20 Episode results for "Flyers"

Animal Week Morning Jokes (12-18-2020)

Chompers

02:58 min | 6 months ago

Animal Week Morning Jokes (12-18-2020)

"Good morning it's time for another episode of choppers your morning and night tooth brushing sharp. This week we are all about animals. Are you ready here. We go get your toothbrush in your mouth and start brushing on the top of your mouth on one side. Three two nine. guess what. It's not knock joke day. Are you ready for your first joke. Here it is knock knock alpaca all pack a suitcase. Because i'm going on vacation. What isn't alpaca. Alpaca is an animal. That's kind of like a mix between a horse. A camel and sheep switzer rushing to the other side of your top teeth. Make sure to brush the whole tooth but don't scrubbed you hard. Alpaca hair is used to make really warm sweaters blankets and ponchos alpacas also make really good pets. Ready for another joke here. We go knock knock who who. I'm an old. That's my line. Now switcher rushing to the bottom of your mouth pick aside and make sure you're reaching all the way to your back teeth. If there was an owl in here you probably wouldn't even know it alls have special feathers and are really big wings that make them super quiet. Flyers owls do. They're flying at night. They're not terminal animals. Nocturnal means they stay up all night long and sleep during the day. Switch you're rushing to the other side of the bottom of your mouth. Keep making those circles around the entire tooth. Here's another joke. Knock knock bunny. Oh nobody important. I'm just going to hop along now. All right pressures. You're all set for the day. It's time for you to get out there and try out your new knock knock jokes. We'll be back tonight with more jokes on choppers have a great day and two. Thanks to our sponsor. Honey nut cheerios. Grownups turn a good morning into a good day with a ball of whole grain. Oats and a touch of real honey when you feed the good inside of you and your kids. You'll see the positivity that spreads beyond breakfast in your home your community and the world make your mornings brighter with honey nut cheerios.

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Jokes Week Morning Animal (1-15-2020)

Chompers

02:26 min | 1 year ago

Jokes Week Morning Animal (1-15-2020)

"Good morning it's time for Jumpers your morning and night tooth brushing show this week. We're all about jokes. Excuse brushing your mouth and start brushing on the top of your mouth on one side. Three to what. You're are you ready for your first joke here. It is knock knock Alpaca. ooh I'll pack a suitcase because I'm going on vacation. What is now packer. Et Al Paca is an animal. That's kind of like a mix between a horse. A camel and a sheet Switzer rushing going to the other side of your top teeth. Make sure to brush the whole tooth. But don't scrub too. Hard Alpaca here is used to make really warm sweaters blankets and ponchos. Alpacas also make really good pets. Ready for another joke here. We go knock knock who who who. I'm an OWL. That's my line now. Switch you're rushing to the bottom of of your mouth pick aside and make sure you're reaching all the way to your back teeth. If there was an owl in here you probably wouldn't even know. No it always have special feathers and a really big wings that make them super quiet. Flyers owls do. They're flying at night each terminal. Animals Nocturnal means. They stay up all night long and sleep. During the day Switzer rushing to the other side of the bottom of your mouth. Keep making those circles around the entire tooth. Here's another joke. Knock Knock Bunny. Oh nobody important. I'm just going to hop along now. All right pressures. You're all set for the day. It's time for you to get out there and try out your new knock knock jokes. We'll be back tonight with more jokes on choppers. Have a great day and through do.

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CBS11 DFW PM NEWS UPDATE MAR 15 2021

CBS11 News Dallas/Fort Worth

01:23 min | 3 months ago

CBS11 DFW PM NEWS UPDATE MAR 15 2021

"Wanted pretty you on kimmel lucina. Thanks for joining us. Police are investigating a deadly shooting at a recording studio in northwest dallas. This happened saturday night. Near mockingbird lane highway one eighty three police say a fight broke out between multiple people. Just before twenty. Nine year old. Freddie sanders was shot. He was taken to the hospital but didn't survive. Police say two men shot at him. Neither of them has been caught. Air traveled appears to be bouncing back since last thursday. Five point two million people have flown and that marks the highest number of flyers in any four day period in almost a year. Tsa says it screen more than one point. Three million people sunday alone elf on shelf. The popular christmas time tradition now has a spring counterpart talking about the peop- on a perch ever heard of that. It's a new kit. For easter. It comes with plush toys and a story book. The idea is that the people keep an eye on kids to make sure that they stay away. Stay well behaved. Rather and then they report their behavior to the easter bunny who determines what kind of gifts might landing their easter basket. A kit costs about twenty dollars on amazon. That's going to do it for the. Cbs eleven news update for the latest news weather and sports anytime just log onto a website. Cbs dfw dot com.

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Philadelphia Cheesed

31 Thoughts: The Podcast

1:08:17 hr | 2 months ago

Philadelphia Cheesed

"Opening day blue jays. Find themselves in the bronx opening up against the new york yankees. Dan schulman in toronto. Hazel may in toronto buck martinez at his home in florida. And are we ever excited to talk. Some blue jays baseball with you elliott. Start the podcast. Today i wanna make a promise to you okay. I'm going to promise to really try hard to pay attention during the podcasts. But it's gonna be tough because the jason yankees are playing right now. It's the season opener amend my office. And i said i was going to turn it off to the podcast and it's a top of the second and i haven't turned oh there's basically just scored their first run all. Yes they have to on one. Swing a base in at a center field for gory. Al who aids. Dan schulman to call your play by play. He is overrated. You don't need buck martinez. You don't need anshuman. You've got elliott and jeff here calling the adage as in the center that stays on the inner half. It didn't break away. It stayed on the inner half. Current goes right back up to middle right up the league of that scoring easy like breaking sticks. It's so funny. You said that. Because i i was gonna watch the game and do the podcasts. Actually have my microphone facing the television. You're going to be great today. This be a high paid attention to. I hope you should ask me really ridiculous questions and see if i actually am paying attention. What's going to happen is after the podcast comes there. You're going to get a bunch of tweets. Like why did hewitt. Elliot said you're gonna be like what is What i didn't see that. what are you talking about. Can't radio yourself if you're not paying attention all right there you go take it yankees one. Nothing jays philadelphia flyers. Let's start there. Oh tough situation tough week a near death experience against the buffalo sabres buyers and then you'd have lost twice. Well that's it like the near death experience earlier on this week and then wednesday they lose the buffalo sabres in spectacular fashion. They blew three-goal leads to the pliers twice this year. But they're not gonna do it again tonight sabres and they're eighteen game winless drought as they beat the flyers in buffalo six to one. I know this story coming out of it is a the buffalo sabres. Eighteen game winless streak is over but isn't the real story. What's happening with the philadelphia flyers. I think so. The one thing. I think that philadelphia is fortunate about here is they have a gm who tends to be patient. Chuck fletcher is the kind of guy. Like sometimes i think when when you've got that elmo emoji of fire going on around you or the dog this is fine emoji going on around you. Sometimes you need someone who can say all right. I'm doing something impulsive acting. I'm showing that i feel. I need to do something and sometimes it's better that you have someone there who says yeah you know. Everything's kinda burning down all around me and that's something valuable. I really liked over there. That's now gone. But i think the worst thing i can do here is overreact and to me. I think this is a case where you need option to now. I'm sure flyers fans and i know because some of them send me direct messages. They want massive fire sale. Right now they want. They want massive changes their furious and they want blood but you know last year philly was kind of the surprise team and this year the disappointment team so the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. And i think when you've kind of ridden that emotional wave in the last two seasons you really have to be smart about the choices you make so i think this is the right time to have kind of a patient guy there i do think philly will make maybe not now but maybe it's at the draft or the summer. I think philly's gonna make one or two major changes pause on that for one second. I want to get back to this idea of major changes. Okay but hearing you talk about the nature of general manager that is calm and doesn't make knee-jerk reactions or just react based on emotions instead of intelligence isn't that what got ron hextall. Fired in the first place. Yes it did but also there. There was something deeper going on there with hextall. It was very clear there was a big divide between hextall and some of the other flyer alumni. That was not just his patients It was also like a personality clash developed and there's a lot of big personalities. They're hextall is a big personality. Paul holmgren is a big personality. Bob clark choice. Still think has a has a big say. They're obviously is an enormous personality. I think that was a factor as much as anything else. Was you know fletcher. I don't think that personality clash their disappointed. Don't get me wrong. But i don't think that there's that added layer to it. I think they're kind of all on side with each other here. So what do you see the flyers doing then and just let me coach it. this way. Closure drew has one more year on his contract. Yup sean career has one more year on his contract. The ops scott lawton's on and expiring deal right now. He's a ufa at season's end. Yeah san himes restricted free agent. Guston's a ufa like go right down the list we can all we can all see it at at cap. Friend gossips and it just hasn't worked. He's no he's he's going to be gone right. So what happens here. Then with the philadelphia flyers okay. I think there's a couple of things first of all this week. One of the biggest stories was carter. Heart yes. I really don't have a problem with this. I know venial can be kind of blunt and people didn't like the language but to me carter. Heart is still a huge part of what they're going to be and for the team to say we're taking a step back here and were having the guy kind of refocus. I don't have a problem with that at all so one of the things that people are kind of talking about. I actually think that's a good plan. There's a few things here number one. I always thought the flyers were going to be a seven three team for the expansion draft seven forwards three d. Now i'm not so sure about that anymore. You know provorov san high myers. Those guys were getting protected for sure. I think if they go out and they get another defenseman. Whether it's like an echo holmer alice or someone else just name your pieces. I think they could potentially be a foreign fourteen. There's two forwards they have to protect one is giroux and one is hayes and other than that. They don't have to protect anybody now. They still could choose to go seven and three. But i'm beginning to wonder if this may have changed their thinking that's one of the things that is kind of being talked about now has phillies said This season's gonna make us change how we attack expansion draft the other thing. I think there is i think at times phillies bastable guys. Like patrick like connect me like when he got benched. They got calls about connecting. I'll get a lot in a sec. But the most interesting thing to me about the flyers is who are they going to decide are their core guys could cherie. Is there for lack of a better. Term patrice bergeron. I can't see him going anywhere. And he's doing a race here at the end of his contract next four point three and so he's got one more year but if you're going to tell me that they would look at their veteran core and say it's time for a change. I don't think anybody's going to have a problem with that. I could see that on the blue line. It's provorov and myers and san heim. But now i wonder like the whole thing. Him being away has kind of exposed they have. And that's why i wonder if it ends up being a four and four situation now because they say need to go out and get another right. Hand shot the And i do think that's a conversation they're having. Are we now a foreign fourteen for expansion. I just gonna ask you about about one player whose name that we've heard off and on at various times he's They're in love with them out of love with them he's top of the line He's going towards the bottom of the lineup. He's always been well one one of the more entertaining players on and off the ice and it really highly skilled guy in someone that can produce and at times falls off. And that's jake for check What's the decision there. There's still term and it's a big ticket. Yeah it's four years left. I don't have a great answer for you on this one at the very least you could see how he's going to be left open in the expansion draft hazing zero or the two guys. They have to protect for the draft. And if you wanna buy them out it's a big ticket like there's one year and it's two years from now where because he's got a five million dollar signing bonus on it it's basically eight million against your cab right. I don't know i. I'll tell you i love war so do i like you know you know that we're going to have this conversation. Could tear into us in a in a zoom call like. I think this team is going to do some big-time surgery. They're not coming back with the same group next year right. The problem is that contract with check contract. That really aren't getting moved right now. Not in a flat cap world. No chance let me ask you one. More thing about the flyers. We saw this week which raised some eyebrows. Probably shouldn't because. I don't think anyone thought he was really gonna claim by anybody. Shangaans despair on waivers. Should we read anything into that. Well first of all. I believe that with gossip spare. They offered him around. And there's been times where gossip. Bears been prominent in trade rumors. I don't think that was a surprise. Don't have email comes out and says we think he's gonna clear he's not saying that to be little gossip spare as a player. He's saying because the flyers have done their research and they know what the market is and isn't for him right. that's what that's about. I think they knew he was gonna clear. I think they know that they can. Trade goes to spare if they're willing to eat money or they're willing to put a sweetener in there. So that's kind of where we are. The thing about gossips bear is. He's pretty blunt and i like that the quote. He had a vote heart last week where he came out and said you know basically were hanging out to dry as a reporter. I'm never going to criticize that. Because i love a guy being that blunt you know one of the things i heard was when this happened. You're kind of okay. What's the reason to not like him is he. Not playing hard and people have told me he's actually played really hard. They challenged them last year to to change some things about what he did. And i heard the reviews on him were pretty positive in terms of he tried to make those changes and he really put in a good effort. So it's not lack of effort. You know one of the things that i do wonder about is like i said he's pretty sharp-tongued. I wondered if something was said internally like between him and someone whether a coach or something that they just didn't like. But you know. I think at the end of the day the fit has just turned out to not work and i think he's been available and everybody kind of knows it was great for him like really great for him who early in his career when he started dave hostile. The way that dave hacksaw us chain gossips. Bear was like he was only in situations where he could shine. Offensive zone starts power. Playtime nothing in his own zone. Wasn't starting there no face off. Sarah like he was never in a position where he was going to look bad when he entered the nhl thing. That i wonder about. Goss's bear is the dave hack stall do such a good job. Shane gossips bear. That our expectations of him were unreasonable. I don't know about that. you know. I rick wilson who is a great defense coach. Rick wells coach a lot of great players. He was brought into philly to deal with their defense. And i remember when he retired. I call them because i liked. I really listening to rick wilson. Talk and i called him. And i asked him at all their guys and i asked him gossips barron. He he paused. He said you know he says i'm only an answer. This question to you on one condition. And i said okay you know what is it and he goes. I don't want it to look like i'm ripping this guy or i don't like this guy and i said okay and he said i just felt i couldn't get through to him. I really tried and for whatever reason we just didn't connect and i don't know what to say about that. I don't wanna put words into rick. Wilson's mouth. I promised but it just sounds to me that the flyers just felt that for whatever reason i guess after axel was gone and the connection was broken and people came back to me on him this year and said he's worked really hard and he's really tried to do it. It's just obviously it hasn't worked now. I do wanna talk about two guys for second. I want to talk about latin. And i want to patrick. I just wonder about nolan. Patrick's future in general in philly. I wonder if it's time. I do think at times they've been asked about him and they've kind of said no. You know right shot center second overall pick you. Don't wanna give up on that too easy by. I wonder if both player and team are beginning to think it's time we'll see where it goes kind. Search something there sure. Is it to. I being too simplistic if i say nolan patrick. Vegas golden knights. Just because of the kelly macrame association from the brandon wheat kings nolan. Patrick went through a went through a wall for kelly. Mcraven like significantly hurt himself to play for the brandon weaklings. I remember that moral cup and red deer oof and he was the best player in the western hockey league playoffs that year for brandon. I don't know maybe it's just too simple align. Maybe yeah it is. It is too simple line. There's no question about that but it doesn't mean you're wrong. People like people they know right hundred percent. The other guy is lot and you mentioned he's a usa. I think they've tried to sign him. I think it's possible that last year when they were talking to winnipeg line that lawton was potentially around that i will say this contracts are hard to do right now especially when you're going through what phillies going through. The bottom line is this. I believe at the flyers think that that guy loves being a flyer And wants to be a flyer. The question is can you get it done. And now because you're in the middle of this terrible streak. Does that mean you say okay. Here's the guy we don't have signed and it's the easiest move we could potentially make 'cause there's a lot of teams out there. Have you told them that. Scott lawton was available for a playoff run. Yeah they're throwing themselves at a guy like him but one thing i do strongly believe jeff is at the flyers. No that that guy loves being a flyer and it means a lot to him and it's always harder to move out guys who really feel part of the team. I just wonder if there is and you get a better sense than me. Is there a barclay goodrow vibe about scott lawton. No offense to barclay goodrow. I think he's got a higher ceiling. But look i'll tell you this if i was toronto i'd be all over that. Here's why i say this all with is the last year you know blake coleman barclay goodrow tampa puts them over the top solidifies. Third line. diani. Gordon is off the races and that becomes worn the stories for tampa. Now everybody's gotta go out and get themselves coleman and a barclay goodrow. Is there that type of feeling around scott lawton in the league like you've seen him play if he's a horse i'm a junior in oshawa. Yeah to yeah. If he's available there's a lot of teams out there. What does this mean for affiliate deadline then for each. Well the one thing. Like i said i think fletcher is going to be careful. I think he's gonna take his time. I do think that they look at it now. Like they have to solve their pro volve partner issue. Long term it's myers isn't it. I think they're looking for another right. Hand shot d. You know who is that guy. Is it david savard. Is there another right. Hand shot the available is it. You know we know there. It's neck home. I don't think they're interested in paying that price. And i know he's a lefty but he can play the right side I don't think they wanna pay the price now. They don't they don't think it's very smart. So you think the philadelphia flyers right now are thinking more about the future than this. You're not saving this season. Then the playoff spot because right now as we record this three points back of the boston bruins and the bruins three games in hand. Why would you do something to save this year. If you're philly it's not smart so they're sellers. I think sellers is a bad way of looking at it. I think they're long. Term thinkers her aches. The long term. Play gary sanchez. Just homered for the yankees to run shy Yet to one thought. Although yankee fans hated gary sanchez tell you what man who the guy that i wanted plan on the jays to home so bad then again i want i want. Everybody was on the market. He reminder real toll on the jays to everybody who was available set them to toronto. Here's my expert baseball analysis. I think the blue jays should go for aaron judge. That's the kind of move. I think that would really improve the team and put people in the crowd. Too good. baseball takes here on you know. Why didn't the geez. Mookie betts. what's wrong with him. And i think what a bunch of idiots they didn't get aaron judge Let's kick off this podcast hockey style Through and thoughts the podcast presented by the gmc. Sierra eighteen four welcome once again to thirty-one thoughts the podcast. Thanks for joining us today We got a lot to to go over and we're going to get some hashtag ask. Thirty one is well. We were all surprised and slash saddened and a hopeful that everyone is okay ended. It turns out all rights Wednesday night elliott's vancouver canucks calgary. Flames game was postponed The day previous adam. Good debt test positive for covid and the and wednesday night they get shutdown. It's been tough for bc all week long from hockey point of view Rockets the western hockey league their entire operation Got shut down as well. what What should we know about what happened in vancouver on wednesday. We don't know much. You're jeff so i'm going to be very careful on thursday. The league announced that the knox they won't resume any practicing before tuesday in the earliest. They'll play any game. Next week is thursday. And we know that the cove list includes adam go debt and travis hammock was added to it. And there's a so you know we still don't know the variant yet at this point in time whether or not it's the original or the new one so i guess here but obviously it's serious enough that they felt that they had to wait. Yes it's the smartest thing to do you know there's also the involvement of the province of british columbia and there's probably nowhere in north america. That's been tougher on it standards than bc. Remember last summer bc was supposed to host one of the vault bubbles in vancouver. But they weren't willing to do with the nhl asked and so it went to edmonson the number one thing we're all hoping for is the best for him you know. He opted out of the bubble last year for family reasons. He has made it very clear. He only wants to plan western canada. I think last year in the off season teams like toronto in philadelphia. To asked about him. he said no. I wanna stay west. We've reported that. Carolina was interested in him. He said again. No i wanna stay west so you know how important it is to him and you know we just hope that he and everybody else involved. Here is okay okay. So that is a As we like to say fluid story the other story that is not fluid but is done. The is the thatcher dempo deal. it's five years five million dollars per season and the vancouver canucks are hoping that they're paying the goaltender they saw in the bubble and they've seen for the better part of this season. I'm a big believer jeff. That if you're gonna bet bet on the people you know and that means either you give them the reward of the contract or you. Don't give them the reward of the contract but you bet on the people that you know and vancouver knows thatcher damko. He's a guy they're going to bet on. You can say okay. He's only played sixty two games. Whatever it is yes. All of this is true but they know him. He's been in their organization. They've seen in practice these seen as work ethic. They know how he is. They know owie isn't people can look at this and they can say well. There's no precedent for this. No there isn't but they have more information on. Dan goldin anyone else. Does you know the the interesting thing about is. There's not a lot of cops the last quarter to arbitration i believe was anton forsberg and that is a case that has nothing to do with this particular case. So they're looking at the whole thing and they're saying what exactly do we have here. I think the team was looking at it. That way and i think the agent was looking at it that way. I think that johri was probably the closest three and a half. So dem cogos arb- this year our next year. Ufa so i'm thinking that if with an aav of five and it's a middle heavy contract most of the cashes in the middle with an a five. The team gave go a bit more than it's worth the next couple of years and gave the as long as it keeps going this way damn go gave the knox a bit of a break in the three. Usa years so they worked on it and they got it done like everybody here compromised. I think it's i think it's a great deal for the player. Twenty five million. And i think it's a good deal for the team like i look at that contract and i think that's a good like if you're going to bet i think it's a good bet because it worked so you've got a goaltender of five million dollars. Give you gotta legit number one. Let me ask you something. You watch the games. Sometimes you're watching like old jimmy valiant videos during shows the boogie. Woogie man what the you watch the games like. Would you bet on goal right now based on what i've seen recently. Yes i mean that. The one of the things that i heard early on about thatcher denko and i don't see any evidence of it now was that there were some in the quote unquote goldie community. Who kept telling me. He's too slow in his crease. Don't see that anymore. No one's talking about that anymore. It's like if you're looking for areas of improvement to where where you're talking about Where you know. That's behind him and he's improving and if you look at you know an assumed steady growth then you say okay. Well that's one criticism that doesn't exist without your demo anymore. Like that's one area that's been completely cleaned up and that goes to your other point of they know this guy and i think that in any position and maybe goalie more than any other position elliott. You really need someone to be honest about themselves. Because if you're honest about yourself and you have a strong work ethic you'll work to improve the areas where you need to are. There are plenty of guys that just want to do the exact same thing every day in practice because it's easy for them and it's comfortable they don't improve but they get through practice and they can look good. They don't work on the most sensitive parts of their game. I don't think he can say that about thatcher down go. That's why i look at this deal. And i say okay. I don't wanna make up my mind about a goaltender until i see him for one hundred games but this one sort of feels difference. I'm still not one hundred percent. Because i still believe in my hundred game rule for netminders but i'll i'll look at this deal and say i understand it both based on the numbers involved and the track record and performance of the goalie again. It is still a gamble because we haven't seen them that long but to meet to save gamble for vancouver jeff. Speaking of goalies sheldon keefe told the media today that the update on freddie as he did have a follow up appointment as we had talked about. feud back. I've i've been given that. He's he's progressing well and this could see the monitor them reassessing next week sheldon just to follow up on that. So so i'm guessing you're not seeing freddie being available for at least another week is gonna join us on. This trip is ready innocent. Been on ice at all during these recent days no he. Hasn't i think what toronto is done. Is they started to look around and see if we have to do this. And at this point in time. I don't think they want to. But if we have to do this who's available. I think one of the guys. They've checked in on his aulmark from buffalo. Who is a ufa just asking buffalo. What you're thinking. And if we have to do i think they'd earlier on they checked on arizona's guys. I wouldn't be surprised if they checked on riddick to like. That's just sensible to me. But i don't know that. But i i've heard that the arizona guys in all marker among the guys they have asked about. There's always been rumors about the mini being involved or are being interested. Rather there's always been rumors elliott about the may police being interested in alexander georgiev with the rangers. And if they start to fall out of it would that be a target of interest for the maple leafs. You think i all. It's a good question. I haven't heard it. I just know that last year like they were never close like the rangers in. I know there's a lot of talk about it. But they just. I heard they were never close so the question then becomes elliott. Now that thatcher dem co has been signed. Elliot's patterson quinn hughes travis. Green clark tanner pearson. Who's next jim. Benning said last week on the week he was going to try to take care of some of some business. Obviously he did that. They got dem done. And i think that really heated up in the last week. I think there have been some conversations with pearson. i'm getting some really mixed messaging on where this is. I think it's going to be height to get it done. I think it's a real the houston pederson. Don't think those started yet. I'm under the impression that vancouver's looking at about fifteen million for the two of them next year. So we'll see where that goes the coaches. I have not heard a thing. I don't know where that is. And and i'll tell you this i believe that you know some teams ownership says. Here's your budget and don't surprise me. Just let me know of your up to anything. Big i think because of vancouver's overall situation right now i do think ownership has a big hand in this stuff has to be run through them. I just think right now. They haven't committed to what they're doing with their coaches yet Okay to the team. That vancouver is supposed to play on wednesday night. The calgary flames. Now you look at the standings and you say oh they're only four points out as we record this podcast buds and they're chasing trawl. Montreal has five games in hand You look at the goal. Differential for the calgary flames and it's ugly dash sixteen. We've been talking a couple years now and the decision sort of always been kicked down the road we've been talking about. When is it the end for this core. Are we there now calgary. Well i think we wait to see how it plays out. But i think we're getting close. I don't think that the flames really have anything necessarily going on right now but i think everybody knows that where we are and if they don't make the playoffs this year they're going to have some big decisions to make. I think people know that. If you wanna call calorie labeling the listen to a lot of things. I just don't get the sense that anything is anywhere close to imminent. How much of a big stick does their cetera. Having all of this now. I think he has a lot like i said. I believe that the only that they were making a coaching change right now was sutter. And that is because of the deep respect and deep connections that people in the organization have to him so they are going to listen to his opinion as we fly around the nhl. I would like to know what is happening. And i think a lot of people do because it seems to be one of the more interesting stories right now. What is happening with the nashville predators. They have rattled off six wins in a row. Tonight it's thursday. They'll play the dallas stars that makes ten to seven or that may be a lost. Don't know dallas is a bizarre team a lot of people this season. We've said before that. It looks like this nashville predators team could be the kingmaker coming trade deadline's high with various themes flying around but then they find themselves in a playoff position win. Six in a row minia pointed out that okay you beat up on detroit's beat up on chicago ticket with a grain of salt but i can do is win the games that are in front of you. What's happening with nashville. I do a hit every thursday nashville on the espn station there. One zero two five and they told me that when i did my hit earlier today That what david paul. He's on there every tuesday and he said basically to reports up in canada. It's pretty quiet right now. And i said you've mentioned specifically by name or just referring to all of us up there and they laughed and they said no he didn't refer to anybody specifically by name. I think that with nashville. It's kind of tied down a bit like my guess. Is that when things weren't going very well for the predators. They didn't mind. All the rumors became is. They didn't think that anyone there should be comfortable. But now that they're making their charge in there in the race and depending on who you like. That could actually be your favourite to make the playoffs that they're trying to turn down the heat a little bit and then a we could make this. Why do we wanna make people uncomfortable so you know. i do. Think that david paul at the poker table. But i also think he's looking at it and saying do i give our team a shot in the play offs. Now if you've finished fourth you likely get tampa right. Yeah maybe you get carolina maybe florida. But you're you're probably thinking tampa a tough man. Fourth in that division is tough. But what i've said to and i do believe this that more than any other season in terms of the business of your organization make the playoffs. How many more tickets to sell for next year not insignificant. The other thing about nashville is the only have a couple of players on expiring contracts. They all the names that we see flying around with. Its whether it's whether it's filip forsberg like they don't have to do any deal. Like no one's outside of michael greenland and eric khawla. No one's walking away like it's not as if they're they're walkway and they're not gonna get an acid in return. These players still have term. They nashville is an interesting spot. There is no gun to anyone's head here David paul doesn't have to do anything. We just assume that. Okay bottoming out. Try to get you know. Try to recoup something come trade deadline time and start to turn this thing over as much appeal. May say he's under pressure to do something i don't think he is. Because he's players have term outside of greenland and hala. That's it but the question is. Do you believe you have the right mix. I don't think that they believe that. They have the right mix. My only question is how much runway do. They still have until they need to make decisions on these players. Like do they have to make a deal by april twelfth. No no do. They have to do anything with coma april. No no no one's gonna walk away here and leave david poile without anything in return outside of those two forwards just mentioned like. They're kind of in an enviable spot. Here you might just say. They're playing with house money in both chicago and columbus into another extent as well dallas is just handing them a playoff spot. If i'm dallas. I'm not making any big decisions on my team this year. They've had a brutal schedule. They've had a covert outbreak. They had that texas heating situation where some of the players. I'd like flooding in their houses and they're competing hard plus also. You've learned that. You've really got a player and jason robertson right. You sure do so. I'm looking at this for dallas. I'm not making any crazy decisions because our guys are playing hard in the middle of what's been a complete nightmare. As a matter of fact. I'm really impressed with how hard they play. They can't win in overtime but they compete. They compete hard like they have every excuse to quit this year and they haven't done it. They do have a hard time scoring goals back to nashville quickly. Though the one thing you always look for silver lining in anything in miserable season they may end up making the playoffs. Good on nashville. And it seems as if we've been waiting even though he's only twenty one years old it feels like we've been waiting for la twelve in and to turn it on and demonstrate. He's a legit top six forward. That can shooting score for how many years i know. It's not a tiny games. But does it feel to you. Like toll ends finally here in my head today. They asked me if he's going to get any calder trophy. Love and i'm a big believer in recent bias. So if he finished his strong. I think that helps them. But you know. I said that he's in my list. But i just don't know how anyone's taking the calder away from capris off right now you mentioned carolina a couple of seconds ago. Let's stay in this division. A fantastic march ten to into curious about them a deadline and they do have an emerging star or. Do we say someone who's already there in. Martin us been an embarrassment of riches for the carolina hurricanes up front for a number of years and now they have another one. This nature's kid elliott is real good. See i don't wanna call him underrated because everybody's calling them underrated and everybody does something. I don't want to do it. I was making his point on hockey central with With sarah souvenir day you can say that every player on carolina is always underrated because they don't get coverage like how many gods stop with a whining about this. Oh my goodness hang on. How many times have you heard. Man jacob slavin's underrated. We've been saying it. For how many years now they get a certain point. Things like slavin's underrated alejos under. It has to stop. doesn't it yes it does have this. Look they're a good team that's it. They can win the stanley cup. This year could yup and they'll be doing with you know you wanna talk about getting called their love do with a rookie. Netminder alex the kovic. My theory on this is if there's one team that comes out of nowhere to make a whopper of a deal. It's carolina for what position could be goal. We've thought all season long looking for another defenseman. And they were. They were not having that to me would be the position. I would circle come trade deadline time. They think that way. The owner likes to be bold right. He does and also. I have to say this. I had someone say to me that the brindamour extension is not as close as it's being portrayed. I also had someone say to me that brindamour the extension. It's not as close as everyone thought last week including myself. It doesn't mean it's not going to happen but apparently it wasn't as close as we all so we'll see. I still think he ends up there. It's just the someone told me to pump the brakes on it. Staying in the central florida panthers as the find themselves as we record this on a three game winning streak second place in the central by way of points. Not percentage and down. Aaron eck blad barkov coming back This weekend that's good news. But the aaron glad injury the the season ending injury is a tough one to swallow. Because this guy like. I don't think he's gonna win the nor i didn't think he was going to win the norris trophy but he was going to be on ballots. Y'all there's no question about that like honestly. I like headman this year. I think he's gonna win it. If everything continues the way it's going but you know act blad mcevoy darnell nurse at blood was definitely up there. It was awful to watch. I'll tell you this i. I just said that carolina could take a swing florida's another team. That could take a swing. You can't replace him but you're having a really good year zito viola. They're also guys who think big right they are and don't you kind of fans if it can get to. That spot are really good series against tampa. Oh we talked about this last week. We we've been waiting for this series forever and you just don't want it to be a squash match tayla. One of the big stories of this season is in florida. Not just the team for carter verhaeghe. Yup and i know a lot of it. Is the alexander. Barkov fact cher. He's made a lot of players wealthy and made a lot of players. Look good. he has that magic wand. You gotta be good to play with good players you do and the one thing that i come back to with carter for hagi. I remember talking to one scout about him. I can't remember what stop for. Hagi was on and he said look. The skating is always gonna hold this guy back and i said well what was he like when he was younger and he said i can remember our crew. We had skater's listed ab and see a if you're a elite level skater if you're a good skater and see if you're a poor skater. We had carter hagey minus. That's how bad the skating was. This guy has improved his game immensely from team to team team. He finds a home in florida. Yes barkov helps. But this guy's improved himself tremendous miro. Brian burke would always talk about blake wheeler and how much he always the most improved player in the nhl hands down period. Carter verhaeghe is probably the most improved player in the nhl. The season isn't he. Yeah i i would say so. And don't forget like this was a guy wasn't qualified last year. It's insane by a team that generally makes very good decisions. Got to hand it to them. East put in the work of sticking florida some news. There was some thought or some feeling slash belief that spencer night for traffic boston college would considering the nature of the sergei bobrovsky contract ahead of them. Choose to stay with boston. College for four years go Go over the free agency route and choose. His team didn't do that. He comes out signs of entry level. Deal with the florida. Panthers and is now a member of the cats. Your thoughts on spencer nights decision. One of the things i had heard was that the panthers said to them. Look yes. we have seventy million dollars goal tender here but look. Who's playing by chris trigger. Yes because he won that yeah. Chris triggers had an incredible year in the florida. Goal is a major reason that they've been off to the start. They've been off to yup and when he deserved to play he played. You know sometimes team say you know we're invested in this school. He were paying a ton of money. He gets the net. The panthers haven't really done that. broncos played well at times and he's played dreamers played well at a lot of times and he gets to play and i think they were able to take that tonight and say look. You're going to be on an entry level contract for three years. certainly there's bonuses involved by. You're going to get a chance to play. And i think he saw that. Now we'll see what they do with trigger and goal We'll see the kind of moves they have to make i. I have no doubt they will get offers on him if not already. I have no doubt they will have a decision to make at some point in time. Triggers a ufa. But i'm not surprised that night decided to go pro. He's got two more years before he can even entertain being an unrestricted free agent. And he's simply ready to play. So i can recall because it a couple of months ago. I mentioned this idea on despite The idea of why wouldn't spend somebody. Just feel play the four years and then chooses team and i had a goalie coach from another team. Get in touch with me and said I heard your taken. It's a bad one. And here's why he said what you need to consider is the development of the goaltender. Shirley's the goalie in front of him with the million year contract. We all understand that. But if you're handling spencer night right now a couple of things one you can't leave him At the college level to face college level shots and situations or he'll stagnate a sensitive position. He needs to take that next step. He needs pro situations and pro shots. And so there's nothing wrong with having a goalie. Play in the american hockey league for two or three years. That takes the brost contract down a couple more seasons and then you have a situation even then when he's ready to play in the nhl where he needs the fight for a position. You never wanna hand anybody anything especially a goaltender. Let them fight for it. But he said the one thing you missed on in your hot take. Merrick was the development of the goalie. You're just thinking oh freedom and choose my team forgetting the fact that what's he going to be like after four years of the same quality of shot and environment couple of other players coming while cam york for the philadelphia flyers. Alex new tough one for bbc the other day they lose alex. You know the other thing here and one case heard it in his jake sanderson from north dakota. Who was the first round pick in ottawa. Last it doesn't look like ottawa's had a really good week Jacob bernard docker. He signed with the sanders. Shane pinto he signed with the sanders. Both of those guys left north dakota to join the sanders now. The one guy who has an is jake sanderson and you know. He's only played one year. So i don't think that's a big deal but one of the things i heard about sanderson wise. You know. there's a lot of players who looked at this year and said i was kinda robbed of a year and i think anybody. Who's that each understands. What they're talking about her know kids high school kids university kids because of covert they lost a year of their regular college experience. And i think one of the things that sanderson and i don't think he's the only one. But i think one of the things that kind of thought about wise you know bernard docker. He'd played already at north dakota for this was his third year. Pinto had already played at nor kota. This was his second year. Although unfortunately for pinto last year he didn't get a chance to play for the nc double a.'s. Because the season ended early and this year they got knocked out you know. At least he had some of the college experience. And from what i heard and i haven't seen the contract. Is we talk about this. I heard pinto got a good bonus. So that's something. Ottawa did to help convince them. The other thing here about sanderson is this year was his first year. He's never had the full college experience yet. And i totally understand that if you know you want another opportunity to go and see what life is like maybe closer to normal as a guy who loves his. Four years in university of western. I'm all for that. And nobody has to panic here. They still got his rights for three more years. The kid won't be nineteen in july. I look at it as no panic. And i don't see why anybody has to worry about this decision. I totally understand it. Give it thought on the boston. Bruins 'cause they got a hot take on them well. I just think they're going to wait to see what to harass situation. As rask can't play. Do they take a run or do they say not. Our year now may take care. What's your take hot juicy. So we all know. We've seen bruce cassidy talk about this and openly lobby for more goalscoring with his squad You know. I cheer for the story. Yes whatever the best story is okay. So here's what i want you to do. Cam nealy comes out of retirement. Oh that'd be that'd be fantastic. Add the old up put in the pocket in between the defenseman skates charging over them The signature cam nealy move. No just work with me on this making his return to the boston. Bruins to fill the nets. Phil kessel of story. Well that'd be the best story at hockey right now. Look the bruins have impacts. Arizona needs picks the bruins scoring. Arizona's got phil kessel and arizona december. First of this year. I'm just putting it out. The castle got some term. Sure at six point eight. Yeah that that's the second year that the issue today. I know it depends on what you can do at david. Krejci and what's happening with. Jacob ras can all these things i just want that idea out there in the universe right now somewhere in boston and somebody crashed into a traffic circle. Someone in the bruins organization right now is swearing at me Not exactly surprise. You ever thought on the new york rangers right now. Is this for the playoffs. Legit what do we make the rangers. Right now to be honest jeff. I think we need some more pushes for the play offs rate. We don't have enough of the canadian division. The math isn't good for anyone. Who's out of the top four yup. No we talked about the central. There's kind of that three or four team battle for fourth between chicago. Dallas columbus and nashville in the west. We've got a weird playoff race that we didn't really expect was saint louis arizona instill l. a. Battling to get into it. You left the team out there. Hold on you. Want to count out. San jose i just. I don't know what to make them either but okay put them in. Because i like racist right and although they've basically admitted they're kind of waving the white flag but you know they're there and then in the other division the eased you've got you know. We talked about boston philly and you'll the rangers. It's clear to me that the goalie is legit disturbing. Is there guy yup. And they're the only team with a goal differential that good. that's not in the playoffs. Yes now some of that is philly like they've blown up philly a couple of times and i guess there plus fourteen in those games savannah. Jayde has just feasted on the philadelphia flyers. Yes i just wonder if they gave away too many points early. But i like the race right and i do think the rangers are you know like i said i. We've talked about their interest in eichel. I think there are team to watch in the sense. I i think over the next few months they could do something. Really interesting. the holes. Abandon jed thing also fascinating because now like a couple months ago i think they were really even a couple of weeks ago. I think they were kind of really worried what they had there and now maybe they're feeling a little bit better. It's it's hard to say. But i just worry gave up too many points although i want playoff races. That's what i want i want. I want playoff races quick. Oh back to san jose real quick. Sure the best moment of the week to reform us eric. Carlson with the apple. All right eric. Is that the best office game. You've ever had two goals in essentially a hat trick when the game winner in the now not even close. I have very mixed feelings about that. And they're not directed at carlson. Okay i mean. The thing was funny when i saw it. I was like okay. That's that's unusual. And that's different. And he had some good comic timing. What i didn't like was the pile on on the reporter that came after. Oh no one liked that. No no no no no. I ain't no that's gross. First of all like i'm no better than any other reporter has good questions. I've asked bad questions. But you know what i didn't like about that. Is that some of the people who were dunking on that. Reporter are people who say aw people are really mean to each other on social and don't you consider people's mental health. Yeah and then they just dunked on this guy. I don't even know who it was. So that's my whole issue with things like that is initially. It's like holy cow. That's funny and then it becomes. Oh everybody has to re tweet it with a comment that twists the knife of a little bit more. It's late at night. We all ask bad questions. Zoom which makes it even and when you ask convoluted questions on zoom. It only makes a situation worse so who knows i. I don't know what happened. Maybe the guy was just throwing it out there because it was late at night and whatever. It wasn't a good question. But like i've asked terrible questions. So here's my thing. Jeff like it just turns into a pile on yes. Here's my thing about dumb questions. Sometimes you get great answers out of them. You just have to hang on. Hang on hold on a second year. I'm going somewhere with this. I'm not. I'm not saying that was a quote unquote dumb question. But there is value in asking colombo-style a question or playing goofy janitor to try to get something out of someone like just because it doesn't fit. The model of every reporter has to every single hockey players biography. Chapter and verse You know doesn't make it a stupid question. Sometimes some of the best conversations and some of the best answers come from the tiniest maybe most ridiculous questions or conversations that you can have. I have no problem that question out there at all. I would rather hear that one and the answer that it may get as opposed to you. Know how crucial is it to have gone for four on the power play. I think that's so true. And i'll tell you something else. When i i started out someone said to me i don't ever want to hear you say talk about a question. Talk about this talk about that another reporter and for the life of me. I can't remember why said that is the stupidest advice ever that is somebody who just is concerned with the look as opposed to the interview and i said what do you mean by that. And he said sunday. You'll see and i remember being a press conference once. I think it was a gulf wanted. The canadian open and someone said asked a question and the golfer said. I don't understand what you mean by that question because there are questioning there and then the guy was flustered and he said just talk about. This guy gave a great answer and the person said to me. Actually i said oh. My god like that's exactly what that person was talking about. So you're right. Sometimes i think we all let's get caught up in the style of how we asked something and instead of our goal is to get the best answer but again i didn't like that thing because it turned into a pile on on someone and again it's it's my whole thing with the with the. Let's talk that makes me crazy. Sometimes some of the people. I always see tweeting. You know bell. Let's talk are the same people who pile on the other. Three hundred and sixty four days of the year so it did annoy me. I have to tell you one final thought on that other side. We'll do some hashtag. Ask thirty one's reporters that i know i'm always sensitive to it as well but one conversation with one person i greatly respect turned me around on it. I was always hesitant my entire career to ask the. How do you feel question. The how do you feel right now. How does this make you feel. I was until i had a conversation. Once i was doing side. I can't remember where and shirali jack pulled me. Aside shirley's longtime producer hockey night pulled me aside and said you know. I know you guys don't like asking that question but sometimes it's the right question to ask. I know you. I know you feel dumb asking it but sometimes that's the most important thing at that time you got to swallow your own ego. Swallow your ego and ask the question. That's the right one sometimes. Be how do you feel right now. Question is the best question. I agree with that. And i think i don't think he ever told me that. But he's right and the reason is it's again we get caught looking at our own navels. We worry that people are gonna criticize us for not asking the right style of question and as i've gotten older i've just learned that that is stupid and if someone doesn't like it too bad if it works all right there you go Other side quick pause Ask thirty one. Your thoughts next on thirty one can't okay. Welcome back to the podcast. When get right to your twitter questions at hashtag ask thirty one elliott. This one comes to us from plast. And i hope i'm pronouncing that right. I suspect i'm not any good book recommendations regarding russian players defecting to the nhl. so yes. and i'm turning to my look at look at my bookshelf trying to because i never want to get a title wrong. Breakaway by talpet. Ski is an excellent one. And the other one i'd recommend is it's a bit of the reverse. It's behind the red line by todd hardy. Who was one of the first north american players to spend a year in russia at least in a recent generation. So those are the two i would recommend to you. I'd also recommend if you wanna watch something. Sports net did a great piece with jerry. Mehan and don lewis above. Defection of alex mogilny. It was a thirty minute special. It was excellent. that's produced by jeremy mcelhinney. By the way you can find that dock in our show notes One thing. I do want to mention for this question as well and it's coming out. Think at the end of this year so late. Twenty twenty one Vashem neta manzke. Who's vaslav lansky son Is putting out a documentary about. His dad called big ned. You can see the trailer and information on it. Add big ned film dot com and something the last time i was dna with vast she. That i didn't know elliott. Is you went to school with him. You you went to school with vaslav. Nancy son for a year yes for a year. he was when when vast love played for the trump. Toro's vasic went to bayview glen private school with me That's fantastic not surprisingly. We went skating one day and he was the best skater in the class. I know shocking. His dad was a stud So glad that he made it to the to. The hockey hall of fame can still remember vaslav. Ski and richard farda coming over to play with the toro's here's an interesting quite a philosophical one. This from kobe hockey media types seem to spend a lot of time talking about how they would change. The sport sometimes drastically brackets looking at you merrick. Hockey is so great. Why do we need to change everything about it. But the parks in the. That's a great question. I wonder let me ask you this. I don't know maybe people on twitter share this with me is any specifically canadian thing to always want to change this game or or worry about this game. No i think you see it all the time and every sports i i remember like just some of the guys i know who cover other games. You think that everything is like endemic to your game. No the same complaints happen about the same sport. Every sport complaints about the refereeing umpiring every sport complains about the way it's played is good or bad for all the love inside the nba gatz. It's great shaw barkley. O'neal are very open about the fact. They hate the way the nba is played now. Major league baseball's going through a big problem right now with the three true outcomes strikeout home run balls and player down and they're concerned about it so i think it's only natural nitpick at your game the only sport right now. That doesn't really have problems the nfl and because it's just too big for all its problems. You can talk about all the it has. They did billions and television. This comes to us from at t. H three underscore. Well you get the you. Get the gist this. Why do you always go to bought farms. Like where are you going to. These can't be about firm because again this. If it is about farm i want. This bought farm the tweet us every single week. Because there's good questions involved in this bought firm is hockey. Bought farm is awesome With teams stressing possession in three on three overtime you get long stretches of circling back etc. Should the league introduced a shot clock and or over him back rule of the nba to encourage shots and possession. Changes begin changing the game. There's one changing the game. And i i really think right now. We're going through all this conversation about officiating. Why give them more to worry about From an entertainment point of view originally the the three hundred overtime was just. It was sprints up and down up coach's legislative the fun out of it. Well that was zero. Remember how we kept saying. Great coaches can't get their hooks into it. Oh yes they can now. They have their hooks into it. And if you don't have the perfect shot it's too risky. We can't risk the odd man rush the other way let's just regroup regroup regroup. Let me ask you a question here okay. 'cause i'm willing to consider the possibility of this if you send it back the other way. What's the penalty. What do you mean if you send it back the other way if you pass it back over you over the red line or something. What's the infraction. If you're conservative change of possession if you're more radical penalty shot. I'm just making this up off top. Well that's the thing i wanna know. What would you do like to me blowing it dead in the face off. That doesn't solve your problem. Slowing the game down. So what are you doing. Essentially what this bought farm getting at is you want to get it back to the rid. The origins of the three on three where it was just five minutes of sprints. How do we get there. Essentially is is essentially. What we're asking. I don't i don't know how we get there. But what is the answer. Well i mean penalty shot would do it right for over back. I would love to be in the gm meetings when that gets proposed. Okay this is what we're thinking guys. If you pass the puck back over the red line after you've gained the blue line hanley's shot and there has to be a camera. What one more about changing the rules and we'll get out of here and let people have the rest of their weekend without listening to us to bozos the seems to us from byron. I know the oh won't be talking about it but this call. The rulebook situation is hampered by the two minute penalty. Do you feel there is any appetite or do you have an appetite to change penalty length. One minute minors to minors. Three minute my overtime. No just no just in any situation don't know so it has to be other a two five ten and that's it or penalty shot. Why well i think the thinking is that there are some calls that don't rise to the level of a full two minute power play but as an infraction enough that something should be called but two minutes is too stiff. I'm just saying i'm just no. I'm following the logic ending the logic the logic is terrible and here's why the logic is terrible. Yeah if we're all complaining here. There's too much interference and there's too many penalties not being called. Why give people incentive to commit more penalties. Here's what i think the thinking is that i'll get i'll give you an actual game application for it. If you're off to the side of the net wide open net and someone passes you the puck and the other team's defensemen comes out of nowhere slashes you on the wrist. Before you can tap the puck into the net what's the call slashing two minutes. Do you not think that that slash is different than a slash that happens in the neutral zone on a rush almo for the first time. I wish we were televising. This podcast so people could see the look on my face right if everybody is complaining about judgment calls why are we adding judgment to the rule book. We better bought farm now is not from from. That's from byron. Bought farm was the other one. Okay barnum's ceo robot for jeff before we leave. I have to ask you. Are you a zillow versus kong guy. I'm going tonight with the kids driving. Oh that's awesome. We've actually been talking about that. We wanna do that. So i love godzilla same. My parents and i was a kid. They bought me like a two foot. Tall godzilla which my favorite toy. So i was always a big godzilla. Guy watched all the movies this morning before we did the podcast i re watched the original one thousand nine hundred sixty three battle on mount fuji between godzilla and cau- and godzilla was kicking the crap out of con- i never knew this button. Electrical storm came and these scientists were watching it. 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190: Philadelphia Hockey Beyond the Flyers - With Alan Bass

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190: Philadelphia Hockey Beyond the Flyers - With Alan Bass

