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#865:  RHOBH Season 9 Trailer Breakdown

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#865: RHOBH Season 9 Trailer Breakdown

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And joining me is the lovely and talented Ronnie Kerr from rose as podcast what's up? Ronnie all Hulu. How'd you do? How you doing baby? You know, just ready to jump into two thousand nineteen. Well, I would just like everyone to know that you've heard my feelings. So today, we're going to spend some special time focusing on the trailer that came out right before Christmas of the real housewives of Beverly Hills. But before we do that it is two thousand nineteen and we are going to be going all around the country with our podcast. We got a show coming up in Dallas next month. You gotta go get tickets for that. While you still can we've got shows in Irvine California, Orange County. We have shows Arizona. So Amazon is gonna be April Washington D season, April. Boston's in April. We have just for laughs in Vancouver. That is next month. Go to watch crap dot com. That's real find ticket linked to all these shows. Get all the information you could possibly need come to the shows. They were amazing experience. Everyone has a fun time. You're worried about going solo don't worry about it. You will make friends we guarantee it. It's just a super super fun time. So go do that you're going to you're going to really really have a blast. Yes. And now, it's the fastest the. Yeah. And we've been holding off on this real housewives of Beverly Hills recap. Because you know, we just wanted to wait till twenty nineteen. Also, we wanted to break, and you know, it's like mice to lump these oh Hague's in with the same new year. New Year's same hag 's welders, there's one newbie which is Denise Richards. I'm not sure what to think yet. Denise haven't watched immediate marching in this play by play this very special play by play episode or not play by play one of one say that the TV show on Bravo. Yeah. This vessel shot by shot. Shot shots dissection of the trailer. I have the trailer up on my screen right here. And before we even start the very first shot is the group of women. And we see Kyle Richards is right in the middle. She's got the center diamond, which is pretty bold. That's a statement unto itself except pretty sure that Lisa is the one who has the center diamond. They're really Dave turned on Lisa. She's dumped for I mean. I don't see any other way around. It didn't even let her split it. You know? Yeah. I think they should have passed that diamond. I just don't like the Coyote gets it. But I guess that. She would be the only other. Oh, gee. Yeah. She got fishy should be allowed to show them off those Hera. Yeah. So at least. Kyle. You can tell her gonna hate each other because they both have caught they have competing t you have not yet. Each one of them was like ready to start the season with like look at my teeth going on my teeth journey and cows like look at my teeth everywhere my teeth journey and now those be my teeth journey the. So a few. I'm just looking right now starting with teddy she's holding. She Teddy's all the way of the end on the left. She's holding her diamond up, but the way her dress designed is that it actually looks like she's hoisting up a giant like Starbucks, lots with our hands. Do you see that blessed? Teddy's art. Yes. She looks like she's like trying not to spill soup and then everyone smiling even Erica Jane Erica Jane's like. Jay looks uncomfortable. She's like, I don't know what I'm doing right here. Thuc via befo- what about with the Bill ship up bug. Putting Erica Jane right next to Kyle. I think that's a spot that Lisa rented deserves. Yeah. Lisa Renna, still well, Lisa Reynoso paying penance because last year she was like, I'm not doing anything until I get more money. I'm going to my story lines going to beat. I'm a manager of a rat to my walls. Give me your race. So I guess I gave her a raise because apparently this year she's bringing it. But right now, she's paying penance my being stuck next attending. Nice. I mean, it's funny because it's like they all have diamonds and teddy has like a property now, you know, like ran out. So can you hold this? Instead. And then to read is like tab and math math. So she's got a closed mouth. And Denise Richards is like. Richer. She's like so happy. She looks like she just found the diamond on the ground. Like, oh my God. I found this diamond. And Lisa Ridha is smiling at all with the fuck my even doing here this. That's exactly what her faces like. What am I doing? What why am I why this diamond jewelry at least anti-trump? She's she's not even wearing maroon or purple. Why am I why am I gonna green screen next? Lisa. Hey, why did you guys make my hair Patankar? Whatever rectangle. Scrapie square brain. So got I forgot how invigorating it is to laugh like Lisa, Raymond. Yeah. Now, why is it that the that Hassan glam leasing why are the sunglasses on the real house Beverly Hills logo? Why is the H river? That's new right hit. This glasses have been there. But I feel like shouldn't be Shinde. Are why are we seeing a mirror image? Was this was this clip art that was flipped horizontally? And now it looks like Naveh this backwards. It looks like it's HR, right? Which is like someone's getting fired someone's called the aids are sunglasses of called somebody to HR Beverly beach has called you to the office. Maybe these are sunglasses you're supposed to look at when you're looking yourself in the mirror. Maybe if you're taking a selfie or something you'll read as like a proper real housewives of HR. I've got the glass his own. I've got new teat when them off a teen goes these new classes from Beverly beach. We put two Bs on them. And we put them backwards. You can see them in the mirror, but then we tainted bees with an R H poise. All right. So shall we move onto the first shot? All right, ready. I mean do account ready. Three two one this season on the real housewives of Beverly Hills. Someone is held back on getting this story out there. Trying to make me like a terrible. Okay. Oh my God. Okay. So the first thing we see is a big tabloid splash on came back Zine. Lisa at woah. With do reits after she dumps rescue dog. It is really strained relationship. A source revealed whose name is not peace a panda poop and inside the tooled retard that donkey drama was a hot topic at something or at Kathmandu needs Richards wedding last wherever left rather than the next one oh at the same same shot. And then we go to another headline bit trae from all about the tea. Hey, says she's done. Lisa blocks. Kyle I have made an effort emails and text messages. And you know, I don't know what else to do as far as I'm concerned, the balls in her court. I don't wanna get myself in trouble here. Collared shirts told us weekly. And then they like do a. An x Ray like an x Ray filter on their faces and Yikes. Wow. Something's you don't need an x Ray on. You know what? I mean. It's infected. Yeah. And then they like load up some like, very, basic font. Like, some simple like off brand Helvetica goes, the real story is even more crazy epic unbelievable shot on. What sad is that? They not sad. But like, whereas unbelievable clearly unbelievable was to wide. They had to squish it. So unbelievable. Just like it's like, obviously swished like someone can like squeeze in the text box. Yeah. They're like guys. What's another word front credible? We need something shorter just run with it run. The story must get to press. Hey, can we get Sandra? The seventh grader to come do our titles for this trailer thing. Okay. Okay. You sit here and then bring you some words just make them fit. We don't care. Whatever fun. You wanna do and colors. And then we hear Lisa's say to try to make me a horrid. I'm like who the people who use the pictures for this article because they really make her look like crew DeVille like they picked they picked picture where she's obviously at a reunion mid burp and posted that. Yeah. And then where the font says shocking if you scroll forward, slowly, it's shocking also little condensed. But then all of a sudden shocking to extend it self zoom forward. And then it comes really close, and then it screws by the left a hockey. Okay. I'm gonna start with this shot of its Teddy's looking aghast ready. Yeah. Little clip. So it's it's Clint some of the ladies looking shocked to. Yeah. Teddy's wearing LA LA can't hoop. He's. Yeah. Well, now that her brother is going to be working, sir. Maybe she's picked up some tips through the through the grapevine. Hello, ronnie. He's still there. I hit my so sorry. I wasn't coughing wasn't. But I I don't know. Maybe I was expecting to cough. You were you were just in such shock about Teddy's earrings. Yeah. I'm out of here. I don't I can't re- faster earrings. So Teddy's looking like shocked or happy or maybe she's like, I don't know. What tatty? I don't know. What you I'm teddy. Lisa Venice sitting at a table someone. She's just looking at the side being like, okay, baby. We which year when I got to say about you baby baby. Just really thought I couldn't come up with the way to wear leopard print. It's a place. She secretly has big hoops to. But they're being hidden by the classic Renna. Rhenium wig is looking crazy. I don't know if she's trying to grow it out. She's going through an odd face with her hair. She's going through kind of a Rod Stewart kind of face. And then you have the Lisa we now see Lisa Vander pump. Who is just like looking like. Me I'm in moaning. That's why I'm not wearing pink. Instead, I'm wearing golden green. Sequins? You can bring down my face got bring on my sequence. Okay. Sassi's sighing, which I think is Lisa's basic move for the entire season. That's going to be. It's about this again. I lean liens are going to bring back eilly. They're so anti van Trump this year. They're just going to bring back. I leaned to be like don't jet. Thank you apology letter. Yeah. I'll be for a potential. It's just a little bit here. Icky. Yicky agent. Apologize ever have been off for the past two seasons shooting my brains out ever since Montezuma's revenge. Nikki, I think even cure them shooting is never to me. The next shot is the return of a character that I've been waiting for since season one, and that is asphalt. Kyle like bitch. Kyle's been and asshole. But bitchy Kyle. I mean, this looks he's giving greet. Okay. She's wearing a top ponytail, and which you know, hurt like Charro hair, which is ridiculous. And then she's giving she's also wearing giant hoops that look like lated yet bladed played it as a thing the daily that tangled with another dang. But they sort of also look like they could be barb wire barbed wire hoops that they got those things in them. Yes. She's like, she's ready. She's ready to injure someone. She has the face of it. Disney villain. Yeah. And normally they should these women with really bright lights. So really, all you see his eyes and limbs and nostrils. But for some reason, they're not you're really she's looks like an older telenovela star, you know, who's gonna start yelling. And then if you look down so welcome back. And then if you look down she's wearing like a mex- like a Mexican type top like. Like Flamenco dancer top. Yeah. And you can see her body glitter. Sweating. Yes. I'm like, this is an interesting Kyle. She's mad neck Shah. This is the real money shot. It's three sitting at a table. She's events back aghast as I think she just saw one of those things where when you put the little towel let in the water, and it expands she's like Goi Gore's. It's growing goal. Have you ever seen this little piddles that you put in Walter turn it down? I thought dinosaurs extinct goes. Boba love beginning season where nobody has any idea. Why I'm talking like that for during each? Okay, everyone everyone's trying to figure out why is Ben's to read so different from Ronnie's. We have to Vince to read is actual Duri. He so I think he sound just like 'cause and I just like her million accent. So just try and put as many accents and kind of us missed out fire to to serve it to you. I really hope that goes and buys a new car that we can have the scene once again. It up with you. Only. And of course, I'm I'm hoping the cameras are rolling for Jagger's birthday. To you. Two. It's all about that soft clap at the home or. So yes, she's doing like her trademark diary. And leaning back in her chair with her face. All crazy. It's amazing. And I feel like her strap has some sort of like, I don't know what's detailing you call that it's sort of like negligee ish or I don't know Lisi. It's sort of looks like a giant. Caterpillar was flattened by a tire and then used to hold up address. Dorito? And I'd I'd. Okay. So let's move to the ministerial from this. It's starting to big white screen. Okay. This white three to one. Our very own private island. Dan. Ended on Renna ended on after miniter thing. Okay. So their legs wide open. Yes. So let's see what we looked at her face in that shot. Jesus Christ the lights are blinking on. And off look. Oh, my God this shot if terrifying of Lisa falls back on Cao and spreads her legs. And you can you know, everything and. Oh. That's amazing. This is never gonna this is gonna hotly Serena forever. And guess what? I'm going to be the ghost to do it. Oh my goodness. This is this. I'm sending this. I'm sending this text it to you. Even though you're looking at it. I wanted. It's the same thing. I sent this to you. And I said Christmas cards. Oh, wow. Okay. So back to the beginning of the white screen. It is I we see can popping champagne and Banda pump dogs. I imagine. So all the thought it was a trophy store. No. Live is dogs would never be anywhere. Other than dogs. They're bunch of tea cakes out that I'm I'm assuming Pandy put out there. Poor pandora. Oh. Yeah. There are a little Tiki macaroni. There's champagne going everywhere. The some little dog terrified I feel like this is not professional behavior by Ken. It's really not and guess guess who has to pay for that volunteers because, you know, Lisa don't pay people. Yeah. It's like wasn't Raquel volunteering their last season cleaning up the shit. Yeah. They get a bunch of dumb dumbs too. She's like would you like to be unreality Tel-Aviv Joan? But here's your Titian enough. Some pooh-poohed maybe anti Komen will stop by for a new Toby? And then we have a shot of now we have Kyle is like speeding down the road with her daughter, just like Porsche, go kart type the I hate Kyle. Honestly, I can't with. I don't like I don't like Kyle Maurizio like they're like their fascination with speeding in sports cars with their children. And this one has no doors a little golf cart type thing. But it looks like a stupid. It's actually Negara's stupid car that probably cost like one hundred thousand dollars and first of all it doesn't even have for real. Okay. It's like it's like shit version of of Christopher Nolan batmobile. Yeah. It's stupid. It's hand or it looks like a bumper car kind of which is fitting because I if I saw her I would like wanna try and run off the road and slam into a rail. I feel like they should be there should be helmets involved. I feel like are they wearing seatbelts were and seatbelts. You know, I have to say. Our it's just outfit. Kyle war announced it that's like seatbelt blend in friendly. Welcome to Cowles dress. Welcome to Kyle's Wardrope. Okay. Show is wants to have a she basically she basis her looks receipt belts. She'll be encountering during the day. Safety devices, she'll have to endure I'm impressive. She knew she was going to get a close up of her hands. And she didn't put a gigantic diamond because usually cows money forward. She's like a second money. Yeah. That's true. Hello is Lisa. Serena. We even had coming up you'd better listen to Fabi. So then we see a vote, and we see a bunch of women doing like a chorus line. There's Renna that's how I would be a rocket laying down. Yeah. That's that's exactly right. It's gonna it's Camille. And then it's just use goes to Donald ladies yon, some kind of a -cation someplace somewhere and then like a tennis ball in the back staring at the confused. Only see that. Oh my God. She is who is that. I don't know. Joyce tennis balls that lady back there Wilson dynasty Jesus? Well, she's not going to get run down in a crosswalk some bright colored heavily. You'll never. We see just more like, I'm assuming that's like the Caribbean or something. And then we see a shot of Kyle. I'm sorry. Erica Jane being hoisted by her gaze at a performance. Yes. Yes. Standard. A did. You by any chance see that Kenya commented on Eric his post Erica had posted lily to tell around slowly witnessing and under Kenny wrote, so bad not even funny. Kenyan. I think she meant that as like your bad ass bitch. I don't think it was. It was not shade. I think it was agreed upon by the internet. Kenya was not being shady. Oh, I thought Kenny was like I'm still here. No. No. She was just she it was actually complementary moment for her. Okay. Never mind. God. I'd like to Kenny for a second. That felt so weird. I'm so glad you corrected that thank you. I think some of these dancers go to my gym. Okay. There's there's Renna. Doing like a windshield wipers their legs. That's just too amazing. Okay. Well, you like I'll do it. Then is Doritos in her her little bikini. I guess this is a bit definitely guys. She's heavily contoured. It's it's like an aggressive aggressive. Contouring impressed play. Okay. Okay. Under. Swan. Laurel rocks? No, saul. I love the Hanky hates Kyle. This is my favorite running thing. My favorite running joke in this is Hanky literally hates guile and tries to bite her every time Caesar bribes, her chemicals hilarious every single time. Well, maybe he's just like gosh. On that seat belt. He hates Kyle. It's so funny. And so this shot is Kyle running across Lisa's bridge. Because Hanky is tried to bite her Kinkel. He's like. He's like. Hates her. Hanky hates Kyle running. We've heard you tries to bite her. But this time we really see him try to bite her is so good. Yeah. While panky just watching panties the one calling the shots. Thank he's like that bitch there that she wants to destroy you should do something about it. And I will I will. So good. Then we get toned coma swan and ASO or now we have the women. That's when Carl says give me a Rolex on the rocks. No salt, pretty funny. They're all they all peer to be sitting there all sitting at dinner Margaritas. I'm assuming this isn't that tropical location? We saw a bit of. Did you hear that? Yes. Damage like now, you need it to yourself. See he meets himself. All right. Still have the stupid cough. Maybe it's because my medicine is Marlboros. Yeah. Okay. Where do it? I was just making really uninteresting comments about how they could possibly be. And I was like I think they're in that tropical location guys in our life enrich now, I'm like Margaritas and light flowers and decided in the tropics we can all arrest easily. Now, I think they are go with that. Thanks, okay. Planes take off three to one. A hot air balloon will be tricky. Outfit. Noon Carl's full of jokes trailer. Just really say. Luxury jokes. Okay. Let me see vacuum. So they're on up EJ. I don't know. Who is I'm assuming Erica Jane's, probably because she seems to be standing like I'm gonna give a toast now while I'm Tom's jets plead available dabid stunts lack makeup at a cream colored which that. Yes. So far, we can see Camille Denise Lisa Renner, Terry. And there's one person the corner really just still have that look on her face doesn't. They're all cheers with champagne and Ted. He'd like to Jews now note that Denise Richards, seems to have a different type of glass, actually is not Denise there's some other hand that's coming in with the different type of glass. I think that's teddy. I'm teddy. No. Oh, no. I see what you're sets. They're actually found glasses. I have to say there are few non flutes the at Kyle's one who who wears hats inside. So it's like. Yeah. Teddy still has new girl. Look, well, I know him the new girl here. No. It's your second season teddy and Camille still trying to get on the show. She's like bounding over the seat. She's like. So now, we and Camille still didn't get her diamond for thing. I mean, the girl got remarried her house got burnt down. What does the woman have to do people give her a diamond, I know so we then see like the tropics? And then there's like this close up on boobs, who's boobs. Do we think those are I'm going to say I'm gonna say Camille that goal to who's got freckled? Loops I don't think red. They may actually belong to anyone because there's a touch of red in that hair. Other is we'll keep an eye on feels like three winding boobs beers at Renna. No, I can't Renna. Case bathing suit, oats, Camille, I think you were right because Camille has only leaving suit. Yeah. Camille, the type that would have like a bathing suit that like it's coming up to us be like. I'm an underwater. A faceless. Camille. Oh, who's this? Crazy face lady. When they're cheers Margaritas to read what the glasses is that Renna no injury both have glasses on. But then his cheers his other Blunk. You know what Jane? It's Erica, Jane Renna and Dery is Erica. Jane, Camille, Raina investory. Yes. To read in the eighties sweatband thing. Yeah. She's terrible. Okay. Then then they go to downton abbey. Yeah. This is down Abby. This is. I guess the France trip that Lisa chose not to go on. And in fact, if you see them all standing on the balcony, no Lisa, although I guess the whole cast isn't there either? Bunch of way is that the one. There two three four God. Are they already showing the end of the year trip? I thought it was the end of the year trip. She didn't go on that saying. Other. So traffic's one is probably like the early season trip. That's the one. That's like, hey, so my dog has a trainer who's made is from Jamaica. And I thought let's go to make sure. The early season. What is always so contrived their control contrite? We haven't seen each time. Let's go to the Trump IX river of CO was born. Okay. So we see them walking through France and staff. Okay, with I star with their probably in Hawaii for Camille sweating is that we're maybe it's a why they got married in Hawaii think. Yeah. Okay. So I mean start from Kyle in this doorway ready. Yeah. Really make you feel like you're in Europe. We are in Europe during. Just my accent. It's all makes you like having dreams. The place to tame vintage jeeze if away. I love the way they use euros here. Makes you feel like you're in Europe. Finally, the land invented the freedom fry. Not as good as hunger conga. Is your up to read? Classic. Okay. Okay. So they'll just a quick shot of is wedding. So as Kyle some sort of brides may as she looks like she like the woman of honor, first of all she's wearing black which she's wearing black with the lace of allays Nikola, Taj. Yeah, cover whatever. Which is really weird. It's like an Italian funeral which I mean Camille getting married again. She looks laureate actually. But that's just seems very dark, and then she has a flower crown and just wearing a clutch that says mrS human ski. Yes, I I'm guessing Camille gives them all like persons with their name or something. But I love the way Camille struts towards her wedding. She's she's doing to Camille store here. I come. TD has dance. I don't want these cheap house at my wedding. Press play. Right to Richard visuals. Erin having sex right up there with my favorite board. So that's Erica talking to the niece about that. Yeah. Okay. We get it. Okay. So Denise once they're in season, the water, and I guess they're like do a wild things exit from the water. She does she's like walking sexy in this kinda trips in the water, which hopefully saying something about who Denise is gonna be this year. Yeah. Erica's wearing in the next shot erica's wearing an apron to show her new her new single called butter, love and hard work. But I love and hard work gonna make you realize what? But a love and hard work. I don't. Richards looks like she's barely retaining anything that Ourika saying, I don't even know whatever saying like out having sex is like my pond she having lash back, so Charlie Sheen at this moment. She's like outset Philis m Doreen kinda sitting behind them like to laughing with you. And it was paying attention. I don't understand how many layers supposed to wear today. I what t-shirt and something over the t shirt. And now have an apron a laugh because I laugh, but it's very uncomfortable. For me goes. Shot to Beverly beach. Mccain butter love Makina over the other bikini bikini. Beverly kitchen. Am I might so? Yeah. The more the more look back and forth of Denise and Dery laughing. The the clear becomes that. They were not listen to at all. Look at them. Like, you're listening to me at all where you as in politics. She's like I love cold. It's up to send to me. I love I do love sheep that's been shown as Poland. I'm sorry appealing fellow. Okay. Denise is getting married. Someone who was way cute or two weeks before she got married to him. I don't know what she did to this guy. But there's before and after pictures, you can look up on the Hugh at some people just shouldn't grope facial hair. Yeah. But I do support his bold choice not brushes hair at all for his wedding. Sports. Yeah. They're like, you know, what this will maybe this is sponsored by Lamey and they're kissing in front of an Infinity sign but in this symbol. I mean, this setting is just an overturned hate to me like, hey. Trevor Nate, I'm assets get back. Fell over it was like a Shaam Bray eight or whatever or Hombre Schambori. I don't remember giambra. I don't know. But I can't leave right up to sit through two different weddings this season. That's really hard for me. Well, you know, thankfully, they'll probably last as long as preview. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. We're press play. If I got it so quickly shotgun wedding. She befriends. Converting coverages. How could you talk about guns at a time like this when I have dogs that need to be adopted? Yeah. So kyle. Cheers. Oh my goodness. Brandy glam Ville good. Lord, brandy landfill. She's watching in in a. She looks like the leg a Christmas story turned into a lap from the MAC. She does that is a really good upsurge Asian she's wearing fishnets fishnet dress. And then I think she's taking out a river to to get this belt on. It's it's like a it's like pieces of Barbie doll put together, but like different Barbie dolls. You know what I mean? Yeah. Different good. She has a giant poor of booze. She's cheers into Denise, Richard. All my God. Look at that glass of wine. I believe I'm happy to see brandy on high. No. It was so weird to be like I got like excited to see brandy Glanville. What we loved her season one. She was good. And even she just turned. She has turned in an ugly way. I didn't like it. And then when she admitted to making stuff up at the at the reunion just to be interesting. I was like, yeah. This bad. Yeah. But that said over the years, I mean, she was really fun on big, brother. She was really going to big brother. We had a really fun time going on her podcast. Yeah. She seems pretty RAD. So now, I'm excited. My god. Please don't fuck this up. Please. Don't fuck this. She's only beyond for like one scene. It'll be like a gills Aaron thing, you know, like one scene test run. Yeah. I'm they'll just give her a trial. Okay. Okay. Denise doesn't look very happy to see her. But she is hanging out with her is she hanging out with her. Yeah. It's a shade. Denise gives her Rambis sits down. Just don't feel like Denise feels very present. I don't think Denise really knows what she's doing. I think she was going to Chipotle lay. Was like brandy. Why she's like are you the new vegan shredded, pork? Are you this launch rice, I ordered half you in a bowl the great? Thanks so much. Okay. Ready? No. Tala Wayne comes slack. Jack. Little bit like Schnoor. He right now. Mainly calling your job. So a lot of costumes a lot of cautious Halloween and all so, yeah, I lease arenas dress like Mahmud a in red and black. I'm ready to really to Renna in this wig pixie wig. Right. Would you say it's a pity pick pixie like human resources wig. It's her power me mohair for when she is a Meemaw. Yeah. Like twenty years to go. And then Erica is serving up some pink Marilyn air. I guess who cares. Okay. Then next is Kyle as playboy bunny. What's I feel like it's not really the right time to be a playboy. I just feel like. Maybe a couple years late with that women's not as cool right now and portions just sitting there like fanning herself that's Porsche Porsche just looking at her. Mom's early difference. Yeah. And then Kyle has her own style game. Now right at that. He's a new gay the new gay and then Lisa rent lease arenas dressed as Eric. Dane, just she looks like vampire, Erica, Jane. And erica. Jane herself is now dressed as a member of cats. She's like really original I'm gonna wear leopard prints and Kelly is my have no girl ever wears this costume ever on Halloween old. You know, his sad. When Doreen looks just like you next. She's like the other cat. Yet. I mean, you kitty kitty. Mrs missed often. These usually a Halloween is when people with hot bodies dress like sluts with cat ears. But this is Eric is time to actually dress like a total Hooker. And she's wearing a turtleneck bodysuit. Hell. To reads cat thing is kind of Larry it's like the for some reason. It's it's it's giving me a little bit of Ellen green hair in little shop of horrors, but like plat like, silver platinum, and then there's just like a lot of white puff years. And there's a bartender in the background like God. I graduated from Juilliard bartend to these bitches. Then we see Lisa watching to getting her hair done at Lisa's. Like, I'm dressed like one of the helmets co Q buying styling. The hidden room. Robe get it's a memory like ten. Lisa tell are you look like snooky anti means her dogs. Yeah. I wonder if that Kaftan is one of the ones that Kyle got them in Dubai. Very pretty I wouldn't down in those got a lot of Jules. Yeah. I miss our Patricia kaftans. We're so comfortable. I know what the hell Patricia, and we have to order sub. Yeah. Are ready? I set he been on this journey with me to the highs and lows. Okay. So I that's Camille who's talking to everyone who looks bored chameleon on even really cast member start making tests. Yeah. And then God bless her heart her house burns down. So we see some of that. She doesn't want to sit and pretend to be nice to someone who has her own. Oh, Erica standing up for debris, which is weird. Yeah. And she's like she's so matches making like blow job face. Like her mouth is like being her mouth is into an aggressive rectangle sh- master rectangle reference from earlier. Yes, she's kinda crazy liquor. She looks like Jane chruch hausky. Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. I'm also getting some does look exactly like in Basel's weird. She also getting like notes of what's your name Wendy from the goldbergs choosing, bro. Wendy, MC mcclendon Covey. Yeah. Well, so here's the thing with Erika. So the rumors have been you know, that her marriage is on the rocks. She doesn't live with Tom anymore. She's saying in that studio that she's been showing us her dance studio, or whatever blah up and now she's doing the show to save her money in making a scape or whatever. I don't believe that firstly. But I'm starting to because I'm suspecting that she's giving Mikey her talks needles. Just being like, yeah. Daily no saving some money. Because one of her is is literally half closed right now. An and never opens again. It's like he totally missed. So what did what did she say again? And may not have. She might be talking about Kyle Richards to rally she has victim face. She's like look at mimic then being victim. Drops bang hanging down the sodomy face. It's been roamed. Okay. I'm gonna press play. Judge on our court for the rest of his life nine know what it feels like to be wrongfully accused somebody God. Camille games an argument about breath. And this is going to be hilariously. Oh my God. I mean Camille putting herself into every important discussion in America. I mean that is hilarious Lisa's like he is gonna be a Arcor rest attorney and the earth ends and the puck. That's pot. Camille, I know what it's like to be unfairly accused I kept calendars to. Meanwhile, Kyle's calculations naked at the end of the table, the flowers are blocking her dress. So we just see bare shoulders. They wanna look at me on naked over here. Guy. She's like I've got Jaro air. No clothes. Teddy's like well. I really liked this chicken. Wow. I'm keeping keeping my promise. Eat low calorie tonight. I wonder what they're arguing about at Lois. Is there too by the way, Lois wedged in between Doritos? And is that Camille? No, it's not I don't know who that lady is next to Lois. Oh, you're right. That lois. I think it's Lois. Yeah. It's lois. And that Hagrid. That's why I think it's commuters really tall friends that I call Hagler. He's really tall. But there's no Camille there, of course. Yeah. Meals talking about already blanked Camille out. I was like no silence. Silence. Yeah. And then there's somebody else there to another brunette talking to hat grade. Maybe if someone else's it looks like Bethany Frankel, but it's not it. Does it looks like? Asian lady. Like, what does this jello like seriously? What leaving right? Let's break Hannah. How we're talk about like Brenton can I have another glass of water, please. Okay. Okay. Let's most press play. Wrongfully accused somebody was still keep by mission. I'm okay. Snapple lisa. This is Lisa savannah pump talking to to read and to Kyle. It's a summit of the of the three Kyle's ready to play because they're clearly Villarosa and Kyle's wearing all pink to be like, no, I'm pinky now. Not only that but I'm hot pink. Yeah. So it's so Lisa holds up these texts from teddy and people in the internet have pointed out that if you look at the way Teddy's name is ridden in Lisa's contacts. When she printed out it says teddy Mellencamp, and there's a poop emoji. Is that true? I think I would actually not be surprised if it was like horse riding. I mean, actually look up horse Ryan emoji because people on the internet are going crazy over it. My God I have to see this hold on let me enlarge. I'm gonna I'm gonna look up horse riding emoji. If my phone's like not detected my fingers like who is touching. That is. Oh, it's either also looks like the snake. Snake emoji? But it's not colored and the it's a color print out. Okay. I'm going to think words, I don't think it's a pupil Mudgee because it only has the swirl on the left side the middle swirl on the right side. It doesn't have it. I would say if it's any emoji. It's the snake. But the snake is oriented. Here's the thing. An argument could be made for the horse writing emoji because that's what teddy does, and you could sort of it is a horse riding emoji. You know? When look at my phone to you guys. This is very important suggest be patient. We're doing forensic emoji. Yeah. Order one. We don't want to be savannah pump to be falsely accused of putting poop emoji after teddy Mellon camps. Where would we find the horse horseriding emoji horse, and they just gave me a horse. Go into the workers section. Oh. At the soccer ball section. I mean, I I'm smiley nipple animals in nature. Oh, you did. You see the snake one? Just you know, I know that's probably not it. But just you see what I mean? But I don't think it's a snake when either because the snake. Okay. That I'm going to bring back and we're going to maybe in motion. I'm gonna play it right now. You'll hear it again. I've activity was still keep by a mission. I'm sure it is. I think it's the horse. I think you're right. It's a horse writings. Yeah. I'm looking at it right now. It doesn't look like that. This is hard to tell you. I don't think it's the I don't think it's the poop at the very least. I don't think the poop anymore. I'm going to say, it's the horse riding. I'm gonna go with you. I hate that the answer because I would like people more. Yeah. Now, we eat her texts. It says your resume. No. Says I read it. He says everything because somebody says me you need to call me today. Everything. Okay. Whenever free go. You're going to die and. And then in annot that said, she phones teddy or something. So we would may weather techs. I judging hands I just can't at least it says something like, I just can't German here. She goes, I from does you say, I just can't tax. I just can't. Yeah. Yeah. And then after their phone call she writes teddy rights, I am in total shock that is insane. Double X glee. I feel sad for her kids and that poor dog. And then Lisa all cap says I. No, nurse assistant behavior. That's fine. As to. So that's all we see Lisa's printed. This on you know, poster board. Yes. With her low percentage battery also yes. So she's presenting the evidence about this situation. Clearly something about the dog that the kids in the dog. We'll say yes, she's saying here she thinks somebody has lied my own mission. The end of the bottom of she's and you can tell she's angry. She's wearing dark dark blue indigo. So she's not in the mood. Okay. Ready? Yeah. I'm sure it was very annoying that I made a good point. Teddy. Sure is very annoying on may two point. And of course, to read so annoying that she's wearing a tee shirt of boy, Boy, George and she's trying to match what? Boy, George's doing. Got a hand. And she's got her hands out to. Listen here. I'm boy, you will listen to me knock only jolt. I'm thin. Young boys olds he can be feed fever. Okay. A season of lives. Okay. We're back to this tax the now now now it's funny because now the lies really big like, oh, it's too big. Can you squash that down? So whereas unbelievable was like squashed horizontally. This one's squashed vertically. Yes. I love your thoughts saving. I it's important. Okay. Ready? It's not the live him. I kind of feel like okay, we have to talk, Kim Richards. Oh, oh, I thought that was his ambi- Mexico. Blond lady. No, actually, no. The blonde lady is Kim Richards. That might be Cambridge's trying to eat the nieces brains. Like, yeah. Me he'll lack a good little buyer nut. Yeah. The I think that's teddy as the lady from the suicide squad or Cameron west cot. And then. Yeah. Kim is just Kim's. Just I think she just like wandered, and she's just wearing little like a pinstripe on samba me. Yeah. She's I got Pat on Jami about that. Mickey rooney. Denise is like again like we say. Kim tells her that the lab listen midler, just like it is not a lie. And I'm not that midler. I. Shooting training. She leaves. I think the news Richards has wringing her hair, by the way and little kitty cat Lai variation. Okay. We have two more kitty cats here we've got to reits kitty cat, which again, it's white kitty cat. She just like the perfunctory like whiskers and dot on her nose. But then action in a bed. It's not to say, she has no belt. And then you've got Camille who's who is dressed like a cat woman. She's just shaking your head like. So have setting. Yeah. And Kim's like, yeah. Wire just like gives her the handed Waddams, you're Marianne twin, I know. It's a lie. It's a lie. Commits a costume party. Okay. I feel like this is how she rolls out of bed every day. Yeah. Just like came to this party. Yeah. Her hair just gets big and eighteenth century. Okay. I kind of feel like the two of you are incorrect. Okay. Four liking this Erica, Dan, Eric again is in MRs Girardi close. She's like classic low glass. Doc about under wag about. I think the pill. Uber. Oh, she's telling teddy because she's saying Lisa teddy hits probably against the reach. And then I don't know. But he's like, I'm Terry. And then Kyle just give me a face like, well, let me see I'm showing you my watch which is very expensive, and I also color coordinated with the centerpiece. So who's in cahoots with who? And I still insist on wearing sizes three to small even though I'm in ready. Like, why did you do that to yourself? Erica looks like she's having her own version of clue she's like adblocker ahead of this mansion because I am missed a body. Give a fuck. Yeah. Back in all of that. Entity. The closeable teddy being like she's being mean to me again, I'm teddy at he's like other double excedrin headache. Took you took took new print was supposed to be little yellow different. Better turns on just little yellow different burnt. Whenever headache. I put one hand my temple double excedrin headache. Put two hands to my temples. Daddy, I'm all in. I'm a headache. Okay. Good. Bye. Go. Meanwhile, Ken is in a musical. Fucking. You're a fucking. Bever seen can yell like that you're fucking liar. Kyle Kyle say do you not remember two years ago? When James when when Kensit James all monkey Spock out. Spoke kid what he wasn't Arca. Good. Bye. Oh, good. Right guy. Car. Season of heartbreak now, we're back to squish telephone hot break and known responsible phones. Season of tear, the fonts you are little snake. The mingled really. Camille. Oh my God. You guys this is why you don't talk politics your friends because you'll get a Camille in your face. Exactly. Yeah. Love cross eyed Camille, she is just so crazy looking look at her in in. Look at her right and renaissance face cross eyed, not even just cross-eyed when is looking down, and when is looking kinda up and she's like. The mean girls on now. I feel bad because Camilla's hair looked so good. But it's really rented hair that steals the show. Like, I would not argue with Rene when she's had that hair like Reina's like. I sort of feel like an assassin right now. Baby. What would you be mad at me, even came like, a Fox News reporting just to make you like me? Meanwhile, there's like a sort of Hawkeye the backgrounds just area can be which I like. I he seems like he could be hot. I have to wait till he's not blurred out. It looks like peak as little brother you ruined. Once you're on aja aren't festival bit? Oh, no nothing about that guy. I'm not talking about the PK, Matt. No. There's does it earlier who's hotter? Oh, I I don't care. Oh, yeah. I mean. Yeah. Better you better than the fake peak? Okay. Ready? Yeah. How can you say you love me Joan? I I love to read just like can't understand that a moment is totally fake and tries to push it. Is the truth? What did you say? You're seeing mirada. Nah. Something's weird going. I feel like this scene, which it says, you're right. I don't love you. It looks like it's like backstage. There's a sitting there. There's a camera setup while they're in a restaurant. Oh, oh, that's true. I don't know. What that is. It must have been a little bit. Yeah. Maybe that's James is DJ station. Outing. How can you say you love me? She Joan I'm not responsible abandons actions. Cows really mad because she's wearing pendulums. Yes. She's wearing to dangling testicles how God and she's also gotten her votes in the middle of her forehead in its forced the veins on this like the middle side of her forehead or she's been lying face down on a couch. I can't really tell and he's also doing this thing with their fingers mummy a-. Recover. Yeah. Those are hilarious. I wish you were those in that time car, she. On clunk clunk clunk clunk. That's. I'm not and say what issue. The senate. I don't care. What people say about Lisa van? This is why I still liked her. Yeah. Everything in here. I'm already on her side. I don't care. This is gonna be a rough season to wreak at because people are going to hate my guts. Yes healing. I'm going to be a STAN, that's okay. That's part of that's part of being a stand is taking a stand. That's right. Stephen king's the staff when a man couldn't the middle aged gay person sitting in his kitchen couldn't give up his obsession with Lisa vagabond. When the entire internet was against. Well, on that note that brings us to an end of this. Beverly Hills trailer traffic UN's. Aw, thank y'all for listening. Go to watch dot com and buy tickets to our shows. And what else is there? Ronnie. Glad to be back in any a-. This was super fun. We will be back for the rest of the week and back to normal. 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"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast addition of Watch. What happens live with me Andy Cohen. She started. I am Sam was Sean. Penn and Renna says she has a thing for old bald men. It's watch what happens. Live at home with Erica Jane and Dakota fanning now. Welcome to watch what happens live at home from the Hamptons Andy Cohen, betting your face probably hurts from screaming every time. An old friend popped up on tonight's Beverly Hills. Speaking of please welcome. My first guest real housewives of Beverly Hills Erica Jane Erica Haning. How are you? I'm great great to see you. My next guest is returning to a previous role when the alienist angel of darkness premiers on TNT this Sunday I know, she's returning here mainly to talk housewives. It's our friend. Dakota Fanning Hey. Dakota. Got My my mart just like tonight's episode. I sure did yes, yes. Are you psyched to be on with Erica tonight? I'm so excited to be on with my fellow Georgia Girl Erica we. That's right. That's right. Two girls right here tonight. In honor of NBC Universal Three Streaming Service. Peacock I am mixing up. I'm excited about this. A shady bird cocktail shady. Shady? Birds, this is Tequila triple sec I've got gotta be careful with this lime juice a little cease salt and pink lemonade. I should've have. Really good. That hits the spot almost as much as the thousands of hours of hit movies and shows on peacock, including your favorite Pravo shows go to peacock TV DOT COM to sign up and start streaming now you don't WanNa. Miss It. Erica a few weeks. We haven't seen you in a while. I gotta go back for a minute because a few weeks ago. Rina said that you're type. is quote old launch and bald? People on twitter were dying at that and also doctor got a very shady description. You said Erica's type under his. Under him when he came in. What was your reaction to all that? Where is the lie in that statement there's. I. Mean it is what it is i. do like them old rich walk. I liked them. Anyway. They come over. Paul Teams TV my thing. Yeah I can't get mad at that you'd right. We'll tonight Erica and the crew mixed it up with many figures from Beverly Hills. House rise passed, so her immediate future involves answering my shady questions about I. Actually these are for both of you, because I would love DAKOTAS opinions here. To what did you all make of lease arenas? Sit Down with Denise Denise saying in her confessional that she can no longer trust Renault. Dakota I'm very curious for Lisa to see the actual footage of Denise's conversation with her daughter about the incident. You know what I mean. I think like it just it feels very dramatic and like time to let it go I I don't think that anyone has done. Anything. Wrong here, it's very. I'm confused as a viewer I'm still a bit confused. What did you make of Denise saying that that she couldn't trust Renna? Hey, listen. We all have our own point of view. I know for a fact. You can't trust Lisa Reynoso. You know they're gonNA. Have to work it out and I'm sure that you know in the coming episodes. We're going to see that happen. You know for sure that you can trust her. Nigerian okay right? Okay I couldn't hear what you said. What did you make of PK trying to discuss with Aaron? You know the virtues of staying out of the women's business. I thought it was then was great advice. Bill deaf ears. Right Right, WHAT'S DAKOTA? What's your? What's been your reaction to? Errands you know trying to defend these with the women. Listen I appreciate that I. Get that I also think that anytime. Like the only husband there starts inserting himself into the conversation with girlfriends. It's a recipe for an absolute disaster, so I think there needs to stop coming to the parties or just like. Behind his own business, the actions to lease arena going up to Camille and saying she's an a hall on twitter. Well, she cleared that up right away. She wants rated care business in what's right out, so you know? Hey, that's all. She felt how how about teddy not even wanting to engage with Camille at all? Another one took care of business. Now, they're go. Dakota, who are you most excited to see tonight return? Oh! Well I mean I was definitely. My my ears perked up when brandy walked in obvious. that. I was waiting for that. You know you had Kris Jenner. A lot of people popping in it was it was. It seemed like a fun night? We have some viewer questions I wanNA. Get to Erica number one question for you. Do you know what it's about? Probably you got a lot of crap for this on twitter, Diana said. Do you think it was appropriate to say? Denise's teenage daughters knew what a threesome was probably had one. It was you flipped out at I. Lean for even mentioning your son well. I if I was talking about teenagers in general and talking about this state that teenagers about. About sex. They're having sex. That is true, so that's what that statement was I did not bring my kids into it. When I lean, said you know it's not like she killed her kid. You know that was an out like way out statement and so I reacted the way. I didn't apologize for that. So it's not really hypocritical. My mind but I guess a lot of people thought so. Were you surprised at the blowback? You got from that comment. I mean I not really i. just you know, 'cause. It didn't mean to me. What other people wanted it to me got it. Dakota Matt. W said since you worked with Tom Cruise around the same time. What did you think of Tandy Newton's comments about working with him on mission impossible to? Know I actually know Tandy very well to have worked with her husband directed me in a movie and I I love her, and you know that was. That was her experience I. I wasn't there so I can't speak to it. Erica Mickey from Hershey Pennsylvania given the recent shade thrown by Camille. When she implied that you use the show for self promotion, how do you respond? Greats I mean. Let me say something. We're all here to you know this is part of my life. What I'm doing and so that's what we're tracking. Chicago happens to be a big part of it this season. well on the alienist Dakota plays an investigator in the eighteen hundreds New York, but for her next case shows about to face a community where most everyone is on their second or third face. It is time to take a crack at some unsolved. Her Stories Dakota. I want your perspective on some of the biggest mysteries and crimes to hit the housewives. Okay, what do you think Kim? Richards was talking about when she said to Let's not talk about the husband. Based on, Reynoso reaction. I'm certainly not going to talk about the husband. Right you've been. Celebrated Your Twenty First Birthday on? vk Serenity. Is Great, yeah do you believe that Sonia? Did Indeed Party with Madonna and John John Kennedy all the time I believe that she believes it so. I would like to I would like to think that it did happen, but hey. She, she seems very crystal. Clear memory of it. Okay, this one's going back. Here's an unsolved her story for you Dakota. was responsible for the stripper gate rumors that Melissa used to strap. You know I think that even if she wasn't responsible for it, she didn't dispel it. Certainly quick enough and went along with it for far too long and I did think that was a little Shady Shady Perry. Orange County boy, these are unsolved mysteries for. How involved do you think Vicky was in Brooks's cancer issue? I mean I wanna say not at all. Because that is the worst thing you could possibly. Lie about so I. Mean I don't want to I. I don't I don't know I. WanNa say not at all. Okay Abacha Beverly Hills last question. Do you believe Lisa Vander pump bequeath any stories to radar online equate? Listen I. You know that I had my sweet sixteen at Villa Blanca. Before the show even started to air, Pandora was the in charge of the Party and Jason. Lifson Gygi showed up so I I love wigs us I can't speak. I can't speak ill affirms very good, okay tonight, a few of the women accused of summoning invisible Paparazzi with the power of remind. I'm more interested in who might summon real Paparazzi with the mysterious power of her phone. It is time for a long time. No Paparazzi Erica Dakota I'm going to give pairs of familiar faces. You say who is more likely to call the pats on themselves. More likely to call the bumper artsy. Sheena Shea or Melissa gorgon ladies. Sheena. WHO's more likely to call the bumper Lindsay Lohan or Scott? DISICK WHO's more likely to call the Paparazzi Ana? Rosa or star Jones Oh my word. That's a battle. Erica you take that one. On. We'll star. were. More likely to call the `Paparazzi Reynaud or Kris Jenner. I've never. I'm staying out of this because I don't know the either one of them ever have I drew so yeah, I don't. I mean I don't I don't know that I don't know about any of these. Alright thanks for playing little call Razzi if that was the name of the game as a child. As a child star of Harvey the Scott Allens. I read honestly. Hey thanks peacock. Child Storage Kota, fanning followed in the tiny talented footsteps of Kim and Kyle Richards among others, and since she was starring opposite Denzel Washington while most kids, our age were collecting beanie babies I her to flex about her fame with the gloede fanning. Okay, so Dakota you the most famous person in your school. You must have been. I, mean I suppose yeah I suppose there weren't any other asset intense for you. Know I mean I went to a private school in Los Angeles. That's the entertainment industry, and is a you know the backdrop for La, and so I went to I went to school with you know people whose parents were maybe in the business in some chanting, so it wasn't like I was a complete Unicorn. Do any celebrities ever pick you up from school or come to your games or anything? Oh, that's funny. No, but my my sister when she was working with Sofia Coppola on the movie somewhere, Stephen Door used to pick her up from school as part of their rehearsal, he would. He would go to her. Pick her from school and they drive around. La like getting. I love him by the way he was. Adamant recently, who gave off a more warm and fuzzy paternal vibes, onset Tom Cruise Deniro or Denzel Washington. Oh Wow. All in their own way I think Tom Woods. I had like well. Bob Near you had a birthday on both of those sets, and they went above and beyond win. Cold Stone Creamery had just was just sort of thing and like. Tom Stevenson they'd like brought in the marble. Slab like onset, and had the people like making the ice cream for my eleventh birthday. It was very funny, very. Well what was the best, and then you spent your twenty first with me? Manley Serena. What was the best advice? The late Great Brittany Murphy gave you while working together on uptown girls. Oh Man, she just like taught me to always have find. She was like such a ray of light, and like had such a playful spirit so I think just she made every day special for me. She was so wonderful. What was your experience like on the set of friends back in two thousand and four. Who is your favorite friend? Well, how do I? SEEN WITH MATT LEBLANC? My senior was with him, and he was awesome. All of the I was like I was really starstruck. I met a lot of I had met a lot of people, but I had worked with like Robert Deniro and Denzel, Washington. Sort of these people were in my living room all the time. The show you know, so, it was like they felt like I felt like I knew them. More so I was like kind of even more star struck by meeting them all. Super Cute Okay, some more viewer questions Erica Monica. From Hollywood Florida wants to know what it. Tom. Think of how Erin spoke to the ladies or your interaction with with. Dakota Dakota. O. Are said, did you are l. ever hear from Kate Middleton after it came out that you two or twenty first cousins and I? We're still waiting. We're still waiting. Eric Jordan K.! What was your reaction to seeing Brandy Kyle's party and are you surprised that the two of them have become friendly again given their history no I'm not surprised. They have a Kim as their link and it was great to see Brenda. She was Brady spent time. She sure as when the pandemic at Erica was starring as Roxie Hart in Chicago on Broadway, and since she had to take her final a bit early. I thought we should revisit that role with ID that roxy part since Roxy famously saying they're going to recognize. My is my hair. My teeth, my boobs. I'm going to show my guess. Cropped pictures of housewives showing only random body part. You both try to guess who were looking out. Okay? All right here we go, who's is this is Lisa arena or Brandi. Glanville, you say up, wow, how did you get that so quick? How did you know that so quickly? Got Your A. You got your asses sculpted a couple of weeks ago. So I've got my Abbas Times. She Got A. Big Band right. Okay who's WHO's beated belly is this candy burruss or poor show Williams Porsche? Candy. All right WHO's WHO's back? Is this Cynthia Bailey or Oursel Beauvais? Garcia. Let's see. That is. Okay, whose lips are these denise? Richards or kristen take men. This is. Yet Denise. It is sinise. WHO'S ARMPIT? Is this Bethany Frankel or Sonia more good? Bethany Bethany. Stop, who's jazz hand is this Luan or Kyle Richards. ooh, statement! Jewelry could go either way. It is kyle okay one more. WHO's noses this Ramona or Shannon door? Shannon. It's. Is it Shannon? Remote Oh my. God. Erica wanted to ask you your reaction to David Foster saying in his documentary that he wouldn't ever reveal why he left. Yolanda and that it was not because she was sick. Okay, so I haven't watched the documentary, but I've been told that so. Listen I respect that it's no one else's business but David Innuendos. All right up before we get to the Mazal. Dakota you wanted to. Give a muzzle to frontieres right? Yes, my my best friends had my goddaughter a few days ago and Audrey and Max. They had popularly Georgia, and she's eighteen. Bravo Fan. Audrey and Max are huge. Bravo fans when I've been to the clubhouse in the past. Max has been once in. Audrey has come every single time and I'm pretty sure like in the hospital. Before she gave birth to popping, she was watching lasting in good. Beverly Hills? Welcome. Okay Well these are hard. Times are actual moment of muzzle comes from someone who has a hard body. Here was some quarantine health and wellness tips. It's my trainer standing. Over the bodies standing since you all stay home, guys make sure you stay at two and eating healthy. Thank you guys make sure to follow me on eastern on one fit. Underscore official for more fitness tips and don't forget to wear your mask all my God. Thank you, Danny, I love you, I. You gotTa. You gotTA. Help me with all that stuff I wanNA. Thank Erika Jayne and Dakota Fanning for being your hot questions for Darren. Madly and Michael Rapaport tomorrow at ten after Rony. Watch our after show on twitter right now. Thanks ladies. Hey, everybody! It's the watch what happens after show. You do not want to miss the alienist. Darkness premiering Sunday on TNT starring Dakota, fanning and Erica Jane Stars on the real housewives of Beverly Hills. I have a lot of questions for both of you. Erica John. Z. said. Are you over the comment? Cayo made about you not having any close friends. Where are the two of you at right now? We're fine. Listen Kylian for Kyle knows she's one of my close friends so i. don't know with talk. She was talking about but Yeah, we're past that. Okay. Dakota Lauren be wants to know how much free Marc Jacobs stuff. You got when you were the face of his perfume. Well before I did the perfume I did the actual runway collection when I was really small, and they remade everything in my side. I keep it all, so do how us. I love? Really loves shoe. He was sitting behind me of Chicago when I went. Marcus Cruel Marcus. We menas yes do. He, was. Kicking. Funny. Erica He. There was someone behind me and he was like kicking the seat to the music. He asked the one. I know I know I was like this close to turning around being like. Can you please and then we get up for intermission? I'm like. Thank God I did not turn around. I'm like boy. You're loving this, aren't you you? Ought to come. Thank you so much for coming by. It was really it was really fun. Was Kyle's apology to I'm sorry was Camille 's apology to kyle genuine tonight's episode. Erica Kendra wants to know. Shirt. Dakota, Danny from Florida wants to know. What was the most intimidating part of working with Glenn close on nine lives only gosh she. I was I the most intimidating part was just the way that was shot. It's like little vignettes, so the each each scene was like ten to fifteen pages, and it was all shot in one continuous take. So you know it was. That was probably the most nerve wracking part. We were kind of both in it together, you know. Twenty minute long. Takes. Lisa, m wants to know Erica. What did you think of Doritos flat out ignoring Camille. Yeah I mean, and we'll delete was very hurt by what Camille said last year, so I understand. Dakota Morgan am wants to know. Is there ever been a project that L. has done that you have? It liked, but didn't tell her. How my God who don't answer that? Morgan Goes Mon efficency too. So Shady I've definitely been like she was in a movie, called the neon. Demon and I almost had to leave the theater because I was so like. Some of the some of the parts of the ending. I was like I can't watch. It's too much like it was too much to see my sister you know in. I couldn't handle it. Last! Question Erica? Case, cassie piece said you agree with Renna that denise is trying to use the season to change how she came across last season. Well, it's definitely a different season I. It's definitely a different denise this season last season last season. It was happy endings and I'm chill in this year it's don't talk in undefended and so kind of. A one eighty, okay. All Right? Let's leave it there. Always a pleasure seeing both of you I can't wait to see both of you in person sometime in the. Thank you, Erica. Thank you. For. More Click, around Bravo TV DOT com. Thanks for listening to the PODCAST. Everybody hope you enjoyed the show. 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RHOBH: Don't Mess With Textses

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RHOBH: Don't Mess With Textses

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I'm Ben Mandil Kerr from the real housewares of kitchen island cartoon that's available on YouTube new episode is up right now. Go check that out. Please. Subscribe I want subscribers while them and joining me is the wonderful lovable. Ronnie karem. Hi from. From roseburg's bachelor rose podcast, which is just wrapping up its latest season. What's going on, sir? To more or we just wrapped up. Everybody thinks wrapped up our final two. Yeah. No. We didn't we reunion. We wrapped final rose. Whatever we did it after the final rose stunned. I'm obviously Lebie after finishing it. What are we what are we? We're still year at south by southwest. It's bonkers bonkers would have bunk dragging our asses around here like confused drunk potatoes. Joy. Yeah. Complaint secured office chair in my hotel room. Oh my goodness. There's a lot one. So yeah, we are still in our Janke hotel room somehow surviving barely staring at Ronnie right now. And I'm also staring at the strange grocery rack, that's in the corner of hotel room. In some weird claw thing on the wall. There's so they have their their photos on the wall decor, and they mounted them putting that double sided tape on the wall. But they didn't need tape is fully sticking out from below the frame. This is seen better days. But let's concentrate on the important things Beverly. That's why we are year to talk real house has Beverly Hills before we dive into that we are going to Cincinnati and just a few days. This has been a monster week for us. We had Sarb DC Benz out by south west go into Cincinnati. We have two shows on Saturday. The late show is sold out. We're talking real house of New York at that show, the early show tickets, we're gonna talk summer house get. Okay. Lindsey. John's Saturdays for the boys. Right. So we're gonna have so much fun making fun of the this summer house people there, even if you don't watch summer house or you're like that show is like awful. It's like, yeah. That's the point. We're going to be so fun. We are going to tear it apart as usual but enough about that about our shameless. Okay. Let's dive into the house wet. Was a real housewares real housewives of Beverly manipulation text messages. How could you like that really house of out to my heart? This is not a very promising. Open to an episode guys are trying to make me believe that Kyle deserves the center fucking diamond. But no, she doesn't how dare you. And do I really need to see? Okay. If this was real house of kitchen island car would be distinct, strain k. She would be the one that just lays there and like collects all the crap. And just in noise you forever. And you're like why is this here? I guess it needs to be here. Yeah. Everyone then you have to pick it up and like manually like wipe your finger through it to get this. Grateful for it because you need a sink stranger. But at the same time like who actually likes it like that. And you all your kind of like if I have disposal. I really need this also. Well, I don't have a disposal, and you just made me go into like Beverly Hills dreams of like having a disposal. Like, what do I have to do in my garbage disposal? Okay. How do I move up is podcasting? Do I need to do. I need to go to school too late. I think disposals Erica Jane only because she'd be like. Yeah. Plunk down to me. So what it's gone now. More on Keven her warm up. You have to keep the water going because it's so thirsty that if there's not water running through it'll dry out and start chunking out metal spoons. So that was already better than this. I see. You're welcome everybody. Every four years every four years America. Does things we gather around to watch the Olympics. We elected new president. And it seems like we send another Kyle daughter off to college every four years. How many I feel like she has way more kids than we even realize she has more babies than a hamster? Yeah. How many kids have to go to college? How many times we have to watch? Because there was also because there was Kim sending kids off to college to it's just like a nonstop stream of Kyle sending girls to college. And I don't believe in hating children. I know the thousand crazy because of course, I do but just for the sake of conversation. Let's say I don't believe in hating children. I think it's unfair. And I don't hate so FIA, but I'm confused. I feel like so fee is another Katie from or pump paroles, I'm getting strong, Katie. I'm not even going to you know, she's still a minor. So I'm just gonna like. So you only attack babies who were completely little like little little children. I'm not gonna Tak teenager whose fragile okay. I'm just saying, Katie vibes. I mean, I know that. Main. But I think it's like evident that she is picked as even Kyle recognizes herself. I think she is picked up a lot of her mom's neuroses. So it's five thirty in the morning, and Kyle is they're all packing because they're going to send Sophie off to George Washington University in Washington where we just were in was bottom value. Bottom is where towards my cousin Lorant who's at our show went there, anyway, so so fears like mom. Me pack my vanity mirror. I can't do it. I was like, okay. Good luck in college. I know and crowds like we're packing this vanity mirror. You're not just ordering. Oh, no. She wasn't you. Just order one on Amazon we can have shipped to your place, and she knew this one specifically to go to call me. Mom. Convenient narrative Amazon prime. So they're all they're all packing Alexia already done with college. It's shocking. I feel like it was just another year ago that she went off to college that these kids I don't think that I'm at so FIA necessarily. I'm just mad that they're getting older because that means I'm getting older, and I'm not older young very young and fresh been. Yes, super, and I just I time on real house as always we watch everything about nine months year after after actually happens, then it's just like, I don't know. I get confused. Will get five new faces and said eight hamsters off to college. And I can't lose one pound like how can the world teams that everybody else? Exactly. So anyways, so Alexia there. It's five thirty in the morning and Alexi has basically walking around the house drunk because she just got home from showbiz birthday or they all just got like trash Shelby. So like it hurts. I can say that. Yeah. Time to John. Why would your kids ever work? I would never fuck and work going. I mean, I don't even know Marie. I feel like he should support me because I watch him on TV. That's how rich they are. She's going to work at the agency. Probably right. She could probably work in HR and have like a like a fake job at an HR. Like, she'll be the one. That's like Alexi is going to be in charge of. Human. Personnel development, and like she just going to go from place to place, and like she she she gets show people how to use social media. Yes. She's going to check in with people. Yeah. So be like, I don't know about your Twitter feed. So then yes, now, everyone, you know that sad. Sophie, like crying. It's it's hard going off. Whatever you get rich hugging. The kid hugging the dog, and I don't I don't like change like which is why you've just like moved away from your house just because the Pula shaped like a beam. Why you're about to move again? I can't remember last season was I mad about the pool shape or was supporting the pool shape. I think you're mad at the pool safe. I thought I was mad that she was mad at the pool. So we keep changing our minds. What we're mad about? Can't remember what we're mad about this season. I'm going to support the pool shape. I think because she was like Madge. You didn't like that her? She her Pula ship like a bean, and she wants like a square pool, I think and. Furious. Yeah. Is a fairly standard pool shape. What I understand pool in girl. Like, the pool we have here at the hotel that that's the color of Pula hate the white bottom. I hate that. So ugly dark bottom of a pool. I'm scared to look at the pool here and like pool safes. It change is trying to push your friends away like these Vander pump. Yeah. Well, she likes to change because this this is good change. She standing with the center diamond now sucker. That's right. That's change. So Renton east guess what? They're doing going to the canyon. Here's my theory. They don't let Lisa Renna film anywhere anymore. She'll break a glass or she'll start putting this on busboys or whatever. The producers are really hoping she'll get bit by a rattlesnake. She's like. Me. Make fun. Wearing warm. I don't even know where we all have been at the. Again, go my God. Lisa remedy. You're too excited to go speed walk like, you know, what I love Erica Reynoso, and I love L VP too. Just like. Oh, nice talk. Didn't you renaissance like how can I make this storyline about Denise husband cheating on her immediately? So so they're talking about Aaron and stuff and Isa's like well errands divorce is final. So we're going to get married. But what's funny is that for some reason road out in my note, I go errands divorces finals? So then he's an errand are gonna get divorced. She liked it. They're already skipping. Volition of a relationship Angeles. We roll this start. Well, I'm divorced. I thought I'd get divorced again. Just get divorced that we can get that out of the way. The pain out of the way. I yes, they're going to get married. I n Reynoso. Getting married. That's trying to laugh to her baited breath. No. There was probably like a rattlesnake those about to buy our runner rattlesnake. It was like. It was like. Rattlesnake? You'd always know. It's coming not only because it's rattled. But because it would be going. How are you? How are you? It doesn't bite. You just throws a duster on you. QB snake? Are you getting? Is it Mizrahi and are such good friends? A little snake with rent with Renna hair. You rent a hair like my favorite thing. I've ever thought of I feel like Renos laugh probably makes all the rows things come out. They probably think it's like feeding time. She. I don't even know how to person. But that could go everybody. I was helping my brother. Bam. So. So. Yeah. Two nieces like you ever getting married and Renan's like what I didn't know that which is way of saying, are you crazy. That. Drop your husband off the shelter and plan to reach me. That's that's great. I'm so glad you're getting married if you're gonna own that baby. Let's focus on that. Instead of dog business. Anyway, let's talk with the dog. No kidding. His bringing the dog business up. Every seem you even this scene. You, ma'am? You know, it's impossible to understand how much I can lovely. Serena and disagree with every fucking thing. She how do I do it. She cracks me every season. I disagree. But I'm still like, okay, you're funny. But again, it's like what I said I think last week which is that like I'm fully disagreed with her. But I'm enjoying how she's like having this moment. She's like so happy. She's relishing it, and she's just like trying to like, you know, like she just trying to. Just admiring her shamelessness so God. So here we go and Duri PK's, Terry. Romeo and Juliet happening right here. She's like up on a balcony like PK PK wherefore art the PK role. Obey discontinued bring me something to eat with. Gee, maybe maybe less warring something she she Lewis said baby come upstairs. I haven't seen you today. Baby. Right there. Trust me. This is his best angle. You're looking at him from from a balcony. Okay. There's no better space selfie than the balcony angle. Okay. This is the Romeo. Juliet version where Juliet goes for fire tax. Fire like robbing everybody families like okay, we could support that the Balaj chasing friar tuck three before. So he's like you look good today. Right way. We going. Okay. All. I'm. What do you do could some please explain to me what this bitch to be paid for those suits? Okay. You don't go to Disneyland and get a hat. That's monogrammed Beverly beach, and that means you own a company. Okay. Pay your bills woman in working. Let's going on Bubba. I'm like, ooh. Like, I just really continue to hate that they co opted Bubba from Katie. And Tom I can't with bad enough there. The fact that it has spread to them and started to spread last year. Now that she's aimed Bubba to. I'm officially pissed off that we've mentioned Katie twice in this recap. Okay. This is airing up. She's invading. Jeez. So to read has not talked to Lisa since the Bahamas and even worse be savannah pump did not call or text pecans birthday. But probably also because his like pay by the month. Cellphone ran out. No kidding. Do we blame? Lisa vander. Pumper? Cricket wireless. Go. Is it Lisa's fault or that jitterbug faults go Jenner bag? He's you haven't spoken with L VP. She never cold or take Sydney, I love her, and she's a genius at manipulation and control. And I love that about there's no one better than her at manipulating and controlling people. I've been sitting here next to my next telephone aiding for it to be. But it's hard when it's my own wife. I'm like, oh, God PK you probably drove her to those with that dog in the MAC apple apple juicy juicy Lucy. Goosey DC Pusey, I know jerks, jerks, and she won't let alone pick a and we can talk about. Okay. Let's try some honesty to read who's this woman that you gave the dog to what's her name. Look like. Silly. Promises to see the youth in Asia. So so yet to retire. I just want honesty. That's all I want is honesty, which is bullshit because she's like, so that's really why don't we talk about that lady. Who chased you down on your trip and told you to pay your bills how about that? We're that. We're we're going to that. So then PK's like artist say you need to go over there. And you say I just want to apologize once but extremely humbly your modesty. And she goes do I have the same St.. Sti these that were he's like, no treat. Good because I don't even understand what it means. Anyway. So people in the hotel hate us so much. I can't believe they haven't kicked me out of this room yet. I'm like we have to go back to the extended say not or bloodstains on the day. Okay. Everyone. I'm saying it extended stay in downtown Austin had bloodstains on the do vais. All right. Good look. So so PK, then they then there's like this like perfunctory moment here where they have to exonerate cover their bases. Like, babe. Is there any scenario that Teddy's making this up and to reach like it's hard to look at someone like teddy who has so much conviction and so much angst. And so little joy in joint fullness. And not believe her you have to believe less. She's talking about time, which he completely doesn't on. This have you seen the woman to work about? I mean, if anyone knows about time, it sounds because George time time time time and time and time, you know, that song PK, Cindy Lauper, babe. So Erica over to air catas-. Now, I don't know if you've noticed on Bravo this week, but there's a lot of dogs barking at their owner to get attention or to get food. And they're always like, no, we're not giving you the latest in the strength. And I don't know why I'm bringing it up. I just wrote wise this happening on every show. We're watching Bravo. The dogs like, okay, you're not hungry enough to eat yet. And this turn is Eric this time is Erica Stearns eating downs. Because why the dogs get to eat them when they can't you know, I was like dogs. Don't really do that. They're not like bark bark, I'm hungry. Like, they're not really a character that talks you like that. But then last night we were in this bar. Did you see that dog barking high to me? I was petting this dog Sochi by the way, you can tell when I lay invades Austin with people with our fucking dog and a nice bar. Like who does the nice bar awesome? I've never seen. So she's in there, and she's like a total L A girl with her dog on the floor. And I said hi, and I patted him because I missed I was like hi bueller. I miss you. And then every time I sit up he'd go. 'cause I was turning away. So my point is I have no point except the dog steel apparently bark you when they wanted tenting they're carrying out of here. Hello. This is Lisa Renna. We even add coming up you'd better listen to it baby. Anyway. So there's like there's like a knock on the door and teddy at erica's house, which is pretty shocking considering last season. And oh, thank God. Didn't ring the dog Al because it gets stuck. And it goes on on tonight, man. I mean, I thought it was a good idea when I lost my own though. Sit there for five hours waiting for Mr. derided come onto fixing all year. At the live. You know now that they've taken down. Lisa Vander pump. All these ladies thing, the star of the show, and you know, the Erica thinks that she is getting that center diamond because she's making everybody drive to Pasadena. No one lives like that. Okay. And you must feel like you have power. If you think my ass is going to drive to Pasadena to smell your moldy rickety ass house. I would rather drive to Pasadena then to the west side. I'm just saying it's a true statement drive to Pasadena. They really isn't so much prettier. Yeah, they do. And they also although marina does as well. That's true too. So. Erica's like teddy ain't no punk. She found a voice, you know. 'cause she's she stood up to Lisa Vanda pump. That should not be like the like like serve bullshit because teddy stood up to you. Also, Erica, she said up to like a lot of people. But it only counts if she goes up against your rival that bullshit. Yeah. So she's like that a lot of Shiva you're not gonna eat. But I got an excuse because that's just a noble girl next to eat like girl. Get me one of those specis boom slamma Jamma about ask. Like, I'm I'm sure hi, I'm teddy. She was filming a workout video for all in with teddy Mellencamp. I am teddy where you don't do any set of. But then you claim you dead and someone thinks you didn't you just blame somebody else to Eric Chappell the famous chapel, which is like a thing. I guess so then they have coffee Cup in the. So now, they're they're talking about the Bahamas and everything was fun until you know, everything happened. Yeah. So now talking about this whole dog scandal again. Yeah. Here we go. Teddy's like when you sit look slip things go. I mean, like, I didn't think you really going to let things go. Oh, you didn't. So teddy is basically saying how she was gossiping. I know, but you know, what? Lisa fed me information, and I bit at which point I thought to read it was gonna come running in and just like donate teddy to Shelley turn. Ted bit. No. She's a by that she's a biter we have to give it to a family. On this show. Oh, lovely family that wanted teddy have some advanced will utility. It's in this shot from about to give you next Shelly. So yes, so teddy. Okay. Now, let's all notice that teddy is completely changing her story now teddy. No, she's busted, and that John now that she's shown a crop taxed which was total bullshit now. She knows that. I guess production is told her that can is whip out all of John lizards tax making her look like a fucking liar, which he is. And so now she's changing her story last week. I never lie. I never tell one single. I I've never told. Now, suddenly your story is well, I was being shady. I mean, I don't wanna. I had no part. I was. Yeah. I was gossiping. But now it's Lisa banner pros fault begins even though she told them. I don't mean. It'll take Betty says. Yes, she says that she and Kyle run by advantage dogs. And that teddy was supposed to gossip basically about the the dog was be brought out intended to gossip about it. She's she said she's being helped to do that. She said that they said that Lisa wanted media now, and Eric Lee, Wiley you too. Guess eric. Okay. She's like coloring by numbers over there. And she gets very dramatic response. And I was kind of like texting with them. I was being penny. I was saying sure show me the t show me the wasn't being the best person and Eric like. Bad. Ah very dramatic with. Oh and do the teddy did Mike degree. But I didn't know you have it in vitally. She's like her own detective so right now, she's like really really into. I don't think you very that the rates. I just said I hated the bit case closed. So meanwhile, over at villa Rosa Shuki has drawn the short straw from like the dogs. They're like, okay. One of us to go humbly at least today who's going to do it. So Shuki goes up, and he's like literally like humping her arm. Schnittke? My fragile right now. And then Ken comes down like. Couldn't find the button mush it again expert chess going pink plotted skins on six. I didn't want to drink have to keep it together for this meeting with Bill is. Are you going to stay like arms around grip? Grip on Coutts. I can't talk to blizzard. So John blizzard shows up and kens like how young man than buzzes off Vander pumps like she says, I one hundred percent sure nothing to do with anything. And then. On the computer printouts. She was texting blizzard and letting me get hammered and didn't anything that whole time. So this is like now John blizzard. I know I don't know you very about can you confirm for America that I don't know you Mr Robert blizzard tone, hurricane I know the term. No, you've Jon snow's. All right nor'easter. Jones sprinkling outside. Oh, are you from game of thrones? Jon snow. Britney matz. And he's like, yes. Do not know you girl gas Queen chick. Now, you're not that kind of gay today. Switched onto employees gay. He's like, I guess it wasn't really right. Lisa. What I did shit. I'm not laughing. Really, I'm not now we both know that you work at the center. And before we started me thing. I appreciate everything you do for those dogs those dogs who don't have opposable thumbs to open call doors and escape when they're being kidnapped to Orange County to be put out. I'm so sorry that your good work at the shelter is being overshadowed by these offer women implicating that you a person who I don't know had something to do with this situation. I know nothing about so then back with teddy Nerissa Teddy's. They they wanted me to say pump dogs, but it couldn't go through with that. And Erica goes through with baby. She goes they wanted me to tell everybody about the dog and Erica goes. Yeah. Teddy's like Lisa was really adamant about not talking about the dog which made me realized she wants me to talk about the dog. Instead, and I could just tell she was gonna flip the truth. Yeah. I guess when I realized I was set up. Yeah. Yeah. I guess she thinks now she knows now that I'm sorry. It's more like that's when she realizes should being set up. And then when she showed Lisa the text messages. She's like it's only matter of time before now leases start flipping goes messages around on teddy. Yes. But she's not flipping them. You did do that. So unless you've got a call or text from Lisa's saying, let's bring it up, which you're not even claiming you did. Yeah. You're claiming that some twenty year old at the center told you to do. So you did which he didn't because we saw the tax, and okay, I just want to clarify. So what happened with text? Because now we've seen a larger thing is that is that teddy and John blizzard. We're gossiping about the situation with the dog, which I think is totally fine a normal. I don't think there's actually anything wrong with that. And she asked. Did Lisa like Lisa tell you to tell me no matter what this is going to come out. And then right after that. She texted Lisa tell you to tell me he said, yes. Yes. One tax in the very next sexy. Ide- k which means. How is saying that the yes was in response to the first text message that teddy is going to come out and at the I dunno is saying, let's Lisa. Either way teddy is going around, and again, I like teddy, but she's going around saying like I have definite proof and. As far as we can tell right now. Her proof is based off with this twenty year old like twenty two year old issues from spin class. I'm not least. The kid, but if you're friends with Lisa Vander prompt, and you're going to go out on this huge limb to defend Lisa Vander pump to take down to read. But Lisa never said anything to you talk to you about it texted you about it nothing. So and also what's come out? Is that Hannah the girl who raised this dog and trae dog is married or engaged too much, if they're married or engaged to Teddy's, brother? So that's how she knew she knows someone right at the center who raises actual dog. So when this happened you don't think Hannah's going to be like oh the dog. I raised just got taken kill Salter by your fucking enemy. You know? So give me a break. Teddy and teddy you're trying a little too hard here. Okay. I don't know something is not adding up, and I just feel like this is the fight. I can't believe that. This is the fight that you were texting with some kid and thought that Lisa Vander pump wanted you to say so you did it. But then you felt like she was going to blame you for the fuck do some balls. You're like forty. Yeah. I also think that it get Lisa wants to take down to reach. She actually. Do it herself done as you would have done it shape. Read she would've that dog at the shelter until the first day of filming and then have the shelter. Call us. And I'll be do read had the dog counts. Yeah. To get her on the phone to read this togas that kills out. That's an easy target. I guarantee Lisa would have just spent the entire season microaggressions and everything she doesn't need to do a whole elaborate thing, you know. She would have stupid. Yeah. So either way so so at least now still talking with John blizzard. And she's saying, you know, the other night. I I remember that Saturday night. So well, John Sassan can had an argument. Oh, yelling and screaming. And I said stop stop not care. I cannot for what thou. Yes. I don't care. You can I don't get donor Trump himself. I don't give a shit on. I two set knitting Lucy news too. The way that it was twisted. Is that John Sesa told you that? I don't care who you told. And he goes, yeah. He said you'd said tell whoever and she said, so you chose to tell tatty, but then you implicate me and she pulls out the tax and he's like, okay. Well, I put words in your mouth in that weren't true and all on that on it. Sometimes there are moments. Did you shut the fuck up tweak? But she's very involved with the center because she might not be anymore. She really gave me a hard time pool me leaving my heart. And he's like, and that's what everyone at the center is having such a hard time with this because it's all being flipped onto you. I'm like, yeah. Like, everyone is always so sad when their boss gets the deal shit. Like so mad. I'm so sad. My boss shit. Oh, miss account of community. It's not just about went. What when you eat? You know, what you eat? It's about being accountable in life own your PU you do good it. I'm going to have to point out one thing in this Eric teddy conversation now that teddy is changing your story and coming clear, air Kaz. But in mid in the chapel tell me that's a waste of space. She's like I have said headed that. She's not as innocent, and she portrays, and I think that have been proven ride, and we see the cliffs of Erica telling her that the reunion Palese missing assent, and then she comes back to her. And she's like it takes a lap to help. Someone take some on man. Ooh, now, Eric. Eric. I hope so because it's just so lopsided. You know? So now, we go over back to DC and their their family is moving Sophia into her dorm, you know, George Washington, and really I think it's great. Gorgeous window a window. And you know, I can really sell this on the agency right now what you're doing for sale right now. Actually, I'm going to buy it for a certain price. And then I'm going to sell it again for a higher price. It's not fraud. You know, it's just something we do. So he has like the bathroom lighting is really scary. I'm not gonna lie. I'm like, you should be lucky that you have a bathroom in your dorm room. Okay. Like, probably like an extra hundred thousand dollars a year is of course, Kyle. She can't she can't help kiling her daughter's like, well, you have your mirror that you had to have don't worry about the lightning. Girls. Like, okay now cleaning, you know. I'm going to have to teach you how to scrub a toilet. And she's like, what do you have to clean the toilet of flushes at self like a? Okay. So then Renna is getting her makeup done with her going live famously the makeup artist for what's what's her face Rachel's? Oh, he's like he's another. He's funny. He's he's what you know. I don't know. I just found him to be just such a classic like hanger on both on rituals. Oh, and here's just I don't know knows Greg and you don't have this try the hose and he's running with the hose like in both of his arms. So he's doing a home and garden cover for some magazine. Yeah. And she's so funny 'cause I know criminal. John good actress. And he's like is this like fun are not have you actually ever guarded. Because like it's good to laugh at yourself and not take anything seriously. She's like, I'm like some people who take themselves way to banter series. God. Are you have says get over it touched? You give me a break. This is not even about you. So as like. I feel sorry for what you take yourself too. Seriously. I feel like it hits you. So much. See like. I don't know what else can say I was like an old rattlesnake, but that doesn't make sense rattlesnake seriously. Ages. You just saying which I'm so sick of just saying, okay? I can't I'm trying to break. My mother saying just saying because I'm going to kill her. If she says just saying one more time just saying so she goes look at fresh is this face. So then photo shoot. One of the the photographer gays, I left after dress. Yeah. Lifted up. He's like I see who cheat and he's like cab. It's going to see some snaps their. So then Lisa Renna gives us a little monologue about how much she's worked in your life thirty years, the long time, maybe some things were lives. Dancing with the stars MC dancing with the stars like three weeks. See has hustle Bill. I mean, like, you know, not a lot of. I just I saw dancing ours. I went to one tape ends the stars back in two thousand and five and that was her season. And I saw her dance on dancing up a storm there just like the dancing with the stars is listed before Broadway. Broadway. Okay. You can't say dancing with the stars. Then depends them Broadway. Then QBC like what the list maybe that was the chronology of her career. I don't know. It is funny though, dancing Chicago. It's just like the weirdest Lincoln profile ever. No way. You know QVC? So now, we go back to Kyle in DC and Mariscos curling her like, pulling your hair and stuff meta many talents. I'm going to sell this curling iron right up to this. And. The agency's go onto hair also. So anyway on the phone for you. So so teddy calls up and today, of course, gossiping about everything she just said to Erica. You know? And she's yeah. Talking to Iraq. And Erica said we all believe you. I'm like teddy. You're talking about how you were like caught up in all the gossip with John blizzard as if it was like a moment of like like poor character. Whatever you're doing same thing. You're still just gossiping to Kyle. Yeah. And supposedly Erica told her the thing to remember is that Lisa used you. And I'm like, okay. And yeah, as if you're not being used. Like, you're so you're so weak that she didn't even have to call you. I don't believe it. Okay. Now. Here's another piece of gossip that came out this week. I'm so bored. With the story line can't I'm not bored with it. I know, but I don't care I'm still board with. So here's another piece of gossip. And when they were at that dinner, the Bahamas when Lisa Vander pump left early. That's why he was in the Bahamas because she was supposed to be brought on camera to confront Lisa about stealing. Her restaurant. Is that if you read that? Some blogs seems farfetched really need just happens to be in the Bahamas at the same place at the same time as the real housewives of Beverly Hills. Teddy says to steady as saying that like, oh, yeah. Well, erica's Vanderbilt is like using me to get back at to re. And Kyle's response is will you have to think about it. Like, what's her next move? And I'm just like fuck you. Because if you're if that she's like best friends with Lisa Vander pomp, like she's saying, oh, my oldest French so close at a like who does that to their friend in the sense of like, if if let's say like as like you or like another like really close friend of mine, someone's accusing it something of doing something, I would say, you know, like, I don't think like, I know her. I don't think she's trying to do that. Or it's not that big of a deal or it's not that deep like they're wasted a fuse it like ways to support your friend. She's not going to defuse a fire that she's starting. It's like, yeah. Because you because the point is that she clearly. Wants to take out Lisa Vander pump. But she's still want that she's the one who wants to be like, oh, but she's my friend. But she's like by her saying you have to think about what's her next move. She is continuing to stoke the flames. She's continuing to make teddy field paranoid and feel like she's part of a master plan instead of just like being like, no teddy. Listen to worry about it. I think if if Lisa wants to take down to re she will do she could do it like she doesn't need you to do. You know, like, yeah. I don't think it was not a nice. It was that is why Kyle is and always has been though worst. Doc. Well, I just think it's just server can can everyone hear the vacuum cleaners outside or where stone our hotel room as we mentioned that they're I think they're fighting back with vacuum right outside. And in fact, by the way, tile, call even says right now, Lisa's one of my oldest friends and teddy is one of my closest friends. I have to pick a side. I'm like. A you don't have to pick a side you the one who created the sides and be like, where's the loyalties of your friend of like nine years? Yeah. Just kyle. She's a Kyle. Yeah. Cows worst. So then Erica, I mean teddy you knows terrified of the monster. That's Vander pumps few looking over much older. His the hold. Henny. No one's fucking chasing teddy. No, one cares about you stupid. It's not like the t five thousand whatever's chasing after turned into a pickup truck and down the street right behind me possibly printing. Up proof that I'm a fucking liar. Yeah. Don't like how about just don't gossip as much. I mean, or if you're gonna gossip just like be cool with it. Or if you're gonna come for a boss, you better have something. This is another season of bullshit. You're gonna take fan or do it in a good way. I'm sure Vander pump is guilty of tons of shady shit. We're not seeing any of get on something real people. Yeah. Yeah. Where she's laundering her money? Why Ford that estate find out he's friends with PK in the first? Yeah, that's a real do that teddy. Then then we'll figure out why there's cute adorable little tweak hosts at at pomp that suddenly disappear after one night of work. Never. What foreign country they being sold to in locked in cages in Yemen. There's gotta be some real shift to get her on people. You're wasting my time. Yeah. Find out what why do the swans likes wasn't like anyone? But they like her. That's weird about that. Find the baby factory where she stealing toddlers steel stem cells injected tour neck. Yeah, why don't you? Why don't you find out? Why Pandora doesn't talk anymore? And how about that? What went up find out? Why Vander pump tried to stuff Pandora into a radio station? The first daughter to robot like Capra, and we're we're is Cedric anyway, find that out. Yeah. Find out. We're Cedric is. Yeah. Or didn't you have a maid before Roseo her? So so now teddy is with the read and Erica horse place like the question center or something and to horses Terrence and trigger which made me laugh. I don't know. Why just feels like just like words that I would confuse to read tearing? It's trigger. I don't know. So so now teddy is like, she's like, you know, my friendship with arrogant Rita shifted and natural friends. And you know, what I'm thinking if like this is classic. Eric has a cool girl. Okay. She's just like the cool girl. And I think that basically people both to read and teddy pushback against Erica. I, but I think they've been seduced by our quilt girl nece, and that's they decide they want like Vanderbilt's, not the cool, girl and Erica, cool girl. Look, the LA Raila probably dead. Malia may. You may. Duri thick. I think my whole got in a couple of toots. Listen. I've been on host is all across America and the world Israel Disneyland. Encina infamy this Munda? Up to read I love horses so much that we actually put four horses into our car. And that's what they say are call has horsepower because we actually have horses in there. God. So they end up going to lunch after that. But in the meantime, Kyle's still a college of their kids. He's in like an alternate universe. Where time goes by. So slowly like all this stuff is happening Beverly Hills. And then we cut back to calm radio. And they're like still on the same like five minutes later in DC. You're like, oh, they're so boring this family, it's like you want to go to lunch. Okay. Let's go to lend you wanna go to dinner. Okay. Good at dinner. What I liked about this. And now, they're at dinner and what I liked about. This is I feel like we saw some previously unspoken tension between Morocco and Farah has Farah him in. And she's like, yeah. I've got a leave tomorrow out of flight at nine AM tomorrow. And I got I gotta get there early. Check my bag. I'm like you came in two days and have a bag of check. And she goes. Yup. Like, don't push me. Meri's dump push me. It's gotta be at nine to give a give some evidence to a lawyer that suing you right now for fraud. How about that dad? They wanna really guilt me about cases. Yeah. It's like what you what you can rent a Yod in the south of France that you can't pay the twenty five dollars for my fucking suitcase, quote, unquote, dad. He's like, Yup. Yup. That's right daughter. So less behind every cowboy oh lunch. They go to some country place. And it says behind every cowboy is a woman with a good job in town. It is a hilarious sign. Yeah. And well spoken. Yes. They're getting out their horses and stuff and thank you Terrence. And that was the last we ever saw Terrence tweet sent them off to the jury goodbye. Terrence Hello glue. Up PK's ripped off news. Barron's little Terrence on it. We get into a lovely family. Guys, who I think is is. I think one of her parents is Hispanic right now, they're both Israeli I think. Oh, yeah. Okay. So then it's really funny she website Hispanic accent, which he's ordering. She's like. Kiss the walk multiple for call. They say, okay us glass. Yes. I think I'm to go with a mission. Would you mind? You could you could I have a vegetarian buddy throw. Oh. She has like the Spanish version, you know, pass the growing up there with news. Newscaster heated that she. Hello and welcome. I'm Marie L after or whatever. She would only use an accent on certain things cracks me up sin-. They're talking Teddy's like men have triggers. Like, I know exactly how to piss off Edwin. I'll have to say. Hi, I'm teddy. Triggers. Ted once triggered I don't think you should wear a tank top again today, he gets so mad. Yes, they talk about their husbands and aboard. And then well at and of course, teddy was she's like always says I trained horses for living that I can like I dunno. I actually got lost in. Trying to win a drain awards. Erica's Tom this want someone south and slow tweet. And if I can do that, I'm goaling guess what? I'm not gonna do any of that. I don't gotta pre-nup that'll give a full merica. He buried with a white dress. And denny's. On the not job at L spearmint rhino there. Strategy rupaul Mata. Uh-huh. Yeah. They're talking about like Doritos art, saying how PK's always, you know, her job does have to go out to parties and stuff, and she just wants to stay home with the kids. But she says that he'll be like, well, I wanna be on with the kids to and teddy is like just home. Hey, you know, what you're like superman? You got this. You don't need me erica's like, yeah. I always say you're better at this than I am anyway. And then they're all like. We just appreciate it ourselves for a man in. Yeah. Congrats. So then Denise and Aaron go on God. You ever wonder what it'd be like to watch Richard go on a date with a piece of driftwood? He really is less his heart. But it still funny because he's like, yeah. I'd like a double custom migos rep Asada up make that trip onto nieces like. Humped us have a single like. For women that family, exactly sure has the tight doesn't shave so cheers to being with Nicolette Sheridan. They toast to that. And you know, Denise are talking about all the baggage that she brought the relationship. She's like, yeah. Disaster. You know, I married Charlie Sheen's, I've got teenagers ios pretty the story. Just has she brushes everything under the rug should hang I meant Charlie on a movie was a door Buhlmann things get sideways when I got pregnant with Lola and it got dark and toxic. And after one real bad night packed up and file the next day. It was like I need so much filled in. Yeah. Not fair. That's not fair. Denise. So Aaron has something really important to say because they're trying to figure out when they're gonna get married. He's like like we have to get married in ten days now on September eighth which is like why he's like. Numerology? I mean, if you add it all up, it's vanity a like. Why it's just number eight. What are you gonna have a Toy Story wedding to like how many many meetings? It's also like the the theme of revenge. He's like his September ninth month. Eight plus nine seventeen and one plus seven is eight. Yeah. Don't give a shit about this stuff know just like pick Davis, fines, go fucking bathroom. No. She's like so eight like a good luck numbers. Something like, I'm still not tracking this. He's like, what do you think Finnity Baid Infinity? So there are these guys exist in LA, and they're so ridiculous. And if you ever get trapped in conversation with one of them, you're like what is my life right now. How am I hearing this? It's like if numerology really worked, you wouldn't need plugs. You know, what I mean like, you could find a way to grow your hair? I don't know if magic work that think we'd all be thin with hair. I mean, couldn't they theoretically also get married on October eighth or November seven don't even try and make me okay, December. I'm just saying there's a lot of options. So nieces Sinisa saying she, you know, she wants to do something spontaneous. That's what I love about you, baby. Also, you're rich and she's like. She's like listen. I don't base my numbers off. I don't base my decisions off members based off of dick even if that dig is attached with big oil idiot. He's got giant packs and huge arms. And that's all I need right now at this point in my life. I don't give a fuck about the number eight accepted. He's got it. All right sister. You go girl. I don't care about the number eight except that. That's what he did to me. I am. I right. Ladies am. I right. Please get a pre NUP. I like you. I know please, please, please. Guess what Kyle's doing the family eating at by people all fame. Fuck this family. I'm so mad at this family there at the Willard hotel, which has been the home of several real house Potomac of scenes, so so anyway, so they're all they're in their sweet and the room service guy comes in and put the food out on like the credential or something beside table, and then just leaves oh always knocking going to serve us. Oh, okay. It's room service you buffoon. So then Kyle gets up and she starts serving everyone like no one even gets up to help her. She's taking all these dishes all these plates, and they're just sitting there like not like, oh, can I help you there? Just sit there all like lumps, and she's just doing everything this bullshit. Yeah. Carl's family bores me. I don't even know any of that. Because they're trying me up in Carl's. Well, because it's like the third scene of Kyle trying not to cry then crying. They make no. Crying, and they're all crying. Board. Okay. So Torri is Jerry calls Kyle. And they're basically guess what they're talking now that tiles back LA now. Now, we're finally don't DC, I guess what they're talking about at least advantaged Docker. So Kyle's like just I think she just wants to clear the air from the Bahamas, which is why we have to go to her house because this is a power move. Eric is not the only one who will make you drive your ass to Pasadena. Lisa lives closer. But she's still like we will have problems on. My swear bitch. Like, you're gonna have to cross a moat to have problems with me. Yeah. Exactly. And you have to fenders. You're you have to keep your can't goes away from my swans. Yes. So to reach like, I spoke with PK and neither one of us want this dog situation to go any further cows like well, maybe that's the goal for today. I'm like fat chance if you're involved. Okay. You know, you're not gonna squash. This this is your dire. Like, this is this is your moment. And you're going for it. Yeah. Even showed up in a pink suit. Yeah. His like who cares? I agree that you can't own a color. But it's Kyle knows. She knew she shows up and the car that Lisa dries in the governor that Lisa wears with with like with like creases on her. But from the swing that she got at least a has. So so Kyle shows up and this, of course, is like Hello. Thank you. For worry. My color to my has dumb pitch. Because you know, that pink makes me happy trying to turn it around. So the Kyle cry and say, well, I'm not gonna be I'm not going to be a friend wing pink anymore. Good Carl's last. Gordon stand to make them. Twenty twenty so Cal for Rosa. And then Lisa's like God. I was wondering if you could tell me a really boring story about what you've been up to lately, she's like, well, I went to DC dropping off. So these horrific God, you have something in common with Torit. You can put anything to sleep. To reach this best part Torri shows up. And she's like, I go is go is. So we can have lunch now. And like, it's four o'clock. Really struggles at the time. Reaches assume that it was lunchtime. Oh, savannah promptly. Now. Let me put it out Manila. Fota Manila old. Business business. I hate what went down to the Bahamas has being accused of something. I knew I didn't do. And when I came back, and showed me something to change my mind. He's showed me that Texas. It's raining postively outside eighty percent. Chance of Hayes. I'm sorry. I don't really know his name on on account of me. Not even really know is four hundred employees. I mean, granted three hundred ninety six go. So you don't actually see them. But they still do. Good name was Leslie something Leslie snowstorm, Tom blizzard. Yes, I barely bell. I believe the name was oh, JoAnne Frappuccino. No. It's John lizard missed a heat Mayes lurk. No. So she's like here. The paper paper paper paper business business. She says have the dog that and I could say it looks like to read stalled. Well, now ten is already caught wind that this is going to happen. She's wind rented out these texts already changed her story. So we know that he knows this is coming. So she's that's why she's called everyone in the cast already. Gone over her story. So now, no one's surprised by this already know knows. And Kyle says like so when Lisa's shows the text that says that says like what time you wrote? The dog there, and I can say something cost us. Well, I mean, I could see what you're saying. But I think it's unfair to put that on her when she wasn't alone in this situation. So I'm like, oh, so it's okay to give teddy the benefit of the doubt in a situation to see like the the difference like cadences or nuances I should say of of the situation. But at least it's like, oh, she's just manipulating. Saying that Teddy's admitting it so Lisa admitted it it wouldn't be a problem. It's just at least it's not admitting it again that part, but you still don't have any well, then teddy. And then Koss, you know, of course, have seniors all teddy show me on her phone. But you know, what though here's the thing. Teddy didn't initiate, I'm like oh. So now, the issues that teddy didn't initiate that John blizzard, which I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I just think it's so funny that they're all standing up for teddy by saying she's so weak that she was told to told to do something by twenty two year old and she did. So then go mine. So then I mean, not to read sort of does trip up of Andhra pumped because then she calls like ocal trips panta pump. She's like sushi, I says it to read like how did you know that teddy new, and then it's like, well these are called me. And then 'cause like Lisa how did you know that teddy knew about this? And this is like I didn't know that teddy new just I guess, I guess I assumed she knew I was like that's not a strong moment. Aw, we saw we saw her say we are after that thing. She went to read and said, you have to know they were talking about this at the foundation and heading knows this information. But how does she I think what they're saying? Is if she doesn't know John blizzard, very, well, like how would you know that jump gossiping teddy because teddy is friends with Anna and John blizzard who's friends with John Sesa. They all work there. So why teddy now? Yeah. Fucking knows all gossiping. They would all know every little thing. Yeah. I think it was and Vander took. She said don't show the dog on camera. They did. Anyway, this was before they even said anything about the dog or where it was from teddy said that dog looks or Johnson said doesn't this dog look familiar, and she said don't say anything. She shutting it down ten was the one he said something. So even if you're saying, she manipulated you right in that moment, she said don't say anything and you did anyway. So it just doesn't hold fucking water. And if anything it was. Actually, if you go back to that scene. You know, who is actually trying to try to make something happen. I happen was Kyle. I was like why are we talking about the dog dog this dog? There's something weird about this dog. I just feel weird. They're talking about to reach dog. She was one who was making into thing. And when it actually like not a thing at all. Yeah. So, but the other make things at least I still had a conversation. Brought it up again at the party. So the everybody would know put it on Broadway right up. I don't want to talk about this. I don't wanna talk about this and cows like, well, here's what happened with the dog. So what the fuck? Yeah. So anyway, there's there's talking about how you know, Ted. He's saying that John blizzard had an order and leases like why are you believing? Why are you believing? What I'm holding the text messages? I'm holding the conversation. Like, why are you believing? What she's saying over what you're looking at the litter blizzard dessert, treat was given an older, and she's like, so you believe I told John sesa- sesame toll John blizzard. They're both lying, and this is like trying to connect the dots of things, and she's like, but Teddy's and she led me to believe that they had to they wanted to go. Then they brought the dog ads. So very least you can admit that the story that Ted. He is giving you his different than the story. That is in these texts. Like, Bing, Bing, Bing, congratulations stories of law. Also, by the way, you know, what I hate. I hate that selective thing of like well that person's here to defend themselves because to reach like, Ted. He's not here to defend herself. Well, you know, it doesn't seem to stop you like dragging Lisa Vander pump behind her back not even for this situation. But like last season, you know, to I I don't know the hypocrisy. It really bothers me. And as as you always say, we took the Hippocratic oath, we're too. We get it. But I just I I don't like it. Yeah. I'm just kind of sick of it. And then to read. Depend oppose though, they won. But he's not as innocent as he claims to be and then she's pretending to cry. She's like. She's like. Ooh. Can we just move on? Okay. I like also every time Lisa talk. She holds up text messages like really big. Hold it up. She's like she's but she's putting them down across the table. So it was she always has like reach across one moment. Yes. Again, I've had this made into a ternan would've they call those opposing those red carpet Ternate sees what do they look sees? No another. Stephon, repeat tuned. Text messages into a step and repeat would you like to post reason front of these large, Texas like the Meemaw font? So basically, this is like somebody's guilty by omission. Take the shit at the end of it. A little pink Ed comes out, and that brings us to the end of real housewives. You're so. You're so you're so can you tell your brain dead from this? That brings us to the end of Banda pump rule. Oh my goodness. Wow. While the controversy rages on thank you all for listening. We are going to be in Cincinnati the Saturday. So there's still tickets available for that summer house show, your show, be fun. We'll be drinking Rosa at least I should say. I don't wanna play maybe Rosaiah and honor of it's happy hour. So watch crap is calm for that. And also that amazing merge. Ronnie if the audience in DC with those Lou leggings, hey, everyone. Thanks for listening by.

