20 Episode results for "Eric Stokes"

D3 Plus Episode 15

Get ALod Of This Guy

40:29 min | 6 months ago

D3 Plus Episode 15

"Anger fm is a free app and service that allows everyday people to start their very own. Podcast they offer tips tricks into toilets to help. Launch your podcasts. And get it. Running anchor also distributes your pockets for you and brings all the sponsorships to you. How awesome they also include free and easy to use monetization methods. An easy to use recordings the best part of all. It's all free. Do you think you have what it takes to start your own. Podcast download anchor. Fm today and get started right now. Good morning and happy. Friday sports fans men. It feels great to be back in the studio. We've been awesome show for you today. We'll be talking about delays headline sports recapping. Nfl draft first round and we may even be joined by special guest so as always thanks for listening. And let's get this thing rolling. Well everyone thanks for tuning into the show and we are joined by various special guests a teammate. Dear friend evan. Latino evan welcome off thank you for having me so blessing to come on the show with you some guests before rounding you've ever been up here in the studio before it all. I have not okay. I learned recently. This studio existed very nice. Well quick interview. Evan where are you. From what year in school you study while i am from the lovely gurnee illinois which is a short drive from where mr loading is from monday line. I'm a sophomore here. Concordia in i am studying. Secondary education broad field social cise and a minor nath let coaching he. So i take it you. Route is high school history teacher and lacrosse coach football coach. All yeah i. I think i could. Coach football played since freshman year of high school. But i i know. I know my way round the field. Okay okay evan. What brought you to in all honesty. I think a big thing was the lacrosse team. I mean good team. Good history also. The education program here is great. I mean they put you in the classroom your first year that you're here's really see if you like the education field every other places. Look they're like yeah. We'll put you in the classroom like your junior year. And i'm like if i get to that point out of one teacher. I'm kind of out of luck. So h h you. And i didn't know that the more you know my education teacher didn't even tell me so all right. Let's get into it so last night was round one of the twenty twenty one. Nfl draft as always. They booed roger goodell. It's the tradition. I don't know why they do it. But it's kind of funny. So let's take a look at that draft board from last night. No surprise at number one. Trevor lawrence clemson quarterback owes number one overall to the jacksonville jaguars. He stands at six foot. Six this came as no surprise to anyone. Second of the draft. Zach wilson quarterback. That'd be why you goes to the jets. This came as little surprise me at number three. The san francisco forty niners take trae. Lance kyle pits goes number four overall to the atlanta falcons the highest drafted tight end ever tamar chase drafted v over our review reunites with joe burrow in cincinnati. Jalen waddell reunites with two in miami. Then the first alignment off the board. At number seventy seven was pennisula to the detroit. Lions number eight. Jc horn drafted by the carolina. Panthers number nine patrick certaines. After by the broncos men their secondary might be lethal him in kyle fuller a number ten to round of the top. Ten devante smith goes to the philadelphia. Eagles reunites with jalen hurts at number eleven a surprise in the draft chicago bears trading from twenty. They take quarterback out of ohio state. Justin fields couldn't be more excited for the bears number twelve. The dallas cowboys traded up and gone. Mike parsons their tnr. Sean slater tackle out of north west into the chargers. Fourteen the jets with a second pick in the first on it. Take lavar tucker offense guard from usc. Build ballot check may have gotten his men at fifteen mac jones to the patriots number sixteen. This is what i think is the biggest deal of the draft will come back to it. The arizona cardinals take zaven collins out of tulsa. He's an outside linebacker number. Seventeen alex weatherford to the raiders. Jan fields eighteen to miami. So miami the end staying in miami kind of cool. Nineteen jamie davis to the washington football team from this cargo. Bears at number twenty. The giants. Take qadir's tony wide. Receiver out of florida. The colts take quits. Pay twenty one. Twenty two is caleb farley cornell virginia tech to the titans on a trade the vikings at twenty three take christian dare saw tackle out of virginia tech at number twenty four which i think is one of the best picks and the only one that got right in the mock draft was in harry going number twenty four to the steelers then the jaguars making a trade in back in the first one again they take a pair of clemson teammates drafted chavez etienne running back from clemson northwestern cornerback newsom goes to the browns rishaad bateman wide receiver goes to the reasons saints. Take pain tucker twenty eight another disappointing draft for the packers. They take cornerback. Eric stokes to georgia at number twenty nine the bills. Take gregory russo. Miami defensive end at thirty one the ravens get back in the first round. They take jason alway an outside linebacker out of penn state and to round everything out the super bowl champs the tampa bay buccaneers. Take joe tyronn outside linebacker out of washington at thirty two so there you have it all action from the first round in last night's nfl draft. Evan the biggest surprise you maybe even the biggest steal are no. I'm going to sound bias here. But the bears trading up. I mean that. I was refreshing twitter when i heard the news of it really caught me off guard when they turn. It feels like all right. They're going to stay at twenty. I thought they were gonna draft personally. No linemen because the bears aligned is kind of trash. We but i need for the bear. Yeah but for fields too. I dropped that low mobile quarterback that has proven that he can be successful to the bears. I mean i say my hopes up. But there i was smiling last night. Yeah i actually got up to grab some food. After devante smith was draft in. My friends started freaking out. He's like hey get back in your back in the bears on the clock. I'm like what do you mean. It's only the eleventh pick. Then he's like yeah. They traded up. They swapped with the giants The only thing. I think is fantastic. Pick but there's a lot of pressure on justin fields now not only was the only black quarterback draft about chicago bears. He'll be the first black quarterback in bears history which is crazy but yes. He is very successful career at ohio. State this mankin. He can probably though seventy yards flat footed. He's got a cannon. He's mobile like you said so. maggie's offense with read option bootleg. Like he might fit right in and you know he's a passer came as little surprise again like we needed a corner. Because we gave a kyle fuller needed to know linemen because alliance kinda shaky here and there but you know. A quarterback is the biggest sin forced. It's always important and this is a big talk since what was it. Twenty sixteen draft where he took twenty seventeen draft. Where he i mean. Hey i mean very aggressive move jumped up. Nine spots took a elite level quarterback the only thing i think they bears the bears gave up too much. They gave up a fourth round in this draft and they give up a first and fourth next year. I don't even think they gave up that much in two thousand seventeen when they traded spots at the forty niners at two and three. I think we gave up like one pick. I thought i. I thought we gave up. Like two or three picks in the two thousand seventeen draft to the forty niners when we trade twenty seventeen draft was just a debacle for the bears. Yeah it's it's whatever. But i mean yes we move on. I feel like we did give up a lot though like a first round in next year. Maybe i i understand like pick in next year's like a first round next year so i i don't know but a very aggressive move by. The bears came surprise we got our guy is probably talk of the draft right now especially after trading. For andy dalton. I thought like the bears are going to be set. So this kind of pick of justin fields surprise me because we brought in eighty dalton. They told me he's going to be the starter and then bringing this young guy. Don't know if they play on like him mentoring him for a year or two. Or if it's going to be the same thing as trubisky like have the veteran quarterback in there but start the young guy. Yeah that yeah. But see andy dalton. Nick foles donny. Yeah they're on their latter half of their ears both in their thirties. So hey maybe we one starter but then by week four. We see fields and see how he does. You know. i'm excited. Yeah i am too. I hopefully wishing him success. It'd be great for the bears. Maybe not super bowl teams yet. But hey maybe we take the nfc north with the packers the packers until we talk about the bears and like chicago teams having bad drafts the packers. I don't know what goes through their heads. But i do know that the ravens stole their guy. 'cause the packers were gonna get out your seat. You're gonna take bateman but bateman went twenty seven to the ravens last-second second scramble and they take a corner. Because maybe because i mean they lost that. Nfc championship game. All because kevin king. So maybe they find their guy out of georgia. Eric stokes good secondary but i. I've seen a lot of things a pet especially yesterday about the whole. Aaron rodgers wants to leave because of. He's not happy awesome. Hits this morning then we gets a lot about. His contract is not happy about. I can imagine he's not happy after the draft is wall not giving them more weapons to throw to except for davante adams. Yes see that that is the argument like they have davante adams arguably the number one wide. Receiver the nfl. If if not one top three top five. Five key scored the most amount of touchdowns. Last year's they have aaron jones. They have aj dylan like it's not like they don't have weapons robert tanya and really came on this year but i mean who's your number two vendors vandross candling. Yeah i'm i mean. He's probably as good as to vaughan williams. So so yeah. He's there number two but yeah they were looking for that true number two wide receiver that like. Hey maybe davante. Adams isn't double teamed in the red zone anymore. Maybe we can get aaron jones out of the backfield because they're not going man to man on him you know 'cause they gotta go amendment someone else so i don't know but i remember them really pursuing bateman but the ravens got him so now the ravens bateman in hollywood brown for lamar jackson throw to good looks jackson. The scary offense would just lamar jackson. And hey dobbins yeah. He is my biggest surprise. Actually know you're gonna stick on quarterback here mack jones at fifteen. That was kind of the story. First half of this draft because they kept cutting to him and kept cutting and he's just like sitting there like just just like what am i going to get picked you know. And it's kinda surprising that he fell to fifteen like like okay. I guess the jets got their quarterback. The chargers already have a quarterback. I mean the bears got their guy. The eagles have jalen hurts Cowboys have dak prescott. So i mean after looking at it. It's not a surprise fell to fifteen. But i mean is mick jones the next time. That's that's a terrifying thought. To think of. It is no one belt. You can do with quarterbacks. I mean you guys the god and football. But i know matt mack. Jones doesn't really scream like a great quarterback. I mean he plays either go on brady. That's tom brady. Was split and reps at michigan. Play like half a game in an another outcome and play the other half of the game. Okay i feel like tom. Brady is like a one in a million desperate. That's very drafted like one ninety nine overall so this. This is a little different story. You know this man just wanna. National championship drafted fifteenth in the first round. I mean it could be. But i mean you know. The pictures of their body type definitely radiates the same energy like i could. It be predictor in the future. Know like it's a terrifying to think about. Tom brady after tom brady. Still in the nfl. Yeah wild and but bill belichick did come out this morning and say that cam is our guy right now now see. I also saying how good is mack jones. Really because you think about the weapons he had at alabama not only did he have a top three nnaji harris who dual threat running back. They have the heisman winner and davante smith. They have jalen waddell. Who yes i know is injured but he played in that championship game. He played the beginning of the season. Like just how good really is mack jones. And then of course alabama's defense all five star recruits. It's like no wonder they're great. So is mac jones really that good. I mean it should be interesting. I i believe the patriots added some guys some threats to their offenses off season. Didn't they. I know the goes no. You're right yeah they did. They picked up two tight ends and wide receiver. So despite julian edelman retiring like they still have good running backs and they just pick up some weapons your rights so i mean who knows he might be able to do something he might be down and out guy. I don't know i feel like him. And cam newton or kind of on the opposite end of the spectrum for quarterback. Matt jones does not seem like an athletic quarterback not very mobile while cam. Newton is a running machine like run he capacity and do everything. So i don't really know how we're gonna fit into the patriots offense. I don't know if mack jones going to get any reps this year because a cam newton. Because i think they started tailoring their offense to cam newton's kind of mobile play last year. And if you throw mag jones in their guy. That's not that mobile. How are they gonna do. Yeah very true and mack jones like you said he's not very mobile more pocket passer. Good arm accurate guy. Is he more of that system. Build because cam newton like if he gets in trouble. You know the man's going to take off. He's going to make a play like hard to bring down. He's oh god hey they give a free blitzer. Maybe that pulitzer doesn't tackle him. He gets out of. It makes play out of it. You know so. Can mack jones. Do that we don't know will find out. It's hard to tell the biggest deal in this draft. I think he's at sixteen was avon cons. This guy out at tulsa. When his name was read i was like. Who is this guy. But then like you check out. His highlights meant six four to sixty huge linebacker. But i saw this man. He had like a ninety. Five yard. interception return touchdown. He can move like he might be the steal of this draft and the cardinals like you talking about their offense so many weapons their defense. They're kind of building. They got booed abakar young safety. They draft isaiah simmons last year. Clemson now they add this counts guy and they have arguably two of the greatest pass rushers of all time. Jj watt and chandler jones. Now like that. This cardinals team might be scary when so many thought. There's offseason was a big off season for a lot of teams. Yeah i completely forgot. I escaped my mind that. Jj watt was on the cardinals. Yeah and they signed. Aj green day resigned. Larry fitzgerald they have big time running backs. If not they draft you andre hopkins to. Yeah of course get back. I yeah. I wasn't forgetting i'm just just say another scary team. The browns thought about this one this morning. So the browns drafted greg newsom that corner out of northwestern at twenty six. You talk about their secondary already. Denzel ward greedy williams. You talk about their their d. Line with myles garrett and all the other three pieces up there they have good young linebackers and offense out of all. They got a two headed monster. They got baker mayfield. Lovie j jarvis landry a solid tight end like this browns teams scary man. They made the playoffs for the first time last year. In the last two decades no browns team might be scary. I remember watching the browns last year. And like i'm a bears fan till i die but i was root for all the way. They were beaten down on pittsburgh. Goals like do it. I want them to beat the chiefs. So bad like this team is not like good. They just added a a great corner. This secondary. they're upfront. You're going to be terrifying this year. They are men so cardinals and browns on the come up I might say the afc north might be probably one of the most competitive divisions this year. Oh by far yeah. It's by far and now the nfc west looks even more competitive now at the cardinals like adding onto them. So you got seahawks rams forty niners and the cardinals now like all. Those teams have playoff potential. It's going to be on your it is it. Is the nfc north along with afc. North arguably the toughest divisions depending on what happened at the packers may the bears of the front runners. I don't know. I don't know like the vikings. The vikings took a tackle. Okay i guess. Protect her cousins. But i mean for them. Oh i guess they had a few guys opt out on defense last year. Because i've defense isn't the same but so like so they get those guys back. Maybe this year there's added a tackle. I mean he's got dalvin cook. They got justin jefferson. The vikings that goodman the lions just drafted who what some people are calling the like version or hall of famer like this man is penny sow sewell. Out of oregon. They like some people calling him. Like they've i your hall of famer. So they just get jared goff they a hall of famer potential player in suhl. I mean not saying the lines are good or anything but like hey like that. Just makes it oh. They lost their best receivers to down the line yet. Kenny golladay i think they have one of the best living marvin jones ones out to. Yeah swifty. accident is good guys good. Yeah so. I don't know maybe the nfc north looking even more competitive. Gosh yeah crazy Another surprise draft the amount of players drafted who opted out last year. These guys surprise guys haven't played in a year and like i think four of the top ten picks where guys who didn't play last year so didn't play last year to march sat out I think feel like for certaines. ls year. i'm not sure about that one. Well there's at least like three guys in the top ten who sat lsu and other top ten picks is crazy and then like you let you get just outside the top ten year. Mike parsons rashawn. Slater the guy from usc they all opted out. These are top fifteen picks like they all opted out. It's kind of crazy to me. I mean i feel like draft boards like an teams have guys picked out like that on the line that they have their eyes on. So i would imagine like teams got guys picked out that they think are going to be in the draft next year and the year after that so i imagine when like kobe happening guys opting out imagined teams already had a lot of these guys on their boards on their guys to watch. And how good you have to be to be a fair share first-round pick without playing. Now that's crazy so yeah douses surprised me. Oh let's take a look at the number three overall pick trae lance is came as far as this man is great. This man can ball again. He didn't play last year because the fcs actually played in the spring much like a lot of d. Three did so he didn't play just to prepare for the draft so he only he's twenty two as a starter took over for carson wentz in north dakota state so i manage proven. He can win. He's got nfl talent. But the forty niners literally banked on jimmy g. And george kittle is like jimmy. T's my guy. Like george kittle has kind of big say on the forty niners like him in their head coach really close so i don't know that was kind of surprised that they take a quarterback who listen to smart. I was listening to the pat. Mcafee show this morning. And i mean they were saying like they weren't surprised that trey lines was taken at three. I mean jimmy van hurt to the past three years. that's so ads. Fair jimmy also getting up there in age. I believe he's nearing thirty. Yeah thirty one. K spent three years in new england. Now he's at three or four year. Forty niners i mean quarterbacks. Usually the position that lasts the longest in the league. But i don't know jimmy beyond the down and out but trae lance that that do could slowing it very chew. Paint you well. This had a lot is only the third time in common draft area that quarterbacks went one two three kyle pits was the highest ever drafted tight end at number four men. This has all end that no we could see the highest d three player ever drafted so last year out of saint. John's was i have his name. Hold on where did it go. Oh yes out of saint. John's last year in the third round was drafted. Ben bartsch a tackle. He won the top offensive. Lineman in the minnesota intercollegiate athletic conference as a senior. He was second team as a junior. He actually played tackle for two years. He came in as a tight end but after training and getting bigger. They made him a tackle in college so he's a d. three guy he was the highest drafted play of all time. But this man and you walk in pali think of who i'm talking about. Maybe the highest drafted d three player of all time and as quinn meters out of. Uw whitewater interior linemen guard. And this man. He's great nfl stats. He's sixty three twenty perfect size for a guard. Huge dude looking at his pro day and combine numbers. He's in the eighty fifth to over the ninetieth percentile in a lot of numbers vertical. Jump broad jump here. Under sub five forty sub two ten yards split. His wingspan is in the ninety five percentile of guards. Great height and weight hand size up their arm length. Like he's up there this three guy and he. I wouldn't be surprised if taking the second round maybe at the beginning of the third. I mean i've i've seen videos of this guy. He just looks big. He looks fast but you especially wanted interior linemen pulling guard. Yeah imagine that big of a guy running at you with what you're on a sub five forty four nine. Yeah maggie gives them speed behind him with that much weight not a chance of standing and these videos he got invited to the reece's senior bowl which is for the division one guys. Here's pancake and guy from north carolina. State georgia in one on one pass sets. Here's pancakey doin guys in past sets and then you get to the game man. This guy's he did some damage upfront. He can play guard center to like. He's utility guy into inside like he can be great. I mean getting. The guy is just a freak athlete. He's a beast especially with the no lime and you want a guy that strong you wanna guy. That's fast fire. Quick off the ball. I mean if he's pancake in d. One guys. I think this should be pretty successful. Yeah some guys. Some guys are seeing a hidden like a developmental player. Maybe like maybe. His first year doesn't action. He's got a. I would say prove himself because he's not the one ring so he's not going against those top is but still give them a year. Let them working nfo system. Maybe he's like the six guy so like if a guy goes down here we've thrown in there but still this guy's got incredible film and he's getting a lot of buzz on social media for his homework as you said it's the most wisconsin thing you have seen. He will be down three point stance. Kicks kicks up and just knock etry over. It's crazy or like he'll grab propane tank and throw it over shoulder. He's he's a beast at. If you see a dude running over a tree or just pushing a tree over with his two hands you could pay me enough to stand in front of that. Guy would launch. Maybe twenty yards backwards. I would get up and say. I'm sorry guy's and he's jenny generating a lot of buzz on social media. That brings me to have found a complete list of every d two and d three player on an nfl roster as of last year. And i'm quite shocked at how long this list is. There's there's guys on almost every nfl team sometimes. There's numerous numerous guys. Did you know that the big surprise taibbi kill was division to play. I did not know that until reading this list crazy. He's where do you go. You want Hold on i can just pull it up. He went to west alabama. Yeah i saw that. I'm pretty sure rico. And go to d- to school to Fc fcc s ncaa t- North carolina. I remember showers. Like yeah. it's crazy. Or kenny moore. The second he's like another name of their greg's greg. The kicker for the cowboys went division. Three guys. On this list. That i have heard of at least Ann quite extensive. I think the team with the most guys is the panthers rhino. They have six guys want either division to division three on their roster. Which is pretty crazy. Goes show donnie. To go be one. Yeah it possible man. It's possible to go to the nfl. Without being on one scholarship the chiefs actually have four guys who went division two or division three on their team. Same with the rate the raiders have five tyreek hill. One still surprises me. Yeah it's very shocking. But like if you ask me where to tyreek hill college. I couldn't tell you know i really couldn't tell you came over in the nfl. Just as like this well. He's kind of owner because of his unreal speed then he made him wide receiver. Now we know what he can do. Dem had two hundred thirty yards in the game last year. That wasn't a half thought. It was like thirty touchdowns and a half. That's insane that is insane and when when you don't have this is because you stands at what like five nine five ten. We don't have that size to jump over people if you run by people like cohen. He's not end fast. Even if mahomes overthrows him he might still catch up to it. Like you can really just throw it anywhere on the field and say like kyrie terry go get it which is insane. But yeah oh malcolm butler went to visit into. He played at west alabama as well so the man who won a super bowl the patriots. Now he's a we just got released by the titans but he was a solid secondary player for the titans. Division to kind of crazy. This is pretty long. I was very very surprised. Still tyreek hill thing. I just can't wrap my mind around there. Like like teams like our say like look over him but look over a guy who just that sheer speed. Yeah i killed. I mean it does but that guy punt returner kick returner wide receiver in. He can just run by everyone. Yeah crazy well. After looking at that. I mean there are some other notable d. Three guys. I thought of off the top of my head. Fred jackson he was. He's going to be a hall of fame running back. You want to co- college a tiny school out cedar rapids iowa governor kuta. They took visit. I'm like fred. Jackson had them everywhere he was on like every wall they had like an award named after him and everything and i was looking at some stats in college. This man went two thousand yards this season every year. He's in college. So d three d one d two no matter what he put over two thousand yards on the ground every year of college. It's insane any turn out to be a hall of fame running back so it's kind of crazy man. He actually look this up. Why me if you head out. Your players from a small d. Three college went to nfl news. Potentially a hall of fame running back that would put that man everywhere to yeah w. guys suddenly. Nfl they had. They had a quarterback and wide receiver. One year try out for an nfl team. I don't think he ever made it to the nfl. But like there's been some guys who've been looked at we even have guys now who have been looked at Filming and design mcdermott. They had a workout with the bears and vikings last year. Homage pretty cool. He didn't do anything crazy i think. They got like their physicals done. They got all their tangible stuff done. So the highway wingspan hand size. And i think they did the forty and three zero which still pretty cool like the vikings took interest them and then had to work out with them. It's very cool. i know some. I don't wanna mess up his name. I'm pretty sure some due to my high school was just. I think he did a trial with the reds when they were the redskins football team the washington now washington football team. Oh gosh i wanna botches last name. But i remember the guy in high school is just. He was a linebacker beast. I think he's like six to probably to forty. Five garages massive found article from twenty six top fifteen players in the most obscure football programs. Marquette king went to fort valley state. Wherever that is it says say a division two southern inequality to let conference school carson. Wentz is on there for north dakota state. I don't think that's where it's not obscure at terron. Armstead of the saints went to pine bluff. Which is a division two school. No fps school in more and more guys come from schools. Now yeah for. I mean you've got your power five. Alabama had six guys draft in the first round last night tied those alabama. Oh it is. And but that's tied most like day tied the record for most guys in first round with the. Oh four miami team. That featured like sean taylor. Jonathan vilma like de class was sick. Damon snacks harrison defensive tackle. To william penn is a little ivy league. School won't let me see what else we can find. Danny woodhead running back. Went chad. Ron st a division to our first any holds numerous ncw records and ranked second all time with almost ten thousand all purpose yards in ncwa history. The town most guys don't achieve that by the end of their career let alone in what odors here. We go drill freeman. he was plagued chicago bears. He went to the university of mary. Hardin baylor which is a division three school. Which is what. I've heard from it. They actually played in the in the division three championship. A couple of years ago they just get all the baylor dropouts so like they're like down there on the opposite side of waco baylor so like the guys who like don't make it on the baylor teamer outer get caught doing whatever they just transfer to mary hardin baylor mary hardin baylor full of division one guys but they're d three team but yeah drill freeman. I knew went to a division three school. I just didn't know what it was so wasn't out. There was this year but twenty nineteen. The division three championship wasn't it nor central versus whitewater. Yeah and their quarterback got drafted essentials. I think or a dingy. Jason is a free agent after the draft. I remember thinking. I was like would've thought like to division three schools in our area playing in the championship. You really don't sleep midwest football. And i'm saying like sports in the midwest are so different than anywhere else. I know. we're talking about football but bring up lacrosse for second or even basketball out east. It's like so technical in the midwest. Physical yeah it is. It's who can completely different. Wow this guy in two thousand ten. The oakland raiders drafted six foot. Eight three hundred pound tackle out of a division school hillsdale. Actually did this one to tiny school in the middle of michigan telling nothing around it and it's a tiny school sick football facilities though probably because guys get drafted sixty eight. Yeah it's crazy. he's huge. What do you play. Tackle malcolm butler western album. Von miller not von miller ryan schrader tackle for the atlanta falcons went to valdosta state which is def- d to school in south georgia crazy. How memorial learn jamie cons. Linebacker went to southern mississippi school. that's where brett farve went Came and break and fitzpatrick went to harvard. Which i have heard of kinda crazy ryan fitzpatrick and harvard. Oh and then to round out this list. They go tony. Romo and jimmy g. who went to eastern illinois not known not known for their football program. But they have produced a high caliber quarterbacks before him. Tony romo jimmy d. I think there's another one that went to eastern illinois hall of fame quarterback for no reason just went to eastern illinois. I'll give you the details on this. One heck yeah. So there's a look at the top d two d three players. Nfl right now and ever drafted. I think even london fletcher who has numbers equivalent to like ray lewis. He went to a d. three school only because he stands at five foot ten but he's five ten to forty so he's a beast once you find me this stat on these qb's out of eastern illinois year. We got jimmy garoppolo sean. Payton the saints coach. Yeah yeah that's who it was. Sean payne tony romo. Yeah it shawn payne tony. Romo and jimmy all went to eastern illinois. Isn't that crazy. And i think they're all quarterbacks isn't sean payton. A quarterback was yeah. That's crazy isn't it. I knew someone we know. I feel like more pleasure just from the most obscure places nowadays. Yeah i don't know and see like as great as the. Sec is the big ten inactive and all those like some of the best players in the nfl didn't go to schools clue. Mac university of buffalo he is arguably the greatest pass rusher or defensive player in the last decade shutout buffalo course where he shot. There's yeah there's so many guys like that just went to rams like it was randy moss went to marshall argue with the grace wide receiver of all time went to marshall like don't necessarily have to be the pac twelve big ten. Acc guy to be a hall of fame. The nfl like a lot of times. It's guys didn't go to those schools a lot of times. It is but there are a lot of guys who went to become obscure football places. In other hall of famers may great careers forte to lane. I had never heard of too late until he got drafted. Granted is young. Then what oh nine. Ten somewhere around. And i remember being young. Yeah so hey nausea harrisville. This is like okay besides trevor lawrence. There's no one on the mock drafts that like lined up perfectly Harris at twenty four and he is said to be the most matt forte. Ask running back. We went to the steelers the steelers which they just get up. That's where james conner cardinals. All kind of just wanted cardinals. So that connor and bring in harris. Say i thought they had a really good young running back. James conner bud all trained. Well they did. They got rid of my replaced with you on. I think that's really interesting. I feel like that teams really young with like claypool. Juju smith schuster. Yeah harris big young for you. Yeah i don't. I feel like that's good for the young guys kind of get that experience with an older quarterback really learn it is all the games played out almost being banned like a lot of the guys that like we grew up watching are starting to get old. Yeah tom brady rothlisburger. I hate to say it but rodgers. Yeah he's all to more guys. Listens getting up. There hit thirty one last year. Matt stafford l. mike. Yeah status within the league forever. He's been in. Oh nine i think. So he's going on thirteen fourteen years. Feel bad there's always been on the line. So i love watching him play. He's he's he's a fun because the line now so but now with the rams they got some weapons. I hope he does go. Maybe yeah i hope he does to. How many other guys have grown in that. Like other sports. we're talking about messy rinaldo. Lebron james i mean there's also guys that just recently retired like drew brees. Did dwayne wade retired within the last two years. There's some fantastic grown up and now they're slowly going to be leaving. The league's man showed a tear. Yeah all right. Why think that does it up here. Reverend thanks for joining it. Everyone time up in the studio is coming to a close. Thanks to evan for joining me today and as always thanks for listening. Don't miss day two of the nfl draft and of course follow us on twitter just to away from three hundred dollars and as always thanks for listening this d three plus signing off

mack jones bears nfl niners packers browns kyle fuller ravens Eric stokes justin fields mac jones bateman cardinals football Nfc lamar jackson miami vikings Jj watt cam newton
The Ultimate Mock Draft 2021 - NFL Draft Picks 23 - 28

Boomer & Gio

51:50 min | 6 months ago

The Ultimate Mock Draft 2021 - NFL Draft Picks 23 - 28

"They play a little too much. Ural selection jacksonville. I believe he truly during every sense of the word. Just fear for your fan base at. That's what's going to happen. You're listening to the ultimate mock draft. Twenty twenty one presented by odyssey. And the locked on podcasts. Now your team every day. Welcome to date by the ultimate mock draft two thousand twenty one presented by the lockdown podcast network and odyssey as we take you through the first round of the nfl draft and beyond brian peacock and matt williamson with you once again. We're counting down to the end of round. One on our ultimate mock draft with the input of over seventy experts from our locked on. Nfl and college channels are locked on infil draft shows and of course our incredible lineup of odyssey nfl insiders former players hall of famers reporters. Doing fantastic work breaking down. All of these selections through round one and even those teams who are not selecting in round one and remember when the nfl draft. Around on april twenty ninth. We've got you covered with a live draft show with the draft network which you can watch on the locked on. Nfl youtube page and listen live on the odyssey app. We had our first trade yesterday. Matt the dallas cowboys moving up to make their second selection to nab one of those pass. Rushers there's still a couple more. And i would expect one or two more edge rusher to come off the board here maybe offensive playmakers of defensive playmakers still out there and some of these teams have a lot fewer needs than the teams at the top of the draft. The playoff teams teams with double digit. Wins i mean. I know the jets are on the clock right now. But they're the second team with a second first round pick. I kept mentioned. Kevin jenkins and jalen phillips. I think those could go very early. We haven't seen the defensive tackle or a safety fall would expect bar more or more rain to have a chance to be first round picks as well as somebody seems could use corners but the first four or gone so that makes it a little tough. It might be a bit of a reach and there's a lot i mean you mentioned the linebackers they stand out to me. I mean mike. Parsons is really the only true linebacker go so far. And what i think's really good off the ball linebacker while we will get selections from your pittsburgh steelers today matt who are hanging out at pick. Twenty four right after the jets. Who are currently on the clock. Jacksonville cleveland baltimore. New orleans all slated to pick here on day five of the ultimate mock draft. But right now it is. The new york jets who've already selected wants their the second. Pick in this draft going with quarterback of the future. Zack wilson john. Bush go the host of locked on jets is ready to go. What direction do you see the jets going. If i know robert sala former forty niners defensive coordinator. He is going to be all over joe. Douglas to draft a pass rusher. It's all about the defensive line and creating pressure for robert solid defense. He wants an edge. Rusher jalen phillips. I think would be fantastic here. They can use some cover guys still a lot of work to do on this roster. Although i think both you and i agree that joe douglas does have this roster going in the right direction. Yeah hundred degree. Ivette sal jumping up and down right now. Seeing gimme jalen phillips or even russo. They prefer him i. I liked better. Give me that front for that. I can really attack with. But i also think joe. Douglas is sitting there going. I wouldn't mind putting. Kevin jenkins is my book. End mci becton than just mashing. People i keep bringing up jenkins i think he's a real value here so they may have their first butting of heads here in new york and the personnel department jenkins clearly one of matt williamson's favorites. And if you wanna move people around up front he would be a fantastic fit and the is in. Let's get this going on day. Five with pick twenty three. John bush coat with the selection at twenty three in the ultimate mock draft. This is john from locked on jets in with the twenty-third selection. The new york jets picked terrorist marshall junior wide receiver from lsu now in an ideal world is pick with either. Be a cornerback or an interior offensive linemen because those are probably the two biggest weaknesses on the jets roster right now however. I don't think the board really matched up value. Wise the way things fell with either of those positions so instead what we're going to give zach wilson who we drafted second overall another pass catching target. The jets have drafted plenty of quarterbacks high over the last fifteen years and they've all failed in part because they have failed to surround these quarterbacks with quality targets to throw the ball to marshall has a lot of upside. he's got experience playing both inside and in the slot. I think he's a very good fit for offensive coordinator. Mike la microflora system and with corey davis and denzel mims already on the team. Jamison crowder and keelan cole. As third and fourth options marshall could earn playing time. But there's no rush to get him on the field. He would have a year to develop if he needed and then by this time next year. A trio of corey davis denzel mims and marshall could be one of the better receiving trios in the nfl the second lsu wide receiver selected in day one of this mock draft terrorists marshall now gone to the new york jets one of the few height weight speed monsters in this class in there so many slot type receivers available this year marshals. The only guy that runs that four four flat and is over six to can get down the field. You can also make some plays after the catch and sort of the forgotten guy in that dynamic. Lsu offense yeah. Didn't really see this one coming but your rookie quarterback needs. They're they're loaded with weapons. Even adding corey davis he of has some familiarity some similarities to denzel mims as tall outside the numbers. Guy probably a little more well rounded. I understand it. I probably would've fortified one of the two lines. Oh maybe right under their noses. Yesterday it was picked. Twenty two with tyler. Rowland of the titans. Stealing greg newsom from 'cause i have absolutely seen them go that direction but then it's hard to find a corner now to fit at pick. Twenty three fear the jets. They're not hurting for neat. Let's just put it that way. Yes that is who will put jason lockenfora on terrace. Marshals with the new york jets. Tears marshall junior has the potential to be an immediate impact player in the nfl from day. One he is super versatile is big at six four. He can run and he was an explosive talent in college. He has the makeup physically and mentally that teams covet. He comes from great bloodlines. As long as he stays healthy remain. Sure handed works hard to build up a report with zack wilson. Which will only come naturally to him. He's excelled in a pro style offense. He is based on all the scouts. I talked to the fourth receiver to come off the board in this draft after the big three. Go all possibly in the top ten. I think the jets would very much be looking for him here at twenty three iffy worse still available. If he's not taking here trust me. I don't see him getting past twenty seven at the latest. This is a very intriguing prospect. Well i temper expectations in the short term about the combination of wilson and marshall. The jets aren't ready to win right now. No matter what they do in the rest of the strath fence line they need to understand. There's going to be a learning curve with quarterback who's a little raw and with this wide receiver who was stuck behind some quality. Receivers himself there at lsu and has had to earn it gradually over time but marshall is a legitimate. Cy speed guy. He has one of the best wings fans and catch radius at this position. He can highpoint the ball. You can go up into traffic and make plays him combined with jamison crowder and the slot i think at least gives wilson a chance to make some easy throws and pick up some chunk yards with some jump balls but i still wonder about the tight end position. Is that something. They address chris. Herndon really was a nonfactor last year. The more they can provide to wilson the better but again this is going to take some time going back to our good buddy matt must gonna of locked on. Lsu who's been busy the last few years of this breaking down lsu prospects terrorists marshall wide receiver lsu types. This is matt moscow from locked on. Lsu how is it possible for a former five star wide receiver at six three two. Oh five ran a four. Three eight forty and had double digit touchdown receptions to be overshadow. Easy you play behind. Jomar chase and justin jefferson. That is the lot for terrorist. Marshall who was a dominant wide receiver at lsu can play both inside and out. We didn't talk much about him because the is ahead of them. Were that special. But so is marshall. And there's a late first round pick he could be a steal for those of you who don't know my esteemed co host matt williamson covers the pittsburgh steelers on the daily lives in pittsburgh. You know this team better than anybody. Matt chris. carter does a fantastic job as the host of locked on steelers would advice. Would you have for him with this election at pick twenty four. Chris is a friend and he does a great job. And i've had several beverages with them a training camp and whatnot so we know each other pretty well i'm sure he'll handle it. Well i would think you nausea harris. Falling doesn't make anyone in the steel town. Happy kevin jenkins sure. Looks like steeler to me. They have a center knee. That's probably a little early. But i think it's intriguing. Think about david collins. Jason davis or j o k next to next to bush especially jason collins with the height difference between him and bush. Really you really complete that defense. So couple of directions. They could go. Let's see what direction. Chris carter goes. He's ready to go with selection at pick twenty four. the ultimate mock draft. Chris carter host of locked on styles. I'm chris carter. Host of the lockdown steelers podcast and the twenty fourth selection of the nfl. Draft the pittsburgh steelers select running back travis etienne of clemson now eighty n is a top running back in this class. I have him second behind nausea harris but najah hairs was selected. Eighteenth overall by the miami dolphins in this mock draft. Which is why i had to go with a t n yes. The steelers could use a center or an offensive tackle or an awful linebacker. And i did consider jeremiah. Woo-suk ormeau of notre dame as a linebacker option but atm's ability as a home run hitter style running back and could contribute immediately on day. One to the steelers is something. I could not overlook. The steelers team needs balance on offense. They rank dead last in the run running game last year that needs to change and one thing they can do right away is at an electric running back who changes up the game and makes players miss. All over the field travers. Atn would come in and immediately start for the steelers and give canada the steelers new offense coordinator something to work with alexa lot. Faster running backs okay. Adding a little bit of juice to the steelers offense and travis at t and here at pick number twenty four. i know matt previously. We've talked about this aching. Thought niger harris would be a really nice fit for the steelers offense. How about the dynamic player like atn out of clemson. They even had a big play back in a long time. Mean we're going back to willie parker and that's not really the mold of the drone better than the willy archetypes. But i get it i mean. Atn's of very accomplished receiver now with back. Canada taking over as offensive coordinator. You're going to see a lot of jet motion orbit motion sweeps and things like that. At and be a different style and really be a nice fit for the new offense. He was heavy at his pro day to finish. I think i'm not sure that he's extreme workload guy but i think he could probably handle two thirds of touches. Or so actually. He's a little bit bigger than i expected and he can fly so fast. Parker haven't thought about that guy in a while and he was heck go back to those days in that steelers offense and little something. They need a little something so actually liked this. Pick if you're going to go with a running back maybe even more so than ajay harris. But you know how. I feel about running backs too early. I just think there's more winds to be gained at positions. That aren't running back. We'll find out. How jeff hawthorne odyssey expert covering the steelers here feels about the travis. Apn selection to the steelers at peak. Twenty four running back travis. Ctn put up some crazy numbers in college in some circles. It was thought that he dropped off or teams. Had the book on them. Eighteen rush for nine hundred and fourteen yards and fourteen touchdowns a senior but all he's washed up not only to play fewer games but then became more of a pass catcher grabbing forty eight for five hundred eighty eight yards last season granted smaller than most. Nfl five ten eighteen nonetheless rush for four thousand nine hundred and fifty two yards in his career over sixty. One hundred total was seventy eight touchdowns. Do you wanna sleep on them. Team slept on the eagles miles sanders falling to the fifty third pick. Would you take twenty four hundred yards and twelve touchdowns over two years. How about every team. That's slept on album chimera sixty seventh overall if the same size comparable footwork and bursts. Et did nothing but star from his first practice at clemson. He's the new nfl bac speed. Quicks can catch a pass. His best is being sanders or chimera. Steelers needed a running back but running back is the second round pick. Now they have short lives. You can find many good ones after the first like jk dobbins so the steelers passed on last year. Steelers had an opportunity to get a decade long offensive linemen. They lost their tenure centre and marquees pouncey. Soon we'll lose another first round. Pick david castro in his ninth year with the steelers of line. You had the worst running game in the nfl. That's not all on james. Conner added design an offense for ben rothlisberger to throw before we could drop seven steps to make sure stayed upright offensive. Line was the pick. If you bring ben back you're playing the wind now. They needed help to extend his career. It was time for him to make a new friend on the offensive line. Candice cooper breaking down the acc on the locked on podcast network travis. Etienne's been on the radar. Four awhile while making big plays in that conference candice cooper breaking it down traffic from lock on tar heels and i do a lock on. Acc action right. Talking about travis dtn. Who is going to be one of the greatest running backs arguably in the history of college football now. He's taking sounds to the next level getting some kamara vibes. He's very shifting very fast very explosive. You all the way already heard a lot of conversation. Comparisons about people in his draft class. Now she hears is someone who people are thinking okay. Maybe we'll see you. The step above but travis. Et in has been so consistent throughout his time in clemson. And i think you just a guy who's going to get whatever he lanes in the business he's going to give you a full and total and complete back. I look forward to watching him on sunday. Quite frankly because we are we always had these conversations about running back and how they're not quite of own. The not important in somebody often to the travis in is someone who makes the game shifts. Right he's boys fast explosive and he's going to make those guys miss so traps. Et in you're gonna be. It's one of the best if not be running back. Kick out of this class. And i look forward to seeing how well he'll do on sundays. More come on day. Five of the ultimate marks raft. Next up is the jacksonville. Jaguars on the clock at pick. Twenty five cleveland. Baltimore new orleans next joe marino and kyle grabs from the draft. Do podcast and we saw a couple of offensive play makers come off the board here recently and One of them going to the new york jets here and they go and get zack. Wilson at quarterback earlier in the draft and they get him a playmaker and terrorist marshall junior the wide receiver from lsu a big body guy with good speed really physical player and you think about the jets wanting to replicate a lot of those ingredients from the san francisco style of offense and marshall is that type of physical guy. That's good after the catchy blocks and really can make sure that they have those ingredients around. Zack wilson to really jump. Start his career as the jets entered this new era football. And how about this big at twenty four for the pittsburgh. Steelers running back travis. Ctn from the university of clemson. We've heard reports that they really like nausea harris. Of course he came off the board of eighteen to the miami dolphins pittsburgh going next on the board. The big question for pittsburgh now in my eyes is who's blocking for him they have so much influx of front in this pittsburgh offense with marquees counties retirement and some of the other departures in free agency. So pittsburgh is now going to have to bank in the depth of the offensive line class on day to to help them get day. One plug and play starters so that they can make the most of travis any dynamic back who should be able to take the predominant workload here in pittsburgh with the departure. James conner taking a look at the jacksonville. Jaguars what they've done so far. Well they haven't really had any fun. Tony wiggins sat there. Pick one made the only pick that everybody knew he had to make trevor lawrence number one overall to have some fun now at pick twenty five. What direction are the jacksonville. Jaguars in the biggest need of in this mock draft now in late round one because there are plenty of needs for a team that earned the number one overall pick in the draft. They could obviously go so many directions. I mean they are not short on needs but the roster starting to shape up a little bit. I remember jenkins again. And we'll see if that's the direction they go. I've seen fryer moose. The second tight end mocked year. That's a little early for me. Maybe this is where the first safety or defensive tackle comes off the board. That would make a lot of sense. Their safety position was terrible last year. So again this is a tough one to predict because they could probably go five different. Dereck is a good pick here jacksonville. It would make a lot of sense things some size on the defensive line. Absolutely there's one i know about. Gm trent balki from his days in san francisco. He loves the length especially with defensive. Lineman maybe dark for this election would be someone like gregory russo. With for long arms. Big hands might remind train bulky of maybe one of his best draft picks for a short time alden smith with that length and i think he could see some of that in him. So that's probably my darkhorse pickier for jacksonville. He liked to draft and players with length and torn acl. So we'll see if that's the direction the jacksonville jaguars go with the selection at twenty five the pick is in tony wiggins take it away. Hi tony wiggins with locked on jaguars. I tried to move up from the twenty fifth. Pick to the twenty third pig. Get front of the pittsburgh. Steelers to take travis eight again. Trevor launches running mate up at clemson. But the jets didn't want to do business. So i'm sitting at twenty five so i'm gonna take jalen phillips the pass rusher so the university of miami is not a constellation pig. This is a chance to get the best pass. Rusher in the draft. We got the best quarterback in the draft. Now we've got the best pass rushing draft. He's going to provide competition for canavan chase on. Who was the number one. Pick of the jaguars last year. At number twenty five. Ironically he's gonna provide competition in depth to see who goes on the opposite side or josh allen in the new three four defense run by joe color. This is not a constellation. Pick at all. This is more talent in the front seven for jacksonville as they continue to try to find that defensive identity so we're happy to have jalen phillips come aboard. Continue to both of the front seven and the defense for the jacksonville jaguars. Three more picks in the next twenty picks they'll find more explosive. Does on offense to help. Trevor long right now. They're going to be monsters on defense for jacksonville with the addition jalen phillips. It was a defensive end. But it was jalen phillips. Matt we've about is your number one edge player in this class dynamic coming off the edge only had the one really good season in miami after problems with concussions in his career transferred and showed no ill signs of any of these injuries last year. And if you're just going off one year of tape going off his fantastic workouts jalen phillips would absolutely be the top edge in this class. Maybe even a top ten pick for our exercise. We don't really have any team doctors yelling at us. Telling us know he'd have been long gone if i were picking the top twenty four so we mentioned for preface. This picked by saying they could go numerous directions. Why don't just take the best guy out. I feeling just look best player available. What's the biggest impact high impact position. Okay pass rusher. We got our quarterback. They could've absolutely helped young quarterback with a pass catcher or with office of wineman. But a defensive end. I think there's a clear top three edge players in this class now. All three of them are off the board jalen phillips to the jacksonville jaguars five. Brian baldinger. Not a doctor. But some doctorate level breakdowns from brian baldinger. Let's see what he says about. Jacksonville jaguars selecting jalen phillips. The twenty five phillips from the university of miami was transferred from ucla injuries and key cushion issues. Even thought about not playing football sat out two thousand nine hundred and came back this year and had a big season for the miami hurricanes at is eight sacks and sixteen tackles philosophies but he's got great size. He's over six five. He's almost two hundred seventy pounds. He's long he's laying. He looks the part. He's just very inexperienced. Would i be concerned about his past history. Not so much. He was young when those things happen. They haven't the injuries didn't travel with them. But what i would be concerned about is just his inexperience and how difficult that transition from defensive. Line edge pass rusher from college. The nfl is to begin with and then when you really only had one year of experience it's really difficult. The size of the tackles using go against the schemes. I think he's got a lot to learn about rushing the passer jacksonville. Jaguars invested heavily in edge. Rushers last two years josh allen in two thousand nineteen lack of chase on lashing two thousand twenty nine those two guys had three and a half sacks total last year so to say that they have solved the issue of how to build a defense and get edge pressure. I wouldn't say is the case now. Maybe they might unleash fury this year they both show town but i think jalen phillips could he fit in jacksonville absolutely i mean they need more firepower edge than what they have shown even though that they spent two number one draft picks at that position i could see them continuing to draft to add depth competition. The best man with all those kinds of things so jailed filters who's going to be a first round talent. He's got a long ways to go. He's got a lot of developing you do before he could say he's gonna be a great pass rusher in the nfl. Jj jackson the host of locked on a c. c.'s. Been watching jalen phillips for a short time because he wasn't around miami for very long but at a massively impactful season. Jj jackson on the pass rusher. Who is now jacksonville. Jaguars in the ultimate mock draft. Jay jackson from lockdown blue devils to give you an acc perspective of miami hurricanes edge rusher jay phillips phillips standing five and waiting two hundred and sixty pounds is one of the premier pass rushing draft prospects and the sheriff's plants phillips who is a top high school recruit in two thousand seventeen blazed his first two seasons of college football for the ucla bruins with his big frame and a very active motor many nfl. Teams would love to add phillips to their defense. Jill philips is someone who can play standing up or with this hint and the dirt. Defensively and twenty twenty during his lone season with the miami hurricanes. Gigolo phillips had fifty tackles for loss eight sacks forty five total tackles and intercepted a pass on his way to being named second team all. Acc along injury. History is the largest concern for jalen phillips who many nfl. Scouts are comparing hearing to the likes of cameron jordan on sweat. It max crosby. Which brings us to the cleveland browns on the clock pick number twenty six and the ultimate mock draft. Jeff lloyd in the browns more room has some decisions to make here what direction to the cleveland. Browns go there a playoff team. They're pretty good team. They feared out some holes on the defense in free agency was that assigned that we kind of know which direction they're headed in the draft to me. I know that the jv and cloudy. But if philip sorta ben there ran to the podium and just kept that rotation and colonies on the only on a one year deal phillips in garrett for long haul really appealing to me. I know for a fact that this organization they're very analytically driven. Doesn't put a lot of stock in investing and linebackers. But i don't see a lot of other holes on the browns which is remarkable. I mean usually this time of the year. The browns all kinds of holes. I would be looking at a guy. Like zaven. Collins difference maker second level players even collins was not only a good run defender as linebacker but he's got size and on top. That was a good coverage defender linebacker rarity so. I think that's absolutely a first round linebacker. If you're trying to draft linebacker around one of the can do a lot for your defense can be on the field on any down and can cover so. I would have no problems with zaven collins or jeremiah. Who su- cormo here to the cleveland browns of need in the secondary at corner. And maybe just have a little fun. Sorta like what we saw with the jacksonville. Jaguars sit back at twenty six and just draft the best player that false either right. They're kind of in that situation. It's pretty enviable jeff. Lloyd ready to go with the selection twenty six for the cleveland browns. This is jeff. Lloyd host of locked on brown's making the twenty six overall selection in the lockdown. Nfl mock draft. The cleveland browns at twenty six select. Cornerback eric stokes from the university of georgia they will add another edge in this draft but stokes as a two and a half year starter. Physical in the run. A plus special teamer scored three touchdowns in his days down and athens. He can come in and start right away if needed if greedy williams isn't ready or be part of a deep secondary for defensive coordinator joe woods. Okay definitely one. I did not see coming here eric. Stokes he absolutely has the speed. You're looking for in around one cornerback. But the hasn't quite gotten the grades than people expect him to go. This high usually ten twenty picks leaders where you see him projected. Eric stokes at georgia. Four to guy still has to clean up some other things technique wise. But if you're looking for a corner to mold top four or off the board. I can absolutely see stokes being the fifth to go off the board here great traits. They wanna play a lot of man coverage. I think he really sets up to do that. More than anything. Getting your grill and press you and run with down. The field. Not a ringing endorsement for greedy williams. Who sort of that style. But adding a corner is never. A bad idea are odyssey expert. Darryl rider covers the browns for ninety two three the fan in cleveland a lot of draft analysts and experts gave stokes in early to mid second round draft grade but he can just flat out play. Stokes is a former trash star and play in the second year in the nfl. You gotta be athletic. You gotta play within state you gotta be physical and you've got to cover ground quickly. He can do all that speed rail. This showed up at georgia's pro day ripped off a four to nine forty stokes coming off his best season at georgia's second team all sec selection. He shows strong. Anticipation is able to jumping those passing lanes four interceptions last season. Two of those. He was able to return for touchdowns broke up. Eight passes that led georgia in two thousand and twenty over the last three seasons. Something teams really like to see on film gave up just three touchdown so when you're a team looking for immediate secondary and a player who possesses all the necessary tools ball awareness size speed stokes has it and that's what makes him an attractively first round draft pick. Stokes played inside and outside of georgia. So that's good news. It gives defensive coordinator. Joe woods a lot of flexibility in how he can use them as a rookie. Cleveland secondary decimated by injuries. Last season as we know. Mj stewart. robert jackson kevin johnson. Those guys were starters in the playoffs all the sudden now cleveland much deeper and more athletic on paper denzel ward healthy. We know he's established himself. As one of the league's top corners. Greedy williams expected to be fully recovered from that shoulder nerve injury that sidelined him during training camp kept him out of the entirety of the twenty twenty season troy hill. Sign this offseason as well. He's probably going to handle the slot but he also can play some outside. If asked stokes immediately comes a rotational player barring significant injuries. He doesn't have to carry the load in the back end of the secondary so he has time to do a little on the job training refinement development his rookie whilst gaining some experience. Now you look at the second or who. Stokes added to the mix as we mentioned. It's deeper at it now. Both guys who are capable of making those big game changing plays. that's something. The browns didn't have a lot of on the back end of the defense at the end of last season. You know what that means. Matt here from clint champlin. One more time the host of locked on bulldogs another georgia bulldogs off the board here in eric stokes in renoir glint from locked on the locks on the lockdown podcast network with your draft preview of one eric stokes. Eric is rocketing up draft boards. Right now thanks in part to his clocked. Four to forty now eric. Stokes has a linear frame. He has the height he has the speed and in this day and age of the nfl. Where you're looking for is you're looking for that ceiling. You're looking for potential. And that's exactly what eric stokes gives you. He did not perform the best against elite receivers while he was at. Uga we like somebody. Like tyson campbell. Who has what we believe us set of skills that are going to translate to the nfl very well but make no mistake. Eric is all about potential. All about getting into that room and having. Nfl coaches look at the raw ability. And saying we can work with us. That's what was going to propel eric stokes in this year's draft. He's gonna go higher than he should look at production. Uja not their numbers may suggest but when you get against elite receivers we question. We hope he has an excellent career. But this is purely speculative based upon speed and size combo in today's nfl. And who could blame you. You need more. Dvd's as the likes of all the quarterbacks and receivers keep on throwing it in pitching around the yard so somebody's gonna gamble on him thinking they can craft him into a shutdown corner and we're excited to see it finishing up day five of the ultimate mock draft when we come back with twenty seven the baltimore. Ravens are on the clock. Then it's twenty eight and the new orleans saints. Which direction will they go. We'll find out next everybody. Trevor and ben here from locked on. Nfl draft recapping. The last two weeks that we just heard jacksonville. Jaguars going with pass. Rusher jalen phillips. And the cleveland browns. Getting cornerback eric. Stokes ben. i'll start with you. Jalen fills very talented pass. Rusher both of our edge rusher number one in this draft going the way down to twenty five or jacksonville. What do you think about this one. It's interesting jacksonville. Has spent now three consecutive first found on the edge. You josh allen. Two years gotta kentucky caleb on chase last year. Lsu and here's jalen phillips. This is a i think. Probably the best player available coach. Where you're looking at a super talented edge with some medical concerns. An early retirement out of ucla to he falls a little bit. We want to get aggressive and go after that position. I'm curious how they can get phillips allen and chasing all in the field of the same time given the profiles. I'm imagining going. Gonna play a little sub package interior russia. Sure yeah and then we talk about cleveland. I mean this is a team. That's been pretty stacked you look at it top to bottom. And they don't have a lot of whole as one of the big issues that they might have in their corner to situation and dens award hasn't exactly been fully healthy to play a full sixty game season for them. And so getting eric stokes. I think that's really important. Because right now you be okay with denzel ward with him as your want but if he ever goes down all of a sudden at secondary the cornerback at least we loved the safeties secondary becomes pretty vulnerable. And if you're a team in cleveland. You're making a playoff run. You've got your winning window open. You gotta make sure your secondary stout we've seen teams load up on offense of weapons all across the nfl gotta have the guys to cover them so those are picks number twenty five and twenty six twenty seven baltimore ravens coming up next. What do you get the team. That has everything matt the baltimore. Ravens are pretty darn stocked across the board here because they have some fun with this election. Are they tied in two wide receiver. They tried to do some work in free agency at wide receiver long-term. I'm not sure they really have that. Target hog guy therefore for their young superstar quarterback but maybe that players not here for them in the draft. Either the ravens are more every team says it but they they actually practice it that they usually do. Take the best player available as long as it makes sense. Positionally being said. I think marshall or bateman would have been an easy choice here. They're both gone. They need help. You lose dock way and jude on. You need to fortify that position. But i don't think rousseau's really fit. Maybe would be a really good fit. There is actually recently on baltimore. Radio saying that might be a perfect fit for him. Bring them along. Slow coach them up. And i gotta say it again. Kevin jenkins landau brown once out of town. You need to right tackle or you only have them for one more year. What jenkins guard. I think jenkins fits his style perfectly for the much they run the ball absolutely jenkins would be perfect here. We'll he finally come off the board. Pick twenty seven in. You're right. i think they did get a couple of players. Snipes tears marshall would have made a ton of sense rishaad bateman all these players off the board and the twenties disease. Oj lori would have been a nice fitting that baltimore defense coming off the edge as well but none of them are available. So let's find out who kevin oesterreicher. The host of locked on ravens will select of those players who are available at pick twenty seven in the ultimate mock draft. This is kevin all striker of the locked on ravens. Podcast and with the twenty seven th pick in the twenty twenty-one locked on nfl mock draft the baltimore ravens select jeremiah. Ooh zoo core. Amoah the linebacker out of notre dame now after many potential ravens targets. Go off the board. I went with the best player available in arusha core momoa. He's listed as a linebacker but can play safety and even slot cornerback as well and in a league were position. This defense is becoming more and more of a thing and ravens defensive coordinator don morton. Del loves his position. This defensive players we can move guys all around. The field cornell can provide a number of roles to this baltimore defense and make them even better as a unit for more draft analysis on the ravens. Be sure to follow the locked on ravens. Podcast part of the locked on podcast network j. Okay jeremiah a wazoo. Core momoa has now been selected. The do it all linebacker. He can rush the passer he can defend the run. He can defend the pass. The safety is he a linebacker. Is he an edge. Safety as we're seeing now is the rage all around the nfl. I love it position. Let's football you gotta cover so many different people on the office side of the ball and jeremiah. Allusive core moa can do. I mentioned the scene takes best available. I mean that sort of is where that fits. I'm really shocked that a player in today's nfl with this guy. Skillset would fall to twenty-seven it there's not a lot of obvious fits forum but it man. He's a dynamic dynamic defender. I didn't see him coming to be honest with you but get patrick queen really early last year. Yeah that's right. They did take a linebacker very high last year. Different player though and jeremiah. Superheroes different than everybody you. Almost eighteen could draft him because nobody has a player. Exactly like maybe the seahawks have somebody close to him. Jamal adams i would say that's the nearest comp two what jeremiah allusive core moa could do for a defense here very interesting player and he's small for a linebacker but the thing is when you see him and at his pro day. He's got his shirt off working out and you're like this guy. I dare you go up through his face and tell him he saw. This guy's a monster like a freak of nature. So i love this pick. Unbelievably explosive could be used. In a lot of ways they're very blitz heavy defense. I'm sure that bring him in that regard a lot to what about this one jason lockenfora standing by to talk about jeremiah. Core moa the latest selection for the baltimore ravens. A pick twenty seven in the ultimate march route at this point. I don't know whether you get caught up in a designation of linebacker or safety. He's a defensive weapon who is coordinator will have to find a way to tap into the ability to be a wild card in the blitz. The ability to disrupt at the line of scrimmage playing man coverage the ability to make on the ball downfield whether he's defending a running back or tight end or wide receiver. We've seen people tyron matthew when they're in the right hand be absolute difference maker. We obviously saw last year in arizona with simmons it was kind of hit or miss and they still seem to be trying to figure out exactly what he is. What this guy does is make plays you need to put him in positions within your scheme to do that tap into his explosiveness tap into his versatility at the end of the day. It doesn't matter what you call them. A what number. He has on his back. It's how many times per game does he have a chance to influence the football. I'll tell you this much there'd be some people in that ravens were who would be doing backflips. If jeremiah was available in this spot. They would view him very much. Like a derwin. James is someone they thought about when he was available. A jack of all trades swiss army knife who for baltimore in particular could really excel in coverage against ends and big receivers. It's something they've struggled with. They took patrick queen a year ago. Late in the first round to anchor their linebacking core running with scissors and running backs and tight ends wasn't his strong point. They need someone to make impact at the free safety spot. Also be able to defend. He would check all those boxes. I don't think he's going to be there when it's all said and done but baltimore has a pedigree of taking notre dame players. It's a program very comfortable with boy. I just don't think this player will be there for. But in this scenario that'd be doing. Hi fi some serious. Acc flavor to the first round of this ultimate mock. Matt aj black now here with us to tell us about jeremiah. Assu core amoah and what kind of player. He was at the college level and what he could be in the nfl. This is aj black of locked on boston. College here. Talk but notre dame linebacker jeremiah. Awo sue oh a redshirt junior. Kara moa was one of the best linebackers in the country. Over this past season. he's explosive. He makes big plays. He's instinctive quickly locates the ball. He sells out to make those plays. He's effective in pass or run coverage. But there's still some concerns about what he could do. He's a bit of a smaller linebacker. He doesn't have the typical build of an nfl linebacker. And he's gonna need to find a team that matches his skill sets however if he puts on a little weight not taking away from his speed. A wo- sue cover. Moa could be one of the best linebackers in this upcoming class. It could be a name that we talk about for years to come our good friend. Ross jackson is ready to go to make a pick for the new orleans. Saints at twenty eight to finish up day. Five of the ultimate mock draft. Ross jackson to pull the curtain back a little bit has been doing a ton of fantastic work behind the scenes on this ultimate mock draft is well so i wanna shout him out for all of his hard work. They're pulling all of this together and now he gets to have a little fun and make it a selection for the new orleans saints matt. What should they be doing here at. Twenty eight yeah. If ross wasn't busy enough now he has to run an organization one. That's little cash strapped and expectations hall of fame quarterback leaving garastas at all. I often mock a receiver here. 'cause area's tony has been the guy. I often mock. I actually like elijah more better than tony now. And i just think of what peyton could do with those type of guys. I think a third weapon in this offense is really needed. It's a great line kamara. Thomas are awesome but one more guy would go a long way. But there's also those good linebackers. James davis we brought observing collins. Which i'm not sure there's a corner i would go with. I think i would take the receive all along. Thought one of those quarterbacks up this is going to be mack jones territory a few months ago. That's clearly not going to happen now. So i think you have to help out. Maybe your quarterbacks you do have and let sean payton have some fun with another weapon on the offensive side of the ball. One of those guys carries tony relies. More do make a lot of sense here. Maybe even the purdue guy go with the five seven wide receiver have some gadget flying. Why not you know. I could see that. Absolutely being the direction new orleans saints go but let's find out because the pay kazan. Ross jackson locked on saints. Ready to make the selection at pick twenty eight. What is good everybody in here. Host of locked on saints and with the twenty eighth selection of our mock draft. The new orleans saints select zaven collins the linebacker out of tulsa. The new orleans saints usually noted as an offensive team and be able to hang some morals over on the side of the ball over the last few years but now that defense has taken some hits at all three levels on the defensive line linebacker and in the second during with all the top corners already off. The board linebacker was the easy choice and so as a six foot four two hundred sixty pound versatile chess piece like zaven collins. That was an easy choice too. So you look at his ability to be able to play in coverage absolutely. He's got you there. You want him to defend the ron short. No problem you want of the rush the passer. Yep he could do that too. He's a linebacker that can cover. That can play against the ron and that has pass rusher length and pass rushing moves. He's an incredible chess piece. That the new orleans saints. Sean payton defensive coordinator. Dennis allen would be able to use to their hearts content because they love their versatility. And especially when you get the lineup. Next supreme talent like demaro davis defense here and is the do it. All linebacker zaven collins to the new orleans saints. Now that i think about it. I like this. Pick matt and you kind of talked about it there before. Ross made the pick Zaven collins is a monster of player and fits a need on that saints defense. It does get younger there in the second level. Pair them with morio davis. Who's one of the better and underrated linebackers in the league already. I like it. I mean i think even call just probably a top twenty five pick. I think he has special traits. I mean few guys like him are able to match up with tight ends and not lose a lot in the department and they come off the edge and blitz. So there's a lot of teams that could've taken collins and i would have had no problem with it whatsoever. I think that's the key what he can do at his size. Because there's not very many big linebackers left in the nfl and there's a reason because they don't have the movement skills and can't cover but zaven collins can so you're getting somewhat of a unicorn here potentially at pick twenty eight. Ross tucker is here to tell us about zaven collins and his fit on that new orleans saints. Defense man i watched some tulsa games this past year studying for some of the other games. I was broadcasting. Zaven collins is an absolute monster. there just aren't many guys like him six four and a half two hundred and sixty pounds but still athletic enough to be able to make plays in space. I mean every game you watched. He wasn't just doing it against the run. I mean he was making plays in coverage in the passing game then he turned right around and he would be able to rush the passer and get pressure on the quarterback kind of reminds me physically of guys like main edmonds from the buffalo bills. Leighton vander esch from the dallas cowboys. You got a guy that's six five to sixty and can make split make plays in space and run. You got something to work with their love. Saving colin skill set as a player really liked the saints taken saving collins. I guess the question is how will they use them. We know that they've got tomorrow davis back but you know alexander loni is no longer there. They've had other guys that they moved on from craig. Robertson is still a free. I envision zaven collins being an off the ball linebacker on first and second down next to demaro davis and then in obvious passing downs. They might put his hand in dirt. They might having rush off the edge right. You could have cameron jordan. Give him a blow or he. Russian side davenport. Same thing and remember they. Have you know trey henderson anymore. So they need to have a guy like zaven collins have one more rusher in the group. And i think if they got david collins he would be able to be added to the mix including the other stuff he does off. The ball is back. I know trevor sikkim of locked on. Nfl draft is a fan is even collins. He's got the scouting report on the athletic big linebacker who now gets to roam the middle of the field. Or will he be coming off the edge in new orleans. Hey everybody jefferson here from locked on. Nfl draft talk about linebacker. zaven college. Now when you look at his measurements six foot. Four two hundred sixty pounds. This guy's an edge rusher right. He's gonna be attacking analyzed scrimmage. No meeting could do that. Well of course he's got the size to hold up but he still grated coverage to is a feel for spacing he's got the athleticism move side to side. He's doing all linebacker. He plays so many different spots and love and basically any kind of defense. This dude whatever. You're changing your defense to wherever you need them to play. He could do it for you because he's got the as well as the bryan to be able to play a linebacker position. That's very versatile in today's nfl zam collins. He's an ideal linebacker tile crabs and joel merino the drafts. Podcast got a couple of linebackers off the board here. At twenty seven and twenty eight we think about positional value. We saw mike. Parsons slide a little bit and now you get another one here in baltimore. Twenty seven with notre dame's jeremiah. Blue super moa. You think about baltimore typically carries in the front seven. They're known for big physical play. A cormo is a little bit more of an undersized hybrid pseudo-safety type at times with how much he plays out in the hashes and coverage. So i think this is gonna be an evolving work in progress for baltimore to find the right places to put him. Given how aggressive as a blitz defence elusive core amoah and his versatility should eventually find himself. An impact will nother linebacker off the board number. Twenty eight to the new orleans saints. Going with zaven collins from tulsa really interesting. Pick to me because they just picked a very similar player last year. And zack baun from wisconsin. Obviously tomorrow davis's that. Mike linebacker in so i think the plan here is probably to use collins as more of a pass rush as an edge player at two hundred and sixty pounds when they go packages. We know chauncey garner. Johnson is a big piece of that and so this might be a plan here to replace some of the pass rush that they lost from trey. Hendrickson okay five episodes down now. Matt we are down to the last few picks of round one coming up tomorrow. The green bay packers pick twenty nine or officially on the clock. Peter bukowski ready make the selection there buffalo kansas city tampa to finish up the first round. And then we'll hear. From the indianapolis colts seattle seahawks los angeles rams and houston texans and their first selections in the draft. If one of those teams doesn't treat up into the tail end of round one mad but so far from day five here. Those six picks we saw from twenty three to twenty eight who the winners and losers defy these last two picks stand out to me just smart organizations in new orleans and baltimore perennial playoff teams of wins under the belt of these two head coaches and they allow two very different looking but to highly versatile explosive linebackers to fall in their lap. And they just say thank you. We'll take them the saints. Ravens already had good defenses and now they got even better on that side of the ball. Yeah get divide. That these are veteran front office of the sit back on half day and it's not too big form and they say okay. Let's see how the board falls will. Here's the top guy left. Let's turning the card if you're gonna give me a really good player that we have ranked as the eighteenth best prospect at the twenty eighth pick while the. We'll take him thank you. How about this one. you talk about positional value. You might have gotten the best quarterback in the best pass rusher in this draft the jacksonville jaguars. I think he did. That's very well said. I mean i didn't see that coming. I didn't think the pass rusher was a monster. Need for them. But i think they were really smart to say. Just give me the best guy on the board and they playoff teams like baltimore new orleans but handled it very well fantastic stuff thanks to all the analysts involved in the ultimate monitor act and we will finish it up day. Six mock draft finale. Two thousand twenty one.

jalen phillips steelers jets nfl marshall Lsu Jaguars jacksonville matt williamson corey davis denzel mims travis cleveland browns eric stokes Kevin jenkins pittsburgh josh allen jenkins Chris carter cleveland
NFLDFS Week 3

The Gridiron Guide

37:24 min | 3 weeks ago

NFLDFS Week 3

"Welcome to the great iron guy. You're a known as baby defenders. They would does a two guests who we got on the show again today. bay expert. The mall vulcan king donald the camp. That's how he refers to himself. I referred to him as a. I'm not good. You know what i'm saying. But i'm ben bag anything though yoyo Up was handing. Y'all giving you all the tips his tricks on ash it foul me. Can i just say that. That is way better have live in studio than last time last year to thirty minutes to get on on the show up. He couldn't figure like an hour. We'll yeah welcome and he always taking. The spot of aaron should join us to remotely from a unknown location location. So we get. We're hearing on. We're giving you some d. f. as advice to go before we get started two things one very very say a couple days. Y'all retired from the nba. That's one of the best shooters in. Nba history. Just take a moment. Silence shy ears for. Jj nope this to killed this whole up for jj gamal silence for a great nba career to retirement. All right. that's almost one rug. New jersey didn't do cat. That's why so hats off to agree. Korea love your. Jj will listen to your podcast was wise men in a three or some old man. Old revolt amendment. Three up best podcasts. Nba against up. He had a retirement episode complaints go. I didn't cry all but you're saying but he cry dry. All right be sure follows on our social here youtube instrument twitch thank you for all our listeners live right now on twitter and youtube we appreciate it. We love the support. We love your feedback. We love interacting with during the show. Less than what we're doing telling trash tell the is not good. Tell me out more balls baby like rick. Ross let's get it all falls on twitter at doug on the other three d grown guy a anywhere you. Listen to your podcast sir. For the guide tell alexa being played gridiron guide. She'll do it great all right more time. We're going gonna dig right in the angel. Let's wearing your quarterbacks i baby. Dfs who you got this we all. Oh all right so right. Now we'll my quarterbacks interest will be on the spot they wanna know Real quick. I just put my squad. I just didn't learn up like about literally ten minutes ago. Michael hornbeck right now. I got my dog kirk cousins. I know he went off last week but they go too. They need money. They need points. They need ducats. Let's go baby who they played higher dollars or whatnot. What's jackie's draftkings. We're going all bail us. Opt drafting your sixty three hundred bucks like look if your quarterback is giving you twenty points. Don't draft them if you don't thinking in between points don't draft normally a big fan of door thread quarterbacks amass kirk cousins go green. Go wait a need you. We need you you own to you. Got some weapons. Use them this week. Woo love energy. I'm hyped is loosening. Although i hanker cousins and what you got five. Gimme your boyd. Any dimes seventy four. Hundred against the falcons. Seventy four hundred. I'm sorry i was close. Enough to the my freighter using draftkings. Oh shit. i'm sorry that's fan doing bad. Hey that's on me. My fifty eight hundred bucks. Daniel jones boyce tells far. He's averaged twenty points this year for fantasy football. so far atlanta's defenses. Probably one of the worst defenses in the nfl. is tom. Brady let him for five touchdowns. You saw jalen hurts. Let him up week. One day jones They're gonna use them more on the running game as well lose the read option things that nature so we damn johns i think a two over it over twenty eight is that right. I maybe twenty over twenty fan- fantasy points each game Fifteen hundred a little bit. Yeah like you said the falcons a lot eight touchdowns they allowed hurts to throw for three touchdowns in just sixteen rushing art. So you know being dimes could throw for you. Know a hundred two hundred yards along mushroom pays for good fancy day for you paid the hundred bucks for exactly how. I'm going to go another baby. You know what it is yes much. Search to say gimme jimmy g. The packers name fifty six hundred bucks gave. That's about twenty five. Roughly twenty five points fantasy points to jerry golfing james winston who you know jimmy. You kind of fits right in with them to For got injuries in the backfield they got a creative offense. Find ways to get their playmakers. The ball main beneficiary will be jimmy g. The packers cannot get russia right now. And it's but you know what i'm saying give time they'll get figured how but is right now their defense. Is you know the cornerbacks. Okay jar. Alexandra's great eric stokes from george's looking good but can rookie it. Resigning burma quincy this. Who may but Jimmy jimmy g. for a nice fifty six hundred bucks. You can tell him won't for nice steals at quarterback second load up on the running backs and white house another quarterback Or he's got to do just that one only had just that one but that's okay you don't have to get to. I want to again reiterate. Single again kirk cousins. Are you my boy or sorry. Let me chris. Casey's boy david car. The las vegas raiders. Bri the high hand league yards Derek or david. Would i say true david derek. I'm sorry you ours. I'm sorry derrick derrick right there okay okay are you. Give me a jimmy. Car- league passing yards. He gets the miami dolphins they have a pretty good secondary. But to not gonna play so there is this is gonna be again where the rate is going to get up early and kinda coast late. So he'd be car fifty eight hundred bucks as well dockings all right. Let's jump right into the running back so who wants to go. I let the guests go all right. running back. I'm gonna start off over what our dog. We talked about it saquon. He's do third. Time's term baby sixty five hundred more fucking dallas. Probably the cheapest. He's going to be the ghost. Probably the best lineup all year. At l. we just talked about the fuck. Danny dumbs saquon Shine i only know description. You already know what it is on this year. I almost put him on my list. But i did not unsettling little cheaper the first guy also somebody talking about giving time williams versa. Horror detroit defense fifty hundred bucks ally. Mitchell aunt jones both torch detroit of the past two weeks and again tyson. If you've got of roster by show time is one of four running backs with over ninety every both games not every game. Both ends a hand christian. Mccaffrey down niche. Oh company so give me tyson williams for fifteen hundred bucks. We'll give me the running back on the side of that game the andrea swift for for the honor bucks. I gave tours at the eight fifty eight. I gave george little tidbit before the angelo reynolds. Sleepytime the andrea swift is a been a being targeted in twenty five percent of the rousey. Run so every time you so you know. One out of four rows running the target. So p p. r. basis He's there any in these leading the obviously lions in running and their top top to their number two in the league and a ten yard of runs this year will average of ten yards runs this year so their offense aligned plays up there as well so the with for fifteen hundred bucks. I like it another run by the go ahead with the normally. I don't like to ride the hot hand like that but like we said you. Don't trust your boy. Mike davis. But i trust cordell patterson for forty six hundred dollars. Will you gotta have squirrel baio team. And that's a scroll who's going to get at least five targets at least five targets. So he's not gonna No he's not going to do what he did. Last week is gonna get you at least about five rushes in at least about three catches it might be about twenty yards. That might be about like six years on some james gentlemanship. But we don't see james. No cornell patterson forty six hundred again she seven point so you can make roster moves in money for your other positions. How much is he. Six hundred dollars. Yeah big on that. I definitely think he's due for a regression from the first two games of the year. If you're going to spend forty two hundred bucks or forty six hundred guy that's gonna get seven you might as well spend three grand zero. I'm on my beauty backs they want to. They won't let you have a running back. Then go their low for three grand receivers. You can low. So that's why. I want to go again. Right right rumblings. I'll go as low as three grand. John in the game. I don't donors league. I'm not doing this league He's going to try to give me a delete but now an interesting running back. You have one. I say one i got. I got my second one. Oh he's not. He's not next miles. Gas games are jimmy. All my catch him off guard miles gasping. Who's mars hasn't hear me out because obviously he's He won't have to this week Jacoby set the Hope is process. Not a bad quarterback obviously is not as two But obviously he's he's involved in the passing. Empty have fired targets last week or five or six times last week and the week before he had the i think. Four targets wells. He's evolved in passing game. Any didn't do that. Run the football. They just were down by twenty four zero at halftime. Or something like that. So i was gonna run a ball. The second half beverly Yeah just did fifty eight hundred fifty four hundred bucks for miles gasoline. So that's two bags under six game. That i gave you are give you my second running back for under six k. Firebugs more than amounts guest and giving antonio gibson agree similar could be the cheapest. He's going to be the rest of this year. Mark my words. I buffalo fifty nine hundred bucks hygiene stopped at buffalo offense two ways one. You got a good different divine to you. Got to run the ball. Control the ball control the clock heineke with him. Short passes gibson with the mice. Gatien runs a gibson has thirty countries in two weeks. You know he had a ten day break. Last thursday nights attending break hopefully the shoulder fully. He'll i want to see him. You know get out there. Get the goal on carries and really dominate gameplay. That one side. I'd take him saying that if you if you don't know what is that a detained make sure all you gotta player like a must own player. Of course i know this your flex guy all right so now under why. It's running backs wide. I'll go first. The guests always go spurs. What else doing say all of them are well. we'll start off with the jamison crowder. Five hundred bucks. He's welcome back my dude loss last week by the way got it. No that j. t. s. jets. You're seeing what he did last year. He's a beast he's adult he's harlem and they they need points he's gonna get tired. I don't know if he's going get receptors. But he's gonna get targets for that amount you can be up from other positions and we will get into later on in the show who you can get but for that price. You're guaranteed at least about double digits. Our say we're gonna demon semester news. Jamison crowder growing suffer setback. They're not practice today. Coach that because i'm james grammar fancy owner read. So does that give you the green light on brakes. Burials covers l last week. He's probably about thirty two hundred already. And i'm not too big on like i said running back down. I'm really big on receivers. Because i feel they get the most action so next up. This guy's just waiting to paul this guy. He's not big on running backs but he played king henry last week. So i'm going to jump in and say why receivers now it's it's my show sound like he's saying right now. Receiver gimme gimme georgia's boy Boomer sooner star sterling shepard going up against going up against a atlanta's paper-thin Secondary this is georgia's a favorite guy for waivers the pickups if he's still out there so fifty nine hundred bucks he's climbing up the wide receiver. Ranks is getting into that second tier category. So gimme him. Yup these are mortgage is actions. What about the only put more guessing any my boomer. Sooner baby gimme see. Lamb said eagles defence. Sixty five hundred bucks on the year. He's talking to fifteen catches on twenty four yards hundred fire Fifteen touches on twenty four targets unrated five yards. I'll touch on the year. i think. Big place sleigh. So i guess if you wanna call. Their slate is going to kind of try to slow down. Amari cooper for that reason i think. Cd lambs gonna kinda get the leftovers. He's gonna go hand. You know what i'm saying. Get the ball in open-field score maybe once maybe twice me. Cd limo eagles defence if the cowboys scored fourteen points but with that said my next why was he wrote a border as my dog chase klay pool we've been talking about the steelers date the anti johnson. We all know what's going on with amisi plan. Is he not. Aco visit not. I don't know but chase claim. Pool got three receptions week one week to week one like thirty years we to accept me. That means he's due for big game saying In for the price he's at. When is it only fifty s throw dice. Shake a baby chase pool right. Markey's brown hollywood brown another boomer sooner whoo fifty six hundred bucks against the lions lions laws a if he our farmer last week they lost them. He's hurt obviously a loss jeff khuda week one. So who the hell. They're not good but they're he's decent going on. I got yes. I'm interrupting so jersey. Hey so again. The i don't have a secondary marquees. brown is is increasing. His target share i was. He's running deeper. Routes is different with lamar. I'm running back jackson so in the trash so he's gonna be markey's groundfish center box. You just said the reason why won't take monkeys brown. Because lamar jackson out. That'll take for. How much marquees fifty. Six hundred x amount of guy offer fifty five hundred. Michael pittman junior baby tennessee. I don't give a damn if cursing wants out. I'll take jacobson throw him the ball tennessee's the worst defense versus pass this year. He's got they've allowed six times a white house into gangs over fifty yards receiving two six six wideouts in two games. They're terrible Mum junior works with the jacobson. Latin offseason they got chemistry. Gimme michael junior fifty five hundred. I'll take that which turned much. Its length bit dog. i'm sitting on. Take lunch bet what you bet. That's my second one. Arnie is yeah. My goal of my last two anytime him saying to we you last to pursue y'all play on your place though caller. Yeah karna crowder. Someone like i said before. I'm not too big on running backs. Like jassem cheap bass players saying this is way you gotta start spending the big bucks. I got my dog. Tyree killed them. Eighty four hundred dollars. You got it. I know you do you know what i'm saying. He didn't shine last week. Also put up last week by five points. What i'm saying. That'd be a high scoring game going against motherfucking bills. He's better chargers. It's a divisional game. He brought the shun some up. Parikh my next person. I know said i got my dog. Captain kirk go green. Go with his running mate. Justin jefferson another. Do right there. Seventy two hundred. Vikings zone two desperate adam eden. Nielsen jefferson at my baby year. Two was going down to feel that you gotta go. Tell me how you feel it. I like i like the jefferson play for sure. Is jefferson play a main my bought you might but i might cooper cup better record after last week. Said don't hold out on look out for my man this. I will listen this. So the weakness of temp based defenses. Their secondary secondary is not as deep as a front seven. So expect this game to be a high scoring game. I swear to be a lot of passing. So kubrick is gonna. He's he's unguardable in the slot. He's open almost every play. So the only going for six hundred bucks for a guy who's performance as wide receiver like two or three or one private right now. At this point. Gimme cooper cup for sure which has used to. I come to you right now. We are buying on my guy now. My guy actually paid him but respected. Gimme tyler lockett sunday. Four hundred bucks versus minnesota. I think for the vikings. Patrick peterson will be on d. Came out cash. We own the past past four. Matchups decay peterson. I believe decay has seven catches for. Maybe sixty touchdown. So peterson knows how to garden. Knows how he works at least brooklyn on talaq. It bruins not good. He's beginning us year blocking got twelve catches on sixteen targets. Two hundred seventy eight yards three touchdown sending two hundred seventy yards on twelve catches. Him and russ bomb. Russell was balls for santa. the air lock. It usually balls three games a year. But he's done good. The first two this will be his third gang. Vizier about gimme lock. It started in be tied in. I got to hear for you. Goldman cow pits. He show what he can do last week. I know i took your dude. He show we can do less. We got took that off the top can call. I don't know how much it is. Dr king's shown me working one is six thousand dollars for four hundred knows cow pets. They in the must win. And i know calvin really. We have very talk that much about him. Neither but he's bill but at the same time is like people know about him right and you gotta get over one. Hundred seniors. Mop reduction is about six ers six reception yards six receptions one hundred and twenty seven years and touched. Oh yes kyle pitsanu. Much in a losing effort though in a losing effort owned three thousands. I'm gonna piggyback because that was one of my baby. Yeah fourteen targets in two games. I think he's gonna score was first career touchdown and maybe his fucking second baby. Let's go. let's teeny celebration. Look like pence baby cousin. First cousin just how many how many errands causing nine is often run for four cousin. Yeah tech yeah good. Hey nobody right. There's not a lot of pets out there so probably somewhere but Tied in. I got two of them because de took one so this one of my at the wrong. So that's right exac exactly. Don't go today. hopkinson fifty two hundred bucks. That's first of all. I got to cut you off. That just shows the level of disrespect the guy for the city of detroit. My deal has been born out week one week. Two like for him to be that family bawling like that. What do you got two touchdowns over dinner over the years. Tomo pitts rockets. No not no hodkinson. I agree close to seven. Jeez i'll be back at fifty two hundred he's fifth-ranked talk kerry value sits right if the two hundred then. There's a focuses on him but he's third something catches two hundred fourteen yards two touchdowns on the year baltimore's played waller and kelsey got tours by both of them at one of the next top in. Nfl the list the third best time in fucking preseason kinship kills great. The niners aren't hey kid well anyway. Like oh i guess. I can't talk on. The show is a band and muted or something the hills longer go go ahead. You're a fucking guy the hell we all have the same fucking hopkinson man. Get another tight tighter now. If you already mentioned earlier i'll let you go later. Why get thoughts but a journal ever seahawks. Who who fucked missing whatever you said his name earlier. Yeah i been aided. Hey gerald ever desperate taco. Hey while i'm talking right now somebody look ups. You gust thousand artist house. Now is three thousand fucking dollars you jail ever westbrook russell wilson. Onate russell wasn't needs to repeat wherever the fucking day week one all right so he needs to get joe ever logged. They got him are. Free agency is cheap in our really think that he is on the next level. You know what i'm saying. aaron. I know you don't feel it us here but joe evert joe ever is that guy and you wanna go no. Go go to some player now. I got one more quick since we all have the same. Awesome hooper for the browns. We can go down. It's going to be back. But i still think who is curious blanket. I think we'll have a pretty big game down sleep. We hope a target in the future. Potentially for jill If y'all hey. I want to go in this message board in about a week from now looking like sammy p told me i needed scoop up joe. We'll see you know how to spell it at x. Might do a to. because he's obese. He has defense and he got to be. Let's hear them okay. I thought they were going to spit it out. I don't have a defense yet. But if either plane went out. Play probably Low key our probably. I like to go. Might even strategy is to go with the cheapest depends possible right. Julia genetic tom different strategy. I go the cheapest defense as possible with that. Man said why not try to the giants defense this week. I did last week before points. Try about again robert The lions play the lines. If you want to. But the jess defense. They're they're them alive. out there but at least the jets actually score points. They can control over twenty two hundred hundred said that if you listen they play they play the bracco so i mean tend to love and using turn the ball where lobby you know. He could be Turned over with the right even scheme. Rather grab a solid note. He's pretty good defense. A coach so goes players on defense aside but only two hundred bucks. So that's why i like them. They're pass the fucking bengals defense. Twenty one hundred bucks. They got six sacks picking on the year pittsburgh success big bend success. Gimme bengals at twenty one hundred. I guarantee the bagels coordinative places. We better we got. I got bengals out. You want to five. Sandy versus the back on roy on on another no. I'm a autumn off. And i'm gonna tell you who to pick sam the panthers thirty three hundred dollars. Yes this more surprisingly. If you didn't know now you know that's the number one defense in the league not turn hop neds right now. But you know that you're going against houston texas anal. Who's not plan your shawn watson you know who else playing motherfucking whoever the hell they backup is who was pregnant whole trial may shit david mills. David mills david davis mills. Where witnesses starting. Sunday for the houston. Texans all right. You know what i'm saying. He's trash panthers panthers panthers kyw cliffe's aldo. Yes shot out you know. I like i do like the panthers defense again. My strategy is not to play the as the about achievers even as possible so you have the same shot israel. Everybody you know name. Besides two people were under six grade. Dan thank i like the bengals upstairs. Doing must player. You wanna give us your muslim player. Then go yeah Let's hear your must own player. I'm not gonna hold you up. He said momma is it. i'm gonna go with. Dj metcalf decay jr d. ko donkey. Kong my is by go ham guerrilla. Look this morning or russell wilson. Yeah i'm saying like the. Vikings are going three so they won't give them everything they got. This is about to be a shoot out. I mean a shootout at least a sixty five point game. Russell wilson i. I'll tell you why he's the must own. This week can't make hasn't really done much this year. He is gonna shine yes. He said that corners says but that corners won't be on lack of answers locking john this year decay hasn't so they let decay do his thing. Let's go baby. Go to from the angelo. I agree with that. I had the camels. That i looked up the match up saw peterson you know he's going to be locked down. You've seen the past success. Like i said the past four games seven catches roughly seven catches. That might even be too high for for that reason. Staying away from decay and heavy towards lock it. Maybe even freddie swim as juror. He might be on soldier. Iran angola a muslim players. We keenan allen going up against Kansas city's defense He's he's he's averaging over a hundred yards receiving right now He doesn't have the touch on the show for. My whims has two touchdowns but a who originally thrown two on the year. So i expect better performance out of herbert and You know a a pretty game keen allen. He's one for sixty eight miles. No sorry sixty six hundred bucks so these is he has a pretty good deal for rap super one. Yup and a guy will again. I'll bet you be better fucking yoga logging onto whoever. You forgot. Cooper's called baby you already verse six eight hundred. You can't run on tampa bay you got to take the ball sean. Murphy buntings out again out in eastern good. He dipped in here yo. So he's got sixteen targets over twenty five point four games. Why don't you remember one right now. A marine cd-rom both got over one hundred yards. There's tampa bay matt. Stafford is not going to be afraid to throw the ball mcvay smart. He's not gonna try to run the ball fifteen twenty times he's gonna throw. The ball beat the tampa bay bucks. Gimme cooper six hundred bucks. I who become my receiver. So she did so it. Md just slip out. This guy's feeling real good. You mean when you said you'd literally lost have been loved doug. He loved his bug. The shit i'm arguing right now. Dinner all right all right so there we go that a pixel before we sign off let's give. Nfl picks for the day okay. Let's do that. We almost got nfl week. Greece usery off the games. Because i'm not pulling they rolston them the angelo. Yeah deis love somebody might wanna call him dog the make sure he gets home before he left his dog. I drank way more than i expected. Jit or you know. We'll come all right there. we go. We schedule got glasses. We're going to discuss three. Scam won't be one. There's night panthers. Texans panthers all right same chiefs charters chiefs bounceback casey casey. I'll take the cardinals over the jags cardinals all right. I'll take the browns over the bears. Yeah brown's come on here and they could have been made up all right. Come on axel. Read them off. i have. i'll ask him up. I'm sharing screened on. Do it right man to everything shows right here. Are you kidding me. Washington buffalo my phone do what is it. Washington buffalo buffalo buffalo. Yeah as much as i wanna take washington buffalo colts. Texans the cold this is. This is my be partly this way. Yeah all right. I think the times did you know i mean. Oh wait know you. Oh no tech titan. Texans no no no no no no titan titan share greener i british. Okay fine argo at. What's next one saints patriots patriots yup same. Damn we are destroyed. Chocolate giants falcons. Gimme say you can see this shit up. Give me giants up. Same bengals steelers fucking cincinnati. Bengals who still dan lewis now ravens baltimore denver. Well hadda now. Give me detrick now. Never raiders. Back talking about rate is yeah brands. Who man shit shit. Give me the rams at home. Bid to others are taking the bucks. No not me rams they watkins. You mean the vikings. 'cause they lost a nailbiter last week there will be desperate me all right. I'll take the seahawks. Vikings hackers niners. You green bay. Oh my gosh. you're joking we mean. The four noes suck they bill. Almost eagles eagles cowboys cowboys. Damn so we have every game the same except for one. Cnn so as the only game they have different on. We have two games so fourteen. Fourteen team parlay make it up for for for cliff he'll play fourteen games. We'll send it out Coming into it. Let me socio nice cream. Coming into a y'all i was one game so We all we've got the statement about we've been keeping track. We haven't been doing our episode every week so here about end only another steak dinner baby. I cannot wait. I'm getting seafood. Tower to anaheim has done a. You got to tear it last time. I paid for though or you day. You're right. yep so two games differences. We'll see what happens. Maybe quick though the quarterback He's told me a lunch lunches awash. I know all right before we You know what i'm saying. Let you all go. Thank you for listening everybody on twitch youtube lot thank you for interacting with us. Just let us know what you think. Let us normally miss india. Try try poster. Lineups are some are line of some instrument. We don't want to give it all away. We want you guys listener show because we love the interaction one here you got to say. Thank you for listening. You know what i'm saying. The podcast over the twitch stream is still going. Stay tune if you watching live on twitter. Youtube we love. Y'all thank you for listening piece.

jimmy g andrea swift Nba kirk cousins jj gamal Michael hornbeck jimmy Daniel jones boyce falcons jerry golfing james winston eric stokes Jimmy jimmy david car david derek derrick derrick Danny dumbs Mitchell aunt jones tyson williams
N'Keal Harry Requests TRADE | Alex Barth | Patriots Beat with Evan Lazar

