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Episode 53: What Exotic Pet Would You Own?

F That Noise

33:29 min | 4 months ago

Episode 53: What Exotic Pet Would You Own?

"Got noise we're not quitting. You're listening to that noise podcast via but we're talking about ship jamie. No one wants to smell your dirty fucking shit. Might verdict feel like. I'm a group steve taylor again as false slapped by some other. Do you get a fucking sausage. It is episode fifty three of ethic. Noise jamie's apparently. That is so stupid. Tony what the whisper whispering the show so stupid as one of the more What might just be the more docile episodes that we've ever put together Episode fifty three. What exotic pet would you choose to have if you could have anything. In honor of joe exotic the line the Tiger king not getting pardoned and therefore having wait a minute. Dasa lips funny. 'cause i just i don't know i'm i'm i'm very curious to see where we go with this whole concept of exotic going i do. I think we're going docile. I think this will be a downright com episode. Compared to the others out all gonna get aside. Did bring it on all listeners. Left i guess we stream this live every week This week is monday but We have a schedule change. Boys is that is that true. We're you're moving to look that up again. We're going to be moving wednesdays. Ten eastern time Yes so head over to our facebook. Page facebook dot com slash. Fm noise or you can just go to that noise pod dot com and get all the listen links and all the social media feeds that you can handle and if you are so inclined to support the cause go to f that noise pod dot com slash swag get yourself a t shirt something dough to wear and trump to the family and everyone know that you've got a little bit of fucking class around here when it comes to. What inclined or grief. Look if you're someone. Gordon jamie on your so engorged. See the inside reference. There is a key as a big man so we are moving right along a before. We went on the air genius. What he's talking into right now. It's actually not a microphone. Streaming jamie kennedy so majestic. I'm just gonna sit back and just let let you get it all out of your system. Okay that'd be the whole fucking shit our mushroom magnet. mike mike. You're cameras all foggy. Like did you just go through a car. Wash buck note anyway. Wouldn't he is using. Yes ninety. sound like you're in a car hope. Computer he uses the private. So it's got a little dried mess on the got as might trump might be big but he can shoot that ship forgotten far over the bill right. Yeah mike's gotta clean those mice got to clean out those cookies. If you know what i mean. That's matter how much you think you wiped it off dry. You're like cameras on money. See now just worse. That's okay supporting please. Can we have a little decorum here. We're supposed dawson. We can't be nicer with with foggy. Camera god damnit foggy bottom boys anyway. Camera like a little boy cameras before we went project camp. Sorry certifying dirt off here before we went on the god damn it s time. I've tried to start this fucking god. Various Are we ready now because we get some silence. I can edit. Who can tell we can tell us so before we went on the air jamie started to confess about this weekend and having a little too much in abrasion on. What do you do when you're drunk jimmy. I do stupid things like send self videos to people for no reason l. everyone. I'm drunk which lease the best thing to do stupid. I know one thing. I'm gonna give my phone to my wife. As soon as i know my my buddy. Dave in mallory are coming over. I'm gonna give him the phone. Take it away from me. I wanna see it. And then i can drink and be married but i think we all look forward to those texts from you don. It's the guys massive cock into like a also think massive cock in the sky. It's like god damn near us. Let's getting if tiktok shit from keys you guys are getting fucking hogs. You're saying guys are getting dick daca right. I holy shit seven those furry wishes. We got this estimate natural. It's beautiful bush natural. It's how it lays on the ground and it's beautiful to veritable a patent on jamie video steph. The new meet spin dot com me. All right so would you watch you. Watch the elephant man. Bakker knocking shit go to bed. Get up at five in the morning. Nice big do some ends. And then what do i decide to do in the morning. Put on the fucking elephant man. Wash the movie and it wasn't on. Tv like strove through. No i picked the blu ray out of the blue ray shelf and put it in the player and watch the elephant man if anyone's ever seen the elephant man is the saddest movie ever. It is so depressing. All my god so i watch. This will be still kind of bawling my eyes watching this movie. It's a great film. Masterpiece with anthony hopkins and john burton and bancroft. It's a phenomenal movie but will be no right now. Love john her But it's it's it did have a drive in. I remember as i'm watching should do that for f- that noise and then you're enough. I send wait a minute. We're doing about exotic animals. And then i'm thinking he's gotta put together as i get. I was like all right. Let's do some elephant. Man makes me think of keys massive hog and we're talking about the document. So here's some clip pack. I won't back just a month. How you get on that. I want my man. Please come downstairs with me. And explain the situation Echoing i eat us on the show clip great God especially basically my man back. It's like yes right. You do you like you pointed out. It's great because he blurts out that now and then he just goes quiet words. I love that good. That was the driver of the week. Brought to you by trash men media for all the latest blu ray. Dvd commentary and reviews had to trash men media dot com and also on twitter and facebook and forget to check www dot bizarre vis dot com. Let us news and no bullshit all right so now. Are you impressed. That i hit that right on the fucking mark your buttons there. Oh so you see you see this one to go fucking coming the same line with owner. Boehner luck yeah. Have you listened to this podcast. You'll hear those sound soundbites interspersed throughout so. Yeah so we professional in going to kid. You thought so so anyway exotic pets. Who wants to go first here. I'm not gonna. I'm not leading off because you guys are gonna like my answers so glad. Oh definitely gone up. trust me. you're doing going last anyways. You're starting this incident. It's show killer you guys somebody else. Show fucking quiet for a super about that. What i've been jumping and bring the team back okay. what. I originally the animal ever. It's called the capi there. The big akron. Basically this is like the most. Kill preacher anywhere in the world by crocodiles. Come over and lay on it. You know unbelievable a happy bear. That's what i want another yup like something you take the bed with your blankie wrote it is. It's it's absolutely real. Yeah it's just like it's a big springs if you wrote whatever reason when animals get around it they just mellow out everything kind of fall asleep by it. It's the weirdest thing this as a picture. I making a cheap or something like that from the looks like can an is it like the size of like augurs it is. It's like a really small dog. maybe off didn't do much of anything fifth pitcher now. All this thing just kind of lays around hangs out perfect pet. I'm all over. I'd kind of like this one. I want pete there. There can't be bears thirty nine to fifty one inches long and about twenty inches tall from foot to shows. I'm used to exactly what the i knew. Exactly what you fuckers. We're gonna say soon as i started going. Yeah so cappy barra all right look at that star. No strong. It seems seems tassell. Only thing i have because i'm not a pet person but odor anita no odor. Is it gonna smell musty. Isn't gonna make my house. Smell musty distinct possibility. You shitting your house. I mean it's outgoing. Some point they could stay underwater for up to five minutes at a time. The scientific name comes from hydro cherish which means water hog in greek. There you go. there's your there's your random nature of the what's your solar water sounds like my mind is around us you can't you can't assume for a pet i wanted to be. I want to have a cage my front yard with a fucking right after. 'cause no one fucks with rytas yet including you know i fucking. I'll take that shift for a walk. I like to see. mother fuckers. Bring their dogs around me. Now month fucking randazzo. Choose those little fuckers up. Anger can right now if you if you're so you're so you're so pissed all different. It's what god damn right now stress jamie from my for like dog murdering right around. You're asking you're labradors. Stuck horn sounded thing. I wanna bunch. Like a fucking dog shishkabob. Take them what. What's the dogs have like multiple different like you have. I think it's got to go. Like shitsu twala plugged shitsu You gotta actually stack the dogs on four but yet due to the right work on the rhino's corn on the run those for you know the feet can be filled with whatever steps on but you got very passionate about taking that motherfucker very passionate. Yes god right. Nassar's for fucking walkman. I want to walk down the street. Say people look at me and be like yeah. I'm not fucking with that guy. Like yeah everyone says that. About like god damn tipple fuck true ryan astros. Fucking can't i just can't anyway. His timid rhino taylor. Okay until jamie mike Go afford telling you. I'm going gonna ask because it's my i suck go ahead. I know jamie coty already reference piece of me not expenditure. Who's going jamie jamie. Who i Microsoft pissed. Because i won't go i. I decided to go with a quality care because they're cute and cuddly. Just like jamie klein. Jimmy nine after a bloody mary. You sell a lot of money to the black work. I love koala bears. They're they're they're cute and furry news. Don't give shit that. Just sitting around eating made their own for that. yeah nutritious. it's a second so yeah. I'm going with koala bear. Would against that can dazzle prince harry. You're gonna say again every well. I thought jamie's jimmy's choice exam. That was going to be prince harry She does refer ginger koala. We going to change my prince harry sitting in the quarter in the shed hardy. That's a party. Excuse me jamie jamie. Would you have any bamboo jamie bamboo any. Hey that's my that's my best british accent. Us anywhere selected ion fucker. I always wanted combined is one of the tasmanian devil of but i don't want i don't like really want the actual one from as many i want cartoon has been in double fan so i it doesn't exist exactly why go halfway and and you know says mattocks i I just identify with them. We're both harry walter. Prone nasty outbursts out of nowhere. We both like no fucking pigs in a lot of noise doing is i think I think tasmanian devil you do like to spend circle suits of a mix nude. It's got your key. Here's the thing is going to be like the most basic exotic animal. Because i can't you put the expectations of the concrete or no. It said it was a show killer. I said it was suck. I thought it was sort of the expectations for a. What's your choice. Calypso are man. I i i i don't i don't have an answer i don't scam. Don't have a choice of scam. There's not a single on this. Oh that i would want pickup. I have nothing. There is not a single animal. I would ever want in my fucking house. Not at all. Nope Fish zilch nothing. I had a fish to fish. The my kids wanted to carnival lasted all of about seven days. That's carnival Yeah i know. I just like the carney's iran. just no i. i don't like it's a blind spot in my personality. I am sensitive that. It's just me. But i am am not an animal person at all. Good stay the fuck out of my house. That's where i'm at the killer. I don't have an existing ship for stopping. It's all he's why is that. You're not a a an animal person. Why the fuck do i want to clean up after another living being. I like it. Look i like other people's dogs. I'll go to somebody else's house. I will play when all day and you'll think oh my god. He loves ducks. No that's some bitches not coming back to my house. Because i'm not cleaning up piss not cleaning up shit and i sure she ain't cleaning up puke or doggy diarrhea around my house. Absolutely the fuck nat. So that's how i am. That's how i am with kids odds. Same thanks i get it. I totally get. It makes them successful exotic animal. What i want. Well what a lion sure. Why not sure that. But that's not that excited. It's not crazy weeks. Is this the third already one week. I think it's one week right. Nine days nine fucking day. A i think february third is going to be on a wednesday. When our it's getting to be turned to what has had an animal. There is going to be a lot of keith. Is depressed sought by from you guys from you fuckers. Nobody else weight. So now you kind you kind of gloss over briefly the whole point of this show which is joe exotic who has been sent to prison for twenty two years for setting up a hit man to kill his arch-rival that bitch carole baskin so much that donald trump was gonna part in him that he had a limo with his lawyer. A hair stylist a wardrobe person and shrink waiting outside the prison for him to get out and he's gonna give and now he's hoping that biden and harris will do it because they are big into prison reform. It's as low as like living definitely still living on another got nothing else to hope for. I guess i mean look at your background. Does that look like the the look into that man's eyes. Do you see sane in a sane individual sandy. Hi i feel safe with him. Worth more because of the tiger. Then dad's that's phoenix. It's like i was thinking about it. Him watch that show since when it first came out it was march right with getting fourteen now. Big that was all there was like fucking insane. We did a whole lot of now gone. We did a whole episode. No one talks about yet Well because like so when it first came out it was more like. Is this for real. Is this real like what you like. I got halfway through it still questioning whether it was real or not and then you can do some internet research in. It's like jesus christ These fuckers really do exist. It's like that other There was another Many series on netflix. About the same time. Don't fuck with cats draw. That is good. Yeah that was real good but at the same time like i. I almost didn't watch it. Because i was like. What the hell is this. It didn't seem like something that would be what it was. And then when you get you go. Yeah so badly needed that rabbit hole the dive down and came just the right moment. Yeah i mean when you think about it though like i mean it is just florida. I mean right. I'm just saying like just florida. Being florida really. I didn't it with all that strange. To be honest to me is mistaken you know. Everyone talks about west virginia a florida. There's a lot of cousins fucking going on down there you know. The big cities are more normal per se but outskirts panders cousin fucking going on there l. west virginia stats like the kingdom of Fuck but i'm just saying and florida looks like a giant limp. Dick so get this lost so we're pissing on cuba. This country's lancet venus justice and it makes sense that it's just filled with old man. Peacocks when they say hanging out at the sun they mean hanging out at the sauna. I mean really. It is a it is a lame ass state. I mean it was just filled with freaking old people in dance clubs. I mean but it's warm and no state sales income tax and lots of degenerates always some weird new story. It always comes out. Florida always did mention dance clubs managed by them. Yeah there's no so yeah so jamie jamie jamie yet some noise okay you ask in your judgment cuba. Ask all right So yeah like. I said a docile episode. I was right shell so any anybody watching anything good. In the last week. I watched the elephant man. Drunk didn't even need to ask. You already knew jersey. Should not ma. I i did. I went back and listened to a ban for seventy s. A prog rock angel. I've been really digging. So if you guys like. They're very much like Early kim slash led zeppelin of you like either one of those bands checkout angel. I think angels pretty damn good. So so i've been listened to cool angel anybody else mike i think i. I think i've actually got my filled streaming. Finally i just gotten to the point. Where i turn on something and i start to get really fucking angry and i have no idea why i i like. I'm watching. The ending is season three. And i'm just like i'm so pissed off now i just. I don't. i can't think of any other reason other than i'm just streaming things too much. Turn it off eventually. Did you not see. I just finished cobra kai last night. So are you not happy without with where it's going at the end of the. I think it's very good show. I think it's really entertaining weights and that universe. Some of the things they've done and they really play on the nostalgia which i love. I think it's because i don't know maybe it's because there could be because there's not clear good guy anywhere but something about it just makes me angry. Turn the nelson's you man. I'm like fuck this shit. I wanna kill these fuckers. My only my only issue right. Yeah right would solve a lot of tapes. My only criticism. Mike never say. Fuck that shit. We gotta put our titles. Every time we can so because they hyphen were were reading this screenplay tomorrow night. In the the lifeline in the in the screenplay is is Noise nice any good note. Anybody else got anything to talk about. I've actually recently purchased the four k versions of hobbits. And i was gonna get lord of the rings sold out. Everywhere i got the day bursar the hobbit and it's i mean regardless of. He's going to movies. They are still incredibly beautiful on a four k. Tv because unlike a lot of kind of like what they did with three gone. Mike mike can't contain soak version. I don't even see him so pissed off it's tv. I'ma got love those movies. mike. I watch all. It's an extreme movies. Let's make three more. Make twelve your arm. I'll watch them all thing. You don't expect movies like strict back. I see the problem with empire. Strikes back was of wandering through the woods. Struggled never tried to fuck astir. Only pissed about the incest standoff and said. I am your father to that. I can't say anything i love. I love all those movies. So i can't see anything i will say. I can't rebound empire. I can't rebuttal lord of the rings. So gino good and that'll do it for episode fifty noise. We'll be back next week. And i'll take part not. That's pretty much it expenditure teams now are we doing.

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April 22: What goes up

As It Happens from CBC Radio

51:13 min | 3 weeks ago

April 22: What goes up

"Hi i'm michelle. Shepherd host of uncover sherman any from cbc podcasts in nineteen. Ninety nine fifteen year old charmian on devel- disappeared on her way to a job that police believed in exist. Four months later her remains were found in a wooded ravine. I revisit the case that has stayed with me for over twenty years ever since i first covered it as a cub crime reporter for the toronto star you can find uncovered share meany on. Cbc listen on your favorite podcast app. This is a cbc podcast. Hello i'm carol off. And i'm chris ouden. This is as it happens. The podcast edition the amount of what goes up. Must come down. The prime minister announces strict new targets on greenhouse gas emissions. But we'll ask the environment minister. Why canada isn't matching even tougher targets set by the white house the inside track a us. Federal judge orders los angeles to house every homeless resident of skid row by this fall and the group that led. The lawsuit is overjoyed and surprise. They actually got more than they asked for. Better safe than sorry after a week of outrage over his government's handling of covid ontario premier. Doug ford apologized today. Sort of but brampton mayor. Patrick brown says he wants less contrite. Talk and more action. She took everywhere. She went by storm for the legendary burlesque dancer. Tempest storm. being on stage wasn't just a stage. She performed from her teens right up into her early eighties talking points. A minnesota man's crowning achievements are his world records related to his hair. And you'll explain when his latest triumph that tallest mohawk spike really started to gel and and in seamless transition switzerland joins countries around the world in asking people to test their soil health by burying underpants in their garden where microorganisms will feast upon them as it happens thursday edition radio that sings the song of letting things have your thong. Justin trudeau says. Canada can do more to fight climate. Change this morning. The prime minister told an international summit. That canada would aim to reduce its carbon emissions by forty to forty five percent by the end of the decade. The old goal had been thirty percent but other countries are promising to hit even more stringent targets. It was joe. Biden new convened. Today's summit and the us president is promising that his country will cut its emissions by more than half by twenty thirty. Jonathan wilkinson is canada's environment minister. We reached him in vancouver wilkinson. We have heard your announcement at the same time. We heard joe biden's commitment for fifty. Two percent reduction by twenty thirty years is only forty to forty five percent. Why would you allow the americans. Don't do you well. I think what what's What our target reflect is significant ambition on the part of canada As you will know there's been enormous progress on the climate file over the course of the past few years from a place where emissions were rising rapidly to a point where we can commit to a target that it is a business is of course every country is a little bit different in terms of their their structure. United states. i think has a bit of an easier path in the sense that they have a lot of coal fired power generation which is being phased out for economic reasons. And so in that context. You know if you look at what is required to make the reductions. I would actually argue that. Candidates target is more ambitious than the american darden justin trudeau appeared like the beacon of climate action For the world. I when we had a climate change denier in the white house is it. Is it harder to look good. When you've got joe biden. Well i think it's a good thing in the sense that we are pushing each other. We've certainly spent a lot of time with the americans. I've spent a lot of time with with john kerry talking about these issues and looking at what they are intending to do and And how that relates to the structure of their economy and the same thing back and forward. I think if you look on twitter. John kerry was pretty accused of in his endorsement of the canadian target. Because i think the americans understand We understand what they're facing. They understand what we're facing. And i think we're pushing each other to be more ambitious number of climate change activists in this country though thought that you should have been more ambitious that could have got to be fifty or sixty percent and we heard in the press conference today that this was. Would you consider to be not just ambitious but more significantly achievable. And so what are the factors that prevent you from going beyond this. What makes it unachievable to go beyond this level. Well i would say that you know. We've always been clear with canadians that we do need to be ambitious on the climate issue. Science tells us that we need to be ambitious but it needs to be attainable as well. It can't be something that you simply throw a number out and have absolutely no idea how how you can achieve that. And so we have looked at is the overall structure of the economy and And how we can drive emissions and where we can drive them and how rapidly we can drive them as i said before one of the big issues that is different than canada versus you know state then and in europe is the lack of coal fired power generation which is You know Apparently low hanging fruit in terms of the cost associated with the reductions that you need to achieve in canada. We have a very clean grit so we need to make progress in reducing emissions from transportation from oil and gas from other industrial emissions and from buildings and our plants focused on driving those missions. As quickly as we possibly can they. Canada is a very high emitter on a per capita basis even if the percentage is low being biggest single emitter in canada is the oil and gas industry so i wonder if that is a chief factor. What prevents you from going. Further is the are you constrained by the political realities of alberta and the jobs in the oil sands no. We're not constrained by. I don't think the political realities but we are constrained by sort of the laws of physics so there's a lot of work going on to reduce emissions associated with the oil fans and with the only guy sector in general through things like the clean fuel standard which is just coming into force methane reduction regulations which were just coming into force. The price on pollution a lot of the technology funds that we set up to to look at hydrogen and carbon capture. And all those kinds things but the second way in which we're gonna drive emissions reduction through the only guy space is accelerating the deployment of zero emission technologies because the oil that is produced in. Canada is used either domestically for transportation applications or by and large in the united states for transportation related applications in the faster weakened zero emission vehicles and moved to electricity or hydrogen. The faster we will see those reductions coming for the dads fossil fuels. We can't get away from the fact that that is where the co two emissions principally come from the oil and gas industry in canada's the biggest amidror alberta is high in the list and so These realities and so your government is supporting pipelines buying supporting that industry at the same time claiming that you're going to get these emissions into controls. Can you really do both. Oh absolutely i mean and and we are doing. I mean i just went through the gleaned people standard methane red. Is the price done pollution work. We're doing with large in that space and another spaces. Those are gonna make a big big change. But i would also say we are working and we're working actually reactively with the americans right now. On how can you accelerate the deployment of the zero emission vehicles. I mean you know you will be very well aware that ninety eight percents. Lots of the cars that exist on the road today us oil gasoline. We need to get to a point where zero that in the transition between now and then we are going to need oil in the context of the internal combustion. Engine you promising to achieve the cuts to our emissions without changing your targets for the price of carbon. Is that possible absolutely. I mean the price on solution is an important part of our plan for sure and and that was part of what what i announced. What the prime minister in in december there are also some really important regulatory measures and there will be some new regulatory Elements so we're working on enhancing the methane regulations with the us and we're looking at transportation related regulations But we certainly are also going to need to do more on the investment side in areas like buildings and those kinds of things to accelerate progress there but yes absolutely. We are of the view that the price pollution is important but we laid it out so that businesses in particular can have certainty of what that's gonna look like over the course of the coming ten years. If you so confident you can achieve these targets that raising the price on carbon and why not be more ambitious. The focus for us is being on as ambitious as we possibly can be And ensuring that we are moving towards economic opportunities that a low-carbon universe will provide and candidate extremely well positioned to go after but it also has to be done in a way. that's going to be manageable. They go through this transition for workers in for provinces and territories and that's essentially what we're doing is putting together a plan that's gonna drive economic growth At the same time then it's going to significantly reduce emissions. We will leave it there. Ministerial consent. you. Thank you very much. Jonathan wilkinson is canada's environment minister he's in vancouver today. Premium doug ford wanted ontarians to know. He's sorry we move fast. Put in measures. But we move too fast and i know that some of those measures especially around enforcement. They went too far simply put. We got it wrong. We made a mistake and for that. I'm sorry nice sincerely apologize. I know these lockdowns. They've been devastating for people for some. It's been dealing with isolation at home for others as being going to work despite the stress of working in a job that puts you and your loved ones that higher risk of getting cold. I want you to donald that. I hear you. I understand you're going through. I understand your frustration. for days. ontario's premier is faced scathing criticism for his government's handling of covid nineteen last friday. The province introduced new restrictions including shutting down playgrounds and giving police new powers to stop people. Those two measures were quickly scrapped. After mass outrage what health officials in so many others really wanted to see was paid sick. Leave for essential workers and now after weeks of desperate pleas for such a measure the premier said his government will be offering something although the details weren't clear but that pledge and the apology did nothing to prevent tough questions from reporters. Here's the global males queens park reporter laura stone. What exactly are you story for. And what are you going to do about it. I'm sorry we acted Two quick on the Measures all i hear is limited mobility limit mobility and We moved to quick. But anytime you know. If i make a mistake i corrected immediately which we did on the weekend. Patrick brown is the mayor of brampton. Mayor bound premier is sorry for moving too fast. Is that the apology. You wanted to hear. Well i appreciate the premier's taking a different course on paid sick days on resources for hot spots The same old approach isn't working. We need more tools more resources to deal with the pandemic. it really is out of control. Hopefully we're going to see the details of that change course in the days to come he said as you heard he got Seemed to bit teary there. I hear you. I understand what you're going shoe. When speaking about essential workers and healthcare workers. What is it you want. Premiered understand about what is going on in brampton. Twenty two percent positivity rate in brampton our largest work sectors food processing transportation logistics there essential workers so when they when they have these lockdowns and they spent all this time focusing on patios or hair salons. They really miss the mark on where the transmission is happening. It's happening in these crowded and we need the resources to help them. The fact that we are so far into the pandemic and we still haven't vaccinated are essential. Workers is a mistake. You know paid sick days as a tool. That would help us until we got a vaccine. Then got these workers protected. It was a mistake that we didn't have that tool. You know. I i did speak to the premiere last night. I was animated yesterday about the of vaccines and he called me last night. He he heard my frustration. He you know he. He promised help He expressed a concern. But you know we we really. We really really just need not promises. But tangible help i noticed today they just announced three mobile clinics that are going to be set up in brampton in the next two weeks for for three factories And i hope that is three of many more to come. Brampton is one of the hardest. Hits hotspots ontario possibly in canada. Because you do have so many of the warehouses factories you have a lots of places where people are getting infected and then taking it home you. You've said that you need vaccines. Do you think that you're getting your fair. Share benton look at A kobe cases. We have twenty percent of the cova cases in the province. We have ten point five percent of the population of the provincial population. And we've had ten percent of the vaccine so under our per capita population when the promise was to have an acute focus on hot spots. If there's a house on fire you go to that house and you. You take the waterguns focused on that house. You're not going to go and put a drop of water on every house in the entire subdivisions. So you have to treat every house barely and what really irritated me earlier in the week as i was looking at the numbers from the pharmacy rollout and brampton has eight pharmacies delivering cova nineteen vaccines for every one hundred. Thousand residents. tronto has nine. Mississauga has ten kinks to has twenty six pharmacy delivering covert nineteen vaccines for every one hundred. Thousand residents. kingston has one of the lowest positivity rates. I can't make sense of that. Now there there is a story of of between you and doug. Ford might be some bad blood there. Do you think that that is behind it. You think that You are getting less. Because the the premier has some feelings about your relationship. No you know i i. I found him over the last year. very collaborative over for dinner at his house last summer and You know. I found him willing to listen willing to talk. I think there is any history. That's preventing from us from working together for Our city why the disconnect then why do you think that is so i think the disconnect is on. Not recognizing the urgency. That's existing some of our hot spots. I think this has been a failed vaccine strategy not just in ontario but but canada wide and so we treat every province the same. We treat every city in ontario the same. That's how it started when the vaccine rollout Happened and this virus is not equitable. it's not fair. It attacks densely populated areas faster than it does a rural area tax a crowded factory different than it does someone who's working from the comfort of their home and so this notion that you have to treat. Everyone candidate the same and every city in ontario. The same is flawed And in fairness mr forty is his promised me last night that there's gonna be an increase of vaccines coming. And i take him at his word that he's he's serious about helping and I explained to him. The data that public health is provided to us in terms of inequity vaccines. And you know he did. Tell me he's gonna look at it. He told me he was being different. Different data at a provincial level. The doctors your District in brampton are saying people are turning up. Because they're going. They're getting their infections in workplaces and they're getting them replaces that they have to go there. They won't get paid or their essential workers. They're bringing those infections home. There are families people going to work with infections. They know they've got it. They've got to keep working. So what's wrong with that picture. It's a real challenge. We have a workforce that is critical to canada's supply chain and for far too long officials in ottawa and toronto. Said you can't touch these factories but we said enough in peel region. We issued a section twenty two order to say any factory with five or more connected cases in a two week period is going to be Closed down we know that there are factory. Workers go into work sick or knowing that they could get sick because they can't afford to miss a paycheck. Twenty five percent of our covid nineteen cases since august pill region have involved essential workers going into work sick dogs. Lord replaced you as leader of the progressive conservative party just before the election in twenty eighteen. We don't need to revisit that controversy. But i wonder do you think about how you might have done. Things differently over this pandemic had been there. Premier right now yeah. I provide feedback regularly to the province. I've got lots of friends there. I've shared my back with the premier chief of staff and has it been listened to some cases yes in some cases it. Hasn't you know when. I was pushing the premier for more testing for a commitment on a new hospital on isolation centers in. He came through on paid sick days and more vaccine. It's been slower than i would have liked. But you know i would say last week. I was having the prime minister. And the premiums call asking how they can help frankly. I haven't seen this level of collaboration any other period. But there are some positives in this innocent versity. We'll leave it there mayor bound. Thank you okay. Thank you patrick. Brown is the mayor of brampton ontario. Immune A lot of us are sporting uncharacteristically. Longhair these days. Thanks to continued physical distancing from our barbers but in joe grizz. Moore's case hair is anything but uncharacteristic. The minnesota man has already a world record holder for tallest full mohawk now. He says he's netted himself still more hair raising recognition. We read mr grizz more in park rapids minnesota. Yeah when is the last time you cut your hair in two thousand and thirteen. I had to cut my hair Actually sixty six inches long at that point. That's when i got married. We went on honeymoon. And saltwater dreaded my hair to the point of no return so badly had to save at that point which is a little disappointing. But it's like my super power Grows incredibly fast scenario. How before you put it up into a mohawk. Did you have any idea how long it was. Well no not entirely no. I'm the guinness world record title holder for the tallest full mohawk currently and i was awarded that last year at that time. My hair was forty two and a half inches so it's grown eight inches. Apparently and i hadn't really practiced or pre-measured so i was a little nervous going into the attempts to be honest with you. But you know. I'm feeling pretty confident. Because the final measurement was fifty point nine inches and the current record is forty eight inches and that's held by a man in japan. Who has the record for the tallest hawks bike. Forty eight inches. So you're you're fifty one inches right. Yeah yeah so pretty solid about this. Okay so how did did you get it to stand up straight like that. I mean is there. A lot of superglue involve yeah. That's a good question I won't recommend superglue. No there is a product called got to be glued Which is kind of like the superglue four hair. It's pretty spectacular but There's lots of goes into my hairstylist. Name is k. gm and she's a pro at this. You have to wash and dry the day before or the day of excuse me. She has to flat iron. My hair's pretty curly so she has to get nice and straight first and then she just rats it or teases it. I should say to the base real secure because it's all about the base And then from that point on my mother or my wife usually stand on ladders and Hold it straight up. Real tight As she's you know kind of working her way up teasing the hair and playing hairspray piece by piece by piece until it's solidified into place so it's a pre actually. It's pretty quick. It's about an hour. The picture i've seen is straight up off the top of your head right. So did your mom have to hold it up. What was being sprayed. Yeah she's a very strong woman because it it takes a while and she literally has to pull it as hard as you can for that whole period. So yeah it's sticking straight up in the was the one that i did. It looks like i have an enormous tone sticking head. The tallest mohawk spike is literally a measurement from the scalp to the one longest strand of hair sticking out the top my previous title for the full mohawk. That's different. That's that's more of a fan is if i have a fan sticking up at the top of my head. And that's a measurement from the front the top and the back of your head so couple of differences there. Okay so this is one spike. But i mean you're tall guy to begin with right so have you have to. You have to get around with this fifty one inches on top of your head. you know. i'd say years ago it was much easier to get around. I'm six one. And then and now you know i have another fifty inches of hair sticking straight up telling my head so i'm giants at that point so No i don't go anywhere. He didn't go out and about. You must have been tempted. I i did. I actually went out Kind of after the fact and it was a pretty windy day. So i mean look like a was being carried around by parachute but it's pretty funny cars drive by honky. You always get attention with something crazy. Is that so. This is a good time. Is you spike down now. Yeah oh yes for sure. Yep yeah. I can't function it's like i have another limb Sticking out of my body somewhere. If i if i did wear it up in a mohawk all the time so no i kind of wear it. Willie nelson style. I have it in a couple braids. And then i tie those up into into knots just to go about my daily routines. So how did you get into come down. I mean from with all that that teasing and the and the and they got to be glued. Yeah yeah that's a wonderful question and that's kind of the the dark side of this whole event because it's it's a painful process. I have to that that. I it's a bottle of conditioner. Maybe and at least a couple of hours in the shower. It's relatively miserable but by the time it's all said and done but i always like to step positive and so it was all worth it when it was happening we do every consider cutting it You know how people asking me that And i'm not sure why. I always say no to that but i guess i just feel comfortable with a main. I suppose but you know. I'll say when it when it hits the ground again then then is probably kind cat it Up to that. I kind of liked the maintenance you know. Okay now you have to wait to find out if it to be certified by the guinness book for your for your spike so Are you planning your next extreme hair thing. Oh boy nope. I'm not you know the titles that exists If i'd get both of those. Then i'm i'm more than happy. I'm honored to have these titles. And i think i'll call it quits at that point unless of course somebody. Somebody breaks me when that happens. Then i might have to might have to give it a go again. Well anyway. I wish you luck and thanks for telling us about it. Thank you know. it's good good. News is always fun. So i i appreciate the opportunity to show that thank you bye. Bye bye joe grizz. More is the world record holder for tallest full mohawk and he hopes soon to be recordholder for tallest mohawk spike we reached him in park rapids minnesota for more on this story including truly mind. Boggling photos visit our website at cbc dot ca slash aih and as the swiss project's website puts it. They eat the underpants with ravenous hunger. So wait what. Oh i've got my pages out of order. Hear sorry go back to the beginning just a second okay. And now. The news in briefs. That's a week start. Whoever wrote this anyway it goes on. Scientists in switzerland are joining soil scientists around the world in burying something under there I just made you say underwear. Which is what they're burying while. I'm sorry this is obviously a first draft terrible. I'm not reading anymore of that. But it does make the point. Swiss scientists are in fact sending thousands of pairs of cotton underpants volunteers who will bury them in their gardens. It's an experiment to determine soil health across the country. Switzerland's proof by underpants project is just the latest in a series of similar international projects canada's soil conservation council launched. Its own a few years ago with a grocer better project title so dick and share your experiences with us and social networks using hashtag. Soil your undies. It's time to soil your unease in the name of soil conservation. How it works is if you dig the underpants up after two months and their full of holes. That's good it. Means you're soil contains lots of microorganisms and and this is where we came in as the swiss project's website puts it eat the underpants with ravenous hunger. So try it out. If you're so inclined the is maybe the windows to the soul but the underpants are the windows to the soil from. Cbc podcasts and the fifth estate brainwashed is a multi part investigation into the cia experiments in mind control from the cold war an m. k. Ultra to the so called war on terror. We learn about a psychiatrist who use his patients as human guinea pigs. And what happens when the military and medicine collide. Listen to brainwashed on the cbc. Listen app or wherever you get your podcasts. In one thousand nine hundred ninety five. A college student disappeared on a trip across the usa avid. Portia missing right away for. They wouldn't take it so. His mother started investigating the case file. I started going through in people that wasn't interviewed. I joined this mother search for justice or you recording us am someone knows something season six available now and a los angeles will soon have to put roofs over the heads of its homeless residents this week. A federal judge ruled that the city has until mid october. To find every person without a home in the city's skid row neighborhood a permanent place to stay and for women and children that timeline is under the city has just ninety days in his ruling. Judge david carter wrote all of the rhetoric promises. Plans and budgeting cannot obscure the shameful reality of this crisis that year after year there are more homeless angelenos and year after year. More homeless angelenos die on the streets. The ruling is a response to a lawsuit against the city by a group of residents activists and community leaders called the l. a. For human rights. Daniel conway is the group's policy adviser. We reached him in sacramento daniel. What is it like to hear such a strong statement from that judge. I mean i think it shows the the deep thought that went into his grueling and it shows really los angeles has an opportunity to transform the lives of tens of thousands of people really. And do you think it's it's the language was necessary. Do you think people in los angeles need the kind of wakeup call. The judge seems to be giving judge. Carter began his his ruling. With abraham lincoln and the civil war and slavery and he traced you know american history through segregation and redlining and discriminatory policies that kept african americans and other minorities out of certain neighborhoods all of which lead to policies that resulted in again. Thank people being homeless. On the streets of los angeles in particular in skid row so he gave a really powerful context that i think was helpful for all of us to hear but i also think really dating for a lot of the activists and a lot of people who you know have lived on skid row and been kind of making the point that you know when you have a city like los angeles leave like eight percent of the population african american but something like forty percent of the population is african american. You obviously have a big problem there. And i think this hundred page ruling really highlights how we got here and why we need do something radical to change the situation. The mayor of los angeles had already promised to spend one billion dollars this year to get people off the street. So what was your alliance the alliance for human rights trying to achieve by bringing this lawsuit to the federal judge so we brought this lawsuit over a year ago in marks and frankly we had spent several months before we find a lawsuit meeting with city and county officials. Say what we want to do is basically figure out how to use the courts to untie your hands to let you do all of the grandiose things that you've told voters that you want to do to address this crisis but have not been able to do for a variety of reasons. We wanna basically bring this lawsuit as as kind of a friendly mechanism to kind of let you guys do what you need to do. So from the beginning we've been clear. What our goal was which was not to wear or arrest homeless people not to necessarily make the politicians look bad but to frankly acknowledged that it what we've been doing hasn't worked and we don't need to assign blame we need to adequately rethink everything that we're doing about this situation but frankly you know after a year i think judge carter lost patients and you know frankly we lost patients so that's kind of what led to to our motion and ultimately this injunction from carter. And now you have a court order. That backs up what they. The city politicians had committed themselves to absolutely. I mean i think from their perspective they would like to be able to handle this themselves and they think that you know we have a separation of powers here and that it. This is their job. But i think while the judge clearly feels that they're not up to it. I mean. his order was a vote of no confidence. The reality is the all of the outreach. Workers and the social workers who who implement these county programs than city programs essentially. What they're doing is they're offering people a place on a waiting list for the most part and that breeds a lot of skepticism and among the house community and frankly it's the same for the house community because they see billions of dollars getting spent. They don't see anything getting better. Can you describe if i were to visit to visit. What's called skid. Row that neighborhood. What would we see. You know it's a great question. Because i think people have an image of los angeles right of you know the hollywood sign and beaches and you know stars on the sidewalk and i think the reality is if you go to los angeles today you would see tents on top of those same stars. You would see tenths at those beaches. You would see tents in the parks you would see tens downtown Because you have humanitarian crisis playing out in our pieces. I mean you've seen pictures of what refugee camps look like. It's taking that and putting it in one of the most modern cities on the planet. So it's it's heartbreaking and it really it just doesn't make any sense there's no justifying it and the judge himself set the order like there's no defence of the indefensible and that's that's really that's really where we stand so you have these tents everywhere downtown in los angeles you got. There's ever i understand this cardboard shelters. There's old rv's plywood structures that sounds like a shanty. Shantytown it really. Is you see cars in. Rv's parked throughout the city. You know and underpasses and you know what you also see. Is you see violence committed towards people who are living on housed as well as house. People you see fires vandalism all of these other effects of having thousands of people living outdoors. Okay so the city now has ninety days to find a place for every woman and child in that area and then six months for everybody else. Is that a realistic timeline. I think it is actually i. I mean in partly say that because when you think about what we see with natural disasters in the us whether it's a hurricane or fire You see the federal government in state authorities come in and build miniature cities in a matter of days right. They're able to provide for people right. And so i think frankly it is doable to to do something of that scale in six months you live this every day but you know for people on the outside. California is a symbol of immense prosperity throughout the world. We we think of all the billionaires who lived there and also think the wealth the opulence. What do you think the reality. This what you're describing. What do you think that looks like to the rest of the world. I think it's unfathomable frankly or california or silicon valley or hollywood or the future and yet we have one hundred and fifty thousand people living in dying on the streets every day. There's really no explanation or excuse for it and yet you hear lots of explanations or excuses for it so i think it's time for some really catalytic changes here in and hopefully this lawsuit is just the beginning of that. Daniel will be watching. Thank you thank you. So much for your time go daniel conway with the l. a. alliance for human rights he was in sacramento Analee coakley knows how badly meatpacking workers need vaccines. Dr cokely's a physician at calgary's mosaic. Refugee health clinic as we told you a couple of weeks ago. She's one of the people who've been helping. Organize a special vaccine drive at the cargill plant in high river alberta. That's the point. Where nine hundred and fifty people tested positive for the corona virus. Last spring. They were set to begin. Giving plant workers. The modern vaccine this week and then the company delayed deliveries now. The program has been put on. Hold dr coakley told the bbc how she responded to that news well. It was very disappointed. Of course yesterday. I think i passed through the various stages of grief but It's a new day today. And i think i've landed on acceptance and so today the team will regroup and we'll plan for The clinic that will happen at some point in the future when berta health obtains vaccine. How many people have signed up to get shot from the last time i spoke to the nurses that cargill it was around. Sixteen hundred workers had signed up for the vaccine. Which is an incredible feat. You know you and others worked so hard to get full by an amongst employees. Do they feel misled today. that's my worry you know That break of trust where we say we're going to do something Especially when we say we're going to do something as the health system We say we're going to do something. And then we don't do it and we betrayed that trust and so. I'm quite concerned that that the trail is going to lead to reduced uptake in the future. But betrayal of trust doesn't just live within the worker but it could Sort of for lack of a better word infect other family members might also then become distrustful and then you know families living communities and then entire communities could perhaps be more distrustful of the of the health system. We have heard from some of the workers. I mean The workers said you lie. Which is you know like a a gut punch so Yes so it's quite. It's you know i feel. I feel horrible about the situation. That was dr analii. Cokely's speaking to david gray host of the calgary eye-opener after vaccination drive at the high river alberta cargill meat packing plant was put on hold when tempest storm was forty five. She told washington post. I'll put myself up against a twenty two year old any day. And i'll tell you who's going to come out on top and decades later. The so-called last queen of burlesque was still coming out on top. She made appearances into her eighties. After a career is one of the world's best known burlesque dancers tempest storm died this week. She was ninety three back in nineteen seventy eight. She told the. Cbc gentleman where. I was working as a cocktail waitress. They said you have a great figure. You should In show business. I said well what type of show business he's wanted you become. A stripper was very crude. Just oh i'm from a very small town georgia and i said never me take off my clothes in front of all those people. Oh that would be horrified. And i was very insulted that he was suggested so he can. I said no. He said well i know the woman. The follies theatre. I can make an appointment for. Maybe you're just starting the chorus line. Maybe you go to vegas and become a showgirl. So i said well that might be an idea so i finally went down and she hired me to go into chorus line. I was working in the skits with the comedians and then making forty dollars a week and which wasn't very much money and she says well if you do it but after about two weeks she's a strip. I'll give you sixty dollars. We'll get raise your salary to sixty dollars a week. So i said i'll take it tempest storm in nineteen seventy eight new mishra. Mukherjee is canadian. Filmmaker who spent years with ms storm to make the documentary called tempest storm. It premiered hot. Docs in two thousand sixteen. We reached emission liquor g in toronto. Initia- what do you make of that clip from your friend tempest storm. That's tempest all right. I mean i met her quite a bit later than when that interview happens by you know she always knew how to tell a great story teller. Fasten hit that punchline. What was it that made her the queen of burlesque. I think she had found her purpose. and i think everyone who met her or saw her had the privilege of seeing her perform at new it the as she was a hundred percent about spreading joy at having fun and she loved being on stage she lived for her audiences but she said in that clip that. She was very shy of taking off her clothes in front of people coming from a small town. How did she go from that to. I guess well being the queen nebraska and clearly enjoying tremendously eight. And it's very interesting question Because when i met her she. I've about what struck me as well that she was so incredibly shy and she didn't seem to seek out the spotlight in that way Even in the film she didn't she didn't seek out. A documentary made a better life but described it to me. Was that you know that something came over her was on stage. She became. She said like another person. But i think a person within her would come out on stage and she was. She's happy and there was no fear. There's fear involved in it. She was when she stepped out on that stage she owned it and i think she was her best. Al she said in an interview in nineteen sixty nine. She said that she had never taken off all over. Close because it was not only immoral and illegal. I believe That time Not only immoral but she said it was boring and at something has something to be left to the origination. Well it's the rt's and i think she was a master at and for her it. Was you know about journey together. Not just stripping. There's nothing wrong with that. But for her it was about the dance bet. The music the performance the engagement with the audience at telling a story she was a performer. So what was she wearing. This may be described with which would rip her costumes. Were incredible and ensures often would recall that she was that they would get stolen I mean she put a lot of these at ios Rhinestone jill thongs. On the bra she would have some sort of elegant sort of you know row or that was fears. You could kind of get glimpses. We couldn't quite see what was underneath the heels and she would still have been wearing heels when we were filming if she was allowed to. After she broke her hip she was kind of had to rethink that. A little bit do not begin with a mink coat. She did have been coat some of her performances dead. I think her performances evolved also likes route her career by some of the performances. I saw later on. You would see more. But i think that she did. She did. Tell me a story about an coach at that. That gave her and that also lost them. She was said to in the nineteen fifties. She was apparently making one hundred thousand dollars a year. Which is very big chunk of change in the fifties. It said that she wants caused the stampede of male students at the university of colorado. She said she had romances. With elvis with john f. Kennedy what did she tell you about all these parts of her life when you talk to her you know it was the perfect person did have the nfl. You know as a director having an interview subject like that. I mean her whole life from the very beginning from humble beginnings neasman george and she was hundred percent self-made but of course there were these sort of celebrities that she i'd you know Relationships with and she was very hesitant to give too many details about them. and i i often to my producing partner. Caitlin regard For linzie george we talk about tempests as like a secret keeper. I think she never sought that out as the reason for her being her own fame. You know she was known in her own right as as a performer. And so i think she was the she would recall these memories and it would bring her a lot of joy and especially alvis much was one of the ones where she actually you know there was. The photo and elvis had acknowledged. The relationship publicly was great too. I mean she taught much talked about alvis. She said she taught him everything he knew he was older than he was. He was twenty seven his twenty ten. You drew her out on some other parts of her life that she didn't talk about very much. Can you tell us a bit about her personal life. Yeah i think you know what interested me about tempest. She came out of you know she was born. Nineteen twenty eight. She was a self made enormously successful woman in her field and she also there was a cost to that. It took time you know. She had alluded to the fact that she had regrets In her life. And then you know through the years of interviewing her more and more sort of came out about you know the estrangement from her daughter which she really regretted her divorce from her husband at herb jeffries but she was able through the in the last. You know ten years of her life really Rock and with that. She had a list of things she wanted to revisit and to look at and we were lucky enough to see her go through that process and sometimes it worked out and sometimes it didn't but i think in the end of the day. She felt that she tried her best. What did she think of your film. I know she sat beside you at the premiere. Yeah i mean it was quite nerve wracking because we you know the kaitlan. I had decided that we would show her the film you know at its premiere at hot docs and i thought was next to her for the entire film when the credits started rolling you know she turned to me and she smiled said evicted and after that it was just sort of like the roth to the races we were able to sort of you know unleash the film on the world together and we made the film together so that was something. I really a really value. I understand to give you some advice. She did she said you know. Know your own worth and she really meant it. I think as a woman as of email director you know. I think she should see me and she would say you can't ask for permission. You know you have to just go do what you wanna do. And she was right. It's words of wisdom. I carry with me michelle. I'm sorry for the last of your friend and I appreciate telling us about our thank. You thank you so much for having me on. That was canadian. Filmmaker and emission mukherjee in toronto. If he'd like to see photos of tempests storm at that premier visit our website. Cbc dot ca slash h. George paddison is used to encountering geese at his new brunswick cottage but he's on accustomed to the kind of encounter. He recently had with one goose in particular and apparently besotted bird now known as gucci. Lucy mr patterson met lucy while doing some yard work and as he and his wife lisa explained to the cbc. The bird seemed prone to flights of fancy while we were out doing some spring work at the lake and i was probably four hundred feet from the lake. It's not uncommon for us to have peace down on the shore but i was just. They're sorta minding my own business and just raking And i don't know maybe there was a sound associated with the raking because there was a lot of rocks. Your tinkling over. But anyway after a while. I just looked over my shoulder and i saw this solitary in goose walking towards me and close to getting closer and closer so i put the rate between me and the goose just to ward it off or to you know in case it had You know an intention of attacking me or something. We just sort of watched each other for probably five or ten minutes and then it kind of moved away over to the side where the rake wasn't between us so i moved the rake between us again just to keep it at bay and then get back to work so just very carefully started going back to rock raking and things and and then that started what was probably six or seven hours together. Lease it what did you think was going on. I was amazed. I thought it's picked you for it's made. This is another woman your man but it really it it. It lead other people be around. Eventually i came out and we had some workmen there and didn't mind nothing phased it but it only wanted to be near george. It stayed within three feet of them if it could and he walked faster and he eventually just went about his day and went up to the garage which is three hundred feet away and the goose waddled. After if they'd by his side the whole time googling at any point trying to figure out what was going on. I did google and googled imprinting and geese choosing adults like i did all those and i couldn't find any situation where an adult goose bonded with an adult person like with a person. It happens often when they're babies but not you know not as an adult so i've been searching and couldn't find anything but it really like i couldn't capture it in the video and the and the pictures just how much you could see. It loved him. It was was just amazing to me. It was just love georgia's oblivious. Because i look at him like that all the all day. He didn't think anything of it. But it was amazing to me that connection that felt george and lisa patterson sharing the story of juicy lucy with cbc new brunswick terrace again. The couple says when they eventually left their cottage tried sneak away without ruffling lucy's feathers but she followed their car until it was out of sight. You've been listening to the as it happens. Podcast can be heard monday to friday on. Cbc radio one non sirius xm following the world at six also. Listen to the whole show on the cbc listen app. Download it for free from the app store or from google play. Thanks for listening. I'm carol off. And i'm chris for more. Cbc podcasts go to cbc dot ca slash podcasts.

