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"expression predatory journal" Discussed on Science Friction

"This is an ABC podcast Sir. Science Fiction Hey on the Tesha Mitchell. Welcome search this week. The pursuit of a Predator as a reporter. You you get all kinds of of little suggestions. Tips complaints yes. And you can't deal with them all. This one intrigued me. I had started to hear about similar complaints and sort of once. You hear enough of of them. The signal adds up. You think. Maybe there's a story here. What was I seeing? What what the clues that? That major smell a rash. I was a researcher myself. I was a faculty librarian at my university and I did a research probably starting five six years ago I I was always looking for publishing opportunities. I started getting letters and I started to receive these emails. Sort of saying extremely nice. Nice things to me that basically said call for Paper Journal Editors Wanting Me To submit my manuscript to their journal and they had lots of grammatical errors in addition to that one in the emails and then generally speaking editor. I don't say very nice things about you and they don't typically they don't write to you and ask you to submit a manuscript. Will you ever tempted to submit. No no I mean I'm a clinical epidemiology in some of these journals were literally from Soil Science Right. Why would somebody from soil science be asking me and saying Nice things about me? They wouldn't no me from anywhere he's smell. I did maybe several but that rash or several thousand rats via now well and truly on the loose predatory publishes and the predatory journals have become a mega industry global in reach ending ending destructive potential. In fact you're going to hear from someone who believes that this industry represents the biggest threat to science since the inquisition Shen the. US Federal Court recently ordered one of the biggest of these companies to pay up over fifty million US dollars. Only international headquartered voted in Hyderabad in India but also operating in the US claims to publish hundreds of scientific and medical journals. It was found to employ deceptive business practices essentially entrapping scientists to other publishing their journals or participate in conferences. So does the ruling site. bye-bye predatory publishes. Well let's see if Any of that money actually moves anywhere. It's not clear with a mix ex-group will cough up that fifty million dollars which is an estimate of how much the company made from customers over a six-year period or whether it will appeal. We sent a list list of questions to its representatives but yet to receive a reply but it is nice clear message to all the Sake Journal. Publishers of the world that they're being watched touched and there could be consequences. John Bohannon a science journalist and now director of science at an artificial intelligence startup in San Fran called primer. They didn't basically slipping under the radar and using American Canadian and European banks to move money millions of dollars of money from elicit gains. So this court ruling basically makes extremely inconvenient to do now. Joan was asked to present evidence in the case brought against the annex group by the US Federal Trade Commission because he'd had an unusually Hansa with the publisher so mix was one of hundreds of publishers offers. That I tested in sting operation. I wrote some computer code to generate thousands of very bad scientific papers. And what happened next these kind of legendary in science circles back in two thousand twelve John was reporting for the Journal. Science and the expression expression predatory journals wasn't in common news There was a guy named Jeffrey. You who was probably the only person around making a big stink about this and trying to actually Shine a light on it. It was very very bold effort. He had something called feels list or at least it became known as beal's list. My name is Jeffrey Bill. And I'm a retired academic librarian from the University of Colorado Denver professor. Beal beal's blacklist fame and a climb and Notaro He was the first to coin. The phrase predatory journals the Journal. Publishers hated being malysz because it stigmatizes them and meant that their income was decreased. Most of the predatory publishers are predatory not only in their publishing but in just the way they operate in general and they would use the heckler's actors veto. They would call the library director and complain about me and they would try to annoy people at my university as much as possible in order to manipulate