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Esperanza Spalding

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Esperanza Spalding

"When s bronzes spalding one new artists? At the grammys twenty eleven. She made headlines for two reasons one. She was the first ever jazz musician to win the award and two. She still best new artist from Justin Bieber. The Believers are still pissed since that first big win. Esperanza has won three. More grammys seven studio albums. Including twenty-seven exposure which was conceived written and recorded entirely in seventy seven hours on facebook. Live in two thousand eighteen inch. Release twelve little spells. It was inspired by the Japanese healing. Art Rakia with each song composed as a spell for specific part of the body. Here's a sample of one of the spells. Called Day hips interesting natural falls apart. Abbas your looking at her body of work and how she's evolved from a young digits stand up bass player jazz composer to an experimental multimedia conceptual artists. It's easy to see why. Esperon spalding sees herself as more than Jazz Musician. But our improvisational approach to toning abstract ideas into emotionally moving pieces of music. Pretty much makes her the personification of jazz whether she likes it or not. This is broken record latter notes for the digital age. I'm Justin Richmond as bronzes South Bruce Elleman Brooklyn to talk about the instinctual away. She makes Music Jammie with Joni Mitchell and aprases riding with the legendary Wayne shorter that set to be released next year while this list is really beautiful scholar. Good vibe and it's huge is actually reminding me how much I love to be in the studio. It's been about a year and I think that means it's time to go back soon. You haven't been in a studio in a year and was for that that was for twelve little spells for the four bonus spells. It's actually a sixteen little spells now because because of some of the finagling that one must do when you're dancing to the music industry which wanted sixteen originally but they don't want it twelve grand for there to be. Ah Second Wave and reason to talk about the product again I was asked and encourage more songs. 'cause apparently I'm I've yet to grow into the awareness of what it is to generate music as commodity I. My first instinct is is to figure out a way to just release it big in around and wide So I wanted to release the twelve little spells one every day at twelve twelve leading up to my birthday and I wanted to just blast them out because I wanted the the effect of the spells to reach as many people as possible But that's it's hard to capitalize on that approach some in collaboration with the label. We came up with the idea of well. Let's make former bonus balls and then there's a reason to go get the record some now. We should explain little spells. Which was your last full album. Yeah was they were twelve songs now sixteen but they were based on different parts of the body. Did the concept come first for that or did the songs come I? It came as a hit almost like an instruction manual I can remember I was in transit. I don't remember from where to wear but I know that by the time I got home to my apartment I had written out the outline of the whole project that it was twelve little spells in the title and what the title was saying which was an announcement of what this work is as an interim peace before the next big project so the titles. Twelve little spells. Tide you over till the next full thing touch and my touch in mine. The longing deep down you have to dance now. No all limbs are readying to rise dancing the animal with others and it was A. It's a sort of poem explanation of what this product is until the next project which is about dancing and movement and dancing that the wild untethered free forms of dance with structured presentation Yes so tell me I got home here. The song titles here were their effects on the body and I had my instruction manual and then I spent a month in some changes just assembling that structure assembling that entity from the instruction manual. So you roll that on the subway. No I wrote it all in a castle in Italy. Okay but The Dow is sounding better. Yeah that was amazing. That was amazing. Every morning I will be You know go from where we pick up your espresso on the morning of you so desired and they had me in the converted pig pen. 'cause I will I don't WanNA BE IN CASKS? I figured it would be extremely haunted so I would go get my espresso and walk. Around the periphery of the castle back towards my converted pig pen which is in another type Part of the grounds and pass as an Uffizi almost every day. Who's working on her book? And just that process of witnessing a master craftsmen sitting in witnessing the development of their piece page by page you know was the fuel part of the fuel. I think For making this happen because you know the creative processes abstract it feels sometimes like you're doing nothing. So it was so encouraging and affirming to witness another person in that practice accumulating that by that they came to work on thou dissolves the descriptions of you your prodigy or this year that. I would like to lean into the microphone now and Dispel those myths that hours a prodigy. Or inally I. I wasn't a prodigy. I'm I have a talent and music and I found my way early on but I have seen prodigies I know prodigies in a think. It's like A. It's like a subset of the species and I just. I partly want to dispel spell that myth because I think it's misleading in. It makes it seem like maybe there's something special or something different fundamentally above all you know my makeup as as an entity as a humanoid and it's not true in a there there are some folks who are in their exceedingly rare And then there are other folks who just figured out a way to get a lot of practice in early on. And it accumulates and then you can do things that other ten year old can't do but it's not necessarily because I was a prodigy. It's because I. I played a lot. You know practiced the will. Is that good? Because you know prodigies and being prodigy often is. It's it's maladaptive They don't it's if you're great at something when you're five often you doing the same thing at thirty five and four. You know. There's always those this great classical musicians. Who are you know who are described. As the fifty year old child prodigy Can't get past What what they did a certain age right and I the part that I hear resonate with about that quote unquote prodigy. Part is simply the part where nobody can explain why you can do what you can do. and I I think. Part of what sets prodigy apart. Is that for the same amount of time that their friend in the music school puts in this kid gets more done. Somehow somehow there's able to do more for reasons that nobody can explain and at a certain point when you want to expand past what it is you become good at but you don't remember why you can do what you do. That is intimidating and stressful. It can be and I can appreciate why you wouldn't when lean into that territory And there are some aspects about you know my practice that I'd cycling. Before the divination there are some aspects that. I'll know I'll know how that happens. How it works but when I try to apply that to a new. Let's say like riding on opera doesn't work then you just like Okay there's a process here there's a there's a skill set that must be developed to yield the same results over here as I'm able to yield over there without having necessarily mastered that skill set so Jason I have compassion for the fifty year. Old Child Prodigies Mount Their What was your first experience of music than what do you remember? Well it would be my mother singing and the House and making up little songs about whatever was happening in the moment song. She had this one. She don't need cry cozy. Emma is by Yama who love him on oven. The leave you. You don't need the crackles your Mama his you know. I'll know where that comes from. But she should always have this little soundtrack happening to life It was a wakeup song. There was prepping the meal song And that is my first memory music. My first memory of music Out There Liz. Hearing you'll Ma Amazon neighborhood like that so many times in my life but it was in your Ma Ma hearing the buck cello sleep. I don't know if it was a Omar. Is the bacteria sleaze by the way he was the vehicle and Mister Rogers neighborhood Mister Rogers neighborhood Which also the interesting piece about that episode is. After Yoma performed they went to make believe land In that episode. The next thing that happened is lady. Aber Limb was dressed as an upright bass and the other woman character was playing upright bass and I don't have a conscious memory of seeing that but that again was like the download that all came at once and then it's a humbling recommend. Oh I'm again just. I'm just following the programming that I didn't even realize I received you know what five memory on Mister Rogers Neighborhood Nevada? Actually have this really interesting it since. I only know that that happened. Because I've seen it since I don't have a conscious memory of seeing that in the episode. What I remember is hearing. I don't know it was about the time I can remember the trickling in the this Almost like pain. You know you such a deep sensation of attraction to something that I felt towards the music. That your mom was playing no conscious memory of seeing the bases but later when I saw the apples. I want all damn. I'm just I just follow instructions that all the time Those are my first memories of music. You can do worse than follow Mr Rogers men. I agree I think he did well. Angry and then you first was what well it would've been violent They didn't have any Half size of course as challenges at the program that I I S- enter. Music through Solo was fortunately or unfortunately violin and that now unfortunately didn't like violent didn't really like the. I like other people playing the violin but I will seeking that now. I will seeking what I heard. You WanNa Cello. I wanted the cello and thank God. Then I just get past the Tele Wont Right up right up to the next floor up to the base and then went. When did the base start? You know I don't know if the base has started yet it's such a immense territory and for all the technical facility one can accumulate early on a Yann serves uh very profound function music and I. I think that the older one gets more. One matures the better. They are actually being a bass player. So I don't know I don't know of base has begun Y- When you start playing. How much were you practicing? I don't remember really probably a lot. I I don't. I don't remember those early days. I just remember Playing by ear and suddenly hearing this music that I was told was jazz and having a very deep again visceral reaction to whatever they were doing you know having no understanding of what it was how it worked Yeah are you still at kind of instinctual player or I is. This is what scares people about jazz. It's incredibly complicated. It seems like endless. Scales it All that theory you know all that stuff now even though thumb. Yeah Yeah and and it never ends because the invites because I don't feel authorized to speak on behalf of the Genera anyway because our say I`Ma jazz singer when I need to be and I can play Bass for the jazz musicians but the center piece like the center of what it is. I do isn't really jazz because of that practice and devotion that is required. You don't think you have it not in that way. Not In that way as an instrumentalist which is fine is cool because I can still support the instrumentalists who are in that. Devotional devotional practice. But that's how you started. You were known as a jazz bassist won best new artist. I think Grammy Ray that right right. Yeah and still. I wonder what the parallel is in writing. It's like you can support. You can be a part of something without actually being devoting of that craft Well most writing saw e e mean writing music or right. I mean writing word. So what do you know if I go on Youtube? I see playing with Herbie Hancock and Chick Corea. Yeah what are they a? What are you giving them then? the there's gotTa be more technically sophisticated players or at least more theoretically sophisticated players. They know you're doing this by instinct. What do they get when I asked you to come play with me? What what am I getting? You're giving listening and light speed response and some dance floor for your dance mom. I'm giving you a moving dancefloor And I have studied some of the theory. Just say partially. I like to re articulate this because for any young aspiring instrumentalists listening. I WanNa make sure that I'm speaking that truth that to be a quote unquote jazz musician. Like don't listen to me. Listen to Scott colley are You Know Ben Williams a Christian McBride or Linda old or the players. Who If you if you WANNA have a q? Into the expression of the jazz pedagogy listen to those bass players. I'm doing something that's valuable and beautiful and works and supports but it's not really coming from that kind of devotional. Space is very intuitive and very much in the presence Very much something that evolves in relationship with players you know so yes I can play hurry. I can play with chick because I'm I'm becoming what is needed in that moment with my technical facility to you. Don't come as my voice as my listening as my voice. It's almost like an active listening With players like that So they are. They cause your band leaders. Well when you're playing with players that are they kind of setting the tone. And then year respondent his add more call response with them. Yeah it's it's more like well with somebody like you know Herbie Hancock Geri Allen. They want to have the conversation that can only happen with you in the room is not like here. These ten songs. You happen to be the one here so yeah come getting on this and make this work for me. Specially with her we especially with Jerry is more like oh who are you. What do we sound like together and in that space it might kind of be an advantage not be too tethered to a technical historical pedagogical approach making the music. Because then you're free to discover what's actually happening in real time which might not sound like anything that that player did before. It's going to have their characteristic but that is my superpower. You know of being president going low what what is actually right now. Let's make it and it won't probably happen again and that was that you know Do you have to do to make eye contact with a player to do that? You have to see what he's doing does here really Could you blindfolded? Yeah of course really yeah. I don't look the instrument. I play your instrument of the combination of if you're playing with Wayne shorter here handcock there. Yeah that's a great day. I wish that would happen more. You know String quartets yeah. The players kind of have to see each other cues right. How important is that in? Mind when you're playing in a jazz combo while I'm thinking of and thinking a windshields quartet they are very much connected with each other looking at each other but I am. Positively do everything. They do blindfolded because they're they're co composing a scene you know it's like I'm sure actors could have a perfectly poet and coherent improvised scene blindfolded. Because you're you're responding to the reality of emotional response you you're responding to look comes at you at eventually. A momentum of the scene is generated and that is propelling. Forward as much as you're creating as you go. You know the that mode of performance co composition. Improvisation is like that okay. Next time you with Herbie Hancock I want you to blindfold yourself and see. See how it goes. I would never ask him to do that. But I'll think I'll just I'll hold it in the space and see what happens if I don't I mean I remember Dancing Tango a little bit when I was a teenager. And you'll the certain fundamental that you learn and is an improvisational dance form right. Obviously when you're dancing with a phenomenal dancer. Everything's kind of works. You and I remember that experience of being very inexperienced and getting on the dance floor and just like Oh damn I can do. I'm good shoot every twist and turn it. Kick him all kinds of then. You go dancing in the next partner. And it's like you know. It's like fumble a silverware drawer without a divider. You know So there's also something to be said for the potency of the master you know that partially just by playing with somebody like that the The immensity of their musicianship and ability to make everything work kind of high. End Your own capacity and shows what is possible. We'll be back with more from Esperanza spalding. 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Obviously we'd never force anyone to just blindly bad be crazy but if you like stories about doomsday cults who do exactly that and more please on spotify visit spotify dot com slash last podcast to listen free. We're back with more from Esperanza spalding. Before we jump back into the interview but see your song from Esperanza second op. Some two thousand and eight and much closer to the jazz compositions. She wrote and arranged early in her career. Here's I know you know from the album. Esperanza what's it like working with Wayne shorter? You talked about his his writing before. What's playing with them? We've actually only played a few times And it felt like visiting another planet. It truly felt like we've been living on one musical planet your whole life seeing different lands and territories and cities and towns and royalities and municipalities. And then you step onto what you think is just another land. You Know Music Star. Okay here we are and all the sudden you recognize. Not all of this is different. All of this is is extraterrestrial. All of this is expansive. All of this is is just more and different and shaped like the earth. Maybe the gravity is similar but it's not He is so incredibly adept at connecting seemingly disparate ideas In a room in a conversation and musically that is it's like it feels like you. You have to start listening at light speed to be able to connect what just came over there with what's happening over there That that is nebulous I apologize. It's hard to describe it but Is it scary with someone like that? Yeah sure yeah much though. Yeah in wise. It's scary. Why is Gary? What is scaring me in that context? Is it scary is carrying a sense of. Oh Damn can I can I hang? Can I help can I wou can I feel free? What is it of the of the most that I can bring into this space? Will it have a place? Will it work? You know you know. It's like sitting on a table and a conversations already happening and ULA. I don't know if anybody hears talking about but I'm being asked to come and speak so it's something a lot having the trust that your life is enough that what you've lived Endows you with insight in perspective and presence and that other people at the table actually WanNa talk with you? So it's not about I'm able to refer to the things that you all have studied in. No it's something about having the confidence that at any point in time we can find a commonplace to converse. You always find Jewish confident when you're playing with someone that you can find it. You ever feel nervous like disgust talking about something I really. Of course we don't we all I mean. Hopefully that's how you know you're expanding In having new tastes in new experiences. You know it's not always feel equipped like coming in Sleigh I don't mean that but are there times you're playing with someone on used shorter and and you just feel like man. I'm just disappointing here. I'm not contributing while listening as contributing. I mean that's so much of the gift of some of the WHO so full like a Wayne shorter just hanging out with him at the house. I mean just just listening is becomes dialogue and become dynamic 'cause we we need to heard to you know for all that poetry in Wisdom and philosophy philosophical playmaking. That one can do. It's not fun when you're just by yourself in the House I think he's looking at amusing himself but Yeah that's that's a valuable. That's what I mean by being the moving dancefloor it is. It's valuable it's valuable to very different artists That you like and I'd like to know more about her influences Joni Mitchell who god Joni. Mitchell is interesting to me because she has. She seems to have to audiences everybody likes. Everybody knows big yellow taxi and both sides now and and people love her veer for being part of a generation but jazz people really like her. What is it your hearing in her. What inspires you? I mean Jazz. People like creative seeking music. You know in general all the desk people that I know. Don't just listen to jazz music. They listen to music that seems to be reaching and finding new combinations of the sounds that we're all working with out here essentially So what is it about her music? That would you hearing there? I think if I actually try to articulate it is going to be a lie because the obvious that points that we all are drawn to leg the the poetic imagery and the unexpected way that she illuminates a scene and brings us into a place and a space in an emotional understanding of a person or relationship. There's just There's something magical magnetic which doesn't tell you anything but I the way where I feel the draw. I can't honestly articulate. I think part of it is the the attraction to somebody showing possibility that so far beyond anything that's been revealed in that genre or mode of playing before as a quote unquote folk musician as a color as lyricists slyke watching her. I can't explain it I should say when I even said Her name you serve. Yea But your hand up to your heart like slightly stricken and that's the that's the that's the Yeah that's the mystery. The mystery you can hear strands of the sort of thing she does in. I think particularly your emily album. Okay cool that's when I discovered music ozone right Have you ever met her? Yeah for sure. I jammed at her house a few times. Okay this year last year towing that story now well I I say very surreal. Experience actually was but backup. Tell us that story are you. Are you ended up there? Who was there well. The first time that I went to her house. I went to her house because We Okay I had the backup a step further glass dear. I move to La for seven months to be near Wayne and to be on the ground. Moving forward the development this opera. Because I felt I get a gut and stagnant. Somehow you know just the the logistics of work shopping in getting it off of the but page and out of the speculative into the real and I. I need to just go there. You know Wayne having some really intense health issues and I wanted him to feel like thing is really happening like we're doing this. We're doing this. So that turned into some very inventive. Approaches to making workshops happen. Orchestral workshops happen seen workshops happen at a time when he couldn't physically right he was suffering for metabolic tremor and so we had to figure out a way to get what he had written up into an orchestra and I thought that the most embittering thing for him will be to actually feel come back at him what he had written so that it would feel like an operas really happening here. We're doing those every week every two weeks and at some point it came up. Well Gosh Johnny her that you're doing Johnny Johnny. Mitchell heard that you're doing this and wishes that she could see it. But you know it's hard for the house will bulla and I don't know whose idea was. It was her assistant. So why don't we have the rehearsal it at Johnny's House so we did? We took a Sheva formal role in the opera or shown. Just just an. She wanted to hear. When was working on and thought it was cool so she opened her home to us so we brought a piano player and about five singers and a small little orchestra probably eight players we crammed into her music room and she sat next to. Wayne and I sat next to Wayne and Frank Gehry. Who's working on the set who will be making sets also came over and it was it was just a surreal moment in time that. I actually forgot about until you said it. Because it was so surreal. It didn't seem like a part of this plane. You know 'cause those I would say. Those are two of my favorite creators of all time. You know and a lot can be said about the moment partially was surreal. Because I was so dissatisfied with the the Libretto at that particular moment I was just cringing. Like like the master of words was. They're hearing. Why like unfinished words? So ridiculous But Yeah I was. That was biting my nails. You know for the whole time. I was at the first time you've met her now. I meditate before but I didn't stick. Yeah 'cause I was just drooling and you know so. This time forming sentence still dreaming drilling forming sentences but she said she liked my my life force suit and that is that the one you're wearing when I'm running out for US forces does and that really lifted my spirits. Yeah is it. Did you design that? Of course yeah. I wanted to Stay in touch with the The focal point of my work. You know I'm seeking ways to translate though the Po- I'm seeking ways to bring us into resonance with our unique and abundant life force energy and I also wanted a break from worrying about what to wear at events or just in the street or anywhere and I knew that it was gonna be a year of hard works. I made it work suit for myself to sit. So that's all you wear the ATHOL eyewear. How many of those do you have pled eleven twelve nasty like a superhero? You just get in the cost every day. That's the that's the goal. That's the goal. Be Superhero. Yeah Yeah I'm my version of it. Be a super me. You know so what I'm interested. What Joni I've never met Joni Mitchell? Oh you will I would love to. Yeah we're both Canadian after all fax. What did she say to you? What when when she heard what you're doing man I don't remember. She said all kinds of things it was it was out of body out of body but later. I did play some jam sessions I got to play Bass for her and I got to play an arrangement for her of the wolf. That lives in Lindsey. And she doug that I did did she. Was she singing when you were playing now? I just prefer yeah once. I played for her when she was thinking like living room. Like a session. Like this you know. She invites musicians and we play the song she wants to sing. And and people play song that she wants to hear our songs that they are working on that they've like so you talked about playing with with Herbie Hancock. What what's it like playing with Joni Mitchell? Well it's the deepest listening you've ever done in your life. She's the deepest listening ever is not about women. Play with Johnny. I am listening for what she's doing in that moment and where her voice is going and I wanNA offer the the the tones the rhythms that make it feel good for her to sink at that moment you know. How did it go was perfect perfect? She Sang Lover Man a couple of the tunes old Song Government. Okay Yeah there's she loves you know. Loves JAZZ CLASSICS THE STANDARD? She had trouble for a long time finding bass player. Show said basically didn't understand music 'cause YOU DID. I'll I'll know That's interesting you did okay. Yeah Yeah we'll be back with more brisk conversation with Esperanza spalding. After a quick break. We're back before here. The rest of Bruce's interview with US Baraza. Listen to a track. Offer Album Emily's de-evolution. We'll talk a bit more about in a second I. Here's the song change us then. A storm is already a woman club owned in the live. But then see you on the on shine and for some more share overly and David Ladder Ball. That affects your young. I no hey start kicking. You said you weren't that you weren't the prodigy and you weren't even now you you describe yourself as not you don't feel like you're fully part of the kind of jazz world you're not but it's I was just GonNa say you went to Berkeley which is spike the MIT of Jazz. Oh God it's not bless its heart. It's it's an incredible convening space For everybody passionate about pursuing a grim is a it is truly truly truly is but yeah. It's it's like those terms that nomenclature of what the music is. I think that the term refers to a very specific kind of devotion. So when I'm saying I'm not a quote UNQUOTE. Desma is just out of respect for for that modality of devotion. I'm devoted to making and creating and this. That's his own thing. It's just. It's okay with me that. I'm that I'm not. You know an emissary of that devotional practice and and I think it's something also about wanting to get out from under the signifier of being desma position because I feel like in some ways I used that or it was used to promote meazza creator and now out of respect for what the the devotional practices. I WANNA. I WanNa make sure that it were clear about what's you know. Okay but because you mean you do a lot of different kinds of music. Fanta mean re listening to emily. Which was your album before this one. I think the Alma for this one. You can't get this book. But that. But Emily was a a really. Those are really heavy. I wish our co host Rick Rubin was here because he's an old metal guy he would like Guitar Solos But what were you listening to when you did that album? Damn I was listening to I A lot of David Bowie Jimi Hendrix Cream at a lot of cream but listening to cream a little bit. I had seen the documentary by Ginger Baker And you were twiss. Tony Visconti. Who PRODUCED BOWIE T REX? It's got a lot of that. Good Dr Bennett. Yeah I'm like sonically the world that. Emily needed to do what she came to do. Had those elements that you described it. It was loud and it generated movement and it was about a power trio and it was a ball an expression of power and breaking out of whatever have been practiced and whatever had become familiar. Whatever have become fixed identity? So that's what? Emily needed to to burst into existence. And Emily was a real character. That you did you. It's my it's the lava of myself. It's was the middle character a me. It was also maybe more than your other work about the songs themselves to you. Written a lot of songs pitcher we tend to think of jazz is kind of a flow true true and this was more like a song like change us. Oh my gosh that's right. There's no. There's no reason that wouldn't it? Be a top forty hit. I know that's did you want it to be a top forty hit I mean I didn't I didn't want to not be a top forty hit but That hasn't I mean Damn. I asked Emily what she wanted to do. And those are the songs that came out and I didn't ask too many questions you know there wasn't a lot of what are the. What are the influences being this like? What do we want to happen with? What will it was just like? Here's the instruction manual from Emily. Let's build it. And as he will we get and we'll more from there. You like the instruction manuals. I do like the instruction manuals at trust that because you also did an album where you said. It was on facebook live. We're going to do it in seventy seven hours. Yeah and you did the whole thing. Yeah everybody could watch well that offering that performance was the performance of the act of creation. So how do you make an album of creation mimic an album of the creation process? That was the way that we figured out. We could capture or share my favorite part of making things which is a moment where you get the hit you think of this thing. And then you forge it. That process of forging it into the thing was the focal point of that project. as an act of improvisation actually is like I quote Wayne a lot. One of my favorite quotes as he says composition is improvisation slowed down. An improvisation is composition sped up mass with that project was. Have you gone back to watch that after you down? Thank you no no thank you no. I haven't went on while it's it already happened. You know it's like it already. It was a it was a thing that was alive in a moment. It's like a kiss or a or a dance unabridged who didn't expect with a stranger. It happened and the magic of it was that it was happening in real time and then it wasn't going to happen again and that everybody with us was with us in that moment at that particular spot on the continuum of eternity so yeah. I don't I don't I don't have any need to go back and look at it Would compare it to when I was watching clips of it was let it be. Which is that's what the Beatles tried to do. They tried to show people how they were making an album. Oh cool that's why. I'm wondering if you'd have learned something about how you made music if you did that. Well part of the for opening up that process was to share the Carla the ugly moments and the scary moments and the risk and the. Yeah the the the imperfections that go into making anything beautiful so to to let it be seen that most of the process of making the song working with something. That didn't really work. But you can hear how a seed of that then led to what it became and I felt like that was something worth sharing in a moment where so much of what we interface with is polished and complete and Kinda seems like it just like woah. Dropped Down Glistening from the heavens. I was excited to share. Who Actually am who we all actually are as creators that that's most of who we are. The majority of what makes us performers artists and creators. Is that process. The finish thing is only like the last one hundredth of the whole being in on but most artists. They WANNA protect it other ninety nine. They don't want that out. That's the ugly part. I've so why do you want that out? I liked that part. I wanted to celebrate that part. And you know that's my element. Also the same way that performers get on stage. Show their best stuff. They show like the best that they had to give to me me. Creating is my best steph. That's why I wanted to share that as the performance Which is kind of a jazz idea? I mean probably more than more than pop the SAM. When did Singing Star for you? I'm you know I was thinking I was like that really matter. I mean probably eight or nine or ten. I feel like maybe we could talk about. What's what's brewing. Now I mean singing started when I was it out in the world probably fifteen and I. I feel like this particular moment in my life as a creator. I'm less interested in like the origin and I'm more interested in now as an origin point. You know okay well let me reframe. I'm interested in. I'm interested in what's happened because I went back and read some early reviews. And they'd say oh. Her slender voice says she sings along. And then you listen to these albums and you're like no that's like a powerhouse gay. I don't really think about my voice. I have to confess it. Some I really I practice. You know I try to sing to build I. I studied to sit to build capacity in different TAMBOR's and all that but then you sink compose. I do think the compose so you're working on this opera. Oh my God. Thank you Segue I'm are you singing. Those parts are you. I will sink in some capacity in this odd. No I don't mean in final harm you in the final product. I mean the when you're working on it. Are you singing in your head? Are you singing out loud? Sometimes this process will make an opera is upside down inside out from how operas usually mate because it took me so long to get the little written that Wayne. Ardy wrote all the music. So now we're reckoning with this incredible body of work. Which is the music that he wrote sort of in these three acts already and drying story and language out from that So in that case sometimes I sing. But I'm actually trying to hear what an operatic voice would do with one of these lines And there's a lot of speaking because some of the passages the music functions as the environment and they're having conversation representative it's called or sometimes just spoken through thinking about or further unpacking that invitation to write what you wish for the opera seeks to interrupt the repetition of the same story being played out that's played an original myth and. I'm looking for a way that as a writer I can even interrupt the way. The endings are usually created What's the what's the is common method evidence? So she's the one who gets her throat slit while she sacrificed. So that the winds will return. And that Agamemnon. His brother in the fleet they've assembled to go recapture. Helen can sail across the ocean to Troy It's all it's the story before the Trojan Horse Story that we all know And I this process of Meghan Opera has unlocked question about who gets to tell the story even me as a as a woman in the twenty first century and is a time when voices that have often been in the background. Now get to come up. And and and direct new narratives. New Speculative narratives we get to bring to the to the arena are stories that have been silenced for so long even in this space. I'm asking the question. How do we how do I? How do we how do I break the cycle of tyranny of the individual voice of Storyteller and I I wonder what becomes possible in the telling of this story when figures people characters who are often scripted into storytelling opera? Singers musicians or actors. What becomes possible when they're voice activated in the actual design of the story in the telling of the story That is really really challenging to do. It's beyond my capacity right now but that's that's what we're reaching for. Who's telling the story now? Well I am I mean and Euripides told it and it's it's part of the Odyssey and it was surely a myth that had been passed on for generations before it got written down But I I am. I am really curious right now. What happens when the ending isn't prescribed and instead of barreling towards what we've been told must happen. We say no what happens if we leave space for an unknown ending to emerge from us. I guess co creating real time to. That's the sort of that is the jazz ethos isn't it? We're going to substitute chords. Were going to change it well. And all of those are just methods for approaching life in real time an improvising in response to what's actually happening you know it's not about like I'm GonNa change a chord because I'm a jazz musician is about while I have. I have access to enough Material that I can respond to with actually happening From a large batch of PAS movie I'm not I'm not fixed by what I've practiced. I'm not fixed by what I've learned is supposed to happen next aisle. That's it. Yeah I'm not. I am not limited to what I've learned as opposed to happen next. That's the key to how I WANNA break open ending of this opera. Yes right. I'm glad we're talking about this. He seems a perfect place to stop. Yeah Amazing Heart will thank you so much. Thank you thanks. That's spalding. For taking time away from crack in his story structure of her upcoming opera. To talk with Bruce you can hear all of our favorite. Esperanza spalding songs. By checking out the platelets for this episode at Broken Record podcasts Dot Com broken records produced help from Jason Gambro. Michelle Lee rose for pushing industries a theme. He's expect any beats. I'm just in Richmond. Thanks for listening.

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Esperanza Fills Health Care Gaps On Chicagos Southwest Side

Reset with Jenn White

17:20 min | 1 year ago

Esperanza Fills Health Care Gaps On Chicagos Southwest Side

"Hi I'm Jen. White and this is reset fifteen years ago. Residents of Pilsen Little village had a meeting with that ministers from Saint Anthony Hospital. They wanted to address the lack of accessible health services in the area that result. They opened a community health center on South California Ebony called S Ferenza the Spanish word for hope today. Esperanza has four sites on the city's southwest side that offer bilingual primary care and behavioral health and Wellness Services. One of Esperance's main goals is closing the gap and mental health care across. Chicago's southwest side. Dan Full Wyler the. CEO of Esperanza Health Centers joins US for more complete picture of who they are and what they do as you said. We were really founded to address the need for High quality the primary Care Services on the southbound side specifically for Spanish speakers about seventy percent of our patients are Spanish speaking. And we like to meet them where they are so all of our providers both both physical and mental health are fully bilingual. And we're very proud of that. What is your approach to providing mental health services and comprehensive healthcare? Are there specific things you take into consideration. Yeah there are definitely our mental. Health is a huge problem in the communities that we serve especially because people can't necessarily take the time to do what they need to do. So people are working fulltime jobs during the day maybe hourly jobs. They can't get off time during the day to see a therapist sometimes two jobs and so sometimes it can be really hard for them to meet their needs so we do a lot of things to try and meet that we have extended hours open into the evening four nights a week. We also or open every Saturday from eight til five and so that really helps ease some of that burden but one of the things that we do really important we think is that we do what we call. Integrative behavioral healthcare so all of our behavioral health therapists work really closely with our physical health care providers are doctors and nurse practitioners and they're actually available in the clinic all all day long. So if a doctor for instance is in the clinic with a patient and I think this happens quite frequently. WHO's having complaints? Maybe sort of vague complaints complaints like my back hurts or I'm having problems sleeping a lot of times. That can be the result of a mental health issue. And what's happening is that there's so much sizing that they're taking mental health both issues and putting them into their body and a lot of times. Doctors can help with some of those things but they also really need somebody to back them up to pass that person off to say you know. I think if you talk to our counselor she might be able to help you or he might be able to help you. They can address some of the anxiety that those people are having a lot of times. The physical health complaints can get better. Is it difficult to to get people to think about their health in that way because so often we think of a physical element is just that a physical element that can be treated with medication. or or maybe a surgery. We don't necessarily connect it to our into absolutely. It can be difficult and I think that it's one of the things that we can see with a lot of patients actually when I've struggled with my own mental health issues. Sometimes you get those issues under control and all of a sudden other things that you had start to melt away you start to sleep better you start to be less anxious at work and so forth. There's still a lot of stigma around mental health and especially in communities of color. And so that's something that we really have to deal with two and a lot a lot of time having that person right there to pass somebody off to so if the physician is working with somebody and they can pass them to the council right away and make that introduction. It's less threatening. Because they already know that person they say oh you know. There's concert has really here to help me. I don't have to like make an appointment and then worry and be nervous about it before I come if they're not familiar with this kind of system and so we've found that that integrated care can really help address that issue of people not realizing what's the difference between mental and Physical health issues explode more about the demographics of the population. You Sir yes sure so. Our patients are about ninety five percent Latino in terms of the country of origin. Most of them are from. Mexico are adult. Patients are about fifty percent uninsured about fifty percent have insurance. Most of them on Medicaid our children are almost all insured through Medicaid program and so they're really low income working folks who don't have health insurance through their job before maybe working irregular jobs nannies or cleaning people or things like that where they don't get health. Insurance and Medicaid is a real life saver for those people in talking talking to patients and medical professionals working at Esperanza what's emerged as some of the big barriers people face when they're trying to access mental healthcare. I talked about stigma already. I do think that stigma has has reduced in the last ten or twenty years. People are talking about more. It's become more normalized. I mean we have the media to thank thank for that. We have a lot of discussion in our society to help. But I think the other thing is payment and in Illinois for instance We get paid about fifty four dollars for visit from a Medicaid patient for therapy but that visit cost us over seventy dollars to provide and so we actually wind up subsidizing the state To provide that service for the uninsured patients aren't insured patients. Pay Five dollars for a visit if they can't afford that we'll waive it But that service still cost seventy seventy dollars and so raising money to cover that. So I think that payment is a big problem. I think people who have private insurance recognized this as well. You know there are limitations the mental health services and so forth and even though there have been laws passed that say we need to treat them the same They're not really quite the same yet to in our society in terms of reimbursement embarrassment on the way that the system treats them so we we have to talk about a sustainable model for Esperanza you are at this point subsidizing the state jumped Yep to provide this kind of service. How have you developed a model that you you can sustain all of the services she provided? Yeah well we're really lucky because as a community health center where technically called the Federally Qualified Health Center. That's very giardi But we do receive a grant from the federal government that helps offset part of the cost. We also do a lot of fundraising so we have events and have private that donors and so forth and and we do a lot of that. Work and grants can really help bridge the gap a lot of time. Grants from foundations are short term or maybe medium-term and so- sustaining network over. The long term can be difficult. Now I want to bring another voice into this conversation on closing the gap and access to mental health care on the southwest side. Tanya on your Las Sano is founder and CEO of Healthy Hood. That's a community center based out of Lincoln United Methodist Church in Polson Tonya. Welcome to the program. Thank you for having having me. So you've seen the need for mental health services in your area firsthand. Tell us about healthy hood and and how. It's working to address mental health issues on the southwest side. A healthy hood was Birth to combat the twenty year life expectancy gap that exists between communities of Color and affluent communities in the city of Chicago. It's actually the largest. Life expectancy gap and all of the nation And so we really started off providing fitness and wellness classes to the community by instructors instructors of color and so we have a very obviously were very popular place in underserved communities and so having the physical community at our space. We were really able to see that the mental health really. It's an epidemic at this point is really specifically targeting these underserved communities. You're putting together research on this issue. Talk a bit about fat right. So though the mental health initiatives of that we've begun really is volunteer base so we have about seventy five mental health professionals of all kinds Who are providing their services for free to the community out of our space so we have eighty volunteers and each of them are donating biweekly session? So it's really just two hours a month of volunteer work for these mental health professionals and so we really are kind of doing an exchange of services concept here but we're specifically me trying to expose the flaws in the healthcare system pertaining to the undocumented community and the immigrant community the most of the members of our program are either either undocumented or members of a mixed that his family meaning somebody one or two members of their family are undocumented. What we're trying to do with the research component is expose that the political climate is contributing to the mental health epidemic and it needs to be acknowledged and it also? We need to acknowledge that. An epidemic isn't a coincidence. And just like any epidemic. There needs to be a plan for urgent aid so this initiative is called. Get your mind right. It went live last month. All the slots were filled within fifteen minutes. What kind of feedback have you heard from people who are participating well number one? They feel that the access has contributed to the stigma and or the lack of access. I should say has contributed to the stigma so in being able to provide this service for free. It's also helping with taking away that stigma but I think it does go to show that people are in need of these services on are willing to you know take advantage of services but it the way that the healthcare system is set up. Br Pacific pretending to mental health makes it almost impossible for undocumented or uninsured people to access it and so I think it's. It's an exciting hiding time. But it's also a time to to branch out and not deal with just our physical community at healthy hood but if figure out a way to get policy Who acknowledge that? Something needs to happen while speaking of policy. What would you like to see from the city or other community organizations when it comes to addressing the lack of mental mental health services in the area I think just the overall system itself and how it set up? The education is not Completely culturally competent. Can't it's set up to kind of compliment the capitalistic system right. So that these people these health mental health professionals specifically of color caller. I'm going to school to gain all of these resources. But the only way for them to actually make any money off of all of their education and their career to provide these resources to people who can afford them and unfortunately fortunately those are affluent people. So that it's just contributing to this. Life expectancy gap and just like the field. It's been on was saying. Is that the mental aspect it's contributing to all of the physical diseases and You know have unhealthy habits that are causing the life expectancy gap. Will you hope to open the. Get your mind right. Programmed more people in the coming months as soon as March. How can people sign up or learn more about the services you provide right? So you could visit our website at healthy hoods shy dot com shy like Chicago and you find more information there we also on all social media platforms as healthy shy as well but there will be spots opening up soon so I don't want people to get discouraged because they got filled so quickly way we're setting it up is that we really truly believe that healthy hook that community heels best and so when you sign up you're GONNA you're GonNa get that individual attention for a minimum of four sessions but then at the healers discretion to be able to move on to group therapy and there is where we think the actual work is going to happen. It's also going to allow for slots to open up for new participants. That's Tania Lewis of healthy hood. Tonya thanks so much for speaking with us. Thank you so much for having me and here in studio with me as Dan full wiler. CEO of Esperanza health centers and Dan. You're nodding along as Tanya was speaking there. What really sit out to you? I really admire the work that Tanya is doing so much. I actually just heard about this week as well. And it's really great to see somebody who's taking the bull by the horns and really making making things happen in the community. I think that when you look at the the way the program is set up though. It's a little bit discouraging. Because she's got all these wonderful wonderful volunteers who are doing great work. But it's also just not sufficient to meet the whole need and I think what Tanya pointed out in terms of reimbursement is sort of the same. The thing I was saying. which is we as society really need to value the service and valuing it means we need to pay so that people can actually make a living doing it you you she mentioned private therapists who go to school and then have debts to pay off? You know if they're working for private insurance they might get one hundred and forty dollars dollars for a visit hundred and seventy dollars for a visit. If they're going to see a medicaid patient they're going to get less than fifty dollars for that visit so at a policy level. What do you think needs to change to make it easier for people to access mental health services but also to make sure there are enough providers in communities to give those services? Absolutely I mean I do think we need payment reform and I think we need to think about that really significantly. There are some really interesting things going on in Chicago right now in terms of payment reform. I think that Cook County is thinking. Cook County County care is thinking about that really closely and I know that At the Department of Healthcare and family services they understand that this is a problem and they're working on it so I'm hopeful for that. Well the city shut down half its mental health clinics and in twenty eleven there are now six on the campaign trail and while in office mayor. lightfoot pledge to repair the city's mental health system at the city level what would you like to see when it comes to addressing the lack of mental health services. Yeah so I think there are a couple things there. The mayor has been very clear that she feels that. There's inadequate adequate mental health services in the city. I think she's also pretty clear that the city can't meet all those needs by themselves the clinics that the city closed ten years ago or so. Really you were a drop in the bucket compared to the need They were serving several thousand patients. But they're over two hundred thousand people in the city who need mental health services. And so I think that's her plan man she put forward a plan to really fund additional care in neighborhoods By private nonprofits. Who can really amplify a grant from the city by helping leveraged dollars from additional sources to serve more people and get more people into care. I think the other thing that the city has done that's really important is to create an access slime for this and I think you may have the number for Nami Chicago. But they're actually an organization that is serving as a clearinghouse for the city of Chicago. I'll go to help people get the care that they need and I think what what the other guest was talking about is really important. That people don't know where to go and that is a huge issue there actually maybe armour services than people are aware of at as Barranca for instance. We can see patients this week both for therapy and for psychiatry. We have appointments available. They'll probably fill up by the end of the week but we can get people in relatively short order so sometimes there's a disparity between knowing where to go and then the you know that there are services but people don't know how to get them. I sat out of the city shut down to health clinics in two thousand eleven. It was actually two thousand twelve. Just wanted to correct that you know we were talking to Tanya. She said something that stood out to me about healing coming from the community and your work at Esperanza. How do you center community and community connection in your work work? You know. That's so important. I can tell you a little bit about one of the programs that we do that we think is really valuable. I think everybody's heard about the the problems in the Chicago. The public schools with offering mental health services. So we're very active with community organizations the marshalls square resource network. Is One of those. It's located in Marshall Square which is sort of the east part of little village and part of that. I meet on a regular basis with other people who are involved in the community including principles and one time one of the principals came to me her name missile Orbit from Hammond Elementary. And she said you know Dan I got this real problem. I've got eight or ten kids This is a K.. Through eight school. Who just can't can't sit still during class? They're acting out all the time they're having problems with emotional regulation and honestly they mess it up for everybody else and she says I've got some counseling. Thank services at my school but what they're really for is dealing with kids who are already on. IEP's involved individualized educational plans. They do a lot of paperwork but they're not doing therapy. And what these kids is needed therapy so through grant that we got from westside united. We were actually thrilled to put a counselor in that school one day a week. And that countered deals with these kids whose parents or maybe working two jobs. Don't have time to take the kid to weekly therapy sessions. How are they gonNA find weekly therapy in the evening anyway? These kids really need therapy in school. Cool and so we provide these kids weekly therapy and the principal said. It's a godsend because it doesn't only help the kids that you're talking to their but it also helps all all of the rest of the school because now the kids can all attention in class because they're not to start by this disruptive behavior that's Dan Full Wyler the CEO of Esperanza health centers on Chicago's southwest side and you can always reach out to Nami the National National Alliance on mental illness at three one two nine six three zero four four five and that's Today's reset. Make sure your subscribe so that you never miss a conversation conversation or tell your smart speaker to play reset with Jen White. I am the aforementioned Jen White. Thanks for listening. 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Esperanza Spalding

