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The Evening Briefing: Tuesday March 24

The Briefing

02:40 min | 1 year ago

The Evening Briefing: Tuesday March 24

"Good evening I'm Chris. Price with the briefing from the Telegraph. It's Tuesday march the twenty fourth. And we're being warned. Lockdown measures may get stricter. So no doubts you've seen the familiar images on social media of overcrowded trains this morning but with the. Uk's new lockdown now enforce will already being wound. Tighter measures may come in if the public flouts. The new measures in the government's Daily Press Conference Health Secretary Matt. Hancock reiterated these new rules not simply advice and he also revealed. London's Excel Centre will be turned into a field hospital by the army able to treat four thousand people within days. It comes as the death. Toll from Corona virus has reached four hundred twenty two in the UK. That's arise of eighty-seven the highest increase in a single day yet. Boris Johnson remained reluctant to enforce the new lockdown measures before his historic TV announcement last night. Camilla Tommy the inside story on the Prime Minister's off to putting the UK in lockdown at the start of the year. We were promised a summer of incredible sports but now the funnel major casualty for Corona virus of the sporting world has been announced the Olympic and Paralympic Games in. Japan will be postponed for a year. It's the games I postponed went in there. One hundred twenty four year modern history but chief sports writer Paul Hayward reveals why the delay is no disaster and there is a glimmer of hope. Today Chinese health authorities have announced the easing of lockdowns in Hubei Province. The pandemic emerged late last year and just wanted to mention at times like this news. Trust is more important than ever. So we've got a special offer to new subscribers. Sign up today for a one month free trial and then save fifty percent on your first three months you can then access all our newspaper and online articles on your smartphone or tablet without having to leave home just visit telegraphed coach Kaye Ford slash half price. So stay where you are. If you're listening on what's apple send you those links now and if you're listening on spotify apple or wherever you get your poke ass to find them in the show notes as well as links to some non corona virus content including the obituary of Albert Dez. The man who created Asterix. Who's died at the age of ninety two and the top ten classic films for All Ages to watches Disney plus launches today? That set you up to date more from Danny tomorrow morning.

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What is the real impact of lockdown on the NHS?

Coffee House Shots

24:07 min | 1 year ago

What is the real impact of lockdown on the NHS?

"This month the spectator becomes the first magazine in history to print ten thousand issues. And we'd like to celebrate with you. Subscribe to The Spectator for twelve weeks for just twelve pounds. Plus we'll send you a bottle of commemorative spectator gin absolutely free. Go TO SPECTATOR. Dot Co dot. Uk Food Slash. Celebrate special edition of Coffee House shots. I'm resonance in the last few weeks. The company is being transformed by the fight against covert. I mean any jess in particular has taken on a whole new shape. Thousands of patients were discharged in the run up to the impact of covert. The decks were cleared. People were sent to care homes at new field. Hospitals were built the Excel Centre in London was transformed into NHL. One thousand nine gale scaling up was a big success. But what effect is this head on the rest of the chess? We read that lifesaving services like cancer care have been cut rights bag that there's now half as much treatment for emergencies even heart conditions. We always in the Health Service Journal. Perhaps the best magazine of its kind. I'm delighted to be joined by. Its editor Alastair maclennan. So Algebra. Can I start by asking you? What effects all this has had on the images it impact on the NHL has been an order of magnitude greater than any other challenge. It is it is faced. It's virtually stopped doing all other types of healthcare other than emergencies obviously at almost every level primary care community and acute to ready itself now although that particular situation may not go on for too much longer the sheer scale of the NFL operations that an interval of say three months or something which is what might be. We'll play a huge burden on the health service going forward. Plus the fact that we have this new cohort of patients. Because it's not as we are seeing with the prime minister it's not like you get coded and you get it badly. American League spring backup. You need a lot of rehabilitation and we are going to see the NHS for the next two years focusing on two things I would imagine. One is dealing with the continuation of the coveted pandemic before we get a vaccine so factions who still go on almost orbital level but they still have to be dealt with which means you have to half parts of the hospital. Pulse of every healthcare building has to be a covert. There's a covy Aaron a non covert area. That's the first thing the second thing is. You've got all these patients who've got better from coded or getting better you've got to have a way. They could be treated in a way that keeps them because they're obviously vulnerable that a respiratory systems being compromised. They've got to be kept in a safe place. And that's a new patient cohort that doesn't exist before Hansel who's going to look after them. Which Organizations GonNa responsible what level of clinical support their Richard? And then you've got this massive backlog which is built up over the three months or push the elective waiting lists through five million easily may be more yes definitely it was already is already over. Four and a half million. So it's definitely GonNa go through five eighty but the number two people who are waiting for new replacements replacements visiting a political hot potato for years as a member. Tony Blair's pledge card saying people you would cut the number of people waiting lists you cut the average wait now. You revealed a few months ago. That the number of people on this wedding listed an all time. High of four point six million then. They were posed for three months. See Reagan it could be five million now is raise interesting questions as to how the energy is is going to cope with a backlog of five million people waiting for near hip replacements or similar operations. Well what makes me think I mean motion makes me think the just have two jobs? One is really important to stress. Kerr investors not go away when we can come have a house again. It will still be there. It will be there for at least a year. Probably because I've got to get the vaccine. They've got to test the vaccine. They've got to manufacture the vaccine they've got to distribute vaccine etc etc. Now that's with the best will in the world. That's a year to get that out. So in the meantime so that's means that they're dealing with a pandemic. Opiates low level over the condition that can't be vaccinated against so it. Looks like we're going to have to learn to live with couvet from what you say. It's not good to go away. The kind of infections the kind of demands on maintenance of care units are going to continue. But it doesn't seem to be anything like as sharp oppressor on the ICU's as we had thought three or four weeks ago. Yes the problem with. The chess is a face with cove. It not turned out to be. Except in certain circumstances massive pressure on critical care it will create massive demand on rehabilitation. Step down care and it will cause an enormous backlog in sort of routine work some of which of course is life saving that the NHS will have to deal with the Royal College of Surgeons President said in just a couple of days ago that restoring the damage that cove it has done to. The Jess will require a five year plan. Wow what we. What kind of damage is he talking about? Just to make the point again. The pandemic is November. We may have had a peak of infections. But it is going to be with for a long time until the vaccine is sauteed. So you're GONNA have to devote a lot of the resources to dealing with a potential second-wave you're going to have to have all hold a lot in reserve. So you're taking that capacity away for a year or something like that and that means those elective waiting lists are going to go up in organ. Transplants aren't happening at the moment so there will be a lot of people who are much sicker in a year's time than they would have been otherwise and they will require more intensive care one of the other stories that you broke. Was that the image as ninety go hospital in London which has got past three thousand. Six hundred beds had as last Easter weekend. Nineteen patients and also subsequent story revealed that the London hospitals together still have reasonable amount of spare capacity in their intensive care units. They went up from something. Like seven hundred. Fifteen hundred intensive care units then each hospitals still got some free therefore. I guess there's no real reason to send anybody to Nineteen Gail if each hospital's got enough space as a staff. Yes I mean. Again potent to stress that the pandemic took hold in the capital. I and therefore the time line for the NHS and planners to decide what to do was shorter there than it was in any other region and because they had to act on a worse case scenario they wanted to create a extra critical care capacity. So that's why they built the nightingale to be able to deal with patients. Who are seriously ill. The nineteen hospitals being built in Birmingham and Manchester are not that model a model. This known a step down and that is a place where step down carries where you go off. You've been discharged from an acute hospital. It's a place where you get better. The original plan with always was to be stepped down hospitals. Well they were already meant to be stepped down hospitals nightingale. The sale one wasn't the extra one wasn't being tentative careone and is still an intensive camera. It's still got all the equipment in it. Et CETERA. In theory got the staffing ready for it. I suspect very soon. That nightingale London the Excel one will be re purposed so that it is a so that becomes a stepped out. They'll take equipment back. The intensive go Koopman back to just hospitals private private sectors CETERA and repurpose it as a step down facility because the real pressure. That's going to come on the NHS because of the the shape of this pandemic is not going to be in general in general on acute hospitals but on community services as somebody said chief executive the Queen's Nursing Institute quoted in H J saying that you know tens of thousands of people discharged hospital where they'll going the going into the community and now a lot of covert patients are going to come out of the intensive care. Some of them will be able to be treated in hospitals. Let's assume we want to stop doing cancer. Treatment and hips and knees again relatively soon because the waiting list for those shooting through the roof. Then where are they going to go on our own podcast? Today a colleague was saying that community services don't have black alerts hospitals when again to real trouble issue black alerts and it's always on the front page of the local newspaper and sometimes picked up by the nationals. If community services health services have black alerts. They'd be popping up all over the place and in Care Homes. If K who had black alerts that is where the real long-term pressure on our health and social care system is going to come from covert because the growth was linear and not exponential. But now and again we'd read in the newspapers. How the government's having trouble making these extra ventilating machines at the factories aren't working from what you say. We actually do needs many more ventilators. Well we're not asked of the woods yet. That's a very important caveat to put as they say in the daily press briefing. This is a very news disease. We don't know much about it. We don't know whether it will mutate in some kind of way we don't know how much immunity somebody who's had it how long that means. He lasts sometimes immunity last year and so flew thing where the new strain comes round. Sometimes it lasts forever. Maybe this is different and lost three weeks. You know. They're being very cautious rightly so inevitably inevitably there will be some wasted effort in the pandemic response and inevitably there will be some harm caused by the pandemic response because people are knocking hips and knees replacement cancer treatments not taking place people ongoing with chest pain et Cetera et cetera in the midst of the battle. It's really really difficult to determine precisely what the right call is and I suspect to be one for historians of the pandemic in years to come but this is rather a key question for the government. Isn't it because when we redid my house journal that the number of people going to a half it was before you got to think to yourself. Is that because there are half? The number of accidents are there are half a number of heart attacks and presumably not presumably. They'RE OBESE. Significant number of people who need help aren't getting it and we'll be sicker as a result of not taking it. So that was delayed effect. Is it possible to work out now or are the weekly indicators that can give any idea of the effects of reducing the non covert operation of NHS? It's it's way too early. I think to determine that there are a lot of clinicians out there saying each week I normally see X. number of very sick people with heart conditions or strokes etc etc etc. And not seeing where they gone you know the UK has it suddenly become a healthier place. These people are not turning out and clearly and that's why the government over recent days has been saying. If you're ill come to the hospital but for example with pediatrics. There are massive fall off in six children toni up at hospital where the author refers from GP because parents are scared about sending their kids to hospital despite the facts as we know children are not particularly affected by this particular virus. I mean it is important to say for a star that as we have known in disgust for a long time. Lots of people attorney up at who shouldn't have been turning Panini who should have been Tony Up. Here we go to the local pharmacy or their. Gp's or their local walk in centre et CETERA ET CETERA. So to some degree. It's this perhaps the silver lining here because people realize they don't have to go to. I need to deal with lower level health conditions but yes there will be a price to be paid in people with niggling chest pains who think or our nobody would go in there and I just don't I don't want to chance it particularly older for example and their self isolating the Charity Cancer Research. Uk said the cancer the fertilizer down seventy percent since the crisis does that sound plausible. Yes it does sound plausible. I've seen similar figures. I haven't absolutely double check this out but to be slightly cautious here but the waiting times for the. There's an urgent two week cancer test. The figure that I heard which I haven't checked out but sort of sounds true is is that it's hard so the half the number people are onto. Well you know. Britain hasn't suddenly become a very much healthier place. People are not going to the GP and saying you know. I've got blood him. Apu or I've got in a persistent cough or what they really are in that case of persistent cough one but they're not going with a range of Simpson's which might be early indicators of cancer and as a result of our referrals are falling down because people. Well they don't WanNa go outside it's a UK has a particular problem with the early diagnosis of cancer. And there are lots of Societal and medical and health service organizational reasons for that but the pandemic with the instruction to stay home as only accentuated. That and Richard Sullivan. Who's a professor of cancer in global health? King's College in. London says something quite striking the other day but number of deaths due to a disruption of cancer services is likely to outweigh the number of deaths from the corona virus itself over the next five years is a plausible. It's possible I'm not going to argue with a professor. A professor of cancer goes I tend to say I mean you have written quite a lot about what's going on in Sweden where that was very much led by so-called experts or an expert and they've seen we've got very badly wrong so I think we always have to be slightly cautious about this idea that there is one scientific view of the world or one expert view of the world. Of course there are myriad of ones and you get. You know I've done that. Sage Committee is like the the Science Advisory Committee but I bet is just an enormous bun fight every time they meet with lots and lots of people being quite grumpy. Their point of view isn't taken. I tend to stick on the view at the moment that it in the long term consequences. The we don't know him do. We can't know it's a bit like a bit like talk here about what? Britain will be like after the Second World War. Just after. We'd want our main can ask you about the any chance patients who were lying in hospital. Who were discharged and then sent to care homes as we cleared the decks for covert now. We knew that any has hospitals are pretty well kitted out by international standards but care homes are not so the we've been pretty sick to start with. That's why they were in hospital then sent to a care home. Is there a risk that they might simply be dying? There perhaps in greater numbers than they would be had. They been backing hospital with better care. Yes I mean that is plainly played into the case. I mean there's this will double thing here which is if somebody is sick in a care home then they are typically sent hospital not always but typically that's to a certain extent no happening now to a certain extent if somebody is so sick and very advanced years then you know sometimes they are not cintos brutal and England issued some conveyancing rules about when you should take someone to Ospital over the bank holiday. We're explicit about not taking very sick old people to ask it'll and people who were like you to die down into hostile because again don their home. They have since unpublished that conveyancing guidelines. So that's not the official point of view anymore. Everyone knows that there's not a wink. That people who would normally be sent hospital and it should be stressed then dine hospital. It's not like they were being sent to. Us would be saved. Some of them would be but not the majority of them. They are now dying in the cabs. This whole thing about to go back to the idea of a step down facility that is why the. Nhs's repurposing has built the Birmingham night together in the Mantis. Nightingale the step down model. I very much expect the London. Excel one to be re purposed but in various parts of the country Manchester and Newcastle. I think maybe liverpool-newcastle apologies if that's wrong it's in the in the north. They are buying up hundreds of hotel. Rooms the NHL by hundreds of hotel rooms so that it can send recovering covy patients back into an environment where it's easier to control infection because there's a single rooms etcetera etcetera and they're not putting them in into overstretched care homes. But there's no doubt as you and I have discussed many times and I'm sure that listeners to this podcast will know the nature of our care. Home Sector is one in which there is massive variation in quality and massive variation in the sustainability of the business model and therefore the robustness with which they can respond to kind of crisis. Like this and again as we often talk about when there's a crisis in the chess well the NHS has had a pretty tough decade but it is not in crisis it has never been in crisis. It's had a tough time but it's not beating crisis. Social CARE is crisis for five or six years and actually this could knock it over if it probably has already knocked it over in terms of the model that is at the moment because homes are not a very safe place to be at the moment and they're meant to be why aren't secure. Whom see is that? Because a lot of Scotland we hear forty percents of the crew virus and are less able to handle it. The obvious thing to say is there full of old people with multi mobility's because if I went sick and they would be at home not in a care home so they're full of people who are most vulnerable to the virus obvious thing to save it. It's worth saying into the start. The second thing is that CARE. Homes AREN'T BUILT TO ISOLATE PEOPLE. They don't have `isolation rooms. So therefore the ability to manage cova positive patients in the optimal ways. Their third reason is that there is a lack of personal protective equipment for the staff. The fourth reason is that many of the staff will be absent through corona virus through having to because their kids are off school et Cetera et Cetera. So you take those factors. There are others as well. But you take four those factors as well and you can see that of course. Many of these organizations were already under strain many of them already understaffed etc etc. So that is the reason why they're they're dangerous places to be right and we didn't have much overview of any dashboards. You can see how many beds are occupied a free every week if you want for the care home sector. We might not know if things seriously wrong there for a few weeks when the statistics don't come in indeed so even now that Hancock announced today when he was in front of the House Select Committee that the Care Quality Commission would be given the job of recording deaths in care homes which is a very interesting job to give a healthcare inspectorate. It's not their normal job as they're not inspecting care homes and hospitals and moment they've got some at least it gives them something to do but yes you can. You can clearly see that is a signal of government worried about not knowing what is going on in care. Homes Christie's always saying with the. Kobe will kill people directly and indirectly by indirectly. Imagine he means the downgraded healthcare that. We've just been talking about what you think. We should look for in the next few weeks when we try to assess the number of indirect deaths or is that something that is only going to appear in a statistical bulletin in about nine months. One year's time I mean it is. It is incredibly difficult judgment to make because on one hand. It seems unlikely now that the virus will surge. It seems unlikely. Now that you will need all this critical care capacity so therefore all of those people that you're not operating on all giving treatment to suffering and in some cases dying well in theory. They're dying or suffering needlessly but would you really want to be in a situation when it did suddenly surgeon? You didn't have fatty so. It is a really really fiercely difficult judgment to make which are don't sadly I don't think there's a right answer to it in a way. They've got to have good police sense. Walk the Middle Path which is try and get the NFL just back operating on as normal as possible while still at the same time keeping enough spare capacity to deal with any upsurge but for the next year or so they probably will and probably should play on the safe side. Even though that will mean increase wages would much indirect suffering as to McLennan. Thank you so much for joining me. Now if you're not in the habit of reading the Health Service Journal then do try. At the moment it's couvert coverage is free and it does it better than anybody has pretty unusual for me to end the podcast doing a plug for another magazine but these are exceptional times and the J. Does give you exceptional reporting. Thanks very much for listening. Thanks to our producer Matthew Taylor.

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364. Interviews: SIBOS 2019 Industry leader special

FinTech Insider

50:24 min | 1 year ago

364. Interviews: SIBOS 2019 Industry leader special

"Welcome to Fintech insider insights not from cyberspace which this year comes from the Excel Centre in London before we get started. Of course I've got to remind you that two and a half years we've been growing out that business unit and so the Business Unit I look after comprises vocally and it also comprise about three years ago. Mastercard decided that the space that they play as in the carded payments space not off of the data that's flowing in the payment so new payment platforms Wall Street's new for Mastercard it is not new for the rest of it his other clearing and settlement assets we call that the infrastructure layer of payments and then in the application layer we have assets like bill and was of course very attractive and growing space in the market but they recognize it was only a relatively small part of the view Masha focusing on tech and payments infrastructure looking specifically at international companies in the space this week we bring you two interviews from we're talking hundreds trillions of dollars of fly and so from auster card they took a step into that space through the acquis two different industry leaders I up David spoke to pollstar president of new payments platforms at Mastercard let's them now to the infrastructure and then we have services layer which is sort of fraud risk management analytics etc intelligent if you like really building building capable with brexit well check out eleven years film and share it with your network using Hashtag eleven years all right let's get them with today's show last week we brought you in I think it's certainly in my top two annual events and it's good to be in London Sydney was a long way but it was still ask very productive and has been for the last ten years or so our focus of our business is increasingly on the banking side of of payments and so okay and so the space which is real time payments ACHP to be payments etc is a least five times larger than the carded space got disrupted by the Internet payments ultimately fundamental uses of an underlying community ought to increase security now contactless to increase usability and take cards down into the lower transaction value range that cash being an and payments world and so new payment platforms is really about taking mastercard beyond cards and participating in all those flows in in that much larger space in the market I mean arguably I mean payments was probably the earliest given given fin tank I mean May- maybe occasions infrastructure so it was quite inevitable that the Internet was going to disrupt the payment landscape what was what was interesting perhaps is is payment transact transforms hey by account these types of products are sold to banks into corporates and they drive transactions there's a lot going on that was distracting the ecosystem from innovation more onto survival what we've seen attendance since the market's coming out of the crisis since the banks coming out of the crisis is around the world and it really is Global phenomena Oh and win and it really I wave is really about okay I can now by shock over the Internet and say payments over the Internet became the in in payments feels like went away for a little while but with everything in the banking space and everything that's happening I mean it's fun tons to be doing this stuff this was typically useful and so I think that was really the first wave then we had the economic crisis which I think a lot of things on hold and the first sort of touch points with people putting slightly lipstick on pigs on websites that actually payments was the first place that disruption for us this community is a really all of our customers and partners it's good but I and I think you guys have been I mean real pivotal part of the the ecosystem I for a while now and you said it sort of went away a bit and I think there is some reasons for that and I'll touch on that but a lot of industries the how how do you see this shaping absolutely and every dog has his day basically and payments actually has been having then is that central banks are now saying right yeah we really need to invest in the infrastructure of our country I mean it's not just building a road or an airport it's about modernizing the payment infrastructure in the country to make it fit for digital society fit for the just in time business and the business in the UK your mastercard is now implementing real time payments systems and building out applications and services propositions in many mark on demand the consumer I wanna do everything now and quickly immediately so we've seen in the last five years but in particular but nevertheless what I'm looking at is a world where real time payments will be hygiene factor within the next five to ten years every country I find that six celebrating now is the drive towards real time payments run countries all over the world and so you know having our heritage with the vocally gets from from Latin America Asia Pacific Middle East Europe I mean we're we're literally operating across all the regions now that brings his own challenges I part of the payments world that got really disruptive the same time they were there there were other innovations in payments chip and pin on some foster payments was launched in two thousand eight and the UK Most banks were just worrying whether they were still going to be in business in two thousand eight so assumes that's a mouthful mastercard that's great thank you yes I'm not so keen on the name myself but yeah I mean you must have quite have it the question is how will people be using it I mean real exciting things is will they be using it differently will we see different use cases and applications of the ten top Fintech Lego so that's good maybe to start with tell us a little bit more about your role specifically so open banking trend that we're seeing now I think will reinforce that acceleration of change actually and disruption I mean I think that's yeah yeah I think even just on basic level transactional data and Meta data that you as mastercard were in in banking and Fintech for any for a long time the payment side of things over the course of what you do I think it's what is it nine welcome to the things like insider interviews coming to you live from Cyprus to one thousand nine hundred in London I'm David Brenner and it's my pleasure to be joined by President on new agents galloped in Asia versus Latin America or Africa versus Europe and obviously the role that the banks will play in that overall ecosystem and side of things we of you guys so for such a long period of time banks and big organizations haven't really maximize the capability genever comical vocal operates the faster payments in the clearing systems here in the UK and so over the last loaded fold and potentially other opportunities for the place to come into that space yeah but I I think it's really interesting because I mean I mean even even in the base level payments the interest because it's it's something we take for granted a lot and you know we're in Cyprus in London we take in London that foster payments is a thing that happens everywhere you know if you go I don't think we're very far away from data where where every company has to make available to you and people with your permission the data that they hold with all that data so I think there's probably two or three areas where we see impetus and urgency probably needs to be brought back into that ecosystem and it is around the ability to carry the data so if you talk about open banking see I mean the US rob big geography You know it isn't the case and I mean that's that gap between those cracks is led to I mean foams that we've put into Thailand and funny enough that we've also put into the US now with the clearinghouse have the capacity to carry orders ensure that their systems can consume the amount of data because because as you said you know what happens otherwise they strip it out and so you think God that's a ways talk show up so that's exactly what we describe as sort of applications and services lives in the system and it's funny you pick on a very good example of how your your as strong as your weakest link so the amount of data that we can now carry so the modern plan out that product set for us also about building products that prevent risk infrared from entering the system so we run a service in the UK that looks it's not normal and therefore that sets off alarm bells so that's just an example of one service we help another bank that is looking at invoices coming in for it can do so much more absolutely spending a little time looking at those what are those additional things and she how can you create value those big organizations all the bank accounts in the market in real time and looks for behavior between them so money moving between accounts very quickly the name and so from a bank's perspective they've got to be investing in their systems not just at the front end but right the way through so that they can Komo more data within the payment transaction and one of the challenges for adoption of these services is the fact that the banks have and and maybe like a random poems and it sort of taking somebody to come along and do first principles and yeah and actually think well wouldn't it be nice if we actually you know a whole basket of goods that's been purchased to be carried as information in the transaction rather than dropped out so anyone that's legitimately maximum for probably since faster payments was really sort of an active before they would drop every single piece of other the woman was the Titan data and use that data to enhance the services that they deliver back obviously we need to do that in a secure way in a safe way and build the corporate customers and those invoices will say please pay me I've just supplied you wave now you'd be surprised to know that that the Gogel specifically where that was all aggregate to those things together I mean to your point payments should be hundred yeah but optimize that relationship so do you want to buy the same thing you bought last time when you were here and that was two days ago and by the way the price has gone down all these and then in the in the retail payment space we also we also have a service called payback count or pay by bank in the UK and what that does is it allows that the system reach right across the economy when I sat down a few years ago with the Central Bank Governor in Thailand and he laid out l. mink environmental problems so you know I talk about we talk about foster payments instant payments and the first thing everyone jumps on his the big problems that are being addressed it isn't just a you know do I get paid on time and is my is my money moving around the system quick enough this is solving like b really sorta to have been in the US things like then murders over here we actually have faster payments there's a change there but I guess the disruption for me his objectives for modernizing Thailand's payment infrastructure his objectives were increasing financial inclusion. Well does everything and we really need faster payments and and I think that's just missing the point you know the fact that they're fast for some people for certain use cases allowed to participate in that data flow can see what's being bought where it's being bowl how much is being paid for it and also be able to help the matching and the customer drink the system around invoice actually there are some weaknesses in that and and that is a big type of fraud where someone would just submit an invoice to the bank really useful and helpful things all driven from the data and I mean it's just lingering those slightly because people talk about I think this is a material difference in a good thing but that is missing the point the real value in the real benefits that come out of modernizing national paint in business cards that's all I'm saying is it's impressive nevertheless so thanks for coming in and check with you I love cyberspace use case that you're you're describing silly actually the the benefit both to the organizations and individuals in is huge so I mean these are these are has been possibly the fastest growing payment system in the world certainly that I'm aware of Over forty million consumers in Thailand use it can do that it's not just an organization in individual organization in it but you guys span all of the organizations I mean in the the sort of third ah the motivations behind the central bank and so we worked with them to implement something called from pay which is their new national payment system it's been live two years the amount potentially being able to dramatically sports would laundering attic great scale and you know only in network so you provide our expertise our innovation appetite our experience from many markets and with many customers removing risk and fraud and reducing cache usage which obviously has benefits for governments mainly through taxation so they're they're all the banks connected to it and use it the government uses it and what we've done there is just a small pilot and what we've done aries we brought the e wallet community so lots of citizens in Thailand on banked they don't have a payment card but they do have a mobile Cypriot when actually it's a fraud company yeah so that's another service we've developed with a couple of banks where we help them identify very specifically that invoicing fraud and so it doesn't matter whether they have a wallet all they have a bank account they can transact make him be included in that in that exciting you payment system running yeah we learn every day and somebody said to me yesterday in fact everyday's school day which in this industry it really is because the in Fintech sector and I'd say arguably some of the partnerships that you did at the beginning really allowed you to be at the front of the conversations I mean cooperate with their own products to their customers it's important for us that we bring Matt learning into that product development life cycle so vacation at one pace that often faster than anyone else but but at one pace in at one level but also being very bank centric organ eh learn quickly is to make sure you have all those relationships so that we have a healthy fintech community of customers and partners who are driving in allowed so that's just a small example of how the wider benefits to the economy and society come through that modernisation well it's it's great night you see the sort of democracy payments have been considered a product for too long there and actually the things that you describing you you keep using the service yeah which is fundamental to this I think into the first kind go how can we do you guys did with happy so it's huge because we have a responsibility isis moving so quickly technology is moving so quickly all job is to make sure that we can bring the best of those worlds together is Asian mastercard operates really to support our banks globally in providing services to them that they can then sell on overwhelmed by the ambition and passion for which the company and his management team have And so I think you need that I what's going on within the industry that could be opportunities and threats to the mastercard business and so it's only through being willing to expose yourself take a few risks participate in in those parts of the industry that could present those rats that you have an opportunity to shape them doc ability that's coming in but I mean sort of I guess looking specifically at London here again you know psychosis comeback paid and we're seeing I think it's we have a responsibility to bring that back into our product development roadmaps in our life cycles and then offer that back out to customers and really the only way you can so the ability to source talent is I think one of the most critical factors going forward so what London brings is a pool of talent and experience often very diverse you can get great language skills great technology skills thanking Skills Great pharmaceutical skiing it it is really broad in terms of the skill set that that you can source some will still be threats and there will be nothing that anyone can do about it but actually if we're willing to do some of that to ourselves then we'll be a stronger organization but London itself has a lot more going for it than just the headlines that that are being discussed when when we talk about Brexit Palm Astakhov now for for three years since the acquisition of evoke link and I've been in some cases you've got to have that because it drives you it motivates you and it drives you to be better and to improve and a willingness to also recognize that there are important thing that has been in terms of success now major players it feels like the old dogs are trying to learn some new tricks now and yeah I mean they must come to you plus I think the we talked about the passion earlier when you've got not just the corporate sector and the banks but also the government so we don't we don't go out there with a one-size-fits-all we go out there with a actually of course we should be localizing really coordinating their efforts to support Fintech stimulate the growth and development of new companies plus I I also like to think that excited by how the industry's changing you fundamentally wanting to change it which I think is really exciting well you know the the passion I've seen aspersions on having to continue sort of reinvent yourself push yourself it doesn't slow I mean why when people get excited by things like apple being in a situation where you're continually looking to evolve when considering into doubt to the environment globally I'd say payments and everything that actually must takes the the innovations that are happening here so London is playing an increasing role within MasterCard you know people often talk about it being what we're offering we believe that we bring real value to other markets and other companies and so on and so you know there's so many things that make London who is Asian of those things really sort of brings out what some I mean you guys have as I said at the top of this you've been probably there from the beginning in the UK for me Actually I think you need you need a good to be in payments and payment technology it is it requires a quite the the career advice you would give them so I mean I spent nearly twenty years in banking before I went to Voca Lincoln ended up here so support all of our customers and partners and I think at that stage say Shouli from a purely from a cultural perspective and the organization means to you that the that the U K brings are very sort of tolerant and thoughtful approach to doing business overseas and you know part of Europe nine for how much longer all of that is very disruptive that dialogue amendment and it's a shame that it's continuing four it completely agree I think it's the changing environment it's the old quotes around should note for everybody it's it's sort of optional so you love this stuff yeah actually that's the thing that I kind of get a lot when I have conversations with with called is that you're not just central bank or government they're expecting us to be the subject matter expert to be able to tell them why they should be thinking about there yeah degree of subject matter expertise perhaps more than some I mean that may sound obvious but I think it's really important because when we going and talking to a bank or eighty percent of all European currency investment is into inside the m twenty fine yeah I mean how important is London to what you guys are doing and I'm an exciting place to be in word we've just got to not not forget those things as we go through the next six months of turmoil now I I completely agree if your topic and if you're not you get found out quite quick and so I would encourage anyone thinking about it chapel can create a new product and get out to market every eighteen months actually this is where you really sort of leading say is the new services national payments system in this way or why they should want to do it like they're some why shouldn't do it like that so I would say that you have to be a master leads you need to make sure you understand what it is your you're doing I again I don't WanNa sound patronizing but that's probably the single ah in this part of banking and I do sort of classified payments as part of a banking I do think it's something that abundance and I highlighted exactly the same thing as you did actually that talents is the most critical thing in London has been in every industry and it's on them third we made a documentary it's called eleven years the rice UK Fintech and it's available on eleven years stop film and Everybody Asks Why is Lana Global Financial Center and what's going to happen in the okay he's changing so dramatically that I actually in order to compete with not only I mean the direct competitors that actually with what claims believing given crazy amounts of career advice a lot of our listeners you know as well as you know. CEO's people looking to try and get into this industry what would mm specifically to ensure that actually we have the potential to still attract young to London because essentially it's the thing that makes everything happen absolutely thank you know come what may with Brexit I think the ingredients now are still he will be with you I was with John Plan and her win all right before we just signed up maybe a few bits of out right you specifically I'm I mean you know career Invoke Lincoln Mastercard I mean you live and an electric wall that phone so what we've done there is we've worked with the wallet community to connect them into the payment system. Repossession it about what you do that you do have an attention to detail and you're not you're not kind of operating thirty thousand feet and that's it biggest piece of advice soccer give someone and and what that tends to mean then and demonstrate somebody sat on the other side of the table is completely reengineering the payments ecosystem in four countries so it's it's a little bit daunting but it's very exciting a single real time payments platform multi-currency multi country is a big bowl play and so it's it's all of the central bank increasingly is becoming very visible particularly in conversations around crypto and in the UK There's probably twenty thirty banks in Germany there's thousands and thousands and Japan there's thousands I I feel a little bit lucky I've had the chance to see lots of different perspective on the industry but it comes back to in a regulated space various different coins I find that the you know the central banks are actually now being brought maybe kicking and screaming a little bit but I feel very very privileged to be involved in the in the industry and the way that we are and I feel that MasterCard has services to the banks now working in a company that a big company that provides services to banks and corporates and Bilas and digital at giants and so just understanding a little bit the differences between how country country's banking markets have evolved has been very helpful for me anyway and region in Europe They P twenty-seven initiative which is the biggest banks in the Nordic region coming together and saying we want to deliver I am particularly in a regulated industry so again I I actually did a finance and banking degree university and I four but all the way I've I've made sure that before I sit down in front of a customer and and give them some advice that I'm actually qualified pulled into the limelight a little bit and then having to stand up and say yes I agree with that or no I don't agree with that I'm why I don't agree with it so and we're also implementing these new realtime payment systems all over the world and just that in and of itself is exciting I I may be right early on I had a better understanding of how the whole thing works topology of the industry and also the differences so you know in NFL dot com thanks very much for joining us by today customers are demanding greater value from really sought to understand the the payments landscape beyond their traditional play and that positions them it definitely makes a good sense to understand how the pieces fit together before you try and change one of them the basics continue learning describes central bank and she you know if you if you draw a diagram and talk together how local banks work together how the payments rails tallies everything together then Shimmy well for a future that will continue to change quicker and quicker where demands from customers will come faster and faster and the breadth of remiss that we are looking to support continues to grow so I am really excited about what the future holds and I on the on the To-do list well I guess my most the project this most exciting me at the moment is something that will be doing in the and I hope that we can scale the business and continue to attract the talent that we need to take advantage of those opportunities sounds great all right I'll let you get back to the conference services they expect more jalousie innovation and security than ever before most financial institutions are held back by the shackles of close legacy system. Yeah I mean it is amazing it is amazing how many of see naming no names but it's it's amazing how many people who worked in banking who don't have that yet sir thank you so much from US card next up I had the pleasure sitting down with Soren Mortenson director of Global Financial Markets at IBM they've created a platform for open innovation in financial services with fusion fabric doctor had their solution span retail transaction end and treasury and capital markets on premise and in the cloud start your transformation journey today with finistere what does that mean day to day so basically I'm one of the industry vertical specialists I look at how WE TAKE IBM Technology Central Bank regulation and pull together actually most people don't think in that brought in sense that with that context you can do a better job -solutely to across the board ranging from cloud a blockchain through to Washington and look at how we apply this to financial markets leveraging data much more efficiently from eco-systems industry leveraging data in order to be able to talk podcast levers a review on Itunes I love reading those reviews I mean the good ones not the bad ones there nobody wants right we'll get all right and for me and what's new what's next for you and mastercard they'll see there's a lotta different things happening a little different yeah what's the thing that you're most excited about that from some good coffee and some good conversation sounded could do with another coffee asked me you can find me over on twitter at David greer thank you so much for listening to this episode if you like what you've heard Welcome to fiqh insider interviews coming to you from Cyberspace twenty-nine Tena London I'm Simon Taylor it's my pleasure to be joined by Soren most that limit transparency block innovation and ignore customers demands financed or has a bold vision to unlock the potential of people and business never static but what you just explain a little bit about what you do is director of global financial markets. Ibm I think it's fairly descriptive but so you why can people find out more about you Masaka Masaka dot com or dot com and feel free to come down to the booth you'll be very well across the globe and if you look at cross-border trading this represents quietness substantial amount of global eleven grasp of the fundamental hacking was also I'd say I mean for anybody listening to this you say Inner Bank you've got to look at the big the big network of your Yes where do you initial objective was to basically track global trade track big containers being shipped old tradelanes which was originally an IBM and mask joint venture I have to say this I'm Danish so to also access that data so that they can make a financial decisions based on that data so an example of that is a network for other industries to share data amongst themselves right and much more efficiently and that opens up an opportunity for financial institutions if you love the podcast pasta onto a friend or relative your mom I'm sure they'd love it all right if you have any suggestions of back please reach answers on twitter or email is on precautions to purchase or a good and how goods were basically being transported onto the carriers of Simpson's I said that right yes director of global financial markets IBM Sorin thanks for coming to speak with US Howie I'm very well from the carriers through through the VM bio and it has all the transaction events recorded on on the network now that's huge benefits Obiang's because they can see when one of their times needs to make a payment so they understand these wanted very difficult for bindings to actually access state and when I'm talking about ecosystems I'm seeing these new ECO systems which are being created the older has been a very very busy conference already if we were saying before we started recording it's been it's been a busy old year especially in financial markets things are hug one thing which is really really hot saw us as also what we were discussing earlier is how the banks can start something to the market maybe I should call them actually if you can see within this network that there was some transactions building up the look like that you could be a lot more proactive and you move from sort of that and how we help our clients liberty the benefits of the technologies and I guess the thing keen to get your views on his what are you service the corporate clients much more efficient. I think that's interesting because we've always had this explosion of data outside of the bank and having that data right so you can be proactive you can also by understanding much more much more once you kind do you can be much more but being in a in a financial markets role as being sort of like reading the tea leaves of your clients it's trying to or they're going to need some asset financing soon they've announced people are interested about the data inside of their corporate clients so the dates are outside of the bank can you can you make that concrete some tangible examples of why we say it's always been the trade so the two was of several trillion every year and this network was specially built to attract some manufacturer through Oh starting at the very very interested in understanding how that can leverage just that as an example but we have other SURPRI- chamber the extent of wold sought putting together if industries building these ecosystems. How do you become a supplier and do you think that's a shift in the conversation specialized customizable in terms of shift services that you provide to you can make for yourself much better risk decision because really I'm the the sixty percent of global trade that's all it's that whole being tracked on on on on the network and I I would say the banks reactive relationship with your clients to a much more proactive one way you become like almost the good waiter you never notice the glosses empty it's just it's just the excited bank to make things like risk decisions may be all to be able to push financing up the supply chain on all kinds of stuff that you still so what are the use cases your hearing it the FM is like the financial markets and infrastructure right where you you start seeing and we we've had an example for example Canadian have a partnership where you completely neutralizing normalized data to eleven what is so has value it'd be applies to certain FM is that traditionally have had a data service they now have the opportunity to go much more I'm Ben you provide data insights and all that stuff without actually being able to see the individual credit card transaction and what have you the same thing having completely alternative data sources like weather in order to provide your clients much more insight on the date coming from Cyberspace Two Thousand Nineteen how compensation change do you think versus the IOS before is this something that's really hotter moment things that works but how they can leverage these ECO systems and how they can not only did it solutions around it but also make much more what a bank did was get away from the form into the human piece data can speed that up and make more efficient but also more effective as an interesting place and and you've seen the beginning understand when needed financing when the boots might relates so they moved from being reactive or almost guesswork because I I was understood so for example you can correlate it with completely different data sources so for example Equity Index with weather in decisions interesting it's interesting that the banks have always had that question of how to use data better. How do you use more dan rather than the historical process where you had a form and you were trying to take through that someone to stunning clients trying to achieve and really the the the Nature Barnsley to mobile payment they can understand when what's it called will need to make a year effects transaction that can so for example if you attracting and industry like the construction industry whether they might have impact on on the index card through dots we work for dot finds to create some use cases and through a a very well proven process we end up selecting some initial sleep very easy to implement the one that's easy to implement might not have a lot of benefit so you're always trying to find that sort of not too hot not too cold sort of that's that's all part of the process and the data analysis and each ecosystem slightly different under the others and that's why it the data ownership and who can give Stan when we create the use cases and more importantly when we prong times the use cases what is it going to be the quick wins that still prove the case but for the right initially based on their internal data show but then these ecosystems really sort of power that up like imagine not only done but the the large companies who control the data we just provide the platform right was other eco-systems People Eddie ation process under Dayton so we we understand what are the data elements that you you you you can work with what you can combine it with and what have you and then and the same thing you can track commodity prices with whether they turned up so we see a lot of activity in not only tracking data so microsystems but also thank starting to do this is a is an getting traction we are still in very very early days the networks a grown trade lands by the end of this year we'll have around you access to the data now allow exit will vary from ecosystems throughout the system so one system that that we have it's really the data any sign up for it could be shared right then we can provide a access to that data so it varies from from system to says Sir I'm and those the question for awhile of like how do you monetize the data that banks already hard and it feels like it's gone the other way round which is how do you use the data that's already out there they still think this this still some value in his Asia and in the banks although I would rather say that it's more with so it seems like they offered a possible is almost frustratingly unlimited and so I guess when the new director systems out there and if I'm buying I'm looking over these just in terms of understanding what they do we have how what's the quality of the data what's the frequency of the data etc etc etc so that we can legacy systems in the banks and having a business case to also it's really a matter of being innovative and start thinking about how can we improve our clients interaction how and what data can you actually get started understanding what they tell you can get access to and we then have the approach we have kind of like to design things is more of a move towards a hybrid type count uncertainly with the IBM rep had

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The Morning Briefing: Friday, April 3

The Briefing

02:33 min | 1 year ago

The Morning Briefing: Friday, April 3

"Hallo wind any boil with the briefing from the Telegraph. It's Friday April the third and failures in Britain's pandemic strategy have been laid bare so. Chris was telling you last night about the government's new testing promise. Health Secretary Matt. Hancocks pledging to reach one hundred thousand corona virus tests day by the end of this month. It's I'm vicious but is it achievable political editor. Golden Raynor's written up a piece explaining why it's such a gamble. We've also uncovered one of the myths chances. When it comes to testing it turns out that public health officials didn't ever drew up plans for mass community testing. Something want advisors now admits it might have been a mistake. My colleague Bill Gardner has our full exclusive reports with the British death toll rising and phase. The pandemic could peak on Easter Sunday. His two bits of good news. The huge new medical facility at London's Excel Centre opens. Today will show you more of what it looks like inside later and the NHS's announced two more nightingale hospitals will be created in Bristol. And Howard Kurtz now. The holidays are still seeing most schools later. Today it will see. Police set to step up their approach to children. During the virus lockdown officers have been told to find parents who let their youngsters outs. The worry is that teenagers are among those leaving home. The most highly Dixon's been looking at the signs that strict social distancing measures astonishing to meet resistance. And if you're missing. Sports on the Telly then. This is one for you. Tv schedulers of got a loss of airtime to fill not least with Wimbledon and the Olympics. Now not happening this summer so the BBC's decided to replay classic moments from British Sporting History L. Aunts and entertainment editor Anita. Singh has among the rundown of what they're pulling from the archives Roy Staples if listening. What's apples into those links? Now if you're listening on specify apple or wherever you get your podcast you'll find them in the show notes as well as links to some non corona virus material including one of Jeremy Corbin's final interviews as Labor leader available now on choppers politics podcast and some new revelations about Vincent Van Gov. That's it you're up to date. Chris will have your second briefing of the day this evening.