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This Podcast is NOT a Cabaret  Featuring Fallon and Kyle

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This Podcast is NOT a Cabaret Featuring Fallon and Kyle

"I plead guilty to being fabulous. The only thing i'll settle for is more people call me over the top but lately i prefer being a bottom gave fat now i. I need a match when life gives me limes. I make margaritas if you got a problem with me. It's your guys welcome to. Let's talk tv. I'm your host cares dylan and today. I have my friend fallon with me. I and my husband kyle and we have so much to talk about and i'm so excited to be back after a really long hiatus we had some. I was doing a podcast with my husband kyle but we're not doing that one anymore. So now we have time to actually do a podcast about these crazy women. I'm in a real outside so let's from wrestling to real housewives so it's the same thing yeah same thing same difference remember when used to say that when you're a kid ed same different same difference use that term saving little phrase same. I feel like that's like an older term. I don't think he is. I don't think kids don't they. Kids say that whenever i was a kid that's what i'm saying whenever i was a kid kids used to say same difference. How old are you know. I'm almost as old as as <hes> luanne dallas set. That's balance hero. I'm losing it okay. So what have you been up to valid. Oh a whole lot of nothing just just working summer schools my last week and ganic seek. I'm free for the summer until august awesome. So what are you going to do in your free time just a lot of cleaning organizing my house <hes> because my boyfriend just moved in so that's been a whirlwind of things and it's super messy and so i need to get organized drive me crazy yeah yeah totally. We need to do the same thing for our house. Disaster this it is that's why i'm glad we're we're recording. According today at a co working space here in waco texas called waco work and if you're ever in the area you should totally come. Check it out. It's really cool. They have have free beer and coffee and sometimes they have free days that you can work here so i think you can buy a day pass for ten dollars to work here if if you ever wanted just just stop in and use their super fast wifi. It's literally the fastest. Why find waco fiber yeah hustle said they had fiber but they don't so uh-huh muscled. You told me i know badmouthing hustle but <hes> the internet is not as fast as waco work. I will say so anyways we have so much to talk about today and i gave fallon the gift of watching being three episodes of the real housewives to of new york and one of beverly hills and it's been very interesting today a your thoughts so the episodes we watch for the last two of new york where they were in miami and which is very confusing thing for me because i thought this was a new york they went on vacation to miami so <hes> and then at the end of the last episode they actually came home and they were undoing stuff in new york right anyways so rip bambi yes or so i want to get fallon hot takes because i felt like she has a lot. The i wanna just kind of thinking just going down through the characters actors of the show while you can call them are real people but i feel like they play it. Play it up percents unless you hope it's not yeah they go by first name. It's character so new york is really a lot to handle if you've never watched it before and i remember not i started watching real housewives of new york like i was just like these women are awful. I hate them. I hate took like five or six seasons to be like okay eleven five or six. That's like it took a while for me to be like okay. I really loved these people now but it real new york. They have to grow on. You and i feel like beverly hills. It's like automatically. You're like at least you like a couple of them. They're kind of like immoral center. Turn of the show but new york has no moral center of the show at least until darren comes on which i feel is can be a moral center of of new york but <hes> she's crazy crazy. Though yeah i am very cures the here balance like thoughts on edge person so we're gonna go through. We're going to start with with someone that she didn't really mention today. Which is sonja morgan okay. <hes> sonja morgan was married agreed to a morgan like j. p. morgan chase so she that's why she's on this show because she's from money but she is now divorced from him mm-hmm <hes> she has a daughter with that guy and she she's been divorced for years though like over ten years before she even started so hosea she a housewife new york. None of them are married. Okay yeah they've been married but none of them are currently married so the real ex house. Yes yes yes so. Some of them did start out as wives like lou ann was married and got divorced. Bethany was married kind of in the middle and then now she's divorced. Ramona was married. He cheated on her. She's divorced so which got brought up a little bit in this episode about his name's mario member louis asked her about like doc <hes> so anyways. I'm curious about your thoughts of sonia because episode before this which i was like if i just keep making her watch more more episodes she's going to be like. I hate this show so much but the episode before this gets really really drunk. I don't know if you saw the previews when she stepped on the table. Whoa eighties eighties. She fell off the table. As she fell off the table. He was sitting in her chair and she just fell down onto the floor art and hit her head well. This is what happens when you drink. I don't understand why this is confusing. We've been out to the bar. We know what happened the what was your thoughts on like sonia going to a._a. With new in and how she was like i don't really wanna go. I like everything anything about beginning because she's very humble. She was just like even those those bitches relate. Can i say this is explicit. They were saying you're you're a little out of control and you know fuck like everybody's out of control but she's so humble she was like sure. I'll just everything once yeah and everybody be quiet. Why it hatches want everybody to be quiet and just get off her back. I mean it's hard to be gained ganged up upon especially like when you're a silly drunk and she acts like clearly just a silly drunk. They're like oh. You just stepped on the table. They attention on the lake. She's drunk yeah. That's what people do when they're drunk. I don't dan. I think that that happened the night after she got so drunk and bethany had to call the ambulance and so that's why bethany did. I don't really have obstacle came and checked her out to make sure she didn't have a concussion. 'cause like we are to <hes> so you didn't see this episode but on that one that's the one worst i it looks like she hits her head like on the corner of a table and she'll they asked her like who's the president clinton well i mean. Does anyone know the president uh-huh hail trump thang kidding podcast joke. Okay okay so sonya. I i like sonya. I think when she went like she's very sensitive clearly <hes> she's. She's a rich person. She doesn't wanna be hearing about these people industry like she like she already knows she has everything and then here's these terrible stories even if she it becomes a criminal or even gets severely injured. She has enough money to revive her so it. They're kind of over-reacting in my opinion. She's red-letter drink. Whatever shown sadier yeah so the the history of her is. I mean always getting sonia used to get drunk a lot more than then <hes> she does now now but <hes> that episode where she fell was probably the drunk she had been in a while. I love drunk song yeah. She's pre trial loves drunk but i hated that they were like. I hated that they made her pretty much. Go to that meeting that she said numerous times. I don't want to go and i don't want to support liu and she said that plenty of times times and they were like but i think maybe you should just go and make an or put on the t shirts use fine miami yeah and louisiana that address. I'm like fuck this yes so when you go to the beach and she just started going crazy and she was like what is it it is yes. She was going nuts freaking and they were god what's wrong. What's wrong and lou n. An at luanshya so tone deaf to everything she just like. Let's just go on the beach so you wanna go for a swim and bethany he's like no listen to what she's she sang and she's still never listened to what i know. Luliang just wants to lake get out her little baby state like a little baby and she's just like get over income swim. We're at miami like they haven't even been on the beach. Apparently that's what she sat on episode. Yeah and they're at the beach. Come on louisiana's totally right right right down. Don't get our truffle fries bitches having trouble fries. I mean that i love trouble brides if you've never had any they're amazing oh. The luay forgot to bring oh. Gosh what a bitch taking your time time to be at the beat for what they came for. Shall we wait. Let's let's save lou ann no kyle to savor and let us talk about tinsley. This was the most tinsley ever come out yeah so my favorite tinsley tinsley especially the like i wanna point out the producers of the show the real stars and they're the real heroes <laughter> they say are they make make the shows so good bye if you've noticed but they zoom in on tinsley space when louisiana's talking she makes this nasty ask a senator was the funniest moment i thought well yeah especially like during that whole part like when they're out at dinner and <hes> <hes> tinsley slurring her words yeah and lewis also been drinking for probably four hours at this point. They've been drinking for like forty eight hours at this swollen. She made out with brad so she's on a high yeah. That's right. She did make things breath so cute. I'm like what like cute for fifties because don't find out. We like forty four forty three actually i when i when i'm watching this and i was just like you know if it ever just falls apart apart. It looks like i'll be okay. That dude looks like a goddamn dog. He is. He's cute. I'm like is a friend. He's uglier understand how king so her ex boyfriend scott have you ever heard of coupon cabin offer commercial and that's her ex boyfriend the one that centered the bambi shoes. They shut our ass. She's hot. This was the most like you tinsley. You've ever get that she's there. She's kind of like bar. She was what barbara is not even compared densely to the hideous barbara libra say on new real housewives of new jersey. I should be anywhere near the housewives. Franchise french is that she needs to be real worker of the bodega. The corner now bruce extra on sons of anarchy. She needs trailer still understand why don't lightining every week. We're like no and i don't think we'll try to make bar. It's not going to happen now. Even bethany said on watch what happens live about barbara. She's like. I don't think she'll be back really because she is being the bad guy and a bad bike. She's just not good t._v. Was brought in san so apparently she's the one that helped luanne with like her whole intervention and like keeping her sober and make sure making sure she was going to her meetings and all of that stuff and so that's why she was upset with luan because because luanne just pretty much left her with all of these crazy women who she has nothing in common with their who aren't her friends to be. He is like gucci chanel. Whatever fete in yeah that's all they talk shit well ramona circle dress shopping or whatever yeah no there was another episode where ramona told her that oliver closer ugly. That's gonna take our shopping. At least she's been real. Ramona's always real yeah. What do you think about ramona. <hes> ramona's 'cause she's like. I wanted that brett guy first of all the fighting over that brad guy. That's got to be a low point break dance. We went on on the day before tinsley went on a date. She was like i got his number or to. I'm gonna take stem so not only did ramona bring her new boy toy to miami yeah she met up with her ex husband in miami and then you also wanted this guy she is thirsty and then those are the mona's over sixty years old okay antennae versus ramona come on like no no. You're level now. You're league. Ramona looks good for like a lawsuit against tenley hercus boobs. I've ever seen even research four year old. She said she told her dress wasn't doing her any favors. I know she's like six thousand nine. What what is that. Damn quote that you said that luan said the like alex like an early season. Oh so luanne there. There used to be this girl on on a new york. Her name was alex mccord and you'll have to look her up later but she she was married to this girl was she was crazy and her husband was on ended a lot and they were both just really crazy and <hes> she her in lieu and didn't really get along very well. One day they went out to try to resolve some of their issues shoes and hacking 'cause that's me and they were like yelling at each other. We're resolve issues square and told her that her shoes are ugly and she goes. These are louis vuitton and low angles. Even louis vitton makes mistakes aches. Wow this is who i love ran. She's got a good time to love luanne. Don't get she makes for great t._v. But she's a bitch fantastic t._v. She she's very real. All of them are self absorbed <hes> not they're fighting for her it to be paying attention to them which is self absorbed. Yeah that's a good way to put the whole thing with bethany though bethany had total right to <hes> oh yeah yeah yeah because and building and building and bethany bethany is kind of like one of those people that she kind of internalizes a lot well whenever she she gets to a certain point she just like. Let's it all out. She was that and plus. She was speaking for the entire group. It wasn't like dorando goes screeching. I would lose my mind and especially everybody and everybody's wanting to say it but you're she saying everything that we've wanted to say and we're that's why they were just letting her go 'cause william louisiana's the clean because she can affect people in a good way a good blake. I mean if she wants to be boss. She's doing right. She's affecting them getting under the skin so yeah. She was dark skinned by going. Oh bethany nope. Oh bethany you say be be strong. What about what she say bully like oh yes somebody or something like that. What did you yeah so. I want to hear her thoughts on <music> bethany so bethany is everybody's favorite. She's like the number one housewife. She's the top paid housewife and all the franchises show for shows. She's like eighty cohen's who over the guy. That's over everything. She's like his little pet. She loves her while she's very pretty she she hello. I think she's very pretty is very. She looked great at that dinner. That was one of the best times that was one of the best looks at she's ever had. I thought with the black and the black sheep yeah she's like so bethany. You'll have to look this up. Basically she went through. She had this show called bethany anthony getting married and she married the skies named jason and she had a baby and then they've been going through a long divorce battle. It's not even over yet and they've been they've been and six years a long time. I'll probably get this wrong and get. Everyone pissed off at me but anyways she has. She's kind of had a hard time. That's what she she was. Bringing up at. The dinner was her ex. Fiance died dennis and he died right before they started filming this season which is very and it's very sad. He died of an overdose overdose pills pills pills but he's the one that helped with. Lou ann's intervention as she was like. I got you know we set up that intervention for you. I got you to rehab for free and you left early. Shadow effort go that is not a cabaret. Hey is important. Yeah realize how cabaret balanced life is not a cabaret. I'm getting signals now. Now i got you do a cabaret. Have i done cavern right now. What would be your song. What would you think about what i think about like if you had your own cabaret ace starring fallon isla hot baz and getting him a big rovan watching t._v. I don't know what was yours. I would never be in a cab. I would never be a cabaret star but remember remember you spell cabaret song just came out the luang giovane giovanni. I made you watch the video and the cynthia bailey from housewives of atlanta but she's my favorite line this cabarets mike cabernet. She has a hobby. It's like their dog honor for having my god don't even get me started on the party. Don't even get me started on the party the party that the player bono's plan the night of the winter cabaret and they're like oh been we've already. No this is a different kind of cabaret with the different costume and songs. That's not the same that's like saying. They've been a lot of times. Why did they plan at the same time. Just go ramona. She said she didn't want was okay. So i did read up. I don't wanna go to your camera computers now. How's everybody in on it or was it just now but she did it to like pit against her because she's like oh i planned for her and so of course her is going to be like i don't know who who else who has for sonia yells for signs yeah feel pressure to have to go to this party that she planned for them so they can't go to the cabaret. That was very sneaky. Bethany bethany is the one that came out with like the solutions light. Hey we'll go like an hour before before a toast well. The solution solution is have it on a different night and let the people who wanna go make their own choice to go. That was rude well. I don't like okay so many on ramona side in this one cabaret now. How many nights are there for christmas says party. She could have planned to any other night. No it was spiteful and that's rude and patty and i can't stand the bullshit yet. You would go to the party or go to the cabaret if you had the tube like if you had the choice allied isn't that that's the thing has to be the night because they have plans. Which one are you going to party or cavalry well. Since i love lou in hab lewinsky alice in dallas soon with you you know not with me but she's going to be performing in dallas. Go by myself with us. Oh but we were thinking about going heard that it's awful but it'd be fun to go cabbie fun cow he he does kinda wanna go. I am very interested in trainwreck. Yes that might be entertaining and the nod to come on here and apologized to leeann. I should be entertains entertaining who wanted to hear her sing fillon giovanni. There's no money so what did you think about outd- arinda in her aerobics shing first of all i kinda liked her and she reminds me of like some old hippie lady for some reason and she's not even that old tinsley. She is younger freak. She's like sofiane golden on the goal gold yeah yeah no okay so she's she was okay but when she did the aerobic like here's my thing if you show any effort to work or any any kind of like where you have to have skill or performance like she did it she worked. These women don't work. It's knowing their dislike whining about truffle fries on the <music>. Sonia has a clothing line first of all. What does she do for that. She just tells people what to money. Don't work doesn't work. She doesn't trust fund kid and she lives in her. Yes she's. I don't think the renzo works no dir inda now during the during to get. She works for one hour doing aerobics. I respect her. She works out. I'll jazzercise. I know bethany works. She's all those that doesn't mean she works. I always think she's always at work. Okay yeah okay. Okay got that these genes that just came out and she has got a pair. I did actually really nice ones <hes> mhm how much does discuss their like fifty bucks. Okay yeah <hes> they have. She has all different colors all different styles yet shorts and also so all sorts of stuff and the genes are actually really comfortable. They are in the first season lay. She started skinny ordinary like she was a cook bright and then she said go like in grocery stores like yeah so bethany has been trying to like she was starting like skinny girl at the very beginning and she was a celebrity chef <hes> and which is why she gets in there and makes those crabcakes cakes like she's always cooking. Whenever she's on these trips he comes for everyone and she <hes> she was trying to start it back back then and like in the first season she'd be like i want a skinny girl margarita what it is is <hes> tequila <hes> a squeeze of lime and and a garvey and then she pretty much made that drink just by why why order a skinny margarita are skinny girl. Margarita is because of bethany okay and now she has like the history lesson <hes> she has like the bottles and the liquor store like all different kinds of stuff <hes> she sold old to smirnoff made like millions of dollars but she only sold half of it so she still has like partial. She's still she's still the c._e._o. I mean in any mattress bites and she's yeah for sure so she is. She's probably the richest like self made because she did not come from money. Okay she her parents. I did not have money at all so i mean kudos to her rags-to-riches bay but durant. I'm not really sure how she gets her. Money lewis user dry. Cleaning winning solution doesn't do anything now <unk> thongs who does that which one of these she dry-cleans her thongs. Somebody says her does and he's like a dry cleaner. Oh well then yeah. I mean throw everything in there. Yeah are they pressed why dr ah big dessert straight now and then let's see lou in is literally done nothing until she started doing the cabaret like she has done nothing. She used to do charity events. No no she was drunk. You've heard what she was doing that juice tumbling. She went to go help with that charity event and this was a kid. You got awkward thing ever so she goes and she helps with these kids and this girl stands up and she's like well. What do you want to be and she's like a model. As we win is like oh yeah you can you can do anything. I mean losing the weight. Isn't that hard because you like a like. A bigger. Kid is the most cringe-worthy they seen what i never saw until they did like a flashback on our shocked. It was something i mean lewin mind so anyways in is your favorite. I do like she does tell it how it is isn't. She's very no bullshit which i like. I like no bullshit people so a okay throwing career so he talked about bethany talk. I think we talked about everyone. Ramona tinsley sonia sonja barbara barbara got them all okay yes. We talked about them all so we're going to move on halfway through. I was planning on going an hour but hopefully less so at the halfway point. We're gonna talk about real. Housewives of beverly hills and fallon is only watch. Maybe you've watched one episode of does shawn time again. I remember palin came over. I don't know she added talking about the dog yet. They're always talking about the doll the euro there we had a that's a dog's name just trauma and yeah so she just watched this last episode where they they were in. They provide yes and they went on day went. What what what yeah vaunt sorta provoked it promotes from france vence france tasting the line heaven arise talion. I don't know they were tasting sting roseanne roseanne. This is the drunken that cowl richard ever been on camera. This was the best episode into the back back. How drunk are they eleven hash. She was only one that was drinking every single one. They said we're not wasting any of them. I was like big gold brass and this and the beckett erica jane had like a headache or she said she had a migraine. She did because those cray cray the last night we're all. Don't you feel this way no they. She don't feel awesome l. Let's start out with erica jane. What do we what do we think of erica. Jane erica change out the greatest voice she does. She's so like <music> and they just can't handle that. She doesn't get rattled. They want her to rattle. She gets a little rattled. I know but it's probably in the emma's way she could and very likable. That's one thing about erica. Jane is that even whenever even whenever coach goes you know she leaves at the table and i feel kinda bad for her though because she had just said i really love hanging out with these women india were all like not like kyle and teddy per day are women this is this is the second day in the second. This was the second day to time. I seasons. I have not liked kyle. I thought that like carl richards is my number. One favorite housewife at brecon love her. She's pair sultans aunt <hes>. I think that she's an amazing. She's like an amazing mom. She's like i just always really loved her and loved watching her but this time with erica jane really ah ticked me off while they have a problem because she is morphing cares. She's morphing into l. Oh yes that's that's right. They're becoming the same person <hes> because she gives her clothes sometime talking about teddy that's based oh. She's morphing into her because she lets sir borrow her clothes foxy main. You're becoming another verse. That's so weird which reminds me curious. You have some closer fallon yeah. I'm more into carris cowl. They actually do all the time. They're on each other stories. I think they work out together all the time 'cause they're actually real friends in real life way 'cause the the beverly hills people like they. They don't hang out <music> outside of like especially like the last. You'll see them on each other story sometimes but so you didn't get to see denise richards in this because she didn't go. Oh you saw her miata ones with the fire yeah. She was scared in houses. Any catching probably know cheese right yeah. She's from drop dead gorgeous. Uh uh-huh favorite movies atop pile up top <hes> yeah her her face is just so old. I can't get over how old her face. I think she looks pretty good she's. She says she doesn't get any like good for her talks. I that's the first thing i notice so when i saw that she was going to be on this season. I was just like oh. She looks a bit but as the season goes on i was like oh. Let's look more like herself they. She said she's cows tried to get her because calls had a lot of work done in college. Try to get her to like go with thirty. Get these facials and all of this and bo talks and stuff like that and denise researchers just has no interest in it. That's good that's getting and she seems like she has a healthy relationship with her husband. From her one episode she got married on the season. <hes> yeah he says okay seems like a nice nice guy for sure and she has got the the girls with charlie sheen and then she has one girl that she adopted so i mean overall the beverly hills. Girls are allow more <hes> centered. They seem like a more downer sweeter than the nida ross. Is that our fate a you don arthur's it. I wouldn't say fake because when you hear their labs it when they were laughing when they were drunk some fake this. This was a good episode for you to watch this. This was the best episodes to season when they were making fun of each other fun. It wasn't like attacking and nobody got their feelings. Ailing sir which is like you could see that progressing until like oh my god you really think about about me but they seem pretty cool about yes yes so this those kind of the more they were kind of more honest with each other on this episode but they can like they can be kind of fake and it usually will be like lease arena like calling people out like you you said this about this person and we need to talk that out right now yeah and so lisa n._s. Usually like the one that will be like. I don't want to sit here and be fake. Let's <music>. I would love to hear her thoughts on camille. That is commanding. I mail was the one that her house. Birdhouse did bar down get any emperor on camille house burned. I would love for her to watch the wedding episode because shady's she feels like a little much she she was on the first season and two kelsey grammer frazier rally yeah and they got a <unk> tossed salad and scramble that yes averis razor the task salad and scrambled. Oh you're talking about their sex fly for something. You didn't know the executive. That's exactly what i was wondering about. Let's talk about later. Oh my god. This is a new one. Yeah sounds awful whatever it is it just sounds they were amazed is probably really salty buttery in the bedroom. Is you like oh come on down and i a lot about what he likes eggs like when does he like finger in the buttle yeah arcane and plays he likes he likes for her to put on a strap upon what kind of toys shafts draw. How do you use a strap on one. I mean i mean i can only got. Don't tell them but anyways a little side okay. She's a peg uh-huh yeah so this episode of beverly hills i i. I'm excited. The new episode comes on tonight. I'm pretty excited to see help. This is gonna turn out 'cause they're also i don't like teddy. He kind of had a breakdown and then kyle and teddy like attacking erica jane so apparently lisa is going to make them apologize to err. Ca jane on the new us corey stories. They don't have anything else to do but be silly and having silly arguments she was like i kinda liked treat during this tolerable this this year she actually is she. She's good used to be the most hated and then teddy came along pretty heady. Duri has a pretty face. She knows she's very pretty. Caracazo your husband. He is the guy his name is p._k. P._k. and he's like boy george's manager <music> hi there. There's something she has. Her accent is totally fake. She's from connecticut. Oh okay so she's quite easily gets so what else you got. What else what's your sure. What's your final takeaway from from both new york and beverly hills well. My face is going to become very wrinkly because i have like contorted face while i watch my boyfriend. That's like turning off. I work. I have to k- did you enjoy it. Watch again. It's legal wow at least in my life isn't link at least i'm so my thirties like you know ideas approximation here for me especially being a mom of ten and eleven year old golden having a regular life as a teacher in waco texas is like completely fantasy. Yeah <hes> you know never be wearing six thousand dollar dresses and crime pressure. Maybe you'll meet our sugar daddy to pay for all of that for you. Oh yeah i do have a boyfriend but <hes> you know that falls through yeah. Let let let's let's go to new york ever or jim. I will for the podcast just because i like having a contrarian view and sound and ruffles is getting no it is interesting. I think to have an outside perspective of somebody has been watching the show and you just kinda like jumps in and says yeah. This is what i like very like. It's definitely definitely a snapshot of what's really going on. I don't really know what's going on just a glimpse into the show <hes> but yes i will watch it again for the podcast unless you're fans are like alan r._v.'er. She saw what your watch for pleasure fair pleasure. No i can think of like twelve thousand other things pleasure half of them involve frazier's yeah i mean it's definitely a show that both of them are definitely shows that you just that's while like it too. It's kind of like an escape. It's not anything like my real life. Soci- has people act that way and i think that's why like beverly hills now compared the dow was at the beginning like in the first you know first few seasons is a lot different but <hes> i think that's why new york is like the most popular show oh because it's the most consistent and it's the most filled with drama saying drama. They can turn anything into drop her shirt new york. It does like someone among can say one sentence and then the other person will just scream at them but nothing and so. I think that's why like new york. It also shows you. The differences between the cities like new york. Women are probably much more you know harsh and so you know we'll kind of just speak their mind whereas in beverly hills it's more like this. You know it's not gonna look at all this work. I've had done look at all these clothes that i can buy and how great am i your share. Yeah i mean a little bit different back in my twenty as we watch like flava flav and i love new york in real world like all that stuff was. I used to watch that <hes>. I bet i kinda got away from reality t._v. But it is definitely like just silly liam like want to watch something. That doesn't make you think that kind of at least i'm not living that way kind of thing it is your money would be nice. I love when they go like cow's always going to get all these facial things done and that's one of my kyle. Ah show me your skin watching all the stuff that they do and i don't know it's just fun for me. Yeah it is it is fun getting getting a peek into the rich person's life for sure for sure well movies or <hes> well. We're already at forty minutes. We can do see that another time student another pretty worn out from housewives dog but yeah thanks for talking about this and we'll definitely the recording regular regularly me yeah so be sure and follow. Let's talk tv on instagram and on twitter later in its at t._v. With karras and i'll definitely <hes> we're on itunes and spotify. Spotify isn't updating so if you don't see see it there. I'm going to try to message them and say what's going on with that <hes> and then i think it's also on <hes> what is other one on android that you can use google play no google play and stitcher stitcher. It's also on stitcher so i mean i only we have apple products only use i tune so if you have attended easy to find just despise endorsed by apple yes so okay okay well. Thanks guys for actually apple before we go nothing. The blood follow me on twitter. Call dylan is me. You have like a final say like a final t._v. Show or uneven that people should watch unrelated to the real housewives. Oh yeah movie actually just watched a couple movies the other night <hes> the king good comedy that was a robert deniro. Marne scorsese film from nineteen eighty two it was pretty good and i was the highway man starring kevin kevin costner woody harrelson. There were good. That's really speaking to my audience. I'm sure yeah branching out yeah. So what have you been in watching any recommendations. I watched them horrible stuff like don't watch american honey wish i'll above that was terrible. I tried to watch watch. The movie eighth grade also terrible. Oh i've heard that i've over yeah. It was really disgusting. I didn't finish it <hes> i. Let's see what i liked. <hes> yeah we already talked we. We're going to talk about that movie. <hes> always be my a key issue q. and <hes> t._v. Why it was cute. This is like a great unexpected acted script. I think only does the only produce it or happy madison yeah for sure it was good i enjoyed it and and i think to cares if you like food shows the chef show which is based on the movie the shah okay ask us about this. It's so good. It's such a great cooking show. Oh if you like we watch. We watch that salts fat yeah. That's goodi if the girl wasn't so awful oh yes i would play the girl she was okay. I don't think she was the best. I liked her. She is sweet. I listened to a podcast yes with her on it and i found her fine so i think they should have happier with somebody else kind of counter but it was cool like going all those different places us awesome earning. The pig pig when i was fascinated was almost missile one. He got a mess the pig i didn't i didn't see the pig was the fat fat one. Maybe leave it watching sifi because my boyfriend likes finite joanne yes but if you want to laugh at some horrible sci fi films uh-huh like watching the rooming steelers <hes> logan's run is horrible that will make you laugh sounds horrible also add dune soon. I think is it called dune. Dum de de you any not terrible with the rock. Yes yes yes for sure if you find those watch them because they will make a movie that you should go out and watch serenity starring bikaner. Hey anne hathaway <hes> yeah. We got to go to a live podcast called. How did this get made with paul scheer. Jason zukas in june diane rayfield and it was hilarious. I talked about that movie literally. How in the hell did that movie get made and star matthew mcconaughey and anne hathaway was the worst thing i've ever seen. It was like a video game thriller care car and watch. The wholesale was awful. It was the worst five dollars of ever spin on youtube uh-huh oh man yeah but also totally worth it. I don't watch agley dolls. That one was bad if you oh yeah it's still giving me cringe. Cringe muscle kelly clarkson. Oh as horrid is the word. I'm sorry audience. I am not trying to diss on all this. I feel like i've had no luck in the movie and tv department lately so will you got to watch these gyms. Yeah yea all about it. I would be at right up under your boob at the marquee taken a photo with you. Oh my god she was just leave it. She would hold her amazing amazing just amazing lillian who in everything that comes out for sure <hes> i am going to recommend a podcast that i just came out. It's called <hes>. I had a confronting simpson. What is it confronting confronting o._j. Simpson it's by kim goldman who has <hes> ron goldman sister. It's a really good podcast. Anything like true. Crime related twenty-five years <music> an o._j. Simpson is on twitter. If you haven't checked that out it is horrendous. Go give him apollo no i. I wouldn't give him a follow but ah the hit. It is just mind boggling. He's on twitter jeopardy baby. I also your the real housewives and you like russians. I listen to this podcast which always inspires me every day. It's called ju- scoop with heather mcdonald. She's awesome. She does has like stand up shows if she's ever in your city should go check it out. She's so funny <hes> she has these barbie videos where she gets all the like barbie's that look like all the housewives lives and she does like voices for each of them. It's amazing she just she used to be on chelsea lately so she's really funny so if you ever if you need a new <unk> <unk> housewives related or she talks about housewives and all reality shows really anything juicy has what's called juicy scoop shot so does like true crime stuff. <hes> just talks about everything but it's a fun podcast. Listen to highly recommend so all right. We'll end on that note. Thanks so much for listening and goals see you hopefully next week.

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Comments By Bravo: RHOP Sip & See, Erika vs. Memes, Bethenny x Dorinda x Paris, Michael Darby Lost Footage + A Conversation with The LadyGang

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Comments By Bravo: RHOP Sip & See, Erika vs. Memes, Bethenny x Dorinda x Paris, Michael Darby Lost Footage + A Conversation with The LadyGang

"Hi Guys. I'm Emma I'm well and welcome back another episode of comments. I'd Rav Oh hey, is I have I miss you already I know you guys is valid I saw each other and Julie for the second time since March this weekend and it was I. Really. Genuinely like I needed that for my soul me we other twice we were really spoiled. It was amazing. How do you feel how are you feeling about this episode? I'm really excited I kind of love today's stories and I loved this week's Potomac. So we're going to have a great episode. Yeah. I was kind of thinking about how like six or so months ago we were conceptualizing what we wanted this podcast. We were kind of like manifesting it could survive as its own episode once a week and I feel like we weren't worried as we were trying to figure out exactly how it would go and I feel like it's taken us a couple. Of. Weeks to kind of get our flow in our figuring out like okay. There's a necessary news story. We talk about that I were figuring out and thank you all for your patience and also is I feel like we're in our rhythm now totally and I love getting everyone's feedback seeing what people are the most interested in what they're commenting deeming us about and it's like the most fun conversation ever and we love you guys in. We love doing this I guess thank you for wanting to analyze. Bravo in the way that we do I don't think everybody does but like we clearly have somehow found our people and that's something we really appreciate. So thank you. Yeah I. Agree with us. It's it's still fun discourse. Totally. You don't have to agree I just want people to WanNa talk about it. That's what I love. Yeah. Which is why we always say and I'll say it again this week and Julian I stayed on the crash episode like if you have thoughts about something when you're watching the episode when you're reading a story just must your thoughts wait maybe if even we don't respond to the Inbox, they read them and I think it makes us more informed podcasters so continue to do that please. Okay. Shall We? Yell. Let's get into it. So. Let me give you guys a little bit of rundown about what we're talking about today. WE'RE GONNA start out with Paris Hilton and Arinda on Bethany podcast or then GonNa talk about one of the most unexpected stories ever, which is Erica Girardi verse Bravo mean accounts then getting into that Michael Darby footage that I'm sure all of you have seen by now and then of course, Sundays Potomac going you know plotline by plotline heavy focus on mony candidates, but also some of the other elements and Let's do it. Now. Let's go. So, let's start out with durant and Paris Bethany podcast. The first thing I want to say before we get into it is Bethany Frank having a podcast just makes so much sense. I mean I can't believe it took this long I'm glad I did because clearly she is doing it right and in the right time for her and things had to happen. But while she was born for this, it's kind of like if you are somebody who has really missed her confessionals, I feel like I got that from her podcast does that make sense to you? Totally it fills that void of just like Bethany quick sharp one liners and I like it because obviously every housewife and their mother has a podcast on so many business people and TV, personalities have podcast but she brings her unique quality, which is that she can talk business with the best of them and she so sharp and smart and business savvy, but she has that just Warm Quirky. Personality and I think people really warm up to her they answer her questions. She asks different kinds of questions and she is not afraid to go there and it's just it's such a pleasure to listen to. I love it. You're right. It totally fills the confessional hole that I had in my heart. Yeah. So in this episode, she had Arinda and Paris Hilton they weren't together, but it was both of them the same episode, totally different topics and you know whisper industry spoke about a lot of really interesting things I think even during the said that it was kind of probably the most honest she's been since the announcement of her leaving the show. And I felt like the first thing was just the general vibe that you could get out how authentic their friendship is why I think that's why she was able to open up so much not only because they're such good friends but because Bethany has been exactly where durant is obviously a different way but she gets the whole house life thing and not just the housewives. Thing The New York housewives thing and she gets out at works and she knows about taking a season often may be coming back like that's something really unique that you obviously can't relate to a lot of people about suicide from them being comfortable as friends during this time with Bethany and her daughter, and they really do have like a loving friendship on top of that too. For Bethany to have walked in her shoes already. Is like such a unique experience. So Bethany asking the right questions is like amazing and she was really comforting I think for to. Totally I think that I think that durant really values Bethany input in Beth knees advice and insight, which is really nice quality having a friend but they were kind of talking about her her leaving. She said yet they're not going to say that I'm technically was fired. They're going to do it as more of a little bit of a kind of break contingent on what ends up happening. She's like but I'm old fashioned I'm either in and are I'm not. She's like for me I. Kind of did view it that way and she said, you know she was tempted to kind of. Go out there and respond in a way to do prostate do all of the all those things but she didn't and Bethany was kind of saying how From where she stands, that was such an atr decision because she has seen so many housewives handle it with such a lack of grace and she felt like Arinda handled her exit. So excellently, which I don't think I had thought that much about until they were talking about it. Yeah, she handled it really well, she was everyone both parties were pretty honest about the fact that this wasn't the end forever, which I think is like a weird blurred line because of course, they're just not renewing her contract but I think the overall vibe coming from the network and the production company was you the door will still be open it just not the time right now and Bethany made the best comparison analogy which was. During the sounded excited. She knew this was a hard season going in. She said, I had all the shit going on my life, my house by broke up with my boyfriend I broke my read my father was sick I knew this would be a bad season but Beth analogy was it kind of sucks? It's like when you go on a bad first state and you had some shit in your teeth or you said something that you might not. have. Wanted to say but you WANNA be able to redeem yourself. You want to go in the second date and be like see this is who I really am. I could be better I learned from my mistakes and Durand I think wanted that and it's also become such a big part of her life that she was thinking in terms of the show and what would be relevant in her life. So to not have that was like probably a big. Slap in the face whoa moment. Oh totally, and I felt like you know Bethany kind of you're right. was comforting her on that and was and was saying how? She, Bethany said listen we've seen this time and time with housewives. You have a bad season and you comeback and you're ready for your kind of comeback season and so durant wasn't necessarily given that luxury immediately but I, think through her processing this she realized that this was so much the healthier choice. So like I genuinely felt listening to render honestly there wasn't a bitterness and I was expecting to feel that there would be a little bit of a bitterness and I genuinely didn't get that impression. Yeah I think also. She. She knows she's go back I. Really do think that that was the complete vibe I had and it was there was no bitterness like a Vicki Gumbel center example who still feel such ownership over the show and just can't believe that she was demoted in kicked out Dorada did not have that at all and I think that was really refreshing and honestly what we wanted from her. In the reunion remember are we were hoping and praying that she would feel remorseful be able to look back. But I think during the reunion time she was still too in the thick of it. She was still in that funk, and now there's been enough time where she's reflected. Obviously, this decision was a big wake up call. Quarantine she spent time she's talked she's lived with the decision. Now, what I'm hearing Bethany podcasts is exactly what we were hoping. She would be like during the reunion times it she just wasn't ready then. So now I feel like especially to have a whole year, even coming from today listening to this podcast, she's going to be refreshed and ready to go and no, and get back on track. That is I am so glad that you just said that because that is exactly what I felt the longing that we felt after watching all three parts of the reunion and just so badly wanting to render to show any sign of remorse or like humanity you know when it came to her behavior and especially coming from you and I really. Really. Like her and it was missing we never got it. So even in this very short, what ten minutes fifteen minutes, whatever it was I felt like she was much more on the same page as all of us and honestly as a viewer in a someone was gonna Fan for a long time not to sound ridiculous and I felt like I needed that. Yeah. It was what we are waiting on the diversity for the whole time. What we knew was in her to realize we knew she had that self awareness in there somewhere, but the reunion and even watching the season and. She was just too in the thick of it. Still she was still in that place wasn't enough time between that. We as viewers felt like it was it just wasn't. I think now she is so reflective and understanding and I think giving this year off to just be herself and really live with where her life is at and be comfortable and. Watching. The sidelines it's going to be exactly what she needs. Maybe she'll need two years maybe need three maybe she'll be back next season. We don't know obviously, but I feel good about where she's at now and I feel like even this interview just tied it in a bow and left with a good taste in my mouth that I didn't have before. One I. Totally agree with you and second of all the last thing about this portion of the podcast I wanted to talk about was I think one of the most interesting things they were speaking about which probably came from the fact that you're talking about durant and Bethany these are. Two of the women in the entire all housewives franchises that speak it is most likely it is you know straight to the point kind of honest and the way they were speaking about how lives in general and what that job has become personally for me. I found very interesting like you know they were saying, Bethany said she said, I think it's really scary for a lot of people what they're going to do for employment after she said, this is not like you're twenty four years old and. You lost her job. She was like most people that are on housewives are in their fifties. That is the average age. He's like so what you're GonNa Stop House is and go get a job at IBM. It doesn't really work like that. You are far into the course of your career in the course of your life and they were saying that it becomes so much part of your identity. You know it's a huge financial reward you start to just think your mind starts to think in terms of. Filming in terms of the show, and so I felt like that just speaking generally forgetting about them was interesting hearing to former slash current housewives kind of reflect on did you find? Did you feel that as well? Yeah. Just how it it does become your life and also thinking about it as a job which I think a lot of viewers definitely don't think about the paycheck and how it's like a huge source of income. You're right to start a quote career at this age like this is really Really rare and is something that pretty much only housewives type of show can provide, and also like during the was saying, you know this woman is making gingerbread house of bluestone manner. I thought how good of a content that would be for the show and they're probably thinking in terms of Bravo Khan and what's going to be there next thing and their tag lines and merge, and they're going on press, and it really is because it is about your life it becomes so tied into your life that. When she was saying also now Munc- friends that I couldn't see when I was filming and it didn't work in my schedule. It didn't work in the show like she's going to be able to go back to herself and take a step back and yet it was. It was so interesting. It was so short like I think we even talked about it longer than the actual interview was that there was so much meat there. I mean, I could talk forever. Yeah. I was excellent. I highly recommend listening I feel like people are going to think that this is like some sort of an ad because we did a podcast walk with Bethany were in our some of our episodes we were promoting her podcast but I promise you this is like not a deal. This genuinely is on I have been talking about this for the last week. So now to be able to talk about publicly I, just exciting for us. Yeah. On equation liquidate you'll see that it's so good. We she doesn't even need ads. Somebody, we'll talk about this inventory, but somebody nestle can like, Hey, guys just wondering is Bravo paying each promote Potomac we were like, no, it's just that good. That was clearly someone who's never watched Potomac also that that made me so happy I'm like, okay. You know what? If we're getting it out there enough that people think we're being paid we're really we're doing our job is bravo lovers. Yeah I wasn't even mad about that. I was like, no but I'm happy that you ask. and. So in the second half of this episode was Paris Hilton and I think last time when we were recording, that's kind of when you mentioned how. To be your babysitter kind of forgotten about that. But they started off with a moment of nostalgia and Bethany was talking about how she net higher for the first time ever when the hiltons would go to a scholar for Chop Salads Bethany was the hostess there. That's how she became friendly with the family. That's how she became Paris and kind of nanny babysitter and they were just reflecting on their times together how she would take you know Paris to the store excetera unlike. I felt like starting it off there for what was about to be very kind of. Business, focused episode added a little bit of warmth. Yeah especially, because Paris has been on such a press tour right now and I've watched on so many shows and podcast interviews and even watching her documentary. To have that established based with Bethany of knowing her family knowing where she came from knowing her as a little girl saying she took her to the pet store and how close she has with. Kyle and. Having that before they dug deep into all the all the documentary and her life and the abused that Paris experience at her boarding school. It was a it was a great way to set the scene. I think Paris was a little more comfortable and I mean, I loved the insight like Bethany. Bethany is like so detailed when she tells stories, she literally saying like You know we went to the store rampage, your MOM's store, the the staircase, take you the century city like she remembers all of the little details that it's. She's not just saying, Oh, as your babysitter I worked at a restaurant like she is going point for boy point remembering exactly what they did and what happened and. For Paris probably such a heartwarming moment. Yeah totally in more than heartwarming I. think that's something that we've. I was I didn't know this was something that we've kind of learned about Harrison based on her documentary and kind of just think she's been doing recently is like it takes a lot for her to get there with someone you can tell she has this alternate persona even could hear it in this episode sometimes, she would switch to that voice. That's a little bit more of kind of like. A baby high pitched voice that she says, she put that on and so I felt like it was so important for the entire episode for like her to that comfort because I don't think it comes naturally to her you know I think Paris and they spoke about this how many times they've both been fucked over in business people thought they could trust like she definitely has this wall up so. I definitely think Bethany kind of aided and bringing it down but I thought what was so interesting was when she was talking about The night before the simple life and she said the night before the simple if air my mom said when this airs on Fox tomorrow, your life is going to change forever and I want you to remain in stay the same suite down to Earth Paris that I love and no, and never let this get your head and that's a piece of advice I've always used. I love that right I loved yet and to your last point also I think Paris. Probably felt a sense of like she had to be herself like that Bethany not that you wouldn't put up with it but that Bethany new the real her she knew her as a kid she knows her family she probably knows like intimate things about them she. I. Think Bethany is much closer with Nikki. Now, then Paris, just obviously because of their lifestyle but even for parachute was like, Holy Shit like you're my nanny. Now you're this boss bench like how crazy and full circle our lives are. So Paris felt like this sense of she had to be really true to herself and bringing up these family anecdotes and she even talked about some of her prized possessions, her twenty first birthday dress I fucking loved when she dropped that but. She had this. Bethany. Knows Paris she knows her well. So she had to really be as true to herself she could be. Oh totally, she knows the family she spoke about this sibling dynamic between Paris and Nicky. How even though Paris's the older sister anyone would think that it was Nikki based on the way that she acts and if you watch the documentary and again I highly highly recommended, you see Nikki is much more than one that feels like the kind of older sister a little bit more of a maternal figure to Paris. I always think that she's older. Yeah. The whole thing was excellent. I love the way they spoke about business. I have grown so much respect for her in such a short amount of time that being able to hear these two women together. Honestly for me was like very, very inspiring. It was kind of like exactly what I needed was thirty something minutes. It wasn't too long. It didn't feel draining and I was like, wow, these are women that I am very inspired career perspective by. Yeah, and it was like I said, I've listened to so much Paris in the last couple of months and it was things that I haven't heard her really say and in a way that she hasn't said them before which is really hard to do. But Bethany totally went there just because of how is but also because of what she knows about Harrison, what she knows about the industry in like amazing not an ad I can't stress enough. You guys should definitely listen to it. Yeah. I swear not bad we will tell you. Okay. Let us talk about this Eric Situation. Isabel take it away. I'm GONNA give a brief breakdown because if you wanna read it all, you can go to our page I all of the comments are there you can read through but I think a lot of people logon and they follow some Bravo medium accounts we're probably so fucking can views. The long story short is Erica posted a photo on instagram of kind of this collage of her and Rena and Robin Dixon who were all wearing the pink blazer dress. We know it was a whole thing on Beverly Hills and then Robin happened to wear this week on Potomac to Wendy's daughters. And so brands by Bravo this meam account collage it together with a picture of the pink. Erica Jane Happen to reposted it and in varying I would say normal fashion. This happens all the time brands by Bravo commented on the photo and asked, Hey, photo can you please credit? No big deal you know usually it's happened to us it's happened to a million other people you repose someone's photo or something that they made themselves in put together and came up with. And Erica was not happy about it to say the least she wasn't understanding that she wasn't asking for photo credit and she retaliating justice by saying like you don't own the Image Bravo owns image paramount pictures owns the image from Greece and Kyle Richards this photo basically had a long back and forth with still not grasping the idea. She eventually changed the caption of her photo to say photo credit to Kyle Richards in like a snapback. Basically at this account, a lot of Mimi accounts came to brands by Bravo's defense saying you know this is not her intellectual property, but it is her idea. You just can give credit. It is really cool to be reposted by. Bravo. Liberty was so many followers that you kind of want credit for your work totally fair and Eric was not into it all the accounts Pretty. Much went rogue and we're making. Some of the funniest and craziest means about her about watermarking about not understanding about. Just everything and it was like the craziest weirdest. Arrogant. Even said I had time today. So I got into this. It was just wild to watch unfold even kate chastain chimed in she tweeted it about it being a petty mass and just if you logged on a new were confused about all these memes about pink ladies, Erica Jane. Brands by Bravo. That's what happened. No this was the weirdest thing ever first off what a hell to die on. This is the hell that Erica wants to die on not. Choosing public opinion to really go against her because she would refuse to credit immune account I was like really this is what you. WanNa do today I'm sorry made zero sense to me. Yes. You could talk it up to not really being very involved in me and culture maybe not understanding norms Rooney of this many people telling you this is the way it works I. Think you Kinda just suck it up as volume pride but like we're not going to go there but the second thing that I need to tell you guys. Obviously know about this is. I go on Instagram I'm a little bit confused I like seeing. Israel. What is going on? What are people sending us and Israel's like okay. Don't freak out but we're a little bit involved and I was like, what do you mean? She's like Erica's comments are like on our posts and I was like why she's there's a memoir and I was so confused and Isabelle's explaining. So deep in this play-by-play, and then we're trying to explain it to Julian. She's like what and really don't understand Erica Girardi is feuding with the entirety of the Bravo community. This is the wildest should I've ever seen? No one's ever been more confused than Julie because she wasn't understanding the players and Erica's attitude and how she talks like the memes and water these pink ladies like she was so confused but I will say. The weirdest comparison I can make is that. Cardi, B. Went live this. You guys talked about this on the regular episode Cardi B. Went Live and was basically going off on her fan base and her fan pages about just like some other shit doesn't irrelevant to what I'm about to say. I was saying I was thinking like. Okay you'RE GONNA fight back at accounts that they do is talk about you promote you stan you stand up for you give you highly web talk about your episodes like she wasn't feuding with like Fuck Eric. Girardi accounts she was literally feeding with every Bravo Mimi account that was just trying to explain to her like okay. Here's the deal like you're just like a little bit of a disconnect i. really needed someone to just sit down and Look this has nothing to do with actual photo credit like this could have easily been avoided. You just pop a little tag in the corner, give her a little ad in the caption. So not a big deal could have been avoided, and now everyone's like Oh God like why did you have to go there? Why did you do that? So was not the biggest deal in the world not the worst thing that could ever happen but definitely different. No definitely different and the last thing I'll say on this is. I I really nodding and saying this in a joking matter like I do think that when you are a reality star or a celebrity, Earth specifically a bravo liberty, it's important that the Mimi counts view you favorably because. A lot of times. Nimes can kind of shift public perception. So especially, the Erica's on for the next season to me becoming at war with an entire mean community. It's just like maybe not the move like strictly from a PR perspective I just can imagine her her representatives being like what the fuck was happening here because to me is just these are not the people you wanNA fight with it's one thing to come at your haters these are people that are genuinely supporting you. So it was absolutely bizarre. Yeah, I'm. Although I'm Kinda glad it happened because what a story that I never expected to report on no, and it also Danielle who runs brands by Robert said it best it brought everyone together. Now all these accounts have an inside joke it's funny. It happened will move on. We'll probably still love Erica she still going to be her but yeah, never never never saw this coming. Never dull moment. If you shane any part of your body you need to listen to the product Tell you about because seriously seriously from the bottom of my heart this is a game changer. Okay. Let me start by saying I feel like. So commonly, we have the action between really kind of cheap disposable razors than very overpriced ones. This company just changes the game on that. So there's this razors called the Athena Club Razor, and the first thing is that they are expertly designed with the sharp patented blades on the market, but they also have this. Thing where they're enhanced with highly acid in shea butter. 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You literally see Michael Sneak up behind a camera man and grabbed his ass squeezes ass in plain sight. And undeniably, like like undeniably, and if you guys remember if you're an og potomac watcher. This is the exact same party that Andrew Katie Ross husbands. Says comes up at the Party, the same party and says, Michael Darby just grabbed my ass on the dance floor also on film they also show it replay it but. It's a little bit less clear. It definitely happened but that was a huge topic of conversation and then if you remember again in season four Michael's accused of grabbing a cameron's but at. Monique's house and the cameraman charges against him. So obviously a big big pattern for Michael Darby. It's his thing he at he says, he wants to squeeze raise. It's just like this is a continuous plot line for Michael Darby but the fact that that was sitting there for all these years we are now on season five and nobody has realized it nobody has cut that clip nobody has been watching closely enough in the background to see. It and that it hasn't been brought up at any that reunion or any others is crazy like someone just randomly binge watching it one day it was like am I the only one who ever noticed like they were just happened to be looking at that screen. It was unbelievable like I wonder what other things and other shows we are missing and that hundreds and thousands of people and editors have is on this and never saw it. Except this random rather user last week. That is all I was thinking about I was like I literally going to be like as well. We need to go back and from season one every single franchise to see what we were missing because if someone missed that imagine what else is being missed like I also have to say I recognize that like this was not at all. You know this this was sexual harassment. Let's just call it what it is. That's exactly what was happening and it was in plain sight and I personally felt like vindication on on behalf of the men that have accused him for saying like here's one that you absolutely can't deny. The. Season for reunion when they were kind of going back and forth and it was like his word verse mine, you didn't see any footage you only heard the voice so to really be able to kind of see this and to know that, Michael Darby is now not going to have a defense to me that made me happy. That is that was a silver lining of this to be like you know what you are no longer allowed to make these people feel like they're making shit up our make them feel like they're going crazy 'cause you motherfucker did this and now we're all here to see it. Yeah even in that season. Look. We were all like, of course you did it. You have been you say it all the time. It is a thing you do for whatever reason we know you did it to Andrew Fine. But now to see him, do it to a cameraman who's just standing there by himself in absolutely vindicates the other cameraman while I don't think it was the same guy but it totally. Proves that he was not lying and that the audio that we heard is exactly what he said it was and I pray pray pray pray there is so much. It's going to go down at this fucking season five reunion but I am begging that Andy brings up. This never before seen footage that was has just been sitting on Hulu. Collecting dust, that none of us, all of Michael, Darby grabbing the cameraman and He has to explain himself. That's what I WANNA see I. WanNa see him have to explain himself I really do think that Andy will not fail some this because I think that Andy and Bravo in general has been so much better recently with reunions about bringing things completely offscreen things i. mean. This technically was onscreen but I'm saying this kind of revival of this footage happened completely offscreen random read it user like I feel like they've gotten so much better upbringing those things into the conversation and so for the sake of the men that he did that too for Ashley Sake and I just I hope that happens I. I'm sorry I can't stand this guy like even. Get into it in the episode in in a couple of minutes we're going to talk about their session and clearly he has gone through things in his life. I wish him only the best and I know every single person is true. We don't know what other people are going through right like I don't wish harm on how ever he makes it so hard. To root for him because of the way, the condescending nature with which he speaks and so to see something like this where it's like, you have to come out and say that you were liar or just be okay with everybody knowing that there is a level of that feels like I guess the the part of me that seeks justice unfairness really feels that strongly. Michio. ME. Tell. If you guys are anything like me on my job is kind of the only shopping even doing recently. So I wanna tell you about something that is a complete game changer I feel like a lot of you're familiar with it but if not, it's called honey and it's a free browser session that basically kind of scancen Internet, for Promo, code and then automatically applies the best one available at checkout. So, this is how it works. You get on the honor computer for free it's too easy. Clicks go to join honey dot com slash celebs. 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We laughed so much. We Watch SNL together. Julia was freaking out when Chanson Justin Ron. Was a dream it wasn't real. I can't leave for doing this. I was looking back on our tax a couple months ago, and it's just crazy that we're doing this like I feel like I have that moment every like mid these episodes, I don't know I just had it. So. Okay. This episode of Potomac I guess in the scale of Potomac wasn't as crazy but still really good. Episode, basically leading up to Wendy's daughters Cincy, and we really got to see a lot of insight into her family into this rich beautiful Nigerian culture. We'll talk about that in a couple of minutes, but that is the event, the biggest Mooneegan candice discussion took place. So I feel like, why don't we get out some of the other lines out of the way first and then we'll get into that. Yeah. Let's start with Michael Darby while while hot on him. Yes. Please tell us about that therapy session. So Michael and Ashley had another therapy session with her doctor and. Whenever anyone on the shows in a therapy session. I'm like a magic having a whole camera crew at a therapy session league that is insane to me. Could never even speak to a therapist in front of one other person let alone a foe camera crew let alone knowing going out to the world. So that's always in the back of my mind. And They're there because Ashley is still obviously end, of course. Allowed to be very upset about Michael's indiscretion that he had. With this other woman with the photos leaked obviously you guys now. and. She's really struggling what you see here with. Before they had the baby. They, they really had. Not Super Traditional relationship where they were having threesomes whatever their quote arrangement was. It wasn't the straight you know black and white monogamous they had laid. They like to have fun. They were open to new things and she's made that really clear but what she? Found out about herself after having the baby was that she was just not open to that anymore and clearly the lines have been to blurred that Michael is. You know I think he feels a little bit like his actions can be excused like well, it's it's the definition of if you give an inch, take a mile, right? Like she was open to experimenting they would do things together as a couple with her permission with her. Blessing and he took that and ran with it and she is not okay with that and I. To me the way she keeps speaking is this was the last Straw. He has one more chance and if he is not able to change and. Be The husband and the father that I need him to be I will leave. Oh. Yeah. I mean. There's so much there about what you said and I I agree with all of your points and I also think you know listen I think all of us have this thing of like Ashley. You are such a catch. What are you doing with this guy? However she has her reasons whatever they ours were all kind of going to accept it and like give her the grease to figure it out. That's one thing but something that I really. Applaud Ashley Four even if we some of US can't understand why she stuck around a lot of times what happens in relationships where there are a little bit more experimental? Maybe they're not as quote traditional you WANNA call it. The lines are kind of blurred about what's acceptable and what's not and a lot of times what happens in heterosexual relationships and this is just a generalization, but it does happen just typically more. The woman often feels like this responsibility to kind of. Not, conform to what the guy wants sexual even in a way to kind of seem like the showgirl like, no, no, no Dr. do it not necessarily speak up when the lines are blurred too much especially because a lot of times denise situations, it's a little bit of a grey area which. I mean any therapist we'll tell you a grey areas where people get hurt right. But a lot of times what happens after that is there isn't there isn't an acknowledgement that the woman is is in speaking up enough and so. What I felt like was really admirable and as it should be, but it isn't that common for Ashley to speak up to like hold on pump the brakes I'm GonNa tell you right now I'm not comfortable with this, and if that's too much for you if you can't deal with this, if you need a woman that is a little bit more down than on not your girl and it takes a lot of strength to kind of be able to do that even though theoretically we all should and so like I do think on a certain point you have to. Give her Kudos to that. Even if you disagree with the way that she handles things that I make that point clear or not. Really. Yeah. Absolutely, and back to that other point I'm obviously just inferring this I know nothing about Michael's first marriage but. I'm sure. She is taking parts of what he says. He didn't work with his first wife and you're right wants to be the cool young. It probably is her preference too by the way I think she is really stuck in like who she is and she isn't. and. Honest and experimental type of person like it's not off brand for me at all that she would be down for that but probably his last marriage if it was super strict monogamous, I'm honestly completely assuming that I feel like he might have cheated on his first wife. I think like that extra pressure of knowing what failed in his first marriage not wanting to have the scene things happen in your marriage is probably a big burden. Another thing I felt like I was happening and you one hundred percent though this this and I didn't say 'cause I wanNA talk about it now. Michael I'm not trying to invalidate his feelings but Michael, the entire time was trying to out therapist the therapist he wanted to give these. Answers that went deep down into his childhood. You know the second. Judas question he would say, well, it's because of this and I know why and here's the track and I'm GonNa say as much as I can so that you don't get to announce analyze me anymore did you feel that like every time that she or Ashley would say something he wanted to like out therapists them and have the right answer. A thousand percent and somebody looking at this that views him in a favorable light may have said, oh please you can't commend self-awareness nobody's taking away from that. This is not to me that didn't come across self-aware to me came across as condescending and also wanted to control the situation because if you're the one that's going to psychoanalyze yourself, nobody else is gonna be able to because you know damn. Well Michael that anything else that anybody is going to psychoanalyze you for is going to be a lot more quote damaging than what you're gonNA save yourself. You know what I'm saying is he such a raging narcissist? So it's like, I appreciated his points they were absolutely valid. He's definitely gone through dramatic things in his life as we all have. But yes, the way that he can about it was A little bit kind of like excuse space and you are so so so right about that. Yeah of course, like the stuff about his growing up in his childhood and how his father treated him I. One hundred percent believe that has something to do with how he behaves now. But just the way he was coming at it almost felt like he's been to so many therapy sessions that he was saying what he's been told a million times and didn't WanNa hear this this today's discussion even though. It's clearly different thing like it's a new situation. It's a new problem you're in a new place in your marriage I? Don't know that was just like so glaring to me like watching that scene owes like he's trying to he wants to switch places with this woman and it really bothered me. Yeah Let. Me Read I his exact quote that he said about his upbringing but then I want to talk about something with the baby. But he said my father focused on one child me to the point of severe emotional distress and what did obviously is that the person that you've cared for and loved unconditionally when things aren't good I go into my own little shell and do things from time to time that I shouldn't do. I feel good about myself to feel like somebody does care about me. Like that steam and vacuum is absolutely. Valid and introspective in like he has definitely gone through things that may have influenced the way that he behaves however. When you add the Michael Darby effect fact, it just can't help come across as. Lacking a bit of sincerity and also coupled with narcissism. Do you understand what I'm saying? It's like it's not a lot with the I feel for him but it's just he makes it so hard to like him right while they she he wasn't letting the therapist and Ashley like help him connect the dots together with all of them. It was like she asked a question was like, well, it's because my dad and this is why he did that and this is where I am now in this is what I do and got that like I answered the question redone yet I don't know like was such a minor detail, but that was just the overall vibe of the therapy session and I think just like was totally worth noting and I was so excited to save you notice that too. Definitely, the last thing that I quickly want to talk about this I know there's much more interesting things but was when he said to her the baby's created restrictions, we owe it to him I owe to you. It's like I I'm not married. So I don't know what this is like but I've heard a lot of people that I know are that are married people that know they're engaged. and. They have this fear of like. I'm afraid that once the baby comes into the picture, you know assuming that they are on the track to being pregnant or some that are pregnant as they like once the baby comes into the picture I'm afraid that like it's going to have a really negative impact on our sex life and I felt like this was the manifestation of so many women's fears in terms of. Like. He was on his in what he was saying but in in so many ways it was like he was blaming that for the downfall did that you know what I mean. Yeah and also that he in a way is very jealous of the baby in a way of he gets all of Ashley's attention. He is now number one like if it came down to it, she chooses her child over her husband that how their marriage is. Obviously everybody's different but. She he is everything to her and at one time that was Michael it was hundred percent him at all times. So like that wedge between them and it's such an easy excuse for him and her feeling the guilt of like I'm not even able to lease my husband. It's hard and it brings me back to a couple episodes ago when they were going to monique's Lake House and he was like really guilting her like the baby can't be away from you like you have. To take the baby, it's such a weird balance and I almost feel like sometimes he uses the baby is an excuse to like manipulate the situation and maybe she does to it. It is a big point of contention and obviously changes your life so much but I felt that same feeling I felt when they were in the bedroom and he was like, you know it's good for baby to be away from their their mother you have to take our like that's just how it is. Right, and then she takes the baby and he cheats on her so. Like yeah exactly. Exactly. What I'm saying he there's something really off about that guy and I. I. do hope that he I hope that they figured out and that doesn't mean that they stay together. I hope that she does whatever is best for her because she needs to focus on herself in that child. Should another run away Yeah Anything mentioned about carrying and ray before we move onto candice. Monique. Yet really quickly because this was not as juicy as a Michael Nationally but they went on a walk they're talking about their marriage kinda continuing the conversation that they had with that therapist counsellor woman about how he cannot say that he is in love with her and how they're changing and he brings up a point which to me was a very, very subtly big fourth wall break about how this quote fame and fortune and her becoming a public figure a celebrity in her own way like a housewife has affected her and changed her and also. been become a part of their relationship and kind of in the way we were just talking about with Dorada of it becomes such a big part of who you are and it gives you this restart in your fifties like Karen to literally become a persona. How that affects your marriage like that is such a big thing and I think we rarely see conversations. Between husbands and wives on the show about that and to me that was like, okay. Wow. Her becoming a housewife is a big deal and clearly affects them after twenty thirty years. Oh my God a thousand and it goes back to what we were just talking about previously of like I wonder what else we've missed the footage. That's exactly how I felt like I wonder what other couples have had this conversation after the. The wife has seen such success on the franchise like you could really see an an I could imagine like people looking at the situation thinking like come on rages. Let her shine. Let her have her moment and I think that's one argument. But I could also see the other side of at least he was being honest at least he was whether or Not, you want to look at that as like wanting to downplay herself or not being as happy for her success. I do think the number. One thing you have to ask for in a marriage is like honest and clear communication and he at least was laying out how he felt whether you want to add at our pick that apart that's one thing but. She's asking from say he feels that he did. Yeah totally. That's the honesty that she was really expecting for him and getting to the root of the issue going back to her hometown. I feel like was really good for her and I think it was good for ray to see her like reconnect with her roots and remember where she came from and their disconnect was about she was like, are you intimidated by me being this businesswoman? You know like her perfume Paris Hilton here with the perfume business it's really isn't that being a housewife You know starting her business and she's not just a wife to him anymore she is her own brand at her own standing and he was like, no, it's not so much about him being intimidated it just about her being different back to the conversation they had with the counselor. So yeah, I don't know it was like not a huge deal, but it was really interesting and I am curious to see I think they'll make it through I. think it's just like a bump in the road, but the communication is definitely in the right direction. Yeah I think too I, I, really do. Like? Yeah. I'll leave to that. Okay knowing. So could you is about this company before but Chorus Seltzer is launching the world's easiest volunteer program. So the way that it works is you're doing by simply opening a can of course, saucer you're volunteering. So our waterways are at risk. Obviously, that's no secret eighty percent of America's rivers are drying up and so basically through a partnership with change the course cour- Seltzer helping to protect and restore America's rivers. So. 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Com for every twelve paxil through August thirty first two, thousand, twenty one causal services from change the course to restore five hundred gallons of freshwater details at core Seltzer dot. com. Celebrate Responsibly Chorus Brewing Company. Fort Worth Texas. Okay. This fucking. SIPPY. UNPACK here so much on back here. First let's give an ODA to Wendy, and her family and this kind of contagious energy that I felt like just watching it. You could feel like they were just all so happy to be there and so in celebration of this little beautiful girl in her life and. Even everything going on with these family I felt like they both. Had A really graceful way of not letting that kind of damper the mood and I just was watching at such off like, wow, I thought. The Jews well, these Nigerians really know have a good time. First of all the party looked so fun. But on top of that, I'm really really intrigued. I want more about that how the Nigerian society is constructed like how Eddie's mom and Wendy's mom are both these like high up figures in the community and how it affects the dynamics like it's so interesting and hearing them talk about it and the cutest like satisfied that literally made me want to cry was when Eddie saying how he was giving him son one of their sons a bath and the Sun was like does your dad also have a beard like I've not why have I never met him? That literally, I. I was choking up at that because it was such a raw like real family moment and so obviously vulnerable them to share that, and then to see his family, not even show up and how the politics of marriage and the jobs all affects everything it was like it was really really. Just. So interesting to see an honestly like a kind of story we haven't seen on house is, but also that I just so like happy to learn about. Oh my God i WanNa learn more like when Wendy was saying that Eddie's mom was kind of intimidated by Wendy's mom because they were both such prominent figures within the Nigerian community like. When she intimidated, I wanted to know more about that I. Want I really want her to expand on that? I'm hoping even if it's on house, I shall do it privately because I wanna learn more because she seems like a loving supportive family but you see listen this is not the first time we've seen the way that they are parental figures influence their decision making. We saw just last week with her and her sister when she's kind of figuring out what she wants to do with her life teaching, not teaching and how her mother's opinions at the forefront of her mind which I would imagine his very relatable to a lot of people but. There's just you can tell if there is like a real deep connection within that entire family and I you're so right I WANNA learn more. Yeah. I. Love when the House lives incorporate their parents because I think it gives us a look at them in such a different point of view than when they're just around their friends and we get to see like where they came from the characteristics of their parents that they pick up like the under Simmons was literally Mamadee is a full like. Other cast member in Dallas Doctor. deb Is always on with Bronwyn and even Kansas mom like becomes part of the storyline. So for Wendy season one to really get into like the dynamics of her complicated family and how it's affected her marriage and like that's such a big part of who she is I really appreciate that and I feel like it gets it lets us get to know her so much better. So much faster he has an deeply humbles them. That's kind of the best part about. Total. Can be a housewife with anyone, but now in your and your parents are. Okay this candice Mooney stuff is really wild and what was kind of so interesting year was that. Candice I'm not sure whether or not can actually filed these charges the same day as however it seemed that most of the houses were finding out about the fact that she filed the charges that news broke to the media the same exact day. So like we are really getting their reactions to the news, we see that conversation take place but I felt like the chain of events was very important to understand and kind of like the context of why the discussion was so heightened. Yeah because they found out that this was even happening as they're arriving and sitting at the been see altogether. So when Kansas, walks in there like okay. Hello Elephant in the room. We just found out that you charged with second degree assault like we have a lot of questions. They held back a little bit in Japan down her throat the minute she got there. They had patients. Okay. So we gotta talk about this but to me by number one question, this is like so random and just how my brain works. So, we see candice in the car on her way to the court right and she's talking her mom and basically in her confessional is saying like I was left with no choice. But to file criminal charges, you can't just physically attack someone and there'd be no consequences and the only positive I saw on this was how supportive candidates his mom was being because they've obviously had a lot of issues in the past but I think candice fell one hundred percent so supportive and. Backed up by her mom this that that was a really great snapper, their relationship. But what I wanted to know what? It is so rare. In these cases right that you have actual hd footage of what exactly happened like it's not just here say like this is my side. This is my side witnesses like you have cameras one foot away documenting the entire thing I. Wonder if the courts used that like does that help the cases that hurt the case I have so many logistical questions so much even farther away from the emotions behind it. and. Like the whole thing was just so intriguing to me and how candidates came to this decision and what she was expecting about the jail time like this is wild I mean we I don't think we've ever watched house life physically go to the courthouse and filed charges against another housewife. Absolutely not it was it was wild in the way that it all went down and and you're right. I was wondering that I'm sure someone who has a legal background will message US kind of giving us some insight but. I, was curious. The same thing like it would make sense that footage was shown think about if you're assaulted if their security footage most likely that's going to be used as evidence in the case so. I don't know how deep Bravo wants to go but I imagine they would have to I, don't know obviously that's not at all my area that's released but you know. Let's talk about this, and then I will give some more of my thoughts but like when they're had the table, right and the women are kind of talking to candidates about it. there. was. A very clear. Demeanor. That she was trying to put on in a way which was I don't think she wanted for a second there to be any sort of doubt or uncertainty within her decision like I think she made that decision to file and she was going to show up to that cincy incredibly confident and shore about her choice and like. Really willing to kind of take on any question about do you know what I'm saying? Oh yes she was. Almost very proud of the decision she made and she wanted she was open to the questions. She dig a little worked up at one point but like last week or the week before with after they left Karen's house we so clearly know where everyone stands Karen is so in the middle and so desperately trying to be Switzerland and it is not working for. Her because a lot of them do not see this as an issue with any gray area. It is so clearly black and white like monique assaulted candidates. There is no other way to look at it and Ashley has issues with canvas but also didn't seek down like they all have such different perspectives on what happened and candidates is very happy to say like. You know I want the court system to do what they're gonNA do and like. I think at one point Robbins like we don't want her to go to jail and Kansas is like we don't like she is. Standing her ground and she expects and thinks that everybody should feel the same and she keeps and she brings up like a lot of how it has affected our after I mean. Everyone twitter had a lot to say about the post. It's all around our house saying you're okay. But I don't know I mean the whole just the whole conversation was interesting her and Ashley going back and Forth Oh my God when Chris was like calm down stop like stop. Was that was some shit? No. Knowing that was some I. WanNa talk about that in a second but I need to go back to one of the points that you just said about when they said well, we don't her to go to jail. She said, we don't what I wanted to say was like the fuck off your high horse for one goddamn second. What happened to you was traumatic that should never happen to anyone I cannot imagine how that felt physically mentally and emotionally there's nothing that can say that can defend her actions you. Can say she was asking for it. You can say whatever you want. That was not right. So one hundred percent I will agree with her violence is never the answer however is a mother you're talking about a mother to three young children don't you dare now take this moment take it a little bit too far because to me that is so fucked up I I want to like candice so badly and I feel a great sense of of empathy and sympathy for the pain that she endured as A. Result of that fight. However, she has now taken the genuine trauma from the fight now turned into something that is so much more than it needs to be in like I. Am now going to use this to get everyone against monique and I don't care how milking it. I'm GonNa come across and you WanNa? Know something I really that line really rub me the wrong way especially with everything like not not seriously not to be dramatic like realistically unique was going to be fine but we're also talking about. In a in a climate where like the criminal justice system and the injustices within it are so highlighted and you're going to talk about this. So proudly, what is that showing like there's so many other ways to go about this without you being. So unbelievably condescending about it, I couldn't stand that comment that really like I don't know why it really got to me I feel like I'm yelling sorry I don't mean to yell at I. Hated that comment made my skin crawl me too because it almost felt. It was like a self serving kind of thing. I want. To go to jail because it'll make me feel better not because she necessarily deserves it. But because I deserve it and going back to her kids. These are not only monique mother. Candice knows her kids. Their husbands are best friends there I mean it's not like you're just ripping away a random mother from her family that you don't know not that you ever would want to do that anyway. But then to also have such a personal connection to the family that you would be destroying. It was heartbreaking for me and The way that I felt the whole time is that the way candace was approaching everything from the second degree assault to how she's handling the court to how she's talking about it and how she's presenting herself to the women you. If you just jumped in and watch this episode, you think she was literally randomly assaulted on the street by a stranger right that it wasn't a. It wasn't a fight. It was a random attack and of course, mony as you said, should not have gotten physical it was far and above beyond anything that is appropriate or acceptable by. Wasn't out of thin air she didn't just like come into your car. You know what I mean it wasn't. It wasn't like a random attack on you for no reason out of thin air someone you don't know or someone new do now with applauded plan to attack it it was like. There was like some kind of disconnect and some disassociation that she had with the incident that we were all. It was just a little bit near. Know exactly. There's like. It's really hard to kind of like. It I, 'cause I so S-. So hear what you're saying and I agree with you and I know that like. I knew the overarching point here like if you only had to choose one, it's like violence is never the answer if there's a wrong or right Monica's wrong candidates, right? Right. Like we have to understand that that's the bottom line and I get that but. But I think what's happening with candidates is two things I think on one hand. She's really riding his high of having tangible thing. Orman. Monique was in the wrong and she gets a little bit high off. That's that's fine. Let her have her moment however when she takes it to a really bad extent like kind of implying that jail is would be casual. That's when I have a problem with refine let's just take off the her riding her high I think what you're saying what you're speaking to kind of like the disassociation. I don't even necessarily think that that so much from her hatred for Monique I think that really is much more something. She's spoken about her embarrassment of being associated with this type of incident and we've seen her speak about this on twitter. When someone said you're acting like you've never been in a fight Jesus I haven't like I think it for her. She is really really really wanted to pin down this point of like this is not. Me An, and does this go back to the stereotype we spoke about previously about the angry black woman and her wanting to disassociate from nat stereotype because she's knows that that's not her and his work so hard to not be viewed that way. I'm sure that plays into it. She's spoken about that but I think it even goes further than that like I think the entire situation was one that she wanted nothing to do it so like There's the hatred monique, but also the. What do you mean? I had anything to do with it for Hirsch it's as if I think for hers as if she was randomly attacked. Yeah, exactly and of. If I think that a part of her feels like if she doesn't take these extreme measures that she is taking and treat it like it was a, you know a completely random attack. that it almost as making it okay and normalizing it and. If she treats it like it's no big deal or just treat didn't like it was a normal fight that she's giving it. Like validation that it was okay and this is like a normal occurrence like the tweet that people said like Oh you're never been in a fight before no I get that it was a shocking weird insane I kind of experience that she does not WanNa take lightly and that's exactly the angle she's taking it from. Can We? Can we please talk about Karen and all of this because my God I love Karen but she is literally diving into quicksand right now and it is like a really hard for me to watch because. She's like I said, wants to be in the middle she's playing both sides she. Literally refuses to comment on it because she doesn't want her words be twisted, but we've done even the previews we see and she's tweeting like I said if it was me, I would press charges I didn't tell candidate specifically to press charges but then she wants monique side and she's calling both of that and making sure that they have the same opportunities and. I really do appreciate and respect because I think she does see both sides and she loves these women equally and. It's not like an ashtray situation where she's been in a fight with candidates and can feel the rage that monique might have felt. She really doesn't know what to peg doesn't want to get involved but. That only can last for so long and now I think we're going to be a big problem the unraveling and even is episode was saying I don't feel supported by Carib because by her supporting Mooney get all it is. Cancelling out her support for candice. Right. Yeah. There's a lot here and I think that we're feeling like a sense of. You know you can understand where she's coming from. It is also a little bit of a frustration for me at least that's how I feel because. You are not and I I. Think I said this last week like you are not allowed to differentiate between. This is what I would do in this situation or this is what you should do when we're talking about this you can. You can use that argument with your friends about certain things breaking up with her boyfriend this or that when you have two people that you're friends with and you are saying to one of them, if I were you, I would. Do something that really sucks the other one but that's just me and then to turn around and say that that was a neutral common wasn't just own it. That's okay. There's nothing wrong with saying that and I think a lot of people would argue that there's nothing wrong with pressing charges but she she can't have your cake and eat it too. If you really want to be neutral, you should never made that comment by making that comment, you're siding with candace however. In Kansas is in in Robbins is and I think a lot of there is because she's not going as hard against Nico some of them would want her to she isn't siding with candace, and so I think the Cairns feeling frustration of like are you fucking kidding me and for me as as a you and I don't know if you felt the same way. But for me personally like just because Monique fucked up just because what necas did was a hundred thousand percent on I don't think that means. That like okay. We'll screw her now like I think that there's something to be said for wanting to stand by and recognize just because she did something wrong. She still has emotions and those who tended for and if people in their most vulnerable state, what the fuck does that say about who we are like Karen is being shamed for just wanting to be there for her friend and I don't think that's fair if anyone knows their place and how they're almost a role model or a mother figure or. A therapist whatever a role model. It's Karen Karen. Knows that about herself and she prides herself on that. So when she's GonNa give advice to candidates or when candice asked, what would you do that is couldn't be more clearly a way of giving advice and to say you weren't saying she should do that. But this is what you would do like Dachas ridiculous and you're right you can't you can't expect people to. Change if everyone that they love also drops them back to what Monique said last week you know when Chris was like, oh well aren't you just working on your friendship with it's between you and candace what is it helped everybody else and she's like no because now this created a huge ripple in the group and people are catching me and people have different opinions about me and Everything that came with it. She. It. Leaves her house she's supposed to ever get better and By, ditching her that, you're basically saying we give up on you and we don't care if you ever overcome this if you grow. If you learn from your mistakes, we want nothing to do with you ever again from now on whereas if you have some support system and say, we're going to get through this together and I love you and I know this was a mistake and I wanna see you improve. That's the only way to do it. Exactly. That is what I found myself being so frustrated by it was as if. There was this narrative of like shaming someone for wanting to be there in someone's most. Emotionally tumultuous time like you don't have to agree with Monique's actions to still recognize her humanity and recognize what she's going through like why is Karen being? Being shamed for that because honestly, candice would this. This is what it comes down to honestly I. Don't know what about the rest of them I don't I don't think I can speak for Robyn. Giselle I really do feel like candice would not be happy Karen until she looked at her and said, I will never speak to again until this is solved consider mony. Dead to me and you WanNa know something if you want out of your friend than I think that you're you're choosing the wrong friends because the same way Karen could do that to money. She could turn around and do it to you and like that I think is what I found to be really off putting I don't know I'm so hard to like can. I really know is well, you know that I do I sit down. I write notes on the episode I like try to see it from all sides and I can't see your side and I feel for her but she goes about things in a way that I just feel like. I don't feel that frustration towards any of the other women on the cast but for some reason, there's something about her that it does feel self serving your point is right. It doesn't feel genuine. Right and even Karen says like you know I really wanted to apologize I asked I told her to apologize than the whole thing with the lawyers came out low neak went on about this on twitter about how she did WANNA reach out. But then it was too late because they were all lawyer up and you can't reach out but. Even then candidate is like, well, why does she have to be convinced to apologize and it's like nothing is ever really good enough and Even Ashley is like Chiming in and giving her point kind of like what I said before like. It was a yelling match on both sides like you are treating this like it was just a complete random one-sided thing like you. Know that you ever could see it coming but it wasn't like she just randomly ran up to and assaulted you. You are in fight and candidates like you. You know I'm not angry with you. The way you're choosing to go about a you weren't there. You're only able to go on what your friends is telling you and she was accusing Ashley of. Being paid by Mooneegan ashes like why would I need to be paid like America millionaire and Kansas not for long they can't not fight about this. It will never be good enough. Everyone's perspective is wrong unless it's hers, which is a really hard place to be in especially because it was about you, you have to listen to everybody's perspective and you can't. You can't only listened to the ones that agree and side with what you want to hear because that's not. The. Healthiest way for this situation obviously I can't say. Gone through trauma. That's point blank the end of it. So we can't say what she should or shouldn't be doing but watching it from this bird's eye view of everyone giving their opinion and helping her break it down and her not wanting to hear any event is really frustrating. Yeah. It's like you were literally given this Golden Nugget of the worst thing you could ever do it already is making you look so good to take it to the extent of like don't don't. Now let people turn on you from it. You know what I mean. You have the ammunition to get people to. My people I mean public perception, and also these women naturally against monique like organically from what she did and I feel like it just kind of taking a turn I duNno. Men's us with nobody needs to be can break left it with that. It's like the the aftermath is so much worse. Than If she just had like. You're right. You're right. If it had been left at if that episode was the end of the season, we never saw one thing again no one ever tweeted. We'd never knew anything like we would think what we think and we will be really upset with Monique. But now it's like evolving into this bigger snowball of an issue and sides and personalities and turning people against each other and wanting to rip mother away from her family and like it's gone, it's getting crazy out of control. Exactly and just to go quickly back to the comment you were talking about with between Kennison Ashley when Ashley said a married to a millionaire, why would I need by need money and Kansas looked at her and said not for long? That to me was like one giving me such a flashback to the season for a reunion. But also just like that is housewives that one little interaction is housewives in a nutshell if said to me give me a couple of know textbook that would be right there. Yeah. Like don't throw stones glass houses like everyone has read and a sheet and something to say about the other one. No one's perfect. They all know each other's business and candidate think of that on the spot it's like chef's kiss you're a housewife I wanna read. I started the live tweet round up with this tweet and I think it perfectly sums up kind of how we feel from Miss. Karen he or she said please can we move on from the fight and get to the real reason why this group is fractured at the moment I can't wait. Let's address that. So we can all start fresh and have a good old messy harmless drama filled button. Cotonou said it better myself? Agreed, there's drama, than I, wanted this is just not it. Yeah I just it gets sadder and I miss? Their Fun Times. And? Yeah but I had it gets better every week I can't wait for the fucking reunion be to. Anything else you want to mention about anything. That's that's it for me. Think for me to this is a dream. I love you and we love you guys. Thanks like seriously. Thank you for letting us do this I feel such A. You'll such and such as such a sense of calmness kind of coming over me after that. Yeah. Me Too. It's the best best in the world could not have dreamed it. Better. I love hearing what you guys say. I, Love Your feedback I love your commentary. You make me see things in different ways and like tag in the funniest shit ever we are always laughing at everything and. I just love you and I love all of you and that's offered. That's all she wrote. That's all she wrote. So we are now going to cut to Julian I last week spoke to the women, of Lady Gang I kind of explain this but we basically had done an interview with them back in March and so much changed from the time that we were going to release it. So we kind of did a Redo but to be totally honest with you, we had some serious audio issues so We tried to get it right. But if you here, it's a little choppy, not the normal flow we would naturally do. That's because Julie's audio cut out my audio cut out I don't even think you can really hear Jewiness I don't know is kind of our producer behind the scenes and your. Failed. That's fine. We'll see your at all. It was just you were there it was. It was a little bit of innings it provoking experience they were amazing about it. It was nothing to do with them. It was completely computer issue but I don't even think my audio ended up coming coming through Julius a little bit not really I don't know but they are great and we spoke we want to put in this episode because we spoke to Becca. A lot about different because she really loved Ryndam. We kind of spoke about her leaving this was two or so weeks ago when I felt that that was interesting got into an interesting conversation just about grief and how God manifest itself into your life. So. Cut To that and we love you guys thought our hearts. Thank you for letting us do this. So, we are here with the women of Lady Gang Becca Tobin, Jack Panic and Kelsey night. Hi Guys. Hi this is really a long time coming I am so glad to be talking to you guys, but we followed you on instagram for months and months and months. So we're stoked. So we should just anybody listening basically what had happened was they came into our studio back in March march second literally a week before New York kind of shutdown, and we were prerecording an interview for June all that your book which I want to talk about, and then you know normally banking in episode is okay. But there were so many changes that we just felt like it's better to get on that. We're like life is so great. It's awesome. Where are we going to travel to next? Literally, we were like we camp with this out because I even though it was monster for I think people will think we all sound tone deaf they on everything happening. I was like complaining about Tiktok and we did our first Tiktok ever in your office and then honestly what I just WanNa bring this back around did TIKTOK. Like. Because we talked that the world jumped into a dumpster fire, it might have been our fault everyone. I. Do have to say Kelty's Tiktok rant was one of the funniest things that I've ever heard in my life. So I am kind of sad that we can't hear that but I'm sure there will be another one. Maybe we should just take that one clip and put it in because I feel like it would still be very relevant right now it would almost be I would I feel like the whole world is feeling the way that Kelsey was feeling that day about gas burgess ahead of the time Kelty and it was even before Addison Ray was now beating you out for jobs becca enact no, she's still not beating me. I must say, I, I have to be honest I can't take that one I. Don't think the BECO- is trying to be in the new remake of shoes all that known. About you decades to old blinkered action is a genius though she. That her youth is slipping away just like all of us and hanging on for dear life to a young trendy girl and honestly, I'm looking for that. So come on apply fly. I'm just fascinated like I'm just so interested in I would love a behind the scenes of what goes on because I can't really envision it. I don't even know how to talk to like girls who work with us who are in their early twenties sometimes I just start to talk and see their faces just so embarrassed for me so like I don't get it I don't get how courtney's pulling this off. I'm so jealous like. Back, in my day, I, had to have dialup Internet. And Paris. Hilton was hanging out with Joe Jesse Wa and I'm like if I had to pick a young into hang out with I would totally pick Joe Joe I. Love Joe. See Wah. Oh, my God Josie what is making so much more money than all of us combined. It's fucking believable I. I have a dumb question about her she was from dance MOMS. G Like one of the star dancers or was she kind of one of the She was yeah. Okay. I was GONNA? Say it would be like the ultimate like story of the underdog if she was sort of like. The dancers and then she came out like just guns ablaze in selling boats. I mean issue as like the Kelty of the lady gang you know what he will. Be coolest, one Out there the Lizard. I mean for me the biggest testament to her power was when northwest to has literally seen more of the world than any of us go. Sir How did you the excitement at worst days I was like, okay this must be onto something here. We'll have like a very, very strict rule in the lady gang like we don't punch down lake. So we only talk not even talk shit but whatever we're we're talking right now is about people who are clearly crushing it so much better than we are. So it in that's like most people in Hollywood. So it's just so fun to come on the show. I can't even think of somebody below us that we'd ever even talk honestly and neither can I. Honestly I have been posting the Sassy comments on other celebrity accounts Terai to get noticed. The labs. Like. Yet yet to be reposted. To get on comments by CELEBS, you have to Abia Celeb- and have a really witty comment. And neither of those happened in that one Kelsey you gotta try harder and then get a little bit more famous. Okay. So. You guys were here and obviously we create this whole segment. This must be in June, but since that your book act like a lady has came out and I know, cal do we spoke a lot about your manifesting to the New York Times Bestseller list which clearly it works. So congratulations on that I know audience Kanye the contrast, but I just so vividly remember talking to him about it then it was before it came out like. There was the. Nation I think it was you back that wasn't I don't want to say wasn't fully on board with the idea, but you are still kind of warming up for the entirety of like. Ever, never have no, no, she's still is not there. I said in a world where SNOOKY can be an author it's just not something I'm looking like is not a feather I'm asking to put my cap you. I mean you may be doing. You must be doing something right? Because it was so well received and I guess I'm curious for you guys like. What did that feel like it was finally out it was finally you know you saw at tangible in front of you like you saw the response how how did that feel? So we knew that the list like comes out on a certain day and it pretty much like the year has been quite a dumpster fire and. You just never know if you're going to make the list and we I think all three collectively had kind of like. Well, Becca didn't care at giant like did not care that much like I had cried every day for two weeks like all of our press was canceled. Our tour was cancelled. It was pretty much impossible for us to make the list being who we are. You know. So I had really gotten to a good place with it. I'm like Zan like we still got to write this book I'm so proud of it, and so I really wasn't expecting anything and then Alex One of our producers called me on the phone and it was like noon and I was like I'm so depressed like can pick up the phone I can't work today like I'm fine I'll pick up the phone for her to pick up the phone and she said Hi New York Times bestseller and then. The fuck out I ran upstairs to Chris. I was like crying and then I got the girls on a call and it happened to be in my kitchen I'm on my hands and knees in my kitchen on speakerphone bawling my eyes out calling the girls and being like. She was weeping. Deep deep emotional weep coming home. I remember US talking that it was such a bucket list item for you like I remember. That's so vividly. Yeah I love a goal achieved. You know but it was it was such a thing in I. Think you work on something for so long and then to have it I know it's like a stupid thing but I am a three and Graham and someone who has like a lot of you know mental problems where the only thing that matters to me is achieving things. So this is very, it's just like I'm fucked up and I admit that and achievements make me like very happy. Celtics. Have you warn your one-legged skims before you have a high slicked drawer them under a red carpet dress I wore them. Awards last year. And I bought them full price. and honestly, it was so great because the problem with other shape where the when you cut the leg off when you had a high thing was that it didn't have a Finnish Ed. So eventually, it would just right up and you are basically wearing like a thong spanks for one leg and nothing, but the SPANK has like a but so it's still keeps you smooth. But then as a finished educates tight, it's it is really you know it's it's super super smart and the other day was at a rooftop yoga class down on sunset boulevard. In the only thing I could see from the roof was a giant skims you know billboard and I was like, wow, that is sexual. Like. I'm so into a body con condom outfit just sitting there like maybe that's my look for twenty twenty, one of them outfits. Love skims and I'm happy for him. Kim Is really nice like she gets such a bad rap I don't know why she's so sweet and lovely, and so she's actually my favorite Kardashian not that you're asking I was upset at this particular park cut out of the segment we did in March because you were saying that like in your eyes she's been so Zozo professional anytime you've ever interacted with her always she's on time she looks amazing she super sweet. She's not afraid to answer hard questions and I think is always like giving and lovely I've been I've never had a bad experience with her I'm truly have never you know had an experience where I was like Oh Kim. Get over yourself like she's Pretty Rad I'm very happy for her. I would love be invited to the Kardashian Christmas Eve Party. This year I'll live in chloe's home. Garage like all put up a little Matt, right beside trues like a parking garage for all her Bentley ride a motor things You know it's like I I want to be part of the clan. Up with the KELTY's Lou spinoff. Kelty Kelty Kim Take Miami Kelty, and Kim. Kelty and Kim Take Phoenix. I wanted to ask you is that I know you had an experience also with Ian with linear television what were your thoughts on keeping up ending more? So from a strategic perspective while considering, we know how much we got paid on e. I just think that maybe they didn't have the budget to continue the show anymore. It was probably not worth third time I. think that Yeah. You just kind of you. You hit a ceiling if you will with with payments I don't think we quite hit our ceiling with them. We were still. Millions away. But the Kardashians for sure that a certain point like they're just too expensive. And you know cress is either there's two options here. She's either getting a massive netflix's do or like Joanna Gaines they're just going to have a Kardashian network. Yeah. I wouldn't be even a little bit surprise I think I mean I, totally agree with you guys I think partially, it had to be financially motivated because you can't compare e-money money and then streaming service money like whether or not. It's a Kardashian network even just Netflix or Hulu any of those. Yeah. No Way I just can't imagine I can't believe that they lasted this long doing the same thing that they've been doing for fifteen years. It's just I feel like they would have grown out of it. They've got a crazy work ethic. Like, fuck this GonNa make Asian. It's true but I I'm really so curious how like skims I think is going be the thing that's going to bring him if she hasn't already reach billionaire status like she's GonNa get there because once you get into the line of retail products, it just changes the game. Well, I think that the show the way that it was done with such a commitment for them like I mean I I can't even imagine what is your guys show, which, of course, was less people less productive fucking work. Yeah she can be making that skims money just sitting on a beach in Bora Bora? I have a side question that I know people would love to hear your opinion. BECA you're are kind of out of the three of you. The The New York Housewives Person I. Hope. So, obviously, the season is done, but I would just love your kind of top level the thoughts when we were trying to figure timing with a lot of people were like you just talk tobacco. I fall super honored. Second of all, I am heartbroken because we had to render. Cast of probably two years ago and when I say she was the most lovely wonderful. Gracious Person. She really was the other two girls don't watch the show and they still were like obsessed with her she wore her lady game Jean Jacket all around even on the show I think this season that we gave her, and so she's just like very she was very women supporting women and. To be honest I think what's going on with her right now is something that we can all sort of understand and relate to when life is going kind of crappy and you're forced to be in front of a camera. Sometimes, it's really really hard to hide the darkness that's happening in your soul and I, actually experienced this with lady gang. TV. I. Was in kind of a shitty place not in my personal life but like my career I was just not super stoked about a lot of stuff and I see certain sides of myself that I really really hate and that looked like this really bitchy cold crazy person that obviously I can be at times but that's not really who I am. At my core I think that that's what durant is going through. I think she said I think she breaking up with John and we actually had a grief expert. Sorry I'm getting sued so deepen this but no, my grief counselor therapist Amira was on our podcast and she was saying that a lot of the times with grief it's so tricky because. They'll be a man that she counsels and he lost his wife of twenty years and she's gone and it's been you know ten years and his dog dies and he says to her I'm having a harder time losing this dog than I did my wife of twenty years. What's wrong with me and it's like well, you're it's because you're experiencing grief from. All of it like it's a cumulative thing. So this has to do with your wife. It's not about just the dog and I think that will I hate that I just made John the dog in this situation however I think that's what it is I think she's still mourning and grieving her husband and then breaking up with John was sort of like opening up those wounds again. So it's almost like we're watching someone who's going through another death of a loved one. So that's what I stand to render I. Don't stand all her behavior and I think that they made maybe the right choice in letting her go and like he'll herself but I want her back when she's ready. Wow, I was beautifully said, thank you know seriously I and I think that that's I. think that's absolutely true. It's it's a combination of. Like I lost my mom two years ago and I'll just find myself sometimes a small thing will happen and I'll just find myself crying and I know that I'm not crying about the small thing I know that I'm crying about you know my mom and my my. Therapist always says that to me she's like. Grief isn't just what you see in movies. Grief is when you're driving in your car and you hear song reminds you of the person or you see a signer. Can Come at you from different ways. So I think that's a really important message. Honestly one that isn't about enough. Yeah it's true. It's true like in this in our society, it's still taboo to talk about these things because people are afraid to go deep Aso are just gravitate towards people that want to go deep because I think there's so much healing that can be done from agree gap grief is certainly not linear that is for sure. No, it's not. did did either of you felt your Jack feel on the show like it was did you have that same experience at all? I think we're all kind of in a very high stress situation with the show, and then also with our other professional things going on at the same time it was it was just like a lot going on at once and I think it definitely did manifest within all of us and a lot of different ways for me I was it was the first time I was ever on TV I was ever doing anything like that like this is so outside of my whole world. So that was a very kind of stressful and difficult thing for me to deal with but. We got through it and it was. You know we didn't take anything personal that any of us were sanger doing to each other. So we got through it. Yeah, Yeah I look back on my behavior during that time in my life and I'm highly embarrassed about most of the way that I acted and most, and all of it was behind the scenes like. I just had you know I I felt like I had a lot of pressure. I also met control freak and you know. We've had a lot of collaborations, but this really was one of the first big collaborations we had were other people were telling us what we could and couldn't do and for me that was like so so triggering for so many ways and I just went into like. Mode and I felt this need to be like a Mama and protect us and be you know just like so on fire and like calm combative I. Guess. And I pretty much like you know, and then we were also writing the book we were doing the podcast the same time. So there's just like a lot going on. And I mean there was a time where Becker, were you shooting a movie and you like back on Tuesday to like them which was back in North Carolina shooting movie and I was at etl l.. Dan. I'd be like interviewing Kim Kardashian in the morning and then coming at eight am to like do the like it was a mess he was a best and snow in also I wish we. Would have just been able to be allowed to sit down and be like, Hey, this is a dumpster fire like here's why I think we would have been people would have related so much more but they really wanted like very happy very high energy content. We weren't allowed to get this ads and I think that was what was missing from the show is that it wasn't even about anything wasn't even. It was like we have built a career about the three of us just sitting down and talking whatever that is if it is serious shed if it is, you know random tangents and for the first time after like four years of doing it the way that we do it in a very honest and genuine way we had thirty people sitting behind a computer screen or whatever screen telling us like what is funny and what is not funny and judging the things that were coming out of her mouth. So I think it was just a huge. Like change for us to try to deal with that because we're not you know. That's just not how we operate normally. So it was just like a huge shift and. I for one didn't feel comfortable. I, think we all felt a little bit like it wasn't. But I will say just quickly they golden lining is that we fell in love with. Jimmy. Clean from the back of my guys it cannot be your golden lining by the way. I was always a Brian and then Aj, came on the show I was like Oh my God I'm Jack and I went into like a six month obsession with Aj were we just watch youtube clips of him hip thrusting and like texting back and forth we went to Vegas we saw the residency and then we've been so excited watchmen dancing with the stars and I just WanNa personally say I don't think he's hit yet on dancing with the stars it's the was it was hard for me after six months of hip thrusting. I, think Jay can get better on dancing with the stars I'm very excited for. The next episode I know this is an audio thing but Kelsey you'd be very excited to know that I am wearing my shirt wear shirt right now. Great with only four of them because when Kevin Left, she got like a limited edition. Yeah. No Kevin but you know that's fine. But who cares you? Know it's interesting to hear you guys talk about that just because I do know that the be of podcasting is like the intimacy and the authenticity that you can bring to it. So it's kind of interesting to hear you talk about how like your experience manifests itself in different forms like both TV but also these other operations and there's more of an outside influence I've always been so interested in that element of it like of your business typically well, and I would say that leg now moving forward, we sort of know that we make it very clear to anybody who were collaborating with is like what you see what you get this is our brand. and. So for you for anybody that's like spent years and years cultivating this community like those people they you know now what they want from you and so these like big industries come in and these big reasons while they have incredible resources. Like, just they can make you know they made our dreams come true. But at the end of the day, they didn't know our group of women and so and they didn't know what the spas we didn't know us and they didn't know what magic of the lady gang why it had been so successful and the reason for it being so successful is that it was our brand that we created. So I think that like for you guys in anybody, it's just if you've worked your ass off for years in creating something that people are appreciating don't change that like don't do the square peg in the round hole. Well, and it's one of those things to that I mean especially for the TV show was such a shiny exciting thing for us and for the biggest learning experience we had was just to stay true to our brand moving forward for anything else because we did lose a little bit of that and there, and it's just not worth to heating and opportunity when you have to give up part of yourself for it. So and also disclaimer like this is at no fault of the network. This is a no fault of producers. This is you know we didn't know that we could speak up the way that we have since so. This is no fault of anybody's. Yeah, I think that's really great advice anyone listening and it actually brings me to kind of my final question, which is like what's next for you guys? You know what are you want even even if it's not necessarily in the works what do you envision kind of the next phase of Lady Ganger, your next endeavor? Kelsey. What's on the Vision Board? I've been envisioning getting reposted by comments by. Counter, my personal one. I think. I know sorry. I would love to write another book Beco- will murder us. So I don't know how but we have a lot of stuff. We've really cool partnership with a charity component coming this holiday season and then maybe some more outfits. We don't know lots of things cooking. We're cooking right now. We are. Thank you guys with providing here for talking us. I think I know we have a lot of crossover with our listeners and so I will be really excited to hear this I just always like I just appreciate how open you are. I appreciate it from the second walk into the studio. It was just it was really nice to have people that just wanted to be who they are and like not second. Guess what they were saying it's very, very rare in this industry, and so I appreciate you all and I thank you for coming on. Off. As and everything you do. So we we look. I.