Questlove Supreme

57:03 min | 1 year ago

Esperanza Spalding

"There is a real person out there a modern day hero who has saved one hundred and forty lives. His name is Brian Stevenson and just mercy is a new film based on his powerful true story about his never ending. Fight for Justice Against All odds starring Michael B Jordan Academy the Award Winner Jamie Foxx and Academy Award Winner Brie Larson every generation has its hero meet hours just mercy only in select theaters. Orders December twenty fifth everywhere January Tenth Ques- love supreme is a production of IHEART radio. You're good at a at spontaneity making fit up super premium of roll call so prima so promote roll call so so so Primo. Roll Call Suprema Su Suprema Roll Prodigy. Oh Yeah Winter Berkeley Grammy Jack. J. B. Talking Emily Roll. Oh call suprema supremo bro Sugar. Yeah I have a question about jazz for Double Bass. Yeah Yeah you need double hands up. Pretty supremo Oh come on paid bill. Don't give no Fox by his book. UH fremaux wrong. What any now I bill and your body? Yeah I can make it for you quit or wrong hot toddy surgery. UH PRIMA PRIMA PRIMA Ladies and gentlemen welcome to a weird episode of course Love Supreme. It is raining outside bomb. Cyclone all I can say was that liability. I left from the same destination but I decided to violate some traffic law to get here in time because our guest as today has to be out with the quickness so Stephen System that we do the theme without building light here. Yeah yeah he insisted why because they gotta learn right. That's absolutely later. No the we never. We never overdubbed the thing. That's not true anyway. Ladies and gentlemen. This is quest supreme so we're joined by the exquisite. The remarkable ever expansive the gifted juice. Me Yeah we are because the original the inspiring one of the coolest prolific creatives amusing today and most importantly as a native of one of my all time favorite cities on Earth Portland Oregon. Yeah we ladies and gentlemen please give it up for Esperanza spalding. Yeah so are you doing s after all that. I'm good settling settling settle. Yeah and I reflect back for for you to you everything you just said about me yeah. I'm grateful I'm very out of bed with I'm learning except supplement accepted a new. Replace my life book. I'm learning to accept for years tells you accept compliments. Are you good about what compliments I just. Just let 'em roll and often bounce back to be real also figure you can't perceive it if you don't hold it you know I want you to hold the compliments. Yes all those things. Okay and when can I sit closer to you. You sound pretty great based on his Asthma osmosis emanate off. Normally like I guess like the back of my hand when they come to the show. But I can't help help. But notice that in your bio and your Wiki buydell they had factoid in there that kind of took me back. Ah which for me like the idea of Portland Oregon. The words gang activity never seem to mix the Portland of now. You try to translate and also if you come from like New York or Baltimore or La. I think gang activity in Portland is like a little little paper Cup that you get by the Cooler Office. Yes with the way they were trying to paint. It was like you know music is your salvation neighborhood and uh-huh so am I to believe that there's a difference between Portland Oregon and Nicholson Gardens or no. This is just like I mean if if you're growing up in sleeping in the bathtub because their guns outside and you've never been to another city it feels it feels imminent if feels dangerous if he'll scary. And that was the reality for a few years going up and raised but you know comparatively to some other cities. I think we had a mild. They were wiling okay. I'm that's the thing the fact that you had it all sacks because people are genuinely jaw dropped when I tell them that Portland Oregon is hands hands down my favorite city on earth. More than half my record collection comes from. They're not saying like I'm music. Yeah well the thing is your record dealers really. Don't know the value of certain things so Portland is the place that light Japanese record dealers. Fly too well. Hello to come and buy records. Emi Sell them back. I'm in four thousand bucks. I meant yeah her vintage clothing just for the record as well no they really don't. Yeah it's a trip. It's like everybody just figured it out. But that reality that you're talking about was like our secret. 'cause as we were provincial. Kind of you always move like didn't know that the world is. We're looking at Portland like that too. Like beat makers and whatnot. I would lead them to Austin. What's my second favorite city? But I sent him down South far away from my dough. Dane Portland Oregon. So what was was your childhood like. Did you grow up in a musical family or now I I grew up with a single working mother and a big brother and I grew up just in a funky Funky neighborhood it was. I didn't know that it was grimy. Because that's all that I had but I know that we weren't allowed to go outside because it felt dangerous. You know after the street lights came on we had to stay in And I remember I remember wanted to always be at the piano and always wanted to compose a when my mother took the dog for a walk. I would makers Chris Sing harmony with me. That's what I remember my childhood start. What Army Mike? Yes good here. Yeah ages there because I know you're a phenomenon I'm blessed here. I mean I don't know if I'm a fiend. I've worked a lot at stuff when I was a kid but yeah very musical. I mean and honestly I don't remember they they saying yeah. She's not denigration where everybody could play piano. Could play piano and read piano music. You know so for me. It was just like anything that I heard on the radio or on television end credits I will go find it. The Piano and that was the beginning of my compositional journey. Can you remember Knbr the first record that you purchased Ooh it was You born in eighty four. Don't you give me A little bit of love. It was probably is psychology down. It was probably rimsky-korsakov's because it was though and maybe some cheapo muscle. I was really into cheap when I was a kid. I probably bought an early. People Mucho record. This is a frigging arts high school so you know we were in tallest we. How old were you when you brought your I her? We'll be twelve. That was how I could afford music because there will be in the bins for fifty cents. Also you see the cool cover and then you get to try it out and see if you want ninety four ninety five this when you brought six yes okay. Yeah what was your first record. My first is actually Z.. Nerdy I did the one thing police station with the worst but I have no shame in my game you know like when especially seventies kids one. My parents didn't believe in babysitters so much qualified. Okay Yeah I love it when I'm not doing the preference if it were babysitters I wasn't allowed to talk to strangers and you know I had I afro that rival yours as a five year so of course you know like the whole primitive exotic way all white women come and buy me stuff. I wasn't allowed to ask for strangers for anything and this woman comes up to me. Your name is Ellie. She's like records and then she got a Napkin and Finn and she took took my order down and then the next night came back with the Fisher price record player. What's she gave me my first three records which was wow which way have questions about women that painter expectation on the world right? You just expect to ask some White Lady's GONNA show up and the I love that interest and should be me this white lady talk like that lady no contracts into like I cannot do that white purchased me I. I think I don't know why I liked Nielsen. Dacca's bad blood. I don't either AH BAN BLUBBER decker One of these nights by the Eagles subsequently scared me roof soccer cons dance with me looking through the windows by the Jackson. Five this is all explains quite a bit I am i. V Record was the fifth dimension version of love hangover which was outweighed mm for Diana Ross. The first one you physically but not a white lady but for you I got a good report card in the third grade so I my uncle who gave me five for five bucks. You could buy the Jacksons destiny and switches switches. Oh you right there with me. motherfucking switches which is debut view album for like two nine thousand. Nine two thousand. They do you know what a track is I have the mad hatter on track for no reason just just sitting around. Yeah I mean as Ranjit is an old. What's old? She is the person so anyway. I have memories that predate my birth I do. I'm holding them. I appreciate hey that though because a lot of people that are born. Eighties seem to think that they don't have to do any research whatsoever about what happened in life before light so true when I when I do the movie reference or whatever they're like I mean we've been dating I was born in Nineteen Ninety. Eight downplay completed my point. Is that no look older than I am. All right you don't disarm Assam. Welcome one welcome all welcome. You do yours and March to the beat of any drum at starbucks. We know that wellness has a lot more to do with finding your unique journey than following the latest trends. That's why we have something for every taste every craving every mood and every you like our new coconut milk law Tei an almond milk honey flat white because not journeys are the same and what makes it right is that it's yourse- Baraza. I'm yeah how old were you there. So all right. So how did you actually discover instruments and what. What is your instrument of choice? Because you do everything you sing. Well you play bass well you do piano. What like what is your? I'm starting to think that the instrument is my life. Did you know those are the details. Yeah no I mean it's true I've been thinking a lot about just the potency of word and sound anywhere that we are and trying to hold hold my existence I interface people as the instrumental exchange. Because I know the power that sound has and I've been so focused on this like the Shit I got it today to be able to do things and recently I'm like damn but there's already people who can do that you know there's already that masterful Bass player that's already taken it to the limit. There's that massive book lists was taking it all the way. Now I'm thinking about like what is the practice to make every sound that I make an interaction that I make like they'll beautiful performance conversations the station of something I read in my take. RC's book Princess Ex Wife She said that he told her that to live every day. Like a work of art. And that's that's someplace really a fan of it. Yeah as a practice so free so frank it. Okay musician you well. You're probably doing that. I'm just coming to the consciousness. I think a lot of this show to quote when he talks about the premise of the philosophy. This Buddhism not practices. And he said you know with it you get to create value out of everything that's happening and I think that's very much what we do as improvisers when we're in a musical sickle space. I've whatever the raw ingredients are in the studio with the song. Sketch you activate the creative powers to turn that into thing so he talks about applying that's everyday life and and he says because if you're not practicing that was practicing you must really like that but that's that's been practicing artists right. We've been practicing this creative capacity to take nothing or take fragments and make something like that's the Alchemy of making art so these days just you ask. That's what I'm focused on. That's the instrument that I want to study practice and master I gotta say okay that High Five when I when I first got to New Year of I guess you could say we known each other at least over ten years right. Yeah Wow two thousand seven two thousand your new ten years ago. You're very much. Yeah a little over ten years ago. You're very much like the character Bleak Gilliam and mobile blues because character. Moment I by the same dress for both my girlfriend. Yes I do anyway we it was. We saved numbers. I call you and you like hammers and right now you know and then I call two hours later. You're like yeah numbers by the seventh time I was like. Oh she's like the only person I a new that rehearsed longer than you was Now what's his name Jackass phone player who David David Murray Oh. Mary told me that he says on average practices ten hours that while madness. Yeah I don- but just quickly the plug for an album with Terri Lynn. Carrington Jerry David Murray. That's an amazing album for the record. No base because Jerry Allison on the base but anyway back a to us. Yes yeah I think I remember every time I will call you. You're on a treadmill. Look when he still wants to talk and he still breathing warning times when I was doing. Twelve twelve gigs. Okay so gun to your head. What is your favorite instrument? What she's like ours to your question about our? It's my life man. I'm telling you like it's. It's not about the instrument right now. I obviously love the base of his. I love the voice but like truly the practice right now to me is like polishing the instrument of my humanity because everything emerges from there. There's a fire house right now. Where do you see at least? Yeah Yeah Your House Gun to your head really really violent. Show sorry about all the sudden she can. I just ask you a question about the way you grew up because because I read something interesting about how you had to be home school because of something that you went through physically as a kid and as you were talking about rehearsing I was like well. I wonder if if you're rehearsing It comes from the fact that you at home a lot and you have to practice a lot. I'm just curious. Can you explain yum. I don't know if if there's a connection it feels very personal my are cool Once you get into us on let's go. Let's go. No she means yeah. Yeah was that more time to practice as opposed to I watched a lot of Jerry Springer. Thank you yeah. Yeah and you know that was before under civil practice before practice was like suffering or thing you supposed to do because you had to do it so it just be like you remember member well before there was any sort of a four track recording device. Do the thing where you have to tape recorders recording thing over. Ah I did a lot of that. You know like five year old so how exactly. That was a lot of my of my time. What age or what year did you master your craft now? I'm still learning. True is true and also that word master is as problematic for me right now like tation since I'm just saying like a master of what like master of what really okay. Windy when did you get comfortable with your skills as a musician well. I'm lot comfortable with them. But that's not that's not a problem. Okay I yeah well daily going on stage you play is of course the last time joy. That's the joy that is the practice to like. If you know there's some some shit that scares you and you're willing to like dive through a dive in like that is the practice. Maybe yeah I like to know that it might not work. You know what I mean. I like to know like Oh shit. How are we going to get out of this one? I like this. I love it so this this is weird to hear these answers. Okay but yet. Most of your songs are like seventy meter these odd times and these dissident modulation colletion. Yeah I mean for those. That don't understand like one in Layman's talk or whatever I mean it's like the daredevils equivalent of of the tight rope walking Empire State building another force do sports wants. Thank see your head. So what I'm saying is is is that I mean. You'd gained six seven albums deep in walking the wild side. So feel I mean that's All all you like. It's not like it. Maybe it's just not that deep like I just do what I hear if I hear some shit it and I can comprehend it if I have the whisper of the sound of the premonition of the sound. I just go to make that sound. You know what I mean so as the speaking tonight you're you're doing on a collaborative project with with Robert Robert. Yes I is. Crystal and trump is Justin Tyson author. Just so with this with that particular situation. Are you nervous about your to the US really. Yes Robert is still. Oh my God awed but that's the thing it's not about. What makes you nervous because of WHO? He is what he might do. Well I feel very well. He might do they might do. I feel very Dan Dan comedy before anything else also like I remember something that George Weaned said. Once he's Oh you young you get into jazz. And you're doing intuitively like you're studying and it's all cool anything like oh I got I can do this. Then you get like ten fifteen years and you realize how hard it actually is and then all the sudden only like God damn like thank God. I didn't understand how intense this was like. I'm at that place right now where I'm just like Holy Shit like there's so all much more that I I want to do and study and train him. Have you met a composition that you've yet to inward M moored. Yes isn't that the gift like what the Hell wouldn't be fun if you like. This shit's Don Minefield. Like you feel like the second that you feel comfortable like okay. Yeah Nexen everything's over likes sway. Wow but you're like that like why. Are you going to new place. Now he will. I love you. Don't want to be challenged. I'm going to enjoy this. I'm GonNa Reenter your life through the phone communication which I know you hate no I actually. I'M GONNA buy your book and see if this changes you overtax. Do I prefer talking on the phone again. For the exchange you know but right now like what I really would love to do really really really in music. Honestly is to harness harness the best practices for music therapy and neuroscience say what and like. Get that into like a playbook that other musicians can use. And it's not like you have to be explicit like like we're using these tools but just like these combinations of chords have this effect on the body like these combinations of rhythms like how God no L. Greene theory sound Beth. Okay done and done done a lot of cosmic crazy shit. Yeah I read an interview with DJ quick about about ten years ago and he's talking about the way he approaches. When he's making beats is like he he keeps people's heartbeats beats in his thinking about the heart? I love doing that so it's kind of. I'm kind of getting that same vibe graves familiar with him. There's there's a beautiful documentary called a full mantis about his work. He's been exploring this as a percussionist and actually what he discovered ended up informing like the medical field. He is the one who discovered the measurements for heart rate variables. You know and this was coming from his question as a percussionist hardawy affect and he'll the human heart rhythm and I just like I say this because as artists like I was saying before we have been practicing something very unique. We have a superpower and it's incredible and we feel. Oh that through our our intuitively and through study and practice and I just feel like right now on planet earth like we have an incredible gift to be offered through this medium of music. People Trust us. They need us. It's like we know that we're administering medicine. I'm excited at this particular. Moment of how that medicine can be like supercharge with our friends and colleagues over in the science world. Oh you know you're literally got an email from somebody who is like the CEO of musical health technology so that's literally the and you went to Kappa with them. Yeah Oh oh is supposed to out here. It's happening it's happening. And maybe it'll all come back around to what we already do intuitively like we've been doing this. But you're telling the truth with because you remember like some time ago when terrence Howard talking a little bit crazy on the carpet all at times they learn what you know twitter Phil de he was actually telling the truth one hundred percent. Well why he did it. In such a cosmic way he didn't send a cosmic way that were just set off twitter like he crazy. Well the thing is you know when people talk about like meditation and and kind of metaphysics in all that stuff. Anything that ain't in the Bible right exactly. We're getting their people will be too hard on this and it's gotTa history. No we need we are. We are doing it more often than not when it comes to meditation and things of that nature. That's not be hard on us so all of us here know it so have been putting off this thing for like nine months where I'm like. What the hell's the sound bath okay? You'RE GONNA play gone and I'm GonNa do some breathing exercises the mayes and it's GonNa Change my life right. Don't give birth to these keep talking thing please please. I love that. I'm just saying that. That's how closed close. I was to the idea of it and then I went into the most transformative like experience of my life. which and it's so hard? It's it's like I would have probably easier. Make you think that there is a Santa Claus. Wow what you're actually speaking into existence things that happen where these people play music in meditation. And it's it's it's passed a tantric orgasm like it's passed all of it especially for yes Hi We recommend it. What what it was experience it like? Okay how do you explain middle. Yeah I didn't know what it is experiential. You know like okay. I practiced Reiki people. Ask Me what it is. I'm like I can try to explain it to you. It'd be like if you never heard music and I'm trying to explain to you. What the sensory experience of hearing organized sound is you fill it in your body and when you feel it you get what the shit is but until then it really doesn't help to explain sprint's believe like when when you see homeless people talking talking to themselves on the street money from me a group on one really know my? My dream is to organize this for my loved ones Like I'm GonNa try and figure out how can do it for fifty people. But in the meanwhile I have to get them open to the idea of doing this because mine took me me about my experience was like eight hours what I got there for thirty and after all the crying and screaming and all that shit was done. You know I'm telling my girlfriend. Oh okay let's go get some needs. She's like Babe it's thirty three forty five in the morning literally. Yeah it's it's it's you went in the most intense therapy thing that you'll ever deal with and your life. I think that we might be one of the few cultures that doesn't have an articulation for the medicinal properties of music. Do an Africa. I think that's what I'm saying. American in this in this nation in our culture. I think that it's actually very common knowledge. In in many many cultures that you utilize music for specific functions for grieving for births for birthdays. I celebrate for even for medicinal reasons you know and I think that right now. We're coming back to that. Maybe that ancient understanding and I I I know a lot of musicians who are asking like. Okay so how do I. How do I am Byu what I do with that when you were speaking about wanting to bring your family into it I'm like damn? Is that something you can do from the stage like. Is there a version Dan where you like we've some of that potency into what's being disseminated for the whole audience. Okay that's real it. It is not real. I see she's I'll give you a better example now hearing that nineteen minute version of Pharaoh Sanders Anders. The Creator. Has a master plan that or or like the principes it the Leon Thomas the just like the twenty like listening to it without context and women like when he starts his yodeling thing that starts wearing me out like okay. What's he in? They may start primitive screaming and all like pretty much. The last ages of Coltrane the last ages of Pharaoh Sanders is albums. Truth be told Yoko Ono's early early early stuff. Do my first experience. My first exposure to Yoko as vocalist was The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus. Yes and you've seen it. Yeah I know exactly what I saw him. What exactly no but even even even with the plastic ono thing with with mother all that all the spy having all the scream at the end of mother is due to the fact that Yoko got John Into Therapy Cathartic for you listening just totally right? Isn't that deep. Yes and I wonder we're thinking about speaking about frozen is in and Coltrane like often. I think we speak about their intention of what they were sending out. But I want us to just remember that you know the personal work when we share it is very potent and very powerful just as medicine in and of itself because because very rarely do we actually get to witness people in healing process. I guess hidden it happens in a room somewhere with like your therapist. So happy marriage counseling. Or what are at Church if you happen to get the spirit of if you're lucky one you know but I think that right now like giving that permission to show like the total vulnerability and almost like borderline madness of what healing looks like Mecca Tharcisse. This is a gift that we can give to. I'm happy you brought up created as a master plan because I I still remember the first very first summer that was probably about maybe fifteen years ago and it really was like I felt changed after I heard it. Yeah I was like Holy Shit I. I've been a lifelong music. Music is transformed. I had never experienced what I felt when I first heard Creator has a masterplans like Whoa and those individuals to to bring it around. Connect the dots. They did. A deep spiritual work is well. Ah I think those are two artists for sure fair Sanders and John Coltrane who recognized their lives as the instrument as well. And we're doing that. Deep studying and taking that responsibility to polish their instrument of their when I finally understood what was going on with the left supreme like I was like. Oh Wow this is just understood was not fully understood when I finally realised that the you know the last part is is him playing the prey on the back. Cover the album or excuse me when he's playing the first part where he's playing the less pre motif in in every key he's saying God is in every everything so you know just picking up on things like that. It's like a big part layaway layaway. So maybe foreign to us because this is one of the unfortunate one of the kind of things that find problematic with how religion is in America especially in terms of expense especially in terms of the chargers on cool touring in California. So here's the thing when I was doing research on. This is a long story of me finding out how my ancestors came to the states so long story short is that once. They were emancipated. They were allowed to purchase a big body. Land Two hundred acres which they were allowed to go back to their religion and their way of living in their technique so they didn't have to practice Christianity anymore and once I did the research of what they did in in Africa town in Alabama I I was still going. Oh no wonder I'm kind of hippies hippies. They even in the failure play. They spoke of I can't pronounce the invoke tours. It's it's a religious practice where it's like a three day meditation it would be the equivalent of a High Wasco tea ceremony moaning or that sort of thing or mushrooms or whatever sort of like their religion that was imposed on us for purposes of slavery. Lavery is conflict into what we originally came from. And so that's kind of what I'm conflicted with now on at at least trying to get other black people than not just think that. I'm some Birkenstock GRANOLA Hippie. Sam Yeah they do tune into now. There's a larger tribes anything. I like like to think that whatever archetypal benevolent energies there are. They are very forgiving of the small small minded ways that human beings interpret when they have to say I like to imagine them in another realm dislike in harmony with each other. And we're the ones who are like clashing are like diminished edits in what they've offered with each other. You know I mean everywhere you go in the world that Christianity has been imposed you see ways that indigenous cultures absorb the best of and use it as nomenclature translate what they already knew what the hardy nudity truths because I mean essentially if you can't feel the ultimate truth in your heart was the war going to do for you you know and I i. I have seen this with friends who are practicing and other faiths but really open to Christianity. They find the metaphor they need access that benevolent archetype and let it serve them and support them. So you know like in other words like I don't need to to throw away Christianity or or like put put it down. I just can see that. Humans got their hands on it diminished the minutes other human beings but archetypal truth. Exactly what it is. I think there are benevolent entities. That are fucking hard to describe. What would you say is most people just say I'm spiritual? They work with not wanting to to get some truth years mayor. I just pull it but I mean that's that's similar to how we get into music right like essentially if you are devoted. You're GonNa find what you need like devotion is devotion emotionally. It doesn't matter if you're folksinger DAS- musician I know. Whatever like if you're willing to put in that level of devotion like you will unpackaged that the policy of your centrifuge and be able to bring through the magic that that you have to offer in his realm? 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And I have a question with regards to music being healing tool and so forth I wanted to temporarily bring it to the to the actual little Bass Guitar And is the is the Bass Guitar or bass anything that creates uh-huh low end is that is that more Suitable for healing because of the stronger vibrations interesting I don't know for me. I experienced as a very soothing part of my life also I think more more than the base as an instrument That was an instrument that I could improvise on. It was the first instrument that I actually felt free just spontaneously creating trading on and I recently comfortable earlier. I recently learned that when you are in the state of improvising. You actually soothing moving your brain so being an active. Improvisation actually changes the functionality. Of Your brain as you're doing it. It's also the only time that your the part of your brain that forms I narrative and the part of your brain. That listens are active at the same time. So personally I don't know if it's the instrument itself for the fact that I was free on it. I know that my whole life when I've been playing the instrument I've been soothing myself. I've been soothing my brain it is a blessing but also because it you'll feel the vibrations more your body basically. Yeah that'd be something interesting to look into the residence. What the resonance of the instrument is feels Healing League is hell? I mean it's one other question about that base soon for people that don't know out there The difference between An AN UPRIGHT UPRIGHT BASS or stand standard acoustic basin with an a double bass is different. It's just different names for the same thing. Yeah Yeah can I ask the question. My My dad wanted me to ask you this question. 'cause we were rolling around. Listen to your music the other day and he was like. Oh I I'm a fan you don't have to play it. He said but he's a drummer. My Dad's a drummer drummer. He was like I need to talk about how difficult it is to sing and stay in place data base in. How does somehow he? He did some Amir bills bills shit whereas like the ones the twos fours and how it's hard to get in south was like I'm going to ask the ruin assets. I disagree that it's hard hard I think because it's all hard. All of it is difficult. I mean we know this. You know this practice I did I. Why did I practiced a lot? I think anybody who practiced as much as I did. SINGIN plank would find it as accessible as playing piano left and right hand is just You're used to seeing this little think about it as much but like left and right hand panel independence is crazy ignore ignore. I'm playing so if I'm play dancing. Yeah not thinking about what I'm playing I'm thinking about what I'm singing intimates and I tried to hear it all guy trying to stress to be able to. That's in what it is like a certain point. The Connecticut memory comes in and plays. Yeah yeah so that you have access to that. I have to say though this this particular era I have not been practicing that much and it's really wild to be in like plamen and actually be trying to think of all this should at once. It's it doesn't feel it doesn't feel as as that's close right now. 'cause my dad is eighty and we were really trying to wrack our brains and think of other stand musicians that base and saying life and you played drums. Sure does it sound good good. Have you played on your albums. I have not okay. I got the question but it's not too late. The roots have been trying to complete their last album. And you like to make an album in like three days they feel like the tube you know. Yeah that album was was was showcasing. The process of creation as the project. So it was less about the final product and more about like the art form that we're exhibiting right here is creation itself with all the tight rope walking involved. I truly think personally in my daredevil character that I am like when the risk is real it activates whole other dimension of Ukraine. thity I propose agree with. I agree and not just a music. I think it's anything I feel like. I I do my best work when I'm under so much pressure. No pressure but just the stakes are real really real. You have to write the paper. Do you stay up all night. Threat to favorite for well. You didn't go to college because your podgy thing. The and then write the paper the night before because you needed the deadline. No no I mean like I think we're both referring to like the creative of environment where the stakes are high very real and there's nowhere else to go like. If you had two weeks through the paper you could theoretically start at two weeks out and you could feel that like okay. I'm leaning towards something. What I love is when you're in an environment you don't know what's about to happen and you're being asked to generate and real time a creative response to me that's the most exciting space of creation? Opposition I mean that's exactly what you. Yeah that's also like improvisation at the highest level because Y- improvisation Wanna one could be like. Oh I know. The context is going to be this like see minor blues. And here's all the Scales and the shape that I prepared. I'm interested in stuff that you don't like you don't know yet. What is going to look like? You don't know what's coming at you and you and you co create and real time and invest the wing. Should've Cortez did for the world. They like showed the highest possible level of the spontaneous creation. Literally making something from nothing because they'll we'll go out and have no idea they don't have a set they don't have a song but you learn that Shit so you can forget it isn't that that's the big line about that stuff. You learn skills and all that other crap actually get there you just vacated maybe that said a lot but I. I'm having a hard time thinking of anybody who who actually exhibits. What the possibilities at that level the way sort of quartet also I? Just I'm like such devotee of Wayne's I tried to talk about as much as I can so next level but I would like to propose a not a challenge of Michigan. Oh before you leave. Oh God okay okay. Are you familiar with. Are you familiar with dog. Ninety five have you heard that term All right so what is it dogma. Ninety five exciting dominated Danish filmmakers tire tired of the French flexing. Oh we're the best filmmakers with the most artistic so they yeah so they issued a challenge which had all these restrictions like okay. Well then you gotTa make a movie on this type of camera with natural lighting No soundtracks no data. No edits no end. It was like who makes the best product under all these restrictions there the winner and may call Dogma Ninety Ninety five I would love to see your loved the music version of that. I think there's I think I think Matthew Herbert. The trump musician works that way and also somebody else somebody else. Oh Mono neon. I don't know if he's still does but when he first started he used to like when you at the end of all of these videos he would have his little manifesto or whatever and it was a list of all the things his rules for making music. See the luxury of the privilege though although like I truly Q.. And beautiful and and I hear they were saying I really dig that. I really dig that I do. And I'm thinking of this documented that I saw about the landfill harmonic of these young people and their music teachers who were making taking instruments out of garbage. But because that's all they had access to and the drive to generate. Music was so strong that they were like. Oh we don't have. We don't have violins. But we you have all this stuff around us. Let's just make what we need and and again like that creative impulse of generating something out of nothing is incredible and for those of us who have have like infinite access to these resources. I sort of feel like it's our responsibility to expand in the spread. It if you have all that surplus like go musicians who are actually trying to make some shit and like offer for your access to them. Is that if you do something wrong. Get outta here. We're GONNA continue talking so we can come to turn turn thank you. Thank you so much. Wow that was that was the first we. We never been abandoned before like flat out. I gotta go walked out. We kinda came in a little bit pass time because of other obligations and we're in New York and it's raining cats and dogs out there. Steve was here to hold us down though. Thank you Steve. And Bill Charms also here Oh then started talking about a movie that he saw and then it got real awkward and then runs the Left uh-huh and then it and then it was discussing. How so riveting his conversations should we use this extra your time to address the the white the Red Empty Chair in the Room O.? Uh today was gonna be so good. He added Brokaw. But I'll do the best roll-call ever I actively it took me to make an executive decision it was like I roam roam around Fuxin potlucks free proud of that. It's it's probably best that I was not here for real because I why I planned on Rhyming Danza. With Esperanza who's the boss. Yes Tony. The bill is boss. Bill Haywood Esperanto. I'd I hit it on the fact that she was from Portland. She beat Justin Bieber and and drake. Yeah right she didn't wait. Drake wasn't it really thing but drake was up from best new artist but uh he wasn't he wasn't Jersey not nothing. This was two thousand eleven. This was like this was at. This is so far gone so I didn't consider drake to be a status. 'cause I WANNA drag on this show I don't want is he making it up. I don't I don't I don't know you. What do you think drake take? Whatever come here starting I only one drake here if Pontus here the gentleman out there? This is a prime example of be careful what you ask for a long time ago. I thought I'm going to put a reunion into existence so I went on twitter and I say Hey I'd really love it. My favorite group reunites back together simply because we need it and the thing is that what I hate. Most people that reunite or artists in general. You really can't name an artist. That is like emir stride. That has a good run in their early thirties. Suit early forties. Because usually I feel like that's where we may feel like they have to flex like there's no art as you can name that doesn't feel like like Someone younger is about to outdo me or I'm not saying it. Prince was an as talented with his musicianship and whatnot. But but I mean you you know and I know that he had MC hammer money on the mind during the one thousand nine hundred ninety two. You know what I'm saying and end who didn't have didn't we all right so I'm just saying that Nothing nothing dismays me. More than when artists squander wander their thirties and forties fighting similar to the way that I'm frustrated with run DMC and we've worked with them for for the songs that should documentary like I feel as though while they're in their prime with their voices and their energy and their memory. Now's how's the prime time for a run DMC to really in for Jim. J. Not being here and that sort of thing but it's like just the pettiness of what they're you know as Lisera beef. I didn't know real beef. I bill begrudgingly. Do like six shows together. But it's like they. They could be a stadium. act like you know what I'm saying like the back to this group. Did you broke up put back together. So that's it. That's long way ask the scenic route. I wanted to see little brother get back with each other. And for those that were following social media was a whole messy who was Wason and then Somehow Fontaine brought salons into it which you have to go back into the archives to yeah Eh. That was a good compensation. Please go back. There is really really sick so next thing you know it happens but but unfortunately we had to lose a family member lost. The beer told him to get back with pull so in case you are wondering I'm sure you know. Oh my God check out Tracks ten on You can find like you ever see player now. You'll say no more. Oh say the song title okay. I don't remember down so so as not here anymore. The noodle brother I'm you will hear lie. You also hear quest love gain you also hear previous culas guests Diana China Deanna Williams. Damn he made the best of his supreme experience. I mean I mean one day like that's right that's right I mean I mean I remember one day we did. We did a A taping for the show and I took the hard drive home in and I was going through the session at the end of it was Was the elude for a little brother blue brother album when the hell was that electric lady reservoir. Yeah wait a minute. I had no clue what I was doing. I was told to give Roy. Lee Assad out I gave Roy Leah Sat out and then you know and then I figures for the little brother reunion record. I wanted to be surprised. So there's a door stay open boss man like if we can of course we have empty chair. I mean for now. It's you know. Take the money and run anyone. Can we bring him back. Has a guest rather they definitely do. I'm sure that the little brother episode. I mean they've been on everybody else's however if we were to still have if if we were to ever to get yes. My father forgotten reading the gene keys. Now when Drake does do the episode Positive Fontaine has to do this episode. Yeah sure yeah. And also with Brian Alexander Morgan anybody in series Teddy Riley. 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Roleplay Retcon does Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull(s) Ep. 2: No Filla, All Villa

Roleplay Retcon

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Roleplay Retcon does Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull(s) Ep. 2: No Filla, All Villa

