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Best of The Program | Guests: Eric Schmitt & John Mueller | 7/22/20

The Glenn Beck Program

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Best of The Program | Guests: Eric Schmitt & John Mueller | 7/22/20

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Claims that the no chokehold ban is making their job harder. And Eric Schmidt Missouri Attorney General Joins Glen had talked about dismissing charges that were brought against the St Louis couple the mccloskey's. And finally. Is Everything, Okay with Kanye West, his social media rance show wanted to Boris from his wife Kim. and. He compared his mother-in-law to Kim Jong Un. All this more coming up on the podcast today. Poll By the way. Has Anybody noticed the the very strange relationship between? The clan and what they preach and Blm and what they preach. It is this bizarre world where they seem to be. They seem to be okay with each other right now. At least they claim not to be okay, but they're saying exactly the same things do. Do you know what I say Pat. Ya Yeah. Yeah, the woke kness is very close to a exactly. What the racist! I mean it's exact. There's a comedian on Youtube. I WanNa play what he he he he and his friend went out, and they played one was woke, and the other one was a racist and listen to the conversation for me and Bradford's I didn't think we'd get along, but turns out. We kind of agree on everything you raise. Your identity is the most important thing. Everything's look through the Lens of race you. Both have a lot of. People of Color, even though we barely know any colored people, but as long as classifying them, we both think minorities are a united group who think the same anak the same in both say you don't WanNa lose your blackboard. Sorry I. Don't know I. Just Think Grecia Rollback Discrimination. Race again now you own me Echo. DSP white actors should only voices for white cartoon character, and saying that for years stick to your own white people. We have so much privileged I agree, and it's a privilege to be white. Asked him about interracial dating. All I say. Is that black men date? White women have internalized racism and white men date. Ethnic women are fetish guys against interracial dating now being ranked did rumor. Would you up to this? Is White on like you should be making white foods, kraft macaroni and cheese. Not, even salt. It's like he's a mind reader. I mean I've been pushing for segregation forever in my man does what I created an Improv comedy show exclusively for ethnic guy segregates comedy on my birthday why people need to stop wearing dreadlocks and the stop appropriating black people's music shaped heads and country music the way God intended. All White People Are Racist I'm listening even if you have a black, white or a black, you're still really racist. You kick the organization forever and block girlfriend, but if you can promise me still really racist, we'll consider letting him back in populous. You don't shop at black is. The only thing we really disagree about is I think white people are the root of all evil. What did I? Tell you though if we can narrow that down to a certain group of tiny, how did white people I think we can come to an understanding? TECHNICALLY CONSIDER JEWISH PEOPLE NEITHER DO I. mean. That's incredible initiative yeah. It's exactly what's going on. They agree with each the two sides now. They're in agreement they do. Yeah I mean Martin Luther. King would be against the black lives movement. The. Black lives matter movement is is absolutely the opposite of what he taught and. I? Don't know how people aren't seeing that this is this is racist. He exactly what's going on is all racist. program. Are you. Good Morning. I'm great good. Morning So first of all. How are your officers doing through all of this before we get into the rest, how are your guys? Handling, what's happening in the country and in Yonkers I assume? The the The Oscars police the men and women of the ockers Police Department of have been doing an amazing incredible outstanding job. They're fantastic through all of this you know we made a lot of deposits in our community bank account, and so a lot of the things you're seeing across the nation, Glen. You're not seeing in in the city of Yakkers. Thanks to a mayor who supports his police department and You know we're just. We're getting through it pretty well. Good I'm glad to hear it now. You have decided. With the city that you are no longer going to Santa yonkers officer across the city line. You're right there on the line of New York City. What does that mean? And why did you do that? Well what it means is that New York City Council passed legislation that essentially made an impossible standard to meet the officers and if they do not meet this impossible standard, they're gonNA. Be Subjected to criminal liability and I couldn't in good conscience. Allow that to happen. You know This was a hastily crafted irresponsible law. I'm hoping that they would circle back and listen to the experts and then wipe pd who. Have one of the greatest departments one of the most progressive departments, but right now it seems like everyone is operating in an echo chamber, and the result of that is is hastily prepared laws that really put people in jeopardy for for for, and they're not listening. To to everybody, it just seems like the People WanNa. Talk each other talking each other over and over and again. Well the thing that you know you bring up that this. The they've set in a ridiculous standard that no one could ever accomplish hundred percent of the time. Can you get specific on that? What? What was it that they passed city council? So they passed an anti chokehold bill, and so just for the record. Let's start with the actual vocals I nor the NYPD is has a problem with show codes being banned. That's absolutely not I. Mean I think sometimes people completing the issues, but in this case the chokehold is not the issue. It's the need of the back or the chest so essentially what they're saying the council. Council the way they wrote the law. It is so restrictive that if you happen to put an inadvertent knee on someone's chest or someone's back, you will be subject to criminal prosecution so when you're wrestling with someone. If you're knee happens to touch their chest back. There's an opportunity there for a prosecutor to want to prosecute you under the statue and we just can't have that. And you go to jail. The police officer goes to jail if they do that, right? Yes and I, you know it's just a position that we took in Yorker supported by Mayor Spaniel that we were not going to be a test case for such irresponsible legislation and my heart goes out to the NYPD I spoke with chief Monahan the chief of patrol, fantastic guy, progressive, police, leader, and expressed. You know how sad I was about this, because this is just an example of of going too far and not talking to everybody. So. Tell me how you arrest someone because I saw the shooting in Atlanta, and that guy what seemed to be totally cool, and then all of a sudden, he flipped on A. And just went crazy. And there's no way they could have put him into coughs which they were trying to do if they wouldn't have pinned him to the ground so John. How is a police officer with somebody WHO's fighting them? How is he supposed to keep them down without putting his weight on the main part of their body. That's correct when you've nailed it putting their made on their weight on the main part of the body. Let's keep in mind that this is not a George Floyd situation. Where there was pressure on a next for nine minutes. this is. where it could be five seconds to maintain control, and what I might like to add it is. Is that the safest way to take a violently resisting suspect into custody to get him handcuffed as quickly as possible when you, when you're able to knock that time down where there is the struggle point, and they're not in handcuffs. That's where the highest likelihood and the most propensity is for a subject of arrest to be injured or a police officer. Be Injured so this almost as teams to be counterintuitive to what I think they were trying to do, but when they're not listening or they're not willing to exchange different perspectives. This is what you get. So. What is what is? What is this really going to mean to? New York yesterday? CNN were talking about the all the problems in New York the radical spike. In New York of of problems is caused by Donald Trump, and the Republicans for not. Passing new gun legislation that is so ridiculous, it is something right out of nineteen eighty four in newspeak it. Everyone with any kind of commonsense knows that the cops are afraid to do anything they're being told not to do anything and that's what's causing the the rise in crime. The bad guys have the upper hand. What does this mean for new? York? City to be isolated like this and not have other officers run in. It is really a problem for New York City and sadly, and you used the the two most important words probably right now, that we need to be more heedful of is common sense, and there is no common sense right now when you pass legislation like this, and unfortunately what you what you find. Glenn is the folks that need us most in communities color in neighborhoods that that have issues with poverty. They need the police. They need good police they need. They need good solid policing We understand about police reform. We're for many different aspects of police reform. You know this is a very This business that shifts and changed. You have to be situationally agile. You have to be able to move. You know as time goes on, but we enjoyed a historic drop in crime I was in New York City police officer for very short time. Time in Nineteen ninety-two, and at that time I believe there was around two thousand one hundred murders now last year I think it was around three hundred. That's nothing short of miraculous now. Could we have done things better? Of course we could but but what you're seeing now is a reversal of this, and you know the one thing you want officers to come to work and feel like they're wanted and needed and appreciated respected and valued. Because when you do that. They're going to go out and they're going to interact with the community and value and respect and listen to what they have to say I. It's really a win. Win Situation so what we're trying to do here is just to bring you know little. Listen at the end of the day I. Have I'm responsible the city of yonkers. And Police Commissioner there. I work at the behest of the mayor. And you know this was just something that I'm not going to go down this rock I. See bad things as a result of. Icy rising crime. Is You know this is just one example of? steps that have been taken without talking to the experts, and then why PD and like I said they are the light. They have gone all over the world. People have come from all over the world to learn how the only pd does policing so when they say something like this is a problem and again I don't believe I'm not going to speak for commissioner. Commissioner. Shea, but it's my understanding. They're fine with the chokehold band. It's the knee on the back the knee compressing the chest. That is the issue and I think when you explain it to. People like you and I are talking right now I think the overwhelming majority of people are going to say okay. Yeah I get that, but right now it seems like the most shrill. The the the loudest minority like if you scream the loudest in the minority group a small minority that just wants to yell and scream. You're taking away reasonable commonsense. You're taking away people that are willing to listen and go back and forth and exchange ideas to get where we want to get in terms of policing in America. John at me out on something because you've been with police for. When did you join the force? I started in the news ninety two transferred to yonkers and ninety four and I've been there ever since, so he's talking about twenty eight years all right. Okay so what is it like for a guy who I assume? was on duty, or was called onto duty on nine eleven, a guy who witnessed that, and then went through the months of every New Yorker and everybody saying, thank you, thank you, thank you, knowing that are first responders. Go through hell that none of us want to go through. And being that that guy or that group of people that was probably put too far up on a pedestal, but now twenty years later. Your hated. How what does that swing feel like? Well I think I think we have to be mindful that I don't know if we're hated I think I think that the hateful small segment of the population is very right now. Their voices are very amplified, and it seems like they seem to be the darling of certain media outlets, so it seems like we're hated, but the truth is Glen I can tell you this with confidence or communities communities of. Of Color our communities, all over yonkers and I imagine the same in New, York City support the police. They want police. They want good policing. They WANNA feel safe because of the police and they wanNA feel secure with the way we police right, and we're constantly working towards that goal way before this and I'll even do you one better. We were appreciated during our officers did a fantastic job during coalpit. Where you know New York City New York in general was the epicenter you know with many many many cases, and probably whereas all started, but at the end of the day people really appreciate it us, and then it all kind of fell apart, but I think the key is Glenn is and continue to engage your community to talk with them to exchange ideas and take the time to have discussions real conversations. Not when someone's screaming at you're trying. Trying to coerce you to do something because that's not what professionals do professional stand up and professionals assess situations, and they take the time to talk to people, and and then you. You arrive at decisions that that's what they're paying us for Unfortunately, it appears that you know sadly. The New York City Council has no interest in talking to Commissioners Shea or the leadership of the NYPD which is second to none in policing the entire John I've got a cut our conversation short. Unfortunately, but I I WANNA ask you one more question, short, and this goes to just your general. Your general feeling with what's going on. Let's say right now in Portland the governor and the mayor. They're screaming that the the FEDS are there and they're kidnapping people in the street at Cetera, et, Cetera and they want nothing to do with. Is the president. Do you believe? Is he right and I don't want to make this about the president. So if you were president, would you be doing similar things? Are we reacting or are we overreacting or under reacting on these cities where they don't seem to enforce the law at all? It's a great question. Because in a democracy, these are these are the steps that you know Western. Civilization has to take to get where they need to be like there was a there was a a transformation when like I, said the twenty three hundred murders in New York, city people got to the point where they said enough is enough and we need. You know really good clean. A crime strategies to get us where people feel safe and secure, it's. It's the same thing in Portland e- your, there's going to be a consequence for lawlessness. There is and you hope that people will take a look at it and say I. Don't think this is exactly the good way to go that. You know we have elected leadership saying well, you know we have to let people vent, but venting is one thing. It's Ok to say how you feel. It's okay to be frustrated angry. It's not okay to. To damage property, it's not okay to try to hurt police officers and I think what you're seeing. There is really a responsible among elected leadership, and you hope that eventually people will take notice of it and say this just isn't the way we can do things I mean. It's fifty five days now, and it's it's. It's thirty million dollars worth of property damage. Like at what point does anyone say this is absolutely? This is a disaster we have to. To, try to figure out a way to to secure and reclaim the streets and not allow people to get hurt and not allow lawlessness. That's I mean that's the answer, so you'll, it's only it's the same thing with the decisions made here. It lays at the feet of the elected officials. You know someday you hope consequences. People Say I. Don't WanNa live through this again. This is not the way to achieve change especially for fifty five days. John Miller. He is the. New York City or New York. police commissioner from yonkers New York and we really appreciate your time and tell your officers millions of Americans do have their back. We're behind you guys. Thank you John Really appreciate that. Thank you so. This is the best of the Glenn, Beck Program. Eric Welcome to the program Sir. Great to be with you. So tell me. Tell me what. Tell me what you guys are going to do. I know the governor said he would pardon them if they're convicted, but you have the castle doctrine. How can these people even have to face a day in court? Well they shouldn't. The charges should never been brought in the first place. gwen I mean this amounts to. Pure and simple of political prosecution, which in the United States of America's very dangerous idea that you've got a local prosecuting bring the full force of the government against law, abiding citizens who were protecting their home and their lives and they're facing four years in prison i. mean in fact that thinking. I think it has it could have a chilling effect on people. Their fundamental right of defense which is you know is deeply rooted deeply rooted in this country. It predates our Constitution the idea that you can send yourself. It's interest second. Amendment in Missouri it's in our Constitution is recently. It's twenty fourteen. It was even expanded to make sure that any infringement on would would be met with strict certain strict scrutiny by the courts. Courts, but Missouri also has the most expensive castle doctrine in the country. And what do I mean by that I mean that you have a right of your threatened to not just defend your life or your family members lives, and not just your castle your home, but your property and that's exactly what can play here, so it is time where you've got you know. calls in to fund the police spiking violent crime rates including in Saint Louis. It reached over one hundred thirty five murders already this year. You've got a prosecutor. Target targeting. Individuals targeting this law abiding citizens for exercising this fundamental right so I it's incumbent upon these attorney general I felt somebody to do something about this, so we're stepping into the case and we're seeking a dismissal, because it's my belief that the entire state has an interest in being involved in this case because of the chilling affect. You you know high profile prosecution like this Glenn where people feel like if they defend their property or their own lives. If they might be sent to prison, themselves is completely outrageous. I will tell you that I mean. We are in so much trouble and you know I. Thank you for the work that you are doing with several other attorney generals. Across the nation to point out how much trouble we're in. You know this prosecutor is taking money from George Soros. it seems to me that the Attorney General's and the prosecutors locally that have taken money from George Soros are the ones that are all letting prisoners go and charging all the wrong people, but if if you allow this to stand God help us in the future is someone can come in and take your stuff or burn your house to the ground and receive no punishment at all, but if you try to stop somebody from doing it, you, you go to jail. A world of the insane. Completely upside down Glen and I've you my job as the Attorney General? The Great State of Missouri is the last line of Defense I mean again. These charges should not have been brought, but this is a political prosecution by a local prosecutor. Has An abysmal record of actually prosecuting violent crime, and she's the cove in nineteen pandemic to release dozens and dozens of inmates charged with violent crimes out onto the streets, including people. who were you know had guys out on restaurant? Workers attacked cab drivers. These people were let loose you know, and you got again the backdrop here of defunding the police. So this you actually did call somebody to come and help. There wouldn't be the money there to. To support that effort in in our founders knew that in those instances right the right to defend yourself is paramount. It's a natural right. We're all born with in government is our shared project to protect our rights not to take them away, and that's what this prosecutor is doing, and so you know it's time that we stand up to this kind of nonsense. It's i. mean this is a political statement. I mean this is a criminal prosecution with. This is this is. This is one of the most dangerous things I. Have Seen possibly in my lifetime. In America, because this is not what just one prosecutor. The Massachusetts Attorney General. Maura Healey come out and said yes. America is burning, but that's how a forest grows. We are looking at people who are in charge of our laws and law enforcement, and and they are rooting for the burning down of this nation. We are not just having some little disagreements. IT IS A. Excuse the expression, black and white reversal of all that we hold dear. That is happening with some of these prosecutors in Attorney General's. Can you speak to that at all? Yeah, look, this is a fight for the rule of law. What kind of country do we want to have right? Do we want to have a country where? People can speak their minds freely in the town square right The people can exercise fundamental rights the idea that you know. A debate is being shut down now by a culture. That's completely out of control. I mean all these things are on the table, but the most basic thing public safety is at stake here. You have people who want to dismantle into fund a law. Law Enforcement You know those law. Enforcement officers are standing on the thin Blue Line between chaos and order and you know they're under assault by by a lot of local prosecutors and activists, and and it's wrong, and and so anyway we need to stand up to this and I and I believe we can do it but but you know in moments like this. When these charges are filed, that's the crucible right and got to decide. You're going to stand up for the rule of law. You'RE GONNA. Stand up for the second and stand up for these important things that we believe in as Americans and that's what I'm doing right now and we're not backing down. Well I? Thank God that you are in that role. In Missouri because Missouri is I, mean look we. We all are in the same. We're all in the same boat. There are some places that are worse. You know New York. Los Angeles. SEATTLE? Portland crime is out of control, and what is is just as frightening as what's happening in Missouri with this case is the idea that they are now blaming the crime and the murder rate going up, not on any of the disruption, not on defending the police, not on no-one being arrested in our prisons, being opened up there blaming it on guns. And so they'll take more guns away from law abiding citizens who are scared out of their mind, because they don't know if they can call the police and the police will show up. Yeah well you've got A violent crime is spiking as I mentioned in Saint Louis Kansas. City, in Missouri is always been a bit of a microcosm for the country right? We've got two major metro areas saint, Louis and Kansas City You know perky. Sort of a demographic of layout that that reflects the country and Missouri's always been kind of a reflection. What's going on and what we're seeing is rising violent crime rates. You're seeing that across the country. In the face of that the answer by by those on the left is to define police departments, and the other thing is criminals have been emboldened if they don't believe that they're gonna be held accountable or prosecuted for carjackings and murders You know we're going to get what we've got, so we've got A. WE'VE got to stand up to that, and it's vocal prosecutor in Saint Louis He's brought these charges with all of those things happening in Saint Louis carjacking a day still last year alone in the city of Saint Louis or three, hundred sixty plus carjackings. One hundred and thirty five murders, and she's spending her time. instead of taking care of those issues by targeting law abiding citizens who are exercising their fundamental right to Self-defense. It's an upside down world, but again why it's important. then. Is She in the mainstream of? The people of Missouri I mean do do do. Is this what people are crying out for? No I don't reproach I. Could I hope not? I don't believe that to be the case that people have reached out to our officers, really appreciative that we stood up here and you know are entering this fight because my job is ag is to represent six million missourians the rule of law in our constitution. It's a it's a document I for to protect in so the entering in this case, the chilling fact that this kind of prosecution can have. On individuals exercising that fundamental right to Self-defense can't be you know under state or can't be overstated. It's a it is a it's A. It's a very dangerous road to go down and it needs to be stopped right away. Can I ask you one more question I know your time is tight, but if I may let me ask one more question about. What's happening in Portland I do not want a federal police force I don't like the Department of Homeland Security, coming into our towns and being an extra police force. It's wrong. But. We're sitting in a situation in like Portland where the mayor the governor is not doing anything to a protect federal buildings. which I understand is what's happening right now with DHS's. They're just protecting those buildings. But, but don't. We have a responsibility to the citizens of every town when their constitutional rights to be free are being violated by a mob and a governor and a and a mayor. That won't do anything about it to uphold the constitutional law. How do we walk this line Eric How do we? How do we not become everything? We despise, but also protect everybody's freedom. Well. I think there's a it's a great question I think there's a balance there I'll just give you an example. In Missouri, the governor was very open to you turn your general Bar, offering to help in Kansas City and so federal law enforcement is going to be working with local law enforcement there an operation legend, which was named after Kansas City's youngest victim about a month ago. and we in our office have a partnership with the US Attorney's office, both in Kansas City and St Louis. You know part of the reason is the local prosecutor in Saint Louis isn't interested in prosecuting violent crime, so we're working with the US Attorney's Office to prosecute violent crime in federal court where penalties sometimes remain stiffer, so I think the answer is. There's partnerships in a shared understanding that everything we hold dear in this country this idea, the American experiment right it is I wrote an op Ed on the fourth of July a very unique thing. That's the the idea of American exceptionalism. Stand out from the rest of the world in the history of the world where you had you know rights were given to you by government. You're subjects and this experiment we have of self government is that has dignity, and we have fundamental rights. Government's role is to protect those rights all that stuff's on the table here and so I think that standing up for our constitutional liberties. Making sure people feel safe extracting that balance, there is really important. Important in a big conversation should be having, and it sounds like you know some of these governors and mayors on the left because they don't like the president are unwilling to help you know protect the citizens they represent in Missouri. We're trying to forge a different paths with those partnerships to make sure people feel say. The victim's always need to be front and center here. What gets lost? Sometimes are the kids being murdered the mothers and fathers being lost. And as I've talked to people in the community WANNA feel safe. They WanNa make sure that their kids can go to school and not have to worry about violence, and they have every opportunity this country you can provide people, so it's a really important issue, and it's just sad that some people are politicizing this I win this core fundamental value of public safety. Will thank you for trying to get these charges dismissed against this couple. In Missouri I don't think it's right that they have to go through a years worth of hell in a courtroom for something that is so clear, especially state with Castle doctrine. Eric I appreciate your work. Thank you so much. Let us know how we can help. Okay thank you.

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Is Wokeness Racist? | Guests: Eric Schmitt & John Mueller | 7/22/20

The Glenn Beck Program

2:04:10 hr | 1 year ago

Is Wokeness Racist? | Guests: Eric Schmitt & John Mueller | 7/22/20

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See. Now Islamist. Revolution across the world if we could do. Why can't we have that Revolution America terrifying glennbeck prediction that's happening now on our streets. Tonight. Nine PM Eastern only police TV DOT com slash Glenn. That's weird, isn't it? What did you say? We're the community that stage revolutions across the world? You mean the Arab spring. And then why can we not do that here in America? You know it's really weird. Is it almost sounds a little bit like? My prediction from a few years ago, while on Fox that yeah. Looks like. The the. Up Unrest in the middle. East is going to spread. And eventually come here to America, but there's more than just that. Let me show you the speaker. This guy was. One of the leaders and one of the speakers at a big rally in London just the other day I. Want you to listen to what he said about white men, and what has to happen to white men. Can't talk about lucky shoes and Algebra tissues and exclusive, as if there's some individual issue. You need to be looking at this using intersection. -ality which is. A wild. Is Right around. But what does it really mean? It means recognizing that there was one common enemy the white mountains. And and the systems that they use a capitalism Patriarchy and fascism they were created and perpetuated by white band, four white man in the interests of white men, but we need to address the that you know. Order these groups of people. Issues they face comes from the same people white man, so we need to get rid of. So we. Need to get rid of them. Oh well, that's all we have to do. And by the way this is a white man saying this. He's White Guy Holding the rally and he's calling for the elimination of the white men fantastic. Okay, so now at least they're saying it out loud. Maybe people will hear it doubtful here. What they WANNA hear. You know the the most popular book in Germany. During Fascism was mind comp. He laid it all out. He said we gotta get rid of the disabled. We gotta get rid of the Jews. He said it all, but people said, but he doesn't actually mean that. Yes, he did and so do they. So now, let's look. At another problem. We have. We have Linda Sarsour. Linda Sarsour, who is a radical Marxist Moslem? She has. She has gathered together. Joe Biden and his allies adult progressive Muslim voice event. the the membership based five. Oh, one C.! Four seeks to mobilise American Muslims to advocate for issues that define who American Muslims are by what they stand for That's interesting somebody standing up for what they actually believe. Is that what she's saying? So? What is it that they actually believe now? The group's exuberance for Biden has been lacklustre since he took over a Bernie Sanders spot. As the lead candidate, they actually have wanted Bernie Sanders why because the movement in the Middle? East is collectivist movement? So on Monday, they had a phone call and Linda Sarsour was one of the people was talking. She was a featured speaker She became famous for Co founding the women's March remember that ladies when you all marched and you thought Oh. Yeah, we're just marching with like minded people. For Women's rights now. No, actually you weren't. A radical. Muslim and Marxist group that you were you were running around with. How did that end end for Ya? Not Real well didn't. So she goes on and she starts talking about how. She is so for. Joe Biden. We all have to come together and then she introduces Joe Biden and Joe Biden. Begins to speak to the Muslim group now the Sarsour. She has a special brand of anti-semitism. That really puts Ilan Omar Shame She's a surrogate of Louis Farrakhan. She outspoken on her anti Israeli leanings. She's very aggressive. She's advocated several times. For One St. Palestine with no Israel she is pro boycott divestment sanctions against Israel and has been tied vehemently. Do Antisemitic zealots tied to terrorism? But Joe Biden and his team thought it would be really nice to take a moment and pander to. Friends. You know I mean a little grease. Pad It's not just you know if you have one drop of antisemitic blood. It doesn't make you an anti Semite, right. If you're. Right and if all of your friends are anti-semites, that doesn't make you. Thou anti-semites certainly not and and Joe Biden took the opportunity to talk to these rabbit anti-semites, and and he coined a new word. He said that he was going to stop under this administration. We've seen unconscionable unconscionable rise in Islamic for. So. That's a new word. I haven't I've heard of Islamaphobia but not Islamic of phobia. Now you might say well, that's. Kind of mistake Glenn Listen To you right? Yeah he said Islam Phobia four times. He's quote. Trump has named people with a history of open Islamic phobia. and. He wants the Muslim community to. No, that's not who you are. That's not what you're all about as so you have to decide whether you want to defeat. Fascism in America. Linda Sarsour said the election for me is really not about Joe Biden. It is about destroying fascism. Now you would think. Why would you want to destroy if you are? You know as you know as. somebody who believes in the Middle East kind of rule if you're an Islamicist, why would you try to defeat fascism? Because Fascism isn't based on the Karan, but it's the same principle. Sarsour. Says our community is committed to ending the occupation of the Palestinian people that means the destruction of Israel. Now here's an interesting Second Note. This is from the Washington examiner. It looks like president. Trump is headed for a drubbing from Jewish voters this fall. Jewish voters. Are Strangely for. Joe Biden. I'm trying to figure that out with who he surrounding himself with. He is he is littered with people over his campaign that don't really have an affinity for Israel. In fact, they want to destroy Israel. A one state solution that only includes Palestine means there will be no Jews in Israel. I'm trying to figure out how that works for Joe Biden in the campaign, but Y Not we appear to be a nation of people that are voting for suicide that are rooting for national suicide. Why should Jewish people be any different? Meanwhile to squad members Ilan Omar Minnesota and Rashida to leave of Michigan. Are Up for reelection and they are now fending off primary challengers in a closer than expected race next month. They're contests while complicated by different forces both threatened to break up the group, which also includes a Alexandra Cossio Cortes and. A on Presley of of Do you know anything about her? She's like the Ringo. She's you know she's sitting there playing the drums. She doesn't get any credit for anything. she's almost like she's up in. Massachusetts all almost even like Peter. Best the drummer who left the Beatles the fifth year she's. Him because. Nobody knows. What she does. Yeah, nobody. Yeah, nobody nobody. Nobody knows that here is a group of people that are are now calling for the at the end of Israel. In fact, could I please play Bill Am Speaker Defends Palestine? Here's that same blm speaker that was talking about ending white men. Here he is unpack, Stein. Palestine recently I think it was three days ago every Matt. Wherever it's I find android Google have removed Palestine from the maps. SUICIDE IS STILL A. Guard as much as Israel wants to take over everything as much as America's funding them. Issue on its own. Does that sound like a friend to the Jews. How many times are we going to go through this? And the story is exactly the same now we have spent years. More specifically several weeks covering black lives matter. I've been showing you who funds them? We know who funds them what their goals are. We know that now and why they want to destroy everything that makes America the greatest nation on Earth, but why they also want to destroy Israel. Now, there's this new piece of the puzzle coming in, and it's all starting to happen. I, said on Fox years ago. Communist radicals, anarchists and Islamist would work together. I told you that they would start to caliphate, and then that uprising that happened in the Arab spring would spread from the Middle East to Europe and then finally to America to destroy the Western world. Could you please play Sarah the the quote? From the organizer. Yesterday that where she came out and said you know we. We started this over in the Middle East. Why can't we do this in? America? Could you play that clip for me? Here comes. The long way to the other side of the studio. I tell you what let me take a quick one minute break, and then we'll come back with that clip. 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You need to initiate the daily lesson about the concept of inequitable access to nature racism in the great outdoors. There will be a test this evening. According to a woke party affiliate in Oregon outdoor diversity groups like outdoor Afro has found that it's common for black people to feel excluded uncomfortable, and yes on welcome when they try to enjoy outdoor activities and gloat. Black people and people of color makeup, two point two percent of Oregon's population, but only point nine percent of daily visitors and one point nine percent of overnight visitors to parks. Meanwhile, white account for seventy six percent of Oregon's population, but eighty percent of the systems, Dave visitors and eighty seven percent. The only logical explanation is white supremacy. We must therefore destroy this racist. In nature, three societies are bad. The only promote bigotry tolerating racism is racism. Not Tolerating racism is racism. 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Donald Trump recently has fired two of his employees for the Work Party affiliation. This guy is a war crime and the perpetrators will be castigated ruthlessly. Your, efforts to degrade the police have been working a police officer for the fascist corporate states known formerly as America stationed in Seattle, penned a letter been loaning. The excellent mistreatment woke party operatives are doling out. The officer wrote the anarchists and chequered. Currently controlling our city's future have created environment that will not allow public order and safety to be maintained, and that puts your freedom imperil. Would a mob control city streets those? Agree with the mob. Free Citizen. This is why we must be fund. The police as everyone knows there is safety in the mob. You are totally safe as long as you understand and obey the party. We'd also like to thank. The Work Party activists reported a tweet from a Varsity. High School Baseball. Coach and social studies teacher in Michigan. 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Things in New Yorker out of control as we know mayor applause eeo. Coming up in in just a few minutes. We we have a a special guest on his from yonkers. He's The New York police commissioner and he is saying police officers will not cross over into Manhattan. So. There's there's no help coming from the outside because of de Blasio in what is happening in New York. They're saying they're not going to get caught up in that and. They're not going to risk their lives. To, not be protected in the end by the city. So it's it's quite a situation that is happening. In New, York, and Don Lemon was mocking people that said that the problems of New York being caused by the lack of support for the police. He said that it's just the enormous amount of guns that are on the street that need to be removed. Okay, so remove the guns from citizens and the police Oh that's GONNA BE! That's GONNA. Be Great. By, the way has anybody noticed the the very strange relationship between. The clan and what they preach and Blm and what they preach. It. Has this bizarre world where they seem to be? They seem to be okay with each other right now, or at least they claim not to be okay, but they're saying exactly the same things, do you? Do you know what I saying pat? Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah WHOA KNESS is very close to. Exactly what the Racist Racist! I mean it's exact. There's a comedian on Youtube I. WanNa. Play what he he. He and his friend went out and they played. One was woke and the other one was a racist, and listen to the conversation with me and Bradford's Matt didn't think we'd get along, but turns out. We kind of agree on everything you. Need. The most important thing everything should be looked at through the lens of race. Miyako. Color, even though we barely I say colored people, but as long as classifying them. We both think minorities are United Group. We think the same act the same in both to say you don't WanNa. Lose your blackboard. Sorry I. Don't know I just think we should rollback discrimination law, so we can hire based on race again now. You owe me a coke. White actors should only do voices for white cartoon character for years. Stick to your own white people. We have so much privilege I agree, and it's a privilege to be white, asked him about interracial dating all I say that black men who date white women have internalized racism and white men. The date ethnic women are fetish. Losing those guys against interracial dating now being ranked did rumored what you up to this. Oh? You're not TACO places. white-owned deal making white foods, crap, macaroni and cheese, no seasoning, not even salt like he's a mind reader I've been pushing for segregation forever in my man does what I created an Improv comedy show exclusively for ethnic segregates comedy on my birthday why people need to stop wearing dreadlocks stop appropriating people's music shaved heads and country music to a garden tended. All white people. Racists I'm listening even if you have a black wife or a black friend group, you're still really racist new. He is kicked out of the organization forever and black girlfriend, but if you can promise me, he's still really racist. Look consider letting him back in populous. You don't shop businesses I guess the only thing we disagree about is I think white people are the root of all evil, but what I tell you though if we can narrow that down to a certain tiny white people, I think we can come to an understanding technically I don't consider people neither do I. MEAN! That's incredible, isn't it? Yeah, I mean it's just it's exactly what's going on. They agree with each the two sides now. Do. Yeah, I mean Martin Luther King would be against the black lives movement. The black lives matter movement is is absolutely the opposite of what he taught and. I. Don't know how people aren't seeing that this is this is racist. 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Hello America. Last night on CNN. There was an amazing conversation that nobody heard. It's like a tree falling in the forest so. Did it. Really Happen I. Don't know, but. One of my producers, who I matt at I forced him to watch CNN and report to report to us. What has been said last night? They were about how? Crime is only up because of all of the guns on the street. Crime is not up in New York, because of defunding the police or police disarray or build the Blasi, Oh none of that is true. Things are out of hand because of Donald Trump and because they won't pass stricter gun control. Oh, really so we want to get rid of the police. And take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens Oh. That's GonNa work out really well. Now, one of the guys who unfortunately had the task of saying. To his brothers in blue. Cross the city line. I'm not gonNA come and help you. I can't I can't cross the line into New York City anymore. 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For yonkers, New York and yonkers police are no longer crossing into New York City. To to aid them. Welcome to the program the John Muller. Are you good Morning Glenn? I'm great good morning. So first of all. How are your officers doing through all of this before we get into the rest? How are your guys handling? What's happening in the country and and in Yonkers I assume. The the the Oscars, please. The men and women of the Oscars Police Department have been doing an amazing incredible outstanding job. They're fantastic through all of this you know. We made a lot of deposits in our community bank account, and so a lot of the things you're seeing across the nation Glen. You're not seeing in in the city of Yakkers. Thanks to a mayor who supports his police department and You know we're just. We're getting pretty well. Good I'm glad to hear it now you have decided. With the city that you are no longer going to. Send a yonkers officer across the city line. You're right there on the line of New York City. What does that mean? And why did you do that? Well, what it means is that New York City Council. pass legislation that essentially made an impossible standard to meet for the officers and if they do not meet this impossible standard, they're going to be subjected to criminal liability and I. Just couldn't in good conscience. Allow that to happen. You know This was a hastily crafted irresponsible law. I'm hoping that they would circle back and listen to the experts, and then why PD who by the way have one of the greatest departments one of the most progressive departments, but right now it seems like everyone is operating an echo chamber, and the result of that is is hastily prepared laws that really put people in jeopardy for for for, and they're not listening. To to everybody, it just seems like as People WanNa, talk each other talking each other over and over and again. Well the thing that you know you bring up this they they've set in. A ridiculous standard that no one could ever accomplish on a percent of the time. Can you get specific on that? Was it that they passed it city council. So. They passed an anti chokehold and so just for the record. Let's start with the actual chuckles. I NORTHERN NYPD is has a problem with coach being banned. That's absolutely not I mean I think sometimes people are completing the issues, but in this case the chokehold is not the issue. It's the need of the back or the chest so essentially what they're saying the council the way. Way they wrote the law. It is so restrictive that if you happen to put an inadvertent knee on someone's chest or someone's back, you will be subject to criminal prosecution so when you're a wrestling with someone. If you're knee happens to touch their chest or their back, there's an opportunity there for a prosecutor to to prosecute you under the statue and we just can't have that. And you go to jail. The police officer goes to jail if they do that, right? Yes, and I you know it's just a position that we took in Yorker supported by Mayor Spaniel that we were not going to be a test case for for such irresponsible legislation and my heart goes out to the NYPD I spoke with chief Monahan, the chief of patrol, fantastic guy, progressive, police leader, and expressed. You know how sad I was about this, because this is just an example of of going too far and not talking to everybody. So tell me how you arrest someone because I. You know I saw the shooting in Atlanta and that guy what seemed to be totally cool. And then all of a sudden, he flipped on a dime and just went crazy. And there's no way they could have put him into cuffs which they were trying to do if they wouldn't have pinned him to the ground so John. How is a police officer with somebody WHO's fighting them? How is he supposed to keep them down? Without putting his weight on the main part of their body. Yeah. That's correct when you've nailed it putting their made on their weight on the main part of the body. Let's keep in mind that this is not a George Floyd situation where there was pressure on a next for nine minutes this is association where it could be five seconds to maintain control and what I might like to add. Is that the safest way to take a violently? Resisting suspect into custody is to get him handcuffed as quickly as possible. Possible when you when you're able to knock that time down where there is the struggle point and they're not in handcuffs. That's where the highest likelihood and the most propensity is for a subject of arrest to be injured or a police officer. Be Injured, so this almost is teams to be counterintuitive to what I think they were trying to do, but when they're not listening or they're not willing to exchange different perspectives. This is what you get. So! What is what is? What is this really going to mean to New York? CNN were talking about the all the problems in New York the radical spike. In New York of of problems is caused by Donald Trump and the Republicans for not passing new gun legislation. That is so ridiculous. It is something right out of nineteen. eighty-four in newspeak everyone with any kind of commonsense knows that the cops are afraid to do anything they're being told not to do anything. And that's what's causing the the rise in crime. The bad guys have the upper hand. What does this mean for New York City to be isolated like this and not have other officers run in. It is really a problem for New York City, and sadly, and you use the the two most important words probably right now, that we need to be more heedful of is common sense, and there is no common sense right now when you pass legislation like this, and unfortunately what you what you find, Glenn is the folks that need us most in in communities of color in neighborhoods that that have issues with poverty they. They need the police. They need good police they need. They need good solid policing We understand about police reform. We're for many different aspects of police reform. You know this is a very This is a business that shifts and changed. You have to be situationally agile. You have to be able to move. You know as time goes on, but we enjoyed a historic drop in crime I was in New York City. Police Police officer for a very short time in Nineteen ninety-two, and at that time I believe there was around two thousand one hundred murders now last year. I, think it was around three hundred. That's nothing shorter miraculously now. Could we have done things better? Of course we could but we but what you're seeing now is a reversal of this, and you know the one thing you want his officers to come to work and feel their. Their wanted and needed and appreciated respected and valued because when you do that, they're going to go out and they're going to interact with the community and value and respect and listen to what they have to say, I, it's really a win. Win Situation so what we're trying to do here is just to bring You know a little you listen at the end of the day. I have I'm responsible the city of yonkers. And Police Commissioner there. I I work at the behest of the mayor. And you know this was just something that I'm not going to go down this Roque I see bad things as a result of it, I see rising crime is You know this is just one example of steps that have been taken without talking to the experts, and then y p. and like I said they are the light. They have gone all over the world. People have come from all over the world to learn how the. The only does policing so when they say something like this is a problem and again I. Don't believe I'm not gonNA speak for Commissioner Shea, but it's my understanding. They're fine with the chokehold band. It's the knee on the back the knee compressing the chest. That is the issue and I think when you explain it to. People like you and I are talking right now. I think the overwhelming majority of people are going to say okay. Yeah, I get that, but right now it seems like the most shrill. The loudest minority if you scream the loudest in the minority group a small minority that just wants to yell and scream. You're taking away reasonable common sense. You're taking away people that are willing to listen and go back and forth and exchange ideas to get where we want to get in terms of policing in America. John at me out on something because you've been with the police for. When did you join the force? I started in the news ninety two I transferred yonkers and ninety four, and I've been there ever since he talked about twenty eight years all right. Okay, so, what is it like for a guy who I assume? was on duty or was called onto duty on nine eleven, a guy who witnessed that, and then went through the months of every New Yorker and everybody saying thank you, thank you, thank you, knowing that are first responders. Go through hell that none of us want to go through. And being that guy that guy or that group of people that was probably put too far up on a pedestal, but now twenty years later. Your hated. How what does that swing feel like? Well, I think I think we have to be mindful that I don't know if we're hated I. Think think that the hateful small segment of the population is very right now. Their voices are very amplified, and it seems like they seem to be the darling of certain media outlets, so it seems like we're hated, but the truth is Glen I can tell you this with confidence or communities communities of. Of Color communities all over yonkers, and I imagine the same in New York. City support the police. They want police. They want good policing. They WANNA feel safe because of the police and they wanNA feel secure with the way we police right, and we're constantly working towards that goal way before this and I'll even do you one better. We were really appreciated during our officers did a fantastic job during covert. Where you know New York, city New York in general was the epicenter you know with many many many cases, and probably whereas all started, but at the end of the day people really appreciate it us, and then it all kind of fell apart, but I think the key is Glenn is continue to engage your community to talk with them to exchange ideas and take the time to have discussions real conversations. Not when someone's screaming at you trying. Trying to coerce you to do something because that's not what professionals do professional stand up and professionals assess situations, and they take the time to talk to people, and then you, you arrive at decisions. That's what they're paying us for Unfortunately, it appears that you know Sadly New York City. Council has no interest in talking to Commissioner Shea or the leadership of the NYPD which is second to none in policing in the entire. John I've I've got a cut our conversation short. Unfortunately, but I I WANNA ask you one more question Sure this goes to just your general. Your general feeling with what's going on, let's say right now in Portland the governor and the mayor. They're screaming that the the FEDS are there and they're kidnapping people in the street at Cetera et, Cetera and they want nothing to do with that. Is the president. Do you believe? Is He right and I? Don't WanNA. Make this about the president, so if you were president, would you be doing similar things? Are we reacting or are we overreacting or under reacting on these cities where they don't seem to enforce the law at all? It's a great question, because in a democracy, these these are the steps that you know Western. Civilization has to take to get where they need to be like there was a there was a a transformation when like I, said the twenty three hundred murders in New York City people got to the point where they said enough is enough and we need. You know really good clean. crime strategies to get us where people feel safe and secure. It's the same thing in Portland e- E, you're your. There's going to a consequence for lawlessness. There is, and you hope that people will take a look at it and say. I don't think this is exactly the good way to go that. You know we have elected leadership saying well, you know we. We have to let people vent, but venting is one thing. It's Ok to say how you feel. It's okay to be frustrated angry. It's not okay to damage property. It's not okay to try to hurt police officers and I think what you're seeing. There is really a responsible among elected leadership, and you hope that eventually people will take notice of it and say this just isn't the. The way. We can do things I mean. It's fifty five days now, and it's it's. It's thirty million dollars worth of property damage. Like at what point does anyone say this is absolutely? This is a disaster. We have to try to figure out a way to to secure and reclaim the streets and not allow people to get hurt and not allow lawlessness. That's I mean that's the answer, so you'll, it's solely. It's the same thing with the decisions made here. It lays at the feet of the elected officials. Someday you hope there are consequences? People say I don't WanNa live through this again. This is not the way to achieve change especially for fifty five eighths. John Miller he is The, New, York City or New York. Police Commissioner from yonkers New York and We really appreciate your time and tell your officers. Millions of Americans do have their back. 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Beck program ran for the love of Pete come on. So, what do you think about the D. H.? S. I mean I'm really torn because I don't like DHS coming in and being the police officer it. CETERA ET CETERA, but they're not. They apparently going in and just protecting federal buildings. Yeah, yeah, so. They have every right to do that and the should be doing that because the local jurisdiction isn't doing that, so are you just supposed to let them go in and burn down federal buildings I? Don't think so, so if the if they're not going to do their job locally and the state's not GonNa do anything. What are you supposed to do? You can't let them destroy the city and the federal buildings in it. You can't well you don't WanNa have a federal police force. That's the prime I. Don't want to have a federal police force. That's really bad, but as the president of the United States, and you know that you have citizens whether they voted for you or not. You have citizens that are being hurt businesses that are being hurt. People are not free when there's a mob on the street. And nobody locally will do anything about it. You you have A. To protect and defend those people. I think so, who are having their constitutional rights trampled on, Yep. Do you not yeah I think so, and it's a? It's a really dangerous place to be, but it is here. We are gang. Is the Glenn Beck Program. Gourmet! Meals are usually cooked with a gourmet kitchen gourmet a set of equipment when it comes to grilling, the kitchen is God's kitchen. You stand outside their under the blue. Dome that Summer Day taking it all in with a smile on your face unless you're in Texas where it's a thousand degrees. So the last thing you WanNa do is stand out and stand over the hot. The hot grill well. Let me tell you. Something not only is wreck gourmet grill the gourmet kitchen for you outside. You don't have to stand it. You don't ever have to check it. 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They have to watch it because they need to understand much more than what they're getting just in the regular media tonight. We've been telling you cover for several weeks. That black lives matter. Is a radical organization. We've been showing you who funds them what their goals are why they want to destroy everything that makes America Great. How they are trying to absolutely dismantle this piece by piece, and we are at war with them. There's a new piece of the puzzle tonight that we're going to add I. said for years on Fox that communist radicals, anarchists and Islam. I would work together. They, would I create a caliphate, and it would spread. The disruptions the Arab spring would spread, and eventually make it to our shores and. And they would all say now. Go go go well. It's happening right now. Member when they mocked you, the merciless third third never worked together. They don't have the same goals. They don't have the motivation state. Don't have anything in cabin really. Where we are. Look where we look where we are. We're there. Can you believe I mean pat? You helped research and write those shows and Can you believe how much of that is now done? Now? It's unbelievable I'll done. It's all it's all happening. And there was a resurgence last week of the left. Trying to mock I, said one time I think last week or the week before I said look at the Islamists are starting to gather together with the Communist and. I I played the audio of Blm people at a I think it was a care rally and the care people at a at ABM rally and of course, all of that was left out of the articles that were published or how the actual facts, but they were calling me crazy again for saying and I thought. Wow, we are really hitting them where it hurts right now. Because it's. It's really clear tonight. I'M GONNA. Show you the Muslim. Brotherhood is here and they are calling for a little revolution, just like the one that transformed the Arab world nearly a decade ago. Fact we have that audio Sarah. Can you still play that audio for me? Okay, you don't have well. We'll play it to where she talks about phenomenal what they've done across the rest of the world. Why can't they do it here? Yen? That's when you're talking. We've had are amazed. Had are revolutions all across the Middle East? Yeah, why can't we have a revolution here in America? It's amazing. It's amazing. Our elected leaders who swore to protect the constitution and the nation. They they are part of it. They are sitting there silently, and some of them are literally part of it tonight. We'll show you all of that. There's something else that's going on that you need to be aware of yesterday. The Chinese consulate in Houston. The police were called. Because apparently they were in the middle of their their consulate in the courtyard, and they were burning all of the records of the consulate. Which? Is almost like a Nazi movie, isn't it? I mean that's usually. When happens real right before you know. An enemy of war comes in to your consulate. Thinks. You're getting a little spooky I. think honestly with China The United States has abruptly ordered China to cease all operations and events at its consulate in Houston the Chinese Foreign Ministry is really upset. They say this is unprecedented escalation. In recent actions taken by Washington. The State Department said there they directed it to close in order to protect American intellectual property and Americans private information, but they didn't. They didn't say what prompted. It wasn't a just a couple of days ago that they announced that they had caught China trying to hack in and take all of the research. For The the new. virus inoculation. We're working on. The State Department said in a separate statement. China has engaged in years in massive illegal filing, spying and influence operation, and those activities have increased markedly. A statement posted on the official social media. The Chinese Foreign Minister said the order to close. The consulate was political provocation. unilaterally launched by the US which seriously violates international law basic norms governing international relations. And bilateral consular agreements between the China of the Chinese and Americans. the statement goes on to say. The US has been shifting the blame to China. For. The the China virus They said they have tried to stigmatize and have have performed unwarranted attacks against Chinese social system, harassing Chinese diplomatic and and staff in the US intimidating and interrogating Chinese students and confiscating their personal electronic devices, even detailing detaining them without cause I. Mean China is talking to us about gene people amazing, amazing, also China's spies on on the US or corporations. With, I mean with absolute abandoned with absolute abandoned, so we're trying to stop a little bit of that. Wouldn't that be of refreshing change of pace? Let me, tell you. The the city of Washington DC has partnered with China now. China is in all of our universities right now. All and it is a subversive campaign the university system. This is the first thing I've seen the university system. Do that I was like really there. Okay? With shutting down its massive corruption, and in influence campaign throughout all of our universities and a lot of them have stopped this because quite honestly, a lot of the professors are being arrested. For taking money from the Chinese and smuggling information out of those universities and getting him to China. But some of our cities are actually involved. In Washington DC is one of them. She is taken money and is is taking all of this propaganda and putting it into the school districts. Of? Of Washington DC. There's another story that came out yesterday about China. They have ordered. Christians to take down all religious symbols, including crosses, crucifixes and images of Jesus Christ. Man Them to replace them with pictures of Communist leaders. where it's up four. I was just GonNa say I remember that Oh. That's right. I remember. It was Adolf Hitler. Did exactly the same thing. All impoverished households in the town were told to display now images Maoz image. The government is trying to eliminate the Christian belief and wants to become God instead of Jesus officials said that those were receiving financial assistance from the government would have to take down the religious symbols and replace them with portraits of Chairman Mao and President Jesus Ping. If they refuse to do, so they would refer. They would face the loss of their welfare benefits. One villager recounted that officials tore down the Christian images in his home and replace them with a portrait of Mao so if if your church is not enough, they are going into the houses of anyone who is any kind of help from the government and taking down all of their religious all of their religious. ICON I can. I cons listlessly. Don't work again next week next week. Being voted for the Radio Hall of fame and every day every day I think. How do I have this job anyway? Also churches across the country are being attacked here in America, and no one is saying anything about it there is there is an attack that is coming, and my guess is. It is going to come on the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints I think they're gonNA, go after the easiest to pick off and they're going to separate us, and they are going to take us down church by Church. I think the the Catholics. Maybe you know on that list as well. The Baptists are certainly going to be on the list. but they are going to come for our churches. Most people don't know this. But we've had situations right now in America in the last few weeks. That resemble what Isis does to churches in the Middle East. They go into cut the heads off of the statues. And they desecrate them, and then they tried to burn them to the ground. In in Europe just in France in the last twelve months there's been I think it's fifty fires. Fifty churches have mysteriously burned down these grand cathedrals, just burning to the ground in France. Nobody's been injured because nobody goes to church in France. But they're sending their sending the same signal that they did during the French Revolution. Here in America that has not happened, but no-one is reporting on the destruction and the arson. Opening in American churches. I Warn Your Church, please Warren Your Pastor priest or rabbi? That these people are not fooling around. And when you come after the Western culture, you must come after God. You must come after the Judeo. Christian principles which come from I don't know Jews and Christians and what we believe. Those will come under attack and that is. Because I believe, we are battling evil, and not flesh and blood, that is the main target and. Persecution! 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Is the Glenn Beck Program. Welcome to the at Glenn. Beck Program I want to tell you what happened at the Grace Baptist Church. It was amazing. Protesters went in during services and screamed at a woman, holding a child and two others, until at least one man was pulled aside and punched repeatedly He was chanting in the church. This is no house of God. This is no house of God It is it's in Troy New York. The COVINGTON Catholic high school students and their confrontation that just just happened. These are the things that are going on all over our country and people don't understand and I'm telling you. Please alert your church, and if your church remains dead at this a sleep, it's going to become a problem and I don't mean is going to become a problem that you know you're GonNa be persecuted and you're not. GonNa, no, no, they will become part of the. Prosecuting and persecuting team. There's going to be a clear clear divide, and you're going to be accused of all kinds of things that have happened in the past all kinds of things they're going to be said about you. If you serve. The, one God. Of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, you are going to come under attack. And you know the truth, your heart is changed if you are truly a Christian your heart is changed. and. There's no place in your heart for racism. There's no place in your heart. Four? For Hatred. And you're going to want to hate, but you have to stay away from all of that We have to be the most Christ like and any church that gets involved with black lives matter. And, they say that it's fine I'm sorry, but I have a real problem with that because they don't believe in salvation for white people. They don't believe that. They believe in collective sin. Christ did not come for collective sin. He came for the individual to claim you as an individual as his. The Glenn Beck Program. 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You should never been brought in the first place I glen. I mean this amounts to. Pure and simple political prosecution, which in the United States of America is very dangerous. Idea that you got local prosecuting bring the full force, the government against biting citizens who were protecting their home and their lives. and they're facing four years in prison. I mean if in fact that sink in it I think it has, it could have a chilling effect on people exercising their fundamental right of self-defense, but do you know is deeply rooted deeply rooted in this country predates our Constitution the idea that you can send yourself Inner Second Amendment in Missouri. It's in our Constitution is recently twenty fourteen. It was even expanded to make sure that any any infringement would would. Be met with certains, strict scrutiny by the courts but Missouri also has the most expansive Catholic doctrine in the country, and what do I mean by that I mean that you have a right of your threaten, not just your life or your family members lives, and not just your castle or your home, but your property, and that's exactly what can play here so at a time where you've got you know calls to fund the Police spiking violent crime rates including in Saint Louis. It reached over one hundred and thirty five murders already this year. You've got a prosecutor. Targeting targeting. Individuals targeting this law abiding citizens exercising this fundamental right, so it's incumbent upon the Trade Journal. I felt somebody needs to do something about this, so we're stepping into the case and we're seeking dismissal, because it's my belief that the entire state has an interest in being involved in this case because of the chilling of technology. If you you know high profile prosecution like this Glenn where people feel like if they defend their property of their own lives that they might be sent to prison and sells is completely outrageous. I will tell you that I mean. We are in so much trouble and I thank you for the work that you are doing with several other attorney generals. Across the nation to point out how much trouble we are in you know this prosecutor is taking money from George Soros It seems to me that the Attorney General's and the prosecutors locally that have taken money from George. Soros oh the ones that are all letting prisoners go and charging all the wrong people, but if if you allow this to stand God, help us in the future is someone can come in and take your stuff or burn your house to the ground and receive no punishment at all, but if you try to stop somebody from doing it, Hugo go to jail. It's a world of the insane. Completely upside down Glen, and and I view my job as you attorney general, the Great State of Missouri the last line of Defense I mean again. These charges should not have been brought, but this is a political prosecution by a local prosecutor has an abysmal record of actually prosecuting violent crime, and she's the cove in nineteen pandemic to release dozens and dozens of inmates charged with violent crimes out onto the streets, including people. who were you know had? Guns out on restaurant workers attack cab drivers. These people were let loose you know, and you got again the backdrop here of funding the police so that you actually did call somebody to come and help wouldn't be the money there to support that effort in in our founders knew that in those instances right the right to defend yourself is paramount. It's a natural. Natural right were all born with and government is our shared project to protect our rights not to take them away, and that's what this prosecutor is doing, and so you know it's time that we stand up to this kind of nonsense. It's I mean. This is a political statement I mean. This is a criminal prosecution which is dangerous. This is this is. This is one of the most dangerous things I have seen possibly in my lifetime in America because this is not. Just one prosecutor You had the the Massachusetts Attorney General. Mara Healy come out and said yes. America is burning, but that's how a forest grows. We are looking at people who are in charge of our laws and law enforcement, and and they are rooting for the burning down of this nation. We are not just having some little disagreements. IT IS A. Excuse the expression, black and white reversal of all that we hold dear. That is happening with some of these prosecutors attorney general's. Can you speak to that at all? Yeah well. This is a fight for the rule of law. What kind of country do we want to have right? Do we want to have a country where people can speak their minds freely in the town square right the people can exercise fundamental rights the idea that you know. Debate is being shut down now by canceled culture. That's completely out of control I mean. All these things are on the table, but the most basic thing public. Public Safety is at stake. Your you have people who want to dismantle into fund a law enforcement you know those law. Enforcement officers are standing on the thin Blue Line between chaos and order and You know they're under assault by by a lot of local prosecutors and activists, and and it's wrong and so anyway. We need to stand up to them. And I believe we can do it but you know in moments like this. When these charges are filed, that's the the crucible right and you gotta decide. You'RE GONNA. Stand up to the rule of law. You'RE GONNA stand up for the second amendment. Stand up these important things that we believe in as Americans, and that's what I'm doing right now and we're not backing down. Well I. Thank God that you're in that role in Missouri because Missouri is. I mean look we. We all are in the same. We're all in the same boat. There are some places that are worse. You know York. Los Angeles. Portland crime is out of control and is is just as frightening as what's happening in Missouri with this case is the idea that they are now blaming the crime and the murder rate going up, not on any of the disruption, not on defending the police, not on no-one being arrested in our prisons, being opened up there blaming it on guns. And so they'll take more guns away from law abiding citizens who are scared out of their mind, because they don't know if they can call the police and the police show up. Yeah Look you've got Violent crime is spiking as I mentioned in Saint Louis. Kansas City in Missouri always been a bit of a microcosm for the country right? We've got two major metro areas, Saint Louis and Kansas City You Know Perkins. Sort of a demographic layout that that reflects the country, and so Missouri has always been kind of a reflection of what's going on. And what we're seeing is rising violent crime rates. You're seeing that across the country. In the face of that the answer by by those on the left is to define police departments, and the other thing is criminals have been emboldened if they don't believe that they're going, be held accountable or prosecuted for you, know carjackings and murders You know we're going to get what we've got, so we've got A. WE'VE got to stand up to that, and it's local prosecutor in Saint Louis He's. He's brought these charges with all of those things happening in Saint Louis a carjacking day. There's last year loan in the city of Saint Louis or three, hundred sixty plus carjackings. You know they've got one hundred and thirty five murders, and she's spending more time. instead of taking care of those issues by targeting law abiding citizens who are exercising their fundamental right to Self-defense. It's an upside down world is. Why she in them. He's she in the mainstream of? The people of Missouri, I mean do do. Is this what people are crying out for? No, I don't. I hope not I? Don't believe that to be the case so that people have reached out to our officers really appreciative that we stood up here and You know are entering this fight because my job is ag is to represent six million missourians in the rule of law in our constitution. It's a it's a document eyesore to protect in so the entering in this case the chilling of the fact that this kind of prosecution can have. On individuals exercising that fundamental right to Self-defense can't be you know under state or can't be overstated. It is a it's A. It's a very dangerous road to go down and it needs to be stopped right away. Can I ask you one more question I know your time is tight, but if I may let me ask one more question about. What's happening in Portland I, do not want to federal police force I don't like the Department of Homeland Security coming into our towns and be an extra police force. It's wrong. But. We're sitting in a situation in like Portland where? The mayor! The governor is not doing anything to a protect federal buildings, which I understand is what's happening right now with d h s just protecting those buildings. But. Don't, we have a responsibility to the citizens of every town when their constitutional rights to be free are being violated by a mob and a governor and A and A. Mayor that won't do anything about it to uphold the constitutional law. How do we walk this line? Eric? How do we? How do we not become everything we despise? Also protect everybody's freedom. Well! I think there's it's a great question. I think there's a balance there. Just give you an example. In Missouri, together was very open to Attorney General Bar, offering the helping Kansas City, and so federal law enforcement is going to be working with local law enforcement. They're an operation legend named after Kansas City's youngest victim about a month ago. and we in our office have a partnership with the US Attorney's office both in Kansas City and Saint Louis pro. Part of the reason is the local prosecutor in Saint. Louis isn't interested in prosecuting violent crime, so we're working with the US Attorney's Office to prosecute violent crime in federal court where penalties sometimes even stiffer, so I think the answer is, there's partnerships in a shared understanding that everything we hold dear in this country this idea the American experiment, right? It is I wrote an OP. Ed on the Fourth of July. A very unique thing, that's the the idea of American exceptionalism. We stand out from the rest of the world and the history of the world. Where you had you know rights were given to you by government. You're subjects. In this experiment. We have of self government. Government is that everybody has dignity and we have fundamental rights. Government's role is to protect those rights all that stuff on the table here and so I think that standing up for constitutional liberties. Making sure people feel safe striking that balance there is really important in a big conversation should be having. It sounds like you know some of these governors and mayors on the left because they don't like the president are unwilling to help protect the citizens. They represent in Missouri. We're trying to forge a different path with those partnerships to make sure people feel say. The victim's always need to be front and center here. Law sometimes are the kids being murdered the mothers and fathers being lost. In his? I've talked to people in the community WANNA feel safe. They WanNa make sure that their kids can go to school and not have to worry about violence, and they have every opportunity to this country. You know can provide people, so it's a really important issue in. It's just sad that some people politicizing this I win. This is a core fundamental values of public safety. Will. Thank you for trying to get these charges dismissed against this couple. In Missouri I don't think it's right that they have to go through a years worth of of hell in a courtroom for something that is so clear, especially a state with castle doctrine. Eric I appreciate your work. Thank you so much. Let us know how we can help. Take care. You Bet the Attorney General for the State of Missouri. American financing nmls one eight, two three three four www dot nmlsconsumeraccess.org? Tried to sail across the ocean in a bathtub. 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All John Casick had to do was drop out. There towards the end all of that word would not have gone to Donald Trump. It would have gone to somebody else, and you may not have had donald trump so if that was his main thing was. We don't want Donald Trump. You're responsible for it. Dude, you are truly may be the one man besides Donald Trump. That is responsible for Donald Trump winning, and now now you're going to go, and you're going to speak for the Democrats to try to defeat him. When? You got him elected Europe Moron. John Casick is a moron. I wonder if they can get Tom. Arnold to speak. I hope so because he d. Terrific TA. Aby. Arnold maybe Tom Arnold could be John Casick, running mate in two, thousand, twenty four when he runs again as a Democrat. Wouldn't that be great? That'd be nice well. He's not. He's not really good Tom Arnold relationships. Another divorce and Oh, has he really and yeah was seventeen hadn't figured out this. He hasn't figured out the secret of of love yet. and. You would think. People be getting along with him because he seems so. relatable easygoing seems like a guy you can relate to. The charisma just oozes out of him. How is this happening in his relationships hard to figure I know I know and his wife has had to call the police on him and all. Yeah Yeah. Sad Yeah said. By the way I do WanNa talk to you sincerely about another celebrity and this one is Kanye West uh-huh. Yeah, what's happening there? because. He's being made to look like he's insane and should be institutionalized and I mean literally. That's what they're saying. and he might be What the heck is happening there? Is the Glenn Beck Program. Haven lives in Texas she takes relief factor for pain. She has shoulder and back pain. I should say she had lower back. Pain shoulder pain. When her husband started having severe pain in his upper back in his hip, she convinced him to try it. Is She already lost his pain? 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This is the Glenn Beck Program so Kanye West seems to be having some sort of a meltdown He has claimed on twitter that he's trying to divorce his wife Kim Kardashian. And accused his mother Kris Jenner of engaging in white supremacy. Boy, Kim's mom not his mom. Obviously, he's been trying to get divorced since. Kim met with some rapper. Meek. At the Waldorf for prison reform. That's what he wrote on twitter yesterday. Out How. I don't know what's going on, but then he referred to. His mother-in-law as Chris John. Kind of funny Oh my. Buddy yeah, is this. Is this actual real stuff or is he? Is He just voting his I? Know I think this is. He said they tried to fly in with two doctors and fifty one fifty me. This this all on twitter yesterday. and that apparently is a California law where they can. Say you're a danger to yourself and then institutionalized that person. Chris Kim put out a statement without my approval. That's not what we should do. That's wife's. That's white supremacy. They were trying to lock me up. A live for my children Chris I'm in cody. If you're not planning another one of your children's playboy shoots Whoa ow. ooh! So. Is it possible that he is I? Mean it's possible that he is crazy and then having a bipolar episode. Because, that's who he is. But it's also it's also. Possible that I mean he's being destroyed. I can't imagine. I mean I. Don't know them at all so I. Don't know I just find it interesting because of the journey that he's been on right I didn't think that it was necessarily a real spiritual journey that he was on. It seems to be one. And it seems to be you know. He has spoken out about how his wife is. hurts his soul. He said looking at the way she dresses, and everything else hurts her. Soul hurts his soul. and. Is that possible that that's what's driving all of this? And she thinks he's just a crazy Christian. I don't know possibly, and is it possible that the fifty one fifty is not an involuntary order to go to to an insane asylum, but a reference to he. He just wants her to listen to a van halen album from nineteen eighty six. It could be is everything in Cody. Cody Wyoming. He's probably heard some van Halen. Going around the streets of Cody Wyoming. Weird Cody Wyoming Yeah. You wouldn't. Ever Place Konya West in Cody Wyoming to live there. He Lives I. Don't know if does Kim Kardashian Join him there or does she stay in La? The whole title no. I don't know I don't know, but. Cody is this code is cool. Little town. I have family that lives in cody and it's this really cool town, but it is way out in the middle of nowhere and small. It's yeah, it's it's not Jackson Hole Wyoming that that I could see you know. Building a ranch up there. Cody is. It's A. It's a very different place. It's a great place, but very different. Another celebrity Greta Thurn. Berg says the UA the EU recovery plan fails to tackle the climate crisis. and she doesn't care about you. Know this covid thing. She cares about the the climate crisis. She said this is doing nothing to tackle the issue of a crisis They're denying the fact and ignoring the fact that we are facing climate emergency, so I feel bad for her. Yeah, I really do feel bad for her. Because because of the indoctrination that has obviously unions I think your parents. Yes, our parents are. Oh my gosh. Somebody has influenced her and really it is and turned her to. Turn to her into this. This frightened frightened girl terrified of everything. We should stay you, which is exactly why she needs to talk to. Michael shellenberger about whether or not. This is a crisis whether or not this is a catastrophe, because this is exactly why he took on this book that he wrote, which is apocalypse never? Have you read that yet? It is it's. It's a tremendous book and it shows I. Mean he talks about his life and what he's done in his life, and he's been a crusader for environmental causes. Since he was sixteen years old guy live, he was the Time magazine poster child for the Environment. He was the Environment Savior from Time magazine in two thousand eight, and he still is, he's a reasonable. Environmentalist he's. He's the kind of environmentalists. My grandfather was you know people who actually are farmers who are actually people that live by the forests and hunters, et Cetera et Cetera they are. They're nature lovers, and they know how to care for it because they work in the soil and he's he's more of that Kinda Guy. He's actually engaged with the Earth as opposed to hugging a tree, and then going to conferences all around the world to listen to egg heads, he's engaged with the earth and its residents. He really cares about poor people. That's why he's lived in Brazil and Mono on the Allah and Africa, and over the world, combating poverty and environmental injustice and all that kind of the guy is a super extreme. Liberal and he is telling people stop the hysterical. Eric that you're using. You're scaring the crap out of our kids. You're making them believe that they have absolutely no future whatsoever, and it's harmful. Stop it and saying look, even if even if the temperature does rise, and it is rising, he believes that full heartedly, but he said even if it goes up with the IPC, says it's going to go up. that's actually going to grow more food over the next seventy five years by the IPCC's own admission. About all kinds of these. Hysterics that people are going through, and he goes to the actual people who are supposedly responsible for them, and in virtually every case. They say no. That's not what I said. That's not what I'm saying. I've never said that. The the catastrophic. Rhetoric just has to stop, and that's why you know you got. What seventeen year old girl in Growth Berg who is really taking this to heart internalized it. You could tell when she speaks about it. She's scared to death. She scared witless schedule. You know it's amazing to is. Our children will say Greta turn. Bergh You know as a hero. My children won't, but a lot of people's children will say that's-that's a hero. That's that's somebody who's really standing up and Yada Yada Yada. I read that story about Greta. Saying how dare you use is not enough again today. And I followed it with this story and Afghan. Teen who has been hailed in her country as a hero after she used to well, let me tell you the story. There was a knock on the door about one o'clock in the morning. Insurgents came to the doorstep. Her mother went to see who was who is knocking. When? She saw that they were armed. She refused to open the door and the attackers shot her mom. They barged into the home and they shot her father. The insurgents were targeting the dad, the village chief and the government supporter. The local police had. and. We're targeting these guys because he wouldn't give up the town. She was inside the House. And she took an AK47. And she shot two of the Taliban fighters to death. The ones that killed her parents, and then she went on and injured a few others. Now. She's being hailed in Afghanistan and quite honestly in my world. As a hero. That's a teenager who lives in the real world who lives in a place where you have, you could die at any time. That's what a hero is. Somebody who watches her family being shot to death, and does something to protect herself and other members of her family. and. We would look at her. In the West I think are many of our kids. Especially College kids would look at her as a monster. And hold up Greta Thurn Berg. Who is? A sad and pathetic. Pathetic example of what! Of what our youth is in many cases, not all, but in many cases how? I know I. Know What End What progressive today to these poor kids. She's a great exit. It's not their fault right if if I grew up in American I was taught everything that I was taught. that. These kids are being taught I'd probably be on the same road and I. Think this country was evil. They have no idea they've been lied to. As Greta has been lied to. Our sponsor, this half hour is goldline. Our generation has never had to think about things like bartering for a tank of gas or a plate of food, but I said to pat earlier this morning off the air. I once. You're not going to recognize your country. There's GonNa. Come a point where you're not gonNA recognize your country. Let me! Say This I don't recognize the country today. Let me say this next year. You're not going to recognize this country the one we're living in today. I think things are going to change that dramatically that fast. So, what do you do? 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Lawfare Archive: Al-Shabaab Under the AUMF