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"Even before the pandemic happened. We know that people's feeding sorts going person to deal with waning. They prefer to be at home watching movies in streaming. There's so many digital services available now extreme video and the quality has been really increasing overtime. Pay gang it's tuesday march sixteenth. Ross knows more listeners. Welcome to the behind. The daily remarked. Poku made possible by new star. Marcus and today. I'm joined by two people. We have with us knows more islam to one of our forecasting analysts. Hey champ. Rosa joins by senior analyst tv and video. His name is ross spanish. Hey marcus hey buddy. So today's facts. Why do americans votes on tuesdays in november for the presidential election. Okay so most. Americans may already know this. You may get taught. Listen school so before i tell the world something. They already know getting lectured by mind. Why you in november on tuesday. You guys know this. Is this common knowledge. I'm just finding this out recently. I i don't know it. Okay all right let me feel okay all right all right so i feel better about this. Okay not lecturing anyone but some people might know it. And i might be so i apologize just ten down. The sounds a little bit so eighteen. Forty five congress established of voting day the first tuesday after the first monday in november because most people produced a maintains crops and farmland spring supplanting. Some was working. The fields full was for the hottest come november All of that was finish. That's why it was november. I it was on tuesday. Ain't because most folks will religious needed sunday for church and it took time to travel to the county seat to vote because the roads weren't great. This still not great bus. Apparently why we're still stuck with it. I know yes yes. There are also people are trying to change it to a weekend. Saturday and sunday to make it easier but that was twenty twelve and it didn't go anywhere anyway. That's why we then we still vote. Then today's topic say israel topic is when will our advertising be back and will it bring cinema ads with it. Okay so dave kaplan and week rise. The group notes was ten percent of growth in out of home. Advertising in two thousand and nineteen group says that was followed by thirty one percent dip last year nor depth us pretty strong decline thanks to the pandemic and this year they expect a partial rebounds of twenty three percent site positive ten negative that he wanted to positive twenty. Three nows now. You've just finished working on office for out of home. How figures line up for our total out of home advertising where having them dip pretty harshly twenty twenty s well. we're expecting association of around negatives thirty percent at disappointed. That's such a steep. Drop what we expected pre pandemic we had him over eight billion forehand and we update last year to just below seven billion. But not gonna only reaching just above six billion dollars until their advertising and one surprising facts about it that digital out of home within that as decelerating our factory to traditional article advertising it was gonna to by forty one percent in twenty twenty founding. Expect some kind of bounce back next year and twenty twenty one. We're expecting to colorado home to grow back around fifteen percent and digits actually go above thirty seven percent right so we've got total the foul nearly thirty percent launch coming back to about fifteen percent ish and twenty twenty one but as you said we break down into traditional regular kind of billboard type things and then digital screen versions of those and say digital fell by more last year but will recover by more this year. Why is that. It's mainly because detroit is much easier to transact and a high-ranking. That's one of the things i heard in twenty twenty because it's so much easier to manage does easy for all these advertisers to adjust quickly. Cancel the digital called or all the budgets that they thought their allocated digital they stopped. It was much harder to offer traditional because those agreements are made much more in advance. So whatever's planned to go up on those billboards They already sent out the flyers out those images so they're already put on but now vice twenty twenty one because it's so much easier to do it's easy to get back into the swing of things right after you know. Hopefully making everything is over and people are back outside going on transit systems going to airports malls all these places where you see these digital signs and billboards just Away estimates about one point twenty five million digital assigned across the us. nine six hundred digital billboards. Also there's a lot of like digital inventory out there so if things are recovering in the demand is still there for people to start. Advertising digital especially the big players like mcdonald's and apple is going to be pretty fast transitioning into the digital campaigns and ask the advertising association of america right. Oh exact and just another quickly to point out. We have these number jet but we do have digital programmatic breakouts and that's another advantage. Yeah how's that looking for digital programmatic Oh were expecting that to be eleven percent in twenty twenty one so eleven percent of all digital out of home. Advertising will be programmatic. Okay nice interesting to note because traditional even though it is bouncing back we have it going into the red in two thousand nine hundred twenty two right so that is flatter little bit negative on the traditional amounts of home side it's digital which is keeping out of home afloat slash growing slightly exactly. Yeah we expect as time goes on people to condition away from those traditional forms especially if things like the programmatic. Buying side grows disallow much easier for advertisers to use those platforms instead of the normal calling in agreements of What's on these billboards engine. Crunchy really continue. And what we're expecting. Twenty twenty one. The client by category is not something that we break. How the oh. Aaa numbers and they have some. Category breakouts transit's cinema roadside billboards own. How's it looking by category. Yeah you're right. We don't have the specific breakup. We look like oh a in all these sources and even some of the big players like front clear channel and lamar for that's information in terms of cinema dirt. Even hit really hard in twenty twenty will get gets that topic in a little bit. But they're saying that they internalize advertising lost over like ninety percent throughout the year there still some good performances. In terms of the categories people advertise on on retail insurance real estate needy advertising restaurants. Biggest one was still local miscellany services amusement stuff. We expect those still be the biggest sheriff of category advertise on out of home in twenty twenty one but Digital stuff is actually growing because some of the top hundred advertises nine colluded pay pal and so we know these digital streaming services are really going in there trying to get awareness. Everybody can so it's why digital services but they're trying advertising traditional formats. yeah and rossi wrote oxfam. You likely rented this summer as well. I'm wondering what you think of something. mr catherine from we could said he noted that even at deeply discounted prices there simply aren't enough people walking around to be captured by giant billboards. Y your thoughts on predictions on when that might change when that might become worthwhile for advertisers to start advertising billboards knowing that the return on investment is going to be there well in some cases. That's already happened in out of home. Has a lot of different subcategories. So if you look at like highway. Traffic and miles traveled by car America's actually courtesy similar to what it was before the pandemic people are out in the roads so roadside billboards i believe are still going to receive investment. Even though we've been in these lockdowns where things have been tighter is the. It's kind of paradoxical the the the indoor outdoor stuff like at shopping malls at all games at subway at the airport at the cinema. That i believe you won't see kick up until the latter half of the year when the vaccination rates kick up but the roadside highway stuff should be pretty high and there's even a fair amount of foot traffic and some city centers now to you like using location data. You can see that foot. Traffic has picked up compared to especially where it was in the winter. So you could still you know. Get some inventory. That's going to get a lot of eyeballs. If you're buying on you know outdoors that's next to a restaurants that are having outdoor seating and stuff. Yes oh really depends on the subcategory. That you're talking about eric asta of at week. It was signing a recent study between outdoor advertising association america a and the harris poll found seventy percent seven zero of us adults reported having a renewed appreciation of the outdoors nearly half of whom reported noticing and appreciating our advertising more than before the pandemic expects the novelty kind of renewed interest in billboards to actually be a driving factor. Well that's human beings have an appreciation for being outside right. I mean that's like they're not going outside with the intention of. I want to see a bunch of ads saying that within that they were half for people who said they would not seeing an appreciation alentejo advertising more than before is not just going to be as they emerged from the cocoons of their homes that they've been trapped in for the last year or do you think i can't imagine people appreciating advertising in the long run. It is something they put up with. It is a little tick dollar. You know we all back in the old days when you actually used to go to work now work from home work in times square so you passed by all these nice little digital billboards all the colorful stuff. You see auditing video. Seen it is a little bit of like artistic appreciation in there too. Like maybe you're not just looking at the ashford trying to buy a product but it just like these all these nice colorful jeans. I can look at. They described entire scene. And i think back sprints are kind of missing to big cities what shat all adspend does out of hem council nasimul in twenty twenty outdoor account for just under three percent. Total advertising industrial is going to stay pretty much the same and twenty one. Okay and yeah. The hsieh's in twenty twenty seventy five percents traditional to about five percent pretty much digital and then within three. Is tom by. Twenty twenty. three. The split is going to be sixty. Forty still in favor of traditional but digital is definitely gaining You mentioned the movies and that is definitely a segment which has been hard hit. I don't want to talk about that. a bit. More advertising in the cinema is wrapped into our into the out of home advertising number that we have a lot of people have group being one of them. Some theaters into america's biggest box office markets new york city and san francisco on reopening with a capped attendance of twenty five percent in a mosque requirements that moss requirement. I imagine it's going to popcorn sales movie theater giant. Amc said around ninety percent of its domestic theaters. Were now open. Including those in new york city was cinemas in la expected to open shortly. New york city reopening. The movies were opening in new york. City is seen as big deal since major markets make up the lion share of box office money maybe faces across the country have been open for a while a while now but ticket sales have struggle. Which because they've been in smaller markets. Would you expect from movie theaters this year. Well i expect things to pick up from where they are now. Certainly but i just don't see it being pre pandemic levels within the next five months like it it's gonna take time To get up there and also the windows closing so drastically to with so many of these content studios owned by large media companies bring their movies straight to streaming services or shrinking the amount of time that they release them exclusively at theaters is going to have an impact so i think theaters have fairly long road ahead. But i'd like to think rock bottom for revenue Now yes so to that point. Movie studios releasing hoffa number of films in twenty twenty s. They didn't twenty nineteen but not only that moving those titles more quickly to their respective streaming platforms. So you're saying that it's going to be a ceiling there just because of the theatrical window that will some research from harris poll on yahoo finance about how consumers feel about returning to cinemas over eighty percents. Eight zero of american adults said they had not been to a movie theater since before. March hands As of november fifty five percent of them still on going to the movies because of concerns number one concern was about getting covid nineteen from other visitors number to win a very distant second people saying that that wasn't a good movie out number three close that Behind that people thinking that the cinema wasn't going to be clean enough and then in fourth place was people saying that they'd rather stream something kovic was obviously as a big reason and therefore a covid vaccine just over half of people saying a covid vaccine would make them feel more comfortable surprisingly a law. This is tied to the pandemic situation. However is guest is going to be haunted. Tell how much of this is people. Not wanting to go back to movies and wanting to stream things instead because as we just saw streaming was the fourth reason that they weren't going to cinemas on this list and rt watson of the wall street journal was saying that. Is it going to be people rejecting the movie business or is it people saying. Hey over five. Hundred thousand. Half a million americans have died from the coronavirus. And there's gonna be this. Lingering fear about gathering in indoor spaces. Do you think whether we're going to be an with a tell. Just how much of people not wanting to get back into cinemas is going to be because of cinemas versus the coronavirus. I don't think it's going to be that clear as even before the pandemic happened. We know that people's feeding sorts going in person to theaters was waning. The preferred to be at home watching movies in streaming soccer's sony digital services available now to stream video and quality has been really increasing over time. You have four k a gain all these little batteries at now so you don't have the same sort of high quality of pure as soon with us to have it is still much better quality obviously instead than what the average person is near home but now coupled with all these anxiety of related to pandemic and being around everyone because everyone just has heightened sense of all these new viruses diseases and stuff that could happen. I think people are really worried about before you can have a mix of both. It's really hard to discern what's the leading reason. Of course you can just look at surveys and stuff but service dog is covered everyone. Both of them combined together gonna lead to a much slow recovery for cinema if they're evenness recovery. I don't wanna be debbie downer. But it's going to be really with about. Yeah yeah i mean. There is some recovery morning. Consult with sharing twelve percents of adults. We're comfortable going to the movies in april of last year. Two thousand twenty by the end of february twenty one ten months later that number Went from twelve percent to thirty. Two percents for millennials and younger people. It was closer to forty percents for boom as it was closer to twenty percents but yeah from twelve percent to thirty two percent nor bads february. We didn't really have a ton of people vaccinated so yeah. That number could get up pretty quickly as vaccinations increase. You mentioned that. There's a lot of different technologies now going into your home feature experienced buying different. Tv's people also buying larger. Tv's according to research company npd the average size of a replacement tv over the last couple of years has gone from forty seven to fifty one inches from two thousand eighteen to twenty twenty people looking for different entertainment options. Different apps available on those. Tv's some very concerning numbers from the us. Maybe businesses a whole and also some of the main players us maybe business and twenty twenty way than eighty one percent drop in box office revenue to just over two billion dollars. Imdb's box office merger reporting that that just over two billion is down from over. Eleven billion. The before and then. I m see america's largest movie chain saw q. Three and then also q four revenue fall ninety percent nine zero in each of those courses year on year recording losses in each quarter of close to a billion dollars the before they lost about twenty to fifty million per quarter so they still what making money but they have those so much more than pre pandemic has a couple of effects gents. I wanna talk about just to close out the lead story here that this could have the people not going to the movies full movies. One is because major theaters were closed movie studios significantly cut back on national. Tv and spending. Last year i spoke dot. Tv was estimating the it fell seventy percent. Twenty nineteen to twenty twenty two point. Three billion to close to seven hundred million. So that's one consequence of this. The seconds interesting. I'm wondering what you think of. This cameron faulkner the verge. Highlighting the some. Maybe theaters are trying to get creative. The bbc reporting the cg v the largest cinema company in south korea has been letting game is rented screens for two hour chunks costing ninety bucks before six pm and then one hundred thirty five bucks later in the evening. What'd you make your cinemas maybe pivoting into hosting different types of contents and saying live that way. I guess that's an interesting way of staying alive. You know basic think of nighthawk by prospect park and they've kind like pivoted to be in a little restaurant bar while they're not serving entertain. That's not exactly what you're getting at. But they found a new revenue lines on the sidewalk so they have to add some sort of sideline to keep things going for as long as they can before people turn back in full force. Yeah there's you're not making the same kind of issue with this with gaming with people going to the movies filling one hundred seats or the terrarium half capacity polls in about six hundred bucks including concessions so definitely losing money some weddings their bat industries. A boondoggle wanna wedding a month to keep the cinema opened right. Well you can even if they had like gaming tournaments where you wasn't just you and some friends renting out but maybe you know big gaming competitions maybe not the huge ones because they need big stadiums like arthur ashe stadium which was sold out or the barclay center some of the smaller ones. Maybe for some of the gaming rounds they could maybe rent theaters. Perhaps i think all learning from this competitions i should keep holding all my amc stocks and maybe they can have a partnership with game. Stop because i know they both need to transitions kind of digital landscape into have a new business plan revenue going forward. They work together. Host these kind of gaming tournaments sponsored by game stop within amc theaters. Maybe something to buying these stocks. The moon they see. Tv from the south korea the largest companies south korea were saying that they've had their screens books one hundred thousand times since launching in late january. Twenty twenty one. There's a us company malko theaters. They have thirty-six cinemas in southern states. They also experimenting with letting folks rent screens for gaming will private viewing malcolm select gaming as its cord office. Two hours for a hundred bucks or three hours for one fifty. They can host up to twenty guests so when she breaks down by person you basically looking at less than ten bucks five to ten bucks per person so that may be more appealing and also just the younger view. I think we have to consider a this could be very attractive to the young more gaming minded generations who are paying more attention to gaming and that being kind of a staple of their youth and their upbringing. Maybe this will be more appealing to them. One film to watch shows one circle back to movies in the movie. Business one film to watch as a bit of a test case though to see if folks are actually ready to head back to the movies. We'll be marvel's black widow starring scarlett johansson. Which is expected to come out on may seventh. That's around two months. After the opening of the new york cinemas and according to morning console they were saying thirty percent of folks would be comfortable returning to the movies within three months which would be in that window so we'll see how that maybe does which might be bit of a bellwether. That's what we got time for for The first half of our show. It's time now for the halftime report. We summarize the key takeaways from the lead story and seconds before in other news in the second. Half of the show. Ross will start with you and then go straight does more what your takeaways going so my takeaways that digital out of home was easier to turn off during the pandemic but once people start actually visiting all these retail sites that we've talked about michelle easier to turn on when at dollars come back might take away. Here's that reflects the trend for the most far going on over advertising traditionalist Much rate everyone In digital expect to accelerate faster reach new heights at greater speed than pre pandemic. It just had a weird year in two thousand twenty drop hit as much because it's ran new category for them in is still rolling itself out but twenty twenty to see that turnaround in detroit. Really take up the big chunk of traditional going forward now so we got time for the lead story time now for in other news as quick wide from our sponsor new star. 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The entire events will be held at lucas oil stadium in downtown indianapolis in an attempt to replicate last year's nba playoff bubble which saw not a single case. The women's events will be hosted. At the alamo. Dome stadium in san antonio march madness is a big deal for a lot of fans but also advertisers. The tournament generated estimated nine hundred and ten million dollars in national ad revenue in two thousand nineteen. Cbs and warnermedia according to kantar. Now what'd you make of the tournament. Getting ahead i'll be honest. I'm not that big of a college sports person. But i still like idea that they're doing their own bubble atmospheres this tournaments. It worked out well for the nba. I think it could work out while for them. And while nine hundred million is like a small drop into over advertising market certainly bickford these companies in it should help generate some more tv ad revenue. Enjoying tony one for some of these companies and it sounds good to me. I'll definitely be watching some of the higher hype games. I think duke's already but there's still should be some good games in yes. There was some concern over the potential of top teams in the tournament. This year when that could affect viewership kentucky as well could miss the tournament in the same year for the first time in forty. five years However maybe some that concerns overblown about some of the top teams not being there affecting viewership because tundra and cbs are pretty much. Sold out the inventory for the tournaments. Go twenty four games broadcast on. Cbs will be available in viacom. Cbs's new streaming platform paramount plus when media tunnel. We'll be focusing. Its efforts on march madness live app coverage starting with the selection show on. Cbs live coverage of the sixty seven game event will start this thursday march eighteenth. Cbs tbs tnt and true tv with all games being streams on ncwa march madness live. The finals will be monday. April fifth nine. Pm eastern cbs. Story to as alex silverman of morning console reports. Most americans are still largely uncomfortable attending sporting events a year after the pandemic halted them twenty two percent of us adults and twenty seven percents of sports fans would be open to attending a sporting event. Right now they're awesome pretty strong differences of opinion here people with higher incomes over one hundred thousand dollars worth twice as likely to attend as people making less than fifty thousand dollars thirty two percents eighteen percent republicans twice as likely to attend us as democrats. The fifteen millennials twice as likely as boomers thirty two fifteen americans who feel safe at an indoor event was twenty two percent outdoor thirty two percents and people more likely to attend limited capacity events as well as more. Would you make this research. I just want to say if the mba wants to send over some season holder tickets to me for brooklyn nets game. I'm happy to see as many positive things you want to keep promoting on every single podcasts. going forward and islam. A market dot com. You police want to send the tickets. Nba seriousness. i think you'll see the people's attitudes are into attending games go up. Vaccinations increase across the country. I think people have been missing attending games. decently for the nfl when they did it for the super bowl at some of the other games and for these indoor events requiring stuff like vaccination and getting people test for covert Prior helps sal. As long as it's not like any kind of big sergio cases after any of these. I think it's positive going forward. The more likely to attend to limited capacity events makes sense tournament march madness. We were just talking about planning to allow limited crowns up to twenty five percents of capacity for all rounds of the men's tournaments and seventeen percent for the women's final four and national championship. I don't know why it's seventeen percent capacity for women and twenty five percents. Maybe because of the makeup of the stadium and his honda. Two separate people I'm not sure anyway story. Three neil mohana of youtube head of products believes americans are leaving behind traditional primetime replacing it with a time that his personal his supporting data is in december. Twenty twenty over one hundred twenty million people in the us streams youtube to that. Tv's according to youtube up from one hundred million in march of last year from say from one hundred one hundred twenty million com score in an advanced tv piece. Notes that over eighty percents of ct reach in the us falls on five streaming services. Netflix youtube amazon prime hulu and disney plus but only two of them sell ads forty percents of awadh supported streaming. Watch time in the. Us happens on youtube. Ross which make youtube viewership on. Tv screens is growing. And they are highlighting it because they want to take a bite out of seventy billion dollar tv industry. however it's notable that youtube does break out. What share of its total viewing happens on tv screens. And when we get that data from external sources collab- tv is still in the minority and most of us are still mobile even though tv is growing. Yeah youtube saying yeah. Most wisconsin is on my about in december over a quarter of logged in youtube. Viewers watched content almost exclusively on the tv. Yeah in terms of watching youtube. Nearly half of boomers watch youtube and over. Eighty percent of younger millennials and gen z people call. That's all the time for this episode. Thank you so much to my guests. Thank you of extra avenue. Thank you ross. Thanks markus thanks to everyone listening. I won't but principal analyst nicole perrin will see you tomorrow for an episode of the behind the as ads platform any mocked. podcast made possible by new star. 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That's that's how professional lightning boy fucking maced invasive. While he sat there and his car active duty in the military. I'm a veteran and got the so was. I would have matters to me. I'm still phase. That was rookie. That was placed on detail like angry veteran because the rookie was all like. I don't know if we should be doing this boss like the whole time. You could tell like the one rookie cop like just. Let's just listen to my partner please. Yeah like yeah. That's why the rookie hasn't been fired. Gutierrez was the guy that also is going to ride the lightning in the same reason. The poor black guy had flagged dashcam. Because that's what you have to do in this country. If you're a smart was america. That was smart the that he also viewed it. Yeah it was definitely a different perspective from his angle. Like knock that. Yeah he kept calm kept a sands up opposite insane. He's been fired and raise reasonably so mr bee's was also trending on youtube. But like we said. Those aren't part of the daily buzz today. That was just separate now. We have a top six hill. You on episode six six. Six number six is a google business trend. Healthcare stocks are trending because american healthcare companies are looking strong after the vaccine also the coin base. Ipo the pats can tell us about in a little bit later. So that was trending number five on twitter. Usher was trending because he's accused of giving strippers what's being called us bucks instead of real money in strippers vegas actually just no hills with his face on. There's no way yeah. yeah tower. Sure dollars worth double u. s. h. They're worth nothing west. Thanks instagram user. Be oh love for sharing the incredible photos of the rush bucks. Apparently he's been handing out at vegas strip clubs. That's like a princess team thing right like the boys got his own money. What do you mean got his own money. But prince akeem actually has had those that was worth. Motor you to say the where's issues money valuable. And what is this t type probably on the dock. Around seven o'clock this is good for one. Fuck with us covering drought top. Yeah usher puck. Go back to us hotel right. Yeah doing real great. Apparently twenty twenty one number four was the nhl playoff contenders beefing up across the board at the trade deadline as taylor hall went to the bruins from the savers. He's goal score. No no if you guys if that rings a bell also the capital's they picked up. Anthony mantha the monta from the red wings so lots of playoff move by the playoff contending teams that playoff matha move the discord. All in a tizzy matha he's He's being he's six five eight six five guy with silky midst. People get excited. Oh there it goes to a playoff gushing over matha in the discord Yeah well i mean he. Hopefully he scores goals. Aps caps caps caps also. Yeah hockey playoffs. Start may eleventh. That's just the update. Their number three Some a sad trend here shooting at a knoxville high school on monday afternoon left one boy dead police officer wounded. Somebody was also detained as well. Not good those are all the details as of the time of taping. When i researched for the buzz so just not good. Another school shooting. Do we know the casualty count is low. I texted my brother-in-law who lives over there. And it's a magnet school with a lot of times magnet. Schools are in bad areas right or just because that's the way they do it like they'd take the smartest kids and they send them to the like the toughest schools to trent and he my brother-in-law's said that they were like other gun related incidents in this school throughout the year but they weren't like wait a school shooting style. They were more school violence style. Do we know if this was like a school shooting or if this was like a school violence he's dangerous. Mind situation while i mean i think it's the same right so there was at least one boy in an officer who were shot a fistfight. There's a in someone having a gun on them and shooting their intended target versus a guy who's like i'm just gonna open up fire on the classroom. Made national news in multiple. A lot of people got shot. So i think it was trees pad. Are you saying that the the magnet schools are. they're they're just. They're smart kids that get sent to like inner city rough schools or or smart kids that went to a smart school. No no a lotta times they. They put the magnet program specifically at the toughest schools in the district. I went to a magnet school now much square forest edges a magnet school. But that's a smart kid school. it's a magnet school as the programs. The school half of the school is public and half of the school is like a gt program that's in the in the u. Bingo with everyone but have your gt program and you have your public. School program is to toughen a month. That's why they sent him to the toughest toughened up. Not confusing at all right yeah. It's not a trend. It's been going on for like forty years. I'm just saying like most times go find the magnet. School in your district is probably the most difficult school in terms of rhyme toughness. Well not where we grew up. Tom's geno forest edge. While i mean that was okay. One magnet school. That's okay because everyone marked plus violent plus. Let's let's move on from this. Plus violent protests have erupted following a policewoman in brooklyn center minnesota. She killed a dante right with their handgun during a traffic stop on sunday. Where according to the mayor she meant to pull out her taser pretty huge mistake. Lots of people very upset about the violence she taser. Taser taser while holding a handgun. Then shot him tasers. Have the fucking like yellow tips on them like it's they make them purposely. You know able you're able to remember. This is a taser. Because it's got a fucking like you know yellow thing on the end of it right. I mean isn't that the way it's fucking sherman shirt. You're supposed to be able to tell the difference. One of two things is going on here. Either she actually thought it was a tasers and she had no business whatsoever being on the fours. The moment probably. That's that's pretty much or she intended to kill this person. Should i shot it afterwards. Everything and said led to the first part and and i. It's it's horrible. It's also not very good timing with the chauvin trial going on nearby. But i wish they tried to sequester the jury that defense that didn't work Because of the shooting and there's like riots now going on because the train and like in violence rubber bullets being shot just horrible scene but there is one funny joke. That was said about it. That i saw this lady doing this. It's like it was like a scene auto reno nine one taser taser. Tasers shoots him and then she's like holy shit. I shot him and does it did seem like a scene from on which i've been watching a lot recently so badly real life though guy died and it's a sad trend to see so frequently in the buzz right now all of this violence that we've had the last. That was a major six six. Six top. Six months at sucked Yeah well the. We got two more trends though. The bat number two trending everywhere. Julian edelman was dropped by the patriots because of quote unquote failed physical. Then he announced he's retiring from football. I'm thinking presumably to unretire and then go to tampa bay. What do you guys think. no. I don't think so. You think it's just over for good eddie. I don't think they need them at temple. Godfrey and mike evans don't can join a magnet school for very tired players for old slot receivers with nine at schools. Paddock at it. So he didn't get in but there's a callback earlier in the show has nothing to do with you attending forced us now. Is this now. A thing about mark went to a smarter privates magazine earlier. Show you missing. That's got a real problem with what happened. Nothing patches goofing wasted. Talent wasted talent over here too. I'm not casting the wasted talent stones in a waste on house. Look okay. i'm kidding. I'm kidding just calling back. I'm doing a little call back to the show earlier tonight with your dick very different While sounds like this is a this is a hot episode. You should check out the high of our the pop. The clutch tear patriots. Dot com slash. Iheart factor okay and so julian adamant quick aside. Tb twelve method update. I am now consuming electrolytes in my waters. I have been dropping them. Take creators supposed to your powder or dropper a dropper a dropper or drops and i i mean basically. I'm not doing anything else in the tb twelve method. I've taking it one piece at a time very slowly but i like the electrolytes guys just wanted to let you okay. Because i the reason. I ask because i've powder electrolyte in the house and it tastes. Really bad overpowers the drink. Just tastes like Metal water mine taste like fruit punch like a like. A ferry. ejaculated exploded now. Mine's not that much. Pretty sounds pretty. Good varies jisr. Taste like fruit punch than Get me on my knees me a bunch of fairs. Not good from. Send me to forest magical. I love fruit punch. You got a little net catch. That does sound that does sound delicious. Also good point the other electrolyte drink. I'm drinking his body armor. It's yeah fruit punch delicious little inside baseball. Your boy baker mayfield. Rumor has it that he's he just did another commercial for that very same water that you're talking about well. I really the comes out. In a couple of weeks he's He's getting more commercial deals. That's nice i guess. He had a pretty good season last year. He turned on. He's allowed number one trend for daily buzz today. The most google thing of yesterday was macaulay. Culkin and brenda song are having a baby named dakota song kokin and Congrats congrats happy couple. Dse dnc yelich. The shoes it's with a cigarette. I think so the. Sec is that the shoe store. W w what's dsc discoveries on deasy to kota song kokin sex of the baby and also it's one of those names or it could be so well you wouldn't know. Yeah i guess you read the sex. Thanks for saying it correctly. Will you almost caught me in mine. Not the gender but the sex because that's what we know up but it's a girl. Yeah i have no idea if this was yeah so anyhow. That's dollar shave club. Can't report all of that dollar shave. And that's the daily buzz all right. Oh yeah bubba. What's the one that one last thing before we move on. I was just checking today's observances. I know you well. It's okay no you left it offer reason. Today's observance the main one that stuck out to be as national be kind to lawyers day. Saw any comments that you guys have right now. I don't that holiday. Yeah kind of lorries fucking bills. I pay that they send me right. But you're not a lawyer yet but true shit i wo- cab if you're listening. I know you have a great day. Buddy. that's my for all of us. Okay all right all right. Why is that day exists. Why lawyers are going to make a day to say. Hey be nice. Just look like like like pat was for saying they do nothing but submit huge invoices to you big stupid. You're lucky that i didn't know it was Be nice allergic. So i would have grabbed the clip from shawshank. Where he's about to throw them off the roof and he goes no lawyers. Take all the money he goes. You bet your bathroom washing you guys told stories about being locked up though i mean how many without lawyers how many we all would be on the streets today at a need lawyers. I mean public defender. Just needed a suit into apologize. Not a you need lawyers really open. I need a lawyer for that one story. Evan i still. I still have one right now. Seem seem on friday the on time in criminal court. I've just had to beg forgiveness to the judge. Yeah i just have to link dress up in a suit and pretend like i'm not going to drink again next time next time. I'll remember this next time. You guys need me that we were rudy on international lawyers. You know he'd fuck until you whatever lame ass lert tells you anyway if you try to ask them anything they're like well. That's not the type law practice okay. True that happens all the fucking whatever man so he knows a guy. I call a firefighter and be like oh man i can't out. I can't put on a house. I don't know yeah. I'm an apartment fire guy only pets and their that stinks slowly. Barbie your guys on wednesday coin base which is the largest. Us crypto currency exchange is scheduled to have a direct listing on the nasdaq stock exchange. That's an estimated value of between sixty eight and one hundred billion people are estimating it'll list at and Experts are thinking this is going to lead to a boom of crypto investors entering the market Yeah on monday. Bitcoin was trading at about sixty thousand. Till it's fucking go right yet. I don't see how this can't end in bitcoin going up. It might be for a short period of time. But it's going to be all the rage wednesday. It's gonna be the biggest news thing. That coin base is gone public or did their initial listing fucked me now already trending this one's so if you've got your cash i'd get in there now it's probably gonna be for all cryptos in my opinion is just going to bring a bunch of other idiots in the market so make their money. You know what i'm saying. Is they throw money. Should have mercy right. Yeah we're maybe not guys. maybe not. Don't be so fast. Because jesse powell. The ceo of crypto exchange cracking. Which is the fourth-biggest movie. He's a little jelly. I don't know he told. Cnbc in an interview quote. I think there could be some crackdown in terms of crypto. And that's all. That's all i read. That's as far as i got before i stopped reading. Because i'm ready to stick my head a bull's ass and tell you about how good good the t-bone is if you're tommy boy fan. 'cause i'm bullish as hell and i was not going to read the rest of that article because i don't give a shit with this. Say it's all bull baby. Drive drive the price that he was doing a play on his his company cracking. There's going to be a crackdown cracking disney. What he did not interested information. That doesn't benefit me or least my narrative probably the fact that the government could just regulated away anytime. It has something to do with janet yellen but again we'll check in on that next week. Be selling mcadoo. Yeah because i don't know shit. But i do know this month. Bloomberg made the claim that bitcoin will reach a price of four hundred thousand by the end of q. Four twenty twenty one and that is music to my ears. You think they think it's going to four hundred k. That's crazy. I don't know. Wow burke said get in the market. that's that guy. One american samoa hop in the market. Let's come on in. It's tried to win florida. Almost one florida city. Pay everyone through october and then didn't green bomber guys when you put your mental health and emotional health. I especially during these uncertain. Times as the positive trickle down effect of making everyone everyone else in your life better and i know that i'm real asshole when my mental health is not good and when my mental health is good it makes my relationship stronger. It makes my self worth better and these are just a few reasons. Why working with a therapist to Finally prioritize my mental health has truly changed my life for the better across the board. I go to therapy guys to it. 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Jessica radcliffe town during a cold. Lockdown has announced his split with. Jessica sucks out of the announced. It was there was there. Was there probably grant announcement. The sky is a lot of grants just to recap this right. He he bought the jetski like bad day right. Yeah backpacking yeah shopping. He had hit a hike like ten miles to get to the location and then it was like a twelve hour journey total but he's spent five hours on on a jet ski saw. He's like a salmon. this is this is after exactly. He's like a seven taking a yearly journey to me. This is after jessica. Said she would marry him while he was in jail this past december because of romantic and turns out guys. They can't stand each other This after mclaughlin took a trip so daring to see his love that the coast guard search for him all day because conditions were so local fishermen were scared to go out and he couldn't swim and he made it of to her of course with ten minutes left of fuel apparently so after that the coast guard kept searching for me but they didn't even care about the cove lockdowns. They just wanted to make sure he wasn't dead phone instead of he lost his jet ski trailer with no note or anything like that. Yeah we can sit down. He's imagine how many dogs waves he was landing on just like gooch. I on that fucking hard ass jets cake in the middle in the middle. I don't think he felt the thing. He was just so romantic one. Track mind in the zone. Gotta get to jessica radcliffe. No turns out there both justice psychopaths mcglaughlin put that on full display with this whole trip. You know that was like pretty that he's a psychopath. Trip was that was just. That was his announcement. He didn't hide it But jessica radcliffe showed her true colors recently when her and her thirty three year. Old female friends who are both described as unemployed drove home or rot joe over to a rival woman's house and beat the shit out of her her own home while she screamed for her roommate to protect children from the psychopaths beating her wife. Yes she just straight up rolled up like on this other woman. She referred to her as a rival. Peter two inches to pulp with with their friend. Yeah or other female. From if i remember correctly the the guy he was on like a painting gig on the isle of man he was like a carpenter or a roofer or something. Yeah he was a visitor. He's into girl. This is unrelated. It seems like she just went and took care of business. So i understand but i did a little research on the isle of man. It is like it's it's completely isolated. Like like he. She wrote about a lady another lady. Who is in the isle of man. Oh yeah in top hat. Orion orion were were travels fast. Jesus christ you think it's related mark. You think you think. I'm not saying i'm just saying these carpenter got around both houses and she had to take our business i. It could be a a possibility or could have been jessica's new boyfriend this other girl screwing around with radcliffe by the way kicked and beat the woman's face then drug her up perron staircase by her hair causing facial burns on her face and forehead amongst several other injuries. So they really put the beat down this woman. Ironically radcliffe was not only charged with assault with actual bodily harm those the because there was actual bodily harm but she also got a charge for ignoring cova lockdown procedures. Just like her boded received only four months ago so they were talking. Shit maybe they both got the lockdown charges. Who knows maybe they'll get back together. Word is radcliffe dumped mcglaughlin. When he failed to get i love men residency status and as you can probably tell. These two psychos can't do long distance. They need they need intense. Physical contact got she. She can't go more than a few days that's no. She's getting her hands on a rival. She needs to be hugged passionate woman burden. Yeah if you're woman starts describing her rivals. It's time to get it's time to go. Yeah that's the woman that we did a story that ran down her rival with a car. The grandma and the he say you handle beef with your rivals. If you hear someone saying. I'm going to meet my rival. That's last time you'll ever see settle score. Yes so subtle. Score iraq with my rival roger federer rivals deuce right now. It's tied anyways. Tough luck for them. Maybe they'll get. Maybe they'll get together. But i think that the two of them are just gonna ruin other people's relationships when they get with those other people and fellas at least they probably look at in. 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College students i assume hopefully are getting new jobs to pay for their living and education costs. And it's probably not what their moms and certainly not their dad's had in mind So you guys you see with all the covid lockdowns closing bars and restaurants hospitality jobs that are normally filled with college. Kids no longer available. So what's a girl to do right. Well show some skin on only fans you know she's to do you know what she's gonna do. She's got she's got to do ask me again. What's so what's solo skin. That's right show some skin on onlyfans That seems to be the answer. So now that hot girl in your shakespeare one class who you always wanted to see in her knickers well might just be bearing at all on onlyfans which is good for you. But it's it's not just only fans many irks she wants to get. Shakespeare got nice picture if he wants to throw it up and get us all horny but it's not just there you go Also turning to that. It is a picture and a half of that naughty librarian. She's studying many are also turning to full on porn so many students in fact that there are talks of a prostitution union for these students to join and in fact according to one article the english collective of prostitutes or the reports that its helpline has seen a one third to increase in two thousand twenty one calls from students who joined the porn and onlyfans movement as many as eight new inquiries. Day from girls. You know checking on it. The cpa exists cpi english collective of prostitutes. This accents yeah go ahead. I was saying getting called a scab for breaking lines of prostitution has to be the worst getting called a scab possible right like it's one thing to go you scab. You're going to go fill in at the factory into different things. Us scab hooker right. That's right that look. I mean like businesses. Yes difference gabi outlines a lot of work. I think business is business like you're a sore. If your take some time off it's going to be filled with some other people doing it some other ways but this also makes sense to me the only time in my life where i'd like been like hang out. People i know had done porn for a fact it was in college. Yeah so yeah. What's the girl to do right. Laura watson a spokesman for the says quote we have seen a significant increase in students. Going into prostitution as tuition fees of increase watson also said with this new influx in girls. The number of harassment cases has also skyrocketed quote. We've been dealing with stalking and harassment cases specifically related to this where people say clients are persistently getting in touch with them. Some women have had their contents stolen and reposted somewhere else. This is a problem. This is serious problem this. You're getting what you wanted you pieces of shit and you're ruining like you wouldn't have seen these women naked period and now you're getting to see them naked and that's not enough for you you. You've got a stock them but maybe they need to start like what do you think they'll be like an online only fans pimp service where pimp but like like security security team where they just like you. Can you keep talking a big problem across. Its number that. Remember the woman with the cop and they doing the all. The women were telling the stories about called in stockton england. If you're making tons of stacks cheese on the only fans you might have to pay for some security. These psychos are not gonna stop probably. Yeah i mean. I don't know what you've got to figure out how to not know the second oldest profession as stalking the it's like prostitution stalking three chicken and egg. Look i right exactly. I mean somebody. Somebody's students are making ten k. A month only fans and paying off their you know forty thousand dollars student loan pretty quickly. So that's pretty popular over there right now. Moving onto other uk news. The world's biggest rabbit in the world. Here's a picture that's only darius he's been stolen from his home in washer Uk this fucking rabbit with all with what like the thing that moves the ever given. Big rabbit is is darius. He's fifty one inches long. He's a continental giant rabbit. He was awarded the largest of its breed by the guinness folks back in two thousand ten and his owner net edwards. Who was in. That photo has offered a nearly fourteen hundred dollar reward for the safe return of the giant rabbit and wants whomever took him to know these too old to breed. Now if that's what their plan was but not too old to feed a family of four days. That's for sure last killed throughout look for the biggest house imaginable. To cause a huge everyone will be able to see that. That's the giant rabbit like yeah. He's enormous like huge. Yeah he's the size of a fucking labrador power. Talk about the mark of the beast right at rabbit. Did they say what. He weighed No i didn't see what he way. But he's fifty one inches long It looks like it. Looks like he weighs a good. You know forty fifty pounds way than that could be doing reasonable. She's holding them like that. So i don't think he's that also she's putting them towards the camera so it's a little bit of a sixty pound we'll i. I brought up to west before this. That i know about another continental rabid. That's famous on the wed. They're more fluffy than they are like. Wait than anything. So they're really like anywhere between fifteen and forty pounds or something like that when they're full grown their big ass fuckers and they move like nothing else they can move like a regular ravage fast and hopper insane. Yeah you gotta see videos and these guys are crazy. They need to get that thing in the combine. Big rabbit. Lots of meat on the thing and finally speaking of rabbits this next couple from the uk. must bang like rabbits because they had something very strange happened to them as a result of their constant humping see rebecca roberts and her husband of wiltshire england. We're having some trouble. Getting pregnant happens to a lot of folks. So they turn to fertility drugs and when they finally broke through and got pregnant and seemed like a miracle right in fact they didn't believe the at home pregnancy test until they went in for their first ultrasound and heard the heartbeat and of course they were joyous it was it was finally real right but that joy turns horror when at their twelve week ultrasound. The sinaga for heard something strange. Another fucking heartbeat in there. Oh yeah yeah these drugs. Those fertility drugs oftentimes leads to like twins or multiple. Like i think like the case. Eight or whatever facility drugs right. Yeah so the village voice yeah. They caused more eggs to drop is supposed to drop it like you're on the drugs that like the two extra or multiple extra bucks. Yeah yasser bucks falling all the author. Exactly they play the numbers game. It's like then you end up with like a bunch like second third and fourth place sperms getting their prize. You know what i mean. That's that's yeah you don't want that. I guarantee that with multiple. You can always identify who who had the first play sperm. There's there's a few kids with real thick glasses in the In the kate plus eight multiples. You know rank them. From i i just give them like a football suit. Each have tossed like a baseball. You can tell you can rank like which kid got the first one. Yeah yeah yeah participation for move your apparent and you had like a quintuplet set and then you just did a power rankings and you left it like on bridge all the time and so they're always competing with each other up and down. Give them earth gun and aim at a target. You can tell pretty quickly with no practice. Who is the but this is different guy. So the the scenographer asked a couple of they were where they were expecting. Twins to which the man was like Like check that shit again and sure enough there were two heartbeats this couple had actually gotten pregnant again while pregnant with their first baby. So it's something called super fast and it's extremely rare thing to happen less than less than ten cases ever so. The other baby was three weeks behind the original baby. So they will they will. What happened was it's yeah. That's why the one smaller in the picture. According to article ordinal ordinarily hormonal and physical changes during pregnancy prevent another conception from occurring as the doctor said quote instead of stopping ovulation. She released another egg about three or four weeks after the first one. So when fertility drugs. It's like at the same time but this came four weeks later and the eggs somehow got a fertilized implant mile and bastard next door was still just. Oh yeah. he didn't give her a break. He's gotta pay for that one you. You can't be expected to have to pay for that one. I don't know maybe liable for that. Second freakshow one. He's still fucking hunter with no reckless. Abandon no this is clear there. I mean you can pay for it if he wants to. But you shouldn't have to ten bases one seven ten genes technically. This is like the opposite of six year ending on a miracle right. That's true it's a miracle but that's a great way to end it. Sure we're breaking breaking the curse to me. It'd be the devil. But i guess you know the devil. The devil has the guy one kill. Maybe that second kid. I hate to speak ill of of a baby but you know yeah my lesson a serial killer so what what happened mark. They were born at the same time but so the younger one. The bill Stopped working so they had to do an emergency. C section so they were born a little premature on september seventeenth noah came first weighing four pounds ten ounces and then his younger sister rosalie ming two pounds. Seven ounces do. They were pretty small. This is like this is again like cool fucking so like the the normal one. The one that was supposed to be here right would fucking came out normal but then his little sister whatever had dragged him down with a faulty umbilical cord and he had to get out premature. Like you'd be pissed. He's never going to reach his full his full height potential ever. He's going to be like really thin. And bird chested his whole life. He's sick all the time well dark. I'm kidding these are myths. These are these are wives tales about previous. They're they're fun they're fine. Their knuckles survived and Once one smaller than the other for sure that's good. Yeah yeah it'll be it'll be fine. I guess six six. That's going to do it for factor Have to pay for this one. I mean doc. Back near period one in ten said it was impossible. All right anything else won't keep harping on until you start trying to end it. Yeah that's for heart factor. Thank you listening to check out the summer shirts right behind me. Check it out on the store. They're fantastic please. Support the boys Support our sponsors. That always really helps scare yourself in some therapy. If you think about killing your lawyer and she got she got through that show. You might need wait on real quick bubba happy. Happy be nice lawyer's day. Oh my god thank you so much. I had no idea you guys knew. Oh that's just so nice. That's just so hard to make sure that you do. We really appreciate your nearly lawyering expertise. That'd be three hundred dollars. Well actually is going to say that good deal. Thank you very much all right guys. Have a great fucking day leader yeah.