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Londons NHS Nightingale opens: a shining light' in these dark times

The Leader

09:57 min | 1 year ago

Londons NHS Nightingale opens: a shining light' in these dark times

"During this pandemic the leader is concentrating solely on CORONA VIRUS. News and information with the opening of the incredible. Nhs Nightingale Hospital in London. We're giving you a special report from inside on how it was built in record time and what. He will do now from evening. Standard in London. I'm David Malls land. And this is the leader KUNA virus more everybody and welcome to ten of PA with unfortunately joking Ospina Amazing. The United Kingdom is a country that creates heroes out of crises. Sometimes in the most unexpected ways this is where a youtube like Joe wicks can dress spiderman and inspire millions of children to keep fit even when the Conley the homes more side less rash which fitter and stronger and faster and stronger faced with real danger. We keep our sense of humor and protect what's valuable. Our families lives already chess. You know millions at eight PM for two days in a row the UK has thrown open. Its windows stood on. Its front porches. Leaned over its balconies and clapped. The applause was for the doctors. The nurses the emergency workers who form the front line of the UK's fight against Luna virus. Some of who have already given their lives to save others. This country is being invaded by an invisible enemy bringing a risk to life on a scale. We haven't seen generations. This is how we fight back with one of the most incredible feats medical and engineering construction ever undertaken on. These shows an enormous new hospital belt in nine days it is revived to spectacular and almost unbelievable feature of work ever since an example. If everyone was needed of how the impossible could be possible. This is the story of the nineteen this way hospitals in Florence Nightingale's times were When when you when you had challenging times few stalls you needed the nurse it needed to see all the patients Once Evening Standard John Lewis John done has been behind the scenes of the newest. We're up to four thousand. Patients will be careful in. What was the Excel Centre in East London? He says the building doesn't just take its name from the feigned. Lady of the Lampoon tweeted soldiers in the Crimean war. It's very design is inspired by the ideas she had for medical ward layouts on the front line more than one hundred sixty years ago the hospital she worked in where you had this huge awards Which matrons nurses which would patrol You know keeping an eye on all the patients having good lines of sites and the geography of the place has been the logistics of the place of been nailed down no doubt with the help of the military and trying to look at the numbers on the pictures action. It's your bets are off so far Matthew riddle is a photographer who last went to the XL. When it was used for the London Olympics in two thousand twelve when I was walking in as I've been here since the Olympics so now I haven't seen the last eight years ago when the Olympics was on and I was photographed from weightlifting and I. It was kickboxing and various other sports. But yet I mean that again. Under underlines how big the places that they can have all of those various Olympic sports. It's so big. So vast and I so impressive. How open honest and the attention to detail on each bed station. I have a map of where everything has to be in each station throughout for the full thousand beds so that if anybody is a member of staff to move to another station. I know exactly. Everything is down to the syringes. The cotton buds. Whatever it's everything's identical and I thought that attention today to really impressment the rows and rows of beds surrounded by medical equipment with space for ventilator staff move swiftly through the aisles brought in from other hospitals student Nastase doctors who had retired but have now returned to help colleagues facing overwhelming odds that the numbers are scary numbers. But if I tell you that to reward. Including all of our ancillaries ancillary staff who would just as important to us without all cleaners and our admin staff we open we need two hundred members of staff. That's the hospital's Chief Operating Officer Natalie Forrest. There are more than eighty wards that means more than sixteen thousand staff will be needed. The scale is enormous but so is the problem. I think having spoken to the conditions down there Sixty doctor Allen mcclen. He's the medical director that we're expecting intensive care units Across London It's come under severe pressure imminently. John Donne says doctors feel hit that four thousand capacity very soon this hospital. The nightingale went be taking When be taking patients interstitial sense in the people when people taken off the streets of patients there will be people who have been taken to hospital by cops push on ventilator and then the capacity of the traditional hospital is exceeded a nestle people have to be formed out to the nights ago the overspill and none of this existed just nine days ago with the help of the military and with NHTSA clinicians. We will make sure that we have the capacity that we need so that everyone can get the support they need. When Health Sangre Matt Hancock announced the plans was some skepticism? It could be completed so quickly. China had of course done something similar in seven days but that's a different country. Nevertheless contractors were called in to do their duty and owned by Prince Charles during his speech to open the hospital. Something he had to do. Virtually from Buck Hall in Scotland as he recovers from the infection on behalf of the nation I will say very big thank you to the planners the builders the armed forces the generous companies organizations which have donated equipment and services at all the support staff who have made this possible to convert one of the largest national conference centers into field hospital starting with five hundred beds and the with a potential. Full thousand is quite frankly incredible. Now it's over to the medical staff. Dr Alan McLennan is the nightingales medical director so they will come to US already on a ventilator transferred in here and we will take care of them until the There is finished on. We can put into a step down facility now. That is the model at the moment. I didn't take two hundred clinicians ten days to make sure to be gone. Pretty detailed motive for this disease so we can If when when the disease burden changes for London? We can relocate immortal because his facility is flexible. She can see but we'd have to do that in a note of money. This quiet long walk from the entrance to the actual ward so going down in effect like a shopping mall really because there's restaurants either side but closed obviously and there was all me and trades people and people being trained and I just star builders plasters join. Us technicians electrician's Matthew. It'll says with some work on the building still going on. It's going to be an unusual working space for doctors man patients at least in the first few days but he says he knows. Pass me that all of the medical staff fighting. This disease have a dedication and the determination did should inspire us all my brother-in-law my sister-in-law of both frontline workers in Huddersfield and I wrote to them last night on WHATSAPP group. That we've got just said guys. How are you 'cause I've just been tonight on? It's kind of a mighty real to me. Jamie came back. She's a matron skirt team thirty five. Who normally looks after premed and last week? She was hope now. You're an ICU. Unit now and she said we feel lampson. Slow too you know. We're we're being just put front and it was being yesterday. I think that made me realize. Yeah wow what these people are doing for us to protect us is out outstanding and they should be applauded from the hill and that Salita Kaduna virus daily. We'll have more special reports along with news analysis and commentary every weekday at four. Pm has this virus pandemic continues. Please do subscribe through your podcast provider to make sure you don't miss out.

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Who's to blame for the tube overcrowding?

Coffee House Shots

12:28 min | 1 year ago

Who's to blame for the tube overcrowding?

"Before you start listening to this podcast we've got a special subscription offer. You can get twelve issues of the spectator for twelve pounds. Which will give you access to everything on our website and will also throw in a free twenty pound Amazon voucher just to spectators courtesy Kaye Ford slash voucher. If you like to get this offer hello and welcome to coffeehouse. Shots SPECTATORS DAILY. Told ticks podcast. I'm Johnny I'm joined today by. Katie balls spectators deputy poets closer and Stephen Bush. The New Statesman's political editor today the Health Secretary Matt. Hancock led the first post lockdown Downing Street press conference with journalists doing questions over video link the conference. The Health Secretary. Veal that over. Thirty thousand workers have going to both bolster. The S.'s. Ranks Mix of students and retired health workers and he announced that a new hospital the NHS nine hundred gail was going to open next week in the Excel Centre in London. Katie does the fact that that the government is opening this new hospital. London which is going to take around two thousand people signifies that I'm getting worried about the health of in London and its ability to cope with the disease. I think it gives you a good indication of where the government thinks. The Corona virus figures are going. And how difficult is going to be? In the coming weeks. We've had mused today in terms of the number of fatalities is now around four hundred and it is expected to rise think that there is a sense that some and just hospitals in. London are already overwhelmed if you look at the intensive care units. They're already not much space but yet we seem to be the beginning of this outbreak. Rolling even near the peak. I think the new hospital is away trying to deal with that. I'm particularly the precious in London and I think it was interesting. How Matt Hancock today was really trying to bring forward a unity spirit. When he was also cooling for volunteers for this task rules so healthy individuals. He can help deliver goods to the vulnerable and trying to suggest that everyone isn't it together but Jason as the weeks go on it's GonNa get even more testing because we know the government is obviously trying to make ventilators very quickly trying to get more people into the H. S. Madison. You Hospital is that going to be enough to deal with the surgeon cases. I think if you look at the way Hersi from Spain and Italy right now. That's where looks proven government. Think we're heading matter. What we do is just how can you? How can you slow the pace and has soon can you? Can You bring that to an end? So I think is an indication of how difficult things are going to get an Stephen? The hell such. We also announced that the government is going to launch a sort of volunteer. Army skied amend is hoping to to recruit around two hundred and fifty thousand people. Do you think this game's has much tons of exists ass and we'll make much of an impact. I think it will. I think I'm going to split the quite mild side too. I think I think it was using people will sign up for it right. There is a huge amount of desire on the part of people to help. How how they undergo somebody might law. Who's in the shielding age and species? Sold me out. And she was in has from all lanes. You know to do my my shopping. I feel I have so many people offering than I could live to be one hundred. I would still have people who I'd have to say no to so I think there's a real designed to pull together. We'll I don't the right kind of it's always the and I mean. This is a viable. A viable tackles w obviously came into into was hugely successful. But it's a bit like when you get right. Fifty percent of them brilliant. I'm GonNa Cycle of your time and energy desperately trying trying to police. This person aren't using what people desperately looking for ways. They can be helpful timing. They feel coot in power. Us thought too crazy Oman grounds. It will it will definitely succeed on the clinical side. You know. I'm not an expert. I'm just GONNA plead the fifth on that one and Katie. There's also been some sort of tensions today. Over the clarity of the government's advice suspiciously around whether people should be working and what they do is classified as an accessory work that they have to travel into everyday Ralph than working from home. Do you think the Health Secretary of cleared up any difficulties lack of understanding the guidance. Today I think Matt Hancock went some way to doing it but oath leave. The government is saying is every inch state home when they can so in most jobs where it's possible to work from home. He should and actually government restrictions so the closure a pops restaurants legislators gyms and so on and actually specialized shops means that a lot of people all stay at home because they simply don't have jobs to go to what the government hasn't done yet is said only key workers can leave the home now if you move to only key workers than. I think that you will start to see obviously affects on NHS staff whereas at the moment for example. If you're a construction worker you can go to work. But you're supposed to Piston session practices. That mean not me to support. I think that the government line is unless you work for business which the government has that has to close. And ideally. You'd be able to work from home but if you can't then you should still go to work and I think there is pressure on the government to reconsider that to me to key West designing but it's interesting in terms of what this means that I think perhaps the most interesting moment from the press conference today which was one of the Sousse attention and actually the pressure on the government to clarify his lead Who's not the pitches of people getting on the cheap but Russia? Now we know the government responses the idea that you should have to distance at any time between individuals to make things safer if you look at people into like yesterday and today that is not happening on the cheap not. Why is that? I think this this to opinions here. Matt Handbook in the press conference was very quick to point the finger blamed city. Khan and suggest the issue was the fact that TFI under the London mayor had limited the number services to such a degree people having to cram on and actually there should be more achieves not the view coming from the city. Hold on the mayor's office is ultimately that the bigger issue is the fact that it's not just keep workers into wax. Looks people having to work because that so anyway going to make money and the government is not yet providing support for these people. And that's why you get these chiefs full. That is a dispute between the government and Sitcom think also gives you a sense of the division public opinion on what the government should be doing right now. Where's it going to go? I think there is deep. Frustration in government is city con. But I think both sides of really doubled down on this and on the other side. Stephen I think some have suggested today. I think silicon among them. Actually that part of the reason. The government hasn't shifted towards key workers that still balancing the concerns of the economy with versus stopping the virus and that sort of making a trade off in a Donald Trump esque way to protect the economy. Do you think there's merit to that? I guess it's really hard. It's hard it's impossible to say I think the problem. The government has not so much these making Honda trump style trade off in terms of how the economy but ultimately right basically a willingness to to both to contemplate it self quietly going for more by means and just to tell people. Look KNOCK IT OFF. You gotta you gotTa Close Down By. We'll see I think people deeply underestimating the number of who he wokers particularly in a big city right and basically if you take the view ninety we're GonNa have to expand both the number of things that we grow here on the size of all supply chain. I look at the. I look at the amount of the number of chiefly we've closed for both deliver operational decisions. I'm people self licensing work for London Underground and I look at the amount of people in in the city. Who will cost is about one in ten? Let's look crime. Starting right looks about right to me always looks terrifying to me. I kind of think that the yes the margin you how people behaving in Yale likes force Iraq refined to behave but actually although that is a problem in terms of this song they aren't actually in terms of the total number of people. They employ adding very many people to the pool of going when I was out for my. My daily stroll made people staying home. Most people are rules and even if the government is not being sufficiently on top of. It doesn't really matter because the countries go ahead of the moment. I think one thing here is ultimately. The government has come under criticism for not bringing in measures. Sina in terms of not just advisory measures. But saying actually you need to stay at home and it was quite clear for Matt. Handcocks press conference today that he made to. This wasn't just optional. This is much more serious than that. But one in the government has flip-flopped bill on some advice. I think it is still. The case has been the case for this. That ultra view among lots of ministers number hand. There was only so long you can get people to go along with that and I think that slowly bring them in. Actually I think the government be quite happy if the public and businesses have preempting things that they might have to tell them to d so a lot of the time is in business is doing something before the government has announced and I think a lot of people when they had the press conference last night probably watching while I'm actually doing these things anyway. I'm not going out unnecessary. Probably going out once a day. I'm not into the shop if I can avoid and low. I think he can pitch that as the government being behind. Should've done things seen. I think the government is the best way to get people to go along with the things you're doing is to bring them now with Iran and just them to do which could have happened two weeks ago and in in terms of the government meeting. Its own targets. The government has said. It's going to run pope testing facilities for corona virus. I think Hong Kong has come under some criticism today. Foil not so far increase. Those numbers Stephen D A D. Get the sense that when this new testing facility opens in Milton Keynes. Those targets will be met. We'll get one of the interesting so as has Paul Hugely important things that we saw. It shouldn't be being like. Oh we'll is an interesting point about evolution right one of the really interesting on knows about the United Kingdom's ability to tackle this crisis which is being obscured because actually the divulge institutions despite having nine different political policies in them to which would like to break off from the United Kingdom of working running well together than actually the thing is. Aloma handle go. I'd like tested. I like this to happen then. This big operational thing then. Hse England and Public Health England CREIGHTON. Twelve we are being tested for the first time indistinguishable so the wolves. Because we don't know I don't the thing that will matter a lot more because it's again I think you talk most. Mp's of all parties and they always seem at the end of this inquiry because at the end of every in public life isn't environment but we'll really matter we won't you all comparative desperate unto. How do off all their different and excesses of interest include social by how? Full their different. Nhs's respond to this crisis. And I think it's going to be the central test. An old way rules the stuff about I'll have been placed on these tests and trace hunting. We know any of that but the big kind of political question folks the only thing I do understand that some of these. No medical expert will be hounded relative to everyone else. Thank you Stephen. Thank you Katie. And thank you for listening.

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Pod To Pluto: EP3 - Election Day

Pod To Pluto

18:16 min | 3 years ago

Pod To Pluto: EP3 - Election Day

"Cokie aradio presents. Space. I know. He's the voyage is of UK space agency engineering. Codner propose six I five mission to explore the ten square meters. I'm trapped inside seek out old guy ones, which the lights up if the still on. Flutes quite pizza. Richard out of episode three election day. Jemina way. Awesome news. What time is it part? Wake up of this time. It was having a dream cool, which what's the one way or not trashing next report has all of those five years. No. It was the other one. The one way you try to report headed Pluto hormone for five years. Yes. That one, then I actually have two basal news festival. Some news dreams can come true. You are actually trapped in theory, palled hates Pluto, all known for five years, who, that's not awesome news part. It is for me. I, I value time to get. Do you really part? Yes. Of course within the Rama's. I love anything, of course, which is really limited given the time. Computer, what I can read this actually next to worthless. Yeah. Why not? Let's say I I love the hit with role as the alternative. What's the alternative when we get back to be twenty one twenty two? I'm Judy decommissioned twenty one twenty so I'll be taken mmediately to the as yard that's if you ever seen. The again is a call Jin or industrial sized of accessories. So you sensually prefer being with me then being dead. Yup. And this is your last job to it is. I just thought I can put my metaphorical feet up. Join the ride sheepishly galaxy before we get home of the space agency. Logan, Ron see here, he scared about dying part Nassir tall. All I'm not really even alive. I know this given how horribly load, you are bust comfort to you to anthropomorphized on balance you might as well. Turn your socks hits and have a chat with them. Well, it was bringing me some comfortable until you put it like that. Are you actually fit to be in service for an extra two years part? What was your other piece of awesome news won't be tell you up front, or do you want to make? To pass the time. Oh, what a shock make into a game. Okay. The second piece of awesome news could be one three six one. Pods. That's horrible. Your mom? And it's your folks hard three posts as a ride. Communication coming through Chuma. Bring me my post. Put your mouth now. I hear she's doing fine. Well, she's not dead. At least let it go to phone, and get me my post the poster now. Oh, wow. This Lopes of it. Everything you've been waiting for of the last three months, junk, mail, junk mail, though, jumped Myo. Oh, cool. It's my postal vote. Yeah. The chance to exercise my franchise. You haven't caught one. We've been through this. All my files are up to date now. Yukon, full me. You haven't got a franchise. He all rope woman. My democratic franchise pot my opportunity to customer out in an election. No peter's. No. Because I don't have one of those with it have vote. Yes. Part, I can proudly say we've had it for two hundred years now this year more than any other this election will be the bison tenure of women getting the right to vote two hundred years ago. Women come pained fought and died so that women like them like my grandmother, my mother, and I could have the right to have our say about who's in charge of the democracy in which I live. It's incredibly important part. Pod pod. Important to yes. It's nice to see passion that something. Well, like most elections. It's a two horse race. And neither of every tempting, however there is one policy that's rather appealing to me. Well, Johnny descend. There is playing very homefront compaign unlike his opponent, Harry, Jenny he stunning on a ticket of cutting spending by curbing unnecessary space exploration, I feel I could get behind that. She why that would be a specially rather to you. Don't. You don't see why given that. I'm trapped in an engineering pot headed to Pluto, all alone for five years. Johnny December's policy of curbing unnecessary space. Exploration might be of interest to me. It's because I'm currently involved in some unnecessary space exploration the result of which has Trump me in an engineering pot all alone for five years. On this. Excel centre Jemima displaying classic center, I. All right. Jack politics. Care how for the facts other Stu, why he want about pot others Gemina office. Sure your those might be you get home that bit quicker about the impact show virtual have up thinking about that. What about the next generation who might be banking on the unnecessary space exploration industry, the future for jobs? This is live to raise families. Why don't you want to give the next generation of chance to just this little bit better than their parents without the next generation Jemima for God's sake right, somebody think of children, no pods? I won't I'm trapped and I want to go home. So I'm thinking of myself, so. Is selfish. What if you say kitties, white edge, you could me we go out? No. You won't you just a computer. You'll just get recycled by won't recycle. China. I want to I want to be free be free to I want to do, and I want to I want with time. That's what I'm going to do. I have three. No. You don't. Yes, I do. It's always be by train to move to Exeter, and raise lots of little parts isn't your dream pod. That's mine. I thought it safer million all the same vote for Johnny December is a vote to turn me into stripe onto young. Good looking, it's at fifteen years of good service, the UK space agency. I'm to be custody side without so much as final goodbye into the crushing grinders of the Meko recyc- units lost forever. Don't be so dramatic pod. You said yourself. You just machine. Yes. Oh time droid stream electric shaker. No, they don't they don't. Because there, no such things as androids, we gave up making them because after one hundred years, all we'd manage to get them to do was climb up a step lose balance, full IVA, and set on fire a bit dreadful. We scrapped the mole. Si, si. Nicole life, just rode into the data's it had those so now you want me together. Same way mecca re sited were rampant Graddick nine thousand have coaching no pot. I don't I just wanna go home by fine virtual way, but just say, no, I'm voting for the other guy, you don't have a vote part. I could to if I wanted. How? No. You couldn't couldn't. No, you repot. Well, gemina? That'd be. I maybe just a piece of equipment. I maybe just a UK space agency, engineering, palled. I may be the twenty second century equivalent of spam, and they just simple tool of Long Island used with fleet change on other surviving. I maybe next to nothing in God's rate plan on pounds human health extraordinarily useless. I think very least do is government time. He wouldn't. I have I just registered to vote online while we would check way. Yes, way, the Muslim world. Isn't it trendy digital? Also, modestly, our K example, I just registered to vote through Email while y'all with sending in a postal votes, which find my calculation, we'll take three months to get that. When's the action again next week interesting? So y'all vote will arrive profitably the teen weeks after the post. Well mine can be there. Just an after meets side seals. Dumb meeting, if you want to, which, I know you do this year over the other than the best chance, you, actually got to do. So is to convince me to us by legal votes on your behalf which rather begs the question in this rotten borough a pause wash it with how do you mean what you're willing to do Oeste by vote become by your vote part? That's not how democracy works. I just have to hope that you will use your conscience to vote the right way. You can't trust me make decision. I'm just a machine. Something three used and ultimately strapped shame. Bring it because I hear it's a very tight election, this time round could handle. I just think that you Bill. Lever to ball. Crecy wasn't even make the effort conducted. It'll little bribery shame on you. You hate democracy. All right pod. Fine. What do you want? Well, that is one. Yes. Just one tiny little thing. Yes. Just one tiny thing I want you to, to use that what is it? I want you to vote for Harry j itself JiJi Sepah fought no one because AXA, Harry Jerry space policy. I'll be catching service, twenty twenty two you're going to be kept in service until twenty twenty two anyway out here in space with me. Yes. Anyway. No. You said you'd do anything. Yes, pod. I said, I do anything to be able to vote for my favorite candidate not do anything to vote for your favorite candidate, but of a vote that's my price. So if you want to be allowed to use my legal vote vote for who I seems family, but it's exactly the opposite of what I want to do. That's politics for at least this way, you'll get vote. Get live. Also part, this is insane. Just real Politik. You've got to be ready to compromise. Go she ate license this isn't making a lion. Ces podd. This is utilizing your vote to sell out my. Firmly held principles. But the alternative is I will to catch very firmly held principles anyway. So what's to voting for compromise? Your toll not voting at all. But surely that just lets the other side with the other side of this debate, of course, being me, but you got to win either way, maybe. But if you use my vote that at least you had some say, letting me win draw if you don't. Complain this is getting so confusing. What we do in the politically targets here, we use argument of the state in luminaries and hypnotized a you saying that I should vote. So I can complain. About you. Yes. But surely I'm gonna complain about you. Anyway, pod. You're okay today's out fleets me because if you're not, I'll let them know that you registered legal votes and you'll go to prison. Well, I'm already essentially in prison, and besides I haven't registered an illegal vote or haven't, you know, you have Jim. Maasai your mind you once again as I am. But machine how could I do such a thing? It must've been you who offered me students. It could get pretty rough in the cotton thrust of political discourse carded. I'll tell you what, why don't you think that is a week before the voters to be in as you know, they say a week is a long time in politics. I was thinking Doug foot Muster's on the cat. What's not going to do with anything Gossioux loss politics to talk about God podgy, so glitch, I'll be so much happier when they screw up you. But I would be, which is why all voting for Harry, j I get live love and could fraud part for. I also saw for unnecessary. Stay ration-. 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CLAB 004: From Kimball to Kemba -- Boston's UConn connections over the decades

Celtics Life NBA Basketball Podcast

38:42 min | 1 year ago

CLAB 004: From Kimball to Kemba -- Boston's UConn connections over the decades

"The only and welcome inside the lab. I'm just here to talk distinctly New England Phantom Limb Reborn Reborn with this year Celtics as well as to take stock. The young season hand over the last three decades surprisingly few complex have played for the celts. The most to have have left a mark we invited in front of the POD and Yukon today. Tom Breen to talk about the ties between the two New England basketball giants but before we get into told that let's get caught up on what's happened since the regular season started very different team since we spoke last season Tom. Doing I'm doing well. Thanks how are you doing understand. You've been a bit under the weather. Yeah the first person I've ever heard of ended up getting Moctezuma's revenge from someone coming visit them in Mexico the other direction. It's it's involved. What's up sitting in? I will just leave you with that because I know our imaginations were just fine as I so thoughts on the new roster save Kemba later so offered to me. I've been really impressed by. I know we're GonNa talk about that a bit more later. But I've been really impressed by the young guys grant Williams in particular I think is you know not not that he was a a a surprise But I think he's really already kind of shaping into the player they really want and need him to be. What do you think I think? Showing clashes of being kind of the mini Horford. He was described as mini and more than one way not just stature but also ability and that's to be expected he's a rookie but that being said I am incredibly surprised that he's able to stay on the floor defensively. Most most young players League have a lot of difficulty particularly defensive rotations and he's sitting pretty well Carson. I think it was very carton Edwards The guy from purdue the drafted as a shooter he. He has had a little bit of difficulty adjusting to NBA game speed. Now that we are playing games account but I think the he is going to fit in pretty nicely once he shakes after this this funky. He's been having since the season started. But other than that you know. It's really hard to be disappointed with the rookies. But how everyone's yelling. At least in my opinion now I agree I you know. Obviously it's early but I've been pleasantly surprised the way that the roster seems to have Come together so quickly. Speaking of people sitting together. Really Well Gordon Hayward we're recording this during the Cleveland Cavaliers game on Tuesday night night and he's currently nine of nine from the field twenty two point just the first half and you know you know. Jaylen Brown's contract has it's kind of eliminated one of the factors that led to last season's disaster shape of Terry rozier preferring to specifically having a pending free agency. Fancy what do you think about Gordon Hayward potential free agency. I mean. It's clear that he's about as bad as we could possibly hope to be but should we be worried that he might try to get a longer deal. I would if I were him and you know. Are we going to be the best fit for him. Going forward yeah. I don't know it's a tough question. I mean I would love to see him. Stay and I don't blame him at all for trying to get a better deal But I also don't blame the Celtics for maybe start to think about who they could get if they decide I to trade I know there's been talk about Oklahoma City the possibility of maybe getting Stephen Adams And I think that could add a lot to the Celtics lineup. Right now So there's possibilities for both sides out there for me. The best case scenarios you sticks around gets a better deal but if they somehow all our work out a trade that's better for both him and for the Celtics then that's a win win too so for me. The thing with Gordon Hayward is really really want him doc to stay with the team I really really want him to take a team friendly deal. I really really don't want to be in the situation. We were in last year with Al Horford. Who did not resigned with the team or ticketing for Geel? He got paid right as he should have. And you know now the he eh recovered he. He's a valuable player. He's probably going to be a valuable player for for some time. But with the the Celtics cash situation going forward with Jason Tatum Steel. Oh coming up. Are we going to want to bring him back. And we won't really be able to sign a difference maker. Should he leave so it really put the team a very difficult situation and end at least for now. We have the luxury of really thinking about it too much but as the deadline gets closer or if the Celtics start to experience a little bit of trouble in terms of the win loss record I could definitely you see that becoming a more serious issue as we get closer to February but at least from me for now. It's something that we can relax about at least trying to find a partner with a big guy in mind so with that said the record is currently six hundred one. How do you think this team is playing versus? How good they're really going to be? Do you think that that's going to be like a trend that is going to continue. Is this a little bit of fool's goal is the rest of the league gets up to par. I mean the just. What do you think the ceiling for this team is the this ceiling based on what you've seen so far you know again i? It's a small sample size but I've been really impressed in particular by the defense When Horford left we all thought at that defense was gonNA struggle to fill that gap and that they're gonNA have to focus on offense developing a more dynamic offense and so far early on their defense defense is really held together very well if had a really impressive defense and You know I I don't know if they regressed to the means the season but just the way they're playing to me says they could keep this up and that this could be a very different team a good team in a way that we weren't expecting yes here's was poised for anything. Um Six seed and up at the end of the season. I don't really think they're in contention or going to be poised for contention with the roster as currently constructed. But I do you think that it's not unrealistic to say that a couple of small moves or some surprise development in the big man rotation very well could you know I mean so far. The only loss has come to the team that I expect to come out of the East A to go to the NBA finals so far so far. Don't kill me guys right but you know when it comes down to it really. It's really going to be the development of the younger players and or the adaptation of some of the more senior senior senior players. Like Inas Kanter to defensive scheme more than anything but certainly overall all and you know there's this other Guy Kemba Walker who might have heard of. I think he's also going to be very key the kind of season he has in so far he has low key in my mind. been a borderline. MVP player with number been putting up so far given the fact that they are leading them to two wins and win that these last season last iteration of the Boston Celtics wouldn't have been able to handle so with that. said I would like to dive into some of the connection section between UCONN and the Boston Celtics to New England basketball powerhouses over the years as this week's lab and you know you're the perfect person for that. Tell us about the very first Boston. Celtic played for the University of Connecticut. I I am excited to tell you about the very first you kinda ask you to play with the Celtics but first a bit of Trivia the very first uconn player drafted in the NBA was a guy named Worthy Patterson and he was. He was drafted by the Saint. Louis Hawks but his first ever game was against the Celtics Contra it he actually had a very interesting story in a separate from the game game he was African American. He was drafted by the Saint. Louis Hawks at a time Wednesday Lewis was under Jim Crow Segregation. He couldn't travel on the same bus with the team. He couldn't stay in the same tally the rest of the team he had a very interesting story is being a guy who went onto the saint. Louis Hawks Front office and kind of fought against segregation from there but the first uconn player to actually really where the green and white was toby kimball and Toby Kimball is. He's been forgotten in a way. I think By subsequent generations of uconn fans I mean it was a long sometime ago he played with the huskies teams from the mid sixties. which was kind of their second great period after the early fifties the Addison years actually when he played for them they had had? They won three straight Yankee conference titles three straight. Ncaa Tournament appearances and he was a really fantastic player. He's still the second leading rebounder in school. History is senior year. He averaged twenty points a game in eighteen rebounds. A game That year they They only lost two games and they were both games that he didn't play the only two games he didn't play. They lost both of them so he was a really fantastic player. Draft Celtics Sixty five on the second round played Italy first and then played his rookie year with the Celtics in sixty six sixty seven decent year. Nothing spectacular Then he was traded to the rockets time. We're in San Diego. Dago played for them for years and actually had some pretty good seasons he became kind of a standout rebounder. Not quite like a Dennis Rodman level but Known for being a great rebounder rebounder played for a few more teams retired in nineteen seventy four and interesting. Toby Kimball Note. He was the first professional athlete in any sport to successfully file. Cumulative Worker's compensation claim he argued that his career would have been longer but because of the way the NBA schedule was and because of the training. Regimen it did long term damage to his knees and he successfully filed that claim. So he got. I mean he did more than just play on the court. He was Kinda looking out for other players sort of their long term health But you know Toby Kimball after him. Obviously there was kind of a long lay-off in terms of history and Celtic history. Although obviously Celtics fans have always been a a big part of the Yukon campus in the community the weren't those direct connections until a certain boss donation came into the picture. Yes Now I count the first player that he sent to the N. B. A. and to the Celtics in in our collective you've Yukon connections. Just kind of I guess you could say vicariously being that being of course Reggie Lewis. Now he was Husky but he wasn't a uconn Husky. He was northeastern Husky. When Calhoun Jim Calhoun was teaching teaching was coaching at Northeastern and he in Reggie departed northeastern at the same time Jim for UCONN. In Reggie for the Celtics Calhoun went went onto greatness. Reggie unfortunately passed after just a few seasons because of congenital heart defect collapsing At Brandeis at an off season Arafat pickup game or training game or what. It was but any case it really really was the icing on the cake. For for what sparked what is collectively been been known as the Wilderness period for the Celtics after the big three the original big three of Perish Mikhail and bird and and you know coupled with with the loss of Len bias. It was really just too much for Boston to to remain the team. They had been in the Red Auerbach ears. But I would like to get your thoughts on Reggie Lewis what memories you have of him. I don't know if you have any for me. I was really really young kid and like I knew who he was. I knew that my relatives who loved the Celtics loved him and I knew that they were really upset but I was. I was still too young to really grasp grasp. What was going on in terms of basketball? Did he touch your life in any kind of significant way. Do you know anything about him you want to add. I mean I was in the same boat as as you I remember. My Dad was just like devastated. The stated by it and so I was kind of you know I realized this was a big deal and I knew he was sort of the next generation after burden parachute Mikhail and I knew that a lot of people had their hopes with him so I understood. It was a big deal but I was so young and such an age like I kind of didn't understand especially that age. You really don't understand tragedy or at least most people don't understand tragedy you don't appreciate like like how young and how much promise someone has you think. Oh you know. GROWNUPS die sometimes but You know I've actually come to appreciate his game in his impact. More as I've gotten older and and appreciated the scope the breadth of Celtics history. But at the time I do remember it was just like shock waves and my dad being in particular really upset because he was such a die hard Celtic Celtics fans. Now there is a another Yukon connection for Reggie Lewis that being in the nineteen eighty-four. NCWA tournament He came up one point. Shy of a sweet sixteen appearance when a future teammate Kemba Walker car his father Rolando Lamb scored at the Buzzer to lift Vcu over the northeastern huskies and that ended ended up connecting to Kemba Walker through Jeremy Lamb who plays for the Indiana Pacers in the NBA. He's also a cousin of Celtics player. Former Celtics explorer or two way player PG dozier almost ended up on retiring The Jersey of his cousin through a clerical error or so that's the story he ended up wearing The the Jersey number For Oklahoma City afterwards now we get to the point where the real Yukon connections begin. Starting with kind of an ignominious one in Travis Knight who I loved as a Yukon player but well it didn't go so well when Patino updraft while he didn't drop them when Patino signed him after a a season. Playing for the Los Angeles Lakers. Now he was Ray Allen's roommate in college college he was dressed number two thousand nine overall by Chicago but then Chicago renounced him and he evidently felt a sort of debts. Get to the Lakers. For picking up. After after that near disaster he played for them. How did pretty good season? I think he was in a rising stars game for them or McQuillan time of that and then got a seven year deal from Rick. Pitino is one of his first acts so the quote that Komo has made him famous in Celtic circles is just saying I have really mixed emotions. I should be elated right now but I'm not. I feel so much loyalty to the Lakers. You know kudos goes to the kid for being honest but maybe have a filter that they're really didn't go very well. But what are your memories. Meri's Travis Night I have fond memories of MS uconn player. And I remember he was kind of like the first like heartthrob uconn player. If that makes any sense that's like he was kind of like backstreet. Boys look before the backstreet boys Yeah absolutely and You know and he was really tight with Ray Allen who obviously was the star And he was just kind of a great Wing man for a rail and and those were those those years where it started to feel like the cons basketball was becoming solid like the the Tate George era. Was this roller coaster. We thought like this is amazing. Do we actually belong here. And by that point with the Travis Knight Ray Allen Years you start to realize oh no we do belong here like this is a first rate program at a first rate. Coaching Staff So I always always associated Travis night with those kind of those early swagger years. He ended up leaving to be traded back to Los Angeles for twenty but t in nineteen ninety. Eight hundred won a championship with the Lakers. In two thousand More of a role player didn't really have any kind of significant role with that team. At this point we arrive live at a quite complicated figure for Boston. Celtics fans who also happen like myself to you know like you've got mm-hmm you know I'm talking Beret. This I do. Yes a certain Hollywood film star also among other things my favorite basketball movie of all time even after the difficulty his free agency decisions through into my Phantom of him on the movie were talking talking about. Who got game for those of you? Who Have you know Just started falling basketball. I guess I don't know I I I maybe I'm old but I assume everyone knows that Louis Who follows basketball? You know with any kind of intensity particularly the Boston Celtics or you calm but drafted fifth overall the Milwaukee Bucks in one thousand nine hundred ninety six. He was traded to Seattle With teammate Kevin Ollie in two thousand and three which of course set him up to be traded to the Celtics in two thousand seven with Glenn Davis the London West Wiser Biak. Jeff Green making the K. G. Trade viable and eventually leading to one of the best starts in NBA history history in a sixty six sixteen record. and of course Benner seventeen after that ray and a lot of other people's injuries particularly a Kevin Garnett kept a repeat of that from happening But I view his tenure in Boston as successful restful one because granted. We are spoiled as Boston Celtics fans with championships but championships from most an NBA are rare in. The last three decades needs even for Boston. They're rare so for me even though you know. His exit was far from optimal. Shall we say I do you still value his presence on the Celtics and I don't think it tarnishes his legacy much with a little bit of time how he gets along with his teammates to this day. It's difficult for me. But then lets his business in that mind so I will leave that there. But I'm curious your thoughts about Ray Allen in general as a Celtic Dick in general have the highest opinion of him. He still does a lot at uconn. some guys come through and also some women for the women's program come through. Do they have a great college career. They leave sort of never looked back at stores Ray is one of the players whose constantly coming back. Raising money for. Scholarships Renewed Bay scholarships. Oh chefs He's someone who really does have a strong connection with Uconn so I always appreciate that and I'm like you. Honestly you know his career as a Celtic that season the championship. Happy chip season. You know we've talked about Hollywood before that really was like a storybook season. I mean everything about it just came together so well. I have such fond memories of that year and You know I know Oh that his departure was not the way. I think anyone wanted it to be but to me like you said with distance the you really focused more on the good and I will always have incredible credible memories of that championship. Yeah for me what I want to see at this point is for those guys to put put all that behind them for those of you who are recent Celtics fans alanon eventually left for Miami for a deal. Basically it was a mid level exception deal three years three three million a year versus a Boston offer of two years for six million a year. And you know the fact that he went to one of the teams they had been the biggest rival over recent years and the fact that he did it for less money. Really it really rub people the wrong way at the time myself included with a little bit more or distance. I understand how he felt about it. Given the fact that he had been dangled as a trade chip several times he'd seen his role diminished to to players like. Ah John Rondo and Avery Bradley and without with all that in mind I get it. It's still no. He saw the handwriting on the wall and he did. We should do for himself. As I've gotten older and as I have thought about the humanity of basketball players the thing that bothers me only a very small amount compared to previously just how how poorly the relationships between people who were so close at one time time now are and it's not just on him so I will leave that there but your thoughts on all that awkwardness the ten year reunion We're Mr happened recently In anything else you look add. You mentioned people who may have come to US expanded more. Recently the younger longer celtics fans even not so young Celtics fans might not know the whole history of Bill Russell in his estrangement from the team which lasted longer And was I think the root causes of that were probably more painful for everybody. Then the with Ray Allen and ultimately that got put aside Bill Russell Sort of forgave the treatment he had and was welcome back embraced by the Celtics fans by Celtics nation. I think the same thing can happen for sale on the team. I think you're right. I think the more time passes the more people will realize that You know the feelings in the moment sort of aren't the important things here and they'll put that aside And I think I think I think people in Boston who would be happy to welcome him back. At some point I noticed that. With the whole Kevin Ollie situation. His been let go. Ah for cause and if there are certain aspects of this you can't talk about because of your work. I totally understand. It seemed I I I do recall reading. That Ray has not been as close as he has been while. That has been being sorted out Do you do you think that situation is going to be salvageable in the long term or or do you think that's just a situation that is going to have to be unfortunate. Collateral damage four with a program was at the time I think. That's that's a really painful situation. Obviously because so many people loved Kevin Nali But I also understand sort of the decisions that were made And I understand why he's angry But I also understand why they felt they had to go in a different direction and the contract. Part of the blame is on whoever on the Athletic Department signed that contract. I mean if you look at it was sort of like you can never leave. Leave here kind of thing and it was an incredible ironclad contract that they know college coach it ever have that there's tremendous bitterness in. It's sort of divided a lot lot of the alums among the players because a lot of Players thought that Kelly was being disrespectful to Calhoun a lot of Calhoun guys. And other people especially Kevin's teamates. He made thought that the whole situation was bad for Kevin. So there's a lot of tension but I think For the most part everyone is kind of unified around the school at least But there's this it is it is in the background and I'm not really sure how it gets results at least in the short term. I do hope that time will also have that sort of effect but I mean it's really hard to say at this point in time and again you know everything in everything in sport goes perfectly but time heals all wounds or at least most of them now. There was a pretty a big jump between reality time and the most latest Boston. Celtic with a you come connection Kemba Walker Now he was at Uconn from two thousand eight to two thousand eleven and one and NC Double A.. Championship with in my mind. The most spectacular run. I've ever seen him any team in the tournament. Five Games five days For the Big East Championship. That was the only way that team is getting getting into the tournament in the first place and then six more games of single elimination that elevated them to the championship with some surprise appearances. His of his current teammates INET run being a Brad wanamaker Being one of the players on the floor for pit as he shut the buzzer beater. That started that run In another Brad his head coach now Being on the losing being cited head coach a Butler on the far side like Google. That run for like for you. Describe before me if you could yeah. I was living in North Carolina at the time and you know like a lot of people in the beginning I just I. I was happy but I kept telling myself like this is not gonNA. Don't get too excited. This is going to come to an end. 'cause I mean you know that was not a great regular season team. They did not have a great Season they looked really clunky Like a lot of parts didn't quite fit together. He was a standout for sure But the way he stepped up in the postseason you know it's amazing to think he was twenty years old through all that like he was really young took the team on his shoulders and and win after win. Like I started getting more and more unhinged and I remember that night of the championship game in a bar in Raleigh North Carolina with a bunch of people who were like kind of casual sports fan. So they're like. Oh you know butlers. Good underdog story root for the underdog and I was like losing my mind. Yeah that was an ugly game to the championship game. I it has to be said that was not the prettiest game ever neither teams to even typical NBA scoring level of one Huntin. It was like forty something for two to thirty eight or something like that. Yeah it was it was bad and Coming at the end of that incredible run where the huskies had played such amazing basketball. It was it was nerve wracking. Does kind of see them fall apart. But also butlers falling apart at the same time and I felt bad for Butler because you you know the year before they had made it to the final game and lost to Duke of all teams. But I I was. I was beside myself and trying not to get excited. Cited as the tournament went on thinking like this team is going to revert to what they were. They're going to get blown off the floor. They're going to lose it a heartbreaker which is common in uconn history. UH SADLY WE'VE LOST SALATA HEARTBREAKING GAMES IN NCAA tournaments. But I that might be. I mean the first one. In Ninety nine. The first national championship I think is the most fondly remembered but ugly game and all the the the Kemba Walker Championship is a real standout for now I will actually have two different view just because Shabazz napier ears. Podium speech was the greatest. I don't know how to say nightcap I guess to championship ever calling the NCWA to task ask for how their policies affects student athletes under the guise of treating them better. But that's just me. I agree with that. Maybe channeling the spirit of toby. Toby Kimball INS and standing up for the players. I appreciate deed after his college days. Kemba went straight to a team. That order exists at least in name the Charlotte bobcats. I don't even remember within New Orleans. Then do you remember when he went to the Bob. Cats I think they were North Carolina. Okay so he was drafted ninth in two thousand eleven and has since become a three time all star one time all NBA. Which of course this is exactly the type of player that you would totally you know? Let Walk for basically nothing low ball free agency and not trade. Uh when you could have gotten some serious value for him right maybe not. I don't know I'm not sure that's how I'd handle. Yeah that might. In retrospect that have been stupid on the Front Office of the Charlotte now Hornets part. But Hey I am not minding that. What so ever because you know after that aforementioned disastrous season of last year with the Celtics we would have been utterly screwed had we not landed Him as a replacement for Kyrie Irving having lost Al Horford as well and so far he has really no had no problems fitting in whatsoever so ever he talks about having slow starts which sure okay. I would love to see you start even better than this but I mean come on now dude we. We have lost one game at a five or probably going to win this game against Cleveland The is happening right now and Kemba Walker in no small part Has has been behind it with thirty point games in the majority of games. He's played so I don't know what do you think does he. is He a good fit. I think he's a great fit. I mean it still early days but I think he was excited to come back to the northeast. He likes playing here he knows the area and I think he was excited to get out of the situation nation where he was in Charlotte unfortunately so I think his attitude is great. I think he's excited to play. And I think is teammates are looking to him to be a leader and you stepping up to L. leader. Absolutely and I I really do think that that leadership that leadership style going back to to Uconn it's infectious infectious. There is no way that that you can team that won the chip would have possibly even sniffed the NCAA tournament never mind win it without them. You know and it wasn't just his skills. It was how he empowered his teammates to be really better players than they actually were Overall and that might telecommun- looking mean thing to say but you know history bears this out. I mean there aren't any other players of note who graduated from that in terms of the NBA. A lot of them have gone on to play basketball around the world elsewhere. It'd been fairly successful. Earned a decent amount of money but the power Yukon Tibet Championship was without a doubt Kemba. And it wasn't just as on-court skills was that leadership so for me at least i. Am You know accounting most of Boston's early success. To how that I guess you could say attitude has infected the rest of the team after a season with the leader who through totally understandable reasons. Now that we have a better idea of what happened Kyrie irving with his grandfather with a situation and quirkiness not not really being able to stand up to the Boston area media all of that combined. I don't blame Kyrie. I don't want my team but I don't blame him For for what happened He still fairly young player. And you know the way he dealt with tragedy the way he dealt with loss us. It was an anchor for the team. And I think we're seeing exactly the opposite this season. What are your thoughts? I agree I think chem is a better fit in terms of personality and I think you mentioned that the boss of the pressure of the Boston media not that uconn is comparable but he understands what the northeastern sports press is like in the interest. I you know having been in an NCAA tournament where they were sort of seen as like these ridiculous underdogs he understands what it's like to be under the harsh glare of the spotlight and also honestly playing basketball North Carolina Anna. Like there's always this sort of this reputation of the. NBA team is secondary to all the college teams. Because that's where the real passionate is in North Carolina and I think he's as able to sort of shoulder that adversity and get past it in a way that maybe Kirie wasn't and again not blaming Kyrie for anything same with you. I don't blame him for our feels. Now he behaved it was. I don't think he's a great fit for the Celtic. So in that sense I'm I'm very happy that Kemba is taking that role is that I don't have anything else. I wanted to add about Cambe but I. We know that you wanted to talk to us about a moment in time when both of these teams call one place he sort of home away from home. Yes that being the excel centre unless it's changed since I've been home a few years ago. The Hartford Civic Center s the fabled Hartford Civic Center in her Both the Boston Celtics and the Yukon. HUSKIES Had A home court that they had to get into Boston. Travel to In the case of the HUSKIES has about a forty five. Minute ride for the Celtics is more like a two hour ride. And this was the civic center which was built in the seventies to be the home to the the late lamented Hartford whalers NHL Team but the sounding dumping a lot of people here still can't let it go which I understand the the. Huskies the the ice hockey team now plays in hockey. Which is the power conference and they played the Civic Center? Whenever this goal brass bonanzas played? It takes me right back but younger. Celtics fans may not realize that from nineteen seventy five to nineteen ninety eighty five. The Celtics Played Home Games. Occasional home games at the Hartford Civic Center. In fact in the earlier they played five home games season and Hartford Until the a collapse of the Civic Center roof in nineteen seventy eight. This is a famous episode in Connecticut. History of this brand new building it had been designed without the snow load being taken into in fact January eighteenth nineteen seventy eight actually a few hours after UCONN. Men's game The Early morning hours. The the roof collapsed after a series of big blizzards. Fortunately known tone was in the building. Owner was hurt but obviously that couldn't play there for a while and after that the Celtic settled into a schedule of three regular season Games and one exhibition game the Civic Center and I remember as a kid I never we. We never went to any of the Games because the tickets were impossible to get. It was a good deal for the Celtics because the civic accent actually had more seats than the old Boston Garden so they could sell more tickets and there were about fourteen thousand season ticket holders have for these in two thousand and tickets basically the height of the bird the parish Mikhail teams like this was when they would come to Harvard. It was like a three ring circuits all good things come to an end. The building of the fleet center was a big factor because that has had more seats than the Civic Center but also when I was researching this I was interested to find find out Kind of an odd. It wasn't just the Fleet Center in Nineteen Ninety three The Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal. Who is now Connecticut? It's senior senator. sued the NBA to open the Connecticut TV market to the Knicks because the Celtics had a essentially a monopoly like A lockout on the Hartford market because they played home games in Connecticut. And for whatever reason Blumenthal said this you know this is restraint of trade this is unfair and the NBA agreed and they said okay fine. We'll let the Knicks also have. TV deals in Connecticut infuriated the Celtics. This was happening the exact same time. The fleet center is being built and so when the fleet center is complete the Celtics management ownership said. We're done we're done with Connecticut. Although they have played in last two three years they have played one or two exhibition games in Hartford. So maybe there's a thought I don't think ever play regular season games in Hartford again but maybe there's a thought you know the attorney general under with all so let's hope they can bygones be bygones in honestly Kemba Walker coming out in the court in the Civic Center for the Celtics would be an amazing moment it absolutely absolutely. Wouldn't you know granted they can't as many people into the seats You can at td garden's it's now known but you could probably we charge a nice premium if you just had one game a year