those people at the university to make me stop the list so that their complaints would stop. I also received several threats of legal action including think it was in twenty twelve international threatened to sue me for one billion dollars one billion dollars. It was just a threat what I learned from it is that you can basically basically pay an attorney five hundred dollars in all right a threatening letter so they they did that but they never followed through with. It was never introduced in any court personal consequences consequences for Jeffrey of running. That black least were immense. And I'll come back to that. One estimate suggests that there are at least eight thousand predatory journals. This is just one publisher of many. But Jeffrey Bill provocatively calls it. The Evil Empire of Predatory Publishing I stand Dan by that statement and what they do is. They've really hurt a lot of people. You know the scholarly publishing system works on the honor system and people operate in good faith but oh mix international has has totally broken all that down. They use a lot of spamming to solicit article manuscripts from researchers they have journal titles that match the titles of respected journals. Usually one word off enough to confuse people that might be the respected journal in the `field they will at People's names to their editorial boards without the person's permission people from top universities top researchers in the field and they'll use their identity to promote the journal and when the person finds out about it and ask them to remove their name. They don't remove it they just leave it there because they're operating operating from foreign country. There's really nothing you can do about it and especially prey on young researchers in emerging researchers researchers who don't speak English as their first language it's not just scientists from developing countries that are targeted although that easing acknowledged problem clinical epidemiologist. David Mo- assays the crosses reaches into some of America's most delayed institutions including Harvard in an analysis that we did where we looked at a close to two thousand thousand articles published in Predator journals. We found that actually the most frequent corresponding authors were from what we would call first. World countries countries would lots of money and lots of resources that is troubling very very troubling because it suggests that at these institutions authors may not Be Aware of predatory journals and we need to obviously ramp up some educational activities. People think that they're sending the manuscript to a legitimate respected journal. When it's really just a phony dough mix international journal and then they quickly accept the paper without any peer review and then send them an invoice and at that point the authors realized that something is wrong because There was really no peer reviewed done yet. The papers accepted and they have this two thousand dollars invoice that comes through email and the olmecs demanding payment. Most of them asked to withdraw the paper when they realized that they've been duped. But then oh mix says has you can't withdraw your paper unless you pay US withdrawal fee. An often than olmecs will publish the article quickly and one of their journals and then and they can't submit it anywhere else. Because that would be duplicate submission it would be publishing the same article twice. which is something not supposed to do that? Nothing about predatory regionals. He's what he's supposed to happening science as John Bowen discovered when he sent them a taste. Yes yeah so I just wanted some data. It's frustrating to have such an enticing story of you know bad actors that Potentially Ricky and millions of ill gotten dollars dollars and not get some data to find out if it's true so we appear stay in molecular biology from Oxford oppy slave. He plotted an experiment which was pretty straightforward. And the idea in a nutshell is if I submit a really and I mean truly bad scientific paper to your journal title and you accept it with no sign of any peer review and you ask me for money then you're you're a fake journal publisher. Yeah John Wanted to test how easy it was to get published in a predatory journal it can usually take many months years even to get a pipe into a reputable scientific journal. And even then it's not a given. That's partly because of what's called Peer Review essential to the scientific process. So you do an experiment. You brought it up reporting your results. Submitted to a journal and then it gets pulled to shreds.