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Halloween Ghosts at Hampton Court Palace

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Halloween Ghosts at Hampton Court Palace

"Hello this is Jonah and I've come to Hampton Court palace by the River Thames to get into the mood for Halloween Hampton Court Palace belonged to England's King Henry v Eight in the sixteenth century and as you may know he had six a wonderful I'm excited visit teeth or rotting in his mouth and courtier said before you heard him coming along the corridor Odia you could smell him I can testify to working here in the day and a lot of strange unexplained and frankly scary things do packed with history and I can well imagine a few ghosts I'm going to be walking around the state apartments with Sheila who leads the ghost tours at Hampton court a young people like music closed dancing and in fact she made Henry the eighth feel young again but Henry was far from the Sheila's kindly agreed to tell me the spookiest stories of the palace so Sheila thank you very much for agreeing to show me around this wonderful palace Mus galleries where he would basically walk from his private apartment alone here and you see we've got two doors to either side happen a wonderful that's exactly what I want to hear where will you take us I well I think we should start in the famous Tudor haunted gallery off the wall these doors lead to Henry the eighth and his queen whoever she was at the time their private praying rooms the top of the chapel the ground floor was that he just preferred to be alone while he said his devotion so people knew every which is man that you see in that painting just to your right hand side Henry had a waste of fifty one inches he was grossly fat most Jason Faith residents looks like a wonderful place to live but can be very scary there lots of ghosts stores here attributed to Hampton Court Palace and yes morning when Henry was at Hampton court where he was going to be an even one eat broken away from the Catholic church he still said his prayers in here every morning so how does Katherine Howard fit into that are good question now Catherine Howard was Henry Gates fifth wife and by the time she married the the chapel and Henry used to say most of his devotions in this private room next to where I'm standing and he very rarely went down into the body eighty five he couldn't do as much exercise he had an ulcer on his lake and all the sort of medical conditions slowed the king eighty who the done some great service for the crown and they could live here rent free life and they became known as where to most of the stories come from will most of the stories Jonah come from our grace-and-favour residents they were special people that lived here from seventeen six being the king was about fifty years of age Catherine was eighteen she was basis she was pretty she liked all the things that why did he let himself go so much and he was fifty he was fifty years of age well he'd always been quite healthy but he had a fall from his horse when he was twenty he ate a lot because he could afford it yet he partied and that was the price he paid thank you for that why is Katherine so in the famous gallery is quite dark and it's famous painting that must be Henry the eighth over here sheet of what does this mean all this is one of Henry's face friends before she married the king and his she'd probably been honest and told the king he would have still married but she kept this secret associated with this gallery right it was fifteen forty one and Henry and Catherine had been married for six months they were here at Hampton court to St he was old he was smelly he was no fun she didn't want to have children with him in fact he repulsed her she'd started a friendship with a gentleman at court a man called Thomas culpeper and they will round about the same age and friendship turned to love now catherine sat down and she made the biggest mistake of her life she wrote Colpepper a letter colpepper dancing playing cards giggling having fun like young people do and soon evitable happened ace but when he did the truth bore upon him and he cried like a baby and he was very angry genuinely loved her so he jen aside heard her please do you think he was gonNA open that door well I always assume that love with prevail but what happened they find out I mean how do the king find out when he found out later by chance because Catherine was here at Hampton court but what Henry didn't know was the over and celebrate Christmas but what Henry didn't know was this lovely queen of his had secret past she had two boys rooms what kind of interogations asking them questions really not so much interrogation but torture to extract the truth from them did they tell the truth didn't matter to Henry whether they told the truth or not these allegations had come to light Aspen Normal Henry was on the other side saying his morning devotions and when Catherine got here she gently knocked on I denounced at all it's a pack of lies in fact he left the letter on his desk in his private apartments and did not open it for two days she had to have a plan and legend has it that while she was under house arrest one morning she managed to escape the attention of move while investigations to these allegations were going on courtiers came to tell Henry that indeed his wife had had to housed the more desperate the poor girl became until after a minute or two she was crying begging the Henry to come out he never did the time the king was in his apartments later with his ill health a lot of time Catherine was young she wanted fun and she spent her time with and they were probably guilty sushila how did the story play out in the end will catharine with young she did not want to die. Ron System and Henry Mannix hold off to the famous tower of London the interogations Catherine was held in her please could you come out I do need to speak to you you see she had to be polite she was fighting for her life Henry on the other new in love and now he gave orders that Catherine beheld under house arrest which meant Yeomen of the guard on her door so they would watch her every in his letter it said how much she loved him and how much he wished she was his wife and how much she regretted marrying the king the boyfriend before she married Francis Theorem who was a cousin of hers and Henry Mannix a music teacher so colpepper door and probably said something like Henry it's your wife it's Catherine and to keep on praying to God maybe praying that if he married a gain he would find the right one however the more that does state owed the dead of night of hearing the earthly shrieks and screams of a gyro where we're running along this guy permissions do not like change and although strange things still happen in this gallery the ghostly form of young Catherine Howard had in was they were all true but he thought he had finally found the right wife for him so henry resolved to keep the door closed she put up a fight she did not want to go she knew if she didn't see Henry Her fate would be sealed or a tragedy does her ghost with Thomas culpeper they all been hung drawn courted and their heads would stay on traitor's gate for three years Harry Unforgiving Yeomen of the Guard solway she was and they dragged her literally kicking and screaming back to her apartment gods she tip toed down this famous gallery and when she got to the store just to my left hand side it was closed the tools of just opened so we've just Henry was a broken man he'd seen that letter and all the detestable things that she'd written about him and the funny thing was and the sad yea Geeta that was a fascinating and spooky story thank you very much I've become a degree colder actually listening to that site met her is three heads on spikes front system Henry Mannix and in the middle her beloved ellery glimpses of the young queen in ghostly form or cold or seen regularly up until nineteen hundred when this do it was deemed that Catherine Howard after thorough investigations was guilty of adultery having other boyfriends and Tree Korea was painted it was spruced up and it was open to our day visitors now it's often said that ghosts or is not been seen since should I tell you the conclusion to the tail yes please yes now February time fifteen forty two revealed later but for now I'm GonNa tell you a little story fifteen thirty seven the twelfth of October Henry the cernan Eh Prince Edward is born here at Hampton court but very very sadly ten days later Jane Seymour his mother is dead and Civil Penn who was going to be his nursemaid now has an even bigger task on our hands she's going to become like a mother to misselling later this was all in the lateran giveaway isn't it what a silly goal she was an inevitably the letter was found and taken to the king who great hives of easement the Tudor toilet block to everybody and it was highly sophisticated very clean and modern in court it and so did young Queen Elizabeth but young Queen Elizabeth being young strong and robust survive but simple part of it used to belong to a lady called simple pen who was henry the eighth son Prince Edwards nursemaid and the other half was the so to deter anyone else from crossing swords or doing anything that would upset His Majesty King Henry Doc if you seen her ghost I haven't personally but many grace-and-favour residents particularly in the Victorian period of toll I think quite a few people caught smallpox here but only sipple Penn died Elizabeth I was very very ill then being in her late seventies an old lady at that time succumbed to the disease and she died how many did it spread to don't worry enjoying their free accommodation at Hampton court one night there was a terrific storm thunder roared and light okay and are we on the outside one of the apartments yes apartment thirty nine and this is very very famous for lots of reasons red brick gateway there this is where visitors to the palace come in a free day on it would have been the entrance that King Henry the eighth would abuse poke grave and everything was quiet here on the western front until the mid reign of Queen Victoria when there was a family you experience some of the joys of Hampton court but there was an outbreak of smallpox smallpox. What did that mean well smaller for those days are wonderful that's what I like so which ghost is associated with this apartment sipple pen she's often called the grey lady as well and all will be him as well now long after Henry the Eighth Cer- died and the young prince unfortunately sipple pen was still here the it was fifteen sixty two in the reign of Henry's daughter Elizabeth the first the whole court were here and the symbols bones were all sucked up from her grade and scattered around the churchyard yeah is horrific was buried up the road in Hampton will you can still see Ho grave today now with stone likeness of who was carved and put on top earning crashed and the grave simple pen was struck. Saint Mary's Church and they say that the lightning penetrated so deep into the ground the palace and I'm standing outside Sheila Sheila exactly where all we will what is this spot cold this is the famous waste gate you see the lovely season and one very bleak morning she was road up to that famous traded his gate the Tower of London and when she got there a horrific lives two of whom unbelievable and Catherine Howard were executed just up the river from here at the Tower of London this is a really beautiful palace folks very much like chicken pox today but much worse was a killer in Cuba time so this was very very dangerous now civil pen Queen Elizabeth started the fashion wearing white makeup on her face to triumph where to go come in Civil Penne Pasta way she hold the pants and be family who lived in those rooms that were once used by simple pen now the Ponson be family with their service it but not just standing here it is very atmospheric play it really is very very special but she recovered obviously she recovered but her face was left with those horrible pop marks on like the chicken pox yet and that twice but there's more although the bones of simple were reburied and taken inside the church to a crypt it seems after that time the old lady started to wonder she started to wonder so where does she wonder is getting spooky no she wanted back here to hunt one of Henry's courtyards and rebuilt in a new style a style called barrack but because William didn't have money to knock down of Henry's buildings as you can see where we are standing there's a false wall and we're looking straight at some of the two buildings she was in her seventies she was a widow. Her husband had been a decorated military hero that's how she got her rent-free accommodation and in the mid Victorian period on the second floor there was a suite of apartments for a lady called Lady Hilda Yard seen to this day now the West Gate there the entrance to Hampton Court Palace soldiers in the Victorian period that were billeted here used to stand outside those gates at night and look after the security of the grace-and-favour residents however many soldiers about we've got the newer part of the palace this new apart was built between sixteen eighty nine and seventeen hundred for king and queen called in her the pumps and be servants and the family were feeling pretty shaken by these events and the gray lady continues to be to them but they didn't like Henry old to two buildings they were ugly they wanted something modern like the king of France so they knocked down Louis seemed to love and it's about two skeletons that were found near the new apart the Palace Fountain court that was built bullpen spinning wheel as she used to spin the on the young prince would close now that noise continued in these apartments until rope lem every night with the setting of the sun her and her servants would here scratching sound that seemed to come from the wooden because night after night in the apartments a wording sound could be heard and we know that the wording sound was probably the noises stopped after that they did not they continued sightings of civil pen or the gray lady were now seen in the there were investigations done and behind a false wall that was found a perfectly preserved to the room complete with speed I that would be a spooky is this we have many many stories but I'm GonNa tell you a story now that all the children who visit the strange men would appear they were dressed in ragged clothes and they would speak to each other in mumbling tones nobody so we've come to different parts of the palace known dumb it looks very different yes you'll correct in the courtyard behind. US earning will the spinning wheel was taken away the room was opened up and the Ponson be family side a sigh of relief or just going to say and with virtually shaking to its very foundations and then just as I thought things could get no more scary too William the third and Mary the second they were King and Queen of England by one hundred fifty years after King Henry died they came here the palace belonged understood what they were saying but night after night the strange things would happen in that apartment and Lady Hilda Yard lost many and now lady Hilda Yard lift here on our own but was about five or six thousand that looked after her but lady Hilda Yard had melling in their old two apartments as the night wore on these sounds would gain in intensity until the little apartment instigate is possible for Phantom or a ghost anything is possible that's wonderful thank you I love that what could we possibly hear next the apartment is always think I just saw the gray lady is also thing I did the gray lady was last seen in two thousand and five so you might have seen The two strange men and there were workman in this area. If you'd like to follow me I will tell you what happened strain cover some of the surrounding tiles and to lay new drainage pipes they'd only doug about two feet down on the work it's just to the right of us and you are correct withstood around a drain cover and there is a reason now two weeks in sixty nine one thousand nine and seventeen hundred so if you'd like to follow me will make hallway there now soft lady Hilda yards last letter to the royal household there were workman in this area the purpose of being here was to take the perfectly preserved human skeletons wow and we're standing above them right now what happened skeletons would take they could not believe there is they diamond tools scratch their heads and called for their manager because they'd come across too servants because they would just too frightened to be here now a we call to post when Lady Hilda Yod with last visited so so she'd have noticed that we're standing around a drain cover is there a reason for that is we're backout in Fountain court the new apart the palace they were given a Christian burial and surprise surprise lady Hilda Yard complained no more ooh way they were analyzed and don't forget this was the Victorian periods today we know a lot more but it seems they'd been in their current position branding their post and ran off screaming when they saw the ghost of sipple pen the gray lady walk straight through those clothes occasion but one hundred fifty to two hundred years at the most two skeletons that were identified as males were taken away and we'll put down over those bodies and that's where those two workmen who died stayed until they decided to ah pocketed that money came down here at the dead of night a palace just being built they were gaping holes everywhere cash and wanted the building to be built as quick as possible but he didn't want to spend much money so what happened sub-standard bricks down injuring eleven men and killing to these with the two men we know that the master carpenter was given uh-huh really quickly but it preserves the bones then maybe a day or two later big stones the ones we're standing on now the Christopher wren between sixty eight nine and seventeen hundred for King William and Queen Mary but King William was a little bit short of the it's nice to know ghosts can rest piece lost how did the skeletons get there we don't have a concrete answer but we do have suggested morten not very good materials we used and when the south range just over there too you're right with complete it promptly came tumbling Qahira Hampton court standing in the new courtyard and we do know from all records the this lovely baroque part of the palace was built we are standing through the bodies down a big hole covered them in quick lime which makes the flesh decomposed or disappear I to bit of money to make sure the two men who died were given a Christian burial I put it to you Jonah what if the Mazda Cop and course Hampton court has over one thousand three hundred rooms so plenty of rooms to explore if they were open but they were not now the entrance and the exit before the exhibition closes however ten minutes came and went she did not pass me there were no doors that she could've opened Yourself very difficult to say because people that I know who have seen ghosts especially in the daytime say they are as real is it lady Hilda Yard mazing story well Sheila thank you so much for those very spooky stories you got me spooked out upstairs as well have you ever seen at the exhibition were in closed off from the public so you could look in those four rooms you couldn't venture anywhere else and today yes but at the time I just thought she was a member of the public that's how I'm saying that ghosts can appear very very real amazing thank you well that was me Jonah at Hampton court learning about the fascinating ghosts in history of the palace I will definitely be there's nowhere else she could go she had to pass me to leave I looked everywhere through the exhibition and I never found her she just disappeared again because there is so much more to learn about Henry the eighth and his six wives not to mention other kings and Queens such as William and Mary who built Paul still in the exhibition there was absolutely nobody they're amazing did it spooky out not at the time on reflection the palace it's packed with atmosphere treasures and fascinating nooks and crannies and the gardens and Parkland absolutely stunning as you will me it's only when you go back and think about it that you rationalized yourself and think that couldn't have been anything or anyone else with the same and I close the exhibition about four thirty every afternoon I was doing some cleaning cleaning the desks when out of the corner of my eye thank you so much for telling us some of the spooky stories we've actually ever heard on story Nori and can we all wish you a very happy Halloween the same to all of you thank you very much but it goes but yes I think I have where with the WHO've been I was employed to run an exhibition up in Fountain Court can you see the small little windows Zia it was called servants soldiers and suffragettes and it was about our grace-and-favour history we only had about four rooms all those rooms if you do get a chance to visit Hampton court which I highly recommend try not to get too lost in the famous maze in the meantime and this is aimed at all older listeners if you want to be spooked out even more you can search on Youtube for the skeletal of Hampton Court a film taken by security is currently at the ball was being fitted for a week I haven't seen it yet but a warning if you die of fright don't write in and one evening trumping down now for me Jonah Story Noy DOT com happy Halloween lady in a long black dress with long black hair and to the exhibition realize we look no absolutely Israel's you Jonah now I thought at the corner and she didn't say anything to you she would have had to have passed me to leave she never did after I closed the front door and had a look everywhere to see if she would camera at the palace which shows a mysterious ghostly figure but he saw it and unfortunately all his hair fell out so he why is she could have been one of these goths these people who like to wear black excetera and I did sort of call out to her and say you've got ten minutes to have a look this guy complain to me and once again thank you very much to Sheila who is a State Department water at Hampton Court Palace and a brilliant storyteller yeah guy the take now it's time to is he it took me tweets in court to her apartments now the pumps and be family and their servants started to feel very uneasy and afraid. Kyra I do all those wrath I've got gave you won't like it little rats but tall Obama nominee wiki this creatures you didn't see that way will aw honey It will sound the kids on a sugar. I keep us awake knowing your with you yet is aww slash guys.

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Hagemann-Jaguar + Newman Volvo Wagon

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Hagemann-Jaguar + Newman Volvo Wagon

"You'RE LISTENING TO CASTLE CAR CAST ON PODCAST ONE A. Well, we finally solve V Haeggman Hager Mun Haeggman. Controversy that has never really was controversy. Really come about. Internal conflict, it's internal conflict and we went to went to Leno's garage and took a tour around there get deep into a another Volvo lagging that newman owned and very interesting, very interesting stuff. I will tell you about J. B. Weld diy projects when it get through those. How about a little JBL? Use some of their Super Bond well for well. For Well Yeah you some of that day. That fast stuff. It's not the two parts stuff. It's the superglue stuff drives almost instantly gives you just enough time to kind of position that thing one of his Asian move it a little round and boom done proud to have J.. B. Weld as a sponsor, the great I know the owner hung out with them over at Sima and now every time I need to put something together I. Use J. B.. Weld. And look, it'll work on metal. It'll work on. 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UNFIXED THIS I should walk right ahead to drawer. pull it open got the super well doubt put three drops spun it around a little. Put My thumb into. It came back. Two minutes later right back on right back on the hook and the car. Yeah, all right, so We've got that going on Working on cars it looks like were. GonNa, take the different drummer five ten out, and for the inaugural run out at Laguna Seca. We've gotten together a decent size run group in the be Sedan Department looks like about eighteen twenty is something like that enough to have fun in a bunch of five tens, and and that's a good size group for that track. Because now it's enough to to make kind of fun and you're not gonNA. Get too lonely out there. With similar cars, but not not a lot of traffic like yeah, well, I used to be able to go flat out. It's GonNa be fun. Yeah, I, kind of It's shaping out. It's shaping up like like I was like I thought of it in my mind, you know things. You can figure most things out if you just take kind of a logical trajectory, you know what I mean, even though people will give you false. Information all the time. You're you're. There is a kind of a gravity of what makes sense so when they cancelled the race, which is asinine. It's stupid I mean. Could we're such idiots in California I? Think I think California's are playing. We're just going to ruin everything until everyone just leaves, but anyway. When when they cancelled the race, I was like okay. That's stupid, an unnecessary and then the second one is. But we're doing a drivers appreciation race the week before and I'm like okay well, then all the guys that we're going to run in this run group. Are Just GonNa move it a week before we'll call it a driver's appreciation, race, or whatever we're calling it, but it'll just be this. Be the same group the war. So that'll be fun. Slightly fewer people, and then then it's like well. No, it's just a track day, and we're just treating it like a fun day track day and I'm like. Why is that? Why didn't everyone just everyone who signed up to Monterey historic on the weekend of the fourteenth to just moved it to the week before when they had the prehistoric. So why wouldn't the same guys WanNa? Go race, and also those guys in those beasts dance. They don't want funday track day. They want like pace car, and and they want Then when times they went qualifications and went grid sheets. They won all that Shit. Yeah, and and and so why wouldn't we just do that the week before and so? We're just going to go out there and have fun. Now it's shaping up like that is what we're going. It seems like it's going to be an actual race. Of course, not officially, so some of the guys that are a little whiny are not gonNa do that well. Can Be like hey, man. It's just an exhibition. Those track times don't mean anything gives them an out a love that no. Excuse I. Disagree I. Think Look Everyone's going. Go out there and rice, I of course they should. Anybody who says? I'm not going to do the Monterey historic I. think There's a misnomer in general, just talking. Less about this. I think there's a little misnomer which is. I used to. I when I used to teach boxing ice to tell everyone, there really wasn't any such thing as sparring half speed. Couldn't do it. They just stepped it up immediately you get. One guy gets popped wants, and then he wants to pop the guy back, and now it's just it's kind of on. You know what I mean, and so when people I was talking to last yesterday, and it's like wow, that engines good for the vintage stuff where you're not over revving it. You're not you know pushing that hard, and it's like everyone pushes hard as they can push those fast when when you do a vintage race. I don't care if you're driving five ten or nine, thirty five or equipment you're in vintage Z. Car whatever. When you go around that back turn. And come onto the front of the straightaway at Laguna, Seca. Every car. In every run group that I would run in. That's anywhere in the top half easily. I mean if forty five cars. Thirty of them when they come around that corner. Light up the rear tires get a little a little out of shape, and then just red line it all the way down that that straightaway. They're not some are more skilled than others. Some do better at the end downshifting entering the first turn, but nobody's feathering the throttle down that straightaway. Nobody's not on it immediately like everybody. Everybody who's in front of me? You can see their rear end getting a little thanks. If they have horsepower right back on it, you see it's squat down a little bit, too. Like is now. They're just got both tires planet in the back, and they're just going. Yeah, this thing of like well. It's vintage race. You're kind of feathering at around and you're not pushing the engine to. No they're not as they're not going as long or as fast as professionals or whatever, but everyone everyone in the top twenty's going as hard as they can. You know so when you do anyone who shows up for this race? Especially because we've already separated the people that were you know we now have the hardcore people these are the people that are going. Going to risk cove it and they want to go race like we. We have selected a self selecting group. People want to raise. Those guys are all going to be racing. Yeah is about as hard as they can go, and I've been I've done plenty of beast and stuff at that track with those guys, and they're some of the most aggressive guys. But I like those guys. It's a good group. Everyone's really cool in that group. Yes sure. Anyway. There's a funny i. mean it reminds me Max. A Pat I don't even know where that is, but that that that Group where? Dave stone got off track coming up the coming up after turn five I should figure that shit out on on the way to the corkscrew at the top and just got back on the track. Right next to me. It's just it just shows how those guys are just driving the shit out of those those cars. That was the race where the guy got off. The track came back onto the track and t-bone Alfa Romeo. And, the guy just drilled holes in his door and wired. It shuts went back out there. Again so I guess you re tech the car. I don't think I. WAS GONNA fly? So the Volvo is working in Nice, yeah, tell us about the Volvo that you saw at Leno's. Garage the Leno's garage. Volvo and I don't. How did it start? Leno give you a call. Hey, I don't know everything a wagon over here and Leno. Yeah, Leno sent me a text about got a wagon over here. Come check it out, and then I said. Okay I'll come. Check it out now. I wrote him back and I said. Is The guy selling it, or is he? Just you just want me to come check it out. And then he said he selling it and I said Oh. All right I'll check it out and I think the story is and I. Just have the little dribs and drabs. It's. Over wagon was built for Newman at Volvo. It's got. The, rear wheel drive, which is something I guess they went away from. So, they took A. Ninety nine or ninety eight, or whenever they went away from the rear wheel, or all wheel, or whatever so I think they're offering maybe front wheel drive, and like all wheel drive, maybe which kind of makes sense and they wanted this to be rear wheel drive like a hot rod with me, and so they put this. I sent you a couple of pictures. They put a big. In line six in an with an an little controversy, because Jay was saying twin twin turbo charged with sounded weird to us on this in line configuration. Yeah, and then. And then you were saying well, you kept saying, is it? A twin turbos at a twin turbo kept saying I. It is because that's what Jay said, and it says says. On the valve cover it says Twin charged or something like that, and then you were starting to explain to me that they did a super charger with a turbocharger. Yeah, which seem. Bizarre to me, but interesting, but kind of made sense. Because why would they just have to? Tear but now I know why people do to turbos to get rid of the turbo lag. The put a smaller turbo. And then a bigger line for Max Pat let's see nineteen ninety nine Volvo. Straight. Six engine. Twin charged. And, it also looked pretty beefy. Also Kayla just emailed you some of the photo, so you can put those up. As as well. Now to be clear because you said Leno's Volvo Leno doesn't own own the Volvo right he was filming. Something or somebody brought it over whatever he was working on it. somebody brought it over. He has a guy who knows Volvos pretty well. And I didn't know his shop is open for third party. Customers I didn't see the sign. No. That's right off the freeway. Really not usually shoot that truck. That says not for higher. Yeah. Yeah. It's too bad, and then it's got. It's got the license number on there. And then it's got the stay forty feet away from your smoking. At some point, that's just a guy just wanting to put antisocial stickers on his right all right well I have a duly with a trailer. Why don't why don't I have not for not for higher on their? Yeah, how many times is somebody? Walked up and said Hey, man, can you tell? Can you tell my never nine? We're looking at a picture this engine. Yeah, see twin charged twin charge, which could be twin turbo or turbo super juicy the turbo I see the turbo I. Don't see the super charger belt, but who the hell knows. It's a big valve cover I. don't even know if it's a twin cam. Is it a twin cam? It it's it's it's a it's got the exhaust on the left as you stare at it. It's got the intake on the right. Word should be, and it's got the turbo on the on the left right off the exhaust, and then I can't I can't tell us like a heat shield this that anyway. The story goes. that. They had heard that newman was hot riding Volvo wagons. that he'd he'd thrown in a three zero, two with the Kenneydell super charger for him, and then he did another one for Letterman. I guess and I believe a third one for like whoever ran the charity at the time. Some version of that, and then in some point Volvo said well, we'll do one for you and our at our factory. Now Volvo doesn't do a va at the time or even now. But they did A. Thing looks like a three point. Two looks looks like a pretty beefy. It definitely filled the engine department. It looked like a good size sex and I'm curious to know a little more about it. You know. Curious like what kind of power was making and so I, I don't know I I reach out. Volvo and they're they're doing some digging. Obviously it's been. It's been a while since. Since they made that thing so i? Don't know who who there was documented was at a press thing with. Did they give it to him as their pictures for it, but it it is odd that you and I were talking that every time you google or trying to do any type of search with Paul Newman Volvo only the V eight cars come up. Here on it and build not not this one that was. Built by Volvo presumably gifted to him or something. Yeah, I was riding like straight, six, one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, nine, still just bring up the V. Eight Volvo so I. Don't know if you found out anything about that engine Max Patta it's Volvo made a straight six, then they went to a five. I guess, or maybe they started with a five, and then they went to a six and went back to five. I don't know. I don't know that much about Volvo now. We're going to talk to a Volvo Guy. Yeah San Thankfully. We don't know any. Well. We don't Volvo driving one right now. We'll get somebody from Volvo well that engine Max Fat. What what does it say when you put involve a straight? Six twin twin charged engines. Adding more air helps. Automakers fuel make fuel efficiency standards. Let me. Let me ask in this article and there's no. There's there shouldn't be an article. There should just be that engine that Info. Be Out there, just Volvo. Straight six nine. Everything's done as a narrative these days on the media, so you Kinda have to read the story of how one engine Volturno. That's why he's going through it. Everything is just a narrative now. Chart, you know like the you go through wikipedia. I don't know where to find like the chart. The evolution of engines and stuff everything is just written a book. A fable about the twin charged engine, but if you go what what are you type in Mexican? All right so I've typed in one thousand, nine hundred, Volvo straight six engine twin charged and a Volvo and just doesn't have shit. That pops up three point two liter hundred six pounds open. At two point nine. Does that sound right? Yeah, okay? At two point nine straight six engine, the t six was powered by a de. stroked twin turbocharged version twin turbo. Okay, all right well. There there you go. And that's that's what we're talking about right. Yeah, no, it's still think is super charger on that, so Vogel now still does twin charge, and they combine turbo and super. Charger and I just felt like. Leno said Twin Turbo and. I'm not saying he's wrong. But I'm just saying that term was typically used for the combination turbo and Super Charter now. They may have used that term because that's that brand. Right and they ended up with twin turbos and. We we didn't really see. We saw one turbo in that photo coming right off of the engine. Yeah, but. The. On in the path, but but we didn't see super charger either now, but that could be. A little more hidden. It could be on top of the motor underneath that covers. A. Something more in line. Turbo intake would have to like the to. I think I think you're working hard to get that super charger in there I feel like it's easier. Terms of location I didn't really get in there with the flashlight and bitten in terms of location. That was your first misses. You could take a well. I wasn't I took Leno I took her. Leno does word, but you could hide a smaller turbo charger along the river like along the route. Yes, it much easier than I think you could hide a supercharged i. mean that kind of has to be up front running off the crank right. Yeah, it would have to be some some belt driven. or Small turbocharger and and drop it you know if you look at the exhaust, this kind of a river that kind of winds around the car, and ends up into the ocean, which is out the back, you could take that second turbocharger and put it somewhere along that river you so to speak further down by right Max Patty. Keep reading up on that. Then two point nine is two point nine fine if I say three to Mexico that'll mean two point nine a work. I know a lot but i. don't know everything. It looked like a decent size engine. Is it a waiter about the ninety nine thing to that could? Share of the engine cars from ninety nine. Ninety nine, but we already know that they took some of the drive train from an earlier the engine. Ninety six or something like that is it and is it a twin cam I couldn't. It looked like a big head, but I couldn't tell. Yeah. Is it a twin cam? It's hard I. I've been fooled. It's a matter of fact. Leno. Had A cod had some really crazy stuff out there man? He gave sunny the full works tour. That place he he fired up. I if fired up the first. Fire truck. In in Los Angeles, or ever I think in the United States. To propel itself not. Pulled by Horse Yeah. Driving one front wheel drive. Yeah Oh, really yeah. Massive the thing that's crazy about Leno shop is when you walk around this shop you see. Front, wheel drive vehicles from the teens. UC battery operated in Hybrid. How large from the teens like he'll go! into. New. Electric car from one thousand nine hundred. and. That's the fines that's. Yeah. That's a four CAM. That's a twin came with the four hundred one of my nineteen fourteen. Like. You realize like eat all this stuff we think is kinda modern stuff. Yeah, they just had older versions of it, but. They they had him didn't is fire engine? He turned it into a his motorcycle like pickup truck. He's like Oh, in the old motorcycles breakdown on salary. We put it in the back of the fire truck. He has some. Yes, he has A. he has a fire truck but this this one was like. front wheel drive, but the front wheels. The rubber turned around the wheel. The wheel never moved. Here's gears the wheel and he fired it up. And I was a big scary. Notched out flywheel. Sunny was pointing at a thing they thought was a steam engine, but it was a tractors got tractor they're. Fired up the F-. He fired up that the he's fired up a few things. He had some really cool crazy stuff I mean not that I have to. I don't have to tell you that. He had some cool crazy stuff, but he just walked US around. Talk to Bernard Bernard had a bad accident on the side Hack. Motorcycle Button will did lose his ponytail. Open. Survivor or went flying. Oh, and he he So he's not going to be. At Laguna Seca and the. Haberman Jag. Or Jag Haberman thing Haeggman Jag that drives out with soul. So he he's not driving that car, so you need a car. To drive and. Started kind of talked about Haberman or Haeggman whatever that was Jag. Jag Power Plan on a custom built whatever. and. And Bernard's Bernard's in a good mood because I said. Is that Haberman is that Kinda like lister like they built the thing and they had. Three twenty seven corvette engine Jag engines and here's. here's showing. No bernardus softened in his old age. He went. Yeah. It's kind of kind of same thing because I, said that job eight years ago and Different thing. Different. That's a Haberman and the solicitor. You ask stupid. Like. Pause. It's funny because he was so nice to me is all friendly and then he paused. been watching on Fox good job. Like Oh okay, that's watching, Dr Roger Talking. When I would walk through that place ten years ago, the fucking stack. I don't trust them. Yeah, yeah, yes, he questions has dumped growth about. Haberman listeners yeah. What is this story? Max Fat I I've I've given up on my Volvo engine I'm tired now. Okay, it's a two point nine I don't know it's gotTa. Be Twin! It's just that there are other twin charged engines came out, but that's like in twenty, thirteen and twenty. So that's what the Internet is just full of is has. been used that name for a while. It's like Google Anything Hammy with Dodge and whatever you're. GonNa through mountains of information all right, but it's two point nine well. I think that I only thirteen I wouldn't do. I wouldn't type in twin charge and just right. Twin Turbo charged. Incan. We'll get away from the from the brand. Twin, turbo twin Turbo Volvo, yeah I, but even when you brought it up I. I typed it in at one point I was like Paul Newman, twin Turbo Volvo and ninety nine. I started digging into as much could. Get you going a different direction? Yeah, so no, Newman. I'm not just I'm just not seeing that engine anywhere. That's. On, our friends had Volvo corporate, and and we're GONNA. We're GONNA talk. Sorry, wait acid. Put in Hager men. Jag. It. We don't have Haeggman. Jay Leno's Y- yeah but. I want to know about that company because because Bernard. What's going I said? Are there like listeners interesting I guess their English? I guess they built the some cool. Chassis and then drop some cool power plants in shelby wasn't the first guide to do this right and. Then Hey Gherman. I guess. Bernard was telling me that he built these kind of cars and those kinds of cars like it wasn't just. 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Haberman car company. Have you seen any other ones other than? Leno's now has seen that. That one is a one off it is, but they built other one offs. They did American road race specials from thirty four to seventy. And they were, they had a couple of successful road race specials, but I'm still. There's not a ton of about maybe not a Streetcar Company. Just a racing car chassis company. Yes, this company built these cars and put different powerplants in and I. Think Bernard was telling me that they. PUT A. Three twenty seven vet engine, too, so there were. I N. he said there were local. To so I think what they were doing is what list or was doing probably out England and they were just doing it out here. Is it Haberman? Yes yeah yeah. Yeah sure about that company first off must be guys name. It must be Steve Haberman or something those things for a long time, and he built Bernard's car and then Bernard's car. Sold, Up North I think they sold it at that place fantasy junction. Yeah and which is right right by Pixar? Right at Pixar like across the street when you're walking into Pixar and you look behind, you Kinda, see it over there. When they did cars, all the guys just went over there. I'm Pixar and just stared at all. Those cars. Yeah, which is sort of why they got it. Got It right over there also Also? There's couple of cool cars coming up for sale. We're trying to figure out that mecum thing right I was talking to you the the other day about how they're. They're up for sale, but the auction hasn't started yet may. Be Tenth through eighteenth, overseeing current bids on some of the cars on on the website I. Don't really. Understand how working and When does the bidding end woods officially start? Were those bids come in? Are they like? A. Proxy bids some sort they're like. This is going to be the minimum because people submitted on out and the reason I say no is changed. Yeah, I checked with the Ken Miles. The test meal for the. Gt Three fifty are and. I looked at it, and it was like three hundred grand and two hours later. I talked to you and you said it was five hundred grand somebody's bidding. On that thing, there's also. One of my favorite cars for the first time. I'm not first time very rare. That, the M one pro cars come up for sale, and there's an cool and one pro car that's for sale. GonNa say are am, and I'm not sure that auctions not taking place yet, but I'll be cure. What would your guess be on an m? One pro car with decent history? You know that's that's. That's kind of a tough one I haven't followed the market of one pro cars. We've had many discussions about the art car. And how how those are moving? I, don't you know we have no idea how those are moving? We just know that I'm pissed. Right, yeah, but we've we've. Over over some time I don't know it's been years since we've checked into played, have we? Have you been onto like hammer price to see what the the pro car market is? Now NASA I haven't now. There was an estimate now because I don't really know if there is I'm I'm going to say it's I'm going to say it's knocking on the door of I'm going to go. I'm going to go between seven fifteen million I was going to say about a million bucks, but let me let me see if. If Hammer price has i. don't even know what to look up on hammer price am one yeah. All Bunch of streetcars on there. You could probably do pro car haberman, Max. Max, pattern what you're nothing. There's nothing on Haberman. Other than Leno has one I can't find. What's up with the Internet man I mean. That seems like a cool coal company are small company called Haberman racing, but that's in Maryland. When you said that they alkyl. Maybe it is. Maybe the guy was local and moved. It can be Maryland. Okay let me see with that. Let me. well the M one streetcars by the way, where are our trading in the in the four fifty range right? You know summer hidden five fifty summer a less than that depending on the year, but there there yeah I know feels like a million dollar car. Yeah, they never. It's always a car of like I. Think you've always liked that car. And it's cool. Late seventies early eighties Kinda Kinda interesting vibe and the street hire car kind of misses the mark. This I will tell. Wheels are weird, and and there's no dish, and so that the race car has a center lock and a lot of dish, and it completely changes the entire car. The The the Streetcar Has Weird Rams. No one ever changes those rims. By the way you never see him. Swap out with some BBS, whatever which would completely change that car because it's Kinda unique to the car, but it has a little bit nightrider, too. Bad, but sometimes you have to. You have to keep it the way it is. It's like it's Kinda thing. Well my thing to the identifying marks a tattoo. My thing is I would I would get. I would make a nice set of BBS's for that thing that we're kind of period correct that had a little dish in the back, and a little less than the front, and I would take my stock rams, and I would put them in the garage. And when I showed it or drove it around, I would do it, and then everyone would comment. How much better the car looked. Then they would go, but what about reseller? Whatever it is, it ask questions, and then I'd go walking. Just put the other ones back on. Yeah, got it, but it's so much better this way, and it looks so much better. Yeah! Eight T. O. as well. Yeah, these the Hagen Mayor looks like the produced like kit race cars. That doesn't really said they were smaller scale. Yeah, they're not really doing anything with so they. Maybe we're just a chassis builder and he's. He's using the name Haberman. The way you would say you know the Cunningham race car that was built, you know. What I'm saying like. On on your Z. Car like Oh, which which is the? What's the Cunningham Chassis? It's a county. How well I'll tell you. I'll tell you how you'll find this out Max Pat If, you go to fantasy junction and he go to the website that sold it and then you hit sold. Then, you'll see that car, and then they'll be a story. Right and underneath it will say Ralph Haberman in nineteen, thirty, one moved to Gardena California. The word Haberman isn't anywhere in Fantasy Junction I. Just did a search goto fantasy junction. Go to car sold and. Hit look for that green car. You can I tell you this with the Goddamn search? Oh I think okay, yeah. Just found out that there's something called Haeggman, so half bulimia calling. Haberman and there's something called Haeggman this. This is hell on. Yeah, but listen go to fantasy junction. Go sold and look for the green convertible. That just sold is what I'm saying. The search bar I know all the kids use it because it's so much faster, but can I tell you how many times I've found shit like on a website and I said Matt find the end table with whatever's there's nothing there's not you gotta scroll down it's like I. Like es, not coming up I, know so go to the website. Click on an tables. Scroll that there. It is all right like that happens all the time. fucking search bar. Farkas? It's faster, but when it doesn't either. Leedle, not yield things like the search bar should be. Here's with the search. Marsh should say. Nothing on this website matches what you typed in, but that doesn't mean it's not here. Road to the website and start looking now go ahead. Right built by legendary Bill Jacqueline. Wait a minute. You find a picture of it, and now they have to show us. Yes, all right and it's. I can't read it from here. Haeggman Haeggman Ha all right. So what I'm saying is the story shelby underneath this car? Go ahead. Okay by bill. Extra Body fabricator and legendary builder Jack Haeggman it's really long so I'm trying to just sorry to them. I'll let you I'll let you do that. Maguire sure but. See this is kids. Are you listening? There's a way to find the shit out. It just is sometimes you have to go about it from weird different angle like. I know. They sold this car I. Know, it's a weird one off car and I know they're gonNA. Have a story, right? They always have a store near because you're familiar with those guys. The story well. If you sell a Ferrari Dino you don't go. Enzo Ferrari was legendary car builder out of Italy. Is Really Yeah I get it that guy? But if you sell the Haeggman you have to tell the story, right? You guys explain what it is so. I I know that sold I know that that website has a list and most websites do stuff that sold, and you can still see the story underneath it, and that's probably the reverse engineering of this mind that car find that story, and then you get the guys, full name and everything else I. If you did buy that car and you, WanNa put wax on. It might I suggest this Maguire's everyone? Car Waxman. They've come a long way last year. Maguire's introduced hybrid ceramic spray wax. It's advance. S I o to Hybrid. Technology delivers ceramic. Protection and durability, no rubbing, not curing or buffing provides extreme water. Beat action. This year Maguire's launched their liquid version seals the paint for long-lasting protection against the elements I. Hope on the hood of that Volvo with all the over spray over there S. 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Side Good. His Lot would have been fine now. I'm a little confused on Hagman and Hager. Name was her two chassis builders, name Haeggman and Haberman and Just Haeggman and I've always had a confused all right. What's the story about? Haeggman Sir all right. The heygum jags special built from the ground up fifty five by Babes. In San Lately and ballot spell. Heck, Hey, government, H. A.. M. A. N. O.. It's the e that screws everyone out. Yeah, right? The to frame is inspired by the type, Jags, suspension and brakes mostly Jag. Built the chassis to take of the new Chevy to sixty five eighths with the local Chevrolet Assembly plant in Oakland refuse to sell them one car one without a car around it so installed at three OT GMC six three zero to yes, a three Oh to GMC. Called the Jimmy six her after the Jimmy failed in its first race place by a Jag power plant The brakes were originally drums, but after Loyd I racing the car at Laguna Seca and seventy six, no brakes by the sixth lap, they were placed with seventy six X K one fifty discs. What Years Khan fifty five. So the. The haeggman racing special commonly called the Heygum Jaguar or Haeggman GMC special was constructed and fifty five, using a ladder frame clothed in an attractive aluminum body. Built by Babe and Jack Hey Babe. Supreme came in Hayward. California oh so it was the local. Yeah with Supreme. Lefty five. It's California yeah. So Supreme Co owner of United Engineering Machine and desperately wanted to own and race a Jaguar C type. The problem was they were extremely rare and carried a price tag. Well out of the means of most individuals instead he created his own version of the seat type, and would eventually be become known as it's. So Easy O'Hagan GMC special all right well now. You just gotTa type that Guy's name in and see what whatever happened that that's that's in the fifties man so. Keep in mind that is. That's a good seven eight years before shelby came out here and was doing the engines and the Chelsea's. And in in a way, what he was doing is sort of like what Max Chelsea was doing with old yeller. Right building. Building actual chassis, and then putting the engine putting the power plant interesting they they. They put the GM engine in that are just to get it done. And then they really wanted Jag the whole time, but now it's still. Jaguars said no, and then they had put the GM engine, and then eventually they got the jet engine, and it kind of on their own. Once the car was done. It's kind of a weird. of doing things I'm sure there is some money involved fried. There's always like some sort of sponsorship or money involved because why? Why make that move trying to think though I've never seen? That car just as green British racing green far as I can tell with a meatball on it I've never seen any stickers or yeah sponsorships it on their own that seemed like they wanted to build their own car and race. It I'm also a little confused about the part where the car was built in nineteen, fifty five, and then went to Laguna Seca and seventy six. For Race Yeah. That was a little weird. We'd have to go back to the notes on that, but. Let me. Tell you guys about gyco right now. GYCO is offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car, motorcycle and RV policies. That's fifteen percent on top of the money GEICO could already be saving you. So, what are you waiting for your dog to make breakfast in bed? Well, that's not gonNA happen, but saving money can. There's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh visit GEICO DOT COM to learn more. That's GEICO DOT COM. It's a Typo it. They built it and fifty five, and it went to look into second fifty six, instead of seventy six probably seems like a weird seems like a little bit of a stall. Wait it out and see how it goes. WanNa. Let that paintcare. Let's give it twenty one years. It's even avid, and then the and then the breaks in work, so they outfit him with the Jag that seems like it happened in fifty six. Yeah because. They couldn't figure out the breaks of the twenty one year span. Other trump didn't worth. They got hot. What does this? Mean that must have been a press release because multiple pages have the exact same text on different articles so from they built it and fifty five, and then went down, and we're going to say seventy six yeah. I mean it could be maybe one of my high school. Friends was involved because. Of their time line, you know what I mean when it comes to like buildings of they were announcing fifty five I'm building a state of the art race car, and then mid seventies is when it would would roll out, so it could have been someone from my graduating class. So when I hung out with in high school. So. That feels. I don't even know what that. There was no vintage racing and seventy six. There's something off. Some things are some things off over there and again like yeah, even another article says it's been. To Monterey for the historic every year since one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, six Oh. That's a little bit different story then to the historic. Since seventy since seventy six, but did it have any? Vin, did it have any period racing in the fifties. That's Kinda the question Haberman. Hey Hey Gelman. What what happened to that Cat Yeah Jack those name. Jack Yes, and he died at age, Ninety, four and twenty ten for him. Wow, twenty ten. He made it to twenty building cars and fifty five. It born and raised in Oakland to Castro valley in the forties. I got into the Odyssey in the thirties when he hand built a Midget Racecar became a fixture at bay area race tracks inducted into the grand national roadster hall of Fame Sixty one for his work on hot rods his work included being recruited by famed Indycar Mechanic George, big noddy to wrote to work on roadsters among his accomplishments for fifties and sixties, race cars, leasing SYMPA, and and Heygum and Chrysler the day the David. Mg Td the less M. G. TD Tell. Tell nate to knock out. A DOC on guy sounds interesting to me. Listen if he raced. midgets than adjusted junior probably knows about the guy that guy collects all those things he's. He's the encyclopedia of those racing car, so he probably knows, but yeah I'm surprised hasn't brought this up already. By the way I'm picturing Kaelin here in He raced midgets back in the day. Kind of Macabre Sport with that. 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EP406: Crossword Puzzle Patriarchy, Biggie's Belt, & Fake Food