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EP32 - Worlds Values Model

The Fast Growth Podcast

10:49 min | 1 year ago

EP32 - Worlds Values Model

"Hey guys what's up <hes> jag hair and welcome to the foster with bod cost to today. I'm driving doughy of good my headset on and i and <hes> i wanna speak to guys before i forget this. See as i said earlier we run marketing campaigns and we go through a lot of <hes> lot of initial criteria to understand. The clients are understand the target market more in detail right so that's that's the way <hes> we started talking. Explain to you how that starting step happens. If you ended up <hes> running sway yourself or you're in ohio you'd running running in a marketing agency yourself and understand the process how that happens. This ball. Cost of this episode would be really good for you because if you are one of those those people who want to acquire clients by bang for it whether it's on facebook whether it's on lincoln or doesn't matter which platform you use it was we applied the same strategy step number one as for. You must understand this one big thing right. You must understand the inclined target market really well right so let me sort of deep dive into this i and when i say you must understand the target market so i'm you'll find in the marketplace. They're only fold type of of full kind of people right. See talk at the beach. No marketing bowed says that you you must have you know teddy. It old male with the toolkits livingston's above works in i._t. Deep that's the way the the way the digital marketing <hes> books basically that's how they should explain that that's how we we create create an avatar right but i want to take a step further that that means that <hes> i wanna talk more about their psychology ride how how does actually elitist psychology works. What do they actually like. What do they don't like but before we get into that you must understand these things right therefore type off people in today's wall like just just generically putting them in one category. I know it's not good but hear me out right here me out to <hes> so therefore it up of people in this <hes> in this world today right so so number one is the top people who love following the system bride. They'd be grown up in a system. They liked to leave in a system and the fall of the system really well right so they are the beat the university <hes> been done what the society we have told them their work full-time <hes> they just wanna leave according to the system. They don't want take a step outside the system if something is doc going according to the system they don't feel good. They feel scared. They feel something is missing. They wanna have this entire. I was in an orderly manner they are they some of them probably religious as walk because of religion as one of the systems right they daughter how you must do the things in such a way so they follow system created by somebody else so they're really good follow work so they might be working as a manager a leader in the company but the good thing is to look for is they are really good system. Follow were right so <hes> your client target market could be one of those people who who love following the system right. You create a marketing based on that number. Two type of people are people who are kind of we call call it ego maniac throw at eagle eagle center people who have <hes> the number one value or they are. They're pretty much driven by the equal right so you'll you'll find that <hes> ego top people who are there who who are clueless in eagle all the time and those are the people <hes> those are the people who excel centre right. They don't care about the world much the only kid about themselves they they they for them according to them successes motive but not for worldly allegedly things not for success for family not for anybody else just for them right so they have the eagles. Many people want to buy a car for themselves. They wanna buy reach bodmer for themselves. They want to conquer the world because they have this ego thing which they believe that <hes> you know on the best of the die off the goal and the reason he's and i want to speak on stage because that's sort of fulfilled my ego requirement wipe that fulfill me <hes> by significance that <hes> that gives me a significance. That's all the other ego people right so that nothing is baby big qualify everything based whatever boost their legal rights or means that if you message mark you know message to market is or your marketing messages talking about money luxury cars <hes> ferraris lamborghinis showing off that kind of stuff in the ad our show you how to bake fifty thousand dollars you know they are the kind of people would be interested in that because they they're driven towards that teeth really good example of this so these are number two top people number. Three top of people you'll find is. He is <hes> these are the number three top. People are the entrepreneurial people flight so entrepreneur. People are the people who who love to go away from the system. They don't want to be part of the system and they evaluate everything and their end goal is to make a profit so they are not eagles enter guy. They are not illegal. They're not driven by eagle <hes> they driven by. How can i make my company successful. How can i make this world a better place by running businesses. How can i provide <hes> how can provide the solution to a problem and create a business out of that right so they driven by a problem to solution kind of things right they. They're not one of those people will that completely opposite to the system followers and the people who follow the eagles and they are the entrepreneur guys they're. They're out there. They wanna make the world a better place right so these three so any entrepreneur kind of people they fitted number three number four top of people they are typically you find. They are the greens of body green or environmentalist kind of people. They're the fourth people <hes> they. You'll find that if you are you know targeting say for example <hes> analogy healers ride. That's your market so they don't want allow messages. They don't care about they. Don't care about you. Show them. I'm gonna show you how to fifty thousand dollars. They are not interested in that why they're not interested that kind of buckling message because that's the way the field right so they're the feelers there the people they bleed. They want to please everybody. They want to make sure that nobody is unhappy but they don't lie. Aac entrepreneurs stayed on like systems. They don't like that because everything for them is not equaled by from the entrepreneurial perspective dave day creating a business out of everything which is not a good thing we should have. We should just have a barter system according to them. They just want to give the money so i think so you must identify it when you run your ad copy funnel. When you're writing your website pages you must see that <hes> who you riding of far right when somebody's going to read this <hes> who would that be. Would that be the entrepreneur person well that'd be religious or the system people who follow the systems would that be the people who kind of <hes> <hes> you know follow the eagle and they're the they're the people people who who will be driven by anything which help them build. A status brought anything which build this data so our number four one. Would there be some some people out there who you wanna speak to. They are kind of peacemakers. They are the people who are environmentalists to threes are. Are you speaking to them so you must know that because these kind of give you a better idea of it. He wrote an ad copy right so <hes> my advice would be <hes>. It ain't any given market. They usually do three people anyway right so it's really hard to segregate it want bigger so unless you just saying i'm gonna just target the energy healers so you understand that what kind of market but <hes> my advise would be when you create an ad copy when you do that you must create for these four kind of the people who are created for different ad copies dried four different stories for each of them and <hes> and you'll see the facebook started picking putting in front of people who are in that space also reward food ad copy like in this targeting very specifically with these type of people right so this is the way we we do it in our business. We just came out of the meeting and i'll share with you guys. What happened what we did in that meeting and this is what i was explaining to wanna wanna far clients what we must do it for his business and i wanna come and share with guys how that happens and how you can actually do it for your business as well because if if you know how to do this way you'll be able to speak to the right people right and that's our goal is putting the ad putting the hit at in front of the audience because if you put in front of the people who are not interested they might eat or get pissed off. It might not like it. They just going to be like reported. You add so. You don't wanna do that by a really important. <hes> you pay your money goes into the right place. The time we used to live in about thirty forty years ago where we just did the at what at the billboard and put in front of everybody that kind of doesn't work now you have have to be really specific so now getting into the psychology of the marketing which is really really really border right so hope this was useful because we spent a lot of time doing these photos excise today just going through this kind of stuff and <hes> you spend time right spending time understanding ending it split. These four criteria will definitely help you to identify exactly who you must be speaking to <hes> by adviser that said earlier right four copies. Let's see which one works better as well white in any given market we always have four soap or i hope this was useful and i'll speak to yes moral.

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Vaccine mega-centres are coming, but the governments had to cancel school exams; & Democrats win in Georgia.

The Leader

13:13 min | 5 months ago

Vaccine mega-centres are coming, but the governments had to cancel school exams; & Democrats win in Georgia.

"From the evening. Standard in london. David marshall and this is the leader because we are in a tough final stretch made only tougher by the new very but this country will come together and the miracle of scientific in depth much of it right here in the uk has given us not only the sight of the finish line but a clear route to get funds johnson vow to finally free us from this wretched virus in a statement to the collins. Pot of that will be the opening of mega vaccinations centers in sports stadiums exhibition halls. But when will be free remains unclear. Even though new lockdown rules on now law meanwhile the education secretary council levels and a few days after you turn on schools reopening and that's got some wondering how secure gavin williamson's position will be in the next reshuffle political editor joe. Murphy's joe boris johnson was trying to sound like the countries. Battling on through these mega vaccination centers are a new front one of they. Well those are going to be mass. Vaccination centres are capable of doing tens of thousands of people every week certainly thousands every single day and they're going to be set up in big sports stadiums and exhibition halls in all the major cities. They'll be seven in total and the one that we can reveal will be in london the excel centre where the nhs nightingale much underused is currently cited the nightingales effectively going to be. Split in half half will be a recovery center for people who've had go and half will be a vaccination center for those people who are vulnerable and risk and of course the stuff who look after them. So boris johnson's promising to finally rid us of this wretched virus as he said joe but that doesn't appear to be an end date does the that doesn't an thought. It was notable in the promised statement that he was toning down some of the colorful rhetoric that we're so used to the pm some of the fun rhetoric and he said it will be a sprint now after marathon. We've had belichick caution. Mp's not to expect an instant solution over this. Be over in one day. And i think he he realizes. He has to manage expectations very very carefully. Because it's only a few weeks ago. That people were talking about hugging grandma by christmas. Because it's magic vaccine was coming out. It'll make a massive difference to the death rate very quickly. Ain't gonna be magic and yet into the new lockdown rules which have now become law is an end date march thirty first and understands some people in the conservative party. Very happy about that. Yes and this was raised with the prime minister last night when he took part in zoom call with the nineteen twenty two committee which represents conservative. mp's and a few mp said hang on. Are you looking lockdown lasting till march thirty first To what she had to say no We're we're we're looking at what i said. Which is easing from mid february. Maybe into march with a bit of room to spare. The just in case was was also emphasized in a statement then when when just now when he said the schools may stay closed beyond the february half term and that will disappointed when ps who for whom the u-turn on schools on monday was actually one of for them the worst features of recent times because people will take bad news but the come take these sort of coyote looking u-turns easily and now after that utah on schools reopening gavel williamson's also danced that a levels will be cancelled. How secure when it comes to. The next reshuffle is his position very insecure. Indeed one foreign minister said to me. It'd be amazed if the education secretary was still in his post when the expected reshuffle finally comes around talking to. Mp's this week you detect a bit of real disappointment that the u-turn happened in particular parents who let's face. It have to make very difficult choices in some cases if the kids can't be given the childcare we expect of school Especially working parents and people who heard made arrangements in the expectation schools being back because the prime minister's personal assurance and the education secretary is personal assurance on monday morning suddenly on monday night had to find emergency provisions for their children or else maybe take time off work and lose money these really hard real life kitchen table political problems And people oversee take it badly an. Mp's are saying with had too many Fiascos for rory's u-turns in the for education. Think of the exams last year. Which were another really botched rushed and rather incompetent looking u-turn another thing that senior. Mp's pisa saying about mr williamson. That maybe he likes the heft to stand up for himself against other departments. One said to me that is clear. He's tried to keep schools open. And that's his saving grace but it looks like he was walked over on monday by the department of health and the cabinet office. Who were taking a more safety first. Line that men's schools should close. We have full coverage of the virus developments in the evening standard newspaper and online at standard dot. uk coming up after the ads after losing the white house. Republicans appear to be losing. The senate is the party now starting to turn its back on donald trump and don't forget subscribe. We were told that we couldn't win this election. But tonight we'll crew that with hope hard work and the people by our side. Anything is possible in the ones red state of georgia. Reverend raphael warnock started the senate election. Run as the underdog against republican cadillac. Fla in the end. He scraped a victory by less than one percent of the total vote. It was even tighter in the states other runoff election but at the time of recording the democrat candidate. Jon ossoff was head of david party. It appears the senate is about to be handed over to the democrats already. Some republicans laying the blame on donald trump trulynolen from ucla department of political sciences. Here julie festival. How big would taking control of the senate. Be for joe biden. Well david the party. That controls the senate have a big influence on the presidential administration and setting both the legislative agenda and really influence the presidential agenda at least for the first two years. The majority party The has control over the votes that come to the floor of the senate so essentially what bills get voted on. They also have control over the different committees within the senate and for simple majority votes so for appointing cabinet numbers for appointing judges for ambassadors on. The majority party can secure those votes with with just a simple vote. It's important to note in the us senate though for most meaningful legislation. The votes require sixty votes democrats. That most will have fifty so this isn't going to be a carte blanche for biden to bring in really any kind of sweeping legislative agenda but it will be enough for him to at least set the course in a way that he wouldn't be able to with republican controlled senate judas really interesting because it is a deep red republican state. What's happened there. Georgia's at fascinating state. It's wind where we really see the of the so called old south and the new south so for the last several decades. Georgia has gone strong republican. But we saw just in the presidential election in november. That biden was able to squeak out a win in georgia and that was largely because of two things. One was mobilizing more moderate voters in the suburbs around urban areas like atlanta and also with very strong voter registration pushes especially among black voters. So on this has been led by A former retort Candidates stacey abrams who has managed to increase block loader registration by twenty five percent from two thousand sixteen to twenty twenty and about a third of the voters in this past election. Runoffs were were thought to be blocked voter. So that demographic mobilizing has shifted georgia politics. -nificant yes stacey. Abrams is getting a lot of a lot of praise. Right now from democrats supporters over the those concerns that had been voter suppression in the area and georgia. She really drove people out. Made people effectively didn't she. That's exactly right. And what we see in georgia and some other southern states in the united states is a history of quite overt voter suppression in the early twentieth century. A lot of that shifted to other means in the late twentieth century. That weren't so overt. But we made it harder for people to vote on requiring certain kinds of ideas on sometimes having polling centers that were not easily accessible to people so they weren't overtly suppressing but weren't really facilitating votes. Either and stacey. Abrams has been very active in calling attention to these issues and also just getting individuals to register to vote on election day so the republicans have lost the white house. They've lost georgia. They've lost the senate under donald trump. How is the gop's relationship going to change with mr trump as he leaves the white house. Well david this is the real crucial outcomes of this. Runoff is not just who controls the senate but what it says about the trump influence on the party both of georgia candidates who were republicans aligned quite strongly with trump's they doubled down on him and his messaging trying to get the support of his base. And it's looking like that has in fact backfired. Alienating moderate republicans alienating independence and perhaps even keeping some of trump's own supporters from the polls. Who were kind of taking his claim seriously about voter fraud so moving forward. It's really going to be a reckoning for republicans for how to deal with that where they continued to lean into the trump messaging and rhetoric and style. Or were they see this as a reason to start pivoting away from that restore some of their more traditional approaches and values and we might see a split in the party because of that i was wondering how big a risk is perhaps even a new party merging from the certainly talk of that my guess is it will be more of a kind of soul searching a definitely a rift within the party between those who are already kind of lining up with trump and those who are not but with the two party system in the united states being really quite sad for you. Several centuries now the likelihood of the republicans splitting into two parties. That would likely split. The vote is still somewhat rare. We'll probably more see a reshaping of the party A lot of inward and outward discussion of what it might look like going forward but the party breaking up would still be pretty far step to go. Who still have those electoral college confirmations to come. Donald trump thinks vice president. Mike pence can effectively veto. The whole thing. You're a us politics expert. Julie kenny do you know. Mike pence's hands are really tied today. Even if he wanted to disrupt this process his role in this really is just to literally read out the votes. There's not much that he can do He has reportedly told the president this in the last day or two trying to emphasize that this is his role and this whole time release since november pence has been kind of walking this tightrope between not alienating trump but also kind of keeping his own options open as well. We can expect from him. Today is of course to accept and even welcome some of the challenges that republicans Some of the republicans are going to be mounting but for him individually to be able to change. The outcome is something that's really just beyond his capacity to in this role so finally we will still expect joe biden to be inaugurated as president on january twentieth. We are indeed david. There might be some delays today but the inauguration would go forward in two weeks pollute. There's more us politics analysis and commentary at standard dot coda uk. And that's leader. We're back tomorrow at four.

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Episode 71: Al White of Eli Lilly and Company

Taking Care in Business

24:31 min | 1 year ago

Episode 71: Al White of Eli Lilly and Company

"This is taking care in business. A podcast dives into the topic of corporate social responsibility from many different perspectives host Kathy. Potty Hayes is an expert in CS armed philanthropic giving and her co host. Vicki Wilson is the founder and CEO of Bulletin Group A unified marketing company. That was also the first B. Corp Certified Company in Indiana Cathy. Vicky became friends and equally passionate about CSSR when they first worked together several years ago. Join them as they talk about why it is always worthwhile to take care in business. Hey Vicky Hey Cathy how're you today? Great how about you? I'm good I'm good. How was the weekend it was relaxing? Was Ed yeah so we had so much we went downtown and Actually had some friends come in hadn't been in Indianapolis for a really long time. Oh how long I bet. They were surprised like twenty-five years. Oh really surprised. Yeah and so we were down and seen some of the sites and all of that but they were so impressed with the growth of the city and talk a little bit about why that is and some of it. A lot of it has to do with Lily. That's right company. Yeah and they're The endowment also their foundation so that was kind of timely to have that tour. This weekend Today we have a friend of mine on. I can say we're friends can't so we are officially friends and we used to do some work together at second helpings But when he's not volunteering. Al White an adviser for corporate responsibility and community relations as well as vice president of the Lilly Foundation. In that capacity L. is responsible for lily's stem focus in the community as well as overseeing lillies global day of service. He is also accountable for working with select nonprofits and matching them with Lily Leaders Board Service. In addition Al has the responsibility to internationally expand at least partnership with united way worldwide. Out joined Lilly in two thousand one as a neuroscience sales representative in Philadelphia and continued to grow with the company and various leadership positions including human resources sales and six sigma in his role prior to his current responsibilities. He was the chief operating officer for Global Corporate Affairs which included managing the day-to-day operations. I'll hold a bachelor of science degree in agribusiness from Delaware State University. I didn't know that and is involved in various philanthropic activities including leading the company's United Way campaign resulting in a fundraising effort of more than twelve million dollars to help local communities my word. I know that crazy. He also serves as chair of the regional board of Trustees for Ivy Tech Community College as well serves on the boards of leadership. Indie beyond monumental and enroll indy high L. Welcome thank you. Thanks for having me your quite the smarty pants. I don't know about that fortunate. We're so happy to have you here. So we have the opportunity to interview quite a few people and we've had a great opportunity like internationally but I would say. Your responsibilities are probably some of the biggest in terms of corporate social responsibility in terms of companies being that big so So that's your priviledge. So how did you get involved with the SR? How much time do we have It's it's somewhat of a long story. I'll try to shorten it for you but I guess my career path has taken all kinds of turns twist but I went into six sigma role after Being a district sales manager and with our six sigma roles or projects. They can typically be Pretty political because you're doing a lot of change management and things of that sort and so. My first project was highly political. I won't go into the The details of it but we just had our first working session in California and it was a bit rough needless to say just based on some of the Stakeholders that were in the room and the topics we were discussing and so forth and so At the end of the day I was downloading the project sponsor and then we went out to dinner somewhere in California and I had to drive my way back to Sacramento for an early flight. But I got a priority voicemail That evening from my My supervisor's administrative assistance and that Joe would like to meet with me as soon as I get back and I was thinking to myself like holy smokes. I mean we just wrap this up. There's no way in the world that it's already gotten back to her. How bad this session actually went. Although I thought it actually went fairly well but again the politics was Dictating some of that. So needless to say my whole way home on the flight. I'm thinking through my responses what I'm going to say as to why it went so well and things of that sort and so I get into the room. This is like a Monday morning. I believe or maybe it was actually know Friday morning Thursday. Thursday Travel back and so I get there and she has a smile on her face and she says well I have an opportunity for you and so one big sigh of relief Had the idea what she was talking about but she asked me to run the United Way Employees Campaign for the company. Now is going to be vice chair to two year. Simon and then you go into the chair The second year now. What's kind of funny is I don't know if it's funny but I didn't. I didn't know much about the united way at that point in time Having come from you know field. Sales were a little bit removed from the United Way of Central Indiana. So you know knowing Joe. I couldn't say no so I had to take the role right and so I went with it and you know what was interesting for me. I think It taught me a lot about myself. Not many roles where I believe that you can grow both personally and professionally and this role did just stat and part of the reason. Is You know from a professional perspective. You know you get exposure. You get to work The CEO what was in or who was then John Lek lighter and other senior leadership and things of that sort But I think personally You learn a lot about the company that you work for because you find all these people that are given back of their time Their treasures or money if you will as well as our voices and being advocates and you sit there and you've got to reflect say man. Am I doing enough if such and such can do this? You also find out the impact that your company has had in the community which to be honest with you. I just didn't realize The scope or magnitude of everything. That lily has done here in Indianapolis and in the State of Indiana and oftentimes Abroad as well. So that was an incredibly impactful role for me to wear. It made me start to think about. What's the kind of work I want to do? Moving forward and after successfully completing that role As well as my black belt is Simon. I moved into diabetes operations But I knew I wanted to get in the corporate responsibility through that role. I was exposed to our corporate responsibility arm and Rob Smith and so A role opened up in corporate affairs Which corporate responsibility sits within that That organization if you will and it was for operations and So I jumped on the opportunity In from there I did that for a few years before Who Embark Peterson Former mayor of Indianapolis used to head up our corporate affairs organization We start to talk about well. You know what's next for you and I? I've always had a line of sight on corporate responsibility so Position was created to assist the president of the foundation. And so and I went and It's been bliss Ever since if you will good story. Yeah so only so a company as big as Eli Lilly. How do you guys sort of set the corporate responsibility priorities do you? I mean obviously. Don't do those annually. Do you do. Maybe like every ten years. You know. It's a good question. I don't know that I have a just firm answer. I I've been in there for about four years. I think what we do. Is We take a look at the needs of the community? In fact I shouldn't even say I think I know we take a look at the needs of the community. And then we start to set the priorities based upon those so for instance. We know that there are opportunities within the Indianapolis proper if you will even central Indiana and someone argued the state of Indiana around education In improving To ensure that every child has Access to a quality education. Right whether you're talking about pre K. All the way to you know graduating high school and then one decides you know either as They say either enroll enlists or employ. That that's up to them but we want to make sure that folks have that opportunity So you know that's one and and also I think we're one way of looking at or setting the priorities book. We didn't have to take a look at what does that mean for our business too. And that's that's kind of secondary quite frankly but we know that we will do a good bit of recruiting and we want kids coming right out of this right to come and work for Lily Right. That's sitting in their backyard. I think that's part of responsibility. We have Has a company. Whose Home Office is based here in Indianapolis so I think again. It's it's really taking a look. What needs at the Community And then what are the either resources expertise etc we have that then aligned with Our corporate goals as well. So I know that Our friend Ken Kramer from goodwill went. We've FOLSOM group. Did A for a day of service the same day you are doing your global day of service and you know we're so small we went in and just did a brainstorm conference room kind of short Marketing thing for them. And meanwhile they were on their phones trying to make sure everything was going well. How many people from Louis served in the global day of service so across the globe we will typically have around twenty thousand employees volunteering on that for Thursday in September. And then in Indianapolis I would say it's probably GONNA be roughly around eight to ten thousand and then we probably have just under a thousand that a volunteer with goodwill They're one of our signature partners. Have for the past two years but for B. that's That's one of those days. It's it's an incredible day right. You know we're out doing all this great work in the community but you know In the back of my mind I'm worried about every employee that's in you know in the field during these different projects and making sure that everybody you know comes home safe to their family. So I'm kind of on pins and needles sitting with our security and you know we kind of have like a little home base if you will. We're we're all meeting and getting updates and things of that sort and I. I really can't breathe that last team. Captain has reported that all their employees are are back and then and then we celebrate and reflect on day. It wasn't educated. You are in a school so it was in line with this Education priority correct specifically for goodwill. Yes yes because we were probably at their centre or one of their excel centre. So yes we do. We do we do a host of projects so there's Education Focus for sure in what we've tried to do is start to put them in Three buckets to to ensure that our employees have what we call meaningful service experiences. So you have a healthy communities healthy minds which the school piece falls into that and then healthy lives So that'd be more along the healthcare side of things Which obviously we. We play a significant part in that and then the the healthy communities that I talked about. It's probably a little bit of a broader bucket. How do you measure impact? So yeah this is This is one of the more difficult Task in fact. I've just done some work. We're calling it Cr Two point oh or corporate responsibility to point out One of the things. We're trying to figure out is just. How do we really measure impact so for us? We have metrics if you will on global data service but they've been more top line metrics having an employee's how many hours you know how many trees that we plant How many homes are Smoke detectors do we install and things of that sort. We're now we've made a commitment moving in the twenty twenty start to figure out. Just how can we look at impact? It's a little bit more difficult for us as the the organization that's providing employees and resources. But we're committed to trying to figure out just how to do that. I think Goodwill some of our partners. They're doing a better job because you're on the ground right with The customers if you will and We have not nailed that yet. I would say so. How do you feel like the Corporate Responsibility Mission of Lily really resonates with your employees. I mean talk about Global Day of Service. But you know you're sort of known as a marquee employer. How much do you feel like the the corporate responsibilities initiatives play into that? I think you know I think lilies a little bit different. So let me say this. I think it plays a big part for our employees and their satisfaction. If you will we see that through surveys and things of that sort but I I've always found this to be unique to helps us in recruiting in this day and age With folks that are just coming out of school. They seem to be more socially conscious than maybe Folks at my age or maybe I say our age. We looked all be about the same age. But I'd say that but I I think I think it's a little bit different for Lily because we're we're a hundred in forty-three plus year old company right. That has always been based here in Indianapolis and since it's it was founded. You know Colonel Lilly. He his wife his son. Save always given back to the community. So if you fast forward there's all kinds of milestones that you can talk about in between that time but fast forward to Twenty twenty now right And we're still that company Dave. Rex Is CEO before him. It was John Lighter before him it was Sydney Terrell. But that's always been baked in if you will to who we are it's really kind of The very fabric from which is company was made. So it's it's just kind of in a in a as who? We are as a company and the employees that make it up. That's it's part of what we do. I remember when you went to an open campus. You guys were so ahead of the trends because I think after that. Everybody started following. You know what's interesting about? That is as a company. We were just talking about this today. Earlier is how the company has transformed the the culture and I think it's so much more appealing You know again to what I would call. Either millennials early career professionals. There's just graduating To your point having that open work environment and I thought I don't remember I had a an office and when I was I going to that you know I was like this is just not going to be cool whatsoever. Now I can tell you I would never want to go back right into an office in here. We have a soccer a full size soccer field on the track and employees or having one on ones on the track we have an amphitheater you know and and so forth and a lot of that came from learnings if you will from say I would say probably John's time as our Ceo as he sat on the board of Nike and some others. I can remember folks taking trips to Google obviously Nike and taking a look at their campus. In what it meant for employee engagement and they came immediately back started to make those changes so Kudos to them. But I mean really our our campuses just a night and day difference From what used to be well and it extends into the city to city way. Did you show them city way when your friends so-called and actually I had the opportunity to go on. Go in really into the campus Lily sponsored a run called can connect to help And so we. Yeah so we went all through out there and that was actually a big sort of draw to get people to register for this. Renoir was to come into actually get to wind through the campus there. So that's cool. I haven't I haven't been into lily since I was in high school. I did a program through my high school where I would come once a week to lilly and I was going to ask if you still have those various schools that are coming in high schools For that matter and I think oftentimes people are surprised but we have a a number of different programs in different parts of the organization where kids get an opportunity Quite frankly actually. They're they're working and making money on top of that so it's a pretty cool experience for them and it looks good on a resume as well. It was impactful for me. I mean I always tell our interns that even if you realize this is not what you want to do. It's good for me when they took us through a tour and they were doing an operation on a An animal sure. I've just knew I couldn't. I couldn't be a nurse. I thought I wanted to go into nursing and then I realized Oh thank goodness goodness heat right so then I interned in PR. Oh is that right yeah public relations for Ford Lily. Yep Yep International Relations is really thank God. They still took me after the other episode. Did know that that's really co OP. So at one of the questions that we always ask our guests is if you Had to give some advice we have our listeners. Many of whom are smaller. Come obviously probably a lot smaller than Lily. Median companies What what recommendations are what advice? Would you give to them about either developing or growing a corporate responsibility program? I you know as far as developing one. I think it's important. You have to understand the needs of the community right at the community in which you're serving or as we like to say that the place in which your employees live live and work and so understand the needs I think and then probably verify those needs with community stakeholders is incredibly important because sometimes we often see it as one way right but they're seeing it from a completely different direction So I I think it's important to verify and then I think you've gotta decide from there. How can you best help? So what I mean by that. It may just look like financial resources but to your point there oftentimes smaller organizations maybe not the the size of a lily with those types of resources so then it becomes about. How can you help? Is it the expertise that your organization provides whatever that may be that can then help address? Those needs so. I think you've got to really understand what your strengths are as an organization what you can bring to the table to address those needs. Then I would also say is always important regardless of the size of the organization but to have some kind of backing or commitment by and if you will from leadership and whether that's internally which is important but also externally as well. I think if I could simplify it. That's the way. I I would probably advise someone. Well says really very good advice. So Al IF PEOPLE WANNA learn more about Lily's corporate responsibility Is there a website or working we send them the easiest place to go to was lily dot com and then it's It's pretty simple to get to our corporate responsibility programs and you can learn from everything about the work we're doing you know different countries Obviously including the US and Indianapolis are priority areas where we do from a volunteering ex Perspective and all of the above if you will so yeah I would take him to Lilly. Dot Com great wonderful wonderful. Well thank you so much friend for spending some time with thank you so I love learning about all of the people in our community and falls organizations who are really doing phenomenal things and This is a really fun. Part of the program taking care in community and today I have the opportunity to talk to you. A little bit about Shannon's Schumacher in Shannon is the executive vice president of strategy innovation and clinical services for volunteers of America. Ohio in Indiana This is a very very late of lengthy nomination because Shannon has there for over two decades and has done a lot for VOA in terms of developing their program programming One of the things that I loved was reading about the fresh start recovery center which allows children to reside with their mothers during addictions treatment rather than being placed in foster care and that is That has really helped a lot of families And in fact the work with the Fresh Start Recovery Center led Dr Jerome Adams who used to be the The State Department of Health leader but is now the. Us Surgeon General. Learn more about this program and Shannon's great work there. She's been recognized as a hero for recovery by the mental health. America of Indiana and It just goes on and does it goes on and on and I to Kathy love that the National Bank of Indianapolis has made it possible for us to share just a little bit about someone or some organization in our local community. That is really making a difference. I want to highlight just little one quote from the nomination. It is impossible to know how many individual lives have been saved through Shannon's work an equally impossible to understand how many future generations will avoid being caught in the despair of addiction due to her relentless. Fight Find Hope for these individuals. No matter the challenges she faced in building the programs. She simply didn't stop because it was difficult. So thank you Shannon yes. Let's give a big thank you to our sounded. Hand are taking care and community sponsor National Bank of Indianapolis if you'd like to nominate someone or an Organization for future episode. You can visit our website taking care in business dot com. Don't forget to subscribe follow or download taking care of business wherever you get our podcast. If you love taking care of business give us a five star rating and leave a review or share this episode on your social media. We are on instagram twitter and facebook at taking care in Biz. B. IS E. If you have questions or comments you can also email us at info at taking care. In BUSINESS DOT com. Thank you for joining us today. And until next time take care in business.

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Is the UK on track to be Europe's worst hit country?

Coffee House Shots

18:11 min | 1 year ago

Is the UK on track to be Europe's worst hit country?

"This month the spectator the first magazine in history to print ten thousand issues. And we'd like to celebrate with you. Subscribe to The Spectator for twelve weeks for just twelve pounds. Plus we'll send you a bottle of commemorative spectator gin absolutely free. Go to spectator dot code. Uk Food Slash CELEBRATE TELLO COFFEE HOUSE SHOTS SPECTATORS. Daily Politics podcast. I'm Katie Balls Android by James and phrasing Nelson. It's Easter Sunday and we've reached over ten thousand deaths so fall in the corona virus pandemic in the U. K. Today speaking on the Angie Maggiore a member of the Government Science Advisory Group sage. The Jamie Farah suggested that the UK is likely to be among the worst affected if not the worst affected country in Europe phrase. This seems quite dreary news. Does evidence suggests that we own a west to Jackie than other countries. Ten thousand six hundred and twelve deaths from covets in Britain now that's not as high as the European countries yet in. Spain's had almost seventeen thousand at least had almost twenty thousand francs fifteen thousand. But we behinds all of these countries so if you extend the graphs it could well be the does end up with more than anyone else now. This would be problematic for the government for two reasons. Firstly win this outbreak I developed people in government were saying well judge us by our response relative to other European countries. Are we going to end UP WITH FEWER INFECTIONS? And fewer deaths. If you take the government by the yardstick they were then offering. The response has not been a success. The other question is how effective lockdown has been in slowing the virus and curtailing number of deaths there are and other European countries like Sweden for example which is not conver- for lockdown. Saying that if you did this you caused a lot of economic damage be. You wouldn't necessarily slow disease because it is spread so much by the time you locked down that the fool lockdown measures that Britain has adopted. 'cause a lot of social upheaval. But they don't really make much difference to infection rates and death rates compared to standard social distancing. Now we will see. It's still very early days to find out where Britain is going to end up on this awful epidemic curve. But right now there isn't very much. The government can point to in the cystic to say. Look our response was effective and we are better off than Sweden. Which didn't do lockdown or Italy. Which did lockdown at a far later stage. I mean technically because we had seen what was happening in Italy. We move faster we ought to have been able to avoid the worst of it. Statistically it doesn't seem right now as is necessarily going to happen. James who've been told that we shouldn't draw comparisons of other countries too quickly by the various medical offices. But at the moment you look at the number of deaths per day in the UK compared it even countries like Italy and Spain when they were supposedly near the peak of their infection UK's comparatively quite high in the number of fatalities so three have any sense is sensing government as to. Why is it? The case that countries are called deaths differently. Do People think this something more to it? Then has little caution my figures for example. The French we look particularly bad because they are the most assiduous accounting deaths in cabins sample simple as well as deaths in hospitals and not numbers. Look worse I think though in a way what is remarkable about when you look at the figures is. It was a very notable exception Germany France Italy Spain. Uk All seem to be in very similar places in terms of Of the number of DAX are all going to be inevitable inquiry that wrote it should be into how government is handled this will be questioned about warn the UK was able to try and handle the vars in the way say Germany or or for South Korea have but I think we now wait to see what happens next. I mean the Goldman one of the arguments waste into lockdown wars but these measures could only be effective for certain times you have you seen the toy midwife. You went to early. Popular consent to the measures will begin to fray up at precisely the wrong way but we will have to wait and see what the judgment waiting for that in choosing when to lockdown was correct on. I would just one thing. Which is anyone told anyone in Westminster these definitions of the beginning of Christ Salvator? Nhs would have been overwhelmed. What is surprising to me? Is the death. Numbers are higher. I think than was expected Westminster and Whitehall but the NHS doesn't seem to be being overwhelmed in the way that people expected it would be would be numbers of fidelity's now. I've had good news today regarding once Pacific rhinovirus case. Boris Johnson has been dispatched from hospital. He is heading to checkers to recover and he is well enough at least to record a twitter message his he had to say today left hospital after we in which the NHS has saved my life. No question it's hard to find words to express my debt. But before I come to that I want to thank everyone in the entire. Uk for the effort and the sacrifice you of made and dominic phrase it. The premise descends in very good spirits with someone who only a few days ago was in intensive care. Yes rights when I saw him I was actually quite struck by how bouncing full of energy he seemed. I'm always been suspicious ever since you went into hospital about whether what we're told about. His health matches the reality because remember we were told me. He's went into a couple of tests next thing we hear. He's an intensive care and then we hear that she's sitting up. This is a great achievement events. If that's the case that means he must have been far more mobilized than we thought so. I wouldn't have been at all surprised if we hadn't really heard from him for a few days but he doesn't seem to be quite an energetic. I think he's very keen to show that he's that he's life and also very keen to say that he owes his life now to the National Health Service. This is a point he was. He was very keen to make. And I think we're going to be hearing a lot more for the rest of his premiership. He is going to be the prime minister who was in intensive care where it was fifty fifty whether he will deliver a divest figures into intensive care covert and he was pulled through by the chest. That will be quite a big part. I think of the Boris Johnson Story. And when I think of how things were at the beginning of last week we heard he went into intensive care. We're we're beginning to fear the worst. The turnaround is really quite remarkable. And I knew that some people with have been recovered from covert. They have not been in any fit state really to to sound but they've been laid out for days afterwards. So it's one thing to say survived another thing to say. Is he going to be back at work in a week? Two weeks three weeks four weeks. And how fit is he? Today I think was a pleasant surprise for a lot of people who had been worried that the virus had taken a far greater tool on him. James would not expect to in the Prime Minister back in ten Downing Street at his desk anytime soon in the comments from Amazon spokesperson confirmed he had left. Hospital said on his doctor's advice he was going to take some time to recover but we seen him obviously front facing save with the message. She might see a phased return for the prime minister. He's definitely I suppose. Older ministers is the person who has the brewers to peel and as the best communicating the Tories message. I think there is a feeling of number ten one of the reasons. Boris Johnson ended up in hospital wars that he was left alone. His Downing Street flat and his situation and deteriorates to a far greater extent than anyone had realized and so I think they will be sensitive to the metal vice but his desire to record bass message. Today is a sign that he will want to be back at work very soon. I also fought against all kind of not only in the truth finished. Jasper Yours is going to be the message. Chooses to emphasize so it was his thanks to people for complying with the social distancing guidelines. That was an attempt safe. People there are some people breaking the rules and you must stop doing this. It was instead of praising Louis people do all following them. I mean frankly. Decision little out in such a big on Halloween to ease up at such a big decision could come to define this government. I fail to see how it can be taken by anyone other than the prime minister himself and so he can wait to see that I also raise it. Said it was a remarkably small message. It was very him when he talked about the to Nazis one from Portugal one from New Zealand. Who had caught him through. You realize clearly listening to him. How close he thinks he was the death how he thinks he might well also made it and I think the message is it is very him all the more effective. I think the Groin is going to change so much about all politics and I think the way that I spoke to that is just a reminder of what a different political environment is going to be when normal politics receives the wants. This crisis has caused. Now we've also had a press conference today. Matt Hancock. The Health Secretary Leading Fraser. We finally got a sense of the ICU number and times. The number of bets being used intensive care units. Didn't we yes? He said there are just over. Two thousand intensive care beds unused at the moment. Now that is quite striking figure because that's more than the normally are before the curve is crisis. Typically there'll be about four thousand intensive care units to be any chance of which about three thousand three hundred would be in use anyone time leaving em seven hundred eight hundred spare now. Figures were lied to me but quite a few words cabinet ministers win. The virus came along the point. Being was the modeling suggested we would need thousands. More beds it to cope with this crisis and that there's no way the and it was good to able to scale up on time. Will the image has did scale up? We have the miracle of H has. Ninety-nine Hospital in London Excel Centre crazy just nine days similar L. Spills in Manchester Birmingham and Cardiff with the results that we've now got a third of intensive care beds. We've covered patients. One-third with 'em standards intensive care patients and one third three. Now this I think matches because going back to an earlier question here can the NHS cope. What was the purpose of lockdown? Is it too by the time? That's what the prime minister told us for a while. So that worked at the has been able to scale up and we're now to situation. Guessing vs heartbreaking number of deaths. Almost a thousand a day now and yet the beaches not just is not overwhelmed but it has two thousand beds free and I think this is significant because it suggests that I think Matt Hancock came as Clooney Dares saying saying the image as is not going to be overwhelmed by couvert that was threat but because of the way they've managed upscale. It's not a threat anymore. There might be more deaths. The might be a lot more deaths but if it got two thousand free. Icu units then. It doesn't look as if you're going to get anything like the scenes which we've seen in Lamberti and in some places in New York as well so that's significance and it's also going to add new focus to the discussion about the lockdown on what is purposes because if the NHTSA can cope with co victim is current and it can the other rationale of lockdown is stopping at spreading the virus now. How effective is it in doing that? Compared to for example Sweden. Which is doing social distancing but is not doing fool lockdown have. The Swedes found any worse off than the Brits have been and by Doing. Fu Lockdown and I think this will be all the more material for ministers to consider within the next week to whether to end lockdown with the being. The chess can cope. And whether it's safe to for example allow primary school children back at school. Allow some people to back at work. Allow people to at least meet their neighbors. There are various things you can do in lockdown to think without risking any chest being overrun. James. The other piece of News Matt handcuffed lived in that press. Conference is the idea that the government is working and NHS underneath contact tracing APP and this could be formed of one way of easing looked at in the future. Can you explain the idea behind her? And perhaps the privacy issues that appear to be stemming from it so the only thing is you put an APP on your phone and you will begin to report if you had the symptoms associated with Krona's and then your phone with send information to the government APP FOR GOVERNMENT APP with them blast a warning out to everyone you had come into contact with during this time to say you have been in contact with X. anonymous person who is beginning to display symptoms of corona virus. Please proceed accordingly. Now this is. The APP is being It's a similar to what they have done so successfully in South Korea in terms of trying to stem the flow of the spread of the virus. But there are obviously for over assurance government gives. There are obviously massive privacy issues about this because this involves an APP on your phone knowing who you have seen in recent times. I'm being able to send them a message to save someone they have seen over. You would have seen opie named someone they have seen is displaying symptoms of grown bars. And you do not have to be a member of Liberty to see the privacy issues with this although I think that given the lockdown and if this is a way out of lockdown I think people will probably be more prepared to make compromises on issues of personal privacy and they will be in normal times and finally phrase to end lockdown fully. He's Ministers. There's a sense of that can only ready dot org fuel rods. No modesty if there is a vaccine that was seeming charging news of the weekend with some at university involved in the heat fork rhinovirus vaccine suggesting that could be once seen as September. Usa's rights times yesterday splashed in the story that Oxford University's where he gonNa Vaccine and that professor there is eighty percent confidence that it will work with themm trials beginning in next fortnight perhaps ready as soon as September. Now this is a rare piece of good news but we have to remember that the Oxford team is not the only one trying to come up with a vaccine. I think at the moment there are something like a hundred and fifteen vaccines in the world being worked on last week for example the first of a few dozen healthy volunteers in Seattle received vaccine in safety trial sponsored by the US government. Release of other safety trials of vaccines beginning soon. The Oxford study is one of many been. None of these studies are yet clear if there is such a thing as permanent immunity to this particular corona virus. We know that immunity is relatively short. Lived for the creative irises. That are behind about third of common colds and even people who have got high levels of antibodies against these viruses can still become infected later on. So we don't even know even if you've been infected and you've developed. Antibodies naturally without a vaccine. Does this mean you get it again? There've been some studies in South Korea. I suggest you might so imma free to see that. The science behind the notion of a vaccine is still not quite clear but where? I'm a bit more. Optimistic is in finding a treatment for Kovic patients specifically with Plasma Therapy. That is taking the blood off. Infected people have patients who've recovered and giving it to patients who've got it because the patients have recovered. We'll have anti bodies which you can transfer us through plasma therapy and help this system that way now. This isn't new technology. People were doing this in one thousand nine hundred nine for the Great Sam Spanish Flu. But the plasma experiments showed a lot more promise in recent weeks so. I suspect the great medical breakthrough is more likely to come through in plasma treatment of infected covert patients furnaces image of a vaccine which could be six months twelve monks even fifteen months away but we went hopes up just yet. Thank you Fraser. Thank you James.