Patriots Beat

32:26 min | 3 months ago

N'Keal Harry Requests TRADE | Alex Barth | Patriots Beat with Evan Lazar

"Clns is Patriots. Coverage is powered by our exclusive wagering Partners at betonline.ag use the promo. Code clns, fifty-four, 50% off your initial deposit. Hello everybody, Evan Lazar Alex bars, Tuesday edition of the Patriots, beat podcast, breaking news on this Tuesday. Alex, never a dull moment in the NFL offseason, so we're going to cut in, right? Here's some breaking news as Patriots wide receiver. N'keal Harry has formally requested a trade from the team. This coming through his agent and Mike, Garafolo of NFL Network here just about an hour or so ago. With Alex and we're going to get into some initial reactions, just overall reaction to this news, what the Patriots might be able to get in return for n'keal Harry. Who has again formally requested a trade, from the Patriots and back when they drafted Harry in 2019! Alex! It felt like a round hole in a square peg in a certain way and you kind of knew that he was going to have to have a very specific plan in place for him to succeed here because he was not going to be Julian. Edelman, Wes Welker, Deion Branch, Troy Brown that type of wide receiver, that was going to win with wage. Outrunning precision and efficiency, and quick breaks and separation ability, and all that kind of stuff. This was a true downfield receiver that muted to flourish in a vertical pipe of Route tree and the Patriots had to be very specific with how they were going to use him. But never felt like they were able to get to that. Point injuries obviously played a major role. I think learning the complex page book paid a little bit of a role as well. But Harry's agents, citing the fact that in two seasons with the Patriots he's only had 86 targets and on top of that. Now they look at the depth chart we see wage Galore, Kendrick Bourne Jacoby Myers. The two tight ends. Where's the opportunity? Coming for a guy like to kill Harry and now we get to this breaking point, right? I had him off my roster projection, did that, whatever was two weeks ago. Three weeks ago, after spring practices. So I'm a little surprised in in with the the the veracity that this trade request was bought brought out and we'll get a job. And a little bit but there was no place for him on this team. The way he'd been playing, he didn't separate himself in the spring and it's there's blame to go around. I I don't know that he necessarily progressed wage rate, you would expect a first-round pick to progress and at the same time, having you kind of touched on it and I've talked about this in the past, I don't know that the Patriots use n'keal Harry properly, I don't know that they put him in a chance to play to his strengths and succeed. If anything he was playing to his weaknesses, they put him in a spot where they were asking him to do the things that he was probably the worst at in order to get open and win. And that, I mean, that just doesn't make sense. That's a recipe for failure. Where his agent said that you know, something about a dominant deep ball threat who's great at the point of attack. And that's probably a little exaggerated, but he was right about Nikki. Larry's ability to High Point, the football and win jump balls and we saw it at times here and there, he made a nice catch against Kansas City in the back corner of the end zone. He made that catch up the seam against the Chargers on Thursday Night Football and you saw dead. Little flashes of it, but it wasn't necessarily that he wasn't able to do that all the time. I don't know that the team put him in positions to make those plays all the time. So it was a bad situation all around. I think a change of scenery for both sides is huge and we'll see where it goes from there. But you know, I wouldn't be surprised if I don't think we kill Harry's going to go elsewhere, you know, be a pro bowler, be an All-Pro, anything like that. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes somewhere else and and is a contributor. It is a legitimate third wide receiver Red Zone threat. I wouldn't totally write him off yet, but it's it's not going to be a New England, right? And I think you hit on a bunch of key points there. And the biggest one that I see is that we saw flashes that Rams game, like you mentioned, the Kansas City, touchdown catch from Jared's to them, even his very life, I believe it was his very first game against the Dallas Cowboys in 2019, when he caught that back shoulder touched down on Byron Jones and he saw that ability as a big-bodied wide receiver on the outside. Had to go Above the Rim, High Point, the football win contested catches but the problem is is that that was never been high volume position for the Patriots, right? Someone that is going to go back windows. Jump balls has never been something that has been something that the Patriots have really featured a whole lot. Now Grog certainly did that in his prime but that that's Rob Gronkowski, right? You know, that that's that's a different animal and itself and ground brought a lot of other things to the table as well. So that being the only thing, and I remember watching someone to kill Harry's tape this past season, the season before wage, and I just kind of watch and said, what's the one thing that he's NFL? Good at like, what's the one thing that he is a above-average pro wide receiver at? And the only thing that you can come up with life is contested catches. So unless you're going to go out and throw them, a hundred plus targets and expand expect to production to come with 45, contested catches, then you have a plane. That is not going to be a high-volume weapon for you. And the other thing that the Patriots tried to really do with them that we've discussed, a bunch of times, is the scheme touches, right? The end around jet sweeps, the screen pass, getting him in the ball in his hands and allowing him to win as a bulk carrier. And in college, n'keal Harry was a very very effective ball-carrier. And I think at times in the NFL the confidence in the fact that he couldn't get open in other ways down the field that sort of Lent itself to making him worse as a ball-carrier to cuz his confidence was just shot. But also in the open field he is not a runaway NFL athlete, right? He's not somebody that is going to run away from people. He doesn't have a leap separation ability in that kind of translates to the fact that he doesn't have Elite Speed. So as not all carrier in general, it never really worked out in that sense. So what were they going to use him as? And what was he going to flourish as here? Sort of became a difficult birth. Seem to answer. And that's what his agent said. In that statement, is that over the last couple of months, they've worked with the Patriots and Bill, Belichick, and Josh McDaniels to try to find a role and find a job in a path for Nicole area to be successful here. And it just got to the point after multiple conversations with the team that the agent and the kill Harry, sort of felt like, it's not going to happen here. And we've been saying this for a while we sort of written. In this off I would say last season. Really that there wasn't going to happen here but now we've formally get the trade request from n'keal Harry and the one last thing about the way to catch thing. You sign Hunter Henry, you signed Johnny Smith. You expect those guys to now be your RedZone contested cats, right receivers and targets. So where are the targets wage opportunity for n'keal Harry? Probably not here anymore. As we can get into a little bit. Now, what the Patriots might be looking for in a trade, what? They might get back in compensation for n'keal Harry wage. And I think that that is a good place to start is the draft. And at that point in the draft, the Patriots, there were some rumors about them shopping, a play, n'keal Harry out there. See like Arizona, potentially being interested. Maybe, I think that picked I was at thrown out there was like a early day, three pick like a fourth or fifth rounder that obviously didn't happen to you, still feel like the Patriots could get that way. Decent of, because the fourth round pick is. It's not nothing right, you know? Right. That's solid, and now that's performed under par, you know? Yeah. And now we know that, you know, there's this place value on the 2022 draft, so, you know, would you rather have the a 6 in 2022 or a fourth and twenty twenty-three? I mean, that's probably a conversation. We start having well key was found pick for a reason, and I think there are teams, especially if they need wide receivers who may be willing to, give something up to ensure that n'keal Harry doesn't hit the open market. So I I think he's dead. Get something for my see. A lot of people throwing out in D? Isabella, can they trade him for right? Right, things like that. I, I don't know that. That's what the Patriots are looking to do. I don't think they'd be completely against a player player trade, if somebody came along and wowed them, but part of the reason this is happening is there's no room on the roster for n'keal Harry. Are you going to get a player that is suddenly a lot to make the roster? I don't think you're getting a roster lock for n'keal Harry. So you know it, maybe if you think Andy Isabella, I'll use him as the example is a lock to make the Patriots roster. Then yeah, I you consider that trade if not, when you rather have a player who you might end up cutting anyway or you get even if it is a v, a sixth-round pick outside of the top 200, but you get to pick up on guy. You have four years of Team control in, you're bringing him in a year or two, down the road, when the roster composition is different and maybe you have more room on the roster. So I I don't see the plane. Four-player trade. I just don't think that's what the situation is going to be. I think they're going to do their best to recoup a pic. I'm thinking it's going to be twenty twenty-three with how much teams are valuing 20-22. I think they'll try to get, if they can because the report during the draft this year was a fourth-round pick. I think they'll try to get a fourth or fifth and twenty twenty-three and then either you have that pic and you can make it or helps you trade up in 2022. So, that's that's kind of where I'm looking. And I think there are some teams that would be interested. I know we can get into specifics, but I think it's, it's much more likely to be player for pick than player for player, right? So, the one thing I want to mention is a lot of people in the chat and I know people are going to talk about this in general. That n'keal Harry is not worth the bag of footballs to anybody, right? That there there'll be lucky to get any sort of compensation for him. But the one thing that I think is important with this trade, I'm not saying that the Patriots going to get a second round pick for me. Obviously, it's not going to be very big compensation, but you have to take the player and project him into a different system, right? You're not dead. The Patriots, n'keal Harry and saying a team is interested in that player. What you're doing is you're hoping again it's it's a whole, but you're hoping that a team was very high on the culinary in the draft sees how they can use him specifically even two years later and you can get a trade with the team. That's maybe a little bit more of a vertical base, passing offense or a simplified passing offense. And that's why I'm Arizona has come up because I actually think it's nikhil's Camp that's putting Arizona out there because it's a very it's an air raid roots with Kliff Kingsbury and it's a very simplified system where he's just going to be nice to run up the field, right? He's going to be asked to run into straight line out game and that is something that n'keal Harry can get behind on top of that with Arizona, they don't move their wide receivers around the formation a whole lot right now, he's got a left wide receiver and he got a right wide receiver. So you're not worrying about different alignments, different route, trees different spacing. All that kind of you're not worrying about all that in Arizona, it's get up the field dead. One-on-one get open vertically. Win Above the Rim went on a default from Kyler Murray, those types of things. So a team like Arizona a team, like maybe Seattle, another name I've thrown out there just because of their type of offense, it just in general, a team that throws the football down the field more and wants to be more of a vertical based attack and use their wide receivers and that way are potentially going to look at n'keal Harry a little bit differently than a team, like the Patriots that credit Kate themselves on a timing Rhythm. All the things that we've talked about with Cam Newton versus Mac Jones, kind of Iraq. I didn't kill Harry with the Patriots as well, but the type of offense that they run. So I won't say that the Patriots going to get a big-time compensation back from n'keal Harry, but I do think there is a chance. Another team looks at him and says, We think that he's a different player, right? We think you should be used differently. We think that he has a different role here and weren't. Maybe not going to get a first-round pick out of him, but we're going to get a serviceable NFL wide receiver out of him, a little bit different, than what we have seen here with the Patriots. So, with all that being said, I do think a fourth or fifth round pick is potentially on the table. I wouldn't completely rule out a player for player swap. If it benefits both sides, I think that that can make a whole lot of sense and you look at it and see, okay. I was just scouring Our Lives to look at quarterback depth charts, right? Like if you can trade to kill Harry for two, it for a disgruntled Corner that would probably be the one position where I think it's the most likely. I don't think they're trading it for wide receiver. If they trade him I think it's for a corner, maybe a safety, right, and may you get a player? Let's say system change. Happen is going down right in and they're going for more of a man who heavy system. So now they're going to play more Zone, heavy stuff, and that I think could be dead. A beneficial for both sides, right? They move a corner, that's really a man corner and they move him out of their zone system, and they put a player like n'keal Harry that fits their offensive system, or maybe there's a recent draft pick like n'keal. Harry at corner, who's been a bust for the team that he's been on and they want to move on and kind of swap failed, first-rounders or failure, you know, top 50 players and go that direction. So I think those those are possibilities. But I think mainly what the Patriots are going to end up having to do is probably give up a little bit too much in that type of package. Depending on who the player coming back is like it would you tack on? Would you check on it? A pic to mikeal, Harry to get a better player back. I guess is the question I'm asking at corner maybe again it's gotten a somebody who's a roster lock and and I mean you brought up a good point before I just want to go back about you know, you gotta recognize the player for what he could be. Not what he is when you're talking about a trade, right? That's what the Patriots have done for years the page Just one Super Bowls on that concept, right? They gave up what was it? A fifth-round pick. A sixth-round pick for Kyle Van. Noy who had struggled for a year and half and Detroit cuz he wasn't being used, right? They were playing them out of position. He wasn't playing to his strengths, he comes to New England, they found a better plan for him. He obviously turns into the player he is now that's your hoping another team identifies, n'keal Harry in. That way, I wrote down a couple teams here that I'm looking at page. This this is mostly for a pic. I don't think any of these would be player for player but just that I find interesting, you mentioned Arizona. I think Washington as well because they were brought up during free agency as a potential landing spot. I think you should have to include Houston. They seem to be accumulating former Patriots. They did draft, Nico Collins, who's a very similar player to Nicky Larry. So we know they want those types of wide receivers, and also the next area angle Harry, make no mistake about it. Harry caesarea was a big McCleary guy. Like that was, that was in a lot of ways. I would say that pig. Kind of all went awry is that Nicholas area and Bill Belichick. We're both very high on n'keal Harry because their experiences with n'keal Harry in the top thirty visit and things of that nature. The scouts had a different ranking on their board or the wide receivers than caesarea and Belichick. Did they win with their gut? And they pick me kill Harry, and that's why we're here. So, Nicholas area is a big n'keal harry guy. So there's somebody on Houston's roster off that, maybe the Patriots like that, that's a definite possibility I would say. So all I have three more. These are kind of longer shots here. The New York Giants. You have the Joe judge connection on top of that page, just did sign Kelvin Benjamin a couple of weeks ago. So I'm not saying to kill Harry is Kelvin Benjamin, but there's a prototype there, so maybe that and they don't have a ton, they have a lot of wide receiver depth. They don't have a ton of them fell experience, so he's a guy, maybe fits in and then two more that are going to make you jump the Green Bay Packers. Yeah, because, you know, we've heard that Aaron Rodgers upset, they don't give him first round wide receiver. Is a first-round wide receiver to bring in and then the other ones, the Kansas City Chiefs, they lost Sammy Watkins, they don't really have mostly receivers are like smaller quicker, shifter your guys and their system and that works. But you want one bigger, jump ball guy. And I know they have Travis Kelce, but if they want to prevent, You Know, Travis Kelce going up and get knocked around by safeties in the Red Zone. N'keal Harry would be a solid alternative. You don't have to play him a ton. He also played well against the Chiefs. That was one of his better games was against the Chiefs last year. So they have solid tape on him. I don't know what the Chiefs would trade off Larry, but if it did get to the point where he got cut, I would not be shocked to see them, maybe, you know, inquiring and making that call and seeing if they could bring him in. Yeah, I actually like, the Greenberg idea a little bit too because on top of all the stuff with Aaron Rodgers that's going on, Davante Adams is coming up to the free agency as well and he wants a new deal and he already put it out there that. Yep. Would be interested in potentially reuniting with Derek. Carr has college quarterback and it just seems like for some things of a Ryan in Green Bay right now between all those guys. And on top of that they're dead behind Davante. Adams is a little bit thin at the position. They do have some corners and Green Bay they obviously drafted to your Alexander and Eric Stokes in this past draft and they already had some good Corners already. Thought it was kind of like they added to a position of strength with the Eric Stokes pics. So maybe I mean, I always saw a guy like Josh Jackson is kind of a, a Zone corner but maybe the Patriots, like his man has, he does have some length and some ability to play some Pressman. So maybe they like some of his man traits, and they could get a player like that. Who has been was an early round draft pick in Green Bay that has an exactly Panthers yet for them either. So, talking about that sort of idea. But when you look at some of these teams, and again, it comes back to what I was saying earlier, it has to be a system that wage Is going to use n'keal Harry properly and envisions n'keal Harry. And that way in Aaron. Rodgers is the type of guy, obviously likes to throw the football down the field. He's going to throw to cover receivers at times, but he's in that scrambled real mode and just wants to toss one up to somebody down the field. I definitely see that being potentially, if it there as well. I love the Houston angle cuz it cuz sometimes you just have to due diligence at this point. Include the brakes or the list. So yeah, exactly. And just again I know Nick caesarea was in to kill Harry, someone that off the table for n'keal Harry at the time of the draft in 2019. So I do think that we could see some sort of viable trade between those two teams for n'keal Harry met. Before we wrap this up, Alex, or we could also take some of these, a lot of empty Isabella in the chat, as you might expect with something like that. I wanted to bring this point up and just discuss wage. Not necessarily get on ragging to kill Harry about being or the Patriots particular, Harry being a bust. But why we feel like the Patriots can't or have so much trouble drafting wide receivers, especially early on in the draft and sort of what is the disconnect here? Is it, the system? Is it the players that they're, they're targeting? Where's the, the issues here with the Patriots and drafting wide receivers? Because I, I do think it is important to fix this problem because you can't, they're going to have to rely so heavily on the veteran Market, you know, signing Wide Receiver right. Season or trading for wide receivers that are already veterans, like stretching out on a Mohamed Sanu happens because n'keal Harry is a it doesn't work out right. You know, those types of things are happening and it's causing the money because they can't figure out how to draft a wide receiver early on. I don't know that it's they can't figure out how to dress them. Cuz again, like, I think n'keal Harry. Can be a contributor elsewhere. It's and we talked about this was a two weeks ago. I went on like this whole long tangent about if you want to go back and find it, it's it's almost like a not it's not you it's me it's it's not off the receiver, they're not I don't think they're necessarily taking the wrong receivers first off. They don't take receivers high up in the traffic often so that in itself kind of skews the data on top of that the college game shifted. So far from what the NFL game is, this is a league-wide problem getting college receivers who come from these air-raid, Advanced spread systems to adjust to a pro-style offense. It's really not easy. And then you kind of have the Patriots who are almost as dated of an NFL offenses there is and it worked for a time because yeah it was so complex and so did it but you had Tom Brady and he kind of you know made up for that now you don't and at a certain point the Patriots are either just going to have to commit to bringing in veteran wide receivers and a phone number. To take a shot, the 7th round on a train Nixon so be it. But either going to have to commit to when we need top of the depth are wide receivers. We're going to pay him or trade for them that or they're going to have to change them weapons and they're going to have to move it more towards what college offenses are becoming because they're based, so much more on just raw physical skill instead of technique and option down and things like that, because it's easier to recruit. It's easier to recruit guys like that. It's easier to coach players in that sense where you only have limited time in college to coach cuz the NCAA actually does something, but that's another rant for another time, it's, there's such a disconnect so, you know, when the Patriots go out and try to find wide receivers, are just asking these guys to do things, they've never seen before. It's a culture shock for a lot of these guys, and none of them have talked about it. Deion Branch talked about a recently, he was asked about nikhil are any kind of said that that the Patriots really need guys who have been through an NFL system before in there. So, few NFL like home. Stems left in college. That makes it hard if they want to draft somebody because the guys just going to come in and it's just going to be such an information overload, right? And I think that's a big part of it. Is what's going on in the college game and the fact that there's not a ton of offenses down in the college level that are running these types of of option routes that are running. These complex route trees and asking God to move inside, and outside and run around tree and and outside Rod tree and learn these ZX, all the positions at that kind of go into the entire bigger picture. But I think the main thing that I just keep on harping on with the Patriots and it comes to drafting wide receivers as they have, got to make a point at some point in time of drafting technicians, over these athletes, right over. I'm gonna kill Harry. Who's six foot two has good, explosiveness scores, good, vertical ability, all that kind of stuff. They have to at some point in time. Look at it. And say, we want the Shifty dead. Quick underneath route Runner that's going to create separation. That's going to get open. It has maybe some experience running routes out of the slot with a little bit of option. It doesn't necessarily need to be a first-round guy, but I'm running time. The Players like Terry McLaurin, the players like the most, I mean, the players like a, you know, these types of players that are more practically refined that are quicker than they are fast that are all these types of things. And you have to look at sort of the the good pics, right? Deion Branch is, I think a great place to start even a garlic Julian Edelman, who wasn't a wide receiver in college what were the skills that got them to be you know productive in this. So I draft those skills off the guy you're describing. Those guys are so few and far between because now you know to go back what I was saying before. Okay colleges are running these kind of offense in our high schools are coaching their kids to to play college ball. So, you know, I I and those guys have been there. I agree with you. This isn't to give them a pass, right? Terry McLaurin was there? We've. That's the big one for me. Say what you will about AJ Brown about McLaren was a great song writer as well. Thirty-two thirty-two teams passed on DK Metcalf AJ Brown's a tough one to me it was very McClure and that was the guy but you know, those players aren't out there and it's interesting. You said, Julian Edelman because the one common thread, oddly enough for receivers who have had success in New England is they weren't receivers in college. They were quarterbacks two of their best receivers off the last few years, in Julian, Edelman, and Jacoby Myers were quarterbacks. We'll see what happens with Gunner. Who's a converted Corner guys? Who have seen the position from a different point of view seem to be able to grasp. It's better in New England. That's why you know, okay so you that that you know, the player you just described if I'm looking at the last draft this. Most recent one if they'd wanted to take a wide receiver, I would have looked at Kadarius Toney right verdict call log. Quarterback, if that's what they're going to do. If they're going to keep the offense, the way it is. I think that's something that they should. And, and we following the team should put a ton of stock in has this guy always just a wide receiver, or did he play another position? I think that that there's a thread there and I think it makes a difference. Yeah. And and again, Kadarius Toney is a great example, because he also is shift, easy, and quick and ran some option routes and that Florida offense, those that you need to look at okay. These are the types of guys that have succeeded here. Even the guys that have succeeded here on a lesser level. Not the Wes Welker adelman's and the Randy Moss's and and those types of level players. But even a guy like a Chris Hogan or a Brandon, Lafell or a Brandon Lloyd or or some of these elements of Malcolm Mitchell, right? Some of these types of players, what were they were? All smart guys that knew how to kind of get open within the framework of the structure of a scheme that were good route Runners. That had some sneaky quit game. Is there something at the top of the route that was able to help them out to get open in terms of athleticism? But not necessarily these when you look at n'keal Harry on the practice field. He's a big dude, that's explosive dude, but those types of guys don't necessarily translate into what they want the wide receiver position to do. So again it's just I really would like to hope that they would start to look at it that way and see. Okay, these are the trades that work in our system. So let's focus on drafting players and even though it was a seventh-round pick, I think Tre Nixon was a step in the right direction in that, in that regard, is somebody that has some separation ability, it has some speed that has some good round pieces at the line of scrimmage and ability to get open against press coverage. So, there is some element to that evening, the seventh round pick. So, I think that is another sort of angle to this as well. There was one point that somebody made here in the chat that I wanted to get to as we wrap this up, dog. I thought was, was solid sort of jumping off point, of course. Now I probably can't find it, but I think the, the, a lot of anti Isabella Alex in the, in the chat page, I just is Andy Isabella, making this team right now. What does Andy Isabella give you that you don't already get from Jacoby Myers and Kendrick Bourne. Yeah, it's good question. Like, that's if you're going to train it took forever. Just as you find this, I'll go on this rant. If you're going to trade n'keal Harry for a player who's not going to make the team. What's the point? They're still dead money. It's no different than putting him. If you get a pic you actually have a shot at getting somebody. Who's going to contribute that should be the goal here. Get somebody back. Who's going to contribute even if they're not going to give tribute this year, I the whole and I thought about this before the Patriots, needing a wide receiver is an internet meme there. It's not based in reality, they added the two tight ends. They brought James White back, they added Nelson agholor, they have table. Of pass-catchers unless you're adding a true number one wide receiver and I'm sorry, you're not trading to kill Harry for Davante Adams. You're not trading to kill Harry for Odell Beckham, I don't care if it works in Madison. There's no way that is going to happen adding an Andy Isabella, adding a hunter Renfrow, I'm seeing in the comments. Jamison Crowder, who I am a huge fan of especially for the Patriots adding a Jamison Crowder wage doesn't help this team because that guy is going to end up playing about 15 to 20% of the snaps. He's not going to make a difference. And I'm not saying that the fifth round pick, you get in 2023 Dodge 3/4, n'keal Harry will be a difference-maker but there's a better chance that that pick turns into somehow whether your trade it, whether you make the pick one way or the other. There's a better chance that that pick turns into a computer. Then it Isabella does, when you probably just end up cutting them right? All right. So I couldn't find the exact question by remember now what the general idea was not just to wrap it up, what's up? Team that you think would be the best fit for n'keal Harry. Moving forward. You know what what what team do you think if you're him, if you're in a kill Harry and his age and where do you want to go off? Probably Green Bay or Arizona? I think if I can get someone of the Arkansas City cuz I had them on my list too. I think, if you're if you're a wide receiver in general, we end up in Kansas City, you're in good shape cuz you're playing with Mahomes II. Think Green Bay is a good chance just cuz you're playing with Rogers and the jump ball thing in Arizona. I'll actually throw Houston on there too just because you're going to get playing time, I don't know, I don't know if there's a ton of teams where he's guaranteed playing time, he should be guaranteed, a roster spot, but he might get buried. He's going to play in Houston and he has what one year left on his deal. Two years left on his deal, he needs to play to reset the market. So when he becomes a free agent, he can get a contract. So one of those two teams would make sense the team for me if I make your hair is still Arizona. I feel like that's the best systemic fit for him in terms of birth. Find offense. They're going to run a lot of vertical elements of their passing game. They he has the broken playability with Kyler Murray to kind of have that secondary ability to kind of create separation at that point. Right? You know, it always at with the quarterback like Kyler you don't always have to get opening 2 and 1/2 seconds to get the football, right? You might be able to get open later on in the down and create separation that way on home and play. You can go Above the Rim. Tyler will definitely throw the football down the field. They're going to keep them on one side of the formation. I just seem from a, it's a simple offense, it's a vertical offense and it's an awful mobile quarterback, that might have some, you know, second beat type of place, or he can get open after the play already breaks down. So if I'm gonna kill Harry, I'm trying to get the Arizona, if you're the Patriots, Alex, what's the compensation? You're really was hard. Bargain, you're driving here. What do you really want for to kill Harry? A 2022 pick. But I could potentially be persuaded with a 2023. If it's like a fourth or fifth round, right? If it's, if it's going to be either way, give me the 2022 because of that draft, but I don't want a player, unless somebody's going to step up and really, wow, me with the corner. I'm fine without a player, it like my roster. The way it is, give me a pic, let me go find the next guy myself. Yeah. I would say off and pick. I know that sounds crazy to some people, but I actually really think that that diet is possible from a team that looks at McKee Larry 2 years ago. And it could also, it could potentially be a wage pick swap, two words the deal in a 6-4 fourth, something like that, right? Yeah. Something like that. I that's a possibility and the Patriots. We'll probably try to get something like that. At first before they sort of move on to home deals. But I think that about wraps it up on the n'keal Harry topic again. As you can see at the bottom of the screen at the kill. Harry has formally requested a trade from the Patriots, Alex and I broke it down for the first 30 minutes log. Bunch of different ways, why it didn't work where he might be headed, all those types of things. So you can go ahead and hit the rewind button and watch the rest of the show if you missed all of that. And we will be back on the podcast on Thursday, for our regularly scheduled program. This is little bit of breaking news podcast here for you guys on this Tuesday afternoon. So, on Thursday, the regular pot will be back. We'll talk some Mac Jones how he wins starting quarterback position and maybe take some questions. But those are most for joining us on this breaking news edition of the Patriots beat podcast and we'll see you on Thursday.

keal Harry Patriots Harry NFL Arizona Andy Isabella Alex Kelvin Benjamin Deion Branch Travis Kelce Evan Lazar Alex bars Kendrick Bourne Jacoby Myers football Eric Stokes Byron Jones High Point Chiefs Hunter Henry
Mock Draft Part III: An Answer for the Raiders, How Steelers Can Avoid Foolishness | NFL Deep Dive

The MMQB NFL Podcast

59:44 min | 6 months ago

Mock Draft Part III: An Answer for the Raiders, How Steelers Can Avoid Foolishness | NFL Deep Dive

"The new season of fortnight is here if you play for night or know anything about it you'll know that the story line evolves with every season and it's better than ever whether you're playing battle royale daily or hopping in for special events in party royale. The island changes with every development that gets thrown at us now. The island has grown wild. So must you. Battle with wildlife and crafter weapons experienced the zero crisis finale in game now and pick up the season six battle pass to run wild across primitive landscapes with lara croft teen titans raven an agent jones go to f n dot gc slash season six to see it all. Hello and welcome to the mvp. Monday morning. and podcast. amer host gary gramling. I'm joined by just one co host on this connor or is year janney. Brenton's is taking a week off. She's going to do some advance work on par four of the mock draft series and connor. And i we're just we're gonna two of us on on part three. I mean it was just me and jenny for part one seems only fair. this point. it's it's it feels good after you guys. Irreparably damaged the top eight with my permission to allow me to go. Do the same thing to the middle. The middle third of the draft. Some very excited about this so real quick. Let me run down the team's doing in this one because it always gets a little dicey because teams you know teams have two first round picks you all know how draft works and we're going to do all thirty teams so now we're like moving pass pick twenty four but You'll you'll get it but in this one. We have raiders. Dolphins football team bears colts. Titans jets steelers jaguars. Let me give you the quick. Rundown of the i sixteen picks of our mock again. We do not trades allowed in this mock draft and we also give them the guys that really they should take so once again with your watching the draft in ten days or so. Your team's picked does not match up with what we have given them in the my draft. You you're right to be upset because they did not do the right thing we are going. Jaguars took trevor lawrence jets. Took wilson forty niners. Trae lance falcons penny sewell bengals. Rashawn slater dolphins jomar chase lions davonte smith panthers justin fields. That's right. They still need a quarterback and nine. The broncos took mack jones cowboys. Patrick 'certain the second Giants took kyle pits. What a steel for the giants. Dave gentlemen great work Eagles at twelve jalen waddell chargers take crucial. Dera saw vikings jalen phillips rusher patriots. Take mike parsons. And the cardinals took caleb. Farley cornerback from virginia tech and that land is on the raiders. And i know you agree with me. Connor the raiders are just. It's it's right on track. They are mistake. Free for a couple of seasons now. And i mean did. Today's do these pass at this point. Do they need a first round pick. Yeah i mean. If you're jon gruden you've done such a good job To this point and building the roster that you could you could take a year off Can i just add by the way that i'm a hundred percent. Certain that justin fields is going to the forty niners now. This isn't a report or justin fields are trae lance. Guess it's one of those two I i just have to say that. I think the mac jones thing is gonna look so silly and iraq three weeks i agree with you and and we might look incredibly stupid ten days from now but I agree with you. I i think is gonna be trae lance I wouldn't be shocked by justin field. I still would be shocked somewhat shocked. I mean everyone else has thrown out there so i can't be that shock but but still somewhat shocked if they took knack jones. It's just it's cutting hansie's what's going on around the league. He wants he wants guy. You can like run around a little bit and you can make some off platform throws and you can expand your playbook a little bit. I don't think he just wants a kirk cousins junior. Yeah it's funny. I mean and i do this exercise with a lot of teams when you're building your mock draft because there are those moments when coaches are unusually candid In a press conference and they talk about things that they actually do like and things that they actually do need that they don't have and there's been two or three times that kyle shanahan sat there and said we need a guy to run the full like quarterback run the football. And it's just like it's crazy to me that that is being so overlooked at this point but To spin it. Forward to the raiders. Pick i just think that. That theme is universal. Jon gruden just happens to do it a lot. More than other coaches and he happens to because he happens to need a lot more things another coaches because he's not good at what he's doing But you know there are certainly some bread crumbs. I think that he's left out on the trails. Well what what what breadcrumbs do you refer to connor. Can you not see him. I i have I mean again this entire my appearance on this. Podcast is just me fighting for the things that i in my own. Mock draft so. I will just speaking for myself. But i have them taking mike. Parsons from penn state And for the first reason being like couldn't you just see him coming out on draft day and just being like yeah. Man penn state linebackers like. That's that's what's going on like we need to get tough and you know this guy's a tough guy in penn state linebackers And then that's what would happen however The other side of that coin is like they've been three for three now on first round picks to to i think first round picks for everybody just like what was that So 'cause parsons would actually seem to make a little bit of sense there. He can rush the passer. He's going to be in the middle of that defense Gus bradley needs that guy. That can get sideline to sideline to do a lot of stuff like that and i. I don't think you can run that system without somebody like parsons so that to me makes sense as the pick there. Yeah but parsons is off our board connor. So white lick the question. Yeah parsons wente. Oh fifteen to the patriots. I should have known. We had the penn state or on the podcast last. So we're we're looking at I think these these two linebackers are really interesting. Parsons i think is a guy who can do it all. But if i were taking parsons i think i'd be most excited about his blitz ability or even the ability. Just put a hand in the dirt and just lineup as an edge. Rusher an obvious passing situations jeremiah. Wazoo core amoah at of a notre dame He's a guy who i'd be much more excited about matching up with a tight end and maybe even standing over slot receiver a little bit and sort of holding his own. There's his own defender. I think his strength is coverage. Now if you're looking elsewhere. I mean on our board allies. Avera tucker is still there. I'm gonna say one moderately complimentary thing about about gender drage building here I don't think you need a great offensive line in vegas. When derrick carter quarterback derek carr is always been very good getting the ball out of one might say early career little to go to getting the ball out quickly and it really made people. Donald penn was basically walter. Jones playing left tackle there and he was fine. He was a good player but he wasn't spectacular. He's using sacks. Because you know ball was coming out immediately was like what ben roethlisberger did a year ago. So i actually didn't have a huge issue with kind of tear down of that offense of wine i think they were little overinvested there and it's not a crucial part of their offense. I know that sounds ridiculous to say. But you know i i was okay with the moving on so i could see them addressing underlying like you said they boy they have spent on that secondary. They've spent draft picks on that secretary. Since since may i got there with with gruden and those dudes just really hasn't worked out. It's it's a rough group and you feel bad being like well. Let's go back to the well with another defensive back here. I mean it might be too early to pull the plug on these guys. But it's not working back there. I guess the other issue is they really haven't had a passer so last couple years and now yadda dock way. And maybe you have something cooking there but That's a lot of stuff. I just threw out there and I know your heart is still mending after Being reminded the mike. Parsons is not bill this exercise. So here's the perfect thing though. Is that if any coach were to make a draft pick and send in the card if a guy who had already been selected by another team you know would be. We're or like Like a half asleep. Dave gettleman to go all right. There's some some complications with zoom call. Okay so i agree. I think that offensive line is probably the next best option. There that said give me nervous now. I have to go back now. Three or four times just to look at all the people who got taken. You know there's a jc could take someone like that at this pick. You know a guy that i've really gotten to love and i'm gonna mispronounce his name so it shows like crushes my point here but trevon morag woodard from. Tcu is really fun to watch. Compl- a bunch of positions Super versatile Maybe that's the guy that you want there but offensive tackle does seem like you know the pick at this point just because if you look at their if you look at what they are right now upfront. It's not good right. i mean it's. It's a little bit of an unmitigated disaster in yes derek. Carr gets the ball out quick but like you know right now you have brandon. Parker is you're right tackle Maybe richie incognito coming back again to play guard. Colton miller actually did play a lot. Better last year But you know that at least takes care of some of your business. Keeps josh jacobs moving a little bit. I don't know. I mean this is a tough one. I think you scapegoated. Though to your point you scapegoated the defense so much last year and you switch coordinators to the point where you can't ignore that either and you and you probably can't go into the season with damon are net and i dunno trevon mullen as your cornerbacks. I mean that's i guess that's it's like look dame nitsa first round pick from last year trayvon mullins a day two pick from the year before i don't again here and say like those guys can't play d- mullins vin. Let's call it up and down generously for two seasons and and our net probably wasn't quite what you need them to be last year so Do you need to go get another cornerback. And a or do you sort of get caught up in the again. Sunk cost fallacy is what it might look like in a year or two. Yeah this is tough. I mean there's a few things like there are some things you could probably. If you're gruden look at and say okay. I can probably talk myself into this right. I can convince myself that. Karl joseph and jonathan abram is going to be a formidable safety. Duo i can convince myself. That cleveland farrell jonathan hankins and solomon thomas and max crosby could get it done on the defensive line. I don't know if i could convince myself of two things that this linebacking core is going to be able to operate gus bradley's defense and these cornerbacks are going to be able to hang in this defense and it's a different system you know it's not what paul guenther runs you know. Maybe if you're mayock you're all of a sudden looking for different guys and you're looking for different things you know. It's all these are all questions worth asking you know and so i think to me it still. It's linebacker it's cornerback. Or it's or it's offensive line but and you know. Luckily for the raiders are so bad that you know any of these seem like a good idea. So i i like the idea of jc horn. Here in a gus bradley off of that and you could take our net and make him. You're full time slot guy and Kinda kinda layer head to sleep at night and feel okay about it. I do look we have very tucker kinda sliding here. I really like tucker like. I think you could play alive. Era tucker at tackle if you wanted to. He's probably best at guard. I think we just haven't found a team with that howling. Need this point to take him off of our bore. But i like jc horn. Here if i was gonna go defense i think. That's my favorite picker for the raiders. I like it in. I think that sucker slide could be ending very soon. Ooh all right. We are onto the miami dolphins who obviously we We picked with them what to shows ago they had. They're picking up at six. We gave them jamar chess so they have at this point. You know if they hypothetically have added jomar chase along will fuller coming in this offseason than you already had monte park resume williams We can we can pretty much cross off wide receiver as a need on this board but yes so you're looking again offensive line. That is another spot you know. Kind of similar to the raiders. It's like okay. Well you have made investments air. Oh how do you feel about Austin jackson at this point as you're left tackle left tackle the future You know how do you. How do you feel about Robert hunt there. There are ways you could sort of squint and be pretty You know warm and fuzzy about this young officer line but now there are certainly spotting better here yet. Admit scurr on the off season. So you know. I think this is a good unit but again. I think that there's so much there's going to be so much effort. Put into legitimising to talk of i low and kind of making it happen from this year that i think he probably just do the same thing and and you give him a guy here. I mean i trying to think of what else you know. What else does my need. They need safety play right. They need With brian flora's could he theoretically be pounding the table for that patrick chung type player. Who can sort of arrange all the pieces. Which is why i kinda liked morag woodard from tcu. Like i thought he was a great player that could slide in nicely there but if if the value is as such in the board is set the way that it is i think it would be difficult for the to ignore someone like You know someone like that or allies ver- tucker You know kevin jenkins is still on the board Sam cosmi is still on the board. You know there's some there's some offensive line talent you know. Yeah i would And i hadn't really thought about morteza more woodard as an option. Here brian me. I liked that a lot. Now that now the mentioned it They could use them edge. Help of course. Brian floor is being patriots disciple you. You manufacture pro your pass. Rushes bows to loading up on a pure edge guys so yeah i probably like various tucker here too. You're you're probably gonna keep robert hunt at tackle for another year. I think a year ago you would talked about moving into guard but you could probably take avera tucker and slide him in at right guard for the time being and see how that end ends up working out. Solomon kinley become sort of a a reserve dude to have eric flower stays in the lineup. And everyone's a pretty happy when it's all said and done especially if flowers continues to develop like i do think he's gotten slightly better every year Since that year the awful rookie year in new york. Like i do think he's getting better And and if not you know if the bubble burst they're than vera tucker is nice you know you have someone that you can kinda punch in in any of those spots and you can play to positions well. I just think that's so important. Because here's another thing. Flora's comes from the patriots tree. That obsesses over. What cross training offensive lineman offense alignment who can do multiple things and then fit into multiple positions. And so i think that's you know that's good. That checks the box. Lots of boxes checked here for the dolphins in this draft. They get Allies avera tucker here with their second. Pick the first round and that moves us to football team and their first pick here and i mean look they are. They are still in that market for quarterbacks. We probably don't have no the guy coming off the board in the first round the the the big five will call it if you wanna throw jones and there is off the board in this exercise. Davis mills probably doesn't quite i. I could see him slipping at around one if someone wants to get that fifth year option on him but probably doesn't quite work out for him. designed draft. So if you're looking to washington you're probably again looking at addressing that offensive line he. He's jaren christian. Your your answer at left tackle. You're probably not wild about it They as we know they've they've invested quite a bit in that front seven. Maybe the linebacker spots a bit of a weakness and You know the the Boy who did they. Who do they flip in ended. Up getting William jackson who after losing ronald darby in the defensive backfield. It's pretty good lookin' defensive backfield this point. Those are probably needs in washington connor. What direction would you like to go in. It's an interesting question because if you're washington you're almost the exact opposite of miami. Where in miami or new england do you use your secondary to create the pass rush but in washington you have the pass rush and not that you can ever laps on secondary because you'll get killed if you do that but you know. I think that there are more pressing needs and the temptation is there. Were if you hit on a left tackle you probably have the. There's a chance that you have one of the best offensive lines in football and the best defensive line in football which is probably pretty tempting. If you're washington like i i would lean offensive line here. Just because you can control both lines of scrimmage in a crappy division that you could win with a eight game eight wins again. I think that that's the strategy. Especially you know you give ryan fitzpatrick time back there. And he can make anything happen. So i like all these things. God you make Dave gentleman so jealous if you had a had a great offense line angry defensive line As far as the remaining offense align offense of tackles specifically prospects on our board. You're probably going to jalen. Mayfield that a michigan and kevin jenkins at oklahoma state. I i like jenkins. I think jenkins is more likely to translate to left tackle again. We we sort of overstated because you know left. Tackle right tackle. Not a not a huge difference in the modern nfl. But i think if you're looking for a guy with sort of a chance to hold up as in sort of the classic left tackle role. I think jenkins more likely at this point than a than mayfield. Who to me is a little bit more of a question. Mark a little bit more project there. Yeah i i have jenkins. They're in my mock draft I think he's great He's gigantic he can i. It was so fun to watch. Oklahoma state play You know some of the more inferior opponents on their schedule this year and just watch him. Just clobber people He's just like a giant guy And i think that's fun. So i i'm totally down with that. I think that's a good pick And you know dave gettleman again Just doesn't get his hog molly and he gets to see hog. Molly go in somewhere else in the division. So that's not fun. No no just tears streaming down his face with this. One as football team selects kevin jenkins often tackle out of oklahoma state began with morgan moses. Their support for this podcast comes from paypal. Small business owners. Turn your smartphone into a cash register pay pal. Qr codes or the safe and easy way to get paid in store and deliver the same security and trust. Pay pal is known for online in person. Even if you're a cash only business with pay pal. Qr codes you can accept credit or debit with everyday low fees. there's no additional hardware or software needed generate your unique qr code from the paypal app and display it on your device or print it to display in store customers. Scan your code with their pay pal app. You only need your smartphone. Learn more at paypal dot com slash. Us slash get qr code. This episode is brought to you by mortal combat. Or you ready to fight on april twenty. Third don't miss the action of of the year when mortal combat the worldwide phenomenon calms to live mortal combat is in theaters and on. Hbo max april twenty third rated r. under seventeen admitted without perrin present. We know it's going to take many forms of energy to meet the world's needs while creating cleaner future for all at chevron where lowering the carbon emissions intensity of our nation's investing in lower carbon technologies and exploring renewable fuels of the future. We work hard to care for the homes. We love only human to protect the one we share learn more at chevron dot com and that brings us to the bears at twenty bears. We know In the quarterback market. That's probably not going to happen at this point. So you're probably again. This is a team to needs. Kinda stand out to me here. One is often the line which i think they have. They've kind of addressed the interior. The last couple of years they really haven't addressed the tackle spots a whole lot and just not been a very good line and the issue for them is. You're going to have to lean on that run game quite a bit this year and look at it worked against some sort of bad opponents in the second and last year. Do you trust that going. Forward or not I'm not quite sure you hand. The other spot is cornerback and which it just. It didn't seem like it was going to be a need for them. And then they had to move on from kyle fuller. Because and i want to be clear. This is only because the cap got lower is why they had to cut kyle fuller. It's not because they I don't know did stuff like throw obscene amounts of money at robert quinn to record two sacks over the course of season it was it was all because of the cap but they suddenly need at cornerback. Here you know. Even if you're trusting. Jaylon johnson to take a step forward in year two here. I i just desmond. Trufant was just a wonderful player in his prime. And it's just not there for him anymore. I i don't think you can trust a true font. artie burns. I mean it's it's kinda looking nasty at that cornerback. About at this point so those are the two spots. I kind of struggle for them. Offense of tackle and cornerback and one of these sort of had an eye on cornerback. When they decided that kyle fuller was giving me a cap casualty. Yeah i had cornerback for them in my mock draft. It just makes the most sense if you break out you know what's well for an exercise based on what's left on the board a and b kind of hierarchy. I have a feeling that they are going to take a high upside developmental quarterback in round two So maybe they tried to get back up for A mills or kellyn monde has been linked to them Quite a bit. And so i think those are kind of interesting names for them. But yeah. I mean if you're ryan pace like you're just trying to like like those old fashioned telephone switchboards if you're trying to get one thing to make the other piece work and maybe few improve your coverage a little bit mean cleo. Max bent phenomenal there. But you know maybe it just makes him that much. More phenomenal and noticeably phenomenal. And so i think that maybe. That's maybe that's what she'd do but yeah they need. Help it a lot of places this. This roster is like raiders esco. Most you know it's not good and and that's the one thing i'll say in ryan paces defense. It's like you know we're going to this year. And it's like they have a playoff mandate it's playoffs or like they're going to clean out since like. They made the playoffs last year. I think they deserve some degree of credit. And we we all know it was a little bit fluky okay but they still made the playoffs. They played in the playoff game. And it's almost like had. They just collapsed last year and went five and eleven six ten and been picking a little bit higher than maybe. The quarterbacks are arranged. So you know it's it's it's tough. It's not easy being ryan pace right now. I will say this in his favor. There are a lot of things that i like about ryan pace and well not a lot. Because i'm going to list them. It's there's two things. The first is that he's aggressive. And the second is that he doesn't allow himself to be pigeonholed by bad decisions. Like everyone's like he screwed up. The quarterback selection process. Yes he did. There's no doubt about that. But what did he do. He didn't sign him to a second bad contract. And you know in pinches years and throw fit and fire the coach and get a million people to try to fix them. He knew that he messed up. Everybody knew that he messed up. And he got another guy in there. And so i do like the fact that like he does seem to be acutely aware of the mistakes that he makes over the course of time. And so you know. That was why i made the case for him. Drafting a quarterback in the first round. I don't think there's anybody that position that's in a better spot because you know. Imagine how much better you'd be the second time around you screwed up but you don't you never get that chance right. Yeah you never get that chance to take second one. But i would be interested in how many of these guys would do a better job. If they learned their lesson the first time you know i don't know those just no it's look it's a good point and the the general manager whose team just won the super bowl this year now granted. It doesn't take a rocket science as scientists say. Tom brady wants to play in our team. Let's let's let them play on it but you know how many how many people sort of survive messing up with the first overall pick jameis. Winston didn't work out in tampa and Jason got another chance and now he is a super bowl champion so As far as who we are giving the bears year greg newsom is kinda the clear cut. Top cornerback left on our board. I like news a lot. I think newsom could easily end up being the second or third best cornerback in this classier. And plus he he just he lives right there. He went to north western. So that's trying to save a lot on uber stuff you know. They would have to pay him. They could do what The brown stood in the movie draft day and they could have him at the facility Like minutes after the pick you know then that i think that would be a nice thing so there there you go. Do you ever find yourself doing that by the way when you do mock drafts like you constantly give like like i. I feel every year. I mock like lsu guide to the saints psycho. Well yeah of course. He's he's right there. They couldn't they couldn't miss them. They must have seen game at some point. The thing that i do reflexively won't doing mock drafts. And i've talked to jenny about this a lot. We both before we came here. Worked for the star ledger. Which is the state the paper of record for the state of new jersey and it every year. The draft was an obsession in finding everyone from new jersey. Because that's all you do stories about people who lived you know even if it was like you know one time like the ninth overall pick spent like a summer in millburn and you're like yes and i still like find myself. Reflexively get super excited over every prospect that has played one year of high school football in new jersey. So that's like my odd draft tick. But i do like that one too like oh. That's neat like he lives there and then the team could be right there. Well what a what a great story here for the bears. Taking greg new. The second cornerback. At north no sports writer will try to tackle that one and all will be forgiven for all of the missteps that has happened hometown euro to the chicago bears and that brings us to the colts at twenty one. Who are there look. They're looking for a left tackle. Your i don't know if it's as desperate a need as it would have been. A philip rivers was still your quarterback obviously carson wentz has issues but he is a guy who can protect themselves to an extent. So i think they're in a spot where if they're taking a tackle your to guy they like if they're not taking tackle. I mean you're you're probably looking at did do they try and ramp up this pass rush little bit more. Do they address the cornerback. Spot somebody that. Oh they've i mean they've done so well with that. Defense met era. Fluids is going to be like a victim. His own success here. You're just going to say like. I don't know we never. We never put a ton of divas. We got him deforest buckner and none of that. It's just much ado dudes. And they're fine so looking at the board here. I think the tackles are really interesting again. Jalen naval i like gala mayfield. I think he's a bit of adult developmental guy. I don't know if he's a guy who's going to be particularly strong. Impasse production. i. I think he's a guy who's gonna need some help out there And frankly you kind of rehab guy. Like that and brayden. Smith is again not a liability. But you kind of don't want a situation where you need help on both sides the line but it's a pretty steep fall off after that i like sam cosmi the The the texas guy the six seven dude. I like alex. Leatherwood out of alabama as guys. Who are probably riskier and probably a little bit. If you're making a straight up draft board they're gonna come in after mayfield. But i liked them guys who potentially could hold up in sort of classic left tackle spots if he were to try and develop them that way. You wonder too if you know. I know that they'd obviously did a lot of homework on quinn nelson. And with their time there with their connections there didn't find a way to fall in love with someone like liam aiken bergh From notre dame. Who's the guy i think could slip into the first round You know probably more like the back end of the first round but he does have the size In being a left tackle for ian book. you know you're going to run a lot of similar offense of concepts know and do a ton of that zone blocking and i mean that offensive line was super dominant. And you know. I guess you'd have to go back to the alabama game and see how he graded out there but did make some really nice plays against clemson and had some you know could games against some better opponents there so i don't know that's a guy that could jump on the board there but i agree i mean i have them taking a pass rusher Pass rusher makes a lot of sense for me but you make a good point with With uber flu. I mean he's done such a good job that maybe you think okay. Let's let's bolster the winds pick here a little bit and give him something to to work with. Yeah they're in a bit of a Best player available type is spot here. They wanted to go with a Gregor sewer equity pay or One of those guys who pays still in the board quickly pace on the board phillips is still on the board. No phillips is gone phillips we gave threat. That's right jon. Gruden did that again. Sorry so man. this is fun. i don't know we. We kind of said they can go best player available. You got really excited about quitting. Who i i like just fine. Yeah stuff. I don't know. I think if it was anybody else. That wasn't chris ballard. I would automatically put a tackle there. But but ballard is not like. I do think he's above the administrative bs in wouldn't just draft a left tackle to make the carson wentz trade look less bad So i don't know maybe let's do a pass rusher here all right. We can go quickly pay here to the colts and look. It's like sam. Cosmi in and alex leather guys might still be on the board round too. I you know i. I don't know if it quite re tackles that we mentioned is going to be there for them. Yeah yeah. I mean. I think you could live with whoever you end up taking round two again. Look it's going to come down to do they do. They like who's there. Do they like the player but We'll give them quick pay here and we'll move onto overseeing the afc south with the titans here who of course they've been trying to figure out this pass rush that has just not been very good at all but do pre is in. He'll play opposite. Herald landry jeffery simmons they hope emerges as a superstar here and we'll see how this one ends up going but Yeah as far as their other needs. Go i mean the the basically every cornerback. Whoever played in the state of tennessee was Was sent packing so they they haven't needed cornerback here and You know other than that. You're probably you know we as we know right. Tackle is still is still a need for them Other than that. I don't know you're you're you're maybe shopping for a tight end after losing johnny smith jonnu smith i love jonnu smith and now i just i feel bad. I'm gonna pencil in very nice apology letter. But yes they have some holes in this rosser. I mean you look at the corn. They went out and got janoris jenkins and kevin johnson. As sort of patchwork guys year christian. Fulton's a guy that took a year ago so they kind of were building toward this. Chris jackson played pretty well for them for For a day three pick last year. But i feel like it's just such a such a glaring need at cornerback. Right now after they had you know maybe this is a result of of having three good ones for so long i would say reading the tea leaves on this one and kind of keeping an eye on who. They've been doing some work on i. I feel very good about the fact that the titans are taking cornerback here. I not that our next pick. I'm i'm gonna actually at into stone but this pick i would probably like i would mold into a firm clay so i like that. That's where i feel about that but the question is who. Yeah i have someone that i like. I don't know who do you like their own. Who do you kelvin. Joseph is the last guy on my sort of We'll call the half ass big board here. I i honestly look. I think there's a good chance a jc horn. Or a greg newsom. Or maybe even a caleb farley on here about his medicals Ends up falling to twenty two here but as far as this excise goes you're probably looking at You're looking at kelvin. Joseph The other dude. I really like who is not going in the first round but I i think he ends up coming off. The robert rochelle. Who's he's the he's the. He's the testing guy. I'll say it. It's fine i'll admit it. I like it. But he's a wh- central arkansas prospect. Here who who look. I think he's gonna play in the nfl. Be really good. But i think he's probably day to pick. I have another name to kind of. Just throw a hat into the ring there. Eric stokes from georgia fastest cornerback in the draft. We know with the dory jackson. They love the measurable. They love those like the things. The place speed that you can't really replicate and maybe they're hoping that the aggressiveness and everything like that like you can teach you know you can kind of teach him the system but you know i think with the the way that the way the league is going. And how many speeds centric speed dominant wide receivers or in that division especially like maybe look at a guy like that who's going to match people step for step in at georgia did not get beat on deep balls. It's pretty incredible. You know and kind of seasoned under deondraye baker a little bit there and then came into zone as a starter there. But that's another guy like there. But i i i think they're doing their homework on the cornerbacks. I feel pretty good about that. I'm good with eric. Stokes there then the thing. That's kind of funny to me about the georgia cornerbacks here. Eric stokes and then you have a little bit more of a size. Speed project tyson campbell. If you if you go in that direction. I feel like the biggest reason people are down rating. Them is because look they. They did not fare well against the alabama wide receivers but by the same token like nobody. Farewell alam malaysia. Like every every cornerback. Who played alabama this year. That's in the draft and anytime someone wants to put together like their twitter thread on like i don't know about this guy. It's always like monty. Smith like cooking him up and it's like well about these smithtown. Donald did that. Everyone like you know you. can you can grab. you're not the bust on greg. Newsom you can grab your greg newsom rutgers film and be like all looking them. Walk these guys down. It's it's the monty smith. He's hard to cover. Nobody covered jalen waddell. He's hard to cover. That's the way it goes. Yes think about eric. Stokes and i guess i'm a little bit biased We're going to have a story on him next week. coming out but i did talk to him last week and i thought it was really interesting that you know he was he was kind of talking about exactly what you're saying you know. He's like yeah. I play jalen waddell. I played smith. I played jomar chase. I played you know all these great. You know the great joe burrow lsu offense. I played all those guys. You know jefferson all those guys and you know every day in practice you know. You're you're playing against kind of the heart of the sec. Talent wide receivers and stuff. And why isn't that your baseline especially if a guy's got great measurable 's and he's healthy. Like i guess that like. Why isn't your thought process. The same as it is wide. Receivers where you'd wanna start there with a guy who has the most practice against elite talent like that in the most experienced And that defense seems to translate relatively well to the nfl. and so. I think there's a lot of things to like their eric. Stokes is our guide to the titans at twenty two which brings us to the jets who also could probably use a cornerback. At this point. This is obviously the jets. Second pick of the first round. Taking zack wilson with the number two overall pick. But if you're the jets you could probably even though you brought in carl lawson. You're probably still looking for. Maybe another edge guy for robert solid defense. Here tight ends a spot. I don't know if there's second tight end. Who goes in the first round here. I mean look at their they're rebuilding we As you know if you listen to podcasts you know the jets. Already one free agency at this point. So they're on the right track. They address them needs. But i think it's kind of finding system fits and and look one interesting thing that he did last year and interesting. I say that in the nicest possible way. They have issues on the offensive line. The broad in kind of a bunch of dudes and similar to what i said about the raiders defensive backfield or or by the dolphins off in line. You could probably look at it and be like. Oh yeah you got some signs of good things may be coming here. But now if you have a chance to upgrade i think you go ahead and do it on the offensive line. Yeah no i agree. I think all those things. The offensive line makes me very nervous. Especially if you're drafting a quarterback at number two But this is the one that i feel like you could probably chiseled in stone. I think robert sol's getting an edge guy with the second first round pick. I think that the first first round pick is for you. Know for joe douglas. For the future of the franchise. The second first round pick is to make his defense work the way that he needs to work it and i think it's best edge available. I think he's going to. I think he's gonna pound the table for that. Won't we got in our exercise. Here we got greg russo. Just sitting there after that you're probably looking at Z's ojha lari sit there i love. Og laurie and i feel like no one else loves them. Like i love him I would i would i would take. Oj laurie like in in the early teens. If one of those teams hires me as general manager in the next three or four days. Here i just i mean look the other thing is i'm i'm absolutely terrible at actually assessing edge rusher rushers because anyone who's super fast and bendable i just think is going to be on now the the next Whoever you're fair in medan fast. That's that's who they end up being. I think they're all like I think he's just a faster. Bruce smith is where i think he is calm. Now it's like harold land. How about hair. Landry was just going to be an absolute monster in the nfl. And he's fine. He's totally fine. he's just see how it could z's larrabee be another herald landry probably but I would take him very high. Joe trion is is another guy he also try on. I was trying to mock to like odd front defenses and having standing up. Because that's what he did in washington but yeah. Yeah no i i. I would be happy with any of these edge guys. I don't know ariz. Necessarily like i don't know if you want someone slightly heavier there. I mean he's gonna come in about two hundred forty pounds and yeah are you gonna want his hand in the dirt there. You're gonna like be more interested in him if you're a true three four team lawson allison's already a little bit light on that one edge so you're probably not gonna go with another superlight guy which which probably has you looking at again. You're probably got rousseau. And who else did i throw out there. You're probably looking at russo. The way our board is shaken out. Here yeah i think that's good. I mean i. I like that pick. I mean i have a weird feeling to that just looking at kind of reading. The tea leaves and seeing how good of a job because a lot of this is salesmanship from the coaches to from the college coaches. And i think that many. Da's being down there has really helped the the player transition to the nfl. Like i think he's done a good job of selling people on these guys you know and and making some of these guys into first round picks and so i think. That's you know worth noting. I think he probably pounds the table for some like rousseau. And you know there's a lot of talent there and you know. I don't think that anybody's going to complain about the opt-out thing. I mean our colleague. Alex proof that a great story with yourself. But you know that doesn't bother me and i don't think that's gonna bother teams either. Yep no i think you really gonna worry about rousseau. It's kind of a one year wonder type of deal. And and i think he just you'll live with that and that's that's just the way it is so gregor russo to the jets at twenty three which brings us to the steelers at twenty four. Now the steelers that you could probably circle Cornerback as a need. Maybe you want a little more depth at linebacker after things kinda fell apart there in the worst possible way. Though you're probably you're probably feeling okay about it with devon bush coming back maybe wanna go find a you know. Do you believe in alex. Smith a. this point. And even if you don't maybe want a third rusher but the thing that i find fascinating about the steelers offense is are they going to do something different than they did. Last year they never evolved past this sort of They came out early year with this quick strike offense and this this motion and this horizontal attack and it was new and it was like. Oh that's really cool. They never did this stuff before. And just wait until they start building off of it and then he just never built off they just stuck with the same quick strike thing all year if you are opting to do that and i don't think that's great idea. But should they opt to do that. You're looking at the offensive line and just saying okay. Yeah we're fine with Chewy occur and and zach banners tackles. And y'all because it's just not kind of like we talked about earlier in the show with derek carr. It's just not a high priority thing to build up your pass protection when the ball's coming out two seconds after the snap if you are going to expand your offense which i think. They should probably try to be doing then. You're probably looking at getting some reinforcements for this offensive line. I agree i mean matt. Canada is the new coordinator. And i think a guy who super underrated in terms of his influence. On the league of the sean mcvay stuff came from some of the stuff that canada was doing in college at the time like Some of that motion stuff was stuff that was really heavily sampled from some of his work. And so you need offensive line. Help to make that work. I mean you know all the teams that run versions of that you know gimmick and versions of that kind of flavor of their offense need offensive line help and i just think if you're pittsburgh like i mean they're going to draft another pass rushing linebacker. So why are we talking about this but You know are you really going to go into next year needing quarterback a left tackle like like. Maybe you got. You gotta fix one of these things now. You know what i mean and and and take care of one of them because you know like how threadbare is this roster going to be here in a year especially when ben rothlisberger leaves. So you're probably looking at The offense line president jalen mayfield again is a guy who again. We're we're speaking in shorthand because there's not a huge difference between left tackle right tackle. But he's probably more right tackle slash kickin inside the deal. I don't know if he's a guy you plug in play immediately. If you're looking in that you're probably looking at alex leatherwood or liam. Berg is want immediate. Help there even if those guys are not quite the the difference makers that That mayfield has a chance to become down the line and then you're again you're looking at sam cosmi your You got some other options there. But i think those are the guys at circle leatherwood in eichenberger we will we will lazily throw into the same category as sort of the may be safer options to plug onto your offensive line and then mayfield is kind of the maybe not quite ready for prime time but probably the higher upside guy. Yeah yeah i. I think i'm good with any of those and i don't know i mean if you the steelers like i just i just don't know what else you're gonna do right like i just. I think any other pick seems insane to me right running backs being thrown around. There's no way with them. They did it. I remember they did it with chard mendenhall and it was kind of like. Oh they just you know. It was one of those like well. He's high on board. We didn't need him but we took him if they running back in round one. Let me think. I will let me think you're going to immediately regret it. Well they're going to immediately regret it but Now everyone regrets it. I hope i if they take a running back in round one all come on here. I'll come on your podcast and all eat. Whatever anybody says like you can. You can mail it in. And as long as it's nontoxic and edible and you know it's not going to do any sort of digestive harm then. I then i will do that. But there's i. I would be stunned. I think that would just be like outlandishly stupid but yeah it happens. I mean it's it's the way it goes. They don't they don't typically make outlandishly stupid mistakes. You know okay kick. Colbert is as good. I would say as solid of as there is in the league. I because we mentioned earlier as as a colts prospect. Let's give them liam eichenberger here. That i'm also looking at his aim right now. Then we can cross up a-list. I'd be good with any of those tackle again. It's it's a weirdly deep tackle this year which we never say anymore but yeah they they just when you're picking this late you can't say well we'll wait until round two because the do left might not be the dudes who you want. Yeah i let's move on. Oh last one of the show. We're already there. We are at the jaguars. Who of course are taking. Trevor lawrence first overall in this draft and they trevor lawrence is going to be as shocked as anyone at this point Yeah the the jaguars look they did. A lot of rebuilding With her meyer coming in and again we'll we'll see how this kind of works out in the long run but if you're looking at the jaguars right now like a you know. I don't not not the bus on the guy. I i don't know if sean jenkins is your answer safety. I don't think andrew wingard is a guy you wanna play by the to me. They have a glaring hole at safety on this team Do you want to your preset linebacker. Do you worry about miles. Jack long term. Do you do worry about how much longer schober gonna go for and d wanna second edge. Rusher here with josh. Allen is too early to give up on On a kalem on chason at this point who looks more like a rotational player. Although i guess he's very young so now just being pessimistic. Turn but Other than that often wine you can never have enough of at this point. Do you believe in. Joon taylor your your day to pick from a couple of years ago but yeah i. I think you're you are feeling pretty good about life right now if if you're the jaguars trevor lawrence coming in. So maybe they go offense early in the defense with their second. Pick here your had Safety or oddly. Interior defensive line which i thought was kind of Zig zag when everyone else was zigging and the only reason that i did that was because again we talked at the top of the show about reading the tea leaves on on various people's you know coordinators comments and everything like that and i think one thing stood stood out to me about what joe cullen said about his defense. He said this couple in his introductory press conference. A lot of people say it's a throwing league but if it's second and three in third and one all day you're not going to have the opportunity to get after the quarterback and to me in jacksonville was very very bad painfully bad against the run last year. And so i agree with you. That safety is the top need. They have great. We have a great person on the board that we've mentioned a few times. I think slides and very nicely there. But i would also i would also say i wouldn't be surprised because you pick up the litter for interior defensive line then you have the take the top guy in the class. Whoever you believe that to be. But i know it's kind of recency buys because christian bar more just sort of like wreck everyone in the college football playoffs here but I would put kirschenbaum at the top of the list of of defensive tackles here. I think all of them are kind of fringy. First round guys. I borrow more is the guy who if any of them are going to emerge as like absolut forces in the league. I think bar more is a guy ends up doing it. And and joe cullen you're in baltimore and you only worked with alabama defenders while you're there so that probably feels familiar. I could totally. I totally live with that. I think that makes plenty of sense for For the jaguars year even though they've spent some draft capital of that spot obviously new regime there. They're not going to be tied any of these guys so Or do trevon maury to i mean. I'm that's what i'm saying like you have an excellent safety there too and so i think it's a toss up you know i love. I love that. Pick to and if you're colon coming from baltimore you understand more than anybody. The value that position to and so. I think you couldn't go wrong there. I mean with either of those two guys get hit a home run there. Yeah it's like they brought in chat griffin to To play opposite. Cj henderson here. So i it's almost like feel good enough about your cornerbacks that you can kind of live with sort of a little bit. Shakey play at at safety going forward here. I like both of those. Who when when you brought up the coen factor and what he liked to do in baltimore and the way they built that defense in baltimore bar. More probably makes a little more sense at this point. I do realize that the ravens had at read for many years and then they had earl thomas role bit and they always had good safety plan. That's but they were always really set up front with the ravens. And i do kind of like chrome bar more here now that we sort of talked it out in our war room. I like yeah safe for the most part outside of the fact that our were might not be speaking to one another when you're the panthers and you drafted justin fields for the most part. We have a very amenable war room. This is This is not like they tell me it is in the movies. So it's that's gonna that's gonna do it for this batch for For episode three here of the mock draft series. I'll give a quick recap because that's always the best part of the show. raiders at seventeen. We had jc horn. Dolphins took elijah. Vera tucker. Football team took kevin jenkins. The bears took hometown hero. Greg newsom the second kotze acquitted. Pay titans eric. Stokes jets took gregory russo. Liam eichenberger to the steelers and then christian bar more to the jaguars It's going to be draft week next week. So we're gonna we're gonna do this. We're gonna finish the mock draft before they do the actual draft. I think that's that's the way to go And we still have plenty of interesting teams here. We also have the teams that don't have first round picks we are going to assign just completely random prospects to like the seahawks at fifty six and the texans at sixty seven which He's always. It's always everyone's favorite part of the show are the texans. Are the texans gonna fix this franchise with pick number sixty seven because they'll definitely do it And we'll figure out who that savior going to be dig it ri connor good work in room this week and we will We'll see next week. I as captain the qb monday morning. Nfl podcast is connor or nbc. Gary gramling we are produced by shelby. Releasing hess is executive producer. A podcast is scott. Brody mark is america's editor of the mtv and andy is the founder of the tv nfl. Podcast be sure to subscribe to this speed as well as the feeds for the weak side. Podcast and the albert breer show there all for free on apple podcasts. And once you do subscribe please leave a rating and review for all of them. It really does help. Other people find the shows which are also available on spotify radio dot com stitcher dot com. And were ever else you. It's the podcasts.

raiders justin fields gus bradley jomar chase kevin jenkins trae lance connor kyle fuller parsons morag woodard football jalen waddell avera tucker patriots tucker Parsons Jon gruden jenkins trevor lawrence greg newsom
Episode #124  Satan vs. Kirby

Menace 2 Society Podcast

41:08 min | 1 year ago

Episode #124 Satan vs. Kirby

"It is Wednesday October fourteenth for Patriot subscribers. It is Thursday October fifteenth. For the rest of US I. Am Zach Smith welcomed Administer Sports. Episode gotTA. Talk. About probably the best not the probably the best game of the two thousand Twenty College football season to date right regular season game. Maybe at the end of the year, it might be the most the biggest game. It might be a preview to what we're going to see in Atlanta in December in SEC championship game. We just I just spent a ton of time really analyzing Georgia Alabama both sides of the ball, every position there film everything they do and I'm just. I'm hoping you guys are ready for this because it's going to be an epic game. It's GonNa be awesome and some of these Games we've been watching it been awesome I mean even like Tennessee Georgia was awesome for a half. I? Mean Oklahoma Texas as bad as both teams are that was awesome to watch. It was entertaining right? We have some entertaining college football going on right now and this game will not disappoint. So really looking forward to sharing my thoughts on on Nick Saban's Alabama, Crimson tide curb smarts Georgia bulldogs for the battle that's going down Saturday night. But before we talk about that, I want to let you know I've already mentioned it. I'm GONNA mention it again. The Ace on Lane is a Game Day Watch party. We're having on October twenty fourth down on campus. Right next to Varsity Club it's going to be ridiculous. I. Mean all you can eat great food all you can drink all kinds of options really going to really excited about about what we're doing Braxton Miller and I are going to be there along with other people look into a pre-game show. So we will be down there. If you're interested go to menace to sports, DOT COM and check it out. We have an article explaining it tickets are on sale in the shop. Make sure you grab your tickets come hang out with Braxton and I it's. Going to be a main I guess experience area, and then a balcony VIP bar area overlooking Lane Avenue in the horseshoe. So really really fired up about it interested in more info or partnering the ace on Lane at gmail.com tickets on sale minutes sports but. Real quick. We're GONNA take a message from one of our sponsors are supporters. We appreciate those of you that support those that support us. So we appreciate you one quick message from my bookie unless you've been living under a rock, you know the NFL is back and the NBA playoffs are in full swing, which can only mean one thing it's winning season it mybookie I don't know about you guys. But for me, a game is ten times more exciting when I'm putting my money on it. Sometimes I have a gut feeling about a matchup and sometimes I'm just betting on my. Team because they're my team regardless whether you've been betting for years or you're ready to play for the first time. My bookie is your best bet this season with the biggest online selection of bets and props they made it simple to win and easy to withdraw your cash right now, they've got a one hundred thousand dollars super contest for only ten dollars entry and they're giving away five thousand dollars in cash prizes. Every four weeks you'll be crazy not to invest in your sports knowledge with that kind of potential return on your investment. Ten dollars to win thousand. Signed me up shoot. You too can sign up at mybookie and if you use the Promo code menace to claim your one hundred percent deposit match all the way up to a thousand bucks that means you put one hundred dollars in and they give you another one hundred dollars. It's an easy way to jump start your bankroll NFL, NBA Mlb. They've got it all on tap and it's never too late to get started on your winning season exclusively at Mybookie as I said every time mybookie come on, you can get picked from us at a menace minister picks or on our Patriot Patriot dot. com slash minister picks, and then you get free money from my book with our Promo Code Menace what of what better in the world right? So are probably going to be a little bit shorter of an episode of stuff to talk about just some games that are going on I wanNA talk about him for a minute and then really want to dive in with both feet into this Georgia Alabama matchup, and then we'll get you out here. So I might actually make this show decide later on when I'm done with it but I might make might make this whole thing. Open to the public, just you guys can don't get get the experience the menace to sports experience, and we appreciate those of you that have been enjoying our full episodes for two dollars and ninety nine cents a month on Patriot dot com forward slash. Votes and for the rest of your fuck off I'm just kidding. Thank you for listening either way but enough about that nonsense, let's get to the show. You got. Back. Phoenix you'll be pleased to know this the last time on hosting. I. Don't care anymore. I'm joking I never did. No position to lecture the public about anything you know nothing about the real world. After the ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty-five, thirty, thirty, five, forty, forty, five, fifty, forty, five. Services. Back. A football guy. Lucky for me, the press combating speaking. But they are thought they were. Well we It's picked up by Michigan State Jalen Watts said that. The love. Get the fuck Outta here. It is episode one, twenty, four way towards two hundred I'm GonNa start playing in the two hundred episode right now we might do it on the moon. Some crazy shit. But here we are talking about some degenerates that I know really well, how `Bout Dan Mullen, the update on Dan Mullen. After the game, we played the audio. If you miss it last episode, you gotTa go back and listen because he was a petulant little baby after he lost the game starting complaining about crowds and how he wanted to to pack pack the stadium because the Florida governor came out and said, they could have full crowds and he wants to stadium packed and he put the. Pressure on the administration and this son of a bitch, his team cove it nineteen players test people tested positive in the Florida program for Corona and now the Games postponed with Lsu. So yeah, you packed stadium. Yeah. Having a game you dumb, Fuck Oh, my God what an idiot I the apologize backtracked. Then he promoted health officials recommendations it was like what a joke like. If you'RE GONNA IF YOU'RE GONNA go on the public and shit like that. You'd better back it up. Right. You better stand firm in your stance I mean the reality is this. Though all I'm sure all nineteen people were a symptomatic didn't even have a clue that they were deathly ill possibly going to die without any symptoms. It's just too dangerous. I. Guess to Play I. Don't know I mean I. Think Everyone knows my opinion. I think he just let them play and move keep it moving if they're too sick to play and they don't play I don't think a positive asymmetric test is anything to worry about. But who am I I'm no doctor but it did shed light onto one thing I want to know why it was canceled. Why was the game castle because the players Caught Cova? Team is going to have some players catch covid that doesn't mean you cancel the game right and I've been saying all year in less. It's Kyle trask would've Kyle trask and kyle pits were to the ones that caught the covert. Florida's going to do anything in their power to not play that game no way they wanNA play even Lsu who's down as far as they are this year they don't WanNa play that game with a couple of star players. But here's the SEC rules. You tell me which one you think that Florida could not field. The first is they have to have fifty three players on roster doesn't say scholarship players fifty three. Players on roster out of one, hundred, five, they didn't get fifty cove positives. So they have that check they need to have one quarterback. So unless you tell me that the whole quarterback room tested positive, I'm calling bull shit they need to have seven offensive lineman healthy and available to play with one of those seven being a center bullshit. All their centers caught Kovic stop it. They need to have four D. Lineman healthy. Which one did Florida not have? I. Think this is complete. Horsh it nineteen kids catch for Covid, the rules SEC put out said play ball corentin those nineteen and play ball wh- ruling my missing because I brought it up because I said coaches are going to do whatever they can to make sure that if Trevor Lawrence Gets Cova the game gets postponed shit if he's the only case. And I was thinking about fifty three players on your Rosser. Let's say you got twenty, eighty, five scholarship kids twenty of the scholarship kids catch cove it will now you start contract tracing even if they didn't have contact to make it higher, maybe kick all the walk off the team. So they're no longer on the roster, and now you're down to fifty two players and you can you can cancel or postpone. Just wild wild like I want to know. I think they should have come out and say we postpone this game. Can't say because Florida was at a disadvantage no shit. What about one another team has a backup linebacker or there or guy on kickoff team. Test positive now, all of a sudden that's he's not as important so we can play it. I WanNa know what's the reason what's the decision making here who's deciding that it's postponed and what reason is it because the starting quarterbacks out bullshit that can happen to anybody and it's not in your rules sec you wanted to be the big bad wolf that didn't postponed shit and didn't do anything to cancel the season you were going to fight through Kovic let's see you got the rules. What's what's new? What happened why? Why did Florida get to postponed the game I want to know everyone wasn't the country wants to know. But the reality is we know what it is. They probably had a couple of key players. got a positive test, and now here we are. Now they postponed the game because said, we got a lot of covert. We got we got a mask ovid infection. other topic is and I hit hammered pretty hard in the last episode. So I, I, just WanNa throw one faculty fact out there that I didn't even think about when I put the episode out on. Tuesday but. This. Is Texas Toast Tom One I think he's fired. I think right now unless he pulls off miracle run to end the season and possibly maybe win the big twelve or make it to a decent bowl and upset someone in the bowl game unless they have a year like that I think he loses two Okie state probably loses another one loses a bowl game and I think Texas Toast? Tom. Herman is burned toast in his is no longer on fire because he's not sitting in the seat as. The head coach at Texas, that's what I believe is going to happen. I, do and I don't think urban stake in the job. So they're my predictions for the end of the year and I know Texas fans probably will rejoice over Matt Campbell higher or a Luke fickle higher. It's probably not luke he doesn't fit but we'll talk about that. When time comes who I think would be great for that job but I think the jobs going to open. because. I saw the stat if Texas never fired Mac Brown or whatever you WanNa say let him go whatever whatever it was. If they never fired Mac Brown and he repeated his six worst seasons that he ever had at Texas from twenty fourteen to twenty, two, thousand, nine, Texas would have seven more wins than they do today. You Talk About Rut Row Yikes. They would have seven more wins today if mack Brown replicated his six worst seasons in his entire tenure at Texas, which he wouldn't have done, he would have done better than he would not have parlayed the these last six seasons as his worst six. He had a better year one of them right they would still have seven more wins than they today. How about that? Oh Man I think he's done. He's toast I. Think it's over I really do and that'll be rich I'm GONNA start looking into candidates who I would be a great candidate there and who I think will be in the running I I mean, I, do think. Campbell will be in the running I. Don't know that he's a perfect fit he's in Ohio Guy Mid West Guy. And Tom was I guess a pseudo Texas guy because he was there I don't know. It's like saying a Florida. Guy Because I was at Florida for four years or five years as a G., A and quality control that doesn't make me a Florida guy you have to play there be an assistant. They're like be a coordinator there. That's a Texas guy. So he they need a Texas guy more story but. The next topic I want to talk about which we don't talk about enough on this show and I've had some messages about it. We're GONNA do some Mac segments moving forward especially for some Maxon on Tuesday night gotta get fired up about that. But there is some legitimate teams in the group of five and my question is can a group of five team cracked the CFP because right now this a train wreck the national gives a train wreck. Florida, loss they I guess the only way that they. Only. Normal thing that could happen is Clemson undefeated makes it well, how state undefeated makes it? Whoever wins this Saturday between Bam Georgia? The other one has to win an SEC championship game and then they both make it or an organ goes undefeated and makes it if any of any of those happen then it's a fairly normal year but do you really expect it to be normal in twenty twenty i? Don't I expected to be like Cincinnati versus Versus Coastal Carolina for the National Shayeji of obviously I'm being facetious but can't group of five teams CFP I dunno know if people know this I certainly didn't know it entirely but there are a handful of undefeated teams in the group of five right now one of them. is, SMU at number seventeen and they just gonNA talk about a couple match-ups coming up and then I'm GonNa talk about one kind of in depth smu number seventeen, undefeated number eight Cincinnati on October twenty fourth day of our event of our watch party at ace on lane down on on campus, they will be battling it out to remain one of the only unbeatens in the group of five. So that's going to be an awesome game for luke fickle the other ones Byu Byu if you study their analytics I haven't watched their films so don't don't take don't act like I don't want to act like I'm some Byu expert I'm honest I'm an honest guy on this show at least. I studied their analytic so and they are like number one in the country in offense passing offense grade wise like everything they are. They must be killing it and like I said I'm not I didn't dive into their film I just know that they got a big game Friday night Houston I'm excited. I'm excited to watch a Friday night game Byu Houston should be a decent match up the other one is my former stomping grounds. I was a receiver coach special teams coordinator there. My first job in twenty ten is the Marshall Thundering herd are they for real because this weekend they play Louisiana, Tech. The top two teams in conference USA Martial Law Tech this weekend huge huge huge game for Doc Holliday in the thundering herd. So I will be watching that one also probably give you an update next week on our wrap up show or what? What should I call it the post. Game Review show that I do earlier in the week but the game of the Week in. Group, of five is the battle of unbeatens, the sun belt showdown, and it's tonight on Patriots. So sorry, rest of us this'll be slightly outdated for you. If you even watch the game if not, you're gonNA, hear about it and maybe go back and look how it went. But the giant killers play tonight Jamey Chadwell Coastal Carolina standing at three Oh coming. Off Their opening week upset of less miles in the Kansas rock them sock them Jayhawks play Billy Napier's number twenty first ranked raging cajuns of Louisiana who are also three and upset Iowa state and opener obviously a much bigger win beating Iowa state considering they're ranked but this is going to be awesome and billionaires defense is led by one of the future defensive stars. In, a coaching World Patrick Tony, you need to check him out. His defense has been phenomenal but I'm calling the upset. You want to know what I think. I'm saying Coastal Carolina knocks off the old raging Cajun's I. Think. Coastal. Carolina pulls off the I think the the Radio Louisiana Lafayette is like eight point favorites I think co Carol Carolina knocks it off. Here's why. Coastal Carolina is the highest grade team in the Sun Belt Ninety two percents ninth in America Grade Wise on offense. I'm sorry the entire team. Highest graded offense in the conference and eighty six percent number five in America they have the third highest graded pass passing offense in America not the Sunbelt in America there behind only Byu in Alabama as far as passing offense goes grade wise and they had the second highest graded defense in the conference I. Think this is going to be I think Carolina's GonNa win this game. They only have twenty-five missed tackles in three games averaging single digits and I'm sorry this Louisiana, Lafayette, they have twenty five tackles on the season. So their defense is solid, but they're taking on the country sixth highest graded quarterback on all the visions all conferences Grayson McCall, he has been really good on their stage. I'm not gonNA say he's better than Mac Jones or on that. But on their stage, he's been phenomenal. And what do I always say it's consistency right under pressure over ten yards. That's it. So he has averaged two hundred, forty, two yards a game nine to one touchdown to interception ratio seventy seven percent adjusted completion percentage almost sixty percent over ten yards fifty four percent on deep balls. So fit now, I almost fifty eight percent over ten yards sixty four percent under pressure. He's eighty percent versus blitz five TV's on sixteen completions vs blitz he dice his blitzes up. They also get after the quarterback Coast Carolina's fifty-nine pressures in three games thirteen sacks for number six in the United States of America. So I had to give you a little a little sun belt. Love right a little coastal Carolina loves so have you noticed Coastal Carolina fans make sure you tag them shout them out and if you know L. A. U. L. Fans if they end up winning, don't tell them. I talked about it don't tell me don't tell him I predicted that. Also man, it's not matching, but it sunbelt action on a Wednesday night and we're here for it. So get into the main slate of college football just kind of some updates number one clemson at Georgia tech it'll be a be a blowout number four, Notre Dame at home against Louisville should not be a contest number five North Carolina Florida State Florida State's terrible. So if North Carolina stumbles, they were never relevant in the first place. But we'll definitely give you some updates on on what we learn from those games after the weekend. The other thing that I thought was hilarious Ohio state moved up to number five in coaches pulled this week from number six apparently had a huge week for themselves. This past weekend clearly playing no games and doing nothing they just moved up in the rankings. I can't understand how people are not ranking them at one or two or three. Top, three they're better than on paper. They're better than everyone in the country except for Alabama and and Clemson. Right? Maybe you could throw George in the mix but putting them at five behind Notre Dame? That's comical. That's a joke. But anyways enough about. Games that don't shouldn't matter I. You can't even say that don't matter anymore. They couldn't had her some. Some of these games mattered like way too much. But let's talk about this matchup number three Georgia at number two Alabama Tuscaloosa Alabama probably a crowd of twenty five thousand people. Scream as loud as they've ever screamed. I WANNA start with Alabama on offense and it all starts with the man the myth the legend Mac John's the number one quarterback in America this for the best quarterback playing on Saturdays not projected in the NFL playing on Saturdays Mack Jones is the best he has been playing the position better than anyone including you Trevor Lawrence he has. Let's just talk about this the number one quarterback in America when he's kept clean with no pressure ahead of Trevor, lawrence eighty two percent completion percentage that's absurd I mean eight out of ten passes. If they're not getting pressure on him, he completes it he's also the lease pressured quarterback in the country. So he has only been pressured in three Games, twelve total times that means they're doing a great job protecting him he's getting the ball out of his hands and he's just icing everyone up number one in. America? and. The least pressured. Fifth in America when he is pressured what I say great quarterbacks live in the plus ten throws and then under pressure when he is pressured, he sixty percent completion percentage, he's the number one deep ball passer in the country almost seventy percent adjusted completion percentage on deep balls. For how about this? He has four, hundred, forty, three yards and four touchdowns on deep balls this year already, and we're gonNA compare them in a minute to to. To Georgia's quarterbacks who has one hundred, twenty, four yards on one touchdown. So he has almost quadrupled production on. Deep Balls as that's embedded us that's I mean that's huge deep ball quarterbacks plus ten yards under pressure. That's what I want to know. And the reality is they have the ninth best pass blocking Oh line in the country right now and they're going against the eleventh highest graded pass rushing defense at Georgia's defense their second sec with ten sacks. So they begin after the quarterback, but the real challenge this game on this side of the ball is the test for what I believe. Now, not what I believe I know is the best secondary in. The country Georgia has the fourth highest graded coverage unit in the country and I think they're phenomenal at the corner positions that safety I think we're going to go through it here in a minute, Eric Stokes Tyson Campbell's studs at Corner Richard Account the best safety in college football. But I'm really fired up to watch this match up. This is going to be the most exciting thing probably all year until the playoffs. Is Jalen Waddell and devante Smith versus Eric Stokes Tyson Campbell. As, well, let's take a look at it. Jalen waddles the number three highest Gra, he has the third highest yards per route run in America yards per route run is if I run ten routes and I get the ball four times, take all my yards. That's how many yards per outrun it's how productive are you it's critical and evaluating receiver. So he's the third highest yards per route run in America he's tied for number one in America with Kirs Jackson the slot for Georgia. In yards per route running the slot. so He's been killing it in the slot. He's the number one deep ball receiver in the country he has a one hundred percent hit percentage when Mack Jones throws Jalen Waddell a deep ball let's just insane I know it's only three games but man is no one else in the country has that nine, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty, two targets for eighty, six percent. So Jalen Waddell is a force to. Be reckoned with on the other side. DEVANTE SMITH HE's number ten in American yards per outrun. So to top ten I'm going to get a minute. There's not only two but two top ten receivers in the United States of Americans forest production. Now, here's a key stat for devante. Smith to watch for he's over four on deep balls this year he's not hitting they're not the chemistry is not there he's not effective at bringing in deals Twenty seven to thirty three targets for eighty two percents. So he's had a phenomenal start to the year. He's not hitting deep balls which he needs to do, and that's not his mo but the two of them have caught for thirty five passes for first downs. Thirty five times the chains had to move because one of them caught a pass and that's compared to George Pickett secures Jackson from from Georgia, they only have eighteen say have almost twice as many chains being moved after catching the ball. Here's the other side note John Michie who's Alabama's third receiver is number six in yards per route front so they have. Three of the top ten receivers as far as production through three games. No one else in the country has two receivers in the top ten Bama has three. That's absurd. But they are going to get their biggest test of the year Eric Stoltz and Tyson Campbell our first round talents at corner. How this Eric Stokes Georgia starting corner has allowed to catches on the year so far for twenty two yards, zero touchdowns he's defended. The second most passes in the country, right PB, US interceptions, etc. He has the he's number to an American pass defended and he leads the country with two interceptions in three games stud absolute stud. And then Tyson, Campbell, that's the this is his test, his true test he's their top corner. He's the guy they put on the the wide receiver one. So He's the guy that will probably be on Jalen Waddell will be able to stop either of those future NFL receivers. That's the question he's given up seven at thirteen targets sixty seven yards on the year no touchdowns or I'm one touchdown. So Tyson Campbell's played outstanding he's. Been Wide Receiver one Eric Stokes has been locking down wide receiver to and so they both our top ten in America on passes defended this year, and then you add in Safety Richard Count he's also top ten. Now it's about three of the top ten defensive backs in America going against the three most three of the most productive receivers in America. This is the matchup that we're here to see man nfl talent on NFL talent. Who is going to win, and then the next question is, how will nausea Harris and this Bama rushing attack fair against the best run rushing defense in the United States of America Alabama has a second most potent rushing attack in the SEC averaging over five yards a carry. Nigeria's himself as averaging over six. He's six point, six yards per carry. Rushing attack has been dynamic if you watch the Ole miss game or really any of their games there gashing people, and here's another interesting fact for you. You know I love throwing on my interesting facts when I studied these teams I noticed this and I went and looked at the analytics almost half forty eight percent of Najji rushing yards are outside runs to the left. He averages seven point seven yards per carry on the perimeter. So the key for Bama is to get him on the perimeter. The for Georgia is to not let him run on the perimeter make him stay between the tackles. He still really good in between the tackles, but at least he's not as dynamic. My interesting fact about the run game, but Georgia presents a problem for Obama in the run game, they have the number one defense in America. They're allowing thirty eight yards per game one, point four, nine yards per carry. They've given up zero rushing touchdowns. No one has scored on the ground against Georgia, and if you don't remember they held Tennessee to negative yards rushing. This is going to be a battle, the and I. There's a couple of keys to victory the first key the victory is how well can Alabama run the ball against this defense? How how efficient can they be run the ball? The other the other thing to see on this side of the ball is Georgia's Secondary Bama's receivers I think it's even playing field. Those are the two things in this facet of the game that will dictate. How this facet impacts the overall. Now let's flip sites. Let's go in Georgia's on offense and Alabama's defense it all starts to meet and I'm GonNa get to why you'll see why in a minute it all starts with the run game. And that's not every game. A lot of people say it always starts up front bullshit. It doesn't always start up front as long as you pass pro, you can start on the perimeter that's that's Horse Shit but this game is going to start in the run game the the key to Georgia winning this game and I'm GonNa be honest. It doesn't look good is that they're rushing attack has to improve against a solid run defense kind of. They have the eighth best rushing offense in the SEC right now three point seven per carry Zamir white as talented as he is has been very disappointing so far he's six he's the sixty eighth. Best big-play running back in America. Those are runs over fifteen yards. He has the sixty eighth. That's terrible. He averages under four yards per carry. He's just not dynamic. He's eleven forced missed tackles on the season in three games. Some of these running backs that I've talked about on my show have been having that in one game I mean, we had a guy last week at fifteen tackles in one game he forced. Zoom. Your white has forced eleven on the year. What does that an average of less than four per game is not good enough for Georgia they just had the Andrea Swift, who is a monster, and now we we have to let down to Samir White. Here's the other thing that I thought was very interesting. He's not a dangerous back in space. He's had twenty one runs outside the tackle box right inside the tackle box inside runs to me outside runs or ones that either bounce or designed to go outside. He's at twenty one outside runs averaging two point seven yards per peron. Nausea Harris Average is seven point seven in-space. He averages two point seven. He can't make people miss and he can't break tackles. That that's the key here. If if all of a sudden that can spark and show up, they got a chance. They also don't use them in the throw game at all I mean hardly he has four targets on the year in the three game compare that to Travis at the yen or De'andre Andrea Swift last year or even nause nauseous has eight targets in the past game twice as many targets in the past game and by the way Alabama has far better options in the past game than Georgia outside of one guy. Now here's now Alabama is in the bottom half of the country in run defense and you can thank Joey freshwater for that or I'm sorry lane kiffin whichever alias we're going with today you can thank him for that because his temple uptempo no, just get gassed them and they ran the shit out of the football but here's why they need to run the football. Here's why it's so important not only because it is important to win the game, but it's important to set up play action. Stetson. Bennett is an average quarterback I've said it all year. Here's where he's decent. He's the NE He's. The top quarterback in the country that benefits from play action pass concepts what I mean by that is his completion percentage on non play actions. So dropbox is fifty eight percent on play actions it goes up to seventy three percent. So he has a fifteen percent higher completion percentage in play action they gotTA. They gotTA RUN RUN ACTION WHY? What does that do when you run action? If you've got a good run game at least if you run action, it opens up zones, it opens up men and it's way easier to throw to. That's how that's why Tim Tiba was so good in college because our our run game was ridiculous in our play action off of it was even more ridiculous. So he was literally what urban used to call helmet throws the guy. So wide open the quarterback take off his helmet and throw his helmet to the guy. That's that's what he needs for them to be successful. He needs a good run game so they can set up play action. They also need to protect his ass because he sixty seven percent when kept clean and thirty, seven percent under pressure thirty percent drop off when he's under pressure here's the good news. They've done a good job of that protecting Stetson Bennett the tenth best pass blocking line in the country versus the twenty seventh grade. Pass. Rush Unit. In Alabama's defense. They have seventy seven qb pressures, which is good but only five sacks through three games. So Georgia has twice as many sex they're disrupting the quarterback far better but Alabama needs to get pressure on this kid steps in Bennett they have to. Now. Talking about Obama's defense. Obviously, we all know last week they had an atrocious game. This tackles it was a nightmare against against ole miss, but they only had eighteen in the previous two games. So expect that to be fixed in this game and also Georgia's not that dynamic outside of curious Jackson. I would bet you Alabama's in single digits tackles problem being Georgia had three last week so It's going to be a big a big point of emphasis for Alabama. They gotta get guys on the ground, but I expect that to be fixed they were averages single digits per game had a nightmare game against ole miss because a tempo exhaustion just momentum. But here's here's the other thing I'm excited to watch George. PICKENS. Is Georgia's. Dynamic outside receiver I guess you could call them that he hasn't been that dynamic. He's been just okay but he's he's going to have his hand full. He's GonNa have his hands full with probably the best corner. He'll be the number one corner on NFL draft boards next bring Patrick certaines junior or the second whatever he goes by now he's number three in America on snaps per reception that means Every forty four snaps a coverage someone catches the ball on him. So this game is seventy plays. There's only one ball caught on Patrick's retain. juiced up. He's allowed three catches on seven total targets for thirty eight yards on the year so far. And George Pickens is he's up for the task. Now he has great hands. He knows drops on the one hundred percent catch percentage actually him in. Kirs. Jackson their dynamics slot both have zero drops on the year. So he's catching the ball. Well, but he's not been a dynamic route runner. He doesn't get real. He doesn't get great separation. He's fifty seven percent catch percentage eight to fourteen total targets. He's one for five on deep balls three for eight over ten yards thirty seven point, five percent of the time he's talked over ten yards he catch the ball that's I mean that's that's below average well below average. When he lines and the other question is when he lines up opposite `certain certaines not going to travel which Bama usually doesn't travel. He will have another future NFL starter injust job on. Covering. This. Cornered number thirteen in American snaps perception. So they have one guy that's number three Josh jobs number thirteen every twenty six snaps. There's a reception, five catches on eleven targets for thirty, two yards the corner play in this game between the duo at Georgia and the duo at Alabama is going to be insane. You're not going to see a collection of four corners on the field that are going to be better than in this game you're just not. It's going to be amazing. Both of these corners have allowed. How certaines allowed six yards after catch Joe. has allowed eight yards after catch when that what does that? Tell you that when they do get beat or when a guy does catchable they're right there in coverage and they make the tackle they don't gain extra yards. So they're just a step away from from breaking that pass up just a step away from disrupting the throw. It's it's phenomenal. The X factor for Georgia is curious Jackson if you are familiar with him, you'd better get familiar with him. He is Mr takeover mode. He's the key to Georgia throwing the ball. He's the number one receiver in America yards per route run. We talked about it production right? The number two graded receiver in America three for four on deep balls nine for twelve on balls over ten yards. Seventy five percent. That's more like it pickens. He's double George pickens on throws over ten yards. And he is the X. Factor in this game. If The other part of this that I haven't mentioned yet is because he cares owns the middle of the field. He's a slot. He's all over the place and in Alabama's GONNA be without Jordan battle, they're starting their better, their best safety Jordan battle I've talked about it before he's going to be missed the whole first half because of his targeting call last week if you don't remember me talking about it. So they're going to be without one of their best players on defense and cures Jackson. It's going to he's going to terrorize the middle. It's going to be interesting to see what Nick Saban's game plan to try to stop him is you're not going to stop them but slow him down maybe. and. Here's what is the less talked. Everything I talked about if you've got a guy that knows football, he's GonNa talk about that stuff. The less talked about factors in this game that people will not tell you the first is Georgia has a monster punter in Jake Kamata. These a fourth best graded putter in the country he's averaging fifty one point four yards per punt with zero returns. So. Here's just want to dive down this rabbit hole for one second. So, our philosophy on pump was always forty to forty five yards with a four point five second hang time. So we can cover enforce a fair catch that was it. We didn't want them to boot it sixty yards because we didn't we couldn't get down the field right if you give me a three point, nine second hang time fifty, five yards ain't nobody getting their down the field right? If you have any kind of hold up. So that was our whole deal, right Bam, this this kid at Georgia is ridiculous. He has the third highest hang time in the country. At four point, three seconds, and then he's putting the ball on average fifty, two yards. That is absurd that means guys are getting down the field force. If catches they've had zero returns. Here's why that is important Alabama's Punter Sam Johnson averages thirty four yards per punt. That's almost twenty yard difference in field position when both both teams punt back and forth. That's huge. I mean, you're talking about you do that two three times. That's a sixty yard change in field position just because they have a more dynamic punter that is the big factor here. And then Georgia has a very dynamic kick returner Kenny Macintosh. Third in America right now averaging forty three yards per return. Alabama better kicked out in end zone. They have to kick in the end zone in force touchback on the Flipside Devante Smith is averaging twenty one yards per return. So half again, Georgia's. Those hidden yards that no one talks about. The issue I don't think Alabama is going to be able to kick in zone because there kickoff specialist chase Allen has not had the leg to do it. He only has six touch backs on twenty three kicks. So Watch out for a big play on an Alabama kickoff in Georgia kickoff return I'm calling it now, and if it happens, oh my gosh, you guys thought I was obnoxious before you're never going to hear me up. It's to be it's going to be. Really. Really. Interesting to see. and. So those are my. Talk about factors of the game. Here's my conclusion. Alabama has a far better run game. If they can run the ball against this stout door Georgia defense that's a check in their in their box they have a deeper and much more dynamic group of skill on the perimeter. Kieres. Jackson is the only player on Georgia's offense as far as running back quarterback. Receiver tight end. He's the only one in the entire Georgia offense that would play for Bama right now. Georgia has the better run defense but I see Bam bouncing back from the Kiffin thrashing and I think Alabama stops. Impotent run game that Georgia's bringing on the field in Saturday in Tuscaloosa. The end of the day I think Alabama Wins Football Game I. think There's going to be a well-thought hard fought battle but I, think it's GonNa come down to those things that I mentioned those keys to the game I wanNA see. We got to see Alabama's defense bounce back great opportunity to do that against a putrid run game and really one extremely dynamic player in tears Jackson. That's that's going to be the thing that has to happen and I'm excited to watch Alabama's receivers against Georgia Secondary. It is going to be the tell tale of this game. So that's my analysis game of the week there you have it. Really excited to watch it I. Know You guys probably are. We'll. We'll definitely recap some more of these games on the on the flip side of this next week but also forgot to mention stay tuned. We have I'm doing a two part. Ohio. State slash big ten preview show. It's going to be an extra show this week and next week leading up to the start and kickoff for the big ten. Going to have some special guests on it's GonNa be awesome. So stay tuned for that tomorrow. If you're listening on Thursday that'll drop Friday and Patriot subscribers, you already know you're getting this show early, you'll get that show early you're going to get beyond the show call in show, and once the big ten kicks off, we're GONNA do a Sunday call in show every Sunday call in and Bitch Complain Moan about your team or your coach or whatever. We're going to do a caller show every Sunday once the big ten kicks off. So stay tuned for that. We're really fired. Up about what we've got going here, we got all of that going on all that with plus our website plus our events that we're doing plus we launched our gambling pillar right gambling advice pillar menace to sports minister picks is the gambling pillar. So check that out at minister picks on twitter Patriot Dot com forward slash menace depicts or if you want all in one, just go to our normal Patriot forward slash minutes sports and do the Combo tear but that's enough about that. So thank you for tuning in. Go Get your tickets hang out with Braxton an Amazon Lane. Twenty four ten am thank you for tuning and thank you for listening as always. I. Appreciate You I hope you're educated entertained and I. Hope you learn something if you didn't go fuck yourself San Diego. You Got Barbecue by. By beat. Phoenix you'll be pleased to know this last time on hosting I don't care anymore. I'm joking I never did. Brexit. You'll in no position to let the public about anything. You know nothing about the real world he'll run it after the ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty-five, thirty, thirty, five, forty, forty, five, fifty, forty, five. Back. A. Football guy. Lucky for me the press combating speaking this. But they are thought they were. Picked up by Michigan. Stakes Jalen. Watch Jack said. Get the fuck Outta here.