"Role playwright kind is not on any part of the movies. We ret con nor are we associated in any way with the artists who made them. Also, while we're not the rowdiest bunch. We are adults goofing off. So we may say some things that people wouldn't want their kids to hear previously on role play red con does Indiana Jones and the kingdom of the crystal skulls, Patrick goes landing in is Irish American. He is real rough and tumble Jacqueline. Z's catchphrase this week really sums up most of his character, and that catch phrase is I'm no about planes and snakes. I'm really on a Jones, I name myself after my dog you guys if it hasn't been a period of apparent are in World War Two. Y'all are currently in Paris, during the liberation of parish now that you see him in a good light, and he has never German wrapped around his throat. He is your little buddy shore around. He's all grown up money comes Joe. Edmonds, I'm a with the office of strategic services here for the Rb joined with a Steven Lucas, my second number here, and George Michale from the m I six from our brothers across the pond. The curious thing is he didn't steal anything except for one item. It was a check my notes. Here was uh, some sort of crystallized skull, supposedly, there are thirteen of them. But, you know that four are currently in the hands of the Germans, we have an expert Esperanza Rodriguez. Now Jones what we're having you do is meeting. Esperanza Misra Rigas in Spain where she's currently waiting for you. Or the rain stays mainly on the plains. Ben made a mistake. Ben made a terrible mistake. That is now a soiled this whole podcast. We cast it Indiana. Jones, Frong Lee as possible. As Clive Owen? Mona mona. I remember a time when you were a Clive Owen superfan. I think there was a time in everyone's life when they were Clive Owen superfan. And then. And then it went away, just just like Clive Owen. He was. Shoulder. My knee jerk reaction was to be like I can still give it up to Clive Owen. And like think he's terrible choice for Jones. But honestly, the more I think about it, man. What's he done for me lately? No. I'm for it. But we're not we're not changing it we're not changing that's been choice, his terrible terrible choice. But we do we do need to cast the rest of our people here. We forgot we got excited about the, the adventure, the blood pumping, so Jenky give us give us who is playing Esperanza Rodriguez. Esperanza Rodriguez is being played by Zoe Saldana, Donna. Yes. Very popular. F. O latina. Ticket ticket ticket ticket Mona who for Joplin's a have you have you thought into that? Mike, Mike Myers. Was not was not expecting that. I, I you know, I just realized now that I was going to have to do that. And I was searching through. And man, I landed on that, and it was. It's so right. It's so right this Mike Myers. I wanted to interject mine for, for Patrika Flanigan being paid by Patrick Duffy. Just just because. Because of the, the Patrick thing, that's the only thing I mean, Patrick Duffy, definitely has, like, like he must have like Irish ancestry, right? Probably was his name is Patrick Duffy. Is that Irish very, it's very high-risk? Who, who do we wanna play my name? My name is Patrick Duffy. It's. I'm TV's Patrick Duffy. I'm very Irish. You know. Awful. Who do we wanna play George Michale are British M I six okay, joint axel? Excellent. I guess we did set a precedent already. Never mind. I'm not going to say I wanna I wanna hear though I had like a real answer. I didn't have like a joke answer. Okay. Well, it's just so there's this in the actual in Jones of the crystals co movie that's in the beginning, and he's like old. British guy that was like, in the war with Indian, I actually liked that character, you know, this is the same character right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Does kale, then I kept him in. Get yet because he was like one of the good parts of the movie. I liked him. I don't know again I, I think maybe I like the actor. Very good actor. So I tell you what the been I'm gonna give you the sacred duty of casting shore around. Party just one of the like heaps original actor. But I guess he's not jump Jonathan Kwan. I'm going to be honest. I don't I can't think of any like what's it? No Jesse helped me who's good like K pop star that could play. Korean? So. Sure on himself as Chinese. Oh, he's Chinese. So then go Jackson, wink Jackson, wangle Chinese, and he's a k pop store we're going to do that. Who it is? But I trust jasmine on this matter, like particularly this matter. And I think we already said that Reggie's being portrayed as a python. So we've got that by by Andy circus. Yes. And he circus playing playing the pro. All right. Enough foolishness. Oh. Well, how are we gonna podcast then like, oh, you're damn you. Just wanna move onto the next been the nest. The next scene. Alright. So y'all make your way to the airport in Paris, and they give you a plane just well free free plane will. Yeah, I mean, this is a very important mission, and they want you to succeed in it. So they're going to give you a plane to fly down there, dabs. I'm calling on the driver's seat. Everybody. Don't, don't try to five before it. Jock linzie. Give me up piloting skill roll jock older. You I am. As it say, here, do I get to pick because I'm going to say like somewhere around like sixty five or seventy if I get to pick I know that the actual Jack Lindsay was much younger, but I won't I won't all moustachioed white-haired wispy jock linzie. That's definitely what I'm hearing. Okay. Yeah. Well, I mean he's definitely the same age as Indiana Jones. Maybe a little older. But by this time, Indies Innes forties. I would think yeah. Why feel like Indy would wear it. Like a younger person though. You know, like I don't know. He's Indiana Jones. I may just be a few years older, but I seem older. Plus, he's, you know, been been chugging off that grails. He's got a few years, banked. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Also, just real quick, my Binny's invitations. Are they back to normal or wounds? Everything is reset yellow back to full health. Anybody that took damage during that, that major major offensive. Okay. Now piloting roll the dice next to my piloting, but in there. That's it. All right. I'm going to do it over here this piloting roles. You look like you're fine. Yeah. I don't think I got hurt I rolled an eight man, I highlighted as pretty good. I think you actually did you got your old and eight so that is enough for success and a raise? Which means you do it so. Well, y'all get their little bit early. I'm going to apologize to my Spanish speaking listeners for I do not do well, with the Spanish language that don't quite have the vernacular. I was told that I never learned how to roll my RS, and this is a true fact gonna poets for English. Speaking listeners. We don't really roller ours. Too much. Thank you. Thank you despite the frog in my throat. I think I'm doing. All right. He sound great. Alex, thank you. But anyway, you arrive in the city of tro hill. I think we said it was like Trujillo right trail. All right. You're I've in the city of Toronto to fine with good, though. You did did I. Yes, it was really good. There's an are there. Mhm look at that and you roll it anyway. You, you arrive in the city throw hail to find Esperanza Rodriguez a waiting for you. She's younger than you, expect for an expert in ancient Mesoamerican culture in the cult, and this is the part where Jesse is going to hop over and take control of Esperanza Rodriguez Jesse, once you describe your character for everybody here. Okay. So Esperanza is in her mid twenties. Very young. She is afro Peruvian. And she's got very. Distinguished features beautiful, dark skin, black hair. She wears glasses definitely definitely. She usually dresses, pretty comfortable. She likes to get out in the rain forest and do lots of research on ancient civilizations inside and yet, she's really smart. She's good with a gun, and that's spent on Russia. Feel about snakes. She's cool was Knicks. She sees them all the time in the rainforest group in Peru. So she's fine with them, because, you know, a Jacqueline Z always says. Oh, that's right. Everybody. Time for Jacqueline's these official catchphrase of the week this week, it's not snakes. Why not snake beautiful? Their growth. Describe her properly. Picture. I was gonna say, fantastic job at came out, more fundamental job, which I think both are true. I'm going to mitt that I've been calling her as Morella on up until this point. And I was corrected just now and. So I'm definitely like having trouble not imagining her as Morella from The Hunchback of Notre dumb. So that's what's going on in my head. I mean but honest one hundred percent I thought as Meriva from netra bound was Esperanza. So I've been the same way. Yeah. All right. Welcome to the same boat. Were in Alex, I know. Right. Graham peasants, not Romanian so far guys. This is true. But y'all y'all meet at the airport. Brawl handshake for me. I did it was great. I'll be dexterity with professional yet, amicable. I'm going to need to see that role. Do you want to oh, really going to make me do this? If you put it out there, I'm gonna make it. I mean you could have just like let me know ma'am. Look. I'm looking for it until you said, dexterity this other. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. My bad. A five five passes, you, you take her hand almost delicately. Yes, but masculine -ly. Chuck to doctors, the six does jock shake the hand. A little better just one point better. Does he does? He gives it a little bit of a kiss on the back of the fingers. Hell yeah, not the palm, not the back of the hand. But the fingers will will Indiana Jones like kids jock dislike side. I and he six her hand again. All right. Another five. Excellent. Esperer would you mess with perfection on, how do you feel about all this hand touching and such? Hey guys, thanks for shaking. My hand multiple times and kissing it house ago. Forty. Right now being honest. My name's Indiana Jones myself after my dog. Nice to meet you. Dr Jones, what? Did use bronze at you've definitely heard of, of Dr Henry Jones junior before I ask for him specifically you did evacuate. I'm so happy to meet you, Doug Jones. I asked specifically I have read all of your dissertations, and I think that you are just the person who can help me uncover the secret of the crystal skulls. The one about the. Like the mud men. Yeah, I wouldn't was extremely was rating, but. Brought up some great points, some alternate points of view that their treatment of them is terrible. Agreed. Agreed. End accent. You're giving India, right? Here been monumental are men. They are they are, they are men just like me and jock and the other guy that's with us, Patrick. I think. Uh-huh. It's obviously, the mud women, which you seem to be carelessly leaving of work. Sure. Nice to meet you as well. John was nice to meet you too. Needs to be excellent handshake, you very much. I have a, a plus eight shaking hands. So it's a hard train skill mine, put a lot of practice into I tell I tell you who my favorite person shake hands. With is must snake snake friend, Reggie here. She's been my best friend on every flood I ever took, you know, funny thing about snakes to accommodate their narrow body, snakes paired, snakes paired, organs such as kidneys appear one in front of the other instead of side by side. You know that pretty crazy. I'm really glad that I put this character camping before we started. Alex, you're like only got four pages of notes. I hope it's enough and like, feel like we're gonna be okay. We're gonna be all right. And Patrick wasn't. Oh, yeah. Patch wait with guest could just talk to themselves. Also Indian, did you say you named yourself after your dog? My dog's name was Indiana and I liked that maim. And so I made myself after my dog, what's the third movie late? Could you name your dog though? Yeah, what's your name the dog? Well, it was sort of a. It was sort of got there may be some actual cannon as to why. Sure it was a family dog that was named before Indiana was born. Right. Yes. Nope. Nope. I wanna point out again that my parents did not naming after a dog I made myself after named yourself. Yeah. Did your parents give did did he have a name before that? If. Just call you boy before for you named yourself getting really confusing. I know that's crazy statement to say. Until after my dog third movie. It's all there. Just watched my third movie, one hundred percent believe you. Just doing my mind. The you're talking about my father named me COPA last crusade. Sean Connery's in it. There's a magic Cup. It's great men are all. I think it's a lot of people's favourite. Honestly, this is Alex retaking. It rains sorry. Sorry them. They yours do any of you have any questions for Esperanto before you get underway. Why did you why did you want me? Oh, aside from you thought I'm great. But, like, how do you think can actually contribute? So the reason that I picked you specifically because I know that you have done a lot of. Actual hands on experience in ancient Mizzou American in Incan ruins. And that's that's that's Pacific -ly where the crystal skulls come from, I believe. So your ear the prominent scholar in your field. So naturally, I picked you did. Did you not? Do you not still do this kind of thing? I'm so sorry. Are you retired? No, I don't think I'll ever retire. But. Perfect perfect why I think this is going to be the best job for both of us and also jock. And Patrick, of course, I know me best part of this are the seven seas and where the Kyoto snake to be having as many of Reggie why not snakes. Let's niks. I'm having a lot of fun role playing his character. I'm glad I'm really I'm really lead. I have another question. But I want someone else to ask one, they need to. Well, I guess it's just I guess it's just jock. Patrick is a person stetchered vector is a person, and Patrick is formulating his accent, as we speak. No. ABC's are second class citizens. Oh. They don't have souls. Wow. Wow. Unlike God with I made my. You have a why not snakes? Thanks. Have you have? Okay. I do have another question for you. Why why are we? Happy to meet you. I'm sorry. I just had to just had freak out a little bit there continue, please. It's fine. Why, why do you why are we? So concerned the Nazis have these things. Okay. So that's an excellent question. Indiana jones. I'm so glad that you asked first of all we believe that the crystal skulls have immense power. The Nazis will use this. Here's what s bronze knows about the crystal skulls. I'm just gonna air Jackson. Keep it from from you having to, to spit ball here. All right. Thank you. Eight skulls retreated by mezro American cult whose name has been lost to history. Do the other cultures in the region kind of like trying to destroy their legacy because they were some real bad dudes, the skulls theorized were used in a ritual for immortality knowledge of the gods. The cult believed the skulls held the key to unlocking the powers of time and space. Time and space immortality knowledge of the guides. That's why I've been Nazis want them. And that's gotta keep them out of the hands of the Nazis, any other questions mutters under his breath. Don't ever learn. Do they? No. I did read your, your passenger seating novel on the what was it the altar? Yeah. As a novel, though, of course, it was, it was fiction. Right. But he just had so much truth in it. It was it was amazing. But that is exactly why we have to keep the real power out of the hands of the Nazis. Also, if I may be so bold. You look so handsome in person than on the cover of your book. Okay. Anyway, continue sorry. On that is that that portrait. And let me tell he's better. Fly in drawing is I'll say. I'm better in flying than everything. Sorry to make a character toys for you. There. Pollen row play rat cod. The great experiment. I'm also a terrible swimmer. However. All right. Aspirins a explains that she's gone permission to search the villa of Pablo his RO, one of the conquistadors who accompanied Francisco day or Yana in his map, making mission of the Amazon river, according to her sources bizarre returned to Spain with a mysterious treasure. That might be connected to the skulls. Yes, base time powers offer me, but some treasures might be nice just just be careful what you put your bag Jack. Okay. During this character. Right. I feel like he's kind of a jerk to everyone in all the member watched him now. Yes. That's pretty good. Actually, I'd say that, right? He, he is a lovable jerk. Yeah. I don't know if somebody was like treasure, I feel like Indiana Jones would be like, don't treasure belongs museum. And also it could be cursed. It's cursed a lot of the time it doesn't belong does, and it doesn't belong among the Nazis belongs the people here. Wouldn't say Indiana far Mr. putting him. He's a yeah. He put it. He'd put an American Museum where American people can look at stuff. America, america. Okay. So. Yeah. Telephone. It's GM. All right. So you guys make your way outside of town to the small village right outside where it is said, the villa of. Pizarro is located. As you make your way through the streets. You see the villagers have staring. God is, but they keep to themselves mostly. These guys have some pretty gone is, but they keep to themselves mostly. Terrifying. What are they afraid of? Everybody give me a notice check. Indian esperon. You guys are just beeline for, for the villa. You have no notions of what's going on around you jock on the other hand, Jackson says going off either going crazy. Reggie. Reggie seems upset. What's, what's upper edgy? As you get near the villa fewer and fewer people are around. In fact, the buildings around the villa for about a thousand feet are deserted. Many of the buildings are falling apart from decades of neglect. You're the ruins of the villa, you can tell once that it was once a prominent, and beautiful piece of the region's history. But now it's just a few lonely, walls and piles of bricks. There's a subtle smell of decay in the air, everyone give me another notice role. Hey, why we're doing that? I have a question for you. Answer my question, what do I have some like resources that I'm allowed to have in pursuit of this mission? You have pretty much everything that's you New York Queant, but I mean like. When people like if I get into some to Goshi Asians here in a second. Would I be able to be like, hey, allies can like get you some food or something? I mean, we're, we're not gonna worry about food this. Food notices in a row to notice to roll to Rosa to this best bad. Wow. What's, what's the what's the red square around? John sees around really failed. Oh, that, that means that she rolled a one. It looks like on both of her roles crit fail. I have a bonus a notice. So it wouldn't have been a, a solid one. I think you actually say something like, oh, looks like the whole town's deserted. It's a shame to its place. Looks like a used to be nice. But it's awful beat up now. But jock. And as Morella Esperanza God damn it, Ben. You notice that the area around the area that you've just walked into is completely silent. Like the inner village. There are no animals here, not even birds or insects. Esperanza is going to stop in her tracks and look around more closely. She sent his something's wrong here, and she's going to kind of hold her hands up so that the guys will also stop. Do you stop? Yeah. I'll snap. What is it? I'm not sure something feels, there's no people or animals. It's completely silent here in. We're in the town centre. Right. Doesn't that seem weird to you guys not so much as a bird? Can I? Is there like a closer notice investigation or something that I can do to see if I notice anything happening? You can investigate the surroundings with the investigations kill do. Sevens pretty good. But what she notices that there's just a lack of things around that it's completely dead silent. It doesn't even see you don't even see tracks for animals on the ground. Like like nothing has been here to disturb this area in years. I'm going to relieve that information to my mates, and perhaps we should. Continue with caution. You can seem the main houses walls are mostly intact, but the roof is completely gone. So this is your basic. Spanish, villa. It's a very large manor house. The forest has been cleared away a little bit from around it. It has fourteen rooms. That yell can explore. Yeah. That's the this is the is the main entrance like the foyer, I guess you see on top of the stone stairway, a set of wooden doors that are starting to rot away. Their busted open. Yeah. Can I sort of just like peek into these doors here, just sorta, you can? Well, the roof is long rotted away. So there's a lot of sunlight in here. What you're looking into is a large for you. With a large hole. The wall is broken away to your right. And there are a few more doors along the way which way do you guys think we should go? Well, four something that is perhaps very valuable and even possibly supernatural. I'm sure that it's probably not right here in the entrance. So maybe we should delve much deeper into this place. Whole you don't wanna jump down. All right perfect. Let's jump down the hole. Let's look in the whole we're going to do this by turns. Okay. As you step into the foyer here, the floor creeks violently. You notice that the war is quietly leaks. The floor is completely made of wood and. Along exposure to rain and opposite sunlight is probably gonna do some very bad things, non treated wood over the span of hundreds of years. So you might wanna be careful. Yes, I would like to carefully go over to the whole, I guess. You creep over to the whole. You are just fine to that point. But the whole is impassable it reaches down into a seller that is far far below you. And there's it doesn't seem like there's enough of alleged to jump over to the, the other door across the way. Do I have a link going? Like I got torts flares got a rope. Just wanted to throw a flare down in there. Get some line in what we start jumping out of the whole. I'm keeping that. I'm not gonna let you throw that all thank. Thank you. I'm gonna lie to flare in down in their drop. It down in there. And you watch it go, go. And then it goes out. Like I don't see the bottom, like maybe you heard a splash. After a good twenty foot drop. He's sort of mutters, like it's not a basement. You are not a basement. I feel like that's my turn. Yeah. Let somebody else go jock. How about you, you, you take again or in their if you'd like? A male goose. Gufang. I'm gonna I'm gonna come in here and I'm gonna go the opposite way of Indy. What you see, head of you is a crumbled wall. You can see into another large room with some wooden tables. There's also a door over to your right to doors retire. Right. Actually. I'm going to open the door. Right. Most from me to this number three room EBay. It's like a quarter circle room. You opened that door. Do you step in? Are you going to stay out the door here? I'm just I'm just looking through looking through the doorway. You don't see anything in that room. It looks like it's just an empty storage room. What do you think can open this one more door with my turn? What opened this other door to? Door into the room just south of that, and you see a few makeshift beds. They're almost rotting away. Got some old ratty beds in here. I yell back down the hallway. And then that's probably crystals. Yeah, there's about four five propped up like the lane in the beds adventures over. Let's go home. They like turn to a flying saucer. Flyway. Does not happen. No. S Brown's what would you like to do? Okay. I guess we're splitting up. I'm going to go the opposite direction of jock. So I see the whole in front of me. I'm gonna make a left and go down this little hall. You see a door to your left and one directly in front of you. I heard kitty new debt here that cat. I'm going to open the door to my let Pekan peak in to another small room. That is completely empty. Empty rooms can I pick in the room? You peak into that room and is full of barrels and crates. Okay perfect. I know what I'm gonna do by external barrels. The role. I love a good barrel. What would you like to do? Oh, yeah, I get to. I'm going to go into this barrel room, but I won't steal Veron's us thunder. I like to open the door to this other the other door inside of the barrel room to go to the left here into this into the Lennox room. Okay. You open the door and you see what looks like? Servant's quarters. No. I don't wanna, like, investigate the like I don't, I don't want to investigate beds. I'm gonna wait till you find something interesting. I'll give you this one for free. Look at that other door over to your right down the little hallway and it seems like it is covered in stone, and wooden beams blocking that door off, essentially the falling apart. Bob Vila up here via joke. Everybody. Respect back to me. So. See there's a bit a rebel, and I'm seeing the wall into this other door. Right. The does that rebel look like it's I mean, how high is just like kind of Walker stumble over it, or is it like kind of you can get over this rebel? This is not very high rebel. It's a there's a hole in between these two rebel stacks, where a lot of the rebels falling away into the basement catacomb situation. Okay. Okay, I'm gonna try to climb up over this rubble here into room seven. Voting the whole what you see in here are too long. Rotting tables. There's a brazier in the corner. It looks like this was once dining room but not much else of use here. Go out. I'll make my way over to the edge here and open this door the door on the Senate room opened the door. Esperanza. Let's go back to you. Okay. So I'm going to go into the room with all of the barrels such going to investigate. An investigation. Investigation. Ten. Oh man. That's a good one. So what you investigate from these barrels and crates is nothing. Oh perfect. That thing I roll the ten bucks. You get a whiff of something that has long, long rotted. And yeah, it's real bad. So when I investigated the whole room, I also investigated the door and beam situation. And with such a good role I could tell whether or not the beings were holding up inning kind of structure or if they were like recent run. From good role. I will not make you roll spirit to see if you vomit from that very bad thing that was in the barrels. Oh. You're welcome. Investigate the over there. Investigate the beams. You can you can try that. All these other schmucks open like two doors at a time. Is some nice leisurely five that time? Would that five you tell that these barrels or these, these beams, rather, well, not structurally, important would be very, very hard to move. Can I tell if they are more recent than this was definitely unnatural collapse? Okay. Got it. All right. Andy. Yeah, I guess go hang out with jock. Okay. Junk. Move your way down there. How's it going? Andy. You still got that snake? Of course, I do ever wear go say Hello. Reggie. I'm not doing great you what a hug, Reggie loves hugs. All the way to my grave that counts actually. Yeah. She's a on its Joe. I love that job. Because my favorite one. What would you like to do in this room, there, Indiana Joe, right? I'm gonna move on from this room. What's going on? With ten number ten down here in the southern of that's just leaving. Yeah. That's just a side door. Okay. That if you'd like. I see a little a little wiggly thing over here on the map is that a snake? It is not I don't know why not stay. We're just we're just gonna ignore the wiggles there. So you've opened the door and you've moved up there. Did Indiana here at terrible moan. Give me an Giladi roll growth. That's not good. They're indie. But was it three three better than the floor gives way under but threes, charm now three times? Now, you do have a chance to spend a bendy here to save yourself. If you'd like. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see the first Benny of the game. Do it. All right. So with your. Alon you to add plus two to any rules. You make with when you spend bendy, so make this jelly. Plus two. I got ten as the floor gives away, under you leap across to the other side. And do not fall. Down into the cellar. And then he says, I'm going to old for the ship. Ron movie. Jock. You hear a very loud, crash going to the on that hallway where Indy just vanished, dammit. India we were doing pretty good. What'd you do in there? I'm exploring. How I do it, Dan. That was a very good Indiana. John sign that is exactly something. He would say. Hey kids, Alex here. Sorry to interrupt your thrilling thrilling adventure. That year listening to this had a few ads and thank you. I wanted to get through and, and let shell know about the first two ads and the only ones we had this week come from my wife Janette. I if you like the logo that we have going on at role play red con-, that's due to Ginette and ink Spitzer designs, she does design, work, and all kinds of media and also an avid player and three D print enthusiast. Check her out on Instagram at Inc dot Spitzer, or Facebook at Inc. Spit or art. She also runs a nonprofit called spore Huntsville, which teaches three D printing, as a free service to various libraries and other low locations. You can visit them at spor Huntsville or spore h s v dot org. Now, I'm gonna move right along to some thank yous in no particular order. We'd like to thank gauge lip bolt. Gauge Lippold FU who makes the web comic key to the futures. Fate for tweeting about the show, gauges always encouraging, and send us ideas and fact, it was gauge who pointed out to us that we forgot to cast everyone else in the Indiana Jones adventure, except for Indiana Jones. 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Elephants, if we're being on his tear, though, the Ken, right? I thought right? Nassir is for the only things in the world. The only mammals with legs couldn't jump. I don't know where you're getting your information, but. Better. Check your sources. It's such a good snake fact for this moment, though, I can't find it. I cherish these, these snake facts, basically, they have modes, they have like modes of movement that they have that allows them to get over different terrain. Did they turn into sprayings in sprawling out? I don't know if that's a real thing, but I know they turn into springs role. Oh, I mean, some of them do jockey, you, you can get over this whole pretty easily is just the surprise that kind of took took in end to it. Is there anywhere else you'd like to go? Oh, let me pretty long Longhorn, or down here with a lot of rebel. Yeah. I will. Although. To here and then I'll open the store. There's a there's a door door the corridor, and I'm gonna open that door to your left and it's just a big empty room with table. Let's pass back to us. But. Do. I also hear all this. Commotion going on did hear faint kind of crash on a lot of yelling, but you're pretty far away. All right. I'm gonna kinda start making my way that away, you make your way over that way. So I'm going to get here. And this. Kind of hole in the ground where there were there was some structural damage that they just kind of went past. And I'm gonna peaked out in the whole does it look like all of the rebel that has fallen into the whole has made any kind of stepping pass something. You can't see down there. It's completely pitch black. Okay. Can I keep going then? You can even get all the way up there to them if you'd like. Again all the way out there to them because I like, hey guys what happened over here. Messed up the floor. Pretty sweet jump that. I don't I have missed out on. Oh, I missed out on the cool jump of Indiana. Jones. It's fine. There will be more coal jumps. Keep it together. Okay. Let's keep looking. Right. So jockey licks in that room there to your left. What's going on in there? Not much going on in there. It's pretty empty okay? Well, I'll go into this room on our right? Then. Say you open that door and you can peek in and see a few more beds table. Looks like another 'nother servants quarter when hop over back to Indiana Jones. Just gonna keep a keep on truckin forward through this. There another barrel room ahead of me here. Yeah. All right. Go north UC, a whole bunch of barrels, and we'll say very large hole in the wall going outside. Yeah, I'm not going to open these barrels. I am not going to open these barrel now. Right. I mean, unless any of them, just say like skulls, five on them like, well, it seems like all of the language that would be on there is in which you can read, but it is. Kind of worn away. Okay. Nope. Not gonna open them. Still gonna open. All right. Jock. What would you like to do? I'm going to go to this door to go in into this room, that s s ferenza opened. Charge into that room. And you hear a lar- very loud crack give me an Jila T Rowe boy. Here we go. I was jokester. A five you just barely like you're going. It's hard clip that you go right over this thing before it just collapses. Made it still counts. In my like right next to one of those beds. Yeah, you're almost in one of the beds, Jack does like a Jack has like a physical comedy thing where he liked Lance next to one of the beds is, like good, grief in climbs into one, pretends like he's going to sleep. Aren't as Rhonda. You watch us jock us right through that doorway and makes a giant hole in the ground as he flies into bed. She is going to slow clap. She's so impressed. And the skilful way that he accomplished that and so can't you hop over this whole that he has created this is a pretty big hole. Marbey. You can try to jump over, but I'm gonna have to get a role from you. God. If I fall, am I going to die? It's possible it seems like it might be a long drop, and who knows what's down there. Do you ought to borrow by rope? Yeah. If you want to toss it over here. That'd be nice. Maybe hold onto win end. All right. Well, I guess I should probably somebody turn. Maybe. No, no, no. You can tell. I hold onto one end of the rope and throw the other end across the camp. All right. So to make this Gylfi rural s Peraza you're gonna make it with plus two. You got over there. Thanks. But I'm not in here with with old jock Lenzi. Reggie, ed. Reggie, you are in there with reading. In fact, the rope that he hurled you was not a rope. In fact, it was Reggie. They, we is Reggie, I'm okay with that. If Reggie was okay with it. Reggie were you okay with it Reggie nods? He I Ready's cool with it. Reggie was was he, he feels like you do this a lot. Just in general thing. We've it's like a trick. It's like a magic trick. Boeing. My Reggie is a girl. I think the Reggie in the mood. Boy, I well, I've been, I was just thinking, how, like Red Sea would be like a really great name for like an eighty s popstar lady. So it kind of go either way. Yeah. I just think of Reggie from rocket power. Anyway. Okay. Thanks jog. And Reggie, I appreciate it. I see in this room beds, and a little table. And to my left is a squiggle that we're Norring into my right? Is a door? Let's the door open the door. You open the door and you see two more beds. But they're quite lavish beds, perhaps this was the master bedroom at one time. And Anna Jones. Let's go back to you. Okay. Can I hate so Esperon? What was in a room, eight there, though, at the table, I guess, like a million miles away that true. And s bronze it didn't look into that room. It was jock window, John, Chuck. What was what was the deal with I room? What? Fine. Motive what was the deal with that room, the room? We're in now that a game Benjamin fair enough. That was real bad. Okay. All right. Can I get over the rubble to give from where I am to roommate or is that a wall rubble? No. You, you, can you can just if you climb up on there, you could probably see into it. I wanna know if anyone went to a really I'm trying to remember, if anyone went to room nine I don't want to room nine okay? Yeah. Except wasted a lot of time trying to toys time we're saying we'll waste your time. You're good. Waste time you want this other people's time are wasting. Yeah. I'd like to try to get to room nine here, the above this room with the big table. I guess. Can get over there? Squiggle squiggle on your map make me made me nervous. I they were there when I got the map, it's not my fault. Well, you always make stuff happened at them though. Why not stakes? Flipping a coin every time I walk over one of them, you enter this round room or no? Finally, a half cylinder. And it looks to be kind of a study. There is a desk in desk in front of you. So searching. Can't search a ruined this? I mean you can if you want to get over there and investigated, I do very nervous, though, I go go investigate this. Go investigate this desk. I'm doing that thing. Do that. I guess I'm going to open the drawers look on top. See anything on top of the best strolling investigate. I okay. That's what I was waiting. I'm good at it. I mean you already to Indiana Jones all three though. All of it so much, why? All right. You see a desk. It's quite ruined. You don't see anything in the drawers up top. Just looks like a desk to you, man. I just really thought something would be here. Hey, maybe one of you guys come in like just, you know, give it a second. Look, just like you know not a person. Say something and do not that big of a house. I feel like if I shouted that could hear me you have to talk in the same room and you know it. Propel or sort round where are you? Around or outside watching the door. Cool. Okay. That's fair. That's very good. You. They felt like they were gonna get forgotten if they didn't stay by the door. You guys come out. All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna come wreck the floor in this in this room with the lavish beds. All right. You hear allowed creek, of course idea, but nothing happens. Thank goodness. I sure do wish I did my crawl into bed after jumping over a chasm bit in this room. These seem a lot nicer. Those other one's pretty gross. It's actually not bad. These places are user filled with, why are you, are you talking? S Ron's jock. If you wanna both kind of investigate this room, I will allow you to our all. But it's I have a four. So if we are investigating together, do we get more investigation. No. Because you are not that acquainted yet. Oh, okay. I thought I rolled that. Okay. Well, I rolled at thirteen so. Covered the spread. You are just a Namur with this disintegrating wall hanging. It's like it's a picture of a bay with a vote on it, and they're birds flying over this boat. And they're just something about speaks to you personally is painting this kind of a joke there about, like a bay and like slips like bays slip on or something, it's gotta be something there, right Esperon. On the other hand, you figure big empty room, only two pieces of furniture. Let's go stupid around that furniture. And you find behind one of the beds. Kind of strange hair of dials on the wall. But you get at them. Doc helped me move. This. Thank you. Have you seen this praying? It's beautiful, but I found dials over here. So, maybe if you helped me move, this thing we could get it the dials and then you could go back to like the painting, you know if you wanted. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm just gonna bring it with me and healthy that. Oh, excellent. Why wouldn't we just steal? The painting off the wall drags it one handed across the room and give me. Give me strength. Check their and jock. Gladly give you a strength check. What's that sound is jock stealing? A painting. Austrian story. Oh, strengths. Check. You're, you're the GM Portsea. I bet I. That have extreme. My. Yeah. Put over your head like link. The ten that's very good. I don't know if I spell zella games like link decides that he can't let something unless it he can lift over his head like, that's right. You can't do it by hams. Sorry, what were you saying? I have the painting with me now I think I'll feel much better. Oh, good. If we could just maybe move this big bed. All right. I helped move the bad do I need another strength. Yeah. Let's, let's get you both role in a string. Ken again. Some good all muscle. This thing just away from the wall. Using my role having although I did roll what I I mean I rolled radical. I vessel lowest number where we've seen this round. As you lock eyes with these couple of dials cycling starts as you lock eyes. With these couple of dials dials there is no, no, no. You're locking is with them. You're looking at our eyes are locked on them. But they know is in there. Okay. I mean like is okay. Something starts to buzz in your head. Kind of like the aftermath of being too close to an explosion. I use a ringing trying to what a low kind of like. And I noticed this you do. And in fact, the closer, you get to the area the ladder gets. Doc, are you getting this to you? Both are. Yeah. Feeling a little weird. Neared going on here with all of my extensive knowledge of. Things such as this have I experienced wherever heard or read anything like this happening. Definitely not read anything like this. I have no idea what it is. Clueless. Let's grab these knobs though and give them a turn. Why not? The dials, it seems like they're two sets one is smaller and end late into the larger and they have eight symbols on them. Symbols, look like assembles in the larger dial resemble skull, a castle, or possibly a city, a ship a river a bird, a tree, a man and a sword. Hang on. Those are all things in my tapestry. Are they? We're actually in the. The outside. What, what was happening on the inside on the smaller dial inside set with, with Jim's of some kind or possibly even even precious metals. One is gold. Another diamond one is blue. What is black one is green? One is red one is purple. And one is white. Those were all colors tapestry. All right. Cliff enroll that tapestry. If we can figure this out. Tafs three unroll the tapestry onto the floor. Looks like tapestry. Yeah. So I looked, I looked to see if, if indeed has all of the things that were pictured on the dials and it does it has a ship is the prominent thing in the middle. Seems like it seems like the ship is Brown Keller actually not at all. The river. Is a bit of blue and green. It's got some moss on it. There's a, a flag on the ship has a skull in it. White. The man is holding a sword that a silver. He's pointing toward the shore that what looks like a city that has gold. And there's a few trees around that are green. The birds flying overhead are red. That's everything that was on. This seems pretty pretty cut and dry. Let's, let's put the pictures with the colors and see what happens. Yeah. Let's do that thing before we do that. Let's go back to Indiana Jones. Many m Jones, what would you like to do? I think I. Why think I'm gonna leave? I'm gonna leave this room. I'm gonna go to the eastern part of the, the manner here. I thought about this joining them, but. Did some weird several twenty second? I think I instead, a I'd like to move to a room fourteen this eastern on the Manson here, as you do bump the desk. Okay. And you hear a thud. What's this? I wanna like I wanna like feel around where I like her the like where what part of the deaths that I hear the back around the desk to where you were you see a panel has fallen off an inside is a chest. The harry. It is not a hairy chest. I guess I'm gonna I'm gonna very carefully like I, I seen of raiders carefully, open. This chest. Open the chest. Yeah. All right. Take the test, like lift the chest out of its cubby, or whatever here it seems like it is, is, is locked into place. Yeah. I'm just gonna see if the lid opens. Okay. So you start to open the lid and you hear twang. Oh, god. Roll me and agility, minus one. Minus one. But very I'm quite I don't know if you know this Alex year not. It's gonna be great. It's going to be so good. I really hope it is. It's a four four. As you hear this twang you instinctively jerk your hand back as large bear trap device snap. Shut. In front of the in front of the chest with large large spy e at it. Hey someone. Hey, one of you come open. This chest now reason. Well, you do that. The, the trap is sprung and you could possibly just open the chest proper now. Oh, god. I would like to work my nerve and trying to do that. Okay. You very cautiously creep toward the chest. Your fingers alight. So soft on the lid. Fairy slowly start to lift the lid. There's a loud, creak God, and then nothing happens inside that chest is a wrapped piece of cloth that reveals a map is threat piece of cloth map, or is there a map in wrapping cloth? There's a map that's wrapped in the cloth. Okay. Me a history, check. Can I give you a magic and mystery check? Have a mast magic and mystery check. But you can give me history game where you run in here by the book's one it. I'm actually trying to find history, whereas history, its second row bottom under additional skills. Have you checked your we'll flow on that one? Ill still good air. It is. Okay. Still good at it. You should be pretty good at, at your Indiana. Jones, did you tell me to give modifiers? Or is it just? Okay. It's a three. All right. I view plus two to that Wroclaw. Right. Con. You notice the map is a very crude very old map of the Amazon river. Okay. I feel like what's really happening here is you really need this to go this way for the second time and like it's not happening. It might be more that I feel bad that nothing's going right for you. So I'm giving kind of. Kind of funny. I just like the Indiana Jones is having a very off day in this manner. Was this long river, that's specific shape? It's so long. I don't understand what it is rather tip my tongue like it might be the longest river in the world. I don't know. It's an amazing river though. It's really good to the other two. I just guys really tickled myself. Ben good job. You're so good at jokes, lose jobs. Well, that's why for the best because you'll just laugh and laugh and never any the. Move the dial you want to move the dials. Yeah. Do you think that's a good idea? Oh, yeah. Jocks way, jock was ready to just spend the dials randomly now that we haven't they Esperanza give me a. Give history rule plus to all your history roles. Ten man, you got a raise on that, and everything? So what you know about these particular kind of puzzles it's drop away. Puzzle if you input the wrong symbols, too many times. This will drop whatever is held inside the inside the case. Now now. Okay. So maybe we should be a little bit care of maybe should be a little careful with it. So you've got at least two tries maybe third. All right. So. Look into see if I have any can I roll a smarts? Check. Sure to see if I think that I got the right combination before I start spinning stuff. I will give you a warm or cold. Okay. Smarts from role. Smit. Good. So, so gimme gimme you're giving your thoughts on on this. All right. So there's a lot going on. Veasley. In the dials of why coal diamond blue black green red and. That I can't read my handwriting. Doled diamond blue black green red purple and white Pearl Keller. All right. So I've got a silver sword gold city. So I feel like gold sitting that's pretty good. Okay. Things on there. So. Go and ship. Anything purple in the tab history. You do not. The man's not like wearing purple cardigan. The man seems to be colored in black. He's mostly in shadow. And black. I've got red birds. Man, black trees, green blue green river. Probably blew since we already have green trees. Yeah. Now, so. Soared silver's. So maybe diamonds are pretty silver. I guess. You might make that, that jump with three. Okay. There is no Brown. Is the tapestry has it been like sun, bleached a little bit? No. I it seems like it was a pretty shady spot. And it's in this part of the tower, you do know that half of it is missing the bottom half of it. The bottom half as missing. I see. Let's say it was been torn away. So I don't know what the purple thing is while you've got. So you've narrowed it down, though, so that you only have one option on both dials, right? Yes. And it's Brown and chip, I mean purple chip. Any will ura while they're looking this, you can go elsewhere if you'd like? Okay. I, I would join them, but I have not been paying attention to the puzzle. I really don't know what they're doing. Anyways character would know anything about what's going on. What I might run be like I found a map like I might do that. You could do that. But I'm not going to is what I'm saying. I would like to my original plan of going and looking at this east hall, fourteen importing you open it up. And there is a table, a smaller table and bed and nothing else. Really? Sprint sucks. It does kinda right? It's all busted. May not sorry. Alex, your like map of your Manson, your creation of sack like that is a feeling envy has a little secret. Yeah, I got this map off the internet and bent it to my purposes. Good map. It's working so far, the immersion is real here. Yeah. But also all the hell what the heck they didn't even keep care of this. Dang play did not I didn't care for it at all. I just go in like Colin me like Jok Esperon zone. Where are you now that now that he is beyond this giant kind of facade, you kind of start to hear him vaguely, but it is a little hard for you to hear what the buzzing that's in your head. Where where in here? In the you do hear that. Oh. Oh. That's like what are you in here? Go ahead and join them, you can join them. In fact, okay, go help Indy as as you get closer. You started to hear that buzz inside of your head. What is? Oh, hey Andy, we're solving the puzzle. Nice of you to join us. Anything? Oh, the buzzing. Yeah. I don't really know what that's about secret. Like bees about snakes. I think their brain, these so Hori about better. That's way. So what do you got you got what looks like symbols colors and jock stole? Tapestry. That's how these things usually go. Do you need a recap of any of these these puzzle me the short version? Okay. Silver sword. Gold city skull, why. Red blacks feeling. You're trying to match symbols and colors that we have a tapestry that has stuff on it. And then we have to dials and all the stuff on one of the dials is in the picture. It's like a boat and birds and stuff. So which ones? Do you think you've not matched up yet? There's just the one it's ship on one dial in purple on the other, but the ship isn't purple in the painting, but it is in the painting. But it's not purple. Oh, it's in the painting. But it is not purple. Is there anything purple in the painting? There's no nothing purple in that painting part of the painting is missing or part of the ship is just cut off by the framing of the painting like part is full on in the painting. It's entirety of the. The bottom part of the missing. It doesn't seem to be anything that's been cut off, like a partisan. Give me an investigation. Hey, I give you that you can all do everybody investigate. I'm going to do it even though it's terrible. But I feel like Jok would be like into Cawley crap. He rolled you mmediately lock on this thing. Like there is. How did I? Not right. How do they do that? What what you did was you roll the four. And then you roll another four that you've got a one. Oh my God. And then on your wild die. Euro, the six and what acing so you get to roll again and get a five. So that's Levin minus the two from you not being skilled in this. So you go. Gracious. Yeah. So you did you did real good. But jock you can zero in that there was writing on the bottom of this, this particular might have had a legend, or a scroll on it. Oh, let's looks like there's some important information on the map was not really map on the tapestry. Here's been cut off. Looks like there was some words, maybe legend or something. With my extensive knowledge of languages, can I see any? Symbols that look like words that I would know that are like. Have been shredded off with whatever remains of the wherever the remains of this tapestry are. All he sees the scroll work that might pertain to have have words or letters on. All right. So do we think that the person like hit it somewhere? Should we search your round or should we just try and figure this out on our own? What do you guys think or been most places, did you find anything interesting in the other rooms Indy? He pulls out the map and he's like, I've got this does matchup with the bottom of your tapestry. It does not does the cloth. The map came in matchup with about of the street. Maybe it does give it invest. Okay. Oh my God. Indie. You'd better do it this time. What to write? It's. Oh. I'm just kidding. I don't really does. Oh. That'd be real funny. It was super funny. It's like you're like MGM. I gotta get my fun work. I have a new once or twice. Yeah. Yeah. So you lay this out. And take back, one Kaddam. You take back one to in fact, give you get Benny for that. In fact, you all you all got Vinnie for that whole interaction. I like that. I forgot that we have been. That's right. Okay. So you lay out the, the, the cloth there on the ground. And it says, in Spanish sporran Spain. And that's, that's L language that was there. It says the road to Eldorado. Sweet. There are gold on there. There is. I mean on the dials. Yeah. There is. Is a road on on the painting. There is not. Not really had something there. The road to El Dorado is a river. Maybe maybe. Well, El Dorados the city of like milk. And Honey, right. Or is it? City of gold. So does anything on here that says ship purple? There's nothing on the ship purple in here. Have you guys used the gold? But you guys have used the gold the gold for something on the dials used it for city, didn't you? Yeah. Well, that's definitely definitely definitely was the right one. So given look at the, the whole dial set up, you see a kind of. I don't want to call it an indicator, but, like a triangle at the top of it. So maybe you need to switch. Your particular symbols to match up that triangle. Well, why don't you try putting in gold city for by that? I'm sorry. Do do mind symbols have, like like the flag as triangle. I gotta put the flag over the triangle above the dials pointing down, that is where you move the symbol to, to be under it. Joe yet just put in which one is that which ones have the triangle on the dial? The triangles on the wall pointing at the dial indicates which one the, the lock is looking at current. Yeah. Imagine a combination lock little triangle that indicates the number city go it, you put the city of gold. Yes. You hear click? Good. That back. I don't trust clicks mouth. Just under the dials at the floor. A little square floor starts to roll back. Revealing a little a little dention in the four inside is kind of figure covered in rough cloth. Buzzing in your head grows louder. I would like to reach down and like I'm all sweaty, right? Oh, you're very sweaty. And I feel like the buzzing is like real bad is actually increasing the closer, you get to this thing. And I'm like my hand is like really carefully going to. But when I actually get there like ginkgo. As the cloth slips away from the figure, the buzzing and all of your heads ceases. And under that cloth is pure lump of crystal courts shaped into a skull.

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Parenthood

Out of the Blocks

30:59 min | 1 year ago

Parenthood

"I'm went to South Western high. which I lasted literally a day one day I made it to ninth grade one day and couldn't do it so I dropped? That's why I'm hoping everything goes go but the store because I don't have an education vacation. I'm very smart as far as doing things I know pretty much. I can do anything but don't have any want to hear that they don't WanNa hire somebody who has new high school diploma or G._D.. Not even a McDonald's. The biggest concern is losing my job because this is my only income and the owner of the store. Just doesn't seem to want to do anything with the place if this goes. I don't know what I'm going to do because it's so hard to find a job and the job that I have able to bring my daughter to work every single day she com. She'll help me one of register you know when he does get stock show helped me but it's very seldom that he even gets anything and it's sad my daughter's ars name as Deke raw. She's nine years old. She's in fourth grade. Might relationship with my mom is good. I just love her told me about what your daily routine is like you go to school and what what happens then come to the store we bring board games and we play and we stay here into nine o'clock. Then we go home I worked to cash register and independent card. Machine is pretty complicated job now. It's not learn it but when you're just starting to learn it it's really four more years from now. She'll be moving into uncharted educational Israel territory beyond where you ever went. Yes yes absolutely an she should be okay gallon if not like I said it's something I gotta deal with but I'm not the woman it comes to my baby. Don't play Sir no change. They Dare Doreen Boo and her daughter Cura at the Savan food convenience store on the four hundred block of taps. Go Avenue in South Baltimore. It's out of the blocks from W._I._p.. Are and P._I._X.. I'm Erin Hagan coming up this episode Stories About parenthood the sweep the bitter and everything in between right after this out of the blacks is made possible with support from the Esperanza Center offering English language classes citizenship classes help help with processes like school enrolment and filling out forms immigration legal services family reunification and healthcare for thousands of immigrants who don't have insurance to turn your compassion into action for immigrants in need aid visit Catholic Charities Dash M._D.. Dot Org Slash Esperanza out of the blocks is supported by clearview energy providing one hundred percent green energy in Baltimore through renewable resources like wind solar and hydro with the goal of helping protect the environment and slow the rate of climate change by being a clearview energy customer in partnership with the Arbor Day Foundation. You're supporting the planting of ten thousand trees in national forests and other areas of need across the United States learn how to leave green at clearview energy dot com hello. I'm Mike and I met deep teen road six to two and Carolina also at sixty two. I'm Mike's wife. We have a twenty two year old still living with us just Dupont six to two deem wrote. He's very shy and he's very kind very kind. I don't really know how the scribe myself by. Guess site want to see things in few words I count that we'd be empty nesters by now but I'm still were professional parents and we have <hes> twins who are fifteen. They came to us from outside the family but we're all one family now our blunt together hi my name's Christian. I'm nick launch now. Fourteen fourteen years old going up fifteen going to high school at friends and I was at Odyssey announ ongoing to ninth grade at G._M._c. their father and Mike for high school buddies and it is a very good friend of mine. We both went to Baltimore Polytechnic but unfortunately he died from cancer. Now he wanted wanted me to be the Guardian for his points and I said Yeah you know I'd be honored so that's how we ended up on this block. My Dad was diagnosed with cancer. He was in the hospital so frequently until you essentially there's something to a hostas and then a few months afterwards he died and then my life began going into other down spiral my mom was she had type one diabetes and she would constantly forget tigger insulin or you know take too much in something that you would you know go to Tantrum like moments where her actions were basically on readable and then. I'm not sure what happened or we're all probably assuming that's like something being diabetic but she died in a car crash. You know who would've thought that both parents would be gone. I remember on the sad day when the mother was declared in pastor stor came and she asked if we would take him I turn to caroline. Can we take them and counts it yeah. She put two thumbs up yeah. We'll take them only became like every other mother and father <hes> like my biological ones nice carrying loving and wanting to do for us. It's been a real rocky road. I do struggle with frustration and depression and the negative emotions but that's just the human experience getting over it gets the pain is less than must every year and you know we do things like go the graveyard we don't WanNa forget you want not to have the pain but you WanNa keep the memories so the boys are always afraid. They'RE GONNA forget. I was mostly nervous own way start here. I was trying to be perfect child. After maybe a couple of months I got used to living here and I started to relax more <music> like the piano <hes> yes. I like it a lot dome for it's very interesting tones <music>. It's called Far Away Bells. Just the small practice piece <music> Scotsmen blocked APPs. Go what's on your mind. What are you up to today? You daughter bag and now it's all the Time Warner clouded jail. Davies Mazar was pregnant and start doing heroin crack anything she can get your hands on and pills and she gave my daughter adoption at the hospital escapee away. I came home at the doing like three years and and looking for ever since nine months later I got it back and she's in my arms. What's what's your daughter's name Anna? What was it like the first time you get to see an empty Bris like a weight lifting off my shoulders as I never wanted to be bad bother? My father was not vowed to never happened happen and I got so what are you doing now to make ends meet the bills I work at the dishwasher during the day and night shift for as a security guard and quite for to doing how'd you get into that <hes> being on the streets by time get invites you know because I mean obviously see I'm white so you got for yourself around here. Type thing and that's the way father they're actually right above you used to get into boxing gym when he was boxing professionally and that's where it all kind of started. We'll start doing some of my life so I've been doing that now. For about twenty four now in these fights is at a pretty good personal line hopes up money if you win. It's usually about one hundred three hundred dollars because I'm not there real big yet but you know I'm working. Wind things. Take Time so you WANNA make the money time into when it's showtime. It's so tom it's that's it. There is nothing house. Matters matters is beating the crap out of his versus until they don't get up that I got a daughter to be. What did they got? You know what I mean. That's the way I look at it are most popular smoothie is the green gangster. It's peach pineapple. Mango apple juice is ginger wheat grass spirulina out and spinach so is really good for you but it also just tastes like a really good fruit. smoothie liquid gold is another one of my favorites pineapple ginger banana that tumor rig coconut milk doc. I'm so again really good for you but as taste like a really good smoothie Yola in Zanga and everybody calls you twenty four thirty one St Paul Ryan House Juice Bar and cafe our philosophy is healed the hood so <hes> we are one hundred percent Vegan but we really cater are being options to people who wouldn't necessarily we pick up something healthy or begin to eat regard going on on the grill over there on those are beginning chicken drumsticks or chick on drumsticks. We call them hot things we do. We have a lot of like what we call. Mock meets <hes> like we have a goldfish wrap. which is everyone's favorite? It's being emphasised belay <hes> season with seaweed to give it that fish flavor whatever job I had Atta always ended up being manager because I was just you know like focused then determine then you know all Belinda put in all the word and then finally got to a point where I was like any this for myself. I can't make everyone else's dream and make them all. This money needs to do it for myself. I was always scared to Kinda step out cancer. I like you know. Security always wanted to know like okay every two weeks. I'm going to have this much money. You know my paycheck. WHO's GonNa at this and then I think having my daughter finally got me to being like okay? I need to do this for her. Because I want you know I want her to be able to see entrepreneurship and have something you know to leave for her her. I think she probably will take to a whole `nother level. Though my name is Colella and I am nine years old I o ones Ingush. She is my mother. Sometimes it gets very busy lag. I might be in the middle of washing the produce that I have so like go wash my hands and take the orders and then I have to go back wash my hands and finish the produce and until I have to go back here and take the orders and it just goes back and forth back and forth back four yeah. Would you describe your mom like her. Personality will kind of person sees very sweet. She's very determined to get things done. Yes what do you think is the most important lesson you've learned about life from your mouth. Is I lost custody of my daughter for about a year. I had to go to Rehab to regain custody of her. Were the state would have took her. That was very hard for me. It's took everything in me but I knew I had to do what I had to do to get my daughter back. I'm Brianna Chris. I'm here at the park my daughter play. Her name is Asia End. She's to how old are you now. I'm twenty tell me about your <hes>. Growing up in Hamden like childhood like it's been rough growing up with my dad with addiction and that gave me a lot of stress in Maimi really depressed when I was little title I had to do counseling and stayed myself. I cried ally was just very depressing watcher. My family goes through the disease of addiction for the longest time. I always told myself that I would never follow my father's footsteps in it's. I don't want to blame it on him. Because it's not my fault. I make my own choices but I believe maybe if I didn't see as much as I did. Things would be a lot different identity graduate high school. I it's hard. It's really hard it all started out with taking taking pills and then from there they just got too expensive and heroin was cheaper and I started doing heroin and it just completely went downhill from there I lost my daughter was homeless here on the streets in code and it just got tiring after a while I needed a change me and my daughter's father had split up in our stuck down here with nowhere to go in. My mom lived up in P._A.. And she came down and got me and up there. I didn't know body or nowhere to get anything in it just. I had to kick it so how's your health and sobriety situation now. It's good I mean I can't say I've been completely cleaned. I've had my mess ups here. In there everyday struggle address go take a day by day. Do the best I can and that's all I really can't do let me ask you introduce your daughter. She's coming over here. I'm sure Asia Asura you. Can you say hi telling her name to hi. I'm Asia. How say I'm too so you're twenty? Asia is to tell me recorders. Tell me what your hopes are for Asia growing up and the person that she is when she gets to be twenty years old see I changed my lifestyle a lot for her so and we have moved out of him than so she don't have to see all the drug addiction around here. I wish the best for her in life. I wish said she does everything she imagined she can. I should finished school goes to college in follows her dream. I don't want her to struggle like I did. I just wish the best in life and I'm GonNa try my best to give everything in this route that I possibly could from W._i._p.. Are N._p._R.. Exits out of the blocks were stories about parenthood in just a moment <music> what else nickel emboss teach your got denies that grumpy to make everything homemade here so we have to always start from scratch and morning or lamb or tomato sauce or stuff grape leaves or spent a copy. Da Octopus will send Sulaiman it also help freeze every day and everything so made so either way <hes> always doing something from scratch you by the lamb flick car they get the finest ingredients we can start from there. It's usually all day process everyday. Everything got real. I mean porperty George Actor Nationally Acropolis Restaurant twenty-seven Eighteen eastern can I have you introduce use yourself in the mid three of the north at ninety seventy one jen wadi eighteen. My Dad was chef restaurants in the Baltimore area then he just finally you always wanted to do his own thing and we had the opportunity. He bought the restaurant here in nineteen eighty six and it's been going on since then. We'll have good years good gardens good business. That's starting. Tell me about what's your earliest memories of. When you kidding this police I opened up? How old were you by twelve and actually hated it because I couldn't play on the weekend coming in work and kind of grew on me so now it's <hes> more of a love affair? I guess I guess when I got married and had my first kid was either back to school or stay here because they want to retire took a lot of sleepless nights to decide. Couldn't it all right away so I decided to stay here. Not Let that out and that's what I finally took over. I guess after twenty years is now in my ends now now. I guess you glad you made that decision. Sometimes restaurant business redtop. I was George. Do you do accidentally work. I'm very probably <hes> not too big on compliments but he's he told other people who thinks I'm doing good job. He hasn't killed me. I think I'm doing all right love. One another life is too short. The world is is too cruel. One another come on Francesca Sanchez off Broadway right here. My seven eleven POW GINO POW recovery does for individuals told me the story of how how right here recovery five years ago I came to them with a alcoholic addiction as you can see now I'm so battling with a little here and there and they accepted me. No I D no social security car no nothing and they accepted me and they accepted me for nine months and they battled with me through my disease a battle through me with my diction. They battled through alcoholism the battle with me talking to my family me and I haven't food to feed in my mouth me not having the education tobacco with a have you know what I have mound because of him then I have my family. Obviously you have a new child. told me your daughter's name emily emily she is too and I'm doing good right now. At one point you were suffering. Pretty bad from addiction is pretty bad we I'm I was I drink a lot like probably a couple of gallons day like a lie. I'm so sorry by saying this with a battle in my hands and you guys had like got me unlike totally like I feel like so Ashley's right now because this is not how this should be going down absolutely not because it's not what happens unusual basis at all at my house should be and like feel like sue guilty right now because I tried so hard and you guys on interview million due to agree with a bottle of my hand with my child my hands so now I don't feel that great and I know you seem like Oh my God you drinking. Your child is here. What the Hell you doing no you can say nobody I know because I would think that I would think that as a mother but soup beautiful she's a beautiful kids Shane? She is absolutely amazing. Can you get her and now I am waving to the guy crush street for a beard but I wanted to know the true. This is the truth you guys want to you. Guys want the truth. Is You know some people want catch up all the wings on the fries. Just one we also that's good catching. My name is Helen Chen and we are at Northeast Marquette Onto One one East Monument Street Baltimore Maryland. In order to actually my parents came here I <hes> to the states two years before we came and then they started actually at my aunt basement <hes> they didn't even have anywhere to live <hes> so for two years they worked. I guess wherever they could <hes> to raise money to bring us over here <hes> so we came over here with myself and my two siblings nine hundred ninety nine when I was nine years old drums I think so I think I was <hes> six or seven Monday. I told me that they were going to come to the states. I mean I was too young to understand why I didn't. I didn't even know what America was but they're like. Oh you know we're not going to be here. We're leaving so please be good with your grandma. <hes> and we'll come and get you sin actually my mom. I'm came back to Korea so that she could take all of us and my dad stayed in the states while she did so she just came and she said okay. We're going to America. We're getting on the plane and I said Okay and we landed in Dulles in Washington and <hes> my first impression was that everyone in America seem to know everyone because when you go past someone and you get an eye contact with them they I'd say hi to you. Since Middle School I came out and help them here and I will work all summer as a cashier and each week I would get forty dollars which is like a lot. If you're a middle school student that continued until I was in high school and they told me you know if you work this summer and get only forty dollars. A week will buy you a car and I said okay so you know everything that my parents do. <hes> of course you know working here could be easy for me but they made it so that I can really work hard and forgetting something that are really want and I think that's what I'm learning here. You know even till now on multiple. What do you do family dollar to travel? I don't know that comes out Joe Applicable Chart Huddle that you get what who will he saying that he's really thankful for us the two daughters in the one this on that he has he just really happy living here. Sorry slick a free therapy. Sessions name is Leroy Alexander. I Live Eleven twenty eighty nine ward St Avenue South Ball felise thirty seven years or more must've way is is is a story of man. I have been basically homeless. I'm a recovering addict almost over three years clean and struggle and I see that food is reason because I was in a drug addict. They ran around the street yourself ball more more getting high every day. I've been to the gutter went from the bottom. I was dirty our staying in Saxton ahead on for for week that was so hard that if you take them all bay still withstanding the same direction and eight eight candy off the ground I've seen people put solar down on the bus now that went and drunk at a food out of the trash can and I wouldn't trade it in anything because it made me the person that I am today. It made me stronger. It made me understand that only thing that you're going to get out of life is what you put into life and I call it the stay away from the negativity the drugs the UH designed to even sale use will be around the string theory and if what I tell you all can help just want y'all then I feel good because I know that someone actually heard what I was saying and took it a hot. Tell me a little bit more about the story daughter. She was born in wearing a place where you can have custody what happened to situate in my daughter at the time. When my daughter was born she was worn addicted to heroin because my wife was Herman Attic at the time so when she was born we knew that we couldn't take care of her and give a wishy rightfully needed so ever she if she got detox from the the Department D._S._S. we asked them for help so they brought a leading into into our life who took outdoor from three months oh and razor busy as own child but she never denied the fact that home of was she never Chadha have different? She told her these things he's so and I say I love Ms Tamna therefore because that's the lady who helped raise their daughter she came into allied at a time where we know that we could not give out daughter what she really needed a wish. She wanted our life. So you get to see told me your daughter's name Rebecca. You get to see Rebecca on Sundays now. We we get to see a because you know she goes. She's in school and stuff so we get to see a few want. If she went to come with US Friday. She'll come Friday if they night till Sunday and she'll go home and get ready for school and stuff but we're in her life like how days are birthday we do we can do for her. When we can do it me her? My wife we'll go might might go down the hall. Well my Go-to to the mall by e Oh my go- curl park and this enjoy being around each other and the crazy thing about it. Though we don't mind I have no money but we have the company of one another and distribution daughter is a fulfilment enough where though sometimes we money all the time and time we do we eat or whatever nine ten time we'll take out on food jude apart without but that is one of the most beautiful times when it's just me and my wife my daughter <music> and that is going to wrap it up for this episode. Out of the blocks is in original production of W._I._p.. W._I._p. n._P._R.. Rex Air hanging I produce the show along with window patrick who creates an original musical score for each episode. Eve You appreciate what you here on. 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Amanpour: Scott Jennings, Alec MacGillis, Tim Robbins and Esperanza Spalding