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136: This Is A Case For The FBI: Thursday, August 6th, 2020

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136: This Is A Case For The FBI: Thursday, August 6th, 2020

"Good morning millennials, happy Thursday. We are so close to the weekend ever having a club to Viki Shen. So close to Alexei Shannon so close to sleep in in. So close to never. Again alarm. So close to not doing a full. Ch- so close to doing weekly episodes. So close to doing weekly plus Patriot a reminder subscribe to our Patriot Dot com slash morning toast seven dollars and ninety nine cents. We'll get you a full premium subscription, which is five extra episodes or mice a month podcast episodes of log episode, and then also access to our premium facebook remembers only the does after dark speaking premium content though today's episode of the redheads when up I. Heard. It was really a real thought provoking episode was a real thought provoking episode. It was a very thought provoking books. So those vibes just use out onto us and I hope that you're if you're a headed, make some time to listen to it today or this weekend you know it's never too late to become a redhead and think he's while the redheads who are out there. Currently there's also tons of new TNN content Margaret. Patti stanger on the PODCAST. The robak Lorne Elizabeth had the skinny confidential on the PODCASTS. So all the tenants shows are just churning out premium content. There's girls night with Raven, Alexis and just head over to add to US network instagram for all the updates you need. Yes. Every single update that you might need. Well I can't believe it's Thursday. This week is moving along quite nice. It really zoomed right by which I genuinely appreciated. Yeah I appreciate as well. We have so much to talk about today because Rehouse Beverly Hills was just really thought provoking chefs, Italian ships, kiss plus so much happened yesterday like really weird shit in the news and I'm like super. Like excited to get into it because like between Jake Paul and there's all this news drama. It's going to be a good show and. wits to serve that. Yeah you deserve house. Deserve that Theo being the best boy the best boy I woke up super late because I was like having a dream at nine in the morning that my father-in-law and we're on a singer we're going to gel together and it's like if that doesn't come up who I am. Then I don't know what does family and housewives like those are the things that are important I've been entertaining green. Yeah. Well, it's because I was up all night watching housewives and then I got in bed within like that's literally my life. Yeah. No. I. Understand. Did you watch what? I did and I really enjoyed it. I. Have a lot of thought I? Were you just absolutely dying cackling when they were addressing how the last time Jerry O'CONNELL on what trump inside his wife I fucking stunk. So we went over to his neighbor's house and he was like I would like to thank the Shapiro's of Calabasas for letting me use their Wifi. He's still had spotty service in comparison to Meghan McCain and SE Cup but it was it was better yet but they also do shows. Yes. It was like in a studio in their house, right? She's on CNN Manzana ABC like they they have it together. Yeah it worked out fine. Jerry is just so nice and we spoke yesterday about I. Don't we didn't understand like how and why he was defending Ellen but android totally get it. He doesn't WanNa see anyone that he knows or likes or even doesn't like be ganged up on and go down right and that's what's so weird to me that he's like ended up in the real housewives universe because when he was giving takes in those games like agree or disagree I was literally disagreeing with everything he said and I realize it's because he is like super night skies constantly choosing kindness. Yeah he's he literally should feel. He had to he is like the epitome of kindness and I wasn't agreeing with any of his hotcakes and just makes me think how funny it is how he like ended up commentating on house, which is like notoriously catty and like you always take sides and he literally does not take sides. No but he still has an answer for everything. Yeah. Even though it wasn't agreeing with like his answers no me neither really eat with Megan and se. So I I was glad that they were there to balance it out I actually when it comes out so I agree with every single thing Meghan McCain to say and I appreciate. Her takes, but I do not agree with a lot of what I say. Okay. I agreed with pretty much every single thing Meghan, McCain had to say, there was one thing I didn't agree with and I can't remember what she she very controversial. He said that she thinks the greatest of all time. Erica Jane know what so I thought about my actually pause the TV to think about what my answer would be for that question their answers and i. a Erica Jim wouldn't have been my answer. But for every reason, Megan said she is among the Goshi redefined she really brought real housewives of Beverly Hills into the Twentieth Century Bringing right now would not be possible without Erica and not only did. They go from having Glam on trips. But like now, everyone has personal personal hair personal make. Every look is a look. It's sickening. I can't wait to get into the looks but I agreed with Meghan for that reason, my goat would be Bethany. Me Too I was really surprised nobody sent out. She is just the perfect. Her personality is so perfect for house is when she's in a fight, she holds her own when she's doing testimonials. They're so funny like she's rich like there. I I was shocked nobody said Bethany because that was my answer to yeah and she has time after time she's existed. In seasons that we're like a star studded and she has been the star, she's also put franchises on her back at time. Yeah. So it was a very interesting episode where it was just like real has is cannon which I love Yeah Cannon. I think you meant like make cannon, which by the way I wanted to talk about in a Canon because. Feel. Like we spoke about him a lot and then we like. He like walkout wash out of the news cycle. But I've been keeping up with him on instagram and he like fast for tissue above which I I didn't even do he like he read Bury Weiss's book how to fight anti-semitism. Like. That's how you do it, and that's if you allow someone like the space to grow within cancel culture like you get in a cabin and I just think it's like an interesting case study that we should all be watching. People stopped talking about him, but he hasn't stopped educating yourself and learning, and I'm like I wanted to be mad at him but like I literally can't. Yeah. No, that's great and I just I. wanted to put it out there because when you talk about the bad, you have to talk about the good I completely agree sweet fabulous show. I, think we should dive in while also, I just wanted to give a shadow toward Lebanese toasters. Hope everyone is okay. The footage that is coming out from this. Bomb. Explosion is so crazy and so sad I saw a video. Of this beautiful bride taking her wedding pictures outside like a few blocks away from the explosion and. The video lager from the wedding got on camera like when the whole street shook and they all went running. It was just like. It just puts into perspective like people were just letting their everyday lives. It was really really sad. So all of our Lebanese toasters. View I. Hope you're okay. It's really really scary. Yeah. That is really scary but without a digress yes, it is time for the past five stories that you need to know for you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. and. That's true. 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Who is like a house encyclopedia like ourselves he really also believes in the power of the victim and her being the top housewife and. I don't discredit him as a housewife story, but it does make me look at him differently. Yeah. I think based on the facts like Cher. She's the she's the first in the long end but not anymore, Ramona's the first and longest. Yeah. Not Anymore. Okay. First story firearms were seized in an FBI rate at Youtube Star Jake Paul's home federal agents recovered a cash cash. A firearms from controversial Youtube Star Jake Shays at prompt store dress a prom dress store. CACHET. Okay. So they went to the prom dress store. In his La Mansion following a raid there on Wednesday or quarter to report authorities were seen seizing several firearms including a long gun propped up against a hot tub in the back yard from twenty-three-year-old Paul's property in Calabasas early Wednesday new station KABC. TV reported authorities were also spotted leaving the home in an armored Swat truck and dark van as well as a truck with several agents wearing military fatigues riding in the back. The La Times report him the FBI confirmed it had obtained search warrants for the property though the nature of the investigation is unclear ABC reported no arrests were planned I mean. This is maybe the craziest story I've ever heard first of all, just when I heard that the FBI were rating Jake Paul's House for the FBI that's different than just like the local police the FBI that means like there has been tracking him. It's like when you see a documentary trying to get out like like in millions or trying to get all the pieces together they finally get the warrant and now it's time for like a lot of work went in he has been on their radar. Yes, we're months. Yes. So when I heard it was the F.. B. I was shocked then when I saw pictures of the neighborhood. From just like regular people standing outside their houses, taking pictures of the types of trucks and the types of things that people were wearing, they call it a small militia like they're literally wearing like a tank. So it's like what the fuck is going on. Jake Paul House. Then, the more I thought about it. Because I kept seeing helicopter footage of his house. He lives like a king and it started not to add up because if I never really thought about it but. Jake Paul lives in my mind at the same level of wealth as like Jeffrey Star. But we are very aware of like what makes Jeffrey Star money like his Youtube Channel, his cosmetics company he invests. In investor in a big pot business, he owns real estate around the world. So it's like when you think about it, it's like how does this? How does this youtuber have so much money he explains it to us like Jeffrey Stars Wealth makes to me in a lot of ways but then the more I thought about it jake pulls wealth it makes no sense to me like, yes six successful youtube channel and he has merch. Doesn't get you a mansion in Calabasas like not even close. So we have other endeavors as well that not that I'm aware that you're a scan of Jeffrey. So you know all his like you watch the documentary. If Jake. Paul sat down and told you everything and he's investing wouldn't watch video he did have a documentary with Shane Dawson you watch it yes and it wasn't really About, business it was about like how he became the most hated man in America and it kind of softened him up. But now it's just got me thinking a lot about his finances is what I'm trying to say because like the House did not fit the job description share saying something right and according to the blinds which the blinds can be off but this is an anti blind. They say he's like the biggest drug dealer in La and he's also connected to like allegedly allegedly allegedly connected to porn. That actually does make sense fiscally and also why the FBI involved and why he might have fucking rifles in his backyard like just guns like they were literally. Muskets like they were huge. American Revolution Type Shit like. What twenty-three-year-old Youtuber needs that? Yeah I don't know but a twenty, three year old alleged dealer might need them. That's all I'm saying okay. Yeah. That was my thought process. Okay. If you take the blinds out of it so far this story doesn't give us damage information aside from the firearms that were confiscated perhaps like there was an illegal right but I, don't think the FBI shows up at someone's house who buys guns illegally I think that's a local sheriff's Department meeting in Waco they do interested in Waco they do. I mean not that it was only but I did only see three gotten sick I'm thinking FBI like travels with their tank to seal ivory. God's completely agree there's something more to this story obviously I think we'll find out soon but we don't know right now I'm I think Mrs a much bigger story. Yeah. That will develop over time and eventually we'll get to talk about it just day one I story I could see like where this ends and Pollen jail really yeah. The SBA doesn't just come to your house for nothing like it's such a big deal it's not like the even if the police invaded your home sorry invaded is not the right word raided your home. That's a huge deal. But doesn't mean you go to jail the FBI that means they got you already is a case for the FBI and Kris Jenner thankfully lives nearby. Yeah. It's just crazy. Yeah it's very, very easy. We we'll keep you posted, but that is the extent of the story right now. It's also interesting. He's. He's just been in it and It really. Gets my mind moving because the Paul Brothers are so interesting whereas they bust on the scene as fucking animals like literally like they were like prankster and like just like I hate that Shit and then obviously all came to a head with the Logan Paul video that just kind of took the world by storm really the. The first early cancellations. Yeah. Our in our yes. But he recovered nicely and I feel like he's actually. I thought like grown-up lot and they don't even associate him with Jake anymore like he's really like an adult and he's I still think he's cute. But now what does the Association are they friends? I. Needed an update. Are they in persist together like where where did we land with the Paul? Brothers relationship and Jake was the one that got married right to Tanta Mojo and We need hear from her Logan's the one with a podcast impulsive yet it's very popular. Yes. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. It seems like they're on different tracks yet no podcast I wanna be with the podcast. So I actually feel like, Logan's hands. Maybe this is just me being I might be clean and all this because I just really like believe in his growth over the last few years. Any stories, right? No, but it's just it's crazy. It's crazy. We'll keep you posted I. I need more information I'm so curious. It's so hard not to speculate I. Know You know and just like make things up rumors that you've heard. I'm making I heard from Antioch. I'm not saying that's what you just think. We could sit here and be like maybe it's maybe it's right but. We just gotTa wait and yeah latency. Do you think it has anything to do with? He's been like throwing huge razors at his house during co and people apparently got Kobe at the Party and he says he's not going to stop throwing parties with the FBI invade your home for that I do not think so me neither the mayor of L. A. or the governor or something said that he would start cutting off power and water to houses that were throwing parties, which is seventy. So I think that's their level of intrusion governors jurisdictions, not the FBI that is not a case for the FBI. That's a little crazy, but we're living in crazy time. So we are living in crazy times, but I do think that that is not the. Yeah that's not the reason will report that next month yet literally. Story and other crazy story like on the back of a story we reported on in January and now news pop of the morning and in the room are canceled amid a greater NBC universal restructure can I tell you what? My time hop today I literally had a screen shot of the news story because I posted on instagram. It's literally one year to the day they a year ago. Today they announced that was moving to New York New York with a slate of morning show program of the morning those shows premiered in January. That's crazy. We this year. Yeah. They were on until March I. Don't think they ever did a virtual addition of news or pop of the morning, and now they're gone to me this is I mean you have this conversation I think like once a year about how news is the weirdest network because in a lot of we? Ease the. Network. News is a a program, an institution I think a lot of people saw the story they're like the network is getting canceled. What about Kardashian? Yeah about all of these shows. This new seven and eleven pm, which is what we grew up with dot show was canceled. They had moved into the morning but now it's canceled. Pablo the morning is canceled that was Liliana, Scott Scott and. News canceled and in the room, which is the Jason Kennedy we're going in your bedroom celebrities show. Yeah I, I. think that's the right decision put. Sorry I misspoke. But what I meant to say is like this conversation all the time where it's like in a lot of ways e as a network is like the coolest network like they have crashes, they do all the red carpet. Daily pop has really become like a cornerstone of a lot of people's mornings and Morgan Stewart and just like it's so cool in a lot of ways. But in so many ways it's like the. Network they can never get their programming, right they're constantly launching shows. And just when you think they've got it right lady gang they don't get a second season like they they. Can never get it right when they should be there like the pop culture network like they should be getting it right all the time and not only are they not getting it right all the time they're getting it wrong almost every time. Yeah and what is even more that confounds this situation is that the news instagram has fifteen million followers. It is the go to place for breaking pop culture news. Every outlet wants to be like news and they can't like. That instagram collateral into ratings on the program that the account is named after they're going GONNA have to change the name about account because online I think. Yeah. That's what I think. They're twitter E. entertainment like just it's the networks account. Yeah. If you put an exclamation point in. In and they would just be e exclamation point. Yeah. It is really strange why they're not able to make it work. Also has been on the air for thirty years At seven, a as an evening show they did as morning show for two months and they're just cancelled the whole thing like why not just try going back to the way that it was but also. Because of. Corona virus, they're not doing virtual shows I think that. They already had a lot of back-to-back content that was repetitive in the mornings newseum pop in the morning, and you had daily pop and it's all. Ten stories right. So it's hard enough to do that when you're in Studio and splashing glamorous yes. When people are filming from home. So now that it's been five months and those shows aren't on the air. Yes, it's time to cancel, but it's just crazy that a thirty year institution was taken down by Corona Virus Yeah even though I think it was struggling before moving to new. York and in the morning was a terrible decision. I think it was really perfect and of course, like when Ryan and Juliana left like it left a weird but like like it was fine when Catt Sadler. Savage didn't WanNa, pay her like it's just did they ruined it on purpose? Yes. It was good with chasing Kennedy and Catt Sadler still part of the original institution. Yeah. They had a lot of good hosts coming in and out on your rod would have been perfect for the job yet Taryn Shay hosted for a while she was fabulous Chrissa Usta like Ho- segments she's on daily. Pop. Much great talent there Aaron leary Zuri Morgan Nina yes. In like so much great talent and I mean it just goes to show you that if Morgan Stewart is not attached to your project, it will not succeed or Justin or not the only remaining pro our daily popping nightly pop, which she's here it's just Like real sorry network really baffles me in so many ways it's just. It's like the network of our generation and a lot of ways, but it's also like so fucking lame and I literally if I had to put a list together of all the shows that they've launched and cancelled in the last three years I think it would be like twenty shows. Yeah and now I'm seeing I guess they are using some like footage that they have in their file cabinet because they're making these shows that are like celebrity night like facts about celebrities that you didn't know what are they doing i? Don't know they brought back each Hollywood story, but then but then never brought it back again and That was a good idea back the soup a, but she is coming back 'cause we said that should be easy show to film virtually literally in front of the green screens what it's one man show it's a one man show. So I think that's coming back, which will be good but Y- I agree they like go all in on things don't give it enough time to succeed busy Phillips Lady Gang that moment gave everyone wants to yeah. No, it's like I really think she was maybe the downfall of the network like you're right they come up with these grandiose is all the money and then they don't give. You have to give something. So fresh at least two seasons especially, if it's something that needs time to like root with viewers and for the party game was a podcast turned into a TV show like that is revolutionary things take time they don't happen overnight and I love that show. I thought it was so well done I I was just like Oh. This is this is just one of those things that make sense it's it's perfection it's timeless. Yeah. But I never would they don't even give it a chance to grow. So in a lot of weight so I do think they should have canceled papa the morning did you ever watch it was horrible like really really terrible. but at the same time, it's like have some courage of your convictions like you're making these big ideas like stick with it. Yeah. and honestly like not to say that it's necessarily about us, but there's just so much entertainment for free like so many podcasts that get more viewership than a TV show like it's crazy and when it comes to pop culture when it comes to housewives, there's just so much to choose from in terms of podcasts. Web shows. Youtube show like really and it's free. Yeah. Who needs to buy cable to to find some host who may be good at her job but nobody knows like it's just they're not. Keeping up at the time two different world I agree. But I, do think that they have things going for them podcast or free shows or the morning hosts doesn't have going for them. They have the money they don't mean into it. They have the money, they have the access to celebrity they're part of NBC Universal. They literally can get anyone single guests on their show. They do these I mean on daily Poplars in-studio the do these segments at the end that were like, no like dumb like morning. Fitness but like they were so funny I mean you just have to invest in your talent and that's what upset me about the Catt Sadler thinking it'd be aside from the whole gender pay gap thing like wouldn't you want to keep her happy like she's good at her job? What's the problem and they'd be like now maybe they do that I think they invest a lot in Justin and charisma and Morgan, and they should have been doing that from the very beginning but I'm just the stories upsetting because of all the girls who wanted to grow up and be catt Sadler and Joanna radically. What's your dream job now? Morgan Stewart? Oh true. True. Yes. But it's true like everyone's job. Everyone's dream job growing up was to be on email. And the dream is dead I literally remember his dad sitting in my intro to communications class and it's like, what do you want to be an literally every single girl was like I wanna be next Juliana. Ransack. Yeah, and honestly I felt that I felt that too and then I realized that everybody else felt that too and I was like, oh I'm not competitive enough for this industry, but the thing is like really anyone yet. Anyone could be Juliana ransack like she necessarily read from a teleprompter not anyone can be Morgan Stewart like Hey Morgan Stewart has charisma his passion. She has uniqueness. She has nerve. She has talent okay I. I hear what you're saying and I do think there's a difference between the two of them but I think all of this goes to show that actually not anyone can mutually. And people think anyone can do this job but she did the job for so long and the show was so successful and maybe you and I don't see what is special about her but she's she had the chops. This is just you know I'd love to hear what Kelty night things about this. You know she's in the space she works on entertainment tonight and I just think it's so crazy and I think it's a really big mistake to cancel e news I just think like them moving it was weird but it's it's a cornerstone of their network and it's fabulous I know so many people like growing up on me and my friends with like dinner after school would just get home and turn on news like and I'd like that it was at seven o'clock and I think they just. Try. To be everything they tried to be a morning show. They tried to be this. They just tried to be too much at once when they had was good. Yeah I think that I mean obviously they've made their decision but I think it was way too hasty I think that they should have tried to bring back news in the evenings with and virtually now. So let's make do with what we have with some compelling digital host who could make a great show there. So many great digital creators who may content for their youtube channels using just you know final cut right? So. I just don't think that they tried hard enough no and it's like For as long as we've been reporting on pop culture like news has been restructuring like when when are they going to land on something? Yeah. It's G has been restructured. Sorry. I'm so sorry in network has been restructuring and it's like. Why do we still regard them as like a cool network like literally cancellations. And red carpet stuff like they. Just they now. Yeah and they have they have good chance g like Total Velez. Yes. For every total Bellas, there's like thirty failed reality shows living low him yet I mean that's like iconic. But yes, there are thirty failed reality shows. They have one coming up with Terry Bradshaw and his daughters. You see now Terry Bradshaw is like a football player legendary according to bed and he lives on a farm with his cue wife and their three blonde daughters and one of them wants to job. Now, like it actually looks like a fabulous show, they have literally been promoting it for six months with the same two clips one coming out coming soon. We'll sounds really good. Yeah. No, it does sound good. So I'm sure it'll be cancelled in Yup. anyways that's the latest TV news next up. Cameron. Diaz is speaking out saying she felt piece walking away from her movie career to take care of herself could never give up so. Cameron Diaz who never really opens up for us to us. But when she does, we have to dissect every. She's not technically famous anymore native retired. She's not work. Yeah. She's retired. She's not working. She spoke to her good friend Gwyneth paltrow Wednesday for the latest episode of in Goop health the sessions in which the two discussed redirecting the course of their lives away from the glare of Hollywood. So paltrow asked, what did it feel like to walk away from a movie career of that magnitude? Cameron. Mild and responded like peace a piece in my soul because I was finally taken care of myself. It's a strange thing to say I know a lot of people won't understand it. I know you understand it but it was so intense to work at that level and be that public and put yourself out there. There's a lot of energy coming on you at all times when you're really visible as an actor and doing press and putting yourself out there she described herself as being quote sensitive to some energies that would overwhelm her from time to time when she was more active in the. Industry. She said I've stopped and really look at my life. When you're making a movie, they own you. You're there for twelve hours a day for months on end you have no time for anything else I realized I handed off parts of my life to all these other people I had to basically take back and take responsibility for my own life. I thought I love that we're hearing from her because it is very When you think about it like she did kind of disappear but it was intentional like she didn't just fade into irrelevancy like she made the conscious choice to walk away from arguably one of the biggest movie careers of all time and it was intentional and you never really heard from her on why she made that decision and hearing her speak about it makes the most sense. Yeah I it makes the most sense. Here and talk about it with Gwyneth like just. So beautiful because a lot of ways one has also taken a step back redirected her attentions from movies and being famous celebrity to being business owner, which is a printing were fabulous. Yeah. She said the only way to get her into product that you're working on is for her to be sleeping with the director because she only really does stuff now that her husband. which is so huge and I feel like once you get to that place in your life where you just like make decisions for yourself or share, but it's also nice like when your husband is doing premium content. Oh, hosts like it he was just sad art project movies and hopefully to be and it just so happens like everything he produces like emmy award winning fantastic nece right but does doesn't hurt de la Creme. If was putting together like student that means cream of the cream that it was putting together like student films like I. I don't know if she would be as supportive, right? Exactly. But anyways, this was just a nice conversation and I think it's a good Lesson I. Are we talking about somebody's like how do they do it like how do how can you deal with like the weight of the world shoulders and the pressure and some people don't have like this shrink to walk away from it and You know who did walk away from it though Chintzy Mortimer. Taken away in handcuffs. She didn't necessarily know she chose a life of love instead of our. Yeah I don't know it's I guess. It's much scale. As but it's the most recent example I can think of. That's the same thing that like. Shifted her attentions. It takes a lot to turn down like you know the thing and the money and doing those fashion shows yet. But like it's not that hard to walk away from it when like go into like a rich man, it's like you're giving it all up. You know you just get up he's going to help sustain her lifestyle. You're not more so than the fame could you're you're not getting all the money, but you're giving up the the fame and I think. Fame is funny thing because it's addicting and you can't buy it. Nope and so when you have it, it's like. How do you give it up? Do you how do you if you can't get back? Yes. That's a strong person. She's given it up and I think taken aback more times in her life she was had that Palm Beach where she was kind of a relevant. If she wanted it, you could get it back. She has just some people's names had never forget I agree. But I, think after this, she's all out of chances. You never know some people are just blessed like where does it I guess after his where do you go after houses of New York one turn Scott get married like they could be marriage boot camp. Gone. Yeah. Where do you go after real housewives? I don't WanNa know Yary sub podcast oh. Yes. That's true. But back to Kennedy as I just love her and I want really truly good things for her and if she's happy than I'm happy even though she did retire but then she came back wants to do the other woman and then she went back to retirement and she's the woman of tastes and I'm glad that she did she did that for us like thank you. That movie is so good. That's another content upper bid one big one. Okay. Next story some instagram trauma between Megan Kelly I'm Brian Austin Green because Megan Kelly was just being like a girlfriend posting her man's and saying so I need to get a quote. Quote for. The caption I she did. Are you sure she did with machine she said achingly beautiful boy. My heart is yours then which is like so Megan Kelly you know Joe, Megan Kelly. Brian Austin Green posted a carousel of all of his. Children and said. Achingly Beautiful Boys, my heart is yours. That's like so fucking luxury and a little weird because like the love you have for a partner is not the same love you have for your kids. So it's just like a little gross. But what are you doing like stop shop trying to stop Meghan Kelly like and they're happy that's because they cannot be stopped. He cannot be stopped already looked like a big loser and now he looks like an even bigger loser. He is such a nerd like trying to get her attention like this is like I'm losing all respect and it's like the public has chosen Megan, Kelly? Of course how can you not look at that? You've been officially left in the dust just like embrace it the harder you fight like the further you fall. Yeah. I feel as though you should be channeling his efforts into meeting someone else. Acknowledging that it's over usually older handsome. That he thinks she's coming home soon dave did have this like tumultuous relationship where they were together not they were divorced but they were still together. They like always found their way back to each other and that can be a toxic mindset to be in for so long and you you forget that that. Eventually it will end. I think it really for Meghan has ended but for him, it's just like another bump in the road he doesn't understand the power of Megan Kelly. Once you go to Megan, you never go back ever. You never go back because once you really embrace and feel the power of machine gun Kelly like how can you go back to Brian by the way? I? Just thought of something. Megan Fox love man with three names. Machine Gun Kelly. Brian Greene yeah she does she's consistent I just love Megan Fox like I know that she's like just in love she's like probably having so much sex and like she's just so happy after being with what appears to be a real misery for awhile totally get across out with all I can't like I'm just I'm living for her in this moment and i. Hope she's embracing it and not letting this petty instagram get her to trying to like grasp ause like drag her down with him. It's not going to happen. No Gun Kelly cannot be too strong right now too strong. The flame is so hot so hot it'll. It'll dwindle maybe become a little kindling as things do things do but right now it's peak flame. Yes. Sorry Brian. Okay fit them vinyl story a little exciting news Kylie Jenner reportedly has a cameo in the new. Cardi B. and Meghan, this stallion video I heard about this highly Jenner reportedly makes a cameo appearance in a new video from Cardi B. and Magnus stallion for their song wop debut in on Friday. Tomorrow sources till TMC that the video was shot the week before Megan was hanging with Kylie Jenner and rap rapper Tory Lanez after which Megan was shot in the only. God. Yes surgery. That was a crazy story that was crazy. There's actually reading so much about Meghan. The stallion recently did you know that she She got herself back in college and like literally before last year's award shows she was like doing a final during her hair makeup and went and. Performs at the grammys whatever is so cool. I knew I just like the more I learn about her the more I, really respect her and by the way so crazy about she got shot. By who by Tori? But they were just hanging out with Kylie. The world together. I don't know if Kylie was there for that part But six reported that Tory Lanez was the person who allegedly shot Meghan and police arrested him on gun possession charges doesn't seem to appear in court in October and she's like she's recovering from a gun wound. She's still releasing bangers you really can do it all. She can be a great music video. That's exciting highly is like lifestyle was made for music video I'm so glad Meghan. This Talian respects that that? Yeah, and Cardi B.'s there too. Oh, right right. Right. That'd be awesome eighty. Fabulous. Hopefully the music video jobs to. Tonight yeah midnight. Midnight and that's when the redheads episode dropped. Well, you are someone topic stop doing that actually because then I'm like, Oh, the episode just dropped it's midnight they want to hear it ever on things. So literally, like can't go to sleep until an hour and a half as race and it's just like I should wait till nine am I agree. Okay let's dive into real housewives of beverly. Hills. Eric Recap segment fabulous episode were still in Rome The lady split up. To do equally fundings I was trying to think which would I have went on everything was so lit? Yeah I think I think I would have done I know I would have gone shopping. Let's be real. But I like to think I would've gone in the Ferraris especially if I didn't have to drive myself also, if you think of like which group, you would rather hang out with I think I I love to read and that's who I would miss any other group but I think it would have rather been with like oursel-. Erica. Yeah, you know what? The only person I wouldn't have wanted to be around is kyle. By the she's really bothering was not on the scene. She's really bothering me she's. The way that I feel about whole situation has really shifted where at first I was so obsessed I'm like his brand new telling the truth she she she and it's very clear given how poorly denise's reacting and how she's tangled in a web of lies. It's very clear that everything brand new said is true but it doesn't even matter like I'm. I feel. So sad for Virginia, she's obviously like mortified because in a lot of ways she's been outed and she doesn't know how to handle this and she keeps making weird lies brandy also said she slept with one of you like that was just not true but she's so deeply uncomfortable. You don't know about that. No I think everything didn't he said was lying because she said she didn't talk to brandy and then she said she did like she's just in a mess of her own making and none of this really should have ever come out and they get that Teddy was upset because she allegedly heard Denise said something about her dad like I get that but to air something. So private. To get justice for this little piece of gossip is so not evenly matched up in anyway and I'm really disappointed in everyone I'm disappointed in everyone like there's so much to unpack here. First of all and Jerry O'CONNELL said this last night everybody was upset with the way that Kyle and Rena, and Teddy came with information to denise and on the one hand it's like, yeah, as human beings, someone should given her a heads up the Sydney to go down in front of the whole group I personally think it didn't need to go down at all red and she had gotten a text message like an hour before from Lisa. This is coming up straight I. Think this was a line that did not need to be crossed, but it was cross Jerry O'CONNELL said, this is house wise. This is what happens. This is what we do but I think with these women you can make that argument for other franchises but with these women they care so much about like they're they don't cross the line with each other but also they care about how they look on TV do very well respected with yes and what they did and how they handled it makes them look terrible terrible in a lot of ways they're so unaware of like the larger conversation around what is being said, which is like. Outing someone without their permission like they don't even see it as they're just so caught up in their own like petty bullshit and like wanting to make the show good that it's really turned me off to a lot of housewives previously liked what really bothered me was when after everything went down and by the way I, saw funny tweet those which room would you have gone to Garcia? Denise ourselves injury like those are my people. I feel like in terms of who I don't hold responsible let's do hold responsible honestly is Kyle Teddy and Lisa agreed to era garnered was someone was saying like this was not cool what they did what Teddy and rented and like they didn't mention Kyle as like blame has been foisted but that's Kyle's like emo and that's why she stuck around for so long she's so involved but also leads no evidence like she's there's no trace. Problem but not there's no paperwork, right so the next day was like I had so much anxiety last night I, feel terrible when she orchestrated this whole thing. Yeah, and so I think she probably did have anxiety did feel terrible because I think she's not a bad person. She realizes the situation that they're all in now but she had two days to figure out how to handle this information and she thought of all the way she could do it and then shows the worst one. Yeah. This episode just made me have so much more respect for jury for a million different reasons like aside from the looks which we have to get into. Her being it's always easier to go with the with the majority like everyone's. It's like five people in one room three people in another like which is gonNa go to like and I really respect someone takes the the road less traveled and she's Unequivocal in her support and her friendship to denise and I respect so much. Yeah. I respect a good friend and she's being a very good friend and I think sometimes it is about like true or not true. But situation really isn't about that. It's about. Was this worth being repeated? This, ethical and all. Now you were bringing in. So there's the rumor, but then there's also the fact that denise told a friend some talk some shit about her co workers to a friend that's not on the show, and now that's fair game and when it's not, I don't care what everyone tells their friends in private about the women like it. How what you do on the show is what you're held accountable agreed it's irrelevant. It's irrelevant. So that was really annoying. What was also annoying and so strange was sentenced Strack I'm crying in the doce `Gabon store that she didn't want to try on. Clothes. So don't take everyone shopping until be show Offi like you. That was so strange, I totally get it. I fucking. Hate trying on clothes especially in front of people and especially in front of cameras like I totally get it but don't make shopping like your thing and then just stop shopping I dunno, I found her to be really relatable. Obviously that was kind of weird I. Don't think we got enough context agree when she was sitting at the table talking about how she put on everyone's like, no, you're beautiful and she was like, do you like when you're closer type? Anybody. Likes that feeling and I just I had a real soft spot for her in that moment i. think she has these fabulous connections. She's a major shopper, the fact that they're gonNa Messenger close to her hotel for her to try on just says everything and so I think they had this sensational opportunity will film the girls love to shop and then she realized she needs to come out and tore twirl. And that's how she's. I think she's really shy shy and a little insecure and so awkward which we saw with the seats at Kyle's party. We and I. Just I understand it. You know what I think a lot about her was that she ended up telling denise that she had heard that rumor about brandy privately she talked about off camera. Yeah which is like what you that's what should have done. Yes. I really really like Sutton and it's funny. They flashed back to a conversation from the friends card with the Crown Dominates House and at the time it was so cringe but now knowing her it's still a little cringe and issue was definitely hyped up. But I like her so much now it took me so long but the it's cringing, no matter what. But she has grown on me a lot and I also understand her more now like she's actually really shy and. She's not show off the at all. Yeah. Even though like she confuses me in so many ways like her at a table full of people being like Carcelle it really upset me when you ask me how I got my money which by the way I think it was weird when cells that. But like someone who's shy doesn't do that and you don't WanNa talk about higher got your money. You don't mention it again in front of Eight people and you don't just like if you really are so shy about your money like she's obviously not. Shy about her money those boots were heinous. It was cute sweet gifted heinous weekend and no woman. None of those women are wearing fucking hunter rain boots if it's raining Denise Michelle wear them but she's Okay we need to talk about the looks. Okay. Well, here's the thing I. I'm very. Staunch in my belief that like Erica Jane is the Queen of looks and like none of this would be possible Erica Jane she is the Queen and I think last week she won with the looks like she'd totally outdid everyone it saddens me to say that like I I think I needed to say that before I say that was the queen of looks because it's so Erica saying she made it possible for everyone and Glam. So her and I love that she takes risks and like the women are always like some of the women are always making comments about her looks, which is so lose everything to do leave thought that we were past that and then someone made a comment about her as she looked like she was going plastic surgery I eight bucks. And I can feel how much it bothers her it bothers me too because it's it's it's an art. It's a form of expression like even though I might not agree with every single put together. I have respect for people who take risks and we're the same thing every day. But like I respect while I don't always love it, I have no choice project I agree making fun of someone's outfit like I'll never forget how much fun. How much they made fun of her Berlin for her total latex look and her wig and it was like she was still ahead of her time like she was so added her time. So before saying that I think to read absolutely nailed this week's look in every. Obviously the big reveal at the end was sensational but I think her lunch look with Kyle was literally like my husband just died the in inheriting his billion. Dollar Fortune her highlight, her sunglasses were hairpiece gagging I. I actually my jaw hit the floor at times and I realize like she is my personal style icon like if I could have anyone's wardrobe, it would be hers I love how she likes styles like all labels in logos together. You know what's interesting is that I don't think she has a stylist I think she really does it because he thinks she has a stylised. Because I should've so some travel with her no but the pack the looks. Okay I think she does have a stylus. I mean it's so sickening it's so red carpet in the hair but what I was gonna say was just seen marshawn killer kills it killer every look even the low bond with the big black pony scrunching fever look sickening sickening. So while she did look amazing I do have to say Erica's look wasn't my favorite like. It was probably my least favorite Eric has ever done, but again, I, respect her art so much and she says expressing herself in different ways. So I'm starting to see how like different air because sometimes I think Erica could switch wardrobes and it will but no Erica really like goes for a it's very dramatic and dramatic and debris. I don't know what the word for what her vibe is. But she just goes in a different direction. Also, it's different because literally everything Erica's wearing is a major designer but you would never know she doesn't really do labels whereas Doreen is like the flashier, the more ostentatious the better. Yeah. But like that's my vibe no of course, and they're both equally good. Just they bring so much to the show just in watching them get ready and the fact that. They don't even mention it anymore, but Erica always lends her Glam team to lease arena is fascinating fascinating thing they also probably just like getting ready together young. do you think that the forty five minute wait for rates look was worth it? Yeah. Of course, but it is rude like. While we are filming a TV show. It's also a real trip with real girls and it's like if they can get down there and Erica down there, you can get down there too I. think she likes to be the last one there to make a spectacle of her look a lot of ways she wants to compete at Erica's level and I respect that she's very strategic about it. It takes really like big woman to go against to try and compete with Erica. He's doing really great job and I think that they're both winners. Yeah. I mean she looked so fucking sickening and insane even in like the regular off like, of course, the big Golden Black Blazer. Moment was everything of the sort and her Erica had the same hair and it was so funny. But even I actually enjoy like the more casual looks more because they're more impressive to me like how she can be so dressed up. So casual at the same time you know makes me sad to think about when she goes back to her room and takes her makeup off. Yeah, and like washes her hair like but you know what? Sometimes I feel that way about my if we go to dinner and I got my make up and it was like a forty five minute dinner I feel that way put makeup on thirty but like she's giving us I think. If I were heard like it's for the television. Of course, I don't know if she would be going to this level like it doesn't matter how long they're actually out four because we have these looks forever the right they exist on television fraternity but as someone who does take a long time to get ready myself personally. I I refuse to ever be late because of it and reach be starting forty five minutes earlier. But at the same time like the so much into the day and. They have breakfast and then they have a day activity and then they go straight to the night and it's like torture. Yeah. Also when Doreen and Kyle, we're having lunch and they were having that pasta and that white wine and sunglasses were like reflecting each other and was serving the pasta to kyle and for ordering in Italian like. Sickening. It was sickening. It was this episode like literally made me want to buy a plane ticket and go to Rome and it made me want to go to Rome in the exact time. Do you know what? What month this is? Denise Stop Filming with the girls in December this is probably like October fabulous I love a chilly Rome. Day. You're wearing a nice coat outside. It's feel like it's more fun to dress up warm enroll. Oh, for sure. Okay I had no. Oh, what guys I want. that. So I just WANNA. Say Like I liked when denise on the second night like standing her ground grade the like everyone was just like so thrown off guard even if she was spewing lies like she was it I like when she is very strongly I think that she's putting up with so much on this trip. For, the way they talk about an easy would've thought she would have left the dinner the night before it never looks back but she showed up to Ferrari's she showed up dinner she's having these conversations. Next week maybe she walks out of dinner but by then it's completely just if I was so impressed with her waking up the next morning having all those girls come into a room and like talk about it I would I would be furious mortified I probably would've left also something that occurred to me is Kyle Richards keep saying brand needs a lot of things but she's not a liar and then I was thinking like was brand new telling the truth when she said that Kim was doing crystal meth in the bathroom. Also was telling the truth when she was saying that Maria was having an affair. Interesting very, very interesting I saw clip on twitter that was like. Kyle saying when Brandy was on the show she's like, Britney, will just say anything to get of course and so she. She's a liar when it's Kyle's narrative and she's not a liar when it doesn't right. But like don't make just playing it seems that's interesting Point Yeah and I. Don't think he was lying. We need to talk about one more thing based on the way she told the story like I my heart completely felt for her there are rumors that that conversation was filmed after they got back from Rome and like staked I think there was something shady about the scene not in the in the sense that it was filmed. At. A different time in the sense that it was just. So over produced and clearly stage like Randy's waiting in the car, but she's wearing a mike like. I don't know if I the rumors that I read on like literally some thread. Are Not verified in anyway and I don't know if I believe that I don't I didn't see anything evidence enough to make me believe it and I don't think he would even really change anything. Except he would prove that the women didn't need to bring it up because it hadn't been filmed yet could've done Denisa solid by just ignored it not bring it up. Yeah. Also, the last thing I want to talk about was Rina's conversation with Denise 'cause I'm just signing Brennan to be so disappointing to which is really sad yet. It is sad and. When she said, Disney, it's out there. It's like, no, it's not out there yet, and it's not out there on the show and even if it was in like Daily Mail and life and style. You can still how much stuff do we read about? Doreen. Erica. Kyle. That the women just ignore on the show. Oh Yeah I mean like that time in the Bahamas was chasing read around the pool and they cut that out because it was never spoken about again they did to read a solid. So it's very interesting. The more you talk about shit the worst gets Erica just time after time being so wise I don't know I just think. I think everyone could have done. Denisa. Solid and. At this point I just I don't care if it's sure not like it's true she's handling it. So poorly because she to do, she was blindsided I feel bad for her yeah. I feel I feel bad for her to like who wants any halfway around the world with like. These people who don't have your back and I agree Lisa arena is in her friendship to denise is incredibly disappointing. Yeah. The funniest on denise was like a little policy to you guys for sure. When would here's what you guys did to me here. But she handled that. Well, it's like, Gretzky. Things that aren't thing is like not a big deal. Yeah. She's very shrewd and so it comes. So she always untruthful she says like she's kind of fake and she says things that she doesn't really mean but she knows how to play the game because in in so many ways more than the other women she used this as a job. goes to film days of our lives. She goes to the house. I was like I get that it's her planning herself but I don't think she sees it as like a I'm going to open up and tell my story. It's like, no, I'm showing up to get my four million dollars and then I'm going home to take care of my kids. Yeah and also everyone's like she doesn't open up about her personal like what are she talks about her kid she? Talks about her husband like what? What are we missing? No one. It's not only that look what you determine. You found out something about her that was really personal. You fucking aired at like Jerry laundry. Why would you tell you fuckers anything right also for Gardell and her shadiness like in her confessionals when she said that Therese look was not worth forty five minute wait it was Oh, I thought that it was it was just she must've trying to be funny. And I thought Oursel- would she showed up in that black Tuxedo with the pink like? Wings loved love. She looked fabulous. I thought she looked great in the purple text she loves the Tuxedo Purple Tuxedo on their Ferrari Day. Yeah? I saw it as pink. Really Yeah. That's funny. That's so strange. Yeah. I mean maybe we were just talking about the same color but just describing it she's like so shady and I love that she's really exclusively shady at her confessionals because she's very. Yet answer for. But that's I mean, that's interesting housewifery. Yes. what she said about Lisa Arena and the dancing. Yeah. I was I wanted to bring that up I thought that was weird like. Whether I agree with it or not is irrelevant I. Just think like don't talk about someone's kids like thing you know we're gonNA put her kids kissing on the show I know I thought it was a it was an extremely Lake Shady. That's how she feels. Riano. Was Commenting on some carrying her instagram live saying that she loved Garcia. and. It was freaking out. Another quick house is update is that they filmed the real housewives of New York reunion yesterday at Oheka, castle shunning, which is like an iconic wedding venue was wearing a blank space music video was filmed. It's like where their house in royal pains. TV show. 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Comments By Bravo: *POTOMAC REUNION PT 2* + Erika & Tom, Jamal Bryant, Southern Charm, Kristin Cavallari, & More