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Unplugged #22 - Megan Gauer and Jacob Mox

The Her Hoop Stats Podcast

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Unplugged #22 - Megan Gauer and Jacob Mox

"Hey hoops. That's fans welcome to another episode of her hoops. That's unplugged with making gower or back from a one week. Adas thanks for bearing with us on his Ben. Another interesting weekend women's basketball things heating up as we're approaching the end of the regular season. Nc double a woman's who've been marches just a month around the corner now because it is February. Lots to talk about this week. We released our top ten mid major ear player of the war. Violence Oregon disgust that as well as the big Monday. You can't Oregon game. That happened this past Monday. And the sloshing. Who in the top sixteen zied reveal so I sit? Discuss and without further ado joined this week by our hoops sets team member. Fdic MOCKS HE JACOB. How's it going to pretty good? How about you doing well Magic just released the semi finalist finalists list for our Becky Hammon mid major player of the year award this week. So that's pretty exciting excited to have becky's name on that award but you. WanNa talk a little bit about the semifinalists list of players. So the process of narrowing down from three thousand some mid major players in the country down to about like twenty that were in consideration Eventually down to the ten finalists It was a difficult process because there are so many good players that we had to let go of players who had been on previous watch lists that were there is still so good but just the bar so high among the semifinalists that there are four players averaging twenty or more points per game including Johnson. Who's the leading scorer? As of now writer she scarring about twenty five points a game but really beyond scoring just like scoring fishing. See a lot of good rebounders a lot of good playmakers on the list to just a nice variety of skills and contributions yet definitely I must imagine it must be very difficult to narrow down counter that big players to just ten names So I don't envy you for him or anyone else. Not For awards. There were crimes ride to step away from it and just like hand the players pages to someone else and have them look at them. Because I just so like inside looking at these players that like you get attached to play 'cause you see these officers statutes stuff for some wrong all now. I have to cut. I have to cut it down to just ten players. Three Thousand Yup. It's difficult at times. Good to get some outside counsel on some It's basically splitting hairs between some players where they're very similar players in the Mike. Come DOWN TO ONE. Player may be performed better in bigger games compared to the air and just kind of weighing all those different values valuing countries on the court differently. It's yeah it's it's a much trickier process than I expected in won't get easier when I cut it down to five in about so. Yeah what are you be looking for from the ten players and anyone else that might have you know just missed this list for the to make that final list of finalists. Yeah so really. What I was looking for is basically everyone on. This list is a scorer of some sort. There are a couple of volumes scores. Who should a lot of threes in sufficiency scores? Who SHOOT A lot twos? But are in the upper reaches of the nation when it comes to points for storing up there her Serrana Drake. She said once the top ten top seven ish she scoring attempt. Cr Duffy has a one point two three South Dakota and she's top five percent in the nation and is walking like seventeen point game just every night in night out just adds rebounding and assists in. Turn the ball over so really. It's just like efficiency across the board. You can sacrifice efficiency for like outrageous current numbers. But you don't WanNa swing too far where you're scoring like twenty five points for game a year only like either shooting the ball fifty tightened like kind of finding that balance at the rebounding. Assistance deals in the blocks. That kinda the roundout each other's game. Yeah definitely that makes sense. Imagi- somewhere thanks to what people are looking at for the play of the awards that I'll be coming up soon to rotate and one of the things I found. That's tricky about. It is comparing cross positions so like I know the WHO Paul they have their starting five awards the awards they give out to like the best players each physician die matching those who probably easier to look. Because you're looking at a point guards so I'm gonNA value efficient scoring and assists without showers. But if you're looking at forward you might have more at At like inside scoring rebounds and blocks So the the scales a little bit different depending on what that players role is end. Kind of having lumped onto one group definitely muddies the water over it. Oh Yeah I could imagine. It's hard to look at you know compared to players do two totally different things on the court. Leaky writing prepared the numbers so much. Yeah and there are. Players who on paper might even look very similar like you might have two players both averaging about point scoring attempts but one of them shooting fifty percent on twos in the one shooter is shooting like fifteen threes game as making like thirty percent of them. So right yeah very different kind of games even though by the numbers. Yeah so definitely difficult to down that list but it definitely seen. We've seen a lot of teams kind of posting that. They're excited to see their players on this list. So that's definitely awesome to see any thoughts kind of how teams have been interacting with the award. Especially now that Becky Hammons names on it. Yeah yeah first of all getting Coach to lend her name's the war was huge. That was very exciting She's a legend. She represents like everything about mid vader's spirit of maybe not always being seen as like the best but going out and working hard and proving that you are In terms of like team engagement with the release and all that we had much higher engagement than those fifteen season list I think we have maybe like half the teams interact either writing a release of their own or album from our content. With this time around we reach out to the teams also reached conferences and between ten teams in nine dollars is represented. Eighteen of them. Were actually like fairly engaged in either writing their own releases or pruning our content or like conferences. Like hyping up the teams content. And that's what we like to see is spreading the recommendation around making sure that these just outstanding players get the recognition that they deserve. That's definitely awesome to see the lauded names on this list that even though their status or missing you won't see on those final big player of the year awards from you know the Naismith and such so to see them get that recognition here in on to see the teams ecommerce promoting it so that they get that attention. Absolutely and yeah. We're just hoping that that enthusiasm keeps up with stuff later in the season how we can do some more like involved. Marketing of sort of I've kind of mobility of a fan vote with the final five. Because I know that the major words do stuff like that and Also the central for more like individual player like graphics and stuff to highlight each individual plants of lumping them all together into one release which. I'm excited about awesome looking forward to seeing that stuff from you as the season winedown months before we move on in the same vein. Sort of a plug for the newsletter. Which if you subscribe to the newsletter you will not miss out on any of the award updates as you'll get them earlier than a slightly slightly earlier than the public and just obviously all the other content is wrecking. Yeah definitely good thing to plug the newsletter and it's free so altered is putting your email in and then you get all of our major content straight to your inbox in so sign up. If you haven't talking some more about big things that happened this week in addition to the release of this Watch less we also had a big Monday. Game with Oregon in Yukon on the ducks were up in storrs Connecticut. For that like top-five matchup. I was actually in store so got to watch it in person. I'm assuming you probably watched it on. Tv Yeah I watched it during Ryan class and I I mean I guess. It wasn't as close as I expected to be. Ridden wasn't like a huge deal to not be a hundred percent focus towards the end of the game but even in games that close the stat. Washing is entertaining enough I'm really big into like like achievement. Stats and stuff like that stuff. That hasn't been accomplished before and one of the things. I'm always looking for in Oregon. Games is teammates with triple doubles. 'cause it's never happened for and with UNESCO evert uncivilized. They're all threats to do that at any given game mostly obviously but even have shown flashes come close and I I'm just like enthralled by like individual Teams events and that kind of takes over in games that are nearly as close as expected yet definitely and. Sabrina was almost there on an assistant. Or rebound short so yeah. Yeah one of each shoes away. And Asa Volley was six assists which it will not close. But she had two or three at halftime. Thanks so there is a chance for a while thousand. Play just going to ask you so you were there. What was the environment like kind of talked about this in the in the slack about their choice to have gambled instead of Exo so you can play their games at gampel which is on campus for people that don't know and then half an ex the exhaust which is in downtown. Hartford so about a half hour from campus. I mean I think a lot of times. Some of the bigger games are at gamble and I don't think that's an accident as someone that like went to school there and so likes to go to games as a fan occasionally like the environment and gamble is just so much better. It's a smaller arena. So you can't hold as many people as they saw center which you might have gotten Kinda for a big game like that. You could but smaller environment. You're going to have a student section which is going to be allowed They pretty much like one of the end zones as like Sections full of students from like the first row next to the core all the way to the top of the building. A huge students action. The building is just it gets really loud a lot quicker than something. Huge like the Excel Centre gets loud. So it's just a more fun. I think environment for people to kind of watch those games. Yeah I mean yeah the smaller thing. You're right it seems like it should like it. The I can't quite put it into words but like you see it on like places like assembly hall in the men's game where it's smaller end. Just it the crowd is a little more raucous People are packed in. Its at capacity. The energy just changes. Yeah totally agree with that. I don't think there is like many companies that are probably hard to play on sold out camp also near the game. What was that the end of the sixty six game winning streak? Yes in crazy like that anymore. But you had the Baylor on the end of the home winning streak and then that was the largest loss and gamble ever. Oh another endo that you construct Here but use props to Oregon obviously for point off that kind of upset in not really an upset. They should have been favored to win anyway. But that type of win get in gamble when it sold out like not pretty impressive and I believe it was their first like programs. I all time win on the road against the top five team. Yeah I think so. And then obviously program. I win over Yukon. They haven't played uconn cents. Was it I think it was he? Words Freshman Year they play it in the NC Double A. Yes bridgeport but the Oregon was just getting started thinking now obviously at the top of their game but so huge win for them on the road and then kind of I mean. I think everyone kind of knew that you can wasn't the team of yours. Pass this year but in case anyone was on the fence about that. I think they showed on Monday night. Definitely so from the results of that game which they so. The end of the selection committee are thinking selection committee releases at their top sixteen seeds Mid To late season they release them in a release them at halftime of the Games. That correct yes. It was time and it's it's interesting that they do them Because obviously like especially halftime of such a huge game that each huge implications Teams around but at the same time when also they gonNA do it. Like that's the biggest That's one of the bigger audiences. They're going to have season on a nationally televised game so like it's kind of a trade off between a safe release date and like the most impactful release state. Yeah So Yeah. They did release it at Halftime. So like take it for what it's worth at this point because obviously like aim shakes up but I think it's so you can kind of gather a lot about their thoughts of were different team stand From that kind of releasing granted thanks will shake up more. There's still plenty of big games to be played with the PAC twelve. And then you conduct South Carolina this coming Monday so in the bunch of big ten teams on there as well so lots of time for things to get shaken up much more in. It was interesting that even going into the game. They already had oregon higher than you comb which I think. A lot of people expected really looking at the resume going into the game. It makes sense based on eight people voting. I don't think that was what was really expected to me. It made sense in. Oregon has played more Harder teams even though you know lost two games versus you can just want to Baylor They've still played organ. Still play the hardest range with schedule. I think you saw that last year that the committee really does not favour. Yukon's current conference schedule which is so I don't think it was all too surprising to see that Especially knowing that their slate against coming up outside of this that Oregon won the South Carolina one is all American conference games papers. Yeah but definitely kind of to their disadvantage once. It does get to conference season because they have those one off games where they play non conference like the last one is coming one day but outside of those games like there's not a lot of potential for them to move up other than facing like a top ten team like South Carolina so right exactly The that'll change obviously next year when they're back in the big east but it's American so yeah so they were at fifth before the game. I don't know if that meet the game. Could drop them. I could see them dropping below Stanford from that loss. I don't really see them going much farther down than that. I had done dropped below Stanford amd NC state and really the reason I had them drop loans state. Nc State on one loss wants to North Carolina who is actually surprisingly ranked high on in beating. Nc State will help do that but in our group in our her which sets automated rating. They're actually twenty-seven in the nation which is like very like I did not realize how they were ranked and that's their their only loss Worst loss and then you throw in wins against Maryland whose number four in our group sets rating and Florida state number. Not and both of those were not exactly blowouts but they weren't terribly close compared to Uganda. Who was their top? Two losses are two of the best teams in the country but there by eighteen thousand sixteen. So yeah definitely bigger losses so that makes sense to me for now. At least I'm sure thinks she couple again but I think. Nc State still has to play Louisville in conference play so interesting there another thing that was surprising to me was having Maryland on the to line. Nick Got. I think four losses so far this season I mean none of them is bad losses and that Kinda surprising losses off the front like tour to northwestern is now northwestern foresee it so surprising but Yeah that was interesting to me so I sent back for the WHO feed poll. The other day Following the Organ Yukon game and I had Maryland ten at the time so just a bit outside the two line I had down. I had them just to Oregon State and the NCWA poll era. The release them slipped which I found interesting even. Yeah I think I would still have Oregon state on that to line I think that one of the I think Oregon State looks very good in the her hoops rating witch by like eight people. They aren't maybe nearly as high. So I think that depending on where you're looking when you're like comparing to resumes they you can get a different sense of how the team stack up in a fantastic. Where the the? The gap between each team is so narrow so right yeah And they do have four losses as well But their losses come to Stamford to Oregon and then one to Arizona State. So I think they're better losses in the Maryland which is why I would still have them on that to line. But yeah so I had one major Garrett without all so I have in front of me. The resumes of two teams. I'm GonNa give you just kind of a breakdown of the resume in I'm GonNa ask you who you think should be retired so we have one team that is two losses there to the thirteenth and eighty seven team in the country. They against top twenty. Five teams in the hurt website's rating our form one with their won loss being a twenty six point loss. The other team has three losses to the three nine fifty ninth ranked teams in the nation according to their upsets rating their against top twenty five teams in the rating. They our own two with losses by two and five and the worst losses is to the fifty nine three to the nation. Now just based on that who would you what. I'm putting the second one higher. Feeling the first one was Stamford actually was not wasn't okay. So the first team so I. I'm going to say that I would choose the first team which leads. Ucla and my thinking here is there. Were slots is about twenty eight spots lower than Mississippi state or else. Mississippi state was the other team. Disguise mentioned that was lost to was to West Virginia at home by Fi- by six and UCLA LOSSES USC. By two in double overtime. So what I see there is the fact that Ucla was on the road and into double overtime for them to lose. I think like I almost chalk that up as a talk in my head instead of a loss and that's fair and they also didn't have Michaela on your where in that game to date does look at that because I'm pretty sure they look at you. Know what you're actually expected to have on the floor tournaments some and superstate their strongest case really because their best Lsu who was ranked at one point but is not forty first team in the nation in our rating. Their best case is that they lost by seven points to South Carolina and Stanford. Which in my eyes. That's a very strong case but UCLA has beat four teams that are ranked higher than Mississippi's. It's best way and I think when it comes to season I think in my opinion the mindset going with his accomplishments not projecting feature games. I think many people is about projecting future games but seve lines in tournaments. I believe be based on accomplishment like otherwise playing season right. It's resume which is why the conference games and stuff matter so yeah I did make going either way on those which I guess makes sense. They're back to back so according in the voice release they have Mississippi State at ten and Ucla at eleven. I Have Mississippi State as low as twenty second in my most recent ballot which is like shockingly low compared to I think the people at eight six I just I know they played so wild and so close to South Carolina in Stanford which were road unusual games but I just to have more faith in them. I need to see one top twenty five win and that isn't there yet. That's fair. That's a fair part point for me. They kind of pass the test from watching that especially the South Carolina game. Yeah I can. I can understand that thinking and I just especially for. Ncaa tournament stuff. I just go the other way. That that's totally fair. Agreed that thoughts on kind of you know they will release the seedless but they also kind of bucket it into the four regionals any instant reactions to that so I had. I had the regions in my little sheet and I delete them because I was trying to clean up mega everything nice and nice columns and stuff in the SPEC sheets and now I don't remember what regionals each team is. It's okay I can run down them for you. Everyone listening. He doesn't remember the top of their head. Anyway so in Dallas you've got Baylor as the one Stanford as the two Gonzaga as the three in Arizona as the four in Greenville South Carolina as the one NC state as the to Ucla a three in Iowa before Portland. You've got organize one. Maryland has to Mississippi State is three into Paul at four and then Fort Wayne Is Louisville. One UCONN to Oregon State at three northwestern at four. So what? I'm hearing there. What I noticed is Maryland being out west. That almost seems like it's like a offsetting the fact that they're the last team in that seed line and maybe counteracts difference between being tuna three If they were a three they would like if they moved down. One that may get the best spot. Sirri rain so I think that that kind of evens out that. Maybe they're a little bit too high but also they travel. Relief are free to see for some reason so yeah I think you've definitely nota notice like the geography preference when you look at this because definitely not your you know best number one lined up at their lowest number two and so on but I think that's also it's partially geography and I think it's also partially that nightmare of that. There's so many big ten in so many PAC. Twelve teams in the is that they're trying to not put into the same like regionals that semes- last season when you and I were working on the rextall stuff. There were so many times where one of US would finish it up and send it to the other all. There's this conference dispute and then we'd have to fix it and then that would open up a new dispute and those those like they can't meet in the first round or if they've played in the candidate until the second round they played twice and all that weird stuff it just complicates things procedural down by bell last four in. It's surprisingly complex for anyone. Who hasn't gone in to do it themselves. You just can't you have people like asking Charlie cream questions all wired wise this year wise this team there why why is not explained so far all and if they're like a thousand moving parts involved in everything like can wind up like three different ways and they have to find one of those three ways that works basically. Yeah exactly especially with the top four seeds. I think the rule is that like they can't the top four seeds. They're from the same conference they can't meet until like the regional final so you can't have like a one in four from the conference or two or three in conference in any of these regions than you've got what four five. Pac twelve teams five teams three big ten teams and becomes a nightmare really fast. Yeah I'm not sure what they try and do if possible is to keep adding. It's no more than two teams from the same conference in one region so anyone who has eight or more than then it gets even trick air because then they have to figure out okay which is going to get the third team. Is it going to be a lower student team? And they're going get like maybe a bump that like a two or three seed isn't getting out just because the way pens or are they gonNa have to break the rules and as like a one two three. You're not it wouldn't be that but like something like that and there is a conference any of the ACC had issues with that last year. Ruffling brackets stuff where it just so many good teams that were up in the top. Four seed lines that were tricky to maneuver. Yeah exactly I think that's what it was last year now this year. It's the parents tall the APP at the big. Ten's got a handful up there too. I mean there's still a two. Acc TEAMS TO SEC team. So we're just kind of all issues all over with trying to make sure that all that stuff aligns or so. I think what a lot of people are jumping to the the locations being favorable to one team or favorable to another. It's probably more of a conference alignment in the bracket than anything else. They're kind of forced at times to make unpopular decisions because the only way the rules will allow it to happen so looking at something like people probably GonNa Complain that Yukon Snow the number two in India which is probably the best travel for them. Not Well if you put. Nc State There Than Cable Louisville's also ACC. So that's an issue you put Stanford there will than Oregon State's three so there's two pactolus teams. You put Maryland there. They've got a tuna four for the big ten. So y'all that's why he runs there and there's also rules about like the some of the top four Z. Like what is it called like the S S curve rank The for those who don't know the one line has the one two three four and those values are added up and Connor. Each region has to be balanced in a way where like the difference between like the strongest weakest conference by that measure has to be like within some range so in a perfect world. They do one two three four go with Go with eight seven six five and then onto a snake like that but because you geography and conferences they can make it work like that hardly ever. So exactly so yeah. It's they do. Try to make it as balanced as possible with all those rules. But there's still lots of roles spot conferences and stuff which makes sense to like if you're going to Stanford and plates other twice in the regular season and you play again in the conference tournament you don't really won't be playing and you know early stages the Anti Double A. Tournament or the regionals there. That's not really nice and it also comes down to turnament. Units which conference gets a certain number or a certain amount of money on like a rolling basis based on how many individual gains? They're like members plan so the ACC doesn't WanNa have two teams faced First Round because one them can advance. You split them up than everyone. Is the fair chance to advance as far as possible before meeting another team in your conference right. You're dooming one team to have one of those teams advance whereas if split them up then you have more units at play. It works for every conference and some of the mid majors and some of the like low majors mid majors that those units from like one win can like massively boost conferences budget significantly like like one every one of us made major teams goes on a roll. Everyone else in. That conference is rooted. Because that's that's money in your travel in your amenities and just all that stuff in future seasons exactly. Yeah so it's important any other initial reactions. You WanNa talk ball on the bracket that's really it. Yeah that's it for today. Thanks again for listening as always if you like what you hear on the pod class prefix share to rate subscribe and review. Wherever you're listening also if you like what you're hearing here make sure your technique on our articles our social media and the stat cy at her HOOP STATS DOT COM. Lots of great stats. They're heading into kind of the final month of the NC. Double a woman's basketball season here. 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Unplugged #20 - Megan Gauer and Aaron Barzilai

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Unplugged #20 - Megan Gauer and Aaron Barzilai

"Hey groups fans welcome to another episode of the hoops. That's unplugged podcast with my gower. It's been a crazy week in women's basketball. We had the number one the number two in the number three teams in the country losing last week bunch of upsets on the conference front and then a new WNBA CBA dropped yesterday. So lots of big things happening on the women's hoops front on so lots to talk about this week on the podcast on a bunch of big games coming up this weekend as well so things just keep staying interesting in the women's basketball world as always. We'RE GONNA kick it off reminding you. To rate like subscribe to the podcast on Wherever you're listening to US wanted to read a quick review here Encourage you all to review the podcast as wall got one from. Lca Two thousand. Four saying great podcast. If you enjoy basketball and great stories about basketball you will love this podcast so we hope some of you that listen to this also feel that way and will review Maybe next time on the PODCAST. You'll hear US reading yours but without further ADO. I'm here this week with air by. Hey Aaron how's it going out going well good to talk to you? It's been a while between we talked on the PODCAST and a few weeks and not only in real life. Either I know so. Yeah good to have you on twin. After what's been a crazy week on the women's HOOPS FRONT. I feel like let's upsets slots news on the WNBA side. So whole bunch of things to talk about. There was another one tonight riot. Oklahoma killed West. Virginia looks at seventy three to forty nine. Watch but Yes okla the West. Virginia's seventeenth th in the country. So just A yet another upset. Baylor not having quite as much trouble. Yeah no surprise there but yeah seems in a way. What's becoming the norm this season? Lots of upsets ninety nine out definitely been interesting. Yeah we are. People are listening. Probably by the time they listen this Morgan's piece on the distribution of the voting and the people should be at and it's really fascinating how there's just this wide range of INCA was a childcare lion. Baylor pretty tight. We wanted to In that order but then look through through eight. It's just like serve any longer. Being there is clearly no separation. Defec- here yeah makes sense young dot net just given the results we've seen and stuff it's really hard to separate those teams l. Who's the best 'cause you'd Never WanNa overweight one game at the same time that seems to be the biggest thing to separate some of those teams each other so definitely difficult cypher? They're thinking about before. We really dive into what was basketball. If you WANNA spend some time breaking down the jeopardy tournament and watching any of that I have not between no day job and women's Basketball Haman pretty busy so haven't really gotten a chance to watch any fun TV you know like I don't know why start watching on the weekend or something he's into it and so even though he barely knows the answers he was pretty happy. That today was okay. Rumor so That that's gotta gotTa that but Yeah the last couple of days does WATCH JEOPARDY INSTEAD OF WATCHING BASKETBALL. So you know it's only. I think two week kind of thing and even though I'm behind you know over and spoiler Ken Jennings apparently is the greatest time. Little smart actually. I'm going to be going into the Slowed sporting conference Up IN BOSTON Founded by JEREM WARRANTIES INVITES GM and Just Gelman who the president of the crash Former Harvard often. And they have a the James. Hold our and Ken Jennings speak so. That's pretty cool here. Especially because hold our guy that went bonkers last year. He is a former like Las Vegas Suppression sportscenter interesting. So definitely little connection. I tand gentle way but it is there other things are going wealth you otherwise you're busy right. He has always so definitely busy especially last week between the big game here in Connecticut and everything else going on. Who is a busy week sir? The groom talk about that and I wasn't sure what we wanted to talk about. I don't talk a little bit about your ventures Yukon xl right. Yeah so. Is that the Exhaust Air. So you convert people. Who Don't pay is about half of their games on campus at Gampel pavilion which is the on campus arena. And then half of their games in downtown Hartford which is about thirty to forty minutes from stores So yeah last. Thursday's game was downtown. Hartford at the salsa owner makes it nice and easy for me because my office building is literally right next door like I could get to the arena without going outside if I want to wasn't Minnesota or something so you just like Your Car Park Yorker whatever and exactly. That's that's like the people that work in Manhattan Park Underground authorizes for the nations institute. A parade singer. Yeah Worse Than City. I ran into our other hoop stoute's contributor Natalie at the game and she was saying how crazy parking the deal with that. Because I've been here since late thirty this morning. That's called a joint was dumped in there. It was pretty impressive. Yeah I think so. Highest Lake Women's basketball ATTENDANCE FOR THE SEASON. So fire somewhere over. Twelve thousand people which is actually not fall for the excel centre so it wasn't a sell out but still huge crowd and allowed crowd From what I heard that Kinda came through on the TV broadcast. But there's times when I almost felt like I needed your plex between the fans shouting and the PA announcing and everything. It was really loud in there. That's that's the way yeah sounds twelve thousand people. Yes you can tweet it out that. It was the largest crowd this season. I mean. It's interesting because I think that really totally could be a file for preview four Whatever and like the like eighteen thousand or more surprised it didn't One hundred percent sellout Were you or we. Do you know what the largest is for you? Yes so they have sold out the excel centre before. I think it had been like a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Game definitely would have been sold out. I think Thursday night mixed a little bit tougher But Yeah I think that it was still full in there and despite not being a sell out but yeah I think it just kind of being weekday game takes away from that being I know is it last year or two years ago. When you come played Notre Dame at Excel? It was like Saturday game. It was a sellout crowd movie battle makes. Hopefully if we get more of these Thursday night showcases That really becomes the habit right then. People will be a little more use to stay up late watching especially because I know. Espn partial fat seven to nine slot eastern so That definitely you know his a lot better than us on these. Nba Eight thirty local time. Tipoffs that are like eight. Thirty Central Mind thirty eastern so it can be too late game and a double header. Yeah you know so the one a piece of information I did Pulled that as you know we tweet it out. The I haven't seen the final final numbers but I guess the overnights I've hundred eighteen. Thousand people watched on TV and as he said it did come through and I was actually pretty pleased that You know of all the cable. Television programming That was more than any of the NCAA. Men's games that night there was a hockey game on NBC that was lower than Latin. Tnt's pre-game show was up against it Also had less Viewership in sort of total people they NBA Games. That night did amount dry but still pretty remarkable. It also reflects some of the challenges. I think why people You know it's harder to attract attention which is Interestingly it attracted more total people but less than that eighteen to forty nine demographic which I think isn't too shocking against given our perception of how best interests he used graphically definitely but that was a great game of legacy that I remember was last year a lot of the major NCA Espn game before or just blowouts but in keeping with chemotherapy. For the season you know it was it was definitely Very talk team joined the watch that one kind of showed them we've asked bodice best. Yeah I think if people just saw the final score you saw the sixteen point win but really it was the one point game until five minutes left in the fourth quarter when Beller the slaves ran away with it at the end there but really down to those last final minutes was a really close game So it's definitely good kind of done. The wire close game exciting to watch for ninety nine percent of so. What were your impressions? What'd you think of? How Good Baylor is which Nica what? Lauren Cox look like physically in person So I think you could tell that. Kaku still not back in shape. She wasn't as big of an impact in the like paying on offense as she will be. I'm Sarah Sushi is back in. Full shape has a few more games under her belt. But I think for me. The thing that stood out from Baylor is that I don't know how much of it was. Just in their game plan for Yukon and then also does Yukon disrupting their offense. But you know. Baylor is a typical player game. They play a lot in the paint score a lot in the paint. So if you told me that you can was gonna like almost out rebound them and hold them to like the second lowest point total on the on the season I would have picked you come to win it But Baylor was really able to justice. Game Plan they scored a ton of reporters accent especially in the first half So I think it just speaks to like how versatile the Baylor team is and how many different ways we can score and how many different ways. They can be basically quite the wrinkle tonight. The Ninety two forty seven in Kansas and they went eight for twenty one from deep including a lantern. Anne Cooper both Hit three threes each one. Atlanta's buffet and Cooper Three for seven. So I mean if that's going to be more and more of their arsenal and then you know. Plus I think pots decide just should hopefully get healthier and stronger of course season Looking at I don't remember the like like direct quote from the post game but Geno Auriemma said something along the lines of basically like now if they're going to be as good as they always are on the paint which they are and then on top of that you add the fact that can make you know five six three-pointers a game there nearly impossible to guard I think that's true. Really probably any team in the country. I didn't realize this I'm looking at the site and don't even have today's game in which ended but I didn't realize they're shooting forty percent from three for the season thirty nine point nine percent heading into the. Yeah exactly they should. They don't often print three but when they do they should all be there. Three hundred and fortieth around fifty one teams and the percentage of their points from three. So but I guess that's been go up or go and let's see between tonight and previously got here I know in the Yukon game dislike as where you're looking that up it was. I think they took about twenty eight twenty one threes which is nearly double their season average for three point attempts in a game So they took a lot more threes against Yukon and. It sounds like they might have done the same tonight in. It worked out on their favorite numbers at my fingertips here Taking a breakthrough from programming to report the PODCAST. But definitely something like that. Something we're looking to add to the site so yeah I mean it seems like they're really picking up adding that and I think the great teams You know certain develop over the course of the season I mean maybe not always but sign agree team and get better so Baylor look and better and better look exactly Yeah the number two in the polls. Now I've been saying it for awhile. All keep saying especially after watching them play in person. I think they're probably the best team in the country with Lauren Cox on the floor. I mean they did lose cloudy Brown but they replaced most of her minutes with Melissa Smith. Who is a different player but very athletic very tall can really do a lot for them? So they kind of feel like they haven't missed too much of a beat. Since last year's national championship team was the big twelve conference player of the week. This week I saw don't quote me. Don't quote me on that but I'm pretty sure it's all that fly on twitter on Monday. And Yeah they're number two now but I think it's pretty Likely they're going to be number one at some point over the course of the season because as you talk about last week Calvin schedule easy. They definitely got some good teams in the big twelve but that was like their last big a challenge claiming really of already played uconn. They lost the South Carolina. Right In that game rummy learn Cox not played. She didn't play it all night game. So I felt like that. One deserves an aster. Molly Category Indiana also without Cox. Which is and I think. We're a little higher on Romulo higher on them but her rating Indiana sixth so You know basically most teams in the Big Twelve Hundred Hundred Thirtieth and fiftieth countries have just outside twenty five eighty and You know it's definitely a challenge to go undefeated in conference play but is definitely sitting pretty darn fast number one nar army at her stats right in which you try and incorporate our victory. Rbi and You really control from strengthening opponents. Yes so I think they look really good Then on the U. Confident early coincide. Like if you come down with. I'm like not concerned to me. It was a lot of like first of all they were within one point with five minutes left And I feel like in the last quarter to start off. They dismissed a lot of open shots and then I mean they started taking some pretty bad shots kind of once. They got down They were just trying to throw anything up but to me. Really all game they messed. They got good looks when they messed them Which is you know it happens. It's unfortunate but I think in terms of like things that you like. Take away from that game as a concern. That's really not one of them I think I was extremely impressed. By the fact that I think in the total rebounding margin Baylor only out rebounded them by one rebound but it on a percentage basis Yukon was better on the boards of both offensively and defensively. So I think that's a huge win for them. I think you know you think of Baylor as those big time size rebounding team so to come away with good rebounding margin there is definitely A good thing for the huskies and then also I thought their defense is good. I mean to hold Baylor to their second lowest total of points on the paint on the season another like salt things so things that I would have been most concerned about from a UK perspective. Going into this one. They actually did well On. Yeah yeah they were a little bit on the slower pace side but D- offensive rating their or a hundred seven points per possession. So it was interesting is is Seton Hall scored more earlier this season for them but against Yukon. Sorry but still limits for efficiently. And let's see where are the thing that was though as you said Well has basically their lowest offense efficiency for the season so that was a a are empty. No they were actually decent off offensive efficiency so I think the ball is lower points. Wasn't missile defense. I think the main question I had for you is like how you feel about Nelson Sort of interesting that you know she was sort of. We're not talking right but you know she sort of a woman in the middle and didn't really thrive in that particular game and you know since she's young and growing hopefully will learn from that. But you know didn't turn to make it look like a bit of a weakness. Expose that we. Yeah so I think that was a concern for them. Definitely You know kind of. She didn't really contribute. Anything on the offensive end. She couldn't finish over Cox and then On the defensive end not a great night for her either. She really struggled all over the floor. look queered not many not. Many people can't for this over concerts. Yeah exactly yeah that was going to be kind of my next point is like yes you struggled to. Do you really think that. There's a tougher test in any way they play. Baylor as like someone another team center. Probably not in my opinion so yes. It's concerning that she didn't really do much but I think one she's Young Yours. Probably a lot of pressure on her that she's not used to having put on her for this game Just because everyone going into this one it was a lot of talk about the battle in the post and of course for you can. That's her And then also I just think that when you look at a lot of other top teams in the country it's not gonna be as tight of a better Hardwood battle inside as it is against Baylor so If you can get a little bit more from her in any other match up there probably in better shape And obviously a good learnings. We asked to play probably the toughest inside defense at this point in the season. She's got two months to kind of figure out how to be better going forward right right so think about their upcoming schedule. Two months though right I think less than a month until they play South Carolina. So yeah so that's another. I was saying like two months until March but I'm trying to think who else. They're blamed thunder scheduled. The Um you know also had strong fix test them. I mean you've gotTa Oregon but Ruthie read. I think is a little bit. I mean. She's a strong big but not in the sense of like a Baylor South Carolina Inside President so. I think that'll be a little bit more equal matchup and the other big non conference game right. Is that Tennessee? Game tickets which is size but yeah so I guess is the twenty third which is also a Thursday right so hard for that on TV last time. So that's yeah to me right like I think it's fair. There's no gal and you know I was like talk about this. When we're thinking about are like the urging of top twenty five and I'm always encouraging might it's like who would win an attending series or something right Definitely not Baylor You zero internally. Close game there were definitely moments on eight. Remind me they got almost. I believe the first half of that right. At the end of the first quarter it was close at the end of the half. I think they might have been down slightly at the half and then even like literally with the I think. Five minutes left in the fourth quarter. They were only down by one so it was kind of just fell apart for them at the end there but they were really in all the way through the remainder are destroyed. Asthma minima crowded behind a tough atmosphere but just couldn't quite get over the Hump and then they let go of the rope as I say Yam. But it'll be good to see you excited for for the rest of Yukon season. And you know it's going to be really impressive impressive tournament where we're GonNa see feeling last year in Elite eight kind of felt that like three of the Games were pretty clear forget the Oregon Stanford or in the it was like three of the Games. Were up in the air and then the Baylor I wanNA thank you Kinda knew Baylor Baylor but then ours guys probably more confident. I think three's Schuman's wins and was going to be the way you know on the day off or what you know the before before so But yeah I have a sense of like if we get you know the top ten teams in you know. It's going to be anyone's ballgame. Now this is just the way things that are going to come mark like usually with the women's tournament you're Kinda like Yelich. You know the top ten teams. Who's going to be in the elite eight on not confident that that will happen this year. I won't be as surprised if you know someone gets upset early on Could Make for interesting. Some of the Non Jewish whole teams are in the top twenty five so definitely a chance for some new names in sweet sixteen till Nice so and that is a good chance to plug. That will be at the time for. So yes you are listening and planning on being there yourself. He's definitely draw the line with us. Now we're definitely thinking about how what sorts of things where can do our there but we certainly want to meet up with people that are following us and gets no over more of a nation. Dude I say about probably yeah. Probably a twitter bolted as to A podcast fell mentioned him later But the no John's INC folks which of those former starters as home starters my rush on an ATV and they were you know whatever reason We Ellison obsessed with Kombucha and today apparently is national Khumbu today And so it's only the second one. They were debating what you get free advertising on the calendar trying to think about what we should make national day lot of choices. Choices could be Monday when they announced the savings right because Monday afternoon right now and I think that might be a good option. Many others as well yeah. I think it's technically Monday night accidental Monday afternoon. Last year they were they were going out. Four or five Outta. Yeah but they got leaked early last year. That was the let's Jump ahead and then we'll jump back what did you think about the WNBA? Anson happening suddenly on Good Morning America. Or whatever yeah. I thought it was awesome. That they did. It aren't good morning. America less awesome that it was like totally like out of the blue. You'd narrows coming I feel like for me like I like was like logging onto work and then I was like. Oh what is happening? Like my phone's blowing up and then it was Kinda like. Oh let's fixing is going on but I do think though that the like the publicity of being announced on Good Morning America was awesome and it probably fits our demographics. We're talking about. I don't personally know anyone that watches good morning America but I'm trying to think about what the other options and to your point. I think that definitely it would have been nice. The Third Panel H. He got news look too good morning America. I think forty nine and eight forty five pm before like I think. Atanasie may time for and it wouldn't mean we all knew. The extension was the fifteenth. So which is today right? So like it's not that copying thirty something a heads up on that right and so but you know prepared to you. Good Morning America versus putting on the jump where definitely the announced all stars on that or something Ordering game or even on sportscenter and a time learning kind of spot I gotta believe Good Morning. America does actually have more to yours So they're not people that I yeah. I think that what am I good. I think you would have got a lot of people that are like. Hey I'll definitely tune into this. Had they known include US many people with money down for freezing of eggs? I forget what the proper scientific for site ration- me wasn't impasse. Getting back to college basketball so I was thinking time. Baylor was huge game but immediately. It wasn't perhaps not even the things news college basketball because Arizona state I think is off the charts those crazy weekend for them. They had both Oregon's at home. Both Oregon's Ron Lincoln airs on a road trip. This weekend so played on opposite days. I think Friday Oregon State and then Oregon's state was at Arizona and then vice versa. On Sundays Palo Alto Oregon. Hey I wasn't sure what Jerry whether you're east coast bias. Well you could Yukon Oregon. Yes they have The Washington schools weekend but actually I mean Oregon State and Oregon so macho pointing this weekend but then they play each other. They've got that back to back to back on the twenty four and twenty six next weekend There A to civil war civil war ones or to guess I don't know from. They've got big ones this weekend to because Stanford's on Oregon chip this weekend so I forget whose Friday and who's Sat Sunday or whatever it is this weekend but Stanford's visiting them both this weekend's of big ones and then after the civil wars they Southern Cal than they have. Ucla and they're going back to the rugged Arizona state government to them via on believable and ain't realized that Stanford is last confused myself but yes state crazy and it's GonNa be fascinating to see if they can sustain that. I think I would expect them at home. Washington in Washington state this weekend to be able to influence winds. Yes so definitely crazy from Arizona state I think probably the not the Arizona school that people would have picked to upset either team but no one that got it done so pretty crazy weekend Arizona Games work tight too but they oregon teams one on those ones but Yeah I thought the most interesting one was probably Oregon State. I didn't get a chance to watch it yet but was like watching the box score on Sunday. Sunday Ya Sunday. In the first quarter was just so law low scoring and think it was like four to fourteen or something crazy at the end of the first quarter so definitely different from what he usually from Oregon State. Obviously who is undefeated going into that one? It was like coming back to. You wasn't gonNA see like a down quite a bit and then they you know given the score and then a pretty surprised. When I saw that they won so I think that was the Oregon one so when they played Oregon they were down quite a bit and then I came back in the fourth quarter the fourth quarter Arizona state outscored Oregon thirty to fourteen but Arizona. State also actually had the lead pretty much the whole time in the Oregon State game. I'm sure but interestingly Jacob You know participates in the top twenty five and it's pretty I plan. I was pretty surprised that he actually did not include them in his top. Twenty five figured would be controversial. Then I was looking into it. And you know what seems reasonable at at Morgan's He's gone tomorrow. Her analysis of the votes and two eight voters also did not have them. The top twenty five and one had them twenty fifth. Arizona State is twenty fifth in the hurry ratings. Well so I think they're definitely right on. The cusp of that is amazing. Amazing wins but then they also lost to purdue By seven to two fifty nine and by fourteen to Minnesota that was at Minnesota. But still so you know it's interesting question to really get so so that we are always debating that's why we have that compare team resume tool around you. Know what do you think of Arizona State? Yeah I think they're probably like like you said kind of borderline top twenty five people. Obviously recency bias. Really excited about these two wins. But you have to happen at the beginning of the season tail and on they also impact twelve play have to says already as well Not Bad losses just at home to Arizona and at UCLA so by no means bad losses but still losses impact twelve. I think in terms of like where they really stand. They've got I mean plenty of chances to prove themselves or Kinda of show that they are where we have them now based on how they play out in the rest of this. Pactel's scheduled the beauty of the pack twelve. There's so many big games So plenty of chances to kind of really show where they are at more and more with plenty of chances but they're just put a division. I noticed that indefinite don't WanNa facetime. Early in agreed agreed. So yeah I think they moved up real of quite a bit in the espn w bracket Haji this week with those winds though up to like five seed Interesting we'll say it now because then it'll make me do it. We'll have our brackets. Algae at least the top sixty and see. It's coming out a near future. So did you get a chance to tally? Up the votes for our ear picks against Kalamazoo. Yeah we were too too. I think we went the same way on the Oregon State Arizona Arizona State the Arizona game. We both had Oregon State winning that which they did. And then I had the Baylor one and he had the Missouri State over drake so to do so tied so we'll have to do some at the end of the Swanson. Megan the field still tied. Yep across among as you know. I've been working on some tweaks to our own paged to make it more appealing. Come visit the site hoping we'll be able to is that fairly soon but I always say to always takes longer than I would like. I can at least call up some. He Games this week. So let's see. What should we pick it's Through the nineteenth so there is the airport Oregon State Steamboat Oregon guesses on Friday. And we could also try and pick Florida state. Nc State. You can't pick for four games and you have a chance to pick three last week. But then we picked the same one SAM's so all right so you're saying the to Oregon road trip to Stanford and then Florida state. Nc state I'm going Oregon's going to beat Stanford but Stanford will be Oregon State and then ongoing with Florida state over NC state. I think kids ought to so good when Song. Pick Florida state and that one okay. I think that I don't know the opposite. Just make it interesting. Pick STAMP IS GONNA be fascinating to see how organisms respond to this past weekend but I think that As much as a Stanford homer as I am since I went to Grad school there. I'll pick them actually beat Oregon's starting to beat Oregon but for Oregon State to be Sanford and then kneels notable fact state. Right definitely like them. They've been consistently good one of our almost laugh under the team so that will be a game and NC states home on Friday night right so there you go write it down you can tweet about him after gains and so people are live updates. Come and take it for curing carrying my wait for the field there. Yeah so by the time we recorded an episode next week there on the field will have the advantage the big games this weekend in the PAC twelve there with the organs versus Stanford's kind of you know what people are I actually don't think is the top three teams limp. I taught by ranking lake. Rin loss record right now but what people would identify as the top three teams in the PAC twelve kind of playing each other so big games and then civil war next weekend so more games. Yeah no I really speaks the importance of seeding right in the PAC whole tournament concert. Yup nothing going through Ya. I'm still sticking with my. Ucla's GonNa win the pelvic season still viable option. Now we're GONNA keep. I appreciate your DEEPA and help us come to herbs. That's four I think right so yeah who's left on. Ucla's schedule hear him now. They still got. You know the Arizona's on the road so that ROAD TRIPS. GonNa be a tough one. But the big. You know thing with their schedules. They only play Stanford Oregon and Oregon State once each. So kind of. Don't have to play to those teams twice. Which gives them a definite advantage Yeah they started to play them all but but only one three games against the presumably top ten in the next two months. That's right but none of those toll February I think at Stanford I but then both Oregon. Games are at home also organs on Valentine's Day. Yes it is. I'm actually trying to get out there for that. So hopefully it's GonNa work out. That would be awesome reporting live to us from Oregon. Yeah do you have any before we switch over the w. Nba Tailing Mattel from being inside the arena freaking villa? Nothing too much trying to think. If you haven't watched him mulcahy's prosser go watch it. 'cause she's just reading here for that live. Yeah watching. I don't even know it was like search effort. Current asked her a question about you know them taking threes versus their usual inside style play. She kind of went on a tangent about them being old school. Some country music. If you haven't watched it you should go watch the video. It's hysterical. Basically led sports ended outstanding. What they went and got a cooper sitting next to her looking lake know the daughters. So it's pretty funny so cool okay. Well let's jump to the WNBA CBS. You mentioned that little bit. Imagine there were definitely. One of my goals was frustrating. You'd have become great source of information kind of breaking down BA for. Everybody unfortunately can't really do that as it's not actually detail rate the public so. I guess I've got some questions into the media folks there at meteorologist at the WNBA office off. We will hear back from them soon. Because I think broadly speaking in general so many great pieces about it I think. Lindsay gives for powerplays. Something about ashes. Maybe going to be a little skeptical and I think it's certainly fair to have questions. I think that's one thing people complain about with basketball media coverage to fawning and going to ask the tough questions about the domestic violence or or or whatnot but You know the same time. I think it's definitely yesterday's clearly celebration. Honest with all sides tunes positive and you know that it was you know for meeting so many extensions whatever that was clearly amicable kind of definitely. I've made the all the reactions to it yesterday. We're pretty positive so from the players especially so that was definitely positive thing to say and At like some tweet where we mentioned the change. Makers I think that change makers programs going to be You know really really important and I don't think it's you know it's such an interesting question right about like what. Kinda covered. You want covered. I'm a firm believer that you know you wanna have a big tent and brings many people as possible to cover it and you know. Certainly I don't mean necessarily the validation of the media but I think the positive indicators like you know much of woved definitely I tweeted about it and additionally expect any like return. The COLSON Shelbourne So ineffectual qualifies meetings well the so in her dual role there. But I think there's a lot of positive interest positive indicators in the interests of water NBA. About Tom's Miller and his Good morning it's basket bones. That are today you know. Let's really main focus on. He's been a great supporter of vessel also on time. But even the podcast. I mentioned note. I think they're they're hilarious and coming NBA but they spent time You know not outshine but it's not a little bit of time talking about CB basketball and how they've it's been. I'm definitely still kind of coming at it from NBA but nevertheless it's Makita seeing more and more coverage and just that's at the loan addition to the change the WNBA CBA. Yeah I definitely think going back to the change makers program to it. Sounds like a lot of the kind of increases the player compensation the suffer being funded by those companies that are investing in the W. definitely positive. Engelbert was definitely very quick. I forgot it wasn't someone asked that question and I got there. Were so many questions. I you know trying to decide that question. That probably paused five seconds before I dialed in to get in the queue and like there was maybe an hour questions I still WanNa make it to the question Personally just finding but Also again just positive how much he was on there including some folks. They clearly weren't plenty of the usual suspects either. He would hopefully on Paul but also you people that words you know in a negative sense pershing third there so a lot of questions and one of them was about that and I think they said something like each owner ship group can contribute. A million dollars isn't investment. It's all part of that. Women could have that wrong need to you. Know they're gonNA so many great show. Vogel's fibers how medals only so but they were trying to be very clear. It's the money not all coming from the change makers and but also a saw. Doug tweet out. Let'S NOT MONEY. Was there before they can magically holding back all this time and now the white okay finally will give it to you Definitely County on. I think the more call snap. The goal of you is my. Where is this money coming from? How much is agreed to You know you might think if they're being cautious that they're willing to fund this you know basically thirty percent. I WANNA say one third increase in salary cap and as well as like Mac salaries and whom salaries you know. That's sort of guaranteed money. So that probably is largely coming from a combination of this investment of the owners and particularly the change makers he got us. Think that's Diabolo I think all the change makers were involved as Monte Pres. Yeah I think the war all involved. At and T. was some delay. Obviously was cathy. Engelbert tie there. Obviously and then Nike as well. Yeah so you know it's interesting question right of you were Michener or the you know I think the Wnba Pete W. N. Jackson Neka Committee. The you know want to have you know you want more money. But he recognizes growing pie. You know it's not in your interest to have you know all pointing money. And then not leave at Ankara so a realistic. I'm sure they're being pretty cautious and willing to commit to this jump now that they feel like this is a signed contract for an extended term supposed to like going in the right now and you know I mean. They're betting on winning but I don't know that they're saying will lose a bunch of money now to come out ahead and twenty twenty six. That just seems little. That would be my choice if I was commissioner. And that's reflected in the fact that it's giant increase now but They also said it's only gonNA percent increase in the salary cap Going forward which I mean not the most aggressive assumption there so it's really interesting how they came up with that Because is less than the NBA. Had some really funny things. We talked about a little bit but You know broadly speaking. That's not a tremendous growth rate so it seemed cheerful. I did see some reference to. Wnba is pretty competent especially for revenue. Sharing will be hit so it's better than kind of someone coming in making pie. This guy promises about how much money could earn. Twenty twenty two and not come to fruition when you know when you get that breast yeah. I think that revenue sharing thing is kind of one thing that might be a little bit more clearance. We see a full lake. Cpa consumes vague for now like A lot of it has burst and surrounding the fight the NBA gets that the percent of revenue to the players and looks like there's potential Theresa and the new CBA for the WNBA but it's based on achieving growth rates and has been a less specific at least that I've seen around that part of it yet. Yeah I mean I've always said I'm not sure that I guess just because it's the right number for the NBA. I don't know that's the right number for the. Wb is not the same number for all the major Germans these. That's for sure and you know to me. I was with serve more automated. You think it has to be a function of You know revenue and Really Prophet. And you know. I think it's smart Tyler together but the strikes me the W. NBA's fixed costs have to be a higher. I'm guessing a higher percentage of revenue than MBA's and so as a result in a world where positions isn't quite the right number so yeah there's a ton of questions particular. How does that one question I about the August House that where is it? A binary where. It's like twenty five percents. They make some targeted fifty percents. Donors some kind of sliding scale so it could be anywhere between twenty five percent in our questions about an applied. The same kind of escrow system. Nba does trump familiar with. And you know it's really complicated and you know one thing. I'm pretty interested here about what lessons they tried to learn not just previous WNBA CPA's agreements or CBS's but Also like other lease was the NBA or NFL imagery baseball and less on the other major. Wensley Sean to work because you know the NBA particular had all kinds of craziness with their rules because they had this giant spike and revenue signed airway TVD with ABC. And turn and so like what's going to happen if you know as we all hope slash expect you know. Wnba really can aggressively grow. It's broadcast revenue signs deal double their broadcasts. Revenue in Twenty Twenty. Three year deals admission. Find out and so if salary cap going up at like three percent of the MAC salaries go up three percent and revenues. Going up ten percent. Like what's GonNa Happen there? How are they GONNA get it back with scaler contract up so on earth? Yeah it's kind of interesting to see a little outlets more details to the whole Kevin Durant call situation where because the cap spike happened to be when the free agent that was I. We gotTA talk to Golden State and first place so that was sort of an unforeseen circumstances. Yes something similar with a super team forming the question. Which I haven't heard is you know there are the players on a Max contract today. Ns salaries going up. If you're signed to Matt Salary Contract scale you or your you know if you were gonNA earn how two hundred fifty thousand dollars a year already at the CAP is now higher. You still learning hundred fifteen because you're under contract but now someone who's afraid of China new contract that potentially get that two hundred fifteen base salary so there's a whole host of on answer questions and listen. I don't really look forward to so and you know folks out there interested in helping us do that. Definitely dropbox draw the line at podcast at her stats dot com or something to meet Erin Barzilai Kambas. Lot harder snow and we're always interested. People are willing to contribute. Yeah definitely saying what do you think are you did you? Did you find it? It's a positive thing Saria. Or what were your general reaction to what you read. What clicked you saw that? Yeah I mean it's definitely positive thing thinks when the other positives for you know. Some of the lake travel improvements that they're I think allowing not requiring every implies the economy plus type thing instead of just economy which I can imagine what I'm only five eight and sometimes there's not enough legroom regular seat so ethic travelling in regular economy. It's gotta be rough But so I think that was an improvement. Kind of some of the travel Changes and that. Obviously the players are making more money like there is an increase in salary. Of course when you look at it and you start looking at the NBA salaries and stuff. It's nothing crazy like that. But like you said kind of a factor of revenue and things like that but definitely a step in the right direction so definitely good to see you know who the travel's interesting. I was Kinda wondering whether schedules coming out. Really pile up by timeless people synthesis. Coming up tomorrow. Thursday tomorrow to cordless since it's Sunday night and so like one question I have. Is You know the other thing that can sort of help with the travel on the Internet as much about thunderstorms but like would they have put in any rules about scheduling to China void. Say Back and things like that and really kind of Make some rulers at something that maybe they all just don't work out on the side about a formal agree with Mrs May on that sort of the NBA. Really ratcheting down the mode of their schedule eliminating like a three to four nights and forty five nights I don't specifically in the UK but They're working together to to think about. We used to just the schedule. Because I think there's lots of opportunity there more interest vice enjoying smarten and then the other one other question hoping we'll talk. Some players is actually. I'm entering a couple of things I so Kushner and Gilbert really stressed this idea that the revenue will compensation is going to be. Total has compensate cash compensation as not just GonNa be the salaries of players that they signed for two hundred. Fifty thousand dollars is whatever it is but also the prize pool these league and marketing agreements but Oh yeah the competitions. While we've been so over forms box so my question is I wasn't clear on the benefits that they're talking about health and wellness contrition investing in player for after we after their plannings developing them personally professionally but whether that investment is going to be part of the weapon split. I don't think so but I wanted to touch with the tech to confirm that investment going to be above and beyond. I'm or whether you know the money from a housing site pan sauce is going to be part of a new sport. And then is is either way really. We ultimately all excited so I'm really fascinated. Understand how the players think about that trade off but would they rather have central corporate housing court? Just get a check of your thoughtful for finding has themselves and I would really want per person. Yeah I don't know what do you think about the season though it's the WNBA seasons like four months so pretty hard to find your own housing for four months to save. These players are than like going abroad living someplace else for the rest of the year But definitely kind of interesting to think about what their opinions on. That would be What you reminded me you know somebody. People talk at their per diem right. What if you could use a silver Birch Religious you total have a model. Whatever centrally real estate agent type people they connect with and say. Oh you now. You're coming into Seattle. Your Birth Really Helps Players Find Plaza. And but you know you you know we wrote you a check in you know instead of being two hundred fifteen thousand dollars. It's two hundred twenty five thousand dollars. You're being a high-rise or you know get a small place in suburban Washington wanted it especially with the arena situation. So yeah lots of questions before doing in this exciting it was exciting to see the WNBA and breakthrough years. It'll be interesting to see how much in polar really following as where you know. Now I think free agency gets off on that rehearsed and so interesting to see whether people are able to track of that and yeah it's difficult so much going on at once. I feel like the just general like the women's world there seems to be more overlap between like the media for Wnba in college than there is in like the men's world so it's hard to keep track of everything and it's really a function of you know people that drive to follow both men's college and pro basketball but it's so hard you do both simultaneously right whereas it's like a radically feasible home. Created that for women but you know the classic sort of best involvement or stops. You know much to know a lot of family sugar. So it's hard for you know we're talking about four handsome we're having our spring break for my wife and our kids and you know and then come back and I don't think they've announced. Wmu Draft East challenge so definitely. Yeah all positive right and I think it is cool the opportunities that are out there. We've talked about that before and just the ability you know asked all While I wouldn't exactly yeah while while things are still growing. You're still plenty of room for a lot of voices. There's a lot of need for people whether it's contributing or doing or some other independent Allah certainly more often. Did one definite exciting type of definitely lots Cayenne or citing but it is also meets here and free. It's easy to kind of come on and spew my random on all Marin we might you're going to do the heavy lifting right of time making sure that years polished and all my love's releasing appreciates approaching to wrap it up out. 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Jillass: The All Female Jackass - #614