The Brain Candy Podcast

57:32 min | 1 year ago

EP406: Crossword Puzzle Patriarchy, Biggie's Belt, & Fake Food

"Borough six Franken cried Caz. Welcome wherever you are. Are you in your bunker? Are you minding your own bunker? Your own bunker. How Sarah Oh I'm doing well you know just Again trying to get things around the house done. I feel like I've rearranged my plants probably five hundred times thriving. They're doing real well. I had it was touch and go for a while with my big huge fiddle leaf tree because like moving. They do not like moving and she lost a couple leaves. Oh when I had her I had her outside for a bit and then we had like a random windstorm the other day and it was like a miracle like I put her on this. I put her. It's well it is a her. I feel like it's yes I put her on this plant. Stand like at night like at night time and I don't know what happened but I woke up in the morning and it was off of the plant stand like it had slid off but landed perfectly upright and didn't hit any of the other plants when it fell. It was like a miracle because this plant could have tipped over and lost an entire branch or something because they're very fragile so now she's been moved inside and under a window and is very happy and now's browder three new little baby leaves and like is back to like is like Yes here's where I feel safe. How dare you put me out in the wind and the cold so now? She's better well. Yeah because member. We learned how plants cry and people. That's what they are and it was so funny. One of the leaves fell off and when they were out there like enjoying a glass of wine into staring at the empty streets and Skinny. We have a balcony and we are over a very busy street. Where usually do lot of people watching but there are no people to watch him worse and I would just watching empty street. And the leaf was on the ground and he picked it up and he's like well like. Can't you turn this into like art or an art project or something? I was like well. That's so sweet of you to say that but you know he's like no no. I can do that and we'll like I mean it's just sad that that it's it lost. Its leave and I was like ran. I had to go through this to remember what helped me was haircut. Not An amputation hair. She's like Oh okay. That actually does help. It's true I think he's also developed a close relationship to the plants as well as you do when they become like part of your and like you notice when they're gone and now he cares for them in the same way so huge like can we have some plants in the shower Mike while they were there so we can have one. I had one in the shower that worked out. Great it was You know the ones that they their hair grows so long I'm always trimming their name like four or selling pot does th. Oh yes. I think that's it. They thrive and they. They're real hardy. And we're hardaway. Had One of those hooks that goes out from down from the ceiling And I put a plant on it and it was great. I think all the water from the shower that it just really loved that. It's perfect for that and it's dangling and hanging and those guys you can look through pretty gorgeous and the those kind of plants in your house. Oh my God that they love Your House whatever's going on in there. I know as soon as we moved here a couple years ago. All our orchids started rebe looming a well and that is the most fun because you know people have a lot of trouble with orchids so when you even get an won re bloom. It's excitable every few months. We get another bunch of buds. It's so fun that You know what that's like hopeful for all. I feel just bad for all the orchids that I have You Know Joe's that end up in the garbage because I'm like uh can't stare at an empty stick for six months but I should because it's even more fun when you see new growth on them and who God. I had this To this bud not buddy bulb from. I can't remember what the name of the flowers but my grandma's last Easter or maybe it was like right before Easter but her last like event and and things that she did with us before she away she gave everybody My Golfer family members one of these bulbs and I had it growing in the small pot and then I moved and somehow the pot tipped over and the bulb didn't wasn't in any water or anything like that and so I found it again when we moved. And I'm like I'm just GonNa Plant it and see what happens and like a miracle it's growing and it is still blooming and so there's a little bit of a hint of some life coming out of it. I'm hoping in a few months or so I'll have a nice plant but I just can't believe that. This bulb lasted so long. Yeah that's fun night. This yeah either like you think you've found the perfect spot for him then sometimes doesn't work out there very picky they are. And you know you can never You know like it's never too late. You have to give the plants a chance. And sometimes you know they'll surprise you with how the growing and even awful conditions and then some of them were like as soon as the temperature changes one degree they're like. Oh yeah yeah take it. Quarantine is made us like really lean into our golden girls potential. Oh becoming old ladies basic. Oh and I've been did. That is what I've been binge-watching I was like. How did you know what I was been like? Went Back to golden girls and and you know I saw some funny post. There was like Somebody saying oh you should try binge watching the golden girls in person respond with for the eighth time okay. Do that never gets old. Yeah Yeah I love them but okay so we're diving in now yes. Did you see recently when this was trending on twitter? There was a woman who had a hand transplant. I think both hands actually and They were of person of a different skin. Color and It was a successful hand transplant and then over time the color changed to match her own skin color. What what the fuck ask that. How did that happen? I don't know and I really didn't get any answers either because when things trend on twitter. It's not exactly like you're GONNA learn a lot she was. I WANNA know how I WANNA see like a time lapse photo. I didn't see the before but I did see the after in these were. She's a lady and they were from a man so I think this the size and the skin color. Were you know maybe not what you would pick if you were picking your own hands right. But they were acres campus users. Yeah it was a blessing and it was great but like you know you kind of want the ideal in overtime the color ended up matching and I wonder though what the explanation for that is if somehow Melanin or whatever the heck it is that makes your skin lighter dark so my dad. Even I can't even imagine. What did you like. That would be though if you were that person. I just also it's crazy that the hands of a man I mean like. I know that I shouldn't get hung up on that because it's like thank goodness. She had hands but like that would be so weird. You don't realize how much you see your hands and how much you know what they look like. You know until like I remember when I was younger my mom. She like grabbed my hand once and she was like. Oh my God I can see your hands old like you've my hands and it was like wow. I do have her hands and now as I get older I can see my hands becoming my mom's hands and it's just so interesting. I'm staring at him right now. Like oh my trip. Do you feel like you'd be real sad. If you had to get some giant man hand well I would be happier than have no hands but it would just be weird to look down and it would probably take your brain awhile because it would feel like they wouldn't recognize them right. Yeah I mean I'm Su- or if you're in that position that thought would be fleeting and like not something of concern because as you say no hands is always going to be worse than some hands but this is true but I mean they must have been similar enough in size that they were a good fit but like wonder what the heck I don't even know if she had hands and then lost them There's a lot of unanswered questions. Thanks for nothing twitter but I my gosh well. I am reading a little article that I just found real quick on it and it said that as her hand started matching her skin. Don't skin tone. Doctors were surprised is no scientific. Evidence exists to record changes in skin tone or shape of hands. According to doctors. This might be the first case. Perhaps AS SHIRA UNDERWENT ASIA'S FIRST INTER GENDER HAND Transplant Co. they're they're in ear. Says surgeons continuously researching how the colors of her hands have changed so change to match the rest of her skin? Tone doctors believe that her body is producing less Melanin which is a pigment responsible for skin. Color wow member when we talked about that situation where correct me if I'm wrong can't wait for this. Were wasn't there. People were getting like penis transplants and there was a question about race but came up. I want to say that this is the we did talk about this. Yeah I know we did because like how you be disappointed if you woke up with like. Oh that's different than again. Some PE- as better than openness that right sure. It doesn't take long for us to devolve into independence jokes speaking of which. There's a lot of mixed mixed responses from that. All of our Pena's questions yeah. I know. I feel like the jury's out and maybe it's just person to person. Yeah maybe this is like our discussion on the last episode about using vibrator not that is different depending on what you got exactly. Maybe for some people. They're very sensitive to pepper heat as it wore blue balls. Footballs did I show you the text from Matt Neroni posted it or he was like you guys are ridiculous with blue balls thing. You're kidding and I'm like what do you mean? That's not a thing. And he's like I don't know if you're fucking with me or not like he's adamant that there that that is the thing that is a thing. Yeah I think it. It's a real thing same with ren what I keep saying. They just mean they were still wanting to fucking. They couldn't say I all I that's what I and they just that that is they do say that physical pain and emotional pain. Kids somehow sometimes overlap and fill similar. So maybe it's that emotional pain that they camp differentiate like. I'm real. Sorry you couldn't get lead but you don't have a medical condition I would just like to take this opportunity though to say it is the perfect time in your life if there was ever a time to download best fans play. Today is the day. Today's Day come on. You're bored out of your mind. 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He looked basically exactly like you would imagine a school gym teacher sitting on a chair holding up Leonard skinner album and he looked like totally unamused. And it's the caption was this is Leonard Skinner. An American High School Gym Teacher Basketball Coach and businessman in his hands. He holds the latest album made by his former students who went on to form Van. Leonard's can be going to name the band after their gym teacher because inner had a strict policy against long and it's great because they changed the spelling instead of the letters and like he was like not into it. As you would ex- I'm looking at this picture right now and it is cracking me up. He looks exactly like everything that described. I'm dying I don't know why this is so funny. But this is hilarious. Like it's such a clever idea. And the fact that they changed the letter so that wouldn't get sued. Oh Gosh like he was stuck with it his whole life in sunset. I think he kind of aid it up. He didn't like it at first. He had mixed emotions later but I think he eventually liked it. Oh my gosh great. It's so great and I love The New York. Times described him as arguably the most influential high school teacher in American pop culture. Oh that's funny. I'm in how great those were his students and they were like fuck. You teacher the biggest best middle finger but like everybody. Nobody's hurt no everybody wins and when they interviewed him he was like look. I didn't make the rules like we weren't weren't allowed to have long tired. I heard of getting. I wish I had long tube. And he's sitting in this photo like smoking a cigar. Looks like he's about to record a podcast with a Mike Mike in front of him. I mean that must have been like for him because that happened in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven and he didn't die till two thousand ten so every fucking time. He told someone whose name he had to talk about That's so funny that you know what I found so this has been a good time to find hilarious. Instagram accounts. Yeah there there's my new favorite. Oh my gosh. I saw this article so this this woman her name is. Oh my gosh amber shares. She I don't know if she was commissioned to do this or if she got the good idea to do this but she was looking at reviews for national parks and she saw that. There were zero star reviews. And she's like why the hell somebody National Zero Starve. Your how bad could a national park? So she's a graphic designer illustrator and she said fuck it and she made a promotional posters for national parks based on quotes from the bad reviews. There so fucking funny like one of my favorites is the one for Yellowstone National Park. And it's like they're really cool kind of Mid Century. Modern style posters. And it's kind of like a mid century. Modern abstract picture of the geyser or the hot spring or whatever and it says. Save yourself some money. Boil some water at home like A. What is this one Cigar National Park? Okay if you like. Cactuses these are real though too. Yes these are real zay on one of the one of the Coats Zero Star Review that she turned into a gorgeous painting was scenery is distant and impersonal. Oh No no no Oh then. I don't even know how to say this Kyw. Yuko Valley National Park very very very very money. A lot of mud so you could check all these because they are hilarious visit. One-star Reviews Zero Star. Reviews are just as funny but the post are amazing and it's called subpar parks that's great and the pickups are pretty they're gorgeous subpar parks so funny the Grand Canyon a whole a very very large hole at the true and it just cracks up because like I and now they're being bought up like crazy people going nuts for these and like you know great because wouldn't that be funny. If you're like Super India seventy and I love the one you know. Somebody's like what it says. Somebody's was trees blocked the view. And they're too many grey rocks shed the most beautiful rock formations in the world. Timmy Gray ones like I love shrew but still why why would you just? I just love people who like are fed up with the yeah like to gray rocks but then I can imagine who's writing this and I think about like how my brothers and I were when my mom would drag us to if you had me at twelve give review for the feet see gallery in Florence Alabama too. Many pictures of old people and none of them are smiling. And there's too much shit on the walls. Yes amount would have been hilarious. It's like who's leaving these if it's a twelve year old being dragged their family reunion. Yeah I bet they hate and let's face it. The reviews are accurate. Larry Plan isn't just a big pit. This big hole very very very muddy just too much mud to me begging and I went to Grand Canyon. I don't know why we thought this was so funny but some lady was like rocks over there. Looks like a big pile biscuits or something. I should have that on the fucking. Yeah absolutely should Alabama. You know those those pointy like kind of spikes. I guess you can column in the grant and Bryce Canyon. Yes somebody left a review of those said to Orange to to spiky. So she too much like biscuits over here look biscuits. I also found a really fun instagram account. I think it's called royalty now. But it's a graphic designer who she was looking at the historical figures. Like if you look at picture and Napoleon or marie-antoinette or something like that and you know. They're all contextual. So it's hard to relate because they are dressed all weird or they have those weird gigs or whatever and so she makes them modern day. Oh cool and it is so. That's fun when you look at Cleopatra. And you're like I mean. She basically looks like a Kardashian. Oh My Gosh. What's it called? It's called his Royalty now I think royalty now like you think she's. She's not just guessing either. She puts a lot of work into the dimensions. And all these are awesome. Yeah Susie your this is fun. Yeah these are excellent accounts. Oh my gosh because like sometimes don't you like go like I feel like we get caught up in in like maybe following certain themed ones for a while? You know like I'll be decorating my house and I'm like following all these like you know apartment therapy and that was kind of things and I'll forget that there's something for every category. Yes Oh my God the one of Mona Lisa. Yeah tastic I'm loving this bad. Frankly that exactly. That totally looks like what he looks. Like you start to think. Oh these were real people. I think it can really inspire you know an interest in history because then it's not so far off these are really really good. Modern renditions of them that this did put a lot. What's her name? Bacchus Salahedin Salahdin. 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I know I mean I noticed a lot of the brainiacs started following the account that I follow for Corona virus cover up and they are loving it because then they write to her and then she posts screengrabs alright to her. And I'm like that's a BRAINIAC. I love it fine. Yup and the author outfits are shut outfits so good so good. I mean that's how I stay updated. Yup The author of our Book Club Book just started following me. And because I put up a post about you know about how much I love book which one which and her name's Laura gettys and it. She wrote the Chasing The Sun Book. Oh Fun yes so. It's like connecting. You know now that everybody's on social media all the time connect to those people in Connecticut. Oh you can yes Okay now I WANNA talk about this story that I read in the source magazine and it was titled The Legend of the Big Belt and that was about how nine hundred ninety seven at the source. Offices biggie smalls source as in the hip hop like. Yeah well Susie look I was like what is this. Okay now of it. I need some real strong cuss. You well I love anything about music. History I'm into and so was right up my alley because in nine hundred ninety seven notorious B I. G went to the sources offices for a photo shoot and he accidentally left his size. Fifty two belt Behind and he was supposed to come and grab it but he was killed a couple of weeks later and so they have the person who's offices office it was hung the belt on the back of their door and then every time the office would change hands. They would tell the next person. Hey this is a secret but this is biggies belt to keep it up on the wall or the door and you can't tell anybody and it's changed six times and only now we've heard about it. Hey they felt like it was sacred and lovely. I love that I love that. They respected enough to not sell it. Hey take it or that's so cool. I know it was just this little thing. Rose like. That's lovely and I like when people kind of maintain a a ritual or honor somebody in their away like who would think this gigantic ass bell hanging would mean something but it does and also I wanNA know like how it's hung up because I feel like that's huge like when you read something you picture it in your head at this moment. I can't remember if I actually saw a picture of it or if I just imagined what it looked like but the way that I have it in my head is just hanging from a nail on the wall so yeah that's how I have in my head too but then I think he said it's he lies. Fifty one. Is that fifty one inches fifty two inches. Yeah I think it's gotTa be right back. Yeah I know I've got. I've got my dog's leash that I hang up on a little hope and I always have to double it up because it hangs down to the floor and like in my mind. I'm like. Is that annoying. That it always drags on the floor when they opened and shut the door but probably figured that out a bothered me though because it was Plastic basically it was just like a crappy thought. Why is this guy not wearing a nice leather belts? Well he a look like back in the day there was those I think for a while there. Were those like plastic like sly belts. I think Gucci came out. Oh okay maybe that's what it was but I thought that was cute and a nice story. Yeah I love that. Oh I have a fun exercise. We're going to do Let me like an exercise move. Or what absolutely? Not Favorite kinds of exercise is going to be your how. I'm getting the sitters high right now. Love Okay this was in on time dot com and it was posted on our brain candy crush by BRAINIAC. The title is find out what your name would be if you were born today. So I'm in the hall and we're GonNa see what you would be Sarah. Nineteen Eighty two female. Get My name today. A nine hundred eighty six. Oh I put an Adams I'm sorry. Yeah Nineteen eighty-six and I believe my name was the most sick the sixth most common name. Let's see fifth okay. I'm going to take a stab at what I think. The fifth most common name for Girls Right now Brooklyn now so via Sofi. Sarah was the fifth most popular name in Nineteen eighty-six today. Her name would be sophia if you were born. This is my favorite part though. Yeah I'll wait before when I did it. It was I put in nineteen eighty two because I keep thinking you're the same age Adam which you are not and at that time it said that you're nineteen fifties name was Susan and I fucking love that the now. It's Debra Debra. That'd be my own name. Debbie. You know what Dan Dab. I totally could be a deb- I also feel like I could be a sophia. Yeah you could rock that. Yeah sure that's interesting. Why do you think your nineteen sixties name would be? I would guess this asked Seventies and seventy. What is it Kimberly? Kimberly that sounds newer. Do you think Kimberly born in the seventies Kim. Yeah you know what because it would turn into Kim? And Kim's who are like forty now forty fifty year old Kim's floating around nineteen nineties. What do you think your name would be? I would have said like Ashley or I was going well. That was my generation. So it's GonNa be a little bit. It's like yeah I would say like one of those like Madison or something like that. Oh that's a good guest is actually Samantha Samantha. That's funny because that's the name I gave every single cat. I had the name Sam for many years so I could have definitely been a Sam that seems like very fitting for me. Yeah I was GONNA ask you. Do you enjoy your name. You know. It's okay but like sometimes when people call it say my name like I feel like I don't it's weird. I don't hear my name very often. Is that by that I? I know that sounds weird but I feel like I don't hear when there aren't a lot of times where people are like. Oh Hey Sarah like you. I know that sounds weird but like ran will just be like. Hey Babe and so. That's like you know something like that. And then you're my w Bundy. My mom calls me bunny and then when I met at work nobody ever use my name. Nobody ever says like Hell. Did they call you like? I've just made my my clients. You know like when I talk to people were not. Yeah I know it just doesn't feel like people and I don't work at like at kind of office or something needs to give me some. Maybe when I was at school yes I heard it more but and I am saying this because the other day Ren said my name and I was like that sounds foreign. Ooh That's interesting like my hearing. My own name sounded weird. That's the only reason why I'm I'm going into this big long story about like how I don't because it made me. Thanks just the other day I was like. When was the last time I heard somebody call my name and when we call on the phone we don't nobody says like? Oh Hi Sarah they just start talking. You know. I'm so it made me think like. When was the last time I heard somebody? It's usually when we record the podcast. What the heck really now. I just can't believe this like think about another time. Somebody would use my name if I'm I can't different for anyone else though. I guess but if you worked with a well now I guess nobody's around a lot of people but foreign and weird. Do you think I should use Susan or Susie? Ooh I mean my birth name is Susan so go a Susan? Let's just try both all right. We'll Susan was the fifty first most popular name in nineteen seventy nine. It was earning fucking dying out. They were like this and high name. Today would be God. What Paisley pay eight? Okay see I could see you as a Paisley. That is the meanest thing you've ever said. Why would you say that? It's so mean this you know why because it's no you're just kind of like me airy no. I feel like Paisley would be like blonde and like you know like you kind of have almost like this like airy like light quality to you you know. I don't know how to describe it. They're like no. I really do think that Paisley has like Sam hardy solid. She's dirty ardy Paisley is like oh I'm just like I you float from place to place and you just sorta like yes. It's more like like I don't know feels like lighter air and like God versions like Sam. My My nineteen fifties name is Jane. I mean that's about right I could see. Us Jayme too. Yeah Jacqueline is my sixties name. Michelle is my seventies name. I'll see if I were in your decade. I would be Julie Julie Julie but if I put in Susie. That's a whole different. Yeah what happens with sues then become the fifth five hundred and forty third most popular wall big problem because I become Great Alina. Hopefully not that stupid. If you guys want to do this which. I highly recommend we'll tell areas it's time dotcom baby popularity named thing. It's so fun this really really fun. Who else can we play with the ICE GRANDMA? Who else do you want to know Ren Yeah let's do read your was he born nineteen ninety-two fucking to fury eighty okay. I told him the other day I was like. This is great because like I'm GonNa live forever and women tend to outlive men by about six to eight years so like it's great die minutes apart. Broken heart yeah okay. Ran Was the seven hundred seventy fifth most popular boys. It's an unusual name. It is Would be andor and are what if it just said very consistent. One thousand nine hundred Emmanuel nineteen sixties would be keen in nineteen seventies duel. Okay that's crazy that all of those. I mean sound like ethnic names. Yeah like black names. Oh my. Gosh. That's really interesting. Isn't it fun? Is that like you get down to a certain point and then the names have become because like yeah. They're less used interesting fine. Yeah that's really cool. What it's what's Randy. What would be? What his name be right now. Right now is the Andor andor. That's right which is terrible. I like ren better like is when people save money on their credit cards by using whitestream. Yes I really love that I'm sure you guys are feeling the pinch from everything that's going on. And it doesn't take long before those credit cards really pile up and it can be very scary and light. Stream is so handy because they have a better loan experience and will allow you to roll all your balances into one single payment and you get really low. Fixed interest rate light streams credit card consolidation loans have rates from just five point nine five percent. Apr With auto-pay and there's absolutely no fees apply today to get a special interest rate discount and save even more the only way to get the discount is to go to light stream dot com slash brain candy l. I G. H. T. S. T. R. E. A. M. dot com slash brain candy subject to credit approval rate includes zero point. Five zero percent auto pay discount terms and conditions apply offers subject to change without notice visit livestream dot com slash brain. Candy for more information. No Yes that's fun and people should try. I love playing all of those. Like what does the name mean and all that kind of stuff? I think we all love that. Oh I think it's the same reason that we like doing those Personality kind of tests and quizzes and things like that you know people in Collective cultures are less inclined to do stuff like that. Oh my God. Excellent excellent question. Because we're obviously obsessed over here with individualism probably. Yeah I would be much more concerned about like that makes sense. Wow I never thought about that. I'm just wondering 'cause we are obsessed with it. We're always acquit buzzfeed quiz. Which fucking friend or you or which for whatever and we all know your Monica. We don't need a quiz to prove that phoebe what's going on probably know. Let me know you're you're you're kind of a mix says everyone is. I'm Ross. Who are we kidding? You think no. I don't know Gunther phoebe. Phoebe brother who likes milk stuff? My God I mean I would enjoy hanging out with that guy. Oh he's funny that actors fantastic Giovanni Ribisi. Guess he's in scientology though. I always want to ask. Oh is he really? Yeah signed his family is I had no idea. Oh my gosh interesting. Speaking of collectivist cultures. I watched this really fun. Video on business insider that was about this company that basically has the monopoly globally on making the fake food that they keep in the windows in Japan in restaurants. Because it's so fun to watch because that would be such a fun job. You're sculpting food. Yeah so we don't really have it that much in the US but we do. Sometimes you'll see the models of you know food in order for you to know what menu us and it looks very realistic. And they showed how it's made so if you own a restaurant wherever you are in the whole world you ship it to them a dish a ship the dish to them to get out your yes you ship it coat totally cooked and in like dry ice to preserve that and then they take the fucking thing and they put it in a mold to make it so that you're you pour the fucking. I would have never guessed that this is how they do it. Not In one million years so they pour it in the mall and then they get it out and it you know however they do it and then it looks like it but then they have an artist hand. Paint each piece and it's painstaking work and then I'm like. Is this really the fastest way? I think it is if you wanted to truly look like the real thing and each restaurant it would be different so they have to look the same and you know now that you say this it really does look like all that food came out of a mold. Yeah it's got the because they went all the the the minutia the details of like you know if it's a strawberry they wanna see every little poor and seed that the strawberry has so that's how they do it and then somebody paints it and then they add like a sort of like a sheen on it yes so that it glistened in the way that wet food really would and boy does it because I I've shared this story on here. We're accidentally stuck my finger and women's ice cream because I thought it was fake to remember that. No sores an ice cream shop where they had to say was in. Italy or something. So I'm thinking that they have all these and they had the ice creams lined up. You know those little cone holders that they have. And they're like three lined up there and I was like. Oh my God that looks so real everyone to go touch. It looks like what I just. Tuck ice-cream no and then I look at her and I'm like Oh my God I thought it was fake and then the guy who's serving the ice cream is like oh for Pete's sake because he's got a maker new one and I. I tried to be like all. Just have that one but that it was like a flavor I didn't want so I didn't want her mind GonNa take her new pralines and cream or whatever she's got. I'm craving chocolate over here. You imagine weird that would be if you're the person who's waiting on your ice cream and you just see some lady. Stick her finger in there with no explanation. How old were you not old? I was adult or young. I like this. This happened in the last five years why I two. It was like my brain. What on autopilot. And I was just so like. Wow they such a good job with this one. Oh appreciating the artistry. Yeah and you know I was like man they really they really captured the glistening wetness of this ice cream oh my God yeah so great so what I mean when I say that you have a story about every fucking thing here is I brought up Japanese fake food and you had a story about ready to go and it's ridiculous but like I always thought is with this food that I had the idea because I do see this in like Japanese restaurants. Were they have the Sushi on display and it was my thought that things happened in the reverse that it was. It went the other direction where there was a standard. It was almost like this. Is What your food should look like here. You can order all of these Sushi things and then we send it to. We send you like the fake ones and then your chefs better. Do the best job that they can to make it. Look like that. What it's supposed to look like like thousand model so the chefs had all the pressure. Not The fake. I don't know because I feel like there's like a standard look for a lot of it's like Sushi and stuff. Yeah they were saying that. The origin of it is that while the troops were over during the various wars in the twentieth century. That the soldiers didn't know what to order because they didn't have pictures. Whatever and so that's how it began and I was like that resume. Yeah that is exactly how. Oh my gosh. That's really interesting. Is that makes total sense. That that's how because printing a glossy like the way we do now. That wasn't a thing. Yeah and it. I don't enjoy that when it's on the menu but it really does come in handy if you the pictures. Yeah it doesn't look delicious. I mean let's be honest sometimes. You're you're like salivating over those pictures. Well some of Yeah and you know. It's not fair with certain things like I looked up a Rahman plays that rented. I had gone that had the best Rahman Edberg and I just wanted to see what it was called so that why go to another Rahman place. I can order the same thing when I looked at the pictures. It didn't look appetizing brown soup. And I'm like yeah wouldn't afford that based on the pictures at all last year Paris and Colin. Go throw somehow they had like they throw the fancy stuff on top of it a and all that and like Yeah now the pictures yeah. Sometimes the pictures don't really do it. Justice yeah and I made Indian food last night and you would have thought it was terrible by how it looked but it was really tasty. Yeah looks can be deceiving Sarah. You've taught us a valuable lesson today. There you go. Thanks for coming to my ten. So the last story I wanted to share is about Something I read yesterday about. The title was the bigotry of Crossword Puzzles. I thought that we had covered pretty much. Every example of bigotry Patriot Patriarchy and other unsavory social behaviors. But we have forgotten to cover the crossword industry. Well I'm staring at Mike Own Crossword puzzle book right this second. So let's here. I'm glad you're doing that while you're I have you know I've been trying to cause there's like that that desire to pick up the phone and like you know. Fill my time with that and I'm trying to not do that so Trust repulsive is but tell me tell me how to be mad at these gusts okay. So obviously as with every industry Crossword puzzles have been dominated by men historically and as a result Men Remain the crossword editors. They have made some effort especially USA. Today to diversify the people that they commissioned to make the puzzles and it matters if you have a woman or a person of color or a queer person making a crossword. They're gonNA choose different clues than a white straight old man and so it was. The article was describing the difficulties. A lot of these Crossword constructors have when they submit their crossword puzzle because male topics things. That are you know. Historically masculine like sports are considered general interest whilst feminine ideas are considered Niche. Sports is considered general interest. Anything masculine is considered general interest. Well things that are kind of stereotypically feminine or African American or whatever or like considered like a niche things you can include in too many of them are. They'll tell you to stop it wrong for example like somebody wanted to use. Marie condo which to me is a household name. Yes not totally fair to put in a crossword puzzle. And they said the editor said she's not well known enough and has a quote strange last name. Oh my God furious. That's stupid and like one of the clues had an answer. That was gay erotica and they said that's not allowed because the readers will write in and complain but the word Erotica had been used four times in the last twenty years. It's the gay part that was my God superior rating that really is and I remember. I watched some documentary. I WanNa say it was. It might have been that documentary wordplay or was one on like the crossword puzzle competent. Something like that. It was a documentary about crosswords. I know there's a few out there but I remember there being or maybe it was like a vice episode or something like that I saw but I remember them talking about the crossword competition and how there was one African American guy who's been doing really well and he's younger and he's started writing a lot of these and he's making an effort to change that and include things like rap references and like hip hop references and. He says that he was like I remember him. In the documentary talking about how he had to kind of like pace those out and how the older people who were doing them just use like. Wow they just need to get on board and then if if we're going to know about old you know literary references from their generation than they need to know about modern you know still and not only should they do it just because that would be the right thing to do but it would also encourage younger people and more groups to participate in crossword puzzle construction and also solving. And that's a beautiful thing. We should be encouraging yes. That's very hard to undo. And like they're one of the things that was flagged was the answer was black girls rock and they wouldn't allow that. Get the fuck out here and there are bloggers. Who knew there was even crossword bloggers but there are and they do like basically a crossword version of the best show tests off see. How many school. Yeah our men and women and things like that and there was one that came out. I think it was in the New York Times by crossword constructor named Levy and she had submitted the crossword with only female clues answers but the editor made her one man in so it was like they were so excited because it was going to be the first one that was all now but then he was like nope any ruined. It missed Teheran t you. There's one with all male answers. Of course one million. Yeah so yon but it's just something I never thought and is important even if it's kind of you know it's not the most important thing in the world but it matters Yeah like even to things that they have included which I think our offensive would be like clues for the answer was illegal and the answer was one caught by border patrol. Oh yeah or like. The clue was exasperated comment from feminist and the answer was men. No yes get out okay. Now I'm mad men stuff like that. Now I'm an exasperated feminist right with a comment to make a case in point but it was something to think about in an interesting article to read a WHO knew I just. We should really think about it for everything. We're all so used to things. The way they are. It's good when someone sheds light on it you know and it's somehow I don't know how it ties in but it it brings me back to the names thing and and just like the popularity and what's popular and what becomes you know mainstream and what isn't and how it is to one group but isn't to another and it's just the dominating like what do you call it the social What's the word for that that dominant? There's a name for it. Dominant something but like basically the way they think most people think. But that's not really how all people think. Yeah yeah dominant discourse discord horse. Yeah it's just you don't think about it until you think about it so there you go now you guys are stuck with it in your brain to love that and I'm GonNa totally be critical of this crossword puzzle that I'm doing right now. Four or you know somebody like that when they put a lot of religious stuff in there. You don't like it well. I just don't feel like it's balanced with all religions not like it needs to be like like perfectly balance or anything but it just feels like you really need to know a lot about the new testament. That's about it. You can always ask me Sarah. It's fine I will. I will in fact I was thinking about that the other day I asked. Renos like who do you think would win in a game of name that tune? You're suzy ooh he. Oh He's got some categories that I do not have it all. He said you would win really but he knew all the hip hop and current stuff that I just don't know. Now you're reading the source magazine. So how honest can laugh? I shouldn't right. But because he knows about like you know motown in like older stuff too so I don't know I think it might be. I think it might be a now a petition. Yeah I think we. How can we do that? We can figure out a way to do that from our remote locations. Yeah we'll have to have kumble's yes I love you that I you're totally. Could we totally? Could you gotta get creative in these desperate times? Yeah we're having a lot of Not a ton but probably the same amount we would go out Like little skype get together with friends to have like a glass of wine or I met with my aunt online insured glass of wine and like just Chit chatted and facetime. Because you can't see it you know. Can't these ELSA tough time for extroverts? Yeah I think so well and now. I'm realizing this kind of ways that I I I. Maybe everybody has a little bit of introvert and a little bit of extrovert in them. You know we're not like all one thing all the time so the extrovert me is definitely like I need a little bit of going out. I need to do something you know and I always like no. I'm an introvert. I just want to stay in until you have to stay in your like maybe like going out. Yeah it's a new normal. That's for sure. Yeah I miss comedy clubs. I kept thinking about that. I feel bad for all the people that work at a comedy club restaurants. You million things but I was lying about that too that it would be so fun. This is when you need comedy the most right I mean. I'm sure people have already thought about this. But this is something that I am making an effort to because like. I do worry about like my friends who are hairdressers and things like that. So Like our housekeeper and all my hairdresser. I'm just GONNA pay him life. I got the service and then and do it later. Yeah I told my hair. I texted my hair lady and I just said You know I'm GonNa pay you the full amount no matter what happens but like can you tell me what to order so. I can do my hair and my God does if I need to. So she more. Yeah and I'll just pay her like I normally would and that would be. You know other people will do that too and I mean like less time is more like don't break. Your hair off blonde is a hard thing to do bleach like I know. She didn't seem worried though. I was like okay too optimistic about this. Just keep it real close to the route. Don't do a lot of overlap. Shave it off. I told Adam that. Because Suzy no for. Christ's sake I'll pull a Brittany. I don't fuck the second. The second like start hearing that lives in haired and trial. Yeah they did. Recommend men shave their beard? So Adams like Sean do it. And I'm like don't do it. I can't I rent no Rennes on allowed to either. Nope just notice your fucking hands on a day there. You Go Yup Yup all right. We're done please check out our patriotism. We're going to be doing a lot more stuff there. 