"If doctors told us that we've made a breakthrough on covid nineteen. we would rejoice. We'd feel hope that we could live our lives again. Get back to work back to doing what we want. While masks are ticket that freedom we can help protect others and save lives by covering our noses and mouths which is how the virus mainly spreads. Until there's a vaccine grabbed the breakthrough. That's already here when we're out it's masks on a message to help keep you safe frontier by the ad council the original six a term. Well known to hockey historians the montreal canadians. Toronto maple leafs boston. Bruins new york rangers detroit red wings and chicago blackhawks. All captured the attention of sports fans throughout north america. Well i was in the record business years ago. A friend of mine and i were having a drink to the new york city and he said look. I got an extra ticket to the garden tonight. the rangers are playing montreal. And i said what's that all about and he said well. It's the hockey league which to mass yoko. Everything else do that night. So we went to the old guard. And i fell in love with the game. Instantaneously is without question. Great a spectator sport. I had ever seen the buildings or foam. They'd been full for years. And years and the competition between the six teams who was absolutely at its highest writing that popularity. The time had come to enlarge the sixteen league. I heard that the national hockey was expanding from six to twelve teams. I thought that it would be great. To apply. for a franchise. Ed snider who was working with the philadelphia eagles at the time thought the city of brotherly love with fall for hockey just like he did. But other cities were applying and philadelphia's his in hockey was not good all the other applicants for the six franchises were from cities that had pretty successful minor league hockey operations for for a number of years toward off was the only one that hadn't they had seven or eight minor league teams that it failed or been one quickly aborted attempt in the thirties to have it. Nhl team so there was no history of philadelphia really being an effort at all. However ed snider along with bill putnam and others persisted and on february ninth nineteen sixty six. Their hard work was rewarded. This is the year of the great expansion for the first time. The league will be composed of tall teams. Clarence campbell presider ads. The teams entered the league the philadelphia flyers minnesota north stars. La kings pittsburgh penguins saint louis blues and the california seals. Welcome to good seats still available. A curious little podcast devoted to exploring what used to be in professional sports years. Your host. Tim hanlin greeting sports. Fans how are you. Tim inland here reporting for duty each and every week as we do here on good seats still available. Yes the curious little podcast that is devoted to what used to be in professional sports. Thanks for coming by hope. You're having a good week. I can imagine the challenges that you're going through. We're all going through them on various levels But i'm glad you're taking a few moments to Self care shall we say and Enjoy a little bit of respite from all of those Ills of what's going on in the world around us to revel in some fun memories about some aspect of sports that for whatever reasons we've just forgotten or has been swept away by history. This week is no exception and we skate into the wonderful sport of ice hockey. Once again and our guests this week allen bass takes us specifically in the realm of that sport to the great city of brotherly love. Yes philadelphia and we're gonna talk about the hockey history of that city of course perhaps accentuated by that clip that you just heard from a an we. Two thousand seven anniversary documentary sash film commemorating the fortieth anniversary of the philadelphia flyers. Yes as you know by now longtime listener to this podcast will know of course That the flyers were part of six. Count him Franchises join the national hockey league in nineteen sixty seven. The great expansion those Longest time listeners will know that our very first episode on this little show almost four years ago now with our old pal mark gretch mill was devoted to one of those six teams. The california golden seals and i've had a few other conversations. Steve courier as well with his great book about the seals but indeed until that time the quote unquote original six Not really actually the original six in there some episodes devote to that too by all means. Check those out Was essentially whatever was called a known at the time. The the hey agra fee if you will of what was the sixteenth of the nhl at that time doubled literally doubled in size dramatic expansionary thing and perhaps one of the most successful longest lasting franchises and brands. I want to say most immediately impactful but certainly made quite a statement to fairly early on for a bunch of different reasons. We'll get into the conversation with alan. Were the philadelphia flyers. Ed snider is the guy you hear quoted in that clip. And he was largely the man responsible was his idea. He got the The impetus The the The notion if you will do it by going to see a bruins game One day he was at the time working for the philadelphia eagles. The nfl and she could tell he had some entertainment experience and whatnot and he was bitten by the National hockey league bug. I guess at the old garden watching the rangers and the bruins and an essence made it his his thing to bring the nhl the top tier to philadelphia but also as you mentioned that clip the history of hockey and philadelphia. I probably not so negative. Is that as that little announcer. A verbiage they're kind of Maybe suggested and alan bassus here He the author of professional hockey in philadelphia. A history published by our friends at mcfarland to kind of fill in the blanks of the history that preceded the philadelphia flyers arrival in nineteen sixty seven as well as their brand new built from scratch. Arena called the spectrum. No longer with us as well either but certainly part of the stories. We'll hear from allen in a few moments but as as he and i will discuss The history of of hockey in philadelphia is quite rich. Yes a lot of it. Minor league stuff but They were A teams like the ramblers of the late fifties and the early sixties There were the rockets and the falcons which rumble around the ahl in the Then eastern amateur hockey league there were of course. Well maybe not of course i. It's probably lost a bunch of folks. There actually wasn't nhl team in philadelphia before the flyers. Yes they were the one year. Wonder i don't know if they were really a wonder known as the quakers from nineteen while the nineteen thirty thirty one season of the. Nhl's quakers relocated from phil from pittsburgh. Actually we'll talk about that story but suffice to say they were perhaps one of the worst. Nhl franchises of all time. Let's just leave it at that. Get an all the color and the commentary about that in a moment. But it's lost on a lot of hockey fans philadelphia to that actually might not know that the nhl one of its earliest franchises was actually in philadelphia albeit for only one year. 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A sense of how you why pro hockey and why of philadelphia and why the the The the interest in digging deep into into that story like what's your personal story a relationship to to both of those things. So i was born in philadelphia. Grew up just across the river in new jersey hence the devotion to philadelphia of course and as far as hockey like like many kids I was introduced to the sport from my dad. When i was a little kid and He took me to a flyers game and fell love with the sport instantly. as i got older i got into writing a little bit as a side. Hobby and of course merged the two loves together That's how i started writing for outlets like the hockey news magazine and whatnot And then i just developed a very deep interest in the history of the game Most of the time at the nhl level. but then as i started to do little more research As i wrote my first book which was on a nhl expansion in nineteen sixty seven. I got a little bit into the history of hockey in philadelphia. Which when way further back than i had realized at the time and as i chatted with friends and colleagues are a lot of them even some even. Some in the media weren't even aware of how far back that went. And i thought well if people in the media are aware of it and they cover the flyers for a living. This is something that philadelphia hockey fans are gonna wanna know about For sure i did and so. That's kind of what started the process of research for this book of. What would eventually became this book while i mean. Obviously that's that's important right in this sort of compensation right because the flyers were part of this great expansion sixty seven and i suspect. You're you're around. When were you introduced to two flyers hockey like roughly circa. I was introduced. The first game. I was brought to was the first season at the then called core state center which was nineteen ninety six. I was a little kid and it was a brand new building and That's that's was my introduction to the modern version of the team. And then of course as i became more of a fan as i got older i started learning more about the history of the flyers past all the all his stories from the from the sixties and the seventies and everything from there. And you know just kind of delve deeper and deeper as time progressed. And i'm guessing that you sort of went back you. You came to a hard stop in nineteen sixty seven with this great this great expansion. That as we've gone into an alum number different conversations especially around the california slash oakland slash golden seals. Right which report sixteen Extravagance right which was. I guess as you probably discovered right Especially in relation to other pro sports almost behind the times and or overdue right given the more rapid expansions and or challenger leagues. We're popping up around other sports right this. This was a league at least until the time that was for many many years sort of still stuck in their quote unquote. Now the store original six mode right until the tail end of the sixties which to me looking back seems just like a big time head scratchers to why it took so long to recognize. That hockey could be much more than just a eastern eastern slash mid kind of thing and only six teams at that absolutely in fact one of the running jokes and the time period was that they were called the regional hockey league because they refused to expand pass their sixteen teams Despite the fact that there was great interest from all around the united states there was interest from other cities in canada and the owners of the nhl at that point were just very content with there being big fish in a small pond and their revenues refine odd pretty much controlled the players as everyone. Who's done research on. You know the players association history would know so you know they had a really nice the boys club and it really just a matter of. They had maxed out the revenues at some point. The league was selling to between ninety five. One hundred percent capacity depending on the metric. You believe and they needed a new form of revenue and so they started reaching out to a television network executives and they were pretty much laughed out of the room. You know the these executives were saying well. You guys have nobody in the bay area in california. You have nobody in los angeles. You've got nobody in the middle of the country safer detroit Know what why would we be interested in that one executive even suggested to them at the western hockey league had a better chance of getting a tv deal than they did and it kind of stunned. The nhl owners and really put them in their place and made them think much deeper about you. Know how do we expand this league. I how do we make it a true national league. And that's where the first conversations the for her serious conversations of expansion really started. I mean it wasn't until probably nineteen sixty four nineteen sixty five the league at least considered doing it and then of course everything moved pretty quickly after that you were not using his provincial. Right with p. right. I mean in terms of the the all boys club and and and and sort of And look at in terms of the names right even even after the expansion stuff. They weren't sort of geographical Directional definitions. Right there were these smites and the the norris's right and all these sort of right very sort of old time crusty you know cigar chomping kind of you know but but i look and sixty seven right. Obviously you were not part of the The picture on this This great little planet of ours at that time. But but i suspect as you went back and sort of delved into sort of that expansion in the reasons the rationales for it right a lot of it being geographical and television and other revenue streams. And that kind of stuff. I begin a sense of how you discovered or open up. shall we say the pandora's box of The the history of of hockey and philadelphia professional semi pro. Whatever before that. Because i think a lot of people in today's generation today's hockey fan. Kind of think that philadelphia. Kinda just you know. It was sort a A white hot comet that landed a with a a a major imprint into the into the earth's surface. They are in metro philly in sixty seven which obviously is not the case right and and and let me start on that with you. Made a comment about the placement of the six new teams nine sixty seven and one of the interesting things as i did. The research for my first book was the reasons behind why each of those teams got placed and for most of them had nothing to do with married or ownership group. It was very political as one might expect. A los angeles was pretty much guaranteed a team because they had to team in los angeles to satisfy the network executives. They had to put a team in the bay area. That's where oakland came from. Saint louis only got a team because one of the big shots in the nhl in our own the narcissism the words is owned the saint louis arena and they wanted to. they wanted to get rid of it But they didn't have a buyer so they placed team in saint louis contingent on whatever owner eventually applied for that team within purchase the arena from them so essentially. They traded their votes for a for expansion in exchange for guaranteeing that a team would be put. Saint louis they'd granted a team to saint louis before there was even a potential owner incite. Which is a pretty big risk. On their part in the first place worked out for them of course and philadelphia for example they were not supposed to be the last team chosen. Baltimore was really supposed to be the last team chosen along with pittsburgh to be in the eastern division or in the eastern segment of the expansion division They're only reason they ended up going with phillies. Because they were planning to build a brand new arena that was gonna hold more seats than baltimore's arena and there's even a quote in the original meetings. Where philadelphia was pitching their their potential Hockey franchise to the board of governors One of the guys slammed his hand on the table instead. Philadelphia's allows the hockey town. You know why would we want them in our league and it was that quote that made me think that's interesting because i know there was some history of hockey but if it was so lousy why would even take that chance no matter how big the arena was. And that's kind of what set me on the path towards digging a little deeper into it. Because the ed snider is and jerry wolman. Bill putnam who started the flyers. They did almost no market research in terms of the successor failures of hockey teams before nineteen sixty seven. And that's a good thing. Because if they had they probably wouldn't have taken that risk so again. It worked out in the end for them for philadelphia. But that's kind of what triggered me to say. Well let's look a little deeper these teams. They couldn't have all been failures. That just doesn't make sense. You know philadelphia took to hockey pretty quickly and that doesn't come out of nowhere and so my desire was to really go back and figure out where the love of hockey came from it. It had to come from somewhere in the past and that was really my ultimate goal in writing this current book on the history of professional hockey in philadelphia to find the start of the game How where did the roots come from. How did it. I find it's way to philadelphia and then from there you know. They're obviously going to be teams. That did well in teams that failed. What were the differences between the two. What were the similarities between what caused the team to be successful versus. Not was it just wins. Was it something else. That's really where my interest came from. That's where it stemmed from an. That's how i really frame. The book tells a story about each team In each chapter and really delve into widely succeeded or why they failed ultimately in telling the story of why philadelphia's such a big hockey town now before we dial it back. I want to sort of stick on sixty seven for a second because i. I'm always curious about this building called the spectrum which chubb I'm wondering In your investigation of the flyers being partly the great expansion. How i think. I kind of know the answer to this but i want to hear it from you more directly. How much of this was the spectrum looking for stuff to fill versus the desire for a hockey team and oak conveniently. Here's a new arena. That we can actually finally get a hockey team to know the. The building was specifically built for the hockey team. Part of the proposal That the philadelphia hockey group made to the nhl board of governors was. We will build this brand new arena for this hockey team So it was so filling the arena with other events and you know the spectrum obviously became one of the one of the you know in terms of the number of events at held one of the biggest arenas in the country at that time. I mean it was way ahead of its time in terms of the number of concerts in the number varies events. I mean that building was full most nights out of the year but that was that was really a a side thing. The the hockey team was the main tenant and it was always going to be the main tenant spectrum. It just so happened that you know when you only use it for forty one nights a year you had a three hundred some other nights that you could fill it with in batch where that other part of the business came from So the spectrum came with the hockey team as as part of the package and then from there it evolved and developed into what eventually became so. I'm sorry so. I'm sorry to be ignorant on philly sports so pipe down all you philly fans so the seventy sixers were not necessarily part of the original mix around the arena. They were kind of a second component to this versus the flyers being the first right in the in building the arena or at least planning to build the arena. They understood the potential for they understood that the sixers probably could've used a new home and they might be. They might be willing to be a tenants in the building They understood what the potential was for the building. Obviously when you build an arena that holds seventeen thousand seats or whatever it was at the time You have to be able to fill it more than forty nights year. So they didn't have that in the back of backs of their mind. But the flyers were the premier tenant in that building. Everything else came just after it. Yeah that's that's interesting. Because and that's that's sort of makes sense because in essence it becomes. I mean the the fact that expansion was you know in the mixing bowl right That that obviously becomes the impetus right where you can start something brand new from from whole cloth so to speak versus just being a new venue for currently existing team which is the case the sixers. But yeah you know when you're doing market development of course and you're looking at You know a potential for dates and revenue streams. And all that kind of stuff. Of course you you know you have a ready made Additional franchise in there but to dome asylum with the advent of the flyers are frankly sweeten it and it sounds like that philly kind of just got in to that mixture snyder. Being kind of the the the main stir that drink right by the by the end of it for sure at the beginning insider was always the one in charge of what was then called philadelphia. Hockey club inc. He was partnered with jerry. Wolman who owned the eagles at the time. was a very famous contractor in the region. I was building a major project. eventually became the hancock center in chicago. Woman was well known he had the he had the fame to help. Push the project forward. Ed snider was in charge of the project. From the very beginning he had worked with jerry at the eagles. Ed snider was instrumental in getting veteran. Stadium built in philadelphia so he had done this before he had the experience to really get this kind of stuff off the ground by the end by the time that the nhl had granted the team to philadelphia by the time that philadelphia had to pay for the franchise. jerry woman had had left the the group he had a lot of financial problems stemming from the handcock project in chicago so ed snider really took over that bid. Along with the bill putnam. Who's the president of the team for many years And ed was the one that really put together the financing and mortgage his entire life to make that payment. in fact. There's there's an interesting story or story where You know there were the philadelphia. Group was running around the day of to get their cash together and to get their check together for the nhl and the nhl kind of had an inkling that there was a chance philadelphia. Wasn't going to be able to pay for it. And so they had named as the first alternate a long story. Short i would. I would direct of course to the book to read the story in full but when they finally got the check and they ran into into the hotel to give the check to the nhl. The baltimore group was standing just outside the door where the grin on their face holding their check fully expecting that they'd have a team by the end of the day and then the philadelphia guys handed their check in left. End the flyers officially report. So it's it's it's really came right down to the wire. I mean there was so much drama in that ownership group in terms of paying the team getting the spectrum built. Obviously you had the roof flowing in that first year there was so much drama in those first few months in the first couple of years. And it's a fascinating story back on now that we know how the story ends It really is fascinating in quite hilarious points. Why do you think. Snyder was like so smitten. With hockey in the first place for the arena versus other things or other as he was part of. I i if i have this right. He was part of the eagles organization. Right of time right right. He was the vice president of the eagles. He was essentially running the day to day of the eagles while woman was doing his construction projects. Ed was just a a text book entrepreneur. He had just extraordinary ambition. He was he was just like jerry. Wolman the two had such great ambition to had such great visions for what they could do together and they were completely willing to take crazy financial risks young and dumb kind of thing. It they were. They were in their thirties at the time so You know you mess up. You got plenty years to make it back up so ed just liked looking for opportunities and then just going for it. Just coincidentally in his work with the eagles in his work running the company in years before that which is a whole nother story. He had been introduced to hockey by some colleagues. Who had said you know. Let's go to a hockey game tonight. And said i don't know what that means. Let's go to a hockey game. And then he wound up falling in love with the game like many fans do when they go inside an arena for the first time to see that game And so from there it was always kind of in the back of his mind You know a colleague visits said to him you know. I'm moving to la to work with jack. Kente cook who's going to get an nhl franchise and was like what do you mean nhl franchisor. Are there any available. And he said yes. The six available in ed is a light bulb went off and he ran jerry woman and said look. This is a great idea. Why don't we do this. jerry said. That's fantastic go ahead. Let's do it ran into the city met with the. May you know he he just. He went gung ho for everything that he believed would work. And you see it. Even later in his life outside of the flyers anything he put his mind to. He went all out but at the time he had nothing to his name. He had to make it work. He had no choice. He mortgages entire life to get that team on the ice for the first time. And you see it in the personality. One of the reasons that the flyers saw such quick success. You know he. He wouldn't allow it to happen any other way. How much do you think he and his group were aware. Guess or tapped into or maybe. Maybe there wasn't any right. I i guess. I'm trying to get into the the dna of hockey in the philadelphia area. Now we're going to go back a little bit in a minute. But this from what i understand. This is not the first conversation around the nhl looking at philadelphia's a market. But i guess. I'm trying to get at and obviously you know the book you know goes into the history of hockey and philadelphia. But i i guess. I'm trying to figure out like what was driving. That was it this this sort of massive untapped you know hockey culture and In in the dynamic looking for a finally in nhl to express itself or was it more the arena and the convenience and maybe timing frankly of of this nhl as a as a as an enterprise right more than anything else than than an expression of of hockey finally the top tier pro level. It's an interesting question so like you mentioned. There were multiple attempts before nineteen sixty seven to get an nhl team in philadelphia one. That's exceeded kind of with the quakers. Which i'm sure we'll talk about soon back in the nineteen thirties but there were other attempts as well. You know a guy named len pedo tried to move the montreal maroons to philadelphia in the nineteen forties. And you know he was promising to build a multi-million dollar arena and he had he had even gotten approval from the league and there were a lot of attempts like that throughout the decades Leading leading up to the flyers. All of them pretty much failed for various reasons But but but what. You asked an interesting question. It's it's almost impossible to really pinpoint why exactly it was the flyers attempt that one verses You know why was that team successful while all the other teams never even got the chance to be frankly Ed snider had this idea that You know he. He looked at himself as an average guy which to be fair he was at the time he was just some guy working for football team He had he had almost nothing to his name and he looked at himself as just a regular average guy You know he was in his adopted city of philadelphia. Having moved from dc and he loved philadelphia. He he really identified with the people of south philadelphia thought that he was very much like them and he was and he had this belief that well. I'm a regular guy. And i like hockey. Why wouldn't all the other regular guys living in this region. There's no reason why they wouldn't like it too and it's really it's almost an overly simplistic viewpoint. But really if you think deeper about it it's kind of sheer brilliance ingenious to just don't not worry about you know what we would today which is market research and and look at the numbers and looked at and just and just look at the people in the region. Say i know these people. I've spoken with them. I've met them. I've hung out with them. There's no reason why they wouldn't like this. I know it you know. It's it's a risk a but that's what he did. He fervently believed that he knew what philadelphia was gonna like and it turned out. He was pretty pretty right about that art. Let's let's talk about before we go back to the. Let's say the maybe the beginning of this right because i think the The quakers really kind of our. You know i'm sure. There's some private primordial easy from before that but probably replaced as sort of finally domicile but yet to the extent you can. Can you go a little bit deeper into this Flirtation with the. Maroons and them possibly coming to philadelphia. 'cause that story in itself and i know that's not sort of your direct focused but the maroons were an interesting thing because they were the clearly the number two franchise in montreal and and they have basically been sort of dormant for some time march because of the depression and the war. And all that kind of stuff. It's just interesting to me that that would have been Perhaps something in the late forties early fifties that could have been the nhl in philadelphia and ironically the the first true expansion from the unquote original. Six you know before the sixty seven. Thanks so i just really curious. As to sort of the wrestling's of that to the extent you've got any sort of knowledge or understanding of it right so Basically like you said the. Maroons went dormant in nineteen thirty. Eight right around the time of the war and like you said coming out the great depression and in the forties Len pedo who was he was on. The board of directors of the canadian arena company And had actually worked for the maroons. For some time He purchased the team promising to construct a two and a half million dollar arena where the baker wasn't philadelphia and then move move the maroons to philadelphia To become the nhl seventeen Essentially you know there was a lot of politics. Involved is not really a is not really a definitive answer of exactly what happened. A lot of this was very secretive at the time in in inasmuch not even appearing in nhl board of governors minutes So truly on the insiders club then how so essentially it. It sounds like there was a lot of pushback from the philadelphia. Robots who was an american league team at the time they played out of the philadelphia arena. Which is a whole nother story on. Its own but basically The guy who ran the philadelphia arena. Pete tyrel he pretty much ran hockey and philadelphia. He you know the philadelphia arena was the only place that remotely housing. Nhl team and it was a pretty bank building in the first place and so any team that wanted to play in philadelphia. Pretty much had to go through him on. He pushed back very very hard with the league. He pushed back very hard against pedo. He he you know he tyrel had connections with the city and he made it very difficult for pedo to make his pitch to the city of philadelphia to get that dream. Arena bill and pretty much. The process dragged on for many years. And at some point. It just kind of fizzled out. you know in the nhl pretty much reversed. The sale of the maroons in pilaff drought. Which i guess was the only other sort of viable building Of size and scale didn't have ice making capabilities. And i guess the fact. I guess there was a there wasn't sort of really for whatever reason any appetite to maybe install such either right it and it would probably hit the same snags because of tyrel not wanting competition in the city with his hockey team. And that's a consistent theme that occurred in the decades before the flyers of the owners of the philadelphia arena trying to prevent from coming in interesting. So that's why pedo went. Sort of the i build a new arena kind of Route but i guess ultimately the funding couldn't be cobbled together to make that happen and war. I guess he ran out of time because it was a deadline. Attached to this franchise going somewhere right pretty much. The league kept you know giving him leeway giving them leeway but at some point there were like you know you gotta get this done by x. Date and then he couldn't get it done and they terminated the agreement and basically made the canadian arena company. Return pitas payment. Well so that's interesting. So i said this is not. This is not a conversation devoted to the maroons. But i guess that will be something that i wanted to sort of dig into somehow because in essence with the failure of that arena and the ability to get the funding for it That just basically ended the potential re Resurrection i guess of the maroons franchise is all new and interesting to me but you know clearly. I'm digressing as i often do in this on this show and i you know i apologize for that but so let's let's back up. Then let's talk about this This team call the quakers right because As we delve into a number of other occasions the misnomer of this thing called the original six right. The quakers predate this. I don't know what would you call. Wallpapered history of the nhl that way to put it. Yeah prior to this. What i think people of certain age of legendarily think is was truly the original six but clearly not the case because there was this thing called the quakers. How and what were they all about. Because they were part of the nhl prior to i guess the calling into to what became the six that lasted for so all right well for the listeners. That wouldn't necessarily know. the original. Six era was from nineteen forty two through nineteen sixty seven so it wasn't an enormous swatch of the league's history. But of course is the most well known when you talk about old history. Nhl but like you said before. Nineteen forty two know. The league existed for decades before that The quakers were actually a relocated franchise started as the pittsburgh pirates and when the pirates owner died Their sons took over and pretty much. Were not really aware of how to run a team and they were really struggling. Team was struggling on the ice. They were They were having financial struggles. They they were playing some home games on the road to try to draw more fans. It was pretty ugly and essentially they just wanted to get out of it and so they sold the team and this is where there is debate publicly. They sold the team to benny leonard. The famous fighter But in reality. It appears that Big bill dwyer Mob boss new york was actually the owner of the team There's some discussion as to. Was he involved at all. Why did he not announced himself as the owner It appears that the nhl had made a didn't so much have a rule but they had a preference for owners not owning multiple teams and he had already owned team new york and so he wanted to control this pittsburgh franchise without causing a problem with the nhl. So he took benny leonard and put him in charge of running the pittsburgh pirates You know they had a lot of problems still even with leonard in charge and so they relocated to philadelphia and it was a planned temporary relocation. They were their hope was to move back to pittsburgh they were trying to fix up. Duquesne arena played in or build a new arena You know after the stock market crash in nineteen twenty nine to steel industry was not doing well in pittsburgh so there were a lot of issues that contributed to the pirates. Not doing well. Enter the quakers Say they're gonna show up in philly and play for you know couple years. Maybe in you know we'll figure out what to do within the long term and right from the get go it was just i mean it was. It was pretty pretty bad. I mean They they lost game after game. They struggle to to to any fans into the game. Really i mean some of these. Some of the attendance numbers for the games were horrific There was a there was a canadian american hockey league team at the same time. The arrows who were drawing more than nhl franchise the quakers So you know without without going on non about it. It an interesting piece of philadelphia hockey history because of how how badly the team failed on the ice and in the box office and it kinda shows it almost showed a blueprint for what not to do in the future Which is interesting because you see other teams after them succeed and fail. Based on how they followed or didn't follow the quakers business model. Ultimately the quakers only were in philadelphia for one year and then the team was pretty much. Shut down and They still hold the record in the nhl. Four fewest wins in a season. Which is just the record yuan in philadelphia. Yeah well and and i think winning percentage it so among the all time lowest although i think the the capitals in the right it's it's second lowest to the capitals correct. You know. i think. I'm looking at the data. Here they won thirty six. Winning percentage for the further quakers in the capitals. Where at one. Thirty one. In seventy four seventy five but still and four wins out of. What are they play. Forty four right. But i guess the question sort of becomes it was why philadelphia say versus anywhere else from pittsburgh And i guess also was it. Was it more a dynamic around the specifics of this team and leonard and and and the the the dynamics of that or was this really more of a depression era story because we're talking about literally the immediate aftermath of a cataclysmic economic than the united states right. So there's not a definitive answer to that question but it's definitely it's definitely interesting to discuss Before they agreed to move the team to philadelphia they had looked at other options including atlantic city. and they. there's not really antic city really interesting. Yeah they they looked into it and it just wouldn't work out for them. Apparently not that it worked out much better in philly but they there's not a real answer to why they chose philly. It's possible it had to do with the distance between philly in pittsburgh obviously philadelphia one of the most populous cities in the country. Even at that time You know there's a lot of things going for it and even amidst the depression. The minor league team in philadelphia was still doing fairly. Well all things. Considering i mean. They weren't weren't blowing the doors off. Vinnie thing in terms of Gate receipts but they were doing fairly well. Considering that there was a major financial crisis going on at the time So there was reason for optimism. They they the philadelphia arena was still fairly new at the time so it wasn't quite decrepit yet but it wasn't a great building it was it was fine. It was adequate So there was. There were reasons for optimism But you know the team was terrible on the ice. They showed no fight The marketing for the team was not rate And it's possible that philadelphia took offense to the idea that they would just be a pit. Stop for this team. You know they had a team. The arrows that had been there since nineteen twenty seven and would continue to remain in that city for for many years and they supported the arrows Who eventually became the ramblers. They supported both of those teams very well and then here comes. Nhl team saying here. We're going to stop here for a year. Come support us. And then we're going to leave philadelphia. Isn't that kind a city that the it's definitely something that handicapped them right from the beginning. Do you sense that they could have had a shot. If they could have stayed around a little longer or do you think that the arena was just a you know. Part of the problem was never gonna sort of cut it longer term. It was benny leonard in his sort of star. Power baby fading away since at least a decade removed from his his boxing A you know a wins and all that kind of staff. I was just that the money was the lack of discretionary income. I mean i'd atlantic city sounds interesting but even that would have been probably even more dependent on the idea of discretionary income because people have to travel to get there before they spent their money right which to me in a nineteen thirty kind of environment looking back just doesn't seem to be logical given you know the economic times right and certainly i mean it's it's difficult to quantify that completely but you know the arrow succeeded a pretty well. During that time period and ticket prices were not that much lower than the quakers. It's not like The quakers were charging double and triple the prices. They were charging A little bit more because it was in. Nhl team as opposed to a minor league team But you know you had a team that did not have much fight at all. It's one thing not to win. It's another to just not be entertaining. and you know the the arena just wasn't made for nhl team you know nhl teams even at that time played in you know nice arenas for the time they weren't state of the art by any means it was still the nineteen twenty s in the nineteen thirties. But t nhl teams at that time played very large solid arenas and the philadelphia arena. Was not that at all. It was a minor the arena You know it was already falling apart. Only a few years after it was bill and just got worse as time progressed But you know it I think a big part of that is how they came into the city. I mean there's there's a great quote in chapter in book four from an author who had written aditorial right after it was announced that the team was moving to philadelphia And basically the way the author phrased it was the national league's head step in turn over the big league franchise to a group of new. York capitalists who piloted last place club into philadelphia. And tell us to like it which is a very philadelphia attitude there. They've got an opportunity to support. Nhl team and their response is almost like a way. Why why are you coming our city like that. You know the what. You're not really one of us are you. You know it's a it's a very philadelphia attitude and it probably contributed greatly to people being skeptical about the squad and then not really supporting it too. Well but but i said two crisis number one it does. It doesn't necessarily speak ill of hockey as as a as an endeavor right because you're mentioning the arrows. And and i guess the question sort of embedded in that is how much did being a quote unquote. Nhl team matter because it doesn't seem like it did in some respects was i mean the nhl. I wasn't or was it. Not you know sort of the highest level of hockey. I'm assuming you got teams in boston and chicago. New york playing in his bed montreal. It's right playing these big. Arenas right like you're mentioning of time. I it sounds pretty darn major league to me at that point. But does i guess your. I'm wondering if the the fan and was discerning enough. It sounds like perhaps they were that. Hey okay maybe it's the major league hockey here in philadelphia finally but it's clearly not passing the smell test when you see what how they're how poorly they're competing and and you know we might as well stick with a team that's the least competitive and has been around understands the marginal abedin the arrows. Despite my thing. I think you hit the nail right on the head. I mean you know. Th there was clearly a distinction between a national hockey league franchise and everything else. But that doesn't mean anything if the fans don't feel like there's a commitment to them into their city i mean fan fans aren't stupid they can tell when an ownership group is committed to them and not And the quakers were not committed to philadelphia. Right from the get-go interesting too. Because at the end of that season they the quakers as well as ottawa ottawa. Yeah i think Left the leak right so went down from ten to eight teams. And then you're talking about like detroit hanging around in montreal. The second maroons and the right american stuff right. But that's and that obviously continues to lead towards the further calling down to that or quote unquote original six Past all of that. So you know. I can't imagine how easy it must have been or hard. It must have been frankly to run. You know professional sports at the height of the depression right The fact that. I think that the nhl was able to sort of slimmed down and hold on for that period of time is is probably a testament to maybe the all boys club that hung on. And maybe maybe the partially the reason why it took so long ultimately decades later to finally get out of that sort of Sixteen kind of navel-gazing and get into sort of the world of expansion in bigger geographies. Yeah for sure. I mean again. You hit the nail right on the head there. And you're you're you're taking my answers right for me and that's great you've already expressed a wonderful understanding of of the nhl in philadelphia hockey at that time. Why is them. What do you think then having gone all the way back to that and and having why do you think it took so long between dan and nineteen sixty seven and this flirtation us in thirty nine forty or so to sort of get to that sort of top flight. Nhl experience again. Because it's clear. That philly was pretty robust in terms of being a hockey town. But for whatever reasons not sort of you know i just by the sheer fact of being a relative stone's throw from some of these major and long lasting. Nhl hockey franchises in the northeast. It would just seem to be natural that it would be almost somewhat inevitable that philadelphia would qualify both in terms of its market and whatnot to to be in. Nhl worthy franchise. I i just find it so hard to believe it took all awaits all the great expansion for it to finally happen right. And and there's gotta there's going to be a multitude of reasons surrounding that one is like we talked earlier. How the philadelphia arena pretty much controlled hot in philadelphia. They they had some really nice poll with city up at the same time. You know we we also talked about the nhl not really being interested in expansion until the sixties. I mean they. There were multiple examples of the nhl expressing an interest in adding teams including when he does attempt in the nineteen forties nhl. Talk with cleveland in the forties There are a lot of examples of the nhl kind of feigning interest in expansion. But when you look really deeply into it it looks like those attempts. Were not really serious. It was almost like an attempt to save face and be like what we looked into it by. You know you'd say it's not. It's not for us right now. So i it's kind of both of those together philadelphia almost a pushing back against An nhl team and it was the nhl. Just not interested in expanding until the sixties Before we leave the quakers a few names to kind of stuck out right. It wasn't like i a farcical. You know on on ice performance but there were some some quality names attached to that franchise for that year that that went on to some great things in the league. Certainly sit how he played his first professional caesar first. Nhl season with the quakers. He went onto a hall of fame. Certainly not with the quaker but he had a phenomenal career You had wally kilrea. Who played a very long time in the nhl There were some really good players that quakers had the just didn't have the team as a whole they didn't have. They didn't have the right coach. they didn't have the right style. The have the support cast And to be fair said how was very young. He wasn't yet a superstar Like he eventually was With could played a net for them he would he would Bounce around through various philadelphia teams. But you know at the end of the day as as we know in any sport you need more than just a couple of years But yet we there was. Some there was some good players who got their start with the quakers and got their start in philadelphia and The only other hall of famer. I guess was this cooper. Smeaton guy yeah. Interestingly was coach but he was probably more known for being the head referee for the league in its very formative days until the until around this time when he took over as As coach being the referee in chief. I guess for twenty years in this league. I know it's pretty. Sounds like a kinda unique set of qualifications perhaps maybe not as evidenced by their performance on the nice to be a coach. Certainly like you said that you know they believe at the time that he was gonna bring discipline you know. He'd rule with an iron fist and keep everyone in line and it turned out that yeah he was great at that but it wasn't a very good coach. On at the end of the season he actually went right back to working for the nhl And that's that's inevitably how he ended up in the hall of fame with service to the league. Not having anything to do. It is time with the quakers or sorry so explain to me maybe just sort of in a in a sort of a a maybe in a summary fashion the the fits and starts of of some of the teams on the minor league level You know to kind of fills in the gaps between the nhl flirtation in in the late thirties. And then the ultimate domus filing of the flyers and sixty seven Maybe to give our audience a bit of a sense of you know just some of the verve in the names of the teams and the you know and the I don't know some of the perhaps some of the more memorable sort of things that sort of kept hockey going in philadelphia because it was pretty rich despite its minor league ness now right right absolutely and so we mentioned the arrows from the canadian american league they started in nineteen twenty seven. They played through nineteen thirty five and pretty much. The hours franchise every team that followed them in line of succession. I'm about to go through. There were different teams but they all kind of went off of one another so the arrows played until nineteen thirty five and the new york rangers decided they wanted with their farm team in philadelphia and so the arena. Shut down the arrows and then started the ramblers nineteen thirty five using pretty much the same foundation The ramblers played for six years and then the rangers shutdown that farm team because of the war so the arena wanted to create their own team again. And that's how you get to the rockets in a falcons and so like there's this long line of multiple teams that kind of were born from one another and the ramblers In the in the first year won the championship of what was then called the international american hockey league. Eventually becoming the american league They won the championship their first year and they were selling out games into the city loved them. I mean they. The fans really went for that team. and in fact they were the they would often They they would do when they found out that the rangers were making the playoffs and certain years because the rangers would take some of their best players as as most nhl teams with their farm teams so as the years progressed. The ramblers started doing more poorly because they were being did a great team. That was being guarded by the nhl squad. And so you know they'd announced the rangers scoring the arena and the fans would boo because the rangers were stealing their their teams players. So as you really saw philadelphia start to fall in love with some of their hockey teams. that's interesting because it also feels to me like it's a bit of a A more i don't know premodern. I'm gonna call it annexation of the philadelphia market Whatever you wanna call it by the rangers right. It's almost it's almost like. They had a sort of an extension if you will into that market. By means of their of their minor league franchise absolutely and and that was something that nhl teams Definitely did throughout that era they would have multiple farm teams in various leagues. All over the region You know philadelphia just to drive up the turnpike easy to call players up and down. You know kind of the same reason. The flyers eventually put the phantoms nearby. So you're right. It's very interesting to see how new york almost gave philadelphia Kind of a stamp of approval from what was a major nhl city at the time. I it's almost a stamp of approval. Saying you know we recognize that philadelphia has the potential to be this great hockey market. And that's interesting coming from a city that is now such a rival when it comes to sports Who else what else sort of of that. I mean i'm assuming that that kind of hockey. Was i don't know i a little bit more rough and tumble perhaps then maybe the If you call the nhl refined at the time. Yes certainly. I mean minor hockey and in fact if you even jumped to the the second edition of the ramblers which was the eastern hockey league in the nineteen fifties Eastern hockey league was the league that spawned slapshot movies so You see you know hockey. It always been rough and tumble. They're always fights. They're always brawls. But once you get to the eastern league you really start to see That stereo typical. You know i went to a. I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out kind of mantra and the ramblers okay to actually had the longest tenure of any team before them nine years The very very sad ending where they were. They went into bankruptcy and shutdown suddenly a but that team even today still has such a cult following the fans. They didn't sell out the building very much but the fans that showed up or die hard. They were so supported they would travel to To watch team on the road. I mean even today you go you go into forums you go into facebook groups and people love the h. l. people loved the ramblers. You still see people sharing ticket stubs. And saying i was at this ramblers game in nineteen sixty two in fact lou nolan. Who is the pa announcer for the flyers and has been since nineteen. I believe nineteen sixty seven. He got his start in hockey by going ramblers games as a kid. You know he he. Yeah i chatted with him at length just casually about his memories of the philadelphia arena and watching some of his favorite players in the eastern league at the time. So it was. It was one of those leagues that really helped spawn some really devoted fandom to hockey in and it really you know they folded just a couple of years before they announced the philadelphia was going to get in. Nhl team in nineteen sixty six now. That's interesting i wanted to get into that. Because why why that gap Was it because the the the the The mechanics of getting the flyers into the league was underway or or was it just a sort of a folly or a a chancery of time that the that for whatever reasons the ramblers couldn't hang on until then because a three year gap and then this new. Nhl thing i you know I gotta think if you're a hockey fan of philadelphia. Were kind of like you know what what's happening here. Absolutely and it's more just a matter of the timing in fact when the ramblers shutdown very suddenly pretty much they they had not made their escrow. Payment to the league in the league just announced that suspending the ramblers franchising. There was kind of an internal battle with the ownership group in just went into bankruptcy and folded. It was very sudden. no one really knows. The full story of what happened is kind of lost a history when they folded in nineteen sixty four. There was not even an inkling that the nhl was going to expand that didn't get announced until nineteen sixty five so it was just a matter of chance that you had that gap in that the flyers just coincidentally followed the end of the ramblers. Ed just kind of worked out. Wouldn't snyder than the even with the the idea of of of a building and and and all of that wouldn't that give you pause that you know maybe hockey isn't the right thing that maybe sort of pushing this market because of what happened to the rockets and excuse me the ramblers and while the rockets to and just you know and i don't know it would give me pause right that you know. Well there's not a fledgling minor league here. Why would i wanna take a chance after you know with a gap or two or did he see around a corner. Somehow that may be given the nhl treatment hockey could indeed succeed. Perhaps with the new building center. I'm not even sure he looked that deeply into it. I to my knowledge. I don't believe he ever attended ramblers game. I don't believe he ever attended any hockey game in philadelphia. I believe he had an understanding that there was a hockey team but past that. I'm not certain he knew anything anything more. Yeah though that might have been a good thing. Because you think that you'd want to somehow market or market see how successful or passionate a hockey fan base might be in the market before you you know really go out on a limb and build a building and get a new. Nhl expansion franchise and when he when he was older actually looking back on on his on his career. He made a comment that you know if we had done market research back then that we do now we would never have started the flyers because we would have seen some of the history in and said. Oh this isn't worth the risk and so it's fortunate that he didn't really look into it. Because you never philadelphia probably would have gotten a team eventually a but it's surely wouldn't have been the flyers wouldn't have been him. Oh the classic case of not knowing what you don't know right. I guess and and exactly and sometimes it works out. Well yeah i think. Sometimes their another a lot of performers for example sort of take that sort of like. I didn't know any better. I just was doing it and doing my best at it. And i shouldn't be doing but that's why i did it and wind up becoming success all right. Let's round the corner here. So i cannot let this conversation. Go without Talking about world hockey association and the blazers And frankly as i emailed to you as well the I guess the the dalliance across the across the river there to the jersey knights As well being sort of the philadelphia area i. I wonder this way. I i wonder given the relatively. I would call a checkered. I guess it was fairly strong history. And what maybe the relative newness of the philadelphia flyers in the market. Why would the w. h. look at philadelphia being somewhat of a. I don't know somewhat still early and fragile. Nhl market as being quote unquote ripe for a world hockey association challenger especially given the fact that the flyers were in this relatively new and state of the art building that the blazers i'm guessing didn't even have a prayer of domicile themselves him so the w. h. a. Did not look at well. I shouldn't say did not look at philadelphia. They didn't choose philadelphia. the blazers started in miami They were they were awarded. Miami was awarded w. h. e. franchise then franchise right and then when they were unable to get their arena. Bill and there are financial issues. They sold the team to Jim cooper and bernie brown In in south jersey region and they relocated the team to philadelphia and made a deal with the city to play at the what was then. What was it called the convention hall sense civic center. They basically re outfitted the inside of the civic center with an ice rink and paid and paid a large amount of money to do so. So that the blazers could be there and an an answer to you to the other part of your question about why philadelphia was right for world hockey association team. I'm not so certain. It was per se in that would be that'd be provable. By seeing how terribly the blazers did in their one year in town But at the time it was nineteen seventy two And at the time the flyers were an up and coming but really underperforming team. They've made the playoffs a couple years. Never got past the first round and they had they had blown a division lead late one of the seasons and mr playoffs and the last day and so there was a segment of philadelphia. Who was really ready to love hockey. But we're getting frustrated with the flyers. They weren't yet winners. They were not winning stanley cups yet. They were on the verge but they weren't yet they're so the feeling towards the flyers was skeptical and hopeful and disappointed and so it did create some semblance of room for another team. But i'm not sure of the world. Hockey association was the right choice especially with how they eventually ended up spending money on on players but it but it does create an interesting Segment of the market When you're talking about Can philadelphia handled two major league teams. Just a few years after the flyers started sure enough. The answer was no but you wouldn't have been able to guess that at the start. Yeah well you want to talk about the start their first ever game. Certainly they went out to Do warm ups and You know something that ice seemed a little echoey and you could feel it Being hollow underneath and dive sand piling up a little bit of background of what the civic center was in relation to say something like the spectrum because senate will your it was a convention center. It was it was not a sports arena. They tried to outfit it to be a sports arena and so You know ice-making was not nearly as modern in nineteen seventy two as it is now and surely not in a building that's not meant to handle ice rink. So you know the sand piling up the corners and the ice downing hollow and You know derek sanderson. Who was the big pickup for the blazers off from out of the boston bruins organization. It goes up to the ref. Says i'm not sure this is safe to play on. The refugees is sweating bullets. And he's nervous says we can't cancel the game. It's opening night you know. We're gonna have to refund everybody all. We can't do that. we gotta play the game. You know this is a brand new league. Everyone's counting on us so this area they go to the locker room while they're in the locker room they hear are very loud crash and they run out and they see that the zamboni has fallen through the ice cut huge hole in the ice and pretty much. They had to cancel the game and give everyone their money back and sure enough the souvenir orange pucks the date given out to everyone when they walked in. The building ended up being thrown at the players on the ice in as as philadelphia fashion. Yeah well. I'm pri pri pri pri staging the the The love affair with santa claus at the old veterans stadium. But of course. But so. But i mean you could not have picked a more Is a debut right And i just set the tone. I guess How do you so i mean. Obviously we. we've talked about that. what with with. Dennis murphy of all people right the founder still with us at at ninety years. I think he is i. I'm just really curious as to how they figured out a way to try to keep themselves competitive in marketing against The flyers. I'll be at not necessarily lighting it up themselves but at least you know in a state of the art arena and and the The nhl being The legacy league. And all that kind of stuff i wonder how have they went about marketing themselves as a as an alternative of that and were the folly of that To even try a so. They they utilize their marketing scheme. Pretty much in direct competition with the flyers intentionally They they tried to ride the wave of scepticism towards the flyers. They took a lot of vailed shots at the flyers. A lot of of not veiled shots a lot of very straightforward shots. They they made comments about you. Know people often into wait. Wait outside in the rain in line at the spectrum to get tickets because the box office wasn't covered in so they made little shot. They took those shots at the fire. Saying well our building. You can wait inside. It's nice and warm kind of thing. i like. They did a lot of things like that. They they lobbed to challenge across the city to say let's have our teams play and see who's better and of course the flyers knew better than to engage in that because that's a that's a no win situation right there And so y-. The blazers really tried to position themselves as the alternative to the flyers But you know that's really hard to do when the flyers had bobby clark they had. Yeah they were really. They were starting to come into their own And the blazers had a Less than nice hockey arena to say the least and The you know they had some big on their squad but they weren't a great team at the beginning. It took them a couple months really to get into it. I mean derek. Sanderson was the big name But in the nhl. Derek sanderson wasn't a high powered first line scoring forward. He was he was a a very big personality in the w. e. j. He was certainly going to be one of the best defensive players but the w. h. was surely a step down from the nhl and so they had their work cut out for them They did have under the qual- who wound up leading the league in scoring in that one year i was a dynamic personality in dynamic score. But it's it's tough to position yourself in direct competition with an inch with an h squad and then not perform as well as that. Nhl squad they also had bernie parent right absolutely. Yeah completely completely. Forgot to mention him absolutely names that at least get them some level of if you will curiosity and credibility rights to at least be worth a look to you know for sure bernie would signed with miami and then when when they moved the philadelphia he agreed to play for philadelphia and he had some sort. He had some sore feelings towards the flyers because they traded him to toronto and he went when he was told that he was being traded to the maple leafs. I mean he cried. He was so distraught. Move because he loved philadelphia. You know an original expansion draft pick And he had some hard feelings towards philadelphia. There were some nasty things he said about the flyers at that time in the press which of course later you know water under the bridge especially after you win two stanley cup for the flyers But at the time you know he was really us really hurt from the flyers having moved him And he was happy to be in competition with the flyers and that really added to the drama and added to the positioning of the blazers Put themselves in. So how did it all end it. Obviously it didn't start well after being hastily relocated from miami where they never got a chance to play. But you know talk about. I if you're if you're if you're pulling out the map and trying to look at. Where are you going to relocate this franchise you you know you spend the dial and i. I don't know i'm not quite sure. I would imagine where they wound up at the end of the season. Maybe maybe some insight is to like how and why that happened right and the season was looking up at one point. They barely made the playoffs at the end of the season but they were playing really well. They had a terrible first few months and they're really they're dynamic end to the season really just got them into the playoffs and they were looking great and then bernie peron actually walked out on the team. And there's a dispute as to what exactly happened You know at the time bernie and his agent claimed that they were owed money that they weren't paid and of course the owners of the blazers said that's absolutely not true and i. It's still disputed to this day because bernie doesn't want to talk about it and understandably so it was a really painful time for him in his life but it really forced the team to put an unproven goalie in net. They wound up losing very quickly in the playoffs and it was really disappointing. End to what could have been a good season and then almost out of nowhere. The team was sold to vancouver and then it was gone just like that. It was it was. It was in the newspapers before the employees even knew they were getting calls. They were coming into working in calls from people saying as the team been sold and they had no idea they said no. We're still here and sure enough. The rumors proved out proved to be true And the teams gone. Just like that okay. So they didn't. They never really drew well right now. Not really okay. So then i and i know. Your book doesn't touch on this. But the metropolitan area encompasses south jersey. Right and right. I'm just really curious based on what you could sort of put together or assuming you've got some knowledge or some understanding or maybe even just an educated guess why then in all their wisdom would the w. h. a. Think that given the situation that was going on in new york which was the golden blades essentially having a falling out with the madison square garden. Folks and stuff. Why would they look at suburban philadelphia to relocate that team as the jersey knights given what had just happened across the river with their w. a franchise in philadelphia. Proper doesn't seem that that is a fantastic question not was not sort of the pinnacle of logical of of. That's that's certainly true. And that's a great question that i do not know the answer to that probably would have been a great question for dennis. Murphy yeah while we're we're hoping we get him again at some point soon. 'cause a lot of things we want to talk to about for sure including that but yeah just a couple of things number one. It speaks at least the fact that philadelphia feels like a strong hockey market or at least worth a shot right but at the time. It seems almost counterintuitive given the relative debacle that that was the blazers that here prior absolutely. I think you said perfectly right there all right. Well let's Let's just sort around all this up then described to me then what you feel. Sort of the The dynamic of hockey since then because obviously the flyers have done quite well for themselves. Thank you on a number of different levels. I e maybe not racking up a ton of stanley cup championships You know and You know but but so obviously a very dynamic and and standing part of the philadelphia sports culture values to the broadway bullies. And and all that stuff i mean they. They've really cemented their their legitimacy. If you will in the philadelphia sports from but it's interesting how it's not sort of Fended off minor league hockey competition over the years since right. It's almost like to me like you're in chicago right chicago. Wolves filling in gaps when the blackhawks were sort of in their in their waning periods of time Became a pretty strong and dynamic alternative especially to the suburban crowd for the hockey dollar in chicago. I it seems to me that philadelphia's another great example of hey the markets big enough to support an alternative minor league franchise despite having a very successful a relatively fires in the nhl. It's not it's not common. Is it no and certainly and when you talk about successful obviously you can talk about it from two different ways. If you're looking strictly at stanley cups yeah you can. You can argue all day about that. But from a financial perspective and from a market perspective the flyers have been one of the most successful teams in the nhl since nineteen sixty seven. I mean they've they've consistently sold out that building Almost year after year Up up through the last few years but in terms of minor hockey you had to a pretty serious minor hockey franchises in philadelphia after the flyers. Were already there. You're the firebirds run for about six years in the city in the seventies and then you had the phantoms run for about thirteen years in the city from from nineteen ninety-six to two thousand nine and both of them had different levels of success. The firebirds were pretty successful ultimately relocated to syracuse and the phantoms. Were perhaps the most successful american league franchise of their thirteen years. I mean they they really helped prop the ahl up at a time. They were battling for minor leagues premacy with the international league. So it's interesting to see like you said the that philadelphia support two different teams A major and a minor league team and one of the reasons is because the two don't really compete with one another at least in the modern hockey market back in the nineteen thirties. It was much different. But in in the seventy s you know a minor league team Was a ticket for minor. League team was much cheaper than nhl team and for sure in the nineties when the phantoms came about i think at the time flyers tickets were maybe like forty fifty dollars for lower levels seat and a fan of stick. It was five dollars. So you're not competing for the same consumer at that point so from a business perspective does make sense in a hockey mad market to to to put a minor league team to support the major league. Team it really helps generate the next generation of fans who at least in the seventies with the firebirds could not even get ticket to the flyers because they were winning stanley cups and sold out every night and in the ninety s may not have been able to afford flyers tickets necessarily and so it really creates an opportunity for families young kids to see a hockey game in a way. That doesn't break the bank. Eighty costs you know thirty forty dollars for family ford to see a game for the phantoms. Let's say in the nineties whereas it costs hundreds of dollars to see a flyers game family of four and so you see from a business perspective. How it makes sense especially market as big as philadelphia. Yeah sure that makes sense an and but it's also interesting dynamic though is a little different than say here in chicago right. So the the wolves right became more of a suburban lower cost fun filled minor league heavily. Promotional dynamic versus the in city big market if you will Blackhawk thing the the geography and the stadium situation in philadelphia. Quite different right. Absolutely you've got what's called the sports complex philadelphia and it's it's funny. Because when i was a kid. I never understood that. That was unusual. That a city put all of their sports stadiums in the same little area. I would go to utter cities and you know you go to new. York and madison square garden was in the middle of manhattan. And yankee stadium was over an east and i. I don't understand why you wouldn't put all the stadiums together. And i never understood that philadelphia was unique to that and so people outside philadelphia may not realize that you know at one point. There were five major stadiums in the philadelphia sports complex. You had eagles stadium the phillies stadium. You had veteran stadium. I you had to spectrum. You had the core states are wachovia. Wells fargo center You know at this point. Now you're down to a two three stadiums But it was all in this. Little complex spectrum was where the phantoms played was literally across the parking lot from where the fliers played so when they called a guy up or send him down. They were literally. Send them across the parking lot And it's it's very funny because like you said in in other cities you put the minor league team in a suburban area. I mean you even look at The the vegas golden knights. They're putting their new team and out and henderson which makes perfect sense philadelphia said not an hour. We're going to put it right next door to the flyers And it's it's not going to be a problem and sure enough. They sold out every almost every game for years. Are two questions on that on that front will hopefully let you go at some point The spectrum then at that point in the nineties with the phantoms ninety six through. I guess the through pretty much the the odds right The spectrum was essentially once the wachovia now core states. Or whatever it was called was was Basically the the little baby sister if you will Arena just. I'm i guess the question is why. Why would they keep that arena. Next door Especially since it was part of that you know relatively calm calm compact. He says sports complex versus just you know demolishing it and then leading all of the of the new arena. Take all of its All of its glory. So there's there's a couple of points to that the first is that there was actually enough demand for all of the shows and concerts and events. They had room with. They had enough demand to keep two buildings. Frankly so obviously they put all of the main events in the center You know the forty forty one flyers gained forty. One sixers games Disney on ice and all of the major things that That showed up in philadelphia every year but the spectrum know. The circus came to town every year Concerts every year. You know there's certain bands that you know almost called spectrum home that were they were there so often you know. Bruce springsteen played there all the time and so there was there was enough demand. There were enough events that warranted keeping both buildings open that's part of where the phantoms came from. They one one major tenant that they could count on for forty games a year you know. They tried some other minor minor. Sports like the kicks they eventually put the philadelphia soul in there. You know there are a lot of different teams that Tried the tried to To make it work in the spectrum but the phantoms were the main tenant just like the flyers were back in the day. the other side of it was You know try. Try going into tried being the one to go into snyder's office with that famous Scowl he always had an glare he would always give and tell him that you wanna tear down his baby in nine hundred six. No one was going to do that so instead they could use for the spectrum for many years until pretty much the point where the the building was just physically falling apart and they couldn't repair it anymore. But this was a into rounded up. This was this was a flyers lead. Minor league Franchise in relationship right both in terms of affiliation as well as co ownership and were real estate and all that stuff everything. Yeah so at that point in one thousand nine hundred sixty s when comcast partnered with ed snider and purchased a majority of the team. Comcast is the one that applied for the phantoms franchise so it was held under the same comcast spectacle umbrella. That still runs the flyers. Yeah that's interesting they sit to be. That's a very unique sort of a code. I guess to the story because here area we were talking about sort of the flyers which is kind of the beginning of our conversation right with Not only has gone onto success and becoming one of them. You know standout franchises in in the nhl of maud. Dave chore Here they are you know from business perspective From an arena perspective from a minor league affiliation perspective a broadening of the market right the family markets so to speak that can't afford the that's Ironically you'd think that that would be and and that being directly across the street literally and figuratively is a pretty unique situation. And and all part of i guess sort of the hockey history which i think is unique to philadelphia which you know. I'm not sure. The average fan. Maybe even philadelphia fully understands. Yeah and it really from the fan of chapter really does focus on the business side of it just because you know the history been told very well and so you know you touch the on is history but the business part of it is actually. What's fascinating to me at least in that you like you said you have a major league franchise running a minor league team which was unusual for the time and still unusual now but it really benefited the phantoms and the h. l. at a time when the age was looking for to put more teams in major cities They've really were a small a small market league at the time and they were trying to get into places like philadelphia and trying to get into a major cities around the country. So when you had the flyers who at the time they had various subsidiary companies are the ticketing company that a marketing company. They had an arena. Management company had a food concession company. It was a massive corporation at the time that comcast took it over and basically you know for example. It gives you the opportunity to to to double dip on everything from a business perspective. So if let's say pepsi calls the flyers and says we want to do a sponsorship in have our logo at center ice at the center you can say absolutely. Let's talk about that. But as part of the agreement we also like you to sponsor are minor league franchise and put your logo at their center ices. So there's a way where you can share a lot of the Business opportunities between the two teams and of course use the resources that the flyers have And at the center has in the spectrum has in to really ratchet up the revenue. I mean that the phantoms right out of the gate were exorbitantly successful. Both on the ice and in the box office. I mean they sold out games like crazy. I mean people lined outside the building to get tickets to games. Sometimes and you would have succeeded without the flyers possibly it probably would have been pretty successful but with the flyers owning it. Just kind of was a grand slam. There was no doubt that it was going to succeed. And you know it's a shame because the only reason they ended up moving was because they had to knock down the spectrum. You know who knows how long the phantoms would have stayed there. But basically the spectrum by two thousand nine had reached the end of its useful life and they had a choice of putting you know twenty thirty million dollars to to cut out the inside and rebuild it which was just not worth it to house a minor league franchise and so the decision ultimately was to knock it down in sullivan to someone who would eventually house an allentown which by the way is working out phenomenally if any if any of the fans philadelphia have not been to. That building up once fans are back allowed. A at games That that complex in that region is just remarkable what the phantoms have done up there on. That's and that's obviously a good for geographical Ownership of an and the sort of broadening the base so to speak right for sure That's a more sort of marketing genius. I guess that the flyers been able to kind of leverage over the years. All right one more quick question in an ultra promote an. I'll let you finally get on your life your calling back the quakers for a second I we try to sort of delve into this on a lot of other converse conversations and an explorations on this little show. Where does that history that one year. history Oddly that you know maybe many would like to forget as their ever been a call back to that by the flyers doma sailing. Were recognizing that history if you will at least the sweaters which were pretty cool looking or is it just a complete wallpapering of it and wore ignorance of it and then frankly who cares. No the flyers really have never touched on any of the pre flyers hockey history in the city. There was that rumor jersey for the winter. Classic that used the quakers jersey as the base for it. That never really. They never round abusing it. But you can find some knockoff ones online. Of course they look pretty cool to be honest but it was actually the phantoms who paid paid homage to some some hockey history both in philadelphia and around the hockey world They would do what's called. Turn back the clock nights where the team would wear an old jersey whether it was an old philadelphia jersey They they the flood bombers one night. Because that's where bobby clarke played his junior hockey They regularly paid homage to the To the history of the game. And that's something. That's very very amongst minor league hockey. A really take the history of the game very seriously whereas nhl teams they take their history seriously But it's different. You know you're going to a major league arena. You're going to a major league game. It's much much more serious i. It's a much bigger deal of course And so you may not even expected. Nhl team to delve that far back into history doesn't have any direct money sort of connection to their only has certainly but but at the same time you still want to see that history honored in some way shape or form. And that's what. I hope the book can do really. Yeah no i agree. And i i just think that you know i look. I don't think anybody wants dial it back to the quakers and talk about how they only one four at a forty four and one year of their brief existence right. But i you know if you're if you're smart and you're creative about it you can think about it as. Hey it's it's a callback to Philadelphia being truly original hockey city and being one of the first in the nhl history. Really i guess. I you know there's something to it right. And plus it's got a cool sort of creative thing that could be merchandise -able with that sweater in that logo right. So i don't know we we kinda. I very interesting to see how How history for current teams and call backs and stuff in heritage It seems to be a matter of convenience more than anything else. When it's convenient to make a buck They'll do it right. Like the carolina hurricanes conveniently remembering that the hartford whalers were you know became before them right and the heart people in hartford actually getting a little excited and orse also upset at the same time that it's being done sort of on the and where those revenues go right. It's the convenience of it sort of is just very but that history is there right and you're mentioning that the minor league stuff to you know there would. There's that hockey history that came in between those two h. L. tent poles. If you will it this probably money to be made there so to speak which is not maybe the the best reason but the history in between at the minor league levels and the fans that grew up and kinda kept that flame going until the flyers came in sixty seven and then you know and then with the phantoms. There's a hockey history there right that. You're you're touching on. Your book speaks to You'd think that Some sage You know folks in the organization might wanna you know go through the books a little bit and maybe get kinda on earth some of that. Maybe there's a few dollars to be made along the way. Okay so be lucky. Strike extra but there's a history there that And that heritage. God forbid could actually be resuscitate remembered and you know and just Put into people's minds as they understand what hockey's all about in the philadelphia area. You know that would be fantastic. And if we're both lucky someone high up at comcast cores listening and if they wanna put a little section at. The center are giving giving honor to the history of hockey in philadelphia. I will be the first in line to buy a ticket all right well. Let's give them. The specific excuse wanted to promote the book and the towel la the audience what it is specifically what's included in it and maybe what else you got up your sleeve. Perhaps in your your writing endeavors after this book. That just came out right. It came out about a month ago. Yes it is called out professional hockey in philadelphia. A history and essentially each chapter focuses on a different team that played in philadelphia from the time that the games were first planted here in eighteen. Ninety seven all the way to allow the phantoms left in two thousand nine. It's available in e book and it's available in paperback wherever books are sold your favorite online retailer and directly from the publisher on mcfarland. And what else you got in store any other ideas that you might want to Put pen to paper proverbially. Certainly there's always something everyone's thinking about but That's the kind of that's kind of fun of writing. Just you mess around. And you johnson stuff down and ninety nine percent of turns into nothing and then at some point that little one percent pops out in italian up with the book like this any other any other forgotten sports stuff that might be on your radar at some point. Nope but that's because it's forgotten. I have learned about it. Well there you go. we just did a An episode last week on A revisit of the national crossley the original one and the philadelphia wings the obviously in the current name Continues sort of the somewhat of the legacy. We're certainly part of that. Had tepper and the in the spectrum folks were were part of that mixture as well and that's a very interesting speed bump of history and we've also done a bunch we we actually had Ed tepper on this show as matter of fack talking about the founding of the major indoor soccer league which the spectrum was a a component of because that's where then philadelphia atoms played a couple of winter games and the russian national team came to play them and and that's where he got the idea at tepper did to actually put his dollars and his head together with some other people to actually created birth a sport that was kinda rattling around there. The indoor soccer thing in the late eighty s seventies that became philadelphia being the center of that too. So i don't know an inch and interestingly enough not to interrupt you but the major indoor soccer league earl foreman was instrumental in creating. that was actually ed snider. snyder's brother-in-law. Yeah absolutely i i. I really wish we could have gotten to add Before his passing because Mr foreman was also part of the ab as Starting baltimore and all that kind of stuff you know. But it's various all these things sort of come together but philadelphia. The almost in many respects a very solid cradle of sports entrepreneurialism and and pro sports innovation. The fact that you're in the middle of it. I you know i gotta think something will happen on the way when do let us know absolutely all right there. It is everything you wanted to know about professional hockey in philadelphia. And then some thank you to alan. You can follow. Allen's works at allen bass writing all were dot com bass's to as allen bass writing dot com. You can follow alan on twitter. At alan basked writing all one word. And what else. The book is called professional hockey in philadelphia. History it's published by our friends at mcfarland and it is available wherever you can find good books. of course. 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Bioinspired Flyers

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Bioinspired Flyers

"This swarm of flapping flyers could enhance our exploration of Mars. This is innovation now bringing you stories behind the ideas that shave our future. The NASA innovative advanced concepts program. Nurtures visionary ideas that could transform future NASA missions and bio inspired flyers called Mars. Bees are on that list. The Moore's be team hopes to send flapping wing flyers the size of bumblebees with cicadas sized wings to Mars. Here's Brian Messmer from the University of Alabama. Huntsville it's really a swarm of Mars acting with the rover Mars. Bees are able to feed the rover diva on where to go. One of the issues right now is that we can only see so far for the rover with these Mars vs they can spread out. We can examine the terrain figure out the best route for the rover to take just like their counterparts in nature. These bumblebees will both hover and fly. Sensors and wireless communication devices will allow the swarm to collect scientific data and be is in the sky for the rover on the ground for innovation. Now I'm Jennifer pulling innovation now is produced by the National Institute of Aerospace Through collaboration with NASA and is distributed by w HR V. Visit US online at innovation now dot us.

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The Madness of Waiting Three Weeks

The Cincinnati and Dayton Sports Podcast

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The Madness of Waiting Three Weeks