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Lawfare Archive: Al-Shabaab Under the AUMF

"This is the law fair archives. Low this is law fair intern. Jas with the podcast. From the law fair archives for july fourth twenty twenty one earlier this week twenty one. Men convicted of being members of the islamist group al-shabaab were executed and somalia while executions were carried out at least twenty. Soldiers may have been killed when al-shabaab militants raided the town. The events of the past week in somalia are just the latest development in the fight against al-shabaab and represent an opportunity to revisit the role of the us and combating the terrorist group based in east africa and yemen. for today's episode from the archives. I went back to december third twenty sixteen when for editor in chief. Ben witness sat down journalist. Charlie savage to discuss the significance of the interpretation of the two thousand one authorization of use of military force being expanded. Broadly covered the use of force. Against al-shabaab l'affaire listeners. Will be able to better understand how the us has come to consider al-shabaab as a threat in its own right and its role in the us war on early this week. The new york times published a story. By charlie savage eric schmidt and mark mazzetti informing us of the obama administration had once again expanded the scope of the two thousand one authorization for the use of military force whereas the administration had previously considered the ao to cover military action against the somali terrorist group al-shabaab only insofar as that action targeted members of shebab individually affiliated with al qaeda. The time story indicated that the ao meth is now being read to apply to al-shabaab more broadly. We brought on. Charlie savage and bobby chesney to talk with benjamin witness but this decision means where it came from and what it can tell us about counter-terror operations at the end of the obama administration and the beginning of the trump administration. It's the l'affaire podcast episode. One hundred ninety nine al-shabaab under the umf all right. So let's start with charlie if you could just give us an overview of this amazing story you guys this week. That has been a little bit overshadowed by a tweets of the president elect but is of abiding interest to law fares readership. Absolutely so i co wrote the story with my colleagues mark. Mazzetti and eric schmidt mark and eric had been part of a tree a different trio that wrote a story in early october about escalating military activity in somalia over the past year and that story was mainly descriptive from an operational standpoint. More bombs are falling more you know. Counterterrorism missions are happening. Things are heating up in somalia and as part of talking to them when they were working on that story and then took about a month. Follow up and suss this out. I got very interested in what the legal authority was at. Least what the administration's theory of its legal authority was in started pulling strings and they asked questions as well and eventually what we figured out. Was that the executive branch has at long last decided to do something that it had been arguing with itself about whether could or should be done since its first term and that was to declare al-shabaab as a whole the islamist milton group in somalia. A part of or an associated force of al qaeda for the purpose of the two thousand and one authorization for use of military force against the perpetrators of the nine eleven attacks. that is. it's now part of the al qaeda war and that means they think that they have Domestic authority to fight al shabaab in somalia without raising a war powers resolution problem and perhaps more importantly that president trump will have a without needing to do anything. Controversial will inherit a sort of freer hand in terms of legal authority in somalia. If he wants to escalate operation there and portly the administration is not the obama administration that is not declaring at this point and presumably before it leaves office will not that. Somalia is an area of active hostilities. That is to say that the thousand thirteen drone strike limits that are intended to protect civilians will be rescinded there and it will be free fire on any al-shabaab foot soldier at will as if it were a sort of traditional battlefield zone But for the purpose of the ever elastic always stretched a you a math. It has been stretched again now to encompass the shebab so a couple of clarifying questions The first is this essentially treats For the first time al-shabaab in general the way we have treated a qa p. and isis For the past several years that is as organizationally either simply part of al qaeda's original matter or associated forces And the question is. Is it clear to you whether al-shabaab here is being treated as an associated force of al qaeda of an associated force of a qa p. or an associated force of isis. I do not know the answer to that question. And did the supposedly the war powers resolution semiannual letter to congress in december. That lists american deployments around the world and is also a public document will clarify we. I assume that it's going to be an associated force and not part of qaeda. What exactly the theory is in particular what it'll be sort of important to know the extent they tell us what. The facts are That support this. It's it's easy to see why it's what their motivation would be from a legal perspective to rude this in congressionally authorized authority But they that was a step. They hadn't taken for many years despite some internal pressure to do so and so one of the things that we couldn't get people to talk about either through the front door. The back door was what has changed. What is it that the intelligence shows about presumably contacts with Other terrorist group leaders and so forth internal communications and intent. That shows that this is something. That is factually justified. Even when it was a step they weren't willing to take a few years ago when the assessment seemed to be that al shabaab was a sort of loosely organized competing set of rival factions. Only some of which cared it. All about al qaeda and it's sort of global jihad aspirations while other parts of it were purely focused on parochial issues like controlling mogadishu. So bobby walk us through. What the prior elaborate a little bit on that prior understanding of shebab. As i understand it i think if i recall I forget whether it was one of jay johnson speeches or maybe attorney general holder's speech sometime back where they basically said that they have not taken the position at that time that shabaab was an associated force but they have looked on an individual basis as to whether individual commanders were sufficiently entwined with the al qaeda hierarchy to be part of in a meaningful sense. Al-qaeda is that the sum total of the prior position or is there. Some more elaborated position with respect to shebab institutionally. Well that's the sum total of the publicly stated prior position for sure. But i think it's important to emphasize that there are two major moving parts to our use of force in the somali east africa area. So i is what you said. And it's the stuff that does get talked about in the past publicly that is The connection to the a. Umf is based on individual ties of particular targets to core al qaeda. And there's there's some sense to that for after all You also have al qaeda's east african cell or franchise. Have you want to think about it Operating in the same region with a lot of the personnel. Who years back. We you would primarily categorize if you had to categorize them organizationally as al qaeda agents or operatives in the region. These are some of the very people who then Get involved with the indigenous al-shabaab collection of of organizations in ended up in to some extent an influential leadership role. So when you have people that fit that bill in the past when they've been targeted the government's been very clear that this is based on their specific individual ties to to the al qaeda network and consciously going out of their way to say that. We're not asserting that al-shabaab as an organization has crossed that line into being an associated force engaged in hostilities in the relevant way. Now the thing is that doesn't describe all the basis on which we've been using force in that area against them. You have an entirely separate path. At least i think it's entirely separate that amounts to a self defense argument in. There's a lot of complexities here. Let me try to sketch an overview you have circumstances in which airstrikes possibly other forms of force but certainly airstrikes have been used in the justification given has been in whole or in part that the individuals targeted or the group targeted Posed an imminent threat in. Let's pause there. Note that in this context imminent does not mean a laypersons understanding of imminent. It means something more akin to constant or looming or continuing threat with an uncertain time. Line an imminent threat of carried out an attack. Either that's critical either on. Us forces or presumably african union forces. That were supporting in that area. In the the best example of this is that the Substantial attack carried out not that long ago on the rosso camp where a large number of gist graduated Shebab fighters were targeted in one fell swoop Because it was a fleeting window of opportunity combined with we are told intelligence suggesting that once they dispersed. Eventually they'd be carrying out attacks either on your sources or the african union forces. That whole theory is is not hinged on the ao math that's about force protection and acting pre-emptively takeout threats Both to our own personnel in the region and into others. So let's unpack some of this when you say as so charlie. Do you have a sense of Why this changed now. I mean what was As you understand it inadequate about the prior understanding In which you know as bobby lays out there is a umf coverage of a certain set of people and subgroups and then there's a article to self defense coverage of imminent attack on on on either us forces or imminent threat to us forces or allied african union forces for some reason now for the first time that becomes inadequate to support the operations that we're Wanna do and i guess. I'm curious whether you have any sense of of what changed over the past few months that necessitated that change in in legal interpretation. I do let me in trying to explain this coherently. Let me sort of start a couple steps before the first last couple of months. So number one this dispute about what the what al-shabaab status is under the m. f. in whether we are at war effectively only with a handful of guys who are dual headed in somalia with with core al qaeda or we are at war with the thousands of low level militants who make up al-shabaab traces back to the first term of the obama administration was sort of the subject of fraught internal fights between in particular herald code the state department and who took the more dovish position and jay johnson at the pentagon took the more hawkish position but also sort of flipped back and forth over the course of that term then in the second term of the obama administration Both of those guys are out of those roles. Of course but the obama launches a couple sort of refined counter-terrorism strategies. That are sort of become his signature. I've learned what i'm doing the in and right sizing the war on terror efforts. The first is in two thousand thirteen. He gives a speech at national defense university and he issues the presidential policy guidance which. I'm sure any listener to this. Podcast knows about. We're going to have the bottom line. Of which is we're going to have much more constraint as a matter of policy in terms of counterterrorism strikes drum strikes and otherwise outside of traditional war zones only striking at when there's a high level of agreement that a target poses a threat to americans not just to american interests and there's virtual certainty that no civilians will be killed and then the second part of his second term counter-terrorism strategy is he lays out in twenty fourteen at his west point speech and that is that the united states should not be sending his own forces. A heavy handed way to occupy Foreign countries in the muslim world. We should have a light footprint approach where we build up and and work with partner forces on the ground and we help them both in terms of training and advising and perhaps with air power systems that only we can offer and so these two principles are both about sort of constraint and not being heavy handed and creating situations they're gonna lead to blowback in that sense they sound aligned but it turns out as twenty fifteen in terms into twenty sixteen that there were an inherent there was an inherent tension between them the drone strike rules of twenty thirteen were designed against the backdrop of what yemen counter terrorism strikes which was the primary non hot battlefields zone of that time. Looked like where we did not have troops on the ground working with partner forces in any meaningful way. We were sending drones in from basis outside of yemen. They were taking a well planned strike and then they were leaving again but when you instead have a working with partner forces kind of operation like we now have in somalia. You got partners on the ground. And you've got american advisors who are embedded with them at their bases they're going to attract fire and they're going to need defending from that fire and then as the partner get built up and started going out on missions including missions by themselves which is the whole goal. They are going to get into harry situations. And that are going to need bailing out. And even though they the instigator of those fights. they're going to need defending as they. They don't get wiped out if they get into something that can't handle and so what we've seen in. The course of two thousand sixteen in somalia in particular is increasing tempo or frequency of these so-called self defense strikes either undertaken to defend african union or somali government forces with american advisors nearby. Who are also at risk or as the year unfolded. We saw a lot of these suddenly in late august. September somali government forces were as they've gotten trained up increasingly able to go out entirely by themselves on missions and then still got in trouble. And we needed to carry out purely collective self-defense. Strikes where there was no tie to protecting americans so so this increasing tempo brought to the surface really started with that march. five strike. The bobby mentioned where the one hundred fifty shebab militants are killed. And it's like that doesn't look like an ordinary self-defense. Strike and the concern the lead to questions in washington. They hadn't been consulted. It was purely africom decision to go forward in the quite the sort of worry was maybe this self defense exception to the p p. g. rules in sort of very careful limits of when we're going to take airstrikes outside of hot battlefields. Maybe the self defense exception to that can't be can swallow. The rule can become a loophole that opens the door to simply unconstrained warfare once again under the label of self rather than some other label. But that the the intent behind the twenty thirteen rules would be gut it that doesn't but on the other hand once you once you have troops on the ground and partner forces it is inevitable and so i think there was in working through that during this year. There was a growing sort of comfort normalizing that situation of sort of more regular self defense strikes but there was also a recognition that if this was going to be something that was going to be happening routinely rather than once or twice in a blue moon it raised increasing pressures on for what the domestic legal authority was for these strikes. It had to be purely article two commander chief authority if there was no americans at risk and if the partner forces were going after ordinary shebab guys and not necessarily the handful that had as individuals were deemed part of kedah as well This administration had gotten himself into trouble in libya. In twenty eleven with airstrikes that did not have congressional authorization and questions about the war powers resolution and its limits on operations that congress has not authorized and i think that a desire to leave counterterrorism policy in regular order without open questions and tensions there were unresolved and problems as they prepared to hand off this responsibility to the next administration which they of course thought was going to be hillary clinton donald trump but it led to the question of. Let's take another look at shebab. What does it look like today. Who's in charge. You know a lot of the different leaders of factions have since been killed since the last time they taken a really serious look at it. Is there a case to be made that this existing domestically authority can be brought to bear on the organization as a whole and if so should we now take this step in anticipation that this increased. Tempo of strikes is going to continue so that the next administration doesn't have to deal with a war powers resolution masses in walks in the door. All right so charlie. You have put a a bunch of big fat legal issues on the plate. And i'm going to ask bobby to unpack them a little bit. So one is the question of whether the designation of of al-shabaab as now within the ambit of the a. m. f. i. as opposed to not but Individuals in it may be is that plausible based on the public record Bobby in your opinion is that a is that a a an interpretation that the public record will support or is that an example of the endless spread of the math well past What the language of it will reasonably bear or both. You know this is something that in a classroom at a law school. We would call a mixed question of law. In fact in the reason that's important is that a There's a hard enough question about what are the relevant facts that is what does it even mean to talk about al. As a single organization given the factions within it who were the current leaders. What exactly are there Formal expressions of allegiance. You know you have a sub leaders who've expressed in islamic state allegiance There are others who have remained focused on al-qaeda judging from the public record as opposed to having access to the classified information. That's relevant I don't think any of us are in a great position to weigh in on what the right sort of factual state of affairs really is there. There's enough in the public record to make. It seem like it could be plausible but the hard part in a way isn't really this foggy. Fact pattern the hard part. Is that other piece. I mentioned the the legal question right. So how is this mixed question of in fact. Well it's bound up in some uncertain what i would describe as almost doctrinal details about what we mean legally when we say that there's an associated force of al qaeda engage still these against the united states. It's frequently been said in his in even set in statute that there is this idea of an associated force. What is what is never said in statute or in a public statement by administration officials. Is anything very granular. About what exactly. It means for these. These diffused networks to to count as an associated force. And you can imagine a lot of possible variables that might be necessary or sufficient conditions for such status. You know is it enough if the person who is the nominal leader of the overall group swears an oath of allegiance. swears by to I'm watery. is it necessary that they're also be some certain. Quantum of evidence note the uncertainty. About how much is necessary. Some certain quantity of evidence that the group takes direction and can in his under the control in some meaningful sense of the al qaeda senior leadership. there are a million ways when might slice it. And i'm not suggesting that therefore there ought to be a statute that tries to spell it all out in great detail. But i just want to emphasize we really don't know at least i don't know in other people on the outside. Don't know what goes on when there is a meeting whether it's within the pentagon or whether it's an interagency meeting and people are arguing the point back and forth where the fact where are the variables that they think are truly relevant in this sense because it it it is clearly not the case that simply claiming and al qaeda affiliation is enough that that much is clear from the public record. It's supposed to be something much more meaningful than that. But what are the real hallmarks of of Connection that gets you into the associated force category and then what degree of orientation towards the united states and external operations is enough related to that The formulation used for bringing someone within the ao math. In this manner is sometimes phrased as engaged in hostilities against the united states or its allies or its coalition partners It's very unclear to me. At least how much That latter part functions as an independent basis in other words. If you had a group that was not at all engaged. Still against the united states or external operations against us but was very much focused on attacking a local proxy force through which we've been acting in supporting such as either transitional government in somalia or or african union forces If they're clearly adjective attack and we are clearly working by with and through them. Is that enough. These are all elements of things that we just. Don't talk about much in the public record so this brings me to my second big legal question. Which is the vitality of the idea. That charlie just described of article two self defense by proxy that is You know everybody agrees that if there's an imminent threat to us. Forces that justifies in force protection context the use of lethal force. But you know what. Charlie's just described is a series of events over a period of time in which the just and what you described earlier was a series of events in which we were using lethal force. Not under the a. Umf but to protect allied forces african union forces in their war with al-shabaab. That is separate from the you. Math context and my question is how accepted. Is it that in the absence of congressional authorization that article to self defense force protection extends not merely to us forces but also to allied forces in an in an otherwise on authorized conflict so. I think it's actually quite controversial There's there's no doubt that there are people who who would resist that interpretation because there's a question of line drawing they're Given that we do deploy our forces around the world. We work by with and through a astonishing number of other allied Governments in indeed governments. That aren't on the front list of places that you think of. As our allies it does open the door to an awful lot. In in fact it opens the door to most of what you might want to use force for at least at a certain level of intensity So i think it's quite controversial. I do think that if you're looking for prior examples The obama administration Did something similar The distinguishable in the early days of the renewed involvement in iraq. That was precipitated by the surge of the islamic state. And i'm thinking here about the use of force in defense of third parties seemingly under color of article too Not because we were defending Security services or military's were supporting but actually in a straight up humanitarian fashion at mount sin jar in another examples from the early months. It's been a while now and we're all used to thinking about the current involvement against the islamic state as taking place under color. They yarmuth but let's recall that in the early months of the revived involvement at least through air power. The major argument there was being foot. Forty it was. It was never early on in. Amf argument people were still. I think sorting out whether they thought they could make that case given the al-qaeda islamic state's split What was taking what was being. Cited in the form of government statements was Defense type rationale immediate exigent defense in in the face of a potential humanitarian catastrophe. That was going to you know The destruction of a dam the muzzle damned it might then have downstream effects including threats to the us forces or simply the threat to the The persons who were taking refuge at mount singer written a lot that there was an article two operation and then it sort of was deemed in. Umf operation later. I'm not sure that that's correct. At least in terms of what the conversation was behind closed doors. I think people were because they didn't say a u. math in their public statements about seeing jar commentators of the l'affaire type jumped to the conclusion that it was an article to operation. It has been suggested to me that from the beginning they had already had this theory and they just weren't ready to publicly unveil yet. I don't even know what that necessarily means in terms of any sort of substance. But i i pointed out that i'm not. I'm not sure that they flipped theories at least in their own minds. That actually makes a lot of sense to me. And i don't doubt it was the case italy some people internally insofar as they were would have could have been pressed to make the point would say well you know i would ultimately put hang my hat on two thousand one or two thousand to a us but what this highlights is the the difference between what we might as sort of the theoretical main or best argument that behind closed doors. Some version of the interagency lawyer consensus Would attach itself to or sign up for versus. What the what. The public facing Subject to commentators claim seems to be. And it's it's gonna be the latter one in a lot of cases that ends up mattering in the in the great subsequent game of grasping for precedence right Absent a really clear statement. Either at the time or at least thereafter the did shows in fact. The theory was ex- not why if the public facing statements seemed to suggest why that's what people are going to latch onto and so when they're looking ahead and saying we'll have we ever used force in a circumstance where it really was. Just you know third party self defense. You know people will think kosovo and they won't really care if people back in the nineties said well. That's not supposed to be a precedent. That's that's a familiar argument. And i believe very much that. They're going to point to the early months of the intervention against the islamic state. And they'll say you know there's well there's well was a period in which they didn't seem to be friends center in in article two did even if at the same moment in time if you could have pressed the relevant people they said no. That's at best a supplementary theory. it's primarily statutory. Okay so where does this. That's actually a good transition to where this leaves us going forward. We have a new president coming in one who has Both made a very bellicose noises about crushing Certain terrorist groups of most famously promising to bomb the shit out of isis But has also in many ways. expressed a great deal of reticence about involving us in unnecessary wars overseas. And so my question is what What authority And what constraints based on the a. Umf does president obama leave for president trump. Well i would jump in to take the first crack at saying something interesting in that area. One thing we haven't discussed but that is a larger pattern that this some shabaab change fits into is that president obama setup all these constraints on his own contact of the sort of war on terror and but as he has been in his final year of office. There's a number of different ways in which he's been all loosening those constraints so we've been talking about one of them the sort of Shoring up of legal authority for this escalated tempo of strikes at the shabaab in somalia and the normalization of Routine or semi routine strikes. Both in unit and collective self-defense. outside of the image of the pg pg remains enforced there Another is that In july we think maybe early august they quietly deemed the area around sirte. in libya. to be an area of active hostilities was a strong is a stronghold of the islamic state and the us has been carrying out bombings there without obeying the ppga's turned the pg off there and so that's that demonstrates that the pg can be turned off each time. You do it it makes it easier to turn it off the next time you want to. And in june in afghanistan where supposedly the armed conflict was over Except obviously it kept going in various ways. There were limits on airstrikes After we pulled out and handed over power on and so forth we were going to carry out strikes only to defend ourselves obviously counterterrorism operations targeting the islamic state or al al qaeda or to prevent the afghan government from suffering strategic loss at the hands of say the taliban and in june a fourth category was quietly added to win. It was permissible to carry out airstrikes in afghanistan which was to take out people who were preventing the afghan government from or beating their ability to carry out their own strategic plans. And so someone you know. A shadow government in the government in the province of x. competing with the official government That doesn't necessarily fall into counterterrorism or self defense or any sort of category like that and so all these different ways the by the obama is handing over a set of constraints that he imposed that are been loosened. There's more wiggle room than there was before i think all these things were done a because it was thought operationally justified of course but also be with the thought that a clinton caned administration would becoming in and it'd be if not quite the same personnel much the same governing philosophy national security strategy that the obama people have pursued to see within what a trump administration will do with these constraints. Of course talk could simply throw out the pg entirely and open the throttle everywhere or he might want to continue it but certainly he'll have more wiggle room to act Not because he changed something about because obama did as he comes into office. What do you think bobby are we. Are we dealing with a situation here. Where obama is leaving trump fundamentally a legacy of Of interpretive restraint or fundamentally a legacy of interpretive empowerment that trump can then do what he does what wants to do with. I think it's a little bit more the latter. But i just don't think he's. I don't think there is much legacy really at all. there's As as charlie said the pg or the playbook this is sort of the the centerpiece of it. But it's it's very obvious and no one denies that It's it's discretionary entirely it's all policy and though there is in theory some perhaps friction involved in obliging your successor to actually formerly digit. I just don't think there's the slightest doubt that One of the first things trump will do is he will vary with relish will digit. And he'll he'll go out of his way to make sure we know he's ditching it so as to signal that What he'll characterize as sort of a weak predecessor has now been replaced by by him and he will be. You'll be more aggressive. I don't think he'll be looking very much to try to cite examples of things. Whether it's a imf interpretations or article two self-defense interpretations. I don't think he's going to care much about whether or not he can draw Some cover from his predecessor although he certainly will be agree. That certainly could do so. Because i agree that there is some of that cover there. I don't think it will matter much with him. it would. It would have mattered in a different way. I think if it had been president Hillary clinton and then to substantial extent. She'd be able to benefit by saying look. This isn't that different. I'm doing what went on before In so i think that the idea. It's not that obama's done things that are going to make it easier for trump to then do things trump. Would i think be doing these things regardless. Still it'll shape the conversation right and so you know on the one hand. Trump may not want to say well. I'm acting just like obama hills quite the opposite as you portray just sort of optics reasons of a new day but if people want to criticize that Then at least the you know trump will be the one making it but the the sophisticated conversation surrounding him Either coming from his administration are from sympathetic. Commentators will be well. Look but obama did this. Aren't you democratic party types of they're the ones you know a senator kaine in the back of the senate. If they're the ones making this argument they'll say on. You stopped for making that because obama did exit wind. It didn't bother you as much as you're professing to be bothered now. Trump is doing z. Which is like x. Y plus one but not out of the blue right now. That's that's clearly correct on on the pages of the blogs in in your articles where the we're all of us who are in the space kind of bounce ideas back and forth certainly on. Aol meth interpretations. If in when we get wind in let me. Actually digress here. Emphasize this whole conversation is more or less launch. Because of the great new york times reporting that reveals the al shabaab decision. Been i in jack and mad and others have been arguing for a long time. There needs to be a mechanism to ensure there actually is some public knowledge of these associated forces decisions. There's absent really good reporting. There's no particular reason to think that we would know this. Maybe the war powers resolution document periodically would drop hints sometimes explicitly not likely Under the trump administration to be very explicit but in any event When we engage in these debates there will certainly be with whatever we next learn about f. expansion there will certainly be some criticism from quarters that may well not have made that criticism under obama but will be more willing to do it under trump and there will be those and i'm sure i'll be among them who will be pretty quick to say hold on you know if if this is really a now just in the abstract to the things obama did We have to factor that into the mix. I don't think. I don't think trump or national skirt advisor. Flynn are going to care much. But it'll matter for our debates in then the interesting question is how much our debates going to matter over the next four years. I hope they matter a lot. But i'm worried about it. Law fares beside the point. I just also say sort of not quite indefensible. Obama would just sort of not letting make make listeners who jumps to the wrong conclusion by the tone of the last five minutes. That the fact that the pg remains in place notwithstanding that self defense and even collective self-defense strikes are now understood the depart part of it notwithstanding the fact that it got turned off. Insert it's still a very meaningful document. It is going to be a big deal. If and when president trump jetsons it it really does seem to have caused a greek throttling back in the number of strikes carried out away from conventional zone since since two thousand thirteen when it came into power into place and probably you know quite. A number of civilians are live today who would not be alive. Had had it not been the governing protocol albeit one that was understood as discretionary policy rather than mandated by law. And so obama may have created more wiggle room here or decided to normalize tolerate more wiggle room there but it's not like he's handing trump something where trump can already citing the obama precedents simply become unrestrained. It will be a big change when that if and when that happens you know one thing. That's worth emphasizing here. That you gave a great list earlier. Charlie of various things that have been changing by way of loosening up one. That's worth mentioning in light of what you just said that. We haven't noted before is the recent decision to remove some of the policy based constraints on targeting al-nusra the al qaeda affiliate in syria which Seems to have taken place in recent months That illustrates an important point which is not all the policy constraints are in the p. g. right There are a variety of theater specific constraints on precisely who we go after an under what circumstances and to what extent even within a full-fledged zone of active combat operations like syria so There there are a number of these constraints out there in the public. Really has some glancing familiarity with the p p g these other things i think are basically invisible to the public and i think a lot of the change. It's likely to go on will involve some of the policies that on the outside. We don't even really necessarily know all that much about a related to that I think it's significant that there's been talk recently about Increasing the independence of j. sock in terms of the ability of the regional combatant commanders to have not just inside into but control over. What sort of operations. Maybe taking place in. Perhaps though the stories are little unclear the stage perhaps empowering special operations command to play more of that independent operational command role This has been described as an effort to ensure that the j. sock global jason efforts against al qaeda and the islamic state will be more efficient and more effective in less subject to Region specific considerations that particular combatant. Commanders may have in mind. I think that's a space in which some of these unseen by the public policy constraints may go by the wayside in ways that are very meaningful and it may or may not really touch on the g. We are going to have to end it there. 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There's every reason every reason to but there is no there is no cost. So that's the reason you might not if you like iot. Please sign up for the newsletter. If it's not your jam that's okay ten you know. That's my philosophy. Always right to make anybody do anything and You know who stayed quiet during this whole time shows. He's smart smart pruitt. Aunt pruitt's here in hands on talk about smart. But i am quiet. You have borrowed john oliver's glowing white chamber for your shots today good. I like it just a slight change. He always he always refers to that on his show last week tonight. So stacy i just wanted to say. My tone of voice has been pretty good today. Yeah are you friendly. Are you positive. Yeah it's really wild. If you turn on you've been locked into a studio all by yourself so well. I'm talking to people i for for instance his weekly. It said you sounded mostly focused so so calm skeptical. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Here's my My my data. This is the amazon halo band. And even though it's kills the battery. I turn it on. This is pretty good. You have an over the show. That shoulder shot john. We still do right So that's the little. Greg can't see that very well. Only one percent negative two percent extra. But that's because you're a radio guy as you make even insults. I think probably does work around eight fifty for you always done. I'm surprised i was sad at eight fifty this morning. I had two phrases sad and restrained after your pilates. It was it was during my pilates How did you know that's very good. Sat and restrained mostly going over. I found myself surprised. Because i think of myself as a genuinely pretty positive person and it was i was either neutral to negative. Most of the time are remembered. You were saying that. But i'm mostly neutral to i i so though this weekend's cool because we can do it live to as i'm talking about right now. I sound interested knowledgeable and focused. When i was showing off. My yeah and then. If i go like this ant pruitt. I sent amused happy and friendly. So i can't let us i can't agri. It's terrible right now. Actor right right you suck at acting. Isn't that funny that it can It does it now. I'm curious interest. Skeptical again isn't it funny. Isn't it interesting. I think this is actually surprisingly accurate. Lease for me. Because it's very positive i had an invite out for that thing Requested it but they haven't emailed me like the email me too. I didn't me. It was when stacey was talking about last week i went to the site and said oh yeah you have four days by it. Sixty nine bucks. You get six weeks six months of free service. I doubt pay for it after that. But it's interesting and then of course it's a fitness band. Yeah you. I know you wanted to do it for Hands on wellness. I guess you could borrow mine. You wanna borrow mine. Sure all right right to use ants photo. Have you taken the photo yet. And are you gonna use ants photo for your body percent. Oh i forgot about that to me. You've figured out my plan High fat percentage is pretty high. Believe it or not even though it's not it is i want to see i'm right at thirty percent or something like thirty percent thirty percent. Wow i don't know why does leone. I don't wanna know i don't want to. I haven't i like you. Stacey cmo because you have to pose in front of the camera. But i'm gonna do it. I just. I just started wearing it this morning. Because i had to charge a couple stiff drinks before you do. I know i know how we i am. I don't it's not going to disappoint me. In any way he is his career with his life is an open book. I'm my crown camera. Not naked but i you know. Thank you know. Jeffrey to i was still very considerably. No no i understand. I really do i. It's funny because i thought that. How hard can that be. And then i started looking at. It was like taking a picture and it's going to amazon or not not no. They said they offer you choice. Do you want to back up this in the cloud in you can say no. Keep it on the device and then they're like if something happens to your device you'll lose this information you're like exactly the point want. I think it's interesting. I you know. I think a lot of people look at it and say oh. It's just amazon. Wants microphone on you all the time alcoholic. I don't think that's the case No amazon so the microphone data from for tone that actually deletes itself after twenty four hours and then none of that data actually goes to amazon. So none of your utterances that it's picking up on and none of that analysis goes to amazon according to amazon. I think it's really. I think that's the only reason i got it because i have look. I have three fitness devices on my apple. Watch fit you are. Yeah look how much look what kind of and then the aura ring. So i'm going to have plenty of stuff but And i have a sleep tracker my bed. So i know my sleep so i don't really need it but except that one unique thing does that tone of voice analysis which accident kinda fascinating using a hours. Well i have. My best friend. Is a therapist hinge. she was. We went on a hike the other day and she was really intrigued by. She's she because she actually uses little pulse oximeters to measure people's heart rates for drake couples therapy interest like track when people get into kind of. It's not just call it. Flat response right Like when they get to a point where they she knows. They can't hear each other than she like has some measure that and calms him down a little bit and i don't know she thought this was really interesting so i'm fascinated by it because i'm fascinated by me anything that's more me i'm all in. I'm all about that. I'm fascinated by data about me. Yeah and me. You're a though it's it is. It's a little bit Here i'll use a big word solid cystic but But that's me the former ceo of google. Remember a guy named eric schmidt. He's talked to become a citizen of cyprus delighted to have of course they are Recode says in effect. He's buying a passport. He can use to enter the rest. You find any reference to how much it cost. I couldn't find a reference to the stories. I ask it's too much. Let's let's look into it. Maybe i should just apply. There are about a half dozen programs all around the world where foreigners can effectively purchase citizen rights by skirting residency requirements. By giving him some money. Or s- khloe callback right here in the host goons best two point. Zero billion euro in property. So if you bought a house for two million alston cypress on the on the water. He's not going to live at any less than a million dollars right. Nothing to him It might be cheaper to go to saint kitts or nevis in the caribbean. It's an nievas not orange. It's an the nor the cyprus program has brought in eight billion dollars since its twenty thirteen. Bankruptcy it's been very and therefore thousand recipients mostly russian in russian oligarch drive up property values. The the idea is that it's a you're now You have any you passport. So i was actually thinking about doing the same thing. Maybe in portugal Because it would be nice. You don't have to stay where you know wherever you bought that citizenship. Move around I i actually. I rounded down. You need to make a two million euro investment in real estate plus one hundred thousand euro donation to the government research fund one hundred thousand dollars to the land development physician. Okay after five years you can reduce your investment. You can you can downsize to five hundred thousand euro but you're well but you still have to have something by smaller condo. They've actually the endgame is though for the end game is to have a passport that allows you access to europe so it by the way. It wasn't just him. He got for his wife and his daughter pricey so well come on. He's a billionaire he grab it And so yeah i mean. I think there's a couple of reasons you might get it. It's interesting that this article appears right after the election But i wouldn't be surprised if some people are weren't saying well. Let's see what happens in the election. And i might be moving at a town which i think is reprehensible but you know what i've heard more so is at least from the tech side of things is after the election or even before their lesson is most of tech is just trying to get out of frequency silicon valley because of kobe. The way california's sation this doesn't affect him because he's just he's no longer own a business in california he's just a rich guy right deal with this but remember larry page wanted his remember that o. Eilly his own island at the end at the end of a keynote. He's just said you know. Wouldn't it be great if we had an island with no regulation. That's what we want the google and that's honestly very very rich people but i guess that's kind of like in the back of their heads they may not say it out loud or even think it but the back of their heads. I just wanna go somewhere. Where i could be me right. But who's going to work on that island. How are you going to treat those people. Of course i mean right no. It's a nonstarter. I mean it's crazy. But the rich as scott fitzgerald one set or not like you and me clearly not only not so la vida. Golden visas put the link and the rundown right underneath story Basically packages the deal. Here's the apartment you can buy. Oh with your visa. So they're going to skim a little off of that too. Golden visas dot com slash cyprus. So good i have to accept so many things so look. Cypress is pretty. It's on this on is on the mediterranean. I think it is. Yeah it's eu. English is widely spoken south of turkey. I believe what it said. yeah it's cyprus offers. The quickest assured route to citizenship. They wore oftentimes You know they're they say okay. Montenegrian ice look montenegro. Much less expensive from three hundred fifty thousand euros. That's pretty good germany. Three hundred sixty. Portugal registered residency. That doesn't get you pass. Oh yeah you gotta get a lot more to get into. Portugal irelands a million full family residency. No requirement to reside minimum. Stay one day. So this is this is really a you know it's interesting. Wait a minute you could do in the us. You just have to ireland one million. That's now that's deal. It's more than the us. The us is only nine hundred thousand plus an e be five approved investment. And you get your green card see where all these people sit on the border trying to get in just ten nine hundred thousand dollars your five and you're said squared away grenades cheap. Let's go to grenada seeing look at that and that pretty soon the costa spain. No i think it's an kirby you get vis-a-vis. I think it's the fees a free travel to the uk the schengen countries and china. And it's cheap ireland's the best. I can't believe this business. Golden visas dot com. This amazing why do you think ireland such a good deal. It's the most expensive a million euros. But i just like To live in ireland. He thinks everybody in tux. That's oh halo. jeff jarvis. Welcome to our country top of the marin into you. They're not all leprechaun's jeff. I just got to tell you. This is an ideal program for high net worth families seeking residency in europe. It'll be particularly attractive to businessmen entrepreneurs and journalism professors. Oh that what they're selling is the the universities that you get. Get your kids in a good clue that they should see laurie. What's her name should have just done this instead of spending all that money. Usc just get a irish visa irish visa. That feels like slang for something. Don't look that up. Oh he got an irish visa not to mention the dutch. Turn around Nope nope not good. Not good google is. These are the three google stories. Dumol google is moving to bring high speed network to africa via experimental light. Beams here is it just fiber. I mean salsa beams so it's visible light beams through the air. The high speed data transmission through incredible light beans between tara islands project tara tara terminals mounted on high up on existing towers or rooftops. Whoa wait a minute. Stacey each link between terminals can transmit twenty gigabits per second over twenty kilometers. Wow on repeaters. Sorry about my dog. That's he's excited. Never there's no apologies presume. Dogs they've tried already trialed this in india and mexico. Now they're looking at beginning in kenya and then pan african roll out. Each science project was to try to figure out how to transmit data with light through the air. And i could of course figure it out because i was in eighth grade with late with those late. All around. what's the science of caesar's. But is it laser. He could have lasers case so all light is a wave right And a great start. Stacey class start jeopardize july is a wave and a particle. Okay yes thank you can use it. Just i mean you can transmit data over that just like you transfer it over in. There's invisible light. There's you know there's explaining great. Jeff stacy what's spectral great aunt. And that's that's the question. I'd be a fifth grader. In this conversation one jewish science fairs in the Really sixth grade that we went to a new school they said you want is for. Is this a perfect class where he was the whole term. Adjust science one project. I picked a project that i couldn't do anything with stupid. That's because do you could have just like flashed morse code the have seven forty. It'd be like working in a room with light on dr. Yeah i want. I really want to understand what they're doing here. And this article is not helping me. The point is because they don't have to dig cables so in effect you're using these beams instead of cables to connect and that is it line of sight. What is the band microwave. It may be just microwave because as you know jeff light is a wave and a particle. See i'm thinking like okay. If his wavelength lights are lights we can see the different colors right. You know that like red is on one wavelength and blue is on another right. So that's how we see. What did you say. want all white as wave. Why they call. Is that true. True me on the final okay. But you can use the you can send data over those and you can What's it called modulate. Just like a fiber optic cable do but you don't need the Cable around it. But i don't know. I don't know anything about like the ups and downs of because i don't know where they are in terms of invisible late so are they are hearing from the x project page like fiber but without the cables. Tara uses light to transmit information at super high speeds through the air. As a very narrow invisible is in okay so remote sa- big huge clicker right. Yeah it's just outside the you did it for eighth grade. Jeff thank you. Yeah okay doesn't it doesn't give a lot of details about this spectrum or the frequency or any any of that but Yeah it's going to be outside of the visible spectrum and it's going to modulate because when you're shooting something like that that could be pretty energy intensive oh well but that's the beauty of lasers because they're so a coherent doesn't have to be a huge amount of you're not trying to burn holes in the other guy light bad. Do you want this data. Anybody want to join the conversation. If it's lasers. I mean so when you have microwave the frequent see like it. Things will attenuate it but like a bird. Flying through is not going to totally disrupt your signal right but like if you're using but rain no wouldn't kill anything but rain. It's be high energy but rain and fog and stuff mine impacted. Anything that could break the beam of light mine. I was thinking not even that in anything as simple as like a leaf falling and that could break the right as opposed to. There's a slightly wider dispersion with a little know the packets lost of. It'll figure it out right if it's using. Tc will send again. I bet you they're doing something like that sure. Well that was a fascinating that was that was that was he. Google and now stacy's thinking go good. The show is over. we finish stories. I could go have another brownie. I gotta start facebook half cool goal. Dougal okay. Facebook and google have extended their bans on political ads indefinitely. Jeff has to say about this. Google plans to review the situation weekly facebook doesn't say what kind of ended it would be. I suspect this has something to do with the fact that the result of the election is disputed by the republicans but An and there's a lot of you know obviously misinformation spreading On social media about this. I don't know if they're blocking that though but there is a huge problem. Which is the next story. Which is that we have a gigantically important runoff. All that's right yeah. That's i asked at twitter. They said nope. We're not going to be Race specific it's a global ban on them and so i think a real problem. Is this file this under. Be careful what you wish for. Twitter has all these facebook all these often labs as you get rid of them now. You have campaigns that can't afford to advertises clearly to two groups and we're dependent upon tv again. Congratulations no one watches. Tv that's the problem. Yeah that's the problem over huge amount of his view but do people watch. the ads. aren't the best way to To try to win an election is at pasta. One way you could control though and you've got very little time to do it. Well i mean look how. Look how successful The president's rallies were. That was a very good way to killing people. Yes well they're not dead yet but a minoan. I mean i think we can okay. Covert aside that certainly galvanized His base and got a lot of votes and got and got out the vote so There's other ways to do it. Maybe maybe you can't do. You can't do door to door. that's how you'd normally do it. So this was the new door to door. And now they're point that's a point without telling canvassing which by the way the trump organization did do biden. Did not you still have. I mean not. People have shown up at my door they. They're wearing a mask they're far apart. They stand but you're trying to get to the whole state in a very short amount of time this is l. one election should last but it's going to be a six week election from now and or six or seven whatever it is but a short and january got reach a lot of people and you want to reach them with a targeted message which is not not awful can reach young people with different message. That old people. That's okay and social media you do that. And now now it's cut off and so they'll be worried money. Going into gold media and kelly leffler has self-funding. She's got plenty of money And reverend warnock Her opponent is really a grassroots campaign. So it probably would disadvantage him more than it would leffler right exactly. That's interesting yeah Yeah that's really. Yeah that's a very good point. What so what is. What is their rationale for continuing the ban on political trouble lifespan. Better without it. I mean if i get it. If i were them i'd say good. Let's let's keep going. Yeah all we got crap. If we didn't factor revamp add. We don't make any money on. It really is hardly blotted actually my fault because you asked me if i were at a dinner party with mark zuckerberg what would ask them to and i ban political ads and obviously he must've enjoyed the meal because he listened. So it's my fault. Take brownies brownies. Went so interesting. Statistic from facebook Maybe a little self serving. But according to facebook zone posts see on facebook in the us only about six percent of it is is Political content most of it is just you know the other stuff really. Cats cats does that. Does that ring true. I mean it is facebook's own does because people don't really care about about politics as much as we think they do. This is about what they share. This is what what they choose to do. The problem here is facebook. Owns a company called crowd ankle which the new york times uses to say. What's the most popular thing on facebook while the most popular thing on facebook as we've discussed before is still small because nobody sees the same facebook. It's not mass media so bass beady looks at it. This says proud tackle since this is the most important story on facebook and that that most important story is nothing. So what's this says. Look at in. The context of the whole news as a whole is four percent of content on facebook politics as a whole is six percent. I'm sure there's a lot of overlap in those two been by grams or it's interesting 'cause with facebook's numbers at top us pages by engagement Are on their all political. Except that's the crowd simple numbers for jesus daily That's crowd tangle. But then if you actually look at pages by all posts on then doda. Rick lacks steve. Steve harvey really. Aarp steve harvey three percent of us. Weekly active people reached by by steve harvey page any the host of food but he's a former comedian but he has he's funny syndicated radio show. Who's relaxed laxes. He's equally big the dodos number one well as it should be cute animals not the dodo. So no no. That's the site which is nothing cute. Oh okay don't you watch dodo. Max is a magician. He's a magician. Okay see this isn't so bad folks. So relaxing steve harvey and aarp roughly tied then justin flom the president tasty recipe. Not a magician. He's called himself a deception expert He he debunks musicians. I know he's a magician you for just a week ago musicians randy ready. I love raising randy on leo seriously. You don't watch the dodo. No at least those. Every once in a while. Lisa leonov saying i know you hate these but look then. I have to watch some cute video. They're really cute. Never heard of it. But you haven't we show gotta show we gotta show we're gonna change here. We're going to follow on twitter. You can follow me on instagram star. Dodo dot com daily dodo Dog fakes a limp. Every time he sees the stairs okay. I'm sure i've seen some stuff like this in my stream somewhere and i don't actively seek pino the pup who is a maze master. Yeah jerry lewis corgis going to go look at him. Go through the Gatorade bottles without knocking single one over if he could play for clemson You'd be all over a man online looking at that like. Hey there's nothing here. Hey this is great to do with your dog. If you have gatorade bottles and spare time they really they love it. It's a mental. It's challenging for them. It's fun and you're in to teach them to do this. Engaging with them and they're then they're not laying around board wrestle. My dog likes to find and wrestle. Do you have to do the funny voices. Oh look there's a big doughnut. The middle of that one. Oh sorry you kill. Him has corgis camelback app. It's not a well known fact that they don't have a backup they've just got a wide turning radius. That's what's amazing is that the corgi doesn't just walk through the bottle like she takes it so seriously he's he that's because he gets reward when he does it right love sally how much training this involve. It depends on the job. Working are really smart. Like i mean. I wouldn't think a whole lot because this is not. This is not something they wouldn't do like when i did agility training with my dog with data on similar herding dog. They they love it. They really jeff just like you can have the baby elephant. That can't figure out his own. Trunk the dog. That smashes snowmen the tortoise the stop beating shoes now or i'm thinking the baby elephant. Maybe often that that that The i'll turn off this silly music. He just doesn't understand that that's his nose hanging in front of him. I'm starting to feel sorry for him. I think this is elephant abuse often. I it seems like he's doing perfectly well figuring out this. No i don't know what's Stand back here comes mom's leg. Oh boy that was click bait. Yeah that was click. Pay their the dodo. Screw auger dog with the snowman. Yeah sorry our show. That mr jarvis you just went through and showed at all of these other top pages are what's what's showing up inside of facebook and pretty much said that no one really cares about the political ads and a smaller number that we fear. That's all okay so with that said why does it matter if the political ads are taken away. Because nobody's watching anyway right. Well the difference here since you asked is that that's content for advertising gets shown to you because you paid okay so you could gives you gives the speaker this. Casey advertiser control. And that's what this is. The this is the problem with facebook. Because they'll say publishable say people don't look at my stuff and facebook is two answers for that one is be more engaging and people will share chancellor or make an ad. Yeah okay exactly. So that's the difference is that is that you can you can then reach the people you know you want to reach by pain. And the thing is in. It's so much cheaper than any other medium right and more and more efficient because you can really target. Is that an answer. That is an answer i was. I was curious. Because i personally don't see anything wrong with political ads went away but then again i'm a different breed of person. A lot of crap care about you know. But that's exactly why facebook and google or no rush. They know people don't want to see him and they know it's a hassle because people complain and then you're blocking some and you know this becomes just just like jeff said it's like so there and they don't make that much money from political ads. It's funny because radio and tv. do they really all. This is their season. Yeah as you said your mother aunt right this. Mommy said that there were some pain. Like eighty grand for thirty seconds spot right political but i'm on radio or tv on television. They by they have to buy by the rack rate. They can't get discounts because that would be biased. So it's but. I don't think it's that much money for facebook. They they'll fill those veils. No only problem. So it's not a loss of revenue. It's a it's a loss of pain in the butt and it's and you have happier customers. The only the only people who suffer here is the american democracy. Check your wife chick. You wise dan. Lewis gonna go. Wow you're deep leo era. Let's take a break. This is becoming like almost a comedy show. We've we've completely changed the tenor of this. Show the last six months has it. It's more like you know. Let's watch them elephants If we had a taco bell ad. I would do one. 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Everybody was saying all this. There's going to be so many good uses for this and so forth. And so on. And i don't know if the e ink technology hasn't advanced as fast as some thought. Or what i mean. For instance the kindle still isn't quite you know black text on white paper quality rice a little soft contrast Even the latest ones and they've gotten faster and the resolutions gotten higher. But it feels like ian remember. They're eating phone inc. I remember a couple years ago. Yeah china sea asia. I i think it was. I fly tech or something like that. I've tried to look up. But they talked about similar tech. Like what you're working with right now. And i remember the feel of. It felt great from a tactical standpoint. But at the same time. You're looking at it in a little fuzzy here. There just didn't seem like it would pan out. It's possible that it's not. It's just not a technology that's people want. I guess that has got beautiful screen with all these colors or paper. I like beautiful screen with colors. Use my kindle that often you know. I love my kindle reading an ipad or my phone. I give give books back to the library. If i can't read it on the kindle and they're like oh you must open it and the overdrive like don't wanna read it. I mean it's not that. I don't use kindle stuff but i do it most often on computer or a phone or a tablet a very little on the actual kindle device so i like listening to audio books while i while they're being read on the kindle or going back and forth that's very good there are books feature. Yeah oh that's well. I guess i'll wait because i can't find my email so i guess it may work for you though it's exactly right. I think it's very dependent on your use case. Yeah it is. That's what i'm saying. Beautiful hardware note taker. Read my handwriting. And i had i was organized. And did those It'd be gorgeous. Yeah aspirational thing. I have. I find myself doing this all the time either. I will write a journal and three weeks later. I stop or i will take more notes as i read this aspirational thing. Because they're all so great. If you do your tzeltal cost as you're reading and then Then you off your ideas will and i just. It's always too much trouble. I just wanna listen to a book and go to bed. Maybe ambition has died in. This old frame is that possible. Jeff they lose your ambition as you get older. I'm not going to answer very young but That's very common ambitious than they used to be. When i was i mean you just don't you're tub with your life for your offspring. You're not fighting for the chance to have austrian things that just don't deserve your energy anymore. I've reproduced so you know. I'm just going to get a lot of got your pip- and go to. Yeah what's my what's the point. You don't see doing nothing that we're driving father. This is great about podcasting. It's close to doing nothing as you can get for yourself. You can sweat doing nothing So the amazon in trouble now with the eu. So see i this is. Did you see tiktok. There was a story about tiktok in the news today. Saying hello hello and he is. What's going on be tomorrow. You're supposed to put out of business. Hello tiktok are we still doing that. Tiktok says the trump administration is forgotten about trying to ban it. And they wanna know what's going on. What's the latest and they haven't heard more than a month from cfius committee for foreign investment united states. Which is the enforcement arm. They set a deadline of tomorrow. November twelve for tiktok to divest itself of any tangible or tangible as property wherever located us to enable and support bytedance's operation of the tiktok application. The united states they did get get a preliminary injunction beatles stone And then nothing in the nearly two months they talk says in a statement since this is to the verge since the president gave his preliminary approval to our proposal to sell to walmart oracle. We've offered detailed solutions to finalize that agreement but have received no substantive feedback our extensive data privacy and security framework. Nothing the imminent deadline tomorrow without an extension in hand. We have no choice but to file a petition in court. We have fifteen hundred employees in the us. What's going on. i'll tell you what's going on the election's over done a toy. Your your bigger game. So i can understand why they might be a little perturbed. They spent millions of dollars on ads to convince the american people that they were a benign funds social network and people were making money on it. They went to court it all. Seven crickets crickets. I wonder what the walkaway are. So let's let's just say that they managed to get court delays until january twenty at biden says yet and i wonder you know is oracle going to be anything for not getting hunk of tiktok. Was there even egos lord. Was there even agreement with oracle we do. We ever see an agreement or is it just like. Oh yeah we'll do it. It's true other than a promise. Yeah well hosting your cloud sure. Yeah so funny. It's like it's like one of those just it's like hanging out with a crazy person. They're like you better do this by then. And you're like okay. I and then you get close to the date just wandered around still doing something else in. You're like so about that thing that you told me. Actually if our tiktok. I just shut up right and just zero. But what is the in like a week comes down and finds them right or something right those two ways about it they could just shut up and be quiet or they can discontinue to attack them to say. Hey look we we put on next out there you putting all it is ridiculous information out there about us. We we got business to run so was and just keep attacking did ministration publicly. And maybe you'll get that hit dog to bark for the phone. Call ms cooper could you lay off trump for about six weeks Go ahead on twitter. We don't care but just just just on tiktok trump drugs please. Wbz baz cooper famous now for lip synching. The president has. Has she done anything lately. Or is she just quiet. Let's question. she has nothing to work with his out. There that's right. He's that's a good point is just tweets plus. She's trying to break away from that she's trying to get. Yeah yeah. She made her fame. She doesn't want me day. That would be the worst. Wasn't she doing something with netflix. My imagine she's got a special but that's that's her. That's her larger comedy. Yeah and she also had a book that she wrote like a while back. Okay how to impress people in meetings. Oh google experience it was. Oh cool cool so the eu however is not resting in fact now. they're going after amazon. Any trump suit against amazon. And they're and they're two different issues that the eu is looking into a sorry. Let me stop the audio that They opened an investigation in to partly because of this dual role amazon has as a marketplace and a seller. They wonder if data from the sellers is being unfairly used by amazon to create and sell its own products. That investigation began last july and And this is the culmination of that. The investigation found that amazon does feed non-public seller data the number products order in the seller's revenue into its own retail items to help it decide which new products to launch and the price of each new offer. That's according to marta vista. Your i guess that's illegal in the eu is illegal here because certainly grocery stores and other grocery stores and department stores in everybody attia and and and is always good on this but we wouldn't have generic products on grocery store shelves. If they didn't right right and the reason they decide to make it as they know what sells they have inside knowledge about what sells and so they decided. Well let's make our own And the other thing is still there just like amazon is no different from what macy's does with his house brand or kroger's with grocery stores as they actually go to. There are plenty of companies like make the store brands and also the packaged like the cpg. Right right so that's that old friend in that it's just a marketplace so if it's promoting its own stuff over somebody else's stuff there's no benefit to the people who have the somebody else's stuff so the results of this investigation began last july are that amazon has breached. Us trust rules but before penalties are imposed the eu says. The investigation must be completed. The pro could according to cnn. Business drag on for years and expose amazon a potential fines of up to ten percent of its annual global sales. Or that would be a penalty of about thirty seven billion dollars now. The second investigation Whether amazon artificially favorites its own retail offers when you see the Amazon recommendation boxes The by box do does amazon favorites own stuff or not. Our concern says. Marta vexed style. You're our concern. Is that amazon. They artificially push retailers to use. Its own related services which locks them deeper into amazon's ecosystem. These are all i guess. Classic antitrust issues. I would like to see the dash data on this because that's just like someone wining One person whining about their product not being pushed up. But i'm pretty sure it's more than one person. I'm pretty sure it's more than one hundred vendors or something you know it's got to be way invested and i guess i'd like these investigated it right and you come up with that because if you look at your own amazon page in in all recommendations that pop up it may be fifty fifty split on amazon basic stuff versus some other. Oem at least it is for me. But i'd like to see the other issue survey so had a good piece that he wrote. That's right below that the rundown where he also depends on on. If you're going to try to argue this kind of market manipulation you've got into blind water. Markets does amazon really have have a monopoly. And so the the argument here. Is that if you looked at retail amazon has somewhere between five percent of retail and which amazon. What amazon is quick to tell you that. Yes exactly if you look at them in books They've half of bulwer half of us book. Sales and three quarters of hebrew quarters of e-books right one percent of grocery sales. Even walmart has twenty percents. So you can't complain about the buying whole foods so in this case You're right anthem. And then the question is what was in within thereby marketplace opportunities do sellers. Have and the thing i. I think that amazon will argue. Is we take off all those third party sellers And they'd be far worse off true. And so what are the consumer before worse off because we each other on price and we give consumers choices. and that's there and we give these these sellers marketplace. They wouldn't otherwise have so fine. We'll take down actually won't part of the business but but at some point it becomes a hold of world now so because it's it's copetition complicated. Have you been here in the sentiment of especially nowadays with the pandemic we should stop ordering from amazon and support the local businesses. I'm going to sell. My child is charged. Her gift list is at a local bookstore And it it is. My parents love to give her books and they do not have a lot of money and like a lot of the books are lake twenty six dollars but they're like eighteen dollars at amazon in this. I can't dictate to some. I'm like i am not going to tell my parents don't buy them amazon because my daughter thinks it's unethical because she is a teen and while that's yeah but she's also very privileged price race right. I mean i'm fine saying right. I see what you're doing here. I will support this in. I will tell you that we can buy books. And i say that i'm like hey if we have this budget you know. Are you willing to give full book. Because that's what this will cost you. And she's like yes but i still like i'm gonna tell my parents and they're gonna be like yeah. They're not gonna be cool. Some wires local bookstore more expensive. They don't have the economies of scale ability to bludgeon. the publishers. Have rent. I mean amazon does have rent so that would argue. That they're amazon really does have in some respect A lock on the market. That's not necessarily right okay. So let's take books out of the. Let's take books. I'll give you a concrete example from a friend of mine who Made a product. You know he probably got you. Know he's got somebody designed it got it made china and started selling it on amazon. You know because it's it's really a great way to sell stuff is to do the film and everything but all of a sudden. His product is being sold by amazon directly. His product is being sold by amazon directly. Apparently they're buying it and selling it at a higher cost and then the prices go all over the place because it's algorithm mic. Oh and he's. I don't know if you i hear the final result of this i but it damaged his business for sure amazon in effect just muscled him bodily from him right charging more but then his sales disappeared somehow. Because maybe the recommendation. I don't know they brought pro his product from him. No i'm trying to well. Yeah i guess. They're buying a lower price than i don't know there may be listening to this price fixing comes to. This is the case with cuisinart. Zebras tried to have a set prices. And it went to court as the deli in new york. This case was doing discounting and cuisinart cuisinart. Tried to pull the product from bars and say interesting because apple does that. Apple is very tight control of the channel. They do not let people undercut the retail price. So maybe that court decision. I don't know how they get away with it. Yeah sure but. I can't remember the exact he doesn't. I may be telling this wrong but it but it was clear that amazon was manipulating the price and doing something that ultimately hurt him. You're right. They're buying it from him. Maybe maybe ended up being. They made a clone of it. I got it for. Yeah that's that's you. That's all i'll ask them about the the details on this. I was very bitter. But she cuddly company the way they what they pay their employees the way they treat folks issues on the other hand. You know it it. It gives everybody especially the pandemic. is everybody this. Incredible range of choice and at good prices and it does provide a marketplace for for retailers. You know they could do a nicer job of it. And that's probably what's going to get the says the real question. Is this just a temporary period while we reorganize all around online or is this really predatory situation You know from the point of view of consumers being able to buy that that Your daughter's book list At a significant discount on amazon. It's a lot easier for them. There's a lot to be. i mean. That's a huge customer convenience. That amazon's giving her your parents. So that's not a bad thing in the publishers are getting as much. I get presumed getting cut that they can live with. That's the thing of the people lose on. This is the local bookstore who's charging significantly and stuff like that. Yeah those people are lose output. I well they'll be gone. A lot of people going to stand it. Amazon is a spot for small businesses to serta goods as well yes amazon will have some sort of cut out of it or whatever but people just seem to pooh-poohed fact that you shouldn't buy from amazon because they're just destroying the the the local businesses when they never even think about the fact that the same local business may have an amazon store that you can write off from well in a way. That's what i'm saying is is this just the market rearranging itself Because you know somebody like aunt could sell books out of his house and not to have a bookstore and do you know and and maybe that's not a bad thing i you know then. There's a societal thing i mean. I understand your daughter's concern stacey because she wants to have a place you can go in town. that's a bookstore. she's go ahead. Jeff you can say is a teenager being being virtuous really hard deliver with. Because you can't say don't be virtuous kid be proud for it. I think it's great. I think that's really yes. The alternative is way worse. Like if she's like to bit crude in the backyard like screw the dolphins. Yeah you just be glad. Yeah you on the other hand. What do you think you think. Jeff bezos is like that when he was sixteen. Take over the world. His father was a circus. Act like a performer. Yeah i think he was famous for his unicycle. Act like calling somebody. A circus act of insulting. No he literally was not an insult. I read this in that book. That wonderful that wonderful book About amazon and i forget the name parents divorced mother married. So he's. He was born. Jeffrey preston jordan johnson right. His parents divorced. His father was a bike shop owner. Oh maybe i missed that he married. Miguel mike basil way off. No i swear to god. It was in the engineer for exxon. Yeah you don't leo this. You can't believe what you hear on podcast insane. Us a bicycle store. Maybe you know. We're going to have to get brad stone on and he's gonna have to explain it. I'll find the book it's in the everything's start which by the way great book even though now it's a few years old And and at the time it really annoyed. Jeff bezos even more so mackenzie basis. Who wrote a horrific scathing review on the amazon site of the book the star but it was a really good inside. Look at amazon and how it worked and despite all the criticism from the bezos family as far as i know is accurate so i think he's birth father non-aligneds as a line cook in the breakfast shift. Who did jeff jeff did so did i well. No i had the closing shift. So i had put hundreds of stakeouts but saw If you take your appetite of breakage take the ponderosa steakhouse so he's birth father. Ted jorgensen had a bike shop like what my day job. I swear to kind swear to god. I read in that book that he was a circus performer. Originally maybe he went from. You can't be a unicyclists forever. Maybe he went from being a unicyclists to owning a bike shop. That would make sense sort of ibm now. I can see this little motion graphic above your head trying to connect the dots. I'm trying you're in there just going in circles to see his father as a child with us long to a unicycle. Troupe yes Did okay okay and worked a retail store making the dog. Twenty five an hour and didn't have much money gentle biological father with the disarming the book a star unicyclists and he didn't even know that his son was jeff bezos so betas birth father was a big name unicycling circuit. Okay it says it right here in the daily mail. So you know it's true. This is from brad stevens book to. Yeah all right. His grandparents belong to the caravan club airstream trailer. Here's a picture of him on his unicycle. I rest my case okay. Oh there are pictures. I don't know i don't know book. Finder dot com. That's an awesome sight. It is best. Because i needed by lot of old books about books and stuff the way things are out of print. I wouldn't do this to occur and author. But but it's i it's every as a book. Everything and bookbinder is spectacular looking for old books. I'm gonna get dizzy. I actually used it because If you want out of print books or yeah but the other point is stacey it also has new books on their from local stores here right so you could buy local Still by the local store somewhere in support the right who paid us other book. I've gotten lately which. I didn't know there are books. Came out in the uk that were coming out here for six months and i needed them. you can order directly from blackwell's blackwell's dot co dot. Uk which is a good chain in in the uk and they ship without at at good prices in the us without shipping so amazon. Okay i like it all right. We got more including the changelog coming up. 