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"This is the horse radio network. What up you a four horses in the morning. You're listening to the number one horse podcast in the world. Here's your entertaining. Look at the horse world and the people in it. good morning. Everybody i am glenn geek in ocala florida and i'm wendy yang in sarasota florida and you're listening to horses in the morning on the radio network for may six twenty twenty one. This episode is brought to you by her swear. Good morning horse worlds. Good morning everybody. As usual we are here with the driving episode which is the first and thursday every month for new listeners. Jamie and. I are here monday wednesday and fridays and then we have special monthly episodes every tuesday and thursday and the first thursday of the month is dr wendy yang and she is. I co host for almost ten years for the driving radio. Show doing a driving episode here once a month and Dr wendy is also a veterinarian and a traditional chinese medicine veterinarian as well so she's a regular bet and trees to she's she's kind of chinese so it works out perfect a regular and a chinese bet. And i also do acupuncture chinese medicine all of that stuff and she also has her own store. And we're going to talk about a product that we always do a product feature from her store. But first we're going to tell you what's coming up on today's show and i'm gonna let you tell him so. You have to say that name right so on today's show we have ellen taylor. The director of the harness horse youth foundation. good job it's so hard tongue twister. It's not as easy as it looks. she's going to share some great opportunities for kids this summer. Plus garrett cans dead shares. How he's leading the charge to renovate the marathon. Course at the florida horse park and our favorite from the cia. Kathleen hake has some driving related. Sweet treats and abby traxler shares the latest news from the american driving society so listen. Let's talk about your product feature. I what have you got. well today. We're gonna be talking about seasonal allergies. So i wanted to talk about Golden yellow sath. It's a topical herbal product. That's great for For inflammation of the skin right so in chinese medicine. Inflammation is heat. Swelling and pain right. And that's what we say in in regular medicine to so in chinese medicine what we do is we use cold herbs that reduce inflammation through the so golden yellow is called golden yellow is actually called a it's made up of four herbs that are traditionally known as the big the four yellows and the four yellows in chinese. The word hong is. And so whenever you see that it means the herb has a yellow color through the has a yellow flower so the four yellows are dumb blonde. Which is chinese rhubarb root hong. By which is philodendron bark which is also known as the cork tree bark John huang which is tomb rick so that translates as yellow ginger and huang leon which is cop this route which is common name is golden thread so these are very common Common plants that we have and as you can see a lot of Lot of times in chinese medicine for inflammatory issues. We use the root bark right. So i talked about this a little bit in some other segments with when we want to use things to get rid of heat. The taste of the herbs usually very bitter. And that's because the bitter taste are those alkaloids like there's a ton of stuff about tomb. Rick nowadays right and we know that the alkaloid entomb rick is bergreen and that is has anti inflammatory effects so as the molecule that makes that tastes bitter the molecule of alkali and all four. These have very similar blends of alkaloids so they work together. Synergistically and this These this herbal formula is put together in a coconut and beeswax base. so it is Pretty thick but it's greasy so it's easy to put on the scanner doesn't have a lot of drag and what so what it does is it. Reduces inflammation using the herbs and then soothes the skin with the coconut and the beeswax. It also helps with secondary bacterial infection. Because these routes are known to have antibiotic effects anti microbial effects. And then also it's great because as bitter so like say use it on a dog. That's chewing their hot spots. All the time The bitter taste if the dog goes to lick it off. Its bitter and so. They tend to not want to eat that anymore. Like that bitter apple spray that you spray on your doesn't chew off his bandages and then also. Since it's thick it can be a nice barrier. If you have a a bug issue like a non issue so i kind of think of it as herbal swat. So you can put that on. And if your horses has swedish or something and their skin is really inflamed and like it. Can't you know one their skins inflame the bugs bite it even more right so delicious to them so you can put this thick pace on kind of makes a barrier between the skin and the bugs and where can they find it. They can find it at dr. wendy inc dot com. Dr wendy dot com is actually on your website called golden yellow. Is that how it's yellow saf so you can just search in the search box for golden yellow and that will come up but we have kathleen back with us from the carriage association of america. Hi kathleen glad. How are you doing today good. I think you've been joining us for years. Now in this segment moral it has will thank you for doing it. We really appreciate it. You know the other day on the show. We talked about moving ladas and today. We're talking about brownies. It's my kind of week. We are and before we get into the brownies though we do need to talk about newell elementary in grand island nebraska an organ trail project and they have taken shopping carts and made them into wagons which owns amazing and they have been on the multiple mile. They did three miles on friday last. Friday are some of the kids pulling their wagons while other sydenham or how that working in families okay and so some people are pulling them while others push just the way you would back in the day and so they they have just been doing this major major projects. I happened to catch a video clip of the local news while they were at a trade stop which is where they got their snacks start talking about brownies in a moment but i do wanna give them a shout out because that is just an amazing project and took a lot of lot of coordination in such a great way to talk about wagons and about history in general that. I thought that was really cool. That's cool yeah now are going to bring them up in the mountains and upstart for days on end. Well they talked about that and actually they've had a couple of wagons breakdown along the way. Oh no they're higher. The wolves come and circle or now. But i think there were rubber. Snakes is just maybe the. They didn't have brown portion of brownies back then was heart attack. I think that was pretty much within. Yeah i don't think they had too much of a worry about heart attack before we get into delicious brownies. Things are obviously hard tack is really hard kind of bread stuff that they had during civil war and it's pretty much all the soldiers eight for a while But to do is they used to take because it was so hard and disgusting. They used to take it and they did have coffee so they used to soak it in the coffee and all the bugs would come out and then they could pick the bugs out of the coffee before the. The soggy really was a fifty year. Where i just thought. I'd bring you guys are always grossed me out on this show how much now i have to ask. 'cause we're talking about that. How do you feel about apricots and chocolate love it. So that's how they they had. The first brownies were was one pound of chocolate one pound of butter a lot of sugar some whole eggs and a little bit of flour. That's how they made the first ones and then. They put an apricot glaze over time. That was to make it healthy. Yeah he created the palmer house. And mrs bertha honor palmer created that recipe in eighteen ninety. Three four the World's columbian exposition in chicago. Okay they expert was chicago. Okay yeah now. When do you have an interesting connection to mrs palmer. Oh yes mrs palmer was is a celebrity here in sarasota because You know she. She was from this family that owned the hotel in chicago but like many of the chicago. Socialites she came down to sarasota and she started You know she bought up tons of land and was like a famous Cobble woman down here and she. In fact invented this cattle dip. Because you know we have. It's like a jungle down here in florida and there are so many bugs and it was really affecting the cattle and then the cattle dip that she invented which was like a as kind of like the caba walk into this pool and then walk back out like a horse. Swimming pool is Actually still here and you can see it in. Our park isn't house where you live on. Part was her property. Yeah yeah and there's a railroad That went through our neighborhood. Is the old railroad chain and the that railroad. They used to put the cadillac and take them up to chicago. To go to the you know stockyards. Yeah not yards. Yeah yeah she. Exported a tremendous amount of cattle from florida up to Chicago and other places In the more northern areas but she was was one sharp lady and which is great because when they first opened their hotel there is only open for like less than two weeks and it was destroyed by the chicago fire. Oh no and so they rebuilt that and then you know her her she was a society woman and she got on the board Four the chicago. Columbian which was supposed to be to celebrate the four hundred year of clemson wage to america but they were off by a year because they got delayed but the other thing that it was supposed to do was highlight the rebuilding of chicago. It had been twenty a quite a while since the fire which had really destroyed chicago. And this idea of having this worldwide exposition opened on may first eighteen. Ninety three in it was gonna last. Six months into october. Was a fantastic thing. Just give you an idea. How big it is. It was six hundred acres. Oh my guy hundred acres. Two hundred buildings twenty six million visitors consider. They were coming by train by carriage by horse. I mean it was absolutely. They came from around the world. Because when these exhibitions happened they were a big deal. I mean let's like taking all of our state fairs and putting them in one spot and People came from overseas. It was it was a big deal to be there and so of course carriage people were there. There were a lot of carriages. They were both people from other countries which ship carriages to the united states to be exhibited there and then we also had american producers carriages on exhibit there as well so during this time. Cincinnati ohio is a really big carriage manufacturer and so in eighteen ninety. Two they were. The carriage industry was responsible for about eleven million dollars worth of revenue which is a lot and so they had thirty four vehicles on display there and to give you an idea. They were exporting to europe. South africa australia mexico central and south america british indians western us and the sandwich islands which i believe at that time would have been hawaii and so this is a big deal and that's a lot of money and a lot of countries to be exporting to and so it was really important to put your best carriages front and center and you also wanted to appear very worldly well read and all these different things. So there is a booklet that was put out by the cincinnati business carriage industry builders call the world's carriage building center and it is full of quotes like this one from dickens with david copperfield which is right on roughshod. Smooth shot if if that will do but right on and they have these little references back to different stories all the time so they really wanted to repair worldly. They wanted to make sure that people understood that they were up to the being able handle all these people coming to see them and they do mention in this book which was given out not sure if it was given out to everyone but it was given out to select people that were going to be at. The exhibition realized that everybody was going to be able to come and visit their area but they wanted to give them an idea of how they were building these vehicles and what all they were great for etc so they have these thirty four vehicles on display and a couple of them. We're gonna highlight right now. 'cause they're kinda cool the have the one man's speeder and it's a hundred and thirty five pounds. Oh my god so you know it is tiny and so it's the body of it is eighteen inches wide fifty one could fit airplane. Seat wasn't meant to be pulled by a normal sized horse or pony was meant to be pulled by a normal sized horse. This one was specially adapted for turf and they were racing in them yet. How you have to do it on turf. Because i'm sure tons of them broke while you're racing like a drag on the ground. They did have a lot of. They have a lot of speedway's at that point in time specially made for type of racy to be honest. I didn't really know that they did that. Much turf racing at that time. I'd always seen on. Special ground was more dirt so i thought that was quite interesting to see that they had freezing but eighteen inches. I'm so small. By comparison they were awesome making a piano box buggy which the piano box buggy was one of the most common vehicles. You could get around that time. That weighed three hundred pounds. So that's you know one hundred box eater piano what it's actually just a box. The different speech maine's most things are fifty one inches. That's that's pretty normal for that. Type of the swan is twenty four and a half inches wide. So it's bigger you know there's a chance that two of you might fit on the but you and your child might be and they were very very common. But they were called the piano box buggy because they look like a piano box. And i think in some cases they may have actually been using that because they did reuse things so they were kind of like the keys of the day small and might be. Yeah we'd like glenn. By no i do i drive mine every day. They're like little kia three hundred pounds in at low between three hundred three hundred and fifty s a very common wait for buggies vehicles from that time but just like we build cars and and maybe keys for different things in different markets. You have to change depending on what market you're sending it to americans. We like our cup holders. A pan irks me in in some other markets. They like more legroom and particularly. If you're going to have a passenger they wanna make sure your suspicion. And the same is true with these buggies. They had a line of business buggies and the deal there was that it had a roomy seat. Although they don't specify how much legroom it does say that it was sufficient legroom and i would assume that that meant that. You were less likely decrease your suit. Did they have a cup holder. Please tell me a cup holder. Really have a lot of caught well. I don't think they had a lot of drinking ale. A log back then but now did they have specials like you went to the trade show like go into the rb show and everything's marked down for trade shows specials. Do you think they did that. I don't think they did that much of that. They would sometimes have special deals or but they would build special vehicles for these and they took their top of the line. Vehicles there An really they were going for the upper level. But you would if you were a dealer in buggies or vehicles of the type then yes you could probably make deal there. And they were with spend Years building up to this to make sure that they had enough inventory in stock to be able to handle the orders when they came in. Because we've talked before would needs to be dried and cured for before you make it. Easy to make carriages. So you have to plan ahead so this is a really big deal for these. Companies had a lot of money tied up in. It and bad bad exhibitions sometimes happened. There were cases where vehicles didn't make it to america or to when we were american sending things overseas the two other ones. They didn't make it in. That would just crush your your whole business they did. I did want to talk about one or two other vehicles really if we have time. And that is the ramona. They name these carriages. They had the queen they had the ramon. Uh lots of other ones but the ramona is a three spring elite loop. Phaeton three speak spring loop phaeton if i have to say that three times fast. I'm just not gonna make it but we tend to think of vehicles now as being darker and business like but this ramona was had a blue body with lemon striping lemon yellow striping and i it had to be beautiful is sharp and beautiful and Four hundred pounds. And but i bet you road really smooth because it's a three spring loop phaeton that would be. That would be a really great ride. I just think that that was more for society and particularly being fate and maybe a society a woman in society they also comment. They come in on a couple of things that are happening society. Wise one the buckboard which until this point was considered was defined by webster's dictionary as a rude four wheeled vehicle consist of a wong board resting on the two wheel on two axle trees and carrying a seat receipts. And at this point. There's push back against that definition and book. Boards are becoming more refined and a little less for the wild and they're becoming something that is acceptable for a family to have and they're also seen an increase in demand for two wheel vehicles primarily from overseas. Because as we've talked before yes what's happening overseas. They've changed their tax laws and they're taxing in totally on the number of no way. That's thanks no wonder they wanted to off. Yeah so they switched to two vehicles because that way you paid less and It's true here a little bit but we just never really got into toll roads the way that they did and in various places in the uk and in europe but That's why you see the change to from like a four wheel dog cart to wheel. Darker is because of those type of laws coming into fact not on taxes you talk about the book. Board are americans view of a buckboard. The most they have seen of those is in western movies carrying dead bodies after shootouts. That's the buckboard us right now. I'm that maybe next time. Because we're going to california. In june. The very beginning of june two thousand oaks for our cia learning weekend and we are going to be having the carrots showcase which is kind of like a car. Show but for carriages. I'm hoping that maybe for next month we can find somebody that is has some western vehicles that can join us and we can talk about them in particular because they are a unique animal in and of themselves. And you need a chuck wagon. We we ask chuck wagon. They do contest with those which i said what these. I think that somebody should be at this Oregon trail project at this elementary school. In grand island the chuck wagon. I really hope that somebody is able to do that. Wouldn't that just be so authentic But i think that We'll try to do that for next time. Because it really is a unique set of history and It's it's really quite interesting. And i think we're starting to see a reattachment to that type of american history but i think we've lost touch with it a little bit so exciting to see it. Come back kathleen. We're looking forward to next month to see a online dot com. Where you can find. They have a bookstore there. They of course their house kentucky horse park which is now open so you can visit anytime you stop by. Thanks kathleen thank you glenn and wendi another long tough fly season is right around the corner and the only choice for this fly. Season are the amigo range of flysheets. Because they're built tough and feature the latest and design comfort bug busting technology and some protecting fabrics and the amiga range has a fly sheet for every budget from the amigo. Bug-buster vanhoose with no fly zone to the amigo bug. Rug flysheet find. Amigo flysheets at your local or online retailer or you can visit for swear dot com. That's worse where h. o. r. s. e. w. a. r. e. dot com. There's a topic. Nfl talked about for years here on the show. And that's the harness horthy horse youth foundation. And i've never been able to say it properly but it's a group that's been around for a long time and you know one of the things we've talked about on these shows for ten years now is the fact that we need to get more young people involved in horse sports and that's all across the board every association that we talked to. That's their mission. It's the area where they had the most difficulty. Now because kids want to play video games and not get out of their chairs and you know getting people who are kids out do more stuff and getting them involved associations and competitions and things like that has always been a problem. We have ellen. Taylor here who is from the harness horse youth foundation and that's an organization that's designed to do just this. Hi ellen hello thank you for having me so you get kids out to drive standard bred horses and by the way you guys have had a standing offer for wendy i forever around one of your clinics that we get to drive standards. So why don't we just reminding you ellen that that's that's something you guys offered. We're going to take your off on sunday. It's gonna happen. We're not used anymore but we can act like we're young. So would you guys. Obviously were on. Hold here this past year like everything else was. Are you back in business. We're on the road so tell us what's going on what's happening. We kind of redesigned a little bit. Because we needed a reboot anyway Covert really. We made a lot of lemonade in two thousand twenty. But we're trying to learn from that we have five camps in four states. maybe it's six camps in four states That we are traveling to with our trodding breads. And we're going to do one days because we can't have overnights now but we're going to do one days to try to grab as many kids and parents as we can because it used to be like a camp where you went for a couple of days right. It was really a five day four night event. And we're hoping to get back to that but we're not there yet. So what are you going to be able to accomplish in one day with the kids. We can give a wonderful overview of the equipment Look some of the vernacular and the words that harness racing uses that are unique to us but more importantly right after lunch and this is kind of a secret but they get to this part but they because we have our own horses and we really believed that getting in the draw card is the key. We love everybody. They might not hold the lines if they're not comfortable or they if they're old enough and feet richer syrups. They can hold the lines and actually drive on a racetrack so back to see. Actually yes we do yes. They're two seaters so it's like a professional driver a real driver and then the kids in there. Well that's that's how you get him interested you know talking about. It is okay but until they get to the action part. That's what makes that's what sp sparks the light right. That is but did they also have to know that you go to spark clean. Install i in a regular camp. We were there the end i think than an one day. They have to sort of graduate to get to jog. I mean if they're gonna listen to me be boring for all morning then. They get something exciting in the afternoon. I think that's because you have to do that with kids. You know they need the action especially now. I think that's right. Yeah but then they get After that a lot of them then they obeyed the horses and you know if anybody needs medicine or whatever they get to do that part too so that it's very hands on camp even on a one day they get to do enough that they actually develop a relationship with a horse. Which is the whole key. You know wendy if she if we ever show up there one day she can make us clean stalls. You realize that right you. Are you going to make your own cd. I have a chart on how to clean up properly and it has to be if you come to an extended camp. It has to be checked off. I'll now that's jennifer always. She always goes into cleans up right after. I do this dolls i know. She does secretly though she. I'll go and clean stalls. And i think i've done this wonderful job. And then then. I'll be walking back toward the house. And i see her. Get a pitchfork. Go back into the stalls very quietly to tell you a wendy's my soul mate. So so how do the kids find out about these. You know who do you get. Who comes to them. We get a variety Not a scientific poll by any means about ten percent come from never having touched a horse about twenty percent come from racing families and about seventy percent come from kids who have ridden extensively but they at least have experience with horses the and that is very encouraging to me. Because it's actually people who don't know about harness racing and they're coming to learn more and i think that's exciting. That is cool. It's about harness racing to that like you know to be a jockey right. We all just saw the kentucky derby but to be a jockey have to be so small you know so a lot of teenagers are like bigger than most jockeys already. So is nice with harness racing. You can you know they can still and they down to aspire to be a driver. I mean they trainer. They're going to be a caretaker. We all know. There's a variety of careers aren't even close. But if they don't the way i look at it is we're using harness racing and the horses as a vehicle to promote better citizens and make kids happy whatever that is and maybe get him into horses in some way they may end up providing they may end up driving carriages ever. But yeah This is the kind of thing we do. We need to do this kind of stuff you know we had a. We had a guy on the show here a little while ago. He's in baltimore and he has an urban program and instead of the kids coming to the farm which is outside of baltimore. He actually made a deal with the schools to bring the horses to the school. So it's become part of the curriculum at an inner city school that the kids do this horse. It's one of the classes. They take is on horsemanship and he brings the horses to the school. So that's that's the only way some of this is going to happen right. We got to get them where they are I agree and H h. y. F. is exploring those options for instance this summer or this fall rather we are doing to a third and a fourth grade field trip. Where all the kids in the community come out. And and learn about maybe. It's the first time they've even smell the horse. I mean that's neat thing about this is you'd never know where the next great horse lover is gonna come from. And you're right the more that we can expose the masses to the joy of a horse no matter what breeder discipline the better off. We all are so and we have also done library programs and we go to schools to if we're if it works out so that we have the horses in the right place at the right time you have another something to that you're offering this year that's new so tell us about that motor activity bosses and their. That was the lemonade. I referred to earlier. Is that in twenty twenty. We didn't get to be on the road. So what do we do. How do we reach kids. While we developed a lot of the games and activities that they play camp. I just put them into a paper format and put them in a boss and mailed activity boxes. And there's a subtle four They're not for everybody because some kids. Think of it as schoolwork. But i can just see logo. Yeah that's right but there's a few little girls who are going to pick up a crossword puzzle or a you know math quiz or whatever it is. It's related the horses that that's what they like. And that's what we tried to tap into with the activity boxes. I'm very proud of their content because we're a grassroots organization. I would like to improve the the presentation of them a little and we have done some from twenty twenty two twenty twenty one version but we still need to improve that we know that. So ellen what where. Where can people find out first of all. What four states are you going to. We are going to indiana kentucky new jersey and pennsylvania. Okay and then assume. It's all the summer months correct. Well it really. It's mostly with the exception of the kentucky. One that's all august. I was all august. Because there's still some states that are very hesitant to give regulations and rules so we decided that we'd go later rather than earlier but all the information and the schedules on their online registration form should be up and running here yet. This week so Www dot h h. y. f. harness horse youth foundation dot. Org is where you can find all the information and to register and find out the exact locations so it's h. h. y. f. dot org correct all right. Well we'll put that in our show notes too so everybody can find the link there. Thank you so much for joining us again. We and i'm glad you guys are back in business next up. We have the executive director of the american driving society. Abbey on with us i abby. Hi wendy hi glenn. how are you to. I heard rumors that you guys are doing a program to help me out. But i don't even think i'm quite old enough for this one. I'm all for not that old yet. You've got a few more years ago. i guess so. We're really excited excited about this. New eighty s and tunnel club that was created and is sponsored by shelley temple. It is a club that are older members can join as their combined age of themselves and their equine equal or exceed. One hundred and i'll enough to do is Have that purple stars test at any showroom or club event in front of an eighty s knife jobs and then we send a really beautiful commemorative ribbon clock to be presented to them after their drive. I presented that the show. Yeah oh that's great. I love that it's really fun. It's really special and yeah you know it's it's a great way to celebrate our older members looking driving for a really long time this program Just launched its up on our website at american driving society dot work under ottoman number and then championship and award program. There's an application up their cd's download the application become. Fill it out. It's a civil pdf or you can print it and mail. It just figured it out. If i and my pony both live another twenty years. We're good. that's a big f. But you know what i love about. It is because the the horses like that these people are showing that are going to qualify are old and you know it probably like the last couple years. They're in competition and having a nice prize like that is so great they can have pictures. I mean it's a great way to remember. Your sweet old is what it is. I have to tell you. I'm so sorry. Just received our first application an for one but steady who has sat on the board of directors and just a stepped down last year and she is going to drive at a club event in oregon next weekend. And she's gonna live in her twenty two year old home-bred coney years ago. She won the can am derby out of forty entries. Oh my gosh vessel. Great you're going to be really special and the the news The tv news show is gonna come and cover it and to be a great celebration. Oh that's awesome. What a great program. Yeah i'm looking forward to it so please. Every mind go to our website download. An application ended in very good and there was one other thing too right. There was so yesterday we had our springboard corporate the over and during that are members. Committee hitched a A new program that we're really excited about and it's still within the development dates for eighty s member clubs and if their roster is fifty percent or more eighty s members they can become a eighty club. And we've got a whole list of you know Benefits to the club received and they'll be listed More frequently though the listed on our website. They'll be in all of our digital publication so anyhow that's called the eighty s blue red ribbon club. Everyone can kind of keep their eyes out for it. It'll be coming in the next thirty days or so. That's great tuber very good and of course all of this can be found at american driving. Society dot org is the website. Thank you for joining us. And of course you know. We're getting into compasses. Competition season pretty heavily here now so on the website you can also find where all the competitions are gonna be and if there's one in your area maybe you could go volunteer to They're always needing volunteers. That'd be wonderful horsemanship. Radio podcast is dedicated to the advancement of great horsemanship throughout the world. Monty roberts often stops five to present on this podcast hosted by his daughter. And legacy strategists. Debbie roberts louks the show includes segments tips and interviews exploring effective training centered on the well being of the horse. This multiple award winning podcast has one point six million downloads to date horsemanship. Radio dot com sponsored by hands on gloves and monty roberts university so we have my good friend gear cans that here from ocala florida. He has a fabulous property. Right next to the florida horse park. He can even drive to the florida. Horace park all along the greenway and He has taken on the monumental challenge of rebuilding the marathon. Course at the florida horse park. So welcome gear. Thank you for having me here now. This is like a big jaw. We love the florida horse park and it has some pretty good hazards but they kind of you know things get old right. Local them are about twelve to fifteen years old and they having the old measurements like two and a half meter inside an artery meter so because they won't be more human office and don't break and everything so that we are trying to do everything well it was built back in. You know it had to survive me. And casey zubac driving our foreign hands through their back when we were trying for wag. So it's a little beat up from that for sure. Hold off pretty good then gear. Tell us a little bit about now. You drove foreign hand. Horses some frisians. Yeah i rob appreciates in colorado. And then i'd over forty nine hundred a six our regions there and i only compete on petition. Met them and i used to drive washington in whole on in norway africa cool and canada and in america and now your wife. Roberta is driving. What size of your ponies. That she's driving. They are american components and they are on fifteen centimeter does small pundits. Yeah so. I think that that makes you really qualified to put together a great course because you know what a hazard needs to be challenging for all different sized animals long. I did Coupla years ago A friend of me challenge to go to the championship for premium and i had competed longtime in kentucky. The my lifestyle and open field quarter and we all have to get on the bell fully go to championship and we did that in one year and visited it all the small opponents go. Oh that's great and now off the florida horse. Park is kind of unique in that. The it's it's owned by the state of florida right. Yeah yeah and provide wednesday kerr property and public property. Anybody can go. You don't have to be a memory. It's open to the public is open to the public. But you have to pay like if you're going to use obstacles posed to pay a twenty five dollars if you're finding are going into using them same preventers paying fifty four using the dumps. Costa rica maintenance with everything and and with all of us come in the and you can ride and drive everywhere you know as as nice and everything but they are pretty flexible. Only to you know. So it's not like caring and breaking down things. Jennifer my wife and i go over all the time and i bring the carriage along with my pony and she rides in you know if you just ride around the edge of the horse park. I mean you don't have to go in the middle of all the jumps and obstacles are. You're right around the edge of the horse park and then you can get into the greenway you can write forever out. There we have a five mice duluth around the park that the using unlocked and otherwise. If you go through it or all these like thirty nine miles for even more you know but some places early fandy that. There's also like before miles inside than for the host fox that i really nice about draw long today or you can see facebook page and contesting. It is nice and there's always something going on there so you know it's good for the horses to be desensitized a bit too because there's always a show or something going on you know. And they have all kinds of other events there when the i don't know if you've been there since they built a new barns but they all gave me the tour thirty now how did you get involved in remodeling the hazards. And what's your vision for how this project's going to work. While i started off in this almost a year ago no i was meant over that and i could see events jumps flying out all over the field you know and i i have seen happen before you know in kentucky horse park of will have people taking over you know fuck well more involved here drivers you know clubs and everything so i spoke today and then and we started talking about fixing the obstacles and then later. Mary came into the divorce. Share share share my chairwoman off the board for the horse part but i need proximity and and then you'll have to sort of work from the everything sort of bold right and nothing mind has more opinion and but basically it turns out that a dream most likely make like a cloverleaf. So every and the with moving some obstacles a gift everything more all three lineups remember. And the new england the opposite side and more obstacle sorta down and then very very easy access for people to run off from the barn walked obstacles Watch all the friends drive and run back and get yourself ready and it's a lot more friendly public and for everyone you know is all or departs. Yeah because sometimes you can't You know if it's in a straight line sometimes people think oh that's good. They're all in a line. I can just walk down there. But you'd have to go back and forth and then maybe somebody would spectators just have to pick one obstacle but this way they can kind of see everything going on from one location. If like won't cleverly so you can see you can actually see three for obstacle von spark. And when you're dumb with everything is stalling. Moved on everything you get the money because it costs money and and then we'll will be very very nice for public and everyone for running and you get most traffic with the gold cards all the way to the park and north or in one place and so how can people Do you need volunteers to help you. Wall i have the when we had the pain tape pretty awesome facebook and we had ten fifteen people showing up some people from the poor and lots of people from our don here preventer soldo and he painted like obstacles in two hours. And wow that's an ass. We did two of those. And i just have to set it off and paint and buckets and everything ready you know so there's a little bit behind you to to get it going nice. You know man but it turns out in the no. We have a hop obstacle i on the about fifty. More pollster hands coming here in about one off. Meet your health. Nick with i mean they are volumes posts so they are very heavy so i can't oh my gosh. That's huge. no. You can't do it yourself and so Getting those in not the board in there and we have the boards and everything and you have the state and so then you're going to stay on penis does and then we have basically four obstacles. that are redone. that still need three more. You know make The top venue in america so How can people track your progress from your facebook page facebook page and most of all you know i like there's so many people often driving you know and look people are using the park for riding or driving or class. You're if everyone the fifty bucks are hundred bucks. You know longtime you know. Yeah people you know. We had twenty two thousand dollars right right and we could easily reach our goal for a twenty thousand dollar more. You know but it's been harder. But because i have so many friends all over america that have been very supportive and the the regular was the first woman came in with quite a lot of money and focus on getting ready. Nice super. That's super. that's why there's so much orange on the course. No no no. It made me feel like green. You know okay. Well your facebook. You could go to your facebook and you're you spell your name g. e. i r. k. a. n. s. t. a. d. norwegian. Are you norwegian. donald fifteen. Now you have to come back and tell us about all your travel is because you have these great stories about all your travels all over the world. We don't have enough time to cover that so you have to come back soon and give us an update on the park and tell us all about your world travels. Yeah i'll do that you know. And they're so please. That rolled out there here. You know. sometimes you need help to come up branches cleaner in trail. And how staining and i know not florida horse leaps contact Bob there you know and even look on their website you know all right well thank you okay thank you well. It's now time for our traditional chinese veterinary medicine segment with dr wendy ing. It's springtime right. So what do we have to deal with. We have to deal with allergies sneezing. Yeah the pollen and ocala's pretty bad and tease in chinese medicine. We think of allergies as wind heat. Okay so the wind is the pathogen that brings the allergens to and the heat is the inflammation that your body than Reacts to the allergies right. And so you're allergic to to lots of different things right but why spring so bad and it's something that we call the threshold right so you may be allergic to bugs and you may be allergic to pollen. And you may be allergic to dust but individually if you're just exposed to one of those at a time. It's not so bad but when you have all of those at once then it pushes you. Pass your allergy threshold and your body. Can't your body can't fight off the reaction. And that's how you get allergies in our horses One of the most common allergies. We see Topically 'cause we're talking about topical topical issues today. Is we see swedish. Which is an allergy to the biting flies or we see summer source which are non healing wounds that are infected with the habur. Nima custer i know you. I'm not going to get into those i got. There's another show where we talk all about elbows itchy things but and then like for farm dogs right. Sometimes you see these farm. Dogs in their skin is so bad and the people are doing everything they can. But they're in this horrible. Each scratch cycle because they're allergic to fleas emerged. Food allergies pollen stress. So when we're treat allergies we need to think of the first thing we need to do is break issue. Scratch cycle right. We need to stop. We need to reduce exposure to whatever is causing the allergen which is sometimes impossible. I mean we live in florida right glenn. How are you gonna stop bugs from biting your horse. Big bugs from fighting so all kinds of bugs from ranger with the bugs that with the bugs that That cost swedish little nats. They usually by more in the dawn and dusk and usually find them along lake flowing water. So some of these you can do is keep your horses in behind the fan during dawn and dusk use a lot of vice bray and then use things like i've talked about this before. Bt is like mosquito dunks. You know those little mosquito. Donald can throw in the water Those things can reduce not only mosquitoes but they also get rid of The the the little knocks and then you can to break the itch scratch cycle. We need to sue the skin because sometimes there so it g they rub themselves raw which we call self-mutilation right. They itch an inch until they bleed and they get a secondary bacterial infection from the open source that they're itching so badly so to help that. We could use a topical product. Like i talked about in the product feature the golden yellow staff and with the golden yellow sav does is help soothe skin and it helps with each and house reduce the bacterial infection because it has a lot of antibiotic properties. But it's also in this beeswax and coconut base so it's really thick. I kind of think of it as urban swat right so like one of my horses gets really bad bites on the inside of her ears and she refuses to keep her fly mascot. I've tried so many times. I i can't tell you. How many different fly masks. I've had even vet wrapped it to her head. She's still dr should look like homeless. Pony i've read and she got it off with him a couple hours. So what i do is i take this. Golden yellow and spread it on the inside of her ears and so that it makes a physical barrier so the little nats get stuck in there or they can't get through. You know it also for your dogs if you have a dog that has like you know hot spots or what we call the lick granular where constantly looking their foot or the leg. you can use this golden yellow sav because it is really bitter tasting and so you have to kind of when you when you scratch and edge it tells your brain like that feels good so you kinda get addicted to scratching so you have to break that cycle so for the puppies you put something bitter on their look it. And then you know. It's like a punishment so they kind of Resetting their their brain so they're not keep itching So that's what we should do for our allergies in spring. Try to reduce your exposure. Try to sue the skin. You wanna break the cycle and You can use a topical product like the golden yellow. where do they get the golden yellow. then he can get at dr wendy and dot com. Well we're at about the end of the show here. I wanted to remind everybody that tomorrow on the show. We're going to be given away our price really bad. So you're gonna want to tune in then it's an auditor box of crap. Yes the orders got together and put their own box of crap together. So i have no idea what you're going to win but It should my boxes. Graph are usually pretty good. So who knows what's going to be in the auditor boxer crap and then we're also going to be announcing next month's prizes for really bad ads and horse lovers came through with almost five hundred dollars in prizes so now as the i think we give away more prizes on this show over the last ten years in any other. Podcasts is giving away. I think so too i think it i mean we give away great prizes. I think with radiothons. I figured it out. And we've given away almost seventy thousand dollars in prizes over the year. you know. it's a lot so so you're lucky. 'cause you're listening to this show and Dr wendy yang of course can be found at dr wendy dot com. We just said and are you out. Are you doing any driving anymore. do you drive anymore. I drive around my neighborhood that still out there. We gotta get down there soon. I know it's so fun down here. We have to bring our care down in park near yard. Yeah let's bring the horses down. We'll leave the care at home. you have. We can stay in your wing and bring horses down as he can do that. You can do that at didn't go to bed. Last time they didn't carry on too much They will maybe. Maybe you can stay across the street. We'll rent the barn for across the street and the mansion Wendy posted this the other day. There is a place across street was abandoned for awhile. Wasn't it from your house. Yeah they were like they got caught up in the mortgage scandal the mortgage whatever being you know and so for ten years. They were fighting with the bank and it was pretty much looked abandoned. It was not good looking. Yeah no and we call the zombie house and now they fix it up. You sent to add for listening at on my god. It's beautiful asked gorgeous. Now if you have whether it's a nice neighborhood anybody's interested. Yeah across the strait. Little geese are a little loud. Yeah and you have a built in vet though. She's right across the street. So so we're what did they want a million and a half of that place two point seven and you know what in today's market they'll get three well. There's another house for sale in my neighborhood for three. but you know why The prices have skyrocketed. Because everybody's moving down to florida well and in ocala. It's ridiculous because of the world aggression center. It's just ridiculous here. Prices have gone through the roof. Rents right now are in the ten thousand a month range for no no. It's crazy crazy money right now for that. You could buy this mansion across the street from me you go. Your property value just went up indie because the neighbors house got nicer. Jane you can. Of course find all of our past episodes for the driving show at driving. Radio dot com a confined all the past episodes there. You can also find horses in the morning and horses in the morning dot com and we have a bunch of shows you can find them on our app. Ios or android to search for horse radio network. Whip twenty different shows that we do. I do a show called stable scoop which is a roundtable show. That's turning out to be quite popular. Actually and i do that twice a month where we do it live on facebook video as well as audio and we have different panel of experts. Think of think of your local or your national news with a panel of experts only without the fighting And that's what we do. Talk about are stuff. That's right and like last time. We did a panel of authors from the horse world and they talked about how to get started writing. Your first book missed that. Try and mix it up each time. So it's a little bit different and next next one that we're doing is going to be all listeners. And they're going to be talking about things they're interested in so i really do. Try and mix up the panels and it's very fun. It's a fun show to do. And i really like it. So that's at stable scoop dot com. You can find that thank you. Wendy thank you glenn and remember keep the shiny side.