"Hi guys i am as well and welcome to another episode of comments by bravo pay is. Hi how you doing a lot going on today. i just. I just can't believe this. I'm going to be honest. I can't believe we are sitting here another week with stories like this absolutely blowing our mind. What could possibly transpire in seven days. Never in my wildest dreams did. I envision that on the week of part two of the potomac reunion jamal. Bryant would not only come out with his own binder and upload a twenty five minute instagram. Live that this erica jane. Tom girardi stuff would escalate to this extent. Keep in mind. Not even to mention that we now have closure on kristin cavallari an amazing southern charm. Like this is a lot for anyone who specifically for us. We are in heaven right now. I feel like we are so annoying every week. Saying it doesn't get better the best week to be a bravo fan. But they deliver her stories and information and details that you couldn't write the best writer in the world. Nobody could even fucking dream of this. You guys know jam well where you were what was going on in your household at roughly eight thirty pm on friday night when erika jane dropped those quote receipts. It was the instagram heard. Round the world in terms of not even believing or not believing. Just oh my god. I can't believe this is happening. My jaw has never dropped harder. And i'm so excited to get into it because there's way more than just the instagram's let's check in with our bodies for second. 'cause i have a feeling there's a lot is about to go down. This is gonna be lengthy. So how are you feeling. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling ready. Like i want to dig deep into all of it. Okay me too shall we. Let's do it so one little announced that i wanted to make as you guys know. Technically were on break. These next two weeks is one. I we needed someone to talk about this stuff with so we came on anyway but in the last episode i had made a comment saying like. I don't even know if we're going to have ads for this week. Which i still don't really know and this woman reach out to me. She's the founder of dough. The vegan copied brand and she was like hi no pressure but i'm a loyal listener to the podcast. And you had mentioned. You're not gonna have add so i wanted to see if maybe you would want to shatter my company and i was literally starstruck because everybody has been posting about this literally. Last week kristin cavallari posted about it tanks. Who's like our favorite tiktok posted about it. The company website is at age. Odu you x. i'm sure you've seen it. Is that vegan cookie. Joe that has like vitamins and supplements in it. You can eat it raw you can bake. Everybody is having it. It's amazing and she reached out it's also female woman of color founded which we love so i was so excited to highlight this business. She made a cold frost. Its cbc ten. I mean if you want to know pressure obviously but we have heard the best things about this. You sending it to us. I am so excited and everybody in their mothers posting about it. So when i found out she was a listener and she asked us if we would talk about it. I was so excited. And i highly recommend i actually asked tags and she was like i live and breathe this stuff like you're never going to believe who deemed me. Who eat joe genuinely. Our excitement level was so much higher than you would think but it was really there. It was really. There's i got so excited. She's a listener. We love highlighting businesses of listeners so. Cbc ten eat doubt d. u. x. If you wanna try it so you would you wanna bekker's larry. I do trust her opinion on these types of things in when she's posting about it. I'm like okay m whenever i'm going to follow a dermatologist. Or something and i see kristin cavallari follows it. I'm like okay. That's a really high seal of approval. I know that's why we do as the car. And kristin cavallari is a big proponent of that which was another reason that i decided to sign on with them. When we decided to do this. Podcast did you ever think we'd be speaking about kristin cavallari as much as we are literally the theme of this podcast never in my wildest dreams not only on this podcasters in general even on the regular episodes my god she's relevant. Although let me quickly say i take avec is always knew the kristin cavallari tracking through my life my love for those laguna beach. Days was not gonna be for nothing you know. Yeah she like in bended being an influence our and she's been influencing us since the low rise gene days exactly in god of those by the bank god a row they might be making a comeback so everyone. Please don't make that happen. Yeah anyway okay. So quick little explanation of how we're gonna do this. We're gonna start with arrogant tom. There's so much to unpack their get into that in a second or then going to wrap up the kristin cavallari saga by way of austin and craig on watch what happens a little bit of social media and that will lead us right into southern charm. Those are going to be the two biggest stories other than potomac. Which of course. We're going to end with then full-blown jamal bryant breakdown and then potomac reunion so so so much there. I'm so excited to get into that. Anything else you wanna add. I don't think so. Let's begin okay. So we're gonna start with erica. Jane and tom girardi a full update. I just. I wanna say. Because i vowed to do a lot of reading. I just want all of to understand that. On friday night. When erica uploaded those quote text messages of tom and his mistress is were on the phone for maybe two hours unable to even speak just on the phone like freaking out over the next move and that's the same energy that i'm bringing to this podcast right now. Yeah i think we initially just spoke about it got post up and then we stayed pretty silent just refreshing everyone else's page and every five minutes one of us would say oh my god and we'd be silent and then oh my god and we just. We didn't know what to do. So on thursday the l. a. times dropped this insane article titled the legal titan in the real homicide. The rise involved. Tom jordan erika jayne was by matt hamilton. Harriet ryan and basically what we did here. Is we put in the entire introduction. And then we put in one part where they spoke about and her music career her introduction to housewives and kind of how that all was intertwined with tom's professional relationships so i know normally i'll read like a paragraph or two but i have to read more here. If you've already read it you don't want to hear it fast. Forward a couple of minutes but i genuinely think this article was so excellent that i would want on. Audiobook agree with totally agreed so it starts from his wilshire. Boulevard office tom. Girardi has dominated consumer lawn california and beyond for decades wrestling billions of dollars from drug companies carmakers and polluters. on behalf of the injured in cheated most famously. In the case inspired erin brockovich. His cut of those legal victories of forty percent brought him spectacular wealth with his third wife. A pop singer known as erika jane. He appears on real housewives. Beverly hills flaunting a couple of historic pasadena state and lifestyle private planes jewelry. Exotic cars katori field closets and vacation in aspen mykonos. The millions giardi poured into democratic political campaigns nita mccarthy generations of powerbrokers including governor gavin newsom. Who last year gave the attorney official role in filing coveted state judgeships but now in the twilight of his career. The eighty one year old is facing the collapse of everything. He holds dear his venerable law firm marriage reputation as a champion for the downtrodden. He stands accused of stealing millions of dollars from vulnerable clients including indonesian children orphaned by a plane crash and burn victim in the pacific asking electric pipeline explosion. His creditors have demanded payment in court. among them. high interest lenders fell lawyers a security company that once guarded his pasadena mansion and his first wife near the all the attorneys who worked at his firm. Girardi keys have left including his own son-in-law and last month jane petition for divorce word of his downfall circulated through law firms and judge's chambers in stunned whispers for months before busting into public this week when a federal judge froze yards assets and called his mishandling of the indonesian. children's money quote. Unconscionable quote at one point i had about eighty million or fifty million cash. That's all gone. Girardi acknowledged testimony. This fall that another client's funds quote. I don't have any money. It was an extraordinary admission from a titan of american law who strode the courthouse halls with an aura of invincibility and whose name had become synonymous with massive windfalls where all the money went remains a topic of intense speculation and neither jane nor girardi representatives responded to requests for comment. Some creditors have pointed out to his much younger wife. Girardi has underwritten jane's attempts at fame as a recording artist with songs. Painkiller and expensive and Reality tv figure who dropping forty thousand dollars a month on clothes hair and makeup. Okay that was just the introduction which a- not redesigned perfect holy shit now mic. drop of an intro. Am i right mic. Drop of an intro. Because i think with article relieved showing it so much deeper than what's just recently coming out. Yeah it kind of encompasses their entire relationship his status and reputation and what the public perceives. Her as. it's hard for us. I think feeling like we know her so well quote unquote where other people who might be looking at this for the first time. Now we're seeing it. And like i almost can take a step back and understand how other people are taking it. Yeah it's almost as the last minute saying that will go back to reading. But it's almost as if we as viewers are kind of reality check into being like wait. Why were we so okay with this when clearly something off your yeah we were just in so deep and i don't i don't i don't even know her so i'm able to look at it from a different lens. Yeah much more of a spectator now. Yeah it's really weird okay. Next part because this is like my favorite thing of all time. Yeah okay so this. Next part is called a rocky music career than fame on real housewives. The italian american lawyers association's annual supreme court night was normally a tasteful affair with attorneys and judges gathering in a biltmore hotel ballroom for an orchestra performance and remarks by california's justices. Then there is twenty seven drowsy. The association president that year announce a special treat for the audience a screening of his wife's latest music video for the next four and a half minutes. The justice watched but the rest of the crowd as scantily clad. Jane gyrated onscreen the metropolitan news enterprise l. A century old legal newspaper term the event quote a fiasco quote set at a smoke party the video. Fm correctly advised includes a woman partier pouring liquor on a man's bare chest and laughing. It up roy. Newspaper editor roger. Grace judges were absolutely beside themselves. Grace recalls in a recent interview. The video is part of. Jane's midlife attempted a recording career a decade into her marriage. She had grown bored with being the wife of extremely wealthy lawyer quote. There was nothing more i could buy. She wrote in her memoir. She feared being quote relegated to a life of shopping sitting on a few charity boards of no consequence and standing silently by my husband's side full of unrealized potential. She decided to launch herself into the music industry. As a body dance diva and presented girardi with spreadsheet of her desire production budget. He was a billion percent supportive she wrote in her memoir his deep pockets for advantages. Few rookies could imagine michael jackson's choreographer writer who would work with madonna stevie nicks in brittany spears and a costume designer for lady gaga on rupaul. In the years that followed she found some success she had nine hits on billboard's dance chart toward in asia developed a cult following the lgbtq community. Drowsy often on hand for shows. She wrote sometimes even picking up checks from club managers. Some of her husband's lawyer judge friends. Roll their eyes boy. They hated my ass. You later. Tell real house is yours. If it bothered girardi did not let it show by twenty teen. She was preparing to close down her costly music ventures as she recalls in her memoir return on investment was wasn't really making sense anymore before she could announce her retirement she was cast on housewives. Her tv persona was built on the tension between her marriage to a much older famous attorney and her dance hall. Image as an oversexed cash obsessed pinup. She threw herself back into music. Launching and pushing out videos including one in which she saying quote. It's expensive to be me. While writing on a bed covered with money. I liked the fact that his name expensive. Her husband said on housewives of the single. It kinda suits you. There is so much to unpack here. I genuinely don't even know where to begin. No this is. Do you want me to go over. The people are should be recap this one quickly. The only thing. I wanna say is the weirdest thing that i cannot get out of my mind. Is the idea of her music. Video playing at a lawyer conference because we've all seen her videos. They are raunchy. They're they're amazing for what they are however they almost feel like the scene in mean girls were. They're doing the really inappropriate. Dan's at the school function and everyone doesn't know what to do. You also have to flashback. To when the real housewives of beverly hills went to bethany franken's house remember and erica showing bethany the music video. They're they're in an intimate group of five women. And they're all like whoa. This is raunchy so to imagine a ballroom filled lawyers. No i'm sorry to me that is what shattered my illusion that they re that. Tom and erica quote. Get it that they like our normal nice understanding. Get social cues. That is what i was like. Okay we do not know these people at all. I so agree with you and that means comparison is golden. But by the way. It's not in my opinion. Just because of the nature of eric. Eric videos in general. It seems kind of a weird thing to do like it. Just seems misplaced to air this music video at this conference. There's a time and a place for everything. And i love her ship. But not for this type of thing right. We're not putting on a lady gaga video at the lawyer conference. It's just not happening. It honestly has nothing to do with the content of her video but also everything to do with it. It just so bizarre and we'll get into the potential motives in a little bit but i just have to say out of this whole incredible article. Which every last word you can learn something to me. That little tidbits stood out the most. And i have not stop thinking about it since i read it. I completely agree. 'cause the social cues part. Is i think a really good way to put it. It's kind of like. We always understood from an outsider perspective arrogant. Tom's marriage was unconventional. What we grew kind of accustomed to that we were down for it but then we were never privy to this type of gathering. You know what i mean. We never saw that firsthand. And this i feel like really made us feel like we were there. We were imagining being a server and watching lawyers like view this in horror in a way yeah and also the whole story that we have learned about them had in our minds is not really the truth and i think we really really genuinely believed what we saw was how it was and like there were so many details that were completely omitted and back to our earlier discussion last week or two weeks ago knowing that our gut and what we believe is the truth and our perspective on them. It was wrong. I feel just like so upside down. That is the only way to put it. I feel so upside down. Okay let me quickly go through this next thing. Then there's so much talk. Yeah oh my not even that good survey for so that. La times article came out on thursday. Okay the next day. Friday morning people drops an article titled erica. Girardi filed for divorce from tom because she believes he was cheating on her and in it it says that a source said quote the reason she divorced thomas because he was cheating on her with multiple women a source adds she's known about his inability for years but wanted to try and save the marriage then quote when she was performing her last week on broadway. He left her high and dry and was frolicking around town. Instead of supporting her and attending her shows the insider says quote. She realized she would never be a priority. Jim and that was her breaking point. So this article comes out. Everybody's kind of like well. This feels a little bit bizarre. This feels kind of like a cover up. you know. Maybe he was cheating on her. But this really seems like an attempt to kind of hide. The financial claims that she was involved in the whole the whole outlook. I felt on social media for those few hours was like bullshit. How almost as a a punchline of a joke everyone was posting. Even i posted the article title just because i knew people were interested by it and this was something new that we hadn't really heard yet an honestly probably didn't assume or that wasn't our first jump was to be like. Oh he must be cheating on her so it was a new development. That was just so interesting and just sounded funny in a way like it was just unexpected so and everyone had a field day with that pretty much throughout the whole day it was. It was received as if it was a hail mary. In my opinion. I that's how the public was like. Okay erica choosers throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks because clearly there's more stuff going on maybe he was but everybody was like that's not the sole reason here you know like how dumb do you think we are right. Exactly okay. that happens in already by the way we are reeling from this. La times article. This people article. We have so many things to talk about but nothing could have prepared us for roughly eight thirty. Pm pacific standard. Time on friday. Night when erica posted a photo of collage of old text messages. Caption this is justice. Tricia a bigelow. She was fucking my husband. Tom girardi and he was paying her sacks bill and paying for plastic surgery okay. Let me make something very clear to you. I know you all saw these but take yourself back to the initial moment that they were posted. If you're lucky enough to see them in the twenty or so minutes before they were deleted these were straight up pictures of text messages from a phone that looked like it was from. Nineteen eighty-three on a good day. She kept in the phone number. We'll get into the whole theories. We'll get into the dates and all of that. But i need to just i put yourself back into that moment of seeing and being like what the fuck is going on here you almost felt like you must now felt like it was a joke. I think you felt like it was a joke. And also i couldn't believe my eyes and everyone was swirling. Is this real. Is this hacked winner these from. Who is this with the deal breaking down because it's not like one text or one photo. There's so many little details here to unpack and immediately my investigative goes on. I guess i've just watched too much. Svu where we're looking at dates. Were looking at the phone. Everything and i couldn't read the text fast enough. And her caption alone was a mic drop. We didn't know what to do. We we were flipping out so some of the texts included her saying miss you. Makeup sex tonight was fantastic really but it would be a whole lot better if i were fucking you then. Sending him a picture of her ass jeans a picture of her on the bed. Saying i can't believe. Dr matlock is already calling you and asking for the check. That's a plastic surgeon. Who i guess she was asking him to fund the bill for all this type of thing. I can ask my new boyfriend to pay. It's a problem. He's got big dough except era. Okay in those minutes before the post was deleted kyle commented on it received with a green checkmark. So right after this happened when everybody is trying to make sense of it writer. Tracy morsi we follow on instagram. Really great follow. She kind of did like an immediate deep dive on this so this was within the first hour that they were posted and she said quote. These are all messages from an old flip. Phone the abc's indicate that these types on a numeric keyboard switch into alphabet mode most of the world's switched to four june. Two thousand. two thousand ten. She then said based on the days of the week with dates the last time those dates fell in those days was in two thousand sixteen before that it was twenty eleven before that it was two thousand five. She then posted photos of tom. That were taken in january. Two thousand nineteen in the photos you can see. He's holding an old flip phone but it was not the same phone to different brands so which she kind of came up with. The end of this is her theory. Is that era. Discovered those tax around mid september. And that's when she screened that music video at the legal gala in december. Twenty eleven to make up for so she believes that erica discovered this type of behavior happening in twenty eleven and that she was now bring you into the service anything else you want to add before we go to the next key. No let's get into justice bigalow before we break it down. Okay so when you google tricia a bigelow. You find out that. She was confirmed as the presiding justice of the second district court of appeal division eight in february. Two thousand ten. You also find out that. She has received awards She was a deputy attorney. General for the state of california assigned to the criminal division so while there she was handling felony appeals etc. She went to california state university and her law degree at pepperdine. So you know we find out. She's a real person and she definitely has some accolades and she seemingly as well respected in the community. Yeah there's photos of her that match up exactly those pictures that were in the text message issues blonde. I mean not that. I know much about tom. Brady's type but seems like someone that he might wanna pay their sex bill and this was just something i never ever ever saw coming. No mine i also add. I'm sure you all saw this. But when she posted the she left in the phone number which not that it really at the end of the means anything. But i need to. I need to have a better understanding. Exactly erica's goal in the moment. Because let me be really clear. I agree with everybody that was messing like. This was an attempt to hide any of her involvement in his wrongdoings. Can we can we. Can we agree on that. Oh absolutely right like whether or not. This was happening whether or not. Tom was cheating which totally could have been like. She's known about this. So why is it only coming out. Now why is it only being brought to the public sphere. If you've known about this for the last nine years when you're also in hot water you know like it was. It was an attempt absolutely to me. This was a direct clapback to the media and the public. I think who were doubting the articles of the source that we spoke out with people saying there's no i like he was cheating on her like that's bullshit that's just trying to cover it up. That's just a way for her to file for divorce without seeming sketchy and she wanted to give big fuck you to all the doubters and say see he really was cheating here my receipts and thought that this would be kind of like drop the bomb. Here's the proof see. I wasn't lying. That is really in line. I think with erika's personality overall. Like if you're gonna talk shit about me. Here's the facts like shot. Everyone up so in that sense i thought it was on brand but i'm just i'm just so not used to Her not being so writer. Die for tom. I'm sorry so weird everything that we've ever seen about her has been. Don't talk about my husband. He is the light of my life. You know he. I look up to him. I aspire to him. I don't even want any of my friends to be around him. You have to be a certain way or good enough to be in his presence so then for her to rip him like this on instagram with these photos and then to get into the details of the photos when they're from like also that's another thing did she not think she's already being accused of this whole plot being a cover up. Did she posting taxed. That looked like something we haven't seen in decades was fishy was suspicious would undermine her argument i just i don't know if that's necessarily the route i would have gone. Well the thing is. I do believe that a lot of this was. She knew exactly what she was doing in. She put the post up. She deleted it after twenty minutes. I think that was all preplanned. It was twelve hours after the people article came out so to me. She knew this was going to get people talking about this particular thing whether they were speculating about the messages whatever. It was for a brief moment in time. I think in her belief kind of took people's attention away from her being involved in the financial misdoings. Yeah it was like a small win for her. You know if people are saying he didn't cheat on me in that's bullshit. At least i can prove them wrong whether it was a decade ago or not and i knew about it and we've had some arrangement whether she's also had her own indiscretions like this is such a narrow view of the story but after she posted that she deleted it she then commented on a photo on sue loves you who has a bravo. Merch store She posted a photo of of mug with the text on it. And eric accommodated. Can you send me one with a crying laughing emoji. I think sort of indicating that she was pretty proud of this. It wasn't like a shame. Thing and deleting it was just part of the drama of all of it she also posted a whole video. That app that put your face onto a character of from game of thrones with no caption and she posted a photo of her and all white and wrote so fresh so clean after these tax photos were deleted. I dunno just it. It was weird. That i think she was posting in not writing about what just happened but also maybe wanted more attention on her page or less attention. I honestly have to get something out here because what you said earlier about how. You're so not used to seeing her. Like ryder die for tom. I feel like i need to be very transparent. And saying i am. This thing has fucked me up in the sense of like. I can't come on here and pretend like you know not only. Did i see this coming but that this makes so much sense. I'm really confused. I'm really by all of this. I absolutely believe that she knew what was going on to some extent financially like. I don't believe that she's innocent. And all this not for a second. I also if you look at that. L. a. times article a lot of was being said is that he was embezzling funds directly into her you know. Ej whatever the name of the corporation was for her music. Like i definitely think she knew some stuff going on their neighbors didn't know exactly where the money was coming from but she knew it wasn't kosher but i'm really confused by all this like i don't i don't feel like i have my footings at all. I i don't think it cut and dry for us to all be able to say this is bullshit. She's just as bad as him at. It's over like there's so much more that we don't know even though we know a lot it's such a layered story to if this had just been strictly money situation. I maybe would be like okay. I'm not the most shocked. There's always scandal with money especially when you have that much wealth however the morality of the situation of taking money away from the families of victims of plane crash is not what i expected from both of them their character the kind of people that they are. Say what you want about them they both seemingly were really good people and that is just unfathomable and also on top of it. Not just the facts of what's happened how they've been handling it afterwards posting these texts the way that they've been in court and the stories in the back and forth is also not how i ever ever ever thought that they would handle it like we said we really think of them as classy people who have their shit together who know public perception. Who have social cues. Who've been thomas been at this game for as long as anyone knows. The deal is smarter than this. And we're just proven wrong time and time again like everything we knew and how i would if you would ask me a month ago. Hey if tom girardi was caught stealing money they handle it. I would say the best way possible. Whatever that means in this is just not it. No this is just not an actually. I'm glad you said that. Because the point that i wanted to make earlier was i feel like what's happening. A little bit in the public right now is people being like. I never liked erica. I knew something was off. And that's totally fair. And i can respect that but challenge yourself for a second. Did you just not like erica. And he thought something was maybe not right with her lifestyle or. Did you think that she and tom were capable of taking money. From the victims of a plane crash and burn victims. Because there's a big difference between not liking someone and then thinking that their moral compass allows them to do something like this. Because i'm going to be honest. Maybe you thought something was up. I don't think most people would have ever thought this. I really don't think that people would have gone this far like that. Did that article. I can't get over. That article is so dark. You guys with what they're talking about is not only that this has been going on for a long time. There are a lot of victims similar to this. And also the fact that like he was basically operating his law firm as a giant ponzi scheme with they were. They were kind of equating him. You was the law firm version of bernie madoff on a smaller scale. Because so much of his practice or all his practice based on contingency so he only got paid if the deal got the deal made so when he would take out an investment he would then promise you know well we have at least x x million coming this year so it was just a constant constant promise that was never kept. So it's not like the victims of these different incidents coming from. It's also so many other creditors and we're talking about a man now that has basically lost everything. It's pure panic. Oh all a facade. Everything and to your point about people not liking her before people didn't like her in the normal housewives way. They thought she was pretentious. Cold didn't open up. they didn't like her storyline. That whatever there wasn't anything super deep and she's had her shit in the past people have called her out on it but it was never never taken to such a dark deep place where we thought. Oh my god as an actual person. Maybe we don't like her. That's the thing even if you hate housewife if you came face to face with them you had to have dinner most of the time you're like okay. They're human. There's a human element there. Maybe they're not the best television but we can get past. This has taken it beyond that line and has opened up the curtain to the backstage of. I don't even know just nothing. We ever expected before now and also by the way same for tom like i really do. Think in the housewives world even. If you didn't like that relationship you liked him. He was well respected. Because what i'm so confused about is according to all these things. This stuff in terms of his mishandling legally have been going on for a while now even if they weren't as bad or as morally corrupt is like the plane crash. Type thing just some other things and it wasn't ever brought to the public attention in terms of housewives viewers. We never knew that he was anything other than this various steamed lawyer very recently. So that's what i'm confused like. How is this so well hidden for so long. I guess there were rumblings about it. Maybe in the industry. I don't really know i guess it's a power thing. It must be a power thing. He still held a lot of power in his his law. Firm his i don't know his title his money it it. That's just what happens. Sometimes in this completely backfired and blew up in a way that they never. I'm sure saw coming. No no no. No no. Although i have to tell you it really does make me sad. And when they're talking about his mental competency in how he basically says. I have nothing. I had you know sixty million in cash my fortune. He used to estimate around two hundred ninety five million and he has nothing. It's like where did all that money go. And how much of that is now. Anger directed at erica for the amount that he was funding because according to that article she was ready to retire this music career until it became such her storyline on housewives. So i wonder if there's an amount of resentment there you know yeah that too is interesting. I didn't read her book yet. Which i think now is even more interesting to me that it was when it came out because looking at it with this lens is definitely gonna be a ride. But i don't know if that was the thing. I don't know if that was something exposing about her wanting to be on the show i really i just don't know and i feel like people will say okay so naive. How did you not see this coming. I really genuinely did it. If you had told me there were some money situation and that was it fine but the corruption and the fighting. It's all it's all a mess. It's really a mess. It's really a mess. And as i say i don't care I'd rather go down as being a little bit more like ignorant to the fact than lying. Say saad cummings. I'd saw this coming zero percent. Yeah i never calls on our bullshit. We were on here months ago. Talking about we stand on gherardi he this change our whole view on him. He such a good guy barroga's now up to his merit other marriage together and we loved seeing that side of her. Maybe he'll be on the next season more stuff like that so we it's not even like we don't have a podcast where there's concrete proof of us standing them so hard. Oh that's what. I'm saying like we're in deep. I don't care fuck it. I know. I know i mean i still i still. If i didn't know this stuff with still view him. And i still look at his face. When i see pictures in like this very warm warm way you know he he clearly. Something is just really going on here and this has been one of the craziest like one of the craziest developments than we will keep. Every week we will keep updating you guys because it just gets more intense as the weeks go on. i thought this would just be a couple weeks of updates. but i'm now seeing may end up being permanent segment because of everything that's gone on and if she's going to comment on it i don't even know i don't know what they're allowed to do but i i can't can you fucking believe they are filming. House is right now no see. Can we quickly talk about that. I know we have to move on. But i have to ask you something. I'm i'm sorry. Just i can't believe that this is what i need to ask you. What do you think or let me rephrase my question. Do you think the opening episode of this season beverly hills will be all the news articles flashing on the screen similar to how kardashians opens with the news articles of corona virus or denise brandy or whatever those things do you think that the first episode is going to be kind of centered around hamanaka. If bravo loves us. Yes will be impossible not to. I'm sorry there was a point in the very very beginning where i was like. Okay they could pretty much skirt around this not completely not address it but you know they kind of downplay. It would be part of her story the divorce etc. This has blown up to away this. It was front page la times. I think this is mainstream media news. It's not just bravo blogs and tabloids talking about it this has entered a different stratosphere. Especially i think because who thomas. It's on eric. Married to some random guy where it only is connected to bravo. He is such a figure and taken so seriously. This is news is real news so for them to ignore it and not give it the way that we feel it would be so weird and wrong and also as the as her friends. The women are reading all this to going through with her. So i don't know. I'm i'm equally as curious to see how she's handling it and what the other women's reactions are right now as she posted that instagram. Or as they're reading the headlines as people who really intimately know her and him. I totally agree. I physically physically can't wait and you're like how you said if bravo loves us if history repeats itself bravo does love us. They love us right. They love us. I just when. I close my eyes at night now just going to dream about that opening and if they love us they give us a tax. They'll give us a six months ago a two months earlier though. Give me a l. a. times headline on my hopes up and i'm really excited now. Physically can't wait on my anything else. You wanna mention on this entire saga. No i'm just like speaking to myself next week that i hope something good happens this week and we get some more answers more commentary which i know it. Well well trust me it. Well something will happen it. Will it asks you yeah okay. Let's take a break. I don't i don't i don't think at least we have as this week. But this is a good time to put in our listener survey because we want to I recorded this last week but basically we wanna get you guys to tell us more about you where you're from Any feedback and so there is a specific link that we put in. I'm going to put that in right now Just because it helps us be better for you. So it's kind of a win wins. Let me put that in and we will come back with southern charm kristin cavallari that whole thing. So we've never done this before by it. I know. I always say to you guys how we feel like we know you which we really do but we would love to know even more about you who you are what you like. 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Nelson were on watch. What happens live after the southern charm episode. And a viewer. Ask a question to austin which was what is going on with kristin cavalieri harrow. Are you such good friends and is there something else. There kind of what has been on our minds as of last week when they're instagram live and they were hanging out and we wanted to know what is the deal. So austin in kind. Of a smug ways how i would describe it answered this question and i just want also know when he says we and them. I think he's referring to kristen. And also her best friend justin anderson. As if they're a pair and austin kreiger apparen- they've sort of become a four or five some with their girlfriends and fiances. So austin says yes. So honestly she's slid into craig's. Dmz and was like. I'm coming into town so we all went to dinner kind of hit it off and we wanted to go visit them so we did and honestly we all just get along so so well you know. Kristen is out of a ten year long relationship. She's not looking for anything. I'm out of one. You know who has one kid. There's no reason to jump into something with someone who has three kids. I can promise you that and craig's like chimes in. It says natalie's at the dinner to kind of i guess softening the romantic element. Andy says it seems like you both could be looking for fun. I mean she was humping your neck in that video that i saw an austin said. She is certainly living her best life right now. Craig gives it the seal of approval so obviously there is no hard no there. There's no confirm or deny and to me watching it. Austin was loving this moment and loving his kind of like nonchalant to cool attitude and light alluding that maybe there could be something there. Yes and before we get into what happened on social media right. After i knew before kristen or anderson said a word that this was not going to be well received because there was no reason that awesome needed to be so kind of ambiguous yet. He was doing exactly. What his publicist. You wanted him to get. The most airtime possible want him to do you know what i mean. It was just it was like he so easily could have shut it down immediately and he didn't and keep in mind you guys. This was after her boyfriend. Jeff die already. Came out saying he wishes so he was really kind of doing that thing where he could turn round be like what i didn't say anything yet didn't say anything you didn't confidently say no. And that was where he went wrong in. Christians is i believe i think if we didn't know better we would be like. Oh my god. They're totally dating. And i think he thought he was pulling off some smooth move. I'm going to milk this story a little longer. Who wouldn't want to be linked to kristin cavallari. He's loving this moment in the spotlight. So he's like you know what gonna take another moment to keep it going and kind of help people speculate more and not even just his publicist. It was him. And i think a lot of it was him wanting madison to see this and doubts in her mind of course but that's that's their entire relationship. They do things even so much for what they want. They put themselves in the eyes of the other person. I think what we'll get a rise out of them. Yeah and i think to him it was worth potentially i- ruining his friendship with kristin cavallari. Which i do think he did to make the super mean jab at madison. Yes and by the way quickly To read the story. But that is why austin and i like him i really do. That is why he's a professional self-sabotager because he doesn't have the foresight that i think he so badly wants to or wants to think that he does he's just not there yet his maturity level. Isn't there yet. I don't mean to sound like tricia but it's true and so anybody a little bit more. Skilled would not have handled this this way neither would have crag. He doesn't have the foresight to see the consequences of his actions. Yeah beyond instant gratification. Yes yes and that's his immaturity. Yeah okay so just anderson posts the page six article the said awesome kroll says kristin cavallari slid into craig convers. Dm's he posted into kristin cavallari. Post this so we can move on now. The kind of thing. I should speak up. About kristen would never randomly slide to anyone's dm's. I was a fan of our new friends. Craig in austin and we visited charleston and met up with them. I push for the friendship. Christmas along for the and no one is hugging upper. Even flirting four dulcet our friends. Let's move on. Kristen reposted that story and said literally nothing to see here people now. Let's all move on. So after that she posted to stories and she wrote my kids. Put everything in perspective all their stupid internet rumors people thinking they know me my situation. It's all just noise. I know who i am and my kids know who i am. That's all i care about. That's why i typically never comment on the bs. Then she said okay. Last thing the the internet thrives on click bait and juicy stories. No one gives a shit. If the headline his quote kristin cavallari is just finally really happy and they have to generate content every fucking day so they exaggerate twists words. Straight up lie. Keep that in mind. I mean let me ask you something question yes. Do you think that this ruined the friendship or do you think it was kind of like a little bit off putting but they'll still be friends like i'm sorry if i was kristen i'd be so fucking annoyed i really would. This is the last thing she needs. She gets so much press and you finally make a really good new friend and to feel like. Oh he's just gonna use me to. I would be so annoyed. I think her stories were way nicer if she was going to post one. And almost blaming the media in the consistent new cycle as opposed to just answer the question and say no no. you know. we're really good friends. We have a lot of fun together. How easy it could have been for him to give a straight answer and shut it down. But he was loving it too much and i think for her. She probably felt used and weirded out. And i don't i. I think that would be the end of the friendship don't you. I just feel like there's no way after such clear lying. And i don't know don't you i i yeah. I don't know i'm not commented. It's going to be the end of the friendship because justin didn't say that it was in his post. But you know what. I was thinking about a lot was i think it was. Maybe be there in five. Podcast we on but somebody was saying how you know they're surprised kristin cavallari was associated with austin and craig because they know that they're all reality television but that she feels like more quote reality television royalty and that this was a step beneath her. That's not my words that was ever said that. And i think in the moment i responded i was like no i could kind of see that i do think this type of reality television stick with each other but in that moment i had this realization of like kristin cavallari is just more of a celebrity. Then austin like in that moment it really stuck out to me that he is much more of a reality star and even know her entire start was reality television. She feels like more of a celebrity type person in the way that she handles things. Do you know what i mean. Yeah and i. He didn't treat it that way. He didn't realize. Oh my god choosing a really kind of high profile marriage and then divorce and how he can't just play the bullshit bravo games that he plays maybe with madison or other people. This is way bigger way more newsworthy than what he's used to. I know he's not dumb. He knows that. But i don't know if he's ever really experienced so i it's on excuse but i just was so so interesting. Almost cringely on austin's behalf watching him. When he wasn't answering that i was like really i was very put off. I i and it's funny. Because you and i were just saying like we like them like is. We're both watching mantra happens. We were texting each other. And i don't know we like credit often like yes they have all this bullshit specifically austin but there are just kinda likeable guys. They seem like the kind of guys you could have fun with. So this was off putting. Yeah and we were saying it would be so fun to go out with so if you just said can i have a friend. That's a girl. We just really like each other. We hit it off. We met because maybe justin just a fan of the show was like. Oh we're going to charleston. Let's hit up the southern charm guys because we can and have fun with them. Bill node the best spots to take us. And that's it exactly and bringing the kid thing into it. I also thought was very weird. Yes why would he say. Christmas has three kids. She's not looking for anything she is. She's in a relationship and to be like you know. I just got out of something with a girl who has one kid. I'm not about to do with someone who has three was so off. It was just not the right angle and when he didn't realize also was that it was further proving. Everyone's point like there's anything wrong with not feeling like you're ready to take on a stepdad role. I know i'm really getting ahead of myself here but like there's nothing wrong with that but that was what everybody had been saying about one of the reasons madison shouldn't be with him and meanwhile he's proving everyone's point in way of defending himself. Yeah yeah the whole thing was just bad. I wish she could redo it. And have i could have given him three million better answers even if he by the way. Even if you wanted to still keep a little mystery it could have been handled better and it was just bad. I agree the way that we're going to handle this next part. Is there a couple of things they spoke about on. Watch what happens because it was really great. That tied into the episode. So we're kind of going to combine those and then at the end we'll talk about anything that didn't come up on what happens if it was necessary for the exit so as we saw at the end crag took madison aside. Basically saturday was like you need to really cut ties with austin. Because he's still holding onto a sense of false hope and on watch what happens. Andy asked craig if he told austin about this conversation before. Or if he had to watch down on the show. And craig craig said you know. Sometimes it's better to just not say anything. Let them watch go down. He was like but in bermuda and shop sat down austin and we kinda told him about this. And andy then ask austin how he perceives it and austin basically did not perceive it. Well he was not happy that happened but it was almost as if like they all acknowledged. Maybe it didn't go down in the way that it could have. However you could understand craig's actions like he was justified in doing what he did because it really did. Come from a good place you know. I can't explain to you how deeply i felt. Both of their sides putting myself in either one of their shoes. I saw it crystal-clear from boston's perspective. I'd be so annoyed. Here's a missing puzzle piece. While i'm trying to figure this out that i didn't know about and here's my friend trying to push away. The girl i love for you know i wanted. Maybe get back with her. There's a glimmer of hope and here. He is going against my agenda in a way. But then from craig's perspective. He is literally being an amazing friend. He's we've all been there and he is saying to he. He recognized that he couldn't get through to austin and saying just let her go. Stop texting her. You know she doesn't want to be with you. Don't hang onto these texas she sending you with don't give them so much energy and power and he realized he was smart enough to realize that was not. That wouldn't do it. He had to go straight to the source and luckily he is a really nice friendship with madison. And he said listen for the good of my friend for his mental health for his moving on in his sanity. You have to stop texting him. Because i know it's easy for you and when you say a hold your hand through all of this etc maybe that wouldn't affect you so much because clearly let's state like he's way more in love with her than she is with him and so for her it may not she may not realize how hard that is making it for him but cruise like please cut it off. It is physically impossible you. It's either all or nothing and he cannot handle this. Yeah and i also just want to say that. It's hard. Because i found myself really like wearing two hats because on one hand as of you're i was so frustrated by both madison. At austin. i was like you gotta just fucking do a clean break. It's never gonna work. But then i was putting myself into that exact same situation that i had been in in a relationship not toxic one and all but like it's so much easier said than done to just remove yourself like having that line of communication with that person is so hard to communicate the importance of until you've been in that situation so i really did understand both sides i really. I knew that craig was right. But also i know not only how good it felt for awesome even though it was a false sense of good to receive those messages. I know how also it felt for madison because on a certain level she felt a sense of guilt. So i know if you're looking at this from a cynical approach you wanna say. She was just setting him. Those text messages that you knew that he was always in her back pocket. Maybe there was helmet there to absolutely but also it felt good on her end to like still have that sense of intimacy with him in terms of like a close relationship and i i got both sides. I know craig was right but like the human side of me could get where they also were coming from. You know totally and to feel like okay. I'm not on bad terms with anyone. There's not someone that i'm not speaking to. Especially she keeps saying that they're best friends above their relationship. So you're right. It's it's like okay. I've checked that box. We're still on okay terms. I can text him if i need him. And that is the best case scenario for her clearly for him. It was not right. Yeah also another gale on watch. What happens was in this last. Seen in the episode we see craggy madison having the seemingly. Great friendship at all as well and then on watch what happens. Andy asks craig if he's upset. That madison said that. He doesn't see craig. Natalie being long-term and craig was like. Yeah that really did upset me and specifically you know andy mentions madison was speaking about. How austin slept with natalie. And that's one of the reasons and craig was like. That's bullshit like we all knew that. I was introduced to natalie through austin that was never hidden from me. Like he's he literally said like i've no interest in being friends with her anytime soon. He's really pissed at madison. Which i understand. How do you go on national television and say that you don't believe that your friend relationship is going to last because of some bullshit like almost slut shaming thing. I would have been pissed off. I was craig also. That was our reaction when we heard him when we heard madison say that the first time was isn't that kind of normal. Don't shame her for that just because she hooked up with your friend to me. That's like all the more reason. Okay it makes a lot of sense now. The together that happens all the time girls are the bride. And they've hooked up with one of the groomsmen it just a thing like people like people exactly. I mean it's funny. Because i feel against so many of our circles. It's almost like you take that in good faith is kind of confidence. Like oh okay. Well that's good like we like the same kind of people in the same crowd in a way. Do you know what i mean. Yeah it's like oh you hooked up with him okay. Like he must be. He must be good. Oh you went on a date with him. Like that's fine like tommy normal normal nice guy respect. How is he did the war. It's almost like you. You know you get to have a little bit of more of a perspective. So that was bizarre. Also craig spoke on watch. What happens about how you know. He was with naomi. And natalie together and naomi's boyfriend and he was saying it things. Were very normal. You know it seems. Like i don't know i really liked craig right now meteo. He's doing really well. He wasn't for a little bit and he's doing really well. Also in austin. I think andy's question was who do you think will last longer craig's relationship or shops relationship and he said yeah but it didn't feel that we are to me because he basically was saying like and they all said. There's nothing that could do that. In taylor's is would be viewed as a dealbreaker so they were basically saying like. I don't wanna use the term. Natalie has more of a backbone than taylor. That's not. They really really liked taylor but it was more like chefs going to have an easier time than you crag. Because in taylor's is everything shop douses gold. Yeah like he could get away with murder. Basically right basically saying like your your situation's a little bit more realistic. It would be. It would be so hard for their relationship and it wasn't necessarily a compliment. I would say right. I also have to quickly just say something. Did you see the game where they were playing like. Who would you rather. And basically asking austin which members from housewives or other franchises he would hook up with yes watching him. Have to answer between pat and ramona singer. Or you know cynthia balance heather gay. I was on the floor. It felt like a little kid who had walked into his mom's dinner party. It was so funny when they when they asked about page sorbo from summer house. I forget who she was in comparison to like you know something. It's not the craziest thing that the summer house people could hook up with this other time people. Oh makes complete sense. They should have a night like he had with kristian out on the town. They'd all be such good friends and have so much in common. Also in summer house comes back. Can we please talk about it. Sure i love summer house me too. It's so much about. We can have all of them on totally Okay so anything else. Rewatching happens you get into the things that were mentioned on the episode. No let's get into the episode. I mean the real main plotlines obviously pat eleven. Addison at hats house kind of just talking about katherine and no one's really on her page right. Now they're all just so disappointed. It was a long time coming but this was a final straw and it was a big one. Yeah also catherine austin craig you know sitting down basically catherine explaining to them what happened. It was also in direct contrast with on watch. What happens when. Andy asked if they agree with patricia. Statement that they kind of coddle catherine and craig was like no. I think that we're just good friends jar. You know but you can tell she really find a sense of protection there when she feels like she doesn't have that same relationship with her other friends yet. I don't know if they caudal her as much as they are a little bit separated from the bullshit and almost feel less personally affected so for someone like danny are level or madison who are on the receiving end of catherine being a bad friend. The guys maybe don't feel that as much and so when she says. I really need you guys. I want to bounce some things off you and talk to you. They're like sure. Come on over. There will at least here you out. I don't think they coddle her as much as they just hear her out they give her ideas. They talk things out and she leaves. They're not really doing that much. They're just protective and understand it. Exactly exactly okay. This patricia's dinner thing was cracking me. Up cracking me up. I loved this entire like seen pat with all the boys at her house as if it was like a high school party and she's letting them have beer and saying jump in the pool. You can't go on my sterile house p in the bushes. Pat pat is cool. Pat was coolness episode shoes wearing jeans. She was cracking. The crabs. i love laid back. Pat i- lovely backpack but also her rules here the antithesis of what you think of. Are you think of her as the queen of etiquette and meanwhile she's like and all you just do not in my bathroom exactly corona really has brought out a wild side of people in this was in full throttle action. Yes but before they even get there. When shopping printer in the car pringles telling shapiro. Madison told me that it was done. I told her thighs look great. And we moved on. Speaking about austin in addison's relationship ending their date at the batting cage and chef goes. Judy should just here to drive a nail into the coffin. I forgot but this did come up on. Watch what happens because andy asif austin was not at that line also was like honestly no like i kind of got worship was coming from because that would have been maybe the thing to really end which i thought was actually pretty mature response by asen yet to be like. Instead of all this wishy washy flirting shed like either do it or don't write shit or get off the pot. Yeah yeah i also like. I don't know the better way to say this. Than i have kind of like not love hate because that's too strong but i've gotta love in different aren't love turned off relationship with pringle if that makes sense. My opinion of him changes not even episode episode scene to scene. He's like he's such a different person depending on who he's around and what the social situation is and what he's comfortable with what he's not that i consistently find myself not knowing what i think about him not knowing what i feel about him and not really knowing what he's going to say next exactly it's it's it's i don't feel like i have as good of a grasp on him as i do on some of the others on my god. What is wrong with us. Are we out of touch these days. Everyone is just shocking. Us left and right now i i really don't think we are. I think these are unique circumstances. I mean first of all. He's a new. Not only is he a new cast member. We've known these people for years. He's also a new cast member. That's actively trying to have sex with someone else's girlfriend and arrogant. Tom have been the foundation of housewives relationship. So i don't think we're off. Yeah guesses are curveballs. That when you put it like bad also not only was the first time that awesome pringle. Were seeing each other since all these awkward conversations but he cannot be lost on us that the backdrop of this was patricia house and picture being there which like rat helmet can't really be ignored. We see a lot in terms of awesome would have been more willing to have these kinds of conversations with everyone not just rangel. Patricia wasn't right there. Because like it. If you're defending yourself and talking about your relationship with public enemy number one like this is your biggest kind of hater in front of you and so the last thing you need is number one ever piling on but number two like you don't need to be confronting the guy that you know. This other woman has been pushing for. It was just like none of that needed to happen in front of frustration. Austin's is yeah. They were a group of young guy friends hanging out. It was almost like her mom was sitting right there with the ex boyfriend talking about her with the guy that you want her to be with was too many like paths crossing in conflicting interest. That are just. I get why he felt so uncomfortable. I was just not the time or place. A lot of conversation went on probably way more than he wanted to. But i i got it. it was. She's as close to madison's mom. I think as you get a specially even away more involved in her love life because she is also a really good friend to her. So this patricia is involve in is so heavy in this situation. Right even understand. Austin's kind of like weariness. Oh absolutely and he basically says to pringle you know. There's a guy code like if you want to continue our friendship. Madison is offline is romantically speaking. And pringle saying you know. I was at a line. You check me. A good friend does that. I'm not afraid to say you right. And i was wrong and imprint wrinkles. Confessional has forty-three talking about guy code so fucking stupid. It's like we're not going to date ever again. But she's mine known her was he gonna do really which obviously the narrative here that was not mentioned as like doesn't give a shit what either of them say it's up to madison. She is full control over her life. Remember we're in twenty twenty lashes all remind that lots remember that back to our point again of pringles so different every scene. Not that he's two-faced. But i genuinely believe in his again man all good i get it. And then i genuinely believe in his confessional. He's like what the fuck guy code like such a middle school mentality. so i don't know ever what he's gonna expect or what to expect from him exactly. Also you know at the next scene when steph is basically saying like yeah you guys split and everybody. Nobody in in charleston. Thanks is a good idea that you are together and so awesome like can you not rub salt in the wounds and again like not only in the wound but also in front of patricia and patricia. Then kind of ano- actually it was then. I believe it was kreiger. Shed that says i get it. Were in mixed company. They kind of like understood in that moment. Yeah also when patricia austin have that sit down and she says to him. You're not ready to be a stepfather. Saturday settled down in all of that. I don't see anything changing. Am i not wrong. And she basically missed austin. Yeah i told her to break up with you. I don't believe that love trumps all. So he says it. His confessional has Patricia ever been in love or is it always just about the money. This was such an interesting conversation. I did not expect it to flip on patricia. Because i guess out of all the things that she was saying and what we've heard her say time and time again she really values and believes madison should value ambition and integrity and his job and he's no budweiser. That's her favorite line when she talks about his beer and wanting to put him down because he's not successful or as successful as she believes someone should be with should be and but in this way i saw how awesome could take it as well. You're prioritizing all the accolades in kind of how they look on paper over real love. Which is what we have no matter if our on paper we don't look like a match and turning it on her who's been married a couple of times to say. Have you ever been in. Love do understand that sometimes when you love someone it doesn't matter and you can't. You can't put me down because you think i'm not successful enough when i'm in love with her and would do anything for her exactly i. Can i say how i felt. I kind of something that i kinda felt was patricia wasn't making her point as well. She could have. I got with austin was saying because she was leading with what about the other things. What about the toxicity. That has nothing to do with status. That was where she wasn't hitting enough and if she provided more focused there she would have had more of ethos in terms of her argument and if she had said yes. Love definitely is the biggest part of you have to love each other however there are some things. That just aren't making sense for either of you your times in your life. it's not really just. How much money do you have in the bank account. And that's all he could hear. It might be an insecurity thing. I don't know he also probably wanted to use it as an opportunity to put patricia down in say. Stop giving me relationship advice if this is where you're coming from. She didn't make her point right. You're right instead of saying there's a logistical things that go into a relationship especially when madison has a son. There's way more in the equation than just like you guys are fucking around right exactly and so i mean it was a little bit of the shady comment on austin's part but also i understand why he's fed up me too. Also there's a part of the not. The only thing that they really have is how much they love each other now. That's a bad thing. But he's on one under the spectrum and patricia. Who has been there done. That might have said a word from the wise logistics and reality will set in eventually completely also actually just wanted to make one point which is from a couple of scenes before. I'm sorry to go out of order. But i just remember that. I wanted to say it when craig in austin are sitting down in austin's house and they're talking about the break-up and they're also talking about the issues that chef and taylor her having and as craig's telling austin about the issues you can see austin has a little bit of like a giddy looked him and craig system. You can't root for your friends to have relationship issues. Which i think was a little bit humbling for austin. Because that's kind of what he was doing. I think he was kind of sick of being the only one. That's relationship was constantly being spoken about you know and like see other people fuck up to like take the heat off for second especially from someone who has criticized his relationship to now. Flip the coin. It's like hoc- everyone has their shit. It's not just me. But i like the crud his place like that because you don't want they don't want his relationship to fail. They're not looking for him to be in a toxic relationship. They weren't rooting for him in madison to break up and him go through all this heartbreak. They were just being realistic. Exactly i i really liked. I like i very much enjoy craig. Recently he's just been way more mature. Wait oh my god you know. We didn't talk about on watch happens. Live when they were saying how Taylor to close when they were in the quarantine house with with craig's friend who staying with them we. What did i miss this. Oh my god maybe the after show. Oh my god they said basically they said that so you know. They were quarantined together. It was craig. Natalie taylor at one of craig's friends guy. Friends guy friends who also had cova like they were literally using this as like a covert hostile just for all. The people who had cova didn't in fact whoever they live with and that they felt he felt like taylor is getting way too close with this guy friend and he had to tell shop about it and it was uncomfortable but they obviously made it through. Why how did i miss that. Oh my god. I'm gonna send you the club after all my god. That's so awkward. I know wow. That's very bizarre. I know also goes in direct contrast to. I mean i don't know maybe also remember at that. Time like taylor was so pissed at shop now that that's an estate. I don't know what happened. She's sick with kovic and is so pissed at shop hasn't seen him in two weeks. You know you wanna buddy up. It's like i don't know when you're in a dire situation you misery loves company also What i thought was interesting. I think a couple of weeks ago. I was saying like taylor wasn't justified in getting upset because initially and i said at the time like if there's more story but from what. We were shown she was upset that he basically didn't voluntarily get kobe to quarantine. I'm realizing more now. That's not what she was upset about. She was upset that he basically treated her as if she was some like. You know infected person. He wanted nothing to do with. It was one thing to not see her but then he wasn't even making the emotional effort and that was what was wrong. Yeah i get the feeling grows up by someone. I get it even if it's your girlfriend but to make her feel bad about it at also texting someone is not gonna change. You're not going to get covid from texting her checking in on her sending something dropping things off like we said last week there are so many ways that he could have shown his love and appreciation for her and also that he was thinking about her without saying. I want to get covid. She was fully understanding of that. She was happy to stay at craig's and quarantine but she wasn't appreciative of the way that he went about it and like we said his brain malfunction. He's like oh my god. I don't know what to do now. I only know what to do. When i'm in person and i can't do my usual game and this was also interesting contrast With what they say about. Oh in. taylor's is ship can do no wrong. This must have been really weird and bad enough that it made her upset. Yes yes yes. Yes and other thing. The loss that i wanted to say on this was in that conversation when he comes back to the house and they're talking about you know everything that went down and he basically as outlining toward the conversation with his therapist saying you know i spoke to her about it and i wasn't necessarily wrong in my thoughts that i handled a completely wrong. Whatever that is straight up my porn like washing a man. What just happened in their be outline exactly where he went wrong. Come clean explain how. He understood that she wasn't feeling felt or understood. I was like yes. I am so vicariously living through in this moment and i'm so glad that your boyfriend is going to therapy. It will change things forever. And he's like the therapist was on your side he's really receptive to feedback and what people say which is something i think is why we like him and also what makes him such a good cast member because he really listens to people he doesn't always do it and he's listening to not the sharpest tool shed all the time in making decisions but things like that he's open to seeing both sides. He's not stubborn now. I also don't think chef is stupid like i. I the union. Say a lot of things about him. Trust me i. I recognize a lot of his things are definitely not The best especially for now where we are now but he. I don't think. I don't do not believe that he stupid. He's a little bit at times can have quote dumb behavior. But i think he's an intelligent guy navy not a popular opinion. But i feel that way. I do too i do too. I think he's just not always smart with his like immediate gut decisions. And but i i think he's just a good friend. I love shop. I love is i know. They're like kind of douche bags in the girls are really killing it. This season eleven. Oh you guys know. We absolutely stan. But they have turned it around a little bit austin. I still like annoyed with. But i think craig kind of done a one eighty even since the beginning of the season yeah. I'm a big fan anything else. Other charm related. You want to mention no. I thought it was a good week. I mean an amazing great weeks. Southern charm fan. It's always a great week. I know thank god that we have clarity on The whole christmas thing. I feel good Let me put in a break here. I don't even. I don't know if we're gonna have an ad. I don't know what they're gonna do but we may as well drive. Producer will be happy that we have a spot for it for whatever. And we'll come back and we're gonna get into potomac just a deep breath for everybody. I was about to start by saying like now for the main event. But i actually feel that would be really discrediting the arrogant comments southern charm stuff because yes potomac takes the cake but it's not like we had Below average other topics you know. Yeah you know it's gonna be good when every single story is the story that takes the cake the star of the show exam or heck when you can't pick exactly okay so before we even get into the reunion. I think it is absolutely imperative that we spend a couple of minutes on jamal's livestream. I'm sure some of you saw it. I'm sure some of you didn't are looking for cliff notes. If you feel you know everything fast forward but we just wanna bring you a little bit up to speed. Isabel transcribed a lot of it and we kind of have key points from certain things that he said. I'm this i'm i'm sorry. It doesn't get better than this jamal. Brian after all the discussion of last week with the binder and giselle in the receipts. And we thought we'd seen it all and it was the craziest thing that ever happened. Jamal bryant goes live with his own binder to dispel the rumors and give his side of the story. I'm sorry no instead of even coming to the reunion. He gave his own fucking thirty minute reunion. Yeah he gave us his own when he went on zoom. He did it on instagram. Live and he basically gave in a similar fashion. That i would imagine. He gives his sermons at church to this bravo audience. It was it was really. I have to say now that. I'm a huge jamal brian. It was very well done. It was really well done. His thoughts are really organized. It's clear that he's a great public speaker and it's on his first speech he's ever given. He's comfortable in front of the cameras. So i think that all really helps however you also do remember. This is on his terms. He's sitting there by himself with all his handwritten notes and his thoughts collected on his terms and no one there to kind of challenge. Anything that he says will bring up receipts or things that they've heard. He has the mike and we can't. We can't forget that in all of this. Even though i do think he did a really good job and i kind of ended up being like i kind of believe him. Yes i kind of do too. Which could be speaking to his incredibly advanced manipulation skills which we've heard for years that he has but his his meet in the main takeaway that you need to know from this was that he said you can't bring me receipts if i've got the cash register. That was kind of like he was a housewife. That would have been his slogan. Yeah and he was playing up the binder thing so much like not subtle at all to make make it known that he was poking fun. At monique's binder. Yeah and he started by saying you know number one. He has been delayed in his response because zell asked him not to speak up on it but that he feels at this point when his character is being assassinated steeply. He needs to respond. He also went and said i have for five seasons. Never said anything about potomac for five seasons. Not said a word about in a sermon and a post in a sub tweet in a text. I absolutely fifty six interviews a year in not one have i ever mentioned houses of potomac good bad or ugly and he basically saying he's never been a fan of reality television. He doesn't like the way that women are portrayed. he doesn't like the way that he's been portrayed he want anything to do with it. But now this by making these comments he's basically Basically saying i am forever removing myself from this reality television narrative at all. Yeah i also thought it was interesting that he's saying he had a long history of not liking reality. Tv but in their baby steps to reconciliation and trying to make their relationship or marriage work he had to give a little compromise and agreed to be on it and he said against my better judgment. I wholeheartedly regret participating. And i want you to know that. I will never be on houses of potomac or anything in that franchise ever get yes. He also spoke about monique's claims not really only kind of just the way that his relationship with his children was portrayed and he said you have to keep in mind. This was a year ago by children. And i have gone through strides in for example. He gave the circumstance about when he missed that photo. Shoot which is something that we were all very quick to criticize him for. And i'm not saying. I still believe story but he basically said you know. They made it as if casually skipped that he's like. I was in south africa at the time which was never discussed. He was like. I had a six hour layover in frankfurt frankfurt germany. And i miss the flight. He's like it's very deeply sorry for but he feels like kind of he got bad. Edit for being this absent father when this was the first year in his entire life that he wasn't there to drive his kids to the first day of school. You very vehemently denied that That description of him yeah. He broke his part down after his long. Enjo- of all the reasons why you will never see me on house of potomac again and he. It was a misrepresentation of his character his ministry and his humility and he went and like you said about the kids and we spoke about this briefly earlier but the comments about the scene with giselle father when as you guys probably remember walked off dissolves dad after they were all three of them at dinner together and was saying. I can't do this. He has six or seven baby mamas and was just really upset that giselle was getting back with him and couldn't even look him in the face right right and i actually think that he the way that he went about speaking about his father was. I thought very commendable and exactly what he should have done. He said you know. I will not say a bad word about any said disparaging remarks made by my father in law. Mr curtis grays who's eighty three years of age. I was raised old school that you never disrespect elders. I honor him. he's an amazing man. He has every right to feel protective over his daughter. He and i have not had a heart to heart. Man-to-man conversation about me breaking the heart of his baby girl. You know he basically said like i will not say a bad word about him which i not that. We should be commending. That's how he should have done but a lot of other people would have gone at gone out her father. Yeah i don't wanna praise him. Because i think the bar so on the floor for him but that was one moment i was like okay. You know what he is thinking about his kids any is the about giselle he could have taken this moment to be selfish and say this guy was shit talking me on camera while mike and i was sitting five feet away and probably was he was probably pissed about it but he thought about his daughters he also probably thought about what if this was my daughter. What would i say and the elderly thing of saying. I respect this guy. He is a really amazing person. We've seen him on the show honestly a few times. he's just great. And so i'm happy. Jamal honor that me too. He then also spoke about this alleged mistress and he said yes. I dated a young woman in new york. I've been divorced for eleven years. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't nothing immoral illegal or unethical. It didn't work out. i'm not married. i'm not engaged. You can't mistress while you're single. So i never had a mistress. She's never been to visit me in atlanta. Never been in my home if we're gonna show text messages. Let's show all the text messages and he repeatedly said that he then accused this woman of sending all of these text messages to all these different blogs to bravo and he said you know everybody dismissed it because it had no merit so then you took upon yourself you took it upon yourself to send it to all the different cast members. He was like the only one you didn't send it to his l. And the only one. That bit was monique so he basically said you know. This was something that anybody else could've taken ran with. Monique was the only one because she was bitter about the rumors being spread about her by gee-gee not by zell. And that's what jamal was trying to clarify. Like you think the giselle was the one that was shading your marriage saying all these crazy things about the trainer and the baby. It wasn't gisela newsflash. It was your friend. G g and your anger is misdirected is what he was saying yet like. You are going way too hard before you really even did the work to find the source of the big problems that you're having yet did zell do her shady thing and kind of bring it up and say a little. Something in the confessional. Maybe yes but to her credit. I guess she wasn't the one working overtime to make sure that this made the show and they get into that in the reunion. Obviously we're gonna talk about that. In a little. But that monique went so above and beyond to get back giselle for something that she didn't even fully do right and this is kind of when he brings. Chris samuels into the conversation and he says quote it was misdirected rage. Because you live in a house of the man who has anger management who doesn't mind expressing volatile behavior and everything that i'm saying tonight is not conjecture itself defense. He then speaks about how you know. Next week you'll see on the reunion that chris tries to attack zell. He's you'll see security get involved and he talks about how chris in his words has ct which is basically progressive degenerative disease of the brain that a lot of football players have based on the trauma and he says you know people have reached out to me on his half. You're living with a man with serious anger issues. I'm urging him to get some help kind of taking it from the. I felt the way that he was approaching. This was like. I'm doing this. Because i care you know yeah in like a bullshit way exactly like a total bullshit way right like i'm not meaning to call you out but i care about you and i want to see the best i've given you my phone number and i want you to get help for the best of your family. Which is the most fucking manipulative shut. You can paul. And that's when i was like so. This is the jamal we've been hearing about right exactly and i don listen. I don't know what's there to be said about chris. But like you can't totally right something off. Just 'cause we don't necessarily like jamaal he could be right. Who knows. yeah everyone can be right never and can be wrong. I don't believe anything anymore. I know that's that's kind of. I mean we'll get into this and you know when we talk about this actual reunion but like they're still not that much clarity in terms of if monique's upset towards diesel is a hundred percent warranted or any of it is misdirected. My personal feeling is that overall. I know the actual rumors about questioning the paternity of her son and all that is really terrible. But i think this has gone to extreme level where these are just rumors with as. Monique says no base. So there's nothing to be afraid of if they aren't true and she has taken this to a level that it's almost like the streisand effect where she just keeps bringing more and more attention to it and it may have been something like they we get into the reunion. it wasn't even brought into the show except for monique. Giselle made one petty comment about it. And if it hadn't come up again no one would have given a shit. This happens in house all the time. It's just the way of the world there's cheating rumors of paternity rumors should happens. And if it's not true you let it settle. And you don't have to 'cause this ruckus this absolute circus that has gone on just because of my friend who's not even part of the show started these stupid rumours. That if she says aren't true aren't true and she didn't let them just similar out. Know and i agree with you but it's kind of like i don't know i feel like a lot of people are very against any great now which i understand. I do happen to have a sense of a sauce for her. Not in regards to the canvas thing like that was clearly very wrong. And we'll get into this. But i do feel like she was because i i absolutely agree that that's the way it should have been handled but i also feel like she was already operating at a disadvantage because the point that she was trying to make an argument that she was trying to fight. She didn't have the public. Or the women or andy for that matters on her side because it happened kind of in in silence in the dark so she has all this upset that she can't even really prove so. Like you know what i mean. It was almost like they weren't on level playing fields in a way. Yeah i agree with that. But it to andy's point which will talk about in one minute. She caused all this anxiety like she was going to sleep every night. Thinking like the store is gonna come out. I have to do everything in my power to reverse it and make sure this doesn't happen in everyone's talking about me almost an paranoia way. That was like yeah. Everyone's talking about it but like we're not bringing it to the show and it's not true seemingly and the earrings id levels are way high giving cherise way too much credit in getting so upset about coming face to face cherise for speaking with your friend about these rumors. She has built this mountain out of a molehill. But out of something that maybe would have just gone away. I have to say this and please do not misinterpret this with me saying that. I believe the rumors. Like if monique says it didn't happen. I'm going to believe that it didn't happen. However if you are already skeptic this is giving you all the more reason to believe the rumors. Because the way that she's handling it some could argue is the way that a guilty person would handle it on the flip side of that is no. She's just being defensive because somebody's attacking her character and her marriage and that's not true. Of course she's gonna come out fighting totally warranted. I'm just saying if you are already a skeptic a skeptic. I don't think she's necessarily making her case any stronger and i also think the added element of her child being brought into it as a mother. I mean obviously you. And i can't speak to but that must trigger something in you to say i'm gonna fight for what's right. These rumors need to die. And i don't want people writing and speaking about me let alone my kid. Yes i agree with that. I agree like i under- i understand it. I totally get it. I'm just saying it definitely. None of this has been handled in a way that makes anybody's case the strongest. Yeah if it's not true just let it go away. That's my point. I mean i get easier said than done but she is working pretty hard for someone who is saying that everything is false right okay so in terms of things from the actual reunion and remember like we said last week we're not gonna recap but we just have to mention things. In order to frame the conversation you know she response to all of this stuff by speaking about the current state of jamal's relationship and she says like we've been transparent we have communication issues that are because of me she's like. The show is put a magnifying glass in it absolutely. But we've been through bigger storms. That was kind of her response to all of this saying were fine. Yeah also shifting a little bit of the blame on her saying i have communication issues. That's my fault. I think she might feel a little guilty and also wants to show. Hey i'm not perfect. Either worship talking jamal until we're blue in the face but you have to realize this is a two way street in some capacity right and candidates then says he should have just come if the affair turns out to be true. The thirst book. What will you do and just like you know what we're gonna cross that book we get to it. She was just stoic. During this whole thing will. Wendy says she says i feel your com. You're calm and not how you feel inside and giselle says i appreciate that. I think you're coming from a good place. And she says the older. I get the less it bothers me. And he says you know he'd have a lot to lose coming on the show if he really was dating a lot of other women which again. It's not getting to the core of the issue that karen. Monique were hinting out of like. Is this even real. Because let's say let's entertain for one second. What they're saying is true and this entire thing was a farce for the show. Then isn't higher thing just gets a little bit more uncomfortable. You know yeah. It was a good point for andy to make. Because i think he was saying in malls is why would he agree to this. If he really was going around it would only make him look worse than maybe would turn off women dating or sleeping with him. But i think that that also underestimates how manipulative they are as a couple and how he cares about his image and also about his kids and i don't know there's a million ways that this could have gone down but it was a really interesting point of andy and i think giselle was probably grateful that andy made that point because it was kind of like yeah. Why would he do that. Yeah i agree. Okay wanna move onto michael darby. Would you like to read what. I made the topic than i was about to say the header for this is michael motherfucking darby. Yeah because i were. If i didn't write it that so we would say i felt so seen when andy looked at ashley and said quote i root for you and i feel for you and you're sitting here and you're pregnant and i hate to have to talk about this to you again and i feel like year after you have to defend your marriage and defend your husband. That is exactly what we have been saying. She has constantly in a place of defending and having to almost take responsibility. Or take the blame for this idiots actions. And andy wasn't just saying it he really felt it and it felt so parallel to exactly our sentiments drought this entire season. Talking about ashley and michael of we root for you and we really like you and now you're pregnant again and we feel bad for you and we see that you are such a great person in could do better and this fucking sucks that every corner you turn you are faced with another problem from your husband right and she really responded and said you know. I'm not defending him. I'm just answering questions. Which i get it like. I understand. you are now pregnant with baby number two. You're so deep in and sometimes it's a little easier to not really confront how When he used the word seemingly idiotic some of the decisions have seemed. You know what i mean like. It's easier to kinda turned a blind eye and go full in. But it's very frustrating to watch. It gets worse every year and the fact that he wasn't at this reunion. I thought we would get some answers from him. He usually brings a lot to union. So what you want him at those. Reunions is a fucking sight to see because he is so involved in the plot in has so many crazy storylines some kind of annoyed these not there. But ashley Did a nice job of answering the questions as good as she. I will say like you as much as we talked about michael darby. He's obviously makes great television. And i i never expected of course. Jamal was going to be there. But i expected that one and michael. We're going to be there. Call me crazy. One is so hesitant to go. I don't think. I think he's been on one or two reunions. Just not into it like really confrontational. I don't think that's his style and michael. The wedding thing who the fuck knows. I honestly think michael was probably upset. He like loves the star. The spotlight in stardom but another thing about my goal. He is the epitome of our entire theory of liking someone versus liking them as a tv character. He's fucking amazing. I could watch twenty hours of him but he is the most discussing human being. And that's just the something we're going to have to live with right. It's kind of like you know it's not not a fair comparison. This is really is very mean to ramona to say this you. I'm not saying she's michael darby level at all but i think a lot of us can say ramona isn't necessarily the best person we've ever encountered and we disagree with a lot of the things. She does fundamentally but we love watching her on television. Yeah then there's also people who loves people we'd have such a great time with them in a dinner but maybe they weren't the best housewives Just you can't always have both exactly but anyway you know. Andy's s to her that she really didn't seem that shocked when candidates confronted her with the text about michael the strip club and she says the reason that i'm so understanding about it is because i've had my own indiscretions in the past. I haven't always been the best way to my husband while i was separated hats and fun. He forgave me. We move forward. And that's how. I can move forward with him. Which not taking a page out of cells book in terms of taking some of the blame because a little bit different but that has been the story that she stalked you since the very beginning saying it would be hypocritical of me to come down so hard on him. When i feel. I've done similar things. You took the words right out of my mouth. It was the same thing of well. I'm not perfect to. That's really not what you're seeing. And i only can think she is not either. She's blind to how unequal both things are or she really believes or she doesn't believe that she wants. She does is using that as a point to make her point and to make him look better and kind of take the heat off of her and of him. I don't know which is better or which is worse. But it's like okay. Yeah ashley you maybe had one or two indiscretions but it was a different time. You handle the differently. You aren't i don't know it's like we. We see that those are equal things. Yeah it's kind of like it. That would be a really easy argument to make if the public didn't have such an in depth. Look into your marriage. And can i tell you that i feel honestly about this and i don't know if any of you guys feel the same. We are if you do as well but like it's very weird. Because i know that. Ashley really does defend michael in her marriage. But there's a part of me that feels like she's removed from it like there's a part of me that feels like she really just doesn't give a shit. I don't know how to explain that. I know that's in direct contrast how hard she kind of fights for it. But it's like. I don't know i don't get that same level of emotion to me. It's almost like she. Views it as a game i think to. She feels some societal pressure either from society from tv from the other women on the cast whatever social media to. Oh my god. Your husband's cheating on you. Aren't you so upset or gonna break up with him and her natural instinct are not they. Don't go in that way. I think if it was up to her she's somewhat okay with him cheating. She sees that he's trying and she just has a different perspective on relationships. Monogamy i think than other people do kind of this pressure to answer in a certain way and defend him and show that she spoke said in that you know if he did this again. I one hundred percent leave him but she really feel that way and like that's okay. She shouldn't have to conform to what everyone else thinks is the standard of marriage and relationships. It's fucked up yes. I don't want her to be hurt if she is really hurt but she shouldn't have to put on a front of how much it's affecting her what she really cares about. It's so true it's so true. It's almost like what i want to say to her. Is if you don't want to fit into this traditional bubble in terms of marriage. That's totally fine. Like do your thing. The world is changing at. You know who knows what the rules are even more. That's not my biggest issue. Like the way that i feel is that's one thing but you have to separate that from like his general respect. I mean one. I feel like you and me and i'm me so many of you. Listening are like forget about the cheating we just can ever be with the person that speaks to other human beings like that like his lack of respect for not only women but also just. Anyone is very alarming but to me. It's like he just gross person is not even so much only about the cheating but maybe she doesn't see it that way. Maybe she is it like a business arrangement. We don't know what's going on in ashley's head but it's a lot more in my opinion complex than just i don't i don't i don't care about the cheating you know i For her sake. I wish it was as simple as all she needs to do. Is admit there in an open marriage or that she wants an open marriage and everything would be solved because then he's still the father of their kids. He still is going around sexually assaulting people he still talking down to women so grabbing cameron's asses in denying it and being so just rude all around and that's the father of kids in that's who she is in a marriage no matter what the marriage looks like. So you're right. I almost wish it was just as simple as he's a cheater right exactly and it's just not i mean andy straight obsess about the open. Marriage were not opened in that we have other partners. My husband is only attracted to women but if we're together and both attracted to someone then basically saying they're down for three. Some of the moment lends itself. Which like congratulations. You and half the world you know what i mean like that to me. I don't i don't judge who gives us. You do whatever you want. It's that's like so the littlest issue here. Yeah and that. Also i think to those women's is sounds like an answer for an open marriage but like to us. I guess maybe 'cause we're young and very progressive one is nothing to do with the other. Oh god not at all. I mean i know not at all even in my own life. Like there's a very big difference between wanting to spice things up in the moment with someone you know versus like saying when we're on our own you do what you want. Yeah like that. It wasn't a a neither nor kind of thing right but also you know we have to talk about the situation with the woman because they bring up that entire situation and they're saying you know andy says despite going to tell they only kissed and she sang yeah. The woman didn't want anything physical He kind of took the bait and candidates like they had sex. And it's unbelievable to watch ashley darby to me. She knows that that's not the truth to me. She's i mean ashley say what you want. I do believe very intelligent woman. And she kinda gets it and it's frustrating to watch her defend the actions of someone. We're i don't even think she believes the words that come out of his mouth ashley as always prove that. She's really aware of her surroundings. And how people may react to things in what really is going on and hearing her recite the things that michael told her to be true and how the time of the night went on was like it was almost like a robot. She was just regurgitating. The things that he said were true and she wants us extorting him for money they didn't have sacks and he passed out he took the bait etc etc and the woman knew who he was It was it was like annoying. Honestly i was doing. I wish it she. I don't think she could. But i wish she could have given her actual opinion to sense of what she thought happened. I agree and he says you know like. Aren't you worried that something like this will happen again. She says i'd be lying. If i said i wasn't worried a little bit. He's trying. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until he proves me wrong. Karen says you have to think about. I support her decision to try to keep your marriage and family together and someone asks what about Gemologist l. and she said i just want the truth. There's so many allegations and there's angle you root for her family. He says i just wanted to be a real family thousand. Low huge moment huge moment. No it was just shady and it was. Andy was kind of flipping the mirror on karen to say okay. So you're saying you wanna root for ashley's family. You are okay with all the shit that michael has done but you want them to work it out because she can't you care about her kids she has a son she's another on the way. So does that logic not apply to zell in this situation. It's you know in really really broad terms. It's almost the same thing a husband who has fucked up in the past. They have three kids together. Why what is the difference in standard and karen is basically saying. Because i don't fucking believe. Zhao has a real family or that they care about each other. I wanna make it work. I think it's a facade toe. I mean that's where karen's by is kinda shows her bias but also we weren't even in that conversation anymore so i think that really proved to be. She does believe that that whole thing was fake and that he was really just on the show to be a line now. She fully believes that. That's that's the story that she's sticking with. Yep for sure you wanna talk about the old clip resurfacing. Yes i love when things that we spoken about in real time like when they come out on social media come up on reunion. Even though this was a couple months ago a twitter user found they were rewatching season one of potomac and it has just been sitting on hulu this whole time in the background of i think karen and rier walking industries his birthday party. You see michael sneak up behind a camera man and squeezes but like pure as clear as you can and obviously you guys know last season. A huge plot and a huge discussion at the reunion was about michael being charged with sexual assault on a cameraman. Monique muni chris. Samuels house and whether he do it why he would do it. The there was audio of the incident and he denied it until the end of time and the most satisfying thing in this part of the union was first of all robin. They cut to the clip of robin at the last reunion in bringing up this point. And everyone's saying there's no proof that never happened will really michael nationally saying that and second to say if he squeezed andrews ass that same party and he squeezed this cameraman both of which we have on film. Why would those be true. And this other incident of the man who filed not be true. Do you see how that doesn't make any sense. That is what is i. Don't know if this but to me quite literally infuriating. It's like ashley i understand. You have to defend your husband but at a certain level. Don't you have some sort of like not even a moral compass take that out like. Don't you have some sort of commitment to logic because you seem to be a very logical person. Clearly clearly this is bullshit. And i wanted to feel more of a sense of indication of allegation and i could it because she wasn't even entertaining it. That's what's frustrating. She's not a delusional person. And this is common sense. This is a. plus b. equals c. If let's say a completely different thing let's say someone came to her and said oh my god. Monique got in a physical altercation with someone else she would say. I believe it. Because i i know the past behaviors. I was there for it. Why would this time second time not be true anytime something like that happens. This now has happened twice. And michael wants us all to believe that that some crazy made up rumor. It's it's ridiculous so watching her. Go from being so long in all other situations to having this complete cloud of an allusion in front of her when it comes to the michael stuff is really concerning. Because i also think half of it. She convinces herself to believe it half of it. She doesn't actually believe but she really rider dies for michael. Yeah i think she kind of just like decides what is going to turn a blind eye to close her eyes to in order to stay in this marriage for whatever arrangement they have. It's fucking weird. Something's weird but it's it's almost like we feel like that's less of a battle to fight because even even ashley on some level knows michael's scumbag she just signed with it. Yeah and also a whole defensive. Well he wouldn't do that to anyone that he's not that close with. They had a very flirty relationship. He called him zadie so it was okay for him to do it. And andy's like well. We talked him and he said it was not consensual and he was kind of embarrassed about it or mortified and her firm whole argument to be he only does it with people that he has that kind of rapport with but he didn't have that with the cameraman that press charges against him so he wouldn't have done that is i mean. Come on i also just have to say. I don't really think that it can be ignored. The fact that they're seriously a bias here in terms of the fact that this happened with a man as opposed to with a woman because we always have to believe victims regardless of the gender. And i really think that ashley. And i guess primarily ashley is quick to dismiss this because it was a guy in her is this is more like of a casual thing. And that's really not fair doesn't matter the gender you know. That was why i was happy. Andy said well when we asked him like he was pretty mortified about it and it wasn't consensual instead of just rushing it off as like. Oh it's fine. Whatever like you know. We're just guys fucking around to show like doesn't matter who the person is they have feelings. They feel violated. You're still touching somebody in a way that they are not down with and like you can't just assume because you have some kind of rapport and some kind of relationship that it's okay or that it would be. Okay exactly exactly okay. Do you wanna do. Karen and ray or do you want to move to kennison monique. Yeah let's just touch on. Karen ray i mean. There wasn't anything groundbreaking here. It actually turned into more of a discussion of how they're happy that the real karen is coming out more and more on the show when over time. It's been such a facade of karen. It's been the fate karen she puts on this whole grahn dumb act and that in real life. She's really fun. She opens up in that the drinking on this season mixed with the passing of both of her parents and returning to her hometown. And all of the really vulnerable. Sasha's going through that kind of cocktail of things going on have unpeeled karen in a way that they all the women were hoping would happen. Yes exactly they asked. It was funny and he was like so. Do you have a disdain for raised issues. Like i do. Not and that's disgusting to me. I know they cut to the commercial for that too. It was like andy dramatically saying. Do you have a disdain for raise. Dick don don don was amazing. I wanted to just quickly speak touch on this because we spoke about it at length when it happened that time when they invited over the marriage counselor and he said that he doesn't know if he's in love with her and giselle said him saying you didn't love you. I felt like you had you heard that before. That was not new for you. You are embarrassed therefore you were crying. I don't wanna see karen. And ray break up. But i'm happy she. He was putting it out. There said they can do something about it and karen very matter of factly sister. I wasn't embarrassed. I was heartbroken. I was hurt. And i was heartbroken. And i bring that up. Because i remember when it happened one you and i definitely felt like it was the first time she was hearing it but i felt like both virtue i felt like she was hurt and also embarrassed so i didn't think that i wasn't agreeing with his l. Here like i definitely do not think that karen had heard that before. I think if she knew he was going to say as she maybe would not have done it publicly. Yeah she's not giving enough credit. She wouldn't if she knew that right had these deep feelings of things that would not reflect positively on her. She wouldn't open that up for the camera. that's just not her personality no matter how much we think she's evolved in whatever way but also i think she may be knew that something like this was coming. There's a there's a truth in the middle of this. She wasn't absolutely shocked when she heard it but it was the first time that she had heard that specific sentiment. You know what. I mean like it wasn't it wasn't groundbreaking. She knew they were in a bad place clearly. But that one sentence of saying. I don't know if i'm in love with you anymore. Really was a dagger to the heart and with all the cameras around like we said. That's not easy. And not is an andy hussein to count by the way that would be a natural emotion. Like you shouldn't be embarrassed if you were embarrassed like that's okay. I think all of us here would admit that if this had happened to us we would feel embarrassed on top of the heartbreak and disappointment. And whatever else. She was feeling exactly. I almost felt like karen. Was associating embarrassment. Superficiality like not caring about the core of the issue. Just being embarrassed at the way it looked on him. I wanted to say to her was like they're not mutually exclusive. Yeah because you could feel embarrassed about where. She went wrong that she's let it get this far. There's so many things. I i felt embarrassed for her. So i wish you'd just admitted that me to Okay let's get into mony candice. Let's get into moaning in kansas. Where would you like to start it off okay. Before we started having it in my notes that you wanted to make a disclaimer before the section yes amazing thank you just want to say. And i'm sure that we're going to talk about this at length. I just wanna get this out. Initially there's a really big difference between not liking the way monique was made out to be unemotional and then also thinking kansas deserved and apology because as we talked about and i'm sure we'll get into like i didn't like this kind of attack on monique that her not having emotion was character fly. Think handle things differently but also when candace. Was there crying clearly so upset. I think she should have been able to say like. I'm sorry so. I know we'll get into it. I just want to make that point before even start. Oh one hundred percent agree yes anyway. Let's get back to it so they start off with the trainer. Rumor and andy says tony you revealed on watch what happens live. The trainer. rumor was one piece of a plot carried into the show by giselle. The full rumor that not only. Did you have an affair with your trainer but you got pregnant and that baby wasn't chris so monique says yes. This is a two year deal. With an ex friend of mine. Gee-gee she started going around to different castes. Trying to spread these lies about me to try to get it on the show. Now the way. The cherise ties into this g. G got therese's number cherise was the into getting this information to different cast members. So she sent across screenshot of these things to ashley. Candice in a few others. I was alerted by karen. There was some dinner that happened after andy's shower in la and there was this whole plot about wanting to bring the story onto the show. Karen then says giselle wanted to come out kansas. You call me in. you're upset. You did say that they were discussing this. They're coming after the paternity of monique speedy. And he says you're talking about this. Papa where did it air on the real housewives of potomac and monique says giselle went and her confessional. About word on the street is that she's running around with the trainer and chase the baby. They didn't show that part they didn't bring it up on the show and monique says that's what you wanna say. It's fine this frustrating. In so many different ways we broke down this entire thing a couple of months ago in an episode called all things potomac and there was a subplot going on this entire season and a lot of things that fueled monique and all them to do things the way that they did without speaking about it and this was the overall thing that this gee-gee character was spreading rumors about monique and cherise to giselle was kind of the path to get it on the show. Now what was really crazy here was like i said monique was working so hard to knock at this plot on and i think if giselle really wanted to get it on or any of the other women really wanted to get it on weei what a fucking seen design one comment and who knows what else there is. I think monique would have said if there was more footage but to only site that one particular confessional giselle as the way to bring it into the show and then we literally never heard about it again if you only watch. The show never turned on twitter instagram. Listen to this podcast. You would have never even thought about it again. Probably or known about it until the reunion. She's just bringing it up again and again. And andy's point is you were doing all of this and seeking revenge and hate towards these women and trying to go after your friends. Whatever because they wanted to bring this plot and they did it. Okay can i. Can i just play the flip side for a second. I have a question. I agree with you. I have a question though. Yeah one one did. Monique necessarily know that they weren't talking about it. How does she know what's going on and confessionals while they're filming until after the show comes out and two if she was really upset about this behind the scenes don't doesn't she have the right to be upset about it even if it didn't take place on the show. Yo absolutely by the way she definitely has the right to be upset about it overall but her main point here was there trying to bring it on the show. Jiji's main goal was to bring it to the show and send it to all the cast members and there was some. She was so upset about this dinner that the women had an l. a. after andy's baby shower where this was like the plotting planning meeting and they were like yeah we spoke about. It just feels like we talked about it. We kinda laughed about it. We gossiped nothing out of the ordinary. And it almost died there. And when i was when it was relevant i pulled it out and use it as a piece in my confessional. That was it. You have to remember to this reunion. After the whole season has aired so for her to still be anxious and upset and worried in a way about this plot becoming applaud on the show when it already hasn't and no one brought it up in any other capacity. Maybe they were talking about her off the show but it seems to me like they all had the kind of courtesy of not bringing it to the show and if they had tried to it would have made the air. There's no way they would have kept something like that. If it was being discussed that much on camera and ended up being a huge plot. Line that we never even saw. They wouldn't keep that footage from us after everything we've seen the season. There's just no way. Yes it's not like the producers. Have this plot to make mo nico crazy to make her look like. She's citing this thing. That never happen like that. That's where that is where monique's argument kinda fell flat in terms of the passion from the other people meeting the viewers that in that regard. Because it's not that you don't want to believe her but it's hard when she's fighting a battle that we never even witnessed. It's almost like her. Argument was expired. I get when you're upset about that while we were filming or after andy baby shower when you knew that this plot was happening. Of course that's upsetting. That would be so heartbreaking and disappointing for her to hear that her friends want do take her down in this plot and said rumors about her kid but then for to never really happened and them to not do what you were expecting or assuming that they would stoop to that level to do. It's at a certain point. You have to say okay. It didn't happen. You know what. I kind of win. I know there's there's a lot here. Let's move onto the fight. Because i have so many thoughts on all of that actually are. Let's move on. So obviously you know they give the whole background about their friendship etc but when they're talking about the actual fight a lot of what we discuss here and what we get into our really logistics because that was that was kind of what they were fighting about in this very moment and it's really interesting to see the way that footage plays into it because they want are talking about the hand that pushed monique shoulder. And this is when people were alleging that you know giselle was getting involved and giselle was trying to escalate things where i one hundred percent. You believed l. She was doing the natural reaction to separate people so her hand went to. Monique not to incite monique to hit candidates but just to kind of separate them like i get it. I know money is a great a instigator. I truly believe zero. Part of her was inciting violence. Hear me too. I do too but i also think in this whole conversation. Get into one second. Everyone's version of the truth in what they felt and saw can be true from two different points of view so monique fell to push her. In this moment. That happened so quick to us. It feels like it was so slow in slow motion calculated whereas in real life it went down in a matter of milliseconds what she feels to be true and how she was feeling in the moment from her perspective versus what giselle was doing what her intention was can both be the same thing and just have just come from different places exactly and so andy says you know you said you blocked out. What was your emotional reaction. Once he saw the raw raw footage she says. I was more trying to figure out what happened. In this moment that caused me to react this way. It was just like she must have done something to make me snap. And andy says. Was it your impression. Then that she physically attacked you when he says no. No no. I said from the beginning that i was triggered. It was when she did this under my chin. She reached across her hand. Gotten my face and everybody chimes in including andy saying that never happened. Her hand was never in your face. We looked at the footage and casino. Yes it did they. That's exactly what happened and not on the show but to us. They play a clip in slow mo where you see kansas saying good night in her hand she did not hit. Monique nothing like that but her hand did go in. Monique space again. Nobody's saying that's the reason that monique had to hit her. But that one little claim that he was making was true and what erupted on social media after the reunion aired was people being really frustrated by with andy with bravo and with the other women. This is just the public opinion for saying. Say what you want about. Monique what she did was one hundred percent wrong yet. That one little element candice. His hand wasn't her face did happen. And why is it that. They're only showing that footage after. Why didn't they do like a slow mo rewind in the moment it really felt like monique was have her back against the wall. Kind of yeah. They were gas lighting here in a way that to make her feel crazy. Which i think wasn't fair and she wasn't taking it. Another thing was back to my point that i made a minute ago. We've seen this footage. I've probably seen this fight a thousand times right by now and that would not be something from our view or how it goes down that i would think oh. She was getting in her face. But from where. Monique was standing in the moment how she took it like every time. You watch a did something different than you can look at it from so many different angles that this was an instance of. Oh yeah. i didn't really notice that. And clearly and eating other women had to and hadn't thought it was worthy or not worthy enough of being added to the timeline of the fight. You know like when we do those slow when they do those slow mo replays of who did what and who was in each other's faces. I that was never really taken into account exactly and i. I feel like it's important to make this point clear of we wouldn't you and i and the rest of the audience would not be even having this discussion about these tiny little logistics because bottom line is. Monique was in the wrong. We can not like candice all we want but we did was wrong but they are fighting about this. It's not even like it's not like the other women are saying it doesn't matter that didn't happen. Who knows what happened. There's no excuse. They are literally saying that did not happen. So you have to get into the nitty gritty. Because that's what they're talking about like insane this. You're not defending monique. But you're just talking about the actual instances of their arguing about. This isn't a moot point because it's being discussed right like yes. She did put her hand interface. It's still not grounds to do what you did. However you are saying something that's not completely inaccurate. I wanna go back also for one. Second to monique's reaction about the footage. She got into it a little bit again in how. It's just part of her personality. But i could have analyzed this forever when her immediate reaction and answering. The question was focused on herself in why she reacted the way she did. Not the overall fight what happened on the emotion behind it. It was immediate. i need to study. What exactly happened. And what in. My brain triggered me to do this. Yes yes and also one that was interesting insight into the way that she processed and thinks about things but also like that was the point that was greater than just about how she view the footage. That was the point that was happening as we were speaking. Because andy was saying you know you seem not that emotional about this. And i have to say you. People may disagree with us. A new as well may disagree with us. That the way that i felt about it was. It's not fair. just like how this how i felt. Just how we don't judge people for maybe getting emotional at times when it doesn't feel warranted you also can't judge somebody. Knock getting emotional. We all react to things differently. Candace has every right to be emotional and crying that's the way that she processes things. Maybe that's not moat week. The way that monique processes things. So i think any other argument people wanna make. This can be correct. But i don't necessarily think that it's fair to use monique's seemingly lack of emotion as a way to defend kansas. Those aren't the two are not the same. We are all allowed to handle things differently. I didn't. I don't know if i necessarily liked to that point. I didn't like that point either. I think it was also in the just. The contrast of how emotional candice's about it versus monique is on the other end of the spectrum. But i have to say it's not just coming from people who don't know. Monique this is coming from a group of people who've been around for a long time so it's not necessarily that her lack of reaction and the way that she's going about it is wrong. I think they were more like this is uncharacteristic you are usually like an emotional warm person. You're really like playful mom who gets into things so this just seems not how we all would expect you to react or we would think you would have more emotion behind missing. It would have affected a more emotional way instead of being so text book. Okay here's what happened. Here's what i did. Let study my brain about this. And i don't give a fuck about canvas. Yeah yeah. I don't know. I mean although i believe in on chat room porsche. Said she wasn't surprised. Yeah that is true. I don't know who knows if if that's true. Also and if she or she just defending her friend. But like there's there's more reasons than that but you're right you can't. You can't shame someone for not reacting in the way that you think is appropriate because everyone has different ways of going about things in this just might be how she's coping might be her defense mechanism over. Might just be really like who she is in this. Is it right. Like that's what i'm saying. It's kind of. I don't mean to bring this up but i bring it up because i think that is relevant it a little bit also like the gender thing because how many times are women's shamed and taken less seriously forgetting quote more emotional for crying so then when a woman doesn't react like that now we view it as inauthentic. That's not fair would you. Would you judge a man for reacting in this way. Yeah it's like the same people who also would say to kansas. Stop crying your being such a cry baby. You're so dramatic. Monique is just the opposite under that spectrum. It's like it's all right to say either one right. Why can't a woman or any person for that matter handle their there even if we even if you fundamentally disagree with every single thing about monique just because this is the way that she's handling i don't think makes her. I don't think that's a fair point. That's all. I have to say kind of negating everything we just said like. It was uncomfortable to watch. Truly i think even if you may be don't feel the emotion she could have given like one single drop of empathy just candidates. They're really upset. I know monique is so fucking annoyed by that. And she doesn't really want to even hear candice's side of the story and deal with this anymore but it was like it was hard to wash out that she Maybe she shouldn't have done anything but it was uncomfortable. It was very uncomfortable. Oh my god i mean. That's the part that i feel like gets a little bit Sometimes under like sometimes dismissed because the way the can handle things as people feel less bad for her she was that was a traumatic experience. Like i don't think using the word. Traumatic is at all dramatic. That was the new. Not orga nobody. I mean that was so unfair. Like i can't imagine the frustration that would come from. You're looking face to face with a woman who literally assaulted. You bashed your head into a table repeatedly and then not only is showing. No remorse cannot even look in the is at the reunion and apologize. I get it like that's fucked up and candidates every right to react the way that she doesn't as a viewer a heated that i guess because you and i are just so so so empathetic like our own bias comes into it and that's obviously why we're uncomfortable is just kept being like muni. Say something like just say something. You're not even addressing it. You're not even saying one single word. You won't even look her in the i. I don't know that's just my. That's why i felt uncomfortable. It's because like what i would do. Not necessarily that. She's right or wrong. But it's like i wanted to get out of that cringing feeling so badly that i just was Pushing on her. What i wish i would have done. Projecting i know just wish she could have said like look to kennison said. I'm really sorry for the hurt that i caused you. I disagree with pretty much everything about you. I want nothing to do with you. Buy it. I hear you and i see you in this moment like canisius needed to feel seen. And that's what she needs in order to kind of maybe one of the things she needs in order to move on. But we should actually talk about that more. Because i really felt like what they were. Talking about here wasn't so much the actual fight like yes. She was clearly traumatized from the physical action of it but the underlying thing that was happening was kansas was so upset that monique allowed. This rumor mill to go on for a year straight. Never cleared it up and i think in this moment that was also what was impacting more than the actual fight. Yeah was the aftermath about monique. Was perpetrating a rumor and kind of letting the rumor happen. That canvas is the one who initiated the fight. She threw a wine glass in her face. And for months in a whole year almost social media believed her and the blogs believed her and she would candace was saying was. How can you go to sleep at night knowing this false rumors out there when moni even at the reunion one thing she'll say i'm the one who started it but she oh there's always a but and candace was so upset that yeah the one night happened but now i've had deliberated for a year and on top of it. I'm getting slammed for starting it which is not the truth i know and then in monique's is it's like she couldn't. She couldn't fully say that because now she the lawsuits so of course you had to go lean into the story more you know. Yeah like it's messy. It's this whole thing is so messy by now. I like loved this for so long but at this point i just feel really bad and i want all of them to just wash their hands of this whole thing in be moved on after this reunion. I hope that there are some kind of closure even just to move past it. If nothing else happens. I i completely agree. It was it was at the end. It was really painful to watch like we wanted this to be over. Yeah it's like enough at this point in their never. There was a point where i wanted to see more because i thought maybe there would be some resolution but it's clear now that they will absolutely never see eye to eye though never agree about what happened with this fight and what caused it. And all the emotions that went into it in months and months and years of frustration mounting. They'll never see. I will never ever get that. And i think we just have to agree to disagree at this point. Give let me ask you something. What's the future of this show. Like khanate both actually forget about them. But can monique be a cast member on the show ever again. Because if so we've never had a cast where the entire rest of the people basically refused to film with this one person. i mean. this isn't like a little bit of a dramatic thing. This is like somebody sit. Feels literally that. Their safety is at risk and being someone else's presence like how do they move forward in forgetting about a friendship perspective because that's long gone. How did they move forward in a casting perspective. I think monica's done for sure. I think not only because of the fight because of the way the women don't want to be around her or no one really likes her. Except for ashley and karen and who knows how long that would even last. But i also think it's not a one way street here. I think monique is over it. She put her through the wringer this year. She had rumors start about. Her family has turned her world upside down nebraska to play i. Don't she really thought she would wanna be. And it seems her Aura this reunion after the fight was fuck it. Fuck the show. I'm gonna do what i want. That's what she said at the fight like you know. If i'm fired that i'm gonna go finish off the front like who cares. I have nothing to lose at this point. And that might be why she's going so fucking hard at this reunion and doesn't give a shit about dropping these bombs on giselle and not being empathetic towards candice. She's not trying to save face. She's saying you know. What if i'm going to go out. Go out with a bang. I'm gonna say everything i want. I'm not trying to foster these relationships any further these women. Because i'm not going to be on the show anymore. That's really what i feel like. That's kind of her vibe. So between both sides. I think there's a middle ground of monique. This is just it's over. yeah. I think so too. That's why that's why she was going as hard as she was. But it's unfortunate. Because i don't know if this if she would have been done. I think that previous to the fight people would have considered monique a very strong cast number. They would have never thought she'd be gone this early. I actually think people would think delmonico's stay longer than candace you know and this really brought out a side of this whole thing just got very ugly. It's unfortunate really. Is i mean the other thing is like when we were just talking about how he liked it for appointed yoursel when it was going on with monique and call. You almost felt like giselle was less effected. It almost felt more just drama. Not as personal. Because you didn't know if this whole thing was a farce in general the way she was handling it whereas it's just an uncomfortable feeling to watch a woman hysterically cry. She's curly so emotionally hurt by this. Say are tears. Fake all you want like. I'm not a fan though to me. Those were not faked years and then to have to have this repeated. It's like we just want this over with yeah. I wish that was the most dirty dramatic thing that happened the reunion. That's like that's like normal house bullshit. Marriages gossip cheating. Whatever of course it sucks. You don't ever wanna see anyone's family go away but that's sort of the baseline that we're used to of. That's the most dramatic dirty that it's going to get at the reunion where that was almost like a lighthearted moment which is not good right. That's when you know that we are in deep. When delmonico's binder towards giselle was relatively light. Hard considering exactly. Yeah that you know. He'd have his own sermon. Okay do you wanna quickly talk about the social media action. That happened after the fact. Yeah there wasn't like that much. Monique was just tweeting throughout the night. she was saying disasters lying. Through that wrinkled neck. Your turn is coming. Await already did and she said yes. Let's put a pin it and let's pull that live video. Where candice admitted the plot an exposed her bandit friends. What she's referring to there is candice went live. I think more in real time after this alleged dinner where this plot went down and said yes. We had this dinner. We spoke about it. My friends wanted to bring to the show. But i said no i shut down. Which when you hear that especially as long ago as it was it was clearly before the physical fight to hear candace defend her in that way and even watching those clips but to hear candace. Defend her in that way. And then see where we've ended up and the root of really all of the anger and frustration over the whole situation stems from this dinner and plot and kansas is the one who is defending her. And saying i'm upset about it. Even karen dead candace was really upset about a called me upset in wanted it to be shut down. It's like it's looks i go. We can discuss no upset. She literally it's not even she didn't do anything. She was almost advocating for her and she invited cherise to her fucking anniversary party. But i really don't think that there was malcontent there and i also think ashley saying to. Monique oh i heard candidate really try to buddy up a cherise and that set off monique's radar but that was it. That was kind of the. That was what went down and she didn't look at her actions and say oh kansas and say anything. She's not doing anything she's not trying to bring cherise around me in a private way so to see. The old videos of kansas was really crazy. Monique also tweeted. I wonder what this would be like. Had posted dragged me. Because they're sitting here like i didn't have a damn injury and the last thing she said. Give her an oscar please. So i'm supposed to be here crying so they can believe me. I'm not an actor. Sorry yeah robin. I think said it will. I believe that it was robin when she said monique you're allowing therese to have too much power. You're giving her too much energy. And i think ken is probably felt a sense of frustration of like. Don't misdirect your hatred cherise onto me. No i literally loved one. Robin said this so much. Because she's right she was saying you are giving cherise to power unless cherise is a shady lady. She's a little loves to stir the pot but at the end of the day. She's just a woman that used to be friends with someone who's gossiping about you. She's not the absolute worst person in the world. She's not really doing anything to accept talking a little shit behind your back and you're giving her way too much power to say you didn't give me a heads up. I get the girl code. However i think in kansas is is. It wasn't really that big of a deal. There were the party of one hundred plus people. it wasn't an intimate environment and to give cherise that much power that you need to mentally prepare to see her in. An event is like a little bit ridiculous. Yeah it when robbins said that coming from someone that was relatively neutral. I do think it put it a little bit input into perspective. Yeah they were like. Why are you giving so much energy to cherise. You're a little bit obsessed with this cherise thing and all cherise did was engaged with your friend. Who spreading rumors about you. I know that's terrible but like it could be worse. She's not even the one making it up like you. All monique's anger. I feel oliver. Frustrations should go towards gee-gee. That's i mean not to please. I'm not once a quote. Jamal bryant here but it was a little bit misdirected because but because jiji's not a cast member on the show that's the thing if gdp was a cast member on the show was sitting there the other women probably would have defended. Monique they would have said this is fucked up. Why are you talking about her family. Monique brought them all in because they even dipped and even entertained this plotline she has dragged them all into this because she they all even heard about it and maybe told one other person whereas she's not getting to the root of the issue. Which is this friend that none of us know exactly. That's like that's where it's very hard to get as much on board with her as he wants to. Even as a fan of hers. Oh my god i'm exhausted. I wanna tell all from g. I need her her side of the story. I know although i mean she is the one she's kind of getting across unscathed rather i hope not like. There's so much going on here. If she is the one who started it all and getting nothing in their bearing the brunt of her issue. It's not fair but that's kind of what it seems like doesn't it. I don't know. I really don't know i don't know either. Wow that was wild. Wow and we have a ninety minute reunion next week. you guys. with the husband's i'm scared. I'm not. I'm not ready. Like i just want you to know i'm not ready. We have one week. And i'm still. I'm not ready. I know thank god. We have this podcast. How do you feel. I feel good. I'm really happy that we did this. So fresh after the reunion. And wow amazing week. Soul much happened so much happened. I can't wait for next week. I also think that we're gonna. We're about to redo the intro. Because i feel like we. We gotta warn people about what just went down on tire episode. Yeah we have some really good topics like it's going to be a short episode and we are wrong that both you and i were like yeah like an hour twenty minutes. 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RHOBH: Roman Rumors With @therealitybitchs Ashlee

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RHOBH: Roman Rumors With @therealitybitchs Ashlee