"The covering sports in the midwest. It's the mid west network and wfan dot net episode two six of the cincinnati and dayton sports podcast and after a three week break is time to give back to local sports. I up a big splash in the coaching ranks. In high school. Football the efforts of the cincinnati bengals and this year's free agency a new name for historic high school team college baseball hit state and it's march madness. Baby all that and possibly more on the local syndey sports podcast episode two six welcome to the cincinnati and dayton sports. Podcast with lee w wing. This is a weekly audio podcast. That covers all sports in dayton and cincinnati ohio and covers areas from northern kentucky and the ohio river up to lima in allen. County richmond indiana and the surrounding whitewater valley region to mass county and surrounding areas. If you want local sports this is your source defined your favorite way of listening to this podcast as well as visiting the public and red bubble shops and find the latest episodes. Please visit syndey. Pod dot com. This opening theme was created with the splash app. It's time for another episode. With your host lee w allen. It's great to be back on the cincinnati dayton sports podcasts. This is episode two. Oh six syndey pod dot com and sunday pod on your social media channels in case you're wondering why such a long break no. It was not planned but some good news in my family's life my fiance and i are moving hands. It's not very far. We're just getting a town home so can't wait to move into that this summer and there's been a lot of cleaning and packing and everything so this podcast had to be set. Aside didn't plan to be weeks there was only supposed to be a week and then another week happened. Another week happened. So that's why there is such a delay. But i can guarantee you. There's probably a lot more local sports and this podcast in that show on radio that dares call itself local sports in dayton. But let's begin. There is a big splash in the cincinnati. High school football coaching ranks. As you might know. Mike daniels took a job with army west point with their football team so the princeton vikings had an opening for the head football coach and making the os so long drive from the woods school district to princeton. Is andre parker. Now this higher really excited me. Because andre parker has been outstanding with witton woods in his ten years. I think the warriors missed the playoffs. Once and i know that was because the warriors didn't have ten games there was only nine so and it was down two week tan but audrey parker has done a great job with the whitton woods warriors and now he'll be entering twenty twenty one as the head coach of the princeton vikings. Now i know. I don't get to talk a lot about coaching changes. Just because of the fact there are a lot that go through the high school ranks but this one affects me because i do broadcast for the princeton. Vikings football team on espn media. And i can't wait to see what's in store for my second year with the vikings so this argos from msn dot com but it was released scott springer of the inquirer about a week ago. Parker's been the successful head coach of witton woods. He was a grad of win. Woods back in the late nineties wasn't ninety eight. Possibly nine hundred ninety nine is the head coach of wooden would since twenty ten when then coach troy everhart resigned took a job at uc and parker was the defensive coordinator when when woods woods won the state title in two thousand nine in division two in the video. That accompanies this article coach. Parker mentioned this is probably the toughest decision he's ever had to make. It is adult life. I mean he's jumping in from division to division one mean it just pretty much princeton's a bigger school district then win woods but i don't think by much but anyway i mean coach. Parker was very excited to take job. Great job great facilities. Great kids and he mentions. That's going to be good. Coaching and fast and aggressive. So i can't wait to see how parker's influence effects the rest of the vikings definitely a higher that once i saw i was stack about just because i've followed high school football for a while and like i said coach parker's done mazing job woods. No no state titles. There was a runner up in. What was it to seventeen yes. In division two to state semifinals. And six postseason appearances. I was only off by two okay at wouldn't woods. Parker was seventy seven and thirty. Seventy seven wins of course and some of the warriors he coached in the nfl from louisville dominate brown also coach mike edwards. Who just won the super bowl with the tampa. Bay buccaneers george. Brown with the miami hurricanes. Chris oats of kentucky david long west. Virginia noah list of michigan. State's anthony take booker maryland and a gray shirt commit to maryland. Andrew bam booker for by daniels. He went nineteen and twenty with two postseason appearances at princeton. Although the vikings forfeits for games and two thousand eighteen because of oh hsa violations. So what does that mean for. Cincinnati as a whole in terms of ice school football and the greater miami conference. I'm glad you asked. I have a feeling that that could be two teams that constantly. Battled for the top of the gmc and will be tom. Bulletins lakota west. Firebirds and andre parker's princeton vikings now. I know i broadcasting princeton. That makes me sound like a homework but just hear me out like i said parker seventy seven thirty. He did a lot of great things with winton woods. Football and in fact. Yeah it's one of the teams. That i was happy to see you. Go in the sec. Just when you think high school football win woods is probably one of the few teams that you think about right at the top of your head just goes how consistent the warriors have been. And you know what i think. He's going to do the same job with princeton. He's going to make them consistent top of cincinnati at. I think he's going to do a great job. So what does that mean for witton woods. Well i don't believe the warriors have hired a new head coach yet. There are few possibilities interior. I think chad murphy's name dropped a couple of times. But i think they'll still be fine. I just i. I know when you leave somewhere that you graduated from and you coach for last decade. You know you accustomed to the kids. The players the parents and the community. Yes i know wouldn't woods is right next door to princeton which i'd never really thought about until now bought a new beginning and i think coach parker will rise to the challenge and i think he'll do some great work with the princeton vikings now already. There are the two thousand twenty one football schedules on the yuppie sports message boards yappy dot com. That's why a p p i dot com and we're gonna go ahead and pull some of those up. of course. I can't go through all of them. We'll be here all day. And i wanna make this episode quick as i can. I know i miss about three weeks of stuff. But let me tell you a little bit about princeton. Twenty twenty one schedule so the vikings will start off august nineteenth at home against the anderson. Football squad moore anderson later than traveling to loveland now one year broadcasting loveland football. I did not get to see anderson. That was the game because of a prior engagement. Although anderson wanted sixty. Three to eight. And i think they had to call the game. Four minutes to go because of fights going back to loveland. I love love love. And i love my year covering the tigers yes. The tigers didn't win that year. But i still appreciate the opportunity to be. The voice of loveland tigers. Football and i was back in high school football in cincinnati. So yeah def so. That's a trip. I look forward to making back at home for princeton on september third against hamilton to open up. Gmc play and then week four. Probably the game. You're gonna watch closely princeton at lakota west. Yeah like i said. I think i'm not saying parker's first year that prince is going to be battling for gmc title. Although i think princeton has the capabilities to do it. I just think you know established and but we'll see yeah week. Four at lakota west week five on september seventeenth home against fairfield september twenty fourth at oak hills october first at middletown and then the last three games are at home against sycamore. Mason and week ten has coal rain now. I believe we're going to back to close to normal in two thousand and twenty one meaning that not every team's gonna make it however if you remember before the coronavirus struck that talks about oh. Hsa expanding teams make the playoffs from eight to twelve. And then i think they were talking about twelve to sixteen at one point. But i don't know if that came to pass so a little bit more wiggle room for all divisions but still. That's that's a tough schedule. I mean at lakota west home against rain. Those are probably going to be the two games to watch especially since princeton knocked off. Coleraine on the road. I win against the cardinals since one thousand nine hundred ninety seven. So definitely looking forward to that sycamore. They're always strong mason's a great team well coached team to middletown they're going to be rebuilding so i can't wait. See how the mideast do and also barnett's stadium can't wait to visit there again. Oh kills. I think they'll be better than last year fairfield. They're gonna get a year of experience under the belt better. I re- talked about lakota. West hamilton gave a real nice battle at hamilton against princeton week. One in two thousand and twenty. So i think that'd be a good game. I think love will be improved. And i think anderson will be tough. Although losing jackson coon the pass the passing quarterback extraordinaire. Something like four thousand yards. Had felt like you have four thousand yards. But yeah anderson's is going to be losing that quarterback so yeah. I think. Chris has got tough schedule. And i can't wait to get back to the grid iron to talk princeton. Vikings football and see the first year of andre parker leading the vikings ship. Speaking of anderson is time to announce the new mascot for ahs please welcome the raptors this article from wwl wt channel five cincinnati also. On msn dot com anderson high school has a new mascots as the raptors with the redskins logo being retired after eight decades of use. School officials said the decision was made after months of planning researching and collaborations was students. Staff and alumni anderson high school officials called a raptor. Strong bold courageous traits found. Anderson's al-matar. Now i up raptors definitely unique because really i think about all the high schools cincinnati dayton area and even northern kentucky and eastern southeastern indiana. I really don't think there's one that space off a dinosaur so definitely creative there. I also liked the new logo. I i don't know of raptors have stripes. I never met a raptor okay but it of has stripes like cincinnati. Bengals does so. I like that little touch. I like the new logo. Originally i thought raptors. Okay parsley. It would have been grave. They took the barents name. Because amelia high school used to be the barons before merging into west clermont glenis. But i do like the raptors name. I know there's gonna be a big fight saying doing the kids'll culture p lou. Well yes the mumblings correct but you know what getting out of you know. People's opinions on it. I i do like the change. And i think it'll be you know something that anderson hang their hats on for quite some time. The three stripes across the nose are representative of anderson's three pillars academics art in athletics. Wait three stripes across knows. I can barely see him on this little picture. But you look towards the snap can see that there are they talking of. That's four on the back of the head. I guess i don't know. But it's a raptor colored orange with thin black stripes teeth because you know. Most animals have teeth since we began. We've been overwhelmed by the level of community. Parents support for our transition efforts where excited to continue the rich tradition of excellence in the areas of academics the arts and athletics and anderson highschool for years to come go raptors as anderson high school principal. Rob fellow said so. I can tell you the day that mike dyer shared it on twitter. There are several comments complaining about. Ooh i already mentioned cancel culture and everything like that but i will definitely say that as we grow more evolved and we gain a higher. You know higher learning of respects. Okay i can hope that. But yeah definitely i i like it. And maybe they'll start trend. There's some schools that have already said they're not gonna change which you know so be it. That's fine but the ones that do they're thinking out of the box. And i do really like that. I mean i've mentioned west claremont the wolves. That's very unique to just because of the fact that again going through all the high schools. I don't really think there's a wolf wolves wolf pack. Although i can tell you since name sports media definitely obsessed with right state having a wolf as raider which get over it already butts. Yeah i like it so can't wait to see the raptors therefore football game again at princeton. And that should be really fun one. To i know the quarterback i mentioned he's graduated and gone but we'll it's a well coached team and it's gonna be fun. Same raptors vikings. You know what month is as joy were march madness. Baby sweet sixteen. Boom actually boom is part of the ref never mind. It's time to talk about the big dance. That's right and this year. There's not a lot to talk about because none of the southwest. Ohio teams made it in no wright. State raiders no dayton flyers and the big dance now miami redhawks cincinnati bearcats. No xavier musketeers. No norfolk north. So why am i talking about on a podcast that talks about local cincinnati dayton sports on glad you asked why not my podcast and go through some the picks and some of my upsets. Then you can also call me haters or whatever you'd like to do but should be very fun brackets i. I've heard ninety eight percent of the conference. Finals did get through unharmed. That is nice but let me tell you. Some of my upsets. I've had will start with these south division of the march madness brackets. I had fifteen seat at our roberts upsetting number two that team in columbus. I know you're gonna call me a hater. But i base it on the fact that that team in columbus really choked as of late. And yeah you can say the made the title game whoop de do but look at the regular season ending. Just now i. i don't see that team. In columbus going far i also have winthrop which is led by pat kelsey. You might know him as a cincinnati native coach of the eagles and also rumored to be the next head coach of xavier. Before travis steele was hired for that job back kelsey worked with chris mac for very long time before taking the winthrop by the white mac. Now with louisville cardinals. I had that beating number five villanova and that was tough. Pick for me. Villanova's got a couple injuries Their point guard was chris. Gillespie he's out with for the season with. I think in acl tear so they're missing couple of key players and i think that's prime opportunity for an upset. Let's see who else did i have by the way i four starring tonight. It is super weird. That's not going to be at. Ud arena but everything's in indiana. Indiana farmers benchers life hosting some. I think indiana us cut some all of its in the hoosier state is basically what i'm saying i wanted to go. Hi over virginia. Because hey the cavaliers did fall to unbc unbc. I think that's what it is. I'll find him on twitter. There's still you know one of the funniest accounts out there. But then i thought no. I think tony bad's going to have his team. Ready to go against the bobcats. Not saying that's not going to be an easy battle. No but i had virginia going over. I also had whereas it on this brackets technically not an upset but i did have loyal chicago. Getting over georgia tech. I think the ramblers they've done so many great things since leaving the horizon league for the missouri valley. I mentioned it on tom. Green's podcast which by the way you listen to now find it on my twitter at the league wwl in you can listen to them from there. I mentioned on that podcast would loyola was in the horizon. League did really do much but now in the missouri valley. They've been competitive. They've been consistent and they've been really good so i like seeing that it's just too bad. It didn't happen in horizon league. Maybe it'd be a multi bid league. But i digress. So technically not an upset. I all said wisconsin over north carolina which is nine over eight. I i just think the last few years have been the last. Few seasons have been rougher. Unc i know roy williams coach not taking away from them. But i do have wisconsin. Edging out the tar heels and i think that's really all the upsets when i fill out the bracket i realized that i did have all four number one seeds still alive and i was like crap. It's not trying to look like that at all. I fill out brackets total. I think a winning the national championship in one and michigan winning the ever want i. I do think the national championship will come from that. Final four battle. But who's to win it. Who's to say that's not say the baylor in illinois are slouches. But that's what i have so that's a little bit about march madness bracket i'm not going to bore you with all the details. I don't really have a lot of upsets to talk about. But i can tell you. When i was working the dayton baseball game when we were filling out brackets just for fun The a lot of people were calling me crazy. For or roberts. Beating that team in columbus. Ohio or roberts has been a solid mid major program in the summit league. I think they can do it. So we'll see but yes march madness now. I mentioned that. There's no southwest ohio teams to talk about door you however there is one team that did make the nit. And that would be your dayton flyers the dayton flyers of the season. they'll take on the top seed memphis tigers team that really balanced strong in the afc. You know i. I was surprised. I'll be honest with you. I was surprised. Because the flyers losses to fordham saint joseph's and lasalle those teams ended up finishing bottom of the eight ten table now granted dayton did have a couple of great wins including knocking off regular season champions and the eight ten tournament winner. Saint bonaventure at saint bonaventure. But i mean. Yeah i mean. It's it's heartbreaking to think that dayton had a shots i at least had dayton going to the final four last year whereas you know this year. Yeah it's a little disappointing. I mean but still tournament to win. And i think dayton flyers can do it but they do have a tough customer in the memphis. Tigers is nice for jalen crutcher and the seniors a shot to play in the playoffs before they leave you. D if they are leaving you d. I should say this corona virus. I think seniors can stay one more year. Look i think most of this will be taken place in texas by most. I mean all of it. The championship will be held at the american center. In frisco texas dayton's game will be in denton. Texas at the was it say the u. n. t. coliseum home of the mean green so on the left side of the bracket you have colorado state and memphis as your top seeds. The rams will get the buffalo bulls davidson. We'll take on. Nc state two and three winner of that game gets the winner of colorado state buffalo. If dayton moves on against memphis they'll take on the winner of boise state or smu on the other side of the bracket you have a couple more eight ten teams. I think there's four eight hundred team state in davidson st louis and richman. Which by the way richmond has defeated toledo by ten last night. So try see also saint. Mary's western kentucky played last night too but richmond. The two seat knocked off the three seat toledo rockets and they'll get the winner of number one. St louis number four mississippi state on the bottom side the right side of the bracket you have number to saint. Mary's against number three western kentucky again. They played last night. I don't have a final score for you. At number one old miss going against number four louisiana tech the nit goes on until march twenty eighth in the championship will be played at noon on. Espn the third place game is actually after the championship game. That doesn't make a lot of sense. Why would you put the third place game last. Never mind that's your. Nit in the dayton flyers will represent southwest ohio. There is one more tournament to talk about the twenty twenty one college basketball invitational which only has eight teams and no there is no local teams. The closest team would be bowling green and they have stetson. Coastal carolina has bryant. Longwood has pepperdine and bellman brand. New division fit in louisville kentucky. You might know them as a team that plays out of freedom hall now they got army. All these games are on flow sports meaning pay per view per month. I believe and starts march twenty second. Now i'm not the one that likes to make excuses. I mean if rights stayed didn't blow a twenty. Yeah we have to talk about eventually right. Stay blew at twenty four point lead with seven minutes to go and lawson. Ot and the semi final game in the horizon league tournament to milwaukee which coming into that tournament. i thought who milwaukee's gonna give us a good battle. I mean i was surprised. Right states swept both those games. But panthers did a nice job taking that game away from right states i. I'm just disappointed. That right state didn't get an offer. I t's not going with the automatic bids if you win your regular season title. But don't get the tournament title too. But i i think that's a shame right. State was ranked so high and such a great year ended on a sour note. Like that just out loud. Love does come back but now it's up to him. I mean if he thinks that no year right stable doom good. That's great if not then definitely a heck of a career leading rebounder. The most wins for an athlete individual in history of right state. So yeah. I have a little sad. That right state didn't get into the tournament. But i am happy to see the dayton flyers fight on for another tournament no cincinnati xavier and. I think that's the first time since the seventies since that happened. It's been awhile since they had a rough season and one time was last in the afc. But the way they came back without keith williams in the semifinal game against wichita state to knock off the top seeded shockers mean that that's heart and soul. I don't think i'll forget that fight. Then houston comes in steamrolls. You see again. Houston's got a really good squad. They have cleveland state in their march madness battle by the way which i have the cougars winning. I know i'd like to see the vikings pull off an upset. But i just i don't see it happening cleveland. State's been really strong since you know being outscored forty nothing one span against ohio. But as i see the vikings in the tournament however yeah just now of you see facing somebody. Athletes transfer going into the transfer portal man. I have no idea. I think there's what four scholarship players. I hope coach brennan gets the ship rights for next season. Save your on the other hand. What a great start the had before biggies play and then it kinda fell apart from the muskateers which again they control their own destiny and just blew it in their big east tournament game. So yeah. it's it's rough to not talk about. Southwest ohio teams in these tournaments with the exception dayton but it is what it is march madness. It's time for basketball baby. You know what's back in dayton and cincinnati. Ohio college baseball and softball baby. Okay stop making that reference. Yes college baseball and softball have had home games in the southwest ohio region. And it's time to talk about them. We'll start with the wright. State raiders remember. Ws you no longer carry softball. Hopefully though bring it back soon but let's talk about the raider gang eight. Oh start and horizon league play. Just there's been one close game. One and the raiders have looked dominant since then. The raiders have swept four games against northern kentucky and youngstown. State both of those series at home initiate stadium and now a true test awaits in chicago as the raiders make the way to the university of illinois at chicago. The flames and the raiders start their series tomorrow march nineteenth at four zero five doubleheader saturday single game sunday all in the afternoon and saturday and sundays offerings will be on. Espn plus for those that. Want to catch it raiders. Eight and five overall again. Start off the season with series at number to vanderbilt and number twenty three alabama did not pick up a win in either of those games although the series at alabama yes it was a sweet but very very close games at the biggest win for the crimson tide was eight to four whereas vanderbilt had their way in the first game against right state fourteen to one. But the raiders lost one. Oh to vanderbilt and to alabama the close out the series. So like i said. I know i mentioned this before. Where law people saying rip right state. Feel bad for the raiders. No raiders wanted competition. They got it. And i think they played quite well was just the one blowout loss. Get really hate on that definitely. I can't really say anything about that either. As let's check out the horizon league standings in baseball now. The horizon league standings. I've been keeping tabs on it. Wehrley has the records wrong for wright's state. in fact it says that right stay. Naugatuck played five times which stock correct. They fix good. The raiders. eight. Nope second-place uic milwaukee to end to and fact. It looks like milwaukee's first wins of the season came against you. I see the flames have lost two in a row. Darva kentucky three and five. They took the series three out of four against oakland youngstown. State three and five. They were swept by right state on the road. Oakland one in three and purdue fort wayne one in three and that's your standing seven teams playing baseball in the horizon league. So right now. Right state swept n. k. u. in youngstown state at home and you i see awaits them on the road now. Let's talk actually real quick out of curiosity. let's talk about these standings in softball. Yes right state doesn't offer the sport anymore. But currently oakland leads the horizon league three and one youngstown state. Green bay robert. Boris detroit mercy. Cleveland state produce far wayne kentucky to and to a. Up one in three. I know it's early. I know that's one series because we're doing four game series now for conference play. I know it's early. But never have i seen so many teams tied cut to into that is crazy. And i i think right state would have had a great year in softball. And it's a tough decision. I know that you know wasn't one that celebrator sports. They'll show everyone but let's talk about college baseball at ud. And i have seen a lot of games at ud. The flyers are three and eleven. They were recently. Swept at home by north dakota state a team that looked really good. Pitching wise hitting wise. Just that's a complete team in the summit league. They're picked to finish third. I think oral roberts was picked to win or they were down by a vote for second place. In the summit lead the flyers they were swept at south carolina. I think their right number eighteen and they dropped two out of three at campbell. A good big south team. They split the series at home against ten to one to open up home plate lost in a seven inning doubleheader to oakland five to three in two to one that beats the golden grizzlies in walk off. Fashion has designated hitter. Alex bregman headey high bouncers shortstop with no chance to throw out the runner at home in the flyers took that since then the flyers dropped the series to north dakota state. Five to one nine two one four to three and nine to three. So what's next for you. D in the fly boys while a four-game series at home against central michigan. And i think the chippewas are having a pretty good season thus far. They have former oakland. Golden grizzly in mario Mileti who was a great player for the golden grizzlies. Now he's put the chippewas. The series begins. Friday march nineteenth at three double header saturday starting at noon and a single game sunday at one o'clock now before you ask at. Ud no it's not general mission. You have to be part of the players past less meaning they have to name you in order to get into waterfield at a. Es ohio stadium man. That's so weird thing. As ohio we still live in a world without dp and l. What is yes. I know deep emails still paying their now. As ohio we still have electricity. We haven't had to go back to fire very weird if i had to do that for podcast but never mind so. That's your next series at home. Eight ten play won't begin until next month. When the flyers visit davidson april ninth tenth and eleventh for four now seven. I wanted to share about the dayton flyers. Baseball team. the fact that they're getting a chance to play a air ballpark. That is awesome. I really comp to announce their yes. I know i announced that ballpark. Before but it to see the dayton flyers and get to announce them. I'm really excited to see these games. This'll be the first ever nighttime dayton flyers baseball game that i've done which is a home game for your d. I'm not counting the ones. I've right state because again. Not home game for you. Deep flyers will get george mason university april sixteenth. At daya ballpark at seven pm enable twenty four. It will be an early morning. The double header against saint louis april twenty. Four ten one. Yeah slough in town and you get to host matt dayton's premier ballpark which is really awesome. I wonder if saint louis is a chance to play at busch stadium. That's us question. That's not me poking fun at slu. Spoken fun at slow. I would just say hey. Remember when you film travis for your head coach. Men's basketball rolling down a hill for no reason he. Yeah that's fun. But i can't wait. Mean three games at deir ballpark. You visit dry. Skews me dragons baseball on twitter and there's a link to get to ticket master. Use promo code you d and you can come in. Watch that game. I think the general public's allowed as long as you get your tickets that way and yeah. I think they'll be a good opportunity to catch your fly. Boys against george mason and saint louis so the standings in the tent looks something like this as we pull them up real quick and we swap over to softball because yesterday dayton flyers our foreign aid on the season. I'm not sure if they played any home matches yet. Actually i think they have. But let's talk about standings. I so far. There is baseball. Norfolk baseball south. What that's new so in the ten. There's baseball north standings and baseball south standings and there's only two teams with conference records thus far lasalle and george mason above one in one to lead the north and the south respectively south six thousand six st joseph's for no fordham seven and one fordham picked to were. They picked to win the eight ten or the second one of the rams has picked first. Let's say that. Fordham seventy one rhode island eight and five umass four and three saint bonaventure yet to play and baseball south. George mason two and six richmond and five and three. Vcu nine and seven. George washington five and five davidson. Six and eight. Saint louis foreign twelve in dayton three and eleven and that's her standings in the ten again. That's a big shock. Seeing baseball north baseball south that'd be interesting to see what the championship looks. Like an actually. Go back and pull up that tab. But first let's talk about dayton flyers softball foreign eights owen. One at home. The one home match was a loss to bowling. Green sixty five was supposed to be a doubleheader but they start that around five thirty and it was suspended due to darkness so there you go flyers currently job four in a row at the mt u. invitational beat illinois state to open up play then fell to middle tennessee. North dakota state. Illinois state and middle tennessee wants again. What's next for the flyers softball team or whatever they go by fly. Girls made the baseball teams to fly. Boys makes sense. I don't know the flyers will be at kentucky and then back home march twenty four wednesday at two against the miami redhawks for one and then eight. Ten place starts next week. Ed at home against saint bonaventure spoke the championship. Hopefully it doesn't take me to like last year's where got cancelled up bartsch twice seven twenty nine th twenty twenty one baseball championship. It's going to be at the campus of the highest seed location to be determined at all these will be streamed on. Espn plus so there you go. The atend championship will be a fourteen brackets so pretty much. The top to the north and the south will play. That's what i'm guessing. Yeah normally it's top eight butts cova so there you go. Let's go back to the softball standings in the eight. Ten loads vary slowly and this one's got softball central softball north dayton's in the central george mason currently leading all two conference record. They beat saint bonaventure in both games and the patriots defeated seven zero. George washington eight and six saint louis five and nine dayton four eight and saint bonaventure at o. And four in softball north fordham. Six thousand three saint joseph's five and five umass. Oh and to lasalle and three and rhode island. Oh and nine now. It's time to talk about miami. Red hawks baseball and softball. Let's get some action and move over to the redhawks sites and this is going to be the second last softball team. We talk about remember since savior. Do not feel the sport. Shame softballs a lot of fun. We'll start with softball. Actually for the red hawks. In the mac and for the redhawks again they're supposed to be at. Ud soon by emi seven and six overall and no conference games yet. Drop the series at mississippi states split at tennessee swept georgia tech on the road. Loss at georgia lost set without. Excuse me one at georgia state lost at kennesaw state and so far. No home games yet for the redhawks for that scheduled to change this weekend as western michigan university comes in for four. And then the flyers. Welcome in you. But then back at home for miami softball though hosts central state for four and then hosting eastern kentucky for two to close out the month of march standings and softball look like this toledo six thousand five miami seven six bowling green eight and seven ohio four and five ball state six and nine northern illinois. Five and eight western michigan four nine kent state three in ten central michigan two and seven buffalo tune. Eleven akron one and eleven. So let's move over to baseball now. And the mac redhawks should have another great squad. Great start last year and squashed by cova. Of course do the standings. I currently akron foreign one. Not sure of that. One loss is gets whittenberg because wittenberg did beat akron on the road. Yes it is. That's the one loss and so far. Try mercy. Hurst is d one score not not one games yet for accurate. But that's gonna change. As this weekend. These zips will host eastern michigan. Why talk about akron baseball while it's because of the fact. That's it's chris. Sabo leading the charge. For the zips and the resurgence of akron baseball. So that's why i did that. Akron one kent state four and three miami seven six such biscuit to and to having the you. Ud tomorrow ball state. Six and seven eastern michigan four and five ohio one to bowling green two and seventy a nine northern illinois. One nine in western michigan is. Oh and three for the red sox. They're listed at seven seven not seven and six like the standings have it. They've lost two in a row. Have the hawks. And that was a series loss at memphis took down the tigers nine. Nothing in the first game but dropped the next two five to two and four to two toledo flies into mckee field at hayden park for four and then for four games on the campus of miami. You before taking off to visit eastern michigan again for four. We're going to talk about the kentucky. I mentioned softball. And the norse were one of many. What of like ten teams tied at two and two. But talk about the norse program for a little bit. I for softball really. I missed that series of rights state at kentucky softball. Miss the baseball series two however there is always the chance to see rights. They go down narva kentucky. It's not that far bound our maybe so far for the north softball program. They split the series with the green bay phoenix at home. The north won the first game. One nothing lost the next game one. Nothing beat the phoenix. The first game of saturday's doubleheader three to two loss in next one four to three so the north will take to the road to visit oakland for four and that visiting youngstown state for two for coming back home to take odd cleveland state for four. That is weird. That series at youngstown state is to only but then you have youngstown. State coming in for four is that horizon league. Ans- that's right link. So there you go. So that's norfolk kentucky softball. They're splitting series at home against green bay for baseball. I mentioned the north fell right state in four but then took the series at home against in three best of three. I should say what's next for the north milwaukee at home should be a very good series. Todd is lan announced before the series right state. This will be his last season. He's in his twenty first and final season leading the north. So it'll be interesting to see the coaching. The coaching search looks like four n que. You really exciting to see what they do. So north. Have milwaukee at home this week and that off next weekend to start off april. At purdue for wayne purdue fort wayne's first series was against youngstown state and was at defiance high school. I don't know why it was at defiance high school but it was. So that is your look at nova kentucky baseball and softball's we make the jump back up to cincinnati to talk you see and xavier first up. We'll talk about s- the american athletic conference in the cincinnati. Bearcats baseball squad remember no softball for either the cincinnati institutions but for cincinnati. They're six and seven on the year winners of three in a row and the next series. Well it won't be a american and american athletic conference series. It will be the skyline chili slam. Thaad have both teams have wrestling. Be a great name for it. No it's across town. Chewed out the showdown between xavier and cincinnati. First game will be at the uc baseball stadium. Friday at four. Then the series moves over for two at xavier at hayden field saturday to sunday of one and back over to you see monday at four. It'll be the musketeers. And the bearcats for four and swapping sites in the middle after that for cincinnati. It'll be a series. Three game series against st louis a game against louisville in a place starts at ecu. Let's look at the baseball standings in the american athletic conference shouldn't be any conference games in a no there isn't i can tell you though. East carolina is on top of the afc at thirteen and three pretty good pirates baseball program. There houston tenants. Six wichita state seven five. I believe they're still led by. Which is all state alum. And former cleveland indians and seattle mariners. Skipper and eric wedge to lay nine and seven south florida's seven and seven cincinnati and memphis. Six and seven. Ucf seven and nine more standings. Why did you lie to me. I thought there was more standings and now we go to big east baseball. Standings and load up go xavier's website. I already told you. The opponent for the musketeers will be at cincinnati at home for the next two games and back at you see but to tell you about the musketeer season. Three and seven thus far for xavier. Baseball and the musketeers has dropped four in a row at a sweep. Nope excuse me while. Yes. it is a sweep in the hands of baylor in waco texas and then to close off the series up wolfert. The market tears fell seven three eleven to four ten. Nothing at baylor as muskateers. Now prepare for battle against cincinnati. What's next for the musketeers. After you see well next weekend. The xavier team moves to evansville and then to open up april. It's the battle of xavier and dayton. Yes i know. You want to see that men's basketball but can't wait. Xavier will host dayton on april fools day than april second and then the flyers will walk them in xavier. Saturday april third for double header. Starting at noon. Look at the roster. It's been a while since. I've seen xavier baseball so the roster is probably completely different but it will be nice to see again. Billy o'connor took over as head. Coach of xavier baseball wants scott. Gugans make the jump to uc. So it'd be nice to see dayton and xavier. Get it on the diamond. Your standings in the big east again. No conference games yet. Georgetown yet to place saint. John's seventy three villanova foreign to creighton foreign three butler too and two seton hall and xavier three and seven and yukon foreign ten and that closes off d one college. Baseball cannot wait for the season to continue on here in southwest ohio. And that will do it. That is about three weeks worth and still in our man. I have no idea how these last long again. For the three-week interruption. Although i guarantee there's still more local sports in this podcast than what that show gives you in dayton. I can almost guarantee also actually that's not it. There's one more topic and it's free sits. it's now it's a cincinnati bengals in free agency and to file a close out episode two. Oh six time talk about something. That's been happening this week. Nfl free agency the free agent chase for the bengals. Now if you're cincinnati bengals fan. What's the one thing you want. Fixed the top thing. You want fixed offensive line right while. Unfortunately i don't have any news for you. Of course with my luck we will have offensive linemen signing with the bengals. Would i upload this episode. yeah i could add a segment on. But now but i will tell you. Some of the moves that the bengals are making riley. Ref- is visiting. The bengals is formerly of the minnesota. Vikings i think that'd be very nice. Pickup bengals signed former cleveland brown. And larry gun joe by leave. That's how you say that. A major splash in the expense of their in state rivals. A standout defensive linemen which is another thing. The bengals really need to work on both lines. One year deal and more help for the defense for cincinnati. Which yes i know. Offensive line protects borough but that defense while alright had a lot of shreds hair on it so third round. Pick by cleveland and twenty seventeen played college football at charlotte high level production and athleticism made him a day. Two pick sixty games played with the browns forty seven starts registered fourteen and a half sacks one hundred and eight solo tackles and twenty nine tackles for loss with eleven those sex coming in two thousand eighteen and twenty nineteen turning twenty seven years old never became a consistent force for the browns. But i think these additions in the defense. There's no excuse for defensive coordinator now you know what. The signs of the bengals are making defense. Deavere do better or hit the road for twenty twenty two. Now there's rumors. That's john joe by by by not sharp butts is good friends with gene-o atkins who still on the bengals roster for now so. Gino might be stick another year with the signing. Maybe a friend's work together on defensive side. So that's a good sighting mike. Thomas has been reassigned wide receiver at a two touchdowns last season with the bengals but bad debt. So look at the other. Signings are still tight ends and of lyman available. But i think the biggest signing has been mike helton of formerly the pittsburgh steelers quarterback and the bengals have lost a couple of. There's i think jackson left for washington. I think i could. Just look at my twitter timeline. Can i so. Mike helton moving over from pittsburgh cincinnati again. Taken some free agents from afc north foes. I like it. Ben baby who writes for the bengals on. Espn also does boxing. Match that the bengals free agencies shaping up a lot like last year where didn't do much day y day. Two's when the moneybags flew out for reader. And wayne's hopefully they will contribute more this year and avoid the injury bug but trey hendrickson was the first free agent signing cincinnati replacing carl lawson with while the nfl leaders and sax last season. So i think that was a pretty good sighting. There and i think is value were were they would have paid lawson for his. You know i think. The value speaks for itself there to adobe a was wuzzy formerly of the dallas cowboys three year deal. Cincinnati another cornerback as cincinnati like the former second rounders athleticism and consistency consistency. Who love that word mentioned. Mike helton already while the top cornerbacks in the free agent market. I i still hope that the bengals look through offensive linemen and signed one or two or a couple today but why seeing the bengals are getting some free agents in and i like that now will the free agents how. 'bout that's another thing to see. We gotta wait a little bit until that happens. So this is from blake jewel. Nfl covers the bengals for sports illustrated. Now in all angles. It's while the sources that have been using today along with cincy jungle tweets at three. Am so i'm just talking to myself here. But reef and golladay and sewell round one impacter jones round two on top of what the bengals have already done would be damned there a off season. That's the great a not a or pay but you know i still think the bengals have a good shot of getting golladay. Which by the way that was on the first take which scrapped but the bengals might have kenny. Golladay in their sights bagels have offered him a one year deal and the new york giants for he's visiting at the moment have often been a multi year deal. Now that might sell like a no brainer. Take the multi year deal get consistency get money. However wouldn't it be better to get a year deal. Show what you can do in cincinnati. Take the higher paid money per year and then offer your services again in two thousand and twenty two who knows i think cincinnati could land golladay. It just really depends how big of a contract since they offered compared to the giants if the giants give them no. Let's say one hundred mil and five years. Be twenty mil. The bagels offer like twenty one for one year. Then you know take the twenty one and then see what you can do and twenty twenty two now golladay time last year. Eleven games. In fact. All i played five because of his hamstring injury and i think hip injury to but back to back thousand yard games fact evac thousand games. That'd be impressive. Back to back thousand yard seasons in two thousand eighteen twenty nineteen for the detroit lions so definitely interesting. It'd be an interesting addition to the receive. Record led by tyler. Boyd and t higgins. I think that's three gray receivers. They're that stuff to cover. If you're at a secondary so yeah like that. There's also a reciting by the bengals backing up joe mixon and really shining bright towards the end of the season. Some ozzy p ride at believe. He resigned for two years doubt. Yes two more years for p. Right he spent the last two years in cincinnati. Two year deal fifth year player. Twenty twenty one for round pick by the washington football team back in two thousand seventeen also played with joe mixing at oklahoma. You with the fellow bengals running back. So if makes it can healthy p ryan really. Nice rb two in there. You got yourself a nice rb. One rb to battle out of. It's better than the rb. One two combo that the brown savon chubb and hunt. But i think it's right up there. I think if vixen has an offensive line to run through with pollock coming back fixing the line i think nixon's due to have a good year in p. Rhines there to help clean up when he needs. Twenty twenty p ryan played in all sixteen games rush for three hundred one yards three touchdowns on sixty three carries p rushed for ninety five yards and two touchdowns against houston texans week. Sixteen so no touchdowns for p. ride but it's still you know like. I said he did a better job. Towards the end of the season now with nixon and p rhyme this also brings up a good point about giovanni bernard one year on bernard's contracts left for four million me. That's a pretty stacked running back corps. You know that'd on three. I believe but i like what the bengals are doing. I still want to see more work in the offensive line. But i'm not upset at the moment though. The bangles aren't getting tuning. He signed a five year deal with kansas city. At yeah i wanted to come to cincinnati. It'd be a great homecoming. And i think he'd do a great job on the line but there's more offensive linemen out there as long as they're better than bobby heart which. I don't really think there's a lot that isn't there the bobby hard this point. It's still a good shot for the bengals to be competitive for twenty twenty one. I'm not seeing a to fourteen. I'm not seen another five eleven to one last year. I've not seen that. What i'm seeing is a bagel steam. That'd be more competitive albie a lot fun to watch so let's look at the five winners and losers for the first wave of bengals free agency still more work to be done. But who's benefited. I mentioned the dc lew abbott ruto. He's got dj reader. Trae wayne's now hendrickson belle. A woozy mike. Helton bengals went defense. I again at really if an aroma can't produce this year i think he's out the door. After this season that the names i read off. They can avoid injury. That's pretty nice defense. Defensive line still needs work. But i just i don't think defense is going to be a crutch but the bengals can lean on. I just don't trae wayne's also listed as a winner but with hilton hosie that a company in the secondary and wayne's is the highest paid cornerback on the team now going number one ford and has a promising supported guests xavier. Su'a filo and bobby hearts are winners because emphasis on defense means the offensive line has not been touched. I still think the bengals touch on that today. Maybe tomorrow but that draft still coming around i. I can't see the bengals. Just say oh. Yeah the offense great. I can't see it. all in tate. Also listed as a winner john ross. The third moved on with the new york giants which of that deal that they gave not bad. That see what ross can do when healthy very speedy but just in workout cincinnati. Which stuff happens like that. Aj green now in arizona. Karnal which. I think. I mentioned august. I take i love the fact that green always cared himself of class represented cincinnati. So well i broke my heart. When he got injured in dayton. Now there's a lot of media members down south so do bird welcome stadium to the ground like now it happens but odd tasteless says a winner right now the unofficial next man up higgins and boyd i figure even with golladay citing. He'll be a wide receiver in that piece. So it'll be a nice core of wide receivers who lost borough and mixing did again the offensive line. This is from the first day my new the offensive line hasn't been touched yet. But i think frank pollack also on that point to mackenzie alexander. He's yet to find another team and sparring. Starting spot was just given to a former divisional. It could be tough. Slot corners on the open market but alexander. Put some solid play on tape. Last year he'll get shot elsewhere. Just don't know where or when darius phillips he's even compete for a starting job or already back as cornerback number four with the cash given to the new signees. It's safe safe. Phillips is going to be a spot starter for the coming season which is ideal for the defense. But for darius phillips. It's going to have to keep battling for snaps in his fourth year. That's your winners and losers again. Written on cincy jungle dot com by john sheeran. John underscores chevron on twitter. But so far. There's an article saying that shawn o'hara thinks juju smith schuster should signed with the bengals. Now you know about juju. Smith schuster dancing on the logos. You don't dance on the logos. Full stop dancing is fine. That's fine always liked juju. He always seemed like you know a good guy but the dancing. The logo is just take that somewhere else. you wanna. Why von bell gave you such a leading on monday night football. It's probably because of that. That hit that coughed up the ball. And since they end up winning with ryan finley. Yeah remember that steeler fans. I do just wish we could beat the cleveland browns. At least once both games were close. I'll give you that. But let's see what twenty twenty one brings. If smith schuster sides with the bengals. I mean that's a nice signing to if golladay does pick the giants over cincinnati. But i don't know. I should also mention mike. Thomas gets another one year deal with. Cincinnati is wide receiver five. I believe there's an article written this. Morning is the end near for bobby hearts. He's look like you could be a cap casualty remember. He had that three year contract long ago. Jim turner never lost faith. Bobby heart but remember is not here anymore. So he mentioned in september with sports illustrated out all my players. Bobby hardest the most underappreciated player the most picked on player by everybody in the media to whoever wants to talk football You sure about that you sure about that. Turner the way he just slid believe. It was at miami. The way just slid open like a sliding door to let that sac. Forget it was allen or finley wasn't burrow burrow This point no. No no no no no dow course if it does become a free agent were gets cut by the cap you know. Watch him grow his game like eric. Flowers did once again the new york giants. He was pretty fine but they got frank pollack. Now has the opportunity to run that line and going through the article again mentioning that hearts for a season with the bengals nothing short of terrible allowing ten sacks committing eleven penalties and according to pro football focus fishing a great of fifty seven point one. I don't know if they go by the hundred grade scale. But that's enough. That's no good. The grade raised by point five and twenty nineteen allowing six sacks seven penalties last year finishing with four sacks allowed and three penalties. Apparently his overall gray was higher than kevin zeitler. Who signed elsewhere. Already signed baltimore. That's right site with baltimore. Those another name. That bagels fans are running back. But it didn't happen. So bobby. hart no surprise not really a fan favorite in cincinnati. But you know maybe. Maybe he gets better. I don't know so. Let's see if there's any more news before we site off like i said riley rafe visiting the bengals that'd be an nice signing that line and like i said outside the lack of offensive line signings i. I like what the bengals have done. I think that there is hope. I don't see the bengals going. So far below five hundred. I know there's a lot bengals fans i've already said. Oh it's gonna be a fly of twelve seasons like okay. What proof do you have on that. But bengals assigning people and it's looking interesting so definitely will talk more about this next week when free agents chases finished the bengals spending money again if it helps them out. That's to be determined later. I will say you know. I really want the joe burrow. Come back there. Is someone in the area. That's had the audacity to share pictures. Borough getting hurt and celebrating it. Because you know the bengals haven't done anything with the offensive line so you know there's that that's classy good on you for that. I guess and people have called him out on it. Which thank you because of the fact that you know just because you don't like the bengals doesn't mean you have the basham every time. Yes i know. Bengals should be getting offensive line. Help and i think they will do it. But there's no reason to you know share pictures of borough getting her. What what is your problem so with that little nice bomb drop. Now do it. That's episode two. Oh six we cover a lot of local sports. Probably a lot more than what's been on that radio show in the past three weeks. I will go ahead and mention from here until june twelfth when we get everything settled in the new place actress june twelfth. When we move to the new place if there are breaks in this podcast. I'm not quitting. I'm here to stay. I'm here to prove that you know. I'm hearing improved employers that not hiring me and not you know telling me why not hired is a mistake so definitely looking. Forward to continuing this podcast. Hopefully there won't be that long of a break again but like i said getting closer to time. It's gonna be hectic. I started broadcasting champion city. And the king's late may dragon start up in may and man. I can't wait i. I work a very busy spring. But it's gonna be a great spring. So i'm i'm happy. Stay busy but just to let you know if there is a break. I'm not quitting the podcast. It's just that i have to get ready for this new move. Unfortunately i don't think there's going to be a space for me to have a podcasting room in my own but it's two floors several rooms. I got plenty of places to record. And i'm looking forward to more space so now do it episode two. Oh six this isn't dayton radio. It's on the local sydney sports podcast. And it's great to be back talking. Cincinnati dayton sports review. Catch you up on two of seven where we crown boys basketball girls basketball ice hockey state champions and talk about more happening in southwest ohio. Until thank you. 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Hockey's Off to State, Thinking of Baseball

The Cincinnati and Dayton Sports Podcast

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Hockey's Off to State, Thinking of Baseball

"The covering sports in the mid west. It's the mid west sports network and wfan dot net zero two four the cincinnati dayton sports. Podcast where there's local sports news for you. We start off with the hockey conference champs from the previous weekend then we move onto to state versus dayton and no. We're not just talking about if those two schools should play. Then we move onto college basketball. As march madness lurks nearby and then warmer thoughts asked the twenty twenty one schedules for the dayton dragons and the champion city kings have been released a new team in cincinnati plus a new broadcaster for the cincinnati reds. Here that on dayton radio you'll hear it here on the local sunday sports podcast episode two four walk to the cincinnati and dayton sports podcast with lee. Wmo and this is a weekly audio podcast. That covers all sports in dayton and cincinnati ohio and the surrounding areas from northern kentucky and the ohio river up to lima in allen. County from richmond indiana and the surrounding whitewater valley region to madison county and surrounding areas. If you want local sports this is your source to find your favorite way of listening to this podcast as well as visiting the t public in red bubble shops and find the latest episodes. Please visit syndey. Pod dot com. This opening was created with the splash app. And now it's time for another episode with your host. Lee w malan. This is episode two four. Little news on the podcast. Now being recorded fully with hindenburg. It's a program that tried now for three episodes and have deeply enjoyed the features. It's geared towards broadcasters and journalists so no more dastardly and no more old way of getting the sound the not sound like dirt so definitely looking forward seeing what this program didn't do nosso looking forward to just talk and nothing but ohio state and what a blockbuster trade is an and sticking with the hardened trade for months on end just kidding. We're talking local sports and no no software. Change is going to change that but now you know in case the quality sounds a little bit better. It does give me a better opportunity to put in you. Know fadeaways segues and skip to next topic so hopefully it will sound a lot. Better dot just the sound quality but the flow of the podcast episodes. At least that's what my hope is. It could just be me you know now. I don't think it's just me so there we go. Let's begin episode before we hit the ice to talk about hockey conference tournaments normally the last step to the state play-offs by normally i mean it is the last step towards the playoffs. Everyone in the state of ohio gets in this state playoffs for ice hockey. There's only about eighty eighty six teams in the state that are from high schools. So we're gonna start with the capital hockey conference. I we will talk about the junior. Varsity division both cincinnati squads made it into the semis and both those cincinnati squads had really nice seasons but the mullahs crusaders. Were on the short end of the stick to the olatunji liberty patriots three to nothing and saint and the bombers the top seeded bombers in the junior. Varsity division fell just short to upper arlington and for the championship. Oland tain-jy liberty won in a not against upper arlington two to one making the patriots of olatunji liberty. The jv blue jackets cup champions and we talk about the varsity side of things. Remember the blue jackets cup. Varsity has championed site and a constellation champion. Sipe it just depends how well you do in the regular season if you're in the blue division. You're playing for the constellation championship. If you're in the red or the first two finishers in the white division then you have yourselves. I spot in the top champion bracket. Let's begin with the constellation championship. It's the saint xavier bombers as the top seed. No i'm sorry. The second highest seed in the constellation brackets. They knock off new albany seven to four to hoist the constellation championship cup. So congrats go out to coach both in the bombers for that success the bombers outscore new albany seven to four in the championship say necks had a bye. They took on worthington kilborn and shut out the wolves. Seven nothing and then battled hard against dublin. Kaufman three two two before setting up the new albany side of things. The eagles in new albany also had a first round bye. They took on saint francis the sales and defeated the stallions. Nine to one with set up the next battle against oland tangent. Who by the way defeated spring borough. Five to two. It was the eagles soaring over the braves of all and tannoudji. Five two and then new albany fell just short in the consolation. Championship bracket to saint xavier. Now we talk about the championship one. Cincinnati area teammate. To the top eight that will be the mullahs crusaders. However they were squashed in the first game against olin tain-jy liberty three two one. Liberty would be best in the next game against upper arlington. Two to one golden bears won it in three overtimes at the ice house and for the championship. another close affair but the top seed saint. Charles cardinals could not take the cup home. It was up arlington the two seed with afford to upset on the cards. And i know what you're thinking. That's no route upset to over. One what would you call it them. So there you go up arlington. I believe this is the second third straight time. They've won the cbj cup. Golden bears have themselves quite the program. None undefeated season like last year. But you know what they got. The season they bowed hard. They got the two seed that tells you how tough the golden bears are saint charles on the other side fantastic season just coming a little short against their ice house. Foes in upper arlington such blue jackets. Cup your winners again. Jv allante angie liberty. Your concentration camps are saint. Xavier and your champions are the upper arlington golden bears. That takes care of the capital hockey conference. Go back to episode two three of you like to hear about the state playoffs in ice hockey. We cover that to an exquisite detail and now we talk about the southwest hockey league tournament which was held primarily at south metro sports but one game did take place at the. Northland is center. And i believe we covered that game mason elder the three seed besting the sixty nine to three so for the championship. It's the number one beaver creek beavers. They up as they take down there. Kettering recreation center foes and three to two and this is something that i mentioned beaver creek and alter definitely the teams you want to be in the swath show just because how much you know beaver creek. They train a lot. They got that military kind of workmanship on them whereas alter great depth and great hockey team. Both coach barry of altern coach government beaver creek should be very proud of their team's bureaucratic defeats alter three to heist the cup last year. The beavers fell short to the wanda leave. That was an eight to one. Finisher for the brave but beaver creek's path. They got a first round bye. They took on troy and defeated the trojans seventy two and the one vs four battle altered took on the mason comments by the white troy. Took down sycamore. Three two one at south metro to move on to the second round or the semi's even whereas mason they took on alter and the knights poured on seven goals against the comments to win by five some the two so again beaver. Creek the champs. Now what does it mean. If you're champ of your of your conference tournament well you get a trophy but in terms of state playoffs. Nothing the because like. I said all the schools in ohio that have ice hockey. They get to play in the playoffs now. This year note two divisions which. That's been a hot button topic. Definitely if you listen to the ohio hockey digest on air podcast. That's a common topic especially for the schools. That might not have the resources that may the ever northern ohio schools do. But you go so. Normally we stick to high school hockey and i don't think that's fair. It's not because no you've hockey is just you know that's just taken away from high schools. No that's not the case. We are going to talk about the dayton stealth. Now the reason why we don't talk. Dayton stealth is just because of the fact. I was broadcast hockey. We didn't really see dayton that much. So unfortunately that's that's the big reason why it's not because i don't wanna talk about dayton stealth on the contrary there part of the local sports scene so they definitely need some airtime. So let's talk about. The dayton stealth came into the varsity side of the cbj cup. Yes there's another columbus blue jackets cup and this is from the ohio scholastic hockey league a little bit. Difference between the os h. l. and high school hockey is if you go that school. That has hockey. You have to play there if you go to a school. That doesn't offer ice hockey. You can play for the dayton stealth so you know. Centerville alter beaver creek troy. Sycamore mason elder sane acts molar those schools that field ice hockey teams. You're not able to go on. An ohio scholastic hockey team or a youth hockey team. We should say now however if you go to a school let's say miami's berg. North mont valley view twin valley south. It'd be nice if we see some hockey fans in west alexandria but who knows you go to a school. That doesn't have ice hockey. There's your option. Some of the differences are instead of going by la rolls. It goes by usa hockey roles which makes sense. I mean your high school students but you're not really playing with a high school team. You get what i'm saying. There i help you. Because that's as clear as i can kind of explain it but dayton stealth there in the ohio scholastic hockey league. You might remember that league being called the greater columbus high school hockey league that tons of letters. Now it's just the highest scholastic hockey league which i love the name g. h. s. c. h. l. dot net. The old league site now just called the o. S. h. l. which is a lot cleaner to say anyway. Going to the varsity side. Things the dayton steph where your top seed and i saw this dayton-style team once before against spring borough real deal. Coaching great players really good offensive attack us very balanced. It's a tough team to slow down and in fat. No one could slow. Down the dayton steph as dayton flies to the cbj cup varsity championship over the hilliard wildcats. Sixty two so congrats go out to dayton. The path the dayton took while they got a first round bye they took on the westerville wildcats war. Cats excuse me. The wildcats are hilliard. Which is different parv columbus anyway. Westerville war cats which i love the name yes three high schools westerville if you follow columbus high school sports but none of the three offer hockey therefore westerville. Has you know you've hockey program. You play in westerville. You could play with the war. Cats also really great color scheme to rag gold. And i think black my favorite color. They're your tastes my very anyway. Westerville defeated the northeast storm. Seventy two to move into the game against dayton and the war katz had little response against dayton's high flying offense it was dayton eleven westerville one on the other side hill. Your took down newark and the generals five to one again probably one of my favorite color schemes and just just all around naming the newark generals course newark. Outside columbus towards the east olive-green something jerseys had stencil like military stencil thoughts. But most new ones. Don't but i dig the name so they they did a nice job with identification there anyway. Hill knocks off newark five to one before newark off prowlers. Six to one believe ph. A is Pinton is at pickering or is it pickering. Can someone let me know on that. Anyway dayton one six two two against hilliard at the ice house to hoist. The cup means dayton scott. A brand new shiny trophy like i said seeing the stealth a couple of times. Yeah absolutely excellent team. And definitely my good friend. Gary extinct coming back to coach. That was nice. Nice talking to him during the season. And we'll tell you in the regular season the stealth while apparently. There's only two games of the stealth plate. I can tell you that is not correct. Let's go to my hockey. Rankings dot com. In the meantime we're going to swing on down to the kentucky hockey league where our good friend jamie angelo. He's head coach of the narva kentucky. Norse again no connection with m. k. u. Which is a shame and k. You could use some hockey. The norseman as they're now called eleven one and one in twenty three games by scoring ninety nine goals and allowing twelve twelve is tied for the lowest with owensboro who's in second place by afghan and ninety nine is twelve better than second-place owensboro so again and k ky. Fantastic offense fantastic. Coaching and kids. That's a hockey team. You need to see some of that really excited me of pulling up the standings in the k hsa shell. There's a couple more teams. Because last time. I checked last year. Was what six something like that new to the kentucky high school hockey league you have the charleston west virginia chiefs who owns the chiefs you have the cincinnati lancers formerly known as the lasalle lancers lasalle high school didn't want ice hockey so got absorbed into the swords. And now it's the cincinnati lancers. And i felt like there was one more i guess. Not so in the league of then northern kentucky and cincinnati. You have the louisville metro team which is not a high school in fact. There's only two high schools that carry the sport in kentucky. You have the evansville thunder which is again not high school in evansville. I can assure you. Even though i know a little bit about evansville they have more than one high school. Promise you have the owensboro rampage play at the sports center. That's a great name for a rink and you're too high school teams. You have by the way the lexington thoroughbreds which was actually a combination of two high school teams in lexington and then they kind of folded into the central kentucky hockey program to high schools. The louisville saint xavier tigers and the trinity shamrocks trading normally comes up and they'll take on centerville sometimes so they're fairly common opponent up here in southwest ohio but now as calm naugatuck or the cincinnati lancers. Because you know they're both in southwest ohio so yeah norse thirteen games played eleven one and one. That one's a time. Owens brown's second place one less game play by the rampage at ten one in one tree ten to and one charleston six and seven evansville six ten lexington five seven and one louisville metro four five and one since lancers three eleven and one and saint xavier one and twelve. So that's your look at the kentucky high school hockey league in case you're wondering about when they're tournament is well. It won't be for some time. Remember this is the state body of ice hockey in kentucky not allow schools have ice hockey and in fact like i mentioned the resort to high schools in louisville trinity and saint xavier somewhere. That's to saint xavier's we talk about on this podcast but that's okay. so where will this tournament beheld. Well march fifth through seventh at owensboro kentucky. The twenty twenty twenty one k. h. s. h. l. state term. It will be held there and ellensburg defend the cup as last year state champions their home rink brunei setup for the rampage other funny story before kovic shut down. Everything of course could talk actually went to play in the nationals. Which by the way something in between high school hockey and youth hockey. There's no really state playoffs and you've hockey because you're not state affiliated instead if you are your winner in the state you get to represent your state in the us nationals. Which is something. The staff have done a couple years back. Narva kentucky's done multiple times. It is a really big honor and best of luck to coach cochon telo and it is pretty nice to see the edge. Ice center is no longer called sports center. That's disappointing maybe it is but so what were we looking at my hockey rankings. They dayton stealth. Let's pull that up here now when you go to my hockey ranking remember there is high school and there. Is you especially in ohio so we watch usa hockey. Which is your dayton stealth your lancers and everything. Dayton only had a year of a thirty five three and two. That's thirty five. Wins three losses and two i assume overtime losses maybe ties yeah That's i say goodyear wouldn't you. I'm curious what the losses were. I feel like they played a very tough team. Sylvania northview in overtime. They're pretty good team nor in toledo culver academies varsity a squad at the henderson ice arena. That's another loss. There was a tie against upper arlington. And now the next opponent for the dayton stealth will be a couple of days eight days from now against the fremont ice bowls at the chiller north. Since ni- swords in the canton akron jets. I think this is when the stealth try to battling gets representation for the nationals. For the state of ohio so yeah pretty. Much dayton stealth fantastic year number one in usa hockey and ohio and number three of all teams in the now. I got a double check. That saint edward. Gold is your top team. They got a twenty two three and two record before you complain. Saint edward hasn't played as many games. Remember it's another difference. usa hockey. You don't have that you know you don't have that restriction whereas in high school hockey you're limited to thirty games on the year play more than you walk the plank now. You can't play more than thirty so there you go. Also saint francis sales out of toledo twenty five three and two. They're second place. Those are two teams. That have the dayton stealth and the steph or ahead of saint ignatius. Who's fifteen eight and four and looking for their fifth straight hockey title. So there is your comprehensive. Look at ice hockey in southwest ohio kentucky and central ohio state playoffs. Start this upcoming weekend for high school teams in ohio. And now it's time to talk right state versus dayton. I know your immediate thought. Oh great this hacks going to talk about it. Why can't anyone just shut up about it. Well because it kind of is a big deal. Let me tell you. Between wright state and dayton it's about on a good day maybe fifteen minutes apart. I mean just separated by thirty five. I ac- think there's no reason why wright state in dayton shouldn't play in everything in fact i m pro you d and right state play in everything and you know what all announce broadcast anything with right stay dayton you can put a stitching team like knitting team together for right stay dayton. I'll broadcast that. You know right state dayton some great rivalries and their. Unfortunately there's a couple that can't be reintroduced this time right state having no softball team. That's out and i pray. That temporary caught but i don't know dayton never had swimming well. My time of falling sports statements never had swimming. Rights states had the program but right state naveh have swimming team. They haven't for a couple of seasons now. So what happened this past week earlier. day in fact right state needed a photo to face since youngstown state wasn't able to come in from northeast ohio. You know all that lovely winter snow and ice. Yes you can make fun of the meteorologist's that said oh we're going to do like twenty billion inches of snow but you know that's a tough job and you oddly can't do it then you know. Give them a little slack. The going off models that change constantly whether it's such a changing. Why am i talking about. Whether i'm sorry anyway. Right stay was supposed to take on youngstown state for two and that couldn't happen. So the raiders wanted an opponent and they got one the dayton flyers. Let me tell you about both these volleyball programs. We'll start with dayton the one team to beat in the atlantic ten really enough in the ten. Not every school has volleyball and fat. I think a little over half do and the rest. Don't it just feels like volleyball doesn't have all the teams involved in it. Which i always thought was weird but whatever yeah coach tim horsemen great guy and also great coach and the dayton flyers just absolute great volleyball program. There's history there and just strong now. We look at the wright state raiders before allie matters tenure started at w. s. couple years here and there were vice. They volleyball was tough but most of the years whereas with alli matters taking all of the program for the first time ever they won the horizon league regular season title last year and got an at large bid back in the playoffs. Which was the first time ever for rights did athletics corn to their social media. Team so yeah. It's an open up program whereas dayton's been strong for a long time now right states getting there so you have to strong programs collide and let me tell you about it and if you're wondering we'll wait you're talking about volleyball. It's february isn't it. I'm not listening to an old episode. Well you're not unless you're listening to it. You know not during february. Twenty twenty one for some reason fall. Sports are played february march and playoffs in april. Just to kind of help get the athletes back on the field back in the court. Volleyball is perfect because it's a sport the needs the court and a precise temperature. Everything's gotta be inside. Let me tell you about soccer. Oh man you gotta be tough to play soccer especially in these conditions. I i applaud all the athletes and soccer especially in northern part of the states. You've got snow that needs to be dealt with. You got cold. I mean just in fact my first scheduled while the second scheduled broadcast i had for right state. Soccer got moved to mason at the wall to wall sports complex to you know. Go inside and play. Unfortunately i didn't get to broadcast that but stuff happens. Anyway the dayton flyers defeated the wright state raiders and this volleyball match three sets the to. You know if you go back really. The only set that dayton dominated was set. One just got off to a great rhythm of right state too big of a hold to climb out if they i think they tied or got within two but dayton fish the rest of the white like i said dayton's a great team historically air strong program whereas right states building on that at seven that the raiders haven't had in quite some time so i hope wright state in dayton play each other year after year after year there is a common component. I haven't talked about as well and the coaching staff right state. I mentioned alley matters the head coach. Dan o'keefe is the assistant well. Let's double check before. I finalize that he was the assistant if he's not there anymore now he's still great. Dan o'keefe was an assistant coach. Or actually let's see assistant. Coach was he video dune inter it was part of tim horsemen staff and allie matters. Got hired o keefe was brought in from. Ud to right state. So that's that's a nice piece. I like thinking about as well. So the flyers one set one twenty five nineteen set three twenty five twenty one and set five fifteen thirteen. This is after right. State was ahead four. I think it was thirteen nine before the flyers finished the job to take the match away from wright state this right states. I lost the raiders. Fall the six one. Ud went through two and one in case you're wondering about like two and one while the flyers took on a double header against saint louis in missouri and they split at apparently the one where saint louis pulled off a big upset of home. That was the only one that counted for a ten records. I get to announce. ud volleyball. I think next. Friday so looking forward to seeing the flyers volleyball team for the first time in years trying think when the last time wright state in dayton played on the volleyball court announced it actually it was during a holiday tournament or fall tournaments trying to think. It's been a couple of years. At least now. I'll go back to my initial thought right staying dayton should play each other in everything they can and hopefully this is the beginning of kind of patching up that relationship. So you know. Maybe we'll we won't get the gem city jam right off the bat. I mean men's basketball. They haven't played since nineteen ninety-seven december ninety seven and schilling was in his first year. Right states and i believe all of our cornell was still at ud before. Brian gregory came along. I'm not hitting that hornets nest. I'm not saying that should be a totally showed. What what i am saying is. Why aren't the flyers raiders playing and everything else. I understand the story of women's basketball but it's been a couple years and both coaching staffs are pretty much gone for both institutions. So why not rekindle. That i love the sea. Dayton steam going gets right states team. I think that'd be real fun to witness i. I don't. I don't know who would win. Honestly i think the be real fun matchup. And i don't i don't see any blowouts now. The counter argument you could offer as but lee isn't that series like dayton forty and right state four. yes but you know rekindle the rivalry. See what you got. That's my take on it. I won't touch on men's basketball too much more. Although it should be played you know i. I hear the arguments again but men's soccer women's soccer. Why aren't they playing. Soccer is a great rivalry. I forget what it is but it's fairly close. Women's soccer is It's not quite the mark women's basketball but it's it's up there for the flyers trying to think what volleyball is. It's been so long as a looked at a media guide. It's like oh these are all the records. i mean baseball. Definitely it's right. State all the way softball. I believe was right. Say to that might have been closer than baseball. But i don't remember tennis. State doesn't feel the sport anymore. So that's another opportunity out golf though battle at the nc our country club. I think they might have there. Would to abou that. That's great. i'd love to talk more about that but the reality is i'm not familiar with gulf. It's the one sport that i probably won't watch as much because it is boring to watch on. Tv let's be real here. But you get what i'm saying. Why aren't the raiders and flyers playing and everything else. Take jesse jim out of the equation. Just have a good local rivalry you know. I think it's time we see red. Blue versus green and gold on the field. Right state versus dayton for the city of dayton. So we talk about right state dayton and right now with covid still affecting everything. We're probably not going to see right. State dayton in college baseball this year. Which is a shame. I hope that next year if things gets normalized we will Hoping for soccer will volleyball. I oh this blooms into something else are it could've just been a one time thing where. Hey now we're just playing once needed team. Thank you very much. Good luck with everything. So that is right say versus dayton surprise that it wasn't just all men's basketball and beating that hornets nest to a pulp. Aren't you and speaking of hoops. It's college basketball time. And we're gonna talk about all six division one programs and southwest ohio in northern taki and we start off with the rights stay raiders. I see nothing better. Start off with and northern kentucky and fact for men's basketball and women's basketball. This is the last regular season weekend before the ahl tournament place. We're gonna start off with women's basketball is yours truly. We'll get to announce right. Stay green bay coming up friday at two and i believe i'll be on streaming somewhere. Espn three which you need a cable subscription or espn plus where you pay about five bucks a month and you can watch pretty much anything. That's on espn. Plus so. The wright state raiders and women's basketball fifteen and three in conference play and fifteen and five overall winners of six straight. I was little worried. When right state was swept at robert morris i thought well play for the highest seed. You can in the tournament. And what do the raiders do and women's basketball turn it around and take the lead on that horizon league mountain so current standings looked like this right state fifteen and three top of up y and three the jaguars green bay twelve and four. That's the next opponent at another center for w asu regard milwaukee thirteen and five. They recently snapped a long losing streak. They dropped the series so nervous kentucky and dropped. The series of right state swept both times. Oakland eleven and seven northern kentucky is six and four and six and nine overall the north. Were actually on top of a six zero record but since then norway kentucky has lost four in a row youngstown state eight and six cleveland state. Seven and seven robert morris. Three and eleven detroit mercy remember. Their season got stopped. And i don't wanna bring topic. Because i was seriously angry after talking about troy mercy one nine. Uic one in eleven and purdue for wayne owen eighteen and twenty overall so right state on top and over kentucky now in sixth place in the horizon league with green bay. Coming in to face the raiders. I mentioned this playoff times. If you want to be the woman you gotta beat the top woman in charge. And that is ben green bay so green bay like i mentioned. I might not be a strong of years. Says it's been in the past for the phoenix. Like mentioned their third place phoenix and four if green bay sweeps that will put him at fourteen informed right stable fall to fifteen and five quite honest. I don't know how this is going to shake out. Thanks to you. Know cova and everything and we'll talk about men's basketball in a minute but last year's let's not look at last year's and say that's going to happen. I don't think the horizon league is interested in splitting the title as talk about men's basketball. Currently cleveland state's got the number one seed in the brackets whereas right states number two but both are tied for first. So yeah figure that one out and if you wonder why cleveland state's got the higher seat or the better seed of the two is because third-place they swept by cleveland state but they split with right states so the vikings have the leg up and that standings for right state to take the title of the regular season championship. The raiders one win splitting be sixteen in four whereas green bay would be thirteen in five. So yeah right. State needs one of those games and you know what green bay's a tough customer. They've always been coached. Sports of has done a great job with the u. w. g. program since stepping on campus for the first time in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. That's when things really started to happen yes. There was a five year gap where was over at the university of michigan. Dot or to thun. It's not funny. Stop it by the way amazon letter. You can stop the xs now. It's been several months. They five years. Stop for borsa. Which was okay not splendiforous. He went back to green bay and phoenix have just been a well oiled machine for right states. They've been strong for the past few years and it's great to see coach katrina mary. Weather's got a great program. And i think right state can win the horizon league. I think they need one win. Let's look at the weekly release and see for nova kentucky. Even they their fo that. I put them at eight and four. Let's look by the way norfolk attack will be visiting oakland for to but walkies at you. I see robert. Morris is Purdue fort wayne the valve newcomers in the green bay's at wright state and cleveland states at youngstown state for the northern ohio flavor. Battle thing so case. You're wondering if the indiana farmers coliseum march eighth and ninth we'll be the basketball championships for women and men's looking through the release trying to see you know situations there are some really nice tidbits. Right states really dominant on the glass. Both men's and women's men's i think was leading the nation whereas women's six rebounds per game about seventeen per game that's outstanding seventh and rebounding margin forfeiting total rebounds. I'd say that's getting done on the glass. And that's a real strong part about basketball as well so so in case you're wondering why there's a big hootenanny about finishing first teams that fisa regular season in the top. Four four and a bye to the quarterfinals on a home game on march. Second with the opportunity to advance to indy from its home floor. The number five c will play the number four seed in the women's quarter-finals teams that finished the regular season. Six through eight will host the first round games on their own campus on the twenty fifth. And yeah so season. The championship will be seated utilizing formula that has league winning percentage strength. The schedule waiting road versus home winds now road winds are pretty important and number of league games played right now. Your brackets looks like this. I think right state's got a nice shot to win the overall number one seed. And there's really no situations which i'm disappointed on honestly. It's like ev. Right states sweeps. Then you know they get it. Which i think. It's pretty obvious the phoenix they've won four straight. They swept turkey at ku and they swept uic at home pretty decisively. I should mention against uic but flames towards the bottom of the table whereas the kentucky series quite close sixty three fifty six sixty to fifty eight. It's pretty well done some of these splits. That green bay has suffered they split against. Up i who's pretty good and women's sports women's soccer women's basketball. I think softball are pretty good. I might be missing remembering volleyball. If i haven't mentioned that. what really hurts the phoenix. So start off conference play. They were swept at home by milwaukee. I haven't seen milwaukee sweep the phoenix. I think since college because it used to be okay. It's either milwaukee or green bay if you beat and then we'll throw your party but it's normally the panthers phoenix so it's going to be the number one seed but things have turned around. Which i i did well. Of course i'm a right state laws so you know i would say that one night scrolling through the schedule real quick. I'm still hoping that there's like every state wins. Then you know they get really. There's nothing so that's my big s right. State can win at least wine against green bay. Then i think the raiders get the regular season title and number one seed. I'd say go for the sweep green bay the make you know even more locked type safe. But's that's me. I'm i'm kinda crazy on that thing. I think sweeping your opponents are a good thing. Now as move onto men's basketball horizon league will handle women's and men's in the conferences and then we move on to our next subject which is baseball so for men's basketball. I mentioned cleveland. State is the top seed right now and right state would be the second seat if we don't have a weekend this weekend if we don't have games this weekend for cleveland state. I think they got a little bit easier of a battle. They have purdue fort wayne in. Fort wayne indiana yes. It's to row gains from the standings purdue fort wayne is five and thirteen whereas right states guess what simon is said rights. Dayton's a great rivalry. If i didn't right thing. Danes a great rivalry right. State narva kentucky. Time wu kentucky north makes stupid. You know cracks about royd state wrong school. I'm so hilarious. Yeah i'm sure people thought that up in the sixties get a new stick anyway right state will be at narva kentucky at the n. t. arena fantastic arena by the way. I recommend going there once just once. I recommend going there. If you haven't been already. So norfolk kentucky. They'll play on the nineteenth and the twentieth at five. That is friday at six saturday at five little bit earlier than what the games are normally going for right. State but the raiders. They have lost the game since that. First battle against cleveland state on january fifteenth. Where the vikings won on a buzzer beater dunk. And then right. Stay just savages. The vikings eighty five forty nine the next day and then the raiders. Having lost since swept at swept on the road swept robert morris at home swept you. I see on the road. Smart milwaukee at home although both canes the panthers i i've always said the wisconsin teams are the ones you need to beat. And when you do you're in you're in good hands. I don't know what it is. It's just it seems like that's the toughest opponent was the toughest opponent for right state in the horizon league college. Nowadays you know rights taken hold their own so it's not like oh god we're going to wisconsin. Oh no darva kentucky hosting rights state. They're ten and six in league. Play currently in third place which i thought oakland was the higher seed. Guess they weren't golden grizzlies or ninety nine. The darsur attendant six and twelve nine overall kentucky side. Looks like this it's been. It's been a good year a little rough start for the norse to begin things. The north split. The series against youngstown state at home could not play against oakland in fact that series got wiped off. The map swept purdue fort wayne at home lost both games at cleveland state. I one was no contest. Second one wasn't overtime affair. Loss swept at home it gets. Up i which. I think well both those were really close losses to the jags but i think that was like the moment i looked like you. Okay and gay. You lost twice and that's not cracking. Upi there's good athletes there but the situation with you. I just astounds me. I y short for indiana. You purdue you indianapolis you university in case you didn't get that. So they're led by indiana university. Meaning i want to get new. Men's basketball head coach. They still have their interim from the previous year but in the end university had a freeze a hiring freeze during the corona virus pandemic so i could not hire anyone new. Yeah that's what i mean. I feel bad for our. Up you i. Just that's not in their control. They wanted to hire someone new. And they can't because indiana said no indiana usa. No anyway back back on that story. It's a big hall. A sweep at robert morris for the north a sweeping holding you. I see this is where the north start to pick up speed a sweep against milwaukee on the road. They did split the series against green bay. The first one was an overtime loss. And now writes. State comes into the b. b. n. t. Like i said right. State number kentucky. I think is just the best rivalry in the horizon league. Yeah that's right. That's right wisconsin. That's right youngstown. State cleveland state. If not you guys rights. They don't get duckie and in fact when people talk about win right state makes the jump out of the horizon league which i mean with corona virus. I don't know when dow happen. I think it will happen eventually. But it's been talked right. State leaves northern kentucky is going to just shows you. How close knit the to our despite neither fan pace liking each other that much. So right state at norfolk. Kentucky raiders. seventeen and four and kentucky twelve. Nine overall in the raiders have won nine in a row. Like i said cleveland state is on the road just like right status but i stayed just has to take care of business not worried about what cleveland states. Do take care of business. Sweep norfolk duckie there. And you got yourself pretty nice setup by the way right state number seven latest college insider dot com mid major poll which Yeah it's a great ranking gray. Major team writes state and also the raiders receiving votes in the ap poll raiders on a nine game winning streak type of longest in the h. l. this season. If the raiders win friday that will be the longest stretch of the year for any horizon league team third best rebounding team in the country about forty two and a half boards per game. Yeah that's outstanding and definitely you can thank senior loud in love with his responsibilities. In the paint sixteenth in the country in scoring eighty two points per game and also twenty second in the country and shooting percentage at about forty nine percent. Forty eight point. Eight is the exact number defensively eighteenth in the country for right state and defensive field. Goal percentage teams normally shoot about forty percent against the raiders and i in the h. l. in scoring defense at sixty five point three. So scott nagy's done a wonderful job. He recently picked up his one hundred win at wright state this season i definitely think the raiders i mean i never want to take northern kentucky for i never want to say no. We're talking he's just a cakewalk. They aren't there good team but same time with the way right states gel plan. I know the series against milwaukee was a little bit rough. But i like i like right sate. Also do i think the raiders. We'll have a pretty nice advantage. Alvarado forgets hockey. They won seven of the eight and ten and six and horizon league. Play looking to leapfrog oakland from the number three seat depending well. Cleveland state swapped them so right states got sweep 'em to have a shot at the number one seed. Let's look through the weekly release. This is on a rising in league dot org by the way so again go through the championship. Seeding utilizing league. Winning percentage strength the schedule rogue lens home winds and games played. So i think you know take care of business i think right state as shots but you know even if you don't get the top seed battle hard win two seed. I think right state is capable of doing that. And now we move on. From wright state to dayton and we talk about the atlantic ten conference. We started with women's basketball now. The great year for coach sean. Green and dayton flyers the flyers coming off a really tough win against vcu who was actually picked to win the atlantic ten. The fires have won eleven straight. That's eleven straight conference games for you. D and they sit firmly on top of the mountain at eleven. Oh twelve for you. Deep second-place the fordham rams eight to rhode island. Eight and three saint louis. Seven three richmond and vcu seven and four a share virginia. Then they share. Was that place place and looks like you have umass six and four south six and seven davidson foreign seven. Saint bonaventure for nine. Saint joseph's three and seven duquesne too in five george washington three nine and mason. Oh and twelve. So what's left for the flyers. I know there's one home game left and it's against slough saint louis. The flyers will get to ho saint louis on the twentieth this saturday at two before falling fordham and at davidson fordham. They did not get to visit. You arena that was postponed and you can think a covert shut down on you decide for that. At least i think that was anew. Decide flies miss five straight games. So saint louis coming in. This is the thought i have. And if i'm off balanced flyer fans feel free to chirp is dayton. Saint louis the big rivalry in the eight. Tenths still. I was thinking about that. I mean don't get me wrong. Dayton saint louis great rivalry in fact. Yeah i put it up. Right steve kentucky. But would you consider dayton. Vcu as the bigger rivalry nowadays. I mean all seems like dayton. Vcu battling for the top. I mean that's not always the case but baseball volleyball women's basketball men's basketball normally. I mean again. I don't want to take away from the dayton. Saint louis rivalry because that's a fantastic rivalry in fact. It's the only one with the two schools not remotely near an ocean. Well i guess duquesne but pay making a point here so saint louis. Good women's basketball team. I mentioned seven and three eighths. They're coming in to take on dayton home sweet home. That's been the thing for women's basketball. It's just now it's tough to beat you d at home. In fact since. I've started working for the flyers as the officials replay guy. I think i've seen dayton lose three times. And two of those losses where two top ten teams in south carolina and yukon. The everyone was green bay by the way. Yeah green bay. Phoenix of the horizon league until the green based grape like. I said that he was against right. State that's going to be huge but anyway three games left. And i think you d they lose a three. Then they'll go down to eleven and three right now fordham's three wins behind and two losses worse same time just focus on your business. The davis game is very winnable. Saint louis is very winnable at home. The fordham games should be fun to watch in fact. I want to check on something before. We skip to men's basketball. They still have bree cavanaugh. She's a great basketball player for fordham unless graduated than she was a great basketball player fordham. Let's pull that up. It's gotta be a way to find out this shirley but yes saint louis fordham. Two of the three. That's spree tough way to close out the season. I think you d will get a chance to be the top seed in the a tenfold women's basketball. I hit standings again. Why did i do that. I want stats. I'm sorry. I i'm failing on here. That's one of the nice things about hindenburg. Stop just retaped over. I mean i could have done that with dastardly. But it's a lot easier. It reminds me of adobe audition using that in college. That was my favorite software but it costs money. And i think you have to pay for it monthly nowadays. Which no not doing that. Let's look at the leaders. There's antidote wolf. Who leads all with twenty two point. One games twenty two point one games per game points per game there is harbison graduated last year the harbison for saint louis. She was about eighteen points a game. So that's definitely a player to stop for the flyers this upcoming saturday. Aaron whalen leads the flyers in scoring at thirteen point. Four points per game definitely great player so much balance on the flyers so definitely i'd say whelan's leader and also she picked up her one thousand point in a recent victory for you d which was awesome. I always love seeing you know when athletes do well like that so sir any way for me just to find out there's a player look at fordham rhode island from the seventh. And eventually you'll scroll down. And now i guess cavanaugh graduated okay. Hey fordham still rocking so. That's pretty nice and now he switched to men's basketball. Fordham is not rocking and in fact. I've seen several times on twitter that whoever decides to take the fordham job. It's not it's not a crate situation. There which is a shame. I mean yeah. Fordham doesn't have the big shiny arena like. Ud has or saint louis or the other schools. But you know it's still job you recruit you get the team you want and maybe surprised some people but i see her seemed like at least ten tweets. Was jon rothstein. Something like that. You mentioned you know. Just fordham fordham. Boredom they should drop out of the eight ten golds and like the mac which is and then. I see jokes that fordham should go to the horizon. League right states should take place. That's not happening. I can guarantee that. So the dayton flyers it's been a tough year for you d seven six in conference play eleven seven and now the flyers on a two game losing streak imagine. I'm not gonna harp on the loss against fordham. That was a tough loss. You move on. That's been over a month ago month and a half precisely the two losses. There's a lot of cancelled postpones just in there. The loss loss was a two overtime loss to rhode island and kingston rhode island. Dining one. Eighty nine ryan's pretty good. I will give them that. That's a tough loss. And then the flyers had another tough loss. Vcu that was the night. I went up to broadcast miami east at troy christian of ron rousseau and listened. That was a great start for you. D took that away a lot better of a result than the game advice. You are the flyers lost sixty six forty three. Like i said it's been a tough year and you know what maybe it's not this year. You surprise people in the eight ten tournament still but with the recruiting class. That you d has coming in. I think they'll be back next year. I mean sometimes you have to take. Your lumps isn't a fun. No but if you had a team that consistently one is that really fun by the way. Vcu is on the top of the eight ten pyramid rams. Sixteen four overall. So you have these issues. Got himself a good program. Davidson six to umass six and to saint bonaventure. Eight and three by the way marksman has been rumored to be interested in the boston. College job. park schmidt's been at saint bonaventure for a long time. He was there when i was right. State still right state. saint bonaventure. That was a fun series anyway. Bonds eytan three. Saint louis foreign to richmond foreign three to six five eight and seven and six rhode island seven eight george mason five and six george washington two and three south five and ten fordham two and eleven and say joseph owen nine manson. Joseph's this read the longtime coach. Who's a second win lasalle okay. That's not bad. But that's your look on the dayton flyers. Like i said i still think you know maybe make some noise in the tournament regroup but sometimes tough years happen and now we get some action which is for the mid american conference. Not for the big mac. Let's look while they're talking about soccer. That's nice let's look at okay. We'll start with men's basketball because like clicked on the wrong thing. i apologize. I could find the standings. I can tell you. Toledo's on top and bowling green has fallen pretty far. What's toledo bowling green. The last time. I checked least i thought it was toledo is twelve and three and seventeen and six overall. That's pretty good rockets program. By coach kowalczyk akron eleven three can state ten and four ohio seven and four with buffalo bowling green eight and seven miami. Five and seven with ball states western michigan three and nine central michigan to and nine eastern michigan one seven and auburn illinois one eight. Let's look at miami eight nine overall. Jack owens redhawks and miami has lost two in a row. They're scheduled to visit northern illinois. Saturday at three thirty looking to snap a four game losing streak last win. Four miami was january thirtieth against western michigan at home. Sixty five fifty six since then couple wrote losses to kent state. Seventy seven sixty eight at buffalo. The last broadcast. I listened to eighty eight sixty four bulls that akron eighty three seventy six close battle there with the top team in the mac and then losing toledo eighty seven seventy five a little bit further away than the akron one but still on the road. That's not that's not bad. It's not great but hey you know it's not a jain norms. Blowout miami still has mentioned northern illinois at this saturday at central michigan next week with western michigan to hosting kent state then at bowling green and akron. So yeah only one home match left for the miami redhawks and we look at the women side for the hawks and oxford ohio. Blackhall is the home of miami university basketball. Both men's and women's take log with always causes like the biggest living room. More official phrase. I will say green and a team that scored on by too quick central michigan have already clinched trips to cleveland. That's the place where the mac has their basketball tournaments rocket mortgage still so dirty. Same rocket mortgage just be the queue. It's easier bowling green. Twelve and three. The falcons leave the women's basketball table fall by ninety three northern illinois. Eleven and five central michigan and ten and five ohio fall by eight and five buffalo nine and six ball state six and four eastern michigan and kent state toledo five and ten western michigan three and twelve akron to twelve and miami two and fourteen two in fourteen tough year for the red hawk. Women the last win. Actually it was. The last game at toledo picked up a sixty two sixty win at toledo and are set to host akron on the twenty fourth home game against akron. A home game against kent state than two on the road buffalo. And oh you before that when toledo the last win for the redhawks was the third of this month. So that is a two and three months for miami in february. Seventy three sixty four at home against western michigan. But before that miami lost. I'm going to say that is a bell. What's nine ten conference games. Tough start tough season for the red hawks sitting in last place in the mac in women's basketball now we'll talk about the big east. we'll start with xavier musketeers. I if you ever wondered why go in this order. It's just because i can be in a rights day alarm. You know talk about right states. So that's why i thought about doing athletically. But i'm like and then. I'm gonna miss something like i'm gonna put like miami dayton it's like everyone thinks i'm stupid. Why would i want that. We'll start with women's basketball this time instead of doing the mishap. That happened on the max. Sorry words you believe that you 'cause on top of the big east. it's like the. Huskies never ever stop just winning. I i go. That sounded really enthusiastic. Yukon just they never stop it's seventeen and one yukon fourteen win the big east xavier's problem. Now it's no longer. Uc's depaul ten to marquette eleven and three villanova seven and three seton hall eight and five creighton. five and five for six saint. John's three ten xavier one in five georgetown one and twelve butler one and fourteen c butler fall that far they were good horizon league. Maybe not take the crown away from green bay. Good but you know. They weren't slouches one and fourteen. Let's look at the xavier musketeers. Like i mentioned one in five trying to think. Did they cough the season. Because the musketeers played at depaul and lost eighty three seventy five really close battle to normally ranked too so. That's not bad by the way. What was the last game before that january twenty third at seton hall. We're seeing hall one. Eighty five nine nine. What's next four. Xavier yukon saturday at three. But since its natty so they go that butler hosting seton hall in georgetown to close out the year and that seton hall game is not listed as a conference game is because they've already played twice must be no okay. The conference win was at home against providence. College sixty four fifty and the muskateers have suffered conference losses to uconn. Won six fifty nine at uconn more cat at home. Sixty nine fifty six and creighton fifty three fifty so a tough year for the musketeers. But they're getting better. I mean there's some close losses in there. And no i'm not gonna mention about yukon. Yukon is yukon. You beat uconn. You should just kick title full stop. That's that's fantastic win. I mean you could finish the rest of the year winless and just like we beat uconn. Okay you're in. you're in the tournament. I'm sure that's how that works. But you give i'm saying and now we move onto basketball xavier musketeers. They are four and four eleven and four overall yet. kovic not been kind to the musketeers. This year plenty of okay. Kovin is not being kind to cincinnati ohio. Let's say that bearcats had long stretches xavi long stretches it's just like here hugh takeover now. We don't want it you know it's passing back and forth and that's probably not the greatest thing to make a joke about that but he yeah. Have you been trying to fall college basketball. And cincinnati between ucf xavier. Yeah there hasn't been a lot of action to talk about has again musketeers. Four and four. Who's leading the biggies. Villanova eighteen to by winning percentage five percentage points better than creighton. Who's twelve and four seton hall. Ten and five yukon seven five. The men's basketball huskies might be on the up and up again. Saint john's eight seven zero at four and four providence seven and nine marquette seven and ten butler six and ten georgetown foreign seventy paul one in eleven. Let's see what's savior got. Ext i tell you i don't if you work for school and you have. That many kovic breaks it's tough. I know it's tough on the players but stop on the staff as well it just. It hasn't been kind in cincinnati. Let's say that. The musketeers have lost to enroll. They lost at home to uconn the day before. Valentine's day eighty seventy two and at saint. John's ninety three eighty four. Which i believe that snapped a ten game winning streak against saint john's the red storm. What's up next well. Sunday butlers down cintas center sunday night game interesting. I mean no football but interesting sunday night. And then the musketeers go to providence hosts creighton and go to georgetown marquette to close out the year conference wins against butler on the road. Providence at home saint. John's at home losses to seton hall at home creighton on the road also conference win against marquette's at home and that is your xavier musketeers. Let's go to the american athletic conference which just pulled up american. Thanks for that. Google for making me feel like an idiot and now let's go to the american dot org. I can never remember that. I don't know if you ever get ever follow like a local conference and then it's like what is the site mean. Muslim are pretty standard. But i don't know let's look women's basketball for you see the bearcats. Three and eleven in conference play four and fourteen overall sets. That's a shame because last year the bearcats were battling for top spot. But you know you cons in the white now it's usf in ucf on top not far behind and there a couple of there's a couple of little dashes in they're talking about forfeit. Wind for usf against memphis has not played overall records and affected. Okay so usf nine zero ucf nine and one fall by houston nine and four two lane. Ten and five temple nine and five east carolina foreign eight tulsa four and ten memphis to in seven cincinnati three and eleven which is tall state one in seven. Smu as in played since their second conference game. They closed down the shop. Thanks to cova for cincinnati their last game. You have to go back to the seventeenth. So it's a little bit and overtime loss at usf sixty nine sixty five not a bad battle and then the bearcats fell seventy one at home to ucf usf. A south florida the bulls. Ucf is central florida. I thought they were the golden knights. They might just be nights. I don't know so what's next. Lau one home game for the women bearcats. They host houston and then three road trips to east carolina tulsa and back to u. of h. We look at men's basketball bearcats starting to pick up a role. That's now what four in a row. It's been nice to hear changes and with those four wins in a row. Cincinnati now to fifth place. They were at the bottom of the standings. Houston leads all eleven to allstate and to memphis. Eight and three. Smu's seven and four cincinnati at five and four tulsa seven and seven ucf five and ten two lane four and eight three and six temple three nine east carolina to eight and like i said four straight wins. I think this team is finally starting to jail. I know the bearcats have had a tough go out with covert as well and several players opting out which i don't fault them. One bit a big topic like little bit. Quit on their team no. They didn't quit on their team. They don't want catch kovic. You catch covert. I don't wanna catch it but topic for another episode especially since this episode is already in our fifteen hen. Oh my goodness. Let's pick it up so the bearcats they edged off. Ucf sixty nine sixty eight. That's a game. I was listening to on the way home from coming home. I guess i was at home. I was listening to it. Yeah it was coming home from the mall. Because i picked up facemask fun story about that. I might tell you. Six thousand nine hundred sixty eight bearcats wanted. They also come off a home win against temple. Seventy one sixty nine a win in new orleans sixty four sixty one against two lane and a sixty three sixty win at temple and that catapulted the fourth straight wins and that was a game where the bearcats had to rely on several walk on players because several scholarship players were unavailable when you get that type of production holding. It's pretty good temple team like that. Yeah i mean season's not over by any stretch bearcats at three home games. Left three road games there at houston twice first at tulsa before coming over the twice six against two lane and that is college basketball wind down we got marched nat. And this not too far away conference tournaments. We'll talk about those. It's great to be a fan of local sports in southwest ohio hair you coal from shoveling all that snow and driving in it and worried about the twenty inches of snow. We're supposed to get well. I can point you to the t. public and red bubble shops which by the way and public. There's a brand new updated logo and it looks much sharper on merchandise. I suggest visiting their sunday. Pod dot com and then click on shop. So let's talk about spring because that's supposed to happen and it will happen soon. I know well. It's just gonna take a long time and by the way i know it is a long long episode. But hey when you talk this much local sports. You need all the time don't you. Yes you do. That's a trick question. We're going start off with the dayton dragons releasing the 2021 schedule and it's is a little bit difference by a little bit different. I mean there's one hundred twenty games instead of your number one forty and remember how i told you about how the midwest league was going to look different. Apparently it's not called the mid west league anymore. Apparently it's called high a oh. I should look that up high east something like that. It's something stupid. I think the name change is ridiculous dumb and a poor taste the judgement. Let's look by the way twenty less games high a central league. Yeah just rolls right off. Your tongue doesn't it just barf anyway. Hundred twenty games instead of your normal one forty meaning. Those sixty home games at day are ballpark for the dragons. And it's a different looking schedule. You know how i know. Because there's now six game series that's right the majority of the series. In fact i think all of them are six days straight. No monday games unless it's made up but right now there's no monday games and you'll see the same opponents tuesday through sunday now. I know we're missing dragons baseball. I miss it you miss. It's and everyone misses it but things are going to be a little different mentioned high. Should be a little bit better quality I don't want to say that. That's a sound rude. Love with higher quality of players. You know they're built with like robotic arms and everything they just didn't throw fastballs at two hundred miles per hour. You give same but is going to be a little difference and the first home. Fo- for the dayton dragons will be may eleventh the may sixteenth against the lansing lug nuts now the oakland athletics farm club. The first series will be at great lakes for six games at dow diamond and midland michigan. On may the yes. I said may normally minor league. Baseball starts in april. When it's still snowing not the case this time round so the dragons will begin the first of sixty home games on may eleventh they got lansing on the twenty fifth. Say month six straight against quad cities. Nocco see a lot of interleague changing. In fact in this high a central league in the eastern division you will see dayton of course light county fort wayne. Great lakes lancing west michigan notice. Sally didn't say south. Bend there now in the west. Believe south ben kind of takes the place of king county and everyone there's only twelve teams and there's not a lot of cross division play. I mentioned quad. Cities is one but that's kind of it. I'm double checking the schedule on. Nope i'm wrong. They're out south bend for six. That's the thing. I looked to south bend. It's like oh they're part of the midwest league eastern division. No they're in the west of the central league. I will say dayton dragons dot com or find the schedule on twitter. That's why i shared it six straight games so pretty much less teams go for six starters which i don't know why you would you got to see a starting pitcher twice the unless there's call ups injuries or call downs. You guys see the starter on tuesday pitch again on sunday and that's get away and six straight days in the same place. It is a little bit different but again if this means we get ball from this then i'm fine with it's just something weird about it like i mentioned. There's a series itself band and a series at home against quad cities. that's it no beloit. Cedar rapids no peoria wisconsin. That's it that's cross division that is it and the rest of the series will be against fort wayne great lakes county lansing and west michigan. So yeah go ahead and check out. All those at dayton dragons dot com and while you're there dayton dragons dot com. Don't forget to look at the high school baseball schedule. Sixteen season of high school ball. I one a day air ballpark. Previous fifteen was at fifth third field. See what i did there. I'm sorry so you go to dayton dragons dot com same site and go to schedule then click on twenty twenty one high school baseball and you can see from that list of teams and i am a static facts. I just noticed may eleventh. May twelfth may thirteenth have game scheduled. That's not gonna fly because of the fact that dragons play that night unless you get them in before. But i don't know if that's an option or not. So not only do you have your normal assortment of local dayton area schools and little mix of cincinnati you got larger mixes cincinnati area schools and plus eastern illinois's in the mix illinois indiana's in the mix. You know one of those states out of the west. I can't believe i said that. Anyway eastern indiana schools like richman. the red devils. Get to play there. Which i always thought. Why aren't they giving a shot. Did they not know or do. They not get invited idle. But it's nice. See richmond on there as well. Monroe central is the school to take on richmond. However that's on a day where the dragons have game so. I think this list is going to be changed. I see miami's berg middletown valley view spring. Bro twin valley selflessness twin valley wyoming high school in cincinnati. There's hagerstown west liberty. Salem frankel monroe and sonar canham got fair board. Edgewood dixie shawnee wilmington clinton eaten dry county. North fairfield clinton massie north mont franklin. I'm pretty sure that's all but trail national trail. Get into play at deir ballpark. And there's something that i've never seen happened before. There is a day where you have the. Jv and freshman teams playing before the varsity. It's normal just varsity and that's it because you know you have so many teams and you have a finite time to schedule everything together seville's jv slash freshman team will take on harrison's team before the -versities play later that night. I think that's pretty nice touch. I don't know how much of it but yeah so i. School baseball coming today are ballpark. I am excited. And i should be working a lot of those games and finally we talk about the champion city kings my first year of broadcasting from. I can't wait to get started. There's ton of games go to prospect league dot com and you can look at the master schedule of all the eight teams seven. I've noticed is the fact that no west versus east if you're the eastern division depending on what part of the eastern division you're on you'll see those opponents more but no west versus east. You'll have to wait until the prospect league championship for that. So champion city gets underway may twenty seventh at six thirty five. Most home games are six thirty five end springfield whereas sunday games are now was four zero five. I think it's farro five. Yeah four zero five there we go. I remember correctly. There's a couple of designate designated hitters. There are a couple estimators in the prospect league doubleheaders. There's a couple of tested. Here's i'm tired me along anyway. Champion city schedule will begin may twenty seventh at carlton davidson stadium. Also the home of the wittenberg tigers program in springfield and yours truly. We'll be broadcasting so definitely looking forward to getting that the way we have more time in this podcast. We'll tell you day by day but you can go. those sites. Baseball is now on the agenda. I can't wait and all the snow goes away too and the last two topics to cover tonight's are both happening in cincinnati ohio. Us survey my favorite city. I love dayton. Alleys represent dayton with the highest class. I cam but cincinnati's where my heart is. So first off we'll talk about the cincinnati reds. Their season supposed to be starting in fact pitchers and catchers reported was yesterday so a spring training soon. We'll talk more about that later but you can walk them in a new broadcaster to the tv crew which personally. I don't get fox. Sports ohio bali sports ohio. Wherever it's going to change that name that's anyway and no it's not based on the jim. It's based on the casinos of the same name. Yeah i didn't realize bali was in casinos. I always knew him bally fitness. But there you go berry larkin. The last read to have the captain's c on his jersey is joining the television crew for the cincinnati reds. This is from mlb dot com mark sheldon has. It's and he mentions that the former reds shortstop and hall famer barry larkin is joining the tv broadcast on fox sports ohio and was announced on tuesday. It'll be part of the rotation of analysts which includes chris welch jeff brantley and joined by first year. Tv voice of the reds. John sadek pretty nice career for john. Sadek the last stop was the new york mets and just reading his tail. I if i had fox sports. Ohio or bali sports ohio. I definitely watch more of those just last few years listening to radio. I mean if if brent lease calling the play by play fine but yeah it's likes tommy thrive just. I'm not a big fan. But that's just me so barry larkin the new tv booth voice. Jim day we'll be back for twentieth season as silent reporter. There are a couple of names that are cut off brian. Makoro is one of the big names. They also got rid of danny graves and flynn. Doug flynn which jeff brantley is my favorite color commentary to listen to reds. That's just me you can have your taste on it. So yeah the reds pick up shortstop just the right place. I seriously question what. The reds plans are four shortstop. I mean i have to feel like jose garcia is going to get the nod. I mean yeah. I think he can do a little bit. More seasoning in the minors before going back up. Cincinnati but we'll see barry larkin. We'll be representing the reds on tv. It's deli his brother bryan. Larkin is the color commentator for savior. Men's basketball games on radio byron larkin. I think he does a really nice job with joe. Centerman so yeah. That's pretty cool. Also sadek was announced as the new tv. Play by play voice on february four. So it's been a little bit but yeah isn't that awesome. Get barry larkin on tv. I kind wish she gets them. Radio opportunities to but beggars can't be choosers and finally to wrap up this episode. Because it's over an hour and a half now at least they think it's closing in on that there's going to be a new league. Two team in cincinnati looks like the cincinnati dutch. Lions are no more that makes me a little bit sad. I mean yeah. Make your jokes. There's two touchlines teams. Cincinnati and dayton. And they're not really related anymore. Once once i i started with the dutch lions they were but the grew apart and there was an ownership instance neither rain of the dutch lines. They also ran a bunch of restaurants to well. I don't need to tell you. Cova has wrecked a lot of things and that is one of them so unfortunately it looks like it's the end of the cincinnati dutch lions but there was a new league team coming into cincinnati. However i don't have much news for you at all it's going to be announced tomorrow of the nineteenth. Either get to it before it happens or wait about three weeks. It's like oh hey. Did you hear by the way all you did. Well phooey on made but so tomorrow friday. The cincinnati area is going to get new league team to battle against dayton and the others and whatever that conferences. i've missed. I've s my normal routine but that is brought to you by cincy soccer. Talk like i mentioned in previous episodes. I think everyone on sinc- soccer talk does a wonderful job at definitely forward to hearing about it. And there's the us elite to tweets talking about something about the uc state spent the buckeye states state. Get over so that will do it. That's episode two four and everything has been covered. Wow we want at episode hour and a half of local sports. I mean there should be fifteen hours of it each week butts now. There's the hard fought questions like a blockbuster thing or no. It's not because about how bad ohio state. Let's talk about ohio state and then let's talk about james harden his trade for like three months on end seriously. Didn't that happened last month and we're still talking about it. Why oh i'm sorry. I meant zoom if you want to make that louder. I'm fine with that. You get to do for the price of none and that will close out four on next week's episode episode five. Well we switch it up. We're not gonna talk about local sports now. I'm only kidding. We're gonna talk about local sports. We're gonna talk about the new league two team in cincinnati and how they fit long in ohio and the conference. they're going to be joining. And we're gonna talk a little bit more as this is your source of local sports. Don't bother listen. The dayton radio you got it on the local sunday sports podcasts in this league. Wwl signing off on episode two of four of the cincinnati and dayton sports podcasts. Thank you for listening to this. Episode of the cincinnati and dayton sports podcasts. 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Monitor Show 16:00 01-28-2021 16:00