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"expression predatory journal" Discussed on Science Friction

Science Friction

11:27 min | 1 year ago

"expression predatory journal" Discussed on Science Friction

"ABC podcasts Scott. Chinn hey on the Tesha Mitchell. Welcome nick the quake the doot of a Predator as a reporter. You get all kinds of of little suggestions. Tips complaints this. And you can't deal with them all. This one intrigued me. I had started to hear about similar complaints and sort of once. You hear enough of them the signal adds up you think. Maybe there's a story here. What was I seeing What what the clued that? That Mela rash well. I was a researcher myself. I was a faculty librarian at my university and I did. Research probably starting five six years ago I I was always looking for publishing opportunities. I started getting letters and I started to receive these emails. Sort of saying extremely nice. Nice things to me that basically said call for Paper Journal Editors Wanting Me To submit my manuscript to their journal and they had lots of grammatical errors in addition to that one and the emails and then generally speaking editor. I don't say very nice things about you and they don't typically they don't write to you and ask you to submit a manuscript. Will you ever tempted to meet. No no I mean I'm a clinical epidemiologist in some of these journals were lifted from soil. Science right why would somebody from soil science be asking me saying Nice things about me. They wouldn't no me from anywhere he's smells a rat. I did maybe several but that rash or several thousand read via now. Well and truly on the loose predatory publishes and the Predatory Journal has become a mega industry global in reach ending ending destructive potential. In fact you're going to hear from someone who believes that the industry represents the big threat to don in the inquisition shen the US. Federal Court recently ordered one of the biggest of the company to pay up over fifty million. US dollars only make. International headquartered voted in Hyderabad in India but also operating in the US climbed the publish hundreds of medical journals found to employ deceptive business practices essentially entrapping fantasy to offer published in the Journal or participate in conferences. The Doug the ruling bye-bye predatory publishes well. Let's see if Any of that money actually moves anywhere. It's not clear with a the group will cough up that fifty million dollars which is an estimate of how much the company made from customers over a period. All whether we'll appeal we tend to leave leaked of question to its representative yet to receive a reply but it is nice. Clear message to all the Sake Journal. Publishers of the world that they're being watched watched and there could be consequences. Joan Bohannon thought journalists and now director to add an artificial intelligence data in San Fran called primer. They didn't biscuit slipping under the radar. And using American Canadian European banks to move money millions of dollars of money from a complicit gains so this court ruling basically makes that extremely inconvenient to do now. John was to present evidence in the kite board again. Anthem IQ Group by the Federal Trade Commission. Because he'd had an unusually Hansa with the publisher so all mix was one of hundreds of publishers offers that I tested in sting operation. I wrote some computer code to generate thousands of very bad scientific papers. They have been negative kind of legendary inside the back in two thousand twelve John Reporting for the general died and the Expression Predatory Journal Common News. there was a guy named Geoffrey Yu who was probably the only person around making in a big public. Stink about this and trying to actually Shine a light on it. It was very very bold effort. He had something called feels list or at least it became known as beal's lest my name is Jeffrey Bill. And I'm a retired academic librarian from University of Colorado Denver. But make the deal. Beal Blackley fame and a climb and karate he was the first to coin. The Phrase Predatory Journal the Journal. Publishers hated being malysz because it it stigmatizes them in meant that their income was decreased. Most of the predatory publishers are predatory not only in their publishing but in just the way they operate in general and they would use the heckler's actors veto. They would call the library director and complain about me and they would try to annoy people at my university as much as possible in order to manipulate those people at the university to make me stop the list so that their complaints would stop. I also received several threats of legal action including think it was is in twenty twelve international threatened to sue me for one billion dollars one billion dollars. It was just a threat. What I learned from it is that you can basically basically pay an attorney? Five hundred dollars all right a threatening letter so they they did that but they never followed through with. It was never introduced in any court consequences consequences. Jeffrey of running that black leaked were immense. And I'll come back to that. One estimate suggests that there are at least eight