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And then google bought grand central band with just went along for the ride. And then google slowly expanded into meat and everything else and Yeah it was kind of like an eye opener. This one of the things i love about this industry is there. Are these people these companies. There's they're selling the shovels picks. You don't know you know you know about the gold miners. You don't know about the. The guys showed sold the pics but it's this zone shovels and picks keep the whole thing going. Yep you know. And that's perfect example. Jeff you ready to sing with me. Surely they were by by mr egede pie. He's going away in won't sick of by Agit pie will soon lose his job. He'll take giant oversized racist pieces. Coffee mug and Be going probably back to industry where he came from right Lawyer for larry never really left the Nice piece of advice about this now. This won't happen till january twentieth but almost certainly the party control of the presidency. We talked about this last week. gets a three two majority over the fcc and the chairman's spot so with the biden win the fcc majority of become democratic in january Pie will no longer be the chairman and experts as likely to leave entirely blah blah blah. Not has not been great for net neutrality. Not been great for reading. Well neither as biden good with two thirty. I'm dreading some of biden's views on technology. You're right you're right we're just and who is biting surrounded with to help them out. Go go jeff yet is legitimate concern. For instance at elizabeth. Warren might get a seat at the table and commerce or something. I i doubt he'd take her out of the senate massachusetts has over. Yeah so that. Probably but still. She's certainly advising and we know she was very lovely. Advocating for the break-up a big tech I wonder though if the fcc will bring back net neutrality for instance your retirement should be chair of the fcc. Now i would do it. I would to tell me what to do or qualified. But you're too young. I'm competing with. Leo talked to fcc commissioners all the time. All the time. All the time i spent. I spent one day with Michael powell Oh that was original neutrality. dude that was fun and his blackberry. He's been a of time at his blackberry while we're walking around but that was fun but that was two thousand four. That was ages ago. You know after the fcc released their original net neutrality documents. It was christmas like christmas. eve or maybe it was the day after. Christmas is the twenty third. I at my family's house in houston and get a phone call and i'm like god i had seen this and i was like h you hate you. Fcc a in there were like please hold for. Tom wheeler and i was like what's happening wheeler called you. Wow wow to talk about. sec rules. Because when i was at giga. Oh i was like the most psychotic most psychotic broadband reporter in the face of the planet. That's why i asked you what i like meant but sadly i hadn't read the whole thing so i was like i was just pissed that i was like sitting here going guy. Uh tom wheeler ended up. Doing good tom wheeler is up being very good always. We were always kind of surprised by that but he did a good job. I was really proud is not the right word of the problem with the fcc chairman is. They often come from industry as both wheeler and pi did. Yeah and so you go well. How can i trust this guy. You worked for verizon comcast that they also have the knowledge but they do have stacey has never worked for any rela com. That's perfect that's fine. You can arm's length and buddy stay away stiff arm your husband stay away from me. And then somebody in the chatroom set in and they're absolutely right stacy's less emotional than leo so she gets the job. So they're good friends with susan. Tennis wasn't actually see commissioner And i'm delighted that my fcc occurred. After she left the commission they have had to recuse herself There are some people. Jessica rosenworcel commissioner four wheeler. Yeah they're good people In you know on commission but it seems like the chairman has a lot of carries a lot of weight really sits gender too large degree. You got to washington. Dc vote amongst themselves. So that is. I mean in up until the trump administration and i know you know we had pie and i can't remember not car car. Todd who's other guy. Maybe it shouldn't be the fcc chair. I no longer remember. That is one of the rules. You have to name all fifty dollars off five current commissioners. It's that's true. You probably do have to open that anyway but They actually do understand the rules for the most part try. I do actually believe that. They took their jobs very seriously. Pie was a little bit of wildcard houston leak stories very negatively to the really conservative press. He was a little bit more. Partisan which is weird for an agency that had been very it prided itself on being technically and data driven. They loved those words. But i don't think The new president will announce His chairman of zazi see but apparently he's expected to announce shortly after thanksgiving and just a couple of weeks many of his cabinet nominations. And there's some thinking according to cnn that He will announce chief of staff is released tomorrow with the former chief of staff As a vice president. I think right stay. Put the other Fcc jared today to chat. where's the twitch. It stacy's like where's the trick. You could just say as we'll talk which one she's asking. Okay did you. Put the whole list in there. Tom wheeler minion. Clyburn hausky yet ops is great. Yeah genyk hausky wheeler that called me. Sorry janikowski was cool. I talked we had him on twin. Dog dabo's yeah. It was cool. I did talk to wheeler just not at that. That's the wrong. Commissioner with extra stark is who i was thinking if i believe starts have told the story of my fcc know what was your fcc night was that all about. I don't think so. So at the time it was the fcc's largest fine for indecency to faulk show married to america for suggestive use of whip cream god and there were the fcc said there were one hundred fifty nine complete come so far so far from their cream right now was the worst that was that was last in america was cranston seem only so i filed the foia. I call and i asked them. They said they had one hundred fifty nine complaints from all america which i thought was ridiculously small. Yeah they admitted that there were see season. There's actually like eighty nine on the admitted that there were twenty three is unique letters and i looked at all the letters and all but two of them were the exact same letter sent by the parents. Television council. only three people in all of america had bothered to complain about this show. That was the worst thing that had ever been on television at the fcc. Wow and since then tracks unbelievable because of that they now put all complaints up on lot. Yeah you hear the reason they do that. The reason i love reading those complaints. Yeah i also by other proud moment. Life in washington dc. I'm just bragging here relative. That was when i got to test the fcc and say baba buoy. Oh you did that. So howard would like you used it as a bumper on how i bet they did. Yeah what was the reaction of the fcc. When you said that they didn't know did they know what you. We were warned. This jerk was going to do something as stern panfan. Oh they knew it okay. Don't you dare say probably on this. Show what this is or why it matters. It doesn't what is this. What you speak That's the nickname for gardell body. The executive producer of the howard stern show and people. It's it's a joke because he did something stupid and they gave him the nickname. I'll i'll spare you the story so now When people want to disturb shows they say the bobby buoy and now on golf tournaments with somebody shot a good shot. Somebody in the crowd can will certainly be short yell and they play it on the show and dissolves the Yeah somebody wants. Call my radio show and did that. The most famous one Which really i think is the one that will history was during the oj. Simpson slow speed chase in the. He's in the white bronco and everybody's watching on tv and the helicopters and stuff. I have a recording of it. I won't play it though but and somebody calls. I think it was tom. Brokaw it was it calls. Nbc or one of the it was a it was one of his standard fake fake phone. Callers names larry And calls in. And says i see o. J. and and oh. I know it was peter jennings. He's going to. You're on the euro city. I'm sitting in my car. And i see o. J. and he is unhappy and goes on for a while. And peter jennings is this is on. Abc on live tv going. Oh and very seriously and then And the guy at the end says baba bowie to you. All and then peter jennings is baffled as one would be an goes Okay and he goes. And then al michaels breaks in. Michael says peter. Peter that is the catch word of well known radio personality howard. Stern was a prank call. Have the recording. I'll play it for you so day. It is hilarious. So that's really the most famous use of bobby visit. yeah and when somebody wants to call the radio show. And i don't know what they thought like. I would be all upset. Yeah i was like oh. That's nice good for you. buy like what. Oh yeah we get hit the back button five times where we were where were we. Fcc ftc not fcc ftc has now settled with zoom actually vice versa zoom settled with the fcc the fcc was mad as many of us had been because for years zoom had claimed end to end encryption of all calls. I didn't know. Zoom was years old. I know even as early as when the pandemic started zoom said video calls particularly end encryption. It was not zoom. Had the keys that is not the definition of end to end. Encryption talking about tabby. Yeah the government wants the keys but In this case the ftc's said zoom maintain the cryptographic keys allows zoom to access the content of customer meetings and security zoom meetings apart with a lower level of encryption than promised as zoom Said yep you got us they That was when they started apparently started their ninety day. turnaround to to encrypt everything and They paid some fee. I can't remember it was like i was fifteen million. Something like that As a penalty but as a settlement. But the funny part is now that cove is over because the election's over and we democrats can pull back on our hoax. We were kidding all okay. You're dead people come on I should've that's bad taste but apparently the news that visor might have a vaccine by the way. This was a pfizer press release. The advisor might have a vaccine is ninety percent effective. Send soom shares down. Fourteen percent. netflix shares down Three and a half to five point forced all of the you know. Stay at home. Stocks tumbled stupid. Because of the good news that there might be a vaccine. That's just silly. No that's so the market just big like oh okay we'll They came back up as the day went to they. Come back okay. Yeah yeah yeah well. They were done a little bit onto But a it's folks we got at least a year and a half if not two years ahead of us be. that's wrong. habits have changed all thank goodness. So there's a vaccine won't save us for a while right so netflix's stock soom stock. Were fine tell donna. By a minus aid reset rate freezer stock. Oh yeah yeah. It requires storage chain tracks at eighty below. Which is going to be challenging. But so do all of those Recombinant dna there aren a the vaccines so they require refer at least dry ice refrigeration. That's going gonna make it a challenge. But i realized maybe they're gonna use the same containers that bring my cacho a pepe from italy. They will frozen frozen no vaccine controversy. Peppy shortage coming. Save law difficult stock. Quake quake tim burners lease interrupt. Startup has released. Its first product. A privacy platform for enterprises called did You know i. We had bruce schneier. Who's working on this on a show last month and it's really intriguing. The whole idea. Remember you're talking about that blob. Stays the idea that your information should be stored in a blob that you control. It's kind of what this is all about The solid privacy platform allows large organizations and governments to build applications that put users in control of their data. Tim burners lee of course invented the world wide web and ever since he's been paying penance he said. Hey hey no we. He's a great guy. A wonderful amazing fellow But he has always believed the web should be free and open but he's been a little disturbed lately that these companies are making money using our data so he created interrupt i n r u p t three years ago And now with solid they have an open source project that i will see. You can use plain this boss now. It's a server that you it's it's like a server that enterprise can sit up and you put people's data onto it in you can access it. And they can. I think yes very much like the blogs. Although they call a pile they call them personal online data stores or pods The enterprise version consists of the solid server which manages the pods. Developers can build applications using an st k. That let you access these these blobs these. These data blobs And then you can but you could you maintain control of it is. It's an interesting we'll see. There are certainly some organizations For instance the national health service in the uk is building an application for patients Who can you solid to control their health data so the patient permission to the doctor that so that's good. That's the app to talk to it to request information and wait for permission. So this is the quote from Interrupt patients will be able to doctors family or at home caregivers to read certain data from their solid pods and add caretaking notes or observations. That doctors can then read. So it's a central store with your personal stuff but you control it you you keep keep control over it. Which is i think of a good idea. So basically germans a big database that you manually take care of tables. And i know you don't have to take care of. That does not sound fun. Yeah i was like who who who who's going to control this data you know. He keeps saying that people have control over this information. Like who exactly is it snows. So i'm going to guess here but the this is an open source project. So i'm the national service. I'm building a health. App is in my interest. I want to protect patients. Privacy's so i use the solid database within it and this pods concept within it patients when patient information is stored it's not stored in a sequel server database or an amazon bucket or anything it's stored inside a pod which is designed to be tightly controlled and secure and the pot has interactive has an api or some permission permissions framework so that the physician put stuff in there. The caretaker put stuff in there every put stuff in there and then as the as the user as the owner of the patient data i will be. They will request of me permission to access that data. So i don't control it in my pocket that was that was actually stacey's original blob idea but then this is probably i would guess one of the issues is. You've gotta tell providers you need to use the solid you know interface in your code. It's developers writing people will enterprises will use it and will run it and keep the because they don't wanna deal with storing your data. They want to outsource that to this company. Basically i don't think it works. I don't. I'm unclear so i don't know it may be like i have Light built into my app or my sequel built in my app instead of that. I have solid built into my app. And that's the data store with all of these controls i. It's not clear to pass privacy as service. It's not clear to me that there's a third party starring in okay. I in -rupt people were going to store it. I don't think so. it's an open source. Oh okay so. No one's no one's doing that. Because i don't think a lot of like the. Nhs would totally build and maintain the server for customers using like their stuff. But then what you have is useless. Because it's your data in lots of your data may be stored so it's all sorts of places. Yeah everywhere you want that centralized thing. Yeah lobs blah. I'm not clear. Actually that's a really And the article. I'm reading a tech crunch. Does not make that clear. Because it's open source. I would imagine. I can come a long visor and i can come along and say i want to buy your health data. And here's the price. And i can say good visor here ticket. Here's right baby right. Yeah so. I don't know so. That's the other issue is so all right so then i say to somebody you can have the data. Do they have the data productivity the data for us. But how do you enforce whether they cambridge analytica whether they use that once or now have other uses of it okay. So you're sort of right. Stacey though i'm looking at on the solid project dot org site get a pot and a webbed. Id you will pick a pod provider that will be hosting your pod as of now. There's only two places interrupt in the solid community So but i guess the theory would be you. Would there would be a variety of providers or you can self hosts they say the way to get the. Most control of your data is to self host your pod. So you're right on this one end self hosting means your data physically stored on a hard drive. You hold at home and managed by software. You run your own machine. I doubt that will be the predominant way of doing it. But somebody who's sophisticated Enough to do that. I have a sinology nass. It's like civility or like What is the it's the media server that everyone flex play thank you so plex runs on my sinology. There might also be a solid object runs on my sinology where all my data is and then Maybe i have a key. That when i sign up with a health plan i say. Here's a solid key. Please store all my data there. I think that's an interesting thing. So you either go to a provider that does this Third party trusted third party. Or you could do it yourself. So it's in a way you know what it's like It's like last past. It's like a password manager Many password managers allow you to either. Use them to store your password right or you store it yourself and i think that's a very i. You know what tim burners lee. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna bet against it. Great soul disclosure is that. I'm an adviser to mr holder in a company that he's also an adviser and shareholder the just so you know minor. I seen it in ages. But the company yeah. They're they're still going right. Oh i thought you said you hadn't seen it in ages like the is the name tiktok. It's google gogo so there are and there are also. There's a on the assad project website. There is a showcase of solid apps for instance. No pot a simple note. Taking at the stores notes in your solid pod. I like this idea. It's essentially that blob. You're talking stacey. It's a secure enclave that you control that you put the things you want to keep private you either hosted yourself or use a third party and you have There are ways you can give people access to different parts of it. This is a great idea. So so the company that i'm involved in that incident analytics company provides marketers with data to help them understand how to make more effective commerce recommendations. But tim sir. Tim came in and he asked me to be involved as they thought there was a media opportunity here and the media company were people were too stupid understand the opportunity so i became pretty useless to them but but he talked early on years ago about how you can have trusted third party in media that would have data about the the consumer's use of this media and that media the consumer can have some say. Okay yes you can tell them all that. I like playing horseshoes. So give me lots of horseshoes. Sports data and the consumer with nba control of that the same with marketers. So he's been trying to build this personal data vault where you have market control over it for a long time interesting. You start with health because a released isn't a market there but there's a huge control issue there so if you can solve it for health you can probably sell them for a lot of very well. Here they've solved chess. This is called solid chess. You decentralized shoes no central servers required to runners set up a game. So you invite somebody you play somebody in the data stored in your pod. Crypt private chess. You don't it's a it's a boy proof of but you're storing at your hosting. It's very interesting. in crypto. you could use crypto to protected you would use your public. Private key crypto to keep others out of it I think this is very interesting. Now that i kind of understand a little bit better. I think it seems workable. I very interesting. I what may be a controversial view but crypto. What's that its adherence tend to be jerks. I'm an inherent. I'm edited here but not for currencies. I'm really excited about it for large scale. Authentication of automated devices excited to do. But it's like it's like larry. Bmw within realizing you don't like all the drivers because the way they drive. I have a bmw on do and she talked to strikes. And you're out stacey. I i have my husband we buy we buy all of our cars used in the bmw five series. Five three all right. It's blue it's cute. it's okay let me take a break And then we've got a guy we the change do the change. The changed you ready to the changelog play. Yeah the end of the law has changed liked him You probably saw some Buzzing noise on the net about google photos storage policy changing. I only have two years left. Oh no starting. In june twenty twenty one any new photos and videos you upload will count towards your storage storage the either the free fifteen gigs. It comes with your google account or any additional storage. You purchased as google one member. I think i have tell me. Tell me my my g suite guy can use for my yeah. I don't know no different terabyte which we hear. Google account storage is shared across a g. Mail google drive and photos If you have on line existing high quality photos videos people who bought pixel phones for instance until recently convinced you. It was one of the benefits of buying the phone. Store your phone. yeah You i have a lot of original quality photos Any photos you've uploaded before. June will not count towards your fifteen gigs of free storage. So those are free and exempt from the storage limit. Apparently forever you can verify your backup quality anytime in the photos that by going to the backup and sinking settings after you backup your photos and videos original quality these changes do not or if you have these changes. Do not affect you because You've always this has always been the the status for original photos. Right pixel one through five mortar effect. You nothing you need to do today. It's just that google photos which used to have unlimited free storage right you'll longer has unlimited free storage. It s sensible people knew that was common eventually right again. I mean way back. I mean i remember when g. mail launch. They were like free forever. Lola we're like well great. we'll use it right. Yeah i mean that was the come on in a lot of us of. I have sixty thousand photos google photos so it's not free anymore. Amazon still offers free unlimited original storage. If you're a prime member There are a lot of photo. Printing sites like a shudder fly. That i think you have unlimited storage there right. Because they want you to print and also flicker has an unlimited appropriate. Play for the pain right but that's not expensive. It's not it's I can't remember by three years at a time. Because i like flicker pro- Yeah so the. I mean this. Is i guess. Upsetting to people who have been putting everything google photos. I think you know you said something interesting guests. You really see could have seen this coming because remember google had google four. One one where you would call and you. It was there information number. And i thought that was a great free service is good. It was killed it because we got enough data. Thank you and. I think that's probably what's happening with photos away. Yeah well yet leo yet. There's another story somewhere in there. That says google now wants you to label your photos to help their learning sets so that would tell me they don't have enough data realize their data not good enough. That's bad because i'm it's free. I guess it's not unreasonable Google new optional fetal of fetal knew talk law wondering what the halo thinks that a new optional feature in google photos and android Says hey tag this. What is that image Gosh that seems like a lot of work. It doesn't it and and and that was the whole point again of who will photos was that it knows. It's a pug right tap on the search button in the app menu. Scroll down you'll see an option to help improve google photos when you click on it. You'll be presented with four tasks describe your printing preferences your preferred colleges to identify which photos belong to which holiday events and to identify the contents photos. Do you work for you. Google pay do you get reward. Yeah that's the thing. They're doing the work but it they're not gonna turn down any additional help so right. That's all they're doing. I'm sure is still working hard at all of the tagging and being able to figure out facial recognition stuff pretty. Well without that help right. It's done very well right. I think good. Although you know the google captures bother bother you. You know where they say. Where are the traffic lights so annoyed. I'm so for everything nowadays. And don't you know when you're doing that. You're just training google for its self driving vehicle at our efforts right given them that because we have to bugs the hell out of me but knowing i feel like it's it's okay because what you get is worth it. I mean like the knowledge you get is pretty cool. But that's just me. Yeah yeah but every single time. A i don't get a lot of captures. Maybe that's wait you just you don't go to new places i guess or something change. Google has been working on adding Pay features in. Its google photos again for google one members. They're just trying to make google one more and more valuable. Xda developers spotted this in an ap k. Tear down version four point four five in version. Five point one eight There's more evidence new prompts that will alert the user of the premium editing features and urge them to get a google one membership not sure what features maybe color pop is one. That's locked buying the paywall. One when commodore suggested preprocessing Suggestions like Saying This dog food. No can't be what it is their dog. Fooding it that's probably Diet is dynamic. I want all my pictures to look like dog food. Can you do that for who Dynamic hdr vivid. these are all filters. I guess Maybe new filters like afterglow Ember luminous radiant and stormy will be behind a paywall. I smell a cfo. Yeah you think. It's all ruth rats fault. I solid like photos things once. What's is making for us i. There's no as on what the hell. Yeah hey you probably smelled the shareholders to right just doing the bidding of the shareholders. Well i'm not happy. She's chief financial officer your shareholder and google. I think we i said this before. I'm a small stake in google. That is worse. I feel like every show. You should introduce him like that. Personally and google share. Tv guide critic at google shareholder. Sounds so grand. Tell okay stacey let me ask. Journalism professor and the journalism practitioner. So i My retirement funds are invested in these different mutual. Because you don't control the mutual funds so for instance one of us technology find which is hundreds of technology stocks. Google and microsoft and apple are in there. But i don't control what percentage of it or anything i buy the fund right. Yep right so that's okay. I don't have to disclose. Because i couldn't answer fine so every publication and i've worked for many and they have been all above board. You can do. Etf super duper mutual funds. As long as you're not picking and benefiting from individuals stock on the other option is to create a blind trust situation so lake for a while. My husband did it all. And i had no idea. What for instance I think lisa. I want to know what they are. Released has individual stocks and My wife and but that's not. I'm not trying to influence her portfolio and i don't know what their portfolio contains particularly. But i would say if you own individual stocks you need to disclose that or is it on the website is part of your disclosure. But i wouldn't have it on air otherwise. Yeah well he said it. I say everyone's relevant because well. It's this weekend google. why not. It's what was more relevant is when when when we talk about facebook issues and i raised money for pretty good about disclosing that disclosed before. It's not like millions of dollars right. Is it a little. Oh well never mind. I think you should disclose it every time from work and you should by me you tiny booth for your bathtub. Yeah i don't for that reason. I've never bought individual stocks. But that also because i feel like i don't know what the hell i'm doing if i buy an individual stock i'm gonna be burned anyway. I had i had the before. I joined the show right. No you did. You know it's there's there are some stories associated with this. We had a guy wonderful guy. Scott born who is a regular mac break weekly and i said he had a fairly hellish hefty holding an apple and i he says i told him he had a cell he did and he never let me forget it. Because it's gone up like eight hundred times the bird. The bird scott's great and scott is an unabashed apple fan. So regardless i don't you know nobody expects him to say bad things about apple anyway so anyway i guess i feel like i'm not happy. Aunt ruth rooted this so their penny pinching goo. Google should not be a penny pitching company. Did you know scott born recently tweeted within the last half hour those asking yes. I'm tempted by new apple. Macs but for once my life. I'm going to be smart. I'm not going to be a new unproven. I remember waiting on a street corner outside. The apple store in san francisco is scott because he had a tower taller than him of new macintosh computers. And i was kind of like saying all right. I'll protect y'all protect you. That was the day they were released. So this is definitely showing some unusual restraint restraint. On the part of mr byrne i have on the other hand before the announcement was over had purchased macbook pro team. I know this is an apple. I know we're in the changelog. But what's your quick review chance to. Well i don't have it yet. But i don't know what they did. How are you happy about. Yeah ok huge Potentially this could be a revolution desktop computing. Be it's the first time in a long time. We've had one company make the entire stack the software the hardware chips everything in pricing. They'd actually dropped the price of some of the products the other products state at the same price but potentially with increased significantly increased battery life and performance so but it remains to be seen. That's apple saying it. We'll see right and the first reviews will come out probably next week Roundabout this time and the first Hardware arrive a week from friday. How how is it a desktop revolution. What does it. What does the partly because of that apple is making their own. They're saying goodbye to intel and making their own processors and there is an absolute synergy. I think to one company making the entire hardware stack hardware and software stack because everything could be tuned. You know what big sur needs you know. What the applications running on your system need you know what they do not need of buying off the shelf processors from another company. That's making a generalized. You're buying you're designing building and making chips that are specifically for your particular use case that i think has a lot of potential there. Also this is this hardware platform is very forward-looking. They're doing Things until does not apparently cannot do including a five nanometer process unified. Memory architecture There they they have one system on a chip that has everything including the d. Ram is on that one chip Which means that. The dean ram is faster than any outboard commercial room on graded video. Kit can't be looked at the same right. Yeah well we talked about that because people are saying well what about. I want an nvidia card. Well we have to see but it's potentially faster than what invidia can do even though shared memory it. It's just you can't compare the two because it's such a different architecture making. There's a lot of potential i. It's going to be very interesting. I would not if if you don't have a dog in this. I wouldn't even scott born. I wouldn't run out and get the first one. I would wait and see what that because they're gonna be issues. That could be compatibility issues because it's not intel and all the software up to now has been written for intel so there may be issues there. Although apple's very good at that they have a lot of experience with that kind of transition this their third time changing chip platforms but also They'll be issues that you know. We don't know what the performance will look like or if they'll be show stoppers you know if it'll get hot or we don't know any of that stuff and we won't until we get in our hands so there are unknowns however on the face of it. It looks very very positive. Sorry stacy i just like the show. I think stacy. She's only chips chips. I'm here for that. Yeah i would if you're if you're interested because the problem is It's they don't give. They never even mentioned clock speeds at all no zero so they need a lot of graphs with literally no numbers on the axes. So what am i looking at here but There was a very good piece in a non tech kind of an unusual piece in a non tech because based on very little information they were able to do a lot of sleuthing including they took a silkscreen of the chip. And we're able to figure out what all the pieces were. Wow one of the things going to be very interesting stacey. I'd be curious what you think about this. We were talking about this on windows weekly. There's a sixteen core. Neural engine on this chip. So you've got eight you got eight. Gp's course you've got four high performance cpu's for high efficiency used for total of eight but In addition to all of that and notice the rams right here on the on the chip on that you have a sixteen core neural engine. A machine learning engine built in. This is the kind of thing you get on phones. but apple's putting in desktops. I wonder who that's four. So the yeah you can probably with. Yeah it was like there's tons of stuff that you're gonna wanna do locally on your stuff that you want to do locally on your computer And it could be. Yeah i don i like. I don't know. Could you the fact that apple devote such a significant portion of. I mean they had a lot of transistors i think. What was it sixteen billion or eighteen billion transistors on this thing which is mind boggling and this is this is different from the bionic processor on the phones maybe they just stuck it in there just to see what people would do with it. Oh what about these things running Vr or right like a headset. Well what's also interesting so this is an interesting point to these chips. There dubbed m. One are distinct from the iphone chips. We thought maybe they'll take the iphone eight fourteen in the new eight fourteen at chip and do something similar. It's clearly based on that platform but it's different and so it's not that they said well. We got these chips for just can put it in the desktop. They've definitely done other things. That are specific to desktop. So they have the capability of saying. We're going to do for vr. And we're going to do but they wouldn't. They're not designing a general chip. That's the whole point is. These chips are tuned to the use case. It very precisely so. I don't think they put in a sixteen core neural engine unless they see a use case in desktop computing and. It's i mean. If you're not a researcher fusing microsoft office and chrome. Do you need neural engineer. I don't know maybe you do not yet not yet. So maybe they're saying well. Yeah because how long do you keep a mac or how tall the average three or four years. Yeah so yeah i would. I would say three to four years. We could be looking at needing some sort of i. I'm so now sucked into like not world. I'm like of course you need edge processing. But yeah i don't know so at. Does this. wet your whistle in terms of graphics and photos and stuff like that does it does it does it. Do you see possibilities for all of this. Yes oh really because your windows guy. It's it's why i'm asking. Yeah it was exciting for me first off because of the pricing. I've always been interested in the mac operating system. But i could never justify the cost. You know if. I want if i had three grand spin i can get x. Amount of hardware specs with that three grand on the window side versus something a lot less on the mac side so i've always wondered stuck around on the windows side of things but they obviously changed that and then they've already gotten adobe linked in with this in support for light room photoshop. Right our the out the box. So yeah sonya. So the author of this non article andrei From asana who spends a lot of time with processors. He's kind of a processor nerd Has this to say at the end. Apps apple is absolutely leading the pack in terms of performance and power efficiency based on testing the chips in the phone. And the tablet. The design was more than able to compete and beat integrated graphics. Designs apple claims. The m one to be the fastest. Cpu in the world given our data on the fourteen in the iphone beating all of intel's designs and just falling short of md. Newest zen three chips. A hair clocked firestorm. That's the pep performance chip above three gigahertz the fifty percent larger l. to cash and an unleashed td total power consumption. We can certainly believe apple and the am one to be able to achieve that claim the fastest. Cpu in the world. This moment is brewing brewing for years now in the new apple. Silicon is both shocking but also very much expected in the coming weeks will be trying to get our hands in the new hardware and verify. Apple's claim intel has stagnated itself out of the market and has lost a major customer today. Amd has shown lots of progress lately. However it'll be incredibly hard to catch up to apple's power efficiency. That's because the x eighty six is inherently much less much less officiant if apple's performance trajectory continues at this pace the x eighty six performance. Crown might never be regained. So i mean i've been calling for the end of well at the end of but the what is it when you stop being the supremacy so the relegation of x eighty six to where it belongs his. Now's terrible well. it's just it's not efficient and we're everything needs to be battery powered forever. Why would you you and we have so much. Availability like so much capability to design custom processors and like chip designer. Yeah everybody's doing it. I think it makes sense that they're doing it. And i don't know what else to say about this. The there's some other interesting things for instance. It's it's a highly parallel chip off huge increase over what intel. Amd are doing and parallelism. So that's also very interesting. In that you know. The the size of the pipelines here is remarkable so there that's the point is they're they're doing things that make it very difficult to do. Oh well that's a three gigahertz chip. That's the three. It has nothing to do with clock speed. And i think that they'll be the same complaint about ram because they're all maxed out right now sixteen gigs of ram. Yeah but i don't know if you can judge it because even matter. Yeah how how they're using ram is different. Iphones have never had much ram so. I think we just have to wait till they come out and say well. Let's let's you know some programs. let's do some. it's also say that regarding to the dobie part of it What they were showing was adobe room not light room classic in right with it. Used adobe suite not lightroom. Classic is a beast pig are trying to have Have resources to run it. You know so. I'm still waiting to see what's going to happen with that In from amd side of things. I'm amd fan. I've never really bought into intel side of things in. Amd has been rather exciting for content creators in how they work with the likes of light room and premiere pro where you don't necessarily have to offload into gpu. Acceleration and the chips are handling quite a bit of the task already. But i think stacy's point is what really well taken which is that x eighty six should have ended up end of life a decade ago. You tell you thought it was going to and and so. I think that it's high time to see if we are six. Eighty six was something better. Well they tried. I mean remember. Do you remember. I mean they thousand. An a him was actually. That was Amd wasn't that. I was until. I was so damn hot that it could work. Yeah so. I bought a fast. Theoretically i think the fastest one the macbook pro sixteen a thirteen rather so We'll see i will theoretically. Yeah it's and you know this is the m one you know they'll be they'll be many many many generations after this So it's going to be. I think it's i think it's high time we got rid of x eighty. Six only apple could do this at microsoft. Can't leave x eighty six behind So it's going to be until our md on windows for a long time. They they their arm. Attempts have just been horribly slow. I don't count a win monopoly for right right. Youtube is down for everybody right now. I just oh yeah. I don't know what's going on but Oh i know back. No it's back. Is it like their watch. Watching all of able. Are you able to watch them. Let me see. I don't know I can't see how about youtube dot com slash twit. I think yeah so so the youtube site is the video streaming is down so means. That's a different part of the overall. Sierra livestream yeah Same problem with your music hold on. So what's the what's the is there. There must be a google status page. Let me see. Is that part of the changelog. If youtube is down that's part of the change Yeah look I see a bunch of red exclamation marks next to google compute engine. Even music's music is down to music right rests on the youtube so service disruption coming from the compute engine so that would mean much more than youtube that would mean Anybody running on. Google compute might be having problems. I don't know snapchat snapchat small. that's not it. This is c. P. customers not related to That's just that in. That looks like it's fix too by the way. So yeah google not reporting status problem right. Now it's available that there was a problem with compute. All right keep an eye on it. Is it overall internet. Lost stolen change. Well that was the change. Google going to factor Page speed and experience into search results starting in may so you better get your page load and fast and the experience part is interesting to the. How do they measure in their there. Some the story. Yeah so Core web vitals loading interactivity visual stability. Will it be mobile. Friendly save browsing friendly. Https that's something. Google has been no intrusive interstitial 's can finally get the oil intrusive interstitial when you drop i. I'm like he's like it works. I'm like everybody. Does it stacey. It's not your needed one less intrusive than others. It's a truce of less so than others. I don't have any annoying ads. Though i just have tiny banners on the sides so if you can sit through that interstitial nothing else is the problem with it. Is you think you're fine. You're think your home free then. Suddenly i know So jodie just started. Oh good so it's no. It's not mom still spinning on their livestream. I started listening to that. Could is nick good. Yeah pretty old style stuff. Yeah it's reply. Stop johnny. I love you stop. Sorry yeah it's very easy the beginning Let's see what else is going on in the world of google. Google hides free movies. There's forty classic movies hidden in maps. But sorry you have to be in the uk. It's a virtual scavenger hunt because nobody's using maps these days because nobody's going anywhere. It's it's part of their. Google pixel presents mobile cinema campaign along. In collaboration with the british film institute. Sky falls shaun of the dead. The phantom thread good movie. Wallace and gromit curse of the where rabbit wednesday gromit fans will be able to search a map of the uk defined key locations after following clues with the film's then being made available to watch from anywhere. That's pretty cool. You have to. Oh wait a minute. Hold your horses. Participants will have to ensure that mobile device connects to a five gene. Then join hand rises. Every exactly paul knicks. Well played well played. Youtube premium members are being offered. I'm excited i haven't seen that the premier edition of the stadia which i have not seen that yet and i'm youtube premium number. But i've not seen any notification about stadium. Not here's a link to see if you're eligible simply click this link and yes. I am free state controller free. This is funny. Because i signed up for this and then i canceled before i got it because i thought a us that it's a ninety nine dollars value yours for free if you are a youtube premium member. I can get my stadia gift right now. There's a lincoln the articles. Yeah yeah looking at now. Yeah yes get your gift. But i thought i was supposed to get some sort of email notification. I hadn't seen a thing. I'd take him a free gift now. Okay apparently now. I have to choose a stadia avatar. These are hideous. Which one should i choose. Kids cupcake be cupcake. Or what the dinosaur. Because i am All right now i next. Your stadium is public. I'm gonna say chief twit. Don't use your real name okay. That's how i will appear to other players. Chief twit the dinosaurs and you also have to buy stadia pro. No oh you just one claim your free stadium Addition to sign up for stadia pow son of a gun three gets redemption email for redeem in store for free for the hell with us studio google. How much is how much is it. Ten bucks a month not paying for games. Nope me neither. I've got animal crossing new horizons. That's all i need. Google has added status updates to the pixels personal safety at. Yeah ten bucks a month so it was nice. they're going to give me a free joystick. A free talk. Just give me the lollipop out of your mouth kid. Yeah you brat. Google so this personal safety app. Which do use zimmer use it. it's nice you can now send out. status page in. Which you would say. I'm doing okay. That would be i. Guess for if there's a in your neighborhood or some yup. I thought they killed that. They just they just kill the thing as book did it. Yeah i like that from. Google also had a thing where you can find your long lost friends in the storm but it took. We did stop that. I think so. I can't remember all that stuff. You all that stuff you used to do that. And we're all in it together and now it's the hell with google. Maps is getting a trips tab. That shows your this is sad. This is this is. This is cruel your last vacations before covid nineteen. Isn't that cruel. I yes. I think it's kind of nice that they like whenever i get my little thing. That's like hey here's where you've been this month. It lets you by the way probably have been a lot of places. You're lockdown area and thank you remember when you used to go places anywhere in the. Us that is not locked down right now. Well you know serves the rest of the world so but most places i would imagine. There are plenty of places that do not have the we are. We're special in a way that you're not texas florida. Oh yeah yeah. We're very purple right now. Yup unfortunately unfortunately here in sonoma's county I think unless somebody has something else. That's the google change law. I did want to mention to mr jarvis though about maps how he says anybody even using maps. I i still use maps for a couple of things for just keeping track of the heart heads if they say. Hey we need to go solid so so telemark tournaments on so i can see you and then also depending on what i'm watching on television opened up maps just to look at it as a reference for one. I'm watching on television. It just your voice thing is making you sound curious though. I am curious. Aunt that's a reference but they're too young their wage. Yeah see the But i used to always turn on on Ways in the car and now in the rare moments. When i go somewhere i don't bother. I know where. I only go places exactly We had an advertiser about a decade ago. I was a big fan of it. Everybody was really into the sling box. You remember that. I remember listening to. Ti one of their chip engineers. Explain the new chip inside this league. Box low book on it was like what twelve or thirteen years ago news. Yeah i was really sad actually. It wasn't sad. This makes sense Monday they stopped selling in a long time ago. I think monday digital. They're going to turn off the sling box servers. So they'll continue to operate for a couple more years but after that the hardware won't work it needs. I realize this because it feels like you're just connecting to your home entertainment system from the road. That's what people used it for. But i guess for net reversal. You have to go through their servers and they didn't want to keep running those servers. The sling player doesn't work is thirty two bits so it doesn't work on modern moco s Dish said we had to make room for new innovative products so we continue to serve our customers the best possible way. I'm not mad about this. No had a long run and they stopped selling the hardware years ago. Yeah so that's why people had a. I had a good run by other ways to do it. I would say light more options for. Let me think about that. Plex would be the best replacement right. I would say plex server in your house and Yeah this is not related to sling tv by the way which is probably another. Very good option is subscribed to youtube. Tv or sling tv. And you get your locals you get a dvr. Yeah what do you need this for anymore. Yeah yeah this is for someone who bought it and is still running it because it worked right there are plenty of people out there world who are not like us who are like. I don't want to think about this gadget ever again. It works. well you're going to be thinking about it again in two years when it stops working so this i think is a trend. We're going to see a lot more of The estimate is about sixty percent. Thanks to quarantine about sixty percent of small businesses will fold in the year. Twenty twenty a huge number a lot of them restaurants and because the only way most people are eating out. These days is take out or delivery chipotle is opening its digital. Only restaurant doesn't have a dining room doesn't have that line for ordering it's just for takeout and delivery. It's a ghost kitchen isn't it goes kitchen. It is okay and there. There are a lot of ghosts. Kitchens popping up a lot of restaurants Turning into ghost kitchens and a lot of new people starting ghost kitchens for you know door dash and grubhub and all the other delivery services you finally got dash been using it not yet because we like literally just got it last week and i haven't ordered takeout yet daughter's going to tell you that mean to the restaurant you shouldn't use it. It's actually my brother. Actually does dash in cova does not mean to the restaurant. Yeah well you can order in takeout. It go pick it up. Yes but there's like surfer restaurant is it. They get more money. If you don't use cash we have. They paid for Oh yeah okay. So my vision. This poli was that you would drive along and say i'll take a burrito the drive to the next stop say chicken then you drive to the next on the veggies rather next off. Say yes drive on. I thought it was gonna you know. Someday we're gonna have that vaccine. We're gonna be able to go. To chipotle is again. Life will be good yeah. I'm sad but the app. I tried to order from it in my favorite burrito. I can't eat the veggies. Because i'm allergic to bell peppers but now they're veggie with guacamole. You have to get the veggies to get the guacamole and not paid to twenty five extra. So i'm sad. I know this is just said terrible thing go by even a first world problem. It's like it's a first word karen and problem. It is like holtz. Erin jane when you have to pay extra for the avocado because it's got it comes with the peppers and you can't eat peppers. Don't you hate it when that happens. I hate it when that happens. That i didn't i'm sad though l. did anybody. I'm teasing you. People who make my does no. Of course it's it's wrong and we should all petition. Let's boy cut japodlay every podcast. They advertise on. I want you to stop listening to them now. Oh i don't know they don't advertise ours. That's all i care about. I'm sorry stacey. I'm not you're not a first world karen you're wonderful person. I apologize. I was just noting that that bothered me. You could say you could say something like okay. joe rogan. You could say that. Go ahead i would. Never i would never invoked championship soilders. According to the american metal coolest men medical association. No it's not the it's not the american medical association. It's the american marketing association not affiliated with the ama. Spoilers do not harm box office revenue. This is actually research published in the journal of marketing that esteemed journal researchers from western university and the university of how ston examined whether spoiler movie reviews. Harm the box office. Do spoilers release spoil using topic modeling to measure. The effect of spoiler reviews on box office revenue. They collected daily box office. Revenues for movies between two thousand thirteen and twenty seventeen than they were then matched with their respected review. Respective reviews connector from the imdb. They measured the spoiler intensity the degree of plot uncertainty the amount. It was resolved by reading spoilers and movie reviews. The study results indicate spoiler intensity has a positive and significant relationship with bottles and spoil avenue. I can't believe that was. Yeah i mean people will. We're in a society of people. Don't want to miss out on anything. So if a movie is being talked about so much where even spoilers get leaked seems like society is like i kinda see it anyway. I still gotta see casale talking about it you know. So why would the revenues change. And here's the theory to do. You want to know how it turns out so you can talk about it even before you've seen it. Oh i don't even wanna talk about it is it. Is it a cheater release. I do that with horror movies. So like when i was watching especially like tv shows when things get a little too intense. I don't understand what's about to happen do it is like a stress. Bow our pressure valve release. Here's a question for memory in our chat room. I think is good. Why do they call it a box office. They sell boxes. Jeff you're not critic that's a really. I never thought about that because the office the you bought it from the thing that looks like a box box office originated in the bethan area. When affluent people would sit in private boxes to watch theatre. Box office boxes like leo unicycle. Boxes though i know theater either way that was a google snippet and did not click through to insurance information comes through really good. Piss piece of information though. Because it's all you need it. it's fine. The uncertainty reduction mechanism suggests a spoiler friendly platform review platform. Can help consumers make appropriate purchase decisions. We recommend that review platforms. Keep the warning labels on spoiler reviews because of the benefit of allowing consumers to self select into the exposure to spoilers gets surprise people with that's blitz. it's the same issue as snippets. A short snippet. Isn't it which which of course you know. Publishers want to say you've sold their soul for using is actually not as good a promotional item as longer snip. A whole story could be a better promotion. Our final story of the day. I'm gonna make it a good one The pope pope francis papa urges followers to pray that and robots always serve mankind. Let's just pray for that. Shall we all movie coming up to serve shined puck. I'm sorry you think padre was involved in this one. I think he might have a little baby. He was the adviser. Maybe it's one of the pope's monthly prayer intentions regular mrs shared on youtube. Maui no father. Roberts involved to help catholic steepen their daily prayer by focusing on particular topics or events in august. The pope urged a prayer for the maritime world in april freedom for addiction probably from addiction by our guest and in november it's ai and robots. The pope said hey. I was at the heart of the puck. Epochal is epochal pocketbook. Epica opoku poll epochal tackle. He had the apocalypse change. We are experiencing that robots had the power to change the world for the better but this would only be the case if these forces were harnessed correctly. Indeed the technological progress increases inequalities. It is not the true progress. Future events is should be oriented toward respecting. The accent is this what is happening here. I can't even get close to get to the content of the well just remember. Pope francis is not italian. Argentine from argentina. But he asked to speak italian. So that is the accent of an arjun native argentinian. Speaking italian in rome approve it today in english. Say it's exactly what he sounds like. Okay maybe now let us pause. And then i'm going to get your picks number and all that stuff. If i might are showed gay yes. It's time it's going to be chipotle. Our show today brought to you by ziprecruiter hiring so hard but you know what if you are one of the companies hiring right now. Bless you there. Are people out there. Dying to get a job with you. The in fact the perfect person is waiting to hear from you. So how do you get to them. You use ziprecruiter. That's the best way to reach out and find exactly the right person for your job opening. I'll tell you all the good reasons you wanna use ziprecruiter first of all when you post on ziprecruiter you're posting to more than one hundred job sites so you're casting a broad net. You're getting out there to everybody. Furthermore ziprecruiter's technology actually helps you find people with the right experience for your job. 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Stacey t be careful what you say. Because i buy all the stuff that you talk about. I got this halo ban. Now what stacey's thing is next. How stacy pops in every now and then with cocktail recommendations yes. This is a non alcoholic cocktail typing. So this is a non alcoholic partido. I've been trying to drink less and this is like super fancy doing an unboxing here for you but it is called kia and this is seen. It's super bitter. Why would you want a drink that stacey and bought them. I love bitter flavors like us. So tell you. This is a mix of lots and lots of herbs. I'm gonna tell you what some of them are. in case you know how they taste Gentian root that is the super bitter angouleme. There's white creep. They're big in here. Ginger orange pill peel. I can't say that word yuzu so fresh lemon balm elder flower and good so this is a real not flex this is not this is but this is the one i'm going to share after you that so go ahead. G. h. a. Kharman ghia. I was like like anchor gear. My daughter stepfather or father godfather kharman. Ghia was the volkswagen my generation. I wanted so oh yes beautiful so this is really delicious and it is i. Mix it with tonic. They have a bunch of little cocktail. Mock tails you can make. But it's it actually is one of the few like i have tried like fake. Jin's i've tried a couple fake whiskies. Even try to fake tequila. This is actually one of the few that really. Give me the the sense that i've had a really complex. So if you just put a little vodka and really so yeah if you mix this. I mean it's kind of like an amaro or something like that or actually more like a new. Yeah with so. If you don't like grenades you're not gonna like this because if you kind of groove on that super complicated. There's sweetness here but the bidders are real straw. The bitter taste is strong thirty dollars for the bottle. But you probably. It's probably highly concentrated right. No well you. I mix my in like two ounces of this and two and a half three tonic pseudoephedrine much. Yeah it only keeps though for like three weeks in the fridge. There's about twelve servings in here but then it's kombucha and then it's but yeah i i for the holidays especially if i don't know i can't drink every night anymore. This band yells at me when i drink So anyway throwing that out there for y'all is definitely one of the better known alcoholics and i've tried seed lip and all these others but this this is probably my favorite. I've tried so far and you can find it on. I think they're local to our area. Drink ghia dr. I n k. G. h. i. dot com Doesn't say where they're from. But i noticed that the phone number to text them as area code so i actually think from brooklyn brooklyn brooklyn thing. Doesn't it maybe they have local phone. Maybe they know where i am and they used to have local area coats. They also have this whole thing where they are. They they have. They talk about the herbs permitting relaxation. I don't know about that but It does it just. It's good it's funny that you should bring this up because during the election and post-election. I've been drinking heavily but like you. I don't really want to get drunk. So i've been through the same thing which is making adult drinks with herbal concoctions. And the ones. I i i would love to try both of these to see which one you like. Better this curious elixirs. This was something. Mary jo foley told me about so i have tried the curious lick shares. Which one did i try a. They have four different kinds so And it's not just like yours herbal. Not sweet they have And you could put booze in it. but You don't have to just put a little seltzer and little Perrier or something. And it's really good. I like this idea off to try the gifts. Yeah i mean. I think actually serve it in bars in california. But i'm not sure if you're going to go to a bar anytime soon. I joined the curious cocktail club. Which gives you a monthly variety. Pack of all the different four flavors. So yeah it's quite so. I you know i. It's it's funny because at the end of the day don't you want i mean i feel like maybe because my parents used to do this go home. Data get home and they'd have a drink. But i don't want to have a drink so one of these and it's very nice. It feels adult well. Nhl it's got a little something a little bit more a little less herbal a little bit more. Prove enjoy it because this is gonna have a nice Cabernet in a minute. I have so fused brain cells to spare that. I just try to stay sober these days. I didn't used to. I'm kind of with you stays because you don't sleep as well and you wake up. You don't feel as good i just i. Don't i need the comfort without the confusion that should be. I think it's shaken not slurred. is there. Oh that's even better not not slurred so ghia drink ghia. Dri in k. g. h. a. Dot com we have dueling elixirs have curious elixirs dot com. Jeff do you have a number for us. Yeah i do. It's digital story because the new york times just passed a milestone. It makes more money from his digital subscribers than its princip's a lot more money. The numbers are well. Actually it just kinda passed over a little bit so so online. So there are seven million online. Subscribers whom four point seven million paper news the rest paper crossword and historical. Yeah i do. I all all through. Yeah me too. I don't care for eight hundred. Thirty one thousand pay for print so thirty one thousand readers. provide one hundred forty five million dollars. The seven million digital subscribers provide one hundred fifty five million dollars a million more so eight hundred thousand versus seven million. That's the problem. That's why giving an apprentice hard. Meanwhile advertising sales has dropped thirty percent to seventy nine million which used to be the primary revenue source digital subscription surpassed advertising couple years ago but even online advertising has fallen so online advertising is now forty seven point eight of that seventy nine million so basically the only thing is growing here is digital subs there now. seven million. They have a goal of ten million digital subs by two thousand twenty five and they could make bottom line. They're making money i to make money. Yeah thirty three million quarter. So that's good that's good because it's an expensive operation but digital makes it. I think maybe a little more if you're interested in this stuff and pro speaking to maybe one person in the audience But mark thompson. Who just left as ceo did a great video presentation for the bodley and libraries seven at oxford seven hundredth anniversary. They did a celebration. And if you look that up you can find a really good talk about change and change management for mark thompson interesting. yeah That podcasts have contributed to the bottom line by the way. Yeah oh yeah and the wire cutter and they could buy you. They could buy you. Yeah they They bought cereal. Just just the podcast alone by itself. They spend thirty million dollars buying several startups including cereal. Productions yeah. I think they're their strategies. Been quite could also benefited from donald trump old which they say and they'd been and so. I talked to somebody at another paper. Where they're they're worried about. What's gonna happen to subs. Yeah bomb uncontroversial presidency and may maybe comment on controversial for new york times readers. It might be very controversial and upsetting for trump supporters. But they're not gonna subscribe to the new york times. The following the foibles of joe biden. 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They put the spectra display on their on the on the main page there because when you process and noise as a great tool all it it makes noise to stand out you can see exactly where it is and cleaning up and fix it. That's a lot of spectral display. I use it in adobe audition but it's nice to know that a lot of other apps used to good deal In the other one was it. I wasn't doing it later but a segue throw it near misses from my sunday television watching and it wasn't on youtube. It wasn't on netflix. It was actually on the amazon prime. This called dream of italy episode to pops up and they started talking about a specific dish made popular in rome. Troy pay cut. I was looking this. Mr jarvis in with my television watching. Oh man i wanna be an absolute perfect series. I think i've watched this five or six of those. Yeah so it's now fascinating. Oh i love italy italy. That's my dream vacation spot italy too. Well visit father robert when things. He's told us he said. Come see me before. I leave rome forever because i i don't know maybe he's planning for that. I don't know but he said i can get you into the catacombs. I can get you into parts of The vatican city that you can't get into a member of the public and i think that'd be pretty cool should do what we should do it twit trip so celebratory trip okay. But you can't do this when you get to say it. That was going to stay. Talion gesturing there scratching his beard and flip it us off at the same time. It's cool no. I think that would be. Wouldn't that be good valid. Love it they would have to be a few years. But a twit twit trip to italy on podcasting and a few years leo. That's why where'd you hear that you're like you're constantly like i'm too old for this that this is this is the end according to my halo band. That's not true. We come at the end of his week. Stacy by sunday it is official ron. Clean is The chief-of-staff president-elect that is now official. Which is good choice. He ran the ebola response under the obama. White house could probably be well well suited for this. No i don't you know. Oh stacey. don't take me seriously. I really worry about you. Man i know you do but no i really love what i'm doing and mostly love it because i get to talk to you guys. It's that's the fun of it. So if i if we don't do anymore podcasts. Expect me to call you once a week. Take keep you from your dinner and that kind of thing. It'll be like old times. Let's see how long this has been a three hour. Show so sh- i know we have nothing to talk about. That's funny happen. It was going to be a nice shirt. Show all right. I'm gonna let you go. Thank you so much. Stacey higginbotham her website including the Annoying interstitial drop down for the newsletter is long before you actually that is not annoying. You should fill it out and sign up. It's free. it's awesome great news. That change you got until june marriage. Okay she also does a great podcast with kevin. 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TWiT 797: There's Blubber All Over the Highway - Apple Silicon, Exploding Whale, TikTok