Bloomberg Radio New York - Recording Feed

01:42 min | 5 months ago

Monitor Show 16:00 01-28-2021 16:00

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Larry Hansgen Interview

The Cincinnati and Dayton Sports Podcast

49:39 min | 1 year ago

Larry Hansgen Interview

"It's time for episode. One forty four Cincinnati Dayton sports podcasts and our special guest is Larry Skin Broadcasting Boys that the University of Dayton flyers and the host of my valley's Morning News. I'M W. H. I. O. Radio talking fliers flyers wires this flying episode of the local Syndey Sports podcasts. Welcome to the Cincinnati and Dayton sports podcast with Lee W Maui. This is a weekly podcast covering all sports in Cincinnati and Dayton Ohio from Lima to the Ohio River and Northern Kentucky from Eastern Indiana to Madison County and all points in between this is your source of local Cincinnati Dayton Ohio sports visit the Lee w Malan Dot com slash podcast to find your favorite podcasting platform. Music created with the splash APP. Time for another episode with your host Lee w Maolin. This is up so one forty four. And I'm very happy to have aboard Larry. Hand Skin you might know Larry from the Dayton flyers or whol radio Larry Good morning and it's a pleasure. Have you aboard Good Morning? League is good to be speaking with you. So Larry Let's begin. Why are you originally from Originally from Columbus Went Northland graduated from their nineteen seventy five. That went up to bowling. Green State. University graduated from their nineteen seventy nine. So how'd you wind up from Columbus and Bowling Green? Two down here in Dayton Ohio. Well initially I was working at a radio station In Newark Ohio part time Move back in with my parents and was working fulltime at a sporting goods store just working Sunday mornings at a at a Newark radio station. You know obviously trying to find fulltime work and high Was kind of frustrated. And and so Someone came in the sporting goods stores. Said Hey you know. I help out with the sports at this. Johnstown radio station which is just northeast Columbus and They're probably looking for someone and So he gave me the guy's number and I called him up and and he said Yeah We'd love to have you so I turned in my notice at Brian and the guy said well. I know you're interested in doing stuff like that. He goes I went to college with a guy at. Ou who Rather he was this was in Newark. He works scholar would lose and Brian and he goes. They seems like they do a lot of stuff to call so I was getting ready to head out the door For my training at the radio station at Johnstown in on a whim I I gave a call up to Bryant and it just so happened at the program director and the general manager were sitting down having a meeting and saying man. We're at abide. We need to find someone that can do an air shift and can also do some sports and and then You know maybe Maybe have a couple of sales accounts and just need. Somebody can do a lot of things and phone rang and it was me so they they said We'd love to talk to you. How can you be here? I go jump in the car now so I called the Johnstown station. I actually quit a job before it even began it and got the job and Brian was there for about About a year and four months and was trying to you know. Move up into a larger market and You know saw the whol was a ratings giant in Dayton and You know kind of made a paint the best myself and got hired for an overnight shift one hundred seventy five dollars a week and and real. They offered me seventy five held out for two fifteen. Because that's what I was making. Brian and I say come on I. I can't go backwards and Did that for Gosh really all of a month and then a part of my job was to wake up the guy who was the morning show producer after a while. I mean it would take several calls to do that. After a while. The management said won't be have the guy that's waking up. Take over that job. I did that then. I started doing the sports casts. And then you're later Had the opportunity to start calling the flyers games. It wasn't as simple as that so tell me. How did you wind up as the voice of the Flyers? And what was your first season liked? The first season was eighty two eighty three season And in and it would have been August of eighty two Chris Harris who played a Dayton. It worked alongside Bucky for ten years. was relocating to Seattle In the insurance business and so that created an opening and I raised my hands. I'd really love to do this and My boss at the time Ron Kempf said Yeah I think you do a good job. Yeah I agree with you Tom Ferrick Suzy. Athletic director at the time just said no way no way. We're going to hand the keys to the car over to To to some kid who's got very very little experience so I you know they. They were all set to go with Marty. Brennaman As as their as their broadcasts voice But Mardi just couldn't he does couldn't commit because of red spring training obligations so and came back to me. They said okay. Well let's see what you sound like and so Bucky and I went into what was then a storage room. What's now part of the you know it's a luxury box at the and during the the the the preseason practices and this is October now You know while the team was scrimmaging if they scrimmaged than we would do a fake play by play of what we saw. You know out there out there on the floor and Turned in the tape to Mr Eriksson. He said okay I'd like to hear it one more though and so we did another and he said okay can you got it and to his credit You know as much trepidation as he had about me doing it. I don't think I ever had a big supporter thereafter And he he would give me good critical feedback because he would when even a home game he would not be in the seating bowl. He would sit up in that same dusty storeroom and while he was watched the game. He was listening to the broadcast and he'd have a big a legal pad and he would be constantly making notes and you know he was a guy that really hit home to me about you know scoring time score time You know that's the most important thing it's the next most important thing and it's the third most important thing in a broadcast anything else you had to say is really superfluous. I never knew that about Marty Brennaman. He's one of my favorite baseball. Broadcasters and I know he did some college basketball but I never knew he was in line to do you D and fortunately he I'm glad he said no exactly. Now what's changed from the eighty two eighty three? Ud Season two today in terms of broadcasting the campus your job. What's all changed? Well I mean the things that have changed would be just the The technical aspects which you got on the air At at that time you know we rely hard you know we've relied strictly upon you know a telephone line and we travel with an engineer and and It was a great guy named Dick Johnson. And then Ron. Guy Or followed him knees. Guys were just absolute wizards of fighting through the vagaries of of telephone companies at the time and and being able to always get our broadcast on the air without fail So that kind of jumps out at you mean 'cause now it's it's You know we we just use. Ethernet connection we. We use an Internet connection. And it's a you know it's proven to be very reliable and almost idiot proof because we no longer travels an engineer. So so I have to do that. you know. Obviously the travel is As become You know this is the data team now. The the charters everywhere. The only time they take a commercial flight is to go someplace like Maui Took a commercial flight out to. We didn't think we chartered out. Arizona even so It's you know I it's a you know high is it was high in trouble back then when I started in the eighties. And we've always stated very nice hotels but you know it was strictly commercial flights and so you know if you play the game of Chicago on a Saturday night. You'RE GONNA fly out until Sunday afternoon. So you know that's a big change and in Obviously you know I started off. The first couple of seasons I broadcast was no shot clock. There was no three point line Think a how those have changed the Game College basketball but I know let me and coaches players fans everyone. We've all drafted to it and think sometimes you have to sit back and really look back to think about how much change is actually actually happened in. You mentioned no shot clock or three point line either and back then there was that Tartan floors well which had to be removed for the newest renovation. Ud Arena which. I always love seeing those pictures. Went this time for I. Four and seeing that floor just underneath and history on that well if it goes down to her called out Bama that meant that they are essentially going to go to. Ud's version of a four corners Dean Smith type of offense at North Carolina and when they would just hold the ball in the Adelaide. You know just hold the ball in the net. Take a shot. You could hold it for two three four minutes if you want to spend a lot of great games a lot of great players and coaches that went through you D and your time. Who are some of your favorites that you've gotten to work with well? You know I got spoiled right away. And that is that the second season Was that I work with. Eighty three eighty four season where they made that elite eight run Beating lsu Oklahoma Washington and then falling out at Pauley pavilion in the West Coast. reasonable finals to eventual national champion. Georgetown yet Roosevelt Chat Mindy all-time Leading Score In in Ud history on that team and yet hall of fame players like young endangered goodwood on that team. Anthony Grant was a freshman that barely solve the floor that year. So you know that that that team You know collectively another hall of Famer on that team. Cedric Tony Cedric was one of my all time. Favourite competitors But then you know you know you move forward in a guy like Miguel night was so talented in. His senior year has about a good year as any individuals head for for for a season as a flyer Ryan and pound for pound the best rebounder. I've ever seen You know great great competitor. As well. Brian Roberts maybe the best shooter Slash Score That I've seen a look at the Devon Oliver most charismatic player In in and you go to the The team that went to four straight. Ncaa tournaments that trio of Gucci Smith. Kyle Davis in Kendall Pollard. I almost treat them as one individual. Because I I don't think you could separate them from each other. Because they had such collective impact and then oh my gosh maybe the safe the best for less than you know top and I said I said coach grant I said I think. Ob might be more popular than Roosevelt. And he was ready to concede that but I mean consensus player of the year and the nation. Just absolutely put on a show and the other you know. He's jam and then got peanut butter a first team all conference guard. Jalen crutcher you know. I don't have to comb through my memory. Banks to find great players Flyer Israel I gotta do is think back about last season and you mentioned. Ob you mentioned Jalen Crutcher to because the NBA draft is around the corner. And it's looking like those flyers might be drafted and what's your thoughts. Well I I think I think it's pretty clear that Jailed is doing what he did last year. That is test. The waters To get feedback. Unfortunately he's not GonNa have the opportunity to go work out in front of teams and get that hands on type of thing that That he's able to get and then bring that back To have the incredible year he had sheer. So I I fully I. I would be shocked if Jalen kept his name in that he did not come back for his senior year. Bobi. It's not a question of if it's just you know. How high is HE GONNA go? And I think you'll be a lottery. Pick I think to a main electric? Were those dunks and the play of ob topping or this this squad. How special was this season to? Ud fans they they just they had such joy in in each other success and that is something that I will remember them for More than anything was was the joy with which they played the game and the fact that they really really really just enjoyed the heck out of each other success it was. You know they would share the ball so well And it was not you know and it was genuine. It was not a nothing. Contrived was their DNA You know I think at times they. They were surprised that people commented how selfish they were because to them. It's just what they did they. They're like well. How else would I play? And that was really cool. As this great seed Dayton have that much success and just to overtime losses on season to Colorado and Kansas on neutral courts ad run rampant through the end. I mean that's that's a very special flight team but we got. Yeah and and you know the hey ten At some pretty solid competition there. I think If all is said and done come selection Sunday had there been a selection Sunday I I think we would have seen at least three teams in. I think Saint Louis was a NC caliber tournament team I think Richmond was obviously the Dayton flyers. Were and a Rhode Island. Maybe you could have stolen the automatic but even there at-large resume was too bad. You know what I you know. Y- these teams all had quote Losses that hurt their NCA stock. Well they were to the Dayton flyers you know Saint Louis Loses twice to date and what were their record. Look like same for Rhode Island. Richmond had a phenomenal year. They could beat at home by Dayton. I don't think they would have been held against him now. I mean that's what would that be now the quad one loss now. Let's talk about the heartbreak of the ending. 'cause the flyers now only didn't get taste of March madness but there was no eight ten tournament. How much do you think that the corona virus really hurt the fans around here? Well you know I. It's it's going to leave players coaches fans everyone Wondering what if You know just because it you know. There was a sense of There was a lack of closure if you will after all was said and done and You know but but at the same time I think it was good that The final regular season game It was such a it was such a celebration was such a celebration because You know they were able to cut down the nets and and in in all that you know all that and you know the senior spoke coach Graham Spokane after Game Day had been there. It really had a I don't know it. It was a championship celebration. So a very very very very glad that happened. You mentioned earlier that you got to see a Anthony. Grant play with the flyers. How special is it to you and Flyer? Fans that a former player is now leading team as the head coach. Well I think I think what what would it means is that I think that obviously not that any other coach could not You know sell The attributes the University of Dayton But obviously anthony can speak with a a great deal of authority on that subject. You know having Having having played here having having seen what what would it for his life. You know that. he was able to. You know be who. He is Thanks to the. You know the lessons that he he learned a at the university. Let's talk about someone that just got drafted from basketball football. Adam Trautmann got drafted by the New Orleans Saints in the third round this past weekend. Let your thoughts about this. Well I you know I I knew you know. I knew his draft stock. I knew he was a draftable player last year. started to get some attention Initially because we're coming around to see a hundred Sean Smith and obviously Adam had the size okay and you know there's been some great. Dane football players through the years but oftentimes they're size with a lack thereof or their speed the lack thereof. They just don't translate to the next level But Adam didn't have that obstacle. He had the size. I mean he looked like an NFL tied and then once the scouts came around and looked at him and saw the way in which you know he you know he just he just quote everything and you know the way he practiced. What kind of teammate he was. He was the first time. Maybe in the history dating football unanimous team captain in every single player voted for it And I remember when he was A redshirt freshman and with scout team player of the year at the end of that year. Coach tables said to me. Hey you got tied and we got. It was scout team last year. I mean he catches everything so I really made it a point to watch him in practice in August. And what impressed me more was at the end of drills? They'd runs France and he won every sprint. Not Because he was the fastest guy I mean he had plenty of speed but he just ran hard every time and was at that phony type stuff it was. Just that's how that's the speed. At which operated he had only one way to go and I think that's what made him a great player because he made himself a great player. He also had a very great registered senior year especially with the four touchdowns against the DAX Jacksonville. Dolphins tremendous player. And I think he'll do some great things with New Orleans. Go at absolutely. I mean they are getting you. Don't be with a New Orleans. Radio Station Last over the weekend and a guy said you think that they'll use him as a receiver just a block. They don't throw the ball crazy it. No 'cause he's GonNa catch that he's GonNa make plays. I mean that is very talented offensive scheme that drew brees and saints out. But Yeah Trautmann doesn't get his fair shake on things and I don't know what Sean pains thinking down there. But how special is it? Since Dayton football is non scholarship. How special is it to have drama? Go in the third round. Well I think it's a you know. I think it's a validation it is. It's a validation for the program and in for the League for the PF L. You Know I. It's it's a way of saying you know. Hey you can. You can't play at the next level here now. You can do that there. There's you know there is a pass to the NFL Through the PF L. through program like University of Dayton granted. Most most guys are not. Most guys are not The guys that are going to be draft episodic but it's not out of the question let's talk about the twenty nineteen Flyer football season. What was your take on. Well they could score points. Just couldn't stop anyone just in. I think that that's kind of That that's the nature of the game these days offenses are just so Far ahead of defenses with the spread and everything that it really is hard to To slow someone down in an you know. Then you get you know. Have weapons out. There that You know if you got if you've got an ad trauman look look what Flyers Ripley do With that type of With that type of arsenal but defensively. They struggled they. They really do they. They led the nation in scoring know. Let the nation to scoring but but You know could not could not stop. People will ultimately cost merchants of Ham fell championship and getting a playoff berth. Just the thank lead the nation in offensive. You stop more mean that. That could be really good season for you. Yeah I mean it was. It was tough. That was really really tough that You know to in it was never one thing. Sometimes it would be you know. Just not give up too many big plays. Sometimes they'd have a bad tackling game Times they just had guys just blow assignments that just absolutely you know ward where they're supposed to be in granted it was A. It was a young team and so that that that can that can account for some of it. You know the the the you know. They weren't real Experienced as far as you know Play a lot a lot of college football yet but at the same time you know at some point in time you gotta get it done now. You start calling football a couple years. After your first year of men's basketball but still a lot of great football throughout great history and believe Mike. Kelly was head coach back. Yeah I I football season one thousand nine hundred eighty eight so This just wrapped up my thirty second and You know there again i. My timing is is is really good. My second year of football win a national championship Division Three National Championship. Go down to Phoenix of the Alabama. Beat Union in the stable in. And you know some some great moments After leaving division three and going FCS C. S. and being in the NFL Gathered some games that I can recall. There is a game in Nineteen ninety-six out in San Diego season finale to wrap up year eleven now and I still do stay. Let still may be the best football game I've ever seen. I mean was I think there was probably five scoring plays between the two teams of over fifty ours and and these were so much blown assignment plays as much as just guys making unbelievable plays on on both sides of the ball and you know it went down to the wire and and Who it was just a great a great end to that season to finish up a electra. Now I mentioned that my Kelly now. He's your color commentator since your time at. Ud you work with some knowledgeable. Broadcasters who's been some of your favorites in some of your favorite moments with them well I mean. Everyone brought something different to the table. You know the difference guys you know Lieutenant Governor John. Huston worked several years for me. In fact I mentioned that San Diego game you know he was alongside for that one In nineteen ninety six and Jeff Miller another former Flyer Who was was alongside me for several years and everyone brings something different to the table and the thing is with with my Kelly. I knew he was going to be extremely prepared. Extremely prepared and I I just you know what I was not prepared for. Was this this animated excited. Hot diggity dog guy in the booth. I just never saw that common. Never saw that coming in. It's been really enjoyable to see That aspect of it and come out through different personalities because when he's working ever sports at Hugh de he's calm cool collected but when you hear them on radio it's like you mentioned just so animated but very knowledgeable on. Yeah Yeah Oh yeah I mean you know there's There's nothing lost in the translation certainly and for men's basketball. You had bucky Baucom for the longest time which by the way is bucky. Okay Yeah Yeah. He's he's good. He's he's already talking about next year you know he just At back issue during the season really kind of threw him for a loop. That's good I I. I missed them throughout the year but I think the people that would inform. Did a really nice job like Brooks Hall. He was the one that I got to listen to the most. I think he does a nice job. Yeah I made in there again. I really enjoyed having the variety because I think that that That is of benefit the fans that they get You know varied perspectives in a brooks. Has that players perspective In his is his really thinks. Like a player. Keith has players perspective but kind of more than arm's distance you'll having spent a lot of time overseas playing and nor will it takes to play at the next level you know. He's he's able to not so much Identified directly with the players. He's been there done that but I think you know he's got know a different a different vantage point and then Josh Pasta Reno. Only play today with the only also coached in any really brings that coach's perspective. So I think it's a like it's a good thing for good thing for the listeners. To have the ball. There's lot coaches and former players on their giving their you know their view and really does add to it. It's something that you know. You might not look at our here but it's fantastic. Yeah I think we're I think we're blessed we're blessed to have that and really really glad that each each guys able to To to contribute after football the flyers are in the pioneer football league and men's basketball and almost every other sport the Atlantic ten. What some of your favorite trips and least-favoured trips you've gotten to have over your career. Well you know I. It's you know we always joke about going to saint bonaventure in the bad part about that is is getting there at one point in time. That facilities civilities getting accommodations. Like we stayed at this old motel. I can never well the first trips over there and to wake up in the morning and to find a an inch of snow in your room Was to have to walk barefoot through the snow to get. Your bathroom was a little luck. put that put things off a little bit but then when she gets to the game itself. I mean The O'Reilly Center. They say bonaventure is a great game. Venue let's super now. You can go to Philadelphia and have you know amazing meals and all that kind of stuff but then you go to the Tom. Gola arena a tire center in Hair Care Salon. And and you know you're like is Israel is really a college basketball venue You know so i. I tend to lead towards I guess for everything involved. D atmosphere Easy place to work. I mean you don't have any technical issues or people that are you know being a pain. I say the best to say Louis because I mean it's A. It's an easy trip to get there. There's couple restaurants said We've frequented through the years where they know us and then You know they've they've got maybe the second best Rena in the League and good people and it's You know it's a great atmosphere. I mean you know they don't like Dayton and but that's what you want. I mean you WanNa go someplace where you know where you feel like you're playing you're part of something that matters and that's really what it all boils down to. You know whether you're a player or kosher or broadcast you won't feel like what you're doing actually matters and for football. I you got some pretty close opponents. Indianapolis Valparaiso Indiana's not too far and then randomly San Diego California. If those got to be some big trips in the pioneer I mean that's You know obviously it's it's a great opportunity. And it's a recruiting tool that you know that. Thank the coaches us. Well because you know it really is a difference between you can be a preferred walk on Mac or you can come play Dayton you can ride buses to Muncie Indiana and it's slant Michigan in Akron Ohio. Or you know you you can go to San Diego Florida Charleston South North Carolina Poughkeepsie. New York and you know it's an in in in I talked to the guys and it's it's something that yeah it it matters to them. What's your thoughts about Jacksonville? Closing down their football program I was shocked But then again they've I in some ways they've not been a great league member from the word go from an institutional standpoint. They're just not you know. The snapshot of the Institution doesn't look like a a pioneer football league team. So maybe maybe you know maybe I. It does make sense But nevertheless still surprised because look like they were trying to take things in a different direction and one that would have been a little bit more in line with the PF L. standards if you will listen to the game and I always hear that Jacksonville's while coached and while disciplined in when I saw the news like wow that's that's a little bit sad. Yeah because they they they had been kind of a renegade program for a while but they had. I thought you moved in the right direction. They were you know doing the right things now outside. Ud and W. A. J. O. What else have you done in your broadcasting career well outside of WHO You know which which I host the show and a half for since two thousand three and had done a lot of other things before that I did some stuff for the Dayton dragons early on On on their on their cable broadcasts on what is now spectrum. But cynic Time Warner at the time. So I've just done those types of things Yeah but primarily. It's been you know it is good because I you know. I think it's fun to baseball. Say Yeah I got chance to some baseball wants. Never done hockey. Never done hockey. I've done a lot of other sports through the years including soccer and volleyball but never hockey. Hockey's a blast. It's one of my favorite sports to broadcast. And I remember a couple of seasons. Go you got to broadcast you. D Baseball game and that leads me to my next question brought casted any other sports for you. D outside men's basketball or football Did just did a few baseball games. did a did some. Mez Women's soccer again for the cable broadcast back in. This would have been. Oh Gosh Ninety six yeah it would have been Leading into the ninety six would have been in the fall. Ninety six I did the A ten Soccer Tournament that was at Beaujolais field. And I did that. And it was on the local cable here but it was also on Massive Square Garden Network. Yes New York wingless sports network comcast Philadelphia as that was kind of cool and and I just I just wrote glisten who was a women's coach at Ud for many years. He was the color guide. I I wrote him. He carried me so much. I think he'd near my weight down to the ounce but the end of that tournament and for Baseball I mean Jason King in his third year the helming fire. Baseball's looking dangerous. Well you know in in there that that that's a that's a tough battle. I don't think I don't think fans realize how how hard it is In College baseball if you are not in a sunbelt area or in the southwest or or I mean just because of the nature of the season in not being able to get outdoors and In it that then turned it It affects recruiting footprint. Where you know you're you're not able to. You know be able to go out and evaluate and look at talent being able to play almost all year round so I I tip my hat. Successes of teams above the Mason Dixon. Line when they have success not just within their leagues. But you know a success that can translate to make an an impact nationally. I hit my head to him is not easy with especially since winter likes to stay until about mid April most see sense. Luckily I was able to catch three games and that flyer team looked really really good. It was just a shame that that was it. Bam just the one home series against Northern Kentucky and. That's all she wrote for baseball now. Let's talk about. The Corona virus is an important issue affecting US worldwide acid affected. You and your jobs. Well obviously it You know I had planned on being I told people I said I can't make any commitments out. Any outside Events or what have you until after the first of April because I plan on being busy with the NCAA tournament. Well I didn't have that but then again there wasn't anything else to commit you anyway. So yeah I mean it took for me. It's just it's it's it. It was going from sixty two zero There was no easing tapping the brakes. It was just a skid start a skid stop and it's just been like that since so Obviously in you know being part of a news program each day. You know Like everyone else. I want distractions from this because now I know I can't shut it off folks. Just say well you know what I'm just going to ignore the whole thing and not think about it and and not Not read about it not studied. I can't do that. It's it's my job to to immerse myself in it and To be honest with it gets to you. Sometimes he really does mean. Your job is to inform the people what's happening in. It's there's not been a lot or any good news. Come with this yet yet yet. There will be a there will be an all clear someday yourself an it soon but it wiped out the Atlantic ten tournament completely. The women's Tournament did get completed which was nice and it was nice. See The flyers women's basketball team lift up the trophy on their home courts. That was really cool. Yeah so I mean it in so that and then like you mentioned the fact that the celebration for the man's home finale did offer some sort of a closure a celebration of a championship. Feel Larry What are some of your favorite things about the local sports saint here in day? Well I think what what what I what I like about. It is that It we really Dayton is It has autonomous Now are there are there. Reds fans and Bengals fans in the Dayton area yes And then there are To a large degree large not Lebron's fans into a smaller degree some Indians fans but You know we're not Cincinnati North This is a very Autonomous And in a very parochial area. And I love that about it in that You know Friday nights you know were High School Football Stadium you know. That's that's what we do here and I love that the fact that Local sports have as high a profile As anything that would be happening at the at the collegiate level and at the professional level nationally. I mean you go to some. I remember going to Philadelphia and getting my haircut tournament barber shop and get my haircut. Augusta's where you're from Dayton Ohio will bring you here. We are for the Atlantic ten tournament. It was what's that was that. Well it said it would lead Danes Long with LaSalle Saint Joe's really. Oh I had no idea. Yeah so you know. Most of the metropolitan areas are so consumed with professional sports that You know anything. Taken Place. Collegiately or locally. Just don't didn't resonate. There's a lot of everything around here. I mean like you mentioned high school football. That's Fridays than you. Got College Football Saturdays and pro football the next day. There's a little bit of everything for everyone here in sports game. Well in two thousand and four There was a a game in February Dayton played. Saint Joe's hosted Saint Joe's and had a horrible snowstorm that weekend the Dayton mall was shut down. The mall was closed. flyers had a sellout crowd that Saturday night. Be Saint Joe's you know the next day. Everything is still shut down completely snowbound in K. Churches are closed. The Altar is playing in Saint. Vincent Saint Mary with Lebron James and CJ is going to play a believe Cincinnati Princeton in a doubleheader at the at the arena well Princeton says. They can't make it up. It's too snowy Akron. Same Business. Mary's they make it and so as alter against Lebron his high school team and again a sellout crowd in I just sold out to sold. I mean butts in the seat sold out on back to back nights when the area is supposedly completely shut down by snow. So that told me a lot about Dayton fans right there. I mean that's some not always tip my hat to UD FANS. There are probably the most loyal that you can meet. It's it's fantastic. And when the malls and churches close you think everything's closed but nope it's still basketball time. Get get there yeah. I mean it's GonNa take a lot more than just a on the only thing they can keep. Obviously the only thing that can keep flyer fans away is Kobe nineteen. It's it's it's still such a shame and it's the first tournament since what the thirties or something like that. It hasn't been played I. It's not good match a lot of great things about the Dayton sports scene. But in your eyes what would you like to see? More out of Dayton sports in Dayton sports media or Dayton media in general You know I think I just just keep the focus where needs to be in. That is The focus on what is happening. That is not going to get the attention of. Espn you know that in that is you know what's happening with local athletes. Local teams The you know the local stories about you know the people who are involved. I mean the news organizations are quick to say. Well you know. We don't need to be doing a sports because sports fans can get all of that off of ESPN. Well they can national stuff. But that's not the you know but that should not be the focus you know We don't need to you know if I want to know about the NFL draft. I'm probably not going to watch a local TV station. If I want to know about Adam trautmann status. I will So that you know that's the difference in so Yeah keep the focus. Local for those are interested in joining the field broadcasting. What advice and tips can you give? Well develop a brand Develop brand no one is going to You know no one's going to give you job. Security known is going to give you anything Your your value to an employer or as a self employed freelancer. If you will is is that you've got to have a brand you know. So so focused on. What is it you do? That's unique? What is it you do that makes you Someone that people want to pay attention to to give up something very valuable and that time and focus on that really kind of hold your brand. Okay what is it that I do? It could be that you just do everything. You're a jack of all trades or something to be said for that it could be that you know what I am the best Bmx bicycle broadcaster in the nation. In focus on that. You don't have your niche but you gotTa have a brand you have to have a brand So that both employer knows who you are and a listener viewer reader is going to know who you are like that advice about building the brand being professional with it too. I like that piece of advice. Larry how can people follow your work on Social Media Atler gone on twitter Larry Ends Getting whol on facebook and you know and then the old fashioned way twelve ninety. Am and ninety five seven FM. They can hear you on the radio. Waves Larry thank you so much for your time today. It's been a real owner having you aboard any closing thoughts to wrap up this episode Just that there are brighter days ahead for all of us. I liked that closing thought. That's Larry Hands Skin. And this is so one forty four. The Cincinnati Dayton sports. Podcasts talked you again for up. So one. Forty-five thank you for listening to another episode of the Cincinnati Dayton sports podcast with Lee w Maui and to subscribe to the podcast. Please visit the lead w Mao dot com slash podcast from there. You can choose your favorite platform such as apple podcast. 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Should Bruins be Concerned about Tuukka Rask & the Shayne Gostisbehere Dilemma | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

Poke the Bear

34:18 min | 2 months ago

Should Bruins be Concerned about Tuukka Rask & the Shayne Gostisbehere Dilemma | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