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GSMC Technology Podcast Episode 172: Hyper-Converged Infrastructure

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GSMC Technology Podcast Episode 172: Hyper-Converged Infrastructure

"Golden state media concepts, technology podcasts covers gave everything. Mobile phones, tablets games, we review it breath tested. Whether you're Microsoft or Apple Android or Iphone we'll give it to you. Can. Get. The golden state media concepts, technology podcast. Good afternoon. Good Evening Good Morning. Whatever time it is. Hope it's good and welcome. Thank you for tuning into the GSM. GMC Technology podcast brought to you by none other than the G. S.. M.. C. podcast network I'm your host. Jake. Durkan. And today I want to be taking you on a bit of an adventure where we going what are we seeing? Well, we're going to be talking about converged infrastructure I. Know it's a little daunting. It's a bit scary but it's okay. We're going to also talk about envision APP, analog rocket in the crazy things they're doing, and then we're going to talk about smoking meat wait. This is a technology podcast. What is he? It doesn't matter stay with me. It's going to be crazy and last but not least. Call they goes. Okay. We're going to talk about something that was leaked by a gigantic company named after a small fruit. All right. Well, again, my name's Jake Durkin I'm super excited to talk to you about this stuff. So without further ado, lert skirt earn do it cue the music? Burgers. There yeah there. Okay. I didn't scare you away quite yet which is shocking and I think you should be worried for your own psychological health. But regardless your year we're talking it's going to be a good time. All right now, what is converged infrastructure? You ask? Well, before I tell you, I'm going to have to hit you with a quick. Look. We're talking about right now are pretty high brow and I'm not going to get to win too and I'm not going to go crazy but converged infrastructure is not something hear about on a daily basis. Why do you need to know about converged infrastructure? Well, if you're a business, you definitely need to know about it. So for those of you who? Up. Until now, I've had little to no need for such knowledge prepare to have your eyes opened. Open your eyes and see that you is a rope and all right. So. Let's break it down what is converged infrastructure well, the best way to go about this is to say it as simply as possible, but that's not very easy. So here we go. So converged infrastructure is a way of structuring now. A way of structuring. Multiple components into a single optimized computing package components like servers, data, storage devices, network equipment, and software for IT infrastructure management automation, and orchestration I'm falling asleep just okay I'm just kidding what this means in simple terms is it's basically a network of hardware non hardware that is stitched together. let's think of a metaphor. Like a team, a team of football team. Yes. So metaphorically speaking. Stepping way back most companies have been for a long time playing pickup football with random players who have never practiced indoor play together beforehand. But. Since they all understand the game and what each player responsibility is it at least works but converged infrastructure is like raising each player from birth to play football with their specific teammates for the rest of their lives they know how to communicate with each other because they've practiced together since they were born and they performed better than any other team on the face of the planet that's basically converged infrastructure. Did that make sense? I don't think I'm doing a good job of this. Okay. So it's basically a bunch of components that stoically have been separate. Like your network and your like the hardware with the network and with the storage, they've been separate a lot of different companies specializing each. Each mode and instead one manufacturer in one company builds all of it together more or less or at least they they build them to be highly compatible. So they connect and one of the leading. Companies in this area is Dell or Dell EMC familiar with them So converged infrastructure, the key benefits when you go to someone like Dell is to accelerate it operations a they deliver maximum performance, a offer protection for mission critical workloads and they're making sure to meet the cloud era had on so that companies are more capable of really. Allocating the resources and also leveraging new technology. So companies like Dell EMC use converged infrastructure to transform the way that businesses do business they simplify deployment and management support high performance workloads, and in just make the best out of the hardware that because it was designed together is all tra- compatible in some would say hyper compatible. Why do you say Hyper Jaguar? Using the word hyper well because they also offer hyper converged infrastructure, which is their leading product line for businesses They have the VX block, which is this gigantic like fridge size system that has everything built into it, and it's all made by Dell EMC. So it's all super compatible and you're basically running your business on the fastest network that is also Highly capable of working with cloud based systems and just imagine working on the fastest computer and fastest systems that you can get. That's what they offer and it's incredible. What is it doing? I mean imagine it likes like Watson you know Watson holds a lot of weight. Why does Watson hold a lot of weight well, because it can process so many so much data, it can process so many things and It emphasizes the implementation of artificial intelligence and obviously we haven't hit the peak of artificial intelligence yet but ron away and stuff like converged infrastructure and hyper converged infrastructure are getting a step by step closer. To being able to do that. So, why do I need to know this? Well, the potential impact of hyper converged infrastructure is that companies will no longer have to deal with computational and storage restrictions like they have and despite the fact that it's still a little too early to prove that it can replace storage arrays in all market segments it's likely to further simplify management and increase resources resource utilization rates where it does apply. Not only that. But according to business wire in Berkshire Hathaway, the global hyper converged infrastructure market size. That's a mouthful is expected to reach twenty, seven, billion by twenty, twenty, five rising at a market growth of thirty three point two percent C. H.. During. The forecast period that's insane and that's a huge growth and not only a huge growth but a huge. And that's because of the fact. That hyper converged infrastructure systems allow for the integration of storage system servers and network switches. And thereby, they can be managed under the same single system through all instances of hyper converged infrastructure. So the built management functionalities, insurer convenience and USABILITY, and thereby the software defined storage has great potential to yield better scale ability and resource efficiencies. Also, organizations can start at a smaller scale and expand their resources as and when required. HCI vendors promote potential cost savings as aspects like it. Labor data center power in space and avoidance licensed Software Yada Yada Yada anyways. The companies that have been profiled in our leaders apart from Dell EMC. Or Cisco Systems Microsoft Corporation Packard Enterprise Company NEC corporation Ibm net APP Hitachi etc etc and it the list keeps growing because it is such a high growth opportunity for any business to get into and with all these tech giants or at least the tech giant's that are kind of smaller than apple because everybody smaller than apple for some reason, they just have cash piles and we'll talk about that a little bit later. That's an interesting story. But. All these other companies are seeing their product lines sort of just at maturity in needing more areas of growth. So so many of these tech giants investing in this because it's a continued resource if income sorta like what we're GonNa talk about later with apple, but it's one that is very valued in more fair than what we're going to talk about with apple I'm teasing you so much all my God this is GonNa be crazy. anyways. There's a new company. Nah. Tonics I believe is how it's pronounced in an announced, its general availability of not clusters, which is hyper converged infrastructure hci I, which is what I talked about earlier on. Amazon web services what everybody refers aws public cloud and key use cases targeted are the ability to lift and shift workloads to the public cloud in particular in cloud bursting scenarios as well as. Disaster Recovery uses and this is this is an area that I don't know of anybody could have anticipated they're being it's like when you try to anticipate the future problems, you can't do it because you can't see what technologies are GonNa come out and some people can some people see these things coming I personally would never be like, oh, it some day they're going to have a cloud. Somewhere in the distance of information, and they're going to also have to have storage and infrastructure on his side to make sure if there's any issues that the cloud that everything's still exists in that everything still works. But. What if you ask? There's some sort of. Let's say terminator type takeover of the world. I don't know or I robot TM. I don't know if that's the but. If there's anything like that, what's going to happen? Well, that's what these people are working on their making sure that while everybody is developing these artificial intelligence systems as well as these hyper converged infrastructure that are going to communicating on on a daily and annual basis and sharing information sharing human data scary they're making sure that there are all these safeguards. It's SORTA like how the US government is set up with these checks and balances. There's going to be checks and balances that that's the only way we can keep moving with all this artificial intelligence and make sure that. They don't eventually say something like the safest way to save the human race is to destroy it. which is what the plot to basically every SCIFI movie around artificial intelligence. What's cool is that the sci fi movies are now becoming a reality on like as days get closer and closer and closer. And closer and closer and. What we're going to see is all of these systems built in a way that they're communicating, but also offloading to separate systems that are hyper converged in to. Handle the capacity and you know then you're gonNA have VPN's built in for. Military Grade Safety it's all of. Innovation taking place at the same time. A lot of it is based around hyper converged infrastructure because if we didn't have converged infrastructure, there is legitimately no way we can handle the amount of data that's going to be coming in the future. I, mean, we're just we're sitting on a pile of data that he's yet to be processed on a daily basis. If you go on linked in jobs, indeed jobs glass door jobs in you look at the the positions that are available a lot more positions for data analyst in data. Data miners are available as well as software engineers because we need systems as well as engineers to be able. Take all this data and process it. But in a lot of cases without converged infrastructure, there's no way that it's humanly possible to do any of this stuff, which is why hyper converged infrastructure as I said before, it is going to be a twenty, seven, billion dollar market it is. It's the only way that we can find right now to be able to process the amount of data that we have coming. It's really the it's the saving grace for the tech our and it's one of the main things that's going to help us continue to innovate on a on an international level as far as tech goes. So. Let's see what the trends are looking like in this industry because a lot of people are wondering of people who are wondering what the trends are to see sort of how you can capitalize on this huge market growth thirty, three percent market growth. So let's talk about the evolution of hyper converged infrastructure. What everybody's saying is it's going to point to the cloud just like I we were talking about just now. Hyper converged infrastructure is. is a way to provide. Cloud like environment with maintaining closer control over the IT resources. In the best way, I can describe what Dell EMC does is they lighten the load on the IT team because they're still necessary but the reason Dell EMC is the biggest. Is the market leader is because of the fact that they have people that are assigned to specific it teams to basically implement whatever the I team needs with their converged infrastructure system mouthful. So the trend, the trend definitely going to continue and. As we've seen in the market analysis from Birch Berkshire Hathaway, it's actually going to accelerate. The. Technical Solutions Architect Jeff Mercier. At. Worldwide Technology. Based out of Saint Louis. Even. said, most of the HCI vendors are extending their capabilities to the public cloud in order to give seamless integration between the two. This allows customers to use public cloud resources and services while keeping the same manageability across both environments Brandon Harris Senior, director of the Business Development Data Center. At. A. Logic. Logic Alison US and it solutions provider MS P. based in New York said hyper converged technology was originally data center centric. Cloud infrastructure to a certain degree although using HEI to run applications data center continue to be important hyper converged vendors recognize they need to be able to extend the capability to to the cloud in more of a hybrid model. So, what's the next trend we're seeing? Well, HCI will spark edge. Computing another trend we're going to be seeing his new vendors and aws will take a bite out of the traditional HCI. So what we're seeing in general is a lot of competition. We're not only seeing a lot of competition. We're seeing a lot of innovation and there's going to be new ways to use hyper converged infrastructure i. hope you understand it by now but if you don't definitely do a google search and check it out check how you can take advantage of this incredible market growth. anyways stick around. We're going to talk about log rocket and vision app how you can smoke meet with your phone and some news about a company founded by a man named Steve. CNN. Do you work in the world of marketing and advertising. Are you a media buyer or the owner of an agency? Have you been looking for a podcast to help stay on top of all the goings on of those worlds? 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Well, if you're a software developer and Business. I mean everything's online. Now you need to have an APP we need to have a website everything is online and you need to know how people are working with those APPs in what he what do I mean by that? How are they working with the APP when you launch a website and you launch and usually it sends off and until you get complaints back, you don't know what issues you have or unless you have people built into your company that are testing them on a daily basis you know. It's a slow return and sometimes you don't get the feedback. People just stopped using the APP which is brutal because you want to be interacting with your customer base you WanNa be keeping them tuned into what you're doing and how they can better how you can better serve them So that is what happened. That is what log rocket for my favorite of the to envision APP it helps software developers designed better faster and together. So the digital digital product design platform that they built. Is powering the world's best user experiences that's at least how they advertise it and It's not just how they advertise it. They are used by some of the biggest companies in the world. Especially, the biggest names that you know of in the tech industry have you heard of spotify? Have you heard of Amazon HBO IBM Netflix's Lift Not over yet But. They're working on and I'm sure well, what this what their software allows you to do. Is this crazy thing. Sometimes, it sounds a little creepy, but it really isn't. It helps them prototype stuff. You know whatever APP they're working on. It helps them prototype it and it uses cameras built in whether it's on your phone or on your Mac Book. It uses the cameras built in as well as the user experience that they're tracking at the time not with just general people. This is these are test people. uses it to see where the pain points are as well as with. With just general user data, they can see where you where you had an issue where you can figure out where to go and if you just clicked off the website, they're like wait why did that happen now they have all that data at their fingertips to see exactly where the pain point is and how they can fix it, and what it allows people to do is you can build software and or design. To fix the issue and see if it solves it immediately, you can get that feedback and then implemented on a wide scale using it with just one person. So it seamless communication, they gather feedback extremely quickly and they move projects forward as a result, and that's coming from people that work like the director of product design at Netflix uses envision. APP. And he said envision allows you to collaborate experiment and test much more effectively and efficiently that's going from Netflix's who by the way everybody uses in everybody's disappointed and lately because. I mean, we need more movies man. Come on, we need more moves we need more quality stuff to it's nobody noticed that the quality of movies in. TV shows I mean maybe we've just watched them all because Hashtag pandemic but I don't know I just I go on I go on both Amazon and Netflix And every single time I'm just like, wow either ever I've either seen all the good movies and TV shows or they're not making them anymore and I know there's more stuff out there. I don't know why they're not getting their hands on it but get on it event bright said freehand makes it a breeze to sketch draw wide frame and get instant feedback on work in progress designed. So what does that mean? What Freehand? Well, that's part of their APP or of their software that allows you to literally draw. Designs and see if they work know you can implement it so quickly and that's from the product designer eight product designers soon, die at event bright was at so many different responses from incredible product designer at Oetzi, beautiful collection, present designs, inspiration, and more. We use the boards to share initial goals and ideas show are you show the user flow and capture inspiration and that part a little buzzwords in their user flow? That is one thing that is critical for the for every company that is going to be implementing growth. In terms of online. If you're if you're launching a new website, a new APP and a new system in general, the user flow, you need to see how people are using your product and if it flows if if if everything is intuitive in, that's for instance, the reason I I work on music and I work in logic pro. Why? Why do I do that instead of any other? Music program it's because of the fact that it's so intuitive I look at it. And I'm like, this makes sense I go here you know. And I didn't go to music school for that or anything I if you look at it and you know what to do because it's intuitive and that's what everybody's going for the second you use an APP or use a website. I mean think about all those websites that are still up from those small businesses no offense small businesses I. Love Small Businesses we should support all small businesses but. You need to get your website game because I've seen websites from small businesses especially in my area that they look like they were designed in the early two thousands they do and nothing makes sense. You don't know where to go. It looks almost like a a some sort of collage that also is click -able but doesn't really work the way you want it to you can't find the information you want to, and this is an issue that a lot of people habits specially small businesses in the beauty with vision APP. Is that they allow you to set your plan according to your. Your needs as a business and according to your budget they they work with you on pricing because they understand that small businesses can't spend the same amount as hbo at c Net flicks etc. IBM. People can't do that but. What they need to do is implement this technology because there's so many websites I go on websites all the time on my computer lake nine to five constantly, and there are so many websites from small businesses that I just. I almost don't want to come into the business anymore because how bad their website is. It's just like I, or at least want to walk in their purchase something from them and then be like, Hey, you guys need to work on that website. That thing is terrible and I actually ran into a business. The other day that didn't have a website in two thousand twenty didn't have a website anyways. Envision APP. And Log rocket both do similar things. The difference is that. Long like I said, I think envisions better because log rocket does a little bit of this but it's more from a software engineer point of view and and. Envisions from both you know they're getting a Lotta users data and they have that interface where you can innovate on a daily basis. You can important sketch files or import. You're sorry import your existing sketch files or sketch in the APP you can design prototype an animate and collaborate seamlessly with your entire team, and this is all based well, not all based but a lot of it is based in the cloud you can access it anywhere. So I mean envision for instance, is a completely remote company, which means that everybody that works for the company. Either has the ability to work fulltime remote. Or does. In what they have offices in San Francisco as well is in Boston. But these guys just work remote because they've built an interface that works perfectly even if you're remote and their skyping daily base that there's zoom calls all sorts of stuff like that. But their systems are allowing people. To to. To leverage their designed system manager and innovate creatively on a very accelerated. Path a much larger scale. You can scale up tests on small base. There's one source of truth all brand and you X. components including uses, documents, and management single space. It's easy to maintain in a great. And There's really no reason to not. Using Vision. APP If you're in the modern era and if you're using web based interfaces, you have an APP if you have. A website, it doesn't matter. These things are changing the game on a daily basis. The are the APP is built by designers. To work for designers and to allow the fastest feedback. It's It's an unprecedented company that's doing so much for innovation of other companies I mean think about these big name companies, those those companies don't get involved. With. Other companies unless they're offering a product or system that optimizes their. Their system or their program or their web interface in such a way that it makes it indispensable. I mean, these are multimillion dollar deals that they're doing on a daily basis with companies like net fix IBM HBO etc etc. I mean this stuff is incredible. It speeds up the time of iterating of doing different iterations and getting feedback by an unbelievable amount. So let's just look at their website. What do they have for products while they have cloud prototyping cloud craft cloud inspect cloud-free hand, which is what we talked about earlier where you can literally draw studio design, an animate build and design systems DSM an enterprise business with design, and all these plans have different pricing. Some of them I was actually baffled by for instance, like you go plans. Designed for every team free, that's the first one free forever individuals and small teams, and you'd have up to ten active users up to three documents, unlimited public spaces, etc. after then you got pro, which is only seven, ninety, five, a month she can fifteen active users, unlimited documents, archiving unlimited public and private spaces, and that both of the both of those plans offer basically all of the. Applications other than the advanced team in management security which comes with enterprise enterprises the only plan that has that and what you'd be looking at. Matt. Case with enterprise is. A made for you pricing plan. So you reach out to them and they set the price. Per seat pricing no usury limit it's unlimited documents, unlimited public and private spaces Prototypes Freehand Boards Inspect Studio Rich Animated Screen Design Integrate Integration Sketch Photoshop Gyrus storybook in more you as far as collaboration goes, you can comment on the work that's being done in tweak it as a teams provide in context feedback on any document, and that is developers indispensable I mean in the code, they have comments sections or comment code so that you can see why someone did something. In this case, you're building the coat on more of an aesthetic level and you can see exactly what is needed. How you needed to interact, the public shares, links makes projects public. So anyone can view or comment guest guest permissions bring clients, interview what you're doing DSM build a documentation site in seconds There's the design systems management Dsm enterprise live components, version control, and privacy settings, and for advanced management and security teams. They have specialized admiral single sign on so and IP restrictions, auto provision, and deep provision via s see im Skim enhanced team security multi factor authentication authentication authentification. That's a cool word Enhanced user audit log logging, dedication dedicated customer success manager priority success like these are the things that they offer in. It's unbelievable. If you click in their enterprise page which I've been through this website a million times, it's such a cool company You just go down and they show you. Team member that can work with and and how I mean. We're looking at one hundred percent of fortune one, hundred US envision to align wait. I, just read for the first time one, hundred percent of fortune one, hundred US envision to align engineering and business stakeholders during the product design process. One hundred percent. So the best companies in the world are all using vision. It's it's innovation design is it's a team endeavor in the thing that actually weirded me out is when I talked to the guys over at log rocket is they hadn't heard about envision I was shocked because I mean log rocket is is a start up but if they're. Technically competitors. Envision already has one hundred percent of the fortune one hundred. How would you not know about them? anyways log rocket does similar things. But it's not nearly as far along for instance, if I type in log rocket over here. Let's go to this log rocket. Okay. And sorry if you're a little bit clicking in the background I'm just trying to get the information right in front of my face so that I can read right off their website so. So it's log rocket is more based around bugs. Log rocket lets you replay what you do on your side, helping to reduce bugs and fix issues faster, and they do have some pretty big customers Reddit AIRBNB NBC when I work Carfax but. The thing that confuses me is that they they that's just one feature of what envision does and these come this company is growing. It's in Boston it's growing pretty quickly. But I I just couldn't believe talked to them that they didn't know who envisioned. APP was it's like one of their main competitors. So. As far as a developer developer goes, this is built more specifically for you. Whereas envision APP is built for the wide variety of the team. We're talking designers we're talking marketing team with all this in log rocket works regardless of language or the frame, and we they provide. SDK's for specific technologies. integrates with tools that are used like century bugs, Snag Roll, Bar get hub travel. Oh Drift Zen, desk, intercom, gyrus segment, all those things so. That's log rocket and is envisioned APP. Obviously, I'm more infatuated with one than the other but that doesn't mean the other ones aren't good. So coming up next, we're going to talk about how you can smoke me with your phone and we're going to talk about little scandal tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts now, listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The Golden State media concept's podcast network is here nothing less than podcast list with endless hours of podcast Harvard's. From News sports music fashion, entertainment fantasy football, and so much more. So stop lurking around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to fill that podcast is. Whatever it may be visit us at www dot gs MC podcast dot com follow us on facebook and twitter, and download on itunes soundcloud and Google play. All right. So we've talked about hyper converged infrastructure. We talked about converged infrastructure. We've talked about envision APP, as well as log rocket. What's next? Well, we're going to talk a little bit about smoking meet with your phone and then stay tuned for some seriously scandalous. All right. So. You mentioned smoking meet. With his own. That is the weirdest thing. I have ever heard. In my entire life, is he off? The Wall what's going on with this guy? No, I'm serious. This is something that exists. And it exist because there's a wonderful company out there called traeger. And for those of you don't know I, Love Traeger I love smoking meat. I live down in Nashville for about four years and it opened me up to the absolute joy of barbecue the joy of having barbecue in your life, the joy of smoking meat. So, how do you smoke meet with your phone? Well, you can't do it without a traeger grill. And traegergrills are the best thing on the face of the planet. I am completely unbiased I don't love. Them I. Objective. I'm just kidding I love them and I use mine pretty much. Pray three times a week to cook ribs to cook fish to cook anything really I. Don't have the Wi fi one and that's what we're about to talk about which is. Trigger wife fire. Is the future of grilling. and. Luckily because drager exist it has arrived. You can take command of your grill from your couch or on the go with the new WIFI controller that connects to your smartphone to the grill via the traeger APP. So what it does is it brings the true power of the traeger grill to your fingertips in all you do is download the trigger where the also have recipes by the way. This company for being a company related to cooking is so tech like technology heavy there I mean they made. Little background about tracker so The founders wanted to make smoking meet more. More what's the word I'm looking for Manageable and user friendly for people who doesn't have all that experience like working for a barbecue restaurant or spending years learning how to smoke meat from their grandfather and their dad or whatever age like I I haven't smoked meat IDA had some smoked meat a lot in Nashville like probably too much gained fifteen pounds when I first moved there don't worry I lost it but here's the thing I didn't know how to smoke any meat not not even slightly I've seen it done I talked to people that smoke made. There's this place in just outside of Nashville. Nashville on Percy priest Lake it's called pop attorneys and by the way if you if you've been to Nashville And you've tried all the barbecue. You haven't tried the best barbecue until you've been to pop attorneys. Is, the best barbecue I've ever had in my life and the guy that runs it is an absolute joy. So is the staff they have a great blues Jim there it's the coolest ever in. It's right on the water. It's lovely anyways. So I talked to the guys there about how to smoke meat, but it's it's pretty complicated on Narain. I? mean. They they have these specific cuts of would they they use they have their specific process that they don't really divulge to anybody other than people that work for work for attorneys and it's extremely complicated and time intensive with traegergrills which by the way I got a I think last Christmas. and. I don't have the ultimate tech version with the wildfire. Version, which is enough for me I mean it's as simple as putting these wood pellets inside. and. It feeds it into this this trae or this bowl that sets them on fire and creates the smoke, and you can set your temperature on the dial like just like an oven. And there's a smoke setting as well as a like the different temperature settings, all of which get smoked, but you can turn it up to like a complete grill setting sound like if you go up to like three fifty, it's more of a grill than it is a smoker at that point but it's still smokes because that's smokey flavor I. Mean I made salmon the other day and it had this incredible smokey flavor it was on there for twenty minutes. And it got this great smoky flavor plus they give you the the rubs that go on it and these incredible recipes that I just loved. So with this APP that they have, it's got a grill guide to customize your cooking cycles in that means like you're you're leveraging their grill guide technology to help you master more different types of different types of which Palette should you use which pellet should you not use for certain types of meat which ruptured you use I? Mean they're very very clear about what you should. Use reach thing and what recipe and the even go into like these would pallets will work better with this rub that we also saw I mean that of course they all sound the weirdest part about it is that they sell these rubs and these pellets it's not weird guess per se sort of make sense but at first it was weird is apart from selling online they sell them at the hardware store like you can obviously get the trigger smokers there. So that makes sense that they'd be close but they have. They have. The trigger rubs and it's just weird like checking out with like a you're getting you picking up a hammer and some nails and then you're also picking up your. Your Barbecue Rav at the same place. It's just funny and these things price in there. Actually Pretty Pricey the ones that the wildfire technology, but you're looking at. Their. Pro Five seventy, five pallet grill All of these are going to be black and that one is the low the cheapest which comes in and around eight hundred dollars and then you have the ironwood six, fifty, Palette grow, which is a twelve hundred dollars and then. timberline series eight, Fifty Pellet Grill, which comes in at around eighteen hundred dollars. Let me tell you the the bigger ones I'm sure have a lot more surface area and a lot more tech tech built in. Let's just look at the Timberline, for instance. Click on this bad boy. Oh my gosh. These things are stunning and just thinking about how good my cheap model not cheap inexpensive model is I can't even imagine how good these things are. So let's see what the differences are for my thing. So mine is Oh Holy. Hell yet three different levels of. For proof grilling. And obviously you get the wildfire connection it's got. Own My Gosh Guys you have to see this just just type that in timberline. Series, eight fifty pellet grill. I i. need this I want it I need it, and then you get covers with it. Oh my gosh. So we're talking timberline D to controller WIFI technology timberline D to direct drive turbo Tampa Grill Guide three tiers of Stainless Steel grates oh? My Gosh I need that couldn't space double wall, stainless steel, interior pellet sensors, magnetic bamboo cutting board what that's. Included magnetic bamboo cutting I need this I need this whole thing concealed Greece magnet system management system concealed greased management system. Oh my gosh. So this thing weighs around two hundred and eight pounds that's actually pretty heavy I think it's a lot thicker than mine and it's fifty one inches high. It's got a twenty eight inch depth, any forty, six inch with it. It's just it's beautiful. So The next question would be what? In God's name. Are you talking about this for Jake? Well. The idea of traegergrills is to make it as. As manageable as possible I mean they're they're. They teach you how to smoke they teach you. How to Dougie they don't do that. They don't teach you how to Dougie, but they have these original wooden pallets. The traeger invented the original wood fired grill over thirty years ago. Wait what trager in. The original wood fired grill over thirty years ago. So there, I Malta imagined in Oregon and they continue to lead the industry as the world's number one selling wood fired grill perfected by decades of mastering the craft of woodfired cooking. The dreg grill will transform the way you cook because it creates consistent results every single time you your hunger for woodfired flavor with traeger in it's true I. Wish. I didn't buy into it so much. I feel like I'm gullible because I mean I I got it and I was like with God and then I try it on my own my gosh I made ribs for the first time on a smoker in they were fant better than I've had a lot of restaurants I mean granted I lived in Nashville. So I got some pretty pretty named good. ribs and barbecue but I'm telling you as far as consistency goes I put those babies on I put the RUB on. And they have their whole recipe built out. It's super simple. You take the ribs you put the Rub on them you put them on the grill with outside of Tinfoil you just put them in there for an hour spritz our spreads our take off, put some butter and brown sugar tin foil our face down done. and. If obviously, if you're not living at home like I am right now like working from home like I am now it's not like you can really do that. When you get home from work at six o'clock, you'll eat at ten thirty but. If you are in like if you're working from home like everybody is right now and or you just want a nice weekend. Delicious meal I mean they're the easiest thing to make time intensive obviously but not nearly as time intensive is traditional wood fired grills that. overpop- attorneys, those boys are going for twenty four hours on the lowest heat setting that you could possibly have and they're delicious as a result it fall off the bone but so do these. It's so easy and being from New England and living on the Cape Right now. There's not a single restaurant I can go to that I know of at least that that makes better. Grill makes better ribs than I make on my traeger and I'm not trying to sound conceited it's foolproof with this model. I mean this you you fill it, you set the temperature and then you put the meat on basically just forget about it and that's actually speaking of which set it and forget it. That's right on their website fuel. The fires are put pellets in, and then you set the temperature and walk away and you create this incredible flavors and the beauty of it is that they're using technology to give you more friends. At least me more people like eating my food is result and I've always loved cooking but this makes it's so easy to be like the Grill Guy. Oh. If you had shakes ribs. Oh my gosh they're so good like that's becoming a thing and it's all natural hardwood pallets and they move into the hopper or by an augur, which is one of those twisty things that feeds it in a at a steady rate. And it excited by the hot rod to feed the flames and add delicious woodfired flavor to your food. So we're talking taking technology and using it to give people better food and I'm telling you I, make ribs. Maybe twice a week. It's getting a little out of hand and I'm Gonna I'm trying different things now because I'm like I, this is like that time back. Back in. Like middle school or early high school where I ate so much captain crunch that I couldn't have it for the next ten years. I still haven't had captain crunch so I guess it's been more like I. Don't WanNa Count The years because I'm GonNa scare myself but it's been a long time. And I can't I can't even look at the boxes anymore and have it. So if I keep doing ribs, I'm afraid that's going to happen. So I had fish last night on the traeger grill and it was on believable but. The fire brings the flavor of food to forefront. So you're dealing with like it's not just like with all these different ways to cook into marinade I mean what? What what the fire does is like I've noticed it's just Really, it does it brings out the flavor of the food nothing no other cooking method I've ever used, and because it's natural, would I, mean it? It just makes it this very clean smokey flavor rather than like eating. Carcinogen. Food that's just GonNa kill me at some point But yeah I mean, it's just this technology is only getting better and it's so. Easy. It's so easy. I wish it wasn't as easy 'cause maybe I wouldn't make so much delicious food and I wouldn't have gained fifteen pounds since the pandemic art not fifteen well, I actually did gain fifteen but I lost it. I realized I got on the scale. And I was like wait a minute. Skill that we talked about by the way the. Body plus that we talked about last week I got him there and I was like. Let's see what the damages and I was about fifteen pounds heavier than I. Maybe more than twenty twenty, five pounds more than I was and then I just. started. Collecting that data and doing some damage control and your boy lost that weight in. That's good. You can lose that way. But not with the traeger grill, you can't lose it nearly nearly as fast as I could if I didn't have this easy way to to just. Cook Magnificent Food and Wiki we're you can cook anything from stake to chicken fish and actually they have recipes and the recipe book that you can use the APP. I prefer to have the hard copy but they have recipes where you smoke beats and stuff like that that they're hold smoke flavor a lot and you put it into alcoholic beverages in create that smokey flavor you know. So you don't have to have one of those smoke guns that they have those incredibly. Expensive. Bars and clubs you don't have to have a smoke gun you can just put. smokey. Vegetables in there as a nice little treat and It's it's out of this world. So. We've talked about a few things. I. My mouth is watering right now because I'm I'm thinking about. Making more ribs tonight because they're so good and using this traeger grill the US it's so easy. But so with the with the APP you can, you can monitor the temperature. You can monitor how long and keep track of it for for cooking purposes and Improve the way. You're cooking. That's the beauty of how they're using technology to improve. Your smoking. Game. and. I'm not talking about any other type of smoking other than smoking meet. All right. I do live in mass. So that means I could talk about it, but I'm not talking about it. So Talk about converged infrastructure, we've talked about log rocket and Envision? APP and we've also talked about traeger now. So what's next? Are you a business owner someone interested in the latest news that might affect Your Business. Then check out the GMC business news podcast a show dedicated to keeping you up to date on all things concerning business technology and the stock market. Get a head start on the day as we keep you updated on the latest going on on Wall Street money jobs and technology the GPS MC business news podcast has you covered. Right. So this next segment, we're going to talk about something that is pretty crazy and just happened actually two things that are pretty crazy ingest happened. Both of them are related to a company named after a fruit and founded by a man named Steve have. You guessed it yet if you haven't be a little worried. because I mean I've basically been handing this out to you on a silver platter. We're talking about apple and there's some crazy news that has just come out in the past couple of days in the past week. and. You're going to be pretty stoked to hear the stuff. So. Hopefully, you didn't skip to the end because you would have missed so much good stuff before. But if you did skip to the end, my name's Jake and this is the GSM see technology podcast brought to you by the GMC podcast network and today so far we've talked about hyper converged infrastructure. We have talked about envision apponaug rocket and we've talked about smoking meet with your phone and with the Traeger Grill the best company on the face of the planet that makes food. So easy to make. And what's next well. Apple? We're talking about apple. So what happened in the past What happened in the past week would so big that happened in the past week? Well, two things happened. Apartment is as pulling up the Internet right now we're looking at the fact that apple becomes first US company to reach two trillion market CAP, which by in and of itself is crazy, which is why they're splitting by the way they're doing mark or a stock split, and so as Tesla I'm still pumped to get involved in that I'm GONNA put my entire life savings into that thing because I love Tesla but we're talking about apple right now. So what happened with apple apart from them being like, Hey, we're gonNA split the stock and then Eland Musk one upping them by splitting at five ways instead of four what happened that? Well, two things happen one. Are you a Gamer because you've probably heard this news fortnight. Has. been kicked out of the apple store as well as the Google. Store the Google play store. Sorry. So why did that happen? Well, if you didn't know this, it might Kinda blow your mind a little bit but apple takes thirty percent of all subscriptions whether that's an in-app purchases and orcas purchasing a leap in the first by safety thirty percent. So if you're wondering, Hey, why is that? Why is that APSO overpriced wise this subscription so overpriced it seems like it's a lot more money than I should have to pay for something like this. Well, you can think apple and Google. Play because. They take thirty percent of whatever is in their store, and if you're wondering how they can possibly do that. I hesitate to mention the word monopoly In the same sentences, apple and Google because well, that has been the legal battle that they've been in or at least the the conversation that they've been in with Congress and everything they have an absolute monopoly Sodas Amazon for the same reason but in different. In different areas of the market but. All these guys I mean, these companies that have these platforms that are like basically stores they have a monopoly in the respect that like they can set prices and kick people out of their store and they can keep other people from innovating because they're like, Hey, if you're not willing to pay thirty percent, then stay out. But why did they kick fortnight out? Well, fortnight got really tired of biting that thirty percent bullet. So what did they do? They've basically tried to go. Around apple in in their own APP and around Google, and in their own APP, they offered a a separate payment option that basically went around apple instead of doing subscription in the APP store, and they were basically like listen if we can just do an in APP purchase system that earlier they snuck in and update for both iphone and android versions of the game that allowed users to pay epic directly for an inept purchase instead of using the official sanction system for both platforms. And according to the verge what followed was a wild ride apple kicked fortnight off the APP store. Then epic sued Apple, and finally there is an in game video parody of Apple's own nineteen eighty-four commercial positioning apple itself as the monopolist, and now Google is in a conversation in the conversation has with Apple Google requires that games use the Google play system for in-app purchases. Although the place stores rules are somewhat more lax than apple's when it comes to in-app purchases Google does draw the line. At Games, it's quite clear. Developers offering products within a game downloaded in the Google play. In Google play or providing access to the game content must use Google play in. APP billing. As method payment, Google system takes thirty percent cut just as apple does. So. Update earlier today, ran, afoul and. Google. Took longer to make the decision to ban fortnight over it but both companies resume conclusion. Later fortnight and they kicked them out. So many fortnight players that are viciously addicted to this game in this overall experience of the game. We're no longer able to To. Access it and which is brutal but the funniest thing is that they were ready they were ready with the lawsuit and they were also ready with that one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, four, commercial where the put apple in I just I'm sorry I find that so funny and so clever but it it really does show the foresight they were they were willing to risk it and they knew what was going to happen and instead of just like it's like begging forgiveness rather than asking. Permission except they're not really begging for forgiveness, they're just putting up middle finger where they show that apple is a monopoly and they're taking too much. But I think about all this compounding you wonder how did apple I mean they're selling iphones that are ridiculous price. They're not as much as they used to be, but they're still selling pretty I mean how much can really go into it. How much do you think it takes to make an iphone? Let's actually type that in right now. How much does it cost? To manufacture. An iphone. Let's see what we got here in. This will show how much they make it the first. Let's see priced at twelve, forty, nine says it cost apple four, hundred and forty-three manufacturer. That's not a shocking as I thought it would be but the figure comes from tech insights tear down in his less than fifty dollars more than the estimate of the last year sixty four. So they're new models are they're making a profit on each iphone? Of. Around. Math Math Matt eight hundred dollars. That's a lot of profit. At. Is a lot of profit. Obviously, we're not talking about advertising and stuff, but they I feel like they don't really need to advertise their iphones they just announced them and then people go crazy like they just they do that a steve jobs walks out in his in his turtlenecks shared in announces the iphone how it's going to change the world recipes and and then people just go crazy foaming at the mouth to get to the apple store to buy the next iphone because it has sixteen cameras on it now. Instead of one but I mean I'm not I'm not making fun of I love Apple. I stick with apple, but it's so funny they don't really need to advertise them they just. Although they. Do you know what I mean? anyways. So they have a stockpile of cash from that, but there's no way they could get as much cash as they have in the bank from just that could they? Think about it every single. APP. That, they don't invest in. Sorry they don't like. They're not spending rnd. They're not making the APPS themselves they're just Hosting a store where people can put them in their developers can make apps and have people buy them, and then they take thirty percent. So say for instance, if you have beach body, if you're into p ninety x and you got the beach body APP, fourteen dollars a month, they're taking thirty percent of that. If you have Pimm slurred language APP that I talked about before it cost twenty dollars a month they're taking six dollars of that six or seven in between every single APP. Some APPS have a lot higher cost them. Any of these if you'RE A. If you're a photographer and you use these photo editing APPS, they're taking thirty percent. There are millions of APPs maybe not millions I don't know how many apps there are how many apps of the how many let's get the answer this is a fun fact for you how many apps are there in the? Apple APP, store. Check this. Out. Two point two million, there are millions two point two, there are two point eight apps available for download on Google play store and two point two APPS available in the Apple Storm. Wow that's a lot of APPS. So two point two. And think about how many? Are. Monthly. Subscriptions. I mean the numbers I mean it's just a residual income where they're taking in money having to do anything to earn it. That's so much money. Let's Let's see if we can get to the bottom of this how I'm wondering how much. Subscription. Income does. Apple Make Let's see. According to apple there are over four, hundred, fifty, fifty, million. Paid subscriptions on Apple's platform. Wow in two thousand and ten. That's a while ago ten years. Let's just go back there. Why not? Apple Service business revenue generated. Only five, only five, point, two, billion in revenue over the next two years it doubled to ten point, two billion and that was two years doesn't twelfth. That was eight years ago. That they were making ten point, two, billion, it's revenue but I mean how much if they're not developing like how much do they? Really you know. It's revenue, which if they're not spending on it, it should be all profit or close to all providence. They have to cover expenses for operating in everything, but that's a a boatload of money every single year that they don't have to do a lot other than hosting these APPs and and helping them put in the updates but we're talking billions and billions of dollars taking from this. Thirty percent from these guys and it's it's wild at this came out. Okay. So fortnight's out of the apple store. Everybody's upset about it. What else are we talking about? Well. There's a wrapped in the room new apple leaks reveal iphone twelve. Lease. Shock. Okay. So according to Forbes Apple admits the IPHONE twelve release is running late. But it now looks like the weight will be longer than the company suggested. This isn't what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is the fact that the iphone is kind of reverting back to what it used to be. What do you mean by that? You remember when it had like the IPHONE was five, it had that. That right side that was made of metal well. That's what it might look like. Now it's not definite but there were pictures that have been leaked showing off how apple. Should change its familiar flagship designed for this year, and that is to go with the old model, the new iphone twelve release date, and price and specs. And leaks. So it's Kinda look a lot like that. Silver Medal side is anybody else upset because I'm kind of upset. I liked how clean it was looking like. where it was going as far as direction I mean and honestly, I feel like we've been disappointed by apple because we expected that in all this time they could have come out with something that would blow her mind I will say though that if you haven't tried out the iphone eleven, I don't own one I have an iphone X.. If, you haven't tried it out. The camera is ridiculous and I'm not just talking for taking pictures and video like when when people walk while taking video, it looks because of the three cameras. It has a reductive image. So I basically takes the corners and makes it look like if you're walking with your camera instead of it being a bumpy lead from it's it's the this fluid image that looks like a drone is taking the video and I've seen someone run with it and it still is insanely fluid. So that is one positive but what I was expecting personally. Is like this it's getting smaller and smaller, but then it was getting bigger and bigger, and now we're at a point where we don't know where they're gonNA go. But what I have been upset with his way back in twenty to twelve or thirteen there were these new releases about gorilla glass company that was potentially going to be partnering with Apple and Gorilla Glass had invented this. Type of technology that was that was basically everything was embedded in it and it looked it was like a see through piece of glass that was a computer basically and and I expected at this point that we would ever see through iphone and we don't And I'm upset. About it. So. What should we expect? With the apple reveal. IPHONE twelve range It's going to be announced next month. And they say it's going to have five G. which is going to give everybody cancer, which is Great. They also said that it's going to be five point four inch iphone it's going to be. Five point, four, nine, inch iphone. The six point one, inch iphone twelve Max and six, the iphone twelve pro equal the size of the carrying iphone. While the iphone twelve pro Max will be apples large I phone yet at six point, seven inches across. So it's getting bigger again, but it's GonNa look like that it's going to have that metal side which I don't know if it's a good idea. Is that clean side? The the funny thing is though I sort of saw it coming because the fact that. The the more curved you make. The phone itself on the side, the less space you have to fit things. So they can't they have to reduce the size of everything which we want them to do. We want them to get smaller and smaller so we can have smaller. Things like that I mean think about it you're going to have. All this wearable tech that needs to I mean they need to make everything smaller so that we can have where more wearable tech that is less and less noticeable. The Apple Watch is incredible by itself but like imagine having wearable tech that you didn't notice your clothes like this is where it's going but they want to have more space and if since you're holding a phone, anyways, it doesn't matter if it's a little bit you know. Bigger if they can fit a chip in it. You know so. The leaks that we had this week. They could be true leaks come out before every single launch and sometimes they're sometimes they're not I for one hope they're not true. I hope that they come out with something. That's really cool. But it's delayed because pandemic hashtag pandemic. anyways. So we've talked about a lot. We've talked about converged infrastructure hyper converged infrastructure. We've talked about envision APP log rocket. We've talked about smoking me with your phone and wildfire. We've also talked about the apple leaks which may or may not be true and we talked about how funny it is. They take thirty percent in how fortnight is now kicked off the APP. That's it for this episode tune in next episode and what are we gonNA talk about we're GonNa talk about Nikola or a smart ring wearable ESPN plus and Disney plastic and something related to a NASA space helicopter. What. Well You'll have to wait till next week to hear that one on Monday. My Name's Jake Durkin it's been a pleasure. 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Testudinology (TORTOISES) with Amanda Hipps

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Testudinology (TORTOISES) with Amanda Hipps