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TWiT 797: There's Blubber All Over the Highway - Apple Silicon, Exploding Whale, TikTok

"It's time for tweet this week. In tech great panel for you Rene ritchie's here from macrey quickly. Alex lindsay's back we're so glad to having docked rocked to and of course we're gonna talk about apple's announcement three new max based on their m one chip why they're not faster than ninety percent of intel laptops. We'll also take a look at The new xbox series x refrigerator. Eric schmidt becomes a citizen of cyprus. And they're canceling youtube rewind that plus the first video carson ever saw on the internet. I gotta warn you. It's disgusting all coming up next on. Twit this week could take comes to you from twits last past studios securing every access point in your company does not have to be a challenge. Last pass unifies access and authentication to make securing your employees simple and secure even when they're working remotely check out last past dot com slash twit to learn more podcasts. You love from people you trust. This is this is to it this week. 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But there's one place where hiring is simple fast and smart that place is ziprecruiter. Try ziprecruiter for free at ziprecruiter dot com slash twit ziprecruiter. The smartest way to hire. It's time for tweet this week. In tech The show where we talk about the week's tech news and you're gonna i think see if you look at the panel. There's a little Little leaning a little bias this particular episode effect. It looks a little bit like mac. Very quickly renee ritchie's year. He wasn't on macaraeg weekly this week. Because you were getting briefed by apple on the m one ship. Glad to have you renee. Did you learn many things. I spent the entire week deep diving. Okay and so. I'm ready for anything you can throw my way. It's just going to be a deep dive on. Am one but there's other techniques but we definitely expensive time on that. That's why you're here. So is doc rock the utilize all sensation aloha any apparently a fan of not the kansas city. Royals no not. This is a car club. We do Highfalutin jd Style cars japan domestic model by the way and did just as really executive luxury car so By friends they take like old japanese. Luxury cars like the japanese version of crown victoria jackson. They have beautiful japan so we're in tokyo. We saw a wedding and they have a beautiful kind of looks old like but maybe like one of those checker cabs big and it actually because the wedding headdresses so big you open the door and then they have a door on the top open up so that the bride can get out with her wedding address on. It's a beautiful car. I would love that car. I mean spacious just beautiful. I dunno japan. Taxis are awesome. And i wish they sold them regular cars. 'cause they're they're boxy in funny looking but they have so much space in automatic doors. It's incredible. oh yeah that's right. They've automatic doors because you have to learn if you're in japan not to close slam the door like you wouldn't new york city after you get out of the car because you'll break the delicate automated closing mechanism which is very embarrassing. Hey also with us. Alex linzie haven't seen you in a long longtime anchor to be here. Oh nine media. Founder of mac break and mac break weekly and He's been so busy with the various conferences. He's been putting together. You still do though the morning show right i do. I do my office hours Over over still two or three hours a day and and Over the course of every morning. I think about four to six hundred people Joining so So it's it's still pretty Pretty crazy but yeah you people can find it at just with the office hours. I tweet about it every once in a while. We've been kind of just relaxing into the group that we have. We've got about twenty four hundred people that are part of the group and then about eight hundred and discordant and then i said about four to six hundred every day to talk about media. Production and virtual production welcome. It's good to see you so as you with the with the three apple fans here there might be a little bit of a bias towards the m one chip but i want to explain why we want to talk about it. I mean this is a from the point of view of a technology. This is a very important week. This is the week apple. Said no more intel. We're going to design our own chips. Something we've been doing on the iphone and ipad for years but we're now going to put them on the macintosh. This is not something apple. Hasn't done before the in fact this is the third time apple's changed massive change of chip platforms But this is one. I think is going to be very interesting. And may in fact be challenging to the rest of the p. c. industry the x eighty six based industry and. That's why you guys are here because you're going to help us all understand what is happening with the m one processor apple announced three new macintosh computers all available day of which was nice People will start putting out their reviews renee. Can you tell me when the reviews will come out or is that also barcode. Yeah typically when you have an embargo. The embargoes embark can't even mention that. You have an embargo. So i'm gonna guess you don't you just just to raise your eyebrows. No you don't have to do anything. Don't even show him. I don't wanna put him on the spot. But i would guess it'll be probably wednesday. We'll start getting reviews of the new mac book air the new macbook pro thirteen and surprise the mac mini all based on this apple. M one chip. Can you tell us that. Got briefed by apple. I mean i i. it's such a virtual world world. leo. I don't. I did do a lot of research this week. The ton of time. There you go. that's what you can say. I've done a lot of research. Some of which may or may not have been by talking to people at apple all right. That's fine on apple. Always want to hear what apple has to say. But i also want to hear what you know the other side of all those different. Well i'll give you the negatives because there been a number of articles youtube videos or so forth saying whatever you do do not buy the new emlyn mcintosh and i'll give you some of the reasons. Then you guys can can say why or why not. That's accurate i. Of course it's the first generation chip from apple. We've never seen just say what it is before we talk about the negatives what is it for some people so the best way to think about it. If you're at all familiar with apple silicon is the m one is basically if you took the fourteen the chip. That's in the new ipad. air all the iphone. Twelve's you made the x version of that the one that you would expect to see in the next generation of ipad pro so instead of six. Cpa it has eight cpu's instead of four gpu it has seven or eight gpa. Us and then you add a little bit of max pacific stuff like hyper visor. acceleration emulation acceleration thunderbolt controllers. So a little. Bit of uniquely mac stuff. But that's i think the the the gist the quick gist of what these in a brand new chip. It's an evolution of the existing fourteen ships. A simple it's a fourteen generation. Ip and. i think that that that's a really important piece of information is is. The apple isn't creating a new chip. This is just a bigger faster version of what they're using the ipad so in the iphone and everything else so it's not and that's one of the things that this is an evolution. They've been building their own chips in reality for quite some time and so they just haven't moved it over to the mac os Until now so and that that gives them a lot of history in a lot of stability that we wouldn't expect. I think we think of this as a first generation chip but it's really a fourteenth already debunked point one of the multi point reaches funny as i've been telling people for at least since it got announced there was like well. This is not going to work. And this is not gonna work in you. Remember the intel transition. And i was saying this is not the transition you really have to let go of what it used to be and i get that i understand your basis for that thought boy the first statement. They made his. We've been doing this for a decade and like dude barely walk out stays within the first six words he say. Hey we've been doing his head in my head. We've been doing this for over a decade and today we're gonna show you like what public so i i've been trying to say that to everyone has calm down and relax. This is not the first gen. I you have an ipad in your especially my. Dj friends is toronto and algorithm dj runs on your ipad. It will run on a new computer. Okay thought i guess. I know role. I'm gonna be playing on the show today okay but There's no denying apple's designing chips since two thousand seven. But they've never done a desktop version of this chip. This chip will be attempting to run software designed for an intel mac. Not for an a fourteen processor and it's a different environment that there are new things you mentioned this. Us before thunderbolt You mentioned the unified memory architecture The the memory is actually on the chip. Which and and that brings up the second caveat or negative because This ship can only have two thunderbolt channels and can only have up to sixteen gigs of ram. That's the max you can get on these new macintosh computers so they are somewhat limited. I mean you could get sixty four. Gigs of ram on the mac mini misconception. Like this is where the weird thing like. I think nerds forgot because we only ever by the high end that the literal machines that these are replacing the macbook air the lowest end pro and the original silver. They don't sell any more. The silver mac many were all sixteen gigabytes and to more. If you want more ram you could get more ram not an air not there but you get on a mac book pro and you could like mini versions of those computers right and also like the person who buys the air is not typically the person who would want sixty four gigs of ram but makino many buyers. Which you you own a lot of mac minis are they all sixteen years. Most of mine are actually because i don't require. We're we don't really expect them to do that kind of well. Okay so when we buy a mac mini. I'm expecting it to do a limited amount of work. In fact we. I think i'm gonna be buying a mac. Mini one of these new ones in the next couple of weeks is specifically for the kind of stuff that we do. It could be perfect. You know for for what we you know again. We don't expect mac minis kind of like glue that we tied things into. We don't have high expectations in fact looking at the stats that i've seen come out so far feeling that we can do more with them than we than we did in the past So so they're pretty i. It looks pretty positive as far as what that looks like. An and while the we're limited right now sixteen gigabytes. We have to remember that. This is the this is the three twenty to forty version. I understand you never by an one mac or apple so back but t that these are not. There's going to be a lot more to come. And it might be prudent to wait. Because i gen because there are limits Well don't buy it if you win. By the in television if you would never have bought the intel version was sixteen gigabytes in two terabytes. Don't just buy these because they're shiny new. Well here's a question why the system you would buy. I mean some people were upset. That what you mean. A mac book pro with only two ports. I mean there are. That's not an illegitimate complaint. That's the mac will get replaced had to port rights. Literally right there is. A question is sixteen gigs. Now i'm gonna put a different hat on defense at but sixteen gigs of ram on. This platform may not be comparable to sixteen gigs of ram on an intel platform. That's what i keep saying. It tells members management's very different right It's segments longer. Travel like it's lpddr. Four memory apple has their own kind of lpddr. Four x Which is a faster than ddr four because its unified architecture right well. It's it's shared is shared between the gp but the thing is that lpddr four itself even on the intel machines is limited to sixteen when apple goes above. It they dropped. The low power version is just plain ddr four and bolster the battery to compensate for it. So they're just. They're only replacing the lowest end most popular and most constrained devices at this point. Yeah i think people cannot get that disconnect from their head but again you're doing calculations based on the way that a intel based processor handles memory rate and i keep trying to candidate to horsepower. Ray when you look at a muscle car to horse power as you know five hundred horsepower but if you go and get yourself a little rice rocket like my boys appear and you lighten it up and you put in some turbos and stuff like that you end up with a eight and a half second civic and it exists look looked. Espn sports races. You'll see in exist in the world so again everybody was trying to put that power to weight ratio based off of trying to move a lead sled level car. But if you take it down to a motorcycle high busa or jitter you have things that are a hundred and five horsepower you know. A suzuki jigsaw one hundred and five horsepower but zero to sixty is faster than the ferrari. So you cannot just ally that speed that you know went to speed that. What's gonna come until you actually have it in your hands. And there's a lot of postulating bases on guessing. It's yeah and even though weird. Benchmarks are leaking out to geekbench in graphics. Bench those are prob. Those we shouldn't we shouldn't judge until as i said something like wednesday. When the actual reviewers people not rene but people like rene who are benchmarking furiously even as we speak we'll have some better numbers benchmark. I prefer time to complete work. I think benchmarks are like one person faster off. The post was another person better at the at the end. So i i like like how. Long i- injustice footage. How long before i'm exports giving you plausible denial at that ability to you. Know what you're doing with that machine you may or may not have just protecting your ass there I appreciate it. I just feel like there's a lot like benchmarks are one thing but also i wanted meaning workload. Yeah but if you're a photoshop user sixteen gigs. yeah it's on a apple silicon but it's early imagine photoshop that doesn't bounce sixteen times before it opens a beach ball constantly with every time you move the pointer like the battery life is going to be transformative like the performance is one thing i think. Apple was aiming for battery life and they didn't get lucky with the performance. Interesting pollute their prioritize battery life. You think on these these these machines not a mac pro or anything but these machines they were looking for battery life yet. They pin in a mac book pro pro. Well this and i would. I would i would say is the self identified pro. What say is with the two ports on the side and that thirteen inch. We kind of considered the pro lite like it was never really a pro. You know it was kind like or is like an air pro or a pro lite but it was not really a a true mac book pro ever you know and so when you look at the performance specs on it. It was not something we we're buying the we have a couple of thirteen inches that we bought. But it's the one above that so so it's not that one and so we would consider that one a slightly the advantage that it has the air is the fan right. That's the big thing that it's going to be able to manage heat more effectively mac book air with a fan is what your pipes we have. We don't know what the clock speeds even apple didn't say clock speeds now matter anymore. They may not may not matter anymore. So good all are gonna say the transformative piece of this is all of these things being on one chip the fact that we don't have to go back out to the board all the time. We don't have to use those external buses. We don't have to deal with all those external pieces is going to dramatically changed the performance profile and so It's not gonna matter exactly whether these components faster the fact that they're able to talk to each other so much faster Is going to make a huge difference. In what's available. And i and i think that it's probably one of the most transformative things that we've seen and i think that Within a very short period of time manufacturers are going have to figure out some way to do something similar you know. I think that it's going to be very hard because without owning what apple is doing is. They're forcing everyone to play a game. That almost nobody else can play. Nobody else can play. Is that i own. The you know. We own the operating system. We own the hardware. We all the components that go into it and we're gonna vertically stacked those so they all work together effectively. I don't know who else does that and without being able to do that. I don't know how you keep up. I looked down the path of okay. Well this is the three twenty by to forty version. What happens when another one comes out. That's got thirty. Two gigs of ram sixty four. Gigs of ram. One hundred twenty five twenty gigs. Aram sitting on that chip with twenty four lanes and all kinds of other stuff. That are going into it. When you think about a mac pro that is is a is built for this The the performance specs could be dramatic. You know and it really could put you know the pc industry on now. The pc industry will respond. They'll figure out some way to do it. But it's going to be I don't see how a traditional pc keeps up with what apple has just done. They'll sell modulators a feature. I think will be the competitive edge. They'll have the pc's yeah like if you want to build a gaming rig and you want to have a rise cardio and a half khuda cores. Or whatever i think they'll just but the question is if you have a hard time competing with this unified piece. What what benefit does the mon- to give you if if you can't keep up with the unified architecture like we don't customize ability one of the things that's becoming very clear and this We'll talk about later. The the issue with the big sur release and the and the slowdown of certificate service. But one of the things is becoming clear and clear is that this is a fair apple is getting more and more locked down you. I mean it's an appliance. It's an appliance. you can't. I mean upgrade. The memory. The memory on the chip. You know you can't upgrade the memory. There's nowhere to put it The controller for the hard drive such as it is is on the chip so that you can't replace the hard drive where to put it So increasingly these are sealed boxes blackbox. Some people will hate that and some people won't want that if all you care about is what it how it feels to use it and getting a job done. That won't man. I think that. I think apple commonly i always think of apple as they look at what ninety percent of the people want ninety percent of the time in that sense ninety percent of the people ninety percent of the time. We're gonna want something that's faster that works. Well that's integrated and and there's a a more of a fringe element that's going to want to and i. I built a box next to me that i built so there are reasons that you build boxes that you that you need to do. Very specific tasks so. I don't think that that's going away. But i think there's going to be a large number of people that the vast majority that won't care if especially if the performance start hit the what what. What were the rumors are. I don't know a lot of people that are. Just i grant the clearly to the m one but the m chips the family but the i mean you can't. There are people who say seven twenty camera. What to what. Seven p cameras easily addressable for that for the computers. That is replacing. That's a nonfactor. Say twenty money p cameras and also talk absolutely but nowadays the people who need a better camera per se. You not use a built in camera. Anyway you're gonna plug in his sony. Sixty four hundred like here and you're gonna slap won a segment sixteen lens like here and you're gonna be fine arts. I don't care what they put in a machine. I'm not gonna use it the people that really matter they don't care but it's funny because i'm watching youtube videos and watching nebula. All i saw was people who actually use mirrorless camera complaining about cameron that they put in a computer. And it's like just some people that are just capitulating because they have to or they make themselves feel better or like i. I on as post today. I said i think people are living saint on this stuff. They don't wanna get tagged as a fan boy so they have to say something bad but it really doesn't matter for the people that are going to end and maybe these cameras will be better because of the dedicated hardware peak image processing. Yeah i mean. I think that you know we send out. We send a lot of kids out and well. We just assume that they're the built in webcam. Whether it's pc mac is not going to be usable for for our firm events It's not it's not something that we We we even think about so we send them either logitech nine twenty s or broncos But that's just kinda what we send out and and that's a significantly better camera that that you're never gonna be able to afford to put into your Device and so two back talks you know point which is perfect. Which is that for people who care. You'll buy an extra camera for people who don't care it's good enough so let's lower expectations and people should not buy this. Unless they're replacing the intel equivalent. Yes yes This this is not. This is not a high end system. This is just what i in system might look like damn sir mack. Amir the tide them over until they get the more powerful machine just because they want the new thing. That's the way it will be. But i think a lot of people it was. I don't wanna say it was a safe and gutsy move because starting at the end is a power profile. We all know from apple like this is a straight ipad pro sort of place so we know the power that's going into this but also the macbook air is their most popular computer laptops. Far outsell desktops for apple and the macbook. Air far out sells any other laptops. So it's also got the they trust this enough to burn the burn the boat behind them and go on an one because they stopped selling. They're still selling the higher end versions of the mac mini and the thirteen inch macbook. Pro until they are only selling this on the macbook air. And i mean knowing what people by air for this is going to be bits could be better battery. Life heavier series was horrible. Wiser ships were terrible. Yeah so it'll be. It'll be a better experience than your existing air and by a long shot. Probably right and the thing that kills me that there are two things that really impressed me. One is apple seems genuinely surprised. At how good these are and that doesn't happen that often like sometimes they'll they'll project confidence but i think they were really really were targeting battery life and they got huge performance gains but also. I had a chance i did. I have to admit. I had a chance to talk to some of them on the record on one of my shows The mac and mac os marketing team and from what they were saying. Steve taylor who runs a product director of product marketing for cross platform said they were getting better results on metal in emulation than they would get straight on intel so if you have an intel app that leans on metal it will run better on apple silicon than it runs natively on intel and that that is sort of makes me categorize a lot of what my thinking was going. Well then that's another unknown because most of the software you run we'll be having to run on emulation on rosetta to And so that's the other unknown is how the software you need is going to work. I mean if you're just using apple software i presume logic final cut All office all the office tools. They'll all the native they'll be is using after effects. You're gonna have to wait a while. Is that universe okay. Is it universal binary for all of those. Yes so it's like it was in the low interest transition. One version of the program will run natively on either intel or apple silicon. Yes rosanna though. Because it'll do a translation on download. So you don't have to do it at runtime every time. Yeah so it will do it. Either when it's downloading or when it first runs and dynamic code it'll still do it at run time but for everything else and they've had three years to figure out how to accelerate the stuffing out of that so take. Yeah somebody brought up this week On actually years deals and they were talking about well you know. The the microsoft office is not gonna work in this and that like microsoft office works really well. On phones and tablets at microsoft office works on amazon super. Slow tablets and large portion of this stuff is gone cloud and so again one of the conversations claim. How's it going to work with cloudy and We find because it's a run in the browser so to speak. So that's another reason. Why people's expectations of what you need for ram and all this stuff. We're kind of different too. Many applications are trying to move to. They're taking the dependency off the cpu and they're moving the dependency to clusters that existence space. And you're just sort of the window sort of back and forth as more and more computer applications. Run that way. It'll be fine because you know when we got to. How do i remove this background. This picture on my iphone. Your iphone is complicated calculation to pass. That would run up to a surrogate come back but now you can do half and half you know and then eventually it will be back to the just the iphone chip so again. I think people's thinking is based off of what we know. Not where we're going. There pulled apples falling gretzky and and really the apple is what they need. That computer to do is a much bigger than what we looked at. In the past it was simple word piece when we look at. Us dc when we look at a are coming when we look at all of those those things driving forward Apple needs these. These computers to be higher performance. Apple did say leaked benchmarks. That came out leo. They got so. If people aren't aware this geekbench uploads everything you run. And i think a lot of people who have early access don't realize that so they just got all fucked up and they've got a bunch of emulation benchmarks now and the the m one by itself faster than any apple computer currently at single thread even in emulation mode. It is faster than any current apple single core computer according to apple faster than ninety eight percent of pc laptops. Although pc world gordon mong called called Called that Bs apple is full of it. He said this is I think i think that he's trying to redefine. They're both divining two different things. Apple's talking about the the the total number sold and he's talking about the number of different devices so him ninety eight percent. Because it's well there's only x. number of devices and apple is one of those whereas apple's talking about the total number of that are actually sold. There's a lotta the. pc's out there right. they're talking. he's not. He's not comparing apples to oranges. What they said whether we decide. That's a useful statistic and almost all those statistics are useless. But yes what they were. Defining is that is the total soul. They're not full of it. They're just picking a different paying more that that's kind of. Bse thing because you know what people think. That means that. If i were just to go to the store the chance of me finding laptop. That's as fast as the new macbook. Air is one in fifty. That's what they think. It means it's not what it means. Well but i i will be. It will be interesting to see when it when it comes up. What the cost of the computers. That are faster than that. We'll be on the to compare if you read the fine print. What they really mean is fast than ninety eight percent of the i five based pc systems with you you a six thirty graphics Based on the best selling systems publicly. i'm publicly available. Sales data over the last nine months. It's not it's there's a lot. There's a lot wealthier different here. I will say that if you if you give someone thousand dollars and tell them to go buy a pc laptop. What i'm interested to see is. Can you get a pc laptop with the same battery power at the same power definitely not better but i think if you if you require those two things. You're probably gonna have a hard time finding a pc at the same price that can do the same thing. So so what you've but you guys have spent the last half hour. Doing really is lowering expectations for this first generation or the same. I'm logically expectations lowering them. So that you don't say well this is gonna you're gonna is it gonna blow my socks off. No i will be partially off your feet as say you will be slightly blown off. Should anybody buy an intel mac anymore. Yes yes yes absolutely to. They're still selling them if you if you have a piece of dedicated hardware that is very crucial to your business. Ray say like my laser on my cnc that i was stick to intel four for a while because those type of hardware. They don't do these kind of you. Know firmware updates where i can get fixed or whatever like you know. There'll be to sixty thousand dollar breaks. That do nothing. So in that case yes and people love to tax people like me and my specialized machine as well. It's going to break this yet but like you know. My sister's none of them will be bothered by chains. They don't even know what kind of chip is in your computer right now. They don't care but you know and then the other one that's going to be kind of crazy. People like to throw around this word. If there was three letters. I wish that i could absolutely remove from attack. It would be the word pro rate because people when when apple does it. It's a fire when go pro. Does it was adult little camera. That does what little cameras do. You know what i mean. But alex tell you there's tons and tons and tons and tons of high level productions. That are still using go pros for certain shots right. It's not as many as the people who own go. Pros wants you to think but they do exist right if it solves the problem if the screwdriver goes into the thing and you turn it in. This group comes out. It works does he. Well there's also like us level pro and then there's like the hd jonathan morrison and alex lindsay little. Then there's like i l m pixel. I mean i think you could spend infinite money and it's almost like anyone who lives a mile north from you northerner anyone who does your workload or more as a pro and anyone. Who doesn't it's just not a pro at all on the pros getting paid. If you're getting paid you're pro words well into what i will say is that is that after seeing the rumor performance of this chip. I we will hold onto the max that we have as long as we can like chesting saw it. I was like oh. I don't know if i want to buy another intel machine until i see what happens with the the next mac pros and the i mac and the mac pro especially back pro which we won't see for a couple of years but it will definitely keep me from wanting to unless i you know unless i absolutely have to You when you have to you have to. You buy what you need if it's gonna make if it's gonna pencil out financially for project you buy the hardware as a pro right. You don't think about w- to okay. Well i i'm going to bill. I'm going to build out this much work on it. I'm gonna go ahead and go ahead and buy it. It doesn't matter. But i will say that we will only by what we absolutely have to based on that performance Because of i think that the mac given this chip. I think the mac pro slash. I think the mac pros and the i mac will be the next group. And then i think the mac pro and the and the mac pro will be the the next you know. And i think that in that in those swats I think we're gonna see significant performance increases and so as a as someone buying them. I'm going to hold off. You know if i can you know And not not. Just jump into something because it was a cycle or because the end of the year or other things like that. So that's an interesting point That what you got from this was a signal that it's worth waiting for the sixteen inch for sure that's really interesting sixteen and it's gonna be i. I think that it's going to be. I think the performance that we're going to see is going to be stunning as we as we go forward and i think that again i think that by the time we get to the mac pro two or three years from now. I don't think we're going to see anything else out there. That has that kind of performance. So i think it's not just a performance. I think it's like the battery. Life is going to be amazing for the performance. But it's those little things like when i'm scrubbing through a final time or have to wait for the beach ball or i'm launching photoshop and have to wait for the filter taking shaving seconds off of that is going to eventually save minutes and hours of my life and that's the part. I'm really looking forward to also alan case. Said if you really a wanna make good suffer gonna make the hardware or maybe say if you really wanna make good hardware. You gotta make the software. But that's the point. Is you need to control a full stack. And that's one thing that apple's doing that really. Nobody except maybe samsung with their exodus chip is doing. They're going to rough years for excellent. Yeah i mean. But they're going to make they make the operating system They make when we'll talk about big little bit but they made their making The chips they're make everything and that's more than just raw power. That's a synergy that is very hard for a pc maker to duplicate. Its purpose built like when you hear janis. You talk about it. He says that basically their job is to make the fastest chipset in the world. Given the thermal limits of that of the chassis and that every year their job is to increase performance only constrained by the limits of time and fix and when you have a company that's not profit and loss based on the chipset which qualcomm and we'll just have to be but they only care about selling iphones and macs. There is no pnl for chip that. They can run as fast as they want. That puts incredible competitive pressure on the industry. And i think when you combine them with what. Amd has been doing because amd has been super impressive with rise in and now it's navy to It's it's i think it's industry redefining this year. We're going to look back and think that as bad as twenty twenty. It's been in some ways in terms of just silicon for the pc industry in general. It's it's going to be transformative. That's why i was willing to make this show more about apple than it would normally be. Because i do think this has this reverberates throughout the entire industry hundred permanent security standpoint one hundred percent all of the Saint nefarious software out. There is designed to is designed to bus intel stack right so we're going to get a whole bunch of computers out there that are not running intel's stack so we're started zero nine. Also i just think that the there is no way when you look at the trajectory of this tiny little chipset. Doing what it's doing is at least in the rumors and we'll see more of the reviews as they come out but as we look at that and you and you mark a potential trajectory beyond battery life just performance. The pc industry has to do something like it or they or it's going to be very hard and who would do that invidia with the arm. I think that involves buying arm. But i i don't know i mean to me. I think that you almost look at something crazy. Like microsoft vying amdi emerging and almost having to go straight out apple you know like basically you own both of those. You see the problem. They have because if they do that they they then completely cut off their oem down and and that is a that is a complete change of their business because without intel and hp and lenovo making pc's it's a very different business so follows then microsoft says does now designed to run on our custom arm chips. That's a problem. You can't do that. I can't think of another company. That's in the position. Apple is with the exception of they'd have to build a consortium they'd have to literally sat down and everybody put their big boy pants on input. They're gonna way and build a consortium. You need a consortium apple microsoft also. Yeah no that's a very good point rock. I also think you were right before like there is going to be people for whom this approaches naphtha. You know they just don't want an appliance. Computer apple is building like apple's not building general purpose computers anymore. they're building things like appliances like very few people care about being a mechanic to their own car. They don't care about upgrading their refrigerator. You know they don't care about changing their television set instead of buying a new television set and apple is laser honed on that consumer market with a little bit of of service made to pros. You know at the very top of the end. But they're going to be a lot of people who just want to buy a case and upgrade the card every year. They just want to buy a case and upgrade the ram every year. They wanna they want to do it. Like a hobbyist and apple is not going to serve that market at all or they have very specific needs like high end gaming that just apple is probably not going to cater to and it's the same way when someone says you know apple sherlock in this app yeah except for cross platform people who apple absolutely not serve at all in any market and there's tremendous value in that. I think they'll still be tremendous value in doing everything that apple's not doing is there to buy for caning developers. So you're going to really. I mean this is so already the case. But it's going to be even more so you're going to have one category developers that do iowa's mac os and then have the rest of the world. More crossover Right like the height of window. Yeah again. I think that the issue isn't i think that i. I don't know what was gonna happen there. But i i kind of feel like the john hodgman added the end. The little john hodgman thing that little preview could be a preview to a searing like apple is about to have you know they're about to have the high high ground when it comes to performance. And we you know. I think we may expect to see more of those kinds of ads again. You know where they're they're not just positioning. Add that make you feel good. They are going square and hitting the other. The other platform really really really hard. You know because they have it they they. They're going to have for the next couple years to to get to to docks point the you need to build a consortium but that consortium takes time it'll take two years to organize it then it'll take two more years to agree on things they don't take five more years to build it. You're talking about ten years of everyone trying to organize themselves around the idea of what to do while apple doesn't have to talk to anybody you know and and that is that is devastating. You know i think that it's it is So what you look at with. Developers is while i have you know for the average youth business user fifteen hours or eighteen hours of usage. Time means a lot you know for the and then as the performance comes out for the the average three artist or the average video artists. See you know seeing these crazy performance. improvements is going to mean something else. And so You know and then you take that with a searing set of ads. That constant constantly underlined that and it doesn't mean that apple is going to take more than ten or fifteen percent of the market but that's the most valuable ten or fifteen percent of the market in the industry and that really takes a lot of the fun out of it for a lot of other. Pc manufacturers let me I should probably play the john hodgman. So it's such a good moment. It was one more thing on the on. The one more thing wasn't it And i just felt like that might be i. I thought it was just funny that they would add it in and it was like. Oh that's a blast. From the past. And i was like oh. I wonder if it's a a hint to the future of of how hard they're planning to people don't let set in these are the slowest. Soc chips that will work exists. Ever right everyone's like these are the slowest ezrachi tsitsi tips. That will ever exist so six months from now when the m two or the x. As we need says is gonna come out you know when we get ready to build sixteens. Now we're at the next one and then soon we'll be in five and it will be at 'em sakes which chips are invisible. That's the knicks and again. I think. I think i do think that the more modular Could catch up at some point but the the problem is it's gonna take them a long time to make the turn because it requires so many people agree on something and that is the thing that apple is forcing. I think that what we're seeing over and over again is apple starting to really force. The industry to do things are uncomfortable with john. Hodgman hang on one more thing high. Ipc is there a time for questions. Good because i have one. why why. Why call these advancements. What's the point right. Oh you're so quiet now. look i'm a machine. I'm proud of it in longer. Battery life plug it in plug it in fast. I'm fast. i'm still fast. Chicken up got it always been there will be batteries straight. Gotta go plug in. Good luck. thank you apple courtesy. Courtesy apple computer. Don't take us down plays We people were wondering why john hodgman's beard disappeared last week. Now we know he had hit a gig That really was great to see him back. Let's take a little break This will not be all apple all the time but there are a few more things we need to talk about. And i really honestly. I'm gonna defend this. I think this is a big shift for pc's for the desperate computing and And maybe the shift is. Maybe you kind of nail it when you said. There's there's a fork in the road appliances. Whatever that other thing is work stations. I don't and and here's the fork in the road. Well but we also have to remember there the the the the mac pro is not an appliance and it was built in the era of them working on this chip so it it may not be the only only that's a year off. Probably they said there's good it'll be the end of the two year transitional. Be a new. Mac was last year but it took them a while to get the final but it ended with and mac pro. They rolled out right. They may maybe faster than two years. You know apple likes to under promise over deliver but Just for twenty twenty leo. Nobody knows anything. But i don't know what's going to happen next. I i mean i'm very happily but the macbook pro. Maybe i should about the air. That was a crazy crazy thing to do is the announced when they announced it back in twenty sixteen the announced this weird computer and they said it was for people who would normally buy a mac book air but just wanted a little bit more and i think we have gotten people who self identify as pro. They're like fat. They founded startups. They're doing crowd sourcing things or they just they wanna feel like there are probably want that pro logo on that machine but they don't have me as opposed to. It's literally a mac book air with you know slightly better performance any and slightly better battery life and i think apple is they sold a ton of those like a ton of those and i think they're smart enough to not keep that at that around twenty hour battery life. Maybe yeah for for apple optimize video. Yeah yeah but everything else is going to be good too. Yeah all right. Let's take a little break rene ritchie. It's nice to see you. We didn't have your mcbrayer quickly this week but we're gonna use up. We're gonna miss you not miss you next tuesday you'll be back. We're near us up in the next couple of days and find out everything you know. Baby review will be out by them. We can get you to talk off on the record doc. Rock is also here. It's always a pleasure to have you. Youtube dot com slash doc. Rock is and i got to keep the bearded and bespectacled. See warm for you renee. So he did a story. Yeah you were and you kept. You kept andy appropriately like you let them go but you give them enough rope but you didn't let it and of course alex lindsay. We haven't seen it in the age. It's great to see you in an uncharacteristically gray box. Usually some fancy backdrop. The craze become easier to manage. Yes everybody loves What is it thirty percent gray. Everybody loves that umbrella that they're nice. They just just easy. 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Have less storage and one less core the. gpu is. Explanation is perfect. I won't even try to exterior. Go ahead rene. Is that what it is that why it's it's just like it's the same reason why you got the a the twelve x before you got the a twelve bed. Is that if they just went for the ones that had eight cores there would be lower yield and higher cost so this way they get more chips that they can use and they can pass along those savings and a lower price. Gone mac bulgaria so instead of segmenting based on clock speed. They're not doing that. You can buy the lowest end of the highest andrew. Getting the same clock speed per core on the cpu and gpu. They're just saying if you want to save some money you can have one with seven. Gp instead of eight okay. Yeah i got. Because i need more subtle even know for make any difference to me cowbells on need ball you. What is interesting is putting a sixteen core. Neural engine in every new mac That's that's the thing you get on a phone. i'm not sure. And they made a big deal about that machine learning and stuff. I don't do a lot of machine. Learning coating on my on my macintosh. Not the coating. It's going to be the image processing it's going to be final. It's going to be pixel mater and photoshop and final benefit from it. Yeah all the neural filter that they're doing now like colorizing and super reds zoom. It's everything that you can do on an iphone camera. Now you'd be able to do impose process On one of these max. yeah They talk a little. Bit about the pipeline. It's a big pipeline a huge pipeline And that can make a big difference in performance as well as the amount of l. to cash on chip sixteen billion transistors. If you say it's an eight fourteen okay. But that's a third more than the a fourteen. Let's the extra cores and then it's got the mac specific silicon ip and. It's interesting because they didn't just spend their transistor budget on more like they. They save some. It's efficient and performance and apple. Seems to really believe that you get a fee performance through efficiency that if you can keep that chip super-efficient it'll perform better. It's because it's not overheating. It's not sucking down all the power and i think they're proving that out now with these designs. Yeah bay and i'm gonna ask alex this because i think you're probably the one that will be most Penalized by this No eeg gpu. Support notice screechy you. How important is that to you and do you think that the m one. Gpu is going to be sufficient for some of your all of your needs. I'm not. I'm not buying a i. Don't buy computers expecting to put a gpu in it. So i thought so. The fact that mac mini or or one of these can't handle e e gpu. I'm not really going to buy one of these expecting it to if i'm in buy one of these for the field. I might buy one so that. I can You know for me. The mac mini is going to be a really good zoom Head head you know for for bringing people into an event Where i do think the gp is probably gonna to perform better than the previous mac meetings which were pretty bad intel's integrated graphics are so bad that anything apple does got a better probably better than a lot better than yes. Yes but i think that that has me interested in the mac In the mac mini is. Because i think i might actually get better performance than what i expected but i don i again. I don't buy computers. Expecting to add an gp so it's not really that big of a deal to me. I i will that be an issue down the road. I mean i. I built machines sometimes with four dedicated cards. Yeah zoom yukos's dedicated. Gpu on these these but so generates the other question. is you know. Because apple is is pushing down a lot of those pipelines. We know we don't know what those other chips are gonna look like how many. Gpu how many lanes are they going to have how powerful those is going to be and again all of these things being integrated without having to go out to an external bus sale without having to negotiate with external components You know is going to say a lot of time. Thinking intends to eliminate the discreet. Gpu yeah i do. I mean i. I i think that you can put it in but i think that I don't know if you'll need to foremost thing. Now i think that automatic pro whatever chip goes into there may allow that because the mac pro is extensible But i think that as they look at all the other chips they're not going to really consider the gpu as an an extra piece could not just even a a a an amd card. In the case well. I think that i don't know what the mac pro will do. As far as that goes but i will say is that all the way up to that. They're not going to support an gp. Because i think that any gpo would actually slow them down. Yeah you know. it's gonna suddenly shane. It's gonna it's like it's like transferring files and to really pat fast. Computers pass over the internet is. We're gonna we're just gonna make better and better I don't wanna use integrated graphics but we're gonna make better and better yeah. Gp us on our our our chips and you will if you look at the power consumption of amd or Video like if you look at. Npr you look at nabi two there. Their two hundred to three hundred watt draw. And we've never seen apple operate above ten or eleven or twelve watts on an ipad. And i i. I don't know if they're going up to on these maybe fifteen. Lots or something but the amount of overhead that they have to fill before they even reach parody with our draw of those cards. and also. when when i'm when we're talking about gps. When i'm using an iphone. I am pushing two million polygons. I'm doing ar artists it with the iphone. And i'm pushing two million polygons at thirty frames a second right now. On the last generation of iphone i haven't even started on the on the twelve yet and so that is an enormous amount of gpo power already on the phone and that's not even nearly as powerful as what we have here. And so. I don't think that there's gonna be a lot of power to spare you know for for what these machines specifically are capable of and then we again we don't know how many how many lanes in the gpu ncp. You're gonna be available for larger chips. And i keep telling people now. Like when i first heard about it i thought it was funny did i did it and i was like hold. It's not funny. This actually works on luma fusion on ipad to cut four k stuff rate. I get my basics down. As then i use the final cut export open it up and final. Cut slaps titles on posts youtube prerogatives much visas. Renamed it. It amazes me until i got this twenty twenty. I'm like a month and a half ago. My ipad would run circles around my two thousand seventeen. Twenty seven inch. Mac with like sixty plus gigs aram. So when you start building the software that works for the for the chip running at the rate you know clip doing everything as it should is faster than you think people and like. You're trying to compare. Well i can't even get for you know four k. Streams to run on my computer yet but they just said that they did for full gear to streams on k. Are you joking like are you honestly ak cameras. That can't play aka. what his back. So i think people get a wrapping their head around what they know. And i fully understand you. I'm not claiming that you're dumb for that but you need to let go. I do not call leo by doing this anymore or going. Can i get lincoln. Eight five seven. No fam stuff changes. It just changes. There's still people that buy vinyl records and turntables. There's always going to be people that will buy. Pc's with external graphics or discrete graphics cards. But i do think that there's there may be a. There's going to be cases where you need to soup it up or were you need a lot of more control. I mean i use android phones for certain things because any them be customized. I use i have. Pc's for things that need to be customized or or the. The apps only run on a pc so it's not necessarily all one way or the other but what i will say is that the performance is going to be really compelling and again the pc market is going to have a really hard time making that turn to compete with it and if they really bring out these the hodgman ads again. It's going to be. It's going to hurt a lot. Can they still make trucks. Is apple still going to make trucks these. Are i think the big the big problem is that we like these are trucks with really nice and others luxury system want that like they're not taking away the flatbed. They're not taking away. The big bumpy tires. They're just making it real real nice inside and giving that engine just as much power as they can give so. It's like it's a. It's a really nice luxury truck. When mac os came out a whole new generation of application software started by delicious library but came out. That was beautiful. It was functional that was skew more fiqh. It changed our expectations of software. And i'm wondering if this is going to change our expectations of software if this means adobe and the and the kind of the Historic incumbents are gonna be left in the dust and the upcoming companies like luma fusion and pixel mater are going to be the next generation of tools response is going to be unbelievable. I think that's i mean i areas. People are not gonna wanna use light room. they're going to say why am i using lacking sluggish. It's slow. yeah yeah. I mean you know. Yeah loon lumine. I can speak english sky loom last week. Yeah luminary. I always hated that word because it gets stuck in my own. I love light. They'll always be mac fun on me. I ask thank you thank you. Kevin will always be. Mac plunged to me. I love light room from the bottom of my soul. But you know what i use it every day. Nowadays i use mac fun and because what they're doing is different in. It's incredible and if i had to give it to somebody who isn't as pixel paper as me to edit a photo they can you know. Light room is great. When you're trying to protect your job you know what anybody else to be able to get in there but if you wanna be open and inclusive and let more people come in because it actually expands the industry for what. My dad's ilk used to say about us hybrid shooters now my dad. He his red sits on the floor. You know what shoots with all the time his sony Eight four seven four. Because it better as amer i gotta admit death also taste aids now lugging the reds no fun. Yeah you know back in. The dave is probably my age. It was the line. It's separated from the guys who were just playing but if you ask him any day what he wants shoe with at at seven four. He's gonna pick up that sony and run around. It has a six thousand dollar battle on the front but more users battisson orders pro. Yeah he's that's how i got this way. Yeah hundred. Percent cassettes patas man. They're talking some heavy heavy glass serious glass as your industry goes back. Yeah yeah i think. Adobe is a pretty delicate we are because the people like me bristle at the constant membership. You know that. I have to pay for for using that and while we have a station. That has after-effects and in premier and other things. It's mostly just for getting things in and out of those apps so you know most of our work. Most of our graphics work is all done in motion Are heavy duty. Technical stuff is all being done in resolve in dementia resolve and then the stuff that needs to be fast turns or all done in final cut and the thing is is resolved is a good example of for three hundred bucks. I have an incredible amount of power resolve. Is emma native. Gonna be emily right and and you're talking about apps that are native that are that are also incredibly powerful In and used in the industry and then you also have final cut again. That is with both resolve and final cut. You're paying three hundred once. You're not paying fifty bucks a month for those things and so and then for photoshop. While i still have a copy of photoshop. I spend more time in affinity photo than i spent at photoshop. At this point you know so. I'm you know i'm slowly transit transitioning because i'm trying to figure out can i do it in finito and right now. I can't do absolutely everything. But the things that i can do. A lot faster you know and so And to get back to that is very responsive and very easy to use and so so. I think that we're going to continue to see adobe kind of having to kind of figure that out now. I will say that i found it interesting that they posted a bunch of videos about three introduction to threes. So i'm interested to see what he's gonna do to go kicking and screaming. But i have a feeling we are headed into a great schism. A great separating a calling where there are gonna be people that are going to go one way and there's gonna be this new way this new apple way and there's going to be you know as soon as you start using luma fusion or pixel mater pro and you're just going to say yeah. I don't need that. This transition transition was like when is microsoft office. I'm desperate for it in this transition. It's like hey as long as the browser works in google. Docs five true. Well we're was going to get all sparked the because he said we're going to have a great color so i was wondering if he was coming. I mean like team edwards dracula. Lestat tell me he's not in the club. I'm more like thinking like thanos here. We're just gonna take half of the industry and chop it away over here. We haven't talked about at all even within all these things is the a our capabilities. And and what's what's about to happen here if you pop. Open your phone. Your new apple minute device. Yes well and you go but you go. Let's say you go to the apple apple usd z. Examples just just search that on safari apple. Us dc examples and you click on one of those little objects in there it pops out of your browser into the real world and that light art snaps immediately immediately like instantly you have whatever was there on your table or on your floor and That is the beginning. Imagine being able to do that right now. You can take those models and put them into your motion project and through motion you can put them into final final cut in motion or both using a three engine and and then in a what we don't we haven't seen yet but i can't imagine not coming is being able to have that three d engine that a are engine inside of Pages and inside of you know keynote and maybe even numbers. I don't know why you would do that but but the thing is is that being able to start putting that kind of content that three d content you know everywhere And and then you have by having the us inside motion final cut. You already have tools. That are able to create content for that market waiting. I i had not tried this with a new phone. But you're right. that's instantaneous. Out of the web. No longer like an animal downloading. So it's going to be a ghost town loading the boom. It's there and then boom now coming out of his face and it's got a shadow and it's really quite solidly attached to the table. Because of the lighter yeah and it's not gonna slide around and so so you know it's not just the performance of the of the The desktops it is going to be apple starting to play a bunch of games that are very hard for everyone else to play like look at some of the stuff around dolby vision and dolby atmos. you know apple you now. Have you have airpod pros that are using at most. You have all the phones. I mean if there were there was a race for. Hdr that racist done you know. I wish i had somebody on the radio. Show saying i got. I buy a new tv with dolby vision. Because i've been shooting a lot on my iphone and the hdr looks great on my iphone. But i don't have a computer that can display it so i need to buy a tv. Can't afford a next. Tr display while the the issue is. Is that the the problem that everybody has now is that now there's going to be tens of millions. Possibly hundreds of millions of people acquiring footage in thousand knits of of brightness Before it was like oh if they had the tv if if you lived in one hundred world which is standard dynamic range if you lived one hundred world your whole world was kind of there was the real world and then there was the hundred and it was kind of dark world that but you got used to it. The problem now. Is you have a phone that has constantly showing you what the difference is between one thousand one hundred minutes and and so so the that people's eyes are now getting trained to what thousand it's looks like and and the problem is they're they're tv's not going to be sufficient their computers not going to be sufficient there you know and all that and the only thing they're gonna know is vision now and they're not gonna know what hdr ten is or hdr ten plus or hlg or any of these other Formats and so you know but the reason that that's important for manufacturers is manufacturers new. Hdr ten is mostly. We don't wanna pay these licensing right so so the so you have dobie vision. But the problem is they're going to have as consumers are only gonna know dolby. Vision is at this point because apple's pushing it down the path and so So apple's forcing these other manufacturers to pony up you know or or or be seen as falling behind and so apple and then the same thing with the chip so apple's forcing everybody else to play a game. That apple plays better than than than they do. Not that's gonna be an interesting mark for the next decade. you know. this is true. Alex i find myself looking for themes on my dad. Listen to in turn my head. It will rescan noticed gimmicky. The the airpods does airpods pro surrounding spatial santa person who group in industry. I should know that. There's a gimmick and this. Just stop. But i can't help it i'm like ooh. It works over. Homepods spatial audio amazing. Shut up yeah don't is is that candle is holding the hand many Well ask a question. Yeah magic ball says maybe. I'll tell me about joke. The minis minis aren't quite as good as the main homepods as far as recreating a surround sound but we we've had Not not myself. Someone in office hours Teaching asher has he He has a discrete atma system so ten speakers or or you know you know at his home theater and he put to homepods in there to compare them head to head and he said you know the home. Hearts aren't the same but he was amazed at at how close the homepods got to a discrete system because they can wriggle. Yeah yeah so so. I think that But i did the dog's point though. I do this all the time. Now i i do think with my head where i go as soon as they pop up a video that that i i know it's coming from. I don't know what the platform is. I immediately go back and forth in my head. And i go. it's just stereo. All the windows users feeling really bad right now. So we're gonna we're have to figure out something here to make them happy. Oh i got something. Big sur came out on On thursday and it was kind a message to the tried to. We'll talk about the second. Is this going to be an apple. Show the whole freaking time. Yeah probably probably You can go play minesweeper. Saw the you gotta solitaire game minecraft. That's microsoft minecraft like minecraft. Although i have to say animal crossing is my new minecraft building that island up getting a little tear form are do not at volcano to your island. Just speaking from his. Can you add a volcano here. Island if you can. I'm doing it. Oh you have one on your island. Yeah yeah allen over but any time he goes a week yeah. It's not a good thing. Yeah good point. Good point okay. They offer me a volcano. I'll turn it down. How about that talk. Rock is here So where can we see your dad's photography mind giving them a plug. he's retired. he's retired now but he used to support a lot of the Tv and film guys. That would come hawaii to shoot. I mean there's a lot of stuff in asia originally worked at in korea in see twenty one another production company but yeah he's been in the game longtime retired. Maybe like ten years launch waters the peach with his base seven marked for his lens. And it's funny. Because i was like his old guy then. All of a sudden he'll bus a drone forgot the name ak drone. old guy. Get we have a fan of what does he have. Always eight inspire now. Dj i inspire. Oh nice the nice. But it's just hilarious because no one's expecting this og Eddie carries everything in a plastic bag from the grocery store in so that way. It looks inconspicuous. And you're like man. Crack eight funny our show today brought to you by my good night's sleep. I'll tell you if i couldn't get a good night's sleep. I don't know if i could do these shows But thank goodness. I have a casper casper. 