"And welcome in to poke the bear episode 37 who's number 37 that we could potentially have as this. I don't know if I know anybody now, you might have to check in with spoke Z to see if maybe he can verify what what I think of a good player but my head I don't have one. I don't have one. I don't I don't think that's a 37 37 on the Bruins. Mm. Can't think of one's escaping me at the moment. Yeah sister go back. We'll take it to Twitter and see if people can can help us out there. We'll see if people can think of a of a name but for now, oh Bruce borchardt might be one that might be the guy maybe I don't know maybe 36 or 66 know you're thinking of Marcus Smart. We had this conversation. Yeah, so that's right. That's right. It's all kind of Cloudy. Well, we'll Circle back we'll figure we'll figure out who a good number 37 for this but at any rate off, I'm in Marion off ski alongside conried a Boston Sports channel Connor how we doing? I'm doing very well. How you doing? Good. It was nice to see the Bruins, you know when it was when a game. Yeah before 2 in the third. The Devils I'm thinking I got every time I think the steam can't get lower they do but they didn't they pulled themselves out of it. They Charlie McAvoy Matt grzelcyk just went on an absolute tear at the end zone, but that game was now Tuesday night people will be listened to this on Thursdays. That'll be old news. And so he never really talked about games. We don't what's the what would you why would you talk about a game when it's pretty much like over and done with the next day. So I'm considering the schedule is also like every other day now until the end of time we've have a game so that stuff gets lost in the shuffle very quickly. It's so weird to have nights where there's no games since I'm like, oh, what am I going to do tonight? There's no Bruce Lee. Yeah. We're not going to sleep. I go to bed at a normal time. Like what am I going to do? But at any rate, yes, brune's got a win dead. A much even when they finally they finally beat the devil's they finally did it. They finally finally did it. But well, I think these shows can be a little all over the place with positives and negatives. Well same here cuz not all people are talking about this and I think it's an important thing we discussed and that's to grask Tuukka Rask. You probably have not heard about him lately. You probably have not seen him lately month, but you only played three games and all of March only three games. He was out with an injury for a while came back left mid game for like during the intermission recently moved and it begs the question in this shortened season where there are games every other night and your schedule is extremely crazy. When is Rath coming back from do you trust that he will be good when he comes back basically at the Crux of it should people be concerned about giraffes. I mean, I think off and you've got an injury like that he has and we don't know for sure whether it is right. It's still tabbed as an upper body injury, but I think you saw him in that game on March 7th where he left and looked like he was holding his back pack. That's obviously very concerned very for a goaltender. And I think it'd be one thing if he missed, you know, 3 plus weeks with this when was out but then came back and was fine. But when you missed two weeks off come back you get the clearance from both himself and the medical staff saying he's good to go and he only plays one. That's kind of concerning where that's something that you know, it's not like it's it's like a high ankle sprain and basketball right where like maybe you come back but like when you do you probably need like a whole offseason to kind of get over it, right? It's not something that just goes away that's going to be lingering for quite a bit. So, yeah, it's not ideal job. If you're the Bruins where you've got the situation more rats is kind of in limbo with an injury like that again. I don't know if we're going to have the conversation of like is it worth, you know going for a run. If you don't know what happened to her ask when it's definitely a concern right? It's you know before last year and obviously what happened up in the bubble, but the last couple of years you went to the postseason. No way at the very least that you had arrested healthy Tuukka Rask, which is a great Coupe of your the Bruins right in terms of having that knowing that knowledge that you have a top goaltenders healthy ready to go and rested Rascal we go to the playoffs could be rested if he's not playing a lot of games, right but also you run the risk of whether he's going to be fresh as Rusty is that injuries seem to linger. It could be a thing which looks great and all sudden. He stretches the wrong way and you're back at square one, right? That's that's kind of what the nature of some of these back injuries, uh can cause for a goal to age. So it's definitely concerning you wonder if maybe it's best to just kind of shut him down for a stretch here and see what you have and whole lock and with our who's been solid so far and his, you know a brief stint up here again, I don't know if we're going to get into a situation where the Bruins in the playoffs is going to be like a new Bennington with with our with our takes or just think of that like that. Like I don't think that's going to be the case you hope that Bruins are not to resort to that when they the play-offs but for the immediate right now, it's definitely concerning for the Bruins in terms of just mapping out the rest of this year because again, we could sneak a week's time to come back and that's obviously great for the Bruins. But you also run a lot of risk of that with an injury like that. It's not like it's a even like lausanne re where it's like a broken a broken back and has surgery for that not great. But generally you can map out the recovery timeline and once the bones heal once you get through the proper rehab you're generally back back at it a muscle in, Georgia. The back that's one that that can pop up again very very quickly. So it's definitely concerning for the Bruins. It's funny you mention a scenario where floodwaters playing a lot and it seems kind of where the Bruins are going cuz obviously hillock Campground back-to-back nights. So he's you know for the Dodgers going has been getting in his going to get more time. It's interesting because rascas up after this season and for a long time, we've all been saying re-signed raspberry sauce street address you have to do it. I still think you do have to do you do have to re-sign Rask and I don't think he doesn't want to play anywhere else. I don't think that or anywhere else in the NHL. I don't think this is an instance of like, you know, I think if you if if he wants to come back if the Bruins can kind of meet him at the right point he'll come back but for a long time you didn't know what you had invalid are in swimming, but you're seeing it now, you know Le darling box solid swimming is really good in the AHL, you know, you might get some time up in NHL at some point here as well. And you know if Lazar makes this kind of run with halak and if you know Thursday That tandem gets them into the playoffs you do. Wonder if there's that urgency to re-sign Rask in this situation because you know, if you have le ja ra-hoo looks ready to be in the NHL or if you want to get the platoon with halak and blood are for entire season which again it's hard to tell how that goes out over eighty-two games rather than you know, two months. But if if you have something there, I wonder how that affects reciting Rask. Yeah. I mean, I think probably it's all depends on how the Bruins look this year how the DAR plays have swimming looks in Providence which even change and I see the most likely scenario is probably the Bruins move on from Hawaii and they bring back or ask. If anything if Rask has a you know, a place a half season, it could just probably work out better for the brands in terms of just negotiate his next contract will be which I don't imagine it's going to be I don't think you'll get paid, you know, seven million dollars a year, you know, I could see two years three years at 5. Maybe that's just a total loss. Point but you're recording that you just said you're you're you're that is breaking news. Woo. Yeah, exactly the same thing but you know, I could see that being a scenarios rest comes back and then you probably incorporate with our in but even if the dog looks great and has you know, a 9:20 say percentage in you know. And screaming looks good. I still don't think I do the Bruins want to open next year where you hope they still think they have a contention window with to you know, rookie goaltenders, I think. It's one thing to have, you know to play play the hand where you've got lausanne and the border of these guys and featured role to another thing entirely when it's two rookie goaltender switch a team that's trying to cash and now dead that's a whole lot of risk, but I think more than anything in terms of distressed status. It probably would just affect what they're looking at for his new contract because I still think of her ask is willing to come down. It seems like he is just want to play anywhere else and you can retain him for less money and give yourself more cap. Flexibility kind of seems like a no-brainer know it does I'm just saying in terms of injuries terms. Yeah, you know what, you know, what you want to do with your cap space just McCallum boost the starter. I think that's really what has to happen. 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I'm trying to find the Tweet the Tweet of when they waved Shayne gostisbehere and they were they were promoting Shayne gostisbehere the night before like they had a a slow mo shot of Adam with the Emojis and stuff which I think is a black historical but they waved him on Tuesday morning. They finally waved Shayne gostisbehere. Obviously. Yeah, it's transaction. We have placed defense machine guns front waivers today and the amount of quote Keats far outnumbers the amount of regular Retreats that this got this this was a good sign. Yes. This one was this one kind of broke Twitter a little bit, but obviously if you don't know. Sarah was like borderline. Delete a few years ago. Like everyone was you know, the hyper and she and gostisbehere. She's like a flyers always have like these young guys who they pipe up to, you know these amazing players and then it's like each other pretty average actually, but gostisbehere was a perfect example of this and obviously with past couple of years. He's deteriorated interior deteriorated this year that whole Flyers team has just been garbage wage and they waved him now. He cleared Wednesday morning. He cleared went away. So no one has picked him up yet. Now the question every NHL team is pretty much facing at this point. Mainly the Bruins or especially the Bruins home is do you pick him up? You know it do is it worth the four point five million dollars in cap from that he would take up I believe for the next two years, correct and Thursday, I think two years. Yeah, I remove it's I think it's two years remaining. I think it's he signed a big contract. So hell, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so so not correct. On that front, but the Bruins driven eat on the left side. You need to let you know your electric fence. We need someone experienced. You don't want have to keep rolling out Jacobs Barrel in a perfect world. You would be your seventh defenseman. You would put him in whenever you needed him not every single night, especially with the way he's been playing lately and got the spare bits that but there's a lot of hesitancy us with them is not as easy as like 2016 Shayne gostisbehere. So do you think that they should make a move to pick him up? I think on waivers know and I think it seems like a lot of other teams agree with that. It's just you know, if Shayne gostisbehere was available with term for two and half million, maybe look at it cuz as much as I think he's got his warts defensively obviously, look at that whole Flyers team. We've got a lot of issues defensively. I still think shin guards appear on the right team. So she team that's struggling with getting hooks through generating chance log. Is struggling with you know generating chances up high on the power play. It makes plenty of sense. Like if if you available for cheaper, I think the Bruins would definitely take a look at them home, but I think just what that contract so he's on the contract for two more years after this. So it's a whole lot of money commit to a guy I think two of those those next two years both its signing bonuses am 2.25 kick in immediately. So it seems already paying those up front and yeah, I think it's overall what I could see happening now that he's on waivers is dead Flyers trying to probably make a deal where they eat some of that they retain some money and then trying to make a move which if you're the Bruins, maybe you you look at that like something you probably want a more. A stable guy back there again. I'm see the the top dogs at home, which seems you know, they go probably talk about that a couple of minutes, but that seems less and less Lucky Now based on the line Nationals playing but ideally you want a guy who's also saved his own and but it can generate at least more even-strength offense which think the Bruins are lacking obviously so I think for gostisbehere, yeah, I wouldn't put a trade pass pass them. I think Emily cap on ESPN said on Wednesday that for in terms of Trades that sell your attention is going to be a big thing because just so many teens can't take on some of these contracts right now so I can pull up the Flyers doing that. But in terms of the waiver wire, yes, you know, we were makes sense in terms of you know, picking up a guy without any consequences are having to give away any assets. But when that was a you factor in that contract plus the Bruins, it's not like the Bruins need to get in gossip and all the problems are set, right. They still gotta add a guy up front or two, right they have to make a couple of different modes and even though they have a job. A little bit of cap flexibility plus some you know, John Moore and l t i r kaushik could be on ltir if he doesn't come back. We don't know about Kevin Miller, you know, that's a minimal Captain. It's still closely to go over that page and a half million dollar upper limit, you know, they can't just kind of take on a contract like glasses for anything. All the problems are going to be solved cuz again, he's he hopes in some areas. But if you look at that game on Tuesday against the devil's where you know, lausanne had a really really really rough game as you said things that were always been really struggling the last couple of games specially when he's getting pressured with the puck Clinton had a bad. He didn't tie up Sajak on that net from which led to that goal. So it's not like you can just get an offensive defenseman and it's solving all your problems. You also need just some stability back there as well guy that can beat minimum wage handle it handle kind of that workload and I don't know if gossip sphere answers all those problems and when you factor in that contract on top of it I just don't see the FED. Yeah. No, it's funny. I think I was just thinking about this and you're mentioning retaining some of the salary and dealing I mean we got scared right now would probably only take like a fourth or fifth round pick to get I don't think that you're if you were just taking on that whole contract. Yeah. No. Yeah. I also also and if fires were retained some of that contract he might go free for the sixth or seventh round pick. What's funny though is you know, that if the Bruins did make that move that sixth or seventh-round pick would become like it's a face of the Flyers like the brake calipers off. Yeah, of course, that's usually how it works out. Yeah, that's how usually works out. But again, I mean if it's funny you mentioned that if if if the Flyers now, by the way, I don't know how open the flyer to trading within the division, but if the Flyers said to the Bruins, hey will eat half of this thing. So you're only paying two point five and we only need like a seventh. That's not the worst thing in the world. I mean, you know that 2.5 isn't great. That's not fun. You don't want to pay that but if it helps, you know, you never know. It's a low-risk kind of move 7 throughout not that big a deal. But again, it's the money. It's even that 2.5. You don't want. I mean look at this job more contract like that's been a thorn in your side since he signed it so long, um again, like that's not a ton of money, but it's also money that could go to other places. So there's a little bit of risk involved in that to me like again, you should have your life at higher especially in a place of need like the left side on defense which you know, you've needed for a long time. Now, this is not like a new problem. It's not like, you know, oh, you know, the Bruins need like a third line right winger, you know. Oh, let's go out on the way. I'd be like, oh, let's get a lien holder second flavorwire right this thing a little bit more in that now you mentioned another thing Nashville is surging if one job Nine, the predators of one eight of nine. They are in a fourth playoff spot in their division. They look great. Now that was the team effort to supposed to be picking from now supposed to the team, you know back home to Boston and forsberg to Boston and and Ryan Ellis to Philadelphia or you know, just taking everyone off the roster. Yeah, and now it doesn't look like it's happening don't got David Ferrante parents live his parents from from from b u b b o Terrier Legend David Sedaris going to going to Nashville and they're going to Mark do guys on a few years. He's a UMass wage. I remember the name but so yes Nashville is not the team those things going to be selling a lot of this deadline, but we talked with us on Bruins. We'd a little bit you know, if you're if you're if you're if you're wrong Nashville, you look at the roster and you say well is it worth it to make this little playoff run again and be out in the first round or to be better to get the head start on the rebuild, but do you think wage Nashville is going to be a team that is still selling at this deadline. I mean, maybe the right I feel like especially with at home and I think this is why that asking price event so high on him is that Nashville? Doesn't have to trade him right now. They can wait until the offseason because he got him under contract for another year at a very affordable price. It's not like they they need to move him if some team is willing to offer. Hey will. Give you a first-round pick a top thirty prospects in our system and another Prospect another NHL, you know Fringe player then yeah, I think then you have to look at it and make a good move, but it's not like natural just you know doing a fire sale for the sake of it and especially the way to play now that again It it remains to be seen of natural like is best served kind of trying to make the playoffs again. I mean also they've won eight of mine's you said but I think Filip forsberg is now we met with an injury so that kind of plays into it and you know, you look at that core and you've got maybe a few young guys on the way like fancy delgaizo and a few players, but you also took sure they're dreading how much money for was releasing a command two years from now Iran. I was up there in age at homes Thirty going on 31. You know, it's how much more do you kind of have with this corn place? That's maybe a question they have to ask but I think if you're the Bruins, especially when you look at in the way now Nashville already was I you know, ask him what for at home now, they're probably even less inclined. It makes things difficult because you know the Bruins me look at their their defense, right? They need a guy who generates V type of offense, but also can hold his own defensively right? I mean again, we saw in that game against the Devils on Tuesday and I called one answer, you know, solve a whole lot of problems for them and after it back homes, either off the board or they're asking for too much about the quality dropped quite a bit in terms of guy who does a bit of everything right? I mean you can maybe get just an all defensive presence that could go David Savard for Columbus maybe sort of first school and like two years. Yeah. She's a night. So I mean even help he's a he's a right shot but big physical defensive defenseman. Jamie oleksiak is a guy Bruins friends, probably love him. 6-7 underrated a little bit in terms of his offense, you know, he's not like a a guy who's going to finish the with like, you know, seventy eight games and like three assists and no goals, right? He has a little bit of touch with the pot but he's an option. But again, it's it drops quite a bit. Right? So foxed all that could be another guy, which that's probably what's going to end up happening. But I yeah that's coming but Mark solid Bobby Ryan, you know, that's what's going to end up happening. But again, that's the issue right? We're at home. I think I'm sure not just the Bruins think this but the Jets obviously think it took me which I don't know. I think Philly is a TV at this and looking out of a just kind of like, you know, take the L on this year. I mean you got like Carhart has to spend probably week off just to solve kind of his goaltending issues and trying to work with him off the ice with that you wonder whether they just you know, talk up there to take the L and and go back and kind of regroup next year. But still what is the Bruins game? A couple other teams, a lot of teams need a guy that got home and if you miss out the quality of who you have to kind of fill that void drops quite a bit. Yeah. Also, you have to wonder about the flyers. I mean they've been a team that's had a similar core in place for a long time there upfront Claude Giroux voracek couturier. I mean, I know he's kind of emerging but he's been there a while. It feels like you wonder how much they keep putting into this with, you know, the defense, you know Pro for off hasn't had that great of a year in general have it's funny. We thought provorov was going to be the guy from the East who would be like a Norris Contender type guy and the mack of would get completely overlooked and it's been actually the complete opposite Knack of a guy getting all the attention and rightfully so we can spend a whole episode talking about how crazy he was and that final minute against New Jersey, but will say I will say I think I think I made a Twitter angry cuz I said he was going sicko mode and people thought that was a horrible thing. I said, he's going sicko mode as well. Could say yeah, as soon as I know whatever says that so you're like now you're just you're cursing everything and colors. Yeah. It's it's funny though that the people didn't catch that young reference. I bet as much as I make fun of like I got that cuz I'm a young guy but I guarantee you when I'm worse when I'm thirty-five and you know a young age Thirty you saying I'm no I'm saying people reacting tweet. We're like maybe over 35, but when I'm thirty-five and you know a young Bruins, right, it makes a joke. I'll probably be like what what what is he saying what she's saying? I don't know what's going on. Here. It comes with the territory. Yeah, it comes with a but no, I I do wonder if the Flyers decide to like, I don't think they'll blow it up cuz I think they have a little bit of a corn place but you'll wonder do they do at some point cuz again, I don't know if that car is good enough to push them over the top. I know it's funny is I just this is the thought that just entered my head. Do you remember there was a team in 2019 That was supposed to be selling off a bunch of pieces wasn't good last place middle of the year and then they went on a big streak at the end of the year wage. They snuck into the playoffs kind of like what Nationals doing right now, but this team stuck in the playoffs and battle through the first three rounds into the Stanley Cup that team wage doesn't ring any bells but it sounds like a little bit story. It was a cool story. It was it was quite the story, but that's what Nashville's dude. That's just as bad as they holyshit Nashville is turning into the next state Louis. It's ridiculous. They're going to do it. They're going to freaking do it on a more positive. That's the record. Yeah, put Nashville pasta to the cup Nashville just does the same thing with the Blues in a few years ago. Somehow the Bruins like trained one of the Predators goalies going to go on the run and then just maybe this whole big thing on a more positive note. Hopefully he's not as bad as the other the other guy before him. See the new deal. Yeah, good job guys. It's great great organization. Enjoy. That one guys could have happened to a better guy and they're misusing crew still stick their misusing crew and their fault break just show you how important Colton parayko is ever since Franco has been gone a team has been a puddle. So I don't know. I mean Ness and had him on the cold meter off during the Stanley Cup Playoffs. You didn't score goal. You know, he was shutting down the Bergeron line for seven games. So have you have you noticed have you noticed recently? They haven't been doing that everyone they have on his hot. No one's cold. They took they realize they drinks the Bruins by putting on someone as cold then they go on a paper plate five goals. They probably put Kyle Palmieri on there who has scored I think like five goals against the Bruins and six games. So yes. Yes. No, but they they stop it's all it's all hot. Everybody's hot. No one's called the other thing that you were at the game on Tuesday night, but I was not the audio on the nest and I heard it was Dreadful. It was like a game. Edwards was broadcasting from you know, three thousand feet underground. He was he was you know, broadcasting the game from the center of the earth next to like some igneous rock right over his head like sound waves are just like right through it off. But yeah, it was it was bad and and then to end the game like the game ended that they kept fixing it and then the game ended and you know, they were given they're saying their goodbyes and then it's just sounded like the same thing. So they're broadcasting a Tron. Yeah. No they was it was not good. It was a it was tough but on a lighter note Nik Richie finally breaks the junkie off the Bruins back. He gets it off with the fight that five-on-five goal against the Devils which was like just that Stout New Jersey defense a tumbling muffin from the right side. He gets it through Mackenzie Blackwood, but him were crazy. Well good have a good is that something that we might see more of You hope so cuz right now especially the the brochure online really isn't getting it done. I think I read somewhere that pastrnak Scott one even-strength goals last twelve games so they get himself some of those issues but right now yeah that line looks pretty good. I think even you know, they'd strung together a couple of good games in a row now, but I was kind of surprised at just how good they've been I think last four games. I think they played about thirty eight minutes together. They're outscoring teams 4 to 1, I think like shots and goals like thirty-five eleven. So, you know pretty substantial in terms of how much chances are generating. And again, I don't think either either of us are going to say that just because they've had a few good games against the Sabres and the and the devil's that this is your new second line. You don't have to worry about getting a guy like I'll marry or hall or Garland or any of these guys we've talked about on this podcast for weeks now, but for the for right now, at least you're getting something from that group and you're seeing them all kind of contributing to Thursday. It's going to see Smith really start heating up now. He had three assists and the game on on Tuesday. So for right now helping out and the very least you got, you know, even if they get another top-six guy, you're seeing kind of the these guys you need to consistently play. Well like Richie like Smith, you know do well and you know, once depressed gets cleared hopefully by faith, you know, maybe Saturday's game and you put him with coil and all of a sudden it, you know your offense, you know, it looks a lot better when you've got depressed floating down to that third one and hopefully him continuing kind of where he was dead before he went out on the covert call list. So for right now, it's open up quite a bit. And what do you know when the version line, you know rebounds as we all expect they will Maybe your oven looks better. I still think again. They still need to get a guy but it shows you just how much different the Outlook of this team is one that second one is contributing applying. Well, if I'm 5 how much it transforms the whole rest of the team because one even that group is giving you more than what you've expected the last year-plus. Now, it kind of changes the whole complexion of what you're seeing from this team. Does it really does again just get upset top six. It's funny. Actually Frank's to Rally just tweeted as new trade bait column and he has David Savard now as the number one trade Target Mattias ekholm is falling down to six months because of how good the Predators spend lately. So his fingers Savard Palmieri Taylor Hall who I like Nick foligno Jonathan Bernier. Hey, there you go fast in bo4. Come on a Jonathan Bernier. Let's take this team on a run and then at home number six Granlund number seven. Toronto's top prospect number eight. I don't know why it's not the name, but whatever birth. Yes, there's so many that they just stop on Sportsnet will say that don't worry that they're going to get, guilin for a bunch of nickels and their tenth Prospect cuz that's you know, that's how they apparently pitched their their trade moves so genius, but then the Bruins have to give up, you know top young first round pick and Jake debrusk and a top young prospects in sadika found other first fruit and other person take for you to of a UFA Taylor Hall to go through walls to see our Taylor Hall, but he was I think he was one of my first pics in my fantasy league this year. It sucks. My fantasy team is actually doing well, but but I had ekblad who was killing it for me killing it pietrangelo has been in an off. The IR Taylor Hall has been terrible. I've been saved by like many, you know, Joel Eriksson deck and Alex drink it and like as as we all expected Joel Eriksson act breakthrough was like, yep. I guess a selkie like dark horses here spokes probably did I mean spoke sees? Yeah, so destroyed guy there are through by the way. I checked this the other day cuz I don't know if we saw on on Twitter off a reporter in San Jose is Erik Karlsson after he scored like two goals if it was Severus best offensive game. And you said no I think eating is Apple. It was the app. The apple is the accent on you know adding on how great their response was. Just continuous. I also find it hilarious that guy not watch all of 2016-17 with our Carlson where he was like that whole playoff series against the Bruins just like I think people talk about how good like, you know, Bennington was on that against the Boston like Erik Karlsson at 7 a.m. At six six games series. It was cuz never V game Sean is for the West. Yes, but that's sixteen Series against that Erik Karlsson was he was going sicko mode as the kids say that guy was like no, I mean nothing was nothing be dead. Full a saucer pass to my coffin at the Blue Line like that was absurd if you're depressed. You can't not I mean you can't save that puck like that has to go in the net. Yeah. It's it's it's a courtesy it's like, oh, here we go. Yes, but so I was saying I was like, I want to look up cross and stats this year and they're not that good his numbers. I think you'd like thirteen points and thirty-seven games and you know a lot of money off, you know, what was right under him Mario Ferraro with I think twelve points in a few more games, but I was like damn you master weapon right on Derek Carlson. There you go. How about it Mario Ferraro you go dead gone into the Frozen Four go to the Frozen four, but yes know against the whole state of Minnesota. Yeah, Minnesota the it's funny someone on one of the college hockey calls asked episode estate coach. They asked one of the coaches from one of the Minnesota teams. Like how cool is it the healthiest Minnesota teams are in the guys like I don't care man. Like I'm just try to win the Frozen for the shit who we're playing or off. So I get school, but who cares? So anyways, speaking of things that we should be caring about. What are you working on a Boston Sports channel right now? Yeah, we're going to be breaking down. Obviously. I think with the Echo news. I think the Bruins have to maybe start taking a look at other potential defenseman to look at the trade market cuz I think again they have to make an upgrade. There should be taking a deep dive on a few other targets. They could be looking at bringing down risk assets some interesting stuff on Wednesday about David pastrnak and kind of what he needs to do. Get back on the scoresheet. So we might be going down his game a little bit and looking forward to what's going to be a kind of a pivotal stretch here, right you playing, you know, the Penguins I think you've got a few games against the Flyers. It's going to a German. I think a lot of how invested the Bruins are in terms of really going forward this season and you're going to see it over the next 10 + 10 + days. So it's going to be an exciting kind of stretch here. So we bring all that down over at bsj. So subscribe over Boston Sports channel, and if you want to follow me on Twitter, you can do that at, Ryan. I just go 93 go do all that and for sale SV David Meredith, that's Connor and a boss this fog. Cheryl you poke the bear listeners. Have a great rest of your day.

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103: WE TALK WITH FLYERS' CAPTAIN CLAUDE GIROUX, PLUS EXPECTATIONS FOR COLIN WHITE THIS SEASON

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103: WE TALK WITH FLYERS' CAPTAIN CLAUDE GIROUX, PLUS EXPECTATIONS FOR COLIN WHITE THIS SEASON

"Steve hey welcome to the project. It's a podcast that rebels in sports and whatever i'm steve worn and that sleepy over there jim jerome jerome today on the show. We're going to talk to philadelphia. Flyers captain closure ru about his summer and a new baby due any second and we'll talk about his expectations for for the new flyer season on the topic of expectations. We're gonna talk about what people think. Colin white will do an ottawa they seize now that he's all signed up and a very wealthy man for six more four years. This is episode one of three of the project presented by our friends at jimmy k ford all insurance ontario and rb computing and the reason nice jimmy sleepy because it's seven thirty his time taking us back to the old days. We were doing the t._s._n. Morning show at like five thirty in the morning are things thanks james. You know steve. I <hes> things are fine. Steven how are you. I'm great yup good. When i think back steve <hes> i think yesterday was something like national radio day or something because i saw a bunch of a bunch of stuff saying it's national radio day. That's why i think it was <hes>. It was just steve. I think back to those days the beyond air adviser. I don't know how i got through that steve and i thought for second yeah i do. You were late every second day again. I think we've talked about this in previous episodes but it was described to me as by our boss as a great bit always found that fascinating i went in at had called into the office on the guy. Was this thing where you're where you're sort of pretending drunk and really hung over all the time and late and stuff like that. That's a great bit. Keep doing that okay. So did you recover from yesterday. Because what you did yesterday was interesting. You decided to put it out on twitter a you're in a ah sort of an abusive situation in your brain and he decided that you'd put a photo of yourself out on twitter. Okay let me have it no holding back in a big sign reading roast me and he took a selfie and everybody pretty much went to town on you. I recovered emotionally from all that well. I'll tell you what steve okay. I've <hes> you know for years and years <hes> i i'd love i'd love canadians. I love canadian humor because it's self deprecating stuff where we just. We just kill each other. I've always always enjoyed that. I particularly enjoyed making it. My mantra steve one end up doing gigs and stuff and i don't feel bad steve about the stuff. I've said about people okay. I don't feel bad for one freaking second. Okay i challenge. I challenge anyone steve on on on my twitter <hes>. What is it yeah right right now. It's it should be lying face down down crying. His should be my twitter handle okay. It should be should be like. I don't wanna live anymore. That's what my twitter randall should be. Some people lead with their chin. That was just like that's a whole other level that you took it to where there you want to hear some of the feedback since we last spoke yeah for sure my my favorite my favorite one is sean williams pug mccollum <hes> and you've taken some pretty hard runs sean on in the past and his comment about your photo was when jungle goes camping the bears hide their food in the trees which i think you took a shot at him with the same line <hes> somewhere along the way that's true. He said that was always his favorite line. I love sean. He was always a big listener to the show and yeah he always told me that sel to their lots of references to relic from the beachcombers galloway walter walter prager <hes> lever seventeenth so this is what letting yourself go looks like the matrix with kind of a weird one <hes> i'd roast i do but i've heard that could negatively impact the unborn child in your womb yeah what the hell was. I didn't think i took a fat pitcher steve. I i got a little fat you know and maybe also shot at your manhood is well in that one yeah yeah yeah. It must be love. The love love the strategic placement of the foam blocking your chins a jungle iron your shirt and your face. I got jordan leg rights after friends matthew. Athey perry really went off the rails. Your shirt is more wrinkled than your twig and berries okay. How do they know that. I guess ho- hockey lobster was. I don't know what's seen on time with my wrinkled twig and berries. Are you really ball jim. Irs is your neck just blowing a bubble boy okay. That's that's you do it. I think it just goes on some of the way i'm i'm surpri- we have a really good listener base and i'm really excited about the number of people who are checking us out but i'm also a little concerned about about <hes> some of the listeners with some of the stuff. They're happy to just throw out there and just absolutely annihilate like i say steve. That's the last time that's that's the last time ever apologizing for carbon. Someone up never again paranoia. Though well these guys anyway take run to them next time to put their picture up yeah exactly okay so <hes> we've also got a thing here <hes> and this is a from our old co host stuntman stu ladies ladies and gentlemen and he put a today that i found interesting. There's a whole list of nineteen eighties movies and i was shocked at how much which of my life i've wasted like he put out a list and it's <hes> voicing satan. It's a list of thirty six eighties movies. How many have you seen and it was very troubling to me that i'd seen thirty four and a gummy to breaking that down like and these are like teenage years right where you can do anything sure your job. You're not like you know if no responsibilities. You're physically fit all that well i i. I've seen thirty four of them. I said to myself. I've wasted my life effectively. If you have an eighties movie like what would you say would be in the top five. Give me the give me oreo. Whatever just give randomly give me five and i'll see if i was a real movie guy or not kale. Give it to you in groups of six and you can react to one okay say get <hes> pretty in pink the breakfast club the gooney short-circuit weird science. It's never saw the goni never shows short-circuit never saw the signs. Some scientists <unk> it easy for you to say the laws. The lost boys better off dead trading places gremlins and e t this will surprise you <hes> <hes> i've only seen i've only seen the lost boys never saw grants. I've never seen a t really yeah. I never did that. One yeah and it's all over netflix again. Gremlins never saw a whatever you said <hes> ep something else when i saw lost boys that's where their van pires or something. Is this correct donald. Sutherland's boy a keefer another piece of trivia kiefer sutherland. I played golf off with him in victoria just a wisp of a thing just he's. He's one of these very small while the shortest guys i've ever scene nice guy. It was a two three day event in victoria right. I've mentioned this before with the court. Brothers had a tournament where they raised a million bucks in a five year olds first time i've ever seen this to raise a bunch of money to build a wing onto the hospital twelve verbs sixteen bedroom wing to house people homelessness and mental illness and and they did it in three years they raised all the money they need so the only have it three years which was kind of cool steve because because a lot of charities keep going back to the well so <hes> anyway kiefer sutherland was one of the one of the celebs and they had a they had adam unbelievable amount of them and because ross played in l._a. He lives in victoria. The thompson family who we all worked for steve is the rich. I think the richest family in canada on the global mail bell globe and a million other things so they gave him this plane to fly down <hes> empty and pick up a bunch of slips. I saw a bunch of game like kid rock. <hes> pamela anderson kiefer sutherland couple of guys from the eagles chad krueger michael boob lados was jam-packed impact anyway. I play the game of golf with with kiefer sutherland. He was terrific. He was unbelievable with the crowd. However steve for a small guy he can pack a punch man. We're in a in a bar that night and they kind of had it roped off and and you know after about half an hour that got that that got thrown down and everyone's just mauling sutherland coming in to say hello and stuff like that and he was super nice super considerate and he was he kind of innocent league gave a girl a peck on the cheek you know she she wanted up kissing all this the stuff and he was he was obliged and as he did that someone someone sleekly steve took a picture of him and he on the flash went off and they were doing it quietly because it said no pictures and he saw it steve and in one foul swoop steve he let go of the girl stop doug air stepped onto a coffee table like a little low low table that was around around these coaches and fluid the guy like a lemur jumping from branch to branch yeah full on grabbed the guy by the ad had you know sort of threw aside. He's only he's only five six. Maybe and grabbed the camera through it on the ground. It crushed it and started screaming at the guy you know. I've been more cooperative than anybody out here. I posed for pictures and and doing everything and hugging people and and you know you gotta take it too far. You piece of shit you know just hammered into the point. Where is it keeps kief. Let's walk it off. You know we went outside and had a little stroll so anyway. I like the guy great guy. He's a great guy so so when you say pack a punch you didn't actually punch the guy though way they would've he would have but they stepped in right. You know the steps including myself. I got in there in sort of held them away with with with one finger and that's a different time now obviously the <hes>. It seemed more intrusive back then right when you're this is before cell phone cameras cameras right back then it seemed like a bigger deal to take someone's photo at a bad time. There'd be nothing you can do about it now. Jeeze you can't hear phones going off that is going all all the time and <hes> different days yep and you can catch people you know in sorta mid move when they're doing something innocent and it looks like they're you're gonna grab a girl sorta deal right and it's like no no. He's reaching for his drink. Their you know reaching for the girl so all right. Let's launching jay today. We've got <hes> of course the big news on our last episode was calling white re-signing with the ottawa senators and we came up with a simple pole today. How many points will the newly designed call in white get with ascend's now that he's resigned thirty five to forty five points forty five to fifty five fifty five to sixty five or sixty five or over only one percent said over sixty five points and about half the crowd thinks it's going to be a pretty modest scoring season for calling white at forty five to fifty five points fifty two percent leading the way there and got a bit of feedback on it as well well rb computing. Our sponsor of the chimes in not enough is their answer her <hes> fake bobby duff writes the tony kornheiser theory that someone's got a score for that team gary t rights. He's got a nose for the net. He's a good skater and we'll get lots of power playtime with brady ca chuck peer rights. I'm not sure he'll really light it up. All that much i said forty five to fifty five because he's he's capable player and needs a number one center ahead of him to kind of draw away the coverage a few outliers on yesterday's poll as to what people thought of of the colon white signing sends office ralph good member of the show rights is the start of some stability. Let's see if we can continue on this trend sends fans would certainly appreciate it and again today from our members only hotline to see the member starting to use the hotline samore. Tony zane is encouraged by signing a warranty great show regarding regarding colin white signing. I think that's a first piece of good news. That's come along in a while so i'm grateful for that. <hes> however until they get chabad into a new deal i won't be renewing by. I season tickets that being said once they do get those two guys signed. I think it probably be a good omen as far as getting chuck signed up long-term so get chabad lot done. I renew my season tickets. Love to hear what you think about that. All right. Thank you tony. I think a lot of people feel that way so many people in fact like tony love the team the ready ready to throw a bunch of money at it. They just want to know that the guy who owns the team is gonna throw some of his money added as well and that is not remotely unreasonable <hes> wanna thank tony for using the members members only hotline and if you'd like to become a member and used the hotline yourself checkout steve w project dot com click on the members tab and <hes> yeah lots of other benefits as is well on speaking of ripping on teams. You know i've been a little tough on the on the sense daily got nothing and people. This is the the biggest thing to happen since they stopped playing last year and since the head coaching hiring i'd say yeah the head coaching and and but you know what steve it really takes. I mean a perfect world. You want youth to to rebuild and you want experience experience on the same team to help the youth <hes> you got the veteran presence blah blah blah guys who've been there before all that stuff although all those cliches but it really takes everything to go your way to not only make the playoffs <hes> i mean you don't need a hundred percent percent everything to drop in your direction but you sure need a ton you know not to mention to get through a round not to mention to get to the final and then win the stanley only cup so many things have to align you know and the other one's steve is luck you you gotta have a bunch of luck and peop- people i forget that you know we're talking to the other day about our that that show we did on the kids. You know that that god you panic about kids with all the stuff. They're faced with these days but but but both of us agreed a bunch of it. Is you know. Please help me god you know i hope i hope they're okay. You know and <hes> look at vegas. Steve look at vegas no one no one predicted that one. Do you have to go back that far. I mean look at the two number one seeds and they were number one seeds by a long shot in tampa bay in calgary and they were gone quickly in the first round. Tampa swept ridiculous like you know. I think you're right. There's some luck that goes with it. Officiating you get the bad call here and there or a coach that has your number <hes> that <hes> just figures out a way to play you. That really eliya takes away kind of your fire. That's the basics of hockey. It's it's almost not fair. Even that you you bust your ass <music> you work so hard you put on skill on display for months and months and the regular season to dominate. You're the best teams and then when you come down to what you know ten to fourteen day window where you you suddenly have a you're on your heels for a minute and then it's over. I think the english in terms of fairness english premier league has it right. They play a regular season the winner at the end of that whoever's got the most points at the end there your champion. There are no the playoffs but it's certainly not the most exciting way to do it. It just died. There's a there's a real randomness. That's crept in now that anybody can win. As long as you get into the playoffs anyway well before we get too far away from the poll on remind people that is brought to you by rb computing we certainly had some bad storms over the course of the summer and they can wreak havoc on your computers electronics so recall rb computing today and they'll make sure your computers electronics are protected for a limited time. Get a twenty percent discount on all services for listeners who come in and mentioned they heard the add on on the project rb computing dot com one oh six men in place in bells corners of course our show would not be possible with jim kaye ford or ford employee. Pricing pricing is back for a limited time. You pay for employees paying select new vehicles. Now's the time of the best election day the fortieth year on ford employee pricing in the new ad home test drive have now on a gym k ford you drive in orleans or jim kaye ford dot com also got all insurance ontario on board as our good friends. Don't waste time shopping around for insurance on your own just text all insurance ontario there at six one three eight six zero six zero zero eight. They'll hook you up with the best insurance rates every every time. They've got your back visit all in dot c._a. Or text them six one three eight six zero six zero zero eight all insurance ontario your modern boutique broker now if you've picked up a newspaper and auto over the last few days you'll know the annual sun scramble is on. It's a big event for club e._g. And i'm with jamie ryan and andy ra- mahaffy from club e. g. along with philadelphia flyer captured closure ru who will talk to in just a moment. This is city championship week. It is a great week and a very fun event. I always take part in the media event of this always oblast so <hes> okay we'll go to andy. I and maybe and you could tell us a little bit about how the week is going. The week is going <unk> extremely well. <hes> we started on monday mannerly <hes> and did last seven days all the way to championship sunday at eagle creek. It's been a lot of fun so far early mornings a lot of work but like i said we're having fun along the way <hes> some good golf a lot of grinding from a lot of great teams so it's a lot of excitement this week. What's it's the feedback you get from golfers why this tournament is generally so successful and why why guys seemed to like it too main answers to that. I think the way that the tournament setup it makes the golfers feel like they're in a professional. Environment is not often you get the b._c. Golfers out there to play in an environment like this so you know there's something on the line they like competing and they're going first city championship titles so that's exciting and the format is a two percents scramble so it takes takes a little bit of pressure off so you're a bit more comfortable there. Obviously you're having a lot of fun with a partner. Usually a teammate is a good friend or a or a father or brother so <hes> you know when they get out there. There's opportunities to have a lot of strategy and i think that <hes> all leads to a great a great tournament. Jamie ryan <hes>. Let's <hes>. Let's get your vibe on <hes> on how this week has gone so far. It's been wonderful. The weather's been great. We had a couple clouds ed's role by but most of all we got sunshine and great weather and but a thousand golfers playing with us all in all the categories so it's been great how many two years now this is year fifteen while so how has it grown from day one to where we are now first year we just wanted to have a tournament tournament and we did an open division and a senior division all at eagle creek and then slowly we just introduced new divisions and now we have a division division for those issues over one hundred and they love it and it's a lot of those guys you know it's the first time competing so it's a new experience for them and a lot of them actually slee move up from <hes> dita see the next year but we need a lot of the new golfers joining the division because that's really the most fun good stuff so maybe <hes> a word on how you include made nato today. Claude is an amazing competitor. He's very intense and he hits the driver a very long way so <hes> <hes> this tournament a lot of it comes down to putting so we had a lot of fifteen footers that would just weren't dropping and we back birdies on the back and we are pretty pumped about that we thought are we gonna bring it home but unfortunately back-to-back bogeys right after that so we did not make the cut but we just love competing and love the rush of this unscramble title so with that let us bring on clo- drew one of the finest talk you players and all the national hockey league captain of the philadelphia flyers and more importantly jamie's partner today so maybe i share with us the kind of day it was. I know it probably wasn't the number you wanted to go. Yeah we started pretty slow and and now we're a little frustrate out. Starwood can make any pot so <hes> obviously when you <hes> your download try to catch up and then we had a few birdies on the back back to get us back in it and then we're just forcing a little too much and we're <hes> got to bogus aw little frustrating but the n._f._c. We're here to compete and have fun so it was it was good. Do you wanna win. Here is badly almost as you want to win in the n._h._l. And that's actually a problem. I still haven't instead word to my partner yet. <hes> not mad at him but i'm just mad at this situation and when we <hes> every year we try to climb and make it to the final round and we can't. We can't get there but i mean. I guess it's like hockey if you don't if you don't practice you get good and mystic to hockey. I think think for for this year. Tell us about your summer. How are things going good. I gotta little baby boy coming up in the next next few weeks here and so <hes> that's very exciting and a lot of good things happen with the flyers so the summer's been good <hes> enjoying i during the weather's that's been actually not too bad in ottawa this <hes> this summer and but like i said i'm very excited for everything going here so this is your first child right that is correct rest assured it won't change your life a bit so don't worry about that. What about preparations for it has been crazy busy. Yeah i mean anytime you have your first shali. You wanna make sure you're you're prepared. You know what you're doing but as much as you study and read books in videos you won't really know until you get it so that's what i was told in <hes> but you know we're we feel like we're prepared or ready to <hes> to bring another member through our family and it's definitely something. I'm very very special in something very excited that we're the next few weeks. It's gonna be a life changing nice. We're joined by philadelphia flyers captain claude. Maybe you tell us <hes> because you and i had many conversations in past summers working out with tony greco. You've been on the radio show before maybe share with us how the training is gone this year. Yeah ah tony tony do he's. He's someone that works hard and he'll find a way to get the extra step this summer. We've been i mean. I can't really compare it to your summers because every summer we go hard but you know we. We tried to get stronger faster every year. We find other ways to to to get that done and i'm very satisfied as how the train has been the summer. You always come back to ottawa every year. You've got home and philadelphia but you're also call auto home. What is it about auto. I mean you did a good chunky growing up here obviously but <hes> always come back to ottawa. Maybe share with us. Why you love coming back home i moved to when i was fourteen so i have a lot of <hes> <hes> close friends a lot of family members in ottawa also and my wife's from ottawa and it's just you know off season. You wanna go somewhere where you feel comfortable and feel comfortable here so every summer. There's been great sometimes too long of a summer but <hes> you know it's. It's always fun to come back for the anxious to get back on the ice. Yeah like i said the summers being a little too long. You gotta make a little playoff push air to to shore this summer a little bit now last season. We've gone through this sort of back and forth thing with the flyers where it's been missed the playoffs. Make the playoffs miss. The playoffs classmates plassnik player and it's been back and forth like that. Maybe a share with us what your excitement level is for the new season. You've got a new head coach some new bodies as well. Maybe talk a little bit if you could about what what you like about the team this year to two years ago. We made the playoffs in <hes> we <hes> we fell short and i but we have we had a good team in last year was kind of a roller coaster. Are we <hes> we ended up having a new coach new g._m. <hes> some new players new faces and it was kind of a roller coaster year and got to happen really quick quick so <hes> but you know what this show in new coach new g._m. We have some new some new faces with brown and niskanen hayes. Can you guys coming in that have experienced. We feel like we have a more <hes> more veteran team an older team that <hes> know what they want and how we wanna play so it's <hes>. It's something like you said every year. It's been up and down and and i feel like this l. o. Vigna's here quite a bit in the summer whereas well. I wonder if you had a chance to sit down with him and talk to him and get a sense of what he's all about. Yeah we ended up having a little dinner a supposed to be only an hour ended up being two and a half hours and we just chat about the team the organization what kind of team we want and you know he. He's a he's a coach really well prepared and just just listening to him. Talk about hockey. It's he's a coach. That's been around for for a while and you. He understands the game very well. So just i want meeting that i had one. I'm really got got me excited to to be able to work with them. You've got one of the youngest starting goalies in all all the n._h._l. In carter t just turned twenty one. I think about ten days ago <hes> maybe share with us where you're at with keep saying share. I don't know why i keep saying shared jamie cher with us. What do you think of carter heart and mean. He is such a good goal tender and he's so young. What are your expectations for him this year yeah so let me share a little you know he's last year. He came and i think we broke. We ate goalies playing for us so so <hes> when he came up i think it was after christmas and he came in and kinda. Kinda take took over and he played a lot of games for us. We had a lot of injuries for goalies and what he came in. He kinda relaxed everything. He did a great job in that he made us feel comfortable and for twenty year old to come in and make everybody else feel comfortable. You don't see that often so it's something we're really excited about having a young goaltender like that you know he's young but he doesn't. He doesn't act or play young so he's very mature kid and he's got his head is when <hes> when the puck drops. He's ready to go he. He knows what he has to do. You focus on themselves often. You can't ask for anything else. Good stuff plo jerus- joining us from the philadelphia flyers. I was just a couple more. I was noticing today claude that they're only seven guys in the league have been a captain of their team longer than you have. Do you like that role. Aw and how would you describe yourself in that rule. Yeah i love the role you know to be able to <hes> to be the captain of n._h._l. And i shall team. It's it's a great honor. I don't think we've had the success that we we think we we should have but you know i'm thirty. One people might might say. I'm getting a little older but i don't. I don't feel older so you know. I have a lot of years here to to kind of prove that maybe i can show a little bit more as a leader but the age of hockey <hes>. It's not really one guy that leads. It's it's four or five guys on the team. That's on the same page and and being able to lead a team together and your voices is stronger like that and i think i have. I have some good assistance in doesn't really have to to be an assistant captain. It could be a veteran. That's been through a lot and being able to communicate and so we make sure we communicate together and it's not it it's all about we'll just one guy on a team. It's about four or five guys being able to to be on the same page and share the message fish with the guys on the team he had such great bounceback year two years ago and honestly i should have been right there in the hart trophy discussion over one hundred points after having mm stats wise anyway not your normal numbers so you have over one hundred points in the eighty five points this past season so yeah as an observer. You look like you're right there at aged thirty one looking like the same player. You always have been i wonder have you given any thought visions to how long you see yourself playing this game. Uh since i turned thirty a lot of people ask me that question is how many years you left before and <hes> you know the only answer i got. I gotta go one year time. I'm and i'm gonna play as long as i can. I love the game. I love being a part of a group franchises like the flyers and i'm gonna play as long as i can dan. I'm going to play till they tell me. I'm not good enough so the only thing i can do is summers like this the the summer just make sure i prepare myself the best i can. I'm sure when camp starts. I'm in good shape and i think if i can do that. I can play for a long time so you see guys playing until they're forty forty. One obviously obviously the percentage of that is not high but that's my goal right now closed really a treat to talk to you best of luck in the coming season and thanks for joining us on the podcast cast tobacco as a good look player macaroni rape. Thanks once again to close up. The philadelphia flyers next to catch up with cloud and best of luck to everybody at the ottawa. I son scramble as we continue along here with the s. w._p. Podcast presented by all insurance ontario rb computing and jim kaye ford award steve. I love every morning i still with my ego and my narcissism stephen control when i hear you read ah i hear you read the gym. I oh when you first started. I always think it's about me and then it's it's jim cape. 'cause 'cause the ad the ad that you read or or or whipping off the top of your head or whatever it's all good. Is you know the show wouldn't be possible if it wasn't for jim kane. I was gonna jump in there. You know we always hundred children well. Thanks jim okay good. You're we're a bottomless pit when it comes to attention and praise. Aren't you terrible. It's absolutely terrible awful. I'm wondering if this call in white thing just to finish up up with it does anything to the r f market <hes> because it's been stuck the r._f._a. Market in the league right now. It's like it needs a big can of w._d. W._d. forty to get it unstuck the mitch martyr thing most people think is what has it stuck and everybody else is figuring okay. Marnie has got the most opportunity to get the biggest deal because he's in toronto where you've got some comparables who are crazy good in two virus and in austin matthews so so in that case mourners situation where he can truly argue that i need to be paid like those guys and he'll probably get the biggest contract and that will also leave as a domino effect comparables for guys like matthew joke in calgary still no deal vancouver's brooke besser still no deal mingo rant and in colorado same thing brain point with tampa cow connor and patrick line with winnipeg and it's generally thought that martyr is going to be the guy that sets it's the market but we're getting awfully late in the game here where we're starting to think about okay. Is this guy gonna go over and play in europe and wait for his contract or is he going to cold out or whatever because i bet you all these other guys aren't real jacked about the idea at least not all of them about maybe holding through training camp yeah. It's it all in a perfect world. Steve all the names would be you know you do all your negotiations. Somehow try not let it out okay and then they would all have to be released the same day you know what i mean. You're right in a in a perfect world but as a fan right it certainly is shitty taste in in your mouth. You signed the guy you know. Get them. Get them out there. But that's reality that's reality in in hockey. There is an old senate who did get a new deal yesterday. Just a one year contract act and <hes> derek carr played for the ottawa senators for a couple years was quite good here and <hes> he a one year deal with the new york islanders thirty two years of age and his stats were not good fourteen goals nine assists in seventy games last season bouncing around with pittsburgh florida and colorado and he's a good example aw of one of the finest arts there is when it comes to being a g._m. In sports and that's realizing when it's time them to turn the page on a player. It's the hardest thing i think there is to do you can get a guy who's still in his prime but maybe not left much juice left in the a tank and you trade him while he's still popular and still good. That's i think the hardest thing for any g._m. Do and the sends deserve a lot of credit for for trading away brisard when they did because not only did. They get some good stuff for them. I mean brassard has done nothing really since he left ottawa and the sends ended up with a first rounder which they spun into jacob bernard docker and they also have maybe a goalie of the future. They picked up who was a former m._v._p. At the world juniors in <hes> philip gustafsen soon those are two pretty nice assets to give up for brisard. Who's now signing one year contracts for almost rookie elbow yup. I mean people have to get their head around. I'm steve that everyone is overpaid a lot of people's reaction all the time when someone holds out or they're they're <hes>. They're dragging their feet. They're using this deal where they can wait to get you know this case of marta that you just showed you know most people's reactions my god you know how or if i had that kind of money bubba well. The reality is it's all big money. But what was the story the other day steve. I liked it where there was a g._m. I am <hes> who bunch of success last year. Whichever team it was and <hes> everyone assumed they would just re-sign the guy yeah that was that was don waddell l. and <hes> he's the general manager of the carolina hurricanes and tom donahue the owner of the hurricanes. He's got his own way of doing things. He's a little like eugene melnyk that way like i'm not going to be a you know lemmings to the see here. I'm going to financially operate this team. The way i feel like it should be financially. Operated and melniks is a bit like that as well and he basically said the guy well <hes>. If you think you can get more feel free to shop the market look around and i into sort of wild actually interviewed. The guy billy garin by the way was hired as the wild g._m. Yesterday but in the case of dell. I guess it didn't pan out there and he ends up back with carolina caroline. I don't know if it's a tail between his legs scenario. I would say the don waddell had zero stock this time last year and carolina went and hired him and it worked out great is he <hes> took over for ron francis and the carolina hurricanes had their best season in about a decade and you thought it would have been an automatic but it really wasn't because as a tom dunton and the way he does things but they eventually got to deal done yeah. I liked that. You don't see it very often. Gotta make a deal. We gotta make a deal you know. Aren't you gonna resign me. I'm really i was really good. Well we might we might do honestly think it's probably smart play. Tom dunn dunn substance dumb stuff. I would say you know dumping hundreds of millions of dollars in the american alliance of football that would be among the dumb things he's done. Maybe took it at a tax. Write off. I have no idea but here yeah he recognized. There was no market for dawa because he so recently was seen as someone who's on nobody's radar. He got him signed him and he had a great year good for him but i still don't think there was very much of a market for them around the n._h._l. The guys getting on in years <hes> and he was thought of as the guy that was the the atlanta thrashers g._m. And of course we all know they didn't do very much as an n._h._l. Franchise i so i think it's probably a smart play but the point i'm getting out with derek persad though is is that it's such a difficult thing and it's a it's the basics of business. It's a tough thing for gm's to sell high because when the guy's a and when the stock is high on a guy whether it's a player or coach. Everybody loves them and it's an unpopular thing to do when you sell high but it's something you gotta do. If you want to be successful yeah you know some people fall into the <hes> the the myth steve that <hes> you know it's tough for teams to make money you know in the n._h._l. So you know they they begin to feel sorry. Every once in a while for the club saying oh my god you know the salaries they gotta pay and and the league minimum is gone away up and <hes> you know you gotta spend so much money are guys you know and people are like by hate on a sheltie you know and and and some of that can happen in smaller markets but i always use the example <hes> and apparently they're the most successful sports franchise of all time uh-huh and i i. I don't know what it's like over in europe with somebody soccer team the new york yankees is who i'm referring to talk about what the most successful franchise and and people are saying. Oh my god you know there. I remember when they're saying their their team. Salary was seventy million or something. You know route not not not too long ago. What is it now two hundred two hundred million and how frequently do this. You know well. Something like this is years ago to study the media rights to broadcast yucky games. <hes> george steinbrenner was around. I'm sure it's still sane was was something that they got something like a hundred and fifty million a year you know for for broadcast rights for the yankees the merchandise sales you you know. How many times have you seen someone wearing and why hat you know the yankees hot. It's through the roof. It's absolutely astronomical. Well you know the amount of dough before before they've even sold a ticket steve that amount of dough that they have coming in and i remember alex rodriguez when he was. You're looking at re-signing uniquely. He said that's fine but i want a piece of the action. I wanna piece of the merch sales when he he may have got it he may not. I forget so you don't need to have a tag day as my father used to say. You don't need me vo whatever that means. I have no idea but you don't need to feel feel. Sorry for you know a lot of professional sports franchise. They make a lot of money. They make lots of dome so he is looking at the yes network which is take the yankees network t._v. Network is and <hes> they back in march. They bought back the s. network. <hes> believe from fox back for four billion dollars. That's a lot of money jesus. Yes yes so you know that there's a lot of money changing hands each each and every year probably way way more than what the yankees are paying out in terms of player payroll and but it's crazy yes someone tried ride to corner <hes> wayne gretzky one time when he signed a contract and said you know blah blah blah. Wayne must be happy whatever you know. He played for four teams teams. You know evanston l._a. Saint louis for a minute and then and then he tired retired with the rangers and one of the one of the interviewers that oh my gosh wayne <hes> really at the end of the day. This is a lot of money isn't it will and and wayne said it is it is is but you need to know something. I've made a lot of people a lot more money zipper it. You know i deserve every penny i can get at so and i agree with that. Don't don't blame the player if this guy <hes> negotiates a contract and gets more than you thought the holding out the those <unk> steve just always drove me bananas so certainly annoying when that when that occurs bugs. I think a lot of fans you look at brock besser right now. Who's one of the bright a young talents in the n._h._l. He's in vancouver of course since july first. He's been eligible for contract and holding out his probably the wrong word here used is to be able to hold out in the n._h._l. We actually have a contract and you're looking to renegotiate that to me was a true hold right now blockbuster and all these other are f.a.s.t call him white mitch martin and the like they. They don't have a contract so they can do whatever they want but it's still a bit frustrating when you see the kind of money they're being offered and they're going no that's not quite there rock blockbusters agent with ben hankinson and he's looking for a four year extension at around seven million dollars a year for his client and so oh he's comparing himself to team meyer in san jose and he got a four year twenty four million dollar deal back in july so it's all about the comparables of course and and it's all quite annoying and i wanted to talk a little bit on the annoying front about the most annoying is in n._h._l. History <hes> it was m._s._n. Today they decided they would do a a big pool and they came up with a twenty most annoying players in n._h._l. History and i think i got my top five like who would be off the top of your head the guys that you wanted this fan. You're grinning your teeth and he just wanted to punch that guy in the face. Maybe more than any other player. I'll there was i don't know who i'm talking about. I don't know if i know his name. A new will <hes> <hes> and then later later in life. He was created awareness. <hes> when he's a junior player i was sheldon kennedy. The guy who's first guy guy who stood in front of the goalie to block his view all the time 'cause you're thinking of <hes> sean avery probably yeah okay whoever that do you remember that move we. He just stood in front of the goalie <hes> that was that was pretty annoying. I was found that pretty north of course the guy i would say the guy from boston for recent players. There's <hes> marshawn must be way up. We ask forgot about him. Brad marshall must weigh up on that list yet for sure <hes> but you're right about avery like is not just that that moment boy i mean the way he played the game you such a weasel stick man and some of the crap beat say in public some of it funny but way off side like the sloppy seconds reference reference <hes>. I'm really happy to be back in calgary. I love canada. I just wanted to comment on how to become like a common thing and the n._h._l. For guys nice to fall in love with my sloppy seconds but that's about enjoy the game tonight why just and it was like it was like he's just a stepping up to the microphone was a media scrum and it's like making an announcement like this. You know yeah this this line that he wanted to throw out there find kind of weird that all these guys at their sofa darcy tucker i think would be on mo- sense fans endless. Oh sure sure right rad. Marsh and that's a great one. It's not even on the list. I couldn't believe it. Claude lemieux would be a classic. Yeah clothes clogged dirty clothes dirty yup dale hunter an absolute beauty. I thought you might be all over because he played for a little while. The edmonton oilers probably more time with the philadelphia flyers kenny lensman. Oh sure oh yeah right yeah. I was thinking when i went through the oilers. The guy who jumps <music> out right away but only annoying if you're playing against the others was a s._a._t. Can men were really really annoyed a lot of people when any player he's one of the original showers remember where he would stick to guy like glue and people were totally frustrated. I love shrimp though nobody knew what he was actually saying the counting on almost broke into your dominant kasha eddie i almost i almost did totally anyway. Yeah he was annoying when i think of the of course which i do all the time but are they taken in and hashtag had the same tongue they shared the same tongue yeah bobby witt by uber not gonna teach them one day. All the buffalo rebound on your powell. Marty mcsorley made the list is surprised about that. I thought he was like yeah. Y'all beasley had the infamous donald brashear share incident where he basically decided he's going to play t. ball with the head of donald brashear but beyond that he'd fight for sure but i didn't i never thought of him as anything more than an enforcer no but when you say his name then you say i don't know where that comes to mind right away the up. He's on the list. Oh there's no excuse for the steve moore thing. You've also got a surprise gordie. Howe made it. I know he is mr elbows and everything but i didn't know he was considered that dirty chris chris pronger tie. Domi chris pronger was annoying player while we're talking about annoying dirty all definitely dirty dirty makes you annoying sure sure how ron hextall of course he and billy smith probably the most violent goalies in n._h._l. History matt cook maimed maimed bunch of guys over the years including air carlson. Was that intentional. We'll never know. I'd love to have a conversation. I hope i bump into a golf tournament at some point and and maybe a few drinks into him. Did you do a little step eastep. Little step dancer is that one that one was that accidental <hes> rounding out the list i'll off samuelson eddie shore brian marchment for his kneeing act and dave schultz on there as well so some of the dirtiest guys in h. L. history wreck eh <unk> tuesday your member steve. It was really frightening that people go what is wrong with this guy when they saw what he did. This bad luck in there. I will still maintain my dying day. That was bad luck in there as well. It's dirty violent play but it could easily have been a scenario where you know maybe steve moore lands a different way and <hes> you know he gets pancaked and everything but maybe it's not necessarily as bad as situation. The result is what made it so so terrible. I've seen way in the n._h._l. Them that what was the result seemed to fall on him like underneath his body or something what was yeah i mean he fell on them and then everybody piled on and he's you know it was it just it's just the way the guy lately he punched him in the back back of the head and then sort of pile drove him and i don't think he thought in a million years he do the kind of damage that he actually did but steve moore <hes>. I'm surprised he's like he wasn't more ready for should've known a guy was chasing him and it was almost like he thought that well if i don't make eye contact with the guy's not going to come after me no it doesn't work that way and so he didn't really prepare himself. I'm not blaming the victim here but anyway choosy hits him in the back of the head and then full weight on the back of them and it just everything everything just landed awkwardly at that stage where all kinds of head problems neck problems. The guy was never right again. Never played a single game in the league yeah and then what we started looking into it or listeners did back then because people say what what is wrong with this guy was really the the followed from matt right this guy's insane <unk> and people went way back in his career and started giving examples of what he had done over his whole hockey career <hes> and and one of the crazy things that came out of that was <hes>. Was it a premeditated thing and and everyone said it doesn't look like it's just like you were talking. You know maybe it was in the heat of the moment until people said oh yeah well back in his junior day or or midget tay or something. Maybe maybe even further back. He chased a bus of the opponents team with apparently with his stick and the heel of his stick and smashes ashes on the side of the bus well. It was pulling away. You know it was a very premeditated. Things like obviously a lot of anger was simmering their former sense assistant coach and and head coach briefly mark crawford a lot of people think that <hes> there was a directive potentially from the head coach because the look on mark crawford's face after the incident and right after it like immediately it was like the cat that ate the canary sort of like ha- like it was premeditated though there's no question about that because this was pay-back back for steve moore with little chicken wing through the neutral zone on markus naslund and <hes> law knock naslund goofy for a second and of course the connects were livid about that and brad may talk about it. We talked about okay next time around there was almost a bounty put out on steve moore and so there you may have been a an anger that was simmering there but there was lots of opportunity for toddler tuesday to get his feet under him say whoa whoa whoa simmer down here dude and and <hes> and not do what he did so payback's <hes> what it was all about it was a full case of revenge and <hes> the n._h._l. Has been really. It's been funny because anybody that speaks even remotely in the form of bounty. You know i'm going to get that guy next time or whatever when the public was stuff like that the teams all all over that hey he will because if something happens to that guy in the next game like a steve moore situation whether it's intentional or not then everybody gets litigious yeah dave dave brown who played for the others. I was right up there with all the other fighters of being the toughest guy in the league we sorta he was so tough right and mark messier always said the problem with fighting a guy like that dave brown or dave sumengkar bob probert vert and a member of mess always said the problem with fighting those three guys propert making <hes> dave brown is one punch one punch not only could have put you out for six to eight weeks wchs it might change your whole career. You know those guys were and i remember stu. Grimson was playing couch and of course the great rivalry the calgary and and everyone was anticipating this fight you know liam would love this stuff right because it was good as he called good old fashioned hockey right then and they dropped the gloves before the puck even dropped and <hes> stu grimson sorta held his own with dave brown <hes> which was a surprise students who was very tough to and in fact he got haymakers so much they called him the the grim receiver was his nickname anyway the interview dave brown and after the guy kind of held held his and brownie said i think we play them again in four days right and that's that's stuff i'm talking about. That's right and he wouldn't do that anymore. You know but back in the day <hes> you know we're we're guys fought defended. Their <hes> defended their players. <hes> you know if you if you if you cross checked of forward you know a superstar guy non fighter while you're gonna get your face filled and when you bring that story <hes> about how can change your career completely. If you fight the wrong guy so you've dirk bogarde who's no longer with us inviting fighting ottawa's matt cartner and you know when you have a situation like that now you've got two guys that can change another guy's life because they're so big and so tough and they can absolutely land these haymakers and the last fight dirk bogarde ever got in in his final. The game hasn't n._h._l. Player was with matt carpenter and cartner landed a punch. That was the most flush punch i've ever seen because most of the time you throw a punch. The fish keeps going right. It just keeps going past the jar. Whatever past the guy it was like on the button fist went nowhere and boo guard took the entire blow of that and it wouldn't be that much longer that he was gone from accidental drug and alcohol over overdose while recovering from that concussion and it just like to just to see the kind of damage that these guys were able to inflict a not blaming. I'm not saying cartner did it would that was a that was a long time where boo guard was taking medication was dealing with concussions but that was the toughest guy in the league at that stage that the most feared guy may be in the whole league the bogeyman they called him and you're absolutely right or your or messier was absolutely right that that these kinds of guys get in fights. They're not just <hes> <hes> not not just fighting for their teammates there in a way you know fighting for their lives when they take on these other big time enforcers yeah i i mean what you can look as far only as your backyard there in ottawa and jim kite. Excuse me ottawa guy comes to mind when he played for winnipeg and when you talk to talk to guys or even if you talk to jimmy kite about your role as a hockey player that he had ad. I think the guy has an argument that there's no tougher job back in the back in those days. You know it was just a given just to give who'd <unk> who'd i gotta fight tonight. You know every you know eighty eighty times a year man chances are you're gonna get tapped on the shoulder and say look after this this guy you know tough gig man tough gig and you want so badly to be part of it right lake it. You're in the n._h._l. And you love the guys on the team and you want to be part but you don't want to be excluded. <hes> there's probably a point in your life. Where you're you know one of the best players on your team but now it's just about you fighting and that's that's tough deal but you still you wanna be part of that n._h._l. Lifestyle do anything to stay there. Including you know when the when the coach comes to you and says you know ready to go well not really. I've got a separated shoulder and massive concussion right now. I probably shouldn't well okay. We'll get another guy then to be our enforcer tonight. Yeah guess who's not reporting. There are symptoms accurately and that's why we get into this medication abuse and these sad stories like this. It's definitely <hes> maybe the toughest job in sports sports yeah yeah. No no. I got a feeling steve. You went early in the show. You talked about the most annoying guys in hockey that everyone just wanted to freak and throttle now. I get a feeling steve. I often put myself in a in a position saying well if i if i played that sport you know i was a pro golfer or football player and be if i was a hockey player. I i get the feeling that i would be high on that. List of most annoying is uh-huh yeah. I'd say there's a hell of a chance for sure yeah all right. We got a we had a step away for a moment. I wanna talk about <hes> hawaii for random reason. Oh wait. You're going to hawaii as soon as you're done this show. We'll get to that in just a second. Hey you could shop around for insurance on your own. You could call the big companies and wait on hold forever or you can text the team at all insurance ontario the shop the market for you and hook you up with the best rates every time visit all ends dot c._a. Or tech six one three eight six zero six zero zero eight all insurance ontario. Your modern boutique broker ford employee pricing is back for a limited time at jim kaye ford board. Here's a works. You'll pay with ford employees. Pay on select new vehicles out there. Now is the time of the best selection to get the forty year ion ford employee pricing and let's is not forget the new ad home test drive. What a lovely little combo that is now on jim kaye ford you vill drive in new orleans and the ottawa sun scramble is our region's largest is golf tournament and it is on as we speak right now lasts until the twenty fifth of august and it's a great event and <hes> really urged people to play in it for you're next year and in conjunction with that event. We're pleased to announce free gulf fridays with club e._e._g. Golf it was josh and morgan that one last week and they're often do some golfing and it's time for another draw right now for free golf for two and it's a member only draw so if you wanna be a member with a whole bunch of other benefits as well click click on the link at steve w project dot com michael pearson is our winner of the free gulf well-done michael. Thank you very much be member and we'll be in touch shortly on how to pick up your golf prize you. My friend are going to be doing the next episode from lovely hawaii. Yeah i am steve and you know i gotta tell you this <hes> about this <hes> in our our shokhin from time to be serious and the things we talked talked about and we always come away going yeah. That was pretty good. You know and my ex wife alison is her name. I've been i've been a part for nine years. <hes> yet i remained close. I had to get out of the house steve in illinois. I needed to be booted out which i did <hes> nine and a half years ago <hes> <hes> but i remained. I remain close to the kids. I bought a house around the corner and i remember just telling the kids you know. How do you do this. How do you separate and divorce all oh and <hes> telling the kids. We just had one big house. You know it's just like the other the other side of it was you know three clicks away back in those days but <hes> <hes> you know our our i've remained close to them and and my ex wife allison and seven months ago we were you know have i was over the house sitting around with her and the kids and she dropped the bomb that she had cancer and you remember what i told you that it was us on a little. We innocent regular mammogram to make a long story short. It was a double mastectomy and survived that and in a super nice cool thing <hes> there's a lot of bucket list stuff that she's is looking at now right when when that happens you hear about it all the time and happens you said life's too short you know and so every year she takes takes kids on a trip and invited me to go down to come along on this trip. <hes> you know over to hawaii and i was just i was absolutely floored but <hes> you know oh. She said obviously life is too precious. We got we got three kids that she primarily raised for for many years and and so that's what i'm doing. That's what i'm doing and i don't know why bring it up but but maybe maybe other people out there you know can goliath is a little too short so you know i don't know what to say about that. You know stay close to your loved ones or or whatever because it could sure come out of left field on in a split second you know and so that's where a lot of guys don't get a kind of a chance for a do over right like i know that you'd love in in your hearts to have some things back and do things a little differently and you never will be able to do that but this feels like it's kind of that right. It feels feels like there's a chance to kind of be together as a family for a neat trip like that and i think that's <hes> that's pretty special things so hope you have a great time man thanks brother. The only snag steve is i'm going to i'm ended up in honolulu and they're going to a different place three islands away so i i said okay yeah me man waiting for you. They're so you thought you were close to the family. Homeless this stuff you into this fucking volcano down one okay right. They're hoping i wrap this fucking lay around your throat a bunch talk you little prick up when they throw him with the sharks. There's one right there so many opportunities. I can't believe steve steve. I just did the punching motion while i was doing that. It's radio anyway. We'll have fun man appreciate appreciate it as always end up and your efforts for still we'll make an shogo while you're while you're down there and if you know what i can i can certainly you know massage things and <hes> and figure things out for my if you're if you're tied up. We'll talk to you. Sunday sunday steve from the beautiful island of <hes> sunday. Okay brother take care of a fun goodnight. Everybody will see yellow aloha okay seal executive buyer hello. I don't know i don't miss my plane. I gotta go get pizza steve and.