"It's China NOV PLACES I go. Anticipate Hi. Hello this is Ashley Hoover Bakery. You're listening to the on this day entertainment podcast. I. Am so excited that you're tuning in for this episode to break down the real housewives of Beverly Hills episode. Roman. Rumors with another Ashley this Ashley is better known to many as the reality bitch on instagram. One of my favorite snarky accounts I laugh out loud every day at Ashley's content. This was an amazing Beverly Hills episode we dish it all and you're not gonNA WANNA. Miss a minute. So here you go. Are you great. How are you? I'm so good. I'm so glad to finally meet you. non-south site in I. Love Your content on Instagram so much God. Thank you. I'm kinda crazy. That's what's the best part of it is that you're kind of insane and that's I. Think why we all relate to you. I know I'd be like we all have the same feelings at least. That's what I get. MIDEM's may need some like. Isn't it just? In a world of pre. Internet I. Would Be the Hell because few of my friends watch housewives earned invested in this. So I had the Internet I. Have this whole world of people is such similar interests in only twenty years ago. This would be so lonely. So lonely like all my co workers, they don't watch it like I'm no one to talk to you about it but. My friends on the Internet and I'm really grateful for Them I. Love It. It's funny because when I was a teacher, I was the only like really hardcore housewife person like there are people who would like go in and out to lake humor me but it was it was lonely and nobody understood any of my jokes. No and like the great one liners I should get a reaction. They don't you say them you know because they just don't get it. If I say that's my opinion. Somebody should chuckle because that's the right thing to do. Anywhere people like us in the world. Especially since I see you're wearing a ragamuffin shirt. You Know Old Rock Moon. Revenue. Gold Half Moon is absolute life. She's killing it. I have keychain from her that I'm obsessed with I got a pin I'm going to put on my lanyard says Giovanni cycle where to work and proprio yet at the same time. Exactly. A It's all happening pin from them, and my sister has the matching. So we're fans or definitely fans. At least we have housewives to keep us mentally sane during these times. All I've been watching matter ninety day fiance. I was just catching up on admits the last few minutes I was literally just finishing up when we started this call. So this like Your Reality Passion Likely Bravo Ninety. Day. Is there anything else I love reality TV since I was young so I started with bachelor with my mom like the moved to vh wine in like album that prime television and I wish like we can still wash his really beach one shows because they were very good. Love. Jersey Shore. Before, we start just giving the groundwork here. Think about Denise Brandy, do you think they did do you think they didn't I? Totally the credit happened I I believe that happened I'm like on Brandy side because vital she just wanna I mean there's so many other lies she can make up say about people you know in that one's kind of serious one and I just I believe the timelines, right? I've seen a bunch of things on instagram. There are sloops out there in they're doing the Lord's work and they are piecing together puzzles and just saying like the timelines not matching up but I think maybe brandy really wanted to do it and like she's acting like a victim like she's But I feel like need he. She was down you know like kind of playing that part up. Denise's face I. Think said it all if there's nothing to hide, why would you like be trying to hide it lake if it didn't happen, it didn't happen. So I'm interested to see where that goes. What are you feeling as far as the team denise will sell supports denise or like team everybody else as far as like this whole feud that's been going on so far dragged our looks at this point. Now, I kind of felt bad like how like they? Just like everyone says like there's not much going on on the season, but with the three, some stuff so they're just. Dragging it on and I I didn't mind it for like an episode to find but it's just like Kinda repented like we've it alone. She can talk Raunchy with Y'all but we can still I think common courtesy when there's kids around sometimes to like her down only agree on for that in radishes it's kind of hard 'cause like image everywhere right now on what side I it's like I'm flip flopping every day metoo and it's just so weird like you. said, the timelines aren't exactly matching up in the thing that I find that would be the strangest at the black and white party brandy said, she wanted to have that throttle with denise and Erin whereas if she was truly like affected in her by this affair that she had I, don't know why she would bring it bring it up in that way like overt had sex with denise but I regret it but now mention it. That's very weird me at. Like I don't believe her sadness about it. You know you. See that part I felt was so fake like holy. Brand New Lake I'm sorry if it's true if you slept with somebody and they told you, it was okay like Hey I know you're married but we have this. If that was your belief. You didn't do anything wrong layers early that doesn't mean you wouldn't still feel bad but for her to like carry that burden I don't believe for a second. Now. He's definitely I think she just wants to be on TV. It will in the things that she's done that she should have let carried burden with over the years like the list is so long but it's like is that where she's going to have this moral tiffany of a high ground or something like Yeah just way to conveniently there's been a few things I mean I wanted to have happened like that doesn't mean anything if it did like it's true exactly like our cell said, it's not our business. It doesn't matter like their veteran, their business, but damn I WANNA know. The Truth and I'm just GonNa Kinda. Maybe believe it might theory is that may be like Brandy told Cam in they canceled Kyle. Thing then I only have a big now and then maybe the rumors started. I have no idea very here. So I I know like the real what really? Yeah. That's the thing. In one thing I just don't see will it's very obvious at this point and I think they said timeline was wise that that seem with Brandy Kim and Teddy at Kyle's house. They said, it was like one of those teacup scenes that they had to go back and CELLNET, which in retrospect go back in it's like all look they're acting of course they were but it still just even knowing that the timeline in plus like knowing it was right at Bravo con. Brown. Bravo con, they flew to New York and from there to Rome. Where do you live actually? I live in Austin Texas Oh. Yeah. You Southern Gal was. Obviously, would have dreamed to go to Bravo Con I. Think all of us would have. I know totally my friend and I were working in when like the tickets on where I like my students like you guys just like doing morning work like. Like busy right now, like my friend I were texting like okay. So we're GONNA get these tickets and if you get in before me just by to. opne back. In literally get in there also in like we kind of felt like maybe we should have bought the second because there's three tiers. News you just saw the second one in like Ben just like Mike Maximum. Credit Card. Just. Would've enjoyed it but really sad within and go but hopefully, they do it again. If I would've known I'm sure as any of us would have known that we'd be inside for what's looking like the majority of twenty twenty I would have spent the money. I wasn't willing to pay on something I. Don't know I guess like I was very invested in the fire festival and watch the Netflix Hulu show. So I was kind of like anticipating a nightmare and it ended up like looking. Amazing. So it was a crapshoot but even just knowing that they were sitting on that information at Bravo comm like. President, and they of the clip in the episode two when she was talking about brandy and like they're good friends. I love the editors. The shows are good but the editing is what makes them just outstanding television Makes US laugh I think when we notice those little things up there. They really give us so many gifts like if it wasn't edited the way it was like, for instance, of course, you're Aronie fan if they wouldn't have numbered remoteness friends at her party, it would've just been another party but that's GonNa go down in history as one of the best late gags in it's all just a lever at. Love. Deserve every dollar they make. It's like a dream I love that if I would've known like to go to school for that, I would have done another job I would have loved to have gone to school for is Dina stylist for these women like we see even like? At the very beginning, we see to reach she's in a confessional saying Italy I can't wait to dress up. I. Don't know if I went too far with this when when she's in the Chanel outfit. Okay you have three words to describe that. Chanel outfit give me three words Ashley. Is. A statement or three separate words or like three phrases. Staples. Yeah. I would say. Confusing in. One I just didn't understand the hair. The. Hair. Is Kind Neb like biker chic. She kinda looked like she can like was like a like a cutie rich biker girl. Tacky. Who last one I was just just not a big fan of it and she called her casual and like role. That's not casual casual leggings entity Scher. Are. Like. Denise Richards Casual beat me to it I. I you beat me to it. Extreme. Denise Richards is like exactly like what casual is season? One Teddy Casual then. There's Jerry in head detention. The worth it's also shot like a dog catcher. Let I must acted her to go out like see her running on the street with a net or something that you know like going out in like trapping animals it was. Confusing on saddling it was just which pays somebody to do all that for her. So do they have a NI- are like who's WHO's the right? When are we the right ones for the right ones? Should we be dressing like that? I don't know anymore but like you had money I think my taste would never go that direction and not that far now definitely not. Laycock, maybe less Amaranth Kyle, she be of Hyun, cash. Yeah early. I wouldn't be denise like I feel like I'm denise now and that's just like basically jeans and t shirt that's like corned. Will I'm being generous with jeans those have a buckle but like Beverly Hills, I don't relate to any of them on a fashion level like none of them are like any aesthetic I love Liza I. Love Erica Jane's static she's. Gorgeous. Touching even when to reach wrong this was amiss and I love fashion because it's risks and sometimes you make hits sometimes you miss. This was definitely amiss but I think she's like a walking piece of art like she's just amazing to look at. Anything on her and her look great. He's gorgeous even though I can't stand her. Love to hate her mostly hitter. She's literally so beautiful to whatever what's going on with her transformation this season like we've seen so many like phases over like the moon. Totally. Agree I. Don't know I think she needs to show before it gets like that. You know like I think once you. Go too far. You just can't come back from it brand glanville. Who says it was just her doing her own makeup. Or at another thing she tweeted was that she had dental surgery. Our whole face was swollen. Her eyes are all. If that's the case I'd go easy on her, but she just looks like. Dental surgery every time she's on camera or like on instagram girl. Yeah sorry branding not buying it. Now on likes Sonja Morgan owned it. Exactly. One thing I would never own his weird beard that Pearl Harbor Line like I think that was the most offensive part of the outfit. Eight it was. That's what threw me off the most of it. What was the point of like you could have been? Okay. If she did something there for. The rest of it made like it was tacky. I thought. But the head from the neck down, it was supposed to be in the same outfit. That looked like evening gown. It was a strange strange one. So we see ladies out for dinner was Lisa, Kyle Erica Doreen Teddy and I'm always obsessed with what the housewives order Kyle or Margarita no salts. I. Would you order your. In Italy, we gave her some ship for like, why are you going to Italy and art ordering Margherita Urine Rolm. You're late Chilin next to the coliseum work cocktail. Are you ordering Ashley? What I don't even what's roaming cocktail basis champagne rights and that what they're silent Orson Percents I'm so glad. Okay. So is like a wine and that's Italian but the weirdest thing is that she said a couple of other drinks that are not Italian. But she said it with her talion accent, which I can't wait for her to use book. She said Campari soda which Camparis Lacouer and I think God's Italian. This the next thing she said was gin and tonic you would never know was like what? I what rituals Jamie don't eat. What the Hell did she say? She said Gin and tonic. which is not Italian. No, it's not. So I will go with the echo who, yes. I got the Margaritas ones that was Margarita on the menu you think or do you think just like her needed it? It's just maybe just said look I wanna Margarito which is weird like I don't know how it's my first night in Italy I wouldn't order the same thing I would have my first night Mexico. So true. I would like want experience the culture in which you. Will examine in the weirdest thing is jury ended up ordering. A VODKA SODA which is not Italian at all but and I I'm with you I don't like Duri, but twenty twenty has been such a shit show that I'm finding myself. Not only liking read but tolerating PK where PK. Whereas I never have before but winter read in all the warm fuzzies that have felt this season for jury that have never felt when she said but at least ordered an Italian I, took it all back. I took it back. I die when she said that was like the why bitching etc. then you are ordering the so basic that you can make it your house and your hotel room that's my quarantine drink that's literally my quarantine drink because I can't fuck it up and I don't need fancy bar tools. No, it's so easy I love Deep Eddy Lemon that's my favorite. What is it? Eddie Lemon Baca. ooh. Oh I've got. A vodka drinker. So I'm here for that. I think this was so telling who teddy is an who eric is Eric who ordered a penicillin, which is like a House lakes specialty cocktail light on the ginger juice. So she's like, Oh, I, don't want the ginger juice like I'm not interested and then Teddy said, I, just went the ginger juice no alcohol obviously she's pregnant and I was just like. Teddy, you're like bottom of the barrel whatever whatever the rest of us don't want you can get. No. Just. Wants to be like the rest of them Secretly, where are you on the teddy spectrum. I'm on the far side. Like I think she's a beautiful i. think she's stunning. I love her peak confessional with Blue Eyes like eyes just popped in a hood. To normal and I just don't think she has the house personnel i. think she's just a great person in general just not what we need on our TV sloth sensitive in just always like. I'm just like we any more Leah's. What against what a gift was all. It's funny to me because people keep on saying about Lia how she's like the best new housewife which I'm not gonNA argue I think a lot of us would agree that she came in just like such big shoes to fill in she's not billing beneath shoes but like it's a big, it's a big act to follow and she's nailed it. Whereas I think Gar Sal has done the fame but oursel- had a harder task. New York was like a Well oiled machine. It was a it was perfect. She been then we go to Beverly Hills in last season was absolute trash in Garcia cleaned it up. I love our Selam. So happen to have her. She is so funny in relatable love it. She's like the most with the exception of Denise. She's the most successful one like on her own in her own right on the current cast exe- it will denise also is the only one more successful than her probably they're like the two easiest going women the rest of them are such pains in the ass compared to. Now Ser problem they need to take a lesson. Am just stunned like I think oursel- has just first of all those are the best cheekbones. Next to Cynthia from Atlanta like I mean that woman has got cheekbones for days. Uniform Jeans and love it. Kids are adorable. Kids are. Boy, is like in some like from going from seeing least arenas daughter with her laundry list of Demands Wild Wild Wet Planet does she live on? Mon- girl got was really embarrassing and she should be ashamed of. She is like when she realized that she should. Wow, I sound like a spoiled little bit because. I need a door from the ceiling to the ground like I I'm like wonder though is something bad happened to her that why she has anxiety or she just let Zeke things are gonNA happen her. What's what's happening? And anxiety is something you can't lakes. Spectrum there's so many different levels to it. For Lisa I hope I. Think she was thinking what we were thinking. You know like Oh my God my daughter. So. Exactly, Oh my God. I. Hope She was. Aware enough to think that like I hope she didn't think it was cute like. My daughter I hope she wasn't playing that way because it was. Designed it was not a fan of it I was like we need to tell, oh gosh, and you're a teacher I used to be a teacher like dealing with parents like that. Don't be that parent if you have money, you don't have to be that person. No I totally agree with you scraping. Well. We're at dinner in the near the Coliseum and Liza ran up because it's Lisa Renna starts with the let's play a game and I was like my out. Here we go again. He has a plan. You know she knew she was doing. She is or she knows exactly what she was doing and why are people talking about Kim Richards setting up that whole reveal like. Kim Richards orchestrated that whole thing the whole Brit Brandon didn't bring that up Kim Richards did. That's true. That's so true. I don't know why they're not talking about and wonder if it's because Kim's not really on show. But they should be talking about a even like on social media I haven't seen that much. It's very true. It's weird like I know a lot of people are saying it was staged this set and the other but the even if it was, they staged it to where Kim gave that reveal like. Oh True What's your feelings on Kyle this year? Needs, she's just going through a middle aged women go through at a certain point in their life. Aka Menopause I. Think she's my mom's going through. She's like all over the place with her emotions like you know like crying and then like swe and angry and I'm just like is this what's happening just trying every five seconds of the day. So like I don't know should not not a huge fan right now I, like love. But the season just kind of like. I'm struggling with her very much this year. I really. Am I just She doesn't feel real any more and I find myself in. This is yet another week there several weeks at I've said this I enjoy kyle most when Kim is involved. I agree if Kim's not there, I don't really care about Kyle and like moving forward if Kyle's going to be there even in a friend of role and take him back in any way. But Lake, we need Kim I need Kim for Kyle to be interesting. I know cows really boring. I'm just she like needs Teddy too and I'm just like Kim they both I think hiles like eras debt. Let's just move on and get some fresh me and Go from there. Exciting. Kyle's like. At the end was the. Saying Goodbye? Carl. That'd be the FA I wish editor would do that. Really. It's a matter of time when Lisa was orchestrating the whole. Let's play a game. It was actually a good question and I oh, my God this was actually one of the rare great moments that I got that she the question that leads to ask what was the thing that you got the most trouble for as a kid and that's when we got Kyle's story of losing her virginity. I loved it. It was so funny and I love how What's her name Kim told the whole family and like I'm a child so I related with Erica insane like got him an only child and I don't have to deal with this in like my business being spread throughout the whole family. Darlas. Amazing. I, guess was sisters do. I, love it and I love the. Kyle was so funny when she did her impression of Kathy would she goes. How was it? I know she made her voice t to. So, good. But again, the best kyle moments even though Kim wasn't physically on screen with her, she is best in that element and that's where Bravo's. Why we have tatty and not cam is beyond me are now they should be packaged deal, Kim and Kyle like white can't be without the other. It will and it's funny because if I had a way if I only had one of them, I would take him richards any day and twice on Sundays over. Kyle. At that point that the dinner Garcia Garcellano Denise arrived, it was a surprise is that they were going back to the hotel. Did he starts shaking her head and at this point? What do you think? Teddy. So upset about this has been like. Leg weighing on her why do you think she cares so much. I. Don't know. I think it's what I think. She feels like she had her feelings hurt is she has to express that might feelings are hurt. And I feel like that's what it is because like. I don't know why her brand new like having sex would be an issue for her like why would have to weigh her down as a giant secret? You mean it because like denise didn't tell her but I don now I feel like she's just mostly thinking about herself in this whole situation than anything else. There's been some people that. Kind of mentioned that it seemed like she was kind of on a moral high ground and might not even about the marriage but kind of like a youtube girls like e did that happen? I did a poll on instagram and it was split half-and-half half-and-half half like. Did that cross your mind. Did it Teddy feel it all slightly homophobic in that way at all. I just think that she has the mindset of like a mom that has like the child whose like thirteen or something, and like when she thinks her peanut, she doesn't think of sex appeal like she thinks of making out. So she just was just kind of sitting headsets like I just wasn't expecting. That's what hookup meant. You know when it comes to I guess two girls or something. Thank her saying that that's a perspective I didn't have in your absolutely in. It's funny because when this happened I'm like. We're adults like. Drill disagree that Legras having sex lake, why are we using code words but when you're when you have young daughters that are in that age range like they actually use as kind of like I be's hookup kiss whatever it is. But there have like those different levels that was that was really interesting. I'm really glad she said that. the whole eighty sexting doesn't bother me at all like I really could care less but. Jenn. What's that like? I just want more information on it just wouldn't like ourselves said, just tell me the details flicked. About this last week to with my guest, I was just like. Denise really has a weird thing about picking terrible people like nick she married Charlie Sheen. She's with crazy big dig, Aaron and you'RE GONNA. Go dip in the lady pond with the Wacky is person on Earth Lake Glenville at of all people. She could get any woman denise. Man. Anywhere anytime like she just needs to like walk into a room and he's got a long line. Woman would be like, okay. Let's go denise like Oh my God. Richard was amazing. Ragamuffin. Let's so funny I love in. This S so much ourselves and. Denise arrived at that dinner the energy level just picked up so much carcelle is so fun to like, Hey, let's get a drink and single. I love her love her so much I love her in Sutton they were really good addition service show. Thank. You and even Kyabram. So have you always been caboose on Sutton this season? I loved her I. Always kind of liked her in like how sweet she kind of was and just like how like loops and like her mannerisms. Different doesn't fit with the Beverly Hills vibe. You know she's like definitely. Not the same but I liked that makes her unique different. Love her and I've loved her since day one and I I really noticed just on social media late, the buzz people. Like those of us who maybe weren't like build long-term Sutton fans I think this episode pretty much got people to change like wow. Okay. Like now or at least she's growing on me at this point. I totally agree she's like you know story to us. You know it's like Sutton to them. Exactly. Oh odori has given us so much of a journey do they have a book Bapu in Texas where he live? There was one that I've been to once here in North Austin, but because down. Only. Private. So you know I'm just so excited in. This was another great Kyle she was in a confessional is to use the accent when she's book tobacco and like I just in thinking like the family platter Mozzarella's jets I can't wait I'm actually going on a road trip when things are open in safe like I'm going to encino now I'm going it's like a four and a half hour drive and going to Buca di Beppo. You're you are, and you're gonNA become the whole experience and we're going to pretend that we're with you. Gosh I, I. I can't wait. That's. That's what I'm craving to deal like I'm like, Oh, I can't wait for things to be back to normal. So I can go to book the BAPU. Maybe, a shirt like they're. Exactly. So we ended up seeing. The girls talk about Gar cells Michael will bike ex husband Mike and neil quote unquote chocolate my bill that she's dating. Now, what do you think about the Thanksgiving thing? Do you think she should invite her new boyfriend? Do you big It might be too soon. Not Be like once you hit a certain age in your life you just Kinda. Go with the flow. So if you've been dating them for three months or something or couple like two months in a holiday lucky man by them. Hopefully I, think our ex-husband should be pretty cool. Right oops though I mean. Being kind of awkward weird. I Love I feel I might be kind of scared to do that personally because I'm a little baby. Confrontation definitely awkward. But if I mean they've known each other for so long usually I'd be like. Little fast than like they've known each other twenty something years lake. We're good here on time limits. Owner I can't is so many. Great. Kyle moments when. Lease Arena asked do call Michael Chocolate Michael to his space and kyle is like well inherit win leases in bed with her husband you know she calls him by his full name Harry. Area. Guys though. Each true. It's funny shrew. Do you think there's still together with all these like Harry Hamlin living in a different place like do you see any truth to that? I mean, maybe maybe I don't know now I'm GonNa. Say that there may be there just together they have their they're just older I. Don't know I feel like once you have kids who are out of the house what I've seen like in Li- feel like your relationship Kinda, changes in like navy do grow our realize. Wow, you've been raising kids for talk in the House for twenty years. Another gone. This is who we really are. Maybe they don't like each other. And he always seems like he's gone or like doing other things not involved at all. That's for sure exactly and he seemed like a really good dad like obviously the girls love him they go out of their way to spend time with them every time they can that like he definitely seems like he's not fully connected like Maurizio does worry CEO's in in Harry him when though he's a great father doesn't feel like. Quite, as D. I totally agree with you I guess time will tell me nuts here. do you like horror movies at all? I do yeah, I'm a fan I probably don't keep up with them, but I, watch them go totally into lease arenas story about the exorcist in this t churches. Kind of. Like I never. Love movies in a lot of random facts, which is like a big part of this podcast movie knowledge in stuff. But I i. when she said that the Italians didn't want the exorcist shown there and they showed it anyway, one of the two churches caught a gutless hit lightening strike it. I was like, ooh story I love this. kind of one of the things that really is this true is he's almost too good to be true, right? Fake and when I Denise at that point said that she believes in these things than we go to her confessional saying you know. I was told that we have you know I live in over a burial ground and my girls we see things we hear things. She said, do you believe in that stuff? Do believe in that kind like ghosts? Hi I'm in kind of when I hear those stories from people I am I believe it I mean I've never experienced it but I don't believe I like in maybe shadows of people but I needed believe in spirits hanging around and lurking around in doing some scrape things. Like like. freaked out I love that kind of stuff I grew up in New Orleans delayed the supernatural, very big down there silly that stuff is just very like almost comforting to me. So when denise was like, yeah people are gonNA. Think of Milwaukee do was like this actually probably one of the least Wackadoo things I think of you. We also got another flashback from Erica reminding us that she was a boy. Twelve year old boy do you remember that when it aired like I had forgotten about it Erica they were looking at another piece of street, our earliest statue really and there was cross on top of it and I thought it was just really interesting. She said, she'd Italy before that she had been in a different life and she had been there and she would like to add lived on the bottom of the ship. These Beverly Hills Women's smoking like what's like you? Always like every time I go to la there's always like random guys like random hippies league selling crystals on the side of the road like. I think navy's are pulling over too much. But you know what I would love to know if I was in a dip like where I was in a past life I feel like I'm I was like, Egypt. Religion Egyptians. I love learning about them the most like when school some like meet me I was like a princess or something ooh I've to go with that I. Absolutely feel like that was who you were like in your last live or maybe a few lives Dow no couple of years. Thousands of years ago. What did you think of the whole shopping excursion? I loved it in an extremely jealous of their bank accounts I. Think Kyle dropped the most and I would I would love to go into a high end store just shop without Kerry because that's how they acted. They acted like they didn't really care. But like I go into Ross or like Tj Maxx and I'm like adding in my brain the whole time like. Fifty as like let's Sandra. Budget. God, I now and again are being the most relatable person. She's the only one who asked him to the price of anything. Blick what about that? saleslady saying Oh, it doesn't matter. She's just trying to make that money that commission girls working for that coin. Is I did love. So like I loved air outfit that for that whole trip except for the pants, I just wasn't a fan with the big sweater in nets. Up From our head to her tummy I agree. I think you're exactly right lake if you're going to be baggy on top and so much like fabric, and then the extra hat I think you need to do something very minimal down there. Lay look a tight leggings like a light leather leggings or something. Like that. But those white can't do white cancer minded me, of my grandma. So funny I agree with you. Would have like little white cats like with those pants on. Mine always at gold gold shoes. Dance Q. Grandma's they're the best. Love. Him I love that Kim called Kyle while she was in Rome and. Let her know like Cam Getting Minute chompers today? No. This whole new teeth trend you know it makes you feel better do it. It's it's kind of you can tell but you know what I definitely changes a person's look. It's like your hair if I go burnett out, feel like a whole new human. So I feel like t kinda. You the saying this effect it's weird because like these people who have never noticed there t look in a bad way or good way whatever like it just amazing to me that that's just like it was like boobs and then it was but and now, I feel it's Ki- like people are just kind of like the trend is going and just weird to me wonder what the next one will be. I wonder it's weird I mean you could never really predict I mean who would have thought because like to give the veneers, you have to shave your teeth down to where they're like little knobs here yet to get them done like every ten years Oh really. Yeah. Young men she had been in an accident needed them Gede lawsuit the long story. But yeah, they had to shave some of her teed. It was very strange. Here we are. Let's get to the dinner. The. Dinner heard round the world. Will before that date night talked about something that they did before they got ready while they're ready. please. So I had someone D- Emmy saying Did you did anyone else notice how a win had? He was calling her husband at a will was a woman on the voice mail and like that's something probably teddy would freak out about if it was her friend calling in her leaker friend's husband's voicemail was chick now is like well, maybe it's like Automated Machine, but I listened to it again definitely was not in maybe it's like an assistant but I thought that was kind of interesting. Here. It's because I had a hard time understanding the message deliver light the machine like it was inaudible but I, didn't think about it not. It's a really good point. You're right. There are some super sleuths out thoroughly gets amazing but the people have for the stuff. Was, them I, love it. There are a bunch of begging king and out there. It's amazing. Another thing that was funny was they showed like Kyle getting ready like you know by herself and like switch to like Erica. Rana with their Glam squad and it was so funny because Kyle was like bitching earlier like bringing claimed squad while La Blah. Are you tired of the Glam squad conversation are you? I mean I wish I had one, but I wouldn't often out it all the time. I thought interesting when Erica had one like she invented the Glam squad but nobody had glam until Erica did and now it's just like the fact that it's a thing we talk about. I'm just not. Entrust. With Lake somebody. I mean, it's amazing that you have a stylist and I love that I love that that's their job. Helluva their creative outlet make money off of it. I think it's phenomenal like I would be much more interested into reach look if she put them together herself that's so true like if she had vision and like did it on her own exactly or even got some help like even if it was like one of those things like, Hey, this is what I WANNA do. I saw this piece from you know. Whoever Vera Wang Whatnot and I love it and Can do something like that in the she had the ideas was lake guiding the execution but like how they just okay. Just do everything could just it's not that interesting anymore. Now. It's not in Erica paved the way like you said. Less her my friend in college had a gleam room. When, I had a house like my yet an extra room in that was my Glam Room. Oh my gosh that would be amazing. So let's talk. Are you fashion girl? Do you love like looking at people's clothes and stuff? That's fine. I liked judging them. Okay. Good. Let's judge. courcelle arrives to the infamous dinner in all Silver Dejan yourselves look. I like didn't look really good on her yes. Yes. For the I couldn't wear the guy how long Karmanos sweater things like that. Definitely not glamour aspect a don't wear them ever jumping fade fit well each so Loved it on her Oh Gosh? Yes she's one of those people that can wear a potato sack in it's just infuriating. Might be a little young. Did you ever watch fashioned police was at Lake Heart of your Rivers Yeah. Of course. Queen. So we'll do a gotTA, have it or make it stop like in fashion police. Denise came in casual is ever but she was actually wearing a black top in maroon pants gotta have it or make it stop. Got To have it for work a good workout. Now for a fancy dinner in Rome. It wasn't genes so is. Debris inver Saatchi she was wearing number Saatchi logos shirt she had the layered galland were. Not Gamble the bottom skirt part gotta have it. Make It stop. At gotTa have it. And I like I said, I, think durant is like art like this is one of my favorite looks of hers like I thought it was stunning. Allow the skirt look it was like long on the side but short in the front and I, disliked her hair really kill. Her here, this weird flip up. It reminds me of something. I don't know what it is yet, and I don't like it but I don't hate it either names me of madman like in the fifties like all those betty draper Oh my God it's total betty draper hair. Oh my God Birdie you're right Oh my God I love it. You Watch mad men got that. ONIC. Honestly, like one of the best link is somebody who's been in my whole life character study like, Oh, my Gosh said show is so deep on. So many levels it was dark and it wasn't expecting it to be as dark as it was and I wonder times was really liked men Ripley, you know. That's really what they were doing at work and stuff. Gene. Terrifying we we take things like our phones you know having tracker is not that I would ever do that. But the betty draper's of the world probably wish they could hundred percent. One thing I loved about the dinner was that we see Renna come in in a leopard dress with huge lake puffy shoulders. What did you think of Lynn Lease Arenas Leopard look I believe that I'm not I can't do the shoulders. What about teddy in almost the same dress? Hated it. At, like run as more than Teddy's. How did? So. Cheap. I don't know it just I don't know if it was the color of the material that dress just was not a good look at did not like how it be lying on her chest like how made her shoulders here look little wind. Was Not a fan it was terrible. Obviously Teddy's not a strong dresser but this I think might have been the worst she's ever looked she looked horrendous. No she better in like her leggings in her hats than in that outfit. Stick with leisure because her. Just not dress for pregnancy while and hate to like. I had to be judge would you for the pregnant girl but she just she looked hair a ball Erica's funeral chic gotta have it. Make It stop. GotTa have it because Air Jane Stunning. Stunning I thought I wrote down teddy looked like a low rent Renna and I'm going to stay at she did look like rent version of Renault. I agree with that sudden came at the very end in that black and red floral dress. What did you think I loved it I'm told her that what do you think of southern style on the regular just as a whole? I, like it because I feel like she's read should she's wearing like couture things I mean, it's not supposed to appeal to everyone because it's like art you know I was never fan of that one from the you know the first time we met her with that key top everyone judged. We didn't like that but she she's pretty good. I like most of the things she wears a feeling she's very core game whimsey blake whimsical in her dress than the way she dresses and I liked that even though a lot of times I don't think it necessarily works still like it but I thought she looked stunning. So. Good. Did you watch what happens live by chance? Yes. Certain. Okay. In this drives me crazy but she's obviously lost like five to ten pounds. She's now. Everybody gets thin being on the housewives for a minute. Garcia actually was onto and she looks like she's probably lost five or ten pounds. They both look amazing. But like isn't it infuriating that everybody looks so much better than her I know it's I hate it. What do you think about the way Denise Richards eat? She eats like, what are your students basically, right. Disdain that she was allergic to garlic never heard them allies. I was GonNa ask you do you believe her? Maybe I mean who's picky about garlic garlic is amazing hands everything. So it's hired when? She truly orders like a child like she has a child palate in again and projecting. How does she stay so damn thin when she eats like that when she eats like a kit. Idea must be Nice Oh God knicks. Exactly. Sutton people have been very divided and I know people were very cringed out. What did you think what she had that sip of wine in like with like A kid drink it. We're going to need something new I. loved it. So like Chrissy, in like I duNno, I thought it was hilarious. Now, Oh, my God I have served so much wine as a server as a bartender in my life and never has anybody said the bottle back I've never seen that it's very now. And the fact that she just did it and it was just going to send it back from. People don't do that like that's not normal. Now I keep my gross drink in I, just suffer through it. Sometimes. It's too much alcohol and I'm like again, I just have to drink get. I can't send it back because I feel bad and I, don't care to other drinks. Exactly, oh, my Gosh So at that point, Sutton brings up the conversation that she had with Dr. Style. Mentioned how you know the talking about money made her uncomfortable carcelle apologize it was over. Easy why can't the rest of the women do that now cut I have no idea. It's really simple to be friends with people. Now. So easy just to say, sorry in the move on, they have to hold on leaguer on things and it just be making yoga whatever makes like sickly bill. Good. I feel sick click it actually like I don't like that feeling holding onto things if you affects my general health and I don't know why they do that. I guess they wanNA keep that paycheck. That's probably exactly what it was. That was the transition where oursel- said okay, you know. Talks are there any other issues we've got to get out there? Whom Ted how shake even shake her voice was like Like I can't talk. He. Sounded like were cal from Vander pump rules Matz minute. That's my accent. Now I knew accident I am cold instead. It was not the beard thing like we're that voice. She was so up in her feels. I think we can all agree that teddy has just been boring. We've all been over her for a while even the people that don't hate teddy nobody loves her now I think like the veil was lifted for us all this week though late she's a person late. Sure. Her feelings were hurt by what she thinks what the rumor is is what denise at a veteran she's allowed for revealing. She threw that sexual encounter in public at somebody like holding it against her. That was a really shitty thing to do on my God will start started my anger with her started in the van with Renna when she was telling Renai yet and he's talking about you. Anti Fuck Brandy like didn't. Tell. You did not have to tell rennet action at all. You could've told her yeah she's talking about you. That's fine but she's just being so messy in stirring the pie in it's not a good way. You know it's like sometimes we like it when they started the Jennifer Eidan, it's kind of like Lou? Feel, weird but like. Teddy is not good. Will make this just proves how terrible teddy is as a housewife because she's literally the one stirring the pot like she's stirring the pot more than Renna this year significantly. Reynoso least entertaining as she does it, how is teddy stirring the pot? She's literally a Shit Stirrer, but she's boring. I didn't know you could be both things at the same time. Aaron. Used to be on your word Emmy for that. I know like bad movies have the razzies like we need the terrible performances of housewives. Does. It feel like. Just because he is doing all the shit stirring does it feel like obviously Shane Cuyler bus rides do you think like cheating high alert kind of had this like, Hey, we're GONNA do this. We're going to be there for each other and get this done like do you think there's like an alliance there? I feel like a like anyone on this show has each other's backs. Kyle in. Teddy. They will I feel like. Fight to the now for each other until the end. So but I think it's because kyle notes that Teddy's week and like I mean insensitive and can get her feeling certain yet that I'm like that too. So it'd be nice friend like that but you're on housewives you need to. Toughen up a bit. Break God for real like we'll. She's like all about. All in keeping denise accountable like later on in the episode, She's like all these things that are going on that you want to keep privately. These are all the things we should be seeing like I just feel she has some lake. She's just she's just terrible. It's very it's very sad that we have her in Rome when we could have had Kim Richards in like it would have like I feel like Teddy's the third person like it play a game of Tony Telephone and Teddy's the end in why don't we just have it being Kim doing this job at it's true. She's the one who started at all and so funny when they're all confronting each other with the rumors like denise, are you talking about me and the goes Kyle, you were there. Like making Kyle talk in the art of it. Will and I think that's what it was. I think like Kyle is live hammer. Just let her do this and I was actually really glad that Teddy said a light you should be doing all this woman's dirty were. So. True. I think least arena did learn her lesson and not say damn thing. She shouldn't she has no like this is not her game. You know she had non bald. So I'm happy like you said, she stayed out of that. That's not her thing exactly will in especially since he's already proven to be such a shitty friend to denise this year. That's the last thing she I was really and I love Renault have been a fan of hers for years but a very disappointed in her for that. Could have been way better to denise. I just don't think you need to be mean to make good tv like you can be nice to each other and still make great TV. Totally. Agree love that you should. We should put that on a shirt. We absolutely should own my gosh. This is. Teddy snaps. Brandy is she said, the brand is very upset by why way happened. You know when you did or podcast and notice a lot of this back and forth online in curious as to what you think when he was like you know what happened and Denise's like it didn't happen until he's like Oh. So you know it. Do you think they're talking about both of them? Do you think are both talking about the affair? I think so I wrote that down to my notes like how it's just like her denise's reaction to it's like she doesn't know what they're talking about, but she mentally knows what they're talking about. So she's already denying it like I hear this crime podcast like when the purpose like denied that they didn't do the crime, but it's like You of tell that they did it because they like give themselves away by their answers and I think that's what denise did in that moment saying like we didn't do that and she's like well, what do you mean like anything you're saying shrill Needed show has caught. Exactly exactly. So side now, what's your favorite true crime podcast? My favorite murder. Here in Georgia. Kieran. I'M A. I'm Jealous I. Wish. I. Was a Karen like she's just so smart and nothing against Georgia. She's great and quirky in her own way. But yet Karen is like goals rub her did you know that Do you watch drunk history? Yes. Care Not Carolina Georgia's on scene. I've seen will also was my husband's a chef. We watch a lot of food TV and she's also on a lot of on desert shows on the food. She does a lot of food commentary. She has like a partner like she's got like a Karen essentially in the food world they may go around tasting desserts and stuff and giving commentary riots I night. You're going to need to go into like a youtube deep dive lake. Enjoy the rabbit hole. I'm GONNA love it. It's fantastic. So at this point, Denise says the brand is lying. She's like, no didn't happen. It didn't happen to read. Said my favorite line of the night. She says, why are we beating around the Bush? Are we talking about Bush when we're talking about these two women having sex 'cause I kinda love that. I definitely don't think she hot the Pun when she was saying it, but I was like a God. She has hook line and sinker on. That's amazing. Even notice that that. So funny now. God, the Fourth Wall Broken, and so many times recently on these shows. Honestly, this is exactly what Bravo needs to do like. Them, not talking about them being on his show at this point is ridiculous in it's about time that it's happening. US We've beat they see our reactions to, and they're like we gotta keep it up. I'm here for it. I. Love It. Win Jury said, why are you torturing her? And that's when teddy snapped. Probably felt bad I. Hope. She should apologize. Under percent. I really think she should apologize like. Like in her hotel room. She should have never brought that up if anything she should said, hey, it's none of my business but brandy told me this and if I was involved, I wouldn't want that spread about me. I'm not judging you I don't care. I'm just telling you this was setting case at something you need to handle. Because we're mature adults. Mentioning it at that table like teddy is dead to me. Now though messy she'd like did not have to do that. I forget which account it was that somebody did the whole mean girls word vomit thing and they were like tatty after. The word vomit I was like that's pretty funny. I think it was a church of Bravo. Shot out the Church of Bravo a major. Extends new confessional look the white believe there with no BRA. That's like Super Low cut. Did you. Love it. Actually. I think this is the best. She's Look I. think she looks stunning out really. I I thought it was a perfect look for her well. We can only see here up, but I thought she would gorgeous. She rocks everything. She wears I think my favorite one was that was the dinner the dress she works at the dinner where she called Teddy Boring that red. SOx To your Song Liberty Work on it if I'M NOT MISTAKEN A. Great stuff. I think another thing that people aren't talking about the shocking to me why are people not talking about how Sutton had heard about this rumor for months and it kept it under her hat They know someone left that on like I had that question on my instagram and they were saying talk about how Sutton already knew it. So I wonder if this is just a rumor that everyone kind of knew about but they're playing super to. are like you know kind of lead me happen Laker people talking about it because it's like a thing. Yeah I think totally happened. Learns across actress Class Sammy Housewives. We want them to spill the secrets, but like as a human being, she's a really good person. You know I, think brings. In class and I think just Kinda trashy at times, which is hilarious like when you talk about like just. The excessive money that she has trashy probably is the best word, but it's very tacky. To like talk about the excess, even though she won't talk about how she got her money. She's very quick to let everybody know how much she has but. She's amazing and her calling teddy out for being like did you say that because you're you're upset for yourself or did you say that out of I was like girl she laid that Shit, down? No less earned. Garcia. was like good point. And there goes teddy deflecting saying entertaining and the man. Teddy really is more I never liked her. After last night I, feel she's terror ball. I agree she started all of this. I mean randy came and told the secret by it's all teddy's fall that all the ships happening in Rome right now. Could have all been avoided exactly exactly. But they wouldn't have had a season and maybe that's like the whole Kyle Teddy thing like maybe this was like the master plan all along navy they they seem to always be up to something, right? I love this and I love to route so much in this moment and flipping again on on my flat from Doreen flipping again she's talking kyle interrupts wrapped. She starts again she had to indirectly you keep on talking over me stop it. It's rude. We're just like, so like team to re. I was I was like, thank you to read like cut calendar place like communist just kept going and it's like picks stop just stop. She is going menopause like instincts. She's so weird she's really and I'm obviously older than you. My mom went through menopausal while go in. The craziest at home at the time. And I was like Oh, my God, like my mother's crazy person like maybe he's what she's going i. Really, think. So their face is don't say there are you can always tell by their hands. Their hands are all like fifty euros old. Teddy just announced like okay. Well, here we are. There's no closure tonight dream denise, do you think they're going to do want them to cut that out? They think that'll happen just let their ever want me on their show again they better cut it out duty. There was ever a chance they were going to cut it out now. Definitely not unless like she really filed a Lawsuit Against Bravo Adrian Style announced it against Bravo actually. United. Bravo was ever going to take that out. I just don't understand like a really empathize for. Denise she got kids in this earlier in the season that she's in the middle lawsuit, a custody suit with Charlie like that's why I don't understand why these women are so upset about her like being a more lake pg rated mom needs days. She's told us that she's in the middle of something. But now at this point. To, ask them to cut something out of this show. You shouldn't look at this point and I love Denise Amman. Team. Denise. She shouldn't be on the show if she's asking them to cut things out, you should've said, I'm sorry I have to break my. Kids who whatever penalty there is I'll have to pay whatever but she should just be out at this point in my. View I one hundred percent agree lake you're on TV to give us your drama and show what's going on like I feel like maybe shows like more in she's not doing that right? If it's because of the lawsuit count your losses you have to quit like I, understand you're choosing your kids but you can't have it both ways. No because that's not what we want is viewers we spend our hours obsessing over these women and we expect them to be the tell us everything about them I mean that's why I love the show love looking into their lives and kind of envious in a way that I wish I could be as riches they are. Or like have that fashion like they have or all that stuff. The glamorous life. Gosh I. Guess it was only Gerstle on watch. What happens live? She had said that they were talking after the show she asked Erica. Do you think they're going to air that narco was like oh? Yeah they're going to air. S. It's so good. So the preview for next week we see denise she's bringing up brandy and things that brandy has said about the rest of the girls Denise said that Brandy said that she also had sex with other girls in the group. Is there any truth to that or is that just total gas lighting maybe gas lighting because I'm like looking at those women in Looking be but I had someone Dami saying they think maybe Erica and I'm like interesting or because like I. Guess she during Apple Dinner See she was very quiet. I just don't know if that was just editing you know. Will and she would be like the one girl that would do something like that. I feel like let's have some drinks. This is just kind of where this. Not Kyle. Definitely not, Teddy. No. Of all the girls on the show over the years not lv I mean now she's the only one that would make sense now it's like either yeah, it'd be Erica. Would Kim Richards be besties maybe not. Ought to reach, not. Not. Not Tie. Yeah now. ooh. I don't need gets rented either and I feel like editing just making give us that feel that it could be her but we're too smart to know that it's. We are, we are very sophisticated audience. It's wild anything else from a tonight's Beverly Hills, that we need to hit on you think. I don't think so A. Nailed everything was a pretty good episode. I really joined at was so good. It was so I mean it had. Yeah, we had so much drawn out about that. Stupid like Denise's mom shaming us like. Finally. We've got some great storylines happening. I'm just nervous at the season's almost over now we're coming to the end of it. Did you see I'm just in the last hour or so. They said, it was announced Denise contract was renewed and she's getting paid forget the number but it was she's the highest paid housewife overall and that she does have another season coming I saw that too I saw that too and I'm like how can she gets the most? She's been on the least amount of time she has to be hiding something. Right or they're right in her to stay. I don't know four I. Think Four Million Bucks for four years. It's amazing. It's insane. Actually took her to finally meet you. It's nice talking to you. Really enjoyed my time if you so much for having me my God, of course, everybody where they can find deal until you can me on instagram at the reality bitch and that's about it. So I'm sure none of your students, none of your parents have any idea that you are known online as the reality. Bitch I really hope not in when I made the username like I was just like very upset after like a house Beverly Hills episode last year because I made the account because I was just like hated jury out like this she's a fucking bitch. I got bent my concerns because my regular friends don't here at all like they don't care about house. So I was like I'm just GONNA type Reality Bitch not change in I just never did. So that's where I'm at I. Love It. I love it, keep it up. We have to be so nice at school in like stop bullying. So like this is an x-ray. Shoot about people we don't know. No let me let me get it out because I have to deal with it all day right like all the things you tell your students on the playground not to do is like basically what we go online to do and it's just what it is it's off all but you know sometimes you just gotTa Push Rangers in their place. They need us they need us. We are clearly the moral guide for some of these people. Angry with the OH. Good. Thank you very much. Thank you and have a wonderful school year Inc. you lock in rest up and enjoy your bravo enjoy rony tonight. Will soon. Okay. Bye Girl I. Thanks again to Ashley at the Reality Bitch on instagram. It was amazing talking to you a actually have some really great new perspectives thanks to you, and we will definitely have to do this again in the meantime. Make sure you're keeping up with all things on this day entertainment you can find on the Steiner teammate on instagram twitter, Tiktok and facebook while you are. On facebook search the groups for the fanny pack. That is the on this day entertainment facebook group where we keep these conversations going and more on this day entertainment. Dot Com has all things on this day entertainment from the reality TV news articles I. Write for taste of reality to podcast episodes merch. There is a Sonja Morgan and a new Leah from real housewives of new, Yorkshire that iconic line about. how the whole rony cast is one drink away from getting a mugshot. Amazing. You can get pins, t shirts, coffee mugs they're awesome. Again, check it out on this day entertainment DOT COM. That's where you will also find live events coming up on Wednesday I'm going live on the taste of reality instagram page. I'm doing an IGGY takeover. So on Wednesday from five PM to six PM Pacific Time. I'll have a Kiki with two special friends. 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In the Game of Life, Its Charis Take All

Let's Talk TV with Charis

15:14 min | 2 years ago

In the Game of Life, Its Charis Take All

"Hello everyone and welcome to this episode of. Let's talk tv. I'm your host care is still in and i'm really excited about this episode. It's going to be really short and sweet but <hes> i'm. It's just me today. No guest and just wanted to talk about some shows have been watching this week. Of course we're going to start out with the new episode of the real housewives of beverly hills in the game of life. It's renting off people talk about their fantasies. I'm living my in business and in life. I wore many hats and hair styles. You can stop in the bath lost you. There kiss my awesome. I'm not afraid of hard work but i'll never do your dirty work tabloids. My real life is so much choosier in beverly hills. The truth always has a way of rising at the time all right. So what did we think about this new episode. I personally am really enjoying the season an and think that it's going to be a lot better than last season but i mean like we said last week. It really doesn't take much. I honestly really you did enjoy though this this episode <hes> so the main thing that i think i mean you guys. Tell me if i'm wrong. <hes> ah i feel this season is feeling a lot more scripted in some ways and like the text message this thing from the last episode and then this one where to read says she's planning a trip and she wants to plan a trip for all the girls to just get away. I mean it's it's just so blah like come on like i don't know. I guess they're just trying. It feels very the hills us and you guys tell me if you think that i'm totally off but i used to love the hills with like lauren conrad and and heidi and spencer like i loved that show but i ve always i mean of course everyone knew that it was very scripted and anyways <hes> i. I thought this episode was really good. We got to kind of see. <hes> you know like i really enjoyed there. Were a couple of things. I really enjoyed about this episode and i wanna get i just want to pull up like a quick summary of episode and i'm not very prepared today so oh okay so two things that stuck out to me in the episode the first one being lease arenas <hes> talk hawk with her daughter and milia thought was actually very real and i don't know i just i really liked it and <hes> i know that a lot of women suffer maybe men too but i know that a lot of people suffer from you know body the smart via anorexia xia bohemia like looking in the mirror and picturing picturing yourself as one thing but in reality hewlett totally different and it leading to things like you know not eating and and i just thought that moment was very real and i really liked how it showed that it kind of showed more of we says relationship with her daughter and i i think that a lot of times you know we watch these shows and we put them in such a different place but in in reality like these people yes they're very different from me and that i don't make you know thousands and millions of dollars but they still have real life human struggles goals and i think that's one thing that the show's always done really well of is kind of showing like yes. They're extravagant. They have extravagant lives and they go to extravagant parties but at the end of the the day they they still have the struggles and so i really i thought that that was a really vulnerable moment and then also even though the scene on my god it seemed it was again so scripted too so scripted. Are they just trying so okay. I'm talking about the scene. That kyle goes in to talk to marie c._e._o. At the agency and at this point it's like are you just. They're just trying to talk about the agency. I mean obviously and you know why marissa's like <hes> so busy. I'm so busy like you're not that busy. You're allowing cameras to come in for ah conversation anyways so then kyle starts crying because her daughter's moving to college and you know like those kind of moments with kyle are moments comments that make you know people love kyle but the thing about this episode and i hope that it kind of stops maybe i hope that this is kind and i'm just the setup for the season and i'm very curious to see where the season goes but <hes> so far has felt very very scripted staged kind of fake and i hate that 'cause i wanna see like i think it's why i do i. I've i've always really liked to real housewives of beverly hills. I've watched it <hes> as you all know like i just kinda binged watched it and then i watched last season live and then this is my second full season that i'm watching live so you know i feel like it was a lot more real at the beginning but i also think that <hes> maybe they're maybe they're just like setting up because of maybe the stories went somewhere different than they thought and so. They're just like setting it up. Maybe this stuff they filmed later like i don't know i really don't know but it just seems very <hes> setup and fake and maybe i've been duped and it is <hes> setup and fake. It's been set up in fact this whole time which i'm sure that half of it is set up fake. I'm not that stupid but it's just so obvious it's like whenever you used to see like <hes> kristen cavalry and heidi or elsie or adriana talking to each other and just like how scripted it was and you knew scripted and it was so fake and that's just how it is felt safar so i would love to hear your opinions of what you think <hes> and then you're also also your opinion of <hes> what you think of <hes> denise richard. Oh sorry denise richards. I cannot talk today so anyways <hes> this was just like a philip. This was just a filler episode. They are still talking about the same old things the dog that libwillbe so i wanna get into it so next week is whenever they're actually in the bahamas and so we'll see hopefully it'll be better. The preview made it look better so yeah yeah but i definitely think the first episode was better. This was just kind of a filler and then we'll see what happens on the next episode. Something i really want to happen is erica jane to get more involved. She's kind of last season. She was very boring. Oh and this episode though we got to see mikey which was he's my favorite heard stylus guy. He's just so funny but everyone let me know what you think of the season so far and honestly i just can't wait for the real housewives of new york and a couple weeks so i can't wait to cover that too <hes>. I just wanted to talk about one show that i've been watching and it's called a patriot act with has gone montage and i'm sure that i stay at totally wrong because he said how to say his name on something and i was like i don't say that but anyways he's amazing. He used to be on the daily. Show so owner chat about that. Show <music> okay so number one. This show is the best theme song ever. Okay sorry the shows on netflix. If you don't have netflix you must live on another planet because who the hell doesn't have net flicks. <hes> and it's on netflix. There's new episodes every sunday. There is a season ended right before christmas and then then the new season just started. There's been like two episodes and the third one came out actually today sunday february twenty fourth <hes> so yeah. It's very it's just a very informative show it is it does tend to lean a little bit left but it does not like it's. I don't know it's just really informative. There's an episode about amazon which is very interesting. The one that came out today is about student loans sir. I'm really excited to watch it but basically he talks about just different topics <hes> that's going on in the world and it's just a very very very interesting show highly recommended. I think it's <hes> it's informative. It is funny and he does a really great job of explaining things in real human terms which a lot of times you can watch like new shows or whatever and it's very like above your head but this one it's very very very well researched and the graphics are beautiful like as graphic as a graphic designer working at a graphic design branding company. The graphics on the show are unlike anything on television and he stands literally on a stage that is just all graphics and and it's beautiful so whoever graphic designers are they're having a blast with the show i'm sure because every single thing on it is just so beautiful but are highly recommend get on net flicks a search for patriot act and watch that show because it's fantastic <hes> and then i wanted a to mention there's the final season abroad city and <hes> it is extremely hilarious and awesome. If you never watch another episode of broad city the first episode of season five that came out. I think it came out on my birthday. January twenty fourth it is called the the the title of the episode stories and it's basically like an instagram story the whole episode and it is hilarious and they go on an adventure for abbey's birthday they go from the top of manhattan to the bottom of manhattan and it's literally like just instagram stories and it is so good so well written really funny. <hes> it's just oh my god. It's so so so good. I cannot recommend that show enough if you've never watched broad city what the heck are you doing with your life. It's actually on hulu and dan did the new season you can only watch on comedy central like comedy central app but on my gosh highly highly highly recommend so funny so hilarious. I'm so gonna miss doc show. One of the best shows ever for sure so yeah. Those are my top three shows for this week like i said there's is going to be a very very fast episode. I did want to do some shoutouts <hes> to some podcast that i've been listening to and the first first one is about elizabeth homes. It's called the dropout and elizabeth homes is the creator and founder of this company called theranos and basically she frauded people to believing that this product product actually worked and basically what the product is is like it will take a drop of blood from your finger and it would you would put the trouble blood into this machine and it would tell you like if you had any kind of diseases or it could help to cure diseases like it would help to know things that are wrong with you without having to take like a ton one of blood and anyways she dropped out of college and she was nineteen and she started this company and now she's basically being sued for fraud <hes> <hes> and so there's actually an h._b._o. Documentary coming out soon about this at the beginning of march that i will definitely be talking about but i got the book to to. The book is called bad blood and i. I got it on audio books. I'm only on like the the third or so chapter but it's very very interesting. Being highly highly recommends a podcast getting the book and then checking out the documentary on h._b._o. Whenever that comes out but yeah it's it's crazy. I think think i think what's so interesting to us. It's kind of like those fire festival documentaries. You know like they completely hoechst people into believing that this this festival was real and i think whenever i think that's one of the greatest like interesting things in our world is these people that are frauds people at such a great extent in this elizabeth homegirl like she completely just do cbs people and <hes> got like millions and millions and millions of dollars out of people so it's very interesting highly recommend that podcast and of course <hes> checkout juicy scoop with heather mcdonald. If you want like a more deep dive on seems of real housewives. She definitely does a better better job than i could ever do. She does these really cool like impressions of all the housewives and she just an amazing comedian and so fun to listen to so definitely check that one out and yeah those are my two recommendations for today <hes> if you would like to follow me on twitter. My handle is at t._v. T._v. with karras and if you would like to follow me on instagram it is just <hes> at t._v. With carissa as well and i will i will. I'm definitely be <hes> posting episodes every sunday to recap housewives and then talk give you some extra things that you should watch so please tune in. Tell tell your friends share the short episode with them. It's a quick easy. Listen on your way to work or while. You're working out or whatever you're doing so. I hope that you guys have a great great rest of your day and i'll be back next sunday by.

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Juicy Scoop - Ep 345 - Taylor Strecker, RHOBH & RHONY

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

1:17:23 hr | 1 year ago

Juicy Scoop - Ep 345 - Taylor Strecker, RHOBH & RHONY

"Juicy scoopers sex is important to all of us. That's why I love OMG. Yes dot com, because it does large-scale peer reviewed scientific research about what sexually pleasurable for women, and they turn the findings into refreshingly, honest, practical video, so you can put it all to use alone or with a partner, the site features diverse people sharing sexual techniques. As comfortably as, if they were sharing recipes travel tips, get a special discount on the newly released season two by going to g yes dot com slash juicy. Had the McDonald. Scott the chew six. When the both when you're on the go. She Cisco is show the no she talks Hollywood tales from real life business segment to see real data surreal, citizens, you'll be addicted Dixit fat and the number one, tap or three alive Pau visited Lucile. Also. Hand up, McDonald cubes. Hello, and welcome to juicy scoop juicy scoopers who have listened to me for years, who have come to see my live shows who've seen my standup who've come to alive, juicy scoop. I so appreciate it, and I want to make the experience the best for you. And that is why I'm going to be doing a bunch of shows through the city wineries. And I'm going to change it up, and it's going to be the Heather McDonnell experience. Okay. So it's going to be different than any show you've seen, but ill hell have elements of the best part of the podcast, that you love the recaps the impressions. You know, improvisation me talking to the audience things that, that have had an all those shows, but it's also gonna have the part, I love, which is let me just telling great stories in my standup act that your husband or your co worker that may not be familiar with my podcasts could still come and thoroughly enjoy because. I've heard you guys on juicy scuba obsessed or stay, I don't know which one to come to, I can't decide this way, the majority of the shows through city winery, will be the Heather Donal experience, which is over an hour and a half of me doing all of that. I will have probably celebrities in the audience that we can have fun with and play with but they will not be being recorded. So it'll even be that much more fun for us to really let loose, I can be a snarky as I want. I can be as funny as I want. You can tell me a juicy two bit, and it won't matter because these will not be heard on juicy scoop the podcast, this is only for people that come to the live show, not for patriotic either. So I think it's gonna be really fun. I'm excited. I'm excited about getting being you a longer show that I can really just give all that I've been doing to you. So some of the city's I'm coming to in the next few months is the newest one. New York City, July twenty six these are all at the city winery, July twenty six New York City, Atlanta, September twenty seventh and twenty eight city. Winery winery, Nashville, November ninth two shows that night, Chicago. Now, Chicago Friday, November twenty second will be a juicy scoop podcast because that was set before the Chicago people were promised that, but then twenty-third will be the Heather McDonald experience. Boston January twenty fourth and twenty fifth the Hetherington experience you get it all. And same with Washington DC February seventh and eighth. Now, these are far in advance, but these are at the beautiful city wineries. And maybe you wanna plan your birthday your sorority connection your juicy scoop sorority life, whatever girls trip. These are the cities, I'm coming to their out the city warranties. There's other dates already set in other cities on how the McDonald's dot net, but these will. Be available. Pre sale this Wednesday. If you're part of the city winery, Email list, like you're a special member of city. Winery all these other tickets will be available on Friday, and there will be special VIP tickets available. It will not be an add on, it'll be a special ticket that will include the preferred seating and meeting and hang out with me after. So it's just going to be so much fun. And I'm really excited to bring you a different experience. The Heather McDonald experience. Now, let's get into the real housewives of Beverly Hills. Okay. Well, it was fair. Wean that is Kyle Richards oldest daughter Farah was born on Halloween. So she's had a Halloween party ever since now that she's thirty and wealthy. And they're on a TV show. They have a ferris wheel. Get it faira ferris wheel. Fair weaned pretty cute and Kyle's ready to rip it. Her last couple of years, she's never looked better. And she did a kind of not the most original husband wife, look, but it's really great. If you still want to dress slutty on Halloween, but your husband is kind of lazy, you make him Hugh Hefner, which Maria was you throw them some silk pajamas. He's thrilled. And then you suck your waste into the play may outfit that you get trashy lingerie it runs about five fifty well, poor Kyle. She had too much of that cheese pasta at Kyle's wedding, and she needed to send out to trashy laundry to get to the next biggest size, but she looked amazing. And. Some other great outfits that came that night was Torit. I woke up in the middle of the night with the most amazing outfit for peak caked where I'm going to make them call log a failed, and she had the clam squad, make him give him a long wig that they twirled an abundant the back, and she was his little pussy. She was his pussy cat, his famous cat that remember he left, like four hundred thousand million dollars to or something, anyway, her outfit note that original because who doesn't look good and cat again, great alpha. Because you do that little dark thing at the bottom of your nose, which just shortens. Everyone's knows it makes them look cute in perky and young. So she was a little cat. So is Erica. Jane only to find out that Lisa fricken Loretta came as Erica, Jane. That's right. She got her could show up and she was ready to rocket. So Denise came as an old French, Hooker, which is sweet because she obviously loves hookers. She's a patriot. Saint of Hooker. She presented a beautiful plate to one that was sitting in a car in her driveway. When Charlie Sheen, her ex husband wants spent thanksgiving with her and the girls her husband, Aaron greatest stepfather on earth. He barely through on a pair of jeans and an old Kate that's been in some, you know, Halloween basket since two thousand and ten oh teddy went as she went is that. That weird girl. What's it called Harley Quinn? You know what a fun thing to wear, but teddy as real housewife consultant, see Kyle new don't put makeup and shit on your face. Just look pretty just hot that night you're on a TV show. We didn't even know that was tidy half the night. She's sitting there by herself. She hasn't been featured that much during the show to begin with. Did she call me and ask me what she should be for Halloween? No. She didn't. You know, these are things that I offer all the girls Camille showed up in a sexy cat outfit, but she kind of covered her face up again. I don't recommend covering up the face. Well, erica. Jane, aka, Lisa Renna was ready to stir some shit because Kim Richards arrived to the party and leaves around. It was like, you know, I would've liked to heads up from Kyle that Kim Richards was coming to the party. You mean that Faeroes aunt was coming to her party? If Kyle is inviting all of her friends that are on TV show, wouldn't she invite the former cast member Kim Richards and also aunt slush godmother? I assume to faira, she showed up in an unfortunate out that it was kind of a lazy look of a gangster, which are like high waisted pants, which really wasn't that flattering, but they're still weirdness between Kim, and Lisa Wren up. Because Lisa ridi- gave her a buddy that was not expensive. And in, in a real, crunchy cellophane wrapping, which was strange and for her grandchild, and then Kim, because she thought Lisa, it was a bitch all season, then gave it back to her at a reunion, which was one of the greatest moments in real house history. Well, Lisa arena is no fucking dummy. So after they take a big group photo she as Erica. Jane goes, you're a real bitch to Lisa Renna, when you gave her back, that Bonnie and has Erica, Jane. I'm not afraid to be a bitch and Erica Jane's like white throwing me into it. So then they're like, oh shit. This is getting awkward. And meanwhile treats like I really just want to approach Camille about what a bit. She was to me. She wasn't grateful that I came to the wedding, and she did a very disturbing audit colon. People magazine mind you where she was kissing. Lisa van pumps. Pass. And everyone's like, now we're not talking about that tonight. So they get into it and. They sit down and finally leaves a Renna, aka CRA, Jane goes, you know what? I think we always had a lot of fun together. And I'm like really fun together when you broke the glass and through hundred face and said, don't you talk about my husband in Amsterdam, and Kim's, like, yeah, I guess we could move on. And the fans are like, yeah. Move on. We want to see Kim Richards come back. That's what we really want. And meanwhile, Boy, George is going to have a movie written about him. You guys. It's the life style life story of Boy, George and I wonder if it will include when he was high on drugs, and he kept a male Hooker chain to a bed for about three and a half days, and did some I think he did some prison time for it. Anyway. PK is a producer and to read posted it. Can you believe case going to be a movie producer for boy? George mind you so good for them. What is start a family is a completely personal decision? Some women want kids now. Others want to wait ten years. No matter what your plan consider taking an at home hormone fertility test for modern fertility. I wish they had this back when I was in my twenties, because my sister had issues getting pregnant, I did not. But I didn't know how long it would take once I started to try in my thirties, modern fertility gives you the knowledge and information you need to plan ahead all for just one hundred and fifty nine dollars the same test cost over one thousand at a doctor's office. And you. Can use a FSA or HSA plus modern fertility ships, your kit to your home, and send you your physician reviewed results in just a few days. All tests are conducted in a C, L, A, certified lab and modern facilities team physicians and clinical advisors leads some of the nation's top for Tilleke clinics visit for Tilleke dot com slash juicy take their for Tillery quiz and get twenty dollars off your modern fertility test. That's monitor facility dot com slash juicy to take the fertility quiz and get twenty dollars off modern fertility dot com slash to see. Now, let's get into I think one of the best episodes of the real housewives of New York. And I just wanna say the way on I four years sobriety. But nobody else on this cast, Ken, get sober. I hope Bravo knows that. I hope the girls. No, it, it is. What is driving this show? And this cast, oh my God. First of all, Sonya came to the money can't buy you class rehearsal. And apparently, she was uninvited and Luan was like here I am trying to learn my lines and sing my songs and Sonia's they're jumping up and acting like she's on. I don't know what and Sonia is like what you gotta sing at what, what are you? What Lou Lou. Lou was she. I don't know what she was. So then Luan said that she thought might maybe she was on something and Sonia was like, I'm not on anything. I'm just always happy. I'm just always happy. So they go to Jill will. I mean dirigiste is lighting the Rockefeller Christmas tree. And, you know, she loves Christmas is always, like, welcome to the buck, and she gets up there and she goes, I made it nice and the light to tree goes up and gills Aaron shows up. And they put writing at the bottom, and they wrote, Jill to rent, his friend. I thought that was I understand if we're watching it, we only know to render, but they got it's like it's just like an F you to the Bravo watchers because we know who gills Aaron is why couldn't they just wrote gills Aaron. Like I don't think they had to write to run his friend that could have just written chills. Aaron, like she's a TV personality like if it was share, would they write share during his friend or would they just ride share or they're not, right? Share at all? I mean when they throw boy, Georgia up there do we do. They write PK's client anyway. Gills Aaron should up. And she goes, you know, it's Joe Zahren. It's beautiful, and that was about all that she got seen. So now they go to the Miami house, which is such an amazing house. I mean so much better than the horrible Columbia house that Tinsley put together. I don't know obviously production puts all these houses together, but they finally got what they. Deserved. And it's gorgeous, and it's fabulous. And some people are like, why are they in Miami? Which is like a our, to our flight from New York City, when all the other girls go, like halfway around the world to Europe and everything. And I'm like, I think is the New York girls. Bethany just like yeah I'm not I'm not leaving my daughter for ten days. I'm not I'm not either. Find something close by our not going. It's miami. Oh, forget it. And so they get to go for like three days in Miami. It's absolutely gorgeous, right. When they get the sonya's just going in strong. She's just drinking the drinks, and there's this guy named Ted or Taj, she doesn't know he tries say, it's Ted. She goes, I like Tosh better. I think you'd be taught. And then Ramon is like, hey Todd. We don't really kind of we kinda great to could help me on packed by clothes because I have, like a lot of really cute things such truly good legs. Like you know what I was thinking for dinner, you know what just like show off the lakes and then like a little bit of Cleveland. What do you think tasha? And I don't know if Taj was gay, or straight, but he was definitely gay after this weekend. If he was thinking about being straight, he's like, no, I'm not going to be these ticks were. So, so he helps them continue on, and then they're getting finishing getting ready in the bathroom. And tensely is like in her cocktails, too. I mean, she's having a good time, but she never gets, like Messier means she probably just like a little emotional, and cries about Scott. The coupon king. Well Sonia is just having a blast. And she's like I'm ready to have. So let's have, and she's in the bathtub. And she starts to undo her pants, and she said, I've just got a p here in the bathtub and tens is like, oh my God. In the past maybe wanted to take a bath in that. And so just like you don't like to go out and see some like hot guys after I really heard. There's some hot guys in Miami at I really will cut a great and I got these new poops these Great Lakes that have always had and then they go and they start to have dinner now. Meanwhile, Bethany shows up and she's like I've been in three states in three hours. What, what the fuck look at me. I look a mess. I don't even know what to do. Who am I what am I doing what what's going all of a sudden you? What's the mess here? Okay. She's going to sit in a tub. Okay. Let me go get my hair done. So proof shows up, they start doing her hair, but she arrived late. So everybody else starts having dinner, you know, luanne is sober. And she while they were having seven to eight drinks she was doing laps in the pool, so they all sit down to eat and. Meanwhile, though, to Rienda is telling the guy how to make a great Mojo. And, you know, at the secret is a little bit a sparkling water with the rum, and the mint. He's like, okay, so they go to start to eat and Sonia is hugging. You know, the waiters and the Taj guide, our entire silicone, silicone nipple covers. This is like covers a Holtet that was out, and she starts eating out of like the serving bowls and they're like, that's for everybody. We're all sharing the food, so she's drinking. And all of a sudden, she's like, you know, I found out that lamonica made out with Harry Dubar hairy was my guy and show is Tom and you took my guy Lewis police. You're not going to bring that up Sonya. You're not gonna bring up. You're not in a great state. You're not going to bring up Tom. Oh, please. You're not. No. You took my guy. You're a slut and you slept with him. And everybody sleeping when my guys and, you know, there's nothing left for Sonia, and it's like dude. Arinda. You don't touch the Morgan letters. Everyone's like what is going on, then she gets up, just, you know what Lewis I don't I don't really know. I just tried to keep my voice for my show, and I don't know what's going on with this show that, you know, you become a diva it's all about. You and fuck you. Louis I go. Okay. I'm out of here. Yeah. What go away? What's wrong with her? And I have to say I was a hundred percent on Lou inside like. Anyone watching this, you don't want if luanne did misbehave any time before at the table, she was perfectly fine. I mean Sonia is had twenty five drinks. She goes up to a room and she starts to unpack her own clothes. She doesn't bother Taj your or whatever his name is. And Bethany comes down to is what, what, what's, what's the problem? What's problem and Sonia's like no she doesn't? I bet lose Fred from the start. It's the plotted her, I endure earned his like an I told her at. She keeps talking about me, it hooked cabaret act. My lawyers going to write a lotta he's going to write a letter. And I mean, Meanwhile, I don't know if Bethany and gets a little buzzed, but she's ready to have some fun. So she goes, no, she has to know she's been a nightmare. She's totally. She's been a nightmare. So she works up in Luang goes, hey, what's going on? And she has I'm here to talk. And I'm not here to listen. Oh, god. Really? Right. Yeah. You know what you really changed a lot you. And she's like okay well. Sonya's wasted like let me just, you know, it's hard enough to be here and not drink, and let me just go to bed. She's always saying, all I'm saying is that no one wants to go to your cabaret show five times in one month? Nobody wants to go and she's like, all right? Well, then don't don't. Okay could not have hope you have a good night. So come back and Sonia is sitting there and Ramona goes, let's go out. Let's could meet some hot guys. We're going to go out we're going to go out and Bethany is like I don't think so. Nya is ready should go out anywhere, but Barbara would like to go and oh my God. It is the most uncomfortable moment. It's almost like she passed out invitations in the second grade toward party, and, like skipped a seat of desks. It was just like. You really really just kind of wanted to bond with Tinsley like, really just don't have a lot to cover. We have a lot to talk about and then just an investing like I'm dying right now. Dire. He's like Ramona acid asp asp bar refuse to go. Okay. Beth and you fight barbeque do you want go out right now with Tim Salita? That's okay Ramona, I'm fine just sitting here. It's fine. Okay. Great. All right. Come on, let's go. And then they show her fall and they think that you hurt herself. Bethany she ain't up Sonia. Just falls off the table. 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Just visit vita Cup dot com slash juicy. And learn more and save twenty percents off your order today. That's the I t a Cup dot com slash juicy. I'm so excited because I have a guess that you guys have been asking for for a couple years now. She came out to LA just for me. No, she didn't. But we squeezed in this interview it is radio legend hilarious, girl, late life, lesbian and stocks. He's good friend Taylor. Striker. First of all, how old are you look? So young you think I look? I mean thirty two thirty six okay? Okay. I thirty two because I'm like you have to be over thirty with what you're telling me, but you have a very young face. Thank you. Well, I like I tell myself that I keep the weight on its for the for the baby Chubb, so. Works by my mother always said to grass your face. Matters. More to you some going with the face of four now. Yes. Yeah. My summer, not Bod is it's for my youthful energy that I sacrifice it for. I also hate working out, and I'm lazy shit. And I like junk food so that your life. Right. And like I'm with the personnel that doesn't care lead, like, they're, they're chubby chaser. So it's just like it encourages me to eat Chinese at three in the morning. It's if I want to get into that whole thing, because your love life's varies choosy, too. So how did you get chosen for this job? I just graduated from college, I went to college, so they like they can aesthetic learning. They teach you how to get into the biz right away. Okay. And my best friend, and roommate at the time was the receptionist serious. That's a pretty good. So we would party with, like a lot of the guys that worked on, like shade forty Forty-five. Yeah, for we went Vegas with them. It was. Was those are the dark years, but still fun. And then we heard through the grapevine that they were launching radio for women by women under the umbrella of cosmic radio. So they were looking for female talent that could represent the brand, but like didn't overshadow the brand, right? So they were looking at Mandy Moore, which is so random. And they're like so many he's not gonna work out. So I wonder if she regrets her decision she's not even doing anything now. Good point now, only the biggest show. Right. She'll be. So I'm sure on that she was, like, why didn't they take that Sirius radio show or forty five thousand dollars a year? Man. Yeah. The beginning was rough those negotiations were no fun. But I so anyway, so they asked my roommate to audition, and they had seen me at a party with her. And I guess heard my voice and said, why don't you bring your friend in because they had another successful show? Do you don't give to enrich their from? Okay. So they were on maxim radio this guy, friends. So they were like why don't you just why don't we just like recreate what they have their real friends? You guys real friends. She's good on air. You have a good voice. Let's give it a shot. Yeah. Two nd for like I don't know a couple months, a few months, like written auditions record audition. What's interesting is like it used to be you've a voice Haredi. Auto now that everybody has a podcast relate. It doesn't really matter what your voices. It's not even a thing. I'm obstinately. I do think people will say, I like your voice, it's relaxing, or that person choices to whiny. I mean some people I do hear that, about other things. And I think, you know, in some ways, it doesn't really matter. It's really, I think about the content and the following, but yeah, it's interesting that, that kind of just like no whatever says that anymore now, it's like, well the thing and it's like not a thing, you know, like, like, ten fifteen years ago that would have never happened and what have been like what your social media following. Yes, you know, and it would have been like let me hear your voice, and, or would you like to read? Do. Relate? So we auditioned and I ended up getting it. She did not get it, but she's okay because she is Nicole Ryan from the morning mash up on Sirius XM hits one on channel two. So bitch is fine and wasn't all the money. They're now now, they're all all of a sudden, they're paying was it weird between the two of you that you've got it. And she didn't soups weird. And she was so amazing considering because I would have been such a bitchy brat. I don't think there's a worst story than that, actually that you had the thing you brought your friend, and then they're like, we'd rather just have the friend. Isn't that though? This isn't that always what they say, never bring a friend to an audition, because they'll always get it over you. I never brought friends tradition. But I always thought, what I'd see when I see other girls see their friends at the audition for a long time. I thought my God. They're so nice to each other. Isn't this weird that they're both for the same part along with me? But then I realized, especially for acting not so much for the radio. Oh, but for acting. It's like either your it or you're not. So it's like it really isn't a personal thing. It's like you, you're the vision that they thought or you're not, and you shouldn't really take that personally. But in radio. Yeah. But like, but yes, but, like with with radio and hosting comedians until I think it's a little more of a personnel where you could just bring a few more elements to get the job. So we'll jokes on me 'cause she's kicking my ass and making fun as much money. I had a situation that kind of happened and I had to be a Christian about it. Really what I agree. So when I was on Chelsea lately, she had a deal where they could, like pay for a couple of pilots year hundred Chelsea so originally. She had this. She thought it would be funny. If there was a show with Ross Mathews guy, Brandon because there to kind of different types of gay guys. Yeah. Okay. And but they're two gay guys. And so I was like he was my office mate. He came in, like two years after I'd been there. So I was a little bit like all right. Well, good for you. I'm not a gay guy. So. Right. You know, and then they call him in, like two years later, and they know yes. And they know they tell me they call me and they listen, they don't want the two gay guys. Now they want Ross with a girl, and we thought like you'd be great because you guys have a chemistry and everything, and I go, okay, we'll have you told guy like not yet. So then I go back into my office and they're like, call up guy. Has to go and then they basically say that. So then he had to come back and he was, like, you know, hey, if it was going to be anybody, and I'm not a girl, and if he wants a girl, your girl, and I'm like I said, I, but if they one of the gay guy, I'm the like, okay. So then we start to do the pilot Ross by an absolutely love Ross. And we're trying we're additioning like who's going to be are like news guy because it's going to be a mini Chelsea lately, basically. Right. With the two of us with, like, news stories and stuff. And this guy comes remember who he did his thing, and he was good. And I'm like Selena Rossio. Do you think he's gay or not? And he goes straight, but with a history of abuse, I like ride, laughing like like this is the funniest thing ever. So we do it. We do the pilot and I felt like for me. I was really rushed because I still had to produce Chelsea lately, but he was like at the offices all day, like working on his stuff. And so then, literally that. Day. Like I still like hadn't had my put. It was it was good. I remember I showed my mom, and she was like, like I could tell she like love it. But I, I was like open to, I remember they showed me the graphics and I thought they looked really cheesy, but I didn't speak up, yet things like that. Because I'm like, who am I to say what my show graphics should look like government? You have opinion about your show, that's going to represent you right now. I don't wanna hurt this guy, graphic guy who drinks wine at his desk, and it's like just annoyed that I even stopped by. No. I don't wanna do that. So, so anyway, time goes on time because I'm pretty sure like, you know, the longer it takes to here. It's not good. I get the call at the end of the day. Hey, can you come into my office, and I was like okay, and they're like, well, and my EP I like him, but he was not the sweetest bedside manner. And he's like he goes. Okay. So they're not going with this show, and that kind of figure that he's like, you tested horribly. Oh, well, we don't have to talk about this now. The show. On happening. So thank you put Ross did it. So they're just going to pursue a show with Ross alum. Businesses, something like that. I go, okay. Now I love Ross. And I love to this day, so I'm like fuck. So that I'm start to drive home. And I have to call him to congratulate him. Hi, I'm E. And he goes, I think I just want to say that if me doing this show, convinced them that you can do a show by yourself than I did my job because you can do a show by yourself. And, and he's like, well, I disagree of like an griping about, like I disagree. I think they made a mistake. But anyway, it's but it was just really that was such a weird thing. And it's like there's nothing you can do. No. You know, and it's like giving that at your friend. So, right. I mean like on the outside, of course, they're going to be a dream Elba because I want, I want his show to go on him to hire thirty people, I want to get a bigger thing, and then it got worse. No. I just heard what a worst part. So the raw show starts going. Okay. And they're having like, you know, people pop in, like just like we had panelists but at different crew, not the same as Chelsea different people. So you could see different faces on that show. I think I'm like remembering this year, it was like once a week, it was in our studio, but it had a different set. And it was like it was like a circular table, high up seeding thing. Yes. Yes. A different than ours. And, and that same EP still wishing. Well life comes in and goes. So what we need for Ross. You know, it's like a co host. And I'm like other coming back for their go. We need a younger, Heather McDonald. No. Yes. I know this business is we need a younger, Heather McDonald. You know anyone like you, but younger that can do all the characters and are obsessed with pop culture. Do you know who Raba verdict is no right? Robert Verdy was like big in the fashion world. He's actually has, like a Cami over the devils where product which means the world to me, just he's hysterical. He's super talented. He's amazing. He's like he's great. And he has such sour grapes, over this industry, because of shit like that he said, I can tell you on dishes, how many times they're like, we need younger Robert verdict. He's like I'm talking. I'm like dude gave some weight and you'll be good. But I. The reason I thought that was hopefully is years ago when I was like twenty nine mid twenties, and I'm trying to get an agent. I'm talking to this guy who poses a comedian. But it just really wanted to fuck me. But he didn't think I was funny goes, Heather, you or we star one day in the breakdowns, it's gonna say, Heather McDonald, type just trust. And I'm like, oh my God. This moment happened in such a fucked way, though. It stung though. You're like, oh my God. I've made it. So now they're working on David. Sorry, what is why am I blanking, David Letterman lawn hair blonde slaves snowy spayed seek fate, God. That's weird David Spade. They're working on his new show, which I'm thrilled and I think it'll be funny and it's comedy central and he loves pop culture. Yeah. And they're looking to hire. Now I at this point would not want to be a staff writer on the show. I love to make an appearance whatever but. He wrote be again, saying, you know, we need Heather McDonald, type that like, you know, loves pop culture, and blah, blah, blah, blah, and I go unfortunately, she doesn't exist. Years ago. Okay. I'm grooming my thirteen year old too. A little too young right now. Okay. I've not found her yet, but I'm happy to meet her, and we can do a mother daughter wine country show. Is this Lebanese have kids, I don't patch about yours. Yes. Because some free shit story line going this getting back to, you know, you're wrong story, but it's a story, I've never told so congratulations to me. Okay. So, so you then start doing the thing, but it was weird with your friend. When I go wicked skinny, it was the best. I was barf out of legend like so much ten shields you walk in and is it just like refrige- shut out of the room? No talking a note saying what you owe for the cable. What is it like she was always fucking cable Bill? So that was fun. Civility, that's another thing, kids don't have to worry about today, the splitting of the bills. What is this Reynaud? Everybody has their own sling TV and their own phone and their own thing. You don't know what it was like when you have to go and be like. I don't have a grandmother in Connecticut. Jesus. It's the good day. Okay. So, yeah. I mean it was it was uncomfortable. She tried really hard to like not be that girl. But cut to like when I did my launch show. It's like not that this means, I think, to some millennials. But, like Natasha Bedingfield was there performing live which was like it was at the height of the hills home. I go to heaven. Natasha Bedingfield store. Tell me so this amazing story time this about you. We're getting back to, you know this is what I do. I make people tell stories about themselves. Okay. Chelsea's birthday and she decided to invite every single person that's been a guest on the show, and we're all going to Mexico and Natasha Bedingfield was suddenly like her best friend, and she sang happy birthday or something. And then we all get in a car like van that was taking us to a nightclub. Yeah. And the two booker's of the tonight show that eventually came on our show, where there and one of them knowing that she was in the car jokingly but she didn't realize it. Joke was like who sang happy birthday like that was awful what hall, but it like totally didn't go over and she was like furious. She takes herself very seriously. I remember we interviewed her, and she was like she was fully engaged planning her wedding, and she was refusing to talk about it, because she had a deal with people, you got it. Yes, it's so crazy and I'm like, how to deal with people to I- Gretchen Rossi has a deal with people that her baby had pleased, Tom. You're falling Gretchen Rossi's baby journey. I'm not I have to I didn't even she was pregnant, she got pregnant, she'd been tr-, she'd been on Dr law like three years to talking about her fertility dirty so happy that she is she and Slade sleep. She in Slade are the nicest people you'll meet at a part of social event have heard their amazing. And so, but you can't help but tell the truth about what they come off. I mean, it's, it's a it's a fun thing to watch. Okay. But yeah. Genuinely if you're going to see them in a cocktail party, they're going to be so incredibly nice, they're going to be fun, like with me. They're always fun to talk to. He has a huge camera with incredible filters and stuff. And he'll take photos of her throughout the night, and you can get in it, and you can get the same face. So it's like he's he, he is the tie. He created Instagram husband. If there is like a history of script has its slate. Okay. Now, they've never gotten married, whatever finances ex wife's, I don't know but she got pregnant, and her whole career now is incredible social media products and all that. So I don't hate it, but this baby. And if I suddenly like had, like a Mary type of old mom, I suddenly got pregnant, I would be all over the free shit, too. I would be like this baby is going to work. Yes. Going to be exploited I think you could explode a baby till about four in that end of Iran. Ironic. Down. I'll give shed. No. It's like who cares about your blocks? But like trollers and close bottle, nipple cream and. You know like focus on that for a few years. Okay. Well, she's like a little Barbie doll anyway. So the baby shower was a wedding, and they did it for people. And it is like the videos that she showing and she's good. She gives everybody credit that gave her the stuff, but it was they do a mother father to the baby in the tummy dance and smoke comes out from the ground. Yes. She's in a full length coun-, there, twirling around, and even some a wedding baby show gig, I filled it or something that baby shower. What? Amazing. That's what it takes to get people deals. I don't I don't hate it. Okay. So go on. She had a people deal go who to people deal. I don't even feel. Oh, right. Okay. So like it was a big to do. Right and poor. Nicole sitting there at the receptionist desk as the receptionist and she's mild through it. And she, you know, she was a fucking champ. Okay. And then we easy, but we did come up with this plan where it was like in the very beginning. She was like, how 'bout you don't do it? And just like threatened to knock do it. And I was like I have no power, not do it without your best friend. Yes. I was like, I think I have more, first of all, I quit my job. So I am now jobless second of all in. This is my only option I said, second of all, I think I have more power going in there in like ruining. All my auditions. And then being like see can't do without Nicole with the chemistry tests. Yes. So that's what I did for a while. And they said to me Taylor, we know what you're doing Nicole going to get the job and I was like damn and who'd you get a got this girl named. Tia and she was a frigging nightmare, and she still like a person that exists like, hey girl. Hey, but, like, we did not get along. Well, she had constant migraines bless her heart does. That's a real thing diarrhea, but she, well, yeah, my fake thing, but she was like pop, and like some heavy duty prescription pills like on there, and then falling asleep, and I was like Queen, and then one of equal billing, and I was like, listen I will carry your like migraine e ass on my back, but you will knock it to sit here and talk to me, like my boss, so we did not get along. I would how long did that LA I don't even know that was all blur. I went through so many Kojo's there's while we're doing in Alba myself, and then I finally found my co host Kenny, he was my producer we end up being coz for like six years together seven years. And we built us an incredible show with this amazing audience. And then then that became the good morning with Taylor. So that was wake up a Taylor. And then that was like it was, I think it was still it was for a while. It was still affiliated with cosmos. Oh, then that editor in chief left, a new one came in. And then they kind of like it was just like their partnership without us. Like just but it did get rid of cosmic radio, which meant that a lot of us on the chopping block. So I was on the chopping block, my friend. Patrick Maher was on the chopping blocks recognize that name that stocks, these X that's the connection to stop precisely. Yeah. Okay. So that's how you install cement through him was surpassed trek. Yeah, an answer me interviewing, her saucy, then left venom pump for awhile to come to New York. And that's when we became friends, because she had no friends that she was living in the legit shittiest department of ever seen in my life with Patrick. It was the crappiest part MacOS. Did he have a manual and pay us anything a man bun back then? Now he did not. Okay. He just had like long like South Carolina football borough locks. Now. What did you think of his performance last season, as her boyfriend hitting on Lisa Vanna, pumps, s and all he said, and how he'd correct her vocabulary and cringe-worthy? Is the is the phrase, I have to the Patrick you knew. Or do you think he got about it? He I can't say he got a bed at it because I really do believe that what you give is what you give on a show. We hit like make him sexually absolutely savannah. Right. Yes. But to no, Patrick, he's always bro mode. You know. And that was like his stick on the air and it works for causing radio because he was like the perpetual frat, boy, they ever wanted to be like mystery to buy and fuck. Right. So that was his stick, but he like sticked, Lisa Vander pump. He was like, no understanding his audience student. I mean right. It's like she's the Queen. She's the boss, like everyone worships her, we, we the audience all look up to her right, and your degrading her. And that's like an even though you might think that she's like a controlling manipulative bitch that sells. Rose stories to rid our line. Just say see, I caught still confused. She passed that test. You now. I know. And wasn't it wasn't it crazy that Kyle's daughter's friend what? Kyle's daughter's friend was robbed and all the construction workers went there. Yeah, I love exact same time. Just say production told you. Yeah. Just admitted so semantic but yeah, so but I think he didn't realize that talking so down here. I think he thought like. I think he had a bad impression of her like as a boss. Right. Maybe he had heard to the grapevine from other cast members in his relationship was dossey that they also felt that way times. So, I think in his money was like obstacle because the boss, but it's like it didn't play off that well, and has happened to his life sense. I honestly don't know. We the last time we spoke was it was. Kabul gate, when dossey had the meltdown like fairy sex city style. Oh, yes. When I go trip, yes, and she went with Rachel, Brian yet, and I loved their Instagram's stories. I know Rachel, so I was like this is so brilliant. Because it was so good into the bedroom with a roses that she did the sexist city movie from know what she's like this is going to kill her. I love that. You, you know, the best of the situation entertaining for all of us. Yeah. Even though her heart was breaking right before they we're supposed to capo Stasi Patrick. He was like the epic fight, which was like that was their MO like. Yeah. No. That was his MO. I will I will say like a Patrick being friends with him. We never we had one fight, but that fight was epic. And I was like, oh, man, I would never like I'm happy hanging like screaming back and forth. He's just like, once he has his mind set on something. He had his mind set on it like it's like you did it. And there's no talking about it. And like you just have to hope it comes and self down or else like it could go on for eternity. Yeah. It was like we like when I got on that one. But with him it was like, oh, wow. We're not going to be friends anymore, and then we were able to recover, I think, with the help of starchy actually, he was really mad at me because I was like shooting a reality TV show with Nicole from warning from from serious, my friend, the front desk was that it went absolutely nowhere like most things in this industry, but he was so pissed that we were doing rally. Eats reality TV so much. Yeah. He was like, I can't believe this. He said, I see this juicy scoop. He's like, I would suspect this from Nicole, but not from you. And I was like, what to be on a reality TV show like it's like exposure for what you're doing. Yeah. And he was just so like piss, and he was like their stocks he's context, I was like sauce who's in the background the streaming like I don't care. I don't care like she's friends with people who are producers on Vander public. Their job is to cope with other shows, he was just so. I think so. The venom from producers pursued you to do like a sizzle real. Well, what happened was when stocks, moved to New York and was totally like off? And we were like what are you going to do? And so I said, why don't you pitch to Bravo? I don't know. But it's like when he came to the city. New York will like an hour show on series because, you know, the president will give a show to any celebrity and you can do an hour week like would force you the podcast. Right. I can't anyway do an hour and then it should be about you working with your boyfriend working with your friends. I'm your friend and I was like executive producer and pitching it to her. She was like that's great. And one of the producers was there singing there for it. That was like one of ten ideas. Right. And then, of course, she ends up going back to pump, 'cause they're not letting you cargo and that one Purdue was like I still wanna do that radio show, even without starchy would can we pursue that? Who can we like cast? And so we started working on it, and Nicole cousin Nicole, brought me into Syria. So I'm always looking for opportunities to pay it back to even that score. You got it. So we started with this reality show together and Patrick was fucking so mad at me. I think he was mad because I think even those dos who is back on banner pump he was trying to, like, not turn her. But like to her relatives bad. So then if somebody who's good me is also in the world of bad than he's losing the battle against the biggest brand in the world, which is reality television. He just sounds like a hitter. He bitter jealous hate around TV. It's like it couldn't like it's that simple. He hates watching it. He had on eight Patrick and stuffy, I interviewed her for one Vander pump jacks. And then she said, oh, my God, I'm such a fan of the show, and then we're also huge fans of Patrick show. I think he's my soul mate, and then months later he was like this. Hot blonde chick is deeming me on Twitter. And he said, she's from some Vander pumping. I said is named saucy, and he said, yes. And I said date her because I wanted to be her best friend. I did. Social climbing at its best. So that's what I got out of working at Sirius XM radio. Where's Patrick Silva show? So he's still was Sirius XM. He's in sports now. So when causing radio was done, we got we got moved over to stars which, like Jenny McCarthy's on new knows but they weren't on it, yet it was like stars with a whole lot not no stars now. I what I Patrick is one of those people that I put in a pool with not the worst the worst of the reality show. Men fallout is Jason Hoppy. He is king. The he's coming back girl. King be most hated person. What do you mean coming back going back to the hills reboot, don't Jason Hoppy is Bethany frog. Jesus sorry. Sorry excited about the hills. I'm sorry chasing, Hoppy, Hoppy is Beth is, is the worst ex-husband in the world because he is have you been reading their transcripts from there with the latest. Oh, God, the one was that his lawyers were trying to bring in footage from the show. As evidence and the judge was, like, no it's edited like like him and his lawyer just seem like ridiculous Carney, folk. Well, they brought up the Instagram followers for integration more about our Instagram followers, and it's like Instagram is part of our business. Yeah. Shut up. And so she's like no there. I have my Instagram follows. Yeah. Who, who by my staying exceeding your old jeans and L which you're a fuck, so yeah. So, I feel like Patrick too, because I imagine Jason, Hoppy out at a bar, okay? In New York City, and whether he hits it off with girl or not that God forbid, we find one girl in New York City, that has never heard of real housewives her grander sister will. Yes. And then she'll be like, who are you, bringing to who you're bringing to Father's Day? I mean this great guys names, Jason and going through really ugly divorce. But oh, that's great. Well, I'm so happy for doing doing. There comes that face ever. The sisters going to be like you cannot date Jason. Hi. We'll take your red skirting girl and claim it as his own. Not. And so with Patrick, but Patrick is opposite because he's not like I feel Jason is so like Banou milking hurt. You think though it's out or dating. Somebody, there's going to be enough girls that are in this age range, that they're going to be like you cannot date that dick. Like we watched him be a dick. Yeah. I'm sure our girl on our favorite show. I'm sure, but the thing is that. So when people ask me about this because he is I haven't talked to him. So haven't talked to him since the whole thing happened with dossey and him break. That was the final break up. I was there for many break-up many fights to ups. But that was the final one, and I remember I, I texted him, and I was like, hey, I'm just reaching out this was in, like she was doing her Instagram stories, and like shit was being covered on like Daily Mail rifle like TMZ everywhere as I was like, hey, like, boo just want to see how you're doing. And he wrote me back, like I don't even know what you're talking about. And I'm like, sir, like if you want to say to me, like, for whatever reason I don't trust you. And I'm not gonna share my intimate like emotions with you. I'd rather have just like say that to me, but, but he was like he was like he was jaylo who he was like, what I don't even know what you're talking about. And I was like, okay well, when you're ready to a little who, when Mariah Carey was asked if who jaylo like she's like, g loo we was like break up, what I don't know what you're talking about. I was like girlfriend of like a gazillion years are your this is. It's done. It's on the news was not really like acknowledging it. So I was like, listen, when you wanna talk like I'm here. And well that was a while ago. So I wouldn't say, like we're not friends, but I mean, I guess I picked a side or I yeah, I I lean heavily more towards the girls. I but I've, I've always said like, what you saw on that show was a person who doesn't like TV and didn't want to be on the show on a rally television show. Right. And he was acting out. It was. Like the worst version of him like a bad kid, and it was like a bad day. It was like the one fight that we ever got into the worst fight that was his entire season. Kim fighting with everybody in his worst fight. So I can't say he got about edit. But I will say he was just like that's not him from three sixty perspective. Let's good to hear sex is really important. And you might think you know, at all, but you could even learn more. That's why I loved discovering OMG. Yes dot com, because it is a sexual pleasure research website. They partnered with researchers at Indiana University, and the Kinsey institute to distill the wisdom of over twenty thousand women ages eighteen to ninety five to find out what actually makes pleasure better. 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And then on the weekend, they call you when they fire you and they never let you come back and do goodbye show. It's oh yeah. They would fire people at Chelsea lately, how they whoever was getting fired. They wouldn't tell this person. What they'd tell everybody else? It's you might wanna leave earlier today on a Friday and then early would leave right as everyone was leaving then they'd call the person in the office over. Why do I have to be so like made these people, I think it's an HR thing like stealing stuff, they don't want it to be embarrassing. They want someone to do a seem. So with everybody. Yeah. With everybody being gone. Then you can't like throw a C and you just have to, like leave, right? So I don't really blame the way it's done, but it's you know. With would for that was getting fired. It was like that day she comes in and she's like, I think winning fired. I'm like there is no way. No way. What are you talking about? She, but she had gotten little seeds in the last six months of she hadn't shared with me. Yeah. You know of like you don't seem happy that kind of stuff so that his. I'm really happy. So I was a new job ever. Wheel noon, real like, you know, sorrow after all of that drinks, like we were like waiting in the parking lot. Like we were like like at beginning. But so they call you. And they say Daley Ling. Hello. I'm you hell trying to scratch you. Hello. I got a text. Hey, can you. Call me in five minutes. So I was driving out to the berkshires to get to advertiser for the show, which my boss new and sent me off be like good luck in the advertiser, get dick anyway. He was my boss of like three months, when like, but did you stop Durand us on the way home girl? You know, I wanted to like to rent a, I need something to distract me from my life. I'm sure the buck was. All of them, by the way, your Barbie doll think I mean girl, I can't I love you have created a nightmare, so. So this house is so intricate, who sewing them? So I had a C scooper that, like, first of all, she just out of the blue mailed me without contact me or anything. My first which was the Lisa Renna leopard duster took it one hundred south and I was like this is amazing. And she's like what about this? And then I started being like a designer where I snapped a photo of Erica. Jane and was like I know this is gonna complicate it as anything. I know that next week, the her sound goes out, and I just would like to feature that air ca Jane moment, like how it was hell Integra jets. She lives in Kansas, where she's a juicy scooper and I mean I it's great. So, like, but I but literally had to like to call I texted her, and I was like, do not worry about Halloween costumes, or skipping this week, hourly Renna as. Come like this woman is going to lose their mind. I'm like, no, no, no. You're like makes you get the blue context. Yes. Work on the reunion. Looks of New York lake next. But whatever, but yes, exactly like, okay, so you're driving to the berkshires cedar in and get the ad out to. Yup. And they tax called me five minutes. So I'm like, I looked at my girlfriend, Taylor, and I said, I'm getting fired your girlfriend who Taylor to yes, so narcissistic, and one of my best. Friends is named Heather, no. Yes. You guys should become lovers. We were freshman year freshman year. She we were two of eight Heather's in class of one hundred by school. Like every Heather from every Catholic school all graduated, there were the only Heather's and then they came to the same school. And it was the Heather litter header hazardous came up. Okay. So you and Taylor, so we're driving, and I'm like, I'm gonna get fired. And you knew that Pitt and yourself. And so I always any warn like this, you're not getting fired. So that's an indication of like how, how much I like I didn't like it wasn't like I set my studio on fire or anything like that, where she's like oh, grow, you'll get violent. It was like you're not getting fired. So what led up to it to play devil's advocate for the company that fired because I think it's the fair thing to do. But so contracts are so detailed in Anchorage in intricate. There we go. And it's almost like yours like how many concerts, have you signed? We're like, do you know everything that you sign like every in and out 'cause I a lot of the things to are there loopholes in the event that they wanna get rid of you companies need to have a reason get rid of you? Right. So if they're looking to get rid of you, and you give them a reason even in the five hundred the contract, they're going to use that. And they're gonna take it in. They're gonna run with it. Okay. That is my interpretation of what happened was the reason what was the loophole, so I like would do you couldn't do a lot of work outside of serious? No podcasting. Like if you want to do like a video series, you hit their approval and every time I got something, they'd say, no, I. Finally got asked to go on the panel for Chelsea. Uh-huh. Like in the very beginning, right? Hold it, actually on it yet. We had radio. People in. We guess we definitely in. There was getting we didn't always have all come. Yeah. So we had like, you know, fun personalities and radio people, too and my boss didn't at the time. So I like eighteen thousand bosses because you know how like corporate America just like management. They just turn them out and. And she I heard through the grapevine through Patrick that he out that one of our bosses was shutting down. All these extra offers we were getting to do, like more promotion, and promote ourselves and does show. I think it was like this. I hate to say this because it's so like girl, but I think it was like a jealousy and competition like she was the boss, but also wanted to be on air. Yes. Of had that, too. And he actually eventually gave herself a show which was fucking terrible. And so when she would air, check me, I was like, go check yourself. What does air check me like they sit down like you listen to the show and critique it like was good? This was bad, and I was like, go listen to your show, and then we'll talk about my show. That's the maybe that's fine. For a disrespectful twad, really like. Okay. So I got to go. So the one thing that could do these, like retreat at the listeners where like with them, right? What else and I did one retreat on my own, but I was actually doing it with somebody who had worked at serious. Okay. And this person worked in a miniature aerial position. So they knew the ins and outs the company, right? So they give they literally gave me a script okay to read like here. Okay, guys, I'm doing another retreat, but it's a different one than before. And here's what's going to be like rented, this is this. And I remember getting the scripting going, oh, this feels like to details in specific. And this one was like, no, like, let me it's fine. And because you the, the company, I would just like okay, well, it must be fine because she would never put any position that would write in jeopardy. And so I read the script, and I guess what I said something to the effect of like, we'll be doing a live show from there. I wanted to live show there, just the why could not have to take off work. That's kind bitch that I am. I'm like such a loser rule follower. But the way it was able to be interpreted. It was that it was like a sweepstakes for the company and they're crazy psycho about any sort of like giveaways. There must be some like FCC regulations that are like crazy anyway. So, basically, it was like you made it seem like we're going to be part of this. We're not. So I was like, okay, so no. I can't just retract my statement, and, or cancel the trip I'll do that against the trip like I'm gonna take a hit financially and they were just like now you bridge contract. So I was like, okay the end. So did you burst into tears burst into tears, I literally kicked rocks like endured, and all like anything in my vicinity of me on the side of the road, called like everybody that's important hysterically cried for four hours. And then I was like to my mom and dad. I was like the scariest call to make you know, because it's like they're just always, so worried about me and like I'm divorced, and then I became a late in life, lesbian, and it's like they're just worried. They're worried. Marry minute, but yes, and so I was like great everything that they're worried about happened like when I came out. They were like you're going to lose your job because you're gay, and I was like mom date to that real quick. So you got married, how old I got married twenty seven okay. Think and then Whittier and a half. And then when did you realize you were gay? About two months after I got separated. Oh, really? Yeah. You really didn't know a girl, I really didn't know but I am. I was raised Catholic. And I've always had says Catholic, it was that I just like like I was like I having sex with guys because Jesus says, you know, 'cause I'm not married because I'm a whore. Like I just I just kept tributing like hating dick to just like God again, in a very not like I'm not like a clearly not about. Right. He was looking greened in me. Yes. Yes. So I thought and I also went through a period of people that like sex were just either had low IQ's or we're fucking liars. And so, I was I'm speaking for all women that hate sex. Meanwhile I was allies Byan speaking to women and give them horrible sex advice. Thanks for the job caused by the. The. Scissor moment happened. No, my God. So funny, sizzling isn't a thing, but we've all tried to grow. Okay. So when did and you are when did it happen. When did you have a moment? So I thought I was going crazy because I was like I finally got the balls to get a divorce. I mean, once you're separated people like I'm sure people would say, oh, you're hooking up. All your separated shut. The fuck up pretty good, sir break up. At least at least ours was, we don't have kids. Now, it was like we're done starter marriage. It was. Yes. Five years starter marriage. I was I, I was in it for the long haul, but it takes a while to get divorced. You know, judges have to sign off and shit. So anyway, he was dating right after we got separated. And I was like, I'm going to be wild Taylor. I'm gonna do whatever woman sleep with all these guys and just like I'm out one night with my friend Taylor. Who is a lesbian softest lesbians, too, harsh, I think, and she. She was kissing a girl, which was fine. We were friends, I had seen her do before. But this time I was like, no. And I got insanely jealous really. And I'm like, oh, I'm just being crazy divorced, Taylor. You know, like crazy separated, Taylor. Like woo. So I let it go because I'm like I'm drunk, I'm, maybe I'm just I want attention, and she's friend. I'm confused. And then it was like, plaguing me. So Finally, I was like, listen, I think I wanna make out with you. And she was like, no, you're straights. You just getting like divorce from a man and this is like, and I feel like that's a story that a lot of. Of veteran, lesbians yet have dealt with where they're like, I don't wanna be your experimental gay moment, and then I'm gonna fall for you and your leave me. And you're not really. So leave me alone. Exactly. Yeah. So she was like, I also lose interest super-quick, and like I'm one of your closest friends right now strip that, so I'm like, okay, okay. But then, like, once I told her that it was like out of the bag, and so she, and she had admitted that she always thought I was very cute. How to crush on me? But like, again, was like, well, she's straight married, so dry the friend. And so then we were on a trip together for a work thing that because she that we met was reworked she shot, so you as for my blog, which doesn't exist anymore, but it's still kinda does. There's like maybe picture from, like five years ago. Go check it out until sugar dot com. But we were on this trip. And so, I basically Harvey Weinstein her and made me shower. Dow getting me, why would anybody ever want to be like, watch me shower? I'm like close your eyes. Don't look at my Bod, but no. We were a trip together sharing a room 'cause I booked it when we were friends. Right. And but then I saw anyway, so that we can it was like let's do this. Let's just do this, so we like let our divisions down and became lovers. Now. Now. Or you drunk at all. I mean girl, always always drunk, not right now, Dr he'll, like, you didn't know exactly what to do. Okay. So if I it was, like, so, okay, I'm never told the story before. So our first kiss was like we were out together, and we're like going to all these places. And so, finally, she's like, okay, I like you. I wanna kiss you, right? Yes. But she wouldn't kiss me until we got back to our hotel room. So we were like out of the clear old, and she wouldn't kiss me, but was like, teasing me. Do you know what I mean, kind of, like we get close me? But like refused to kiss me only going to being barflies just thinking of every two this is like the glue that will keep us together when we hate each other, and, you know, five more years. I know we like on the Uber and I was like, please. Because now and she was like, no, not in the over. But, like we're still like her face was like right up to my face. And I was like I'm dying. Yeah. And then we finally got back to tell and then we like have, like passionate make out session. So it was just like making out like it had been so prolonged, like in that night that it was, like so fucking hot. Then then in the morning it was like, oh, God. Now, what are we going to do? And then I got scared like a thirteen year old and I was like, what do I touch? And like my mouth goes where. So, I was like, yeah, baby step this with me because I'm wicked scared. Like I've always been scarce ex, I'm super duper scared of this axe. So she was very patient. And it was like, you know, it was a law. It took me a long time and lots of different, you know. Learning moment, learning angles. Hank goes to get it down. But I did realize, like, okay, so I'm totally lesbian because, like I like this and I never liked sex, so good for you. Yeah. But it was scary, you guys been together for how long like four years. And so she you were together when you got the firing together when I got the firing. And but that was thing. So I called my parents. But like my parents were all about the divorce. And then my mom was when the outta me with Taylor. She was like, are you in love Taylor? I went home for a weekend. I'm like I'm like I'm in my thirties. I'm a lie to my mom about someone that and I was like, yeah. And my mom like went into creek road. Like I thought I was gonna get grounded and that was like, wait a second. I'm in my thirties, I paid my own Ryan, I paid for myself to come home, like, she don't go by me into massive epic like high style fight, and then I was like just out of my love life. It's not your fucking business. So. Then we didn't talk about it for a while. And then finally, like six months into my relationship. My mom was like, I'm just so sad. You got a divorce. I really thought you would be happy. That's why encouraged it and I was like I am happy. And she was like, well, you never tell me and my dad was like, is it 'cause you're happy with Taylor, and you're not you mom? Don't talk about that. And I was like, yeah, so we all cry until, like the sun rose talking about it. They ask all sorts of interrupt requests like, do you use like strap on, because that's horrifying to us, and I lied to them. No, I actually don't because I was raised by those parents, who like I would feel so, so you don't use stressful. A special occasion though. I mean, we bought we bought one, I was, I was going to give it a try. It was just so fucking scary scary on her. I was really scary in it. The these chunky thighs in like a harness that's just like not sexy. You know, plus I thought we're getting away from the dig dig, this is what I've always thought it, and I'm not to judge anybody really do I used to think that lesbians who solely used a strap on to get off. I feel like you're kind of having your cake and eating agree. Because I'm like a guy who's gay doesn't go. Let me put on my chest plate with my tits. You can come on. My maybe some guys do that are like drug. I don't know. But I always felt like they're not adding a female part like they're dealing with what God gave okay. I bought you a flashlight yet. Like if if you know, like it should be enough with your bodies. But again to his own, it's a huge industry. Whatever makes people happy. Right. Whatever I don't give a shit, where Puritans. Yeah. Not just interesting. Okay. But finally, my parents came around, but they like listen. It's baby steps. And that seemed to people I think here, either people's parents are like, oh my God. We knew thank God finally or the parents are like, oh my God. Pray the gay away, never speak to us. And it's like some horrific like tragic terrible story but I think there's a lot of us it's a smack dab in between. Well for you versus other parents, you know. Mostly with, with other friends of mine, get, you know, like where you hear the story of the guy that says, like, and then I finally told my mom mom, I'm gay just like, I knew it for life, I think, with your story, there was no hinting along the way. So it was probably overly big shock that. Yeah, he just had to like, adjust your mind to delay, and I gave her that grace period, you know, because when I talk about I wanna talk about honestly, but I always feel bad people like your mother, and I'm like, no, she's the fucking best like she probably won't she probably loves Taylor more than she loves me. She loves her new daughter, tailor law loves me more than my husband. Maybe I should stop telling him that. I give them a complex. You know, I'm like, twitching not worried like if something happened. Ginny still your writing me for lunch. Yeah. Right. Not a problem at the bed, but that'll be like Ryder died, Taylor Donahue for life. But so I kept it. So it was like six months really bad with my family. Then it was like six months, kind of, like they were baby stepping into in a good way. And then I'm like I have to go on the air. It's been a year my audience. I a secret for your. So they're like you're divorced. Are you dating? What's going on? I was like, I don't know. And I share everything with my audience. So I felt like I was lying, and I hated that feeling. And my whole brand is like be authentic BU. You I'm right. I'm like fucking myself over and now so I came on the air and it was so. I thought it felt so good. And then I immediately burst into tears and said that was the biggest mistake I made I should have not done that I should have kept it us in how much time between coming out on your show and getting far year. Remember my mom was really worrying. She was like, I really worry that you're going to threaten your career. And I was like, mom, that's kind of not right on it all. And spent any distri if anything it probably gave me an extra year like I'm hoping to come out as lesbian, when this show starts to take a little well worked for me. I will bless I will be here to be your lesbian life, lesbian. I need like, oh, I need to gonna brand stories that are start fight with. Getting a girlfriend, because I got to come up some more juicy scoop, literally for Taylor Taylor. Well, that's great. So now so then you started your own thing. Yes. Oh, yes. So it started. Our own thing. We really gonna start looking at other. We'd like means it like other big. When you say we mean your manager you manager. Yeah. We were we had like a meeting starchy was amazing. She sent me immediately up with her podcast company, call her crying, and she was like she was like girl. It's going to be fine. But I had an opportunity to kind of do a serious type based business on my own. And I was like, that's kind of cool. Be your own business owner, and I might as well give it a shot now ails than I can like, like no harm. No foul. Like go back to like these big glamorous like companies and try to figure out a way to get back on air that way. So we launched the Taylor Strecker show, January two thousand and I guess eight teen. Yeah. And it's kind of its infancy, but the audience is always said to me when I meet, but serious. We only pay for serious for you. So you like girls show up improve them. Or prove me, right? Or prove me wrong, actually. Yes. And so rather than like twenty dollars a month. It's six dollars and ninety five cents a month. It's thirty three seven to show. I've done the math. That's like nothing. It's two hours of daily talk and basically, this Logan is and it's the truth. I'm giving you back to show that was taken away from you and me. So if you love the Taylor's for or if you loved wakeup Taylor. Yes, on serious then come over to the tiller sugar show, but then I also have the podcast because I am not, you know, blind to the fact that podcasting is the future and so- taste of Taylor started off, as kind of just like a sampling of the library radio show. And then we just relaunched in October as like an interview, type podcast. But like I'm hoping that, like, I don't know, maybe even give that a facelift, and make it more. I don't know. Maybe I'll just thinking just like yours because I love your I think your financial really, well, you know, it's, it's I think everybody takes a little forever. Yeah. I was like, yes. Sometimes you'll get you'll catch them when that clearly copy do. And you're like, well, that's like, I'm not going to not put out. My genius ideas. Right. So it's like you know, as a saying, would say there's enough in the universe for everyone just listened to my show. I okay. But right now tasting Taylor is like an interview based show, which is a great and fun. But I want also to grow the audience and like have my own storyline within my podcasts, which right now is actually like lacking. So, yeah. Well, I'm so glad you came, and you told everybody you may. So we know what it is. I don't know if there's anything else you wanna as foamy at Taylor stroke, this was so fun to for you gave lots of juice, you really delivered. Thanks cry. Gave new juice. This is a good one. Oh, good. Thank you for having any. Thank you for coming out here. I'm glad it worked out me, too. Okay. Cool. So you guys go to Heather McDonald dot net for all the upcoming dates. Some are stand up at clubs some are live juicy scoop, and then some are Hetherington experience at the city wineries. So look for your city, or the closest city to you get your girls your husband's who ever make a great night out of it. It you will never be appointed and coming to a live show of mine. And I totally appreciate it, and it's my favorite part of this career is doing live shows in meeting guys in person, and I, I'm trying to go out and a big bang. So you gotta come to these shows because these are probably gonna be the last ones four awhile, so I don't want you to miss out, Heather McDonald dot net. Thank you. He. I told you so. Let me go.