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Amanpour: Scott Jennings, Alec MacGillis, Tim Robbins and Esperanza Spalding

"Hello everyone and welcome to Amanpour. Here's what's coming up. The process was good enough for President Clinton and basic fairness dictates. It ought to be good enough this president as well Senator Mitch. McConnell holds the key to the impeachment pitchman trial of president trump. I ask his former aide Scott Jennings and his political biographer Alec Macgill's about the Taciturn Senate leader then it is a story that unifies it is our story rigging his career of art and activism full circle. The award. Winning actor Tim. Robbins is on raising up refugees in the new colossus and Esperanza spalding. Takes Aches the jazz scene by storm. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christiane Amanpour in New York. Senator Mitch McConnell Karnal. Is the man in the spotlight as the architect of the Senate impeachment rules. The majority leader and Republican senator from Kentucky has long enjoyed a reputation nation as a master tactician from stonewalling president. Obama's choice of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court to blocking campaign finance reform his imprint into shape America for years to come and now as powerbroker in the impeachment trial of president trump. A toss he says. The Senate should handle fairly our founders trusted the Senate to rise above short-term passions and factionalism they trusted the Senate to soberly consider what has actually been proven urban and which outcome best serves the notion but Democrats are crying foul not fair at McConnell holding out against witnesses and and pushing for a short and swift trial. So who exactly is Mitch McConnell. And what's been his political journey. I ask is longtime former aide Scott Jennings and Alec McGill is author of the cynic the political education of Mitch McConnell. So let me just put it this way to open up. You'll guy hi is the man of the moment and by your guy and Mitch McConnell Scott you worked for him Alec. You've written the book on him you know. He's getting a lot of publicity now for somebody who's pretty pretty taciturn. I guess I want to know how you foresee his performance and how it will be described at the end of this because you you know. It's very contentious Scott you I well. I think he's doing a few things that are consistent with his worldview about the Senate and the nature of politics x number one he I think is trying to protect the institution from setting precedents that they may regret in the future. I think you've seen that some of his tactical moves and number two. He strongly we believe that politics is a team sport. And that's why he's a strived. I think Over the last several days to maintain as much party unity as possible when it came to setting up if the rules and moving forward with the trial so to me. I think that's what he is going to be. Remembered for. Here is trying to keep his people together and trying to stop the Senate from setting precedents. That could come back to haunt the institution In the future does that resonate with you. What kind of precedent do you think? He's trying to stop. And we'll l.. Somebody who has so clearly hitched. His wagon to the president of his own party actually be remembered In terms of an impartial jury and setting happen impartial system. Here yeah I would see it quite differently. Actually I think what you're seeing is actually Senator McConnell's willingness as we've seen before to really upend and an undermine a lot of the the norms and precedents and traditions of the Senate even as he man just mansion somehow to still be seen as as an institution list as a Guardian Institution. He's in fact willing to push things a very far too to achieve his political ends in this case protecting the president but more broadly. I think what you're really gonNA see coming out of this. Trial is just how closely senator McConnell has has linked himself to Donald trump trump. He played a huge role in trump's election. In Two thousand sixteen. I think a larger role than many of us really acknowledge and now will be even more closely yoked in history and and in his legacy to this president. Okay so we're going to talk with both of you about that role but to set it up. Let us play this sound bite from Mitch McConnell in which he is talking about this is before the impeachment before the process even began about as you said joking himself to the president. Then I'll get your reactions everything I do during this. I'm coordinating with White House. Counsel there will be no difference between the president's position our position as to How to handle this to the extent that we can? What do you make of that Scott? Well look the Senate. Majority leader has made no bones about it he. He doesn't think the house should have impeach the president in the first place. So that's number one number two. What he tried to set up is something? That's entirely consistent with what happened during the bill. Clinton impeachment Back in the late nineties in terms of both the way the Democrats in the Senate work with Bill Clinton the way the rules ultimately work. And that's how it all shook out this week. You had the president's lawyers on the Senate floor floor. Being proponents of the rules package being put forward by the Republicans in the Senate. The difference of course is that we have a much more partisan atmosphere now and the Clinton years it was one hundred and nothing vote in this particular iteration. The rules package was split along party lines but ultimately the way this trial is being run is pretty much the way they ran it During the Clinton years and so for him to say that he's working with the White House in that clip that you played that's not inconsistent with the White House operations with the Senate Democrats back in the late ninety ninety so again. I think that I disagree with what Alex said earlier. I think what he's doing is very consistent with the most recent impeachment example that we have the only thing that's inconsistent. Is that several Democrats in the chamber. This time around who voted for the Clinton rules including Chuck Schumer. Now want a different set of rules. And I just don't think McConnell thinks that's very good idea to change things rules just because you have a different party in the White House during the Clinton rules processes you correctly said it was one hundred two to nothing. It was unanimous. It was bipartisan. And at that time also you had the leaders of both parties in the Senate who got together behind closed doors and figured it out. That's not happening today and do. Do you see any chance. People are pointing Democrats maybe pointing to maybe some moderate senators on the Republican side. Who they may be able to convert to their cause I mean? Is that a tool likely own do you think as Scott said and most people believe the The measure will be to acquit. Quit along party lines with measurable be to to quit. But you have seen it's notable you have seen some pushback from some Republicans on some of these some of these rule and procedure issues. She was on the trial. That's pretty notable I would say to to Senator McConnell's quote about about being completely enclosed confirms in consultation with the White House. It's it was. It was a remarkable quote. But but you have to hand it to McConnell Senator McConnell. He's he's always been quite candid. refreshingly candidate on sort of points of sorts to exhibit his kind of rob political instincts. Think back to the time. What ready set about Barack Obama and the number one goal being to keep rock Obama for being a two-term president does show these flashes of kind of Candid candid moments like that. It's also worth pointing out. Though that the rule. How trial has been shaping up is not in fact identical to the to the Clinton impeachment there? There's a whole list list of of differences that we could go into for instance Senator McConnell's insistence on and holding a vote initials insistence on holding a vote simply to bring the evidence Over from the House. And we're going to be getting a lot less lot less Evidence a lot less witnesses than we did in that impeachment prince so there are some really major differences. It's not just that the political climate has has changed so much since the late ninety S. Okay so let's just roll the clock back a little bit and I WanNa start talking about Mitch McConnell himself and his evolution and particularly how he has scored. You've said yourself that That he has been a the principle enabler of the trump agenda. And you heard Alex say that you know. He was in large part because of his policies and kind of things he did in the Senate kind of responsible. Oh for paving the way for president. Trump's election just describe for me. Scott what you mean by president. Trump's principle enabler. Well well look. I think this presidency looks a lot different if Mitch McConnell and his Senate majority. Isn't there making things happen. You know without McConnell making the tax cut happen the trump presidency. They look different without McConnell setting up situation where Donald trump could remake the federal judiciary. This presidency looks a lot different. I think people discount the pent up demand that existed in the Republican and Conservative Movement for tax cuts conservative judges in regulatory form that had been built up over ten years remember. The last. Two years of the Bush administration were largely a wasteland for policy moving forward if you're a conservative and then of course all eight years of Obama see full decade were conservatives thought they were in the wilderness and so here comes McConnell. He sets up a situation where the next Republican president can remake the federal judiciary. He keeps his people in line and passes a tax cut. They've done unprecedented. Ascended amounts of regulatory reform taking onerous regulations off of business. These are all things all things that required legislative skill someone who can keep his party together in the Senate if McConnell's not there. I'm not sure. Trump could have driven a systematic agenda like that so in some ways I've trump is sort of up in sales and marketing and McConnell's down and you he's like the product engineer and even though these two guys are very different you sort of need both ends to make a company work and so far. I think it's it's working. McConnell himself has said this has been the most most successful period of centre-right governance in his history in Washington and trump's played a part in that and McConnell certainly played huge roles. Well okay I like I want you to comment on that. I particularly I want you to tell us and remind us all how important Mitch. McConnell was for laying the groundwork for president trump's election Mostly mostly about the Supreme Court justice. Fight the T.. Denied President Obama the ability to name his Supreme Court justice also citizen United Lighted and the the money. That's able to go into the into the elections. Now just describe how you have sort of talked about Mitch. McConnell is a very important important political figure in today's Politics Oh absolutely and he was just so crucial to to Donald Trump's election and so he's really been yoked took trump really from the very start. If you just start in the election year there were two key moments in the election year one was his refusing to even hold a hearing Much less to vote for for Merrick Garland after he was nominated by by Brock Obama with Nine months left and in the year Before the election that really served to to to drive a lot of a lot of conservative voters to come out to vote for Donald Trump voters who might otherwise Religious just voters who might otherwise have have had some qualms about trump came out to vote for him in huge numbers because they wanted to make sure to to win that Supreme Court seat Later later in two thousand sixteen there was the key moment where the CIA was alerting. The White House and congressional leaders about the role of Russia Russia in trying to influence our election. And it was it was Mitch. McConnell who in a crucial moment basically warned President Obama against speaking taking out about that interference saying that he would attack Obama for for for making things partisan so voters did not find out as much as they could have about that interference before the election. That was huge. And then going back. Further Mitch. McConnell Senator McConnell has been very pivotal in preserving the flow of your huge unregulated spending on our elections. That's really been number one political goal and that is really I as I see it helped foment a lot of political cynicism among voters about out our political system that cynicism and resentment of played a big role in Donald Trump's election so I think when historians look back my Mitch McConnell's real legacy like a C- As as a senator and as a Senate leader will have been to bring us Donald Trump and now to help keep them in office. Scott I WANNA ask Hugh because Mitch McConnell has said himself think of me as the grim reaper. You know the person responsible for preventing certain legislation from getting to the president as we we know during this administration the House has passed. Somebody like four hundred pieces of legislation that Mitch McConnell has prevented from from actually getting anywhere near passing. I I want to ask you about the effect of this kind of whatever. Cynicism will politics as usual on the Senate itself because some a saying like Harry. Reid told The New York Times I believe. Mitch McConnell has ruined the Senate. I'm is that a is that a sour grapes from former Senate majority leader on the democratic side. It is it an accurate reflection of this great deliberative body kind of being ground to a standstill very effectively by McConnell his filibuster and his political agenda of the moment. Well yes I agree with you. That Harry Reid is exhibiting sour grapes. He probably dramatically regrets the actions. He took on the rule surrounding judicial confirmations when he was the majority leader because it paved the way honestly he was the John. The baptist If you will hear for or Donald Trump's ability to Do as many judicial confirmations as he has so yeah I bet he regrets it deeply what he did Back back then. Look I think McConnell values values things in the Senate that can get votes from both sides. The vast majority of the things that have come over from the democratic controlled House are done on party lines just like like the impeachment by the way which didn't get a single Republican vote and so if you're McConnell and you're trying to operate nobody that requires sixty votes. Do most anything. You cannot continue To put things on the floor that don't have sixty votes and so if Nancy Pelosi and her conference wanted to send over things. That had bipartisan support. I think they would find Happier landings landings in the United States. Senate but she sends over partisan legislation. McConnell isn't really have a choice. He has to put things on the floor that can get votes from both parties. which is just not what we've seen from the Democrats in the house? And he's called it the grim reaper. because a lot of the things they're sending over he doesn't agree with But the reality is they couldn't pass the Senate anyway because it's controlled by Republicans and there. Just isn't bipartisan support. For what they're doing so I think he is operating exactly as he said he would. I'll pass things that have support from both parties and I won't be able to pass things that don't it's a pretty reasonable position. In my opinion it's still bitter gridlock and I want to ask though in relation to this that you've you've worked from Scott out for a long long time and attic you've risen this book. I just want to know because dickey comma to politics as a kind of a center right but but right right politician it looks like when he first came to the Senate he was actually centre-left a moderate his hero. Then in one thousand nine hundred four was the Kentucky senator who stood up to Joe McCarthy and his red baiting and to oppose the Vietnam War has he always been Alec a ideolog is he can be called an ideologue no he cannot. I mean I. That's what I concluded after doing. All my research for this book is that he really is not conservative. Ideologue as I came to see it. Mitch McConnell is really the embodiment of of the what I think it was kind of the permanent campaign mindset in Washington in in American politics today. We're really all that matters is the wind is setting yourself up to win next time setting yourself in your party up to win the next election action cycle really without with very little regard actually for trying to implement some kind of a policy agenda for the country. While you're in office he he did make a huge which swing politically over his career. He started out as not just a moderate Republican but Republican but really a liberal Republican back in the sixties his hero was the senator editor. You mentioned John Sherman Cooper who is a a great Really really kind of a giant a liberal Republican from Kentucky back then and from from from McConnell. The shift really happened in the eighties when he got elected to the Senate in nineteen eighty-four barely one in eighty four on Ronald Reagan's coattails and basically. You decided as I see it that that he was going to get reelected more easily in the future and and have a long long successful career in in in Kentucky that he was going to have to shift right into sort of shift with the right word shift in the Republican Party in in the Republican Party in the south and so he varied. You've very quickly basically shifted right in in the mid late eighties nineties. But but it's it's really been quite an evolution for him but and it all comes back to doing whatever you think is necessary to win. It's really all about the wind setting yourself up for the win. Do you think trump will be reelected. And what do trump open McConnell. Think of each other. Do they like each other. I think there's a slightly better than fifty percent chance that trump will be reelected. I think there are a lot of things about his incumbent. Reelection election campaign that track very closely with Barack Obama's incumbent reelection campaign in George W Bush's in terms of resources in terms of party unity in terms of remaking his party apparatus in advancing their technology in advancing their. You know their tactics. I think all of that is extremely similar so on that front. I think he's got a lot going for him. And the economy by the way is better than it was for Obama and certainly better than it was for Bush so that's the positive side of the ledger for trump on the negative side this historic gender gap and I think if I were the trump campaign. That's the one thing I'd be most focused on is how do I recover. You know any part of the female vote that they won in sixteen That went away in the midterms and eighteen eighteen and it shows up in all the polling. Just recover five. Six seven percent of it I think would make him a virtual lock for reelection in terms of what McConnell and trump think each other I think they each each think each other is extremely effective at what they do McConnell's not a golfer and he's not the same kind of you know back slapper that Donald Trump is but I know they talked several times a day and I know they both view each other is keenly interested in one word the unifying word winning trump sees McConnell as a key to his winning on policy McConnell sees trump is a key to the Republicans winning winning Senate races around the country so I think they're They like each other because they help each other. Win Alec McGinnis Scott Jennings thank you both very much very interesting thank thank you thank you ever been locked down. You know suffered a setback fired left out it happens. It happens a Mike. Bloomberg middle class kid works his way through college. Got A job. STARLA family boom fired at thirty nine. 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Career has been a constant constant dialogue between advocacy and artistic expression his most recent play the new colossus pays homage to the immigrants and refugees. Who who came to find a better life in America and also to shape this nation over the centuries? Let's take a look was born in other mature. I was born in Moscow. Oh in the Soviet Union Iran Dot La Vietnam Stuttgart Germany Walker Polian Yugoslavia. The Gun Mahyco tenses parish Louisiana Borneo Malaysia. Budapest Hungary refugee in the year. Nineteen seventy-nine wounded in Beijing. Nineteen percents in in two thousand seventeen. The place title comes from the iconic. Emma Lazarus sonnet inscribed on the Statue of Liberty's pedestal. I talk with the Oscar winning actor director here in New York to talk about this play and some of his. Life's Work Tim Robbins. Welcome to the program. Thank you thanks for having so we started with this exert from your current play Colossus on stage and it's really quite moving particularly in this age where suddenly the fear. The hatred of the foreign is dominant in our culture and in our democracies even. What made you want to do that? And now well we started at about four years ago we were. It was during five years ago. There on the Syrian crisis started talking amongst ourselves. Because at the time I remember there's a lot of rhetoric in the media media about These are potential terrorists and so the play new Colossus is twelve actors Speaking in twelve different languages from from twelve different time periods telling the story of their immigration and It is a story that unifies us. It is our story every time we do it in Los Angeles at our theater. We have a little map in the lobby and we asked people to put magnetic pins in this map of the world To where their ancestors came from and every night in our small theater in Los Angeles the entire world was represented and it started to. We started understand how incredibly diverse our audiences audiences were. But how what a what a gift. That wasn't. How probably only place in the world that you could see that and so then you know at the end of the play I come out and then I ask you share a story with us of a of a relative and the stories? We're here are incredible. Incredible Woman says I want to tell you this story. About American soldier. He was a part of a troop liberating a concentration camp at Buchenwald and he sees this woman start to falter and so he starts to run towards her to to to catch her for she falls. I mean Sargent yelled at him. Stand down so there you know he. He didn't listen any any caught the woman before she felt carried her to the field hospital got in trouble and then when he's out of trouble when visited this woman and this woman at our theater tells me that was my mother and my father. Wow these stories are out there this story an at this divisive time time when we're finding so how many reasons to have differences to be able to be in an audience and have the audience share this experience with us but then to share their own experience variance and to understand that the people they've been sitting with for the last hour and a half share a story with them whether it's this generation or five generations integrations ago. We all have this common DNA. I mean you know not put a fine point on it but obviously the name refers to the poem by Malaysia. It was put on the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty and each night in your performance and actress or an actor reads reads the poem including we have to remember the nut graph so so to speak. Give me your tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free the wretched refuse of your teaming. Shore send these the homeless tempest toss to me. I lift my lamp beside ride the golden door so recently president trump's chief of immigration Cancun Cinelli had his own take on it in which he said. Give me your tired and your poor or who can stand on their own two feet and who will not become a public charge. What do you think you'll audiences would say to that? Well first of all be where. A politician The tries to rewrite a poet. This is politics. This is why they are limiting and restricting refugees historic low low. Here's what I would say there is this. DNA let's call it a DNA collected DNA and it is first of all the person that said. No the person that said No. I will not tolerate famine. No I will not tolerate religious oppression or fashion or Nazism and risk their life to leave that to find a better future for themselves. There were those that didn't they didn't survive that. DNA did not survive and then you consider they took this dangerous journey and found their way to a border and were able to get past it and and survive sometimes arduous Jewish journeys on boats across oceans. Some didn't make it that through. That journey then arrived at a port of entry here and somehow with nothing created a future. That's pretty rare individual and created a country and yes and created these future generations. Now shouldn't we be thinking about how extraordinary that is. How beautiful that is? How heroic that is that survival that individual that said no and then somehow create a future for his family? You also did Bob Roberts nearly thirty years ago and it has incredible parallels he the character with the current president's a mockumentary but nonetheless we you ahead of your time or were you reflecting doing stuff that had gone pause. I mean it is incredible that that character exists now in the White House it is. I'm sorry I was right. I Apologize You know you ask. How do you counteract this this division in this hatred? It's through humanity. That's the whole. That's what we do when we tell stories. We're trying to remind our audiences that we share something together you know hate is so easy in the abstract There's so many people you know I was just reading my twitter feed. And you know this so easy to sit behind a computer shooter somewhere and be hateful towards. Why do you have a twitter feed? Why are you reading it? Well that's a very good point curious. Yeah I it's like a drug. UGH I should stop doing but but I guess what I'm getting at. Is that there. When you're when you're telling a story to an audience audience when you're sharing an emotion when you're asking people to go on a journey with you in a in a dark room in a theater we find so much that unites us? There is so so much that we share so much we have in common and it for. It's been the strategy of politicians for years and back when I did Bob Roberts to to divide people to divide and conquer. It's a time honored tradition and it's something that unfortunately people fall for But I think artists exists to remind us that that is only one part of the equation and there is a much much more important profound connection that we all have have with each other so talking about the journey you are you amazed by the fact that Shawshank redemption which is probably one of the really major journeys that you've done on on screen and an in real life. Are you surprised that it has lasted this long. I mean it it. Didn't it wasn't a massive hit immediately and it evolved years twenty five years And it's I get reminded of it. Almost daily How important that film is to people? How profoundly affected them how some people says it shifted their consciousness that made them change their way of life? Art Can do that You know that's what we're all after a rare one and I feel blessed to be part of it so essentially it's about your character who is white guy obviously and wrongly accused and is in is in prison. Here's a little clip that we're going to play it and I must admit yeah. I didn't think much of that. First Time I made is on him. Clyde lied walk talk. That just wasn't home around their era places in the world made out of stone inside can't touch talking they asked you. How do you explain the longevity? But this is a very real issue right now. They even call it some activists maybe you do to the prison in industrial complex and the idea that America has percentage wise the most incarcerate two point three million people in prison right now. The highest percentage percentage of people in prison anywhere in the world. Do you see any changes I mean. Do you see something changing on the landscape because there have I've been you know a lot of attention towards wrongful convictions. Life Sentences Death Penalty President Trump has signed. You know a couple of reform tasers. I do see a change. I've been working in California prison system for the last fourteen years We run the actress. Gang runs a rehabilitation program in thirteen prisons on fifteen yards and we asked for the most troubled. We don't want the well behaved. We asked all of our classes to be racially mixed. We ask that they be across gang lines and we get them in a room together together and we start doing improvisation with We teach them characters from dillard and they start with those who don't know what that is. Tell us because it is extraordinary that it's a it's an old Italian art form with stock characters. That's the general comedy it's common performed in the public the square a people's comedy and so we teach them these stock characters so that they have a buffer has safe zone to express emotions oftentimes emotions. They have not expressed for years in prison in prison. There's one predominant emotion anger it's your survival mask as they say when they start putting on the makeup they start saying things like I didn't realize I've been wearing a mask for years on the yard of someone who I'm not. I'm not simply an angry person. I have other emotions I have sadness fear. I have joy in me but they're not allowed to express this and once you procreate a safe room where they they can express these emotions and then share these emotions with former enemies. What happens is extraordinary? It not only transforms the individual but it transforms the collective in the yard when people on the yard see other people crossing those racial lines. Those gang lines it allows them to and I've heard many times times how the program has led to a safer yard now. I wish this was in every prison. Awesome and And we're trying to get there and but I have noticed in the past Six seven years. A real change in the way of thinking in the Department Dartmouth Corrections in the state of California and it's only through their support that we've been able to do this and by the way it it affects everyone. It's also the CEO's the correctional officers to to have to live your life In a punitive environment how takes a toll on them as well. There's a very high suicide rate amongst correctional officers is not helping anybody and so what we're working towards is a more rehabilitative environment. So the critics obviously a a lot of them would say to you. Oh you know. I'm quoting them really. Hug A thug. Is that really what you want to be doing. I mean just keep them locked up. Well does it actually work. I guess what are you looking for to do. First of all it does work. We've gotten studies in eighty five percent reduction in imprison infractions funds for people who have been through our products huge a ten percent recidivism rate compared to sixty percent recidivism in other words the people to go through our program. Do not re-offend does this. Does this system except those figures yes they do and they credit the program now regarding hug a thug. Listen You might want to keep them in jail for the rest of their life but they are going to get out. Most of the people in prison are going to get out at. Some point. Wouldn't rather they exit the prison with better tools to deal with disappointment and changes of emotion than when they went in a public safety issue. But just just those figures. Obviously you've committed a lot of your onscreen and offscreen work to this issue. Dead Man walking which which she wrote and directed as well huge success. And there's been a lot of attention to wrongful convictions and life sentences and death. Row ever sense you've also taken on the Environment Dog. Water is one of your latest films where you play lawyer. WHO's trying to you? You know. Make sure that somehow the situation where industrial company Dupont stops leaking dirty chemicals into the water and sickening the population. Shen just talked me a little bit about how you've you've managed to keep sort of a lifetime of of political social social cultural activism in line with your artistic expression well I've been blessed and I think Part of it is that I I at some point at some point in your life you just want to be doing things that resonate not only with you but with it's what you believe an audience could take out of it I don't WANNA be on a set simply to be on a set I Never really had that desire of always throughout my career had the actors gang to go like a laboratory developed new pieces with almost out of university vessel out of UCLA eighty two. It's almost thirty years. Yeah And it was always a great Respite from Holly. We can be very self-congratulatory We're kind of Celebrate your you know yourself self in a lot of ways and I always found that to be unhealthy and so it was always great to be able to check myself in a theater company where you know when you're doing live if theater the audience tells you right away whether it's good or not you don't have a press releases in publicist to tell you how great you are. You have to actually face an audience and and they will tell you. doesn't matter how famous you are and so that has always been a way to ground myself kind of an oasis away from the machine of Hollywood it and it I think I credit it and And the way I was raised by my parents and The people involved in my life With my own on ability to survive in an industry that oftentimes is quite detrimental to and difficult if you become famous and also if you have social passions Russian political passions at the environmental justice criminal justice and the others. Well it certainly isn't encouraged for actors to speak their mind and you know th that became very evident around the Iraq war But you know I was raised in Greenwich Village. Not far from here by Folk singer and a an a a musician and they they instill values in me My five remember my father speaking out when it was uncomfortable reportable and I admired that and I you know. They tried to infuse that into my children as well Harvey Weinstein's trial is unfolding as we sit here and speak nick and I'm really interested with some of your observations on on him and why you're angry about what he did to women. But also you've you said that you know everybody lionize him as this fantastic independent producer who is such opportunity to little films and maybe actors and actresses who might not have made it without him but you said he was unfairly cheap. He tried to sort of stiff actors out of a fair wage. Even even when you became very very rich by selling to Disney Well that was based on a conversation I had with him where you offered me a role and offered me scale right. After he made that deal with Disney and I said Harvey Winnie the creative elements. That got you here. Start sharing some of that money and then he called me back and said I'll I'll offer you a million dollars but you can't tell any of the other actors on on the movie that and I'm going to pay for the rest of them scale and I said I don't. I don't think you understand what I was talking about. This isn't a personal shakedown. This was a general statement so I chose not to work with him then never worked for him after that. It's really interesting these little bits of of of insight into that character. What's next for you? Tim Robbins what. What's next on the creative side? I doing this colossus tour. We're hitting eight cities in in in the in. The United States really excited about that really excited to hear the audiences stories. That's where the the the place just ignites. The theater usually ignites every night with just beauty and grace After that I have a project that I've written that I'm going to try to put together a satire of about a rampant hid in power. Ah hopefully I can raise to sort of all right. Thank you so much Michael Mark showed you. Thanks for having me and continuing on the autistic spectrum. Our next guest is a force of nature in the jazz world. Esperanza spalding is a bass ace player and a singer who rose to stardom when she became the first jazz performer to win a grammy. For best new artist she learned the violin at the age of five live on went on to launch her career which included teaching at Harvard. She Explores How music heals the soul in her newest solo album twelve delve little spells and she spoke while Walter Isaacson about how she's pushing the boundaries of jazz. Welcome to the show. Thank you thank you for having and you know you. Music is such a rich hybrid of many different things. Tell me about your personal background growing up in Portland and sort of the mix that made you. Yeah wow well I grew up in what we call into northeast Portland and the rough Melbourne is was the roughest neighborhoods. You could find Portland Compared to some other cities I think we had a milder version of rough. There were some nights of sleeping in bathtubs because of gun par outside But for my perspective I I didn't really process the danger right because in the house we were reading a lot and and my mother was playing a lot of music so I grew up surrounded by records and by the radio on a lot and starting from five. I was a music programming so my life as I remember it was a lot of music playing on a lot of reading and a lot of talking with my mother about books about sound so it didn't really you really register and you came from multi-ethnic background yourself has affected your music father and your mother tell me them well. Oh my father is a average brother. You Know Black Man Without a knowledge college of our ancestry to the continent of Africa Specifically knowing where what region are blood comes is from that direction but my mother is a mix of many European ancestries and some African American ancestry and to answer your question. Maybe growing up without an anchored sense of cultural identity. Meaning it's not. It's not centered in an identifiable culture. That I can point to insult. I'm one of them. Oh yes I'm one of them. Maybe maybe that has allowed me sort of freedom or non expectation when I move through the world to be associated or affiliated with a camp camp. I don't feel beholden to any kind of musical genre or cultural center. I'm designing it as I go with. Whatever I find that I like and that very much is my way through the world's culturally as well and you picked up music around age? Fives from your mother. Your mother was studying a little bit and Turnley. You're playing Beethoven. Is that right yes. There were Mendelssohn and Beethoven was in there and Mozart. It was in there. I mean I I heard you play. Lock Cello Suite neighborhood. Yeah and I I can remember this station like the total body actively during that music and I had I had never felt the sensation like that before and I just remember going. I have have to do that. Whatever that whatever's happening right there? I I need them five And Fortunately Lee. There were a lot of music programs in Portland for children so I dove into the Chamber Music Society of Oregon and they started us on this rigorous the study and practice of classical music with the violence. The violence it was it was too high now. I understand the frequency was just a little too high back and I skipped the cello which I was always wanting to play but they never had one of my size and I jump straight to the base would attract you play play double bass mainly right mm-hmm against sound a similar kind of reckoning when the tone affected my body I mean so much of the music that we consume now through headphones. Maybe it's easy to forget how powerful acoustic instruments are on the body. The physical experience of resonance is so profoundly. Louis moving and that is what activated my love for the instrument and thank God because the Instrument Double Bass was my way into an improvisational music and into my dance with the jazz which is sometimes very intimate and sometimes more like we're doing our own thing in macleod. Talk about seeing Yoyo Ma on Mister Rogers neighborhood playing when you're five and now you teach at Harvard there right. Do you do deal with him. Did you tell them the story. I told him that story. I've I've cried before him many times before Yoma. Yeah thinking about that initial exposure to music. I'm humbled and reminded that we really never know the impact that we're having avenue on people right so fred Rogers using that platform to open up that screen and fill it with everything he could imagine that could be meaningful in nourishing to young people. I hold that in my heart often is just a reminder that as a performer whereas a individual who has the privilege of being in public spaces often. You really never know what you're activating And I I pray I strive I will can. I'm working towards really becoming very mindful and intentional. About what what I bring in with me until those public spaces because look at the power of that one show I know so many people who were affected and babysat and inspired and reminded reminded of their value right to be in fulfilling in full experience as a young person. And thanks so that show. I have so much gratitude and respect for for Fred Rogers and of course for your Yama one of the great things about playing Bass yes ask you get to sort of do a blues line Gary that okay. So how did that to move you into jazz from classical well. I don't know I was in classical classical. You know we were playing Beethoven. You know when you're in the water it's just the water rates when they picked up the instrument and at the time said what you do. Is You mark the harmonic sound through time. And I realized that that was being given permission to play by ear in response. What was happening in real time? which is what I was getting in trouble for the classical pedagogy? I just knew I knew that that was a home I have found. I understand what that meant. I knew that that was a home improvise music and as I started to hear the music I knew they were talking. I knew there was some spiritual personal experience affinity in the sound that was emanating from these records and in my heart my spirit and I say that my relationship to jazz sometimes intimate and sometimes it's far away because it is such such a commitment and I feel authorized to speak as a jazz musician if I'm not deeply in the practice but But I knew that I knew it was going to be a part of my DNA musically forever. You know you once sang and said that jazz ain't nothing nothing but Seoul explain that you could say the same way that we strive to maintain a certain kind of spiritual hygiene you know you meditate territory. You pray you study. We strive to develop that spirit spirit that we all are imbued with. I think jazz is similar. It's a spirit. It's an energy. And it's with our responsibility as practitioners to Stewart it and to have good hygiene and good practice to make sure that it's moving through us at a high resonance that is doing good when it comes out of our body As we hold it in our body and I very much feel that you can be a less technically proficient practitioners music and bring forth the spirit that is quote Unquote Jazz. Which of course is a word that was slapped onto a cultural phenomenon and a pedagogy and a commitment in practice? But since we're using that word yes I'll use that word or at this moment but when you won the grammy for the best new artist right. It was as the first time jazz artists to somebody. Call the jazz artists. Yeah being in proximity with many practitioners of the music who who are such devotees and such profound practitioners of the craft and have never had the kind of spotlight shiner opportunity that I've had because because of factors like my youth or the way that I look or being perceived as sort of an anomaly within a field that at that time was primarily merrily populated by European American men European man. I take that with a very big grain of salt and Philip. Philip are often want to add like an addendum and say year but actually what what. I am not really a jazz musician. I'm I'm borrowing aspects from my study of it but I I pray to use whatever lights headed my way to shine it toward the practitioners that I know are or in the trenches really really deeply in the practice and the community practice of what the music is because it's never been popular music. You know I mean even Duke Ellington said Ed only five percent of the population will ever truly be invested in highly creative music. And that's okay one of the most amazing facts about your life. Was that even before you won your grammy. For best new artist you get invited to be the performer for no for the Nobel Oh bell prize ceremony with Barack Obama. How does that I have no idea? Maybe somebody else wasn't available more look I cable Genus given to it was like here. We are on a big stage again larger than just the stage. Obviously we're we're playing for the king and Queen Okay for sort of our version of the king and Queen you know and essentially what's going through performance. Hey what was going through my body. My head is just let me bring the best just like anywhere because the people in that room of the same value of people in any room for Roll Nobel Prize laureate and we're all human beings you know I mean i. I hope that in a club somewhere are in God knows where with thirty five people we can bring through the same charge and offering musically So honestly the the memory of of different gigs. Don't to to to to to much. Did you play for a the song that I I understood. He liked which was called Espada and that word means hope it means the the action of hoping that you hope better. I hope that. Don't you hope that happens. It's better And invitation to contemplate a what we hope for and to allow sound to support the manifestation of those hopes into realities. We hope you did an in. I think a couple of years ago a cold exposure. And what you did it I think in seventy seven straight hours hours and live streamed yet. You're doing it. What jolt of creativity does that give you to sort of be live streaming new creating an album? I I wanted the performance to the act of creation so we came in blank. We didn't have anything written it was it was a creation. I'm from zero to four album over the course of that livestream event because what I wanted to highlight was the actual process of making making something from nothing. which is the magic of being artist? You've got us about two. So the jolt was what happens when the stakes are as high as they can possibly be. And we're invited into the performance of of creation. And that's what we do for seventy seven hours. I wanted to to expose our creative process. Expose what it actually looks like to be in that strange nebulous gooey. Unknowing place where you're capturing the seat of an idea and then building it into the entire entity something that people can engage with and we managed to make an album. Your latest is twelve little spells. Yeah we came and obviously twelve segment. Everybody bodies what were you trying to do with that. Is that breaking news on there too. Well at present. It's it's speculative genre but now I am seeking to turn it into genre. which is you could say like applied music therapy? Will we draw in elements from allusion work from music therapy from neuroscience from south therapy light syrupy poetry therapy movement therapy and we've it with intention into songs that are intended to affect various parts of the body touch. Yeah So I think that now. Now I've done. My speculative artistic version and the next step is to work with practitioners and actually grounded in science and grounded in the field of therapy therapy music therapy. How sound can be intentionally applied to healing our society? Right now could use a lot of healing. Could music music healing help. Well for starters when we enter a space with strangers and have a shared experience will our attention is directed quote unquote externally at a performance onstage. It's been shown to create a sense of soothing in the body and to increase our sense of connectivity with the people that we share air this experience with so just starting from there experiencing lab music with others increases are felt sense of connectivity of human beings so you can start their as your foundation of the power of music to heal and keep exploring what you change on the stage and how it impacts and increases assist to healing potential for sharing art together performed art together. Yeah this runs thank you so thank you thank okay perhaps thank you thank you. Thank you a healing that so necessary especially in these divisive and sometimes toxic days. That's it so now you can always catch us online on our podcast and across social media. Thanks for watching and goodbye from Neil.

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Hispanic Business at PepsiCo with Esperanza Teasdale

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Hispanic Business at PepsiCo with Esperanza Teasdale