Georgia Alabama America SEC football Florida Kirs Jackson NFL US Texas lane kiffin DEVANTE SMITH Ohio Bama Braxton Miller Nick Saban Phoenix Tennessee Georgia coordinator
Mays on NFL Headlines, Week 1

You Better You Bet

15:59 min | Last month

Mays on NFL Headlines, Week 1

"It's nick costas and ken barclay on you. Better you bet from becky well our number two you better you bet tuesday costo sparkley bed l. Odyssey stations nationwide as part of bet. You'll odyssey dot com odyssey app youtube dot com slash autopsy sports and newly on twitch. Ken barkley second favorite app. Of course behind odyssey while third that rivers also has to to the twitch i would say is number three twitch dot tv backslash got to be a fourth-best one right. Yeah anything else. Anything else going on there. I don't know what apps you're into like instagram to twitter's unfortunately probably still up there. It's more like a sick pleasure at this point. I guess remember when you had in your twitter bio like spending spending no time on twitter these days now now you tweak the most out of everyone on the show now spending lots of time on twitter has actually no sports on night makes a little tough all right so again. Our number two. If you better you bet. We've got the power hour coming up. Final hour of the show all our beds for tonight major league baseball bed q. Five-star plays in the five days of laki continue as kansas. Got a double digit underdog. He likes this weekend in college. Football absolutely can't wait for that or three days or coming in momentarily continuing with the los angeles chargers. And the las vegas raiders in the afc west right now. We are pleased to welcome into you. Better you bet one of our absolute favorite guests when it comes to talking all things national football league and that is the great robert mays from the athletic does a great job hosting the athletics. Nfl podcast writer for the athletic on twitter at robert mays. Robert welcome back to you better. You bet we love to have you nick pastas cam barclay bet q. L. on this tuesday. How are you how you guys are you guys doing. We're doing pretty good rubber. We just did a segment. We've been trying to preview about two or three teams per day on the show leading into the start of the season. I know you guys on the athletic. Nfl potter doing a lot of in previews and stuff as well. So a lot of afc west today is kind of been the theme so we just did the chiefs going to do. The chargers raiders coming up to the broncos yesterday. Why don't we just start with kansas city. And then we can. We can kind of get your thoughts on the breaking news that we have but just did a lot of chiefs discussion dick. And i were trying to figure out you know where where where are the the chinks in the armor right whereas whereas the opportunity for candidates to slip compared to the past three years is this as rock-solid of a team as we've seen with whatever thirty forty wins the last three seasons any expectation for you this year that the chiefs could could be slightly down or what are your expectations for them. Offensively it's hard to see that because the one thing that could torpedo this team like we saw last year offense one injuries offensive line issues and their to keep it pretty much every single position. They're starting on me. Their backup offensive line is pretty much starting off the wine from the super bowl so every single guys been swapped out for an upgrade. It pretty much every single position. So they've insulated themselves from that problem and that's clearly intentional. I would almost promise you that. Andy reid and names the gm's name which escaping me right. Now i'm so tired redeyebeets. That'd be an indie lookback group and said that's the one thing that can slow us out and they weren't going to let that happen again job as we saw the investments their defense. We'll see what happens. This team continues to take dice rolls at corner and they went out and got up or shot brio and a couple of years ago might use that version this year. You know they. They'll get the production out of those spots with guys that we haven't played very well elsewhere. So that's the concern that you pretty much status quo when it comes to the personnel couple guys swabbed in and out of the college iran for example. But i think they're making this that that if our offense is the best offense again and nine times out of ten based on their personnel will be. We can figure the rest out later. We will get to the patriots in a second here with mack jones and cam newton and that'll situation but i do want to follow up on kansas city. Robert if you had to place a bet on the game right now. Kansas city's a six and a half point favorites sunday september twelfth at arrowhead against the cleveland browns. The total in that game is fifty three. But if you had to bet aside in that game. Kansas city behavior by six and a half against cleveland with that inexperienced right now at least right side of the offensive line against the browns pass rush. What would you do casey lang. Six and a half against cleveland. I think six and a half is a lot. I think the browns will be able to score with with the peace in that game. I think that's the biggest thing. Because i have a lot of faith in cleveland's offense i think when they get those receiving pieces back which we haven't seen all preseason that group altogether is gonna look pretty darn good and then second year under kevin's too fast so i think that's a pretty big number because i think both of these offenses have a chance to do a lot of works at night. I'm sure nick was very happy to hear that robert. Obviously as many as many people as can get on the cleveland browns bandwagon for week. One nick is very happy to hear that he likes cleveland as well in that game as nikola to we had some breaking news this morning we let our show with it. I'm sure i even saw you do like a very quick reaction video to it on your twitter timeline or your social media as well which was a very unexpected piece of news. Not that matt jones was going to be the starter but that mack jones was gonna be the starter because cam. Newton is no longer on new england patriots. So your reaction to cam no longer on the patriots and what. Your expectations are for a full season of mack jones. It's surprising in the sense that it's cam newton getting released. But he's got a reading the wall and what's been happening over the last couple of weeks. It's not that shocking. As soon as there was an opening for mac jones to take that job which there was the moment. That cam had to sit out for five days because of code protocols. And you get mac with the starters you get him join practices you get a longer look at him. And if they think he's the best guy for the job or it's close he was going to be the starter and then if he's going to be the starter you might as well released cam. Because having him in the building. I think is probably just a complicating factor for moving forward with mack jones. And he's a rookie with an mvp trophy on his wall. That stuff matters. And i think really giving jones the best chance to succeed probably included moving on from cam newton. Just having it be clean break. So we'll see happens now. I mean now. It's about the expectations or the offense mac. Jones's looked excellent in the preseason. I think that it's a really good situation for a young quarterback have one of the best offensive lines of the nfl. Their skill position group isn't high ceiling but there are a lot of useful pieces and i think they've fit well together. You know when. I'm looking at it and thinking about it. It three receiver sets when you have nelson sinaga or kendrick. Born and jacoby myers. those are complementary skill sets. You're the two tight ends that you can throw out there. Their running game is very good. And i think the mac jones could be solid at operating that type of ball. Control offense where it's all out of what we've seen from new england in the past timing decision making you know they're not gonna burn anybody down down the field but i'm curious to see what that offense looks like with mack jones. After all the editions they made the aussies reverend. I want to touch on another. Nfl team with a quarterback with the last name jones. And unfortunately that is my new york football giants with with danny dimes and watching the preseason game this weekend against the patriots watching andrew thomas struggle against joshu watching daniel jones struggle under pressure does not give me a lot of confidence in the new york football giants either in week one against denver or for the for the season where the wind total at bet rivers is seven right. Now for the new york football giants. Where are you at right now on the giants for this coming season. I think their defense could be excellent. I've a lot of faith in patrick. Graham i thought he did a fantastic job. There in his first season with the team without a ton to work with especially on the back end xavier mckinney was hurt me entire season that number two corner spot across from james bradbury was pretty much rotating rotating door of guys and it was not locked down. Now you have a number two corner in a door jackson. You have three safeties you can feel good about using with mckinney logan ryan and trivial peppers and. They have a ton of flexibility on the back end. I think that aziz ocho arias interesting piece out front for them. Even after losing galvin thomasson. I have faith in what they can look like me. This is a top ten defense. I wouldn't be surprised at all. I think that's absolutely they're stealing. The question is what happens on offense and they went out and spent sticker price. Money on kenny golladay. They used a first round pick on kind of a gadget e wide receiver and in those moves. And you're looking at the rest of the offense roster and thanking couldn't have used a little help on the offensive line. isn't it still an issue and that was always confusing to me and from all calix day like matt hurt as a third round developmental guy and they wanted to give him a shot at right tackle and obviously can't do anything about your top five pick at left tackle. You need to see what you have in him. So it felt like they were comfortable with the status quo. And i just don't know if i'd be comfortable with that status quo because it's a question mark and for all this money and all these resources. They started receiving core if they can't hold up in pass protection and none of it's going to matter robert. You mentioned the giants defense may be having the potential to be. Maybe a top ten unit. I know recently on one of your podcast episodes You guys talked about like who has the potential to be really like the elite defense. This season i always feel like that's a very difficult thing to predict. You know turnovers or a part of that. There are a lot of talented defenses. It's maybe not who you expect. Sometimes but nick. And i have had this conversation a lot like if you have one of the elite offensive or defensive units in the league on your team like you're a super bowl contenders chiefs offense bills offense rams defense. Those were the units last year. The kind of guided some of our decision making with what we wanted to do. You know on the defensive side of the ball. Who do you think has a chance to be really special this year. I think the broncos do i just think if you look at their talent top to bottom there are very few holes. They have underrated pieces on the interior of their defensive line. You get von miller back. Bradley chubb is a really good player. And this league right. Now is all about flexibility on the back end and dumps and they have it in ways that most teams in the league can't even imagine right now they have three corners that are starting their high quality players and they have a top ten pick as their fourth corner right now. I just think every single thing that adults is gonna throw at them. They're going to have an answer for that. Then and the defensive mind defensive coach that people around the league are trying to steal from right now. I mean the people talk about vic fangio with the reverence and for whatever reason it took a while for other coaches around the league to start looking to him as an inspiration but that has happened. I mean i think you're gonna see more and more of his principles sprinkled around the nfl. So you have the guy who is kind of coming up with the things most coaches find attractive and now he has the best defensive talent. I just think that's a recipe for a lot of good stuff. You better you bet ben q. Nick hostels cam barclay tuesday chatting the national football league with the great robert mays from the athletic robert. We've spent time over the last of days over the last couple of weeks talking about a team that we think has disaster potential for various reasons. That team is the indianapolis colts still plus one forty to in the afc south at our show sponsor but rivers with jacksonville and houston bringing up the rear in terms of the odds. Titans are the favourite right now. Where are you at right now on indie with all the problems at the colts have had this off season as we head into week. One against seattle. It's a tough start. Not even just a injured carson winston nelson but injuries to other guys as well right like ty elton damn tabby. They're supposed left tackle for the first month of the year. It's a rough situation. I mean almost feels like a lost year even before it starts. And i think they can still be a good team defensively. They play so incredibly fast. I mean there are teams beat on defense and just their overall play style on that side of the ball. I think is really attractive. But yeah the offense a huge question mark i mean it was gonna make pretty ideal circumstances for them to rehabilitate carson wentz his career and now those circumstances aren't ideal. He lacks off into weapons. Who knows been playing tackle for the first half of the season. So i absolutely think that the doors open for another team to step in and absolutely steal the afc south away from them. Yeah and nick. And i think are are on board with the colts as having a ton of disaster potential worst record in the. Nfl was a Was a conversation. We had the other day robert. I know a topic. You guys have done recently. The nfc north nick and i've touched on the bears and justin fields and the quarterback drama with them a lot but we ever really done a lot on the other. Three teams packers. Okay call the aaron rodgers drama and his return a little bit but not a lot on the vikings and not allowing the detroit lions so kind of break down the nfc north for us in general. How do you shaking out. Is it an obvious order a finish or do you think something crazy might happen. I mean i think it's an obvious order of finish in the sense that the packers at the top of the lines. I i just can't imagine a world where outside of ridiculous rash of injuries. The packers do not win the division. They're just so good on both sides of the ball and their questions about their offensive line. Now that aren't yard going to start the year on the pup list but being able to throw out jenkins out there and then figure out the other guard spots is a luxury that a lot of teams. Just don't house so it's not ideal start the season but i still think they can weather the storm better than a lot of other teams and then having rogers a huge help. So i'm defense. I mean this is a really good group. Their secondary after adding eric stokes in the first round you have two corners and potentially him in dire alexander that you feel really good about. Their safety was one of the best in the league. I think that that defense. They're going to be adopting under joe berry which is going to have one hundred principles about rams defensively saw last year fix their personnel extremely. Well so yeah. I think that for the most part. They're easily favorites. And then you look down at the lions and there's no world where i think they win more than five or six games. I think it's gonna be really hard to even get to. That number may have no firepower offensively if they can run the ball well. That'd be distracted their team but that's a total tear down and rebuilt. I don't think it really matters. How many games they win this year. I think it matters how they look. And whether there's some buying and with this team could look like moving forward with the writings in the bears. There's so many factors imply. I think the vikings offense of wine. It's such a huge question mark. you think. That after drafting aerosol. Why davis that it would be a so solved if not a strength. Now it's weakness heading into the season with rashad hill at left tackle and then udo at right guard at six tackle. They picked a couple of years ago and seems like for the seventh or eighth straight year. We're looking at the vikings offensive line and thinking where we going with this and if they take a step back offensively which i think they absolutely might the questions about the line. How healthy they were. Last year their skill position players the defense is going to need to pick up the slack and as much faith. As we have in mike zimmer i. I don't know how good that defense is going to be. Obviously the personnel is a ton better with the new hunter coming back and some of the additions they made on the back end but i think that team is very much no-man's-land with the bears it's all about seals right. I have such a little faith in the supporting cast offensively. The pass catchers outside of alan robinson the coaching staff. But if he's just great that who knows what he could drag them to this year. So that's it. I mean. I think that they're on the top and the bottom. It's pretty secure and that anything could happen with those other teams in the middle robert. Awesome stuff man. We love having you on you better. You bet. thank you very much for coming on. Check him out on the athletic. The athletic football podcast on twitter at robert may stay well. We'll talk to you soon. That's robert mays from the athletic joining us here on you better. You bet. Yeah the lions blinds cup. Rashad pyramid couldn't have been equipped asifa so the lack of firepower on the lions absolutely correct wore national football league conversation coming up in our number two three days continues next with the chargers. You better you bet from bacterial. Well download the app today to get the latest analytics to help. You beat the sports books.

mack jones robert mays twitter nfl browns mac jones patriots afc cleveland nick costas ken barclay Ken barkley nick pastas los angeles chargers cam newton football raiders chiefs nick casey lang
NFL Draft Q & A | Alex Barth | Patriots Beat with Evan Lazar

Patriots Beat

1:00:49 hr | 6 months ago

NFL Draft Q & A | Alex Barth | Patriots Beat with Evan Lazar

"Hey, everybody welcomed into a live Patriots, Q&A edition of the Patriot speed week before, or draft, what we nine days. Exactly before the draft Alex and we are to the point now where I think I've heard every single mock draft, every single stimulation of the first round. Not all the different variables. I think the Patriots have taken every position besides maybe an interior offensive lineman and like a punter or a kicker in the in mock drafts that I've seen I've seen wide receivers I've seen quarterbacks, I've seen defensive players tackle. Certainly just everywhere in anywhere that you could possibly think of right now. The Patriots roster doesn't look as bad as it did a few months ago certainly after their big free-agency. But not necessarily a roster that is rid of holes or needs for Infusion of talent in certain spots. So yep. All we know. Absolutely nothing about the Patriots. Intentions right now going into this draft and that's what my G already have NFL Network tweeted about 20 minutes ago, saying teams around the league. Pretty much have no idea what the Patriots have in store for the draft next weekend. And I think some of it is you can project ahead, right? A big reason, the Patriots are in the spot there in is and I wrote about this last week on 98.5 Sports Hub. Com under. You know, I just wrote about kind of the Patriots draft needs, but the overall concept to me is that famous fellow Trek, Mantra of you move on, from a player a year or two earlier than a year too late and part of that isn't just moving on from the player, but it's having the next guy set. It's being able to move on from that player a year or two early versus a year too late and a part of the way they've been able to do that is through the draft now with some of these less-than-stellar drafts the last few years they've gotten behind the eight ball at some positions. They kind of restocked and free agency, but now they're in a great spot where, you know, is cornerback as it sits today here on April 20th and immediate need no. But both of those guys are on one-year contracts so you're in a position where cornerback tackles and other position like that inside linebacker where they might not be immediate needs but they're crucial positions. There's good players at those positions. They're going to be able to get, so you have to consider those needs. Because again, if the Patriots want some sustained success here and to make the most of his free agency class the quarterbacks a need for this year, right now, we know that beyond that they're in a good position to start setting them self up for needs down the road and making sure they continue to be competitive and you continue to have a full roster here, for the next, three, four or five years, right? Exactly. This is moss draft. It does feel like plugging in holes for the 2022, roster and Beyond, right? And that's why I think a lot of these mock drafts, there's not a whole lot of positions right now on this Patriots roster that you log. And and we had this talk off the air about quarterback. Yeah he could a rookie quarterback like adjusting Fields come in and push Cam Newton immediately certainly but I don't think Bill Belichick is going to be one of those guys. That's gonna start a rookie right away and week one. So basically there's not a whole lot of positions are a lot of holes on this team where you could draft a player in the first round and assume that guy is going to get starter level snake in year. One, there's a lot of players positions instead, looking at 2022. And Beyond tackle, cornerback quarterback. Certainly that you can kind of check these boxes off now and get these guys in the building now and then when Trent Brown and Isaiah Wynn, decide to move on, let's say, or if they decide to move on from Stephon Gilmore or JC Jackson, they have Jeff Horne in the, in the, you know, waiting in the wings. So to speak for the sales or even say the same thing to tackle, too with Isaiah went, and Trent Brown and and you know kristjan terra's. All right, exactly. So those are off. Situations in the permutations. I think that we have talked about a whole lot on this show. We're going to get to some of your questions. So if you have questions, I've see a couple coming in already. Please drop those off the chat right now and we will get to as many as we can in the next hour or so. Alex there was I don't know if you saw the Tweet about a rumored picture from a decision maker that the Patriots and the Packers have discussed a trade for Jordan love. I can tell you right now at the tweet, that all you guys are seeing that started this rumor as a hundred percent fake. There is absolutely no truth to it whatsoever, being that exact trade. But I think the question between the Patriots and potentially trading for Jordan, love is not completely out of left field, right? I mean, the Packers need to make a decision with their quarterback situation. They're in a similar spot to what the Patriots were in with Tom Brady and Jimmy Garoppolo all those years ago so that job Sort of feels like a potential trade partner, but my whole thing is, is Jordan love. Got paid 26th overall last year, the Patriots had the 23rd pick in the draft and they passed. So if they wanted Jordan love, we could have just done this last year. And they could have drafted Jordan love a year ago. Yeah. Now that going up to 15 pick form according to this. So I don't, you know, I I wasn't very high on Jordan was last year. I didn't, I, I guess I'm still not, we haven't seen anything he'd lost the backup job, didn't he 200? What's with the guys? Always in the chat, talking about, Tim Boyle or whatever to boil. Yeah, yeah. So, I what, what if Jordan loves in his class? Where is he? Is? He QV 678, I mean, I think he's somewhere in that Kyle Trask, Kellen, Mond range from about. So draft, one of those guys at that point, don't give up the 15th pick to get a guy. You can get with the 46 pick. That's just poor Asset Management. Maybe they really love Jordan love and if they did, you know, I've said it off. You can't pay too much for quarterback, you really like, but like you just said, it's hard to believe they really like them when they essentially passed on last year. So I yeah, I think that, you know, we're, we're into the depths of silly thoughts here. And I don't waste your time with this one. Yeah, I agree. A hundred percent and again, I can tell you that the picture that's floating around. There is a hundred percent not really thought maybe I just got like a bad version of it, but it looked to blur to me to make out anything. Yeah, so I think the biggest things with Jordan love I would have him is kyubi six in this year's draft. If he were to come out this season change and and what you saw last year watching him and studying him was somebody that certainly has a lot of raw ability that you really really like but he was an absolute turn over machine in college. She had something like double-digit interceptions every single year of his collegiate career. As a starter they get nineteen. Maybe it was his last year in college. So this is somebody that was very, very turn over dead. Already, you know, prone right. Somebody that really turn the ball over a whole lot. Now he does have great arm down, he is an athletic guy. He has sort of that Patrick Mahomes type of style to him where he can throw off balance like the restroom any platform and get it 60 yards down the field and there are certainly a lot of things that like a lot of prospects you know you can cut out 5 6-7 throws from Jordan love last year off and stack it against a lot of quarterbacks in every class and be like this guy can make all the high-level throws compared to other people, right? So that that's something that I think you can say is attractive about Jordan love is is the play makes Jack and certainly athletic upside. But in terms of decision-making ball security, some of the other boxes at the Patriots look to check urine and you're out of that spot. He doesn't really fit that mold of what they would typically look for in a QB. And at this point, I mean, if you're going to have to trade 15 even if it's a swap, if it's 15 and 429 and Jordan love, I mean, why waste your time And I fell in mind this cold draft Davis Mills. Those guys are pretty much the same exact thing I would say at this point from Jordan, love, besides maybe Jordan Lopez a little bit more arm Talent than those two guys, but I don't think it's a huge separation between those two types of prospects. And it's the only difference would be the fifth year option, right. So even if you pick that up, it's a four-year deal cuz of years already found on that contract versus the four years for, for molander Trask. So I, yeah, I I can't see any. The only reason I can see is if they really, really liked them and all the evidence tells us they do. Yeah. I, it's not in that first-round value now. They could swap third or fourth round pick for Georgia. I've been having a different conversation, but if anything, like, balding Packers game in the Packers are going to train somebody, they just use the first round pick on like this isn't, I don't think this is a Josh Rosen situation where they're going to just sell him for a Monumental loss a year after taking him out. I don't think that home You might have better odds of an Aaron Rodgers, not here in New England, but Aaron Rodgers moving in a, in a year from now, from Green Bay, then you might have Jordan. Love moving at this present time right now. All right, let's go to this. Next question about Josh McDaniels, I definitely want to know where this stuff about Tebow, cuz let's hope that it doesn't go that down any road like that. But Josh, McDaniels is involvement in this decision making process here with the quarterback. We know he was at Alabama. Now back Jones wasn't the only guy that worked at Alabama. Ready? Had the receivers he had nausea Harris. He was at home to watch Mac Jones. He was at Justin Fields as a showcase last week, the throwing session alongside Dave Ziegler. So obviously Josh McDaniels is voice is being heard at the table at the quarterback position. I guess the question that we can spin it as is how important is his voice and how much should he have in terms of say of who they draft moving forward here. Well, if dead That the kind of belief is true that he's going to be the next head coach and this is going to be his team and whatever it is three to five years. I think he should have a huge State as his quarterback. He may be part of it right? Cuz there was that story from I forget if it was Christopher price or Jim McBride was one of the globe guys that telling Mom has been texting with Josh McDaniels. He's been talking since the Senior Bowl so long if he's doing that, I think he's very involved and I think we know that he likes mon. It doesn't mean monsters favorite. He might be texting other guys and those guys just you know the stories not out there but yeah it's nice McDaniels is is very involved in in regards to the Tivo thing. I I I will touch on that and I get that hesitation and I certainly valid I'm not going to dissuade anyone from feeling that way. I just don't think there's a Tim Tebow in this. Well, there's a Tim Tebow in this draft but he's not. He doesn't have the same height train, it's Ian book. But our Ellinger. You know, both of those guys are kind of. I am Jared plays more like Tim Tebow right? Like an athlete playing quarterback. I think part of the well he books more like because they're both terrible quarterbacks but I think that the the draw with Tebow wasn't football skill. It was the leadership. It was that like Josh McDaniels thought he was getting a core like a captain. He thought he was going to get a guy to come and get ten fifteen year, captain in the football skills would be enough to justify it. That's what I think that pic was in that guy. I'm not saying none of these quarterbacks have leadership abilities but the guys are the best leaders in this draft are also the best quarterbacks, right? Whether it's Matt Jones with Justin feels like these guys could have made a locker room but they also don't have the throwing motion of a pitcher in the middle of Tommy John surgery. So I'm not too worried about the Tivo thing because I don't think in this specific case it's an issue off. If they take, if they take, Sam ehlinger Orion book in the third round, you can bring this clip back up and call me an idiot. That's fine. I just don't see it in this draft, right? And I think the question really was more also geared towards the fact that Josh McDaniels has in the past been kind of gravitated towards mobile. Quarterbacks outside of Tom Brady of course right in this guy's name that he is typically favored. At least in rumored wise favored, mobile QBs like a Tim Tebow like a Lamar Jackson Josh. McDaniels was apparently although they feel it's not Lamar Jackson, he is he can move around a little bit and the Patriots. Apparently really liked Baker Mayfield and that draft. So does that really matter? I mean I guess maybe in terms of the Mac Jones conversation, it could matter a little bit. But so many of these quarterbacks from fields to Lance to Monde. They're they're these guys are mobile. A lot of these guys are mobile home. I don't know if it's necessarily going to be a number one, sort of argument of Josh, McDaniels needs a mobile quarterback. But if he does want a mobile quarterback, there's plenty of them in this draft to pick from New Jersey and all from the first three or four rounds of the draft at some of those guys. I just mentioned, you could go and get if you really are infatuated with having a guy that can run, you can get Jamie Newman in the fourth round, right? You know there's plenty of options here for mobile QBs. If you wants to go that direction, should the Patriots go that direction and certainly where the league is going? You know, at least players quarterbacks that can crash outside a structure or on what's called? Second reaction plays. That's the big thing, nowadays is when the scheme breaks down and you're not running the offense with the timing and stuff like that and and everything goes to crap, what can the quarterback do then to create a play? Can you move around? Can you work the pocket? Like a Tom, Brady going to move around like a Patrick Mahomes. You know what what's his card to throw off? When everything is in perfect, right? And that's a big sort of thing about quarterbacks as we Scout them this year and it's becoming a more and more popular kind of buzz topic of okay. Mac Jones is one of those QBs that kind of needs that timing rhythm-based offense, and these everything to work on schedule for him to thrive, whereas somebody like adjusted feels or a trade Lance can maybe create out of structure a little bit longer here, and Mac Jones, because of their athleticism in their arm Talent. That's a very popular, you know, kind of conversation around the league. But at the same time, I think offensive coordinators are playing callers like you Shanahan. Like Josh McDaniels are really confident in their structure in within their scheme that they're not. So concerned about the 10% of the time when the play breaks down, what what's going to happen, right? They're concerned about the 90% of the time. What's the quarterback doing? What decisions is he making within the confines of the offense? I think that's way more important at the end of the day. Accuracy, decision-making from the dog. It is going to Trump all that, second reaction type of stuff. I think for an offensive coordinator, like Josh, McDaniels as appealing as playing 11 on living in the running game, is I still think that that's at the end of the day, the most important thing when we're talking about quarterbacks, let's talk about some wide receivers favorite day, too wide receiver. We've had this conversation a few times in mock drafts and stuff like that. I'm Mary Rogers guy, you know, that, I think that he's a great fit here in New England. See some other names in the chat, Elijah Moore, I think he's a day, one guy terrorist Marshall from LSU. Who do you like on dates? You know, and then I can maybe give a name other than the market Rogers since I've talked about him. So much is Kadarius. Toney a day to die or are we putting, you know, I think he's certainly going to be exact one of the thirty, two best players in this draft. It's just a matter of how many wide receivers are really going to go in the first round. All right, so I'll say like to dirt Tony with an asterisk and then I'm still I'm still aboard. The Jalen darn train. Still and I don't necessarily know that he's going to be a good NFL player. I just love the potential. I love what's potentially there. And that's what say too is all about, right? It's about taking big swings on guys. And and getting a guy that I, you know, maybe has some red flags that kept him out of the first round, but definitely has something in him that you think, you know, says Superstars. So, I think that's Jayla Darden. So I'll go, I'll go Kadarius Toney and Jaylen dog because I guess I have that type. I'm going to take a second to shout out our friends at betonline.ag BetOnline. The fastest, and easiest way to bet on all your Sports Action football might be over. But MBA college basketball and the NHL Iraq, to swing BetOnline, even covers Awards, T shows and reality, T V, real time, updated odds of props, and almost anything you can imagine. But online has you covered, for all the news. Scoresandodds is, the best way to place your bets and it's free to sign up head to the website or use your mobile device to sign up today. Receive your 50%, welcome bonus on your first deposit. But online, your online Sportsbook experts don't sit on the sidelines anymore or get in on the action. Don't forget to use that promo code. See all that 50 to receive a 50%. Welcome bonus with your first deposit. Well, it's pretty easy to pick the undersized receivers in this draft, right? I mean, that's basically what ninety percent of the draft is. The other name is like, here's an interesting quite well. Give me your name and then there's an interesting question in regards to this conversation. Okay. So the other The name I wanted to mention that I don't think that gets nearly talked about enough in this wide receiver class as am on raasay Brown from USC. So he's the type of player to me that drives in New England, not necessarily the athlete that Kadarius Toney use or rondale Moore is or even jail and Darden. But he's just a technician and he's very very quick at the top of the route that translated to his three-cone time that he ran like a 681 month and the three-cone. And you see that quickness in his Ralph breaks the technical kind of Savvy. The ability to set up defensive backs, understanding of Leverage. I think he's the type of player that reminds me a little of Jacoby Meyers, but with the better athletic profile. And if I'm the Patriots, those are the types of guys that I'm targeting at the wide receiver position. I'm saying, no to terrorist Marshall. I'm saying no to die. Ami brown, black guys is prospects for other teams, but I want the guy that is going to be ready to go within the confines of this system. I think Amon-Ra st. Brown would run really Savvy routes instantly. Patriots, and would give you what your copy Myers does, but maybe with a little bit more athletic upside. So that's the other guy. I think it's not we we really haven't talked about him at all and I don't think he gets talked about it all terms of, you know, the conversation here in New England or in the Boston area and Right now, fair enough. I just think he and you kind of him. I think he's a little redundant Jacoby Myers and she's an upgrade over Jacoby Myers which is kind of why I would, you know, like even take him. I just I don't know that I'm using a Top fifty pick on just upgrading. I think somebody when there's probably be more in the second or third round conversation not necessarily the top 50 just because of the fact that wide receiver. That's what I'm saying. Their second round pick as forty six and then it's 96 and maybe they trade up but you know, especially we have Nelson. Agholor is going to be one receiver, you're really going to have only two receivers on the field. Voles the time you already have both Jacoby Myers and Kendrick Bourne who can play that role and I just, I don't like, I like the player. I think everything you said about the players, true, I just get in terms of roster construction management. I I don't maybe if they have a son can record, I'd be more excited about it. I just, you know, I'm just worried about so if they will go out and made a major have to Kadarius Toney or they just You have the wrong, no more. Those guys have game-breaking speed that kind of works in any system, right? You just get the ball in their hands and watch them run with it. That's a great all well, and good. But if they're type, is to be a little bit busy, going to get a guy that's a little bit more physical. I just, I don't want to see another terrorist Marshall here, you know, I really, I agree. I agree. Terrorists Marshall, Nico Collins. But I've also said, like, you don't need to be one of the other, I'm fine. If they don't take a receiver until day three. Yeah, I don't think it's that big of a need right now. Just giving the way the roster structure, I agree. Well, you know, if they're like, if they're going to go that route, the big guy is Jonathan Adams go, if you're really gonna take a swing, really take a swing like 180 but somebody if we are going to talk about the slot receivers somebody brought up rondale Moore vs. Kadarius Toney yeah which I think is a very interesting conversation and I would I would say it goes back to something I just said that I think the hesitation with rondale Moore is his ability to stay on the field right in. He struggled to stay healthy and that's where I am. Reason why Kadarius Toney is the first round pick right now? At least a borderline first-round, pick rondale. Moore is kind of seen a little bit later, is Ronda more, is that prototypical day to pick? There's a there's flashes of Superstar but there's a red flag. In this case, this injuries that's kind of holding them back where Kadarius Toney. He's been more durable. He's also just built a little more like an NFL player, he is thicker. He has more muscle on, he's going to absorb, I also just think he's a little bit better of a player, it's marginal but when you factor in that injury history and the physical build, I'm going to go with Kadarius Toney in this one. But you know, Kadarius Toney at the end of the first, verse Rondo, more off. Early middle. The second you can get into the value conversation there for sure. I, I have major concerns about rondelle more. I don't think he's going to stay healthy, but are they Talent related? None of them are down. Fair enough ideas, played seven games in the last two years. He's not a big guy, he's not as thickly built a human being like a Kadarius Toney or an Amari Rodgers or wage. Smaller slot types, you will get a guy like Tyreek Hill. The reason why he's been so durable is because his lower body is, is Stout, you know, he's built like a like a truck down and the thighs. Forgot, who is the Bucs running back? They had like five six years ago, who was built, and he had called the Muscle Hamster. Oh, Mark Doug Martin. Doug, Martin, Doug Martin? Yeah, like the Muscle Hamster. Like you're looking for that kind of build when a guy's that like small. Exactly. And and you worry, I just worry about their ability with Rhonda more he's electric. He's a lightning-in-a-bottle, he is off all sorts of kind of game-breaking speed, all those types of things. I'm not taking Rondo more in the top 50 because I don't think rondale Moore is going to stay healthy and you're projecting that. He's going to stay healthy for 63 + games, and be consistent weapon for you, while touching the ball, a bunch, right? If you're taking him in the top 50, you want to feed him, right? You want him to be a vocal point in your offense, and he's going to have to move. Watch the football, eight, nine, ten times, and being able to take the hit every single time and get back up, right. And I just don't know if you will. And so that for those the reasons I've been extremely concerned and kind of boundary of Rhonda, more in New England. I also think it's a little bit of, you know, in recent years. The Patriots, especially with skill position, players have struggled to keep those guys healthy, right? They've drafted Sony Michelle, they have, drafted n'keal Harry. And these guys have struggled to go back to Malcolm Mitchell, right? And you worry, they just haven't had the best of luck with that type of stuff in New England, from Isaiah window, Michelle did n'keal Harry. I mean, we can go all the way down the line and and years back. Right? You know, Derek Rivers gets hurt his first year Tony Garcia, never plays for the Patriots, right? I mean rasa galon is where there's a leading. Yeah yeah definitely. Let me ask you a question about your options career basically derailed by injuries. I'm curious what you think of this. So now that they have the unlimited, right? They're keeping the unlimited return for my are that they have log. Here, are you more any of the expand the roster as well? Are you more willing to take a shot on an injury-prone guy? Like I've been thinking about that. I'm not sure exactly how I feel about it cuz at the end of the month, even if you, you know, you can bring it back and forth as much as you want. If he's not on the roster, he's not helping you, but I don't know. I'm curious about that. I wonder if teams will be more interested in, you know, cuz it applies to other guys in straight down to Dickerson is one, who is a clear, first round Talent, if not for his injury history, it seems to be more willing to take these guys with with the shorter ir and making it easier for guys to return from IR. Yeah, that's a good point and I think that with the Patriots like we've said, they don't necessarily need the guy to play right away. They don't necessarily need Rod. Biltmore to be a star for them instantly. Right wage. But at the same time, I don't know if you're going to take Rondell more to me, I want them on outside the top 50 like trade back in the second round. It would be a game. Malcolm Mitchell situation, right? Exactly. And I think he's going to go way higher than that you know especially in a drought like this where there's a lot of sort of uncertainty, there's not a whole lot of prospects in the draft. I have to pay to Thursday, it's going to be tiny like I think they're going to have maybe fifty sixty draftable grades. They usually have around 80 or 90. Now we're in a draft, that's a third of the size of a normal draft. I think they're going to be somewhere around fifty five guys that are draftable to them and maybe rondale Moore is on that list. I also wanted to quickly talk about Elijah more, the other more real fast. So a lot of people in the chat page Elijah was not going to be daylynn. Picked o, as in more, I really, she's not a day one pic. There's a lot of conversations around the league of rondale Moore actually being the fourth guy off the board. Receiver position after the big three at the top. And I think that he is going to be somebody that is going to get drafted a lot higher than certain people think. And the reason being is that he had insane production wage Last year, as that undersized slot, three level burner great with the ball in his hands. Great at the attach point at the break point. There's a lot of reasons to like Elijah more whole lot and I think the league is extremely high on him as a player. Sure. Yeah. No. I think he's a good player. I can't help but think past the old pissed incident the 2019. I think do we talked about that last week on the show we did? Yeah. Like I said in the mock draft when we were thinking about making it was yeah he's a really good wire. I just it's like Margot Wilson. I can't see Marco Wilson's name and not think about him throwing the show so that's that's I don't know. That's where I'm at with Elijah more really good player. You know. I think, you know, I think a lot of its preference, right? I he could be the fourth receiver of the war but what if the team that wants the fourth? Receiver off protocol, X1 sit outside guy. Right. Then you're talking about. Maybe Rashad Bateman somebody like that. Yeah, so I think a lot of its preference. I think Elijah Moore is a good player, but again it just goes back like that, 2019 head. Watch that live. I that was just amazing football that, that was such a moment and so I will like, Elijah more. It can be a Hall of Famer in my mind. He'll always be tied to the 2019 Deadpool own now. So like we on less likely online great player. But everybody thinks of Leon Lett it's the Super Bowl in the snow game in Dallas. So let's let's wrap up this wide receiver conversation, you mentioned Kendrick Bourne. Sort of the guy in the sly along with Jacoby Myers. I think this is an interesting conversation of, okay? There is a million undersized sweetie slot receivers. We just talked about them for like fifteen minutes, right? All the different guys that fit that mold, but the Patriots have born, they have Jacoby Myers, I think Nelson agholor, they probably will project to somebody. That is maybe an extra Z, but I think that that's someone that they're going to want to play a little bit more on the outside but I think that the conversation of do. They really need another inside receiver, as much as I would absolutely love having somebody else. That could create after the cash at the ball in their hands. How how much do they really need? Another inside receiver and what outside guys do we like? Because as somebody else brought up the Patriots, history of outside receivers is not so great. Right? You know, Chad Jackson Aaron Dobson, the kill Harry, you know, it's not a great run for them with the outside, guys. So which ones do you feel? Config, New England and maybe feel better about actually working out here? Yeah, well, we've talked about this, and I think there's a chance that they give both Myers and born a chance to pull the X. Yeah. To see what those guys can do. And maybe that's the answer. You can't draft a guy. So you go and get a guy who, you know, can play in the NFL and you try to see how we Works outside. If they're going to go into Iraq I think you go down and a 3 and you just try to find a guy to push and kill and camping then either stash on the practice squad or trade to kill her. If he's good enough I just feel like I've at that point I'm going home run Jonathan Adams. The jump all threat of red-zone threat. The way their offense is built right now. They really just need the ex guy to be a red zone, threat Nico, Collins certainly wouldn't be a bad option. Either way, I'm not like super into the idea of them taking a big receiver. I don't especially if they're going to keep nikhil and there's been some rumors that he's going to be traded but especially if they're going to keep them. I just I don't see a need to take a big outside receiver. Yeah. So I think that the need is there for Truex. I actually really like Nico Collins. I think that he's a player that could succeed here. He has that outside speed, and he also timed really, really well in the three-cone. So he does have some agility or lateral movement, I should call it. He's not a guy as a jitterbug, at the top of the route. But at the line of scrimmage, I did see some pretty good Nuance in 2000. They didn't play 20/20 in his release package. I think is released package at this point, is much better than to kill Harry's. I think that he's somebody that can really wrong. The line build up his speed and if you're going to be an outside guy that's going to win with possession and contested catches, you have to win at the line of scrimmage. You have to move guys off the their spots. Be able to blow past them at them to scrimmage and open up your strides get, guys on your back and adjust the balls in the air. That's how you win as a contested receiver. And the reason why nikhil Harry struggled so much is because he doesn't get that movement at the line of scrimmage. And it causes him to wear coverage down the field, right? And allows those guys to ride his hip pocket and being good position to play the ball. So I think the biggest thing we you see with Nico Collins is, I do see that lateral movement at the line and not lease package to get off of press coverage to get himself up the field and we definitely saw that at Michigan. We saw that is at the Senior Bowl where he played really well, I think his values going to be diesel this draft because these slot receivers are going to fly off the board. I think that eight nine, ten of these guys could go in the top seventy-five pics or so, so you might see somebody like a Nico Collins hang around to the third round table. That's going to end up being the case. And I really liked that value play. I like to I N E Brown from North Carolina whole lot to as an outside. Ex he's a little bit stiffer. I'm not sure if that really is the best translatable go there but Nico Collins. If I had to take somebody with a premium, pick would probably be my guy in this draft for the Patriots. If you got to wait on it. Like you said, you know, Jonathan Adams. There's a couple of bigger. I'll give you one more to is. I've been big on this guy. Dez, Fitzpatrick. Yeah. From Louisville. And I don't know that he's as fluent at the line as Nico Collins is, but guys who are handicapped guys, you can catch the ball away from their body, guys who you know, have body control and can make acrobatic acrobatic catches those guys tend to do pretty well here and Dez Fitzpatrick is that he's six-two and eating huge that entire frame in his catch. Radius is really impressive. So he's maybe a guy on day three if they want that acts and he can play a little bit in a slot to him kind of play that big spot rule. So he brings some versatility as well. So maybe that's the guys are looking dog. Yeah, maybe it got like Cornell Powell to I think could call in today three just based off of the death. That's the thing is that we talked about this, I think more. So and really the last three drafts the receiver depth. I just been absolutely insane so it's not like you know it'd be great. If the Patriots drafted somebody like a Darius Tony or shot Bateman or something and just got this big time playmaker at wide receiver but you can wait on wide receiver off these drafts and get somebody later on on day three that I think is still going to have starter level talent. That that's how deep this class. Is this year somebody on day three, in this draft might really be a fringe banking another draft. I think there's starter level talent, draftable talent and a 3 for a lot of rounds. Like I think you can maybe get somebody in the 5th of the 6th round that will be a starter home or upside type of player, maybe not right now, that's why he falls, but down the road, maybe you can develop him into somebody like that. And those are a few of those guys. There aren't, let's have this conversation. I need job. You want to talk running backs? Alex, so I will let you talk about running backs. The Patriots. I have said it more solid at not that kind of need, but okay. Yeah, I said, you don't have to necessarily talk about Niger Harrisburg, but we've talked about it multiple times, that the Patriots have kicked the tires on running backs, this offseason and free agency, they haven't made a move, it running back yet. I think that there's a running back coming now. I hope it's not early as I hope it's not a premium pick but I do think there is a running back coming. Where would you say is is a target that you would feel comfortable with? Cuz I think a first-round running back would be a disaster. Sure. Yeah. Not. Not as your hair like sneaky need. Absolutely. All agree with that. Not to the first round extent. They basically need So they they have they're too early down back to the Sony Michelle and Damien Harris. That's right. They like to carry to passing game box as well. James White comes back. That's one, but he's going to be thirty very few running backs. Produce the age of thirty and there's really nobody behind him shade retailers, kind of in this in-between space. He's actually an early down back because he's not a great pass-blocker and that James White role as important as it is to be touched the ball. You have to be able to pass block to JJ. Taylor's more that Dion Lewis where he's a change of pace early down back so given they don't play rookie running backs in James White's kind of right up against it. Off the Patriots need to look to to find the next guy. So he can Redshirt this year and then, you know, just like James White to go with Christine Perrine Perrine, took over for Woodhead, would head took over for Kevin. Faulk, Etc. So where do they find? That guy? The earliest to me, you're looking right outside the top 100 and it's Dimitra filtered from UCLA. They've met with your, he's a great fit, didn't physically test. Well, I'm not scared off by that. I don't know how long. Feel I trust what I've seen on tape. I think that that was an anomaly had a bad day. I don't know. He had something bad for lunch. Whatever it is, I don't think they need felt at 1:20. There's some other guys. We've talked about Kyle and he'll maybe going a little later Jerry at Patterson for Buffalo's a guy who could be, they could be interested in one guy, really like go and I come around on this last couple of days and it's interesting. You mentioned, Rex Burkhead, because Rex Burkhead could kind of fill both ROM as a pass-catching back, but he was better out of, you know, traditional sets and just taking handoffs from under Center, then a guy, like, James way it is. And if there's a guy like that in this draft, to me, it's Ricky's void out of Arkansas. That last chance U star. He's got a similar build 5:11 to 2:15, so he is big but he's not big. He's a very powerful Runner. He likes me into contact and his size. Yeah, might be tough at the NFL, but you like to see a guy who's not afraid to fight for extra yards and he's a sneaky. Good receiver. He was used a good amount out of the backfield as a junior birth. Three years ago at Arkansas last year, he only played six games and then opted out cuz Arkansas. I was just terrible, but he kind of fits that Rex Burkhead. He can do a little bit of everything, he's going to be able to, he's going to be a power running back. He's going to he's a guy you could use on the goal line, but at the same time you can use them out of the backfield. It's a very good pass-blocker. He's shown the hands are still coming around running still coming but he's shown an ability that you get. He understands what he needs to do with any seems like he grow into it and you can play special teams as well. He might be like him so much because he was on last chance U but that's why I know about him. That's know. Cuz I Ronald Ollie was in the draft. Oh yeah, yeah, you need to finish that stuff. Although they did have Nick called last year was also on the show, he got. No. So look, it's it's a cool story. Would it be cool if they got the last chance you got? Yes, in all honesty. The reality is, we're keyboard. I think has a lot of what Rex Burkhead brought to the team. But because he's a, he's a power back, who's five, eleven, two-fifteen. It's going to scare a lot of teams off. And they're certainly growth that needs to happen there, but like, you just like you just said, right? You don't want them using a premium pick with the running back. So you're talking about developmental, guys, I think your keyboard has a lot of traits that maybe aren't off ready yet. But excite you in for a team that doesn't need this guy to produce right away in likes to register running backs. He's kind of the perfect fit and they can get him outside of the top 200 and maybe as a udfa. So that that's off by the other guy. Wanted to mention was kind of gain, well, from Memphis or bar like a lot. I think that he's sort of like Austin ekeler more so than maybe a James White. But somebody that in this draft of the most rap sliding out outside the formation, you know, as a guy that signs or adult. Yeah. More than felt he lined up outside receiver, a whole lot and that Memphis offense, they are all of a sudden Memphis is like sneaky be coming running back you in like not necessarily like 1.0 that's Alabama. Alabama, is never going to be topped as running back you. In terms of of guys that are in first round types of town, But Darryl Henderson, Antonio Gibson, Kenneth Jane wals draftable guy, every single year at a Memphis or seems to be at least one running back a couple of years ago. I think that Darrell Henderson draft, they had two guys that were drafted. That were both running backs, so they have a stacked kind of running back. Factory working on it, there at Memphis. He's a pass-catching running back. I think you can run a little bit in between the tackles. That's a really wide open on base. Came at Memphis, that's kind of hard to project those guys into more of a Manpower skiing like what, the Patriots are going to run. But at the same time, I think that the pass-catching skills definitely there for Kenneth gain will be sorted by dmytryk felt and white, right? If you're not going to, if you don't want to use a third or fourth round pick on Dimitra Felton. Maybe you can get kind of game world like the fifth or the sixth round if someone like that. If they take a running back, like Najee Harris in the first round and I am going to quit well. So the interesting thing here in remember would Bill said during his press conference, write that in some ways. The 2019 tape is better than the twenty-twenty tape dead. So keeping that in mind. Let me give you one more name, chuba Hubbard. Yeah, you might have to work here, right? Great room at one point, he was in the, it was not Harris, wasn't even in the conversation was trash and and chuba Hubbard for our be one this year. He was supposed to come out last year and he would have been a borderline first-round, pick last year he stays in other year struggled early. I mean, Oklahoma State. Just struggled as a whole kind of quiet, you know, that he opts out kind of like her keyboard and just you know, I'm not everybody here. Want to get ready for the draft but if bills using that 2019 tape, as heavy as he's using 2020, National Harbor who exact kind of do both these in early down back into pass-catching back. He's going to be higher on the Patriots board than just about any other team if they're really looking at 2019 and it'd be a good pick, didn't get too but Hubbard around like that. That would they like 177? Yeah, he did pretty well with that pick. Yeah, that's a good point. All right let's answer this question. I think it's a good one. Bigger. Need safety or cornerback and we've talked about birth. Positions, both positions are sort of 2022 and Beyond type needs right safety. You're looking for the next Devin McCourty type Corner. You're talking about outside corners and and how that's going to Faith, was defined Gilmore, Jesse Jackson's contract situations, which one's more important to you right now to fill. So I'm going to contact the cop out cuz I don't necessarily agree with what you just said about them, both being twenty-twenty to need. It's I think outside corners a neat right now. Who's their third outside corner? It's, I mean right now, it's either Chauhan Chauhan Williams, Robin Williams or or Michael Jackson, took a train to 4 from Detroit last year, right? I don't know. I mean to Juan Williams is flashed a little bit. I would hate to see them bringing another guy. Who's the number three this year that moves up, I think corners and more immediate needs with the Patriots defense that deep safety. So important. And I trust them to be able to identify and go and get a corner later in the draft or udfa. I think so, upside pick. I think safety is a bigger need. I think you need to try off. Start fighting the guy who's going to step in for Devon, but immediately I think Corners a bigger need cuz I again, with Gilmore coming off that injury and JC Jackson's kind of gone through cold some sometimes, I'd like them to have a real reliable third corner. I thought Jason, McCourty was a good option. He's now taking other meetings Chauhan Williams, to me as kind of risky, so is Michael Jackson. I'd like to see them have a younger more Higher Side option, maybe for that spot. The argument that you just made as a good one and the problem is that I think a lot of people at a draft a corner, I think. All the educated fans that watch our show and in other shows that understand the needs of the team will understand if they take a corner early, right? If it's in a quarter in or 4 to 6, but a lot of the casuals are going to freak the eff out. Especially if they take another quarter in the second round like a Juwan Williams type in Campbell, for example, from Georgia, it was really a carbon copy of a guy like Ross idling or Joanne Williams, you know, not as big as Juwan but wage But too long fluid athletic raw upside corner, right? So I think advised that I would look at if they're going to go, I agree that corner is a bigger need right now than say fifty. I think that they do need some depth are on the outside and I certainly think that they need to look at twenty twenty-two and Beyond as well, because the odds of having both Stephon Gilmore and JC Jackson on a 2022. Roster, I think is a pretty big long shot, right? The likelihood. The other thing just can change. I mean Gilmour gets traded it changes like that. So right. Likelihood that they're able to keep both of those guys Beyond am too, especially with the money that they just committed, the corner are not the corner to the roster, this offseason, you know, that's a lot of big contracts to start stacking. Even if you have a rookie quarterback it's a lot of big contracts. Start stacking together and fit under the cap and have flexibility. So, I think the biggest thing that you would look at it with Corners is somebody that can play both a little play, the Z Receiver, right? Place. Somebody that can log. Play a little inside can play a little bit outside and isn't just pigeon-holed to just outside boundary Corner work because I do think there are a lot of guys that I would like at at that outside cornerback spot wage. But somebody like an Eric Stokes I think is is someone that can move around a little bit and be sort of a more versatile player in your defense. I do like take out a little bit from UCF, as well as sort of a slot outside type of game players like that, that kind of fit that Malcolm Butler molds of somebody that can run around and and Shadow a z receiver. I think that's an important one because Steff JC Jackson, you're going to keep those guys on the battery for the most part unless Gilmore's traveling inside with the stud, right? If he's going to start with Stephon Diggs or something like that. So I think that that's where they should probably look at corner. If someone that's not the way the big body type. I think they have enough of those types of guys, but someone that's a little bit more flexible to move them around. But at the same time, I I love the corners of stop the draft ijc horn, and Patrick Stewart. And I think, yep. Both of those guys in the first round. You've done really well? Yeah, I just think I'm fine. If they go out and get a bigger. Outside guy just for the long-term projection. Sure. And maybe it's a guy who's Jason where you started as an inside corner and then moved outside. He just kind of played with her opportunities and Stokes can do that. Another guy you described who kind of fits that mold is Benjamin steak juice. Yeah, it's going to go a little later in the draft age. Maybe a little more of a project but the same general idea. I just want a guy look, if you can play the slot and he plays in the slot early and they figure out a way to keep both Gilmore and JC for twenty Twenty-One like cool. That's fine. I want a guy who when one of those guys isn't on the team in 2022, we don't have to panic because this guy is Stephanie and his outside corner number two and we know that he's there and he's good to go to versatility to a long-term isn't a huge issue cuz I think you're drafting this guy. Like you said to be that outside corner to be that guy that stays on the boundary in battles with X receiver. Since he receives it to me I really like Eric Stokes the more I kind off. Read about him, the way, watch him, the more I learn about him. He's, I said it during the mock draft, I kind of have him, right? They're neck-and-neck for with us. They Samuel jr. Especially in if we're talking specifically, took the Patriots in terms of the fit for the Patriots. Like, Eric Stokes is maybe the biggest Riser on my board right now. I'm really a fan of his. Yeah, he's a really really technically quiet corner. I love quiet Corners right off guys. And they don't panic in man coverage especially and they're cool. Calm and collected. That really translates very well to the NFL, the guys that get panicky. The guys that are opening their hips early to try to run with guys, they're worried about speed. You know, those are the corners that tend to be a little bit grabby, tend to be a little bit prone to being burned at the NFL level, a guy like Eric Stokes is a quiet. Cool. Calm technician I played three years of starter ball in the SEC for Georgia, right? That's that there's something to be said for that experience, as well as if you're looking for a guy to be that third corner, now they have Jonathan Jones, they have a game. They have options in the slot, right? So they're not a lot. Yeah, Jonathan Jones, miles Bryant. Like I'm not remember DeAngelo, Ross comes back next year. Yeah. Forgetting the guy that they they just saw Shack Mills. Give a milk when he's got a safety too. But yeah, I couldn't be less worried. I thought corner, I think is one of if not their strongest spot right now on the roster in terms of top-end talent and depth. That's why the guy needs to play in the slot early to get wrapped. So be it, I just go get me a guy who can play on the outside, who can step in for JC Jackson, Stephon Gilmore. That's what I'm looking at. So, cuz a good option, I would much rather him than some of these other names that we've floated, you know, I think that he's really quickly becoming that guy that, you know, not to taught in the top three with Farley and certain and Horn, certainly. But that the next wave of quarterback prospect, I think that he's right at the top of the list for the Patriots. If I have to name a safety though. Tyree Gillespie from Missouri. I have really gotten into his tape off. More recently, you know, you know, me prisoner of the moment. He is somebody that is really an intriguing to me as a deep safety can play single, I can come down and and kind of lay the boom both against the run and the pass. Broke up a few plays against Alabama, had his best. Hey, probably last year, against Alabama, and of course, special teamer that contributed on five different units in Missouri. And if they're going to drop the safety with the premium pick that guys got to contribute in the kicking game. Same with the cornerback spot, right? They've got to get a guy that's going to be able to cover kicks because that's going to be difficult for them to get, you know, playing time as a rookie certainly with Jesse Jackson and Stephon Gilmore. Similarly, with Duggar and Mills and McCourty at safety. It's going to be a little bit difficult to find a guy that that's going to be able to play right away. So I think that that's a really good option for them to maybe third or fourth round tire Gillespie, a really high on him as well. Okay, so let's yeah. Jalen Mills really quickly. He's not going to be a single-high safety. Jalen Mills is playing in the Box, he's playing in the slot. Not not a, not a deep safety unless they are going to run a split coverage. I think, Patrick junk, you know, that that's really more, the role that they're looking for with him. Okay. Let's try to get to some more of these quarterback ones. Before we sign off here, this is an interesting question because we have sort of mixed, some of the quarterback options ahead of the Patriots in this draft, as we've gotten closer with none of the top three teams are going to take a quarterback. I still don't think the Atlanta Falcons are going quarterback, this crap. I think there might be a year or two soon to take up first a guy at 4 overall. With Matt Ryan, still under contract for a couple more years, but the teams behind the Patriots, the Bears, the Washington football team. Those are teams that might get aggressive at the quarterback spot and might be willing to give up multiple first rounders into the future to go and jump up above the Patriots, to take a QB birth. Worried are you about those teams are lurking behind New England and that's 16 to 24 range. I think is where the football team in the Bears kind of our. Yeah, it's certain. I mean it's certainly were thinking about it certainly am talking about is not in valid concern. I just want. Well, first of all, one of these teams is going to convince themselves are going to fall in love with Kyle Trask. I think I'll tracks ended up sneaking into the back in the first round. Oh, actually do. I think it's and I'll take the Steelers. Are the team that kind of have from right now, if you get a unique kind of just kind of Mason Rudolph e, right? You know, and I think you get a seamless transition from been into Trask, right? If that's kind of your life cuz Ben's got bids, gotta be honest, last year. I think right now slow motion are retired after last year, to be honest. I mean you're right but you got forty million dollars in terms of moving off that in. This is why the the Sam darnold trade was so big is the Patriots have the best offer on the table because they can offer that 15 pick instead of 18 or 20 or 21 or wage It is. And that's all they have to outbid and that might even discourage teams from attempting, right? The team that I'm worried about is Denver who sits at 9 if they want to move up. I don't know that they do again. I think they're too early. I don't think it's gotten a fair Shake yet. I think he used a top sixty pick on him. I think you really gotta do a little more, see what he has cuz he's shown some real promise, right? Outside of those last two minutes last year, the game in New England he just hitting, you know, fifty sixty or dots all over the field. It was great. But yeah, I, you know, I just they might try to jump but if the Patriots want a quarterback, they can have bid these teams if he seems jumps. And it probably means the pictures didn't want to trade up for quarterback, which is another story. And I'm not saying that that's, you know, the right thing to do to not try it out, but if the Patriots want to move up there either, if the pingers want to move up, one of three things going to happen, they're going to move up. That are that are two things, they're either going to move out for that team. Just doesn't want to budge. They're not going to get outbid because they, they can put the best offer on the table outside of Denver, who I still think the quarterback talk is a little like I think cuz they were in the DeShaun Watson thing and I think that got people going like oh quarterback like dreadlocks still a good Young quarterback, I'm not sacrificing future assets to move on from Drew lock. Now it's John Watson and the guy who's proven yeah I would but I don't think they're in the space, we're moving up from 9 to six 9 to 7 and giving up a future first to move on from a twenty-four-year-old quarterback, for a guy who was a wild card. That just doesn't seem worth it to me. Yeah, so the Bears that you mentioned Kyle Trask and I feel like the Bears are an interesting spot for Kyle Trask because he's the type of pass or that I think needs to be and a quick West Coast type of system. Right. He's going to want to get the ball out. He's going to want to live with the decisions are made for him. Yeah. West coast-based scheme seems to be the best fit for Kyle Trask. So yep. Could see the Bears liking him a little bit. He's got the size you know he's got some of those things that you like in terms of West Coast scheme so maybe they go that direction in Chicago, the football team. Interesting one, you know I think that they're going to be a little bit aggressive at quarterback too. But the point I wanted to make is that honestly, I sort of feel like the quarterback conversation is now going to offer full circle. And this is where I feel like we're going to get next week on Thursday night as we taught. All these conversations about Mac Jones going number three, to San Francisco. I still don't think he's dead for the 49ers. I know that's what everybody in the media wants to say, and wants you to believe, but I still don't feel like Mac Jones has to pick for the Niners at 3, which makes me think that the most likely outcome. Like we talked about you and I Alex starting back in January, for the Patriots. In the first round is probably Mac Jones, right? I think that he's the guy that around 10:11, that's when our Parts to make sense for a player like Mac Jones, maybe three a little bit too high, especially over guys, like Justin fields and Trey. Lance, Matt Jones, I feel like we are, like I said, we started it in January, 8th, around the college football, playoff and around the college football national championship. Say, Matt Jones is the best fit in the draft for the Patriots at quarterback. Then we all kind of got it fascinated in myself, included by Justin Fields by Trey lands by the upside of those players. And now I feel like we've come full circle in that Jones is the more realistic option to get. So, I feel like Mac Jones is is going to be right in their sweet spot. And somebody that is going to be a very, very easy for the Patriots to end up getting. I think that it's going to end up being fields or Lance at 3 to San Francisco. I don't think any of these other things are going to be clamoring to draft Mac Jones in the top ten that have pics like Denver or like Atlanta and might have needs their quarterback. I think that it ends up being somebody like a dog. Jack Jones, which is I find is will be fascinating if we come back complete full circle after you and I talked about it all the way back when and I talked about in October you told me know yet I still, I still remember that I know you were going to bring that up, you're never going to forget it as long as I have anything to say about it. You're never going to forget it and why do you want that job? Hundred percent of the quarterback? It is a little bit of a reach but that's quarterbacks for you. All right, so, apparently getting off, quarterbacks really quickly. I want to go back to my big offensive lineman. I, I haven't seen this from dog in in my grease, but apparently, Elijah, Barrett Tucker's name has come up in their conversations. He is somebody that definitely checks a lot of Patriots boxes very smooth athlete does project from a lot of people to move inside to guard but when you play that well at tackle and in a power 5 conference, I think you can definitely leave him out at tackle as well and have them. I have a very good NFL career. Really, smooth. Athlete connects really well in climbs to the second level, pull blocks and movements. Lateral movements, if you want to move them, they're very clean past better. It's just a kind of clean checks the boxes, safe offensive line pick and I think that that would be a really nice pic for them. In the first round. We've talked a lot about Dara Sam. We talked a bit about Rashawn Slater, we talked about guys, maybe on day two, at the tackle position where Dunes Liam eichenberg from Notre Dame, whatever. We haven't talked a ton about Vera Tucker, I'm not sure how much you you've seen of him Alex. But a very technically sound clean tackle Prospect with very good athleticism. Yeah, I'd agree with that. I haven't watched a ton of him like they'll take they they like those those athletic kind of multi-position tackles. He certainly fits. I think at this point, if they're gonna take a tackle, I just feel like they're going to be able to get Darius are slated fifteen and I think those two guys are better and maybe this is like a trade backs there. I'd have to see exactly what doug in in my life that, but right, I just he's a good tackle. I just don't know if he's going to be the best tackle in the board when they pick the reason why I think that it could be higher on their board than we think, is because he, they do love those guys that can play both tackle and guard, right? If you give them those first add versatility, I think Vera Tucker's somebody that they could project in their system could play for different spots in a spot beside center-right. And that is something that they do, these guys, you can get like that later in the draft, right, right. I mean, that's not his top trade, I'm just saying that if you're stacking him together at home, Got some really good upside really clean technique. As I said if you're stacking them together, Daryl's house, later Vera Tucker. You know, all these Leatherwood all these guys in the first round record. Definitely presents the most kind of Versatility somebody that can move around the line and you can play in different spots. Whereas other guys, you know, if you drafted the guy like Darius out, he's playing left tackle. If you draft a guy life Slater he's playing left tackle, I think terrorists are very attacker gives you a little bit more versatility. Now I do wonder if he's a little bit better befit and a zone-based game, big outside Zone type of offense like a like a Shanahan or a McVeigh type of offense, where you can step out and turn and run towards the sideline, use that athleticism and space as a lateral mover. But he does connect close second level. Like I mentioned not necessarily a people mover at the light is scrimmage but if they want sort of an athlete which they have tended to go towards those guys that are really have Good Feet, like Isaiah Wynn, there, Tucker. I left tackle makes a little dog. And for them as well. I just think I'll go back to what I said about the corners, you know, position of Versatility is nice but they're, they're going to need a starting left or right tackle next year, they do. I want to tackle wage the reason why he's projected mostly inside the guard is because his, his skill-set is a little bit better in terms of upside at guard, right? That's got a lot of these guys, right, you bum inside dog is an All-Pro guard. He's probably like a second. Team All-Pro tackle, right? You know what I mean? Like so? So again, where's the they're set of Garth their credit card. They they're they're going to need a couple next year and just get me. The guy who week one 2022 is going to be the better starting tackle and I just think that that's Terrace on Slater. Yeah. All right. Well I think that we can bring it up there and Okay, well, we did not have Mac Jones has a third-round pick that was back in October that we were talking about Mike. McCleary was reading his comments about how we feel about Mac Jones is a little off. Anyways, I think we can wrap it up about there and we're going to be back on Thursday, mock draft again. 5.0 this time right, Alex. And we're going to do another, we're do I find my drafts on Thursday, right? And then another serious one on Tuesday, before the video will be the final draft. This is our, this is what we're going with. Yeah, that that is the plan change. As of right now, we'll try to maybe fit in another Q&A or something like that and we'll definitely have post-draft reaction. Thank God. We can finally start talking about them actually took Dad, whatever you do like a week or two on that. And then what about Red Sox? And then, then the real offseason begins, right? And the off season begins at Birth. I always say after the draft, is the real dead. At the NFL calendar. So maybe we'll come up with some cool ideas Patriots, you know, roster, resets or whatever. And then we'll try to keep the will definitely keep the train rolling here on Patriot speed even after the draft. But I'm sure we'll have plenty of talk about for the weeks after the draft as well to break down. All the different things that the Patriots have done on draft weekend. So again markgraf Thursday night, another one on Tuesday before the job, which will be sort of our final. This is a dress rehearsal type of mock draft, for the Patriots, our best stab. So we were down. We can wear suits. I don't watch yourself it. I don't want to do since before quarantine. We may have to do that just to see what happens. Yeah, exactly. Well, we'll see, how how we look at getting all in our suits, that were pretty quarantine wait suits. That are going to be a little bit tight around the neck if you will, but we'll get into that next Tuesday, Thursday. Maybe one where does like suit t-shirts, you know, the, the like tuxedo t-shirt super classy. That'd be very classy. I like that. Very, very classy, but we're going to get into that on Tuesday. Again, that's our final mock draft leading up to the 2021 NFL draft which we are nine days away from and we are we're getting closer all this speculation. All these rumors, we can finally see what the Patriots are going to do. Cuz right now, I think the one thing that we can confidently, say Alex is absolutely nobody. Nobody knows what Bill Belichick is going to do next weekend, so don't list anyone. I don't think anyone that wage claims to know, has any idea what they're talking about? So, no one knows the Patriots are going to do. We're going to do our best to trying to take a guess at it over the next couple of episodes at the mock draft. But thank you guys very much for coming in today and taking answering asking questions. Excuse me and Alex and I will be back on the podcast on Thursday night from off trap 5.5 point. Oh yeah, 5.0 wage. But until then signing off, as far as I'm Evan, Lazar thanks for watching everybody.

Patriots Kadarius Toney Jordan rondale Moore Mac Jones Josh McDaniels Jacoby Myers Nico Collins McDaniels Trent Brown Tim Tebow New England Patrick Mahomes Packers Jonathan Adams JC Jackson Elijah Moore NFL
Recapping Ross & Steve's 2021 NFL Draft Bets

Even Money

27:41 min | 6 months ago

Recapping Ross & Steve's 2021 NFL Draft Bets

"If you'd like to make your nfl games a little more interesting. you've come to the right place even money. Podcast with russ tucker and steve. Yeah vegas baby vegas. It is the even money podcast presented of course by draftkings sportsbook where the regular draft kings app. Just use the code. Ross when you take advantage of those two awesome applications which by the way is the real name of app. Probably didn't know that i'm ross. Tucker former nfl offensive lineman five teams seven years those of you that check us out on youtube youtube dot com. Slash ross tucker. Nfl concede the helmets and game balls and stuff like that behind me. The youtube page also by the way a really good way really good way to see the highlight clips of the other shows. Ross tucker football podcast gonna be joined by dallas cowboys first round pick. Mike parsons later in the week tomorrow. We'll have andrew brandt. Nobody more qualified to talk about the aaron rodgers situation. Which by the way. Stephen i will address today. Wanna get steve starts. He's got some opinions on the nba. He's got some thoughts on some of the season win. Total numbers getting a little iffy. Post draft broncos packers and steve's reaction to that and of course we're going to go through the nfl draft and all of our beds. We actually did quite well. We normally do so. We'll get to those as well. I'm at ross tucker. Nfl twitter and instagram facebook. We are at ross tucker pod. I appreciate any social media interaction ever. He is defending at exports. Low there. Steve hello ross. Sometimes we get so involved with sports betting in so much going on things just slip through the cracks. Apparently there was a kentucky derby this weekend. I didn't hear about it. you know. i didn't realize it until friday. And i thought oh man. That's a pretty big betting thing we probably should have referenced it but most people listening to us for nfl bet then. Some side beds. I think most people are mainly football betters. They've got some side bets Other sports other major activities major event. So we didn't. We missed that one but that's okay. I wouldn't have had much to say about it anyway. I did notice though steve. You've been doing pretty well on your twitter at fez export. You've been doing pretty well on your fcs. Playoff bats tablet. You know i've been doing well on my fcs bats which completely changed. When the playoffs started. I went into this weekend's attendance six year to date so maybe i pushed it a little bit too much. Think about it a little bit tighter lions in the playoffs with so few games versus the regular season with the much bigger board. Okay so you did better in the regular season now. The playoffs is well. That's correct attendance six year to date. I'll take that every time though. Yeah absolutely you know. We talked about this last week. Steve and i think it's worth reiterating. We spoke last to do the show. Every tuesday right and we'll get in the season windows again soon and all kinds of stuff rookie of the year etc. I actually asked. Mike parsons for the last raw soccer. Football podcast this week. What he thought of being the odds on favourite for the rookie of the year. So i got got his thoughts on him being the favourite for the rookie year. But we talked about especially during the draft. Steve following the line paying attention to certain lines. I should have known on thursday. As soon as i saw trae lance it swung again and trae. Lance was the odds on favorite to be the number three pick. I should've known right then. And there. But i had been skeptical because they have been wrong on fields. But i should have known right in there. Steve something was up and that it was going to be lance. Yes so if you see. Big line moves a couple of weeks before the draft a month before the draft. That is speculation. There's news but speculation. When you see trae lance go plus two fifty on wednesday the day from the draft. And then you wake up in the morning. And he's minus fifty and eastern favorites. Someone knows something. It's already been decided and that's why you're seeing such great wine moves. That news has leaked out to the marketplace. It is rarely wrong to just bet on the. Un's line moves on predetermined events like this as it turned out to be like the first six players taken in the draft. You'd steam on pets close under five and f late to fifty you'd steam on chase bengals. The take him under five and a half late to fifty. Didn't matter their hundred set line moves. You don't have to pay the big ross. If all the bet swim really really good point. That was the one that jumped out to me. I didn't notice pits or were there other ones like that. Steve sure bottle was eleven and a half over under and word got out. That wada was the preferred wide receiver over smith. He closed minus two eighty to go before smith and over under nine and a half. No surprise. waddell wound up being taken six at horan all the money on horn. He was at thirteen and a half initially dropped the twelve and a half and then the big under twelve and closed like minus two hundred or goes ace. Yeah i love the under for joe horn abs- jc horn. Joe horn son. Absolutely loved that. So yes so. Did you get a chance to get on those steve. I did bet quite a few of those. I made numerous pets in the draft. The going three and one widely available lines for my clients. Fifteen and six in my own beds. And i gotta tell you i got friends. Ross they are telling me. I massively underachieved. I know one guy that went to lebanon. Oh another one of my friends. Went like thirty eight nine. Basically betting some of these openers. Look at where some of these quarterbacks open up again a mind like one hundred five mills one hundred and these are bets that literally people made going under a hundred and five on these quarterbacks they could not lose they were like ninety eight percent bets to win by the close. When both those quarterbacks relied correctly in the mid sixties and that's where they went so You know you mentioned. You seems like everybody did well in the draft steve. So what does that mean for vegas. What does that mean for the sportsbooks. I guess everybody we know. And that's in the no did well. But i'm assuming there's a lot of people that don't really follow it that closely recreational that i guess didn't do well sure about the recreational bettors. Don't bet that much. And the pro. Bettors make lipman bets. I can tell you having spoken to view the sportsbook directors around town. They just shaking their heads. Saying boy drafts going to be in vegas next year. I don't know what i'm going to do. There's going to be pressure for me to put up lots of product but we got buried. We oftentimes sportsbooks cry. Say it wasn't that good of a weekend and what they're saying. They didn't meet the revenue projections because remember they got expenses. They got to pay for the space. They got to pay all their employees and the like and when they normally says didn't do well they're saying have. I can meet my expectations in terms of what we won. No no this is the case. Where the sportsbooks forget all their expenses just in terms of banning the betters. Beat them on the draft. Yeah that that seems pretty clear at this point that if you're losing on the draft you're not paying attention our show or other shows like let's dive in steve to some of our beds and in fact before we do that. I wanna make sure people hear this as soon as possible so they act on as soon as possible. Mother's day is sunday. today is tuesday one. Eight hundred flowers. Has you covered with amazing. Deals from bouquets and plants to gourmet treats and sweets surprises those of you that listen to the rostker football podcast which is a lot of you. You know how. I feel about getting flowers for the moms in your life. On mother's day it's huge. It should be mandatory. They love it. In fact my mother in law my mom. My wife's grandmother omo. They're all getting their one eight hundred flowers bocquet's tomorrow to order last minute. Mother's day bouquets. Arrangements and gifts go to one eight hundred flowers dot com click the radio icon enter code football. That's one eight hundred flowers dot com code football locking these amazing mother's day deals today all right so let's look at some of our bets deep. I had more than you did. So we'll start with mine. You know a couple of i. Three sort of shots. No four kind of long shot. One hit three did not the best ones steve remember. We talked this out together last tuesday. Jc horn i defensive player to be drafted plus three hundred. I you know i was. I thought it was about fifty fifty now. I think that back. I thought was about thirty. Three percent chance that he'd be the first defensive player taken. I thought people like 'certain more about that. There might be one or two that like horn Will it happens steve. The carolina panthers took him at number eight. I defensive player drafted a plus three hundred score for our listeners. Who were very excited about that. One yet 'certain was basically locked in the entire draft likely to go to dallas and it was curious. The dow stephen get him at ten because he went nine. But basically 'certain what was way projected to go way before horn entertained stayed. The same horn just kept gaining and by the time of the actual draft. Like i said his over under was a very comparable to lesser tan. My favorite tap thirty to pick on the draft kings sportsbook app was stokes. Plus one thirty. You heard that he was probably gonna go round late round one as a corner. That's exactly what happened. He went to the green bay packers. So that was another one that hit with plus money plus one thirty for that and then you know the ones that were bad for me. Were i guide a position. Be drafted to shot with sean slater. I loved it a plus six fifty. I gave it out anyway. Plus fifty didn't have in penny sold. Went first okay and then the big long shots were devante williams the running back plus five hundred and the linebacker jeremiah. Core amoah plus five hundred to be the first linebacker drafted williams. I live running back drafted so williams went third. Et ended harris went ahead of them which was probably likely. I didn't realize we didn't find out 'til after the draft. Steve that allusive kor moa every only had a issue. We didn't go to like the fifties. And i was unaware that as well. I'll be curious when you have parsons on your pied. If you bring up the fact that he personally cost you a better us to jubal came up. Because i had him on the over thirteen and a half and he went twelve yeah. Hopefully he doesn't watch the show. We talked about it i. He knows that there were some character. Concerns off the field issues that people were worried about. I thought it would drop more and you know it might have steve. If it's amazing like it would be so fun to see how the draft unfolds at. The niners took mack jones at three or if carolina eight or denver at nine took a quarterback. So many things happen. Then the cowboys at ten takes 'certain than i don't know what the the the eagles probably sit there at twelve. I don't know what they do. Because i think the giants take devante. And i mean the whole thing is it really is a fascinating fascinating exercise. But then i did really well on your favorite bet steve. The over unders really well justin field plus one twenty over seven and a half boom and by the way i don't know of grades are greater on the money. I don't know if he went through in great all these. But i went back and listened and you can do the same or watched on youtube. Whatever but i had just field plus one twenty on the over seven and a half that hit kyle pits on the under five. And a half that hit caleb farley over twenty one and a half that was close steve twenty two. I didn't think he was gonna go twenty two That that one was close but ultimately it came through to get farley. He hit the over. Love guys like this with injuries or issues. Now it's possible. Have you ever thought about this. Ross when you came on and talked about how he didn't have feeling in two of his toes. That rose tucker personally could have sandbagged kalem farley in the draft. That information got out. So you 'cause caleb farley money perhaps but you want no because it was rappaport and palacio who had tweeted data had written about that. I just tweet about it and talked about it but It'd be nice if that was the case. The only over under i missed on what my parsons. Who i've known about since ninth grade. I met him when he was a junior in high school. I had over thirteen and a half. You went twelve the dallas. I still think if dallas doesn't take him he goes later than that but it doesn't matter that's what happened so that the no and then i got. I thought this is a great bet. City patrick 'certain under ten and a half at minus one fifty nine that was another. Yes so ultimately i hit one two three four out of five of my over unders one four of my long shots. I don't know what you call eric. Stokes plus one thirty top thirty two pick but so only one of the longshots cashed but four out of five on my over honors. Now for you steve. You had if you remember you back. Jalen waddell against devante smith head to head and that was clearly the right bet and it'd been trending that way although you never know it only takes one team to feel the opposite trouble but the narrative was out on smith the only weighs one hundred and eleven pounds and so i felt confident no. Gm was going to go ahead and eight. Kim before number nine. I thought that was a good chance. Waddell would be taken by that then. It was interesting to hear some year over unders. You had kyle trask under seventy two and a half that hit. He was the last kicker the second round by the bucks. What a great spot for him by the way doesn't have to play this year or probably even the year after can learn from the best in terms of slow quarterback with no mobility. And how brady gets it done. I love that pick by the bucks just because two years from now after trask behind brady for two years. Maybe he'll be ready. Maybe it'll be ready to be a competent quarterback. So you hit that. Steve you missed on najji harris over twenty five. And a half it is uncanny. I feel like the steelers. Just take whoever. Everybody mocks to him every year. Every every mark said nigeria's you weren't buying it. Guess what they took harris at twenty four. Steve and i was aware of the mocks. And i felt like hey you know the word is out. You don't draft running back until the very end of the first round. Apparently this year two teams felt different. Late so i was worried the only spot that he could fall to. I said it's pittsburgh i win. My bet well it was one that was very close for you. But it came through jalen phillips the d. n. From university of miami his total was eighteen and a half you took the under and he went eighteen batches close to get steve and that was interesting. The dolphins took him at eighteen. That one was very close. You won by half a half. Have a pick. And i'm sure there's some sharp betters out there that heard that peck and laughed at me. Saying i got phelps under twenty one and a half good luck with the under eighteen and and this is the difficult part about sports betting. Oftentimes year directionally right on a bet but if the line moves too much at some point you got to pass on it. Maybe i pushed it a little bit taking folks even at an eighteen and a half but we got there that we did. You had the over eleven and a half on devante smith which is of course funny because the eagles would take him at but then i think they believe the giants were gonna take him at eleven so they jumped in front of the giants at eleven to get the ten. Take him yet. Ultimately where i got beat was. We didn't get the quarterbacks algo early on and that elevated everybody up in the draft to get taken earlier and that's why i wound up losing. That battle should never made that. They should have just play waddell against smith. That was much stronger. Bet well we had three quarterbacks in the top ten when there was a lotta thought that might be five quarterbacks in the top ten that was the issue Then you get to really good bet by you. Christian darah sal over fifteen and a half and he ended up going. What twenty four. I think to the nine hundred twenty three to the minnesota vikings but you crush that one. Although they didn't trae down there's talk they wanna take a fourteen. I don't know if i believe that or not. But there's talk of that yet. Basically what happened. Was that vera. Tucker and darussalam were evaluated early in the process is being approximately equal but then come draft week. It was pretty clear that very tucker was going to be the guy that was going to go. Before and most marks Had fallen to the low twenty s ultimately that's where he wound up getting graft so i wanna get your thoughts on related to the nba. That was interesting and some of the season win total movement. We've seen. But i i need to make sure people learn from my mistakes and i'm not talking about betting on talking about waiting too long to start to do something about my hair loss. You know. I look back on my wedding now. Steve and i can see. I was starting to lose my hair at twenty six. I don't think i've always heard to do anything until my thirties. That was a mistake to add. Three men will experience some form of hair loss by the time. They're thirty five. You can keep the hair you have if you use keeps. That is the key though you need to do it. There are two. Fda approved medicines. Right a pill. I take every morning a topical solution. I rub on my bald spot in the morning and at night i have like keeps it a great name for the business. I have kept my hair since then. The fda doesn't approve stuff unless there are results. Like unless there's a they know that it works for people if you're ready to take action and prevent hair loss keeps dot com slash even money to receive your first month of treatment for free that's k. e. e. p. s. dot com slash. Even money to get your first month. Free keeps dot com slash. Even money so nice then. I had to go to the doctor or the drugstore. They just get right to your house. So steve we saw some line movement and the line movement post draft. Season win totals. People are getting nervous about the packers with this. Aaron rodgers stuff and the broncos people really seem a thank you. Mike are the broncos. I don't know if it was the report remarks. Larry or the fact that the broncos didn't draft the quarterback but it certainly seems like there's some people that think this trade to the broncos might have. Yes what's interesting. Is that drafted south. Almost no movements in the future of the season wins A couple of exceptions atlanta falcons went up from seven. Wins two seven an ass markets. Love the fact. They went with tight end. They're gonna stick with ryan stability bump them up half a win but most of the movement is not associate with the draft. It's associated with news and you nailed it. The aaron rodgers news so green bay off the board for all of their beds but the dominoes are falling in terms of the implications of what could happen. So aaron rodgers right now minus one twenty five to with the packers to start the season so he's only a small favourite when we're mighty go well denver end. The raiders are tuva spots that have been discussed. Denver's been the one spot that has been favored in the lines. Which is curious to me because denver does not have a competent quarterback to trade green. Bay you'd think the raiders would be the favorite. The bottom line is denver season win. Number was seven just a week ago. Now it's eight and three quarters nine juice to the under so big movement and it makes sense if denver should get aaron rodgers. How much is that upgrade worth. While then denver season win number probably should be eleven instead of seven and a half. Vegas is what the difference and made it just a little bit less than nine. The raiders are the most curious team. They were lying at seven and a half. Now they can get rodgers. Their numbers going to go up probably nine or so. However the raiders season with number ross has dropped to seventy have actually gone down despite which should be positive news with rogers. I'm kind of surprised. But by this i don't think the markets liked the leatherwood pick in the first round. But the raiders got a good pick in the second round. The safety mooring. So it doesn't seem like that news should be enough to lower the raiders. I think the narrative among the sharks is the raiders have overachieved the last two years. You look it up into games. They won versus. How many points they were outscored by the sharks. Do not like this raider team. I don't think they liked ruin and their team. They wanna bet against while that's interesting very interesting you would think it would go out and i mean i guess you don't know but i i'm going to take that under on the broncos i'm tempted to think the packers are not gonna let rogers go and take the under nine with drew lock and teddy bridgewater quarterback steve. What do you think yeah really good roster for denver but drew lock one of the three worst. Starting quarterbacks teddy bridgewater should beat him out. I've got bridge water rated. I think right around. Twenty second best. But i gotta be honest. The fact that bridgewater gets run out of town for sam darnold who would know better than carolina in terms of out. Good bridgewater is that is not a ringing endorsement. I know you also have one. Nba observations day. Before we wrap up the show looks. Like steve froze. Maybe we'll just wrap up the show like that. I can tell you what it was. Okay he had a power surge. He just texted me anyway. He said the number six seed in the nba is very very important. So that's what you need to know number sixteen. Nba very important when it comes to their futures and the betting. That doesn't happen very often. Were during the show. Steve gets a power surge. I other than that next week. Very likely surprise guests looking forward to it and we'll get into season win total numbers again pretty soon as well. Check out andrew brandt tomorrow on the ross tucker football podcast best authority out there. As of late this aaron rodgers stuff so it will be absolutely great to get his thoughts on what he thinks will happen there from betting perspective for the broncos and the packers other than that. Good luck everybody. Who wins the money. Thanks for listening to the even money. Podcast lake sure to also subscribe to the russ tucker football podcast. The fantasy feast business of sports and the college draft all available at apple podcasts. Radio tucker dot com or wherever podcasts can be found time on the show. I mentioned draftkings. Here's what you need to know. You gotta be twenty one or older new jersey. Indiana pennsylvania new customers only restrictions apply see draftkings dot com slash sportsbook for details gambling problem. Call one hundred gambler in indiana one hundred nine with it by the way if i was talking about included a deposit bonus doesn't always does deposit bones require twenty five times playthrough and deposit bonuses are paid out in sight credit.

