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The Chris and Joe Show: Quick Takes from a TNF loss
"Are you troubled by strange hockey trades in the middle of the night do you experience feelings of dread about Nhl Free Agency have you or your family ever seen in your rheinlander scheme if the answer is yes don't wait another minute pick up your mobile device and subscribe to Lighthouse Hockey podcasts from espy nation today are courteous and efficient host and worries lighthouse hockey podcasts for New York islanders fans this was actually having a relatively good performance compared to the ways that they've looked against other competent offenses this season after a game we're going to be giving you are quick takes and our takeaways from the game right after The final play was made our gut reaction the giants defense that was just able to play a little bit a little bit faster a little bit more physical upfront than we saw against the Vikings who they were able to make plays as a whole they were able to be a little bit more consistent I think it was just an overall very good performance in that first half we just need to see those things that they were ability to make plays stop plays the line of scrimmage he made some pretty good tackles and then the one that he had in which she made a pretty clean spin move really missed having their speed on the defense especially going downhill which you know we saw both of them got pressure on Brady Ogle tree with with half because of it and ultimately just be able to move the ball more rack up some more yardage and scores more points if you're out playing them in time of possession big blue view or coming off another difficult loss for the New York giants as they fell to the New England Patriots thirty five to fourteen game in which it was kind of close at Halftime and then everything pretty much full apart from their lack of offensive production second half lack of ability to stop difference level in his performance compared to nate stupar who pretty much playing in replacement of him while he was hurt and you just saw the they just kinda picked on nate stupar and really able to do kind of what they wanted especially on the ground up until the second half this and picking that apart which I think is what we saw in the second half the Patriots made some adjustments they started going back to the IT started to go downhill if you think about it in the sense that the offense was not moving the ball and time of time possession was being dominated by the Patriots in the second because this is this is the Patriots they they're at their best making adjustments at half time figuring out what you do blitz Carter blowing past the tight end getting that strip sack that led to a touchdown so it was good to have both of those guys back and just we've really seen on defense yet this year the giants never really took advantage of mistakes like they did against the Patriots it really is going to be difficult move to make a play on Tom Brady and take him down so overall though just having him back having Lorenzo Carter back there was an agents here in I to kick things off why don't we go right into our first positive and that being it was nice to have Alec Ogle Tree and the Renzo Qarterback yet definitely had the giants the way throughout but there were instances where they looked good they were pretty stout on a significant number of running plays where they're able to sniff things out in the backfield a gash the giants in the first half they didn't let that get anywhere in the second half personally I thought that was good to see and then also the worked on the first half like the interception like the Sachs those things correlate into the second one I think we WANNA be careful stay too much away from the defense for they're playing the second half seemed to come out flat they didn't seem to have a real good feel for what the giants were going to do on defense in the first half and we saw during take advantage of that which was something I don't think obvious more element like additional element to this defense that they weren't as scarce up the middle of the field. Yeah I think we and you're listening to the Chris and Joe Show presented to you by espy nation and adjectives very quickly but before we do that we're going to take a very short commercial break this episode is brought to you by CBS sports HQ very very close at that point and it just so happened they weren't able to get any more stops after that they weren't able to move the ball offensively it's a little bit more and what we're talking about how was more noticeable in the first half was the past Russian the defensive lines shining at times wasn't a completely clean game was not perfect old Behind the line of scrimmage or right athletic scrimmage maybe a little bit yard passer so those are the types of plays that are very very important for forcing an offense into so much of sports TV nowadays full of made up trauma it's a bunch of hot takes from people who believe what they're saying just beating the same topics into the ground but CBS sports which again that led to what the final score was led to the issues that that came out in the rest of this game we're going to take a look at the real sports fans the best news of all it's free I mean free for a week or a month or if you have some special cable package it's totally completely free instead the Patriots made but like that quick little shovel pass almost a pop or I'm not quite sure what you want to call it that we saw we're at home on your apple TV Roku or fire TV it couldn't be easier download the CBS sports APP and watch CBS sports HQ TODAY PODCAST APP in any loss it's very very easy to come out here and talk about all the negative the Patriots offense from putting additional points up on the board there were also some special teams miscues they came out in this game so like we typically to do immediately Carter for the Strip sack in the touchdown there and then again Ogle tree on the blitz up the middle so I think these are all things that are positive signs for the make a strong performance happened in that second half against a legendary coach that's very good at making adjustments like that and acknowledging actionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite since two all the onfield action fantasy sports experts will give you the info you need to make the right calls for your lineup no fake debates no politics just sports for the first thing that needs to be pointed out was the special teams mishap the blocked punt that led to a touchdown a free seven points given to the Patriots and that was specifically because nate stupar was beat very cleanly on a he was gonna change all that it's a network that streams live twenty four seven in their coverage is just focused on the game they bring you the latest news highlights previews and reaction defense play a little bit more aggressively a little bit faster than we saw last week Alex Autry might not be the most perfect linebacker but it's still very apparent the hey I'm Spencer Hall I'm Holly Anderson I'm Ryan Nanny I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your tax in the first half were great had marcus golden just kind of brush Marshall newhouse assigned to get the first one at a really nice speed moved by runs on defense continually he's now a liability on special teams yeah you're the special teams guy I don't know that I've ever seen a all of bad play in sloppy performance just not being in the right position at the right time you can tell a player is not good if what's not working making those changes in readjusting making shore they're back to what they're capable of doing another thing seen it have you ever seen anything like that I don't think I can really think of an example where I've seen that it's just it's just an example wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfair events now they just need to kind of keep them up but also need the offense is help for that that defensive touchdown that they were able to score off of that incredible passer in a situation like that on special teams they can't find a way to be in the right position yeah and just blocking like that getting blown up like that it's just not good another negative that is noticed from this game was Daniel Jones is overall performance three interceptions is is move and sacked by Lorenzo Carter Marcus golden being the one who scored the touchdown that was very promising early in the game because it set the giants up to be yeah and that's something he has seemed to have a tendency to do which is probably because he's a rookie he wants to make the play he's excited four receivers to work open and they're just not working open otherwise on the other hand we've also seen him throwing into coverage a lot since he to look at the tape so first things first that needs to be acknowledged and you might know I am a special teams advocate bull rush move by Brandon bolden who completely pushed him back was not able to get into any position actually blocked brandon and needs to part was pushed back so quickly lives and we're going to highlight a few of them Wanna go into the deep dive like we always do that's when we're going to be a little bit more keenan detailed on specific things after we have the chance worse defense and a significantly worse secondary so he needs to learn what to do when actually facing a competent defense with A. It's a mistake all quarterbacks make on occasion but eventually they learn kind of developed that clock in their head feel the defense and that Riley Debt Dixon was continuing his punt steps and kick the ball right into the back of his head so nate stupar continues to be a liability even when he's not punt get blocked by the protectors head when you say you gotta use your head that is not what coaches I mean it I mean I don't know that I've ever has been on the field he might have the highest rate of throwing into coverage of any quarterback in the NFL that's partly on the John for everybody you don't even log it just sports for real sports fans just open the CBS sports APP and watch anytime from anywhere on your phone because he was playing to very very good secondary's with very very good corners that were good at tracking and falling receivers very very closely so he did not have and I think another thing that goes in line with this the better illustrate the situation is we've seen a lot more than the last two games I performance this season wove able to better dissect that after looking at the tape but one thing that was very noticeable it was just him holding onto the ball way too long all and held the ball and that was when Carter got his strip sack I don't I don't think he ever felt the pressure coming and all to find him in those situations and they can develop that kind of chemistry if you have a run a young quarterback developing quarterback and a young explosive running the defensive coordinator in very very good cornerbacks because if it doesn't look like it's GonNa be there you can't sit there and hold the ball and you also can't force it into a situation there's not really any available check down for him it just seems like whatever running backs in there has not been an option if things are not available axe but that also has a lot to do with the offensive scheme but I think part of this is just going to be the maturation process of Jones just a third and long type of situation that really impressed me was that the giants seemed to learn they didn't make the same kind of a halftime you do see them kind of sitting on those those swing passes back behind the line of scrimmage and then collapsed down on them I would like to see more check down connect quick passing game hitting the running backs as receivers and then they were able to take their shots down the field the patriots definitely his coaches they need to scheme him some more open looks guys like Brady or Pat Mahomes they're never throwing into coverage and yes they're great quarterback line of scrimmage we saw that a lot with saquon Barkley who actually had more yards after the catch than he had total yardage last year or final point this is that actually I think a big part of that will be figuring out how to consistently produce on offense taking advantage of those opportunities on offense options but check down options that actually have a chance of generating positive yards not make the running back have to pick up five yards before eating gets close games and not being the one that is dominated in these situations is just something that this this team needs to figure out yeah sometimes you just gotta learn to throw away lift of play another down you know we have seen him hold the ball and hold the ball and hold the ball and against Washington 'cause Djibril peppers had picked six and then ten points again against Minnesota and then seven points yeah they scored seventeen points week one fourteen points week to then they had the thirty two in week three on offense they only scored
How Do We Balance Fun With Excellence?
"Thank you Bella, appreciate it as always. Welcome back everyone to another edition of the soccer specialist podcast and two day. I am going to cross my fingers I recorded a couple episodes actually last week and turns that had some technical difficulties and neither one who actually turned out just some popping and hissing. So fingers crossed that doesn't happen this time. Okay. In this episode was inspired by a post in a soccer facebook group in which the parents tag me and asked me for my opinion on this particular thought, which was that he was saying a lot of posts in there about topics like weight training and Yoga. Different cleats to buy and on and on, and he asked about what about the fact that the game is supposed to be fun and then if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong and he asked me to weigh in on that. For some reason the first in the popped into my head was bacon cheeseburgers. But I don't think that really answered his question. So I have said in the past number one is fun right the game has to be a has to be fun how important that is one of the first podcasts I ever did actually you can go back and check it out. It's one of the I think three or four episodes and was actually a bit from my. Taken out my presentation from the elite youth soccer summit ride discuss specifically the number one reason given for quitting sport, which was usually ran aged thirteen or so was because it was no longer fun. Absolutely has to be fun. That's the foundation. Why else would you play right however I don't believe especially as we start getting a little older and they'd be doing why I don't believe it either. I, I don't think it's necessarily all fun all the time. You shouldn't play nothing is all fun all the time no matter what it is married couples come on I. Know You know what I'm talking about. Yes, it has to be fun that being said there's no great player. That I. Know of I have an interview them all but who loves the sport that will say it's fun all the time. Right excellent states time it takes ever it takes effort it takes dedication. And sometimes, that means getting out in training even when you don't feel like it or doing aspects of training that you might find kind of boring, it's not necessarily fun. You know some kids love the juggle others hate it basketball players some go out and shoot you know a thousand free throws other tickets. So boring you're lucky to get him to shoot five case or the the boring drills at. Team practices were or conditioning. Okay. Side note on that for those that don't like conditioning. The game is a lot more fun. When you are in shape the planet, there's nothing worse than being out on the soccer pitch and not really being able to compete the way you can because you're sucking wind. So go get a copy of dominate game, Dan? Amazon and get into shape. Okay. Moving on the attitude. Okay, the attitude with which you approach training also goes along way toward whether it is fun or not the minds of powerful thing. A look this goes for the coach as well as the players I have changed practices and training sessions completely. To make them more fun. If I felt that's what the players needed at the moment. Maybe they had a rough a rough weekend with a game or rough tournament weekend or they all had you know maybe it was testing or whatever it in schools and it was just something. This is why backtrack for. This is why it's also important to really to get to know your players whites important. Have some consistency not. Constantly, hopping teams because you can figure these types of things out and if I get a sense that. Practice just is working their their heads aren't there or whatever may be I may change it completely and changed it to something that just. Complete Fun. Go back, old school games, you know when they're teenagers but going back to school stuff from with their eight or nine or they might like or soccer offer crossbar challenge. We've had some sessions, look like complete chaos from outside but I felt that they were good for the players in that moment and good for them long term. So they they wouldn't be getting into a mindset of burn our they start reading practices and things become grind because no matter how much you love us for a season can become a grind at times depending on how things are going depending on how things are going away from the team. I look I hated to run just to run. It was just not my thing I run all day vows playing a sport but running to run didn't like it. But I was perfectly fine with doing it to improve my soccer performance. So no I didn't think the running was fun but I did it because it helped make soccer more fun. I didn't I really didn't because. Just said you, there's just nothing worse in terms of your sport than trying to play it. When you're not fit when you're not in shape especially as for like soccer if you're not conditioned, it is brutal to be out there and having to to sprint and sprint and sprint when you're not in shaping, he can't do it. So I was okay with doing things that might not be fun to me. If you looked at him specifically as what they were, but they were worth doing to me to be better at the game which was fun. If that makes sense right in the minds of powerful thing use it. You just mentioned about your your attitude that goes a long way. I've had many discussions with players about the things they can do in a game. That they couldn't do when they were younger clauses for group A. Little when they get nine ten eleven twelve, maybe they've been playing for a few years obviously how they play different rate when I talk about the more skilled, they are the more they know about the game the more fun the game is you I'd say goodbye remember when you were six and you basically had to stand on the goal line and run up to the ball from five yards away and swing your leg as hard as possible and you still might not kick it far enough to. To go in right compared to where you are now. So the game is more fun and that's because of the things you've been doing in practice in away from practice in order to become a skilled more skilled players smarter player. And it's more fun when you can do more things on the on the pitch right so it's worth the work that you put in that. You might not find fun in that moment. But, the game becomes more fun because of it. Right. So look is running hill sprinting fun. Okay. Yeah. For some of US crazier people it is for most people it's not not even soccer players but being fresh in the final fifteen minutes of a game when the other teams Sucking Win That's fun. Okay. So again, attitude plays a big role as well Back when my weight you nine players. Every time it was a bit colder windy or rainy, and you know how a lot of kids are they get out there the hand stay in the pockets are complaining about the the weather but. That soccer weather, right that is is it's fun to play in that stuff release. You have to convince yourself. It is and I I would shout it out with a smile when we get to a set of practice or a game with that kind of weather a shout out and be to a soccer weather this asaka whether it's great. Okay and it kind of caught on to. Some of the kids, not not all of them with some of the kids embrace Saturday, remember the I I think you nine. tournament went to for Thanksgiving tournament, and we played the first game I think eight fifteen or eight, thirty on Saturday morning you know in the field were white from the frost. There was a wind whipping across and I was out there on my way walk into the field and I hear this shout. From the parking lot and it was it was one of my girls screaming to me that this was soccer weather and now is awesome but she's going into it with a great attitude. The game's going to be a lot more fun than if she got they're whining and complaining about how cold and windy it was and didn't want to be there. So attitude is really really important as well. So. As I've talked with many about the balance between I. It's about the balance between them, pushing them, pushing their kids to get out with the ball at home but try not to turn them off the game. It's definitely a challenge to balance the the fun that supposed to be with also what you need to do to get better, and I've used music examples before. In the past about if kids are just going to the music lesson and only doing what they're doing at the music lesson nothing else they're not really going to improve all that much. You have to do some things at home right? So end but it's definitely for about a lot of parents because they don't WanNa, turn their kids off the game but. As you get a little older if they really enjoy playing look getting cut isn't fun sitting on the bench is it fun if you're on top team in your club and you go to try outs and you end up on a team below that's not fun. Okay. So it's I guess it sort of it depends a lot on how you define fun. But. Going off the beaten path just a little bit again on this topic of players doing more away from team practices it's something I've really tried hard to instill might players the last thing I've had this conversation with them when they're younger I don't want them looking back with regret bow missed opportunities for their soccer career. It goes fast athletic careers are short. You don't get it packed. There are no do overs I don't want ever want players when they get older look back and say while you know I wish I had done this when I was younger because I wanted to play Varsity as a freshman and I didn't I never even got any time as. On varsity until I was a junior or what may be maybe I wanted to play D. one in I ended up by at a D. three school or not playing in college at all you you hate to see that in the players and. Look. La Sometimes, it seems like the adults have forgotten what it's like to be a team we have been there. We do remember okay and and we need to take our experiences the good the bad. The regrets the mistakes the good things in used that to help players understand what they are going to need to do to make the most of their journey. If it's a journey they truly want to take in. That's a completely different discussion I. I love the sport of soccer. I think sports in general are great for kids. They should all play it regardless of level and that's something has to be figured out to maybe your kid is a kid that loves it. They love it to the point where they just love to go out and. Get some fresh air and kick the ball around with friends from school, and maybe rack is the level that they play that that really doesn't matter. That's something you have to figure out though. Look because their kids or worse teenagers and they're not necessarily GONNA get it. Okay. That's part of our role as coaches and parents 'cause some do but look overall teen sorry teens not known for their decision making an s just reality. So parents is role models mentors whatever word you want to use. It's up to us to our hardward heart one experience. To Guide them to help them get the most out of their out of their ability and help them in their sport and understanding what it is the need to do and to find a way for them to open their minds to. Doing these things without turning them off the game. I get. That's. Not Easy. He said, it's a balance who is one of the questions I get asked very very often. It's one of the reasons I spent so much of these podcasts talking about anything to do with the mental aspect of the game anything above the neck how crucial that is everything else I just wanted to touch on that a little bit and kind of my thoughts on. How we define fun in the reality of that. Okay. So This. is both the players, parents and coaches to something to think about how we can work together to make the Game Fun and also installing the work ethic needed into these players. So they can get the most out of their talent, which ultimately makes the game more fun. Right after all, you're going to need it to be successful in life as well. Or what you do most certainly, not always going to be fun but may have to do it anyway, also wrapping it up here you have any questions please go to the soccer specialist dot com slash contact right go join the facebook group would be having to go to facebook up the soccer specialist. If, YOU WANNA learn more about working with me one on one online, which is now available to the soccer specialist dot com slash one it. We will take your game to the next level grab a copy of dominate. Game Day on. Amazon if you had not done so yet. Okay. Remember you'd better than you think you are. You can do more than you think you can. You always could. Always practice like you were trying to make the team and we will talk to you later.
 Week 4: New Orleans Saints coaches film review
"Phillips today's October Two Thousand Nineteen we've got the film review for the saints coming up to stuff to cover lots of stuff but I I want to thank everybody condemn water on the Goddamn Huddle I'll tell you when you get a water break welcome to the buccaneers observer podcast a good time to extend these idiots I don't know when they got there. CBA in two thousand twelve with the strike and you had the replacement refs I said then probably lost this game I don't think so nine times the rest screwed us over nine with non calls or collins stuff they shouldn't have called Phil get a totally different impression the game you can see more of what happened now we said in the instant reaction basically we've got torched we I've known in the preseason everyone was talking about it it happened last year and then if c championship that's really when they started talking about so why they thought play will our defensive line didn't do much they're off into line played well yes that sounds about right maybe the rest sock yes then and this is very bad if we give if we went to the refs on this because it gives them too much power and as we've seen they've got way too much power now they needling Tom yes all the above here's what I don't understand these referees just got extended for seven years there done took all day it was a mess power went out I had recorded for an hour and a half in the power went out and lost everything I had to restart again power went out three times hey that was a pain free actually recording the commentary I'll annoying frequent safe I would save allow relatively quickly now we've talked about in the podcast how you watch the broadcast you get an impression of the game then you watch the doll twenty two coaches Va if you'll recall in twenty twelve they had the lockout the replacement refs which I would argue are better than these rafts just as good but that's neither here nor there star review if you if you like our mess apparently we got some people aggravated by talking about General Lane and the media like that a whole lot so they totally influenced the Games and it's GonNa ruin the game I mean everybody everybody saw that push off by Michael Thomas everybody saw it I persevered got it done I've got four pages of notes here front and back lots to talk about it here I don't know how long this podcast is going to be because I think I'll be able to summit be by the better team the better team the secretary didn't play that well Thomas God bungee yards on us our offense of line didn't play well they're defensive line her get it out there to other buckner vans also we've had a couple of bad star reviews on our I tune so if you're listening to it on itunes go ahead and give us a good everybody even the booth announcers everybody twitter even saints fans have said Hey y'all got screwed on that one yeah we got screwed and it went in a replay and they still didn't know return it now about it I don't know if they didn't know they weren't releasing it they were doing it quietly I don't know what happened but it pisses me off because this stuff a Guy Ron River Alberta River on is the guy in New York who does all the replace stuff one guy you've got some not for everybody it's just it's True Bailey of all things and so people are going to gripe about on the VA was set to expire in May of twenty twenty and they quietly signed an extension with the NFL at the end of September nobody is the big takeaway from this watching the coaches film we said even without those bad caused by the wrath of the non calls or whatever that we would it's laws are good and bad that's not their job so something needs to be done and I'm going to do some research into exactly the process behind all these passes court or the Judicial branch not enforcing laws written by Congress you know their job is to enforce the laws uphold the law not the side optus has been served and unfortunately right now nobody understands the rules nobody knows what's passing ferrets. Nobody knows what's intentional grounding nobody knows what's interference caused because one thing about any system whether you'd like the rules are not being able to understand the rules is vitally important for anybody to feel one guy doing it and this Albarn River on does not agree that pass interference should be reviewable he says it's a subjective call subjective roughing the quarterback these these rules are just getting out of hand and what safeguards do we have in place to make sure that these rats are not skewing we've never had a scandal was all upset we talked bad about generally he was late night up in there I wonder if it's the same one that said something on twitter so God the film reviewed refuses to enforce the rules when their job is to enforce the rules does the NFL not employing this guy it would be like the supreme the NFL that I'm aware of where rents have thrown games due to bedding or whatever but what safeguards do we have in place to make sure that doesn't happen it looks to me they are and we've seen a rash of these reviews where you look at all yeah that's definitely pass interference and then they're not calling it how can the NFL employ someone Dr this there's some validity to this hour of around doesn't want pass interference to be reviewable so he's just not going to overturn calls no matter how blatant McCaffrey he used to be the punter for the Indianapolis Colts he's got a podcast show and all that good stuff period -taining if you want to listen to some funny stuff he's also a stand up comedian he says all my years of watching film I think we had an Atlanta game a couple of years ago where we had eleven can't remember but it was somewhere in there but we had two times like there are no safeguards because this is getting ridiculous anyhow the refs screwed us nine times nine times and sort of the highest I've ever graded in add to intentional groundings that they didn't call bridgewater and did a video and I've got these in the video it'll be out Wednesday evening should not be reviewable now apparently from Pat McCaffrey's opinion run at river on is not overturning calls no matter how blatant added if you WANNA call it that where he will be grasped Hobie almost to the ground he'll be spinning around and Hoge's throw the ball right in dirt and they never call intentional grounding that totaled almost eighty yards right there I think it was eighty yards somewhere in that area seventy six yards seventy six on those two passes Michael Thomas pushed off and picked up big yardage twice and then call they didn't call it the first one was the the play on leaves that we all saw is I think that was the first one no I'm sorry the first one happened at eight twenty three in the first quarter Michael Thomas going across the middle and thirty three the power got and I have to open everything back turned back on open everything back get everything set right by the time I do that I would go back off again but you got it done right with him and Michael Thomas Reaches Out and pushes him on the hip and caused a separation like Oh Thomas got a thirty four yard pass on that one refs did not call it they have amen as eligible so if he has to do this they can always argue that there was an eligible receiver in that vicinity. I've seen so many times drew brees is a master maybe he's part of their team then there was the fumble yeah where the returned eye drops it clear fumble and we had a recovery normally do as they will report a Lineman as eligible because drew brees likes to do this antisocial where he can't get it over the life so they report an offense nothing because of that because there's always a running back he's tiny but it's intentional grounding it's intentional he's not trying to pass he's not trying to get it either way inside faulkner outside the pocket if they are in the grasp of a defender or they're imminently going to be in the grass with the defender if they're outside receiver he's just throwing it in the dirt we saw that with I think it was Matt Ryan the other day where he was being sacked and just threw it right in the dirt wasn't nobody near but then in the San it was a fumble and it wasn't forward progress but because they blew the whistle they couldn't identify who got the ball they still charge be at times twice now he did not eligible the saints fans do wear referee costumes to the stadiums Seventy six of their three hundred and some yards that the saints through a so they had a total of three hundred forty five passing yards so seventy four that was ref mistakes okay then they had the two intentional grounding calls that were called I I don't understand that the ref was right there I mean the ball literally almost hitting them Cisco Game we had dream is getting sacked and he throws the ball out of the end zone and they call that intentional grounding right which I've never seen them do that before that one got it and call it okay so what's the rule when there are inside the pocket if thorough they're if they're being imminently going to be sacked inside the pocket progressive stopped before he fumbled that turned out to be wrong right it was total chaos they. BA challenged it he won the pocket they have to at least throw it pass the line of scrimmage time pocket you don't have to know if you're inside the pocket all you have to do is throw it near an eligible receiver and with the running up the middle in sacks jameis Winston and he does Ron Right up I mean it was a huge hole this is in the fourth quarter is a huge hole right up the middle this is true this is very true so ninety three grabs hold a Jensen and yanks him pulls him out of the way creating huge open space I think it was fifty three runs uh-huh wins the challenge but yet they still charge them a timeout because we didn't get the ball he mentioned in the press conference okay and then later in the game six Wednesday afternoon in I show it in there with charts inaugurals twice he threw the ball outside the pocket as he was being sacked her tackled me often of course I've seen it happen fifty times since then without them calling intentional grounding look and see whether the reps get fined because someone coming in on twitter any of those the ball and it doesn't go back to the line of scrimmage that is intentional grounding now there was a ref right they're both times the ball hit the ramp twice and now for that which was total bullshit which is wrong because he wanted to challenge right that that's the thing it was just it was just insanity instead it was a sec I have never considered that that's the call on defense of holding benefits like alignment whole we had one last week forty four I think it was a third quarter can't remember written down here somewhere might have been the fourth quarter they get a sack a guy comes ten years doing a podcast for one hundred nineteen episodes we're not qualified for this so yes as good as the next person game plan he's he's the best cornerback we have in coverage and they removed that we had to put bumping in in his place a rookie at her it hurt us quite seven Larry Warford for the New Orleans Saints Fall started and they never called it how do you fall start and not get called on the offensive line that's a weird one because badly then in this one I just don't understand at all again I mean this is basic referee and one oh one twice number sixty correctly this guy moves quite extensively twice no call one of them I think it was called NASA was complaining to the reps again you know he was like what are you doing he this is on the line ninety three holding call on an offensive lineman right it's a it's a holding call on the defensive lamb it would have been a five yard penalty automatic first down what's the Carlton Davis Ejection that in theory to me yes that makes no sense and again there's no standard all clear recovers and in the pile gets up runs out with the ball and they say there's no clear recovering well they said that they blew the whistle because they said his Ford well you know how that whole got their ninety three grams hold of Jackson and pulls him posing no defender no you cannot he grabbed one even doing the false start motion with his hands and no call we had that last week where call NASA got called for encroachment when actually it was the right guard at false start even those to push off penalties by Michael Thomas for seventy four yards the false starts they should have been called you Jensen holding exactly now everybody's been complaining about the secondary just saying we just gave up way too many arts age these guys couldn't cover anybody Michael Thompson for how they do these things now yes it should have been a penalty based on modern rules but an injection no I don't understand the parameter of the top ten plays by garbage for the saints nine of them were passing plays one of them was a rush around play now the top two were the REF I always assume when they call holding on the defense coverage gets Nacho last week and causing holding on the defensive line the problem was our linebackers are secondary yes the linebackers gave up a hundred and twenty five yards on eleven passing out so that was nine times the ref screwed us over right there that's a lot and that was our big big plays so I'm going to say that if the rats didn't screw us over packers were the total problem but they were the bigger problem the cornerbacks gave up one hundred forty four yards on twenty three passing plays Hargreaves India we just don't hear about it so I'm going to do a whole research on this rap stuff I've had about enough of it okay so we've had so far we've had two wide receiver push offs both level Michael Thomas US nine times we would have been in this game no doubt about it no doubt about it especially the turnover keeping Carlton Davidson in now I'm not saying the rest of the only problem in the game we did have problems we gave up three hundred forty five yards four touchdowns to teddy bridgewater I don't mind the yardage he's a liability in coverage especially with the saints apparently he had four of the top ten long as yards play for the saints he gave out mark now hold in I thought you only call it if it's after five yard but you're thinking of the wide receivers when they're bumping another this is right up the middle and sex James Winston Court Johnson turned around and he's just living with the refs he was like hey man that got just grabbed me and pulled me of course the rest didn't see it open all the time Blah Blah Blah and I've been a defender of the secondary say no these guys are playing good the problem is our linebackers guess what L. They couldn't see it I don't know because I saw an instantly when the when the boss naps they closer is I'm a blake through this whole play then I thought he played well I think our secondary did play well there was a there was an issue with communication there were some busted coverages and there was a couple of plays where allowed three catches for forty yards. Now that's minus the one by the RAFF hoggeries had a couple of screwed up plays what everybody's GonNa have screwed up plays generally a defence a defensive lineman can do an offsides but if they get back they're fine but often supply and they don't get you know you can't move nine penalties that should have been called or were called and shouldn't have been whatever nine nine ref interferences or not interferences cost us the game and then right behind that again you know with mentors coverage abilities Devon white might not be any better who knows for any worse James Ticket happy feet a few times he threw some bad passes Kim man he didn't play great he's about average I guess I think the important distinction there is that he didn't screw it up for us part New Orleans just did the right play you know we would fall back in zone and they would get somebody right on the scene we're right between zones exactly how you're supposed to do it so mistakes were they call the pushing off the next two was Kevin Minter he is a liability in coverage we've been talking about that since game three yes he he's the only person that played with any Hisbah I guess as Lord would be Nacho and whitehead was still playing you know he was shooting in like a missile and everything but he the penalty is holding you can hold within five yards of the line of scrimmage you're taking a block in the the game I mean he didn't throw bad passes he was on point he made all the right decisions he saw receivers were open he's a salad quarterback is very solid quarterback win a very small sample with him I don't think that he's caught up to the speed and the game yet no no I'm not real excited about seeing them back in yet either so but you should have been called I mean annette that turned into a sack that would have went from a negative nine yards to a positive I we just got hosed by these rafts how much the touchdowns that's what hurts actual point right if they would've frigging or forty five yards and no touchdowns that would have been awesome like the rams we we just had no gumption even when we would make a play you wouldn't see guys jumping up and down celebrate and there was one where Godwin scored a touchdown it's this many adding to ref mistakes at six of the top ten had nothing to do with our quarterbacks or a secondary now I'm not saying that the Russians now you did your pets Monday anger so yeah everybody has blamed the secondary they blamed the offensive line which I'm going to say this right to have really needs to step in that's ridiculous I know it was one of those moments where you wish there isn't a reply button well you know you get a loss I would put the linebackers mentor in particular but David had few screw ups to is Devon white any bettering coverage I don't know I don't think so in the fourth quarter I think it was the last touchdown was scored and Evans was right beside even if it's just turned around walked off and Godwin dropped the ball and they walked everybody everybody played very well in the secondary they stuck our guys like glue we had very open very few open receivers and they played with a lot of energy man the saints team both passes he threw out routes to Scotty Miller were both bad passes I think it's because got him so short they were both about a foot over Scott sure Sharon our podcast getting out there to everybody if you would go and hit that share button and send it to somewhere I don't know facebook read it words from the injection and doesn't really seem like there are any they didn't explain it then all it and explain it at all they said he's jacket and he was a big part of our about the broadcast which you've talked about before you can't see the secondary so yes James got sacked six times but we don't know whether it was because of received Braga Piss people off they didn't play bed I tweeted that on Monday Dan Good Yeah Well Donald Smith like right he played great well and wasn't jumping up and down and excited like everybody was flat sticking Whitehead I was freed in until Vox fan article today and one of the fans in the comments so then us and everybody's GonNa blame their favorite targets yeah and I've said the see you before the families gets really angry and I think it's a dude thing that's how y'all process the defense and offense special teams they played a lot of energy we looked flat I mean we looked like we want to be there like we were tired and you know it could be possible with all the traveling we're doing but you know those kind of go you gotta hand it to the Saints for that one now Teddy Bridgewater Plenty Greg besides those two intentional groundings at work called he played US emotions you'll get mad at people whereas ladies we like to eat our feelings wine eat some chocolate talk it over out therapy Murray's weren't open and he had to hold the ball I'm GonNa tell you okay all six four of them were though lines fault he didn't lose us the game no he didn't he didn't we love our here now with this the revlon game I'm going to stand by that I mean I wonder if it's just he's too fast skinny is too short for those out routes I don't know why are we heading to an outright so it's just silly he's got the blaze down the field the saints notes here yes one of the second quarter one of the first quarter four in the fourth quarter now the one of the first quarter at one of four that was a coverage sack well that doesn't help our case any the four of them came in the fourth quarter one came in the first quarter another came in the second quarter I believe missy then probably broke his arm at nine minutes into the second quarter DEDUC- when he broke it no saw somebody had put a clip on twitter to quickly okay so there's those two that was the first half offensive line played well capital was the worst performing player arm well in the first quarter he very strange play they the saints blitzed both cornerbacks from outside one from the left one from the right and then they had three rushers from Dan the guy was ninety four was on eighty so they had their best pass rusher was trying to be blocked by OJ Howard OJ Howard held him for except more pet was a little bit further he came a little bit further out he wasn't right on the line he he knew that cornerback was common which was good pick up a hill yeah but it was it was strange on that play because more pet it looked like he knew the blitz was coming because I mean he immediately stepped out in behind Donald Smith the block that cornerback check bounds or hot routes on that play so they knew there was a blitz coming why didn't they have a check on her hot round very strange very strange yeah Winston really didn't have much to do I mean he had to scramble Line Three Defensive Linemen Coming Donald Smith picked up his guy and it looked like he went the passing to Alamar pet little did he know alley more pet had was blocked by the running back so we had the blitz covered but unfortunately Donald Smith pushed his guy over to the side like he thought that was gonna be there and then you could see him go oh crap I jumped out to go and run and block one of the quarterbacks that was rushing in so Donald Smith it looked like he went to pass him and then when he realised more pet wasn't there he just kept kind of left Donald Smith hanging and it's a shame on that one too because Scotty Miller was open for a touchdown he was blazing down the field he was wide open for a touchdown so you can't really Gary Okay so the fourth quarter we had ten thirty one dotson Marquette's not there and he ended up pushing the God further for the Guy Kinda got around him impress your Jameis Winston and James Scramble and ended up getting sack so you could say that was he gave up a couple of he got beat a couple of times when he got his arm he actually perform better after that I thought it's the adrenaline well there's compression sleeves that look like but he was the worst performing he didn't play terrible we did have broken up people given Dotson a hard time coming in and it looks like Smith started to go from cornerback to I don't know very very strange point but the very strange thing about it was if more pet knew there was a blitz coming they didn't have that was missed bought but at the same time we like you know was more pets supposed to be there I don't know yeah it looks like more pet immediately I mean he immediately jumped back to block that quarterback her and I'd seen it but I didn't pay attention to on the all twenty two but yeah he went and got his arm wrapped up on what he had on there like a temporary cast or something supposed to be doing a valley are going out for screen thanks though he actually went behind on of and Smith it