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Came out that Anytime you open a program apple checks with their certificate server. Os ocs p server to see if the developer certificates legit. And if it's been notarized and because so many people were downloading big cert- seems to have affected the s server. Everything's slowed to a crawl designed to fail open so if you're not online you won't even know or if you block it with patrick's lulu or little snitch. You won't even know because it says i can't get the certificate so i'm not going to bother but if it's slow keeps try and your software. Now i didn't i have to say i. I read about this on thursday. I didn't notice it. I asked my wife as your mac slow. I didn't know any of you guys noticed a slowdown on thursday. No no i think it was joe like so. This is interesting to me. Like on two ways one is. I think there was an architectural failure in the way that it was designed because like you said if it didn't get a response from the internet it would just fail safe like you would just keep going. But if it didn't get but if it got through but didn't get a response. Maybe it thought there was some sort of chicanery. Malware is trying to stop it from communicating. And it would fail secure but that should have been something that was connected into it but i disliked the reporting on this so much. It was one of those classic examples of my mom watching bbc and cnn and my youtube comments filling up on us. It said things like every time you launch an app apple gets a hash of the naps. Name and Your geo location time and date and that is not true and it was. An apple. doesn't pertain any of that data. Anyway whether apple retains it or not yes. That's we have to trust apple that they don't retain it and you know maybe i trust apple but whether they retain it or not. It isn't way microsoft. Does pretty much does do that and even admits that they do that. Apple's doing it for security reasons. This is part of system integrity protection and gatekeeper but and anti malware and it doesn't do it all the time. It does it. The i it periodically. We'll check the developer certificate. It doesn't necessarily know what you launched. Because all adobe apps have the same developer certificate but many apps have you know can be identified by the developer certificate. So apple is getting some information. It's not and it's not tied to you. Like weiner's standing is that it's very similar to how their other operations work where there is a unique but time-limited hash that lets it. No you know that these these things are happening together but it again. They say they don't retain it could be tied you. They've got the ip address. By the way it's not set and this is the other problem it can't be sent encrypted because the p server also disaster ticket approval for https. So you'd have an endless loop if you send an encrypted so it has the senate over hdp and that also raises the issue that it's not just apple that may be seeing. Your isp will see this traffic anybody in between you and apple. See this traffic. So maybe apple's not malicious with it but this traffic is being said that should be better architecture and the other part about the little snitch and stuff like again like if you look at this through the lens of appliance computing. I spoke to a bunch of people about this and they're like if i'm serious about the security. I'm not running anything on my mac. I'm running this at the router level. Because i have eight hundred different devices in my house and i'm not just blocking macbook air. I'm blocking the stuff from everything in the house and the only way to do that is a router. So so you could do that. You could block. It would fail but by doing so you would be defeating system integrity protection. Yeah but i mean if you're paranoid about like most for most people like as much as we'd like to believe that we are a hard target for everyone out there on the internet. Most people could care less what we have for breakfast. So but if you do if you have a reason to believe if you were if you believe we had this discussion with dave super-duper he really opened my eyes on this. He's like do not encrypt your backup drive. And i'm like but why encryption is good and he's like no. Nobody cares about your kids photos. But you and once you encrypt that if anything happens to it. Those photos are lost forever for your personal private. Highly mobile data encrypt that completely for like stuff that super for that would cause a divorce. If you ever lost it make sure that that is kept in a way that you can recover it and this is there are certain things that for people like anti malware is more important for the vast majority of people if you are the person for whom zero knowledge is critically important. You should be doing this on the router or using lennox because because windows does something very so you might want to switch. You might wanna mac like you might wanna bunch of stuff and you be. Your kid is on. You can block yeah But again you disabling this kind of a vital protection against let. Let's sip run on your mac You don't care like is just goes no longer checking. It can no longer check the certificate. It just thinks you're just thinks everything is not not yet doesn't matter so if you had malware that was not notarized would matter but i'm guessing if you're that higher like so yes if you're really dumb dumb paranoid don't do this but if you're really smart know you're you're engaging interest practices and malware is not your issue like there are some people for whom their data being stolen is far more of a warrior than their data being lost it being lost as far more of a worry us every commercially available like run at like an appliance. If being stolen this is this is the fork in the road. This is the appliances we are at and the other thing is is that we last couple of months i had to really think about security for computers and you know it it really became you know because we were in a position where we were possibly targets of state actors and so so the issue is that you get into the situation. Where if you're really going to be serious about it like if you're actually interesting you need to You know our computers were completely separated from all the other computers they will. You weren't allowed to talk about talk to the outside world. They were in unless they had to and when they did they through. There was all these rigorous you know the way that the the the passwords work in the way that you Accelerating assess things and what you install and all these things become something that every single piece if you're not going to do all of those things you're leaving game gaping holes open in the the only reason most of us don't get hacked is because we're not interesting. Tournament is that is that is that generally we are One thing i got it became very clear up over the last six months. Is that in general. Most of us live in a pretty wide open You know and so. There's a couple of things to do there. One is to be relatively knowledgeable about what you're download. Another thing is to You know it's it's taking those those basic you know you. Financial theft is something that you're probably more apt to be in trouble for. And also i would say don't be interesting. Like don't do. Don't go to websites. Aren't you know like like the thing is on line is is that You know i used to be very very like how do i stay off the grid. And how do i stay disconnect and everything else and i learned that the best thing to do is just not do anything online that i can't i can't back up you know because it's just it's there's You know when you look at all these things. People start to feel they're secure. You're not secure not secure online if someone wants to you know like you're not secure like as soon as you go out there you're not it's it's the wild wild west and and so you just have to kind of think about what you're doing and what you're connecting to and and make sure that you're doing things that are defensible. So let's let's talk little bit about the change in an this is patrick wardle's tweeden and all that the change in how firewalls work. Little snitch still works lose still works. I have lulu running on my big cermak but apparently it's not as effective as it used to be because it's not a kernel extension. It's user line now. It's an user land so a apple can bypass it. And then patrick says if apple can bypass it then there is always the theoretical possibility that malware bad actors could bypass it as as well but if it's at the kernel level then there's possibility that bad actors can access your colonel. I mean this is like the trade offs that we make all the right right right and agree that paranoid switch to the new tip because debut. There's no excuse written toward yet. Although they save changing executed was as fast right now they don't exist. So if it's paranoid into actually a big sur which i'm not a big the biggest thing people will notice the cosmetic changes which i'm not a fan of I find it hard to read the menu. Now i it's just everything is all the texas thin colors pastel and it's just not as good but that's fine. That's just all get used to it but there is this big shift that is probably good for security in apple's new mac os eleven And they started this and catalina. You probably noticed that if he ever looked at your disc with a discount till you've got to volumes now you've got a read only system volume and you've got everything everything else and they're separated actually more and more. We're running into problems with a key anytime on program. This program needs access to your document folder. What you've being the. I have to give it permission. Yes you do suddenly there's all of these permissions that are involved You know probably we should learn not to give disc full disk access to every app that asks for it. I suppose but That's now photos in iowa like you want to give them access to a few photos. All your yeah yeah. They've really gotten granular. And now this This read only system partition is signed by apple and can only be signed by apple so one of the first things i wanted to do with big sur is a clean install. Forget it leo. You're not gonna get to do. You have to turn off boot. You can order to boot to a. Us speak is all of these processes have to go through. I ended up just saying okay. Fine. and it's a. It's a is clean install because this read only partition is replaced with another read only partition. Only apple can sign it. Which also means you'll no longer be able to make bootle backups. Because it won't boot because it's not signed by apple. The work around according to mike bomba cheap carbon copy cloners to make make a backup of your disconnect. Install big sur backup. And that'll make a portable because apple will sign it when you install big sur onto it so there are some big shifts in the underlying security model big shifts and the probably again for the best. It's but it's the appliance models humor's consumer electronics but for traditional computers. It's it's horrifying. Yeah there's always this. There's this layer that you always have to be careful of. Is that when when you turn the security up to high people stopped using it. You know because it's because it's difficult and so that's always going to be you know. Some people are trying to opt out of things because or or get laws fair about opting out of things because they can't they don't want to You know deal with that. So it's always a matter and i think what apple is doing a lot of times by embedding it all into that process that they're kind of doing it for you and again the average person is going to be not gonna care and they're probably better off with it If you're a geek that that Then it may be more of a problem you know if you really want to dive in jeffries is it. Doesn't slow down performance. I don't think people should just get bent. A lot of shape over a yes. We are starting to miss some of that granularity in some of that control but we're also getting past stages where you need that now. I got it. If you're not on wi fi re-booting when you don't have an internet connection with modern devices a painting a bite but as long as you have a connection it it rebuilds itself using the recovery server so you don't really need that buddha. Usb anymore although in the very beginning. I screwed up. This brand. New computer added a box trying to do a time machine backup. Which i never do. I was lazy. And it did not like that. You know the switch to catalina with the two volumes the container. Yeah but luckily because i have docker based server in back and i know how doctors work i just had to think everybody should just be running docker and then you have to worry about this. I just like the main. I like the whale like on. That's what i like so that actually is another issue that we will probably bite people I i think apple's doing though is is Is is probably going to be for the best. But there's gonna be some bumps if you're using time machine for instance time she will now use. Aps but in order to do that you have to turn off time machine erase the hard drive turning back on reforming the hard drive turn it back on but at that point time machine is actually what it should have been all along a real snapshot thing instead of a bunch of hard sim links and weird folders So there's going to be a bump a bunch of bumps along the way i think Be reading apple allows for short term pain if they believe there's long-term gain more than like then microsoft or companies like that like they're they're willing to cut those. They are willing to burn those boats to because they know that mac users probably willing to put up with it to a certain degree. I feel like we are at the fork in the road. And this is jeffrey paul here. Maybe this is a little bit sensationalized. He's a hacker living in berlin. Your computer he writes his sneak. Dot is in yours. It's here it happened. Did you notice the world. Richard stolman predicted in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven the one corey dr o also warn us about and he's talking about how mac os you know. Basically has a mind of as a life of its own. He overstated what was going on. This is one of the blog posts that said More information being sent to apple. I guess the question the question is does he do the users that by care. No i don't think that they you know. I think that that's the that's the issue is is that they don't you know they're just they're fine with it in the same way that people are finding people use facebook. Facebook is do. They use chrome managed environment. And it's better for some people in. That's why i recommend the crook signed booder. You can't you can't modify the operating system without the chromebook saying hey you're you've been hacked. You can power. Wash it yeah. It's complete appliance the problem. There's a little disconnect. Because a lot of mac users start using yes because it was a unix machine you know it wasn't an appliance very much so I don't think it's bad that it's an appliance now but it is something to be aware of. I guess let's take another little break now. We can stop talking about apple. Thank goodness aims. God i'm so sick of now we can get mad at google. That's coming drag. Dougal for the rest of the show drag google for a little while rene ritchie dot com. No sorry do you have rene ritchie dot com. You should have dot net and dot com dot net. Okay and that will that then. Forward to youtube dot com slash rene ritchie. Nobody post all the videos there so that you can see them and a lot of the transcript so you can read them. If you don't have your lower thirds say rene ritchie done that. I think only people go there. But i think youtube is easier for people because they've met their expectations. I put a website up sort of an accessibility feature. I like it. Look at this. it's nice. I didn't even know you did this. It's the baby yoda phone. Do you like them any it really is i do i do if i didn't have big photograph and big battery needs. Ibm any gruber said that he thought the max was too big and it is big. It's heavy it's like but it's like a fine german automobile. It's i like the bigness of it. Yeah and that camera man. Have you taken a little light pictures with it. Yeah the funniest thing with the camera was east. Saw this stark divide in the community because like m. hd marquez brownlee. Peter mackinnon and a couple of the people said there's no difference in the camera and then neil patel and matthew pans arena and a couple of others so there's a big difference and it turned out that people with kids and pets. We're trying to photograph their kids. Pets and people without them were photographing like their computers. And with the with the ibis it was making a huge difference. If you're going after a moving target but not at all if you're going after stationary oh you know what. I've got a lotta pictures of pets on so there you go. And the deep fusion it is really nice on cat for it does and also like the new ibis the image by staples in body stabilization is really good for for for catching those moving targets. Yeah yeah And i liked the blue. I got the blue. I think that's me too. But this is the apple one is gold in. The one i bought myself is blue. Yeah yeah. I did go last year. All right Let's take a little teeny weeny break doc. Rock is also here. Youtube dot com slash. Doc rock you have a website to that you're not telling anybody about It's duck rock tips. I need updated it. But i've been so busy making youtube videos of everybody just goes there any way the livestream thing like yeah things things that i used to have to type. I could just say about five. Now i feel like Youtube is just a different. It's a world. I don't know or understand. I feel like pioneered leo. Like you're you're you're you're talking right now dave you too. That's why i don't understand. Yeah and i was trying to explain that to somebody today from the What was that. Show the science type thing. You until the data o'brien than you went to toyota the site and Yeah that's what i was the virtual character. Yeah and then call for help like you. Predate youtube i mean like yeah but now you're doing video all of that you're saying man. You predate youtube. Like nikola tesla predated. Electricity yeah he got a seat car would just horrible and so nice to see my old pal. Alex lindsay come up for air now that the electricity and you stopped doing things that were under attack by nation states. I can't wait to buy you a drink and find out what the hell you would It's nice to see you again. Oh media at alex lindsay. And you still do the office hours. Find out about that in this twitter feed atlantic's lindsay or on his page. And if you want to see the office hours you can go to. Youtube dot com slash That's also we all have our name. Youtube dot com slash name and we put six days a week. We go ahead and stream most of it So you can. You can watch most of the episodes that we couple of hours a day of content that we're pushing up and It's a pretty interesting group of people that we've collected so twenty to thirty Panelists who represent a couple of centuries of media production That that are all answer people's questions that's all we do. There's a hey if you don't ask any questions it's going to be really short show and somehow people ask twenty or thirty questions A day and we we do the best we can answer them and so everything from. Hdr in at most two What drives should i buy my heart. My mac and My phone doesn't do this. Or i'm having trouble with zoom so just a why whatever the audience comes up with as far as questions go we. We answer them. And i'm at youtube dot com slash. Leo laporte where. I have a patient in years. You've all the twitch channel on every day. yeah youtube dot com slash twit. There's a lot of channels there. I should probably be po- preparing kind of post twit like separate from twit like blog and youtube channel. I mean i have all that stuff but don't put anything there just in case they fire me just thinking i should. I should have put all your eggs in one basket. We had a good week this week on twitter. John do you have A little mini movie. Maybe that you could show people that would help them understand what they missed. And in the other corner the smoking hot xbox series x and s either smoking. Hot because it's awesome or because it's literally smoking hold on hold on i'm ripping us. We put your faith. Don't put your man previously onto it twit news. Well now it's time for the mac taking gigantically for well. Today we are incredibly excited to announce our first step in this transition with our first chip designed specifically for the mac and y all right so the rumors has been with the m one ship powering. Three new apple devices starting with their most popular the macbook air this week in google. There was a story about tiktok in the news today. Saying hello any is what's going on tomorrow. You're supposed to put us out of business. They could just shut off. It'd be quiet or they can just continue to attack them and say. Hey look we. We put on knicks out there putting all it is ridiculous information out there about as we we got business to run all about android happy birthday and roy thirteen years old now. This is a huge milestone. You're officially a teenager. Androids voices all cracking right now. Thanks lot flow. Twit thank you jim cutler He's so great please. Do microsoft has published a alert. A warning do not blow smoke into your xbox series x. Because that's what that's what i always think of doing on man. Smoking probably not a good idea. Vape in the first place and then and then add that the not go to your xbox i really would love either an xbox or place i really wanted. I got up early On wednesday it was it wednesday night thursday morning and spend an hour refreshing target and walmart hoping i could get in there and order. But no you got one rene. Did they send you to know. I don't see. I don't that's that's the curse of covering apple. If they don't get any of the else doc rock you get a playstation fine the whole i did want just teams xbox refrigerator though see that. Oh yeah he's one snoop dogg has won under giving away rate and only one and actually. I wanted to partially because he had any other parts because news. But i'm really curious what's inside kelvin's wins inside. His is not what is in science hired. I take that wait a minute. It's not like i would think alike college refrigerator. It's it's a big refrigerator. It's an xbox series. X is refrigerator. Leo so okay not expert but do what what is martinez brownlee say. When he sees this he was all sorts of other stuff. How come. I don't get a refrigerator. He says this is actually a great shot of puzzled and her sister looking at this thing and saying what the hell what what did i just can't was that. Ups drop off this giant thing on a pallet. She has a very very clean garage wrong with her. Little tesla charter. Yeah alex discovered just by one point. She was on her way no matter what. Yeah well good lord. There we go to class ran for her. Very on brand yeah. It's the unboxing of a giant refrigerator. It really is a giant refrigerator. Wait a minute. let's jump ahead here. Let's see it's could take them awhile. Unbox this thing it is. It's a fridge. Does it look like an x. Box can you go into it and you see the power button. Oh mike god right now okay. Maybe the next girl get away. Get away for the fridge. And it's all his if you if you look at the number of views. That was the most that was the least expensive promotion. Three million views right nice always in but does is make you wanna run out and buy an xbox no because you want to free just kind of like brand promotion. I guess would be full of bourbon but it's okay and then what happens to this. Does she give it back. I mean what are you going to do with this thing you contest where you can win one. Oh she's going to give it away three not this one. I think there's a third one given away this one. Just cates xbox cakes in the fridge and it's just a whole bunch of promotional nice fridge is that it's probably sub zero right. They just painted it all right all right. I should have gotten into youtube. But i shot I should know. I don't what do i. What would i do with the giants fridge. That's the problem you look at those things and you go. But i'd love to. I'd love to be on that gravy train. 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Uploads all your photos and then even has a button that says to lead the photos that are backed up and save space on your phone But now it's the same as icloud. You're going to pay for the storage that you're using so i they make icons that you that even even graphic designer can't tell and now this leo war with us at war they hate our their users. You get free with google. Drive free fifteen gigabytes. Honestly it's fairly portable. And i pay for it if you had a pixel phone Back in the day you get unlimited original storage. Anything you've got stored. There's going to stay there. It's new stuff. That's gonna start counting against your google drive. My mom just got the warning the it popped up and said g mail space. Because she's one of those people who just send countless jeff gifts. Yeah with g mail. We shared with all your site in subscriber to get back on track Willa ramos writing at on medium at one zero says this is koogle's anti competitive behaviour. I don't think i agree with this. But he said. Google photos crushed a lot of other photo storage servers senses on the way to the top because they were free so they put them out of business. And now they're gonna charge. I guess that is kind of classic anti competitive behaviour he. I don't even remember. Ever picks or loom or picture life but he says Those startups basically could not compete against free. One billion people use google photos. And i guess once you have all those photos there. You're kind of duty bound. Keep using it. Amazon still offers unlimited free original storage. If you're an amazon prime member Sites like fly that do photo printing will let you store unlimited photos thayer as well so there are still some competitors but do you think this is anti competitive google that this is as as willa ramos says. Google just made the case for breaking up big tech. I don't i. I don't think that there was a big conspiracy with google. I think they just organize. Yeah you know. They're like wow. We're spending a lot of money on storage and there's a lot of you know there's a lot of energy being consumed to twenty eight. What are the twenty eight billion photos. A which is something like that. It's so at some point you do have to an again stop. That's been there for two years that you haven't touched That you're not paying for stars that really add up to a lot of storage and a lot of power and a lot of other things and so You know. I while i could be theoretically upset if stuff disappeared. I don't it's though. I mean at least so far. We're gonna let us keep your stuff there. Yeah so so they talked about. If you don't touch your if you don't touch it for two years or they're gonna got to lead it and what touching photo i got thousand votes photos. Got two terabyte. If you don't use your. I have okay like i have. I have probably twelve or fifteen. Google accounts i i. It's it's not uncommon to have a bunch of account uncommon. Have that many. But it's it's not uncommon to have a couple as saying jbc jbc the third. Hey it's google they could have just said. Hey starting in june twenty twenty one. There's no more google photos. They didn't do that right. You'd be happy reader. Number google reader wave or wave. Some put anybody business right. Well the part about this. I think that no one wants to wrap their head around the reason why you're upset. Let's get let's be honest. I like to be honest. Okay the reason why. You're upset is because google wants to take away. Let's say two terabytes of your photos because you stored them. They're for free because you didn't wanna buy a hard drive for you. Two story house so you're mad that someone else is going to stop paying for your story. Terabyte drive is fifty bucks at costco right now. I was there yesterday. go get it. Press down will get it all and then start again like take. What's up there on your off and then put the new stuff. You got fifteen games but i mean yeah you're complaining because you man. They're not going to hold your hand anymore are i. I think that the fact that they did it for so long as quite a quite a feat that that i would never put anything. I want to pay for things i have to admit. I don't think for free. Because i want to know that they're going to last. We're paying for it. I have a better sense that they're going to actually be there next week. As opposed to if it's free it's just a draw and resources eventually. Something's going to happen. And i think there's worse in their free customers. Typically like i had paid google account for a while and we got features later. It didn't work. Well they would cause problems with android devices when you logged on with your pain account for your free account. It's a really freezing. Google turned out to be a really interesting thing. Because it's enabled access to services that a lot of people financially just wouldn't or couldn't afford but the capriciousness with google annihilates those services i think is something you always have to remember before you go in like go in with your eyes wide open. Take advantage of right. Never depend on it and renee. Can you tell people this. Because we didn't go listen to me. This is ten. The ten th time maybe longer just picked a random number of this guy because whatever number picked is higher than that That free stuff either. Stop becoming free or died so when when you realize there is no free not a one. Here's the killed by google site killed by google dot com with all two hundred eighty cloud print. Remember that killed by google. Google play music. Remember that killed by because they destroyed a lot of rss readers and then they went away and yeah while to ramp back up. Yeah i mean this has gone on. Google killed their expedition. Which i thought was a really cool. Vr tool oh should we show the we got one minutes launch. We should probably Show the crew. Dragon is about to launch this time. With what four four guys. It's this is It are they going to the space station. Where else are they going to go right. Mars is it. There's nowhere else to go. Go to the space station. They're going to space dock. Because enterprise is ready. Oh wouldn't that be cool. Yeah take it out. Take it out. Mister sulu. let's go for a ride all right. Well we got a minneapolis engines on a night launch which in florida which people You know love. there's something to say. I've never seen one. But i hear that they're just stunning fireball. Which you're about to see is a lower third say google just cancelled his launch cancelled by koogle known sorry elon. Musk is such an interesting story because both he's supposed crazy. He's got covert now. Apparently he's crazy and doing this. A lot of masterminds ingenious weren't very nice people leo. We tend to not we think of your genius. You have to also be humanitarian. It's not not calling thomas. Edison had twitter. We'd think he was a nutjob to. I'm sure steve jobs on twitter. Yeah yeah steve jobs on twitter right but he had the good. Oh look at that now they got a big countdown. He had the production value to keep it. He emailed a few times. More than you probably probably. Yeah yeah you're the production values and all the space stuff through the roof but necessarily good at this understand. Public relations is a big part of this. Yeah i feel like they they can take i. I didn't see. Obviously we were on the show. Why did the last launch. I thought they could have done a lot more lot. More production. we you should do. A little Telustrator go they turn out the lights. Look at that. see what i mean. They turned out the lights that you could see not contains humanity not even rabbiting contains humanity. Lazy gentlemen not even gravity eight hundred million tons of explosive material up your but no gravity won't continue that's the motto of the m one chip not even granted gravity teens nap dragged. They mandate the laws of physics constraint still thermal envelopes constrain them. It's actually really hard for me to watch launches because i'm still traumatized. Fm challenger. i just. Oh please please let anything happen. I don't want anything to happen. That was one thousand nine hundred eighty five. Six watching it live was i was in school. Yeah watching. I was hitting him while i was writing A writing mac assembly code sixty thousand assembly code in my in my skivvies watching gibson is doing that watching this launch. Yes that's right. It just kind of hurt everyday. Say he was watching it in this school. I know what school grade school. Yeah i watched the first one in school. An elementary school like the very first base mission ever forget My mom and dad wake me up in the morning to watch apollo land on the in nineteen sixty nine. I was twelve three year old guy. And i realized you were that old. Yeah black and white. Tv at heart falco right. There goes the falcon rocket with the crew dragon. This time folksy gopro. Gopro go widely the fiber. It's it's it's a osmo. They actually the video of the separation now and the the or or real insertion. It's just remarkable to see that they really do a good job with that and manage and cut off the nine merlin engines throttle down and shut down. We're going to get state suffer. It's fun i miss walter cronkite. But it's fun so all good. They're up their separation. That's pretty cool. Show they brought to you by zip recruiter. 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Four plaintiffs contending. I don't even think of this. The google why you google is using android users limited cellular data allowances without permission to transmit information about those individuals. That's unrelated to their use of google services. Two hundred sixty megabytes a month via cellular data when the phones are not even in us. I don't know yet what that data is or why it's being sent. Of course you agree to it. I'm sure somewhere in the fine print and all that Eight point eight megabytes of day a day of data. It is that a problem. I mean i guess it is if you're paying if you have a very small cap that's the thing is like they give you a lot of free stuff. But they don't pay you for the stuff and that that's a difference. I think eventually it will become more and more like the. You're paying with your data and for some people especially if it's costing us cellular or it's costing you some otherwise you might decide that they should actually pay for that data than rather than just charge you for it's probably telemetry or something. Google google feeds. It's machine iky. They are letting you use google services inexpensively or freely because they are using all that data to make google better right and that sort of the bargain that you're signing up for so the what the attorneys did is they set up a brand new samsung galaxy s seven running android sign into a google account. No wi fi let it just sit there With all apps closed transfer data to google about sixteen times an hour I guess the next thing to do would be put you know wire shark or something on there and see what what that what that data is. Not the i time. This just seems inefficient. Caputo wasn't doing anything. Yeah it was still working. At least i think that it's it's inefficient. But i don't i don't know worthy of a lawsuit right Maybe it's preloading adds. Maybe it's I don't know what it setting the register which had this story asked google to respond They declined to comment This is not known what it's doing. We'll keep an eye out nerds. We'll figure it out. They figure everything eventually. Eventually they figure it all out Eric schmidt remember him former. Ceo of google has decided to be a citizen along with his family of cyprus. I didn't i hear cyprus. Really nice this really nice. This time of year The advantages once. You have a cyprus passport you can go all the schengen countries you can go all over the eu and it's not Not horribly you know expensive. Just a few million dollars Cyprus is one of a number of countries doing this allowing you to effectively by Citizenship skirting residency requirements Just give us a little money Eric did it not only himself but his family. So they're all it doesn't mean i don't know. Do you have to give up your citizenship if you become a citizen of something. He denounced the announced american taxes. Even if you don't live there yeah yeah they're gonna they're gonna get you until until he denounces that he's still paying american taxes. This isn't really a tax thing. it's more of an access to conceal. Wants to be able to travel around to change his name to get his privacy back because what he told us to do. Yeah i mean in the last couple of years it has because of all the reciprocity with what the united states has been doing. Things have gotten harder to travel not that we noticed this year. But but the but i. I think that being able to have more flexibility is probably part of the part of the process and you youtubers might be disappointed to know you will not be on the bus this year in the youtube rewind because they're in gumby one. I feel so weird about this. I feel like this is youtube. Sort of copying out on one sense because twenty twenty has not been like youtube rewind was originally way to sort of celebrate youtube and eventually it became a way to sell you to advertisers and it became increasingly separate from what the platform actually was and sort of cringe for the people who were involved with it culminating in one. The most disliked videos in the history of youtube was that last year the year before last year they went back to the top ten list. They did basically the watch mojo thing but it feels like there's been a lot of people struggling really hard on youtube when they could tell that story and they maybe. Because it's not an advertiser friendly story. They're just advocating it completely the first time since twenty ten the youtube will not have year end rewind and i and i wonder whether this is a convenient way for youtube to kill it off. I think it was starting to become a liability. Was the most disliked video of money on youtube. So i think that i think we could see them. Just just letting slip off into the dark next year. It'd be bailey likely. Yeah it's you know it's it's it's a recipe for disaster on the one hand. You are rewarding your top creators by giving him some prominence but boy. If you mishandle is they didn't twenty eighteen. It's it's not doing doing okay. they don't need. they need the help. Also like you can't win like why is your why creators i mean like eighteen million thumbs down on the twenty eighteen re one however it did get two hundred eight million views. So that's not bad money. Yeah that's right. That's just i don't know anything about these things. I was just curious. I watch these things. I don't know who any of the people are deciding twitches because twenty twenty was hard right no. We're doing it. Yeah we're doing it man. We're doing it Let's see what else you hit amazon with antitrust charges. Yeah that was gonna be rough e us really cranky about what they don't like if you're a vendor what's going on what's going on we're looking at space was at the. That was at the main engine shutdown. John's my space expert. We're nine minutes into the launch. Oh oh. I love it when they do that. That was the recovery of the rocket landing on the platform. That's what that was. I love watching him every time every time only one this time john only one recovered there was only one. You only need one all right. You too youtube. European union youtube. I confused them all the time. The eu has unveiled formal antitrust charges against amazon for abusing. Its dominance in online shopping. They've also been the second investigation into the company's business practices the Investigation for the first part started last year to probe it's dual row as a role as a marketplace in retailer. The concern is you. You'd amazon uses information gains from being a marketplace for third parties to create its own competing products. The investigation found amazon feeds non-public seller data such as number products ordered and selling our revenue into its own retail algorithms to help decide which products launch launch and the price of each new offer author. Kind of what. Quick grocery stores probably do when they've house with house brands right It is but at a whole different scale. Well yeah so. Everything is older print scale and i think that that is the i. I don't know how you solve this problem. I do think that amazon's very it's it's obviously very advantageous position For them to be in. But i think that it is starting to get to a point where be willing to look at it. At least i as you know. I don't usually say that but it is starting to get to a point. Where the as a retailer as someone who's coming up with a new product. How do you come up with that new product without just being run over as soon as you start being successful they're gonna take it away you know and that's the I so. I think that that's a really interesting interesting problem that i don't have a solution for but it's it's complicated because it doesn't necessarily hurt the consumer directly consumer will pay the same less. You know for something of equal but it doesn't stifle innovation because people can't because because i know for me the most someone says there's a product i immediately want to go to I'm eating just see amazon. Because i don't want to put a new credit card. I don't want to go through the sign up process. You know. I want to just go to amazon. It's shipped to me. Today's yup yup the the part that gets crazy because the common questions in alex's isn't stifling technology or innovation as you put or you know there's many products out there that are very good don't exist on amazon but still so lots of rate. For instance wrote doesn't sell on amazon. You can buy road stuff there because people resell other people selling. Yeah boy you know you. You can't go to amazon. And buy a pod mike or road. Castro pro or like direct road road is now one of the top microphone companies in the game so like you. How do you say that you know will amazon. Did take a very similar s. Might made an amazon basic version but nobody use amazon. Basically one everybody wants to road part mike. You can't get one. So i get it and i only talking about like nuts and like you know hats and socks and things like that. But i don't know. I i mean to your point. What's important for a lot of retailers or anyone. Making something is your brand. It's how many people trust that brand. The reason that road can still sell. These things. outside of amazon amazon can even copy and it doesn't matter is because rotas built a level of trust with their users with the the public in the same way that you know whether it's black magic or or sony or other people we trust that's going to be a certain thing So road road has benefited from that. But you know you look at In a lotta ways of combined. I if i've come up with something that's remotely interesting you know whether it's Amazon or chinese manufacturers. You end up with a you know it's hard to get something out there. That isn't that simple That might be engineered. Might have some ingenuity but might not be patented It's hard to make that work. So i think amazon is kind of this giant snake. This kind of just grabbing onto all those things in and again as individual users. I don't think we necessarily Are impacted by it. But i do think that. I know that when we worked with you know large information companies. We've got a lot of innovations that that we wanna do that. We're very careful not to show them because we're just like well that'll fit you know they'll they'll just take it away and they'll run with it. How remember back in the day. You would never show microsoft anything. They just kind of dancing with you. Know you know you know. I wonder if at some point. We're going to see kind of a head to head between amazon and alibaba of the chinese giant. They had two singles day was eleven eleven four days ago fifty. Six billion dollars in sales in one day in one day. They're spreading it out now. It's going to continue for started in november. I guess it ended november twelfth gross merchandise value surpassed three fifty six point. Four two billion dollars as of wednesday. That's not a final figure So i think you've got to mammoths you've got one in the east one in the west it's gonna be very interesting to see At some point they're gonna come head to head right that's going to be the next world war. It's not going to be between nations between online. Shopping giants tiktok. We mentioned that tiktok would say. Hey hey what what up. What's going on Still shut down. They did get an extension. Cvs responded saying you. And i have till november twenty seventh. It's complicated though. Because a a judge stated so. I don't know what's exactly going on. Cd's the committee on foreign investment in the us Said you have till the twenty seventh to divest is oracle gonna buy it. I don't even. I don't even know oracle and walmart and walmart. I don't even know tiktok was saying. Hey we haven't heard from anybody. Commerce department says it cannot Thanks to the court order shutdown tiktok. They were going to ban companies from providing internet hosting services for the app but the judge wendy beatles stone my favorite judge in philadelphia said the lawsuit was brought by three tiktok stars Comedian douglas marland fashion guru. Cassette robin musician. alex chambers. They said you're oughta you shutdown. Tiktok you shut down all my income and the end. The judge said yeah that would be bad. So the judge stated The tiktok as petitioned for the divestiture order to be invalidated You know there was then there was an election. And he's only companies governments shouldn't try to regulate specific individual companies but make regulations that car industry would be regulated as part of facebook and twitter and tiktok and while we should be regulated as part of infant like targeting companies. Leads down to downtown past. It would just a kind of aimless ploy for votes over and there's no way to because cares anymore and it was you know and and it does Kind of lean towards the capriciousness of current. You know political atmosphere that we're going to go down some crazy path for no real reason. So it's it's so. I i i'm i think. Probably just wind away. I think so. I think there's still something to wear a lot of. It also came from again. The regular traditional media. They talked to story alive because at the end of the day. You're losing eyeball time to the burgeoning media's if you would call them and if you remember say what circa two thousand then on a say three when viacom's is one or two. I'm sorry i take that back. Two thousand seven when viacom wanted to blow up a youtube and there was all these fights stuff in any way into room and shook and he took it out and all of a sudden lots of viacom shows had youtube channels that guy millions and millions of us and it still exists to this day so like initially you're threat and then they figured out how they can use they put the lawsuit away worked it into. Let's make it work to our benefit as well and then now it's normal right. Stephen colbert is on youtube. Two seconds after he goes off the air because it's a very lucrative position carson's first internet video. I don't i don't remember this. We talked last week about how they've they've Remastered the dancing baby. Remember that one. Do you remember the exploding remastered. They remastered it. You didn't see it. Yeah they've made it's because it was. You probably know alex. It was like a sample three d from one of those program. He put it in ally mcbeal. And that's something that was big in ally mcbeal. The oregon historical society took the original exploding whale footage from nineteen seventy fifty years ago. It was sixteen millimeter. And they and they remastered it and now ladies and gentlemen. Oh it's gonna load an ad. I don't wanna see an ad here. We go the special remastered version of first video. It's still loading it ad karston here. We go here. we go highway division. See how better that looks now than it used to. Let's play let's play had a problem on its hands. It had a stinky and whale of a problem. What to do with one forty five foot eight tonne well dead on arrival. We're moved back. A quarter of a mile away from there weren't covered with spectators land. Lubber newsmen shortly become land blubber newsmen blasted blubber beyond all believable bow. This is the first viral video. Apparently ted it was more exciting than the launch of the falcon. I greg sale. All right alex lover all over the iway. Stop rolling immediately after the blast. The humor of the entire suddenly gave way to a run for survival is huge chunks of. Okay thank you karston barbecued at that point. You start doing this remastered stand. I just took to render that outlet. You could've done them. One chip very very quickly say Gee i got it in. We quit quote full circle lazy gentleman. I think we have done our duty to you wall and then some so. I'm going to take this opportunity to say. Thank you to our fabulous panel renee. We'll see back here. On tuesday for another mac very quickly. Sir we'll I think we can go in and even deeper dive on the m one chip and find out what you fat up. Maybe we'll even get to see your review. I don't know if it'll be out by tuesday but we'll we'll find out i don't. I'm not saying that. He's is reviewing edited. He has his hands on anything. He would even know anything about it but if he did. Maybe we'd find out more on tuesday. Also want to thank alex. Alex you've got to come back to mcbrayer weekly whenever you can okay. I'm ready okay. So now the election's over you got some time on your hands. I've got a little bit of production over the next couple of weeks. And then after that. I'm ready to go all right. Nice Alex you can find him of course at Alex lindsay on twitter. Land a. y. youtube dot com slash. alex lindsay. If you want to find out more about office hours every morning seven days a week for three hours they discuss video production technology. They have guests. It's really amazing. Show you a great job and it's so nice to get alex. Thank you for joining us and could be a doc rock. He's a youtube web. Youtube dot com slash. Talk rock also doing double duty this week. Thank you for being on macaroni back. Here forty six twenty twenty. We set a record. I got tweeted twice. Tweeted tweeted twitter. Tweet twice tweet about it that you got twitted twice. Okay okay sir yes sir. 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TWiG 569: Lettuce Cats - Twitter hack fallout, Tesla's Austin Gigafactory, Softbank sells ARM to Nvidia?