steve ross tucker Mike parsons nfl trae lance Steve football vegas youtube Joe horn andrew brandt smith russ tucker caleb farley Slash ross tucker aaron rodgers packers Steve hello ross broncos Ross
April 30th: CRP 4X4 VIP Guests  Kevin Lytle and Brady Hull

NoCo Now ? 1310 KFKA

27:27 min | 6 months ago

April 30th: CRP 4X4 VIP Guests Kevin Lytle and Brady Hull

"Eighteen welcome back in and they'll cornell am swint Thanks for being with us on this friday and in your best jokes Today for chance to win the twenty dollar gift card to the tavern at saint michael's square joining me now One of our era p. Four by four vip guests. It is kevin idol With the colorado and kevin. What did you what were your takeaways from the first round of the nfl draft last night. it's always interesting to observe especially the quarterback or almost things it's just baffling how. Nfl teams evaluate quarterbacks. Be very honest Staying here so we know how i like. Those reasons dies rise and all bad quarterback position. I think we're we're having kevin's voice. I didn't know this is going to be possible. Kevin kevin's voice sounded. Maybe a little bit worse than mine and i. It wasn't actually as voice. It was just the just the phone connection. So we're gonna try this again. Trying to get kevin lionel while backup on the hotline There is a the. Nfl draft it was. I don't know why. I was so intrigued last night but i was. I was definitely more intrigued than in years past Don't just because you know we miss it last or or what it was you know as an roger goodell's basement last year but Unless we kevin backup. Kevin sorry about that So you were saying yeah. It's it's always weird to me watching the quarterbacks rise and slide For kind of weird reasons you know they play their whole career and then somehow what we view of them or what. Nfl teams view of them just dramatically in a couple of months based on Sweatpants workouts basically which is always weird to me. Yeah so we'll see we'll see how Those quarterbacks do the order they were picked in the order. I would've necessarily You know ranked the quarterbacks. But i'm also not paid a ton of money to do that. So so we'll see how it goes but That's kind of one of the things. I always enjoy watching broncos specifically i know a lot of people were hoping for the fields pick and i think that could have been Interesting one by. I think patrick certaines a good one and a pretty safe on top corners. Generally don't miss. I mean obviously there are some examples but for the most part they tend to be pretty pretty Well evaluated. I thought it was. I thought it was interesting. How it all went down. Starting with trae lance go in go number three to the to the forty niners but you add a host of receivers. I mean a bunch of receivers. They're went in that first round. Obviously the one The one that we're we're looking for in wondering when he's going to go his warren jackson out of the colorado state. What are your thoughts. Yeah he's guy obviously. We knew he wouldn't go yesterday pretty much. He won't go today in around two or three but after that pretty wide open i mean some people have him go off. And maybe a fourth fourth round pick Number of people don't have him being selected all i do think he's gonna be drafted You know the the team or excuse me his family and everything that's the indication they're getting from. Nfl teams. I know their phone has been blowing up with with various team stock in them. Which of course is normal and doesn't mean he's going to get drafted but i just don't see how guy you know six six Great hands you know. Some of the games. He's had against arkansas alabama things like that. I would be stunned if someone doesn't take a flyer on him he's also good kid too. They don't have any. You know off. The field worries either. So i i would have to think. Someone's taking a flyer on him if you had. If you forced me into picking around i would say. I'm gonna say sticks that you you knew i was going to force you into it so you just went ahead with. Just say what you're doing. Talk with kevin lytle here with fort collins colorado and kevin excuse my voice here Starting to go out on me. I was cheering last night. I guess at the nfl draft But any other any other car seat rams that That have the possibility of being drafted in this. Yes the funny thing. yeah normally. There's in a typical year for ceus. You i'd say there's usually one or two guys that are in the draft mix and a few others that you know maybe again lay or will certainly be free agents but this year Because the kobe did not you know this year not counting almost all of us top seniors or all of them really are coming back for another year to play another year of college football. All the guys you know Scott patch in the manny jones. Even ryan stonehouse your or you know some of those guys that would maybe be in the mix They're back for another year of college football. So warren jackson literally the only person. That's you know even anywhere near The conversation so he's the only one to track which is kind of another unique side effect of this co video talking with kevin lionel the fort collins colorado i. It's it's nice to see that the draft at least taking place in familiar fashion it was. It was nice to see roger goodell. Buddha has always but How long you talk you kind of building on what you were talking about their Kevin how long before we start to see more normal see from all the way from the preps all the way to the pro game because this is changed recruiting. This has changed when kids to college. The eligibility issues. We know now. They've got an extra year so Some of these kids graduating from high school may have to wait longer to play because these kids got. There's it's just a mess. How long before this resolves itself. Yeah i mean there's so many different Like you say different fingers. You can follow to this. The the extra year of eligibility is gonna have long term impacts. Because you know. I think the ones that are getting hit. The most are kids who are either juniors or seniors in high school right now. They're seeing scholarships be squeezed because They're being retained by kids. Who were supposed to be graduating and leaving. But but now they're come back for another year and so. I don't think we're gonna know you know for several years. Really how that affects. Everyone is having effect. You know Schools are allowed to increase their scholarship limits. A bit but to do that you have to pay you know you have to finance it and most schools obviously through with covid impacts. They're not really eager to pay a bunch. More through scholarships. So you know. Schools aren't doing that so the long-term else side effects so to speak are definitely going be there But what will that mean. Well it means some talent. It's gonna spread out you know further you know which could be a good thing that could be good for college sports or or will it. Just get squeeze more. I don't know But but we are getting closer to moving back to our normal. You mentioned recruiting Starting basically start june coaches can recruit recruits can visit campuses. Things like that. So that's a really positive staffing you know. And that's as good for the high schoolers as it is the colleges and and you know even high school sports were starting to feel a little more normal or seeing some restrictions with it as we move into this d spring season. They're all outdoor sports. So we're getting there. Yeah we certainly aren't. It feels good to be headed in that direction. Talking with kevin lytle of the fort collins colorado and you talked a little bit about about some of the high school stuff to Can we we. Don't talk a whole lot of soccer on this program and that's something that you probably wish we did But i'm gonna give you the opportunity to talk some high school soccer right now. Windsor windsor Playing pretty well right now. i i've heard. Yeah you've got that right. It's the same time. Windsor is playing in the four day state. Championship game Tomorrow at noon at the news soccer stadium in colorado springs. The first off. I'm really excited to see that stadium. A second and more importantly is windsor. They're going center. I boys soccer title in history. This is already. The furthest soccer program has ever made it. I just a really good team. I mean top to bottom. They're really strong defensively Really good midfield and then I have to talk about their attack. You know they won one against niwa in the quarterfinals. A late goal. By john. Burnett and john burnett is the guy that having a postseason for the ages. They played three playoff games. He has six goals. He had two goals in the quarterfinal Or semi final. I mean Three goals in the quarterfinals. So he's just he's not your for a player of the year. I'm not sure what's going on there so really cool really fun thing. You know as you guys know. Windsor obviously can really get behind their sports so it's kinda exciting for for the soccer team to get the buzz that they have right now. Is the best boy soccer team. They've they've ever had and some of these stories. can it can be a little overlooked. Because of it's just people are not used to to okay. Here's where the the teams are playing. Now here's where like volleyball regionals. It does not feel like there should be happening this weekend. Yeah exactly. I mean obviously like you. They volleyball and soccer to those sports normally are in the the fall. So it's very weird to have them happening now And it's you know it's taking last. You know right now is normally club season for both those sports and so you have teams players kind juggling both and trying to work together and you know some are some. Aren't you know how how that can go. Sometimes but but obviously It's working out well for windsor. And yeah that's coach phil his saying the other day goes you know to the kids you know had been a year and a half since they played a high school game. Yeah until a couple of months ago but they stuck with it and here they are i. It's it's definitely paying dividends now kevin. Okay kevin so. You'd say in the sixth round for four warren jackson there. You are you minnesota. Vikings fan is not wrong guy but sure whatever you want why did i have it in my head that you were vikings gay. I couldn't possibly tell you my friend. I i have no idea either. I apologize about that okay. So then that's the way i wanted to go. I didn't really want the vikings anyways. What did you think about The broncos a passing on chesterfield. I was when he fell. Or whatever you wanna call. It was available there. I thought they might go for him but again. I'm not fully covering that program or anything kind of All along that. They weren't picked a quarterback this year Partially because new. gm Know you you don't wanna put down your back right away. If you create the drama of you know lock verse field Or what what do you do with you know. Lock if draft fields already create drama in the field doesn't the guy you're already under pressure as new gym. Where now you take you know. Teddy bridgewater in a low risk trade. You have drew lock. Give them both kinda one year to see if they can look like. They're the guy if not you go find a quarterback next year so i wasn't shocked. I would've been intrigued. Because i i think fields will be good. But i wasn't shocked by it. And i do think 'certain is a safe good tech right. I love it all right. Kevin appreciate your time. What are you working on my man. Well obviously it'll be following the draft Following volleyball regions about to head out fossil ridge associate in town here in about an hour a weird friday morning For whatever reason actually reasons prom another another sign. Things are getting back to normal schedules there. We go And then The windsor state championship game tomorrow. We'll be down there in colorado springs to cover that i love it Kevin appreciate your time as always my friend. And thanks for jumping on last minute here and and joining us and we'll talk with you on tuesday. Thanks for having me thanks. Kevin love the fort collins colorado on Appreciate his. It'll be interesting to warn checks and that i think it's going to be a steel somewhere. That kid the kid can play. But you know the fact that we didn't he didn't he opted out of this year. Does that hurt his draft stock. Does that mean like people have forgotten about him. I don't know But appreciate kevin love joining us to talk about that as always We got a house up for sale desert pending your clary real estate and they've got a five bedroom three bath great place over in eaten. It is Posted on a cle- real estate dot com also on our facebook page. We shared it over there. check it out Desert petting her nose northern colorado. You know it's a it doesn't hurt to look never heard look desert pinger clary real estate ten thirty one. Let's get to the bottom of our news and weather center here mornings with gail weekdays. Six to nine and northern colorado's voice thirteen ten. Kfi breathe for a minute. Welcome back in. Today's cardio should incorporate some more cardio may no not me breathe. I thought well thanks for coming. Welcome to the program could be out of shape that that's the same thing. It's not birdie holes here. I'm sure he's going to spew some some dumb things about the nfl draft. You like this pick absolutely love it. Patrick 'certain you. The the mic is yours. What do you think why. Why will you needed a corner because because two of the corners on your roster will not be there next year vic fangio plays more nickel and dime than probably anybody in the nfl. There's odds are going to have three to four cornerbacks on the field most of the time and let's face it eleven. Ten other teams passed on justin fields. What do they know that we don't chicago got him. Chicago's a great evaluator of quarterbacks. Right to name the name. Their best quarterback in their history jay cutler. Yeah sata's that love the pick. Because this bolsters defense i would've. I would've probably rather seen mike parsons. I like justin field. He was but he was actually at the top of my board. It was just feels mike. Parsons and patrick. 'certain kind of a tie there. Honestly i said as long as one of those guys goes to the broncos. I'll be happy. I just feels like i feel like this is the question that needs to be answered. Is denver in win now mode or are they in build mode. Because i feel like they're kind of torn george payton. Has this longer term plan but vic fangio's not going to be around long term and so where are you going with this long. You've got kyle fuller out there you gotta you got ron ronald darby. Bryce callahan michael ojemudia can go to. Oj moody could probably play them safety to. They're going to move him around or you. Just you just gonna keep josie jewel and ebony. Johnson is your linebacker alexander. Xanthi anthony johnston's a ufc fighter but. Yeah so those are the be the to be your linebacker. Johnson will be. You're starting loans. You've rather had michael person. I i would rather mike parsons skill in fact that was my pick last night that the broncos were not going to get a quarterback predicted that right but they were gonna take michael. Parsons i i still. I still like. Because your franchise quarterback is not on this roster right. Now i mean and i must. There must be something there. But what i mean what is that what is it. That's holding six out fly. He's only played sixteen games. Their offensive line was much better last year. They talented web quarterback spot on time but they must feel that drew lock or teddy bridgewater they. They're comfortable going in to the season with that. We're gonna have zak. Stevens of dnv denver broncos on at twelve. Oh five. Today he just re tweeted. What basically the broncos brass just said about the quarterback. They asked him about the quarterback room now and they said we're good. We're good we're good with this room. That is so weird to me. I mean that that is not a super bowl caliber. You know quarterback room right. now Do you really think like justin. Herbert was really good last year. But right chargers weren't really good. So do you really think justin fields is starting game one. Suddenly the broncos are a contender their playoff team in june next year just just. The field joins us team. I think that their playoff team. Do you think with the improvements. They've done to this defense. And i think that the way that that the progression from you know caja hamblur and and jerry jeudy and gear polls for that matter continuing to get better on that often a believe that everything around them so good now. That dreadlock has no choice but to be a little bit better which he just needs to be you just to not lose games for them. He's not gonna win right right. But i mean that's teddy bridgewater in a nutshell right. So you who's who's the starting quarterback drew lock is going to win the competition. you think. So yeah i think the ceiling drew lock is is much higher. So you're gonna you want this to work out. Like the broncos are really wanting this to work out so they're going to give him every shot because bridgewater's you got one year with them and how much longer is he gonna play in the nfl. He's had so many injuries so they want desperately drew lock to be the guy and we're gonna find out with a whole host of the whole show so some other crazy stuff went on yesterday. Oh aired out. Not not. Tim tebow try to win. Great story aaron rodgers has been telling people that he wants out of green bay inside of the organization for the draft stupid move by him right before the draft have enough time to put anything together. Marsh eth comes out and says this is as close to a done deal as there can be than aaron. Rodgers is coming to the denver. Broncos what was there just absolutely no truth to that or was it a smoke screen or what was what was that. What are you giving for him. Because san francisco offered that pick number three funchess second round stuff bunch of other things and the packers said no. So what are you. What's denver got that. They were next year's first round pick while hopefully denver's not a top ten so the one thing. Here's here's a little conspiracy theory. And hopefully i'm right Number nine what's the green bay packers biggest need as a young cornerback. A young Defensive star could this be some sort of a sign and trade type of thing. They drafted eric. Stokes with the twenty ninth pick and they killed that needed corner so they don't need a corner anyway. I don't know patrick kane is if they would've metrics retains better than you were gonna go that route. Why not draft a different player than another player of a musician of nearly that deep back maybe they just need that much help on the defensive side of the ball. I just want aaron rodgers to come to denver care what it takes switching from which that got weird that whole story to lawson hang out real weird. Dig it weird. And it's not to ever if if he settles denise. Does it go away. I don't know we don't talk about and he still plays. I don't know how you don't talk about that though. That's he's a creepy dude. Yeah i would say away from it. I was any team. I'd stay away right i. I'm switching my tone there. But i mean he. He's a creepy dude. If if it was going to be three first round picks two second-round picks and a third for shawn. Maybe a player. What what is the price for aaron rodgers. who's thirty seven years old. excuse me. I don't think it's that high. I don't think it's just a traffic. I think it's the first round pick. And maybe player and i would do that. I don't like. I don't like packaging a ton of picks especially when you have a general manager that says we're going to build through the draft year in your. Would you send courtland sutton first round. Pick for in rogers. I would do that. Yeah me too. But i don't think that's i don't think the packers it's gonna it's gonna take some more pigs it's gonna take a second round or somebody to take more. I think it's going to be a lot more pricey but this the silly thing was if aaron rodgers was that serious about this why did he let us leak yesterday. You have no time. You would have let a leak a week ago. You have time to start putting things together. Teams start thinking about it. Teams are not going to tap. San francisco was the only one we know of. But they they package that maybe the packers and realize how much aaron rodgers really wants to our. They're adamant that they're going anywhere. And they said we're we're gonna pass this. We're gonna make it right if you if rodgers really wanted. Our should've said this a week ago because then the packers go all right. He's not just and then you're thinking all right. Here's an opportunity for the packers rodgers right and drafting a weapon in the first round of the draft a corner. I can't remember talking that the the packers have been flirting with every other girl at the party. They got one girls now with jordan love right and they're so prized when I think when when when aaron rodgers is upset with that. So it's just weird how that's going. On what percentage chance would you give it the broncos for market laura. I don't have insiders like he does But i mean that was a big miss and he still could potentially still make. I guess i guess you backed off. I haven't seen as he backed off. I haven't seen anything to report otherwise. But i'm gonna. i'll indicate otherwise. I'm going to have zack. On from dvr broncos at twelve. Oh five search surely. He'll start to unpack some of that. But the percentage chance. I don't think it's realistic. Not i just don't i mean. They had a chance to draft a young quarterback aaron rodgers. thirty seven. Why would you when you had a chance to get a quarterback. Why now would you load up and and you know sell the farm for a guy that will be thirty eight when he starts his season next year but he's coming off being the mvp right. But how long does that last. It's the same tom. Brady question doesn't look like he's got any signs of slowing down. I don't know point. Obviously father time william nowadays with so as with you gamble not to down when he slows down. He's going to be too late and if he slows down next year. Trade it all your life. I don't know if it's going to be next year. I just find that hard to believe an apparent the report was was that that The packers told rogers they were trade him in the offseason then backed off of that. And then it's been a bleep show ever since taking san francisco offer absolutely offer right absolutely but the the. What are the niners doing taking trait. I mean trey lance at number three. That's high at thought but Interesting first round. So what do you see denver doing here in round number two of the nfl draft. Do they go linebacker or do they Do they were they go here. The guy that. I like that. I don't know if he'll be available is jeremiah. Awo sue core mora. He is the best player or names. Like on the Available out of notre dame the linebacker. He's one i suggested. Denver if they were gonna trade out a top nine move back acquire another second round pick and go get him in the second round. He's the best available. I do see that. The broncos going there's also a and you're gonna love this disease. Og laurie out of georgia. Those are both guys. You just said it. You don't want to go to camp with alexander. Johnson and josie jewel. Well you got to take care of it. You got to really good linebackers. But we'll probably go the top five. Can the broncos move up in the second round actually think. The second round is pretty interesting linebacker defense. Well that's a tough stub. Orange have ninety seven credible quarterbacks that i just don't understand the weak spot last year again was often and where specifically well. It was the quarterback play. So wh what have they done to. I mean brought teddy bridgewater and for its sixth round. Pick you haven't addressed your biggest concern. I i like what george peyton is done. I love the koffler citing. I think it's a great move. I've been sick. People that are texting today. This is terrible. Move clearly have listened to my show in the last two years to two months. Because i've been saying patrick 'certain he was actually my number one. Two months ago i would've gone him over everybody denver then i started to like just feels a little more. Then i started to think. Maybe it's gonna be a possibility that falls people. Call me crazy about that. I was one of them. I think i called all the way to eleven chicago goes and gets him. Somebody knows something we don't. I don't know it it's i. It's so weird to me. How how people over analyze these guys play their tire college careers and then over the the the time of however many months they just fall and for what reason and and these different things. We kind of sometimes over analyze a little bit last week. Want to get your thoughts on mac. Go to new england. Yeah new england. I thought they were going to get aggressive and try to steal justin fields from from denver. But they knew something as well stood stood pat. And they're still. Bill checks the same guy though that this morning guy what happened last time The patriots drafted a little. Bit of a pudgy. pudgy dude. Little pudgy white dude. Worked out pretty well for the works out again. So obviously you gotta lotta reaction zak stevens going up. What else he got on the whole show this harrison wind of dvr nuggets. We'll talk a lot of nuggets today for them was actually. This is going to be an interesting segment today. I'm talking to my chiropractor on the air today. Yes yes. I'm talking to him on the he's coming by he's actually crack your back while you're they don't really know they're not really like that. I like it. I'll be looking forward to it by the way we found a new hangout. Spot the shop yesterday. Thousand great play was so good so good. I'll tell you more about it. Would you need to get a break. Thank you so much for stopping by and spreading some wisdom. You're so if that's what you call it back down right here. In northern cowardice voice. Thirteen ten gave k.

nfl warren jackson colorado broncos soccer kevin lionel kevin kevin lytle fort collins Kevin teddy bridgewater roger goodell saint michael's square kevin idol Kevin kevin aaron rodgers vic fangio kevin backup justin fields
Cowboys Glass Half Full

Cowboys Beat

37:06 min | 6 months ago

Cowboys Glass Half Full

"Today is Friday April 16th. This is the Cowboys beat clns media Thursday morning tempted. Want to send a personal thank you to everybody for listening to today's episode wanting to talk about the NFL draft. Of course if my good buddy. Miller, you're not going to want to miss Dalton and and it's funny because in my conversation with Dalton. I've got a heaping helping of optimism today. So thank you Dalton for making me optimistic or helping me to see optimism where I previously had been lost by some of the Clutter and I'll explain all that coming up because today I want to make sure that we focus in on realistic expectations for the Cowboys in 2021 but also let's not lose sight of what is the reality facing this team in 2021? As much as there might be some disappointment over the offseason and and in in approach in an a continued approach. Let's not lose sight of the important things about what I'm looking for. The 2021 Cowboys. It's all that the second but first thanks for checking out today's episode and I've been urging each and every one of you each week. Do me a favor. If you're listening to this your Cowboys fan telephone know if each one of you that listeners podcast told another friend about this podcast, then we would see some pretty cool growth and I Love This Cowboy's community that we have and I've engaged with so many of you whether it's through text messaging or you know through email through Twitter. So I appreciate each and every one of you and and hope that you see the value in this community as much as I see the value in this little Cowboys community that we've we've created here, wherever you're you're listening to this streaming this whether it's on an apple on Spotify on TuneIn Radio on Pandora. We're on the the on Pocket Casts on Google podcasts, wherever make sure you're following along. Make sure you subscriber hit follow up and make sure to give us a rating if if the platform you're listening on provides that opportunity because it helps other people find the podcast as well and I urge you to help me grow because I mean if you're in this you like Cowboys you maybe like me, so I'd urge you to help me grow by telling people tell your friends just a one friend I have until you're just just one friend is all I ask I'd be very appreciative to that that today's episode brought to you by betonline.ag. Betonline.ag is your online Sportsbook expert. So the big news of the week would be that as expected the Cowboys did not retain the services of Aldon Smith. This decision had been already made but Alden Smith officially signs at the Seahawks. You know and and I've been complaining throughout the offseason about the Cowboys approach and free agency and and maybe it's try to time to try to you know, do something different for a change but you know, you gotta give it to the Cowboys they they do to their philosophy in many ways. It is successful. Whether or not getting bogged down by bad long-term contracts to players outside the organization, you know, they believe in the players that they evaluate and draft they you know, believe in the philosophy of you know, signing outside Freedom sit low costs and then letting him walk short-term deals low costs. Let them walk get compensatory picks as a product that you know, and then reload the draft and and you know look again. I I would love to see the Cowboys sign difference-makers on defense. I would love to see the Cowboys sign a difference-maker on defense. I'd love to see them invest in their defense will see if they've done enough in free agency to improve their defense enough the way that they have but You know this not signing all the Smith letting him walk. He goes to Seattle the Cowboys can get a compensatory pick out of it. I mean this is this is what they do, right? They sign guys on the cheap way. They they aren't going to be forfeiting compensatory picks by doing it. They're going to just accumulate a bunch of pics and the more pics you have the more swings you get at it and more opportunities. You have to hit on pics home and you know Cowboys have done very well in the draft so, you know again, It can be a frustrating and at times maddening approach but it is their approach they've stuck to it. They built a pretty decent roster with that approach and you know, this draft is 10 pics with that approach so they get ten swings at it. So, you know that that's that's really all there is to it when it comes to all the Smithsonian elsewhere. There's another report that came out this week from Clarence Hill the Fort Worth Star-Telegram where he's talking about they could have signed AJ bouye or Malcolm Butler and and like I mean that does not fit the Cowboys approached Cowboys are not going to go after guys the other side of 30 and free agency and give them contracts. It's not going to do it off. I I do believe that the Cowboys will sign a veteran or perhaps multiple veteran Corners before this thing. They said and done. I do not believe they'll be names you've heard of Perhaps if they are they'll still be on the cheap. We'll see you know, what I was thinking about today's show and what I should talk about, you know, obviously everybody's gone home about the draft of the Cowboys do a 10:00 and obviously if you go back and listen, you can hear my thoughts on what the Cowboys should do at 10. I don't want to belabor that point and the reason the reason I decided to kind of focus on something else today because You can find immediate difference makers in the draft you can but I think the fallacy in some ways of the draft is the dramatic and and Dead full and packed that rookies can have your one especially because the core of your team is built around the veterans that you have. There's there's just difficult transitions to make a lot of guys don't make a proper transitions into their rookie year doesn't mean they're not going to be very players just means it takes time, you know, it takes time. So I sell that to say like the roster of the Cowboys have right now how long it's going to improve to the draft. We know that but at the same time like we can evaluate this roster right now and have a pretty good idea of what this team is going to look like this season. And so even though again they're going to improve their roster to the draft. At this point in time. We have a pretty good idea of what the Cowboys have twenty Twenty-One going to look like. And so that was why it's much as I go back to a nobody great to see them invest, you know, it's something significant at corner and look they have its safety. I mean he can't say they haven't as nice as it would be to make a big splash move like a Richard Sherman, right? the Cowboys in their current constitution Are pretty good football team and I think sometimes it happened to the off-season as you get so caught up in you know moves. They don't make you can get off early. So caught up in how the season ended last year. And and so it's it's I think in some ways skewing reality. I mean, I think in some ways, you know, go back to this part last year and there was a lot of optimism both, you know throughout Dallas but also in the National media, I don't know that I've seen as much optimism on this team this year and I'm trying to figure out why we now know more money. Then we did last year cuz there were a lot of unknowns going to last year. Right? I mean Dak Prescott in a contract year with Mike McCarthy coming in and so we got a lot of answers that now sort of inform how to look at this team into this season's the upcoming season. And so that's where it's like if we took a realistic look where the Cowboys are right now. And and just really dwell on. Okay. What are they look like on their offensive line would look like a receiver. What do they look like at quarterback? What are they look like running back where they look like on the defensive side of football. Like we just take stock of all these things and yet what do me wrong. There are questions. They're significant questions, but I also think of the same time and and there there are holes. There are significant holes mainly on the defense of the football game like so many there's so many more questions about the team last year so many more unknowns to our now. It's like we have a pretty good idea of what Mike McCarthy wants to do. We're pretty good idea that the defense didn't work last year and that they're going to come with a more simplified approach defensively with Dan Quinn who my God just by showing up will become a better defensive coordinator than what they had last year. They're going to have a scheme that probably leverages the skills that are players better. Like they're just to me more than anything way easier to figure out this year than they were last year. We were way below optimistic about the team. Let's cheer. That's what's crazy sort of lost sight of a deck got her. There are tons of injuries and this team is built when an offense when they had to rely on their defense. It was like everything was going to go to hell we knew that. So when I sit back and get that like thirty thousand foot view of this team right now and take stock of where they are. Cowboys have one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Okay, wherever you want to put Dak Prescott you wanted to 10 best quarterbacks in the NFL. It's got you can win with. If you're one of the best receiving Corps in the NFL could potentially even upgrade that in the draft. But who knows because again, Tough to make a huge impact certain positions can immediately but but I digress like even if they don't address the wide receiver position at all in the draft, they're going to be loaded at wide receiver. They're still good at running back as much flag as he takes like he's still he's still a top-flight top-level running back and and and then you still have Pollard behind him. So you're still like you're still you're fine running back. Like let's not lose sight of the fact that even though we wanted to see the Cowboys dramatically improved their defense. They've improved their defense. Maybe it's not dramatic, but they've improved their defense and we I mean we thought about it through some of the signings they've made you know, but Brent Urban to me. Very underappreciated signing for the Cowboys. This is this is a guy that's like a this is like a I should say a typical Cowboy signing where you buy low on a guy and you know, he comes and it's like all of a sudden like where this guy come from. He suddenly playing a lot more snaps, you know, he's way more in position, you know, as a guy that can really play well against the Run running rushing the interior. I mean, they added, you know, Carlos Watkins and other guy it falls into that category, you know, I think they think they've improved swing tackle and tie and seki I do think it's an improvement. They they've improved their safeties so like overall The offense is a loaded. Or certainly question about the health of the offensive line moving forward. But the offense is loaded. And the defense has improved they're no longer counting on to 6 round picks its safety and maybe just maybe they invest a little bit in the draft and safety do to sort of supplement the depth. They don't have but faith in KC and Neil even proved your safety position pretty substantially you bring in urban and Watkins, you've you've upgraded your defensive line rotation substantially and I just keep going back to this. Like they don't need to have an elite defense. They have an elite offense. They don't need to have it only defense. It just needs to not be terrible and I'm I'm pretty close to being ready to say that I don't think that this defense is going to be terrible. I mean again, we all want a dramatic upgrades that would scream for the mountaintops. This team is going to be better defensively the thing is even if we're not even if it's not screaming even if there's not like neon signs flashing bright bright as you could put like this defense is better it is it is it's it is under appreciating lie better. That's the best way to say it like is it remarkably better is incredibly better. No. But it is a lot better defensively than I think it's getting credit for it. Again. This goes back to like what our expectations last your expectations. We're so skewed become a good this offense was that I was like whoa, whoa everybody calm down. This defense might be bad not being brutal this year off at 2 still really good another year with Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore. So I mean, you've got a really good quarterback with Kellen Moore's offense. That's that's been phenomenal. It's putting up points is going to put up yards that's going to it's going to be up there with anybody else in the National Football League with a defense that is dead is better. significantly better probably but considerably under appreciating leave better than it was last year. So the same optimism we had for last year's team and talking about the Super Bowl as crazy as that sounds after the season. They just had but remember what the injuries they had sit back you looking at like God, it's crazy how expectations this year are probably closer to where they should be the opportunity for the Cowboys to far exceed them Cowboys got kind of caught in a firestorm last new coach walk into a situation. He was completely unprepared for that's his fault by the way, but with covid-19 prepared and schematics and blah blah blah, like it just seems like they are way better positioned. This year both from an expectation standpoint. and from a continuity standpoint I think the Cowboys are are Super Bowl contenders I do. I dunno maybe I'm looking at through Cowboys colored glasses or I'm a homer whatever it is, but I mean, it's an offensive League Cowboys are built to win an offense. They have a really good explosive offense like There's no reason why the expectations for this team this year. And I just mean like let's look at it realistically realistically we probably have to expectations last year our expectations. This year are much more tempered. Those are in line with where they should be. But that doesn't mean that we can't look at last year and say but this team is better than last year's team going to the season right like from roster standpoint roster makeup standpoint. The team right now is better. And they're still going to improve the roster there the draft and potentially still too afraid to see maybe in through trade. where they said in April 15th This is a team that we thought we want to Superbowl last year and the roster has gotten better. I'll stop the draft with my good buddy who's incredible on the on scouting and and looking at prospects. Miller joins the show next but first, let me tell you about deadline. I've been telling you about betonline.ag for years now. It's the fastest and easiest way to bet on all your Sports Action, but we know obviously footballs in the rear-view mirror, but you can bet on the the association you can bet on the NHL Major League Baseball. You can look at future in the NFL. What were the Cowboys are in terms of wind totals you can bet on the draft my goodness. You can bet on a ward shows the Oscars coming up television shows reality television. There is just no shortage of action that online. A g but online has a real-time updated odds and props almost anything you could ever imagine also has you covered for all the news scoresandodds. It's the best way to place your bets and it's free to sign up ahead of the website or use your mobile device up today and receive your 50% Welcome bonus in your first deposit here that free money off. 50% welcome bonus with your first deposit just to make sure to use a promo code clns fifty two letters c l n s fifty boom 50% Welcome bonus don't sell the sidelines anymore. Get in on the action. Don't forget to use the promo code clns 50 to receive a 50% Welcome bonus the first deposit, but online your online Sportsbook experts on the Cowboys beat. Let's visit with my buddy Dalton Miller from 1:05 through the fan and you can also catch his work and the pro football network draft stuff. You still have blue chip scouting as well. I used to work with them. So I own it, but I don't work on it to anything with your delegate. I have delegated it completely. All I do is that when new guys join office, they asked me they say hey can we get him joined up and then I have to get into the the website in Squarespace and send them the permission to be able to work on the site wage. So and so that's literally all I do I even paid they started doing merch I didn't know about it. They started doing merch and I bought a sweatshirt the company that I own. All right. Well if you want to buy a sweatshirt go to Blue Chips county.com Dalton, let's talk about the draft. It's just a few weeks away. Who do you have your eye on for the Cowboys and not just at 10 but just in general who are guys that you're like, okay, these are guys that could fall into them at any round that you like. Yeah. So I think that's the guy that I'm most, you know, kind of excited about being there for the Cowboys specifically in around 2, because I think in round one, there's actually a lot of possibilities pain a soul might actually somehow faithful to the Dallas Cowboys. Really you think so, yes. So there's kind of a two-horse race there if Cincinnati stupidly in my opinion goes with jamarr Chase over. So Panic, so then in in that instance, so the only other real option most likely is Carolina. What about Atlanta at 4? You don't think Atlanta goes for how long they could but Atlanta's offensive line is actually not too too bad and they've spent a bunch of assets there. I think Atlanta might go met might be the team for Kyle pads is Atlanta Atlanta. Also just go for quarterback and get Matt Ryan's future replacement. And for that specifically I think that's a good spot for trail ants but if he doesn't go to one of those two teenage any should but there's a real possibility that he doesn't there's also just a real possibility that the NFL likes the the Comfort level that were Sean Slater brings over the upside of panic. So and now I think appendix was already a better player than Rashawn Slater is but Rashawn Slater's got a very transparent floor and it's very very dead. Hi, and so the the words you're going to get with Rashawn Slater is a very good guard at the NFL level and somebody who I think can play tackle too. Pretty high level. I don't think he's ever get a top, you know, five left hand full in the NFL or top-five right tackle, but I think you can be you know in that six to ten range consistently but pending sought 10:00 is the name that I'm kind of circling for the Cowboys off at 44. He fought to Mellow van wheel that is the quarterback from Syracuse. I just think you know, especially if they miss out or take somebody else at 10, I think that would be a great fit in a cover-3 scheme. I mean big he's athletic he is not his brother OB he understands that his brother had flaws I've talked to him was that he was probably over drafted because of his athletic profile and he knows that he was kind of soft and he is he very much doesn't he didn't say Thursday? But that's what like he intimated that a little bit and so I think that he really tries to be go that extra mile to be physical as a corner. Especially it comes to you know, defending the run and going up and attacking screens and then man like the draft really sets up pretty good for them to you know, maybe get a linebacker or a defensive tackle with that third round pick linebacker and d-tackle in this draft class. That's kind of where the strength is. There's not a bunch of high-end Talent at D tackle, you know, the one technique but there's a bunch of guys in that kind of range that I think would be good value there. It also linebacker depending on which guys fall Dylan Moses is probably going to be round and round 3 months bill Cox might be probably not especially after he test but he might be he's really really good in coverage and then there's just so many guys that you think one of them is probably going to be there at 75 wage. And then in the fourth round if they want to get a developmental free safety, you know, I don't I don't think they'll have a chance to get Trayvon more rig or Richie Grant with their second round pick. So I'm getting in developmental guy. Maybe it came Stearns who I'm showing your yeah aware of, you know covering the Big Twelve. He's somebody who I really like the upside of God, you know, maybe ardarius Washington and if the team is comfortable with his height, I really like the player and you know, there's there's other guys as well Divine Diablo timer last be from Missouri, you know, and then after that, you know, there's guys that I like at the one technique defensive tackle Cyrus Tonga from BYU on Dale Mabry somebody like to Darrell Slayton on day three from Florida 6 with four three hundred thirty pounds. He's got absolute levers as arms and he uses them really. Well. He's just he's dead. A great athlete and there's one techniques, you know, that's really where you can find Value in the draft on day three those guys cuz the NFL doesn't value. Who do you thinks the best defensive player in this draft man? That's a tough question. The highest grade that I have is a tie between J. Okay, Jeremih woosah, Carmella the linebacker safety hybrid and Micah Parsons dead. Those are the two highest grades that I have. Given their positional value. Those are not the guys that I would draft first. I would draft I actually have the highest film grade on Caleb Farley, but with the back injury and there's just no way that you can feel comfortable taking him that high and so he would kind of be my guy but I would take the two corners JC horn and Patrick Stewart an over the linebackers because of positional value package. Then I really really like. Jaelan Phillips the Miami Edge rusher as well, but he also has injury concerns. And so that pushes him down the board a little bit as well. He's the name that might be there at 44th because of all the the health issues and I mean, he would be a perfect type of blue star special for Jerry Parsons is so interesting because he seems to be such a polarizing Prospect so much talent. Why do you is it just as you mentioned, you know, just the it's just not a position that's you know, evaluated that high relative to some of these other guys at corner defensive end, especially the defense wage. Football yeah with him. I mean, it's not just that either. It's the immaturity, you know, there was you know, getting suspended in high school all the way to the hazing incident or supposed alleged hazing incidents in college. You just you look at the dude and you say I don't know how that type of immaturity is going to gel or or mesh off in an NFL roster. I mean, he could end up getting you know allegedly. Again, Aaron Donald added in the locker room because those guys aren't going to aren't going to deal with that. Who socials the guy you'd like to attend the most I mean, I wouldn't love to go offensive tackle specifically, but just because I think that we have, you know, an offensive tackle and he will end up getting hurt at some point Tyron Smith home games this year, but when you go, you know and take a guy in the first round, especially if the 10th pick you expect the guide to be an instant contributor and do I think that he could play left guard to start his career sure. I think that he could do that and be just fine if that he is an elite left tackle Prospect and I don't want to just move him into guard because that's where the need is. I want to play him at the position that I'm drafting him. Right and plus just the value of of guard and Tackle. I mean, I understand protecting that Prescott but come on. I don't I don't want to waste even a year with that 10th picking. I know that you get the fifth year option with the first round picks, but I would much rather get a guy that from day one is going to at least give be given the chance to contribute at a high level. So who do you want to 10 then? Jaylen waddle. I mean that's that's who I that's that's my real answer. Like that's who I want. I want Jaylen waddle. I want to trade Michael Gallup for a defensive starter. Mike wage. Jaylen waddle just brings an element to this football team that they do not currently have mats that speed threat, but he's not just a speed guy and I think that that's something that a lot of people it's difficult for them to understand and we keep getting in year in and year out these Tyreek Hill Cops and they're all bad. They're all bad. It wasn't mecole Hardman. It wasn't Henry rugg's it wasn't Jalen off Philadelphia Eagles. It wasn't jamming rhaegar like these guys were not Tyreek Hill. Doing what is Tyreek Hill somebody's is so why is it? Why are the why is he different than those guys? Especially Henry rugg's cuz obviously the most compared to so he's an actual route-runner which is something that you know, Henry Jacobs had gotten better at it. But it's the ability to change direction. That is the biggest difference between him and those other guys, especially Henry rugg's is the ability to start. Just on an absolute dime and although I think he's still becoming more nuanced as a route-runner understanding Defenders leverage being able to to attack blind spots and things of that nature at the level. He is at already. He's unguardable. You just there's nobody that can actually met up with him man-to-man two of the fastest quarterback in college football player for Georgia in Eric Stokes wage and Tyson Campbell and they had no answer for him whatsoever couldn't even get near him. And so for me, that's a guy who, you know, even after your third one receiver. I mean, You have to give extra attention to that and if you're giving extra attention so you don't get beat 475 Darkness deep not just opens up a morning Cooper and see the Alam that much more. Do you have him as your highest grade in this draft? He's my highest grade receiver ever re wow. Yeah. I like him that much. I mean, I think he's that much of a difference maker at the next level from year one and life. If if they end up not liking what they get for Michael Gallup in a trade you can just rotate him in and out of the offensive line up and he's already a top-five punt returner and kick returner in the NFL. He averaged 24.4 yards per punt returned in the SEC. Yeah, he's a monster. It's it's interesting. I I mean hits is obviously kind of most mentioned and I I mean for the same for the same rationale of you know, people that are saying well they, you know, they have too many needs on defense and there's too many miles took offence. It's like look gallops contract is up after next year. He said the height right now of the value can get for him, you know, why not try to unload him and and figure that out and then I mean Cooper, I think you get out of Cupertino a couple of years for you know next to nothing. So it's you think about what CD and then potentially Jaylen waddle or kelp it's like now you get fucked, you know, five years with with while or pits for more with steel am on a you know, cost control. Like that's just so significant that I think people are overlooking when it comes to just how Transcendent some these weapons are in this draft Yeah, and people really are a little bit narrow-minded when it comes to the draft. They're looking at needs today. They're looking at needs this year when they don't really have received needs. Yes, and they don't understand that needs change. In the snap of a finger at the NFL level contracts are short guys get injured guys depression. They force their way out. They regress like crazy and you know with the wide receiver group page, that's where the best athletes are playing now. It used to be the best athletes were playing at running back. Yeah, but running back, you know, even in the past ten years, they're not getting paid like they used to the shelf life is really really short. So these great athletes all have gotten gotten away from the running back position and we're seeing them transition over to wide receiver and and there is a a plethora of talent at the wide range of position for Jeep and so paying them and listen Amari Cooper is a top At best five wide receiver just winnings healthy just pure route-running can't garnham. And I'm okay with what they paid him. But like you said they can get out of that contract and save a lot of money cuz yes as much as I wanted them to pay that Prescott, they should have they did the right thing. That is somewhat going to limit what they can do not from the top and perspective but from in-depth perspective. And so if you can cut costs where you can with, you know, not too much diminishing return. I think that you should be able to do that. You should do that. Do you think the Cowboys are better today than when the season ended? Yes, obviously, I mean yeah, I mean Andy Dalton's not going to start the first game for I mean with that being said like if they and they've done enough this offseason to improve their roster. Yeah healthy and healthy and I think that is the biggest thing they did is and you know, cowboys Twitter and the radio has done a really good job. And listen those guys Jerry Jones Stephen. They listen they hear us we have bullied them into actually paying attention to the one technique and to free safety and you know, it might have been, you know a little bit us and a lot of Dan Quinn, but I think we finally bully them into saying hey like we actually have to somewhat pay attention to who was in the middle of the defense and you know, last year was the proof you can't just have unless I love Antoine, I think Antoine was justified rotational player at the one technique. He is not a two gabbing straight up nose guard that's not his game and getting out of that defensive scheme. not that it wasn't an okay scheme cuz it could have been in a with a full offseason and with players that are I don't want to say more intelligent because I don't think that our players are dumb. They just didn't pick it up very quickly towards the end of the year. They started to look better off but allowing your guys to be responsible more for one Gap in the linebacker specifically the the one linebacker specifically number 54 off allowing him to just play for work and not have to worry about a two-way go is really really important in that something that in this one gapping Gap control scheme for the Dallas Cowboys game going to be better just by default this year and that's something that they need because they're paying him who else up front. Do you like I mean, did you like the addition of Brent Urban you guys absolutely that's the that's the biggest one that I'm a fan of his the Brent Urban signing because I think that he is a legitimate run defending one technique. Yeah, and somebody that watches the Bears cuz I grew up in Chicago. I mean he was such an odd Did part to them defensively cuz there's so many they have so many great players up front where it's like you don't even realize how good this guy is that was that was the one of the it's funny because it seems like they've under month seems like the Cowboys of underwhelming free agency Urban to me might be end up being their best signing. I am happy they did invest in the safety position, which I mean, you know years past were looking at age six round picks to play safety. So it's like okay they they put Keanu Neal and and the other kid from from the Falcons and like true free safety, you know, you know nails are really good, you know downhill lie back or Safeway they say linebacker, but he still going to be a he's going to still be a play. I don't think primarily safety for them. Yeah. I mean do you like those moves? Are you underwhelmed by what they've done in free agency? Where are you on that wage? No, I mean, I don't mind the moves that they made they were obviously cheap moves. They kind of needed to be cheap moves Cowboys didn't have a ton of money this offseason. I mean, obviously I would have loved for them to go out and you know try to get something. like Dalvin Tomlinson, you know, like get a splash guy to really try to make one big difference, but I'm kind of getting to the point where Just throw bodies try to get depth at defense because you know the top-end talent like how much good is one Elite linebacker going to do how much good is Right anything out of you know one Elite, you know shut down corner, like they they're not going to make a massive difference because defense is such an 11-man game one crack in the armor and you're done and so getting a guy like cuz he getting a guy like Neil they know the system like the back of their hands. It's the one that they live literally are just coming from thumb. And and the one thing that I really want is for Dan Quinn to run some of what they were doing the past couple of years where they kind of did, you know get not just out of the the cover three because they still ran mostly covered 3, but they did more to High stuff especially, you know, it gets the Cowboys last year pass-happy teams. They went to high they played Tampa to they played some match stuff. And I think that getting cozy and knowing is going to help that transition on the field giving guys in the right spots. Miller go check out his great work want to 5 through the fan down and 105 for the fan. Com has YouTube page as well and on Twitter adult and Bea Miller dog in the best man be well. Thanks. You too. Thanks for having me. I thank you. Miller 4:20 today. Show me thank you for Dalton to help restoring some optimism in me. I can't wait for the NFL draft. It's coming up. If you have not yet already make sure to subscribe to this podcast follow it it also wage if you wouldn't mind give us a five star rating. And if you don't do that in lieu of that tell a friend you've got friends that are Cowboys fans. Tell a friend say hey, I check up check out this cowboys podcast you like the Cowboys you want here, but what's going on throughout this offseason? Check it out. This this guy already time. Can the Cowboys beat box? You might like it. I would appreciate that very much each and every one of you would do that. I love you, but for now, peace And you know and orange.

Cowboys NFL Dalton Dak Prescott Rashawn Slater Mike McCarthy Jaylen waddle football Atlanta Dan Quinn Alden Smith Clarence Hill Fort Worth Star AJ bouye Malcolm Butler Henry rugg Kellen Moore Brent Urban Richard Sherman
April 30th: Sports Roundup HR 2

NoCo Now ? 1310 KFKA

41:37 min | 6 months ago

April 30th: Sports Roundup HR 2

"Southern colorado and never stops neither do we. This is no co now presented by shanin agency. Here's tanner swint funny. Friday northern colorado. It is no coat my voice back for a second. It'll be don't worry. Thanks for joining us here in northern carla's voice hanging. If you missed anything that we've done here. Please go check it out on thirteen ten. Kfi k. a. dot com. We've got exciting news coming In mid probably a month or so we get some really exciting news Some big changes that. Thanks for being with us here on oko now on thirteen ten. Kfi am tanner. swint Really really upset about the second hour as well. we've got kevin lilo the fort collins colorado and coming up. He will beer syrupy four by four. Vip guest or other syrupy four by four vip get are we going to have to start ranking them now series four by four vip guests like isn't guest number one gets them to. They're all our vip guests but brady whole host of the whole show will join. Its and try and defend what. The denver broncos did Last night i'm frustrated with them but before we get into it. Let's take a look around the sports world starting first with the colorado rockies You heard. Mike reiss talk about it. They got up to an early. Start last night against the arizona diamondbacks in arizona but they just could not hold on The rockies went up three to nothing in the first three innings actually and then Or excuse me three to one after the third but then two in the fourth and two in the seventh It was tough tough game again. Tough match-up again for the rockies. The hittings not dare three runs isn't going to win a ton of games. You're you're offense has. Your pitching staff hasn't been phenomenal. Sins itala goes four. And two-thirds innings with three earned runs giving up three strikeouts as well But he The the loss goes stevenson for the colorado rockies They're back in action tonight. You heard me talk about it again. there with mike reiss. They will be back seven forty first pitch seventeen pre pre-game. You can hear that game Right here on northern colorado. This voice thirteen ten kfi k. As we are colorado rockies affiliate Last night the the denver nuggets were inaction as well The nuggets gotta keep winning and they do so last night taking on the toronto raptors This this team has been They they continue to surprise me. I didn't know if they were gonna get out as quick as they did there. There was a time that i was. I was very nervous about this team. I was really nervous about The denver nuggets anymore they they defeat the toronto raptors one twenty one to one eleven i know this raptors team is a little bit down this year but we talk about. We'll and being on all these other guys still out For the negative win mike this. It's it's pretty impressive nicole. Yokich nineteen points. Eleven rebounds two assists. Is that a down night. Is that considered a dow night. Nicole nicole yokich michael porter jr. twenty three points seven boards heir gordon nine seven and four every every starter. Outside of erik. Gordon gets into the double digit put jamaica green coming off the bench. The bench played really well as need for the denver. Nuggets austin rivers gets eleven points to go along with two steals two assists and rebound the nuggets. Now move to forty two in twenty one this year and really. They're getting back. Still of the of the los angeles clippers and those two teams play on saturday at eight o'clock on espn. That's gotta be the game of the weekend for everybody. Be watching if the nuggets can somehow find a way to win that game. Look right now. They're half again back buying the clippers. So you win that game you jump in front that would set up that set up a matchup a four and five matchup against the la teams one of. Them's going to go home. And you're a really big fan of that. Because i think those two teams are still until proven otherwise. I think those teams are still the most dangerous teams in the western conference. I gave. utah's having a phenomenal year. I get phoenix and chris. Paul and devon booker have done some really good things. But i think it's got to be one of the la teams. That is the team to beat now. As i mentioned the other day if the lakers keep falling in the nuggets move up. They're just going to get him three six matchup with them. It's sort of in four five matchup. I don't think that's going to happen. I i do like to turn it on at some point But something to watch out for that standings And where everybody sits right now is is a very very interesting watch and we will continue to monitor that as well Let's continue on here with the colorado avalanche team that can you say they're getting a little bit of sliding a little bit Day take on the san jose sharks tonight. This is a great game for the for the to get back on. Track against san jose who is twenty and twenty four on on the year The as look to get back against seven o'clock the avs thirty one and twelve there Six points behind the vegas golden knights four that western west division standings The nfl draft went down last night and there was there. Were some surprises right. But maybe not as many as we thought the surprise for me. Justin fields and in my opinion is one of the outside of trevor lawrence. And just the fields might be better than trevor alerts but outside of trevor lawrence justin fields as the the best quarterback in the stress in denver was sitting there at nine and didn't get it didn't get let him walk went right by but i suppose I suppose they they know what they're doing better than i do But they get patrick's ser tan here. fr- cornerback alabama. A lot of people are really high on him about the first The first three picks it was. All quarterbacks was trevor lawrence. Zack wilson trae lands. Trevor lawrence of the jags. Zack wilson. The jets trae lance to the forty niners. There wasn't a whole lot of surprised. It wasn't a lot of surprise. Atlanta does not go quarterback kyle pits the bengals go receiver. Miami goes receiver as well offensive line for the lions there at seven. Cornerback eight for the panthers. And then obviously cornerback at nine four. The denver broncos mack jones the quarterback for alabama ends up falling all the way down to number fifteen and guess who was sitting there and number fifteen. That's right bill. Vela check ends up taking him. And i think that's that could be a little bit Scary times where people once that once. Mack jones and phil ballot. Check get teamed up. That's a look at the sports world. See okay we got a got a texter here with a with another meam here. We use their first round. Pick on a quarterback from alabama saying back. You could've picked mack jones that pig to create leverage with your other picks. See i. I don't even like like if you can't get aaron rodgers. I don't even like that. I prefer just to draft just fields and make denver. Have the most interesting the most interesting quarterback room in the league. I think that that would be the really interesting part I don't know. I don't know ten thirteen. The time A senator best jokes twenty dollar gift card to the tavern at saint michel square available For the for the winter for today kevin idol of the colorado and joins us next. Don't go anywhere. It's no co now presented by the j nine agencies on northern colorado's voice thirteen ten kfi k northern colorado's voice is thirteen ten kfi k. Tanner will be back after the break here. Mornings with kale weekdays. Six to nine and northern colorado's voice. Thirteen ten k f k today teen welcome back in. Pay 'em tina swint. Thanks for being with us on this funny friday. Send in your best jokes today. Chance to win the twenty dollar gift card to the tavern at saint michael's square joining me now are one of our here four by four. Vip guests it is kevin idle with the colorado and kevin What did you. What were you. Take away from the first round of the nfl draft last night. It's always interesting to observe especially the quarterback world of things. It's just baffling. Nfl teams evaluate quarterbacks. Be very honest year so we Arenas dies right and all that quarterback position. I think we're we're having a kevin's voice. I didn't know this is going to be possible. Kevin's kevin's voice sounded. Maybe a little bit worse than mine. I wasn't actually as voice. It was just just the phone connection. So we're gonna try this again. Trying to get kevin lionel awhile back on the hotline. There is the nfl draft it was. I don't know why. I was so intrigued last night but i was. I was definitely more intrigued than in years past Just because you know we miss it last year or or what it was. You know as an roger goodell's basement last year but Unless we got kevin backup online kevin Sorry about that So you were saying. Yeah it's it's weird to me watching the quarterbacks rise and slide um for kind of weird reasons they play their whole career and then somehow we view of them or what have l. teams view of them changes dramatically in a couple of months based on Sweatpants workouts basically which is always weird to me. Yeah so we'll see. We'll see how those quarterbacks do the order they were picked in the order. I would've necessarily You know ranked the quarterbacks. But i'm also not paid a ton of money to do that so we'll see how it goes but That's kind of one of the things. I always enjoy watching broncos specifically i know a lot of people are hoping for the fields pick and you know i think that could have been interesting one by i think patrick certaines a good one and a pretty safe one top corners generally. Don't miss. i mean obviously there are some examples but for the most part they tend to be pretty pretty well evaluated. I thought it was. I thought it was interesting. How it all went down starting You know with trae lance go number three to the to the forty niners but you add a host of receivers bunch of receivers that went in that first round. Obviously the one the one that we're looking for in wondering when he's going to his warren jackson out of the colorado state. What are your thoughts. Yeah he's guy obviously. We knew he wouldn't go yesterday pretty much. No he won't go today in rounds two or three but after that pretty wide open i mean some people have him off and maybe a fourth fourth type around pick A number of people don't have him being selected. All i do think he's gonna be drafted You know the team or excuse me. His family and everything that's indication. They're getting from nfl teams. I know their phone has been blowing up with with various teams talking them. Which of course is is normal in doesn't mean he's going to get drafted but i just don't see how a guy you know six six Great hands you know. Some of the games. he's ad against arkansas alabama. Things like that. I would be done if someone doesn't take a flyer on him. He's also good kid too so you don't have any you know off the field where he's either so i i would have to think someone's taking a flyer on him if you had if you force me into picking around. I would say. I'm going to say six right so you look at it you you knew i was going to force you into it so you just wanna to see what you're doing with kevin lionel here with fort collins colorado and kevin excuse my voice here starting to go out on cheering too much. Last night i guess at the nfl draft But any other any other rams that That have the possibility of being drafted in this. The funny thing you normally. There's in a typical year for cs you. I'd say there's usually one or two guys. They're in the draft. Mix and a few others that maybe could lay or will certainly be reagents but this year because of covid not this year not counting almost all of the issues top seniors are all of them really are coming back for another year to play another year college football so all the guys you know scott patch in the manny jones even ryan house. Or you know some of those guys that would be in the mix They're back for another year of college football. So warned jackson literally the only person. That's you know you've been anywhere near The conversation so he's the only one to track which is kind of a another unique side effect of this cova. Dear talking with Kevin lila fort collins. Colorado i it's. It's nice to see that the draft at least taking place in familiar fashion. It was it was nice to see roger goodell give. It has always but how long you talk. You can build on what you were talking about. Their kevin how long before we start to see more normalcy from all the way from the preps all the way to the pro game because this has changed recruiting. This has changed when kids can arise college the eligib- eligibility issues. You know now. They've got an extra year so Some of these kids graduating from high school may have to wait longer to play because these kids got. There's it's just a mess. How long before this resolves itself. Yeah i mean there's so many different Like you say different fingers. You can follow this. The the extra year of eligibility is going to have long term impacts. Because you know. I think the ones that are getting hit. The most are kids who are either juniors or seniors in high school right now. They're seen scholarships kinda be squeezed because They're being retained by kids. Who were you supposed to be graduating and leaving. But but now they're come back for another year and so. I don't think we're gonna know for several years really how that affects everyone but is having affect you know Schools are allowed to increase their scholarship limits. A bit but to do that you have to pay you know you have to finance it and most schools obviously through with covid impacts. They're not really eager to pay a bunch. More through scholarships so you know law. Schools aren't doing that so the long term side effects so to speak are definitely gonna be there But what will that mean. Well it means some talent. It's gonna spread out you know further which could be a good thing that could be you know good for college sports or or will it. Just get squeezed more. I don't know But but we are getting closer to moving back to normal. You mentioned recruiting Starting basically starting june coaches can recruit recruits can visit campuses. Things like that. So that's a really positive stepping on. That's as good for the high schoolers. As it is the colleges and even high school sports are starting to feel a little more normal or seeing some restrictions lifted as we move into this d spring season. They're all outdoor sports. So we're getting there. Yeah we we certainly aren't feels good to be headed in that direction Talking with kevin model of the Fort collins colorado and you talked a little bit about About some of the high school stuff to Can we we. Don't talk a whole lot of soccer on this program and that's something you probably wish we did But i'm gonna give you the opportunity to talk some high school soccer right now. Windsor windsor Played pretty well right now. i i've heard. Yeah you've got that right signed time. Windsor is playing in the forty eighth state championship game tomorrow at noon at the new soccer stadium in colorado springs. The first off. I'm really excited to that stadium. But a second and more importantly is windsor. They're going center. I boys soccer title in history. This is already the furthest their soccer program has ever made it. I just a really good team top to bottom. They're really strong. Defensively really good midfield and then I have to talk about their attack. They won two one against niwa in the quarterfinals. A late goal. By john. Burnett and john burnett is guide as having a postseason for the ages. They played three playoff games. He has six goals. He had two goals in the quarter-final semi-final i mean Three goals in the quarterfinal. So he's just He's not your four a player of the year. I'm not sure what's going on there so really cool really fun thing. You know you guys know. Windsor obviously can really get behind their sports so It's kind of exciting for for the soccer team to get the buzz that they have right now. So that is the best boy soccer team. They've they've ever had in. Some of these stories can be a little overlooked because of it. Just people are not used to to okay. Here's where the teams are playing right. Now here's where like volleyball regionals. It does not feel like that should be happening this weekend. Yeah back i mean. Obviously like he's volleyball and soccer to those sports that normally are in the fall. So it's very weird to have them happening now And it's you know it's taken last akra feis you know right now is normally club season for both those sports and so you have teams and players kind juggling both and Trying to work together and you know some are some. Aren't you know how how that can go. Sometimes but but obviously. It's working out well for windsor and yeah. That's coach phil is there is saying the other day goes all credit to the kids you know had been a year and a half. Since they've played a game you know until a couple of months ago but they stuck with it and here they are definitely paying dividends now. Kevin okay kevin. So you'd say in the six around for four warren jackson. There are you minnesota. Vikings fan as i read Guy but sure. Whatever you i why did i have that in my head that you were vikings gay. I couldn't possibly tell you my friend. I i apologize about that okay. So then. that's the way i wanted to go. I didn't really want to the vikings anyways. What did you think about The broncos are passing on chesterfield when he fell or whatever you wanna call it was available there. I thought they might go for him but Again i'm not fully covering that program or anything by kind of all along that they weren't gonna pick a quarterback this year partially because new gm You know you. You don't wanna put on your back right away you know. If you create the drama you know. Lock versus fields Or what what do you do with a lock if draft fields already create drama in that field doesn't the guy You're already under pressure as a new gym. Now you take you know teddy bridgewater in a low risk trade. You have drew lock. Give them both kinda one year to see if they can look like. They're the guy if not go find a quarterback next year. So i wasn't shocked. I would have been intrigued. Because i i think feels will be good. But i wasn't shocked by it. And i do think 'certain is a a safe good tech nuri. I love it all right. Kevin appreciate your time. What are you working on my man. Well obviously it'll be following the draft Following volleyball regionals about to head out. Fossil ridge association in town here in about an hour a weird friday morning regional for whatever reason actually reasons trump another another sign. That things are getting back to normal schedules. There we go and then Obviously the windsor state championship game tomorrow. We'll be down there in colorado springs to cover that i love it Kevin appreciate your time as always my friend. And thanks for jumping on Last minute here and and joining us And we'll talk with you on tuesday. Thanks for having me thanks. Kevin love the fort collins colorado Appreciate his. It'll be interesting to warn checks and i think it's going to be a steel somewhere. That kid that kid can play. But you know the fact that we didn't he didn't he opted out of this year. Does that hurt his draft stock. Does that mean they'd like people have forgotten about him. I don't know but appreciate kevin. Lytle attorney has talked about that as always We got a house up for sale desert pending her clay airy real estate and they've got a five bed three bath. Great place over in eaten it is posted on cleary real estate dot com also on our facebook page. We shared it over there. A check it out Desert petting her northern colorado You know it doesn't hurt to look never heard look desert pinger clary real estate ten thirty one. Let's get to the bottom of the hour news and weather center. What's happening in your own. Backyard listened to no co- now with tanner's swint a northern colorado voice thirteen ten. Kfi k breathe for welcome back in more cardio should incorporate some more cardio. No not me breathe. I can't eat. I thought the area no thanks for coming to the program out of shape hall. That's the same thing. It's not that birdie holes here I'm sure he's gonna some dumb things about the nfl draft. You like this pick absolutely love it. Patrick 'certain i'm gonna let you. The the mic is yours. What do you think why. Why will you needed a corner because because two of the corners on your roster will not be there next year. i'm vic fangio. Plays more nickel and dime than probably anybody in the nfl. So there's odds are going to have three to four cornerbacks on the field most of the time and let's face it eleven. Ten other teams passed on justin fields. What do they know that we don't chicago got him. Chicago's a great evaluator of quarterbacks. Right they can name name their best quarterback in their history. And i'm jay cutler. Yeah that's sad is that i love the pick. Because this bolsters our defense i would've. I would've probably rather seen mike at parsons. I like just field. He was he was actually at the top of my board. It was justified. Mike parsons patrick. 'certain kind of tie there honestly. I said as long as one of those guys goes to the broncos. I'll be happy. I just feels like i feel like this is the question that needs to be answered. Is denver in win now mode or are they in build mode. Because i feel like they're kind of torn george payton. Has this longer term plan but vic fangio was not going to be around long term and and so. Where are you going with this right around long term. Kyle fuller out there you got. You got ron ronald darby. Bryce callahan michael. Ojemudia can go to ojemudia. Could probably play some safety to. They're going to move him around where you just you. Just gonna keep josie jewel and and avenue. Johnson is your alexander johnson. See photo sorry but yeah so those are the. You'll be the to be your linebacker. johnson will be. You're starting loans. You have rather had michael person. I would have rather michael parsons skill in fact. That was my pick last night. The broncos were not going to get a quarterback predicted that right but they were gonna take my catharsis i still i still like your franchise. Quarterback is not on this roster right. now he's on. I mean i must. There must be something there. But what i mean. Wh what is that. What is it. That's holding six games of lie back that he's only played sixteen games. Their offensive line was much better last year. They i mean he's got talented quarterback spot on time but they must feel that drew lock or teddy bridgewater. They're comfortable going in to the season with that. We're gonna have zak. Stevens of denver broncos on at twelve. Oh five today he just re tweeted. What basically the broncos brass just said about the quarterback. They asked him about the quarterback room now and they said we're good. We're good we're good with this room. That is so weird to me. I mean that that is not a super bowl calver. You know Quarterback room right. Now do you really think like just in. Herbert was really good last year but right a chargers weren't really good. So do you really think. Justin fields is starting game. One and suddenly the broncos are a contender their playoff team in talking about next year just the just. The fields joins team. I think that their playoff team. You think with the improvements. They've done to this defense. And i think that the way that that progression from k. j. Hamler and jerry jeudy an care polls for that matter continuing to get better on. That often must believe that everything around them is so good now. That lock has no choice but to be a little bit better which he just needs to be. You just need to not lose games for them. He's not gonna win right right. But i mean that's teddy bridgewater and nutshell right so do you. Th- who's who's the starting quarterback drew lock is going to win the competition. Think so. i think the ceiling for drew lock is much higher. So you're going to you want this to work out. Like the broncos are really wanting this to work out. So they're going to give him every shop because bridgewater's you've got one year with him and how much longer he can play in the nfl. He's had so many injuries so they want desperately drew lock to be the guy and we're gonna find out With a whole host of the whole show so some other crazy stuff went on yesterday Oh you're not tempo. Great story Aaron rodgers has been telling people that he wants to green bay inside of the organization right before the draft stupid move by him right before the draft have enough time to put anything together march with comes out now and says this is as close to a done deal. There can be that aaron rodgers coming into the denver broncos. What was there. Just absolutely no truth to that or was it a smokescreen or what was what was originally. What are you given for him. Because san francisco offered that pick number three second round stuff bunch of other things and the packers had no. So what are. What's denver got that. They were next year's first round pick while hopefully denver's not a top ten so the one thing. Here's here's a little conspiracy theory. Hopefully i'm right Number nine what's the green bay packers biggest need as a young cornerback. Young defensive star. Could this be some sort of a sign and trait type of thing. Because i they drafted eric stokes with the twenty ninth pick and they build that need at corner so they don't need a corner and patrick kane is if they would've metrics certaines better than eric go that route. Why not draft a different player than another player of of a musician of that deep back. Maybe they just need that much help on the defensive side of the ball. I just want aaron rodgers to come to denver. I don't care what it takes. I'm switching from which i got weird. That whole story to shine a lawson got real weird. It did get weird. And it's not gonna ever. If if he settles ten he does go away. I don't know we don't talk about and he still plays and they don't know how you don't talk about that though. Dads like. He's a creepy. Do away from it. I our any team. I'd stay away. I switched my tone there. But i mean he. He's a creepy dude. If it'll be three first round picks two second picks and a third for shawn and maybe a player. What is the price for aaron rodgers. Who's thirty seven years old. Excuse me. I don't think it's that high. I don't think it's just a tick. I think it's the first round pick. And maybe i would do that. I don't like i don't like packaging a ton of especially when you have a general manager that says we're going to build through the draft year in year out. Would you send courtland sutton first round. Pick for rogers. I would do that. Yeah me too. But i don't think that's i don't think the packers it's gonna it's gonna take some more pigs it's gonna take a second round or somebody to take more. I think it's going to be a lot more pricey but this the silly thing was if aaron rodgers was that serious about this why did he let us leak yesterday. If no time if he would have let it leak a week ago you have time to start putting things together team. Start thinking about it. Teams are not gonna stop. I mean san francisco is the only one we know of but they they package. That'd be maybe maybe the packers didn't realize how much aaron rodgers really wants to that because they're they're adamant that they're not going anywhere and they said we're gonna pass this. We're gonna make it right if you go. If rodgers really wanted it should this a week ago. 'cause then the packers go all right. He's not just and then you're thinking all right. Here's an opportunity for the packers to treat rogers right and draft him a weapon in the first round of the draft a corner. That's i remember talking The the the packers have been flirting with every other girl at the party. They got one girls now with jordan love right and and they're so prized when i think when when aaron rodgers is upset with that so it's just weird how that's going on. What percentage chance would you give it. The broncos for market laura. I don't have insiders like he does But i mean that was a big missed and he will they still could potentially still make. I guess i guess as he backed off. I haven't seen as he backed off on. And i haven't seen anything to report otherwise but i'm gonna i'll indicate otherwise. I'm gonna have zac on from. Dnv broncos at twelve. oh five search. Surely he'll start to unpack some of that but the percentage chance. I don't think it's realistic. You know i just don't i mean. They had a chance to draft a young quarterback. Aaron rodgers thirty seven. Why would you when you had a chance to get a quarterback. Why now would you load up and sell the farm for a guy that will be thirty eight when he starts his season next year now but he's coming off being the mvp vp right. But how long does it last. It's the same. Tom brady question. It doesn't look like he's got any signs of slowing down. I don't know some point. Obviously father time. Oh williams is with so with you gamble if you just say well. He's not slowing down when he goes down he's going to be too late and if he slows down next year. You trade it all your life. I don't know if it's going to be next year. I just find that hard to and apparently you know the report was was that the packers told rogers trade them in the offseason then backed off of that and then it's been a bleep show ever taken. San francisco's offer offer right absolutely. But the what are the niners. Due and taken trait i mean trey lance at number three. That's high at thought but Interesting first round. So what do you see denver doing here round number two of the nfl draft. Do they go linebacker or do they do they Where do they go here. The guy that. I like that. I don't know if he'll be available is jeremiah. Wo- sue komura. He is the best player or names. Like on the available out of notre dame the linebacker. He's one i suggested. Denver if they were gonna trade out a top nine move back acquire another round pick and go get him in the second round. He's the best available. i do. See the the broncos going there's also and you're gonna love this one z's oji lari out of georgia that those are both guys you said it. You don't want to go to camp with alexander. Johnson and josie jewel. Well you gotta take care of it. You got to really good linebackers. But we'll probably go. The top. five can the broncos move up in the second round. Actually think the second rounds pretty interesting now. I think linebacker up the defense. Well that's i don't know that's a tough stubborn again happens. Yeah let's just ninety seven credible quarterbacks and the d. I don't understand it. The weak spot last year again was the offense and where specifically while it was the quarterback play. So what are they. I mean they brought teddy bridgewater in for it's sixth round. Pick even addressed your biggest concern. I i like. Wha george payton has done i love the cow fuller citing. I think it's a great move. I've been people that are texting me today. So this is a terrible move clearly have listened to my show in the last two years two months. Because i've been saying patrick kane. He was actually my number one. Two months ago i would have gone him over everybody for denver. Then i started like just feels a little more than i started to think. Maybe it's gonna be a possibility that falls tonight people. Call me crazy about that. I think i was one of them. I think i called is all the way to eleven. Chicago's and gets him. Somebody knows something that we don't. I don't know it's it's so weird to me. How how people over analyze you know we watch these guys play the entire college careers and then over the the time of however many months they just fall and for what reason and these different things that we kind of sometimes over analyze it a little bit Last going to get your thought on mack. Jones going to new england. Yeah new england. I thought they were gonna get aggressive and try to steal justin fields from from denver but they knew something as well stood stood pat. And they're still bill. Checks will saint guy though so we said that this morning news there guy what happened last time. The patriots drafted a little. Bit of a pudgy. Dude little pudgy. White dude worked out pretty well for him. See if it works out again So obviously you got a lot of reaction stuff zak stevens coming up. What else he got on the whole show. This harrison wind up dvr nuggets. We'll talk a lot of nuggets today. Gwynn for them but actually this is going to be interesting segment today. I'm talking to my chiropractor on the air today. Yes yes. I'm talking to him on the he's coming by he's actually crack your back while you're see really know what the interview. They're not really like that. Not about you like it. I'll be look forward by the way we found. Maybe a new hang out spot. The shiny shop yesterday tells a great play so good so good. I'll tell you more about it. We need to get a break though. Brady hall thank you so much for stopping buying spreading some wisdom. You're so well if that's what you call it back. It's no all right here. In northern card boys. Thirteen ten gave k. It's a party. Northern colorado's voice thirteen kfi k. A block party wednesdays from four ten pm. Et me welcome back into the program we're about we're about through here. Oh they see the love that so. I'm a teenager all over again. I'm going to stop talking. Let's get to the week in review map makers to meteorologist especially with this year and how active the spring has been with that drier than average for most of us but more active flow I think would be entirely possible to catch a burst of cold enough air in mid to produce some snowfall. Even then i think once we pass probably probably literally just the fifteenth in may and beyond that does very quiet but the first couple weeks of may not necessarily a silent patterns that we made up snowfall there crispy and every director of reported for nine news in the country right about the middle Fully vaccinated were close to about thirty percents with a lot. More people coming down the road because a lot of people are still getting their second vaccine. The next you know couple of weeks my wife for example. We'll get her second vaccine next week and so we have a lot of people that are. We'll be getting their second vaccines shortly And so that number. That's around a third will go up and that's good news You know obviously we're still a long way away from where we need to kevin for. Call it a press network as you as you look at the practice. I i think eating sterling lamar university are pretty good bets to advance into the state tournament. They're in the top five seeds Montezuma cortez probably because of location delta manitou springs after travel there. They're the two seat and their unbeaten. I i would assume they move on. I think it really gets interesting in in region. Six seven and eight lutheran will get by alamo in the ninety eight game and look for the lions advance and then prospect rage out of the metro. They were the runner up. Team to lutheran there. I think they have a chance to get by. Sst mont view their elite champ. But their league is not up to the same standard in my book as metro. Kim fisher national spokesperson for water. Ford dot org work with children pre k through sixth grade. But our waterford upstart program. Which is what we're doing this summer. Learning path with it focuses on children in the year before they go to kindergarten and so during cova. We have seen that you know. Parents have struggled to find an early education options but our kids and so this summer learning path is to find. Those families That have children. That are not prepared to walk into kindergarten. This fall and get them prepared and so the summer learning path is twenty minutes of our adaptive software program five days a week but then we also give parents a coach so that they know how to interact with their child off line which is crucially important. That was the week in review. Thanks for being a part of it. All of that content on thirteen ten k dot com So make sure you check that out We will be Having a new. Let's have a beer podcast next week. We'll be looking forward to that as well Really excited to get that one recorded in the books. Hey the power trip coming up next from eleven to twelve twelve to two will be the whole show with brady whole And at six o'clock tonight it is a fort collins. Lampkin going down to boulder for the first round of the season seat playoffs for football. So all of that coming your way. I will be with you tomorrow. Scheduled to go for one o'clock tomorrow afternoon out in eaten with regional volleyball action coming your way as well But thanks to all the guests. Six everybody joining us throughout the course of this week. Thanks to ryan kelley as well. He does lot. Night is a little bit behind the scenes that we really do appreciate brian. Kelly tanner twelve. We'll talk with the all on monday. Have a great weekend this weekend. Remember personal you can still make decisions. It's been nocona presented by the g nine agencies in northern carlos voice thirteen ten k. f k.

colorado trevor lawrence mack jones colorado rockies nfl kevin broncos nuggets Aaron rodgers Zack wilson soccer denver trae lance kevin lionel mike reiss denver broncos warren jackson Justin fields alabama
GSMC Football Podcast Episode 864: Bright Futures