"Oh, hey, it's out lady in front of you, the grocery store who didn't realize she was holding up the line because she's reading a magazine alley ward. Okay. This is kind of two episodes of allergies because over the next two weeks. You're gonna get up close and personal with those wizened slowly ambling boulders tortoises and turtles and sea. Turtles one is their deal. Why do they live to be one million? Do they need us to save them? Are they missing throats, or just introverts, etc? Etc. But before we take a deep dive in a turtle borough, and we will kiddos per usual. Thanks to all the friends on patriot dot com slash algae's. Who helps support the making the show and contribute? So many good questions for the logistics. Thanks to everyone who is buying shirts and totes and hats on al-ajiz merch dot com. Thanks to all the new subscribers. Hey, and folks leaving ratings and even reviews, which you know, I read like your grandma going through old birthday carts like this week this one. From put a Burke on it says, this is the type of binge worthy podcasts. It makes you sit in your driveway after a ninety mile commute home from work at four AM. Just because you have to finish the episode. Not that I've done that. Okay. Yeah. I have a say so thank you put a break on it. Thanks to anyone who's ever left a review if you've written one, I've read it, and it made me happy. Probably. Okay. So turtles who boy? Howdy. Are you to fall the hell in love with turtles? Okay. Over the next two weeks. Turtles will be digging a gentle borough in your heart where they will sleep like little cozy potatoes for the next. I don't know one hundred forty years. So this week is Testudo -nology which comes from the Latin Testudo for tortoise, and I was introduced to this Testudo knowledge issed through reptile hero, Dr David Stein. Who you may remember from the herpetology episode. Remember him right dope. I was like Steen. You got new turtle people and he was like hot damn do. I and. He introduced me to want him his favourite turtle people on maybe planet earth. She did her undergrad at the university of north Florida. She had an internship at the Jacksonville zoo animal hospital and is now getting her masters at Florida Atlantic university studying gopher tortoises, and what critters share their Burrows and doing some digging. It turns out that her tortoise love goes way way back. So we talk about turtles versus tortoises versus Terrapins. What's up with those big heavy shells there toting and how team turtle is affected by humans her feelings on teenage mutant ninja turtles. They're very crazy anatomy, let's say and how they live so long and more. Also, I feel I must warn you that these two turtle interviews this week and next I'm a little too excited about turtles was just legitimately very earnestly pumped, but pull up a stump. And have a sit for the infectious dedication. Of tortoise advocate wildlife, biologist and Testudo Logist. Amanda hips. Okay. So welcome. Hello. Thank you. Welcome to LA. Now where are you from? I'm from Florida from south Florida more like fishermen town Stewart, did you grow up going to beaches a bunch or romping and swamps where you'd be okay, I was mostly like I liked the beach. It's it's fine. But I mostly I was in the woods or this month. And so yeah, that was kinda my family, really loved hiking. So that was a lot of what we did this hike. What are the Florida swamps? Like, take me to those smelly. Great. I love him. She loves a smelly swamp. How much do you like her already so much? I don't think I've ever been in a proper swamp. Oh my gosh. You had to come. Yeah. So yeah. So just even like hiking in a slump it's called slogging. And I love it. And I don't know. It's just it's like kinda is super creepy. Like, I you never know what you're gonna bump into there's alligators and snakes and just tons of mosquitoes, which is maybe the most unpleasant part of all of it. But I don't know. It's just like a very mysterious place in it's like, very little hikes. There's not too many people that you'll run into there is anybody out there. Hello. My name is Mallory how in danger of getting chomped, are you? I you just have to watch where you're going. Yeah. It's you know, just be cautious in. But I've never had it. I've never really liked bumped into alligator. And they're so scared like, they're usually they usually kind of disappear if they see you coming, but you have to be careful. What's the craziest shit you've ever seated swamp? I'm sorry. I'm going to just start another podcast called swap talk. I love it. I got a really cool picture when I was in the small of a cotton mouth. And here's just challen and cotton mouths are the ones that can they can fight your bad. Right. Yeah. They can they are venomous in. So those are the ones that everyone. They see like a a dirty hose at a gas station. And they're like God. Yes. That's yeah. That's exactly. Suicide note if you've listened to the herpetology episode with Dr David Stein, you may remember the hash tag, not a cotton mouth in which he educates. The public about the snakes that are frequently in fact, not cotton mouse, and he sometimes educate someone so hard that I am in a good mood for days afterward. He owns them. Do you think that your swamp dumping kind of contributed to your wanting to be a herpetologist of some kind? Yeah, absolutely out. What's crazy is that I I never considered being a wildlife biologist actually like going to school and dimmer undergrad. I was so lost. I knew I wanted to work with wildlife, but I didn't really like exposure to any of the sciences. And so I kind of just thought like I want to work with animals, I should probably go to that school. And that's kind of the guidance that I got like, I think that's what everyone told me. It was just go to that school. No one ever really suggested. Like what you like will be a wildlife biologist. Okay. Buckle up for. A winding backstory the proves no one's life is linear. And that is beautiful an awesome. So I started I did my entire undergrad kinda just gearing it towards going about school. And that's really like I planned my entire life around vet school. So I did all of my undergrad courses with that. And I ended up working for the Jacksonville zero as an intern at the Jacksonville animal hospital. I know it was so great. It was very cool. It was very hard in some circumstances. It was dealing with mostly wildlife and native wildlife doing rehab, and then releasing so it was pretty cool. But I was dealing a lot with gopher tortoises. Most of them word hit by cars. Oh, yeah. And so it was really awful euthanizing a whole bunch. Quick rundown. So gopher tortoise territory is in the eastern southern United States, but most remaining gopher tortoises are in fact Floridians so there are about a foot long there between eight and twelve pounds. The ladies are bigger. Hello. And they have these strong scaly legs that are like alive garden trowels. And Amanda was also helping rehab injured tortoises working sometimes remotes with individuals whose shells had been split until they healed and then releasing them back into the wild. But that didn't seem like enough. She was like, dammit. I love these little MO photos. I feel like I should try to figure out how to help them in other ways. I would really like to get to know from like the wildlife perspective. I started kind of like reading about gopher tortoises just was fascinated by them what kind of game. Do these gopher tortoises have how does it go for tortoise slowly borough its way into your? Your heart. I don't know. It's so crazy. I think it was more just feeling like they were so many that are coming in. And I I don't know. I don't know how they did it. They do that. As far as like, really how they stole my heart. I'm really not sure how that happened. So you started reading reading about them in your own. No, I've become obsessed with God. I. Yeah. I don't know. I started just like looking into them because I was like, oh, they're what's called a keystone species. And that's where I started learning all about gopher tortoises north is this really incredible animal, and I was learning about their Burrows and how so many other animals will share their broS and oh really important ecosystem. Yeah. So they have stowaways. Yes. Is that what a keystone species as not necessarily know? Okay. Oh, like the beaver is considered an ecological engineer keystone species because their rear engine habitat. They're taking these trees through building dams their altering hydrology of rivers, and that's like ultimately affecting the wildlife. It's coming. It's acting the entire ecosystem same thing with the gopher tortoise. They dig these massive boroughs, though, they'll be they can be up to forty feet long their Burrows or that tortoise. There aren't gonna just really stretch limousine tortoise. And what are we getting hit man and things for long? Okay. So their Burrows can be just like catacombs. Yeah. They dig these massive boroughs their their size of the tortoise shape of it is just like a tortoise, but they can be up to forty feet on average. They're like fifteen to twenty like, I've definitely seen ones that are bigger him. So side note, I just went and looked up videos of these turtles with these Donka butts just flinging say on like little machines behind them. It's the adorable list. The boroughs are kind of like if you had a tortoise silhouette from behind that was cookie cutter that you just bored. Deep into a hillside. Like, would you? Alluded total. These other animals are using it there some species that like have just co evolved with them and have art are fully reliant on them. I want to live in a gopher tortoise borough to more spacious than my apartment in Los Angeles to be honest, like square, footage wise. Yeah, tam. But then you have always remains. That's true. There's moles and like weevils things just coming in like you ever been. So you started learning that they're this keystone species because the work that they do let's other animals kick it with them. There were like they're the kind of people that like buy a big house in Tarzana. And they're like pool party on Sunday come over and literally that's exactly. So they do they do this is what a party looks like I made end like it's off. It's it's used for many, different reasons. Some of them are like some animals are coming in to feed. Some of them are coming to. She's just like for reproduction. There's a number of insects, which is actually what I'm studying that are living in these Burrows, and they're fully relying on the gopher tortoise. But they also have this mutual Listrik relationship whether feeding on dung, so they're like a house keeping service. With your maids like eight year, garbage. They come in clean it. They're eating just living in their life in rolling around and shit. There. It's it's not just any dung beetle though. It's like they're very specific. They're only eating poop. They might be eating poop, but they're really particular about whether like what kind of. Was like this is fascinating. And then just researching it I found that at my university university of north Florida. There is an adviser those studying them professor there. I'm Joe Butler. And so I contacted him. And I was like hey heard you're doing some field work with gopher tortoises. Can I jump in on this? I volunteer tribute. Yeah. That's kinda just how I got started. And then that's when I was like there's this whole field of wildlife biology. Oh my God. What am I doing here? So Amanda had been working on projects studying the reproductive success of gopher turtles, and she still had plans to go to vet school. She even applied and she was accepted, but she just like gay. She's wasn't really sold on it. And just being like like, I don't think I want to go. I don't really want to work with cats and dogs. And so I haven't gotten involved with with like exotic animals like working with out about in Colorado, and he worked mostly with reptile. And I just still I really didn't like it. I was like I don't wanna be. An hospital. I really wanted to be outside. So that's such a difference. I guess like having your parking spot and your coffee mug, and like, you know, where you're going to sleep. You know, what time you're waking up verses some people probably couldn't handle what I'm now calling swamp. Romping? We're like, you know, borough recording whatever like, I guess it really depends on on what kind of lifestyle you want. Right. Exactly. How clean you want? Your knows that. It's so true. I wanted to be dirty. It's true. I didn't love working inside. I liked working with animals, but I didn't really love the work itself. So that's like, okay. I don't wanna do this anymore. And so I went to Madagascar, and that's not that's not Florida. Look, you're like by Florida inch Madagascar and kind of got on to this, internship, whereas studying reptiles, but mostly snakes, and I was amazing. It was a really really great experience. And that's really what got me into lake. It was like this is it this is the best that I felt near like echo therms are my people. Yeah. Are they active therms? They are. Oh, mad for a second. My brain froze. And I thought I got that wrong. And I was mortified but. Yes. Yes. Okay. Of course, turtles are active with arms that means. They rely on external sources of heat, which is why you'll see turtles just basket on a log like pasty Florida spring breakers. And also why it's so. Portent to dig out Burrows, which are pretty much like walking into an air conditioned movie theater in July, but darker and full of dirt and cool bugs that eat your PU when you are starting to get obsessed with turtles like what kind of books, are you reading what kind of chat groups are you in what kind of group tax talk to me about the turtle world. Honestly when it comes to connecting with people in the turtle world. It's social media, really. Yeah. Twitter Instagram is Twitter. Twitter. I mean, there's so many like turtle groups on Instagram. What? Okay. When you say turtle groups are these like the sea. Turtle people the tortoise people, the turtle people. Okay. So they're all like, yeah. I kind of think if you're a turtle person urine tortoise person vice versa. All right. That's a good segue because we need to get to this right now. I should've asked what is the second. You walked in the door. Hurdle versus tortoise. All right. What's the deal? Okay. Well, tortoises art hurdles, okay? They are turtles, but they're just adapted to living life on land. So their limbs are different their legs are built for walking and digging. So a sea turtle really should have should a sea. Turtle have a different name like a circle that way at third a like a like a turtles like just like, a whatever we're all turtles. And then you're fully see your circle, you're fully land your tortoise, your maybe a little bit of both your turtle. But you're all. Turtle. I think we need to talk about this. And he's to me changing me. I mean, I just feel like let's get specific about turtles keeps me. Some just overall anatomical facts about turtles because here's the thing about turtles. We know their stuff going on under that shell. Yeah. Like what is happening under that shell? It's like if there's a silver dome. Over a platter of food, and it's just a mystery cloaked in fancy armor. We don't know what kind of organs. Do they have five parts how many butts do they have do? They even have a liver. Like what's going on in there? Okay. Well, yeah. I know that it's that. That's where it all happens. The party is under the ship. So with the shell the the ribs and his finer like built in to the show to the top of the show. So it's part of it. So tortoise can't leave it shell. I mean that is everything a lot of people really do think just walk off in finding new on if they're growing will there's some flimflam we debunked. Yeah. They're stuck with that shell for life, and how how is it growing? Okay. So the shell is bone. Oh, yeah. It's bone. And then it's just it has the cover a carton is covering Carrington. I'm so it's like, our fingernails or hair, but it's bone. And so it's growing with with the tortoise. Oh, yeah. And so it's basically like you can age tortoise by looking at the shell. And it's got rings on the on each of the scoots in. So it's basically like like trying to age a tree. Oh my God. Yeah. So each skewed which is like those per K floor tiles, kind of gets a new ring every year. Yeah. Is that partisan is that partly because of conditions like in a tree like the rings happen. When there's a lot of water growth -actly is it some sort of seasonal so it really does depend on location. So if you're further north like the gopher tortoises further north, they are very seasonal. They do have a winter they're disappearing into the borough during the winter, they're not eating for months and Ernest underground still. Still hardly like one beat a year. Probably the lowest metabolism ever. Live so long PS not only is next week's episode about sea-turtles aka circles, but you wanna hold onto your butts my friends because in researching fucked attornal gets how old I came across an apology called Biogerontology and the best bio gerontologist in the world. Dr Caleb Finch is based in LA hot damn yes, we recorded an episode on aging. So stay tuned for that the week after sea turtles also the material tortoiseshell, which has been banned in many places was most commonly made from skews of the hawksbill turtles, which are sea turtles and not tortoises. So not only is it mean. But it's also factually incorrect a lot of time. Okay. Back to tortoise shells, which are the spine in the ribs all fused together into a dome that says don't even try to touch me, you jerks. And so they have ribs that are fused to the bone of their shell crack. And then what else is kind of guts? They got everything is just under under that shell. What are their what do they have crazy hearts or do? They have like like is their reproductive system. Indoor outdoor kinda plummet is happening. So with with this for tortoises, you can flip them over and they're the bottom. Their belly the bottom part of the show is called a plan drawn. So you look at the posh, Sean, and that's probably the best way to tell. So males going to be going to have a dip. Oh, and then the females can be flat. Okay. So the male just has got a concave. So he can fit on top of the female got it. Yeah. Like nesting bowls, exactly. I shouldn't ask us so early on. But I'm just I'm I'm ready for this question. I think it's coming. Do. They have crazy Dixon. Okay. Have you saw is to send me a video of like, a turtle making love to a shoe. And I was like what? What is that? And I I don't understand what's happening. What is it? By the way, those noises were from a turtle making love to a crocs shoe in a YouTube video entitled a turtle makes love to a crock shoe so cursory. Search returns were almost two copious also including other hits such as turtle makes love to a sneaker. Turtles sex with a shoe? And another involving a brief, but impassioned romance with a rollerblade. Now, if you need a visual for this part of turtle anatomy, how do I think of an artichoke heart, but long stemmed and stripped of all the leaves but alive and throbbing it's a lot so K. Yeah. No. That's I still look at it. And I'm like what? So it's their incredible. I mean, okay. All right. Let's start from from day one. Okay. Quite often when we're doing research with that. And we have to Mark them. We have to wear them measure them in. So they will they will expose for us. I think it might just be like just displacement just kind of. I don't think they or send comfortable in what's going on there. Like, I'm uncomfortable. Awkward what would help a Boehner? So they display as a greeting. Yes. And so, yeah, they're they're Dick's are massive. They can be they're huge. And they have to be big because you know, the shell gets in the way, it's just hard to accents females makes it hard. So they need to they need to be big. But it can be up to like half the size of like their shell. And oh my God. What? Yes, it all stored inside. Let's just it's like, so what happens is when it retracts inside the quake. It's just it it likely is on top of itself. And then they whip it out and then put out. Then they have tortoises. So it's different for doesn't. It's different for species. So with tortoises, it's so strange. It looks like a flower. That's what I thought. Pancake. Yeah. It's very odd. But that what what is how does that behoove them? I mean because that's got to be more than just distance. Why a hockey puck on a stem or like why why a weird inverted mushroom like what is it? Yeah. Okay. I'm honestly, not sure how that evolved because it's different for different species. So like soft shell turtles. They have five lobes sellers. There is even more crazy looking in. Not sure why they need that. Of course. I looked this up and yes has five lobes with like, let's just say four nozzles and the textbook line drawing. I saw looked kind of like an abstract outline of an orchid, which is fine. But then you imagine it alive and greenish purple. And you know, what let's actually let's not do that. Okay. Let's get just back to the romance of it. Do they mate for life? Are they friends for a long time? Or is it just like I'll see you next Tuesday. So we don't I don't think we really know the answer to that. They do what we do know is that they have, you know, we always think of tortoises as being solitary animals in not having friends or talking. Oh, not. Yeah. Know anybody that's really not the case, really. I have found as far as like studies with gopher tortoises go, and I'm sure it applies for you know, other North American tortoises, but they have cliques they have like these. Yeah. Just they have friends. I I don't know if I don't know if we can call them friends, but what's what we have found is that the females will travel to like hang out with other females. So. It's, but the interesting part is that you know, they they're not just hanging out with any with any other female there. Visiting the same ones ends they might travel farther to go see a female that maybe I don't know. Perhaps they connect with them. I'm not really sure what's going on there. But they they're, you know, if there's a female directly next door, they're not they might not like her. I'm not sure what's going on. Okay. I'm pretty sure what's going on is that these turtles have friends there. Either friends or their drug dealers pop by the boroughs and so same with same with males. No, I don't think that that's anything that they saw. So males are visiting female. Oh, but they if there's another male around they're pretty territorial. So there'd probably there aren't really not hanging out with other guys who's digging all these boroughs, everybody. Really? Yeah. They all have their own. They all have like their own, and maybe a couple maybe summer home and a winter who so yeah, they might have more than one. And they they might go in there. Ten twelve feet. Stay there on their own and then come out during the daytime mostly. Yes. So they spend like probably over eighty percent of their time underground they come out to to meet another tortoise that is hanging out. So I'll see the males will they work so hard they're going from borough to borough female, the female, and they will bother head and try and get her to come out of her burrow. And this happens all day long, so horny politicians Canada thing. So terrible. I feel bad for the females because they're just like if they don't they don't want anything to do with just like they can't come out talking. But at least they have a good escape. So even if they're out of the bro and their grazing, and they don't want anything to do with the male Bill just take off and head back to burrow knock him off in this all year round. Or are they seasonally Horry? So. Well, I really I believe that if if it wasn't cold, it would be all your aunt. So in south Florida where I'm working right now, they're at least courting all year round. So I don't know. I don't think we really know beyond that. But they are courting. So I don't know if they're double nesting. We're not really sure what's going on there from what I understand double nesting means having another nest in the same breeding season kind of like when you find out that your grandpa has a second family. He hid for decades, except it's your mom, and it's a bunch of siblings. Also, okay. Let's get back to the nomenclature because this still feels a little murky kinda like swamp. Water to me. Okay, turnovers tortoise so turtles are partially aquatic. Like, they'll go dip into a pond forbid comeback up. What's there? Lawlor enter pounce on what we're talking about. If we want to talk about like box turtles, they are mostly land turtles, but they're not on tour. Oh shit, man. This down. Break it down. I don't get it. So why they're mostly land. But they're a little bit aquatic is at the difference. Or is it just because their legs go out more than they go down there. Still like near water. They just aren't very good swimmers. No good. Oh, they'll still hang out in water. So like in shallow areas, but they're not really swimming. Very well as if you were to look at like a slider recruiters and things like that. Does that disqualify them from being a tortoise because sometimes they take a dip? I think it really comes down to how closely related they are. Oh that makes him sensors. Actual like evolutionary lineage. We'll talk to me a little bit about the evolution of turtles and tortoises. Because I know that a lot of people are hung up did they outlasted dinosaurs. When did the planet developed hurdles when did they split off into sea turtles and tortoises? Can you walk me through some of that? I can try. Okay. So I I don't think we really have solid answers for any of that. But the. The theory. One theory is that the link to turtles was a lizard that. I think it's called the union to Soroush. It's a stout lizard short legs like a tortoise body. But without the shell there are borough hours and thera I guess a little bit slower just their build. And then from there there is a turtle that didn't have a shell. But it had like a plaster on. So the posture on is the bottom part of the shell the belly. But it didn't have a full shell the benefit of the shell is protection. Mostly. Yeah. I'm not sure that that's why it evolved it might have been for digging. That was my other question is this like a because if they make their burrow in the shape of themselves is it just like a kind of a cool bore into a mountain or is it more. Like, hey, I'm withdrawing please do not bother me. We don't know. So it it could have been not it was. For for burrowing for digging. And then it sort of just ended up being like a form of protection so up into a few years ago. We thought turtles went back about two hundred and twenty million years until a paper came out in two thousand sixteen about this two hundred sixty million year-old lizard in South Africa, the developed a shell scientists believed for the purpose. Just a burrowing the protection just a bonus kind of like a shovel that you're like, oh, hey, look at how can also use it as a shield PS the person who discovered the proto turtle fossil was then eight year old Koba Snyman and also just a hammer this home so turtles include tortoises and sea turtles and Terrapins which are smallish turtles that live in fresh or brackish water. Although in the UK turtles mean water pals tortoises mean land friends, so it's kind of regional where do turtles and tortoises sleep at night. Well, it depends on the species. Okay. Tortoises like the gopher tortoises are native to the coastal plains of the United States. So they're using boroughs. They're going to be underground the other North American species like the desert tortoise out here. They are hiding out under some of them do have short boroughs. They're also hanging out like under rocks or things like that. Mar they so God damn cute. I said about a turtle like who doesn't trust a turtle. Do you know what I mean? I k- I I will amend that. Because I did see a picture of an alligator turtle. And I was like oh my God. Thank god. I love this thing is like this thing has a hell mouth what's happening with it. It is terrifying suicide note. Okay. The alligator turtle is not a tortoise, but it is a nightmare. So imagine a stout. Turtle the largest ever recorded said to tip the scales at over four hundred pounds, and it has three ridges along its back like giant punk rock studs and then its mouth ho its mouth, y'all. Okay. Spiky beak that could crush bones and a little worming do Hickey Dingle dangle on its tongue that lures alive fish into its mouth these things look like if the biggest dude on the football team had anger issues and also falcon beak and was made out of wet kelp have you ever seen? They have them in Florida. Yeah. Really they're like they're like like very like northern Florida. Okay there. I did a little bit of research for them for the food policy upset we talked about turtle soup, and they talked about like obtaining inside looked it up. And I was like oh my God. What is that that looks like God's Dingle berry get it out of here? What is it? What does it? But other turtles are so adorable are now how big can turtles get. Well, if we're talking about tortoises, there's the Galapagos tortoise, which is the largest, oh isn't the largest? I think I believe those, and then I'll d'abre, and then this look the African slow cata it's like the three largest that are extent that are living today while circles can reach two thousand pounds the biggest tortoise ever recorded. It seems was a fellow named collide with who weighed over nine hundred pounds but passed away in two thousand two also dead lonesome, George a pinta island Galapagos turtle who was the last of species and the longtime George Clooney of tortoises eligible but single lonesome George despite trying sadly never produced any offspring passed away in two thousand twelve of natural causes. He was found by his keeper of over forty years. Fausto Urania Sanchez who's a park ranger who retired not long after. His death. And he said I feel like I've lost a best friend does avoid and there's a sorrow especially when I see the photos in my heart. I'm not convinced. He's dead. But he's dead. I mean, he was Taxidermied put an omega Siham. So he's he's pretty dead now alive, and perhaps the oldest living land animal is a tortoise named Jonathan who has doubled cataracts. But a pretty good sense of hearing at one hundred eighty seven years old hundred and eighty seven years old. Yes, you heard that. Right. Do turtles have ears. What's the deal? Oh, wow. So they I wouldn't call him ears. Okay. What is the term for it? They are called nub ins. Really, I'll give them a call them Knubben. Okay. It's mostly through vibration, is how they're hearing are it's national so yeah, you're not seeing an ear if you were to whisper to turtle how much you liked it. Do you think it could hear you? I I don't know. Okay. All right. I looked up and they are not sadly called nothi-, but rather Tim panams which is a disc membrane at the back of the face. Now. Khuda turtle hero. If you whispered how much you love it. I looked into it. And probably so in one paper that lamented the lack of auditory knowledge of turtles. I did find that what is known is at turtles have a higher hearing threshold than other reptiles with best frequencies heard around five hundred Hertz now, according to SATA lofts comprehensive textbook of otolaryngology. It is noticed that annoys banned for whispers begins at five hundred hurts so yes, whisper your love at your tortoises, if you have tortoises, I know. I know that like with my tortoise. He wait a second. Oh god. You have a tortoise. Hey. Oh my God. Wait, what this was a huge revelation. So your tortoise owner your tortoise Lord. I hate antics hiding who is he oh, my boy or girl, the boy, okay? His name is Banji. His name is bench e. Yeah. Named him. When I was seven. Oh my gosh. She's so old. He's well, you're so young. How did you obtain him? Oh my gosh. It's a terrible story. So and I don't encourage it. Okay. This is why I don't really talk about him. Okay. I'm actually it's it's a good. It's is it a cautionary tale. Yeah. Did you buy them on the black market? No. I did get him from a pet store. Okay. So I happened. I. Yeah. Well, okay. So I was a little girl. Seven an early member. It's probably like around town and. As like dad really wanna toward it. It's like, I begged my father for tortoise. And so he was like on board with that. Because he's like, it seems like alien animal. Yeah. Garo nobody else. So we went to the pet store. I picked out a tortoise it was relatively large. But I mean, I don't want to say large. He probably like. He's probably like three years old. He was like like probably like five inches, which is pretty small in. So he was already he wasn't like a tiny quarter size tortoise. He was already doing sing. He probably had like a routine personality. He had a thing. And so you took him home. And you're like, I'm a tortoise owner were you did you. Could I got and Kaci freaked really she started. She was like what is that? And she got on the computer and started looking up like Africans locate a tortoise, and she's like she faked out on my dad, so these get laureate, huge huge, and they live forever. So she's like during her research and she like freaked out of my dad water, we doing we're just adopt in the thing that's going to outlive our daughter, and so we they we just we did it. They did it. They wanted to keep him. We all phone with him. And he's he's definitely been a part of the family for you know, for like much of my life. How big is he he is probably about one hundred twenty five pounds. Wait a second. I feel like he's still growing. I don't know. But I really hope he's not wait. How big is that like is it the size of a coffee table half the size of coffee table. I mean, she looked down at my coffee table. A wooden slab that is fifty one inches long. I measured it later. Okay. I'm looking at your coffee table. Okay. I'm thanking three-quarters. Oh my God. That's a huge problem maybe half. Okay. So we're talking about in half. We're talking like this is like a cafe table. Yeah. He's a huge tortoise. He's pretty big. Where does he live in my backyard? Let's see he heals with my parents still. Okay. He's hey, okay. Grass. He grazes. Yeah. It's not an easy pet though. So he has a pretty good league space, but he needs a lot of space on that may have to consider, you know, a borough and in an enrichment, and you know, how to keep him happy and healthy. And it's a lot of work. And how if things changed when it comes to turtle ownership in the last couple of decades. Do you think the like, there's definitely more information? Like when we first got him. There wasn't a whole lot. There wasn't like it was like, you're fine. Feeding him fruit and vegetables from your fridge. You know, it's not it's not. Okay. So there's a lot more information for sure, and I do think that people are, you know, understanding as far as like and Richmond and how to take care of them. But there's still a lot that's on answered and restore figuring out a lot. So do you think that having banshee do you think that he informed kind of your interest in turtles or? Do you think that he predated it because you've already wanted a tortoise? I I don't know. I'm not really sure why wanted him. I don't know. Why that why it was? So intrigued it made me feel like I needed to get more involved. He's my pet, and I kind of feel bad owning him because I look at him. And now that I'm working with wildlife. I'm like man like this is what you're missing out on. It's sort of difficult to to think about him not being able to live that kind of lifelike a lot of wild Hortus. You mean like getting it on? Yeah. I mean, look at I mean, it's just it happens all day long. Right. It does. Well, maybe it's something like being home schooled like there are benefits. You don't have to deal with bullies. You don't have to deal with anyone throwing a milk carton at you. But you also miss out on like, that's some weird shit. Yeah. I do think that that they can live a good life in captivity. Although I don't think it's ideal an Esa -sarily. So I think that there are good owners and. And people do take, you know, they love their tortoises and then turtles, but it it's hard. And I think it's like before you go into trying to get a tortoise and deciding to adopt one there's a couple of things you need to look at you need to make sure that you have a backup plan who's gonna take care of animal when you're gone. Oh my God. Crazy that when you write a will. And you're probably too young to have done. So you have to include something about banshee in your will do. Yeah. It's terrifying. I don't I don't know. I don't even have kids like what where's this tortoise gonna go? It's very scary. And even now, I'm still, you know, his style with my parents. I don't have a house. I don't know what's going to happen. And so that's where before you get an animal like this. You really have to be you know, know, where you are are you settled are you settled down in. Yeah. It's an what's going to happen when you're gone to Google it. Yeah. Yet into it. And also know where it's coming from. Because the you know, the pet trade can be pretty hard on wildlife is it's not good for wildlife. The Noche move know definitely know where where they animals coming from. Right. You hear those stories about dudes like gets her TSA with parakeets in their pants. Just so terrible. I know, but it's also like man, you gotta be a better way to make a living. Kenny can putting like snakes in your pants. And so when it comes to age and turtles and tortoises 'cause obviously banshee is going to live to be one million years old. But why do they live so long? I mean, I read I saw this thing online about a turtle and her one she was hundred forty years old and her newborn baby turtle. And I was like they just keep going and keep much of being one hundred and forty years old. And you're like, here's my infant, son. Like what's happening with that? You have. So that falls into they have a really slow metabolism. So if you think about like, a hummingbird that's going thousand miles a minute. I don't really know how fast they go. But hummingbird probably isn't going to last more than a couple of years. Yeah. Same with little Mason exactly that really high metabolism. I think that the president of the United States uses this argument to avoid exercise because he thinks you only have certain number of heartbeats. Per lifetime yet. No. That's not. Okay. Yeah. I think they continue doing your exercise. Yeah. I think he thinks that you have a finite number, and that's like why he's not super active. I'm going to fact check this just so that nobody thinks that I'm shit talking. This is going to be this is just going to be full serve in fact, other than Gulf he considers exercise misguided arguing that a person like a battery is born with a finite amount of energy. Okay. All right. So moving on. Why are they so damn slow their shell? This shell just doesn't give them. It's it's heavy in the way. And so they yeah. They really can't. I really don't think that they'd be so slow if they didn't have the shell. I mean, I've seen there are tortoises that I they're slow by really like they can be fast when they want to they can book it they can book it. Yeah. I posted a video of gopher tortoise on Twitter. This is like, I don't know probably your ago and she saw trail and she got freaked out. But her borough was actually closer to me. So she had booked at towards me. But yeah, everybody was intrigued to there were like I had no idea tortoise could run like that. And then what's the biggest myth about turtles that you're just over? My gosh, this old man. Maybe the old man. They look like grandpa. Yeah. But have different personalities startled, a turtle. They really do. Oh my gosh. Even in the field with animals when I get to work out in the field sites with them. I feel like I can I can definitely identify some of them that I see that come across like frequently just based on her personality really have let me tell you a girl. She's my favorite tortoise. Her name is grumpy Gertrude. Oh my God. I love her already. So we when I would enter the field site. My my adviser was the one who introduced me to her, but she would beat her boroughs like right at the entrance of the failed side. And so when you come in she just like, she would defend her territory. So anybody that came in she'd come out bobbing her head which is a sign of defense, and and just trying like she was away. And so she's just very territorial. She's really aggressive. I have a video of her attacking my camera. But then there's other moments to our she is very very tolerant. So I was at a different borough. And she came out I was working with another tortoise. She decides saw me so she came out of her borough. She just wanted to check stuff out she wasn't defensive because it wasn't her territory. So she came out and she like walked all over my gear. She's just very curious is also very defensive, and then there's others that are really shy you'll handle them or take them out. And they're not there. They will not come out of their shell. So. Yeah, there's there's definitely. Personally. And can they they can get all the way in them. So that they're just like, I'm arrack pitch. Yeah. But some like sea turtles can't do that cracks. Okay. But all other turtles and tortoises can be completely like closed, gone fishing. So she says it soft shell turtles which are not tortoises or circles, but are aquatic turtles who look kind of like a rubbery pancake made out of mud. They'll also flippity flop about without tucking in their legs. Now getting back to tortoises though. And what is your field work usually involve like can you take me through like a really quick like day in the life of Amanda hip field. So it's hot and muggy. It's Florida south Florida scrub habitats there is no shade. I it depends on what I'm doing. So if I'm looking for insects. I am serving boroughs. So I usually go in with a camera scope, and I can get of you of like what's inside the burrow can measure it in that sense too. Sometimes I see stuff with a camera. Sometimes I'll see snakes sometimes I'll see frogs. It's really cool and then from there I'll like try and look for insects. So I'm like taking a big to meter scoop and like sleeping out sand and sifting through it catching flies that are flying around at night. I'll go out with a black light and block like the boroughs. Look furthers specific like borough moss that Lulu. They also eat shit. But you're trying to figure out okay with these gopher tortoises who is eating their shit. We have to find out how many species are would be affected if these gopher tortoises were wiped, exactly right. And why are they getting so wiped cars cars habitat loss? Yeah. We're making too many malls. Yeah. Yeah. They're just they're being pushed out. So it's really sad to see especially in south Florida. Whether it's just really high pressure to develop and so they're just constantly being relocated the tortoises. And so they're getting relocated. But a lot of the other animals are getting left behind. No. Oh, so that's so that research is important to protect them. What kind of measures are are being taken right now to protect gopher tortoises? Well, it's no longer in the past. You could basically just built on top of them O K cover the boroughs and put him. No. Yeah. Like a mausoleum. Yeah. That's so awful. Yeah. How long would they be living under their probably months that is they can do but like very little oxygen. So yeah, they would just be. Yeah. Underground and that so we're not doing that on your or not doing that anymore. So you do have to get a permit. If you want to build, and there's tortoise is on the land. And so now they get relocated. There's a lot that goes into it though. So they have to get relocated. But you can't just dump them at another site. They're so specific to like the area like imagine being, you know, sixty years old and living in the same area and then getting relocated. And so they, you know, if they're just put somewhere else, they're gonna continue looking for like their home and. So they. Yeah. So you really can't disliked take him somewhere else. And so it has to there has to be what's called us off release. And so they set up like pens, and they have to basically keep them in these pens for one or two years. And they're yeah. They have to like Hannah just get acquainted to their new home. And then start like kinda give up like, I guess I live here now that yeah. So then those Penn like eventually, the they can be taken out, and they can be able to like go out into the tortoise population. But yeah, oh, so it's a process. It's not yet. It's not just leave Zia. Oh are there? Any movies about turtles tortoises that you love or hate? You know, ninja turtles is leg. Like, the only one that really comes to mind. I Burroughs or sewers. Yeah. I didn't realize how accurate that was true. Because those really are long tunnels. They are who knew that was factual the pizzas factual, right? Definitely. Yeah. Okay. The backflips actual. Okay, patriot questions. You ready for some lightning round? I am ready for this people have term excited people love turtles totals. So before we get to the patriot questions. However, quick break to tell you about a sponsor the show who makes it possible for us to churn these out every week. And also a word about this week's charity who is getting a donation from the allergies community. So Amanda, chose the nonprofit alongside wildlife foundation dot org, which is a five one c three nonprofit supported by a grassroots network of people just passionate about wildlife conservation, and they do research and outreach. They promote science based solutions for living alongside wildlife in perpetuity. They even raise money to give grants to scientists who can continue doing important work with wildlife. So they rock thanks for picking them. Okay. It's time to call listener. Let's do that. All right back to the show. Let's have those patriarch questions. Please. Tell me we gotta peanuts question. I know we already talked about it. Oh, of course. We did. Okay. Lee. Shabas wants to know straight up. How did you get your job? I'm obsessed with turtles and tortoises. And I would love to do something with them either professionally or volunteering how can you get up in that turtle world? Okay. Well, I, you know, it's hard to say, I don't even know how I got this fun here. Like, how did I get here? How did I you of it? I know it just sorta just happened again how to get involved. So you can look, you know, for whatever is in your area like figure out what species are around you. And see if you can Molen tier there is, you know, if you're out west like here, there's a desert tortoise council, and there's gopher tortoise council and the east you got a network turtle people. There's turtle Twitter is definitely hashtags might not make turtle friends. It's so true. And I think that's you know, that is. Really how alternately ended up wearing Amish is connections and meeting people with similar interests make turtle runs. There's turtle club's. Are you kidding? Sure. Every city has a turtle in Tournus club. I should join wanna why am I not hurt us club. I don't know. You gotta hang with those nerds. I looked up. The local I looked up to local turtle and tortoise club. When I was looking for a good, colonial logistical like. So a turtle people are out there. And they're just in a borough in shell you've got to get to know. Sidonia chevette I found your address through patriot. And I looked up with local to you. And I found the bay area amphibian and reptile society, which is having a meeting on January twenty fifth. So for more info, you can see B A R S dot org. Everyone else. Google your city, plus herpetologist society. See what comes up make some turtle buds may be where -nology shirt there in find your people lacy case, you're wants to know do turtles that hatch from the same nest hang out with each other for a while. And if so how old are they when they go off on their own like the hang for a while. They learn behavior from other turtles or is. It just like I'm out there out. So when I was monitoring Ness and north Florida they they would hatch under shell. And you let him go, and they would just they would just start digging a burrow. Oh, yeah. Or eating like the quick. And they come out. They're just like they're off and they're just living their life. So yeah, they're not hanging out with mom. We're not hanging out with each other. Just. They're eating and they're trying to find a place to hide God. If only all babies were like that. Right. Then I would have kit. His poop out a dozen of them, and you're likely good. Donate. Each other. Jonathon see us have turtles been on earth longer than humans. That answer is hell, yeah. Oh, yeah. Much longer. Okay. So turtles proto turtles of all two hundred sixty million years ago, and humans scientists say between three hundred thousand and one hundred ninety five thousand years ago, it's being debated regardless turtles win, and we suck Austin h wants to know how long does the average turtle'll live in. What are the most common causes of morbidity? Oh, well, okay. So tortoises. Well, on average live probably about eighty to one hundred fifty years, depending on please gopher tortoises. It's kind of average at sixty. But in the one the oldest one that we know of is in captivity, and he's like ninety six we don't really know. How Gobert her says truly get but? Yeah, probably between sixty nine hundred fifty the second question was he Di of what boredom? What are they dying of? I mean cars. Yeah. Mostly cars. So yeah cars are big are really big problem. A really big problem for all turtles tortoises. So would you do when you see a turtle in the road? Have you risked life and limb to get a Turlough road? I don't ever recommend cutting your life, but you can help them cross. So just make sure it's safe for you to do. So I do help them cross all the time. But I would I would not lunch in front of a car to be honest. I I do like my life at it's so common in Florida to see them crossing all year round. I will like help him cross. It's always a good idea to help them cross in the same direction that they're going because through very stubborn creatures, and they know where they wanna go. So don't try to convince them otherwise make sure leg don't try to convince them to go somewhere else. Just moved them in the direction that they're going. But it's pretty easy to move most turtles and tortoises. You can just grab him by the sides in and help them cross snapping. Turtles are a little different. Right careful. Where's snapping turtles such Texas? They're just angry like, maybe something in their disposition just evolved to be like, listen, I'm real bitchy. I roll defensive those of us with these beaks. I can use it. And yeah, I get a use it. Yeah. I would if I had that. Probably moved to no one fucks with someone with a beak like that. And so you can move them. But cars are a big one. Yes. Okay. All right. So Morgan sweet wants to know other than limit the use of off road vehicles. What are some of the ways that we can help with tortoise conservation while still enjoying our public lands while a lot of it is supporting legislature? Oh and voting Kelly Brockton notes that cuff in link from rocky, which is now a creed franchise. Are she thinks Red Stripe racers how long can these guys live because apparently the same turtles that were in the original rocky and seventy seven we're in creed and twenty seven twenty seventeen. Let's I don't know there were two turtles that were in rocky. I think he she I think she's maybe thinking writer slider, ready slide. Oh, Red Stripe. Racers. I thought that was a different species. So so yeah, these same turtles were in two franchises. So I guess they can live for awhile s. Yeah. Very old. I wonder if they're the most famous turtles. I don't know. That's I would love to know the I'll I'll look into it. Knew about is my friend's coffin link. So these turtles Terrapins, if you will I know are alive and forty four years old, they appear to be aging very nicely or they've just had impeccable work done JC w says why are there two distinct lineages of turtles the snake necks? And the non snake neck turtles. Oh, I think he's thinking the side next. So there's two lineages there's the crypto era, which is the hidden next. So those are the the turtles and tortoises that can pull their neck out of their shell. And then there's the side necks, and that's plural. Dera they hope I'm saying that's right for a Deora. And they just they can instead of pulling their neck inside their the side next latest kind of like turn their head to the side. Oh, so they just put it under a shelf. Yes. That's exactly it. Okay. I didn't know that they took. Yeah. They talk. Yeah. Percents far as like eve. Volving? I'm not sure I'm not sure why side next side note. So I looked into this. And apparently, they're still a lot of mystery about the side neck turtles. But some research came out just this past summer that may link the drift of continents to their distribution and volition and may have led to see turtles. I mean flipper feet. We've got shovel Hans retractable heads crazy dogs turtles man, living the life. Rick Asha says I've seen a lot of videos when someone thinks they're helping eternal by tossing it in the water when it's actually a tortoise psychotic alley. That's happens. All the time. Oh, no. What's an easy way to tell the difference in should we just leave them alone. They probably know what they're doing unless it's crossing the street in that case. I'll definitely help a brother out but Ray cash. Okay. This is a depressing question, but we should answer. This is a question when you talk about it's like a question. Yeah. So this happens with gopher tortoises all the time. I can probably imagine doors is here desert horses. But. Yep. People confuse them the gopher tortoise is I'm sorry. They. They will sometimes live on the beach. They have like they live in the dunes. They have boroughs there. And so sometimes we'll be taken a walk down the beach and people confuse them. I e turtles, and they'll try until the Bill think that it needs saving, and they'll put it in the ocean. And this happens very frequently. So now a lot of beaches. We'll have signs where it says like, please don't touch the tortoise. First of all we shouldn't be touching them period unless they need help crossing road. They they don't really need help turtles if especially with the sea turtle. You should probably be calling somebody you shouldn't be touching it. So if you see something that needs help, I would call, you know, after you see year, your local DNR something. PS? That's the Florida fish and wildlife conservation commission or the department of natural resources. Now, if you're staring down the barrel of turtle how do you tell if it's a circle or a tortoise? So if you're looking at the limbs, that's probably the best way to tell so tortoises have these like stout muscular limbs, they don't have web defeat. Okay. So they're of just more like built for digging turtles you'll see like their their limbs how like webbed feet in they can swim. So once dumpy wants webby. Yeah. So little elephant legs versus kinda webby. Yeah. Webby duck leg live. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a scientist. Let's see Raquel new. No, one of snow. Can they come out of their shell? It. Yeah. These questions are so common. Yes. It's that's okay. No, yeah. No, they can't their their whole everything's in that shell they're attached their shell. They're spying is attached to the Schaal. Their ribs are attached to the shell. So that question was from planetary scientists and sell analyst Racquel know who taught us all about the moon. And this is another wonderful reminder that even the smartest scientists keep asking questions and Amanda says she gets questions so much because of cartoons, and I just did a Google image. Search for cartoon turtle leaving shell so many little new turtles. But the reality of a turtle leaving its show would be like us just taking out our spines and hanging them up on a co rack at the end of the day. It's nightmare town. Jen Wu says from my husband who loves turtles, which turtle is the best. Oh, I mean is going to be controversial. Yeah. This is like this is a question. I don't even wanna get right enemies. We'll be made alliance. We'll before. Oh my gosh. I in the truth is I really don't have a favorite. I feel like my favorite is like the last one that I've seen I feel like every time I see one. I'm just like, you're my favorite. And then I'll see the next one grumpy Gertrude around eight Gertrude is definitely without doubt. Like mine. Number one. Okay. I love that right now somewhere across the country. There's a tortoise named Gertrude who's beloved Sarah Crocker wants to know sexually mature at what age. Oh, this is a good question. So this also depends on species and location. So in south Florida, gopher tortoises woman chair as soon as seven because they're not having to hibernate or not having to you know, stowaway for the winter. So they're eating all year round. They're growing a lot faster maturing by each seven in the northern part of the range like Alabama. They can take like twenty years to reach sexual maturity bike. So a lot of it is just dependent on location. That's a shark so much puberty. Yes. Forget decades. My gosh shoe, but a slight slight Harry, mustache and bad skin and uncontrollable Boehner's for decades them at sharks. They're like, the sucks, man. Christopher wants to know what you consider the tortoise to be the introvert of the animal kingdom. I don't think. So really? I mean, maybe but working with gopher tortoise as I've really thought differently about it. I know that they have is really highly social heists social structures. I don't I don't know if I believe that anymore. I think that's smart. I think that's good to know. They're like, no. I just don't wanna talk to you. Maybe talked turtles. Oh, Jennifer booze. Can they really breathe out of their butts? If so please give all the details. Oh, wow. So this is not something that's usually wrought up with tortoises. But yet some aquatic turtles can have oxygen exchange through their butts. So if we if we want to call that breathing. Yeah. I guess that's I guess that's the case. But it's not happening like breathing through your mouth. It's just it's just a oxygen exchange through tissues. Does that help them if they're diving or if they're in the mud or something? Yeah. Okay. Stick your butt up. Yeah. Okay. It's not a snorkel. It's not. On bud snorkel. Rich. Grow says a long time ago. I was at a fair with the head of giant turtle and allowed people to write it how much were they herding the turtle not guy. That's not guy. Teagan wall. I saved the patriarch question. That was perhaps the most important for last is Dr Teagan wall says I've had my turtle year deal for almost twenty five years here at all. I know I've had this turtle for twenty five years. Does she love me? Can't she love me one hundred years? Okay. So the tree is that is that the whole question this whole question. I actually love it. You know? Okay taken. Yes. I I would like to believe that my tortoise loves me. I Joe, no. If he does I know that he loves to eat. And so when I come out with food, he loves me, I think they love you. I mean, if they can have buddies I do, and I do think that might Hortus recognizes individuals. He knows me. He knows my mom because we're the ones that feed him. And so he does come to us. He's not gonna like be quite as, you know, active like or like wanting to go towards a stranger. So they know who you won't. I think he dumped words, okay, shoot. Okay. One more patriotic question. He Brown wants to know how does their longevity impact their perception of time. And is that why they seem so chill? All the time. I I don't know. I this something that we've never looked at. But that is a really interesting question. I don't know if I knew that I didn't have to hurry up so much and that I could have children at one hundred fifty years old. This would be so good for me. God late bloomer that. I mean, there's like you wouldn't you could take your time on everything. Yeah. You kidding? I would not. Yeah. I mean, I have but. You're doing stuff you're getting. You're getting degrees. You're saving gopher tortoises. I just I'm just doing it a little bit later. But I I'm happy with it. I'm happy. I mean, it seems like you've fallen into exactly where you want to be asked. I know I've been I've never been happier with my career choice. She loves turtle so much. She can't even bear to shit talk them this. This is to student illogical loyalty. What is the worst thing about your job though, or about turtles, do you have any shit? You wanna talk about turtles? Yeah. They'll know. Okay. We can't go there. What about your job? I as far as my job. I think that we're in a time right now where there's so much urban development and habitat law. It's really hard to see all habitat loss. There's been a couple times where we've found and tortoises at our failed sites that have been hit by cars. And so I think those are probably my worst days God, I bet. Yeah. And the do you have burials for them. That's a stupid question. But I'm asking. Anyway, what do you do when you see a dead tortoise? I actually collect them to what I'm doing right now is looking for what's called the it's called a gopher tortoise shell Emma? I'm chris. Because these moths will feed specifically on dead over tortoiseshell might God it find your niche, exactly bloom where you're planet in so. Yeah, I'm basically taking I do like take the the carcass. And I use the shell to put out in the my field site and kinda just sit and wait for Stig to appear. But it hasn't happened yet to tortoises more another tortoise big inch tiny brains pretty they're pretty small new. They have various mall brains. I don't I don't know. I there hasn't been any anything recorded where we're tortoises are mornings. I'm not really sure. But I do wonder I mean, it does make me wonder because they do have these structure they social structures. And so I do wonder like who is missing you who's like trying to go to your borough now. And you're not coming back. I know, oh, I wonder if they were trying to scoot them into their burrow like a Muslim. I don't know what I mean final resting spot turtle death. I'm gotta. I'm gutted what is your favorite thing about turtles or your job? Oh, my favorite thing about my job is the people that I've met even just like being on social media and just kind of connecting with people that have similar interests. Even if they're not in the same field has been so much fun. I think that's definitely like my favorite part. Yeah. Turtles Twitter hurdled Twitter. Get into it. Yes. I feel like if you if turtles give you butterflies, you gotta get up and find your people, you've gotta find your Turner people. Yeah. And I think I mean, it took me so long to get to this point to really be like, oh, wow. This is where I'm supposed to be. But it's about turtles. So it's supposed to give forever xactly. You're not studying hairs. You know what I mean? So true. Do hate the tortoise and the hair are you like lay off the turtles? Yeah. I mean, even though the the tortoise ends up being the protagonists when I mean, I don't really hate it. It's fine. It's just a fable. I did get a video on. Of a it was on a camera trap of a cocktail rabbit that was living with tortoise. No. And I have so many videos of him just like Chillan and hanging out. And there was like one where he came over and the the bunny kind of like got up until like the tortoise face just like sniff, it it was so cute. So were they friends? I don't think that orders give two shits about them. They're out. Did they kick it together? He was he was hanging out for like probably two or three weeks. Oh my God. Oh, my God has that gone viral on the doto yet or something like, geez. I mean, I think I posted on Instagram, but it's like the best rap beef buried ever, actually. I very highly recommend following Amanda on Instagram and Twitter, you got videos of tortoises fieldwork photos and also follow her hashtag shit bugs for updates on the dung gobbling burrow mates. She studying as well as videos about grumpy Gertrude tortoises in Harris just kicking it and where can people find you Instagram as by affiliate MandA Twitter? Nice consistent handles. Yes. Dope. Man mixing so easy. Get try to get the same handles, man. Who f- you gotta get in early. 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RADCast Outdoors Episode #46: Pike Slam - Danny Kurttila Joins the Show to talk Pike, Muskie and Catching Fish on 3 Continents.

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RADCast Outdoors Episode #46: Pike Slam - Danny Kurttila Joins the Show to talk Pike, Muskie and Catching Fish on 3 Continents.