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"Mcdonnell has got the chew six when you're on the show. The she talks calling tales from real life data cereal citizens and you'll be a dead end back to the number one tap or three. Listen listen panda mcdonald huge-scale. Hello and welcome to juicy scoop. Well i already recorded such an incredible show for you guys today at the end of last week but there was too much that happened this weekend. So i'm giving you a little update before we get into that. And the first is a mole hung over today. Because i went over to my friend crystallises house who i've met through jeff lewis and she's having a little girls luncheon with myself and mj megan weaver whose another friend of are supposed to come for some reason she didn't and I got their twelve like lady and then at one a m j showed up. That's sadi's from the shah's of sunset and she was not happy with her husband and she said they got an argument and he threw the christmas tree out on the front lawn and it was very hard to get. The tree is out there. I finally got out that it was a fake tree. So because there's a badge the pot of water and everything. So i'm like well it's victory. It's going to be easy to just put back in your house. And if he threw it out there he can put back so i was giving her some advice about going forward the new year. And maybe you guys don't go out enough as a couple. Maybe you should do some couple of dinners. And she wasn't paying attention and she pretty attention because she was filming me which i did not realize but thank god. It didn't come off that bad. I came off buzzed. Because christie was making these very healthy press juice drinks but half of it was tequila and And we were sitting outside and we were a good distance away But anyway. I come home and i look at everybody's like who wait. She getting divorced with happy because she's commenting under her own thing. Divorce my trees in a bush. I'm done and so this morning. She wrote us both and she's like us weekly page six. All these people are asking. And i all i said was look i wanna know. Did the tree go back. Because at one point tommy texted her to smooth things over and he wrote that her banana chocolate muffins that she made were fucking delicious and i go well. He's trying Why don't you just write back. We'll discuss it tomorrow. But what i come home. The tree police be back in my living room. And so i was like took her phone and i wrote that and i started right sweeter things and she's like no. He won't believe it so i tried to help the situation but i think you know like anybody. They got in a fight and i think she was being esi and that's what she's now has written. No we're not getting divorced. I was being messy. So i wanted to give you guys the update because i didn't really know how to respond to it but no it is not like she's moving out or anything serious but you know it's covert and it's christmas so put those two together with the one and a half year old child and i think a lot of women can relate to You know a dramatic fight especially with those two but that was all it was and hopefully the trees back in the house Okay the erika jayne thing is just getting juicier and juicier. Friday night as i lay it on my couch. Kelly who just never stops working. Kelly sent me this post that the pretty mass whose air ca jane post on instagram. I think it was only up there. Approximately for what do you think kelly. Maybe like twelve minutes like thirty minutes. Maybe and so kelly senate to me we posted on juicy scoop obsessed and then she took it down and it is erica. Took it down. And it is a text message collage that she has screengrabbed from eric from tom. Gerardi's phone which appears to be a flip. Phone a nokia flip phone. People have also investigated and seeing that he had the same flip phone just a couple years ago so being older guy he probably finally understood how it worked and kept it way beyond the iphone when everybody else is getting it and it's clear that he is having an affair with this woman and it says Talking about exo exo. They're talking to each other. She's a female. Judge is pretty Like prime mid forties. Maybe fifty tonight was fantastic really but it would be a whole lot better if i were fucking you. That's thursday october fourth. Then it goes on. I can't believe it. Dr matlock is already calling me and asking for the check. And it's that's her plastic surgeon. That's gonna do plastic surgery for her. Good night sweets. You control that temperature tomorrow on the stand you are in the right so i don't know what that's about you know it just clearly. It's her like on a bed looking sexy. Ask my new boyfriend pay if it's if it's a problem. He got big donor. I don't know if she's talking about my new boyfriend being mr girardi. And she's extending that to mr already. It's very weird. There's a full face photo of her though. And then she writes this is justice. Tricia a big leo. She was fucking my husband. Tom girardi and he was paying her bill and pay for her plastic surgery. So erica puts that on there and kyle richards comments receipts and everybody's freaking out and the investigative work that i saw that people did was based on it being like a thursday on august fourth. They went back into the calendar and it was either around two thousand and eleven or two thousand and sixteen. But i think the general consensus is that this. These texts were from august of two thousand sixteen based on her gene style and also that he was still using the phone back then the flip phone so she was already on the show at that point and i think she had this clause ready to go for a long time she obviously had these from probably way back when and decided i have got to put it out there so people know i to victim. Tom girardi because i get into the details in a minute of everything that he is in trouble for. And the main thing he's in trouble for taking money That was loaned to law firm and putting it and and also money from the victims that that was awarded to them. But i went to the law firm. They didn't get their money. And instead it was funneled through her corporation. Twenty million dollars worth in her corporation now. I bet her defense will be. I always got whatever i wanted. I always could spend carte blanche he just told me. Take it from this account. I will always put this money in this account. This is where he play pay. Mikey or mickey the choreographer. This is where you get. Your karen closes where you need to pay the music choreographer or the producer and she can just say hey always just wrote checks from there or i had no idea so anyway. That's really going to be the only defense because we know she didn't make twenty million dollars off of being on real housewives and selling shoe dazzle shoes and some pat. the push body glitter. Which by the way. I got and was sent from her couple years ago and it was pretty nice body glitter but it wasn't twenty million dollars worth of body glitter so And dick sucking lips of lip liner so a lot of trouble and i. I think it'll be weird. I don't i definitely think her days of performing and doing that. It's expensive to obey a. I can't imagine a bunch of gay guys at pride worshiping her. yes queen. They used to when they know that you know there's indonesian orphans amputees and burn victims. That did not get their money. Because it's expensive to be erica. jane. It's really bad and You know and theresa jude is claimed. I did what my husband said. And i didn't know what i was doing and she did a year in prison. So i'm not saying erica. Jane is going to go to prison. But i think she is shitting bricks and then people say. I hope that she talks about this on the show. We'll she she won't have to talk about this on the real housewives but you'd better believe they're filming calls and luncheons between debris and lisa brennan reads like lisa. I mean it's absolutely crazy. I'm sitting there with. Pk and phoenix in jagger. And we're playing a little game of twister and my phone goes off. And did you see this collage. That could posted on instagram of these old text messages. And so even if erica never response to it they are going to be talking about it and it will be juicy for us to rewatch a lot juicier than the panic of running out of toilet paper in my opinion and i think it's going to be. I think we're going to see a lot of it. But i wonder like now when it's all over does does mikey and all these people that the claims do they ever call her again. Do they ever hang out. Are they really. Her friends is it. How is it going to before a lease arena or kyle who have consecutively been friends with her this whole time. Do they stick by her or do they have to worry about their own reputation. I mean it's pretty bad you didn't get in like steal money from some real estate mogul. That already had money. You took it from victims of curric- circumstances and they finally their judgment and then they never received it. Because you put it in the erika jayne account so it's gonna be a pretty hard thing to come back from but Here we go with a little more on that and some details. Because i know there's lots of questions about it. There's so much so here we go when you're a pro. 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His name is john purna. He's forty four and he supposedly a lucci lucci. I don't know how to pronounce his name. So sorry soldier which is a big mob mafia family and he is going to prison for twenty eight to thirty months. He was allegedly hired by the reality star. Demands says ex husband tommy manzo who is caroline man's 's brother in law. She married caroline. Her sister married his brother. So tommy and Caroline's husband are brothers and they run the brownstone Establishment which has all these big fancy events and weddings in new jersey. So supposedly he was hired by. To- tommy manzo. Who is dina's ex-husband to beat up canton. Who she was dating at the time in a sense married he followed him and and associate followed can't into a strip mall in passaic county and attacked him in the parking lot with a slap. Jack the indictment said an in changed purna this man a steep discount for his wedding reception at tommy man's catering hall brownstone which is in patterson a month after the assault now. We talked a little bit about this oughta previous episode. That i had with kim de who used to be on the show as well. Many of the three hundred and thirty guests were members of this lucci fit crime family. According to prosecutors and manzo tommy manzo dina's ex hus- was also indicted on racketeering and conspiracy charges for the attack. And his case is still pending. But his attorney says it's complete. It's a complete exoneration of mr manzo said thomas lawyer when mr purna entered his plea he never once stated that mr manzo was involved in the activity directly or indirectly. So his thing is still pending. This guy did a plea is doing twenty eight to thirty months. He did not say that. Tommy manzo hired him. But isn't that weird. I'll just give you a huge discount oak. Oh you will god thank you. So much god. You're such a great guy. I wonder how could repay you. I could write a card. I could just you know. Be a really nice person to you. But you know what i think. I'm gonna do because. I bet you like your soon to be ex wife's current husband. I bet you don't like them at all. So you know what i'm gonna do to take just do. It's going to be a little secrets gift to you. I'm gonna bring one of my associates and we're gonna beat up your soon to be ex wife's current boyfriend. I'm not gonna tell you about it going to be a cute surprise. Because i'm just guessing you hate this person because you gave me such great discount you through an extra apps you let him have a free bar. That's from do for you buddy. But i'm not gonna talk about it with you and once you hear about it you're just gonna like it's going to give you a warm feeling inside. Basically that's what he's saying is happening. So prosecutors are still going forward in trying to prove that thomas did have something to do with it. What's interesting is they got him for this attack in the parking lot what. I'm what is not included in this article is they were. There was another attack in their home. In which dina was physically hurt is well. I guess they don't know who did that. But that happened after this attack so we'll have to follow that story because maybe they just don't have any evidence for that and they're like you know what we have enough on this strip mall attacks. Let's just not even deal with it because if tied together we can't prove that it was the same person but i think that's very suspicious. That a couple of months or maybe a year later something a whole nother attack happened when they went to new jersey. They left california as a couple went back to new jersey to attend. Theresa's daughters first. Holy communion in which demands out is the godmother. Everybody knew that they were going to that event and then they get attacked in his home. Her boyfriend at the times home. And then that was it. They've never been back since according to kindy very awkward for caroline manzo and her family and And of course dna and caroline still. Don't talk all right you guys. So much is going on with air ca. Jane and tom gerard's divorce. La times did a very thorough article and in a nutshell gonna read some of it. Tom girardi who does these big house. With these big cases with millions of dollars then get re awarded to his clients he takes forty percent of the proceeds to say they may ten million dollars. He would take four hundred. Would that be four. Hundred thousand of the outright. That'd be ten percent of no that wouldn't be that'd be more he would take four million okay so they win ten million he takes four million and then he gives them six million. Okay that's how these things work. Well these people that are the victims. That were awarded. this money. Said they did not get it and there several different cases that are coming after his law firm saying the same thing so they bring him into court tom. Girardi who's eighty one. Years old and air ca jane of real housewives of beverly hills husband and they said why wouldn't everything be paid to the plaintiffs upon receipt of the money and neither girardi or his to colonel fence attorneys head that even responded one lawyer said in court. That girardi has had issues of mental competence. Another asked the judge to order mental health exam so his defense is a little bit like he might be slipping. And i'm gonna talk a little bit about this on my patriot on because i have some inside scoop of where that actually might be true. But i don't think there's any excuse in what he's been doing with his client's money over the last few years he stands accused of stealing millions of dollars from vulnerable clients including indonesian children orphaned by plane crash and burn victim in the pg and e. pipeline explosion. Nearly all the attorneys that have worked for the girardi. Kice firm have left including his own son-in-law last month then erica jane last month on election day filed for divorce which we know. We're in a federal judge froze gerardi's assets and called for the mishandling of the indonesian children's money. That just happened. So all of his assets have been frozen he says the firmly has fifteen thousand dollars and that he had all this money. But he doesn't have any. That's what you're already saying. And the affidavit says that very substantial sums loans were going from the firm accounts to e j global llc which is the company. set up for. Erica jane's performing career and the amount transferred topped twenty million dollars. According to the affidavit affidavit so it became very frustrating according to the c o allen zimmerman to get this money back for these loans because it had gone to erica. Jane's account in which. Tom girardi is the main shareholder. So that is not looking good for her after nine months of demanding this repayment of this loan l. f g filed suit in two thousand nineteen. Alleging that the money loaned to the firm had instead been spent partly on mr gerardi's lavish lifestyle which includes erica. Jane of course so then there was this funny part in the article that said in two thousand and eleven he hosted a party which normally would have like an opera singer or maybe a jazz person for entertainment. There's all these important people of los angeles and judges and instead The they played this video which includes a woman partier pouring liquor on a man's bare chest and lapping up. Wrote a newspaper editor back. Then this person wrote this judges were absolutely beside themselves in. They remember this and the video was part of jane's midlife attempt at a recording career. So they wrote about this before real housewives of beverly hills of how awkward it was that they went to this classy event and the entertainment with erica. Jane's music video and we've all seen her style of music. It's not exactly what we think. Judges would expect to see this type of event so then they refer a lot in this. La times article to her book so and they said right here. Which i remember i. I've talked about this before. There's nothing more i could buy. This is what you told me in my interview as board heather. There was nothing more i could buy. She wrote a memoir. She feared being relegated to a life of shopping sitting on a few charity boards with no consequence and standing silently by my husband's side full of unrealized potential They also thought this was interesting. Gave a lot of money to some democratic politicians including joe biden who came to la in which they raised a lot of money and they hosted him last year at the jonathan club which is a downtown private social club. They also have a beach club. Been there many times. i'm not a member. Then gavin newsom. Who's our governor current governor named. You're already last year to a panel. That evaluates potential judges in la county so he's putting our governor's pretty girardi in a position just last year on a panel. That evaluates potential judges for la county so he's having a stronger relationship with judges and that is to me very interesting You know is it really right but a lawyers like best friends with the judge or gets to choose the judge or evaluate the judge. There's more on that when i do my patriot. New some told the executive producer of the real housewives franchise andy cohen. This is all quotes from the time that jane's has been was extraordinarily generous to his campaigns. So she is my favorite real housewife newsom said with a smile to andy cohen. While i can. I can imagine why. So this There's just all these people coming after them. Ask you for their money from a security company that provided an armed guard at their pasadena estate. He said he's owed fifty three thousand dollars a long beach. Lawyer who had referred cases is suing for nearly four million dollars that he wasn't paid actually gerardi's first wife with whom he split with a nineteen eighty-three. She's revived her case saying that it sat dormant for decades and she is complaining that she's not getting her ten thousand a month alimony payments that have stopped abruptly but i guess is supposed to go until death for her because they'd been married so long and then in in january girardi sign an agreement to pay this family that They're twelve million dollars. That was owed to them that they never got but after paying them one million he stopped and i believe this guy was burned over. Fifty percent of his body so they have sense Put a lien on a twenty three million dollars settlement which she had one for a double amputee injured in a car accident so he won twenty three million dollars for another person but now previous people that have not been paid are putting leans on that double amputee persons money. I mean it's just. They served legal papers to the girardi keith account and his personal travel agent. Erica jane his son-in-law and even the membership director at that jonathan cub club country club. So everybody is getting kind of thrown into this so girardi appeared before the judge to explain what happened to the two million dollars to the victims families and one of the attorneys representing the crash victims said in court that for at least the past decade girardi had been running his firm like ponzi scheme. Wow what they do is when the money comes in. They use that to pay previous creditors and previous clients and then they wait till more money comes in and i guess everything just caught up with him. That was the quote from the attorney in court this week so all that money that we saw on the show. I was like wait a minute. She's going on a trip on the real housewives and she's bringing four glam people that she bragged and said always fly first class from lax to europe. Somewhere puts them up in a hotel. Would she pays for and the neighboring all those outfits in these louis vitton like crates and luggage so you can imagine how much extra fee that is. We she said it's forty thousand a month to look as a gorgeous as she does. We know that these shutting you know. I just recently. Has she like really started making money. But i think he just yeah think he was he. It just like a bernie made off. It's like where do you stop. And there's so much more coming out about him and whether she knows or not i could see why she filed for divorce The first ten years of her life was just buying purses and going to events. She got bored. She started doing this the her thing. She allowed him to do his thing. And now i think she's like holy shit. You know you always said. I could spend the symmetric money as much as i want. And now i'm sucked into this and it looks really really bad. I mean these are victims that have lost that are orphans that are horribly disfigured that finally get the the word years and years after going through this that they're going to get their ten million dollars and then don't get it from their own attorney so this is really bad and i don't know i know that she's not living in the mansion anymore. I believe she's living in a nice place like an apartment or condo. Certainly the lavishness of the house. So maybe they can sell the house already. Says he doesn't have any money. All of his money is gone. And if you look at the history of his spending it was incredibly lavish generous donations. Big parties he'd throw for people Shoot fire up the jet and bring the cast from the housewives on the jet. Oftentimes that was not paid by bravo. That was paid by her. That was paid by erica. Jane's company which now this affidavits claiming that that money was loaned to the law firm and instead of using that money to pay the victims and and run the law firm. It was in fact going to the erika jayne fund which probably paid for the glam squad and everything else. So it's pretty it's pretty crazy. And this and he really was like the king of los angeles and new many people and was well liked in grew up in l. La and his dad was a prominent attorney and his his three kids from his first marriage are like my age. And you know it's just interesting because you really kind of wonder. Would he be here today if erica. Jane didn't do the housewives because before the housewives according to her book and her interview with me she was kind of done with the erika jayne thing which again was very costly because she was at a level that basically she's putting on a show that us paying all these dancers these hair people everything but she would like not get much money. If any just like when. I started out doing standup. You just do these shows for free and kinda was going to wear and she said she talked to her manager or someone entertainment and goes. I think this has gone. It's it's you know it's it's run. Its course you've got to pivot. And she thought. What am i gonna do. How do i pit. And just then is when you'll launder recommended her for the real housewives of beverly hills and and she went for that and then she had to continue to keep the persona and keep it going and and live up to this star that she created. I mean she had madonna's like choreographer music real music producers writing her songs real choreographers real costumers everything and then everyday that they would just go to lunch. The glam squad has to come when she did my podcast. When i wasn't even filming it she had the style the hair makeup. End the hair hair guy to make up person and the style come so they all got paid for the day. I'm assuming they're all getting at least thousand dollars. If not maybe fifteen hundred dollars a day so just think about all those times and how expensive it was to be air jane. It's expensive to me equil- now we know now. We know how expensive it was. Okay you guys. This was my story from two from thursday. And i've talked about it on my instagram. This is the woman who gartner car and gave a harrowing harrowing. Twenty minute two part. Igt story about how her children are almost kidnapped. I thought the story when i first watched it. Though i had a ton of up. I thought it appeared. Well she did it in her car as if it just happened in that parking lot and then i said that's weird that she would do the police report then go home. Drop off her kids. Then go in car and do it. Well i found out yesterday. The incident happened on december seventh. That's when she filled out the police report she did not do this video that got four million views and she went from three thousand Instagram followers to eighty four thousand instagram followers. She did this a week later so a week after this happened. She got her car. She did some subtle makeup and told this story In her car well then somebody sent that the to the petaluma police department and said please make sure. Our children are being stolen out of the michaels parking lot in petaluma. We're all terrified. All these women shared at people were terrified. All over the country not just pedaling because she never said right off the bat that this is petaluma. Michael's and the police are like. Will we met this woman and we took her place report but the police report doesn't match what she's saying in this switch talks about the couple following her around who attempted to take her stroller. They find these people or the people find then the police because someone goes. I know them. They're my neighbors. they're not child kidnappers. They contact the police a cooperate with the police. This is a couple. That's living in the community forever. Their parents and their grandparents They're not kidnappers so last night the police department put out a statement saying that they in factor not the people that were pointed out. According to this woman are not kidnappers. They did not try to commit a cap this child. There's no eyewitnesses showing that they grabbed the stroller And anyway so the coke. The case is now closed and again. There's more that's come out about this woman because of juicy scoopers everywhere that i'm sorry to be a cocktail but i will share and patriotic But i will. And i just feel like this was really awful of her to do as if young moms and everybody doesn't have enough to worry about in their life. During christmas losing their jobs. You know everything that now. They can't go out and get some art supplies for their home child without them possibly being kidnapped so i'm really pissed that she did this and i'm glad that i my intent was up. I'm glad that i was in my strong conviction that i knew that it was not completely truthful and and i got a little hate yesterday for when my podcast came out Saying why don't you believe her. And then those same people said well you were right and you know what. It's hard always being right. It's not always fun. So thank you to the petaluma police department you guys. I'm a real juicy interview with emily simpson from the real housewives of oc. She's been on the show for a few years. If you don't watch the show like all my interviews you're gonna love it. 'cause she has a very interesting life story That has you know before she got to the show. That i really thought was fun and interesting and juicy and again you guys. More info more content throughout the holidays. I'm going to be putting out the regular jason show as well as lots of patriots. You go to heather mcdonald dot net and you click on patriots. Join all the whatever level you want or you can get my merch. It's all their dot net Watch my standup special. You can watch that on amazon video prime or you can watch it on patriot. You can also listen to it. The audio is now available and you can gift to people. Don't have a gift senate digital gift of me guys here. We go with very juicy interview with emily so excited because i have. I think you might be the favorite this season real house. Oc emily simpson and lawyer. Now fitness inspiration cousteau ru real person real person. That's really great moments in lines. I think this is now your third or fourth season. Third ya third. I really feel like the audience is starting to get to know you. And i mean i got a lot of comments not. I didn't get the college. Because i didn't even say you're coming on. I people always talk about the show and they were saying. Can we all agree like the fact that she was eating the cookies and crackers and made your shame vacuum and blame it on the kids. Yeah they're like. This is why i wanna have kids. Please messes and like food missing. I blame everything on the kid shakeup. Somebody's like weather cheerios. All florida the kids. It's like that's why you have kids so you can just blame everything on them. I'm like i didn't do that. It was the kids but the problem is my kids are old enough now where they like what i say they're like that's not your daddy was mommy the oreos so hilarious Okay so i wanna talk to you a little bit about your life before housewives before we got to because it's pretty interesting now. Where did you grow up again. So i grew up in ohio. So i'm a midwest girl. And i don't think that ever changed. I think i'm a mid west girl that just ended up in orange county. Somehow so i mean i love orange county but i don't feel like i'm like an orange county girl i really just feel like i'm this ohio girl that somehow woke up one day and was like wow i live in orange county. I don't even really know how it happened. Yeah and so we see that I remember last season or something that you had a difficult relationship with your mom. We'll do what was what was the story behind that I think i mean we could do a whole episode just on that i mean i i think there's just a lot of A lot of layers there. My mom was a single mom and she raised my sister and me and ohio. Now when you say single mom your dad was in at all. No so you don't know your dad. I know my dad. And i i have somewhat of a relationship with him i. I talked to him on christmas my birthday and that's probably when did he leave the parents so my parents got divorced when i was six and my sister was three and my dad wasn't ever really a part of our life even though he lived in the same town. It's not like he left and went far away. I mean he lived like ten minutes away but we just didn't have a relationship so he went home eating things and he didn't did he pay child support. Yeah not i mean it was already struggle with. I mean when. I think about how much child support. Shane pays then. I think about like what my dad paid. My holy crap like that was peanut. So yeah yeah and so what so the difficulty with your mom start to emerge. I think as a child you don't You don't know any different than what you live. Because you don't really have anything to compare it to. But i think as i became older and became an adult and i had my own children my sister and i talk all the time about how just i mean. Basic needs weren't met when we were kids. There was just. I think my mom had a lot of issues and shed. A lot of health issues. probably weren't addressed. I think she had a problem with my dad leaving. I don't think she ever got the help that she needed. And so she had that victim mentality that like my father left and we're poor and we don't have anything and it says fault and the burden a lot of yeah burden on the kids and saw they they feel like they gotta protect their mom right. They feel like if they were to defend their dad. That'd be hurtful to their ma right and that's a lot and that's also a very interesting thing when Such a big thing. I find with people. I'm interviewing that didn't have ideal childhoods whatever that level might be one. they become apparent. It's almost the anger that they have towards their parent is more because they're like yes. I now what. Like i had you know top broadway for three days. I ate making food for my five year. Old sister like i was. I like all. That's yeah it was. And when i had children in my sister has a daughter we would have conversations and we would be like what the hell like. I mean mom league. She never got up with us and made breakfast. Because what you said. You didn't know any but i didn't know any different right now that i have children i get up with them every morning. I wake them up the breakfast. I take them to school. I picked them up. I take them to all their activities. And i'm thinking i didn't have any of this as a kid. None and it makes me angry. It makes me mad. And then shane says you can't get mad at your mom. She seventy years and she did the best she could. And so i go back and forth between. I don't wanna be angry but main gre- but i don't wanna be angry and i don't know it's just you ever feel i've ever gotten to the place where you are grateful. Because you wouldn't be who you were you would be a completely different person. Maybe not as successful. Maybe not as good of a mom. Had you had that beaver cleaver situation happening. No i agree one hundred percent and i've had that conversation with therapists before because i feel like the reason i am who i am. And i'm so ambitious. And i'm so driven and i make family such a priority and my marriage and my children is because of what i went through. I if i did have this great life where everything was just handed to me and we had money. And i don't know my my. My mom. did everything for us. I don't know. Maybe i'd be like maybe. It'd be a complete slacker. And not right. Have that drive. That i have but i struggled so much as child and things were so difficult and i had to take care of. My younger sister had such a burden on me that i this i just had this drive to do better and i'm gonna get out of this. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to get a job. I'm gonna make money. Like i'm gonna take myself out of this situation. And so it's always such a trait. It's an interesting trait of like birth order to there was just the two of you but you just be a couple of years older than your sister. It was like you know from the beginning like well. You're the older one. Do this do that. You know and so. I always find it interesting because I think all but two presidents of our first four males o'reilly's i noticed in all the writers rooms and things i've done so many of the comedians are the youngest And you know you're like how. How are we so different. Well your parents treated you different. Even in a normal family The older is you know right gloves. And then there have all their responsibility and younger is actually being raised by the parents and the older siblings are seeing an appropriate stuff. They're older cute all the time they like the like. It's just kind of an interesting thing of birth order but in your situation it. It's a lot of burden on a on a six year old. Had you been a six year old the youngest of five or something where they all did stuff for you. Yeah and Like i was the youngest. And i just remember being like I would just point to stuff all the time. All these four their siblings would give me things you know and finally someone said you know. She can't talk and i was like. Oh i guess eddie murphy like old enough to be like i guess i can just like yours was the opposite situation. I had a huge burden on me as a young child to take care of my sister. Yeah and and that never went away like all through high school. I took care of her. I mean because she was the rubble she was the black sheep of the family. So then i felt like you know we are. Dad wasn't around wasn't part of our life. My mom was like. I don't even know that's a whole use. The i was the one that got up in the middle of the night and went in her room and she wouldn't be in her bed. And i would get my car and i would drive around and find her and then i would drag around like sixteen years old. Yes and you're sixteen fourteen. i'm like eighteen. And he's like sixteen fifteen. Yeah and i would drive around. So i found her because i knew like which friends she would hang out with. I would be. And i get my boyfriend at the time. The drug dealer. When i said that in a confessional you kind of drugs his he's telling. Oh god i don't even know. I only knew about i. I knew very little now. He's always the older or visit to too much going to get sued for defamation. Yeah nobody would get him would be like and we would drive around all my sister and then we would just like polar out of a part. And what's your mom doing that point just enjoying a nice night's sleep no walsh that or she had a boyfriend like she would stay with him all the time. I got left alone a lot as a kid and as a teenager. And so i had to take on the responsibility of taking care of myself and then taking care of my sister and i had no parents like my dad wasn't around. My mom was like always saying with her boyfriend. So then when you went to college. Was that a struggle like god. Can i leave. My mom can leave my sister or were you thrilled to just get the fuck out of it. I was thrilled. I think to be away from my mom. But i- i worried about my sister okay. A lot and that was hard. I was always calling her and like trying to figure out if she was undergraduate. I went to hanover college. Which is in indiana for one year. And then i ended up transferring to miami university which is in ohio and that's where i graduated from. Okay and then. Did you go right into law school. after that. then. I taught high school spanish really ass for four years so you're fluent in spanish but i suspect being yesterday and may go emporia blah. Okay studied abroad to okay to mexico. i taught spanish for four years. yeah so i took and then but what was interesting about teaching was. I'm twenty two. When i start teaching high school so i like eighteen year olds in my class. Are you watching a teacher on hulu. No should i. Yes because i'm so curious being that you're beautiful i see we were a beautiful back then and you're twenty two and i'm obsessed basically. It's a story that was scripted. But based on a lot of court cases where there's very similar background to the type of woman that Sleeping with her seventeen year old male student and she's like young and pretty but she missed out on life. yeah. But that's students. I i i'll take a lie detector test right now. None of that happened. I was so paranoid about people even thinking that i left my door open in my classroom all the time like i never shut my door like i was very now and where you're paranoid because you were young and or because he seventeen sixteen year old boys. Were like hitting on you a little bed. Both because i was young i was twenty two and i was single and mike drove like a mitsubishi eclipses convertible time you know with the cool car ninety eight or whatever and all the kids like always wanted to like. Let me ride in your car. Let me do that. And they always were like in my room and always want to hang out and i was like. I'm leaving my doors open. And i didn't want there to be any room rumors accusations or anything. Because when i was teaching there was another young teacher that actually did have an affair with one of the students and got out by security like a female teacher. Yes your school. What is that story. I didn't know the whole story. I just knew that it was her first year teaching so she was probably my age. Twenty one twenty two right when you graduate from college yeah. She's taught english remember that she was next to me because i taught spanish so they handle the language teachers. Yes and the same hallway and there was like a commotion and i. I literally saw her escorted to her car by security and then it was just like all the rumors about how she was having an affair with one of the students. And that's what. I was just like you ever. Did she ever get convicted or anything. That like new older credentials. I i don't know exactly. But i mean even in my high school. When my sister was in high school there was a teacher that had an affair. With one of my sister's friends a male teacher and then he ended up marrying her but he ended up getting fired but really it was more like they asked him to leave got hired by another district. They called like pass the trash. Yeah yeah no. I mean it happened so i think a lot of scandalous things that go on and i just didn't want to be a part of it at all. You did teaching for a while and then. When did you decide that you were going to take the sats and all that It was when i watched legally blonde so it was like a one right and elwood's gave her speech at the end. And i was like that's it i'm done. I'm not teaching anymore. I'm going to law school. So i so i started law school in ocho. Where'd you go for law school. I went to i went to university of dayton my first year i was living in ohio at the time and then i got married. So who did you marry. Okay my marriage before. My first husband is in the marine corps. He's still is. I don't know. I try to find him just out of curiosity but i think he's so high ranking he has like crazy security clearance. You can't even like find him on social media. I did find his name like on Some speech he gave about things so we know he's still in but he's an officer. I mean he's how'd you meet him. I met him online and like two thousand or something like right when the internet was. Yeah like the cool thing to do and you you know you met like on dating sites and stuff yeah chat rooms and so yeah okay so you have. Yeah and it was hot. Yes i mean. It was a good looking guy dumb box. Iraq's like forrest. Gump like socially like seriously like i couldn't. I mean very attractive tall. What did your friends think. You're how long did you date before. He asked her to marry him. Maybe a year. And what did people think like. What did you think when he got down on one knee where you like didn't know what to say or do you really think you're lifelong partner. Or what was your thought. Oh i think i was stupid. I think twenty six dominoes from ohio. And i hadn't really seen a lot and i just thought it was like the next thing to do. And what were you like together. And then he would go do tours or like yes we got married and we we lived as post nine eleven. Yeah so Actually yeah so nine. Eleven happened when i was no. We weren't married yet. We got married the year after that. Okay we were living together during nine. Eleven and i lived right outside of washington. Dc whittam during novel. So i was teaching high school outside of washington dc. When nine eleven happened he called me. I was at work teaching. He said something horrible happened. I'm going to be gone for a while. He was gone days weeks. I don't even remember. It was a long time ago and the school where i taught shut down for the entire week to because a lot of kids were affected by it out because they had parents that worked in the pentagon all my god and so it. That's why nine eleven for me is It's a really significant. Because it wasn't like i was just in ohio and i watched it on the right like i was right outside. Dc and. i had students who lost parents parents who lost siblings who were affected by it directly bills like right now huntingdon marine was gone and i don't even know what he was doing. There was a lot of things that he did that he couldn't even like share with you and talk about and so Yeah nine eleven for me is just. It's just a yeah a brutal day to think about. 'cause i have you know just living new yorker living nearby and totally dif- very traumatic very post traumatic you know. Of course. the their life wasn't interested for those exact reasons. It yeah affected everybody differently. Okay so did you guys break up while you're in law school yes so then after. That was my last year teaching. And then i decided to go to law school after that and so i went to law school and ohio and then he was. Don't remember like afghanistan or something. I don't know and then i went to law school one year and university of dayton. And then he was transferred to pendleton. And so we moved city in san diego so i moved to san diego and then finished law school in san diego at thomas. Jefferson so and then. When did this marriage kind of see that. When did you when you have your moment that this has to when i was in law school like it didn't really. I was fine being married. Because like i had health insurance and like a free place to live and it works out and he was gone all the time. It worked out really well but it was after. I graduated from law school and then i had to like get a job and be like a real person. Yeah and also it got to the point where we had almost been married five years and i don't know if you know in california once you've been married five years longer you have to. Actually it's different. It's a longer process to get divorced. Make appearances and things in court were prior to five years. If you've been married less than five years. And i think if you don't have children you don't own property right do like a really easy like three hundred dollar. Yeah like i did it myself. I was like so once that five year mark kinda rolled around. I was like hey like before we get to the five. Yeah let's just. How and was he devastated. Or was he like. I think he had a girlfriend or something to just yeah. Her name was like shin-ei or something like saul in an email. It was just not it was just a stupid and you didn't even care now. It was a twenty something year old marriage. it was just it was ridiculous. That's why i don't even remember it. That's why it's like it's so insignificant other than sometimes like oh yeah like annabel will find the page have like a real wedding. Yeah you had friends and food and stuff. Oh yeah we. It was a pretty big wedding like my mom was like all into it really and you are like the war. He wore the marine blue. And everything. I actually had found a photo and i thought about posting it on veterans day but i thought she might get mad. We'll have it. We can show it on my before you leave so okay so so now you're working and you still live in san diego or is that when you move to those see so once i graduated from law school i did move to orange county because okay job out of school was i worked for a real estate firm and san juan capistrano. Okay that's how. I ended up in orange county legal. Doing stuff yes i did. I did a lot of so boring. It was like disclosure. I asked review for new development since it paid really well so right out of law school it was like a great job i got. I had an office and this is where you met. This is where. I'm at shane. Okay was your boss. Yeah i hate to say boss. 'cause like yeah. I was like smarter than him. But i mean shane smart. But i i feel like i'm just more driven was always like telling him what to do. But and windsor attraction then no and was. He married that okay. I'm so then. What is the story behind how you guys message each other one night and decided to get married forever even on a date there. What is this story more. I mean probably a little more but not much. We work together for three years and he was married and he had he had a daughter shelby. And i i've never been like. I was never attracted to him because i would never be. Attractors is someone who was married right. Know what. I would never go there. Yes but we worked together and he's funny yes hilarious. Yeah so we had fun working together because he was just always like he was just make funny comments and he would like real housewives and like we would chat only crazy. Yeah that's kinda when it started it was like five or something like that and i started working there and oh five and so it was just being that you are a mid girl came to the and that was que. Did you guys ever discuss that. We would talk about the show because it was like. What did you and vicky. Oh you've ever talk about the fact that she was like a midwestern girl who came to the coast. No not really because i never really had like conversation you ever really licht so okay so get back to get back to. So you enjoy. Have as a person tracking. Because he's taken. What happens to the night that you guys decide to get married gossip war so his wife laughed. Okay the kids move to utah. Then then he. I don't know he had a lot of things going on and i had done family law for years so he would ask always been a practicing mormon. Yeah well since. I knew him yes i think i don't even know i've never even had these conversations with him but i believe it was sometime like in his teenagers. Like sixteen. Seventeen eighteen then converted. Oh he converted till he wasn't raised with no no because his mom's iranian. I mean she. She'll roy moore people that he met like someone knocked on the door and he actually. Oh so this is what i. This is what i have gathered from being married to him for twelve years. Okay his neighbors when he was growing up mormon and they had six kids i believe and they were all around his age and so i think the three boys three girls and he would be at their house all the time and he's still really good friends with the family and i know all of them and i think he just felt comfortable with eunice and he just really connected with them and then he would go to church with them and then i think that's just where he founds cool. Yeah so This he still go now. Yeah oh really do you ever go. Yeah oh you do do. Do the kids go. Yeah i'll do you like every week. The holiday shane goes every week. Takes the kids. Sometimes they take all the kids. Sometimes he takes wine sometimes. Yeah but our step daughter's chanel lives with us full time. How old is she fourteen. Okay so she goes to seminary and so she goes every week and he takes her in seminary. I don't know like ccd like is that like Were you do do study a little bit on the weekends about religion or something. I don't class early in the morning and go to school. They study scripture. They'll have a teacher that does okay. Yeah all right. Yeah all right so warm and questions and i know people think that's weird because we've been married for twelve years yet. I've never been a religious person. And he's very so we just like we coexist. And i would just go to church with him and i would kind of support him but we never had conversations. But i'm ready to have these conversations now if that makes any sense like this year yeah has been so bizarre dark and so weird for me that i'm like feeling like i need to find some peace somewhere. Yeah that makes sense. Well when you go like do believe in. Jesus christ i do. Okay yeah yeah. But i never really felt before i would. Just listen never really felt an opinion one way or the other. I always respected it. I've right disrespected his religion or beliefs or anything. But now i feel like. I'm finally after twelve years of being married like i'm finally open to. I want to ask him so many questions. Like why the mormon faith. Why do you believe what you do. Do you believe everything or do you believe some of it. Like i've had these conversations with lisa barlow from salt lake. Yes because she calls herself mormon two point. Oh we'll she converted right right jewish right and so i've had long conversations with her about why what it was that attracted her to that religion. 'cause i'm i'm questioning myself right now. I had a friend when the kids were little and she was catholic. Went to like the catholic school over like these high schools. I went to and she fell in love with her husband who was raised mormon here and they so she converted to mormonism at and he was a director of television and he didn't he would get these bottles of champagne when he'd get a job and she'd be like do you want the champagne. His agent sends them at a bottle of champagne. Every time it gets a job. And i said why don't you just tell the agent that you're warner that you don't drink and she's like no he won't be able to work anymore. Oh really g they yes there. There was a time. I don't know if it's still. Is he just best for his in. Hollywood they don't know that he's more just unfortunate but it's very true right. Mormons were persecuted for so long. And i mean when they said when they came to salt lake and set up the temple and shane no gas. Or yeah these things about how they would like build the church but then they would have to cover it up so that people didn't know that they were there are building the tumble and then they cover it and build it some more. And i'm yeah it's it's really interesting. Are you enjoying salt lake city. I haven't watched. I watched like a little bit here and there. But i haven't actually sat down and watched it but i don't even watch orange county so okay so how you fall in love how you text each other one night and decided to get saying it's devore's and we kinda connected even more so when he was going through a divorce because i did have a lot of experience family lost he would ask me things about yes or settlement agreement or challenge support blah blah blah blah blah. Then they get divorced and then he was like. Do you wanna go to vegas. And i was like sure. I'll go to vegas. We went to vegas and then as a date. Yeah so is that the first time that you like make out. Yeah there was some kissing but like we didn't have sex. Okay yeah because. I mean he's mormon and it's your first day. Yeah but then. It was like right after that. I i like through google chat. He says i'm the one that asked him through. Google chat is hey he asks me but apparently through this google chat conversation. It was like. Let's get married okay. And we got married a couple of weeks later where well we got married in orange county but we went to the courthouse and got married and it was just me. Shane and his parents and his parents like i didn't even know that. Well i only met his mom like one time before can't understand anything. The woman says at all the tiny little persia she they take us to the courthouse and they're bentley and his mom's like all decked out and she had green and she made her husband wear greens larry green onto because apparently in the persian culture. If you wear green. it's like guidelines. Okay so shane. I had like this dress on from like banana republic. That costs like forty dollars. It was like gray. I had no idea what was going on. I was like why bentley like getting married. I don't know i'm so confused. I'm from ohio. I have no idea and we get married and like when you tell your sister to marry. This guy used to say the last three years ago. Anyway we went to vegas we can't touch goo but nothing more and now we're getting married. And what is your sister's sake great. Yeah she's like whatever. Okay whatever. Yeah i mean my family was like okay like they didn't tell me not to. Yeah but. I don't think they weren't like so the first night after you get out of your gray banana republic and where that is. That's the first date you bone right. Yeah yeah. I know it was good like she. Yeah i mean yeah he is like i. Have you ever dated someone that was shorter than you prior to him. I did one person like in law school at at any time. That were you. Like i need to wear flats or did he love it because a lot of guys i love when they're dating a girl that's a little taller and they're like where you're fucking high sexy heels oshane buys me like just bought me a pair of boots yesterday with like big. He'll yeah he like for him. He's like what is it the saying. The taller the wife fatter the wallet or something like that right like like for him. He's a psych like he. Yeah i love that. Yeah oh you went to utah you left. Oc and went to utah a little bit. When shane and i i got married so we got married in orange county courthouse then we lived in utah or first five years of marriage we lived in utah like right kids those first five just his two first but all the other little kids so you have warned you about your daughter and your twin boys. Yes but they pay yet so our first five years of marriage. We live in utah. Got it and his daughters They share custody right right. And i think back to that time i'm like damn life was good like i had no kids. You know we lived in utah. We had his kids just like the schedule was. We would go to vegas all the time we go out to dinner. We you know the easy life. Yeah then you have kids. It's all ruined can't go anywhere never can sleep and laid on saturday. And he didn't he is. He's very family oriented. Yeah he's a man who gets married and stays married. Was he devastated when the first marriage ended. Yeah he was an and she left him. And i think he tried everything possible to being at work and then he just got to the point where it just wasn't going to happen so he moved on but Yeah he he would have never left his first wife. He's just one of those like no matter. What committed you know. Made it to marriage So for him it was just like i don't wanna be in any situation that could possibly jeopardize our marriage our family our children so i think it was hard for him. He was like those first two seasons. I mean a lot of the animosity or a lot of the problems in our marriage to do with like he didn't wanna film or he didn't wanna do things. Yeah and then. I can imagine when after something happens in real life like when you know. Kelly was yelling bread. Do you think he wanted to film after that. Yeah and then with and then you you know then you then you watch it back. And then you get all the social media people chiming in their two sides of whether i you know yes. He is a little door or noise. Not or you know right. I mean do you. Does he not look at that to tell them not to look at it. Like how do you do you wake up that morning. After an airing and go. I don't even want to deal with today or he. He actually deals with all social media. Stuff really well. Graham county has one hundred followers. He's never approved anyone else. I have people that are like will you please. Ashington approve me. I'm like no. He's not he won't do it. Yeah he doesn't care and he never cared what people thought about. It never affected him. And i have to give him credit for that just really just he just because he i don't he's not into it like yes. It is fun to see the fun percent. Come out of course. This show is edited as we know. And you know you would say. Oh he's funnier. Yeah you'd be laughing but it would be like in a way like eleven but now we're finally seeing his leg personality out. I just you know common in the car. Like what like the palm springs thing just like okay. I mean that was part of the reason. Like i married him was because he made me laugh all the time. And i thought if you're going to spend the rest of your life with someone like can you to spend the rest of your life with someone like entertains you laugh because everything else kind of goes mad at him. Does the man not stay that long because he does. because he'll he'll say something. That's like hilarious and then it just kind of brings everything you know back not drink being the no one's never drink. He's never had a drink alcohol ever and his entire life. Yeah i mean. I've even tried to like slip him. Alcohol and it doesn't work he he'll be like you can smell it like he. No absolutely no would ask about when you did the dance number jackass and i know you've talked about it before that like you know he didn't really want you to do that. Dance number in vegas. Which is why at first he or he came the next day. Yeah but the parents were there. And i have to say the way that was done. It was pretty hilarious. It's money yeah. I agree a hundred percent. And you're like. I said doing a striptease for my father i was but i mean the way the camera would pay on like it. Looks like but it wasn't at all you know my father-in-law is one of those. I like my mother-in-law's the is the matriarch. Wears the pants in the family. She's a firecracker still everybody you know what to do. My father-in-law's is one of those nice guys. Just he goes everywhere with her so he goes to all these persian parties and he And so that's how it was vegas like you know. She wanted to go to vegas. 'cause she's she loves to go to a pants and arcelor does and our diamonds and furs and like she loves it. Yeah and so. He just goes everywhere with her so for me like they're a package like i don't even like it for me. It's not like oh weird my father-in-law's here because he's he's always. Yeah so yeah. I've been with him. I've worn less like the pool in hawaii or something you know so for me. It was. I felt more covered like everything was covered on. So you know. We're seeing you guys in cova. Ed and i've really enjoyed the season at first. I thought i wouldn't want to relive cove it but i'm kind of enjoying it like a like a recent history lesson like yeah and of course i you know i think there was a really great moment actually with you guys when you were talking to elizabeth at the pool and i was like now this really feels like a cohesive group of women and talking about giving some advice on divorce and whatever and so i mean i do enjoy it. I know you can't give too much away of what we're going to see but it seems like you've enjoyed the season a lot more. Oh yeah oh yeah it's for me. I would say the first two seasons. I didn't really enjoy a lot of it. it was very. Did you ever question coming back in between. Yeah the first two years. Why do i do like yeah. I need to go practice. Law and be emily and take care of my kids and because it gave me a lot of anxiety like my last year was so hard on me. I lost a huge amount of hair just from like stretch. It just stressed me out it. Just it wasn't healthy. Shane and i weren't getting along gene weren't getting along. That was like a knife in my heart. And i just i just got to the was like i like this isn't healthy. I don't know if something that i should do but then this season was just so much better because i really have a great relationship with gina. Okay i mean we have a real friendship. I have a great relationship with kelly. I think she's buddy. When jesus like i wish people she goes. I have no problem that my house is zad. Could everyone just jumped saying that. It said she's like i don't care if he said it or not talking about move onto another subject now sad little house adorable house. I know right. And i think people enjoy that realism to like. There's one side where people go. I want to be rich people. whatever. But i'm like well if you watched it from the very beginning the vintage you. We had laurie in a little right house. The condo starting mulch divorced got a victim like on camera. Yeah i i enjoy seeing the the realist re and i always take up for gina when people say things like that because you can put someone. Who's wealthy like peggy. And i mean she. Has you know for a reason. Yeah and she only lasted one season. I don't know why. Because i never watched any of those episodes but there wasn't a connection with the audience otherwise they would have kept her on. So a lotta times like those big homes and cars. Those are only they only catch your attention for so long where you're right. Well that's a beautiful house. Wow that's beautiful car but if you don't have something that x. factor that draws people end then you're not gonna last on the show. Yeah it is and she's always been very open about like what's going on with her life the good and the bad and the ugly and the dirty and the you know what and people connect with her and you know her apartment her condos cute. It's way nicer than i ever grew up. You know and the yeah that whole that whole area is the most expensive probably that part of the world in america so like just stop or great but what What i also want to ask you is what you struggled with what to do with your embryos and what have whatever happened with all of that. I still have them. Pay the fee. And i know even now like at my age. I'll be forty five In january so kids are pretty much off the table on. Imagine at this point overt. I can't i just can't destroy them right. And i can't donate them. I mean for a split second. I thought about donating them. But then when i talk to shane about it he was like. Are you crazy. That would be like a full siblings right round stalking them and like you know in the bushes at school like watching them. And like you know couldn't i i personally. I know a lot of people do. And i think it's great. That had some very hard decision you know and you know we saw what happened with this afi of gara and her acts where he i think. He's still suing her saying he wants them so that they can be put into a surrogate and he can raise them and then get child support from her when she's like a married to someone else right. We did these very careful legally as you know to be like either on the same page or he cyrus over to you and you decide what to do with them. You know right But yeah it's a it's a tricky situation and you know and most everyone i know that's in your position is doing the exact same thing i just like. I'm just gonna keep paying that fee because all of those reasons you know. And i told shane and he was fine with it. I thought the only thing that i can do that makes my heart. Okay it's just paying the storage via every year. And i'll probably be eighty and still pay it because i don't yeah i just i just don't i can't pull the trigger and be like okay. Destroy them yes. I mean i feel. I think there's an option where you that you can have them put into your body and then your body just kind of absorbs them. How about that. No i think they'd like maybe inject it into your bloodstream. Or something along the road where they'll say we can use them for science or something and you want there purpose you can do. That can donate them for for science. Yeah i just at this point. I can't really do anything. I can't really pull the trigger now. Are you still working as a lawyer. Because it seems like. You're pretty busy with this. And now i see that. You've teamed up with trainer. Let's talk about that a little bit. Well i do. I do work for the california innocence project. So i always wanted to do pro bono work and so now i just now. I'm in a position to do it. So i do that. see i do case review for them for you. Know when cases come in I do a lot of fundraising for them and things like that. I'm on their board. So that's my legal work. That i do and and shane he never did he ever pass the bar yet. No i mean he passed in utah so okay so he's still taking it so he keeps having to take it here in california. I don't know if he's going to. He didn't take it in july okay because it was virtual to i mean they all kinds of like weird things they had to do to take it. Virtually like you know prove that you're not cheating or not cheating right. It was a lot. And so i don't know if he's going to take in february. I hope not. I don't know if i can go through that again. I mean at this point. Do you care no. I don't care. I mean i really i can see. Why does he have another career. He works for a law firm. Okay and he works in long beach and he actually. It's his friend that he went to law school. What they've been friends for years. Yeah so he works for his firm and you know they he they talking about expanding and doing something else or some other kind of business venture whatever i just. I feel like changes new something else yet. He's very committed to like finishing like he feels like he just wants to take the bar to prove that he could do right. But i'm just like. I don't know if i can get it's hard and then the whole world is watching. Yeah i'm like who really want to go through that again. I don't either. So many memes out there of shane and like not passing the bar. Like i can't even like do we have to add more. Yeah and then where you were. You really upset when he did gonna the hotel to study. I know i booked the hotel for him. Yeah because i was like of course he doesn't want to be filming any has to study and i know and so many people were like always cheating on her and i was like i booked the hotel. I know where he is. I mean if. I want to show up at any minute. I can right. I mean i took to bar exam. So i know what it takes to pass. And you can't have any distraction you know. You can't have three little kids cameramen and exactly so i was like no. You need to go to a hotel and you shut yourself in the hotel and study day. And that's all you write. It didn't work but we tried. We gave gave. What hotel was it. I don't remember. I mean he took it on -tario because they marriott. Yeah some cheap hotel and just like a sad like knockoff. Curative corner. Yeah exactly. I mean it's not like he was like outliving large at like the you know five seasons or something four season so okay so tell me about your fitness stuff that you're doing well so i so during this has been such a journey i lose weight again at i lose it and then engaged in and then after quarantine and then kind of some things that we go through which comes up later in the season i just really came out of it kind of like a different person and really committed to getting in shape. I was working out really hard changed. My diet quit eating chick-fil-a in my car so and a lot of people would say so. Many nice things like how did you get in shape. How did you get motivation. And so i couldn't answer everyone and we also did. My trainer and i did live workouts during quarantine g and we have between one hundred fifty to fifty people every time. Yeah they would always ask for more when you get to do more workouts. We really like So it was just that the people asking questions and asking for more workout. So i was like well. Why don't we just record psalm. And i'll just put them on a website and then it just became more complex. That became a tag. Now we have lighting and we have a video editor. And i have a nice website and we have meal plans and i don't know i never really do anything small like i always initially like. Oh we'll just create like a little website and put some some workout videos on it and then it just turns into something much bigger. But it's been great because a lot of people like all the feedback. I get back as people. Just love the videos because they feel like they're right there with me. Yeah and it's a good workout like my trainer is a certified personal trainer and she makes all the workouts and then we chit chat and then sometimes i have guests. Come like lizzie to work out with me and gene. Are you still doing. The bathing sits with lizzie. Although sold out like we designed it when okay see sold out on qvc so so why are you making more. We'll we should because qvc. Please come back. But i don't know we just have to kind of figure that out. I don't know if we're going to do it again. Or what. I make the same suit over again and i mean we could. We bought the pattern we should. I don't know. I gotta talk to her about that. She just moved. She's like remodeling her deal. She's divorced right no she's married. Well i don't know if there's lizzy stayed married to that guy. Yeah like they separated but they've never liked completely. I mean i really shouldn't talk. That's fine. I mean i just remember. And she's appeared on the show a few times with this. We're really good friends. We hang out all the time. That's great yeah so Tell everybody like what do we. What can you tell us that. We have to look forward to before the end of the season. So you've got a lot of episodes left Yeah there's fourteen total where we add. I don't even know like yeah. I don't know. I don't know so you have a bunch left. Yeah i mean there's a girl's trip coming out. Which is interesting. Because i i think there's a lot of things you know. Go on. There are a lot of drama and stuff. So you know that's and you're able to go on that trip because everyone gets cova tested and they ask and then like including cow or or or the the film and everything yeah and and then that was successful right and so when did so shannon. Okay then we're gonna see shannon right now. We're watching it. So i don't want her anything. Yeah all right well good. I'm excited to keep watching eventful season so far and you know considering what we what the challenges were that we had to make a show. I mean that we deal with quarantine that was supposed to be two weeks and ended up five months and you know we had to sell film. Which i i didn't i was like. I don't know you know became banana brad. And shane's clear the toilet ever to say. Can you just at least feel like an hour a day. What would what would they say we would get an email where they kind of bullet point like okay like you know and then you know we would skype with each other and stuff to try to write the connection the friendships. Yeah but i mean it was. It was challenging. It was like we're making a reality show and there in the world shuts down and so the fact that i feel like we made a really good show and got fourteen episode. I think the production company killed all they. Did i tell thomas who's the show runner all the time. I'm like you know you guys should be commended. Because it's just phenomenal that we were able to do what we did. And i think it's really interesting. Yeah because it was a crazy point in history. You know and i and i know i would hear people are re comments that were like i don't wanna relive quarantine but i felt like the episode where it was corinthian. I thought it was really interesting because like right. It's just like this fun. Bird's eye view into people's houses like no makeup and no housekeeper. And you have your pajamas on shane's cleaning the toilet and you know it's just like i don't know for me that's interesting. I always wyche like a little bird's eye view into people's lives. And then i kinda was like and it was like twenty days since quarantine and i'd be like. Oh what was i doing then. Because i remember like the first time i was like okay. I'm going to go visit my sister in palm desert which was memorial day weekend and like that was like the first time but other people were like i thought another family on eastern. I'm like you did like it was just kind of like we're seeing or everybody. Kinda had their own way of how they dealt with. Some people will get an a for quarantining. other people will get a c. Yeah i mean you know. It's taking the judging of that But then you know so. I'm like i'm grateful for the entertainment and to see it. You know because it's like you run out of stuff to watch and do okay. So i'm really excited. You came related joy your juicy life story. It's a lot here. I need a timely. Next leg pointed out. 'cause i even got confused i know like oh my god like i didn't know that so i'm excited. Watch the rest of it yeah. It's a good season. And i hope that you is. Do you get to have your reunion person. I know that happened. And i look forward to see your dress. People stresses get your shiny legs going. I know i didn't spray tan. Last season probably wasn't the best choice. But i just had hip surgery like nine days before we filmed the reunion so i was all bandaged so i didn't get a spray tan. And what is your. What is your tagline this year. Oh it's something about life curves Yeah when you know. Always what i wanted but i love like. There's a clip of you going to hear that every week. I'm like can we just like commute me at some point. Do we have to keep hearing that over and over you say well. Shane came up with a tagline. It was funny with curves like these. I put the class. And i was like that is so i like push for it. I was like please tagline. But no next year next year i love it take you amil. Everyone follow you. It's just your day. It's hse underscore. Emily some sun. Because apparently emily simpson is very common name about ten million of them out there so follow her. Check her fitness program. Yeah this obviously. It's emily simpson dot com. Thank you thank you thanks guys. I've got shows for the rest of the holiday season all this month patriots. It's all here. I'm going to get you through it. There's a light at the end of the tunnel. Twenty twenty one is right around the corner so keep Keep getting excited to see your phone pop up with notices from me.

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The World is Really Shitty and I'm Alone (w/ Ziwe)

Why Won't You Date Me?

1:03:30 hr | 5 months ago

The World is Really Shitty and I'm Alone (w/ Ziwe)

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A very funny instagram live that I think you should watch where she interviews. People and asks not uncomfortable questions like kind of easy questions. One of my favorite questions was named five Asian people and the person you're interviewing could not do it and she waits for Jesus and Mirrow it is. Hey there you so much for doing this I for having me. I'm so excited I. Love The show I listen I listen to it sometimes for my research like with Josh Sharp, I listen to his episode would you guys talked about deleting an a prior episode? So it was really really fun. Oh, so funny that's cool. I love that also, what is on your head? I know Him Nobody can see what's on your head, but is it a hat? This is a furry bucket hat, but it's fo- for. A fucking. Love that. Thank you. It's very it's I'm trying to go for Dionne at all times Yes. I love Dionne and I had always wanted a jeep wrangler share had. And I. Finally just got one because I was like we're all GonNa die soon. So I not dying. I'm jealous. How does it? How's the mileage? I don't really drive in you don't really drive far in La Hideout. So the mileage is pretty good. It took me a full month to have to get gas again. Wow. Okay. That's much better than that. That's good to hear because I deeply wanted jeep but I've been researching tubes ever since I was like six years old when I watched clue and so I was worried about the MPG but it sounds like it's doing away we're in a pandemic go anywhere. Doctor that you don't leave your house ever I barely leave my house. I think the MPG is not great i. think it's like twenty five miles per gallon. Twenty five that's we can work with that. Used to be like fourteen or fifteen. Oh So. This is where I'm glad to see that we are. We are evolving every year was every model and I cannot weeks purchased by American jeep sponsored by Americans just kidding I can't wait to get my American. That really got everybody. Loved it. Are you single dating married? Unconsciously uncoupled I'm so honored that you asked me if I was married. I don't know some people are married and happy and. will drink two bottles of wine and wake. Up On. Their Front Patio. Would happen to me this morning. I've not married I am single I'm single. On, dating. But not really because I don't like dating I've been texting I just text people from instagram like whatever. We you text people from instagram like people will connect with you on instagram and then we'll chat. Anything, nothing has come has come from that really just like French nobody likes lied in my DM's so I don't I don't know why it's really annoying. I wish people would it would be much easier than like reading their fucking profound than being like. Message them maybe they won't answer me, I don't know but do they ever respond to your like stories like, oh, my Gosh Nicole. You're so cool. Oh my Gosh Coal L. O. L. No. Never, no one's ever applied to single story of your well. I game in a lot of game will be like Dow boy I wish I were straight. But if you're in Arizona me and my boyfriend have a couch for you to the to crash animal make lasagna. So that's what I get. My DM's with almost no support. That's nice. So we're gonNA take our victories where we can. It is nice. I recently met this guy on an APP and he's in an open relationship and we ended up having a bunch of mutual friends in common and then we were like going back and forth for like a couple of weeks and I was like, what is this? Man going to be like, meet me in a park. We'll both wear masks and we'll have a great time and then I got the feeling that he was just never going to ask and I was like you know what? I'm just going to match this man because I was on because you you are matched it. Yeah because I really didn't feel like it was going to go anywhere and I'm all about not wasting my time no more. But did you vocalized hey, like, oh, I like you I want i. want you know because men don't seem to like that and I've already made the choice that I will die before I tell him in how I feel. Okay. So I see we're starting to get rid of the problem which might be communication. It might be but anytime, I have communicated with somebody it has not gone the way I want it to go. So I was like maybe over communication is the problem. But his question when you don't communicate with people, does it also go way it shouldn't go I guess it's never gone the right way. So I. Came to call let's start here. I think you have to communicate with everybody and if that's too much communication, the Nestle the right person I think that's right. But also I don't know if that's right because people seem to love playing games. So I could play games I could just I could never tell you how I feel like I could just. Just, you know be elusive and mysterious and have. Yellow hair because I cannot figure out how to tone this so it's not yellow. The call I have faith in you. I think that because if you don't WanNa play, you don't need to play games. Life is too short for game. Is it. Is it really is like Cou co-financing this tatas this can't be playing around like that. So just say what the key thing it's not cool. Then by next person I think what I'm trying to do is. Is, keep, someone around long enough to satisfy awarness mass. And if it ends, it ends. But like I think I'm just playing like a long game to be like it's okay. If I spend four months with someone who's a piece of Shit Long as I get fucked a little bit. No, it's not although I will. I can relate to you because I also someone who is like horned up and I I I don't know how to like act out those frustrations. Are just. Really tight man I'm blonde. So tight yeah of wound like a like a a nut cocker. Yeah, I, mean same I. have. Gotten, bored with masturbating and I don't like I don't know what to do anymore I feel that I'm uncomfortable with my body. So I'm like I'll give myself a little like Oh. That's too much. Z. Way Stop. Don't you dare. uncomfortable. I was raised by foreigners. So I'm like I don't have like that I've just I've just don't have that connection. That I wish that I could have you ever thought about working on that. Like to sex therapy no to like look at yourself in the mirror and get used to your body and like touting it I know it sounds insane. Yeah. Is You saying that makes I just looked in the mirror that's right. Next to my computer and I'm like. Looking at. Helpful thing I used to like I spend a lot of time being like, oh gross. I'm so fat hell awful and then I was like I dunno I could exercise could lose this weight and then I just started looking at me naked. Pad, and then every person I've slept with hasn't been like to you fatty and they'd be like I'll fuck. Oh so like. Other people aren't like fully disgusted like, why am I? So then? Yeah, like every morning I look at my tiny little titties I used to hate my tips I, want it a big old boob job but then looking at them naked as like they're not bad. They're fine. These are okay. Oh my gosh I I I. Love. Your. Book. The one with the bathing suits. Yeah I thought it was really beautiful. I really liked what you talked about when you said looking at your body meets comfortable in your body. So I support that I feel comfortable my body like I i. feel comfortable. I am attracted to my body but as far as like the stimulants, it's like A. Wild time with tightly wild person. Do you use sex toys at all? Yeah. But not like. Comfortable. We move on. Let's move up. Also makes my sister uncomfortable anytime. I do things like there's like sometimes they'll like her and interrogate her about her sex life and she's like Nicole. Freeze, Yeah Man I. I would like to your sister. Doing. Well, I feel bad for her sometimes having me as a sister 'cause she's not like I? Don't think she's prude I think she's just like well Nicole. There's people talk about this and. The person I talked to you about this imaginary and nobody and I really hate that you pressed me on this. I'm like I just WANNA know. Please stop please begging. You I recently got back on the APPS because I was like I feel comfortable doing a social distance hang time with somebody totally think it's okay I don't think I'll get cova dead. So I jumped back on the APPS and it's been like bad it's been. Like. For you on. Mine okay. Let's say I'm on tinder bumble `wow hinge. All right. I Wow. There's more coffee meets bagel which I fucking. Hey, a coffee meets BAGEL. Yes. Are you on that one I did it for one day because my friend said she got a day and then I did it for one day? I was like this is the bleakest. Well, this is not as. I did not enjoy my experience on it. I also don't enjoy experience on it and I hate the you have to like get beans. Needs. Coffee, like can what do I do I page? Yeah. That's how I feel also want woo plus which is for fat people but the only people who hit on me are like older men from Pasadena and I don't get is the at based in Pasadena like what is going on maybe people in Pasadena love. Themselves, Kirby Queen maybe that might be too who knows very nice. Erica Jane lives there. Oh really. Yeah really I love Erica Jane I think that she she has the makings of a star. I think so too. She's got the song. What is it? Expensive. My Katie's like a python. Know. How many folks do I give zero? Dead. None none that songs very funny. Again aren't concert in New Jersey we realized. It was. So her hits were hits they blew the house off expensive. She did how many Fox he did. Painkiller and the. Body because we love those about her, but then she plays like her deep cuts as well in an I'm an Erica Jane Fan through housewives. Play she's playing Kirch Chicago trax I'm not China not Chicago the musical, but like the stuff she did when she would like toward. CHICAGO. Like I season before we hear. I can't relate to that because I don't know that that music. It was a good experience. So Gorka was VIP, who Melissa Gorgeous She's on Hospital of New Jersey Oh see I'm not a housewife fan in a way where like I know all the franchises, I watched the first season of Orange County and I was like these women are unhinged. This is fun but like I fell off and then I watched three seasons of Atlanta I think and I love Atlanta, the most people are like. The Jersey housewives are wild, but I watch ninety day fiance. That's my reality show of choice. Yeah. I watched to to possess before I talk to you today just in case it came up which episodes did you hunt the the last two episodes because I let to stockpile van but Andre, Andre makes me nervous he just seems like he's up to something. So Love Andrei you can where you wish star I love him he because he says the most horrific things with ease and almost just smile when he said to libby episodes like are you stupid or on your period I was like who says that loud I cannot stand that man I like by closes up when I think about him because he's always like I need to stay home but you serve the man he's. Like he's a lazy misogyny. Him Get mad and as well I. Get mad I love it. He calls himself a homestay. Dad. That's funny. He's over. To. Me and soup and he his whole family is like you should be the one with the job. He's like nope Olivia legs it like that and then when. We actually hated he's like well, everybody's gaining on me and I'm like. Yeah Yeah I love your impression of him. Would you ever hook up with him? Yes really. Yes. If Libby wanted to divorce him I would take him. I would take him in I would not make him work. I absolutely. Let him live off me as long as he kept saying the most insane things to me Oh my God I. Think I would live off I would I would hook up with? Sinjin. I. Also, I will take engine as well. Sinjin in. Tonya. Tonya. This season's interesting because I think last season Tanya was like very bad at it but it's like you also went to like Brouhaha college and got drunk and flirted with people, and then he moved to America in Connecticut and lived in a shed with you, and then now he's like I think I'M GONNA go Houston I'm not your soulmate for like maybe I'll just like go back to like my cool lifestyle and she's like I'm GonNa lose him. 'CAUSE you're. Exactly, they that relationship was not meant. No, they should not be together. Yeah. Because if you did it somebody who's like a backpacker and Loved being outside and hiking and shit like that. Why did you make him live in a shed in Connecticut and leave him? It's just like you have to be there backpacking couple. Met that's what you're. GonNa do for the rest of your life like or you have kids but he's the one kid. He doesn't want kids. She was in that car accident she's triggered by his driving but don't wear seatbelts. I'm like, what is this what you mean let whereas? I just. I Love Ninety Day fiance I like see this is what I mean like. I want to not tell a man how I feel. So I can get into one of these dysfunctional relationships. Guard Fun and funny no no I watch I think that ninety day. Fiance. Single eroding the institution of marriage. You. I also think it's anti immigration propaganda. Yes. Yes. It's very. Who would you have sex with? Michael? We will. Michael. Michael. I think I would markle's adorable. Who did you hook up with your fiance? Unhappily ever after would not hook up with Eric Eric. He's Excuse me that's safe. Anymore he's wild. We don't crazy anymore. It's like it's it's like it's like, yeah, it's it's problematic. It's like anti mental health. We instead of saying something crazy something wild. Weeds. That's truly It was almost a crazy but like that's truly weird. We why is crazy problematic for mental health because it stigmatizes this I just I've not done this messenger. I learned this recently and I'm trying to follow the rules and respect. It more rude to call a person with mental health issues. Crazy. The call don't don't don't follow up. You're going to have me going out in the world calling people with mental health issues crazy and being like z. told me to do you have. told me to call you crazy. Officer, you're not supposed to use that word. We can't just US crazy anymore. So here don't get better. I'm not mad at you. It's I get so confused apparently. A basket case you can't you're not supposed to use that either. Yeah. But it took them we could have we could have picked up on that way. I know why you can't use basketcase why? Because it comes from the war and when your legs got blown off, they would carry around in a basket and call you a basket case that's horrible and terrible. Funny. Like if someone was carrying me around bath, I'll look into coal little basket case I'd be like. Real. Let me so excited Oh. My goodness to call you know I think a career gold mine is to never is to pick escorted everywhere. So Yes like. Day or Mariah Carey just been wheeled around on a Rowley Book Bag. Honestly a full grown woman straddling a Rowley book bag is a very funny image. I'd like to see that I used to try to them as a kid, but I would collapse them. They're really built I see. I wonder if you could sit on like a big suitcase. Oh, definitely, I can fit into a person I can fit into what from American apparel the old days the good old days. This is so wild are you tiny? I guess I don't know. I would describe myself as like tiny little. Like. I would never discard I like that. WanNa meet the person where it's like a couple of words about yourself. I'm Anne. On a make my day, we have to take a break. Heck. I WanNa read to you some of my tinder conversations I've been having recently. because. They're not good. Out dating is difficult because sometimes people don't have the fundamental respect for black? Woman. Yeah Yeah I feel like it's going a little bit better since. The massive protests. Which is literally insane. It is so wild to really be like a finger being treated better on absence this movement to treat black people slightly better. It's exhausting while I mean I guess it speaks to the breath and the of the movement. Yeah. It's a transcending into dating what a treat. So this man, he seems Nice. His pictures are fine. Okay. Truly. It's the same selfie at different angles. And that's what he's picking. All of this photos are the same Soviet, different angles. Okay. So there's one. THOUSAND ONE NOTCH? On. That one on that. Rat It's the same picture. Yeah. He's big colty energy. Let's put it that way. Yes. Yes he does. But his opening line was hi Nicole. So I just said, hi, his name and he's how's your weekend going and I wanted to be like, how do you think it's going we're in a pandemic maybe one good thing happened but like that's about it. So I just said very funny had vodka in a winter the beach. How was yours and he was like the Beach Vaca Great Combo mine was chill. And that's it. What how are we building anything YOU'RE NOT You're, not. Building anything is the answer does he have any anything on his profile? That's interesting where? Even, look at it Oh it says he is fifty one and he is a straight man. Okay there's no details other than not a single detail. Ask him what it's like to be straight. Oh. Okay. I. Like being straight. So I imagine with this nice man jewel away he has changed his profile August. He's now there's a picture of Riana that I think maybe he drew weird simply he's like handsome in a way your full year hair firm like a conversation would be awful. Do you know what I mean like I don't discriminate against talk to people see I do I'm laying? There's a lot of so there's a lot of pictures of his like. And then this good picture and then look at that. Smile. And then he's like win Kravis with a good tar or wow and then he's laying down he's like so hot this profile, the same picture of him being hot, and then his stomach again, and then a drawing of. Here's a question. Here are we positive that he's not catfish ing lutely might be catfish photos are over the stock photo. They brassard. Photo. His about him said I like cool women just be cool. Do truths and a lie born in Russia during the Soviet Union I was a stripper for three months in college both my parents are surgeons but he linked his instagram. Okay. So instagram so okay, we've got gotta this this picture he is posted twice on his profile, and then it says defining ourselves as opposed to being defined by others is one of the most difficult challenges we must face. I, don't know I. Don't think that's right for you maybe. I also maybe don't think it's right for me his pictures also literally just very insane. Oh, but he's got like good decor. I think this is apartment. Like. He's got rug housing seating and a table. Yeah you're right. He does have a table and that's not that's not true for most men. Yeah. So so what's your type? Let's guts they said, let's get into the brass tacks. What do you like I think by type is someone whose attractive to me which means they might not be conventionally attractive, but they've? Made me laugh or they're fun to be around. So I find Matt Attractive Look. Funny Guys Fund guys yet, but they don't have to be funny to other people if that makes sense like we could sing a song and the lift ride home and have a real good time. That's so sweet gosh. Said look real sentimental. Add to song immigration store. Yeah I got God few. Yeah. You want like a look humid cartoon. Yes. In of you like won't get embarrassed if I yelled their named from faraway the whole time they're walking towards me. My roommate. John I love him dearly but boy when I'm loud. Yeah. So the other day we had gone to the Beach John and I were driving home and then we got lost in the hills. Of Malibu. 'CAUSE WE TOOK A wrong turn to look at some houses and then when we finally found our way back. We were driving. We pulled up next to year and I roll down my window and started screaming high I know you excuse me and John was like please stop. Maybe less. So heart like imagine you're in your car, you just see lady in a jeep at the big hat I've lean her window and scream at this other woman who looks afraid honey it's optics I. Love. optically hilarious. I. Under I identify with John cleese everyone's looking get us. I think ninety nine percent of people identify with John and are like this is yes, he is correct. She's she's not good. She's truly wild. That's not okay. I need that one percent person. Ambi Like I. Love How loud she is. It brings me joy. Is it? Okay. If he's he's allowed himself, would you be annoyed by that I wouldn't be annoyed by it, but it would have to be the kind of lab. I think it's funny. It's a really specific thing I'd. Be Like loud and obnoxious and not funny like he could pull up next to his friend and then just be like Rodman not say anything and you're like, that's not the bit. You gotTA. Just, be. Loud. He knows. I like that your school dig your imaginary bleep. His diplomacy Moore you gotta you gotTa fake it till you make it you gotTa. Take. I did see. or not see I, had this this woman I guess she's an astrologist and. By the way, I am a virgo with the rising virgo. What are you? Well. You guess because Virgos they are they have a certain personality. Have a strong personalities I love and respect all my virgo friends and family and yeah. Apparently. Thing virgos have a very strong personality. Leagues, their weight if it's not there. Well in my older age I've been. When I was younger, it used to have to be my way but now. It's been a lot of therapy said God. Bless thank you I love therapy. But now I'm at a point where I'm like I would like it to be my way preferring it but if it's not my way can I can be okay, it's fine I don't have to harp on it. It's okay. The world is not a that's honestly the baseline of like socialization glad that we got there. We what's your sign I reply? Sees Dino, your rising sign by rising is a Scorpio Oh, I don't know any of this means. So prising Pisces I cry I'm like Berry, moody of my feelings perpetually. I'm very, very sensitive unreleased sensitive to like all people's emotions and take it on and then Scorpio they're like intimidating they're very sexual sign. I also have been crying a lot but I think it's periods coming I. cried over a picture of tomatoes the other day. I cried over the US. I cried over that too in the night we bought a USPS shirt because I was just like I. Don't know what the fuck do. It's a lot of stuff that's happening right now is very confusing and it's like well, why isn't Congress stopping this? Why aren't Democrats talking about this and then I was like Oh, because the Democrats are the same as the Republicans we didn't want Joe Biden. They decided we want to Joe Biden and we don't elect officials. They decide who we want to elect. It's literally insane. Yeah I'm. Not. I'm sad all the time. All the time and I think about how sad I am I'm sad to. And I think this like I'm real sad mostly because I'm like the world is really shady and then I'm sad because I'm like And I'm alot and I'm alone I know I'm really I. Want someone to hang out this spend quarantine with I don't want to be by myself my remake give me massages. Yes addressed I. Do try to make John Give me massages. Doesn't seem happy about it could have. Mike. Now like forcing you this good for anybody. Here. Yeah, it's not. It's never it's never good. Doesn't feel good to get a broker begrudging massage now for the use not for the one getting the it's always tough scenario. I went to this like a derive then movie which had never gone to before and I was like, okay. I guess I can get behind some of this like corona things that we're going to have to start doing but. I was there in like we got out of our cars after the movie just like talk for a little bit and I was there with one two, three, four fucking couples and I was like this and use six. Wow. It was. It really like this is this what it's GonNa. Be Like for the rest of my fucking wife or is it like is this what it's going to be like for the rush? Really made it a a happy thing but it was just sad I was so sad i. it's never good to be the only friend in a in a couple with a group of couples. My tonight was my friend's birthday. So we did like a social outdoor distance gathering and her boyfriend was like talking about how he liked her like how much appreciated getting to know her and I was like not jealous of him or anything but jealous of like their lives. Wish someone was talking about how much they liked me right now in my birthday cake. Chocolate Oreo. But you know what? That's life man. It is life and it is very funny that you articulated like that because I find it very hard to be like, oh, it's not like the relationship I'm jealous up. It's the life you guys have. Yeah. Exactly. Like I want this for me I. Know that's horrible. It's horrible. I truly have lately at night after I've open my second bottle of wine like why not me I- Nice I'm good. But I'm having a wicked temper Tantrum in my head. Totally. Totally. I've I've pitched a fit about the fact that I'm single because it's like hello I think actually the reason why we're go is because of anti blackness because we are fantastic people and we deserve to be loved and love is love is love is love is love limited and more. Weight Live Islam. Is Up my Lin Miranda's. He. Could the term love is love is love is love we did he really did he did he go like he had a slam poetry thing that was like Is. Is. Is Lab. You remember that. Forever. Now, favorites say love is love is love is love is love is love limo or Miranda that's it. I'm taking it from you. Know I owe credit. You'll be like Lynn Monroe. Miranda. Away. But. Yeah. But Hey, at the same time, it's a we could get into relationships with people who hate us that's easy. So it's better that we love ourselves. You know yeah, I, think you're right about that. See Way where are you from? New York no I'm from Massachusetts. Where are you from I'm from New Jersey? Did you date in Massachusetts I I was in high school like Middle School. So did I date it's not really I wouldn't like in high school had like idea to mimic like a boyfriend. I ever go to Massachusetts I'm like Oh boy not one person here is interested in me. It Massachusetts is a tough situation, but it has all those schools which has lots of young eligible Move to New York. On I moved to New York in two thousand fifteen tree sixteen I with Nature Congo for college and then moved to New York Chicago like the city or like outside of Chicago outside of Chicago I live. In Sin. El Okay. That's not super far my sister went to school in Urbana Champaign, which is like three hours south of Chicago yet, and it's literally just a Cornfield a beautiful cornfield with lots of great markets. No according field with like a Walmart, and then like the school and we dropped her off and I truly was like half friend. Why do you want to stay here which is so rude to say to somebody. Dropping them off at that choice. Yeah I mean think about all the people earn our who are proud to be from Bonna and they they have their salutes and they have their like swaggie. The. To About a person living in a college town is weird I don't know why any adult want to live in a college town. Yeah. It just seems like you're you're never really escape that that moment in your life I don't know where I would I would love to live in Chicago, but there's it's hard to be working entertainer living in Chicago. Yeah. Unless you had money money money money like co Dave Chapelle lives in fucking Ohio, but still you know works and performs. Yes. That's I. think that's a good situation where you have a big house lots of property and like. You're not involved in the drama unlike in a city where trash rats hate trashed and rats famously. Leaving New York City and you know and it's hard. Every day is a struggle. Everyday is a challenge but I personally beer I loved the rats. Rats I love them. They're like our little subway friends. I love. Subway creatures they keep us safe Omer. My Gosh. No they spread disease spread the plague. We do they. Really I thought they spread they spread the Barak Lake I. Don't know if they spread modern plagues but they do disease. Well, the modern plagues apparently are bats. It's all I this time period. I would argue. Charged with anybody. It is funny though because I spent a solid eight months of nine hundred being like twenty twenties my. Has. Yeah. The good people of twitter like to remind me that I, said, it was going to be my year and they're like, how do you feel now that it's bad in the world and I'm like you know it doesn't help that you're reminding me I thought this year was going to be good doesn't help to. Tiffany t you're negative. The thing is everybody's can't wait for this year to be over but twenty twenty s way on the side of the Kennedy Bass because nothing's going back to normal. This is this is life bet yeah this is life for a little bit and I don't think people realize that but also I'm like it's time we were a little bit more hygienic now preach yet I was like flying back from Texas the weekend before the La Lockdown happen because people were still. Like we don't know what's happening which I was like our government knew Beth is in January like why they let us walk around for three months idiots but at the airport was just like a now's everyone needs to be washing their hands for twenty seconds, which is some that's something I've known just like my whole life yet my mother it'd be like you didn't wash them long enough wash them longer and you're like, okay but people were making a production in the bathroom. Washing their hands and looking around and I was like who you looking at, you should have been doing this now I know you're nasty. Drag them I made the whole. Just the course twice and then you. Need Y'all counter twenty or no 'cause I mean no child left behind. We have problems. Left Behind Connie. Who taught you? That you didn't. Late ladies not used open and Mike who taught you that talk water kills things. Like blue. So nasty like this one lady on the plane went to the bathroom with no shoes on. No socks on. Her bearup fuck on bottom fee were just Pat Pat Pat Pat Pat to the bathroom and then she came out of the bathroom and said there's water on the floor and I was like, of course, there's water on the floor we're in the air we're in the sky like should sloshing around you done big rivalry. Yes gravity. Oh, boy everyone is filthy and then the whole mass thing I'm like but why would you want someone spittle during a pandemic on you? Just that basic thing. I I wouldn't want anybody spit on me during pandemic, but if I were to have a long committed spill. Yeah I would love for someone who loves ME TO SPIT DOWN MY throat just for A. Absolutely mortified over God I'd want to join a convent. My ex-boyfriend used to like dirty fingernails, and I would I would be like you can't. Touch me if your fingernails. And you'd be like an ongoing wash, my hands you're so meet. which is always tough. This is really upsetting for me is you think it's upsetting for me. Young I was so mad because it's just like I should have to look at your hands. It'd be like, Hey, if you can't get the the cheese if you don't go to the toilet like that's so embarrassing Waco. Adults. That's like something that a mother tells a child it's. A Preschool teacher tells a toddler. We you're an adult and his having doesn't like a high school boyfriend Oh. This was this was more recent than I'd care admit. I know. I have I have I famously have horrible taste and yeah. Famously of horrible taste. Due date other comedians. No good. That's good. I like like. Day like. What did I dated I dated guys who like work in finance or guys who went to like. Fifty colleges. I've never dated. A fancy college person I don't think they're they are as dumb as. I'm still stuck on these dirty fingernails how upsetting it is were they long fingernails also dirty or they shortened dirty? They were short dirty. Just like are you like at like bark? Off To. Me was he white. Famously boy. Oh, boy this. So I went on a date. Once this man who had long fingernails like interview vampire. I've talked about this way earlier episodes but like it was just so like how will you like finger me because men boy they really love to blast right home. Oh My. Gosh how are you going to do that? I was like, do I get to stop you I? It'd be like, please don't put your claws inside me. File his nails I mean John Neal's can be fresh if you have like a nanny that's cool. But you have to it has to be Trimdon treated like we get old regulus hair I like if they were buffed I. wouldn't have had an issue because that means he gets like manicures. Fine, that's fine that means they're like clean and you care about your hygiene or whatever. But like they weren't they really dull kind of yellow Oh. My God. You're trying to judge me. Silently. Date with him and the date ended when he said. All right. So you want to go back to my place and I was like actually no I've got a really early flight in the morning I can't he was like so we're not going back to my place and I was like. That that's how you get what you want. No. Yup Men are. I don't WanNa. Say Bad but they're bad. and. I. Recently got an email from this man who had listened to episode of the Pod and he was like well, if you don't like men so much weight what episode to the Woman Nab and he was like if you think men are trash, maybe you should be a lesbian and never Again, and I was like, Hey, man, thanks for listening every stream counts. said his full email on my ninety day fiance podcast. A couple of ladies emailed him to be like that's not nice. They're very nice group of people who was this ninety day fiance. Gosh. You have to pay five dollars so I think it's like if I'm paying for this, I'll be nice. I think I think that's why they're so nice. I Trust I trust I think he who led patronize people's Patriot arms. Are Your audiences. You know you're nice. So yeah, they'd better be. Not that my why wouldn't you date me? Fans aren't nice. They're all very nice and kind have they set you up on any day? No one has sent me up at any dates and I did this really horrific bits at my live show in. Arizona where this woman was like I've never had an orgasm and I was like, well, there's this writer called. Tracy's dog I'll get you one semi address and then I was like any woman who emails me I'll get them a tracy is dog and then two hundred women emailed me. Are you thinking. Did Not. Do I did I thought maybe ten with email me and I'll be like water and bit but then I was like I now have to buy two hundred vibrators as you so I bought maybe ten before I contacted or no this woman on twitter reached out she was like I work in the sex industry and I was like, okay, she's like I can try to find a contacted Tracy's dog to have them shipped. them out if you had a promo code and did a little bit like posting for them, I said what a God sent an angel. So she did that and then they fulfilled all to no one hundred and ninety orders they gave them all out the up and then they gave me a Promo Code. So then other people could buy them and it was like so wonderful that it happened they were so kind they were so nice. The only thing was after that episode people kept emailing me even though I put in the episode description, please email me. and. Then if the end of the episode, I like record it while I was Tori and I was in bed and I was like. Please I don't Kim were gone done pleased out and I still get emails now and I think the episodes over a year old. What can you serve everyone? I'm here I will send you a free way. If, you have your wait. No I guess I have your email address I have your address then have your. Physical address. Email you right now and ask for your. Do. They ask for your size? It's like size of your Labia like with the situation it's just like so okay, I'll describe it. It is I can't do two things at once training email you and describe this thing so. There's a sucker on one end and then it loops like a you part that goes in your actual la or vaginal whole and the way the whole of so you're in your vagina. You know trying to be corrected by the late eighties bothering this more than I know. You're just trying. So yeah, one the click suckers on and then other things in your vagina and then I like to hit the clip sucker I getting the and be like, ooh yea, he's down there he's on it and then you fire up the pussy hole one and then you're like Bubba Blah Blah. On. You're facing that whole description he like. Vaguely upset about the fact that I was describing this team here, you just taking this information. I interested to explore experiences so. I support I, support. I really wish people could see about. It was. Like. It was you know you were like something sheer. You can see the skin like a sheer version of like I hate this can I won't interrupt it? I'm so sorry, sir. No this is great. This is great. I think it's important that I have to confront. Not Don't love that is how I will grow as a woman. I'm to force you to be comfortable with things. What was going to ask you? Dang? Oh. I didn't take my medication. I was like, why can't I focus on anything. Oh, boy life is hard. It's very charcoal but we're alive. So shout out to that. We are alive and then the other day I was like but what if I could just sleep forever I? You will. Yes. One day I, will I don't think I want that now I just I just want life to be a little bit easier. I know I'm right. It sucks Oh, I don't remember I remember growing up as a kid and you don't really expect that this is your fate that this is how you're going to be spending a large part of your year but it's just like you gotta roll with the punches as and that's the type of attitude I will take into relationships for anybody that's listening would like to date me. With the women on my show have had the experience men have had a lot of men will come on. We'll Chitchat and then they'll go to colt my DM's are overflowing. It is a wild and I don't know if it happens for the ladies. So okay let's even happens. What are you looking for? A hot genius. Genius Okay is there anything more specific? Specifically that I WANNA man to yell out a window and I ask you where you want. Huge just see. Genius. Because that's what I want. I would like someone who's incredibly good looking and incredibly smart and whatever their field is if that's at that is their government if they are in banking if they are artists if they are goners I, don't discriminate but they just have to be someone who's a genius. Okay. Is there a template? Is there like a famous actor or musician philosopher that you liked the way they look and you want this person looks like them. I, I made it depends on the guy I'm very attracted to Ya Ya. Who's Yahya the guy from watchmen Who? Have, you not watched the watchman my haven't. Watched like a couple of minutes of it and I got really confused yet. Yeah. I. Mean it takes it takes an. Watched the first episode from start to finish but it's a great series in Yahya is a fantastic actor. So if you're if you're a black, you're like, okay what do I have to look like look like yourself but ya is so hit to me and I also move. It, the history, gorgeous gorgeous? Yeah, he does A. Gorgeous he's a piece of thirty four. He's six three Oh. My Gosh Nicole, you should call him. Okay. BEEP BOOP boop hi. It's me Nicole. You've never met me but do I have a woman for you by Ya Ya? Whose number was this? I'm going to see if he's got a girlfriend. I haven't I've never googled I want to know because that would not that I know him or whatever like approach someone like that But if you're talking about like celebrity crushes we he's with La La Anthony. He though he is I thought she was with Carello, today I. Guess. How interesting. Why did you tell me that? I'm really sorry about what's your problem? Why would you do that I'm realistic Pre pandemic they're not together anymore. Okay. Okay. Thank you. I got upset you're welcome. No, they're not together pre pandemic. It was in January. It's over because we're now in August isn't that crazy why not? It's wild where absolutely it's wild as wild. I also have a crash on Robert. Pattinson. ooh Yes, well, he's going to be the new man I know I I'm so excited for him because he's a fantastic. Is. Yes how dare you OK in my defense I truly have only seen him in the twilight movies image highlight move us. Are How you say bad they're not good. Their camp. I feel like. It's not camp because they feel like everyone was trying to make this dramatic and. Know, there's one scene where. Bell is her name no Bella Bella Bella falls down the stairs and ends up in the hospital and then her mom, you don't remember this. I know. We'll see I'll never forget it. She falls I'm. In the hospital and then her mom is sitting with her and she wakes up and she's like Oh. What happened and her mom goes you fell down the stairs and fill out the window you don't remember and the way she said it was so funny. Somebody would just be like you had an accident. Shares, fell off the window and then the baby they use was crazy looking the makeup was wild i. mean also the does the like folklore that he was. He was cold. Like shoot whenever she would touch him. He was freezing. So. He had you know he was had an icicle. Pene Oh my God that's truly wild. Imagine you have to have sex with ICICLE PENIS? I don't know. Thank you don't mind if I do know would. No that seems awful. Maybe open a Dildo in the freezer and. Unoriginal sceviour cut to twenty twenty. So. Nicole buyer. Off Her body into have when she. Sat on a frozen dildo. I mean that's the way I passed away. I think I only anybody would be sad. They'd be like she went out the way she wanted to go. She died as she lived. Absolutely cold. Maybe I wait Robert Pattinson twilight. So we what has he been in that? He's been like great. The Lighthouse good times on he was net lake gator. Yagi Times is that's the it was I. Think it was a twenty four in the in the SAFTEY brothers home, and he plays the brother. He plays like this small time fief who has a mentally challenged brother and and you just wash him sorta spiral out and get his brother into trouble on. Yeah. He's just like, yeah, it's it's really chaotic and manic, but he's a very good actor. He really is all right. Here's a can't movie that I think you should watch it's flight six, six six. It is I saw it on Amazon. It is the wildest movie. I've ever seen what? It's about a haunted plane and the ghost on the plane look like Nice contemporary women you're like what error are these people from, and then it gets answered at the end like the Third Act of the movie is fifteen minutes long and wraps movie in a way that you're like wait what. I. Loved it. It is truly I had a great time and I tweeted about it and a couple people were like I couldn't make it past thirty minutes in this movie and I was like well, you didn't try hard enough because delightful only God's flight six. I. Don't know if I'll ever forget on that maybe liberal next summer cuddling with someone. Let's watch flights. Now think. I would love to cuddle with someone the other night I was like, okay. He mistake these pillows up. So it feels like someone's here. My pillows, I got San. Nothing. New Arena saying I said I helped my pillows for not actually. I also like snuggle with Komo's in hold tight so they could never go. I saw this man on hinge. We have to wrap it up but I truly enjoyed talking to you this is This man on his hinge said, you should leave a comment if you dig. Shakespeare. Feminism or board games. He's a bad person, right like I don't want that you d you Dick Shakespeare. So I like Shakespearean adaptations. She's the man is one of the best movies I've ever seen in my life antastic film I really liked. The MCI, Feith Pfeiffer a fellow. Shen. Wow. Hey I feel that. Like if you dig feminism like do we have to talk about feminism what he's I think he I mean I don't know this person. Is it performance to say that you dig feminism on your dating profile I? Think it is perhaps And then there's been a lot of men who will have pictures of them at like protests and it'll be like don't leave a or like a comet of black lives matter and I'm like but this feels insane like. Just. I mean I guess it's me being you know idealistically like well, everybody should just feel like black lives matter and you shouldn't have to prove that you were protest maybe it comes up in conversation but like I don't know. That's a tough one because you don't want to feel like a column like it's like the electric slide whereas everybody clap your. Everybody say black lives matter. That's that you don't. You'd ever want it to feel like that but I don't know I once knew this guy would read. Tony Morrison on the train to attract women. So people have their motives some people just like Tony Morrison it depen-. Well. I wonder what I could do. Why don't take the train anymore I think I should hold we serve as orgasm. Book. You're kidding. Just make a bunch of lady friends. He'd be like Oh, my God. Oh, I know I know. There's nothing to do. I don't play House your house up to dearly I leave my house once a week. So I have escape gang. Love. Watching those videos. Thank you. I love skiing game we're going to have jackets made. But Yeah Tuesdays, that's the only truly the only thing I do escape gay on Tuesdays, and then I've been going to virtual strip shows, which has been fun. What is on virtual strip shows so a lot of. Girls from clubs will like band together and put on a zoom strip show. Have like themes a host everything. For me and my friends will hang out in a google hangout or google chat or whatever no google hangout. Each other one of us will play the like the zoom on like our phone or something. So we can all hear the music but will mute zoom on the computers. And we just kind of talk hang out drink and tip the girls. That is so fun. It's very fun. I. Think. It's cold. Cool cats. Oh my gosh that sounds fun. It's so much fun I think it's on Fridays at eight thirty I don't know if it's every week but it's like a nice way to support sex workers or strippers whatever you like to call them I. Don't know if they make the. Same amount they would make an club so like I try to over tip a little bit because I don't go out anymore so I can't afford to do that but it's truly so fun to see their homes and then some of the girls who don't have polls will eat Rahman in the bathtub and it's it's it's very fun. Hey, I love that. Man Right. We've come to them and. I didn't mean to end so abruptly but. We had our. Record more emotion it's. Do. You have anything no. Okay. I always ask people this almost fucking forgot. Would you date me? Yes. What a treat of questions you you would teach me new things I would teach me what evolve is we've learned so much about the human body because of your tutelage I would be like you know like in the old days in the Greek days they used to have mentors. You'd be mentor. I could be your mentor. I would do that because I feel like a young. So I would take you under my wing, you twenty, one, twenty, two, and Nineteen Goo Gaga. Oh yeah near. Lady let them. Leave anything you WANNA promote. Follow me on Instagram at the F.. My weekly live show is every Thursday at eight PM Eastern on. That's pretty much I have a book either book, but that doesn't come up for a while. ooh, that's fun. Do you know when it comes out twenty time to? That is a lyle. Twenty twenty one is literally almost here. So it's really won't be time this year has flown by, but also has moved. So slowly Yemen but we're live. So we're lucky to be alive. So Chateau are very lucky to be alive I. think it you cut a video with Aparna. where? You Asir, problematic questions she wouldn't answer them. So you just cut it together. So it was problematic is hardest I've laughed at a really locked is. Impossible to be so I decided to just two bit take my curb racism into my hands. It was really funny. Thank you? I think one of the was just like. You were like, who do you hate and it cuts to her being like Asian people. Like. Maybe. Thank you. Oh, my Gosh I love her. She's so funny. She's the best you're the bus. Thank you so much for doing this. Thank you for having me. This was so much fun game. Glad I'm waiting for the day. Someone's like I. Am really upset you made me do this and I hated it. This was stupid. You know pray for that. If you like this episode of Oh wow. You date me and like it you can subscribe. To Five Stars and if you send me something nasty I will read it. This person wrote a whole story I want to move into a we really large Manhattan apartment with you all set up my studio I'll teach you how to use my pottery wheel by sitting behind you shirtless I'm an actual potter will make a vase and then you'll playfully knock it over while we laugh and laugh, and then we'll make out we'll rubber all over the clay and Then we'll fuck hard albuquerque with a giant Dildo I accidentally ordered. This is true. I didn't really big. It was from the photos because they know your size clean and then later I'll get murdered in an impediment pluck on wrong. You'll be so sad at first then I'll come back as a ghost in fuck you even better than before because of goes powers I don't know funky Still GonNa you'll pass away and we'll both be horny Horny horny. Horny Ghost haunting the city and fucking. Okay. Bye I hope this reach the right email. It did. Thank you very much. bye-bye. That was a hit. Bam podcast.