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TWiG 569: Lettuce Cats - Twitter hack fallout, Tesla's Austin Gigafactory, Softbank sells ARM to Nvidia?

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We ended last week, so folks kind of. It for Stacey for needing a two. Spruce things up for raped by skype room. You know we could just with a little photoshop. Frankly just put that in. We because can yeah, that's true. I could have a different taxidermied. All of this changes mood color Oh. Chuck mounted this Ohi. TAXIDERMY DOT COM. That's an Pruitt from hands, photography hands on wellness and the reason that everybody's trying to look better because look. How good look look! Look at that Shaw, thank you. Lit and the person in it. He don't need no taxidermy. Stuffed animals. Just think. These. Days show about this, Stacey. We could put this. I'm just thinking over Stacy's shoulder. The perfect perfect I love trash pandas. Yes, it's kind of a reclining trash panda. He's got his chin on the tree stump. He's just all. He's looking at. Yeah never heard that phrase. Aka Raccoon. But he's a flying trash panda, because there's no leg on the ground. No, he's in the air. He's definitely in the air. That would be a very tricky trash Pat Badger Badger. Reporter emblem. You are as nationless as a badger. I'm really liking the raccoon. I think saw. Lion now I was looking at an alligator there. Some caymans that were kind of like. Upright and I was like Oh that gives me both height, and it's kind of a skinny spot, so you don't have a lot of animal room. These people also offered to yourself burden mounting kit if you wanted to. Have prices deserve price on the trump. Yeah, let's see here price levels. This is posted and twenty sixteen. I'm going to zoom in on this here. Antelope Badger is five, hundred, fifty, two, nine hundred. Oh, shoulder, Mount, versus full Matt You want a full Matt I think. If, you wanted to showcase the entire Aminul. That all sounds quite competitive on the person. I think it's very good. I mean that's a lot of work. To make those Cox, damn the bus Cox I want to hold. Javelin open mouth. The bighorn Wolf Bob Cat. Bison, Caribou. You could just have a cow. I feel like I must. Have a rundown open. No wonder I'm feeling so lost not that we're talking about people yet, but. Even close. We're not. Googling to get to these, honestly, maybe it's just me I. Don't think I don't. I can't get excited about anything. On this thing! We were. Actually I was exciting last week. Because right in the middle of the show, the big twitter hack happened why yeah, that was that was booths, and by the way I was. Twenty four hours. Because who is still off who Lori Gills? A I'm more DOT COM is still off. So is cranberry because and this is a classic story there. They were very early. Their it department immediately saw the first finance hack. And Brock that it was going to go I guess they saw a couple of people and they've somehow understood that it must be blue checks, so they immediately change all their passwords hydros. Thing, they could do wall. We were on the show last week. I changed the password. And so when everybody else came back, I wasn't back I had to go to. An executive was job. This was not but who was very nice. I. Don't want him to say who it was because everybody go to. Twitter problem, but he was very nice and he got me up, but I had to go through a couple of steps to back up. Because I was obviously, it turned to flag. It's not because you're Cunanan a conspiracy theorist. Well. Let's talk about that. Let me, finish, break away. Yes, Glenn Maxwell, her feisty, her father I met her father, had very close Russian connections. It was presumed to be a Russian spy, so I I think. Oh Yeah. Pronounce, G. H. I. S.. L. N. E. Land as Glen Glenn Glenn. Glenn I heard it from her father. It's like Chevron. It's like one of those weird. Irish, yeah, long then then bars. Father of course hired epsteins of. To teach. At the college and Maxwell has ties to the Israeli and Russian mobs through her father, and yeah, I do conspiracy and there's a lot. There's a lot of two threads on that one boy. Are they start pulling because a whole sweater sweater fall apart, but just to go full circle on the twitter attack. The New, York Times did some. I think intrepid reporting unless it proves that at some point that they were taken for a ride, but they did a pretty good job of verifying that they were getting. From people actually at the scene, the story of what happened. And they did this. Very quickly! This is only a couple of days later, and they were able to finger a user. Named Kirk. User named Kirk. Who claimed at the time that he worked at the twitter? which would sort of make sense? Except that it turned out, he didn't work for twitter. He in fact did have access though to something that only twitter employees should have access to the God account the God dashboard that lets you do anything but the most. I think dramatic part of the story and again they're getting this from. People who are connected to the hack they matched their social media and crypto currency accounts to accounts were involved the the people that they were talking to also presented screen shots of their corroborating evidence logs on discord, so and so forth so there's some reason to believe this story, but boy. This is if your twitter and they've not admitted to this or said anything about it. This is the thing that is the most damning for twitter. It turns out no Kirk didn't in fact work at twitter, but he did get access to the God mode because apparently. Twitter had put the credentials for the administrative console in pin them in fact in their internal slack, messaging channel that's smart. Not Way, no, that's true. Experts. Opinion yes, and that's all we had to be hacked. Really was that slack and that gave him access. To all those accounts still I think the kind of the unknown. which was is is Kirk Really Vladimir and were Z. Spammy and probably not very lucrative messages just a misdirection while he did other things because he certainly could have done other things, twitter says only DM's of eight accounts for downloaded and all eight were unverified, but they won't say what the we're. Not Blue checks cares about that. Yeah, we don't. When I. Yeah when all this stuff was going down, I had reached out to our friend Dan. Patterson, because he he covers a lot of the security stuff and the first thing he said to me. He's like this can't be the in game. This is more than likely misdirection. That's that's certainly tempting, isn't it? That Taylor will be on twitter on Sunday by the way, so we'll. We'll yeah. We didn't tell me not just talk to him a few minutes. Didn't things from ant. He figured you would know. Yellow that. Tan Of course we're CBS's grace EVS news. Go ahead Stacey. Oh! No I was GONNA. Say if you you have to think suspiciously like okay, this could have been something. You know that the twelve nine dimensional chess whatever happened edmund dimensions of. What basically. But. I've also kind of like. After Reading The New York Times story was like Oh. These are budgets, stupid kids. Having Fun and. They may have just stolen. Their accounts credentials just to see if they were talking about them, and that's not implausible. It would be stupid for you to like plan for that. Right? So. They you know if if Kirk? Were time. didn't get a lot of money. If you watch the account, you can't really judge because hackers typically will put money into an an out of accounts in such a way that you can't really sure. They're making, but we do have one source finance, which is a bitcoin exchange buying it said as soon as we saw that address, we blocked it and we were able to block more than a quarter million dollar transactions, so a lot of people wanted to put money. Idiots but it. You know so. It wasn't a super lucrative hack. It is like you have. The you have. The keys to Disneyland. And all you decide to do is ride the train around in a circle. It's it's. Seems like they could have done more. Well if You had if you are a state actor that had the ability to have those credentials and that access. You wouldn't blow it. dupage! Did Right, so that's why I'm like, maybe as Mr Action, but it's Kinda looks. Unless! You're state actor. That's had access for a long long long long time, and now you just want to blow it up, but that even that doesn't make sense. Why would you blow it up now, yeah. Right. Right, yeah, you know election I think maybe the surface. Reading is just the right reading. So how did how did they get? So they say it was it was social. Did they pay off? Somebody inside twitter is about still it's not that's not clear. But it could be all kirk really needed was. The. Access to the slack channel, so it could be. He got some twitter guy drunk and I. Think he got into was giving them anything particularly. Yeah, you're going come in our slack. Hang out with US maybe. He. you know that's not like saying. Hey, dude. I'll give you hundred bucks if you give me God mode. That's that's a little lower level, but it turns out. It was giving him God mode so I don't know. Twitter says it's an active investigation, so they wouldn't comment to the times and we haven't heard much since. Always, worry about the social engineering at a company like this that supposedly should be sort of you know in tune with no that they could be socially engineered at. Time just because of wording work. Yeah, well, you would think. Engineered in the past few times, one contractor on leaving in two thousand seventeen. T deleting trump's account that was fixed quickly. Dorsey was hacked quite notably. Sim swats wrong ago, but he was swapped was interesting because it's a Sim swap gang. Another Sim swap or the same I don't know that did that started this they do. The SIM swapping with an eye to getting the og handles like at why or at six right makes me glad I didn't take Leo way back wedding which I could have. It was available that I was. More. Because that's those they go after those quite actively. You don't WanNa Short. Twitter handle I pour at. Yeah poor at. Yeah. Yeah. And he doesn't even have to tease his right. It's really short. Avenue! Yeah. I. Do have a beef with one of the stories that went out that said. Twitter was better now that they've verified accounts. Could he tweet? Yeah, that was. A Little Lewis snarky. You're right. You're right. It was just a different star I say. It because. It's like it was back to the people. I. Think twitter was better before. The celebrities in the big brands arrive. Twitter was really cool when it was. That's what you were. The biggest seller was number one. Okay. Let me, put it. Let me put it to you like this I'm looking at three verified right now on the panel. I want to see what you are saying on twitter. You know I. Know that you can use it as a marketing platform and things of that nature, but most of the time I'm looking for you three information for just general conversation. Because in my eyes, you are regular people that just happened to have a blue check so. Just thrown at blanket statement out is like glue checks also twitter is much better. That's because they're plenty of good blue checks out there providing a guy, you know good content I agree like my dreams. Nicest person on the Internet isn't any way too Nice I. Don't know about way. I've been angry the last couple of days maybe not. No Yeah! Oh aunt, you should have a wig. It'll make you feel better. Well I got the mandate. Yeah I'm just saying you know when life brings you down you gotTA. Yeah. Are? You fluffed up right now, stacy. This. I'm trying to be fluffy. Love it she's just. You just need. A trash pan behind you then you'll be really. Oh, man I! Just right over over her left shoulder there. It'd be so cool, perfect, ver-very perfect. They're just ready to ready to claw right. Yeah. Yeah exactly. I like that we all think that my taxidermied animals should have some sort of aggressive anti this going on. I use a threat it's to. Scream oh Jeez. It is. It is the closest to me, isn't it? I don't. Oh launch trash handed button that's. Just come out over those. Long comes out from behind the screen. Good give. Carson things do get. Get attorneys on it now so. Let's talk about this Qa thing twitter. Band. Seven. Thousand Cunanan accounts this. Was You know twitter's known about these forever? they're going to classify cue in on the conspiracy. Theories coordinated harmful activity because of a rise in harassment, targeting high profile critics of the president. Of Bad for quite a while to. Yeah. the also one hundred fifty thousand accounts. will be affected. other. New there were that many Cunanan accounts. It will stop recommending accounts and content related Cunanan. Pets been doing that. Okay? Maybe that's a good idea. Twitter and it will take steps to limit circulation of content. In features like trends and search. One hundred fifty thousand Cunanan. Accounts are included in this. But the thing is folks. We can play whack-a-mole forever. They're not going to go away. We what we have to do is learn society to ignore them. Attention, you have to be quite a mush mind to fall into the queue non. Fiction rush mind right there. And I would say Jeff. No, you can't ignore them. Smith these people are actively scary and hostile in represent in the physical world, and as a woman I would say to you know ignoring them as a bad strategy. Don't want them saying Stacey Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're absolutely right. Absolutely what I'm saying is though. that. It's it's the revision of the Old Yorker, cartoon. I can't come to bed. There's a nut on the Internet. As best you can, we shouldn't declare the Internet broken. And throw up our hands that it's awful when one creeps on, we'll get rid of them. We'll get rid of them. We but but when we give them attention. That's what they most want. To get rid of them quietly I just read that Chrissy Teigen has been a constant target of harassment by Q. On in recent weeks, and they've targeted some of her friends. Some of whom are private figures. Posting violent threats on their instagram accounts. Okay now you've gone too far if you that's practically, that's as bad as threatening at pro if you're threatening to Chrissy Teigen. And why why would? Probably. Try to break into their mind. That's kind of what they wanted to be in your head, so just get rid of them and. Say Northern Stacey just don't give them attention. That's what I want. That's what I mean yeah. Yeah, and that's the hard part, because human nature is to respond when someone speaks to you whether it's a hello, or whether it's You're a jackass. You're going to respond to either one of those statements and a lot of times with the people on the Internet. It's hard to sort of put that filter up to say. Yep, this is just another keyboard tough guy coming at me with rubbish. Although sort of supporting your point I guess the one of the reasons they're targeting Chrissy. Teigen is because she regularly goes on twitter and. You know bashes them. She doesn't well. She bashes them for being jerks to her in. Trying to police her because she's I. Mean I maintain that. They're trying to please her because she's famous woman Ryan. If you see the attacks that women on twitter, get when they have a large audience. Oh, it's true. Yes awful! Yeah, so you know it's. It's kind of like. I know that's politics, not bringing it up, but see I'm with you in. You just have to not respond and you have to sell yourself like there's plenty of times. People are like saying stuff to me on the Internet and to. It's funny because it's so outrageous. That you know, but it's also seductive in a weird way because. As you as you get sucked down that rabbit hole, you get all the support from other people say yeah, now you're seeing now. You're getting it now. You're getting it and you get this feeling of being just like any. Yeah, it's really Colty is, and you feel like Oh wow I, the you know. The scales have fallen from my eyes. I'm finally seeing what's really going on. It so I understand why people get sucked into it. But. I mean. How much how much is it? Twitter's job to? To fight this I mean that seems like an impossible task Cunanan on, but conspiracy theories in general. Openly says that they want to have this as a safe space where everybody to enjoy the platform I mean if you go on to report a particular twitter account, or what have you to have all of these different reasons? Why are you trying to report it because they totally don't agree to people, being harassing or just insensitive or spammy? It's the. Clock Right. Right. I think I think that I mean think about it this way, so if the media's at party. Twitter's like you know what you gotTa leave the part of your your being a giant Dick to people. Bingo Bingo. Yes I'm stacey thinking about this day to it's. It's SORTA facebook Arabia what do with it on. That should be the standard. If you invited this. Dork into your party and everybody got pissed at you for and then come back to your parties again. That's exactly what's happening, so don't invite door and get rid of the door for the party. Don't invited Org. Shortlist invite the door. It's like hey, when the shows himself managed to win. Let's call Madore. Places for door on the Internet. I have no power dorks while they couldn't always gonNA use a slightly different sounding thing, but I was trying to be polite. So, if you're being UNCIVIL. And Rude honor perpetual NASA's and especially harassing I. think that you know it's like a conference like most conferences are getting more aggressive about their. You know civility policies where they're Lake Hey. Don't be a jerk people if you are. We're going to ask you to leave. And if you don't leave, we're going to have security. kickout is clear where the line should be drawn No I mean that's that's part of being human is really fun and tough I. Mean When you get a bunch of people together. We've all had encounters where like sometimes I've said stuff and made people feel bad and then I'm like. Oh no, or someone said something to me and I'm like that makes me feel really itchy and uncomfortable. Is it enough to leave I? Don't know I mean. This is why I've just learned to say no. I remember I remember the day when I use the phrase and I used a sense but I'm gonNA use a PR- example right now to open your Komo, no. Right to reveal something and someone was said to be no. Jeff realize what you're saying. I thought Ooh, right right, and so that's how we change North's. That's what we do. We used to call women girls. We don't do that now. And so what's fascinating is what I said last week to is that the discussion around content moderation that was occurring with facebook and twitter is now occurring across the culture. Thanks to the whole Harper's letter and cancel. Culture is a process of exactly what Stacey say. We're to go. Shooting were adding things to list the bother. People have the power now to say so, and we're learning, or we're fighting I kind of regret, the loss such salty sayings don't open the come on. I kinda love Stacey Stacey. Get your claw out for. That I. Yeah I understand, but it's such a vivid. Analogy I like it. It's like the camel's nose under the ten except camels don't have a voice in this conversation. You know what I'm saying. Time Yeah, okay. There's lots of phrases I mean. That's kind of the same argument we see about people who are like. Oh, I'm not racist, but I like those confederate statues. They've been up for a long time. They don't bother me. I mean. It's it's not your role in the tech sector. That battle now is over blacklist. Weightless right master slave. And sometimes it goes little far his I mean. What do you think of this stacey? And then I'll ask. Gant was probably more appropriate, but get hub. when when you have a when you commit something to get hub, it's the master. And you can, and then others can pull the master you commit to the master, and in that case the master is there's no concrete slave. The master is in a slave master. The master is a schoolmaster. The master is the person the master of a ship. How about that? That's a better the original actually. Do you like the mass dramatic? Hub is going to deprecate that apple is also getting rid of it. So, this is where the conversation becomes important Leo and I would never have thought of this, and then if someone brought this up, this is really uncomfortable in. Here's why it's my job to listen and say Oh crap. That's rate. In maybe. I think a lot of the outrage. Here also is in part because we haven't ever listened to people. If you never listen to someone, their grievances build and Bill Trim. It's not like these if they weren't. Racism. It might not be such a bad thing to have the master branch, but because there is yeah. There's that history at all. How does it it bother you? Aunt, or let's put this this way. Because maybe it does today, but a year ago. If I said well the when you commit something to get your committing to the master branch. Okay, Didn't wouldn't have bothered me a year ago. but that's also because I think about things like my grandfather being a mechanic in teaching me how to work on breaks. There's a brake master cylinder right? Here's a slave cylinder so and and. Just thought about it that way. Because one controls, sport of the other is just the terminology that was used. But I'm I'm a little more sensitive to that now because of you know, think things have just being brought. Tomorrow is a little bit more nowadays so I would prefer to go with something like the main versus the secondary. Yeah, because that's all it is. Slave I. Agree with that now late. But what about other here in fact? But he was a master mechanic, but right, but on the other hand there are a master mechanics there amass tigers, MR! Musicians in I get that that's that's a whole different aspect. They're not. Posing, imposing their will on somebody else you know, you can be a master musician, and not necessarily have a slave musician in your for anything. He's just a master musician. I'd get that, but when you start talking about having two separate parties and one controls the other, there's a better way to put it I agree, and you can just say Maine in secondary. Alright, you know man and maiming whatever something like that and to go, she ate. That change is not impinging on anyone's freedom of expression. Now it's just A. Political correctness sensitivity. Sensitivity! It's not being a Dick. You said it I. We actually. We because we have Lisa. Teenager teenage boy, and he has a lot of t trends. Lisa does DB lessons don't be a Dick lessons the time with them. And and discussed it over lunch. One day is pretty great. So, Great. It's just fantastic and she'll be. And it's real. She can lease it. Do that for the whole Internet, God, i. Wish She would like to. Maybe, not that's kind of an that's taunting prescription. Responsible, there's just too many of them. Certainly WanNa be. I WANNA. Be Sensitive hurt. Somebody's feelings. I don't want to say it. That's whatever for whatever reason, even if I could say, well, you know goes back to the fourteenth century. That's stupid. If your feelings hurt your feelings I won't say it. That's fine I. It's not like we don't. We have a dearth of good phrases and terms. And Open Your Komo is sexist. Is that yes, okay, yeah, because you're saying reveal. Something is for women to reveal her body to you I, see technically a Geisha or ray. Wearing there's there's there's both sexist and racist overtones and. Said Yeah, if I said, that's opening the hatch in the long johns. Would that be okay? Yeah. I'm just looking. That's like that's like well. Leo took down his. Face, BASK I. I I. It's Okay and I admit I'm an old guy and. Our time is gone, but we learned, and we're and I'm learning, but I love language, and a sometimes I love a you know a trenchant fraser a salty. Thing that conjures up an image. I'm never gonNA say the Komodo thing again I promise unless I slip, but if I if I slip, you know you heard that before. That it was. No Maybe I had a one notch. Yeah, I have I try not to use that. It's the same thing as like gypped. I tried to. There's a lot of. One, I had learned. Not to use them, because maybe we didn't thinking about it. but I never ever would have seen the derivation of that once once pointed out. Oh! Yeah same here I was like. Oh, I had. Hopes. We learn. Yeah, we have all hey, and like you say we learned from it. Yeah, some of US moved on. True I was like I. Didn't I didn't regret? Losing the word I was just like Oh crikey. and. What about Huck Finn? What about Huck Finn Leo so marked? I don't think Mark Twain was a racist I. Don't know I grew up in an era of racism in he grew up in era and wrote a representation of what the air was this no different and I'm going to roasted, but this statement, but as no different from are famous hip hop artists industry of south central La just right in the story based on exactly what they live in Louis I. Agree with you. So. And, so he learned about the N. Word quite liberally. In fact, it's the name of one of the characters in Huck Finn and a lot of high schools. Grapple with I would think it's a teaching moment that you don't cut it out. But you say well, let's talk about what that is. Let's talk about. Why does he? May. Not Have. A student read out loud from that portion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I still by the way I would want to give them. Yeah, did you know found out recently? Mark Twain almost went bankrupt. Inventing or investing in a competitor for the lineup type. I did know that. Do you know that? Type. Is that a typewriter? Stacey Stacey also. Hold on. Let me go. Know. I feel. The. Stacy's favorite thing on earth. Oh, okay, I know what it is now. Okay. Courtesy Fast Company. List of phrases not to use in business. Open! The KOMO is number one. Oh Shop! Yeah. No can-do. Oh. Yeah okay I got it I. got from an era where Chai it was a racist kind of Chinese. Fun of the way Chinese spoke. Same thing longtime, no see. Pidgin English from native American origins longtime no see. Oh I didn't know that one. Yep, drink the KOOL aid because of Jim Jones. I mean having lost a friend Jonestown from the examiner. Yes, that one. Bothered when you hear, people say that bothers you. It brings up a memory something. That's the thing. Saying that by the way, it was flavor aid, not kool aid because they were cheap bastards. And in fact, you're saying. Drink the KOOL aid. You are actually explicitly invoking. Guests that. I mean it's just it's. It's it's you know it's what you say about a cult member. They drank the KOOLADE. So i. add the stories that the examiner that led to the trip. Tone. And My you know we've lost over Tiger for Greg down there and Tim writer men was shot down there and I remember Jim Woolsey the editor. The paper were the managing editor. To have to go down and coverage down to go down and cover this Oh yeah, these are these are. And then a week later, we all worked in a week later. I lost my friends most milk. Oh my God. That was a battle. Stands Albo and I get it I. Don't I never I've never scolded. May for say it I wouldn't do that? Because it's very personal to me and most people just wouldn't see that as. Offensive. So I kinda guy. But I just but I personally. It brings back things a little little either well. Yeah and you -At's explicitly what you're invoking so I will try not to. It's hard to remember all these okay. This one grandfather clauses augist now as an actually no here it is it it is. It's came from reconstruction. In the south to allow potential white voters to circumvent literacy. Whole taxes and other tactics used. Southern Blacks from voting. Dole Idea Zeros? Contracts to the whites were grandfathered in. Because, they were they were GRANDPA's, and they didn't know how to read, but that's okay because they were white. Unbelievable. Interesting, you know see. It just shows there's a lot of this. Again that's in a lot of contracts today, a lot of contract sure. I've used all these phrases many times I'm gonNA have to stop. I will try not to. Again you know I also and I've been schooled not to. Occasionally, we'll do my impressions of various accents. And like the Indian accent for the tech support, Guy and I've been told and I don't do it anymore, but I kind of miss it. s such. Is Okay for you to keep your Scottish accent and your your Frenchaccent. What's the difference. I don't know I just. You know if somebody tells me. He's Scottish accent and a French accent. No, no, no. Doing Abu from the simpsons and or doing, you know Scottish Guy, talk about great golf is what's the difference I don't know? Cheese eating surrender. Monkeys I'm remember that it's important. Yes, it's important. To remember that, even though we're limiting our options, th the language is infinitely rich. and honestly as a writer, aren't you always looking to avoid the cliche anyway, so let's finds years a fascinating story. Here's a really fascinating story. There saw today, but we got on Rutgers University and their English department as part of their adjustments is going to stop emphasizing standard English Grammar. and. The Guy who organized Harper's letter went that Shit. Sorry bad poop over signed on oddly enough John mcwhorter watts where I was just saying so. I said by Tweet said you might want to ask your fellow signer their quarter, who constantly talks about how language flexible we have to respect all these these versions of languages and not get our knickers nuts. Can I say that? Knickers knickers. Knickers is an email. Or I have actually used the phrase panties in a twist. On live television. It was a moment that I. Wish I could undo but Oh, my Gosh! Do. You wish! You could actually see I think I. said Panties in a bunch I, said something about at and T. not get your panties in A. At I just stopped. And I was like I wear to go here, but. It sounds. Just keep. I actually and I wreck. I will recommend to anybody you've recommended are what is it? Our fabulous bastard tongue, magnificent bastard tongue, which mcquarters book about English, but I I read his book and I thought it was really good on black English. And I can't remember the name, but it was really really. I opening and his contention is, it's not on grammatical a lot of people. Ignorant people think it's on ungrammatical. It's far from undermanned. We've talked about this before. It's actually in some ways more complex grammatical than than yesterday English. so I. It's a wonderful book, I really enjoyed it. he's so. He was on TV this morning. We're way off your but it, but it was on TV. I think it was this morning morning Joe. I'm going against the book white fragility. Because well for one thing I always problematic that it's written by a white woman. Right. That's one thing and then the other argument that he was making his. We! He was saying himself as an African. American man. Ourselves so fragile. And I I can't judge this. I cannot judge. There's an argument that's going on. That needs to go on and. Watch it and learn as it goes. Yeah, that's good. Sometimes, it's better just to Say, we. I don't know the dialogue if if it is indeed a dialogue. Wilson this is answer. Wisdom Fountain of Wisdom. This is the book it's on audible I love this book talking back talking black. it's only four hours, but really a great book wonderful, but he's he's really. He delivers his. Arm Yeah. Quarter yeah. Really enjoyed his stuff I, he, they're actually on audible as his great course on language families of the world. It's also just really I disagree with them in Harper's lender, but that's okay, we can just. Interesting signed that, but you know a number of people have since two people at least have since said you know I, I wasn't paying attention. Just it seemed like a good idea, but I didn't really fully once again. We all learn you learn. Yeah, that's the thing you hope you learn. We didn't understand fully the nuances. The the, let's take A. Break because we got. We got to do and thank you. Tol It. Yes, we thank our sponsor and I apologize for people who tuned in hoping that we would tell you what the latest thing from Google is. Google this week. We talk about that and Amazon did their madam a live event perfect. Let's do that next and we're going to talk about. So People Keizo. We are really GONNA come up. So You'll find out we can. CASO is my next show. Twitter. 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It's really really charming and wonderful than sad and all that, too, but that's my heart. Is that machine? Well one more thing that the computer technology completely replaced. Yeah and I was there then I was because the union. I didn't know it was the whole way. I got the computers entire Reagan computers is I was on the midnight shift waiting for somebody to buy die a violent deaths like write about it, and they had these new machines next to us, and I was the kid I'm playing with it. I'm scared of it. They walked around. There were apes around two thousand one and the Obelisk Right I. Play with this so I get the day shift. I'm the guy who knows what a cursor is. And I trained the newsroom in the concept of the cursor. which is which is not an easy concept, folks, and actually has done a concept, and so I didn't realize I was an idiot. I was young and stupid. It was a SCAB system to put pressure on the International Typographical Union to allow computers in so that when? They went on strike. We still publish I didn't know that. Oh, that's interesting. The strike news. That's how I got into. Blogging is all these old people at the magazines. I worked at in the late. Let's see it was two thousand And when I was interning at BusinessWeek in one, thousand, nine Hundred Ninety S. And Yeah. They were they were just like so no Internet. Thirty years from now. Somebody who's GonNa, be Chad cast. No already and I'm guessing. You know that's how I got here because I knew how to use Tick Tock and Leo didn't. That's how I. What do you think the Technology Jeff and I? Will be too old to rock. The so that this kid will say yeah. It's time to move over, so you know. That printing was invented I right I in China and Korea. But then then Gutenberg popularized it and made it work fourteen fifty. Wasn't until around sixteen hundred that essays, modern novels and newspapers were embedded. Right took a long time that long, so imagine how long it's GonNa. Take for for the Internet thing. Before, we see truly creative minds CEO it. This I used that a concept for a long time in my talks saying you know when they first get printing press, all they did was reprint bibles they they saw as a way to get. Keep cake to take the way the job away for the illuminates in the scribes in the monasteries, so they could print bibles all great. It took a long time to figure out there was other things you could do, and I agree, we're kind of at that stage in the Internet, where initially it was brochures and magazines and If you were a TV person you. Major Internet site looked like if your radio person you did podcasts I. Don't know what it's going to be. What's the next is? There was a wonderful threatening for guy named Adam Lens Elian S O N. The really inspired me because he said he's a fear producer. Everybody else is dying to get back in the theater. And he understands that 'cause he's does feeder, but he's pretty said I've found an audience. Fifty thousand people who could watch these musical things created my Lord. I couldn't do that otherwise. And and the way that we could, we can collaborate around the world I'm utilize people. Was this. Was this enthusiasm? I missed for the Internet and happened because of Corona virus writing. Nobody was going to do it, but now it's there, and he's seeing the benefit and others are complaining, but he sees the value and I just loved that spirit. I would sincerely think Kobe is going to change a lot of things. Oh! Yeah. So you remember the Google I O. It was the one thing that was really good about Google I o not. There wasn't on the free phones last year. No. Do you remember last year food. It's a boring kind of talk about it was I. think maybe it was maybe it was the pixel four launch. Was that an I? o I can't remember. kind of a dull. Not Such an interesting presentation, and then all of a sudden this guy. Who is the wizard of computational photography light? Last year Sir this guy it was. We even said at the time. This is so. This was boring. Except for Mark Levin Away Yup former Stanford professor. He came to Google and really is the genus of computational photography. We reported a few months ago that he left Google. Now we know where his next stack it'll be. He's going to adobe. And what's really interesting about this is? He's not going to w make hardware. He's going to a w to make software adobe wants to make. Cameras Software Computational. Photography, Universal Camera App. For us. You probably up on this. Because I know, you're all up on adobe. I think this is big news. Considering I don't particularly care for the cameras built inside of light room mobile at this time, nor the Photoshop. Camera APP I was going to use the the pse you have you have used that? Yeah, yeah, it's not necessarily my thing I think that's something geared more towards the tip top votes in the younger crowd because it's. It adds a lot of extra. Things that I don't think. Make you images looking better? I'll give you an example. Shop Camera. This is actually a really boring photo I took at lavender. Garden was just a terrible photo by putting in the Alps and giant popsicles. I think it's bringing it to bring it to life, don't you think? Sure. Sure boss sure, but what's interesting? Is it new where the horizon was in new where to put the Alps? Is In move the Pie. It's a it's pretty smart. If I show you the original of that picture, you'll say. Oh, yeah, you're right. Here's the original. This is this is such a boring picture. In fact, that's why I picked it to run it through the Photoshop camera because. Kicks at Horizon Line you. Man That's. Uh, doesn't it? Well, I can fix that. We have the. We have the technology just kidding. Please thank you a little horizon line fixing here I'll sleep a little better tonight, but no I I'm glad to see adobe. Making this investment if you will because again the Photoshop Camera, APP is who for a certain crowd. There you go. I, I it. Now you know why. Aunt does hands on photography and not me. I thought the popsicles. I. Mean and then it has. The light room camera at the lousy to shoot raw and long exposures from your phone. Tripod and it would work really good. Some time. Yeah, so. Kudos, this is a heck of a move. Because we saw did with the Pixel four and the picks, four computational photography is really really really good. I was. Easy Yeah. So markle boy congratulations left Google in March after six years, he had actually done the camera. in the glass explorer edition as a visiting. Faculty member at Moon at Google lacks. he was anyway for the. He's really I. I get the sarcasm, but now he's really was genuinely interesting, so he is now going to adobe and so expect some interesting software. is demo was awesome. It's worth re watching. Remember. She showed news. the night site and the and the Astro Astro photography and all that stuff. It's interesting because I would have assumed that an intimate knowledge of the hardware is required to do good computational photography, but maybe not. Maybe it doesn't matter what camera you're using. I think when when I think about like the Astros stuff. is not necessarily thinking about. The hardware is thinking about Geo location and other variables outside of the camera where they is thinking about okay, how can I really make this work? Okay now I could shove this into the hardware and boom. We got. It looks good. What is you know so? Cannon just announced its new mirror Lewis line them live in the are six. Finely going. Canon and Nikon of the old line Mir big DSL Lars with moving mirrors in them, and they were starting to get their lunch eaten. I think a little bit by Sony. It's murless line so Gannon and I always thought. Canon and Nikon will be slow on this because they don't want to cannibalize their very lucrative. Mirror camera business. And they have they were initially a little slow, but this are five looks to be. Probably the best camera Canon makes right. It's certainly competes of the five D I. Don't know if it competes with the one D, But that one is that one is right above right below two one DX if you ask me Because the one DX is just able to do some some things a little more. In extreme locations and industry, M- situation, but this is the size of a of a rock, a quail and the one. Deterred Wendy, attained I. Mean there really is a big difference in size? Yeah, but it has the great weather seal in this are five is pretty high, but personally I'd like to have our six I. I was pretty close to pulling the trigger on Nar six. It's a little less expensive. The are fives thirty nine hundred bucks. What's what's the are six thousand bucks less Dr six is just the thousand. So my reason, I brought that up is. What's missing in this? Is that computational photography? Yeah, this is all about the the physical hardware and the sensor and the processor and the in body image stabilization. And they're not putting I mean I. There is a computer in it, but it seems like they're not really advancing that. Why not. The only advancing that you'll see in it is how tries to process the J. Pigs and make them look prettier Wright. Changed. Temperature Okay and Saturation Dad's about it. You are getting I. I don't know how good cannons will be compared to Sony's. The Sony's are really good at face tracking and I tracking which is really amazing, and they can even do animal eye tracking right which years there since last year's late last year's firmware update from Canon to the US are updated. Their autofocus made it a lot more reliable and faster. Faster, and of course they have iterative on that and put it into the new five and our six and according to reports. It's really really good and a lot faster than before, and and the locks dead on die up watched a couple videos, so I love for some people on Youtube trying to test it out, and it was. It was pretty good right here. In my seven are four, it's just remarkable, so, but nevertheless the whole idea of the of the software and the Pixel for. Is that you have essentially a tiny sensor kind of a junkie censor relatives to something like this right. That's a full frame sensors I don't know how many hundreds of times bigger. Because of computational photography, you get remarkable images. What would it be like if they apply that same capabilities to an incredible sensor like this? Probably more expensive. Data. Is there not censor I? Mean how much harder to have to do all that. Yeah that's a good point. You'd be a lot more processing, but really what this? I mean in order to do that. When the Pixel, they take nine images right. Emily quickly gather a lot of data intentionally twelve megapixel cameras, so they're getting before hundred eight megapixel Ze. Yeah, is it? Was it possible because these were smaller sensors and smaller cameras? Mom was more likely for the innovation to happen here. On expensive cameras. It's kind of counterintuitive. For that reason with additional. Costs though gotta think about cost. Who all of the where? To handle all of that process and power again because you've got this. Big thirty five millimeter sensor, pulling all disaster light into process. That's that's a lot of data that are five can shoot up to eight K.. Resolution S A lot of data to process. Right I were getting close I. Mean, this is. This this phone is as a thousand dollar phone. It's only a quarter of the cost of the five he's. you know that's an interesting question. Certainly, the processors in here are fast in the process in modern cameras, but we talked about this on my instagram today. I try to do if you ain't follow me on instagram. Why Not Follow me over there? I, just did a a livestream. Just Chit Chat with the people that follow me and we talked about this today because. Samsung apple and Google they're making photography friendly for everybody, and allowing you to literally pick your phone up and hit the button. One time and she's got a pretty good shot. someone mentioned in the comments they said you know. I went from smartphone photography to buy an ESA lawrence shooting and I was way better on my smartphone for a while. Yeah, because it's so much easier. Yeah, yeah. Makes a lot of sense. I just I was I was wondering so we'll see I mean mark. Why didn't mark void go to Nikon or Canon? Maybe they could've used him better, but certainly adobe is trying to find ways to stay relevant in a world where there's a lot more competition for the creative cloud than ever before Oh. Yeah, Oh, yeah, let's take a little break. Come back with more. PRUITT's here. 