"On this episode of rag cast outdoors. We sit down with danny kurla. Danny is one of my fishing mentors and really good fishing. Buddies danny is an incredible angler. He's traveled to three different continents fished in four different countries to complete the unofficial pike slam. But a lot of people don't realize he's the very first one to ever complete the phase. I bass slim and trout slam. He's the very first ultimate angler in wyoming and at one time he held forty five different line class world records through the idea fe and the fresh water fishing hall of fame. Danny's cut almost eight hundred muskie's in his career which is quite the feet and on this. Episode of rod cast outdoors. He sits down with us to talk about his pike slam. Traveling the world fishing for different kinds of fish and also talking about golden trout tiger muskie's and a whole lot more so i hope that you'll sit back and relax and enjoy this. Episode of rag cast outdoors. This episode of cast outdoors is brought to you by. Pk lures both spider and high mountain seasonings. Sean rad cast is on putting fishing and everything in between this is red cast outdoor here david merrill and patrick edwards. Hello and welcome to another episode of rabbi cast outdoors. I'm patrick edwards. I'm david maryland. I'm glad you're back for another week. We're here again. And i've been looking forward to this one because i know this guest very very well. He's taught me almost all that. I know about phishing between him and my dad they get all the credit but almost had arm wrestle to get him to come on almost almost but danny welcome to the show. It's good to have you thank you for having me good afternoon. Everyone yeah so. We're gonna get into a little bit of stories about pike and muskie's because that's what danny really loves but i i wanna talk about one of our sponsors so was say a huge shoutout to boast spider and david for sponsoring this podcast. he's got a lot of really cool stuff coming onto his websites if you are a bow spider customer. He does have some how to videos to use this product more effectively. Which are really great. If you're a bow hunter of any kind you gotta have a bow spider bo packing system to pack around your compound because there's really no other way to do it as efficiently and with as many great ways of doing. It is the both spider provides. So so that having lena hunt that we filmed it will be on the youtube channel with those how to videos in down there hunting and that pucker thick nasty brush and dude. It was really nice to not have to hold my bow and push those pokey branches out of the way but be able to retrieve it when i need it so yeah. Those guys can though spider dot com the website. Go check it out. That's enough about both spider so let's jump into it so Just a little bit of history here. I've been fishing with danny. Since i was a little kid. And the any like. I said he's taught me a lot of what i know. And he just very knowledgeable fisherman in his fished literally all over the place which we're going to get into the kind of where i wanted. Start just so people can get to know ya is you know. How did you get into fishing. And where are you from. I was born in southwestern wyoming. And when i was growing up my grandparents had a lake house on Are crooked lake in the in the brainerd area of minnesota north central wyoming in soda. And as a little kid. We used to get brought up there by our folks to fish for blue gills off their dock. And i guess the first time ever fished up there. I caught up my first moog. And i was so excited i was probably like four years old or so that i start jumping up and down and jumped off the end of the dock in their water. Now's a pretty good sign. That i was pretty bad. Hooked on fishing right then So you know growing up who who really got you into fishing mainly my dad and my grandfather. They were both like fish for northern. Pike was their thing but they'd let us fish for blue gills and stuff on the dock all the time and my grandparents like fed the blue gills with like corn or cornmeal and and Quaker oats and all sorts of stuff to keep him around. And then we'd get up there. We'd fish with iran. We didn't even have paul's had like a will stick with the line tied on a hook and a night crawler. And maybe a piece of worm. And bob orr and that's how we'd catch and we'd catch quite a few nothing really big enough to keep we are folks. Let us keep some also. We could contribute to the meal or whatever but my dad and grandpa would always go out on the boat and fish for northern pike and as we got a little older they start taking us out there with me and my brother right below me and they wouldn't let us fish for northerns. We had to sit and watch else fish. You know bobbers right off the silo boat. They'd be cast in these big spoons droplets and catching these northern pike. And if you have ever caught a northern pike you know they're pretty good fighters and it's pretty exciting. I remember one time. You're fishing with them. And they caught four or five up to six seven pounds. Maybe which back then. That was a huge fish. When i was a little kid and a couple of them got so they get really violent when they get next to the boat when you need them and stuff and one of them had to cut the net apart to get the pike out of there and so the next day or next when i return back to minneapolis because living in minneapolis. At that time. I wrote wrote a story about this. Are there fishing trip. And how impressed i was. You know that that the cut the fish out of the net and all the other stuff so i. At an early age. I got to be a big pike fanatic but i never would they narrowed. Let us fish farm because we were little afraid. We'd get hurt because if you haven't caught a northern pike their whole heads for these huge teeth that are razor sharp. Their gill covers a razor sharp and their gill raker so anything from the head. Forwards dangerous parts of grab on one of them and that about the time. I was starting getting close to old enough to go. We moved to arizona while there's not a whole lot of pike fishing in arizona. So did that really sparked your interest in. Pike was i watch and how exciting fights. We're and stuff. Oh yeah. I was hooked on big time. Now it's like my dream. Fish to sunday. Catch was the northern. Pike and we made a few trips out. After we moved i moved to arizona then we moved up to riverton and we went back a couple of times and one time we went out with my great uncle. He had a lake place on another lake. Called them you can. And we're fishing. Smelt big old long smell and my brother kept catching these little bullheads that were barely bigger than the smell and then he finally caught a pretty good northern and i finally got one on it got underneath the boat and broke my line. I was just heartbroken and then my great uncle. He caught eighteen pound northern. Were within the man. That was the biggest fish. I've ever seen in my life magazine even more excited. Well when we got done back then we nobody believed in releasing anything and so he was cleaning fish in the garage. And i walked over to the garage and see what was going on i did. He was tossing that northern pike fish guts out and they hit me right in the face with all that was a real cool experience but after that i really had to catch a pike but when i when i was like junior high and stuff i mostly fish trout. Walleyes bass around here. 'cause callsas pike fishing in wyoming is up a keyhole. Now's is way too far to go. When of that. But when i got older and living by myself and working for pepsi i start making trips to minnesota every fall to the finally got a about eighteen inch which is just a peewee one but also proud of that stupid fish embarrassing and then my dad had caught the biggest one he'd ever caught when he lived in minnesota was eighteen pounds and so that was my target of had to catch beer. The my dad's and i get going and never was getting anything. Real huge thought about going to candidate and fish farm. But i never did get around to it and then i started reading about. Muskie's is all muskie's member of the pike family too but it gets a lot bigger than northern thought. And that's what i gotta be fishing for made the mistake. The first time ever went fishing farm was in a lake in downtown minneapolis. Carplay carry it. I'd read that it had musk's in it and so i went out there with my great big spinning rod. I bought this real long. Supposedly european predator rod or something and the tail which is just a big spender with a big wad hair. Tight on the back of it. That's supposed to be like one of the top muskie lures and i didn't have a board or anything but i was fishing off the dock with my cousin and i had this started reeling in. There's this fish behind my lewer. And i thought it was carps. I stopped reeling. It was looking at. And then i finally figured thousand muskie well. That's the worst thing you can do for muskie files to stop because they'll lose interest in swimming way you're supposed to do like figure eight or whatever when you get a musky in. After that i mean it was only like probably three footer. But that looked like a huge fish back then and that pretty much got me started on them. Dang muskie's and so then. I started going on my all. My vacations to canada and minnesota muskie fishing and it was like a couple of years before i caught my first muskie and then it was only like thirty two inches but it might as well been one hundred pounders. Happy as i was the guy guide i was fishing with. He said i wouldn't quit. Saying i can't believe i got one to find opened his mouth and he just kept saying that over and over again and i was really proud of that fish. But i've caught a lot bigger ones since then but yeah. It was going to say. How many do you have now. Because it's been a long time ago because you've got a lot since then probably close to eight hundred if count tigers purebred musky so yeah so you you keep having that. It's to go after them. Oh that's my favorite fish. I spend most of my summer. Driving the utah our nebraska or somewhere to go muskie fishing tiger muskie fishing or even canoe a little bit of that now in fremont county with atwater pond and bass lake and mill depression reservoir all have tiger muskie zoom so actually caught a tiger out of bass lake a couple years ago so i have hopes that that's going to turn a pretty good tiger muskie visual eventually. We'll i've told patrick several times that you know i only need to get one more elk harvested and then i can feel complete has an elk hunter and it just turns out that i shoot one and i need to just just one more. I kind of pick that. That's how how muskie fishing is just gotta catch one more ads and then you gotta hit the magical numbers like thirty pounds or fifty inches or whatever or fifty five inches if you get really good at it. I guess i haven't got really good. Because i haven't caught a fifty five crack fifty muskie's anti-tiger must Player caught seven altogether. Five purebreds into tigers were fifty or bigger and just for the listeners who aren't familiar with muskie fishing. It's a feat in itself to catch a musky. The catch eight hundred around that ballpark of muskie's tiger muskie's that's something special and you have to spend a lot of time. I mean it's not something you just wake up one morning and go do it. You get skunked. Fish muskie's and tigers but once in a while you'll have good days it's your fault. By the way that i'm hooked on tiger muskie fishing. Same thing i mean. I've told this story on the podcast. Before but i had a tiger muskie follow me in that got my heart rate up big time and then had one strike and i pulled lure out of his mouth which was really depressing. But yeah now that i've got him i mean they're one of the more addicting fish to catch for sure. So what really you know. You talked a little bit. About what got you hooked on pike and muskie but what was it that kinda got you the drive you go. After all the different species of what we would call a pike slam or unofficial pike slam. Well after i moved to tennessee They have chain pick wrong. Grass pickerel down. There and i started fishing for them trying to catch them and i caught. My jane trickle fairly fast. But i wasn't catching any grasp pickle and so pretty much spent like early summers fishing for chain picker over kentucky lake. And and later on i go up to kentucky and tennessee and muskie fish but when the water levels were very cold out is mostly specialize pickerel fishing and one day i was fish. One of my favorite chain pickerel spots and i had to sit on a spinner in this fish jumped out of the water and it didn't look like is the right color so i kind of got aware you know felt like that was kind of strange and when i got in i could see. It wasn't a chain. Pigro zacks their grass pickle and it was a big one like fourteen inches. Well the world record grasp across only a pound even and it's probably like seventeen eighteen inches long so that was a really big grasp. Pickle and tennessee didn't have a state record grass pickerel that time and so i was way out in the lake wade and i was going to try and bring it in and put it in a cooler and take it and get certified as a state record and then turn it loose. Well i got about halfway as in foot my hands and went back in the water and that so i never got my state record grasp pickle and unfortunately that's the only one i ever caught but i did catch a grass pickerel chain perk or hybrid one time which is kind of unusual deal but all the pike can interbreeding with each other the fertile ones. Anyway so what are all the different species in that pike family. There are seven species and one subspecies. The smallest ones are grass picker which is up subspecies of the redfin. Pickerel grasp picker only gets up to pound in the records from like indiana and grasp pickle aren't available in too many places but there's a lake in nebraska or several lakes nebraska that have grass pickerel and they've caught some pretty good size ones but its way on the eastern side nebraska and then red fin pick roll are pretty much confined to the atlantic coast states like new york and new jersey and and like the southern states like florida and georgia and north and south south carolina. Virginia place like that laughter. I caught that grass pickerel. I realized that the only subspecies. I hadn't caught available in the us was a red fin. Pick grown so. I made a specific trip to florida. Eye contact some fisheries people in florida and they recommended a place where i might have a chance of catching the grass pickerel. Well i went out there about spring break time. And i didn't realize it but that's about prime mosquito time in florida when you're walking around in the swamp i gotta watch out for alligators and also sorts of good stuff but i finally caught a little tiny red fan out of this one creek called deep creek and it was a monster's like six or seven inches long or like a thirty second house jig with a little plastic minnow on it and so i finally had all my my north american species in that one time it was believed. There are three subspecies of musky. So i made sure i had all them want the ohio river. The great lakes and the northern and new orleans are the fish and the great lakes drain or the spot fish. And then they'll river the more silver ziltser. Yeah the clear ones but there's variations in you get baden barred one sometimes out of the ohio river strain and so i made sure i call them. And then i added a tiger muskie because they're a high read that's why available across the us and they stock them extensively out west like in utah wyoming new mexico colorado utah idaho and montana and then washington has an young has a bunch too. But i haven't made it up to washington yet. The fish war and so i had all them when i was in school. I i got a degree and fishery biology back in the mid nineties at the university of wyoming and i read about this pike that's only available in asia et far east asia. It's only available in russia. Mongolia and china and so that was like my dream. Fish to catch you know besides my muskie's and stuff. So i like to rib patrick a little bit that you know what i do a lot more hunting. And he's the fishing guru rate. But when i went to africa. I took a day and went fishing on the zambezi river tiger fish and i lost the one fish. We hooked that day and it still in it stings. I know you were talking earlier about that. That one loss. That might be a state record. I'm sure my tiger fish. I mean he jumped out of the water twice. And we're using steel leader but he got off and i. I don't really need to go back to africa to hunt. I've checked that box but you gotta go cats that tiger zambezi the thing that scared me though. When we're we're we had a guide and we're on a pontoon boat and we went by a nile. Crocodile there was as long as pontoon boat. Out kidding It was up on the bank just sun and the guy kinda tapped. Her shoulder looked. Because i mean there are still a little spooky. I looked over in my job. Is i mean we're talking fifty sixty foot. Yeah you don't want to wait out there. I don't think that anyway. I understand that and tiger officials supposed to be like awesome fighters and stuff. I've always wanted to catch one. But i don't know if i'll ever africa to get one so anyway i'd read about this. Pike and eastern russia and mongolian stuff. Now is like my dream trip ago but working and stuff. I didn't have time to take off for a couple of weeks ago over there and couldn't really afford it and so i kind of put it on the back burner. Didn't really think much about it. Well then i've diagnosed with cancer about five and a half years ago. I thought man. If i'm going to get any of this stuff done. I better do it before. Because i didn't know how long i was going to have. Because they made it sound like island had like a few months to live when i first got diagnosed and so once i got where my cancer was somewhat under control. I decided to take the plunge and go to russia. And i wanted to go to mongolia. But i couldn't afford mongolia but i found a guy in russia. That was one of the. Take me out for a fairly reasonable price. And so i made the trip out there. 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We are having a big giveaway in the month of april that you can sign up for for a huge prize. Pack that includes some. Pk lure so definitely. Check that out on our website but again thank you to. Pk lewis for sponsoring dna to get back to this. So you get the russia and for those of you out there. You don't realize how sick dating was doesn't really talk about it. But i mean the guy down plan. That will yeah. This guy. fish is seriously more than anybody. I've ever met like a ton of days a year probably at least a third of the year. He's finding a way to make it somewhere to go fishing. But you know this. This cancer really took him out. And i mean he. He was on the edge there for quite a while and so we were all just kind of wondering what was gonna happen and he got here. He signs it goes to russia. He got a lot better and it was. It was really cool to see that. And then he says. Hey i'm gonna go to russia so tell us you know what what's it like going to another country especially russia that so much different than here well for one thing. There's a military presence everywhere you go. I mean you can be out in the boonies. And they'll be soldiers like alongside the road. All the bus stops and stuff. Because i have a lot of bus stops out in the rural area. Not unlike wyoming. They have pretty good bus service. Apparently out there and people in russia are really really pushy. Like when i went to get off the plane. I was towards the back of the plane. I was starting to get up and people were just pushed me away to get to the front of the plane. So i find this wait until they all got in front of me and then he get up there and then have to go through customs and their customs ages. I don't think know how to smile. I mean i think it break their face if they smile and my my past barton to go to rush you have to get a letter invitation from somebody over there and so i had my letter invitation and my passport and handed to them and this woman this glares at me and looks down and i stand there and then she glares at me. Some morning looks down again and finally she let me in is like i didn't think i was going to get through and i have any reason to. I wasn't like trying to sneak anything in or out and got picked up by my this guide. Friend that i while he wasn't a friend at the time but became friends with and they drive on the same side of the road as we do but all their vehicles are the wheels on the right hand side like english cars and i didn't know that and we went to get in his truck so i walked over to the other side and goes where you drive a nice said no and i looked in the stern. We'll on that side. So that was different. And they drive like maniacs out there and their roads are terrible because we had to drive around one hundred miles to get down to the part of the armor river bass fishing. And so that was you know. Are we gonna make it alive kind of thing. And then when they they're doing a bunch of construction and instead of doing anything to fill it they leave it however it is when they get done. So i mean you have to really pick your way carefully and and like i said the people there drive. Like maniacs in the streets are real narrow and stuff. It's amazing they don't have wrecks all the time over there and then there's like all these bus stops out in the middle of nowhere and you look and they'll be like a soldier to almost at every bus doubt the so military still keeps a pretty good clamp on the people over there and as far as like shopping and stuff their stores seem to have you know decent amount of stuff because i guess new when the communist round you know you have to wait in line to get a loaf of bread and stuff and doesn't seem to be that way anymore and most of their architecture and their cities. Are these old like military barrack style apartments where they're just cement. Walls and stuff really crude. The only real fancy places are either government buildings big churches. And that's everything else is pretty mundane bleak looking and then everybody over. There is driving either like japanese or chinese or You korean vehicles or else to have these old ancient soviet military trucks and stuff. And so it's weird you don't hardly ever see any mid size or bigger cars or full size trucks. All these like little japanese and korean trucks and stuff like that is. We're so tell me a little bit about the you know the excursion going on the trip. Because i remember when you came back there was a lot of interesting stories. One about the flies that tried to care. Yeah they have different fishing styles and all kinds of so. Tell us about that. Well when i went out there it was in the summer which was a mistake. I should've gone like in the fall or the spring. And i didn't realize that they had such a problem with the got like giant horse lies and real tiny like blackflies. But they're kinda yellowish colored. Just check out of you and they hit you like in the middle of the day and then in the early morning and evening mosquitoes. You know this alive. So guy tape my gloves up around my arms or the sleaze in my shirt and stuff and tape your ankles to keep from getting just eight ally by especially them flies and is pretty rough out there and you don't see hardly any game. I think they're so poor out there that they pretty much kill everything they can you know and then the area we are in actually has amour tigers but they're like super only like four hundred of them in existence anymore but there was a chance you know you might run into a tiger. Which that we've been weird scared and heck to. We can't actually camp on an island. We camped on two different islands. We camped on an island up in this tributary. Although we were called the girl river what was your camp like. Oh we just had a big tent and two floating rafts with gatt or with gas engine. It was pretty portable. It wasn't just set up when we got there wasn't like some he set up and he said the reason we were camping on the island was because like allow the woods around there had some kind of ticked. That give you a real bad disease. And they didn't want me to get bit by one of them. And i didn't wanna get bit by one of them and so we pretty much either fish or you know stayed on islands or else fish. Dial the boat. We didn't really walk around the show ordering thing i did around the shore of the island because they said the high water you know blows all the ticks and stuff off the islands and stuff so you were pretty safe on there and then after i caught my arm. We're pike when everybody was laughing at me because they all fish like spoons and and spinners for the pike and i brought a lot of top waters. Small top ours. Like i used for muskie's and pike out here and they couldn't believe how much better luck house having with them. Top wires and they were having with their spoons and and well the one guy was pretty much a fly fisherman but he was trying to see if he could make a fly that have a similar action to my top water. And then the other guy was really interested in in those lures. Because it was on something i guess they don't have over there and so when i got back i sent them some of them wa- proper top water. Because i done pretty good. I i only caught like five on pike and lost a couple of others and then we went over to the main oh and i caught on were catfish with his to catfish which are relatives. Those huge wels catfish that they catch in europe. That don't get near as big but they they look exactly like a wells just a small one to like a huge head and kinda skinny tail. Yeah almost like a snake or something with a great big huge and they seem to like top waters. Pretty good and then i caught. This fish called the flathead asked which is a predatory species of minnow. That aren't real common to catch and they seem to like top. Water is pretty good too. So i caught some weird fish and then we went over to the main on more to catch some mostly what they catcher either up on were pike or when the seasons right they get allow those they get time and in lanark which are salman is related to trout and salmon but the time year is there had to go way way further upstream than they wanted to go to run into them because of water warms up too much in the summertime because we were there like in july like ninety degrees. Almost every day we were there are more with real. High humidity wasn't really fun. So what did you eat. Did you eat those fish that you cut costs about fish. Steve brought some reindeer meat. And we add like reindeer stu and stuff and they have he bought cheese and a few things and then one of the amours i caught the small and i caught was hooked in the gill and so there wasn't going to live and so he flayed that out and i got to try that well then. We went onto the main on more river. We camped on this island those about a half mile across the lake or whatever or across the river and i caught one of the more catfish and he told me to keep it and so he he went over to the river and dump or scooped out some that were river water which is nasty looking rather it was real clear chow stream but moore ever looked really bad and and then he started cutting that catfish chunks through it ended up the omega steward of that catfish well. I wasn't too keen on the fact that he's using that wherever war even though his ball and it had all this out instead of A nasty looking and we had these big big containers spring water that we'd gotten filled. I wish he'd use that instead. And then he brought the catfish gave me the first ball. And that was the one with the head that was probably a sign of respect. I guess i don't know where he was anyway anyway. I tried it and it was. It wasn't terrible. But i really wasn't that enthused with it and so he got to talk with this. Other guy that came over one of his friends came over and a boat to visit us on the island are all bs and stuff and accidentally fling my catfish into the river and they aren't watching wasn't the most appetizing terrible but i just don't like catfish that well and then the fact that was in that nasty looking river water just made it really hard to get too excited about. No mcdonald's to go by we did get he had a friend one. There's all sorts of little villages along the river and the outer friend and one of villages that ran brown out some water to us and then he also ran a couple of cokes too. Because i was getting a needed. A caffeine fix pretty bad. And so i i talked him into bringing out some coke and then also he brought out like some fresh strawberry preserves our really good stuff like that so he kind of saved us a little bit. I think i lost weight while i was out there though because so how many days we gone total i was in russia for i think six days and then it's like a whole day to fly back didn't catch another fish too. There was another species. I caught two in the main river. A sky gazer which was like tarpon. Then i caught a mongol in red fin. They're just two different minnow species that they're okay but there's this one piece of mental that we were trying to catch call the and i can't think of the name of it right now but it looks a lot like a barracuda but it's actually a minnow doesn't have any teeth. All about it gets up to like sixty seventy pounds to minot over there species. There's a lot of pretty good size minnow species over there. 'cause they got all sorts of different kinds of carpet and stuff to which one fought the best out of all of them Probably my armour. Pike there about the biggest fish that i caught fish probably would have been stronger. Friday caught some bigger ones. Didn't catch any bigger ones so for the listeners. Out there what what does the pike's lamb include weather isn't really an official one. I'm trying to get the idea to start one. But i what i consider pike slammer all seven of the species plus the one subspecies a pickerel. And then i caught the two different. I guess they're strain or three different strains of muskie's now they aren't considered subspecies plus tiger muskie. Because they're pretty available. And then the pike and then like a couple years. After i went there they decide. There's a new species of pike in the world. Aqua teen pike been listed as a species for like five or six years and southern pike which has been a species for about ten years. Well i hadn't. I wasn't aware of that at the time. And then i don't know. I got back from russia and of having some real bad problems with my neck and got a hold of a neurologist from casper and he did some tests and he said. Oh you're ferber. Ar collapsed and you said you might be in a wheelchair by the end of the year. And i thought last not good. And so i'd heard about those other two speech and i thought man if i'm going to try and catch him. I better go. And get them while. I can still move so i made the trip over to europe and to get the southern pike efficient in italy and to get the aquitaine pike after fish in france and so i did both on one trip. I got a hold of an italian guy. That was on the this musky site that i go on. I was asking for information about southern pike and aquitaine pike. Me said well. If i came out he'd take me fishing for this other pike and then we could also fish for the northern pike. The having europe are lot like way. Girth your and heavier than the ones we have in the. Us almost look like a different fish. There's so much. Faster built more like a musky than northern pike and so we went to this little late because the italian pike or the southern pike as they call them. They don't get quite as big as a northern pike and then their colors are. They're almost like a tiger muskie. But with horizontal stripes and spots instead. Vertical ones i get tiger muskie and they're real cool looking fish and we fish. This little lake called lake no which is south or west of milan we went. I flew into milan and we drove all these. I tie and great lakes. There's like Magori can't think all the names but there's a bunch of these real huge lakes and then there's a smaller lakes in the smaller lakes are generally. What have the southern pike in. And so we started likes to troll troll for like hours and hours on that lake and didn't have any action and the weather was starting to get nasty and said he said well. We'll try casting for a while and then we went over. There are some places where there's like reads the water. Didn't you take your walker plumbers again. I didn't catch anything on. But as using a red fin moore that i catch tiger. Muskie's in muskie's on bass. Bill ben with me when i've had success start throwing that in about half hour after i started throwing i caught a small southern. Pike is like twenty four inches long. But i was more than pleased that i caught one at least and then we kept cast in that had a couple of others. Follow me in. But i didn't get them hit and then the weather got bad enough that we had to get off the lake because it was just starting to pour in so i caught my southern pipe but only caught one and then the next two days he wanted to go fish lake magori because there's huge northern pike and they're like he's biggest ones. I think fifty one inches that he'd caught out of there which for northern pike is huge said that he hoped that i could catch at least a pike over a meter long and and then that stubborn pike and you'd consider it a real successful trip and the first day i caught to one was thirty five inches and the other was like thirty six which they are decent fish and the one of them. I caught had a blue mouth in this fans. Were kind of blue. And they call them. Admiral pike for some reason. It's some kind of a mutation or something. And i guess they aren't super common. But i'd never heard them before so i don't really consider my you know subspecies or anything. So and then the last day that i fish with him we only we only had one hit the whole day and i caught it and it was a forty one inch northern but i bet it way close to thirty pounds. It was so fat. It was amazing. So i was pretty happy with that and then i was going to go to france the next day because i had like another day to day and a half i could fish in france and then i had to head back to the us and so. I went over to france and got in there in the evening pretty late until the next day i walked into town to buy fishing license and that's almost impossible to do in france. I guess i was on a monday. And for some reason the one place in town. That's all was an open on mondays. And so i was all depressed. You know like credit all the way over here and then they can't even go fishing. And then i saw this park ever. You know like provincial. Park something side. And so i walked up to their office and i got to talk to a biologist up there and he said well we can help you get went online and so they helped me get a license online and then he drove me out of the river to area so that actually try and fitch for those because they catch them out of the rivers the dock retain pike. They're pretty small. Like a three footers. A pretty big aqua teen pike and so i tried fishing by myself walking along that river for several hours without any action and there was a guy fishing there those using men. He'd caught quite a few. But i didn't have any minerals or any way to get any and so i was getting kind of depressed and that guy said when i got done fishing to give them a call and he gave me a ride back to my whole my motel or whatever and so i called him i said man i haven't had any action. I said i'm getting pretty tired. And he goes well. I got two friends that are going fishing this afternoon. Would you be interested in going with them because they said they take. If you want. And i said i'll go 'cause i mean they know the river and stuff and so he drove me into town. I bought something. Then then i've met his friends and we went out to some other secret place on the lair river. We tried this pawn. That's supposedly had fish in it but if so shallow could cut in against the water was lower or something and then we went to the other spot on the river. Which i couldn't even tell you how to get to know is almost like blindfold in their type deal but we got over there and we we're fishing and hadn't been having action and finally i got over to this one place and there's these cement posts in the water with must've been like an old dock or something in that area Cast over there with one of my favorite spinners used for chain pickerel and down. If i didn't have a strike. And i thought well i'm probably gonna lose them and i started. Get him in. His son was fat fish and a little bit further upstream than me and he hooked a pike at the same time. As i didn't so that guy was having a hard time to sign. Who should he should go help. And so he ran over real quick and help me get my fish in then he ran over and got a sunfish well. A sunfish was like thirty six thirty seven inch or it was a really big aqua teen. Pike mine was only like twenty two inches long but still really happy. Because i thought man i got all of them now and so. We got some pictures and cars. He took pictures with knee and his son and his son's holding. This big one. And i got this little tiny not too impressive looking but at least i can say caught one and then we fish for a couple more hours and we never had any more action so i couldn't believe it. I only caught one southern pike and awkward team bike. But i did catch on each ended up with all the species now. There's some like hybrids that. I haven't caught like over in lake champlain. And on the vermont new york border. There's a bunch of chain pickerel northern pike hybrids in there that i wanna go try and get some time and then over in nebraska watts lake to have northern pike. Grass pickerel hybrids. And they're like to catch one of them too. I don't really consider them necessarily required for the slam because they're pretty rare so you have quote unquote the unofficial slam now. Yeah i've caught all the species and the official subspecies and then the all three of the musk's if they ever decide to turn them back into species again because it depends on who is in charge of the scientific people that you know. Decide beasts and stuff. There's what they call lumper's and there's what they call splitters well for a longtime the lumper's weren't charged and they are the ones that put like rainbows and cutthroats in the same family as as a pacific salmon. Because i used to consider rainbows and cutthroats in the sound. we'll family which is what brown. Trout and atlantic salmon arm and then they decided that the cutthroats in rainbows and golden corral close enough to pacific salmon that they lump them in with the pacific salmon. Trout don't spawn and die. Like the sam do so. I never could understand why they did that. And so when they are and they're you know they're cutting down on the amount of species and and families and stuff but now the splitters are in there because all of a sudden these two new pike's bc show up and i'm sure that they'll probably reclassifies the salmon is like cutthroats rainbows and gold might start getting their own. You know genus or something. I i don't know it. It changes depending on. Who's in charge so right now. Like i said it's the splitter. That's why i'm afraid they're probably going to decide. There's another kind of pike here one days and you'll have to go in bulgaria or some place like that or you have to go a long ways to get one. They won't be like in candidate or something but to put this in perspective for people. I mean you had to go multiple places across to at least four countries three continents. Lots of miles thoughts are lots of states in the us. I caught my redfin. Pickerel in florida and i caught my jane picchu grass pickerel in tennessee. And i caught my first. Musk in accident. antero. Canada house northern. Musk and then. My my first spotted muskie in lake saint clair on the canadian sides thousand ontario vision. Then i caught my first clear muskie in kentucky so i mean and then my of gonda statesman a lot of different places to try and catch all these stupid. Pike and yuppie really really versatile. Because you got fish that a maximum size of a pound all the way up to muskie's that can get close to seventy pounds. So i mean that's there's a lot of difference between the foot to the six ounce or heavier lures it you throw from us sixty four thirty second. Now it's fish grasp pickerel and redfin pickerel like you. And i talked about before with seth when he was doing that. That one picker for ya card on but like you have a fish. That's basically like a foot long and then you have a fish that's over four foot long. There's a huge asians is. Yeah exactly so yeah. I was going to just jumping on this too. Because you've also got a black pike correct. I've caught up. Muskie black tiger muskie which is just a mutation sure. And then i caught a blockchain payroll in georgia here. Few years ago too. So i mean i've got an. I've caught a silver pike because actually northern pike in north america. There's actually three different paint jobs. You can catch one. The typical northern pike and then they have a silver pike which is a piked doesn't have any marketing at all. It's just like silvery blue color and the catch them mostly like in certain parts of canada and then like around the park late or park rapids. Part of minnesota's got several lakes that have silver pike and then the other one's kind of they call it. I guess a leopard. Pike and it's kind of looks a little bit like that southern pike. But they're they're not. They're even less common than the silver ones like. They catch a few in iron iowa and and wisconsin. But they're not very common anywhere so it kinda reminds me of you know bears a little bit. you know. i've i've got a couple of bears. And i've got the the browns. The blacks the sentiments. But i don't have a blonde and those are hard to get. I want a big blonde one. That's like fishermen and hunters really come together when you're when you're a guy who's or gal who's really going. After different species. Different colors different variations. There's a lot of crossover between hunting and fishing. Because like you said david you've got all these different black bear colorations. You wanna get danny and i of all these fish species we wanna get and it's just so cool because there's so much variation there unless more similarity in sea fishing and hunting as far as conservation elk counting. We're going to remove that that elk from the population and i think of elk deer and elk slam. You've got tuli. He got roosevelt. And you've got rocky right. And i've got two of the three. I'm waiting on that too early. But up in oregon or washington california california cal roosevelt's in washington and oregon and they are big. You know like we talked about thought the rocky. Mount was the biggest. But i guess it's not even close delta to the little one young but Body weight wise. A roosevelt can get into the in all twelve hundred pounds a big rocky a big rocky is like eight hundred. So they're more move size almost outside their base either. The bodybuilders adele world out l. Cutting you want to only harvest mature male right. We're leaving as many females as you can out there to grow that hurt and why are you taking that mature male out and leaving those juveniles. Because they're going to add to the gene pool the matured it's done. It's kind of the same thing. Pike fishing right yeah. Yeah and that's another thing we had pete. On and we talked a little bit about pike and muskie fishing with pete. And you know just talking about conservation. You know fishing. This is where fishing and hunting really kind of changed course a little bit just because you can release your you can. Yeah i release all my big fish. I never keep muskie's tigers well and you can tell my kids come from a fishing family. Because they say daddy. You're going to catch a antelope or you can go catch a deer. I'm like no. There's no catch and release in hunting. If i catch him with a bullet. He's done you know kind of thing but That's where it's it's pretty critical especially on certain bodies of water that you release fish like i think of tiger muskie especially tiger muskie's sterile fish they can't reproduce in so in wyoming utah idaho washington all these places that they've been planted if people are catching in keeping a bunch of tiger muskie's you there's the reason yeah exactly and they're really really like from tax payer perspective. They're really expensive raise. So if you have people that are harvesting they're gone i don't know imagine they taste like a pike. I would guess. But i've never kept when i couldn't. Yeah piker really good and smaller. But i don't like to kill the big pike. Then i don't re- i keep any muskie's and keep any tiger muskie's just because the main reason they stopped tiger musk's out west to reduce like rough fish species white suckers stuff like that so if you've remove them when they get legal which in wyoming is thirty six inches that's about when they start getting really good at eating the the rough they get big enough mouth around a couple pounds sucker and they're very good at it and that's the problem. When you put tiger muskie's area. That never had them before. It's like the biggest fish they've ever caught so i mean like a thirty inch tires a month to them. Well that's just a baby. You know the muskie fishermen and when they get to that legal size and a lot of them before they get that legal is people thump on the head and take them home to either get a or interview them or whatever so once they get close to legal size of most get taken out of the population right away with the bummer because highway rather catch them when they're over forty inches then. The only thirty inches are right. Whatever so i'm afraid bass lake ear in about another year or two is going to get a lotta harvest going on because the fish beginning legal and they might even be some legal ones in there now and before we get into the next part of the program because i wanna talk about pike about eating pike because danny i know that's one of your favorite fish to eat. I want talk about high mountain seasonings. So high seasonings is another one of our sponsors and they're a fantastic company. 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You know the owners the people that are working in the warehouse there really great folks so support an american business there. We really appreciate it. But i want to get back to pike because we do a lot of fish fries around my house. And danny's a part of a lot of those and contributes to a lot of those and you know he'll go catch northern pike. I went and caught some. I've got some in the freezer right now. In northern pike is a is a delicious fish to eat. So i wanted you to. Obviously they reproduce right yes they reproduce and time to Because there's a lot of states that wanna get rid of northern pike. But but danny tells a little bit about you know northern pike and how they're different from like a walleye or croppies as far as their table fair is a lot firmer and i like it a lot better but the worst part about it is they have a lot of y bones which is extra bones. Most fish don't have that are y shaped take some practice to get him out of them and i have to. I have to watch the video all the time. Because i don't do it often enough or else how pat because he seemed to have down pretty good but if you don't want to leave the skin on them because that skin is that slime on pike is really strong tasting so take off the skin and sometimes they got a pretty thick bar of red flesh underneath where their lateral line is. You might want to cut that out and then if you can get the why owns out. It's actually. I think it's better than wall. I bet most people like while. I better but so a little bit of a tangent as far as salmon goes you know when we're doing the salmon species you know if you're going to prepare your fish pretty quick talk about that fish lime. You can leave the skin on salmon and cook it and it's it's usually do on salmon but pike. You don't wanna do that. It'll give you a nasty taste that slime. We'll well there's a. There's a layer of fat on a salmon right between the skin and the meat. And if you're gonna freeze that fish for any length of time you know you're going on trip to alaska go ahead and scan your lays out and go ahead and vacuum seal without that layer of fat without the skin on there because they asked lime and the facts gets rancid on on fish with high all content. Golden trout are one of the worst ones. Catch golden trout and try to eat one. Eat it right away. Don't freeze it and try. 'cause they go bad really fast but if you catch one right out of the lake and i need it right there you know by the lake there. One of the best fish that are in wyoming to eat. But you don't wanna freeze them on one of patrick's fish fries and you know we talked about the uae bones but man that's that's awful close to halibut man. It's good stuff and you know you talked about the firmness of pike. One thing. I like about it just from a culinary perspective when i'm cooking. It is that northern pike holds together really well. And because it's more of a stake consistency. It's not just gonna fall apart on you like a like a fully of wall. I will so if you've never tried northern pike rice. I'm Like you would. While i and just try try it and i guarantee you. If you're like me and you like a little bit firmer texture me. You're going to love it because i mean to danny's point if if you keep that darker meat in there though it'll make it taste not gonna like it as much so definitely try to get that out in part of i learned this last year in this is from watching different youtube videos but bleeding the fish rate when you catch them. If you're gonna prepare them and bleeding them out really. Well helps reduce the amount of flash gets tainted with that read. You know kind of darker stuff so definitely bleed them out really good. Get them on ice. Get the skin off. Like danny said they are. The slimy little bugger. Gosh and dangerous. Trying whole yeah they are. He's a fish rapper. who handle pike. Most of the time. I've got lots of scars on my hands from pike and muskie's in pickerel especially pickerel because they're so small you don't really worry about them but they have very sharp teeth northern or musky so and. They're very athletic. Yeah they're all muscle three months. I was gonna ask you about that from cause i mean you have a fisheries biology degree. What is it that makes pike muskie's pickerel so unique. I mean as far as their body makeup and how they operate. Well they're primarily ambush predator. So they're built for like short bursts. Real high speed like they say a piker muskie can get up to like thirty five miles an hour and like three body lengths or something. So i mean they. They're sprinters like salmon or or a wipe or something like that where they fight you forever and ever and ever e they fires short into real intense battle but it doesn't last very long half a minute or men. Maybe or if you're using to light line it can. Last a lot longer can be extremely violent when they. Oh yeah they tend to liked. Come out of the what well not. So much northern pike but muskie's in tiger muskie and pick reelected jump a lot so a lot of time he'll hook them in in the first thing you'll see them come flying the almost like a tarp and so do you wanna use steel leaders for those two or your teeth. The teeth will bite your line off. Even little pickerel can bite your line off. Because they're while is have sharp teeth but they're like a like a pin kind of their sharp on the point. Yeah and a pike's teeth are pointed but they also have like a knife like blade so they cut you on the side or on the in so if you get bit by pike allowed times you don't feel it at first but they'll size india real bad and then it takes forever for to quit bleeding. I don't know if there's something in their saliva or or what. But i mean it'll bleed a long time and you won't even know you're cut it for. Yeah look down your hand just bleeding. Like a stuck pig. One way to think about is think about traffic on. That's like walleye tooth and then think about a sword not more hike tooth. I mean they're just built very differently. And i mean i would much rather get raped by big walleye and then by pike. Oh yeah a while i will. Pike will just gouge you really deep fish groupers when going after that i use a bogus grip most of the time but you have to use a grip the way because if you just grab them and try and lift him up by just the bogor grip it'll break jaw sometimes so you gotta use the grip but then support their body to with your other hand when you use a gripper. Because they'll tear their mouths and you want a real boettger grip or something almost exactly like 'cause allow the cheap knock. Offs aren't don't whereas a boga grips swivels so if that pike starch role and anya the he can roll freely with the lower grip whereas another kind of gripper. He's allowed the break is jar or something. Because it's you know lots of leverage their torque no and they do a gate a role so like when you get them up close once wanted to their prey. No it's more Just trying to get away from mechanism because when you start to get them close to the bank they get there and they go crazy if they go nuts and they'll roll roll roll roll roll and they'll wrap your lineup and if you have a bogo attached to him in our gripper that doesn't with like a boettger grip it'll just destroy their jaws because they're just so powerful they're just like a tuba muscle kind of like a freshwater barracuda or something. I guess it'd be a good way to. I've actually had a a musky break my rod. Because he's had him on my boettger up and he started spending. He got the line so tight that he snapped in higher off. She's so what other species have you fished for the that are kind of on this list and similar. I mean you just mentioned saltwater any other species that you know come to mind I've i've got almost every species in wyoming except for shovelnose sturgeon. And then i haven't caught a drum in wyoming. I've caught drone but i never caught him in wyoming. I've caught a bunch of species got striped bass white bass yellow bus wipers cop. Pretty much all the bass species having you. Well they keep adding more sunfish splitters. Now there's like eight different kinds of bass in like georgia or something. When they're used only be florida strain and and northern strain and then some small mouse and some some no the shoal bash s. Yeah but now they got. I don't know it depends on what drains like swannee bass. And i don't know like i said there's eight or nine different. What they call species now bass. So i came out with these royal slam clubs back in the eighties. And they had a bass lamb trout slam salmon slam for freshwater people and then they had a bunch of them for different ocean ones. Well i had the first trout slam the first bass lamb in the us but they they of threw them together kind of happen hazard. Because the bass lamb included large mouth small mouse bots joel bass but also had like stripers and wipe bass and wipers nilo bass and stuff. And they're not even the same found. That's two families and then like on the trout. They had like char and trout and pacific. Salmon king salmon and a coke any or similar need to be in the same. Well they are in the same. They're both pacific salmon. But i mean they include rainbows cutthroats in goldens which are actually now on caracas. And and brown trout and atlantic salmon are salamo and and char- are salve lioness and so they had like all three of those together but they didn't have like the salmon slams completely separate king and silver chum and sockeye and pink and then they throw in an atlantic salmon. Do even though it's different family. Well i don't have the salmon slam. I don't i don't have i only have kings and sauk is and then if you count coca new something different. Even though it's land lock stock. I three. I have a leg up on you. I did live in alaska. And they're all there so. Yeah well i. I went to las going back in eighty seven. Those king salmon are brutal house. Give them credit. They're the most brutal fish i've ever caught her. Strong fish is there's video on. We got up on one of the older podcast. I my best king. Salmon was in the net and out of the net. And i cried in the bottom vote for a little while. It was a huge kind of like that one that you have moment that i've got to hook three when i was up there and i caught to a forty pound and thirty five. Which for the keanae. That's nothing spectacular. But for most of the salmon streams and alaska that pretty good fish fish for listeners. I think the key the less anderson's king there is ninety. Eight pounds dealer dot extremely anderson was actually from thermopylae. I didn't know that. Yeah ken to some of the other. Anderson's there then. I don't know he my ex roommate. Wrong gore says dad or grandfather lived through. My name. Is harry linden. He knew that's pretty real well about the time that less caught that he's talking about how know it was like his neighbor or something anthromopor list. He got that on the bank rod and reel and it was like an hour hour and a half fights land. That is a monster. I've i've seen pictures out. But i never have actually seen them out. I was in dot and but we didn't stop in ford dealer to see it. It may not be there anymore. But i i'd say of all the fish i caught. The king sam's most brutal and then but if a sock i got that big i think sock i be stronger than a king because sock is just try they just greyhound across the water town for pound. The soccer has got spooked by the first two. I caught because i started out with a trout rod and eight pound test when they get into that main current in the keanae. Eight to twelve pound fish can break twenty pound test that that's somebody that doesn't know how to use their it up to ten before i started land and i mean up to twelve i guess before i started and i broke a couple of fish off for two reasons i think one was he was about to get into everybody else. In the second reason was when you're flipping in the river you tend to nick your line on the rock stuff. I mean those. Those are the times when you break. They make such long runs. You can't i mean they'll run like it's like hundred yards. East man is silver so they usually always get them out of the water once. And that's what i hear. I've seen kings come out of the water. And i saw guys come out of the water burnt two times. But they don't really come straight up they just kinda just adult or something along the surface. Yeah exactly well in danny. You've done a lot of different things. Like i know you. Don't go around tooting your own horn. But you've you've held some records to. I mean you know you world world-record house in record-chasing phaser for a while back in the eighties where i had like forty five or so. We're outlying class world records either in the fresh water fishing hall of famer or the idea. faa but. i kind of gave that up here. I don't know ten twelve years ago but had a lot of records for golden trout which is used to be. One of my specialties. Tad's that's a whole nother podcasts. Do on goldens. What would be your advice for somebody that wanted to chase a record of or something like that. If you're going for records you need to get either fresh water fishing hall of fame record book or idea. Faa record book which you can get by contacting them and send them a certain amount of money or if you join you get a free record book and then you look it over and you see what what species available to you nearby and then you see what the records are for the different line classes like i said i had a lot of out records and then it had a fair amount amount whitefish records to because they keep records on pretty much every kind of fish. So do the for fish. That aren't real popular for mountain whitefish. Most people consider them a nuisance and some of the like lower line class like two and four pound test only takes pretty small fish. You know like a pounder what the records aren't anymore. And so you lodi your reels with line in those classes that you think you can catch fish big enough to break and you just keep fishing until you get them now. I remember when you cut some of those bigger fish. Because when i was a little kid i always look forward to coming to riverton to see my grandparents but also to come see danny because he was always catching really cool fish and i remember one time going over there and you had this massive golden trout. That you it getting to see that. How big a golden trout. Are we talking my biggest ones twenty one and a quarter lance lake. I've caught one. That was three eleven my heaviest. But i had one on. I lost one time. There's a little over four. I think naps the biggest one i've ever seen is probably not quite five pounds that i didn't catch him because i used to fish him real hard in the summer above lander for a few years there and i got where i could catch them fairly. Good night. I could tell you know. This is pretty good. Because i call him phone but that that is one fish that on my list to catch is go get a goal. I wanna get a big golden. Yeah male golden. Spawning colors is one of the prettier. Fish is about like a male rookie. As far as how they are and they're really annoying the catch because you'll see him a lot of the time and they'll come charging up to your flyer lure like they're gonna hit it and then they'll stop right in front of it and open and close her mouth while they're looking at it and they'll just turn around and so they go through the motions long time now if you get two or three of them they get competitive than one of them will charge and grab it to keep his buddy from getting it but if you get one. They're awful hard to catch a lot of the time. Now's thousand why i started. Fishing was pretty challenging. To catch like muskie's when i couldn't go muskie fishing. I'd go chase golden but you gotta be in pretty good shape because almost all the golden child lakes or ten thousand feet or higher. Now they're from california originally and they were all Stocked horseback up in the winds originally. Originally they stock them with helicopters and airplanes but back in the old days took mike milk cans full of on on newell's or something brought him in but now you know they use planes and sort of they doing pretty good in the lakes as for i mean. I think they're starting to come back. They had a real bad freeze above land or or the snow got deep enough that allow them. Lakes winter killed back in ninety eight ninety nine that winter is working in ladder and we had a forty eight inch snow one week and then about a week and half later we had a fifty two inch snow over there and of course. There's a lot deeper in the mountains. I win in that next spring as soon as early summer. Since i could get in there and i didn't see a golden route one in my normal lakes and in the springtime when you see them you know they're run the shoreline looking for places to spawn and stuff. So you didn't see any. That wasn't a good sign. But then they and then for a long time. They didn't have any stock because they they used to have a brood. Stock lake over by pinedale called surprise lake and they had a forest fire over there and because of that forest fire the lake water got to warm the golden star dying out and so they lost their brood stocks so then they had to make a deal with california more golden trout for a long time. They're california had a moratorium where they wouldn't wouldn't let any goldens lead the state. Because i think they're mad because the the ones they sent to wyoming you know ended up getting a lot bigger than they get in california and he did no. Yeah as all the biggest goldens are wyoming. I mean the world records like well. I've got i've got a new deal. Forum we'll trade Some grizzly bears more deal with gasol bulls for bonus too but that sounds like a good idea. Maybe they should take the grizzly bear off their state flag avenue. Anyway i i really got into golden trout thing and then a few years ago started this ultimate angler deal i fish so many times and you know fished all over the state and so i know you know where to catch big whatever certain times a year and so i had an advantage over a lot of people and it when it started because i knew you know where to go to catch a lot of these then also we're really lucky here in fremont county because we have some of the most diverse fisheries in the whole state because we got the excellent bass fish excellent walleye fishing traveled excellent trout fishing and burbot and all sorts of stuff whereas most a lot of the state. You know just like trout only or or warm water species. Only we have a lot more variety like invoice and you can get most sauger walleye perch crappie rainbows brown around like seven species just auto boyce. And if you're if you're good at or luckier or whatever then you go up like in the winter mountains and you can get your gold and then you're greyling and then while them lakes yeah white fish and then. Some of them lakes up their house. Blake spikes pretty hard to get. Like above lander i the best place to get big spike over like it sunshine over by matete see brooks brooks hasn't but i mean it takes a twenty inch blake. That's pretty unusual for an twenty and split gotta brooks and for our listeners. Danny was the first one in wyoming even in spite of his cancer to do the ultimate anglers so to get the ultimate angler. You have to catch ten managers ten different species of mastering sized fish. So it's i'm at eight right now at. Its its challenging. You got to put in a lot of time and you have to know what you're doing you have to fish for fish that you may be. Don't fish very much. You're never felt like. I still haven't figured out how to get my sturgeon yet. We're gonna figure that one. And then like i said saga because fremont county one of the best places to catch a master angler. So master angler sauger. It has to be pretty three inches thick sauger just seeing guys big saga. Some of them are pretty easy like the rainbow trout by the easiest one to get twenty inches. I mean you can get them out of boys below the dam pretty big ten to twelve out of boyce and one day if you hit it right yeah and then like large mouth bass is pretty easy in fremont county because me awaits. Got lots of sixteen inches on large ma. There was a lot of sixteen inch and bigger bass in camille. Wait there's bass at big like in the ponds down there at rendezvous site and places like that to can't get the small mouth here no we don't have small mouth and we don't have northern pike in our well not officially. Yeah we had order or the pike for a little while because they stock some accidentally and probably ten years ago. But i think they're all gone now. Yeah danny danny. And i talk about this. A lot is the if you wanna get kids and people interested in fishing. Mastering lower programs are really good way to do that. Because it gives you a challenge and it gives you something to shoot for. Yeah you're allowed to keep our released the fish you just have to have a good picture of it so if people are wanting to eat while i or whatever and they catch a twenty three and twenty because i think wall is only twenty three twenty three. It's that's fairly doable. In ocean lake gore boys in our meeting the wind river sometimes and i know most people that kills them the turn awhile. I lose well after you catch him. You don't have to turn him loose if you don't want to turn back because i i don't like to keep big fish any species very well because you're messing up gene pool somewhat for master angle. You just need a photo with a length and the can release up fish. Yeah if you want to are you can keep. It doesn't matter. You just have to have a good pitcher with with some kind of a measuring device and i think they like it better if you have a pitcher you holding it to bet it's not required them and i think there's only like six to ten mass or ultimate anglers so far in wyoming the completed ten. I'm working on my second ten. And i've been trying to catch different species than i turned in for my first ten. And i i like to short twenty four total so i mean guy you know depending on where you live in wyoming you have a lot of different opportunities at it because it's twenty four species so lots of variety like keyhole has a if you went up to keyhole. Get quite a few of them. They have drum in their small mouth. All mile croppies northern pike perch while is all is i mean. They're six right there so they have the so they had the north american grand slam was well some in the hunting realm right and it's twenty nine of the big news species and this is just a state thing. They don't really have a national thing. But i'm sure they probably will someday. Just give a little more motivation to go. Try fishing other places. I guess is and other species. Like guys specializing walleyes. If they decide they want to try and get a all angler and force them to fish for something besides wall on egger musky pike or something like that. Yeah and some of the species a really hard to get like. I don't think anybody's turned into shelves and those sturgeon yet. And there's only been two or three soccer i think. And then which. I have one of them and i think one tiger muskie that i know of and i happen to be fish for them a lot so i kinda know what i'm doing but my own means tiger muskie population is really low because for about six or eight years. We couldn't get tiger musky so there's just starting to get the program going again and i think he could probably get a master angler out of out of bass lake or bad water pond probably either this year or next year but most of the best tiger muskie fishing where you have a chance to get like a forty inch bigger. Be helier l. a. k. And they're more up on the northeastern part of the state. So you know as far as just tips tackle when you're going out for a specific species are you going to take a whole bunch of lures or you're gonna take just a few lures and a on one real combo i mean what's your plan of attack. And what's the reason for fishing for just around here. I generally just use my medium light spinning rod with the six pound test on it. And then i'm after walleye trout. You can use similar lures. Like i like suspending crank baits mostly for them and but if i'm going bass fishing i go heavier line because bass like to bury into the reads and stuff as soon as you hook them so you have to have heavier line to pull them out. Saw go up to like ten or twelve pounds on or i like to use about twenty pound braid mostly it. Was there a difference in grade of mono between brands are is pretty much any brand mono similar to another brand. Any of the big name brands are are decent. My favorite is strand but a lot of people like berkeley. But when i used to fish for records berkeley lined in always break where it was supposed to size strand most of the time because it seemed to break more consistent but but like stan and and berkeley and maxima. There's like four or five brands that they're all they're all decent quality. I wouldn't buy the little three hundred or six hundred yards spools for dollar sixty nine shake their line. That stuff's not usually to dependable. There's two reasons for that. One you talked about the breaking points you know breakaways and consistent but also i've noticed with that really cheap line. It messes up on the spool. If you're using spending rattle tends to tangle lot absolutely yeah. Where's the better quality lines. Don't do that as bad. See danny he he. He's a string guy. I'm a berkeley guy. I think berkeley's gotten pretty good over the last few years. But i mean they both work really. Well i've used both of them and their their their high quality. I mean they'll they'll do the job so when you're going for these trophy fish as their specific not that you go to not or i mean. There's any fishing not work. Well when i'm using smaller stuff like i do around here. I usually just use a improve improve clinch to attach my lures to my line. But if i'm going after musky. Pike or something like that. I usually use like pal amar not to hold my leader to my life because a lotta times use them braided line when you're fishing for them and and improved clinical slip as braid so slick but powell marvel hold. So that's that's the two knots us. I don't i don't you know like not too different lines together with with nail. Not or all that very often union ons have. It's usually have to look at the direction devontae. Because i don't i and to but i can tell you pal are nodar improved clinton nicely because i do it so many times so pretty much. You know worldwide you can kinda kinda take a few lures and you can go hunt some water down and catch fish right. Well if i have no idea what i'm fishing for. Yeah like when you're in a foreign country is it really is the technique and style a whole lot. Different or is it your. There's some pretty big similarities. I i thought it was. There's a lot more similarities and differences. But they do have regional lures. They like better over like in russia. Like i said they. They couldn't figure out why. I wanted fish for pike in the first place. They don't really consider them that important. They're big on time and lennox and and allow those big men of species and stuff. Pike or too much work i guess because why bones and stuff. So but they're big on like spoons and spinners which is what a lot of northern pike fishermen us all the time here itis talk top water addict. Because i've i've there's so much more fun to catch fish on top. And i thought that was pike would probably hit top water pretty and they. There's like fishing river musk's but with a little bit smaller top water. And i got addicted to dry fly fly fishing. I fly fish. I've spent a fish bait fish. What whatever right. I archer han rifle. But there's something about when you lay a nice if there's a hatch going on the trout feeding on you lay that fly out. There and a fish erupts out of the water. You know coming or in danny's case and he got me hooked on this when you throw rambler or a flopper and you see this huge. Can't shoot straight up in the air because the fish come straight up under exciting or seeing that shadow even like you know when you can see the fish kind of come off the bottom and start to follow your louis like. Oh crap here comes. It's about to happen. It's about to get real real real hard if you haven't fished top art too much to set the hook way too soon because you hear that splash and you wanted to set the hook instantly. You gotta wait until you feel the way the fish before you set the hook because a lot of times. They don't really have it in their mouth when that first exploded. Happy to open. And you pull it. Like i did over at la k. And you put right out of their mouth. It's brutal make you cry. Patrick and i went to a lake and we brook trout fishing. And i got to catch a flu too wet flies instead of dry flies but i got the site cast because they were where we were fishing. You could see him and it was pretty cool to. There's a couple of times. I've pulled out of their mouth and danny won a couple of years ago. Wasn't it a couple years ago. You caught like a twenty four inch for brook trout and caught it on extra and the thing about. I don't know the thing about danny is for. I've got a fish with danny a lot. He's he's very good at finding different species like probably one of the better unsung multi-species anglers out there. He's been able to catch a lot of different things. He's had lots of different records and it's always fun to fish. 'cause i always learn something new and one of the things that i think i've learned about. Danny that is kinda unique. But it's a good thing to remember is when you have confidence in allure in you have confidence in how you work the lure and you're good at it that's usually a good thing to stick with like you don't have to be fancy you just have to be good at at your craft. Whatever that is. And i don't i don't change. Lures a lot during the trip sometimes muskie fishing. If i can't get anything to go all change but usually when i go muskie fishing. I'm in my waiter. So i only can carry like four or five lures with me at a time or as you watched the tv shows you know on the guys in the both they got like a hundred lures hanging in the side of their voter. These great big huge tackle boxes full lures. And i found that if you get four or five different kinds of those have confidence in that usually works just as good. But that's just my opinion. Well in on not not that i'm comparing too much similarity but growing up doing steelhead out of a drift boat. We did a lot of plugging and there was a couple plugs in that boat. That were just tuned right and just had the right rattling them that they would outperform other lures. You'd buy hotshot plugs right you. Buy them at the store k. Fifteen or whatever you're using and you'd get a certain silver one and we had finished it so much that the silver privately gone it's almost opaque now but it was tuned in. It rattled just right that you could put another lure the same package. Open it up on the next to it. And i nine out of ten times. It was that other lewer. That was added muscular. Is that the one wooden ones especially like you might get one out of five. That actually runs away. It needs to where it really catches fish and maybe one or two of the other ones. You might get tuned where they weren't good. But i usually have a couple dogs that you just can't catch anything and when you're spending twenty to fifty bucks on allure. That's kind of painful muscular. When when i used to fish in minnesota a lot the guides we'd go into the muskie shops and they'd buy a bunch of lures test out and they keep the ones that work and the other ones they'd bring return you know and i don't know if the shops knew what was going on or not but they made sure they got the ones that worked right like suix and stuff like that. So i wouldn jerk bait and it's got a dive and rise action. It's one of the most popular muscular. There is and like only by ten with work or whatever you know and maybe a couple of others you could get tuned work right. Well i know when you're first starting out with any new lure any new fish species you know take just dry fly fishing for example. You know once you once you find that. Fly that those fish oil except it's really easy to go back to the storm became. I need ten more this mosquito pattern this size but when you first out there i hit hitting that water. You know. it's it's tough to figure out. What is this fish actually going to accept its food. And and my wasting my you know. Woolly bugger is a good good all around anywhere you go. If you throw a willie. Bugger out something eventually. Catch something but the same day. The same spot if you go from that. Woolly bugger to a mosquito pattern or midge or gnat. Or abe's headed name for whatever it might be. You might catch 10x fish. it sounds like with pike. It's more just hitting the water and getting a presentation right in the right spot. That's how it is with most fish. Like whenever rob lowe comes out with a new suspending jerk. I buy wanted to try it and solve them my body. I really liked some. I didn't like that well. And then after you find one you like it still have to work with it to figure out what the right twitching and stuff is to do to make it work right cadence and then i also i tend to like modify mine because a lot of them either sing too fast or raised too fast and i mess with the waiting on them and stuff so a lot of mine. Don't look even stop. Because i've messed with him a lot but they do exactly what i want them to do. And then it just kills me when i lose one because as you spent all this time getting it just right and then i get fouled hooked her on iraq or break off a big carp or something accidentally on it. Just kills me. It's no fun in that favorite lewer. I've i've had a few of those. Danny seen me about lose my mind a lot of times. I'll try and go away and after him down tonight i i ran out of a certain kind of robert i really like and i had some deep diving ones but they dive. Td for whereas fishing. So i cut the bills back on on one. And then i waited too. Where rewrote was really slow. And i got it whereas working really good. I'd caught several fish on it. Including as what i caught. I didn't catch that brown on it. I guess but i caught some fish on it and so i really was liking it. I got hung up though the down. Boys and i don't know it's probably been a week and a half ago at night. It was like eight o'clock at night pitch dark and here. i am. Put my waiters on wade out in the river trying to get that stupid loose and it was all. The wind was blowing and those rocks down there pack. Got so much al dion. I'm as get in and out without following. But i came pretty close My net is using kind of like a tripod help. Hold and i'm sitting here. You know trying to get that thing. Lose holding a flashlight. In my mouth i finally got spent. Most people are just broke it off and said well. We'll have to get another one. But i'd spent so much time trying to get that thing just right. I really didn't want to go but a couple of times we've had that favorite plug steelhead fishing. Hang up and i've road quite a ways back upstream to get to lure back. Dang near break your rod because you rod folds under the drift boat and being pushed downstream. So yeah when is a little. When i was in high school. I didn't have a whole lot of money. And i really liked panther. Martin spinners will. They're like to some a piece and back then. That was pretty expensive. So if i got hung up with the panther martin. I go way now to get it well. One time. i was fishing by the white pole bridge. So it's pretty good brown trout fishing there. And there's this little island and had a tree end. And of course i managed to get my lou hung up in that tree somehow and so i waited out to the island. I started climbing that tree. And i got up there when to reach out to grab that branch that had the panther martin on it snapped and fell into the water. My friend around the bank just laugh and his butt off he goes well. Was it worth. And i said yeah guy lure back but as like a two dollar and twenty nine cent panther martin whatever but a bet got it back but i got wet and somebody would have had a video camera this back before video cameras were really any even around. That could have probably made some money on that. America's funniest home video all that stupid stuff just to get a two dollar and twenty nine cent panther martin backers. That's worth it though it's worth it. Well it's been awesome having you on to talk about this. I think we're going to have to have you back on talk about goldens especially because i know there's a lot of guys out there. That are big. Golden trout chasers. And so it'd be kinda fun for them to hear a little bit about some of your insights. Since you've been there and done that but again i just want to say thanks for coming on and thanks for all you've taught me about fishing because you you've taught anything or not. I'll you taught me a bunch. So dan it really was a pleasure to be on this side and i'm glad you came on. Yeah it it's fun to hear about russia and france and italy and all these other get back to that real quick. Italian people are on some of the people in the world and french. People are some of the most unfriendly people. I met some nice people in the small towns and france but like in the cities. They're just they don't like americans and actually they don't like anybody. I don't think and how about russia russia. The people are cold at first. But like you're supposed to smile at people you don't know out there that's offensive to them. They think you're trying to pull someone or whatever but after they get to know you. There are some of the nicest people i met. I mean. I made several friends over there. But it's definitely a police state over there too. It was it was kind of scary. I gotta say. I've never seen russians. Eat so much fish in my life yet. The his guide brought his bride to wyoming. After danny had gone out there they came over here and i did a big fish wildlife. I think that guy's wife had three or four plays. I don't know if she had eight the whole time. She's out here. She is really like fish man he he told me later on that. She's now a high point of her trip over here was to have that wall. I will patrick. I take it serious. We had so much fun with them but it was really cool to meet him and so yeah. Thanks for sharing the story. Danny it's it's it's been awesome so again guys. If you wanna hear more rag cast outdoors go to rag casts our doors dot com and definitely give us a rating on your favorite podcast streaming service. Thanks again everybody.

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