GSMC Football Podcast

1:37:27 hr | 2 months ago

GSMC Football Podcast Episode 864: Bright Futures

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything. Football under golden state media concept's football podcasts. The latest news on and off the field be at college football ten. Sec big twelve pac. Twelve acc to the nfl with got you covered. Listen to the golden state media concepts. Football podcasts ooh Thank you for tuning into the gs mc football podcast brought to you by the geez mc podcast network. I'm your host your guy. Dj young's back good. Gin o- on 'em so man For those that saw the game on thursday. Lucky you yes. I unfortunately had to come back watch. The highlights watch the snippets that could online because for whatever reason by cable decided to act up the night of the game. Yup i was having issues. Watch game we'll accuracy cable service provider wherever you won't call it Technical issues on my end where matt and allow the little black screen. Therefore i did not get to watch it in alive time. But that's all good. That's okay because i got to see enough like i said it's social media. These days minority do is go around near watch a whole bunch of people snaps that were around their instagram stories. That were in the area or somebody that tax stuff in it Hashtags on twitter. Ladan erode you're talking about the digital so that's just w but man it was it a game just to get to know a little bit about that debt chart But we'll get around to man like the show today Of course kicking things off with new news but also for the rest of this man. I got some feedback from the last episode in the discussions of young guys a said. Dj you really flew through that man. I really you know feel like so. Many guys are out there like they were doing that. I didn't mention and stuff like that. Are that are not these superstars here. That are on their way up. They will be superstars so in the midst of taking that in it just so happened that the teams got ranked. Yes yes y'all ear Got ranked in an article based off of their younger players. Who has the best younger players. And i say this perfect because not only does it tell us about the ones we already know was going to help bring up the ones that are on their way and that you're just having a chance to notice it aright so of course we're going to do that couldn't help myself but as always we gotta start off with the new news man We got another football angel to send off man bobby boating The longtime florida state football coach who ranked second that. I not third but second so tap to all time in division one wins has passed away this week. It was announced sunday morning. He was ninety one years old so very young men but a full life lived on sure He admired by everyone. Who played for him or coached against him of bobby was diagnosed with terminal medical condition in july. Also really just last month. He did not disclose a what the condition was at the time. Although terry later told reporters that it was a pancreatic cancer k Bought in also dealt with What he called a tough called a tough bout of kobe. Nineteen and twenty twenty Which came a few days after returning to his tallahassee. Home from a hospital stay Stay from infections leg The university president from You said florida state university lost a legend in the passing bobby bowden On behalf of everyone at fsu gene in. I extend our divas condolences to end in the bowden family. coach boden built a football Dynasty raised the national profile for. Fsu in he did it with class. Incidence of humor a public funeral service will be held For him on saturday So you this upcoming saturday. On florida. State's campus public viewings will take place at. Fsu's doak campbell stadiums on friday in a campus in on the campus of samford university. His alma mater on sunday So paying respects to all schools given the condolences to his family for schuermann. All the peace in love Goes to them for those. Who is like i said. He's the second most winning coach in division one football was born in nineteen twenty nine passing away here in twenty twenty one so very very long Full life for sure In that time he lived. He made his mark You know he. He later said that. Marshall wanted him to be the knicks coach coach at marshall where he was Involved voter i but in seven in nineteen seventy. Six voting went to florida state. Mostly because it was a it was warned tallahassee closer to his mother is first years. Hey coach for them wasn't his best. They went five and six but was it was his only losing record in his thirty four seasons there in eighty two seminoles got their first bowl invitation under him Which would lead to twenty eight consecutive bowl appearances in national championships in nineteen ninety three and nineteen ninety nine for fourteen straight seasons ending in two thousand the seminoles one at least ten games finished ranked in the top five of the people. So what is still you tells you that this man here is the main reason if not one of the reasons that if issue football has been on the map These past decades his status as a florida state legend as a legend in college. Football as a whole was established in this in this band He he State coach joe. Paterno were neck and neck at numbers one and two on the winningest coach list. In two thousand nine voting announced his retirement. The last years of his coaching career weren't stellar But he still got it. Done so recipes coach bobby green bay packers receiver green bay packers receiver devon devon fumed. Jay's apologized anti asian remarks. He apologized on sunday morning after he using anti asian slur in a gesture during a news. Conference saturday. I want to apologize for the disparaging remark. I use tonight. He tweeted it was not okay. I have grown to develop deep personal and business relationships in asia community. I'm in no harm in those. That know me know Love and respect for all cultures. People i will learn from this and will continue to grow as a person on forever. Sorry put hashtag t. In hashtag plugging needs put fte n. equals forgive period the period negatively period of follow by prayer hands of heart and interested. Just lucky no Let you said after the packers. Practice saturday night. Who just walked into the media. Tournament said he was happy to see reporters in person after previously. talking over zoom. We can talk to people now. He said i like some miles of vaccinated reporters as steel required to wear a mask In keep everything. Safe a packers. Gm brian address futures chairs remarked later on sunday saying slurry very unacceptable certainly doesn't live up to the standards. Advise green bay packers But yet that's just how you know it. It being addressed in he was able to learn from it okay. He's able to correct himself quickly in make sure that that was the case But you know just kind of what he does. Use the second round. Pick by the carolina panthers in twenty fifteen one hundred sixty four career receptions two thousand two hundred sixty yards and twenty one touchdowns. His best season came at twenty seventeen with sixty three catches for one. Eight hundred forty yards in eight touchdowns just to let you know all right now. Let's talk about big money. I'm a little excited for this one. Just 'cause i'm here for his brother but indianapolis colts linebacker. Darius leonard have agreed to an extension are. They've put some money down all right. According to adam schefter we. Espn it is a five year. Ninety eight point five million dollar extension that will make leonard the highest paid inside linebacker in. Nfl history linear passes of forty niners linebacker afraid warner who signed his new deal At the at the outset of the training camp wisher made the nfl highest paid inside linebacker at the time. He didn't get the live that long enough. I'm sure leonard said i'm a competitor If you're not first you're last He said to have my name at the top. That's something i don't take for granted. I have to continue to go into peru view to prove that you've seen the linebacker rankings. At think i was six. I was number eight in madden Lynyrd joins tackle brayden submit as the two players. The colts have locked up. Long-term extensions during the training camp linter said he hopes to make his training camp debut this week After off season ankle injury surgery so he should be better all right. His brother is good twenty. Six years old. I was the first team. All pro The has over one hundred and thirty two tackles and just last season He was defensive. Rookie of the year in two thousand eighteen when he led the nfl one hundred sixty three tackles and recorded seven sacks so look this is well earned a second round selection in two thousand eighteen. Leonard has four hundred and sixty tackles three seasons in also has fifteen career sacks seven interceptions. Ss somebody you'd be wanna extend that somebody you put some money down for as you can keep them so good job with another surgery update Jaguars receiver dj. clark In surgery to repair a broken finger on his right hand Head coach urban meyer in clarke should return in time for the season. Opener should be better in ready to go He had a plate inserted into his finger. Meyer safe from From sunday scrimmage clark Had missed two practices. Before the scrimmage clark is the final year of his rookie contract After catching seventy three passes for one thousand eight yards and eight touchdowns in making the pro bowl back in twenty nineteen. Clark caught fifty three passes for seven hundred sixty yards in five touchdowns last season. He admitted This past spring that he Let his frustrations with the team struggles. Impact is play on the field Myers myers says that. Pass spring that the six four two hundred ten pound clark needed to get stronger. Have more and be more physical Clark said he welcomed the challenge in meyer said. He responded in should in showed up to camp bigger and stronger so he coming off of this surgery should heal fast. You'll be ready to go all right. Now let's talk some more money. Take you damn buffalo bills quarterback. Josh allen woke up early friday morning from a call from his agent telling him a contract extension. That would make him one of the highest paid players in. Nfl history allen's representative as well as bills a gm brandon. Bean in. His office had been working on their final terms of the deal since eighteen. Pm had finally come a close enough to an official loop allen to officially loop alien on the progress even with practice at ten am friday. Alan shared the news with his girlfriend. His girlfriend brother impairs going back to bed. could wait As you imagine it was pretty hard to sleep after that. He said Alan in bills agreed to a six year contract extension. The team announced friday the deal tops out at two hundred fifty eight million dollars with one hundred fifty million dollars of guaranteed money according to espn stats information research. Don't one hundred and fifty million dollars. a in guaranteed money is the most in a single contract in nfl history surpassing kansas city chiefs in a kansas city chiefs quarterback patrick mahomes who's deal includes one hundred and forty one point. Five million guaranteed Allen's forty three million in average annual value is second mahomes forty five million allen the number seven pick in the twenty eighteen picking twenty eighteen. The draft had his fifth year option opened up in may as a formality. Both sides had previously expressed their desire for long term deal. The length of allen's deal While not quite as long as mahomes ten year extension was still meticulously chosen with the bills. Long-term success in the in mind you know and how that was going to play out But yet they kept somebody that they knew. Going to be very special. Allen earned the extension after. Mvp runner up season. He set franchise records from passing yards. Four thousand five hundred forty four and passing touchdowns thirty seven in led the bills to the afc championship game and their first division title since nineteen ninety. Five nineteen ninety. Five guys been a long time so they've had a division that long stander division title He made a noteworthy improvements from nineteen twenty twenty increasing. His completion percentage from fifty eight point. Eight to sixty nine point two and his passer rating from eighty five point three to one zero seven point two and also named to his first pro bowl. He's racking up like this is what you wanna see Guys that you draft. Do mike moving up dispiritedly at this position. statistically significant as the twenty twenty season was dad's now what alan believes. His new extension was built around. He said i know They didn't pay me for what i've done. He said they did it. Because would they expect me to continue. What i've done and expect me to go when the team some championships. We've got a lot of work to do I know that. And i'm just excited to put this behind me and start focusing football now. A congressional young man. let me get clark. Clap that man there deserters for sure i like watching josh man really excited to see what is in store for him in the bills. Okay james washington as next on my list to talk about Steelers a pittsburgh steelers wide receiver. James washington has posted team about Requesting a trade Yeah trade to another team The source said that washington who was entering the final year of his rookie deal is unhappy with his limited playing time Washed who twenty five saw his production dwindle last season. He played just four hundred. Eighty six snaps. Which is forty four percent in twenty twenty after seeing action on six hundred thirty four snaps six four percent in twenty nineteen his own fill. Production took a corresponding hit with him recording. Just three hundred ninety two yards and five touchdowns last season as compared to seven hundred thirty five yards in three scores twenty nineteen so i guess that kinda went up but not the way. He wanted to he was targeted. Twice in thursday's a hall of fame game that they play last week versatile cowboys last season. Bit rothberg even campaign to get washington on the few on field. More often as his nap counts decreased in the second. Half of the season So he actually used quarterback tried to look out for him as will the oklahoma state along with selected in the second round of the twenty eighteen draft and is part of a loaded receiver room that has juju smith schuster chase. Klay pool indiana johnson. He he has primarily been underrated deep threat in the steelers offense and figured You know to have a bigger role in coordinating matt Canada's offense with canada's constant rotation of receivers you know we just so what is looking like for him But we'll we'll see somebody else that has been in a situation when it comes to Trade is miami. dolphins cornerback. Xavien howard the miami. Dolphins have not. They said they have known inches of tradings. Avian howard despite the all pros desire to play elsewhere says we don't have to trade ex coach bryan floors had said this past friday Right the he's at write that down. He's a very good player. He's a great part of the team of the to tom. Pro bowlers unhappy with his contract. Talks with howard in his agent are ongoing as long as lines of communication are open as long as everyone is willing to compromise then we can Then we can get something done is what floor. I said for those that. Remember how it requested trade via instagram on july twenty seventh. The data offers reported that reported for training camp. He signed a five-year Five year extension in may twenty one thousand nine hundred and signing through twenty twenty four But he still believes that you know some things to go up Floors declined to say whether the dolphins have a field Trae calls they've been taking trade calls guarding him Who led nfl with ten interceptions. Last year he has been sidelined in recent practices because of an ankle injury. So we haven't seen him into many videos you but our became the nfl is highest. Paid cornerback when he signed his seventy five point. One million dollars extension But has since fall into six pointed out in his instagram posts that he is no longer the highest. Paid cornerback On his team having been overtaken by byron jones who signed a five year eighty two point. Five million dollar deal as So could just be over into all dad. But i ain't gonna be the one to say that out loud okay Last but not least guy talk about the but you always gotta talk about the cowboys either. decide despite a twenty percent revenue. Drop in twenty twenty due to the corona virus pandemic the average value of the thirty two. Nfl franchises is up. Fourteen percent All the way to three three point four two billion according to forbes it is the biggest gain ineffective years according to the magazine For the fifteenth year in a row The dallas cowboys are valued as the most expensive franchise reaching six point. Five billion in eight hundred million increase over their value in twenty twenty. The new england patriots are number two at five billion. The new york giants Four point eight. Five billion los angeles rams four point eight billion in washington football team for point two billion a round out the top five. The nfc east has all four of his team's inside the top ten with the philadelphia. Eagles checking in at number nine three point. Eight billion very interesting to see That teams with the craziest fans. Make the most money. Obviously that means add more stuff you know. More people dedicated to the calls basically So should be that. Big of a shocker. But you are now Updated like i say man. We're getting into a rank man. i will be discussing. The article discussing feelings. Educating you guys on these young guys out here but ranking the thirty two teams by their guys that are under twenty five talent which teams have the most analysts blue chip players will so blue chip player. Stay tuned we'll get right into it in explain everything all right. We'll be right back. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team. Check out the gsm. See fantasy football podcast. Get today's best advice on buddhist. Start who to sit even who. You should draft from sleeper picks. Red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That's gsm see podcast. Dot com backslash fantasy dash football dash. Podcasts we'll cover traditional leaks dynasty few. Pr even dp leads when you need fantasy help. There's just one showed up. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter. Visit s mc podcast dot com for more info May and welcome back. A man is going to be a good episode. Why because we get to talk about every team and you know talking about every team now. Yes this week. We are In good place because we have a full lineup of games. Just when the cowboys dealers game was awesome but we are now here in the times in the bleak of it all man We now get to really invest into watching football pre-season right now so we're just dealing with the you know the basics of the basic but It's enough to feed that beast just to see you know who's going to stand down and stuff like that all right now. I said We're talking about which teams have the most blue. The least in most blue chip players relied. What's a blue chip player dj. players are cornerstone acids from whom Teams will likely derive their biggest future value. So that's what we're talking about these guys as under the twenty five. Of course you take into account the systems area and you can take into account the positions that they play on you know if they how much they stand out but man this here is the ranking you know and You may learn. I'm here today. So here we go Number thirty two has not changed in many cases We are talking about the houston texans in twenty twenty. They were ranked twenty on this year. So they have fallen tremendously. Okay a good bit and Blue chip players they have but notable graduated players have come gone beyond Being the fresh new guys are shawn watson still there tightest howard At offensive tackle in guard maxx shopping. looking at the past four draught drafts. Demonstrate wide takes are in last place on the rankings of talent under twenty five. Because they don't be having a They gave him all the way. Man ain't getting nobody in there from the twenty nine thousand nine draft first round pick a tight assed howard is now when you five Takes ins Heads tattoo second picks second round picks max scharping in alani johnson. They are both now twenty five. The third round. Pick tidying cow wearing Is still twenty four but didn't see the field in the first two seasons in now has a grand total of three career receptions so that explains why they are here man nothing to work with their number. Thirty one belongs to the los angeles rams last season. They were number twenty seven. They only i stand there. Only blue chip player is strong safety jordan fuller Notable graduated ones would be guard. Austin core bet are jordan. Ruler started twelve games as safety as a six round of rookie last year. And he still just twenty three years old with mediocre cheney you know mediocre stats beginning fuller. Objectively the weak link on the rams secondary but he should grow in play a bigger role. This season taylor wrap a twenty three year old. Twenty nineteen second round pick May be starting beside him So you know these kids that are just you know getting their fee women so you gotta give them a chance. They're going to get better. As time progresses okay honesty our Cam acres may be out for the year with his torn achilles tendon. But he's still just twenty two and has two more years under his contract. The player replacing him in the lineup is bill henderson at the twenty four But don't sleep on cam come back next year. Don't be surprised if they have a good draft or good off season that these guys move up on this list number thirty. The new england patriots They need experience in now. That's why but last year. They were indebted last. They were at thirty two But you know the draft came about nagai some blue chips under your belt. Be in quarterback jones alabama They also have lineman michael and window. A window notable graduated players that have gone twenty five threshold. Our offense attack is ahah wind. Defensive tackle firing coward. Strong safety cow. Duggar in cornerback. Jesse jackson getting it design. Mack jones is the future of the patriots. And he's just twenty two years old he clearly He's clearly their important young asset after jones. The best young acid here in He's one of the last year's big surprises twenty-three-year-old Offensive lineman michael new on win. I win The six round pick rookie played all across the line. rank to right ranked at right tackle His most common position. He comes out six inch naps per blown a bone black. He replaces joe dooney left guard for them But he has all the much needed experience. To upgrade running back. Damon harris was twenty four years. Old is our number one under the radar prospect this year. Really gotta see what he's gonna do Last year he ranked seventeenth in a rushing delays and nineteenth in rushing success rate so Keep an eye on him. Jacoby myers twenty four years. Old was the only qualified patriot wide receiver to finish with an average above average defense last season. Any could be their number one receiver a again. This upcoming season Despite them picking up nelson aguilar kendrick. Born jake bailey Just just wait and see but yeah the patriots. They're trying you know there's a lotta old fashioned stuff going on there. So i think that's what how they end up with so many old fashioned guys but again guinea young guys in there getting extra talent number twenty nine. Kansas city chiefs. They are definitely flew down The charts on this one they latte last year ranked number eleven Blue player future for them is probably just caught at which allaire running back. That's pretty much. It guys of course at graduate from news are obviously patrick. Mahomes swan thornhill in defensive tackle. Derek nadi these guys are will experience. Invested in becoming the regulars Win the best player in the game turns twenty five year going to drop in ranking. I guess you know we had him. They were you know easy to for them to be eleven but he passed it up. So now we're here. He does leave behind a few talented young players. But nobody who has yet to start sixteen games in the season The closest is leir Who started thirteen for the chiefs as a rookie. In twenty twenty. You might be surprised to learn that it was hilar- had a below average delay as both a runner and receiver in his rookie season. Pretty tough to do that. You know on kennedy's often so that's why it's notable meco harman. There's twenty three years old. So let's nike disrespectful miko harmon twenty. Three you know super fast Did better in efficiency stats although his yards per catch a caption dropped from twenty point. Seven as a rookie to thirteen point. Seven in his second year so he's got to bring that back man so we could you know how these people putting your spit back on. His name are absolutely needs to be there. A second rounder center. Creed humphries tony to He's making things happen Twenty twenty third round pick who acted out his rookie. Season is lucas named. So we'll see what he can do at right. Tackle coming up this upcoming season. Hopefully can you know. Really make a standout willie. Gays expected to stem into a larger linebacker. Row at the age of twenty three He's been holding down a pass year and is old past two years But he'll need to clean up his tackling. He's twenty two percent missed. Tackle rate of last season was ninety. Second out of one hundred twelve qualifying linebacker so definitely need to stop missing tackles his past coverage with strong in limited you know limited sample also in pass coverage unlimited samples was twenty four year old. Cornerback legit Snead somebody else keep an eye on so they got guys they gotta make a bigger splash. That's all it is number. Twenty eight Is the indianapolis colts. They were number fifteen. Back in twenty twenty So somebody else wound down a little bit Some of the Guys that we are looking at for the future for them are Obviously running back. Jonathan taylor and edge rusher kuwaiti pay a notable graduated players that have made their way into the light of being veterans quinton nelson. The guard. one of the best guards was unfortunately into right now off. Its tackle brandon smith. Strong say safety car re willis in cornerback rock. Esn a dope name by the way a lack of first round picks Knocks down the colts in the rankings Dating have enough opportunity. I guess the coast traded down to the second round in twenty nineteen in the now twenty five year. Old rock esn They traded their first round. Pick for divorce. Buchner in twenty twenty So this year's first round pick twenty two year old age eighty pay is the only first round who counts as under twenty five for the colts. pay is joined on the defense By twenty-three-year-old safety julian blackman. Who started fifteen games as third third round rookie. A year ago. Blackman was willing you know. Was it willing tackler in. Showcasing made things happen For sure so kudos number. Twenty seven the seattle seahawks. They were ranked number twenty eight last year so up just a little bit blue chip Decay metcalf at receiver guard. Damian lewis notable graduated players are strong safety. Jamal adams that they were able to pick up last season as russia. Eljay colour and defensive tackle. Puna forward Metcalf is of course a Complete demon Dynamo d- dynamic Look he's everything. Finishing fifth in receiving diy our last season with one thousand three hundred and three receiving yards and ten touchdowns he turns twenty four in december The seahawks spent this year's top draft pick a second rounder on another wide receiver. Dwayne egregious who was the favorite sleeper on A lot of people lists However the twenty four year old esque ridge is nine months older than metcalf Who's already been in the league for two years. So you know you could see where that were. That could be an interesting dynamic moving forward. Excuse me Just to say seattle was a teen that. I don't think we ought to worry about philip. They put people in the right place at the right time in upgrade their systems when need be so What they have right now is really solid on all fronts. And they will start investing. I promise you very soon on getting a couple more new guys here. Like don't be surprised in the next year or two that they really do go hard When it comes to the draft. But then again i guess really just give some crazy people in there had to be somewhere on a lower the in so we'll take a look maybe the maybe they'll just you know. Make some traits happen to get some pigs or low balsam pigs and stuff like that. I wouldn't be surprised to happen. Number twenty six goes to the new orleans saints. They were number twenty one last season. Slight drop here. Blue chip players are guard. Caesar ruez center. Eric mccoy aged rusher payton turner. A notable graduated players is the gritty Cornerback marshon. Lattimore one of the best in the game there They got him sitting pretty on here. Man a great area mccoy's twenty four. Just finished his second season as the center in New orleans ruez is twenty two and moved into the starting lineup at right guard last year in week. Four sports info solutions. Change mkhori charged mccoy with only one sack allowed in twenty twenty while ruez had zero one. Eight zero goodness gracious and the saints. Let the nfl as a adjusted line yards on runs up the middle so these blockers are just getting it done. A young body strongman. I'm very impressive. I love me some all. Live in really talking about what they do. And how impressive. It is because they had to go at it every single down every single day. Number twenty five number. Twenty five is the philadelphia eagles. They rent twenty nine last year. They came up a bit because they got some great weapons First off the quarterback jalen hurts is under twenty five. They have him expecting things to get better not worse as he grows They picked up. Devante smith in the draft issue and a guy jalen radar Notable graduated players from this is derek. Barnett edge rusher. But like i said philadelphia's young talent starts with the skills position players But a couple of those players definitely need to show more production on their. You know their second season jalen hurts. He's twenty three years old. Didn't have enough pass. Attempts to qualify for espn's keep your ranking but his qbr of forty one point two would have ranked him next to last On the list wide receiver jalen radar as twenty two ranked eighty third of eighty-seven qualified wide receivers in delays Lining up across firm radar This year will be heisman. Trophy winner devante. Smith age twenty two running back mile sanders. Twenty four leased the backfield for the guys in. You know he's definitely somebody would see more from as well so when it comes to all of these skill players all of these young guys. That's great you got the bodies but now you gotta get the you know. Get them up to speed number. Twenty four belongs to the green bay packers just last year in twenty twenty on this list. They were number twenty two so not too far from where they were But yes blue. Chip players cornerback. Zaire alexander strong safety darnell savage quarterback jordan love obviously for the feature notable graduated players. Guard ellen jenkins Air alexander gyro. Y hobby are goodness. Gracious gyro zander's steel just twenty four years old and the best young cornerback. In game last year he ranked second in yards allowed per pass target in third in coverage success rate. He is joined in the secondary by strong safety. Dardanelles savage who is also twenty four years old. Who is a force against. The run in also was the top five for safety's with twelve past deficient Deflections last season this spring. The packers added twenty two year. Old cornerback eric. Stokes got eric stokes in the draft To the secondary with their first round pick which makes their their secondary pretty much top two. I think denver might still have them be but it definitely brings them into the conversation On offense twenty-three-year-old running back. Aj dylan could be more help. Could be more interest. You know we'll cia. Switches out with aaron. I mean in the time that he's been here. He had fifty five point three yards per carry a limited time last season so We'll get a look and in you know twenty two year old quarterback prospect jalen Jordan love around. They're just kinda waiting for his turn. But i think we know a little bit about him in. Hopefully he will transition welcome like aaron did when he got out there number. Twenty three goes to detroit lions. They were ranked Twenty five last season this season of their blue chip players are tj hopkinson. A guard john. New jackson cornerback. Jeff aku and offense attack opini so People graduated. Were frank reagan now. The center in cornerback amani or To say oh Because that's a tough one. On the young talented detroit is built around the straight top eight draft selections Pretty much coming in at number. Two with cleveland browns Their number nine just last year. So you see the difference. Blue chip players offers a tackle jericho. Wilson cornerback dinsdale ward cornerback. Greg newsom notable players that just graduated from it edge rusher myles garrett in running back nick. Chobe cleveland ranks a bit lower than you might have expected because injuries have kept them from seeing kept us off from seeing What some of the young players can actually do For example twenty two year old safety grant delete a missed his entire rookie season with a torn. Achilles cornerback greedy williams. Twenty three years old missed all of last year with a nerve issue in his shoulder and twenty four year old dunes award has been off. One of the top quarterbacks in the league win healthy he ranked seventh in yards allowed per pass target last season he also started only twelve games in each of his three seasons. He's clearly missed. Some games The young talent on the defense continues with twenty one year old First round pick rookie corner of greg. Newsome who will compete with williams for that right corner starting position Second round rookie linebacker. Jeremiah wazoo kamara is also just twenty one in will compete with twenty three year old. Mac wilson for the starting job at weak side linebacker safety. Rodney harrison is twenty. Four has twenty. Nine career starts with both jacksonville and cleveland and There won't even be room for him to be on the starting lineup. So you know. These guys got a lot of competitive juices going on here to wear. You know it's to be tough to win some of these battles Then there's the rising twenty two year old Wide receiver don people's jones who had an outstanding five point. Nine percent receiving delay But that came on a small sample of just twenty pass targets. The browns also expect big things from third round a rookie. Receiver anthony shorts. schwartz But he still needs to develop from track. Start or real. Nfl wide receiver after averaging fewer than forty yards per game at auburn He's got time. So i won't just wait and see what happens with him at number twenty one. We have the atlanta falcons. They were ranked thirty last year. So on the come up. Good for you The blue chips stars a cornerback. Aj terrell guard. Chris lynn storm and of course tied in cow pits who they picked up in the draft. This season That brother is the future in. That's the only reason. They drafted him a so very high draft. Cow pits is only twenty years old and probably is the most valued out of all of these guys The value calculations that start off this rankings are somewhat conservative about rookies because many of them do not have a ton of value in their first season or to For example exceptions for the. You know five first round quarterbacks. None of their none of this year's rookies Come out among the top fifty young assets in the league They really simply don't know what they are going to do yet. Which is fair There's a lot of depends on dependence in that conversation you know So we got to leave it at that But yeah all right. It is now time for our break when we get back. We'll get into the middle group man up and downers the people. That are probably at least predictable. Are i so stay tuned. We'll be right back. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than our podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast covered from news sports music fashion looking entertainment fantasy football and so much more so stop blurted around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to fill that podcast visit. Www dot gs mc podcast dot com. Follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and google play As always thank you so much for your patients we are back man talking about these top teams all ranked all thirty two based off of their players. Their talent that are under the age of twenty five we are now into the entering. The top twenty The middle group man. All right grew to every time we get to this third segment. I always tell you guys these guys could be hit or miss As far as where the raking so. I'm saying like the the amount of capital we are putting into what is being said right now for pretty much twenty through eleven is like it can go either way. These guys can do better. And supposed to ashley be higher or they can do worse in dropdown. 'cause best believe some of these teams are loaded with younger But they have to produce a little bit more. What teams are in that type of position will number twenty zone dallas cowboys back last year. They were number twenty four only got higher because they added some more future talent blue chip players wide receiver. Cd lamb quarterback trayvon digs linebacker. Mark parsons notable graduated players. Guys that just left his age group linebacker lane vendors in wide receiver. Michael gallup the best young asset on the cowboys roster is definitely lamb who You know put together nine hundred thirty five yards and five touchdowns his rookie season. He was the cowboys. Top third down target by a wide margin of seventy seven percent conversion rate. His overall efficiency wasn't great with a below average. Devi away But that can be blamed in part of you know with the quarterback situation The rest of young talent on offense or primarily on the line the cowboys offensive line Was devastated by injury. Last season in the silver lining. There is that they're young. Talent gets a lot of playing time left guard. Connor williams twenty four center Tyler bulldozers twenty three Should be started both should be starting this season a right guard. Connor mcgovern. Who's twenty three and right tackle. Tarrant st louis started last year but will give way to the veterans. That are coming back. Up at zach wilson. Lyle collins respectfully They still give the cowboys. Plenty of line. Deb now that they have started starting experience. They'll be ready to go When the time comes of course When it comes to defensive talent is highlighted by their first round. Pick twenty two year-old linebacker. Mike parsons He's flexible Match may pretty much matchup player With six six four fumbles and six pass breakups for penn state between nineteen before acting out last season expecting a of things from this year He had a fumble recovery very quick. And you know vigilant In this preseason game versus the steelers the hall of fame game this past week So looking to see more from really number nineteen the tennessee. Titans day Ranked thirteen last year down a bit here. blue chip players wide receiver. Aj brown defensive. Lineman jeffrey simmons guard. Nate davis notable Graduated players are linebacker. Shaun evans in edge rusher herald landry Here's another team. Where most of the outstanding young talent is a year from falling out of consideration for these rankings. There at the end of this whole Young people group wasi aged brown is a yard after kitsch machine and finished fourth in a in a in delay amongst the wide receivers in the first two. Nfl seasons Defensive lineman jeffrey. Simmons has twenty one hurries last season. An outstanding total for a for a five tick is a three four base defense That that's good in that in those terms. I mean guard. Nate davis is a premier road greater In the running game Although he isn't getting the same amount of steps in synapse. I mean look. He's there as another option that they can believe in There are a couple of young players in the secondaries will safety amani hooker Twenty years old is set to replace kenny vaccaro in the starting lineup. This season cornerback christian. Fulton twenty two Had only six games as a second round rookie. A year ago spent much of this season as a healthy scratch. He needs to show improvement His sake year before we can really put all that capital into them The rest of the younger players here are made as rookies Participe part particularly the first round quarterback caleb farley. Who's twenty two years old. And the second round pick dylan Robbins twenty three A hurts the titans young talent that their first round draft selection of talent a first election first round draft selection of tackle. I say a wilson. A year ago was essentially a wasted pig with wilson. Going a wall in in out of football So that was just a waste. Unfortunately but we're here now. Let's see what titans will do this year number eighteen twenty twenty. They were ranked six. They are now here at eighteen. People have caught up in past them. The pittsburgh steelers Blue chip players of course free safety. Mike face patrick big money. They're allama baqir devon bush wide receiver chase clay wide receiver. Juju smith schuster a notable people that just left out of this category while receiver deontay johnson. Pittsburgh led the nfl defensive delay last season. So it's no surprise that It's young talent base is highlighted by. You know the defensive players were is at the steelers. just wish They had them under contract for a little bit longer. I'm sure We'll start with the secondary. With twenty-four-year-old. Safeties microphones patrick into real edmonds. Fitzpatrick is under contract to two more years. Edmonds only one free safety. Fitzpatrick was a i. In coverage success rate among safety last season while strong safety edmonds with seventh in a run stab rate a one year younger at as twenty three is inside linebacker. Devin bush a strong all around player. Who will becoming back from a tornado seal. So i'm sure it'd be excited to add that piece to their defense and Watch out for twenty-four-year-old rusher. Alex highsmith this of veteran melvin. Ingram might have cost him starting job but he had fifteen hurries in limited playing time last season. So i might move up on the offense type acids twenty three year old Clay pool he made headlines with last year's four touchdown game in Week four but he was one of the best third hour receivers in the league all year long Slot receiver dismissed has also still twenty four years old. He will turn twenty five november joining these Two receivers among the steelers skilled players are two promising rookies First round pick. I mean first round rookie. Nashi hairs at age. Twenty three a second round Tied in patrick fearing a twenty two. So they're coming up in rankings Shout out to chase klay pool He had a pretty dope catch in the game. This week. like he'd be up could've fell on the ball or you know just feel har- straight at the sky and i've been there before so i know that is not a comfortable one but debra sub special number seventeen goes to the denver broncos. They were only eighteen last season. So i mean this is pretty much the same case bucci players. Jared judy are wide receiver. I'm not saying the quarterback drew lock. Is you know somebody really should be looking forward to. But i mean is a starting quarterback in the nfl so guess you gotta give him some credit And then you know you got senator lloyd. Cushenberry cornerback patrick. Attained tight in no font Notable people that just graduated from here are idrissu bradley chubb in wide receiver cortlandt sutton Denver didn't have anybody at the top. Win you know the young players being ranked according to the future value but it had five players between the ages of forty and between numbers forty and one hundred twenty will start off on off. It's of line with wide receiver. Jerry judy. The office of sites are with jared. Judy still just twenty two years old. After his first year in the nfl jer Judy had very frustrating for season. Catching only seventy percent of the passes. that's sports info Deemed catchable So you know kind of saying on him. But all the talent in potential steal there and seventy five percent. Oh judy's receptions went from first downs and touchdowns. It is good news that judy had dropped. I mean that drop isn't very strongly correlated from last year so he still has room to grow. don't be surprised if he has a much better season this year to go. Come down to the quarterback or meaning. We all know this right. It's gonna come back to quarterback but until then we will just gonna have to wait and see what it really plays out to be number sixteen. The chicago bears falling right here in the middle man at the threshold audits cargo barriers. They ranked twenty six last year. So you know jumping up. Ten spots. is significant to say that their futures looking a little writer and what could be the biggest piece of that. Well they just have to quarterback justin fields The quarterback A guy that was just in a championship guide has been doing great at ohio state Very good very good legs. But i mean let me not give him all shot himself. They also have linebacker requirements mid than cornerback. Jalen johnson. the bears have good young talent. They do on both sides of the ball. Although the defense talent is more proven than the offenses Like i said as much as i wanna give high praise to just field. We haven't seen him do anything in the nfl. The defense led by linebacker required. Smith still just twenty four years old after three years in the league submit tied for the league. A league defeats Last year in ranked number one in pass coverage success rate according to Sports info solutions Nose tackle balau nichols is also twenty four years old and he had He had a breakout season. Playing in pace of eighty goldman in place of eddie goldman who had opted out because cove so nichols had a sixteen hurries in the pass. Rush in ranked tenth among interiors alignments in run stop rating The offense also features twenty two year old tied in col- nitin call it. i guess Twenty four year old running back. David montgomery The left side of the office of line features to twenty-three-year-old linemen tackle heaven jenkins Is a little old for a rookie guard. James daniels is also young for a player. Who's already has three years of nfl. Experience going up to number fifteen cus good number They will number four last year. Track down a little bit. But like i said it's because a lot of Individuals moved themselves up not necessarily cook buffalo made themselves fall but Notable blue chip players belong to linebacker tremaine edmonds defensive tackle ed oliver wide receiver. Gabriel davis notable graduated players. Are josh allen quarterback that just got paid and then cornerback. Taryn johnson Josh allen. Turn twenty five in may which is a big reason the bills took the tumble this low of rankings. For under twenty five years old But they're still a good amount of young talent at other positions The best assets are on the defensive side of the ball linebacker tremain edmond still just twenty three even after three years in league as we keep seeing this trend the bills have him under a contract through twenty twenty two. He makes a ton of plays although the charting stats of both Although his charting stats both against the rain and the past our average For the league defensive. Tackle at oliver's twenty-three-year-old twenty three years old hasn't quite lived up to the The promise that made him the ninth overall selection twenty nineteen but he still had twenty hurries last year among the three sacks The bills also have a lot of young talent at the edge. Rush position This year's to top to draft picks twenty one year. Old gregory Rousseau and twenty. Three year three-year-old carlos Shaam plus a player from last year's draft. Twenty two year old. Aj epa These men will play in important role on the team going forward. Starting with defensive. Jerry hughes in mario addison as both are in their mid thirty so they have the help they know what to look up to and it's hard for them. You know number. Fourteen minnesota vikings. They were thirty one last year. So a huge jump in they can give that thanks to Blue chip players wide receiver. Justin jefferson cornerback. Cameron dunce ler Off it's tackle christian. Dora saw Notable graduated players. Tackle brian o'neill But also i think we need to add one more player here. That for whatever. Reason is not i understand. We're talking about rookies that we haven't seen anything yet. But man we're talking about the future when we've mentioned Justin feels we mentioned in jordan. Love when it's his turn so we got a mention key killing mind killing mine is they're going to pick up in get at it when it's time for him when kurt cousins is done so don't sleep at he undeterred. will monitor be about twenty three thousand four twenty four twenty five yet if he is he needs to be in the graduated section But wires you were just jefferson. Just turned twenty two this past june and is the most valuable young of acid in the league other than The young quarterbacks jefferson rookie year featured in outstanding one thousand four hundred receiving yards in the total Three hundred seventy three d. y. Our marketing him with the five best rookie wide receiver season in the football. Outliers data since nineteen eighty three. He throws michael. Thomas in twenty sixteen Randy moss in nineteen ninety eight odell beckham junior twenty fourteen in michael clayton a two thousand four. He is up there with these guys. Listen to who. He's been named with all right. That should tell you more than enough. The minnesota vikings offense this year will also feature twenty three year old. Guard is cleveland Chosen in the second round on Of last year's draft in twenty two year old tackle christian dora saw this year's first round selection Tied in irv. Smith will move into the starting lineup. After cow rudolph left in free agency. He ranked eighth among qualifying tight ends in dna last season Cornerback cameron dance. Ller twenty two years old is the primary young talent on defense. He was a third round pick in ranked nineteenth and covert success rate as rookie. The vikings do not get credit for. Cornerback jeff glenn Gladdy last year's first round pick who was cut This week after being indicted for domestic violence assault So he was not counted why they ended up here number. Thirteen number. Thirteen was number fourteen last year so moved up one spot. That team is the. Las vegas raiders. Blue chip players. Why receiver henry rugs is russia. Max cries be running backs. Josh jacobs safety. Jonathan abraham offensive tackle. Alex led the would notable graduated players called miller in wire receiver. Hunter renfro his team at here The las vegas raiders. roster Is still showing the effects of the twenty eighteen khalil. Mack trade The raiders had have had six first round picks over the past three seasons The young talent on this team would be even more impressive if all those players were still starting is rusher of kline ferro. The fourth overall pick in twenty nineteen has apparently lost his starting job to free agent. Signee jahic new gokul quarterback damon are knit The nineteenth overall selection last year has lost his starting job to free agent signing casey hayward In differential in our knit are currently twenty four although twenty five or september the day after the deadline you know for the rankings. Actually september. I supposed to be today to cut off for the age groups. Also turning twenty four years old are starting safety. Jonathan abraham in edge rusher who will start opposite of him. Gakuen in max crosby okay Of course i don't wanna forget. The raiders also expect big things from this year's top to draft picks both aged twenty two first round. pick. Alex leatherwood in second round. Pick trayvon So to finish as they get number twelve the arizona cardinals They are number twelve now. They were ranked number three last year with quarterback however murray linebacker zeh new linebacker and colin notable people that just left buddha baker strong safety in a mason coal at center The ratings is very heavily based on twenty four year old column. Marie i'm sure who improved his. Qbr from fifty eight to sixty eight point three in his second nfl season. Many fans are expecting another big jump in murray's performance This season but be aware that by far the most common time for nfl quarterback to make big improvements is his second year. Not this third is usually low stagnant there. So we'll see how that goes other than murray the main young talent on a cardinals roster right now is You know the center of the defense versatile linebackers isaiah assemblages. Avian collins Can be used to run. Stop past cover in all. That's why they got him. Simmons is still just twenty three. While rookie collins is twenty two. They're hoping some big things happen with the two of them. Wide receiver christian. Kurt will turn twenty five november. Surprisingly he's had a negative below average is one. We say negative Receiving delay in each of his three. Nfl seasons are eight. Vira murphy age. Twenty three has failed to rank higher their sixtieth in success rates. In in in either two of the nfl season so they asked him young guys on their honestly struggling. Right number eleven. The new york jets They were eight last year but this year they change some things around picked up. Zac wilson a draft guard Tucker the offensive. Tackle mica bitten in defensive. Lineman quinton williams People that i just graduated from. This is blood On austin in Christopher hindu now they got some other guys in that they didn't name on again I say second round. Receiver had the third highest playmaker score in this year's wide receiver class and was also used heavily in the run game at old miss. So that's somebody you want to Be honest with yourself about that. Could make a difference with his team moving forward all right now. It's time for a quick commercial break when we get back. We're talking top ten stay tuned. This is your ultimate stop for everything. Sports the golden state media concepts or podcast more from the nfl mlb the nba mma. It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen talk. Are i manage john. Wrap this thing up. May i appreciate your patience Hoping joined these commercials But we are now entering the top ten teams with the best one hundred twenty five group amongst them okay. Number ten the carolina panthers. They are ranked seventeenth last. You made it all the way a ten and why is that well. They made a few adjustments Blue chip players linebacker safety germy chin defensive tackle derrick brown. Jc horn at cornerback drafted wide receiver. Dj more edge. Rusher brian burns. And then a gotta give respect to someone that is starting quarterback in the nfl for multiple years Guests cornerback quarterback sam darnold notable graduated players running back christian. Mccaffrey cornerback dante jackson. There's no-one stellar. You know there's no one still value here to match chase young or someone like a young quarterback that has already been mentioned Out of some players however The panthers have a lot of young talent. That's pretty good or has pretty good potential. Okay the best assets are probably on the defensive side of the ball and they're all twenty three years old safety linebacker hybrid journey chan lined up all over the formation in his first season playing. Some of some of the time at linebacker is a big reason. He led all safeties with one hundred. Twenty one total Plays may on. Defense chan ranked tenth at safety in yards per pass allowed and coverage and he has three takeaways with two touchdowns. Last year's seventh overall pick derrick brown finished With forty three run tackles and ranked among the top dozen defensive lineman in the league Were less skeptical about wide receiver. Dj moore who turns twenty five in april Like darnold the The panthers have picked up moore's fifth year option. So he's here. You know at least two more years. Despite the constant change of quarterback In carolina more has put up an average above average Receiving dvr away in all three of his nfl seasons last year his eighteen point one yard perception ranked third of any wide out with at least fifty targets. So that just tells you he's only supposed to get better right. Number nine jumped up tin spice there number nineteen last year to cincinnati. Bengals blue chips quarterback joe borough wide receiver t higgins wide receivers Free safety jessie bates notable graduated players linebacker germain pratt in running back. Joe mixing this ranking for the bengals is almost entirely due offense. We'll start with twenties when he first around first pick overall joe borough who ranked twenty fourth and qbr in his shorten rookie season. If he's healthy. After last year's acl tear the bengals will be expecting a big jump in the second season for him. However borough was somewhat you know old for a rookie last year in will be turning twenty five during the upcoming season here in december. I believe The offense around borough is also made up of a lot of young talented players. The starting outside wide receiver will be twenty two years. Old t higgins a second round. Pick it twenty twenty twenty one year old mar chase. Who was this year's fifth overall selection The left side boroughs line will also be made up of young talent left. Tackle belongs to john. Jonah williams as twenty three who is hoping to finish to having a healthy season in his third in fell campaign. Left guard position will belong to either third year michael jordan. A twenty three. Wow wow michael jordan. Twenty two okay and rookie. Second rounder jackson carmen. Only twenty one So smart that you know. Your quarterback is injured gets a new guys in there so hopefully These young guys will grow in protect their quarterback In we start talking about how they contribute to the second most competitive division did is is gonna get better number eight the tampa. Bay buccaneers man. All the way number twenty last year to blue chip players. Now office tackled tristan. Were of course. Linebacker devon white superstar for a free safety. Antonio winfield notable graduated players receive Godwin are the buccaneers. Have a ton of young talent. After a couple of very successful drafts their most valuable asset for under twenty five Probably right tackle trista morphs. Who ranked eleventh among all tackles incidents per block blown block. This was well ahead of other young talents drafted before him. Last april worst turns twenty. Three in january Starting safety antoine winfield was a physical playmaker also from last year's draft class. He twenty three this month Inside linebacker devon white turns twenty three in february and is still Still has three years In tampa bay before rookie contract runs out of white lead all inside linebackers with sacs hits and hurries and tied for the league. le- lead in in defeats The bugs also restock their pass rush with their with this year's first round pick twenty two year old joe Try on the main reason. Tampa bay doesn't rank even higher in these rankings. Is that a lot of their best players under twenty five Have contracts that run out soon so we don't think they will be there too much longer for the future. This is based off of your future right that includes most of the starting secondary cornerback. Caught in davis G mail dean. In sean murphy. Bunting all our twenty four years old As of they all will be twenty four years old as at september. First but davis has just one more year under contract in dean in murphy murphy biting are having just two more years so within one two more years A minimum of one. If not all of these guys will more than likely be gone. They're not bringing ob everybody back like they've been doing here Strong safety jordan whitehead is twenty four years old and has just one more year with them as well before he becomes a free agent. So they're not much into their future they have gone there number seven which was number one last year Now dropping all the way number. Seven is the new york. Giants blue chip players quarterback daniel jones off tackle andrew. Thomas defensive lineman a dexter lawrence. Running back saquon barkley wide receiver could darius tony notable graduated players as strong safety. Gebreel peppers and guard will hernandez. Here's another team. Where a lot of the young talent still has a ton of potential. It hasn't grown into yet that starts quarterback day jones. Jones is an interesting prospect because he performed a much better. An espn qbr. Sixty one point. Five of which made him twentieth Then football outsiders passing delays which he had negative two point. four percent. Which mayhem thirty sick. Last season Some of that comes from jones is rushing values. some of it comes from his ability to throw deep. Jones was one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the league last year on passing more than fifteen yards through the air but he was the third lowest in yards per attempt on passes under five yards the former strength of jones. Though a form of jones is helped by the presence of twenty-four-year-old receiver dare slayton at an absolute hit acids twenty nineteen fifth round. Pick comes in. Did this thing the later weakness. Hopefully i mean. The latter weakness hopefully can be helped to improve with the addition of the first round. Pick could area's tony because somebody's gonna have to be open Should definitely open the field up for number six dropping down six from five. So they're still the game with the young people in just made it even better this off season San francisco forty niners man san francisco forty niners loaded with star chips. These are these are blue star. Chips quarterback trae lands that they got the draft this year edge. Rusher nigga bosa linebacker. Fred warner does getting pay defensive. Tackle giovane kin law. While receiver brennan notable graduated players wide. Receiver deebo samuel. Here's another team with a promising young quarterback third overall pick trae lands. Lance doesn't turn twenty two until may Whether he takes the starting job sometime during twenty twenty one season or not until twenty twenty two. He'll be throwing to weapons that include twenty-three-year-old brand not you who gained seventy or more yards in six of his final seven games. Last season last will be handling off will be handing off to third round rookie trae sermon as twenty two is second round rookie. Aaron banks as twenty three will be blocking for him The forty niners. Have you know have even more outstanding younger talent on a defensive side than they do on offense all pro middle linebacker. Fred warner who's still Just twenty four sales in pass coverage signed if five year ninety five million dollars extension including forty point. Five million dollars guaranteed. That young men got paid his family's going to eat outside linebacker. Dray greenlaw a match warner with fifteen defeats last season. And also just twenty four years old To defensive lineman who both turns when he four a this october edge. Rusher nick bosa. Who's coming back from an acl injury. in play limited time last season But he had nine sacks as a rookie in twenty nineteen although i mean along with sixty two hurries Third in nfl ups are third in the nfl. That season defensive tackle john. Kin law made the pf w. a. all rookie team Soda guys people. That can make something state. Or least that's what it seems like number five the jacksonville jaguars souped up in here. Coming from seven to five after last season Blue chip players quarterback trevor lawrence cornerback. Cj henderson wide receiver dairy clark wide. Receiver louis lavisa cushion. Oops sorry. miss pronounced Notable players that just left miles jacket. Linebacker offers tackle cam robinson. I mean this one's obvious as we look at it. I mean allotted. Weight is going on tr- Trevor lawrence here supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread Trevor lawrence coming in here. Make some changes. They have travis eighteen in his backfield young feet young bodies of already had chemistry there. So it shouldn't be issue having that all transition or at least that's what you would think I the thing is they got him. 'cause he's supposed to be really trevor lawrence's supposed to kind of be like the knicks baker. Mayfield at very lease supposed to come in. And take this franchise to the next level. Give them a lot better. But it takes wedding. Just a quarterback you know Back office in front offices in all the offices side offices more of the jacksonville jaguars are really going to have to do. They need to do in order to make that happen. He got a new coach. Urban meyer there in southern new to the new to get things done here in jacksonville But yeah Interested to see how it plays along how this will end In the upcoming three years man. We'll wait see what tj clark. Trevor lawrence trips e. t. n. Are going to be in the next three years number. Four drop down from number two the baltimore ravens. Blue chip players quarterback lamar jackson leading the way Linebacker patrick lean. While receiver marquess brown notable graduated players left tackle orlando brown also was traded quarterback cornerback marlin humphrey and tied in Mark mark inches. Which did no more countries down lamar jackson because not every team has someone who has won the Mvp who is still under the age of twenty five. All right jackson walter. Twenty five until january seventh. Yes he his play. Last season didn't match his. Mvp play from the year before but he still finished the year seventh. An espn qbr. And he's still one of the league's most valuable young assets jackson's top. Two wide receivers This year are likely to be under twenty five years of age Marquees hollywood brown is five months younger than jackson while First round rookie rashad. Bateman doesn't turn twenty two until november tapped out with running back j diamonds. Who's only twenty two this season. He turns twenty three To twenty three. In december on the defensive side of the ball baltimore's young talent stars at the inside linebacker position with both patrick queen in maliki harrison too young scenario his Queen was the far more impactful player his rookie season. He bought both the good and the bad as a rookie. His twenty defeats with Were second to chase young among rookies but he's eighteen broken tackles inspite of sports info. Solutions charting also lead all rookies so number three number three shot up from number twenty three my goodness and it's because of a performance That we all now believe and want special individual. The los angeles chargers Jumped up twenty host because quarterback blue chip star. Justin herber is a beast. They also have linebacker. Candida murray offers attack. Over sean slater notable players that graduated is free safety. Derwin davis no not during davis from tv. Show guys derwin. James free safety derwin james There's a reasonable argument that the chargers should be number one simply because of just herbert And what we think. He will be Our mythology ranked as the most valuable young asset in the league after his potential rookie campaign. Twenty twenty a wit rookie campaign. A two thousand herbert ranked thirteenth in. Espn's qbr last year. Which is a per play metric if you look at football. Outsiders d. y. a. r. total metric that accounts for just how much of the chargers offense herber represented. He does even better eight in the nfl. In fact herbert has Had the sixth best rookie campaign of any quarterback since nineteen eighty three Based on passing d. y. He trailed only dak prescott back in twenty sixteen matt ryan two dozen a ben rothlisberger four Dan marino in eighty three and russell wilson twenty twelve. They should get a names. We just had the named his brother. Whit there's louis a name on there. You shouldn't know russell. Wilson dan marino been rosenberger matt ryan dak prescott my goodness digest to tell you exactly where this train is going number two on the list. coming from number twelve so someone jumped up ten spots especially after the guys got the truly proved themselves the washington football team Blue chip players edge. Rusher chase edge. Rusher monta sweet Strong safety camera curl a defensive tackle. Darren pain in linebacker. Jamie davis notable graduated. Players are terry mclaren in col- hoquiam washington. Young talent is almost all about defense which makes sense since washington. Doesn't you know his washington finished third in defensive devi. La last season after one of the ten big biggest years two year improvement on the side of the ball in an entire database that started in eighteen. I mean nineteen eighty three okay. That's how transforming the washington defense was simply a year. Obviously the huge superstar. Here is a defensive rookie of the year chase yang who is just twenty. Two and with a fifth year option will be under contract in washington for four more years. Young has seven and a half sacks twenty six hurries last season. One of the side Oh on other side of the line of monty switches may makes past the deadline for considering on this he turns twenty five september fourth any had nine sacks and thirty two russia's Thirty two hurries. I'm sorry Last season inbetween them is twenty four year old. Daron pain As one to one up to starting defensive tackles He was third at the position In run stop rate last season. He his backup tim. Settle is also Just twenty four. So all of those young defensive line means are really really the doe part of those What's going on there Of course all three of these you know. Starting linemen that they have on the team were first round. Pick so expect good things from him in there all under the age of twenty five. So let's talk about that line is going to be. You know a heck of a thing see years to come. The same goes for this year's first round selection the raw but at the leading linebacker Jamin davis washington is also getting defensive value from late round selections in carmen caro who was seventh round. Pick into twenty but started eleven games at safety and led. The team ryan stops He made his average run tackle after just a four point. One yard game phenomenal Even for safety in the box okay. He still just twenty two years of age so still has a lot more time to grow and get better. Now it's time for numero ono the best team if you haven't realized or haven't been keeping up with who has been named the known one team jumping up from sixteen last year with the young guys under the age of twenty five. Is the miami. Dolphins blue chip players quarterback to a tug of loa offense attack austin jackson wide receiver. Jalen water defensive. Tackle ranking davis. People that just graduated defensive. Lineman christian wilkins offensive tackle robert hunt. It is not hard to rank a team at number one in young talent when they've had five not one not two not three ninety four but five first round picks over the course of the last two seasons. Okay not fair. I know Those five first rounders are led of course by last year's fit overall pick a quarterback to tackle below mini. Fancy tagolo was rookie season as a disappointment. But honestly it's only. The disappointed is only a disappointment. If you compare him to like people like that was doing crazy stuff like justin. Herbert but as a guy that was coming off the bench you know kind. Kinda got dragged out there in a situation whereas team was already in a toast spot He wasn't even necessarily need out there. They come through out there. He didn't know as much as you'd want them to. It's a lot of things that go into. That was going on am virtual meetings. He didn't get the full feel. I definitely camping allows him for that. This year we difficult to have more is on Miami is on top because the young talent here goes far past just to Start off of line where. The dolphins started to rookies last year. They certainly played like rookies. Left tackle austin. Jackson was in the top fifteen for blown blocks despite missing Three games while Settlement kinley ranked eighty fourth of one hundred eleven interior linemen in snaps a per blown season On the defense side of the ball you have nose. Tackle recon davis who played well enough. He made a veteran. Dave van gogh cheek expendable this off season and cornerback. Nowa Could be moving into the starting lineup. If the dolphins meet xavien howard. Trade requests the rookies from twenty twenty are joined by dolphins incoming rookie class which feature four picks in the top fifty edge. Rusher jalen phillips was top set candidate between twenty one draft according to our sexy years And when i say our meat. Espn sex years project. A systems In that for why receivers were not quite as excited about Jalen waddell whose collegiate production comes with small sample size of concerns because he got injured. But there's no doubt he significant He's a very significant talent. In the deep threat he averaged eighteen point nine yards per reception alabama. And you just can't ignore that on. The second round of miami added free safety john howard office tackle liam a edinburgh's sorry They're already they've already cut bobby mccain to make room for holland in the starting lineup. So tough stuff For what's going on there man but that's the thirty two teams man. I hope you heard a lot of good Names out there learned boston. People if you're gonna learn bottom soon because these are the upcoming stars in this league man as always wanna keep up with this type of information. Mass subscribe tune into me comments. Follow us on also media platforms. I'm talking facebook twitter. Instagram gs mc underscore football. We also have gmc underscore blank. 'cause you fill it in almost anything else google it looking into. You'll find something you like here. I promise you but that is all happy. You guys today man. Good night good evening. Good morning podcast. You listen to this anytime. So i'd like to cover all of that are but that's all for meager ladies and gentlemen i'm your host. Dj young's piece. You've been listening to the golden state media concepts football podcast. Part of the good state media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at. www dot jesus mc podcast dot com download. Our podcast on itunes stitcher soundcloud and google. Play this type in gs mc to find all the shows from the golden state media concepts podcast network from movies to music from sports entertainment and even weird news. You can also follow us twitter and on facebook thank you and we hope he of enjoyed today's program.

football nfl packers Fsu clark steelers cowboys allen florida new england patriots Dj young Ladan coach boden doak campbell schuermann Football tallahassee chiefs bobby green bay packers
#377 NFL Predictions: NFC North & NFC South

Strong Opinion Sports

1:10:10 hr | Last month

#377 NFL Predictions: NFC North & NFC South

"Three, two, one. Oh, my goodness. Good morning, good afternoon. Whatever it is for you, I hope you're having a fan, plastic day. My name is Zach shambler. This is strong opinion sports episode 377 welcome in. Today we are doing NFL predictions for the NFC north and the NFC south. Now, I know people worry about my sleep schedule. I am rested, I feel good. And I think I think it's going to shock some people how much content is about to come out in the next two days. I think you're going to go, oh my gosh, she did that, and then that and then that and then I think I hope it doesn't overwhelm people. I decided to break up my predictions into not one, not two. But four different episodes. So today is NFC north and south, tomorrow will be NFC east and west. Probably also the AFC north and south and then on Saturday will be the NFC, whatever is left or whatever two divisions I haven't just named. I don't have it's on a paper right now. Because I'm also going to cover the NFL game that's happening like in a couple minutes. And so how does that two episodes in the next two days, each of the next two days? It's gonna be crazy. It'll be a lot. I try to make it smaller and bite sized. I think people that listen to everything I put out are gonna be slightly inconvenienced, but it'll be it'll be way way easier for people to skip and pick and choose what they want. Like if you only want to listen to your team's prediction, you can find the episode with your division and just listen to that and then get on with your life because I know I'm pushing the NFL season and I want to make it accessible to as many people as I possibly can. And those of you who want to listen to everything, you're welcome to. But for those of you who don't, it's easier for those people and that is my thought process here. I think people do not realize I have a massive massive process. I think I should do an entire topic, dedicated to what my process is running for predictions. People think I just picked numbers and look at a roster excuse me, no. No, I do not do that. I have a massive notebook, 200 pages. Literally. Breaking down every roster in the NFL 32 teams, each team gets about 6 pages. Some teams went more than 6 pages of preparation, who'd they trade? Who'd they bring in? Were the moves good or bad? Who were their coaches this and that? This is my Bible. And then I have a, I'm not going to uphold it out right here for you. This is a massive amount of paper. There are 272 games in the NFL regular season this year because they added an extra week. And so when you look around the NFL, there are only 272 wins to go around. It drives me absolutely nuts. When you look at predictions and people have, oh, like, every team in the NFL is gonna go 12 and 5. Hey, that's not possible. You can't do that because if every team goes 12 and 5, you have too many teams winning too many. So clearly, people I go through and count every single game I pick a winner, and then I go back and I double check everything, and then a triple check everything I'm like, are you sure? And I got this whole process. It's a lot of work. It is so much work. It's days and days of work. But it makes me pretty accurate. It makes me feel very good. And I want you to know that because I put a lot of prep and a lot of thought into everything I'm about to say. And if you see people that have like, for example, if there are only 272 wins to go around, unfortunately, some teams are going to have to lose then. And lose a lot. If the Buccaneers are going to go 14 and three, they got to beat a lot of teams, which means a lot of teams are going to lose a lot of games. And I just, that's where I want to start today, because I think I want to apologize in advance, but not really to the Lions fans, falcons, fans, bears fans. Hey, there's a lot of good football teams this year. They're going to win a lot of games. And if your team isn't good, you're going to lose. And every year I make predictions in every year, I'm usually right about the bad teams and I get, you know, I can't believe bubba like the falcons last year. I told you the falcons were gonna be bad. People got incredibly angry as expected. I get at your emotionally invested in your team. But I was right. So anyway, I want to set the tone there. I even cost for you. You're welcome. I'm going to probably bleep it out, but that's the tone I want to start with, which is it's a lot of work. I'm very well prepared. I've put a lot of thought into this. And I stand by everything I'm about to say. Let's start in the NFC north. I believe the Green Bay Packers will go 12 and 5 this year. They're going to win their division, they will be first in the NFC north. They will be the number two seed in the playoffs in the NFC. I'm very, very confident in the packers this year. Now, I want to start by talking about their quarterback, Aaron Rodgers. It's been a long off season. A lot of drama, I was a part of it, like a lot of and I don't mean I was a part of me. I covered stuff and the way that speculation and the more I listened and had research, the more I went, man, I think it's two people I don't like each other, but that's not the end of the world. I don't think Aaron Rodgers likes to packers GM, and I don't think the packers GM likes Aaron Rodgers. Oh, well, right? Like, hey, the packers GM doesn't play football for the packers. Like, they gotta work the other a tiny bit. But I think Aaron's in a tough situation. He's handled it very well. He can't leave. And if he wants to play football this year, it's going to be in Green Bay. And so his attitude is really, really impressed me. Erin has seemed to find a way to make the most of everything he has this year. He's like, hey, it's my last opportunity, probably to play for the packers. I'm gonna enjoy it. I'm gonna have fun every little way I can. And he's making the best of it. And I think that's very admirable that's impressive and I look at Aaron and I'm like, if they do well this year, overcoming the crazy off season it's been, I'm not going to be surprised, but I will be impressed and the credit in my mind goes Aaron Rodgers who has done, I think a lot of work to not say mean defaming stuff and go out of his way to trash his organization. He said what he wants, but he hasn't said it in a negative way. And I very, very notably changed my tune on Aaron Rodgers, 'cause I got convinced I realized, look, he's just, I think he's handling a good way. So I want to get that out of the way. This could be Aaron's final year in Green Bay, maybe in fact, probably not a final year in the NFL. But I just think, you know, there are two people who are no longer part of the Green Bay Packers. It makes me think of next. One of them is all pro center Corey linsley. So the backers lost their center. It's a tough loss. He's replaced by Josh Myers a rookie. And the packers actually have two rookies on their offensive line Josh Meyers that center and right guard Royce Newman. That's a little bit discouraging early on. Week 7, they play the Washington football team, a fantastic defensive line. And so if you're a packers fan, you are praying by all praying so hard the way that good people in the Midwest do that all pro left tackle David bakhtiari is going to be back for that game because right now he's on the pup list, which is the physically unable to perform list. He's injured. He's trying to recover. Because of the public the way it works out, at least the first 6 weeks, he might come back week 7. If you're a packer fan, pray for that, that might be great. But right now, Green Bay had to move guard L elkton. The weird name, ELG tun L getin, Jenkins, a hard name to say, he's playing left tackle temporarily. And he'll be okay. But if you're a packer fan, you were just praying that you get David bakhtiari, your left tackle back in all pro, in time before you play Washington. Now, another person who has gone from Green Bay not Aaron Rodgers yet, but Mike petten, the defensive coordinator, the backers fired Mike petin, after last year, they brought in a new defensive coordinator Joe Perry. And I don't know that this is going to be an upgrade yet. I have an open mind. It probably is. I don't think you make that move for no reason. There must have been something behind the scenes, but I look at what the packers did last year in the NFC title game. They picked off Tom Brady three times. And if you ask me, that's a really good defensive performance. But I will say the packers have gone to the NFC title game two years in a row, and they had to make some kind of change. It's not going to be the head coach. It's not going to be the quarterback. I guess we blame Mike Patton and move on. Because the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again. And the packers realize we got to make some kind of change in order to try to get over the hump. I don't know that Mike being fired was the right move, but we will find out, and I have an open mind, and I'm curious to see how Joe Perry, the new defensive coordinator does. This packers team is really good. They are not as good as the Cleveland Browns or the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But I think they make up for it with an even better quarterback. Sorry, but Aaron Rodgers is better than Baker Mayfield. And Tom Brady, he's more talented, he's more capable. And I look at the packers man. They have arguably the best receiver in football devonte Adams. They have marques valid scantling, Alma mazar, and a rookie Amari Rodgers that receiver. They also, by the way, brought in, receive a Randall Cobb. Now remember the packers Jim Brian Gouda kuns made a point to say, hey, I did not want this guy. Aaron Rodgers was one of the guys. I say that now to remind you that if Randall Cobb is a great year and impacts either the locker room because he may not have a great year statistically, but he might have a good year where he's impacting the locker room helping the culture of the team. So if Randall Cobb has a good impact this year on the packers, remember, the GM told us, hey, don't credit him. Give the credit to Aaron Rodgers. So I'm keeping track. That'll be fun and interesting. At packers, they have one of my saying, at tight end, the packers have Robert Tanya, who's really good, how to break out your last year, they gave running back Aaron Jones a new contract. They have second year running back AJ Dillon. He is built like a house. He is prepared to have a good year. On defense, the packers have one of the best corners in the entire NFL era jair, Alexander. They have two safeties alike, Adrian Amos is really good. And then Darnell savage is going into his third year right now. He had a good year last year. You're like, towards the end of the year, he got better and better and better. So Darnell savage is awesome, Adrian Amos is awesome. J Errol exam, Alexander's phenomenal. Now, one of the weaknesses in Green Bay right now is the second corner spot. I don't know who it's going to be. Right now it's Kevin king, who is often injured and plays very, very inconsistently. The hope is that the guy they drafted in the first round Eric stokes from Georgia. I believe from George. I might be, I think Georgia, I know AJ Terrell. I don't know, I'm getting a marker for you. I've done so many predictions. Anyway, the drafted Eric stokes in the first round, and the hope is that as a year goes on, he will emerge into the starting number two corner. So far he's not the starter, but we'll see as the year goes on, that is probably the weakness of their team is that they have a couple of rookies on the offensive line. They have a bit of an unknown at the number two corner spot, which that's very little, but that's enough to say, well, hey, they're not quite as good as Cleveland, who is really deep and really, really good or Tampa who literally does not have a hole on their entire roster. But again, you're assuming Aaron Rodgers can make up for it with his immense talent. Remember, he's an NFL MVP, one last year. Now edge rushers Preston Smith and zider Smith need to bounce back that a down year last year. I do also wonder if 2019 first round pick rashawn Gary is gonna get in the mix and make an impact this fall. Currently, and technically, he is behind Preston Smith on the depth chart. Keep your eye on that. Will a former first round pick pan out? We're showing Gary and have an impact this year, getting after opposing quarterbacks. Now, look, on paper, this team is really, really good. Again, rookies on the offensive line. Number two corner, minimal concerns, but again, I just said it a minute ago. Your thinking that, hey, our veteran, MVP quarterback, Hall of Fame quarterback is going to get us over the hump and help us win enough games to get past the Tampa Bay or beat a Cleveland and the Super Bowl beat up buffalo, something like that. Now, you also have to wonder, can they get pressure on opposing quarterbacks? We'll find out. Those are kind of the weaknesses and the question marks of this team. There's not very many. This is a really complete, really good football team. The question is, again, can their NFL Hall of Fame MVP quarterback Aaron Rodgers get them over the hump and beat a really good roster? Or this just be another year? So many years in a row where the packers have had a really good deep playoff run and fell just short. Is this a year where they get over the hump? Or is this going to be another NFC title appearance and a loss? We will find out, but I think it's very possible to packers win a Super Bowl this year. They are contenders. The question is can they get over the hump? And also, can they avoid injuries? Okay. Man, let's talk about Minnesota. This is going to be a rough one. I go through my process, and it's a process that I trust. And what I got for the Minnesota Vikings was them going 9 and 8. And to me, that feels low based on what I know about their team, they brought in a lot of people, people I like. And like I said, I went through my process, like, I got to trust what I'm seeing, even though I feel weird about it. So it does, in my opinion, 9 and 8 gets them into the playoffs, so they will be the number 6 seed in the NFC, a wild card team. But I want to clarify. I am predicting the Vikings will go 9 and 8 and make the playoffs. I'm not saying we'll have a horrible year. At least one of those is bound to hit. But I'm not really excited about the Vikings this year. I think you have some limitations. We will talk about that. Now first of all, the Vikings added a bunch of really good players this year. They added veteran corner, Patrick Peterson, they added defensive tackle Sheldon Richardson, the end Everson Griffin. He's back after a year away in Detroit. He came back home to school, Vikings, we got Everson Griffin back. They also traded for tight end, Chris herndon, and center mason Cole, mason Cole is not a starter, but he gives a more depth on the offensive line. I would think that will help their football team. You can never hurt having more depth on the offensive line. Now, Daniel hunter never left, but he did not play really last year due to injury. So he's back. He's a defensive end. He's phenomenal. I'm really excited for Vikings fans are getting to Neil hunter back. Now the Vikings did let three starters go a little bit more than that we'll get into the fourth one in a moment. First of all, they'll let Riley reef go, he's in Cincinnati. Anthony Harris goes with safety. They let tight end Kyle Rudolph gullies now with the New York Giants. And parting ways with those guys Riley reef, Anthony Harris, covered off probably all the right moves for your football team. You don't want to pay like you don't want to pay overpay Kyle Rudolph to not have a good year. Although tight end irv Smith junior got hurt. He's likely out for the year. That was a tough blow. I wonder if it made people maybe we should have kept coward off, but they did trade for Chris herndon. That explains that move. So I'm like, yeah, well, it's a wash in the end. One big weakness on this team is depth in the secondary. If anybody gets hurt, Minnesota's past defense will suffer. They cut former first round pick Jeff gladney in August after he got in trouble. That was a big loss. I'm not going to pretend it wasn't. It's a big deal. Now on offense, I love love, love their running back Dalvin cook. Chef's kiss, he's phenomenal. He's one of the best in the NFL. He could run the ball well. He can catch passes. He's a great blocker. It is rare to see a running back who's like an elite phenomenal pass blocker. They have that endowment cook. He's a stud. Minnesota has two star receivers, Adam Thielen and Justin Jefferson. Now the offensive line, it's weird. It's weakness, but I feel good about it. Because Minnesota is trying. They are really trying to build their offensive line. I got to give them credit for that. Center Garrett Bradbury was the first round pick in 2019. They're left guard Ezra Cleveland was a second round pick in 2020. They also just drafted Christian Dario to be their new left tackle. Now, currently, Rashad hills are starting left tackle because Christian Garissa is recovering from an injury. But the Vikings offensive line, I don't think they're quite where they need to be yet, but they are making progress. And I think in a year or two, man, when those young guys develop their early picks in the NFL Draft, last couple of years, when they develop, it could no longer be a question mark for the offensive line. It could eventually be a strength kind of like where you look at like New Orleans has a great offensive line. I think eventually you could see Minnesota competing with a team like that where you're like, oh wow, they're offensive line is really, really good. I think the way that the Vikings invested in young players on the offensive line, very, very good. It doesn't happen enough in the NFL. I love the thought process behind what the Vikings are doing. Now, before we talk about the Vikings quarterback, this will be oh, Kirk Cousins is gonna be the one that I think will be it'll be interesting. I want to talk about the defense first before we do anything else. I have really, really high hopes for this Vikings defense. They have depth. They have veterans. They have some really good players. Daniel hunter, defensive end, linebackers, Anthony Barr, Eric Kendricks, safety Harrison, Smith is on a new contract. They got two veteran corners Rashad brielle and Patrick Peterson. Just cross your fingers, just pray that nobody gets hurt in their secondary that would affect them greatly against Aaron Rodgers. They can not afford to have guys like prashad breland or Patrick Peterson get hurt. Now say what you want about Mike Zimmer, a lot of people say that Mike Zimmer might be on the hot seat. Say whatever. I hear the noise. I hear, I get it. I'm not so sure we should blame him. We'll talk about that in a moment. But the one thing you can not deny about my Zimmer, he is a fantastic defensive coach. Like, if I was a quarterback in the NFL, one of the few guys, I wouldn't want to face Bill Belichick and I would not want to play against Mike Zimmer's teams. His blitz is a ridiculous. The fact that he has veterans gives him even more power, like having veterans as such a good thing for Mike Zimmer who he needs guys who are smart who can learn their scheme and do a lot of stuff. I have the Vikings defense looks really, really good. I have very, very high hopes for them. And I really, really respect their head coach Mike Zimmer. Now here is the key to the Viking season. Their quarterback Kirk Cousins needs a step, the up. And I like him. Seems like a nice dude. I remember rooting for a Kirk Cousins at Michigan state. Then in Washington, I was very happy when Kirk got paid, got a big contract out to go to Minnesota. Finally, a team that believes in him, and the Vikings did believe in him. And I believed in him. And then I waited and I waited and I waited and enough is enough. This year, Kirk has a lot of help. Great running back. Star receivers, young offensive line, a great defense. It's time to deliver. Like I am out of patience. And there's a couple games this year where Kirk Cousins is going to need to play great. If they're going to win, like week four against Cleveland. Both packers games. They play the Chargers week ten at San Francisco week 12 against Pittsburgh week 14, the rams, week 16. And I only have those really tough games I listed. I listed 6 of them. I only have the Minnesota Vikings winning one of those 6 games. And that's gonna make or break their season. And I frankly do not believe in Kirk Cousins to play well enough to win those football games against really good teams. And he can prove me wrong. I have an open mind. In fact, I like Kirk. Like, believe it or not. I think he's awesome. He seems like a good person. I've rooted for him for a long time. But I can put my fandom of him as a person aside and say, look, dude, you got to play better. And so I'm waiting for him to step up. I hope he seizes the moment. I hope he's incredible. But I don't have confidence that he's going to prove me wrong based on the record I came up with for the Minnesota Vikings. I ran down their season and those tough games, I don't have them winning. Now, the biggest game of the year by far. For this Minnesota Vikings franchise is week 17 at Green Bay. January 2nd, in the cold on the road at Lambeau stadium and that game is going to determine a lot of things for not only the Vikings playoff fate, but what moves are made next off season. Do you get rid of the coach Mike Zimmer? Or maybe that game makes it very clear. Hey, Mike Zimmer isn't the problem here. Maybe we'll see, hey, the person who isn't making plays when it needs to happen most might be their quarterback Kirk Cousins. So does the blame go to Kirk? Does the blame go to the quarterback? Maybe both, maybe neither, I don't know. Maybe they win the game, right? It's very possible. But what I do know is that I have the Vikings going 9 and 8 and barely making it into the playoffs because their team, they got a decent roster. I think they're well coached. And if Kirk Cousins is great this year, they could be even better. But week 17 at the Green Bay Packers on the road, January 2nd, that is the key game that will tell us a lot about the Minnesota Vikings. All right, let's shift gears to Chicago. I believe that Chicago Bears will go for and 13 this year. I am expecting an uglier. In fact, I have Chicago starting the year. Zero and 9. And then during their biweek week ten, they changed quarterbacks, week 11, they start Justin Fields. He's there. He will become their new starting quarterback. And Chicago in my opinion is going to finish the year four and four and have some promise where people go, huh. And I think people are going to think twice about firing Matt naggy by the end of the year if he can survive that long. Maybe not. But I think winning four of their last 8 games might be enough for Matt nagy to keep his job if people agree with what I'm about to say next. Now, there are some winnable games early on in the year. The Bengals, the Lions, the Raiders. But the bears Ross are in my opinion. Has way too many problems and weaknesses for them to win even these games. Hey, who is a better quarterback? The Bengals or the bears? Well, if it's 80 Dalton, I think the Bengals have a better quarterback. And who has a better quarterback, the Raiders? Or Chicago? I think the Raiders do. And the Raiders have an explosive offense. And the Lions, I don't love, but I ended up picking the lines. I said, man, I think Chicago's gonna start zero and 9, which is brutal. But in my opinion after this year, or maybe even during the year, bears general manager Ryan pace is going to lose his job. And the NFL is all about collecting talented players through drafting through making trades through free agency. And Ryan pace has been inconsistent and in fact, maybe even terrible at all three of those things that a general manager needs to do. In fact, one of the only good things Ryan pace did. Maybe the Khalil Mack trade was great. Maybe he overpaid. That's a debate for another day, but one of the best things I think he did is honest way out hopefully. Hopefully on his way out. He gave Chicago their franchise quarterback Justin Fields. I believe in Justin and I also think that Justin Fields paired with Matt nagy who is a creative play caller and better than people think. I think Matt nagy plus Justin Fields is a good match, but you got to give Justin Fields time to develop. They're going to start own 9. It's going to be ugly. It's going to be really bad. And in fact, I think a lot of people are going to be tempted to play Justin Fields because of how bad the bear's offensive line is. Don't do it. I'll get to why in a moment, but I think if you let Justin Fields develop give him time, then we could see magic happen in Chicago. He could be the best quarterback you've had in a long time. What you don't want to do is put Justin Fields on the field, it's kind of a pun, they're not really, but it's last name is fields, just in soldier fields. Anyway, what you don't want to do is put Justin out there before he's ready. Now, I have defended the bears head coach Matt nagy for years. And I blame all of the bears problems on their former starting quarterback, Mitchell trubisky. And I even did a topic. I'm like, hey, Matt nagy on the hot seat, I think he is. I think his job is in danger and at risk. But then I realized Matt nagy didn't pick Mitchell trubisky. Matt nagy got hired as a bears head coach and Mitchell trubisky was already there. Who's the person who drafted Mitchell trubisky? Who's the person who not only drafted Mitchell trubisky, but traded up in the draft to go get him? Ryan pace made that happen. Ryan pace as the person to blame. And then I look at this bear's roster. Their team is a mess. Oh my gosh, suddenly, when I stopped drinking the Kool-Aid, I'm like, okay, what's happening here? And I've never seen the matrix, but I know there's a moment in the matrix where just from seeing a hearing. Well, the main character's eye is just open up and they're like, wow, holy world. I had a whole new experience when I realized, oh my gosh, I look at this bear's team. There's problems everywhere, the person who's the problem is the person who built this roster, and that's Ryan pace. And he must be clearly terrible at evaluating talent. The only things he could do is say, hey, clearly, Khalil Mack is really good. And I think you listen to the media. In fact, they drafted Kevin Jenkins who already got hurt out for the year. I'm like, did he see Brett Coleman's video and say I'm drafting that guy? I don't know. I certainly would not trust Ryan pace. I think it's very possible that he's literally listening to the media to figure out who to draft. And it happens more than people realize. This offensive line in Chicago is not good. It is not good. In fact, they have a better chance to win with Justin Fields. I hope they don't put him out there early on. But because Justin Fields can run around and escape pressure, in fact, he might be the better answer at quarterback than Andy Dalton almost immediately because at least he can run around and keep some plays alive where Andy Dalton's going to get sacked. I think over and over and over again and I fear they're not going to barely be able to move the ball. Now the bear is starting right tackle Justin, sorry, Jason Peters. I want to get that right. The bear starting left tackle, Jason Peters, is 39 years old. He's aging. He's not what he needs to be. And in my opinion, the entire bears offensive line needs to be rebuilt. In fact, the only person I would keep his guard at Cody whitehair. Keep him replace all four other guys. Get a whole new offensive line. At corner , the bears are very inexperienced. They have second year starters, Jalen Johnson, and Kindle vendor who Kindle vendor sounds like a fake name. I was like, that's really, that's really his name. I had to share that. I rather like, well, I guess, that's really his name. No offense to him. I just like Kindle vendors, a hard name to say, it's kind of weird. Neither guy, Kindle vendor or jaylen Johnson has an interception and their entire NFL career. And look, there's weakness after weakness after weakness. On the spares roster. And I'm tired of blaming the wrong people. I'm like, okay, what's the real problem here? It's Ryan pace. Now, there is some interesting talent, a broken clock is right twice a day. Receivers Alan Robinson and Darnell Mooney are awesome. I think darnold needs a speed demon. Alan Robinson is a class of his own. He's a really, really fantastic pro, great NFL receiver. David Montgomery is a good running back. Cole commit is a stud young tight end. I don't know if tarik Cohen, the former running backs everyone to come back. He got hurt. Sounds like he had to have another surgery, the way Ryan pace and sort of question made it seem like, yeah, he in fact he did. If Tariq Cohen can ever get healthy and back to what he was before, I think tarik Cohen has some talent was an explosive running back. Linebackers roquan Smith and this is an understatement. Khalil Mack is not only really, really good. He's like Hall of Fame level good. Klum actually is incredible. So look every team has a few good players, though. Having a couple good players doesn't make you a good football team. And veteran quarterback Andy Dalton is just not going to be able to win with a bad offensive line. I have no confidence in it. I think the guys could run for his life. And then I look at week 6, 7, 8 and 9. It's a gauntlet. You have the packers week 6, then at Tampa, then the forty-niners, then at Pittsburgh, they just signed TJ watt. Pittsburgh is going to demolish whoever the bears quarterback is. And this is why I'm hoping it's not just and feels like do not throw Justin Fields to the wolves for week 6, 7, 8 and 9, protect the guy, keep him on the bench, you have your biweek week ten. Then put Justin Fields in, but a lot of people are talking about our strategy with Justin Fields, wait till he's ready, no, no. Not only wait till he's ready, wait till he's playing teams that won't kill him. Please, protect the guy. So I look at the bears man, they are a mess, and their general manager Ryan pace is to blame. I really, really strongly believe in Justin Fields. I think he's a fantastic young quarterback. If he's given time to develop and give him good coaching, which I actually believe it or not, I actually think Matt nagy could be the right coach for him. He's very creative, can get good play design. He did a Mitchell trubisky. He just had the wrong quarterback. No matter what he did, Matt nagy was never going to win because Mitchell trubisky could not make plays, had people wide open. Wouldn't pull the trigger on throw this down. I feel like it just drove me nuts more than anything. Justin Fields is not that guy. He's a playmaker. And Justin Fields plus Matt nagy is a good mix. Remember, Matt nagy did not build this team. When you see the bears losing game after game after game this year, the person you blame is Ryan pace, the general manager. The bears are going to go four and 13. They're going to finish strong. They're going to win four of their final 8 games. And my thought is, hey, Justin field's going to look good in the final 8 games. When people are going to go, huh, there's a future here. We like Justin Fields. Maybe, or maybe not Matt naggy that coach is going to keep his job. But certainly, man, it's brutal to want someone to get fired, although I think if there's anyone I've decided who is most detrimental to their football team in the NFL, it is the bearish general manager, Ryan pace. Okay, let's shift gears to Detroit. By the way, was that a hit piece? I don't hope it's not. I hope that's not received. I don't want to be ever the person who's calling for people's jobs, trying to do a hit piece. That's not what's in my heart, but I look at this bear's team and I go. Guys, it ain't the coach's fault. It's the way the team is built, and the people they provided for hit the coach to work with. Anyway, I believe the Detroit Lions will go three and 14 and I gotta say, I feel bad saying that because I actually like the lion's coaching staff. And I actually think the way this team is rebuilding they are rebuilding. And the direction they are headed in in Detroit is good. There's some good young players. I think the coaching staff is phenomenal. And the offensive line is solid. Detroit has a way better offensive line than the Chicago Bears. They have left tackle Taylor decker, center Frank ragnow at right tackle. They have rookie penet su. He was drafted number 7 overall. He looked rusty in the preseason. I'm not going to pretend he looks like a Hall of Fame right tackle. He doesn't. He kind of bad actually in the preseason. But remember, he didn't play at all in 2020 he opted out due to COVID. I have patience for pennies. So we'll let the guy develop. Let's see where he's at in midseason. I'm not ready to call the guy a bust yet at all. Now the lines do I coach Matt Campbell seems awesome. I am not sure that Matt Campbell is Matt. Matt state head coach. Dan Campbell. Jesus. Excuse me, I am sorry. Dan Campbell seems awesome. I love the guy. Watch his interviews, watch everything. I know he had an interview. And I'm trying not to mention this every time I talk about Dan Campbell, but Dan Campbell gets a lot of flack because of his first impression. He had his first ever interview in the NFL, talked about biting off kneecaps or something. And people crucified him for that. My guys, come on. The worst offense that Dan Campbell did was get too passionate about football. And I'm like, don't you kinda want that? Maybe maybe the Lions need that, frankly in Chicago. So I love the passion for the game that Dan Campbell had. I apologize for calling a Matt Campbell. Can't believe I did that. It's actually it's written that I know it's Matt Campbell, so is it my fault? I wrote that, but I'm like, ah, dang it. Anyway, I can't believe I caught it. I caught that, which is very it tells you I'm getting enough sleep because my brain is active. Anyway, Dan Campbell cares. Listen to the Utah, listen to his passion for the game. I love that. You can tell the dude wants to win. He cares about the integrity of football and doing things the right way. That dog will hunt. I really, really like Dan Campbell. I also like the new offensive coordinator former chargers head coach, Anthony Lynn. The lines have two solid running backs. They have Deandre swift and Jamal Williams. They also have this very, very cool story. I'm going to butcher his name. I apologize in advance Godwin. Egg it with. Godwin iguaque played safety at northwestern in college. The Lions actually moved him to running back. And he made the roster. Even at a couple touchdowns in the priest, and I'm like, Jesus, Godwin, IG web UK, right? I think I probably butchered his name. I apologize, but that's a cool story to go from safety to running back in the NFL and make it? Oh my gosh, I love that I'm rooting for that guy endlessly. Now, another move of the lines made was they signed receiver Tyrell Williams. He was cut by the Raiders. Now, they are hoping that Tyrell Williams is going to be great for the Detroit Lions. They needed a number one receiver. I think it's possible, the Raiders cut them because they were overpaying him. Not necessarily because he's a bad receiver that's not going to do anything for them. So there's hope there. They have rookie receiver almond Ross saint Brown who is a stud. Played at USC, phenomenal. That's a great weapon for the Mike. He's an underrated rookie receiver. He's going to do very, very well. They have star tight end, TJ Hawkins and I am sweating bullets, and I'm trying not to. TJ Hawkins had made his first ever Pro Bowl. He's now entering year three of his career. On defense, the lines add a defensive end Michael brockers from the LA rams. Now, their secondary as a whole is not great in Detroit. They are likely to get shredded by Aaron Rodgers. Now, I know that's not new for Detroit Lions fans, but I'm just letting you know now that's what's probably going to happen. Coroner Jeff Fukuda was drafted number three overall in 2020. And he had a horrible rookie year. It was brutal. It was really, really terrible. And frankly, Jeff Okuda is in danger of becoming a bust if he doesn't play better and pick it up. Now, I'm also curious to see how linebackers Jamie Collins and Trey flowers does. They've done some good stuff early on in their NFL career. I don't know if they're going to be great yet. But look, Detroit is a team I feel like weirdly surprisingly optimistic about. I have them going three and 14 now, this is where I could be wrong. And it's important to say that I want to be very, very clear and be honest about what's going on. I simply have zero confidence in the Detroit Lions quarterback, Jared Goff. They traded for him from the LA rams. Look, the rams his former team wanted to get rid of him so badly. They paired him in a trade with not one but two first round picks. That is how badly the rams wanted to get rid of him. If it works out, by the way, it's a great trade because maybe the rams got a steal. They got a franchise quarterback and two first round picks in the same trade. But again, if Jared Goff was good, then the rams would not have gotten rid of him. And it's not like I have a bad coach. Sean mcvay did everything he could in LA, which aired Goff. He did not pick Jared Goff he inherited Jared Goff from Jeff Fisher, the former head coach. I don't blame Sean mcvay there. Clearly, if Sean mcvay couldn't make it work, then I don't think anybody can. So I frankly do not see how Jared Goff goes from LA, a better football team. To a worse team in Detroit, and somehow gets better. I just don't buy that's going to happen. So I have no confidence in Jared Goff and his ability to win games in Detroit. I don't believe in the guy. Now here's the good news. The lions are going to go in my opinion three and 14. They also have a bunch of our strong picks, so whether they trade up to higher in the draft or pick somebody with a pics they have, it's going to be very doable and very easy for Detroit to replace Jared Goff. You get a year if he works great, you get a you get a really cheap first round, sorry. You get a really cheap quarterback to your golf, if Jared Goff pans out, if he fails, no problem. You can very easily replace him with the picture you got in the picture already have. So I think no matter what the trade was a really, really good move for Detroit to trade for Jared gaff. You sacrificed probably a year of your rebuild with potentially a bad quarterback, but it's worth it if it pays off and either way you win. So I just think that the lines are headed in a good direction. I do not believe that I think the lines are going to have to get a new quarterback. They're going to go three and 14. Week 7 is going to be fun, by the way. Week 7, the Lions play in LA against the LA rams, Jared Goff's former team, frankly, I think the rams are going to embarrass Detroit and embarrass Jared Goff. It should be interesting, they'll keep her eye on that game when I do every week. I do like my the biggest storylines of the week. Week 7, that will be one of the biggest storylines, but lions man, the rebuilds going actually pretty well. Despite the fact that they think they have the wrong quarterback I don't hold that against them. I think Jared Goff is going to fail. They'll go three and 14, but in the end, it's either way. No matter what happens to Detroit this year, they're going to get a quarterback, whether it's Jared Goff or their terrible and get to draft a new quarterback. The only thing lions don't want to do is be like 8 and 9. Like just okay. And actually, let me take that back because here's the thing. They get a bunch of first round picks. They can just trade their first one picks to move up in the draft and go get a quarterback. So no matter what happens, the lines are going to get a quarterback after this year, whether it's Jared Goff or someone else and I feel shockingly good about the lines rebuild even though I have them going three and 14. Okay, guys, my name is Akshay hamler. I'm going to take a short break when I return. We will do the NFC south. That is Tampa Bay, the New Orleans Saints, Carolina, and Atlanta. My name is Zach, I'm going to take a short break. I will be right. Back. Oh, right we are back. I full disclosure here. I'm having kind of a little bit of fun. I recorded about Tampa Bay. I made sure to prioritize my prediction for the Buccaneers and the Dallas Cowboys so they would come out first. I went through picked every game, did all the preparation, and I'm like, what can I get done literally right before the game starts? I already recorded those too. So I recorded in a different shirt for my Buccaneers right back in your topic. And audio people won't even ever hear this. But if you're watching on YouTube, it's gonna have a cut, and then I'm in a different blue shirt. I did my best I could. I actually was, I was going to wear that shit. I'm like, oh, good. I'll record it. I'll hide the cut. No one will ever know I recorded on a different day at a different time. Unfortunately, I spilled what I believe is soy sauce from sushi on the shirt. I was stupid. I didn't take it off before I ate dinner. And I got the shirt all stained. I'm like, I can't wear that on the show, it'll look terrible. So I'm letting you know now. I'm going to make a cut. We will talk about the Buccaneers right now. I believe the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will go 14 and three this fall. Now, we have to be honest, the Buccaneers are one of the best, if not the very best team in the entire run I thought they just won a Super Bowl. And I think their team has gotten even better. They bring back all 22 of their starters and then they even added a guy or two who can give them more depth and make an impact on the roster. For example, they drafted a pass rusher Joe trian shrink from Washington in the first round. He's a guy who makes a what's already a really good defensive line even better. They didn't need Joe triangle, but man, he adds a really, really good dynamic to their defensive line. They brought in Giovanni Bernard, who is a former star for the Cincinnati Bengals at running back who entering the end of his career, but comes in and joins their running back crew and gives them even more depth. Something it didn't even need. Now, headlining their fantastic roster is a guy. Everyone is really, really familiar with their quarterback Tom Brady. He is 44 years old. But Tom Brady is not showing any signs of aging or slowing down. And then let's be honest because if Tom Brady does, for example, this year, start to decline a little bit. Well, the Buccaneers are giving him a ton of help. They're spending more money than any other team in the NFL on their wide receivers. They have a receiver Mike Evans, a guy who's a jump ball machine who made, frankly, helped Johnny manzel become the star he was at Texas a and M and a Heisman Trophy. They have Chris Godwin when he's playing on the franchise tag. They have Antonio Brown and receiver who's crazy talented. Now, a bit of a crazy man, and I want to give props to Tom Brady because I don't know that any other quarterback in the NFL could manage Antonio Brown's personality and make it work the way that Tom Brady has. Plus, the Buccaneers have a really good receiver, Scotty Miller, who's an underrated target and on top of that, they've got three good tight ends. They have Rob Gronkowski Cameron brait and OJ Howard running back Leonard fournette Ronald Jones and then I mentioned him earlier Giovanni Bernard to give the more depth and the running back position at the running back position. Now Tampa Bay's offensive line will likely be even better this year than it was last year. They're bringing back all 5 guys from last year, but Tristan worf's their right tackle was a rookie last year. And I think it is safe to assume that he'll be even better after a year in the NFL gaining experience and learning a lot about the league. So I think the offensive line is going to be even better. They're loaded on defense as well. Their front 7 is crazy. They have Dominican Sue, Vida veya, William goldston Shaq Barrett Jason Pierre Paul Levante David Devin white like it's crazy the amount of talent they have on their front 7 on defense. This is a group of guys who is dominant at getting after a quarterback. They're really good at stopping the run, and then in the secondary for Tampa, you have two corners, Carlton Davis, and Sean Murphy bunting really good corner to see you have two safeties Antoine Winfield junior and Jordan Whitehead. Now, Jordan Whitehead is not active for week one. He still recovering from hamstring injury, but he's coming back from the Super Bowl run as well. And then again, more depth yet, again, I mentioned Joe troian showing a hard name to say, but he's a great, fantastic pass rusher, getting after the quarterback, crazy talented, like most teams would not have him as a back could be be a starter on their team. And then you have jamel dean, a guy who's gonna make a really good impact as the number three corner for Tampa. Now, here's something I think adds even more insult to injury when you talk about Tampa you give them lots of praise. Not only did they win the Super Bowl last year, but apparently they did it with Tom Brady having a torn ligament in his knee, the entire year, and you're like, that's Tom Brady with an injury, like what? And I couldn't believe that when I found out, so apparently Thomas more health of the healthy than he was last year. Plus, remember, last year Tampa had no training camp, no real last season. So this year they're going to have a year of last year they were spending a lot of they are getting to know each other and working on gathering rhythm and timing and stuff like that. This year, they can start from week one and just roll and I think have a really good year kind of like what, I mean, I hate to make this comparison, but in 2007, the newing a patriots Tom Brady's former team had a fantastic year. They dominated everybody. This is a team that feels similar where, from week one on, they are just ready to go and just kick some butt, and I'm really excited to watch them play. So I have Tampa going 14 and three I think they could actually go even better than that have a better record. But I look at it realistically, even though they are a Super Bowl favorite every team, even the best have a slip up at some point or have a bad game, but if you look at Tampa schedule, man, there's a lot of winnable games. Now week three, four and 5 have some tough games. They play week three. They play at the rams in LA. Week four at New England, that's a really good football team with the Patriots. And then week 5 against Miami, that's a good defense, a young offense, and I mean, those three weeks back to back to back or some tough games to play. But I think in the game that I am most looking forward to, and a game that everyone around the league and anyone that follows football looks at this game and circles it on a calendar and it's really, really excited. I can not wait to watch Tom Brady week four Buccaneers at patriots go back home to New England where he started his career and won multiple super bowls to play his old team to play his old coach Bill Belichick. That is the matchup I can not wait to see. Buccaneers at patriots week four of the NFL season. But again, I want to repeat this. I think that the Buccaneers will go 14 and three. They are a team that should be a Super Bowl favorite and they are one of the best teams in the entire NFL. All right, we are back. Hope we're doing well. I hope you enjoyed my Buccaneers topic. Different shirt, but shouldn't matter. Really, really good. I want to shift now to New Orleans. I am already convincing myself that I might be wrong. I have the New Orleans Saints going 8 and 9 this year. Their city is currently recovering from hurricane Ida. And their team is currently recovering from everything they lost. Although the more I looked into it, I was like, man, you know what? I was talking to myself off the ledge and then I'm like, well, and then they made a trade for Bradley Roby. I'll break down all that in just a moment. First of all, this team got decimated. They lost Hall of Fame quarterback Drew Brees, they lost. Defensive entree hendrickson, wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders, tight end, Jared Cook. Coroner generous Jenkins. They even lost some people from the front office and their coaching staff who left to get promotions like, do not mince words here, the New Orleans Saints lost a ton. And it can not even properly be quantified because how do you handle the value of Drew Brees? And assistant coaches. And to receiving weapons and people getting crushed on the quarterback and the corner. So there are a lot of pieces now that have not been replaced by the New Orleans Saints. But it's not all bad. There's still a lot of good team that there's still a lot of good things about the New Orleans Saints to give praise to first of all. Their offensive line is really, really good. And this is what kind of gave me pause. I picked them to go 8 9, but I'm like, well, one of my philosophies, every time I talk about how to build a football team, I talk about how it's more important to be able to go to offensive line, then you have to have a skill player. It's like, you can draft stake on Barkley for the Giants. You can draft a good receiver if you're the Cincinnati Bengals. But if your quarterback is getting sacked every play or you're running back has no holes to run through, it doesn't matter how good you're running back kiss or how could you receive us are? Not only do the saints have a really good offensive line. They still have Alvin Kamara. They still have Michael Thomas, who Michael Thomas is going to miss at least the first 5 games. He's on the pup list, he physically unable to perform list. He's hurt recovering from an injury, but they're going to have Michael Thomas. He's a great receiver. They have a young receiver Marquez Callaway who I am expecting to have a fantastic breakout year. So despite the fact that literally started the topic saying, well, they're trying to recover from what they lost. It's not all doom and gloom. They've got weapons. They've got the question as their quarterback. And we'll talk about that in just a moment. First of all, though, their defense, the saints have some really really good players on defense. They get excited. I got to slow down, calm it down. They've got two good defensive ends, Cameron Jordan and Marcus Davenport. Linebacker demario Davis is a stud. Linebacker one, Alexander can play as well. The saints have not one, not two, but three, really good safeties, Malcolm Jenkins, Marcus Williams, plus CJ Gardner Webb, who's not a starter, but gives them a lot of versatility coming off the bench. CJ Gardner Johnson is a really good contributor as well. These long names are hard to say, man. Now, Marshawn Lattimore is a good coroner is a former first round pick. And then I was looking at the saints roster going, man, the problem is they don't have a second corner. And the saints must have realized that and said, yeah, yeah, clearly we have a problem. So they made a trade, big news like literally, it just happened. They made a trade for Bradley Roby, a coroner from Houston, and that will fill a massive hole on their roster. They finally have a second corner. He's going to miss week one because of a suspension. But once he's back, he will really solve what would have been a very, very big problem for this football team. That move, plus some me having some realizations about Jameis Winston and well, you know, I might be cutting down a little bit short actually by saying they're going to go 8 and 9. So not having Michael Thomas for a while is going to suck missing Bradley robe before week one will be hard. But they'll recover they'll be fine. Here is the real wild card for this season for the New Orleans Saints. They're starting quarterback. Let me be clear. Their new starting quarterback, Jameis Winston is something that is either the dude is boom or bust. We don't know really how good he's going to be. And during my predictions, as I went through every week and I picked all the games, I played it safe. I had the saints going 8 and 9. And then I thought about it. I'd finished all my work. I literally sat down to record, and I went, you know what, though, Jameis Winston has a really good offensive line. And I always have this philosophy. If you have a good offensive line, you have a chance. And he's got a good coach. And a good defense, and I'm like, man, the more I think about it, the more I realized there is a chance here that New Orleans is very, very good. Everybody knows how talented, Jameis Winston ace is a former number one overall. I'll pick you one the Heisman Trophy. He led the NFL in passing in 2019. Now he has way, way, way too many interceptions. It's embarrassing, and he's kind of a meme for it. But it while decision making is a concern. I also go, well, they have a great coach. You would think Sean Payton a guy who's a phenomenal head coach in the NFL, who kind of saved and resurrected Drew Brees his career at the lowest point. Why can't we say he'll do the same for Jameis Winston? And then you think about what are the saints really lose this year? Well, the saints lost they still have a good defense so they didn't lose anything there. They lost a manual Sanders and aging receiver. They lost a tight end, Jared Cook. Okay. They still have a great offensive line. They still have two good receivers, but by week, 8 or 9, they're gonna have marques Callaway and Michael Thomas, they'll be fine. So what they really lost was Drew Brees, Drew Brees were tired. But here's the thing, Drew Brees was aging. Nobody can dispute it. Drew Brees could not stretch the field, the way he once is able to. And frankly, he never could stretch the field and throw the ball vertically downfield the way that Jameis Winston is able to do. Jameis Winston has a massive arm. Talent and skill are not the same thing. James is a monumentally more talented player. Ding Drew Brees ever watch Drew Brees was never the guy who wowed you with his arm strength. He could zip the ball in pretty quick, but he was accurate and made great decisions. So it's very possible that because Drew Brees was getting older was declining with his age. You could say maybe Drew Brees was actually potentially holding this offense back a little bit at the end of last year. So I am not betting on it. But there's potential that Jameis could actually make the saints even better. I know it's crazy to say, you lose a Hall of Fame quarterback, but that was not Drew Brees prime. That was Drew Brees in his 40s, like really kind of starting to decline the end of his career. There's a reason why he retired. And so I predicted the saints to go 8 and 9 this year. And then I thought about it. And that's the danger, right? Um, let me reconsider. So there's a couple of swing games that could really have an impact on how their season goes. Washington week 5, Seattle week 7, Tennessee week ten, and if they went a couple of those games, maybe when the final game of the year against, I believe Atlanta. 8 and 9 could very easily become an 11 and 6 record or even a 12 and 5 final record if Jameis Winston is really, really good. So I thought about it and I'm like, man, there's a chance here that they can be great. And the more I thought about it, the more I'm like, I might regret not believing in Jameis Winston. So I wanted to put that out there. I guess I have fear of missing out. I fear of missing a chance. I guess it's my ego. I fear of a chance to maybe miss out on looking good for predicting Jamie's Winston to be great. So I guess this way, I'm kind of playing both sides. I'm like, well, I'm cautiously optimistic. I don't know, man. I can not wait to see what happens. The talent is there. There's a great offensive line. There's some good weapons around Jameis Winston, Alvin Kamara's phenomenal, great receivers, a good defense. It is possible that Jameis Winston has an amazing year. And it'll be really fun to watch. They play his old team Tampa Bay week 8 and week 15. And what if Jameis beats Tampa Bay and says I just needed help? I needed a good coach. You bailed on me. I don't think it's going to happen. They're not going to have any regrets. You Tampa Bay moved on, got Tom Brady, won a Super Bowl. But how good would it feel for Jameis? If he beat his old team. And look, week 5 at Washington should be a great game. You have the saints have a phenomenal offensive line. And Washington has a great defensive line. Strength on strength. And then the question becomes which former Tampa quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick or Jameis Winston does even better. And so I am cautiously optimistic about the New Orleans Saints on the low end they will go 8 and 9 best case scenario. They win a couple swing games, Seattle, Tennessee, Washington. And they will go 11 and 6 or 12 and 5, maybe even make the playoffs. And in that case, we'll be eating a Jameis Winston. This is crazy thing. Hey, it eats a W I don't know where it came from. He's a madman. The Jameis does stuff, I'm like, what the heck is going on? But I watched me to eat a W on a video and I'm like, well, it's kind of erotic because the W does the same for victory or does it stand for James Winston? I don't think it's a gang sign. I'm like, wow, look man. I'm going to have fun with it. And Jameis Winston man might be fantastic this year. Keep your eye on that. Low end, they're 8 and 9, best case scenario, New Orleans goes 11 and 6, or 12 and 5 makes a playoffs. And I want to leave it open for both to happen to have. It's the only time in my predictions where I'm going to leave things open ended and say, we'll see what happens. It feels like too big of a wildcard, and literally 31 of my 32 prediction videos on YouTube will say, blank team will go this and just pick an aside stating a record. This is the only team ever in the history of my predictions where I'm not picking a final record because I look 8 9s what I landed on, but I thought about it and I went, you know what? They might do better. Jameis Winston might blow people away. Okay, let's shift gears to Carolina. Let me drink some water first mouth is getting really been talking for a while. This is a long episode. I thought this episode thank goodness I didn't do the entire NFC. It would have been way too long. Too much of a talker. This will be short, though. I believe that Carolina Panthers will go 7 and 9 this year. And that's better than last year. That's more wins. Fewer losses, it's the year of progress. And the Carolina Panthers are slowly rebuilding their football team. And I'm here for, man. I believe in the rebuild. I'm all in, it just takes time. It's a great John belling song. It just takes time. I believe in what they're doing. I like their head coach Matt rule. I think they're offensive coordinator Jill Brady. It's great. He's the guy who I say it every time I talk about Joe Brady. Joe Brady is the guy who turned Joe burrow into a Heisman Trophy, number one overall pick went before he met Joe Brady before he worked with Joe Brady Joe burrow. No offense was nobody. Was a guy who couldn't win the starting job at Ohio State was going to be a 6th or 7th round pick if drafted at all. And Joe burrow didn't just become popular and a star. He got way better. So I look at Joe Brady and clearly the dude is able to help young quarterbacks develop. A lot of the credit goes to Joe burrow. I don't want to take any credit away from him. He worked his tail off. He has a legendary workout, like I love a job burrow did. But it also shows, hey Joe Brady has a history of helping young quarterbacks develop. And that is why I was so excited. When they traded for a young quarterback, Sam darnold, the guy who spent three years in New York with the jets, getting pummeled into oblivion. This is now an opportunity in Carolina for Sam darnold to save his career. And I said, actually, go back, it's pretty weird. I predicted this. I literally predicted Sam darnold to go to Carolina. This is the team that fits best for him. And we get to see it. I can't wait for it to happen. I believe Sam darnold is going to prove himself and become their long-term franchise quarterback. He got to win an NFL MVP. I don't know. I had a person right in on Patreon about that. It depends on how hard he works. It depends on what's around him, but I do believe that Sam darnold is their guy. He will be the franchise quarterback in Carolina and he'll get better as the year goes on. You'll see it by week ten or 11 will go yep. Sam darnold is our guy. We're happy with him. Let's move on. That's my prediction, I guess for the season, 7 and ten, we can stand by, but my prediction for Carolina really is that Sam darnold, their young quarterback is going to be the guy. Everyone at the end of the year feels confident in and happy that they have. So there will be no buyers or more status my prediction. I do not think they're going to have to work hard to replace Sam darnold. In fact, I think every Carolina Panthers fan is going to go yeah, we got the right guy. That's how they're gonna feel. Despite a 7 and ten season, they go at least we got the quarterback, right? We're rebuilding things feel good. We're headed in the right direction. I don't really have a lot of bad things to say about this football team. Thomas Fletcher is a former high school team in mind. He is their long snapper. They drafted him in the 6th round that never happens, but I did a video about that. I got a couple former teammates in the NFL, like literally like a spattered throughout the end of a Sampson, even osario Thomas Fletcher, the reason why Carolina drafted Thomas Fletcher is because he's going to be a guy who are never ever going to have to worry about a snap ever again. I wasn't planned. I wasn't in my notes to talk about that, but I had to mention that now I don't think that Carolina is good enough to make a playoff run. They're still young, they're still growing. But they're not so bad they're going to be awful. They're also not so good they're going to go 13 and four when they're division nothing like that. Now, this is the best offensive line Sam darnold has had during his entire NFL career. They have right tackle Taylor moton, he signed a big extension they added left guard pad elf line. I expect running back Christian McCaffrey to be back fully healthy, have come right back to where he left off before he got hurt last year. He's going to have a great year. They have three solid receivers, Robbie, Anderson, DJ Moore, and rookie receiver Terrence Marshall junior tied in Dan Arnold as a guy who's really, really underrated Dan Arnold. Did some really good stuff in Arizona before he got to Carolina. He's a way better receiver than people realize. And I am really excited to see how offensive coordinator Jill Brady uses Dan Arnold to get him in really good matchups against people who can not hang with him physically. He's not Darren Waller. He's not Kyle Pitts, but certainly, he's a really good receiving tight end. And the Panthers defense is slowly but surely getting better. He drafted younger a stud, JC horn, he's fantastic. They also brought in corner AJ boy, and he suspended until week three. He could contribute after that the other starting corner alongside JC horn is Dante Jackson. He's entering year four. He's young, he's talented. Young talent is a common theme here in Carolina where you have defensive tackle Derek Brown a former first round pick. Defense event Brian burns, you have safety, Jeremy chin, a guy who was like literally second in defensive rookie of the year voting last year. And I'm also curious to see how young defensive eater gross Matisse develops. He was a rookie last year. He is not a starter yet, but I have hope he could be eventually. They brought in past Russia, Hasan Reddick he's 26 years old. He's a former first round pick. He actually played for Matt rule at temple in college. And he's on a one year prove a deal. I think he's making like 8 and a half $1 million. His goal here is to say, I'm going to be really good. I'm going to earn another really good long-term big massive contract. That's what Hassan Reddick is thinking. I'd love to see him do that. I want to see a song ready to be great. I'm actually like if there was one team I had to pick in the NFL to be a fan of it would be Carolina. I love their own or I love their coach, love their quarterback. I like the story. I like what they're doing, where they're building their team. I'm excited about Carolina. And I want them to have a successful future. Now, the defense is so young that they have a linebacker Shaq Thompson who feels like he's an aging veteran. He's only 27 years old. People don't realize how much young talented players are how many young player Tylenol players are filled with this Rosso. They are headed in a direction and I'm really excited for their developing and I think in time, probably starting next year, not this year. I have them go in 7 and 9 this year. I think as these young guys develop and get better and they add a couple more pieces, winds are going to come. But the rebuild in my opinion for Carolina is going very , very well. And I've become, I'm not a Panthers fan whenever I want a Jersey nothing like that. But man, I'm a huge fan of the way they're building their football team and the people they've brought in their values and I'm a big believer in the direction that Carolina Panthers are headed in. All right, final one of the day, let me drink some water. I'm going to pause, slow down. We are entering a new era. For the Atlanta Falcons, hired a new general manager Terry fontanelle from the saints front office. They hired a new head coach. Arthur Smith, who had last year was the Tennessee Titans offensive coordinator. And judging Atlanta right now is hard for me because all I can do is go off the players they have. I don't actually know how good of a coach Arthur Smith is going to be. I have an open mind. I'm not going to, I'm not going to say he's going to be great. I'm not going to say he's going to be bad. I just don't know. And I might be wrong. These new coaches are hard to judge because I've never seen them really coach in action. So I have an open mind, time will tell if Arthur Smith is a good head coach. Now, the falcons roster, though is kind of caught between two places where half of this team is young guys who, I think are the future of the Atlanta Falcons. And half of this team, our guys who are aging and are only really there because Atlanta couldn't find anybody else. They had to fill out the roster. They wanted to make some progress and not be awful. So of the young guys, the best one on the roster in Atlanta is Kyle Pitts their tight end. He was drafted number four overall in the NFL Draft. He is a matchup nightmare. He's Darren Waller. He is Travis Kelce. He is George kittle. He's a guy that people will not be able to guard in the NFL. Some people say that he is the most likely rookie of the 2021 NFL Draft class to eventually become a Hall of Famer. I don't feel comfortable saying that I'm regurgitating other people said that I'm not going to say that. He's a rookie. Let's give him some time. It's a bit early for me to say a rookie is in the running for the Hall of Fame. But what I can't deny is that Kyle Pitts is super, super talented. He is probably the best young football player on this team. And I can not wait to watch Kyle plates play in Atlanta. Now, there are three former first round picks on the offensive line. It's a young group, but they have a lot of talent. And I think in time, very similar to the Minnesota Vikings, if given enough time to develop the Atlanta Falcons could become a really good offensive line that where they shift from a bunch of young guys to a group that's got a lot of potential and in fact, really, really talented and become a strength. The same way that you see the new oral and saints right now. You'll look at the offensive line and you're like, that's a great group. I think in time, that's what could happen in Atlanta they are working on building it, but currently though, they're just a bunch of young guys trying to get better. Now, I like the falcons receivers Calvin Ridley, he's become the new number one target. They have Russell gage. He's really solid. Star receiver Julio Jones got traded to Tennessee. That's not great. The falcons allowed Alex Mack, their former center, to walk away to San Francisco and free agency. I get why Atlanta let Alex Mack go. He's aging. They got what they could for Julio Jones in a trade. And they also brought in running back Mike Davis from Carolina. He did a really good job filling in for Christian McCaffrey when McCaffrey got hurt last year in Carolina other than last year though Mike Davis is a journeyman a guy who's been on a bunch of NFL teams, bounced around the league. I do not believe that Mike Davis is the long-term solution at running back for the Atlanta Falcons. I think it's a guy who's good enough for now. But I'm like, I'm not ready to get married to Mike Davis as the guy. The future running back of the Atlanta Falcons. I think they're going to draft another guy running backs are very cheap. You can have guys in the second and third round to have a really big impact on their football team very quickly. So I like Mike Davis. He's fine. He'll be good for this year, but I don't know if he's a guy long-term. On defense, you have three new starters who were brought into, I think the thought process is we're going to stabilize this defense and hopefully they're secondary. They brought in two safeties, Eric Harris, and Doran hormone. They brought in a corner, Fabian Moreau, and fabien Moreau joins another young corner. They have AJ Terrell who was the first round pick in 2020 for the Atlanta Falcons. Look other than Kyle Pitts, though this Atlanta roster didn't get much better. Like you look at the Atlanta Falcons and you're like, well, they were terrible last year . And in order for them to go from a bad football team to a good football team, frankly, they needed a lot more than just a really good tight end. So I don't know how Atlanta wins a lot more games this year. I think they actually won four games last year. That's about as many as I picked them when this year. I just meant. Atlantis rebuilding. And it's not going terribly. I think in a year or two they're off as a line is going to be dominant. They have young guys like AJ Terrell, a young coroner, I stud Kyle Pitts at tight end. These guys are the future of the team in Atlanta. But quarterback Matt Ryan finds himself in a really weird position where he's 36. He can't wait a couple of years for Atlanta to rebuild. If Atlanta is good three years from now, great. Matt Ryan's gonna be thinking about retirement. So I don't think Matt Ryan has time to wait for them to get better. And I don't know that Atlanta wants to waste good years paying Matt Ryan a ton of money. I think Atlanta, this could be Matt Ryan's last year in Atlanta before they draft his replacement. They might keep him next year. If I were them, I'd try to trade him and because you want it cheaper, younger quarterback who can allow you to pay other people and build the rest of your roster. Matt Ryan's fantastic. I have no doubt that Arthur Smith the new head coach of the Atlanta Falcons is like, oh, hallelujah, thank goodness we have Matt Ryan. The last thing you want us to be a new head coach in the NFL and have a terrible quarterback situation. He's probably glad to have Matt Ryan. But when you look at the direction this team is headed in, they're young, they're rebuilding. I don't know that Matt Ryan is the long-term plan at quarterback for Atlanta. They're happy to have him this year. I frankly hope that Matt Ryan can get moved somewhere where he can win. If we Matt Ryan gets a bad rap, but if Matt Ryan were the head coach of the head coach, if not right where the quarterback for the new and the Patriots or the Miami Dolphins, we would be talking about how they are Super Bowl frontrunners. Like Matt Ryan's not a bad quarterback. In fact, in fact, very, very good. He just needs a good team around him, and the one time he did that, he led them to a Super Bowl. They lost, but he had the lead like 28 to three, literally. So I believe the falcons will go four and 13 this year. They were bad last year. They did not do enough to fix their team. They are rebuilding. And I don't know that Matt Ryan is the long-term plan in Atlanta. It's going to be a rough year, the rebuilding, but I don't know that that's necessarily terribly either. To have a good young core of talented players, they've got a couple of veterans that I think they're going to replace eventually. But look, it's a new era in Atlanta Falcons football and that's definitely good. I mean, the falcons former culture was blowing leads losing big games and I think it was time for Atlanta to make a change they did. And I'm not entirely I'm actually somewhat optimistic for the future of the falcons, even if this year is going to be a really ugly, really bad year. All right guys, my name is Zach shambler. Thank you so very much for tuning in. This has been strong opinion sports episode 300 and 77. Thank you so very much. We're at about a little over an hour and probably by the time I re insert the Tampa Bay Buccaneers topic will be about an hour and ten minutes. I love you. I appreciate you. I'm working my butt off. There's gonna be a ton of content in the next couple days. I hope it doesn't overwhelm people. You'll be swimming in YouTube videos, you'll be swimming in podcasts. It's gonna be like the audio feeds are gonna be like podcast podcast podcast podcast, the YouTube channel be like, blah, blah, blah, you ever get too many notifications on your phone and you're just overwhelmed. I apologize in advance. That's how it's gonna be. We gotta get out every NFL prediction topic. I want to cover some of the current news. So I love you guys. I appreciate you, but bam we are done.