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No we have stacy's. Thanking breaking. Tesla moving to Texas well now they're just opening. Factor well I. You know I. Don does not is not fond of Alameda County right now. I could. Be, fun to Austin. We'll see. GonNa jobs and Travis County. That's good. That's great. Yeah, would you buy another Tusla Stacey? I would lease and other Tesla, I'm not gonNA. Let eons weirdness, get in my way of it being car I. Always get ally way. I did. I did because. It wasn't him. You just didn't like the car. I love my Model X. Lisa. Didn't that's she didn't? Mama happy in nobody. Yeah, it was a combination of factors, but that was one of it was my car. She didn't have to like it. I said if you don't like, don't drive it. She because she said the car would attack her. Yeah, but I always felt a little nervous, running autopilot, and so forth and I. Just you know what the final Straw was for me. And maybe they've fixed by. Now was the long lead time on repair parts. I'd heard stories. Worse Oh. I'd heard stories about people whose windshield broken, and they couldn't drive the car because for months because they never placements. So that's not good. Anyway. I'm either getting now. Okay, their throats. Some monkey wrenches my way. I really was excited about the Ford Mustang Machi right now. This new Volvo pollstar. Two cents pretty sweet, too. So I, don't know. I don't know what you're still planning on. The must something electric by the end of the year one or the other? It's going to be a little tune in in December to see what happens. Yes, exciting. When's your lease ran out on Your Model X. amount of less. So I actually purchased mine, Oh, see so why we never used cars. well, the technology and I tried to convince my husband that a least would be better in this case, but he is a hard. We buy it. We own it till it. Would on our cars for eleven or twelve years and then. That's what I would do to is bought my cars. But at least convinced me that there's tax benefits to leasing as a company car. So. We hadn't explored that. It was more just with technology buying a car Nicoletta sense anymore. Well that was that was. The other concern is especially in the early days of Tesla. This is the first model. X.. What about battery life? What's that going to be like? How is it worth? You know. Can you but I think now I would say that that car would go forever. Someone driving the twentieth thirteen model. It now my battery life is fine. That's not what's breaking down, but things like I mean it's. It's a three G tar Yeah, yeah, so. To. See that's the problem, so we interviewed Oh, I can't remember his name. Who wrote the book about Elon Musk about tests, he said the real thing is not a car companies, a software company, and so the development cycles that technology cycles are much more the life cycle of software than they are of a car because a car is you know it's a ten year takes five years design on the market for a decade. You own it for a decade software upgrade every five minutes, and that's much more with the Tesla's like. And, since technology, Russia's along faster than cars. Do I think it's an issue? Does, hd HD At, no does hd editor have a Subaru wrx from two thousand and one. That's also. That is an amazing Car Dad bought it. My brother stole it from him, and now he will still offer to buy it off really. Hd under chat room. My soobee two thousand one. My is so good. Hey, they used to run to rally car races, but those cars light, but both my ex wife and my son both on sue bees that love their Subaru's. Being in the Pacific Northwest, that is my next car. 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Work, so this is you know this is a a government thing? It'll be the US digital service, which by the way our good friend Mac cuts is the administrator of. The US Digital Service Academy. At a credited degree awarding university that trains, students digital skills like cybersecurity and artificial intelligence. I think that's great. Year was like Google Google last week announced one hundred thousand scholarships to train people for. Data analytics project management. Do you ex? So as a as somewhere university should I be nervous know. Why. because. They're competing with us now well. No. That's a capitalistic way of looking at it. Think about this well. I am that if you want to keep the United States on the cutting edge. We've always said this. Education's critical and and we gotta we. Should that? Okay, and they're being protectionist. Action Right now. Cuny's very good, but we could have more. Well and especially I would say especially if these are government funded with with the goal of adding diversity to the workplace, which was Google certainly is yeah. Need Yeah based on need. encourage black. Young men and women encourage women in general I think it would be a really great idea because I think it's there's. In my mind? That's the kinds of things government should do. Is Really Foster education because it helps the economy in the long run I can tell you we need money right now. We're suffering. Well and. Kids competitive to to people like you, though it feels like it's not a four year school, because I teach something useless and. Crisis of journalism in the United States. We're not. I think it's it's okay there are there are a lot of H. One B. Journalists being brought in. I have several friends in the journalism world. I have. Four of probably the hundred people I've worked with so I guess it's not a huge percentage, but who were here on Be. Interesting! I want to say HP ones, but I saw the The stats for H. ONE BS. It's a huge percentage like almost half of them go to. Go to Google and facebook Google. That's the. Story last week. About the Indian castes, coming to Google was fascinating. that. There's discrimination within Google. One cast to another and the Americans don't really have a sense of what's going on. Oh yeah, this was crazy this actually. College. I had A. One I grew up in Houston. Huge Indian American Indian native like. Immigrant community and so this was actually something that. HAPPENED LIKE In my high school, a little bit, but in college it was a big deal in the dorm I lived in. It was like totally under anybody's radar. Who was an Indian? State of California this month sued Cisco. Alleging discrimination based on India's caste system. An engineer face discrimination because he was in the Dalit Class W was it wasn't Kugler with. CISCO, maybe that Dalits are, you may remember the more as the term untouchables, which is not. I guess no longer I is the caste system. Still around. I didn't even know yeah. Yeah, this is the. Of It it's still people still try to draw it out of you. They try to ask things, said the story. Like I have a friend who was in the Brahmin, the the priestly caste and he would he would let you know. We would tease him about it because we thought it was absolutely hilarious, but it was actually very important to. To men who were Cisco Supervisors and Higher Castes. are named in the suit for discriminating in again against an harassing the lower caste employees, he lower caste employees received less pay and fewer opportunities. He could he opposed unlawful practices contrary to the traditional order, but the twin the Dalit higher higher castes. The defendants retaliated against him. Well that's an interesting cultural by the way. Apologize wasn't the GOODWILL WITH CISCO That's an interesting. Data s good stuff. Yeah, if you if you hang out with people. Who are Indian for a long enough? These things like you, you find them out littlest size and things, I will never, you can never underestimate the human ability to discriminate on the stupidest of premises. It's amazing. We am and it's just feels like it's built in somehow in some weird way into our. You said what I was thinking. Another thing just another thing and they're all fictions. The. Irish hated the Italians. The Jews hated the Irish. I mean it's just it's just nonstop. Just ridiculous. Think I'll just grew up to be dog instead of a human. Everybody. Signed, but dots have strong feelings about other dogs. If you encounter, they're very snug well. Everybody hates dachshunds. I mean that's just. Don't sure I was. No arrived. Hey. Loved them. Tanks Sergeant. Meanwhile, speaking of ridiculous things. Amazon or The is going after. And Siri and company Yeah for antitrust yeah. Why the fact that they've gone on for so many means that there's a lot means that there's not antitrust antitrust right. Right three. They're not just going after, so let us be clear. Okay if you insist. LACERRA. Is Not good for Ratings Okay So. They're going after the digital assistance, there are three. They're also lots of companies that want to get into this including big ones like Samson. who weren't able to and the bad? Sucked in. Hold on hold on hold on. Okay okay. The E U One looks at competition a bit differently from the US. We have to remember that they look at not just. Are you hurting the consumer? But they also look at ease of entry from another from other people into the market, and there they do have kind of case because you have market or network effects for. the number of devices or the developer ecosystem for these things you also in their questions are actually more around like. Does the data aggregation that these companies get by virtue of being number one preclude others from winning in this market or ever coming to fight in this market, and I think that's actually a really interesting and relevant question that we should be asking. You. The e you really is willing to weigh in to what here in the United. States would say well at the markets decide. Well the market is not doing the best job at a lot of things and I'm just gonNA. Leave it there. That the market's not doing a bad job of picking winners invoice assistance, but you're right. The market is not doing a good job. Infected Fosters data acquisition. We. Don't have any viable well. We don't have competitive viable options that protect our privacy. Weird not actually having a good discussion about things like interoperability between these platforms until those platforms actually came to the table on their own because they were like. Oh, we're not selling enough to people, so yes, in that way. The market was like Oh. Maybe interoperability matters, but I would argue that. You know. There never in these legislated interoperability between MAC and windows. Interoperability a part of this whole ship alliance. Came! That's what I'm talking about is. They came up with that last December because they were disappointed that the market was not adopting smart home stuff they're like. Oh my gosh. Well and that's what I said. That's the market work. The terms of that market are being dictated by the leaders as opposed to the incumbents in New People with ideas, so you could argue that once you're at the top year. Just dictating the terms of the market, everyone I would love to see somebody. Come up with some sort of privacy protecting. well digital assistants the idea of Syrian Apple. It's. Difficult to do because the more I know about you better, my assistant will be your assistant won't be. But there there I think apple. Apple seen the market value of becoming the privacy leader, right? Dental. It was completely because they. Couldn't do the ad right, but they made lemonade out of lemon and it's. Not a scribe. Virtue this. You're still locking people into the high priced apple ecosystem that has historically been not friendly to any outsiders rate, and if you're a developer working within the apple ecosystem, you actually had to deal with some onerous terms of. They've started to walk some of them back. You do have to give up your if you're in the APP store if you're thirty percent. Again I think. The market is weighing in on that as well. So. I think around things like privacy data retention penalties for. Not Leaks hacks in. Sharing People's date religious, thank you. I think that the government has a role to play there and I think they've a abdicated that role for a decade or more I have been so outlook I am not the anti-government, no government, low government guy, and never have been, and even more now we're seeing the value of a coherent government in in some situations. That's very clear, but I have to say the government's intervention in technology has historically. Not, been well. It's been heavy-handed. It's not that it's been wrong and then late. Late the late negatively, but you know I mean look what the government is trying to do. Is Ban encryption right now? You know what I mean I. It's I don't I. Don't want the government to get. I agree a sane rational government as an expression of the will of the people. Would say something about privacy, but I don't think I think that I don't know it's. It's not that we should try and talk them into it, but it seems futile, and it's just 'cause government also is is such a mismatch between the pace of innovation and technology and the pace of legislation governing. We say this, but we could move faster. And we could be better, should we? Just we shouldn't I mean there's good reason for government to be slow. There is good reason for government to be slow right now I. Think we're a little too slow I. also think that we're. We just shrug our shoulders and we're like. It's kind of like systemic racism in the sense like we're like who we should do something about it I. Agree but we have to start by saying you know there ought to be government law what we have to start by doing is getting money out of politics so that these incumbents cannot influence the law. Stomach problem goes so low that we got to fix that before you can say well. I think government could solve these privacy issues. Yeah, they could in a perfect world as I said if if government reflected the will of the people agree that we need to wait for the world to be perfect, you can actually see pushback from citizens, groups and privacy groups pushing back against industry. Industry and yes, WE'RE GONNA. Get compromises, and not everyone's going to be happy, but it's a start in from there. You can look at court cases you can come back and have you can appoint people to Regulatory Commission's that oversee this to actually take action. You know there's a lot of flexibility that will come in once. We have a law even if that law isn't perfect well. That's a good point in the California privacy. Act, which is now rolling out started. July, first we're starting to see some I think beneficial effects from it. It started January actually. They decided to start forcing it on. The! Da said he would start enforcing it as of July first right. I. Know Quibble that it's worth well. Nobody's paid attention to it until this month. All of a sudden I'm noticing some effects. You paid attention to it. And as a Californian, I paid attention, actually the guy who came up with it, I think you told me this. The guy who came up with it and was defeated by the legislature. This go God. No, we can't let you do this is back. He had made a deal. Okay, I'll take my initiative off the ballot since you're going to do it. Legislature did their thing and I guess he's not happy because it's back on the ballot in November. And it's a very. It's a much more draconian privacy. I should look into it, so I know how to vote I just ask you. Would you do that for me, stacey? Combat I have to look at it anyway. He He. Let me see see begin Look it up. It's coming in November. Way No you're talking about. The IT'LL BE. One of our fabulous propositions is the one. Yeah California Personal Information Law. An Agency initiative prop twenty four. Expand! The State's consumer data privacy laws, including provisions to consumers to direct businesses, not to share their personal information removes the time period in which businesses can fix violations before being penalized and create in other words. Do it right now and creates remind Mrs. Yeah, well creates. The Privacy Protection Agency to enforce the State's consumer privacy laws. Yeah, so it's it's A. IT'S A it's. It's even more extreme. It's just this is. We don't like the big companies and we're going to go after we're. GonNa. Find another way to go after them. What does it really add protection? It's not there. This Alistair McTaggart now can I use a Scottish accent for him? No lawless that about tiga. San Francisco's not Scottish with a name like Alistair, McTaggart which. Is? Just go based on real estate developer. He filed this ballot initiative back in twenty eighteen. It was withdrawn after the California state legislature passed it. McTaggart. Joy Here Leo I. I, I enjoy that accent. So that's the problem it feeds to me, yeah! He said. The CCPA of twenty. Is a great baseline, but I think that additional rights Californians to serve you too good guys are Shea is the only thing I wanNA. Make sure to. Undo the act. There's basically. Resources on one side of the fight. If you do anything the win eventually, so you know I don't you know? I sounds like hearts in the right place. You could correct inaccurate personal information on request. You can obtain permission. You have to obtain permission from a parent or Guardian before obtaining information about kids younger than thirteen. We've always had that. Those those are in GDP are yeah. Obtaining working dated from consumers who are younger than sixteen, so they're going to expand that provide consumers with an opt-out option for having their sensitive personal information as defined in law used or disclosed for Advertising Marketing Fair enough. and businesses may not share a consumer's personal information. If the consumer so requests. It seems like that's already. In the CPA. I thought so yeah. Some of those things the CCPA is not all of that. There is now there would be if this passes and. I expect it will a California, Privacy Protection Agency. and Oh. Here's the thing it removes the ability of businesses to fix violations before being penalized, so there's no warning. That that I think is ridiculous is. You're GONNA be penalized. You did it. We're trying. We're trying trying to see you slip appeal, is you? What's the point of the law? The point is to get the right behavior. So if you got the right behavior that should be success. 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Didn't work, and they lost a lot of money and they're trying. They're thinking IPO. They're thinking sale, but this is the really interesting story and you know I don't know how much. This rumor is real. I don't know what the regulatory. No I know there I know that that's what Softbank is doing with arm, but the rumor is. INVIDIA is actively. US seeking to acquire this is interesting because Invidia does have an arm license and in Videos The GUT THE MONEY They have the money they don't have. An application processor business, which is arms big business right now arm is arms chip designs. It doesn't actually make chips. It only designs them in license them now to the ways in various businesses well, isn't it? Okay, there are, there are a fabulous semiconductor FABS okay when you're fabulous, you you designer and chips, so invidia does design its own GP. It has its own architectures for those and then it contracts out to have the manufacturer arm actually does not design a chip. They design the architecture and they licensed that out to companies. Who designed the actual chip? Then those get. That's that's what arm does. The arms architecture has competed for ever. Since the early nineties. Thank you sometime in the nineties. It's forever that. As he was about a year old. Yeah! Her over to be, it's yesterday but go ahead. And they were actually designed. Apple actually was out apple Acord, where one of the founding this right creators in funders of the original arm architecture was designed to be lower power, and for general purpose compute Intel on the other hand was like we will be us, and we will suck all the power. We will be like powering. You're PC's and that worked for a while and then arm Cape Up win. smartphones became big. They had the bow power for any battery powered devices. They also made microcontrollers, which are in the Internet of things, and so that's why Softbank. Botham softened bought them because they saw that power consumption power was not the big issue. Power consumption was in arm has luck on that? until trying, they're not going anywhere and there's also the rise of graphics chips so with. If you look at Invidia, they have the hottest silicon for. Super High End. Ai took computing rate graphics processors. They can run a bunch of those inside supercomputers. Blah Blah Blah so they've got the power on lock. Arm Has the power savings outlook so getting invidia arm together as kind of like leaving until kind of in this Middle Gray area where. I don't know where that's GonNa. Be Awesome or not So it makes sense. It would not cause the scrutiny like an Intel arm collaborated. Because you know the two architectures, the be very anti-competitive, I would assume it also would possibly cause less consternation in the industry because. Arm Licenses. There's chips to Apple Amazon Google. Intel probably has license I. Don't know QUALCOMM INEX- P everybody in the chip industry so if one other company bought. Arm they'd be like super competitive. You'd be like Oh, I don't want that so invidious kind of interesting, because they don't have a lot of head to head competition and the graphics base except for Intel. One of them. And by the way, this story is from Bloomberg Mark Gherman among others, and of course we know him well from his apple, reporting for Bloomberg. One of the reasons this is credible is as Softbank. Did used to own a fairly big chunk of four billion dollar stake in arm. I'm not an arm and Invidia I'm sorry, so they do have a relationship with them video. They no longer hold any of video stock. Apparently, also the reason arm sold to Invidia back in two thousand sixteen I'm sorry. The recent armed sold the Bang Bang Away Money Sixteen. Is because Softbank wasn't considered in the space. It wasn't a competitive. So it was it was a logical sale because there was no regulatory issue with Softbank Owning them, I think there be more regulatory issue. I mean at least videos in the same businesses arm. But you're right there. It's not anti competitive, most neutral of people who have arm in sees. Also Approach Apple. That's maybe where Mark Gherman came in on this story but apple I don't think was interested. Apple does not. Too likely to make money or lose money on this deal, they'll make money. They bought it for thirty two billion. And it's probably go for one hundred billion I would guess. Maybe. There's a lot. There's a lot of upside to arm now. That apple's going to be. Okay right. Well Apple has been a licensing fee for a long time they I mean. The IPHONE has an arm based application processor in it and has forever, and then they took an architecture license to build their own bionic or whatever they're calling. Their chips so putting it in the book. That's just kind of like we. We knew that was gonNA happen. Eventually. Right I I'd. Say It is a big deal. You're right, obviously is not apples. Noodle arm said they found him, but it's a big deal because it's now going to be in desktop computing, also we see other moves to putting it in servers into showing some weakness, and I think that arm has a big upside well, maybe not hundred billion, but I think our. Arm has been playing for servers and they're finally just starting. They've been playing. That game sits twenty ten right? Okay, so it's ten years in the making for them to actually get anywhere and they're just starting. They're just starting to get the software inside. The challenge for arm is actually going to be risk five. Is a new architecture that is open source architecture. That's coming out and we're seeing companies. Come back to arm and say hey, you know those licensing fees I think there are a little high. We're evaluating during a risk sign processor. That arm has been raising its licensing fees. I know and that's. That's the squeezed for cash, so I think it's. I also think there's a synergy. The market will see a real synergy if with INVIDIA. Because, Invidia doesn't have on ironically use the word center on Ironic I think this is one of the places where it's safe to use. Let's open the Komo and take a look cool. Arm Actually has a graphics processor they. Don't have a CPU. They don't have a general purpose processor. So. Our. Process in video, doesn't Invidia? Doesn't I'm sorry so? Energy. I think invidia and well videos. Big Business lately has been a which is a separate thing from what arms doing i. Has the power that's arm. Has the power energy exactly right I? I think it's conceivable that video where? We look. We got a wounded player here. We got Intel limping around I think invidious sees. This is a big opportunity to to really jump way ahead so. I think you're going to have a high premium on this, but that's just me. I'm not exactly what happens to the all the licensing. The arm has done. Shut that offer. How they make money. Doesn't make money. They wouldn't be an truthfully. Maybe it isn't as valuable because they wouldn't be getting any intellectual property. They don't already license have access to yeah. They just become the collector of the license fees. But I think that there I think it's worth more than thirty two billion. I think it might might be to exit if not three X. Two X out what else thinking? It's still a pretty hefty payday, yeah! Nice pay earned. They need it. How much did they lose on? We worked you now. Pass Oh Read off. A six point five billion dollar loss. Right so you know sixty million profit on. Going to make up for that well, wait a minute as seventeen point seven billion dollar loss when you combine uber. Sprang. A hundred dollar one hundred billion dollar fund the Vision Fund and they lost seventeen percent, almost eighteen percent of their value on two of their investments. Lakes. That's a record one point, three six annual operating loss, and then here's a great picture of Masayoshi Sun. The graph. You Never WanNa see Politicians never wear a hat. Yeah, never stand in front of. The Ero. Truthfully this slide is unfair because you can see that there's more to it. There's a minus sign still, and there's an equal sign, but allstone stand there don't stand their boss. They should have. Sunshine plays. Please so yeah. Interesting. Interesting. Do! You think there'd be regulatory issues with an nvidia acquisition of arm. I don't know it depends on how they look at the chip market. I'm guessing still pretty competitive. Yeah, I don't think so i. mean the issue really is? How will arms customers how many of them will look at Nvidia and feel threatened and then? Turned to their own processor well and they and it may be those customers who yell and scream saying we don't want to. We don't want to be. We! Don't think videos a good steward for these licenses. Did. You know that Kosovo. Is must be your story. It is I just found it. Fascinating was from the Evans Newsletter Yeah. I we actually. I thought we had talked about this before we didn't. I didn't know that maybe not. Tell me if you remember this. That a couple of years ago. Electric clocks in Europe began falling behind. They lost three months in January three minutes in January three minutes in February. In March. The brussels-based European network of transmission system operators of electricity. It shouldn't apology. The reason these clocks are tied to the cycle the sixty hertz cycle. Or, maybe in Europe it's fifty I don't know what the cycle is in in the US, sixty hertz and so electric clocks in countries. Count on that. Regular cycle, but two time themselves. 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No no case I just found an interest that there's no logo space that you're going to have a a place where logos become verified and okay everybody the next story. You know. There are places I see. I keep getting. Like banks to this where they say okay, this is your image. If you try to log onto this bank and you don't see. This image is not your bank. That's right is that? Does that do anything first of all? Not Unless there's an intermediary, that confirms the Image Yeah I, don't you? Remember your image is a spoon, always a spider, right? Yeah, you got to remember that. and. Then you're supposed to note the next time you go to the bank if you don't see the spoon. It's not your bank. Does that work? No I can never remember my image like it. I like it. Do you remember your? Book full of the images that you're supposed to look for not every not every site does that, but I like the idea of just trying to make you think twice about hidden log in at typed in your credentials into into some mysterious feel especially with all of the fish. Okay. I think this is kind of like that. Google is going to use. And Trust. Descartes indigenous to see as. to to verify. The these images. It's called. Be I M I? It's technology beamy. Brand indicators for messages identification. it'll make recipients more confident about the source of the email. I think it's the same I hear like you see an image. Yeah, yeah, oh, that was built. The logo is is. There are the logo. What's the CNN logo there? Nobody could steal that. I don't get it. Yeah I. Understand. The center, it's individualized I. Think you're right. I think there must be underlying code data goes vallon recognize yes, this more than just that image because I can easily copy and paste this image right look. I got it right here. so must be more than that, but That's interesting. Yeah, you're right. That's an interesting. Moderately dry three things in the change loan and you're mad at me. All area one twenty tried to help is a new way to shop online. It's not only. Is it fun? It's entertaining. It's called shop loop. Let's, let's watch. It's TIKTOK for shovels. You type shop loop dot at. Face Cream. Shows TIKTOK. And then you by are these ads. They're like influencers saying Oh. This on. Seems to be very focused on makeup. I will volunteer to do this with Bluetooth ear buds. For what's the face pass. On shop loop. Okay. How long because the last? I find it annoying, but then I'm not. Audience for this video shopping platform Amazon's kind of doing this to you know that you can do is an influence, or you can do us a shopping stream on Amazon. They have home shopping now, yeah! So I think this is Google's response. Google APPS. End To end navigation is built in bike. Share locations now New Yorkers are going to love this because the city by a lot of cities now have. Built I says. I want to go from here to there. Okay? Walk from here to there. Then you get the bike and then take it to their where the bike. Walk again perfect. Yeah, because you have to know where to get the bike and where to leave the bike, and that's a really good, so it'll be in Chicago New York, San Francisco Washington DC. London Mexico City Montreal. Rio, Sanpaolo and Taipei. That's cool. That's really cool. All Right Glow Charlotte. Charlotte. Are you. Are you disappointing? Armless surprised. This Charlotte is a city by city Oh. Yes, okay, well. Maybe they'll expand that. A lot of use it as bike stare. At least they used to new tools on search on your mobile device can help you find a mortgage few type in mortgage. You will get more information about mortgages. You will get a whole see the tabs at the top rates refinance processes could use news relief. This is nice. This is financial information from trusted source google. They even have a mortgage calculator at that. Built I do like that SORTA tremendous fat for all of the information out there because it can be quite overwhelming for someone. Trying to get into the first time, so I wonder if they'll be doing more of this. This is bull as you. After you do the search you'll get. The search results at the bottom of the page. You'll get a more information. Cut Up like a knowledge graph with tools that you can use to. Get more information about mortgage. That's interesting. That's a good idea, yeah! Would you like to become part of a global documentary. Produced by Ridley Scott. Life I've read the monster. This is actually not a new idea You know you. We all know day in the life right That's great photo series. my friend oh. It's wonderful photographer just down the road of peace and Sausalito. Did. there was a whole bunch of day in the life. books now there and I think they've even done this on youtube I feel like. So on July twenty fifth three days from the day. We're taping. This X. Poland Rick Smullen. That's who I was thinking. Yeah! To. Rick's Great. Isn't he? Wonderful? Yeah Really Love Rick. so this is you know his idea and the day in the life books were great. but this is now with video so coming Saturday. Film Your Day. You could be part of a global. His documentary all of us at home. It's not going to be that interesting. No! Depends on the home. On the home, and so yeah interest, so they're going to get a ton of footage. Which is going to be? Challenging. But. It will be a time capsule of the worst year in the world ever in history. There's filming requirements and how you can take part. you'll need to comply with. There's appearance releases. Warms up. No, you don't need to read. You need to read. Read says kidding you gotTa, get permission film aloke. Some locations don't film, Trademarks or protective works do not use music. Of course tonight we'll take down the google things right know how personal formation be collected using shared, so just learn about data protection. Be careful and don't break the law and. People that are used to submitting stock photography. Video, this would be a breeze today. That's because it's the same would. You'd be interested in doing this. If I had a fascinating life, sure, but we all know my life's pretty born. Don't you think that people? Jazz it up for stuff like this. yeah, most most people do take a naked picnic and. Grab your smartphone different from the folks on Instagram live air quotes their best flyer best you. It says you might record a typical day going to connect with family being with friends or maybe something special happening Saturday your wedding day, or you have important news. You're having a baby. You could show US lockdown in your city. This is kind of cool. How much footage are they gonNA get. Well. The I'll sift through it nobody deal. If you're footage on what faces footage is used in. The final film will contact you later in the year. We got a shirt. No you'll just you just know that you were in a life in a day not to be just a collection of logs. Collects. With gooding. Pretty Amazing Right. Stacy are you losing steam? I am losing steam. Not. Super Interested in video documentary. Just for you, okay, that's school change logging. Case does calling I. Spell the case he says taking over TIKTOK. Grilled I wonder what's your expert, but don't you put some of this? started other chains like I can't stay. She'll lose it. All you so this is what we're talking about. Is, yes is the video from the Meat Church. So there. You gotTA listen to what they're doing here. Okay. Put My sand on here. Twenty ounces of fresh Jodi, so sausage took it out of its casings and fried in a skillet until it was nice and crispy and. Eight ounce block of both pepper Jack and shutter three chops, Alabanian, one diced red onion, the Jodi, so one whole block of L. Vida Two cups of shredded Monterey Jack Two cups of shredded cheese Mexican and one ten ounce can of Serano Rotel gotTa have retail peppers. Right Stacey. Rotel makes the case so Adele make a case. Stacey Seal of approval. So far anyway drained and then I put it on my Weber Keto with some Begonia the. Night. So that the smoke would melt the cheese and wants the cheese started to melt ice sturdy altogether until it was completely combined, and I cooked covered until it was nice and smooth like this, and it turned out so amazing it would be the perfect appetizer for barbecues. Tremendously too much for barbecues, but CASO in chips in general, just delicious to this Renault that what about? The barbeque that's what's taken over Tiktok Barbara. This is the thing. You know maybe that's because of that. Meet Church video certainly got my attention. Laura Gill has made it. She said wasn't that smokey so. Over my head. You got a smoker and you could do it. Oh No, no, no, no I don't have. Yet, but there's video was all over my head. I'm thinking. What's new about that? So Mike Mass? Nick? Good friend says it's hysteria. All of this anti tiktok sentiment there is. A moved by some of the TIKTOK investors in the US to bring it to the US to buy it away from the Chinese from bite dances. Chinese. Owners. What do you think? I I really do enjoy that people are trying to be creative, very creative tiktok it's. Time Man, but The song covers is what throws me off? I like when I see the things outside of people just lip synching a song Something else. Talks Big Instagram is into instagram's copy. Copy talking to real little lunch and August music so Tiktok they bought musically, and that's what musically was. It was a bunch of twelve kids, girls and some boys lift singing. Yeah that makes sense and so that's why it's so bad i. mean historically. That's the platform. was people being silly lip synching Song, was it? Nothing. So yeah, we just have to. Come by and honest, we should rested away from them and make it America. Doubt that I. Think is stupid, but okay. That's all right. That's my specialty. Wow. There's a lot of extra stuff here. What's the deal with this limited edition pairing featuring a box? House wine, not not. Cheddar must be a carson cheddar cheese crackers has to be karston yeah okay, thank you. Oh I have the Kansas House Wayne. We use them on our little When I need so bottle of wine. No. No, this is A. This is like my cooking tip. If because sometimes I don't WanNa be drinking because you know how I was like. Oh, I'm so down because of the pandemic I'm GonNa. Stop Drinking is. Happier. If, you do the Cana wine. You don't feel bad about throwing it away when you're like done or you use game. drinking. Yeah, sometimes I'll drink lake altering it because you know you can't always mix white wine with the fizzy water, and then you've got to Spitzer, and it's perfectly fine, this is. This is from the. Phenomenal website called laughing squid. Where else would you find acute compilation of cats with lettuce on their heads? and. And there's a fifteen minutes of this by the way cats with. Lettuce on their. Cats to sit still with lettuce on. Let us has a soothing. Very sleepy up. I've had enough I'm leaving. Well if you're leaving I, guess I'll go to but wait. There's a lettuce on his mind. Now I love it. Where'd you go? and. Here's something useful how to make a fait shield from a crispy cream donuts box. Highly. I don't I don't get the clear plastic on my crispy cream boxes. They're all patio. Oh? Walls, won't you hear being robbed here? So easy. It works so well, and everybody says my. You smell delicious. Your face will be sticky. Scott beal's laughing squid. Thank you got for some humor. Now let's get to our picks of the week Stacey you start. Because you're you're going for neo wise I can tell. This is a camera mount for a telescope so as part of my new house. We have a bald eagles. Nest Lake Oakland your feet away. I have an old meade telescope from what I was a kid, so we hook that up. We started I. Wish I could take pictures I could show people the Eagle because it had a baby, so there's like a juvenile Bald Eagle in the two parents very cute. There used to be to juvenile. Cam In the nest there. Well, so yeah, so I can't. I was like. How can I take pictures and? Lo and behold. One of these, but it's not as good as this. Box which I'm sure means is a little more. The meads is actually nine hundred ninety nine on H. Okay, you know who knew, but. Yes, so if you in this apparently works. People are using what. I'm a little unclear on that picture. So! Yeah, this was my thing. I this is. This is a special mount. That allows you to move slide the cameras, so it's the cameras right on the OCULUS. Killer. Of the of the device. But yeah, it's really I mean and I would also say if you have like a young child and you WANNA get excited about this kind of thing. It's also a nice way because kids really have a hard time coming into. The. Yeah. Nice that's my. Great. No, that's a great pick. It's connected. It's my phone. Thank you, Stacey. Mr Aunt pruitt. Man I. I had a hard time with my pick the weasel, so that's why you have three of them, yeah! I will mention John mcwhorter again. I listened to his podcast. Called Lexicon Valley I don't know. Love that knowing how to podcast. It's so good I love that guy running right now. We're talking about. Are you made it. He's six good, and it's just I listened to that because I learn a lot from it to you know especially with. With the Black English and things like that, and how it relates inches, it's it's brilliant, but that was. That was the the main pick that I wanted to make sure throughout their so. I can. Put. Lexicon Valley. Lexicon. and. Allie Nice. I Love Quarter. Yeah, he sees so good and I. Love It my other ones. Is Twitter Pick I want to go with trump teen. Is from a voiceover? Artists are no name Mr Andy Hairs, and he's just been having some fun with Donald Trump's tweets and read them as Emperor palpitation I'm starting this. Particular one share decide. He brought his son in with them. Sign is four years old I think, and if you listen to audio, he's really good at these voiceovers, and he's even got an endorsement for Mister Mark Hamill on a couple of these last. Let's. Grab attended prep jetty. Means? He was given the questions just lake. Never have seen this before. Year old doing. Job? Problems on. The. East he should give it to Jay. Best shape it bit him. Aid? Beds game will be great tip additional with this. Burn POW trump or president trump eighteen. They can't make his name. Andy Harris the Andy Harris on twitter. Five, he's really good at this voiceover. As just a few of the things he's done. Jeff number please well. We could mention this one really quickly. That Amazon is now the number one advertiser. WHO fought advertiser? advertiser says axios. Forty million dollars. Of I, don't see. I hardly see. Idioms on ADS. Where where where would you see Amazon ads? That's what I'm saying. They have view commercials. Seven. Bigger than proctor and gamble. Well Yeah. COMCAST, to A. T and t number three I mentioned in eighteen to raise. My wife is really bad. proctor and gamble were four, Walt Disney five. Google six verizon number. What do I see Google Advertising Zombie Bajaj I see a lot of Google TV. Ads. But I'm on, while they used to advertise a lot on football Amazon, number one. Wow said he'd be on. Some type of ads on tiktok right. ooh, don't. They have a big relationship. I don't know. Speaking of at and T. Rowe quickly, my wife raged because she has a steam powered phone still, and she's loyal to it because the apple refuses to make tiny phone again, and she's rage, and she wants a small phone and making big phones, so she's hold onto it and then yesterday I got an email from at and T. saying you have to give up your phone. Wait? You don't have to get your phone. What That's what he said in the email I have email and it sure made it seem I sent it to her and boy. Did she get mad? and. That Yeah, you you're! GonNa have to. Work soon. And then it turns out. It's at least a year and a half, and it's really for three g phones, they to convince people with foes would still work on the network to upgrade the phones. Is this a scam shameful at and? our our mask of the week. Carson's mass of the week this week on Oetzi, the led fashion dust mask made from breathable fiber optic fabric with twelve colors in one eight is very affordable, only twenty, one ninety nine, and you can cycle through the colors as you walked like ants background. They flash today. This is pretty cool. If my mask is green, don't come near me. I'm kissed. This is actually you know I. AM encouraged by this because I think. I think master going to become a fashion statement. They're going to become fun. I saw company this week that had matching masks and bow ties perfect karston should be getting some other actually. Oh, God I should have Carson Jesus. How could I have not missed? God, that's a Carson here are the USA Today the ten most popular face masks on Amazon? I wondering. Amazon Founded Kirsten Floro Mass with Ben Those? Yeah lots of people like the gator because you can pull it up. Caters Yup. Simple, black masks all you need the presidential seal and you'll be right there in the oval. I don't know if I like these masks because it's got discharge fouls for easy breathing, which means you're not predicting. They'll dust supposed to anybody. Bad, do not wear that mask. Awe Little Love Heart Mask. Gray mask with adjustable loops. Pleaded flair. I like making my own mask, but these are quite nice. If you can't make your I found the. For Carson. It's on our good well. We'll save it for next week cab. Oh! All right okay. All right. Jeff meals miffed well, I don't. Know It'd be nice to you. Stacey 'cause you're I know 'CAUSE I. On my microphone and Order for today tonight. I'm getting hungry. Not Cooking the night. We're GONNA. We're GONNA. Go out to eat out. Take out on well. Take takeouts on the islands. No. There's only like twenty restaurants in like eleven of the Mirror talion. New, JERSEY? It really like it's not Texas. A live mix half of half of them were tex-mex services like here. Half of them are Italian. Eating from leaving Texas. Oh my Gosh enchiladas so much, just enjoyed enchiladas. Oh? Can make those those are harder to make car they. I Miss, Molay so molay is hard to make that I miss it. Is a real art form, and they don't share the. Sure the here in. Seattle, it would be very good. The only former director of nine inch nails. Masks movie monster masks to really scare the pants off. The people use. Oh, that's really terrifying. YIKES! Weirdo scary masks. Scary scary. I'm sorry. If I'm giving you bad dreams, don't look at that. Look, don't look. Don't look such a Weirdo. Lays gentlemen. It's time for stacy to have some Caso, so we've got to say so long. We do twit every Wednesday. One Thirty Pacific, four thirty eastern twenty thirty T, C., you can watch us live or listen live there live streams took dot TV slash live. 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132: Mikey wonders what is in a Slim Jim