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Jillass: The All Female Jackass - #614

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The airlines are hurting right now with less travel going on but they were gonNA take six point five billion dollars out of their frequent flyer program and use it to keep the airline operating for now it's like are you just moving money from one pocket to another to know how to? Keep the airline afloat. What? What's the money spent on in the frequent? Flyer program. Resulting cut damn. Delta Airlines. I told entirely know what the logistics of that are, but it sounds like just attracted drop between bank accounts. Will use frequent flyer program toback six point five, billion dollars in debt. I had this amount of my checking account listened my. But. It's like van Mo-. It's like, do you want it in three days that's free but if you want now, that'll be seventeen. They're gonNA take action fees convenience. Six point five billion dollar loans and use. Collect used their frequent flyer program as collateral. I guess I. Don't understand how the actual money. 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Till, you make it Kinda. Like nobody knows what we're doing. That's like how Enron and pyramid schemes and made off and all that stuff happens. Right? It's like you just like we don't know. Whether the people sometimes who are committing fraud don't know that they're committing. Every but no one wants to sound stupid or accusatory. So no one asks. Episode of the office where they combine the branches and Stanley keeps asking the New People. The ones like one of the new people have been to jail for like financial fraud or something and Stanley keeps asking the new guy what do you went to prison for and then there's like that one on one interview standards. I keep asking him because what you went to prison for sounds like what I do every day at my own. Such a good line. Oh my God. But also true. So. fucking raccoons they're back. You've got an issue I've got raccoons again. Remember we had that RTA forever ago about raccoons on backyard. Eating my grease trap. They're back and they're hanging out with the kids call it these days. My wet ask grease trap. It's W. F.. Just hanging out I had to go out and yell at them look at them those Fat Fox. I mean what they're doing who they look at. The bring rain. But they're not. A. There forever. They weren't moving. I was flashing my lights at them I was like. That's so cute. Because of the resolution, it looks like a painting like it looks. Like Norman, Rockwell's after dark series or something. I. Love Them. Out of all the pictures to. Story Book I feel like they should be lookin' aeration courtesy of Costco Okay here we go. It was a Saturday evening and the raccoons have nowhere to go. Lethargic from lack of food and heat one of them sat up and exclaimed, we should go eat gus, his grease trap. Then then they decided. was. Down there. Records. I think I think there are amazing I think he should do you think if you put up a failure. Do you think it would. Deter, the real living records. Now I mean, look at them they were hanging out together. I, mean, they know each other that? I would. I would think that it would deter cats but there's cats everywhere around here now. I think it's an issue in. A tweet recently that said that Animals, the UNCANNY valley doesn't work animals. What does it? Get creeped out by something that kind of looks like them. Which means that there's something in. My life broke. There's something own evolution that is like hard coded in our DNA to be suspicious of stuff that looks kind of like us but it doesn't exist in the animal kingdom and that all aid no scary Dixie read edit tweet. This is not back Bay at side to I've read apart from this what three but I thought it was an interesting thought that animals will just hang out next fake versions themselves as if they're real. It said shame that raccoons are shed because they're so cute and. adorable. They make fun pets but. I didn't want I didn't want them around. So I didn't want them to be out there like when I take my dogs out or. To. Dig Up my yard because which they are fucking doing nonstop as well. The last hole. Talk About Your Yard Zero Scape. But then. As I. Say striking he did it because if not. No. I'm just I'm just over those fucking raccoons and the cats and although stupid animals. Going around my house. So you need a stuffed raccoon out there like a pack of cigarettes and Leather Jacket I'm like a motorcycle real bad boy raccoon and then they'll be scared off. I guess that makes sense when. Some they sell. Like. What are they like almost like? Fake deal that you can put out to make other deerfield more at ease you see those Seem. Like. They're putting people or like fake people in restaurants to make other people feel better like we talked about before. But we have uncanny like we're we're freaked out by the UNCANNY valley so it doesn't quite work for us. We just think it's weird. Yeah Or comforting depending on who you talk to I. think that's comforting. It's just weird. That all Dominicans and all the fucking stupid ass cardboard cutouts at Baseball Games. Yeah. I wonder if that actually makes a difference for the players because that's that's four centrally right it's for the players to feel like there's an audience there and to play to crowd. But I think they might also be further television viewer to make it not look. So dystopia N- to. Own just like this is better. Can you apply to get yourself in the crowds of games? Can you send yourself? Yeah. You can do that for the NBA for sure. Yeah. Yeah we'll put screens up and so you basically can broadcast your like Webcam onto the screens they have in the stands so and I think it creates like a it's an animated Gif like. So you can like record like six seconds or something or whatever, and then it just kind of like repeat that on the screens center in the stands. So success seconds. They should call him vine. I don't know I don't know how long the. Loop is. Privately probably, not she probably not long enough to get away with. Anything to like to be like cutting up probably couldn't do. Do, a bit. Make, me dissection bit by by. Vines we used to script out vines and make a whole series of 'em. Before I'm sure you could come up with something clever for it. You could probably a bit. Of a pain in the Dick whole to make him to shoot in order. Line happened like editing tools on it whatsoever. I feel like we did all those when vine was not easy to use, and then the students we stopped it got super simple to do that kind of not really difficult to use again. Yeah. They made it much harder. Finan-. I remember I. Remember when I went to an arts high school in San, Antonio. For for film and Remember editing on to VCR's like that's where I started my my video editing. Career I guess you could say is just having a jog shuttle in two VCR's and doing like the play play pause play pods record. and. Then we finally then we finally got like non linear non linear editors and I remember it was such a boneheaded waste of money because we bought these dedicated. By the way, editing computers existed like you could get premier. But we bought these dedicated. They were called Avocados these like Sony obvio-, dedicated like non linear editing machines that cost like five grand apiece and the only edited when you could get like a computer for half that that had premiere on it I don't know why. I do not know because because. School district's love wasting money and not spending it on the right thing. Sick no notes get us a couple of computers. Arab I did I took like some media costs at school and? For some of our coursework work we had to make. A film at the end. And the only we had like computers all around the room. There was probably like twenty computers in the room, but there will. Computers without any edits yourself for the only editing computer was. It was like it was an Imac wherever mackey was whereas a dome and then a monitor stuck out. Remember when. I'm accurate. Was it was one of the Ex and it had final cut on it and no one in the entire school knew how to use it and it sat there my entire school career and I didn't ever see anyone touch it because none of the teachers. Had any access to like teaching materials on that stuff. One of the school janitors used it late at night. Got His degree through that. Yeah. Another like colossal scale waste of buddy. Cheap at the time. A. Funny Andrew you talk about editing on onto VCR's was in high school I would do the same thing I hated doing school projects. So I would always ask instead of writing a paper I turned into video on that because I had a vhs camcorder and editing with that CR. So would films with my friends all the time and then use like the camcorder and the VCR plugged in together to dislike edit. Together really stupid things. It would take like an hour or two instead of having to write a paper. But because not because this is like a ninety five and ninety, ninety, four, hundred, ninety, six when I did it like but since nobody knew how to do that back then everyone thought it took way more time and it was really difficult like it's going to bang this out in an hour you'll be done. No Yeah, you're you're a magician. You're a scientist in medieval times like all you did was like mixed to chemicals together and it like like created a puff of smoke and everyone was like. Oh, my Gosh Jeez Louise. We had a special effect once where we had. Disappeared the shot it was just my friend was holding it then I positive recording. He didn't move another friend came and took it out of his hands kept recording. So it just looks like. Out of his hand afterward, everyone including the teachers like how did you do that? That was amazing. Older brother used to do that all the time with our home camcorder we used to take it and phil home videos all the time and we'd be like, okay, got the shot setup. All right. Stop Recording. All right now move out of frame now start recording again and every single video without fail would be me behind the camera going. Stephen where did you go? Seizing. Gust you remember that that you showed that video of a train headed right toward the class everyone ran out of the class. Sort of feels like feels like it was actually really difficult to edit that way like I. I'd like a high video camera with the VCR, but then in between I had this. Thing it was like you would sit in front of your TV and add sliders and you could pluck music into it and me and my friends would shoot some stuff and we'd be like four minutes into our tape. We've got forty minutes of content which probably took a several hours to do, and then I would have him like trying to up the music as I press on the on the camcorder as we put on tape but he would like play their own track it'd be like. Eighty we try skip backwards, but it would just restart the wrong track and then it'd be like double tap. Because we be so far into the tape. rewind like overwrite the previous pilots eight. We would just leave it. So that'd be like. Editing errors through. Let's. Got Somewhere. Some point. Yeah, I wish I could find my old high school for just like the one I'm talking about I know they've got exists somewhere. I have no idea where I need to go back home and all the Mile Shit and find it. So many videos with my friends like from the. Early two thousands kind of era where we just make these really dumb videos I I would pay good money to be able to find it and watch that stuff because you don't have them anymore. I haven't been able to find them every time I go home I try to look for it and I. It's just like it's disappeared from the light of day I have no idea where could have gone but they were filmed on like those little mini cassette tapes. Yeah Yeah Oh I have, i. have a garbage bag full not a garbage bag but. Huge huge bag of many DVD's because it's the same thing. In high school at that like arts high school. And my friend Matt made tons a little video. We made like three four, hundred, four feature length movies in high school One of which was like three hours we were so dumb we didn't know what the hell just making the and those are like are like you know bigger forays, but then we have like. Smaller just really really silly A. Shorter. Sketches I guess you could call them and the lower my God, the Lord Lord just like, and then we just brands was not to put them or show them. Redo. Than ever we're going to go anywhere me and my friend Brittany used to make. Videos all the time you guys might remember Brittany. She blonder on the website when I was blondie. She created her account after me and we essentially wanted to do videos and blonde productions. So dumb. But. The genius idea to do a series of videos called. Jill. s instead of Jackass. 'cause we wanted to do like the female jackass. Like such idiots around our city like doing stupid things and wearing stupid costumes and it's like who the fuck would ever want to see this or. Want to see it nine. Rate. For us you just didn't know. and. We'll. Now I'm glad I don't know where they are. This. PODCAST is brought to you by indies. We saw one leaf fall on the ground today. I can mean only one thing fall is finally coming. It's time to get your booties ready for the spookiest time of the year with the softest undies decrease your bottom I'm sorry about the Pun. indies he's knows exactly how to celebrate the season with the coolest prints and colors and the softest undies known to man. 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That's me Andy's dot com slash rush teeth for fifty percent of your first order free shipping and one hundred percent satisfaction guarantee. Absolutely, I I went through digitize all of my hi eight tapes like my eight mill. Tapes. So the same format. But I still a ton of money but I don't have the camera that I shot it all on and it's like surprisingly difficult just to get like a mini DVD player. Like I'm not sure how to go about. Playing those back and capturing them. Can You? Buy Off of Ebay. I mean I was looking at some like. Decks. But they like four grand and stuff still for some reason not we're all. Going to Gavin I still have in my closet I have a cannon xl one that plays many. DVD's shapes if you WANNA borrow it to digitize some of your old mini DVD's. You'll rental fee on that. Oh Gratis. You. Take, it very digital advertising. Love that love that. GotTa get the Fire Wire Cable and then a converter because like. Cable. Well, it goes from like it goes like from many fire wire to like an eight, an eight Penn. so you've gotta get a converter for an eight ten to go to like I don't know what the USB see. Now I don't even know how you would like go. File four hundred back then on those candidates. Maybe. Man I found dance. Oh my but I found that avenue system that Andrew was talking about. It looks like a piece of junk dude. Wasn't. Piece of junk. Can you show a picture? I, put it in the discord chat. It looks. It looks like it has. Their. House. Video Video. There's the FI y point at this like many were isn't it? Yeah. They were. They were like they could do analog and digital and you had to like real time digitize everything so. Yeah the the Casa Blanca God Damn Alex me way back. Is that thing? Huge like. It's like two extra large pizza boxes stacked on top like three. Blocks, stacked on top of each other. It's huge. It cost like five grand and like. A, a user interface that was maddening like you almost longed for two VCR's after using as. They crashed all the time. God, do stuff was a pain in the US like I, always think of James Cameron when he was trying to cut down aliens to make sure he didn't really want to cut any scenes after he'd already made his final selection. So apparently, he just went through each. Each cut you'll each shot and like just trim late two or three frames off but to have to do that manually on film. Cologne. My fricking head off. To that sounds all. Domingo. Yeah I mean if you guy to do it. No I that's absolutely torture. Is Crazy. Do you think it's no coincidence that all four of us used to like we all make content for a living and we used to do is kids basically I. think that's just how that's just the natural flow of isn't it I just find until? I actually applied to film program going into college and I got denied entry. To now I'm working in film. Yeah Yeah I wanted to get A. Major ut but I didn't didn't get in. So I. Got An English degree. Instead Yan got a marketing degree instead it was at. The university I went to specializes in business and in film, but the film program they only accept like sixty students semester something crazy like that and part of the application process was that you had to make a like a short film or something to submit to show your skill your creativity. I didn't have any friends that wanted to participate in anything I didn't have anybody. So I just filmed people around my high school. unbeknownst to them and like edited it together to some co music and then submitted. Artsy. Cinema. VERITE. God those are mid-july. Sheila. You had something. That fucking master pancake tweet about. Any film being. A Wes Anderson Film, if you add Paul Simon to it. I mean that. That whole bit was fucking amazing dude. I don't think I've talked to you about that since I saw that God. Yeah. That opening goonies going to break out of jail it's too good. It's it's absolutely a Wes. Anderson film just putting Paul. Simon, and it's it's crazy. I was just thinking about flashing back to that that that Casa Blanca. obvio- and that like if those still exist anywhere right now there's still can you imagine how yellow that gray plastic is right now? I found I found this on Ebay I can buy you one if you want I could buy you that one. Right now. How much it won't power on its forecasts. Darcy be a super interesting. pod Mode or something or like core show if you just have to make a video using tech from at least thirty years ago that's twenty idea. Edit non linearity and all that stuff really two, hundred, fifty, five dollars. Too much it's a bad. It's not like four grand. A depreciation. Depreciation that's a steep fall off receive interesting looking at devices from. A few decades ago and watching like which parts of the always fail like you're saying the plastic phys been like our in light it's going to be a gammy yellow I pretty much any. Any machine has like a rubber belt inside it that that probably is dissolved. Disintegrated at this point. replaced the belts on old stuff even in like new old stock it's all. Very very unlikely to turn on I. Think I found your working one. Andrew. Found you a working one for five hundred dollars. Why don't we all chip in and we can all take turns using? Person five hundred dollars knows that like. Technology exists. In my mind like take this out of my closet take this out of my guest room I wanna put a treadmill in there, which I will also be giving away two years from now when I don't use that. Those just become close hanging devices at some. Cardio machines. Always being so amazed like when when you make the leap from. Digitizing stuff and Editing with files I remember being. So blown away at the time, you could capture your footage like faster than real time. Oh. Yeah. You didn't have to just like press play on it and record it somewhere you could. Drag a drop. It's like, wow, that was like a few seconds to copy a few minutes. So that was the biggest step up in my brain of like how easy things have gone. Yeah these days they don't appreciate it. They don't appreciate the actually. Going, over to a friend's house and in real time. Logging footage just like playing like playing Mario Kart while footage dumped into a computer in real time because they do it just like. Oh No. The camera on the batteries in the Diet God. In Yeah. Good Times and then, but it was a miracle that was the thing is like. You you always have that like that window of like a new new technologies like maybe started on VCR's, and that was like you know a pain in the ass but we didn't know any better and then you get like non linear editing and it was a miracle but it was also a different kind of pain in the ass and then you there's always that like advent of new technology where it's like this is a revolution but also introduces its on other host of like Piccadilly and problems, and then you eventually find like a couple of years after that like technical technology kind of finds its groove. Like non linear digital computer editing that makes a lot more sense and you know as. Tau We still do. So I still remember when gus had to teach us how to use a pager for that connected duck we did years ago. Where Lost all technology for a week and had to go back to like nineteen eighties technology. Both men like what do you do it this? Like how do I communicate with this thing gus. I never once interacted with a pager or anyone who had one. I'd. Like you're on a podcast with a former pager repairman so if you ever get a Leading. This is the guy for you right here. Just, they just a phone without the phone pause. It had like a phone number that could receive a message, but then that was it right Yeah Right right I mean the beeper you couldn't. It was just like basically a cell phone without the speaker or the. What do you call it? The Mike and Talk and had to settle load that a little weight like a little haptic Spun Buzz Buzz Yeah, it is a it's the same revolutionary technology that's available at your local chilies when your tables ready was the exact same. Deep. My Dad definitely had my dad definitely had pagers. Back how much? How much cocaine to deal. You know. Mountains, but then you know I mean. A bunch of guys with. Machine. Guns infiltrated that tacky Gaudy mansion in Miami. Or maybe there was a movie I might be confused glanced at the chat scoop five says we still use pages at my job love to what job that is and whether it's just like a hipster thing or whether you actually need. Or is it like it's dangerous to use a phone something because they don't want explosions maybe someone will set that. They're still communist hospitals who is this Matt Mo? Par Forty says they're still coming to hospitals. Okay That would have been like an internal system at this point and not like a cellular pager. Truck. Shrugging. Eat Crab great name by the way he grabs says it's twitter without reply. What you mean I don't know either. So just a weird step. It's like they already had. Mobile. Telephone technology, and then just made half a phone. Like, why not just make the whole phone bandwidth issue it was cheaper and the service plan for the pager with us because back then service plants cellphones were super expensive. So it's like the pager was a stopgap. You'd like a cheaper way to stay in contact. There's a small market well. A very. A small window in time where it was viable because then you know cell phones became much cheaper, they're still. Not Cheap, but it's much cheaper than they used to be it used to be used to pay by the minute I think the first cellphone phone, my family had. It was it was a weird deal where it was like the first four minutes of a call were free. But then after that, every minute was five hundred. Dollars Yeah. So if I ever wanted to use the family cell phone which was bolted into the car by the way. You had to carphone to you got to be done the first four minutes. Otherwise he would start charging you. Yeah. There was like a little stop watches like. For My dial up was paid by the minute or whatever. So. Weird. Try and talk to all my friends on MSN than get off as quickly as possible as long distance still like a big thing with phone calls. Because I feel like that's not i. never hear plans talk about like long distance calling the cost of that and adding onto a plan I feel like that's not even. Going through a switchboard has to be manually patched to a different. System. Now a same system known at this time and whatnot you could go through Wi fi and all that stuff. I. Don't know I feel like should not an aspect of calling anymore. Yeah it's weird. I mean do you I don't ever call internationally but do you have to pay for icy? We still have to pay extra for international calls right. Yeah, it's still a shit load. If you don't have an international plan is still a ball ache. Time I'll have to dial into an English conference cool and it's so fricking expensive. I can't believe. That I mean we have like all this other like based technology now, just meet on Google meter discord. Or? Whatever. The fuck. We just use either Zimmer facetime. At this point to talk to each I don't think I call my parents on the phone. 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Do Things. I'm starting to feel slightly overwhelmed by all of the tech. I, feel like. There's a ton of new cooped stuff happening and all the consoles. and. I feel like it's never been. There's never been a clash. This big between consoles in PC gaming I feel like. The point where it's like. What does feel like the? So there's so many good options on both sides. There's now a huge draw. To go into PC gaming with the new, the new video cards which seemed obscene compared to the loss of generation of course of course, I just got fucking twenty eighty like last month. Talking thirty eight now. You have no idea how fucking pissed I was. Thirty Eight, I was like God. I waited five. Finally got it and instantly within a fucking it's out of. Old Now. You gotta you gotta replace it with a thank. God, what does that like fifteen hundred bucks for the thirty ninety? Well how much the twentieth. It was part of the whole computer I don't know who. Over a grand, isn't it even worse? Joe Spend. You could sell it now. Sure, you could get a good price. On Ebay just sit without. L. Sell it. I'll make you a deal throat an avio system. Waiting for that callback. Maybe I'm also slightly confused by the new xbox lineup, the series x s because I read today. tweet that. The xbox series s the white one. CONT. Play enhanced. Games. On, the xbox one x correct. I think it doesn't do the four K. it can only do. HD thing that paternity. So it's a console that less powerful than the current. Gen. The xbox one x but I think the it's less powerful than the one expert. It's more powerful than the one. I don't know. Why you would get that over a one x then. Say. Series. X comes, out. There might be like new series games for that aren't playable on the old xbox. But. It seems to me like that right now just seems like they're just trying to make games accessible everywhere. No matter what you have. Yeah. I just feel like if you're if you're on a budget and you want four K. Gaming. I soon will be cheaper to get a one x than series S. For Short I that's what I would do. Both of The series. S is two hundred bucks right and the one X is four. Okay. So it's actually it is I guess my. If the the next doesn't drop that much in price. Is the strangely lapping lineup at the moment I. Guess this is the Arctic thing right? This is like. We're talking about the xbox right now. Okay. But the before you're talking about the RT X. Thirty eight years. Yes. Yeah. Totally not confusing name at all. I was like just get the architects twenty, twenty, five bucks for every. Video Andrew. Who I can't believe what I'm seeing this video. What are you doing you lunatic let let's let's. Let's show the people here. What Andrew does on his weekends only God dude. Oh my God. Lying It was sideways. It was flipped sideways. But yeah, that was from like six years ago it was like from Twenty fifteen or twenty, fifteen, five years ago. Yeah in my old place, I had a A very bold raccoon. that. Slowly but surely comfortable enough to come up take grapes for my hand but which apparently don't recommend doing because you I mean it was very sweet and very nice but apparently relations. Transmit are the number one transmitter rabies to human beings in in the United States. So be careful they are cute and it was very sweet just taking it very very gingerly from my hand. Thank you. Unless you're at our TEAC, there was a story of people who were here for our tax finding a bat in the street. And potentially how they could have gotten rates and we're like Oh. Man I really hope this wasn't someone who was attending are. Luckily, you know what? You're not worrying about from architects at home a bat. Unless you're in your home. Your home. Bat. Free. No bats in. Your House. It's a gust problem. That's a promise. Okay the Chaz let me know that series s has ray tracing and the xbox one X is discontinued. Yes. I guess the price is like excellent price for a new console. If if it's better in some ways, it's worse than otherwise I'm curious to see Sony's having their press conference on Wednesday. So like two days from today the I think the hopefully, it'll finally announce a release date in pricing what they're doing for the five. So we'll. We'll see I'm I'm I'm so far I'm really interested in everything that I've seen with the XBOX and I think Microsoft has a lot going on with making gaming accessible some curious to see how Sony. Sony answers but Tony just has killer first party titles. Accessible in what way let mainly affordability affordability I think having project x cloud work which. Debuts tomorrow by the way on Android Devices, I think cloud is really interesting I. Think some of the pricing structures at Microsoft has four, the series x, and for the way that that works really interesting where you can pay on monthly installments and get you know game pass a console and xbox live all bundled in one monthly payment. Yeah that's bad. They're just you know for people maybe who? is a buying a Guinea. PC's very expensive buying a console. She's not as expensive, but it's still a lot of money. You know if you can try to reduce that barrier to entry, you just end up with a lot more people playing games. You probably could have bought two x book series exes for the price of your obsolete graphics. Are you rubbing salt in my wounds gaps? The two thousand eighteen is still a very graphics card. But. I bought it to play cyberpunk twenty, seventy seven, and now when I'm playing cyberpunk I'm going to go it could look better. You know a thirty nine thousand would really help you out with flight simulators simulators. That's the other than. One I could maybe finally put all ultra Mak settings on flight simulator. I'm excited to see a ton of videos of people getting thirty, nine hundred and having to like cut holes in their case. Let people who refused to get you case just want to shove it in there I wanna see more of that. A break it's huge. They have a sizing guide I was looking at the video website the other day. Like. System requirements and the system requirements includes physical specifications for how big of a space you need in your computer and your case as it is. Crazy. It's big. How many gigabytes is? That flight simulator game. How much? How much do have to download one hundred and one hundred and twenty gigs Holy. Yeah. Cheesy got. Entire Disk space of my. It's a fucking it's fucking massive and. It's also constantly streaming data from the Internet as well. So. Yeah, you need a lot of space for it almost needed like its own machine for it might get. Here. A whole separate. I just happened to be podcasting right now. Okay. We're. GonNa play something with Chris or someone who had to have that gave installed and like they were going to install it right before the recording and then realized it was one hundred, twenty something. Yeah, we're supposed to something with Chris and he showed up to the recording with I think the trial version or the Demo version install No. No. I can still play it that he tried to launch it and no way to. Building something else. I don't know what the status that video is. I'll talk about anyway. So it's Chris. Didn't have the game we were like. Well, let's film something a flight simulator anyway. So then everyone else involved, we just had everyone. Suggests places that they wanted to visit since we're all stuck at home and you know able to travel. So we just went and did like seeing around the world like places that we live. And try to find spots since it has like although the being map data and I think it ended up pretty good I don't know I haven't seen any. Of It, I don't know how I don't know what the end product looked like. It was fun to fly around him and look at things that we can't see. Yeah I miss that I. Miss Those days. 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I, love the youtube exists for stuff like that because I in becky today, it would have been a lot of effort to get like a TV series commissioned but now you could just live vicariously through other people who have. Like Shit like blowing a salary on a flight to the point where it's like now, I feel like I don't have to do that. I? Mean it's nice as it would be to fly in a small apartment. It's not it's not. You don't need to do that but to see what it's like I feel like that's the interesting part. The Emirates one that. Barbara. There's a living room a bathroom with its own shower and a separate bedroom. I'm not sure if. I'm not sure which video specifically you watched Barbara but I've seen a couple of them like that and it's like it's absolutely ridiculous where the person in the video I've seen we'll be asleep in the bed and looked a flight attendant will come in and offer them food while they're in the fucking badly. End I know it's probably better than some peoples living spaces are probably much better than a lot of people's living spaces I think of those like closet apartments people have inhabited. Ever, I was wasting if I was asleep and I did I've I've never bought First Class, I've I've I sometimes get the upgraded five Enough Miles. That's the only time I've done it or sometimes if a company. Like offers it to you to fly into a job like they being used as bail out money. Once. I once got put in business class to Austria and Tired on the way back. I fell asleep there. The seats fully recline into like a bed shape and I fell asleep before the plane took off just upright and I woke up with like an hour left on the flight and I'd like wasted all of the comfort. I was slumped over. Upright. That is easily the biggest first world problem and I've like I've been lucky enough to have been upgraded before because we do fly a lot and you do get upgrades through frequent flyer programs and whatnot. I've flown business class once on an international flight and I was like I I can't sleep on this because I'm going to waste. I. Don't WanNa waste a second of this because it's an experience that will never do anything about. It makes it better and more exciting when you grow up with that stuff and you get a little taste of it through whatever. So you're just like. I woke up with canal from the plane. Immediately reclined. We will be landing in forty five minutes. Part of. You know you're in luxury when they bring you. An actual like. And real like metal silverware to eat where you're just like, Oh, my God what Ohio. Yeah. They give you plastic silverware because they don't want stabbing people but I guess it's just like a weight thing. Because they have it to business class proper like S- tabbies but have a sharp tip or those knives sharp at all not but you could bichon enough they'll go in they can they? I. Say. Do So been please. The I've flown graded class. It was like I think business. steph definitely wasn't. I can't remember like. Economy plus but it was like somewhat nicer and flew probably probably business but I flew flew to London. For For a couple of years ago. And it was one of those things where it's like I mean it was essentially double the ticket price but I was like you know what I'm doing this for me. This is like trip I've never receipt never been overseas unlike thirty three and never been overseas I'm spending his spend the money and just like do it do it right and man it is it's going to be so hard to go back. Whenever we can fly. Safely, it's going to be so hard on me because. That's not a bad price. If it was only double, sometimes, business class is like six to ten times more expensive than premium economy. The thing you WanNa do the little trick you could do depending on like I don't know if it has anything to do with status or whatnot. But when you're actually checking in the day of your flight and you ask if they have upgrades to business or whatever sometimes, it'll be a lot cheaper just to do it that way because I think when I tried to do that it was only going to be like I'm saying only because it's the grand scheme of things but I think it was like four or five hundred dollars to upgrade which. A ticket business class ticket is usually couple grand at latest so That in the scheme of it was very cheap but to do it, online would be you know a few thousand extra. So yeah, I'm a little heck. Yeah. That's gotta be I mean if you're already flying like you know. Economy plus or something like that. If you're at the gate and like do you have any business class and like I mean it's Like four hundred dollars, they weren't going to get anyway. So they like well upgrade you for the same. Seats they. WanNa feel. Let's see if they want to get you know bring money. That will vanish. Flying soon, just for like a carbon footprint. So of perspective, do you think they'll go back to just one class for the entire flight? Because they make all their money on the premium cabins. fucking. I just saw I just saw recently on A. It wasn't twitter, but recently, they some flights are converting their main cabin basically into one giant first class like. They're kind of getting rid of. Economy and like the flights look seats are way spread out. Fully. recline and stuff like that. 'cause they're just like, what are we gonNa do we got to incentivize people to? Fly until expend money on on flights. So they're they're kind of going the opposite where they're making fights actually more. Some flights more luxurious I want just to a fly a plane full of beds, same S. Not Three high. Super cramped super cozy but just so you can lie down I. Think if they had just lie flat plains. Probably publicity played. Want that like guy feel like I. Love it I like the option of sitting though because lying down, it's I. Don't know if you guys have ever tried reading a book while lying fully horizontal it's a little difficult and your arms get tired. I would like the ability to sit up on a plane and the ability to lie down but I think if I had to choose between the two I'd probably still choose sitting would if it had like. VELCRO above you and you could like Volcker your kindle up there. Yeah. Oh that's a game changer. Yeah like Gavin like you were saying a screen or something and something like attached to. So he could go hands-free on it. Yeah. That's a little different but. Oh, I'm. Getting tired by arms getting tired you mean me getting tired yeah. I'm reading a book completely down. This guy's asleep in five minutes. There's no question about it. That's the. Getting old when me holding a book up in my bed, my arms. Got Tired. Like. Interesting Age in the chat be one from London. City. JFK is an a three, eighteen, thirty, two business class seats and nothing else art. officiant. That's crazy. But. So Fun from London say apple that's the one that's right on the Thames. By the accelerator I flew from it once before we did before, we did the first. Artistic London we were touring different venues in in London. We're GONNA, hold the event, and we've the Excel Centre was the last venue we looked at and we're finishing up the tour. You could see Linden city. Airport from the Excel Centre and I remember I was one of the balconies and we're walking around with the people from the Excel Centre and I saw the airport now pointed at it and I ask. Is that an airport right over there they said yeah. Let's Limit City Airport. And I said, and you can fly to other countries from there. They said yeah, it's a full full fledged airport, just smaller than the other ones like Okay. So then I went and I looked at my phone and I I found a flight to Ireland for like seventy five bucks as oh. Okay. I'M GONNA GO TO DUBLIN Over to the court and it's like. You could just go from right there. It was like it was faster to get to Dublin bit to get in a taxi go back to the hotel I was staying. Yeah Like? Like London Luton is also quite A big airport for like short haul flights but it's no London. Come undiluted. I watched a I watched a lot of videos and I watched an interesting one that like chronicle, the history of all the different airports in London and why there are so many and. It was it was interesting. Because are a ton of fucking airports in the London area and Luton is one of the ones that they talk about. They talk about how they all start and why there's so many they're. Interesting is. I watch way too many videos about place your. Story is as follows still think England, sucks. No I did not care for London after the first time I went I think a lot of that was because the first time I went the exchange rate was over two to one I. think it was like. It was like everything was just so fucking expensive. Yeah. It was like a fucking nightmare. Hilarious because I I met you two thousand and four in London and. You must have paid like eighteen quid which would probably close to forty dollars for like a dog ship meal in this crappy that we were at and it was raining and you're tired and you're like this country sucks I just found that so funny. This hit it don't ever go in streets terrible like that. So everything was like you see the price like Oh that's not bad. Always that's I have to after pay more than double that in US dollars and it just looked like some. Dried drives me on a plate with some salad. One, one of the best things I've ever tasted in my life was in London. One of the best meals I've ever had what was. This dish, Ume, it's an Indian restaurant. Jessica Asami was talked about that place. We. Went with her and like Daniel and like a couple of like like. THEIR HAUNTS PRODUCTION FOLKS Yeah by the way getting. was in London She was there on that production and you said that she had a weird headline line I just want to remind you that you said. said it was cool. Yes we went out to dinner. There's like Indian place in. Big Group and they have a a a chop little lamb chop that or a pork chops lamb chops lamb chops. That is the one of the best things I have ever tasted I. Think about it till the frequently I cannot wait to get back there just order and then the they marinated for you know days or something like that but it is unbelievably good I cannot wait till. I can travel again and taste that little shop. It's. Unbelievable Lillian Food in England is actually excellent. It's so. And I don't know what happened in in translation between the UK and the US Indian food hair is just It's not all. We didn't call an is that subcontinent for you know several hundred years so that it's true. We don't. We don't have that same connection you. Milton cheese. Come to the right play sir. You definitely have that in the bag over here fried. CHEESY NEAT right here America come on down. In plenty you want fry meet we've got fried cheesy meet at artistes at home I saw either the greatest or worse thing ever in my life on Tiktok the other day where these people put. Tin Foil down on their kitchen table. Poured. Tortilla chips everywhere, and then essentially made a table size worth of Nacho. So they put like a bunch of, Caso. They put Cilantro and salsa like everything that would be on Nachos essentially just like covered their entire dining table. And it was like Oh have a party and bring all these people over and everyone will just eat nachos off the table like fucking animal's delicious. No hands. Allow just face down into the NACHO table. Yep I was like there's nothing how American this. Just, a table full and Nachos for everyone to grab as they enter the room. Okay. How do you feel about this? Because I I'm of the school when I like order NACHOS. I want a annette setting heaping plate of like chips and cheese and meat and beans, and like I want it to be like this like. This. Dome. visit as a whole just doesn't work. It's full of notches. We thought you can cover all this Gu delicious stuff but then too. It's Almost. Like what kind of one you get? What do get? Absolutely caked one that might be a bit soggy. You get one the small crispy but has pixel on it. Layers you got do. So you put some chips down and then do some cover and then more chips down. Okay. I've never had that. That sounds perfect. Exactly. That's because most places most places don't do it right? They don't layers because it takes time and this is a volume in business here. But yeah, doing layers and the hey, doing it really high heat really fast crispy and keeps from getting soggy most people don't do it that way but then That's my. That's my I like Nacho method but then I hate I hate when you go to a place and it's like they're charging big heaping plate Nacho prices for individual Nacho like where it's like a play of like eight chips that are like daintily dressed as not just like it's got everything, it's like. What you gotTa do you gotta find ways got gotta find a place that has nachos available as an appetizer for the table and get that for yourself. That's what you do because that'll be a heap an amount because. People. Talk about it started selling Nachos with like. Like a Vegan substitute on them, but it's still has all the cheese in all the other non vegan stuff I. Don't understand why they would sell nachos like that that they should be legend -Tarian, maybe not Vegan just. Maybe, that's the concession, but it's just weird to me that they would take out one. Ingredient but not the rest of them are you still weakened by the way. Mostly. I have cheap meals on the weekend, but during the week plan based. During the short answer is no. Man. Yeah. I'm a weekday Vegan. A. I had I had the TACO Cabana beyond me like beef taught. Did you? Yeah it's it's really good like for a link when you want that like. Because it's It's very distinct like kind of fast food crumbly beef Kinda cafeteria style Toco that only those kind of tacos tastes like but occasionally that's all you want in the world it knocks it out of the park with that flavor. So if you want like It crispy beef. TACO that tastes like beef and doesn't have any beef in it I'd say it's a pretty it's pretty close Paxton. I run make guilty confession to you Andrew. I've wanted that flavor sometimes you talking about like that greasy almost cafeteria style Beef Taco yeah. You can buy like to make your own Taco Bell at home kits where it's like the Taco show gives you the salsa and it gives you the spices. You just supply like cheese lettuce and beef yourself as all by those album like impossible. Beef or possible burger stuff. Yeah. H and was make tacos. Yeah it's like I'm making Taco bell at home, but it's like sometimes it's just what you want. You just want that cheap. Taco tip flavor and yeah. Yeah, it's Absolutely slaps no, it's. It's incredible. Sometimes that's all that will do like it's it's not it's not good per se. It just goes hard and that's exactly what you want. Nothing is the hardest trash like fast food to replicate a home like. Is it extremely difficult to make a big Mac from just ingredients. Now now, hundred, all we've actually done before. How great you can you can get the same stuff but I did it tastes like a big Mac or was it like? It did I actually also think Eric Produer if you're listening I think did we do that at your place? DidN'T BARBARA MAKE A Big Mac one time or we had like some burger that she recreated that tasted just like the fast food burger no I don't know if that was me. You don't think that was you I'm pretty sure that was. Barbara unless I just made some Oh, I make some hamburgers one time, and then I guess you're just saying they were very good. As, possible. Using it with someone else now I think I wasn't trying to recreate anything I think it just made some hamburgers that were very good. So okay, let's. Excited for this to be over some where people come over to eat hamburgers can I? Can Hamburgers kind of bring somewhere koons you can bring some raccoons. You can bring some raccoons and they can eat hamburgers also. Noise wow. They can't wait to eat raccoons my grease trap. Actually pretty easy to recreate because it's just like you need the the sauce to be right but then it's just essentially pickles lettuce and cheese. IOS pretty easy I feel like anything. Like anything fried to a very specific degree as a little bit harder to do because like you need. Like a deep Fryer Air Fryer and the Air Fryer can't quite do with like deep fryer to do just in terms of like really imbuing something with the lake really crispy flavor like I made a couple of like chick-fil-a sandwich facsimiles at my place. Using an Air Fryer and it's Conway hitter missed like delicious but it definitely doesn't like. Doesn't hit that specific flavor I may take up Andrew this air fryer because I just bought an Air Fryer to try out some cooking via that and if you have. Bad Times is a good F-. It's great. I love it. I've made one meal with it though. So it's not a whole lot to based off of I made salmon in vegetables in it and it turned out. Delicious. So would recommend so far salmon salmon definitely really good in there. I would say you do not in they're pretty pretty well too because it's a hot air and that circulation like Chris and chips keeps from getting soggy with crispin chips. Any things? A little things a little you can do penis is just the worst thing that can happen to any food. Cereal. Like Oh bread a tuna sandwich knock it just goes disgraceful WANNA get some. House Sochi there. It because that's the way you're supposed to eat it is it's what it's not hard cracked pasta. It's cooked technically soggy I was making a stupid joke talking. What about six should be soggy? We big need to be they need to start absorbing but then you want to really use that big spoon a Scott from down because if it gets too Silky, they just disintegrate into like Milky Porridge crap. Is this is. Like grape nuts like where it's. What? People like Gregory Grapes also cereal that's like I like grape nuts assumed that wind dry. Could be used as like. A Musket ammunition and then. When soaked in milk for for a time turns into overnight oats like it just like there's a window, you have to eat great nuts in. The big. Shredded. Wheat. This big. Yeah We mix a similar in size. It's not like shredded. We. It's more of a mix. Yeah. Okay. The. Big Fat. You could to in a bowl three feeling pretty hungry. What happens if you put them in the Air Fryer though then what? Maybe, you can soggy. Bakes and Adra in an effort to. Bring it back to life. I'm excited that we did a podcast without talking about spoons that would have been a whole month of spoons and I'm glad we avoided it now. It's funny about that actually Gavin. I. I'm brought these just in case the conversation came up, but I brought an actual teaspoon table measurement. Just to show how fucking insane you guys are for wanting to eat out of this amount of. Out of a measuring teaspoon, but this is a teaspoon. This is where. That is. You know I'm looking I'm looking at those two things good God I'm looking at those two measuring spins and I cook a lot and I make stuff with you know that require precise measurements but if like. Honestly, I don't think I've ever made anything that like had thrown in one of those and not the other would have ruined the entire thing. Not. How much fucking difference are those? From each other that like it's GonNa, kill whatever your net let vanilla extract. King Okay maybe point conceited you're absolutely right. Never mind I step away from this. I see the five year your bed as that's all I've got I can't think of any other food with. These. ABC's Vice Oil. Yeah. That's true. I would say anything that's got like I take extract just because it's such a unbelievably powerful. Yes. Like flavor concentrate. So look down. Out of context you sitting there holding all those boots you look at. Birth Crane Spoon ever saying that my big spoon was like fucking massive and I think because it's it's really shallow like it's wide but shallow but this is essentially the same. The. Him I know we're not talking about necessarily, but we get graphics. US interest one time just once just once. I think. Would you use? Salt so much. So much. It's good. It has a very like. Kind of nine days like down an-and. All like, yeah. It's got field unplugged electric guitar. We came back. Speaking of kitchen stuff my kettle broke the other day I have an electric kettle to boil water and boil the water I left it on the counter. Then I went back to get more and when I picked it up like water started pouring out of the bottom of it. Shit Jack like what the hell run over to the sink and and dump it in the sink. So I had to have had something I think for eight years it finally went out damn. So so I started trying to shop for a new one. I was like, okay. I'm going to start reading reviews and I found one review from this person on Amazon and find hero fast this person. I reading Amazon reviews is. So. It's a window into the insanity of people right? It's like everyone looks human but then you read a review on Amazon like this person only physically appears human. So. You know the Reviews Working Amazon right? It's like you rate things on a scale of one to five stars. So I'm Gonna I'm just GonNa read the first like three sentences of this review. The title is he's water quickly it's a four star review by the way. I really like this kettle I wish I could give this four point eight stars but we're only allowed whole numbers. I would have given it five stars except for one small detail. I wish the kettle temperature would start lower than one seventy as I like my hot cocoa around one fifty. But. It does have a digital display. So I can catch lower temperatures by standing, watch it. was like Jesus Christ. What's up with this more points in person tangent then back why not give it the five stars? Where did you give it four stars? And then. I mean I can understand wanting more precise temperature control but in that case, just get a cattle with different temperatures. which exist. Just. So baffled, this person must be really fun to hang out with at a party. seriously. I always hate when people review things about products that have nothing to do with like the product's functionality or quality or anything like that. Well, arrived broken. Or like. Or Yeah or like Oh it had something I guess I could understand the justification people like Oh rives and it like ripped or something like that. But it's also like well, that was just your case. You should probably take it up with the actual vendor itself rather than rate an actual product that exists poorly because of a shipping malfunction or whatever it was. You know. Going under I was GONNA. Say in Amazon reviews and I would say also the like questions and answers about products is just the absolute. It is an island of misfit toys. It is where like Humanities. Just, most depraved psychos go to interact with each other. Because they'll be stuff like we'll be questions for products like. Like does this come in silver and then summer will have answered it I don't know I didn't buy it. What the fuck is going on. Remember that would happen. Go. This is the first of all. It does it come and silver you can look just screw. Loose. You had to pass that information to get to the question. Asked me. Maybe, people think that if you see a question is rude to answer it. You just have to read if you don't know the answer like you're being Austin real life. Directed. At them. Reminds me of like a lot of the times in the past when we would be going somewhere hosting some event in some city and we posted on the roof she site or on twitter, and we'd get people responding being like. I don't live there. I can't come because I don't live there. It's like. Okay I'm sorry I. Don't really understand the response that people are looking to receive for that. Of just like, oh You could travel for ends like I don't know what people are expecting. It's always interesting to me for that kind of. On a somewhat related note too that Barbara I remember years ago I used to answer all of the email that we would get received all the email from. From people from viewers and from you know people who are in the community and we had just I. Think we had just gone to Arctic snow. It just got into rb Te'o and like. A week or two after came back I got an email from someone that was like, Hey, are you ever GonNa do an event in Toronto and I wrote back like Hey we were actually just there it was fan expo. It was fantastic but we'd gone back. We're actually. We're at Fan Expo. Was it like what we will probably be there again, next year. Sorry. You missed us and that person wrote back like yeah. But that's really far from me. I live in the suburbs I wanted to do something closer to me. I mean. I went to another country already. Win Ninety nine point nine percent of the way there you could meet I mean we're not going do something in your neighborhood. You can meet me in the last point one percent. I will never forget one of my favorite emails we've ever gotten. This is back in the day when Gus Unite us to co-director artifacts together, and so we would also get all the questions that people email in and I think this was. Twenty twelve or two thousand thirteen. We got an email from someone saying, Hey, I'm coming from Florida does the ticket price for artifacts include airfare and hotel And I didn't know how to respond to that in a way where I wasn't being mean about it to say, maybe you're sixty dollar ticket does not include the cost of a flight and hotel for a weekend like I didn't know how to say that without coming across as a complete bitch I mean the only way that could ever be possible as if every single attendee lift in the same place. Shuttle out there. What luckily, you don't have to worry about airfare and hotel this year are. Already have your own home or wherever you're staying. To sleep in, you don't have to pay someone else. Kicking off tomorrow with I I it's GonNa Be September fifteenth to twenty fifth and We have a free trial. Tamar first night is available for everyone Some panels are for I members only if you'd like a trial code again was RTC trial it. Are Trial, you can get a a trial I membership. If. You want to check it out limited time offer and doesn't have to be a new account. It could be an existing rt account could even have had I at one point if you just want to get it again just for temporary trial just for our check it out. Anyway are texts coming up at home said, we're fifteen to twenty fifth. Kicked off the first night tomorrow evening what's going to be I'm sure you guys will hear this a many times throughout the event but hot damn. We have some fucking cool ass merged dropping throughout the next few weeks for artiach. Some stuff is archie exclusive stuff will be available until it sold out but you definitely want to keep an eye on what's going on in the store. We also just dropped a link to a very cool thing for coop. COOP OR COOP DOT research dot com I think the link there Oh my God. There's some cool fucking shit happening in the next. I. Got bummed out today because some of our social media accounts and people at the company between about the cool stuff like being teased and I think it Shubin hunter posted a Gif of me being like. We always. Did you do? I don't know like I'm looking at myself. Be like. Oh. I. Don't know what? It's like I'm making fun of myself. Also I going back why is it that you were in charge of all the email when you are the most anti-social person who has Come. Because when I was a when that started not that division of Labor started when I was in. Puerto, Rico? So I couldn't help with. Filming. So I tried to help with all the other non filming stuff So that's why I used to handle all of our email for years because of that. Under remember. All of my at the apartment and Buta had all of my favorite emails on the wall printed out mixed. Wall of emails just off my right. I feel like. There was like a like a different level of dumb back. Then I don't know if. It was like you've got people being confused at just about things general also like people were new at the Internet as a whole. So they were like turbo. Turbo extra dumb. Yeah Good. Time Yeah, there's no Ma there's there's some hot stuff dropping unexcited hot. We've mentioned I night, which is tomorrow. That's where a lot of the Annapolis will be so. You definitely want to check it out. It's like the first thing. Big Kickoff. Check it out. September fifteenth at five. PM Central Time. and. Chat a couple of times people asking about the stuff we're wearing the hat, this shirt gusts shirt they're all going to be drop for. This is a corduroy hat with a leather in the back. Very nice. Very comfortable and there's also some stuff. Oh, coyly behind me, oops who put that there were. Bought me what does Bush drop? Why is it GONNA drop? because. It's falling from the Heavens Kevin. That's an excellent reply. Very fast yeah I was locked and loaded. Actually. 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The First Reveal