was away like trying to massage it in when he went out immediately josh wells allowed to sack and that was ninety four their best past Jordan what's out there seen that before I've never seen anybody it sounds like a like a reverse stunt offense and that's exactly what it looked like to seven fifty in the fourth quarter Alamar pit gets beaten by ninety and that sucked too because Michael Evans was open downfield Michael the the podium I can't remember who pulled him it's on the video ninety-three comes blazing up the middle and Poor Daraga Wally tries to blocking in this guy's running at full speed toget- Jensen gets held and pulled aside ninety three and they don't that one gypsy gets pulled away ninety three comes running up the middle it wasn't ninety the snap to it's like it's like he pulled with just the Round Donald Smith and he ran and caught the cornerback that was coming in other corner probably when his mom calls him Michael He's Michael to me yeah he was open down the field and here's the thing Winston could thrown it winston had time to throw it look at this pass rush did Dallas's offensive line last week five hundred bucks on Dak Prescott and that's probably a top five the guy didn't get to him before and then Winston topped the ball and ran with and he shouldn't man I mean he could he should've just stepped around the guy or whatever but even before the guy got there beat Demar Dotson are the saints blitz six Jensen ended up double team in with Mark Pat leaving the Middle Open and two guys run right up the Middle Oh yeah so you've got push me but the guy was able to get around I really wouldn't say it was Donald Smith Fall within just a miscommunication like nobody understood what the players could've thrown into my cowen who was up and down the field six forty four and fourth quarter Jensen gets held at the one where he gets held and pushed aside so you can't really say lansac either i Sunday and cap obviously has a broken arm so that'll be a few weeks I hope that eventually they'll just give them a cat club and people offensive line that the saints just manhandled sow for above average offensive line I don't really have a problem with them. Performing the action played well he had like two or three bad plays and it was right around the time his hamstring started messing with him so I think he just couldn't move that leg product you're selling he kept grabbing his leg after the arm Smith played very well and it's a weird saying that you know he's played great all year and he's playing golf he's playing me and he's playing through the whistle he's not loafing at all I guys earned his money so the Olen was not that big of an issue to me it doesn't really bother me that they give up six sacks because right game he played a great game here that one issue there where you know I'm still I don't know whose fault was But he stayed with his defender the whole time blocking all time I mean four with four underneath or cover three with four under neither cover three with three hundred Nathan was very very straight we had our linebackers back in coverage a lot it didn't work and you can say number two and number one are a combination putting these linebackers in the coverage like that all the time just it's just not working title or let me rephrase that we had three sacks airline sacks one of them was Josh Wells I think of this I snap in the game be bothered number one pass rusher came Jordan he had a head start Dari got blowed up he ended up on his butt and a ninety three footprint wonder think a cartoon we did not blitz and we didn't start until the second half and then it was all mainly linebacker blitzes so it sounds like that was our game plan right okay so put in there hopefully josh wells will do good because apparently he's going to be there for a while we got warford going for going in for Campus Position Johnson is definitely out I am surprised that they performed as well as they did true especially when you consider one of them had a broken arm the other one had a hamstring issue and then when he left we had a scrub scrub the three seconds yeah for like almost four seconds so get that one at all second quarter at seven hundred seven Donald Smith got beat on this but it was a very are in an only saw one they blitzed live we didn't blitz hardly at all we dropped guys back into coverage we were playing some weird coverages we were playing like a we play like a cover got beat and the two guys went right up the middle and Winston had no chance I mean they will they're on top of him like a minute the mid second half so that was definitely the offensive line there that's what I meant to get to the number one problem was the wraps number two problem was land backers and coverage number three problem was the game plan on both sides of the ball why we lost it would be the rafts number one number two linebackers and coverage and when I say that I want to you know blame mentor for most of the Linebacker I just mentor it was all the linebackers had somewhat crappy coverage but we did not blitz hardly at all I didn't see a blitz until the second quarter yeah ninety three came barreling in full speed with a head start and just ran right over top forty four so the old line played well Donald Smith that means Barrett drop back in coverage a lot is one of the reasons why he didn't get any stats as game because he was dropped back coverage live way more than I would've liked and we we and what we are tackling him you really have to wrap it up him up and even sometimes that's not enough he can especially ankle tackles the devante David Hannah Ankle tackle on we didn't get blowed up last year we had played a team like this it would have been ugly Ryan Fitzpatrick it's Magic House great game has left the second quarter yeah then they scored that touchdown ray before the half yes the game just did not seem like it was ever that close now I thought again line and the secondary is not correct if he asked me now the second or did screw up they had some bad plays Hari did get beat by Michael Thomas like a bugs bunny shoes were still sitting there smell coming out of them declared on that one for sure I do maybe rex number one number two the game plan and number two a linebackers wherein coverage we'll go with that so blamed they were definitely the better team and they were only within one touchdown only a touchdown ahead of us all the way till the mid fourth quarter tie it was it was commend one time that he just got ran out marriage is really going to stay on his feet and he just waiting for you to kind of lose your balance or whatever so he can escape he's got great competitive and it was just a little few things here and there you know he had some bad passes the few bad decisions he didn't see a couple of open to impress with him but we'll see in live action game day yeah getting first team reps to well he'd be matched up against your favorite player. Oh Gosh yeah that's right achievers he got happy feet you know he didn't play a bad game but it was you know kind of an average quarterback game he needed to play above average and he did pretty close game actually consider I think the final score really doesn't reflect how it went for us and I think that's kind of a testament to what type of team we are feeling to write to all the time and they did three last game scored a touchdown off of it clarinet right because they weren't expecting it then later the season their second stringers booked our ass so I think with this game if Winston would play just a little bit better we would have definitely been set the defense wouldn't know what to do would not what what to do nobody would nobody's ever played three tight ends like that we'll see if it ever comes to fruition and then there was Michael Tom caught the ball and the quarterbacks thirty three and twenty six were right there thirty three hits him good hit it doesn't ramp him up so you know the game wasn't the disaster we saw on the broadcast version it was just a a bunch of mass here and there the rafts really screwed us over Camaro does incredibly good balance here's something interesting to that kind of maybe do a double take did you score was tied ten ten thirty seven they scored a lot of points in a Lotta yardage yeah forty one at that point there was no film on us I think we just came out and Kinda sucker punched don't like that whole dilemma game and then by week don't come back after that imagine so if I had to from what we talked about so far if I had to put order commitment to see how Warford does implicit kappa what for what I want for Latin right now watching him in the preseason I was like me in bridgewater throws the ball right to him he walks in for a touchdown if mentor would have just moved over five yards which is fine because the has the ball was on the left Hash Mark L. Cavin Mentor couple others there was one place really weird I I have no idea what kind of defense it was it looked like a Tampa too and they score a touchdown on this but Kevin Mentor Dan he cuts across and a whitehead had gone over to help double with Thomas and gain gives him between Whitehead and Mentor in stop runs I can see you dialing back to bullets because you're facing drew brees who can get the ball off quickly but teddy bridgewater the certain spot because that's exactly what he did and he does this all the time he runs to a certain spot and he stands there you know he's not really paying attention to what's going on doesn't have situational awareness to know that hey you can move off that spot if this guy's coming over this way or you know you need to hedge a little bit anyway so anyhow he goes he backpedals about twenty five yards down the all in the first quarter of first half where he got around beat his guide almost got bridgewater missing by inches sue had a few good plays where he was tossing is around the linebackers gotta get better and coverage just knowing where they're supposed to go seems to be the problem's not like to get beat per se it's just go to the wrong spots or they're going to spots like you descent we have really good pass catching tight ends of really WANNA see -tainer Hudson OJ Howard came and bright on the field at the same time in a three tight ends ran down the field probably twenty five yards backpedaling and you could tell he was told to get center hash marks getting getting the center of the Hash Marks and backup to it's probably going to do they're just GonNa have Ryan Jensen keep an eye on both the right guard and left right tackle to help them out probably keep a running back back there to tidy I know why they told him to get in the center of the Hash I don't I don't know but that's the thing it seems like you know these guys are running to their spots or running to the wrong spots you know it's not that they're getting in fact yes matter fact he he burned hoggeries Wanna hargreaves bad defenses was because tatum hill where they're supposed to be that if they're actually supposed to accomplish what they're there for two interesting interesting game but yeah the game plan could have been a lot better we did not blitz near as much as we should help we do a lot of blocking with our tight ends we are tight ends on the field a lot but they do a lot of blocking the door blocking the route running which to me is unfortunate because present drew brees racy doesn't get the ball out that fast but don't get me wrong teddy bridgewater played very good game like we said the preseason if Tabriz goes the twenty sixth never touched him and by the time she turned around after the shrug that hit off of them walked right into your tackling wasn't great and like Chimera he's pretty slippery so and you could see all of a sudden takes them hill just snapped his head around and whips it to Michael Thomas and you actually see hargreaves you know he's just kind of lolly gagging along with and the old stands in the center of the field right in the middle of the Hash Mark so you can tell he's looking down to make sure he's in the right spot and their receiver Ted Jin who now they've got two quarterbacks that can step in that are almost as good I mean those two quarterbacks are starting level quarterbacks anywhere else in the league how do you take some hill do overall the one time for a touchdown where the Hargrove's got spun around in confused looked like he didn't know where he was added argues is called Bonner blocked writing for touching he's I think it was a touchdown remember it was not I hate it I
Ron Rosser, U.S. Army, Korea, Medal of Honor
"Let's say you just bought a house bad news is you're one step closer to becoming the modal on again good news it's easy to bundle home and auto through Progressive Ronald Rosser who was awarded the Medal of honor for his Valor and Korea and Sir it's an the the older son of seventeen children they never knew me there's just I was rumored to them so I never come back so you joined the army right after World War Two to begin well actually about two stopped for the most part and in August but there was show holdouts control they took her those problems I understand so how long were you in the first winning eighty second airborne when I was seven right after a turn seventeen I flew a lot but I never landed lunch in an airplane always at that time had a had pretty well enough of it and yeah I saw a guy make a parachute jump from a hot air balloon were one guy you're the army was cutting down a lot at that time action to that and then how that immediately led to you wanted to get back in well and all my life you know fought for my brothers it was just some stranger killing my brother not an enemy and I made there's one week actually all it did was quote underneath a barb wire stopped in Japan they took me off the boat in Japan and cookie a chance to go to Korea and when I got to Korea the her because I've been trained since almost the day I went in the army just start with uh when they expose themselves and even if they don't expose themselves I dust with mortar fire and artillery fire because there was a lot of targets the best way to put it that in America I'm killed twenty people in hand to hand combat I had a bad sense terr- rattling your cage I just got I just the middle of July of Nineteen nineteen the first three months I was there about two thousand men were the push to get into this in fact when I when I got to the tuners of first governor said I'm not going down to thirteen cabinet I'm going online I Governor House Academy I'm not going to the third pretender and the other tune I'm servers radio operators and says Sir I'm the Best Ford Observer you're ever server I was actually wounded four times I got wounded on they to the hand into the arm or through the shoulder your first experience in combat like after all that training exactly what I expected a great risk to yourself of course say aren't you afraid to die in Ron said I'm not even afraid of living the figuring out exactly where to call in I could more about three different and sway ended up you have to develop much of a relationship with the people and whatever else I needed and I had with me was a radio man and I lost eight of them three killed and that was a thing that could happen any day and be quite a reunion I can promise you they made me feel bad to Mr Rosser let's go to January of Nineteen fifty infantry our objective that day was a battalion got to the hill the artillery Ford Observer had been wounded and lost his sergeant ended about thirty five jail on her feet the weather was left and I called the regimental commander giving the situation ended and he said is becoming commander live I said yes or his whole face was talk to him so they're criminals says I want you to reorganize your man and make one final Johnny's face I heard somebody say I'll take him up for you captain demand burp gun lines submachine gun line and five heavy machineguns yeah you're GonNa do that now should well only way I know Sir as smooth fast and Gwen got all the men that were left and told them what our objective was hi gave the word and jumped up and I said let's go and I didn't feet from the Chinese and I stopped to look back and I was by myself green and jumped into trench with him I was so close I was actually checking my car being in there I just cleaned out a whole trench got the end of the trenching knocked out just and so I- charged him you know worked both ways you know and other than that they were running by me an hour stacking them up into tranches they run by me I'm kid broke through to me and he he was wounded badly almost immediately ignored 'em connecticut didn't had no ammunition and got this kid on my shoulder pain got thirty five yards and I was laughing and this lieutenant autonation I gotta get Rambo and he looked at me real funny and you and I thought I'm we'll get killed can handle it as your lieutenant up the mountain a win again by myself I blessed told me and beat me with rifles and and know about another dozen piled on me and got a gun that could have picked you off you made it back down the hill and I really loaded up with Ms Hang on me and I the Chinese and they couldn't leave one guy was coming at them again and eh instead of shoot me they was watching the hanger date win they went right into trench signees and was trying to get at me and they got in behind back and he was laying he was actually laying right in front of and he didn't fire and so that's the kid I picked up and took safety shing owner turned around and looked at me and it was a guy that that me pass didn't fire that in my whole life and let him live and went on down I ran out ammunition again went down and got some more grenades stuff and went back finding run out amunition and I went down I got in the show walking wounded you've got her and we can find and get these dead and wounded off the mountain and I said we've done some real good and they did quite get to that Opportunity County here and we got out of the hold started walking down the mountain and the Chinese did you see it go the that pretty much ended in fact I was wounded twice that day got hit in the hand and through the shoulder she killed a line assistant report it so I got hit in the foot the first time we're GONNA get hit again and so I didn't turn that in neither my company knew I was wounded honor I got wounded twice that day but only one purple heart the same it'd take you off the line and I didn't want that the it's hard to say you know somebody's good in you know killing in my regimental commander offer you know when I got put him for the Medal of honor ordered me getting hard of hearing and so he he didn't want to say so he said I'll get back WanNa know where he'd put me to keep me alive and chronic say in order from a general officer and Colonel Ronald Koeman we haven't told me that and I said Sir where the sun does shine the General Channel WanNa know I knew then but like everything else you know you never know if you're going to get it you know you're in Fort awarded the Medal of honor and I said no sir and said well we don't what you've done but you've disorders described the day for us when you read the White House with President Truman and his dad hid behind my my father and but I thought it was kind of funny and finally the President took was recording the whole thing and he said hair was a soldier came to that was true to feel that way do you have a private conversation with the president and yes I just finished having a nice conversation with Mr Trump Sir I've been in this office under every president since Franklin Roosevelt he's in Ann Arbor Bowl since Harry Truman I was with Obama five different times I was with the President Kennedy the day before he was killed he had promised to but he's told me there he said he'd stopped indices mother and he was on his way to Dallas so obviously it's been more than sixty years now since the armistice sick on the side of the south can see a huge difference between the north and the south at the same time if an awful lot of people with their I I never fought in South Korea hours fought North Korea the my job was safe protect the lives of about eight hundred the collect a couple of times one time we got hit with about twenty five and guys like me have to slow him down thin amount or the kids are all dead they couldn't get to the kids up as always out in front of the whole some people and wounded wounded got how I have no idea how many more autocratic and just new miserable life for most of their people and South Korea is thriving standing like this you know the North Koreans were scared of Korea. I can tell you that I've watched I've been there many times in fact my it doesn't seem
The Chris and Joe Show: Quick takes for a 27-21 loss to Arizona
"Are you troubled by strange hockey trades in the middle of the night do you experience feelings of dread about Nhl Free Agency have you or your family ever seen in your rheinlander scheme if the answer is yes don't wait another minute pick up your mobile device and subscribe to Lighthouse Hockey podcasts from espy nation today our courteous and efficient host ready to serve all of your islander needs worries lighthouse hockey podcasts for New York islanders fans the only get three yards I just need to get something out of this play instead of waiting for something to develop especially because my offensive line is not doing a very a number of things need to come together though in his play overall for us to feel more positive about how he's playing because there are a lot of it's discussing both sides so we're not overly pessimistic after a pretty poor performance for the giants but the first positive that we have in this game aim is the Daniel Jones flashed his mobility like we've seen multiple times and he had thirty five yards rushing in the game however that does come with and you're listening to the Chris Joe Show presented by SP nation and and then giving you the deep dive on Tuesday morning after we take a look at the film so as we do usually we're going to be taking a look at the positives in the negative play and pick up some first downs on his own that's great that is a dimension the giants offense really needs right now but and this is make up his mind quicker about what he's going to do with an offense of line that's been struggling it is good that he's been able to escape the pocket we're going to discuss the offensive line issues very soon in the negatives but it's very good that he's able to make those decisions to exit the pocket and he's Athletic Enough Greg Olsen was talking all too long nobody was really open so those are the times were Daniel Jones needs to realize hey I need to get up field I needed just get out maybe I only get five yards the offense of lining their problems passed protecting I did I did think Jones had a few really nice throws the touchdown to read Ellison stands out I believe he fit the ball about how underrated he is as an athletic quarterback that people don't really acknowledge that and we continue to see that week in week out now thing we both agreed on before the show he needs to use it sooner he has been holding the ball too long that's something we noted against the Patriots the things that he tends to do in his decision making like you said holding onto the ball he had plenty of chances to Tuck it and run sooner and it seems like those plays where he was holding onto the ball eller job of protecting me yeah and like you said that's something we will get to in due time and it's going to take a whole whole whole lot of time for us to get to it resulted in in a bad interception against the Patriots and he did it this game again he needed multiple attempts for the giants to come back as usual folks we're going to be providing are quick kicks our immediate reactions after the game leading you know what's on our minds it is and now have a record of two and five on the year after falling to the cardinals twenty seven to twenty one game that was a torrential downpour and feature big Lou view I'm Joe deleon joined by Chris Phlegm and today we're going to be discussing the Newark giants recent loss to the cardinals they've suffered three straight losses a very small asterix next to it he yet definitely him to evading tacklers evade sacks extend the into a really tight window with golden tate a little bit later in the game those are good things to see his ability to run is obviously good for the defense are you put it perfectly there that there needs to be a point where it stops being flashes and it just becomes the standard we're trying to be as optimistic as we can because two and five is not a away that you wanna start a season so we want to point out the things that are being flashed that could be the potential for great talent but at some point during this season those things need to become consistent or at least for Epi is obviously good for the offense but it's just these little flashes they need them to stop being flashes and just start streaming good place like that to get at the beginning of next season something needs to change something needs to click for him because a lot of these reoccurring mistakes I understand there have not been enough games under his belt to really be overly critical about these things but still something needs to click he needs to start making some changes in the he's a guy that's pointed out that he needs to make those changes eventually he's going to the other positive we had from this game and we talked about this in the preview show about how explosive this air raid offense is for the Arizona cardinals and they were able to only hold them to eighty nine yards passing during the a four sacks and things like that kind of factor into the description discrepancy there but either way that would should be a three win for the make the giants Defense Ron especially on the perimeter and really not put their receivers in the position where they had to potentially make tough watches in the rain so there are few caveats to that win for the giants defense but holding a player who had three hundred and forty yards the week before is defense the problem was that it seemed like Arizona was content take the air out of the ball they were happy to run the ball try to name yeah ordinarily I would say this was a huge win for the giants eighty nine yards passing for the team column Reeves credited with one last week against the Atlanta Falcons the fact that he only had one oh four is a pretty good sign they were chasing him down there were able to sack him despite him being thing I would argue one of the most elusive quarterbacks tackle because he's so small he's so compact his feet or so quick and he can find George I think is very very positive and something that you can kind of hang your hat on but not too much because of how much they were able to run the ball on the ground seen as quickly as possible change of direction is very very rare for him at the quarterback position and his arm allows them to get the ball out quickly so able to hold onto that if you look at the game though statistically the giants actually outperform them in yardage to sixty three to two forty five so even though the cardinals decided to be a bit all over the yard and we just didn't see that and I suppose that's a good thing for the defense if the cardinals hadn't basis yeah I think a lot of people were expecting to see recently like Texas tech in the NFL airing the ball out throwing it yes contributing factors to it will be able to better determine that once we take a look at the film and provide you some more in-depth analysis on Tuesday morning to roughly a hundred yards this week that's at least something to hang your hat on I really thought that they did a good job of containing Murray and you said that he had such a good performance now we're going to take a look at the negatives and we've got plenty to cover here but before we do that we are going to be taking a very brief commercial break. Hey I'm Spencer Hall I'm Holly Anderson I'm Ryan Nanny I'm Jason Kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football pot pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now assertive and their playcalling they did not have as as explosive and as productive as a day is that we're really expected to seeing it's you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP anytime you lose a game unless maybe it's a very close hard fought battle you're probably GonNa have more negatives than positives then really been able to run all over them I really thought this game was gonna be shootout if anyone happened to see my staff pick from the game and I guess the rain might have been one of the big major pressing policy issues in tech like facebook's content moderation around doing great youtube harassment plan or lack there of and whether or not the government should break Amazon which it is one of those days for the giants because there were a lot of miscues throughout the game that caused a number of problems for the giants that they couldn't be other Murray the first negative that we need to talk about right now is the final four minutes of the game and I'm sure folks this is something that you are also scratching your heads about in your justice confused about the decision-making here Chris and I are justice confused and also a little bit disappointed in decision making because basically in this final four minutes what happened is the giants got the ball back down three points then failed to move do you can hear all that more if you subscribe to the wherever you get your podcast bluff Rita listen and join us so again subscribe to the virtuous wherever you get your podcast we'll see there the ball after a first down calling draw play on a third and long only getting three yards and then in fourth in long fumbling it I talked to influential people around the world attack like Microsoft founder Bill Gates and other tech exactly founder of lime scooters the CEO beyond meat we've also been talking a lot of reporters and academics at the Hey I'm the editor in chief verge host of the verge cast we even revamping the more and more lately in coming out with episodes twice a week sometimes even at third bonus episode on Tuesdays however we have a rookie kick returner and he runs up and then backwards for a loss about a believed to the twelve yard I making it eighty it says here in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean is this all already sport every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable maybe I should and then every Friday I sit down with executive editor bone Paul Miller for chat show we cover the latest in Tech News and product reviews our other reporters around the verge that show is party listen this was a very very questionable drive after I just basically highlighted everything is there anything that you think could have been done better the Arizona cardinals now most people would assume they would have been out of it in giving the ball to the cardinals in giants territory but they were able to hold them to a field goal force Kyle Marie run out of bounds and making a very dumb rookie mistake and kick a field goal plenty of time to get down the field with no timeouts left with over two minutes earlier in the game and even before that he didn't have the kind of spring and twitch an explosion that we really have come to expect from him the decisions you would expect from Clip Kingsbury a rookie head coach Guy who is just coaching his seventh game in the NFL Pat Shurmur has been in the NFL for forever the arts and move the ball and from there it was just horrendous pass protection in teeing off on Daniel Jones that drive ended very very poorly Chris setting yourself up with fourth in fifteen from your own thirty yard line that is not a high probably eighteen especially with saquon Barkley I think not looking one hundred percent supposedly healthy but we saw him hobble off early so it's a situation where you can win the game they managed to throw all of those opportunities away twice not once but on through these trials in these situations is already cut his teeth he's learned from his mistakes already at least that's supposed to be the idea it was just so I think most of it could be done better you could start by calling a draw play on third liddy situation for your offense especially with those conditions and it being absolutely a passing situation Arizona knew what was coming these are the kind Weiss with plenty of time to work and move down the field efficiently one of my favorite phrases and you'll probably hear me say it a lot as productive as on offense they wanted to be an also as strong on defense is that they that they would have hoped to despite doing what they were able to do against aches that happened and I think about where the giants were before these final four minutes hit down by three points was reasonable you would have hoped that they'd be up at that point but still is proper preparation prevents poor performance it looked like they went out there and both instances without a plan looked like they came out with really so just the draw play was a curious will say it to put things mildly politely decision and then well maybe not that long but he's been in the NFL for a long time this is his second head coaching stop he was hired to be the adult in the room the guy who has already gone much of sloppy sequence from the from both teams but especially from the giants because of what you would expect from the veteran head coach that out all the turnovers
 Instant Reaction: Bucs fall to the Saints
"Condemn water on the Goddamn Huddle I'll tell you when you get a Water Break Observer Asa Rob Phillips Malet October six two thousand nine hundred four day votes history on on loss in a lot to learn yeah agreed right so that's going to wrap it up for US till next time get lax challenge this game where we would've won I think maybe offensive line got beat up defensive line could do shit will see on the whole team screw them Chimera had sixty two yards and then Latavius Murray's had twenty eight some hell fourteen bridgewater had eight particularly bad I think that they just played really well executed well Chimera is so wildly I didn't think we'd have a problem with him he thought we and then I quit after the second half he did a few times for a positive yard end of yards I think yeah there's a lot of stuff you can pull negatives out of this I would go with the defensive line they just didn't get to push they needed teddy and I call him teddy 'cause we're best friends ah fuck man are really one of this division title I wanted I now now we drop down to third in the division New Orleans foreign one A and we did he's hearted tackle extremely and even when you get him by the ankle he'll get out of that so there were a few of those ramped up and L. Manhandled the pass rush not even a factor and that's why the secondary having such a hard time Miss Nelson Zero Zilch but team and like you said in the preview to this game it was gonna come down to the pass rush on both teams in their offense of lines totally nullified ours we didn't they didn't give us time to physical yeah they play more yes exactly we are too busy chasing after the play they've robbed us of the and I hate to say that due to man fuck this age they just if you're a saints Fan Right now Kiswah but there's such a well rounded it's a carry rushing here's what we didn't do we didn't leave a big busted plays on defense Russia I can't remember but they weren't line of three and two to three Atlanta lost today I think Houston put up for fifty three points yeah oh Eva's they were just felt like they were more physical they wanted it more or go with the but can we also talk about the help they had from the rats and plus you know regression to the mean is gonNA break the sack record still no we just got to say that a New Orleans offense line is really really good all twenty two that's how it pans out but I think that's how it's going to be this saints I just felt like it was well executed they're very well oiled machine a live this hurts hurts you know I had rose colored glasses on buccaneers colored glasses on we just weren't as competitive then he get those extra five yards of the three yards five yards they as a whole have more than one hundred yards rushing and they've got to backup quarterbacks that are better than any quarterbacks in the league just about thorough there and their office of line beat up our defense hey I'm seeing where flu some clips from the press conference and then the Michael Thomas Pass interference where he clearly Atlanta one in four so we're Thurn and that we've as Carolina next week in England we're GONNA call this I don't think that we play did with you about that it was I said it wasn't it was a little bit he did scramble there were times I saw where I was like what are you doing Winston New York I can't remember his name Pam McCaffrey just crap all over this guy talking about how he was against the the rule change he did not want is Bona. I'm just saying what what safeguards do we have in place to make sure referees do not tilt games what do we have salon which we've got I mean they're defensive line last week beat the crap out of Dallas is one of the best offense lines in the league I saw ejecting Davis that was so ridiculous flag him fine I don't even understand what rules they have replay for the pass interference so what is he is he an official he's like the head of officiating or something I don't know I don't know but he's in charge of that and he doesn't it's okay during the game is but then at the end of it you're like yeah okay I'm over here crying I just feel like the better team won but then at Jackson what's I mean that was a media basically their first possession burst yeah and then about the objections like when is it enough for an injection and when is it not they can just object somebody it's it's completely arbitrary player I don't understand like you you want to see him have the ball he's in the pile with the ball comes out with the girls out with the ball be a is the better team and let's say that New Orleans is a really tough place to play they have great fan turnout annoy was loud in there their defensive line beat up our offense wasn't that bad days Saxon Dak Prescott last week five times they sacked James Six ola instituted in the league so clearly they have some pools and their fan base in particular I mean they sued over those they took it to court was interfering oh yeah yeah he pushed off but Bam McCaffrey has greats clip from his podcast where he talks about the rap there's one Rafi seven on five Russian five carries yeah and take junior one for the yard so they had one hundred twelve yards they averaged three point six and they're intimidating there's a whole contingent of fans that drafts dress like the referees because of that call too like Moxham I don't understand that we've talked to about this they developed a a victim what's it called where agreements industry they develop the saints fans have built a grievance industry on one missed call on the refs the refs down where they've been dominating for ten years the probably have a list of what refs where they live sat in this ugly game on both sides uglier for them feel like for pass rush would have been on it would have been ugly mountain shack bird was gone but you kind of expected yeah teams catch onto it and then realize that they've got neutralize them we I don't know and to me it's clear and obvious that New Orleans saints made a big deal after the championship game with Nakal I mean they got a new talk about near fans show up let's make this whole field advantage and you gotta look at it in some perspective the Dallas Cowboys only put up ten points again it's not like he has a history in hits like this no right yeah I'm in that was a one hit and you win okay yeah flag for it was early on the ball where they fumbled the hydrate yeah in there like every there's no return crap unless you Cincinnati Bangles apparently because the only team in the league that didn't vote for the pass interference replay challenge dono the Bushes Suzy's so I think the refs definitely swayed game but I'm GonNa give credit to the Orleans they beat us I think sent to I call I'm sure I think there was an m. f. r. in there and you just showed his notices forehead but plus you've got to consider it was peyton manning or not paying manning was kid coach's name that idiot going against listen it hurts our confidence but as a fan base man we gotta stand out we got London coming up I know Marin the whole EU has got to me it's it looks like your on the side of the referees. I mean when you wear the referees jerseys hurt the flags so I'm not that concerned with the performance of any unit really the secondary but the pass rush didn't help him Louis ended the game only down by one so that one kind of garbage time touchdown but it does have the scores it doesn't look as bad as it was according to Tom Passenger Hey it's a long long long season Wurley or quarter of the way through and we're doing good and we always played them tough it's always a tough game one wizened and have no time to throw that's not true there was like five plays where he had like eight seconds he had Mike Evans was targeted three times zero catch it the last five minutes from from everything we've heard give Byron and by the last five minutes we were down two touchdowns and Komo all day and the wizard in anytime in the bone now he was and he was happy little bit I say that because I bove without being us before the game he should've worked run and the delivery his know how man's after that oft technically we're getting were on the the two starting stretch of art drilling crappy schedule now we're going to London craft callers yeah gonNA spend the next five years trying to make up for that call because every time they missed one against New Orleans that's all we're going to talk in here about the barrel left which first year call really so you know we'll say that too said do you think it would have been different if Collin planes he only steps well that last one came in garbage time go so told his daughter I can't we're having a hard time focusing because we have the Dallas Green Bay Gable here's that is what you WanNa do you WanNa get that onsides kick you don't want a scoop and score defense he wanna go that onsides what the so you go in you you're a referee you see that you're like Oh yeah I want these people they're good people in a swathe things their way plus you feel obligated because they are really good too and we're right there were right there it was a bad name for us but it wasn't a bad game that we've seen in the past the other this was a tough game we played in probably five years with them where they I felt like they control the game all her and it was really about physicality She started singing that there you go but instead she was saying potato potato and like Dan yes that's a first Godwin had nine targets seven receptions a hundred and twenty five yards two touchdown wow I did not even notice that the darker we couldn't do anything they contain lately do you gotta give him props to employ offensive line yeah I can't wait to see the game film see how the Doc means how was I got a job now to well I'm sure everyone that jumped on the bucks hype train is really regretting it
Hour 1: Tank Formation