"Tired of hearing content is king. Data is the new oil and personalization is the future of retail cut. The crap provides marketing events in education that crusade against corporate nonsense to place that values lively debate loves thoughtful. Disagreement and hates bastardized buzzwords. If that sounds like something you like sign up to their email. That cut the crap dot. I show. You can also find them on twitter. Oh an all are welcome. Except gary for all of us. It's about predictive where the consumer is going and getting cap of it right. One of the things we want to do is create odds that don't suck Embracing change creates great possibility. I'm alan heart and this is marketing today on the show today. I've got esperanza tisdale. She's the vp and gm of the hispanic business unit. Pepsico beverages north america. She's responsible for the overall hispanic strategy engagement and sales for a two billion dollar plus hispanic business unit in north america as bronzes got an extensive history at pepsi beverage began her career as a brand manager for the last sixteen years. She's had a range of roles driving business results across brands including pepsi propel aquafina and lipton to name a few on the show. Today we talk about what is the hispanic business unit. why was it created. What's the purpose. And how is it being measured pepsico. We also talked about her understanding and and advice for driving diversity and inclusion initiatives within companies and much more. I hope you enjoy this conversation with. Esperanza tisdale will welcome to the show. Thank you very much for having me. Will i know in our last conversation that you are the daughter of immigrants. And i'm just want to start off with what this what does it mean to you. It means that They sacrificed a lot to come to the. Us saliba a better life and it's a it's a really great story where they had to leave their country and come here and not be able to do the jobs then. They held before because they didn't really speak english so they had to take their first jobs wherever they could get them and something that my mom told me was that when they arrived Remember where they came from was Ecuador which is on the equator in latin america in it's typically super hot and humid and sometimes rainy but hot and when they came here they came in the winter so the first thing they had to do was buy winter coats and my mother told me that they went to salvation army to do that. Which fast forward the woman constantly was saying. You have any close to give away. I'm going to go to the salvation army and drop stuff on anything to give away and I do the exact same thing all the time. In fact in my closet. Right now. I have a whole bunch of clothes that i pulled out a week ago. to collect of my family. Say hey guys. Let's go put some stuff in these bags. We'd go donate them because someone else need them. They should be sitting in your closet. that's so important. I mean in in the world today. there's so much going on. I mean obviously covid in the pandemic but just this ongoing conversation about equality and equity and barriers. That people have to achieving the same things that others may not have right privileged privileged. That comes along with that. And it's it's it's as simple as having the rate winter clothes you know so yeah no. It's a great great story a great sentiment in. Wow you know like what would create Heritage to have For yourself coming to it coming for them coming to this country and and making a go of it a successful one at that with you so yeah lot of Resiliency too i. I guess that's the other word that i would point out because i recall the time so my dad didn't have a job. He got hurt at work had to be out and And then you know really. My parents for most of their career worked in factories. They were subsequently workers so they basically had their workstation and then they had their their project that they had to do and when they were done they would give that back and do another one. But you know really. Their their careers ended up being a very blue collar jobs where they had very fixed hours. And as a child. I actually grew up as a latchkey kid which i didn't realize what this meant until i was probably thirty. Two zero is in an hr conference for work and they talked about the concept which in essence was head kind of raised myself in the sunset. Parents went to work. Then i went to school. I came home. I locked the door stayed home until they arrived and that was in first grade and that continued. And i'm like all my god. I can't imagine. Mike crazy children having the keys and being expected to go to school in come back and do exactly what they were told in first grade but they had to work. I mean right. They had to work to sustain our family. And i needed to go to school so it was. It was the while anita on the highly responsible person as you can imagine with that With that type history. Yeah no exactly you have to be. You had no choice. No yeah so that's amazing I was not first grade. But i was a similar latchkey kid by the second or third grade will but but yeah working mom dad and that they actually worked at. I don't know if you've ever experienced this. But they they worked at such. That mom worked first shift. That works second so There occasionally occasionally with some overlap. Where i would get home. That hadn't left yet right to to go into work. Depending on how many activities add after school. So yeah anyway yeah. It's a interesting to have working parents but see to your point. Like i can't imagine my my my daughter who's now a preteen or teen early teen Can't imagine having given her the same like latitude that i was given. Yeah let's talk about the professional path and You are now the vp gm of the hispanic business unit for pepsico. What was your path to get there. Yeah i am studied engineering for college. So i was math and science person in high school and my physics teacher mr adrian nouvelle who actually was so important to my life that he came to my wedding by way and kind of steered me into the space helped me with College application letters recommendation. And so i studied engineering before. You're so i've been in a manufacturing environment for awhile. Bump steel toed shoes uniform union arment. And that's really where i started my career At the same time my company was so gracious that They paid for my mba. So i went to Uconn in stamford connecticut to take classes at night and really got more exposed to concepts of business management marketing research and just really loved it and so then when i asked for a new gig they said finance or sales and unlike okay sales and sales and all i need to go into marketing because marketing guides what we're doing in sales and i think they could do a better job and so i was lucky that my General manager at the time created a job and that was that was the beginning of my marketing career. So very classically trained at unilever and then pepsi around marketing from like you know the analysts all the way through up till now you know a vp gm. Which i'm really proud and excited about and And yeah i feel like i'm in a really great role. Right can make a big impact on the careers of our of our folks drive to mercy inclusion and drive the business results faster than general market because the population is growing so quick so and There's just so many things that are benefiting from being in this role that That i'm really grateful about. But that's kind of the the journey really. It was not linear at all Did not start off wanting to and marketing that side of my brain and that analytical process orientation i think does just a market yeah i think increasing edge to a home maybe ten years ago when you made the original switch i think today it's much more analytically rigorous than it has been in the past But yeah no. That's that's phenomenal. And i've had a few folks on the show. That have transitioned from engineer to sales marketing. And it's it's funny the way you went through that transition in how you described it because a few of them have described it similarly meaning they. They went from engineering the sales and then they realized my words not yours. How bad marketing screws it up. And they need to go help marketing. Try to figure that out because it it comes down to the sales folks at some level whether their marketing is getting it right or not so. It's an interesting learning curve and A pathway that. I've heard before. So what would what drove what drove the creation of the hispanic business unit. And how are you guys thinking about like measuring success. That's a that's a big scene seemingly to me as an outsider like it seems like a big big thing like a big shift in how you're organized. Yeah this was created. I believe in twenty eighteen by out. Carrie who at the time was still pepsi. Co when of are really incredible leaders kirk. Tanner who's our ceo and My current boss. Greg lyons our cmo and they just really realize that you know the hispanic Business is untapped potential and if we have a fixed mindset about it and we're not going to capture that growth and So what's the do different because in the past. Yeah we had a multicultural team. That definitely had A role but didn't necessarily have ownership and so the do different had to be to create an organization that was dedicated to this and have the right resources. And that's what they did and And it's been pretty successful. Ever since the the key measures to the other question you had really is around. Hey can we help grow faster with hispanic consumer than the general market. Can we help build equity with this fan of consumer and And those are some key metrics we look at and so far. We've we've been We've been pretty pretty successful doing that. How have you. You mentioned multicultural marketing. How you see you know multicultural marketing involved being. I mean you've gone. I guess a pepsico all the way to creating a entire business unit this kind of like got its measure of Market success it's not. It's not the historical tack on her on. That might have happened in the past at different organizations. How do you think about the evolution of multicultural marketing. I guess it's related to. What is the current makeup of our population Which is very multicultural So in in a way like our everything. We do should be multicultural. Because that's the fabric of our country But that's not always that embrace necessarily in that way so So i think it's come. It's come a long way to recognize that you do need dedicated resources to unlock it to learn about that consumer really intimately in order to then figure out how to drive the right cultural relevance You can't do one. Size fits all. You can't assume that. Okay well you know h-h-hispanics in this case writer are part of the general market. So general market stuff should work Should you know resonate just as well right. The reality is that you know if you look like hispanic segmentation. There's different things going on depending on someone's Background story you know. I gave you a little bit about what the narrative was for my family story behind every hispanic every multicultural consumer that is in this country and so understanding. That can help you then better. Connect to those emotional subconscious cues in their mind to then build your brand build relevancy so One-size-fits-all is not is not gonna work. So how it's evolved. It is getting even more personalized. It's getting even more specific. So even saying multicultural. Marketings probably not correct because now it's hispanic marketing and within hispanic doubleclick. It's mexican from la versus mexican from el paso or ecuadorian. From new york. Cuban from miami which might be different from tampa like it's real localization. Now and that i think is the unlock to really building brands longer term. I mean it makes perfect sense Mean to make a really bad analogy no like not all caucasians are the same either right like you know and it it. Maybe we should be. We should be thinking about with more rigor that you've got an end to your point around like the population is more diverse. And it. I think we're moving in the direction where i can't remember the exact forecasts but there's a long term potential that like we will be You know white people so to speak caucasians. They will be the minority at some point because people of color Altogether will outnumber Them which is new for our country. not new for many other places in the world but It's it makes perfect sense. I guess the As we think about like how you're approaching the hispanic market like what would you see as best practice right now. Like what's what's the best way to attack it. I mean it sounds like it's not treating it. The hispanic population has one homogeneous group. Like you said but like just curious. What else there might be that you could share. That you're working on or you think is best practice. Yeah know p. and g. probably comes to mind is just incredibly insightful And a lot of best practice so mark pritchard for sure is a champion of diversity inclusion not only for their broader organization internally for the industry and what they're doing right. He's really taken on the responsibility for advertisers to really step it up and drive cultural relevance so i think that he he's done a tremendous job evangelizing that in the organization and the resulting in campaigns. That are extraordinarily beautiful and rich and meaningful Not just for hispanics and african americans but for lgbtq four For for so many different consumer groups and done in a really Thoughtful way and in so. That's definitely a company that i've been looking at the work. I do as like. wow like. They really have done a great job. Really making this part of almost like their company and go to market and into the honest. I don't know if they have a hispanic cnn. I don't know if they do. I think he's just kind of taken the mindset and said hey this this is the landscape before consumer base is. We need to reach him in the most relevant way. Right right yeah yeah. I'm not sure either if they do. Or don't I do know that like he. He's even gone through on a personal level of self self discovery process The like ensuring his own heritage know having a at can't remember his mom or dad but there's mexican heritage on one side or the other and Almost like it for a period of time. And then you coming to like this. Nothing should be hiding like this something. I should put out there. This part of me and part of who i am and so i think. I don't know if that precipitated all the other aspects of what you described but i know that he's been on a personal journey as as well as a business journey. I've heard a little bit of interesting. How we've just been talking about the changing population dynamics with The us in particular end. You know eventually. Do you feel like the hispanic business unit. Maybe not hispanic business unit. But do you feel like this notion of how we go to market to serve varying populations. Does it just mean that. We need to change everything that we do as it relates to go to market. Meaning that like you're hispanic business. Unit becomes the way of the future. Not something that's different or separate like we're talking about it right now. Yeah that makes sense. It does and my boss. Greg lines and i have talked about this too in that in a perfect world right. All marketers have this keen sense Almost like spidey sense for for really understanding on having enough consumer empathy then what they do provides the cultural relevance required based on the different cohorts. But until that is true the banning business unit for example serves as champion at age. Ambien as to why Really need to be more culturally relevant. How doing do that. How to measure that. So that folks start to really say while the straps business results we. We have to do this. We have to start including these insights into our brand strategies to then lead to annual plans and execution and until that happens like you know unilaterally. You still need a team. That's really really going to build the muscle to help also teach and inspire the organization But but yeah we've talked about the longer term. Yeah people get it and people do that in a in a in a a standard way because Mar martin marketing. You would call his multicultural. Marketing nowadays is not general market marketing. Everything like for marketing right. We look for that sweet spot of the of the consumer need brand in the cultural context that cultural context is that urse so so then that's true going forward right like it's it's true so that would should then lead you to place where where your solutions and your coms are all capturing the the bigger pitcher in a way. Yeah that makes sense. I mean it seems like a long term play Meaning that eventually it may come back together again or be the new model so to speak of how we should be thinking about marketing. The population that is changing. And maybe it's not that different than you know. Companies that stand up new business models as business units And then ultimately that new business model eats prior business models launch And they become the new way that the company runs You know so. Maybe that's the evolution to you that we're talking about in some respects. It's definitely regardless of what it is is new muscles that need to be built currently and how how has how has the business been impacted this year given all of the things have gone on in twenty twenty. Yup well early on you know. We definitely paused a lot of things especially on the communication side because the moment was on so uncertain and so Challenging for people and really between you know covert and all of the Systemic racism issues. So we were really thoughtful about like hey like what's the right message to go out and when so And you know what what we did. A lot of this year is his study on a regular basis. Like what's the impact of kobe to consumers so on one hand we definitely were paying attention to what was happening from a statistical standpoint right rightward. Cdc or what have you. But then we also doubled clicking on the consumer's mindset on their sentiment on their experience and what our team did was is in a we. We've got so many different reports from so many different sources that we created to kind of summary dax where we provided the cove impact on hispanics because we hadn't necessarily seen that come through and it was important for us to flag because overall communities of color or being disproportionately impacted mom their frontline workers essential workers. They don't have the luxury of staying home. In many cases if some of them lost their job they may not have received unemployment and that impacts not only how they support their family here. But i support their family elsewhere out of the country. So it's almost like this double whammy of life. My goodness like this is. This is really taken a toll on me. You know needing information in language Became really important in the first you know set of info that came out from cdc wasn't in spanish so you've got a good chunk of the population needed to know things and write in spanish so So the needles us advocacy group. I believe in addition the cdc. Translate right You know and but as we were seeing all of unfold you know at the core. You've got a very resilient group of people who have gone to quite a bit likely to come to this country given up a lot in the hopes for something better so the idea of covid was like ok. How do we deal with this and am optimistic. That things will get better and so so. That's kind of the things that we would express back to our organization and then kind of say. Well what do we do about that. So what do we do. We try to put out positive messaging. Try to be in language. Try to be in media that we know they're consuming right so mobile and digital super easy and accessible more than And really more important than the rest of us right the rest of us. I'm sure we have multiple devices phone ashley. Ipad desktop Google assistant whatever a for hispanics like especially like when we're talking about you know frontline essential workers and In a bit more blue collar. I can get to a phone. Probably little bit easier financially than buying all these other textiles right. So mobile. Just is really a lifeline so it just really impacted than how he thought about. Balancing a year messaging as well as twenty twenty one and realizing that value is going to be critical to the hispanic consumer base. Especially since you know. They're struggling the most renowned with other communities of color and then having does that influence what we do from a marketing standpoint so we basically pivoted pretty quick and in august a campaign called. See on mute. Your voice which was basically recognizing that a lot of multicultural. Us have ton of passion for their community but they don't think their voices will be heard And there was also a lot of you know information kind of that was confusing them. around Registering to vote and so we took the opportunity to say like. Hey will your voice does matter and If you think about it the the cultural nuance was that. Hey we're all zooms. Whatsapp excetera of like a kid here. You're on mute and that if you don't exercise your right to vote or registered to vote than you're right to vote then it's the same misspeaking as a new. No one can hear you so That was a really proud moment for us to to come up with that idea into launch it at a moment where it was really needed and required and so so that's an example of a headed affect our business. Will it affected what we wanted to say as a great example in In a pretty amazing campaign to not to mention. I mean just because of the ability to pivot during a pretty sensitive time but to help give voice to those. That don't feel like they have a voice. Yeah so that's amazing. What what are you guys looking forward to in twenty twenty one in the hopes. I mean. I hope like everyone. Probably the like we can get control of the pandemic. and at least that portion of change that we've experienced starts to search the become seemingly more normal eventually. But what are you guys thinking about for. Twenty twenty one. Yeah we're definitely thinking about how our brand can help lift up the hispanic community so similar vein in this face of in on mu. I'm your voice your future but how how do we lean into the communities that need us most because that's gonna take a while to recover and You know our company and have to say like you know. I'm really proud to pepsico employee this past year. You know we. We made a commitment to a black racial equality journey in the summer. And then we came back for hispanic heritage month and ramona worth amaz A similar commitment for hispanic and so You know how. How do we you know. Then help bring this company commitment down into the marketplace and into the communities. Were they need our help the most. So there's a big elevation of that work and the importance of that work is going to have so so we're gonna spend a lot of time there. In addition to you know higher level. Brad building initiatives and business driving solutions. But i think the piece that a lot of us are just really excited about. Is the community piece right like so. Many people want to do more like if anything. This past year has brought forward. This embassy of you know the us population more than ever and an unlocked people's real passion inside for something inexplicably education. It could be you know helping with scoot food. Scarcity it could be with anything sustainability but That's probably been the most incredible thing that giardi of folks are like. what can i do. I wanna help and and some excited to see what what we do with that. And there's probably going to be some of the most meaningful work will ever do as marketers. You know yeah for sure for sure. I mean it's There is this rumble. A few will community compassionate engagement for various initiatives. To your point. It's not one thing just like we're talking about you know. These demographics are not one demographic many different interests but it is interesting to think about. How could you harness or help enable or empower those communities to achieve more than they may be able to to on their own. And i imagine the loyalty or the you know the relationships that you will ultimately build in the the brand affects backs to pepsi overall Overall would be pretty interesting to try to figure out but doing it with the you know the right reasons. Like how do we just help the community. I and be a part of what's going on i. I can't help but think like you know companies like pepsico Proctor and gamble in this in this In spain as well like you know you're in every single household most likely at any given time right in the united states or have been right like At some point somebody has consumed one of your products. And as we think about the changing demographics of the landscape of the society there are growing tensions. right like whether it's social injustice whether You know the divide and barriers that we put in place systemically to You know us as kids right. Being latchkey kids or childcare is a passionate issue and also a barrier to many many folks out there in the world right now supervises me frankly getting back to you and in pepsico and m. p. and g. is that because your product serve so many people he serve the fabric of the united states. Like it makes sense that you would have to engage in in many of these things And try to find the right way to do that but at the same time it's a i would imagine at some days. It feels like a huge barrier like a huge hurdle like a huge weight that you're carrying around two as a marketer knowing that knowing that that's the case but i i don't know if you have any thoughts on that it's just something reflecting on as we keep talking about things i mean. I think i'm following you. I mean when we did the The voting campaign. You know it was really important for us to be nonpartisan with the right way. And and there's a lot of conversation around that a lot of conversation around that because with a brand as ubiquitous czars the name on the door There's a lot of risk by it. Was the right message to to have and and and you know. That's that's the decision that we made. And and i was incredibly proud of our senior leaders. Who said you know what this is. The right thing to do we have to do this. Go at And and so so that that was definitely a a really formative experience and proud momentous. I've mentioned as we think about where we go this marketers. How do we fulfill this opportunity. We have you know as a company like ours where we've got strong resources to really do the do the right thing when we can win. It makes sense right way right like that's that's a way more purposeful place for us to be and yeah you know folks could arguing well as at your place to do that and that will you know like if not us then who i mean you know we. We have we we We are brand builders and we can reach lots of people to your point so why not reach them with a with a with a positive message. like why not right but it it's a. It's a delicate area. That's for sure. Yeah yeah it's a tricky can be tricky to The execute execute well before we switch gears entirely. I do want to ask you about like your general thoughts on diversity and inclusion in advice that you give you would give other executives. You know Or things that you do yourself Mean we've talked about the business that you lead is is really about serving a diverse group but like bringing that back inside the work environment that you're working in just curious any advice you might share. Yeah i So as a latina executives. I take a lot of responsibility in bringing others along in helping to very actively drive talent that we recruit retain because i feel that. I have a responsibility to do that. And you know the the company is asking for us to drive more diversity and more leadership roles that are multicultural So so. I'm committed to that and i feel really fortunate to be in seat that i'm in that i can influence that so I really really care about that a lot because you know again. It's all goes back to lenny. Parental journey as well like they had other people helping them along the way. I know they did because i met a lot of those people. Some were families or friends. So you know the concept of back and being really carrying about community and others in empathetic like it's it's just natural from a so i am really actively involved in our other that year g which is our employee resource group were there. We have incredible talent that doesn't credible work in addition to their day jobs whether they're in finance or sales or marketing supply chain. It as well as Helping to build the plans and playbook for the hispanic racial equality journey own. You know my my hope is that. I continue to contribute to all those efforts. That really will help us. Make a difference internally and externally. Because i've benefited from other folks but in their hand out for me and given me a seat at the table and so the advice i would say to folks is like you know. You don't have to wait for someone asks you to take a seat. You could get yourself yourself. But once you're there you're you do everything you can with that because that's not nuts amiss and And i think. I mentioned the store to when we first talked but i had one of my One of my great friends and mentors and sponsors and Incredible supporters. John short. Who i went to a meeting. That i wasn't originally invited to but i did all the content and i did all the prep but it was very limited audience because it was just ceo ceo. So's like three people from each side of my kindle problem. But i got dressed the next morning put on my suit. I'm like you know what i'm going to show up anyway. Because what if something happens with the computer that the the deck who knows what i went and like they didn't have the content on deck. The debt you know. Someone's computer wasn't working on mike. Okay i got this week news computer. If you want seis set it out. And then i left the room and johns like will wait here come over here and so we walked in the room and he's like look. There's a c open at the front of the table. You should sit there today. And i might get out but if i didn't go that warning i mean that would have never happened so i showed up now. He invited me to sit. But i showed up. And so i guess. That's what i would say if you've just gotta show up and then and then just do and don't wait for someone asked you to come like put yourself out there Be vulnerable is probably the biggest word right. Brunei brown is all vulnerability and that's hard. That's really hard for people. But hey you know. No risk no reward. You know like so anyway. So that's something i would say to. People is just put yourself out there and be vulnerable in as great advice Of just showing up showing prepared on ready to go in case you get that moment to shine take take your seat totally hundred percent hundred percent and there's another another out say a quick example of our heads. Someone else being very kind to me. Where i just had gotten this job and i had just finished a really really big meeting with a customer and that was my last meeting with that job and then my next meeting was presenting to our ceo ramon and the executive leadership of the company. And so here. I am prepping for literally like the day before. And we're flying back together with another senior executive Credibility greece puma. And so i said to her. I said oh know presenting tomorrow our plans. Do you have any advice for presenting to you guys. Because i haven't seen you guys in ohio. I don't know ramon and she says well you want to review your deck deck over here. So i sat next to her a review the deck with her and she gave me some advice and then And and. And i was like blown away i was blown away but had i not told her. Had i not said a word to her i probably would have never gotten anything so fast forward. The next day i get up. It's my turn presenter. Mona percentage ramon everything went great and everything and And then at the end you know like gray says well. We just need to make sure that That we give her funding and autonomy to do. We've brought her into do find out afterwards. That was like boom mic. Drop like you know. Senior executive basically said that everybody in the room. So y'all gotta let her do what she needs to do and then afterwards like You know she came over to me. And then ramon came over to me and it was like a. I can't believe this just happened to me moment. But had i got astor or or put myself out there to her on the plane to tell her that wasn't i was presenting and she knew she knew i was presenting. She because she said to me. I know i know you're on the agenda. I saw salsa also so anyway against second moment of like you just got invulnerable. Put yourself out there right now. It's funny yeah that's wild. Well you may have described one of these moments. But all i'll transition transition to to my next question which is my favorite question to ask but I can't imagine that that story you just told about grace in representative remote wouldn't be one of these experiences But it has there been an experience of your past that defines our makes a pr today. Gosh remember what else. Goodness i mean. Yeah like i. This is gonna kinda sound sad. But i don't mean to bring it down but like i've lost both my parents already and my mother was very very sick with cancer and the third time she didn't beat it but that whole experience It was devastating but my mother was never alone. You know it was for me to take that role to take care of her. And and that's what i did and And so i learned a lot in general about myself about my family. 'cause then you start talking about all these things like remember when you know like you know you never told me that and it's like okay And man it was just. It was so sad in so many ways but she was never alone and i and i was alone. Parents were always with me into care of me. So beverly was a combination of everything they had done for me for me than do for her and then to do for my dad and so that's probably one of the experiences that you know. Losing parents is like it's the suckiest part of life. But but i. I feel like i did what they hoped i would do. And what they taught me you know which was to it was it was for me to take care of them and i And i and. I and i enjoyed doing that. I enjoy doing that And so yeah so that. But that's a big part of like how. I am just like as a as a person general that i think plays out and like you know how i am with people when they're on my team or cross functional or or whatever I feel really responsible for doing the right thing. And in the right way and really being pathetic to people and it's funny 'cause like whenever like there's conflict or anything in between other people or situations are always step back to the goal must be something else going on you know way something else. That's driving that. You know some sort attention or anxiousness between people there really is discarded the inside trying to think through it in that way because they could be going through something big medium small that is just impacting them to do it. Makes me more human. So the i think i bring a try to bring as much humanity. The things that i do which i hope is helpful in appreciative for people. I appreciate you sharing that story. And it's it's quite the experience in dm Did that you. You've taken away the best parts of it. I guess yeah. And i will tell you Small world so mister finley was boss at the time and my mom was really sick and i mean talk about like a great boss. Scott was just so empathetic and supportive. I'll never forget him for that. Always be a really important person. That i'll always remember. Reflect on appreciate because he was just so so supportive during that time and you would hope people would be right in a company but you know scott really was just a incredible. That's awesome if you were starting your career path all over again. What advice would you give your younger self. I mean if someone reaches their hand out for help after they've kind of done your own take their hand their hands because that's their way of saying i'm sorry and i'm here to help and it doesn't help when you don't take their hand and then next thing you know they continue to to to grow in an organization and do more and more and more and you didn't take their hand so that would be one of my things like take everybody's human everybody learns in different ways ready response in different ways but But don't Don't say no. We're pooh-poohed someone who puts her hand at top yup. That's a really good piece of advice and one that we have not gotten on the show. Oh and and frankly. It's probably really hard to do it. It takes Especially if you know somebody if it's somebody that has you know like you said done you wrong or earn just not treated you well as as well to take the high road like that. I like that will. My next question is probably the silliest question. I ask anyone but i'm building my shopping list based on what people tell me Is there been an impactful purchase of one hundred dollars or less over the last six to twelve months that you've made yes. I bought my si- Really love our ange theory fitness. I go three days a week. However i have like the covid ten pounds on me thought myself in an armband which has like a digital receiver And i think that was about one hundred bucks. Change my Tool if you will my tech gotcha gotcha. So it's like a Attracts like your your activity. Level that constant in class gotcha. Cool will last two questions for you. More marketing focused curious if there's brands or companies or causes that you follow or you think other people should notice of ya so i recently was a Association of national advertisers judge for them multicultural awards. So i got to see a lot. Incredible work in the industry in different categories of course but one of the pieces of work. That was really really impactful. Was the the mastercard initiative where they created. You know a car for for kids people that were transgender. And they could have their true identity on the card in and that was something that is difficult for for them to have with other traditional documentation rights so birth certificate is is what it is A driver's license would be based on your birth certificate. There's a lot of things that i guess cannot be changed. This was a way for mastercard to recognize. Like no like you are who you are. So the this could be your. You know this this cardell reflect your true identity and the campaign was just powerful. Lake talk about three sixty on all all over from from advertising from believe they were part of the pride parade in new york Tons of pr a lot of celebrities celebrating this was That this was available but it just It took a consumer truth as as as hard as it was and said no. We're we're gonna we're gonna find a solution so that that work was just really incredible. Incredible to see it be really thoughtful. I haven't seen the at fine out I take a look. Will last question for you. What do you feel like is the you can either go opportunity the largest opportunity or the largest threat facing marketers today. Seen the largest opportunity would be having a fixed mindset so we're all talking internally around growth mindset and how beneficial it is and it's an idea to that i feel like for me leading this team. That again is still relatively new. It helps us re frame things that may have been done in one way in the past over but last time we did this. It didn't work. This is why it's not gonna work or would we tried it here. You know to kind of say like well like you know but you gotta think about things. Differently right kim. Think about the same way so I've been. I've been using this concept of growth mysel- ladas as we think about how we position things how we communicate to people You know and and drive more learning and listening you know which is which is toughening or that has lots of people lots of history and lots of tenure got on but it's just a way to push new thinking so that's something i would say as marketers need to have a growth mindset not a phrase months. Yeah no i think that's hugely important in you know i'd imagine with relatively new org. You're trying to drive change At scale and men it's my pet peeve to hear what we've tried that before or we we've tried the done that before didn't work I'm like yeah but today's a new day today. The context may be a little different. World is different today than it was before you never know. Let's take a chance together. come on. Yeah we'll esperanza it's been phenomenal. Having on the show really enjoyed the conversation thank you. Yeah likewise. I appreciate you writing mian. I hope we stay in touch and we talk again all right i. It's alan again. Marketing today was created and produced by. If you're new to marketing today please feel free to write us a review on itunes or your favorite listening platform. Don't forget to subscribe to tell your friends and colleagues about the show. I love to hear from listeners. And you can contact me at marketing today. Podcast dot com. There you'll also find complete show notes links to anything. We talk about on any episode. 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Why do I keep having to deal the same issues over and over again? (Most Common Question Series - Part 2 of 5) - Pod #336

EFT/Tapping Q & A Podcast w/ Gene Monterastelli - Emotional Freedom Techniques

20:03 min | 2 years ago

Why do I keep having to deal the same issues over and over again? (Most Common Question Series - Part 2 of 5) - Pod #336

"I've been gene here. Welcome to the tap and QA podcast where every single week we answer the most common and uncommon questions about tapping it E T C, you can get the most out of your tapping practice. You can take the action you want and you can move forward. In a productive way. I know I've mentioned this a number of times over the last few weeks. But it's something that is really super important the way most people find a podcast as from a recommendation from a friend. So I would hope you would be willing to think of someone in your life who is in detaching or whoever's into transformation who is interested about the stuff, and you would let them know about the podcast. So in just a moment what I want you to do is. I want you to hit pause on this episode because according to the statistics eighty six percent of you're listening to this right now on one of your smartphone. Devices a friend text message, tell them that they should be listening to the podcast tapping podcasts dot com or get them. All the information, regardless of the device that they're listening on if you happen to be listening to. In your desktop open up your mail program right now, send a friend Email. Let them know about the podcast it it is an amazing labor of love every single week. I'm thinking about what I want to share. And we have some amazing interviews coming up that I know that you're going to appreciate injure loved ones are going to appreciate as well. So let's multiply that effort because every single time transformation happens in another person's life. It makes all of our lives better at makes the world a better place. Thank you very much for this indulgence. Let's jump into the bay show. This is gene mantra stellian. Welcome to the tapping Q and A podcast recorded live to tape from Williamsburg in. Brooklyn this episode three hundred thirty six originally aired November seventh two thousand eighteen. I hope this find you. Well, wherever you are in whatever time a day, you're getting a chance to listen to this. Thanks for spending some time with me today today, we are continuing our five part series of the most common questions that are asked by people to me through my inbox on social media about tapping and how we move forward. If you missed last week's episode, we talked about how to make tapping routine because people always say, it's a great thing. And I don't use it episode three three five can be found at tapping podcast dot com. Go back and listen to that today. We're going to be talking about dealing with the same issue over and over again in why we do that before we jump into that. I just wanted to thank all of the supporters of the tapping Q and a podcast every single month. We take a certain percentage of those donations that support the podcast, and we actually give it away through kiva kiva is amazing organization. The gives microloans to people all over the world. And the really cool thing is after we loan the money out in the loan is paid back. I get to relent again. And again, and again, so we're getting chance to multiply that force this month. The donation went to the loan went to Esperanza Esperanza lives in Costa Rica, and she's a beekeeper. And so she's in the process of adding more hives, so she can produce more, Honey. So she can continue to support her family through that work if you would like to support the tap into podcast and have the opportunity to get some amazing gifts and have the opportunity to be a part of this loan that would make every single month for small business owners all over the world. All you need to do is go to tapping into aid dot com slash having Jimmy dot com slash support. Lincoln the show notes you can see where that is. So we're continuing the series on questions that are most commonly asked in this week, we're dealing with. Why is it that I keep dealing with the same issue over and over again, I spend time tapping on it. I'm thoughtful about it. I watch videos a use scripts. I might even work with a practitioner, and I'm just not making the progress. I want I even regularly had this conversation with my clients. So we'll be five or six sessions into multiple months of work. And my clients will say something like, you know, gene. I really enjoy your time. You are charming. This is lots of fun. But I don't feel like Rex she making any progress in those moments. What I will do is go great. I appreciate the feedback. Let's plug your intake form, and let's take a look and see what has actually happened. And then what we're able to do as rebelled to compare the current moment to where they started. And there's this recognition that. Transformation actually has happened. So there are three reasons why we feel like we keep dealing with the same issue over and over again, two of those reasons are like the example, I just gave their perception that we're dealing with the same issue over and over again. And the third reason is how we kind of do keep dealing with the same issue over and over again. So it's important to keep these three things in mind when you are frustrated with the amount of progress, it doesn't feel like you're making or it's a good thing to keep in mind when you begin to work on a new issue. So that you're positioning yourself away. So it is able to be able to unfold in a way where you're appreciating the progress that is happening. So reason number one why we feel like we're keep dealing with the same issue over and over again is the phenomenon of the new normal. And so what this is about is win. Things change we adopt to the change very very quickly. And we forget what the old way is like as a practical example last year about this time. I got the new iphone ten and the new iphone ten doesn't have the home button on it. Like the other ones. There's no button that you push. It's all just screen, and so it's a new form factor. And so you use it in a new way. So I got the new phone, and it took me a couple of days to get used to the new way of interacting with the phone because the button wasn't there and I had to interact with differently. A week after I got used to the new phone. I was at a conference where a friend of mine wanted me to videotape. Some of the stuff that he was doing on stage. And so he handed me his older iphone, and it took me about a minute to figure out how to actually video him. Now. Keep in mind, this is a phone ten days earlier I own but because I had moved to the new operating system my brain to slow go the old operating system because it was no longer useful. So we adopt to what we're dealing with. And we forget what comes before how that shows up and transformation is let's take pain. For example. Let's say that you have a knee injury and on the suds scale of zero to ten you would describe the pain as a seven, and so you, and I do some tapping and all of a sudden the pain levels four, and you're very happy about that. Because. We've almost reduced the pain by half. And so you wake up tomorrow in the pain level is only four, and you're still appreciative of that fact, and you wake up the next day in the pain level is a foreign you're still appreciative of that fact, and you wake up the next day. And the only thing that you notice is I'm in pain, and I hate being in pain, so four has become the new normal, and you have forgotten what it was like to be at a seven because the further distance you get from the old discomfort, the more likely you are to forget it. So it feels like you're dealing with the same issue, which is the pain in your knee. But it's not the same issue because the issue before was a seven and now the issue is a four now, you might be saying, well that's just semantics it's a lower level for me. It's different issue. Because when it's a four could actually be a different problem that we've solved problem number one, which is. Reduced some of the pain. And now, there's problem number two. That is they're the same thing can happen with a fear. I might be afraid of speaking in public, and that fears at a seven, and we tap on the fact that you're afraid that you're gonna lose your place, and we get that all taken care of another fear of speaking in public is only four because you're comfortable with that. But in that four what is left is your frayed, you're going to be judged. So even though we only had one number of discomfort. It was a couple of issues that were joined together. And if you're still frayed at a four that it doesn't feel like you're making any progress, and you're still dealing with the same issue. So the phenomenon of the new normal makes it really easy for us to miss the progress that we are making it feels like we're dealing with the same issue. The second reason why it can feel like we're dealing with the same issue in. It's very related to the first is how we understand the transformation in relation to the action that we are taking. So this isn't analogy that I have actually been using quite a bit over the course of the last two months with my clients. And so what I want you to imagine is I want you to imagine that you are standing next to a lake on a beach. And the reason why it's a lake is because I don't want you to imagine waves coming in and out, but you're standing at the edge of the water, and there's no waves coming in and out and the water is three inches from your toes. So as you look down you can only move forward three inches before you get wet. And it's kind of like imagine the water being a fear earn issue or something that is holding you back. And so we do a bunch of tapping, and you feel better, and you have more confidence. And as that happens. Imagine that the water is receding away because that fear is getting smaller. But because the fear is getting smaller you take advantage of all of this new land that you get to walk on. So what you do is you walk up to the edge of the water again because you're moving forward because you now have the opportunity to do that. Now from this new position if you look down at your feet, the water is still only three inches away from your feet. So the distance from where you are to where the edge of what is comfortable is still exactly the same. And what you've done is. You have forgotten that you have walked forward. And there's now all of this new land that you can walk on. But because you're trying to move forward. You've pushed yourself to the edge. So again, the fear is still there and it's the same distance from us. So it feels as if we're dealing with the exact same issue because we've lost track of the context of how far we've moved and we're only looking in relation between where we are. And where our struggle is. And so when we do this we mistake the fact that we haven't made progress or the relationship between us and the fear, and hopefully, you are in a circumstance that as you are clearing fears. You're giving yourself the opportunity to move forward. And try new things a perfect way of thinking about this is thinking about speaking in public. So at the beginning, you might be in a situation where speaking in public is not something you are comfortable at all with. And so we do some work and all of a sudden, you feel good enough that when you are at a meeting at work, and there's ten of you sitting around the circle you now feel comfortable enough to speak in public, and you can share your idea, but because your ideas, so good your boss wants you to share it with the whole team. So now, you're in a situation where you have to stand in front of twenty five people. It's not a circle everybody are on the same level. But. You're now standing in front of the group, and you're having to share from that position. And all of a sudden, you're nervous again. So we tap tap tap. And all of a sudden, you are super comfortable presenting in front of twenty five people in the presentation goes, so well, the boss wants you to give the presentation to the entire company, and now you have to speak in front of one hundred twenty five people in once again, you're worried and your frayed. So the entire time over the arc of the story. You're afraid of speaking in public, and so every single time you, and I have together we're tapping on the fact that you're afraid of speaking in public. So it feels as if you're dealing with the exact same issue, but we've had three radically different contexts me sitting around a conference from table with ten people me standing in front of twenty five people me standing in front of one hundred and twenty five people, and because those are different they're actually different issues, but they feel the same. The analogy with the water at her feet. The water is at my feet sitting around a table with ten people we tab, the water recedes, but you walked to the edge of the water. Because now you're speaking in front of twenty five people and so on. And so it's important for us to recognize that even though we name the problem the same speaking in public. It's really different problem. Each time. The third reason why it feels like we keep dealing with the same issue is because in some cases, we actually are dealing with the same issue over and over again. But what we don't realize is redeeming with the issue on a different level. So let's pretend that the issue that we're tapping for is feeling comfortable inside of my own skin around other people. And we tap on this issue, and you feel better. And then as time passes you notice again that you're in comfortable being around these people and being comfortable inside of your own skin. But what you don't realize is before you were uncomfortable with talking about the news of the day. The next level. You're uncomfortable talking about you get comfortable with that. But then you become uncomfortable talking about the work that you do. And then you get through that. And then you worry about talking about your personal life. And so what happens when we're doing that because we're passing through the same issue over and over again, it's like going up a spiral staircase. If you look at someone from above who is walking up a spiral staircase. And you're straight above them. It literally looks like they're walking in a circle they're just going around and around and round. But if you're looking at them from the side, what you do is you see them going up, and what's happening is they're passing through the same spot. So if you imagine on a clock at twelve o'clock, you're walking in the circle around and around and twelve o'clock is that self esteem issue from above it looks like as you walk in the circle you pass through self esteem you pass through self esteem you pass through self esteem. But when we look at it from the side what happens is as you pass through self esteem. You're six feet higher. And then you're six feet higher. And then you're six feet higher. So the issue is the same you standing in a new place. And so you're actually moving forward in this case moving up and making progress, but it's easy to miss that. So the big takeaway from all of this is as we do the transformation process. It's really easy for us to miss the progress for making either because of one the new normal to we keep pushing to the edge only notice the edge or three as we pass through an issue again. And again, we're not recognizing that we're moving up. And it's important to recognize this because if you don't recognize this it's really easy to be discouraged. It's really easy to be overwhelmed. It's really easy to feel as if the tapping and the time that you're investing in this is not working. That's why it's so important when you're working on an issue over time by yourself, or you're working on an issue over time with a practitioner that you were documenting where you're starting. And you're documenting where you're going along the way so that it's really easy to recognize the progress that has happening sometimes the progress is self evident. Sometimes it's like, I couldn't do this thing. And now, I could do it, and we don't need to be doing this. But lots of times, particularly these issues that we're creeping through. It's really easy to miss the change that is happening. And so keeping this in mind before you begin. And documenting and documenting your progress along the way is gonna make a huge difference in getting you to a place where you can see the actual progress is happening, and you're going to be able to celebrate that you're going to be able to build on it. So that is the answer to question number two that I get most from clients, and I get most from readers and listeners just like you. Why do I keep dealing with the same issue over and over again, I would love to hear your thoughts and feedback on that. But this is a little more of a analytical approach to thinking about the problem, and some of the practical tapping that we do so I would love to hear if this sort of information the sort of conversation was useful. If you've questions if you comments I would love to hear from you about this topic or anything else Jean GE in e tapping Q and A dot com is the easiest way to get hold of me. If you're on the website, click the contact link if you're inside of the tapping QNA app, which is free for both. And. Android and apple devices. If you hit the contact link you can Email me directly, I actually received four really nice emails that came right from inside of the app in the last forty eight hours. I love hearing from you. I love hearing those questions it guides the content with the we create here on the podcast. And it gives me the ability to create the things that are going to serve you the best. Make sure you tell friend about tapping CUNY podcast. Like, I said cinematheques message tapping podcast dot com. Send him an Email invite other folks to engage in this conversation because when one of us transforms it creates a better place for all of us for the tapping CUNY podcast. This is Jean mantra, Stella I hope you have a great day. And I will talk to you real soon. Bye. The topic CUNY podcast is copyright, gene. Mantra steadily tapping Q and eight two thousand sixteen all of us expressed by guests are those of the guests and not necessarily of gene mantra steadily or tapping QNA.

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The musical alchemy of Manuel de Falla

Naxos Classical Spotlight

19:58 min | 1 year ago

The musical alchemy of Manuel de Falla

"Hello and welcome to another. NAXOS podcast this time with music by the great Spanish composer manual defy and two of his best known pieces master Peter's puppet show and Ella more brew whole or loved the magician but this one in the original nineteen fifteen version in which the composer poser wanted the vocal part to be sung by a condo order or Flamenco singer and in this performance the color is Esperanza Fernandez one one of the very best flamenco singers anywhere anytime here's a bit more of that opening music from the introduction and opening music to Alamo brew hole all the ooh ooh mm-hmm Ila more blue hole depicts the night journey of Kandal out so young Roma or Gypsy woman on a quest to free herself of the Ghost of her deceased lover. Fi is shimmering orchestral colors here show the influence of the French School Kevin L. and Debussy people like that but the composer also notat's condolonces vocal part with the inflections ornaments typical of a car or a not flamenco singer so that to be done properly it needs to be performed by a flamenco singer in the country. Hondo or deep song style the Spanish poet Garcia Lorca Described County Hondo this way the country Hondo approaches the rhythm of the birds and the natural music think of the black poplar and the waves it simple in oldness and style it is also a rare example of primitive song the oldest of all Europe where the ruins of history the lyrical fragment eaten by the sand appear live like in the first morning of its life here. Here's Esperanza Fernandez with Song of a broken heart on Sunday. Ha but is this Eh one the Buk misanthropic Johnny may no in the history of the Roma is a complicated and painful story. It's believed that the first Roma traveled from northern India to Persia Asia in the tenth century and from there to Armenia Turkey and then through Europe the Roma people often viewed as dangerous intruders because of their itinerant winter wandering ways and their lack of desire to assimilate fully into local cultures so with all that history. It's not really surprising that the nineteen fifteen premiere of Eleanor Brcko was kind of a critical failure reviewers thought the work with its characteristic. Rome rituals of purification was not very Spanish nations while they were right. Here's Espinosa Fernandez Dunster Conseil de la Brea Been Geese Sta dance and Song of the false witch uh-huh well he he he ought they see a lobby see Taliban the at the medicine getting me lemon deal theon MM-HMM EH EH he'll want nose Asada so who knows so yes when how how so It's not only in the composer phya created Eleanor Boudreau is a work with songs and spoken passages and dancing dancing and scored it for a small theater style band of Flute Oboe Karnak French Horn Piano and strings but also elevated FLAMENCO. Oh to the concert stage the story well. It's a common one in Rome focolare. It's of a disembodied spirit remains among the living even after death in the opening scene of Elmore Brouhaha. Kinda lots relates her seora Folk Tale invokes the Virgin Mary and tries to exercise the malevolent malevolent spirit of her deceitful partner by throwing incense and a fire next she goes to witches cave seeking help. She encounters enters a willow the wisp experiences hallucinations and sees the spirit of her dead lover as day breaks to the pealing of church bells. She succeeds in freeing herself from his bonds Uh Don the La Ni uh in elroy Tableau Demise Pedro or master Peter's puppet show fire combined signs his own multi-layered compositional style and mixes in the sounds and dances of Spain's medieval and Golden Ages as well as the rhythms and harmonies of Early Twentieth Century Avant Garde European classical music. It's quite a combination of influences master. Peter's puppet show begins with a somewhat off off-color proclamation that translates this way walk up walk up now. Gentlemen come walkup. Here's the peep show giving you the life of Mela Mela Sentra as good thing as any site in all this wide world Oh God along with US Middle Paul score US lost a worked on master astor Peter's puppet show from late nineteen eighteen until he conducted the concert premiere in Madrid in March of nineteen twenty three three years later in in a Paris Salon Victor Goldschmidt led the first puppet theater performance from the first. The piece was a great success with this piece critics responded responded favorably drawn in by its many references to Spain's Golden Age the incorporation of Cervantes beloved characters like Don Quixote and the eloquent orchestration here is the entry of Charlemagne with clear influences of Medieval Music uh-huh mm-hmm the this album features a whole host of terrific performers too many to mention in any great detail Condor Esperanza Ronza Fernandez is one of today's great performers of Contemporary Flamenco. I've seen her perform live and it is mesmerizing. The album also also featured soprano Jennifer's Ettlin Tenor Jose Gaza Bertone Alfredo Garcia and the new york-based perspectives ensemble all conducted by the Spanish Hanisch born conductor on hill deal or on us. The Perspectives Ensemble was founded at Columbia University nineteen ninety-three by Flu Sato Malian alien who still runs the group they explore works of composers and visual artists in performances and recordings and various kinds of events when settlement conductor unhealthy dealer Dunya. It seems like it was a musical partnership meant to be two explorers kindred spirits in a way all all this you see it's for your enjoyment on naxos album catalogue number eight point five seven three eight nine zero. That's all for this podcast. I'm glad you could join join me. I'm Raymond Boucher so long for now uh-huh Toys R. US on this point uh-huh Hawking Hawk