packers Justin Fields NFL Aaron Rodgers Matt nagy Vikings Mike Zimmer NFC Jared Goff Kirk Cousins football Dan Campbell Green Bay bears David bakhtiari Randall Cobb Ryan Minnesota Vikings Adrian Amos Darnell savage
A Doink in Foxboro Decides the Fate of the World | NFL Deep Dive

The MMQB NFL Podcast

1:19:16 hr | 2 weeks ago

A Doink in Foxboro Decides the Fate of the World | NFL Deep Dive

"Now that football season's here. It's time to put some serious thought into what you'll be ordering from. Ubereats whatever's on your game day menu this nfl season ubereats. Has you covered. They'll deliver whatever you order quickly and just how you want it so you can stay in the game tonight. I'll be eating ubereats. The official on-demand food delivery partner of the nfl ubereats is bringing you. Game day deals all season order. Now current verizon files internet customers. Now's the time to get a great offer on the five g. network. You deserve by signing up for verizon wireless with unlimited plan enroll in mobile and home rewards to save up to three hundred sixty dollars. A year and combined built only from verizon offer. Ends one one. Twenty-one availability vary important. Purchasing sign up terms apply. Save thirty dollars a month with verizon unlimited advice gigabit connection plans twenty dollars a month wireless and ten dollars a month off files. Bills rising up. Enrollment existing upgrade files gigabit connection and unlimited wireless plan acquired five-year-old's wideband available only in parts of select cities. Five nationwide available in two thousand seven hundred plus cities. Hello and welcome to the m monday morning. Nfl podcast on. Gary gramling johnny frente connor or and guys. We are starting with an interconference battle. Which probably won't have much effect on the standings when it's all said and done but everyone sees be talking about the sunday night game so we will as well the tampa. Bay buccaneers squeak out a victory against a rookie quarterback in foxborough nineteen to seventeen. And i guess let's start with the decision at the end of the game The patriots who had some success moving the ball throughout this game especially in the second half they get to the bucks thirty seven yard line. They are facing a fourth and three in the rain. There are fifty nine seconds left their trailing by two they opt not to try and convert the first down. They put it in the in the hands in the foot hands of their field goal. Kicker nick folk hits the left upright. Dewey i mean no one likes to call them retrospect because he missed the kick but are we okay with the call in real time. Yeah i think that's exactly it gary. When they made the decision it was a little surprising because it was a fifty six yard or in driving rain and like you said they had moving the ball very well but then nick folk kicks it and it looks like it's going in and it's like okay. Yeah this was a good decision. They knew what they were doing and then at drinks. And it's like well. Why don't they just go for it. So it's sort of hard to evaluate it when you know you can tell the outcome right but i think there should be a question that we should discuss. Because if you're bell check the obvious move here would be to would be to really try to rip tubs heart out by putting the ball in the hands of his successor and allowing mac jones to lead the team to victory and like instantaneously making everybody in the stadium. Forget the brady even exist. You know. I think that you have to stay true to yourself and do the meanest possible thing that you could possibly do But instead it was just a restorative anti-climactic fright head like a I don't know like a just like a while. I am not in good company here but a a sequel or like a the end of the movie. That didn't really live up to the To the expectations. Like something that's sort of sputtered out. Like maybe the maybe the end of the sopranos or something. You know eight just sort of had that vibe to it where. I don't know. I was expecting something a little better. It's interesting in the context of the patriots overall development of mack jones because they have been bringing him along at a somewhat measured pace. He has been by far the best rookie quarterback to play but at the same time they have done so in a controlled manner and maybe that's why he's looked the best is they've limited the things they've had him do now in this game. They opened it up because maybe they had to and also their opportunities to do so with a bang up box secondary but they weren't willing to take that final step of totally putting the game in his hands. I wonder if they got a little bit skittish after that. One near interception that mack jones during the red zone. The one that that devon white should have had toward the end of the Was that so third quarter or fourth. Can't remember that's how this is a really long game. It's not like that. I think it was four thousand three. Am now that was like seven hour game. I think but yeah. It's i wonder if that sort of you know. Just seated a little bit of doubt with them but i guess the other thing is you know todd bowles probably gonna throw whatever his most exotic Look is at that point if you give them the opportunity but i mean my goodness you have peer to see her and richard sherman who Both fine pros in their heyday but My god neither guy can cover anyone. I mean richard. Sherman is is just gonna be feasted on these inbreeding routes Going forward here and it just felt like there would have been a match up somewhere on the field. I don't know well. I think that's what you would do if you're bella check right though. That's what you've always been good at is considering all the factors making an informed decision and i think that if you look at all the bullet points in your favor eva great offensive coordinator someone that you trust implicitly. You have an accurate quarterback you have two tight ends mid range targets that you spend a lot of money on you have Two other wide receivers you acquire this off season that run these breaking routes really well and you have a bad secondary so i don't know i think that there's a lot of things working for you. That said they'll bell check cut his teeth as a special teams coach. Here's a guy who probably watched. Nick may kicks on every inch of that field before the game started and probably newer his comfort. Level was in. You know kind of knows him really well too and so i. It's hard to say but if we're looking at it from both sides i don't know i think i kind of give that edge to let him try to try to get the three yards and be because i think it has benefits down the road to if you try that kick you know you're going to get second guessed but i think if you put the ball in mac jones's hands. It also shows implicit kind of faith. I think it's kind of a reward for a game that he completed eighteen passes in around nineteen passes. I think that was an nfl record. No rookies ever done that. And so i think that's sort of an acknowledgment that yeah you were in this. Let's take your shot and unfortunately you know you didn't get that and so we're always kind of left wondering now what what might have been i. That's kind of it. It's just a huge bummer. For us the people who just do takes narratives and that sort of thing because there's no real way to look at this and be like. Oh yeah you know. The that missed field goal to end this game was was quite fitting and i mean this game was just all about near as again. It's an interconference game. So it has very little effect on tiebreakers stuff. I probably none and on top of that. It's it's a seventeen game seasons here. It mathematically this was one of the least important regular season games. Either guy has ever participated in if you throughout the you know any sort of meaningless week. Seventeen type of things it just. It won't have a very large wait on on the road to the super bowl which apparently both guys have one in the past as far as i know but Yeah i don't know it's it's it's whatever we're stronger shoulders and be like i guess it was okay to try the field goal and it missed and here. We are now the patriots. Despite the fact that it was a heartbreaking way to lose a game that was touted beyond anyone's imagination really the the build up to. This was even more intense than i expected. But i think he's still are leaving feeling good about the direction asher headed and feeling like your quarterback is really showing steady progress and that maybe this will work. Yeah i think so. I mean i think is weird to say that you know I mean i wouldn't go safari to is to say something wild like it's a. It's a statement. Game for mac jones would you. Would you call it. No something where. It's like a sort of an arrival moment. I don't know i pooh-poohed that today too on our website. The idea that quarterback rookie quarterback arrives. But i do think. This was a significant step forward in mac jones's career and you know had that field goal gone through. I think the narrative would be that in some way shape or form. He may have outplayed. Tom brady a little bit. Yeah you're right he. He did probably outplayed. Tom brady in this game and look the patriots had answers against bucks defense. Which again bigger picture. The bucks have issues here in their secondary. And if you are going to play the type of defense todd bowles plays and wants to play and rightfully wants play. Because he calls it well and he has the team to do it. You need quarterbacks who can cover and they are. they're out to do at this point. I mean they basically hung on in this game because they want the turnover battle to nothing and they the only got that missed kick at the right time when it was all said and done but yang whatever i this is a team that played what nineteen games year ago. Twenty games nineteen games. How many games you play in this league anymore twenty. Nobody knows twenty games a year ago and stayed relatively healthy and it was going to be tough to do again and when you have a rash of injuries and one position group. It's a big issue. When that position group is a reactionary position. Like cornerback is like the back is. It's even bigger issue. So we'll see how they manage this going forward. But we might be in a situation. Where tom brady gonna go out there and start putting up these thirty five forty point games on on a pretty regular basis if if they're going to stay atop the nfc yeah and brady was a little off tonight. We saw that some of his throws that he normally makes a little off target. And i think it's natural that the emotion of the moment could play into that a little bit but it was just a combination of factors and between not looking the sharpest version of themselves. Tonight for there to be additional injury issues in the secondary on top of what they already had and adding that on to the fact that they lost last week. Against the rams. I mean i think there is a lot of work for the bucks to do at this point. There's no question. Bill belichick psychological covert. Operation was a success. You during the week gush about tom brady and you say things like why always wanted tom but tom wanted to go somewhere else. And you know really like plant. Those seeds of doubt and tom Make finally show that fatherly love that you never gave him over those twenty years of of longing for johnny foxborough and then all of a sudden tom rolls into the game a little bit soft a little bit emotional and bam. that's when you hit him I think that was the plan all along. I think it was executed perfectly. That's why you gotta give mack jones. The bought the nc could just drive the stake in but You know we can't be perfect nothing. Can you know the. Nfl doesn't let me write the end days. So this is how the world ends not with a bang but with a joint scott brody. Our podcast boss sent me that line. He didn't say you had to read it. But i read it scott stuff. Scott current verizon files internet customers. Now's the time to get a great offer on the five network. You deserve by signing up for verizon wireless with an unlimited plan enroll in mobile and home awards to save up to three hundred sixty dollars a year and combined bills. Only from verizon offer ends nine one twenty-one availability various important purchasing sign up terms apply. Save thirty dollars a month with verizon. Unlimited advice connection plans twenty dollars. A month of wireless and ten dollars a month files belsky rising up enrollment existing your upgraded connection and unlimited wireless plan squire five-year-old's wideband available only in parts of select cities five nationwide available twenty seven hundred plus cities mallet football. Season's here it's time to put some serious thought into what you'll be ordering for mu burris and since breeds give you so many delicious food options i think about my orders like a fantasy football team the star my team would be a meatball hero with side. Crispy fries and fries. My friends are the points per reception of the ubereats fantasy draft for asleep or pick. Keep an eye out for ubereats game day specials. There's something new all. Nfl season long and they offer a great value for your team. The real star of any game day fantasy food lineup is ubereats. Because you know whatever you order it'll be delivered quickly and just how you want it so you can stay in the game tonight. All eating ubereats the official on-demand food delivery partner of the nfl ubereats is bringing. You game day deals all season order now. This episode is brought to you by hp plus in a world full of smart devices. Shouldn't your printer be smart to it is with hp plus these printers. No when they're running low so you always get the inky meat delivered right when you needed. Plus you save up to fifty percent on inc so you can print whatever you want as much as you want any time you want. That is pretty smart. Get fixed three months of instinct when you choose. Hp plus conditions apply as an hp dot com slash. Smart for details are to the cardinals went into l. a. And basically push around. Everyone's favorite team the rams. Go down in this one and it wasn't particularly close it say Thirty seven two twenty victory for the cardinals game. They lead thirty seven to thirteen until the final two minutes. So lopsided victory here and we will take a setback about the cardinals and broader terms. But as far as this game goes we just kind of have to we are. We are legally obligated to recognize the magnificence of cuyler. Murray at this moment he's really making the offense go. He is the person who's doing exceptional things to make plays work. And i think that plays into the question of how sustainable this is because we saw last season that when he got a little bit dinged up and didn't have quite that same you know. Pull a rabbit out of a hat ability then. The cardinals weren't quite as good. So it's almost a little similar to russell wilson in the early parts of the twenty twenty season. Right be this. You know incredibly hot. Start and you wonder. Is this sustainable. And it's really hard when so much of it is writing on one main person. I wished that jenny could have seen the thoughts in my head because it was like she was just pulled him out for. That's what happens when you work with someone for the better part of ten years. So that's a good thing But i'd say i would say then to to peel it back a little bit. You know. he he's compensating for so much in. The cardinals are playing well right. I think like three of their five offensive. Linemen are in the top. Ten of espn's pass block or Run block win rate you know. Jj watts one of the best pass rushers in the nfl right now. But you're still asking an awful lot out of like third contract. Three-year-old plus veterans like aj. Green i think led the league led the team in receiving today And you know that matchup is obviously favorable which is why he got targeted a lot. But like they're asking a lot of people like jj watt chandler jones rodney hudson and You know i. I don't know four no beyond this sustainable but it is fun to watch like this peak of cuyler at at at his highest powers right now yet when they started to pull away in the first half. There were two where we're cuyler. Just it's just places making singlehandedly. He converted third and fourteen. To keep a touchdown drive alive. And he Sixteen to keep a touchdown drive alive. They would settle for a field goal there. But i mean that's basically eleven points there That you don't get if basically any mcivor murray's your quarterback because we see guys who do amazing things out of structure in this league. I don't know if they quite do it. The way that keiler does in arizona right now with just what doing with his legs and the way he's creating when there just isn't anything there for him. I will say the one difference between the cardinals this year last year. Defensively they're they're more capable. And i thought vance joseph did just an exceptional job with what was a pretty undermanned unit in the second. Half of twenty twenty. He's doing the same job this year. Except now he also has. J. watt and chandler jones in lineup to to do their thing you know and and it's just it's it's it's a well scheme defendants well prepared defense You know you saw one of the interception of matthew stafford. That by murphy had where you know it's sort of. It's what the rams do now. They sort of move one way of being the play and then because this matthew stafford they attack deep on the other side of the field and this time byron murphy was waiting back there to intercept the pass. It was just a really good performance on both sides of the ball here. And that's not to say again that. The cardinals struggled defensively last year. But i think it gives them a little more margin for error should kyla murray sort of yellow only deliver to superhero plays for game instead of five superhero. Plays for game the second half of the season. Yeah that's a really good point. Gary and i think that is one of the flaws and the comparison. I just made to the twenty twenty seahawks because this cardinals defensive unit really good and can support. Murray in wins. It's just on the offensive side of the ball and of course there are other good players on offense. Clearly you know deandre hopkins and he's surrounded by a lot of good players. It's not that that he's not but it's just he's taking on so much of the burden to make plays work but you're right sharing the burden of wing with the other side of the ball is is important and it's a it's a balanced team which is maybe why they will hang around longer than they did. Last season yours was wild to me about the cardinals. I was looking up something When i was writing about them that this afternoon after the four o'clock game. I said i wonder what happened to andy isabella right. That second round pick and remember you and i talked about this on the weak side podcast. There was that video inside the cardinals draft room. It just seemed like they freaked out because the person wanted got taken into their like any isabella and and it was so it seemed so perfectly encompassing of this marriage of a gm on his last legs in a college coach who been fired by texas tech the year before running an nfl team. You go. yeah this that's what this looks like and now like none of that matters. None of the learning curve mattered. None of the gigantic mistakes that they made seem to matter in his availa by the way is not played a snap this year. He was a healthy scratch They signed like eight other wide receivers to replace him and like but they've done this a lot in none of that seems to matter in like the jaguars hired arguably the most famous college football coach in history and he can't win a game in cliff kingsbury who was fired by the texas tech. Four zero with the cardinals. Like just nothing about this makes sense. And i love it. It's it's amazing. I think there's a little something to be said for. I mean look. We love jumping on people's mistakes I want to tear social betters. Any chance i get but the team that just won the super bowl has a gm who drafted a kicker in the second round draft jameis winston when everyone said oh james winston this will be jason lights legacy jason jameis. Winston works out. Yeah he'll be eleven and if he doesn't like he'll lose his job and yeah no he didn't work out. Change jason lee light one super bowl and i didn't even pronounce his name right like the first times air. So that tells you how well this is going to this point but yeah. I don't know this was This i think on basic cable channels. They will tell you this. This was a statement. Win for the cardinals. We don't really have that the nfl. They can't really right into the nfl. If they go nine and eight and say we made the statement in week four. Please allow us to join the postseason but This is a nice win. It gives them an upper hand indie. Nfc west going on the road and winning in los angeles. And i know they have something going here. I think so I'm not ready to sign up for the cardinals like if there is up. Do you remember when you were a will. Gary would definitely remember this It happened a long time ago. But there used to be like the The things that they would mail you were it was like you've got sixteen cds dollar and then but then you didn't realize you're signing up to by eleven cds a month at full price for the rest of your life I'm not. I'm not signing that deal with the cardinals right now. I'm not ready for that But i would. I would like to take advantage of the introductory offer if that makes sense yeah that was the old thing where you you sign up for it and you get your free cds and then you write back and say i'm not going to pay you and they say you have to and then you say fourteen years old and then it was just kind of go away so that was life in the nineties for any of you. Who were in there for it. That is amazing. I never thought about that. Like what recourse did did what was it. The columbia house or something like. Oh yeah. that's what it was. I did that. someone told me here. Someone told me to do it. And i did it a i shouldn't have done it. It's terrible advice but yet nothing happened. I just at a didn't i didn't like apply for a mortgage one day. Be like ooh yeah. Hey you got this stone pilot. Cd nighttime full so your your apr is going to be thirty. eight percent. but yeah say didn't seem like a hypothetical there. It seemed a little bit too specific atlanta. Fess up it worked out. I beat the system. The only time only time i ever have probably ever will our guys. Let's talk a dallas cowboys over the previously unbeaten carolina panthers. This was thirty six to twenty eight again. Another one of these games. Not that close This was thirty six fourteen game in the fourth quarter and the cowboys Really wants to second half got underway. Just sort of controlled. It and we will talk about the panthers going forward. They will remain relevant. But i think we're going to be a little bit dallas centric right here that undercover team over in the nfc east. But i kind of am really interested in looking back at what was going on week four for this team a year ago when dak prescott statistically he was thrilling fantasy managers with these just obscene passing. Totals i mean. He was on pace for like six thousand yards or whatever it was but they were turning the ball over a ton especially early in games and that was causing them to have to throw a six times every week and it just it was a formula just built to lose games. They weren't taking it away. They were struggling mike. No defense Right now they are. They're winning with run game and defense at this point dak prescott is playing really well but they don't ask him to basically carry them in the way he had a year ago. And this just this seems like a sustainable formula certainly to win the nfc but really to to maybe be a dark horse type of team. Come january maybe. Oh yeah for sure. I think this was a dallas team that on paper last year going into it when they drafted. Cd lamb and you know. They looked fairly complete on the offensive side of the ball. The defense was obviously in tatters a little bit. But i think now that they've rounded the team out as well as they have. I think you could totally consider them a dark horse. Dak prescott is one of the four five best at quarterbacks in the nfl. he's one of those players that never disallows you from competing in a game right. You're always in a game if you have dak prescott. He's like you know. I i look at it as like those quarterbacks who can engineer those crazy two or three touchdown swings in the second half like he's one of those guys and so i would say why not and now that the team that i picked to win the nfc east is completely out of the conversation. At this point i have. I'm gonna pretend that. I believe this about the cowboys. All what plus we're seeing trevan digs second round pick and he's really come into his own. Five interceptions i think is the number unless i missed another one in bringing minutes of the game and also i look back to week one and i remember coming out of that game. It was one of those well. There are no moral victories in football. How much does it really mean that they played the super bowl. Champion box tights. But at this point it looks like it did meet a lot that they were a team. That was ready to compete and their performance in that game was possibly representative of how good they are as a team that they could contend with the defending champions and the week. Since you know they've they've built upon that. I think and we have seen this. As gary said well rounded team that can win games a lot of different ways so i think it's encouraging i didn't expect to say that i will say and we all know that rushing attempts correlate to wins because you tend to run the ball more when you're playing with the lead but you look back. The last two years at this point last year dak was attempting fifty point eight pass attempts per game. This year is thirty. Three point two five. If i could peter king present the last three games for dak prescott. Twenty seven pass attempts twenty. Six pass attempts twenty two pass attempts. All all cowboys wins. And we love peter but he loves listening stats in that way. Let's keep the nfc east fever going the giants out of new orleans. Twenty seven twenty one overtime victory over the saints and this was. I don't know it feels like it's it's moving in the right direction here. It's it's a little more of what we hope for. It was a more aggressive offense. It was a slightly slightly more forward thinking offense. And that's better than what we saw from this team for the first couple of weeks i mean i just i thought this game today was really an example of what the giants could and should be offensively yet jason garrett finally got to watch enough cowboys game sincere to a fax over the remainder of the playbook that he forgot to steal and so good for him but i you know i. I thought it was interesting. It's like it. It's the realization of what we'd seen for most of the year. Daniel jones playing like one of the ten best quarterbacks in the nfl you really is developing into a good player. Kenny golladay when we saw him screaming on the sidelines in washington. A few weeks ago wasn't yelling. At daniel jones yelling jason garrett in own i think all the frustration was directed towards the offensive coordinator it slowly and surely he starting to allow some of these like little moments bleed into the game plan to saquon barkley. Long reception was obviously one where you know. He took some player input. That was that was long gain. That sake wanted told him. They're covering me this way. You know there's going to be a soft spot in the defense you go back to that shot later in the game. I think he's moving him around a little bit more and he's allowing daniel jones kenny golladay to develop that that trust in bonn which is this is why you paid for him in the first place. He's the best contested catch receiver in the nfl. You're just allowing the two of them to establish a report darius. Tony finally got the ball and can put in a sensible way You know not like a jet sweep that was you know just doomed from the beginning and was gonna get blasted at yards behind the line like you know. Now you're starting to roll little bit momentum. Wise in as unhappy as people ben with jason garrett this is probably the game that gets people off of his back a little bit. And i have to say in the last segment. When connor said the team he picked to win. The nfc east is out of it. I mean hey. Maybe they're not. We just talked about how good the cowboys are. And of course they're taking me in that division. But i thought this was really encouraging step for the giants because all of the good things that we'd seen daniel jones the first three weeks of the season that weren't being fully utilized and t. The team wasn't turning those into wins and it just felt like the progress that jones had made was being put to waste. Today was different and there was a quality win against the saints. So who knows. Maybe they just needed a couple of weeks for things to come together. I think this could be an interesting division race if i can pull the curtain back in a way that nobody cares about for just a moment. I are are other mitch's out this week. So i was sort of feeling. Connors pitches for of game day columns and we were talking basically giants funeral midway through the third quarter as they had the ball in their own territory trailing by eleven and and i think right after that exchange we had the the saquon barkley long touch about which which again it's like it's a blown coverage it's a blown zone coverage by the saints but if they know the giants tendencies yeah you're not expecting saquon barkley to actually run further than five yards past line of scrimmage when he's lined up wide i mean that's that's not what they do that that's what they did on display and it ends up in the yard touchdown there yet could area's. Tony was a big factor in this one. But i do to bring up the one thing. We kind of wondered coming into the season can get sort of the maximize daniel jones. Where he's giving you the big plays but also he's not losing four fumbles per game since that week. One lost fumble. He is had one turnover in three games. One turnover was the hail mary he threw at the first at the end. The first half in this game. He has not turned the ball over. he has delivered big plays. They basically allowed him to. I mean i think this is the start of dana jones establishing himself as sort of the you know in indisputable franchise quarterback but they need to allow him to do the type of things that they did in this game. Which i don't know i. I hope they will this point. I'm starting to believe that. This is all part of dave gettleman master. Plan right you. You force You you deck of cards such that. It takes daniel jones so long to materialize as a franchise quarterback that his second contract is much lower than that of his counterparts. He doesn't have to sign a top of the market extension and jason garrett working along those same lines where you put so many bad tendencies on film over the course of three weeks that lers teams into thinking. You're going to make more bad decisions. But instead you start making good decisions. What a what. A move by the giants. They're forward thinking that. Is that some forty chess right there. We'll see that look. You can see it you can. You can undoubtedly see it now that there is something there and i'll just wrap this up by saying you know. Connor does his future head coaches list. And i think you can make addendums. I think you can add jason garrett to the end of that list. Put it out tomorrow jason. Garrett was a fine head coach who had plenty of success. I shouldn't pick on him all right. Let's let's let's go to minnesota where the the browns outlast the vikings and one. I thought it was a really interesting game. Because it's basically two teams that run the same offense playing against each other. So it's like okay. The defenses kind of see this in practice every day. And that's always kind of neat to see how that plays out but we are to really good defensive pararn ince's but I don't know what stands out to me about this. It was a fourteen seven brown's victory What their defensive line is doing is basically. It's it's taking over games. It's just overwhelming anything else. That can possibly happen right now and it just to me. It has a very twenty nineteen forty niners kind of feel to it. What cleveland is doing through four weeks interesting and the twenty thousand nine hundred forty niners. Where a team that made it to the super bowl. So according to one bad team could fit that criteria so comparison gary. I see that you're all on board with connors prediction. It's such a. I honestly feel for connor because like this. Prediction is absolutely playing out for him. The browns look absolutely tremendous. You're just going to be mocked for inflating. Make the super bowl and linda super bowl at some point this summer. And it's like completely canceling out your otherwise excellent prediction. Now you know this is the life of the norcal you live. You live by but you know it's an important point about the front four and we joke about it but that is what a lot of successful teams have used to get to the championship game. And i think that's a reason why. Connor picked them go far this season. That may be some of the pieces elsewhere on the defense might need some time to come together. Rookie linebacker a free agent safety. But if you can get pressure up front then it makes everything else a lot easier if the and clowney signing really sealed it for me and just to watch the physicality i mean. Obviously the vikings You know they got up early on that score but to just watch some of that. The situational football when they got into that. I read zone where you know. They're only gaining like a yard or two at a time and like this is really arduous to try to run the football on this team. And it's funny. How like this next. Gen club is built on basically the core principles of of every old-fashioned football coaches. Which is that you need to run the ball well and you need to stop the run. But that's exactly what the browns are doing and doing a really phenomenal job of it and just kind of slapping a different title on it but at point outside of you know Some drop passes. Maybe you want a little bit more from baker mayfield but i. I don't know what more you could ask you this team right now. I mean yeah sure. Baker mayfield is not josh allen right now but the system is not dictating. That he'd be josh allen. They're they don't really want him to be jon allen itself. I think they're perfectly fine incapable of continuing to just sort of win these games with. They've been winning them now. Yeah we saw their only. This season has been to the chiefs next up. They play the chargers which is another interesting measuring. stick game. Because you're playing against a team where the quarterback is asked to you know. Put up a lot of points and can pass downfield on on a whim. So i think that will be another interesting game to see. Does this style of football hold up against the team. Like the chargers and you had a couple of missed connections between baker mayfield and odell beckham junior in this game and it. Just i hate to say this because it's just so It's so trite oversimplifying. Say like it's just a chemistry issue but it really does look like two guys who are individually doing fine. they just they just. They don't know exactly what the other one is going to do. On some of these throws so there is one that would have been absolutely game. Clinching downfield where young odell was expecting over. One shoulder came over the other shoulder. And like that's that's it and that young that turns into just a missed opportunity at that point. But they're still sitting there winning games and yeah. I don't know just the formality have right now. It's it is absolutely sustainable. So i mean until they do the true analytical thing which beats a trade odell beckham for cordeiro patterson and everything else is sound. It's good it's good full. Yeah it is interesting to see how that will continue to play out. Because i think one challenging thing is when you have in your head that people are asking questions or there's a lot of speculation about oh you're never on the same page. Does it get into your head. Is it harder to overcome that. I think with a quarterback and receiver. That can be the case. So i'm interested to see or even like forcing throws right interested to see how this plays out in coming weeks. This episode is brought to you by vandal. Football is back and the best bet you can make is downloading the fan duel sportsbook app. It doesn't matter if you're new to gambling or an old pro fan has something for everyone and has an officials sports betting partner of the nfl. You know your pets are safe. There's also never been a better time to use fan duel because right now you'll get up to one thousand dollars back. If you're i bet doesn't win. You can even turn a small wager into a big payday with the same game parlay bet. Just sign up with the promo code spotify to place your i bet risk-free on fan duel sportsbook download fan duel today. Twenty one plus and present in virginia. I online real money wager. Only refund issued as non-withdrawal site credit. That expires in fourteen days. Restrictions apply see terms at sportsbook dot fan duel dot com gambling problem. Call one eight hundred gambler. Every day can bring changes challenges and opportunities that can also change your personal or business financial goals and priorities as a true partner. Sandy spring bank can make all a bit easier. Someone who really listens understands and then create solutions in hard times and good times. We will always drive to be your advocate today. And every day that's real banking for real life and real business. Visit sandy's frank dot com slash. Real member fdic. So let's go out to santa clara where the seahawks get A much needed win here in san francisco although they catch a couple breaks in this one. We'll get into that but Seattle wins twenty eight twenty one over the forty niners. And let's start with trae lance actually so gene garoppolo suffered a calf injury does not come back out after the second half. He was deemed questionable but did not did not take another snap in this game. A trailer basically got a a full half of football here. It was it was. I had expectations that he might be a little more polished more ready than people expect but he did look incredibly raw not terribly comfortable on the stuff that wasn't really highly schemed to To to basically allow him to to make easier throws in. yeah. I don't know it just looked like a guy who probably hasn't taken a lot of practice. Reps in wasn't quite prepared for the speed of an nfl regular season game. Yeah it's just one of those things that they want to sit trae lance. They want to take the time to develop him because he's raw but they also drafted him in large part because jimmy garoppolo has missed a lot of games with injury and so here. An injury comes up in the first month of the season and lances put into the game earlier than they wanted to. Even your best plans to develop a rookie quarterback can easily go awry. And i thought the same as you. Gary there were some throws that were a little bit high. Some throws that were off target. Obviously he has tremendous ability to run. And you know extend plays and we'd seen that in the trae land package but clearly. The offense stalled a little bit and it was a big swing in the seahawks favor when trae lance came in at halftime. I mean not to say that garoppolo was perfect in the first half. But you have a rookie quarterback portioned into action a little bit earlier than the team wants. That's obviously going to be in favor of the opponent i was. I was disappointed. This coming from a guy who admittedly wrote that even if trae landslide played a few series every week he was going to jail. Change the nfl. So guilty as charged Bad job by connor during the preseason a column writing someone should take the keyboard away from me When the games don't count but it was a little bit lied to right because Were you hearing about trae lanston. Kyle shanahan's offense. When he was coming out this is not going to be robert griffin. It's gonna look completely different than robert griffin and then what was the first couple series. It was bunch pistol. You know kind of zone really thing. It looked a lot like woodpile shan was calling plays the robert griffin and and you know granted that this is sort of something you have to sort of slap dash together. So i understand. You weren't planning on playing him utilizing him. like that. The throwback play to deebo is nice. you know a in in something that they had obviously had success with In the free season. But i was just personally surprised at how raw lance was. Because like we've mentioned on the show before i mean. He is in the ear of the quarterbacks coach during games he was hand selected because trae lance spent the draft season with kyle shanahan's preferred tutor and he was getting all this information on this guy the footwork and like i guess. I just thought that even as raw as lance was there was gonna be a more seamless transition to the i. I wasn't expecting to go twenty. Twenty two but I it me. It's just the the by virtue is not the starter. He's not getting started snaps. It's nothing the game plan. But still i mean it. It is You know. I don't know. I guess i expect a little bit more. You know how long touchdown pass to dido samuel. It wasn't even particularly well on target Samuel was so wide open that it didn't matter but basically had to hesitate in. The ball fluttered a little bit in the air and again because there wasn't a defender within like twenty yards of deebo samuel. It didn't matter but that stood out to me because it was like okay. There's definitely some mechanical stuff that timing or you know tying your footwork to the timing. Whatever work needs to be done that to be a little bit more on target. There still seems a ways to go in that department yet. I think it's fair to give something of a break to a cow. Shane hinton that forty under staff and that connor said They weren't prepared for this. This wasn't a deal where you're rolling out an offense for trae lance and here it is i mean they had to change my game but yeah i mean the thing is look and don't go to say he ran in offense that had a lot of principles that are similar to what they do in. Kyle hans offense. It was a lot of under center stuff. A lot of play action stuff. I didn't think the transition would be as steep as as a lot of people thought and it looked like. He just wasn't ready when he went in there today. And and we'll see how it goes. The seahawks defense is also a little bit of a A little bit of a nice starter. Defense to face if you're forced into action and they moved the ball a little bit. But y'all like you guys said that deebo samuel touchdown was as blown coverage as you can get and that's just kinda that just kind of how it went and unfortunately they spoil the really good performances defensively here. I mean you know. Seattle had four point three yards per play to thirty four on a game It was y'all it's it this. The are lucky to be getting of there with a five hundred record. What's going to be a really good division. And gosh i'd. I'm not sure what else to say about this team right now. They just they don't look terribly sharp. They look like a five hundred football team at the moment. Yeah and it while. It was a little bit of an over exaggeration to say that nobody was within twenty yards of deebo. Samuel wasn't that much exaggeration miscommunication. There's busted coverages but look like jamal adams expected that they were passing off assignments and the corner on that side had a different interpretation. Hard to know exactly what went on the play. But i agree with you. Gary the seahawks are maybe the most frustrating iteration that we've seen you know. You have a quarterback like russell wilson and do you have the ability to score on these moon balls in a second rights but yet they're not a dominant team like there's just like a dissonance there that is frustrating there is and we should note for special teams enthusiasts robbie. Gold suffered a groin injury. Pre-game and Mitch wish now naski. Doing the place kicking was a was a fun. Little storyline until he mississippi. At and missa forty one yarder and things one little bit side was there so you know look seattle. A few breaks need to find solutions on both sides of the ball. Specially on defense but they get out of here with a with a road win in a tough division. And that's a that's good news for them. let's go out to lambeau for a classic match up the steelers and packers in what was a pretty ugly nasty game. Twenty seven seventeen packers. Victory here I don't have a whole lot. Say about the packers performance here other than they kind of didn't quite get to play this one on their terms but they still they still want it with relative comfort. Can't get a break with the rafts. That was clearly tripping by tj. Watch like there was no interpretation. That was not trip. Aig the iraq last week. It's just been a bad run for leffler on the wrath. We were talking last week about coaches. Who have the best angry faces with officials whether or not that can scare officials into Into doing things that they want. Which by the way. We didn't mention that shot. Hockey league went to the cardinals sideline and was like did talking to isaiah simmons right after that. Never syria raked the plane and the so the fourth walls breaking Everything is crazy in the nfl. Right now we don't know what's going to happen But meanwhile matt leflore is just you know he's great. Twenty six wins in his first two seasons the head coach but he's got to get a better angry face and what he did was i noticed like he just sort of swatted his small little play card in the air life like it's just kind of like what like my dad does. If there's like a lady bug in the house like martineau just like in it needed to be. It needs to be better. You need to be angrier. You need to be scarier. I think after twenty six wins. I would be scared of you as head coach and so i think you need to allow that confidence to support itself out when you're when you're yelling at the best but it's also coupled with the death stare from aaron rodgers so drill. There's a little bit more juice coming from the packers. Then just leffler face. I would if our metaphor on very unintimidated person just based on the the visuals. I would have a pre broken tablet brought to me anytime someone wrong end. Pretend flagging something i saw during the play and then just snap it right in front of the official. That'd be that'd be a good use of resources. Snap it over your me. that'd be cool right war. I mean if if you really want to do like that. just don't do it on your head. Do it like breaking the bat on your head sort of you know. Yeah while we're talking about quirky things from this game also the play. When rogers was clearly going to davante adams on third down. But randall cobb the receiver that he wanted to sort of. Make nice with the packers reached up and tried to grab the pass. And rogers face afterward was like of course i would be going to devante atoms on third down like of course. That was where i was going right like. Maybe i'm reading too much too. But i thought that was an amusing moment. Rain is rightfully feeling himself here. I did enjoy the very forced second touchdown to randall cobb. By the way. Which like rogers could've run in with such ease instead like decides to thread the ball into randall. Cobb like just as like a sort of nose thumbing maybe there's maybe there's performance incentive like. He's trying to get brian good accounts to pay out all these obnoxious performance. Incentives but I you know Will a of note here. I do think that the packers defense is playing slightly better. Rookie cornerback eric. Stokes with interception at the end of the game of A ben rothlisberger. i think Is that a couple of big defensive place here in the last few weeks so it's been It's it's it's good to see this surrounding into form after the saints. Caught them off guard schematically there and i think that while it's not the most beautiful brand of football at the moment it's it's effective and i. I don't know who's catching them right. I think this is like one of the most open and shut cases in the nfl teams just going to walk away with the division. No i I grew that. Eric stokes is getting something of a sinker swim type of The period here. And look yeah. He's made some mistakes but it's it's better make them now and they make them in january. I mean we saw what happened when kevin king struggled so badly in their playoff from last year. So you get him get him out there getting ready to be good for him. Yeah the steelers offense. I don't know man i was. I thought there would be some more answers to it. And i think one of the answers and maybe some some their receivers just need to make more plays here. No chase klay pool in this one and and that's kinda the way it goes but boy if i see them. Throw three yards short of the stick stick's on a fourth and four again. I don't know what's gonna have. I'm gonna have my pre broken tablet and just smash it to just a thousand pieces also seemed to be a tense moment between ben rothlisberger and juju smith schuster at the end of the game and they clearly had a couple. Miss connection could have been big plays and just didn't seem like they were on the same page either on the field or talking about things afterward on the bench. How does that feel. It turned out more money to play for the ravens. And come back and play for the half arms bed. Ross's for in the steelers Jude needs to stop listening to gerry's preseason predictions and and flowery prose on the mad canada offense which we have yet to see come to finish. It's the long game here. Juno they look at you go into lambo lose. That's that's the way it goes sometimes. But yeah it's just you know between the the the fourth and medium Me knish with us on these plays on top of that. The i don't know that cover to whole shot the energy they're down ten and there's less than two minutes left they're not gonna win the game but just it's just We talked about this last week. You might be right connor. It just feels like such a give up throw. It feels like a. Let's get out of here taiba type of throw that he makes where it's just. It's not going to happen. There's throw available there. You can't make that throw this morning in your life and it's just like i'm gonna talk to turn over and let's let's all go home. What's damned if you damned if you don't i stand by my defense of the fourth intense swing pass from last week I know that's controversial Not backing away from that. But ben rothlisberger made that point. I think for us at the end of the game. He's like okay. That's how that's the look. We want against picket fence zone. But the alternative is for me to hang back there and try to thread the needle against you know really good defense and you know maybe i should have done that but i think the inference there is like you really want me doing that then or do you want me to follow the scheme and so i think he doesn't know and i think it's hard to read a players facial expressions. I mean i'm not a not an fbi criminal profiler by any stretch of the imagination but there seemed to be these long stretches of the game where he just looks bewildered and dejected. Like a in it really is like this is like a sadness to this like there is like a sad sort of like bummer element to watching him to sort of slump around the field for for sixty minutes. The end is never while. I take that back. Sometimes the end could be beautiful but he in many cases peyton manning. Had a good yeah. I started that sentence but often this or like you know the end of allies career right. I mean more often than not it goes this way and you want to come back for one more shot. But it's just more of the same. And i think you could be right. Connor that some of those thoughts are crossing his mind. Well let's go to the beginning for exact wilson and his first win. I win for robert solid as an nfl head coach as well. Twenty seven. twenty four the jets. Defeat the titans. I think we're going to spend about forty five minutes talking about the titans kicking game before we get to that We'll talk zach wilson and look. This was exactly as as we seen through three weeks. He is a raw quarterback. He's a mistake prone quarterback he is also still a spectacularly talented quarterback and i do dislike when people not old. You watch football and they're trying to pump up the bears offense like well if you take mitchell. Trubisky twenty best throws over his career. You'd think he's passionate like well. Yeah the problem. Is the other thousand throws maze during his career. Like you can't bank on that. But zac wilson turning just a number of high popping a little little flairs to it you know one started with a with a fumbled snap and other one. He's you rolling out in escaping pressure and waving for corey davis to go down field. For a for a long touchdown there was just an element of like just entertainment fun to the way he won. This game of the lear performed in this one that i don't know even if they had not come away with it. It was kind of like okay. Yeah i can get into this. I loved watching him. And i think what's interesting. Is he still doing some of the things that like the concerning things right like the one two three and out stuff he still missing. And that's some of the stuff that you saw in training camp where it's like you know everybody's raving about you know him. Go and deep to Allies more and torching the defense. And you're like okay but in in in like the one on one thing. There's no quarterbacks these balls are still behind guys. Given the touchdown to jamison crowder. It was behind him and he threw it late But he's so talented from an arm perspective that he can still make it work and so i think it's interesting. I think it's a kudo. Sue the jets offense that they are finally able to kinda get that booed action stuff going so we had all that time like you did at. Byu were. He can examine the field a little bit. And then make that sort of an the rogers comparison with certainly a stretch out of college. But you know that that sort of throw and that's what he can do That and he had the one veteran. Moment where i think in overtime he recognized that the titans were in the wrong defense and they weren't lined up and he hurried up a play call and he got a big completion. That set up a few gone. So i you know a there's the bad and there's the good and i think i wrote that he was just okay today. But that's good. No i think so often. We've had these debuts from jets quarterbacks who've been good or great to begin with i mean darnold had that forty eight point monday night. Football win over The lions and then completely caved and genuine. I've been through. A lot of a star is born moments with mark sanchez. over the years. Or gino smith or a greg mcelroy And so i think this is just you know this is a slow steady progressional build. This is good. I mean this is just what you're supposed to do. If a guy throws four picks you know he comes back and plays a little bit better the next week. And and that's what happened. Yeah i was going to say that. I think it was encouraging that he wasn't wrecked by the first three weeks. I think concern. Sometimes when you play a quarterback and there's no veteran backup plan that you ruin him and you know you see what happened to quarterbacks that got hit a lot make a lot of mistakes early and they lose confidence. We didn't see that with wilson and this performance in a way not to compare the one and two picks to each other. But you know. We saw trevor lawrence on thursday night. Make some of those wild plays out. We're like hey remember me like this is why was drafted number. One and i think we saw the same thing from wilson on sunday. Yeah yeah absolutely it was. It was a good week for rookie quarterback here the titans went into this one no. Aj brown know. Julio jones so they're limited with what they were doing offensively they still you know. Derrick henry had a very derrick henry type performance on the ground They still kind of The l. control the clock and all that but Yeah i don't know it. It was They they got to the end of overtime they were set up for a game tying kick at the time probably would have resulted in a tie game result but Randy bullock misses from forty nine way wide to the left and That was the that was the moment. Randy bullock became a titans. Kicker michael badgley. Get on the harp. I i i'm just saying you gotta be patiently your kickers you gotta you gotta give them a chance. But but not randy bullock. Only michael badgley. All right it is time for the lightning is round. We are going to start this one with the chiefs traveling to philadelphia where they They know they still have some issues. Defensively i think. But i don't know i really don't think this team's outlook has changed significantly From what they we thought they were preseason. This is a forty two thirty victory on the road in philadelphia. And that's That's that yeah. I think that's right. Gary but definitely still some stuff to sort out on defense. This was a good game for them to sorta get back on track a little bit after some surprising losses in the first three weeks of the season and it was an ice homecoming for andy reid to win at the team that once fired him so all of those things to get a little bit more. Good vibes after a bumpy. Start to the air. Yeah into with philadelphia. I do think that jalen hurts is not playing horribly. I think this was a bad team and we thought they were bad. Going in but in a promising sense you know outside of the atlanta win. That gave us a little bit of false hope. Jalen hurts in devante smith or playing pretty well and so what else do you want. I mean putting up some points and they're hanging in these game certainly. I mean it was within striking distance for much of the game. I think if you're jeffrey lori and you don't have delusions of grandeur at this point. I think this was a nice outing just to see the team somewhat competitive and it probably leads you to believe that i you know you probably do come out of the season thinking. That jalen hurts by your guide. Moving forward the ravens go out to denver twenty three seven victory. This was look for all the injury issues. the raymond's have had and the fact that they have really squeaked out there last two wins. Maybe they stole one from the chiefs on a sunday night. they certainly probably stole one in detroit alliance. That isn't very good last week. With the justin tucker field goal but this was fairly dominant victory out in denver. And maybe the broncos were not world-beater despite the three zero record and they did lose teddy bridgewater to a concussion in the first half of this one but this race events kinda just controlled this game Throughout and. I don't know this this ravens team. I guess they're just somebody said for. I don't know. Did you chuck it up to. Just you know a coaching staff. That basically knows how to solve problems. Is it a culture thing where you just win ten games every year so it doesn't matter who you running out there or you know they just they. They were incredibly impressive in this one. Yeah and i really loved that. John harbaugh had them run that final play to keep their streak of one hundred rushing games alive. Because i think that just shows that that is important to this team. It's part of their identity. It's part of the way they win games. And that's why they've been successful with lamar jackson because they were willing to go all in on this different kind of offense. This different kind of way of playing football and so his decision to do that. I think was a reflection of that that they know that that is important. Like that's a badge of honor and the the streak did have meeting for the team at boomer on the broncos on the broncos side see teddy bridgewater go down there and just evidence kind of how how clear of the favourite. He was over drew. Lock in the summer and just their inability to get an offense going there And bridgewater going into this game. If you look at expected points added was playing arguably the best football in the nfl and sell a little. Bit of a bummer. To see the broncos derailed in that way but to your point guys. Lamar jackson looks as good as we've seen him all year and the streak is intact I'm not gonna lie. You instantly changed my take on it as you have the ability to do from time to time because i'm sitting there on the tv. And i was like what a jerk thing to do. But now i'm like but banal. Mike doesn't really it doesn't really matter. It's what you think about yourself. So what anybody else. Good life lesson. I suppose lewis. I was gonna say we learn valuable lessons on this podcast. Every week. The bears bounced back nicely after last week's disaster justin field gets his first win as a starter. Twenty two four twenty four to fourteen over the lines at home. I mean it's a game they should It's a game where they got a lead. They you know it boy. The the lions brought it inside the bears ten yard line three times and ended up going. Fumble turtle rundowns fumble. So that was the kind of day it was so the bears got to play the lead and they ran the ball a lot. I know if there was necessarily anything you'd see in this one murray you'd say boy yes. They feared out with justin. Fields is what we know the line so and have a pass rush. Nothing like the browns have That's by long way of saying we probably didn't learn a lot but it was good news for them. Yeah it was nice To for matt negative. Get that one office back. Even though he still won't admit who's calling the place which is an amazing developments in chicago and I love every minute of this clear discomfort because clearly. If you were calling the plays you would. Just say yeah. I'm calling the place but now you cut it. Go through this extra circuitous. Move of saying that i approve the place which is like a very fascinating development and doesn't seem to be Something that you would want to do to expedite playcalling process in the nfl You know like you get the play. Call the headset man. You have to go approve. You know before it goes into into fruition but The bears are going to bear. Send just fields is to shake it off. And i think that's what's the most important thing as football lover of the game is like what's not have these kids of have their careers ruined by one atrociously game plan. Start and you know. Let's let them become the future the nfl and as for the lions they were pretty feisty. The first three weeks of the season. I think this game that steam kind of ran off to roster. That doesn't have a lot of talent. They have a lot of rebuilding to do. I think this kind of performance was a little bit more. What we expected but kudos dan campbell for the first three weeks of the season getting the team up to play and making some of those games pretty interesting a distinct lack of feist today. Yeah it was. Tough i mean there. I was tough. You know they give touchdown they go down. They got like a gold ago situation and ended up losing a fumble on a plate where it just looks so stupid gives us when those moments where golf is in shotgun and he's coming up to the line to communicate something twos offensive line and as he's leaning into say something the ball gets snapped into his face and bounces into a bears players arms. And like that's how your drive ins and it just people will laugh at you and make fun of you and you'll never live it down and that's the way it went. Let's go down to miami. Where the colts get on the board. With a victory this year They will be. Afc south champions. When zoll said and done. I think we all knew that we thought there would be more beef involved in a few more losses involved before it before it went down that way but They go down and get a victory. I think stylistically. This is kind of how they want to do it. Even without clinton nelson here was It was pretty balanced attack. Carson wentz was was fine. He was efficient They moved the ball the state on the field and That's kind of how it goes here. So you know nice. Nice win for indianapolis yet. Didn't take a massive instance of food poisoning to turn the team around As i projected during preseason predictions. I thought st michael owen five and then go on their winning streak but owing three and then going in the winning streak is Is is okay. So you know good for that. Also or articles aren't perfect. Oracles are person also dairies leonard. Still amazing so and as for the dolphins really what's going on offense is frustrating. Tough to figure out didn't seem to have a great game plan this week. I don't know how the coa offensive coordinator system is working but It was just a really tough watch whenever the dolphins were on. Offense coaches are typically so rarely ego driven. They're very cooperative. And guys who love to share ideas and complement other people's ideas and so. I'm sure offense coordinator thing that you know. There's no way that's do from the beginning you know. There's a lot of lot of lot of growth opportunity there with what they need is a seven-man play cohen committee. And then we can really get something done now. I say just just watching what they're doing. Offensively it just and again i i realize i'm the world's biggest she percent fan so i really are. I wear that badge and i had that tattoo. And that's just the way it's going to go for a for a long time. But it looked like they were just basically asking him to operate the to a playbook and again it whatever you think of to what he has as weaknesses you would. You would design a different offense for two then you would i. It just seems like they're not taking advantage of the fact that you have a guy who who can probably push the ball downfield more consistently usable more of a power thrower of a guy. Who's a guy you might be able to do. More design run stuff around. They just don't do it. They started attacking down field You know late in this game but it's already. They were down three possessions. At that point it was too late. So i mean what now that. They're sitting here at one in three. Maybe you'll see them get a little more aggressive in. And and i don't know just proactively try to win football games. I what what. I'm hoping they start doing. I don't know i'm just. I'm exasperated right now. I gotta draw my own offense and start my own franchise for jacoby plan trying to think of how the equivalent would be. If you're jacoby perset tattoo in terms of real world related -bility like Maybe like a band that was famous for like a very hot second. You've got the tattoo and then And then they fizzled out like the offspring or smashed mouth or wall smash mouth is still pretty big but you know. Those bands had sustained runs based on pop culture. Knowledge fountains of wayne I would sit sued. Someone a little more. I'll put some thought into it and come back with a When they ask yeah offshoring has eligible has a very devoted fan base. I feel like i feel like it's too big fan movies to be jacoby reset and this point but now i don't know i'll i'll come up with some maybe maybe by the end of the show here Let's see washington goes to atlanta and yell quite possibly steals on this. Is we talk about how disappointing the giants have been this year sitting at one in three at this point even with a nice wednesday i think washington has been mentally disappointing Yet they are sitting here at two and two. This is supposed to be a dominant defensive team. It is it is not. I don't know if you could say it's a good defense at this point. The front four isn't taking over games. The way they did a year ago there are just a lot of coverage issues on the back end and I don't know. I guess i should mention yes. They won the game. So that's that's good. I'm shrugging my shoulders now. If you're not watching on video required some late game heroics from cult. Hero taylor heineke bo. So i think that's a good point gary aid that that was the big thing. The defensive front was the main thing that got them a division title off season and the version that we're seeing this year is just not the same jack del. Rio's the jason garrett of washington and there needs to be some Some repairs made another Another gerry calm idea that we're tossing around right. And you said well you can either do jason garrett or jack del rio in both teams ended up slipping the table winning the games and And we had to really a scrape the bottom of the barrel there. It was Jason garrett's offensively won the game. I mean jacksonville defense. Kind of i guess lease i guess they stop matt ryan in the final three four seconds of this one to to hold on i. That's what you you chalk it up to but yet it's just it's it's problematic and look maybe they maybe they figure it out but i don't know it's just they have two wins. They have a lot of room for improvement. Even that's not that's not the worst place in the world to be right now. All right last one The texans went up to buffalo. And this was. I think this was worse. Even though statistically not as bad i think this game was worse than the browns win over the bears last week. It this just had the vibe of a fairly disinterested like sec power the week that they host like one of the fcs teams like they for some reason. The sec always seen someone who knows college. Football better knows the sec. Always seem to have that weaken november. Where all of them host like some fcs school and they all win like seventy seven like this felt like this except the bills. Were like fairly disinterested for the first quarter and still like it just went up thirty two nothing and end up winning forty nothing right like it was like north carolina. An t was only down by like six at the end of the first quarter. And everybody got super feisty on the sidelines for a minute and then alabama to start running at full speed and then they ended up destroying them but My interesting takeaway from there was like the texans beat somebody this year. Fairly amazing thing to think that like this team beat another. Nfl team this year and You know i mean they handle them handily. It was not a case of like oh they played in a soon nami and like scooped up like three you know special teams fumbles and return them for they just destroyed. Nfl team yeah. I don't know. I maintain that in that week one. It's easy to rally around. Tyrod taylor right. That's true. the guy who's had a lot of chances get ruined by factors out of his control is well liked by teammates. And so i could see a team really buying into that and summoning that energy week. One right like tyrod. Taylor like we can get around this guy and obviously you know he's injured and he's out for a short period of time a a few weeks at least and so. We're seeing a rookie. That isn't exactly prepared to play. I mean i saw a tweet at one point. That brandin cooks had both of the texans completions and this was a point in the game. That was i believe. It was in the second half when he had both completion. Three forty eight eastern time was time of day. So i mean i may be outlined this weekend. I put this game last and lightning round. Because i don't know how much there is to really be gleaned from it. I think my favorite part of texans games is listening to the broadcast chatter and like when the game is within ten. You know they're just like well. You know david collier. He's got these guys play and hard and then you know say what you will about everything but third are working on this thing and that it's like forty nothing and they're just like yeah Houston is a town in texas and And that's about that you know and there's nothing else to say. This is a organization that is you know going through it and it's a roster that's built to sell away for parts and they're playing like it right now all right guys. That's a. that's a wrap for our week. Four show I'm gonna put this out for my jacoby percents Tattoo comp and it is way too. Complimentary i must say dinosaur junior though. Oh wow indy a really good band yeah. I will forever claim magic. Overset is an excellent quarterback. No matter how this plays out wow point you know maybe we could get the shows. Army of of of of fans to just link jacobean gary up. I think it would mean a lot to him and just to be able to connect with jacoby on social media and maybe talk a little bit about how much he appreciates him. An and maybe talk a little bit about dinosaur junior because that is That that's overwhelmingly complimentary. Yeah it is the show and they think. I need to confess that i have never heard of dinosaur junior. See the like. I think it's at it. This is just in my mind. Though i think mix of like it's it's a it's an obscure enough band that i can basically argue Well you know just like people. Don't think jacoby perset isn't good but they just don't realize it they just. They never heard in the way that i did I hope he likes dinosaur junior. It's the only the only thing. I have to talk to him about the qb monday morning. Nfl podcast is jenny. Prentice conroy nba. Gary gramling we produced by shelby royston as executive producer of podcasts. Scott brody thanks as always senior. Podcast rooster. dan bloom the one person we know. Listen to every word of this show every week. Markovic is emeritus editor of the n. Even is the founder of 'em huby. Nfl podcast be sure to subscribe to this. Feed on apple podcasts. And once you do please leave a rating and review because it really does help other people find the show which is also available on spotify stitcher sl dot com and wherever else. This podcast now. That football season's here. It's time to put some serious thought into what you'll be ordering from. Google reads whatever's on your game day. Menu this nfl season ubereats. Has you covered. They'll deliver whatever you order quickly and just how you want so you can stay in the game tonight. I'll be eating ubereats. The official on-demand food delivery partner of the nfl ubereats is bringing you. Game day deals all season order. Now current resin files internet customers. Now's the time to get a great offer on five g. Network you deserve by signing up for verizon wireless with an unlimited plan enroll in mobile home rewards to save up to three hundred sixty dollars a year and combined bills. Only from verizon offer ends nine one twenty-one availability various important purchase sign-up terms apply. Save at the thirty dollars a month with verizon limited advice gigabit connection plants. Twenty dollars a month wireless ten dollars a month off. House bills verizon up enrollment existing upgraded files gigabit connection and unlimited wireless plan acquired five ultra wideband available only in parts of select cities five nationwide available in two thousand seven hundred cities.

cardinals mac jones nfl mack jones verizon cuyler dak prescott todd bowles Tom brady football nfc patriots daniel jones jason garrett nick folk super bowl cowboys hp
NFC North Football Preview: Best Bets, Picks and Predictions