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David Jablonski Interview

The Cincinnati and Dayton Sports Podcast

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David Jablonski Interview

"Give it up for day four of streak week where we have one episode a day from last Sunday to this upcoming Sunday and today's episode episode, one fifty nine is with David Jeb Lonski who's the beat writer for Dayton? Flyers photographer, for the Dayton Daily News also covering the Wittenberg Tigers. Cincinnati reds and Osu Football, definitely a fun interview. All eight of these interviews were great, and I enjoyed each and every one of them. That's why we're releasing them one a day on streak. Streak Week and without further ado episode one fifty nine on this Wednesday June seventeenth twenty twenty. It's episode one fifty, nine of the Cincinnati and Dayton sports podcast. Our special guests is David Job Lonski. The Dayton flyers beat writer and photographer for the Dayton Daily News David also covers the Wittenberg tigers and Cincinnati. Reds for the Springfield News, Sun and Hamilton Journal News where Talking Local Sports David's journalism career, how special the flyers were this past season and more on episode one fifty? Welcome to the Cincinnati and Dayton sports podcast with Lee. W Maolin. This is a weekly podcast covering all sports in Cincinnati Dayton Ohio from Lima to the Ohio River and Northern Kentucky from Eastern. Indiana to Madison County and all points in between. This is your source of local Cincinnati and Dayton. Ohio sports this the Lee wwl dot, com slash podcast. Find your favorite podcasting platform music created with the SPLASH APP time for another episode with your host Lee. W Mount One. And on the phone right now. Is David Job Lonski the Dayton flyers beat writer and photographer, and also writer for Wittenberg Tigers and sits Ni- reds. David, how you doing today? Good. Bucket I'm glad. That you're able to and thank you for your time today, so let's get started. Where are you from? Group Canal leader. Griffin will. How does? By by minute, drive from downtown, Cincinnati. Way Aren't you side on the country Mattie. High school the high, which is Very small high school we had about a hundred kids in school back into. Our twenty fifth reunion. Now, I am. Worried. So you know once downpayment was but I I loved it there now. Great Place to grow up and you know of course manager to experience the IRS from Cincinnati. Teams A. Long Time Ago How did you find yourself in Dayton? From the Cincinnati area? Cotton Company roar nineteen years. One My first job out of after graduating from my birthday was in a marriage Florida. With a doctor's training at the time, famous dodger tower that there the by. They moved to the years after that I left, but I was never about two years experience to spring training. Come back to Ohio. As I mentioned you know grew up their families all from the most famous from the date area, but my parents went to hold her high school. So you know I was looking for a job back in Ohio wanted to because the family, and I found a job at the Springfield new son in two thousand one. covered Wittenberg football. You know one of my first job for stories I think was. Probably on the recruiting class in two other one of the coach pitch. And I've been doing that story and I just. Almost, finish it today. For About Nineteen twenty years. Whatever anything that we're at now? kind of crazy I've been covered with verbal that long. So that's that's how I got into the company. Of course you know Springfield of Cox back then and still is. We were pretty much separate papers back. Then we share stories of the same company, but you know we both support staff of. Three or four sports writers, and now to use for staff back then but you know in two thousand twelve. They really revamp the staff, and that's how I kind of came up came to be doing more Dayton Daily News. Stuff started covered, right? Flyers. Was it like covering Whittenberg sports. I'm always love cover now. The division three level The only thing is there are a few people who care a very smaller fan base, so while you're writing for the players and their parents but you know the people who care are passionate, and it's got a great tradition. Great history has won National Championships. In the constantly vies great rivalries. On the football and basketball side football Wa boss. Basketball with Worcester, great storylines and great athletes. Really I mean sometimes they're. Not as Big But no a lot of guys that could appointed the Division One level I've seen it verbal two years, and you know and the coach fun to talk to you. Both sides of Joe Finchem right now. Matt Kersee the basketball coach Noel Brown before him, so you really get to know the people. From doing it for so long, so that's that's another plus of water. Over the years. When did you decide that you wanted to become a journalist? Privately not until late in my junior year of high school, or might have been even at the beginning of my senior year kind of. Or to look at to get into sports. Some way. That was either GonNa be maybe sports medicine, the doctor so grip around. the medical field to a certain extent. Journalism, but I had no connection, so the journalism world didn't know anything about it. Really other than you know grew up. Reading sports illustrated grew up reading newspapers. So. I was kind of training for journalism. Season tickets you ask. During the glory years of the Huggins Era and my dad and I and my brothers would go to. All Home Games for you know throughout my high school career and a lot of games. Do you wanted to every Great Midwest Conference Burma Dad and I went to the Y.. Cover her. SEE THEY School and I know. I was Kinda training for a career I've been able to do that for a long time now. Especially on the wires having been you know the. Last year and many eight ten. You. Wanted to get into sports in some way, but journalism is really Lico base about never written. Anything didn't know anyone in the field and. Had NO IDEA WH-. I knew it was going to be especially it maker I. Don't know what. You mentioned Whittenberg. But when was your first season covering the Dayton flyers? I mentioned they revamped our sports staff. They moved a bunch of writers to do. This in. Two thousand twelve so. Waiver in high school sports in Springfield at the time. Which I still do is look rely on. today newbies including the Natan Dragons and another drug. Twelve season and also started covered right state, basketball and other sports that here. About a year on the right Ab. Harassed the longtime. Do Devi, writer. For the Daily News. Retired. Right before the twenty thirteen fourteen seasons. Weeks before. Fact Billion dollar the right stay coach. Known about it for for me because I remember talking. To cover the fires. The reader, my I didn't think about that. Not Too long later. They told me that they were supposed to meet the date. Got On there just in time to. Cover the. Well here whether it was the. Knows it was worth. You know at a new writer for. Permanent I'm sure we do they're. GonNa deleted probably would have been there on a bike to get to last year. We did. That was the first season covered seventeen now. How special was both the Dayton that run at the Wittenberg run this year and men's basketball. They both had great pieces I mean I. Don't get any whitmer games like two games. you know whatever their couple more times. Hockey guys not your practice. I can't say I was all over that. Covering the wires. One for oriented I would. Gets more I buy. There's the or get more than any other jewelry. From My. That is my number one priority even. it was it wasn't. That obviously putting on it to. The, one who might thanks because? Sure dating pants. Or something like that or something similar. Again and soon, the certainly Perga- people will do that, but you throw it over top player of the year thing and this rebounded from tues par season. Number three in the ranking heard about. Season White like that. Coming together again I think they could be really gotta get, but no. This was the probably Pique Dame. was really a right from start to finish. Usually have something to gripe about. Even even when even do agree and they always come to be questions or complaints? Anthony Greg calling the. or Throw this guy is the herds things like that, but there was. Only a couple downs and the whole season, the loss of Kansas, but that wasn't a big deal. Because you know you wanna Mason top team overtime. Loss to Colorado on the buzzer beater with a dagger. A lot of mayors. Chase Johnson leaving the team's probably the other small basement. Crash taste of all. Bad is But other than that I mean not much to complain about until. Works twelve when it all came crashing down. And that leads to my next question. How heartbreaking wasn't the Dayton? Allen didn't get a chance to win the eight ten tournament. Get to participate in March madness. It was crazy, even looking back on it. It's hard to believe it happened because March one of the. Probably the one of the great days in basketball history at ESPN Game Day on campus. Everybody going crazy for that you have to. Be On the women's team playing in the tournament in the afternoon at Ud arena and winning. With? They would went on to win the term the next day, and then you had senior. Against GW that night Saturday, night March seven. and. They just walked over the second half. We topping. Three crazy dunks and Couldn't written a better script especially or a Ryan Mike Zealotry ladders. Seniors, Great celebration on the floor after the game, there were speeches by Mike. Landers and Anthony Koreans and nobody saw what was coming just five days later. I mean we knew about the corona virus. we news you know out there and getting worse, but it's just amazing. HOW FAST! Things moved in the next couple of days. I Think Ivy League canceling. Its tournament started the ball rolling. To a big thing. WAS THE NBA cancer-related? Spending on season at that point on. That Wednesday night late at night, the flavor already in Brooklyn I was I had my bags Mac believe the next morning, and at that point, I kind of figured. They're not going to be an aid ten tournament. The NBA's canceled their seasons. But I got on the plane the next morning when Brooklyn and on the Nuba ride to the airport when another tournament officially got cancelled. Arena should say. Walk into the Barclay Center probably ten minutes before the press conference. Announcing the cancellation was. Lee, you know able to make the most of my trip. I guess but I was a pretty day. Really waited about night, but you know just wanted. Done all my stories just inspired I talked obese. Ryan the. Puck to Neil. eighty outside the arena. Just unbelievable. It's hard across US HOW FAST! They fell apart and just not my state of and. All Its fan of lost with the cancellation of the season. It's hard to believe that Flyer. Like where on cloud nine you know cutting down the nets winning, you know the regular season title, and then looking forward to the tournament that Bam? It's canceled just like that. It's something that's. Never really happened before and now. We're still in the middle of the quarantine. Yeah. It'll be something we write about or I write about for the rest of my career as loves cover. The flyers I'm like I. mentioned grew up a UC fan so I remember that. Two thousand team well when Kenya. Martin broke his leg and everybody was talking about. bearcats winning a national title and I still see stories coming out breath every year or two about the great. What if that program has and now? Dayton is in the same category You know one of the biggest eight and fans genre. Pony told me after that on March twelve after the cancellation, the three worst moments in his Dayton a fan career. Were you know the death of Chris Right Nineteen ninety-six Death Chris Steve mcilvaine? In, two thousand sixteen and and this story, which you don't compare those two stories, but it's. Still heartbreaking in its own way. Absolutely. Now! You mentioned that you've done a lot of writing, but you also Take pictures your photographer for. The DVD add What's that like being able to take pictures of sporting events? Kind of unexpected bonus I didn't expect. To ever be a photographer. never took a class. was never thought about when I was in school. For sure, we didn't have the Internet. Much of the Internet back then in the late nineties, we had a website at student paper at are you but You were still writing for the newspaper? You weren't writing for the website and that was the case for many years earlier in my career, we added website, but it was more of an afterthought, and then you know probably five six seven years ago. I don't know how. Win But the website became much bigger. Emphasis a now. I I feel like I'm writing more for the website than the newspaper so The photography came about because we started shooting video I in two thousand seven. At the Nissan, we got the ability to put videos on our website and I. Just you know always Enjoyed it. I remember the first video I shot were a win. The Kenton Ridge High School Baseball team mates. State Championship game in two thousand seven. Atta meeting was a senior on that team. He's now. A veteran outfielder played for the. National Place for the National System in the baseball season I A world series last year, and had a great world series, and he was a senior on that team. Two Thousand, seven I remember just. Shooting Video. The entire game and putting highlights together after the game. And you know you attach it to the top of your story and I started doing that for every game. I went to all the highschool games all the Winter Games and eventually you know, start shooting photos to with the same camera. You could do video photos the same time, but it wasn't until twenty thirteen year a covered right state that. got a real deal our camera, you know professional camera, my wife Barbara Tag referred to the new Sun at the same time. That's where we met. so she helped me you know learn the basics, but I was able to learn a lot by trial and error. You have to worry about films. He could shoot as much as you want. A digital camera lot of Bachata with some good ones. And eventually there were more more good shots and bad ones. So you know. I learned on the fly star covering the reds in the twenty thirteen season, really at the end of the two thousand twelve season, but Inaba camera the and the next season You know has used the cat. The camera was my way out of the press box down to the field. You know shoot photos on each side of the reds Dugout, so it was almost I've compared it over the years to like learning a foreign language of near immerse yourself in a different country. You have to learn fast, and that's kind of what I did when I was shooting, the reds probably shot sixty games at your now in various levels of lights with different clouds. Different, you know sometimes the cloud goes in front of the Sun. You gotTA figure out your settings, and so I learned real fast and been doing it ever since some really liked doing. It gets me closer to the action. I don't have to worry about asking a photographer to do things for me, do it myself, and now you know for many years of also shot videos and photos at the same time, the special contraption that created A. Basically attached my cell phone to the end of the camera land, so if you ever watch the flyers games and see my courage, photos and videos. Of all the big plays, and that's because I'm doing both at the same time while riding to and I. Just Love I'd love doing author of it like in a one man band so to speak. It's very impressive being able to write and take videos and photos at the same time. It's fun and gives you an extra river. A reporting I can look at the video right away and said Oh. Did he step out of bounds there or was, that shot. Did he make that shot in time for the Buzzer, or was that a foul charge or block? I do a lot of those videos and you see If you see on twitter and especially during the flyers game closely videos fasts I can't after a play swimming. The WIFI is good. because. It's real easy to transfer To do a video sometimes I'll be photos to but it's just faster because I can just take a cellphone off the camera lens and the twitter and I guess the real fast. He got a very large following on twitter, and you also have a couple of. Contests throughout the flyer season tell me. Tell me some of your favorite parts about interacting with the flyers, fans and just overall being on twitter during basketball season. Yeah just trying to be original. The contest I've not seen anybody else doing that so I. Thought was one different thing I could do had all the photos. Most writers don't have the photos to offer to their fan, so you know. I started doing the guest list. They got maybe started with the bracket contests on the a ten tournament for my first or second year, and that's that's Kinda got the ball rolling, but I had. The prizes were real simple because it's. It's really cheap to buy four by six prints and to people I. Don't ask the company to pay for that. I. Just pay it out of my pocket book I probably spent. Just a couple of hundred dollars in seven years, not not not very much money to to spend to. You know to enter to give you an extra way of interacting with fans and reward the fans. Follow you reach you and. you know, make it so much fun, so it was just. That's kind of how developed and Last couple of years I started doing it almost every game at least tern conference. He's a guest. The score contests and you know I might get. One hundred people playing along about a lot of people have won over the years and I'll send them a selection of photos from really a less seven years, or if they've already one, maybe it'll be just the the most current photos, but I got a big stack of four by six Prince at home at all times. always find ways to. To get rid of them her. Send them the fans. It's just. It's just kind of fun thing to do. Gifts makes it's a positive thing to do on twitter, which which as we all know is often a negative place where people are using our just complaining about things. Yes, social media does tend to vote negative. often does, but that is really cool. Do you have any favorite moments while doing these contests something that always stick with you and always make you smile or laugh? I don't know just different people win. Guess, not doing it so long now that so a couple of people have won several times the bracket. Contests are fun because I'd always get people to help me out Kinda volunteered to run the contest because it's, it's hard to add up all the scores while you're still covered while you're also covering the tournament, and usually I'll give out a bigger prize for that like Bata. Last Coochie Smith T shirt the sheer to give the an excuse me, Smith hat of your your ago. I guess the other thing I did the probably the most fun thing I did interact with fans create A. A pickup basketball game which we call the twitter pickup basketball showcase, just a fancy name. I, put on it and invite whoever whoever wants to play. Just put it out on twitter we played. We played for years. Now I think Kathy. The Bales Center just off a thirty five there in Beaver Creek. Usually get like fifteen to twenty guys. It's just for fun And we play like right before the season opener. Of course, we do our best to documented on social media and take a lot. Take a lot of photos. Give, the winning team some prizes, so that's another kind of fun thing. I've done for or with the thirty fans. Have very busy year and you cover a lot of sports. What does a typical sports year look like starting with summer? You said You Shoot the reds and You know it. It never stops for you. What's that you're like? The summers definitely slower because. You know the red season is so long and haven't been good in so long. I've really come back on how many games I've covered I think the first year covered covered. Probably seventy or something of the eighty two home games and slowly slowly started cutting back, and most of that is still a long drive. I have to take I lived in Springfield at the time when I started going there as we move Chiba Columbus. My wife got a job at the Columbus dispatch so really less. Six years. I've covered the reds. We've lived in Columbus. That's you know. Nearly. Three of driving total everytime occur again, so it's not the best use of time so I've cut back on the redskin cover, maybe twenty to thirty games a year, and sometimes I won't even cover them at all after August first because football season starter in their heads are out of contention, which doesn't make sense for me to go down there very often. so summers are pretty slow. That's when it usually take a lot of vacation. This year, obviously much different. been any sports since March so I've taken a took a week of vacation. April we can can take a week in June probably gets alive lot. For many years in the company, which is one reason I stayed in the company. But you're yeah, you're you're really revolves around the sports schedule, which I kind of like the variety you know basketball season is when I do most of my traveling. Lots lots of traveling during the flyers mostly on the East Coast the Rhode Island I don't know how many times five or six times New York City a bunch of times. Saint Louis every year, Richmond once or twice every year you really you know you're talking eleven to thirteen plane trips year. Only a couple that I can drive through like Kane in Pittsburgh and Saint Bonaventure spot a five hour drive from Columbus so That's that's a that's a busy time of year, and also in the most important thing. For me, because just as I mentioned, the flares are so popular in Dayton and you know high school sports are also still a big part of what I do, so you know and and the May or early June. Usually covering a lot, icicle sports baseball softball state track meet love covered. In the fall usually covering high school football game, every Friday cut cut back a little bit once the basketball season gets going and covered a lot of state over the last. Five or six seasons to me and there was a four year. Run Right to get all the bowl games. I was there when they won. The sugar roles on the island for that I was. Standing behind the end zone when they won the national championship against Oregon shoot photos for all those game. That I got to go to fiesta bowl twice so that was that was a blast of kind of cut back on that now now that we've got a tyler home because I can't do all the traveling for the bowl games and then travel for the flyers so fortunately. My bosses are pretty understanding. That does equal lot of mileage. my next question is. Would you say that winter is your busiest season or would you pick fall? Just because how much football's available? Well, the busiest season I guess would be when the the two seasons collide. In October and November because. You know you got football season at its most important time and yet a lot of season preview stuff for basketball, and you know throughout new member. Both are going on so that that is probably the hardest time. I guess the. March you know they never make another run. which might have happened this March That's also a very challenging time to good schools. Just because you don't know how long you're going to be away from home or when you're going to go, you're gonNA. Go so that's hard on the family life dealing with that. We had all the babysitting setup for. Eight ten tournament and the first round of the instable, a tournament and March whenever the Gut cancelled so I, guess the bonus was I got to be with a family but certainly would have rather been covering historic season as it reached its. Climax. Yeah I think it was at a Dayton flyers baseball game. They finally Said No Atlantic ten tournaments, and of course the Big East. They were they at halftime. The first game is like nope. No more so. Yeah. It was crazy. Yeah, you got baseball players. I've talked to a bunch of those guys flyers spring. And, yeah, heartbreaking for a lot of different people yeah I think that flyers squad. They finished. Runners up in the eight ten turney last year I. Think they would have had a much stronger squad and a great season this year, but It didn't happen so. Yeah I just talked to Riley Toronto plant. The other day because they got back on the field last week at that US or college baseball all summer invitational. They had to do all the cotton, cotton, swabs and ERTA. Coronavirus testing with the swab and their news, the edited antibody testing, but they were willing to do anything to get back on the field. So that's kind of I think everybody is right now. Everybody wants to see some sports, so you know getting closer to to see in some. And also too great. Flyers have very solid shot of being drafted in the Amalgam thrived. Could be today rallied I mean. He kind of expect to be like a six to ten round guy, but he said he'd been. I'm in some draft boards spring, so be pretty cool. He went. sometime today, especially when considering daynard out of football player after this year and Trautman they're gonNA have a basketball player drafted October. thobe topping so pretty sweet if For the, flyers. Players in three different sports for this year. Absolutely would that be a UD. I, would you now now now? We have to look at that. I got to be I I. Don't know you never know. They had some guys in Seventies. In football, they just haven't enough good football. Guys drafted so it would have to be a I or both those guys. You know they are happy to come back today. If. It doesn't work out year if they don't get trapped because I. Don't think either of them will want you know one of the twenty thousand dollar deals everybody after the first five rounds can sign as a free agent, but there's a limit on how much bonus they can get so. Probably make more sense for them to come back to you D. I'm not the biggest fan how they did the draft this year. I Know Corona, virus and everything but. Just so few rounds it just. Yeah. I don't mean they're printing. There's not GonNa be Minor League Baseball this year anyway so. Just seems like it would make more sense to come back to school and do it again. It'd be nice to see tyrod at third base and black on the mound. PLAKA pitched quite well think. Kentucky this. By this season so. But sticking with the draft ob topping definitely definitely pick Where do you see him going? I don't know I've seen him size, you know. Three. I think in a lot of the mock drafts. Update soon on what everybody's saying about him Just. An odd situation with the draft getting move back from June, two to October the combine I. Don't think they've even announced the date for that yet. So I'm sure that'll help determine where he goes You know. He's I'm sure you know what he did in the. I don't think Nishantha term cost him too much meaning. He won all the awards. I think that that didn't if it probably helped him win. The awards that the term was canceled this at that point, he was far and away the number, one guy and everybody to everything else to go on to You know evil. Much swept all the national words. Definitely, it'd be a lottery pick, which is a big deal Dayton my. Guess, he'll be in the top ten. I don't know if it matters a whole lot. You know if he's five six, seven, nine, two zero probably probably. For Him. You know go the best team team that. Can Use him the most stir the best. We'll be more important than making a few extra dollars. Selfishly, I hope he falls to either. The Pacers are cavaliers discus like yeah, that'd be cool to have him on. Whoever drafts him is going to gain a lot of fans and Milad UB top and jerseys. At the arena next year assuming their fans at the Games. I feel like it's been a long time since I've seen these articles by saw a lot. OB TOPIC TO GOLDEN STATE? Yeah I think there was some talk about that because. His parents did a podcast with the. Steph, currys parents Dell Curry in his His wife and they talked about of course they were. His mom was on there, saying. Yeah, we want him. Flavored Golden State of course. Does seem like that would be a team that. Could capitalize and his talents. Absolutely I mean they'll have Klay Thompson back I think draymond green will be back. Steph curry course that that's going to be a pretty lethal team with everyone and obi gets to the warriors. I think they might be just as strong as they were when they had Kevin Durant. Yeah that'd be nice for him. To get with a good team for sure. Now back to you. What are some of your favorite stories and pictures and videos that you have? Taken and created over your time in with Cox Media. Well the big moments the big games always stand out. you know with the reds covering? Jake Arrieta is no hitter was a big one knows down in the. dugout shooting photos that whilst. Clicking on my game storage as soon as Officially a no hitter near can send your store by your phone these days so that that's a big help. And I remember being in the press conference on there was nobody else there the real. DEAL SR camera shot a portrait of. David Ross was the catcher in Senate to the cubs and let them use it on twitter. homer Bailey's hitter I was there for that second one lots of lots of big moments and moments that. Reds Games over the years, although a lot of them of irrelevant to the national league central race, 'cause the resum get in contention very often in my in the all those years. With, the flyers obviously there lead eight run being. Under the basket. The v Sanford made a shot against a higher state. Shooting a celebration, just a few feet, and then cooked quickly. Check to make mixture up got at least one. Frame and focus of Sanford shot and I got a pretty good one You know, don't a Memphis in buffalo that you're always going to be a highlight. lots of big buzzer-beaters over the years and. Making sure again that got the shot in focus and usually usually let do might be only one or two rings, but you know like the Jalen crutcher shot against Saint. Louis last year was the big highlight Kind of are always to get a good. Angle on a three pointer like that but I. You know I got one at least one shot that was good enough and. The celebrations at the far end of the court, which wasn't the best voters that you kind of run down there. Real fast and see what she can get. You, know same with the highest. The Big Games are always. The ones that stand out. The sugarbowl was a crazy experience because it was so close, and it was. It was back when we were still getting your late games in the next day's paper. Deadlines have since changed, so anything really starts after. Five PM. There's no way we're getting a game during the next day's paper when they apprentice in Indianapolis, but back then You know we still had A. Chance to get the game story in the paper with the final score of my. Goal or my job was to have a game store. Immediately ready soon as that final buzzer sounded, but it was challenging in that game, because I was back and forth, and he didn't know who's GonNa win. You know the national champion game has the same thing as kind of had that one up you know by late in the third quarter saw kind of wrote that story time and my boss Boskin. Just clicked. Send at the end. You want something on the website right away, but with with the Alabama game I was running back and forth to in the field in my laptop, a photo room, just off the field, and trying to do my best to get you know photos of all the big plays, but I miss the big Ezekiel Elliott a famous run. You know shoot shooting that from behind the other side of the field. Because I just updated my game story so you know typically WanNa be in front. Of the offense, especially you know offense that can score on any play you. Know Ziegler Alec. Take off at any moment score. I knew that but I just didn't have time to get in front of. It so yeah, that was. Shot. Him from behind but a lot of good shots from the celebration of course same on the National Championship Game Against Oregon, a lot of big heist games over the Braxton Miller spin move. Had A perfect perfect shots of that at the Virginia Tech Game. You know that big comeback against Penn State. A few years ago. think when J. T. Barrett through the big past to. Was Marcus Ball can't remember. Lots of big moments you know. Those are the ones that standout Similar with Wittenberg, and then all the high school sports, and this can be just exciting to you if there's not as many fans stance. I think one of my favorites. pictures was The flyers went over Ohio state in their elite eight run It was just right over the hoop and everything it was. It was great. It's even hanging up in the doctor's office and Farmers Ville with that. It's the one up there and craft laying on the ground, yes. Right and I don't know I. Forget who shot that one, but. I'm not confident enough as for to put a camera on the siege. To have some real technical expertise to do that. I I try to keep it simple on the stick to my style though I move around the arenas a lot to get angles, so you'll see some stuff from above and. Just to shine to vary a little bit. How much as a photographer do you move during a gain whether it be football basketball baseball? How much do you have to get up move and you know re- reset everything. Football. You knew the most because like I said. You want to be in front of the offense usually. cut it out here. I mean least recovering is that you want to be from their offense defense cutting no either way there. so you're constantly charging up and down the sidelines with heavy cameras. What's pretty good workout? Baseball! You at the Reds Games. You could be one of four places. Basically I've shot. From the stands a few times, just for variable. Usually you're on the field late side of the dugout. So I might switch wanted ending and read Games depending on the game I might shoot four innings because I've still got my stories. To You know if it's close game, I might go back down for the ninth inning or something like that. But you know basketball? Typically I'm only in one spot by the basket. usually at Ud Games at ud arena will move up. into the stands between the levels like less four minutes of. The first half or something like that? Just to get some different shots different angles, but I'd like to be back close to the basket, because as I mentioned a sheet, the video and it only really works. If you're close up every time, the flyers are coming at me on offense. All hit record on my cell phone and just let it roll as she photos. So that's my goal so depends on the game, too. If it's a blowout on my move around more often, I've shot from the flight deck. Way Up above You know when they go to the. Conference tournaments at the Barclay. Center or wherever you know oftentimes move around a lot there because there's a lot of open seats at those events. I see. Now. We talked a lot of football basketball baseball, but is there any other sport that you want to either write about or take pictures at? Soccer is always my favorites or Growing up because the best sport, I was as far as plane. So, you know I really liked covering high school soccer and don't do it much anymore. by discovering the World Cup would would be dream. Maybe twenty twenty six. We'll see what's going on then. My Kid will be eight years old. I plan to take a big road trip with him if I can at that point. and. Watch some games that I don't know if I'll be covering him. We'll see it's a long way away. But You know it doesn't really. The sport doesn't matter really as much as the event like you know. The state track and field meet is one of the most exciting things that you'd ever. You're just this especially on that Saturday. You've got hours and hours of great moments one after the other right at the finish line and big moments for these kids, and that's always very exciting. The state wrestling me which I've heard a couple of times. For the same reason is very excited. Exciting as are all the state shave games covered. I covered one football state championship game when Shawnee High School for Springfield played. In Canton, covered the basketball championship. A couple of times so those are always very exciting. Now what is track and field like like in terms of taking pictures and writing stories? Well th the state mean. For instance two days. Got A lot of the preliminaries on Friday. And the finals on Saturday in usually. Have you know a lot of athletes? Usually, we split it up. office on the Springfield area guys Mark Pendleton just retired. What if the dating guys? How we would've covered this year, and he's no longer there would probably had some freelancers, but it's. It's like covering like ten car crashes all at once. Got All these different athletes at different parts of the stadium, some outside the stadium with the throne events, and you're trying to figure out where to be. WHO's the most important you know? Who has the chance to win? And then at the end you know figure out how to put it all into one story while you know a large photo gallery, too, so it is one of the hardest days, and it's always really hot too so. It would have been held last week and if it would happen this year, obviously didn't because of the pandemic, but Even though it's hard, it's a lot of fun. Dave, what are some of your favorite things about sports locally in the area? Think just getting no the different. Athletes and coaches over the years. You. Know you'd like the flyers you know can take three to. Three to four years to really get to know a guy where you're on a first name basis with them. You know skewed Smith Cow Davis. Can Nepal feel like. You know. Got To know those guys real well because they were. Such central figures for the team for years in a row. Obi you know he was only there for. Three seasons only two seasons on the corner, but he was a guy that was just so. Going when he saw me would always ask about. My kid hung's doing went to the game in Philadelphia with my wife and kid. Beholden I was just kind of walking around. The RENA showed him the basketball only. About eighteen months old at that point, and always like Oh, he was real excited to see him. You know that's pretty rare for you. When athlete, a year later in their own own little bubble of. Especially reporters or you know? They know them, but they you know. They're not gonNA often. Ask the hold your kid like. Oh, be did so. I was like yeah, and then we got a picture, pretty cute one of the Dayton radio geise. Got On me for that, but you know. I'm not going to be asking autographs. Guy From guys but I'm not I'm not going to be their best friend, but if a player wants to hold my Child is especially excited to see him. Not GonNa. Turn that down either. You know you've got to get to know what your moment you're in, so it's just getting another the coaches and the players. I mentioned the Wittenberg coach known for almost two decades now. The former flyers. Know like the guys who are playing with their. Basketball Tournament last year Delaware frequency people like that again for so many years of school. So. I guess that would be the highlight. Now what would you like to see in the future for Dayton sports or media? Just hope to keep doing my job. You know newspapers are. Kind of a dying industry at least the print side, so never know what the future will hold. more people than ever I think because of the website. But trying to make money off that website and trying to under the print subscribers to. You know especially this year. especially, everybody's suffering all sorts of businesses and. Even though everybody reading the Daily News, we certainly lost some advertising winning. which hurts so I just hope to keep doing. My job. It's kind of. A dream job gives a you know I've got a lot of connections to the day. Mary GRANDPA was a huge flyers fan took me to a couple of games when I was little. My Great Grandpa was a dean at the university. So even though I didn't grow up rooting for the flyers because the mid nineties. We're not a great time for the flyers, so if they had really good. I don't know if I would have been a fan because the bearcats were so good at that time, but Yeah, we'll see just up to. Keep doing job hope it doesn't change too much if it does change for the better because the Internet has certainly changed things, but for me it's been for the better because you can do so many different things. And Connect with fans and way. You couldn't have done fifteen years ago. And also the interaction that you get as well that people that follow you and see your content. Yeah it's good and bad. A shared a piece of hate mail. I got today from a very loyal troll likes to send. Nasty emails for no good reason even though blocked his email address and never responded this time I was like. Oh, I'm just gonNA screen shot his email and shared on twitter last. Give people a laugh but mostly it's it's real positive that that kind of thing is. Is Rare for me at least part of it, because I don't go back and forth fans too much. You see a lot of sportwriters. Get into back and forth and back. You know they don't like what fan says and I will most likely tend to ignore. Ignore you or just meet you mutual twitter if you were knowing me so. I don't come out looking like a jerk he. Can Be Jerks like that it's. The social media, one of the bad things to it gives people you know voice, and they use it the wrong way. Yeah and it's just like everything. Don't read the comments you know. Charging, nor sometimes you gotTA. Let it roll off. Now for those that want to join the journalism field or become a photographer Can you give. Will Um consider what you're getting into being? It is a challenging industry right now. I can probably say that about a lot of different professions, but. this. No, I mean there's there are some more opportunities because the social media, but certainly in A. Print newspaper Journalism many many fewer jobs than there used to be when I got into business, and nineteen. My first stores were ninety six for the student paper, but my first full time job was ninety nine after graduated. And you and then it wasn't easy to get to three internships for got A. fulltime job, so you can get some experiences import thing. right for your. High School newspaper Right for your, College newspaper. Go after internships. Hopefully, they're paid internships, not a Lamar You know seek out. sportswriters sports editor see if they need any freelance. We always need help with the. Especially High School Sports. We're always looking for good people to help their pay a whole lot, but it does pay something, and then you know if you need to get your foot in the door and get some clips That's that's huge thing. I didn't have that in high school so if you could do that early on, you're going to be way ahead of the field. and you know they could be journalism school how university great job. Helping me, land internships and the student paper. We had a ton of freedom to do. To do things, we wanted to do an experiment with rioting and laying out pages and doing all that so You know that people. So easy to reach out to journalists days through direct messages and things like that and I've always tried to to give back by getting back to whoever contacts me usually have. One or two students every year shadow me at. Deep Ud games or wherever and hopefully they benefited from that. How can people follow you your work and maybe getting some the phone on social media. both my twitter and instagram handles are the same David. P Patrick. GIBB LONSKI ALL LA. Together lower case so pretty easy to find. There are couple of other David's There's a lot of damage is out there. It's not that. Uncommon. Name as you think including the Saint Scientists. WHO's the first guy who comes up? If you Google me the daily, you should be able. Find me pretty easy. David. Thanks for your time today. It's been a lot of fun. It's been lot fun learning about you all right well. Good luck with the PODCAST, so look forward to. The Sharon the Lincoln out and look to to what you're producing the feature. Thank you David and here's Here's the basketball. College Basketball Twenty twenty. Hopefully, we hope let's hope so. 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HC360 #080 Pro athlete to finding your true authentic self, with Philadelphia Flyers ~ Riley Cote

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HC360 #080 Pro athlete to finding your true authentic self, with Philadelphia Flyers ~ Riley Cote

"The best and brightest. Thank you for being here wherever you are whenever. You're listening to this. Amazing conversation with vote flyers riley coattail as he tells part of his life experience in his story of playing professional hockey the toll his reputation in ego. As an enforcer to on his body as well as his mental state and how into retiring he has committed his life to self care mindset and helping others realize the same healthcare. Three sixty has pardon with riley's company body wellness and if you would like to try his high quality hemp derive. Copd in functional mushroom products that support microbiome healing in recovery for all walks of life visit bodycheck wellness dot com and use promo code healthcare three sixty at checkout for twenty percent off all your purchases. If you haven't visited healthcare three sixty on youtube please do by typing in healthcare three sits he was. Scotty burgess in the search bar. 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Now let's jump into this conversation riley and as always thank you for listening and episodes seventy nine we gave you a snapshot of some guests will come on board and the but a month ago maybe three weeks ago. I had a really rate connecting compensation with who's in front of us today introduced riley coattail to the best and brightest of healthcare three sixty and Dynamic story really unique story and again atypical. many also is doing something. I think is really really cool. We're going to introduce his well and went overall mine wellness. Mla him explain that story. But it's in path with a lot of the best and brightest out there knowing that i'm going down so it's intriguing and of interest to me so rally. I can't thank enough with making time in in coming on the show man appreciate ya. Yeah thanks for having me appreciate been looking forward to this conversation for a few weeks so we probably could have ended it after our first discussion man it was just connected like you said and obviously thinking along the same lines and had a lot of the same philosophy so excited to kind of talk about it and talk about this journey that we're all on a quick background on your a quick. You play professional hockey for eight years. In two thousand and two thousand ten part of that notably with the flyers because my wife. Michelle who you met. There is a huge flyers fan as well as my mother-in-law. I did ask a question to a friend of mine. Who played in the eastern hockey league. Aiden correct there. I'm i may be wrong. He said that you are an absolute savage. And i remember you playing. I don't remember all the details. I'm not a huge hockey follower. I fall off over the sports bandwagon. That put most of my time into either my family and my business by i remember you in when he said that was like oh and immediately popped up but at the same time he said you would just like this ruthless player that i'm navigating this little bit and the reason why is because it goes into your wellness journey that you're talking about and i know when we first spoke talk about a lot of concussions and things of that nature and the impact that it really had i like to camp out there from and if you don't mind i had a lot of concussions play division one football i did not know of the overall impact really had on yourself when you walk us through your career. Your playtime approach the game the result of that post career in this walkers through that story. Yeah sure i guess. I'll go a little bit further behind my My pro hockey critters. Kind of tee it up and i grew up in winnipeg manitoba and played all my youth hockey in winnipeg and moving away from home at sixteen in played in the western hockey league. Which is a major league in western. Canada also known as the. Who or under the umbrella of the canadian hockey league and played four years in prince. Albert's is a little town. North west of saskatoon saskatchewan. I played four years. There was not drafted my last two years there at pretty good offensive production but not enough to get drafted in that world. I was looking at the guys. Getting called up was guys with a lot of goals and a lot of penalty minutes. And i was going into the next offseason which had the ability of going back to junior for another year or turning pro. There've been a few fights. Junior's you know. I wasn't considered a fighter. I was You know still thinking enough skill to make it and you know that kind of at the crossroads of my career am. I gonna be okay with being a minor league player and live in this minor league life or am i gonna actually go through with my childhood dream of playing nhl. We're going to have to do this the old fashioned way and get my hands dirty and when you start to plan. I was five years five organized hockey. Wow yeah you probably skating few years before that. Or that's what i think. It was unscathed by three three and a half years old organized. You know half ice hockey at five years old and it also never be canadian cable. Blood is to play hockey a street hockey pond hockey actually organized hockey. So it was just like something that was ingrained in my dna. But in my mind. When i'm young. I'm thinking yes i'm gonna wayne gretzky mark team salani or whoever has fallen at the time but not recognizing when you're young and having this big extravagant dream that you're going up against the best in the world right so having said that Going into this essay overage year of junior eligibility or turning pro. I made the decision to again. Get my hands dirty and do it the old fashioned way you know as i knew in my heart i was a competitive guy. You know i. I knew i had the will inside of me to fight in one on one man to man combat. Basically my mind decided to be this enforcer this tough guy role to protect my teammates and get myself astounding chance to ever actually play one. Nhl hockey game. So i went to toronto. Maple leaves Training camp back in two thousand one and with this idea of. I'm gonna be this enforcer right i'm gonna go and stirred up i'm gonna bring on the fight and i'm gonna get myself notice in one way shape or another and and that's what i did when i did my first shift and training cabin trauma of strange. I ran the sky clean. Hit you know be lineup. Splitting his head open guy came to challenge me to punch them. You know this bigger than life ego. And all this whole thing was kind of like the creation of this riley coattail. The enforcer this tough guy right it was you know taking on this role obviously had the back it up. So that's the way i did. You know. I decided to pursue my professional hockey career as a as a tough guy. So my goal going into every season was to fight. The biggest is and the guys are the most pelley minutes to earn some street cred. And that's what. I did was fighting thirty five times a year. Started off in the central hockey league's signing to deal with trauma believes myrlie team after that training camp central hockey league. Thirty five fights that year next year signed with columbus blue jackets syracuse crunch east hockey league for the most of that year and fought earth thirty five times and the basically took that attitude that effort. You know this meathead mentality of you know acting as a role elements of it as well as a half the back it up. You know. i'm fighting the biggest guys you know. Learning getting my ass kicked winning some. You know triggering myself out of this identity and early on. It was almost easy for me. Because i love the competition and i got an ego was chasing something that was maybe a little bit more superficial than recognize. At the time. I was chasing glory of chasing fame. I was going to be chasing my dream out of the fear of failing or failing my parents for all the time they put it. I'm not sure. But i was balls to the wall and it's hard as i was going on the ice. I was going off the ice. So you know. I've been over two hundred hockey fights in eight year span and obviously took its toll. you know. there's there's physical damage. I got disjointed fingers. And rhys my nose is clearly not straight and surgeries and the whole bit but between getting punched in the face and playing a hard game. Concussion issues including the body checks the phone on the ice. Yeah it's just like hidden by accident. You know vibe bruises things of that nature. I mean for those who have not played hockey. I haven't played hockey to kit as a brutal sport you have to have the athleticism of gymnasts were the veracity of frankly linebacker. Yeah yeah there. It is a combination of a little bit of everything right. It's it's functional movement. It's a one legged sport. You're always kind of on one leg. Cores anaerobic element. There's an explosive powerful element and the puck protection. Like this hunger of carrying on the puck element than there. Was this this role right. It was like okay. Forget about hockey and playing the game. Let's just go be a banger. So like i said. It took stole physically mentally spiritually to the point where. I wasn't sure exactly where some of these issues i was you know dealing with were coming from was it. Was it the punches to the head. Probably i mean everyone knows again punching into facing godfrey brain but i think a lot of it had to do you know the the accumulation of some of the things i was dealing with was how i was treating my body and my mind again in the culture of hockey. It's ingrained in boos right lot of beer. Lot of drinking a lot of late nights a lot of partying and every level. You went up. The party escalated you talk about mixing punching in headed punched in the face for a living and you mix that with booze and other recreational drugs. Something doesn't exactly connect the right way. There's no balance there right dehydrated brain so long and short of it is i got you know eventually the game punch enough sense into me to retire and to take control of my personal health mental health my spiritual health my physical health and kind of shed this ego centric being that i had become or i always was and i basically kind of decided to take on that role. I need the kind of like separate myself from that. And he'll right. I mean because i realized that. I'm not this is not me. This is a job. I did to the liver childhood dream but there. Is you know obviously all all kinds of mental health issues that come along with it near your attached to an identity does not really a divine your divine being if you will and then you're dealing with concussion. Issues and some substance abuse issues and and then navigating the substance abuse programs. In which direction do i go. Because i've seen it fail for so many guys and gets the long and short of it is that i decided to kind of just Believe in mother nature more than than almost than man and kinda reconnected back to my roots soon. Nutritional healing transition my way of thinking around exercised from lifting heavy and stressing my body and joints and muscles out to more yoga based exercise. Mindful movement. Supplementing with minor avenue as well as some thc some functional. Mushrooms i kind of just went all in on these on these pieces that seem to be a mental to human health mental health and spiritual health. No longer short of it. That is just realized that i was so mindless i needed to become more mindful of what i was doing when i was putting in my body what i was people i was surrounding myself with and again the nature of some of these energies right the energy of alcohol land's pretty dark i've seen kill people i've seen it destroy lives and you know the more you drink the more you unconsciously becoming you know if you're trying to heal your brain trying to heal spiritually i recognize that booze wasn't part of the equation. Yes leaning on these other really positive Mindfulness practices including physical. Yoga is meditation and breath work and all these other pieces. There's a lot to it as you know right but is basically i needed to get punched in the face and learned the hard way to kind of like you know. Wake up from this. I guess eagles was your most memorable fight or your toughest fight or the easiest one there. I remember game that i played in college. And there's always that hit or that stop. What do you remember the most there. Well there's a probably two or three fights come to mind when you ask that question is memorable and maybe more life changing but one of the best fights. I best fight fight. I had was against a guy named sean thorn in boston here. You know it was like totally throw five twice. Almost similar fights total good honest old school hockey fight. I would say you know. One of those. Two fights against john thornton couple others an international. The best fight is far as a highlight reel. Toughest guy around is a one punched. This guy andre wa. Who's a legitimate tough guy. And last couple good punches two punches and and put them down you know as far as like you. Glory and on top highlight reel said and the way it works out perfectly. That'd be the fight. And then the most humbling firing on my ass beat and probably really kind of really started to kind of question. What i was doing and i know him personally. I trained with them when he played. For the flyers names dollar bushehr one of the baddest dues ever lay some up and I trained with this guy. He was way bigger than i than. I was in way out of my way class really but i fought him few times before but in philly again. I don't know the ego got in the way it was just like. I'm so just trying so hard to prove myself Beat my ass. So good In the corner and landed breaking a sinus caveney broken them next morning followed him a second time in that game and it was just kind of like a draw but i think it was in that moment that it was just like whole we get a pump. The brakes your riley. You know it's like you can't keep living this hard and there was all the now is all of a sudden after this game is over this game meaning like went to hockey career is over. You still gotta go be human and there. Was this like a lot of these questions. I started asking myself. I don't know if that fight itself started helping me wake up a little bit. I'm not exactly sure but so jansher questions. Three different fights there that kind of mentioned one being like the highlight pinnacle of my career. One being the overall best fight and one be probably the most humbling fight. That probably punch me into this. This path that i'm on now which thank god. I'm thankful for that beating. What about play. What do you remember the most from your play. You goals greater assists things of that nature. You know what my pro hockey career. I was so consumed by fighting that. I almost forgot that it was a hockey. Learn to a fault. I think part of it almost like allowed me to be this. You know bigger than life. Character that i was pretending to be on the ice but i almost drifted so far away from my roots of playing hockey on the pond that i think that's where the was always going after the practice in greco roman wrestling. And you know what. I mean all punching boxing all this combat stuff. But i wasn't spending the time to work on my skills. You know what i mean. It was always worrying about the next fight. Who whom i fighting this weekend. This next game wasn't like get the puck in and produced and try and generate. Some offense is more consume. You know always try explained people. It's like the humid conditions about fight or flight. Right you pick one go away or you fight in this role specifically it's hard to explain but it's a crying standings excited because you don't necessarily know when the fights can happen in the game i i can probably predict most nights. I'm gonna fight. Don't know exactly when it's going to happen. And soon as i fight is over i could potentially be another fight. That game like give you the example At the biggest baddest dude in the game twice in one night. And who wants to do that. So it's as chronic state of anxiety that it's hard to really explain to people. Maybe i i would assume maybe military veterans could probably relate to something like this. Because it's like you're never you can never let your guard down right. Someone's going to be coming after you and you know and take your job or beat your ass or you know what i mean or whatever else so I it's it's it's an interesting role and it wears on you. I think the easiest part about fighting was the actual physical combat. I kind of enjoyed that. Okay here we are. It's like you know honorable men fighting and making some sense of roles but it was the emotional toll. It took the buildup of the fight. It was you know the the trying to calm my mind after the night or after the fight when just worrying about the next fight you know so. It's not a normal state to be in. And i think i just started recognize all these signs right needed to make some change some significant changes in my life and get away from some of this poison. That was you know surrounding myself with chose you know as my it was my own choice but and you learn at all. When did you find out in. Start recognizing in yourself that you started creating habits that were nine desirable an owner and say you're an addict. Obviously there was partying. There was alcohol. Those recreational drugs was fighting. There was the perfect storm. If you will when you know that you got trapped and then what was the first steps of getting out because there are a lot of people today that are in your position. Now that you were in and i'm sure they'll learn something like that. What's a really good question and you know you make me think about that a lot. Here and I think. I think i really recognize there was something wrong. You know when you say when you talk about being a healthy person. Just thought in theory. I was my first year pro. I moved away move to the. Us from canada introduced to this kind of pharmaceutical world of muscle. Relaxers and sleeping pills and all this stuff again on the bus type stuff again. We're in the central hockey. Nhl so it's handing out prescriptions and stuff africans beers on the bus. The whole bit not saying that had wasn't drinking before i turned pro but i think it was like in that moment of taking on that role and then party you know. The party was now out of hockey. Now you're pro. You can go to the bars. And you know what i mean like. You're pro hockey player. It's gotta go drink beer and party and do the whole bit rate and then again this like the abuse of whether it was back in the day vallat and i remember that one week o on it was like my first real introduction to these anti-inflammatory world and the sleep aids and all this crap rate. I mean is garbage yet. Answer your question. When did i actually take initiative and do something about it and clean myself up. I was twenty eight years old. Still with the philadelphia flyers one more one way contract with the flyers and i decided to turn in my one way contract with flyers and to embark on this quest of him healing. What i did. I had a relationship with cannabis in a misalignment mushrooms. Previous to my retirement but again there were there were using a very recreational ways no a real understanding of the plant medicines themselves but basically i found myself in a crossroads when i went into the off season in two thousand ten where had a shitty year on my mind wasn't in in. It only played seventeen games guy. New coach didn't see a need for me was kind of like a crossroads of my career but also a crossroads. In my life i went to the off. Season sat down with general manager. If i went back home to winnipeg and he knew where. I was mentally and spiritually. I think he kind of scene. I was a warrior. But i was like you know what's going to happen next year. May go down to the minors and have to fight all these young punks. That are knocking on my door. Or am i am at peace with what i've accomplished you not saying that. It's you know in the grand scheme of the hockey world. That's anything significant. But i'm at peace with potentially being in the minors next year and be one year contracts. You know the next three or four or five years and being that guys bouncing around so going to the off season i guess putting some energy to the universe. It was kind of like. Give me a sign what to do. I don't know if i want to go to the minor leagues and five. I'm going to have to pay me. Five hundred fifty thousand dollars to do it. But what i wanna do. You know what. I mean about my past this. I'm kind of asking for answers two weeks after that meeting with paul holmgren the draw manager go back home to winnipeg give them my phone rings and homers calling me. He's like what's up. I was like hey homer are you doing. He's like listen he's leg. I know It sounds like i understand where you're heart's at Shell samuelson whose assistant coach of the fires. Myrlie teams house burned down and And he's not gonna be coming back or in this position Would you be interested in taking on a coaching position. In the flyers organization the minor league team so almost like in that moment. I was like this is my exit strategy. This is it right. This is kind of what i've prayed for. It was like stay in the game. You know now it could be on the other side of the fence disconnected from the actual players in that moment. When you asked me i didn't think about like working your ass off your whole life or something. You know grown up in canada. I'm gonna be any jog your player slugging it out you know toughest dues nhl and then having this phone. Call where it's like. Your dream is now over. This is it you're embarking on what matters most is not the coaching gig. That was about to embark on. It was the fact that you're now able to give yourself the self love and self respect that you deserve and he'll and then take what you've learnt and help the younger generation out right it. That's kind of how. I was super magical honestly. Brought me tears there because i remember in the moment i was like this. Is it rows returning a new chapter in your life. Your hockey career as a player is over your identity. As a fighter is over now we have to evolve our thinking you know and and diminish this ego and we create yourself. Recreate yourself redefine yourself find yourself. I guess is what it is. You started the hard thing to do man hard thing to do it. I had a nation this morning. What my wife about that and we were just going back and forth. I don't ever really talk about college football much more past thing. It's like hockey's passing thing for you. But i remember after that last game. You coaches are not calling you anymore to find out where you are study hall. Are you going to class a working out. It's over donald over. That's it and then all those years of preparation and training and being prepared for a ten week season in your case. Nhl season and then. Now you don't have to do it anymore. But you've aligned yourself with that identity as you know the athlete the whatever you wanna define yourself as in my really person you much more than that. Yeah that's cool. yeah. I know it's a. It's a tough when i realized that a lot more people than you think go through identity crises and actually happens to all of us at some point. Maybe a couple of times three four times throughout your life. You know who knows what it is is kind of getting back to who you truly are as the spirit spirit versus ego and it's like we live in this ego centric world right here as we glorify joaquin things. You know crazy things. And it's only the ego like looking for acceptance and all the i mean all these things and people glorify again you think that being any show live with my childhood dream and again being this tough guy that people in the community looked at me as but still feeling Like i was missing something. There wasn't that fulfilment rate is because i was serving it was selfish. it wasn't selfless recognize. That kind of not in the moment in the words of alan walks. Alan watts always says you know the difference being the physical spiritual is nonsense. The two in the same. It's really interesting right now that you bring that up or as you're you're transitioning from one kranj to another but you're identifying and then you dissolve the other one. What did you go through as far as your emotional state what you starting to go through there. And then how long did it take you to bounce back or started grab on or selves direct. Where you're going down the path that you go now now. I think it was pretty quickly. That i recognize that the path that i chose was the right one. The win wired. Is this like i'm all in right him. It's all inter. I'm out in you know when i decided to make that choice i was like i'm all in on healing and probably to a fault in a sense right. I mean look back and be like well. Maybe it was an extremist. But the guy i wanted to be on the right side of the earth in And so i was just trying to make up for some of the damage i caused and repaired. Try to repair some of the damage it caused and the whole bit but Nutritional healing was the biggest one. You talk with substance abuse you know besides the alcohol and cocaine and whatever else. I was abusing olguin abyss. I mean i was literally abused it anything you could find It was food too right. I mean either relationship with food. A lot of people do where it's it's emotional eating and it was like. Maybe i recognize that. I was convincing myself. I could eat lot of this shitty food. You know the is highly sugary food. And you know what i mean the food. That's not really. You know living in new rich and the whole bit. Because i was like trying to be a bigger guy like you know i was trying to stack on the weight and be tough and you know what i mean i can get away with all of it but remember before games drinking mountain new and eating pretzels and red bull and all this crap and i was so consumed with protein and eating to like a football player would right. I was two hundred eighteen pounds of me my heaviest and barely hundred eighty five pounds right now so it was just this way of viewing food substance right and it was just all of a sudden. I needed respect towards all of it than nutritional healing to me. It was like the biggest thing besides meditation as far as like understanding overall physical health health and spiritual health. Is that the you know. The old saying you are which eat. And they'll be biden's craved nutrients and being so committed to nutrition rare the gates. I was able to kind of find my groove in again flowing with mother nature working with the laws of nature versus against them. You know what i mean. You're talking about the gut brain connection. I think once you start nutritional healing prebiotics and you're you're g is thanking you. Everything's more digestible. And your brain is thanking you. And i know in conjunction with again. The yoga physical exercise mindful movement the meditation the breath work in supplementing again in these minor cabinet. Cd wearing a heavy dose of cbc for years instill taking it as well as some of these functional mushrooms again. Just trying to Just trying to repair you say repairs. Like i know i caused more damage than the common man so i just need to go above and beyond with some of my. You know my treatment options. How many concussions did you have or do you remember. And how bad were they at the worst only diagnosed with three concussions the pro level that think about the spectrum of concussion right. i mean. They're saying that. Any sort of jarring motion of the brain inside the head is on the spectrum of concussion. So you like every time you get punched in the head. Is you know at least a little tip on the concussion spectrum. So i i don't know i don't want to throw a number out there. How many. I think i had but i had my bell rung several times where you know. You hear that the saying of getting your bell rung where you hear the kong. You know several times where. I've woken up on the ice and Thought that someone sucker punched me but it was just like i got hit so square. That was trying to make sense of what happened. Was there were several. That you probably shouldn't have played in going back to the ones three. Donald brashear we kick my ass. Oh good that. The next morning i blew my nose in the shower. Swollen up the other. I because i crack the sinus cavity. That was probably probably the worst one. But i was also in a position again when i say i would relationship with cannabis and mushrooms. I didn't understand the science of it. But i also had a lot of questions around the traditional protocols around concussions and some of this other stuff i've seen guys being put on valium for concussions and locked in dark spaces so i had a lot of mistrust with how they were doing things. And just based on my own intuition of what i knew from cannabis and what i knew about scylla sivan was that i was just gonna trust mother nature more than this model of a or whatever l. It's nothing wrong with that. I think it serves. Its purpose for some people but i just You know. I felt like i needed to use some of these plant. Madison's to use them as crutches right crutches help people walk. It was just like you help me get through the grind. Not just like physically mentally and spiritually. But i think we talk with the identity crisis i think suicide sivan specifically helped with the ego dissolution helped me kind of like evolve of that old older way of thinking into the newer me is. You could call it a rebirth if you like to call it that emmy dive into this real quick so we use study introducing sivan under the medicinal intent. That's really important. People understand their intent. I've admitted on this show and acknowledge that i've taken suicide with myself. United spoke about. We had a great conversation around it. And i do believe from different purposes with the correct intent. It's great when doesn't have the correct and that's why you hear the stories that it wasn't the best experience and i hope i did a good enough job at leading this way because this is what i want everyone to get this point here. You have this really dynamic great career as a professional athlete. You live the lifestyle that you recognize. That wasn't the most desirable you changed yourself out of that You looked to the universe for some answers in it was answered. Now you're recognizing your body nutritionally that you need to change things up. You're not eating the mountain. Dew pretzels licorice before gains with the nutritional change a reintroduction of more nutrient rich foods that you star introducing plant based medicines. What was your intent behind there. And what was your progress. Because you're right a may not be everybody maybe for some folks. It's up to them. It's their connection for you. Point based medicine worked and is working to this day so that introduction that flow and then also want to make sure that we're talking bodycheck wellness. And how you integrate it into a business as well. 'cause in our first conversation that the audience has heard yet is that significant problem in professional sports surrounded. By what you spoke about that. I think a lot of people even this at the collegiate level having gone to the professional ranks are dealing with. We had a friend he had passed away. There's one theory that it was intentional. There's another theory that was by accident. We don't know but we do know he had a lot of concussions. That's why i'm kind of went down that avenue a little bit exploring kind of kind of highlight some of those points in your manifestation in change. Yeah so i think. That's a pretty Deep question but As you mentioned intention is everything right intention behind. Whatever you're doing is the key. Having all these spiritual teachers forever been teaching ramming. Its intention right. So when i say. I had a relationship with cannabis and suicide mushrooms previous my retirement. I guess there was some intention behind it. But not the right intention. It was like the go-to kings of leon concert. And you know party and that was. It was gonna used very mindlessly in recreationally Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that if it's respected. I think there's still an element the respect there have. You can go out to a civil and still be okay if it's respected but i'm not condoning. The use of of illegal drugs. Anyways here been intention. Was everything for me. So when i got into the nutritional healing and almost them when retired to i went into a deep die was solicit mushrooms with intent. All of a sudden it was. Like what am i trying to accomplish here and understanding what it's trying to remind me of. Never people use talk with mushrooms as teachers but what i learned. I heard a shaman. Say well you know. It's they're not teaching anything. You don't know the reminding you so. I thought that was kind of a eloquent way of saying it. I basically start understanding that. The more distractions that you remove as you would know you can listen better right so you essentially with suicide. Mushrooms with the proper intention that proper set and setting mindset in in calm peaceful environment. You're essentially going into a michael meditation. A mushroom derived meditation. Where you can go into deep places in an explorer so that's again creating that space of comfort. Think the first one. I done it in silence interview remember terence mckenna talking about doing heroes dose in In pure silence darkness. I space get the point of my my life there right. I needed that. And i did that but again. It was the intention behind it. I remember writing down my intention and and really kind of going into this. This journey a- as a true ceremony kind of kind of self taught shamanism. You know kind of learning this And then it would change you know maybe adding some some music and vibration right at the power of healing of sound healing on. Its own an pairing it with solicitation so then there was obvious progress of just kind of changing the ceremony but always having the proper attention behind it was healing my brain. It was finding myself know all these different things. And then the same thing with cannabis Relationship with cannabis. Was you know back when i played junior hockey hockey early. The only thing you're gonna find the cannabis role was wherever you can find on the street which is dry flour right and wherever he wasn't like twenty varieties it was whatever joe blow has it all of a sudden there was a shift in market. Where all of a sudden delivery systems increased in the technologies improved vape pens and capsules and perfectly dosed. Edible all this other stuff in this world of cbd and minor can avenue. It's like i'm my relationship with cannabis was. Let's go get hi. This is smoke three bonds and it'll be be belly up and watch silly show on tv that my relationship with cannabis changed was okay. Well now i understand or read this book. it's called him for health and it. Just kind of laid out the whole cannabis plant. Nutritional profile hempseed a digestible protein source. And you know mega three six. Nine fatty acids and and then it just kind of broke down these other minor can avenue. It's outside of. Thc had just like a moment. i was like oh man. Like misusing database right. I mean i miss use cannabis for years. I'll be honest with that. But like misusing cannabis lots of the misusing heroin or things right and i think if it was taught to me you know or say taught to the younger generation on how to respect these tools and you know i mean how to combine cb potentially was small doses of thc depending on where you're out with your you know your plant medicines extremely valuable for treating brain injury or mental health issues. It just goes back to. Your question was always about intention. So since i retired every time i've engaged in you know. A suicide in ceremony has been real true intention and cannabis as well. And am i ever with cannabis relationship with canvases as evolving. Still i think it always does. I'm at the point now. Where it's like cbd products mainly. I have rarely you know use. Thc anymore and i don't know if the audience knows how many people know by in the early days early colonization of the united states back when the country was formed hemp was used for almost everything everything by just of health close on monetary value exchange. All of it and then it became you know quote unquote illegal after the third or fourth presidency and no one really understands why or will admit as to why they'll have to look that up and put it in the podcastone linked to that in the early colonisation of the country. Hemp was very visible part of the economy. Yeah massive massive part. I mean in fact at one point you had to actually grow a percentage of your crop hemp. There was like the law and you could actually pay your taxes with hemp. One point two with a outlawed hemp cannabis in nineteen thirty seven shortly thereafter or to came round. You know the united states department of agriculture came up with this campaign called hemp for victory where they forced all farmers again to grow a section of their farmland ham for the war right for the for the textiles in parachutes and the whole bit and then once the war was over they they banned it again. So it's it was obviously political right. I mean synthetic fibre verses nylon or cotton which is a dirty crop a lot of chemicals and pharmaceuticals compete against cannabis. I mean here. We are nine. Years later in cannabis is still schedule. One drug go figure. It's not because it's bad for us. If we can't figure out the science and people can accept that is truth the something seriously wrong when he was pumped out a vaccine in twelve months. And we can't get the science on the cannabis plan which at one point in history. Was you know the the number one ingredient in us pharmacopoeia. For one hundred years right. I mean like how can we get it so wrong. So or one of the exact courses. It's always attention. You've got to get all the money streams right and who wins and the whole bit. Nobody story now about bodycheck wellness high. You go into that. Janjua high developed the business and some stories of people who are benefiting from well grown. Cd oils thc in nutrient rich grounds soil. Like you explain it. Yeah so building off all the things. I've talked about here. On ending the cannabis plant for more of a high level perspective understanding these minor cabinet. Cbd being the most abundant in the hemp plant rates. So in two thousand fourteen. It was the previous farm. Bill was signed into law which allowed cannabinoid 's derived from hemp to fall under the category of of him and not medical marijuana so charlotte's web. Most people are familiar with the story of page. Figgy the rioting of cannabis hemp specifically was Bread for just trial with epilepsy. Right so originally was actual marijuana variety bred down the the to below point three percent thc and allowed it to be tampa under this under these laws so it opened up this world of of you know. Cannabinoid xdrive from hampton. Not medical cannabis a recreational cannabis that kind of flew under these different laws. So once i started learning that i'd already started taking. Cb products you know knowing that there was a the stage of the game at there was different varieties and levels of thc interpreters and the whole bit but then all of a sudden that has opened up. This world of you know cannabinoid therapies under different laws and up to go through the medical cannabis program and you know it was federally legal. It was flying under the two thousand fourteen farmville which was legal. Depending on what attorney you talked to you in a lot of people been playing that gray area so that's ended up doing took a couple of years to take the leap but you know taking the idea of understanding of the soil rate nutrients in the soil soil health and understanding just proper genetics and proper farming practices. You're growing. cbc rich varieties of ham really takes. Someone had put some tlc into their plants. It's not just growing corn or you're going to sell the seed in it's going to all of a sudden give you this magical madison so understand again. Just with every back on nutrition understanding soil health practice of cultivating healthy plants and just wanting to provide high quality medicine. When i was realizing one of the brothers started getting into this and we wanted to be a little bit different nudges. Hemp drives cbd company but also getting other minor can adenoids getting into a new product but also functional mushroom so is his vision of combining One of my favorites the cannabis plant hemp in cb monarch avenue turbines combine that world with my other favorite which is the world of Fungi functional medicinal mushrooms deter function mushrooms. And millie meaning more the lion's mane. The quarter said more. Medicinal not that suicide. Sivan can't be a functional. Mushroom is more on a micro dose level. I mean it's more of a ceremonial on a macro. Does think functional has meaning microbes level. You can use it as a daily supplement or optimizing brain health and brain function. You know it's a pre biotic. It's good for your. Gsi the gut brain connection the whole bit. So i- functional. It does fall in that category. I'm talking about legal. Medicinal functional mushrooms and talking with lion's mane quarter steps ratio java. Gary khan turkey tail mushrooms of that nature which we have in one of our products. It's capsule with ten milligrams of full spectrum. Cbd and then it has six different functional mushrooms all known for a little bit different things but immune system immune boosting properties the anti-inflammatory properties. There's an estimate one time planning a lot of people do not understand the impact of inflammation and that includes hypertrophy of muscles folks. Yeah it's all included. It's not natural exactly hundred percent. And then you know you go back to the cbd compound and cbd's high natural anti-inflammatory paired with mushrooms so maxims. They're adapted jains. They work with your body's ability to manage stress so nervous system manage stress and anxiety. Right able to sleep better as all these things kind of work in line when you can get to the root cause of some your stress obviously Cbs and functioned. Mushrooms aren't heroes in the sense that you have to actually do the work as a human being. You need to move properly mindfully. We need to learn how to breathe and calm the mind meditation but these tools certainly helped again relaxed nervous system. Where if you're on a healthy diet of cbs and functional items. You'll know right away. How your body's responding because you're you're in a state of calmness again. It's not a stimulant high anti-inflammatory calming agent. And then when you're able to be in this congress state of mind. I said the adapt near the lion's mane specifically probably the chorus They really have an influence on your brain function because we're calmer when we're calmer we can think more clearly we can be more presence and we can perform in a higher level. It doesn't matter if you're an athlete or nine to five just be more efficient with your brain if you're cluttered stressed anxiety. It's hard to gather your thoughts if be productive right. See that all the time with people all over the one thing. I noticed to coming off of being an athlete from college. And ain't going into the professional workforce identifying yourself as an athlete. I you can hit and move you. You can do multiple things at the same time. Well this is why a lot of companies look for athletes. Because they know they can multitask like no one else and they hit move and they can go for me personally and in this scenario one of the hardest things for me to adapt to when i was thinking of coming down or bringing my focus to present which is a better way of putting right and not being on the edge on the go. It's you lost the ad you got. It does actually the reverse the now mind trap that is just it hurts and that's ego so everyone knows as well. I don't know if i've ever said this before by edging. Got out and fall into that trap at the same time and it was just when i look back on mike man. Look at all the traps. That i've set for myself and i found myself it's a big deal and more than people recognize or realize but then once they do all we're supposed to become and healthy and thought provoking versus reactive and over stimulated and go go go all the time. Yeah i think most animals in their natural state are in a very relaxed state unless they're on the front or they're being chased right. I mean it's like they're just grazing and maybe look over their shoulder. A little bit fears. And it's not you know. Chronic fear right it's not chronic exile city. It's a state of calmness until something happens in the end fighter flight right now all of a sudden now. We have to make a decision. What we're gonna do they. Most people stress so stressed out there in this chronic state of anxiety chronically stressed out chronic fear and obviously not living in the present. They're they're trying to do a million things at once in. Obviously you can say multitasking. People argue that you know we have to learn how to multitask and do more things but the art of zand says doing one thing at one time you know what i mean and being okay with that. And that's being able to focus your attention on the president you know and that's a whole nother conversation around absolute mindfulness. You're going back to the. Cbs mushrooms is like they helped bring it in the help. Bring in that sense of calmness enough for you to maybe even understand some of these teachings that you'd be okay with just waking up early and then instead of you know. Jacking yourself up with coffee can at least take a deep breath and have an caffeinated tea. You know maybe twenty milligrams of full spectrum. Cb and thousand milligrams of a functional mushroom blend in august feeding her g. i. The mushrooms are doing their thing. The is relaxing. You and being okay with starting your day off in a comment versus stress matter. Your day reflects your morning. He started stressed. You never gonna really real in this. You have any doubt. Get up really early. And now it's been a flip flop of reading i. I've actually in the middle of a couple of different yoga books. Mindfulness off the mat And then meditation. So i flip flop. Maybe he's wake up. And i think meditate but i've really dialed in the practice of yoga and when i say yoga. The philosophy of yoga. I'm not just physical exercise yoga. I love that part. I'm more fascinated with the mind being able you know learning how to control the mind training the mind. Bc me being the master of my mind. You know not the mind. Mastering me type of deal. The cool thing that we're doing here with with the mind and in the flow and and then the recognition of small little signs when you pick up on them and then you like and then you you put the forms together and it just flows and i was telling a friend just the other day which is pretty cool. I said look never really thought about this before in this manner i do now but when you think of something it could be anything if you feel light. It's a good time. If you feel heavy you need to stay away until it becomes light and it's one of those things we convincing yourself. There needs to be light if it feels heavy. Your body's repelling it. That's your energy system saying now. When something came up. I said well. How do you feel you feel heavier light and he goes you know something i feel pretty heavy i said what do you think you should do like. I should probably stay away so they go. Bump zen master intuition rates of being in tune with energy right. I think you know about the darkness of alkyl energy and versus the lighter more feminine energy of mushroom you know and understand. There's legalities involved in differences with both of those and you know being honest with energy right. I mean food right. The the life force energy out of a sip organically grown berry. Or you know organically grown broccoli had versus a nutrient depleted process food. You know what i mean. Something without know- lifeforce you'd like for the argument. You'll be like what you're both eating. But one really the nourishing your cells and hydrating your cells and giving you life force and the other one is. Your body's doesn't even know what to do with it doesn't know how to break it down as know how to eliminate it and then he talked with that energy. It's like all of a sudden the very same thing that was supposed to give you. Energy is actually robbing you of energy and then giving that sense of darkness. And it's just like listened more raises going back listening and trying to teach my kids. This is just like. I don't care if you're gonna go to joey's birthday and have a cupcake but just be mindful. How that cupcake makes you feel omen orca sugar and you're going to be like e you know. I love my love my karen so listen to that. That's like i'm telling you is wisdom right there. Kids enjoy yourself. How fine have a ball. But how do you feel after you eat that. yeah. I don't ever remember telling my own kids or being told by my parents about that. Maybe i did. I don't know maybe. I got Again too many concussions forgot that stuff and it's an important my fussing right there really isn't it. Keeps me on my toes of like you know how mindful i have to be as apparent to teach my children to be mindful. The energy is how is it making. You feel. there's an inflammatory response. You know my daughter will get a little bit stuffy nose after she had a birthday today right and we had a little of pre party last night and all of a sudden was an hour later in her nose thirty running. Your nose is running. Do you have any idea. Maybe why that could be. I'm not trying to tell her the answer. I just want her to be aware of. Maybe where that could be coming from right. It's a mucus response from the sugar. Have these conversations with are now four year old and five-year-old about you know fruit sugar and naturally derived sugar versus like gmo high fructose corn syrup refined sugar. And how you processing if you came to my house be. It's actually comical. You know some of the stuff they say about sugar but nonetheless as this planting seeds rages be. It's awareness and if you don't bring any awareness around that subject they're on the verge of being addicts whether they think they are not know. Most people in this country are food addicts sugar addicts specifically right refined carbohydrate. Addict's you know how important what you're saying is right now because you just mentioned the age of your kids right. And i was one of the lessons i was listening to this morning was a youtube video called after school and in they doctor per slept in on there and it was his conversation with brian rose and they were talking about the jesuits that they'd taken children between the age. The one seven. And that's where a programs those children or us at large so the fact that you're teaching your kids at age four and five. No one wanted to said you're programming. The right way congrats human as awesome. Yeah thanks no i. I'd like to think so too and know what i've learned is that your children are essentially sponges. They will absorb anything that you put in front of them or any energy that you met right so Just the energy that you put right. They absorb that and they recognize it as well they recognize. There's no question and it's like you know being a cannabis guy and you know You cannabis being know medicine. People say well. You expose your kids to canvas. And i said my kids. You know exactly. Canvases is because i'm going to teach them the truth. I'm not going to hide it from them. And then and then sit there and fight them and drink a beer and the you know what i mean this to me. There's a disconnect on philosophy there if you have no problem who's in the furniture child but then when you talk about sacred plant medicine that you want to hide that from them. What are you teaching your child and my kids. They've used nothing. But cbd products have like cuts burns and lasted. Whatever all this stuff and sleep issues. They're very well aware of cb mushroom products. You know what i mean and this is because that's what they know. It's what's being taught and they're very well. Aware of the natural world is far as nutrition goes and yoga. I mean sometimes. I find my my two daughters sitting there Out there doing it for show to please daddy. But there's there meditating you know or they're just start doing like a downward dog instead but again all they are is a reflection of the environment that they're in all you can do is plant seeds but be the exam editor. Take them out of that environment of go eat hot dogs all day long and no philosophy around food and there's no respect towards it. How could it ever be taught. You know i could be learned if it's not taught school systems aren't doing a very good job at it. They sent an email saying oh. Can you maybe bring something for his birthday. And then you know the easiest thing is the god is just go. Get like cupcakes or something from the grocery store with. Kobe didn't want anything home-cooked wherever was like screw that. I'm not going to be the dad. That's going to bring refined carbohydrates to a school. That already has no philosophy around food. It's like no we're gonna go to store and buy some organic strawberries cantaloupe. And you know it's like you got to stand for something with fruit fresh fruit this morning. Ferber thin normally probably doughnuts and again chocolates or wherever else it was like you got to set a standard right. You got to lead by example right now. No one's really tolan this this rope in the proper direction. We've almost ignored nutrition completely when you talk about obesity. Cancer hypertension mental health. Adhd all the stuff. We've ignored it right. It's like oh the guy doesn't matter at all. We have an episode coming up on synthetic meet and doing a lot of research on it now. It's a new topic knowing really has dispatched the product yet at mass. Kfc be the first one at least on record at the moment according to some news articles Deep dive into that. Now we can deliver some good information and trying to get some people who can just align well onto the topic point and not to say that it's a bad thing. Maybe there's some good stuff that i don't know i mean it's it's for us to explore for sure that's an interesting one because i know a lot of the meatless alternatives that i've seen are are soy based in canola base and all these ingredients that i went like personally put it in my body as they are on their own. But what about the salt. I mean you look. Yeah i mean you. Possible burger has sodium count data. Three days of quivalent in one. Burger is insane. Yeah so there's a greenwashing going on right it's like okay. Well i understand careful. Farming animals. Farming is terrible for the environment. Writers terrible for the carbon footprint. And it's terrible for you. Know human health they're farmed and we're taking on the energy and the whole bit you know. I'd like to think that the meatless alternative aviators less less of a negative energy transfer. I'm not sure but you know we talk. About the way. Some of these agreements are farmed anyways in their solis. Crops can always solis Soya solis especially when we talk about Genetically modified crops. Most the soy and canola is. Gmo anyways so let's you're getting or ganic. Meatless alternatives like struggle with like again. He said that between the sodium. This fillers lead the market. Well it can make a taste really damn good with seasoning and salts. They could throw on thirty grams of protein wherever they're gonna throw on there as a marketing agent but to me. That doesn't exactly exude health. Wellness shrug that disconnect. If we're trying to teach people how to be well. We can't really endorse frankenfoods. We're substitute or it's again greenwashing. It's like okay. Well we're gonna all go vegan here and there's this like fake facade of a vegan movement to orioles are vegans like okay. What does that mean to be shoes. Not the animal protein animal products. You can still be a junk food vegan and eat shit and be sick. So what are we standing for. We actually standing for optimum not just physical spiritual but also environmental wellness. Right i mean is there a way we can. I don't know the carbon footprint of making some of these synthetic meets know. I mean how much how much waste is there. You know what i mean. How much smoke is going into the ozone. I don't know enough. What the process. But just some of the ones. I've seen quote unquote suspect. You know at the very least in at the very best. Maybe i don't know like less than come up with something. That's maybe maybe there's some hempseed in there. You know what i mean. Maybe there are certain protein or something a little bit more little more substance to it. No more nutritious than just sewing canola may be happy convinced a little bit. But i just feel like there's too many corporations to seeing the movement did i mean like more of a plant based lifestyle but not necessarily finding the optimum wellness in that transition. You know what i mean. I think we you know brainwashed. Into how much pro team deed all this other stuff. I think that we overeat protein space in my opinion talked about inflammation in how. Cd in thc helps with inflammation gut health etc. Now when it comes to people who are struggling who have. Let's say they're ex-athlete's. We'll we'll stick with that john or from obama and they has some cautions that had some traumatic brain injuries. Tb is and for those who are just dealing with inflammation. Because you know. They've been eating poorly or they'd had bad. Choices is the effect on either one of those categories of folks who yama because let's face it. Even the people who had traumatic brain injuries are still inflamed from or from the diet side as well to the fact that helped the same way. It's reduced inflammation proven clarity wellness etc. Hundred percent yeah. We're we're constantly ridding ourselves of inflammation so whether you have a brain injury or not whether you're pro athlete or not you. Sitting at the desk from nine to five is inflammation your lower back and everything is inflammation rate. Any disease state is inflammation any joint issue muscle issue. It's all inflammation right. So what we understand that. We look at the causes of different inflammations rates digestive inflammation starting with just diet again. It's like your diet can either be inflammatory or anti inflammatory so again going back to the you know the nutrient rich versus nutrient depleted your other helping with inflammation or he packing on extra inflammation on top of the inflammation. Already have maybe. It's from sitting too long. Maybe it's you know from an old injury or whatever not being mobile enough. Whatever lands of being on the physical side of things compound with the digestive stress in the digestive inflammation haired with you know maybe some substance abuse issues with alcohol and these other things that you kind of fall into the nutrition world or lack there of not drinking enough water. You know what. I mean like hydra all these things you know what i mean. So and then there's people right. I mean people stress can really bring in a lot of negative stress into one's life and recognizing certain energies and how they affect your life and how they maybe draw your energy away. You know ca- stressful inflammatory response in the body meaning zaidi. You know an and the whole bit so whether you're treating you know concussion or tbi Or years wellness. I think the difference is likely diet. Should be clean as a possibly can be right. Because it's like your main brain is is understand in your gut wrenching. That's the intelligence and his telling this what to do so the diet got to be as close to spot on his possible. And then you talk about supplementing cbd and some of these other plant medicines whatnot then is just the boat that dose so i was going to heavy on the cb. When i retired and got into it you know three hundred four hundred milligrams a day like just kind of let out going out of my way to be like okay well. This many fights follow budget in the math. Those like trial and error. But i knew that i was getting a ton of anti-inflammatories in my body and the mushrooms was getting up to two thousand milligrams of lion's mane a day and i was like doing all these. So obviously you've bio hacked for your own personal health you casted again. Lion's mane with oecd. Have you put together. What you would call i e baskin caution of wellness medicines. I would say so. I would put up against anybody's in the market. And i think it's like the way we market at to is tough right because we can't make claims because the cbd right it's just the way on unregulated in the whole bit but as far as again it goes goes to the dose of the medicine right so it's like if i'm just you know taking right here you. Some of is mushrooming in cbd caps started off two of these so twenty milligrams of full spectrum cd and then it lands just under a thousand milligrams of functional mushroom blend and that's just the maintenance that's just like just me just optimizing and feeling finding my groove if i was to talk to someone about treating anxiety or tbi concussion or depression. I would jack that up. I know people have taken this productivity ten of these a day one hundred milligrams of full spectrum serbian these capsules upwards of you know of a few thousand milligrams of mushroom blend but the constantly. You know understanding what we're trying to accomplish. What's the intention behind goblin. These up like gummy bears. Your you know you've got your gobbling these up. Because they're feeding the brain feeding prebiotics mushrooms pre box again. The cbs effect on the gi. It's just calming the brain is again going back to the The anti-inflammatory properties and then the kicker is that. Us government holds a patent on cannabinoid as neuro protections antioxidants. It's understanding that little tidbit of information that cannabis plant this a cannabinoid. Cbd is as all these other minor. Can i think they've identified up to one hundred twenty. The actors neuro protective. So you talk about like just protecting the brain and they actually promote neurogenesis near brain cell growth neuro plasticity in conjunction with mushrooms like lions. May that is known as a neuro protectant and grow no genesis agent so you know between the actual just inflammation general inflammation around the body and then specific to the brain. I mean. I don't know why you know as a culture. We're not lie heavily. Zero winning on the cannabis plant with government money and mushrooms if government wanting the fungi kingdom is virtually untapped in the sense of we know now we that as a a whole discussion. That's going to be coming up because they've lost thirty years of potential research. They've talked about episode earlier after we had Gene avalon on episode. We talked about. They lost because they schedule. I think it was a scheduled one on the same line with heroin which is clearly not what their excuse was. And i'm going to say they mean in the government the government. Excuse was that that you'd have serotonin overdose. Because at the time. The thumbs market was releasing. These society drug therapies. And if someone who has a medicine. I say like an anti anxiety. Med like as an accident increased. Use our tone down on top of it. You could have an adverse event. That's that's one thing that they're looking at what i wanna know here. This is important. Does this also helped. Detoxify your body at the same time because i know that if your body has toxins in it and not depleted in evacuated than not that it's not working but it's not optimized it is gonna work but you want absorb as much because your body is still frankly just fighting to push. Y shouldn't be there so they're also serve the detoxifying agent as well. He absolutely mushrooms are notoriously like filters right mushrooms in the body. Help will help irsay regulate appetite for me personally. I find that. I can ride the wave of the energy of the mushroom and fast a lot longer where i'm just you know riding this raw primal energy and not needing to to eat again bombard my gi track with more food more food toxins nutrients to kind of wean through so that being said again The longer you can extend fast obviously with intention and you're actually using your brain and again gaps between meals and understanding how much fuel your body actually needs. I think naturally or indirectly. It's helping detoxifying the body because you're not eating as much right. I mean your body's the process last drink a ton of water on my shrooms in this product specifically. So you mean when you're drinking water in mindfully hydrating mixing lemon water and himalayan pink salt wherever you whatever you do to me. It's just like it's pushing out the toxins right pushing back right. Yes i have. I have the salt. It's flipping amazing. I get it at whole foods. Himalayan sea salt. If that's the thing mix with really finally grain. How interesting it up now. People would use the salt shaker. They dump it right on a movie grabbing it like a chef into students sprinkle and it's perfect just enough. Oh my it's amazing. Data each bottle. It probably looks like one of the sizes of the enhanced mushroom. Help that size of a bottle bottles fifteen bucks for salton beano. But i'm telling you have on. Almost every piece of food has an interest a little bit. Yeah sure that's amazing and is awesome. It really pushes down the hunger. You feel satisfied after the meal. It's really cool stuff. So i decided just came up in my brain to distract down though. It's good good piece of information. But yeah i think it just kind of just mentioned there. You just helps curb the appetite and just flush the system right. I mean it's not craving cream food all day and stimulants. do i find a helping my craving of stimulants. I haven't. I haven't drank a sip of all gone over a year. But when i retired in two thousand ten i made the decision. I wasn't ever going to party like i did before. And i haven't. I've never really been truly drunk since then. But i have a glass of wine now and then but it was just like just so tired of just the way even one or two glasses of wine made me feel. The energy was off forever. Eight and then again. You got a call from vibrating. Naturally right yeah exactly so i find myself like the next morning having to like go deeper and work harder to maybe flush out those nitrates most of those winds unless you're drinking organic and even those are suspect a ton of poisons toxins And wherever else you by trying to push. I just felt like it was wasn't serving me any longer. So just a real focus on purifying the body an and cleaning the body and staying toppis once in a while you know. I mindfully every day you know. Drink my warm water. Lemon himalayan pink salt and mushrooms and drink non caffeinated and just common. The system still drink coffee now. and then. but it's not like my go-to energy stimulator. Something i haven't had coffee now and probably close to mind. My wife is probably six four months at least but these little guys neuromancer here. They can see that we know the ceo. Well you mentioned by bees are phenomenal phenomena. I just had one. And it's a they just naturally dissolve and it gives you energy throughout the day. You don't get. That burn. And i had a sip of coffee the other day just to test it out. Let me see what coffee tastes like. Now they haven't had it for so long and it was bitter. It didn't taste good and it was good. I don't have the taste of you. Know i gotta let me say it. I gotta love hailers drip coffee. Every time i go back to it. I feel like just like something. My stomach is just like the. I don't know if it's again it's not sitting well. So it's churning some sort of anxiety. Why are we adding anxiety. And i found myself using where cannabis more cd and just stay away from it. I think it's more routine of drinking coffee that i like more than the coffee caffeine itself. You know you grow up. In his visual hockey rink they drink a ton of coffee. Warm up around the ranking relative. So i have pulled the arab dot net Us through this. What's going on right now. I'm very intrigued by it. So i'd like to know a little bit more. Yeah you cut out there second seemingly talkable awake dot net if you can't walk us through the wake dot now. I'm intrigued by it It's something different something that i don't know that's happening right now. I know in the eu. I just read an article about. I'm gonna say give or take two or three weeks ago. The first ipo is to be released for a simon mushroom based pharmacological drug therapy in the e u for anxiety and depression relief. It's not here in the united states yet. I know they're doing some testing with it. It's big time right now. Over johns hopkins. So i would imagine. Farmer is trying to get their hands on it and they're trying to curate the mushroom to a point where it's not gonna be enlightening and they're gonna do control. Substance theory here is that they've jacked up people so bad when these anti anxiety antidepressant medications and drug therapies. So bad they have to go back to the natural if they're gonna have people act in function normally again. Yeah personally you know what's even know where to begin on that one. It's it's interesting right. I mean as as a whole list. Now i believe that mother nature is abundant and it has enough of everything for everybody right if you play cards right right. And it's growing mushrooms. Isn't that complicated. Yes it takes you know obviously a. There's a science there but it's not overly complicated. I think we've proven that we can do that at scale with a minimal environmental impact. The whole bit. I'm convinced that we can do that. Unfortunately we we're not playing in a natural world anymore right. i mean you know. Industrial revolution comes along hundred years ago and essentially pushes out. The natural competition ray would hamper earlier. Would say you have to outlaw. The natural counterpart to allow a synthetic industry to thrive right again. The nylons synthetic fibre the oil industry. And the pharmaceutical industries. The only way to allow that to happen. It was to outlaw mother nature and mushrooms. And the whole bit get lumped into that right so unfortunately and i say this you know i would love to believe that these quote unquote biotech psychedelic companies. That are synthesizing use. He's other plant medicine. Compounds are doing it for the better good of mankind. Unfortunately it's patent grab is playing the pharmaceutical game. You said yeah. We're in a deep mess with mental health. You know mother nature should be the answer right and should be okay. Well let's go back to a roots is not quite so simple because the system itself isn't designed for this human spirit to flourish enslaving people and treating mental distress and trauma weakened people and chop people's knees out we are. It's back to natural versus synthesize in the psychedelic world. So i'm i'm kind of all in on the whole mushroom play. And that's wake dot net. Were in jamaica there cultivating suicide and mushrooms as well as other functional mushrooms. the ones i listed earlier as well as a full pre covid clinical emergent so with the the guidance of other shaman or a sound healer doing the civil assignment in sound clinical immersion sound bath and just listening. It's laying on a mat ice shades and just listening and finding stillness and then integrating that with nutritional healing yoga breath work the whole bit. They actually wake right now. I'm so on an advisor and investor and helping kind of structure this athlete division in the study around silla simon and specifically. Tbi and right. Now wake ms few weeks away from having a. Da import license to bring actual suicide mushrooms from jamaica to the us which is big because every study you've seen in the us so far as come from synthesize solicitation of the johns hopkins university. Maybe one other institution active. It's three now. Is what john hopkins duke in ucla ucla. Okay and I can't say who the partner is right now but Wake is recently partnered with one of the largest institutions on the planet that has the largest database of genetic profile brain tissue cultures so basically they have the ability to kind of target certain mental health issues as well as brain injury issues and see how silly have the largest emory brain scan database in the world. I can't say for sure at emory. But i i doubt for you. Yeah the only reason why. Because there's a study off to look it up podcasts notes but there was a ted talk where they had done in a curated ninety thousand brain scans of professional athletes over twenty years and there were looking at concussions in again traumatic brain injuries and of the source. No comparing those two people who in car accidents in finding patterns and what was going on. They didn't direct or redirect natural madison's by they were saying there were alternatives. That were out there. And i believe that there were referencing indirectly. Suicide men's mushrooms lion's mane etc right. That's why i was curious because there is something out there. Now that it's hinting at that again. It was in a position that you are and they just couldn't elaborate anymore. Yeah i can't say for sure on the database. But i'm assuming if they have the cultures they must have some sort of can't say for sure but it's the same one or not but You know so. I like to. You know kind of go back on where we're going before synthetic versus natural and again love to think that these synthetic version of psychedelics corporations that they are encompasses is almost like a billion dollar company already couples. Other big ones is this. Is this in the best interest of of humanity. Or are we selling out to the plant madison's and then you know again patent grabs will. We're gonna make this not affordable you know socially equitable in an all of a sudden. It's like we've essentially strip the plant medicine from the shaman. And the native american communities are the peruvian communities and we're going to isolate these compounds patent them whatever else they can do. And then and then they're gonna get in the way of lobbying against natural forms of this which we've seen in cannabis right. We just need to teach people. How do you get spores and then cultivate their own growth themselves done hundred percent. Be you know how people are not driven enough. They're lazy and they want someone else to do it or they're waiting for you know Again the fda come in and save the day you know word say That's again the pharmaceutical drug development path synthesize patented medicine in theory. I think it could help the science and the research component but as we know it reductionist is certainly different than holistic science right. I mean it's like okay. Well we're going to synthesize one compound. The silla sivan compound which is essentially the spirit of a what goes on. You're going to remove you know. Have nothing else with it. So a mushroom is essentially ancient intelligence ready to eat a mushroom whether you're talking about suicide and are functional is the active compounds. But there's all these other alkaloids in in whatever minerals and compounds that worked together synergistically right. I also Recommended people go in and look at the joe. Rogan paul standards. Right yes discussion. How crazy was that. I was the best of the best description. Yeah i mean. It's polish a brilliant unbelievable and then he just goes through so it when we're talking about the biology and be micro anatomy of silla sivan or mushrooms at large against our body. What we would consider human flesh. It's not five percent the same. Yeah loud right. And we're closer than we are any plant speech right when we when we when we just mushrooms even for edible purposes while we feel better and why we have great gut health. It's like of course it's natural language talking to each other and to do this direct connection intelligence right information and it's just like food is information intelligence Mushrooms minutes beyond intelligence. I almost think mushrooms are alien intelligences. Like it's it's out there and Sooner we can kind of understand that and to me. It's i go back to the essence of the mushroom because there's so much more than just a silla cyber again. It's like mushrooms are prebiotics straight. So it's again if we're talking about feeding the gut when it needs and if you're talking about repairing and regenerating healing it's like well. How often can you take a synthetic form of this. You know we don't know. These are any of these answers even when you eat mushrooms free for thousands of years and if you listen to the palestinians and joe rogan stoned ape hypothesis. Where there's there's there's a lot of people that would speculate that human consciousness evolve from eating. Well psychedelic mushrooms. Specifically right like our brain started to grow. A certain amount started kind of re introduce mushrooms into our lives in our in our communities and we grew and kind of come together but then somewhere down the line there was a threat radioman consciousness. We don't want the people to conscious to conscious than there. Too aware too aware. We can't get away with the bullshit. We're pulling on the people so that's always been it right. I mean if you look at alcohol. The native americans peta's like you chop the native americans needs by introducing alcohol in putting on reservations and dispiriting them in the whole bit. Warren spirit right. it's a war on consciousness morning awareness. Because they don't want you to know so going back to the shaman in each and every one of us is just kind of. We didn't have that the underground war. That's really going on not the digital warfare that's going on that's happening to cyber attacks by the underground of information and knowledge being awoke. That's a really fun. Conversation have because there's a lot there to unpack and again it's ikea. It goes both ways. You mean bruce lipton said. At this moment. I was watching sinologist. Our ignorance is bliss. There's no more to correct statements out there. When he was dying laughing on mcmahon he could preset again in probably have the same response. Oh yeah i know. it really is though. Isn't that's the game right. You know so you have enough people heads in the sand. You can change the narrative of how how to take care of yourself and essentially the direction we're going with with health right now. I mean think. Kobe is a perfect example of how quickly you can manipulate everyone to thinking that. They're they know everything about medicine were now. The new pillars of health are wear a mask. Stay six feet apart covering both when you cough or sneeze and stay in your home and don't go see anybody in disconnect yourself from the spiritual world that's lower leaning on is as advice to be healthy and well and unfortunately i think the mental health issues depression issues that are going to arise from kobe oregon far greater than the numbers of actual deaths in the roof already knew. Yeah throaty through the roof. I mean the divorce did a section on the divorce rate alone and we had a friend of ours. He's he's a psychotherapist in he's like did right now. The divorce rate if. I'm quoting correctly. If i remember is fifty five percents whole year today. I was like wow. And there's some very basic understanding of what jason. Eric ross was talking about where he's like. Yeah i mean these deep rooted seated issues where the person themselves hasn't resolved past. He had a statement. Something like this. Do you knew the baggage before someone said yes to marriage proposal with really still say yes. All right yeah. It's something to that effect. Enclosed here rally. I wanna do this. i want. I want to do this again soon. I wanna talk about the awakening stuff. I don't want to go into this. Want to focus on what you're doing here and how you help people by enclosing is comments and i have two questions for you. My comment i is. I really really appreciate come on the show sincerely in the reason why is because not. Are you just a professional athlete. And that's not your identity your also someone who gets it you can just identify what a lot of people so that you're carrying through here and we like look. Yeah i do that. But that really wasn't who i was and i found myself again. There's a lot of people going. Through that. And i recognize that and i want to say thank you for bringing that out because a lot of people need to hear that and i know that for fact. Show thank you for that. Thank you appreciate all right. Do the staple questions pretty straightforward but educated guy. You became very educated in business. And what you're doing and how you growing yourself. What are you reading. What are you listening to now. So i'm in a yoga teacher training right now. Seven a lot of different yoga books One of the meditations off the mat by ralph gates. Actually that this weekend doing virtual weekend with him all yoga the yoga sutras of potentially and then there's a couple other books era got mushrooms. Always kind of go back into just staying in tune with Some mushroom science and whatnot. But i'm kind of really the last year or so. The last six months specifically really dialed in to the philosophy of yoga like yamazaki neom. 'as the non-harming you know. The a hamster like like honestly just trying to understand all these spiritual teachings. I grew up protestant christian following jesus in that world and now in kind of drifting away drift away from the church know young age moved away from home pretty much at sixteen gone on my own spiritual journey and kind of coming back around understanding buddhism and zen traditions and then you know the yoga philosophy that understanding and appreciating the messages in within christianity. And kind of making sense of all these spiritual teachers were essentially saying the same thing. I know yoga's lamar specific to And physical yoga and you know what. I mean purification but the teachings outside of that are very similar so i'm just like fascinated with just like learning how to be be present and be full of joy in everything i do is going the zenit being okay with just doing one thing. At a time. I feel like i have to be the old riley and you know. Fight two guys at once in you know. Do arm and single legged squat. You know what i mean. Because that's going to jack me up and make me be a better fighter. Something like that. So i don't know it. Just you know being being at peace. With where i'm at disciplines always back disciplinary in all these books kind of reinforce the especially yoga philosophy just like it's the discipline of life right is just like the discipline of being human is it requires a ton of discipline know master teachers. It's like well. Why are they master teachers because they understand life. I understand how to live so things. We're talking today. There's a lot of them plant medicine. These things are just pieces right. But you gotta do the work and i think the yoga philosophy for me personally holds me accountable every single day taco purification. There's actual physical purification of the body eliminating toxins purification of the mind. Getting rid of this. Clutter the negative self talk that every so often creeps in tells you not good enough for over the stress forever l. It's being aware of all these things. But i have to make sure we include that bruce lipton because in there it was really it was a powerful segment it was. I know eight nine minutes. Long is really short but it was within five seconds to talked about the programming in. That's a strong word to use. I understand but the programming of the ages of one to seven. And i think if while. I shouldn't say i know about. I think the people get that concept that there will be a difference approach or enlightenment to rewiring your brain the importance of being open to everything in accepting nothing right. Which of the null wayne dyer comment that. He uses some at last question for you here. You can leave the audience with anything. Leave the leave my any words. Any comments any direction. Whatever you wanna do who is simplification and minimalism. Simplifying your life. It's not what we add to it. It's what we eliminate is what i found. So it's becoming more of a minimalist reducing my network to the right type of people. It's it's reducing my food to the you know the nutrient rich foods and the energy that i need and simplifying. It's not it's not complicated. It's just really sitting back reflecting on your life and an overly simplifying it because we were just looking for things outside of ourselves. We're looking for god outside of herself for looking for answers outside over. So i think they all lie within but we have to kind of decluttering. We have to again going back to the yamazaki neon. As of the eight limbs of yoga is just like cleansing. it's non hoarding its detachment so minimalism. Helps detachment in. The idea of detachment is just detaching from things habits thinking all these different things so i think in two words ubi. Simplify your life and be more of a minimalist. Just minimal is the things you have like. How much stuff can you have. And then all of a sudden it works against you now much food. How much can you drink it all this stuff and then if you wanna be well it's like okay. We'll simplify Overly complicated it in the laws of nature are pretty simple to understand the required discipline and then the third thirty there would be discipline. I'm with you on that. And that last statement is i've also complicated just because you think you need you to hawaii explain. It was always with the best intense right because we thought it over the reality is. We don't need to do anything. So we human beings human doers. Be good friend told me about that and as long as your president the rest will take over. Now while said notre we thank you again. Mr riley kotane front of us. Please check them out. Go to websites. You gotta wake dot net and you can also go to body check wellness. If you watch youtube videos. You can see both of those websites on there. Now will all the links and all the information from today show in the podcast notes. We appreciate you. Thank you for being part of the best and brightest and we'll see for the next month take care everybody appreciate it Off has great majoring. I'm telling you a lot of people just need to hear your message town. You are so relatable best and brightest. Thank you for listening. I invite you to give riley's hemp derived cd functional mushroom products to try and please review the podcast notes for any links mentioned from all of us with the healthcare. Three sixty team. We thank you. We'll see for episode number eighty one cnx time.