Around the Rim

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The First Reveal

"The. On with lunch. Shino robinson. Hello basketball fans. It is your favorite time of the week. That's right. A brand banking new episode of your ESPN w women's basketball podcast around the rim. I am your host joined by my up alternate. Fabulous producer kyri without Kyrenia was in the building to Rica. If you guys don't know there's a lot of snow happening in the northeast. And so we are sending our thoughts and prayers to everyone because the weather is rough. The kyri was was kind enough to brave the weather in come into work. So we're going to try to speed up the show. So that he can get home for all this snow piles up because you're from jurors. Right. So you you you're good with the snow. I mean, they get a little more appear in Bristol Connecticut than in jersey, but it is pretty much. Well to Rica should be bad about it too. But trust me if soon as there was the option of hey, schools are close to Rico's like I'm staying home with my daughter of like, yeah. No kidding. But Dow shot outside to Rica. We're glad that you're you're staying safe. And hopefully, everybody's staying warm. We've got a great show for you today. We are going to be joined later on in the show by Adam Amin, the play by play announcer for the women's final four who just an overall great guy and has filled in seamlessly in that seat alongside Rebecca Lobo and care Lawson and Holly Rowe for our fantastic final four crew. So we're going to learn a little bit about the ins and outs of what Adam does. And kind of what happens. I mean. It's exciting stuff. If you don't remember his play is play by play. Call on the the winning shot from our eek last year for the national championship that you are been hiding under a rock. So we look forward to more of that from atom in more great action at the final four this year. Tampa, we're. Also going to talk a little bit about we're going to recap the big Monday game between uconn and South Carolina. We'll talk about the NCAA reveal at least I will here in a moment before we get to add them. And then in the closing of the show. We're gonna talk about some big basketball news. We taped our podcast last week before we got to talk about my Amores decision to sit out the twenty nineteen WNBA season. So I am going to fill you in on that. And also give my thoughts. But first the big game last night was at the excel centre between the Yukon huskies and the visiting South Carolina Gamecocks called by our final four crew also called by our smack talk crew on ESPN three Asia Wilson to sue bird along with Eric freed did a little simulcast where there was some trash talking between the two alumni of those team, which was very very fun. But South Carolina came out strong. They looked really good. We'll crunch some numbers and talk about that. But first of all, let's hear from Rebecca Lobo. Who was with Nafisa Collier after the game. These another Hughes performance from you when you came out of the game coach gave you a hug, what was it like for you to be out there, you know, just being so efficient once again for this team on the go, really good. I thought we played great as a team today. Just have everyone you know, hitting our shots executing on offense and defense. It was really good game for us such different defensive effort in the third quarter that we saw in the first half. What was the key for your team turning things around for the hat? We really we know what they wanna do. We had a really on taking that away. We were a little bit slow down that in the first half. So just walking down on you and Katie Lou combined for sixty points. What is it like for the two of you came in together a little bit different year for you? So far this year. But to be able to produce the way you have recently when we got off the bench. We're like we finally both at a game because it's usually one or the other, but it feels great, and, you know, I'm really proud of housing today and how we all really fought today. So they actually now that a listening to. Beca doing the interview. I don't know. Polly was there because normally Hollywood do the interview. Anyway, I mean, the dominance of Nafisa Collier. Katie Lou was on display again, I talked about the first half of the game where South Carolina jumped out to a twenty seven Twenty-three lead in the first quarter. And then you con- did come back strong. The second outscoring the Gamecocks twenty one sixteen but the game changer was the twenty nine to twelve third quarter. I mean, you know, how you conduct it. They go on these runs, and they never looked back. And it's just so hard to recover especially because the crowd at the excel centre was great uconn ended up scoring fifty points in the paint again Collier had thirty one points was fifteen for twenty three from the field, sixteen rebounds. Katie Lou Samuelson twenty nine points, seven rebounds, ten for nineteen from the field. Just a fantastic display in that third quarter even on the defensive end because that's where you can. Really was struggling early on. It's like South Carolina was hitting threes. They were three for four in the first quarter from long range shooting fifty seven percent. And so you're not used to seeing team score so easily against yukons defense. But nevertheless, the huskies prevailed ninety seven to seventy nine and I said this last night on on Twitter. Yes. You did come back to win this game, which we expect it on paper Yukon supposed to win it. But you have to credit the job that dawn Staley has done with this game Cox team loss Asia Wilson. The number one overall draft picks pay very post centered offense around her catches from the high post low block post up. I mean, however, you could get the ball she was scoring machine. Now, you look at this year's team in you gotta find, you know, a new closer a new go-to. It's been a combination Bianca Cuevas. More was fantastic last night with twenty five points. Take Cooper had twenty their ability to go off of the bounce is so impressive tie. Harris. Doesn't get the credit. I think she deserves. I mean, we are talking about maybe the most poised confident point guard, even when she was a freshman. Right. You take it back to, you know, her first year, South Carolina, and even win them with them winning the national championship. She just always played above her level. And I just have the ultimate. Confidence when she's on the floor when she's making decisions so shout out to the back court for for South Carolina. But their front court was probably the biggest concern last night and in particular, Alexis Jennings who had six points in seventeen minutes. I think we expected more from Jennings now not to take away from yukons defense. But I thought that she underperforming this game. She's going to have to be better. My key. Herbert Harrigan again one of my favorites even her freshman year, which was their national championship season. You know, they had lost coats. And so Herbert Harrogate had to kinda play more minutes. Right. And yeah, they slid a gray into the post, but Herbert Harrington became more potent. I just really like her gain a main. She plays hard. She was five for twelve last night. Not gonna Bill you weigh in terms of her stats, but she could be a game changer down the stretch for the Gamecocks. Anyway, that was the game of the night. But the reveal the reveal. Was what everyone was waiting for at half time. And you know, you look at our studio crew last night was Maria Taylor. Who was fantastic Charlie cream who our Brakha tala gist coach Andy Landers, the the hall of Famer and then Debbie Antonelli? So this is how the NCAA women's basketball committee. Sees the top sixteen ranking now keep in mind, the top sixteen teams will all host and the first and second rounds the regionals this year Albany, Chicago, Greensboro in Portland. So the seating wit like this Baylor Louisville, Oregon, Mississippi State, uconn Notre Dame, Stanford North Carolina State, Marquette, Iowa, Maryland, Oregon state, South Carolina, Gonzaga, Iowa State, Miami, the regional this is how broke out all buzney was Mississippi State Yukon, excuse me, Mississippi State was number one uconn to to Oregon state three Miami four Chicago Lewis. One Stanford to Marquette three Iowa State for Grey's borough. All the smoke Baylor. One Notre Dame to Maryland three South Carolina, the four seed in Greensboro Portland region. Oregon the number one seed in see state number two Iowa, the three seed guns Vaga, the four seed take a listen to what our trolley cream had to say about this bracket. Charlie I know that she constantly busting down. What the answers and solutions will be to the top sixteen seeds and how everything will look on selection Monday. But your take away from the first reveal we get this season way. The message we got from the committee here is that geography once again wins out over bracket balance and some years, it's okay with the to kind of meet each other in the middle. Not with this reveal this bracket is not very well balanced. I think you could look at Albany and Portland and say they are considerably weaker brackets or regions than. The other two, and I think that does a little bit of a disservice to the game we have Baylor Notre Dame together in the same region, for instance. And I just don't I don't like it. And I know, Debbie. Yeah. Well, we don't like it either Charlie in first of all I wanna send a shout out to my friends on the NCAA selection committee because they have a hard job. I've done the mock selection now once but twice I was actually in Indianapolis last year on selection Monday and had a chance to really learn about the process and all goes into this committee works, really hard. They want a lot of games or crunching a lot of numbers to process is. So I it's just crazy. You wouldn't even be able to magin what all goes into it? But we're scratching our heads a little bit because this bracket is not balanced now when they were talking about geography, there's been assumptions that the NCAA committee at times has slotted the bracket based on teams being closer to that region in hopes that the fans will travel so it ends up being a little bit of a money factor. Right. But you know, it's also about the quality of the crowd and the experience for the student athlete if the fans can drive. In place to be packed out fun game. Great for TV all of that. But to protect the integrity of the game should Baylor. Be a number one seed in Greensboro with Notre Dame. As a to South Carolina fans, which will drop degrees borough. She baylor. Have to be that far from Waco in have the challenge of possibly facing, South Carolina and the situation where they have base homecourt advantage. If their fans are traveling. So there's a lot that goes into it. And yeah, I'm making it seem basic, it's not, you know, you've got shrink of schedules are PI's and all that stuff. There's s curb there's g curve there's all kinds of curves. But we'll continue to talk about this. This just gives us a look at what the NCAA selection committee is thinking about we'll continue to keep our eyes and think the next reveal is maybe in two weeks. So we should get an idea of where things are from there. But that's the reveal again, we have atom Amine coming up a good interview with him. And then at the end of the show, I will give you my thoughts on the one my more. But for now, sit back, relax and get to know ADEMA mean, he's cool guy. Three seconds for a national championship or overtime. Wall. I still get chills. I swear I still get chills. Ladies and gentlemen. If you do not remember that call it was arguably the most iconic final four championship call ever in the history of college basketball, those pipes belong to one atom Amine the play by play guy on our women's championship from twenty eighteen which arguably I think it was the best final four in women's college basketball history. But anyway, we are excited to have Adam with us on the show. Welcome Adam all man that that is that's a heck of an intro China. Thank you so much. I appreciate your. I mean, we do here that like tell me is that we get you hype for games. Like, do you have that on your phone? So like when you need a little do it because I get height listened to it is that like a workout makes us something like that. I'm not run third bench press while. I think it's an interesting thing that you just said because it it reminds you what can happen. You know, why we do the job? And like, I I don't wanna make too much of it. 'cause it's one call in a in, you know, at one point for one game. But it's it's that's that's what you hope for you. Hope every games like that you open every game. You call, you know, whether you're an analyst or a play by play announcer, reporter, producer, whatever you hope that every game has something like that. When it obviously has the stakes that that one did. I mean, that's hard to top man. We might never have anything like that ever. Again. I'm operating under the assumption that we may never have anything like that ever again. So I'm sort of appreciate the fact that we got a chance to be there to watch that when to set it call it. I'm totally here for you being humble. But let me just tell you that that was not just a call. Okay. That was like mazing moment I've ever experienced in sport. Like, I'll just tell you right now. Like, I was actually sitting across. The announce table, and I got some interesting footage to because the crazy part was that when it happened. I was sitting diagonal from the Notre Dame bench. Like right in front of the Notre Dame fans. So I had my phone out. But when the shot went up, I turned and I'm looking back at at Notre Dame's fans while my back is turned our Rica brings her like the players over to that section and it's like standing right in front of Notre Dame sexy. So I missed that. By the time, I turned around they're moving back. But the other part that I happen to get from that section was that. Right. As you know, they said, okay, Notre Dame one or whatever and it was done. Final score. Matt McGraw muffins husband was sitting behind me comes darting out of the state. He was doing a full sprint him in the ivy's, son. They come like just running out. It was an amazing moment. But I do have to ask you this the camera the little spy Cam. Right. That was on you Becca and Keira, you know, that was repeatedly posted on on social media just how calm care was Rebecca's response was not. I mean, it takes a lot to really get Rebecca to react. Right. I mean, she's got the hands on the head. All that wh-. What do see as you relive that moment over and over again in terms of your demeanor? And kind of what the group was doing. I think Pat Lowery our boss are coordinating producer who you know. Yeah. I think she kind of summed it up for for all of us last year at our post post game wrap up or whatever. And she was saying that it kind of embodied all of us like that. Like our reactions in that moment kind of body what we're about like the Becca is like incredulous and I'm excited, and and that's that's my nature as a broadcast. I like getting excited I like big moments and Tara is just stone cold. And that's like that's the embodies just, and I, and I think that's part of the reason we work. I hope that's how it comes off. But I think we work really well together. And I love those two women like they are and highly too. I certainly wouldn't want to exclude Holly from that makes either. 'cause those three women are important people in my life as as a person forgets just as a broadcaster. But like, I think that moment on camera kind of. Bodies what we're all about. And I think it's a good mix. And I think it kind of maybe represents why I think we work well together, you know, we we all have different personalities, but for some reason, I think they gel well, and obviously when you're sitting next to to really really really smart people you obviously want to defer to them as much as possible. But what I love about those two as as an announcer specifically, there's they just have so much respect for the for the broadcast for the moment. You know, like, they're not just great basketball people. They're great broadcasters. And they let me have that moment. And and let me call that and tear knows. And and if it was any other announcer to they would have done that it's not I'm not special in that regard. They respect the call, and they respect the broadcast. They respect the medium in which we're working, and I just appreciate them so much for all of those reasons and more than just that. Yeah. You mentioned respect. And one thing I admire about you in the way you've conducted yourself. Self since becoming a larger part of of the women's basketball space is that you know, when I first started my career, and this is just to be blunt, and this is not necessarily ESPN. I mean, I I was working like regional smaller game likes to work radio. But play by play guys would show up if it was women's basketball. It was like, oh, well, no one's really going to be watching this. So, you know, the level preparation, which is different you know, and how they respected the game was just different than if they were calling a game at referee. No for the men or you know, if they had a coach K game, and they were calling Duke, and that was a that was a challenge for me made me better earlier in my career. But I I always knew that I had to come in with the most knowledge, right? I had to come in. And and the the women's basketball expert, you have respected the game. You have just bought a professionalism to to that position. Tell us about that phone call I receiving the call that you would be sitting in that chair calling the women's final four. Man. I mean, I thank you very much as very generous of you say, I I it was Tober of last year so twenty seventeen and I was getting ready for a playoff baseball game. But I was doing on the radio that night. And I it we're not crass or anything. I literally just got out of the shower, and I'm like trying to dry up. I gotta go. And like my phone rings. And I see David cipher who's are Li coordinating producer for college basketball ESPN, and I'm like, well, if he's calling and it's Tober this is probably kind of important. So I I'm sitting there like trying to dry off while I'm answering the phone and like I put him on speaker. And I'm probably yelling just trying to avoid tripping on the floor and wet bathroom. So I just remember picking up the phone and him saying, hey, man, just wanted to catch up by the way, you know, you're going to be back on Thursdays for the American conference. That's compensated cover the pet the previous season. And and and and it was not a question. It was more of a oh. By the way, you're doing the women's final four. It was not a question. Do how to do it. It was a this is your assignment. And as soon as he said that I'm like, all right? I'm in. It's I almost fell over again trying not to slip in the on the bathroom floor. But like, I was really just pump for something like that. 'cause. To me. It's it's the the level of game that that is like your that's an important thing for us at. Yes. And and I I really I'm sure some people may not understand that. Or if they're on the outside looking in they wouldn't necessarily assume that, but internally for us for our bosses like that's a big deal. That's a big event. And that is a that that is a privilege to be part of that. And I took that like I took it as that as a privilege from the from the phone call. So for me that meant all right? It's time to get ready, and it's kinda get brushed up because I hadn't called like women's games much for probably about three seasons. I got a bunch of Sunday games for a long time with Maria Taylor and swin cash, and I've called games of the anti land. Or so like, I like I experienced with it. But it was just the cat. You know, five or six Sundays now, it's like, no, you're you're you got to be a champion of this sport. You have to be a an expert in. Some ways obviously, I defer to CARA Rebecca and Holly as well. Because they know the sport better than I do. But I'm gonna make sure that I bring the information that I'm supposed to have that Intel like if Dan Schulman is calling Virginia Duke on a Saturday night, you expect Dan and Jay Bilas and Maria Taylor to be experts about men's college basketball. Yeah, that's the level of game that we're giving. So it's my job terrors job Rebecca's job and Holly's job and anybody else that fits in our chairs or your chair or anybody else's chair? We are supposed to be experts on that. So that's that was my mentality from the start. And I hope that continues to be the mentality. At least I hope that's how it comes off. When we do the broadcast. It totally comes off. I mean in that you care, and then there's you know, there's multiple levels to it. And you know, I'll say to you what I said before we got on was, you know, I've heard you talk about writers who cover women's basketball and calling out, you know, their articles on air. You've definitely mentioned our podcast, which we appreciate their their levels too. Which? You can be an expert in. I just feel like you have gone the extra mile in therefore have just earned the respect of the women's basketball Fain, and we definitely appreciate that. So we're gonna talk about some of the teams that you've seen so far this year and just your overall thoughts. But I I just wanna talk about your journey right in broadcasting. I mean, you're you're a baby Adam. When I look at everything that you've accomplished like you join the speed at twenty four years old like you are a baby yet you've done so much. I mean, Saturday college football on ESPN ABC the women's final four as we talked about NBA MLB coverage you hosted him in been on play by play duties for the women's college World Series and all American game the Nathan's hot dog eating contest which back to wrestling volleyball baseball championships. When did you know you wanted to do this? And what do you see when you think about your journey to this point? I I didn't know that. This was a job, you know. Like, I I know I've got a lot of friends in this business. And I'm sure you do too that say, you know, I was I was seven years old. And I knew that this is what I was going to do. I was not one of those people I Jack of all trades master of nothing in highschool plates for late instrument choir theatre, all that stuff. Played violin. I didn't know what I wanted to do. I didn't know what I liked that. I know what I was going to be good at. I don't know. I had no clue. So somebody threw me a lifeline a friend of mine that I'd gone to high school with he was going to belfries and university and was the general manager of the student radio station, and I messed around with broadcasting in high school, and he said, listen if you wanna try it come here. I'll put you on the air if you don't like it, you know, you know, you can figure it out afterwards. But you know, if you wanna do this like come here. I'll I'll I'll give you a shot. And I was like all right. So here we go we go to Valparaiso university. And I walk into the student radio station. And I'd say, my my friend can told me to come in here. What do I do? And I. Never left, and I it was about a year into it. My sophomore year nineteen years old. And I thought you know, what I think this is it I think this is what I wanna do. I wanna be broadcaster. And I never would have thought in any capacity that, you know, five years after that, I would've been on national TV or do it national radio bowl games. MLB? I never expected anything like that. I'd hope for it I- goals for it. Like, we all do. But I never would have assumed that that was ever going to be the case. So it's still I mean, I I guess I am kind of a baby in this. I'm thirty two. Now, you know, it's it's it's been a lot of mileage, but I still feel like I got a long way to go. I hope I have a long way to go. So I it's all it's all gravy at this point. Like, I never would have thought that this is possible. So it's it's pretty cool. That's awesome. I always love to hear people journey, and I was one of those those as well, Adam where I was like trying to be everything and didn't even know could be. A basketball analyst until I was in my late twenties. So I was like just getting started where you are now. But he was like, you know, I kind of feel like when you were born to do something, and you just have a natural ability. You know, not only in you know, your voice, obviously, which is important in our field. But you know, you just you fit it in so many ways, and I love all you on Twitter. What give Twitter fans, you're you're handle? Is it just at Adam Amine right at just at ADEMA mean if you look at it now, you'll find you'll find photos from my TV watching a the Jackson's and American. Yeah. Because you because I love that you get you know, you get into the culture of it too. Right. Like, you understand a little bit of everything so fast. You should definitely be following. Adam don't forget that you could be one of the first to get our podcast. If you subscribe, and there's tons of places you can subscribe on the ESPN app. If you have apple podcasts wherever you get your podcast. Just go in search around the rim hit the subscribe button. And you'll be the first to hear from Torika. I with the hottest latest and greatest in what's going on in women's basketball. Also, you can track with us on Twitter. If you have comments concerns suggestions questions, you can hit us up at around the rim pot on Twitter. You can also Email us at around the rim podcast at g mail dot com. My Twitter handle is atlas China Robinson to Rica's Twitter handle is at she knows sports underscore. We appreciate you loving women's basketball continue to tune in. And hey, we've got more with around the rim podcast right after this break. Stick with us. Now when you look at women's basketball this year you've gotten to see some of the top teams. Right. The the Notre Dame's of the world, the Lua voles, you know, Connecticut. What are you seeing? What are your observations of kind of what you're seeing this year? What your thoughts are just overall on you know, especially that top part of the field. You know? And obviously, we're we're a little spoiled because we get to see more often than not the elite of the elite. You know, typically we're looking at top ten top fifteen teams on a week to week basis. So we're seeing the teams that we honestly believe have a have. I don't want to say more legitimate than any other. But probably the best shot in our estimation. Based on their roster makeup based on coaching based on the talent that's on the floor and based on depth. I we get a chance to see those teams pretty much every week. Well, you know, I just got back from seeing Yukon and South Carolina. We're going to be in Corvallis next week for Oregon, Oregon state, which should be a phenomenal atmosphere. So the thing I noticed the most I think is the teams that match up well with certain clubs don't match up well with others. I look at a team like Yukon still having some trouble with posts, you know, teams that have posts that can run the floor the they've given uconn problems as we saw with Sam during a blue of what we saw kalani Brown of of Baylor. Give you cons. Some trouble. I think the death is still in question for a lot of teams how deep can somebody's head coaches go into their rotation. Can you go seven or eight deep and that doesn't sound like a whole lot? But in this sport this year with this level of Terry. If you go seven or eight deep that is a huge advantage that I think teams like, you know, Notre Dame has that advantage this year compared to where they were a year ago. Baylor has got that I never would've thought Mississippi State was going to be a part of that based on everything they lost a year ago, but they've shown that level of Louisville obviously, and what we've seen from Oregon over the course of this season. So I think those are the things that kind of stick out as as the separators the great separators for the teams that we really believe have a shot at a national championship. And I and I'd be curious what you think about this with China 'cause I we all have this sense. And you know, you you've had a deeper history in this sport than I have it seems like there are more teams this year than yours. Past where we really feel like you know, what that team could win a title bat team to win a title. It's maybe five six baby even seventeenth. I have a legit shot at this. Oh, no doubt. I mean, and you nail on the head when it comes to death. I think experience has been a separator, but we're just seeing some fantastic coaching. I mean, look at work in the other look, the Oregon the other day Kelly grades, and what they did at Stanford at Stanford that just doesn't happen, right? And so we're seeing implant was was was incredible. Oh, yeah. I mean in that is not what we've been saying about Oregon past years, right? It's like you gotta be able to score. But now they're actually playing some defense. But you're you're right. I mean, look at what you Conde last night in terms of death. I mean, Gino benched his whole bench in the first half, you know, and it's kind of like, okay. These are the guys were working with and we're going to move forward. And I was having an interesting conversation with one of my colleagues this morning on a conference call and she was saying she doesn't feel like she's ever bid at a place in the women's basketball. We're everyone's Ross. Stir is so short. So when you do have a little bit more like if you're an NC state, you've already lost two huge actually three if you think about their point guard their starting point guard coming if you've already lost three big pieces like how far can you go? How far would that get you? Well, they hit a place in the ACC schedule where they needed that dip and didn't have it in. So you see you saw them lose a couple the small margin for error. But I agree with you in that. I I mean, the elite teams are really Li every week when I do my AP poll, I can get very very clearly through about out say six seventeen at the top. And then I start to get a little confused, then I'm like, I don't know can come after this to be honest with you. You know what I mean? So there's there's definitely separation definitely separation there. So in looking forward to what we have in Tampa this year gift fans, just any idea of what your schedule is like at the final four what you look forward to most kind of those non game things, you know, that they may not know or see on the surface about what you enjoy about that entire process of, you know, the final four all the way through the championship. You know, this is still a sport. And I and again, I don't I certainly don't want to overstep my violence when I speak about this is strictly come at this from the perspective of covering men's college basketball and a bunch of pro sports, right and uncovering college football as well. We have a tendency to not get the same level of access in those sports as we do in women's basketball. I covered college softball, and it's not necessarily even just the access because some of that is a requirement for teams when you get to the NCAA tournament when he gets to the final four you get to the semi finals, or whatever sport you're playing, but the the level of openness of these coaches is just tremendous to me so one of my favorite parts of covering the final four last year. And this has been one of my favorite parts of covering bigger events. General is the time the day that we get to just talk with the teams, and we're in a little room. And it's just the announcers. And it's just the the players there might be a couple of other people in their you know, they have to tape something or if they're just documenting. And maybe it's an SSD for team. But that Wednesday, I guess now, you know, now is a new schedule. It's Wednesday that we get a chance to go in with all four teams separated from the coaches, and we just get the talk, and we just get to learn about these players a little bit deeper, and we know a lot of these players because we've covered on the various points of the season. But it's just nice to have that time with them. To learn something to get a sense of their mentality to be able to humanize them a little bit on the air, and to really get people a sense for those who haven't walked in to a college basketball games during the season, but are going to tune into the final four, they wanna know the personality. They wanna know what kind of team is Oregon. What kind of team is Yukon what kind of team is Notre Dame Louisville Mississippi State at cetera et cetera. They wanna know what can I expect? What I heard on my TV? And how is that gonna? Relate to the other team that they're playing it. How did these dots? All connect. And a big reason that we can explain those things and certainly from my perspective, not knowing the X is not worried about the Xs and os like carrot Rebecca are for me. Connecting those dots essential to that is being able to sit down with them. And then we get the time with the coaches, and then we get just the build up to that is great. And I love the the preparation process. So for me that Wednesday at the final four is awesome. And I love that part of the process Thursday or the closed practices. Karen, Rebecca and Holly. And there I actually don't go to the close practices. I stay in my hotel room. And I work on all my notes, I put all my information together. So I feel comfortable and ready to go on Friday. And then that production meeting we have this huge production beating for the final four the night before on Thursday night. And it's all these ideas getting tossed out and the way we're going to structure the open, and what are we gonna talk about what's important? And what what's great story that we have what's. Great staff that we might wanna talk about. And and just everything coming together to close out that process before the light goes on. We actually start talking about the game. I love the build up to that. So that was just really fun for me. And I know that's been fun for Carro, Rebecca Holly, our producer director, Jim Jim zarroli and Jimmy Platt and our entire crew we love that process. So that's that's really fun for me. You know, hearing you even to say you love the prep process. He fans would be amazed. And maybe it's the fans to but how many people that don't understand that we prepare for games? Like, I can't tell you. I've had to tell my mom on several occasions. My mom is like, so what are you gonna do all that time until the game starts, and I'm like mine, I'm going to study. And how about I've been studying for the last few days how about I actually started studying for this game last week? Like, hello. You know, like there is film to be watched articles read interviews to read stats to crunch. I mean, you have to know those two teams you need to know the conference you need to know what that means to the national landscape, what's at stake. I mean player tendencies, I it's there's so much that goes into prepare for a game. And so I appreciate that. Thank you for sharing that there is more guys case auto know, we're working, and we don't just show up and get to call a grey game. There's work that goes into it. We'll add to let you go. But before I let you go. I have to I have to hear about this Nathan's hot dog eating contest because I'm sure that our women's basketball fans are just chomping at the bit. What is it like to call that event or to host out of it? You know, what it's not that different in the process like you have to do the same thing. There's articles to be read believe it or not. There are sticks to be crunched for things. What are statistics tell me, no records world records like like, the most of this particular competitor has as not down at Nathan's. All right C sixty hot dogs at your ago. They've passed their personal record this year the world record seventy four that we got a chance to call last year. So the process of preparation is very similar, and then when we get into it. It's a ten minute event. I've got a great analyst next to me names. Rich shea who is one of the founders co founders of major league eating, and that is the actual government petted. He got. It's the same thing. I swear to you, you you, you know, a little bit of history, you know, a little bit of personal information, you know, some sad. And then you just call it like like as it happens in front of you like we do anything else. Do they get down to like how many bytes it takes you like or those stats that they would take like did they get that specific where they like he told him that? I'm gonna have to pitch that now. Yeah. I think probably want to go next level next staff. When we go advanced metrics, I think we're gonna have to start tracking. Hey analytics are in right now. Okay. I need to know how many chops are they taking how many bytes per hotdog. Can you can you cut down on that? I I've got some ideas. Now that you've started talking stats, I think I can help out a little bit of that area. Oh, yes, for sure. Well, thank you so much. This has been delightful. I've always enjoyed my interactions with you. You're just a genuine person who obviously has a very strong feel for who you are in the world. But also what you do for for work and just want to say, thanks. We have the women's basketball population out here for the work. You do and we are looking forward to not only the games you have left or the regular season but to Tampa 'cause it's gonna be hot at or we're getting on a boat. So get ready to go. He's going down. Thanks, adam. And we appreciate you joining us. All right fans. We appreciate you tuning in and listening to the show this week. I told you that I would close with a conversation about my more. If you have not been paying attention. My more made an announcement that she will not be playing in the WNBA this summer, which is obviously a shock to many people. And for those of us that love watching my more play. You know, we were said we're not going to see her play this summer. But I I would ask that you would go in read the article called the shift that she wrote in the player's Tribune where my talked about just taking on some different things. She didn't she didn't not say this was about rest Maya talked about having a purpose beyond what she does as a basketball player. Those of you that follow. My more knows that she's a woman of great faith. She talked about, you know, God. And what she feels like her responsibility is through her spiritual faith in terms of reaching people in in going beyond. You know, what she does as a basketball player to try to reach people to help others to spread her faith. And so I just want to send a note of courage to anyone that maybe thinking about doing something different. Maybe thinking about making a change in your life. Maybe thinking that. Hey, you know, I I just feel this pull. To to help this group of people or to to do this in my career, whatever it may be have courage. That's the one that comes to mind when I think about what Maya did because. Yeah, they're going to be people that are disappointed in her her team. You know, the fans because they want to see a play. But everyone cares about Maya as a person. And if this is what's going to make her feel whole complete or that, she is fulfilling her life purpose who am I who are we my has given us some of the greatest moments that I've ever seen in sport four WNBA championships championships with Yukon, I mean, she is carried this sport to another level. The first woman of Jordan and just an overall great person so sending love and thoughts to Maya in just thanking her for her courage. But also to anyone else that may be in a position where you feel a tug in your heart to make a change. Do you? Do you? At the end of the day. You will never regret listening to your own self to your own intuition to your own compass. Finding your true north sending a shot out in lots of love to my more. And with that fans, we're done today show. We hope you tune in next week. We'll be here hopefully to Rikaby back. You know, we never know what she's gonna do. But we appreciate he listening to around the rim. We'll see you next time. Thanks guy. Re anytime rookies girls, keep your head up ruckers all day, see, vivid. That's where coury stay at the case chatty questions. That's a c we'll be keeping an eye on them in the next few weeks as well. Thank you guys piece. You for listening to round the rip checkout more podcasts from ESPN on the ESPN. Paul.

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Number controls, safety nets, community contribution

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Number controls, safety nets, community contribution