Bet The Board

1:08:00 hr | 2 months ago

NFC North Football Preview: Best Bets, Picks and Predictions

"Along that thou board with bet. Bet you twenty bucks. I can get. You can't look for the end of the year. Only fifteen grand. How they pay debts men his manny. It's the board podcast. Originally the and right back where i started. I could still pick winners. Could still make money for all kinds of people back home and why mess up a good thing. Airs pain insider and toddlers. Welcome in to the the board podcast powered by fan duel sportsbook. I'm your host todd firm and join as always by my steam colleague pain insider and we encourage you to go to fan duel dot com slash. The board take advantage of all the generous sign up bonuses their new users up to a two thousand dollar free bet but the preseason bet major league baseball that the nfl regular season fan duel. Has you covered this upcoming football season and pain. It didn't take us long in twenty twenty one to get our first best bet winner this season. Remember that yes. We keep track of these things around here. We don't just sweep them under the rug windsor losses. I know it was a unexpected quarterback. That was not supposed to play that showed up but fortunately he didn't have much to offer after just two or three days of camp. That was an interesting story because we didn't think callum on was going to play. The actual vikings team site reported at seven. Pm on the twelfth that it was unlikely he was gonna apply. No one who is going to play. Except mike zimmer who threw him in there and played them almost three quarters after jake browning threw up all over himself so it was a good start to the season getting that out of the way we kind of talked about this a little bit past the the wind right like that's what everyone wants. Everyone wants to win a game. We gave out a pick close three. And i think that's really the important part of this when you're trying to figure out information to follow because there's never going to be a long enough sample size of anyone your tailing for singular season if you're listening to him on the radio or podcast or video. Wherever you're consuming your. You're gambling information. There's never going to be a long enough sample size. So how do you judge in a small sample size in. It's like are you beating the closing. Are you listening to information that might pop or break days after that information comes out and i think that's the interesting part about this podcast because last year i'll be candidate off top of my head. I was looking at the sheet earlier. And i think we released forty six best bets. Last year we won a third of a position for the entire season. It was our worst season today. But of those forty six best bets only to move against us and one was covert related. Every other game moved in our favor so while it was our worst season it was one still profitable in to the thing. You're looking for over short sample sizes. We crushed the closing line. Virtually every single time. Hey that's the name of the game in this business is trying to take advantage like you said at the information. That's out there getting your money and good and hoping for the best when you put yourself in that advantageous position. I know there were a bunch of preseason moves over the weekend of course. Denver gets there with relative ease in that commanding thirty three to six victory. Who did personally the seven point move. Which was i mean together. I was gonna say. I was going to be honest there. That what Uh cutting jacksonville plus three having a game taken off the board move four and a half points after repeated even closing i saw upwards four seventy move yeah it was fortunate that you were at the raider game and you did not get to see urban. Meyer's offense and all it's glory. I think i watched one series when i was waiting in line for a beer. During the raiders. pre-game. No i'm going to try and Focus on the game at hand. The nathan peterman experience. Let me tell you is a religious revival watching them go out there and take every step snap for full four quarters but at the same time yes. I'm glad i didn't watch that. I do have it on the docket to go back. And see what i missed between the jags and browns but alas we're not able to cash that contest. Where do we stand up day. Wise last check over the weekend. I saw north of six hundred sign ups Do you want to give folks the details there and how they can get involved yet. Our annual pick five. Nfl contest is back. This is year five six thousand dollar prize pool weekly winners as well up bet the board contests dot com one hundred percent free to join pick five games each week and there you have it. That's very simple. There will be a link in the description of this podcast. So take your right there. I was funny. I was at a barbecue yesterday afternoon. One of our friends going away parties in a couple of the guys there in the poker community. Hey you guys put on quite the free role there. I said yeah as long as you guys. Don't bail after three weeks. I want to stay in the contest for the full eighteen week regular season. He can win some swag this time around. It's really interesting because we have a great turnout every year and the winners seemed to do as well. If not better than some of the competitions in vegas so one it's a free roles you'd be joining anyways but if you can't make it out to vegas or you don't have the funds to join a pool out west. This is the alternative option and it's free to join the board contest dot com exactly. That's the name of the game we know everyone has different bankroll constraints out there. This one you can do from the confines if your home doesn't require a proxy doesn't require trip out here to the desert i put your money where your mouth is. Best part is you don't have to put up money. You can still take home. All sorts of cash and prizes did want to ask you pain before we get into the nfc north. And i'm sure bear fans are on the edge of their seat waiting to hear what i have to say about justin fields. Did you see anything week. One of the preseason that you caught by surprise or anything else along those lines you watch a lot of the games in real time before you'll go back and review ton of footage as well once we get off the show today not really. I think the one thing that stood out to me is with this. Change in preseason schedule. The philosophies have been wildly different. Some teams are playing their starters up to a full quarter more other teams like mcveigh. He's standing by. I'm not playing my quarterback in preseason game ever so a lot of the strategies are interesting. And i believe i can't remember who posted it. Basically the last three super bowl winners had played some level of their starters. And then you had. Someone like mike zimmer bitching and moaning in any chance he could this past week about how pours team played yet he benched twenty one of twenty two potential starter so that was the one thing that was really interesting. I thought there might be a little more uniformity in terms of hey new preseason schedule just three games teams are going to have a little bit of a same style of approach but it was just drastically different across the board. I will say one thing. That's funny watching the entire first. Half of that. Vikings broncos game the increase in credulity of the vikings announcers who drew lock was out for one series. But to call my god jerry. Judy still in the field. I'm sitting there laughing going. Yes this is. What the broncos. We're going to do but the vikings announcers almost angry that the broncos were playing their starters like it was a little league game and hey look we've pulled our guys you have to play your guys as well. We're out here to see one team. Get manhandled the is that a five or six syllable word there that you just broke out on a monday morning after claiming you are a little under the weather. I'm going to have to check it out in krige you. I think it's five if i count only run on a fingers on one hand. Yeah you're right. It's five the state of being unwilling or unable to believe something. There you go for listeners. At home todd broke out a seven dollar word on a monday morning. We we may have some folks out there who are studying for college place in exams and all that. We don't encourage underage gambling but the reality of it is. There could be a todd firm and or pain insider at sixteen years of age tuning in so we can make them smarter not just raise their football iq but also their act and sat scores. That were doing. The lord's work around these parts. I did notice and you sent me a clip and we'll just kind of keep it at that but in terms of gambling or becoming professional bettors. It was interesting to hear something that i had been talking about for the last like three or four years. If you're getting into this business don't and there was a video this week. That surface of a well respected better. Kind of saying the same thing that made its way across which is interesting so practice those big words for your sat's and all your tests and all that and gambling probably isn't the the environment to join right now with how stands. It is a much different space than when you and i both entered it years ago. And we'll see might be the understatement of the podcast maybe in the history of this particular show but we'll see the evolution and how things continue to go again more fuel for the end of the season. Podcast when we may lay it all out there kind of like the rose tell all type situation for those folks that watch the bachelor all right. Let's get into the games or the teams. I should say themselves and we'll start as we've done through the first three pocket entourage you here because after a nine minute intro in which we didn't talk about a singular game you concluded with a bachelor reference. If anyone was still listening you just sent them for the exit. Well i mean. I did mean. I probably shouldn't divulge us on air. So so i won't so we'll leave that on the side. I actually haven't watched that show. Probably in like i want to say four or five years. It's probably since. I got into it but mazing still creates content on social media but no it is not in my regular rotation by any stretch the immagination the chicago bears will be in your regular rotation of viewing sunday's this week or this. We'll find out. i'm not sure. Bears fans are gonna want to roll out the red carpet after the response on saturday but when we look at the bears they're five to one underdogs to win the nfc. North fan duel sportsbook. You look at their win. Total it's seven and a half shaded to the under minus a dollar twenty credit to some fox colleagues who found nugget here and i understand why bears are so sensitive. When you take shots at their starting quarterbacks the pain the last bears quarterback that was named first team. All pro happened back in. Nineteen fifty was a quarterback by the name of johnny logic. So when you take shots at justin fields who is supposed to be this great revelation and completely innovate the quarterback position. I understand the increased sensitivity. There this was a bear team last year. Start out hot five and one finish three and seven down the stretch but did find a way to back into the postseason. They finished to five hundred or worse. In seven of the last eight seasons but to matinees credit they have reached the postseason in two of three seasons. Where he's been at the helm when you look at the team's offensive identity. They've really lacked one. Two bit problematic. When that's in your head coaches dna and maybe more so forbears fans. They're just one and nine. The last ten games with the packers but as you begin to breakdown. This bear semi feel fields provides a logical starting point. Everyone wanted to join him that next great chicago bear. I had to throw a little bit of water on that fire going. You know what quarterback actually performed better in his preseason debut mitchell trubisky the man they jettison the buffalo and didn't pick up his option for fifth year. It's really an interesting off season in the sense. That if you're on social media the clicks the buzz the re tweets the favourite seemed to be coming from anointing all these young quarterbacks as the next great thing i mean trey lance threw touchdown pass on. Was it as i throw. Second throw. yeah you didn't hear anything about the five for fourteen point chin rate the rest of the way. It was just that one. We all know he's talented right and we all know. Justin field has talent and he's probably provides the bears a spark and certainly it's the quarterback that will allow them to have a little bit more variants. But at this point to me the bear success offensively comes down to matinee. And what is that guy. Because to this point he's been nothing more than a byproduct of andy reid success. He's not someone that's been able to stand on his own merits every single year. The bears offense has regressed and are nagging. And you start to look. At some of these numbers they're staggering. Started in two thousand eighteen with the twentieth. Most efficient offense dropped to twenty fifth and two thousand nineteen. And then. if you remember todd a game we broke down. I believe it was a thursday night game so it was on one of our thursday podcasts. It was vikings bears and he gave up playcalling duties to bill laser. Oh the monday night or a monday night or okay. So is money. Because i think bears played the bucks last year thursday night game. That's right. I'm reserve your spot on. And so he basically told bill as or like on a thursday or friday like hey. You're you're going to call the police for the monday night. Game and at the point nagy gave up play calling duties last year. Chicago's twenty than offense efficiency. This year for for nagy so unless she struck the lotto with justin fields. Nagy's out of a job at some point before next season. Now he came out early this off season. It was like taken back. Play calling duties again so he's not going to die in somebody else's word it's going to be on his own his own merit if if he doesn't survive this but i can tell you it seems like chicago's content trotting out this nagging dalton combination at least at the beginning part of the season. And that's probably not a good combination because it's a coach that hasn't produced an above average rate offensively. Three years and the offense is gonna be ran by thirty four year old quarterback. That wasn't good enough for the bengals organization right and produced last season. Seventeen percent below average quarterback. You can see why the bears win. Total has dropped a little bit now. Whoever starting under center whether it's dalton or fields or both of them at some point the season nagy's got to figure things out man. We talk about this all the time making the quarterbacks job easier throw on first down use heavy formations a little bit more right. There's no reason when you look at the makeup of the bears roster and their offense of construction that these things aren't happening in three years under nagy the bears aligns finished with an average ranking of twenty-seventh in line yards the o. Line gun zero. Push right nothing. And if you're a bears faneuil was pretty true like we can't move anybody and yet nagy's fifty one percent run on first downs through the first three quarters last year and you look at the production on those first down runs the first records. Chicago's twenty-third and success. Rate but passes over that same stretch. Chicago's sixth in successor. A sixteen percent increase in production when nagy dial up passing. I down the first three quarters. He runs it more than throws it with a horrific blocking it makes no sense. I think we joked about last. Offseason taught about ryan pace picking up every tight end known to mankind. Think dad like tight ends on the roster at one point but nagy us two tight end sets nineteen percent of the time he lived in three wide sets and when the bears trotted out. Three wide sets their efficiency was seven percent below an average offense with two tight end sets. Chicago's five percent above average and yet despite the roster construction and despite the production nagy didn't do it was good for the offense so you know you had this. Gm just load the roster with tight ends and it just wasn't ever used nagy's like i do my own thing so it's really interesting to see what the offense looks like this year. The schedule difficulty increases. Big time. Bears off goes from facing a bottom five schedule of defenses last year to an average schedule this year. The improvements made to the o. Line in the off-season haven't quite come to fruition. Yet kevin jenkins thirty nine th pick from oklahoma state hasn't practice shut due to back injury the same injury that nagged amon college. He is your projected left tackle. Germania fatty the projected. Starting right tackle is also outright. Now james daniels to starting right guardsmen missing in action. These guys need to get back and start building. Some continuity of that line's going to improve. I don't like the bears. Offense put in saying that and kind of going back to justin fields. I think there's some variants which can equate to positively if justin feels looks like a first round quarterback than stock up. You know but fields hasn't been looking great through camp. Maybe he's a gamer. But there's a lot of what i've been hearing is. He's not throwing with anticipation that was a little bit of his weakness at ohio state. He's not seeing everything you know. There's there's young guys on the online if they can't gel that'll be trouble but they might be able to improve as time goes on. You know you had a disappointing year from coal comment as a rookie. But he's got a lot of upside. There's weapons there that are interesting. I have a man crush on robinson. He's just been able to dominate at basically every level of the route. Trie darnell mooney has an elite trait with his speed. So there is hope and i think eventually if not early. It's tough opener right. Throwing justin fields into that but after a couple of weeks i think he does at least provide an ability with his legs. Tilles change some of the looks. You're gonna see defensively in in at least provide some hope. Because i think if you say ham trotting out andy dalton there and let me know what you think on this and we start the season. Oh and four mayonnaise gonna have a tough time keeping his job but if you start justin fields and there is some element of hope and even if you win eight or nine games but it looks like you have your franchise quarterback than the gm and coach might be able to save themselves for another season. I think it's an interesting conundrum. Because i can see it both ways that if nagy and pace go hey look. We want to wait on justin fields. We don't want to throw them to the wolves you can kind of sugarcoat potentially slow. Start but the issue for the bear schedules. You try and figure out okay. Fields playing opening night in prime time against the rams aaron donald not quite sure that's the best recipe for success. Do you run them back week to. I don't know if that's quite when you wanna do it where you have. Andy dalton type. Revenge scenario playing against his former team in the bengals week. Three you go to cleveland. And then you have back to back games which might provide a logical landing spot if you wanted to give fields a chance to work against in fear defenses in the detroit lions and then at las vegas in early october. The problem for their pain. They go through five week stretch. After which is going to test any quarterback metal which include games against green bay at tampa bay home against san francisco at pittsburgh on monday night and yet we get a bye week inserted in there before the baltimore. Ravens come to town so it's not as like there's a huge logical window to get fields out there so i think it's going to be fascinating to try and watch how quick hook that they're going to have on andy dalton early on at some point just have to rip the band aid off. You probably are looking at that. Range of having the two cupcake defenses and hoping that he's able to mature enough when the schedule gets a little bit more difficult. But this is one of the league's most difficult schedules share when you look at it from a win. Totals perspective now. I want to dig into justin fields a little bit more because you know the first two drives. He enters the game against the dolphins and he's backed up in his own end. And that's going to change playcalling dramatically but then a lot of his success was predicated on playing third and fourth team defenders. Now he looked very good. But i hope is able to hit a wide open tight end. Streaking down the left hash and when we talk about preseason games todd we start to look at some of the backup. Quarterbacks like do these guys have legs because that's a big advantage if they do in a preseason game when you're just trying to manufacture offense in the third and fourth quarters in these preseason games so what was noticeable when you talk about just a starting perspective. The dolphins talent was far superior to what chicago had so much so that even though too was picked off in the end zone he was moving the ball over without four of his top five weapons. And i think that'll be the other interesting element to this. Bears team is does the defense. Take another step back. Well it's a great question. I mean personnel remains largely the same for the bears. You lose kyle fuller and desmond true font hopefully to fortify that secondary but when you look at the bears you know three years ago. We talked about it. There was a team that lived on forcing turnovers. They created short fields for their offense. And you knew. Regression was coming from that side of the ball. The reality of it is the bears last year. Were amongst one of the best teams in the entire. Nfl as far as red defenses concern holding opponents that touchdowns on a shade less than fifty five percent of their opportunities but overall they had the nfl's fourteenth ring scoring defense. They gave more than twenty three points per game after ranking top ten in each of the previous three seasons and you've seen their takeaway numbers really subside thirty seven two seasons compared to thirty six and just two thousand eighteen alone now they do get eddie goldman backed up clogged middle roquan. Smith is turned into more of a force as far as the linebackers are concerned. And you started to see what bill nichols could provide in the absence of eddie goldman akiem hicks pushing for an extension. We'll see how much he can stay on the field for but robert quinn paint. I have to imagine there are a lot of bears fans and folks sitting in the front office going. Wait we committed. How much of this guy and we got. What level of productivity hard to believe this bears defense can go anywhere but down. It's really interesting. Because i do like the pedigree of their new. Dc sean guy. He's been with chicago since two thousand thirteen. He's climbed his way up. The ladder constantly praises vic fangio. Any chance he gets in calls him his mentor and decides alluded to the fact that he's not going to change much. It's all about tuning up in refining. Because he likes the fangio scheme. Would i would expect more disguising coverages because chuck pagano was very predictable and vanillin secondary last year. I think this defense will look more like fangio from coverage scheme perspective. Where they're gonna show the quarterback something pre snapped and roll into coverage. They actually want to be in post nap. If you've paid close attention and you hit this perfectly chicago stevens. Last few seasons have had these incremental downgrades as players in the system get older or some cap casualties that force guys outta town or there's regression in some of the turnover metrics that you mentioned and then you also had a downgrading in dc's. It's so much tougher. I think to the naked eye identifying an elite defense regressing to good then a good defense dipping all the way to bad so we haven't really seen it at the national level. That chicago's defense has been regressing. Everyone's still thinks it's like this elite defense but if you're looking metrically and really digging into these things pressure rates have dipped substantially right two thousand eighteen defense with fangio at a twenty-seven-year-old khalil. Mack registered a thirty three percent pressure. Rate is a team that year fangio leaves in two thousand nineteen. Chicago's pressuring dips to twenty nine percent. And then last year under pagano dipped again to twenty three percent. The lower eight impacts the secondary so coverage has regressed as well going back to eighteen with fangio. The bears were number one in defense pass efficiency. Two thousand nineteen. It fell to eleventh and last year thirteenth so again from the surface when you look at chicago and the parts of the field where they got torched it would appear to me it scheme driven or lack of depth and. I think that kind of goes into what we've talked about right like the coaching has gone down the departing of some players. Bees if you really look the bears did a good job. Defending opposing teams number one and two receivers but the rest of the defense in coverage got picked on the bears. Were dead last defensive. Pass efficiency defending any other receiver. That wasn't a first. Or second option. And i think that's probably the biggest question mark this season as well. You hope sean. Decide does mimic fangio's coverage games in that helps but jalen johnson. That's going to be your horse. And i think he's got potential any performed really well as a rookie showed he was willing to play lots of pressman coverage but if he's your number one there's some questions there especially he's coming off his third shoulder surgery. eddie jackson. one of the league's best safeties. Let's see if he can return to form tashaun. Gipson had a solid year. But i think the biggest question by far is cornerback to you mentioned kyle fuller leaving. He went and rejoined vic fangio denver. They brought in desmond true font. He hasn't been able to stay. Healthy already burns also on the roster. Kenny be serviceable. I don't know but he's also coming back from injury. All the rave seems to be about this young kid kindle ville door ease right now. I think the leader in the clubhouse for the number two job he's a high end two star recruit. that was a fifth round. Pick from georgia. Southern last year gave sixteen catches on twenty-one targets two of which were touchdowns in a lot of one twenty four passer rating doesn't mean vilvorde can't grow but that's not the prototypical traits starting corner the nfl. Let's see what comes of that. But what i do know is the bears defense. Plays a top five schedule of offenses this season. Eight top five schedule of passing in pass blocking offenses and the most difficult runs schedule. And so when you mentioned akeem. Knicks hicks kind of Holding out a little bit wanting a new contract if his agents smart. He's probably going to bring that up and tell the organizational. You need me looking at the schedule. The quarterbacks chicago faces a scary bruin. Daniel jones project to be the worst on the entire schedule. But you see aaron rodgers twice. Get brady stafford cousins twice. Ross car lamar. Cuyler big ben and you have the ascending baker mayfield. That brown's offense. There's not many quarterbacks on the schedule where you say like yeah. We're gonna be able to overwhelm those guys. So unless deci is is basically fangio junior and khalil. Mack returns to two thousand eighteen form in robert quinn. Who you mentioned. I cannot believe that contract. I think we talked about it and joked about it last year unless he returns to his two thousand nineteen form in the secondary stays healthy and danny trevathan can figure out how to not be the worst cover linebacker in the league. I think we probably see another defensive. Dip your todd going to be an interesting team to watch. I know it's not a popular opinion when you talk about bears fans because they have a loyal fan base that lives and dies with this team. So it's always interesting to kind of gauge sentiment. See where the level of optimism may or may not be and of course it all stems from them trading up to their credit to try and get a quarterback that they think in revolutionize their franchise i do in the back of my mind have to wonder how much of that was predicated on passing on some of the elite quarterbacks. We've seen in the national football league now knowing the increased pressure. They're living with that. Mitchell trubisky decision. Here's what about this kind of from a betting perspective and a team perspective if you are a bears fan when you look at the wind. Total of seven and a half. It doesn't provide a lot of optimism but the team does in my mind have a ton of them because if justin borough Justin fields is the real deal. And sean desai is vic fangio then you might see value in taking some of the shot props right make the playoffs. At plus two fifty rather than going over the win total Making the wildcard at six to want something along those lines where you're kind of projecting a team with a ton of various if they suck they suck so be it but the good might be good if justin fields is elite. And it could be really good if the defense stays healthy and kind of gets back to form. So it's it's a team with a ton of guarantee if you told me they won four games or you told me they won ten. I probably wouldn't be shocked. It's a great point and part of the way you go about looking at these betting markets take advantage of all the options that are available to you. If you believe that the bears are going to be able to do something special. Trust me pain. I'm sure there are plenty of folks out there clamoring nabet field so in rookie of the year as well at an eight to one price. Tag a team that my opinion doesn't have a high ceiling and it may not have that high of floor would be one of the other members of the nfc north. Of course the detroit. Lions who find themselves nineteen ninety-one underdogs at fan duel sportsbook to win the division. Their win total sits at five shaded under minus dollar twenty. When you look at this lions franchise. I don't need to go through the laundry list of underachievement last won a playoff game in nineteen ninety one twenty seven years since they won the division face a top five schedule of opposing offenses or overall difficulty. I should say. And if it's not a harbinger of things to come you always have to love it when a team fires your head trainer just hours before your preseason game against the buffalo bills paying i think when you talk about the detroit lions the most logical place to start. Maybe even conclude is with the coaching staff. Dave assembled not just dan campbell but everywhere else underneath him in for the listeners. We wanted to approach the lines differently. Because this season there's only gonna be varying degrees of bad as you mentioned the win. Totals five a good. Bit of pro money is on the under. Its why you're seeing a couple of four and a half start to emerge the market. Detroit is like one team throughout our entire preview series where todd and we kind of talked strategy on how to go about breaking down the lines. And it's because there's this complete regime change in scheme shift on both sides of the ball on different quarterback under center talking about last year is kind of irrelevant and i think we want to speak more to the big picture about dan campbell in the staff and really the lions organization in general. And i'll start by saying this. It's not gonna be pretty. But dan campbell. Was the lines first choice. There was another campbell. Matt campbell from iowa state and i think your colleague todd at cbs. Dennis dodd broke this story. That matt campbell turned down. Almost seventy million to be the lions coach. The organs dame's iowa nonetheless the organization is that bad. And we've seen it over time right. you force. These elite hall of famers in their primes to retire early in barry sanders and matron at it. Really tells you all you need to know but incomes campbell. And there's a lot of guys in this league that will sing his praises. Sean payton's one campbell. Always seems to be placed higher within the list of head coaches than coordinators. He's either. Benny tight ends coach or an interim head coach and occasionally he'll get tagged with assistant head coach even though he's a day to day tight ends coach. He's never called plays at this level on either side effectively right. So you've got a ceo really and his job as a ceo's bring in smart people and just managed the team. He's not my style of coach. I've dealt with him down here in miami for multiple seasons and he held the interim job in fifteen. I believe it was when philbin got fired. He's this raga right pound the table. We're going to be more physical than the other team type coach not really strategic or xs knows driven. Doesn't seem to be into analytics. You heard his opening presser and he's talking about chew in the leg off the other team. It's very bizarre. Now miami won. Its first two games under campbell with the interim tag and then the row row were off. They went three and seven down the stretch. And i just wonder how long that approach can work. When you're losing lots of games you look at the staff. He's put together really interesting. I mean you hire anthony. Lynn as as your offensive coordinator former running backs coach. Lynn was Interim head coach slash. Oc in buffalo in two thousand sixteen and he had the most run heavy offense in the lake and then in nineteen and twenty he was with the chargers and they lost twenty regular season games and the offense basically had a governor on it. And you start to look at this preseason game and you don't want to take too much from it but dan. Campbell claimed lines retreating it like the super bowl. Any play starters for a full quarter and you're trying to implement these new systems so you're trying to do things that would help you for the regular season i would think and somehow anthony. Lynn ran on fifty two percent of first downs and a game. They never let him for fifty eight and a half minutes. So and then he goes in botch is the end game situation. Offensively on the go ahead dr. Because he couldn't manage a clock. And so i i. There's a lot of questions from a coaching perspective. And then you move past that you look the rest of the hires. Anthony lennon dan campbell said. Hey we're not gonna hire someone that maybe has a little bit different mindset to hear other ideas now we're gonna hire do staley another running back and running backs coach and he played in philly for seven years. He coached in philly for ten years was running backs coach for the last eight and they never moved past running back coach despite interviewing for the oc job multiple times they basically to appease one of their own. They gave him this foreign title of assistant head coach but the bottom line is do staley made a lateral move after eight years to a lesser organization. Does that tell you what he is. And i completely understand when you look the makeup of this roster and you look at of the construction of it the oh lines probably the best position group on on this on the detroit lions roster and then you have maybe the most talented offensive weapon is. You're running back and swift. But if you think. Jared goff in a year where he's trying to regain his confidence is going to be the guy to bail you out on third and long all season you know comment and then defensively like who did he hire. Aaron glenn and i think you and i are being both eighties babies. You're gonna remember. Glenn is this just defensive back with the oversized jersey and the extra long towel. But i mean he's been the saints. Db coach for the last five seasons. And you can certainly give him credit. For part of the defensive rebuild. Although i think that goes mostly dennis allen but what's interesting over the last few seasons as you could pinpoint the area of the defense and hell that you know the saints entire team where the weakest link was in. It seemed to be the secondary they're constantly trying to add little parts. Like janoris jenkins and malcolm jenkins and there. Is this constant retooling in the secondary. Aaron glenn coach marshon lattimore directly very hands on and marshon. Lattimore has regressed every single season. He's been in the league as a rookie. He played a pro level lockdown type corner. he's regressed in. The second season was above average in nineteen. Last year he was a below average corner. All on aaron glenn's watch and so the lions are going to have to navigate this season. And you mentioned this perfectly plain one of the very best schedules offenses and you're looking at the overall strength of schedule. According to windows alliance the seventh most difficult schedule. I will end it on this time. Because i want. Go glass half full here before we turn every detroit lions fan away from listening to this podcast forever. They're only seven of them. Out of all seven happened to be listening to the podcast. We appreciate you guys being loyal subscribers about the board. If you look ahead to twenty twenty two and beyond it least dan campbell in the staff are going to have the opportunity to turn this around. They're going to be able to die on their own sport. They're going to have a say because cap wise detroit has above average money to spend in twenty twenty two in an increase even more if they can somehow get jared goff off the books and if you look at current day draft capital and assign value to each pick every organization has the lions have the most draft capital as. We speak right now going to be interesting. It's a team who clearly hasn't quite hit rock bottom just yet. And they've hit rock bottom a number of times over the last decade or so. We'll see exactly what the first trip around the league. Looks like for dan. Campbell as headman of alliance that needs to figure out it's offensive identity to execute and defensively a team that gave up thirty plus points in six straight games to close out last year. Allowed forty or more in five games a season. We'll see how things look in the motor city this year from detroit to northern wisconsin. We go with the green bay packers and you look at green bay there. A modest dollar forty fi favorite at fan duel sportsbook to win the division. You look at their win. Total it sits at ten and a half she added to the over. You have to lay a book twenty. They're actually the first team. Pain lose in the nfc title and back to back years since the philadelphia eagles did it back in two thousand two and two thousand three. You look at green bay success under the floor. A lot of that's been attributed to dominating in their own division where they've gone eleven one fourteen and to lambofield over the last two seasons. We know how important is to hold. Serve in your own building and the floors twenty-six wins place in behind. Only george siefert for total wins in your first two seasons at his. Nfl head coach. Naturally the big story line here. All off season was around. Aaron rodgers willie or won't he be the starting quarterback he of course we'll be back under center there but one has to ask what we see the aaron rodgers that we saw in twenty twenty that led him to an mvp caliber season. Or we see the guy twenty nineteen that a lot of folks road off not just in gambling circles but the fantasy world is well. This feels like we've hit the part of the show that comes up every season todd. It's the how good is green bay really segment and the fan base. That hates me too. So don't feel don't worry about. The bears fans are balkan. Can have to take a number behind green bay. Because i've called green bay overrated and overvalued each of the last year's couple years so in we talked about that regression happening last year and we were dead wrong. Fortunately oddsmaker saved our ass because they made the win. Total so low green bay's regression was already factored into the number and then some and price is the ultimate determinant for an investment. So we were able to be wrong in our opinion but we didn't lose any money. Then you have nowhere. Aaron rodgers just best season ever you know his two thousand nineteen season in the floor system like he finished twentieth in total. Qbr last year. Andre just went nuclear third-highest qbr for quarterback all time and we saw complete buying for madras. He was willing to believe before system. He even claimed that he spent time during lockdowns looking at every. Nfl throw he ever made a notice some bad habits that he wanted to fix. And when you get someone as talented as rogers is to play within a good system great things can happen. And if you look at time to throw metrics. Rogers had his quickest release time in over a decade which meant he was willing to play within the system and not improvise and try to do it all on his own and i think the big question heading into this year is will there be the buy in from rogers again. And how far will he regrets personally because he just went so nuclear last year that like even if he has a good season. It's impossible to replicate twenty twenty and you start to look at some of the makeup of the team the o. Line lost a few key cox. And then on top of those. You know question marks with rogers buying and the line regressing and him personally coming down to life just a little bit. You look at the schedule. Green bay gonna face. It's the largest difficulty swing year-over-year so those are some of the questions for me. Now matt leflore came out spoke to the media last week and he said aaron rodgers came into camp with a zen vibe about him and leflore got aaron rodgers to break the team down after the first day of camp and apparently rogers delivered a pretty great speech about buying and commitment and living in the moment and accomplishing goals this year. And that's great. It kind of confirms that rodgers will be a professional and that all the question marks we might have about his rift with the gm in the organization isn't going to be a factor but again he can't replicate last season. Especially when you look at the schedule. Green bay projects to face a schedule defenses top five overall and against the past top five against the run and on third downs last year. The schedule in those categories were some of the worst in the late. And now you're looking at this offensive line. And you'll lose your alward world. Senator corey lindsey green bail out rick wagner their starting right tackle. The walk david bahktiar returns. Thirty in september is coming off. Acl tear which doctors haven't cleared him from it and the talk is that he's not going to be ready for week one. So basically what's happened is jenkins is being cross trained at left tackle when you put it all together. You've effectively downgraded all five positions along the align early in the season because again lynn's lane wagner gone and then you're forcing your guards like jenkins and turner to play out of position tackle spots where they're not as good so you've downgraded all five positions along the line as it stands right now. Let's see when bahktiar returns but was really odd. Here's you're looking at a market price of ten point. Three wins basically. That's that's the average across market in you've added a game to the schedule and oddsmakers are really only pricing green bay about half a win better from this time last season where we thought they were projecting a ton of progression which means like relatively speaking oddsmakers are down on green bay again when you look the team. That's one i think. Like twenty six and six in the regular season the last two years so it's really an interesting team from that perspective it's like the market. Even when you see a team at ten wins. It still says there's not a lot of buying here from from gamblers and from tim oddsmakers. It's a fascinating. Look the way you try. And parse out how some of these numbers suggest what a realistic outlook for the season. Now you did see the green bay packers division price ping pong all over the place amid speculation. That rogers wasn't going to be the guy. I saw some shops open as low as minus a dollar thirty five. It did take some money in green bay driving it up in a dollar sixty seven reach but but also have to say one caveat too and of course what fan do liability looks like. I don't know what anybody other other shops do. You have to try and elicit attracts in green bay money if you were taking money on the minnesota vikings at prices of plus fifty plus two sixty when everyone thought there was a realistic chance. That rogers wasn't going to be the guy. Yeah absolutely you do have to make that adjustment you do have to change. The look of your book in terms of what type of money are taking in. And i will say this aside from the align. The weapons have improved here. You know robert tania's twenty seventies in his prime. He's only going to be better devante atoms. We know what he is. He was number one in the. Nfl averaged almost three yards per route. Run allen lazard is going to have a better season because he's injured in camp last year and then came back and had the major core injury and he wasn't himself valdis gatling flashed at times. He just needs to be a little bit more consistent. You went out and got amari rogers in the third round. Aj dylan looks like he's transformed his body a little bit. So the weapons around. Aaron rodgers have improved right. They brought in randall. Cobb that's his old buddy. So the weapons have improved a little bit. The question becomes. How far is the dip from rogers. And what is the offensive line. Look like those. Those are the two big questions protection. Always been concerned. It's one of the units typically gets overlooked in this fantasy frenzied market. That we're in where people get wowed by skill position talent above all else when you look at green bay on the defensive side of the ball they go out in the draft and bringing eric stokes their first round pick very talented corner of georgia. You do lose christian kirksey from your linebacking core and when you look green bay defensively only the rams seahawks are actually better down the stretch last year than this packer. Stop there. inc. Top ten in the league in yards per game they were. They were nine passing yards per game. They were seventh red zone. Defense eighth but the problem for me pain they only had eighteen takeaways. This sack numbers weren't exactly great by any stretch of the imagination. Now they did hold opposing. Quarterbacks to a ninety-one passer rating but while they were tenth in sex they only twenty eighth and pressure rate and typically. We know those metrics go hand in hand where you can defy the odds one season. But if that pressure rate isn't there it's gonna leave a lot more room for regression despite green bay having one of the more talented and still in my opinion underrated secondaries in the entire league. And you're going to have a scheme shift this year. Because you have a new dc in joe berry who was under sean mcvay in los angeles when matt leflore. Was there in two thousand seventeen so those two guys are close. That's why he was hired. Joe berry's bennett. Defensive coordinator two other times in two thousand seven and eight with the lions then again in fifteen and sixteen with washington. There was an improvement to either of those defenses under barrett. If we are keeping things fair though berry was part of. The rams defensive resurgence in two thousand seventeen and then last year he was brandon. Staley's right hand man in la. Let's see if the third time's a charm doing it on his own. The philosophy is going to change because last year. Mike patton dime defense on fifty percent of snaps. Six defensive backs is that formation. Okay on the field that once league average was around. Thirteen percent patent used the least amount of nickel which is five defensive backs and just based on joe berry and brennan's daily what they did in l. a. last year expect nickel defense to be the packers base. This season. aaron rodgers came out this week and said he hasn't seen defense like this in practice. Far more disguise in coverages allen lazard mimic that. And basically you have to really think react post nap. Mortified open areas to sit down and based on these different coverage. Looks will say the packers secondary is going to improve. And i think you hit that perfectly. I think two reasons. You're looking at the schedule. Difficulty of passing offense as both down to down and in explosiveness. That's going to decrease your over here so a softer projected schedule. And the other reasons. Eric stokes you know the first rounder out of georgia. He's apparently the real deal. If you look at where. The packers secondary struggled last year. It was defending opposing. Team's second receivers. You're always going to be fine on the side of the field. Where alexander's locking down. But kevin king is barely serviceable starter number. Two wideouts put up the ninth most production against the packers last yourself. Stokes can come in and contribute early. That's gonna be huge boost. Savage is an absolute monster. Back there at safety. I think we also have to pay close attention to the packers front seven. There are some question marks there huge regression last season from that area smith. He dropped a fifty second pressuring after finishing third the year prior. He's been out all camp nursing a back injury. Kenny clark and rashawn. Gary have to get back as well. They've both been battling through some early season injuries. But for two years now the packers defense basically survived on getting to the quarterback and jal alexander basically removing the number one receiver from the game. And you mentioned this perfectly. It's that the packers team pressure rate dipped to twenty seventh and their pass rush win rate dropped to twentieth. And that's important because it seems like green bay has this massive dichotomy in performance when getting pressure versus when they're not and obviously right like defense do better when they get pressure. I'm not splitting the atom here saying this but effectively. The packers had the largest swing in defensive production in the entire league when looking at pressure versus no pressure. Green bay was dominant when they got pressure but slightly below average. When they weren't so zaveri. Smith needs to get healthy rashawn. Gary needs to continue making strides. We saw his production improve season ago. I think joe berry would be smart if he got preston smith more in the mix. The poor guy was dropped uncovered so much last season. He didn't really have a chance to get after the quarterback. But i think green bay has the opportunity to perform an above average rate. This season defensively barring injury to smith or kenny clarke so tiny stock aero up for this unit. Green bay is a fascinating team. I mean i've been critical about their level of physicality and inability to stop the run. But i don't mean to be a full blown detractor here. We'll see how they perform relative to the market and get a great indication gray out of the gates when they go into a hostile superdome road favorites to see what aaron rodgers looks like along with. This particular stop unit against an unsettled quarterback situation in new orleans. It's really injuries last dot todd. Though and if joe berry mimics brandon staley brands daily is from the analytics mindset. He basically dares you to run the ball. He wants you to run the ball. So that's that's always the interesting debate. Is you know knowing that. Running is less efficient. Dj china let guys pick up to three yards on first down bait them into making it a shorter third-down distance and then try to live getting teams off the field on third and that seemed to be the approach that brennan's daily took last year. And so let's see if joe berry kind of mimics that philosophy in in two thousand twenty one. Yeah the one difference being. There's a man in los angeles that allows you to disrupt the interior pressure. Aaron donald that. I don't think the packers have on their roster so we'll see how all those things play out but last but certainly not least in the nfc north discussion the minnesota vikings. This is a team who sees their odds to win the division. At plus two fiftieth fan duel. Sportsbook the win. Total eight and a half. I'll lay a dollar sixty to go over that particular number when you look at twenty twenty. Hey look it was. The first losing record to coach zimmer's produced. Since he was at the controls back in two thousand fourteen. The schedule starts relatively favorably for the vikings at least on paper. And when you look at minnesota this team clearly bottomed out last season on the defensive side of the ball season but arguably their single worst performance was when you gave up fifty two against the new orleans. Saints and alvin kamara found the end zone. What i think it was six times in that. Particular game no zimmer. We talked about it in the top of the show. Didn't play thirty starters in the preseason opener. Everyone doesn't need a panic yet. Because the vikings lost thirty three to six incomes. Clint kubiak taking over for old man is offensive coordinator. But when you look at this. Vikings team pain. Hey look they have a lot of headliners in the form of dalvin. Cook and justin jefferson. I don't think her cousins gets nearly enough credit for the level of stability. He's brought to the quarterback position but at the same time it's hard to argue with cousins seven thirty five career regular season record versus teams that finish the regular season with a winning record which seems a little bit bizarre for a guy who's got a ninety one at twenty nine touchdown interception ratio and typically averages more than four thousand yards season with a coach. Rather run the football. When you look at minnesota offensively can this team replicate how efficient and how explosive on offense. They put on the field each and every week last year. I'm not sure and i was shocked. How vikings offense perform last season. You know you lose your coordinator. Kevin stefanski one coach of the year and a playoff game for the browns. Your best weapon in stefan digs left for buffalo and somehow minnesota went from tenth in offensive efficiency to eighth top. Five early down offense red zone offense and overall explosiveness so that was a really great performance from minnesota last year. Now there was some noise in that numbers if you kind of back out some of the blowout games that they were in where their offense performed down the stretch. The offense didn't look as good but overall very good when you think about some of those factors i mentioned with. Oc and best weapon leaving. You mentioned the coordinator change this season. Vikings go from gary to son. Clint this schedule of defenses increase in difficulty from below average to fringe top. Ten near appears to be a large increase in some of the situational defense minnesota faces with big leaps in both third-down red zone defenses based on projections. And i think you probably want to talk about the elephant in the room. And that's the alight and cedo need one of those. You could be fine without one of those. It's perfectly okay. It seems to be the weakest part of the vikings every season and and rick spielman struggled to improve that line. Whether it's for agency or the draft. The injury bug hit some guys. Others aren't performing expectation christian der penciled in a day one starting left tackle groin surgery and now core muscles surgery doesn't look like he's going to be starting week one as cleveland penciled. In at left guard this is going to be third position in three years. Played tackle collagen right guards a rookie garrett bradberry the eighteenth pick in two thousand nineteen bene- massive bus so far hopefully year. Three we see some improvement. Great at the thirty fourth best pass blocking center among those the played at least eight games the eighty-six pick in the draft this year. White davis five star kid from ohio. State has been good in camp as a run blocker. But from what i'm hearing just a matador in pass protection and so when you take a guard with the eighty-six pick you don't expect them to be third on the depth chart at this position and that's where he sits right now. Brian o'neill at right tackle solid. But i think you know where i'm going with. This is the unit was supposed to be improved day. One in a big way so much. So seth gleaner wrote an article in may about the most improved units in the league. Think about this for a second thirty two teams if you break it down to eight. Units per team quarterback running back receiver tight end o line. Dealine linebacker in secondary. That's two hundred and fifty six possible. Units galina had the vikings aligns the most improved unit in the nfl. Now there is time for this to be the case. And i think it's possible minnesota's o. Line and proves that the season goes on in the young guys. Get into the mix. But it's a problem right now without a question everything else. Offensively does bode. Well if clint kubrick's anything like dad we're gonna see some diversity and formations which is great. Leave opposing defenses guessing. Minnesota played three formations at least twenty two percent of snaps last year. There was probably far too much run. Focus on second down. Which was the achilles heel of the offense. But if clint can identify that there shouldn't be regression even with spotty o. Line play justin jefferson year too could become one. The league's best finished seventh and defensive adjusted value above average among all receivers. Almost two point seven yards per route. Run only davante adams with better feeling one of the best technicians when it comes to route running it looks like minnesota has enough bodies where wide receiver three should upgrade the season. Whether it's cage a osborne to start or dede westbrook when healthy or you know later on in the season if smith marquette can grow within the system everyone is saying herbs smith junior is going to have a massive breakout season. He's been all the hype and camp as a pass catcher. We saw him growing your two yards per outrun dot and drop percentage. All improved does need to get back his rookie form helping and pass protection but could be a big year three for him. The one thing we do want to keep an eye on delvin cook and his effectiveness catching balls out of the backfield. The schedule of defenses project to be one of the very best limiting running back production through the air. That's been a huge part of the vikings offense in two thousand nineteen. There's more than eleven yards after the catch on targets. At or behind the line of scrimmage last year almost ten and a half yards delvin cooks a big part of that something to consider if you're potentially between cook or another back and fantasy but minnesota just gets average on play and cousins plays with added motivation now that the organization hired is replacement. I would expect another top ten offense that will get far more help from its defense this year. Well you mentioned the defense. And i think this is the more interesting unit in my opinion in terms of upside yet unknowns at the same time as it pertains to the vikings and we can start with the change in personnel goner. Mike hughes anthony hairs in our a bevy of fresh faces. Either returning from opt-outs or free agency. So let's start with alvin tomlinson who we talked about in the nfc east. I think the giants are really going to feel his absence in terms of their ability to clog the middle. You bring in sheldon richardson. Patrick peterson isn't the elite lockdown corner at this stage in his career but he's smart enough to grasp the scheme and you'd hope that he's in a position to be able to make plays because he's not going to get by on raw speed as we saw last year in arizona. I believe he was called for the most defensive holding slash pass interferences of any defensive back in the league. Xavier woods enters the. Fold as well you bring back. Mackenzie alexander who spent one year in. Cincinnati didn't produce the way. I think we both thought he could. As a member of that defense. Michael pierce returns from his opposite. Opt out shod. Brillant and stephen weatherly but clearly the biggest name was a man who missed all of last season with a neck injury daniel hunter but he wasn't the only one pain you lost thirty five combined man games from hunter. Anthony barr and eric hendricks having net trio back along with some of the others. We named shoot. Allow this defense that hit rock bottom. Go to bounce back in a big way. No doubt about it and i think we saw it coming a little bit in two thousand eighteen and nineteen when it came time to talk about the vikings. I said there were tiny things. Within the makeup of their defense that i didn't like that pointed towards regression that they hadn't truly been dominant or even good on early downs to sustain the level of overall defensive. Success that they were having minnesota was excelling in some of the various areas like third downs and red zones in you know a really good not giving up explosives and even though we saw some tiny dips those seasons the massive regression we called for came to fruition last year this was our largest fade in the futures market. Both the amount of money in the number of ways we faded minnesota and it was this perfect storm it was obvious regression. It was players leaving in free agency. There were too many new parts. Learning zimmer's really complex system and a shortened offseason and then no fans in the stands for team that had the best home. Field advantage under zimmer. I think we talked about that ad. Nauseam and it was the largest dip the entire year and homefield advantage. Everson griffin xavier. Rhodes lynnville joseph trae wayne's and mackenzie alexander all left. Anthony barr and air kendrick mixed nineteen games. Daniel hunter the best pass. Rusher missed the entire season. You had michael pierce. Who is like the prized free agent acquisition from baltimore. He never suited up up that out. And basically you had a unit that was losing the top nine guys from one side of the ball effectively nobodies overcoming that. But you do dig into some of the numbers and zimmer's defense somehow finished a respectable eighteen inefficiency will face in the fourth tough schedule offenses. And regardless of what we think of zimmer as a head coach where he can kind of be stuck in his old ways and a little crotchety is defensive. mind can't be questioned. And so you get to. Neil hunter back which is just massive. He's starting to finally get some of the lovey deserves. The best defensive end in football you combined eighteen and nineteen hundred led the league with one hundred and fifty four pressures. It wasn't day a bosa brother. Or watt brother but it was vanilla hunter top five in pressuring over those two seasons but he also does a really good job setting the edge. Top seventy five percent town run defense among qualifying ends. This is a massive get back because the vikings had the lowest pressure rate of any team since two thousand twelve last year. And even when the vikings blitzed they recorded the lowest pressure rate on those blitz assault left. All the young guys exposed in the back that we're learning this complex coverage scheme you mentioned delvin tomlinson. That is going to be a huge improvement. He's one of the better interior linemen. Great stopping the run eight sacks the last two seasons and tomlinson's coming off his best pass rush campaign. Michael pierce we mentioned is coming back. He's one of the best run stuffers in the league in his interview and the denver game. I'm not sure if you heard that. But he said expect pressure from. I've spent the last twelve months improving and refining that part of my game but having those two guys in the middle immediately and proves the run defense that finished thirtieth and rush efficiency and allowed almost five point two line yards per. Carry the second most all time sheldon. Richardson was brought back. You mentioned that it's a reunion. I believe he was there in two thousand eighteen. So he'll be part of that. Three man rotation inside. Eric hendricks and anthony barr back in the middle. Kendricks is arguably top three cover linebacker and again last year allowed sixty rating when targeted only five point. Three yards per target allowed veterans at corner that understand the system will start. I'm not being biased. But few i think if talked about briones importance to kansas city's defense the last few seasons more than us. He's now starting for zimmer and they're hoping a resurgence. From patrick peterson. Minnesota did lose. Jeff glad near the first rounder from twenty twenty after legal trouble which absolutely socks the other rookie corner cam. Dancer graded out the third best defender in minnesota last year in short offseason so tons of promise there. I think there's some upside with dj as well has a chance to be an impact guy in your to. He was the other rookie that was thrown into the fire. Had a necessity generated a respectable pressuring. Considering all the circumstances zimmer likes him so much that's why minnesota passed on edge rusher at fourteen and traded back despite every mock draft saying differently upgrades across the board defensively with signings in health and young is having a full off season. You pair those things with a schedule of opposing offenses. That goes from top five overall against the past to roughly average. Okay and so. I think we'll see zimmer's defense get back into the top ten and defensive efficiency without question this year and when you look at the viking schedule if they need to build momentum early on they'll play a three games at home arguably two of their three most difficult opponents to the first six game stretch you get seattle and cleveland back to back weeks late. September early october three road games book ended cincinnati and carolina before they go into their bye week seven so see if the vikings are able to make a early on this season and help us achieve one of our desired goals from our best bet we gave out earlier this season encourage folks to go back and listen to the college football podcast if you wanna know how. We've chosen to invest in the minnesota vikings so far this season as always you could follow paying on twitter at paine insider. I'm todd firm and you can follow me there. Most importantly follow the podcasts. At the board pod all the links for not only our six k. football free rural available there but also to get you to sign up for fan duel sportsbook dot com slash at the board take advantage for all those new users out there For some of the generous sign up options that will be available in pain while recording. The podcast everyone's messiah so to speak is it comes to preseason. Football's gonna find his ability to cover his nineteenth street gain to be a little more difficult. Trace mcsorley ruled out for the baltimore ravens for the remainder of the preseason. So we'll see if john harbaugh can continue covering games at such a high clip but before we get out of dodge here for the nfc north. I wasn't sure if there was an element or nugget we failed to hit on for any of these four teams know and i will say this we kind of warn people that there might not be a best bet on all. Thirteen preseason previews. I don't have one here. But i was hoping that week to. Nfl preseason lines would be up and widely available. They're not go to bet the board podcast dot com. Sign up for the newsletter. Maybe send something out to all the subscribers there. But what i will say is we can kind of focus here on the vikings and i'm going to be a little nicer than you and not make people go back and listen to the college podcast. There are and i've looked this morning. A handful of shops that are still dealing minnesota at eight and a half minus a dollar sixty. I still think that's investable and what's really interesting. When we talked about minnesota previously. We thought they would go from like eight and a half. And i said hey. This team might actually get to nine and a half by the time. Things kickoff and a rash of shit has basically unfolded in minnesota with jeff clad nii being removed from the team christian darris our getting reinjured seeming. Cousins and zimmer throwing jabs at each other via the media and so not the best and then you had aaron rogers return and despite all of that. We're now looking at nine point to the market consensus on the vikings at tells you how wildly mis-priced priced. This was when we gave it out but again if you can find eight and a half minus sixty there's at least two sponsors us morning than have that i would make sure you get in on that i will say one thing about the preseason pain. Two games that you and i discuss. If we're coming on the podcast outlets just say those numbers are no longer widely available. We thought was miss box. That had a the two spots that opened as more and more books have come online. I don't think either of those numbers are going to make it into the mix to do some digging and should we see some opportunity. There is some of the sharper shops opened a normal number exactly. They opened the numbers. The numbers where the numbers should have opened. So we'll see if there's a little bit of wiggle room for any of these games all with a full slate. On saturday. You'll have one game thursday night games on friday and even sunday night and monday night football next week. So i'm sure we'll be able to dig in something when we reconvene on thursday to attack yet another division half of the national football league officially down broken through broken down easy for me to say as eloquently as we possibly can again for those folks. If this is the first time you found about the board podcast. Listen to the nfc north. Go back in the center. The afc north the afc the nfc east and all five power five conferences from the college football ranks plenty of content as the season inches. Closer by the minute by the hour by the second. Four pain insider. I'm todd firm. And with the minnesota. Vikings win total ticket hand in the nfc north. We'll see you at the window. Thanks for listening to the board. You can catch todd and pain every monday. Wednesday and thursday during football season. Breaking down the biggest. Nfl and college football games and to make sure you don't miss any free best. Bets subscribe to bet the board on itunes google. Play spotify or wherever. You listen to podcasts.

justin fields bears nagy vikings fangio mike zimmer dan campbell todd chicago vic fangio broncos eddie goldman nfc green bay kyle fuller Chicago jake browning nathan peterman
No 132: Ferris Buellers Day Off

Podcast 42

1:12:53 hr | 1 year ago

No 132: Ferris Buellers Day Off

"You are about to embark on a show about four people who find themselves from Russ engine the back. Ball culture history joy I heard boss jail, Troth Laura. Nevada's answering the air as they poorly impersonate celebrities drink a lot of beer and answer very hard trivia questions you are now listening to. podcasts forty two. So I I made a few modifications to the FISHBOWL. I see that but for the love of God why? Because he always has to be busy? Chris why don't you just learn how to relax marked? Amer laxed when I'm busy I can't relax doing nothing. That's weird. That's. The part that weird. So why does the fishbowl have moving gears and spinney things and steam punk looking smoke whistles on it you it. Reminds me of Franken. Berry what are smoke whistles you? Right there. Looks like a whistle, but smoke is coming out of it like in the old cartoons dude. Okay I see that now. You are good tutor. I don't know whether to tell you or just kind of let it happen. Tell us. All. Right. Then let's play a day and go with the minority. Oh which means what let's start with fishbowl facts fishbowl facts. And see what happens. Faith fishbowl fact number one. Thousand Nine Hundred Ninety TV series based on the film began to air on NBC, which can now be viewed in its entirety on Youtube by the way. With Charlie schlatter replacing Matthew in the title role due to the poor ratings, it was canceled during his first season doing show Parker Lewis can't lose was a spiritual successor in some way was the real TV adaption fishbowl fact number two, Ben Stein was an economics professor was originally set to speak headlines off camera, but his voice made the room while he's told signs at just lecture about something he knew a lot about work. So Stein. Talk a bit about economics is Hughes filmed it. The only part of signed seen that was scripted was. When he took attendance fishbowl fact number three, Richardson one of the parking lot attendance was the original drummer in Sonic Youth. fishbowl fact number four huge crash actual von Steuben. Day Parade to shoot the parade scenes. They entered a float into the annual procession downtown Chicago but didn't inform parade officials or judges what they were planning on doing aboard Jennifer Gray Donda Wig. So she could be in the crowd and part of the fun noticed Broderick struggled with choreography because of a knee injury fishbowl fact number five I was afraid I was gonNA. Get this one. Love what he says that. Among the noble works featured in the museum seen our Sunday afternoon on the island of Legrand. Herat. which is probably not how you say that by George Surat eighteen eighty four during which cameras struggles to find his identity in the face of one of the children and the painting. And Amanda Windows Marc Chagall nineteen seventy seven in front of which Ferris and slow and have a romantic moment Alex. chagall does that Stevens chagall fishbowl fact number six, various dad lyman moored, and mom Cindy Pickett got married in Nineteen eighty-six. After meeting onset they had two children split years later in nineteen ninety, two fishbowl fact number seven on October first two, thousand eleven Wrigley. Field celebrated the twenty fifth anniversary the film by showing it on three giant screens on the Infield fishbowl fact number eight, doe close was founder Modern Improv, and taught the craft almost every comedic actor out of second city in the seventies and eighties close portrayed the English teacher and delivered the classic line in what way to a class full board kids weren't you there for that? Being bored kid no or second city so I consider like in the seventies and eighties. Yeah I'm also a time traveler. Speaking of which What's happening? What are those lights and what does that sound? Why am I spending one way and my head is spinning another way My. Mouth. Feels law. What should happen I? Don't feel so good. It will pass in a few minutes. Wait a minute lugging everyone's hair. Yup It's nineteen five bruce springsteen Madonna way before Nevada there was youtube and Blondie and music still on MTV. turned. Into An. Machine or or perhaps a time travel machine maybe. Is this Chicago yes. Chicago had the worst haircuts I remember learning that in history class. That's why the bad haircut time travel machine brought us here. Hey. What Sabrina Crystal has the same haircut he did in the eighties. Enough about my hair. You guys just knock on the door over there. I went to juilliard for this. You went to juilliard for what knocking. I have a master's in it. You have a masters from juilliard for knocking. That doesn't even make sense Google me. You'll see yet right here on the website of Juilliard Alumni is Sabrina wearing his hut. Complete, with with white gloves and standing next twitter, you went to the most prestigious art school in the world. To learn how to knock on doors, not just knock on doors but to knock on doors with style listen. A. Degree in that. That's John Hughes. I love your movies, Uncle Buck. Why would you call me Uncle Buck? It's Mr Hughes or just John He hasn't done uncle buck yet That's rude to assume my sexuality especially on my own front stoop can help you people super busy. I've been reading the script for the last six days. There's a Hollywood writers strike on the horizon I WanNa make this movie before that happens. So you're writing like you're running out of time. That's oddly poetic Donka. Shane. Donka Shane. I've always liked that song. I just might work that into the script spread that song through a whole movie right under people's noses careful Sabrina. You can't change. You can change history really easy by saying or doing the wrong thing. I'll probably change history just by breathing wrong such longest. Isn't that. A. You, there is a new form of music called wrap that has really taken off. I might give that phrase to my good buddy flavor Flav, he can turn that into song. Why are you writing like you're running out of time I really liked that. Great. Sabrina you may have just destroyed Hamilton. Whose Hamilton, how did he get destroyed? Oh Hamilton nothing? He is just overrated banker more like a line flavor flav could sink his gold teeth into right how do you know flavor Flav oh had. His fourth cousin on his dad's to side the family doesn't really want to talk about never mind that what do people want you're getting me way off track here Specialty I need to pitch this script, paramount studios, chief Ned Tannen and time short. Wow. Are you writing Lord of the Rings? That's a great book it would not make a very good movie though can you imagine how cheesy the special effects would look? Yeah. Bitterly two more decades or so. I'm ready my movie, which is at the moment called Harris Mueller's Day out. You See Harris fakes illness to stay at home. The cool thing is that throughout the film Harris Breaks the fourth wall to talk about his friends and give the audience advice on various subjects as parents really believe he is ill sister Jeannie does not. There's even a small subplot where everyone takes up the cause to save Harris throughout the town. Heiress don't you mean Ferris Ferris fairness. Berries one odd but interesting. To typo. TYPO. When I was going through proofreading and I left it because I wasn't sure. Varies why would he think he's I Dunno wrote it. Question when you write things I read what's in front of me you know you should always question just like who's great broadcaster. Ron Burgundy, what an but. Name Crap I just realized I'm going to be late for my meeting with Dan. We can help hold onto the FISHBOWL. It's a time machine time machine why official fish bowl why not a hot tub the Hattab too big and we are to for this bowl is empty. Where's the fish? You know we never thought pudding fishing to it. Weird Okay Everyone grab a part of the RIM and hold on. My stomach is off flippity flop. Any just like your shoes. They love me flip-flop. That's amazing. We just traveled a paramount studios and like a second being all that la traffic it's better than Siri. Siri no one since we helped you get here so fast can we sit in with you on your script pitch? Meeting. Somewhat of a scriptwriter myself, I would love to see the process. It's kind of Unorthodox. But sure why not great you know life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look her out once in a while you could miss it. That's great. Do you mind if I use that jail be my guest? Hey. From the Disney. Company. Perhaps you ever heard of it anyway can. I, use that people? I guess froze for Moody we're working. Jail. You did it again. oops. Did again hey. Young Britney Spears over their methods, Hanan will see you now Mr Hughes. Thank God hears. McCoy. Glad to see you. What. Magic money-making screenplay do you have for me? Today is another sixteen candles maybe another breakfast club is like Mr Mom or National Lampoon's vacation perhaps. Yes. Your hands raced. Life. He's walking around parallel. Weird. Now, quite it's called Ferris Mueller's Day out and it's about a kid teaching you life lessons while he breaks all the rules he used my name suggestion. which was really his name suggestion to begin with but she didn't let him get there on his own. This could change history as we know it. Yeah. Maybe crocs won't be invented or something like that. You're all these people. Just some friends that helped me get here. Yeah. We're like time traveling Uber's over. One. A funny word. What does that mean? Nothing nothing brings just having a stroke to. She's not having a stroke. We are podcasts forty, two, a very popular in show. That's Chris Jail Sabrina and I'm Laura. The Internet I've heard of that, Berkeley is about two hundred computers soaked up to it. It's supposed to be the wave of the future one day. We'll see. they basically do with it is son notes back and forth at nude pictures made up of keyboard symbols. You guys do a show on there doesn't seem like it's worth it for a two hundred people audience it's more than we have now. A. We were very popular. Yeah I'm huge on the Internet. Very interesting. I. Don't know what that means. But time is money here and we've got a writers strike set to pick it right outside the studio in about six hours by the way. I can't help but notice this green play clocking in at about two hours and forty five minutes. I don't know how you're going to get the script down with only six hours to do it in just figure we can cut down the time Eddie has as supposed to happen that'd be a nightmare. Well, the story takes place all on one day all the characters wear the same clothes throughout the whole thing that gives it a lot of freedom in the editing room. We did it with the breakfast. Club could. You describe the register exactly. You see for this movie to work we have the beginning and the end already it doesn't matter what exactly happens to the characters in the middle. It's all about where they start and where they and like. Lord. Of the Rings Great Book. Del will never work. As a movie, the Stop Motion Animation would be a nightmare maybe George Lucas and his team could make it I don't know. But I digress Let's light this movie. Careful on your way out some picketers or here early for the tailgating people tailgate before picketing. Here they do. and. I smoke a BALSA. Why don't we jump forward in time a little bit and see how the cast this movie. Great. Time travel thickness no. No. More time travel so. Of It audio time travel sickness. Great I would just wanting to write the great movie, right? There's got to be something to help with that dramamine or something. Yeah. Try this. What is it and Al Toyed? This is going to help. Yeah. It'll easier stomach for time travel fresh your breath and it is curiously All Right Irwin grab onto the rim of the FISHBOWL. Hey. Who are you people? You can't just pop in and out of thin air like fat we're trying to cast the movie here. It's okay. Janet Hirschenson I know them it's weird that he used her first and last name like that. I think it was just to establish who she is. got listen Janet. There's only one person I have in mind for Ferris Bueller and that is Matthew Broderick. Dame. Yeah. I wonder where he got that idea from Yeah Laura it was used Sabrina Oh. Yeah. Well, you guys need to relax pardon my French girls hold tight that if you stuck a lump of coal up your ass in two weeks, there would be diamonds can I use that maybe modified sure us whatever you want Johnny it's no problem. Whatsoever John if you could focus why Broderick has the right charm and he is clever if Jimmy Stewart was fifteen right now I would cast him but he's not. Broaddrick is the guy besides anthony. Michael Hall already turned Me Down I. Also Have Jim Carey Tom Cruise Johnny Depp Eric Stokes Robert, Downey Junior, and Michael J. Fox interested Broderick will do ok well, Amelia. Of as John, Cusak and Allen. Rock are all here to audition for Kamin fry Ferris's best friend and Molly Ringwald and. Here tradition for Sloane. Peterson the girlfriend hope John cusack gets it. He's my favorite actor of all time. You already know John Cusak doesn't get it. I can change that Sabrina no Mr Hughes Amelia would be perfect plus you have already worked with him on breakfast club. Yes. True. Perfect. Amelia Estevez's is not John Cusack Sabrina. Emilio is a little cutie though. Junkies can be a little Cutie Sabrina, you changed the movie. Whatever it doesn't do as well. Now, it will don't worry. Amelia can do anything. I bet you can even play a garbage man in a movie and it would be a blockbuster. Emilio Estevez doesn't want the part he turned it down. Yes. John cusack. It is. Why don't you just marry John cusack since you like him so much would but then that would change history. He might not make Grosse Pointe. Blank and that would be wrong for future generations for now. I shall sacrifice our love. I think we should go with Allen Rock I remember him addition for Bender and Breakfast Club you know the role I gave to judd. Nelson. Good thing to jobs such a cutie who is not acutely to you in Hollywood Freddy. Krueger. Not a real person. You know I, the character of Cameron on a friend of mine in high school he was sort. Of A loss person, his family neglected him. So he took that as license to really pamper himself when he was legitimately sick he actually felt good because it was difficult and tiring to have to invent diseases. But when he actually had something, he was relaxed Despite Rock Bang thirty. He looks like he could pass for a teenager and has good chemistry with Matthew. By the way they had previously acted together in the Broadway production of block see blues. Okay. Also, I don't want Mali in this. Why isn't that your go-to actress? Yes but I feel like this part is too small for her Mia Sara is Osso Jennifer. Gray is on board to play fairest his sister Jeannie. That's good. It will give her broader A. Chance to secretly date during filming quite and money to get a news job. Well, that was mean I didn't say she needed a nose job. That's what she did with the money. Yeah. Sometime after dirty dancing to play the principal, we should get that guy from Amadeus data. So what's his name Jeffrey Jones? Yes plus I heard he is good with children. Jeffrey Jones here as reading the script and my part seems really smelling here. Don't worry people know you for this part as well as being listed in the US Department of Justice. National Sex offender database what now who's changing history? Well, I'm up for anything as long as they are fifteen or younger why I don't know what he's talking about dope help you study for this part I want you to meet my old vice principal he used to wear a gun. In his belt under his coat that guy seems like he was sign up for the army quick before kill you in tenths. Yes and that's how I want you to play it to who is next I've already cast the economics teacher would Ben Stein because he has a flat voice and he looks like a teacher plus he's a Republican and I'm a Republican. We are probably the only Republicans in the movie business what an odd statement what are you going to do? The question isn't what are we going to do? The question is what aren't we going to do somebody standing next to her and write down the things. She says, Sabrina Ben Stein here I siege change the name of the character to Bueller yes, Euler. Bueller. Buehler. Buehler. Is that how you say it let me see that script I'll another little tiny rewrite I took the liberty getting Edie McClurg to play grace great. I checked liberty to get her his sister eating. Great, we'll just get her to improvise a bunch of future iconic lines we are from the future and I. And Charlie Shane is here to cameo as GARF- The boy and the police station on drugs perfect base for doing this Charlie. I plan on staying up. Forty eight hours straight. Doing drugs. To get ready that's very method of you, but you don't have to do that for the part o I'm not doing it for the part. I was going to do it anyway. Okay. Well, I don't advise it tiger blood. Why don't we jump ahead in time to something else? Yeah. Let's watch him film it. Okay grab a hold of the FISHBOWL. Here's an outside lawyer. But next time warned me instead of just pushing into my mouth that's what she said. CHICAGO. I love this town. You Know I. Get a lot of flack for always using it as backdrops to my movies. I don't know why. Are. The Allen doesn't get crap for using. New York all the time. Cold thought this movie took place in the school year, which would be late spring. Early summer does that's why we have the prop department painting, the leaves Green on those trees over there. They're a little too brown I. WanNa paint leaves, knock yourself out I'm sure they can use the help create I have my own paintbrush and my own Kenneth Purple Paint. You a couple of minutes you do realize she's going to destroy all the work you're prop department is doing. It looks like she's having fun plus we're filming the parade seen today. It'll be okay. Most of the focus is on the float you know how many extra here I remember the scene being very crowded. It will be see yellows, construction workers and business people just going about their day we're going to use them as well. You're using real Chicago's. That's so cool where we started filming you guys can jump in there to thank I wanna be a flow girl I love the October fest dresses. No problem you can be on the plays the accordion in the back of the float. I'll do it now. No, I'll do it. Excuse me John. It's Paul McCartney. John Lennon would have been better right. But if John Lennon showed up just now he would have been a ghost. Or Demon. Or Daemon Ghost ghostly demon John. Lennon is still better than breathing Demon Paul McCartney. Hell. Is there something wrong Paul besides him him as jail thanks friend the besides him don't worry about him. He's from the future. Really all man Linda still together remember you can't give too much away. You'll change the future. Let's just say you never divorce. Well, let something. Was Wrong. Paul I'll give you the rights to my song. But does it have to have all the boss in it? It doesn't feel quite right you know. Well it's a parade with high school bands marching in. They big brass sections in them. So we thought it might be more realistic with the brass and the song I kind of get it. But couldn't you find a high school macho man that had electric guitars in it? Not really done. We still use the song I guess but I ain't GonNa be happy about it boy. Pause. A tough cookie everyone knows John was the better cookie policies like single oreos while John is like double stuffed Oreos no wait. Paul's like single vanilla cookie. Oreos John. Is like the double stuff fudge covered oreos. Now I got polly's orioles that have been left in the package that left open are now soft and John is like fresh off the conveyor belt plopped into a dairy Queen Blizzard Handspun Bhai Shaquille O'Neal. Oreo. That is serving a giant. Yeti Cup I got nothing. If you two are done. I'll tell you I'm really looking forward to the next location. It's the Art Institute of Chicago. It's kind of a self indulgent seen is always a place of refuge for me. I went there quite a bit. Love it. I knew all the paintings and the building in the film. I'm going to show the paintings that were my favorite. That's pretty cool. Yes especially consume the museum has never been filled in before. Yes. So after this crazy upbeat shot of the parade, we are going to insert the more subdued. Piece seems. Out of place yeah I'm not saying test audiences are GONNA hate it but test audiences are going to hate it as well as the studio heads. It's like you guys know something but aren't really really telling me this scene is great. You see I wrote the part where Cameron is concentrating on. George Sarah Painting. Sunday afternoon on the island of Lebron. But why it's really all about his moviemaking teenage angst and adult security. How so? I always thought this painting was sort of like making a movie. The pointless style you don't have any idea what your real Nah I somebody stupid ass words, and they're they're just because that's this is a quote him saying it oh plagiarism no. You can't plagiarise quote. Malania quote. JAGNA. Always. Thought. This painting was sort of like making a movie the pointless style you don't have any idea what you've made until you step back from it just like the more Cameron looks at the painting. There's nothing there cameron fears that the more you look at him less you see deep and you can't play a close quote. Maybe you could rethink the sequence of events year and maybe quotation marks. So we know it's a quote. Specially if the praise seems to be the best thing that happens to Ferris and friends that day and we don't need quotations because he's actually saying it but is he Stupid time travel. It's all wonky. Wait a minute it to quote within a quote. Play drives. We got inception. It's not plagiarized because John Hughes said that that's why it's but not part. So it's a quote within a quote that's within a quote. Unquote. He says it but I'm GonNa quit using his quote. Me Supreme and It's not. because. He's saying. Later. Are. Back. Okay. We'll see I think that's a wrap. The girls are Baghdad. Six times and I thought the float seven times it's not a competition. You know to see how many times when could fall off the float Laura work shall win. Do another one bites the dust. Making it a competition I was just saying float surfing. It's harder than it looks. Matthew. Broderick smelled good I know we were so close to him I touched his shoulder. Okay. Let's fan girl selves down and traveled to Wrigley Field Wrigley now. No. I want to shoot the scene at Comiskey Park I'm a white sox fan after all. It seems like you're running out of time to finish the film. So Wrigley, we'll be the better choice here. Everyone grabbed the fishbowl. Don't you dare said that L. Toy to my mouth Sabrina I'll do it myself fine. I'll just shove it in jails mouth instead bugger up buttercup way. I don't see where the filming crew is, but I see fairest bueller flexing his hand like he just caught a foul ball and thirsty who has nothing to do with barris flexing his hand like he just caught a foul ball. where? I see this is the perfect time and place for a drink just reach into the fishbowl kill around until you feel your beer cooler, it should be in there somewhere. F. It's. Blue. Did you get the be report. Yeah. I wish it was an old style though. I mean, we are at Wrigley seems more fitting. What does that mean? Old Style is like the PBR Wrigley Field? Okay. You ever have style. That's a fair. You, say, that's a fair way to say it. It's like the PBR. I drink it every time I go to Wrigley field it doesn't matter. Well, this is not a fancy. What is this this is is coded tiles from the Liquor Project Yeah Lik. Beer Projects York. Yeah from Queens new. York. All the way to New York beer and that beer cooler. Especially since Chicago's got good beer, I know you think would have found a goose island or something like that. Maybe you reach too far maybe. It's the coldest though. Did, you say, what? Style of Beer? This was a Pale Ale The description is a flagship hazy Golden American Pale Ale brewed with copious amounts of cash sicher and Simcoe hops over a body of pills ner and mouth gets late base is the perfect backbone to effervescent and bright hop Romans of mango, pineapple and Evergreen. The labels six labels. Pretty cool. That's why I bought it. I didn't even know what type of beer. This was all I saw oo look at the. Label will stay tuned until the end of the episode where we rate to be your one through six one being the worst sixteen. The best this makes sense to that's based on a six pack which makes sense to everybody except for one lone Canadian in Kissimmee. The is on the same following. Judging you. Had too much to drink. She's took her SIP. Ranking Time Greg. Plus hot in the stadium. What's the score anyway nothing nothing. Bears the bears well something still doesn't seem right though I just don't know what Will vats easy. This is a game between the Montreal Expos and the Cup in the movie it's supposed to be between the braves and the cups. That's pretty impressive. How did you remember that easy I love pizza what does pizza have to do with it? Yes really is looking for Ferris at a pizza place and the game is on TV, and just as Rooney looks away a shown onscreen catching a foul ball. It's another close call for ferry. It's almost as if the movie was designed that way. Yeah. The teams were similar color. So editing must have been pretty easy probably easier than at any one of our shows. Right. There you guys are I've been looking for you. Yeah, the fishbowl knocked us off course a little. What's next on the shooting schedule? We have a little brother and sister and the Strip club visit for Fairest Cameron slum. I don't remember those being in the movie neither do I wait don't we go to the premiere of the film that should be more fun instead of all this filming stuff's especially since those are scenes are just going to get caught and bring anything fancy to wear Chris I wasn't expecting the time travel today you need to warn me for one I would have worn my time traveling flipflops. You have time traveling flipflops. Yes. Every woman in the south of time traveling flipflops not to mention dance flipflops, next restaurant flip flops, and going to a curling expedition flip with trump an expedition or an exhibition. depends. It depends on how? Much you want to get into that how many closer they're wearing. Here, let's grandmother the fish bowl and go. This is not the premiere of the film. No this is Cameron's Dad's garage and there is the one thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, one Ferrari to fifty GT California. Less than a hundred were made, it looks like it was rubbed with a baby diaper for hours. There is no film crew here. It's just us. They must see filming the scene later and we beat them here. Wait a minute. This isn't a nineteen, sixty, one Ferrari to fifty gt but a GT spider California it's a near replica and not only that it's not even a real card just this shell of a car it's also an automatic. That's weird. It's really leaves. My cheese out in the wind. This be careful Sabrina you're leaning on the car and it's Una- carjack for some reason, I'm just tired like time traveling makes me tired I liked it. The garage is suspended over ravine as encased in thin glass windows. It should probably get off the cards wobbling backwards a little and for some reason it's running in reverse but I, love this car I hate my wife but I love this car it's wind for the movie. oops oops. oops I guess you save them the trouble of wrecking the car and you think I'm the spoiler clean. The lobby is over thirty years old. Let's get. OUTTA. Here before they see what we did hold onto the FISHBOWL. This is the set of Ebert and Roeper. Lawyer Show it's not a lawyer show. It's a movie critic show up. It could be produced by lawyers I give this film a three out of four stars at is one of the most innocent movies in a long time. This is a sweet warm hearted comedy I agree Roger This is one of my favorite movies of all time and has one of the highest repeatability factors of any film I've ever seen I can watch it again. And again, there's also this and I say this in all sincerity various peelers day off is something of a suicide prevention film or at least the very least a story about a young man trying to help his friend gained some measure of self worth Farris has made it his mission to show Cameron that the world in front of him is passing him by and that life can be pretty sweet if you wake up and embrace it. That's the last thing. Message Affairs Buehler's Day off. Deep Yeah really deep I thought it was just a fun skipped school comedy or you know Movie critic see far more in a films that we do. Yeah. Roeper called Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy a parallel Universe of the nine eleven conspiracy and a hallmark to underage migrant workers in China I'm Batman and Batman I'm that man I'm not. Excuse me, who are you people and what are you doing on our TV show? What we're doing is poking fun at your over inflated movie reviews I know these people I refute show once I called it mind numbing chaotic and a mess with the facts. You liked it. He definitely did not like it not one minute of it just ignore them. Let's continue with the show so far Ferris Buehler's Day off has had a total weekend gross of six, million, two, seventy, five, thousand, six, hundred, forty, seven opening at number two at the box office. It's well way to becoming the ten highest grossing film of One. Thousand nine hundred eighty six that's Ali put suspicious incident news dollars. Type of currency. Growth of six, million, two, hundred, seventy, five, thousand, six, hundred, and forty, seven, which i. Just ignore them. Let's continue with the show so far Ferris Buehler's Day off has had A. Debit at tap and he. Just. Being. That's GONNA. Get edited. Anyway. Six million. Seventy, five, thousand, six, hundred, and forty seven. Dollars. Worn. billion. That's oddly put no Mr your oddly put. That's even more oddly put now minister you're even more oddly put listen I could do this all day your God let's just go. Yes. Most like film critic in here I got the Bowling Alto Lloyd's. We are back home. I'm not sure I like your fishbowl time traveling thing. Yeah. It has a lot of roles and gets US lost sometimes. But what did you learn about Ferris Bueller I mostly learn what I already know the Film Palace Bears Bueller Matthew Broderick, a high school senior in suburban Chicago who pretends to be sick and skipped school. He convinces his neurotic best friend, Cameron Allen, rock as carefree. Girlfriend Sloan, Mia Sara to come along with him. The three of them Barrow quotation marks Cameron's father's price sports car heading into the city to spend one day together before graduation meanwhile fares resentful sister Jeanie Jennifer Gray and dean of Students Ed. Rooney Jeffrey Jones are both hot on his trail. Ready to prove that he skipping school. How `bout we learn a little more. Let's not because it's pop quiz time. Slip over into the. Ship. Not. In the budget. When I get a job, you get a new pet. You'd better tell someone to call his back to. Ring Ring. Sabrina to to. Take. This pop quizzes called a tape before pictures of Matthew Broderick Tj, my rims. Now I have ferris wheels. Or? What Producers Matthew Broderick does. What did Ferris Bueller name his donkey? Shane Darling Daca Shane. Five General Knowledge Facts Ferris Buehler's Day off worthy easiest to the hardest to test your knowledge. Score. One point for each correct answers, they can't be winners I know. He totally blew his load last week with the Hogan wants to. Question Number One how did fairs and Cameron. Get Sloan out of school. If. He did watch the movie before the show. Your fault. Hit. If you watched the movie before the show, he can answer all these questions suit not be playing through. A lot of writing nails writing a novel. It. Was a long. The movie inherently, you don't have to do the whole stops relate I did four lines of it. Question number two. What does genie find on the kitchen floor proving that Mr Rooney appropriate in Mr Rooney broke through the doggy door to get into the house. But that's not when Hugh Hygiene. Sued. And then. You left behind. Question number three who gets arrested in Ferris Bueller. Stay off. Hit this is one of the characters in the film. ooh. Question Number Four. Who is the sausage King of Chicago I'm looking for the character name not who pretended. He was. That one I know. Not, the caregiver that pretended to be social king but the actual name of. Yes. Yes I am. You're from Chicago. Sabrina should be struggling on this. You should know who don't you know they do a tour of this in Chicago? Do they really? Yeah Oh, it's a real person. Yeah. They do a whole tour. It's like embarrassed Bueller. When hear anyone here, it's a whole scenic tour. Thought. Maybe sausage cables a real person he has. She doesn't just get your sausage at Portillo's. And they go. Oh Yeah it's by the Sausage Games Chicago would you like an Italian beef with that dipped are not first of all? Tell. US It's absolutely true and make sure it's dipped question number five. WHAT'S A dip? Because you. Number five what does one of the bus riders offered to Mr Rooney, on the bus ride home Hit this is near and dear Laura's heart. Now who's writing a paragraph. should not be a paragraph should be two, maybe three words. Hoping the whole thing. Yeah. Her whole sentence that she says to him okay. All right. Pens down. Question Number One, how do fairest and Cameron loan out of school Laura. They pretend her grandma died. Jail. Cameron, calls up the school with all the whole. Yeah. He calls up the school and he's pretends to be your father and he says that her father her grandmother died and that's how they get her out. He's coming to pick her up. Sabrina. I just said they called and said someone was sick. Close it up and everyone. Disappoint. She didn't get it right though yeah. That's true. Right? She said seventy six dot. Number two. What does Janine find on the floor proving that Mr Rooney had broken? Sabrina. Jail, a wallet. Wallet. You're all wrong. There was his wallet. Question number three who gets arrested Ferris Buehler's Day off Jail Charlie Sheen's character Mitch. Sabrina. Jack Jones character. Jack Shows. Yeah. That's Jeffrey Jones brother. Got In trouble before he did. Laura. How about Jeannie Ferris BILLERS SISTER JEANIE GETS ARRESTED I was right to. Well. We're looking for Jeannie that was my other answer because she meets him in the police station. But he wasn't really a caretaker was he? Doesn't matter. There's a thing there who is a scientist King of Chicago Jail Roman Laura Ape Berman. Sabrina. Thousands Queen. Sausage Queen. King Yeah. It's like a twist. Boy's town. She could take all the sausage Abe from. April. What we're looking for. Could take all the sausage question number five. What does the bus riders offered to Mr Rudeina's right home Sabrina and Al Toyed. Laura. gummy bears from her pocket. So they're nice and. Oh I sent choosing a ride. Garissa correct answer. Comey bears what are you five? Were Laura or me. Sources for this script a long time ago, and it cutting room far far away my fifty years at eating Hollywood hits star wars carry various stay off mission impossible more event. Paul. Hirsch Buzzfeed Judd Hirsch was an editor. Yes. is his brother Palm behind the music featuring Julian Cope wikipedia and youtube. I love you too. They're overrated. You know Joshua Tree is one of the greatest albums of all it is if you start from the eighties and early nineties, it's classic. Yes. They lost it after Zootopia or whatever you rope. Zero PGA. Let's see what you have to say on facebook Jennifer says, love it. Classic outfight anyone who says otherwise Anybody WanNA fight Jennifer. Now I love. Here's Gillies. down. Jennifer Gray I'm always up for a flight. Physical fight or verbal. Probably Early, qualified to. Call it. I wish all do the fighting. She'll never see. Lou who's a female to male says I. Love It. I love. Can you unite. You can call her in and then that way you don't have to go a long story. WHO's a female? All I know is. Where you work where you are the Enron. I love you. So Monteleone don't listen to my husband he's a jerk. Where you work for a living yeah. All the females are named male. We have Michael that the girl Yep Yep, we have a randy girl. We have a Lou that's girl. And I'm not saying that you have to gender specify a name. What's funny is people call me Larry. It's very odd. Have that caused me Larry? Me Even. Funded by gender nizing names you can email me. We're as hard as I knew what? Lou He was talking about before he even said any. GonNa talk about. These in the world eljay says, maybe it's because I didn't grow up watching. It never knew what it was until I was in my thirties and finally watched a few years ago but don't see the big deal about it. It's not bad at all. Not The blockbuster everyone makes it out to be either because she's not looking at it right? She's still comparing it to school but that's like literally the Best Colin Day for work. Ever. Lake I mean come on you can also apply that to work watch this movie the other day it holds up very well it's still a great movie whether you saw it in your thirties forties it's it's a good movie I haven't watched it in years. It's on prime. optimus. Yes. And you can't show movie on the back of a transformer. Says accepted. Huge. On the Internet. Bado says best movie ever you must not be married to J. Keith says my wife go word for word with this movie when watch it so can my wife but that's every movie. Christopher says not me it's a different Christopher too many of them and that's a lot of Christopher. You're not that many lose. It's a boy. Sure. Yes. It's a boy I saw has profile picture means nothing. It's classic by far looking back at the timeframe. There were a lot of movies like this that still stand out today breakfast clubs, sixteen candles just name a few brings back memories all. Now duckie's a stocker by today's standards. Yeah I think, I've only seen sixteen candles. Really Yeah, it definitely can't quote that one I've seen the sequel many times. It's better sequel seventeen candles. Felt right. Yeah Molly. ringwald wasn't in that one that was an alley sheedy movie. Why Do. You like watching the brooding depressed person that's not a rider that yes. Well, I love owner excuse the same person every movie show but she's fantastic. I mean somebody get some magnets that work though. To help her with her she's different in stranger things she plays crazy and Dodge. Yes shoes or Edward Scissorhands or star Trek. Crazy like she. Things not loopy crazy. She was what you described earlier depress teen. She's depressed teen and everything up until stranger things because I think she was in was with Christian slater and he's like the poor man's Jack Nicholson loved her show slater. Very underrated movie I love Carson Psycho what she really depressed Heen and Edward scissorhands. But that doesn't go along with my joke Gino. What's the best part of Edward Scissorhands Anthony? Michael? Hall is the villain. Back in Washington movie he had to turned out fierce buehler's they McDonald trespassing. But of fact, that was filmed in Lakeland Florida. Why the snow looks so real. That would also explain why it's never snowed in that area before him. Let's go to twitter always redhead says definitely a classic Oh. Thanks. Sabrina. Welcome Adam and the ants with a Z.. I may not show it. I don't know. Are they. Adam and the real answers kind of androgynous. So I mean show it but I'm constantly thinking about Ferris Buehler's room posters. locklear. Poster. Yeah. He had like it's simple minds. Yeah. Me a lot of posters on. This is actually looking at that. We watch the begin doctors posters. A. Rossouw. Says how come when a white t man skips high school and they call Ferris Bueller stay off. But when I skipped in high school, I will send to truancy court. Very. Good question there as is you would a white t man is? You, White Team Currency Court Oh whitey man okay Whitey. White Guy. When he skipped school, he's he's assisting off. He gets a parade when he skipped school was the October. Fest Craig. That really wasn't there for him. He loves it though he just overtook. Wait a minute exactly half like like all my people. My. Tober. Fest, parade at the end of the school. I question that. I just pushing that now, and it can easily be anything to that Nice German restaurant over. Yes speaking of fat every day they're. Like people come in and play music great food remember the name of the restaurant but you know. It's not the one up in in. Across. The street from like block away from a theater is it up in Lincoln Square? I don't even know if it's still there but they have this little. German bar where you can literally get you and like. Four other people and they lineup they have a ski. And their shot glasses attached this. This is true. They had tried bosses attached the ski and they would like the shot and then you have to do the shot altogether you can do that in Orlando you can. We did it at the ice bar for me thirtieth birthday HM. Like, eight years ago. So do they wear October Fest Costume? But. Now if you want to do that, now you have to tape three skis together several six feet apart. Social Distance, from. From your friends you just take the ones in between. It's the Berghof restaurant. Adam street deny found October fest beer in the store. Already yeah. I was pretty excited. I didn't buy it. I have no money excited now I have no money no money. But I was like look October fast tuber fast, and I went through each for it and realized my money doesn't cover. says. There's never a time when Ferris Bueller Day off as a relevant discussion topic at one more Bailey Huckabee. Says the prayed scene in Ferris Buehler's Day office, one of the greatest movie of all time. There you go very definitive statement. Let's Let's go to the phones and I'm not gonNA trick jail this week. Let's just go straight to the prudhoe crawl ever. Trick me. We all know it's only ever Bruder. That's not true us. This is tough with this week today another great podcasts on the politics network. Dealers Day off. That is a fantastic movie is definitely a classic. It's one of my favorite movies of all time. Matthew. Broderick probably his death and I'm a big fan of his. He's done a bunch of great movies. But I haven't watched it in a few years but I'm sure hold up I'm sure if I went back and watched it I wanna enjoy just as much. There's so many quotable lines so many great teams It's just great from the beginning to the end. Absolutely love affairs dealers day. Stay off. had. Somebody else. had. A phone call wait a minute who was that? From Yeah exactly today. Pretty Beer from gravity beard we'll not anymore. Today but how much did you pay him because I need to know I didn't fight October? Do it. Well. Here's the thing. Gravity beard is now like they do a show like four times a year or something like that, and they do this week today instead every week they changed the did yeah. So it's like two different shows now. That would have been great to tell your end turns. I'm an enzyme pretend I didn't even know. This explains why they have so many interns. For their four big shows of the year. Well the face. Shows the same. The facebook group is still the same this week today and gravity bear both funnel into the same facebook group. But it's more of This week today is the main focus and then gravity beard is a special. Holiday Special Focus. I WanNa say thank you. For calling us because I'm tired of hearing. That's huge. I'm really excited to get a new phone call. Got One phone call it wasn't Bruder this is. Kind of tuning out a little bit. And then I realized that wasn't British voice. Yeah. That's great. Well, that just means that one of us now has to call this week today. We have any more phone calls at it. Let's. See only phone call we have. Even called. Decided to take this week off Oh. Oh. I really does Ferris buehler's. Day. Off because. I don't have a job. And also. My sister-in-law's just like Jennifer Gray. On a car. I am surprised to learn that breeder has a sister. And I WANNA know. IS A. Pre Nose Job Jennifer Creek. Or Post Nose Job Jennifer Gray Yeah. Because post nose job Jennifer. Gray didn't get any work. That's right except for that one. TV. Show where she played herself and made fun of the fact that she had noticed job and couldn't get work apparently era over that. She took all. Acting, it didn't relate to the nose job because her broderick had some sort of car crash. And then in Ireland he was driving on the wrong side of the road she decided to take. I think the MOM and the kid. Yeah. I was pretty horrific car crash so. Yeah I. Don't know I changed your dose and right then plus us like comic for her look. So why would you? Why would you change that? Nobody puts. The SARONG. Done that one yet. I can't make it through that movie without falling asleep. I've never seen dirty dancing really. Yeah. Really I grew up watching it lumieres the father it's true Jerry Orbach what movie did you put on the other day that never seen any movie I league of their own home? Watching it. Initially but you're saying, Hey, hey. Hey. He turns around the end should. Wait to clap Jimmy Dean. Wow. That's good. Advice Kid. That's what I told her. She's like this is Tom Hanks is a look at Tom Hanks. This is great. I loved he was the beginning time thing. He left and I was done I was like I'm good I'm good void the high ones I like the high ones you didn't give Tom Hanks chance to. Terrorists sober up. He was absolutely terrible and I could not want away his booze and they give them. Coca Cola say put him on Coke Yup. E Hansen although I did finally learn the. Marlow who's like. Oh That's All right. Let's go girls. But I've never seen that movie so she still has. Absolute favorites and I didn't I didn't remember that. The ballpark announcer was squeaky yes. Yes. She don't see him pop up very often. No No I. Hope you happy Dow. You get what you wanted. Yeah, well, because it was Penny Marshall was the first time that a female had ever directed such a hit and penny. Marshall, directed at. So she pulled in everybody from her past and stuff like that. They filmed it at Wrigley. Filmed it in the summer, the IVY's fully bloomed. At Frank, Marshall, isn't it though pretty cool too I. Forgot all the people. Gary Marshall, who's Frank Marshall? He. Should've done more stop. There is a Frank Marshall. Purchaser. So Lottie Dod, go look it up. I'm googling you're looking at up let's reopen the beer cooler. No No good a way. Way Mellowing away. Cool. All Right Laura? What do you think? What is this fear? What is the spirit? Hazy. Pale else? Oh yes. Called coded tiles. He really. Producer Joe Biden. From the lick beer project in Queens New York. This isn't a hazy. Paleo, you're right. I was thinking. Not good move at. All right you were right I I to. A photo genetic now foot of. Something memory but he's also done some really good movies but oh photo iconic. No. callback. What's your reading? So I don't like Paleo hops. or the from Buggy Buddha. From booed I say. That is true. I told the truth about the beer's from of the Paloma Goza from Cigar City was better than yeah funky Buddha. Time traveling with the fishbowl words about. Anyway. It smells very happy which is very off putting but I'm glad it didn't smell like mushy peas. It actually finishes rather nicely in my opinion I. Don't know of that's truth everybody. And I'M GONNA give it a four. Okay. Bad Sabrina going. You Know I. didn't like this now like that I'll give it a six. But I I, it finished it better than I thought it was going to do, and for that reason I'm giving it a four I think like my initial sip it wasn't that great cause is is hoppy but as I was drinking it throughout the show, I like paid attention to the finish and all of that, and it was pretty decent. Appreciate that. I forget about the finish after finishing you just finished it can't. But that was like ten minutes ago you just took. I watched it. I tried to find some more but it was empty. Chris never finishes. The next. Four. You may be surprised I actually don't mind. Ales. I like them. A did finish clean. I did not taste any of the flavors that said it was on the candidates. And say, happy. So if I had more flavor to it, I would have given it a higher score, but I'm giving it a five. Close Tries that we you know supreme. To begin with. But it's more entertaining that way. Six. Can drunk beer. It's six. Louis Seltzer. I I. Didn't like the first like half. But I powered through and I finished it in the Niger of Christmas. I it's not one that I could just sit down and down them like my husband. It wasn't me. Hey. Drink beer. Actual quote or using quotes in the air air quotes around. During my beer, it's yeah. I didn't get any of the supposed to. Taste like hops with maybe a little pine I don't know. Well, it might make me Evergreen. I'm not sure. You'll have some color to you. Nice change for once. No, it was it like once you get to halfway mark it's it's a fairly smooth beer. Four drink four or More. Like Yeah. It's malone off like. Clean I drink four, and then I'd be like. Oh. Yeah. Like John It's four. Yeah I mean, I'm feeling pretty good after one in. The eighty percent really. Yeah. Yeah. But this is the tallest candidates. Sixty five percent per pint now, twelve ounces for this pint is five percent. The extra hops or something. Yeah. Because I feel it too. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm sitting here in like Oh my mind is doing things that shouldn't be right now that's normal. All right beer master you know I. I made a face got very dry bitterness to it upon I. Like the of you, I'm not getting any of that like mango grapefruit. Fruit tastes that they say it's all hop is very happy but it's like a dry hop which pales typically they're dry hops one this time. But overall I thought it had a nice clean finish great drink ability. I could easily do five. It's a very balanced Pale and. It's just I. SIP is very deceiving because you just I don't know when you read the description of what it's supposed to be catches you off guard because that was not what I tasted at all. Yeah I mean the labels a total six like Chris said, it's awesome I mean that's the main reason I bought it was because I thought the label looked really neat and I was like Chris is GonNa love this label it's almost they could put any flavor on the outside of the can yeah. Yeah. For those that can't see the label. Unless you website, it is very much like a Chinese Dragon New Year's Dragon. But it's definitely it's like eighty graffiti spray paint style like, yeah. Real. Really Nice Bunch of mismatch along the background and then led dragon is really on the forefront. Noticed that the name of the beer is in the dragon now it's Taio. Yeah. Like it's written in the Dragon twice he's written on the dragon written on the Dragon twice you'd be dragging after six of these. I would be very being five percents. I think it's a very deceptive five percent as I feel it and a lot of beers we do that I don't feel now I mean I'm not feeling it but I mean I'm used to drinking stuff that has like a seven percent seven point five percent but there are a few years that are like five percent and stuff like that like Sierra Nevada's Pale is one that doesn't have like a tremendous high ABC like it is like it's like a five point five or something like that, and that one always seems to get to me. Maybe. It's the drier roast ones eighty that just keep the alcohol in their longer that hits you a little differently like after two of these I wouldn't be going anywhere. I know you got your Uber coming for you. That's a future. I think it's It's it's good. The description does not do it justice at all like but overall great great drink ability really like it. Five excellent well Sabrina. What's the Info you can join us on facebook and our official PODCASTS, forty, two group page. We've got a lot of fun stuff going on there. A lot of content that people post up that aren't on the show. So that's fun and exciting. You can email us our email address is podcast forty to show at. gmail.com. We love receiving emails from people, questions, comments, concerns, all of the above we like to read those website is podcast forty show dot wordpress dot com that gives you a listing of all of our beer cooler. A little section on there for jails beer cooler. It's all over episode Guide Info about the show the beers we drank and and all that fun stuff. You can call her taxes just like toasted this week, which is fantastic and everybody call us. New Voices on our. appreciated. either. You have called in the past but you can keep calling. Do, it was really exciting for us to hear somebody other than pruder. router. It sounds like. I mean one of my favorite people. Yeah. It's like brutal records it in the closet when he doesn't want anyone else like r Kelly, he's trapped in the closet. That's When I hear, Bruder. That's what I hear or the sewing room. We do enjoy your phone calls and walks themselves in the sewing room. It's I've been looking. But you can't give. That number is something seven, two, seven, two, three, eight, Fifty, eight, eighty, seven, seven, two, seven, two, three, eight, Fifty, eight, Eighty, seven. That's a phone number and not dollar amounts just. To clarify what those numbers actually were. We didn't pay growth. That's right. You can join us on our patriarch page. We'd love to have some patrons on there, and of course, I needed by Albany's bears. Missing them since I have been furloughed we are part of the pod fixed network, and then obviously you can find us on spotify apple music speaker tune in if you found us in our listening to US congratulations. Good job and continue to listen on that platform. Artwork is by cute panda. D-, Cute Panda for missions on facebook and our theme music by Kramer Find More Music on Kramer Dot net. Did I forget anything this week. So. Well, then I am Christopher devolves Sabrina Pierre Jail Tros I am Laura and have you had liked to contribute to my Albany Fund please message me. I. Will Give You my address to send them to me. I would appreciate it I am missing mega mirrors. Stay I used bikes. Conversations are events the one hundred percent accurate as if you didn't figure that out already. Things are shaver. Deleted for the sake of attempted comedy. All sources or never verified all information it's. Lightly get. In other words. We are having the. Thank you lifts name. This has been a transmission of the pod fix network. For, more about this show and other great PODVIG programs go to pot fix network dot com. Adams here adamantly here at a mouse sqi. Adamson here Adler. Anderson. Anderson here. Bueller. Buehler. Buehler. Buehler. He's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from the sky. Who knows this kid is going with the gross affairs passed out at thirty one flavors last night. I. Guess. It's pretty serious. Simone no problem whatsoever.

John Cusack Sabrina Ferris Buehler Cameron Allen Matthew Broderick Jeanie Jennifer Gray Chicago Ferris Bueller Troth Laura Chris John Hughes Matthew Jeannie Ferris Jeffrey Jones Ferris Hollywood Ben Stein Mr Rooney John It RIM Paul McCartney
06/26/2021  Straight Outta Vegas with Bernie Fratto

Straight Outta Vegas with RJ Bell

46:39 min | 4 months ago

06/26/2021 Straight Outta Vegas with Bernie Fratto

"Are you ready to take that next. Step in your career. But don't know where to start at johns hopkins carey business school. Uncover your business. Potential through world class faculty immersive learning opportunities and a legacy of innovation explore our mba and specialized masters and learn how you can join a network of global business leaders who sees opportunity inspire change and create lasting value. Built for what's next with carey business school. Learn more about our in person and online programs at carey dot j. H u dot edu slash explore dash kerry. Here's something good. From the seneca women podcast network. An iheartradio is great. Way to start your day on the positive side of life brought to you in partnership with bounty paper towels. check out our episode on home hygiene. It has excellent advice from a doctor who's an infectious disease specialist and you'll also get some great cleaning tips from bounty paper towels the not only make leaning more convenient but they also leave your surfaces theater than used dishcloths and they're disposable for great advice tips. Listen to the. here's something. Good podcast on the iheartradio app apple. Podcasts were get your podcast fox sports well as i've said many times to four sports or the greatest reality show invented and you can script everything but the outcome. That's why this time of year is so much fun. Just looking at how. That sons clippers game ended my goodness you. You saw a lot of nerves. You saw combination of fatigue. Great defense shots really not falling feeding san thirty six second-half points still one no field goals in the last three minutes and thirty seconds of the game and still won by the way the clippers no field goals in the last five minutes of the game. No movie director would have scripted that inning. That's what keeps us watching on that note. Welcome back to another award. Winning edition of straight out of the weekend adaptation. I'm bernie fratto. We're coming to you. Live from the las vegas fox sports radio studios tonight. I'm going to take a closer look. At why i think this use. Nba playoffs have been particularly interesting. And frankly exciting if somewhat inartful at times but as a follow last week when i highlighted the you know the way some teams were eliminated and the way teams survived. We're gonna talk about a catalyst. And what i what i've identified is. What may be a predictor is to who will win this thing by the way last week. High chronicle what. I believe the top five. Nfl teams who had the best offseason in terms of their effort to create a winner tonight. I'm going to chronicle the top three worst-off seasons as the nfl remains in the conversation. After bruin finley's update. We'll talk about the latest story swirling around las vegas including the oakland a.'s. Brass coming back. Lie eighth for their third visit in a month. While i'm gonna talk about why. I think that may be a little less leading Later in the show and we're going to check in with number six our series of fifteen scheduling quirks in the nfl. As much march down we marched toward an nfl. You know regular season by the way. I will also talk about the largest liability that the sportsbooks have all of a sudden based on bet a certain guy whose name has been in the news more than once and this should be the biggest payout in las vegas history. According to william hill if he cashes alex plain. Also there's a certain nba team. That's kind of caught the attention. Now that the lakers and nets are eliminated. There's a team. Now that these vegas sports books are just a little nervous about. I'll share that in that for nothing. We're not far away from the the legendary in the famous west gate contests super contest the once. The physique won back to back years. There's new changes this year. More chances to win. And they've even reduced the entry fee gonna give all those details and And much much more tonight. Sports are entertainment. They're more than that. Though in. you know there are shared experience. Such people wanna talk about them. You've come to the right place. We've got a lot to talk about tonight. This is straight outta vegas pre-game show you always wanted. And i seen joe mauer minnesota. It's going to be lit all right which famous nba player is attributed to the following quote quote. I've missed more than nine thousand shots in my career. And i've lost almost three hundred games twenty six times. I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and indeed i filled over and over and over again and in those twenty six times i missed and that's why i succeed. A guy you may have heard of his name was michael jordan. Look it's a whole new ballgame this year in the nba. Right and i say that. Because every day in america a new star is born and it's time for new merge. It's no longer the kt lebron steph league. This is not an aberration. we're moving on. They may win another championship again. But there's new young turks trae jaanus gotta through paul. George now chris. Paul is never one. Is it his. Turn or devon booker right. That's why i'm so interested in these playoffs because there are new storylines seen enough. I've seen enough. And for just a second time since the nba aba merger in the first time since nineteen ninety four. Neither number one see made the conference finals and the four contenders that are alive. Have one combined to championships and they both came decades ago. The milwaukee bucks one thousand hundred seventy one and the hawks one in one thousand nine hundred fifty eight when they were based in saint louis but these teams who've made it to the conference finals. They deserved it. Why because he exhibited mental toughness look no further than mental toughness. Because that is what is carried the day in this tournament. That has become a different brand of basketball. It is now. Officially a war of attrition look no further than mental toughness. That's what's carrying the day and it always has for great athletes and teams who find a way to make the jump to the next level. The mental mindset is more powerful than anything else that you'll bring to the floor of the court the ice human beings. You can't quantify mental toughness. But you could recognize. It may golfing great. Arnold palmer once said quote. My father always said to me. Remember whatever game you. Play ninety percent success from the shoulders up famed. Nfl football coach vince. Lombardi used to say quote. Mental toughness is to success. You've got to be mentally tough. Mental toughness is many things in difficult to explain because it's qualities are born of sacrifice and self denial also most importantly. It's combined with perfectly disciplined. Will that refuses to give in. It's a state of mind. You call it character. Action think lombardi knows a thing or two about mental toughness champions are made in the gym. According to mohammed ali champions are made from something they have deep inside them a desire a dream a vision. Everybody's got the skill and some have the will but the will must be stronger than the skill by the way after. Tom brady won his seventh super bowl champions championship. He was asked what makes him or his team. Special his answer's simple mental toughness now. Psychologists have define mental toughness for athletes is having the natural or develop psychological edge that enables you to generally cope better than your opponents with the many demands that competition training lifestyle that a sport places on a performer. Specifically can you be more consistent and better with your opponents or better than your opponent. Excuse me in remaining determined and focused and confident and keeping under control win pressure. Erupts pressure brings fear. Fear totally mental pictures of what you don't want to happen. How do you block that out perform. Now you're not a trend here. Most people attribute mental toughness to just elite athletes disagree. Being mentally tough can apply to anyone in any profession and it's been defined as a measure of individual resilience and confidence that predict success in manly sports but education and even in the workplace mental. Toughness is keeping everything together when everyone expects you to fall apart. Mental toughness grows in the moments. When you think you can't go on but you keep going anyway because anybody can give up but to hold it together when everyone else would understand if you just fell. Apart that is maturing mental toughness mental. Toughness comes into play when the going gets tough and achievements certainly are far more rewarding when you have to really work hard and grant for something right. John wooden once said pressure causes some people to break others to break records. So i've boil it down to three players that are remaining in this tournament and of these three the one that can display the most mental toughness. And have that permeate across his entire roster. They're going to be the ones to win the lawrence brand trophy by the way the updated odds boxer plus one ten basically even money to win the whole in chilanga the sensor plus one fifteen. The hawks atlanta hawks twelve to one. The clippers are now twenty. Two these are updated odds after tonight's result between the sons in the clippers but look no further than these three players. Yes they're skilful. They're clever but their game is rooted mental toughness. Give it up the chris paul before this series and member. He missed the first two games of this series and his team managed to win both of them. He's averaging twenty six points a game. He shooting sixty three percents from the field. Seventy six percent from the line by the way. I think he's now made about thirty five free throws in a row. He's averaging ten assists per game he's shipping and five rebounds a game he's still getting steals and these are frankly absurd numbers especially when you consider the intensity level. That comes in a postseason series. Chris paul has frankly taken over some games for the mid rage and he basically torched denver's defense inside outside. He created some very uncomfortable binds for their defense the adjusted in the denver series. They couldn't team to make adjustments to stop. Chris paul he himself made more mid-range jumpers twenty two of them then the entire nuggets team fifteen bring denver up because that series is over now granted. I understand the clippers are down three to one. But it's not over yet. So i've got to deal with the here and the now but in the closeout game against denver chris paul had thirty seven points and he had twenty seven points in the game before that and he also spectacular because in game two which was a huge game he had not only fifteen assisted. Zero turnovers moreover. If you've observed. Chris paul in these playoffs. He's been the absolute picture of poise. This is a guy who's never won. And he's a lot of pressure and there was always a perception that paul which is coming to the sons to be a mentor mel. He's basically put the team on his back and he's made everybody else around him. Yes he has set a tone of professionalism and culture. And i think he's helped to enhance the performance of a young team. Who had one eight nine. The bubble last year but he showed just in the denver series alone that he's at a different level. Mental toughness. i think. Chris chris paul has it in spades. Just no question. There's no adjustment he hasn't been able to solve and he's the safety net that the sons have needed particularly in the second. Half the game when it matters. Most you made some clutch free. Throws he's made phoenix the favorite right next to the bucks you cannot. You cannot have this conversation without mentioning trae young. He has showed a competitive stamina and a will to win and unlimited energy. And you know in case you missed it. Trae young has now become a bona fide. Closer and in the series. You know all the playoff games in atlanta in which atlanta has been games have been decided by five points or fewer young has been down the stretch and every one of them and you know with the nba talks about clutch situations with final five minutes to go the score within five points. This is when he's been on his best and head again again. The series isn't over yet. They're just getting going. Milwaukee atlanta atlanta's a four point. Home dog tomorrow kind of like them. But trae young's average twenty nine points a game. he's field goal percentage has been about forty percent. He's thirty three percent from behind the arc ten assists he'll rebound he'll steal had a rough game lifetime out but this is a kid who's incredibly mentally tough and he's defied the scouts who said that he wasn't big enough. He was questionable on defense. We don't know how durably be. He's playing tons of minutes. he creates his own. Shot off the bounce. Trae young has been incredible. And he's created matchup nightmares for the teams that he's faced the third person in the conversation. You have to mention yada. I get it the still out basically honest for many folks including me but i wanna maintain some objectivity you give credit. Where credit's due yachts. At at the conclusion around two again he stats have been superb. Thirty two points a game shooting almost fifty nine percent from the field. He always used twenty five percent from behind the arc for the life of me. I don't know why he insist on shooting three pointers. Still would this out four assists a game but he's rebounding as well it to the tune of thirteen it'll even block a shot now and then this z. Opportunity for jaanus to finally silences critics. Will he be billing tough to do it on a tough enough to do it. Now with mill was milwaukee's backs against the wall. After falling down. Three two two to brooklyn in the wake of durant's incredibly game five to forty nine point game which seems like i guess now. Remember all antenna coupon did that night was for thirty points and seventeen rebounds and he led the bucks to the win in game six and then go for forty points thirteen rebounds five assists and played fifty minutes in game seven including scoring over durant. Tie the game with about a minute to go in overtime. So we've got to give credit where credit's due. In retrospect when beyond the greek freak was aggressive and attack mode as he wasn't game six and seven the brooklyn nets had no answer for him and in those moments he proved at least in spots. He could be unstoppable. You know which you know. A which makes his occasional penchant for insisting on shooting a little three point jumpers all the our maddening jaanus is most effective when he tax and he was an attack mode at the right moments against brooklyn but again. It's back to mental toughness. How do you respond after failure. How will trae young tomorrow if he gets off to a rough start. How will chris. Paul fair in a closeout game or devon booker for that much gave him honorable mention here. And how will you honest do tomorrow as the bucks have a chance to take the lead in the series and win a road game back to michael jordan. Remember they all go in. Just ask michael jordan. He knows a thing about winning championships and a lot of times. It's not what happens. It's how you react. And it's how that affects the rest of your team and that's where this thing called mental toughness become so important in. Maybe the predictor as to who the new nba champion will be this year. Discover matches all the cash back you earn on your credit card at the end of your first year. It's amazing because discovers accepted at ninety nine percent of the places in the us the take credit cards learn more at discover dot com slash. Yes twenty twenty one nielsen report. Limitations apply covered up last week. I talked about the five. Nfl teams that. I thought had the worst. Nfl off-season tonight. I'm just going to boil it down to three. You're right dan. Tennessee was one of the top five checked at houston. But we don't do. We really need to talk about houston. Everybody knows that. But i've got teams. And i guarantee you two of them you might not have thought of who had the worst off-season heading into twenty twenty one. I'm coming to you. Live from las vegas fox. Sports radio studios. This is the pre-game show. You always want it so don't go away. You're listening to straight outta vegas. The great bernie fratto fox sports radio has the best sports talk lineup. In the nation and catch all of our shows at fox sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen live fades ban host of the fifth hour with ben. Maller along with my trusty sidekick david guest. God would mean a lot to have you join us weekly. Auditory journey dress one. In god's name is the fifth hour. I'll tell you it's a spin off of the ben maller show a cult hit overnights on fsr. Why should you listen picture if you will a world where we chat with captains of industry in media sports and more every week explore so amazing facts about human nature and more. Let's in the fifth hour with ben maller or the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast are full of decisions. Like play ads or skip while the market turn. Should i change jobs. What's the best school ken. My diet out the climate and what's a flexible -tarian at the wall street journal. We know how important decisions are. It's why we mind every source every document. Every data point we verify every tip every sound byte every fact to provide you with accurate reporting and insight without bias or agenda so that whenever you have a decision to make you have the trusted information you need to make it decisions to find our lives. trust yours visit wsj.com slash. Podcast offer to start reading for fifty percent off. Here's something good. From the seneca women podcast network and iheartradio is a great way to start your day on the positive side of life. We bring you inspiration advice and practical ideas. So here's something good for today. Brought to you in partnership with don and swiffer. Did you know that when couples share household chores their relationships get better research from dawn. Swiffer shows that couples are happier and they feel closer to their partner when tasks are divided. It's called closing the gap and to find out why it's so effective. We talked to psychiatrist. Dr gail saltz. Dr sauce also tells us how to have the conversations that lead to a better distribution of tasks for her great advice plus tips on how to make choices easier. Listen to the. Here's something good podcast on the radio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast back straight on a vegas debris game show. You always wanted. I'm bernie fratto coming to you. Live from las vegas fox. Sports radio studios. I want to remind you discover matches all the cash back you earn on your credit card at the end of your first year. It's amazing because discovers accepted ninety nine percent of places in the us take credit cards. Learn more at discover dot com slash. Yes twenty twenty one. Neilson report limitations. Apply before i get to the top three in my humble opinion. Nfl teams who had a very rough off season. I want to get to number six of fifteen in nfl scheduling quirks workers. Maybe not the appropriate moniker here. But we're going to run with it anyway. The jaguars jacksonville jaguars. Coach marvin meyer. Well they face. The new york jets in week sixteen. So what's the significance of that. That means there's a possibility we'll see the number one overall pick in the twenty twenty one nfl draft. That would be jacksonville's trevor lawrence square off against the number two overall pick. That would be new. York sack wilson. So of both quarterbacks start that day it would only be the fourth time in. Nfl history that two rookie. Qb starting quarterbacks selected first and second overall faced each other times the first time back in nineteen ninety-three when drew bledsoe faced off against notre. Dame's rick mirer dribbling out of washington state peyton manning versus ryan leaf also washington state in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight and then just back in two thousand fifteen jameis winston faced off against marcus mariota. I bet you didn't know they went number one and number two. That might be kind of cool. If it happens in week sixteen it would be i guess. What late december. And we'll just we'll just have to see what happens so there's that all right. I know this is probably heresy. But i'm going to start with the las vegas raiders as a team that i do not think had a good offseason by the way they did hire a new defensive coordinator gus bradley. But he's also got. He's got problems to take care of me. But here's what i think. Went wrong for the raiders in the offseason right so they did sign jahic enoch way and they also send john brown it got. They got a both for you. Know relative bargains but the raiders inexplicably hand. Kenyan drake a two year eleven million dollar contract to serve as a second you know running back alongside their first round. Pick josh jacobs if you tie up five millions living for two years for a second string running back. Why las vegas the raiders also for whatever reason dismantle one of the league's most impressive offensive lines. This this last year by trading away free agent edition. Trent brown their star center rodney hudson and had a homegrown guard by the name of game jackson. All for just mid to late round picks the team also used a first round pick on alex leatherwood to help replace the losses. And i'm not gonna you know. I like me back and i'm just going to quote other public sources. They had regarded the alabama tackle as an overdraft number. Seventeen many of them thought he was the second rounder fine. Whatever we'll see we'll see if it works out. I guess but they already had a good offensive line the team you know maybe the more insight into prospects than we do where everybody else does. But the problem is the raiders have a recent track record with draft picks in they deserve the benefit of the doubt. So the gus bradley coming over. His new defensive coordinator was regarded. As one of the league's most promising defensive coaches when he took over jacksonville eight years ago. But the problem is is defense has ever been consistent. And they've always had to regress at. He's had town to work with by the way when gus bradley was with the chargers his defenses ranked tenth in each of his first two years then they failed to twenty fifth and twentieth over the past two seasons. Is that good. And he's jags. Defense ranked in the top half of the league just once in four years and they improve the season after he was fired. You know somebody. I know that is smarter than me. Thought the raiders should made a play for maybe wade phillips a real turnaround expert. All right. I don't think the raiders had a good off there over under total by the way a seven and a half and people are putting the under and it's a seventeen game season. We shall see well. Obviously i don't think you can see the green bay packers ever get off season to unless you've been living on mars. Aaron rodgers do not seem particularly enthused. The idea playing for the team and he has stopped short of requesting a trade but he sulking in public and this is the situation. They've got to work out in. The clock is ticking. Right but beyond rogers frankly roster. It's getting a little thinner. Their offensive line is rebuilding kind of on the fly because david he has to recover from tornadoes. El and they've got a gentleman by the name of elton jenkins taking snaps at left tackle. And as knows your blindside guy you better hope he works out and the packers added another option a corner with their first rounder. Eric stokes but most people wanted to see offense. Look the the packers are the nigga twenty six and six two. I two years which is sensational under the floor. They go to the nfc championship game. Both of those two years. Very close to give you the super bowl and they find themselves in this state of flux and there's in this offseason that would inspire confidence among the green bay faithful. Finally a team. That i think always has my respect as a historic you know longtime performer. The pittsburgh steelers all right. Well they did not have a good season either offseason either because they had to eat what i would call their financial vegetables and watch a great player but duprey and mike he'll leave for free agency and the organization is also moved on from steven nelson. Cornerback that has gone from being one of the teams big strengths. Now quarterback is one of pittsburgh's thinners position just to lay third round pick and twenty one thousand nine. He's only played one hundred defensive snaps in his first two seasons. He might have to be one of the team's top two quarterbacks this year and offensive lines also a mess so they lose marquees policy to retirement and matfield. All alone have moved on free agency. Ben rothlisberger isn't getting any younger. So pittsburgh's defense. Frankly has regressed at least on paper and so has their offensive line. Be that as it may. Mike tomlin always seems to. Have you know good seasons especially when they follow disappointing ones and the reason. I say it was disappointing. Because one point the steelers were undefeated and then they really finished weekly and went down in a heap and lost to cleveland in the playoff game and the most embarrassing fashion you know. These things are speculative in terms of my opinion having to do with who had a bad off season. But if you didn't necessarily make the effort to get better which is all this what this is about. An you make what you would would would people would consider to be head-scratching decisions that on paper bear explanation. That don't seem to correlate towards the team getting better winning more games next year you gotta call him out. So look between green bay. Pittsburgh and the raiders. Two of the three. Maybe all three make the playoffs. I don't know but if this if this offseason is any indication you can't say that the future looks particularly bright. Based on what we know now on june twenty-sixth coming up. I got a whole bunch of stuff. The oakland a.'s. Brasses coming back to town on july. The oakland a.'s. Moving to las vegas plus. Oh i've got stuff involving the nba and mattress mac and the west gate super contests. We're gonna get to all of it but first let's go to the man. He so resilient he wants got bit by a rattlesnake it after five days of excruciating pain. The rattlesnake died france family with the latest. I love that birdie. Thank you so much. The sons were. They probably have rattlesnakes in phoenix in that area. Deliver in eighty four to eighty gut punching to the clippers to stay three games to one lead in the western conference finals. The clippers went over twelve in the fourth quarter with an opportunity to tie or grab the lead. Paul george five of twenty from the floor. One of nine from long range finished with twenty three points but the shooting miscues fell on both sides. the squad's collectively missed sixteen straight shots in the fourth period. The clips went five of thirty one from long range in the game. The sun's four of twenty from distance in thirty six percent from the field and la shot a mind numbing inconceivable. Sixty six percent from charity. Stripe phoenix was north of eighty in that category in devon booker ripped off his mask mid game. Twenty five points for him but He went over five from long range. This story deondraye eight. Nineteen points twenty two rebounds in for blocks and after the game. He bragged about himself on. There's another level. I reached the next. I really need to be a disc. Physical incapacity comes to compete. Afterwards chris paul seemingly working as aden's hype man said quote to see his growth. I get goosebumps. I generally love him. Phoenix gonna get him a bag. This summer clothes quo in baseball. The giants manufacturer to runs in the bottom of the tenth inning to stick to the athletic sixty five. The bottom feeding diamondbacks crushed the padres. Ten to one two. Ncaa goes eight game winning streak. The red sox side swiped the yankees for to boston is five. And against the yanks. This season cody bellinger swats a walk off solo home run to lift the dodgers over the cubs. Three to two in the astros in tigers split a doubleheader with that. Let's get back to a man who has never done the splits. Or maybe he has. Its bernie fratto a banana split there. We go we'll go with that again. Folks are the tones. The silver tunnel. Brian finley bruin philly. All right by the way grew quickly. I i really should interject this. Because now that the enforcement for the spider tech better grip phenomenon is well underway. Before june third the cumulative batting average major leaguers is to thirty six actually. He's been a slight uptick now hitting two forty-seven whoop de doo. Opsec's up to seven thirty five. The strikeout rates down one percent and the fastball slider spin rate is down stay tuned. I'm sure you'll be on the edge of your seat. But i gotta tell you. We are seeing historic jacob. Degrom his point. Five era in twelve starts this season tied for the second lowest era in any twelve starts band within a season since earn on average became an official stat. Bob gibson did it in nineteen sixty eight. That was the year the pitcher. And if you recall Pity mounds were fifteen inches above ground. They were lowered to ten. I'd be curious to see if baseball adjustments but look degrom to sign awards in two thousand eighteen and twenty nine thousand nine and look what he's doing this year all right sticking with baseball ever so quickly. The oakland a.'s. Have visited las vegas twice because if they don't get a stadium in oakland the commissioners encourage them to look elsewhere. And i think portland's on the list montreal's on the list nationals on the list but vegas apparently as their first choice whether coming back to town. July eighth in ninth in. This'll be the third visit since the beginning of june. And they're doing their due diligence. They just left. Arlington texas to look at the retractable roof. And how that was built. Because that's they're going to have to do that here. Which to me is going to be a real hell of a political football. It's a it would be a billion dollars to build a stadium that you know that you've got you're going to need probably at least half public money half private money which means tax payers etc. I don't know if las vegans got the appetite for that. What we'll see. What do i really think is happening here seriously. All right. i'm just going to say. I think this is a leverage play. Why would they come. Visit three times before july twentieth. When the vote for the The the waterfront stadium will take place on july twentieth. I think it's the leverage play and the still have through to twenty twenty four as an obligation with their current stadium so look stay tuned. We got hockey here. We've got the raiders here. Could major league baseball happened. We not anytime soon but you just you just never know. I'll tell you what is happening. We hill took a bet this past week that by their own. Admission is the largest wager terms of what the path potentially could be and in the history of las vegas sports books. Now he's back. You know him as mattress. Mac his real name is jim mcconville. He's a seventy year old gentleman whose ads in houston quite a guy in key. Pleased to two million dollar wager to win twenty million dollars on the houston astros at ten to one to win. The world series. Way hill confirmed this last week. Interestingly enough the bet was not made here in las vegas. It was actually made in indiana on an app and the sports book. This is where we're at now with legalize. Sports betting is is pretty cool stuff but again to repeat. William hill is confirmed that this would be a possible. Twenty two million dollar payout. He'd get his two in back. Plus the twenty million dollars. That'd be the largest reported payout in sports betting history barn on all right the nba team that the sportsbooks are now slightly nervous about are the atlanta hawks with the lakers and nets out of the picture and the lake basically the books just about guaranteed themselves a free rule for the play offs and less because all the dead money that was placed on the lakers starting in october and continuing in less the atlanta hawks finished the job and right now. They're twelve to one they could anything could happen as i said the top of the show a new star is born every day. Why not the hawks. Well they're the biggest liability remaining for several las vegas sports books with danny bets. Some high six figures and even one worth one point five million the west gate to bets totaling seventy five hundred and nine hundred thousand in april in may when atlanta was considered more of a fringe contender and back. Then they were about a twenty five to one favourite whether down at twelve to one south. But that's only because milwaukee you're getting it's it's a situation where milwaukee looks like. They've taken control. But if there's one thing we've learned to expect the unexpected bed. Mgm also confirmed that they took a ten thousand dollar wager to win a million and a half on the hawks to win the title. One hundred fifty to one. That means that would be one point. Five million we have held said it also took a five thousand dollar bet to win five hundred thousand back when the hawks one hundred to one and later five thousand three hundred dozen at sixty two one at it all up and it's well into the seven figures in terms of liability. Will it happen. The odds are against it but it could happen and the books have their eyes on that coming up. I wanna talk about the west gate super contest. There's a bit of a shake-up in a good way. The contest evolves coming out of couvert. They've made some changes more opportunities to win less money to join up and i wanna give some quick observations about tonight's sons clippers game and how it's becoming a metaphor for the playoffs in what i have called last year. You remember how. I joked around. And i call it the hotel california ploughs and the bubble because you could check in but you can never leave. I'm calling this year. It's a war of attrition and if you watch the last five minutes in that game tonight it was painful. But i think it's an indicator as to who might prevail over the next two weeks based on who has the competitive stamina and the mental toughness to get the job done. I'm bernie fratto. I'm coming to you. Live from the las vegas fox sports radio studios keep it locked right here. This is the pre game show. You always want to don't go away here. Listening to straight out of ace. Got one of the best in the business bernie fratto. Are you ready to take that next. Step in your career. But don't know where to start at johns hopkins carey business school. Uncover your business. Potential through world class faculty immersive learning opportunities and a legacy of innovation explorer our mba and specialized masters and learn how you can join a network of global business leaders who sees opportunity inspired change and create lasting value. Built for what's next with carey business school. Learn more about our in person and programs at carey dot j h u dot edu slash explore dash kerry. Here's something good from the seneca women podcast network and iheartradio is a great way to start your day on the positive side of life. We're bringing you inspiration advice and practical ideas. So here's something good for today. Brought to you in partnership with bounty paper towels. Wanna feel better about your home home. That not only looks clean but is clean and safe. Then check out our episode on home hygiene. It has excellent advice from a doctor who's an infectious disease specialist. And you'll also get some great cleaning tips from bounty paper towels. They not only make leaning more convenient but they also leave your surfaces thinner than used dishcloths and they're disposable for great advice and tips. Listen to the here's something. Good podcast on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Wherever you get your podcast back straight out of the pre game show. You always wanted. I'm bernie fratto comes alive for the las vegas fox sports radio studios and yes. We s- closely feature motown bumper. Music discovery batches all the cash. Back you earn on your credit card at the end of your first year. It's amazing because discovers accepted at ninety nine percent of the places that take credit cards learn more at discover dot com slash. Yes twenty twenty. One nielsen report limitations. Apply before we go any further tonight. I want to thank my broadcast team back in los angeles. That would be brian. Finley chris perfect and of course bullpens turning all the dials keeping us glued together doing the updates and all the behind the scenes thing that enables us to bring this show to a grateful nation. Thanks so much guys and quick programming note. I will be back on these airwaves tomorrow night five. Pm pacific to eight pm hosting with cotino. Moberly and boy. Do we have a lot to talk about. We've got great guests. We're gonna bring you up to date on things happening in the nfl and in major league baseball and certainly the nba playoffs. And i've got a couple of feature oriented items. I think you might getting kickoff including a big project. Leads is coming out with that. I think is long overdue. That's going to honor an athlete. Who came under fire during the nineteen sixty eight olympics. You will want to hear what that's about before. I get to the changes in the west gate super contest which are very important. It's considered one of the most prestigious contests anywhere in the world guy. J carnegie who's the sportsbook director over at the west gate east the hilton super consciousness. The west coast super contest. I would just say this. He's made a lot of what. I consider very innovative changes. That only make it easier to enter but also more opportunities to win. I'm gonna get to that in a minute but i. I watched the phoenix clippers game tonight and i want to preface by saying. I'm very much enjoying these. Nba playoffs all right The kt lebron steph league. it may be gone. How do we know. But this opens the door for trae. Jaanus paul george. Still chris paul. Who's never won tr- devon booker. But i've called it the war of attrition because people aren't healthy and what i saw tonight is which really contributed contribute. They made sure that to get an english folks which really contributed to a lower scoring game. What i saw was fatigue assault. Good defense very good. Defense shots simply dropping phoenix. Thirty six second-half points still one. No field goals for the phoenix suns. The last three minutes and thirty seconds still one clippers zero field goals in the last five minutes and they got to be the fourth quarter clutch time crunch time. Both teams combined three thirteen field goals. The sons were one of five and the clippers to eight. is it nerves. He's it physical fatigue. Is it metal fatigue. Whatever it is. The result was is the game wound down. I saw teams. That were indecisive. Both of them. They held the ball too long over dribbling. I think that you know there was self-induced pressure. The ball fell heavier. And it was a very ugly offensive game but still credit phoenix. They won sort of my recurring motif. Mental toughness is going to get done this year. Who's going to have it all right. The west gate super contest has been around a long time as he originally was the hilton super contest. And you've probably heard me say it. Many times steve. Who joins me on the show. During football season the only two time winner wanted back to back so it's very prestigious. People enter from literally all around the world. You have to enter in vegas. You have to show your. Id you have to give your social security number. You have it have to have to know it's you but you can. You can personally enter up to two or three times. I've to double check that for sure at least twice and a and if you don't have to live here because there are plenty of very reputable proxy services that will get your picks in for you every week and frankly most people to win contests don't win here and catis. Winter's come from all walks of life. We recently had a starbucks. barista win. so let's become what. I what i call sort of the american idol for sports football contests who football contests. I don't yesterday handicapping contests but what you deal. Law of large numbers. Somebody always manages to go seventy five percent to anything. That's unheard of all right. So here's the deal the cutting price. The west gate is cutting the price of the super contests and they're expanding the number of ways to win. Here's the lowdown super contest. You only have to pay a thousand to fifteen hundred and the competition itself will have nine in season contests to go along with the title to win the whole thing which now means basically because multiple payouts that if you win the overall first place your projected probably win about five hundred thousand wars. The last few years it's been over a million but the top three finishers will receive payouts and another thing this year super contest. Have three six week contests and six three week. Contests think about that fits the symmetrical because we now have an eighteen week schedule. Seventeen games but it's going to be played over eighteen weeks. Here's what's cool the six-week contests we'll have payouts. One hundred thousand fifty thousand ten five and twenty five hundred for the first fireplaces so look if you get off to a bad start you have a good six week period. You can still make yourself some coin. The three week contests will pay three spots at seventy five twenty five and five grand. The west gate also announced that it super contests weekend. We'll take place. August twenty seventh and twenty eighth and if you come out and join and play in the golf tournament. They'll be giving out ten free contest entries and it's a lot of fun and a good reason to cut out to las vegas yes the. Nfl is almost upon us and it stays in a news. That's going to do it for this week's edition a straight outta vegas. I'm bernie fratto next up. The man from nashville is name. Is jason martin. Keep it locked right here on fox. Sports radio people say. Treat yourself like you need a reason. But mcdonald's streets are perfect for everyday like bold. Mika say iced coffee get any size for a dollar sixty nine or pick up any size sweet tea for dollar. The largest served an insulated cup. That keeps her tea cold. Feeling a little extra something something. Try the classic bakery sweets like an apple fritter with so many ways to treat yourself. You don't need an excuse. just come back tomorrow. But up up. Prices and participation vary cannot be combined with any other offer or combo. Meal truth hounds is a new investigative podcast. One like you've never seen before well when like you've never heard before. Comedians real life friends anna sarah gina and kyle mazzone hold a humongous magnifying glass. To light smallest mysteries. There will be last. Ha ha ha. There will be tears. Why and there will be mysteries. What is that right over there. Oh it's my missing song. Iheartradio is number one for podcast. But don't take our word for it. Fine truth hounds. Iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

bernie fratto Nfl nba clippers las vegas Chris paul raiders devon booker gus bradley trae young Trae young denver jaanus ben maller johns hopkins carey business s carey business school dash kerry vegas michael jordan atlanta
658. Teams That Could Trade Into Top 10, Trey Sermon Joins, Players to Watch at Pro Days & Jabril Cox Interview