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Ep 063: Flyering For More Business

Marketing Above All

11:28 min | 1 year ago

Ep 063: Flyering For More Business

"The cash from the chicken wing capital of the World Buffalo New York. You're listening to the marketing above. All podcast your source for all things well. Marketing and total world domination a nation. This is marketing above all. And this is your host Michael. Hey and welcome to episode sixty three. Today's topic is this wiring targeted neighborhoods to grow your business. One of the oldest forms of marketing is Ben Flyers and putting up flyers in places like the post office or Business Kurds words community centers. All different things like that where you design a flyer. Put it up and you'd even have those little pull tab things or people could grab issued a paper that has your phone number now though still work but be I wanNA give you the strategy and and really the mistakes that local businesses like yourself are making when you flyer a neighborhood so fly hiring a neighborhood it is. It's very similar to direct mail. But the big difference is that you're saving money unless you've got like a a really terrible suv and gas or something like that. But you're saving money costing time but saving money and you're driving around targeted neighborhoods that you believe would be a good fit for your product or your service and you're typically doing one of two things you're putting reading something in their mailbox or you're hanging something on the door so i WanNa give you best is practices but more cy WanNa tell you the number one mistake that more often than not I see businesses that are deploying the strategy are making so best practices are definitely putting it in something to do with the mailbox. But you've got got to be careful on the legalities so from my understanding. You can't just play something in someone's mailbox WCHS That doesn't have a stamp on it because technically speaking the. US Postal Service has the rights to that mailbox but most of the mailbox have a slot for other stuff for newspapers. Things like that so just be careful there. I mean most businesses are still still putting things in a mailbox. But I'm encouraging you to be careful with that when you go through and you look at the neighborhoods neighborhoods to target. That is usually the first mistake that I see businesses making either they're targeting the wrong neighborhoods or they're not targeting enough of the neighborhoods. It's so you've got to really do some more research before you pick the neighborhoods you've gotta know. How wide of a radius is your product or service going to pull from? What I have found? Is that a lot of local businesses. They literally just pick the quote unquote richest neighborhoods and they assume that those are the right neighborhoods so landscapers for example. They go they pick. Let's say two or three or four five whatever. The number is of the wealthiest neighborhoods in a community and and they put something in the mailbox and then they wait for the phone to ring so mistake. Number one is you've got to know where your target persona own and your target customers are going to come are you targeting those wealthy neighborhoods if yes than those neighborhoods are are good. I'll give you some other tips in just a second. But chances are that they very well may not be the right people or if you're located in one city and you're targeting some wealthy the cities that are twenty five miles away. It's GonNa take you forty five minutes to drive there. It's most likely not going to be the best fit so step. One one is definitely making sure. You're targeting the right communities step two is you want to make sure you're hitting critical mass so like direct mail all this is done in numbers and also frequency so great you've got some neighborhoods picked. The next step is to make sure that you're hitting enough critical mass. So I don't want you just putting out a hundred fliers I want you putting out five hundred thousand might say well Michael. It's GonNa take a while you want agree business. Yes or no if no then forget about it if Yasser GonNa take on this tactic and you're actually going to deploy step one right neighborhood step to five hundred two thousand to give you some critical mass anything below three four five hundred it it becomes a little bit of a challenge to be statistically significant. I want you to be doing five. Hundreds maybe that's five different neighborhoods of one hundred houses for example to start with when you're cruising through a neighborhood. It really doesn't take that long. So that's the second step third step has to do with your actual flyer and this is where I see pretty much every business if not every single business flyer that I've ever gotten goes wrong. Speaking bluntly your your flyer most likely sucks your content. Sucks your clip art images suck. There's no call to action. It's tough to read you photocopied in. It looks terrible. You do not invest enough money and actually having something look high quality in feel high quality. If you'RE GONNA do it yourself maybe you hire somebody. That's a graphic designer that can help you design something a little bit nicer now. It doesn't mean just make it look pretty. The content is much more important than the pretty factor. But you have to speak in terms of benefits not features or you have to what I say. You've got to preach Hell not heaven. Even if you're a landscaper don't tell me that lawn Kartik lawn cutting starting at twenty dollars a week. That does nothing for me. Because I'm GonNa get twenty other flyers flyers just like that over about a two or three week span. What are the benefits of using your service saving you one point three hours per week by taking the lawn hassle off your hands into ours? Maybe you're you're going to save them money because you're going to have the best price. Guaranteed saving you time guaranteeing to save you money. No quote will ever be beaten. You'll give the best price now. You've got another benefit cheaper. Second I benefit was. You're GONNA save time. Look at those benefits. Now when I say preach Hell Not Heaven. I did an earlier. podcast episode about this tactic of your consumers or your prospects are going to move quicker to avoid pain than the artists. Seek pleasure so a a few. Your Flyer could say something like don't let Rodent's burrow into your house due to your grass grass not being cut on a regular basis something like that. That's a lot more catchy than half a beautiful. On all summer someone L.. Move quicker to make sure that not getting a rodent infestation than having a pretty long so the flyer when you have you've step one step two done correctly so the right communities and neighborhoods critical mass. The flyer usually is terrible. Do not put out a terrible flyer. You might still get some responses but you can text responses by putting it on a heavier card stock a nicer Acer card stock having a good call to action it clear from number benefits not features. Use the back of it put a bunch of testimonials on the back for example. Here your neighbors that use US and are happy one two three four five the front and all about your benefits. Why they should hire you with a clear call to action the back is a testimonial stack that flyer? I promise she will outperform any other flare that you were planning on doing that. Step three step four is frequency. Quincy do not just expect to drop that Flyer in once and for your phone ringing off the hook. I'm suggesting you send the same thing in three to five times within about a six week span now depending on your product or service you might have to play with that span a little bit. It's the rule of repetition. You WanNa keep your brand in front of them. You do not have to change up your offer six times. Stay in front of them time and time and time again that is a winning formula for flying neighborhoods in growing your business. It is one of the best strategies. Now you can do. The same thing with door knockers. But I I have not seen the results anywhere as close to putting a nice card stock well-designed Flyer in the right communities with critical mass. Doing it three four four five. Six Times door knockers are much harder to design they get thrown out a lot easier. This strategy is much more lucrative. And I promise you if you deploy Royat as I just described it will add money to your bottom line and top line rapidly. Get out there take some action today. Michael Toddlers signing off. Good morning good afternoon and good night. I'll see you back here tomorrow. Thank you for listening to this episode of marketing. Above all get out there. Make a cane and take some action and hey don't forget to leave about five star review until all your friends. This is the greatest marketing podcast ever ever. If ah we look forward to seeing you here tomorrow.

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Best-Case & Worst-Case Scenarios for the 2021 Bruins | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

Poke the Bear

34:29 min | 5 months ago

Best-Case & Worst-Case Scenarios for the 2021 Bruins | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

"And welcome in to poke the bear episode 26 in honor of this season. I don't know how twenty-six B honor the season but poke the bear episode 26 Bruins regular season starts this week. I'm having marriage alongside Connor and a Boston Sports Journal Connor. How we doing Evan? I'm doing very well at long last. We finally have Bruins hockey back by the time this gray six years of our listeners. They'll be Bruins hockey on the horizon finally. So I'm doing swell. How you doing good and it'll be hockey tonight. Technically Traders Thursday night. We're recording this Wednesday right off for the Penguins Flyers game, which is actually I don't think it's ever been a thing where the Penguins Flyers game has any impact on the Bruins in the standings Instead This is you know, now this is it in Bangkok. It's just wow, but yes, I'm very happy very excited for this season. And for all the let's just make sure to go subscribe to Bruins Rammstein on YouTube. Maybe you're watching this on pranks on YouTube. And if you're not subscribed, it's free just subscribe CZ but at any rate this it's fun. Cuz as we say this we've been saying this as things have progressed to now we always say there's more to talk about there's more to talk about cuz you think of those podcast you're doing, you know back in June and those Pockets were doing you know November and it was nothing there was nothing the biggest news off these news when I was in quarantine didn't have a fun time when we were ranked and like Thanksgiving food for like legitimate. I think maybe 35 minutes of like a 40-minute podcasts job. I had I had a swell time Evan but I understand this is a hockey. This is a hockey podcast. So well, it's at Thanksgiving stuffing podcast as well. So we'll get what they want dead. But anyways, that's quite a bit and we'll get to all of it within the next 35 minutes big news before we get to sort of the on the ice stuff Willie o'ree rightfully rightfully rightfully. I got his number retired number 22 forcing Craig Smith phone number twelve. So Craig Smith is time is 22 lasted about two weeks. Yeah very quick but rightfully so and by the way, I'll say this month. You should never even got 22 because Willie o'ree is number should have been retired way before this should not I wish this happened years ago, but glad to see it finally do happen. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean definitely need an overdue honor it's you know, kind of ashamed that when it finally does get retired in February barring some miraculous thing, right? It's not going to be a a full Garden or or anything like that. So hopefully they get Willie back to the Garden at some point once, you know fans are allowed back in safely and they can give him kind of that proper ceremony because I think once that, New Jersey Dropped on on Tuesday. I think everyone was just like finally right like it was one of those ones where it's like it was pretty much a no-brainer for you know his impact as a troll blazing figure in the game of hockey and not just that but his efforts after hockey. I mean he kind of talked about that when speaking to the media on Wednesday that someone's like he's more well-known now in terms of what his role is Jose in terms of you know, speaking about his experience and continue to grow the game of hockey which is you know, something that the league has been focus on for years now and he's played a key role in that in that, you know venture to grow the game. So yeah, I mean again when the news came out it was at least surprising news ever in terms of you know, how deserving he is of that and his role in hockey. So it's good to see him finally get get that do for for you know, the career that he had especially and judging Rolling the game, you know, it's not just these looking through like the staff book at you know, how many goals or anything like that? You know, it's it's what he meant to the game and frame to get you know, his name up in the rafters with guys that are sung in this with the Bruins and hockey in general right? It's just a fitting tribute to to a guy like Willy but it is funny. Cuz when you do think of Bruins Legends, he is someone that I do think you you think of in terms of those guys like his name is up there and rightfully so should be with the cam Neely's to Bobby Orr's the the Rick military O'Reilly's just cuz the impact he said is you mentioned, you know pass the stats. Take away the stats just change the amount. He's done even after hockey. I mean just the amount. He's grown the game the hockey is for everyone campaign, you know, we talked yesterday or Tuesday and how they kind of called him to the 1991 All-Star game and it was kind of the first time where they were like, Oh, this is actually you know, he's a big deal and ever since then it's been consistent, you know, like doing these clinics and spreading the game. So he's a hero. He's a legend an absolutely awesome to see his name go up to the rafters where it should take 22 should be up there. So great to see Willie. O'ree get the recognition. He deserves he's been honored at the Garden before I believe there was a game. I looked up on YouTube this game against the Canadiens a few years ago, but to see him get honored for his number retiring is a whole different ball game. So congrats to Willie big big props to a Legend So now track season 2 Bruins topics for the season. Obviously, let's get into. Well, there's some positives and negatives. We'll start with some volatile spots in the lineup. So most of the lineup feels like it's pretty set. It's been set sense to start a camp. There hasn't been a lot of changes in the line-up at all. So this is kind of birth. Parts that I think there's five will start. I think the first two lines for now are good. They're fine. There's no real changes on the horizon. But on the third line, this might surprise you but Nick Ritchie on the left side people aren't sold on Nick Ritchie yet. They're not they're not like every time I tweeted a on Wednesday during practice just the lines and again, you would think that I like flipped off clean up all of my followers like the the visceral reaction. I get a name like I'm just treating the Lions guys. Please have I have some mercy on us the information but yes, yes people are not too pleased about Nick Ritchie. And by the way, it's this isn't like a range thing where it's like we like there's the pro Rask and then the anti Rask and we're not like most of us are pro Rask's or like we're not like telling you to like Nick Ritchie cuz truthfully none of us are sold on them. Either so it's sort of like like you're yelling at people who probably agree with you on this like like it's like the the Hannibal Buress stories. Why are you yelling at me? I'm right like whatever that message with the chairman of the whole time like one of those I think I think it's worth looking into and I'm it's a good thing. I think that they're looking into this to see if this works to really see if maybe Nick Ritchie just kind of get the starting wage last year a pandemic the bubble. Maybe this is different but I do think that that is a spot in the lineup. That is very subject to change. Yeah. No, I think especially considering also the fact that you got a lot of guys that thought into that third line role. I mean in just Buicks going to be stopping the air on the fourth line, but he could slide into that spot which he's had a lot of experience with you know, you could you maybe guys on if Jackson I should makes the taxi Squad and he gets called up. He could be a guy, you know, sanika could be put in a third line role one spot when it comes back as a lot of guys that can fill out this month. Which is good for the Bruins. It's probably the most depth. They've had up front in a long long time. So they had the luxury that if it's a failed experiment, you know, I kind of grasping for straws like we saw last year. They opened the you with thet Richie as crazy as right-wing doesn't pan out and then it's again when I scored the first game he scored the first started off great and then he couldn't count 282 and it kind of went downhill from there. You know, I felt like I remember that but but like again, yeah, it's when I was younger he doesn't pan out and back then they're like well shit. All right. What are we what are we doing now? We've got the same problem that's been plaguing us for years. Now, do they get under a Costco? But now if they're in a similar situation this year, you know at least are helped out by the fact that you know, they can turn to other options who should be able to hold their own in that role but you you can see why starting the year getting a clean giving Clean Slate to Gali came in Kasha and I mean so far Rich even solid a camp like it's not like he's God. reinvent the wheel or drastically changes game I mean I asked Cassidy during practice on Wednesday kind of what the message was him and how we would complement that line and he said that you know when you go to park position guy like oil you got a shooter like Smith like all you got to do is be the guy up front right you gotta be the one to you know chip shots get rebounds like again it's not this isn't any wage you know Revelation in terms of what you're seeing from him just to play that game and play physical not take really bad penalties as we saw on the play-offs but but again if he can speak kind of that steady third line guy who you know is able to add some physicality which I think is you know I think we've talked about a couple of times as much as I think we both hate the Bruins maintain a force to a narrative they do at least need some guys or size right because I think we're all dreading when they play the capitals and if Kevin Miller's you know hurt or they God French and gather Frederickson on the line up like who's kind of be your guy that's going to answer, you know, a guy like pasta or not gets its run or something like that. So it makes money since we're going to start with Richie and we'll see how it goes. But at least they have some other options in case it doesn't pan out. Yeah, and I think that's sort of thing. I mean, obviously we always make fun of the Bruins need to enforce or crowd but I do think that like you do need wage or Body Shop plus don't have that. I want to I was thinking about this I want to post this question cuz last year at the deadline, obviously, it's for the Fallout from it. We criticized Sweeney and the front office a lot for but if they've got Coleman, let's say they get Coleman instead of Richie. And they get Palmieri instead of cascia. I think we're probably more confident in the lineup if Coleman in Kasha a Coleman and Paul Marion, but let's just say they got Coleman a set of cascia for some reason and they didn't get rich and they got somebody else. Yeah. Would you rather have Coleman in Kasha or know you'd rather have Kasha than Coleman mean it's a tough. It's like again, I put Coleman kind of the same category as coil where it's like if he's like your third line guy you're rolling and you've got a really good 3rd liner if you put them up and like a second or a top-six role and you're like, wow, you know, I mean, he's so good player. Like we saw in the playoffs freshly how good Willie Coleman is but Kasha I think maybe is more of the boom-or-bust guys. So I mean, I think you look at again his numbers off every time I read about it people. Yeah, we didn't score which a fair point. I can't really counter that argument that he didn't score at all. But I mean, you know, I'd rather have at least the guy who's generating those looks and a guy named. Kind of like a black hole on offense. So well the other thing with cautious and I saw GJ being right this I thought it was a good point. He's kind of like a scratch ticket like a high-value scratch ticket one that has a good chance of working out where it's like you just the potential that he's a top-six forward like and like a good chance to stop 64 Coleman not really, you know is probably going to be a 3rd line guy ROM a lot of older line guys going to go to the top two lines for some reason just kind of crumble. I think you'd do fine. But I kind of thought about that. I was like, I wonder if the deadline with different last year what would happen I would love to have Palmieri Palmieri wage is not as the guy that is the guy will be interesting to see what happens with him this year when the Devils aren't last place like starting tomorrow or starting Thursday are going to they're going to win they're going to page right now. You said that but yeah, they're going to win the first moved here from there another spot in the lineup on the fourth line. I mean, I guess you could say the whole fourth line, but it feels like corellian wage. Probably deafen. It's just because they need that size and and a little bit of that speed. But I'm just Bjork. I think you're going to see potentially rotated in and out with a guy like Fredrik depending on the size of the lineup. You're facing if you're facing the capitals I got it's probably more likely got like Fredrik goes in do you think they do that? Yeah, I think they should I mean I think that's when you're able to Dick Sayed matchups with your fourth line and we know how much Cassidy values that fourth line not as just like a line. It's going to run you be a physical line. Like you've used that line as being crucial to the team success because usually they're tasked with all those, you know, daunting D Zone, you know faceoffs and not charming and stop six opponents. So when they're rolling and they're negating one of those other lines opens the door for, you know, Bergeron to get more ozone stats and you know be able to land more punches against the opposition. So getting that fourth line back up to back up to paav how they were especially in, Georgia. 2018 nineteen when they were really clicking I think it's going to be a key for this team. I think it's a good a good thing to have when you have a guy like Bjork in Frederick who both offer a little bit of different things. But you know, I could see where you are cuckoo, you know his I think his offensive ceiling is pretty limited but I think in a straight line for checking role with his speed is transitioning game actually think he's you know, solid pick to put in there and as the guy who can at least probably help you negate a top-six opponent. Now, if you're going up against the capitals or something like that and you need more size than Frederick makes a lot of sense. So and again if you can kind of split those guys based on the match everything it's a good a good problem to get for Cassie to have and you know, if you get Frederick in the lineup and he starts yelling and he sets foot of offensively and he sets, no more roll great. Like I don't use any issue with kind of splitting it based on those match up and seeing who kind of takes, you know control of that opportunity because I think both guys home Offer something pretty different in terms of what they could bring to that fourth line, but both have you know, intriguing, you know potential in terms of how they can kind of elevate that fourth line after it kind of took a dip last year. I thought obviously worried about the guy like Bjork is you know, he has that potential to get those extra points. He has the potential to I mean, you know, we've said it is entire time here. There's that top six potential with him and god, it feels like things are you know, pretty steady upfront you might not need Bjork, especially if it's a Nika ends up panning out, especially if Nick Ritchie pins out. Well, so maybe Bjork trade ship later in the season. I don't know they have them signed three years. So I don't think they're planning on trading them and with the Seattle draft feels like he might be the guy that's exposed. That might not be a safe bet but what took a safe bet is BetOnline AG Connor. Tell the loyal beautifulest about BetOnline. Absolutely Heaven. Listen up guys. It's an exciting time of the year around the Sports World wage. NFL playoffs are here. The NBA is back in full swing James Harden's with the Nets. The world is crumbling and at long last Bruins hockey has finally returned and even though you may not be at a game this year. You can still get in on the action at that online. 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I just actually saw on my phone while you were reading that poem that the cats bury capital and Shayne gostisbehere will be out for against the Penguins and the Flyers which you listeners know already cuz it's in the past but for us it's off in the future. So we're going to see quite a few of those at this year goes on. Yes, so I want to get into that actually so on D, obviously the spots in the lineup lausanne ends Borel approval Kevin Miller on the right side. You never know with injuries, but let's get into what could go wrong and what could go very right. So we'll do best-case worst-case scenario. Let's do worst first cuz we gotta start with that. We gotta start bad to me and I think people are forgetting this with the line up. Like don't get used to the line up as is your your team is traveling a lot to different places. It sucks. I hope it doesn't happen. I hope this doesn't happen, but you're going to have some Covetous shoes. And you're going to miss guys for games. I mean tonight customary capita not in the lineup for the Penguins gostisbehere, but the Flyers there will be more you see with the star. I mean the Stars got killed off guard who drove and had a three weeks who'd opened set a record for how long you been surprising news ever attempted open announcing that he had covid-19. And you have a 2016 Winter Classic caliber lineup. You're rolling out in March. I think that's the worst case scenario. Yeah. No, absolutely. I mean I thank you look at and ask me something you have to expect and prepare yourself for because again, it's not even like these are also all right positive tests. Sometimes it's just a guy's feeling under the weather and they are waiting the waiting to get the test. It could be inclusive test. So there's a lot of variables a lot of stuff that can prompt it's team to hold a player out. So yeah, it's going to be a challenge especially for as much as passengers. This training camp is focused on keeping a lot of these lines together, you know, the Christian Kasha and debrusk and Richie a coil and Smith, you know, you don't know what's going to happen. Once you get to the edge season where you going to have some of these lines fragmented, you know a game a game or two just because of Cobra protocol. So it's going to be a challenge for this team and you know a worst case scenario would be you know, a multi birth. Major outbreak or you know Cassidy mentioned that they've they're trying to keep Tuukka Rask in the arse love halak separated. Just you know, worst case scenario. They both get it you're looking at about 2 weeks of of putting Red Cross in that. Yeah, exactly. I mean and again, it's it's one thing where it's a challenge during any you know Season where you're missing key, you know because of Cobra Pro two calls, but especially this year where it's 56 games and things like a hundred twelve days something like that like two weeks of going, you know, one and five or or something like that can you know plunge you down the the standings in a hurry and especially considering how competitive the East is, you know, all it takes is a couple of weeks and all the sudden you're you're kind of chasing it whole rest of the year or so, I'd say that's definitely the worst case scenario and then you can look beyond that to just the the amount of holes that they have not holes. But question marks they have on this Bruins team and if none of them pan out, then you've got a job. she and I think most I think we agreed revolves around situation on defense which not only is just the the structure being impacted and losing you know what guys like Charter and crude would gave you but I would also is a domino effect how it affects the other defenseman how much you know Charlie McAvoy is going to get taxed or how much more you know grade eight chances are coming back to go ask any ourselves blocks away like if that if that deep here really full completely and none of those guys stand out and aren't even you know again we're not looking for these guys to be called her you know candidates or anything like that but if they're just kind of like what lausanne gave them last year you know from January to March that's like all their kind of looking for right is a guy like that they can hold his own so off again this is a bruin seen that has a lot of question marks a lot of guys who you expect would be you know poised for either breakout years when you look at a guy like the broad score Kasha or or you know home Guys like that, but if none of those guys pan out or you know, again we can dive into expected goals and all these other, you know stats, but if it doesn't mean doesn't mean shit, right if it doesn't actually transmission goes on the on the board. So again a lot to be excited for this year. But if none of these guys pan out, then you're gonna have to be retooling on the Fly this year just to stay afloat. Nice. It should be like if you have to expected goals for you get automatically one-goal. Yes. That's how it should work. You get one just just for having expected. But yes, I also think another part of that aspect of this is like I think the division and this is how I kind of think about the division. It's tougher in a sense because you have more spread out talent, but it's not as tough because You're not facing the the mega team. That is the lightning. You're not facing the Maple Leafs who are very close to you how it was much of a drag on them to look at it and Toronto Tampa and Boston are all favored to win their divisions right now according to bet online. And so I think when that when you see that now those are the top three teams in one division for the past seven years or whatever it's been and now they're all spread out so goes to show you so I think this division will be easier to finish but I but it's more spread out. So if you if you have guys missing time and you do go one and five have fun being a fifth or sixth place team for a good amount of time. So I think it's very volatile. It's not as like concrete but you're not I guess you're not facing as tough teams now best case scenario is covid-19 Hu that hard cuz I guarantee it's going up some issue with cold, but someone's going to get exposed at some point. Just how it works off. Fortunately best cases you don't ever really have to deal with that stuff. The other teams do pretty gets covid-19. When the Stanley Cup I could you say that says best case scenario. How can you say something? So controversial controversially? It's so so correct evidence. How can you say something? So controversial? It's so great. That's the Eric Andre. Yes, Eric Andre reference those who don't understand the Eric Andre show cuz we've been just like you dropping multiple references the entire. I don't want to I don't want to destroy my room though. That's yesterday. I have a nice desk. I'm on birth. I don't want to just like, you know, watch it. I mean, maybe they get to The Cup Final will do that. But yeah, well just destroy our respective rooms. Yes, we'll go to it each other's rooms and just destroy it off like opens done by that. Yeah. That's the first how we celebrate some people go to baz know. I'm going to trash my my podcast Coast place. All right bucket who cares? Yeah, but yeah, that's best case scenario. Right? I mean is that that would be the best possible scenario? Yeah. I mean I think for the Bruins as much as I think there's probably a lot of I'm not Doom and Gloom is the right word, even though when we cash it, he said today the worst said on Wednesday that he believes their Stanley Cup caliber team and got quite a few mixed reactions on the social media sphere of people thinking they're you know, I don't know if they think just the windows completely shut or they're not going to make the playoffs or I mean, I still think they're at least the top two team in the East I still think they're very good team. I think people are downplaying how much having probably the best Tandem and net in the East is going to help out this team in a compressed schedule. We're at least you've got two guys you can turn to or a few these other teams are going to be home, you know rolling with you know, khada Hai playing a whole bunch of games or you know, I think that's going to mean quite a bit once you look at the schedule and how compressed it is for the Bruins. I mean you kind of map out. You know the veteran talent you have that you're still, you know, be all world. You look at pasta not coming back healthy March and coming back healthy shake and the rest off wage. I think the biggest determine is just if those those young defenseman can't can kind of hold their own but then you like you look at some of the other guys who are either going to be looking at added minutes or more responsibilities and they you know, how they feared the last couple of years in those roles coupled with guys who are poised to break out or younger guys who just should take that next step where it's you know, McEvoy M or Carlo or a Grizzly under his added rolls the Brusque Akasha, you know, there's so many other guys sanika who will sassy a with Bergeron and long and like you kind of plug in where some of these guys are putting the line up and you know how they're projected to do and how they fared in those sorts of Four and you can kind of see why like There's you know, I think some level of optimism that as long as they're able to get some stability at least on that blue line. Like this is a team where they have so many other pieces moving in the the right direction in terms of the natural development of some of these younger guys that like there's still a very very good team. Like I think you had Craig Smith to the mix and heels go quite a bit. But I think if you have just you know, it's like when you play like two k or like NHL franchise mode in all your guys have like the little green arrow going a little bit better in their development. I think you're seeing like that with a bunch of other guys on this team. So again, is it going to be enough to offset took a double as it felt like offset losing Chara and crew, you know remains to be seen. I think that's going to be the biggest determining cuz if they're if they have to win games, you know, six five or you down for 3 every single night that's going to be a pain and all that they can keep that up over a compressed schedule, but I think you look at just the amount of guys who are poised to be breakout guys, and I think you should have at least a mom. ISM that you know, this team can still be a viable contender in this East Division also suck for Rask having to face. Yes shots a night. Yeah, I would not very fun not to tell me how to do you guys want to do some Doom and Gloom dafoomie had a tweet today that might induce some Doom and Gloom. I know a lot of Bruins fans including Bruins writers like us like to take a look at the past and compared to the present 2013-14 Presidents Trophy loses second round 2014-15 boy checking in lagaan missed the playoffs translate to now nineteen twenty Presidents Trophy lose in the second round 2018 or 2021 season Char and Krug on what's next 2014-15 was Posh frocks. Rookie season, 20 21 Jackson Eagles rookie season. So if you want to have some fun of Doom and Gloom with that you have history on your side your history, but I do think that as you said if they can just get stability out of the barrel and lausanne if you can just get Nick Ritchie to do the bare minimum wage. Just get to the net. Jim home some rebounds Winston Puck battles along the wall create some space you'll be fine. Don't take dumb penalties, you know, and we expected tripping penalties from him guys flying by not, you know about drilling Yanni gourde face into the glass, but just just the bare minimum if sanika can just hold his own with marshawna Bergeron, they'll be fine. So it's it's not like the Bruins are expecting, you know, they didn't it's not like, you know, they're expecting or they need Sydney cat to match popsrocks production. You don't need Jeremy lausanne to be Zdeno Dodge Charge. You just need to have guys be solid that's it and that stuff and you you know, that that could easily be proven very tough covid-19. Bad, I don't think they're they don't suck. They're not going to suck. It's very optimistic isn't it again for the headline? Like they are not going to suck. They don't suck. I say they're second in the East and I know you think that too I will do go through the rest of my division cuz I did I did I did a very very heavily researched definitely not just thrown together group of teams for the East for me. It's Philly first Boston the New York Islanders the Caps the Rangers the Penguins Sabres Devils, I think everybody has Sabres Devils as seven and eight. I don't think anyone doesn't but the top six see to me the top two are pretty obvious. I feel like it's the middle for that. You're going to have a lot of different. It's going to be changing quite a bit. I'm interested to hear what you think of that and what you think of that yeah when you would like what you would do. I mean I am Think you know, the the top of the news is all going to be pretty jammed together, but I have C Flyers Bruins caps pens. Islanders who don't make the cut ranges cuz that defense scares the shit out of me as as much as I think they're going to be lighting up guys that defense is holyshit Thursday and then like a Tony Tony D area for fun. And then I mean pick your poison which one like All Savers and then Devils but this is those are clearly going to punching bags in the in the East it sucks for those two teams though, by the way, because like for the devil's you're not going to have other you don't have the Red Wings to beat up on you're not going to have the docks. You're not going to change the shity teams. Oh, yeah to get wins with your going to just get your own. So you gotta play the Sabres the worst team you're going to play like they're better than you and and the devil's office just lost Corey offered. So yeah, I mean to me, I think the Rangers just missed the cut like the Rangers are surprisingly optimistic this year and and good but I'm gonna be a lot of fun to watch I feel like in a Another year or two, especially they're going to be a wagon like I think they're Rangers Fan you should be excited this year is going to be fun as hell like seeing a lot of these young guys kind of cut their teeth up in the NHL. So I think they're one year away cuz they gotta wash they can add somebody's on that blue line cuz can't win with that Decoy like that. Oh, no, but I mean you have cocco in a second-year you have left for yay. You know you have you have quite a bit of pieces over there and I'm interested to see how long does with the Caps that is a really that's what I'm very interested in to see if he's playing all the time to see what his role is. We saw him miked up the other day or on on Tuesday 6 to be fitting in well down in the nation's capital, but nonetheless that is the East that is the Bruins. We were very excited for the start of the Season Connor. What can a listener's look forward to from you over at Boston Sports Journal. Yeah. I just dropped the along feature breaking down the top breakout cannot to the Bruins I talked about before so it's a bit of a deep dive on guys who I think are wrong. really paid dividends for the team this year and you know see if they can kind of push this team take another step forward as they look ahead to the days you know without Fraser on & Company in the coming years so I have feature on that and then once you guys listen to this on on Thursday morning I have a couple of things breaking down this season so follow along our Boston Sports channel subscribe there you can follow me on Twitter at, Ryan I'm just going 93 we're both Evan and I will have plenty of tweets and gifs and more in the coming days with the NHL season finally back oh you listeners are so lucky but go do all that make sure to subscribe to b s j and that is Connor kind of Boston Sports channel I'm Aronofsky honest media you Bruins fans enjoy tonight's game and have a great rest of your week

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Rachael Flanagan  Fire in the Belly