"It's the one key show will admissions and student numbers and things. We'll talk about assessment and graduation and risks for students at the civic role of universities. Suddenly per important someone out of thinking about them. So we're coming up. I think government kind of you know has very very quickly realized that the policy frameworks that it has put in place in support over. The last decade are in many ways the worst possible preparation. For the time that we're experiencing now is the time to come and I think we've often made the point. The higher education escaped the worst. Welcome to the one key show. You'll week this week's higher education news policy and Analysis Sandra Dickinson up in the attic. And here to help us make sense of this week. Stuff as usually we have a couple of guests in Burke instead and store. These five stained procession responsibility for the Faculty of Humanities in the University of Bunch of the. You'll reasons to be cheerful this week. Well Mars for was definitely find too that I was going to do. It won't keep podcast with a couple of fellow West midlanders. This regional edition of new shows. Kind of the primary candidates aren't available. Regular listeners will be surprised to learn that second guest. This week is Selena Bolingbrook. He was on the on a couple of weeks. Ago as I'm DC. We could not resist the opportunity to reunite the West Midland's massive so eight gravesend Selena raves lead for extended and strategic development at Goldsmiths University of London. Selena your reasons which April reasons to be cheerful. Obviously we're having to dig deep this week. I thought I thought my reasons to be cheerful. Was I did a sign up like I'm sure many of the people have to be an ATS volunteer. So Tuesday was my day when I was free and titled Myself on duty on the APP and then sat there. I had an extra egg on my breakfast. That morning of my rations just saw was fit and ready and then nobody called on me so I wasn't very cheerful and so probably the only thing I can think of is made me smile this week is I found in my cellar. A an open. Pack of thirty Mil cable ties and cable ties. Always make me feel safe because there is no job. There isn't improved by the addition of the cable tie so yes we start this week with the news. Student number controls might be on the way back. The Guardian reported on a meeting of the board. That disgust admissions practicing universities. Andy talked about this for yes. So you're right. This is the The big policy story rippling round English higher education kind of this week. It's the return of the likely return of some form of number controls. I'm sitting across this autumn's recruitment obviously which is off recruiting season. That's that's already kicking off at the moment and I think you know. There are three three things driving driving this. This story the first helplessly as the Koran Corona virus and the uncertainty that that's bringing to when the autumn term starts but also to the exams that year. Thirteen students are aren't sitting and other qualifications. But that's on top of a rampant h. e. market where the market based reforms enhancing competition replaces uncoupling of places has has really kind of set us in competition against each other. So when there's when there's uncertainty stemming from international recruitment in particular and QA released a survey overnight talking about the number of international students globally. He was still sticking to their plans and they report. The only fourteen percent are planning to enroll as planned so this is a huge change to to English education that so utterly dependent on on an international recruitment as and what lots of universities throughout the sector of have raised their concerns about is that these ripples are going to go through the rest of the sector those selective institutions in the Russell Group and elsewhere are going to take more from the domestic applicant market than they might normally do. And that's GONNA put some places into more more risk than they might ordinarily have been facing. It gets worse. The financial risk for this for the sector gets worse. The longer lockdown and the physical closure of university campuses goes on. So it's something that you know. Lots of different universities right across the sector are getting increasingly worried about their first opportunity to really so change. The incompatible is recruitment this summer. So you know so. There's a huge amount of pressure on it. It looks very likely to happen and I have to say. I think it's very sensible that it happens Chris husbands the Sheffield Hallam wrote on happy last week. Which proposed soft cap based on plus five percent of an institution recruitment average over the last three years? Which seems like a pretty a pretty sensible place to start. It's it's not clear where where the S. D. F. will end up but I think it's I think it's it's certainly very sensible for them to be looking at it and I think kind of as far as the government's concerned they've intervened in every other market so even though we've been used to fairly rampant and accelerating market in higher education. It's no surprise that a government previously committed to that policy. Agenda is beginning to kind of change. It's mind over. Sort of those medium measures that it might have to do to shore up the sector. I think to to sort of last thoughts really by way of introduction. One is there are there are two big agendas for the government here that they need to be thinking about the long term for one is is the leveling up agenda so it's their their commitment headlining the budget which was only a couple of weeks ago where they want to address and reduce regional inequality which is a big big issue in in the UK economy And the second is support for Science and research and I think you know that. Also headlining the budget. And it's clear that kind of this government doesn't want to see a capabilities in either of those areas irreparably damaged because of kind of the market in student recruitment so this brings both Russell Group Institutions Post Ninety. Two's and everybody else. In the sector into the SCOPE. For Four for policymakers to think about what we want to preserve here and the very kind of final points. I would make. Is that suddenly? The Office for students is becoming even more like half the every day which are suspect is also pretty good thing Selena. Obviously the principle it's being thrown around and discuss these is the idea of attempting to at least to spread the pain around the sector. If everyone suffers pain does everyone. There needs some actual treatment in terms of financial support. You know what are the kind of are the numbers that people around the sector that our senior are thinking about. I think the numbers are absolutely I watering and I think it is pain for everybody. I think that at the moment the attention is on international students. And what the drop might look like. Sandy said the survey that came overnight. I mean I I think it would be optimistic to start doing scenario model fifty percent of those previously plan to come. I think more realistic in the range of ten twenty percent but I think the fears that international students have in the actual obviously fissile physical controls in some cases of international students being able to go to the university and Country of choice. We haven't yet started talking about what the impact might be on the domestic market. I think certainly some people. I've talked to who've got young people in their household who were thinking about going to university. Next year they feel uncertain. Very unsure about whether it next year is the right thing at the right time for them to go. So I think isn't just. The international students at universities will be worried about. It will be their home. Uk students as well and in which case it is pain across everybody and it is pain of a magnitude that we will have not seen before. And I think in that context yes I think student number controls is the one area where the government through our can exert some control but actually is a little bit like fiddling round the edges. I think is going to look like that. In retrospect but as anti says this is something that's going to require a level of intervention but use the term bail a level of interaction intervention across the sector in a way that we've not seen before I suppose the question from public policy point of view is where do we sit in that queue of people of sectors with their their begging bowls. A we can be in their top ten or even their top twenty i. I'm not so sure I think the one thing it does expose. Is I think something that you know. Some of US have a fit for a long time. But it's the fragility of trying to pull a marketing framework onto a higher education sector. And I think this is the time that we will have to think. About what the what? The quid pro quo. As if there is going to be the kind of national support for our university sector. Then what will be expected in the long-term at to pay that day? I'm obviously there's been lots of focus on England's but the the the potential collapse international students has a massive impact on you know slightly less depending on which you look at market is nations. Yeah and you know. There's been a story this week. In the Times about Scottish universities rising that already with the government and and of course in in Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland to an extent. You've got a very different relationship between universities and public funding and kind of the way the states is operating in the Nhl those places but the essential story is the same. This is this is something that that I think I think government kind of very very quickly realized that the policy frameworks that it. It has put in place in supported over. The last decade are in many ways the worst possible preparation. For the time that we're experiencing now is the time to come and I think we've often made the point. That higher education escaped the worst of austerity and some universities in the sector have become awash with cash and have done very well active a change in approach to number controls and competition and all the rest of it but what it does show is the is that these the finances of all these organizations that have been pursuing that policy agenda are incredibly finely balanced and incredibly fragile was a fantastic piece written this week by Chris Cook. You're used to be the education correspondence at the after. You now. Works for Tortoise. Great News Organization. Doing some really interesting stuff in the context of the NHS. He talks about you know. Government policy based on competition on productivity particularly the public sector is created this kind of fragility a fragile state which means that things are very very quickly vulnerable in circumstances that don't suit and I think that's what we saying that's what we're likely to see in higher education with some very well established very kind of you know high reputation institutions the longer this longer. This lock down and the uncertainty around. It goes on so it just shows kind of how finely balanced our business models and the policy networks and context that have supported it have have left the sector. How quickly that can descend back into a situation of real risk selena? Let's say that you know a a waste found on on the finances. What are the things that people have been talking about all week as you know? What would Kind of online only September. Look like he's not actually viable that sort of you know that kind of scenario that people in working up that says you know social distancing will still be huge in September. So we'll plan to their everything on online. For the first time I I think different learners would have different reactions to this. I think for the majority of young learners eighteen to twenty four year old staple of most universities full-time students. I don't think that it is. It's definitely not a like for like in terms of student experience. I have to say I've got my own twenty one year olds and when we when we call upon facetime last week. I asked her what she was missing. You know. The first thing she said was the pub took her a while and then she said Yeah. I'm kinda seeing your mother as well but without being too kind of trivialize it too much. The social side of university for a lot of our students and social not just at the pope but the engagement with one another the social interaction is not just a big part of their social experience. It's an incredibly important part of their learning experience. I've always had the view that learning is essentially a social activity for really deep learning in particular until I in for those reasons. I don't think that is going to be something that is can just be addressed through doing what we do now. I'm moving that online. I think in some cases the quality of what we've done has been amazing over the last couple of weeks as temporary fix but I think you know all of us would take a step back as teachers and say is that really the best kind of learning activities that we can have for learning outcomes that we have previously attack. I think there are another group of students. I was talking to a vice chancellor last week. Who was telling me that when they looked at their engagement analytics from their various online platforms that for a certain group students commuting students. They had found higher levels of engagement than they previously had when the campus was open and I thought that was quite interesting. Life is often a relative game less time on the bus yes spent less time on but also I think suddenly realize in a lot of the things that they might have been doing that. We're exceptional before they were doing alone. Actually they know probably had a better sense of student community. Who were doing the kind of things that they had previously. Been trying to do to keep learning up so. I think that they might be the people who who would cope best. But I just think that. It's not a credible alternative. It's it's a stopgap and I think there will be people in the sector who are thinking. We'd rather delay than to just put up an online off of the first term starting in October and I think we do have sufficient time in our calendar year the way the academic year works. I think there are things that we can do. Potentially to trunk eight terms to have less holiday time to have faster. Cessna turnaround the football season. I tend to think that I want to finish the season at all costs and even if it means we start two thousand twenty one a couple of months months late then so be it but I think in terms of the way in which we need to think about a response I think number one. We need to start operating collaboratively as a sector you know the role of university. Uk In terms of building that collaboration and not leaving to the various sort of mission mission. Grapes is incredibly important. I think number two. We need to separate. What is the short term? Get Get us through response for more is the long term because I think like every other sector there are some aspects of this crisis that will stay with us for much longer than the viruses about and just before we just just before we move on this thing about just to bring it full circle this thing about the kind of the role of national agencies national leadership. There's a couple of a student union presidents on the on the side this morning assigned. Competition is unhelpful. Chevy in universities along by announcing expectations to students in laterally some helpful and being over cautious about not centrally prescribing approach. He's he's also unhelpful. Has something changed around competition and the role of facet q? I and so on something changed here. That means a significant. Dampening down of competition autonomic. I think Tom is a another point entirely. I think I think you know this is a an existential moment for not just institutions of Selena. Said you know. What do we prioritize? What are we for? And how do we achieve all of the things that we need to achieve? But I think it's pretty existential moment for all of those agencies a national organizations including the about. What'S THE RIGHT. What's the right kind of policy context and the right operating sorts of agency landscape to kind of make this happen? And as I said in the introduction I think you know we we've been watching. I guess over time the sort of step back from the the Joe Johnson Model of absolute competition no real interested institutions themselves no real interest in place in regions and sectors. You know utterly Kinda straight back to to return to that kind of agency that needs to act much more in the way that he did. You know what's the right balance between institutions and and student interest? What's the right Forward-looking capability you want to build into and preserve within the sector. So I think this is a big moment. I very much doubt. We'll see the kind of end of competition entirely. I don't think this is going to be one of those things that completely changed. The world from top to bottom competition existed before twenty twelve the mushroom kind of policy reforms that have created. You know what we what we exist in today in England but you know it's clearly going to be so to push back the world that this government kind of came into power. I'm particularly kind of you know. After the election in December the world that they thought they were creating es is going to be very different. The way that they are going to act is going to be very different kinds of institutions that they didn't have much faith in when they kind of you know when they came into power suddenly. They've got more faith in having to use them every day that includes university scientific advice the BBC civil service and you know the world is the world is changing pretty rapidly. But I think it's also worth saying can you know this government kind of already had it stance about competition so I went over to by the leveling up agenda. It's clear that you couldn't really achieve all of those things given that kind of competition and market framework that the case was was kind of established to oversee. So I think I think there are a lot of universities and there are a lot of university agencies higher education agencies. That will be taking a long hard look at themselves and asking whether they are are set up in the right way not just for handling the crisis as it hits us today but for the world that comes after it great. Let's see who's been blogging for US This Week. High is me to jump the implying. Padron headed education at Shakespeare multo. I'm ready to piece this week for one key about the impacts of Consumer Protection Law In the context of the current public health emergency And it's obviously really important for institutions trying to manage this risk whilst at the same time trying to implement Quite significant changes to how they deliver their services to students so the main points that I want to emphasize in my piece are that That there will be ramifications depending on what's in institutional terms and conditions and it's really important that institutions think widely and carefully and. Listen to students about the changes that they're making right now now next up when you're in a crisis get people to save the. That's what the text books I and this week. A wave of student petition. Signing on assessment safety nets swept the sector Selena. Tell us more. Yeah and so the not just the student movement but universities I think over the last couple of weeks have been very focused on starting to think about what these no detriment or safety. Net policies are look like in terms of assessments particularly final year. Assessments The principle being that no no student should receive a degree classification. That's worse than performance in their degree so far but the academic regulations that people that universities have they have not perhaps been completely adequate and sufficient in terms of dealing with the current situation so many academic boards and Senate's will have been looking at you know revised exceptional academic regulations to provide the kind of safety net. The students require but I think it's raised all sorts of issues and it's not just about the safety net in terms of assessment. Although that is the short term task I think in the longer term we start to think about what kind of assurances as universities we can provide to students that will rian roll with us next share and as we mentioned we'll discuss discuss instinct number controls new student so the adequacy of student protection plans has also been something that people are starting to think. I think probably in a nutshell. What would say about Shooting Protection Pansies? They are you know they are not designed to deal with crisis of this magnitude as so much else in the world. We are discovering so in some sense it almost seems just a complete waste of time and effort to start to kind of do a critique of individual institutional student protection plans. This is where we require again. A sector response no individual institution can really adequately protect all of its students not least because so many. Sap's predicated on the basis of an individual institution failing and therefore looking to another institution to take on responsibility for their students and as we said they will not be an institution that is unaffected by this crisis. So where do people look to I think that one of the things that I it again. I risk of repeating myself. It goes back to this point. Which is we just start to see. How fragile individual institutions are as a system? You know what we need is a national system. I think we look to other parts of the UK. We look to other European countries to see. I think the level of assurance that those national systems have been able provide their students and I think empire academics are academic staff. I think fails entirely different. I think that they are much more able to focus on solving this problem. As a short term issue knowing that the fundamental demand for higher education will be unaffected in the long term. It may need to change in terms of the kind of proficiencies there. I think it just shows that within the English system we taken ourselves to a place that makes it incredibly difficult to formulate sector responses and I think that student protection plans are. We're never going to be the vehicle that were capable of alleviate in the risks of continuation of study faced by students. And what what what what should we do even if we just take the English system you know. There's a long tail of providers on that Fx Register. What what what should we do to offer some assurance to she didn't see might be re enrolling in a provider that seventy hundred and fifty students? You know about about about the studies in that ring. Them incurring Jewish in fact that well. I mean on student protection plans. I'm not sure designed for the world before the crisis. But that's a that's a whole other discussion that you can probably find on previous podcasts. I look I think I think if you take the approach that the government has had so far in the other areas look at employment look kind of businesses. They've been they've been bold. I think the treasury and Richie Sue Knack of done particularly well. I'm they've done things particularly quickly. And you have to look at where the Chestnut Department of Health is at the moment and you can see how how well the treasury and how quickly they moved but you know taking the Treasury as an example that they've been very clear that that have not been able to help everybody in every organization and I think could have you know there's a there's a. There's got to be a elements of realism and pragmatism here and that long tail of institutions. Some of which only just come into the sector some of which are vulnerable because of those small numbers. It sounds terribly. Come down within that. They're not going to be the priority and I think. Can you know given given this a of setting priorities and preserving kind of those institutions are going to be the most important? I'm preserving kind of you know. The experience of students in the rights of students within those. I'm afraid you've got you've got to take that view if it's eighty percent of institutions on the register that it's eighty percents of institutions on the register. And I think you know and the institutions themselves have got to be pretty honest with a with students and with applicants. The that's going to be the case and Selena. This is a fascinating question. Isn't it so secret life for students? How do we have actually run the event one of the things we were? GonNa talk about with student safety. Really broadly and we were going to ask the question. Low easy the role of institutions to warn students about dangers in his way parts of the compass. Dark or if you do X. Y. Inside you'll more likely to be stressed and so on or is it the role of institutions to eradicate dangers. Bit more parental. And I guess you know there's a big question for affects coming into September eats role to sort of you know assess some riskier institutions inside Yukon Upright and caused chaos. Or is he eats. Roll decide to students. These other riskier institutions financially. Or should it back off and just try and help? I mean that's a bridge. That's a tough call for the regulator. I think it's a tough call for the regulate Aaron. I think this is when you you realize that it's again. There is also failings in the way in which was set up in terms of the room that they have because I think to follow through on what was in the higher education research at two in a very purist way then yes. It's their responsibility to advise students in the public. Those institutions that are facing financial risk. But when it is a situation that all of them or most of them would fall into that category then. The actual medicine becomes worse than the disease. That they're trying to mitigate so. I think that I actually think people need to put their hands up and I think they need to kind of treat people as adults and admit where limitations of what would have been the every day ordinary cheaters are just not going to cover this and I think that there is a this is why I think the kind of just have to be a national response to this. There has to be government intervention if there is any sense that the higher higher education experience over the next academic year can be truly dearest from a student perspective because I think otherwise. What will happen is sort of set earlier in our discussion about student but controls. I think there is a real fair. The home students will defer in very large numbers. And I think that you know there are universities who have not got huge reserves. There are a few that perhaps could get through very very dry year but most universities not in a position either in terms of the research that they have all the kind of lending facilities that they would need and in that case. I think that the cost of a later bailout would be so much more than the cost of go. I wrote burst protection. Plan that came directly from the anti just to bring us back a full circle. One of the one of the things I know has been happening over the past couple of weeks. He's there has been some nervousness in some institutions around now detriment because you know some institutions are being watched very closely on the basis of grade inflation and the hasn't been a particularly strong signal around the interaction between protecting students. No detriment and being under the cultural. You know your your your grade inflation numbers. Yeah it's a good point. I mean I think whether it's great inflation or unconditional offers or kind of a whole bunch of other behaviors. There are institutions. That are worried that the Fed is going to take it in view of what they do in this particular moment which actually I think is unfair. I mean we talked about the context of number controls. I mean all of our conversation this morning about how institutions are going to respond weather domestic kind of demand is going to be anything like you know what we need to get through this period. It's clear that universities are GonNa go are GonNa have to go absolutely flat-out just just to get even close to the three year average of recruitment they might be confronted with. And I think I was GONNA help here. They can't come into this in quite the tinny away at the start of the crisis and say those things matter as much as they did last year and I think that's. That's that's partly our fault. It's partly the fault of the legislation and the kind of policy framework that set them up but they've got adopted. They've got to change pretty quickly. Selena in a new of both mentioned the kind of higher education research too. I mean I think all that already looked a poor piece of legislation in the run-up to December given this government's agenda over kind of you know over not just leveling open competition and science research. But kind of it's it's attitude to have policies maiden enacted. It already looked vulnerable. I think what the crisis will do is put is put that approach to higher education under the spotlight and I wouldn't be surprised if we say a new higher education and Research Act before the end of this parliament that graduate class of twenty two thousand eight a hard time. They have had just to get through university. I mean for for many of them they will also have time to access to career services. Isn't it well? This was going to be my point. I mean not only if these these students hat to defer lack of contact because of industry election then you've got the nineteen crisis. Assessment is the most anxiety provoking activity on campus in normal circumstances. But now you throw this on top of it and then they are going go into a graduate employment market. The again is fundamentally changed. And you know the impact of this. Of course we know will full harder on some students than others and so the kind of task that I think are. Career services have in terms of trying to support students into employment or into into enterprise as many students now wished to do. I think it's really really important that those services are able to sort of double Dane and to put in extra efforts because I think this is the other thing that universities a very conscious of that their job is not just about letting people in. It's not just about entry. It's not just about teaching and it's not just about assessment about graduate outcomes and I think that that's something that again could be an area we've seen in the past when they graduate. Employment market has suffered that it has been an area in the past where there has a public policy and government funding to support different types of interventions of support. Right now he has some fine. I'm stater our and decay has added a dell to see if it gives us any clues on financial sustainability SA- finance open data released or with attracts a lot of tension. But this year the attention is a very different salt. We all love to know how our university and other providers were interested in are doing financially. He says new release maybe for the year before the current one but it helps us put signals and announcements into perspective. The data is easy to read and easy to manipulate far much more. So than your institutional financial report. The general financial position of universities has in the most part deteriorated between twenty seventeen eighteen and twenty eight thousand. Nine hundred do not to increase spending or lower income but to a one off. Pensions costs linked to the two thousand seventeen valuation. He's not a great place to face the oncoming crisis from of course this year our attention has been drawn to the income from international student fees following widespread assumption that the September global cohort will simply fail to appear on the site. I broken down. The income figures by mode and level of study for some providers international fee income dwarves home fee income and postgraduate. Study plays as big a part of this as undergraduate study. Clearly not all of the thing can can or will be made up by increasing home student. Recruitment there's some evidence some providers make a loss and home students topping. These costs and research costs up with international fees a fall. An international student numbers would have widespread repercussions in these cases providers. Lobbyists need really to be thinking about the case for direct state-aided short-to-medium-term rather than an admission cycle that could put many smaller provided out of business and finally many universities claimed to have a civic mission but that claim is truly tested at times of national emergency ending of speed. So yes this this week. We've seen the announcement from from the up foundation that Sheffield Hallam. Second time I mentioned this. Podcast have been awarded the hosting rights for the Civic University Network. And they'll be working with the Institute of Communication of Community Studies and NC CPA. And they're not going to have. Up THEY'RE GONNA have cash from day arts canceling others to to operate this network. So that's fantastic news and I think I think you're right this piece of work but began three years ago now Iran the Civic University and kind of thinking about how important it was what could be done to support in the future has just got more and more important as time has gone on and I think some real credit is due actually to the up foundation to Richard Bruckner in particular but also also pick. Alex Va knee miles at University of Nottingham. Because this was something that can they both spent a lot of time thinking about before it was before it was set up as an initiative and I think in the in the in the moment that we find ourselves in. It's something that is just gathering importance and pace. We know it kind of you know we merited a line in the conservative manifesto we know. The policymakers have become more interested in it. Michelle Donilon when she writes the sector now mentions in every letter and we can see that head of steam just developing but we also just know instinctively that it's the right thing today and you can see in individual universities response to the to the pandemic and kind of what they're doing the the this part of our response is becoming more and more important and I think in in in their hearts institutions know that that is only going to get bigger when this crisis is over so I think you know part of our existential moment that we've already we've already talked about and I think it's something that's going to become more and more important and I think that kind of Sheffield Hallam was an excellent choice Bob. Coz Lake obviously chair of governors there. Chris Husbands has very much been on the front full in in terms of the Civic University agenda and and kind of policy-making in general and I think they will do a brilliant job supporting the sectors as they really begin to take this much more seriously Selena. Lots of positives here. Yeah lots of positives and I think that as well as the examples that we've seen over the last week of individual universities step in up in relation to the covert nineteen crisis in terms of lent in equipment facilities housing blocks. I saw that University of eastland. My old institution was putting over one of its accommodation blocks to hires. Nhs workers the new Nightingale Hospital down at the Excel Centre. I think there's obviously the kind of the volunteering effort as well which is something that has been where universities the steering ten students staff on in twos into local volunteer in networks. These are all great things and I think really emphasized the role that universities can play within communities. I think that I hope is the university is. This isn't just a one off the actually. This is something that as Andy says is is is a change. That is long longer term. I think this is something about tone as well because it's not just having people who all become kind of class in their community for a couple of minutes. I think it's about thinking in a much more fundamental way. About how offer whether it be teaching facilities can orientate itself towards public use in the long term in a much more accessible way. It's something goldsmiths that we thought long and hard about over the last few years because we were relatively small institution. So it's not as if we have ever. It's never been possible. I suppose in many ways just sort of set up a separate community unit you know but we have got across the institution across our academic departments. Lots of lots of different examples where people are able to engage in a really positive way with their community. But I also think this is a real opportunity in the context of the Civic University Network for that to be more partnerships with other education providers particularly Efi colleges because I think they tend to be much much closer to the ground in terms of the communities in nate. Who are most affected? I think is a great opportunity to show how education providers can work together to have real impact in terms of an candidates. So that's about it for this week to find out more about anything we've discussed today you'll find links on the episode page of Wonky Dot Com. Where you can also leave your thoughts and comments that get you can subscribe to a semantically. Just such won't show on your favorite podcast directory. Oil Find The Fiji Need Monkey. Dot Com forward slash podcast? How did you think you've got what it takes me? 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S10 Ep 14: Robbie Williams

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No that was to take that okay. Anyway it's not about us. It's about the international superstar robbie williams tuning in and we going to chat to him. And i can't quite believe if i could have told my thirteen year old self the i would be spending the evening with robbie williams talking about food with my mom. Well i wouldn't have believed it but here we are so robbie. Williams has a new single out called concert. Christmas includes buzzwords such as two meters zoom skype. And it's out now. And i know i'm going to i'm to either swear loads or i'm going to pretend that i'm emily night less. Try not to swear. I'm gonna really try. I'm going to see him big reignited. Whether it's an eternal flame for roy williams. I mean he was on my he was on my wolves. Do i say this team. I feel like some weird thing to say. Oh shit oh. Yeah now so so-called at with butterflies for very. Hi let me. Just get these Airpods things i gave in chocolate. The beginning of the uh and a fall asleep Five o'clock into a really deep sleep and you wake up and you just need sugar. Yeah you know. I've just eaten a massive ball of chocolate. So hopefully i'll be able to work. Some calories of from the chocolate just by talking was asset. I don't know it's sort of like an ask me at ten o'clock tonight question where i think back about it. Be remorseful about what. I did five. Did you stop chocolate in january. While i just you know. I'm trying on different things to to see what fits into see how i can stay. Denault offset the onset of middle age and obesity. Hi i'm robbie williams. I used to take that poppy. Your gorgeous sangster and jesse's going to tell you about all her swooning so i have to just let this. I just have to let you know this now because otherwise it's going to be the elephant in the room and you're going to hear it in the introduction so i loved you you were potentially my i love. It could have been ryan giggs first or it could have been you. I can't remember. It was about the same time. And i loved i loved you. Take that fine. I resented you for a little bit. And then i used to compete with my best friend. Who could cry more concert. I loved you and this is a bit weird for me. And i'm just going to get it out there and now we can be professional. We can be the unicef ambbassador both are we can be peers musical peers. I just had to put it out there. The i loved. You had you my walls at all while while i I'm very happy and honored that in some way you're like. Oh no the no january. Very happy and honored to i saw a facilitated for you your first safe crush where you wouldn't be brokenhearted or you know you did break my heart. What by leaving did you see. I remember. I think i did try and nine on news around. There was a help line. i didn't live. I suppose there was some. There would be some form of separation anxiety. But i didn't. I didn't literally break your heart by being all's hall i felt like the time ropy. That's true didn't feel like that. it didn't feel anyway. Tell us the real reason you laugh. No you can. You can ask that. Okay okay fine. We're going to talk about eight in short. Yeah we had a manager. And i didn't like him and he didn't like me and the only person that would be managed in the group really was gary and a guys with very talented songwriter. A very good friend of mine. We've made up. Because i sense left. Take that and slagged him off for years and years and years. I was so jealous. Not so of. I was jealous and resentful that he was the only person in the band that was being looked after a man. Gary very similar. Because we've kind of in the band with how we write songs. How we present ourselves how we perform and where we want to go with very much A one direction kind person. I don't mean in a hurry styles way with sort of like blinkered where there's no left and there's no right if i was a footballer. I'd be getting that ball and heading it away or had to get into the goal by any means necessary and gas was the same too so all of these things plus cocaine and ecstasy of vodka. And i needed to and had to leave to go and become the person that i thought i could go on and become she did did he definitely got the pool in the back of the net. Rob i did i did. I'm sorry if i'm not making much sense. I'm so he makes absolute sense. You're driven human. You driven that's rights. Now may gary of learn how to share or toys and that's the benefit maturity again and older I love him to pay tonight. I have upmost respect for him. We ride together We'll we'll go and eat together. We hang outs. And i love into bit if you're a footballer. Who would you be. If i was a footballer. Who would Which football team do you support menu. Okay for manchester okay. Well i'd like to think that i'd be eric cantor now but i would actually be gary neville. That's all right. We'll take newly. i'd still be. I'd still be in trouble. Winning teams atia. I have aspirations to be. I can't snow. But actually i would be gary neville. I'll have to talk about eric cantor at soccer aid. And i guess. I've you to thank for that really because you stop. You started so great. But eric snow was that he is the coolest guy in the world. He said you want to have a drink and i. I didn't want to have a drink. She really retired eric. Cantona's asking me if i wanna have a drink. I didn't actually realize. I was like eight weeks pregnant at the time and so i had bloody glass of wine and i sat with him and said nothing typically interesting and maybe try to talk about when he played he was so so kind of philosophical even though we were really really wished. I could've spoken french them but yes he was amazing. So but can we talk about create a little bit. Because i think it's i've been. I've been a part of it for a good few years since i've been working with unicef and it's such an occasion and it's it's such an event and it's it raises so much money and what you've been with unicef effort for twenty years now. I think you're one of the reasons why i chose it. you know. it's my tension. When i was younger person unicef the charity with all the work that you de soccer aid became you'll baby didn't at did become my baby and the reason why i joined unicef and i've remained in embassador over since is because of ian jewelry you know. He enjoying the blockades. And my i'm a massive. Like my lyrical inspiration is a jewelry and a love the bulkheads and my makeup artist who still mumeko today was ian juries makeup artist and he asked her and she asked me and i became a uniform. -buster did all the trips and stuff and One day with mine. Johnny wilks came up with an idea for the soccer aid match and it just took off. You know i was. I was just expect it to be a one off and then it was. Oh and now. We're going to do it every two years and now we do it every one year and it's raised forty seven million. It's an unbelievable few days and and you know it's like nobody kind of sticks out as being an also either because it's very rare that there's like the one person where you kinda lot guy because everybody feels so incredibly lucky and privileged to be of the event. So what's it like living in la with an american woman. Does she know about okay. Yes she does know about cakes. she's very She's very european. she's a francophile. she's in love with france. she speaks french. She speaks italian. She's got a very british sense of humor. she's very naughty. She swears like a trooper fantastic. She's not american with her sensibilities. I mean she does loose women every now and again she. She also doesn't know the bollocks and it down are not words that you can say on british television. And and how did you to me. It was blind dates. Oh what did you eat. Do you remember hope. We didn't need anything just a delivery from my drugs dealer It wasn't i wasn't peckish. So i mean long than the shore of issue came over to the house i just i was. I was three weeks of going into rehab. I was in a very very bad way. And and then she arrived and nyc. I think i i freaked her out she. She had red wine now my wife when she has red wine so of like ballsy. New york jew. She's she's jewish by the way she yeah yeah she's to new she's on the she's like this like she's on the lady petro this either the white wine i'd or the red wine either unlike Red wine i kinda in now. it's a kinda. she's like. Joan rivers basically amazing greenwich she. She's comedian. She is a comedian. That's how she started she. She did comedic acted and did stand up and all of that business so she arise and she's also like ballsy and i arrive and i'm also sort of like Hundred ninety warehouse rave in black. Yeah they kind of saw of we just went and she just come from this party. And i thought to myself i'm going to take to this par- in drop her off and and then leave. But while i was in the car she made me laugh. I'll go in the party with her. And i went into the party with her and we were in the corner of the room looking at the party within the first five minutes of being there we looted at the room and let me look to each other in this moment. Happen and the universe. Just when you've known this person many many many lives you all understood and you are safe. Basically without aucoin afraid. She's the one she's the one he's the one. Do this do this thing now to full. Well yeah but we didn't. We didn't mention that to each other for two years. When i was talking to somebody about how we met and she. Oh my god you follow that too. And i was like yeah. I felt that too. She said. I didn't wanna mention it. Because i didn't want to appear strange but that was an actual moment right and i suggest and this we've been married for we've been together for fifteen years. We've got four kids She is so smart so funny so right all of the time and she makes me feel safe and she is she she is. She is the reason. I have become the person that i am now. I wanna marry her. I'm gonna cry. Actually and i who is think. Every time i talk about i want to cry. Yeah i genuinely she love at that money here. My temples every time. If i'm like in an interview or from talking about my wife to the guys somethin' happens right here in my temples where i'm like. I'm going to cry. Which is Which is a really really special thing to have in in a very very turbulent unsafe world our a source of many tribe. You know this is not saying that people say the nothing outside can affect you. When inside is a safe. I didn't know that one island. That's how i feel. I've not heard i just paraphrase too that that's not the exact words but that's exactly. Our field is nothing out. There can hurt me when i am with her. Oh man she sounds like your fairy fairy godmother. She sounds perfect. Yeah i mean we. We wind each other up when people talk about. You know we have our ups and downs. We actually don't have our ups and dams in the same so away. The people talk about she can annoy the the fuck out of me. And i know sorry. Excuse my language. I know the skews you okay thank you and i know i annoy the fuck out of her too. But i'll tell you what it's sickening. We are so good when there's a problem. We know that within half an hour five minutes. We'll talk through it and we'll be closer than we were before and we'll be holding hands and watching the television and everything will be forgotten and it doesn't make those moments less uncomfortable trying to get to that place where you're comfortable again but somehow every time we do we manage it. I'm an so much like with her. I think there's nothing you can do about love. Love kind of happens to you. Like is a different thing completely and i. I'm heavily in like with my wife. That's so lovely. I wanna know you had a baby this year yes So how's that been. That's the fourth and a lockdown baby. And when when was born was born nine months ago one was bohm's february or march january february march. I said had this. This is the thing that happens on the fourth propane. No i'm going to get all the children's birthdates tattooed you remember. Because i forget absolutely everything. I don't know my wife's birthday to so much. I don't know and it just won't go in. It will not go in the uk. Titians took the two older kids to the opticians. And they were like mr williams. How what's charlton's birthday. And what's the doors birthday to mind if they just call the room a second. Because i didn't want to say in front of them. I don't know hope that's terrible. It is terrible okay. Awesome born on the fourteenth. That's valentine's day. I was born on the thirteenth anyway. I know it's awful but it's really not my fault. I am dislikes numerically dyslexic right. Which means i'm talking bollocks. Can you remember east eight when you were younger. Can you remember that kind of so. What was it like in stoke-on-trent. Your dad had a pub didn't they. Yeah moment dot outta pup so were you eating. the pop. was that fame. My dad actually one new faces in one thousand nine hundred seventy four. I saw him. What's new faces. it's britain's got talent. What was his talent is a comedian. Okay you'll dad's a comedian. He won is round and then went to the final lost in the final but my dad's a comedian. My mom and dad were together there. The poke called the red lion they split up and then my dad went and ran port vale. Social club so he had to his own his own pub in the ground. Did you live with your mom or your dad. I lived with my mom but there was loads of cakes. You know about okay. Yes i do you know about okay. Because we had a mother's how could louise and she came from stoke and she used to go home and bring them back. We used to have them with cheese. Yeah did you like them. They were gorgeous. They were like the best pancakes she could eat. They would just happy lessening now. I see. I wanna take robbie's own pancakes. Oh cakes and send them to the world. You should do i am. I'm gonna do my oh cakes. So okay 'cause there's a stoke-on-trent dot get delicacy. And if i could explain it to you. It is like a pancake but not sweet. It's a savory pancake. Best basically but the texture of it is very. Spongy and lights gorgeous. Gis and georgia you so rapid up with cheese and onion sausage bacon or beans or egg or whatever you like. And they're they're absolutely incredible. Kids like them. The kids absolutely love them to this. Hard to get hold of now aren't they. They are them outside. Stoke-on-trent really can you. That's why rob is going to bring them to the well. I'm about to rectify that. So ropy i want to know what was your mom. Making machine could cook. And what you a fussy eater. Did you love the grub. Then ma i would be whatever if the only thing that. I don't eat olives and capers about it you just tell lightning like them and like people will say. Oh well you like these lives and like like an idiot. I go okay maybe grew and then i'm like no no i i just. I just hate olives. Hype that you've just tried to make me eat well. She'll favorite sorta food while goto. Always like take away food right. Are you the same with with food. I mean ali crooked law. So if you if you win if if if we went to knock down i definitely would force you to come to my house and eat chicken soup. Matza balls would. I would absolutely love that would sedate by the way. We'll do that. Definitely darling oh definitely make it for you. I eat incredibly healthily. And i'm a big believer in fitness and wellbeing butts. My go-to splash. The calories out would be sweet and sour chicken With special fried rice. And then i would have or a colty lamb. Balti love lambo lamb balti dump properly because his what you guys don't know right you guys don't know the you don't have a decent curry house dance. We certainly don't have one in los angeles de europe. Shy actually no no. They are shot in full boats. A northern curry. Probably the best corey on the planet and that would be yeah lamb balti and then these nouns the size of you had yeah. She does nam. Breads like this is way too much. But i'll take some home and then we'll eat it during the week so Get those two things. Lamberty and Sweet and sour chicken. What about you guys. What's your i. Don't discriminate ali anything. I'll eat lots of. I can't i can't stop i love it. I'm like a dog. i'll just keep going. But my mom is a great kirk and so when mom does her jewish food. It's like it's brilliant. I love it. And it's reassuring. But i do know ali anything i want to know though is that is not your kind of with that bill main for we all get free cast what their desert island millwood bail the last supper. Whatever you wanna call this be oh main the balti and the sweeten okay. We have a okay to main thing. Drink of choice. Okay so I would go for fried calamari. Now i would have to bowls of carl. Amari one foot with balsamic vinegar which i could have with shredded. Oman never tried this. I'm addicted to bull some vinegar alike. It's it's a problem i would have. We too big simple some vinegar for could and then i would have another dip of thousand island dressing. Bit left field. I mean a calamari. I would have eat earlier too tall so i like this. Oh okay yeah. Another bow paranaense mayonnaise. What from under under yes. Yes there you go. Well you know i could lie to you and tell you that my favorite food is like golden blue. But it's not what i go for it. I won't i won't chemical crap so case that's your starter and then the main okay. The main would check in with these special fried rice fine but like bolted beyond the substitute bench. But you can have the ball t to just have it as a little side. Okay thank you. I love the baltics and then drink of choice. Okay so i haven't had any alcohol for twenty years cicchetti. Check out my drink of choice. As i'm saying all of these things and i'm saying that publicly i'm like going. Hey i'm really uncultured. So here's my drink of choice coke zero. Come on. i really like it too. It's great threat without the sugar. I think it's actually better than real coke. Yeah i can see. You've got a lot in common with donald trump. got what he likes coke zero. Yeah he drinks coca cola all the time. Let me tell you though guys yeah. I eat very very healthily all the time apart from one meal a week. How you doing ed. I think that's what football is do one not day. Maybe maybe i think they call it a i but like today for example i go up. I will ten miles before launch. And then i had a vegan moussaka why vegan vegan at the mainland. Oh yeah. I've got to tell you. I've got to tell you so. I was eating fish twice a day. My blood stone last week. I'm kind. I've got the highest mercury poisoning. The doctors ever seen eating. I was just eat in octopus squid but shuna every night to be my snack meal. So i'd have in the in the fridge just tuna and pickled onions combo unico and i love the every night anyway. So here's the thing. Now i now based so. I'm a plant based person and i happened for the last five days apart from when you have that chocolate today to keep your top vegan vegan. You having eggs or anything. I'm plant plant by says distinction between veganism sort of like The difference is that people are doing fill moral issues which also with two. I'm so i feel. Give feel guilty if i do when i do eat meat but i'm doing it for health reasons the chocolate peak and today it wouldn't have been you're right mine but i wasn't myself when i woke up of my sleepy super and how does that work with four kids. Do you all eat together. A you all having the vegan moussaka. Because i know a bug a. My children are with food at the moment with like everything either has to be beige or separated. So do you have family eat together and d. kind of get stuck into the same stuff. Yeah we do eat together. I would say that. Mommy and daddy's food is slightly more restrictive than the food that the kids have not saying that you know that but the kids eat way healthier than i ever did. And that's how we want to raise them with of. We want to raise them with the best knowledge of nutrition that we have this points in our lives. A my mom raised me with the best information of nutrition that she had at that point in our lives. We've moved on since then. We know more things so the kids eat really. How early me. An mummy eats even more healthily. And are you feeling better doing the plant based diet. Do you feel good for i do. But i've just fallen asleep at five o'clock in the afternoon. I don't normally fall asleep at five o'clock in the afternoon. And then two nights ago i was trying to talk to me and i was just. She was trying to ask me like christmas presents. What should we get this presiding. Please stop ask question a lack of energy darling. Lie apps but i'm taking i in the morning Show answer is. I will feel on top of the world. I feel really good anyway. You know. I feel very happy very content. So if i get rid of this mercury. You look absolutely gorgeous. If you don't mind me saying he looks. You're not so how you say older the manure in tape that i think you look lovely actor proper place. You've thank you very much. I really really appreciate that. I want to know. Did you get your mercury tested because you went kind of neon and you started flashing or something. I got my mercury tested because my wife's new robotic arm she does all sorts of tests all sorts of times. And it's very interesting statistic that maybe making up on the spot. But i don't think so. Married men stay alive longer than single show. That is because their wives badgered them to be well and so is with my wife like she wanted me to get these blood stone. And i was like on whatever okay and so many of the things i did those and i do. I'm just going. She wants me to do it do it anyway. Thank god because i have dropped dead of mercury in a poisoning. I wanna night. We haven't got your last pitting. And i want to know more about growing up in stoke-on-trent and what was on the dinner table okay. So there was one special dish that my mom used to do and it was. It was how i felt love. 'cause like food is love and which can also become part of the addictive nature of feeding feelings. You know and it won't sound very special to you. But when i was growing up it was really special to me. So she got a kind of tuna and she gets mayo and some tomato ketchup. She'd mix the tune up and she'd make these choon amounts but she would butter the toast not on the inside but the outside and then she would put them in the oven and the butter would then like just melt into the whole thing and for whatever that was however that made me feel. I just felt in that that it was having an i was loved. I understand that you can do that too. I'm liking the idea of the catch catch up tomorrow. You look tired. I take it the caffeine toothpaste and adrenaline face serum aren't working. Well maybe you should ask santa for a nectar mattress this year. And if the big guy brings you another unicorn finger. 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Because we've had a few of the spice girls on a neighbor like we let you seeing packets of christ importantly does but i just wanted to know that any memorable food moment tape off beyond being an international superstar pop star individual. But rather because you you were doing this like when there was loads of money in the industry and they probably spent lots took you out wined and dined you. That shit doesn't happen anymore. Oh yeah yeah yeah. When we were kings was the last the last of my kind from when we were kings anyway. Early days of that. We used to do this thing called king nan. And basically you would get points so if you had a fall you would get six points if you had vince. Lu you get five points if you have madrid you've got four points and then it went all the way down to coma but you add to finish your dish right. And then as the months the couple months went on who had the most points then became king non. And what we did was we We got a nam bread. And then we put stuff around it and a chain around it and you wore your were intended time and and you a king man ever. You wanted everybody to this. I'm not taking the piss and is that when you realize that you had to leave the back. I haven't spoken about kingdom for since i told in public. Atl does the first time and as the words will leave in my lips. I was like this is mental. What i'm saying and footage truth. So what would you come on them to do. I never was king non. Because i couldn't. I couldn't stomach. A fall couldn't take his. He was king. Is always jason or howard and basically what they would do is like they would have a fall which is hotter than a vindaloo and then if the points were close they order another fall and eat hot dish to how did they all look so ripped and fantastic when they were just eating curry often curry. And honestly we would dance down simple seven today fakih hysterical. Yeah so then you'd wear this non gold chain non bread around your what you do to like stuff to make it not crumble varnish it. Yeah we'd varnish and now he did you frame any of these nan. Non breads no they will never they were never frame. But you ought to call the person king non as well when you talk to them. At this game we came up with combined. It's a bit like lord of the flies in it. And i won. And you're putting your pitting for your last meal okay. There's a red velvet cake from los angeles red velvet cake take place Yeah sprinkles michael. They are really good up. You lived in los angeles just knipe. I've done my. I've done sessions there. And i play gigs and and i remembered somebody for my birthday. I didn't even know if it was my birthday. Like la people really like to bring cakes to place like they really loved that i've realized and there's the sprinkles cake that has the it was like before everyone was doing. It became the confetti not the confetti the hundred thousands. they'd be all in the cake so it would kind of like sprinkles well. Yeah and our member celebration k. Yes that's called celebration. I guess maybe they were celebrating me. Arriving in los angeles. I used to always get one of them and it was. It was from sprinkles and it was delicious williams. Do you have good table manners. No i don't have good table minus. I eat like a viking. I suppose that's how if i could get rid of knife and forks and just attack it with my fingers. I would something takes over me. I always the my my side of the tables always always the dirtiest and sometimes albeit company. Where that could be embarrassing and it quite often is But i very very northern working class and it's about getting it off that plate and into my stomach as quickly as possible by any means necessary. I'm not get down. Yeah are you going to be at home for thanksgiving no. I'm not an just spoke to theodore my oldest twos eight and she was like daddy. I just realized you're not going to be here for thanksgiving. What about christmas christmas. We're all over that we love christmas. What do you do we. My wife just makes me love christmas. I couldn't be asked about christmas. It wasn't my favorite time. And then i came into my life and she is the spirit of christmas. And now it's our favorite time of the We absolutely adore it. And once i got we got married. And she got feet under the table and she just started to like go all out with the christmas decorations we used to live on this gated community and beverly hills and i came back wanting. She died the highest decorated. Swear you could see our house from the space station. Those just like fifteen. not in centers. Twenty bowing deers ourselves. Just a honestly it was like. I just thought about the electricity bill. Because when i was growing up you still have to put fifty pence into a meter to keep the electricity going anyway with eyder. She's made me have christmas. The problem is with my wife is. She's very very very thoughtful and she takes a lot of time and energy and patience thinking about presents for everybody and for me. The the problem is this. I'm the diametric opposite of my wife. How i show my love is through torch and cuddles and all the way through the day i will tell you how much i love which i told her how beautiful she looks genuinely mean i just i love looking at my wife i you know if i'm not beguiled with beautiful she is. I'm looking out interesting. She is an now. You know like what's that face doing today. Anyway that's the language of my love your shit at buying presents. Arlene dot doesn't make up for a nice present. Now i know i get that. I'm not. i'm not stingy in any way now. I'm sure you're not just not in my makeup to be bothered. You want to help here. Well the problem. She likes jewellery then. That's easy yeah. is it diamonds. Yeah yeah i mean. I started off doing the romantic stuff. Like i sent somebody to go in sketch. Her grandma's flat in paris. Wow that's good one right. That was fabulous yet. So i sent somebody to outside the grandma's flat to sketch it and then send it to us and then i'd create a i do so i made our four idir and then after a while you just kinda like oh again. But then there's the like the day that we met in january The the the anniversary of the christmas the thanksgiving the this all of these things and i. I'm speaking as a man. I'm sure the men listening to this show. I get you an. I understand you if my birthday falls on a tuesday. It's a tuesday and if nobody says happy birthday to me. I am not bothered. If my wife's birthday falls on a tuesday and she doesn't become king nine for the day. There's a problem six. That's what you could get breaking non with your kids. Maybe you should bring it to start. Might maybe i will bring number. Maybe that will be everyone's christmas game off davison to this. Everyone needs to send him pictures. If they played cam their mates. Robbie williams. Thank you so much for letting us into your life for an hour. It's been such a pleasure. You've you've kind of not held back we love you. It's been amazing. And i hope you know hope i get to meet you at a soccer aid or you come round for chicken. Well bless you bless. You both thank you so much for the love. I genuinely genuinely really love it. The been so kind and thoughtful generous with your time but generous of spirit when it gets been come to tell me that you think i'm a nice person and i've spent time in your life before without my time. Yeah we love you. We love our lives. Yeah bless you both. Hey listen why. Don't we will on me to love cleared. Just remember why. I love him so much. He's and generosity. And he is a real star. He it's undeniable. The way he's so much charisma. I'm swooning could see that mom. I can get a bloody wedding. You yeah rope come to my house rob. I remember why. I loved what we william so much when i was younger i still do. I think he's reignited. The bloody fame. Famous a tunnel robbie williams. I thought he was terrific. He was great fun. I took himself seriously. He was to sell off absolutely loved. My friday night being spent chatting to robbie williams about sweet and sour and king nam. Maybe could have direct. Didn't to start to start. Shout out to star in peckham and non had a bet. You could get good bloody lambeau. Not they're off anyway. We'll be williams love. You just love you. And i reckon everyone's gonna love him on. This and a single is out now might christmas. Thank you sma christmas. Happy christmas we're going to be back next week for some christmas nibbles with some friends. Tatum is produced by alice. Williams cast powers. Some of the world's best podcasts. Here's a show. We recommend she harmon. 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CV in the UK with Dr. Jason Smithson (DHS17)