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

40:32 min | 7 months ago

658. Teams That Could Trade Into Top 10, Trey Sermon Joins, Players to Watch at Pro Days & Jabril Cox Interview

"And now move the sticks with daniel jeremiah and bookie brooks. What is up everybody. Welcome to move the sticks presented by castrol edge. Dj and bucky back with you and buck man. We've had a lot going on between free agency pro days. It's been a busy time here for us. It move sticks very busy time favorite time of year because football all of the time between free agency and prepping for the draft. There's so much football to discuss. We have got a big show. Coming up today bookings gonna have any one on one conversation with trae sermon. Very talented ohio state running back to talk about his journey that we're going to look at pro days that have taken place at the university of georgia and then look ahead to some big pro days on the horizon including zach. Wilson's pro day there at byu and then we're also going to do a little journey to the draft and that is with gebriel cox a linebacker who has had quite a journey from north dakota state to lsu to his future nfl home. So we've got a lot coming up on the show today but buck. I figure we start with what's going on in free agency. We've seen a bunch of these trades become official including the matthew stafford jared goff swapped and it looked like we almost had another big trade there. The reports came out that russell wilson highly sought after as you can imagine by the chicago bears. They put forth a hefty offer to try and lure him away from seattle to the windy city but seattle not biting. Dj if the reports are true where you're talking about three first round news roundup potentially two starters. That is a big load to give up for a franchise quarterback and i think what we're seeing now a couple of different things we're seeing franchise. Quarterbacks are now on the market and we're understanding how much a franchise quarterback can net and return. When you look at the matt stafford deal and jerry. Golfing number number one picks that were exchanging that deal and then the propose the reportedly proposed trade going to seattle. You understand but now that it's not done and you to seattle seahawks and russell. Wilson appears to be in the fode. There appears to be some physics. There need to be mended not only from the team to russell russell to his teammates and i just wonder how that works. Because when you have these reports that you had this dischord dnc off season. I just wondered particularly if we don't have normal mini camps and otas. How do you repair the chemistry. That has been fractured between the team. Yeah it's interesting going forward. I think when you go back to the trade off the tree that didn't happen. They ended up signing andy dalton which is really backup money. I don't think includes the bears for making another. Move there at the quarterback position. But it gets to my point when we talked about russell wilson into shawn watson potentially being moved buck. If you can't provide a replacement active position with a high draft. Pick or a substitute quarterback that i can plug in. I don't see how this conversation goes very far and that to me is what i took away from this. You could offer me three four or five first round picks but if these first round picks aren't located where i can get the next quarterback pete carroll seventy years old. He's he's gonna hope and cross his fingers he's gonna take somebody outside the top ten that's gonna hit. It just didn't make sense from seattle standpoint. No it doesn't make sense. But i think what does make sense this year. The seattle seahawks quarterback shopping. I would expect him to try and find a quarterback some way shape or form so they can move on from russell wilson next season. I just believed when there's smoke there's fire and the con- constant conversation and chatter that we've heard leads me to believe that this might be russell's final season up in the pacific northwest. I definitely feels like it's. It's winding down here. We talk about the bears. Maybe there's a chance they launch up into the top ten. Maybe they trade up. I think that could be a possibility of one of those. Big four quarterbacks starts to drift they could make a move which gets me thinking about other teams. We keep focusing on those teams in the top ten well. Some teams could launch their way up. There we've seen that in years past. Is there one that stands out to you. You think could be aggressive yakking. I think the new and the patriots could be real aggressive. I think we see the new england patriots step out of their comfort zone as it relates to free agency. We zone completely rebuild the roster with a number of scientists on free agency and on offense and particularly the way they re they're rearranging the furniture to china is coming over and jonnu smith and hundred henry. We then see nelson aguilar kendrick bourne cam. Newton is resigned. I believe they're about to go all in on an office make over. The young quarterback is the final piece of the puzzle. And i think that quarterback will be an athletic quarterback someone who can also give you something as a runner as they can bring this offense into the twenty twenties. Yeah i keep an eye on. Somebody like freelancer justin fields. Those are the two that would make sense for them to target here. A lot of rumors out there that they are really high on justin fields out of ohio state. So they'd have to travel quite a distance to get up in range to get justin fields. But i i'm with you all they've done it for it. Kind of feels like they've set the nursery up right. We've got the crib. We've got the changing table. We've got the rocking chair. It's kind of set up nicely to bring in a young quarterback and to be a big piece of that is the tight ends and that's going to get us to next gen stats powered by amazon web services. Because the patriots last year in two plus tight end personnel groupings. There was only three point two percent of the snaps last year which was the lowest in the nfl. And you bring in hunter. Henry and jonnu smith those guys if combined for twenty-five red zone targets in the last two seasons the the patriots at three three such targets during that span so this feels like kind of back to the future type thing for the patriots to really fortify that tied imposition with not just one but with two tight ends they brought in absolutely. This is something that if you go back to the heyday. The patriots have always had multiple tight ends. And they've always been able to use it going back to rob gronkowski in the late aaron hernandez way they utilize twelve personnel decree mismatches. All over the feel. Obviously it is the most difficult personnel grouping to defend. Because you don't know whether to play it with nickel or you base defense and then when you factor in cam newton or another athletic quarterback you begin to think about some of the things that the baltimore ravens had been able to do and create in the running game. Multiple tidy is power running game quarterback that can also run. It gives you a lot of problems and it also allows them to play the kind of complimentary football that they love playing. By the way i guarantee you jonnu smith gets what do you think. Book fifteen carries. Maybe this year. They're getting some of the backfield guarantee it. Yeah absolutely believe. You're going to see that and i believe hunter henry not only is going to be a force as a playmaker over the middle of field into passing game. But he's gonna be a solid as sturdy edge blocker and so if they can get the edges solidify. They can continue to run. The football between the tackles and cam newton can just be middle of the pack as a passer while giving them running game. The new england patriots are going to be back in the conversation as a playoff team. All right well that was next. Gen stats powered by amazon web services and buck when when we think of other teams. That's a good one there. I mean i i. I can't argue with that. When i like that concept there the patriots moving up four quarterback. But i'm gonna give you another one here. Because i look at the forty niners sitting there with the twelfth overall pick and this is a team. I don't know what you get but to me. i do. You feel commitment to jimmy garoppolo. 'cause i'm not feeling that i think it's very much in like not in love. And they have an opportunity just outside the top ten where they could launch themselves off to get one of these big four guys. yeah absolutely. I think it's only a matter of time before they find a quarterback they want to be there long term solution. Now they're fine with jimmy garoppolo. But i think they could find a younger quarterback they really groom in develop and allow him to be the face of the franchise four. I think they would do that because the one thing that we know. This system is really quarterback friendly. It creates a lot of layups and big play opportunities for the quarterback and if the quarterback is mobile and now even enhances the running game. And so when i think about cal shanahan and what he was able to do with robert griffin and then what he been able to do with traditional pack passes. I think a guy like trae. Lance would be perfect system because at north dakota state lances played in a multiple system. He's been under center. He's been in his shotgun. He's done traditional pro-style stuff and also done. Qb run game to me would be a perfect fit for the niners. And i feel like when we've talked about the jets. Took him into our move. The sticks bodyshop last week. And we'll get the body shop cranked up again next week but we talked about the fact that jets had to evaluate this quarterback class versus sam. Darnold i almost feel like the forty niners. They need to do the same thing with jimmy garoppolo and with sam darnold so they need to have their meetings. Where you're discussing. What's the best option for us. Going forward is it sticking with jimmy garoppolo. Is it trying to make some type of a trade where we can bring over. Sam darnold to at least compete with jimmy. If not take his job or do we do. We love one of these guys. And we say the big four i guess. We should throwback jones in there as well as the big five or would rather go that route. That's the discussion has to be taken place there in santa clara. Well i mean. I think that's one of the things that you do. Dj we're getting to this part of it. You have your own internal cluster buster and sometimes they cluster includes players on your team on top of graphics and fret perspective trade candidates. I think you have to do all of that. So you can come to a decision in make the best decision as you're getting closer to draft weekend. And we've seen teams aggressively. Move up for quarterbacks in recent years no bigger move than the kansas city chiefs launching up to go get patrick mahomes. I think that worked out quite well. so why. we're watching and monitoring this quarterback market do not pay attention to where teams are picking right now because there's always time for one of these teams to be aggressive and we get the draft day. Maybe that's exactly what we get. I do think he's going to be as the next level in real good guy. he owns. I retrace sermon trae. How does it feel to hear former buckeye legend. Jk dobbins talk about you liked. It feels good. Just non a another great running back has been through the system that i mean she sees a lot of great qualities in me is definitely a good feeling. No blackout tight. Have you guys been able to stay in contact. You pay attention to what he's been able to. Nfl yes sir. I definitely watched him through throughout the season as he just continue to progress in play i level and we talked quite a bit. That's so i'm gonna kinda dig into your background. I think is very very unique. You play too big time programs started. Oklahoma grad transfer to a high state has tremendous amount of success at both places. Let's talk about ohio state though. What is the culture like when you go from oklahoma to jump into ohio state. What was that transition like for. You transition was a little different this because of the covid situation but as far as the culture Saying i mean both obama's is very detailed and and you just have to handle a business plan a high level thinking about playing at a level. They're never running. Backs room had to be very competitive. You massikh some other young guys. That certainly a talented. How do you stay focused on. What your individual goals were while competing with those top dogs really just coming in every day just trying to get better and i felt like as long as i was just getting a little bit better each and every day that that was going to be fine i think about getting better. Each and every day scall- certainly noticed that in the biggest games. You you shine the brightest. What was about playing on those big stage that enable you to take your game up notch religious. My my preparation. I mean going into the game a new they were. They were big games. Of course and i just wanted to make sure that that i was ready for for every opportunity that was presented to me and thinking about watching you in those games. I really enjoyed breaking down your tape and things that i noticed ballast you body. Control your vision your ability to finish runs and a very physical when you evaluate yourself. What you believe are the strong force of your game. Does being able to to make guys miss and just being versatile. I mean this. This catching not the backfield Yards after catch in this taken care of the ball. You guys put on tremendous run. You win the big ten. You go into the college football playoff. Your quarterback justin feels has a tremendous game in a semi-final as you did as well when you play with a guy. Like justin feels in the backfield. What is it about him. How is he has a leak. He's a great leader. I mean he stepped up. All the time i mean just incurs guys get guys going on if you feel like we can be better. I mean he's going to speak up and tell us and he also leads by example. I mean he he again. He's he's a great guy and he plays extremely well. So i mean we see our quarterback playing well. I mean. want to help them out as he can. You know in helping him out. You certainly helped him out by playing will and big games when i look at. You catching the ball out of the backfield. I think you probably could have been utilized more. Do you believe you can be a big time. Prominent play maker in the passing game at the next level. Yes i definitely think so. I mean i've been catching the ball at the backfield. Since i was a freshman in college so i mean it's never really been nothing new to me in each year. I mean i've shopping. Up rows is getting better at those and honestly i'm able to line up in the slot in iran receiver routes as well. So i feel like making his transition. That i'll never be able to do that at the next level. You know what. I'm talking about the transition to the next level going back to your oklahoma days man. You've also played some very talented quarterback they're calum. Murray jan hurts. What did you learn from watching. Each of those guys played not only playing beside him at oklahoma watching the success that they've had to the next level what i really took them them. I mean this is going to work every day and you have to have the right and talented each one of those guys. They had the same mentality just getting better in in in winning. I mean that's really what i learned. So i'm definitely gonna carry that with me. I mean for the rest of my career. Well we certainly excited to see you. Continue to move on with your inability career looking forward to watch you work at your pro day. What looking forward to watching you have success in the national football. The thanks for joining the mood of sticks. Podcast trae best of luck. The i've always down as a pastor's son to hear some preaching and trace sermon. He gave a nice little preaching their in the big ten championship game against northwestern. Three hundred thirty one yards two touchdowns. That's all bucknell. Big deal most rushing yards in a conference championship game at fps. history not too shabby a buck. I know he's in your top five running backs and the scouting report on him. Says what he's an outstanding playmaker and when i look at him i love the vision the balanced by control the overall physicality and in. Dj's the softens didn't show as a receiver. Some questions a worry about his home run speed and his door ability because he has had a number of injuries throughout his collegiate career. This it there's a lot to like about trade sir. We see them there in the buckeye uniform that the oklahoma transfer though buck once you look at video here. It's one thing. Put the report out there. Show me a little video on trade sermon. And what you like. Gold his time in oklahoma as well as at ohio state were. I think you see it right. There is a control to be able to pull through tackles. He has great vision. You can see the physicality you can see the toughness but his ability to separate. Even though he doesn't have what. I call a level home runs. Beat he does find a way to consistently get to the end zone. This is underrated. Part of his game. Catching the ball out the back. You think they're so much more he can add to an offense as a pass catcher but these. Yeah i think the thing you have to like about him. When you do the scouting and big games he was able to take over there. You see him slip and slide and get out the back door. Repeatedly you saw him steph his game up doing this. Run that the buckeyes had even though it didn't end of in a national championship game victory because he was out early. I think he certainly helped himself by showing he can put an offense on his back. There are a lot of nfl teams that are looking for three down backs. He is definitely one of the best ones that we see in the draft. Yeah the bundy got hurt because we would have seen him down in mobile at the senior bowl. Unfortunately wasn't able to participate there. But i you to me. It's the ballot in the physicality that stood out to me as well as maybe a little underrated with what he can do in the passing attack. He's he's going to be. Somebody i think is a good chance to hear his name called at some point time on day two and he's somebody i believe steps on. Nfl field and has an immediate impact. We've gotten going second to the jetsons mark and you can see. Why would you watch quarterback wilson use upcoming coverage begins on march. Twenty six at one pm eastern on info network. Dj we talked about byu quarterback wilson one of the top quarterbacks in the class. What are you looking forward to seeing. When he shows up at his pro day. I'll see big. I mean let's start there buck i mean. We don't have measurements on. Zach wilson seen a pitcher with him and drew brees. And i'm trying to gauge okay. Inch taller than drew. Brees is a two inch tall. That drew brees. So there's a lot of see. How big is how much does he weigh. And then we can get out there and watch him put on a show throwing the football. I really don't have anything i feel like. I need to see with him in terms of throws. Because i've seen him make every type of throw on schedule and off schedule there at byu to me more than anything else. I just want to see what the dimensions are. Here on wilson. He's a very talented player. I wanna see them move around a little bit you want to see make some of those throws because he wild you doing the regular season with all of these scripted and unscripted plays it made for byu when alessio him throw it around in a comfortable setting there's something to seem victim quarterback's throw where you just kind of confirm. What is that you feel about him. I can't wait to seize that show off a little bit. A couple defensive guys. You're looking forward to hear pro days upcoming Just keep an eye on. I want to go to missouri nick. Bowen inside linebacker is a guy that i am really high on when i look at him play. He's a sideline to sideline. Playmaker does a great job of making things happen in between the tackles. And when you think about these guys exceeded this position. They not only have great instincts awareness. They also have a mean streak but they have the range to go from number two number to make plays when you watch him play missouri. He does that the other guy. I don't want to pay attention to michigan. Differs of in quickey pay quickly. Pay is an active hype. Motor player does a really good job of overwhelming opponents with his athleticism didn't necessarily result in a high volume of sacks but disruption is certainly there. I want to see him work out. I wanna run around. I wanna see if i can take his athleticism and put it into practice where we could see more production if he gets with the right coach. Exciting athlete very intriguing prospect. Wanna see what does in could translate it at the next level. I'm put by numbers out there. I'm gonna go. Nick bolton mid four fives and quick pay. Yeah he's going to duct below. That bucky is gonna put on a show there. He is an absolute freak. He's going to test and we'll be talking about it. One defensive name. I would add to that list. Let's go to usc and talanoa who of very gifted safety. They're one of the best defensive players in the pac twelve. This past season always around the football. He's he's best. When he's near the line of scrimmage you see him as a blitzer you see him get his hands on these tips and overthrows repeatedly just very instinctive and outstanding football player but he has had some injuries set some shoulder issues. And the question is what is his speed. Can he hold up back there in the deep half the middle. We want to see how fast athletic years from that standpoint with the testing. So we'll keep an eye on that one bucks. And that's the the usc pro day which is coming up soon. March twenty four th at eleven a. m. eastern and. We're going to have that for you right here on. Nfl network checkout him with his teammates. Almond ross saint brown very gifted wide receiver. Elijah ver- tucker some have is the number one guard in the entire draft class. I believe a top fifteen picks again. That's march twenty fourth. Hang with this year. nfl network eleven am eastern right. now it's time for be prepared presented by castrol edge. Let's take a look here at buggies. Top five linebackers as we head towards the nfl draft surprise their chests threat sticking with his north carolina tar heel there at number five you all the way up the top of the list. And you've got mike. Parsons should be a top ten. Pick in the upcoming draft at penn state number four. Right there from lsu gebreel hawks. One of the more intriguing players in the entire draft class and bucky had a chance to catch up to seven picked off. Stepping in front of it is real cox djibril cots who's really distinguish himself early by taking some shots. It's been a long journey for you. You're from north dakota state. Lsu let's talk about the journey. How did you make your way to lsu after a standout career to right coming out of high school house really under recruited at north dakota state. They offer me later in. My senior season took a visit. There felt like it was the right fit knowing the mana championship. some just the culture of the program that they have there are ratio to my first year and then after that i won three national championships in a row and then continued to thrive in that program. You know let's talk about it. Because i don't know if they're program gets enough like national attention in terms of the culture in the expectations. What what is it like to play for team that is always in the national championship. Like how do you get. How did you keep it going when you were there after. We one the next time. We're in the weight room. We don't even think about the championships or anything that we did. In the past season we always move forward and we embrace the target. That's something that we said. Go my years. There is embracing the target and just enjoy the journey. That you're going on a lot of guys there are work ethic is just unmatched You know we're under recruited guys. So we're coming in. I just wanted to prove and the people that are bison prize something that we like to say is bison pride you really understand it as long as you go through the through india issue for four or five years that you're there it's funny so i'm a ask you one more question about north dakota state because there's a lot of fascination about the quarterback that is coming out from their trae lance up the middle tangling cross midfield. Tackle field haven't been his teammate. What is he like as leader in a player he's very special Coming in i knew right away. His leadership skills were there and has also his work ethic Just coming in seeing how he just wants to compete. And he's had some gray to learn under eastern state one who plays for the chargers He's learned on under him and just try he. He just always willing to grow in just his his traits are there and also mentally. He's a prepare for the next day. Okay so you went through national. Titles you then make your way to baton rouge you join. Lsu coming off a national championship. What was that like jumping into a program that is just coming off a national championship. Even though you had had all the individual and team success in north dakota state what was it like at lsu right it was a it was exciting for me It was something. That was a new challenge that i wanted to take on Going in i didn't know what to expect especially with it being During a pandemic and we didn't know if the season was going to happen or not but just going in. I was ready to compete. And just give myself better as a player as as a end Just my timing baton rouge a win trade it for the war on. I think he was for the best of me. Yeah it'd be in for the best one. I've talked to people about your experience down. They talk about the natural leadership ability displayed and being able to kind of jump right in and being a guy that can be I take charge. What was it like earning the respect of your teammates. Your new teammates down lsu. I it was something that would come in. And i wanted to show guys by leading by example putting in the work in time. Let them know that. I'm coming in a strictly on business so when it's time for me to say something a lot of guys at my respect and they trust me throughout the season and it's something that i take honor with being older guy on the team and just teaching the young talent guys The way of how to be a caused football player. What are some of the things that you wanted to show scouts and evaluate along the way i wanted to show my birth certificate how i'm able to cover while also playing in the box and getting all blocks in place just being versatile player. That's something that is really needed them. This game in something that i can bring to it and thinking about that when when you look at the. Nfl game there are a lot of linebackers. Now we're seeing make plays and most of those guys are very athletic and active. Their on the sideline chasers. When you look at your game. How does your game fit the next level. I think if it's perfect it's something that a modern linebacker would need been able to stop the run and play the run. Also if you have like a travis kelce out slide cover him or also quick running back out the backfield cover them. So i can also listen to the quarterback if you need me just in every aspect of the game is needed. I think that's where my game takes ours. We want to have a little fun with you right now. Because you're all business you serious you ready. We go back to you. Career high school even your college career. What is the best the greatest. Play that you've ever made my coming out party against announced they Coz bo leany. We were in overtime. And i got a sack on third down for a loss of about eight which then led them to miss the film. We went and we win the game. That's right there. When i knew that i was made for college football and i can play with the big dogs. Ooh you definitely our big dog. Man we excited to continue to watch you on your journey. We can't wait to see where you go on draft. Thanks so much for joining the six buckets appreciate nice work there block. It was very cool. Listening to djibril cox when i watch him as a player. He's in my top fifty for reason. This guy is a versatile second level defender. He can mere tight ends in coverage they can use them to russia a little bit off the edge. There's only one thing like to see a little bit improvement. There is when he's lined up inside the box. Maybe at times a little bit late to kim diagnose but that's nitpicking. Their buck look is nitpicking. But he's a big time player. Dj we have a little time. Popu some tape so you can break down what he is. I go back to north dakota state and show you some of the things he did when he was detached. Get away from the from the box. And i think he sees things clearly you see him look at him. Closed down and make plays behind the line of scrimmage yards a lot of experience out there. How about his ability to get underneath a block and make a big hit here out on the perimeter as well his ability to function in space. That a little bit of that. They're at lsu. Now we can see him trigger downhill look at the burst when he wants to close c. Diagnosed and go. When he's got clear sight lines we watch him and coverage very comfortable as zone droppers. Get your eyes on the quarterback and make plays on the football and finally the athletic ability to be able to flip your hips drive on the football. Pick it off. Go ahead and take it back to. Let's finish this thing up and get your way into the end zone here. He's he's a fun player. To study is absolutely phone player. He's one of those new school linebackers that we're seeing dominate the league agai- off the ball but it has the ability to make a bunch of different plays and a variety of ways talented prospect. Someone's going to get a go. No doubt well there you have it. That was be prepared presented by castrol edge. We're coming up next tuesday in tuscaloosa alabama. All eyes are going to be on the crimson tide and their plethora of star players. Devante smith mack jones. Patrick 'certain the second. They're all going to be participating in that alabama pro day tuesday march twenty thirty. You can see at twelve pm eastern right here on. Nfl network. Well one of the teams alabama was able to best last year inside the sec georgia and they had their pro day down. There in athens and bucket was quite a show Led by mr eric stokes ripping off the mid four to forty. Yeah look very impressive. Performance talking about ripping off before to forty. I think when you see his athleticism his explosiveness combined with what you watched on tape. You really begin to really like the player. And i think a player like that. Who is versatile dynamic explosive and has the ability to give you special teams. Contributions is the high commodity to be hot name to follow as we get closer to the draft. You've got tyson campbell other corner. They're ended up running a four three eight. Which is incredible At his size. And you don't hear anything about it. Because of the four to five that stokes ripped off. We've talked about him as a little bit as a player to me when i watched him buck. I saw the. I saw the speed play. I saw him be able to locate and play the ball which was impressive. A little bit of a tightness. I thought and some of his movement. I'd give campbell the edge in the movement department but campbell didn't find football as well as stoke so to me. They're not perfect but their height weight speed guys. They always go in the second round right. I mean that's where these guys are gonna end up with us. They're going to go. Dj when we think about day to day two is for the slightly imperfect slight slight imperfections in their game and their technique. You talk about campbell being a guy that look is probably smoother and more fluid when it comes to certain movements but he doesn't have the ability to find the ball. Stokes is a little stiffer more explosive and has bitter ball skills and so it comes out to style of play. How do you wanna play on the perimeter but both guys should definitely be gone within the top one hundred. I think both of these guys have an opportunity to be started very early in their careers. Well the headliner at the georgia pro day was disease ojea. Laurie edge rusher there. Who had a really nice day ended up testing in the low four sixes his arms or thirty four and change which is which is outstanding a really really talented player. White thought really helped himself at this day and see him move in here. I thought to me. Some of the stiffness you saw on tape. It wasn't as pronounced in the workout. I thought he looked pretty good. Yeah you did look really good you worry about when you watch se. He's kind of a one trick. Pony wins with speed a little. Swipe move coming around. Ed's dip and rip that is the go-to his fastball. The so you want. Does he have anything. Does he have the to being able to change it up and had to work you saw. He certainly is athletic. Enough to add some tools to ask them pitches to the repertoire and so that is encouraging in a draft. Where you don't have many frontline. High end pass rushers his workout combined with the stuff that he's shown all tape. It moves them up the charts or you mentioned the draft in the edge was. Let's take a look here at your top five edge rusher in the class again you to. Nfl dot com slash brooks or nfl dot com slash. top five. You can see all these lists here but looking at this list of names here. Buck starting with greg russo and jalen phillips up there at the top. I feel like we've talked a lot about rousseau What you tell me a little bitter in berry. Show me a little bit about jalen. Philipson what you liked about him. Love jalen phillips game. Because he's a technician. He has some of that karate. Kid i know you like to have referenced with his skills. Quick against run does a great job of chasing down from behind. His hands are polished effective. He plays the game like a bit. But it's more than that is how saudi is. Then you see them. Taking on the polar stones them also disrupts to play blows up the running game. But it's not only dad his athleticism inability to plan space now. A+ got it plays space but active in instinctive does a great job in dj. We can talk about the motor particularly winners to pass for us. Doesn't give up on the play. Chases it down. This is what you want to see. From a high end playmaker someone that place or has technical skills and is also a relentless competitor. Jalen philip shows a lot of impressive tools and trace on tape. yeah he is very talented the former. Ucla football player. who is really just blossomed. There at miami wanna get to one of the more fascinating edge rushers. Who's on your board. That jason edge rusher for penn state. Because as i show you the video keep in mind this year. He did not have a sack a lot of pressures but not a lot of production. This is what you see the when you study them period of his career. You see the speed to win right now off the edge. Can you shorten that corner can get a soft edge. That's exactly what he does. Look at him. Work on the edge of the tackle there for michigan state. That was from the previous year close. Finish knocked the ball out. He flashes some of the power. We talked about being heavy on contact. You see flashes of that. Is he dumps the iowa tackle there but it was alert. Jackson put him on the ground. You see that in a couple of games throughout his career where you say okay. This guy's got some strength for somebody who's going to rip off a ridiculous forty time. He does flash a little bit of that power but again it's a lot of disruption versus production which makes his evaluation little bit tricky buck. No don't confuse activity with the gm. Because you just don't see the production. I will say if you're a defensive line coach defensive coordinator you love the athleticism and dependent upon the skill level. Meaning that teaching level of the coach. You may take a chance on them because it is hard to find guys who were built like that who can run like that. Jump over tall buildings. He's a superhero as an athlete. Now can you make him a dominant football player. You have got a lot to work with getting jason away going to have a chance to really build up a fantastic football player not there yet but very well could be a tremendous tremendous tool set while we hope the move. The six podcast is your number one star. We also have six out standing podcasts at the nfl media group. You see him here on the street. Some fantastic four. You just go to. Nfl dot com slash podcast. You can fight on on spotify apple or your favorite podcast provider. One of those six other. Great podcasts is our buddies at the around the nfl podcast and they recently had a chance to discuss a very cloudy future for one former. All pro running back mentioned lady on bell is even going to get a job. This offseason is his career over. I mean what a stunning downfall If that's the case he was on a hall of fame trajectory before he got into his squabbles. With pittsburgh i think it could be over in less. He's gonna take like a minimum deal and compete for a spot in camp. That's kind of where you know. Major injury sat out the year over contract issues. Came back with the jets. Got a nice deal. wasn't nearly the same player. They thought maybe getting them. Out of the adam gates offense sending to the chiefs would spark him did not and i just. It's one of those really. It's a head scratcher. Because i think he's what twenty eight twenty nine now and it's almost like the the elite football and his Body just disappeared for those wondering. Why dan hands able to sound so great. It's hydration you can see it there in the clip you gotta stay hydrated. If you're going to sound that beautiful on the podcast that stands trick. I just let the let the secret out there. All right we put out the hashtag. Ask mt on twitter. Hit us up with some questions and we have got some good ones to tackle here. So what do you say we get started here with the first one which comes from the coffee super great name love that which non first round wide receiver and running back. Well teams wish. They had taken in the first round. I'll give you that one. Ooh that's a good one. I will say shot. Bateman is the wide receiver out of minnesota running back out of minnesota the running back. Be the guy that we've talked about trade sermon. I think is going to be an outstanding pro Just based on how physical and the tough years plus 'soft hands. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say i'm going to go devante williams and michael carter both those north carolina backs. But you didn't take which is rising. I think both those are gonna be in really good players are. Let's get to the next question here. This one how concerned are teams with devante. Smith's weight which by the way we don't know we're looking forward to seeing at the alabama pro day. Yeah i think it has to be a concern when you go back. Dj you look at a top. Ten picks the last few little wide receivers that have been taken have struggled john. Ross in austin respectively. I worry about just his ability to hold up against a physical rigors on the outside talented player if you have a gift at schemer yes. You can create opportunities warm. But i do worry about his ability to hold up on the outside see. I don't think it's going to impact. How well he does at the next level. But i do think it could impact where he gets picked because traditionally we don't see guys that don't have all the measurable go in the top. Ten just doesn't happen very often. He could be the exception. He's an outstanding player. Reminds me a lot. Of isaac. Bruce keenan mccardell somewhat. You know very well similar skill sets. That doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how he's going to do at the next level with the weight. But i do think it could cause them maybe to drop a little bit in the draft all right. Here's the next one. Let's keep it rolling here. This one i thought was interesting. Was the russell wilson of this draft. No one wants to know. I was maybe killing mine from texas in the cbo. Mvp has certainly caught the bus and thinking about the number of games that he played planning. Jimbo fisher's offense. He certainly appears to be well prepared for the next level he could be someone to kind of does not necessarily what russell wilson but look at. What jalen hurts was able to do in philadelphia. Kalamata might be the next guy to come from nowhere to be a starting quarterback. I liked that one. I'm gonna try and squeeze one more in here. This is a great name. Morph dc any version of the draft chiefs move up. I'll take this one to me. Yeah absolutely they could be aggressive here if they were to see an offensive lineman. It's been an offensive line off season for them. Just brought over. Kyle long to go on to come in with joe tony. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a guy like especially at tackle if they moved up. Yeah i think offensive tackle. That is the sweet spot. Not only where the chiefs are picking. But we're all of the tackles tend to fall. I see the move from the bottom team. Not quite the mid but somewhere in the twenties to find an office of taco. That really really like now. There you go. There's a bunch of questions they're nice job everybody's submitting those questions on hashtag ask. Mts will keep that role next week. A buck outside outsider. You get back in the body shop next week took a week off the bike shop. Wanna give free agency. They're do. We're back in the body shop next week excited to get back into by shop and see what i can do because anyone who knows me knows. I don't normally get up on the cars to fix them. Yeah we're coming back next. It's going to be the miami dolphins. We're putting them in the body shop if we can't fix that franchise with what they could do in the upcoming draft. Oh that's going to do it. He's monkey brooks. I'm daniel jeremiah. Thanks for hanging with us here on. Move the sticks presented by castrol edge.

jimmy garoppolo patriots football justin fields jonnu smith russell wilson lsu north dakota nfl seattle ohio byu niners matt stafford oklahoma bucky seattle seahawks daniel jeremiah Nfl buck
NFC North Predictions & Win Totals (Ep. 1078)

Sports Gambling Podcast

1:23:30 hr | 2 months ago

NFC North Predictions & Win Totals (Ep. 1078)

"The nfc north predictions edition of the sports game back is presented by win. Bet when bet is now live in colorado indiana michigan new jersey tennessee and virginia from boosted parlays. To in game odds on every major sport win bed has what you need to win. Sign up today to receive a five hundred dollar risk free sports bet. Download the wind up now or visit. W i and bet dot com and start when today we're also brought to you by prop up america's number one app to buy and sell sports bets use code s. g. p. on your first deposit and receive up to five hundred dollars in bonus cash that's props dot com promo code s. g. p. picks wise picks wise is the number one home of free sports betting picks visit pixel is dot com to make your next bet. Better we're also brought about underdog fancy sandoval underdog fantasy dot com with promo code s. Upn and receive a free twenty five dollars us. Best all mania to for a chance to win one million dollars and of course. Don't forget to download the s. g. e. n. app s. Gp is giving you a chance to win a one hundred thousand dollars in nfl week. One exclusively on the app pay everybody. Jim mcmahon here. And you're listening to sgp n let it ride penetration baby radio. Show go fucking welcome. Everyone to the sports gamla. Pack sean stack in that money. Green my partner and picks ryan real money kramer. What's happening crame dog. I mean just the marathon continues. Yeah division number five and the nfl preview. Series sean We've already done. Afc nfc west. We've already done the afc north. We've already done the nfc south and now we are here to discuss the beautiful nfc north. Lots of drama. If i'm gonna nominate a division to be as the league turns at least for the off-season stretch. I don't know if you have that. Music with a sean. It's gotta be the green bay packers aaron rodgers. Willie come back through the hourglass the days of our league. Then what's this. It was all a dream ryan. We were in a coma. Woke and aaron rodgers is back. Thought he was dead but no aaron is here not only in our hearts. He's back not only that our favorite character from season. Three randall cobb back in the house. I thought he i thought he died of poisoning accident. No he's back back to back to life. They're always loved him. The most i was going to save him for the green bay packers section. But we kind of fell into this Anyway so let's get to it hypothetical ryan. Who does aaron rodgers like talking to mourn green bay packers management or his family. I know he doesn't like his family. Arabia's family doesn't like him for his lifestyle choices but it seems like right now in the in the high school girl. Attention span World that we live in that he is currently in his power rankings. His family less threatening to him than the green bay front office. Yeah i think Let's start with the packers. Well ryan we gotta start friend of the program presenting sponsor. That's right win beds. Oh man summer wind continues. That's right get you ready for winning season. W y n n season some call football season. I call it winning season. Because i use the win bet app w y n bt dot com or just Check it out in the app store the win betting app gad. They got it all everything you want to bet on boosted parlays in game wagering. Yes do they have a awesome player. Props yes can you earn rewards. Sporting win resort via the wind. Bedding up just saw that breaking news Yes when bet. They got it all and best same for laughs. A risk. free five hundred dollar sports bets. What more can you ask for kramer. We're gonna be talking a ton of futures props and perfect time to also fire up your your window. Slop dot com america's number one app to buy and sell sports bets again. Best part about it is. Let's say you had the packers last year to win the super bowl probably probably these no no sold it at the nfc championship game. Guaranteeing yourself a profit. A losing ticket can win. Yes because you can sell it and you said we woke up from the dream and you can you can. Obviously you can buy tickets as well. It's the it's like ebay for sports tickets. You can buy and sell ensuring you'll get the best price average sellers swab make over five hundred dollars per month between your part time job. Perhaps slop and your risk free sports bet you should be loaded up ready to go for the football season. Game prop up. It's where america buys and sells sports bets cream dog. Let's do it. I gotta i gotta get to sell it. I guess all right Let's go back to the order. We were gonna do bears. Well they're eight and eight last year. Sean The mitchell trubisky exp- experiment is over They pushed their win. Total last year this year. Seven and a half Minus one fifteen on the over Same way going the other way by fifty to win the division thirty five to one to win the nfc sixty five to one win the super bowl. Those stood out to me as shorter than they should be. I think Key additions obviously It's all about the quarterback. They picked up a future hall of current hall of fame. Right think justin fields based on the performance in the preseason ryan's mad that also take justin. They they got their Second and third choice at quarterback after striking out on the russel wilson sweepstakes Antidote and joins the team Damian williams which we haven't discussed a lot in fantasy kind of sneaky pickup. He did sit out. He opted out but You know he's got to be fresh. You have. I mean. I know just quick sidebar on on fantasy. I know we're big on david. Montgomery you through. David montgomery to lead the league in rushing at thirty to one. I've been dabbling with that as well. I like that. But you're right damian. Williams maybe stealing some because torri cohen. I don't think is going to seal anything. He still dealing on coming off that. Acl injury but damian williams again haven't heard a ton of him coming out of camp but he is. He is a legit threat both in fantasy and just overall betting Yeah and and honestly montgomery it. It's the value. He has a chance to team is on the better side of their projection. He has chance to get so many carries They also brought in The the the line from oklahoma state Tem jenkins to go with justin fields. And then of course mitch. He's gone. he's up in. Buffalo cow fuller is gone. Which now one that hurts. That's going to be meaningful. I mean vic fangio. His former coach immediately swooped up and signed. And what does that tell you. He's a player. yeah he's a dog. So i think when it comes to handicapping this team it really. How much do you believe in. Justin fields is the narrative because for their win total. Be at seven and a half in a situation where they're either starting any dome yep and we saw with andy. Dalton looks like with less skilled players around him last year in dallas. Maybe a better offense. Why no it's questionable or do you believe in justin fields. And he's the second coming. I mean people putting him in the hall of fame already. We we visited can. I didn't see his bus anywhere. Shod ryan you say you act like i'm nervous about the upcoming season the amount of preemptive shade your throat at justin field lies is telling the here's the thing to me. I'm just firming my position. I'm getting my anchored in the sand as the waves crash nagy secure in his job. No right we both agree that you you trade up to draft a quarterback. This is not patrick. Mahomes that implies that they're already a playoff team that they have alex smith that everyone is securing the jobs. It's the exact opposite. They have andy dalton. They're in desperate need for any sort of offensive bump. They're also the chicago bears. Who who have never had a quarterback and maybe maybe just in fields is that guy. Here's the thing i mean. Defense defense was pretty solid. Last year near the fuller loss is does make sense to bring up Opponents yards per play for chicago tenth in the league. A five point four. They always have a pretty solid defensive bears and actually they've never had a losing year under matt nagy even last year kind of a weird years started out hot then got super cold. Finish strong gone to the playoffs. Yeah eight other than that. They've never had a losing your matinee which is crazy again that he's on hot seat when i another coach out there on the west coast has three six win seasons and it's no one's even discussing him the and you wanna to talk about quarterback he get a pass on cares about well again here. Here's the problem with matinee. Is he's had a loaded roster everywhere else and and the problem is the gm pick this quarterback. He traded up for him and it wasn't the right guy. And so this team talking about mitch trubisky. Yeah and this team is chasing right. And what do you know when we're out in vegas right. What do you know about the guy who's chasing right. It's not a good spot to be now. J. chase when you're chasing something it means you're overextending yourself and while i'll give you that they weren't a bad team. Last year and matinee has managed to to Put them in a position where they're fighting for for the playoffs every year. But the question. I would ask you is yet do. Are they really upgraded at the quarterback position. Yes one hundred percent. Yes and here's the thing they got a they got eight wins with one of the worst offenses in the league quietly last two years. Twenty four and twenty-seventh in epa the past two seasons dead last in third down conversions over expectation. Mitch trubisky nick. Foles sucked pretty hard. They figured out a version of the offense that mitch trubisky rent booed action design. Runs our peos. Now you bring in a mitchell. Trubisky on steroids aka justin fields a better runner a guy. That's better suited for booed action. A guy would just overall way more confidence than mitch. Trubisky guy played it. Ohio state versus one year at unc and the bears could ask some secondary issues. The offense of line is a red flag. How do you help the offensive line. Rpo's booed action a running quarterback the the leash. On andy dalton. I know he said it's my time. Okay i get it i did. The the issue is andy. Dalton has no perspective on andy dong because andy dalton mind blown right there. The leash is so short. On andy. Dalton. if you know if he doesn't start out three. You know. I i think fields comes in and that's and i think fields winning. The job is a real possibility. I mean last time we checked on the odds it was like plus two fifty. It is not. It is not a crazy big for that for that for fields to start so. That's where i'm at with this. Bears team i think there quietly gonna some linger high on. Yeah and breakout potential for coal command allen robinson dog i liked i liked mooney as a receiver. He got open deep. Foles had him a couple of times. He dropped up on the playoffs but he could be explosive fields to start. And i'm gonna blow my prop. Because i think you now that important point the best way to do something with a bad offense line is throw the kid that can run around back then. That's what they did last year with mitch. And and that was like mitt. Best version of mitch was that And when you when you read the stuff coming out a camp. They're basically saying like boyd. Any one's gonna get his ass kicked back there. That's that's what they go with because they're not going to get there he's he's a statue because the offensive line is bad right. That's more sad commentary on the line though. And so you know i guess echoing what you're saying that the i guess the other thing i would say Part of the reason. I think i do like the offense. A little bit is that the defense is a little bit top heavy. They've seen an increase in adjusted games lost to injury every year And they haven't seen a ton of that defensive variants you tend to see year to year. Could this be the year that the top breaks. And they don't have the depth because they've been slinging around their draft. Picks like like their Hot tamales or something like that. Do people slaying hot tamales. Like they like i sling a tip at the taco guy I think if another one of these teams that is hyper fragile. And if the defense falls at all because don't don't be mistaken. The defense is why this team was able to go eight eight last year. And if the defense isn't quite there and i'm i'm less confident that they will be there. I think we will see justin fields running for his life. And i think and that's that's a winning formula short-term that's a winning formula so winning formula and fantasy. I don't know if it's a winning formula in real football sean. The last thing. I'll say They have the hardest schedule according to db away. And that is the part again like some of these. Schedules have really put us on or off a team and i think we go through the bears. We're going to see it. But i do not have. I'm not all in and it could be. Because i'm obviously rooting for the giants. Get good draft. Pick with the one that they they They traded away. But should we. Are you ready to go. i'm ready let's go chicago week. One at the rams sunday night football. That's that's no easy. Do they start the rookie there. That's you gotta put out there for that game. That right isn't that. What makes it hard. But secretly i i. I don't know. I gotta do more deep dive on. Nfl wants a hold me to this. Tony kinda like the bears against matt stafford ryan that bears defense. That knows that stafford's tricks nagisa. Not really because i think this i think the bears offensive line could be pretty bad. And that's not somewhere. You wanna be when when aaron donald coming to cincinnati at home at cleveland. Detroit at home. I mean i. I see to winnable games and see two extremely difficult road. Road games there so Could they slip up. Lose the detroit. Some kneecap Slaughtering now early in the season. Jared goff feeling good. I got him to to but i i think three and one is very much in the mix there all right. I'm into you think they can win a road game. I like at las vegas green bay at home at tampa san francisco at home too to I'll be i kind of want. It raiders games going to feel like a home game. I don't to get what they win. One of their home. That's true at pittsburgh on monday night. Football by week ten baltimore at home at detroit on thanksgiving which that that probably is always win that game and sure it always lose his dallas always loses. It's crazy lock arizona. At home they can win that to and soldier cuyler out at soldier field in december ryan's a loss to to well. Then maybe maybe they know how to play this raven steam. I'm gonna go three in one slight surprise there all right last last squad at green bay on sunday night football minnesota in prime time. That's probably a win at seattle giants at home to into well. That's going to be for the draft. Pick i'm going to say one in three for the first overall. Pick ryan your that down on chicago two. Yeah tune to and then Final game at minnesota. That's a loss for me They already they already beat minnesota and prime time. Yeah it's it's tough to give him. The prime time came at home lose at minnesota. What do i got them at eight nine. You got at nine nine hundred eight nine eight. I gotta. I gotta chop him down seven and ten. I didn't. I don't think i want. Yeah seven and ten. That's probably fair. I don't think they do that. Although i i like them. I like them over Do you what the Make playoffs prices for the bears. Oh did i not put that. Because the the them to win the division at five fifty. That's just tough conference. Don't want any part of super bowl. Sixty five oh one. That's goddamn crazy but then to make the playoffs. I mean they're seven teams. I could definitely see them sneak in yes plus to ten. Oh yeah i'm on. I'm in on the chicago team. Making the playoffs. Yes plus to ten. Let's no is minus two eighty Good luck sean i. I don't see it. I don't see it i. Just that's why people listen to the podcast. You're worrying opinions. You're on you know we. We believed it wasn't wasn't the guy on the whiteboard. And you're telling me of all the gems in the national football league not only does does he. Gm for the bears but he he felt mitch. Trubisky was the guy to trade up for in the draft class with shawn watson. You remember though. Rg three right. You remember these guys who scramble a bunch and having heavy good first year and then the league kind of figures them out. They don't have that You know mental ability to go through all the progressions. They're not that you know next level quarterback. I'm not saying that's fields is or isn't but i'm saying to me. He definitely fits that profile of a rookie. That comes in and with his legs helps carry them to some wins that they shouldn't normally win. Okay that's what. I got it at seven i. I think i questioned him long-term as the quarterback. But i think especially first year before they realize how to play a guy like justin fields. I think there's a ton of value in them. And i think they're gonna be dogs and a lot of situation and i do think the their defense just historically pretty solid. No that's where. I'm at and and prop bet again all over david montgomery this year. Give me david. Montgomery over a thousand half rush yards. It's partially a volume thing. But yeah i. I think they're gonna pound the ball. Bunch give either either dull nor justin fields easy play action looks and i mean i feel like you'd be. I mean my promise to go. Take the plus one ninety on fields. I i don't. I'm not really sure how they put out there. Well the the problem is they've said so many times that andy dalton is the starter i still think they give him one right. But maybe it's easier to do it before the season starts. Someone's getting hurt. The rams are hurt again with that offensive line. Just in fields makes a ton of sense right. We're brought to you. Ryan picks the number one home a free sports betting pigs props and parlays held by a team at trend watch k. devour sports fanatics giving you the who. How and why behind every prediction for every game or sorry for every game. Every day. Every sport all for free visit picks wise dot com. Make your next bet better ken. You're listening you love free. Picks you love sports gambling just head over to pick size dot com. Give them a worl- mixed wise backs responsible gambling. If you or someone you know wants help call one. Eight hundred gambler. Also my new favorite daily fantasy app prize hicks. That's right you know we love. We love talking player stats player. Totals all you gotta do pick two players decide if they will go over under their stat. Projection is just that easy. They haven't a ton of choose from yards receptions touchdown even fantasy points and again the more player you pick the more you and you can Wind up to ten extra money. Wow that is a crazy. I i love the cross sport action. Nfl college football nba college basketball. So many options. And if you're a degen on the run prize picks entries can be made in sixty seconds or less. They're app is Four point eight stars in the app store get. It is the easy way to play daily fantasy healy. fantasy simplified. Find it in the app store and google play. Use promo code s. g. peat receive one hundred percent instant deposit match up to one hundred dollars that's prize picks promo code. Gp merged on next up green bay packers thirteen and three again over nine again. Yeah last year felt like the regarding here for them right. We i i feel like before the season we were. We were screaming regression. Yeah people were people were we. I don't believe we were. I think we are kind of like. Hey why not Ten is the win. Total this year the dramas over aaron rodgers gonna play at least one more season in green bay. I think if nothing else he's he's clearly angry and he wants to go somewhere else in and that could be the recipe for fire year. Ten is the win total minus one fifty on the over plus one twenty on the under a little bit manipulation their minus one sixty to win the division plus six hundred to win the conference thirteen to one win the super bowl matlock floor. Seems like he's a pretty good coach. we like jamal williams. If we're too worried about him leaving they do still have. Aj dylan waiting in the wings. Second round pick last year. One of those picks that didn't make aaron happy I do think it probably if nothing else is the fact that he's got randall. Cobb the fact that he got his boy. It was all about randall. Kind is around the corner z. Randall cobb of his relationship with his parents right. Is there just one. Maybe the maybe he wanted to adopt. Randall cobb into his family as well. I just think that you know obviously. He's he was pissed off. They got rid of randall. Cobb and he's trying to prove a point or something. But i think this is a team that's made the conference championship. Two games in two seasons in a row Aaron rodgers is still. I in in his prime. Can you have back to back few seasons and maybe this is third in a row. The first one didn't feel like as a few and again why we were all over how he was actually going to stay one a an athlete. Never give the money back but to. He's done really well in the matlock floor system. He really likes matt leflore and the way he calls games and you see it. They they have. They have the running game They have the receivers. We love what him in. Davonte atoms can do i think as soon as he confirmed he was coming back. Davante adams becomes the number one fantasy wide receiver. Yeah and for you to sit here and tell me that their win. Total should only be ten. We need to have a further conversation. I get it. They have a tough schedule number. Three according to football outsiders I had an easier schedule last year. Sure they have their shortcomings on defense but they again crowds. They have a home field advantage. Yeah they're in a matter. He got a nice bump. They're the they're the fucking packers and they once again if the vikings are the team. That's going to be their competition. I'm not worried. I love one sixty for them to win the division. I think it's an absolute deal. I think back to the coach. I think the coach is clearly putting them in the best position to win and aaron rodgers. ceases free don't like this is his send off. This is his lambeau send off season and he. You know for someone who likes drama. He surely going to be aware of that. I mean look at him. he's at camp. he's having a good time he's loose. This team is loose. The whole team knows this could be it. This could be their last dance As they're calling it and you know even You know randall conversational amari rogers exciting addition. And we liked what. Eric stokes As a draft prospect sean. So i this to me. Is the too cute win. Total of the year. I understand why they're putting it at ten minus one fifty. I would love to just take over ten and a half I have non-eu when you're talking about him. Escaping i was thinking the shawshank redemption. That's and he has the rocket he just doing what. He's pounding on the pipe to get out of there. It does feel like this but whatever it takes to that other side. If things start going a little poorly or there's any hiccup is he really going to give a shit he'll just like i'm not coming back next year but he doesn't really seem when he's actually on the field he doesn't seem to have that mode. That seems to be reservers personal life. You can't be that good at football and act like he's going to go on the field and not give it his all. Yeah that's the part so so for them to lose for you to lose this bet on the win. Total at ten. They have to go nine. You would have to lose games hitting me. How many times. Aaron rodgers career has he lost more games zero incorrect. One one two thousand eighteen where they bottomed out six nine one hurt. He got hurt that year. Nobody he started sixteen games busy. Yeah you're thinking of twenty seventeen where he got hurt. He was four and three another year six and three shortened seasons. But yeah i mean there's a. There's a reason he's aaron rodgers. He's good he's gonna win a bunch of games and they don't have mccarthy that they have a real coach so and again. He's got good chemistry with the floor. Bahktiar is out until october. They're saying the left tackle. That was a big reason why they ended up getting their ship pushed in a little bit at the championship game but even that man they really. They really blew some opportunities there. Yeah plus seven and turnover margin. Maybe that regresses a little bit. There were four and two in one score games but even that that was only thirty. Two percent of their wins. No jamal williams i. I think i think aaron jones is poised for a for a massive year as well. And i think you say you were bragging riding in the car how many shares of aaron jones you have in the second round back early in the summer. We're just laughing at people. Really aaron jones at the end of the second round. What are you guys doing. Did you not see the last two year. We did the same thing last year. Really guys aaron. He'd sixteen touchdowns. What are you guys doing when you look at their offensive. Production charts. Total devi away. First unadjusted the voa. I waited i passing. I rushing v. I down second second town. I third down second first-half first second half i red zone i. This is just a team that executes and sure you can point to aaron rodgers touchdown percentage last year and say he will regress because his whatever was like nine point one percent super high like just insanely high never dropped my glasses insanely high so sure maybe that regresses but he had eight more touchdowns than anyone else and i don't think many teams actually execute the back shoulder fade like him individual atoms. Can that make it a cheat code and it's just a little different. It's a little different when you have that. play it. Your touchdown percentage is going to go up when you have devante atoms. And when you have that level of trust and you know this is why. It's important to have some context in these stats. His touchdown percentage was really high because he was a nephew mode trying to win the mvp. He did and they were calling a ton of passes on the one yard line. So maybe instead of getting knows. It's aaron jones or it's aj dylan on a essentially a fullback dive or maybe qb sneak. He's they still got down to the one your mask. Do you want aaron rodgers back like do you. Do you want her back. Do you want. Do you want aaron rodgers with your team for more years right like you don't want us to trick question. Yeah of course of course. So why wouldn't you give them the same treatment. So you're gonna leave green bay after back-to-back. Mvp's that was the other thing that was crazy. It's like you won the mvp that why would you leave. The world is going in the wrong direction as colby tells us all the time on. Football's killing the killing Yeah i mean not not to avoid getting into many numbers. But i i think on some levels this The packers more than most teams. I feel like The handicapped this year is much more than anything it. Should we do the schedule. Let's go at new orleans again. Like i love that. First game for aaron rodgers. I love that at new orleans. Detroit on monday night. Football at home at san francisco in front of errands family and pittsburgh at home three. And yeah i who c- who do they lose to. I think between that saints game may be tricky. He has struggled in the bay area. For whatever reason that forty niners defensive line. I think has their number little bit. I'll go through one. maybe the steelers steel one. I don't know it's more just. I don't know which game it is but it's just an aggregate of those four. I think one is a problem at cincy at chicago washington at home at arizona on thursday night. I don't think there. Are they dogs in any of these games. That's a good question. I'm gonna for no i'll go three and one but yeah four knows in the mix. He's at kansas city Maybe that makes a act city on long rest seattle at home at minnesota rams at home. That's a tricky stretch. Say two and two. I don't know what three and i don't see him. Losing the other one the The quadrant before was close to foreign saw. Go three and one three and one for me as well by week super late week. Thirteen than we have chicago at home. Sunday night football at baltimore. Cleveland at home on christmas. Sorry mom can't come home for christmas. He's won't be distracted with family obligations. Chris vikings at home on sunday night football. Just you can circle both. They're not losing the divisional games on sunday night football. They're not listening fucking kirk cousins. Aaron rodgers not losing a baker mayfield on christmas. Nah three one three and one. Yeah shit and then we have To to wrap up the season At detroit will. They need this game. That's that's i. Guess i'll say win boy. I don't think i've i've rah a yeah. They might need it. I better be careful. So we'll just say they win showing you had them going thirteen and four. Yeah i mean back to back thirteen and three years. I wish i had a hotter take on the packers. Say they're gonna completely suck but man you have a two game. I mean eleven and six. And you're still hitting the over you're paying for it with the juice. It's minus one fifty but again aaron rodgers isn't a guy who's gonna lose nine games. No one that's how you know. That are sorry. So even if he lost. Eight games even You would go under there at nine and eight so yeah even that i just tune in three is when i got yeah. Don't wait fourteen and throw. Jesus christ right so are you. Are you like. Where do you like them. On the futures. Then i mean i i feel just as confident with the packers as i do with the bucks i mean i think those are the chalky division a division to me. I think it's i think minus one sixty suggests that i should be scared of the vikings and i you know we'll get to the vikings in a little bit. I i just don't know if it's there. Yeah i mean i guess I guess green bay to win the division at minus sixty is man. I'm gonna throw that nephew up. And i'm going take a six one win the conference. This is a team. That's ben at the doorstep the past two years and and this could be the last hurrah all right. And if you bet that on props up then you got a nice hedge opportunity if they They get to the nfc. Let's add one more. I gave this out earlier in the summer. Somehow him announcing he's coming back and being a training camp as made go down but aaron rodgers To have the most passing touchdowns is now eight two one. Wow really i think it was. Six to one. When i i gave it out miami. I mean there's you would think there's gonna be some regression there but even if there is it's still fun at eight to one my bed. I'm gonna go. Aaron jones over fourteen hundred and a half combined rushing and receiving yards. I i think no jamal williams opens up a ton of opportunity for him. He hit over this number last year. In fourteen games. So again it's tough to reject. He'll play all seventeen but even if you only plays fourteen. I still think he's going to get more volume. 'cause they use your williams a decent amount in the red zone and he got a decent amount of choline. Looks yeah so. I think he I think he takes care of this. So prop then ryan Rogers lead the league in passing touchdowns at eight to one. Yeah i again. I sure i get it. It's a little chalky. But why would who. Who's going to. Who's going to be the guy that that takes the mahomes josh allen. Maybe yeah i mean i get the the the other quarterbacks in that mix that would maybe steeled away from him. But i mean at eight to one. Seren rogers still. There's still a bunch of value there. Yeah i mean just just look at the look at the look at the amount of times he passes in inside the ten to your point well right before we close things out on the packers of course shadow to the brats. Stop the best. Brought shop in america and ryan is wearing the brat. Stop t shirts. Says asked me about my weiner. So ryan how weiner The last i mean my weiner is good wieners in general are good. A like amount of pretzel. Roll man muster. This is gonna be one hell of a transition into manscaping dot com if people are asking about your leaner and saying. Hey what's going on with your weiner man you got clean that thing up you gotta head over to man scape dot com for you can use the promo code s. g. p. for twenty percent off and free shipping twenty percent off and free shipping. Two million men have already joined. The man's skipped movement. Which means if you're not doing it when you get in the bedroom. There are certain expectations that are already set. So if you're not coming in there with the cleaner plainfield. You could be in trouble again if you've ever tried to do this yourself with a manual pair of scissors. Do not recommend it. I've nick. The ol- the coin purse couple of times it is that thing starts bleeding. We've all seen something about mary where the bean is about. The franks may bring in the uh department and to get the fire department. Did you get that. You get the franks about the pains great Great movie is a good question. pray product with landscape. Scape dot com. They also have an ear inn hair trimmer and my old lady's always on my case about my ear. Hair my nose hair again. They have a proprietary skin safe technology which helps prevent knicks snags and tugs on those a delicate areas else. The crap preserver baldi odorant. Oh they got some boxers and a sweet travel back which i use and highly recommend manscaping the lawnmower four point. Oh ken they bring technology. Final note obviously use promo code. She skipped dot com twenty percent off and free shipping. You're balls well. Thank you kramer gains. Let's go of balls or lack there of kirk cousins and the minnesota. Vikings last year sean. Seven and nine. The defense kinda failed them. They weren't the the worst offensive team. They went under Their win total of nine share. It's nine again minus one ten each way plus two fifty to win the division. I've seen a lot of people make that as a sexy pick this year. Twenty two to one to win the nfc fifty to one to win the super bowl. There's nothing i'm more out on the idea of them. Winning the conference or the super bowl hasn't even cross my mind like i haven't even felt a simulation go down that rabbit hole As far as the team love the The kid out of virginia tech offensive lineman should shore up the situation. There a lot of helped the defense You know they they. I don't know if i'm concerned about. Much of their losses we zimmer we like the way he develops a defense. We expect the defense to take a step forward Kirk cousins still hanging on the is it like every year it seems. Are everyone the vikings. Kind of popular. And mike zimmer generally gets the most juice out of the fruit up there in minnesota they have an awesome home field advantage. Speaking at crowd being back the spaceships dynamic. At least during the day when campbell fifty two can't blow it But is the defense going to step forward enough to to hang in there if the offense isn't it because it does seem like this team this team's headed in the right direction. Yeah and again. They also they are one of those teams where a home homefield really my thinking. Noise ho mike leach. Feel though so much pull the mike leach sound effects Those are great hope. Fields is gonna matter since two thousand sixteen. Minnesota had a twenty four nine twenty four nine record and it was twenty one nine in three against the spread at home so at home non prime time team you want to bet on. Zimmer was fired up with that defense saying it was like the worst defense ever had the not going to let that happen again. And you kinda gotta believe him. Nothing crazy as far as the turnover margin one score games. I mean there were three and three and three point games six and four and one score games nothing nothing crazy outlier there and and they had a pretty tough schedule last year They didn't get unlucky from a from an expected. Wins or pie. Tag perspective sean but this year. The schedule's pretty tough again. according to the football outsiders at seventh you were talking about zimmer earlier i did jot down a quote from him that he's talking to the team he he's been telling them we can't start winning until we stopped losing and if that isn't some mind blown coachspeak i i don't know what is My concern with this team is that we i do. Trust her to have the defense taking a step forward. They just don't have much of a ceiling with kirk cousins. Is i wrote it down on my notes. Kirk cousins is kurt cousins. And not to not to get you met but we don't. We know who are. Cousins is law some of these second year quarterback even a third year quarterback maybe make a jump and show you a different level to their game but kirk cousins is kirk cousins. And you know. Maybe he's gonna spend his time in the locker room in a plastic phone booth but regardless he's going to be a guy who has consistent stats but lacks top level. Play when you're driving to the stadium on sunday as defensive coordinator. You're not worried about stopping her cousins. No but the to the other side of it they do have delving cook. They do have just jefferson. They do have adam theline like they have a bunch of guys around him. That can help. Carry the offense buzz but can they carry to a crazy ceiling. That's tough to predict and a and we've seen kirk cousins perform really well the last two years i think you look at a lot of his throwing metrics Well above career averages at a lot of things yards per temp Touchdown percentages Lows on intercept. So i i don't believe in kirk cousins. I don't necessarily believe this. Offense has a ton of room to take a step forward and so unless the defense really takes a huge a massive step forward. It's unlikely this team's gonna win enough games to threaten in this division now. Are they going to be an interesting Team in the wild card race. Probably probably. Because i think we're going to see a situation where you know you. You have nine wins. Ten wins definitely in the. Nfc is probably going to get you in. So it's hard i would say that. Here's what i'll say about minnesota. We're gonna go through the schedule. I've already peaked at this one too. I feel like it's hard to get them below like you'll see there a tight. They have a very narrow like outcome. I feel like this team. No it's not gonna they're not. There's no way they're going to be like a four win team and i zero chance. They're going to be at twelve one. Yeah it it. It does feel like it's going to be eight to ten wins but again normally the vikings are a fun team to bet on against the spread. Zimmer has a great record with them there are only six and tan against the spread one of the tied for second worse only the cowboys worse against the spread Five and eleven people wonder why we always be against the cowboys. That's an easy eleven five stack. I had last year so minnesota's normally a team. You like betting on against the spread last year. Six and ten. It does feel like it's gonna correct itself a little bit. But maybe maybe it already is corrected itself as far as like where the lines are They're favored in nine games. But by like an average of like point one so it seems pretty neutral like there's that super high expectations but again. That's the vikings right. Well that's why the win totals nine right. It's it's it could. Nine is the new age sean. It's right down the middle. I mean slightly. Above average in terms of wind win total. You wanna get through the schedule. Let's go minnesota at cincinnati. I feel like that's a pretty decent draw for them to get catch the bangles borough. I still don't think is going to be healthy at arizona week to seattle at home cleveland at home. Those are tough spots hard to see them Are we saying do we say. Do we dare say three and one here. Could they get off to a hot start. Sean vikings. They're one of those t- shit i don't i don't know i mean the schedule does toughen up. I you know what the problem is. The bengals game is so obvious. Everyone's already bet. The vikings to beat the bengals week. One and it's hard to build a case against it. Act cardinals that could be a slip up seahawks at home and then browns at home. I'll stay tuned to. Yeah i'm gonna say two and two but maybe three in one. Because of that. Bengals game tune to detroit at carolina by week seven and then we have dallas on sunday. Night football shit. That is a real ryan. That is sophie's choice either. Take kirk cousins at home or take the cowboys kirk cousins at home in prime time and then at baltimore to close that segment out to her cousins can't win and wins once in a while in prime time he can beat the cowboys. Two and two. I'm going to say to until but again. Yeah i i just want to see to into every time with the steam. Aah chargers green bay at home at niners at detroit. This is a tricky one. I'm going to say one three. That is a really tough stretch and again. They're they're not the same team on the road that they are at home. And and i think that home to it's really gonna matter for them all right next up. We got pittsburgh at chicago rams at home at green bay. Jesus christ pittsburgh was a thursday night game to well. That's at least at home at home. It's going be a tough spot for the steelers. I'll go to until they get. They could go on and three here for sean. That's three primetime games. Sorry pittsburgh thursday night. Football go monday night. Football three rams at home time. I'll go one in three as well. And then i have. I have the bears beating them right. I gave the bears the bonus game. Yeah think you did no. We both have the bears losing okay. I'm probably eight nine right army. Nine your seven and ten. Yeah i mean. I don't know and we were. You were close to going six in eleven because the first four zero but again even just looking at this number nine. I think the play is under again. I will not be locking up this win. Total because mike zimmer getting this team tonight in eight is not crazy then to win. The division at plus two fifty makes no sense. I don't see that path. All the futures. I would rather take bears the win. The division plus five fifty. If we're going to take someone. Besides the packers bears in vikings are pretty even. I don't see one and a half game win difference between there. I i see why it's priced that way. But i have the bears and the vikings way closer to even than than that. Vikings miss playoffs minus one forty. Yeah i'm gonna. I'm gonna get down on. That is that. I'm going to stay away so i'm just. I'm just going to stay. No on urge is just going to stay on the under. Because idea that zimmer pulls it out and they get denied in eight that's not again. That's not a crazy place for this team to get to the Packers the make. The playoffs is only minus two eighty. That's pretty wild right. What do you got for your prop bet on the minnesota vikings kirk cousins to go under touchdowns twenty eight and a half shed one lock it up a little reason and it's not it's not even. I think their offense is going to be that bad. I'm just super high end. Alvin cook. I didn't want to give over rushing yards because i've been giving out so much davin cooker eddie. But there's multiple ways they get to that. It's like one. He's he just doesn't throw twenty nine passing touchdowns because the offense isn't that good but to they just give it to cook allow when these close to the goal. I think you have that. I think you have to re going to be some sort of feeling touchdown regression. And he's a target number two in the red zone dalvin cokes target number. One target number three is playing for the giants in kyle. Rudolph and i don't know of irv smith just going to be that guy obviously kirk cousins in colorado have had some chemistry so i think for a lot of reasons Also maybe less possessions in general in the red zone because the defense is better. You know yada yada yada there. Go under plus i mean. I don't know if you heard. How many let me get a final count. Minnesota has one two three four primetime games as of right now. So i mean if it's if it's not broken don't fix it right and that certainly applies the kirk cousins who is broken when it comes to prime time games ryan. We have a special guest joining us when we break down the detroit lions but before we do. Let's hear about the beautiful game. In the summer of soccer continues on paramount plus stream over two thousand soccer matches a year from around the world. that's all the heart pounding drama from. Cbs sports including uefa champions league. Europa league italy's syria argentina's premier division the brasilia arrow the end w. s. l. the asian football confederation and the concacaf qualifiers featuring the stars from the us mexican. Men's national teams plus. Much more. it's the best of the beautiful game with all the beautiful names. Like messy imbaba rinaldo. Regino pulisic be. Part of the excitement is champions are crowned and history is made. The world's game lives here on paramount plus visit paramount plus dot com to start your free trial and stream every match live joining us on the line. He is the ninety seven one. The ticket huge detroit sports fan lions expert dan leach hacking but here live. Football's right around the corner. How do you feel about your lines. Going into two thousand twenty one jarrell terrible to listen and you guys these these. These hits many times to my favorite guys. I and i was thinking about this. When i knew was coming out with you. I am absolute slap when it comes to the lines the michigan wolverines. And i've always been that way. It's armide charge obviously a objective. And i'm not saying fourteen to every year in a regular season. You're on the air. It's seventeen but normally wait too high in the lions and way too high in michigan for both for whatever reason maybe of growing up eighty on decided the knoppien idiot or something. I think michigan's get a sock. And i think the lions are the lights could really be set up for the future when it comes to. What bradshaw colds. The gm is doing. What dan campbell might be. If you bite featured apps up doesn't get too far but this year they're going to be terrible and it's there's nothing wrong with that. I want them to be in games. Late win a couple of games. They're not supposed to but it's all about growing in luckily have this great. I mean at least paper Coaching staff would against the guys like aaron. Bland when it comes to anthony lennon's were previous head coach barker other quarterbacks coach so excited about that but there is no i have. I have to talk people down and say listen. I'm always up for anything. And i don't want to give people ramat believe lines are growing like what is like what. What are what are you talking people down from some people. I got seven ten. And you gotta talk down from that. Or how high how. What's the what's the highest prediction. You've heard about the lights you don't even want to. I mean guys that actually are somewhat reasonable idiots. But that's what i love. There's somewhat reasonable. I think the lines are not only going to be a playoff fever with like eleven or twelve. The guys out of your frigging minds. And i like i said i'm high on this team higher than i should be so times but also i gotta since i've been in broadcast it'd be based reality. Not a kid at middle school anymore. Losing four hundred hours before the class starts and betting the aldea carleen cards. You got to be realistic. And this is about getting rid of illicit. I was one of the two or three media members that the city to brag about those are the two or three media members of detroit trish actually lights for for better or worse he was gone he was read. He was terrible with the team. He was terrible with the media. Matters as much as the team. And you've ever seen as many as you guys saw players former players going crazy excitement and almost laughing at him on twitter social media. Would he got fired so that there are a lot of dancing on the patricia grave. He has someone as a casual fan at did drive me crazy and i think mike lombardi fellow visa guys pointed out as well but he has a pencil behind his ear and then he has a laminated play sheet you use a pencil on a laminated piece of pay. That's i mean. I know that you don't have to pretend like you're also taking the sat's like ready to ready to bubble in some scantron. What what what message are you trying to send. He didn't really come off authentic. it was just. Hey i know bill belichick. I'm gonna be bill belichick and as much as it's easy to goof on dan campbell so far and the baiji kneecaps but he at least seems true to himself and to me when he was talking about slamming seventy. Ounces of coffee i go. That's a guy. Nike relate to and he's a guy that back in the day when i played football night school. I know many a dan campbell. Type i can relate to them. And i think i think players will relate to the guy. Does he have the scheme. But i think you nailed on a great point there. He has a lot of former head coaches at on the position. And maybe you know in the same way that like best case scenario down the line. Tomlin who maybe isn't the greatest xs and os guy has good coordinators at. But it's like a good. Hey gets the players gets game flow like that's that's what you're if you're lions fan. That's what you're trying to talk by the way. Just to touch on one about patricia whether it was fair or not he was dude ever since he literally got started with sexual assault allegations. That was a whole. Yeah just ruined it whether it was fair. Not everything for many reasons to a hundred. You guys are wearing my net. Staffer goats shirts. Obviously but if that stafford is the only place you will go as new england because patricia's there you got problems so the player back to your point. I you understanding. My point is brilliant orange. And it's all on paper we know but look at and you mentioned was a great example when it comes to a lot of times you guys like or report. Relax coaches mardi morning niagara guys. That were good coordinators. Terrible head coaches. You gotta be able to delegate. You can't do it on your own especially today's fell. You've got do staley's coach roy. That's great great homage anthony lynn or coaching. You know for the shot. You got mark brunell. Eight freely o line coach. You got its randall. All the wide receivers coach you got guys that played in the league high levels or a long period of time players will respect that it was the opposite of what you saw with tricia his assistance. And that is what gives me hope anyone that thinks this team and tools with floated four half five. Anyone that's thinking about seriously going old and another seventeen games in the lives of the six schedule. They do say you're being insane. Yeah let me. Can i just while. We're talking about the great dane campbell. He's given us so much already but i did. I wanted to be just a little quote that really resonated with me I love the fact that we're known as meat heads. I'm a meat head. I have limited brain capacity. I liked that. I'm good with that. I have zero problem with that. Dan campbell speaking to chris spielman in the hallways of lines out earlier this week when they was say fighter. I guess the way they did the seventeen year. Long snapper bed favored down. We will that. It was his birthday as fortieth birthday. Did not require on his birthday. Like the guy like you said he is that yes. He's the he's the anti patristic is tricia was faking all that stuff and try to be authentic. It's check. that's why i respect campbell. And i love. The grand rooms is trying to do. The guy comes in i ever. Gm job was always going to draft to the college guys who lines of needed. Not a pro scout guy. Like bob win was who did really next to nothing super hodgkinson. But i'll tell you this you look at what holds it moving on stafford who i love. I was a huge forgot. I started years ago when i moved back and it was getting my act together. I'm not just getting silver. To weight is the weight on you stabber. A restaurant called jailings zander's when he's a rookie. He is a great guy. Cared about the fan base geared about the franchise but it was time to move on. Yeah a good run. Yeah listen wasn't his fault he had been there. If you want to try to believe staffer which will date ear. They call them stat at all. That's you're being you're being shortsighted ceiling but it was time to move on jerk off not not enough to me. I like it. It degenerates playing poker. Which i love. It's like having aces you. Can you can fold jared goff. You bet the pot on him. You could just call. You can live in. Who knows what goff's be but about the future. You have flexibility with your golf. Yeah i mean. I would be surprised if jared goff is the long-term answer answer in detroit too and he doesn't mcveigh and his helmet will see the the jared goff dan campbell relationship to me. These guys seem polar opposites a warm weather quarterback who doesn't know where the sunrise versus dan. Campbell i maybe in middle sits attract and they can make it work peel away. The layers of jared goff at some point hyper competitive athlete. Number one pick in the national football league years last year. Ep russell wilson on the road in the playoffs. That is this. Something there jared goff but there must be something there you know. Sometimes it's just one ingredient that was causing. The dish tastes like shit. Take a little of that. West coast pressure saw that. Sean mcveigh shut the fuck up dude pressure salt and maybe this is the place he needs to be. Maybe he needs to have a simpler set of coaches around him maybe he wasn't made for the fucking nerds. Version of football aka. Sean fuck in mcveigh. The lives could have done much. Worse in a trade. For stafford jared goff could not look and jeff kapela too. I mean i think for the lions like a best case scenario is kind of what the panthers did last year new head coach where they are competitive and games covering some of these spreads because they're getting a bunch of points but ultimately only five wins but you see some progress or promise for the next one. Let's let me quick hammer these out a while. We're talking about because the wind totals at four and a half over minus one fifty under plus one twenty they of course five and eleven going under six and a half to win the division. This is insane. I mean this is almost insane. Just because there's only four teams twenty eight to one and one hundred one super bowl. Two hundred to one sean to make the playoffs. Seven teams make the playoffs to make the playoffs. Seven hundred fifty seven and after one minus fourteen hundred. They missed the playoffs. Obviously probably the odds on favorite to be the worst team in the nfc. It is interesting. The juice is right now because it's moved down to four and a half minus one fifty on the over. So you gotta get mayors. You're getting plus odds to take the under on the lion. That's how often does that happen. We got. We got dogs on the team. Jamal williams yes. We are super high on jamal williams this year and fantasy one because anthony. Lynn likes and anthony. Lynn has been very straightforward. As far as he says he likes the guy. That guy is going to get a bunch of targets a bunch of carries. And i'm not quite as on andrea swift. And he's a little overdrafted. Fantasy wise but jamal williams. I think and i'll i'll jump ahead to my prop ed jamal williams over five twenty five and a half rush yards. I really liked that as a hamid two in a row with me. I want to ask dan. He's closer to the situation. We're obviously just reading. The the reporters words jamal williams is gonna have a meaningful role in this offense deandre right okay very very meaty role aid and you mentioned slipped. I logged the. Because i know is that it probably especially in detroit lease be drafted way too high over travel. Look at that one two punch their listen the pets of line. You got these sewell. Well obviously he was a steal at twenty one. You look at earth for the first round where they took up. You look at by tie rack. Our rag iraq's offensive line could be a lot better people say it's going to be but it's going to be a one two things and the risk a lot of injury problems so jill williams is done it before you mentioned that he likes. I like anthony. Let his work. I think he's going to kinda big things offense you know there's not the wide receiver. Death does not exist. So let's calvin johnson. Let's stop bashing aligns after all so you're going to see the lions under dan. Gamble's premise is be this rough-and-tumble team be kneecaps off. Defense but really gritty on offense. I think you're gonna get a lot of aries for swift and a lot of curious. I like your your feeling on that. Jim williams prop but i think the swiss can out. Pretty good you're out of the back. What about a kind of keep an eye on on raw saint brown. There's a lot of rumors that maybe he's going to be involved. Maybe currently we do a ton of the underdog best balls ignite use the promo code s. u. p. and get a free twenty five bucks but the the best ball where you were. You drafted eighteen rounds as it were taking a shot on on raw saint brand. What have you heard about him so far. And i'll tell you if you're gonna look at it and we know you guys know this the for a long time in many many training camps and i will tell you one of the last few times that i really do something. Special was the first time. I saw kennedy He's been he's been buzzed. Say he has been probably. I don't wanna see the greatest player in camp because that's not true but when you think about the guys that i trust the cover the tv lot closer than i do. They're there every day and all the different things you've seen in in training camp which is not a ton to read and do sometimes I'm trying to remember represent right now. He came from the broncos. And the rams the running back and won a super bowl we li- he looked at a couple of years ago to and getting caught. But he's say brown has gotten a lot of oz and i think he's going to listen. It's the one position that you're completely lacking. Let's all do respect the pyramid williams. Yeah you got some retreads. But he's going to be a part of this offense gerry goffin Already have you've already seen that or training apt that's true and we'll see progress yet. He's definitely worthy of some of szoboszlai. Now I saw i saw someone. Make a reference to the looked like the report that A young jared goff built with cooper cup so if that if that's true i mean we need an sean little. I read that a week. you. I've been picking up shares of brown invest. Because again you can get free at the end. They're they're to me as as the ultimate contrary. And i will say i have. I mean much like. I went on limit and throughout the texans to make the playoffs fun. A fun prophet eighteen to one. I i am. I am finding myself thinking the detroit. Lions are going to be a fun team to take cover this. I if we finish this year there dan campbell finishes like eleven six against the spread or something like that. 'cause this team will and ryan their favorite in zero games right now headline favored at zero games. And by the way c. j. anderson the. Oh that's right yeah he. He looked great traded. W got so. It's one of these things where i think the perfect. This is why you know with all due respect to my sycophantic for idiots rats. That are saying ten wins. I mean come on that. What i can see is the lines will probably get zero games. They might be double digits. Dogs plenty of them. I don't wanna say after the. Nfl still is irritated. But i could see being. It's wins five six or seven games. That is it a ton weight the sixteen team. That was an nothing anything the system they were over half their games. Those games kim the problem. So i think that's the the high side little lines the win a couple of games. They shouldn't cover a bunch of games winning sprint records. But they're they're not gonna win more than five sets but they'll they'll have a chance to win a bunch of games that they shouldn't in a lose them because they're not ready to win. You know the kind of horses staff to be able to beat. you might green bay chicago. Even though i think they're going to be doubted. Subways in certain situations so in minnesota for sure in the division. That's where that would want. You can get the over-under on detroit. Division wins is one and a half again. Same thing you gotta do minus if you had to take one. Fi