The Roots of Leadership Podcast

24:07 min | Last month

Rachael Flanagan Fire in the Belly

"Welcome to the roots of leadership with anthony. Grupo this is anthony grupo and you are in for a treat today on the roots of leadership. I'm joined by rachel flanagan. Rachel thanks for coming on the show. Thank you really really excited to speak to day. You know ritual. Every time i get to spend time with you. I just walk away so inspired and energized. So i know the listeners are going to get a great deal of from from our conversation so let me just give you a little background for the listeners. About rachel rachel founded mrs boucher at the age of eighteen. This was in two thousand and five and she started with only twenty pounds of promotional flyers. Right is that And i'm going to say a clear. A american audience talking about pounds as in as in a dollars and currency not in weight. So that was right right. Rachel just twenty pounds spent on promotional flyers yet just twenty raids which felt like you know massive amounts of money back then so and i think it was really think about twenty pounds in a hoover. Your ambition was a set up a consistent reliable cleaning service and to give people the opportunity to grow and you really invested in people. You've you've become one of the leaders in the industry you've been published and a lot of therapy thing from business. Live to all kinds of publications. And you're one of the most driven ambitious exciting entrepreneurs i've ever known so let's have a conversation. Yeah rachel your story is one that people dream of and dream about and think about every day in day. Can they do it right. Can they be rachel flanagan. Let's go back to the start in the beginning. And because what. What did you know you had to as a as a young girl you had this spirit. When did you know yes so hard. Isn't it when you kind of always felt this way. But i i think at a young age and just to give you a background of the business is out now. I'm so a way on track for this year for two million and we need grown by a million in the last twelve months through kobe. Jr am as well and we've got three hundred plus staff over the next three years. We're going to be an recruiting another three hundred and but yeah. I never really imagined. Deaths back then when i was eighteen. When you just said no. vote the spirit a Days to me. It's when you know. When i think about it now we're at because i've got two small children of all those little things that make you my man. My dad j.j. go into swim in last sentence. An having really good coach and a use to say to me. You know it doesn't just happen. You gotta be fished in the pool. And you're going to be the law in the poo. And i passed what i do. I always go a little bit Alia train early iras while and then doing some extra training at the end and two and swimming for me. That was really good last son when i was really young and and it was also wax. My dance started his business later on in his life. Thank you is more like the middle forty the mid forty s and will he used to do because he used to run a catering company and i actually kicked him out of his office one day and i said to him. I really really wanted to run my own shelf. And he he took me to macro is which is like this big massive warehouse and he has caused so he would lend me the money. I mean i. I was probably ten ten or nine and every day after school. I put my sign up on the main rewards. All these people are going to come in. But they didn't really have is just my. My few will find that. I had a real tail because he got to the year from one of his campaign staff had closed down and just even using hill and the receipt coming out when i was punching the numbers. That was such a strong last sandwich. Oh we now v appreciate because it made me realize a new kind of war it takes to make money. 'cause i was you know it was kind of like a real role play with the shock and it was tiny the office law as you know. And so i think it was like those types of moments I think a lot about that now with having children myself The power of role play is massive and quite the race to just net where we think we need to go to universtiy by all of the amazing entrepreneurs that we know how this crew in determination and they just go out there duets. Man this dry. And so i i feel the spirit came from when i was young. And on having those people and those coaches around me at the time as you were talking rachel the business has really grown you talk about four million three hundred employees and do and due to double this so this was you know the work of an eighteen year old entrepreneur. That's why it's so important to have have leaders like you on the show because all listeners gained so much from hearing that you know you talk about role play grit determination practice the greats. I've ever met served with worked with lived with they practice and they don't they don't let go of that. It becomes inherited them and in fact. If i remember you telling me. I think even did you even have some of your friends as young. Hd you put them to work. Yeah well yeah so then moving on when i was then a in and so i was you know i. I wasn't reading engaged with college. Be you know i do feel. I wish i'd done more but i had this. Have this idea of salting. It was a domestic cleaning company. Like in people's homes. Because i came home one day and i was in the middle of sixty may levels. So the eighteen-year-old when the levels and i was coming back my little forward cau- coming back home to my mom's house. My dad's and the clean was was leaving early. So that's why. I thought the idea because i could see that my memoirs was stress. I could see that you know that she wasn't doing a great job by members. Paid for four hours was only staying for two hours. I was bumped in college and coming home. You know again. I'll get away the best. And then i was catching the clean air act but then i thought wow they must be so many other families out there that are experienced nece if i sat at the business and i i run it as a team i look at them. But i motivate them and train them. You know Kind of while to everybody else crazy ideas and so in my business lab exam. I mean i would love to see that. Pay by ned who went back match picked up my certificates because i was just too driven szott mind my mrs bouquet janey off. I wrote my business plan in my business levels because we had two hours to write about a case. Study in like think about. Was this business so just wrote for two hours ideas and and then i spent twenty cred of black white flyers. I mean he didn't even have a vacuum cleaner. 'cause couldn't afford i couldn't afford about vacuum. Tina i mean twenty one to me was like probably like five six hours away. Probably do every weekend. So i spent down on black and white. Little flyers hasn't logo made me and my mate every single night. We bomb around the house in stay anywhere that we think like whereas the moms and the dads hang out with small children you know like me now stress the two small children time whoever you went you have clean because it makes your life so much easier at and we would just go around and kill. These ten thousand flyers were gone. I literally just had to wait for the phone calls to come in and that is that is how war. Starting the business was back. Then you know yeah because a lot of the things that you're talking about what you started missing k. rate and a little paper strategy and just a lot of courage and shoe leather. That there's there's a lot of listeners right now and entrepreneurs and leaders that that are hearing what you say that they've they may have found the need they may have just like you did or people need their homes cleaned and they found the need but sometimes they they overanalyze it. Too much right. They spend too much time processing. Like here's the need. Let's go and we're just going to get after it has have you found that that energy that -bility that can do attitude. Are you able to still apply it at the size that mrs bouquets now and yes i mean i gotta be careful land. Because i'm running a team. So i i got to be controlled within the nice way and go no as you know. We win william too fast now. We need to slow down because the team needs to do this. Oh processes and things like that. And that i find the baked that we've gone. I suppose in a way like the easier is getting because you can be more agile with a team you can we put the processes in systems in like you know those stocked up days like thin hajjah than starter phase to me like when you've got nestle saying like no money at all and you physically you know stopped everything from scratch. And but yeah. I mean i still have the energy that i have now that when i had back then i mean obscene. I've got you know. I've got much more debt. Family responsibilities and things like that now. Some constant knee john glen. I really run my life my life like a business my personal life. Because that's the way that works me with my children so then i don't. I mean everyone has mom guilt may. I'm wearing multiple hats compared to before when i was eighty know waking empty hours a week doing everything i remember that you know. I'm sure the phone on saturday wound. Pretend tonight as little book. Keep baron staff bill because every saturday morning. That's when i would do the bucks an aspirin every deliver seats. That was the only way. I can do it then i i couldn't afford to keep back. I'm so happy to do. So i think this i think stockton. At was such a good thing to me personally. Because i didn't have any other responsibilities. I could throw myself in. You know gulf right. Yeah you look. There's three things he just said that. That's really incredible is so critically important is that we do have to run. Our lives organized we. And and it's been proven now and rachel. You know this that the children of working moms dads parents that see that role modeling. Go onto be high achievers. Often because they they see what it takes right to hard work and his sacrifice and and the mom guilt guilty you mentioned actually is really hard on parent but it's really productive for the child. Yeah we're going to face it too. Yeah yeah and i think. I think now i much check in with mike south you know with you know when you saw getting mature theories of the things that is more important to the business different times so the way the i ballad said is. I work four days. I have a friday off my children back. That doesn't mean that. I put the hours in Yes i do. You know i think is a bit of people lie. Since they say they've got they've got it all yolks but that's how i manage it and then i pre- buck my holidays. I love doing like nice fund things and little things my friends and my husband and everything is in the diarrhea like bus. Just the way. I mean for me. It's the rhythm of my life is the rhythm of my life. It works if i'm not doing. I like an high guinness while like woken. Me is a big big thing my wallaby and we live at me. A bracken in wales off the mountains. And then i've also got the gala which is the beach so i got the best of both worlds but again if you don't put it in the diarrhea plan than you can say all these things you can't do it so i i liked about in my diary just planet we saying. Yeah because you're always susceptible we don't do that that someone else's procrastination creates our emergency. Yes especially when we have to lead a lot of people. This is a little bit of insulation from that rachel. Let's let's go to for moma to when you're looking for and i was taken by when you said your your mom's cleaning person right you know. Just that's where you. I had the inspiration when you recruit now when you look for for a good a good colleague to come into the business. What are some of the triggers. The traits the talents. That that you look for and sometimes you can spot easily might be hard to find hard to see. Yes so we i mean ultimately. We're looking for people who are waiting for customers. Say best now because we want the our cleaning teams our colleagues to speak to our clients to engage. So you know being confident being able to speak to a client. I contact all last key because euro knee as good as your front line in this type of industry and you're only as good as your loss clean as well and we want someone who's detailed so we do tasks some nice behind the scenes. Why will give them a reuben will ask them. Tell me how you would cleaning this room because obviously And you know there's a. Mac did behind a a personality type as wild latte. How they gang of how they would physically cleaner week do taxes wild where we do trials to go and do a trial so then we can actually see what they liked the Coaching with them and will help them got vigils things to help them do as well. Not try this pasta. Because i think sometimes employer will just check people into the band that you know we can teach so matches whilst that also help sign and just just you know Clean as around when a ceo was around. You know in the nighttimes in the office says and you got to have the meta personable while because fast reading a key. That's what we're looking for ultimately and then we can teach you to give them all the skills you know for all the other staff. Yeah you know something that that you said that. I think we often forget about. Is those those interview or training. That's really based around action scenarios or make see how people think i think too often. Businesses look at resumes and cds and we talk about the stoorikhel achievements or outcomes of the individual. But that doesn't really tell us what we need to know. And what kind of outcomes. We're going to get because it's tough. It's tough to interview and and make the right hire there. You know you. You built in a credible business. You have visions of the future. What's next rachel. you know. Rachel flanagan founder. Ceo of mrs bouquet. Or ed. what's it. What's what's next and i'll i don't know i don't know i mean i i. I'm still massively passionate about working with mrs bouquet and you know to grow which the next live like a eight. To ten million is is. I would go basketball. Striving for you know we're on track where you know would just growin steady behind the scenes winning right clients with just gotten small now with who we to save and and then when you start winning some of these clients than the clients can so i. I'm really enjoying it. I love week in with entrepreneurs while i'm you know. Inspiring them and motivate them. And you know coaching and darren than probably is is the right which me why lead than just see where it goes like gun. I'm okay. I'm okay about that as well and quite a roadmap ahead of you get to a business to be triple the size. I mean that is. That is a all hands on deck. All energy applied rachel. Yesterday i was. I spent some time with jamie peacock the legendary rugby player. It's just one of the greatest champions ever in the united kingdom in jamie said something that i want. I wanna take you to for moment. He said that if you say no to everything you're you're yes is don't mean anything and as you the more successful you become the more people ask right where they want you to be. How do you decide and this would really help our audience. What how do you decide what to say no to. And i have a couple of things in my head. When thing saw slide into me and sometimes i do feel like the control. You know. it's getting too much. I'll go back to will walked. What am i doing us going to make a big difference. The business so for me is anything. That's an asset. So what i mean by that. In if if i can create things like they joe's even with with our marketing teams to do you know update mall in com a fact me asset because that will consistently bringing with into the business and then you like once. You've done evade. Joe what you've done a podcast. Would you dan reagan lead. So i quite lot of now signed to the business and and then another is all to do with like roi. So i do spend quite of my time. In sales in the business mole front page. And then you know the the operations team of very robust now and then they go in an run the operations but i i spend more of my time on anything to do with assets of ceos and then all the at the staff which is like running the business acts to do with operations i brought in people and then i measure that through really good. Kpi's metrics and. i called the rhythm of our business. We have daily huddles weekly meetings monthly monthly management meetings and aboard smitten every other month as well so they pay their read important meeting that. I'm on and everything else. I look at right. That's not me that needs to go back. And i'll call it sometimes a bassinet fact you why is that come to me and then you know checking in with yourself or absolutely love that love that response there are so many leaders said build things whatever but then they they have that they don't mean to i think sometimes but they had that desire to know all the detail and command and control wanna know where every decision and it just it. Just grinds business to the hall and when you said the rhythm of the business because you're the heartbeat of the business right all the colleagues all the colleagues are but but still you're the generator. Fanta rachel as as we as we wrap up our conversation for a moment. Let's just let's just recap for the listeners. Because everytime with rachel there's always so much you always have so much role play. Practice have grit in determination. Find the need create a strategy and then do the the hard heavy lifting and legwork. That goes with it. You know to think about what you say yes to that helps with the rhythm of the business and us using organization system not just around your business but your personal life and you know rachel one of the things i think that that is the essence of your greatness. Is that you. Do you do understand where you need to improve but you also understand your responsibilities a role model. I i wish you. All the continued success. Rachel and Is wonderful to have you on the show. Thank you so much. Thank you day. The ethnic group. Thank you for joining myself and rachel flanagan to founder and ceo of mrs bouquet who at the age of eighteen had a dream and currently is executing on that and gravy dreams for others have a great day.

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Trader Joes Platinum Reserve Pinot Noir 2019

The CheapWineFinder Podcast

05:30 min | 8 months ago

Trader Joes Platinum Reserve Pinot Noir 2019

"And the stem from cheap wine bar, again. And again, I was always another one. And shouldn't drop your flute. And this one is a Trader Joe's Platinum a reserve Pinot Noir from Santa Rita Hills 2019 Lot 19 sales and Trader Joe's simply pushing the Platinum Reserve wines lately and it's kind of like it off. Our fearless Flyers says that they are equal to wines at twice the price and Beyond and the price range for these things have been fourteen ninety-nine. I think in the past they've been up and down but because I had Okawville Napa Cabernet Sauvignon, that was really nice and the house speaks Hillsong. So your game in its your seem to be getting a wine that you don't normally find for 1499. In a wine shop or in a civil Market 1499 for one isn't you know anything unusual but a Trader Joe's were you know, that's you know, everything is 999 or less for the most part. Yeah. And they do such a good you know, you get a Russian River Pinot Noir or Chardonnay for ten bucks, you know making you jump up another five bucks wage, you know, they have to give you incentive. Something that you probably can't get elsewhere and that's what this kind of is. It's a little Santa Rita Hills is in Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara is hundred miles north of Los Angeles. It's in you know, it's you can be under degrees in Los Angeles in the summer time. But the part where the The Vineyards are jets out. I could strangle kind of into the ocean. So there is water to the north of South in the west. So the cool breezes make this area from for the most part off in many cases cooler than Northern California all the grooming regions up there. And this is Santa Rita Hills. The hills are black the cold air. So it keeps it's a great place and plus the the soil is just so fascinated estimated shock, which is kind of like what you get in Champagne region. So, it's Catholic it's correct. At the school European stuff so oil it's got this cold long cool growing region. It's a great place to be in the wire and off a senator. I don't know if you you're up on all the trendy wines which see smoke which is like, you know, you gotta get a list against you smoke that's from Santa Rita Hills, you know, it's not that big a reason the page where that came from where within a couple of Miles rather grateful. This one came from, you know, the a custom line producer made it for Trader Joe's it's not like this is probably off its, you know, it's a really expensive wine that was left over. They got it. Someone bought grapes and made this wind but it's from a really good pinot noir growing region, but it's 4 a.m. To or alcohol which is a little stiff for Pinot Noir. So we're going to have more body. If you're in the class of Pinot Noir, you know, you might not be all that crazy about it. But if you're don't mind a glass of yummy every so often in this might be your boss know. It's not that much that there has been no hassle Petite Sirah added to it a couple other things but not that there's anything wrong with that. This one's got somebody to it. It's got a little bit of dead. It's a little heavier in the pallet put still continue are not class have been an alarm but it still tastes great. I don't think it slipped because I'm talking about I got glasses. I had I've got no self-control. It feels good on your palate. It's got its got the flavors. It's got some like little sharper image biases and Scott Scott Tana. The channels are sweet, but they're they're yeah, I'm really inexpensive wine nowadays tannins are kind of missing in action. They take them out you know it off. Easier to Angel I'm at this is 2019. If you got you don't deal with the channel until they reduce them as much as they can but here they're there but they don't buy it or they don't do anything other than just let you know. They're they're home. It's kind of nice to see you know, yeah, it's five bucks more than their typical lies. And yeah, it's not classic. You know, it's a little heavier. It's a little more a little little little more vulgar on your pal, but it's not over the top taste great interesting mean. How often do you get a Santa Rita Hills Pinot Noir 2019 little young. There are some $50 119 is out there, but they usually a little bit older. So what happened to get on Santa Rita Hills Pinot Noir for 1499 that's interesting. And this one's got interested got personality the classic no taste good. Yeah off. And so there we are. We're going to o n that's good for Thanksgiving too. So I will be doing that kind of stuff and I do next one adios and keep a cheap, bye-bye.

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# 1495 - Q&A: How to host Pay-to-Play Fortnite parties?

Side Hustle School

06:23 min | 4 months ago

# 1495 - Q&A: How to host Pay-to-Play Fortnite parties?

"Over the past year businesses have had to be super flexible. Doing all kinds of things working remotely pivoting their business models for long term survival making all kinds of changes. Well if you are in charge of hiring for your business or if you're looking to hire somebody these pivots have made your job even more challenging but thankfully there's one place you can count on to make hiring easier now be ziprecruiter dot com slash site. Us all it's no wonder that four out of five employers who post on ziprecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Right now you can try ziprecruiter for free at ziprecruiter dot com slash site also once again ziprecruiter dot com slash side-hustle. Let's get together and play fortnite or minecraft or overwatch or whatever your choice of online game. Is you know flex long ago. Long ago galaxy far far away my friends used to come over to play halo. This was the original halo and the original. Xbox i did in fact get the original xbox day it came out i i'm trying to think of what was now but whatever it was it was a long time ago. Two thousand. i believe something like that anyway. My friends bring. Tv's we would hook up four consoles with sixteen players from time to time when you did an extra controller so we might go to walmart and buy the controller and perhaps return it the next day i cannot tell lie i did in fact do that twenty years ago. Hopefully walmart isn't upset now. These days of course. Millions of people do this online not buying return controllers to walmart but play games online at any given moment of the day in person experiences however very different. I'm still have fond memories of them all these years later as you can tell so our listeners. Today are young. listener is taking up the mantle. He wants to host pay to play fortnite parties in his basement. Technology has evolved a great deal in all these years and maybe his friends don't have to bring over their tv's however it works. Let's see how we can help him up. Quick shout out to our sponsor and then we'll hear from audie a credit card on afraid to look at to see what the balance is. Well listen if you have been avoiding your debt. It's time to face it to confront it and upstart can help you do that. Help you face it confronted and finally pay it off. They'll find smarter rates with trusted partners. They assess a lot more than just your credit score and you can get approved the same day find out. How upstart can lower your monthly payments. When you go to upstart dot com slash hustle that is upstart dot com slash hustle. Don't forget to use your l. Loan amounts will be determined based on your credit income and certain other information provided in your application go to upstart dot com slash hustle. figures deli. Appearance told me. I should listen to side hustles at the always. Been interested in making some money being a student on. Wanted to see what you thought of my job. I'd like to invite people over in church for four nine party. I have pretty good broadband. I can sell them. Snacks and energy drinks that get from costco. I'm also working on setting up a socially distance area in my basement over the more people have the vaccine soon. So that won't be a problem. How much do you think. I should charge for these parties also. Do you play portland. Thanks potty what's up man. Thank you so much for calling in so-called to know that you're out there and i think you've done a better job than me because twenty years ago. I was just playing games. I actually did start selling on ebay. A certain point but i never monetize my love of gaming so i do love the idea of raising the standard of game parties adding in some professionalization and of course getting paid for your efforts so what might help ought to get off to a good start. I think what he needs to do is create demand. Okay so rather than say something like well. Here's the price the price range. Maybe it's ten dollars you know. Probably five to twenty dollars is the price range but rather than just focus on that. He needs to get people committed so that it's a desirable experience week in and week out. This is something that people want to come to right. Because you can't just sit in your own basement play games online and maybe during the pandemic you still need to do that depending on your location and situation but once it safe wouldn't it be so much cooler to hang out with like minded people and have those snacks and play all in the same room. So i would say you know. Tell everybody the first one is free and give them give them free. Energy drinks don't charge for them. Give them free at. I invite people who are popular gamers or connectors with a wide circle. Post photos afterwards tag. Some people you'd like to attend next week's and then speaking of that that word professionalization i used earlier. Make it a regular thing like build some structure into it. Call it ottis gaming. Den that host events every friday night and every sunday afternoon. Whatever the time is whatever named choose. Make business cards or flyers like. I was thinking about that before. I recorded the answer i was like. Does that make sound even older than i already am like saying. Make business cards and maybe it does. But i think it's also a little clever could be. Who makes a business card for a gaming party that you're hosting at your house especially in this digital age. It's just something that kind of helps you stand out. Maybe it's not that points to think about how you can make this desirable experience So that people want to come once you have the demand problem solved then from there. It's easy you can charge whatever. That number is ten dollars. Let's say maybe you can sell the energy drinks or whatever else but all is going to come from demand so start with that. I of course let us know what happens semi or something tag me. I'd love to see it. But when i don't play for myself i've tried it but i think these days i mostly like single player games. So i'm playing playstation. Four games like persona five and charted That's what i've been playing but thank you for asking listeners. If you have a question come to school dot com slash questions. We will feature them throughout the year along with updates mother listeners audie has they launched their projects. Thank you so much for listening my name. Is chris gil about this. Is school bus from the onward projects.

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Monday Morning Podcast 8-3-20

Monday Morning Podcast

1:14:56 hr | 11 months ago

Monday Morning Podcast 8-3-20

"Hey what's going on its bill burr and it's time for the Monday morning podcast for Monday August third. Two Thousand and twenty what's going on? Now. How are. You. Feel in mellow men. You know something I got to fuck into song in my head. Anytime. I watched the Houston Rockets and I see James Harden. Every time I see him all I think is me and Mrs Jones. We gotTA. Thing. Go and all. That dude looks just like Billy Paul. And I know it's wrong. Every time I see. I mean I, know much hoop it. All thinking. Jo. Jody Mrs Jones. What is that song about? Is it about the obvious? His the dude fucking around. You know having an affair or As someone suggested on the Internet he's talking about getting high. was though shed is like two meetings. Mrs Jones. Jones. We're going to meet the same time you know. Tomorrow. Even, though we know it's wrong, right? Anyway. I gotta be honest I actually really been enjoying the NBA Games with the virtual crowd. You know. I think it's all right. The NBA was like notorious for constantly cutting to famous people sitting on the side of the fucking. In the crowd let cook gives a fuck. You know holy shed. It's it's the guy from the Phantom. Phantom of the opera look at him, he doesn't like that call. A bunch of hockey but somehow I ended up missing I, missed all of it and the Bruins lost to the fly. And some sent me a fucking email from philly because what else would they be doing other than celebrating a fucking hockey win in August. fucking Douche even brought up the eagles. It's just like, why would you do that to a patriots fan? We won six. You know I don't understand bringing. Bringing up the fucking eagles because you one the last one we beat you that you went one in one with us. You fucking QB puked in the fuck and huddle on the final day of Dr. Great you finally WanNa. fucking. Super Bowl. You first title and sixty years. All right I mean I guess if you WanNa Talk Shit about it. I actually literally have to remember that loss. That's how many fucking fucking titles we want. IMPO, this is a big thing. Well, how long will before the Patriots won another? What's going to happen I? Will the Patriots won another super bowl or the fucking flyers And they have a fifty year drought. All right. So was that was that like the playoff game? Bruins, flyers, overreaction B.'s endanger earning low seed from round robin. Yup who added I've? Immediately go to the playoffs here. Round Robin Flyers beat Bruins NHL. Round. Robin. Game. Okay. Flyers stay hot. They stayed hot. Okay. We'll state hot from what this was like the first game back talking about the exhibition. Away their last few wins at. All that much you're not Philadelphia. Remain on a roll the flyers beat the Bruins four to one in the first NHL returned to play round robin game on. Sunday. Heading into the pandemic pause the flyers saw game winning streak and against the Bruins. Being that the flyers one on Sunday and also their exhibition. Against the penguins, this team has been on quite an upper trend Jesus because I mean, that's a bit of a stretch when you say. If you fucked one eight games, four months ago it hit a four month layoff diabetes guys just keep rolling along the last two days they didn't play. All right. I guess that's where the Talkin Shit I have. No fucking idea. I don't even know what's going I. Mean You really going to count this. You're going to count this as a fucking Stanley Cup win. If you win, this is when the Redskins won that super bowl the early eighties. When like some of their winds would like. SCAB players and shit. I don't I do know this is if there is a way to fuck it up. And give somebody an unfair advantage. The NHL will figure out how to do it. So I have no idea how the whole round robin thing wins only knows we're one game back. In the flyers, the Bruins and evidently there on one hell of a one game role. Well Good luck to you in the flyers Sir I don't give a shit. I actually liked the flyers. Dove. I can actually remember. When the Bruins, one of them when their last cup you know but said fucking Song Joe. Barney. Things. Have you ever seen the Flyers Win The cup? Evie ever seen the flyers win the Cup you have. You must be crying 'cause you know you close to die in. Have you ever seen the flyers win the Cup I mean Jesus Christ. Talking, Shit you. It's time you one Gerald Ford was it office? The Big University of Michigan Staff. So there you go congratulations to them. The Celtics lost, we lost to the Milwaukee Bucks or looking great. There are a number one seed in the east. And we're wearing these uniforms fuck. It does. It said cream city on it a cream colored jersey. And it said cream city I'm like what the fuck is cream city Milwaukee's one of my favorite cities. I. been they're resilient times. I, love it more and more every single time and I love when people say, where would you live I said Milwaukee there was looking to be like I'm fucking around, which is my great the secret still not out. All right Milwaukee Cream city. I. Looked at up. And it has to do with the fact that Laverne Shirley. Got So. Much Dick during that. Cut Kick Cream city. It's because of the the brick. I guess that cream colored brick. Cream city is a cream or light yellow colored brick made from clay found around. Milwaukee Wisconsin in the The men no. menominee river valley. It's so weird how we went in there and just. Committed genocide. Americans just completely wipe them out and then just in the named Shit after all of them. On? The Western Bank of Lake Michigan. These bricks. One of the most common building materials used in Milwaukee during the mid and late nineteenth century giving the city the nickname cream city. Bricks. The name cream city bricks. Characteristics, cream city bricks are made from a red clay containing elevated amounts of lime in sulphur. This clay is common in regions of Wisconsin especially near Milwaukee when the bricks fired, they become creamy yellow color. You know something Dean del. Rey keeps showing me this shit he goes on instagram. Following a this cheap houses. Account. In. So many of them are like in the mid. West. And I will tell you something right now there is nothing more scary than a super old home in the Midwest. Every single one of them looks like fucking Ed Geene is going to be coming down the GODDAMN stairs. They're absolutely terrifying. Those. Old Houses with the fucking would in all because they're always empty. You know in the middle of and no one you like Jesus, Christ. How many crimes against humanity of happened in the fucking house? I saw one. In the middle of Kansas is a school for sale an entire fucking public school. You know big fuck and bric brick ask. Building. Enough to hold all those baby boomer kids way back in the day in all the land they want twenty-five grandfathered. South Texas. Some buddies of mine that make movies I'm like you fucking by this thing. You'll have a location for the rest of your career. This fucking school could be a God damn office building it could be not house it could be a school. A precinct address it up anything you wanted to be in just fucking become the Tyler Perry of the middle of fucking nowhere in Kansas. None of them bit on it. You know I can only imagine the fucking problems that are in there, but you got to see the picture this. They still have the old fuck and desks in there when I say old fuck fucking old like little house on the prairie old maybe that that far back. But like desk kids probably used to dive under when they would take like. They would do those practice. The Russians are coming to bomb. US. Anyway, so milwaukee known as cream city because of the cream city brick who the, fuck? No. Anyway. So I was last night. My wife was watching this this frigate show about a serial killer. And I WANNA. Watch this right before I go to bed. She's like, no I. Just want to say it's like really interesting. Came in the middle of it was about the Golden State. Warrior. The Golden State Killer. That guy you know where you just fucking raped and killed all these fucking women and then that shit that came along. You know we you send your DNA into the Internet one of the dudes relatives sent it in. And it was a close enough match that was part of the family and the kind of narrowed it down to this guy they waited for him to have like a FRESCA or some shit and they took the can out of the. Out of the GABBAGE. and. WanNa percent match and they fucking caught this guy. Right. So I'm watching this documentary, I gotTa tell you something. There's something wrong. With one of the people in that family I just don't buy anything that say. It seems like that just say in what they're supposed to be saying and I got halfway through that and I'm like, wait a minute. Can and a serial killer? Is that if you got like music and your family, if you have a serial killer in our sudden, you know it skips a generation but then somebody just sits down and can play the fucking piano. You know. Does that happen with like let me see. Let me look that up. Not The fucking stupid thing and my goddamn search engine. Is. Being a serial killer. Genetic. Dumb one who asked this question to all Siri Coz have a genetic predisposed now I mean, is it hereditary? That's what I mean. No no one was dumb enough to ask this guy. To spell it. Her H E r read. RFID. Or. Read. Heredity hereditary. Oh, what is the? Is it be Oh my God. No the just the refuses. Can you Jane's make you kill and they don't mean tight jeans jeans G with G. All right. That's fucking hilarious. I gotta wait for fucking Goddamn Ford Pickup Ed. Warning, this product is not safe to alternative cigarettes was a pickup truck. All right. The killer read his Bible he drank heavily it was the fall night of two, thousand, six so-and-so walked out of his world trailer in southeastern Tennessee carrying his twenty two caliber hunting rifle is a strange wife and his friend and I pulled up. Job of the world shut eight times killing her he used a knife. Cut Her head open. You then chase his wife with the knife and a machete. What in the fuck? Mary told his frightened sheldon come tell your Mama Goodbye. Because his last time they'd ever see him or actresses his wife Manage to slip his grasp at escape. Is this a movie three years later, a county court. Dude have to the whole thing he said he'd snapped. I'm not proud of none of it. He told. He convicted of felony murder. He faced the death penalty to save his life as legal team took an unusual approach never before. They said he had a generic varying on his x chromosome the one that code. All right. Well okay. So you get a chromosome you gotta go. Job Is, free, turn crucial. Jesus fucking Christ I looked up a fucking recipe. I don't even care anymore. Ongoing complaint or anytime you like, Hey, what's it? Good Pot roast recipe you gotta go through fucking three pages of you know growing up pot rose was always one of the. Bills that just brought our family together. This smell of its searing in the kitchen, my mother would always me. And that's how we found out. She was fucking fat guy down the street that she called her her little pot roast. anyways, you're going to need to. fucking sprigs of time you gotta read like a whole Goddamn. Soliloquy is at the fucking word. The whole damn thing they're. Just to get to it. I think you look up how how do you pour cornflakes on milk? Cereal is really a dividing issue in the breakfast world I mean personally, I love it. But there's other people that just cannot handle milk because they're lactose intolerant. Obviously, this really affects cereal lobby. I remember when I was a kid my parents wouldn't buy me tricks. So me and my little sister decided to try to make our own chicks. fucking scroll down ten pages. Take your favorite cereal poured into a bowl ad milk. Anyway, I watched a lot of frigging TV. I didn't see the F one race I knew there was an f one race, but I also knew that Lewis Hamilton was going to win and he did. Now he's like fucking thirty points ahead. I did watch the last lap with that High Pitch Guy was just screaming. Having. Any Stan when He wins every fucking race. He already has like fucking thirty forty point lead. I mean, he's just too Goddamn good the guy won the race on like three tires fucking stroke race. Shits only supposed to happen the God damn. In in in the movies I, actually Kinda Stop Watching F one because I was starting to have this irrational hatred of Lewis Hamilton simply because he was so fucking good. It was winning. He was so good. He was making it boring. Then I'm like, why am I? Why am I bothered by this guy dominating like this? It's like. Well, you know because I turned on to see a race I wanna see racing I want to see passing. I WANNA see excitement. I don't receive. Lewis Hamilton is the first one out of the I tear that we all know that the race is already over even though the seventy laps left. I will tell you a great documentary. You GotTa Watch. You GotTa Watch the Robert Foster documentary. Legendary. Record producer Lou just has like this gift. Where he can you know here a make a hit and all of that. But I'm GonNa tell you something that. You Watch. This documentary. This dude is the closest thing to like if like Ron Burgundy was was a real person. I mean the guy's fucking ego is like. I don't even know where to begin the stories that he told about himself. None of them had a left turn every one of them was I. had to do this and I didn't have enough time. And I fuck crushed it. He's like when I was a kid, my mother played in the piano immediately said that's an e and she was like what and I was like that's an e. And she was like, Oh, my God he has perfect pitch. He was telling these stories about himself. Then he told this weird story I like fucking. He had like four or five sisters and his mother. Every morning would feed them like soggy fucking cornflakes and make him bacon and eggs with toast every morning you're like Oh. There it is. The little prince, all the other ones were like scrubbing the floor toothbrushes and then no point was he sort of? fucked up shoes. They're playing favorites like that. The best part is all the people around him. who had just sitting there talking about how fucking amazing he? You know none of them questioning the guy's ego this fucking poor woman I don't know what he had on her but she's just like you know it's about time he did Broadway. She's literally pointing to a fake watching her wrist. He's going like fucking I don't know I can't even get it was like And then Barbra streisand told me she wanted an album that was all synthesizes no drums no base no French horn bassoon. And I gotTa tell you. I killed it. Take This guy goes like he's the greatest keyboard player I've ever heard. An I've played with Herbie. He's talking Herbie Hancock right and then they cut the David Foster and he's working with Chicago. And he literally takes the horn section out of Chicago Deeb. All's the fucking band. He's better than Herbie. Hancock and then you watch him Piazza Tara Singh and one of the songs I am a man who will fight fool year round. Like. That's better than bow about pets the fuck Outta here. We coakley with Miles Davis. fucking guys right in I will always love you. anyways check it out. If you get Chits, check it out I mean it is amazing what the guys done but Jesus Christ what a fucking Egos that guy And then. fucking kids come on and evidently this guy was like one of the worst fathers ever as far as just like kids a even his kids were sticking up for him maybe it's true. Yeah I was bored and then he left like six seven months later but you know he's still a great dad he did the best he could. It's really bizarre. All you need to do is just see the picture that that is promoting the documentary. It's him with like seventy two Oscars. I mean, sorry what did what he calls fucking? One's Grammy's. He's just sitting there next to him like. I'm this fucking good. I got a great idea for Promo everybody. How about I just sit here with all my trophies. But evidently, he wants an Oscar because he wants to be an IGA. That's another thing. He lists his trophies. And goes and I still fill my trophy cases a little light hall I mean it's just like, Gee why don't you just tell people that is time for the gun show Anyway. I think the only reason why Chicago didn't get more shit for the songs that they did in the eighties was because Phil Collins was doing all that other stuff Phil Collins for some reason became like the BG's there's always one band that just a fucking pouting. You know I don't know who is this decade or last decade I. Remember two decades ago it was like nickelback. And the decade before that who took the pounding. One of those rap metal pants probably. I get no idea. There's always somebody I don't know solar sudden everybody was buying their albums than out of nowhere they just get a ton of Shit. So in the eighties, it was like, Phil Collins Maybe Milli Vanilli. The seventy s why can't can't say that Saint in the ninety s? It's the decade after when people then look back. Going like came in. It bans fucking lame. It's like, Oh, the one that we all listen to. Now, we're all trying to walk away from the style man. Sorry I have no idea what the talking about here. It's twenty two minutes in maybe it's maybe it's time. To do a little bit of fucking reads here people I'm actually, I'm trying to put together A. A. fucking. Stand up tour here. At some point I also have to go out and I got to earn some fucking money you know. Got A house to pay for I'm trying to figure out how I can do it. Like the show has to down where nobody at the show. Gets Gets Kovic obviously. So that's the part that we're working on Oh. It's easy to protect the person on stage. You know, but it's the people in the crowd they're. Like how do you work if you get one of these stubborn fucking people that refuses to wear fucking mask? or the ones that walk around wearing a mask and have it underneath their knows what he do with that person. I don't know but the mass shameless get crazy. I saw this one this video on instagram with these two what sounded like young people were just yelling at this fucking look the woman the layer retired which old white lady with white hair and shit just yelling and it's like we fucking leave her alone she's somebody's grand. Parent you know what I mean. She hasn't she's GonNa fucking die from it and they just hounding her screaming at us and she comes over and she fucking coughs on them, which is inevitable. It's like how much shit can you give you waitress before you know she's going to spit in your fucking t? You gotta go easy the fucking sitting there yelling at them. Then when somebody cops call the police, that's it call the police and then they both got fucking charged with being doses. They put them in the same Goddamn self. Anyway. What else I'm sorry I'm GonNa fucked up mood because I saw yet another thing happened to a comedian where it's just like. It's accusations and then people just like sign off on it before the person can even defend themselves now I, mean, you're just sitting there going like. Were you there. Aren't you like me like I have no idea if this is true. If this happened I don't know if it didn't happen. I. Just know there's some people saying something happened. And then my favorite, my favorite fucking thing. Is the bitter ask comic. You know what? I mean who uses That situation as an excuse to air their personal feelings about that comedians act I mean how fuck low can you go? Jesus Christ the fuck it somebody's land in the side of the fuck and row for all you know could be innocent and you take the time to be like you know it. It's always like you know thank you can't believe this fucking guide Blah Blah Blah Blah, the shit they just been accused about, and then there's some sort of criticism about the act. I thought is big as crime was that he was called the comedian just like wow. Wow. What kind of fucking person you? Kind of fucking person. Are you that you take a fucking that? US. You know people are trying to suggest that a sexual assault happened here. And you're going to use that platform. So you can get out your fucking bitterness about where you're fucking career is unbelievable. fucking believable. So. This person actually made a video. And in the video. You know the part that I love is the fucking sitting there saying how the people around him were advising him to not say anything just let the news cycle pass. It's just like. I understand why the accused person can't defend themselves. It's it's fucking nuts and I don't get how all of these people are signing off like yeah this makes sense. This seems like the right solution. For this so I'm actually You know happy the person ignored it actually made a video and hopefully people will start doing again in due process. Will Return. And hopefully, this time due process will actually work for victims if they were actually victims. I mean, isn't that the logical way you should be looking at this rather than just being like somebody said something happened. All right that's it. That means it happened. Hey I'd like to defend myself now you shut the fuck up. All I need to hear is an accusation. I don't need any fucking evidence whatsoever. Blows my fucking my I understand regular fucking people. They're board right now they're in the middle of fucking pandemic. So yeah. Throw someone of the lines for my fucking entertainment but to see fellow comedians jumping on this shit. You WanNa be like Oh so evidently you were there You know or did some I don't know what fuck it evidence. You have the make sure that fact but what it really comes down to then fuck is it always comes down to they then they don't like him as a comedian. Jesus what a complete fucking piece of Shit Person. That you would do that to somebody up not saying whether the person accused is innocent or guilty because I have no fucking idea. That's why you have trial. All right. Let's do a little bit of reads here. Let's do some reads. Let's do some reads. He likes everybody. Alex. All right. Not being able to sleep because of today's politics, your love life and all the other drama. Mentioned shitty sleeping conditions on the road you've had to deal with Oh Jesus Christ. On the road I've had beds I'd been afraid to climb into and I just you just do it. You gotTa make. Your out. He's got to get your DNA on it. You know I'll tell you bad ones when I used to stay in those fucking motels with the doors opened up out into the parking lot every time a car would pull up I'd see the headlights underneath the fuck and Underneath the Goddamn door and you just go on like just one good. fucking kick. 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Do a really good long stretch. I get totally relaxed. And then I go in the drum room and I just started playing plays slow is poss- not as possible just like really slow in just slowly warm up. My my hands, my feet legs in the whole thing. And then when I go to do the good times bad times thing I just warm up super fucking slow. Just gradually increase it. and. I don't have any goal. Other than I'm going to practice this lick really slow. And then I'm going to ramp it up to where it's comfortable. And then pushed myself a little bit and that could be a little bit further than what I did. Yesterday or could be a little bit slower. I don't care I'm just GonNa Fuck and do this. So I've been doing that. And when I play, it's like I'm going to be really relaxed. So there's like these two bars that I play when you come out of the solo before he plays that Lick fucking ten times in a row back to back. Towards the end of the song. And what I say to myself in those two bars is I just say as I'm coming up to it. Is I say I just tell myself to relax. And who gives a shit? You know. If I pull it off, just make sure you get that first one and what's been happening is is I'm actually. Staying relaxed, and then when I get that first one and I come into it. Relaxed in and I get that I one off I just sort of lock into it and now all of a sudden. You know the speed is coming. And I've been able to play it. Last night I got the sixteenth note triplet three times in a row at ninety BPM in the song is ninety five Sa-. Closest I've ever gotten I can't play ten times but I did play the ten times in a row lick. At eighty BPM's comfortably in I almost played it at eighty five before it's SORTA crapped out. So now I'm just like great. So then I went back down to like seventy five. And I just sort of played the whole song jumped around the Song ailing the sheet music and just sort of locked at in that that just feels relaxed. In Regular and then I ran back up to eighty, which was ways easier at that point and I just of played that, and then I stopped. And? If just That's been working for me. Because I've I think pretty much everything from parroted to everything I never fully got up to speed because I am really fucking impatient. And I sit down scatter brained and this like fifty fucking things I wanNA learn how to do. So I do all fifty things for like eighteen seconds each. And and nothing really gets better and it all gets fucking. It's all sloppy. Then it sounds like shit. So I've had to figure that out about my brain, and now when I sit down I, have to have my brain like totally clear and I really have to just be a note with just working on this which just working on this and then I apply a bunch of Shit. that. I learned from David Lich. Back in the day when we could actually go get a fucking lesson, you know face to face. Is I've just I just applied all of this stuff as far as like relaxing how I'm sitting. And I don't know I. Think if you go beyond that if you have a good teacher, if you really sit there and figure out how your brain works. And what you're doing to contribute to not being successful. Came in last night. I was like flying. fucking believe I did all his the fastest I ever played that. So. That's that's GONNA. Be My new my new approach. When I'm downstairs, I was getting nervous when I start talking about drums for too fucking long that people can be like. All right but we get it. We don't all fucking play drums alright. STAMPS DOT COM everybody as we slowly adjust to the new normal if this, how it's GonNa be forever, we still need to be smart about how we do business luckily, stamps dot com to make things easier thousands of small business owners have discovered the benefits of stamps dot com in recent months. Yeah. You don't have to go to. 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Just go to stamps dot com click on the mike form at the top of the homepage and type in burpee you are that stamps dot com enter Bir are right. Now. It's time. Now it's time to say that I read all the ones I guess I did. I guess I. Did I got to get into hockey I'm actually site that Philly fan wrote in that should. Get me going here. Guest in own home. All right. Here we go. Hey, Bill I hear you on the wife feeling like you're a guest in your own home I'm an airline pilot and have been home way more than ever which I took as a good thing. But apparently, I'm scrolling up her in the kids routine. I just keep biting my tongue thinking what the routine would be like if someone wasn't working to for all this shit. rant over loved the podcast stand up family thanks and go fuck yourself. Yeah. I mean you got. You need to understand her and she needs to understand you because like I always see like with professional. Sports, athletes, professional athletes. They provide an amazing obviously lifestyle for everybody to be living. But then like they're not home a lot. So what happens is everybody gets into this fuck and groove. That doesn't involve you, and then all of a sudden you come home. And then you do disrupt it so. Yeah. So there's that weird thing that she is right that you are disrupting the routine but a you know it would be nice if she also acknowledged that you're paying the routine. But that's not how it works. I've found that when you when you actually make a good point with the woman that. Means that you just somehow through something in their face rather than you brought up a point to defend your own position. We don't need to throw it in my face. I. Didn't throw anything I just said it. Trying to give you a little bit of perspective it sounds to me like you on some level. Think what I just made was a great point. And you can't really refute it. So now what you're going to do is act like I was. Out By bringing up a great point. To, shine a light on my position is somehow being rude to you my supposed to just sit here and be a fucking punching bag. That is fucking amazing that you're A fucking airline pilots Steve Probably have three hundred people's lives in the palm of your hand for the better part of anywhere from three to six hours, and you have to handle that you have to fly instrument every fucking flight right anything above are my God already forget anything above eighteen thousand feet. I think you automatically fly instrument. But I'm back into flying baby bump. Flying twice a week and I wish I was flying three times a week. Offer -tations are getting really really good. Last time I flew. I was really working on that last part of it where I don't bring the nose up. You know make my RPM's go up and I lose airspeed stay level. And just wait to do that that flare. Once I get that down once they get debt down in the last little part just leveling out in pulling power right before we settled down to the ground. Did a great flight went out to Camarillo airport. The last time and I used this four flight APP that I literally sat down and I watched. This guy give like an hour and seven minute. Instructional thing on and now I get it. And one of my favorite things about the APP is they actually have a three. D.. Picture. Of whatever airports if you're not familiar with the airport, you can actually look and get a three D. visual of what the approach is. GonNa look like. You, combine that with the map of the airport and then you you take an airport that you were totally unfamiliar with. I would never say that I'm familiar now because I hadn't gone to it before or hang onto it in a while but you just so much. You have this picture in your head. You got all the taxiways and everything you know. The runways. fucking layout. and. I actually feel confident now because that's one of the ones that's really busy a lot and I would get anxiety when I come in there because you WanNa talk quickly, you don't WanNa step on anybody and you don't want to have to have the tower repeat anything to you. So, what I would normally do is just transition which I would just asked to fly through their airspace, which is the easiest thing. But. This pastime actually did some bad work at the North Pat. Whatever and. Had A great time although I got a little frustrated stuff when I'm really learning as it's just like drumming. Is that you know I've really been like holding on too tight with the controls. As you want to be like looser. You are the more information you can take in as far as like what the helicopters telling you most importantly, which way the winds coming from. And I started to do that last time because I had a couple. You know I came back who? Just like the first time I sold where I go into the down wind and all of a sudden the fucking low RPM Horn would come on and I. Think. Oh. My God I'm having a fucking engine failure was just because I was gripping the throttle tightly and I was overriding the governor. And I did that a couple of times I really have to think about it but like all my instructors voice you going to be like with your feet on the pedals to have all your weight like on your heels like super light and when you're pushing down either your lefty right foot, the other foot is not even touching. The Barely. Touching I should say. The other paddle and I don't know like you just. WanNa like. Because I don't know what it is like. I don't know the more nervous. You either less comfortable. You are more rusty are just tighter you holding onto that thing and then exactly what you don't want to do. Which is fight? The thing ends up fucking happening in sustain thing it's like playing some drum like that super fucking fast Hezekiah tense up it just all goes to shit so. I don't know like I said, I'm flying a couple times a week I'd like to fly three three would be fucking huge for me as far as. Know because there's always ends up being like a three four day layoff as opposed to like if I flew every other day, how good I could get would be awesome. So But I also have responsibilities here at home so we'll figure it out anyway I'm babbling now babbling on. All right, let's read the next one here. All right aging out. Okay. Sorry guest in own home. A Bill I hear you on the wife on a sorry. One OKAY AGING OUT OF MOTO G P Heli Hey hey there billie burke kes- instead of my cats love your stuff. Yada Yada what makes Rossi's age impressive is okay. So Valentino Rossi is like forty one years old and he's still Competing at. The highest level in motorcycle racing in the world and he gets on the podium still like wants to season or so So I was like well, you know it is the machine all that. What is What is it about his age? Why is it so hard to keep riding at his age? Does your body break down. Taking all those obviously fallen off the bike and shit. So anyways, the person says a the usual stuff that a lot of this is what makes it impressive the usual stuff that a lot of athletes go through. That, build up over the years senses not being as sharp as they used to be i. didn't think of that getting tired of the travel in the media circus but also be since he started writing in the lower classes in nineteen ninety six. Incredible. There have been endless changes to the rules regarding tires, electronics, engine sizes, and tracks coming and going from the calendar. Yeah. That's like a Bella check thing like how you're successful for that long because usually when a couple super bowls all the other coaches breakdown what you're doing and totally steal what it is that works. Indianapolis. Colts. See in Modo GP right now, there's an insane amount of young talent coming through the lower ranks. Fabio that's quash. Aurora was nineteen. When he entered the top class, he won the junior world championship, the class below Moto to emoto. Twice in a row at age thirteen, that'd be fucking cool. The watch can you watch that anyway to see year old kids future stars fucking ripping it up. You want at age thirteen and fourteen Marc Marquez was one of the youngest world champions ever in two thousand, thirteen at the age of twenty. He won the motogp. Thing. It isn't that writing at his age is impressive. The top I love man TT writers are thirty, forty, forty, eight, and fifty one and that shit is crazy. What's impressive is that he's been able to adapt to the changes in bike's tyres riding styles over the years while staying competitive with the younger guys. Cheers. Come to Japan some time and go fuck yourself. I. Love to go to Japan and one of my favorite writers already forget his name because I'm new to the sport is a great Japanese writer in motor GP who had incredible race I think the first one. It's always good to see new blood. Coming up in the ranks yet Japan is definitely definitely on the list. I gotTa make that happen obviously when it's when we go back to the old normal. Anyway. All right. Guys who won't let you split the check Oh eight. There's a great documentary to out there about. The year mark. Sorry Valentino Rossi switched from Honda to I. Think he went to Yama or Suzuki I think it was Yamaha. So. You know he was he was winning and he was just the shit and he was writing for Honda which is like, Lewis Hi. Hamilton who's to Shit and he's driving Mercedes. So there's a lot of critics of f one who are saying. You know Lewis Hamilton wouldn't be as nearly dominant. If he was driving for somebody else because Mercedes is the best and it's also like well, Lewis Hamilton is also the best. So Mercedes wouldn't be winning at the same clip. You know and I think both Mercedes and Lewis Hamilton would obviously agree to that right well, the the dumb asses at Honda. In early this is funny after I gave shadow to Japan. I'm not saying this still dumb asses, but they made a dumb ass move where I guess Valentino. Rossi was getting too much fucking credit they felt and they said, hey, it's not just the writer. It's also the bike they made some they alluded to something that well, he is driving riding a Honda. So that pissed off Valentino Rossi and he switched to yama and everybody thought he was nuts because I guess Yamaha wherever the fuck switched to wasn't. Winning Shit. And not only did he go over there and made immediately made them a winner? He won the championship the very next year, which from what I can tell is unheard of having what little I know watching F. One And watching it as an amazing driver like Daniel Ricardo you know. Switch from red. Bull team to the foxy with now I figured who is with by he was with Renault last year and this year I think he switched again. And You know it's it's like football where if you like one of the worse things to be the top qb prospect in draft because you're going to go to some shit fuck and team with no offensive line and then people have who knows how good you could have been. If you maybe the third ranked guy and you actually went to a competitive team that had an offensive line with an older quarterback and they worked you win you know and you had a good quarterback coach. You didn't have fucking new QB coach every fucking year. Like happens to a lot of people out of here. So that really is interesting anyways. All right. Guys who won't let you split, the check. What's up bill loved the PODCAST. Okay. One thing that I find extremely annoying is the the guys have to pay convention on dates. I'm in college in the guys I date are in college. So I know that neither of us. Having that much money. Neither one of US had that much money to spare. It seems kind of fucked up to me that being in a relationship is like a money saving tool for women and a huge financial burden for men. Yeah. I would say that I think it was that way back in the day because women weren't allowed to work, and then also once you married a guy like he could fuck and Lord over you when you were like his property. So to. Vote to try and balance it out somehow as you had to go out and go by the SAS MORILLAS Anyway some guys are animate adamant about paying for dates I. Always was even when you're sincerely sincerely offering to split parentheses, not some fake Oh, my God. No, you don't have to do that bullshit. All right. This is like the coolest chick ever. She wants to pay. She's owning up to the fact that chicks shit like that. All right, which then this is what I wish happened in politics. So, they wouldn't be screaming and yelling where you could just be like. Hey. You know. Obama fucking drone bombs some wedding. Kind of blew the oil companies. Okay I can definitely give you that be oh, haven't said that you know this guy trump's a little out of line. You. Then, you could actually maybe have a fucking conversation. So a screaming at some Old Lady, because she's not wearing a fucking mask, he's going to be dead. So leave her alone. anyways, which also puts me in a weird spot because it feels like since they bought me bought my meal now I owe them sex yes. Like prostitution but with food as an Intermediate step. All that considered what do you say to a dude to actually convince him to let you pay for yourself? I don't know what you say because that's a weird thing that's got to be a weird thing for women where a guy insists to pay because then you've got to be sitting there going like, all right what do I have on my hands here? Do I have an old school? Who's going to take his coat off and let me step on it as he walks over a mud puddle whatever the fuck that is. Or? Do I have somebody that's GonNa be Shoving Dick in my face because they paid for my fucking steam spinach here. That's a hell of a thing. That's see. This is why I wish more women wrote in on this fucking podcast. We'll bill maybe if he didn't trash him every ten seconds they've they've fucking listen to this ship. Fair enough. Yeah. Because that's interesting that then you're going to be sitting there being like, okay I'll let you pay for this but. That doesn't mean you know. You can take old. And fucking twenty minutes when we're back in your previous. I I would tell you this at this point The way things are now, I would be terrified as a young. Guy Out there as far as just like. All right. I'll tell you this to all the young guys out there. If you even get a hint of vindictiveness or craziness you gotta you gotTa just fucking Walk Away Like Deniro in he, he just got to stand up and just fucking you just fucking walk. You know I don't know women. I don't know you gotta come up with some sort of fucking It's got to be. So there's to be some sort of well, that doesn't really work if the guy's a monster. I is really no solution because human beings male and female are just inherently fucking flood. I will say to women out young women out there that are dating and all that Shit. You know there's plenty of fucking dough JOE's out there. were. You could learn some fucking grappling Jujitsu. That's my thing. I really think every fucking woman on a should learn how to do that Shit. Then they probably abuse that power to but. I'm just saying like you could fuck in. In some way is gonNA sexually assault you they gotta get in close. All. Right. So if you're good at fighting on your back and you can put that person in an arm bar and you, there's no ref to tap out you fucking blow out. Zelba that's it. Nothing kills a hard on like a broken fucking. Or just put him in a triangle. I mean I gotTa tell you I would think. No matter how much a guy outweighed you once you I mean I. I shouldn't say that I should ask Rogan this but like at what level belt. Okay does weight class matter if the other person has no grappling skills whatsoever has no idea like Oh fuck they just did that which means in another half a second I'm going to be in a triangle or an arm bar unless I do this. I just think that would put you like a tremendous tremendous fucking advantage. That's something I really WanNa do With my kids? I. Hope My. Hope that you know these fucking. Thing and soon, and he could just teach kids how to you know defend themselves. against. psychos in life. And then you just teach Mike never abused his power and all that shit which I think is part of the DOJ doges responsibility down there but I would definitely say that gay. Choke. People out. Just fucking walk around choking people out. It's another thing to what if you knew your kid was a psycho d then fucking let them learn how to do. That can't have some Cobra Kai Kit. Jesus fucking quagmire all right father-in-law offers car. Dear Billy's are US congrats on baby number two. Thank you. He is amazing. By the way he is amazing and watching my daughter interact with them. It's just one of the coolest things ever. She's head over heels for it's so awesome. anyways I'm thirty years old and just married the woman of my dreams. Congratulations she loves the outdoors. Draw a drop, dead, ten and his. In residency to become a surgeon to boot. To you fucking hit the lottery I work in the nonprofit sector in in loved it but was unfortunate laid off due to cove it. Sorry to hear that I haven't owned a car for ages because I live in A. P and W city. With great public transportation. What is a Peon W city? What in the fuck is that mean that like I'm supposed to know that P N W. meaning. Says W serial killers. Also Pacific northwest. That's hilarious that I just looked up and W and immediately said, fucking. Syra killers. All right. Pacific. Northwest city with great public transportation. and. Protected bike lanes don't worry I'm a biker stops at stop signs and I don't wear that silly spandex Shit Dude I love a bike lane i. wish they actually had him here in La instead of spray painting bicycles. On the street. There's your bike lane. New York City has some great bike lanes while you're on the other side of parked cars. fucking. Amazing. Jersey barriers and all of that Shit anyways my new father-in-law reached out and has offered his two thousand two lexus with one hundred, thirty, thousand miles on it for just below Kelley. Blue Book, value. It's a good deal but I worry he might hold it over my head. In some strange way. We haven't always gotten along for a few reasons. He's an asshole he talks down to my wife. He believes if you aren't furthering science, you're not were really working. Do I buy it fuck? No. Thanks I hope the family is doing well, no fuck this guy what you're saying about this guy. He's an asshole. He talks down to my wife. Now Fuck this guy. For All you know this this type of guy what you're saying about him is true. There's something wrong with the car. And I had a buddy remember longtime ago way back in the fucking day. A buddy of mine when I was a kid. He bought a BMW. Offer doctor and we were kids man when I say kids, we will still. You. Know Teens early twenty twenty S, and he sold it to my buddy. Driving home, I saw this blue smoke coming out the couple of times out of the back and I'll say our burning a little oil whatever And then all of a sudden like it just started sitting weird in the back. And finally buddy vise knew about cars he put it up on the fucking the lift their. And they saw it had been in a major fuck an accident in the frame it bent in this guy didn't disclose any of that. So the fact that this guy is a scientist. And you know in Defensive Feminine this time if you aren't furthering science as far as working on a cure cove it. I mean, it's probably the most important work right now as far as the world economy goes, but I I would not do that. I wouldn't do it. If you know if you've got money to buy a used car, I would buy something else somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah. That's definitely worried. fucked it. You don't you don't want that guy. Getting in any call you gotta you gotTa, keep a guy like that at at arm's distance I really believe that the cordial you have to respect that that is the father of the woman that you're gonNA marry in all of this or that you married or whatever See always got to be respectful hello goodbye. Let them in. Alright. Worried about college. Okay. Hey Bill I love the. P and I've watched your Conan. Appearances at least a million times. I'll thank you CONAN's best. I'm a seventeen year old girl and I'll be a junior at the University of Florida. All right. Go gators by the end of twenty twenty go gator she writes. I took a ton of advanced less than classes in high school and now three years ahead. What a seventeen year ago I'll be a junior. She's crushing it at first I thought this was great. The faster I start school the faster I finished right I didn't want to waste my entire you slaving over textbooks, my issues that I've been. So focused on academics that I lost out on a lot of the experiences my friends were having in highschool I didn't go to parties prom homecoming football games or even my graduation ceremony I'll stress that this wasn't because of my parents I'm just insanely introverted and none of these things seemed appealing well, I can relate because I didn't go to most of those things either. Now. I'm basically a socially Awkward Weirdo and I'm worried I'll be. Fifty. Before I even have my first kiss everyone says, college is the best time or their life. So how do I put myself out there so that I can make some friends and maybe even find a special fella. That's adorable. Thanks, and I think it's pretty mean that people are always telling you to go fuck yourself. Look at you. You got a good heart you're motivated. I'll tell you this right. Now you're a catch and a half. So any guys going to be lucky to be with you. So I was totally introverted you just have to like. You got to forgive yourself. That beat yourself up that your introverted that you're shy. So just to start putting yourself out there baby steps. You know what about just baby steps you way out there. In gradually you know open up, you know if you don't speak up in class just say all right. I'm going to answer one question today and I'm going to get over that and I mean, that's how I did it. Now I baby stepped my way into being a comedian I started any opportunity I had. To take a public for any any class I knew that stand up and speak in front of the class I would do it. And Once I made that decision. I started to have. You I allowed myself to be not good at it. I allowed myself to be embarrassed get dry mouth, and all of that show stuff. Once I was just like all this stuff's going to happen in all of this stuff is normal because of the way I'm wired, I just need to move the ball in inch in the direction I wanna go every day right? And once I did that. I grew by leaps and bounds as far as like my confidence. So this is something that is. Is a great thing. That you can work on in it's totally fixable and then also. Just, start going to Florida gator games. You know I heard the SEC might have some games this year just go to the Games. Put. It out there that you want to go to the Games but you need a crew go with you fall in with some people and they here's the thing considering you've been introverted and all that I'm a little worried that you're gonNA fall in. With some you know. Not Worried you know what you're going to. Here's the thing. Just go with your gut when it comes with France. All right. If you feel the people you with are cool and they're good people in your clicking with them continue to hang out with them if they're not don't be afraid to fuck and move on. It's no different than being in a relationship boyfriend girlfriend with somebody you know it's just got to listen to you got. So there you go. So congratulations, you'll be fine. All Right Rambo helicopter. Bill with your knowledge and understanding of helicopters pretty limited. What's your take on helicopter scenes in Rambos in the Rambos? Well, I always loved him on. This is what I'll say about not specifically Rambo. I'll just say in general in movies is. When somebody's getting chased and then they run over and just start they start up a helicopter fucking car and then they just drive away That's the fuck and most hilarious thing especially. If. It's like a turbine engine like a jet engine. Like. There's a whole startup procedure that I've. You can check it out look. A star three fifty startup procedure. And there's a thing when you go to start it up where the engine is heating up and. It gets up to a certain temperature. Mike Seven. Hundred degrees and then you have to back it down or something like that roll down the throttle. For a few seconds before rolling it back up or you could actually burned down the fuck and helicopter you could actually have a fire because of what's going on in the background. So whenever I watch one of these movies in somebody gets in even if you fly what I fly. It's there's a whole startup procedure especially if the fucking engine is. Ice Cold. And You gotta let the belts. You gotTA. Let you roll up the power. They got attention though the clutch light has to come out as a whole start up i. mean you can just you can fucking do it. I guess you could just do it. It's not good for the engine or anything else, and I would be nervous about that but I guess. My option was getting eaten by fucking. ZOMBIES. But even then it takes a little bit for to roll up to fuck and speed. That's my only issue about it, and then also whenever they shoot out the fucking tail rotor and then the person just spends and spends and spends and spends and spends. Any helicopter pilot. CEO Brand? New. The second you start spinning as you roll down. To the detail is what they call it. So then it's basically putting it in neutral. So now, what's keeping the main rotor turning is ship falling rather than the Torque of the engine so Whatever you've roll down a neutral. So neither, one of those, the the tail rotor not working now and the main rotor still spinning, you're not dealing with the the engine turning that anymore. So there's no torque wearing to turn the ship and the opposite direction at the main rotors turning Jesus Christ. So. Yeah. You would roll down. And then with your paddles, what you had left from the well, if they show, it shot it out. So then you don't have that maybe you would I don't know. I've never had my tail rotor shot out. So anyway. Just. You know what? I. Talked Long enough that you ended up learning how what little I know about fucking helicopters I know more than the average person but I don't know shit and that is a great way to go in life just no, you don't know shit because then you'll be open to learn new shit by the way. Mrs Jones was written by a guy named was performed I should say by Billy Paul. And I actually went down a rabbit hole. Listen to that guy I learned about some other singers that I had never heard of, like if you Google Billy Paul. He ends up he talks about the singers that he was influenced by and what's really cool is it's really a lot of female singers because he feels that they did more with their voices which I thought was. Really. Interesting and then he brought up this guy. Shit what the Hell is. Let's see here. Nina Simone Johnny Mathis Sale to style silliness. And there's a Guy Jesse Belvin said one of my favorites. These to call him Mr Easy Jesse Belvin. And this guy helped write earth angel. And unfortunately, he did a show in Arkansas he died when he was seven got into a head on collision in a car and back then you know. Those cars were just you know the engine just went right dea fucking chest. Had A head on collision died unfortunately twenty seven super talented kid. he did a mixed race show. Him and another think African American act in these. Old Racist White Dude showed up yelled a bunch of Shit at the stage which you know was the N. Word and a bunch of other ugly shit and then we're kept pleading with the white kids to get up and leave. and. There's a theory that he had his tires slashed and that's what caused the accident and if that's fucking true man what kind of fucking human being. Could do that to somebody. Like and feel no guilt about it. And at the end of their life, you know if you have any sort of belief in any sort of a high power, not think that you're going fucking directly to hell for that one. fucking brutal. So. I don't know I. gotTa Tell You I. Wish I was better at writing scripts because to me. That's like there's a fucking movie and a half they're. Like What happened like? No, no investigation just I don't know how the fuck did. They figure out all these years later or did people know back then that it was possibly tires were slashed generally been something to possibly look up Jesse Belvin J. E. S. S. e.. L. V.. I. And That's the podcast everybody. Thank you so much for listening So great that sports are back. And I'm hearing this news that they're able to test skin test results quicker I think that that's going to be our way out of it just it's going to be testing. And Eventually. The quicker. You can test people in the more inexpensive. It is the quicker you'll be able to figure out who has it who doesn't in your quarantine I think we're going to get out of this stuff. All right and if that. Don't yell at people who don't aren't wearing fucking mass I understand getting them out of stores I get that at this point and I understand why people are yelling because financially, everybody's fucking hurting at this point. But screaming at them is not GonNa it's not GonNa, help him give me I tried to fuck and make fun of and I never got more negative fucking. Shit in my life. I will say the people who don't think you should be wearing a mask to maybe watch some international sports. You'll see that everybody is wearing masks. And You don't think that it's a conspiracy against your guy which I understand why you would think that because he has been under attack the entire fucking time as all presidents have been since Bill, Clinton you just under attack the entire time you trying to run the country, which is not fucking helping us out. Alright. But anyways, that's it. That's the fucking podcast. Thank you for listening. Go Fuck yourselves. I'll check in on. Yeah on Thursday. 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