"If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero. In on your short list of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash get up it is time to get up would that terrible towel which suddenly quite some terrible I'll tell you why in six days and two and one since twenty eighteen when connor has over seventy scrimmage yards and just one in six when he is under so Dan Grazziano let's start X. Ray revealed a fracture so I think it's possible he has to miss them practice time on a short week but I think there's some optimism that he might be able to play against the colts on Sunday Fitzpatrick second interception of the game how about this catch by Juju the young star good to see him showing up on a Monday night law game inside fade I'd expect to see I feeler team that I'm about to make an argument still has a lot to play for what are we hearing about James Connor relatively positive news it sounds like the diagnosis is better than if one else covers and then you give the opposing team to steelers and incredibly easy touchdown we will talk much more about this in a moment meanwhile fourteen ten at the half and after get into the end zone dolphins for drip the fear naught dolphins would manage to wrangle defeat from the jaws of victory leaves there in the final few minutes with an AC joint injury did not look good we'll get the latest on that in just a moment meanwhile the latest from Pittsburgh is reasonable we have put together here and Jess Mendoza will be along as well Jalen we'll be along as well so we're jam packed well let's start with the Monday night football game last night in Pittsburgh because while it wasn't this next Monday night on a rainy moss you got moss segment incredible effort by juju seventeen on answering for the steelers so now they're ahead and then why not give it to you really good now here's the concern the steelers try to work their way back into a playoff picture connor is the big question mark the impact cannot be overstated steelers are ten at this desk about how the division never ran away from the browns so they still have hope well the division never ran away from the steelers either they are right now sitting at three and five grass Yano with here he's got all the details and oh no Oh del he's not happy and his coach doesn't WanNa hear it is the explosion we've all been waiting for the sexiest matchup of all time there was a lot of injury Mason Rudolph back for Mike Tomlin's team that tanking dolphins are there Rudolph is most definitely not better the steelers this meanwhile would be the way the dolphins would cash in Albert Wilson in motion and get the touchdown nice use of the most against man coverage little pick rub early around the corner blinds for that and more it's Tuesday and we're ready to get up from New York look at this array this assembly of Acumen second quarter dolphins up fourteen three America hit him in a bad spot right between the numbers in tips in the NFL bt's interceptions falls right into Mika Fitzpatrick's laugh one make sure he gets that ball over the goal line often coming back because they're not trying but there was one bad moment here for James Connor at the end he had twenty three carries for one hundred forty five yards they are only two games out of first in the division and the Ravens lead that division play New England this week I'm sitting here telling you that next Monday morning the steelers are going to be see how the week goes for that shapes up to be very big game so I do have to make a case to here I'm a lawyer and and and you're the skeptical Judge Okay we have talked at length we start for the dolphins in their offense seven nothing and then wait the dolphins get the ball back again and now it's Alan Hunte are you kidding me and now it's the zone despite him up in between the linebackers in a fight your horse to put this one away when you need a James Kinda right up the middle really nice job is seen the double team and then a cutback and that contact balanced finish puts his hand on the ground shoe he'd have against his former team and then here's the play everyone is talking I think our colleague Munich himes deem Vista Best it's called the tank pressure where everyone blitzes and would never date this is his first fast yeah he's seen hanging in the pocket so long waiting waiting you are in the pocket and that long boss to become checked down that is not a good I'm game out of first in the AFC North Oh that's what I'd say that listen I know everybody's excited let's not forget it was the damn dolphins I number one number two is positioning because of how abysmal this conference has been this has been so the steelers a sitting there you know what I saw last night though assault Mason Rudolph miss a lot of passes I saw him hanging in the pocket and I'm thinking to myself if the dolphins had any pass rusher they mason Rudolph Tin CBS last night this team had a great night against a terrible team tanking put chains young as opposed to and then when you start job of describing this defense I feel like I don't need to do any breakdowns on get up anymore because Meena has stolen the show I mean this is the tank version of we're that I think that was necessary to say because this is something that I think people have to be taken into account when they're looking at what they're seeing out there on the field I think that was the point that was worth Muesli I've never seen anything that structurally it I know wound on purpose no way unless you're trying to get the first big drought right here because let's make it clear we talk all the time about how organizations tank but players and coaches don't that is a defense on that play that is inexcusable right there was no other the throat short and then everyone rally and tackle I've never seen this yet and this was a big moment like the game was still in play here right before the half eight a rare trade with their rival jets for defense of Linemen Leonard Williams the jets will receive a third round pick in two thousand twenty a fifth rounder in twenty bengals receiver a j green what's the latest everybody would like to know if AJ Greens available because he's the best receiver out there that could be but so far he hasn't played this year and be the all-male again I'm not making an argument they're good I'm making an argument that division might be bad and I misspoke they're not three and five to three and four it's not as bad as that let's quickly though talk about that Washer right when you remember we talked about zero dolphins and I was like Oh man coaches don't tank players know this play when bengals have not wanted to make him available the bengals are not interested in you know I in doing these deadline deals just to amass picks they wanNA keep green on their team and try and win I mean they blitz eight guys and did not cover anyone else into menas point that's why she drew the tank on the field what I've never seen anything like that anymore because the dolphins players know all that's been surrounding the Miami Dolphins as far as what they're trying to do for the future that's that's any time I've ever seen anything remotely close to that it's been a hail Mary situation where you took five guys four guys put them on the goal line and forced the team so far teams such as the Cleveland browns that have called about trend Williams have been told no we don't want to move in but it's felt yesterday like that stance might have been softening a little bit so we'll see what making meanwhile it is an important day across the National Football League L. Let's go to that that's right. NFL Trade deadline four PM Eastern today and yesterday our own Adam Schefter reported that the giants twenty one so let's talk with Dan Razzano Nfl insider and Mike Tannenbaum is here as well I wanna go kind of tape to tape on some other names that are percolating right now let's start with they need a lot of help on the defensive side of the ball they made one trade with the browns yesterday so we'll see if they continue to look for help there in the secondary or maybe even just in defense talking about how Pittsburgh wants to move forward there were some bright spots they're still trying to figure out who can Mason Rudolph G quarterback can they do all this but hale no Geeta most active team today to be it's going to be the Cleveland Browns Baker Mayfield has been sacked three or more times five different games this year their offense align play is happens here again in the next seven hours and fifty one minutes whether they get an offer the convinces them to move Trent Williams or whether they just decide to do it after his team lost a Tennessee Sunday and he had a point late in the fourth quarter an early whistle clearly a terrible call cost Tampa a potential go ahead touchdown fumbled hey to defend it g I played in this league nine years and then my coach called the play like that on twenty five we have in a damn fight on this island I don't believe in that moving of course the big mystery that has been the big mystery in summertime Trent Williams the offensive tackle has not reported doesn't want to play for Washington anymore in the second half you can argue with that strategy if you want but that's where the bengals are at this point if you need a receiver Robbie Anderson from the jets or Rashad Higgins from the browns is more likely covering he's mad referees aren't held accountable coaches fire generators get fire players get cut referees aren't for the sake of being done with the situation okay so that's Naringin on specific names but I want to kind of pose this question to you both from treetops view who do you think is going to be the Oriental Broncos now you're GonNa have a big year but maybe they'll trade him for picks but so far the broncos have been resistant look the deadline is coming up here in what eight hour right so with the NFL Referees Association Seven Year Agreement and it includes a great deal of accountability in terms of they're going to hire someone to oversee so it's more of the same unhelpful complaining stuff that's rooted in falsehood actually I mean he's he's wrong target can imagine people need cornerback help so it's latest on broncos corner crosshairs G Gauge Green another guy in the final year deal you'd think hey the broncos going nowhere people say they're not full-time actually their hours that they have to spend listening to what they did wrong teams can submit all kinds of complaints about them every single week they are accountable wraps we can't stand the reps Dan Grazziano tell everyone why he's dead wrong he's wrong on a number of levels I officials are held accountable right they're subjected to a review process every single week at officials don't often get fired one did last year but it was I sustained poor performance over time not for a bad call and then finally I mean it's not a forty year agreement they just could change but so far if you need a cornerback there are other options like Josh Norman of Washington speaking of Washington Yeah Josh Norman Gray he's available he's got a contract a day we anticipate Greenie let's get to officiating let's go to a fine waiting to happen box head coach Bruce Arians woke up Monday still mad at the officiating Geno because they're getting widow yeah a lot of people thought of missed opportunity to go after Jalen Ramsey they're certainly didn't work out he ended up in L. A. Dan Grazziano Mike Tannenbaum breaking down. What's going to be an actor okay visually that was the thing I need to keep it here nick and I'm sorry nick is not sitting here before all of you at home I'm talking to someone who's not in the conversation but I need another minute the defense and can we put a tweet up let's give credit where credit is to mean a times were they really that that is an outstanding that outstanding accountable they are they make about one thirtieth as much as head coaches do so I don't think it's reasonable to assume the same level of public accountability right yeah coaches get fired I'm like okay I see what this is for real thirty twenty and listen this is what everybody was thinking last night I put I put the same tweet up I was like my really faculties foundational aspects of the officiating being a problem is completely accurate okay they're bad calls goals for years for decades more calls than we've ever ruining their season if I'm John Dorsey I'm considering hey do I give a first round pick to Washington for Trent Williams offensive line helped us not easy to find that's the problem right there and that's a give me put that's like that's almost like let them score so we can get the ball back in score except it's not time to do that yeah that's horrible audible and it's a shame it's a it's been that way for forty years and now that we got a new grim it'll be that way for forty years all right so all of us sitting here cheering we all love it go ahead just crushed the browns need is in short supply around the league so yeah I mean I look at the Philadelphia Eagles they have a they have a little bit of depth there Hala Pool Yvonne de Vita raining program they are going to have a buyout program for older officials they're going to have a three year probationary period for new officials before they fully vest in terms of their benefits but Odell may finally be enough upset about his lack of touches on offense that it's a problem no he had five catches on seven targets for fifty two yards on Sunday the factual stuff okay I hear you with that I these coaches getting fired because the losses players get cut because losses last year I've talked about dooms the trade McCarty did do I would I would go trae if unclear if if Howard and I'm looking at US call this defense right here talked about and all that other than that you know whatever came away pretty much I call it whatever opportunities ahead I made the most of them but you can only control what you can control are held accountable they do move on from them and look from a team standpoint yeah we all want to see what Bruce Arians says but they are held accountable just done in a little bit more of a noble eloquent way okay so he's not happy with the way he's being used at least on Sunday so yesterday they asked his coach Freddie Kitchens what he thought about those comments here's what Freddie said who played left tackle for them in the super bowl a couple years ago right when Jason Peters was hurt he's he's a guy that could move and I think the eagles are a team that could absolutely be very active today the week salary because the rest mater on calling the playoff game like we we understand that Bruce areas is mad we understand that he's saying something that's not there's bad calls there's more flags being thrown we have one hundred twenty six plays game combined teams in the NFL per game we had seventeen I was expecting and looking forward to it but that wasn't the case today we had a couple of plays but you know for whatever reason we didn't do as much challenging his match-ups that we the Banks Dan Quayle team was the rams in saints game a factually messed up in seven balls thrown to him he called five of them I'm not responding that and that's we need to win a football game got it was on pace to be one of the greatest to ever play the position and they want to run the ball so now what happens well I mean I the fifty seven players in the NFL have a higher rate of being targeted Targeted receivers last night we never heard of it the statistics they don't pass the test there are three teams right now I'm sorry the under three teams right now that can unequivocally say that they were absolutely hosed and had a game agree with Dan Danno because the public executions and I've been on the receiving end of those public executions are because these are forward-facing jobs the referee publicly we are going to get back to this and I have a feeling most of the argument will continue in our commercial breaks and I had this morning it's up to week eight imply he is worth the price of admission and he is a brilliantly talented player threat teams depend on throwing the ball to one guy all the time they don't win so I go back and lions and packers game on Monday night factual mess up by Fisher yet so those are facts to be held accountable in their own way we just won't Assez who says statistics how bad calls off his hand saying there are more calls that doesn't mean they're bad what if they're more penalties what are there more rules being it's thrown hurricane that's more than we've ever had out there is breaking the rules it's supposed to flex right yeah I mean it'd be okay will you watch those clips it looks like this is a team that's more comfortable losing forty nine forty seven then winning six to three and that's a problem we were talking about that during the my words a little bit from from mark I don't like this is an issue yet though right now like it's just a reference Bio del saying hey throw me the ball a little bit more got let me get off Baker because this is about Baker bottom line is this they assembled this talent we talked about Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham actually true but what is factually true is wisdom losses cost you your job and we're reps cost it when a ref call a win and they calls your job restrain offensive snap Baker Mayfield threw a shovel pass to a defensive Lineman I mean there's a lot of going bad things going on there so I think Freddie's like enough don't pile what if we petty petty did we stay rather we deal you told us it was coming this inevitable one hundred million dollars here's what he had to say after the game I just felt like we didn't we didn't challenge is we could have I think we kind of shied away from it so you said that before the season began the problems are going to come if he's not as involved in the offense as he wants to be on the reality is that guys like Oh look I love watching New York again not happening in New York he was getting the ball everybody in the League is an uber competitor and everybody in the League is fine when they're winning why they're preparation is a sneaky huge story in the NFL this you get us both on ESPN I'm from them because of a new answer but they'll be held accountable they have a new agreement where they'd way they work on training where they make Ziba that's usually get into every ball thrown toward says he entered the League I get in Baltimore Twenty four percent is royalties targeted leaner from the packers they are Aaron Judge Jose Altuve I gotTa tell Mago really well done that was yeah everyone the game bird more than junior who is arguably on pace to be one greatest receivers that ever play we're not talking about a guy that was good we're talking about right but that's no fun tell him how wrong he is right but no that's my out life rooted in fault I mean I just three things he said that were wrong just flat out what I'm worried about so you what are we don't go down y'all go in and have a conversation you know I'm GonNa use els word right now for you with the broncos on Sunday everybody feel better but they definitely need a win and they need to start stacking wins. I play devil's advocate what did Odell Beckham junior just do that's any different than what feeling more like the Google has to say about everything in the national football league all that more you're watching GUETTA ON ESPN thumbs up into pretty kitchens point they did they did from the football seven times down seventeen nothing I'd argue that Odell if you're going to want the ball make the catch like you you want the doc publicly pontificated these roof needs to be talked about it is they need to be held to come disliked blacks more than some people dealers are back in the thick of things why you should be paying attention to a young star in Pittsburgh that's on the way and the saints survived and thrived without drew brees income in our next hour what have we learned in the first half of the NFL season will address that what now for Brian Kelly at Notre Dame after terrible Saturday night and don't Miss What Swag Geico Presents Monster Counseling Dracula tell me how you're feeling no one understands how only these no one will even let me into their house as we may be talking a lot about the Pittsburgh steelers what today is a huge day across the NFL camp down to the trade deadline tunes names in the discussion back on got up at an early candidate for Halloween costume of the year Jimmy Graham getting into the Halloween spirit with an assistant called out their quarterback it was galvanizing like all of a sudden we're like thank goodness they do whatever the difference kirk cousins veteran Baker Mayfield streaking we're seeing what exactly the reality of it is this thing could get really really ugly quickly in Cleveland we're just getting started we're gonNA have to calm everybody down what a difference a game makes when you can't take away from Odell is that he's a Uber competitor he angle you losing am not a part of what we're doing not have he's friends they're going to be fine with how this thing is going away inhale this listen we also said that would be fine if they want you can't the one then that look at that look at the actual photo look well they did that so well I thought it was to know who thought of it I who put it hi Dan goes down to go back and find me the championship team with a guy like that and I think you know Freddie Kitchens point here is like we got a lot of problems I mean like we we have to score Nick Chubb fumbled the ball twice they turned it over on these guys are trained better where they're monitored more closely where they where they age out the older ones when when they didn't use to I mean it is being addressed on your but you also dropped playing against the bachelor but the ball he tune hands like if you're going to demand the football more catch it that would be my reply to it gather who thought of it who got the stuff I need to know all you guys out there with the play pro ball look at how to play out this bill that's it still phil might feel are the greatest thing since like bread so points not quarter by according to all the pundits coming into the season he posted knock knock but they ignore me what else I look in the mirror and don't even see myself anymore if you don't yourself clearly can you really expect others to I'm having a breakthrough it's not easy to be a vampire but with gyco it's super easy to switch and save hundreds on your car that's not what we did very Joe Flacco S. regard very good get to the Super Bowl is obviously going to be a lot more complicated for an NFC team it would feel like then for an AFC team so with us being basically the midway point we wanted to get a primary his New England a thirty eight percent chance next closest the forty niners but you see the reason for that the NFC is so much stronger the path first half take away from each of our folks are up on the set and let's start you with our Lobski what is your first half biggest takeaway don't overlook the offense close some games the year before we were ranked I believe number three in the country there is no way that team could lose to Michigan and they beat US zip line we want to talk about why Baker Mayfield getting murdered every week because the Cleveland browns overlook the offensive and how important it was and so he's playing under duress every has the most such games before his twenty third birthday ever you see who previously had that record there's Randy Moss says Odell and now it has juju on top and and sort of ruin our season so we go into our senior year there was no doubt in my mind that we were winning this game I'll never we are back on get up Dolphin steelers Monday night football last night if you missed it quick look back like second quarter steelers down it came across on the shallow cross and I just remember I caught the ball at five but I probably landed Atlanta's firms he hit me fourteen without their triple B.'s big-band Brown and Bell it has been Juju Smith Schuster who is quietly taking control of the offense another hundred yard game yesterday he ballgame we beat Michigan twenty two six finally I'm going to get a pair of pants so hard by the time I land it was almost like I was on a trampoline I bounced up so fast to let him know that he's not going to stop us we're GonNa win this in total defense allowing fewer than two hundred twenty five yards a game all swear in the NFC the packers off to their best start since twenty eleven Matt Leflore has an bounce of yardage between a defender and a receiver and then had terrible effort trying to make a tackle kind of embarrassing for the dolphins embarrassing is one scene three the dolphins flat out don't try to stop them on this play the tank pressure meaning we're trying to get the first pick of the draft we will everybody cover nobody leaving bridgewater went five and now in his absence so the question is who is the favourite to win the super bowl right now according to our football power index well by a wide margin the answer of that list okay let's go around the League week nine is upon us we are basically the midway point of the NFL season and look at some of the big teams in the League the Patriots the only teams single week and just taking hit after hit and everyone wants to remind everybody that Aaron Rodgers the greatest quarterback in the NFL why because they paid attention to their offensive line drive the offense Aaron Rodgers ranked second league in passing yards and touchdowns and the saints are also seven and one white playing so many games without drew brees teddy because they overlooked their offensive line and now we're no longer nearly explosive as they used to Andrew lucked retired a week before the season the colts Edmund Bahraini going up over defender fighting for the football carrying it into the end zone security catch great play by Doodoo steelers come from fourteen down they win at twenty seven since the merger to lead the League in points allowed takeaways and sacks through eight games meanwhile the niners seven hundred for the first time since one thousand nine hundred ninety actually leading the NFL disgraceful potentially another meanwhile steelers driving late in the third same scores second down to the Dolphin Twenty six to June Smith Schuster give me that that's going to be on a you got moss invested into a draft pick and now they have one of the best offensive lines in football and the team that played in the NFC or represented the NFC and the Super Bowl last year no talking about the rams why the career of a guy who might have been one of the all time greats okay so there's one so what is your primary first-half take away the running back position is not dead attention to their offensive line and it paid dividends and the reason that Andrew Luck retired is because for so long they didn't pay attention so they're offensive line and they wasted if you will um I enlisted there are guys impacting football games from the backfield not only Christian McCaffrey and Aaron Jones and we'll talk about the guys that are is that changing yes and to swag point you look at guys like Christian McCaffrey Galvin cooked transformational players so yes that position is evolving the question however is the school let's do it college football Michigan bludgeoned Notre Dame for three hundred three yards on the ground and a forty five fourteen route on Saturday in Ann Arbor offers perspective is the way people view the running back position changing for the longest time there at felt like those were just interchangeable parts get one you get another this one gets hurt we get another guy don't use a high draft pick go and play in Frank Reich system right away Kyle Allen's a guy that Carolina had had put some resources into they were invested in him so I find that bridgewater a little different cases great job of addressing opposition to Kober set is a good starting NFL quarterback you look at the New Orleans saints five hundred with Teddy Bridgewater he made a lot of money he's great he's never going to win a national championship and the wise move l. for Notre Dame is to buy offended they're using them so many ways now right this this unconventional thought of running backs being their usage in the legs and all of that now a starter kit for him you take a look at the rest of the schedule for Notre Dame they could certainly turn things around and potentially make a new year six pole and that's because they're heading favorites and every one of the remaining schedules oh he was in New Orleans all last year as well so not only just you know go find a good backup quarterback but almost in some ways to make sure you make one and then every once in a while you get super lucky is conventional turnaround and hand the ball off their catch passes out of the backfield they're implemented into the game now you look at what's Shanahan is doing mm-hmm well you take a look at that and you see why I'm just saying it's not great Paul Finebaum what do you make of Brian Kelly and Notre Dame McCaffrey and the other you've made the suggestion before you take that running back in the first second round and you get the best years of their career cost thirty it makes a lot of sense but y'all go ahead are doing the things that I love but look San Francisco as well and they're skiing Dalvin Cook obviously here you think about these guys that are making the impact on their team and it's not just talking to their GM last week Mardi her about the idea of that backup quarterback position and he said you know the studies are showing them that developing your own is the way to go right so jacoby percent was ready evolving a little bit like the tight end position involve overtime all right Mike what is your primary first-half take away the value of copying depth of a quarterback position and thirteen years ago Florida got him instead a lot of reasons why that may have happened but Notre Dame is a national championship caliber program but Brian. Kelly is not a national Gardner Minzhu winds up being on your bench when you desperately need him and the next thing you know everyone into the football world is wearing a mustache been that's our pro story for the moment Brian Kelly out and bring in urban Meyer Urban Meyer's the best available coaching the country he wanted to go to Notre Dame goes to the Indianapolis Colts you're next on the New Orleans saints you look at the law firm of Brusett and bridgewater those are two teams that are still alive because they've done Ludi of it is what we talk about quarterbacks can't let them get hit that many times Cam Newton people like that they start wearing down that's going to happen to two guys like Delvin Cook and Christian San Francisco Oh everybody's spread the ball out let's throw it fifty times a game we go down we go see if you buckle up and stop us quick from toting the nineteen from unless you're a notre dame person a legacy why would you go there why would you play for Brian Kelly and be good not great when you can go to Clinton Alabama and imagine all the points on on Saturday night and he on top of all that Marcus he's he's not a coach that is going to be speech my Brian Kelly this is different we're going to change the culture here we're going to do things different and then he gets blown out by Clemson there's no faith I mean if you're a recruit out there and makes me laugh every single time we go through the world of sports we hear what people say and then we'll see what swag says we start with the browns they felt it camping trip caliber coach he lost by Twenty eight in the National Championship game he lost by twenty seven last year to Clemson he's inexplicably lost to Notre Dame by eight thousand struggle non discipline guys not being focused on doing their job starts first and foremost with me via leader every single down on your way more with Paul coming up in just a bit but still ahead here on get up Mitch much has been made rather about the poor play of Mitch so for at least one week the pressure and scrutiny shifted away from Jim Harbaugh and we're really back onto the original Jim Harbaugh Brian Kelly let's be honest in Carlisle's kind of it agate to bring in great players I mean I'm so much bigger than you sitting in this seat by the way this is a beautiful but when you give it takes like that you raise is way above me but but you have a point right what what was the conversation the compensates a revolving around Brian Kelly was the same one revolving around Harbaugh can't win and five after a bad loss to the patriots Sunday featuring usual sloppiness thirteen penalties three turnovers here was Baker Mayfield after the game on the browns this is an Alabama like Notre Dame's notorious for losing the big game of you or Brian Kelly Dodd Beer but don't forget three years ago after he had a losing season we heard that impassioned nine ten games it's the one you win or the important ones if we have on the show up twice one in the College Football playoff national championship and they ended up being beat like that position himself to be an unrestricted free agent and he'll do well in the market Dan Graziano let's talk about those quarterback injured I'll add Carolina right kyle and they won four straight games with him after Cam Newton got hurt Baker Mayfield I am so glad to hear you say that this is a guy who has talked a lot about a lot of other yes in this case he talked about himself next stop is the Shawn Watson what does swagger say you know what I say I say day a Jones is a gangster today Angie I'm already a bee's so we look right now I'm with you all right next up on the Broncos they lost a tight game to the colts on Sunday and after the Game Joe flacco sounded all may feel I would love to get you but I'm not because you're right and its own you bake I appreciate you come out of the first step to recovery gene we're going to say I mean the you see Michael Jordan you see you know some of the great athletic players in any sport you gotta tip you're the guy that's what the just GonNa be Beastie I call you broke yes pro you crash this is not exactly how I meant for this to go and smoke it it was in the playoffs last year so his show cops football is turning into where like where are you headed has more to do with we in Denver elway supposed to be all the right calls we are terrible especially at the quarterback position. I think I'm quarterback number nineteen and he's on the offensive game plan we're now two and six football team and we're like afraid to go for a two minute drill you know like who cares if you give the ball back to the it would absolutely positively you'd be wrong for the bears is with a minute forty seconds left they obviously got the feel anyway and once again we're a two hundred six football team and it just feels like we're kind of afraid to lose a game I said we pointed out the problem that we have to execute on Sundays once again I feel like we had a great week of practice we just didn't translate it that's what Baker said what the swagger say I've stayed Baker you say what a swagger say I I know Mike Tyson play football second this show Watson is the goal he can play bland everything matter of fact that's a prerequisite now if you ain't bland and play embolic now we can consider period remember what my joint closes is this season minus plan bland g he did it finally did it. There's there's hope that the goal can actually play without seeing go right and these these type of programs this is a different position they're these type of programs are predicated on winning big games everybody talks about all suffered a neck injury during a post game press conference L. if you would please he's potentially how could go down center
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10/22/19 AI Bias; Data Analysis Wins; The Good and the Bad of AI
"Welcome back to the Peggy Smedley show the podcasting voice of Ot and digital transformation. Hello and welcome back to the Peggy Smedley show today I am joined by two guests in my first guest has been with his company for more than taste for business say can compensate participation businesses are subject to credit approval not all clients are eligible for next business day funding and additional terms conditions and restrictions apply sensor technology with predictive analytics to measure and manage concrete and transit. Please welcome back to the show Susan Dalton Vice Presidents Smart Technology surrounding I'm Gonna I'm GonNa hold the analyst feet to the fire hair because they try to help the consuming public the businesses understand what it means of activity in banks with fraud detection but in reality almost everyone on the research side of our world little bit more confusing for people to understand what this all means you know it might but I think it's really helpful for people to recognize the show thanks Peggy how are you today I am great mark you there I'm here so let's talk about that part of it because I think that's where I find very interesting when we talk about the terms around what is targeted advertising and social media we see that when you go on Amazon to buy something and it makes suggestions to you will see a lot lose reporting that data is actually not being used anywhere close to its potential in fact studies range from about one half of one percent and when we start using a lot of terms I think sometimes we muddy the waters when we use the acronyms and now we're calling dark data and does that start making a list oxide of getting his name on several patents my next guest who's joining him has led the creation of a new category specialty construction industry that combines data really making a difference just data in general when we think about what's happening in our society general maybe more specifically in construction correct great well I'm glad that you guys are joining me too let's let's talk since the last time we had you on the show there's a lot of things happening the construction VAT collecting data for the sake of collecting data provides no purpose and does not benefit us either in productivity companies but give me a bigger view of your thoughts on how a really getting companies and organizations to understand what's happening and how it's changing our world industry as I like to say is getting more and more involved in big data and what's happening in it and I'd love Susan let's start with you you know how is big onto ten percent of data collected today is actually used and so companies like Gartner our digital universe doing studying IDC the data because it's been around for you know as far as I can think you know we've been talking about it for a couple of decades now data and big data and now you said dark data all shows that big data really isn't used anywhere close to as much as we might think so ninety percent of the data that's sitting out there is well I think that big data is influencing us all from a consumer point of view and from a retail point of view quite a bit and we see that with there's been such a drive to collect data but without doing something without data it doesn't really serve a purpose and so as a as a corporate and but what you guys did you know when I spent time at at your facility you guys understand how to apply data more so than I think a lot of organizations and technology Jeez and I'm not and Mark Roberts Director of verify research and development both with GCP apply technologies Susana mark welcomed so when people think about that dark data or whatever is part of the problem because people don't understand the difference between big data and data and we talked acted in stored but it's not been productized it's not been commercialized and has no use whatsoever we've heard of that is dark data of our commercial settings or in terms of society and so one of the things that's interesting to both mark and me over the fifteen years past fifteen years listen or no hearing people saying we're we're going to collect data or we have a lot of data if you're not doing anything with that data it's not important to us and bats a question than finding a purpose for the data you know this is what I tell people if you just gathered data and Susan you just said that for the purpose of gathering data not under standing is doesn't help but you need just collecting it was we all agree isn't but understanding why you're collecting it and you guys have I like to say it's a war Roman mark data is it's all the data is collected and no one's executing against that data to know defined a purpose for it mark let me ask you you know you got monitors everywhere you're helping your customers understand the data that's being collected why is understanding the right data and capturing it I mean that's historically we want to understand the historical side of things we wanna make future predictive analytics kind of things those are things that matter but how do we get customers to understand customer understand the value of technology I mean that's what you get how does it help them when they're looking at this information because right now we WANNA capture information your name on a lot of patents because you understand where data's important why it's valuable that's how you create products and bring product to market because you're able to understand and when they have this information they actually can predict trends so I I like to call that context it really is you need to understand your is the data wins the day so when you're doing that kind of analytics and you're looking at how in this case XS or wise move together so how the foreword about how I can use them to make my business work better or in our case to make concrete work better etc affects caused this thing to happen or the other way around that gives you the ability to St what is happening in your system and when you can see what's happening in your city has the construction industry has it disrupted our construction industry I mean the way we expected because if you talk about correlation and causation in your data knowing the data it when we talk about just in concrete because that's the foundation no pun intended for everything we do if we want to say that's very important because the construction industry is Kinda stuck again I keep using a lot of puns here their stock in the way they've always done things and we l. let us to drive those decisions so you can start to say okay now I'm going to use this these really interesting tools to move my knowledge we build things and we still are late and getting our projects done but we have the information to make us do things better faster quicker but we still are always late and getting for a long time the the building still being put up we're still making you know still putting the road down as we have for a long time because the the model that the people or does one actually drive the other when you can understand the data at the intimate level then you start to use the large tools that are being created out there invaded tim you can you can start to prod you can say well what happens is it causation or correlation is it they just moved together these two facts they moved together well who are building off of intellectual model says this is how it gets done that are not looking or using data to go find new ways to do it also data not just collected it's we have a saying that we pass around the office which is it it it used to be owned the data wins the day it's really he who important but equally is important well that's step one step two is what mark talked about which is context understanding your talk about technologies have we seen the birth of new technologies that are changing the way construction can do things better because then you won't be able to understand it so you have to break down those silos and or just have the tools to make it work and we're not an industry inside out and backwards and being able to transform that senseless data into actionable data that people can do something with and they the data isn't silos and lots of times so there's no way of crossing any any data to itself so if you have a silo of information on finance and the last decade we and I'll give you one that I think we've we've had for two decades I mean in the early sixties it was introduced was going to go back to your dark data comment is that what's required to leverage big data is getting out of the silos is being able to large part historically so you can look back and say oh only if this had happened but we not only have to get the data into a single place and silo of information about your supply chain and you don't have any crosses in between those two things to give you leverage to figure out what X. causes what why the move see the information to be able to do things better is that we have to do to be able to do things to make more prophets I you know to be more mm-hmm building information modeling and only now are we seeing this as a collaboration tool that's more than just modeling and we're able to actually leverage it but still construction that have really been able to support the use of them I mean big a big data excuse me that has really made a difference that we can say is and get in context and make it actionable we have to provide it in in a timely fashion so that a decision maker can actually make a decision on occasion changing how they view anticipate and predict and use that in real time so that they can do things that will enable them to do things make a difference on a construction site in a timely fashion so I think one other thing we've seen over the past ten years with big data is it was used it offered to bowl in construction well I think that's certainly one thing getting it out of the silos and getting into a single place is really these are not understanding the power of them are there other technologies that have been introduced in the last decade. Let's just even say the last ten years our projects dot because because data is a data analytics especially is not what we have done for a living new machine learning techniques that we've had the rise of you know random forest an all these very very entertaining Predictive analytic tools that can actually somewhere you can you can download and you can actually start to learn very quickly have actually make powerful powerful predictive analytics using them so to me that is the biggest like magic and there's been a lot of really interesting articles even cartoons saying like data plus a equals magic destruction sites and to actually make a difference and I think that's sort of brings it from one end to the other of all the things that have to happen that helps us to make the next generation of the software the hardware even better so those are the kind of like it's really just using the tools that were photographs and then analyze those photographs on the fly I think that that would be really important in terms of the building phase of construction developed for other places like you know python and all these were not developed for the construction industry but they're really powerful and if we turn those towards to be used for ongoing operations of the building so repair and maintenance and also environmental impact that as we put more can happen when and so they easy example is having sensors look at a concrete floor and determine when flooring see that as a doctor those tools very quickly so is that what is required you know when we talk and Susan maybe you can chime in here as well when we talk about leverage one is during the bill cycle of putting sensors in place VAT will facilitate the construction companies understanding of what can be put on top of it because of hydration but I also think that we'll be seeing more and more sensors go in place during the build cycle I think technologies that are going to impact us in the in the construction industry I think to other technologies we would be remissed but what it really is is just tools in the hands of of analysts giving them the ability to gain insights those are the for me when you talk about new technologies from the office to the job site to hand off in or to the field and on a building a road whatever that might be look back at what Susan was talking about Oh about yesterday and then be able to predict what's going to happen tomorrow it's been those tools are they they seem like to analyze data I think drones in terms of ongoing construction and using drones to collect data collection sensors in during construction over the next decade or two decades it's a building is in place we'll be able to pull data off those sensors to tell us bring up that are going to impact one is drones and the other sensors so in terms of collecting massive amounts of data and finding ways I change on the construction sites you know they've been showing like you said the been has all of this data that we've been able to collect that allows for him oh I think that that's that's sort of step two and then step three is exposing and delivering that actionable data to a person who can actually you as a company have been able to do with verify marker Susan go ahead construction in the next decade automated reality is also going to come into play soon we being construction site Olympics to measure and manage the concrete and transit so we're able to do is for every individual load of calm are there leaks anywhere is there any problem with mold anywhere and I think that those two things were going to see impact sort of how we do business and on this site there's it will come to the point where you'll be able to look at a at a Structure in front of you know whether the plans are matching that structure artistry we can make great changes walk us now I go ahead I'm sorry Susan I was just going to add to other things in terms of what verify does it really it really provides a really great way of doing things in the in the concrete world walk our listeners through one of the things that I'm the most proud of and I I know I speak for mark as well is that with verify we collect millions of data oh you so verify is a a sensors that is deployed on a ready mix truck at individual load of concrete for the customer and we are able to with our sensors determine the concrete slump which is used for specification inspect so some of the things that we look at during the course of the delivery cycle or the drum speed and the number of revolutions together and the number of high-speed revolutions again reducing the the impact on our environment and so while we and then the one other thing that I really think we're going to see a lot of in the next decade that I do think it's going to impact us as sensors and so I think there's two major impacts on sensors has been added and while it's exciting to be able to deliver concrete on Spec to the job site on time I have to say that and if it goes out of SPEC we correct on the fly by adding chemicals or water so that the concrete arise on the job site focus very much on delivering high quality concrete and improving productivity of our customers were really proud of the impact we have on sustainability around Alexa we can't we have never done before and starting here at verify we were collecting millions of data points a day on how the concrete is being delivered and those sensors collect data real time off of the truck when it's delivering concrete and we use that data in conjunction with predictive since the truck has been loaded we look at the concrete temperature and we look at issues around driver behavior in terms of whether or not either chemical or water longterm which is has to have a dramatic impact in the way you communicate with companies right now absolutely it does increase it goes out on a truck we know what's in that load and we know the specification X. in in in other words we know what was ordered on that stewards of of our environment in stores of what they do and they care about how we can improve the environment and so no one of the things I think that I think that the the industry the construction industry but I will say particularly the concrete industry really are we've looked at is across all of our customers how many of them have an initiative around the environment I mean a big corporate initially not only using big data or we're finding real time to save you money and time and waste with what you're doing on your jobs but we're also impacting the environment save money but WANNA say that they're influencing the environment sustainability wise how has that impacted when you talk to construction companies that say look handbuilt dude we're seeing in training augmented reality and we're seeing a lot of different ways right absolutely and even even around sustainability and around improving how we impact you know the the global environment and it's it's a very I guess points and we're able to conduct analytics on that data and provide actionable information back to our customers that enables them to reduce material which is a big co two contributor and also reduce both a number of revolutions all shen for both predictability but the sustainability side of this is powerful because that's a huge impact for a lot of construction companies who are not only just trying to warming is the right word so many of them do and so many of them care deeply about this and so we're seeing more and more interest in the actionable data to improve sustainability the one other thing is worth mentioning is safety and on the job safety and so we have one of the things that marked we provide around reduction in some tissues material and reduction in revolutions and how those impacting environment we are now working on struck in conjunction with with the RPM and finding friends in data to say these are situations focus in a strong involvement in wanting to know what we're doing around sustainability and what we're doing around safety not just what we're doing around productivity there's not one person waving a flag but how many of our customers how many ready mix producers in North America have full-fledged corporate initiative improving operational efficiency talk to me about that there's there's a new chemical that we've been working on it's actually what is that show at exactly what that impact can be and how we can all work together to reduce co two emission. So I think we're definitely seeing Mark Mark Mark you take the biggest advancements we've had in and data is he will answer Mitt to looking at that when we talk about not only using big data right now you're actually leveraging information and been is is finding a lot of ways of doing that and saving in the way we do things in consolidating with a are I think it is a big area that for our listeners who don't know drivers and so no I think that these are for me especially having watched the industry for a while we see a a stronger contractor over ordered so they thought they had fifty yards but they only had forty five yards needed so that five yards back so the the team's been able to do around analytics is defined situations impact safety and a really easy example would be the speed of a ready mix and I hope it's I hope it's something we'll continue to see more of but we definitely see a trend and a commitment of the ready mix industry speed so we look at that one last thing I'll mention about safety is is the reduction in clatter and ladder climbs for the drive those are the technologies that are that are fantastic and they're effectively free technology is now racist Python and and a lot of the programs out there that are free was there you guys did a demonstration for me and I know is pretty impressive with what you're dealing with excess concrete and you were showing me about how you were coming out from from GCP Corinna forty I think so it's not entirely my ex area of expertise but one of the things that the huge equipment and can be broken up with any equipment that's on or in a concrete plant and then that can be used as recycled materials in your mission replant to go to a customer comes back and it comes back and then in the form of unused concrete most of the time that is because the the cost reduction so I don't want you guys to get off the show without talking about this so Markham and a throw your way is you gotTa talk about the reclaimed concrete when when I talked about this before is we have to attract young people into the industry who have been educated in the world of computers who have been born oh stand it replaces both sand and stone so it's a really interesting way basically taking so you're really looking at right now for an industry you're trying to get the industry you're with a dark data they're not familiar with big data with sensor technology with communications protocols I really think the one thing we have to do and not only through schooling but just the education because it's part of society and get people into the industry into big construction firms into ready mix producers understand there's great ways you can use technology you can actually reclaim it you can actually be innovative and looking at dark data I just WANNA quickly we've got about raised with an iphone in their hand we've gotta get more young people into the industry and leverage the education that they're getting today around technology data has shown is there and enter MCA which is the ready makes us National Ready Mix Association has proven out is three to five percents of the concrete that leaves the concrete you can then use that new material it stays as a as a aggregate if he doesn't need to be broken up with it comes out of the truck looking like aggregate that San Antone just purely reduced it takes all of the water out of the up to there's a certain amount of percents that you're allowed to do per the kind of work you're doing but we've seen up to forty percents replacements of aggregate so you do you use it and turn it back into aggregates so they add this chemistry to the the trucks they spend the truck up for a certain amount of time and then they dump it out and as it dumps it's a simple as Alexa play the Peggy Smedley show podcast listen to current and archived shows or let Alexa assist you in subscribe was into all facets of industry and get those people who are comfortable around technology who are comfortable around big data or comfortable around the four eight six eight one three that's one eight five four eight six eight one three high-skill listener this is David Finkel having never miss an episode Alexa. 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Obama's Last Interview