thousand predatory journals it is just one publisher of many but Jeffrey Bill provocatively cold. The the evil empire of Predatory Publishing I stand Dan by that statement and what they do is they really hurt a lot of people. You know the scholarly publishing system works on the honor system and people operate in good faith but oh mix international has has totally broken all that down. They use a lot of spamming to solicit article manuscripts from researchers they have journal titles that match the titles of respected journals. Usually one word off enough to confuse people that it might be the respected journal in the `field they will at People's names to their editorial boards without the person's permission people from top universities top researchers in the field and they'll use their identity to promote the journal and when the person finds out about it and ask them to remove their name. They don't remove it they just leave it there because they're operating operating from foreign country. There's really nothing you can do about it. And they especially prey on young researchers in emerging researchers researchers who don't speak English as their first language. It's not just dont. As from developing countries that a toggle though that even acknowledged problem clinical epidemiologist. David moas taste the Croats at reaching into some of America's most delayed institutions including Harvard in the analysis that we did where we looked at a close to two thousand thousand articles published in Predator journals. We found that actually the most frequent corresponding authors were from what we would call first world countries countries with lots of money and lots of resources that is troubling very troubling because it suggests that at these institutions authors may not Be Aware of predatory journals and are we need to obviously ramp up some educational activities. People think that they're sending the manuscript to a legitimate respected journal. When it's really just a phony dough mix international journal and then they quickly accept the paper without any peer review and then send them an invoice and that point the authors realized that something is wrong because There was really no peer reviewed done yet papers accepted and they have this two thousand dollars invoice that comes through email and the olmecs demanding payment. Most of them asked to withdraw the paper when they realized that they've been duped. But then omits says says you can't withdraw your paper unless you pay US withdrawal fee. An often than olmecs will publish the article quickly and one of their journals and then and they can't submit it anywhere else. Because that would be duplicate submission it would be publishing the same article twice. which is something not supposed to do that? Nothing about Predatory Street Journal devoted to pose to happening time as John Bohannon Govett when he hit them. Attest yes yeah so I just wanted some data. It's frustrating to have such an enticing story of you know bad actors that potentially raking in millions of ill-gotten dollars dollars and not get some data to find out if it's true. We stay in molecular biology from offered. Clave he plotted experiment which was pretty straightforward. And the idea in a nutshell is if I submit a really and I mean truly bad scientific paper to your journal final and you accept it with no sign of any peer review and you asked me for money then you're you're a fake journal Publisher Sharma sure. Yeah John Wanted to take to how easy it was to get published in a predatory journal it can usually take many months used even to get a pipe into a reputable contact general and even then it's not a given that partly because of what's called Peer Review essential to the conduct protest. You Do Fairmont you. You brought it up reporting your results. Submit it to a journal and then it pulled destroyed by a bunch of other daunting and though it should that Pity Review It's designed to Cape on rigorous behrman twelve and the results real usable Andrey projectable many predatory regional diet. I Conduct Peer Review Body Fat. Most of them don't do appear review. They go through the motions of Peer Review. They might have like a stock doc period. You that they use for every paper that's submitted and basically the papers are accepted in just published almost immediately as soon as the invoices paid and so pure review view is it's it's a fundamental component of how honest journals carry out their business of looking at manuscripts and seeing seeing whether they're fatally flawed or whether they can be improved and whether they're acceptable for publication dive Moa Director of the dentists agenda in a Lola at the Ottawa Hospital the institute at the University of Ottawa. Hey and colleagues just hosted a global summit on predatory journals because they what a bill to content as Ivo what they are and how to shut them down so is these sorts of behaviors and many other behaviors. That are not trustworthy. gately deal when something is published in a scholarly journal that doesn't represent validated science. Then then it pollutes the whole scientific record and can't build on junk science or if you do the future science isn't real science either.