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"The F----t Call" (w/ Chris Kelly and Sarah Schneider)

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2:01:44 hr | 2 years ago

"The F----t Call" (w/ Chris Kelly and Sarah Schneider)

"Hey, forever dog listeners. It's mean Cole Silverberg not the host of this podcast. You're listening to but I wanted to tell you about my new podcast coming out on forever. Talk on Monday, March eleventh, it's called Nicole's, Grey's anatomy. It is bravely podcast about the show grazed nanny that is still on the air. But it's not your typical recap show. We're not doing like three hundred episodes about three hundred episodes about Gray's. It's just me and comedians talking about the cases characters relationships parts of our lives parts of their lives. Everything about Gray's. Whether we watched it for fifteen seasons or just for two it is the ultimate fan podcast. And yet also for people who don't really watch her late grease. So I hope that you will listen you can subscribe on apple podcasts Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. There's judgement from me because it's a great Adamy podcast. There's no judgement whatsoever. And if your career. What a podcast about grades. This like stick around to the end of this episode, and you're gonna hear an exclusive sneak peak of my episode with Bowen Yang maybe you've heard of him doing a Sean Balogh, which is that classic shonda rhimes style monologue that you've heard in Gray's anatomy, scandal how to get away with murder the movie crossroads stick around. And listen, I hope you like it by. Oh, I see. Look over there is that culture is less. Reza's calling got the verve. And he met the verve in I feel that I was the one to give the flavor on that one. That's not to take anything away from you. You give flavor constantly all the time. I don't haven't been meeting you halfway with the flav. But I'm disappointed in myself. Why? So I'm happy that that went well saying the title of our pod because I'm disappointed with myself in other areas of my life. I I have to get out ahead of something get out ahead of what do you remember when I said, I was going to do a marathon at the end of the year at DisneyWorld, I was famously travel Disneyworld's to do a marathon there, and we nagging on this. We're not doing it. Why nine the Disney World marathon doesn't exist? It's nothing where did you hear about this? Okay. You are Erica and said we gotta to the marathon and Disney in November. Apparently, there is one. But it happened in January. There's a half marathon in Disney do the half. Right. Do it still thirteen mile data show excited that I was going to do something physical? You still your seven point two. You're still going to rent thirteen point one babies just out the same come on bass, I go there and do my own. You're still going to get the picture of you in the blanket and the and the aluminum blank. You're right. It's about the photo. It's about the photo. And you've been to DisneyWorld with me. We do do a marathon. We do a marathon. Despite what anyone wants I. But God, I mean, it doesn't feel like vacation. We're there because you are. I just wanna make sure we do everything. So here's the thing. And I'll get into it. I don't think we're with two Disney Queen. That's just hey, I don't know. I'll ask them. And it's fine. If not fine if not this plenty of room to grow in this life. But I will say I apologize to anyone that goes to Disney with me because I'm the kind of person. That's okay, cool. We gotta do this next thing. And I turned around to use Sudi Dave who we were all with. And they were like, no, we're adults who don't feel the need to run to the haunted mansion. Like, okay, cool. Yes. I mean, I think them getting better the beautiful thing about Disney is that you get to age up with it. Right. Like, there's this thing that pitas at the beautiful thing about as I heard people at work. I've talked about this people at work. I overheard conversations that people were being like before Christmas someone being like. Yeah. You know? I don't know what I'm doing for the holidays. I might just get a room at the grand Floridian and just do queens at us L there. Yeah. I don't want to name one. Why won't name one? I'm not surprised to hear that. But it's one I never expected him to be a Disney Queen. But he's at Disney. I think sketch comedy and Disney go hand in hand because we have immersive experiences. Yes. We've storytelling condense storytelling in both. Right. And speaking of convinced stories God. How about that though? How can we discuss what we just did? We got here. We went. Oh, last countries this listeners is this the way to say this word of the French ways of of. But then if you want to emulate that in in like English phonetics, it's like you would just say of and make it a silent are God the way that you are grabbing your brain right now to get the south there. It's buried deep within. Okay. So we went through the of. Yes of our guests. Yes. Oh, baby. I we said that famously well, you guys don't know this yet. But when you were honored one day at the Kennedy Kennedy Center on because you will get a Kennedy Center on I will perform it's a candle Christmas Christmas the Christmas candle. I will perform it not any of stars that I kind of did it. It will be me, and I will come out as Asian American. Yes. I will be Asian American doll. Asian American w present doing it. It'll be like girls this is for you. And sing the candle song you're looking at them. They'll be in the bathroom with the rainbow medals. And then president Alexandra he'll be like who the fuck was that. With time. You met him. That's my favorite thing that she'll be president. What no? Miss candle my favorite thing. And I remember the day came out I texted address, and I said who the fuck wrote down, and she said, do you think? Parentheses Kelly on a love at title card. Production company card is just parenthetical. Just what whatever as throwback to the is. And also, I mean, we've moved on from that. Because now we have the V show, and I truly I mean, look this point were were like five deepen our the other to this event. Theresa. Teresa's the other two events. I mean at this point you're on episode five, I think I think at this point chases gone to the dance or something. I hope he has a big spoiler. Chase goes to a dance. If we haven't yet got there, yet chases Beth chases about goes to the dance. But it's chase. They go to the dance. Right. I hope I hope. I hope we can cut this out of it as. There's there's still which one of those shows that starts good and gets gets out her come on that last little frame. I could not even believe season builds to that moment is what you don't realize say actually, it's comfortable for me to talk to you about them because I've a I have very little chill. I've waited to have them. I know since the beginning of getting of us doing this. Oh, Cucaracha uncle Rotschild. Time fire shirt share. Okay. Just really quick shared rundown of credits. Call tumor the onion king Saturday Night Live. They did one of them did an it gets better video for UCB. And like, I was a little zygote avail little faggot news. Like, this is really important that was moving so moving we are so an and now they are the creators of the new show the other two excited to and I have to say also yesterday. I watched other people. Oh my God. And other people come on come on. And I told our guest that I watched he's like today. I'm no casualty within the last few months. Now, you're now you're just coming out and saying. Full yesterday. Yeah. Love that. I'm those were so excited to have them turn to them. Now. Give an ear. Welcome to Chris Kelly, and Sarah Schneider. Interests are always emphatic. But that was like that was above and beyond. I would love to just not talk and just like watch. Well, just in general the time to be comfortable with that. You guys think you guys will have a Kennedy Center. Thank you guys have to answer this for your side gig. That's why I hope they got the plan is for both of you guys to steal roles from women. Yes. They can present us starting hard. Let's get into it. Let's. Deserve to steal these roles from likely now. The intro that one of us made an it gets better video. One of the guests today. What would you say? You're saying it's better nine years later. Goes though. It gets bad. It gets better. Let's go around does get better Sarah for for me. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, great, Chris. Yeah. Better. Because I mean it used to be bad. It's a now it's better now. Now, it's better. And the thing is like I will say well, did it get better for you? It I wanna say it's a wash with my parents. But. Another terms. It's been great. Were you gonna say I was gonna say in watching other people yesterday? What? And now I'm going to pivot to being more serious. If you believe that. Is going to be quick. I was just really like what what moved me so much about it is you really do get across this like kind of experience of like like a like a gay guy kind of coming into his own trying to figure out how to be gay. That's like a like a even with Carey in other to like, that's like a big like this just so much there with like him trying to figure out how to fit into this like gay world. And also with the character of David to flee like like kind of like being like oh about grinder and about. Okay, cupid, but you get that that comes from a place of like being afraid of it. So that's just like really moved me about it got it was just kind of like I felt not to be the person. Who's like I felt scene. I think a lot of people will feel seen by the show too. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. I hope so I I love it so much the Jim thank you for watching. He's in. That's thank you. That's very nice in Alice. I don't binge everything. No shit out there on Benjamin name. Okay. Drag. Okay been. Like can barely bench house of cards and it's made to bench. Sure, I can binge. I couldn't even been just what you're starting house of cards. Now, you're started season. Now. To say that it got worse has been seasons. One and two Benjamin. I think after seasons four five who knows six. Yeah. Binjai tried to but couldn't bench succession. Felt like I needed time between them or something or just like not going back to something. But then I've been just the last three which kind of makes sense because this three were like the greatest bien. Oh, I have to see succession fan of MRs Mazel. I am that I had was my ally. Here. I don't know both. Okay. Go the the first season. I think was a little bit harder to like really got through and the second season. I think Benjamin it's it's just like candy to me. It's like. On TV. That's actually closer number fourteen. Marvelous a bath on. That one fourteen fourteen approximately eight thousand rules have been real number fourteen. That's not for us to figure out. Chris was your I was going to ask like what have you've been binging? But that's such obsessions. What have I been binging? What I've been binging. I don't know. What do I been binge binge? Watch. Okay. Life to the game on that. Yes. But Helena was telling me about this that Matt would be your ally. Sarah for MRs basil and Chris's ally for killing because you don't like it because he's scary. He's nervous that it's going to scare saying, it's not scary. I'm a very anxious person. Like the first like episode like she kills that guy with spoiler alert like killing and killing. That big stick. And like, yeah. That's not really what the show know. Funny. Do so it's not like full scary. It's not like one of Paul Frank D'Arcy carton is the same way. She does not like scary thing. We all went as a group to see annihilation. The movie that he made before the next month. She's like, I don't wanna see this. It's going to be scared. We were it's not gonna be scary ex mocking was not there's no jumps gore. Annihilation? In this. So fucking rough and tough the whole time through it's disgusting. It's gross. There scares everywhere. She sat so frightened when the movie was over. I think she was like that was not me. And also, thank you, tell me that if she wasn't mentioned by name on this podcast. She. Mentioned at length. So you're welcome. Dr. I forget an Irish, and I would never put myself through that. Eve which is a comedy. It's face in it. Yeah. What's your face who not only Portman Phoebe people Bush rated it produces it. Okay. She. Death fresh. Pallandt it so miss comas that she's actually she's like twenty I know is not if you're is. I know actually did Google are agent was less into the show. Mad? Whenever anyone's young. We see hereditary. Fuck that. I loved my highlights scary movie. See I hate them, buddy. Really? But the allies we're just allies and that's cross able. When life in like an hour when the apocalypse is like, it's me. Okay. Great. Scared to death. The first to die because though. Okay. So I going back to Disney very thank you for doing. So I the one thing that I will say I also ally with you on is d like the like organization of like this needs to be planned out and timed unlike hurry up because we're gonna miss things. I don't apply specifically might bring to Disney to Disney trip. But when you're talking about that I was like that is highlight would be there once the apocalypse. We will be very well organized and trying to get through stuff. You know? I agree come in the door. And that would. I always say like I'm going to be the person. It's like, okay, cool. We have to run I have to charge. My phone. Ten percent. You gotta get the external bad. I've probably should just walk out and get killed. Get it would be easier. I don't know I would surrender surrender my life. Immediately. Not to be like just kill me. Now. I don't want to so good nature. No. I'm not going to him and think good in mater. No Mattis base in nature, like hiking. No know, we tripped on it with Sudi on me. We all did this. And I just observed and I said you belong in the woods. Okay. Well, I'm just saying I don't know what that means either. I trust you. And I guess you since you allies absolutely take that to lead the way in the NBA. Zombie. I was so I can tie not since. Can you still Yagi or not I will say I have never seen her fucking? Twenty four hours a day bitch Titus single fire in front of me. She made camp in front of the whole, Mike. And that's like like when you watch them on survivor like do the show. Let's talk about survivor, but that's my favorite show this straight. Roommate who likes her -vivor is based. Carries a little based on me, but mostly the straight. Roommate is verbatim. Me. Wow. I love it. I love it. Yeah. There's I think there's something. I actually was obsessed with it too in the early days, but you still watch. Phrased in a way that makes me monitoring. Yes. I didn't watch thoroughly all the way through I came back to it renaissance with me. And also Sarah's answer for what she's been binging is survivor because I've talked about it so much. Yes. The only way she can shut it down is to say. Yes, I know what you're saying. He was like if you've I've spoken about this for the years that we've been friends with this season really is season. That's ever been Mike white on it. It's like a lot. Like a lot. Yeah. Really fun. It's great. But he'll because we've been doing interviews for the show and people want to ask us like what TV are you watching? And I'm like the real answer is not what you want survivor season thirty. And Sarah was like I'm going to watch it. And I was like all come over. I would like to see it again. So he does well on the show. He Mike why I'm not I'm not done this season. So I don't know how it ends. Wow. Okay. My sister. And she's and she even knows who Mike white. What did you fall off girl? I think probably season six Amazon this gentle won miss Jenna. Yeah. It was the season de member this crazy season where they had a challenge where they were all standing on planks in the water. And they were like we'll take our all of our clothes off for chocolate. Now. That's that's that's. He's in. Yeah. Yeah. That was oh, well, this was the first time and all the women were like we will get naked for chopping Jeff Probst. I did that I stopped watching survivor, and then I went on a date with someone who was a contestant on survivor, and I didn't know it at the time. We just went out on a date, and he was great, and we were making small talk. And I was like how are you? And he's been traveling. And I was like where have you been and set some country, and I was like how long were you there for and he was like, I'm like thirty nine days. Every question was a weight. And the date turned into me just being like, well, and then what you eat all day. Are you boy how do the cameras get the wide shots and the closest they read you the like, I just yeah. I was so rudely stopped the date and was interviewing him and then went home and binged his whole season that night show. Yeah. He made it far. I know that was years and watching it I've been watching it. Whatever said, wow. Yeah. I have to say season to survivor that was the shit. And there's nothing that this supports me more than what happened with Elizabeth. Because Elizabeth filler sqi was America's sweetheart and then. Out. What's going on with her up here? Yeah. It was always there. It was always there chilling. What what season did this up you win one-season four Markacia McKay? So I can't even have this. This is good. But it's like, I don't know. I have already seven thirty. I believe marquesses was season for but for step Lia one. And it was wow. Now, I love to mention recepient. Allow such a good so fun where she now don't know. Well, they've done winter seasons. Right. Oh, no. Have they done all winter seasons? No. I don't think. So. This out like in the snow. That's love reality. TV in general. Yeah. Got it. Got it was kind of like what we would watch every week coming home from us now is your soul like buzzing and you've been so mentally engaged for so many hours. And we were like we need just injured. Yeah. So deeply how much work it takes to make something. I can't watch another comedy while I'm making a comedy. I just can see the word action. There's something about watching the real housewives, for example that so fun because like if you're in the edit for your show, like it's fun to watch the edited housewives because there's no continuity, nothing has to match down like this fucking free for truly the while doing their own thing. It's the wild west there. It doesn't feel like the same thing. It's not the same thing. Yeah. I'm so happy you guys watched. Because my I don't think so Honey later is how is related. You're what you're going to do. I think you do. Now. It's specific city. It's it's I Pacific sitting in a spin specific cast member who I've always been on board with but not anymore. Oh, I remember. Yeah. Tell me if you think this is true, you guys love the house. New York, and I watch Beverly. I watched New York Beverly Hills in Atlanta Atlanta is by far the best one the best. Okay. But but Beverly Hills at its peak was on par. Like you're talking about. Death. A man died recently went back in like rediscovered that and I was like these Darcus television. Yeah. So now what Sarah saying now that they're all alive? Into staff. Hells? No, one on that show has a legitimate sense of humor boring. They're so self serious. And it also I think that they think they're funny men in New York, those girls are so fucking funny. Get it I I about this. Would you like that episode of them like in Mexico when there wouldn't remote shit is on the floor? They're having a blast. The editors are like everyone's having fun. Everyone my boyfriend we had the premiere party for our show on Thursday and my boyfriend I saw him. I just looked over. We were laying in bed together. Oh. Breaking news on the pond, but I looked over. And I could kind of see the cornermen I that he appeared to be on Countess Louis Instagram, and I saw him than typing a message, and I was like are you DM Countess Lou win. And he was like I'm inviting her to the premier party out of the he was just like, hey, we love you come to the premier party tonight. It's at this hotel this time. Obviously, she didn't come. But he was like she could not obviously that feels like that had like a fifty fifty percent chance. I bet she she had a cabaret or something like. I knew she wouldn't come. I did think there was a chance. She would have responded like, hey, sorry, Bobby. I can't make it. She doesn't. Hey, Bobby would come would have gone Durand. Durand, it would have gone Arinda. She would have been fun to have been you seem to act up at parties. I feel like is within like would go to that kind of thing. Right. Yeah. But okay because we're all here. And we all watched New York housewives. We just talked about us Bethany. The there's there's nothing just such a somber tone, all of let's talk about that thing. And honestly, I don't think so Honey today was almost people who say they identify as a. How you who says this all the time who I want to throw out of a window every time she says it suty green. Let's talk about Sudi fucking. Honestly, she says she identifies as the Bethany. I'm like a human being empathy for others. You're not that. I feel like I get that to a couple of seasons ago. And now, it's just she's full on. It's it's getting worse and worse every season. But I also could see within the cast you had to identify with one. We would all say Bethany I saved her inbound that's until I got drunk, and then I might get a little dark a little. You describe dark. You're into because of that reason Joe like watching scary movies, and that is a horror show like that. That's an Horry and policy. I'm scared to say who I really have who are you real Mona? No remond. Remond I say so Sudi is more than she thinks you CD's Sonya. I think when she gets drunk. They get the same look in her eyes. They do. I might be a Sonia to you're not. Sonia's the only truly deeply kind nice person. I think I mean, she nicest of all of them. I think she a good heart. She's an idiot ju- separate for me. She was kind of like the cruel on purpose in the last season to. Yeah. Like just talking talking shit. It's slow we did interact with Tinsley. So we I learned. I just love those those girls housewives every episode. You're just like your the straight, man. They're crazy. And you are the normal one. Wait. No. You are crazy. She's the straight never permutations are constantly shifting. No. I'm carol. You say literally it was like who is. But Boeing is Carole Radziwill take better for us. Because it kind kinda means and boring. It doesn't mean that at all. So people do that too Carol. She's my favorite. Ever really sad. She's gone. Would there is nothing? I would rather do like then go to the Catskills with them while they're shooting and just sit behind the scenes on a couch watch how they film it won. Like, how real it is that they reset themselves. They're mad. And then when they cut there, I I would love to how just how real it is. I believe that it's really thick in Beverly Hills. I believe that how fake noth like I believe that. It's like the drama seems the most real from in Beverly Hills. Like, do you? Remember that episode Erica Jane went black in the is. Yes. Yes. What is our lives? What's her name? The EMMY winning actress who at least remember, honestly, no. No. I am running born blonde white. Oh, that's good. Because you know, can't help it. That's the closest we've gotten to who's the yet. Beverly hills. Then I'm Renna Erica Jane rising, which. No, no erica's cancelled. She's Erica stance. Trump. She is like pandered harsh p not cancelled Nabet this isn't going to be up for two months. She's canceled at the time this. Erica Jane is next on the list. Okay. Sorry. That's just my watch by really holds. But when I look in the mirror. Oh my God. So yeah, Kyle thinks she's Bethany she thinks season. She thinks she's the funny like voice of reason. She's a boring human being. These are real people in the world, you forget separated or something because they're so this is going to be a person that calls. We don't care about that. We find it was like Kenya. Moore was on watch. What happens live time in Michael Rapaport was on with her. And I guess the Michael Rapaport is like a huge house. I've said who had been coming for Kenya. More months, and they have like a very contentious. Wow. Like watch what happens live appearance, but that's not going to happen to you guys know, they're fine. They're making fifty bucks per cameo video. That's true. And they're just very wealthy though. You know who follows me on Twitter. Cynthia bailey. Oh, great. We love Cynthia live for Cynthia. But why are you following me? Follow. Don't nothing. Good to say. I feel like one day. I'm going to be like Namie sucks like on. It's gonna Cynthia will go off look. Okay. What would you have to? What do you have to say about Bethany? You brought her up for all. I think the sheep tries to play the game. And it's just not I think she's doing it. Well when I'm in. I think that her personal shit is getting so much that she's like trying to juggle that real stuff and also play the housewives game. And I think it looks ugly. Like, the whole Bethany Carol fight to me was just like now that was such a bummer. Oh god. No. But I also think there's times she's she is the most like feels like a real person with a real brain think she's faster quicker smarter meaner than all the other girls. And so just when she's mean to them, it's just punching down too much. Yeah. It's just so like Bethany year, right? But like they can't fight with you like they are you're in a different like European-level, and it just looks pathetic and season after season. I would be like yes, Bethany tell them announ. Like, it's route girl like we all know that. You're don't do this like, I know. Yeah. Yeah. She's got jokes was so crazy 'cause you're in Carol. So we're so close and then to be like you and have a career and then have that clearly hit hard. And then go after it so many times I was like this is your your legit best friends reunion. I'm like, you are think we're real friends outside the shows gross to watch. Was gust amaze me? Deeply her jeans her new jeans. Her new G line. You're right. She's she's she's done more. Also, I just say yes Bethany has jokes. But the stock template Bethany joke, which I think she has to fucking retire. What am I in goodfellas? Like, she's always like, what am I what am I mobster? What am I what am I in? The godfather always mom movie reference. I can't believe no one's done here on smash game on drag just worth. Yeah. Just because I feel like it'd be a good opportunity. Just leave. She's always leaving. I gotta go fifteen minutes ago. My apartment is very very bad place. All always moving always moving favorite, my favorite, whereas everyone for dinner time. That's me with her. For anyone who who makes it to a supervising writer at us. And they are the best. You too. Right. I mean, listen you guys identifies. Bethany and I'm sorry. I don't not relate to aspects over and can previous seasons. I would confidently say that. But I think she's gone overboard embarrassing to watch her now, I'm more like behind closed doors Bethany or something out with her like. Close the door and do it Justice credit close the door. Got that. If you're going to be a Bethany you got to close the door. You can have a space. I seventy five age you got to close the door closed door were you closed door. Base you, and I just told me on had long housewives ask cinematic conversation wasn't cinematic. But like, you know, we we felt like we had like a housewife. We did was I reading us to you you you felt a lot like. You were you you're like Bethany? Like, you really giving out a lot of information being very leak breathless with all of this. And I felt like a various I felt like sober Arinda. I was like I was like being very. I'm. So we we've you're not really Disney Queen. I'm for Disney. I'm not pro or con. I am fine with it. Right. Yeah. I was gonna ask you if you guys like astrology now. So we don't believe you. Okay. Can I tell you something as of late? I've realized that me as a waterside I get along with a lot of water science. And that you saying that I felt like a Bethany behind closed doors on my base. Maybe think I wonder what Bethany is article sinus. And I bet she's a Taurus or a Scorpio. There's no way to know. But also this. None of it's real. What are you pice? Okay. What are you Scorpio and everyone's liberal, and I tell them it's not real. It's not real suiting. I sat at dinner in L A, and the people these two gays next to us these middle aged gays next, and they would like. They were they were like an also he believes in astrology. And it's like this is what they said what one of them said he goes he believes in astrology, and it's like use your brain. No city. Guess virgo? Oh, I'm I'm supposed to marry Virgo. Takes you take your. That's honestly in like, a total societal breakdown allies. Beautiful if society collapsed, I will g. Show that's show show. It's plus batch. Right. Plus batch. It's a reality show. Like like, right, right. You're right. The romantic aspect and the survival aspect exact, oh, you guys watch batch. Yeah. I saw. Yeah. I was like really rolling and loving it until that Ari airy season, I couldn't care less. This one's a little bit of it. I'm watching this virgin also. But the thing is the rumor is that he's causing and we're gonna I feel kind of weird talking about it. I also prefer watching it the other way I prefer when it's a man or a woman picking from Benjamin. 'cause it's I don't know. Why it's I mean, there's more hot people to look at that. And also, I feel very strange like watching these like women, get manipulating. Producing just really doesn't smell right anymore. And also, I find that. I'm rooting for the bachelorette in a way for. Yeah. Yeah. That's just so so dumb to watch just like eight Agra men being like just fighting with each other in the house. It's so. It doesn't go anywhere until you're emotionally or intellectually just like you guys are bad. It's own tail. Yeah. We hurry. Talking to recently that told us maybe just need that they often have to reshoot the entrances, which is not just who. Who? Coming up and saying they're like dumb little thing. Just because like DRAM didn't work or they missed it with a didn't work. But can you imagine doing your dumb little intro meeting? Someone for the first time again, especially. Dress a popsicle she can use to take. No, she's pops. That's what she has on the board and the. That's what she is. But did you see the one girl who came out with a Austrailia accent? I heard about this and this girl cater with an Australian accent. And then she didn't have one in real. She was what was really what she comes in with an Australian accent. Then he goes I like the accent. And she says she never says I'm a stray he says I was hoping you'd be it's an Australian accent. I was hoping you'd be a sucker for access. She says in a way where she had to go to court. She can say your honor. I never legally. She worked to this day. She never technically lied legally protected. Her her council told you got to say it this way this way, you're fucked. They will take you. My favorite, especially I mean, this happens in a lot of episodes. But in the first one that night is so fucking long that when they kick them off. And then the girls do their testimonials being like, I'm sad. It didn't work bright hot noon, this it's been dawn. And then it's a full new day for the like they have to start right? Hot night redo entrances. And they've to re shoot sees. Yes. It's like a full you see the work of production. And yet, they're so tired. Down. Just like oh my God. He's watching always was like, why are these girls getting so drunk and like three hours? That's so, but it's literally like two our shoes I get that. I would have also done. That's why like if there's ever gave batch. I can -absolutely not beyond. I will be crazy twelve hours in tired. Thank you. I think you can be on it. I gotta say I think you absolutely will be on it. Say something gonna find twenty five people and not have you on. Actually one hundred percent, right. But I would have to do it where I was the fan favorite on the star. And then the bachelor who so you'll be like, hey, guys. I will do it all obvious to be the fan favorite truly. 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It's defining pop culture early in your life. Whether it be a movie sort of television show musical artists. Whatever any sort of thing that made you say looking back. Okay. That was defining. Let's sarah. I I know I'm trying to think really. It can be multiple answers to my. I thought that I had was a song. And it was a survey says I saw the sign. The reason I thought that was because basically I felt I was always a little behind in school socially, like the last person to know what a blow job was and too afraid to ask. And that song everyone knew all of a sudden. And I like didn't have MTV my house because we couldn't afford cable didn't have didn't listen to modern radio. They didn't like it. And I literally was just like everyone knows this song. And I just didn't know it wasn't formative and probably a bad way that I was like I now have to be up to date or catch up on things. Because something is popular you have to at least try at least try. Yeah. Which is probably not good. Oh, no. It's scary. There's a lot of the things that were popular were like Eminem. And then I m a minute was like what? Yeah. Hurting my feelings. This is hurting me. Next track. It's was stand. Listen to Eminem. Can you believe that the word I like ice stand for this comes from the song stand? Does have. Yes. But it's also superfan. Right. Like like fans. He I don't know where the comes from. I only. Ago. Yeah. That's sucks because I tell you something everyone stand that he doesn't end well for stay. Remember, the extremely popular song. But that thing of having to opt into the culture that for me with Britney Spears like one day came into school in everyone knew who this person was. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. But there wasn't a lot of long term benefits you though, right? They didn't they didn't have you invested a lot of of base just emotionally ace of base that represents this sisyphean thing that everyone is like the first time those two things have been said, what is it? It's it's rolls up a rock on the hell. And then it rolls back down. He's going to do it all over again until the rest of time. Like, that's his thing. This is this is the thing that we go through now where it's like there's always going to be of some fucking thing that we have to like get up to speed on. Also, that's an amazing answer. Because it was just the song that like do. Remember, the song parodies were came out of? I saw the sign by. I I saw the sign. It must have been easy to write. It was long as it was the first song parody. I ever heard was ever ever. I on parody was I saw your mom, and she opened up her legs and said come on. And then. And raping like, what is this hurts, my feelings friend. My friend. Oh, my friend. I saw my mom and my mom did the split. Like, I didn't what with that. There you go. Honestly, that's that's a good answer. How about you? I wasn't sure. What answer is it's supposed to be when we were very young. It can be when you look back in. You're like, okay. That was a thing. I remember from my youth. Guess course, first thing I remember being very like like drippy about like own like God. This was Felicity which is. But I had to write a fine line because I think I was obviously in high school or junior high school. I was in second grade. It was just sports closeted. And I had the vague sense. That even watching it looked gays. So I would watch it late at night. I would record it and I would pair with a late night SNL episode or something, but I would watch. I mean, it's the dumping that everybody says she went to school in New York's I wanted to go to NYU because of her and at the time, I never even heard her say university of New York 'cause she didn't go to NYU, right? It was university of university of the brain never heard that my brain just always heard NYU, I was telling Sarah this because she also worked at Dino DeLuca, and then my family. I mean, she didn't listen today. And my family, and I went on a trip to New York, and I was in like tenth grade. And we went and waited outside the today show because my mom wanted to see his the woman, Katie is the woman. She's the woman. Katie mounted to see Katy Kirk. So we all waited in that line on TV with signs that were like, we love you, Katie. And there are photos, and I think video proof everyone excited and me full back to camera staring at the dean and DeLuca behind them. I was like, Felicity. I know she doesn't really work there. But God look at them. And that's what I'll do I'll move to New York and over. I go to NYU, and then I did not get into NYU. And I did not go. I loved that show. Oh, yeah. No that that's that's JJ. That's J for you. I am. I am lost. Boy. I love them a loss. I love them. Are you lost? Yeah. I think I went through the exact same experience that everybody else went through law straits. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, and the wolf did you did you like try to pretend that it was still good even when it was objectively bad towards the end there. Yes. I think. Yeah. Yeah. I did too. I threw huge rally party with themed streets. Yeah. Oh, name some. Now, I did that with Sankei cts overhanging my kitchen, and I had put the numbers up under the things like went and looked under them when I when Seinfeld ended when I was in high school because I was obsessed with Seinfeld. I would buy all the magazines that rank all the episodes give like episode one four and a minus episode to a wannabe, plus, and I made a spreadsheet where I graded all of them. And then I gave each migrate no of time. After that. And then when the finale happened, my mom was like, you can all make you whatever food you want will watch it as a family, you can invite friends over. And I was like I don't want anyone there. I don't want you there. I want you guys to make me the meal, and you set it down for me. And then you guys can watch on the upstairs TV, right? So I watched fully alone the series finale this. Here's my family was I had to go upstairs to watch it quietly because I want them in my I line. Yeah. We. One more story off kind of the obsession of that. I think you'll specific one get I love Dawson's creek. And I. Wanted to take all the episodes. So I could watch them back. And so I will go to target and buy these ten packs of via via chess tapes. And there was only one episode allowed per tape. I would look at the name of it and write it on the side. But one time I went to tape in. And I ran out I had run out of my lake specific white tapes from target, and I cried, and I cried and cried because I had one episode was on like a Kodak VHS that we had around the house or something. But Mike set was incomplete. I did that with them safely. Yeah. Oh important to you. At that age. They are very the end of the world. I remember like you couldn't just like go online and watch something like I was very upset with American idol like. Uh-huh vary. And so I would use my visa I use my what the thing. My thing came to me. Go. VHS tape. The the live rounds of American idol. I would watch Kelly Clarkson's first performance on like Motown Witcher's anger, all I need again. And again, and again, and then it got taped over my like was a football coach in a high varsity coach any is nothing like putting your tape in that says, Kelly Clarkson and seeing like. A. All I was. I second. I didn't realize he was taping over it with. I thought he was being like boy tipping over these. Watching football. It wasn't like that. Although he did one time come in. And I was listening to green Finch and Linnet bird from the Sweeney Todd soundtrack. And he's like, why are you listening to this poll? Much about her. Can I tell mine the opposite, basically? Okay. I would tape episodes of Matt TV because it came on at ten then asked an came out and eleven thirty and then I was burning through so many tapes, and my parents wouldn't buy me new ones that I started to take over like home. Psychotic. To prison. I I'm telling you. All this guilt is like hitting me like a fucking Rick's. Right. You're really their home. I will never see. Raid is racing in like how to let you off the hook. There's no way. We discussed here is. No don't think they know. I think some going to be like, wow. Let's we haven't seen in twenty seven thousand years. Let's put this. Do we have an old VHS? Let's put it in. Let's see. Oh Bowman seventh birthday. And then it's going to be fucking like stew. And. I get you. They'll have a good laugh. Well, I don't know. They won't. But that's. Mango? They're going to be like, okay. Yeah. This really is our son. This is our son. Anyway, I loved mango. Okay to say jaylo came out with John Mangum. They don't notice. That was. Little. The desert myst-. And this is the dance Jalen hosted the whole sketch was just the two of them hating. It was just like and the and the thing that I went bonkers for was them singing was mango going, mango and jaylo wanting to out sing mango, Matt jaylo, and they just kept doing that over and over again. And this is the greatest thing I've ever seen. Anyway, I can't believe in shared that. No. Well, I'm happy that you did. Because it got us to talk about. Not only did he verbally pivot. But he physically. The biggest about hosting a podcast with his three. Other people is your turn. Where'd you? So did you meet at us annot? Yes. Like, AVI, cheddar mash, but we didn't really know each other. And then we started the same year. Right. The two of us that canon who created Detroiters. We started to other. Yeah. Yeah. So was that like when you started there, did you kind of immediately latch onto each other. Or did it take a minute? We wrote a sketch first week, but we. Random. I shit guy. Got put an office within the SIEM. And you were in office with Abby Elliott, and we wrote a character sketch with Zemun Alec Baldwin as the host that first week. So right away, we wrote something together. But if L random like, then there'd be weeks where we didn't the first year was like a free for all. And you're trying to figure out who your good with. And who will even give you the time of day also started when like we came in when everyone was so much older than us like it was Kristen last year. And that was like a transition. Yeah. And they were lovely nice. But all people who'd been there together forever. Yeah. So that's yeah. So I think by the time that end of our first year beginning of our second year started we were writing together time when did the first let because I feel like you guys are at conic for like these girls. And yes, I say that the the girl group like music video. So when did was doing on my bed the first one that was our third year. Yeah. Yes. How good I was so fun. I think so good that was just Chris's idea. But it was the girls wanted to think Kate and eighty and maybe Matt gnaws the directors wanted to do a music video for the women were like why does that happen? All these girls are great. They also growing and then and I like loved like when lazy Sunday came out. It was huge for me. I like memorized at I love I thought it was so fun and different for the show and just funny, and they clearly were letting them just go off and make something they were making it with their own money like truly and I loved that if elderly ground like grassroots and. Yeah. And so I when we started we both. I mean, we with gravitated to videos, but be able to like do quote, unquote, Harvard, and whatever of like a music video digital where it was really fun. Yeah. I'll never forget. The first time seeing what like when the lonely island kind of got like a budget there. My pad. Yeah. And I love to mother lover. Great love motherless. I was watching with my dad, and I was like laughing. I truly I feel like you guys like laid the groundwork for well, basically, what I'll say I was trying to put this in in my Connick. And you're saying they laid the groundwork known as very Kennedy's honors. Honors. No, I what I've done in the last three weeks, and like, whatever the nothing's made it path to the show, whatever. Okay. So but nothing's gone. I I will just open. Twin bed like not combat leaders will open those files just I save them locally to. So it doesn't get compromised on the. There's a server whatever save them locally. I opened up those files and just like transcribe them. I just retype him. I just have one win to open. I have another type it out over and over. And like just like I did this with Asian American to when I was meeting packets like us to transport what does the transcribing just just generally typing? Whatever you guys typed, just so I get a sense of like the structure interest beats and like, yeah. Way you guys like where you gets put what? Yeah. I don't know like. Like, I don't know if it actually helps. But for me, it feels like whatever it's that. Sure. You're going through now. But like, yeah, when you started SNL, even if you've been writing sketch for very long time, it's just different starting at zero. Again, it feels it's very different. It's different in the way that like we right in Microsoft Word mongers, like also just how things work like it takes awhile to figure out how things work on a live sketch how things work in video sketch. Yeah. It's it's I forgot about that. That is like known early talks about that. There is a full archive online on the SNL server where you can go to any episode episode from from and just read the script. And I do the same thing with stuff. That's south had written. I transcribe it. But I would go back to just be like. Yeah. How did he structure this like how why why did this live joke specifically work and I loved and it was just so helpful to like see it's plotted out like that. That's yeah. It's a great. It's a great resource. It's such. I'm like this is like who knows how long have this like as like access to this. And I'm just like it's pretty anew, really, bucking bell and beauty and the beast. I wanna know like so you are at the show for a few years. And then you guys become head writers. Obviously kind of like the responsibilities become a little different at that point. When your head writers. Are you kind of tasked with taking on the really the political stuff? How does that work, sir? No. I mean, we had been writing we wrote Hillary with Kate like a year and a half before that I mean, truly so long. And so, you know, SNL once you read a character, that's your hair. So you write it every time. And so then it had kind of snowball effect. So then we wrote her all throughout the primaries than when she would go up against Bernie because we already wrote Hillary now writing Bernie, then she made it to Trump. So then now our rating, so he kind of growing because of that. And I think also because you were head writers to we also people would turn to assume that we would do a lot of it. Because when we've started Seth as the head writer, and that he just like in my mind, head writer does do that way. Cousin him weirdly my for. Anything about. Now my first week on the show. My absolute first week. It was maybe at the very very beginning of the twenty twelve election very getting like primaries and on Monday pitch. I pitched a debate sketch parody. And it was fine is just a pinch. And then I was like sweet like, and then I'll write up the debate. And I could feel very no one was rude about it. Everyone is very lovely. But the the very tense vibe of like, we don't need that from you right now first week, but I instantly was like I wanna do politics. I've seen them do it. And I wanna do right, right? Right. Right. Right after I mean Palin and all that stuff. Like, that's what I was like. I like that. I have to think like so when you submit SNL like are you sitting and you're thinking to yourself like because in this emission, they encourage you, obviously a political sketch. Did you guys always see yourself as being like the political writers on that show? Is that always something that you liked writing about? No, not I didn't I loved watching it. But I just never I was never super drawn to it right in in my right eye. I mean, I was like I loved us out for years growing up in specifically like the political seasons. Like, I was always very envious during the Palin. Can you imagine? So I guess I wanted to and I liked it. But I didn't presume, especially if the first week that I would ever be the one that got to do it. Right. We wrote a lot of like topical or like social commentary type sketches that felt like a Jason to. Yeah. Like people thought of us to do political stuff. Yeah. Has we were doing stuff close to it? Maybe I also a lot of it was Kate to we wrote for Kate. And she played Hillary. Course those also this first couple years. I weirdly did help on debate sketches. But it was because I what was. Bethany behind closed doors going to the bathroom closet using. She was being there. It was because I found that I was really good at pitching in. Rick Perry's voice because he was just played like a big dummy like a big silly dummy. So I didn't I did not write anything that was actually politically political commentary. There were just like what would Rick Perry say I was like here's a. So it was like Titanic lurking on the debate sketches, but nothing that actually mattered. I have to imagine like I was talking to Sudi about this. I was like when you're there like these moments. Aren't they have to do they feel as big like when Hillary comes? What's the biggest moment? Like where you really this is fuck great. We had. I mean, we we've talked about this before because it's very easy at us. Now what you know to just it's such a stressful job, and it moves so fast that it can be very easy to forget that it's like southern coolish. You're just racing. And you think someone's mad at you. Or you're not getting anything on that week. Or you're like are people looking at me 'cause they know I didn't get anything on. It's very just hard and stressful. And so you have to force yourself to like take a deep breath and be like, it is insanely cool. That'd be good to be here. This is very cool. And we did that a lot during the election because we knew like when Hillary came for a lot of specifically that last year, we we would often like go out onto the floor to watch something in like link arms. We were very much like this is cool with the three of us. Get to do this. It's pretty awesome. Yeah. Even going now, like the whole thing is a little it's a little demystified. Now having been so clear, it's like still we went last night with our friend. Ashley who it's been her dream to go to SNL suit. He was walking through the back of me. And here's like where the costumes get everything. It's cool. Yeah. It's fucking thing. Like the thing that put it all into perspective last night was when suit was explained are financially. She was like, well, the budget is crazy and length. The cool thing is like the show would never this kind of show would never get made now with the budget. Absolutely. Like, this is the last show it's kind and I was like, whoa. What do you got just three floors of like Rockefeller Center to another show? Kind. Yeah. Yeah. So even just compl- complaining, I was just I was just kind of like venting to mount lots. It was like this is kind of like a nothing week for me. Like, I truly was on nothing. And so I've just been sort of troubling my thumbs. But but then it's like, okay. Like, yeah. This week this other writer Elon we're both like like LA comes to me. And he's like I was relieved to that. You're on nothing because I was like he was like Bowen's in great standing. I was like I thought I was that you were on. Okay. It's not just. It's it's insane. Can make yourself go. Crazy. He know this. But you would have like week or weeks in a row, you get nothing on where you're like everyone knows. Everyone's eyes are on me. I'm the fraud. And like literally, no one is thinking about you when they're only thinking about their own stuff. Yeah. And then the next week you'll get something on and you'll be like, I am king of comedy. Yeah. Cycle different experience. I put up sketches. 'cause when you're starting you kinda also rip yourself a little bit more just because you're trying to use. Sometimes can't find anyone and. Yeah, I was just put up stuff that would absolutely bomb, and I couldn't I was like that as the that's the worst thing that's ever happened. I'm blacklisted. I'm dead. Table moment. About this. And I couldn't even tell you. I couldn't even remotely guess what any of this is where people always ask to do. You guys have sketches that you wish would have gone that you're like that should have gone and not really I mean, occasionally there's like one or two before ourselves. But in the moment, everything feels so important. So like, they're not doing this one. Right. Right. Right. No. They're not doing that one. And you will not remember this day. Absolutely. Yeah. This bitch had a grant pitch. I'll stop I won't talk about it. But this one should go. I should've gone election have gone. It shouldn't have gone all the great, whatever. The longer. You're there the longer the more. You learn it really you can have the absolute best idea in vacuum are. And then you're like, oh, but the host doesn't want to or the host there. So there are one thousand reasons that can destroy an idea when the job is learning how to navigate like why you shouldn't let your best ideas. Right. Your second. Wow. Many video. So you've got to do alive. Scott when I'm dealing with. Now is that I've been just writing songs they've been the host wants to Jim music video like maybe like you can write a song. I'm like, okay. I will do to do it. I have fucking Christmas candle open. Great and just to get a sense of structure again. But then they put it at the end of the first half of table where the big sort of finale act closer moment, quote, unquote. And then like my pitch that I did this week like wis fine was fine. And and it was okay didn't bomb, but it was just okay. And then to have people come up to being be like that was great. I was like I would just be like, I don't believe. I just I don't know. I'm going a little crazy. But it's okay. I'm like managing him. Yeah. His best as I can. That's all. Because it is crazy making job by how it is. But let's talk about. Okay. How how's the transition been to like scripted TV narrative serialized because I think you guys it's really remarkable was what like in watching the other two. I was like this is such a different thing if feels it has its own identity. Yes. That's like really cool. Like, I that's one of the things I loved about it is you know, as it goes on. There are some dark. It gets. Yeah. I really, but then what? And this episode hasn't aired yet. But there's an episode on an airplane. You're so. I just. God we we can attest that there is an airplane airplane. So like just taking the starkness, and then making this making it into this like crazy comedic twice I love. It's it goes it starts funny that it goes down to dark, then it circles back into funny. Yeah. It's just a great. So, but yet is it how how has it been kind of running your own room? And like, what's what is the difference is they're like and just going through putting her own show together. Like, yeah. Tough about that. How is that? Well, the we keep saying that we loved it. It was both a blessing and occurs because Chris, and I are like very over thinki-. We will really like nit pick it something until we die. So at SNL, you just don't have that option. It's like you can depict until Zadeh, and then it's literally on TV, and you can't do anything else in. So we thrived under that. Because it kept us in check kept us from kind of like going insane. And so we've had more time we just have the time now. So we spent a lot more time thinking about the show as a whole and making sure those moments fell earned and making sure. The characters felt authentic, and what they were going through was like right in every sense of the the word that we could figure, and so that was a luxury, but then it would towards the end we were like we need to get this on film because we are spinning out because. Yeah. We just need to make this already. But yeah, that was talk with no joke. But that was earnest. Waiting for the Joel and a dark answer. Thing where for the other two were is like it has to be like the actress half to specifically word at this way. The way that you guys have written it or. Well. Not always sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes a lot of our show is super serialized. And so we were like if you don't say this literally something in episode and doesn't make sense or something. I know it's just so annoying to the actors, but I like whatever we get the question like zero lot of improv that I want the answer to be. Yes to be like, a fun gal really really part of the pastor art, and we just like locked off. And we just. Just like that. I feel like to say no, there wasn't a lot of improv makes it seem like, wow. There would be a little bit or or some had the luxury. I mean, we shut these episodes in four days. So we just were running all there's no time a lot of times it'd be like let's roll on. And just you know, just for see them everyone's marks, and then we would do on. And they'd be like great time to move on the day. So you have to move so fast that it was a luxury if we could improvise. But yet like Sarah said, it's very serialized. So a lot of the jokes needed to it's different for comedy central. You know, what I mean, they don't have a lot of shows like that. That are like I've done this is like their most heavily serialized show. And I yeah. Yeah. That. That's nice. It's maybe like, yeah. Just a little denser or something in a way where you're like. Yeah. You'd see other shows having fun like onset. You can see them, you know, the actors playing and they let a beat they let a big on. But there's no way. Yeah. Yeah. We think we're glad that it's on week to week. So that it's on for ten weeks. Yes, that's nice to us. But we also do think it's kind of maybe good Benji like it's better if you can watch a couple of times, it's striking. That was interesting. We got we were we got to see the show a little early. And I said to Sam Shaw sent comedy central. I was like just for what it's worth the show is soup or Jabbour, which I think is such a great thing going note. Like people watch TV when things come on. But now, as you know, been all the time, and I think it's really good in that respect. I can see it performing really well like, and then the thing is like years from now like it's out there forever. Yeah. We'll have. Yeah. Yeah. Just binged the whole thing in you'll get like, it's this thing with. The office. Now where it's cool. Totally totally weird. It is one that infringe on the best shows on Netflix is eleven year olds finding friends which is kinda scary scary. Only about sexuality. Not every joke. Let's say it. Let them be homophobic. It looked so enraged together. Magin putting together and Mike. That's it nowadays. Brown hair blond and another Browns variety. Oh, speaking of cast. Oh, you really can just transition. I do this. Watching isn't it? To watch me. One hundred. It's amazing to watch me because we we don't even need to be on the podcast want to be in the room. Them to come on the show, and they said to be in the room and said, no, we have talk to you this fine. So we have had well we both had and I had drew in here. The other day special guest co host Josh love watching those two watching. Josh Andrew talk to each other about being like like gay in the south. Idea where drew like came from? Like the swamp. Career. So they're so good together. And they really feel like the relationship. So great. I just like they are we got so lucky awesome. They're so grainy. Also, like there's tough stuff in the show. I mean, it gets drew came one of my shows like a few months ago, you were filming I think you gotta just shot the airplane seen. How's it? How's it going? And he was like it's a lot of acting. Yeah. We all joke about two it's dramatic little bit for everybody. But particularly poor little retarder because drew will be like, Helena, how much are you crying in your day when they're not suiting like are, you crying as much as I'm crying. But there's also laughs. Menthol stick like what? Oh, okay. Want to spoil it. Okay. And. There's an iconic and of what? So we have to cry. We're gonna try to just shoot this once if you can really cry and he was like great. I'm going to do it. And he cried immediately one time then we had to do it again. And he cried immediately again, and we were like, wow, you're such a good actor, and then you credit to third time, and he cried immediately again, and that everyone in the crew was like, I think he cries too easily is he okay, it's too. Logically. Like, he's using this. It was really impressive. It was very impressive. That moment. Ball. It really took my no menthol took this moment that we're talking about. You'll you'll know when you get to it takes her. I was like I can't believe this show. Tony moments. Also when I watched it first and then wash it a little bit later. But he and this episode has happened before this can say at the moment with caper lamb. I am gagging on back. I couldn't tech. That's so funny. I taped it on my computer recorded on my computer sent the video to Matt. I was like I cannot that was Jordan. I one eight. So we also had asked permission permission not to bleep fag. We think you thought it was going to be like powerful in a very blunt Harwell. A woman say that word at him like in an office. Casualty just that. She how dare she thinks. She can casually say that we're look at you bleep it kind of work there were some emails, and we got an Email back like guys. Congratulations can say. Yeah. There was a period where we were going to be on a call about it. And so it was being seriously reference in emails as the fact that call. To do this. If you call and just like. Tiger back. Once they mentioned that it might need to be a call. They thought that would be like maybe a good way for us to be like. Okay. Well, we're not gonna get on a call about this never mind is fine. But we were on the call. Oh, come on. That moment is that's take that took my can't believe this. It's an important moment for the culture. I mean, that's a real thing. Yes. It's absolutely a real thing and capable into. So funny. I think could win an Oscar. I was gonna say. Change the rules. Oscar's famously don't matter anyway green book way. Here. This is gonna play after green book has one right? Or bohemian rhapsody has taken home. The go ahead. The world we live in is incredibly sick. And that's actually a real culture. Remember twenty to the world. We live in is incredibly sick. Yeah. The one hour Mark. You guys say the world is sick was Hicks about an hour to realize that this Justice if e- exercise getting worse. The theme. No. I said a big whereas the other pernicious. Okay. You know, what I learned that what grammar? Where what's from pernicious one time on Beverly Hills? And I was like. Means to act in an evil manner. Yes. Yeah. You knew that though. Being smart I but you. But you episode with utha so true. Yeah. That was really I think this is the year where you really just broaden your scope with words. I'm going to I'm going to the cultural mecca that is Los Angeles Thursday. Six weeks, and I'm gonna get real smart. Yeah. We can we talk about the writer's room the writers sin Tassell. Okay. So it was. Stor Joachim booster coal. Kelly fun. Do you know her? I don't I don't think I know. She's UCLA. She's so funny. I don't think we've met, but I do know. And then she and yellow were there for a little bit. But then they had to go to broad city. So. Yes. So that's a fun fun, Ezra. I caught some Instagram stories of y'all playing the t-shirt game and like funnel job. Yes. Are we? Are we? The teacher. Yes. That was Joel. Right. That was Joel. He's like we have to do this. And we were all like, okay, no not into it. And we're like we're like do this because it's building teams and got so into it. I laugh so hard. It was really the one of the most Mondays. So thank you on this thing. You can do the most fun thing. You can do all they I got a t shirt. You can buy them this smart as part of the games that you can then be like click to purchase. So smart. What was the one that? We did with the nails. And it just said one word it was it was a hand with red fingernails at said said, it's a tour DHS. It said I'm virgin virgin, a finger red figure said I'm virgin, we were all all. I do. I'm virgin. Okay. This is this what you're trying to ask earlier in terms of running a writer's room unbound by some other. I mean, you're sort of answering the network at lake different vibe overall lake where to spending so much time together like trying to break. Yeah. The episodes like different different different angles. Right. Yeah. Because well SNL it's kind of you don't really have the experience breaking stuff together as a group. So that was great that was so fun and so much of it was just being like, what would you? Here's an idea for a plot. Like, how would you truly react us in your real life and getting stories from writers that we are biggest real thing in the writer's room wasn't just like what are funny things that could happen. But it was like, yeah. If you go to this like premier or your brother writes, a song about specifically physically dramatically pathetically? What would you feel in do? Right. That we've said this before. But like all the episodes could technically the log lines could be dramas, then we added comedy to them. But that's great. It was the call. All right coughing and Sarah's head of WADA. While took what from it and it made a dolphin Noyce ya'll. You're not supposed to tip it back one hundred you sip. It you saw into shop. I would have done that too. And I was barreling straight through keep talking and you like. Locked in the room and on the professional. Yes. And you just missed this. Extremely poignant thing that Christmas say I'm so sorry. Sorry. The episodes were by log I came here. It was cold. I'm talking about my show this little pantomine that's going ally to be hydrated for the apocalypse. So I'm sorry. I could not. Not able to live. So that we can. I was watching CNN and forget who was and she was coughing so hard yesterday on the news, but she was coughing for like ten minutes and she kept saying like and president. But no one she was interviewing guests, and no one was like I'm going to talk now for two minutes. So they can cut off of you. And allow you to do what you can't just coughed for ten minutes. It was so funny. You can't even watch the news anymore because you're thinking about production. Right. You're producing the fucking news has what are you talking about? Like, I'm saying you can't even watch the news about being like they showed that. Yes. Yes. You take cut away. They should cut away. Bring watch. Absorb a only watch CNN? I watch MSNBC. I don't like CNN watch you. I see do. I tolerate McCain. She is she's no she's done. Cancel. It's been hard to watch. Just cancelled the whole like I'm the daughter of John McCain thing, I could not abide she's on that. No. But like, but someone someone did Someond did to me of like like a screen grab of Meghan McCain saying, I'm the daughter of John McCain. I'm not I'm not a racist. Oh, yeah. She slammed the table the other day. John McCain's daughter, I don't just allow racism, okay? Shocking. He's trying to me more. And then they was Erin Brockovich and the altered subtitle. That's all you got lady. Being John McCain his daughter and fucking ugly shoes. The news. Why do we go into this? I wanted to talk about the show. So I wanted to talk about. The other to the raiders. And why does want to talk about other cast members? Great got Ken Marino, genius, babe. Since I was a little child. Can I say his best performance in the rock and roller coaster pre show at DisneyWorld Hollywood studio -solutely he's in there with Ileana Douglas and the cast of our Smith the. They're playing buttons. And like being like. Yeah. He was in that. Every time. I go on that route which is a lot. I'm like, I see him. And I'm like that's fucking Ken Marino. Yeah. He's the best. But also, we have talked my mismile miss, Molly. Molly, shannon. I mean, just like rediscover which I feel like you've been a big part of this kind of like rediscovery of hers. This like she's got some incredible dramatic moments in your show and also her performance and other people I mean out of control he's not about working with her like what's that? So good. Yeah. She's also the I don't know the best way. I can put it as you just don't really see her acting, or at least, I don't, you know, when she goes into a dramatic moment. You never feel her doing her like Oscar winning moment. You don't feel her. Sometimes even the best actors that we all love we stand by. We would die for them. You can feel like, okay? You know, the cameras on new you're doing your your moment right now. She just feels like a regular person just talking to the people that she's on Jan with. She's really dropped. She so funny the airplane episode that we can't go into too much is the first thing we shot and withdrew sent this right away. And just. She's a real she's insane. No, she's like she's fully worthy in that scene. And like, wow, we're starting any. You guys are here. This is the first became pain. Join Amraam who also started campaign here did famously earned a nomination two big ones. We're still upset. She lost. She she was telling me what she has it mine for season two. And it's incredible. Anyway, I can't wait for that. That's the scoop. No, I can't believe Molly. And like just like her and other people to it's just such a beautiful performance. She's so that had to be a lot to like cast the person as we're gonna play your mother the and did you meet with a lot of people or did you kind of like just? Yeah. Couple. But it was also a the tiniest of indie movies, and I hadn't really done anything before. So it was just I didn't presume that anybody would wanna do this. Or no one would know who I am. So we sent her the script. I think I had described it as a Molly Shannon type. I think someone like, Molly, Shannon, would be great in this role as an example of think about her, but don't actually ask her because she won't do it. And then we she finally got the script and she called me right away. And said I do like it was very quick. I was very surprising, and then hung out with her for a couple months before we shot like she would invite me over your house, meter family, and we'd have lunch whenever shoot a dinner party or how shoot invite me. Yeah. It was very sweet I would like call my sisters. And because I was because she was playing apart. But I also wanted. The person playing my mother to be nice to be like a great actor when you call cut there like an asshole. So that was nice. Yeah. So she was she seems tolerable. She's she is tolerable. She's just a sweet just like the funniest nicest person. And also, I mean, I Kana SNL cast member for all time of. Yeah. Always like big SNL fans. Like, I go in waves. Yeah. And can tune in. And I was like big on the on the Tina, Amy my Kristen years. I was I was pretty full full bore. Yeah. I was psychotic about it. He's a very young age. When I was my my first NYU, I would go every week to the stem by line. And I remember I the the first one I ever went to James Franco and kings of Leon. And then I went the next week to Anne Hathaway in the killers. And it was the first time that Kristen wig to the Lawrence Welk show. Oh, okay. Let's just like unbelievable. Like, okay, right city. I wouldn't tickets in college weirdly through the raffle, and or my friend did. And I made her take me and we saw the Ashley Simpson fucking. Oh, you're in the audience for that. It was very cool. How crazy? Let's gorgeous. I also won the lottery one time. And it was Jennifer Lopez host and musical guest. This. The lottery. Way post mango, we got to see her sing live valid I would send out during the raffle season of August. I would send emails to everyone all my friends and family being legemaate leased do the raffle. And if you get it take me and my win it. I will take one of the it. Didn't it wasn't a fair thing. But I did. Wow. I never I never get tired of going even though it's always like, it's pretty cool. We just we have to shout out MS Wanda, oh on Mr. Mr. case. We're talking about case Melena his first one. Yeah. Yes. He's Greer is perfect. Yes, Oga we try. We were so impressed by him and wanted him to like us. He's just so cool. And we were like we we're the head writers on us. All. We tried to league named Dr SNL, and he was like, oh, did you guys write mister peepers? That was like the one thing he knew and. And then we asked him how old he thought we were. But that was one of the reasons among the many why we cast him is because his energy instantly made us want to we want to impress him. We wanted him to think we were cool. That's how you not like. Yeah. Yeah. All he also looks. I mean, he's he looks like the Olympics. Becky shed looks like one of those star. Yes. Not even Bieber. It's an a of nation of all those people. Yeah. Yeah. Like, the squeaky clean. Yes. Face. Exactly the I mean, this is science on route at the blankets slate. That's what we liked about him. He liked the idea that people saw him in there like we can make that we can make that into whatever we needed to. And then on the flip side Wanda who this was not her for Sunday. She noted that, of course. But she was so good. I mean met her on the first day of shooting. The mine episode episode all my guy, and we were so nervous. And we felt very much like like when they said Wanda would do it. We were like this is so dumb. I can't believe you tricked her in one to this. Why is she? Why did you say, yes, absolutely, screaming Email? Email. She was so funny so nine so game. It was great. And that first day we were like we're gonna have to make you sweaty all day. Nice to meet you you have to be sweaty all day. I guess she's so funny. She's incredible airplane gets hot it gets. Sorry. Doesn't really ruin it. Just fantastic. I mean at this point it's out you can start you can binge the episodes that are out highly Benjamin, you guys it is. So I mean, I really excited about it since I found out about it. And like, I told you guys when I saw I saw you last I worked at the ride. Yes. So. Rating cables to I was. It's my story. Nobody I mean, especially like crazy to watch and work at the ride, and then do that thing. And I told you this. But like, you almost got exactly it's it's more humiliating than what? We would be walking on the street. I pull up like who's the sky? Churn. And I would be like, oh, hey, a bus, and they'd be like, well, what is your talent? I guess I sing. And then the song I saying was no you're in some way. And I would like a real. If you like. The like like dancing to it. And I would also host. So I would have to play that part as well. But it's so as you can tell and then thicker, and then and then when that exchange is done, you are just a regular guy. So as the bus off your back and character backpack walking around until it leaves. I think after that they were like you can sing I was like well I'm actually on my way to audition. Like, how New York full of people with dreams. And so then you. Carney hold. It was outside. Columbus circle. And the real thing. Columbus circle is the Valerie Valerie. Yep. Oh, my God that job that was it was fun. And I a Darcy too because she let jersey did it claims that Heidar you can verify this. But Darcy claims have set a lot of the jokes. She has claimed that too many many different environments. I've come up that several a party. Some of the script to her that was me. That was me. Funny. She sent lights up with pride about that appears on every year unless for best comedic. Nobody else. Paid. She she. Residuals? Yeah. She's the she's absolutely killing it. Know what you're doing what she wants don't do this. I think it's time. I think it might be time to move on time to do. I don't think so Honey Darcy maybe just realized you take the most amazing vacations. Feel foam. Oh, wait. We've gone on a group we call the vest for the last three years for new years and this year, we went to Costa Rica Rica, and my my husband works at Sutton Myers. And he all bunch of the writers from Seth Meyers worked on the Golden Globes. And one of them told him that they were walking down a hallway and just hurt someone in a room. Go got enough of this fucking Costa Rica trip? No, yes. Yes. The. Because I was working in. Talking about it. Honestly. It was a different coast. It was a different group of people. It was not a production on they were correct. Okay. We'll be all posted like only three. But then times twelve is too much. No, no. I loved seeing it because it it really put me in that place in feel better feel night. Joe this make Asian. It's absolutely insane. And she was like, I know I'm sorry. It was that data ever posted the fireworks in the parking lot. And I was like there. Best make your prior where I'm sorry. But did you guys go on vacation to the place where Kim K lost and airing? Did we know? Okay. No, no. I didn't say where they stayed because we couldn't afford it. This is such. I live for those Asians. And I said one day already have the money, but you have to pay for me. I was like we have to go on vacation. That's bad luck. Okay. Well, I maybe this is already know the story, of course. But we went to Bora Bora, we all have those little huts on the water walk into the water there and truly the first the moment of day one of the trip. We all jumped off into the water, and I jumped off and landed hard on a piece of coral and broke my foot open on my heel. So deeply inches deep in a way where they're like you go to the hospital or whatever and the doctor was like unavailable. So they just we'll just all you have to do is just keep it dry. Keep it out of water. So for the entire trip to bore Bora. I couldn't put my feet in the water, which was insane. I we we think the saltwater will be good for it for one hundred into water, and it was like out of the. When we went to bed. I was like let me just do a quick Google. Search just to verify what Sarah confidently told me, and it was like in the water, Mike, you do it does make sense wrapped the whole trip. I didn't let it slow down. I was I was an inspiration. So then when we got back you made a video the first time I'd ever heard of cameo. Oh, I had Sonja Morgan. Oh, make a Cami overcast that was like. The deeds of like, he cut his foot on this this trip it sucked. But we just wanted to be like, thanks for pulling it out. And she's like, Chris I heard about your foot. But you you kept it dry. So funny like and you were team player sounds a little bit like someone else. Sonja? You kept a dry, Chris you. Title of. If called isn't making our faggot call if they say, we can't have fag. A call. Dr. Call. That's on your Instagram dive. Oh, great one. Oh, is it? Okay. I'm gonna see. So one of the listeners got mad at me for saying fag at one time, and I'm like, then turn this off. We're just reclaiming the word that's all reclaiming. It's been it's not even we're not even doing anything political with. We're just saying we're saying it to quote some time. Anyway, I think it's fun. It's. This is our our. Should we say we are currently because this was coming out in weeks? We're on tour. We are probably going to be very soon in Boston. Philly in DC and also in Houston Dallas and Austin for moon tower with potentially some ons and also Brooklyn on four twenty in Brooklyn for twenty and then we have just been in Portland Seattle in Cougars consists, and we had so much so much fun. Okay. So you have something I have something. Okay. Then why don't you go? Okay. All right. So this is we'll be bone Yang's. I don't think so Honey, and it's time sorts now. I don't think so Honey stairs. Yeah. Hate stairs. Maybe Donald Trump. And I have something in common. There's a stair in every building their engines of death. The technology is not there yet for people to not fall downstairs. Isn't that insane abandoned her won't do you know what I'm saying? If you hold onto her balanced you'll still each in almost fell on the stairs yesterday almost probably like might have been paralyzed from the waist down. I would've made that Razi that it's so easy and our lives. Our bodies are so fragile thirty six Astaire a set of stairs can kill you or render you motionless, and I mean just think about this. We need ramps. We need ramps everywhere are the way to go that way, it's less strain on your body straight on your feet. The whatever the torsion on your feet contortion contortions and so- stairs. I don't think. So Honey, Honey dares. You gotta go elevator. Don, Trump is right about something. One minute. All right. Also, not a fan of stairs love and later except tell you which ones I hate which one Honey the ones at that movie theater in midtown. You know, the one AMC. Horrifying because I have a horrific fear of heights post steep. There's no because you look over the side. And it's it's just sudden. I have a fear of heights posts skydiving. Oh, interesting. Four after skydiving can't deal with the stuff yet. No, it's bad. You hate the experience of it just to give you a brief synopsis. I I don't even like flying got eighteen years old my friends like we're going to skydive, and I'm like, yes, I'm straight, man. And so we got on the plane hated being in the plane. Don't like flying the way that they make you do skydiving you sit over the ledge rock one. Oh, three to a front flip out the free false fine. By the way, there's someone on my back tandem. He had spiky hair like that. I don't remember his name. I keep saying it was probably Trask. So. Freefalling a minute and a half you free fall. And then they don't tell you this. But the scary fucking part is when they pull the thing. And then you float down for ten minutes. Yeah. So that's horrible. And I hadn't eaten that day. And I proceeded to dry heave up into my shirt as we're ten minutes with guy on my back. She didn't work. And then what he told you, my friend. My my other friends that I went with love the stuff love going, Scott. I love this excess and he went again, and my one friend Kevin went again, and he came back and really how was it. He goes. Yeah. The guy told me that the first shoot didn't go to use the backup shoot on. Can you imagine? I can't even listen to it. To it. I liked I love the free fall. But then I similarly felt that that slow spiral two earth. I could've I was needed it. Oh, it was. It was really like Spinney. I don't like the cops shit. So so when we go to just do those have you ever did hang gliding have you ever done that you literally you're you're holding onto a little kite and a propeller plane pulls you up and you're connected to the plane by a string, and it takes a mile into the sky, and there's a man on your back, and they clip the cord, and then you just float down who it was so scary. They're all the way up the going up was the worst because there's such bad turbulence. I was I was literally under like an we film it. So you can buy the video and the video films. I'm literally screaming I'm so scared. I an ad out of my mind raid and the guy I was like when we're both done because then my boyfriend went second. I was like you have to tell us. Honestly, if it's me fine. Just tell us who is the most scared because my boyfriend is going to be scared to. And when we both went the guy was like, oh, it was you for sure. Yeah. You were you were an absolute parent. Are you wearing a parachute in case or no, no, you're strapped until the your distrupt into the kite itself and his floats down because in my brain. But I also have an issue. I think I could if I was about to die get out of it. I have a mental issue. And if if you were on a hang glider and had a parachute, I would feel safer than being in the plane because I'm like ship and tear shooting. You're right, right. So yeah, I drive a car off a bridge by accident like my window down in time and like just swim out. I whenever I see whenever car plunging water. Time power high out of there like that that movie with Ted Kennedy. Oh lit up a quick Chappaquiddick. This is no big deal. Really was. A huge deal. I think it's Matt Rogers. I don't think. So Honey, you have you. You had something how? Well, okay. I thought our guest watched Atlanta. But I'm still gonna for the list. This is Matt Rogers is I don't think it's time starts now. I don't think so Honey candy Burruss on real housewives Atlanta. And here's why there's a whole fucking first half of the season. Was your daughter telling, you know, don't used your embryos that you've stored up you already have two children that you never see UN Todd keep saying we're going to have babies and your response to your daughter. I see you hear you. I'm going on celebrity big, brother. Money. Why you there? Also, I don't think so Honey candy in relation to Porsche, miss Porsche has come a long way and growing up. Let me tell you something. Honey, I don't like husbands of Atlanta right now that the fact of the matter is we didn't see candy and Todd Todd birthday party films. And now all of a sudden all this drama about Porsche getting kicked out of Todd's birthday party. And candy. We're supposed to take candies show with Porsche was being inappropriate. But I don't think. So Honey, why wasn't there cameras on that event? I don't think so many of these housewives conflicts that come out of something that we don't see. Oh, I think it's really interesting. That candy. I think went to Andy Cohen said don't film that we're not going to be comfortable with it. And all of a sudden we're supposed to believe her. I don't candy. I respect you for writing. No scrub and that's what I was gonna say cannot take away the. Bills. No scrap. It's rule coach number eighty nine bugaboo, the candy, you she's one of those people that you said that I love her for that. You cannot separate the artists from the art like you can do that with what you can do that with Louis you can do all these candy. No, she is. She is her art. That's right Deti, imagine if we lived in a world with no scripts. Wasn't too. Also, the thing you said about you don't like when drama is based on something we didn't. Yeah. To me. That is what Beverly Hills constantly tell they're fighting about like who's telling Vander pump has produce Oriel issues with some of the girls. And like, yeah, I'm so sorry cut that some of the women. People don't wanna film with each other. They don't talk about it. And they're all mad at each other. Because of something I don't I don't have access vendor public is an on this season really at all. She got. So in her feelings about whatever's going on with Cal, which this I really hated Lassie and Beverly Hills, and I think Doreen meets the fucking go or get her shit together because I do like, her fashion. She's great she's down. She's right now talking Jessica Simpson hair extension. The tea and honestly like when she made an issue of Bandra pump vehicle like, and we all forgot what the conflict even was. That's my thing with these shows. It's like it's not a good season. If it's two women fighting, and we don't remember why. That's what Beverly Hills is all the time kids one tiny fight for twenty episodes or more yet still having fights about stuff that they've fought about. At least with like, New York, New York. They got a fresh fresh it on the floor. Every every episode there like your trash, I hate you. I would kill your kids if I could. And then ten minutes later, they're like, I love you on this. And they start over the next episode. They leave behind the best. Really good. And also all those women are fun there. My heels vendor. Pump is not knowing one's fun on there. I don't I feel like you give enough you give Kyle. She could be fun. I disagree. I won't give. Giga and John Kyle. She's boring boring. I'm with Meghan McCain on they don't like to read. But then she's good television. But I don't like her she gas lights everybody. She's crazy. But yeah, I forgot to Rita. She's. Like. That's great. That's really good. Real. Oh my God. Yulon Rena Maeda. I. Because if you I would read you for being too sick, Anya Lonza, and I have on Jasmine's. I would say I would accuse you of having Munchausen because I'm staying, and I'm like, I don't wanna go out. And I would be so mad. I love Lisa Renee. She's having a damn blast. I she's live for Reynaud. She's just happy to be there. She's so like, she's harmless other women will come for each other in a way that so route, and it hurts everybody and Lisa Reynoso does like, I don't know. She's just trying just the best reactions to things too. Like when she's obviously in the wrong. What what do you mean? And then she'll get this crazy look like she's pretending to fit try to think of what she could on wrong. But she knows I love her. I love her and Harry Hamlin. I love their Harry Hamlin. Obviously have crazy south -solutely. I never feel safer than when I know. I have episode of housewives watch coming up. Yeah. Blanket Atlanta right now is not it. An also if they bring fair back. I'm gonna be furious because Pedro fully accused candy birth and her husband Todd of trying to rape Porsche, let that was that was a narrative was really draw who was a lawyer made up this thing that candy and Todd we're going to drug Porsche and told Porsche that and you should what you need to go back and watch the seas Atlanta, supposedly the best Atlanta is unbelievable because they go. But it is not but in the ginning, and then it gets so crazy even the women. No, it's to the fund silly drum of season two Beverly Hills on that guy killed himself. The. Daniel fully gone that we it's so good, though, Atlanta the bits that I've watched our great limit is Craig White women Kim him. Yeah. Out of control show. The officially can't play with with the women anymore girls cut that. They are grown. Listen, it's time. It's time. We asked her culture. I so I think Christmas kick off, okay. Okay. A symmetry symmetry. If I have a minute, but we're about to find out together. Stretch it out. Okay. This is Chris Kelly's. I don't think. So Honey, it's time starts at now. Okay. I don't think. So Honey episodes of dramas that are sixty three minutes. To fucking lung. And at the set of drama should be forty four to forty seven minutes special episode. I will give you fifty six minutes. Don't tell me it's to set the mood and tone to set the world put me in the edit Honey 'cause I down sixty three's unacceptable. Also, I will say that sixty three minute episodes are a hundred minutes long takes seven minutes to decide if I wanna watch episode, thirty seconds. Also, I don't think so Honey game of thrones episode Vetter eighty five that's a fucking. Feature film watch Roma. I would watch it. But I don't want to watch. I'm sure when I watched Roma I will love it. And I will talk about it ad nauseam for weeks. But right now, I can't do which is why I'm trying to watch a forty seven minute. I will say the only episode of TV that could be sixty minutes is the housewives day. With that. But if you're not the housewives trim to forty seven, I don't think so. Comedy bit. I feel strong. Not a comedy thing. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to cut that. Honey, dramatic evening tour. Comedy truth? It's real culture number ninety two. Not to laugh. No. Can I say something what? Yes. I love me so much my one thing with it too long to its drama hybrid, whatever it's too. But you know, it's a lot of masters, so they can't cut it. They don't cut it down. They don't go into singles either. Have you guys watched homecoming on Amazon? Yes. No. I started the first two is integrate. I loved it took me a minute to get into the style of it or something like the choice of the, you know, collects frame and everything. But I thought it was great. Yeah. Honestly when the aspect ratio change later. She was so worth it. This is so great and also was really have to watch. I'm gonna watch tag. Julia. Shuli is coming for it. Say no, not even away. That's like Mork. It's crazy. She just looks natural flooding and also what I love about. Homecoming is I love how big all the performances were like like the detective guy -tective and Julius just doing like the small work. I loved it. Feels like a podcast when you watch me. Listen to the podcast. It's so crazy 'cause the podcast has also legitimately. Great actress that are not in the show, right keener, Amy sedaris, David Schwimmer, but it's like real actors, and then they just crazy elector. And can we say, it's actually a real culture number ninety eight David Schwimmer, great, actor, great, actor, David Schwimmer, gray. All right. It's not a real a governor. Find way if you want listen to a narrative podcast on this network. Listen to the Angela vine starring fucking Alfred Molina, MS constant Zimmerman, Mr. Allen tunic sleigh slide concepts. On unreal. The first two she is so good. It's so good. And also God what's her name the lead actress sharing eerie, apple beer ago? Right. That was one of the best performances on television. That's a fun show, so fun. And you know, they brought it back on Hulu for like Alassio that they just kind of released all at once. He actually was a return to form. Mmediately before watch him coming. But homecoming both valid twenty five minutes. That's up loving. Every episode is was always surprised when it was done. And I was like, oh, great watch another great. So I was concerned that it would be scary for me too. But it wasn't. Killing so easily binge about like twenty five minute episodes. You just really twenty five. So good, right? I think so we love that. That's true. Short to me. Want to get in the middle of sorry to be separated for six weeks, and he's fucking lying. I'm sorry. Okay. This this is it. This is Sarah, Sarah, spinoff of us. Sarah's. I don't think somebody her time starts now. Okay. I don't think so honeybees with pierced ears. First of all, this is a personal personal taste. I just think it looks like an adult decis- decision on a baby. And I hate that. It's weird. I don't like. So I don't think so Honey about that. But then also like within society, you have to it's illegal to get a tattoo until you're eighteen, but you can bring a potato can't talk to a Clair's and eighteen we'll poke permanent ears life. How is that? How is that legal dot should be legal? Can't be that can't be a decision that we all stand by. And then also I don't think so Honey being like it's further kids. She'll be so happy later that decision. She's a baby. This is for you. Because she's not picking out her excessively is right now, Honey. You want like romper to match your little earrings that you put in her. You're the adult. She's the baby. And I make this choice. You did. And that is rude. And I do not think so Honey and can I end at one second early. Okay. Great. Wow. No, not me. Neither neither. No, no, never cartilage, Bruce, bath skin grows back. But even if it grows back together, there's little did it and these babies did not this. My body be undivided ate it. Anyone stick a thing? Single not a single note. Don't poke me my whole need to go somewhere. Culture. Why not right? Ninety two. Somewhere. Wait. I that's really important that you said that. And I can't believe you can get your spirits Clair's. Yes. This. Yeah. And a teen will do it the I mean in New Jersey, that's where all my friends and high school went just to Clair's, and then like the people working at the class where other people in our high school. So it was just. Teens booking your attorney grow. Yes, lawley. Oh, yeah. If you couldn't tell why I'm like this. Trust truly from Colorado. And then Montreal Montreal before that one of the crazy things about him. He was he's truly multicultural born austral- straight God then Canadian greys raised in Montreal. Then went to Denver English his third line cope. Yeah. What is? Say something about me. Lost his virginity on a boat. That's wrong. Hook up with the guy that I lost my with nineteen against my will. Atlanta. Lanta ship. Really sweet otherwise sounds like it was sweet. We heard it. And then he had to be on Facebook dot com. Oh, no, wait. Are you wanna Facebook dot com? I'm really sorry. What happened? This is the sixth thing. Oh, I'm not on Facebook dot com, and I had checked it long ago. But I fell for this thing which was the ten year aging, and I was like let me go on Facebook picture went on was being attacked. Bye. Bye. This is what you should download all your. Yeah. And then delete it for good for. That's what I did. Just weak. So. Yeah. So easy at this point. It's kind of like decided to mine, but I should just get rid of it. And then when you download your file like you download all your messages, all your wall posts, all your photos, everything everything so bad that computer that good. In one zip file, no one should have a Facebook. I have a hard on right at the end an hour and fifty Chris comes alive. Another thing. But you like Twitter, and no I don't like Twitter. Yeah. But that's tough because isn't it Facebook? So I know so don't don't poke holes in my delete your Facebook everyone. Don't question me because. Whatever right now everyone's being very righteous about Facebook because they're still it's all the teat Instagram is my favorite. I know. I'm addicted. I love all right. Let's love fence to culture that. That's my thing. I didn't even know you how to fix them and to you. So funny. We almost put that in the show. Really? It's so from case he taught us, right? Yes. Memes. Shit messages that people send me that are like so uncouth and terrible told me you had a fence that I didn't know about. I couldn't believe it. I thought it was someone copying everyone should get offense stuff. But we isn't it now that you can do close friends, isn't that the idea also I want sometimes they just wanna post Thurs trap. And I don't want to do. So you do it to the ten rinsed real and. It's just for like thirst traps and all that stuff. Right. That's what I that's why. I haven't only fans. Oh. Credit is. This was such a fun episode. Oh, man. We're having fun. And also thank you for truly being seriously. Like we've been fans for such a long time. We love everything that you guys do too nice. We love this podcast. Oh, it was fun live as it is to listen to. And they were just gonna watch us. Participate to I'm please watch the on right now on comedy central like, we said easily binge and honestly like seek out all the work. Go back, and binge the YouTube, although what wasn't on YouTube today. Asian American dollars. You too or the dark web. The web or hit up the dark web, Chris, Sarah. Thank you so much. We. We're gonna end on a song as we always do. Okay. You know at the song is go you go. Can you to really appreciate that? Dot com. This has been forever dog production executive produced by Brett Bom, Joe Silio and Alex Ramsey for more original podcasts. Please visit forever dog podcasts dot com. Subscribe our shows on apple podcasts. Spotify wherever you get your podcasts. Keep up with the latest forever dog news by following on Twitter and Instagram at forever dog team and liking on Facebook. We're going to do Shauna law to do. Yes. Sean to log is a shonda rhimes inspired monologue can be based off of something you're experiencing in your life. Right now, you could you could truly be speaking to someone who you would actually like to say this to or something that you just kind of imagine what drop into the world of grace anatomy. Only qualifications. Are that you need a single line thesis that at the very least bookends at starts and ends. And and knowing shonda it may pop up in the middle. Yes. Once five times who's to say. Yeah. And you know, doesn't have to be any particularly you'll feel it. You'll feel it. Okay. God. Who goes I it's up to you. Okay. I can confer. Okay. Okay. This is something that I actually want to say to someone. Okay. Oh my God. Yeah. I've been. Speaking of speaking Amy mount again for. Mike out there. I'm finally realizing a lot of the emotional contours that I'm dealing with in terms of how I relate to men. I am somehow drawn to emotionally unavailable men, which is so basic, but. But finally relate. But finally, putting myself before just whatever I just I wanna say this to someone who has been just just real fast and loose with me. Yeah. And. I think this might be too much information. But I I think I think this is long as the audience the listener knows that this is what's like, this is this is the audience. This is who I'm delivering this too. I think that's important. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Are we are? We are. We sending it to music or. No. Oh, yeah. We are. We actually are totally that I got so excited. Someone assembled agrees EMMY playlist and has two hundred and fifty thousand followers, and it has like hundreds of song of what most of which I hear, and I have absolutely no recollection of them being on the show some of them are the iconic went. So anyways, some of them eventually are like some of them. You press were like that's not right. But honestly, three fourths of them or something like Dingle e little number and okay? This one's called high. Hope that's gotta be right. Kerm him from. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Mike, you allot? There's no way ever going to be responsible for that. I. When I the fact that I'm hanging out with you is a huge view deal. I don't have time to dole out to any random person in my life. Okay. You don't get to squandered up. You don't get to take my time up and say, wow, while I guess, I guess I'm gonna make plans with you. And then cancel them two days later, these longstanding things that we've had these long standing plans that we've had I like you a lot in. You're not going to be responsible with that information. I said responsible for responsible with you're not going to be responsible with that information. You don't get to walk in. And make drummed through these hoops, make the have these feelings me stay in those feelings. You don't get. Be responsible for. I am emotionally available to give you. Personal way that you're going to be responsible without information. Oh, wait. I butchered it. All. Okay. Well, god. I was I'm still I'm still like still organizing my thoughts around that. But that was good felt it fell power that I wasn't ready to. We'll the no I understand. But you will did it very well, very good very much.