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You can't be so intimidated by the way things have been done you know I I would tell him that you have to spend more time thinking about new remember people got I think that's where the impression arose that now Obama's really spock like because I was talking to in the White House because the communications landscape is shifting and you know when you think about the dilemmas that okay welcome to Pod Save America we are here today in the Roosevelt Room at the White House with President Barack Obama on his his last interview as we were confronting the economy's collapsing were still in two wars I'm always surprised and gratified about go back in time and talk to two thousand nine Obama on his first day in office what piece of advice would you give him right before he walks into the Oval Office thousand nine Obama think about how you got here and spend that same amount of effort and energy touching people direct United States Mr President thank you for joining us it is wonderful to be with you guys let me preface this by saying I cannot believe people actually listened to Lincoln said with public opinion there's nothing you can't do without it there's not much you can do and we were going to get clobbered in to that clea as opposed to standing behind a podium and you know given a bunch of grim yeah lecture rooms featuring yeah yeah and about well today we lost eight hundred thousand jobs but here's what we're GonNa do it it was hard to seem cheerful and their library act is divided how we got I think basic policy right and that was mainly because we just had a lot of really smart people around working really hard and had a good process but musk mainly because he took his more serious anyway what do you got all right let's keep this thing moving doesn't ten probably no matter what we did just because on my watch people really hurting but I think that I might have said to me special interview as President the team is supported and encouraged and you're paying attention to process you know I think we ended up being good okay that's exactly right land opportunity exists the most ridiculous thing you've done as fast what I think that the other thing I I would have probably told myself is to make sure that nor nor can we shocking but you know it should give everybody out there hope that they can do something with their lives you too can be can't even was it an intense briefing you've been told this go rodeos about our let's do this we are going to have that on our gravestone how much just making sure that everybody who's communicating well together internally and looking out for each other as there were there were some there are some take-up and I think that it's unrealistic to expect that people are just going to put their phones away and spend I'm going to spend a lot of time thinking about this I don't have a clean answers to it some of it is just technology driven if you have a phone and you are able to I and my my instinct is everybody hates meteorite now everybody knows that the political culture doesn't work so that has to be an opera each side can win elections each side can in that tug of war gotta move five yards this way or that way but tackling it was actually I I always enjoyed press conferences I e you guys who are watching them it had prepped me and then clean up afterwards may have not always enjoyed them but I did I I've tried to you and beyond that I think it's fair to say you've shown tremendous restraint in not criticizing the president-elect are building consensus and we are very far away from doing that right now yeah so you have kept your promise to ensure a smooth transition suspicion is that particular to this last election there's a bay sizable maybe still silent majority that just as tired of being mad all the time and would appreciate you know people listening to each other so one of the things that later we got I got better and I think the whole team got better but you know in those early days I think you don't appreciate to visit everything on the web with a touch of a button you are going to get into certain habits and yeah you can lecture people whatever your ideological beliefs this place has to work in order for people to get their social security checks and in this sort of polarized media environment with full software institure talking to a progressive media start up how do you think people can get out of those bubbles in this sort of polarize media world messy meetings that I don't recall that after the war people out so you just finished your final press conference right was it big challenges of the sort that I talked about in the speech you know tackling inequality thinking about where the new economic models that we're going to have to come up with that's going to require that was just a sort of farewell bouquet to me he's like oh I didn't have to write any of the questions down be controversy anger that it was important for everybody to have a cooling off period and I figured a team pretty quick which made that much more important for us to be able to provide them pretty good blueprint of just the base and I I was impressed that there were no six-part questions that were just did not think too part was was the most we got so you know I don't know whether the real news here is you know you talked a lot particularly in your speech in Chicago about the impact of people living in bubbles all right how do you think that are doing really well and they feel like nobody's paying attention to and that things are deteriorating and the way life that would have to start with me it is also my belief and you guys will work here so I think you'll appreciate this that the Go-to the site that makes your blood boil with you which you completely disagree but it's it's hard to do I don't think you're going to get a huge Tony Right I there there's gotta be a way in which we can create serve a virtual public square that feels better for people my security that they use to feel they had isn't there anymore and the question then for Democrats is in addition to a whole bunch of power ascribe we may given given vent to to how they're feeling you've talked a lot since the election about what the Democratic Credit Party and that's been one of the few faultlines in what otherwise it's been a pretty unified Democratic Party and I said all their time listening to NPR or you know other media that I might think is more balanced and more accurate on the it to make sure that veterans are getting care and to make sure that our troops are properly equipped when they go into the theater and so whatever outcome but you know I mean that's my as you guys know that's my sweet spot that's my will houses people not being fully sick blocking and tackling around the government so I know that that didn't always satisfy some of emotions of folks who are disappointed with the election it'll be spans from time thinking about is how how do you build that culture both in the real world and in the virtual world because if we don't I don't know how we solve problems we can that's gonNA accelerate and driverless Uber and the equivalent displacement that's going to be taking place in office buildings all around speech in in Chicago look we all want free and fair trade and you can argue about negotiations with China are Dega tougher stance with Mexico sees that are tried true and I continue to believe are important like raising minimum wage or rebuilding our infrastructure around the country so we can put or what have you but the fact is in the data just shows this the jobs that are going away are primarily going away because automation and country is going to be scary for folks which means that we are going to have to start thinking about where to jobs come from and how much government involvement Bush to this for you and and you really respect that seems like there's a larger principle at stake there for you I just think that the election was so fraught with anxiety they should do differently and you said you know gotta show up in these small towns where these voters went from you in two thousand twelve to trump this past election when the Democrats and is there in the marketplace and do we have a job sharing economy that works so that everybody has worked because people are working in the service sector how do we make sure that they are getting paid enough so in addition to make an argument that on things that aren't just policy differences but twitter comments or anything else like that why did you feel it was so important to do this is tradition and movement watches was founded on the belief that style shouldn't break the bank the watchmakers goal is to change the way consumers think about fashion by offering high quality minimalist products at revolutionary prices fishing's about what they'll say which is they feel as if there are cities and power centers around this country the differences you have you you WanNa make sure that at least the basic ship of state is functioning and I think part because the president-elect may not I think it's fair to say that Republicans have over the last eight years eroded certain norms bill more creative about anticipating what's coming down the pike because automation is relentless and it turns out that works not just about finances but it's about dignity and feeling like you got a place in the world and how do you pay for that and if more and more get fifteen percent off today with free shipping and free returns by going to mvmtwatches.com slash crooked you'll forget slash crooked people get on that crooked business are we describe our economic options going forward the there's been an argument about trade in the Suharto at back to work or making sure that we're investing in our school systems from Early Childhood Education through community colleges and tell themselves about their opportunities and and their kids opportunities and and if you spend some time listening than you'll learn a lot and I have my sis wapping those small towns what do you think they should say those trump Obama voters well the I think the first thing bay should say is what is it the the disadvantage relative to Mitch McConnell But I I don't I don't know how we're served with more judicial vacancies I don't know how this is killing traditional retail and what's true there is going to be true throughout our economy you're listening to Pod Save America but in terms of cooperation in terms of you know how does Democratic Congress work with President Trump my suggestion has been having a lifelong job training in addition to all that stuff I do think that the Democratic Party is GonNa have to maybe be a little bolder in not have anticipated winning or at least didn't have the part traditional party establishment behind him it meant that they were going to have to build up if you want a better deal than you'd better start unionizing an organizing because otherwise you're you're GonNa get screwed in addition to make the argument that if you're in the service sector right now example trump says that he wants to build infrastructure I've been everybody around this table knows that I've been on my infrastructure go ahead and finance big infrastructure boom it's important for Democrats to an -ticipant that two years later they'll I think you look for ways to cooperate where you can but I think you do don't play the sucker make sure that is to undermine norms that help support progressive society so so in that sense yeah maybe we're a little it's GonNa accelerate you saw just what happened to retail stores sales this this past Christmas Amazon and online sales that cooperation does not carry such a high price that it undermines some other key things that you care about and credit norms I'm not just thinking about the last election I'm thinking about Merrick Garland the debt ceiling confirmation process do you think that the he you should be fighting for a higher minimum wage because across the board everybody in the service sector is GonNa be better off in addition to those traditional argument's we had I think probably have to uh-huh capitalism here which is a really clean design it's great now's the time to step up your game go to mvmtwatches.com slash crooked and join the movement there's so many institutions breaking down even if we face political setbacks what do we do with it yeah I look I think that it doesn't help the progressive you know advocacy since I came in office so that should be an area where our interests me but how do you pay for aggressive should follow suit to win more or do you think that you know it's more important to be the institutionalists and in this world words really important and if president elect trump or you know the public congress tell you what right now deficits don't matter less just you guys want I think you start by listening and trying to tease out from people what is it that they're most worried about where what are the stories there worked on speeches with me I want to tell a story as opposed to just have a series of lines that you stand around and knew where their areas of agreement just make sure that your negotiating toughen negotiating well I'll give specific only come back and say you know what we all voted for the infrastructure now the deficits are terrible deficits count again and this is why we need to cut Medicaid so it's over five hundred thousand watches sold to customers in one hundred and sixty countries around the world movement watches has solidified itself as the world's fastest growing watch company mice pretty cool well-served we are with US trying to suppress voters the way they tried to suppress voters in a place like North Carolina that that doesn't sound like a good solution but all and structural systems like voting and keeping politics out of the criminal justice system I think partly because the first two years it was just such a fire drill now I just I'd be finished by midnight and that you know if we lose on that front then the democratic process doesn't work then people don't have the chance to say you know what we tried this thing now I think where the Democrats should be pretty hard nosed is around some of the basic institutional that Whatever I write is a little more thematic which is good because you know I've I've journal well that's that's the point is is being an outsider and then suddenly you're on the inside how change happens and what blocks it so I think the main thing probably is is just making sure again and again the growth that took place for me and for you guys and a lot of people as you wrestle with so you're GonNa do when you walk out of here is begin thinking about your memoirs you are a writer I and we're writer before your politician have you thought about how your memoirs Anthony Step Up Your Watch game and visit movement watches dot com to enjoy free shipping and free returns on your new watch listeners of the show can get fifteen percent off today when you go to I haven't given a Lotta thought that I've been too busy though the one thing that prize a carryover from the way we wrote speeches and and a bunch of guys around here different than the traditional presidential more yeah I've given that some thought look at hopefully people don't just by the book but sort of becomes a a detailed diary then I'm probably not gonNA be able to transmit the idea of sitting there and then trying to break down exact more here's what you know the Afghan review you want something else to to replace it because Lo and behold powers further entrenched some of these structural advantages? You said one of the things it to people what I found has been most interesting about this job and that is the stories of the American people certain themes that come up right and so I I think the equivalent of the book is if all it is is and then this happened and then this happened and this happened and it's chronological uh-huh I wear often things touching my wrist but I make an exception watches Dan what do you think I love my movement why we keep them in interviews if you have any friends who what when eighty two so that would that would be one thing but you know what you you you kind of want to feel like they got something out of it process was like so maybe just as a consequence not having been like Jimmy Carter in Michigan the to be a part of this journey on the two thousand four Senate race and I was looking through old pictures the other day I saw this this Rinky Dink downstate Illinois tour we'd announce in Chicago Elissalde recorded every single thing that happened to me every day I'll be forced to right the medically A LOT OF DETAILS ARE LOST MR President I was lucky com you can post your job to two hundred plus job sites including social media networks like facebook and twitter all with a single click how could that be possible you can find candidates in any city or industry nationwide usually resonated so in terms of the presidency look you know winning Iowa was at the heart of everything that happened and right now our listeners can post jobs on Ziprecruiter for free by going to Ziprecruiter DOT com slash crooked that's ziprecruiter dot com slash crooked one more time to try it for Free Iowa I'm going to name other things where I was attending those I think it's fair to say that like Zelic he was he ah find out today why Ziprecruiter's been used by tens of thousands of small and medium sized businesses and fortune five hundred companies all right moving on and right now I have a job for and and that was different although for me at least winning the Democratic primary in that Senate race was the inflection point because tip recruiter dot com slash crooked two thousand eleven we work on the correspondence walks of life and backgrounds and they were just going to go into a gym or a classroom and they were just going to make an argument about why they're candidate was best and why these issues were important and you could just feel the spirit and you said this not just the fact that we won but how we won I continued and I've said this before the night of the Iowa Caucus was my the school where I was going to kind of shake some hands as caucus-goers played in and it just felt good this is how this thing's supposed to work right at its best and it rarely does but this this is that thing that started awesome I bet always was that if I won that and I won that Senate seat that I would have a platform and I had some confidence that I'd have a message that I just post once and watch your qualified candidates roll into Ziprecruiter's easy to use interface no juggling emails or calls to your office quickly screen candidates rate them and hire the right person fast no emails things I said Yeah I know how far we've come and I'm wondering if you've had any time to do that and if you think that there's an inflection point along the way that was that was the moment in hindsight the Oh four convention speech is there a every inflection point now look you guys were there and and you remember look two thousand four gave me a national plan and you know what I remember about that night more than anything else was the fact that the next day we were going to be the outside Washington chanting USA one of the magical moments of our time here to debt ceiling and yeah two centuries ago and if you could duplicate that night and that moment across the country uh-huh felt different you didn't have that same feeling different you're listening to Pod Save America and and you know the way in which everything feels like it's going great and then suddenly you can hit a pothole and favorite moment in politics and that was before it was announced that we had one and I've told this story about just going to and grabs attention as well as anybody in our culture so so quickly had his sights on something it's the funniest speech presidents ever given at the correspondents dinner may have also caused him to run are we responsible how should we feel that and you are focused on the bin Laden raid we are writing jokes we write a rant about an apprentice the next morning we were going to be making his big of a decision as I may during my presidency so it kind of washed away pretty quick and these conversations with Jack Lew and others about what options in fact were available because it was it had never happened before and I just happen to be sitting at a table the bunch of studying media company and it's like where do we go to find people to fill these many many jobs that are growing concern have you heard Ziprecruiter ziprecruiter and I also remember about that moment is the rapidity with which we went from the Bin Laden raid folks for that night which is part of the reason why was funny and so he's very effective marketer around the world do you just feel you felt that time that there wasn't a problem we couldn't solve an old man playing accordion working for Hillary and it's it was there any actions that I took might be violations of the law and so we had to be talking to lawyers about you know potential there were all kinds of wacky ideas about how potentially you could call y'all have this massive coin some massive a trillion dollar coin dollar commemorative coins commemorative coin and on that basis we could try to take off US Treasury the sun I I think we give ourselves too much credit to say that's why trump rotten one I had turned up that whole birther thing well we challenges and legal actions and lawsuits from bondholders around the world and not fun I it was it was my favorite and had no idea how he's going to pay the bills for his daughters treatments and the risks of whatever job he took whether that yeah it gets pretty technical but there was there was this theory that I had the authority to just issue this through the the men I just issue this recession I think that's one of the lessons you were asking earlier John About what what I tell myself I think I was pretty good about this so I might coming up to me and hugging me and tears and just reminding me of of what had it had been like for him when he was a young reporter and your careening off the side of the road at and being able to maintain some sense of equilibrium through that process I think bad banded up losing undoubtedly consultants were telling them that they might lose their seats they were all pretty new young guys I still remember Axelrod who who's a wonderful daughter has had severe epilepsy most of her life shot of members of Congress some of my favorite members of Congress voted for this thing they lived in the toughest districts the politics generate the votes to make sure that the US didn't default I remember starting the speed yeah we had to start drafting the speech and we were having my guy in Missouri Candor who lost but seems extraordinarily talented seems like a sharp guy and I hope that he also true is that in addition to talking to Jack Lew Treasury Secretary and my speechwriters about a speech you know there were also questions about it's pretty important when you when you scared in the White House what was the scariest moment while I think it was a moment when John Bainer didn't seem to be able to and the economy might be on the verge of collapsing again patch we just spent two years trying to yank it out of a navigate a lot of the ideological nonsense and just stay focused on getting the job done in Congress you know you use my limited time travel on this piece of advice you but but but just understanding the enormous ups and downs of this place yes and it was a very realistic possibility that we couldn't get the votes for that and we couldn't get Those debts rolled over and Steph was covered or not and it was very personal for a lot of people in I think it also was a moment when you saw real curry and we would be in a situation where technically were in default and at that point you're in uncharted territory and and are and what was star that sort of has that sense of principle encouraged that you see coming up a new generation you know I I think there's a bunch of folks who were doing really interesting stuff this who at the start of their careers and they said you know what this is why I'm here and it was it was similar to that I will night in the sense that it yeah but what was your favorite night I I've said this and I it it has never stopped being my parents vindicated a certain kind of politics and public service and why you get into this stuff who do you see out there in the Democratic Party today as a rising like camera Harris who just got elected people who've been there awhile like Michael Bennett really good people and really talented and in it for the right reason so and then we you know guys like lesser in Massachusetts in the State Senate so I just feel like there's there's a generation Mike some primitive some it was like out of the Stone Age I pictured rolling in some coin for for those who are listening working locally at town hall meetings writing members of Congress personally working local news and affordable care act right and they're looking for ways to help what would you tell them about the ways that they can get involved being courage about fighting to preserve the gains of this bill then maybe expected and so the some of the talent is a little younger or just getting exposed just getting started but there out there that's moving there's a little bit of a gap in some ways I was precocious showed up lower earlier common and that's part of what makes me optimistic this is pod save America there are still tickets left to the inaugural tons I mean I do notice a certain theme which is that you know everybody's questions seemed to be centered on yeah we're journal that their their moment got a bunch of guys who used to work with you and they're still trying to do with their lives instead of having podcast you got you may disagree with the tea party but they were effective in making sure that their views were heard an amplified and so people you've made your first ticket purchase download the seek apple enter Promo Code crooked today a lot of people that listen to this are people that care rotate you got no you got Michael Blake you know who's now I gather running for vice chair the DNC and more we tell a story about how many people actually been helped the more pressure we are placing on this congress and the president elect to pretend that there aren't some challenges in terms of people whose whose premiums may need to get subsidized a little bit more eh if they actually could do it I'd support it my guess is they can't because we spent a lot of time trying to figure out could we do it better you can feel it is not for me just it felt good to see all these people from all these different get your twenty dollars rebate on tickets download the seek APP go to the settings tab and click at a Promo Code Enter Promo Code Crooked Code crooked there you go seek it was twenty dollars I I hope that it tells a story of a presidency and a period of time in and did it the way we did it was because that was the best option available in a really complicated system so I would just encourage everybody here you see and gets back on the Horse I remind him and others that I lost my first federal race night than the night we passed the correct that was a big piece of business yet and it was hard and it was tough but I think the work is local as opposed to federal I would pay a lot of attention to what the tea party did fighting the affordable Care Act oh that's awesome in Sacramento I love hockey and here's the best part is our listeners get a twenty dollars rebate off their first CD coaches it's true there are rural communities where the choice of providers doctors hospitals isn't as big as it should be but generally speaking the and we knew that the politics of some of the things that some of the elements of the fourball correct wouldn't be easy to sell politically the reason we it's to a game or concert you can have the seek up right on your phone and get your tickets that way guys I have a person could seek this week I'm going to see the Kings in the warriors and find a whole bunch organizations that are trying to amplify the importance of this issue and organizing but focusing on the vote in government politics isues nonprofits public service and that wave just well if you if you're willing to get in the arena to move history and when when I think about will most to deliver on their claim and their promise that they can provide the same coverage or better 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Talkin' The Star: Previewing Cowboys at Jets
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It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for any Ninja Warrior Fan so the Dallas Cowboys should not lose this game and they will have serious questions to answer if to start off fast it seems like in most games this offense is taken a while to get going on obviously early in the season they fell down that's a little bit of a preview and we're doing this a little bit differently so the jets being who the jets are scoring four offensive touchdowns in the Yo this is talking to star is your host Dalton Miller and then we are also going to talk a little bit about what we wanna see or what we need to see from this defense against a team that is games in Miami and the first five in New York they've scored four offensive touchdowns that past seven games okay and that's not just the jets that is the atom grace offense so the last honor lives say at Connor doesn't matter gave him Miller that is Dalton B Miller B. as in boy you can follow coal at coal l Patterson that is l. as in Larry and you can follow talk about you know one or twitter handles are and all that stuff as well I on twitter followers exactly you can follow me at don't be he's able to bring to that offense compared to what Luke Falk who started the last couple of games as SAM DARNOLD has been out with mono before along for this offense to get going to get points on the board when you have talent Dak Prescott quarterback Ezekiel Elliott running back you have one of the best receiver that Matt Twitter exactly now we are here to talk about the cowboys versus the Yes we're GonNa get to the offense coal more than anything else what do you WanNa see from this all fence come Sunday yeah with this offense conor Livesey is no longer with us no now he just couldn't make it on tonight he will be back for the next edition of talking the Star I am however joined by my co host Co Patterson coal how're you doing today and pretty well are you doing I'm doing do but what we WANNA do is we want to talk a little bit about what we want to continue nece- from the offense or things that we haven't seen that we WANNA see flailing and and has a legitimate shot to to have the number one pick in the draft now when we get to the defense we will talk about Sam Darnold and what he as far as execution I think just a little bit of everything and yes I know the jets aren't aren't the New England Patriots Day aren't pretty well see I don't think it takes connor too long to ask us how we're doing he'll behind the giants and the redskins they went into the half against Miami tennis six that is the first is score on the first drive against I think that this offense starting out quickly is something the only thing really that we haven't seen from this offense yet and although they were they are going to be competing for the super bowl or anything but if I see this offense really take advantage of what of what they can do l. on their way the interception ended up taking away from that and even after that like they were able to move the ball past the I'm excited to see is and I believe that tyrants myth is going to be back for this game I don't think I don't Oh aren't McCain third quarter adjustments or whatever the case is so that's what I'm looking forward for Sunday yet and you make a really good point there I in times how good this offense can be it's just can this offense get firing riot right after kickoff rather than letting the other teams at the Tampa elite understand if he's not ready or not one hundred percent I would like to just sit him out for this game because would hurt more than it would help yeah and obviously we want to see him come back and if he is healthy obviously he should come back but if there is a risk of him you know possibly reinjuring himself you obviously don't want that now what we see from other players here is that you know tyrant didn't Oh and moved the ball downfield and put points in to the scoreboard consistently early into the game that would be a big sign to me I think we've seen it even without your starting left and right tackles you should win this game handedly agree with that I think tires cut you off of the entire is over there but I mean did did you like what you saw over there after lie heroes in a League is we've talked about in our last show it seems like it's taking too long his offense to get going I don't know where to put the blame as far as schemes fifty yard line on their first five drives and they only ended up with three points off of that and that just can't happen I also WanNa see quick start but more than anything is what happens at right tackle if you do see tyran Smith playing this game are they going and I believe that they are going to start Cam Fleming with an illness he also has I believe a little knee thing but he's supposed to be full go as well and then Lyle Collins is probably not going to antwon woods back for this game he tried to go last week and couldn't we need that run defense will be good but on offense the real big thing I want to see Fleming gets the job done it's it's ugly it is even when he does do the job correctly it is it's ugly it does not look good Orlando going early on against green bay until obviously the interception but all in all it just seems like it's been taking really nice plus you know this is a little bit different of a match up because the way that can trouble other than I mean it'd be able to throw the ball up and down the field I'm really excited to see so I believe that when when you're not facing the amount of speed that he was against the the Smith brothers I think that he will do a little bit better of a job future Dallas Cowboy Jamal Adams come back on the other side you know right after the game gets the IT's three point four five three point four five yards receiving per route run out news that he has been traded to the Dallas cowboys for a first round pick which will be picked thirty two after acquiring him or short mat leash is for him and how quick they pull him out of the game and put night in if they do at all what kind of adjustments they make if he's having a little bit at this today but it said or at least I heard on the radio today at one five three the fan that he is most likely going to play in this game late mannerist in practice if you can't have that it looks like they won't they'll be without at least one of them if not both I'd like to see Brennan night in key or he is not going to play in this game with the MC L. injury other than that the injury report doesn't look all that terrible you'd a couple of guys that are limited hopefully we what do you think that number is it's over three three point one three point five it's close and nobody else is at three that's an incredible number at is and he's our number two wide receiver I mean title spot and if Cam Fleming does start the game which I I from what I'm understanding he will if he struggles a little bit I wanna see how quick or how just saw Amari Cooper go eleven for one twenty two or whatever was like ridiculous number and that was toasting John I kind of want to see what this Brandon Knight can has at this point because you're right he did look like the better player the other day so I'm interested to see that I wanna see what happens at that I thought that all of his stats had come from those first three games against bad teams when he literally defenses in his strong but if you're asking me who I'd rather star I think tonight me too and it's not just because he wears the number sixty nine which is on the better performer on on Sunday I think thumbing struggled I think I think he wasn't up to the task has to do with a your Alexander who in my opinion yeah is one of the stickiest cover corners in the league you cannot cover a morning cooper and it's getting NFL who is averaging over three yards per route run Michael Gallon the only one and now guests that the point where you can't cover Michael Galloping and we talked about that on the last episode that he is just both of them are just difficult to cover together and they're one of the top eight four more wine receiving duo in the NFL one of seeing a lot about Dak Prescott in the last couple of days is the Oh and I'm gonNA throw up saying this but I wanna see they can establish on I I wanna see especially really just threw for four hundred fifty yards like what what are you talking about I get it this this offense down I mean who would you like to see start there if I'd choice indeed out looks like us in our let's see Tony Pollen get eight to twelve I want to see what the numbers look like with a little bit more of a load on Tony Pollard I think branding night was to better bright spot in Cameron Fleming obviously you'd rather have your to starting attack was on the game but if you obviously when the best tech was the league he's had a history of injuries I think Russia game backward exit team might new are like a New York would let's see them open this offense up with Tony powered split out wide running routes in twenty two personnel or or twenty one personnel with both this is GonNa make absolutely fine against the jets if it's not we're going to have big big questions on the kind of shot themselves in the foot against the saints they called you Kelly I'm an Zeke on the field trying to get those matched up against linebackers in coverage and we just haven't seen it so that is something that I'm looking forward to and would we green Bay's pass rush the jazz aren't quite as good they not quite talented Green Bay hazards at Smith brothers they don't hit the with with Zeke empowered them both to not split carries but you know if if if Zeke gets eighteen to twenty carries a one obviously yeah pick thirty two no but I I am Michael Gallup I I saw the stat today he is the only player in the win your forcing Jason Win on the field all the time you have a good second tight end in Blake Darwin especially as a receiving tight end I come from but it doesn't mean that I still don't want to see them somehow yeah I think he's a talent to not have involved in some way it's good to see how how impactful he will use able to impact the game as receiver he obviously whenever hundred yards on the ground against Miami but then incident might not see it against the jets but I'm hoping that in weeks after that against the Eagles once you get to the meat of the schedule I'm really and then you look at guys like Randall Cobb who has been really productive as the slot option in Dallas so far so I don't really know where those sports APP and watch CBS SPORTS HQ Today. 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Bonus Podcast: Training with a Purpose at the Range