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The predatory publishers sucking science's blood (Summer Season)

Science Friction

09:46 min | 1 year ago

The predatory publishers sucking science's blood (Summer Season)

"Quake the doot of a Predator as a reporter. You get all kinds of of little suggestions. Tips complaints this. And you can't deal with them all. This one intrigued me. I had started to hear about similar complaints and sort of once. You hear enough of them the signal adds up you think. Maybe there's a story here. What was I seeing What what the clued that? That Mela rash well. I was a researcher myself. I was a faculty librarian at my university and I did. Research probably starting five six years ago I I was always looking for publishing opportunities. I started getting letters and I started to receive these emails. Sort of saying extremely nice. Nice things to me that basically said call for Paper Journal Editors Wanting Me To submit my manuscript to their journal and they had lots of grammatical errors in addition to that one and the emails and then generally speaking editor. I don't say very nice things about you and they don't typically they don't write to you and ask you to submit a manuscript. Will you ever tempted to meet. No no I mean I'm a clinical epidemiologist in some of these journals were lifted from soil. Science right why would somebody from soil science be asking me saying Nice things about me. They wouldn't no me from anywhere he's smells a rat. I did maybe several but that rash or several thousand read via now. Well and truly on the loose predatory publishes and the Predatory Journal has become a mega industry global in reach ending ending destructive potential. In fact you're going to hear from someone who believes that the industry represents the big threat to don in the inquisition shen the US. Federal Court recently ordered one of the biggest of the company to pay up over fifty million. US dollars only make. International headquartered voted in Hyderabad in India but also operating in the US climbed the publish hundreds of medical journals found to employ deceptive business practices essentially entrapping fantasy to offer published in the Journal or participate in conferences. The Doug the ruling bye-bye predatory publishes well. Let's see if Any of that money actually moves anywhere. It's not clear with a the group will cough up that fifty million dollars which is an estimate of how much the company made from customers over a period. All whether we'll appeal we tend to leave leaked of question to its representative yet to receive a reply but it is nice. Clear message to all the Sake Journal. Publishers of the world that they're being watched watched and there could be consequences. Joan Bohannon thought journalists and now director to add an artificial intelligence data in San Fran called primer. They didn't biscuit slipping under the radar. And using American Canadian European banks to move money millions of dollars of money from a complicit gains so this court ruling basically makes that extremely inconvenient to do now. John was to present evidence in the kite board again. Anthem IQ Group by the Federal Trade Commission. Because he'd had an unusually Hansa with the publisher so all mix was one of hundreds of publishers offers that I tested in sting operation. I wrote some computer code to generate thousands of very bad scientific papers. They have been negative kind of legendary inside the back in two thousand twelve John Reporting for the general died and the Expression Predatory Journal Common News. there was a guy named Geoffrey Yu who was probably the only person around making in a big public. Stink about this and trying to actually Shine a light on it. It was very very bold effort. He had something called feels list or at least it became known as beal's lest my name is Jeffrey Bill. And I'm a retired academic librarian from University of Colorado Denver. But make the deal. Beal Blackley fame and a climb and karate he was the first to coin. The Phrase Predatory Journal the Journal. Publishers hated being malysz because it it stigmatizes them in meant that their income was decreased. Most of the predatory publishers are predatory not only in their publishing but in just the way they operate in general and they would use the heckler's actors veto. They would call the library director and complain about me and they would try to annoy people at my university as much as possible in order to manipulate those people at the university to make me stop the list so that their complaints would stop. I also received several threats of legal action including think it was is in twenty twelve international threatened to sue me for one billion dollars one billion dollars. It was just a threat. What I learned from it is that you can basically basically pay an attorney? Five hundred dollars all right a threatening letter so they they did that but they never followed through with. It was never introduced in any court consequences consequences. Jeffrey of running that black leaked were immense. And I'll come back to that. One estimate suggests that there are at least eight thousand predatory journals it is just one publisher of many but Jeffrey Bill provocatively cold. The the evil empire of Predatory Publishing I stand Dan by that statement and what they do is they really hurt a lot of people. You know the scholarly publishing system works on the honor system and people operate in good faith but oh mix international has has totally broken all that down. They use a lot of spamming to solicit article manuscripts from researchers they have journal titles that match the titles of respected journals. Usually one word off enough to confuse people that it might be the respected journal in the `field they will at People's names to their editorial boards without the person's permission people from top universities top researchers in the field and they'll use their identity to promote the journal and when the person finds out about it and ask them to remove their name. They don't remove it they just leave it there because they're operating operating from foreign country. There's really nothing you can do about it. And they especially prey on young researchers in emerging researchers researchers who don't speak English as their first language. It's not just dont. As from developing countries that a toggle though that even acknowledged problem clinical epidemiologist. David moas taste the Croats at reaching into some of America's most delayed institutions including Harvard in the analysis that we did where we looked at a close to two thousand thousand articles published in Predator journals. We found that actually the most frequent corresponding authors were from what we would call first world countries countries with lots of money and lots of resources that is troubling very troubling because it suggests that at these institutions authors may not Be Aware of predatory journals and are we need to obviously ramp up some educational activities. People think that they're sending the manuscript to a legitimate respected journal. When it's really just a phony dough mix international journal and then they quickly accept the paper without any peer review and then send them an invoice and that point the authors realized that something is wrong because There was really no peer reviewed done yet papers accepted and they have this two thousand dollars invoice that comes through email and the olmecs demanding payment. Most of them asked to withdraw the paper when they realized that they've been duped. But then omits says says you can't withdraw your paper unless you pay US withdrawal fee. An often than olmecs will publish the article quickly and one of their journals and then and they can't submit it anywhere else. Because that would be duplicate submission it would be publishing the same article twice. which is something not supposed to do that? Nothing about Predatory Street Journal devoted to pose to happening time as John Bohannon Govett when he hit them. Attest yes yeah so I just wanted some data. It's frustrating to have such an enticing story of you know bad actors that potentially raking in millions of ill-gotten dollars dollars and not get some data to find out if it's true. We stay in molecular biology from offered. Clave he plotted experiment which was pretty straightforward. And the idea in a nutshell is if I submit a really and I mean truly bad scientific paper to your journal final and you accept it with no sign of any peer review and you asked me for money then you're you're a fake journal Publisher Sharma sure. Yeah John Wanted to take to how easy it was to get published in a predatory journal it can usually take many months used even to get a pipe into a reputable contact general and even then it's not a given that partly because of what's called Peer Review essential to the conduct protest. You Do Fairmont you. You brought it up reporting your results. Submit it to a journal and then it pulled destroyed by a bunch of other daunting