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GR #169.1: #RHOBH's Erika Jayne and Tom Girardi's Lawsuit & Sex Life Reaction and Rants

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16:59 min | Last week

GR #169.1: #RHOBH's Erika Jayne and Tom Girardi's Lawsuit & Sex Life Reaction and Rants

"Broadcasting from new york new york grants ransom new year new scandal. Were examining the arrogant. And tom girardi divorce and lawsuits very closely or even questioning their sex life later. Granny june and i talk about what we're doing during quarantine and reviewing what twenty twenty one. Tv shows are on our radar that and more now let the ranting begin. I am joy and through skype with granny. June flory colleague from rhode island. I'm trying to keep the traditions of the podcast live. We always kick off the new year new episode with granny. She's got some advice and guidance. Let's take a look at what's on tv. And we're going to talk a little. Bit of about erica jane. That and more welcome granny. Welcome to the pod all. hi everyone. i'm here again. Yeah happy new year to everybody. I hope everybody's staying safe with this virus so far. I'm doing pretty well myself. I've been living like a non for the past. Almost year. Saw keeping my fingers crossed. I don't get it. I hope everybody's well out there. And i'm happy to be back to talk with you. I think this is our fourth year doing this for five. It started in august so it must be our fourth year of kicking off the first episode of the year with you so famous for giving advice. I want to get your take and more about erica. jane. We'll get some advice that the but first let me set it up before the holidays. New is crazy long l. a. times article all about tom and eric jane. The anyone's interest in looking at it. You took literally. I was in line for cova. Chester thirty minutes to read the whole article the legal titan and the real housewife. The rise and fall of tom. Girardi and eric. Jane granny are you up to date on. What's happening with erica and tom. Well i wasn't up until just a couple of days ago. I didn't realize that they were actually getting a divorce. Yeah i was kinda surprised about that because to me. It seemed as though they had a pretty good marriage. Dave been together for like twenty one years and You know. I always thought it was. I always thought it was kind of that. Thirty three year difference. I i wanted you know if it made any difference and it seemed to be working for them so i was very surprised to hear that they were getting a divorce but then after i realized that they were getting a divorce. I wasn't surprised you know. There's so many years difference. And in he whenever i saw them together i mean he really looked like a an old man next to her what she was. I never believed they shared a marital bed. I never believed it because in the scenes we saw looked like she was visiting like a grandparent in a nursing home. I never believed that they were like really in each other's lives that much. They were so close. I didn't i never really bought into it. Yeah well to me. It looked as though he rarely rarely adored her. And what have you know. Done anything to keep her happy. Which i guess he did because now he's as he claims he's broke. He went through millions of dollars. Yeah well that's the whole thing. I mean how. I feel bad from the beginning because i thought she used him up. Got our fame. Got the broadway show and ditched. But now there's all this league legal ngo things. Apparently he just borrowed and borrowed money and allegedly used it Sent the he used the funds. Father things to pay off other debt and the money that was supposed to go to victims that they won in court. He pocketed himself a now. There's all this alleged thing that erica was involved that she allegedly used some of these funds for her lifestyle. So she is involved in one of these lawsuits. Was eric really in the dark here. Did she really not have a clue at the husband was doing. I don't know. And i don't think she can if he was. I don't know if she knew about it. And i don't think she can't if she did know about it Even if she did know because as long as she was getting what she wanted. You know it's the same old story. I didn't want to think that about their marriage. I thought it was working because she claimed that when they met she stood by him and helped him and devoted her life to him until time for her to have her life. And i'm sorry that it did turn out that way but it's the same old story of a of an older man being taken in by a young beautiful woman and he really believes that you know she's crazy about him so he the only thing that he feels that we'll keep her with him is to spend money on her and keep her happy that way but now it claims that he was cheating on her with son judge for about four years. Yeah that's gonna save her behind in all these legal proceedings and the divorce the fact that he stepped out on her but again what is she gonna make no. She said that she has no agreement. No prenuptial agreement with him. But it doesn't sound like he's worth anything. I mean so. I don't know what she's going to get out of it and they're going to liquidate the assets according to this unverified article. I m saying so from here on out. It's a little unverified but champagne. Shade says that basically they were doing court this week but she was on vacation with the show so she show up now a trustee was appointed for them and this bankruptcy case and they're going to go through all of their belongings including all of her jewelry and clothes and she can't hide anything because all of those items have been shown on the show. He's he's a lawyer and he knows all the ins and outs and he's done a lot of shady deals. I guess in the past. So if he had any knowledge or inkling that she was cooling off and looking to leave him he has many ways that he can hide a lot of that money and make himself look bankrupt and have nothing. I don't believe it because he would know how do that when people are going through a divorce when when a man wants to get a divorce He takes his time because it gives him time to hide his money and all his offsets. So you know that gives when it takes a long time to get a divorce of is to a man's advantage and he probably being a lawyer he probably knew just which way to go and how to hide it so but she has gotten plenty out of him join during area is she's she's verified instagram. Which is really the only currency you nowadays. But she's got the manager. She's got the agent You know you can't kill someone's career when they've got following an agent so she'll be able to do whatever she wants. This might even help her in the long run but i mean she is a woman of a particular age so like. I don't know how that's gonna work. It's not like she's got the rest of her life to be able to reinvent herself but she's also not like ancient either. I mean there's some time there. But i don't feel too bad for. I don't like erica. jane. So i mean i don. I don't have any dog in this a terrible thing. Just say i don't even like using that example. But i don't really care for either of them. I'm not interested really in what happens here. I can tell you right now. There's all these rumor reports that are out there that she's going to be talking about this a lot on the show even lisa renaissance. She's going to talk about it. I'll believe it when. I see it which i won't be seeing it because i'm not gonna watch. It's never going to happen. Someone like her is going to say. It's a legal issue. It's up to it's. It's all being reviewed by judges and lawyers in the court. I can't say anything and that's going to be the end of it. We'll see her and other ways where she won't have the the the glam squad she won't be wearing the wedding ring and then the women can talk about that. But as far as what's really happening they're not going to cover anything like that. Well the thing is this. She has used him to get less. She is today He's given her everything all her costumes and her jewelry and he he's paid for her shows and everything so she has used him to get where she is and As far as him having some kind of a relationship with another person that nan how old is he is he eighty. I believe he's an older than eighty. I believe he's about kind of what kind of a relationship is going to have with somebody else. I mean if these changing. I i'm sure he's he's just talking. I don't think he's doing much far. Sexist concerned yeah. I mean the male ego though. I mean he. He doesn't seem like a humble person. So i'll now he's never gonna stop. I've never particularly cared for either. One of them. I just thought that they had a pretty good marriage. And i'm kind of surprised. But then i am not surprised because those January and june marriages never seem to last She's gotten what she wanted out of him and don't worry she still young pretty enough that she'll find somebody else. Oh joe latch onto somebody else. Don't worry about it. she'll be fine. I agree with that. I will be interested you. The next man is because now now. We're actually going to see what her type really is. Because we've only had her with. Thomas an elderly man. So now we're going to see what kind of man is erica. Really into because she's only been surrounded by game then. So i i now. We're going to see the real eric. Come out which rise all this time on house leads. We'll never get rid of her whether you like it or not She'll she'll be there because this really gives her storyline some juice. You talked about hiding assets that now in the la times article that i read back in december. They did say that in her name like she has an llc or whatever for her production yet money was given. Money was rolled over there at some point. So i mean you know about that at the la times. I'm sure a judge is on that a lawyer is on that but you know it's interesting. Eric in the passes has made you know slight brags about you know how expensive the expensive to be music. Video was she said that she spends forty thousand dollars a month on glam. I mean so this all this information is out there so it doesn't look good. She should never put that much. Never put money. Don't discuss money especially facts and figures like that. It's all gonna come out to work against her. I don't know what she's going to walk away from this marriage with you know. The jewelry liquidated the house. That probably be foreclosed on. I mean we're gonna come out with. She'll be fine. She'll have men already knocking on her door. Why aren't you want wanting to be involved with her and she'll pick one that has money. Don't worry you'll be fine. She probably has already found somebody else. In even maybe while she was married to him so she won't she. She won't tape much time before she's back out there if she isn't already. I don't like to accuse her of anything but that's the way it goes. I won't have any trouble finding somebody else. I've make sure the they have money. I'd be more surprised if she wasn't already hooking up with somebody. I mean i. I asked somebody about this i said like how do i don't understand this. Imagine someone like for twenty one years. You have no sexual desire to step out and do anything. I don't think that those erica tom. We're doing anything but it was a female. That told me that women can go without sexists men. That can't go without it. So i mean. Are we supposed to believe though that erica went twenty one years with maybe in the beginning there was sex. I mean i don't. I feel like there's probably been an arrangement. Is what i would guess. Allegedly with us what i would guess. Well as you say she's been married for twenty one years he was like sixty Any probably was capable in those days But i'm i'm sure that She hasn't been pure as the driven snow either. I don't think in the last ten years of her life that she's had much sex with him so Maybe she's had got got it somewhere else or maybe she just was so involved in her own eagle on her own life that that was satisfying for her for a while. Maybe she didn't need the sex right then a nabet. But that's hard to believe. I mean could be Maybe she had respect. This is like a big. Maybe maybe she had enough respect firm where she didn't do it and her sexuality came out in the music and the music videos and the costumes and all that i said. Yeah i mean it could be. I don't know i. I tend to like have very little faith in people. So you know. I'm i rolling for those listening. Because i don't really know but i i don't want to put too much Which our cause moral authority and moral code. This was his third marriage so yeah time to hang it up. you know. Find somebody else if he if he really does have money somebody else. Oh latch onto him. Some of the young person that he'll feel you know it's it's it's mad. It's good for a manzi goal when they get older and i have a young beautiful girl on their arm. You know in. The girl really doesn't look to him for sex. She probably gets it somewhere else. Gets she gets the range rover. She gets the range rover. She gets the new iphone she gets. You know the trip. That's what she gets out of it. Yeah no. I don't know it'll be the real test if he was hiding money or has any money at all. He'll have a girl if he's another broke elderly man. I don't see anybody rushes his side so that that will be the test. Yeah that'll be the chest. Well let's change gears if you have any other advice. Erica are tom all i can say. Is they deserved each other. Sounds like it. Yeah no sympathy here really. I mean it's just too much going on in the world. But i feel the same way. You don't talk kardashians on this podcast. But kanye and kim the divorce i feel nothing towards it. Nothing there to hyperprivileged people. And i you know. There's just too many problems in the world to worry about these two foul them. I could care less about the conduct. Actions believe they'll talk about someone who will be fine and onto the next her anyway when we come back. We're going to talk just a little bit of a casual conversation for how we've been keeping busy during quaranteed granny's always up to something way to hear the latest what she was doing for the holidays. And then we're going to talk about interesting This tv stuff. That's coming out in two thousand twenty one. There's never been more options and yet. I still struggling to find something excites me. Why is this grainy. Look at what is coming up in the new year in on and in and around television that and more in a moment now this.

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Dr Simone & Dave Holmes - 09/30/18

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

26:35 min | 3 years ago

Dr Simone & Dave Holmes - 09/30/18

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast division of watch what happens. Live with me. Andy Cohen. Hey, guys, dandy when my dressing room getting made up and Dr Simone is here from Mary medicine with Dave Holmes from play by play on Bravo, Bravo's play by play. The audience is getting warmed up. Some of them are screaming. I hate it when they scream. I like clapping. Not screaming if you want to know my pet peeves went into no my pet peeves. Dr Simone brought cease all her husband, which is interesting because now we're gonna put him in the audience. I had all these shady questions. Why want to know if he's still friends with that Gulf buddy of his, you know. See there is some lady who has a really high pitched scream. I don't know if you could hear that, but it's bugging me, oh God, it's not good when you resent the audience members. You know what I mean? Let's see if they scream. Again, he's going to try to get them to show him how he's cheering, I think, is he is this worth waiting for? Would you rather you're the show. Okay. I guess I'll just let you hear the show. Okay. I guess you'll hear during the show. There's one high pitch lady screaming. You'll know that inside I'm dying and irritated. I might wind up saying something during a commercial break or having the audience guy sound. People tuned in when he was a j and Chiltern up your jayjay. It's with Dr Simone and Dave homes. Now. Cohen in the rubble of us on a Sunday night, enjoying a full day of rest bouldering. Although my first guy is keeping at one hundred with hundred dollar bills inter sneakers when it comes to quads, excuses, she's all tapped out from Mary medicine, paging, Dr some mode. VJ and current editor at large Esquire who's new gig on Bravo's play by play includes dishing about Bravo, and reminding Jerry O'Connell debris. So he doesn't pass out while talking how size say I'd today home. And gave is very involved in married to medicine. This season really. So good happy to see you doing well, let's see. Solar Lear. We doing much much better. He says, yes to everything. Everything. Well, you couldn't be doing worse than you are at the reunion. I will say that last night harbor on, yes. Let's. Bind the bar used to go door to door in the book of Mormon. But now he's celebrating national voter registration week by going door to door, registering voters for his initiative. Belt devote stay Ida Broadway actor Rory O'Malley. Eighteen. Are you're singing? Yes, we're just belting it out. Belt them vote. You guys drinking came alert, and when you go boat vote, delta. I guess so. Anyone say this if you're of legal age drinking till you can't spell MTV VJ that would be very drunk. Toyota and Eugene tonight we found out they're building their dream home and she's building a two story closet. Yeah, says everybody needs a two story closet, right? Disagree, right. Yeah. What what was your reaction to that? Well, it's like the going thing now is really house over a million dollars gotta have that too story clause. Really. I am out of it. Simone at last year's reunion, UNC Solta divorce off the table. I want to take a look at how you to have been doing this season. If I had not intervened in New York, we'd be divorced right now. Thank you so much flowers. Our window to the woman, they called it. It would have been. I come over in the outfit. These these, what we're supposed to be doing and we're doing it. Please Olympics resort happy to see as me. Yeah. He's got to ask or you still in touch with your golfing buddy is over. It's over over how. So he was a man of his word about that. And that was at the reunion that was a big concession that he when he offered that up to when he offered that was that was that a little bit of a game changer for you when that night? It was a big game changer. But the fact is we were both just stubborn set in our ways. Nobody was listening to the other person, and it took us a few months to let go of those ways. Well, I'm glad we're doing much by graphic. Questions for Dr Simone, Dave homes are coming in, but before we get to those, here's what three things I'm obsessed with tonight I on tonight's, Mary medicine quad went to Dr Jackie for dinner. And when Greg tried to call quad, he was denied a reservation watch and don't put my problems. My third on other people. Angel. The time when I was adamant I was divorced saying, he's really trying to find you. Do you need anything. Okay. What isn't brother now? You know, we don't really have much conversation his wife. Well, Gregory's nervous right now. Gregory knows I'm ten minutes from the in his. Wow. I mean, that was. That was heavy. Yeah. Okay. Meanwhile, here's what when the men all got together for barbecue, they made sure to fully marinate over Greg and quads marriage. Take a look. How have you been doing? Okay. Just fresh spot. So stressed out. A moment of a ski. I didn't feel like I had tried everything to save money. When is the time to say, I love you enough to let you go. Which could retire if this is what you want. Stay the course. Well, I'm curious for both of you. It doesn't. It doesn't totally seem like Greg is kind of into doing the work. I mean, am I wrong. The truth. Actually, to be honest and the, you know, we're friends and he acts like he wants to do the work. Really, he does. He talks about, you know, hoping that quad will turn and come back. And while it just seems like mentally quiet been gone for years. Right? Okay. I feel like I'm at a reunion right. I'm telling you very medicine gets real. It's weekly risen up to like the top of the rain. Great on last week's medicine, heavenly anger management counselor felt that her spiritual journeys should include a healing pitstop in her hometown of Miami. So here's what having LeBron doctors, Jackie and Simone down to Miami, so that they could be on call to call her out on her. BS watched us. I think it bothered me that'll be demand mother never say she wondering that you considered what that might do for you. If you go back to where you're from. People that feel closest to when you come back with the b word and your mama, that is retaliation girl. So it didn't mean anything to me, but mama's back in the day could say really harsh things and it stuck with. Seem like heavenly was doing the work there. It doesn't really a lot of a lot of driving around in a convertible floppy hat. I have no problem with anyway. Right? Yeah. Great. When I think it was the trip was really about just going back to the root of who have unle is and why she does the job and we got to the root of the problem change. Okay. Okay. Peak of that coming up in a little bit. Finally, Dave may have a podcast by the name home of feel ya. But when it comes to where gay guys stand on Bravo issues as he LGBT queued in, here's what, let's let's find out with play by play. We have called forty gay guys on all things. Bravo, Dave gas, which way the gay guys swung. Boy, I've I've not traditionally good at knowing what. Gay guys say was a bigger gay icon, Erica Jane or the Countess. Oh, boy, that's a geographical one. I I'm gonna I'm gonna say Erica Jane. You got it. Yes. The fiercest looks Cynthia Bailey or door eat there. There is, there is anger towards in the gay community. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go Cynthia, you got it. Shade puts all others to shame, Karen Huber or Niimi leaks. Did they say, can you even Stephanie leaks? It's a landslide. Garrity captain Lee or bearded Ryan, sir hand Ryan with a beard Ryan without a beard Ryan with a mohawk Ryan. Seventy three percent. Everybody's what your for her. I guess he's four foot four now. For what board. Richaud, gee, is the true Queen bee Ramona singer or Lisa Vander pump? Did they say, what do you think be green bit? Yes, Lisa. Yes, you're right. Oh, good below deck. Who would you rather go below deck with? We asked Joe wow or Conrad. Do. Jerry calls from Jay while home Joe and I, Joe, you gotta. I say no more who charms you more. We asked Craig or Shep Craig terms me more seventy. Seventy spokesman for the gay community. Get to turns during girls night to render or Kelly died? Well, I mean both but. Got to give the slight edge tutoring. Really, really good. Oh, yeah. I'm sure Leslie are wanting to know if you feel weird about Greg hanging out with the other married men in the group. I don't feel weird about it at all, Greg and quite have both been around and it would be difficult to let Greg go. What has a problem with it hoops too bad. We'll how size of New Jersey. There was a posh fashion show. There's of course standoff, and then a huge fight where Danielle loses a piece of sculpture and as the cloud of dust and high heels and fists goes down the hall. There's a partygoer who we see she's never named, but she just goes dust as such game. Like that and I swear to God. I think about this woman once a week in a second. I think we've dug it up. Can we take a look at that? We have. Tomorrow night. Okay. Let's go to Sara from Seattle on the line is Sarah. What your question. Hi guys. My my question is for Dr Simone didn't you're very close to divorcing see. So is there any vice you can get the quad help? Save her marriage question. There's lots of advice ACA give to my girlfriend if just she would listen. But one of the things that I've told quite more than once is that I feel that she needs to get in counseling the entire time I was separated from cease while I was in counseling because I did not want to hate him for the rest of my life. Well, that's because you have children together and correct, but I think you just need to be whole and healthy and quad is not in a good place right now, let's go to counselling always additive of Dave. Brian h wants to know if you were in the building when Mariah crash TRL that time I tell you something I was like, that was the five minutes of MTV career that I was little. Over it. I was a little jaded, yes, and and I was like, AmeriCares coming in to go home, and then I swear to, I went home and I turned on the TV and it was like, oh, we had an ice cream cart as amazed like this is. I mean it's also human being melting down. So it's like maybe the best that I miss v. Yes. Our next Mary medicine during the lady's trip to Miami things with heavenly, go waste out. Here's a sneak peek. Blocked it out into like eight to that door. Can we go back. Purpose to get this parents want. They want us to be better and look at you. I remember phone call, I get what he died after the funeral, I stayed away. So it sounds like I mean, it seems like the trip is going to be a success. Yeah, let's go to Christi from Alabama. With a question for Dave Holmes. Handy by. I just wanted to know. Do you think this question for days you think the OC housewives are being judgmental to Gina's marriage and divorce plan. Do I really do? I think I think Gina. I mean, it may not go smoothly as she thinks that it's going to, but just because these women had bad experiences doesn't mean everyone's gonna. Have bad explained that note, Corey w texted Dave. What was your reaction to Kelly's big fight with Shane. And do you think our ability was genuine? Okay. Shane has a face that you wanna yell at, so I don't. I don't blame Kelly for doing it. I really don't. Simone, Eric g wants to know the biggest lesson you learned about your relationship with c. selector being on Dr. Phil this week. The biggest lesson that we learned was we don't speak each other's love language and we have to get back to it. We used to. We've been married for twenty two years. Okay. I hope you do. Maybe this game will get you back into it. It's gametime everybody. Quick-witted literal doctor, but will their superior mental accurate serve them in a game that's basically tic TAC toe for drunk adults. Let's find out with Bravo with squares probabation you're gonna take turns picking a square and listening to a Bravo team statement. Then you'll agree or disagree. If you're right, you get the square. If you're on your opponent, does I to get three in a row winds? Dr? Simone, you will go first high stars. Okay. Pick a star Simone, how Jerry O'Connell. Smart woman. She's a doctor. Okay. Jerry, what's your statement? Ramona singer going gonna cramp in her leg during the reunion because she took a spin class, you agree or disagree? Yes, yes. This gone, Brendan Shaab had some Brendan Sean from play-by-play. Okay. Brendan Rizza and m j admitted. They had sex three times. Agree or disagree. I think it was just a once. I disagree. Okay. You're right. Yes, he's still get the square. Alright, Simone out. Take Mercedes'. Okay. MJ give it to me. During your fight? Also once called Gijon a string bean with a wig on she correct or incorrect. I'm going to say, no, you are correct. She called with the square where you go in Dave home when go quad, okay, you go in doing Jane cookout. Okay. Jane. Below decks, captain sandy was once chase down by killer Segel's while sailing in the Red Sea. All, I think it was pirates also think it goes not a thing. Okay. You're correct. By parrots. Alright, Simone, pick a square. I will go with Porsche or show. What do you got. Sarang. Can you fight about baseboards and trim after playing laser tag? Okay. Is she right. Yes. She's. After an escape room. Dave gets the square you going for the win there with Jude ever. I o Bridget could've gone with quantum to sorry. CoCo once pooped onto Renta's floor? Is she right? That feels like the truest thing that I've ever heard. Dave Scott s. wants to know your favorite memory of being one of the first people to interview Britney Spears back at them TV. Oh, wow. It was. I mean, he was clearly on the way up. Yeah, but also clearly like it was like she had a shock collar so it was just like if she couldn't say anything remotely controversial, right? So you'd be like, hey, you know what time is? It should be like all day is terrific. Our special, it's own way. Just use very media coach. Dylan see emailed you think quad likes hanging out with her sisters or go friends because they don't call her out on her Bs. Yes, I think that is a true statement. You liked that statement? I love it. Yes. Okay. Let's go to Kimberly from California with a quick question for Dr. Simone, what is it tonight? I got a two part question. Yeah, to fit Mariah at heavenly will ever get along. And Secondly, do you think that Ashley has received on the other major. And will Jack unquestioned will they ever get along and does Mariah have the receipts, I think Mariah and heavenly. Will never get alone. Wow, wow. They may become civil, but they will never be friends. And I think that mariah's at a point where she could be forced to produce those receipts, but I never ever ever doubt Mariah. Oh, okay. It's my. For my day goes to the building in China that's being called out for looking a lot like a giant penis and testicles with within exciting fireworks display to Mark the mid autumn. Is that building seeing anybody. You know, I like mid autumn as much as building seems to really, really like men on them. Tonight's shackle goes to the woman who lost her life savings because she stored the cash in her freezer and returned the freezer to Costco without taking it out. Next time, man, Mary suggest this method of storing your savings. Night, keep it one hundred. Advice, Dr through everybody. I want to. Got Dave home. Occurred Rory O'Malley is. Votes national week of action. It's right. Yeah. Timber twenty seconds to twenty national voter registration week. Oh. Just about everybody doesn't do anything, breezy belt, the vote, dot org, and you can get registered. We're getting all the theater nerds out to vote November six. Good, yeah, good. Let's go to Melissa from Virginia. Hey, Melissa, which question for Dave Holmes. Hey, Andy wanted to ask Dave, Dave. Do you think that leeann blabbing about the Andras Bank account was out of concern or was she just being shady? Oh, that was that was. If you were really concerned, you would take the person aside, you maybe lend them a buck or two. You definitely wouldn't spread it around. But I, I also think that it wouldn't be as big a deal. If it weren't a little bit trial, deandre word a little broke. She wouldn't be so like upset about it. Let's go to Sara from Texas. Say, Sarah, what's your question. Picture Farren Osara yet. Hi, Sarah. And I love you on indie radio of Agu radio, India. Thank you. My question for you. After seeing what contests is going through, do you feel like Toya owes her an apology for how she treated her over secret phone at her party. I think that as friends, we owe each other mutual respect. And fortunately contest has been very dismissive to Toya and. It, it's hurting toys feelings because she is continual continuously being dismissive, and I think both friends, each other mutual respect. Let's go to jail him Indiana. Hey, gel. Which question. Hi, n d. Okay. So my questions days. What has been your all time favorite moment that has ever happened on Bravo. It is good. It's real good. I, I will tell you it was within the last year. It was Katie on vendor pump rules, tearfully, recounting her origin story of falling through a skylight and then never explaining how human being would come to fall through skylight. Right? What is she like a crimefighter. Right. What I don't. She did explain it on later union. Yes, yes, yes. But that was that was like a dangling participle. It really was. It really was waiting for that other to drop for a long time. Let's go to Cindy from Florida. Cindy. What your question. My question is for Dr Simone. Why were you still tough on quad at the crab boil when it was clear that she was just not ready to open up? Well, quite hadn't been coming around for a few weeks and she is clearly opening up to her girlfriends on sister circle. So the bullshit is if you could open up till one group that who just met, surely you can talk to and confide in people that have been around for six years who've had your back who cried with you, who've laugh with you is just that simple less call that I-. 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Hollywoods Top Scandal with Top Celebrity Publicist and fixer, Jack Ketsoyan (#28)

Velvet’s Edge

57:13 min | 1 year ago

Hollywoods Top Scandal with Top Celebrity Publicist and fixer, Jack Ketsoyan (#28)

"The. Hey, it's Ray lunchbox and Eddie, and we are the sore losers. Three guys in their thirties. Based in Nashville who loved to talk about sports, even though we're not right all the time. Our podcast features commentary on daily sports stories with our added humor between us friends ball along on iheartradio or subscriber every year podcasts. What's up? You. Guys are listening to velvets edge podcast this week. I had the chance to interview jackets soy in who is a huge celebrity publicist in Los Angeles. He specializes in crisis management. So obviously, he's got stories for days. Some of his clients include Erica, Jane, Kim, Zoll Ceac, Nick Carter, Kristen Cavalieri, and it's also used to rep Paris Hilton back in the day. So he gave me a couple of fun facts about her that I was honestly shook by we also talked a lot about just the behind the scenes of Hollywood. These me Hollywood's best kept secret. I'm not even joking. And it's very surprising. We talk through some fashioned tips and just any advice that he would give to anyone trying to break into the entertainment world. So super informative jacks. Also hilarious. So I think you guys will enjoy here's Jack. I'm going to be laughing before even. Jack kelly. I'm here with jackets soy in. Who is a celebrity publicist in Los Angeles actually went on look to you up. It says you are celebrity publicist who specializes in crisis management. Yeah. I know scary. But crazy, but I guess throughout my career. I've had girls who have been in more trouble than you can imagine. Tell us more. Here's thing. I think every time I've ever worked with the client. There's always been some kind of crisis management that it had to be doubt. Let you know. I started young in the business. And then I got promoted young in business as well. So my first client was Kristen cavalier who you know. Sure. A lot of crisis management there throughout the Laguna beach the hills. Yes. And then my second kind Paris Hilton. So God all day as to all the way to up until the end of the was gonna come out. That's when we kind of stop working together. So all through hurry -ality show, all the crate didn't she have a couple of sex as yet Seattle tape. There's just one one it was just one. Wow. There was other ones that was rumored to be out there, but actually never really didn't exist. Yeah. Because those days were when the sex tapes were hot nowadays, no one really cares about the sex tape nowadays. I said sex things are out. It's all about the all too leber tweets way. What do you mean? Well, all these celebrities are getting in trouble for. Having like crazy tweets that they've tweeted fifteen I like and most of them are like racist. It's coming back to haunt them. So I'm like forget about the sex tapes. It's all about what you tweeted back in the day when you were like young and stupid, right? I mean, I feel like now a sex. It's like everyone's seen what's happened to Kim Kardashian. They're like, I'm putting a sex tape. How damn well. I mean, everyone tried one. We saw was China. I missed that one. As you watch it. It's very slob kebab. Trop lever. Like actually nothing exciting about watching now on. So that's why I don't I don't think maybe didn't go anywhere because nothing like racy or crazy in there. And it's very boring. Well, also now, there's so much porn out there. It's like what are you gonna do to jazz jarring her socks into video? Why? How dare you? You're gonna make a sex tape. The first thing that should come off your socks. Let's be real here a low why just bizarre make like dang. We get more better orgasm. If you have your sac solders. I don't know. I don't know about that thing if that's the thing. I'll try it. But naked unless you something outside somewhere in the public my God. So okay. So crisis management. I want to talk more about this because I do a huge fan of scandals. Of course, exactly what came into my mind. Is that like what you do? Are you like the Olympia pope of celebrity city pretty much? Exactly what you do. There is something going on in the client's life or something as. A big scandal is brewing. Then you just have to figure out. How do how do you divert the scandal? Or how do you get out of the scandal? Looking. Like nothing ever happened or does make it disappear nowadays, it's very hard to do that because of social media and internet back in the day. There was only few tabloids and a couple of newspapers. And that was it and people didn't pick up the newspaper. If you didn't pick up the tabloids. You would have never known about it. But now it's like it's in your face. You would know about it. Yeah. What do you do about that? Because I mean, if someone's filming something impose it on social media. Can you get stuff like that taken down? Right. I mean, sometimes here's the thing. If it depends on the outlet, you could make a deal with outlet that if they bought the footage from the person, then if you make a deal with them, then it would make a disappear. Okay. But they don't agree to what you have to offer. Then they'll put it up. There's no control over. That's why I think a lot of people are asking a couple of days ago, like wise and celebrities don't go out anymore to clubs one reason is that everyone is Papa. They don't have a safe place to enjoy their out and being happy doing what they need to do without getting a camera or some cell phone pictures being taken of them. So they don't they're not really doing the club days anymore. Valiquette? It used to be. No, there's no secrecy. We should mention to we mentioned that you worked with Kristen formerly worked at Paris Hilton. Some of your other clients right now are Nick Carter Erica Jane, Bryant night, Kenzo Ceac and her whole clan. Correct. Whole family and the Keita's dragging that huge YouTube star star. Yes. So who's your most troublesome? Client only. Only. I mean, we doubt some stuff with Kim last year with the housewives that was really difficult. The houses are always kind of you know, they they were. There was a lot of stuff in math that we had to deal with last year that was kind of hard. But apparently, I think everyone has just been very quiet. The no trouble yet. I mean Kushner has been open about her Jay's relationship and people are trying to spin that into something bigger and they're trying to do set up. Really? I'm like, well, you're just literally watching the show, and you're spinning her wards into something that she already talked about. So what is their new that? No one knows about that. She hasn't said some of the toddlers are trying to spend that so that's pretty much it for the moment. Everyone else has been very behaving for now. So what is your worst nightmare as publicist because even just thinking of this is it your fear that you're gonna wake up in the morning, a semi. Emme blown up on the internet that just went terribly wrong. Always. I getting Zion. I wouldn't even now in my phone rings. I getting Zaidi, especially if it's from a client. I'm like. Yeah. Happening because if they usually just text you, but Mike if they're calling me there must be something going wrong. So that's so time it gets a little bit scary. But I think in majority of in the sense of it. I think everyone is just cautious. Now, a little more on what what they're doing what they're saying. And where they're going because they know what's going to happen. Right. So you're just a little smarter more aware of your surroundings. I mean, the PR days ten years ago is completely different PR nowadays. What do you mean? Back in the day. It was just PR PR one to one it was we had ten different outlets that you worked with. And that was it nowadays most clients, they're like, I don't wanna be on in in in a magazine, I wanna be online 'cause more balls. Oh, you could have a great feature in a magazine. But no one is buying it. That's so God about that. And also most people feel like when if I already read a story online, why am I gonna spend four dollars by magazine? That's the problem. We're having. But that's also like one of the hard things for us. Because once you get something online, it's really hard to get something off of online right again. It goes depends on the outlet. Some outlets will work with you to change something. It's not just depend on how creditable out lettuce. And if they're willing to play with you was the worst thing you've had to deal. Do you have to pay people off? I've never had to pay off. I'm like so thinking scandal right off, but I've had to make certain deals to like, we'll give you this for that. Do x y and z for this. So it just a matter of like, spitting it to what the client is comfortable giving them in that killed because is it like TMC's, they'll call you or whatever and say, hey, we have this story. We're going to run it tomorrow. Yup. And then you can either as a publicist. What's your decision? This. Here's think something's. Something that they're going to run is worked killing or something are not sometimes I will just be like let it letter von Ken, and you're going to be forgotten tomorrow. If it's if it's not worth why fuel the fire if they're by in sending statement or talking about it. You just feeling the fire. It's going to go even broader and bicker. Sometimes it just better to let it come out. And then just go away tomorrow because guess what there's plenty of people out there that they're going to do something that's going to kill it. So you just gotta let it ride it. And just let it happen for itself. I know some people are just some celebrities. Now are so quick to jump to the gun and start going off on Twitter, although golf on in there and Sagramola I'm like, that's the worst thing you could ever do for yourself, not helping the situation like if hypothetically if someone was not reading TMZ would not have never known about this. But now since you put it on your Instagram, your divall is that you have now know about it. Well, right. You. Make it more of a story. Christians actually taught me that because people are haters on the internet, you know, and I always want to fire back like, I'm so Louisiana. So I get real fiery when people start talking shits me about stuff on the show. And she's like, no, you cannot respond. You can't make it a snowy. You can't get into. Yeah. The funny. It's I get hate from people. Yeah. It's just the way it is. Yeah. Live in a world that people are not happy with themselves. They'll come after you are used to say Jesus loves you too. Mesh take whatever they say something that I'll be like Jesus loves to. And for some reason, it makes them really angry or just shut them up. And they go way right now, I make if you're coming to my page to write something hateful. Clearly, you taking so much time out of your day to come in hate on me. Clearly, I did something. Correct. Are you just a stupid fan, right Lee? You know, it's like, I cannot you cannot pay attention to it or like get into it because you will be lost in the world of internet. Sally has there ever been anything that you didn't know how to fix for client? Actually now, look at you. I honestly, no we've pretty much everything that any scandal that we have had in my life. We've kind of navigated in a way that we've come out of it without any without any problems. Have you ever been like shit? I make their own decision. There are we should have gone. The other way we've says yes, there has been moments. Like that. Like, oh, why do we respond to this would have been fine? If we did end. So nowadays, I think for me I have to sit back for a second. And I'll give it a second before we respond to it. Let's see what the reaction is going to be before we say something because I feel like when you're too quick to respond to something before it's Bruno. It's already become something you just don't know what's going to happen. So sometimes I'll be like, let's give it a day and see what happens more morning if tomorrow morning, this is still continuing. Then we'll say something if it's not then guess what was yesterday's news. Right. So. Let's move on from it because it's just not gonna help the situation. I wish I could give you some examples. But I can't because everyone's really down. I'll tell you that affair combat. Even recently there's been few things that I'm like, I'm glad that we did not respond to it, really. And just let it ride that would be so hard though, especially if you're just sitting there going, oh my God this because it's your whole reputation of cloud. It's really hard for clients because they're like are you sure I feel like we're we mean to say something I am really positive on this. If I didn't think I was or I felt like we had to do it. Then we would have make. I know just give it a second. Let's see what the real story is going to be tomorrow morning because you just sometimes you don't know the exact situation, right or you don't know what they have their targeting you what they have. And or you just don't know how people are going to respond. If people don't give a shit about. It's ari. You can cuss on here. They don't care then. You're you're good. Why why feel the fire again, it goes back to do you talk about it? And it's going to go worldwide quickly. It takes so much confidence. Just to go. Okay. Let's just sit on us and disguise with it. That's why the next hor for ours, please get off Twitter. Yeah. And got off and social media normal person for the next twenty four hours you could live without social media for the next twenty four hour. It's not gonna kill you. We even doing this for a really long time. Right. You got started at sixteen got started at six tally impossible. I was in school, and I need to do a job for credit basically high school last year of high school, and I started working at a small PR firm. And and I kind of never left like what's your back story? Can you walk us through it footing in back like workwise by just backstory like where did you said you start at sixteen at the small PR farm. And we did Mamane Lee products. It was like I worked on diaper genie, which is still around and guy sold for billions of dollars when I was working with him. I actually also worked on this company called twelve seat covers toilet seat. It was a plastic wrap that you would put it on. They have that in the airport in New Orleans still this day. So basically, you're put it on. I was like how is this going to work 'cause you're gonna literally touch thing like that? But I know, but now the the upgraded the have the button it was like you would slip it on yourself. Oh, gross. Oh, yeah. That's I started working there. And this woman started working with us. And she was like, hey, I'm my daughter's working on the Grammy's, and she needs someone to help out. Would you wanna do it? As a Grammy shirt, I showed up and they were like explain never gonna be escort for the day. Like being basically someone's bitch for the day. And I I got. Some celebrity and I started working with that person. And then they kind of this is really what I love. And then all of a sudden, I was like flying all over the place doing workhouse every single of worship that was out there. I was a town escort to different people and one of the publicist. She was like you really good at this. And you know lot. She's like, what are you doing? Now. Go on more at a PR firm now, I'm working for products. He's like, well, you should do talent. And she's like I'm actually looking for someone to work for me. Do you want to work for me? I was like, okay. What am I getting paid? Right. What what is the salary looked like that was it? So I moved into that company. I actually was crazy 'cause we just were talking about this from Cup of my co workers I had to bring a fake ID to get the job. Drink could you know, I could not time was nineteen. She was like, I can you can you work the gas. I've literally had to get a fake ID to get the job and it worked and then when they celebrated my twenty first birthday they're like confused by like, yeah. Is a fake ID to get this job. And that was the butt of jet for the company for a while that the higher g with the guy D C. You just had a natural talent for this. Here's thing. I always say PR is either you do or you don't have to come within. It's not that you're going to have to go to school and study for it or take get into college degree honesty. If it doesn't help whatsoever. No. I actually have a PR degree very look what I'm doing with my life. I always say that. I'm like, I'm so happy that I mean, I quit halfway through him which mom was not very proud of me about that. Because I was like, okay and pissing on my mic all the money that you spent on on college. Now, I'm going to be a publicist mom. I got a job fulltime. So but looking back now thank God. I didn't have those debts to pay out, right? Has most people are still in debt from going to school, right? So happy. I don't have to worry about that. But that was kind of like the opening for me at just starting. The thought firm, and then from there, my I had a really good boss who actually let me do what I wanted to do. He was just not into traveling much. So he would send means that of him going. So that's the fun part for me. That was I was like, hey, I'm like, it might twenties and travelling the world and seeing things that I would have never thought I would ever be able to see enough seen after world with someone else's dime. Right. Not complaining about that. Right. So if I if I don't think it was him like giving me the free reigns to do what I wanted to do. I would not be here. I am of kind of like self top myself and kind of took it from there. Yeah. And it was just the best thing that happened. Well, so when did you go out on your own? So it was two thousand A okay around there. I was we basically the company was working with they got bought out by corporate propaganda. I call it. And it just became the have to be here had eighty nine AM and go home at six pm. I'm not who I am. I was like listen I worked until two AM last night with the client at the premier and the party afterwards. I'm not coming in at nine AM when I'm like, literally dead already. It's not happening. So we just became like that and just took took away the fun out of it. And then when they start giving you clients that you don't want to work on like chefs. I don't know how to chef. Right. I'm not interested in chef I've worked with chefs before. But it's not my Sandra wheel schtick. It's not my, you know. So I was like all of a sudden I was getting people that I don't wanna be around or work with them. Then you become miserable. I was miserable at the job for a while. So I was like listen I'm going to need to go somewhere else. So I left there and got another job at another firm. I actually ended up crying at the firm seven for seven days when I was working there. I it was just the most horrendous experience I've ever had in my life. They had been listening, but they had one Email for the whole company. What do you mean? One Email address on Email address for the whole company. There's pobably twelve people working there all had to use the same Email address. Sense. Exactly. And I was promised. I was going to get my own Email, but didn't happen because she was controlling Isleta had to sit there and funnel through my emails to find that made. Like this Email is for me. But also, I have kind who are Email me private things. There's private contracts going on private business going on. I don't need all twelve people to be seen this. So I was just it was bad. Literally was like my God. What am I going to do like this just so horrendous and the seven day I had one of my clients was like, hey, listen, I I could see your miserable miserable. If you want to leave and start your company will back you up, and we'll give you whatever you need. Just go on your own. Do your thing you could do this. So friend of mine had a. An agency, but he was just up. He was a talent agent more for hair makeup people. And I ended up just working in his office nuts how it happened. Then two years later, I met my business partner Ben, and he was doing corporate, and he was like I want nothing to do with talent. And I was like I want to do with carpet. Perfect. Here's my corporate clients that are reaching me out. And he's like, here's the celebs that wanna work with me. I don't want nothing to do it. So kind of me merge together. That's how it happened. Now can use later. Wow. God it's been a long time. Well, now, not only are you just a publicist you're an author. I am let's talk about these books because here's what's interesting to me. So Jack has written two books. Now one is called blind item. And then the follow up to blind. Adam is guilty pleasure. Yes in so. Okay. Give just give the people the backstory of these books what tell them the premise. So basically the backstory of the book is me and my writing partner Kevin Dixon who he worked at a tabloid. We'd at him, and I became fast friends because of a client that I was working with. And she was a lot of problem. Lot of trouble, and he reached out to me one day to, hey, if I could meet him for coffee, and we met we hit it up and became fast friends. So throughout the years. You would do this kind of meeting every once once a month or twice a month and just like sitting there and just gagging and having fun and talking about things that we had seen or the scandals that were going on going on in Hollywood and just like being just being. Two girls. So. As you know this couple of years ago me, and I'm like we need to ride like we need to write about. We have so many great stories that are all the behind behind the drama. And there was never been a book that really opened up the Reverend fall into the the rope. Sorry and shows you what really goes down in a PR firm south. But this is my question to you. Because that's so fascinating. I also see a lot of the behind the scenes stuff and part of our job is to protect the secrets, right? Like, wouldn't you say the publicist? That's your biggest Vannatter big and the whole world. No matter what. So that's why we became clever and each of the characters are based on certain people that are some of them are two people in one and change their nationality. We made a boy into a girl. So that no one really audience who is reading dental really get to guess what these scandals are. So the whole the book books take place in a about a girl. Comes from a small town. She moved to LA and starts working at a PR firm. Shocker. And she makes it big because she's always at the right place at the right time. And she knows what she's doing sometimes she's lost too. But it just about her journey and the PR world. And then there's she has to two friends and the butter life, and what really goes down in scandal world that we live in and kind of opens up. Yeah. It opens up the eye of the reader of like what really goes down, and it's a quick read. Which is what we wanted. It's an easy read and also just fun to read and people are it's funny. How different people have different reaction to it. And the number one question that we still get asked about as is marriage is really range in Hollywood. Right. I read a lot of stuff about that regarding these books, but is it like what you hear about? Okay. So always hear Tom Cruise. It's like, oh, he's gay. So we're gonna rant and I can't comment on that. And that's. Just the I mean, not my client. Everyone get his past. And if you calculate right wreck all his marriages lasts about two years and all of the women. He married were not as famous when I started. And then it's catapulted their career. Here's thing any any actress in Hollywood who struggling a they could become an overnight. Success if you dating the right person. So as a publicist is that something that you've ever had to arrange or all the time? What of course, rearing were alike have them be at the right place at the right time. Oh my God. That's so interesting. And also, I'm just thinking in my head that Kristen told me that her publicist. Jay's publicist set them up. Don't. No, it's really it's really still happened. And also like specially sometimes a heart throb will have a movie coming out and they'll instead of him being singled. They want them to have some kind of scandalous or talk about put them with a girl. So that's still happening. Currently go to all. Now, I have so many questions. I'm like wanna ask you who? I don't really want out the mount, but there's so many there's so many there's so many in the burgers one starlet in in Hollywood she's been through now four five of them. What's she's literally on mission to make keep her relevant as much as possible? So do we know like as a viewer? Do we know that or do we just look at it and go oh poor girl? She's lost in love and poor girl. Wow. Because it's all calculated correctly. And it's done the right way. And it's very much that my mind is blown right now. Like, I thought it happened a couple times or like there was just, you know, maybe someone who was like, oh, it's not going to help my career to be gay. I'm a heartthrob or something, you know, for women. So that doesn't work. But no this happens all the time. This happens all the time. Wow. I mean being gay is acceptable. Now more than. Go. But still there is all there's a lot of guys who still have the hard time getting that leading role. We're right or be playing that leading world because people audience really doesn't investigate because they're gay. Right. I don't want to so sad. But true that so they kind of have to stay in the 'cause it and protect their identity in order to play that action hero or play that macho man that they're supposed to play. So our people in Hollywood aware of that and the rest of us just aren't or. Okay. So you guys know too. And it's the, wow, there's some of the I always Democrats worst kept secret in Hollywood. Right. But the outside world doesn't really idea. They don't get it. Then some people are Saudi just not done much in tune to it. They don't wanna be. They don't wanna you wanna you wanna believe in the love story. Yes. Wow. So in this book you guys write a fictional? Title to characters, and it's exactly version of that chain navigating our with all different troubles than situations that she gets involved in or her clients are in this situation. She has a fun crazy BAAs who's she's out there the biggest personality, and she's really funny and a lot of people love her leading about her. So it just basically just navigating in the Hollywood PR world and just gives you the glimpse of the inside that no one really has been able to see or talk about but in a fun way. But they're based on to store all stories fictional characters. Said, hey, so did anyone get pissed at you in the book came, oh like old clients or something? No. Yeah. But tell us the story of I got the phone call. And it was basically saying that I heard that you did a book, and it's about what has transpired that we've been through together. And I said, yes, I said I've. Just wanted to shirt you that I'm happy to send you the book. So you can read it. And there's nothing that anyone is going to know that it is you or you're gonna be outed unless you wanna go on dash on TV and do it yourself. That's your problem. Not my way. So that was Ed and then. The reading it got tech saying, I hate you. Okay. Bye. But also certain Gramley who was afraid of a two, and I know that they call people magazine trying to get a copy of it. And we got the phone call. But it was I'm like there's nothing in this book about you guys whatsoever. So I cannot wait to this. Now, it's says on the front sexy fund read, it is it is so speaking facades and Hollywood I read somewhere else that you said Paris Hilton has actually smart. She's very smart. What's yes? So like businesswoman. Smart this. I mean, here's thing a lot of people just look at her as the girl from simple life from simple life has empire behind her. She has over forty something stores around the world. Nothing but Paris Hilton merchandise, I heard she's huge Japan beyond belief. And then she's the most successful perfume per celebrity who has perfume lines out of any of the celebrities there. I think she's going onto her thirty eight cent. That's crazy. So I mean, not by being dumb. You're not really going to be where you are. It's off on top. Let's be honest. I'm much as people wanna hate on her and complain about her DJ -ing girls still bringing a million dollar check from Europe for DJ sets for one DJ letting three days or two day DJ says she gets at least a million dollars. So she knows what she's doing what she's doing. It's so weird. Because like I feel like since the Kardashians kind of took over. I don't hear. She's not on my radar for some reason. But recently someone said that about just in Asia, she is like huge people die. It's all like Beata visa. Yeah. People wanna call it like she's she has the her presidency down there. Wow. And then in Asia, it's unbelievable. I think worldwide I mean, the people more are obsessed with her and care about her team. The US is more kind of gone down. She's kind of made her way back in the US at the moment. There's a lot more attention onto her especially with the wedding was happening, and I know wedding now, I'm like, wait. Wasted a weddings? Aw, weddings off was that a scandal. Was that like a complete facade? And I don't know honestly. But that's off. So I think in the US, you know, people are paying more attention now than I think before, but she's made a really good living of herself don't think she has any problems. Are there any other like major Hollywood facades that we need to know about as like like relationships or what else would there be? I mean, this whole Paris Hilton thing is kind of stick, right? Like, I mean, the biggest. Facade. I would say it would be the setup relationships. And then after that is just like some people have gone to extent when they drop off the map they've gone to the extent to fake of addiction fake addiction fucked up thing I've ever he pulled will do anything to get back. There startled at my guy. Here's Hollywood loves when someone is been trenches and they've been put through something. Right. They all we all love comeback store. Come back. It's such. So some crazy people who believe it or not have. I some reason thought it would be great idea to have an addiction or go to rehab to to come out looking like roses and we start their career. Oh my God. I mean, it is like so cutthroat here. I feel like it's that way in Nashville to there's there's things like there's behind the scenes that we all know. But Hollywood seems just like another level. I think it's so hard for these people. Sometimes even if you look at it, you're when you're on India, man, everyone is pulling you in every direction. So you're getting all these attention and comes one day, all of a sudden all that is gone. You're alone. The only people they have worked who are there for you? As the people who are you who who basically you're paying them to be around you which is crazy every everyone else is gone. You're the groupies that you were hanging out with 'cause you were able to buy bottles of service of in things at the club. Or they were getting free perks are off of you is poof gone. So that's hard. You know, you go from being top topnotch celebrity to being the D list on the totem pole paparazzi following you. Nobody's asking for autographs. No, one can even recognize you. So it's really hard for sometimes for these celebrities who have had that. And then they lose it completely today. Just get desperate to stay relevant pretty much. You have to. Also, some of them didn't really think about investing. So their burqas buck, right? So from your perspective as someone who's been in the scene for so long. How have you kept your head on straight? Here's thing. I think one thing you have to always say when I work with someone you have to think about the longevity and quality over quantity press. You have to think about that. And also if you keep it classy, keep it cool and keep it relevant on what's happening, and what's going on with with the changes that are happening with our society, then you'll stay relevant. But if you're going to be old and stale then good luck to you in Jesus loves you too. So just got to be relevant with the times. Yeah. Keep the always say as much as people want everyone to be an open book a little bit of the mystery is always good to have because then I'm going to crave. More. But if you're like a total open book, I don't wanna be around. I already already seen everything. What is what is there? More left to to know about you and him very thing about your life. Great. You're going to be hot now. Come and talk to me and six months, right? Are you really going to be element in six months? No, one knows probably not gonna leave a little mystery. We gotta live a little bit of a mystery because you want them to that person. I think who's done that really well beyond for sure, you know, even everything. Well, she she's she's she gives you she lets you into her life. But it's not as much as you want to be in there. No, she does a documentary. And then she disappears for six months, whatever. Yeah. Kind of done in a really clever way. Thanks. But you still don't you still don't know her? That's so true. But you don't want thing she's done that with her life. And with her career thing is amazing because she's kept at mystery on. We're still interested like no tomorrow. And that's what it you know, it's about that. I think you have to keep it to that. So when you were writing a book, how did you worry that you're gonna lose all your clients? But putting that stuff out there at first I did that was we know we took us about almost three years. Four years. We had a lot of knows a lot of doors were closed. Nobody wanted to touch us or talk to us or even redid manuscript. And and then the publishers for all asking for tell and I was like, that's one thing. I said to Kevin I would never do tell I would never out anybody. I would never tell the truth about anybody. 'cause I I have a career I still want to continue having my career after this book. So that was the biggest challenge for me is is the fact that I didn't want to sell my. Self out. And I wanted to keep it classy and correct. And the way it was supposed to be without hurting anybody's feeling or outing anyone because that's not it's not a good feeling. So that was the biggest thing that's why we kept the two Lee made in certain people into certain characters. So the kind of don't really get to know who they are. Yeah. You don't actually you don't never know one can't figure out who the real person people have tried to guess for a long time and they've all been wrong. The only person who have guessed correctly. He's my best friends who've known my meat for many years. Probably the real stories. They know the real story they know some of the the needy, greedy stuff in my life. So those are the only people who have actually guess who who it is. Anders. Haney brown. I've got a podcast called four things with Amy Brown where doubt doctors celebrity stylist trainers and more in every episode. We cover four different things from health beauty, mental wellness fashion, and so much more. I'm also mom who adopted two kids from Haiti. So I share my adoption story and bring the blend from my life. I'd like free to check it out. So search four things with Amy Brown on iheartradio or wherever you listen to podcasts. Payouts. Caroline hobby. Check out my podcast, get real with Caroline hobby where I sit down and talk to the wives of your favorite country artist. And each episode, I give you an inside of what is to be married to Luke Bryan Tyler Bryant of Florida, Georgia line pain Brown, Dan shea, and so many more. I'm married to country music artists myself Michael hobby of thousand horses. So it's natural for me to connect with the stories of my guest. It's honest women. Having honest talk. Listen to subscribe to get real Caroline hobby on apple podcasts on the iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcast. Okay. Let's talk about fashion a little bit. So Jack can be seen with us this season at one very Cavalieri season two you made some old fashioned statements this season. Damore the verse Achi roadway did that make it into the Palm Springs up. For sure I was so disappointed because they said it was a total like pajama party. And I walked in you guys your sweats whereas job. That's I mean. Okay. First of all to say like pajama party. I'm like you guys. Don't want me really pajamas on national television, because they're not cute, by the way. It's like an oversized teacher, you know, nothing sexy. So we did try to do casual sweats. Christopher these little bikers, but then Jack show. Full blown. And my first of all, I don't own any pajamas believe it or not. I don't actually do believe that about you. I feel like you're a sleep naked kind of person. I am just underwear. That's it. But I was like why go this is closest enough to do it. Because I thought everyone was going to be on there like fancy cute little Andre air like any race. Vardi full. Have you? Like what happened? He was in these this like verse Saatchi road. This is it was episode two. We went to Palm Springs. And then my favorite that has not aired yet is the onesie at the pool in Mexico. God I had to wear one because first of all as you do a house. I was like I need big glasses a hat and a onesie and I'll be fine. Where does where does one even find a onesie swimsuit like that? John. Shouldn't even as where you find everything else. I mean, literally fifteen dollars Amazon. Not the thing I've ever bought in my life, and nothing so what is your with you have a number one fashion philosophy because I feel like you like to make bold statements. I always say get the most expensive shoes. And you're good to go. If your shoes look good. Then no matter what you wear you're going to look good what? Okay. So shoes that's where you should drop the money. That's where I try to drop the money because fashion is one thing it's so ever changing right now specially with SaaS fashioned being so popular with everybody. So it's like, even though you could go and spend the money on ten thousand dollar jacket. The jacket is going to be gone within a month. Nobody's care anymore about it. And also now I feel like most people are shopping on the design resell websites because whatever you want a month ago will be there in in less than a couple of weeks. Right. The real real real things like that. Yeah. I was just looking on the real actually awesome. And all the Louis Vitton virgin of dual stuff is already on there. Yeah. And that stuff is so expensive a wide even. The money when you go on the real real and shop, get it for half the price at least by Bida shoes. That's going to last you at least for a good year, if not less often wear them and then paired with something he would sell it's going to work. No matter what it's funny, you say that actually just bought my first pair of Lou batons this year finally made the splur- comfortable because love lane. Kotla? So I think the trick about Krishna baton is that people don't really understand their the it's made for Italian woman. And what explanation to me was the fact that arches for Italian woman are lot shorten and arches for American woman. I didn't know for American moments, not comfortable. Well, the art. Yeah. Like, honestly usually wearing them at night because I got the heels just to pace it black. You just you just need a good pair of those. But usually, I'm having a cocktail and thank God. Because they're just not that comfortable. But for me, I'll like take it. I just feel great them while here's to rub. Some CBD on your. Ooh, that's a good idea. Like, the new rage. Everyone is putting CD oil on your on your feet. So it kind of numbs it and makes it feel even thought about that. Do you know this is going to sound so old but mine is my angles. Wobbly ankles when aware that I have to put subsidy. God it's gonna make me like losing gold falling everywhere. Fashioned is a big important. I think in our everyday life now. Yeah. Especially with Instagram. Mom, obese now says she's like Instagram makes people go to bankruptcy because they want to post something every day. And it's so true. And why and then Facebook relief wounds relationships, Mike, mom, great. But I don't think she's wrong thinks she's ri- think she's onto something air for sure. But it's just so it's hard to keep up. Everybody's always trying to keep up though. And Instagram is such a facade. I have to talk about that all the time I have Instagram business, and I still wanna say that because it's not realize no nothing is real anymore. I mean, people make sometimes I like, wait. I just saw you. But you posted something you were at the snow. Yeah. Because I was there like six months ago, I was saving it for something else. It looked better. Exactly, it just I think nowadays nothing is real. I mean, I've the fact that people are getting busted now for all the fake travel photos that they're posting or any Photoshop stuff that they're doing, but people are just obsessed. I mean, I feel like it'd be gonna let down much of Instagram fashion, take over your life. Then that sad. It is sad. But it's the world we live in. And we all try to keep up with it. I know we do buying all the stuff like your mom said she's nailing it ruining relationships on Facebook. Lovely. Okay, mom, you're onto something because she's like you'd never post the same picture or the same clothes. I make. No, I try not to right. It is too. I feel like Instagram as a library of fashion that you have in your head and the other happy like where is the rest because I remember even having. What part of the closet in? Purging is the best thing. I've learned are you like Marie con-going. I mean, I don't I love stuff. And then then that way gives you more excuse to buy stuff at least two I just started a posh Mark page. No, I don't I've just been selling half my closet. It feels so good. But then it's like, I take that check. And I'm like look. Put it on the real real. And then I soon as I get that check. Let's go shopping. I need something this this it just out adds up. It's adds up quickly. Then it's like, you know, I try to not to buy crazy stuff back in the day like colorful phone. Yeah sequence. So have some of that. I think I've seen him in some secret. But then I'm like, wait, I go I can only wear this once then. Right and drop three thousand dollars on a sequence jab bomber jacket that I could literally just never gonna wear again. No. Yeah. It's all about the basics. I will say when I sell something first. And then I buy something it feels more like recycling. So. Feel like do good for the culture. About yourself. You just give it away. I'm like, oh, it's so I'm doing something. Good for somebody. That's sure charity were. Okay. Okay. So we talked about very Cavalieri if you see this super tease, they put up. Oh, gee, I was really. This is the doping afraid I think it's up. I mean, it's going to be the most epic trip ever. Because first of all I talking about our trip to Mexico. I was thinking that we were going. I was coming to the zip-lining because I had fractured my arm. I had taken my cast out so injured it was sign of kind of was just a brace on time. And you know, I was like, okay, I'm going to get away with not like doing the zip-lining stuff. So I'm I'm down for it lets go dressed up in not appropriate zip-lining close. I wasn't a onesie. It was about once again the guys who weren't there. Like, you're writing those shoes. Oh, yes. Did you have on these? Describe them. Please. Snakeskin Hatton leather actually, Jimmy choos, very untrendy. So I was writing those for zip-lining. Yes. But when we got there was all of a sudden, we like, okay, we're going to get on this car. So I was still thinking that I'm just going on to support everyone to do what they need to do. But we've got up. There was a different story. I was like an obstacle course we had to zip line to get today. And no other way around because even the gamma guys had to line anybody cameras. So there was no way around it. So basically, we had to do what he had to do to survive the drunk got in a sympathies that they put up on the very cavalier Instagram you can hatch act screams. I just hope our moment our moment. I know the moment our moment makes it I have this weird feeling it's not going to. But it was the best moment of my zip money. -perienced the best time it was scared. Tagging Tanda on one zip line together them topping me, basically. Yeah. I got. No way. Right. Right. You liked it? Good. The trip. Remember, everyone's like, what's your favorite part of the the zip-lining appearance of both of us are like the tandem. Favorite part? Otherwise, I was screaming like a little bite Banji girl. The whole time scream is the funniest thing. I've ever heard on the super tease, you could see it too. Just like oh God. I I'm gonna literally be mortified watching this. But also my face in. Chris is talking about her clogs nipple, ducks situation is priceless. Mexico's not a little wild. Yes. That's a good way to put it. I think we had a really good time Mexico. I'll ask my squid. Well, squid. Oh, cage the dancing case God, it was interesting and Stephanie what happens in Kabo stays in Kabo except when there's a camera crew except ends up on the e. On national television. So you can tune into that this season, very leery. We have we go to Kabo. Oh my God. I can't wait for that. What? Okay. Where else can people find you because I know blind Adam is on Amazon, Amazon Barnes and nobles and some bookstores around near you, so blind item and guilty out. Now, so blind. Sublime out of his first books if you're gonna read it for blind item first, and then read guilty, pleasure because guilty pleasure to continuation of blind item. Yeah. And then you are on Instagram at Jack Ketso. Yes. Jack Kemp catching I C K K H. Oh, look at that spelling fast you've done that before then times. And then let's talk about you have this t shirt company. We were talking about before. So berm squad me, and my best friend started a t shirt company, just fun fun. Parody t shirt on what's happening now. Just let us sayings and and fun stuff little sayings like Dunn's. Oh that Kristen have done. So we have who we have a t shirt that says bias be and that's why be used to bitch. Stupid bitch Peres in the bottom of it. So it's kind of in the logo of Weiser. Okay. That's cues. Just a fun. Let something on the side to get creative and can continue being creative on PR's creative. So you as I think it just keeps the creativity juice going in me, what is berm squad berm squad actually start off when me and my friends used to stay when we remember we saw really hot guy. We used to say berm that you call like the E R R M call them bums because there was a code name of saying hot guys coming. Okay. Then just just became a thing. And then one day we were saying berm and this girl was like Burma. Why are you guys saying burn? We're like well because we call hot guys berm. She was like have you ever go? Google berm means the urban dictionary. Not really what is it? We did. And it was called. It was a hot sperm. Wow. What scenario the website called the hot sperm squad. Basically curves. Exactly the Hudson squat. Exactly to that. I mean, I was just like, you know, it's just cute go codename. But and then I think what kind of hit it on the head when Cardi B called Bano berm. Okay. We've made it burn on Cardi BC Kalbarri. I called Bano a love yours Grammys, the Bano Lefter note that he would Bano as berm. I was like. Wow this. I mean bottom is a berm though, the berm he's hot. Wow. This is like a new I'm totally use code name. If you want steam when you see a guy was hanging out with your girlfriends, you just say. I'm coming over Param coming your way, and nobody ever knows. It's funny because sometimes we'll do it at out and about airport or somewhere we are. But I. Make a crazy sound about it and people, you know, what is just get confused. So it sounds like you're saying Perm, so they're probably just like, wait. Somebody got a Perm arm. I know I'm gonna get this question. Eight hundred times I'm just going to ask you just as in summary. I know people are going to be like if I'm interested in PR. How do I get into this? Okay. First of all, I would say don't go to school. Great. Here on the podcast kidding. I mean, here's the problem. What school is? I think I was being taught in school. And then what I end up using in my life in general, not the same thing that you ever think it is. It is completely the opposite of what we were being taught to go into into the four the PR. It's completely different. I want to say you have to be dick skin and tough. You can't cry out the job, you know, you are going to get yelled at screamed ad, you know, you're going to be your fault. All the time. Everything is my fault pretty much like it's my fault. You know, you have to remember that. And if you really really want it, then you would be successful at it. But if you kind of half assing, it you're never going to be successful on it, you know, and some people sometimes come in. And they try out I've had assistant who have came in and tried out. And it's just like it's not for them, and you will know right away. If it's for you or not then you could make the decision what you wanna do. But it's not the most. Easiest job in the whole world. Because you are stressed out every day. There's a lot of responsibility that comes into fact, you are basically handling someone schedule you handling someone's career. And if you make a mistake, and if you got say, you'll f- up your it's your ass on the line. So it's a very much also attention to detail job have to be on it. You have to fact check everything you have to make sure that. Airline is booked. You'll be surprised sometimes you had that things that are not booked. So just a lot of a lot of that. And I always say like sometimes I feel like I'm babysitting. Grownups you are in in a way. But it is it is that. So if you really love if you really love celebrities, and I think you've really love entertainment than you'll be great at it. But if you are just going into it to be hanging out with celebrities, which a lot that's what ends up happening. We end up having people who are coming into. Sign up to be an intern or sign up to be to be an assistant. And then you find out that they wanna hang out with the certain, and they wanna be seen that wanna go out of night and party and around celebrities apart that's not gonna work because it's just not what the job is. And it's not really you're not in the right state of mind, and you're not really heading into the right direction, especially at the beginning. Because I deal with that a lot too like assistance that I'll come in. They just wanna be around the scene or what I'm doing now. And I'm like, you're not looking at what I was doing fifteen years ago, which is where you are. I was bringing my bosses coffee and making sure paper was on the debt on hurt and his desk at a certain time. Because if I did, and I was in trouble, right? You gotta do the work. I. You pay your news. You always get rewarded. You would always get ahead of your, you know, yourself in your job, or whatever it is you doing you got to pay to do. None of us, you know, came in. And all of a sudden was not handed to us. Now, it's not like that. Now, we all worked up to where we are now. So, but that's really good nowadays. I think a lot of there's a lot of people who feel entitled also a lot of people who are in the generation of Instagram who think they're famous on Instagram just because you have a public figure on your Instagram. Let me tell you that you're not famous and no one I want cares. I don't care how many followers you have if you were going to step into my office to working to work. I'm not trading you on any defendant, the Lassen or the last person or whoever it is. You're gonna have to put your work it. I don't care if you have a million followers, you're still going to have to put the work in. So it just you gotta be passionate about PR because it's not your typical. Thing gotta be and you have to be people's Burson. If someone is not people's person. Then you're it's not the right business. No, no, not all. Well, I think that's really good advice. I think that's pretty much that can go for anything in the entertainment industry. Agree agree. You know? You know, the certain person did not start off as an agent they start off at the mail room. So they were delivering someone's may. So you have to keep that in mind. Exactly, jack. Thank you so much for having me you guys check Jack out on very leery this season season two and on Instagram at Jack Khetso, berm squatting. Thanks for listening. Hey, Caroline hobby. My podcast get real with Caroline hobby. Just launched on the Nashville podcast network each week. I sit down with the wives of the biggest artists in country music like Caroline, Brian. Haley Hubbard Caitlyn Brown in so many more. I'm married to country music artists myself Michael hobby of thousand horses. So it's so easy to relate and get solar soul in our interviews. I also sit down with female, entrepreneurs influencers and fascinating women who are making waves. It's honest women having honest talk listening subscribe to get real with Caroline hobby on apple podcasts on the I heart radio app or get your podcast.

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RHOBH: Until We Leave Again With RHONYs Martini Mike Part 2

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RHOBH: Until We Leave Again With RHONYs Martini Mike Part 2

"It's. China off. Go. May for you are listening to the entertain podcast. Thank you so much for tuning in to part two of my interview with Martini Mike from the real housewives of New, York. In addition to being a reality TV star icon. Mike is also a Bravo Hollick so talking about Bravo was so much fun. He gave his styling expertise on Sutton and teddy. We chatted about how kyle is best with her sister. Kim Richards the brilliant. Ask Clapping See. In his ass and our hopes for the future of the franchise. You don't WanNa. Miss it here, you go. I love the scene of lease arena running between the gossip lake. She chased denise and Erin how trying to get her to talk and then era the denise in Aaron, drop the bomb honor that we're going for stakes in a strip club. I didn't understand that. I mean. Is that like A. It strict clips here in Vegas like Berridge, strip clubs for having good food. And I'm just like that doesn't mean I'm going to go eat there. Here, there is like one place that has. Strippers and the E and they're open. During Kobe they are now open serving dinner outside, and the ladies are not stripping, but they are serving so. You at least get something. But it's like who's going to go to a strip club in. Sit in the parking lot and get served by strippers, but I guess they're doing well, so it's up somebody's alley. I don't understand a lot of things in this world, and that's one of them like people like early refusing to eat out of fruit trots, but unlike you'll go, eat at a strip club lately gets out of a truck in a Mike. No, but some ladies dancing doing our work on our. frigging table OH, yeah! That is way too adding comfort. We saw these arena run, which was just the funniest thing in the outfit. It was a look. What besides gossip? What three things do you think would make lease arena? Run that fast besides up I? Think another line four Hsen QVC I think. God. To get away from Kim. Richards! And? I think. Some free. Bo Talks I. Think those would be the three things that she would run that at or. Very good answers I like that. What are your feelings on Oursel- are one of our newest wipes. She's really sweet and I'm sad that. I. Feel like she's not getting the proper. Height here on the show I feel like. She's not getting a lot of screen time or something like I'm not seeing a lot of her. I think she could bring a lot to the table. She has two kids. Her husband had an affair with a younger woman and they're married and she still has a relationship with the guy so I think she could really have a good story line. They just need to include her and I'm almost thinking now. They're going to start turning into it by. Everybody saying well Kyle is the new Lisa and Kyle doesn't like new girls and I'm just hoping that it doesn't turn into a race thing I'm really scared that it's I. Don't know what's GonNa. Happen for the rest of the season, but I really hope that it's not because I think than Bravo would be done because we'll housewives of new. York sucks and. If that turns that way. I might. I might not be watching. How signs anymore knows I have well. It's funny. You say that I've been just really changing a lot in these last few months just. All the things that I've celebrated over the years of housewives all the reasons I've loved. It is just the lack of just reality that these women have the excess of their lives not. Not only not understand that you're not being able to relate to how most of us live, but to be so incredibly blind to it is honestly Kinda gross right now like I'm watching things and I'm like this is kind of tough to watch, so then we think about it in terms of race in. I never thought about these things just as like basic white girl. He's things. Sadly didn't go through my mind at. Bravo's segregated with the exception of like a couple of shows where they have mixed. Housewife's webster segregated. There are like the quote unquote white shows the quote, unquote black shows and action of DC I think that's a will in there. That's yeah, that's it. It's just they need to do better. I don't even know how to follow up that I agree. I agree. It's bizarre that it's like wow, I think is a nation. Oprah changing like I hope. We're doing better and being more open minded in listening more. When Gazelle realized when they were in that jerk that Ted thing. and. She realized that it was just hurting into alleged trash denise session. She got up and left. Are you me in the sense that that makes a great friend, but maybe not a great housewife. I yeah. I think she doesn't understand what needs to be done. I think. It's almost like a lease. It from New York. I don't think she's fully grasping like you. Either cutthroats or you're getting your throat cut and. If it's. You know if you're getting your throat caught than you might not be on next season. Bright? Again with the way, things are changing our think. Audiences might be more drawn to that Elise and Garcia, type moving forward because it's being responsible and good people, whereas lake. A lovely Serena by the way she's been targeting Denise, her friend of twenty years, and literally just starting these fires, certainly TV. It makes her great housewife, but it makes you really shitty friend. which is sad because like when you think about it? Aren't? These ladies have known each other for. A Long. I mean. Besides the new ones. I think people are running out of dramas to have so it's like. You know. What else can we do in? It's almost getting like boring like that's why that's why I was like I need a copy and barring exactly exactly I feel like just the formula of Beverly Hills this year. Just hell. Every episode ends with a Dinner Party. That goes sour. They're like all the drama. That should be like Hash our at events. It's like they save it off. These tables a seriously not another one. A No go to go and go do something else like go. I don't know sub having dinner. Parties at your house and go out to a restaurant and someone like. You know throw a play and have like a random weight or get you know. Water thrown on them or something like. Gosh, it gives us what we want. This is what we want. We make no secret efforts. Or like show, Erica, Jane, like spending a boatload of money, you know like something something entertaining. That's exactly what I wanted to see. All the vicarious spending that I can't do right now off. What do you think of Sutton store? I think it's really cute, so I follow it on instagram. I want people to follow her story because I think I have more followers than her store does so that's not good, Ma! She'd some cute stuff, but the price it's very beverly hills like all or custom, unique things and I myself might have to wait a while to buy something nice. Races I was like Oh like three thousand dollars for some candlestick or something I was like. Gosh Even Bacharach is that expensive? It's like. Who is this? What is going on like? Why is it so expensive? Crazy, how do you think What do you think of? The way threatened dresses, so I'm a fan. I think. Some. Okay, let me rephrase it. I am a fan when she's wearing something that fits her. Did you see when she had that? Little House tour. On Bravo like they do. The house tours notifies, and she was in that white sheer top. I was horrible. That did not fit her. It was not a good look. I've said it wants and I'll say it again if you're woman that has a larger chests you need to either have a v neck style, or if you're going to do a higher neck, you need to have darts. Put in where the bust is because you need as much room as you can get, if got big puppies and. That top was just. Not Good. It didn't fit her. It was too small. It's just. But everything else I love I think she takes risks and she doesn't shed right did what did you think about the dull chain Cabana? Pink thing love it. I. Didn't that dress I think it was a top like share thing with like a bra underneath maybe looking it up now. Very important in really because like I didn't love that one and like I think it's kind of obnoxious. When rich people are like I'm just wearing had to tell a designer and just like in. That's all good like you still need I mean there's somebody who needs help like Britney. Spears that would be a great starting place, but for somebody likes you. I think does have good style like I think for me personally. I'd rather see some like mixed and matched pieces, shows of creativity there rather than just being like it's designer that means it's great now. Would it? What was that on Brownie? Even Louis Vuitton Mix steaks. Yes, I I. Know Lou and Sub Pat to Alex. This? Yeah Oracle. Horrible doesn't look like she's little Bo peep looking for her sheep or what? It looks like something Tinsley would wear but Kinsley would wear it ten times better. That's the thing that it would look adorable on. Tinsley, yes, I think there's an age and a body style for something like that and I am all for like a nice bow tied around your neck, but You might be a little old for that and your body again. Not Body Shaming I love. People love everybody but. Just not for you not. By stri. Yeah and the whole dropping names for labels like. If I had money like she does. I would have I would be going to like a Taylor and having custom clothes made like I wouldn't be going to change Obama and getting things off of their runway. I'd be going to change Obama, and I'd be saying I want this fabric from this year, and this is what I wanted him and I. Don't want anything that anyone else in the world has because. If, it's on the runway. People can make fakes of it. You can. You can make those close so no. I want something A. Only the best, only the best real. Lamont! In her closet. Rhode Island Mike. Are you guys like more la where you guys have a lot of space just like living, or is it like New York where you just don't have as much lake space per human. There's definitely more space here. And I think in certain areas there. Are you know it's like bigger space? Race. I think by like the coast like southern Rhode Island, that includes like Newport county, and like where I grew up where I'm living now there's definitely. A lot more space lot more land and I think dery could actually like. Do a really cool closet, but. Whoever that woman that she has designing it. Like was on show like she had a design like she was in Chris Generous Closet. Allow and I'm really surprised that she's allowing that to happen because it is like Shitty it is. No. I think she could do something totally different. If I had a lot of expendable cash. Be Busting out and I'd be cooking in Teresa. Romer closet in my house. You know like five thousand square feet or a however big it is. You, know what I would want. I would want share from clueless to remember. where it rotated and you got to mix and match things like. Like a cleaners! Why don't we have that twenty twenty? Let's step are shut up. You find it a little off putting their two things that just in our society today that didn't sit well for me, and maybe I'm just being very sensitive debris, saying that it was quote essential to be able to fit all of her bags and Oliver Shoes I'm thinking like in the light in the world we are right now with people struggling to get groceries struggling to get toilet paper and things like that like. Are we really talking about three three hundred shoot pair of shoes being essential. Yeah I. Think I I will say I think if this if it aired at a different time. Might be taking different we. I think we still be saying. She's ridiculous, but it is like. ooh, bad time Bravo. You're really putting her. And they just they just took time off a month. Why didn't they cut that scene out or even just cut that lakes like that was really weird and the other thing that was a bravo. Where didn't you take this out? It looks ridiculous. Was Kyle thinking? She was going to get pulled over and the way she mall now it's like grow I know you've got anxiety, but. Even before George Floyd like I mean the black lives matter, movement has been around forever and it is. Secret that black people have. More difficult situation getting pulled over by the police then to white to rich beautiful white women have that are having black g wagon in beverly, hills, back. was like ill tacky, but that was just like ill. Are you really saying that that just really rubbed me the wrong way? Yeah I think. It missed. Their step was missed and tumble was taken with that. Tumble was taken to say the least there. That was a real mess. What are your thoughts on Kyle this season? I was always a big fan of Kyle I mean I always thought she was cool like she would have fine, and she didn't like the drama too much, but I think towards the end of last season was last season the last one with Lisa Bandra pump. So I think that whole drama really changed how she portrayed herself on TV. I think she's trying to now be the Queen Bee and it's not working for her. It is not. A good luck I think. Again, another step was missed and. Now not she's not good. I'm not thrilled with it I'm not thrilled with beverly. Hills at all like I'm waiting for Erica Jane like some drama to happen, and nothing's going on there, I'm waiting for. I lean to come and do something you know I think if she came back on something interesting. What happen, but? You know. But instead we're getting brandy for the rest of the season. It's like Oh, I know he's just so gross like yes, I love the drama. Yes, they can't wait to see how this whole affair played out, but I think she's a really gross person. Yeah, no and I. Guess a picture of her was floating around of before and after, and she looks like a totally different person weird. Face looks very like she looks like. She got stung by a bunch of bees and she's. Inflated Everywhere Yamanaka No. I. I don't understand Lake. It's so funny because I love George Michael One of my favorite songs in videos of all time is freedom and I'll just go on George. Michael binges on Youtube and I was watching the freedom video, and it's all the models the Naomi Campbell. You know Cindy Crawford it's amazing, and you think of like what beauty was in the mid nineties. That was Claudia Schiffer. Dad was. Beauty was and now you see like what beauty is at. It's just so. It's like so more like we don't even look like human beings anymore. Now and I think beauty is something where. You could be like a really attractive like standard attractive person, but I think with your attitude if you are bitchy or hockey or not at all. I think you're attractive. Level goes right down, and I think some of these women that are trying like with the face lifts, and the vote talks and the anti-ageing, yet you can try and look as pretty in quotes as you want, but your attitude sucks. You'RE GONNA look as soon. You're going to be uglier than the hunchback of Notre Dom. THAT POOR DUDE! Like Dakhli. Oh, so true. It's absolutely true. I'm with you on Kyle Lake I've always liked her. I've never loved her. She's always been okay to me this season. She's rubbing me the wrong way and. After say I liked her more this episode with her sister. Than I have any other time I think kyle is at her best with Kim. Yes it. I don't know if something about just being sibling. This is the dynamic that works for her watching her with Kim and going back, and like listening to the story of Kim, suffering with cancer, and especially after their mom. Like, that was riveting. That's the best television Kyle's. Long Time. Yes, yeah, I agree with that I think can needs to come into play more often I think Kim is one of those people that will cause some drama and I think it'll be interesting drama. Minute tell me what are the best moments in housewife history for me? Personally was at the Beverly Hills reunion when she re gifted. The Blue Bunny back to Lisa. And Lisa ride the single tier. That's a Kademi award winning right there. That was, and that's still thing like if that came if if they re do that like. You Know Kim comes around Lisa's like I'm still pissed at you about the bunny. I think it could go somewhere, I think. I'd like to see it. It would be something interesting at least. Still again, just Kyle Kim being their best that limo seen the. You stole my God damn. House. About Amazing Television right there. Yeah, that was good. One of my favorite scenes, actually the whole season, and it wasn't like a big dramas, and I just thought it was so funny I love theater, so listening to Renna and Erica talk about Chicago in the role of Roxie was amazing. The fact that we were listening to Lisa Arenas asks clap as it was now. All Ted was like Mrs. Perfect this is exactly what I want in my reality, TV is. Seen deadly just strikes you as great TV, or is that just kind of like a people considering that a throwaway scene and like no, it's brilliant. Where are you on that? Yeah I. Think more things like that need to happen like when Kim went to go, see if she needed like her blue thing like that was great. You know watching Kyle like Kirk. Trying not I don't know. She was disgusted or she was trying not to laugh, but either way I was like great. That's like that's what I wanted to see. I WanNa see like you know I want I. Want Lisa Wren to go into a store and forget that she has her depends on, and it's like I need. I need to wear the I need somebody. Give me a song or something like I. Want that that. The IT, it doesn't have to all be drama like that's not necessarily what I'm in for Insurance Fun, and is part of it, but I need those funds silly time like even just Lisa Reynaud when she was at Sutton Storm. Put The ball gown on. On the streets strutting their stuff in, it was just perfect. It was just fun. Exactly more that needs to happen less dinner parties more of that. I would love. I'm so we'll. You're so close Have you ever gotten to see one of the housewives on Broadway? Several of them have made appearances over the years. Now Chicago would have been great like Ca Jane just is like made for that part so I was listening to Erica Jane in high school so like when she had an album. Like when she was doing like offer, Dance Hits Great I. I knew of her, and she had one hit called stars. I area Jane Moto Blanco Remix is one of the. Songs that I've ever heard and I listen to it at the gym I listen to One I. WanNa get on Dub. I listened to it. Why clean like you have to listen to it? It's like it's perfect. Her and I didn't even know it was her. Until like two seasons of herself being in and I was like wait. That's the same girl that plays the song that I love, and it's so. It's like now. All these guys are like. Yeah, we. We Love Erika. We've been watching her since day. One and I knew about her high school sweetheart. Wa- it that's so funny. I actually got to see her. Perform in concert on how that show. She was great. It was unfortunate the venue she was in. They put her in an arena. And she that was the most uncomfortable thing she was in an arena and maybe lead. Two hundred people were there. It was very odd, so, but she was greatly if they would've put it on any bar or small venue, that would have been a size. It was. Exactly like a club that they put her in new arena knows what hell is happening here. Matt Good No, not all I had fun, but it was not great for her. She had more people like in her styling team and backup dancers, and it felt like that were in the audience. That's all it was. It was pretty crushing. So Camille grammer. tweeted something the other day and I WANNA know if you agree with it. She said that Camille grammer said that Erica. Self promotes too much on the show. Do agree with that. I. Don't I. Think these women they're. Just trying to make as much money as they can, and I think that'd be the doing the same thing as Erica and I think I would do the sam