"Mm-hmm yes I don't think you are. Hey it's Tom Gresham. It's a bonus. Podcast gun talk route a gun side. Actually in the middle of a media event held a bunch your fun. I'm sitting here with my friend Chris. Renaud of course if Serena Training and knowing we've seen on our first person defender allow the stuff we've done Chris. We're having fun out here. Actually shooting a gun. We can't talk about yet. So we're not gonNA talk about that. Okay that's right there. You go but I've been well all day. Yesterday I was shooting with you and kind of watching shoot and we were Talk a little bit about practice and you had some interesting comments about the need to practice with a purpose and as opposed to. What was the thing you said people just post online said? Yeah. I went out. In some rounds. Down Range Letdown. Led Down Range okay. So what what's wrong with that? Well unfortunately what we get in that as a trainer I get a lot of people that come the classes and they they. They say they're shooters you know. Well I'm a shooter. My wife says shooter or you know my son's shooter but really what they do. Is they go out and they discharged firearms and safe direction. And they're really not shooters granted. They're shooting guns but they're just putting led down range. Maybe you know standing In a booth at a range. It's so not training and it's more of a hobbyist or an enthusiast enthusiasts wrong with that and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that is just that people don't know their limitations then they come to class and they realize everything they don't know and then they become overwhelmed and that's not necessarily a problem but sometimes they take it out on themselves too hard or sometimes they take it out on me. Well I was just writing a piece this morning. I told you about it because I went to another training last weekend. And right off the bat trainers and they had challenges for me. They put it this. Half Cy Silhouette target and he said okay. Now Go back up to twenty five yards. We're going to start at twenty five yards on a half sized silhouette target okay. That's GonNa be a challenge challenge for anyone for anyone and what it did is it reminded me of the thing I already knew. Which is we talk about it when as soon as they leave your class their skill level starts dropping as soon as you leave the class. If you're not after practicing your skill level starts dropping but more than that if you're not practicing the right way you can't just sit down a purpose like you said this with a purpose you have to think about the drills that you learned in the class and that's kind of a problem with a lot of training today a lot of training is really just running cool drills. That are fun and they like to talk about high round counts. Yeah Hi Round Cow. Five hundred targets because it's easier to hit them we don't have to shoot that well so we can let a lot of things slide in in what you find out is. You're really not that good. You know you really aren't as good as you think you are until you get challenged. That's the problem is how do you know if you're good? There's a question for you. Yeah that that is a real question. I'll tell you what today this week at gun sight. I think you and I are both experiencing that we really aren't that good. Were not as good as we think are good and you are too. I mean when you look at it. There's always people that are better than there's always something you can learn and there's always something you can work on but even for me as good as I am and as good as you are in less we shoot together in a competitive nature not just shooting tin cans standing there unless we bring out a timer unless we get some turning targets. Unless there's somebody there to push us go to smaller targets ranges just shooting guns. We're discharging firearm. And yesterday we actually shooting a pistol and we're carry pistol right and we're backing up or shooting. You know three then five. And then seven then twelve and fifteen and then twenty five and thirty five and then fifty yards. Part of the reason we were able to do that. I it was a good gun but also we've been shooting a bunch in the morning tuned up and we got better as we legalized the trigger. The fundamentals of marksmanship. So there's three things I focus on. I talk about it. All the time gear manipulation weapon manipulation and fundamentals marksmanship. So what did we work on the whole first half of the day fundamentals of those three things? Yeah care that they gave us that. They gave us the US fundamentals working on applying the fundamental. What are the fundamentals of marksmanship well crypt sites and trigger are about the three most important ones and ultimately? I mean if you had to put them in hierarchy of course it's triggered but sh- recall management starts at the grip anybody can go out and see that's the thing you can go out and you can hold a gun anyway and shoot rounds and shoot immaculately. I mean we've all know we know that because you've seen me hold a gun upside down with my pinky standing on one foot. I can do that but what I want to do that. If somebody was shooting back at me you need to control recoil need to be able to get repetitive shots on yes you have to deliver accuracy on demand and have to be able to deliver multiple rounds. So there's so much to do with practice and that's why I say it's important to be there with someone who's as good or better and what I say to to a lot of people. Is You know it's funny because you know I have friends? That aren't that good. They shoot with me. They work and every once in a while you know they'll they'll come to me and say well. I went out and practiced yesterday and I say well. What did you do? Did you work on? I mean 'cause you Kinda suck. Unfortunately what did you practice you gotta term for you? Go ahead and say it. Well explicit masturbation it and they go out and they put led down range and they can't correct anything in they usually end up saying. Hey Yeah just couldn't I couldn't I couldn't get my head right. I couldn't make it happen. Everything was low left or whatever and I say I say to everybody practice best done. Under the watchful eye of a qualified instructor now finding a qualified instructors a whole nother story but there are some really great shooters out there. That has some great ideas and and at least if they can perform you can learn something from them. And what instructor does doing for your time. Just providing that set of eyes to see what you're doing because it's pretty difficult for most people to diagnose what they're doing. Oh yeah there's been times when even myself know I I developed a right tick for the longest time and I realized that my palm swell my hand is just too deep. And if I don't have a gun seated into the back of my hand the gun ticks to the right every time I shoot press the trigger. It took me the longest time to figure that out what was doing it. So dry fire at live fire and I realized that I wasn't shooting with a big enough grip. I needed more PALM SWELL TO I. Guess the best way to explain that his. I'm not great with nine hundred eleven because I miss the grip safety so if I don't have a high bomb or a bill back Strap Yup. I'll miss the grip safety. The gun will because the poem swells just like with that. It affects me with other guns in that it slips in my hand and sometimes it's such a small thing yesterday up shoes pistol. I'm I'm not awful lot. Most people say against shooting pretty well. But I'm getting this horizontal stringy. It's not vertical. I'm getting horizontal string and I'm looking at. I don't know what I'm doing and Charlie instructor here walks out and he's doing and I shoot a couple times he said okay. This you're not putting your trigger finger quite far enough into against the trigger and so when you press backwards. You're actually moving the gun slightly. Left Choudhry up. Is it if you just put your trigger finger into the Turner Guard ever so slightly and I mean we're talking not very much at all? Well she still on the pad of your finger but most people think well it's the tip of your Finger and Oh my God heaven forbid you ever shoot with your finger to deep into the trigger right. My Daddy said my group shrunk down. I mean it's like amazing you're going. I don't know that I ever would have figured that out myself. I needed that other set of eyes. Did I just say that? It's all about the trigger. Okay all triggers are not created equal. Right why is the nineteen eleven such a favourite gun trigger? It's a great trigger. It's truly straight into the rear. It's more of a button and it is a trigger. It's definitely not a lever. Like most right are correct so it's easy to prostrate to the rear. They're generally lighter. So yeah there's all these like the way they shoot but then you got some guy that carries a one thousand nine eleven and he goes to shoot with his buddy who now has a clock factory clock trigger or a Gen one Smith and he says No. No you just put your finger on there and that's all you need. That's not right for that. No heaven forbid they get out a revolver. It'd have to put the finger all the way. And they are unhook it all the way into the second pad girl. Yeah so it really comes down to the trigger and for me you know. There's a lot of fundamentals and grip sites trigger because recall management starts at the grip. And we know that because if we don't hold a gun right we can't shoot fast. Right has nothing to do with our feet because yesterday when we shot the scrambler how many different positions were. We're moving all over the place where we AB laying down on board. We may be hunkered down on one knee. We're all kind of weird position absolutely gripped sites and trigger and ultimately what it takes us that we put sites on target we make. That's why I say. I do sight alignment and sight picture. I lump them together so I just call it sites. You know. I'm thinking about Engulf. Every instructor you talked to every book you read says when you go out to the driving range and hit balls. Don't just hit balls. There has to be a reason for hitting every single ball for every swing. You need to have okay. What is it I am doing here? What am I working on before I take the swing and I'm wondering if that's not the mindset. We ought to have him. Were practising hormone working on here. Maybe right now I need to really work on getting hard focus on the front sight which takes more mental energy than a lot of people understand right. The mental discipline involved in shooting is extremely important as it is. I'm sure in golf if I knew anything about it. But the whole idea is if you're going to send rounds down range why not get a benefit out of it? Well I certainly benefit and just feeling good. I like to shoot but if you want to get better at this. Have a reason for pulling the trigger. What am I working on? Am I working on beat? Am I working on recall management and my working on whatever and then we get to the whole idea of if you carry a gun for personal protection? You probably need to be working on the stuff that we need to work on the malfunction drills all that kind of stuff and that's something that we practice yesterday to practice malfunction drills. We worked a lot from holsters. People don't work from holsters. They don't know how to present the pistol target in a timely fashion so yeah as drawn presentation or presentation no matter if it's a long gun or pistol. I mean that's a fundamental. Of course you know working from the holster understanding what it takes to get your obtain. Your Master Grip. Grip is a fundamental. It's all that stuff and it all works together again. Gear manipulation weapon manipulation fundamental marksmanship. And unfortunately you put the label. Basic people want to come in this hour. I want you to teach me. Vance stuff right right. How many times have you had people come? Sal I'm shooting a long time. I WANNA learn advanced stuff with you. They do it all the time. And the fact is there is no advanced training. There's only advanced applications of the basics and just like in a class in Colorado just a little bit ago and everything we're doing is basic except everybody's falling apart and I stopped him and I said listen. Is there anything advanced about what we're doing here and nobody could really answer that and I said well we gotta draw from the Holster? We've got a presentation target. We've got this. We've got that you know. And and every one of those individual tasks was a basic simple thing but when you pile them on they come unglued wheels. Come off right. And that's what you do you start with a simple you keep adding owning egg and frankly you build it up where it's hard and you work on that you get that then you start adding more stuff on but you know if you're serious about this stuff if you're going to carry a gun to protect your life in life of your loved ones. You owe it to yourself and to them to be proficient which means you got to go out and practice not just shoot shooting just practice and by the way shootings not training trade. Is a class trainings. Working with an instructor going out to the range and shooting is not training in my book. No no unless let's take it back. I mean we're almost done here but let's think about it so we talked about practicing with a purpose. Let's get away from ballistic. Masturbation just putting led down range You need to think about. What am I gonNA work on today? Might not work on my short range. Game long-range Game Am. I GonNa work on holster work. Am I gonNA work on reloading? Am I going to work on? Fine precision shooting. I'm GonNa work on you. Know just combat focus shooting where. I'm just looking through the gun at a giant target. Now my satisfied just hitting high center chest that's great you know versus you know being able to put precision shots but always be working on something and any time that you can take somebody with you that you can show off four or be pushed by think about it because we perform when we're showing off sure it makes sense we show off for somebody or or somebody that shows off to us in Inspires. Us makes you better. That's right not going to let him show me up this time. I'm going to be better this time. And then if you get shown up you will process that continuously your after you go back home. It will motivate you to get better and be better next time you go out after losing a match to make you really work on it in your head right right absolutely and I'm GonNa leave here this week at gunsight thinking about all the things that I need to work on I've been to. I went to a lot of classes this year. And this is my last one for the year and I'm so glad I did it because I know things I need to work on for next time interesting you know and also there's a value. I just WANNA throw this in at the end of going to different instructors. It's fine to say this is where I go and I trained with this person again again again but sometimes having a different way of presenting something or looking at something or just a way of saying something can make a connection with you on something absolutely one hundred percent you can learn just as much from different people what to do as what not to do so sometimes you learn something that you say. Well you know what I was doing before was really a lot better now. I kind of understand why I was supposed to do that. Chris this is at that exactly people want to know more about training with you. How did they find out well? We're building our schedule right now. And it's GonNa be out really soon and if you look up Chris Serino. Training Group DOTCOM. I should have a pretty nice website there and I'll have a great schedule and we'll be around the country here and they're geared up for twenty twenty nine twenty twenty all right. Christina thank you. It's always a pleasure. Yeah thank you Tom.
Steelers Stat Geek: Stats that need to remain if the Steelers want to start stacking wins
"Want to know more about what your favorite Ninjas have on their minds check out the American Ninja Warrior podcasts. It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for any Ninja Warrior Fan dealer fans welcome back to another episode of Steeler Stat Geek this is behind still curtain deputy editor Dave scofield coming at you rich numbers stand out to you what was what was the one key interesting stat that you thought would be kinda crazy so here's rich we're going to talk about first things first we're going to say what happened this past week Sunday night football steelers going out to la but we Kinda can't in this case because there's no game coming up it is a bi week still with that I know some people wanted to say watch football or even actually we've probably watched more football stadium together then we have on TV lately wouldn't you say because we don't lately I wouldn't I think there's more people cheering from San Diego than in La which was an interesting thing that I saw today that took down those chargers so rich how's it going I got you go gun well happy to be here with you tonight there Bro Act following on the coattails of someone with their major net matic's that was would be my older brother rich who is joining us tonight to bring him in here practice squad with the steelers or anybody in week one and that's what we had going out there and what do you know we go out there take down those former San Diego bts's Stat Geek. I might not be the biggest geek in my own family now a non the biggest geek in my own family but when it actually comes to stats third quarterback starting for the season it's their only two guys at quarterback through our active or two guys that weren't even on the he was going to bring a guest on tonight to come in and talk about some numbers now although I I have the unofficial official title of Financial Curtain Stat Gigs us in the same town or anything so where that's what we do we get together it's so much fun whenever we go to Games we'll talk proceeded to show up the defense needed to score to me the defending the show up and not let them rush the ball and they did tell them to thirty two yards about that at the end we'll mentioned one little thing about that so this is my I call them my big brother I should call him my older brother because I've always seemed like I've had a little bit of it eighteen on fourteen carries we were aided a little bit there by the fact that we got out to a lead and they were having to play from behind but still they were handing the ball z. that kind of led to this win biggest that popped out at me was kind of a little bit what Jeff hit on earlier about the steelers need to do the there's someone else who was just as much of a person as as I am for those of you who might know or not know in college I got a degree in physics with mine vantage size department so for those of you who saw me attempt to kick those field goals that was some of your comments wow you're a big Guy Dave yes I am talk some thoughts some numbers time to geek out there let's kick out so here's what's happening everybody you're going to get to see kind of what it's like when my brother and I hang out and off we were stuffing it exactly that's that's the key so so so what were those numbers there we had thirty two yards fourteen carries that was just under two point three per attempt yeah that's I mean that's fantastic that's that's worse with the steelers run the ball nations I mean the the chargers had more incompletions they almost have more incompletions than what the steelers had attempts it I mean it was only the steelers only led a little bit of something that the defense did I mean we can talk about individual players we're going to get there but how about eighteen incomplete a few times this year when we were upset with with how bad they were doing but you gotTa love that you got that I'm going to jump in with another number to kind of piggyback off the three and a half point underdogs three and a half when I was six and a half point underdogs some places when as high as seven they were supposed to lose his game by touchdown they're on Sossamon postgame show saying man's tat gigs going to be interesting what he's GonNa talk about well here's what Dave Dave doing something a little bit different Dave decided attempts that's that's pretty solid the steelers had ten passes defended green another great number there it was nice to see those passes defended so used to us not having a very high number there double digits that was huge up to twenty passes the chargers had eighteen incompletions they were twenty six forty four so you're saying oh well they completed twenty six balls but I'm forty the last time the steelers had that many passes defense was week one of last season which was an overtime game that went the whole length of overtime so it took a long time and that was one we were at three point four four yards per tempt not bad not great I mean they had to go back and try to try to scrape together those stats because when it comes to pass his defense they don't do that in the places that I find here's a here's a crazy stat that I looked up most of the chargers stuff with their statistics came in the fourth quarter well actually had some fourth six carries the thirty six carries was really nice to see finally out of some time of possession there let the defense catch their breath for a few minutes again a lot of batted balls so that was I thought that was pretty good although you know they gave up a lot of yards as the as the game went on at the end which was kind of part of the Strategy Yup effective I was the best way I would say it is it it it wasn't like they were running down their throats they ran it effective enough to control the ball past week that anyone wants to throw out there we'll talk about them and then we're gonNA move onto numbers basically from the season had a greater time of possession seven fifty one two seven Oh nine so that tells you what were the steelers doing in the fourth quarter they weren't you know we ran the ball better at still like to see us break off bigger runs an add up yeah we rushed for one hundred twenty four yards thirty I placed fourth quarter with the steelers got home for that sack and then kicked a field goal but then they had a bunch of yards after that so they had one thirty five the steelers fifty four so so unless you have something else you WanNa say I was gonNA open it up to the live chat now say if there was any numbers this is specifically from this and I'll get to that in a little bit anything else you WanNa bring up numbers wise from this past week fifty four of course you know they got all seventeen points there although that I drive where they got that field goal they actually had negative yardage in the fourth quarter because the what is that eighty one more yards in the fourth quarter but in the fourth quarter even though with all the yards and all the plays the steelers still had alright were let's just rather than make them have to score twenty four points rather than twenty one and try to get that field goal let's just take away their time so they can't that is pretty interesting yeah just that's one where you'd like to see your receiver go up and fight for the ball urgence we're GonNa talk about that something for the season the steelers were eight for thirteen on third down conversions it was the first time all season they went over the chargers had twenty four to the steelers fourteen so they had the ball for a lot more place they gained one hundred thirty five yards in the fourth quarter when the steelers only had so far and how we wanna see those numbers some of those numbers where like hey we need to keep this up some of those numbers will be hey we really need to improve on that but if you have any things acidic I haven't been paying attention to the live chat I've been paying attention to what to what I'm saying into my brother and just kind of wondering if anyone has anything there that you'd like to throw out doc in other words that wasn't the best thrown ball but use a receiver you can't let the defender just come in and take it away like that that find do it so that that was that was an interesting stat there that that even though they kind of got dominated and other statistics in the fourth quarter they did have the time of possession order stats to throw out here these crazy okay again whatever am I pay Burt San Diego of course I did when it came to plays run in the fourth quarter the forty niners put man watching them play their defensive front is legit no wonder they could have much of a Russian game going on against them I think three and they did that in the first half so anything you want to say about that rich just was nice to see that help extended drives Jesse James Khattab all that's for sure so so that's that's interesting I mean especially early on you could see I mean I those third down conversions keep drives alive yup here we go cre- throws out something that I'm actually going to comment on one interception on Holton zero his best thrown deep ball of the night because there's other ones didn't look good on he didn't complete any passes further than ten yards downfield yeah Holton was imposition if nothing else at least break it up and he didn't really just let the defender come right through him but yeah it was there is a good one it's got it on my phone but it's it's lag a little bit here Dennis who's usually in here every Tuesday night and on other ones how about our third down Mason has a better qbr than Baker yes he does and he also has more touchdowns in less games so here's something that we're going to have we we should the air the longest one was the diving one for Moncrieff that a lot of people think that they have to line and ran a play because that was borderline to win that time of possession it's really part of what had been some of the issues tired out the defense all year so it was nice to see those order to win that game we got some other stuff here that's true Guy Rose says man these are lagging click on I need someone else knows somewhere then you can take me off that'd be great where they do that as a team staff they do it as individual stats so I had to go back and add up a bunch of individual stats look into press the ball down the field they were looking to say hey we've got let's see when they got the ball the first time the fourth quarter that twenty one point lead he usually had about seventy five percent of the defensive snaps he went up to right around eighty he went up a little bit but not a ton I'll obviously got more but they got J von Hargrave out the chargers had the ball moved down the field flipped to the flip the quarter got sacked. I'm pretty sure it was a sack they yeah because it was one of the I think duck did a great job I think he did exactly what they needed to do but the biggest thing that he benefited from was the rest of the team did their job fence do their job the running attack did their job the offensive line opened up those holes I mean I'll be honest with you would have been nice to see them do that against interesting is I I actually sent a text to Jeff Hartmann at that interception said believe it or not even though it was interception that might have been hard the power with Dan mccullers knows I I I'd have to go back and break it down personnel wise play by play and it was I remember seeing one pass moncrieff didn't drop officially he didn't drop it as a statistic but good thing they got up there and several fumble recoveries I can't remember exactly how many touchdowns Mayfield has so that was that was pretty good Russ I dislike the way you phrased this did enough I think if he would have been playing team like the forty niners they might have been in trouble because I don't know if they would've been able to run the ball if it would have been on his shoulders but guess what they were playing the forty kind of taken filling in those snapped by committee that's fine as long as as long as they do it so here we're going to rapid fire a couple of these here real quick and here we go oh here we go I like this is a good one anthony says Devon Bush it was hargrave also mccullers with the three guys out there I mean and they got the job done they did so that's the thing if they didn't just pass it off to allow I like what they did you came in a lot he got he got more cam hayward went from I think somewhat I read somewhere he effectively so all right I'm trying to skip ahead here to see if I can bring anything else this was cre- talking about stuff onto it the big loss yeah he was tied for second with sacks which is which is a pretty bad thing there firefighters but I think he's right Devon Bush has more takeaways than Baker Mayfield has touched house it's crazy I know I know Bush has protected duck like an endangered species I liked that one check out the American Ninja Warrior podcast to see that he was injured late he said he may be could've come back if he had to but snow was running it's this is the first podcast says it's beneficial here behind the curtain is that one trip to the IRS for Steph onto it super disheartening throw behind the scenes look at all the action of the show and more with your favorite competitors listening subscribe wherever you get your podcasts I don't know if it was enough to overturn it but you don't want to deal with anything that get sent to New York 'cause you'd Never WanNa do not this year not issue yeah not last year not two years ago replan forty niners they were playing the chargers and they had the right game plan with everything going on with the right and having the quarterback to his strengths for more date not not even in in the sub package when it when they had John Hargrave out there at times with a couple transactions today by the steelers I'm GonNa say before we move on obviously they had to put stuff onto it on I are they signed back Lt Walton who they drafted back in twenty four let's see daredevil hundred plus all purpose yards for Connor we're gonNA talk about connor a little bit from now with some stuff with him it was there's no game so the best thing to do is let's get excited about things that have happened already in two thousand nineteen for the steelers what are you anything you WANNA say about that rich before I the only thing I notice it game went on it was nice to see all of May and he he came to play fourteen I do believe yes twenty fourteen they didn't sign him beyond his rookie contract because it was kind of one of those positions that they like to keep as cheap as they can but Chris is saying we let's get out next back I'm telling you it'd be nice again for special teams and still going to be interesting to see if he can step game he's GonNa have to we're going to help on that line he's going to get more playing time to a point where they could have put him on I r and then had them return if he was going to be that long so right now if he doesn't play neck not this coming Monday but the following Monday that's Miami it's to a point where they they might only get one extra week from by not put him on that I are so we'll see how that goes there was a actually rapid fire but it's taken about five seconds after I clicked for them to come up we had zero sacks on duck no sacks given up k the day me to continue on for the rest of the season so we're going to start off with that now somebody somebody mentioned one tames brooks or something in there is the last name and the added an offensive Lineman at bounced around us from practice squads so those guys that are here for now who knows if they stick around here this was from the other room at your house on the other side of the room he really video games watching the podcast okay so that's that's your son he said to see if they could use them as a fullback my biggest thing with nick says it's to a point now he will have been six weeks including the bye week where he was out it's bulls interceptions Yeah we're taking the ball away we're giving our offense more opportunities now the offense has always made the most of those opportunities test score right off the bat yeah absolutely important took all the pressure off duck yeah well because and this was something I could keep going on the defended Passport Joe Hayden down the Red Zone was a defensive back dream where he laid out for that ball to knock it down that was pretty sweet did this week and actually was nice to see the defense hop in on one of those takeaways and Devin Bush you take it to the House and get that Defensive Score Jeff kept talking Shaw well that's enough about last week let's go on this is usually the part of the show where we get excited about talking about the next game but we can't get that excited the steelers did add two more players to the practice squad this week or today a running back that was in Falcons camp remember last name it's it's hyphenated above better hit okay that's because you you held off on coming out of the live chat because it didn't have to do with the past game but go slow fashion and you're like all right here we go again then what happens defense steps up now that was an interesting play because I mean they've had they've had the only game that they haven't had three plays or less on offense and their drive was against New England want to redshirt him this year if that's what they're trying to do but I'm not sure I gotTA throw this up here real quick lock drinker why don't you start talking about bringing up all right takeaways it was area weakness last year suddenly this year pick it up hey he's he he knew why not there was no whistle I don't even know if he saw the past there's no way from where Devon Bush was seven and they and they let the offense it's not just when they scored it I think it was the timing of that score don't you think that something that was important Oh what did oh to without they've they wanted to bring someone who is familiar we'll see if I was kind of looking forward to bugs get a few snaps but I don't know if they'll if they'd one field goal because of the turnover in San Francisco the rest have been punch or in Cincinnati it was it was the the fumble the turnover so they started in there so it was it was a good heads up play he did a great job of making sure he cut over and got two touchdowns zone that's how I haven't been able to you know part of what made that play as well that play was actually made a coming off the edge it was the pressure I I mean rivers was about the better but his running back with so deep and I don't think he wanted to get intentional grounding because he was in the pocket he had to throw it where he was did you hit that one which was due to looking back I'm looking I'm looking a brain ending that he could tell for sure that that was a backwards pass but he didn't hear hear whistle yeah he didn't hear whistle and that's what bothered me sometimes the NFL's this that was more of a heads up play I want to know if you WanNa if you did what I did or anyone else alive chat did this how many of you the sect and and had to get rid of that ball and had to throw it hi turned he intended to that to go backwards Paul I don't think he did I think it was the pressure that forced it backwards because that's the last thing you WanNa do in a situation like that because you don't you want an incompletion there's exactly right Jeff said the defense is going to have to win a game and one of the ways they can do that is by scoring points steelers won by seven defense put up they don't blow the whistle on place that they should then you can't trust that hearing the whistle means that the place still going on and we had pressure on him all day and it was the pressure that caused the fumble return for the touchdown and it was the pressure that caused now but I've been beaten this dead horse for a long time I wasn't gonNA bring it up tonight but I will anyway ineffective I drives I mean steelers were another three and out this week well yeah on the defensive drive the tip tip pass pressure or screaming at your TV pick pick it up pick it up vince waves just kinda standing there like and who had the heads up later on the tip pass for Bush's intercepted exactly exactly they were talking about that I think you know I tried to get on and listen to coach Tomlin Prescott have to sack the quarterback you just have to get you have to disrupt them you have to just constantly disrupt him Philip rivers is a possible hall of fame so the steelers get the defensive touchdown they turn around and get a turnover and the steelers go down and take that turnover and turn it into seven points and a lot of touchdowns zone for a long time chat out to Brian Anthony Davis had just described distracts me but that that was that was big right there talk about some numbers from fantastic win this past weekend and we're going to be moving forward we're going to talk about the next game coming up he knows to get rid of that ball he's not gonna take sacks but he had so much pressure on him I if you're you take those same pressures in about yes you know what I can't find it I think it was back too far where I can't get back there but yes people that we're talking about takeaways pressure on rivers slow I saw steeler fan seventy four and they're said one sack but it seemed like rivers was sacked just once in that game and it did because even though we didn't get to sort of got that and then they turn around and they come back out on the next drive and and what happens on the next drive on points off a three turnovers I said I'd take seventeen you know what I you know what I'll even take even more fourteen points off turnover and a kneel down quarterback and in many is which is funny because they want to anoint him more than the guys he was draft actually one super bowls but that's that's a whole different debate uh technically the steelers did not do quite as well with their points off turnovers this week they had fourteen but off of three turnovers like I know someone that said twenty one offers after the game right away so I'm hearing some of the wrap up on the radio that's the best way for me to make sure I'm getting it on time and I'm pretty sure it was joke and say hey you don't always have also the other games of the steelers have and their tax just it just happened to be that rivers is smart enough to get rid of the ball so that pressure was crazy it was great that was just a fantastic defensive effort all around but those takeaways you're right there's fifteen of them on the season and here's here's what's interesting out of that God I mean that's the thing they could've kicked off hill goal there you didn't want to go you wanted to end the game they got the turnover to end the game so so we need to continue to do more of as well when we ask those turnovers we need to try to get some touchdowns off of that and here's the other thing the St fifteen takeaways remember they started off week one with zero so that's fifteen takeaways in five games so that's that's three per game they went zero two five two three three so sent a motor throw this in their sense make a fitzpatrick has joined the so twenty on the season that's GonNa put them really close to that fifty sack number that continue as a team is is that pressure on the quarterback and sacking the quarterback the steelers grant the only had one this past week give you one so out of the other nine how about every three games four takeaways one per game and an extra one out of every three games me look at those look at those teams that they've had to play so far and they could have won a couple of those games so the fact that they've got twenty sacks against reason why they couldn't you know a lot of your pressures coming from the outside by debris T. J. Watt yeah Does it hurt lose to it short does but like you we talked about earlier if there's guys can come in and play line as a committee I don't see any reason why the numbers couldn't can this year and and honestly they did that against I don't want to get into it too much but you have to hit the steelers scheduled that's twelve that puts him up to twenty seven takeaways on the season which we talked about it in the off season we're like coming in with fifteen you've got to go it does now do I think it's going to continue quite at that pace that would be fantastic that would put him over thirty for the year I don't know if they can keep that like everyone was talking about how Jeeva Heart Gray was gonna you know this is going to be as big bust out year it hasn't been to this point but now he's going to have the chance to I said lots of pressure and in fact three of their six games they've only had one sack in three of their six games but they have twenty on the season loaded oh I mean well we didn't know San Francisco was going to be that tough of an opponent well we knew for the steelers they would be going to the west coast so you're talking about can they get close to thirty so that's something that definitely needs to continue as a team I was Gonna say the other thing that I think needs get on the field more not that not that he's been disappointing but a lot of teams have been paying attention to them so let's say hargraves having a great game you keep him out there a little bit longer host and all that other stuff but we wouldn't realize how good they were compared to everybody else but they already they already played the Patriots already played the seahawks they've already played the forty niners innuendo could end up close to that fifty fifty sacks yeah well this thing by doing it by committee is because they're all used to it then you can play the hot hand we talked about a lot in the in the preseason of the steelers have never gone three consecutive seasons with fifty sacks in a season that's what they have a chance to do that up I don't know if they can either but you know what would be really nice how `bout well let's just say they can have one more game where there's no turner or there's no takeaways it over twenty you've got to try to get man maybe they can scrape together twenty two takeaways is what we talked about on the steelers preview leading up to the season now I put him out there let her grave go to town on in in that guard tackle area so it does give them because right because you know it it hurts to have steph onto it go down you don't want to see that happen anywhere else but do you think they can get fifty six I don't see the past week which he did not do a terrible job they picked on him he didn't give up the touchdown he you know he he stayed in there I wouldn't say that Oh sustained derives was nice to see but but it's got it's gotta continue like this past game not like what we'd seen up until this point this season secondary so I think that's good let's talk about before we get an individual's let's talk about some team things that could be improved versions absolutely to me that was a huge huge steel this game to keep keep our offense on the field give the defense a breather with the match up where he's going to be then you wanNA keep hargrave more knows if if the if the other teams interior line struggles with of really big guys going into the week their third down conversion percentage was twenty eight point three percents and that had them I think like twenty ninth or something I believe on things that the steelers have done so far this year that that you'd really like to see those numbers improve as they move forward top one for me we touched on the improvement this game but I think it needs to continue to go and that's GonNa be those third down when they had eight but those numbers worth three for twelve three for eleven three for twelve three for nine three for nine until they threw in the eight for thirteen the better part of their schedule I'm thinking they can I'm thinking they can get to that fifty and I'm not gonNA say with ease but unless I don't want to even say Lance Williams actually sent me this stat I should be looking it up here Of where where they ranked you throw in this week where they were over fifty percent that brings them the way at twenty nine forty six but if you look at their other Games it was twenty seven twenty seven twenty four fourteen me twenty four minutes fourteen seconds I should probably I think they have that quality depth I think it does give them options to where you know the last thing you WanNa do is he's someone I it's not like it corner where already burns had to play the whole game is up to thirty four point eight on the season which means appearance from Lance Williams thanks lance average all as a result they jump from twenty ninth to twenty first let's say I'll I'll is doing great and batting down passes you keep him out there a little bit longer let's say mccullers is struggling with his a little handsy on a couple of those and got called on but overall he was he was okay he wasn't he wasn't a huge liability yeah but but when it comes to something like that just in one game so that they don't have to get up to be the tops in the league it's Kinda hard to do that now as bad as they started they need that number regard rushing in a game and it was also the first week that they went for more than twenty five carries game now I mentioned that before I'm trying to remember who was on custodian with cheaper star solid enough he played solid he had a few Like to call me Artie Burns plays yes it back and they put burns out there he's the guy the whole time and if he struggles you're in trouble yeah well if you're talking about defensive line where they rotate those guys in if go up and up and up and up every week it doesn't have to be eight of thirteen every time it doesn't have to be nine of ten but it can't be edits in three of their six games so that means they were given up at least eight minutes and time of possession in those games air got those stats did my guy rushed the ball rush for twenty five yards opd there's two points I mean we had low scoring games if if you scored thirty five more specifically this twenty three forty three and twenty five thirty four so they had a time of possession of under twenty six yup the two go hand in hand the steelers finally owned the time of possession game this past week they were up by just over eight minutes because they had it for thirty four months all better run the ball better that's exactly right that's another thing that can improve on they have let's see what what do I have here four hundred what a bunch of guys together ran this fantasy football league but we didn't run it through Yahoo didn't right through ESPN this was a stat thing this was stats how three of eleven they're just not going to because that's GonNa turn into what I'm I'm GonNa tie this right into another one came time of possession fifty nine yards on one hundred and thirty one carries K.. So I mean they have not this week was the first week that they've gone or what is it what do you think I'm GonNa say well if you're talking time of possession and third down conversion while the connection time of possession as well it's gotta be we gotta run GEICO is on the burning question about when we when we did our fantasy football back in college where it was someone struggling you just kind of ease out of the rotation what like they like they could it's a lot easier to cover someone having a rough game on the defensive line than it is in the which and five seconds it was the only game all season that they held the ball for thirty minutes they were very close against Cincinnati there are other win they were fourteen get I'm Gonna I'm GonNa give you some numbers with that up until this week steelers they had exactly three third down conversions in every game until this week twenty five completions in order to get those so those were the crazy stuff so we were big into stats then because we had to be in order to be successful and I it's funny that I ended for those of you that do fantasy football out there I would bet you that the majority of you might look a little bit at the stat lines that your players but they've made Sir Lazy now you just go in and see what points exactly you're just checking the points way we didn't know those points unless we looked at those stats ourselves we let in a newsletter for our fantasy games slid underneath your door you had write ups of the scoring that was done by hand it was it was in case you guys are wondering this was just before two thousand this did this so ninety eight that's I don't know how you're going to get anything with thirteen temps Seattle a game that they were winning at halftime sixteen attempts I think we started off it was it was more because your wife was a Grad student right Yep Yep and and that's when I was in college you were there now some of that at times have been because we've been behind in some games have kind of abandoned the run it's our league you had a running back had to you had to get twenty five carries and then he got two points and then he got a bonus point every five carries after that backs receptions and now we're taking aside just going to have to this is US broken out right now receptions it was none until you hit five and then we did a point for every reception the attempt against who they beat the bengals and then my head nineteen against the Ravens where they actually had more yards per rush in the ravens dead was it just those kind of numbers there yeah we're we're as we're guaranteed wins then yeah exactly and then you I mean of course because I was watching that night and yet you were the commission that's where he where you were you were the old guy the Grad Student Guy I'm trying to because you're running the ball more or you run the ball more because you're winning the game I think it goes it depends on the game sometimes one is true and sometimes it's the got six points for your touchdowns quarterbacks got four points for throwing a touchdown because quarterbacks were stacked anyway but the quarterbacks they had to throw for three hundred yards to get any yardage points and they had to have that being the one who was writing for the for the website because I used to remember you'd come back on a Thursday night to your dorm room and you what were you looking forward to but they had the big bounce back this week so it's there's actually a third thing I'm gonNA throw out there which I think they're all tied together okay and what's as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP Fran did a little bit better that was Rudolph's I start to attempts but the problem is twenty two attempts seventy nine yards that was tough their defense then they got up to twenty five in this game this past game some of those attempts were because we were ahead of the game but you knew we were gonNA run heavy anyway if we could sense yeah what do you think yeah I'd agree kind of depends on how the game plan out I'd like to this was started and it was a lot of fun anyway I'm sorry I went off in that range so it was coming back to rushing and that was the steelers rushing enough weekday was you gave you talked about match-ups coming up and everything it was we had newsletters printed on paper slid under the door on rushing attempts at a game they've won them so far this year so in years past that's been talked about number one college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly opt almost twenty two so of twenty one point eight is that was that was pretty good let's talk about some individuals eighty five for the steelers seems to be big so we do need to run but see that's also a cause and effect thing that's so difficult are you are you winning the game but based on that one hundred twenty four yards and they were going into week six only nineteen nineteen point okay carries per game but of course yeah you probably have the stats in front of you somewhere and turn off our attempts have been every game New England thirteen to temps I'm going to pick one this an easy one to pick however I think it plays in a little more than just this person and I I I felt like eight erupted you just throwing aside comment he got three points for one hundred yards rushing and then he got a bonus point for every was at twenty five or v Twenty five twenty five Yup on at this team they could and one of their better defenders was out in in Melvin Ingram Hey I'm Spencer Hall I'm Holly Let's let's let's talk him proof okay who do you think really needs to try to work on their stats and getting them improved ever five I remember you had you had terrel owens when he went nuts so that one game right talk eleven receptions no it was like it was like seventeen or something the easy right now somebody yeah everybody's GonNa Roll Coverage Juju until other guys show that they can beat them yeah who's going to step up yeah I think I remember when it a game on top like twenty three to nineteen you did you get those sometimes even in even in today's but they like you get five handoffs and gets employees go oh exactly yeah it's usually tufted to to get a word in with us so just throw out what the numbers were the steelers now on the season take care of someone who's misbehaving there so I was kind of looking to go do that but you are absolutely right with the whole thing with Juju you're you're spot on doc in the game and the Broncos have just run for like two hundred seven yards on them the week before right so we knew that they could they quite that point yet Gotcha Gotcha yeah sorry I had been looking at the live chat and someone's like hey can we kind of proving it is partly we need some of our other receivers to step up yeah because it's it's honor with with his yards per rush I think is something that could need need to improve I think it's GONNA improve as it gets more carries for sure but points at fantasy games in this league you're probably going to win so if you made the forty yet chains to win thirty guarantee and forward we wanna go positive or negative right off the Bat WanNa talk about it needs to improve or or needs to keep up the good work Jason I'm Ryan Nanny I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast it says in the script onto riff on what that means here's an interesting stat with connor do you realize that in half of the games this season he's had more receiving yards than rushing guts yeah that's been obvious but only risk Russian my team times for the Ravens Forty and then this past week they stuck with it and rush thirty six times so it's very simple when the steelers sits at twenty five those well we've got to say those touch passes from Jalen Samuels when they were running the wildcat against Cincinnati right those are rushing yards but they went down honest receiving yards right so it's just one of those one of those things that that I think it's going to improve but it doesn't have to be that or not so I think to go along with Ju I think we could have all also mentioned this with the with the rushing stats is James And basically what I mean is this all every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school we also do but he's he did what he needed to do for the steelers when when Connor was little bit banged up so I think Juju I've been hearing this a lot from land's that's just one of those things that that's going to have to to to improve sorry as I'm there I'd like to I like to think the Johnson is right there on the cusp of being able to step in and take some of that pressure off Juju but we'd not on his shoulders I think get Jalen Samuels back yet him carries Benny Snell showed that he could he could do all right it's not like he's setting the world on fire I think Juju is getting open further down the field because teams aren't as concerned with him as that happens 'cause they're not especially this past week wiz he's GonNa be five hundred yards for the year he's GonNa make more than that for year but part of grief forty right now part of Jews numbers improved doing the or or or having seventy six point five yards a game rushing take away the last game going unless they're at sixty seven so that came out Yeah I used to it yeah that's what we do so not used to everybody in our family being in the same room in there being any silence he's saying Juju is getting open he's just not getting the ball thrown its way also gotta look at it this way and some of those passes have actually been run place yes I say that a lot that if it's to a running back and it's kind of like just a little swing pass getting them the line of scrimmage and they're catching it behind the scrimmage that's a lot like a run yeah how's that much different than a toss sweep exactly it's kind of like I mean he I think that he would it's nice to have status touchdowns but as long as they're succeed eating you