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New Music Friday: Oct. 19

All Songs Considered

25:31 min | 2 years ago

New Music Friday: Oct. 19

"Support for this podcast and the following message come from internet essentials from Comcast, connecting more than six million low income people to low cost, high speed internet at home. So students are ready for homework class graduation and more now they're ready for anything. Happy Friday, everyone from NPR music and all songs considered. I'm Robyn Hilton. We're doing a quick run through the essential albums out on October nineteenth. We start this week's new music Friday off with l. king and her album shake the spirit. Yes. Shame, shame, shame, shame. So good. This is l. Cain, her new album is shake the spirit, the summer listening to his called shame and Stephen Thompson back again, the sweep of the year. Yeah, l. king young singer songwriter based out of Los Angeles and this is her second album. Yeah. Elkin had the huge couple years twenty fifteen. Her debut album. Love stuff came out. It had this absolutely inescapable single called Xs and os. Even if you're not a person who listens to pop radio, you have probably heard this sign on the wind hundreds of times the next year. She had a big country hit with a duet with Dirks Bentley called different for girls. So you see, she's a pop singer. She's a soul singer. She's a country singer in Americana singer. She's almost has like almost rockabilly field or to revoke. So she's sprawling out across all these different genres. She's become a huge star, and then she had an incredibly difficult year will happen. So she got divorced. She battled depression and drug abuse and used her set. Adam, this album shake the spirit to dig her way out of the problems in her life, and really clearly if you read interviews and stuff connected to the material on this album, very very, very closely and used it as a means of getting better. And when you listen to the album, you get this real mix of swagger which you've heard on songs like Xs knows and catharsis where she's getting more personal. She's digging deeper than she might otherwise have. Doug. I've been endlessly charmed by her from the beginning, but you see her blossoming into something that has the power to have really lasting impact. And when she announced the record, she says, it's all about the year. I lost my f ING mind, and she tried to sum that up in the album name, shake the spirit from l. Elke Stephen, let's stay with you for one more. This is Peter Bjorn and John and their new album is called darker days. It goes. I sure do like music. Stephen. I was just sitting there thinking the same thing. I like the way these notes come together and song form. This song got feeling from the darker days and Peter Bjorn and John. Yeah, I was thinking how they were part of this wave of Swedish pop bands. You know, back in the early two, thousands, they just had these breakthroughs in the states. There was the concretes, the shoutout louds Loney, dear Jose Gonzalez. And here they are now twenty years into their career still making, I think really great. Moody, pop music. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting Peter Buren. John had this point around like two thousand six where it seemed like they were going to be these hit makers and churn out hit after hit after hit. And that hasn't necessarily materialized. They've continued to make records, but they haven't broken through the way that Song Young folks did you know where you with the whistling, the whistling that you could not escape for the entire year of two thousand six, but they've continued to make this Jonty playful, hooky really infectious music. I think if you liked this. Banned in the previous decade. This records a nice place to dive back into the the stream of the music that they've been putting out. I mean, this is their eighth album, and a lot of people only know one, two, maybe three songs by the span and that's on gut feeling is such an earworm. I was walking into the studio and couldn't carve it out of my head. Yeah, you know when they released young folks, I remember thinking, oh no, the it's too good. They're going to spend the rest of their lives chasing that that sound, you know. And I think on darker days, they sing about better appreciating the best moments in life and living without regret, but also how they're kind of sick of the world that they find themselves living in. And and I think that's one of the things that I've always loved about him even going back to a song like young folks, they perfectly walk the line between the light and lightness and the darkness, and that's Peter Bjorn, and John new album darker days. Thank Stephen, thanks, Robin, and from Peter, Bjorn and John. Let's go to phony people and their album mosaic. It's so sad. So that can have. Just because some that. Just be. That been born dumb bulls. Don't know. For Justice to be served from. Fit. Hey, insane. I will. Be bulls. That's from anyway. Spill McColl that on. Mileage. Is this really. To speak to me. So. The band is phony people, and their new album is called mosaic. The summer listening to now is called on everything. I love NPR music Sydney Madden here to talk about this when he's sitting, hey, Robin, for people who are new to phony people, tell us a bit about them and what stands out about this new record? Funny people is a Brooklyn based band. They employ a lot of John rose in creating their own, and they're kind of like a jazzy funky Boston ova hip jam band. And you you talk about all those different sounds coming together. The cut that we played as one of the more somber. Yeah, songs on it. And you know, they do have a lot of the more traditional sort of relationship songs on this record, but they get into some pretty emotional and disturbing topics and issues on on that song on everything I love. Yeah, absolutely. Through the course of the band's career, they've been known to give fans a lot of groovy vibe, type of. Songs about, you know, I love or looking back on the hindsight relationship or just get in the mood of getting into a party atmosphere. But this is definitely their most poignant and pointed song that I think they've ever released and it's telling the tale of police brutality in an unexpected way from a different point of view, it's being told that is of a man who is shot by police in even though he dies, his soul, his spirits sticks around to see the aftermath of the shooting and the effect it has on his family, his friends, the community at large. So the ghost is singing about attending the hearings for the police attending community vigils in like looking to see how he's honored justices ultimately served. Yeah, absolutely. Which I mean from listening to the song you can hear from the story that it won't be in the band is phony people that new album is called mosaic. Thanks city. Thank you. We still have several more albums that we want to talk about for this. New music Friday. But first, let's take a short break and we'll be right back. This message comes from NPR sponsor male. Champ male. Champ does so much more than Email. They've outgrown their name with automation ad campaigns and audience management male Champa could help your business outgrow its name to not just male male. Champ it's new music Friday from all songs considered. I'm Robyn Hilton and we're looking at the best albums out on October nineteenth. And we start the second half of the program off with an album and the song that many of you will immediately recognize. And this is John carpenter with seem to how the wean in LARs scotch joins us to talk about this one. This is an album when it came in LARs. I actually literally put off listening to it just because I knew it would terrify me too much just even here because I knew the song would be on it. Yes, and it's on. It's on this soundtrack actually in a number of different guises. Fascinating enough. I can't watch scary movies. Yeah, don't don't watch this one. I don't want to watch this win their hip law watch because I've recognized how important they are to write culture, whatever. But I just love horror movie soundtracks. Yeah, because they do a lot of things that I like in creepy music or unlike metal, for instance, is just all about tension and how it can just creep up your back. And John carpenter, he is a master of not only making horror movies for for one hundred percent. But also, but also making these incredible soundtracks. So one thing we should mention. The reason we're talking about it is that the whole Halloween film franchise is still up and running and they just released the eleventh film in the series called Halloween, and you know, kinda rejoins the characters forty years after that first film came out and it's really unusual that John carpenter has come back to do the music. Well, in recent years, he has reinvigorated his music career. He'd been focusing mostly I'm making movies and recent years. He has started performing a lot of his classic soundtracks live. I went back through our archives and found an interview that carpenter did with Robert Siegel, twenty fourteen and I thought this summed up perfectly his motorcycle Brandi of how he makes music. He says it causes tension and the audience. They're waiting for something to. Change, and that's what that those little role to active. And the I four that you hear in that the to Hawaii, and that's exactly what it's doing. You're like, when what's it gonna change something to happen. Halloween is the film, and John carpenter is doing the score largely stay with you for one more record. This comes from Neneh cherry singer, cherry and her album broken politics. Shows. Just. Two. Anywhere. Take. Try. This is Neneh. Cherry album is broken politics. This song that we're hearing, it's called natural skin, deep in LARs. Earlier on the show we talk about the new Peter Bjorn and John record and all the amazing artists from Sweden. She's another Swedish singer and songwriter and rapper, and I know this is one of your favorite records of the year. Yeah, she's a musician who knows no bounds. And it's been interesting, especially in the last few records that she's put out that she's almost taken on the mantle for stepdad, Don cherry who started out as Chasma performing with people like Ornette Coleman, but slowly started taking in music from arts. Other parts of the world. For instance, we folk music and is from Africa and other parts of the world and kind of infusing it into his own net has kind of she her last record. The blink project is a much heavier, much darker record, and this one feels light for Ted produced this record, and he has a lot. A different sonic textures throughout, and he's very good at live inning mood, but her lyrics are excavating the last few years of humanity, and she is singing songs about the refugee crisis. She's sing songs about gun control, but mostly she's singing about how to be defiant yet tender the same time. I think there's going to be a lot to come back to on this record and the record is broken politics by a cherry. Thanks LARs. Thanks, Robin, all right up. Next, the singer will them and the Ottoman songs of love and horror. Well, glow. To those do kid laying in midnight close among the wicked picking scabs from off their skin, ruling holy deeply into the ridden. Some those. You remind me of something song that I am and using me back in too much. When I wake when I'm sleeping. Show music, man, and. And everything. This is will Oldham the song called the glory goes from his album songs of love, and horror and powers is here joining us this week as always from national, hey, hey, how you doing? Robbing right? So we're gonna talk about to Albuquerque and both of them feature artists who are reworking in reimagining their own songs and we start with this one from will hold them. Yeah, Ravin wilderness. Someone who's voice and songwriting, I've love forever. People know him best under the name of his alter ego, Bonnie prince, Billy. He's made many albums under that name. He often collaborates with other musicians and has worked in all kinds of different styles and modes. But this is a selection of his songs with just his voice Antar and it's called from throughout his career. So I just really love the way it gets at the essence of what's great about wheel Oldham just that beautiful voice, which I think would have enough. Alie had a place on mainstream radio head had we'll had a different kind of personality and those gorgeous songs which grapple with the essential struggles of life. In fact, songs of Levin hor is a companion album to a new volume of lyrics that's being published wills. I really love how raw the nerves are on this one. You know, like his music has always been so intimate that it's kind of unsettling and you feel that even more intensely on this album. I think, yes, it's rob at. It's also personal. It just feels very human, and that is will Oldham his new album is songs of love and horror. And the other album that we wanna talk about an comes from Yoko Ono it's called warzone. Children. Children. Funky junky. Seat to see. From guy. He. I still. One. The song case you couldn't figure it out is culture power by from her new album award. So and then she obviously doesn't need much of an introduction, but tell us what she's doing on this one and why this is one of the weeks noteworthy releases and no, those secret, which is that you find it sometimes a little hard to get into Yoko singing my right, her voice. Yeah, her voices challenge to me. I mean, mad respect for her, but yeah, I have a hard time getting into revolts. I on the other hand, have always loved Yoko, 's voice and considered her. I was like a patron Saint or been nine divine presence in my life. She's a human being, but I think for many of her fans, you know, she holds a really special place and she is eighty five years old. So she is genuinely an elder genuinely a legend. A lot of the tracks on this album come from a record. She release in the eighties called star piece, which was intended to serve as a kind of an antidote to Ronald Reagan's. Star Wars program at the time and what Yoko considered a threat to the world to the environment. And this record comes at another time when some people feel that they are very intense threats to our world. So I think this is a way that Yoko is entering back into the political conversation, very powerfully by looking at her long career of writing protest songs that are both raw and you know, hopeful innocent yet completely direct, and there is true protests in fear and grief on this album alongside that beautiful Yoko Ono positively that I love so much, and that album is warzone from Yoko. Ono. Thanks Sam. Thank you, Robin, we've got one more album to talk about for this week show. It comes from Esperanza Spalding and it's called twelve little spells. I can tell you what. If that enough. Just enough love. Dot com. Power. In your. Let's see. If you announce this favors me. I mean. Esperanza Spalding is the artists are new album is twelve little spells in the sun. We're hearing this called with others in nature and joining us again from WB geo pay, Robin Esperanza, Spaulding, no stranger to experimenting with the whole creative process. What she doing with twelve little spells. Well, you know the last time she made an album exposure. It was a seventy seven hour marathon in the studio with the whole world invited to sort of peak in. And so this time she's not experimenting with the process of creating. She's experimenting with the method of distribution. So this album is called twelve little spells, and she has been releasing one song via Instagram and Facebook video every day for twelve days up until today when the full album is released and at twelve twelve pm. Exactly, exactly right. People have been tuning in at twelve twelve eastern standard time. And so- numerology has often been something. S. bronze likes to utilize in her work. And I think in this case, you know, she's ascribing kind of mystical quality to the number twelve which has all kinds of religious connotations and spiritual connotations. She calls these songs song, hyphen spells. And so she's playing with this idea of magic and then lyrically. She's, she's also sort of accessing ideas about Chee and reflexologist and the way that energy moves through the body and the miracle of the human body and also sort of more mystical ideas about energy. It's very sort of high minded and yet also often very grounded. I think the word magic is sort of a a great shorthand for this entire record. Absolutely. I mean, it's pure imagination, and it's also incredibly tactile, and the artist is sprints Spalding. Her new record, twelve little spells. Thanks so much. Nate. Thanks. Robin, a reminder to tell your friends about the program and follow me on Twitter at NPR. OB I n. To see a list of the albums. We talked about check out the podcast description for this episode. You can also go to NPR dot org, slash all songs. You can hear full versions of the songs we featured from these records and a whole lot of other great releases in the new music Friday playlist from NPR music go to NPR dot org slash Spotify or open the Spotify app and search for NPR music. And for NPR music, I'm Robyn Hilton be well have a great weekend and treat yourself to lots of great music. Support for NPR in the following message come from circus oh, Soleil. Crystal, a frozen playground of world-class ice skating and stunning acrobatics. See it live at Capital One arena from December. Fifth to ninth tickets available now at circus oh, laid dot com.

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Esperanza Spalding has conjured up '12 Little Spells'

The Frame

25:44 min | 2 years ago

Esperanza Spalding has conjured up '12 Little Spells'

"From the mound broadcast centers KPCC. This is the frame. I'm Steven Cuevas sitting in for John horn on today's show the FOX network must decide whether to renew empire for another season. And if they do whether to bring back actor Jesse small, and then as bronzes Spaulding is a four time Grammy winner who's worked with jazz legends and performed at the White House. But she didn't choose her instrument to seek out the spotlight. I loved to be the basement. I love it when it's not my gig. I love it. When is not news. I love it. When all I have to do is just like hold it down all that coming up on the frame. Welcome to the frame. I'm Steven Cuevas filling in today for John Horne. So there's still a lot. We don't know about why actor Jesse small. It was cleared of all charges in bizarre criminal case involving alleged hate crime. Here's a little of what small it had to say yesterday to reporters. Now, I'd like nothing more than to just get back to work and move on with my life. But make no mistake. I will always continue to fight for Justice equality and betterment of marginalized people everywhere. So again, thank you for all the support banking for faith. And thank you to God was small as he claims the victim of a crime or the mastermind a hoax says Cook County police still insist we also don't know if he'll resume his role as Jamal lion in the FOX series empire. Or whether the show will even be renewed for a six season to help us unpack with this all means for the show, and for FOX, we called varieties will Thorne who wrote about the hard decisions that now face the network and empires creative team they're in a bit of a sticky situation right now because on the one hand, they could just, you know, welcome back to the. Show with open arms and that full believe the news coming out of smell come from his lawyer from his family, which is he's been competing. Kona rated and that that case closed and he can move on with his life with career. But the problem that FOX TV has the authority, namely, the Cook County state's attorney's office even America cargo and Chicago PD all saying that he's guilty. Basically the things they dropped the charges, partly because if he's community service, and partly because of the ten thousand dollar bond, which agreed to pay to the city of Chicago. So FOX's in situation. Because who do they believe that? I mean, the best policy would probably be to weights. I would say wait until more facts about the case of come out. Well, but how long can they wait? I mean, I would imagine there's some amount of pressure on FOX the empire team to make a decision soon on the fate of Jesse small et in his role in empire. Absolutely. There's a lot of pressure from, you know, from the court of public opinion. But from you'll start you figure who discussing it and from the fifth man statement industry like devante. Among others who've come out calling out the way that she called the PD handled the case and the ways that some of that has sort of been vilified in the media. But I mean, I'm bought hasn't been renewed for season six technically yet, but runs to be highly likely, given how the show is in the cultural zeitgeist and giving how big the show is for folks. But in theory, they really should proceed quickly. But then what do they do what they're in this situation where that I'm doing down if they don't really so I mean, I would say that waiting is probably the only option that they do have an, of course, he an essential character on the show, but they ready wrote the amounts of the final episodes of season five so they could just ride him out of central season six as well that doesn't seem to be a huge set for them. But then if they do that, then that could lead to huge backlash on social media with people who you know, defending and criticizing the way the case has been handled liberal without giving anything away. Do we have any idea how the writing team dealt with the absence of Jesse small it's character in empire? Well for the for the loss to episodes. They just kind of sidetracked his. Character and historian line is pretty essential to the line family of role. And he's one of the mainstays of the of the line firmly on empire, but really sick. They could get rid of him and write him out and the show would probably survived pretty well afterwards in the short term will is it possible to measure the impact on empires Raitis, and since the initial incident and subsequent scandal broke. Well, the last two episodes of empire over to that Ed since the whole fashionable have been to the lowest rate in the show history. They previous episode was the lowest rated episode in empires five season runs. So you can take that as an indication the people shooting out from the show because of the smell fat. Although on the other hand, you could argue that these represents the midseason premiere episode subsequent to that. So ratings of probably going to be lower around that time anyway, but historically, this those and give us a sense of what the response has been from empire creator and show runner Lee Daniels and the creative team at large since the charges were dropped yesterday. In terms of the empire teams, most vocal response responses been from just east coast around you Henson who said it was such a relief that the truth and finally come out, and that she was celebrating this sort of Joyce victory taking the smell camps and of line. This was that, you know, he's vindicated that that's it. You know, he's he's been exonerated in some of create this show that hasn't been much comment. The dials released a video and his Instagram a few days ago, these ailing precise these sort of how from the whole experience have been for him and for the other crates on the show for the cost and crew. And so, you know, the statement from the Chicago marriage the police department, it would seem this affairs probably fall over and people are still going to be taking into exactly what happened in the of January twenty nights for quite some time. I think FOX will likely wait until this season is wrapped up before deciding whether or not to renew the series, and then there's this complication that the network. No longer owns the production company that launched empire. It went to Disney as part of this this massive sale. So what happens if FOX? News the series, but Disney no longer wants to produce it about another possible adventure, you know twentieth. Century tea now belong to Disney and the company that makes Disney, and of course, the Disney who historically of family friendly property trying to avoid as much scandal as possible in that TV shows, you know, and then that what history with ABC, you could see the possibility that if there's the fast Mobile's even more into larger proportions. Even those folks the network would likely want the show to be renewed pretty strongly for sixties, and you could see the post venture where Disney say, no, this is this is too controversial for us is against our company's values at cetera. And they they might they might pull the plug. You could see that happening as I'm curious about the fans of empire and what we're hearing from them since yesterday and. This is such an unknown. But how might they fall down on this? If he is either cut from the show or stays on the show for the most people standing behind him radio fan of the show, especially I mean, if you take a defendant Cummins, she has self is a big fan of the show in his hinted at the check in history of the Chicago police department dealing with these launch cases meeting with hate crimes and being racial issues in the pause. And so I I've seen a lot of fans of empire take root on social media and be skeptical of you know, anything that the authorities, especially the Chicago police department of saying about this. I think regardless whether smell characters is cut out of the show. They will continue to support the show. I think if he is cut out that will be a backlash with certain extent. But then given that he's he's he's a big part of the show, but he's not entirely essential in the line family will probably still be on screen off to. I don't see it being a huge deal for them. Wilson writes about television for variety will thanks so much. Thanks so much. Even. Coming up on the frame as barons Spalding explores the healing power of music on her latest record. This is the frame. I'm Steven Cuevas. John horn is away today. Thanks for joining us when Grammy winning musician and composer bronzes Spalding dropped by the frame studio last week. She wore her trademark white jumpsuit emblazoned giant black letters with the words lifeforce, and as you'll hear pretty good description for who she is as a musician, and as a person Spalding bassist singer and a Harvard professor her music typically gets filed under jazz. But she also adds elements of hip, hop earn be even hints of prog rock, she challenges herself and her audience and other ways to her twenty seventeen album exposure was written and recorded in seventy seven hours and was live streamed on Facebook, Spalding latest twelve little spells is a collection of twelve songs each corresponding to a different body part when she joined me in studio, we started with what inspired the album's concept tooth fully. I don't know how the idea came up like many. Ideas. I've had for projects it kinda like blanket enters the imagination all at once. I heard I thought of the name to a little spells the all yet they'll be spelled that Halligan affect on the body part. That's the that's the theme is the concept when the inspiration came. I didn't know what it was from. I just thought that's what I wanted to do. And then looking back and being asked that question a lot I realize that actually it was probably the fruit of just absorbing Aleta information about the relationship between music and healing in our nervous system and emotional trauma, psychological. Trauma, and sort of my own process of realizing that I am I'm really passionate about studying the field if it's a field of performing arts as a public health, and it was kind of an aha moment when I realized that there there is a lot of literature and research already about how what I do. Do can know with intention in practice have measurable measurable, according to science effects on our bodies on anatomical experience of the world. There was a lot that went into this project. And I feel like it's it's been like a pivot point for me in an opening into like the next level. I guess of my adventure. Love it. Well, let's hear something from twelve little spells. This is mouth which is presented with the song to Titus over. So as Peron's were listening to that you're kind of swaying back and forth, and your eyes are closed. Remembering how amazing it felt when I first heard that beat that just enticing created. This was a very collaborative project in terms of how each spells together. And I live in Italy a artist residency Hallelujah. I never understood those before. But now, I totally get what they're for like why you wanna step away from your life to make art art happens in the here and now, and then I was like, oh, wow. I get it. I get what space can do for Gration anyway. And he's sent he sent that track. And it was just a track didn't have a melody. I asked if he could you know, what what came up for him. When these thinking about the mouth, and what this spell is intended to do for the mouth and for us mouth Havers. And I I'm just remembering that that moment. When when I first hit the hit play. And I was like damn this is like this is in their slow in there. And it's a little dis- jointed. Like, it's stagger. The beat itself they actually just in four. There's nothing really tricky about it. But you you hear a sort of like staggering slightly jolted thing. Part of the idea with this song and the intended effect of the spell mouth is the power of just communicating and letting out what's in you, you know, in sometimes by the process of just starting to speak, it, we discover more than we knew we knew, you know, and we start to feel more than we knew we felt you were partly inspired in making this record by the practice of Rakia, which is a Japanese metaphysical healing practice and involving the hands could you elaborate a little bit for those who don't know what it is. I think historians of Rakia would say that like the word rake is Japanese and the Pri the practitioner that really brought it into this era. A rediscovered it and like made away until it in this era was a Japanese man, but the healing practice healing art that the word Rakia describes is much older than Japan as a nation. It's much older than than it's like rediscovery point. Studies have shown that it does regulate your heart. It lowers your blood pressure and releases tension it relieves tension in hypertension. So those are like some things at the time, but the same way that maybe thousand years ago, nobody could could show what music was physically doing in your cochlea. Nobody could show you improve that this over here has traveled through sound waves and has made a little bone vibrate. A little drum that then turns a sack of fluid into electrical currents, and after it leaves your cochlea. It's just electric trysofi running through your brain. But you perceive it as a sound. And if I do it in rhythm, you're gonna fruit as a beat. And if I move some more air with my vocal chords, you'll start hearing some thing, and I can even do things to make you hear a harmonic progression. What really matters though, is that you experience it. I can't disc-. -cribe to you. What music is right. What it feels like to live music? And I think Rakia is similar. It's an experiential art. And I was fortunate to have some really heavy duty Ricky experiences come from Oregon. I feel like I have sort of a natural aversion to what I call. Woo things. Because I am such a scientist that heart. I want the empirical data I don't want you to tell me it's a feeling like I wanna know what's happening in my body that being said I had some heavy duty experiences. And I don't do drugs of Tylenol sometimes in caffeine. Anyway, I have a deep experiences that defied my ability to explain them away. Could you describe I don't think so they didn't even happen at like a describable level? I guess I was seeing things in. It was this a lot of sensations that were very visceral intangible in and I didn't like I was being manipulated. Like, I didn't feel like I was within an allusion. So I think that's the most that I feel qualified to say because I've only been doing Ricky for a little over a year studying it deeply though, and I have three great teachers three eight grades and I practice it regularly. And I think one day they'll be more. Santic data around what it does. But I guess the same way that music came to me came into my life. When I heard it. I knew that it was for me in that. I was for it. And I had that experience Ray rake, it was like an undeniable experience that I can't necessarily explain, but I knew that there was something to be developed. There will these seems that you you touched on a little bit in this commencement speech. You gave school music last year about about music as as a spiritual force a healing force. And I wanna play a little clip from that speech. And then we can talk about the thing we're dealing in the capital that we exchange when we give a concert or have a therapy session is the one thing that can't be explained. So I just want to remind you to make room for spirit make room for the truth. And remember that you all the children vessels this time around. And that's how serious it is. And. Also have fun. Congratulations. That's my guest. Esperanza Spalding who's laughing at me right now. Eleven emmy. Yeah. Tell me about that. Maybe not commencement Berkeley school. Oh god. Yeah. They I was asked to give a commencement speech. And I didn't wanna do it. I just was nervous. The asked to do that. I feel like many times because I'm I check a lot of boxes for some major institutions as a woman of color, and I should say you your graduate of aggravated. And that day I was getting my honorary doctorate from Berkeley to which is not good for anything in the world. But other than I don't know. I have a cool hat, but and I felt like y'all gonna ask me to do that like that looks good on paper. But I don't know that I have what the students need, you know. But then that translated later is like, oh, you're just being a wimp. So I said, yes. And then I kinda decided that if they asked me to do a head to come as me ahead to go. Do what I do for these young people, which is. Is my belief in this in this? I guess system of engaging with the world, which some people call Dez people improvisation. But essentially, it's it's showing up in the present trusting everything that you've practice which includes everything that you've lived studied learned failed that one at its trusting your practice and responding in real time with actually happening. So like that probably is not the best beach I've ever given. But that's not the point to me. It's still better than coming canned. And I'm not good at that. Anyway. So it's like playing to my strengths and also trying to model for the students and option of how you can engage with the world around you. Coming up on the frame more with musician and singer as Baronne Spalding. Welcome back to the frame. I'm Steven Cuevas in today for John horn and out back to my conversation with composer singer and bassist Esperanza Spalding. We've been talking about her latest album twelve little spells project inspired by an alternative healing technique called Rakia after her twenty twelve album radio music society, Spalding music, took a turn away from more traditional modern, jazz, and Neil soul into more experimental territory. There were other big changes to I fire my manager. And I left my agent, and I was a side person for a while. And I was just studying in a head to go back to square one of all the things that made me wanna do this stuff in the first place, which is like listening figuring out in writing stuff and playing with people and all those things that are really nourishing and felt like the way my quote unquote career was going. There was the least time for that stuff. To me is the stuff that makes me wanna do it in the first place not to go do shows. So that's what those two years were in. And in those two years. I remember I was on a gig with Jerry alum rest, her soul, and Terri Lynne Carrington we were in Austin. And it like hit me like again those like hoots of inspiration in the middle of the night. I just like heard this character, and I'm Sawyer, and I felt her and I heard the music I heard the sound instrumentation. That was like, oh, okay. There's like there's some music -rupt ding, the first Elms good lava. There's like some in here that I just need. Now. It's time to let it out talking about the character. Emily. Yeah. Emily's plus of Aleutian this. See this. Watch this. Good love from Emily's deep plus evolution. That's a marked change from where you were like in twenty twelve twin that. Let me sixteen that's outside. Yeah. I mean from where I sit which only I know what where that is. It was very logical. It was just like letting out more of the of the nest that is my musical DNA. I guess, but there was so much invested in advertising and promoting the as a jazz musician that I can see why from another outside perspective that seem like a market shift. But you know, I don't keep track of how many times people are signifying me as a jazz musician. I can't keep track of that my managing agent. And just promoted the time saw like an angle, I get it. It's just it feels diminishing sometimes. So where where do they put you in record stores? These days are still in existence. Probably does you started playing music at a very young age and. And picked up a number of different instruments eventually settling on upright bass early on. What was it about that instrument that really spoke to you? I think that for me personally that instrument is like is healing to me in the function of the instrument does the band feels really good from personality type in the way that I like to be in general, I also said into feel like this is going to a little I don't know. It's the it's like the mother of the band. I I struggled with my relationship with my mother and in the dynamic of being in the on fumble where you stand you're standing next to like, the parents of the band is the drums and the bass, piano. You're the rhythm section. What does that mean? It means you're the constant. That's just there the everybody leans back into while. They like explore space and try and fail and go into this. And you're just as like steady. Eighty constant and you're responding. But you're also you're keeping everything going and the horn players of the frontline players it only works because they trust that you're holding down. And I think for me because my home life was very chaotic that role felt really good to me. All I had to do. I know I know that like this. This feels good to me. I'm just boom, boom, boom. I'm the ground. I'm the ground it solid. I don't have to do anything. I don't want my solo can be coordinated marking the time or I can lay out and let y'all do all the goal all over the place the craziness. But really like I said after many many years of one weather hell, I chose this instrument. I think it's the sound first and foremost in his the function I love that function. I love to be the base level when it's not my gig. I love it. When it's not my music. I love it. When all have to do is just like hold it. Down. I love that. I love it. It's very nourishing. And it's a nice relief from all the leg of being the front wall to to close out Speranza. I'd like to put you on the spot and make you be the the DJ. Can you can choose a song from spells to close this out and say a little something about it? I would like to do the legs which is called reading to rise. The intended effect of this spell is to remember how everything you've been through is accumulated in your life. And sometimes when we're working towards a goal, and it seems like we're not there yet. So easy to forget progress that we've made because we can't help it because we're living in it's a cumulative by nature, and I thought wouldn't it be fun? If you could get a report like a map of everywhere your legs had been 'cause they remember every step you took. And every time you sat and every time you walk. No time you stood and every time you walk with someone like they have the full account of everything ever done. You know, you get from here to there by taking steps in your legs mill that. Just. Esperanza spalding. Her latest record is twelve little spells. Thank you for coming by. Thank you. Pleasant. As Berendt Spalding perform on April twenty-seventh at the Ford amphitheatre as part of a coretec that includes legendary drummer Jack DJ net, and that's the show for today. Remember to follow us on Facebook and Twitter, you'll find us at the frame, thanks for listening. I'm Steven Cuevas seat tomorrow.

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The Trump Administrations Plan to Deport Victims of Human Trafficking

The New Yorker Radio Hour

27:59 min | 1 year ago

The Trump Administrations Plan to Deport Victims of Human Trafficking

"The New Yorker radio hour supported by indeed dot com. Are you hiring with indeed? You can post a job in minutes. Set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard. Get started today at indeed dot com slash New Yorker. That's indeed dot com slash New Yorker. The New Yorker radio hour is supported by the Capital, One saver card earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment. Two percent at grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. Now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply. The one World Trade Center in Manhattan. This is the New Yorker radio out a co production of the New Yorker and WNYC studios. Welcome to the New Yorker radio hour. I'm David Ramnik. One of the very few human rights issues that the Trump administration has shown an interest in is the issue of human trafficking. The president has argued that building a wall, though wall would prevent kidnappers from taking people by force over the border, which is kind of a Hollywood version of trafficking, that in fact is very rare and yet some of the policies the Trump administration has put in place have made it harder not easier for victims of human trafficking to seek help. That's according to Jennifer jetski who's been reporting for the New Yorker and for the fuller project about trafficking. Now. Jenna, you've written in-depth about something called a T V's, which most of us probably aren't familiar with. So what is that? A TV says a specific kind of humanitarian visa for victims of human trafficking in the US, who are not US citizens, and what it does is offer them a way to stay in the country legally it. Offers them a path to citizenship, and it gives them away to have family members from their home country possibly join them in the US and it's different from something like a refugee visa. The TV's are really recognizes the unique circumstances that a non-citizen victim of trafficking might have in, in the US surf, for instance, it recognizes that a victim of trafficking may have been forced to commit crimes while they were being trafficked often related to their trafficking like prostitution for instance and gives them away to be pardoned. By the government for those crimes. TV's though is intended for people precisely like this woman, I met recently. A couple of months ago, I went to Washington C just outside of the city in one of these news, sort of booming suburbs, splc after block of office building and shops. Forget, which for, and there to meet someone I'm going to call us bronze, we met in a small office. She was with her translator and her lawyer. And I just wanted to hear her story me nominate is as bonanza oil Manama chose to start going to status. Eat them being Kikonyogo got us bronze a is now in her thirties. The childhood, she described in a small town in Latin America was poor but happy, she had a big family. They worked in agriculture she had to start working when she was quite young when she was eighteen she was approached by man on the street who she described as being wealthy looking he was well dressed. He said nice things to her. He flirted with her local Nasional moment. Komo. I met him like how you just meet people along the way in a store, or someplace you just meet people by chance. And so we started getting to know each other we started talking Sempe say say, I blow she was not really taken with him. And they started dating after a little while she moved with him to his hometown, along with her two young daughters who she'd had from previous relationship immediately things started to change when they got to his hometown. He said that he didn't have enough money in that because he had spent so much money on her. It was now her turn to help make ends meet. She assumed that it was going to be working in a restaurant or agriculture and things like that. But he took her to a hotel, and he said, this is where you're going to be working, and that was her first experience being forced into prostitution, Glendow Jagai. Yeltsin your miss Blake oil when you're when I got there, the hotel owner explain what I actually had to do many. I, Don a they gave me room lie to give me towels. Call me give me oklaho- in as a memento Janos have yet, Kedar real mental preservative will own Condie really even know what a condom was casinos glycine Tecom. She stayed in that situation for a few months, and then her trafficker cream to her and said, if you go to the US, you'll make more money. She had never considered moving to the US, and the idea of it was terrifying to her not just because it was a foreign country. But because she had children, her children were one of the ways that her trafficker controlled her. He would withhold them from her and till she made a certain amount of money. He knew that she was worried about their wellbeing. He knew that she wanted to see them. And so he used both of those facts to, to keep her doing what he wanted her to do. Sun. But I'm alot Llamas prosciutto some Pammy in for me. They're the most precious thing there. What sustains also stand. Maybe that's on a s on KOMO this girl's are like the Canaan my hand that prevents me from falling west on in memento, paranoia Cairo. Cairo. Clearly, you are not able to take them with you, when you were forced to come to the United States by trafficker. Nope. Nope, with right. I may see us. I couldn't bring my girls with me, because it was part of the plan in what way L plunder area. Some plunder Janice, at blend the leper king Mithra is part of the plan of then man who was bringing me here. Did you get to say goodbye to them? The real opportunity donors, mantis the, this believed my chance one week before I left to say goodbye loans, kill us missile credible. Kimmy last time I saw them. I remember my daughter said to me, put a cow without no buses must book on south Roth mom, why don't you spend time with us anymore? No super careful. I didn't what to say Salata Kevi kicked last time. Our in just remember. I told them I love them looking for a passer in west beat us target them. Target parental bubble. Where can yes. No matter what happened. I would come back to them sooner or later, ESPN Muslim doesn't know what can we would be together again? He may be thinking that as Brown's story, sounds really familiar, and that's because many, many people are trafficked in the US every year are sex, traffic and others are labor. Trafficked, some our citizens and some are not some crossed the border on foot. Others come in through legal ports of entry. Since trafficking is notoriously under reported. It's virtually impossible for us to know how many people are being trafficked in the US, but in two thousand congress came together and passed a bipartisan piece of legislation called the victims of trafficking in violence Protection, Act, otherwise known as the TV, P PA, and that was really important because what they were saying is we don't know the scope of trafficking in the US, but we know it's a huge problem and we want to help survivors, one of the most important thing. Legislation led to was the TV saw Martina Vandenberg is the founder and president of the human trafficking legal center. And with someone who really pushed for the TV PA of the time it was being drafted. It was a coming together of experts from across the spectrum people expert in domestic violence, people expert in migration, people expert in human rights people who had been serving trafficking victims, although they ward called that then what were they called? You know they were called victims of victims of servitude or victims of involuntary servitude. It was the sort of crime that had no name really, because trafficking at that point, people thought trafficking was something that happened in Nepal. It didn't happen here. Right. That was some foreign problem. That happened in Thailand. Not in Los Angeles. Al- trafficking, victims are in really perilous tuition, but there are certain unique things unique dangers to non-citizen victims. The TV's are recognized that they're in a foreign country. Maybe they don't speak the language. Maybe they don't know anyone they might be at risk of being arrested for crimes that they're forced to commit because of their trafficking. Maybe they don't have proper documentation, and that gives their trafficker in incredible amount of leverage. If it trafficker says to someone they're holding enforced labor force prostitution. You have no passport you have. No visa they're looking for you. The police are my friends if you go and ask someone for help, you'll be stuck in detention for months, and ultimately, you'll be deported. So much better says the trafficker for you to stay with me and continue this life, then for you to go. Oh out on the street with no documentation, and get deported. Esperanza crosses the border with smuggler hired by her trafficker. This is inter two thousand six that she finds herself in the situation. She ends up in Queens, New York and just a warning, what we're going to hear is really difficult. It involves details of bronzes day-today life being trafficked. So if you're listening with children, you may want to take that into account. In queens, bronzes traffickers have her living in an apartment. Done. The yes tab. I. Total canonical journal piece. Oh, I was in a room with a mattress on the floor. I those KOMO KOMO those people the, the robot who two types of work, and about the men. Those one where they have you working in apartment in Goss in the other one, where it's like the liver jobs. Mostly is thunder in the pizza Kameda. I keep their delivering pizza or food to a call by phone, and then we'll be taken to the addresses. They gave. How many clients on average which you see a day when the via KOMO KOMO Cuando nutty in the Noyon from honestly day like when no many clients and through store? L minimal. That was the minimum was maybe twenty five thirty five client. They seen being seen twenty five to thirty five. That's an incredible. Number one. Listen. The can I say casino. Other is always look on a day when there's almost no work living. That is what it is seen Gopal Cuando dollars Diaz on the when the days are busy fastened Mazdas in Quinta sent. Sometimes it's more than fifty. Sixty seventy on weekends. It's, it's all day long is still DEA. Wow. So thirty five is in average. So the post. Okay. She wants to take a break. Okay. Okay. Of course. 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Her trafficker has hold her time and time again that if she tries to escape, she'll be arrested for prostitution. She doesn't have any money. She doesn't have any food. And of course, she's thinking about her kids. And if she escapes, will the traffic or hurt them. So she goes back to the apartment and tells her traffickers that she got lost. And that's why she's late. When Goss Janka of we so given all of that, one of the most surprising things about us, bras story is that she managed to escape and the one night, she was coming home and something was wrong with her Kishi struggling to get into her apartment building nano put in threat. And tho- says. As she's trying to get in. She's a man, coming up to her coming on though, but he forces her to a nearby park where he rapes her. I was so successful than me is not. She ends up getting pregnant by the attack and her traffickers, so enraged, he beats her and takes anything that she owns out of the apartment, leaving her nothing. And I think in that moment with nothing, having just been subjected to whole other level of trauma. She leaves she walks out. S Brown's and makes her way down to DC where traffickers would send her to work. Sometimes she meets a man and she gets pregnant again, and even though she doesn't stay with him. She has the baby. She also goes to a local church where she makes them friends and in a real turning point, one of her friends helps her get a job as nanny got magnetic. Okay. Kick we that lessening. Yeah. Say yet you gotta may never imagined. She would pay me to take care of kids, the o Santos, identify Cinco last, those niggers week. She gave me a hundred and seventy five dollars for the two girls. Then to for me to, to other mums with kids, just like that her life starts to open up in this incredible way. Yes. He that's lent. A seem sally-anne though. They, they that, that's high was able to leave everything that I wanna in cion. No, I work in construction set indicates that I'm learning lexical work. I'm soon learning my numbers because I didn't go to school. That's still hard for me. Which how she gets referred to a social services center in DC called Yuda, and there, she meets a lawyer who tells her about this special kind of visa for trafficking victims called a TV, so which will help her stay in the country and help her bring her kids over. She first comes to a unit she doesn't sixteen and two thousand sixteen of course, is also the year that Donald Trump is elected president. So the rhetoric around immigration immediately starts to change. You wouldn't believe these people. People. These are animals, and we'd take the Trump administration publicly condemns trafficking, and they claim to have made it a cornerstone, human rights issue of their administration. Human traffic in his disaster. Nobody knew too much about it until women are tied up there bound duct tape put around their faces around them out in many cases. They can't even breathe trumpetings it up all the time and speeches his daughter, Ivanka wrote an op Ed for the Washington Post about trafficking. But the way Trump talks about it, it fundamentally misrepresents trafficking, actually looks like on the ground and the policies that he's passing like ramping up deportations, like making it harder for people to get asylum, or really just making it that much more difficult for victims of trafficking to leave their trafficking situation and stay safely in the US and not long, after he's elected, the people who actually work on TV's cases, star. To notice changes in the process. Here's Martina Vandenberg, again, the Trump administration started making changes that seemed small seemed like tinkering around the edges if you don't do TV's applications. If you're not dealing with these particular clients, you might not even notice. Kitty Flannery is s bronzes lawyer Yuda. And when I meet them, she starts explaining the whole process for applying for TV set. The first one this is the application for the TV's itself. It is ten pages long Keady explains that one of the forms were clients often have to submit with TV, so has a fee of about a thousand dollars to file in the past, the government has usually weaved that fee. But under Trump things have started change USCIS determined that there was insufficient evidence of her inability to pay. I mean, did this come as a shock to no, no? I mean two years ago, it would have. But basically every fee waiver that we submit against denied. It's not clear to me that anyone is really even looking at them, interesting. So when it comes to evidence for getting the visa so the standard for a TV is any credible evidence that is US CIS is standard of what is required. So they will consider anything, right? And so it's kind of saying, we. We believe that. Katie told me is that the government started sending up locations back asking for more evidence at the person had been trafficked, and you can imagine how absurd an impossible that is for most victims of trafficking, who just simply don't have seats or leases on apartments tax returns. What kind of evidence were the expecting where you just really wouldn't expect there to be a paper trail, but probably the biggest change in the TV's process involves something called an N ta if you're not involved in immigration law, you've probably never heard of it stands for a notice to appear. And basically, if you get an TA it means you have to appear, an immigration court in November two thousand eighteen the Trump administration announced that if you apply for TVs, and you're denied you may end up in immigration. Court. Here's Martina Vandenberg, again, in the past, what I could say is, if we lose, there's no downside because if we lose the government doesn't go after people, nobody's going to deport you, you're back in that same limbo that you were before, right? You're still in limbo. The change in the middle of twenty teen said any denial. You get deportation notice. I have not filed a TV's applications since November of two thousand eighteen. So while the administration has claimed to make trafficking priority. It has made these changes that make it much harder for victims to come forward. Not only is that cruel to the victims, but it makes it much more difficult for law enforcement to pursue to investigate to prosecute these cases. I talked with a guy named Greg Delgada, a former special agent with homeland security investigations, Harry doing Greg sorry to keep you waiting. He worked on a trafficking task force for years before he retired in two thousand seventeen and here's how he put it if you think about a drug crime. And, and you say you're, you're driving down the street. And there's a kilo cocaine in the trunk and you get stopped, and they run a dog around the car. That's that your evidence right? There's is at kilo now put that over on the on either on the sexual labor trafficking side and your driving down the street and you have a fifteen year old girl in the car, or you have to seventeen year old males from Guatemala who, who are working at some eg farm, and you're, you're putting him in horrid conditions if they get stopped by law enforcement, and, and they won't talk to law enforcement, as far as their predicament, what's happening to them. You have no case for me as a as a as a as an investigator. But as a person. To know that. Okay. At the end of the at the end of the tunnel somebody on the other side mail to me, sit and say, okay, I don't, I don't believe your story or your story doesn't carry enough weight. And then issue them ta I think, is it doesn't make for. For good roadmap to be able to do a criminal case. The TV's data for Trump's first full year in office was recently released the numbers show that the approval rate has been cut in half. So now about thirty five percent of the applications or being approved the wait times have nearly tripled the used to be under year. A no. The are approaching three years and really importantly, federal prosecutions are down about twenty percent. They're shooting themselves in the foot. Here's Martina Vandenberg again, if what they care about is trafficking prosecutions, if what they care about is putting traffickers in prison, which is what they say they care about. There prosecutions are going down, and we'll go down further because trafficking victims under these circumstances can't actually cooperate. S Brown's is application is in. She knows that if she denied she might be forced to show up an immigration court. But it's a risk that she feels like she has to take she has kids in both countries in the US and back home. She can't go back. She's terrified that if she does she'll be at risk of violence from her traffickers, but her older kids are still there right now there with her family. They're safe. But she's worried about their future. She's worried. They're vulnerable to the same things that she was full normal to. She's desperate to get them to the US. Love is they if. No, I meant the KOMO. Onawa either. But I me. TV's means and you live for me, not only that, but on me and you tune ity for me lobby sat the but I'm yes, it as governor movie that k if the it, let's me recover the life, I lost enough. Complete with my whole family Cuando. This is the moment. Lipa via the committee nights half added to do this. I have gone to give me wisdom to strengthen needed to make a decision. A big decision only they'd be giving me the chance to live many times, more chess Bessis from everything that's happened. I don't even know how many films I could make. There is so much as me. This isn't even one quarter of my story of my life, and they let quad at that, at the may study other maybe them. the voice of Saudi of translating for the woman, we're calling Esperanza Jennifer jetski is journalist for the fuller project, which reports on issues that impact women globally contributes to the New Yorkers. Well. the New Yorker radio hour co-production of WNYC studios and the New Yorker. Our theme music was composed, and performed by Merrill, garb of tune yards with additional music by Lexus, Quadra. This episode was produced by Alex, Barron. Emily Boutin Alec Rio Rian Corby. Jill Dubov, Karen Filmon cola. 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The Trump Administrations Plan to Deport Victims of Human Trafficking

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The Trump Administrations Plan to Deport Victims of Human Trafficking