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"expression predatory journal" Discussed on Science Friction

Science Friction

11:27 min | 2 years ago

"expression predatory journal" Discussed on Science Friction

"This is an ABC podcast. This is science fiction. Hey, I'm the Tesha Mitchell. Welcome. This week the pursuit of a predator as a reporter, you get all kinds of of little suggestions tips complaints. And you know, you can't deal with them. All this one. Intrigued me I had started to hear about similar complaints, and sort of once you hear enough of them the signal adds up. And you think oh, well, maybe there's a story here. What was I seeing what what the clues that that made you smell? A rash was a researcher myself. I was a faculty librarian at my university. And I did a research. Probably starting. Five six years ago. I was always looking for publishing opportunities. I started getting letters, and I started to receive these emails sort of saying extremely nice things to me that basically said call for paper journal editors wanting me to submit my manuscript to their journal and they had lots of grammatical errors. In addition to that one in the emails, and generally, speaking editors don't say nice things about you. And they don't typically they don't write to you and ask you to submit a manuscript will you ever attempted to submit no. I mean, I'm a clinical epidemiologist and some of these journals were lifted from soil science, why would somebody from Swail signs Bianchi me and saying nice things about me. They wouldn't know me from anywhere. He's smell. I did maybe several. But that rat will several thousand rats they now well and truly on the loose predatory publishes and the predatory journals have become a major industry global enrich and in destructive potential. In fact, you're going to hear from someone who believes these industry represents the biggest threat to science since the inquisition. The US federal court has just ordered one of the biggest of these companies to pay up over fifty million US dollars owned makes international headquartered in Hajer bed India, but also operating in the US climbs to publish more than seven hundred scientific and medical journals. It was found to employ deceptive business practices to entice on tests to other published in the journals or participating conferences, so does the ruling site by predatory publishes. Well, let's see if any of that money, actually. Moves anywhere is not clear with a group will cough up that fifty million dollars, which is an estimate of how much the company made from customers over a six-year period all whether will appeal we sent a list of questions to its representatives. But yet to receive a reply, but it is nice clear. Message to all the sake journal publishers of the world that they're being watched and their consequences. Joan by Hanan a science journalist and now director of science at an artificial intelligence startup in San Fran cold primer that basically slipping under the radar and using American Canadian European banks to move money millions of dollars of money from illicit gains. So this court ruling basically makes that extremely inconvenient to do. Now Joan was asked to present evidence. In the case brought against the group by the US Federal Trade Commission because hate head and unusual in Canada with the publisher. So. So was one of hundreds of publishers that I tested in sting operation, I root some computer code to generate thousands of very bad scientific papers. In what have been next kind of legendary in sawn circles back in twenty twelve John was reporting for the general size, and the expression predatory journals wasn't in common news. There was a guy named Jeffrey. Beal who was probably the only person around making a big public stink about this and trying to actually shine a light on it. It was a very very bold effort. He had something called feels list, or at least it became known as Beal's last Miami's Jeffrey Beal, and I'm a retired academic librarian from university of Colorado. Denver buffet, said Beal Beal's, blacklist fame and climb and notoriety. He was the first to coin the fries predatory journals of a journal publishers hated being on the list because it stigmatized them and meant that their income was decreased. Most of the predatory publishers are predatory not only in their publishing. But in just the way they operate in general, and they would use the. Heckler's veto. They would call the library director and complain about me, and they would try to annoy people at my university as much as possible in order to manipulate those people at the university to make me stop the list. So that their complaints would stop. I also received several threats of legal action, including think it was in twenty twelve international threaten to sue me for one billion dollars one billion dollars. It was just a threat what I learned from it is that you can basically pay an attorney five hundred dollars in. All right, a threatening letters. So they they did that. But they never followed through with it. It was never introduced in any court consequences for Jeffrey of running that black least would immense and I'll come back to that. One estimate suggests that there at least eight