know if he's not gonNA get numbers and they're gonNA lose games that's just a double whammy you know some some guys wouldn't care if they lost as long as they got their good numbers but we don't have I ju Ju teaches numbers just aren't what we've been expecting from deejays numbers I forgot who mentioned earlier in the live chat us exactly he he yeah I mean it's almost the point where you can say vases back yeah I mean they haven't put them in tough situations which has been that they had all the confidence that Juju could get hit with the shot if you look back at that the long touchdown deontay Johnson which one was that I'm trying to remember which game so that's that's the range very head such struggles last year so exactly exactly so that's just one of those things players like that anymore and our team which we won't even talk about so those two guys that it's not terrible but it would be it would it would be I don't know that just came through or not because I'm John Double play back from Youtube you can have a timeout Mr I might say earning that's just one of those those things that that should come more as we're going not have been expecting or you might have been hoping for that has done a nice job needs to keep it up oh the first one off the ball why don't we talked about the we thought would be funded to mention and that is someone that I've been wanting to get rid of for the last couple of years and that's one Jordan Berry sixty two or something like that crazy he had one fifty nine this past week what was his best punt the best punt was the one that went thirty five yards and pit them at the one remember throw for Rudolph Tatum for the Dutch down so Judas having effect on the game it's just he's not getting his stats I think cares uh he's averaging forty seven point one yards per punt Kay he his average is gone forty five point six forty four point eight fifty two point three forty nine you kind of talked a little bit about this one before we came on air we're GonNa you could go on and on and on about the players that need to keep doing what they're doing on the defense so think outside the box we're GONNA we're gonNA let the defensive ones up to people in the live chat here in a minute let's we're going to think outside the box who someone who's had a really good season that you but it was where him and do durant deep cross and there was three defenders and all three of them shaded over to do and that left Donte Johnson wide open it's not that we don't usually look like idiots we were used to look like idiots but not not in front of a hundred people in the live chat that's the problem I'm going to piggyback right off that with the point five forty three point seven five and forty six point two five now sometimes the average Herschel bit he's got a long I think of like he's back I don't WanNa say he's back because I'm watch we'll go out next game and he'll missed three field goals in look like idiots yeah Williams who goes in and breaks down the all twenty two like crazy sends me still shots and all kinds of stuff and he say the problem is not with Juju getting open really nice they've put him in really good situations he's he's one hundred percent he's eleven eleven field goals and twelve for twelve an extra points Blah exactly it was the punt that won the game and if you think about it if that ball goes in the end zone do you really want them starting at the twenty I mean putting their backs against the wall and I kept saying Oh but they're not having kicking along when he does have a forty nine yarder and he has four four field goals of forty yards or more out of those eleven all they're nervous up we can't hold in the end zone we can't even try to do that or we're going to give up the safety that does a lot to team I mean and that was two different the second that's all right here we are Yep I found it Baas actually has no problem reached the end zone and kickoff and actually drove a couple through the end zone the other night times in the last two games they've been they've pinned the ball one so that is that is what is so I mean he's been areas steeler fan seventy four knew it was coming K. someone else might say I there Jordan Berry just I can't oh I went over the live chat now there's a lot of good stuff going on in there yeah well although you know since I talked about Baas it was up a little bit vodka drinker about what was up with Baas not getting kickoffs into the end zone actually wanted to touch on that just to just burke steelers that's thirteen takeaways in four games I think that means so that's something that have to continue that yes nice to see an improvement in the next ten games from what we got in the first six so I was I couldn't wait to sum that up very good way to sum that up yep so we what was up with Baas because he was only he was only taking five yards for run up on a kickoff in his kicks were ended up right around I really started paying attention to some strategy by the steelers on bosses kickoffs actually it was Dave Colin I watch him a game and I was wondering go steelers here we go tune in telephone subscribe see you guys next time I keep wanting to say San Diego the ending came Sunday night in la or in Heinz Field West that the steelers could the end sorry a corner backs while as long as their quarterbacks to Camp Sutton on the outside on one side with already burns on the other exactly exactly so I felt hey your defense had been doing the job you you put your defense on the field to start overtime the week before job on the kickoff coverage pretty good the other question was some people like they didn't have faith in buys was the end of that all way out there I mean yes boss has been perfect but was that was that the situation you wanted to put him in last night I actually produce the hangover I try to do it bubbly and it did work very well to start but eventually made it home to where I was torn up questions I was kicking gets put out there you can type it in and put hit the dollar something put any amount of money went in there goes towards show don't feel like after do it but it is have gone for it on fourth in shorts they could have gone for super long field goal or they could have punted depend on deep and field and try to pinned the team deep and the steelers have been doing a good job with that if you don't have the right kit coverage guys it's not GonNa work but they've been doing they've been timeouts and it was obvious that the steelers weren't going to put it in duct chance and say go get us a first down to win they were gonNA run run run is what they were going to and he made a great play Oh what a great play on the onside kick as well Oh yeah that one got me I would not have I wouldn't have done it onside kick there because they had to three oh I mean they were it was desperation mode it was great so I want to bring up some stuff from the live chat how about this was great Cam said I'm doing great wore the play even happened on a on a group text I have with Jeff and Lance I said what are you guys doing here and what did all three of us did you hear about Bosa didn't yeah you do realize it filer well sometimes pf rankings means something sometimes they don't but filer I always mess this alliteration up steeler fan frenzy with flip says way more impressed with filer run blocking blocking pass protection how much he's playing well I mean people might not some didn't realize that Joe Haden left that game early they'd had none of their normal starting quarterbacks out there because you wanted to put it on your defense why don't you give them great field positions to go to go out there and and the game and that's what they did two plays later with the interception so yeah exactly they're basically that's what the ravens were doing to us is that they were getting that big time letting their guys get down I think he'll be back Joe Haden especially with the bye week I think he should be good steelers by adding out that he wasn't going to make the trip with the team because he had practiced all week just in limited capacity I thought I had to go in and change when healthy yeah if healthy if health I think Steven Nelson that really surprised me I thought that was shocking is going to be scary when healthy what do you think of that yeah I kinda agree yeah option for you all snowman puts five dollars and a tip jar and said thanks day forgetting those turkeys out of the chat room last night and tonight yeah permission from one Jeff Hartmann so he's gotta listen back to this show and tell us what he thinks it's much nicer doing a show with somebody else even if it's a lot of all the time but every once in a while here something I gotTa Talk About Steeler Fan Seventy Four Ivy League look yep data live chat we don't want a bunch of people like that in there I'm glad I could do that for you a snowman here steelers Oh this is the time I need to say this because one just popped up if you want to use the super chat feature to make sure that your question gets answered or your your statement and the only people that really paid off for people when the chargers play the dolphins and that was interesting because the dolphins didn't have an early lead on that one the highest rank defensive Lineman for the steelers is that called me a little bit by surprise but then you watch game Sunday night and you see it well gene balked yeah that we've been seeing that don't just give him the ball on the twenty five yard line and see if they can run it out we'll be hold them to the twenty hey five extra yards for us like that he he's he's kind of flying under the radar and in doing so it's actually because playing really well yeah so he with good old captain underpants saying are secondary yeah it kind of plugs things up there on the back end and allows the guys up front to do what they're best at mass get after the quarterback exactly exactly so all right you know what I'm going to have to do well first of all rich is a very busy guy I know that he's a he's an extremely busy but I also have to get if you WANNA go look at it we are down to one hundred and three entries now six of those remind 'cause I am still alive I don't know that I've ever just try to know how to super chat feature another super super chatting and they're kind of like that one to see if we can narrow people down so it's getting tough a lot of the good teams all this week isn't so bad because there's some teams left out there that has a pretty good match ups you're not hearing about it you're not you're not hearing his name because he's getting beat you're not seeing him on it replays getting beat yeah not a lot of penalties my inactive prediction at the last second before that came out because I was going to have him active because he practiced each day you know even though it was questionable and then he gets downgraded out as long as the survivor pool I was Seattle which was little bit made me nervous early on but Seattle I just needed him to take down the browns. Now here's a here's a we are down to this came out this afternoon the website it was really late in the day because we had some other things happened with the steph onto it and whatnot but but it's Steven Nelson the off season and training fitzpatrick they went from secondary that we felt like was full of holes to something that just seem I get is a strength of the defense you get knocked out before we before this I took I took the chargers at the wrong time I should've picked this past week and let them not me out there then remaining slots six of them are mine that means we're actually down to ninety seven contestants from five hundred and eighty seven so we lose I'm not GonNa win this thing even if I'm the only one standing there is one of the person they'll be the winner when it when it comes to the football but that's who I took so it's one hundred three on your first round pick and that year's fourth round pick makes what we gave up for for Minka look like peanuts now yeah because so just to bring up some some news I did see this before the show about Ramsey being traded to the rams for net this coming years first-round pick the fall pointing but that's what's going on there we're getting down to it WHO's we'll see if we get to that week fifteen because in week fifteen is when people have to make to Pixel week Rogers knock me out every year it seems like I don't know why have any faith in Philip rivers but yep I was out before yeah Jay punt punt the ball you know part of you wants to say I'll go for it and ended that's great I'd rather pin them deep give him the ball but as the buys come on and people use up teams it's getting tough so let's see what else we have going on in here numbers make sure we were all set up something that the ravens might have also made a trade here recently I don't know if that's true or not I could I could possibly try to get that real quick defensive ranking is based on the amount of yards given up so in a game like this on Sunday the steelers actually gave up more yards than they usually do because they were winning for so long so that's that's kind of a tough thing that's that's a good question you know what easiest way to have cast face honestly is what you have a quarterback on their rookie deal yeah so that's that's when you have a quarterback on a rookie deal or a team I needed a little bit better there so hey I'm the editor in chief of the verge host of the verge cast we even revamping the more and more lately and coming out episodes twice a week I mean yeah we traded a we gave him a sixth to seventh but we also traded a fifth to get a fourth so we kind of upgrade we've also been talking a lot of reporters and academics the major pressing policy issues in tech like facebook's content moderation around doing great he tubes harassment plan or lack thereof sometimes even a third bonus episode on Tuesdays and talked to
Scarlet Jimmies Ep. 5: Rams Postgame
"Hours on the ground with all thirty two teams plus national writers you know and love like Jay Glazer Mike Sando and Mike Lombardi the athletic is telling stories you won't find in today's episode is brought to you by the Atlantic the athletic is a subscription based sports news site delivering in-depth sports coverage for diehard fans featuring NFL Welcome to another episode athletic dot com slash SB nation that's the athletic dot com slash SB nation marched down the forty niners downfield seven plays all runs touchdown what were your initial thoughts after is quarterback rating of sixty and he just it seemed like McVeigh wanted nothing to do with having the ball in the air turned around but I'm not GonNa lie I thought I thought that opening drive was the statement drive for the rams and I thought well this is where they turn their season around probably pretty much I've been pretty much dragged for having those thoughts about him for two years now since he you know since McVeigh's taken over but this is one of those games where it's just though this is about how I think we all expected it could go and it started off that way with just a little bit of a sinking feeling so glad that quickly yeah I thought they were GonNa have their way with the thought the rams having an extra few days to prepare plus a forty niners coming off a short week I just thought what about him I've never been a big fan of his I just didn't I didn't like him coming out of the draft that high and I got ten days to prepare for an opponent you think especially with the guy like Sean McVeigh that he would come out swinging and come out with more something better than Jared Goff plenty to cheer about so we're GONNA get into the game a little bit to talk about some of the things that we liked so when we did not like obviously was the rams drives of scarlet Jimmy's forty-nine beat the rams twenty two seven so this is episode five and I'm joined by a rich the era zona full of forty niners fans in is pretty crazy man people are just tie five at each other chance after first downs was pretty entertaining and the forty niners gave in what I thought this was my brain works in really weird ways I actually bet the forty niners after the ram score because whenever thrown on there not much man how are you doing world that was that was probably the most enjoyable game for me no doubt I watched the game at a bar what did you think that all the rams are going to have their way with Fernandez defense or did you think that you know what did you tell me the pressure on him that he wasn't gonNA play well because anytime the team gets pressure on him you never plays well so they did exactly what I thought they would I definitely thought that we would see a more desperate team today from the home team that is I thought that there will be more wrinkles like you mentioned because man he was not good today Jerry Goff finished the game with seventy eight passing yards US thirteen for twenty four no touchdowns no interceptions was sacked four times in put him under pressure when he did pass and it didn't turn out well I mean I think by the fourth quarter you know he had seven completions of ten pass attempts four times he didn't he didn't turn the ball over at least not an interception but they didn't need to get they didn't need to force them into interceptions because everything forty niners defenses on real man they can eliminate mistakes and they can force you the mistakes and that's what we saw a lot of Goffin even look staring at you right in the face if you're rams fan when when are you going to admit that this guy is probably not the answer I just didn't think he played that well and I knew that if the golf averaged three point three yards per attempt that is tough to do man and you just he seems spooky starting to see that because there's nothing that he could do usually mcvay will scheme his guys open schemers receivers open and I don't know if it had a lot to do with the office of line in opening drive and I know that they had plenty of success on the ground but when you don't draw back to passages that scream something to me man and I I didn't think that golf he was throwing was either ducks or hitting the ground you know five yards in front of the receiver so it just it was a vintage Jerod Golf game for me I just don't think he's ever looked that good and like a top five safety I feel very confident in that he doesn't have the flashy plays he's not gonNa have the interceptions a pass breakup but may he mcvay had confidence golfing that's what we saw throughout the game so let's let's talk about golf a little bit man is your takeaway from this game for him just confirmed everything I've ever on those the back to back from that Jimmy Warren got those plays on third and fourth down you can put your safety on the other teams best receiver that's no you didn't there's no reason for us to beat around the Bush here he's terrible I feel I fly McVeigh is oh boy man Brandin Cooks Coober Cup all afterthoughts today cooks had eighteen yards receiving cup had seventeen yards receiving and I think he finished the day with what did he finished with thirteen thirteen of twenty minutes under one hundred yards he was sacked you can see what it's doing for everybody else upfront and there was a play that I covered him I filmed remarkable this weekend about that where buckner the second level of the defense that's May we're talking about a little a little bit off the air here just the difference between Quantum Alexander friend he had that fumble recovery to open the second half and then another guy that didn't end up on the stats sheet that that much but was probably Nick Bosa went up that ten point lead seventeen seven is seemed like the only man the the speed on and trust him to make plays manages says a lot about just what the forty niners thrown on the field in I would actually credit the second wow I where do you start I think probably upfront I would go with Eric Armstead I thought played really well up front but in a good way where he's taking guys out or making the running back cut-back Warner's playing fast whiskey tart he is playing it'd be another one that I would pick their I believe at two sacks as well so yeah Ford had that the Strip sack which man I love that Wade Phillips influence in the secondary what some of the things that are doing this season and that's credit to Joe Woods because he coached under that system in seem scared when you're single rattled in the pocket he had started fadeaways missing low just wasn't really confidence throws him once the forty niners and then that's when quantities comes in and blows up I think it was Nick Chub and they get the ten yard sack on on Mayfield so there there's a lot wake forest book this year what would you say I believe it I think buckner is drawing a lot of attention especially from interior offensive lines but push that right tackle or that are that left tackle around a lot I mean he just just bowl rushed him into the backfield several times and then Dee Ford ause to Def- to blockers in income Fred Warner draws a third offensive lineman so you've basically got from guard senator to guard all blocking just two guys will fill his ron his run he will take on a blocker make tackle just so many little things that he does that allows a forty nine you know even marginal players in some spots but that defensive line has just been a nightmare for other teams you and you can of that going on I think it I'm not concerned about it because I think they're doing exactly what they thought teams would do to Buckner just giving you know the way he's played the last couple you know whenever whenever a team will run trips against this style of defense they could just have their way with you and forty niners aren't just spot dropping and pettus because you know he he's been quiet he has had many consider he has not been consistent this season but he had a few big catches today see them playing together as a unit it's man this defense is something serious I will say that yeah you can really see a lot of the Blah Blah ball season so what this front seven is legit but the back seven when you see the route so they take away he I don't know how you find ways to get him the ball more whether that is down the same where that is on quick routes but this year compared to last year and largely whoever they're throwing out there just night and day Kwan is aggressive like reckless Solid blitzed more than usually dozen and I wish I had the numbers in front of me but when they blitz when they walked down Warner Alexander tackles and got inside the five believe it was looking at it right now but he makes a couple of good moves and then he had that one like you were saying in the back of the end zone going to win whether that's buckner whether that's arms whether that's one of the edge guys and just puts so much stress on the office and they just can't hold up they haven't been at this point and it's just unfortunate that you know they're not able to get him the ball more but I do think the debt is partly last couple of weeks have been under or get one Williams who's actually pretty blitz or one of the safeties it just gives every body one online and somebody wins that's just period somebody not as pass dependent as you'd like them to be just because of the past Russia's they've been facing you know you had myles Garrett last week and then Erin but I think that'll change once they start seeing you know not as good of a pass rush from some teams like we've got the redskins coming up who he could have easily had two scores if had just broken you know maybe a foot the other way for him because he had long nineteen yard catch where he broke a couple of Donald this week and it's understandable that they would kind of rely more on the short passing game and Pettus is more of an intermediate receiver unless you can find a way to get him a ball in space but again he's a really good athlete he had one against Marcus Peters we ran out route really nice route is kind of Peter off there in created separation underneath uncovered three they're they're running these quarters and have these checks where they still have the numbers advantage and you can do that when you have four really good pass rushers with Wade Phillips before he took over as a defensive coordinator there and then you know San Francisco brings him in to do the passing game stuff for the defense and it's really made huge on a short route or something but he is a guy that can laterally and vertically stretch intermediate area the field and if you can't get him the ball in those spots so it's it's been perfect marriage for sure the agree let's talk about Dante route really nice designed by Shanahan got him wide open broke seventeen tackles give or take and that guy man he six doesn't matter he's still he's running routes to yards before the sticks breaks tackles gives a first down and that is a sign of a true super on and he's you know he's just a couple of inches away from getting that second foot down and that would have easily been a touchdown but that's that's what we always thought he could be in what he should be old reliable is the best way to put it I actually would prefer kitto being a down to down target where you know he's going to get the ball third uses and he's not going to be quite as productive because they're just not able to get him the ball and the show on the short you know five yard throws like they can for Brita or somebody you realize well they're gonNA probably try to get the ball out of Garoppolo his hands quicker so it might not happen right away and we saw that's a sign of a really good pass rush close and they're not thinking about the quarterback they're talking that ball out if I were to tell you Eric Armstead has honors to be this versatile he is he's very impressive what who's most suppress planning defense for you too the way they scream around it absolutely man in so I feel like this game more than any of the other past Games anywhere else no ads or click bait just great sports writing join today for the inside story on your team forty percent off your annual subscription to the best scores running around all year so good for them that they're able to scheme around that and I think solemn knows I think he's a really smart guy it's really showed this year what he can do with a first down but he had one in the back of the end zone where he just jumped out of the gym almost came Dallas it play before that he actually did go up and get it the threat at any point in the field george kill eight targets eight catches hundred three yards how long forty five yard where he lined up at fullback and just rent a little flat this game with three catches on six targets forty five yards I had long twenty one yard or their fill like each of those catches went for oh aren't aren't very good so I would I would I would I would hope that they could get pedal pedal pettus more involved and we're seeing a lot more quarters would you agree with that absolutely running a lot more cover for this year and then the happened years pass in years past I feel like prince so I think there's a guy I'm sorry go ahead no I was just going to say there's no doubt about it that woods makes is making a big difference yeah this is good what would you see from what we've always thought he could be in that was he finally had that game today even though he didn't get in the end zone and he could have you know see if they can maybe force them
Scarlet Jimmies Ep 5: Panthers Postgame
"I welcome to another episode of scarlet Jimmy fresh off of a thirty one to fourteen victory over the panthers I unkown torture bugs what I see from Kyle Shanahan is that exact same against opposing defenses the magnifying glass is handy and he will highlight those weaknesses in a hurry so I know by next door neighbors when we were kids they would take magnifying glasses put them under the sun and when how here's how I described Kyle Shanahan today to somebody because he just does a fantastic job at finding the other teams weaknesses Scott Obviously Scott Lady who Who I share podcasts with and you know him and I we've been discussing it we think are a good like above average to good defense at the third do you agree with that did you feel like the panthers were that good coming into this game defensively no not really and I mean you in klay caller like Shanahan it's just second nature to him to exploit those deficiencies and you saw that throughout the game I mean it wasn't even like money at some points it was just like essentially the forty niners were conducting a practice session avenue it was remarkable like how they were just executed the forty niners go on seven plays seventy five moriarty just five five minutes forty six yard dry or sorry five minutes forty six seconds we uncovered in reverse defense there's just a lot of areas where I eat there's holes that can be exploited for a you know an offensive designer down the NFL for you I guess it really is there's no way to know these looking Kanter's foreign to Dr Seven nothing and from there they don't look back but that could have all gone a different way if the project didn't bounce another way but again that's what we're seeing from cat scratch reader billy what's going on there hey doing pretty well you know still trying to decipher how last four hours are there is a monsoon quite this game especially man so the way the ball bounces this this is pretty much summing up the forty nine year season somewhere in the sun and the twelve range because they still generate a total turnovers and you saw one early in this game too but overall like as a unit the linebackers and safeties toward the end and so yeah I mean overall like I was a little disappointed more so with the passing game than offensive line up there like mall and dudes like it's not like that at all so yeah I mean overall like little discouraging but what are you going to about it position and they were just able to capitalize on that and essentially the game was almost out of reach and yeah I I was a little complaining about it on twitter just make some jokes about how the panthers and finding ways and the that's the thing that was for me it's like the forty nine hundred missing but they're starting tackle so it's not like they have like the two thousand fourteen they still have a lot of issues dramatically even Steven Ruis of USA Today who does a really good job he's been covering a lot of the issues That can very first third down at the game ball goes off kindle barnes hands deflection caller whatever you WANNA call it straight up into the air lands writing George kills US forty niners are studying the tone early and often in these games obviously we're not counting the game against Washington sure has he like how how has his luck been before today because clearly he did not look like a player that hadn't turn them over at all does all surprising to me given you you know how much San Francisco schemed him out especially the passing game you saw him gangland frustrated he having some you know extra words with Gods assist in Kyle and hasn't turned the ball over so this game's going to be close just did you see Alan Stat Line but as a player anything McCaffrey did I think the running game is going to be you know they're kind of bread butter has like the year goes on but today due to the nature of how the interception and that was one of the big things that the media was leading up to well for enters they haven't played much mini get offense he threw like two or three or -ceptable balls I mean one of them actually did throw an interception but they got bailed out because of a defensive penalty does she like if you can give him like that one read and he can just like sling it but I think that there was a little bit too much hyperbole on his are trying to establish a run down twenty seven and twenty plus points but overall like McCaffrey still ran the ball pretty effectively in my opinion he's GonNa find a week and he's GonNa make you die a slow painful death and that's exactly what happened to the panthers offense today but you kind of talked about tea and the game against the The box and London Heathrow like two or three hundred -ceptable balls and then one was actually forming says because I think that mainly to do with the defense putting the offense and really good positions would turn overs and then McCaffrey being we still had some success on the ground so why you're paying women the panthers not able to continue their success yes so I mean obviously honors come out Scripts great opening drive has the panthers running all over the place and the chicken with their head cut off done what to stop they score then up there with Sean McVeigh has like being unstoppable and in some respects I expect to seven nothing and then obviously the next you know Dr Right I mean he he's certainly been really fortunate by not throwing innocent without having an interception up until today and I think today was essentially like essentially a regression he goes three and out and growth those interception to kettle. Excuse me to Keith and Carolina gets three point after that I just felt like you know it was ended up being a touchdown reception Curtis Samuel because he kinda just adjusted much better than the defensive back so his ball placement has certainly been an issue the past few weeks inc kind of the linchpin of the offense so yeah I mean today did not really shock me I think it was essentially just a combination of factors finally just wearing it you talked about how Carolina has hasn't been able to basically deal adversity all this season San Francisco has been pretty much the opposite of that this defense has been put in some and back towards a mean because I would say I start against the cardinals he is pretty flawless but I think Arizona is going to do that to a lot of Jimmy's the panthers were essentially and a trailing condition and you know to you know the interceptions gave San Francisco like plenty of you know really good field demoralizing loss just like today and you know for me I thought you know maybe when they made it twenty seven to thirteen they'd be able to go back out there and you know issue this year is he makes up his mind he gotTA hitch double clutched and he had this wide open like there's there's literally nobody lineup overpayments runs an hour out ah six times now never gets talked about exactly so yeah just going back to the start so forty the panthers have the ball in the forty one yard line hold Carolina to a field goal for arm say it gets a big sack on third down and keep it respectable in some ways but they weren't able to do that defensively I don't think it was an effort issue either I'm not really wanted to call out individual players for that and next drive for Nateghi sack Nick Bosa who had a pretty okay game today I'd say decide not to shabby from this team early on they're just they're they're getting bounces that they didn't get last year turnovers obviously playing a big story defenses all over the place but man it just like you mentioned terrible spots by the offense this season and it just seems like over and over they keep they keep answering but for Carolina you feel like it's the opposite obviously just a collection of just failure from premature every unit maybe special teams kind of play well but still I don't really think in May for the forty niners all day and not just running lanes they were wide receivers running wide open down the field fifteen twenty yards it was I dare aggressive I mean borderline reckless where they are just going to go all out in one direction Kyle Shanahan saw that house Shanahan would pump one and then you mentioned the the first play of the second driver the forty niners interception saw that play be g under through for the game was going the turnovers which set up the forty niners and really good position and just you know the inability execute offensively throwing the ball. I think that just kind of this knackered reflection of its I mean I'll go back to last year on Thursday night when they went into Pittsburgh and they just got the doors blown off them similar to the they had one of the best offenses of all time it was just essentially they're over aggressive tendencies with their linebackers two flows George Kitto if you guys watch go back and watch the play he just had his mind made up he was throwing that ball to kill no matter what and that that's kind of been years and watching them go up against cal Shanahan they faced twice a year when he was offensive coordinator with the Falcons and going back to sixteen when Matt Ryan was an MVP niners go touchdown and six plays seventy five yards I think the most demoralizing part for defense is when you just have no all season what did you see from Carolina like what were the issues yes so for me it it just goes back to watching the panthers like over the Oh hard to play side which essentially just create so many voids on the opposite side of the field today like you saw that's I don't really think that was an issue at all I think that when you're going out coach out-schemed that's the result you're gonNA get so you know Ohio put the game essentially how to reach for you know the panthers in order for them to kind of establish their run yeah Allen came into this game without having I know back the other he would use motion to get Carolina Florida wonder at him they had no chance in there were some serious running lanes have a fifty burger and essentially like you know a few things went wrong and everything just essentially compared soften it led to such a a touchdown that I think deebo Samuel was that was scored in that trap play I mean just Shanahan being able to just kind of US yeah outside of that game against the you know the first game against the cardinals he's hasn't really had many moments where he can look back on and kind of you know Todd Gurley was pretty quiet but I think the rams run game they Russia one hundred fifteen hundred sixty yards because same thing McVeigh was able to Kinda dictate chill in the air defense was not very good think they've kind of thing something's up since then but secondly I would say that if you watch the game against Jacksonville Gotcha defense that plays a ton of Zone so it really doesn't resonate well with me and Ron Rivera shot at stopping the opponent and that's what it seemed like just when I say chicken with their head cut off you talked about this a little bit where the panthers are a very aggressive defense in that but it's just like the the mindset in what they're being kind of you know taught to do because you just saw on like that in the game in the run-up to me on twitter is that Shanahan is gonNA script out the first few days of his first drive is probably big difference considering how poor the offense and defense were yes so after that sacked by armstead forty it I'm not sure why he didn't go there but that we talked about adversity a little bit so to for the defense takes over short field you know help him can validate his resume essentially I mean he's a decent thrower in the intermediate range get ten fifteen yard area sanders goes in motion linebackers run screen to the edge to get to Sam centers like Thomson polls he in just from that experience but I guess not yet and that Deebo play came after speaking of adversity so to start the second half makes one cut in waltz into the zone so yeah that that was a great timing of that play call but again the forty niners great job answering and that was offense is backed up you meet you takes a sack after left tackle justice school gives up a sack panthers marched down and that the up the opposite sidelines just GonNa be able to take advantage of it and I go back to week one when they face the the rams at home and I intersection of the game how how late was the on that throw because for me like I'm just looking at from a defensive back point of view and back the Panthers Defense a game board to move players out of position I mean it's I mean demoralizing to just Olson was running a corner out and you had leverage on the corner who was essentially in two minds there with the flat concept and score after a long run by Chris McCaffrey and he also punched him and I believe on the East two point conversion right McCaffrey it's head and the and that's just the way it goes though really surprised me he also had like seven Faubus apps by pre-start motions and play action which just allows them to create something explosive runs you saw that again today and I was hoping the panthers would learn it was also kick out a supposed to rugby depends aliveness Deibel runs underneath the defense oh we had a bet with cat scratch reader for whoever has the better game for each team's defensive line will get to pick the display name and the forty niners had so we had three different stats it was way where once things start to go bad that's all she wrote the ship basically Stinks from there is that true yeah I I I would I just always had this tendency to have you know get up field in their rushes and their lanes which creates so many voids and I don't know why they do it because they're pretty and he is confident enough to be able to sit on a route or giving a speed receiver but tells you technique over athleticism's disgorge Okay yeah that's that's what I thought so adversity twenty seven thirteen the other team has momentum and forty nine Ers don't flinch was he did a great job of just trusting what he saw it was a slow developing hate concept like curl flat concept if I remember way and I it was it Samuel me to read that to know the forty niners defensive line outplayed the panthers line so billy how what does a fan of the team but at the same time and you're just you're in awe of it because it's done so excellently so yeah I mean just going back to it like the I mean the coverage was really tight so I mean overall not great just for my defensive standpoint I love the fact that Moseley as trusting what he sees tight by Moseley and so like if you came off that really but then she could of anticipated also on that corner out with the corner squatting on the opposite side is almost as if like you mentioned practice from the jump but it was almost as if they're they're playing on air just wha what was what was the problem in this has been an over aggressive ax tackles for loss and it was quarterback head so don't have the quarterback adds yet on ESPN doesn't tally them correctly back and they have a touchdown drive with their own in that was capped off by the twenty yard track play by Deebo so on that play manual sanders is lined up behind Samuel occurred is Nick Balsa I mean he's he's certainly a special player but I mean you made a pretty funny point over the weekend corner So I feel like you know some respects he probably clean pocket too that's the other thing that was a little annoying about it because I mean the coverage was I mean yeah I don't want to even discuss the other guys and defensive line because I certainly think it helps having him having them you know kind of just given so many like opportunity now that would it's a better option than throwing where he did just wasn't a good throw as to like feast on other land or linemen and no like I just haven't he's a special player like there's really not much else you can say no seriously though honestly like I honestly rated him really highly as like a prospect coming out and I just the Games on the way we we just what we're saying right now is again we're an aggressive defense and that's how we're GONNA play but it's considering to hear that when you know Jacksonville Burns has been decent so far for the panthers so like he certainly like going into card field but it just speaks like how good he is ah I think he was intimidating the curl flat concept because I think Dj Moore was sort of just like a clear out route Running down the seam there but on the opposite side I think was his second raid I mean he's GonNa Win Defensive Rookie of the year and that kind of speaks and it's not like he's running away with it either there's other really good defensive players like Bush in Pittsburgh Josh Allen and of how well he played today obviously you have the interception which was a very athletic like just to be able to get your hands up come down with that but I mean he's having plays where he's not really like producing like a ton of turnovers and I know I know it sucks like really he judged defenders that way but like the voters do so when the easy how good he is at this age so both apprentice the game with three sacks and that honestly doesn't does he does this every game he didn't do it against Washington again because obviously feel conditions were didn't allow them to but that's why I was kind of leaning towards is it thirty two I believe it was Curtis Samuel he threw two for me when I was watching it live they definitely wanted to that into the game with four he had three Shaq Barrett has been feels like he's been stuck on nine since the AD although sacks in one game and that was the League leader company in today and even if it doesn't get completed their place up all right towards asylum were only a receiver can catch than maybe you know it's probably an incompletion but Stephon Sacks Carolina three nine hundred nine tackles for loss Carolina had seven so just by that alone they won you did not is going to continue to be on TV especially if they keep this win streak going in you know just being visible that that does make a difference whether we want to admit it or not going back to that adversity where the panthers had at twenty seven thirteen and it was a brigger where he gets three sacks it'll be tough to keep him out of that compensation no I mean I think you're spot on I don't even a guy like gill no is it prisoner the moment is it too much hyperbole to say a rookie can win defensive player of the year because if he has another game where he just pads stats now is he gonNa run away with like the defensive rookie of the year but he could potentially be the defensive player of the year just with all the production just how he's able to impact games like it's kind of cute that said might be the best we're not going there right now we're not doing that right this is all about Nicholas more is probably the best defender on the best defense or probably the other really good defense legally he's obviously good for film junkies and people who really liked to watch game but literacy like boasts coming up these game changing plays and the SAX on a statute and all that stuff like I mean I think he has a strong case for it I mean it beating the left tackle being the right side almost like instantaneously office snap in House Allen's lab but these aren't like this isn't the only time that happen second down second in short Shanahan in his genius showed again where Kiddo caught a pass down the scene and that was pretty much what we saw all season will today I guess going back to earlier part in the game the Emanuel Mosey interception I was called Kyle Posey I'm joined today by an opponent blogger and that's what we're GONNA do over the next couple of weeks just change it up and bring somebody from the other team I'm joined by Billy Marshall especially continues like as he's going nuts and I expected to it's it'll be he has a chance to lead the league in sacks seriously so he can it certainly has a chance and it will be interesting if he is able to like you mentioned keep coming up with these plays because he's going for it and we just just going back to Shannon's able to be so multiple industry Lou guys around very simple the forty niners I believe him in Sanders did a little switch release where it just crossed each other and they go up the Field Carolina did not have an answer for raising and I feel like I learn something every time I watch a Kyle Shanahan offense how do you feel after watching his like he's being actress he's doing these things at other offenses don't do The timing of his play on the usage is really and just cut upfield if he sees decrease that is exactly what we saw today for whatever reason it seems like we're seeing a lot of coleman up the Middle Kalman off tackle but nothing in Coleman wide and today he finished the game with eleven carries one hundred five yards he caught a touchdown obviously the one area where Kevin Coleman should be getting the ball is when he has an opportunity to just out run guys on the sideline put his foot in the ground usage all round and it was it wasn't like the forty niners oftens did any sort of trip layer trick ration- as as they say I don't know why I call them prospect but I like he's certainly a game changer and I don't Think Carolina did enough to really yeah I mean I think they're certainly talented at a skill position I think that I bother him how did how did you even make any throws outside the hashes that is a great question where would you next gen stats has that almost exact same location and everything but just looking at the rest of the receivers sanders four for twenty-five depot three for nineteen and after that the next leader yeah so it's just like for me it's like the perfect collection at talent lake as far as like what you want like a Shannon offense the open hole and just running through it and he understands like which angles to take I l going through the hip of like the blockers and his own skates I don't I don't even remember like about seeing Dante Jackson get in touch okay yeah he did I the thing is like have like the truly like blue chip star I guess kettle is one I should say that I mean more about the and he just like bursts upfield and a guy like that and obviously you have the blue chip tight end prospect probably the best tight end in the NFL in kittle in calming what the usage today was not how he's been used all season and that's what has been pretty frustrating for me because the one look like because like I I made this point in the game when Kevin Coleman Square that first time because that's the thing he did when he was in Atlanta against us just like finding like to catch his thirteen yards and touchdown but everything it seemed like was to get Coleman on the edge and that's where he is at his best man it was a it was a really good achievers in the running backs like they don't have like a blue chip they're like sanders is really good Samuel I think he's going to be good I was a big fan of prior to the draft I mean I know pettus has been brotherly not no I don't know I didn't I didn't feel that way but again I mean if you could have been I don't know I don't yard touchdown that stick out that he caught was the exact same I mean look familiar to you guys is because that was the same play Dante Credit score at the end of the game have a dog house here and there but I I still believe in him and I didn't even play with Marquise Goodwin today knots but really is there was there any battle that you feel like the panthers won today I mean Zebra was Kevin Coleman with to catch itself the receiver still aren't getting involved but they don't have to and George kill is a tiny but he's receiver yeah I mean Miss Scorns probably I guess you could make an argument that James Bradberry like held those outside but I think that for what six guys eighty six yards and now is just I mean screens and seems where he's not even being challenged so that that falls on Shannon to me just when I watch these guys he brought up to field than that's really where the four hundred offense was able to create explosive plays so I mean but again I don't really think that turnovers Mary basic stats but they usually help paint a picture of just how the game went for each team so forty niners on third down they but so yes sorry I was just GonNa say just going down the line so sanders finished with four catches for twenty five in that way with you know some of the parts that come together I think there's speaks lake how brilliant of a coach that he really is you won't points without a starting to tackles without their fullback who is a fullback but he is very very important to this offense and then chance that is just all she wrote and there's a lot of hype coming into this game about the defense I have wrote Ad Nauseam doc and you're missing your to starting tackles at you've invested like a decent amount of capital and he's on a big deal and mcglinchey was a top ten pick like a couple of years like even that's just kind of speaks to the test how good of a coach Shannahan is because again I I spoke earlier like have a really great offensive line I don't think positional battle and talk about you know who won which battle whether was the Fernandez receivers against Carolina DB's and so on and so forth athletic quarterback I should say he's not like dislike some mobile you know kind of statue he can make plays on the ground and he was able to that those defenses certainly had the luxury of having a high quality like secondary and I don't want to hear from your secondary's fine but offenses you don't want to say it reminds me of like the bears of last year or the Jaguars of the year before I think they're a little more different was but he made some pretty good player in those kind of like responsible in some ways for the long touchdown run by McCaffrey but Rodney Blair baby go telling their interiors like you know the best in the world either and so like when you're able to just like kind of dictate you know the the opposition he was probably being assigned to do I don't even think like the design of the played call kind of asked him to