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The New Yorkers, Jennifer jetski explores the United States, T visa program, the TV's on offer certain immigration rights to victims of human trafficking, but changes to the program threatened to make it less effective, and may make the problem of human trafficking even worse. One of the very few human rights issues that the Trump administration has shown an interest in is the issue of human trafficking. The president has argued that building a wall, though wall would prevent kidnappers from taking people by force over the border, which is kind of a Hollywood version of trafficking, that in fact is very rare. And yet some of the policies that Trump administration has put in place have made it harder not easier for victims of human trafficking to seek help. That's according to Jennifer, Jesse who's been reporting for the New Yorker and for the fuller project about trafficking. Now. Jenna, you've written in-depth about something called a T V's, which most of us probably aren't familiar with. So what is that? A TV says a specific kind of humanitarian visa for victims of human trafficking in the US, who are not US citizens, and what it does is offer them a way to stay in the country legally it. Offers them path to citizenship, and it gives them away to have family members from their home country, possibly join them in the US, and it's different from something like a refugee visa, the TV's are really recognizes the unique circumstances that a non-citizen victim of trafficking might have in, in the US, sir. For instance, it recognizes that a victim of trafficking may have been forced to commit crimes while they were being trafficked often related to their trafficking like prostitution for instance and gives them away to be pardoned. By the government for those crimes TV's though is intended for people precisely like this woman, I met recently. A couple months ago, I went to Washington DC just outside of the city in one of these news, sort of booming suburbs, splc after block of office building and shops. And there to meet someone I'm going to call Speranza. We met in a small office. She was with her translator and her lawyer. And I just wanted to hear her story. Me nominate is bonanza or Manama chose to start going status. Eat them being aqui con qui Esperanza is now in her thirties, the childhood, she described in a small town in Latin America was poor. But happy she had a big family. They worked in agriculture she had to start working when she was quite young when she was eighteen she was approached by a man on the street who she described as being wealthy. Looking he was well dressed. He said nice things to her. He flirted with her local Nasional moment. Calm. I met him like how you just meet people along the way in a store, or someplace, you just meet people by tents. And so we started getting to know each other we started talking emphysema Sockanosset. She was not true. Taken with him. And they started dating after a little while she moved with him to his hometown, along with her two young daughters who she'd had from previous relationship immediately things started to change when they got to his hometown. He said that he didn't have enough money in that because he had spent so much money on her is now her turn to help make ends meet. She assumed that it was going to be working in a restaurant or agriculture and things like that. But he took her to a hotel, and he said, this is where you're going to be working, and that was her first experience being forced into prostitution gone. Legit guy yield senor miss Blake, oil when I got there, the hotel owner explain what I actually had to do. They give me room to give me towels. Call me gave me a Kahal in as a memento Janos have yet at a real mental, presser people will own Condie really even know what a condom was. She stayed in that situation for a few months, and then her trafficker came to her inside. If you go to the US, Joe make more money. She had never considered moving to the US, and the idea of it was terrifying to her not just because it was a foreign country. But because she had children, her children were one of the ways that her trafficker controlled her. He would withhold them from her until she made a certain amount of money. He knew that she was worried about their wellbeing. He knew that she wanted to see them. And so he used both of those facts to, to keep her doing what he wanted her to do. Son Baramula no mass prosciutto. Some Pammy in for me. They're the most precious thing there. What sustains also stand. There may be that's on a s on KOMO this girl's are like the Canaan my hand that prevents me from falling KOMO in western, and memento. But an okay. AM. Clearly, you are not able to take them with you, when you were forced to come to the United States by trafficker. Nobu that. Nope. Well, let me see us. I couldn't bring my girls with me, because it was part of the plan in what way L plunder air, some plunder Janice at Blundell persona. Kim Metra is part of the plan of then men who was bringing me here. Did you get to say goodbye to them? The real opportunity, otherness Amana. And this, this is my chance one week before I left to say goodbye loans, kill us missile credible. Kimmy last time I saw them. I remember my daughter said to me put a coward on no buses must book on south wrath. Mom, why don't you spend time with us anymore? No. So Becker for level I didn't know what to say. Salata Kevi hit last time. Our new import just remember. I told them I loved them looking for up. I suddenly thrust beat us. Tell them perennially bubble where yes. And no matter what happened, I would come back to them, sooner or later, ES study. I'm Muslim doesn't know what we would be together again. you may be thinking that as Brown's story, sounds really familiar and that's because many many people are trafficked in the US every year. Some are sex trafficked and others are labor trafficked summer citizens, and some are not some crossed the border on foot others, come in through legal ports of entry since trafficking is notoriously under reported. It's virtually impossible for us to know how many people are being trafficked in the US, but in two thousand congress came together and passed a bipartisan piece of legislation called the victims of trafficking in violence Protection, Act, otherwise known as the TV PA, and that was really important because what they were saying is we don't know the scope of trafficking in the US, but we know it's a huge problem and we want to help survivors, one of the most important thing. Legislation led to was the TV saw Martina Vandenberg is the founder and president of the human trafficking legal center. And with someone who really pushed for the TV PA of the time it was being drafted. It was a coming together of experts from across the spectrum people expert in domestic violence, people expert in migration, people expert in human rights people who had been serving trafficking victims, although they weren't called that then what were they called? You know they were called victims of victims of servitude or victims of involuntary servitude. It was the sort of crime that had no name really, because trafficking at that point, people thought trafficking was something that happened in Nepal. It didn't happen here. Right. That was some foreign problem that happened in Thailand. Not in Los Angeles. It all trafficking. Victims are in a really perilous situation, but there are certain unique things unique dangers to non-citizen victims. The TV's are recognized that they're in a foreign country. Maybe they don't speak the language. Maybe they don't know anyone they might be at risk of being arrested for crimes that they're forced to commit because of their trafficking. Maybe they don't have proper documentation, and that gives their trafficker in incredible amount of leverage. If the trafficker says to someone they're holding enforce labor force prostitution. You have no passport you have. No visa they're looking for you. The police are my friends if you go and ask someone for help, you'll be stuck in detention for months, and ultimately, you'll be deported. So much better says the trafficker for you to stay with me and continue this life, then for you to go. Out on the street with no documentation, and get deported. Esperanza crosses the border with a smuggler hired by her trafficker. This is our inner on two thousand six that she finds herself in the situation. She ends up in Queens, New York and just a warning, what we're going to hear is really difficult. It involves details of bronzes day to day life being trafficked. So if you're listening with children, you may want to take that into account. In queens, bronzes traffickers have her living in an apartment. Done the yesterday by. Quasi canonical channel piece. I was in a room with a mattress on the floor. I those KOMO KOMO those people the robot who two types of work, and not about at them in those one where they have you working in apartment, and Goss in the other one, where it's like the lever jobs Musseuw's thunder in the pizza Kameda, give their delivering pizza or food to a call by phone, and then we'll be taken to the addresses. They gave. How many clients on average which you see a day when the Vietnam era? Komo KOMO Cuando nutty and annoying million from honest little day like when no many clients enter store. L mini more. That was the minimum was maybe twenty five thirty five client. They seem golfing, Cinco twenty five to thirty five. That's an incredible number Quan. Listen. The can I say casino is always look on a day when there's almost no work living. That is what it is in corporal, gondolas Diaz on the when the days are busy fastened Mazdas in Gwent assistant, thin. Sometimes it's more than fifty. Sixty seventy on weekends. It's, it's all day long is still the. Well, so thirty five is isn't average. So the post. Okay. She wants to take a break. Okay. Okay. Of course. If you've never been in a situation like this before you might wonder why didn't she try to escape? Esperanza was in a city. She was surrounded by people. Why didn't she tap a police officer on the shoulder and tell him what was happening to her and actually as Browns did try to escape ones? She left the apartment and then immediately found herself in a pretty terrifying situation. She's in a foreign country she doesn't speak the language. Her trafficker has told her time and time again that if she tries to escape, she'll be arrested for prostitution. She doesn't have any money. She doesn't have any food. And of course, she's thinking about her kids. And if she escapes, will the traffic or hurt them. So she goes back to the apartment and tells her traffickers that she got lost. And that's why she's late. When Augustine gamma free so given all of that had one of the most surprising things about us, bras story is that she managed to escape and the one night, she was coming home and something was wrong with her key. She's struggling to get into her apartment building fluency. No, no Putin threat and thought says as she's trying to get in. She sees a man coming up to her Ilyasova coming on though, he restaurant gum, he forces, her to a nearby park where he rapes her. I was so successful that AMIS had not. She ended up getting pregnant by the attack and her traffickers, so enraged. He beats her and takes anything that she owns out of the apartment, leaving her nothing. And I think in that moment with absolutely nothing, having just been subjected to a whole other level of trauma. She leaves she walks out. Esperanza makes her way down to DC where her traffickers would send her to work. Sometimes she meets a man and she gets pregnant again, and even though she doesn't stay with him. She has the baby. She also goes to a local church where she makes them friends, and in a real turning point, one of her friends helps her get a job as a nanny no Mackey, Nick K kick. We that lessening. Yeah. By by Adam never imagined. She would pay me to take care of kids. My the Santos identify sink upper last dose first week. She gave me a hundred and seventy five dollars for the two girls, then to for me, to, to other moms with kids, just like that her life starts to open up in this incredible way. Yes. That's I seem Sally though, the dollar. That's highly was able to leave everything hunting. Haunting cost cion now I work in construction. Nick bit ac- that I'm learning electrical work. I'm sitting learning my numbers because I didn't go to school. That's still hard for me. How? Chow. She gets referred to a social services center in DC called Yuda, and there. She meets a lawyer who tells her about this special kind of visa for trafficking victims called the TV, so which will help her stay in the country and help her bring her kids over. She first comes to a you'd end she doesn't sixteen and two thousand sixteen of course, is also the year that Donald Trump is elected president. So the rhetoric around immigration immediately starts to change. Country, you wouldn't believe these people? People. These are animals and the Trump administration publicly condemns trafficking, and they claim to have made it a cornerstone, human rights issue of their administration. Getting it done human traffic in his disaster. Nobody knew too much about it until women are tied up there bound duct tape put around their faces around the house, in many cases. They can't even breathe. Trump brings it up all the time and speeches his daughter, Ivanka wrote an op Ed for the Washington Post about trafficking. But the way Trump talks about it, it fundamentally misrepresents what trafficking actually looks like on the ground and the policies that he's passing like ramping up deportations, like making it harder for people to get asylum are really just making it that much more difficult for a victim of trafficking to leave their trafficking situation and stay safely in the US and not long, after he's elected, the people who actually work on TV's cases, star. To notice changes in the process. Here's Martina Vandenberg, again, the Trump administration started making changes that seemed small seemed like tinkering around the edges if you don't do TV's applications. If you're not dealing with these particular clients, you might not even notice. Kitty Flannery is s bronzes lawyer Yuda. And when I meet them, she starts explaining the whole process for applying for a TV set. Oh, the first one. This is the application for the TV's itself. It is ten pages long. Katie explains that one of the forms were clients often have to submit with TV's. Those has a fee of about a thousand dollars to file in the past, the government has usually weaved that fee. But under Trump things have started change USCIS determined that there was insufficient evidence of her inability to pay. I mean, did this come as a shock to no, no, I mean, two years ago, it would have. Okay. But basically every fee waiver that we submit against denied. It's not clear to me that anyone is really even looking at them, interesting. So when it comes to evidence for getting the visa so the standard for TV is a is any credible evidence that is US CIS is standard of what is required. So they will consider anything, right? And so it's kind of saying, we. We believe the victim. Katie told me is that the government started sending up locations back asking for more evidence that the person had been trafficked and you can imagine how absurd an impossible that is for most victims of trafficking, who just simply don't have seats or leases on apartments tax returns like me. What kind of evidence were the expecting where you just really wouldn't expect there to be a paper trail? But probably the biggest change in the TV's process involves something called an n ta if you're not involved in immigration law, you've probably never heard of it, it stands for a notice to appear. And basically, if you get an anti, it means you have to appear in immigration court in November two thousand eighteen the Trump administration announced that if you apply for TVs, and you're denied you may end up in immigration court. Here's Martina Vandenberg, again, in the past, what I could say is, if we lose, there's no downside because if we lose the government doesn't go after people, nobody's going to deport you, you're back in that same limbo that you were before, right? You're still in limbo. The change in the middle of two thousand eighteen said any denial, you get a deportation notice? I have not filed a TV's applications since November of two thousand eighteen. So while the administration has claimed to make trafficking priority. It has made these changes that make it much harder for victims to come forward. Not only is that cruel to the victims, but it makes it much more difficult for law enforcement to pursue to investigate to prosecute these cases. I talked with a guy named Greg Dalga a former special agent with homeland security investigations, you doing, Greg sorry to keep you waiting. He worked on a trafficking task force for years before he retired in two thousand seventeen and here's how he put it if you think about a drug crime. And, and you say you're, you're driving down the street. And there's a kilo cocaine in the trunk and you get stopped, and they run a dog around the car. That's the that's your evidence right? There is is that kilo now put that over on the on either on the sexual labor trafficking side and you're driving down the street and you have a fifteen year old girl in the car, or you have to seventeen year old males from Guatemala who, who are working at some eg farm, and you're, you're putting him in horrid conditions if they get stopped by law enforcement, and, and they won't talk to law enforcement, as far as their predicament, what's happening to them. You have no case for me as a as a as a as an investigator. But as a person. To know that. Okay. At the end of the at the end of the tunnel, somebody on the other side, may ultimately sit and say, okay, I don't, I don't believe your story or your story doesn't carry enough weight. And then issue them MTA, I think, is it doesn't make for. For a good roadmap to be able to do a criminal case. The TV's a data for Trump's first full year in office was recently released the numbers show that the approval rate has been cut in half. So now about thirty five percent of the applications or being approved the wait times have nearly tripled the used to be under a year. And now, the are approaching three years and really importantly, federal prosecutions are down about twenty percent. They're shooting themselves in the foot. Here's Martina Vandenberg again, if what they care about is trafficking prosecutions, if what they care about is putting traffickers in prison, which is what they say they care about. There prosecutions are going down, and we'll go down further because trafficking victims under these circumstances can't actually cooperate. S bronzes application is in. She knows that if she denied she might be forced to show up an immigration court. But it's a risk that she feels like she has to take she has kids in both countries in the US and back home. She can't go back. She's terrified that if she does she'll be at risk of violence from her traffickers, but her older kids are still there right now there with her family. They're safe. But she's worried about their future. She's worried they're vulnerable to the same things that she was full nor bowl, too. She's desperate to get them to the US. Love is if. No. I meant that KOMO. On that. But I me the TV's a means and you live for me, none. But it's only that, but on me and you tune ity for me lobby sat there. But I'm mean asset as at a Cobra movie that kit, if the it, let's me recover the life. I lost enough. I'm complete with my whole family Gwenda, the see the SS Donen moment of. Lipa via the oes committee at a nice half added to do this. I have got to give me wisdom to strengthen needed to make a decision. A big decision. Manohla Tony, they'd be giving me the chance to live many times more as best as from everything that's happened. I don't even know how many films I could make. There is so much SA. Nice me, this isn't even one quarter of my story of my life. They let glad at that, by the study, other me v them. That's the voice of Saudi translating for the woman, recalling s ferenza, Jetta Krige. Ask is a journalist for the fuller project which reports on issues that impact women globally and she contributes to the New Yorker as well.

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Roleplay Retcon does Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull(s), Ep. 3: Has Anybody Seen Reggie?

Roleplay Retcon

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Roleplay Retcon does Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull(s), Ep. 3: Has Anybody Seen Reggie?

"Role play. Right. Kind does not own any part of the movies. We read con nor are we associated in any way with artists who made them. Also, while we're not the rowdiest bunch of hooligans. We are adults goofing. Also, he may say some stuff that people wouldn't want their kids to hear thanks and enjoy previously on role play ret con does Indiana Jones and the kingdom of a crystal skulls, we believe that the crystal skulls have immense power time in space, immortality knowledge of the guides. That's why monotony's want them. And that's when we got to keep them out of the hands of the Nazis. The ruins of the villa, you can tell once that it was once a prominent, and beautiful piece of the region's history. But now it's just a few lonely, walls and piles of probably bricks. There's no people or animals. It's completely silent here and we're in the town centre, right? Does Massine weird to you? Not so much is a bird smash it sucks. It does kinda rate. It's all busted. Inside that chest is a raft piece of cloth that reveals a map, you notice. The map is a is a very crude very old map of the Amazon river. Eldorado river something something starts to buzz in your head. It's just a low kind of like. As the cloth slips away from the figure the buzzing in all of your heads ceases. And under that, claw. He's a pure lump of crystal cords shaped into a skull. Realize alex. This is Steven Lucas in the first episode. Did you name that after Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, I may have done that thing. There's a couple other guys there was like Joe something was he anything? No, I don't actually remember Joe. Maybe there's a couple of men though and something come on. Joe Joe's my favorite care. So we're gonna pick we're gonna pick back up as you pull the cloth in reveal the crystal skull, okay? I would like to immediately ask like, is the skull like human skull, shaped, it is definitely human, skull shaped thank God. Alex, alex. Skull share. I don't know if you know this Alex, but you have just now completely one hundred percent save this movie. I know. Everything hinged on this one moment. Nice. Movie when I ask wanna ask us runs like, is that it? Yes, that's it. And Esperanza is going to. Like lightning speed. Snatch it out of the hole. So as tonight. Try not to, you know set off any booby traps. Give me shit. Give me an agility, roll, all right? Judy role. That's the first time I've ever heard. You say shit. I don't like the word. I know that's what I'm saying. Like that's not really you're not the flavor you go usually go for, for much different words. All right. I eleven so you roll them eleven which is. At least one race. You've you've snapped at thing other as nothing else happens. Okay. All right. It wasn't even the. Jiming though. Yeah. Yes. I really I wanted to say I was thinking about this. I really liked that part of this system. The raises I feel like when you're playing like dungeons and dragons, and the like difficulty check is like eleven and you roll like twenty five like it feels like such a cheap that you don't get something extra for Roland super good. And like I feel like this fixes that the raise the racist. The, the acing is all really, really cool. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. But yeah. You, you take a hold the skull you pull it out there. And as you, do you see what was under. There is an old journal. I would I would very much like to look at that journal, please. Yes. Indiana. Jones, give me an Jili chat. Kind. Oh. To someone else wanna so what else you know, I used up my luck. So I don't care about dusty. Oh books. I fly. Super good jobs. You've got what's called to raises. So you've done real good man. Isn't that? So anew women do the same metal work and only get one race. But basically, you, you start your hand in there, just as soon as that skull gets pulled up like almost you're going for the skull at the same time. But instead you miss, and you get the journal you ganked that other as nothing happened. By the way, Indiana Jones, definitely wanted the skull, and then he's like, okay, this is good. All good. The journal. Yeah, you've got a solid little journal in your hands there. The inscription on the front of it is very old Spanish, okay. It says the journal of pub, low bizarro that kind of sounds like English. But okay. Well, it does. Because your ears are translating it real time, like Google translate app. Exactly indiana. Jones has Google translate for his ears. And and is is part of being a professor. It's a perk. You get for being an adventure professor school for two years for that. What is what is what is yours? Translate the insight to say. He's got to open it and possibly read it. I, I think that's I think I think Jack has the right of it. I think I definitely did that. Oh, yeah. But also, I feel like I feel like we should is there anything under the journal is there anything for Dr snatch up our job. Do you want to start your hands in there and find out? Now. I'll, I'll look, I'll lean over and look jock as you investigate this, this whole that these, these objects were found you find a snake. Oh my gosh. Is is Reggie. It is not Reggie. Reggie is Reggie where's has seen Reggie. By the way, that's my, that's my catchphrase this week, anybody seen Reggie. I'm hyper aware of where Reggie is at all times. Yes. I've been waiting way to do this. But yeah, all right. Do snake new initiate friend in here, kind of snake? Is it Chuck? What kind of snake is it jock would know what kind of snake is it? I'm gonna let you decide that my God. Excellent excellent indie. How do you feel that Josh has just exclaimed? There was a large snake in the whole you just had your hand in definitely just drop the, the journal on the ground in, like in, like Beck pedal away. My, my like hands and feet. Can I just say as a sidebar in the one thing that I don't like about Indiana Jones and the last crusade? Is the previous part were when he's a child? And his friend, get scared of a snake and he picks up. He's just a snake and like tosses away. And then he falls into the pin been of steaks, or whatever gets out than that, just creates his phobia of snakes. I mean I like I like the whole overarching see it's very cool. It's just that one bit about the snakes. And maybe I don't know how phobias work. But is, is always a little suspect in my mind, I would say that it would take up much more traumatic experience for you to develop a phobia Blake's. I don't know. I'm no. Like let's be honest. I used to be totally cool with sharks. And then one time I had a dream about a shark, and that's all it took for me come here by shorts now. Well, I did not know that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Like, right. As I said that was like, I don't know. I don't get to define what makes people have fears like that's not maybe, maybe that's just this is my personal hangup. With my favorite Indiana. Jones moving you trying to cram way too much into that. Anyway. Did you find what kind of snake you wanted to be Mona? Yeah. John, let's, let's hear that snake. I did. Oh, it's a coral snake, careful. There are actually poisonous of Koreans from the large group of Lapid snakes, that can be subdivided into two, distract distinct groups, all war curl, snakes, Nuro, curl, snakes, I believe, this is an old world. Coral snake? Now. Like reggie. He's a python. That our agility roles were so high that we didn't get bit by this horrible snake. I'm not sure if they're normally found in Spain. I did my best. NSS next time next time you're staying outside and start round is coming in. It would have been a difference, naked sure. It would have been a below or something, snakes Oto short round away. We have spent a long time we have reading what's in the dirt. All right. You crack open that journal. Yeah. Okay. I assume you do. That's third. Snake jumps out of your face. Most of the journal entries are heavily degraded, and you cannot read them, but four injuries in particular stand out to you. And I'm going to read them in a terrible Spanish accent. Oh, dammit damage. March. Eighteenth fifteen forty one after months of charting. It's great river. We happened upon a grand find Eldorado the fabled city of gold. Though. I must confessed where I imagine towering pyramids and temples of solid, golden gyms, the truth of is the city is scarcely more than one large temple made from simple stone, but the riches it contained it can. No can be no other place on earth. The golden man, guarding entrance marks. It so. March nineteenth fifteen forty one we've made a thorough search of the city and have discovered that most curious objects three skulls, seemingly made from solid piece of the courts sitting on a rather large alter the skulls are completely smooth, and we can find no traces of tool marks or carvings. We brought up the skulls some of our native guides fled into the jungle. Those who remained spoke of ill, omens, and evil spirits. March March twentieth. Fifteen forty one. Today, we must leave the city continue our mission down river. Lana has ordered the bulk of the bridges to be left here at the location of the city be stricken from the chart. Unofficially. We've drawn up a second secret map. When the time is right. You show return for the treasures be wait here. We'll be taking two of the skulls with us. Our lead guide implored us to leave one behind on the alter to appease the gods. He threatened to leave and take his men if we didn't. So we had to agree. Alana made a gift of one of the skulls to me, and kept the other Heald's. It close says it speaks to him. Then there are several degraded entries. Jumps forward to July ninth, fifteen forty five. The voice grows louder by the year. They speak of power. They speak of wisdom. They speak of memoir tally. Speak of death. I've taken a locking the skull away, but the voices, they reached further and further every day or Lana seems to have succumbed to the voice, and a set sail for our loss city to reunite his skull with its brother upon the altern. I wish him luck but man was not meant for such things I will say here live out. My days as got intended, not as a slave to the kingdom of the crystal stones. Okay. Yeah. That was a lot of information to absorb. You'll get a paraphrase, it let me confer with Esperon real quick and says, like. Well first, let me ask you, okay? The guy who wrote the journal where was his like resting place. Where did he stay? I didn't quite this. This was this house. Oh, oh, he's thinking just got his thing. Yeah. Okay. We got us things. Okay. All right. You just you just gotta skull. Where was the altar? The altar was in the city of gold in. So does this journal, give us a clue as to where that would be? It does not apparently according to this. Francisco or Lada shook the map to the city with him on his return journey. But didn't he make a second map like the backup? Your bag original, they had originally chart of the river that you have you have that you have that map, but it does not have marked on it. The location of the city. I'm some detective skills. I'm stumped. So if you've got an idea, I'd love to hear them. Okay. So as the foremost scholar of the crystal skulls, which I am what? How does this match up with my like previous knowledge? This matches up pretty pretty well with everything you've. No, you didn't know that the skulls were linked exactly with the, the city of El Dorado. Okay. So that's new. That's new information for you. And you didn't know there. You didn't know their location being on the Amazon river. Okay. Or near. And did. I know that, that they that they had like. Speaking abilities did. I know that people heard voices when they were around the crystal skulls, did I read that somewhere? You've heard rumors. Okay. But you. Always been reviewed ever had proof. Okay. If you could call this proof, which is pretty good proof. Okay. Does she hear voices now? Let's see. Make make a notice check for me. Sorry, I didn't mean to make your character voices from a creepy evil skull gency. Well did so. Four four is a success. You do not hear anything currently. Okay. I do not hear anything currenly. Maybe they're not real. Maybe you're not real. I'm sorry. Just kidding. No one, sorry. I just met maybe. Maybe the voices. They heard in their heads didn't come skulls. So you're just saying that a couple of guys just had very similar hallucinations for no reason at all. Mass hysteria has happened before. Look at any. Any news about cults had, you know, several things about cults you have a history skill devoted to the occult. Hey, by the way, some buddy rip someone else's heart out of their chest, and the net heart caught on fire. So. Yeah, it was pretty much. Somehow, I definitely believe Indiana Jones, and feel like nah, that's done. Those people were just nuts. Fact, short short round Yale's that from the other room. Yeah. You're not here. Start round outside no one wanted to play you. Breaks my heart so much. Also. Hi, how come I was allowed to do a Hispanic accent for Bain, but, but Alex is allowed to read the journal, Pizarro into Spanish accent to answer that question for fear of hurting. Your feelings been one ARCHE hair bullet accents to I don't think I would call what I did a Spanish accent or an accent at all. And three no-one said you couldn't. Definitely a part where all all yoga. Head all three of us were just like you, just yeah. Yeah. I mean that's the way way short round. I like I didn't wanna I wanna get into that dicey territory. Yeah. You did a good job though. Alex. Thank you. Thank you. As to. As you are sitting around discussing this, though, short round, does come into the room. Dr jones. It's getting dark outside in our driver says he has to get back to town. All right. I think we got everything we need here. Anyway. So S bronze going to take a bit of cloth in wrap up the crystal skull and put it into her backpack. Plan plan in Jackson or roll up is his giant piece of wall art. He's been dragging around. And Dray dragging. It's like it's like the size of a carpet. So, you know, he's got a kinda rolled up and tucked under one arm. But it's dragging on the ground. I feel like it's sticking out of your backpack. Yes. Like a good like a good two feet above your head. So you make it back to the car that you, you hired across the village. Take you here. And it takes you back to town. Hey, while we're driving kind of do a little thing while we're like riding sure I just wanted to make sure that you weren't gonna be like and the car explodes. Like I didn't wanna. I wanted to make sure the car was going to do anything else. It still happened. So I'm like, sitting beside espe- around that, right? And I wanna be like, hey, you're not you're not bad at this. Oh my gosh. Esperanza is going to go blood red and her eyes are going well up with tears in, then she's going to say. Oh, thanks and either you. Yeah, I guess not. I think the dean of where the heck does is it offered? The heck does he teach? It's. Oh, god. I guess it'd be an America right Odin. B b Burnett college. Okay. Yeah. He's the Barnette. Dean might disagree with you. No, everybody will love their or he loves him. I don't know. Yeah. For by perspective. He's like the worst run away with all these shenanigans. Those sleet, fines for the for the museum, that's too. He may famous than as y'all approached the city. The city whose name, I can't recall. S bronze explains that. She's she's. Charged she's rented some rooms for you. She's rented some rooms for you for the night because the airfield is shut down during the evening. Oh, dear. That's one of my favorite places because World War Two and they're afraid of, you know, aerial attacks. Night bombing rates and such. That's fair. Hey, is anybody seen? Reggie. I think she's still like around your neck, jock. Jock jock. Make a notice. You'd better find that talk. I'm gonna make a notice. I've lost sight Reggie again jeans, getting she's been exploring a lot. Mostly because say, oh, dear because I changed my cash race to have you seen. Reggie indian. Oh yeah me. Give me a notice role. Rolled a three fail. Three notice. Reggie because there's a there's a one in there. You have to get to. Okay for a critical fail. Jones Jones, though, did just critical fail. Double ones. You, you really just don't notice a Reggie kind of kind of snake in a little bit around your neck. I very very, very nervous, though in, like essays doing that. I'm like Jok that's the biggest God damn snake I've ever seen. How do you lose it? Oh, you know, right. He's got a mind of her own doesn't does she pleases. Never was one for the cages, or, you know, just me and Reggie hanging out most of the time, that's sort of the thing about pythons is a real big. So they don't really, they don't really move around too much. They kinda just hang out where they're at. I'm sure she's done the cost somewhere. If you just look around, she's glad, I'm not gonna look around anywhere. Indiana jones. Yeah. You feel a little tickling on your on your neck. Feel like his like blood turns ice cold and he just freezes and he goes jock. Jock is ready around my neck. I'll is is our Reggie is looking at is already. Hey. Her off? She's just giving you a classic rich you hook when I feel down. I tell you what nothing makes me feel better. People say reptiles a cold blooded, but, you know, a nice warm. Reggie hugs actually feels pretty good every now and again. He's just like, like has no more words for jock. He is furious and frozen in fear at the same time. I'm a call. Reggie back over I'm gonna I'm gonna let indie to twisting in the wind style. I think I think with a whole snake situation. You don't really call them over have. You have to go. Reggie governor. Reggie and I are friends for life. I'm looking forward to the big twist of this being that jockeys like a secret witch in like. Like his familiar. That's gotta be some art is, as Reggie crawling through the is crystal skull, the skull. Get somebody to do that. Someone through the grace auto the skull was mine, all along. By the way, the first person, draw fan art of this of this podcast. Gets like I don't know. I sat out. I mean definitely you'll definitely get that. I and EV we'll we're tweet it until the end of time you'll, you'll get a crisp Chris pie five for one. I don't think we can even do that. They'll have to come find where they are. I mean that's the second part of the challenge. Isn't it? Fair enough. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, you have to get the baton and goat come across the finish line history. I mean, that's how racist work that. And then after that you'll get your third challenge. It's surprised you don't tell them about that yet they don't get to not do that. I to have the physical challenge. So it's crazy, though. But since you're, you're like listeners, do you get to know that there is indeed, a secret third challenge? So you're already ahead of the game, all who knows where it goes from there. Right. I mean the end because we've done. All right. So y'all y'all get to the, the hotel, and it's very nice. It's a very m arket architecturally Spanish. Okay, I can imagine that Alex. We just watched the man who killed on Quixote's. So I, I have a lot of like a Spanish architecture in my head right now. That yeah, yeah, yeah, it looks very much like that. That city. Yeah. In the men who feel Don Quixote, which is a good movie. It really was. You greet everyone and you a. You get your rooms gets a nice little nice little meal. I say, Indiana Jones, does not greet everyone. I kind of want Indian doesn't break them, they agreed Indiana Jones. Okay. All right. But he's I think I wanted to make him. He's lost a little of his charisma like he's, he's so, well, no. I think the war has like. Old and worn out. And he's only like ten years old. The, the third. I'm not old. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is for the voicing out loud. Yeah. Bless his heart. Yeah, you did just have a snake on you. Yeah. We have a meal. Cool. All right. Then you have a meal. And now I'm gonna give you all a chance to interact with whatever scraping across my ear. Yeah. So when eating space pop tart is that? Like wrapped in one of those like solar blankets, like what it was. It was. Was jesse? Chintzy. You and your pop tarts. I swear come on. Kenzi loves pop tarts from space. It's true. Everyone listening. You need to know that about is well known for loving pop tarts, and it's not the flavor. You'd think yeah, yeah. It's not it's, it's no, it's that one. The we're it's the weird one. It's the weird one. Watermelon, watermelon one. That's there used to be an legitimately was the best. It was not bad. I guess, imagining I don't if it's hot. It seems like it would be gross. But I don't I don't like fruit pastries. Okay. And the only pop tarts, I like are the chocolate ones and the variation of the chocolate ones. Yeah. There's two kinds of pop tarts. There's dessert ones in fruit ones, right? Totally interchangeable inside of both of those two categories. But they are different. They are always in different worlds. The watermelon ones were not bad. But I wanna Mellon fiend, okay? We should stop talking about how we should stop talking about pop tarts. Pop tarts, is listening in, please. Bring back the OG watermelon up times and the ad. You can do that, too. If we're killing all day long, we're telling people to bring stuff back. Gatorade needs to bring back the wildberry. Oh. We got a von on. Let me get. While you're at it for am I right? Pop tart cereal. The cereal was also the little mini pop tarts. The loans that we just like in a bag and we're like. It tastes tastes and take stations. Emba inva- Keebler pizza chips. All right. I'm done. That's the thing I won't back Keebler pizza chips. They were like rita's, but there are pizza-flavored Keebler made him and they were called like pizza lists or something. And they were so good. The end three d Doritos. That's almost say that was also good. Butterfinger. BB's. Well, they are not good episode. This is all going in this'll be if we don't get the answer this episode that'll be the free ads for things that don't exist anymore. That's just making requests. It's like an anti we request things to come back instead of an advertisement to tell you things about things you can buy, okay? I'm gonna give you all chance to mingle amongst your party and talk to anybody that you haven't talked to yet. So we can do some more talking. Okay. Let's talk guys. Oh, you wanna talk. Yes. Eleven tell you something. Let me tell you a little bit about. Yeah. Here we go. The snakes hard is case in a sec called Perico. Daria located in the bifurcation of the Bronco. The heart is able to move around. However, only to the lack of a diaphragm that's the end of that sentence. This just protects the heart damage. When lodge just praise pass through the Asaf against. I bet you didn't know that about snakes, but I do you know, used to call me jug, snake leucopenia Wikipedia Lenzi 'cause they're like, snakes much. Hey, have you guys seen? Reggie. No. Catchphrase. I forgot. As yeah. Yeah. It's a catchphrase. Okay. All right. George McHale comes around to your room, Indiana. Jones. Late. We're back in our rooms now. I mean you could be anywhere. You like I assumed in these probably held up in his room be man. I am. Did so old so ponders the skull so old. I still feel I guess percents might have the skull. If you're thinking of it, we're all thinking about it. Yeah. Yeah. Jocks broken his mind away from snakes for two seconds to be like, whoa, that's weird. Looking skull. That's true. It does occupy my thoughts. Elo Jones -i. Oh, god. Did you did you break into my room stop by and see how things went out there? The villa. We've what we came for. You found the skull. Yeah. What are you going to do with it? Well, I don't know. I found a journal that's just you should destroy it immediately. Set. So. Might be. MR be best if we did that, but I know the boys back at him I six to get their hands on it. Look, see you need to listen to me. I Indiana Jones am telling you, not even to put this thing in museum. My pilot found a nice wall. Hanging go. I'm using him just fine. You're not on new mural jockey. Dogs. Belongs in Meyer plane next to Reggie. Now. Now that Jones HSA. On ever said anything about putting it in a museum? And I think we both knew that. If you wanna use that thing you're no better than Hitler on. I didn't say we're going to use it just studying tank counts as using it at how I would say as the site. Anyways, do you have it? I don't. Does she have it? No. I'm not going to press the issue, but. You keep your eye on. Then he turns around and walk away, would really creepy. If like Jones, just kinda mutters to himself, like something along the lines of, like I won't be hard. Okay, you're right. Let's be real saying is definitely days are behind him. Like every time there is a close to twenty year gap between these two characters though is there. I, I never heard of age. She's twenty five oh, you could have not done that. I actually I actually think she's closer to eighteen. Oh, yeah. Other. I believe we said she was early twenties. I never heard age. Well, I'm establishing. And now she's early twenties. Twenty two. Why are you undermining my role playing choices because it works for my story? So leave me alone. Right. Yes. I think he did say that. She was earning twenty million gen Z. Gen Z disgusted. All right. Well, he just then he just like then he just mayors is is at him until he like walks walks away. I guess. Maybe he'll. Maybe he needs to say something more to the effect of like he's telling himself like, okay, my new you to I think he doesn't hear you 'cause he's already walked away like five minutes ago. Well, he only say I'm just thinking out loud, I didn't. I'm aware of that. Okay. That would be super weird if like he just like said that, like the conversation into. Anyways, also terrible job that accent, it sounded more Austrailia toward the end. But we're gonna. Truckin. That's how accidents work, right? You like lose it after you got to I mean, I always do. Speaking of bad accidents. Patrick comes to see jock. I don't know actually has pretty good Patrick. Got it almost an Australian. Excellent, dammit. Hello there jock. Lindsey. You sound different. I've been taking me morning pills. Your are your morning pills? Those are good. I have to take some several pills in the morning myself. Yeah. It's liver stuff morning pills, better not be like beer, or whatever, like better. W never said, I was taking a beer. You come your weather's you really. People say. I don't know where that came from. I. And they were struck her your amount of fish. Our fish. I heard that you enjoy the, the occasion of fishing boot I do. I do enjoy fishing. I go fishing, whenever I get the chance I'm a bit of a fisherman. Oh, that's nice. I do love boats. Yeah. But more of a hobby is not so good at actually pilot in boats doesn't have to worry about it. I'll do all the boat and for us, that's sounds grand. Maybe after this is over. We can go get some fish I love to get some fish Iowa. Sweet spot off the coast. Sun hits, it just right. It turns up her green. It's so nice. Sure sounds like a heck of a joint. Anyway, that's what I wanted to come in and say, I'm gonna make my way over to the, the old bar. See if they have any tap water. Sounds good. I might head over with you watch your back, gotta make sure we both make it to that fishing session. Drinking buddy for a water because I'm not the stereotype. Hundred quite a bit myself. This might be a little shocking, actually for you. If that's the case. Let's go have a good time that snake with you. Like to take a look at it have you seen. Reggie, actually. Where's red where you said? Oh, snake airy is wrapped around my leg. You know, we don't have any snakes in Ireland. I didn't know that. Well, actually, I did. I knew I was very aware that Senate on an earlier podcast. And they walk up for the bar that pointless is over. What, what am I what am I seem to new to new friends? Hey, this is Jen. See, I'm going to be reading the ads slash special messages. All right. I at is from wannabe gains wannabe games as making a free game. Every week available on drive thru, RPG dot com. And that's drive through spelled T H, R U, RPG dot com, so far they have a golden girls are g called. Let's be grandma a Pacific rim. Beat him up called my mega shark arms and a game called signs point to treachery, a social deduction cultist game where a magic eight ball decides your fate, and they're pretty great. We actually talked to them about making a game based on small soldiers and they came up with some assembly required, which is super awesome next up. 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So he's not he's trying to be to grumpy about it. As you'll hit the streets. You, you hear and smell the city. This does the fresh baked foods, the little bits of meat music, coming from all corners, people out, selling their wares and buying them. It's just everything's very jovial. I want Indiana Jones to say. Just realized. I've never been to Spain. I think that's a lie. In the NGOs would have been to Spain. Do you know what if you undermine my role playing choices when we're time I'm going to push you off? At the back of your house. I'm just I'm just saying if you're gonna start shooting, you know, so saying things about Indiana Jones, someone who has a very rich in broad history as an archaeologist and historian, you're gonna get flack feedback. I mean he's mostly in, like South America. Right. He's all over. He's all over. And so that was part of it was he was surprised to realize that he never actually been disdain place. You'd think he would have been we're going to keep this. But the first, then I have, like you'll actually in this book, first ones man, you, you have I'm sure in young idiot Jones, he went to Spain at some point forget that existed. That's trying to caution you, sir. Stick with. No, I Don. I mean, we can just say we can just call it young Indiana. Jones, not cannon, not it's. It's. The Indiana Jones Wicky. They're gonna burn us down that. Indiana Jones, definitely spent time in Barcelona, as a spider in World War One, so boy. Been he would have been like five or World, War One. Yeah he was a five year old. Maybe that meant to say World War Two. Yeah. Mine. But I mean technically we could be writing that in right now. The young Indiana. Jones, chronicles say that he was there in nineteen. Okay. What region of Spain? I in. Toward the middle. Synder. Can you remember the city that we're in a region? We're okay, so maybe I'll just do that. Maybe I'll be like you know, what are never been to this particular part of I've been specific town that tree before? Festival is not been on my list of things. I've been this has been the like to railing episode of this show we've ever done. I appreciate all the derailing because this is padded out everything to do. Soon, you come across four large black cars blocking the street. As you approach men and dark, trenchcoats, exit the vehicles and spread out across the lane most appear unarmed. But you get a flash of an import Impe forty submachine before it's tucked under coat. Of two on either sometimes known as an import importing. Yes. Or if you're if you're imported million Yemeni. Looking behind you. You see more men coming out from either alleyway. You're surrounded. One of the men steps of the rear driver's side of the middle car and opens it. Out sets and older men in grey, suit and kept short cropped hair and seems very happy to see good Morgan Jones. I am Colonel Schneider. Pepsi. Remember my daughter as. Do I remind his daughter, Elsa? You have a flashback of about six years ago. It was a. Lonely temple in the crescent. Present valley. There was a German officer lady. Okay, there was a golden Cup. Okay. Is that a big crack in the floor that she fell through from your fingers? She sacked. Killed her actually didn't. But I'm not it's like it's like pretty Nazis are still Nazi Snyder see I've been looking forward to what the fuck that this exit come from. I've been show. Gonna do a regular accident. But this guy, I've lost it today. So. Doing great doing good to thank you. Thank you. I think you're doing better than benthic charity. Yeah. Yeah. But I, I was I've been friends with you longer. Been but who's better friends, right? Alex. I've been looking forward to this meeting for a long time and of Jones. You see, when the German soldier returns base, and told me of what he did what you did to my daughter. I made it my mission. Hunt. You down like the dog your named after. Oh my God. The timing of. It's really good. I do. But okay. I think I want him to say like like. I mean so he kind of he didn't really kill it. Right. I mean like even kind of soldier. That's all it would've reported at that way. Okay. Did anyone get out? Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. But I'm just trying to remember the movie like he kinda even tried to, like help, right. Yeah. He did. He tried to see was definitely her own undoing. Okay. Okay. Well, he, he says that affect like he was like, well, say it out loud. I am just working it up. I'm working up to the Oscar use. I mean he he had some brave words earlier. But he kind of just suddenly realizes that he's in this like middle of a festival full of innocent people. And so was like, all right. Look. We can we can go somewhere quiet to talk this out. Go some quiet. As soon as you and your compatriots. Trump, the right. Yes, you, too and kids to vehicles. I think I think Indian- Indiana does not wanna fight. He's like, all right. Any like looks at his like other companions here. But of course you guys can do you want. Okay. As of holding a rifle question you have a rifle, and a revolver at believe, or no? It's a Colt nineteen eleven. Yes, my I wonder if she was packing. Okay. So is she packing like the pistol in plain side or just the just the up? She. So she's going to. Not in put down. Just like she was asked. But you. John hands Reggie to one of the Nazis. They're not close enough to hint. I really wanted to like. Make one of these Nancy's all the giants name. All right. Yeah. Maybe they will later. John jock, Ed. Yeah. Jock like tosses guns on the ground shit George Mikhail does the same. And so two short round. Have you Trump anything, you're carrying you? Oh, yeah. Like I was the first one to do it. Okay. I keep I keep the bull whip on me though. Of course I feel like I can get away with them just thinking of that as a tool. As the four men who don't have Michigan's star walking toward you. A parade breaks out. And your street is now full of people. Nice. I believe I'm going to take this opportunity to disappear in the crowd. Yeah. I wanna say India was going to be like it's going to be like run. And like he was looking for Esperon. I'll tell her that. And she's like he's like, already lost her, too. So you guys are now in what I'm gonna call scuffle. Shuffle. Nice guys out. You're gonna be in a city maze. Trying to get to the airport. Okay. Do any of you break off in the pairs or are you all going solo? I think that's bronze already broke off. So she didn't really have the time to think if I think if jock heard indie jazz like be like, book, it or run, John off on his own. I like the idea of all successfully like getting lost in this crown. But also losing each other. Yeah, I definitely didn't want you all to be together. But I wanted like, like I don't know, like it would be fine if you were in pairs. Yeah, let's let's, let's do that thing you're always supposed to do in roleplaying games the party. Let's do it. It's usually a good idea. I got. Oh, no. It disappeared. Where did my card go? Was it the Queen of spades? Yes. Okay. So you got the Queen Speights I got the four of diamonds. Jack of hearts, George McHale and and show around are going to have that ace and Patrick Patrick. It's very Jimmy to not give that to the Nazis. Well, the Nazis actually aren't going to take a turn, basically. What's going to happen? Here is each one of you on your turn is going to roll a DC, and that's gonna determine what happens on the street. You run down. That's some good Yeming. Thank you, delicious damning so good appreciated number appreciated. So I'm gonna go ahead and take their turn and I'm gonna roll a decent. He's got a fun. So something happens to them that you guys don't know. So we've got next gen Z Esperanza role. D-6. You got a three. Chintzy you run into some Nazis. Oh, no. Not sees. Okay. They try to grab at u s bronze, give me an Jilin chick. Seven seven that's pretty good. This Nazi goes to grab at you, but you just barely slip under him. What would you like to do? Is it's not a dead industry, right? It's just kinda kinda blocked by a guy. I'm gonna keep running. Done pass through some more people. All right. So he didn't get you. So you just chewed on past. Was in the Jones. Give me a d six role. Six that's good. That's a clear street. You've got no obstructions. Oh. He's like, oh, this worked out for once. And I just I go hoping down that street. I wrote a one jock you have a Nazi in front of you. He their Nazi. So you do see them. He does he sees him. Now. All right, jock. He is gonna take a swing at you. And he is going to miss horribly. He is so off-balance. What do you do sick? Reggie on him. It's Reggie time. All right. Show him thing or two about how how we do these things here Reggie, okay? I'm gonna make you do a fighting role, minus one fighting money's reds. He's body ready. Choice. I know I almost didn't make that joke because it was just going to be a bummer slash not funny at all. Felt like he's not dead. All three. Okay, so you fling Reggie yet at this guy. But since he's kind of backpedaling. Yeah. Reggie go sailing over shoulder. And lands and lands in the street is he seen. Reggie. He's going to recover and take another swing at you. All right. Oh. And he just he is so thrown off by the snake that he rolls a critical failure and falls flat on his face. Yeah, I guess I guess, I'll just you know what bunch him bunch of man. Brought on the ground. Rule of finding plus two. Earl the nine punched him. Good romi. What what is your strength? Gimme. Gimme a strength trait role, this'll your damage anyway. You knock him cold out. He is gone. Ten. It was a ten that's like that was real good. A lot of help you were Jags says is Reggie slurs vaca. All right. We're back up to Esperon. Yes, I'm going to roll ninety six. Got a to you are in a crowded street. So it's going to take you a little bit to get your divert to another another alad to through there. Okay. All right now, we're back to Indiana. Jones four. For another clear street. No. I love this. I love. This of the like of the like scenes, cutting between these guys like fighting off Nazis. And like Jones is just like jogging lightly like kinda just like this is really nice. He's just like I can't believe this worked out this well. Do so, well, that you even see a nice, nice hat, rack of just varieties of fedora 's, and you're like oh, that's nice. And you just keep trucking along. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'd also like to stop into just have like a street meat or something. And they're like, here's someone like playing accordion in. It's like fairy. Nice. He's like I love Spain. It's a good thing. I've been finally came here. Even here, many times, or maybe not at all. All right. Let's see we got. John three and gets some Nazis fi some nice. There are two Nazis this time to Nazis this time. Yeah. Yeah. Big old tough boys. I'm gonna I'm gonna check Reggie Adam. Which one, the one on your right? One of your left. Check Reggie at the left one and I'm gonna be like you take the one on the left. I'll take the one right? Reggie right. Give me give me a fighting mind this one. All right. Nineteen she's this Reggie sales to there, and he's like no problem Jack I got him and like wraps around this guy's head. He wrote so. Well, the snake and talks. Yeah. Roll two aces on that. You them. Reggie as ooh. Oh, yeah. So Reggie sales their wraps around this guy's head gives them a little bite on the ear, just for, for good measure. And this guy goes down. Nice flailing. The other gentlemen, now is going to take that up. Charity to punch you in the face. And just misses so bad. I do this other Nazi. Well, since I'm gonna I'm gonna take swing right back. Take a ticket swing right back. Yeah. See how you see how you like this hidden but good going to do it but the regular plus two. No, no. This was just a regular regular old zero. All right on the ground. Good. Yeah. Seventeen seventeen is going to put his lights out. You don't even have to roll damage. He's down got him. God, though, better. I think you have to jock the, the Reggie maneuver down, Pat. Yeah. I'm really glad I got to use them in combat this this this next session. I'm gonna make you a special skill called the Reggie launch the Reggie line. Nice. All right. Now, we're back up to our friendly biddies see what they do. Benny's old ladies. What are you talking about? Yeah. Biddies. Okay. I'm on a roll this and see what happens. All right. So something happens to your friends that you don't see because you all are down different streets. Let's go back to Esperanza. D-6 do. So then they're blocked off street. This was actually shut off by a big fruit truck. Okay, I guess, I'll just turn around in head for another street to another Streep indi, Ana Jones. Who who you? Oh, okay. Indiana jones. Okay. Would you prefer Henry, Henry junior? Hank, Hank, please. Hank, Hank, Hank Jones police, too. I got to you got to you get to fight some Nazis. It was like, I was having a nice day you were having such a nice day ahead to put into it. You've got to Nazis, one of them appears to have an M P forty Mussina again. Can I please try to disarm him using my bull whip you can try? I'm gonna give you you kinda startled them walking up on here. So I'm gonna give you the first shot. Eight. Does it with a raise? So when you do your damage put in a race. Okay, sixteen okay. Not only do you take the submachine away from this gentleman. You flick it in such a way that it hits the other guy in the head. He goes down. But now being disarmed the other gentleman's gonna come up and punch you in the us. Yeah. I'm so pleased with myself for that working out that I like him not paying attention. Do you do? Give the trademark Indiana Jones smirk. Yeah. Yeah. What is your Perry? Oh, seven. So he hits you. He doesn't he doesn't. He doesn't raise on your thing. But he he hit you in. He's gonna roll. What is your toughness? Five five. So he he he hits you one good. And you're now stunned or your yes. Yes. Yeah. Stunned. So now it's your turn. Okay. You gotta make spirit role. Yeah. You get plus two on this role because of your combat. Reflexes okay boop to boop. Seventeen few shrug this off, like a champ in. You can you got to plus several raises. Where were these roles in Perot's mansion when I was just like looking through a desk? Well, I mean, this is not good looking through desks, fighting Nazis is what he knows how to do. All right. So all right. You can you can act normally you are not stunned any longer. Okay. I'm gonna shoot him. Well, you dropped your gun in the street and didn't pick it back up. Not machine gun. I just got that guy. I mean you didn't get it. You flog it at the other guys head remounted down the street. Oh, okay. The make sense. Oh, yeah. Your whip is not hook shot. It doesn't bring things. I, I feel like it could do that. I mean, I'm saying this is fair. But like you saying that the that whip can't bring stuff to him, I think is a little out of line. It's an Indiana Jones where we think it could. I think the only thing it's ever brought to him was Willie at the end of temple of doom. And that's just because he like, yes, we're, we're four new story here. But again, no, but it's fair. It's fair that it went. I'm not I'm not arguing the result of arguing I'm arguing vetting. The, the fact that couldn't happen. I think it could it could. All right. But I know I should probably use the whip because it like it makes more like logical. Just loving it like bonuses and stuff. But if you think of this guy is right up on you. Yeah. Yes. I'm the best thing right here. Yes. So I'm saying I'm, I'm gonna deck. I'm going to punch him with my punching fists, Romi, Romi, fighting plus zero okay, six a six is just good enough to do it, roll me a strength, four four four stuns him, but he's not out yet. So he is going to make a spirit role and see if he can get unstuck. And he does not. So he cannot act. He is a he you punched him good in the chin but he's still standing. Yeah. So you like he likes tumbles Mak words and I can like I could like do another punch, Adam. Right. I can like awesome. Now instead. Now you're once again. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to do the same thing. I did before. Do. Got nine nine nine good good. Go ahead and roll another strength. Another nine nine is good. He goes down like a sack potatoes. Patrick, Yale from the street. I want to say like wanna say like short round Tommy that one your street is now clear. Esperanza. Wilda you three. You got some more Nazis. They're on your heels. That's broads. Oh, they're chasing me. Yeah, we'll know these this one guy in front of you. Okay. You know what I? Tired of these Nazis? I'm just going to pull a classic Indiana Jones. And just like roll my eyes and shoot from the hip. Me shooting. I'm gonna give you plus two on this from your marksmanship fifteen oh, you issued this one, but good you shoot him in the chest, and he goes down and people scream, and they just like that. And they, they run in every other direction. And now the street is completely clear. Yeah. Cleared it out. Perfect. Let's see who's after. We skip jock last time. Oh, no, no. Go ahead and take your turn now, five, your fun, clear street. Excellent. Indiana jones. Give me a quick. We're all okay. One. Oh indy. You gotta other fight. It's just one guy, but he's a big guy. Seven good. Role. Is damaged for you. So you roll the ten which puts him down. How do you take out on this guy with your bull whip? I like I like I guess I like rapid around his neck. And I like I like flinging into like a food cart, or something, and it crashes and then and then like he looks like kinda sheepish for a second. He's like. Whatever sorry is Spanish. And he likes he like, kind of like tosses them a lot of money like, basically, all the, like, Spanish money headed his wallet. And like runs. As you as you pass by this last guy, you break through the last street and see the airfield directly in front of you. Okay. Any you're the last one to get here, somehow some even though I had the least amount of the least amount of stuff, but you're the last one again. I really took my time at the other food card when I did enjoying yourself. It was. Nice. Yeah. So you start running toward the plane and some Nazis behind you. Now that you are not in the middle of a crowded street. Start opening fire. Jock. Give me a pilot role to save. You can get the plane started. Let's see. Roller fi- five is good. It's a it's a success. You start you start rolling down the. He's not rolling down the. Runway. That's what that's what the words call. Yeah. The runway. That's the part where the planes take off from a bit of an expert on these things. Indiana Jones jelly roll saving catch up to the plane that has now moving. Two troupes. Come back. The movies me, new start falling behind. Give me give me another one. Now, remember, you can spend benny's to rewrote since you have a lawn, when you spend a bit to roll you get plus to automatically twelve after. Okay. That is that is flip onto the lettuce three raises. So you start to lose ground. And then you're like, Nope, not today and you start just huffing and you get up to the door and McHale and round pulled that arms to get you get you pull in the pull you off and job. Give me one more. One more pilot. Check as I get in there. In their India. Jones to say has anyone seen Reggie. And then Jack Rowell's he does it. Well enough. I suppose jock, it's another another five and he starts off, as bullets start ricocheting off the whole, and y'all sale off to be up to be fair to jock. This is piloting under some, like pretty unusual circumstances. Actually, he's so used to piloting just taking time with it. Yeah. We got this. I'm back in the pilot's seat, I feel real good about it. He's like, hey flight safety is important. So y'all y'all scape, you start going off into the blue? Blue sky. Hey, where are we going where am I flying this?