thousand predatory generals. I makes is just one publisher of many that Jeffrey Bill provocatively Kohl's it the evil empire of predatory publishing iced. I stand by that statement, and what they do is. They have really hurt a lot of people, you know, the scholarly publishing system works on the honor system and people operate in good faith, but omitted or national has has totally broken all that down. They use a lot of spamming to solicit article manuscripts from researchers. They have journal titles that match the titles of respected journals. So usually one word off enough to confuse people that might be the respected journal in the field. They will add people's names to their editorial boards without the person's permission people from top universities top researchers in the field in the to use their identity to promote the journal. And when the person finds out about it and ask them to remove their name. They don't remove it. They just leave it there because they're operating from foreign country. There's really nothing you can do about it. And they specially prey on young researchers in emerging researchers researchers who. Who don't speak English as their first language. It's not just scientists from developing countries that a targeted although that Eason acknowledged problem clinical epidemiology, David mo- assays the crosses reaches into some of America's most delayed institutions, including Harvard in analysis that we did where we looked at a close to two thousand articles published in predator journals, we found that actually the most frequent corresponding authors were from what we would call first world countries countries with lots of money and lots of resources that is troubling very very troubling. Because it suggests that at these institutions authors may not be aware of predatory journals, and we need to oversee ramp up some educational activities people think that they're sending manuscripts to a legitimate respected journal when it's religious the phony oryx international journal, and then they quickly accept the paper without any pure of you and. Then send them an invoice. And that point the authors realized that something is wrong because the there was really no period done yet, the papers accepted, and they have this two thousand dollar invoice that comes through Email in the mix demanding payment. Most of them asked to withdraw the paper when they realize that they've been duped. But then omits says you can't withdraw your paper unless you pay us withdrawal and often than omits will publish the article quickly in one of their journals. And then they can't submit it anywhere else because then that would be duplicate submission. It would be publishing the same article twice which is something not supposed to do. Nothing about predatory journals. What he's supposed to happen in science. As John Bohannon discovered when he said, the taste. Yes. So I just wanted to data. It's frustrating to have such an enticing story of you know, bad actors that potentially Ricky and millions of ill-gotten dollars and not get some hard data to find out if it's true. So we pay AM molecular biology from Oxford Oppy slave, he plotted an experiment, which was pretty straightforward. And the idea nutshell is if I submit a really, and I mean, truly bad scientific paper to your journal, and you accept it with no sign of any peer review, and you asked me for money, then you're uric journal publisher. Yeah. Joan wanted to taste how easy it was to get published in a predatory journal. It can usually take many months used even to get a pipe into a reputable scientific journal, and even then it's not a given. That's partly because of what's called peer review essential to the scientific process. So you do an experiment. Hugh, wrought it up reporting results submitted to a journal, and then it gets pulled traits by a bunch of other scientists, and so it should that's peer review, it's designed to Cape science rigorous experiments well-designed the results real usable and reproducible many predatory journals site, I conduct p review about him fact, most of them don't appear of you. They go through the motions of peer review, they might have like a stock pure view that they used for every paper that's submitted. And basically the papers are accepted and just published almost immediately as soon as the invoices. Paid. And so pure review is it's it's a fundamental component of how honest journals carry out their business of looking at manuscripts and seeing whether they're fatally flawed or whether they can be improved whether they're acceptable for publication. Dive moa is director of the Santa fa- gentle Ola g at the auto a hospital were sich institute at the university of Ottawa. Hey in colleagues just hosted a global summit on predatory journals because they want to build a consensus IVA what they are and how to shut them down. So these sorts of behaviors and many other behaviors that are not trustworthy. Jiffy Beal when something is published in a scholarly journal that doesn't represent validated science than it pollutes the whole scientific record and can't build on junk science, or if you do then the future science isn't real science either.

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