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we start to learn some stuff right and I think that this week was an example of that I feel like some of the teams yes we didn't it's important I think to talk about the fact that you know when we start looking at week seven week eight at some point you're just not a good team and at some inch to sustain for the most part through their defense and winning ugly and on the Vikings side you know running the ball a lot over the first five weeks of the year the fans are saying that Pete Carroll has to be fired right now or retire the game has passed him by a team that was five and one coming into this week and who's who's what about last year with the Vikings was I kept looking for reasons that they were good even though they kept losing games they shouldn't even though they weren't putting it together like I thought they were going to do and little bit and that's what I want to start with today and I think that the four teams we should throw out our Green Bay Minnesota who picked to win need a little bit more into it and that's kind of how I felt about pretty much every single one of those seems today we talked about this topic before we saw the eagles lay an egg on Sunday night point when we're talking about the teams that are separating themselves we're talking about teams are separating themselves from teams like the Eagles okay something I talked to when we're seven eight weeks into the season and you have winds like this and we have such a backlog of information about these teams I think you can salei oddly enough the Vikings these teams have a have separated themselves in a way that I think is quite notable and I think both of those teams now have found their footing offensively and when you consider what they have on defense the way they've played defense and now you is lost today I feel a no way things as well hopes and their MVP candidate stone MVP candidate but it's I'm sorry I'm sorry Pete it's time for you to go he's like that works well but is this sustainable and watching him today they have a plan they know what they are offensively and it's work no it's undeniable that they're obviously New England is up there obviously Kansas City is up there from Sunday's perspective these are the teams circling and saying okay these guys are starting to pull away from the some of the units disappointed me certainly I mean really all three phases of the ball disappointment last year Minnesota but at some point I have to stop looking for reasons you're good and that's what I'm doing with the Eagles right now I'm still what I am now obsessed with Stephen Coney put a screen grab but I guess some some Chat Bay deal with with seahawks fans and literally half of win okay these quarterback seem comfortable they seem like they're know what they're doing in that system now I think those teams are getting really scary yeah so this is what we talked about find your footing with a new offense with a new approach everything and I think the Vikings and the packers are two really good examples of that you know they have very very scary team with an offensive identity when you consider what they still have on defense so I actually think I'm of two minds of that because I think they are when we found out the packers defense is really good really in week one which was I was excited to see a team where the worst part of the team was the guy who is one of the best more than willing to admit it I was discouraged like watching that team in watching that offense I was like maybe he's just not the guy and again well that's what I'm saying I'm saying that both things can be true is that you might have to throw at this point Warren Trump tweeted this out the the I just love so before the season started I don't WanNa get too far down the vikings rabbit hole here but watching them today I really I think that I just didn't give enough credence to how long this stuff takes and how a month of Games is not indicative of what's they've found the balance that is a system I like with the proportions that you should run if you WANNA have an efficient scheme and I was concerned about that opening quarterback we know what kirk cousins is and so long as he plays like kirk cousins has in the past I know it's not rodgers esque he's not Patrick mahomes no one's going to confuse them for was that they'd go a little bit too far in the wrong direction that it would be so run heavy that they wouldn't be efficiencies and it took a little while and I gave up on it before I should have but right now they are one hundred percent lock dead I mean they are lights the plan ahead coming into the year the Kubiak play action system that they were trying to implement my concern be on the table for that and then watching them today and seeing these first down play action shot plays doing it on second and eight things like that proper you know obsessed with the week to week with flash in the NFL narratives reverse themselves and things that were true one week in and out of the act the knack we we all have to be unfortunately through his career like doesn't hasn't done that enough so that's the thing is that I completely understand the questions about it I felt that way about kirk cousins 'cause I'm not sankar cousins gonNA play like Aaron Rodgers I'm not even saying that he was gonna GonNa play forever like you did on Sunday he was amazing on Sunday but he is a he's not Russell Wilson but if he plays like her cousins if he's the best kirk cousins he can be that team can we'll onto games so I I was a prisoner of the moment with the Vikings thousands I think this can be real I think his talent can be real but also into eagles game last week is kind of outlier eagles defense stinks right now man Happen to be entire season and I was so impressed with them today and I it's so you I watched them last week and I feel like the Eagles secondary is so bad the glimmer of hope with the team that we picked the super bowl right under the same and those teams that we're talking about whether that's the saints whether that's the packers where that's each but the lions defense has been pretty good now that's what I'm saying yeah this this is a a real performance today it absolutely is and litterbox in history of football right that's that's really good because that means eventually he's going to know what to do and things are going to get on track we all saw this coming are always I saw this maddening but when he is on it looks as good as anything and I think that that today was an example of that when he's feeling it rotate through weeks ago that the kind of the rajas breakout was coming once that happens the packers are on fire I felt that way even though it was a lot less popular of a stance is very capable of getting hot and when you consider the Rosser talent overall that they have him getting hot for a month makes them a dangerous proposition in the in the NFC playoff picture so speaking of that era rodgers threw five touchdown passes today he did it so their defense has been so bad that it becomes hard to gauge what a guy looks like against them so I watched her cousins last week and I was like Oh you know and now I think they do feel comfortable and it was about weathering the storm when it was rough at the beginning and now that's over like a little bit from their for their specific pack we're not saying these teams to win the Super Bowl or anything or they're gonNA end the conversation where we are saying is there was a lot of mediocrity in the NFL had done the same thing for fifteen years there and they were very comfortable with it and I think everyone on that offense had to drastically alter have to great receivers and the running game works so when you combine all of those things with the defense I there in the conversation for me right now in the NFC being in and I think for the first few weeks they didn't show us that they could do that but I think they've found it and it's the perfect offense for him they and the hesitate about him in and people like really being upset like the Vikings Fan base over the first couple weeks I get it he is you've a previous conversation he and I had had about him getting used to their new scheme and settling into it and everything else because he lows and kind of getting those high points and putting a vision to have more consistent days when he's not just absolutely on fire I totally agree he ah I mean what can they do are they the best team in the NFC. I don't think that's unreasonable to say no I don't think it's really well I could even see him kind of playing nick foles role and just one day putting up fifty points in the Super Bowl just out of his mind he's not a consistent of quarterback again he's they will start slow because of how training camp operates now because it's not like it was fifteen years ago you will by definition usually have a slow start when you're changing everything so they bring back three or four times I'll watch night game today he throws like one of the prettiest balls and football in it we I unreasonable at all I think that there's kind of okay listen the niners are really freaking good the saints are really good the packers are right up there I think the vikings he is one of the most like aesthetically pleasing quarterbacks in the NFL and I think that's why his lows are so frustrated but it's also the reason that they were one in my opinion their expectations what they're doing everything and I think it's it took a while for them to really settle into it and their defense carried them as they did that can be Patrick Mahomes Acme Russell Wilson any of these guys but on every once a month he has the capability to look like those guys and I think the thing is managing the you probably cut below that I would say I would put those three teams the San Francisco New Orleans in Green Bay at the top right now having said that like you said that the sixteen teams are going to win the super bowl so by definitions e in my opinion you could win acc super with kirk cousins of everything else breaks right he's one of those guys he can play Real Patten defenses ahead of the offense that just makes sense if this is clicking now and this is the team that the Green Bay packers are going to be remembered the raiders were not the raiders of last year Eagles are the only team that have gone up twenty plus points in the first half and five games so watching him do that against them I again it's hard to gate still kind of same coaching staff kind of same system whatever while we're talking about we've talked about this for two months new play collars new systems new all of this it's so interesting to me because I think it was about the other aspects of the team being able to carry them as they figured it out and now that it seems like this is really his first full action and it looks like he he was never heard obviously the game plans a little more conservative but what Sean Payton has done and they figured it out a little bit you allow Aaron Rodgers to be Aaron Rodgers Yep so it's I think that right now I give the sample size I'm not ready to call the NFC and I still think the niners and the and the saints are really really good so it just comes down to how sustainable what we saw on Sundays from the packers all their and Detroit I was thinking the same thing is that just is it was just bad luck they have an unusually close wall back there so that it was an odd I think that's the question and I don't know the answer to that but I think it's probably pretty sustainable and it's what you wrote about but it's also like I don't know it Zhang and Teddy Bridgewater it's amazing I think I saw people today but I mean it really should be the story of the season when you just consider what Teddy Bridgewater hope to play against Arizona next week I don't know if that's going to look like so let's put them side for a second I think that you know San Francisco Jimmy Garoppolo coming back but it's still from an injury talk about the bears later you make bold choices and sometimes it doesn't work out and I think that there are teams that have made a short term and it may hurt you later and I think that that's why the saints everything about them right the mental Rehab I guess you'd call it as just learning to trust herself and and the idea that the teddy bridgewater has really I mean he got traded last year for a second round pick they've made much riskier choices and they've all worked up it's really remarkable I just cannot even comprehend now is so impressive because the degree of difficulty to pull off what they're pulling off when you consider how many risky choices they've made Aziza Change Guy and I've talked in the past about players who have leg injuries and injuries and they've talked about this but the needle that they've threaded when it comes to building this team that the way they have and when it comes to making themselves such a force without breeze and for the rest is amazing watching these other teams that have done this like mine and watching it come back to bite them and then you think about what the saints have done and there's very decent football team if this was the team that we're gonNA see for the next ten weeks then you have to put them above the other two teams however we just haven't seen the had I was I was in Green Bay last week two weeks ago and I had a really interesting conversation with David and we were just talking casually and we were discussing thing because he like roll the couple times yeah it was just an awkward moment in general but the the the throw though and it's funny that you say that because I thought this may be see I don't see any reason why they should firmly that passed a theon in the back of the end zone on I two thoughts number one that was a dime number two little close on that one I'm the benefit of the doubt just because of how terrified am of him all the time but I also think that we really have to acknowledge what the saints have done show me is that they're just so the roster talent and the coaching is are so good that they can just be everything they need that's the only team drew breeze around the world so let's put them aside for a second look like drew brees by the way told my triple to the SPN that he might practice this week this comeback for I mean there were people thought who's who were on that field in Minnesota who were like man that that that's the type of injury where someone doesn't play again and if he six you know I'm looking at his passing charts right now he's taken downfield shots you know just I I think that I saw a stat when he first got in they were running one of the most conservative offenses not only in the NFL but in the last couple of years in the NFL and obviously he's but worked his way in where he can basically make any thrown out and really what teddy bridgewater is don't opportunities incredible and you know I think that when drew brees retires the saints know what they have and it's very exciting proposition now so thank the so so cool to see I just he's he's a starting quarterback in the NFL and I think that if if anytime before eighteen months ago anybody said that you think they were going to be crazy just because of how crazy that injury was and again it's it's not only the story of the seasons one of the stories maybe the decade and so there were based on what they need to be and I think that is the mark of a really good team it's the mark of a versatile team and it's the mark of a deep team that is what the the season I it is so so ridiculous and you know what's amazing to me is how much more comfortable he's gotten on the offense just the matter of three here's another player had started kind of a weird thing September October game were one of the mcgown started so I also think is part of partly just Sean Payton getting up to speed James I think early on they really were conservative with Yup and his average intended to air yards was like three first first two games and I think that they're on a weekly basis and I think that's how you sustain especially without the best player on your team it's blown away I remember people saying that it was going to take a little I think the ability for coach and quarterback toward together like this and and look like I mean look if drew brees wasn't coming back this year we would still be talking about the saints in and they have this year which is a team that won a super bowl watching what's happened to the bears we'll talk about this a little bit later you know u s Sean Payton Coach of the year for right now I think it's between him and Reich Oh yeah it's it's a conversation to me I'm in a league where things that not nearly as drastic as what has happened to the saints and Colts Happen to teams and it allows like it that was cause for concern one hundred percent but what's been so impressive to me is that they can be different things every week it'll be having the same conversation without the fact that drew brees is coming back perhaps next week who do you think is done the most impressive coaching job in the NFL this year you know NFC contender biggest that's the biggest testament to a bridgewater has done so far is if if breeze at tore his ACL we'd st sources and really paid for it you know you trade away a future first round pick or do this on this with the cap and you really do try to maximize your moments in was kind of easing him and he had obviously not seen much action in a number of years but it was also they're trying to figure out what an offense without drew brees looks like because it had been what for you that and this is kinda predicted because the offense the saints were running was so tailored around drew brees That they kind of really I mean I think the conservative nature of it yes I think sean p maybe honestly it depends I think the two different teams I think the saints are looking at a number one seed type season and the Gasman right looking at a tend to something that is so hard to tap into it just all of it weekly I said it last week if you have a bad coach you you should be pointing out meals their seasons to watch both of them have done I just I'm jealous guy that's kind of what I'm sitting here doing they are so so good and they have tapped at the Indianapolis Colts did this and this it's a every coach says no excuses excuses and the colts made no excuses and the saints are the same way AFC south champion type season where you know you win ten eleven games I do think there are on different planes of competition and so it'll just be sort of maxes out there and welcome to the ringer NFL show. I'm rubber maize joys as always by Kevin Clark how you doing buddy you lose a hall of fame quarterback and you just keep on rolling it's I've been floored reminds me reminds me a little bit wins there yeah I think you're right I mean I think the saints probably because of that reason our he's in the driver's seat but I think what both of them have done a great writers seem that ended up I remember and he said I learned to not lose your quarterback and then a year later the eagles lost a quarterback and they won the super of a couple of years ago the owners innings your after Derek Carr broke his leg Jack del Rio was asked what did you learn about football last year with that and lack energy the last couple of weeks has been surprising to me because I think both of you and I spent a lot of time around that eagles team when they won the Super Bowl I think that's that's how I'm feeling too I mean the margin's get worse and worse as you get more hurt but watching them just come out been about that in a very long time I can't wait for the eagles to stop being my super bowl prediction and look I mean this is something that we this and that's the biggest thing I mean no matter what's happening with them injury wise elsewhere if he's banged up and if anything wrong with him torpedoes their chances to Dallas where I could complain about thirty minutes we gotta get to Dallas so that's what I wanted to ask you so this cowboys break and it was a special group I think every single level and to watch them come out and just lack much different and I just did not expect that coming in the air even if even as they got a little bit banged up I never thought this version of this roster a couple of those things around the edges I thought maybe they weren't the most sounded Rosser in the NFL anymore but I didn't expect this yeah judge to salute over and over and over again I just I I have not seen Carson wentz jog to the sideline looking one hundred percent healthy in a very long time and I think we need to talk with Dallas cowboys already we already dunked on the Philadelphia Eagles I'm I'm just I'm I'm done with them I'm I I I'm maybe it's not maybe I'm reading too much into it I mean so many guys are hurt but they're think about the colts again yeah winds coming off the field slightly limping and looking like he just took a shot that would kill any of us like that seems to be the exact same for down what do you want to start with well I think that we already we we will get to the quarterback and sort of their MVP situations I'm when do we get to pick new super bowl teams midseason I think so I can't wait for that this is the most wrong formats are you tacking it up to what we've seen from the eagles the last couple of weeks as defense or do you think that this team was I this is what I think I think that's probably right but I still I'm always ready to call in the body language Dr and it's a ringer a special but I I don't think it's about I don't think it's a vibe thing at all almost like I mean they are one of the boom and bust teams at the NFL They can play as well as anybody and sometimes they can lose to the Damn jet the players and we make judgments on players and we think we know what they are and then they walk into a different spot and they completely transform and I think that's what we're talking about here it's when you step into was spot that is drastically better I think you can be a complete it was in play yeah I don't think it's a vibe thing I think it's a talent thing I mean I just think that only defensive backs to stay with anybody right now yeah that's fair I talking about how just I don't think there's ever been a decision that has been panned more and turn turn in the punditry looked worse than the Mark Cooper panting host in this year and even over the last five years doing this is that we should never make judgments until like three years and it's really tempting to fall prey to the weekly kind of Mac nations of the League and I think the thing I've learned classes passed some play action which is what we wanted to see I'm sure you're you're happy about that like the Playboy Amari Cooper looks like early different version of who used to be and I think that's what we've seen from him and it's I I don't know I feel like as we talk about the league and you and I do this twice a week I don't know what the right word is just something to do it's an energy I it's some sort of fortitude this team feels I think it speaks to situation I think speaks to how important it is to be in the right spot in the NFL and you know we we have opinion like I think that was everybody on the planet out the raiders will not trade yeah and it's amazing it's amazing to see how important he's been that offense new us the jets last week and one of the most ernst performances of ever seen in my entire let's not were I'm not here to crown the cowboys but I'm here to say there were some encouragement here they had some nice aw and it was a special walker room and it was there was some coaching staff that we know was you know really really down to 'cause they'd and get their that same with kirk cousins be saying if I was Mike Zimmer right now manager lows we can get there and so I just think that you know I just more consistent games I heard on the colts I'm I'm with you I also think I have not seen no joke about how Robert Sal looks like they're just running the same photo Jonah Loop Carson Wentz Carson I just want to see from them they don't need to beat the Eagles by what twenty four points twenty seven points every single time I will say Barbara Funny tweet today all right let's get to our next one here I feel like both Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers thrust themselves into the conversation today do you think that's fair it's job was a noble cause but he did and I think that he's he's a really frigging down to player and I was glad that on slow news day got to tell him that I'm an idiot that's and that's why it's important to sort of figure out it's almost there's sort of the kirk cousins of teams right now right like we just have to manage the lows and with teams with players with everything and I am guilty as guilty as anybody but I try to be better about that and I think that he something that we kind of saw coming you we talk with the depth and the roster and some of the special guys the reason you win a super bowl similarly Jackson Wall Assembly Jackson's out for the season as an IRA cooper trade it looked like he was not performing at a level worth of first-round pick I think very few receivers are worth first-round pick and I was wrong he's a really good example yeah I mean listen that's true of everything amid unfortunately as joking last podcast but the Herschel Walker trade and how universally it was and I've talked about before how much I was just destroyed for Mike Carson wentz praise early on and the rams were mad at you remember that when some of the Cooper again and I think that that was coming off of injury last week I think that there was a lot of concern about that after the jets game but I think that like this is a team both top five at this point wouldn't you say I would say Wilson one I don't know what's going on with Mahomes yeah that's I mean that's that's ah that's for this I don't know if Rogers and Jackson listen if Lamar Jackson wins twelve games and plays like he played he Amari Cooper is one of the receivers who were first round pick relative to what he's done that offense and we can debate a million times whether or not saving Jason Gear I think they were primed for about spy game I think that offense can eagerly started to coach the cowboys yeah that's how I'm reading this well back in really smart player he might be the hardest part attack when football right now so I I I know how this is gonNA sound and I don't mean to sound like this in play he wants to stay out there John Harbaugh Kudos to him for having the guts to go on fourth down but he's also like Lamar Jackson aside from being a really good passer in a really good quarter rams guys were mad at me for that because I was making fun of them for taken as making fun of them for passing on on whence drop off anyway let's not get too long hard I'm not trying to I am not trying to take anything away from his ability to play quarterback that's not what I'm trying to do are you so let me ask you a question if you put him in Minnesota firmly I mean he's just a couple of Wilson again it's all kind of foolish to project whatever they everybody's GonNa look like maybe maybe you know maybe key situation I I I think that Wilson is definitely one of Watson coming in today we I would say I was going to have watson three maybe it's I don't think he would be I think he's you know what he is he's a great quarterback here's what I'm asking is he the most effect But I just think that you just sort of have to guess on these things with all the evidence you have and I think that in the in the instance of the and I am not trying to make Lamar Jackson not a quarterback because he's been a good quarterback this year but is Lamar Jackson the best running back in the NFL the NFL that you'd rather That you WANNA see less than Lamar Jackson right now like I and may maybe maybe it's just one maybe it's not just he's a really smart player he is a really I mean obviously has the passing skills if you've seen him as a runner forth into that was an amazing so Wilson so I don't know I mean I think you rather see Lamar Jackson than a healthy Patrick mahomes right now if I'm game planning for somebody I don't WanNa game plan against Lamar Jackson as we a- vision and we have an understanding of what efficient offense in the NFL looks like and the Ravens are kind of turning that on you know he he was great at running when the Roman coverage and had their back to back to the offense by praising that and I just think that this is just going to keep happening I don't know I mean that's really hard to say because you have to imagine if he yes depending on how how you just the conversation how they warranted mention right yes they are they are probably I'm with you one hundred percent I just think that what he is giving them is a runner it's unlike anything we've seen recently in the NFL the ants I mean Lamar Jackson is awesome I'm Bobby Wagner was talking about I guess I saw some quotes after the game where he was talking about just how smart of a runner he was in the sense that runs when he wants to run its situational but that's not necessarily true they have a lot of design runs for him yeah no I know you're saying but I I don't think that's a really Donovan inside and unfortunately this is not we don't get the benefit of hindsight so we just have to analyze these things and a lot listen a lot of times first instinct is right with Belvin Co Ed Alvin Coke spot 'cause you have more or less yards in Dalvin cook so I think the answer is less because he's I think he's I think are celebrating what they have instead of of trying to tournament something he's not named there's a real lesson to be learned that I think that they understood you on its head and it's hard for me to grasp right now because they're doing it well enough to win but I I don't know Terminal Joe flacco whatever he's going to be the best Lamar Jackson issue football and there's I just I think it's a celebration I mean you know there was a time when cam was running a decent amount everything else but this is new and it's Kinda hard to wrap my mind around because they had made a plan around and built a franchise around like they're not going to have the efficiency numbers of the not gonNa have him drop back fifty times a game because I can turn Philip rivers it possibly could have but again it's just so different from our value systems as we think about the sport right now when it comes to offensive aesthetics I was like this for the rest of the season and we don't have to worry about the whole thing and he wins Dan Masui I don't know what's going to happen what I am saying is that the narrative award those guys makes they built a a real unique offense around him and they celebrated him and I think there's a lot of coaches who get a quarterback and say I'm GonNa make this quarterback aversion will he was nine of twenty today and they walk thirty to sixteen hundred I understand there was a out everything else that I want to see him as and the Ravens looks at Lamar Jackson said we're just going to maximize what we have and enjoy we have and I think that there's they're probably just the I've had a hard time kind of filtering it through my understanding of how football works right now it's very disconcerting kind of make that it's kind of hard to understand when you think about the rest of the leak the plan is beautiful and it has worked as well as they ability to transform your franchise and to be willing to make a bold choice like that and do something different and and I think that when you look at how many quarterbacks have had to go through that were coach comes in or an owner GM says were brand coach and to make you less like yourself uh if they can keep doing it if that makes it so different from what we're used to yeah I think they can keep doing it dude I think they can't to Seattle give dangerous runner in the NFL at any position right now I mean I think you I think that right now there's like three guys staffer less of a gunslinger and ended up happening was that he lost a little bit this world ski thanks he lost a little bit of that sort of I can do anything in Russia yards rushing touchdown what he is giving them it is I I don't know what compared to I mean we've seen promote Greg Roman who obviously has expired experienced running this sort of sort of run heavy offense and and sort of coming up with great schemes he's our offense coordinator John hobos and and pretty easily I'm not easily a hard-fought game but I think that they comfortably won that game it is it is just so different and again I I agree with everything you said I wasn't trying to say I believe that and I what they've done is amazing it's just so unique are we going to get a chance to bring up the niners slop fest against the Redskins I don't think so it's not in the doctor do you want to especially when you consider the fact that John Harbaugh been there for so long and we have such an established understanding of what the Ravens are that's the coolest part of it to me they are not the first team I'd throw out to reinvent themselves on a fly on the fly like this and I think that's the coolest part of it is sized how cool what the Ravens are doing is yeah I absolutely agree I I just think that it takes such a human is that the ravens are known quantity like we we know this franchise obviously Ozzie newsome is thirty more whatever else but yeah about twenty-five coaches you'd be looking at the Ravens and not trying to run the ravens offense but try and do what the Ravens did from a spiritual standpoint which is say we like our guy how do we help them -ality which in some cases is unhealthy when he started talking about turnovers or whatever but on the on the balance there it's really important for Matthew Stafford Matthew Stafford beauty of it is they knew they needed to be that different and they went completely in that direction and when I when I was doing the Matthew Stafford story I talked to dinner lobster they had no reason to it it's not a new coaching staff it's not a new front office it's not none of that they did it because they knew it was their best chance. And that's the best part O'Brien despite some of the the real problems in Houston like I will follow Shawn Watson to the edge of the earth and I will follow him into AFC south prediction having I said that I mean this is I think this is a definite playoff team they are just a everything has been thrown at them not just luck franchise in a short amount of time to be sustainable and tough and a well oiled machine it's one of the team building jobs of the decade really aggressive he went four on fourth down when Lamar wanted to I just think they drafted in a kind of a different way they went all in on him in a very different way which is able their foreign to stay have as many winds they've played one last game than the Houston Texans but he's obviously backed up Stafford who's in Detroit with him and he talked a little bit about how there were some big Jim Caldwell is one of them coaches who were brought in to make matthew no I just want to talk about I I you know what I'm just going to wait for stock down and give it to everybody involved in that game that's totally fine all right one more stock up here and we can do this briefly I have not I'm GonNa tell you what it is first Denver Burst Denver flacco Bowl Pittsburgh Miami Jacksonville off-putting thing because it's just so different I really like I actually disagree with that I think that they are what we should celebrate with his team that figured out what when I watch it and I watched it succeed it's it there's a leap there is a slight step by half to take to buy into it and I have but and I think that's the I tweeted a bunch about it you and I have talked a bunch about it the what the Indianapolis Colts there today and what they've done all season is just absolutely give it to Houston just because of we both believed that the Shawn Watson is most important person in the world yes yeah like I just I already eat despite game and today Jacoby threw for three hundred twenty five yards and four touchdowns and they don't need him to do that every week but the fact that they can kind of vastly off I think that that's where someone like John Harbaugh Greg Roman should be celebrated because they're not doing that and I think that I know that you obviously feel the same way we're not arguing that's just want like what the quarter century whatever fifty years I don't know like is one of the best thing that's ever been done in the NFL when you consider just how quickly got that program up and running I feel like they are impressive in the exact same way and today was the best example of that Randy so have you looked at the schedule between these different versions of who they are I think that speaks to coaching I think it speaks the Rosser talent I think it speaks to an overall plan in the same way that it doesn't with new outs and and how much he's persevered he has won a super bowl has gotten close yet but just from going from zero to one hundred I've been hugely impressed I think it's a similar conversation to the one we had but I I think that it is one of the most remarkable franchise just bid by the way Chris Ballard is built real chance at seven or eight wins but it in in the next thing getting to seven and two eighty two in those next four games the saints in the sense that they've been able to be different things and when they beat the chiefs it was all Marlin Mac it was more than twenty five carries one hundred twenty five yards all the bowl and put up more points team history of the Super Bowl so there you go you can lose your quarterback you just have to have a coaching staff all right let's get to stock up four and three they are legitimate contender in this division I am I still think that there's if you were to handicap right now even after Sunday would you Komo Darius Leonard injuries been thrown at them they just keep rolling it is unbelievable man I don't even know at some point you just running the things to say within Annapolis Colts stats there's some real movement made there are before law not quick break with two thirds of guys experience what they don't know is there is an FDA approved medication designed to stop hair loss even grow hair that's why worksite at a partner with our sponsor Roman unnoticeable hair loss by age thirty five most guys assume losing her hair is inevitable as they age some don't care some shape their head some embrace hats niners this year we love the niners wears a pro niners podcast but in this particular Sunday iding glean a lot from the San Francisco Forty niners I think that's fair all right was the next one because I think there's aditorial decision on our part to not count dolphins redskins and bengals wins such yeah we'll we'll get the niners like when they give us reason and they beat somebody that we feel good about up here we've done a ton of celebration of the Cincinnati Bangles
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"Summer is coming to an end fall is just around the corner and that can only mean one thing college. Football is back if you need help breaking down all the things in the world of n._c._w._a. Football well. I have a show you'll love the solid verbal join hosts dan rubenstein in thai hildenbrand as they offer insights into each conference game analysis analysts and plenty of commentary throughout the season beyond if you're a fan of all the pageantry and excitement that college football brings well then the solid verbal is the podcast for you. Dan anti will give you everything you need to get ready for saturday's this fall in just a moment you'll get to hear a preview of the solid verbal while you're listening go subscribe to the solid verbal on apple podcast spotify or wherever you're listening right now there's also a link in the episode notes. Enjoy welcome to the solid verbal. Boys and girls dell's money ms ty hildebrand and i'm joined by my good friend. Dan rubenstein and we host a podcast about college football so type. Here's what i'm thinking instead of telling pulling people about the show and what we do and how we preview and recap games during the season and really dive deep. Why don't we just tell people very specific. Things we like about college college football that will always happen and will always bring a beautiful smile to are very attractive faces. I love go i do it. I love love very poor. Field conditions. You know the solo the mud the monsoon like conditions. It just really brings out the true flavor of a football game. When you have a personal favorite i gotta go with the snow game first and foremost <hes> but goodyear poor really goes a long way. There's something special about snow games when the field completely covered up and you get that weird mix of is that the thirty yard line is that the end zone and then the t._v. Graphics try to kick in with. We think there are lines here but maybe there aren't tie great call. How about you. One thing i love is when a defensive player grabs the ball out of an offensive players. There's hands no not the knockout fumble that rolls around on the ground a little bit. I'm talking about the disrespectful. I don't need to knock this out of your hands. I am just going to take it and start running the opposite direction it's so aggressive and it's so nonchalant in a very strange way that i can't get enough enough that the game completely flips because a linebacker looks at a running back and says i can just take it. I love that you're essentially talking about ball kidnapping here aren't you is what i'm this is exactly what i'm saying. Yes how 'bout one a wide receiver catches. A screen pass runs a total of seventy five yards uh-huh take them like four yards from scrimmage. Yes sideline to sideline. What maybe there's something there up well no and then you know thirty seconds insulator its second and six and you always need to keep hope alive that this could be the game breaking play that tilts things in your favor. You always have to keep hope alive that maybe i'm the fastest person on earth. Today is the day i proved that no man is faster than i gotta. Keep the faith in all right. I love love when there's a trick play and it. There's a double pass. The quarterback throws it to a running back backwards or wide receiver backwards and suddenly they throw a pass and it turns out. They're left handed. Oh of course of course people are right handed or left handed but it's always a fun surprise. When you find out someone's like he how would i possibly know but he's left handed and that is charming and wonderful and it's good to know that you random slot receiver sign. Sign your name with the left hand. That's great to know my favorite not to be overlooked is when fans very pointedly go up to a broadcast camera and flash the number one sign as in our team is number one when their team is very clearly dot number one. Do you think it's because they think they're team is number one or they just think they're in a number one kind of mood. I think they're caught a bit off guard. What do you do if you're in front of the camera. You say we're number one. That's just sort of a tradition listen. I think they might be saying our school is the best like our science department. In concert with our dance. Program are very good and and we must let the world now. I think they're recruiting as they go into the commercial break. So what's the deal with this college. Football podcast seems like a fair question. Here's what we do we broadcast year round talking about all things college football and during the fall when their games being played we not only preview but we also recap and we also try try to make fans as big a part of the show as humanly possible yeah on saturday. We opened up a voicemail line and fans whether they're happy they're sad or they're happy. Be am ben sad to start leaving voicemails all about their emotions and we compress it all into a tidy neat. Little package played on our sunday show so you don't don't just learn about who ran for one hundred thirty eight yards or who upset the number four team in the country but how these poor t._c._u. Or minnesota or florida state fans really feel deep inside their soul. It's it's kind of wild illuminating tie. We've been doing this show for over a decade now. If you can believe believe that what's happened in the span since we started doing this show. I've watched my oregon. Ducks lose to national championship games in person. I convinced you to not go and pay to see your notre dame. Fighting irish lose to alabama through. It's still one of my absolute favorite accomplishments. I got married. You got married. Both their wives are very confused as to why they can't hang out with us on saturdays. We've done live shows. We've done game shows. We've invented something called the fantasy things draft where instead of drafting players we draft storylines or narratives or weird cliches because that's who we are as college football weirdos tie with dan is trying to say is that if you're a college football fan you should check out the solid verbal subscribe now and come be part of our weird college football universe once again were the solid verbal available everywhere apple podcast google podcasts wondering dot com or wherever you're listening to this podcast right now tie. Do you have any advice for anybody. Listening of course stay solid piece.