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Navidad y el grito de esperanza

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Navidad y el grito de esperanza

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Full Episode: Wednesday, March 13, 2019

Nightline

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Full Episode: Wednesday, March 13, 2019

"Are you hiring with indeed you can post job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash Nightline. That's indeed dot com slash Nightline. This special edition of Nightline nineteen days of terror continues here now met gut men. My neighbor something exploited blood everywhere makes voted in the house on the real daytime. Nineteen days. A bummer held the city of Austin hostage. Locking its residents in a state of terror. How many more bombs were sitting on somebody's front step right now? Six bumps killing two wounded five others tonight. We take you inside the hut. For one of the most prolific bombers in American history in the history of this country. We have had a serial bomber that planted. This main devices in a nineteen day period everyday needs. He's still out there. You are racing the clock and you're trying to make the madness stop all the ground at the scenes with the Austin police. It's a trip wire the bomb squad. It with unprecedented access to the government's top law enforcement agencies looked at the truth and said we obviously had a serial bomber. When the set up the national command post here for the ATF agents, and the FBI the bombers car was directly over this hedgerow in this corner. Revealing new never before seen details on how they piece together the puzzle and how it all came down to fish own depot. Surveillance footage pleading them to those gloves. Brought them to that truck. And the one specialist to identify the men who them for over two weeks out the seven to nine and it was the bomber name review on them. And were inside the final moments one final chase. I told them whatever you do gotta stop him before he gets on news. Austin Texas, a colorful capital city known for live music barbecue. There's a lot of good things that are going for Austin. We built ourselves as the live music capital of the world. We've got a very vibrant, nightlife, most people in Austin feel safe about the city, but that shouldn't have security would be shattered on the morning of March. Second twenty eighteen breaking news northeast Boston. One person is in the hospital after an explosion at home by one one eight. I don't know what's going on. My neighbor something split or something. He's there's blood everywhere annual immediately thirty nine year old Anthony Steffen house to package left outside his door. Unknowingly detonating a bomb. Police racing to the scene and for the bomb squad. This would be the first time that they had dealt with a real bomb after we were there are a few minutes. We realized that we had a victim type of injuries. The victim has the same. I think at that point. He realized we had we had some sort of bombing. There is no information that we have right now to believe this is anything other than isolated incident. A most unusual method of murder one that brought in teams from the FBI ATF analyze the seep. But all seem to agree that this was a one on also police departments organized crime division had conducted a raid in the weeks leading up to this bombing on a house on that very same street. We did have a very early feary. This wasn't intentional act. But they got the wrong house. The wrong victim, everyone thought that this was a one fatal for the Austin police bomb squad in particular. It was already a busy time of year. It a week the south by southwest festival would begin as seen in these promotional videos over four hundred thousand people with fourth America's eleventh largest city then a March twelfth. My daughter's heavy. Out on bail. But a package from outside and exploded in the house another package bomb had exploded killing seventeen year old drill in Mason in injuring his mom as we're getting ready to go in and start processing that scene. That's when the third device functions. Five hours later, another explosion would send bomb technicians scrambling. When I heard the bomb squad commanders said, we have another device I thought in the United States. This normally is look we see happening overseas. He must have been thinking we under attack us here. Here. Hey, guys back way back away. You guys might be bomb. Third bombings severely wounding seventy five year old Esperanza Harare that the third scene is what I looked at the chief said chief we obviously have a serial bomber when he set up the national command post here. All right, everybody ready. It is important that people be vigilant and be aware for things that look suspicious if you have had a package show up at your home, and you were not expecting a delivery if the package that is delivered to your doorstep look suspicious in any way, call nine one one reported. Six days later. No suspects would be named as the city remained on edge chief Manley giving another presser this time speaking directly to the bomber we hope this person or persons is watching and will reach out to us before anyone else is injured or anyone else is killed out of this event. Hours later, the bummer would seemingly respond closure. Not the faith FaceTime and exclusive triggered by a trip. Warm Edward detonated injured. Two men. The device concealed by a red sign. I walked over kind of towards this area. I don't remember exactly. But I know is pretty close to here. And there's a bicycle in the middle of the street and these two young men were right here on the sidewalk officer. Seth Modell was among the first on the scene. The look at them look at the fence and realized that I was looking at track we have confirmed shrapnel. I had to start thinking like I was a soldier again in Iraq and realize that this is a bomb, and I just started walking slowly. Shine my flashlight just looking I just started doing what a soldier would do. And I was like there's got to be something here. The trip wire. The device was placed on the ground, and he covered it the device with the scientists sealant somewhat the trip wire ran across the sidewalk here and was probably only about three inches off the ground, and it was anchored to a metal stake somewhere around this location. This entire wall was just covered with with pot marks from the shrapnel that was propelled from the device. It's a tough message delivered community. You're telling them be concerned about anything. I can't give you a description of what that is. But if you see anything that looks out of place, you need to call us want everyone within a half mile radius of this intersection of dawn song drive and Republic of Texas back here at Travis country to stay inside your homes until we have had a chance to deem this neighborhood, say eight tripwire a technique typically used in war zones. It told him that the bomber was growing a cunning at confidence. A you thinking to some degree that this is a signal to you that he's toying with you. I think it was a signal. We also were very concerned because of the change in the bomb this fisticuffs of the bomb, which now laid let us back to thinking could this be terrorist. He had people of interest throughout this investigation and debt denied of the trip wire device. We knew those people were and they were nowhere near that. So unfortunately, the morning we start processing that scene. We were at square one. Breaking news a package exploding at a FedEx facility, then on the night of parched nineteenth eight fifth explosion this time a package awaiting shipment inside a FedEx sorting facility just outside of San Antonio that. Balmy drink what impli? Von to. That elevated our concerns tremendously because now you're shipping something and before we knew they were placed meaning it could be anywhere. And we didn't know how many it was the bombers method of delivery lease just perceive there, I found out subject male two packages, one of which was now in Austin. I call the FedEx facility in Austin described the package to the manager. And he said, yes, we have that particular box. And he said, it's on the dock for outbound Delury. So at that point, I told the manager that is a live improvised explosive device evacuate the building. And then called the bond squad by doing the ABD bumps. Want had arrived on the scene. We merely sent one of our robots inside and look at the package. Get the tracking numbers off of it and see that. Yes. This was the package that the bomb squad safely. Intercepted had been marked for delivery that same day the tracking number leading the authorities. This FedEx store he was wearing a disguise when he walked into the FedEx, and he was wearing gloves. Fedex employees said he went and got into a red Ford ranger the fact that he walked in raise. That was his biggest mistake. Authorities reached out to Home Depot where they believed the bomber may have purchased supplies. The Home Depot organized retail crime division works in tandem with law enforcement for these kinds of situations. We are then able to identify those gloves come up with a product identification number and combined with that in the sign is where we're able to generate the one receipt purchased here in rock after scouring hours of surveillance footage. They found it when he walked into building. He asked the door greeter some questions. Can I ask him where certain items were he purchased a red sign like this reading Dr like your kids live? You're used in the trip wire, explosion and gloves. He would wear to drop off those packages at FedEx he can be seen exiting the Home Depot and getting into his vehicle as that information was being called into the command center, a team of FBI analysts immediately started searching for the person who had purchased those supplies and own that red truck, I was systematically going through each name and just looking at what what kind of co with this person half. And I got to about the seventh name it was the bomber's name. And I conducted a search to find out what kind of equal. He had. It was exactly the vehicle that we are looking for you're taking the information in real time. And actually, basically finding the suspect. Yes. Which is why was a heart stopping moment, and I got goosebumps. I knew I knew this is something good. Finally, what alluded him for eight. Eighteen days they had the identity of the bomber they began the process of preparing search warrants, but it was already late. So we decided that we were going to hold and execute that warrant at sunup without making any further notice never did get the sun up digit. We didn't. Next. The hunt for the bummer intensifies. I told them whatever you do. You've got to stop him before he gets on the interstate. Got an experiment. Got an explorer. Stay with us. Are you hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash Nightline. That's indeed dot com slash Nightline. This special edition of Nightline nineteen Jay's of terror continues here again met gunman. A year ago? Allston was a city on edge the hunt. I suspected serial bomber tonight striking fear yet again in Austin over the course of nineteen days. Elusive bomber dangled the state capital on a string beer clearly dealing with. What we expect to be a serial bomber at this point. But through painstaking work with authorities had identified a suspect Twenty-three-year-old, Mark Condit o'clock in the morning. I was in the command post the surveillance team reported. We've got him the bomber had gone dark, but after briefly turning on his cell phone. They were able to pin. His location tracking him to this hotel parking lot in a suburb north of Austin. The bombers car was directly over this hedgerow in this corner parking spot or I was in that space that's facing south dark out my lights. I could see the bombers vehicle from an oblique angle, and I'm going through in my head. How's this going to play out just down the road? Members of the city swan team were staged in. Another nearby parking lot. We had information. He was inside the vehicle that was parked. He didn't care who he hurt or killed at this point. We had to stop him that night. Hey, y'all know if FBI's work in this area too at the same time, we can't spook him. I got an eerie feeling that one going to end. Well. Eric ground is on the move back. Now now I backed out proceeded in behind him as well APD swat had the two vehicles that were directly behind him followed him out. Thirty five. Taking a writer southbound he proceeded south on the service road turned out to go to the frontage road divide thirty five. Get old settlers and. Right now, we had quite a few people pull up behind him. And if you look at the videotape see a pretty long train at that point. The guy knew Schwab team had one shot one final chase. The idea was that we needed to hit his van hard enough to try to disable his vehicle. One of our biggest fears is on impact it was going to explode. So I told them whatever you do you to stop him before he gets on the interstate. That make contact with the fans may contact with him. So we exit our van and move up to the vehicle, and he detonates an explosive device inside his vehicle. It's got an explosion got an explosion inside the vehicle. Initially. I saw the flash. And I felt. Shrapnel or debris or whatever hit my face. And I stepped back. I was one of the first up to the windshield area and could see inside. Quickly recognized that that are suspect was no longer a threat at that point. I can't even described you how bad it felt listening to the radio traffic. I remember distinctly going to a different radio channel to advise dispatch taken suspects down. I'm really lucky that I didn't lose anybody after nineteen days. The bombers grip on the city of Boston was over the suspect is deceased, but no high fives yet right now, we knew that we had a hit that house. The next morning Joan this quite cold, the shot good, more confidently, a t and his father purchased this house. They fixed it up and rented it out, but it was in a room in a back the Condit lifted stockpiled enough weapons materials to blow up the entire block. And it was there that he masterminded that bombing spree the capability to build much bigger devices any idea what triggered him. Yeah. That's what everybody wants to know. Right. They wanna know why? I'd love to know. Why? The reality is there's no answer. And there's no reason that could ever make any of this. Okay. We have nothing that gives us indication that he intentionally targeted these individuals. According to the US attorney's office nothing specific to influence, the man's decision to kill our law enforcement partners have renewed all of the evidence, and they have found no evidence of links to a hate group or terrorist group. No evidence of being influenced by any recognized ideology. It may be a mystery. What was internally motivated him authority say they still have no motive the bomber did leave behind a twenty five minute manifesto. He recorded on his phone. I he talked about if I think they really know who I am walk into a crowded McDonald's and blow up everyone that's in there with this last bomb. That's in my pocket. Did he ever express remorse? Did you ever say on? Sorry. In fact, he purposely said he has no. News on that tape. There is no mention of terrorism hate crime. He says he's a psychopath and he likes Kelly. Although excerpts have been reported law enforcement officials say they intend to keep that recording under seal which should be remembered as the victims and the first responders that risked their life. A year later the city of Austin is still healing victims families still left with the shock waves of pain. And don't believe that you know, this is actually happened. We've lost someone truly special clinging to memories at old photos. It reminds me how he loved her. I still feel like I'm walking in a fog. I miss him. So much. As loved ones continue to mourn the lives lost Austin. A still pondering the demented actions of one man as they return to breathing again. Are you hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash Nightline. That's indeed dot com slash Nightline.

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American Dream

Out of the Blocks

30:06 min | 2 years ago

American Dream

"I spend a twenty seven years in my life. This block more than why go up. This block is bought of of me. I'm usually I come to night to see nineteen Eighty-one. I love it. I love so togas sees a love to people. He everybody know who I am always offered to help offer to be part of this community. American deem is here. Brahim our hummy formerly of Egypt on the block. He calls home the two hundred block of Saratoga street in Baltimore from WIP are NPR Rex. This is out of the blocks. I'm Aaron Hank in. We're calling this episode, American dream stories about hope, sacrifice and home. And what happens when you come to America told by immigrants from all over the globe. May Paul Correa every tree of yet nam El Salvador, Afghantistan China and Jordan right after this. Support for out of the blocks comes from Catholic charities Maryland's largest community service provider that serves all people in need through. 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My name is Deepak and I'm from Napa, small country, lots of mountains, rivers, and I grew up in a small city called Bootle and then I went when if completed my high school, we've moved to the capital city and he's got Monday after that. I moved here give me fifteen. What was it like to arrive from Kathmandu to Baltimore? Maryland. How was it different different people, different place and climate? Everything was different when I came here. So I was thinking who I am. Won't twenty on fall job liquors casino blood. It's like land of opportunity. So I'm here for some of those efforts energies but trim trying to. I'm still looking for that. I mean for better midlife pitcher, a way of living. People, everybody is busy and everybody's working. Maybe I'd like to go to vacation where it is quite. Yeah. You look nice right now. So what color are you trying to put onto this? We won't be. What are you talking about. Guest people going to even make sure drown wherever you gonna hit. 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And then later on, they realized it was. Is that really true. In'dock not gonna kill you. Small, there was a small group of Korean immigrants. So you know, they all kind of tighten it because of that, like everybody in the name put cross the street. There was somebody down the street or somebody. Oh, you know, there was Caucasian kids a couple years older than me and you know, I don't really speak English. I just wanna play. I'm four, five, I'm bored. He was out there. He had a bike so I started taking along with them. And what's your name. Call you Bobby. All right. I haven't. They. I know you wanna do something that I still something I know what. He just came to pay like to look like the pay and just gone outside. Does that happen pretty often miss shoplifters often? Sometimes they do that. I never shun Mahara help to Michael beheld and mama GRA star. Sarah. My name is Roseanne helped. Michael addresses mama GRA star, Terry, three twenty two remount avenue. Give me nothing. 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So I just cut cut, cut cut. I worked fast, but now these teams the system because they want more, they want faster production yet the. Yet the. I've been working at the chicken plant for about seven and a half years when I first arrived here I work for ten months outside with a painter. He only paid me around two hundred dollars for ten days work. Finally, I quit because he was cheating me in. After that, I worked cleaning, I got four hours of work a day and they paid me eight dollars and twenty five cents an hour. At that point, I could pay for an apartment food and I could send a hundred dollars to my wife and I couldn't save anything. But when I came to the chicken plant, I under lot because they paid seven dollars and twenty five cents an hour. And I worked up to fifty hours a week now they pay me eleven dollars an hour. Need. The money is still tight though because I have to pay higher down and after send more to my wife because the prices for everything have gone up there too. What. Back there. Soon as valid shows up that dollar gets spent, there's always a payment and another in another. In the end, you can't save much money. That's why haven't made it back there because I'm just done. What is your hope for the future for you? Maybe one year, five years down the road? Where do you want to like? Where do you want to be in your life? What do I expect that I'll be here. I'm waiting for my citizenship to go through here so I can bring my two daughters that I have it out. My wife. In your. W. Life is beautiful here because here you always have to even if you don't make a profit and can at least live. And in these times, there's no need to think about addition to buy a big piece of land and all that because time is already. Time is already the quarter. Backward. Because of him of God. Don't you see the things that are happening there in Florida and Houston? Yeah, he sends all that. So it's time to think about changing leaving behind the material things of this world because more or less the end is near, there's going to be someone waiting for you, right? And I was specked him because nobody escapes from God the bed. Your Nadia, they got. The. Manuel Antonio aria Yoel sharing his story on the one hundred block of south Broadway in Baltimore for stories about the American dream in a minute, went out of the blacks continues. Support for out of the blocks comes from the Maryland institute college of art mica founded in eighteen twenty six as the Maryland institute for the promotion of the mechanic. Arts is one of the oldest art colleges in the United States. Mica is located at thirteen hundred west mount Royal avenue in Baltimore, more at mica dot EDU. We have a tobacco cigarette lighters coal medication. Watches, kitchen stuff, household items. Hello, everybody. My name is Khan nor nor from ghanistan Salama is a great kid helped me with my business, New York, convenience, forty, seven hundred liberty, high timing Gwen up to one, two, seven eighteen or nineteen. The two years of wrestling. I went to state lost states as this is going to be my last year. Wesley, I'm gonna try all the way he liked wrestling, but that's us. What are some of the most important lessons in life that you've learned from your dad? Don't get used. It's very hard here because his dangerous, especially at night time or the stabbing shooting. Sitting head to was one o'clock in the morning. I was studying by the cash register and my positive stay next to watching c. bang, bang three-time from outside their door. We both read out see what was the guy from bullying. You know, blood all over. He got three hundred on the chance and we all hold them together so we could hold his blood pressure on his holes. You know, the gunshot wounds ambulance came, took him. He was pronounced dead that it was there. And the next this regular like acting happen can come anytime he probably did was even he didn't even know he was gonna. What do you think has been the happiest moment of your life? Happy moment would mean. You mean. Few minutes digits. The ako. If I were you. What it small size, a larger size. Twenty one sixty longing Janai while your time. Susan's s. u. s. a. m. c. e. n. g. thirty three twenty six avenue. May our restaurant not easy to to speak English. Cosma they almost Niger Noto checking. Vegetable and fire is. Tell me how long you've been in business here at the Mayflower buffet. Almost a year. And where are you from China? So your mother and father came here. How old were you when you guys came here? Fifteen years before that New York. So you came from China to New York. What brought you from New York to Baltimore? Y? Bolton, too much noise and the New York. So there was too much noise in New York. And you think it's quieter green mount avenue. Now, do you like Green Mountain avenue? Do you like the this neighborhood as okay, the I? I don't live here now. I, it's okay. When you first came here, you didn't like it here. Why? Not? Before huge too much Usan doing bass, the hair and the window as during the cash. This is triggered the cashew and the, but you say things are better now if. Days before because now we hear neighborhood. I noted who to face, they nice to week we let them, that's why. Okay. Now, is this what you always wanted to like when you were young girl? What did you wanna do doing business as my family? That's my parents restaurant. I need to take care. That's why I don't have choice the restaurants, very tired, walking horse. Sometime busy sometimes is quite, that's why. Why stay he oughta tie? I don't guess I rest. How many hours a day do you spend hours? Eleven hours. So how long do you think you'll do this? Will you do this forever? Maybe I don't know yet. Why not? I'm not thinking about it. And you have a fantastic laugh. Has anyone ever told you that? A lot of people actually told me just laugh. Thank you. The. Yeah, it's store to was three street Majia Timor John chick fil Allentown. I'm originally from Jordan Jordan. It's contain the Middle East. It's very beautiful country and the food. Our famous hot sauce jalapeno season commit garlic sauce that he and his foes. When I eat my food, I like to enjoy my. I like my eyes to enjoy the food before I did for this. Like in music, I dunno to music in your mouth. The flavors of like that. I enjoy food. Great at been ups and downs a lot. But overall it was a great neighborhood alike like it, but there is not much traffic. That's the only problem here. This never quiet. It's good, and it's not good for business that quite. So you've been here two years. Talk about what's what you're gonna do next, this location, we're going to close it by the end of two lie on retreat, which is unfortunately, but it's a decision we have to make a life is going on. We're gonna look for your location. Relocate our star to more crowded, busy area if not life is going on, we go back to Virginia. You have a really positive attitude about life. What's the secret to your positive attitude? Because no one gang guarantee for anybody to live till tomorrow. So live, our life is too short. It's like one time at a happened used to have distribution business. So one time I went to. One of my locations, I told them good morning is see. He told me what the good about it said money's still alive. That got you so life. That's the good morning if you outta life because no one can guarantee when you go to if you can wake up in the morning or not. So just enjoy life. Thank God. You still alive. That's it back. I never thought about it that way said you should. My name is Taylor Hong, and we are sitting today at my mom's restaurant called whomping restaurant in the little Saigon area of Chinatown international district little Saigon grew out of the immigration of fit AMIS to the area in nineteen seventy five and Lodo Saigon is in what it was when I grew up as changed, Ahmad sense trying to keep it as vibrant as it once was, but second-generation spent Amies are building types of enemies businesses outside of here. So we've seen a lot of changes, for example, the marijuana, dispensary. That was here in this very same building. It was an illegal one, and there were a lot of crimes. There were a lot of bath, and even though Washington state has a legal marijuana law at that time, it can be only sold as. Medicinal. And so they kind of framed it under that they were medicinal, but it was just all under the table being sold illegally, and the attitude of the business owners here was like, well, there's nothing we can do. We can only protect ourselves, let's you know, close up a little bit earlier, tried to protect ourself rather than engaging with the city. And that's why myself in a number of others started to push the city and say, you know, and bringing media attention using media as a tool which our parents were know to do. And so because of a lot of our work, we were able to push the city to come in and rewrite a lot of the policy that push a lot of these illegal marijuana dispensaries to comply with my sensing and pushed them out into non business areas. You interesting to me you as a younger generation have come into the role of being an advocate for your parents. The first generation. Two interesting role for a child to be in relation to their parents. I wonder if you might talk about that sort of generational dynamic. I think if you speak to any immigrant family, the child tend to have more opportunities. We are able to get an education. We are able to learn English faster. Whereas our parents as immigrant when they arrived, their head, you know, is down. They are trying to provide for their family, and so telling the family dynamic, the social aspect, the education is is left in the hands of the child. And so there is a little bit of a role reversal there and but it's just expected. I remember. So I have a younger brother that we have a nine years age difference. And I remember I was the one who took him to register for school. I was the one who took him to his first kindergarten class and. It was just expected that I would just take care of him, feed him, babe, him co them put him to sleep, but it's just part of life. And then today when we see the injustice or disenfranchise of our parents of how they are treated, it just makes sense that we take on that role. Once again. This is my mom Lynn, lend. Dang, she is the owner of whomping restaurant. Yes. Pusher, Dmitri. I wonder if you might say if you words about your daughter, tell me what kind of a young woman she is, and what makes you proud about her. His back long man. Whatever I live, my daughter, I very vetting. I take Cami everything. Yeah, very, very. He kept me peace. Nettie taken me trouble from everything trouble. Minar is decaf me. I love. So this is called a rou. Yeah. How long have you played it. Maybe foot fifteen fifteen fifteen. Fifteen years. Okay. Tell me your name me them forever forever. Yeah, Freddie feather. Yeah. And your music. The instruments called ERO artful. See play this with a bow. Get a little battery powered amplifier. Sounds good. Street music from hang, hey park in Seattle's Chinatown international district. That's going to wrap it up for this episode out of the blocks is in ridge production of WIP are and PR Rex. I'm Aaron Hengqin produce the show along with Wendell, Patrick who creates an original musical score for each episode. 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Chicago Tonight: Latino Voices, Feb. 6, 2021 - Full Show

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Chicago Tonight: Latino Voices, Feb. 6, 2021 - Full Show

"Chicago tonight latino. Voices is made possible in part by. Cibc good evening either chicago tonight. Let you know voices. A mogul Wtt w news director and your host. Thank you for sharing part of your weekend with us now on the show tonight. It's not just their health. That is at risk. We talk with journalists about the devastating financial impact of the kobe. Nineteen pandemic and latino communities including the hospitality industry a sector that employs many latino women. Two of them share their concerns with us about getting their old jobs. Back till closed captioning. Doing restarted took. They're opening bell. Posted option restarting the shape. Tell close catching oh. We're going to restart close captioning where restarting the show chicago tonight. Latino voices is made possible in part by cibc. Good evening to chicago tonight. Latino voices i'm gonna go by. Www news director and your host. Thank you for sharing part of your weekend with us now on the show tonight. it's not just. Their health is at risk. We talk with journalists about the devastating financial impact of the covid nineteen pandemic in latino communities including the hospitality industry a sector that employs many latino women. Two of them share their concerns with us about getting their old jobs back. Environmental impacts and inequitable distribution a look. At why some chicagoans are fighting large distribution centers cleaning and this back history month. We look to the queen and of salsa to give us a little asuka first off tonight throughout the covid nineteen pandemic. the latino community has been at high risk of infection and death but the coronavirus has not only endangered the health latinos. It's also harming their finances and making them more likely to lose their homes this week as part of chicago. Tonight's in your neighborhood series. We spoke with. Dan full wiler. Ceo of esperanza health centers engage park. He shared insights about how. The pandemic has brought many latino communities to the brink almost twenty percent of our patients as a whole had covid by now and it's been very difficult on on every level we receive requests from people all the time for things that might surprise you. We had a patient a couple weeks ago. Come to our patient. Emergency fund because they need two hundred dollars to pay for cremation Those kind of things are heart wrenching. And it's really hard to see how how pandemics affected us joining us now with more or shy and rudeness reporter with south side weekly just acapella reporter which city bureau s some a reporter with wbz chicago muddiness last fall. You reported that. Eighty seven percent of latino households disclosed having serious financial problems due to the pandemic. What is the picture like now for those families. The situation for latino says bad during the pandemic workers have been either laid off or their hours have been reduced in the reality. Is that the industries where a lot of concentrated are the ones that have also lost a lot of jobs for example. We've lost over eight million jobs in the hospitality industry alone and when we look at the industries that are still doing really well. That haven't seen a lot of layoffs. Wait also see that those industries just don't employ a lot of that. He knows so as a result. You're seeing a lot of families struggling financially. A whole that. I reported on last september. Showed that about seventy. Two percent of latino households in chicago reported heaven having serious financial problems compared to thirty six percent of white households in the city. So that kind of shows you the situation. The latinos are living in right now and the worst part about it is that four latinos with don't have proper documentations or they live extended families. They often don't receive the stimulus. Money that other americans received so that puts people in a really vulnerable situation. And what you end up. Seeing alive is in communities where one member of the family has lost a job. They often go to work in warehousing they get a job in temp agencies. The gonna work and they'll same. Warehouses have a lot of kobe cases. So then they bring their know. They bring the virus to to their home. So they're multi general multigenerational household. And that's what you see. That latinos still have the highest infection rates in chicago justin. You've reported that. Despite the moratorium on evictions people are still getting evicted. What are some of the stories. You're hearing yeah We're hearing a lot of different story. I think people don't realize that aquarius they'll all been family can extend against tenants who supposedly pose a threat And you know. Landlords never really needed the court system to the space. Black and brown people are definitely hearing that now people are using illegal lockout shutting off utility Threats of violence etc to to really move people and Yeah the the sort of a lot of ask both thirty different renters for a theory that we just published pause housing and and it really just highlighted. How easily have fallen into the crack. In how how little or like how ineffective eviction moratorium has been asking people. Play a lot of people struggling. The you mentioned it muddy. Ns painted a broad picture about just the suffering that the community's going through it's telling team to get a complete picture of who's at risk of poverty and homelessness in this crisis charmaine what might be keeping us from having an accurate data air. Lots of reasons why we might not have accurate data on who is at risk of experiencing poverty and homelessness so there are different ways that the city collects data on new who's at risk of losing losing their housing as far as i can tell based on her wording its cobbled together from different sources through the homeless management information system which keeps track of folks who are in touch with services but there are many people who For whatever reason are not in shelters and are not on the streets in having new experienced outreach by the city or by nonprofits they're just not insist them and and there is no way for the city to reno just how many people are experiencing experiencing this loss in not only income that have housing having a roof over their heads as well as you mentioned industries that employ a lot of undocumented immigrants have slowed work or in the pandemic what impact. My president biden's immigration policy have on the ability of undocumented immigrants to return to work. It's going take a while. it's gonna take a really long time. The the biden administration has a lot of work to do to sort of undo. Some of the harm caused by the trump administration and that change will come very very slowly. And it's going to face a lot of opposition. For example he issued a moratorium to to stop deportations and the first one hundred days of his administration but that was challenged in court and so a federal judge in texas actually issued a temporary stay of that order and we also see. He's got a lot of work to do. In reunited fans the trump administration separated thousands of families and a lot of children are still separated from their parents. And you know the the. The trump administration has been reported widely kept very poor and still. That's going to take up a lot of time and energy. he's also having a face. The fact that there are thousands of asylum seekers at the border living in squalor asking to come into the country and ask for political asylum. I to go back again to homelessness. It seems to me that this is the case. But charmaine have we seen an uptick in homelessness since the since the pandemic began. What are the challenges to collecting data on the homelessness. So it is. It is hard to say but it does seem incredibly likely that we've seen an uptick in homelessness just based on the number of actions and people not being able to make rent and not being sure where to go. I think the trouble with really documenting homelessness and whether that has increased or not is because the shelter system have experienced such chaos because of covid right like the number of beds that you can fit in spades is no longer the same because of the new social distance and so i think that you know we lightly have seen an uptick in fact in Twenty twenty during the point in time count which is an annual count that the department of family support services conducts every year to sort of get a snapshot of who is experiencing homelessness at you know on a single night in january actually saw each percent increase from twenty nine hundred and that was at the very beginning of the year that was before coach that had really hit the city You know and a lot of that increase came from soaks. Were staying on the street. As opposed to being a shelter of twenty one percent increase of folks staying in shelters and again. This is before cova kit in so short but very difficult situation. I want to get into one last question to justin in is. The anticipated covered. Kobe relief package coming fast enough for or enough to help. I'm dependent view. I think families that had been out of work for almost a year. They would say no way like people have been struggling for a long time. And the city did supply to round of Or three round of rental assistance last year but the need far exceeded supply of it. So i think it really depends on who you're asking In what there has been over the over year a lot of challenges and opportunities ahead. We'll have to leave it at that for now and hope to have you soon back on a show. Our thanks to all of you for your time and insights. Thank you up next. Look at the impact. The pandemic is having an hospitality workers in a conversation from earlier this week. The coronavirus pandemic has devastated the hospitality industry including hotels and those who work in them. Many people who have been impacted are women from black and brown communities according to the economic policy institute before the pandemic more than fourteen percent of latinos in the hospitality sector and many working in housekeeping or older women who were spanish language dominant money. They'll gather has worked as a housekeeper in chicago for sixteen years until she was let go in october. She shared with us. What her job to her when of our mission if chicago multiple they meet your window. They told maintain the dependable amelia. But that may be less but by me more there that they will make us a thunder caja de deputy around demitra again. That was many other guy who worked as a housekeeper at the mariot magnificent mile until she was. Let go this past october and joining us now to share. Their experiences are melissa. Ganja she was a housekeeper at hyatt. Centric the loop chicago for four years and theresa. She was a banquet server. Swissotel chicago where she worked for twenty years. We should note. We reached out to both hotels but neither responded to us in time for this conversation. Let's start with you. We just heard from on what her job to her. What about you. You've worked in the industry for twenty years. Yes i'll never take over twenty years. And i depend from my for my for everything to pay my house. My bills my my everything. Come behind on my mortgage payments already. Because i have already almost a year. We now working one of the things you also mentioned to us is that while. She's collecting unemployment. She has a difficult time making ends meet. Melissa are you facing similar challenges yes. I was our local in march when the pandemic had just started and ever since then it's been very stressful on all single mother of five. I've been struggling. I've been backed up and ran bills. I'm actually back really backed up on my bills right now. I have two sons in college. Every long has been very difficult since march. another thing. Maria shared with us was her age as a barrier to finding another job. Karen kent the president of unite here local one which represents about half of hotel workers in chicago also said age is a challenge for many women. Let's listen the odds are against women to get another job later in life or get hired as much as a manner that as much as somebody who's younger than earn less wages fill salaries will decrease go just have a much tougher time and slip into poverty much faster than s. Is that a challenge for you. To what other difficulties are you facing is when my age fifty years all emmy Going up playing another place besides the the to play in a factory and they already. They don't equal dana. Only hire me. He goes my age very tough situation. Melissa what are you hearing from your colleagues are they. In similar situations yes A lot of people are going through the same thing. That's why we're fighting to for this ordinance. Because i'm not only speaking for myself. Speak for everybody on i. I was working at the hotel for four years. But it bold. Been there fifteen twenty years. And i feel like they just use those when they needed us and now they let us go. Now there's a pending ordinance and city council that would require hotels to offer former employees the right to return to their old jobs before they could hire outside replacements. We should note that illinois's hotels and lodging association says the ordinance would be difficult to implement requiring hotels to jump through more regulatory and paperwork hoops. Are you afraid that when your hotel does begin hiring that there won't be a spot for you yes. I'm very frank. i'm nervous sometimes. I don't sleep on thinking. They probably on because my age ami it in this difficult very difficult because so many years i was there in vegas throw me out is sorry to hear that melissa would would. The ordinance is some of your concerns some of your fears. Oh yes definitely not very young anymore. Either it's difficult. I replied to jobs and it's not easy operator. I don't think it's fair that we have some struggle Be stressed out in front jabalya. Recap one we lost because of them make not because our melissa theresa we wish you the best of luck during these challenging times and thank you so much for joining us and sharing your experiences with us. Thank you and we're back with more chicago tonight. Latino voices but i to brand friedman with a look at. What's on tap for tomorrow. Go we've got a great show planned tomorrow. A conversation on how black history is being taught in schools plus life after prison in this week's black voices book club selection a rediscovered interview from. Wtt ws are people and teaching young men to be gentlemen tomorrow at six on chicago tonight. Black voices now ugo back to you. Thanks for this city. Officials held the community meeting late last month. Giving updates on the response to the faulty demolition of the former crawford coal plant and on the status of the project replacing it a large distribution center scheduled to be completed this spring chicago. Tonight's nick bloomberg has been looking into those centers and joins us now. Welcome to the show. Nick thanks hugo so these so called last mile distribution centers. They're used by companies like amazon and target to fulfill their online orders and they've been growing fast in recent years but critics are increasingly sounding an alarm about the impact of these senators and the fact that many of them are located in lower income neighborhoods and communities of color a plot of land in bridgeport between the river and i fifty five is the latest sights set to become a last mile distribution center built by the developer pro. Lodges what we've heard via some of the news outlets is that it would be leased to amazon. It's on track to join dozens of amazon distribution centers built in the chicago area in recent years and was approved at a november meeting of the city's plan commission distribution facilities including the one proposed. Be constructed here. A critical function in the local regional and national global supply chain. Some neighbors are opposed because of the additional truck traffic and because of how the deal came together. The developer met with the alderman and city officials in summer. Two thousand nineteen. The first public meeting wasn't for another year. The community was not involved in the process. We were not told this was coming in our asked if we wanted it. Or what sort of mitigations we would want if it was coming in. The local alderman has a different take. And i think this will be a good development project for the city chicago and specifically for the love and war and bridgeport community. Now we're not all going to agree But i do think that we've listened to the community. We've made modifications and changes changes include infrastructure improvements landscaping on the side of the lot adjacent to homes and public river walk and the developer says the goal is for all the vehicles on the site to be electric. But it's not just air pollution issues. Neighbors are also concerned about more truck traffic on this already. Busy stretch of halstead putting more semis potentially in conflict with cyclists using the halstead bike lanes and pedestrians coming to and from the nearby see ta station. I myself was hit at this intersection ahead in archer in two thousand sixteen I went through about ten months of surgeries and physical therapy. And i don't want anyone else to have to go through. That transportation advocate linda. Lopez says that's a widespread concern about distribution centers. She sees contradictions in city policies. We want to see that people can enjoy this thing without a car. But we're also bringing in so much more truck traffic with all these distribution science while lopez says better infrastructure and electric fleets can make distributions safer and greener. Why do we need to be ordering everything online and expect like one day delivery by three days or is there something locally in your in your community where you can go to. Supporters say distribution centers can create jobs and places that have long faced disinvestment and unemployment the launch of this new amazon delivery station. Right here in pullman ought to help them expand hire more workers and serve more customers all of which helps our residents work in their own neighborhood so when they get home to their kids faster and they can either when they wake up but critic say they are always good jobs. Amazon's been criticized for poor working conditions. Labor say many positions are low wage and only part time we should be pursuing developments that will attract quality employment on and they will build wealth in our communities. The little village environmental justice organization has for years fought a distribution center plan for the former crawford. Coal plant where a botched demolition blanketed the neighborhood. Indust we're not gonna give up until the ribbon is an even then we're gonna put pressure on the city in local elected officials. Actually do something about this. Larger issue of the concentration of these facilities in in communities of color which city officials have acknowledged as well as the fact that many fallen areas with poor air quality according to the city's own index. Chicago's planning and development. Commissioner says future sites won't all be on the south and west sides because companies want to be close to consumers around the city but he says distribution is growing fast. We is chicago is have to accept that this sector is a part of chicago's future economy. Our job as stewards of the public interest is to get the best public benefit out of these facilities and hold them to a high standard of liveability in the meantime opponents of the bridgeport distribution center. Hope to push back on its building permits and meet with the developer on safety issues and a cost of cordova. Who's been fighting. The little village site says he hopes leaders think bigger than the chicago as a major city not only nationally but globally can also be a a a model for other. Cities transitioned away from fossil fuels. The question is will. Our our political and economic leaders allows to do the chicago environmental justice network and the transportation equity network are set to hold a town hall on trucking distribution and logistics on the south side. Later this month several city departments are also planning to launch a study of south west side industrial areas early this year. There's been some news this week about one of amazon's chicago warehouses. What can you tell us about that. Go workers at amazon's h one distribution center at twenty eighth and western. Say they're being forced into ten and a half hour overnight shifts that the company reportedly calls megacycles. So where you're working from one. Twenty am until eleven fifty am and they're demanding that amazon author accommodations for folks who can only work part of the shift. They want increased wages for overnight work and lift rides to and from work which they say amazon provides its associates in new york and employees. Also say amazon's planning to shut down that d. c. h. one facility so bridgeport activists fear those jobs are going to be shifted to the facility. We told you about which they say isn't creating any new jobs. Just moving them around the city. Thank you very much nick. Thank you the afro. Cuban vocalists cruise. The queen of sisa was known for her dazzling smile vibrant stage costumes and mastery of a wide variety of afro. Cuban musical styles and this throwback from two thousand two episode of art be cruise. Performs her signature. Hit king budda a word. That is not spanish but african in origin at the chicago theatre. Please lead bet apt matt attitude gate beginning that was that was also known as the queen of silencer singing her signature. Hit keen better. And that's our show for this saturday night. Be sure to check out our website. Www dot com slash news for more from wto news including the latest on one chicago public. School students will return for in person learning. And of course. Join brennan. Friedman tomorrow night for chicago tonight. Black voices now for all of us here to cargo tonight. Latino voices mu vaulter. Thank you for sharing part of your weekend with us. Stay informed stay healthy stay safe. 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