Planet Mikey

47:09 min | 2 weeks ago

132: Mikey wonders what is in a Slim Jim

"Okay, here we go. Get crazy and white state for a while. Don't touch of radio. Thanks for listening to that mistake me for some jingles, and I enjoy being mad. You know what? I enjoy about it. My wife explains things to me, I think you need someone in your life. It's going to explain things off. Last thing, she helped me out with was a Facebook. I was not on it, I don't know if, you know this people get mad at you, when they find out, you're not involved in Facebook, you are not on Facebook page. So I got on, I was on for a couple of weeks and I go to my wife ago, I don't I don't get this. I don't get it at all. She goes. Oh, you know why? You don't get Facebook. You don't care about other people and she's exactly right. They show the voice was very special guest on the, like, the planet money podcast. We're going introduce him and just a moment here, but, yep. Let me just tell you been here to tell you actually, this is episode number 132, what is correct? They know, just maybe that's the first time Ben's gotten an answer, right? And we gave em, she planted my key podcast at Planet. My key on Twitter with Bill Smith. Highly my name is Bill Smith. And here's where I live at Leeds, decoration broadcast, professional and navy Veteran, by the way. That's right. Yep. We thank you for your service. Welcome. We got been kitchen. He's also highly decorated. It happened in Vegas during March of the Peroni penis parade. You aren't supposed to talk about that. And within my contract, highly decorated for his bravery circled back, crazy penis curvature, correction treatment wage, go to you bend me.com more on that. One of our proud sponsors on the program here and yours. Truly three-time Emmy award-winning T 43, your broadcast veteran of 18, radio station wage. A gold star winner also for my multiplication facts, back in Missy nurse. Third grade, got so many gold stars. I just thought I'd mentioned, it's in my list of academic credits that happened in PowerSchool. Manchester Connecticut, power back in the sixties, our special guest tonight is a very funny guy. I saw this guy, Jim calling. He's, he's funny as hell. I didn't know you were that funny until you get up there on the stage at giggles. Well, thank you. Yeah. I wouldn't if you just looked at me, you go, there's a middle-aged white man Corner. Yeah, seem like such a normal. Do do we get that a lot people come over and go. You don't look funny cuz you just standing there. But yes, when you get on stage and that's why they pay us to go to The Comedy Club, it's the jokes I went to giggles and he was wrong before Lenny and got up there. And I should you know, this guy could could stay out there a lot longer that people loved your show. Oh, thank you very much folks. I was with the good news, I think you can go back in the next page. Weeks and Lenny will be at Giggles. Of course, he's got a connection there. I understand he is, he's a good guy. He's my best guy to. Yep. Mike. Clark and Lenny Clarke. Both very fine Clark's as Clark. Yeah. The rest of the family. Oh, they're off. There's, they're really the top two. I mean, I liked Will Clark when he was on the Giants, but not like, I like Lenny. No, no, no. So gym here from Wakefield, Massachusetts. I lived there. I I grew up in Bedford and now I live in the lovely town of wake. You originally from Bedford. Yeah. From Bedford. Yeah. Right. In this general area that we are in right now just mean streets. You read, are you rich area? I didn't know it. But yes, we were, we were young, I didn't but here's the thing, my mother didn't grow up with not a ton of money and so she treated us like we were poor and then it was until he was like, seventh eighth grade. A friend told me goes, like, we had a two car garage and a five bedroom house, but we were always told that, you know, know, we're struggling to make ends meet. And a friend of mine, just goes. Do you have money? I'm pretty sure you do and then they're kick minute from, yeah. Yeah. My dad was a was a child of the depression song. Have some weird habits in my house as well, but it was like, you know, eat everything on your plate but it got a little, he got a little carried away with it. You know, when I took the garbage out, he bring it back and she did you lick the wage Gap? He was a tough guy, my my dad, he was, you know, he grew up in a depression when he actually had to work at age eight washing dishes. Oh, yeah, yeah. So my yeah, my father had a work, he and Buddy and I'm buying this business that him and my brother owns. So they do very well but we would get hand-me-downs a lot and I had five sisters and no brothers. Oh, so I was sent a junior. What did you down a lot of Pink's new song. What did you what about Underpants you didn't have to wear? Like, not going to get into that now? Well, I was just curious freely and his phone my Five Sisters though. I have sisters, I had four sisters and how often. Now, where are you in the pecking lawyer? I got three older and two younger. Okay. When you needed a shirt to go out with a iron at 4, you would they wash your clothes and do your stuff? I wouldn't my mother took care of the iron butt hole. My wife who I've been married to for a bunch of years now, she said that she never thought our relationship was going to work because she would come over the house with five sisters and I would just go, you know, what are we having sandwiches or, you know, at a party and took was some sister that was just waiting on you hand and foot. She's like I can't be with this guy, he's a jerk, he never gets off the couch. It's in their DNA, I think. Yeah, it's amazing way to take care of me. Now, this is a Thursday of biological bemusement, but did they ever have? I mean, when they grew up and got older, did you ever have like a rough day or two? And maybe they all had something going on a flow visiting or something years younger, man, you didn't know what that was. You would just go, you know, your father would go, let's go. We're going to go into Hampshire every day or two getting the car. He didn't know why that. Cuz that's if that timing, you know lands properly, you got no chance at them. So let me ask you this, bill, your four sisters. When they borrowed each others, clothes, everything was always left in a ball. Yeah. Like, she borrowed my dress and left it in a ball. They would be tears and hair off. Oh yeah, everything's left in a ball. I'm like, why is left in a ball so, did you know you have kids? Yes, I do. And you have daughters and son. Yeah, I have two sons and a daughter. Okay, so, all right. So I'm reliving that whole thing with five women in the house and I did think of that as each of my daughters was born. And like we were going to go this route. Yeah, she might have, we had three brothers and a sister. So, in my house, it was like if she even begged to try to say something in a conversation. She had very soft voice. My sister's mom. Could I get that last piece of toast and it would be one of us saying, shut up just like completely here. And she was a doll of a human being. Still is my sister took. Yeah, my mother would always be at the kitchen table talking with my sister's about, you know, emotions and their feelings. And I would come up out of the basement or something or come from downstairs and she would go. Do you want to talk about anything like no way Jose Ever want to talk about anything ever now? How did you do in the when the comedy backed off? Based on the covid-19 stuff. Did that drive? You nuts, was awful. She need any, like, any kamakhya. I'm sure that you have it in here. We're just used to working all the time and used to, you know, being at a certain level where your books filled and you're out there travelling, I travel a lot and then all of a sudden it just it shut down. And I guess I figured it out. Well, I said this last for about a week and a year and half later, you just calling guys in the phone. I'm like, we ever going to do anything ever again. I'm telling you, we had Tony V on the phone during during the page and he was doing Drive-In shows. I mean, we did everything. Yeah. The stuff like, if someone called you during regular times and said, hey, I got this show. You kidding me, go fuc yourself. I'm not doing that. But in this way, you know what, I'll be there. Sure your resume shows I did a ton I worked very clean. So corporations behind me to do Zoom shows. So you would just I would sit in my office and you know, be dead. My jokes to a computer screen. A bunch of faces looking back. Yeah, yeah. And you think it goes off alone. You click off and then the company sent you an email. That was great. And you don't know a great that was Jeffrey toobin knows great. I was young, I'm not talking. Now. When when Tony was on I said, well what was it like doing a show in front of a drive, you know, driving parking lot, full of cars and he said Russ, first time ever gotten a beeping Ovation, that's whatever, that's a weird thing to have to go through. Now, when you get up there in front of the crowd of people, I mean, your routine gets busy fast. It's funny, facts, get right into it. Has there ever been a time where either, the crowd was stupid or slow or or not quick to respond or just, you know, and and you had to get heckled by somebody, you had to give them back some change. Oh yeah. I mean, you know, no matter. I don't care who you are. What level a comedian you are where you work. There's always going to be crowds and you just going to go out there and and especially sometimes, if you're in a comedy club or something, you crush the age, Talk show and then you're sitting in between in The Green Room in between shows like I could be the greatest comic ever and then you go out there for the 10:30 show and you're like it's the same shit. I was just doing an hour and a half ago but it just crickets just looking. Yeah and there's just something you got and then all of a sudden you maybe do need to do some crowd work, or something to kick them, in maybe they're more cocked at the second show than they would have been the first shows that every, every shows different, no matter where you go home, you know, whatever, you know. So, and especially like at my level, if like you said, you didn't know me going into the show, right? You you I have to stand up there and prove myself you're like to cancel any policy. This guy, you know I got right? So it didn't take long for me to say this guy's fine, you know, it's kind of Cali when you watch a TV show after 5 minutes sometimes you can say, well okay this is chose not for me and sometimes you keep watching and that's that's the hook with your comedic Act. It didn't take long at all for me to say. Oh, this guy's funny. So I'm gonna listen, everything says, and and you talk a lot about, you know, families, you know, like you're like, you talk about your own personal. Yeah. I took off like my wife, the grocery shopping. I do, yeah. And how I hated it and, you know. Yeah. And so, you know, you're a dad, right? I son and many times. Yeah. And you know, it's what if the dead, whatever the dead is the wrong thing. Whatever it is about paper towels. Why? Cuz the list said paper towels, I bought twenty five rolls of paper towels, right? I'm dragging them into my house. Month goes those the paper towels you bought? And I said, no, I would never purchase paper towels. I brought these home to show you what other men would bring home with their families. My wife's like he lived in this house twenty years. You know what? Kind of paper towels we use. Like I'll do you one better. I don't even know where we keep the paper towels. They're not right, but I think I use my t-shirt now. What? What? Release, variety of paper towels? Did she really want you to get a new? Do not remember after having that hard experience know. So behind the scenes of that joke is yeah, my wife just came home and took The third time, buying the wrong kind, she just held him up. She, why do you keep doing this? And I'm like, doing what? Like, you keep buying the wrong kind and I'm like, it doesn't matter. It's a paper towel like, yeah. And then she said, no, I like this kind of, all right? And then you go back and the quicker, picker-upper, you go, you don't let your wife, you go to your notebook and write something down, you know, my wife makes a very specific list and she doesn't just say shouldn't just say cuz I've done the same thing paper towels, she's like, oh, these are the cheap fines, you know, you know, she'd make a list and say, which kind it is and it has a this picture on. I mean she's a very specific. I have her. I have mine send me screenshots of exactly what it is. If I have a question mark about, like, so, what's the difference between the three of them? Which one you want? Just send me a picture of my wife will do the exact same thing with the yogurt. Cuz I have two girls now, one is twenty. And one is, let's say younger than 20, she's probably 18. Yep. And they're very specific into the yogurt. They want a job. And it's it's a nightmare. That's just the wall of yogurt and you have to bring this home if you bring you've ruined their week. You know, when it comes to Yogurt, it's a whole different culture and that's why boys are easier. Cuz boys, really don't care. You can, if they say bring home cheese, you bring home cheese or going to eat whatever you put in for. Yeah, it's Chase. Got damaged. What is that? Jesus ate the cheese? That's generically to. I used to go to the Stop & Shop stores, you know, they had their jobs and, and back in the day, they had their brand and there was a, a thing called Stop & Stop Shop, right? It's at ShopRite beer. Dot said, didn't say lager or pilsner or anything about generic beer? This is how old I am ShopRite beer so I can give me some beer. I don't imagine what that must have seemed like, just a cut below. It was beer. That's this couple of shape. You're in college again and the guy you don't care. If someone brings ShopRite beer, like yeah, throw me one of those. Anybody. Yeah, well I was drinking out of a cave down in Florida with at the fantasy camp, fish was standing next to the the cake literally for three hours and I don't know if he's kept pouring beer into his cup over and over and over again for 3 hours. Finally, he he hits are he opens the thing that goes? He says I guess it's time to go to bed bath. That should have that kind of limit on your life. I'm working a cruise ship down in Tampa and I walked by where the Yankees have their spring training. Yeah. And the gates are open and there's people in this cheering and it's, you know, whatever 10:00 in the morning, and I go home. Walk up, no one stopped me. So I'm like, see what's going on. And there was the Yankee Fantasy Camp was going on and it's one of the funniest things I've ever witnessed in my life. Middle aged fat, man, stuffed into Yankee uniforms with Yankees Legends, just standing out the field, not giving a shit, a coat on and all the campers look like stump Merrill. You know I did that experience. It was it was I did meet a lot of good, good guy but I tell you are so sore. You don't realize what baseball does to your muscles until you try to leg out a an infield hit yeah at age whatever that's a terrible thing at age whatever when you're not doing that anymore. Jim Charities from Wakefield Massachusetts he's a comic he's very very good. We will gladly appreciate you coming down here. Did you guys happen to see the LeBron James incident where he yelled at the at the announcer the court basketball court? You see that video. Yes it is kids game. Yes his son brownie brownie. Bronny James LeBron has a son named Ronnie Ronnie. Okay, Brandon speaking of the quicker Pig Upper Brownie and he and he screamed at his kid. Well, he was at the end at the announcer. The announcer said, he, there was a foul and the announcer said something like, well, I guess you get those calls when your name is on the arena cuz it was LeBron. James built the arena that they that his son plays in which is a is a good line. I would say the same thing. Sure. Yeah, I hate went over and started yelling at him. He he got up and walked and start yelling at the announcer for saying such a thing. Of course, you know, it's LeBron James the game mind you to do. Yes. Now, if I'm the announcer, you have the microphone and I would say, we need to get LeBron Jame s scores out of the LeBron James gymnasium. Right now, he's scaring me. Yeah. It's, it's charity to kick him out of the gym. He purchased unbelievable. So, I was just wanting me to. I've never been to LeBron off the recent. Yeah, when I was, I guess you could watch it on the radio for for hating on LeBron, and hating on Manny Ramirez. And I, the reason I hated on Manny Ramirez because he's lazy. You know, he never I mean he didn't play defense, he didn't hit triples, he didn't run hard, he just hit and he's great hitter. Oh yeah, yeah. But with LeBron you can get away with being lazy and baseball. Oh sure, you off. Oh yeah, it's especially depending on your position but with LeBron, it's like hello, I won the lottery, the body Lottery, and I'm six foot eight with that with that, unbelievable and all those basketball skills. Sometimes he thinks that he's God. Like and the joke is, you know what's difference between Jesus and LeBron James? Well, Jesus, Jesus doesn't walk around La pretending LeBron James, you know? But you you I don't LeBron. We've been hearing about this kid since he was thirteen. Yeah, that was on covers of Sports Illustrated. So, of course, he's going to be a giant douche bag oil. No, man. It's just, we, we raised them in the press and, and he's gone on to win championships now. So I can only imagine that's makes it worse. Yeah. Yeah. But now he's has to take take on the political and piss off a lot of people by, you know, wage Okay, LeBron and, you know people say shut up and dribble and all that stuff. Well, just pick your spots a little better, you know, especially at, you know, you're being videotaped that game. I'm with, I put basketball any pro athletes along with supermodels. You know what I mean? Like, we don't need to hear you spin. A Christian act, exactly actors and musicians, we don't, you know, we don't need to hear you speak. Just do what you've been trained to do and let's move on when it'd be great. If politicians couldn't speak and had to use sign language all the time. Would that be so unbelievably fabulous and would you watch, have you been watching this? There's no joke at the end, if you watching, you know they always have assigned person at next year. So the press conference is going on with the the condos that collapse down in Florida. Yeah, in the lady, I Can't Take My Eyes Off the lady, who's doing sign language, you think because it's very tragic and she's just really making faces and going back and forth. Yeah, I'm not keep this on. We gotta watch her a little longer. You get a little bugger in the end of your nose and you grab it with your babies finger, you could be dead. An awful World War. Some, you don't know what you're saying these people. You know, it's unbelievable. I'd like to learn sign language. I know this we're doing this on, on the radio. I mean on audio this is work. See what I'm doing with my fists song. That's called work this hand across the chest that means love. Yeah, this means fuck you pretty much that as a middle finger. We all know that one, but I'd like to learn sign language honest to God. I think I would really have no interest. I think I would do pretty well with the hearing impaired women because they then they would have to list me. Yeah, so when I work cruise ships, sometimes they have hearing hearing impaired people off the ship and then they have a sign or down below to Stage the jokes. Yes they do. Yeah, it says awesome. Haha. Like do they just do the jokes they love the hollow people off and it is funny seeing your silly stuff being signed out. Yeah I mean and and what happens if you make the sign language person, The Interpreter I guess laughs and they're just can't keep doing it cuz they suck. Laughing at the jokes. You always, you can't like you're standing off stage down below, but you have to go over like, no matter what you have to go over and have fun with them. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, oh, I go. If I'm talking too fast, you let me know and they told not to look up. Usually don't look down. Like, I can see you, but some of them have really weird faces and they make funny faces. They're doing it, trying to Florida. She has varied, she has great faces. Well, she is as opposed to my ex-wife who is virtual expressionless my entire marriage with her either? She never even acted like she cared or heard anything. I said that seems like things. You may want to work out on another podcast. Yeah well I think they fixed it through over the second marriage I think I did. Yeah. Now the Statue of Liberty came up into the news. This is like my favorite. I mean, she is Wicked hot. First of all, yes, I'm a French. She's hot Lady Liberty. Yeah, she can hold her arm up in the air for a long long time without any cramps. But people trying to cancel her as they're doing with anybody that's important in today's Culture Club. But did you hear about that saying that? She's that she's just a reminder of how America sucks now, because everything that's the Statue of Liberty stands for is being made fun of or anything, by today's right-wing culture, or whatever it is, I don't know, some of the people go off on these tangents about shit. Hello, the Statue of Liberty. Now while the Communist don't like her. Why? Because she's not communist. So what are we just? We're going to pack her up and send her back to Paris is that weird now for channel Lake who would want to cancel the Statue of Liberty. Somebody behind the way back, my name's in there. Can't do a walk. Take. What do you mean your names? And then yeah they used to do something where you like my grandparents had this in the eighties where you paid like ten fifteen bucks and like Bill Smith's wall here with all the musicians up and down here you just scribble your name summer. So me and my brother's name are written inside the it's called graffiti. It's called vandalism some homeless man, 10. So you're telling me my grandparents are felons, probably two facing a National Monument dead. And probably that's really immigrant felons, which is even worse. Like how long till the fighting Irishman? Someone goes after Notre Dame Fighting Irish as an Irish. They they are going now. They, you know, cuz irish guys like no, nobody, we ain't letting that go. Well, know and plus the fact that it's like, when like the Indian tribes to say all you're, you're besmirching, you know, the Cleveland Indians and all she could be proud of it. It's like you're supposed to be bigger ones. I kind of actually get why? Because it's a very general term encompassing. All of them using the wrong terminology. So, my town wage feel, we just had a huge vote, but like, if it's Warriors, I think that's fine. That's what we were the Wakefield Warriors, but I guess the logo, the the warrior head was offensive. I would like a headdress wage. They had a zoom call and this lady who's a psychiatrist engine on. And she was saying, Zoom meeting that, I watched that a little powwow with her. So some of the children have so much anxiety with the Warrior song. That they can't come to school but and I wanted to call him ago. Well then those kids are fucked. All right, over their towns mascot. They're not going to make it in life so it's like come on. When it do its job and you said the Vanderbilt Commodores, you, doors, get pissed. You know who didn't like it was the psychologist didn't like yes. Exactly. And like most in my kids that went to high school like we could care less dad, you know. And so the mostly I would say the vast majority of kids in the high school care less. Well, Provincetown they got the the set the team is called the Savages up there. I don't know. Did you hear about that? I'm going to let you go, girl, I have a tribute to the Statue of Liberty cuz she's I got a crush on her and I just like to do a few bars of this is just, this is the song about which the Statue of Liberty, go ahead Play the song. I'm I'm getting worked up Dragon Tears, my ex-boss tired, excuse me, you are Masters birth. You know, to meet everybody. Everybody was all of your teeming off. My favorite part, send me. Oops, I'm sorry, he's off campus. Tours to me, especially the hot wings left lamp off. That was this beautiful was very touching. You guys don't know the color of horrible. You know I was playing around with that in there. At the end of mass re I do I respect her very a lot of people have been inside or so. And what about the CRT stuff? You hear about that critical race critical dog. Is what's your theory know? This is brand new to me. Well, they're teaching in school now that white people were so bad and rotten and say you are. It's all abilities white man. I know all about not jealous, terrible, exact weirdest. Come back, just sitting here. I think that's I think that's racist. I think the whole idea of CRT is a record. Of course it is. It's totally racist and it just turning it backwards and trying to make you think that it is. So let me ask you this, what about what about the white people back? Then that were like abolitionists terrible tour. That died in the Civil War. Trying to abolish slavery. Are they? Are they racists? And that's where they soldiers know. The guys had tried to abolish slavery, where the Republicans, the good guys. And the guys, I keep slavery with the Democrats, you know, the party that's in control these days. It's right Institute CRT. Yeah, it's insane. But the Democrats would say, Well since then basically, the parties switch places, you know, although although Thursday Democrats were then or now the Republic. It's, it's a whole idea of it. Why teach little kid in kindergarten? Okay? You know what your white you should feel really guilty cuz I can't help me and wipe up your white like, what are you? The jealous driven here in a Volvo station wagon. You know, you were coming on Hannity and Colmes Colmes is dead. Let's break down the issues. I need to wash my hair. I need some Combs. Do you have? Do you have, you're going to call you? I mean, I'll find yourself. So I'm just throwing out things to talk about here because I like these, these topical things, which commercial do you hate the most? I've figured out which one I hate the most. Oh, I. Well, besides the toenail fungus commercials which just roasts me so much out. There's a new one on. It's very graphic, it's like six years of. It looks like stalactites and stalagmites. In inside your toenail, it's a yellow in other way, and talking about is pretty gross. It is so disgusting. That's the one. I hate the world, but the one that is dead. Replayed, the Allstate ad with a guy. Has the singing hood ornament? Know, God. Oh yeah, that's me. That's a money. The black guy driving down the highway and I do I have to bring up that he's black, but I just did. Yeah. It's it's it's creepy. Like you watch it for 30 seconds? Like get this off. The screen is hood ornament, whose Mercurial and metallic. And she starts singing along with the guy driving the car and it's all about saving $600 on insurance. I'll pay you $600. Now, if you take that ad off my fucking television, what you remembered, what the ad was about. Isn't that cool? But I'm not buying it one. I hate, and I don't think they still run anymore and I don't remember what it's actually for is the commercials with the guy that's like half, man. Half motorcycle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Freaks me the fight off. It was Insurance to when I'm probably can't stand Insurance. All right. It's, I think it's one of the biggest scummy things going in this country today, honestly, so, I had a tree fall on my back yard and damaged my fence and my deck and also wage. Golf clubs and laptop were out there, so I called my insurance guy. I said, hey, what do I do to take pictures? And this is the honest-to-god truth when he said he goes, she can gym, but honestly, we consider that an act of God. We're not going to cover anything off act to God, right? Is a great excuse going. Like, oh, insurance company comes up with that. Should I call me next month? Because Jim didn't get your payment for last month. I said, oh God came to me. And his name told me to take my family cheesecakes & Cakes. You know, you say that? I just literally three days ago, did have a tree fall in my yard you. I believe that you had one, you know? Yeah. But this happened just three days ago. So it's it's Eerie, you know, in a kind of an eerie kind of way that you mentioned that tree falling in my yard and now it's on you you're going to pay for everything because it felt it was in our neighbor's yard but it felt onto our property. So the, the, the sky is my, my God, you know, written into the such bullshit. Yeah. Like what are you? I don't believe. I have insurance. Incase trees in my yard, right? The point. Why did he condoms every month? Act of God, right? Yeah, I mean, it's, it's unbelievable. Andrew Cuomo, his daughter Michaela. Now, what's gender do you think McKayla is? I'm going to go a female. Yeah, but I'm sure like I said a middle-aged man, she would, I would go with non-binary, right? Get out your manual workers, my patience is Michelle Kennedy Cuomo. Now Andrew Cuomo was married to a Kennedy, you know, one of the Kennedys and which one she is now. Okay, let me just get destroyed to you. Okay, it's just words in here. I don't understand Michaela. Kennedy Cuomo. The youngest daughter of New York. Governor Andrew Cuomo has revealed. She's took em a sexual as opposed to homosexual after opening up about her queer identity. The twenty-three-year-old offered more insight about her sexual orientation during a conversation last week on Instagram live with actors activist and author do not otra photo library, him home during their chat Michaela explained wage And she identifies mostly as as Demi Demi sexual which pflag and what that is described fuckers. My patience is running now and sexuality is not inherently phobic. This isn't her that's another woman from last time I cannot I don't even know what we're talking about. I don't either I don't either no one talking about it. It's so she's she's not saying she's a lesbian but she's not straight. She says a demi-sexual person. Can be gay, straight bisexual or pansexual? What is that? You have sex with wage and doubles your chances for Des heater pan. He's busy, she, she went on Instagram to tell the world, she's super confused, right? It's very curious used. She says, when I was in elementary school actually, I'll do her voice here off when I was in elementary school. I figured I was a lesbian when I was in Middle School, ementary school. I came out to my family and close friends bisexual. When I was in high school, I discovered pansexuality and I thought that's the key. For me. They are both valid sexuality's. Hm, Michaela added, she's always evolving, which despite being hesitant about speaking out due to those who assume she was seeking attention off. Yes. Anyone told her no one really gives a shit, you know. Hey, thanks for joining. Do you want to know what a demi-sexual? I'd say. Oh, yeah, yeah, demi-sexual to not be sexually attracted to someone unless you have a deep emotional, and or romantic relationship, both of them. So, most girls I met in college. Were, were that demi-sec? Yes. So that might do me sexual overtone know how you doing. They said, yeah, I'm not attracted Jimena, demi-sexual with my pillow know, cuz I have a very what, what is it described that again, it is someone who is sexually attracted to you own. Under the condition that they have a deep emotional, and or romantic relationships, my pillow, but that's a relationship. You know, the whole world song. Com that's are proud. Sponsor. I should know, you know, the jokes fire. 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You know, like a slipper bottom of it has like a nice Rubber Soul, 2.0. Com Rubber Soul, you said that's my favorite Beatles album. It's a tremendous tremendous album. Definitely ask we. We ask all the comedians that come in here cuz I'm very curious what everyone's kind of taste is, all right? I want to know, build out your your, you know, ideal fantasy dream. Comedy said, you have an opener, a middle and a closer walk. Oh wow, that's a good question. We've asked every comedian been some you know common themes some names have been named across a couple of different people but alive or dead. Yeah. A lot of yeah you know this is this is going to sound creepy but growing up. I would have to put Bill Cosby on the on the show. I think we're going to have Bill open and so we can get him the hell out of there. So it doesn't have some. Yeah, yeah, I don't milk have to go cause me David Letterman and Seinfeld very interested in a Seinfeld was the one I would watch as. And I'm like, all right, if this guy seems normal, if he's doing it I can do it. You know, like just regular guy, you know, he wasn't wacky on stage or anything like that, but those are three guys. I mean, they're all, you know, relatively clean comedians. Yeah. What influenced you to be a clean comedians. You know what? When I, when I was watching them and and, and, and then I started in guys, other comedians. Say, if you can walk You can make a living at it. And that was my game leader. Yes. And so I used to and then I started opening for Brian Regan on the road and I'd watch him just blow the place away for an hour, being clean. And so, then in June against another, guy's been pretty good to me. And he's worked very clean. So, so my, my three were Moms Mabley, Penny, Youngman and character character. I gotta have him. We want to hear my Carrot Top stories. Yeah. So, I forget what, Carrot Tops real name is but so I have a college agent years ago and she comes out to dinner and she's very good friends with carrots home. She's like, has been working with him for years and so she's telling this story but using Carrot Tops real name. She's like, oh, he's out in Vegas, and he just got Thompson. Yes, Scott Thompson. Just did the show and then all of a sudden came back in his dressing room. There was a woman in the shower and he didn't know what to do and my wife just goes who is who is this now? She's like, oh well, you know him as Carrot Top and wife goes, oh I hate Carrot Top off. But agents right here, you don't hate, I love that kind of brutal. And that's that's the funniest shitt on earth when it happens, naturally. Like yeah, you know, and she didn't, you know, she didn't know what she was just an actual honesty. I actually my, my three, some on stage would probably be Steve Martin. Yeah, Sam Kinison. George Carlin in that order. Yeah, cuz I don't work clean. You know. I'm yeah, I love. I love dirty comix to, you know what I mean? I love dirty. I'm dirty. I'm and I'm sick of me right now. I'm down. 30000, I Got Dirt coming off the face, everything. Yeah. All right, I got a thing here. A little game called what's in A Slim Jim. And it's time to play watching the gym. I'm Booth announcer and Ed Harcourt with our host of tonight's game so much. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Letters gentleman. It's tied to play what's of a Slim Jim, and our guests tonight, we have three contestants behind door, number one, gym card, and am just very funny, funny comedian stand-up comic and he's not even standing up and between door number two, and number three. Looking for his zipper is Ben. Kitchen been. Hi. How are you? What do you do for a living? Thank you. A new Bill Smith. Number three so much. What's in a slim jim, actually, this is a very easy contest. All you got to do is tell me what's in a Slim Jim, and if you get one wrong, you're out. I'll go who wants to go first, first know? Let's let Jim go. You know, these are guests. I'm going to start with dog food. Yeah, so horse wage. Yeah. No, I, please players will be trained and using phony articles sponsor. Is that why we can't shift solenoid? All right, shut down tomorrow, you want? I want to get it, right? So, you win. The slim tried everything is shut them out. They come in and same exact shape, but I'm going to say ingredient Macho. Man said, so you don't have to worry about offending sausage. Is it? Well, what it's technically website, addresses, and you gotta be something that's actually isn't a slim jim technically a song said you suck? Go fuc yourself. Sure seriously it's is you have to name a an ingredient? Yeah. Yeah sodium. Yes I'm just kind of trying to get a sharp. Drop it off. Probably the first list. Well it's actually let's see. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 song. Yeah that's sodium. That's okay. Hey now you cross it off the Box. Hey I just got tossed. I just got tossed. A black Magic Marker. I tossed it to you. Mighty God, who black Magic Marker? Got a black. I'm crossing off strong. That's a win for me. Yes, when you got one one, you got. Go ahead bed. What's in a slim? Jim Mongolian beef wage. Callback company an asshole asshole. That's is that in their Heritage a d'Alene? It's know what what do you have? Come on. Give me a real fucking what-do-you-call-it ingredient. Don't make up this weird Chef. I was like no idea what's in a slim jim. Oh I just named something that could be in a slim to meet byproduct switch. An Eric Schmitt, you want to try this kid, he never got out of fifth grade. Water water, thank you very much. It's the one to three, fourths move, the fourth category, Jim would try. Another one, I thought water and we get salt so far, you have saltwater saltwater. What does that Waterway Smitty? What what's holding it all together? I want any times for gillenwaters, you know, gallon water weigh in pounds know, I really, I mean what's it made out of? It's a simple. Its got a casing. So we got to figure out what's in. I'm going to go ham. Is there any Hamed may have any kind of pig? Yes. Okay. Should we give them that Port? Yeah. This is what I was trying to get at, you know, Mark is like a okay, he's our guest. He gets a moment. No but I you guys are guessing so fucking water water. God damn slim job chicken. Mechanically separated MacKinnon but not just chicken. Mechanically separated chicken. It can't be hand. Wow, separate do know mechanically, they have little robots that can be watching on alive. What the robot found on the floor. After the five, people at slip him. So far, we got pork mechanically, separated some shows so much water. Smitty, there's about ten more. All right, stand by, I got one. See that? There's no way he worked. He worked at an impasse korvac acid. Ascorbic isn't vitamin C. I don't know what the hell it is, but see it to see if it's in there. No. I mean, I'm just qualified. That's it, there's enough. There's several other kinds of acid in their blue, the blue tab, right? Orange Sunshine? Anybody got some good? How about not Sentinels the drug, right? I'm guessing it's not. What's the other one that's in sausage, not fentanyl but santyl santyl santyl. That's good. Fellow mental corn. Corn corn Sarah know. But come on. You guys suck at this game because it's the one that's the worst prize. I'm going to give you a call because you don't want a cuz I'm really getting pissed off. You don't even guess beef. Nobody says him. I say I said beef bi-product of you know you should be more I'd front. Oh I did say meet. Yes none of okay so let me read them off. Beef said, Mongolian Beef Pork mechanically separated, chicken water, dog. Third-choice flower. Oh yeah. Corn. Syrup contains less than 2% of natural flavors. Dextrose paprika. I realized soy protein. I was going to my Textron lactic acid starter culture. That's what hitch in the morning. That one right there. Barley malt extract citric acid, just not ascorbic acid. Correct. Yep. Soy, lecithin, and sodium nitrite. Sodium nitrate, cubensis. But, you know what, here's what I'm going to do for you guys cuz your body will figure this out for you. One, slim jim for you. Thank you for buying a full size. Windshield, you, how old are these brand-new or just got them? And I, and I get the last two months, I guess, received this, exciting Parting Gift actually, what hotel, as a snap to it. Yeah, that's it. Does it the the thing about our guests is in, in a gym didn't even know this month. Still came to the podcast. Each one of our guests gets a designer expensive, delicious gourmet coffee cake from the, my grandma's coffee cake company, wonderful shipped directly to your house and I'm going to name a few flavors and I'm going to ask you to pick the flavor that you want to be my grandma's coffee cake, call one eight hundred eight Grandma. It's true story or go to my grandma come, but I'm going to ask you right now. Jim pineapple, coconut Blackberry, not that one blue blueberry cinnamon, Walnut, cinnamon Walnut without nuts off Granny Smith apple was, let's go there was one in silence. Yeah, without Wireless. Barry, is, is that the one that go with blueberries great? I always recommend that to everyone bill. You like blueberries blue-berries the way to go blueberry, okay? A blueberry cake, an extra fentanyl in for the make sure I mentioned that for Jim. A comedian. Who is very, very funny. He was at Giggles when I saw him and met him for the first time. Yeah. And I'm glad to have you on the podcast. Thank you. Yeah. Oh my, all my dates are on my website. If anyone wants to check that off. The Jim Jim, what? What, it's no website for 4. If you want to see where he's playing, and he's really worth going to wherever he is Jim. What? What? Yeah. Cuz no one could ever spell the last name? That's right. For a couple years. It was Jim Carlton and then it's c, o l. L, i t. Yeah, I'm pretty good, right? Very good. Yeah, Jim calling on the, on the show tonight. We thank him for making the trip out here and enjoying the same time here in the studio. With Bill Smith, been kitchen at Jim, and thank you for the slim jim and more than I could have imagined. You gotta find a space to sign on the wall, right? Use this might have to pop up with New Hampshire, it's too far from my house. Comedy Uncorked at this. I know Vineyard. Yeah, yeah. It's a great little Vineyard up there and it's a great time and I think you get like a package Deal, and you get wine and then the comedy show and I'm with Dave Russo. And another guy. Very funny just another product. Yeah, where he's he's played with his little scally cap. Yeah. Makes so little Robert De Niro face. Yeah, he's a nice little. Yes. When we go on the road, we just pull out a drawer. We make them a little bit shocked. Oh man. So we're going to do a little Castiglione know. This is By Request okay. Then kitchen has an appreciation for old music. So he asked Joe and Jerry to put together who Elvis tune for you. All right. You never kiss me once kiss me twice. Treat Me. Nice. I know that you've been told that it's not fair to tease. You know, if you come on, cold wash, I'm really going to freeze. If you don't want me to feed cold is vice. Check me for lice. That's not the worst. If you're really care, scratch my back and run your credit fingers through my hair and John know, agree your Swaim if you ask me too. But if you don't behave, I'm going to walk right around you. If you want my love, then, take my advice. Black bag, me twice, bring me feel at home June. If you really care, get rid of little razor and shave. My pubic hair me. A slight Jerry. If you asked me to bring it back though cuz I'm allergic to go, if you want. My advice. Hey, Treat Me. Nice song. Yes. Sound about stretch. Treat me nice ass hole.

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