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"Summer is slowly coming to an end and follow sneaking up on us and that can only mean one thing college. Football is back if you need help breaking down all the things in the world and n._c._w. Football football you need to check out the solid verbal join hosts dan rubenstein and tie hilderbrandt as they offer insights each conference game analysis and plenty of commentary throughout the season season and beyond if you're a fan of passion power and pageantry the college football brings than the solid verbal is the podcast for you. Dan anti will give you everything you need need to get ready for your saturdays this fall in just a moment. You're going to get to hear a preview of the solid verbal while you're listening. Take that opportunity to go subscribe to the solid verbal on apple podcasts gas spotify or wherever you're listening to pickle me this right now. There's also a handy link in the episode notes. Welcome to the solid verbal boys girls. My name is ty hildebrand and i'm joined by my good friend. Dan rubenstein and we host a podcast about college football so tight. Here's what i'm thinking instead of telling people about the show and what we do and how we preview and recap games during the season and really dive deep. Why don't we just tell people very specific. Things we like about college football that will always happen and will always bring a beautiful smile to are very attractive faces. I love go. I do it. I love very poor field conditions. You know the so the mud the monsoon like conditions it just really brings out the true flavor of a football game do you of a personal favourite. I gotta go with the snow game first and foremost <hes> but a good you're poor really goes a long way. There's something special about snow games when the field is completely -pletely covered up and you get that weird mix of is that the thirty yard line is that the end zone and then the t._v. Graphics try to kick in with we think there are lines ends here but maybe there aren't a tie great call. How about you. One thing i love is when a defensive player grabs the ball out of an offensive players hands. No not the knockout fumble that rolls around on the ground a little bit. I'm talking about the disrespectful. I don't need to knock this out of your hands. I am just going to take it and start running the opposite direction it's so aggressive and it's so nonchalant in a very strange way that i can't get enough that at the game completely flips because a linebacker looks at a running back and says i can just take it. I love that you're essentially talking about ball. Kidnapping here aren't shoe as what i'm this is exactly what i'm saying. Yes how 'bout when a wide receiver catches a screen pass and runs a total of seventy five yards. <hes> take like four yards from scrimmage. Yes sideline to sideline. What maybe there's something up well. Maybe i'll nope and then you know thirty seconds in her second and six and you always need to keep hope alive that this could be the game breaking play that tilts things in your favor. You always have to keep hope alive that maybe i'm the fastest fastest person on earth. Today is the day i prove that no man is faster than gotta. Keep the faith in all right. I love when there's a trick play and it. There's a double pass. The quarterback throws a to a running back backwards or wide receiver backwards and suddenly they eighth-row pass and it turns out there left-handed. Oh of course of course people are right handed or left handed but it's always a fun surprise when you find <music> out some like he how would i possibly know but he's left handed and that is charming and wonderful and it's good to know that you random slot receiver. Sign your name with the left hand. That's great to know my favorite not to be overlooked is when fans very pointedly go up to a broadcast camera and flash flash. The number one sign as in our team is number one when their team is very clearly dot number one. Do you think it's because they think they're team is number one or they just think they're in a number one kind of mood. I think they're caught a bit off guard. What do you do if you're in front of the camera. You say we're number one. That's just sort of a tradition. I i think they might be saying our school is the best like our science department. In concert with our dance. Program are very good and and we must let the world now. I think they're recruiting as they go into the commercial break. So what's the deal with this college. Football podcast seems like a fair question. Here's what we do. We broadcast broadcast year round talking about all things college football and during the fall when there are games being played we not only preview but we also recap and we also try to make fans as big a part of the show as humanly possible yeah on saturday we opened up voicemail line and fans whether they're happy sad or they're happy and ben sad just leaving us voicemails all about their emotions and we compress it all into a tidy neat little package played on our sunday show so you don't just learn learn about who ran for one hundred thirty eight yards or who upset the number four team in the country but how these poor t._c._u. or minnesota our florida state fans really really feel deep inside their soul. It's it's kind of wild and illuminating tie. We've been doing this show for over a decade now. If you can believe that <hes> what's all happened in the span since we started doing this show i've watched my oregon ducks lose to national championship games in person i convinced you to. I'm not go and pay to see your notre dame. Fighting irish lose to alabama through and it's still one of my absolute favorite accomplishments. I got married. You got married. Both their wives ads are very confused as to why they can't hang out with us on saturdays. We've done live shows. We've done game shows. We've invented something called the fantasy things draft where instead of drafting i'm players we draft storylines or narratives or weird cliches because that's who we are as college football weirdos tie with dan is trying to say is that if you're a college football fan you should check out the solid verbal subscribe now and come be part of our weird college football universe once again. 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The Panthers turned into a pumpkin for Halloween
"Maybe they're GONNA win and they're gonNA fall behind the Bengals in the tank for two I didn't realize the bay was were own their own eight now weren't yet if they're aggressively bed they actually had a play where three different people had a chance to pick off an interception past Sunday and none of them did on how are you yeah sure yeah I agree wholeheartedly so if you blacked out on how fun to watch it would have been more fun if the forty niners would have scored forty nine months yeah he did not turn the ball over once if you take out those interceptions Christian McCaffrey was pre oren burner to the forty niners they lost fifty one to thirteen it was not great Sunday and didn't catch the game or didn't watch the game Lucky you really lucky you the panthers lost a sad panthers forty niners postgame recap though we will also preview the panthers against titans just for the headlines But yeah yeah not a fun game to watch the panthers really only had life about the only bright spot on this offense with a fourteen carries for one hundred seventeen yards though a lot of those came off two long runs He did score a touchdown the hello welcome to keep sounding podcasts. This is your Christian McCaffrey matched him as far as receptions go on only five targets with thirty eight yards and DJ more had nine targets for five receptions and thirty a carolina receiving was not great Curtis Samuel had eleven targets for four receptions forty six yards and AFC there's three teams that are legitimately terrible and compete for tour. I would say maybe the first couple drives on offense and then after the Bruce urban safety sack fumble or not it wasn't just safety sack This upcoming week this is Brian joined by Brad and John Brad how're you doing this evening I've been better I think we all could say that seven sacks so not great no fumbles no fumbles though he did not fumble take out the interceptions he didn't have any turnovers. Oh that's right yards so offensively. This was a really rough game for the Carolina Panthers Christian McCaffrey deserves the Panthers Kyle Alan Through Nineteen completions off of thirty seven attempts for one hundred fifty eight yards and three interceptions along with they punted it in the panthers scored of than that though for the most part the forty niners absolutely dominated this game looking how that works this year because like in the NFC there's like four teams that might go nine and seven or better and miss the playoffs and in the major props for having like the quietest one hundred and what is hundred seventeen yards no but like until two hundred fifty five yards of total offense Oh yeah time now fitzpatrick dinner reception breaking news to those of you who watched the game last night have one hundred fifty five yards of total offense and it's like not even a talking point yeah he had one hundred sixty three total scrimmage yards and Nelson offense innards were celebrating the fact that they only held them to one hundred fifty five yards which is crazy yeah I mean it didn't really matter much he didn't score except for once like we only points but I mean at least at least Christian McCaffrey was good I think that's that's a very big compliment he only scored he only got one hundred fifty five yards and one touchdown that's a win for us and that would be a massive day for anybody else everybody like that that's why he's MVP happens when you lean on running back and can't do literally they're still lost which goes to show that the whole leaning on Christian McCaffrey for literally everything is not necessarily the best way to go when you're playing against the actual never like has always been dominated by one person it's it's usually been cam this is a bad are so low actually when compared to the chances of him getting his legs snapped because he runs right into the the defensive tackle really good NFL team somebody said something in a comment section that I thought was interesting this offense since Ronald has been here but still it just ron makes some questionable choices yeah you know who else makes them questionable choices Kyle Allen I didn't see any questionable choices I fought everything he did was pretty good it just didn't work out free yeah that's the other thing why do we have Alex Armagh on the roster like why why are we wasting a roster spot on a fullback if we're not like five seconds left in the half or thirty five seconds left in the half and we have the ball in our own twentieth so we're just GONNA call one run play to see what happens when I give it to McCaffrey which I'm quarterbacks typically do but like more so with Cam with the the running in the lack of weapons in office of line around him and then when when cam starts let's just running into a wall for no reason for one extra play that accomplishes nothing I mean he there is a chance he could break one I get that but I mean the chance there's one thing that's different between this past Sunday versus the last four weeks and that's that Cam Newton was on line Kyle Allen and the offenses fault in the winning streak like really manifested themselves when they finally had play a good team oh my God yeah he was like it just doesn't make any sense yeah just is it really worth more than likely like three to four yards up is that worth another hit and then they intercepted it like it's like he was trying to throw it to the forty niners yeah well I'll tell you why I mean that made me mad to see Christian McCaffrey still in the game when it was fifty one to thirteen with like five minutes left in the game yes why are you still running him out there your MVP candidate put put Jordan scarlet out there because nobody cares if he gets hurt life list because spoiler alert I use it I don't understand it at least in his case he plays like special teams and he's a special teams guide Sean McCaffrey who is far and away leading the League touches and we already know that Reggie bonafide can run because we've seen him do it yes and Scarlett runs happened way too many times on Sunday the niners knew what was coming it's almost like we've said that before another thing we might have said before that I'm not oh I didn't expect nothing interviews expected it to be to that extent that it was but all of the things that more astute observers have been pointing out about attraction are to make accurate throws when you're looking over your shoulder the whole time right yeah exactly and he was he they showed him giving him advice looking at film he was probably telling him our to our two yeah yeah he's a decent power back and even Alex Armagh he he didn't play a whole lot of snaps either like it was mainly dominated by Christian McCaffrey first half that he could have thrown the ball away or done something else other than take a sack there was one where and the the sequence where he through like the most perceptible passive all time that was intercepted he was like let didn't work let's try it again I'm just saying things that were unfair but it's it's very evident what he's what a lot of the passing aims of of plays for for real We were not winning that game even with Cam Newton under center light display not the way the defense played I mean Vinh it's one reedmen check it down Christian McCaffrey Richard Sherman tweeted that he knew he was going to get an interception on route the panthers are going to run he says that he called this out to his teammates on Wednesday so it's pretty clear that Kyle Allen is not as much live in Os starting record let's see that come to the ground crashing down in horrifying in disastrous fashion Obviously because Christian McCaffrey is selfish and he wanted all the touches in yards to himself the other one the other one that gets me too is when it's like the key to his issues with injuries it's now will will just give every single touch to are running back even when we're down by forty points in the fourth quarter I was live tweeting the game and I was trying to be as fair as possible Kyle Allen during it because there's a lot of Kyle Allen troopers out there who are GonNa get triggered the forty niners hung fifty one honest there was there was no well and to be fair you know Kyle and gave them what not to do like he was probably telling is sabotaging him actually believe I just believe Cam Newton was there being like yo bro even if like I get it like you're trying to play down the field but in the NFL sometimes you gotta throw it away and live to play another down and I saw at least three in the issue what happened in fact Cam Newton was on the sideline on Sunday Kyle melted down and it's it's cam he's you know short fields to work with but even if cam was playing we we weren't winning the way the defense play now granted we might have lost something like the guy making the reads and making throws as it is like the the Games are plays or schemed up for what he's supposed to throw against good defenses that's not gonna work air lungs at right tackle after Dennis daily has played well as the web tackle over the last few weeks which was weird and then I I wanna say this is what I've had to deal with good luck have fun that's a fun easy is it yeah look at you and your the second series like five minutes into the game so they decided to start the game by making the offense of line play in a set they're not us three rusher it was just like he he created internal like interior pressure and of Allan took like one or two points to his left slid to his left he would have the rush you know thirty eight or forty two to twenty seven or something like that it might have been a little more respectable and it wouldn't have been an embarrassment but we were before that like after that I mean it's it's weird it's wisdom well it's it's like I don't know if it's because yeah one of one of the things that was really questionable that we've discussed in our slack chat to was a panthers decided to trot out Taylor Moton a left tackle and adventure Williams so who who's the lineup and by easiest domain who's the worst player in the lineup to move Abiam and whoever Van Roten would have had this kind of push out of the way but instead he just took off to his left and I think that's nick both had fallen over and he just ran into Nick Bosa who is was to try to I guess learn some chemistry early on which is weird like offensive lines generally play better sure not entirely sure is he's been he was hanging onto the ball a little bit too long in the pocket and there were at least three sacks he could have avoided by just throwing the ball away starting offensive line group after the one previously had been playing pretty well yeah I mean they ran all over the Jaguars they did well the we said yes or Sunday granted but he's not the reason we lost now I mean one of the reason but not the reason winning that game with the way the rest of the team played it's not completely all on Kyle Allen that that we lost he was not that good he did take off a couple of times where like maybe Cam Newton could've made a play out of it but you're not you're not cam kyle you're not like so and I think we need to be clear justify him being on the bench if he's not playing well so that that part really boggles my mind like I don't understand why they feel the need to get him out there surly or but it almost seems like the Panthers are trying to get Daryl Williams in the lineup because of how much he's being paid as if like you can't just have him be on the bench it's not a great amount six yes yeah it's not a lot it's not a lot and it's also not like they had sunk five years of their cap into this guy this is why if he's not playing well when it's not like he's making like seventeen million dollars a season he's on a one year deal I think he's making what like nine million maybe ten just like it would have been completely out of the play otherwise yeah and that was like that's his pocket presence in a nutshell it is like if I've learned anything from reading people talk about contract values if you don't get a good return on investment you might as well does not play football yeah so you only get the best way to get return on that investment it was maybe three or four series into the game panthers reverted back to Dennis daily and Taylor moton devastate left tackle it wasn't even that like it was like who is the one that we can make explain away the best I know we'll take the rookie sixth round pick yeah John You and I had a little bit of back and forth about Rebecca from his concussion issues right yeah I mean like it's been what what is three four weeks now with him make sure he plays exactly I mean we've already spent the money back it's not even if they spent a huge amount of money either live contracts or because of tenure or both but it was like all right we'll trade centers back gotta move their Williams at right guard but we can't just the audience offensive line played shit like go ahead I didn't I didn't I never really pay like really close attention leave the one that sticks around while they're Williams probably shouldn't like after yeah I'd be surprised to see a team pay him next year but yeah you're gonNA but like if any team offers him any unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in you'd hope that he gets out of the concussion protocol hopefully in a conservative estimate the next two weeks maybe this is simple there's there's no rush you like leave them all in the same spot where they're aware of what the guys on the on their sides are doing but now Ron Rivera's choice was let's just throw it a totally 'cause as if they're going to pay him more to be on the bench lying rollason understand the sunk cost fallacy yeah you gotTa have a return on investment sort of significant amount of money and now by just like any amount of money there's no reason the panthers should try to to match that they're fine especially if little ends up getting you could argue elite so hey I'm Spencer Hall I'm Holly Anderson I'm Ryan Nanny I'm Jason Kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown full cast yes I saw Daryl Williams get literally onto the ground we got you gotta get him on the field man yeah like the entire offense of line got offensive line and in terms of like who like the individuals and who's doing their assignments and stuff but I didn't notice him like being anymore any worse than anybody else him come out during the offensive self-destruction and when they put Daryl Williams in there to style him of a him now versus him years ago as like Oh man he's got a little hefty I don't know I mean like I saw Royd on Sunday and I think it's I think I understand where the weight issues are coming from but I feel like it's unfair to judge Turner on this game when literally back those great wide receiver they had like Devin funchess and Kaelin clay and Brenton Bersin that's years he hasn't been good since two thousand fifteen I say that all the time two thousand seventeen he got he wrote into the playoffs in year so like if you gotta guys playing better on cheaper deal what's the problem especially guys playing better on the cheaper deal is probably going to be I heard about from what I've seen with Cam Newton that's more than enough time to to in somebody's career that is true Cam Newton's career has been over since last your favorite podcast app what do you think of the The blowback on Trade Turner I think it's unwarranted I do see what people are talking about with his his weight though yeah he's a big boy but like the pictures in the scratching post today Oh years yeah not he's old well over the hill he's what thirty quarterback never play past thirty nope no Thursday's pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and that's true Yep so let's talk about the defense I don't to bring him back I don't think is daily played poorly as forty niners but everybody who's GonNa play poorly against forty niners their entire defensive line is really want to but I think we should so the Coleman has figured out and so two defense by bringing in smaller faster more athletic pass rushers can we agree on that at least know I've they have I didn't he really wasn't like and I don't think four weeks of being on the bench is going to doom his career either so maybe wait her recover from injuries either ever not when they have not when they have to in somewhat quick succession. That's why I think Patrick Daryl Williams either this isn't like a Matt Kalil contract I mean it's not great but it's not like you can't it's not like they're paying him so much money that you can running game and they kind of revealed what does panthers defense is which is that date they did sacrifice the rushing yeah I think the problem is that I John I know I brought these concerns up to you over the last few weeks I think it was basically a rusher kinda penetrated through the through the center guard and but he wasn't like a of vendors of college football podcast it says in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean is this all spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disaster it since the second half last year I forgot about that is is been reminding me years since the first half of last year we have seen in years everybody sucked yeah now I don't know I don't remember him being a problem in the first game in the first three games got hurt housing getting hurt nope never once not once he was only benched on Maranon injury here's had the ability to release lean on the running game and that was what worried me for the last few weeks about this panthers team because we saw flashes of how bad the could be against the run in a lot of times they were downplayed and against the Jaguars were correct the running game didn't matter that much even though Leonard Fournette did have some plays but this was a team who was they they all had the ball in their hands at one point in time and then hit the ground and they're all just laying on the ground like oh no mike you suck the season committed to run the football and the game situation dictated that they could control the football as much as they wanted to they ran the ball they had the users. NFL disagree with that fought part I thought that was the way to go yeah no I think it's just in this particular situation the forty nine homes is done yep dislocated his kneecap I don't think this guy's ever gonna be healthy as well bring Jimmy Clausen and if you think he's GonNa be this Young Panthers Front seven has been against the run it worked against a lot of other teams but the forty niners seem to have a counter for everything they did and even Luke Kuechley seem to be and the forty niners just took that and hit a home run with it because they not only did they run the ball well but they also capitalized and how aggressive this young of the remaining schedule but those are the ones that worry me in terms of creativity getting running backs in space you cut out times for negative three yards as well so yeah they contain Matt Brita that's Nice Right yeah they did Carrie against the panthers when yeah not very many other people are doing that Brad what are your thoughts pretty much what Johnson like the fake on the misdirection and then a toss to a wide receiver or the jet sweep to Deebo Samuel like they just throw out that kind of offense mainly because Gerakan runs like a eight second forty yard dash the titans are also like Super Bonilla and the only teams that are I think will pose problems are granted that's three of the last nine games as a third I think teams can try to emulate it but Kyle Shanahan for whatever reason just has ron's number so I don't know it's just about limiting them and making plays when the teams pass I also think Kevin Coleman is a perfect fit for what Kyle Shanahan testing 'cause they were misdirecting the crap out of us it wasn't even just the misdirection it was also like the play action runs had so many different facets of their rushing offense where the panthers are already on their heels that it seemed like there was just no getting passed in this game takes a special combination of of Kyle Shanahan and Tevin Coleman to do what we saw yeah the play calling was really CBS Murray was super productive this past Sunday so yeah it's an Aaron Jones just had one hundred fifty nine yards receiving so yeah he also had two touchdowns taken away think any other team is going to have the horses to do with the forty niners did unless they can have kyle Shanahan come in and call their plays in design their run place I mean I don't know I don't think the issues are going to be correctable because they've been it's been an issue the big plays advantage you all season Ed I mean you know I don't I don't think it's a quote unquote correctable but I also think that it take to get their shit kicked in for once for once yeah yeah so maybe it'll get corrected I mean the titans are not likely to they had two hundred and thirty two yards on the ground with six point one yards per carry the you have to factor in the fact that Nick mullins kneeled the ball mark born in Andhra in high school in Alaska Wow I imagine there's like one football team in Alaska and they dislike scrimmage that what games where you're talking about backers and saints I agree agree to the Saints Have Alvin Kamara in even when they don't in fact you learn something new every time you listen to this show as we're here for your trivia facts hard out eric had eight tackles total he also had a sack that's about all you can say positive Bruce so panthers defense not great there were there were some good performances though I mean Luke equally from two that were like long ones on it's going to be a problem yeah so moving away from the Russian game because that's sad too depressing talk about so doors kid of Linemen and defensive backs at times and things of that nature but on offense we absolutely refuse to rotate anybody so I don't unless haven't Coleman Stars bouncing from team to team I don't know if that's not gonna get that bad but I do think the running the big plays will still happen of a that idea yeah I was getting a little annoyed with him in Rhonda Rhonda always hates us we know that but I would have been fine they scrimmage against polar bears yeah yeah because polar bears totally reside in Alaska Yup pass rush goes there but this is just another general coaching staff question We seem to be a big on rotating defense with if March slayeth played tight end like he would have made sense yet like you know if it was like Tony Gonzales talking about national a Christian McCaffrey there on the field every single play yet the only reason brands illustre got out there was because Jerry right was hurt ask us as up there north big cities are also up there at the big part of Alaska in near the Arctic Circle Eleven targets on the season that's ridiculous no Sir Twenty Twenty three total touches for those for the non guys talking about which combined would be just a much less from Alaska I didn't either from Alaska marshawn didn't realize people were born in Alaska I think it's the run if it's bad and it's going to stay but I think like we're not gonNA see other like how many yards foreigners ad but they ever to carry led the forty niners with six receptions for eighty six yards did not score a touchdown on national tight end by the way national titles away oh no it was yeah Ron Ron mentioned that a few years ago in twenty thirteen I wanna say when it was brand new lavelle Ted ginn Steve Smith and it was like almost always they it makes sense but March slayer was was a guard like he he wasn't a tight end so I didn't understand it I really look forward to the day where as those guys on the field and you were just like what are these other receivers here for and that's a little frustrating the so the let's see here they have Logan Ryan knock him Butler both is a lot of polar bear problems up in Canada especially big cities like Montreal bad thing is that not the same three wide receivers it's always a Greg Olsen and always seems to be Chris Manhertz and Christian McCaffrey quite underrated I think the front sevens pretty good they have giral Casey could be another game where it's tough Ian Thomas played well in his first year and they have two running backs on the roster wants a young rookie they just drafted and Reggie Jonathan Greg Olsen guests to call a game with George Kill national tight end game because I feel like tight end day because I feel like that's GonNa be great just good commentator TV is GonNa get targeted like fifteen times they play they play man coverage Colin is not going 'cause he's not going to trust what he sees damn well the good news is this Sunday even though the panthers will face wants to do with rushing offense yeah and that's that's that's why they signed a but he's averaged now that's three games reset gone abroad who like really take over a game and go over one hundred dollars receiving Brad what do you think of that I mean another plus side is the panthers would likely play Ryan Tannehill who was not great on Sunday the five the five players that we always have on the field more same on McCaffrey Olsen and right the rest of the team supposed to be like Christian McCaffrey Christian McCaffrey life but now let's just throw the same personnel out their defense is totally won't know how to handle that a heavy dose of the Derrick Henry running the ball probably after this past Sunday the panthers pretty much showed that running the ball against them could be the way to beat them let's see here there will no I know I know who I I knew that I was talking about defensive backs I know they have a so that'll be good I don't know like the titans are underrated tossed leading for the offense as those guys are pretty good and I don't know if I trust Dj more or Curtis Samuel Right now at least with Kyle Alan at quarterback ah I remember we did it a few years ago and it was just like we only ran like three wide receivers at all and it was just like that just robbed Danske so I'm going to go panthers thirty five titans ten thinking anybody else but most had the long run and just having doing what seven Coleman has been doing to the Panthers Rupaul the old patriots pages anymore a Dory Jackson may or may not play not sure yet still but according to certain titans fan I know who I may or may not be average got like eleven judges yeah I could totally see McCaffrey going over two hundred yards scrimmage again and that would be good very good for the offense it's coach so brad what do you think of the what do you think the scoring is going to be on Sunday wow thirty five point by the panthers offense led by Kyle Allen wow well of course yeah he's the future I agree yeah I I had to do with Brian Burns not really playing a whole lot with the club on his hand but it's good to see that our depth solid as far as the if on the team behind more Samuel Olson McCaffrey who has one hundred eighty touches in the next sizes forty tax for Bruce Irvin he had it he had Bruce Irvin had a safety to game in general it was just like the whenever we did something good it was like oh it's preserving again this cannot be blown out forty two three or some shit like that yeah I remember that game yeah and it wasn't like the titans were more talented than the panthers they just straight up outcoached like horribly that was also a Ron Rivera team by the way for those listening in wild believe it don't believe it for a second yep not really all that difficult to interpret just all you gotTa do put Cam Newton on the sideline yet put Cam Newton on the sideline limit cash Christian McCaffrey and let Kyle they will face Matt Patricia no excuse me that's the lions my bed that would be Mike Fable another former patron ten titans victory I think that the the I think the blueprint is out there to beat Kyle alum which is early never mentioned that it was just as well I think it's a George kill thing so that which is why March Larry was a big a big fan and I also have a little ptsd from what was that two thousand eleven where the panthers pretty good on the satellite brats it it's very difficult now to feel confident and he's worth scoring prediction because I thought like much like Brad that lasts this game is the forty niners is going to be like how did I came on one run but he also had a second big get called back because of trade turner's garbage human garbage self I think that's never seen him not once John What about you what's your scoring prediction for this game so he's going to just check it out of McCaffrey ton and then McCaffrey's for sure going to be able to win in man-to-man coverage who's covering him so and you're you're correct yes I'll tell you I'll tell you I have a thought all right Christian McCaffrey due to the the titans bowl probably throw a lot of men coverage at the panthers the titans defense is also I was so right last time when I said the panthers forty nine it was going to be one of those old time he ten nine offensive battles the offense bad for his long term health but whatever don't care about that 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