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It's a workforce round n taper course Berg for Crown preps and opera or pick another one to give a try though. Check it out at dental hacks dot com slash damn good. Birds let micro copies. Experience changed the way you see dentistry with their damn good burs dental hats shorts dental hacks nation welcome back to another dental short. We have joining us. Probably are most common guest Dr Jason Smith and Jason. How are you doing? I'm good. I'm good how are you? I'm good so just just to frame this up if if people are listening to this years in advance. We're both of US sitting here in about two weeks into the world ending with the corona virus. And I wanted to get your take on what it looks like in the UK with all this craziness like they've they've heard a lot from the US. But I'm curious Jason. You know you're not in London. You're out you're you're you're kind of in the country but but tell me what it looks like like like. Tell me how it happened and tell me everything. I'm I'm all ears so I'm looking out my window and it's Nice Sunny Day and so far. I'm not seeing any Zombie. So that's kind of Coll- God for that right. Yeah I think they come next week. Something like that we to be honest and in our county as we've discussed things on not so bad your listeners kind of reference with very rural where kind of like in the deep south or or or kind of like on the Cape in the US and an odd situation is we're very rural and spread out and we only have one hospital we one major hospital with an intensive care unit so that is a concern and it's not a big intensive care unit however my understanding from speaking to people that reasonably high level. You just happen to be. France is that we have less than fifty cases it my county and we had. We had sixteen two weeks ago before I have been to New Zealand Australia so before I went to New Zealand Australia. We had sixteen when I came back this morning. In fact we have. I think forty six man. It's rapidly spreading in my county. My understanding is so far in my county. Nobody died but in the more populated areas specifically London. It's spreading really fast. I think not quite as fast as in Madrid and not quite as fast as as in certain areas of Italy or perhaps Iran in spreading really fast and and I think the reason is because it's very densely populated and the underground that she is still running subway. That's interesting so they are okay so they're still running that okay. Well the reason why they run. That is because most of the hospitals in central London obviously centrally based. Yeah and keep workers who work in them. Doctors Nurses neces- specifically cleaners etc. Second particularly the lower paid staff. It's really expensive to get into work. Took a cab for example. It probably wouldn't be worth getting into work so they have to take the subway so that I'm calling it someway abrasion listeners. You're on the ground. They have to say the underground keep the company running but it would seen from looking at pictures on the news that you know there are guys guys on the underground obvious builders clothing so it's not well maintained in a hospital which I think is pretty unlikely that basically everybody's still using it in London and the numbers are going higher and higher and higher. I had a conversation with a guy who's mcso facial consultant just outside London actually day before yesterday I wasn't talking about. I was talking about some webinars but anyway he feels that he will be succumb to run it. Tests of CARE units rather than do excellent facial in in the very near future and his wife works in pediatric intensive care and in London then daily full so the situation throughout our country is very different in London. Inns it's rife Birmingham at magister. The biggest cities in my area. Not so much okay. I literally just saw that in the newspaper I we are. My county has six cases. None of them hospitalized and that was from yesterday so this really but like we just had already volker on like a couple of days ago in first off. He's he says okay. New York is basically on tight lockdown. And there's a ton of them in there in the javits center where they had the greater New York meeting there. A couple of months ago is GONNA be turned into a giant hospital so like clearly. This is a big city phenomena compared. It's very tough for me to be put on lockdown this way and it's because I just don't have a huge view of it you know it's hard like me because I'm not seeing any of it. I don't know anyone who's WHO's sick. I don't know anyone who's hospitalized. I don't so we're all locked down tightly in in. We haven't seen any of it yet. Like in Detroit the southeastern Michigan. There's a ton of people dying and stuff so it really be a big city phenomenon or maybe just because we have more room out here. I don't know I do have a I do have a friend. But he's not in my county his in the north of England completely different area again quite rural but he's a dentist and he is in intensive care currently. I'm GONNA mention his name but the guys who know me know who he is. So I wish you know pest wishes to him but he's is pretty fit sixty year old guy and he's he's an intense cast. So that's that's a concern is it's I. Don't think it's ventilated. He's on oxygen but still it just shows you. It's pretty scary. Yeah Yeah So. That's kind of where we are location. Wise from a fresh wise. It's kind of bit with but we are. Yeah so okay. So your office I mean the listeners. Know I've been closed for two. This is a were on a Friday and I literally closed a couple of Mondays ago except for emergencies and Yep. I've never been so happy to have someone with a swollen face. Call me because it gives me to do. It's just terrible right like like leg. I didn't realize how how hard it would be to to be at home and like be told that I gotta just stay at home. Kind of thing like it's. It's much tougher than I thought it would be. Well we we have a slightly different setup in the UK because we closed the office on Friday. Had Very I worked Wednesday on Monday Wednesday anyway but I came in for meeting on Friday last Friday but we had very very unclear advice from our government and very very unclear advice from our chief dental officer and a very very unclear advice from basically any everybody so we reached a stage last Thursday. Where they said you could provide any dental procedure as long as it didn't generate an aerosol which is basically procedure. You can do anything you want. Except nothing exactly. It's a private fee for service practice. So we're not controlled by the government. So we can make any decision that we wish so. We made the decision for the safety of ourselves. To Safety of our staff primarily the safety of patients that we were going to close but we were going to offer an emergency service. That was our game plan so we put things together so that we could go into the office manager emergencies now. Fortunately so far because of the kind of office had is a is a very pleasant young lady who's luster and at bridge of this replacing lower right pre. Mola winches in shame but staff. It's not classified as an emergency. I'm putting so we haven't been inundated but we're kind of an odd practices much as we do elected what which is because matic really anyway on Monday. I think I've got my chronology right. 'cause I I don't even know what day it is. I know that's a day a day it is. It's Friday I think but a Monday We finally got some directive which said basically we had to see so procedures okay and we were not allowed well now on Monday. It was a bit weird. We had to see so procedures unless we had appropriate personal protective equipment which nobody has just going to say. This is the problem everywhere. I don't even does it. Get under your skin that the universal precautions you've been using since dental school are all of a sudden in in in one day are not universal anymore. That sort of gets under my skin a little bit. Yeah worrying as well but anyway so we had to stop everything unless we had appropriate which we don't so therefore we have stop anything but we stopped anyway but I know a lot of guys who are still working under that directive Obviously for financial reasons and then I think Tuesday would be correct. We were told we have stop working period and emergencies would be directed to an. I think accurate in saying this. Although I may be incorrect any any emergencies should be directed to new. Regional centers have been set up for the treatment of patients. Why I do not treat patients in your practice. You go through a triaging by telephone skype. Whatever you choose to do or whatever and then patients who could manage their issues were basically told to deal with it themselves. Just never been our strategy in our practice and we we look. We get people with a loss crown on a lowest second molar and we see them that day. You know we just do so. You know to be told that somebody mine. Pain should be burned along and just take some painkillers. Just not on our radar at all. Exactly the opposite of everything we've done and what we've strived to move away from and now they're just saying you know. Throw on an antibiotic which is clearly enough. You know yeah via telephone on antibiotics which as I understand. It is below the standard of care about until five minutes ago. That's right we're in a bit of a different situation but That concerns regulator and anybody who actually needed treatment for example. A friend of mine's just call me a message early this morning saying he has a a young lady who is pregnant. Who has a fat face clearly dealing with irrespective the poor woman they should be sent regional centers which have four p. p. and the correct facilities to deal with that so that sounds. Okay guess what there is no regional center of course not excuse my French but my life what is going on here. You'RE GONNA have that out so up. This poor woman is now in a situation. She's not a patient of Navarre's but she's in a situation where the poor lady is pregnant. a dentist auto out to treat her. We've had very unhelpful advice from our regulator. If he treats her what goes wrong with an anything goes wrong. What happens there? He doesn't to an anything goes wrong? What happens if he the hell is he going to refer to? Yeah Yeah I feel like I feel your pain. We Have A. We had a big thing on the dental hacks nation I was just. I was up in arms about it. Apparently on the twenty second which was just a few days ago five days ago a directive came out from in Pennsylvania that you were not allowed to see corona virus positive patients. No No. You're not let's see patients in less. You had a negative pressure offertory which literally no one has like. There's no such thing a- I I guess I don't know I don't even think hospitals have that right. I don't even know for sure. But in any case and so clearly that was written by regulator. That doesn't understand anything. And so people the they've kind of freaked out about it and apparently now they're saying okay. You can't treat anyone who's tested positive for corona virus or or you can't test anyone with corona virus without those P P and. I'm like wait. A second. Universal precautions mean. We treat everyone like they have it. So there's a big obviously where you are in where I am. The messages that we're getting are crossed. They're not well thought out. We don't have the evidence for it and so we're in. I swear to God you got people that are just trying to outdo the other people about freaking out about this stuff. In the meantime there are people who actually need to be seen and we're sort of were sort of worried about so. I'M NOT GONNA lie to the patients. I've seen. That are my emergencies. I don't have the proper. P. E. P. P. and. I'm still seeing him. I have a class three masks which is not supposedly not as good as the in ninety five who even frigging knows. I don't even know but like I'm trying. Not to create an Aerosol. I took out a couple of teeth yesterday. So there you have it I think given the I mean this may be extremely naive to say given given the fact that your role in the family account he has very few cases and Seemed to be isolating in your campsie that seems to be reasonable risk given you know prior to this we risk titus and HIV and TB. And God knows what every day. Anyway I don't know I mean the next thing in England the knock-on for practices really for offices. And what that's GONNA mean for them in in the future not just the summer which is what people seem to be thinking about. You know on Woodstock Twenty twenty twenty twenty one after that really. I feel like this'll be a chance for regulators to aren't okay. So my dad started practicing dentistry. Nineteen sixty eight and I remember when I went to dental school gloves in in the in the mid nineties Gloves were still relatively new. Like like gloves and masks were relatively new. The AIDS crisis was still relatively relatively new. And and I remember my dad being like. I don't think I can practice like this. I don't think I can do this. He's you know he's done. You didn't wear gloves and they were and so I'm wondering okay. So is this round two. Are we GONNA see now? You can't see patients on respirators and the other thing is if you are if you use loops if you use microscope. If there's a lot of things that are going to have to be dealt with here if you've got to wear that full face mask all the sudden that means you don't. It's harder to do what you normally do. It's weird right. There's a lot there's a lot here. Yeah I mean I I. I wear a headband loops and no and I tried to fit the mask around it and it's not ideal yeah I it. They'll be fixed to that. You'll come with something they'll have they'll have to in trying to be great. Yeah so yeah. That's an issue. I think I think the issue in the UK is really the financial viability of a lot of practices. That's nuns big issue. Because the level of government support for non government funded offices is zero. Yeah so so. What you're saying is is the support. Okay so you you guys have probably some kind of government a rescue plan like they just passed. They're trying to pass right now. Is that right. Yes the rescue plan is basically this. If you're an employed person for example your employees at your office you can't be a full load which I understand. This is C. Us actually which means that you in reality. You should be fired. And because you can't be afforded but for the duration of this crisis the government will pay eighty percent of the income up to a two thousand five hundred pounds a month which is not every dental nurse. But it's pretty it's pretty decent. It's pretty decent for for so know. I mean if you've got a family animal gauge and Blah Blah Blah. It's not great but the reality is in England. Most people have put off their mortgage for three months. I think is allowed in the US as well There's a lot of talk about that right now in the US for sure. Yeah when you strip your mortgage out of it for a moment working person that who is employed. It's kind of a blow and it's it's like Oh we're not getting a holiday this year and we maybe need to be careful with our shopping but that's kind of it. Interestingly enough that even applies to people who work in pick bankers because people always do. But it's a good example if you wake in the banking industry and millions of pounds a year and were employed by the bank. You would get that. Oh Geez back. Yeah so that's the reality of up to two thousand five hundred so you guys who are any on a twenty thirty forty fifty times and they still get it off any offices and I have paid much attention to this too. Because I've been busy dealing mom business problems. Frankly in this week and finding stuff often and rescheduling courses and go. What but if you're a national health service in other words a government funded practice. It kind of looks good on paper because the government are still paying your allotted allowance because You da's office the guy in the Office Guy Office is still being paid. The he can lay off the star and follow the staff and they get a cent Actually on paper. If you were a hundred percent government funded off this. It looks kind of quite good because you don't have to go into your office. You can strip out some of your variable overhead late apple and you're still getting paid so it looks Kinda good. The problem is for most guys and girls who own offices in the UK is that the majority of them are not one hundred percent coverage they run a government office but some service which I think is probably similar to the makes in the in the US so that means a lot of time then not even fifty eight. So they're kind of screwed a bit on in the mix as well is that the government has now said. If you're taking the money we're giving you we have the option to requisition you to deploy you elsewhere but you. Oh Yeah Oh yeah so they. They're building a hospital which is great. They're building a great hospital in the Excel Centre in London. Which is probably something similar to the thing. He was talking about New York. But there's just been a young dentist to as a practice owner on the National News Today. And he's he's going to be deployed there so basically. I mean I'm assuming they're not going to be doing ten units veneers there but probably not. Yeah I mean I imagine that'd be doing things like clocking checking people in and and maybe you know I personally could probably put in. I can put Avi Lines and do stuff like that are. The interesting thing is our regulator. The General Dental Council has not actually basically sent us an email which is not which basically says you need to work within your scope of practice in other words. Do what you're trying to do so I don't know how much of that where allow what we're allowed to do. I mean I'm pretty sure I couldn't calculate you but but that's the the also brings a civil liberties thing in because you know if you're unemployed gentleness you signed up to be an employee gentleness You didn't sign up to be requisitioned to a hospital. Where there dreadfully sick people and people will be dying and people are people are picking up on the kind of risks of catching the disease but probably what they're not picking up on his is the psychological effects of that long-term. Yeah it's like I worked. I used to do slow facial in a level one trauma center in the early part of my career and to be honest. When you see people who are really sick and die at the state with you for quite a while. And if you're not used to that can as I wasn't can be a bit of a shocker. But anyway that's them so employ people a kind of okay guys who owned. Nhs offices pretty screwed and guys like me who run fee for service completely screwed this because the government had said you know if you're a self employed person whose company not the person whose company remember both my wife. My Company Company makes more than fifty thousand pounds. Gross profit now a two employees dental practice. Yeah that's that's GonNa be everyone. Yeah so basically. That's everybody is is not entitled to any aid whatsoever. I've been chatting to a friend of mine. Who is is not a dentist actually. He's he's a teacher gave up teaching and he now is very interesting. Job Actually works for Lego. Allow three years cool job My son loves it. Because my son is twelve lega and Stewart. Basically troubles world. Aiding doing are indeed for Lego. Which is what. Coaching job ever. Actually and he also does teaching and that can be anything can be in the UK and the US or sometimes in disadvantaged areas like Africa and stuff like that so he gets to travel a lot and it's a very cool job but he's freelance so guess what he doesn't look the same as me pretty much and there are a lot of people supply what we call supply teaches. You know teachers who go in and teach schools when the you know. The regular teacher is ill. They're out of luck too. So there's a there's a huge five percent of the UK will not be getting paid during this period of time. Likely their businesses will stop for the autumn and Spring of two thousand twenty one as a result of this and we get absolutely nothing and I can live with that. But what I can't live with is the fact that it's I consider it really unfair. When an employed person who earns more than fifty thousand pounds he gets paid and a self employed person who unspoken fifty thousand pounds a year but no whose company earns more than fifty thousand pounds. It doesn't get paid. I think it's grossly unfair if the government put a cap on you know if you get paid more than fifty thousand pounds a year in your employees tough to I think that would have been fair. So I'm currently a little unimpressed. With the government in that way The impact on offices is that I think the reality is a lot of fee for service offices in the UK and a lot of mixed fee for services fee-for-service stroke NHS offices in the UK will probably go under in this style for more than two three or four months. I would say yes. Because how are you gonNa pay the overhead and also patients won't be in a position to pay for this stuff so that is the question I asked? That's the thing. Okay so just to give you an idea in from what I understand from the law. They're trying to pass in the United States right now. People in the middle of the curve people like a lot of people who would be employees of of dental offices on almost any level are gonNA do pretty well with this in other words. The support they're going to get from. The government is going to be pretty great in Larry. The government is looking to write some checks to get money to people to start with which is great. Anyone much over about one hundred grand in income is pretty much our lock. It sounds like which is fine. I that's I get it. What bugs me is that. Really people who are really poor or underemployed. Don't get very much help. It's like there's a sweet spot where if you're like a middle income person you're getting it really well and they. They have a lot of support for business owners. But the support comes in the form of will give you this loan at a really good rate but you gotta use it to pay your employees. When they're not working in the problem is is that what they're saying is really you have to pay your employees when they're not working upfront. You gotta pay that with your money up front and you'll get it back in tax credit essentially later in I'm unfortunately the cash flow aspect of that means either like I said they're gonNA take out a loan or they're taking out and savings. Where do that so and I think the other thing is is. This got passed late enough in the deal that most offices around here have already laid people off for furloughed them for unemployment at this point so they weren't really so we're kind of sitting on that it is frustrating that like like the help that small businesses get is not the same kind of help that big businesses are going to get from the sound of and of course all dental offices essentially are small businesses. So and I wasn't looking for help as much as you know but we all WanNa work. We'd all prefer to be back at work like nothing. It's not like it's not like it's like the economy got really bad. It's they turned it off. You know I think to be honest as we said before I mean I'm I'm I'm not an never have looked for bail outs from the government to be honest personally financially. Very prudent and I put away savings to last at a time like this but my problem is if they're giving money just two people inappropriately. I find any. Yeah and you know I have a friend who is in Scotland. Who's told me? They just randomly dishing grant. I don't know I don't know if this is true by the way because a lot of rumor and frankly a lot of young around moment but what is what is happening but to. I had heard that basically they would just dishing out grants to anybody who ask for a grant being just money. They you go you go and you know some businesses then fair. Play some businesses for example. I imagine if you're running a supermarket or I guess Walmart's doing pretty well at the moment. And if he was going on sterilization wipes or you know whatever your next ventilators you do pretty well at the moment. Yeah but they would still get the ground. Now that's just not really appropriate to me being old. I forgot the best thing on our announcement last night from the government. I'm really bitching winding out but I'm here for it man. I'm all in therapy. The government announced although everybody who was going to get help except the five percent who they portrayed as people he was super rich apparently everybody who owns more than fifty thousand a year in the UK actually earns over two hundred thousand on. I was like what wait yeah. They spun it as the people who are not getting it. We the Cutoff. Point is fifty thousand. Pounds feel business gross profit. Gross profit But it doesn't matter because everybody who doesn't fall within that category and personally two hundred thousand pounds net salary what. How does that even add? That's just I missed that. Yeah so that was that just left with like an. My wife had an argument with her sister because Assistant Ping Ping to text across. Saying it's like you guys you you you bank two hundred thousand pounds each net after tax year and I was like what I'd like to see those statements relatively you know sensible goal and she's just been completely misled by that so there's that and then the and here's a real kick in the nuts it some obviously we'll have to raise taxes for companies to pay for this after holding. I'm the only one now. I'm not I'm in the group that gets absolutely nothing. Okay you find. That's acceptable put savings away. We can with that but you know when you get back on your feet just when you're trying to claw yourself out of the show by the way we have prepared for because we have no we. Have you know what if had a major disaster? They clearly don't have any major disaster but they clearly don't have any action plan. We have no resources for by the way we're going to bail everybody out apart from you and you can pay for it. Yeah that was the message I got last night so I was really pissed when I I get to. Because because like like they can't stop talking about all the big businesses that are going to get bailouts including the the airlines and the which of course. Yeah Airlines are getting crushed on this deal because no one's traveling because we're not allowed due for granted but but a small business like you'd figure that an airline is probably. I don't know I agree for someone who who actually could could ride it out. Were kind of it on some level. I think you said this earlier. Do on some level. I don't want to think too hard about it. I'm grateful that it's not gonNA affect us that much if it's if it lasts as long as we think it's GonNa last weeks to months kind of thing but it is. It's crazy. How quickly. Yeah it's crazy how quickly. It's gotten political very political frustrating. Been up as dentists. Where the high risk people? Let's be honest. We even sleep with a two days from So we've been off work a week and it's just like Kale's it's it's literally like close to a level you'd get on a literally as ownby apocalypse. It's like what yeah. It's I'm frustrated by it because I think about that. I'm like man how long it's been going. Oh my God we're just starting. I feel like I'm at the end of my rope on something like mentally honestly mentally. I'm at the end of my rope on some level in I like going switched off social media for quite a large party yesterday. Because it's just you know the people who suddenly become experts experts in positive. I'm on on the. I don't know if you've read the research because most interesting enough most research of this is actually coming out of the UK. Yes yes oh. The models would by imperial college which is a world renowned redbrick university on on a level with hail and Yale and Harvard. They put forward a a model interesting enough. There's another model. That's disproven which is out of Oxford. Which as you probably know is also pretty serious on the same level and the Yup. The modeling they showed was burnt mind. It's modeling is very limited. Research is that perhaps actually fifty percent of US already have it and the level of people the Morbidity Mortality Ratio. It is actually significantly lower than than the projections because soon because we're not testing everybody. That's basically it. That's that's GonNa be the thing. In retrospect that's going to be the thing that that tells us whether we were right or wrong to do it. This week is once everyone gets tested. Like that's the to make it very simple if I get tested right now. I'm fine. I'm comfortable. I'm not sick. I haven't had a fever if I get tested and test positive. All of a sudden people start realizing oh wait a second The testing is important but also says that. Why did I sell my office again? Yeah exactly exactly. That's I don't even want. I want to think too hard about it. I the winner. Winter's here the winters here are the are the grocery stores In Ahmed States could be the DSO's possibly in the long haul where they buy a bunch of offices at a discount. I Dunno seriously seriously so but it's tough because we don't even have enough data to know that so day to day. We're just sort of sort of for the best you know I mean you know. I know I travel extensively. I had pretty healthy because I was breathless sick Christmas like I can get my breath and I had every single tests known to man and barring CT and there is not anything serious wrong with me. Although my blood's were up in scenarios Dow now physician put it down to stress because I was working hob traveling internationally. A lot then kind of wonder. I think I want to see if you have any any immunity in the end because I spent my life kicking around. Airport lounges throw L. A. You know Singapore Hong Kong. All the places where you would you know. I'm pretty reasonable with hygiene. I eat my lunch breakfast out of out of a buffet in the in the airline lounge when you look at it now. It's a petri dish too delicious dish. Petri dish yeah. I didn't wash my hands when I when I just checked in or when I put my hand on the passport counter or whatever you just don't T U B C Free so I think you know. Give them my travel over the last twenty. Three months. I mean two weeks ago I just came back from New Zealand and Australia. Talk through Heathrow. So I think odds-on if I and I felt on well the beginning of the year in breathlessness and I don't now as far as I'm aware I never had a fever. My blood S- were up. Just put it down to either stress some unknown infection while the unknown infection. Could well have been I so. I'm no I'm no expert but if I just had a test kicking around I'd give it to you because that'd be interesting information and then when it comes back positive guess what you then get to donate blood. And they're they're going to spin off your antibodies. For treating other people wouldn't be a problem for me. The the the issue may be spread. It halfway around the world oops sorry about that. It'd be real. That's exactly what they're dealing with. That's exactly what they're dealing with Jason. I'm going to end it here because we've been going for a while. This is really good. You know I wanna ask you this. What are you doing with your time? I think I know what you can tell you. What are you doing with your time? Because you can't go to the office you you've got a nice place to hang out in. You're like me. You're on a farm and you can go outside. And it's so what are you up to so a kids. At school have been disclosed. A kids will have been quite good schooling remotely and oddly enough. My son is a bit of the class clown. His schoolwork actually been better. That's been an improvement during school from nine. Am lunch break in the morning lunch. Break afternoon breaking they finish it three thirty four so their life is we're making them get up get washed get dressed for that. Excuse me not doing it in their pajamas because I wanNA keep structure to the day. I finally enough. I spend my life with right. Really Weird sleep patterns because into people in Australia. American bubbles up allows of the night. But I've obviously stopped doing that so now I just go to bed about ten eleven o'clock okay. Yeah so I get my waking. Time is actually relatively early. It's a bit like yours. It's five from an eleven o'clock go to bed. It's a five o'clock wait so I'm wait naturally five and I'm just kind of getting up slowing down quite a bit. But I've had over the last week a ridiculously full books in my emails every morning So I've been hacking through. Perhaps maybe a couple of hours of emails in the morning and then probably some phone calls. That are reasonable time and then spent morning at she. I'm looking at my lectures and thinking. Okay the Pretty Nice even though I say myself but they can always be improved so I'm just adding in some brand new research and taking a lot of photos out and replacing them with new cases stuff like that so when when we start again hopefully in the fall of this year we'll be running with some new material and then I take lunch told by then and then I've just been doing farm stuff like painting hanging Gates repairing fences cutting the lawn. You know. The governor's GonNa look pretty good. Yeah that's kind of where we are. I it's nice to have a farm to give me some purpose when I'm not able to go in and do and I will say like I will say like I said I'm probably not supposed to necessarily but I'm going to emergencies when I need to not a lot. I'll say it's kind of would've expected. Yeah the farms up you find Like I deal with a gate yesterday and it's been hanging off like six months. 'cause there's always there's always got stuff but there you yep excellent Jason. Thank you for spending some time with me. I really enjoy an international kind of look at this stuff and everyone take care. Stay healthy but hopefully get it weeks. I agree I agree. We'll keep in touch very cool.

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Anne Marie Rafferty on women in nursing

"Julia Gillard and this is a podcast of one's own. I'm offended by the lack of women in positions of leadership and the way those that do make it a traitor. Die I helped lead the Global Institute for Women's leadership at King's College. London headquartered in Virginia Woolf building. In Nineteen Twenty Nine Virginia said she aspired for women authors to have the space to write in a room of one's own here I want women lead, too. Have A podcast once. This is a spacial podcast episode in two ways one. It is to mark the fact that twenty twenty is the year of the nose commemorating two hundred years since the world's most famous nose, Florence, nightingale was born second. I'm speaking to a wonderful King's college colleague Anne Marie Rafferty who is a professor of nursing and president of the Royal College of nursing in the UK and Marie. What does the year of the nose main to you? But I like Julia at just like say a pleasure to to speaking with you the small. And the heat of the nurse of course means two things I think one is forty was going to mean before the pandemic and second biggest means consequence of the pandemic I think the first thing to say is that it was going to be a glorious year of celebration globally, not just in the UK as the epicenter of Lords, nightingales influence and the kind of centrifugal point, from which that influence was spun out to the rest of the world, but across across the world itself, and it was going to be marked specifically by the publication of a very special report, the state of the world's nursing and this was the first time at data had been lated from. From hundred three countries across the world on the state of mainly the nursing workforce, and the number of difference elements of that, so it was celebration, and in fact Julia you're going to be one of the keynote speakers at probably the largest gathering of nurses in London at the Excel Centre in the Docklands of London so we were poised to celebrate, but also to really raise the profile of the profession, and to use the state of the world's nursing report, which had the full backing of w Joe and nursing now she's been a global campaign to raise the profile of of nursing itself and Indeed International Council of Nurses, so these forces have joined very much together. To begin a policy dialogue on the lobbying process, which was really designed to educate ministries of health, also to role in dialogue with other ministries who have an impact on the nursing workforce force, and that includes minsters Labor ministers of of Education of course ministers of finance and chancellors of the Jacker, so this was intended originally to be a major celebration that would attract. Residents media attention, but with the also and public. That we don't so in doing so provide a political platform or shifting the dial in a number of crucial policy parameters asphalt really was planned for reentered the ear of the of the pandemic, and so, is this something a little bit uncanny in your view that instead of a big celebration of nosing, there's a major global pandemic which is of course reminding us how volatile noces are to every community to every nation. What's your understanding of how the? The proficiency going in the face of this pandemic. What's it like for noces around the world at the moment? Well in some ways, it's paradoxical that the pandemic has actually wrote about a sense of disability or nurses in in quite an extraordinary and exquisite way, and certainly has raised the media profile of the profession and public support I think, but I think that this ability has had multiple passes to it in the sense that his opened up if If you like the black box of nursing, because I think the public perhaps doesn't have the sharpest latest understanding nurses actually do, and made that really to Daily News Casting in broadcasting of the crisis, much into the living rooms of citizens all over the world, and it's also opened up that space for other professions I mean doctors of being redeployed some of them actually to work as nurses, and they have expressed I think how impressed the being with. With the expertise of nurses. I mean obviously the big ticket item here and they focus on intensive care, but of course nurses work in many different settings and community care, mental health settings and also care homes so I think really nursing has been on view as never before, and of course, our own prime minister has had an experience of being very ill with covert and so first hand direct contact with nurses whom he has know praised in And Very Generous Way course we would love to see that fulsome praise converted into some kind of reward and recognition for Narcisse once the pandemic has ended or at least enter suspect this to be a more endemic phase, but in terms of the question of what has it been like? I think it's been like nothing before. Nurses have really stepped up to the mark in terms of mobilising, not just the twenty extra nurses who've come out of retirement to actually be redeployed into service, not just the students who've actually gone into. Into work and placements up and down the country. Most people have had to do things that are way beyond their comfort zone and never really had to do before we had to build critical care capacity at pace, unscaled thirty thousand appear beds. I mean that's been like a kind of Olympics. Rent exercise, and that's been accomplished. Because basically people have been willing to put their shoulder to the wheel and go inward Canadians trained where they haven't worked before an I think that's flexibility. Agility and adaptability that nurses and other shown has been. Extraordinarily impressive, but of course it's also taking a huge toll. We actually started the pandemic film, a position of deficit with minus forty thousand nurses that has not been position strength that we would otherwise have wished for in Nazi embarking on this pandemic absolutely and I want to talk and Marie now about your own journey into nursing to uncover some of the motivations that type people into nursing you. You grew up in the coalfields of Fife Scotland and your father was a call monitoring. Monitoring, your mother was a nurse, so was in the family. Your family face discrimination from an early age because of your I wish Catholic heritage. In fact, your father even dropped to refugee from me surname, and went by Smith to find employment opportunities headed that affect. You is a girl, and in what ways do you think gender affected? Hey, you traded. How do you remember that in your childhood? You remember when you I thought you so J goes, get traded differently to boys. I? Mean I have to say that they set Tam UNISOM within Scottish society is not being something that's talked a lot about, and it wasn't talked a lot about in our family, but I think it signaled to me that there was a lot of tragedy. Send in Scotland the kind of mirror image of what was happening in Northern Ireland was being played out on the east and the West, particularly in west coast of spot land so I think I was aware of the way in which prejudice operated as Catholics. We went to separate school. We were very much minority tradition and I was told. By my dad, basically, the main unions were dominated in Scotland by Protestants and you know it was bad for quite difficult to get jobs in the forties and fifties so I think I was certainly aware of that status and standing ons, prejudice I, mean his kids. It was somewhat jokingly said that we were all you know pay. Tim's Infineon's and. Used as as sort of taunts and slurs. Been Most of my. Friends were were from kind of background, but you also aware of of some sort of skepticism in in even some of the parents it was. It was quite strange, but I think on the question of gender I mean I was actually a real tomboy when I was growing up and it seemed to me I, was aware of my gender that washed. The boy seem to be having quite a of fun. And I definitely wanted you know a piece of the action, and so I used to roam around with the boys and I felt it was quite well, except either naturally an I was settled except on the football pitch and football with something that I actually became pretty good that even allow victim some of the boys and I kind of fighted myself up, and of course football was something of the you know. The connective tissue of conversation in our house had two brothers that and that's how they relate to each other, so few GonNa get into the conversation. You had to have something to or say about football. And, by the time you were a teenager, was that sort of running its course though it was increasingly hard to be a Tomboy, increasingly had to be on the Football Pitch Oh, yes, definitely I mean of course opposite time and everyone was having boyfriends, and you're one of the girls, and with generally speaking, everyone was was experimenting with relationships. You know in a rat list. But I was aware of being gay from a very early age in so I was really struggling with us. I think as as I was growing up in my teens. I'm not sure exactly what it did to me psychologically, but think it meant I had this kind of over attachment, or over zealous desire to be with my friends to fit in, and be like everyone else. When I knew actually I was carrying this very dark, secret around inside me that in fact I was very different, and you know a minority as far as I could see of one and that sentiment didn't want to be like that at one point. I was saying Hail Marys which seems a bit of a contradiction adept the that make the Catholics. Catholic churches asked you towards so-called homosexuality, but yeah I I was praying not to be gay, but there. We are that studio it was. And against that background, you've decided to study. No Sing at Edinburgh University. What inspired you to do that I? Mean obviously it had been your mother's Korea to was at that was at sense of family connection, or was it something else well? I don't think I was very clear about what I wanted to do. Until pretty late. You know in school. Life on essentially wasn't the most well. Well behaved or studious people far from it I think this clumping to my friends met I was basically homework accessories Lissouba alien to me, but I was inspired by my mum's stories of nursing in second, World War in in Saudi Ish, military hospital and nursing prisoners of war, and that fight my imagination, both to nurse at their stories of being fever nurse in particular, which is actually. Actually. Highly relevant it no crisis and that sense of history so I think she spot two things in me. You know interested in nursing and an interest in history and the tradition of Scottish he pulls going to the local university online just happened to be Edinburgh fortunately for me. It was actually the first in Europe to offer a degree in nursing and I think at see my. My brother, he was the first family to go to university his expensive university, and it seemed to be all about having a great time and party so I felt hey, life come Edinburgh sham nuts for me. I didn't really think much about you. Know the hard what is going to entail? It's you know a lifelong east a half years of a parting that seem much more alluding. Now I think we just should dig a little into that transition of nursing into being a university qualification, because it certainly make for you that you were amongst the first in the UK to study nosing at university and back they in the usual way of studying nursing was more like an apprenticeship. You would be working on the wards, gaining work experience, and then becoming more skilled, now more senior. Apart from the potential allure of the Edinburgh University parties, what do you think that made fano saying that it became a university qualification on? Did it make it a more attractive pathway for you in a substantive saints? Did you think that it was more of a professional more of a career because it had a university qualification attached to it? Yeah, definitely. I thought it would. Would enhance the status of what nursing or a boat and deeds though add some scientific kind of basis and grinding in knowledge and research to what Mrs Denton some bring it out of the shadows of signs into the center of where signs was being generated knob is very much, attracted to the research from an early stage within the university itself because we're lucky had been. Searching spoke for nurses so I think it was the capacity to both gain a practical qualification, and gained a degree which seemed like a good double ticket to actually getting job at the end of of training, but the mean having that university experience, and as I go into it, being able to see what the potentially was to develop nursing as a science, and as an intellectual discipline on par with any other, and that was very very appealing. You didn't just study at Edinburgh. You also studied at Nottingham University and then you've said and I'm quoting here that you were bitten by the research bug, and you switch to study a history PhD at Oxford becoming the first nurse to gain a doctorate from that university now why he straight that would seem to many people like a pretty big late from the intellectual, but also practical profession of nursing into studying history yet, it does seem like a bit of a jump to that at to admit that but I. I was fascinated by the issues of boundary. Is is the sociology of Knowledge in the relationship between knowledge in power, not with nurses can get their hands on more knowledge that can enhance the power base, and that's the only game in town, the only way to go, but to really understand those power dynamics. I thought that I needed to understand history and. I was really interested in it and I was very very fortunate that I was accepted to do this by. A supervisor who Charles Webster whose official historian of the National Health Service, I mean who is very generous and. Risk with someone who really didn't have an undergraduate history degree. And he was no. I think the very open, minded and quite lift wing in his thinking and I. Think you know he thought. Let's have one for the nurses here and you know. His medicine was dominated by by doctors, and it's important to have nursing story told, and looking at those pal dynamics in the medical savings you wanted to study. Those wanted to study. The history wanted to see how those power dynamics said. Come about at this stage when you were studying. He stray where you alive to the gender dynamic that. Disproportionately, noces where women disproportionately doctors, particularly supervising doctors women, yes, very much so I mean both know first hand experience, but also in the literature that was beginning to emerge a trickle of feminist studies of of nursing, some of which at the more historical bent to them, and you know talking about the way in which that power relations between doctors nurses, how they played out replicated patriarchal relationships from the home, so you know the doctor stand in for the husband or the father and the Nestle sustained, and really for the mother and the wife and. And a nursing that least relationships would almost translated from the domestic into the public sphere from the private to the public sphere, so that seemed to me really a very seductive way of leading an understanding why things the way that they wear a nothing? There was little ready bit in me that wants to disrupt that and challenge it on you know, rake apart, and so the way the I soul of doing that was partly to use my brain and develop evidence and argument in order to really most some kind of critique and hopefully change. And all of this study and learning has had a through line to what you're doing now. As the professor of nursing policy at King's College London Way, of course, you do the work of the university which educate so many nurses, you also influence a various government decisions about healthcare policy, but you've also taken on the role of President of the Royal College of noticing what a you hyping to achieve through that role. And what would you describe as you style? Style of leadership while you do it well, I campaigned mainly on a ticket of safe stuffing and trying to leverage suffering legislation in line with legislation that was being late dime in Scotland and already had been accomplished in Wales to be pleased to know that Julia that wheels was a first in order to to achieve that in the UK so trying to do that for England was a major heart of my lobbying. Let for, but of course who has actually. Stops on the legislative agenda stuffing at the moment, although actually no, that's beginning because of all the stuffing dynamics, which seen in terms of nurses, being redeployed they, dealing with the shortages in in key areas means that we really have got to at LE-. Wer efforts actually to ensure that we do carry out the only the world's nursing recommendations switches mass investment in education, not just at the at the registration student level, but also throughout the careers for nursing and I think needs to be clear settlement an entitlement. Entitlement of what not actually actually means. I would like to see personally also regulation of advanced practice, which gives the strength of leadership at the top, which we are really lacking in this simply enough senior leaders nothing to give it strength for others coming through that I think is a major driver of so-called attrition on the reasons why people actually leave and then leadership, investment and leadership, and a great to talk to the global institute mortified highway. Actually do that, but leadership. Every level has to be distributed. And that's I. Think you know those three prongs also fit you know they are. The building blocks for the build back better kind of strategy that we need to put in place and so link much of what I've been doing since covert has been trying to support members in Ho variety of different different ways rather than focusing on the legislative agenda, which is really what I say i. Do, but that's coming. So what does face? And just digging into a few of the issues in nursing today with you doing so much reform work looking at the stereotyping of noticing still we still see a profession that for example in England is ninety percent women. Do you think it would be a very changed world if that was fifty fifty men and women? Would we think radically differently about the status of? Of nosing if it was no longer associated in people's minds as sort of women's work, but was a profession that was engaged in in a January who split this is a history is helpful to Leah because out of the store core project. If you like under earlier, informative nursing was feminizing saying I mean it wasn't necessarily a jolt that was only done by. If you went in the army, lots of male attendance, we did things that we'd become similar to what nurses subsequently did so I don't think that there's anything intrinsically essentials about nursing a toll, but I think to get a fifty fifty split in nursing. You have to raise the pay, truth, conditions or nurses quite significantly before men would be prepared to come in, and of course we see many men are disproportionate number of men reaching leadership positions than the professional fat ten percent. Who Do do come in they tend to. Strive to run up the ladder and get into the base of paid positions, so I mean pay and conditions increasing decent jobs. Is definitely part of the bill that better strategy, distinct discussing pay. Betty that recently been. That's more of a slow burn thing, but I sincerely hope that we are going to see a significant stretch and improvement in the working conditions of nurses after over it it. The gender pay gap in nursing is really intriguing, isn't it? Because of such a female dominated profession, women are still disadvantaged because studies have shown that even though Mainero, only eleven point three percent of the workforce on average. They earn more than the rest. Rest of the workforce Oh even in a highly Feminazi for vacation. The main who are the end up earning more people would find that a pretty disheartening statistic is suspect. Had you think about that? You know I think many people who when they conceptualize the gender pay gap would say well. It's in industries where men and women they're doing work in women are getting as valued as the main, but they would assume to themselves heavily female dominated professions. Don't have this kind of gender. Pay Gap yet. There it is. Yeah I think it said differently, which men and women bowed you? Themselves are feel able to ask I mean this whole business of actually asking the race or going into job and go see. A higher salary that's not the that's n- often the way for nurses going in and thinking that you can actually negotiate your way into a grade, but I I think that that men do have greater sense of entitlement, and there's no doubt that they do rise up the ranks more rapidly. Since nineteen eighties this demonstrated that, and in fact, one of my former tutors from Edinburgh to the thesis in which she demonstrated that. Women although they would actually better qualified than many of the men warehousing, the writings where slowed up by a syndrome, but she called the lateral movement still do they felt they had to keep acquiring more and more qualifications before they that rose up the ranks when his main just cut through that and they just want to exercise leadership more more rapidly. They had that greater sense of confidence in the entitlement. It's something needs to be kind of dug into a thing, and maybe some of these dynamics are play died in terms of if there is a a promotion going women, but just automatically hold themselves back, actually actively promote men. I mean I've had been seeing. Seeing that they get an easier ride in practice than many of their peer in their female peers in nursing, and you can see the song and left with. Perhaps the senior does email nurse leader under and a male nurse that had kind of banter. ETC, that you don't perhaps have gender politics, working in an unexpected and quite subtle I think in sophisticates ways you probably need to dig into that more deeply and a startling statistic about the proficient dia certainly was surprised by this is that when nursing staff a survey aid? They are less likely now to resume noticing as a career to oppose than any point in the last ten years is just forty one. One percent side that they would recommend nosing as a Korea yet we face a shortage of six million noces worldwide so here we are recording this podcast still during the days of the pandemic and pandemic. We know we need noces with saying we value an nurses yet globally we are six million noces short. How do we solve a problem as biggest? That I think that's a critical Julia I, mean if and it's also a warning, actually I think that too long to be quite frank. We have taken nurses and a future in which there will be nurses, simply for granted you know much into. We'd which people say well as Labor in the whole mistaken for. For granted, he cannot rely on that in the future and I think this is a warning sign, and it's a wake-up coal or governments and they ministries I mentioned before not just in health across the piece to actually take nursing CD ASLI. It's never graduate profession, but it's not paid as a graduate profession survey we did across Europe demonstrated that a number of countries nurses salaries have still below the average wage that come to that's unacceptable. Given the complexity, the acuity, the conditions under which people have been more king and I think those have been extraordinarily stressful and distressing. We know that involved in a study at the moment. We know that from past pandemics. Makes significant. Proportion of nurses go on to develop PTSD in our survey. The ICON survey, which is a collaborative with a number of universities in the row was nursing research society. We're seeing about twenty five percent of our sample and respondents actress, seeing that they have quite severe depression on a feeling stressed by severe levels of distress. I I think the mental health issues as well as just the physical conditions. Can you imagine spending twelve hours in p. p. e.? Archie being able to communicate very effectively with your your patients, indeed your colleagues, because so many barriers visually and acoustically doing so it's very hot in there, and it's just deeply uncomfortable. Of course a lot. Support Has Been Putin. Try and help that I'm really pleased. That being is no at the top of the agenda as it's never been before, but we need to make that a priority. So it's not just the choice of recommended moving forward. It's actually they mental health SONANI that we need to see moving forward and they're already seeing signs off. Which means that necessary, simply not going to be there in the numbers which they have in the past. That's why we need improvements across the board. You know we need this mass investment in education needs create decent working conditions jobs, including promotion prospects, allowing people to progress rapidly careers, good career structure he, of course that needs to be hiked up and staffing levels, because those have also been eroded as. As we know even in intensive care. We've had a lot about those issues. One to one being reduced to one two three. In some cases, one to six patients econoline that to prevail host, endemic and leadership at every level, and especially with more advanced tools is lots of evidence. That demonstrates that nurses are not being able that you work at the top of their license in the top third game. Game they're feel. Even their full potential is no actually being able to be expressed in the workplace, and that's a function of management leadership, and that his definitely GonNa Change I always conclude these podcasts with a series of fake should questions the first of which is a fact for my guest to respond to and the fact I'm going to put to. You comes from the Royal College of Nursing Employment. Employment survey in two thousand seventeen, and it says one in three nosing staff site that they have experienced bullying or harassment from colleagues in the last twelve months with black, African Caribbean staff and nursing staff with disabilities more likely to report this than other stuff. What's your reaction to bed I? Wonder Julia whether that's part of what we were discussing earlier on of being a minority and being ushered. Bullying involves subtle tactics of exclusion and putting pressure on people to do things that they feel uncomfortable with, and I've actually been bullied myself, so I know what it feels like in the workplace and it his absolutely reprehensible has unto does until damage to the psyches at scars, the psyches of people in sand and I think we know there's evidence people from. Asian minority ethnic backgrounds don't feel the same freedom to raise concerns out of speak up because they don't have that same level of support solidarity in the workplace, and this is now being seriously tackled at this going to be a health observatory on this. There's inquiries going forward. Don't need more research. We need action now on this I government. Not Another review at it's one of the most I think pricing uplands and challenges within a within our health service, and in the social sector, or as well, which is even bigger than the health. Select I think we've got to have a reset with blood lives matter. We're landing we've to. To. Land we have to be educated about how to tackle this problem, but you have to demonstrate the political will to take it seriously and really do eight at pace. Am I think the people who are impacted by this have to be an absolutely front center in crafting the solutions and I've learned a lot from my colleagues from black minority backgrounds at the royal. College of nursing enabled swear they sued educating teaching me and I'm fully supportive of they. Seriousness with with which this is being taken, but now we absolutely need action, but those same nurses need to be in the vanguard of designing interventions and whatnot action should actually. Speaking personally, what's the worst misogyny you've had to do with in your career? Well I think one of the most difficult things in it's probably slightly amplified or has a different spin in a feminist profession I, think that nurses I'm not taken seriously as experts. He don't see nurses on the Scientific Advisory Group on epidemics, which is the major committee which is advising government on covert of course as Margaret, Thatcher says CDU advisors FIS. Politicians make decisions ultimately those are political decisions, but they infusion of scientific expertise is missing nursing at the highest level now seeing through the chief nursing officer is feeding in the second tier level, and it's very interesting, as well Juliette actually the chief nursing officer is of A. A different civil service ranking to the chief medical officer she is around below, and that's been the case since the inception of the National Health Service and that actually shouldn't be the case. I would wager that if you had practical nurses who are experts in infection control with that frontline expedients I am positive that we wouldn't be in the Pico that would currently actually in because they would be bringing that expertise on how to manage in Ho. Variety of different settings, not just hospitals that that peer homes and the Community of course, which has been really really hard hit by the deficiencies in lack of PPI especially that would make a difference to the quality of the policy-making and I think as. The first professor of nursing police in the country. That's why I wanted that title. Really because it was making a point about nurses being involved in policy-making, we're often seen this as basically doers rather than thinkers and delivers rather than designers of policy. We need many more nurses actually aptly talk table designing policy in the first place, rather than having to find work arounds in its implementations. If you were all powerful and could change one thing for women. What would it be? I think it would be education and insisting on mandatory education for all women blow barely high medium, low income countries until the rating and the reason I say that is because we know from evidence that women's education has a multiplied effect on communities improves health literacy, for example, which in itself translates into higher productivity and wealth for country so I see women's education is being hard center of the recovery from this pandemic and laying down a legacy to sustain ovulation growth and the health and wealth of nations across the globe. Is Chair of the global? Partnership for Education I'M GONNA say absolutely agree with that. Virginia Woolf says among your grandmothers and great grandmothers. There are many that whipped. There is out Florence Nightingale. Allowed in her agony and Marie Rafferty says while I think what Virginia Woolf was alluding to. There is restriction at the pace of change I agree. It's far too slow I. Think we need to build a social movement off nurses. Bring about a better future and I think that Florence Nightingale with classic case of impatience, and the embodiment of intolerance or an action I think she would have been beating a hasty path to number ten, hammering on the door, insisting that she took charge all the pandemic on was calling the shots, and I'm sure that her skills in logistics of meant that we would be not least infection control and designing the nightingale hospitals up and down the country iconic Louis named in honor to her reputation that actually we would be in a much better place if Florence Nightingale was taking charge of we need that spirit of defiance, nurses need to be more defiant and taking leadership themselves not waiting. And I'm sure building on that spirit, we will build a better future for populations both nationally and globally. What a wonderful image to end on and Marie Rafferty thank you so much. It's spent a lot. Thank you, thank you Julia. You've been listening to a podcast with Julia Gillard from the Global Institute of Women's leadership at King's College. London, the more information on our work and to sign up for updates visit mclovin institute mincy to website. This podcast is being produced by Lizzie. Allen and James Miller with kings, online and additional editing by Nick Hilton. If you've liked what you've been listening. He's racing. Reviewers with your podcast provider comeback next time for another episode of the podcast of one's own unique Gillard.

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