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Psst, Pass the Popcorn: Horror Movie Roulette: Metropolis

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Psst, Pass the Popcorn: Horror Movie Roulette: Metropolis

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I had duffel bag strapped that snapped while i was carrying it not fun. We are teaming up to exclusively offer our listeners. Ten percent off your next purchase by using the code hod ten all one word p. o. d. one zero or go to the link in our show notes db it's time to move on time to get going Metropolis silent starring. Alfred abel gustaf relea- brigitte helm 1927. Black and white unrated this fritz link. Classic film nearly bankrupted the motion picture studio that produced the feature set in two thousand. This futuristic tale show society separated into two distinct segments. The upper-class lived in the high towers of the city and reap the benefits of modern technology. The lower class resided in the underground regions working to make the machinery operate. The main thrust of the film centers on a man from the upper class falling in love with the woman from the lower class is revelation as to what the world is like outside of his towers. Now there are different versions of this film that i found so admittedly i watched the first thirty seconds or so of it. But it's still an unknown factor. But i ain't going to lie. I am really looking forward to watching this. And maybe a silent movie. But it just means i have to pay more attention to it while will it be classic or will it be a done. We will find out tonight on or pats hello and welcome to the popcorn. Horror movie roulette the show where we'll be watching fifty horror movies from the horror classics fifty movie pack anniversary edition every week. I'm your host glade. Packer and i've never seen any of these except for house on haunted hill which will be coming to at some point. But it's been long enough. That i don't remember much of it in the show notes as way you can find the movie legally or you can google to find it all right two hours and twenty four minutes and i looked up the trivia. Didn't read any of it. Because i don't roll that way you all know that. And there's about eighty seven. Bits of trivia. I haven't accounted for any of the duplicates though so this is going to be a very long episode. Hopefully this movie will not have me regretting dedicating two hours to watch so do getting started in three two one the silent movie like i've said however i don't know if this version is going to have any music or anything so all the credits hard is in german is a german movie but yeah oh insensitive silent i apologize for any burbs. Any a unwanted. I guess unnecessary noises. Oh there's music gonna turn up to a little bit. i already like. It should be reading the credits. I'm getting a lot of interesting character. Names intriguing. Oh that's pretty time pretty sophisticated. I guess Ten it doesn't go to poly have a twenty four hour call code above. That's cool Sheets reminds me of going to work Jobs and just you can tell their souls or just gone Very atmospheric can feel. Let's to a degree. Dark city reminds her. This reminds me of dark city. Dark city i but this came out first but to degree reminds me of dark city because it's in black and white but i don't know it just has that it just feel to me at least you guys haven't seen dark city. I would highly recommend it. Nine hundred ninety eight can't remember all the the actors doesn't matter but the thing that does matter is to be sure to get director's cut the fyrke in seattle version wins and i'm going to spoil it either. It's basically about this dude that finds out again. Scotch is this dude has amnesia and he finds out some very disturbing things about the world occupies Supposed to be seeing back in. I don't know but it looks like they're wearing. Ply liner is a thing familiar with these old movies This is supposed to be in the year two thousand. I know he has some weird fashions. But i don't think now lady gaga never mind is supposed to be romantic. Yes own These supposed to be the higher the high level above ground kids or no. They don't look like it look like. They're the city of the workers. Kids need subtitles. What's going on here. There's a field trip louis another movie. This reminds me of another franchise movie. Can i gotta pay attention because all the subtitles but shoot. What was it called seed in my head. I can't remember the mocking yet. Mockingbird trilogy while technically four movies but yeah i guess mockingbird quadra anyway to degree reminds me that except for just the upper classes wearing all these extravagant costumes and one and the lower class racks. So i guess it is a field trip. One seems rather Proceed excuse she does look happy. Romeo and julia Really you're gonna leave us wondering who was good at reading lips and its german. So that's even worse kerr whole while. Okay there's an advertisement so he changed to btv. Two plaques in the synopsis were temperature. I think it's a bogus the machines. We'll see some really crappy work conditions. Throw one killing all the workers for me. I never seen fast. Okay i can kind of see the loose nation. Nerve whatever's was came from tower babble. Pronounced a crap. I can see how nearly bankrupted to the studio. I mean from eighteen twenty seven. I'm assuming what else came out. But this is extremely opinion very extravagant. For the time. I i wasn't expecting anything Low budget he. I guess but called sadie actually really impressive narrow mind interesting in my piss those numbers and symbols coming down were just what he was thinking about rather than what everybody else can see just kind of show the thought process by wondering what they're supposed to depict excuse me Version of the stock market can only guess what he's saying that he met a girl. Or hey what's wrong. I have to talk to my father Seriously he is saying a lot. And i haven't i the explosion. Cancer shorts pants going down to about see. Not the middle of the tongue by. Let's see a little bit past the ankle. I know this is the fashion for the day by navy's because he has his pants all the way up to his belly button wonderful. What has happened if no one told him the explosion. Excuse me looking for the girl another movie once. Seen it cushion bale's was made in two thousand A deleted scene. that's why the qualities switches would talking blasphemy for amused. His dad the plays. I can't take classes on. This account will entrusting their vision. This part of our twenty four geez. It's still going to be a long show. Thought the brave would oh. This isn't brave. Huck frat too late. They can't switch over to brave using google chrome. Sorry everyone. I should've us brave A long okay. All greek to me while german. That's probably what what ended up happening. The dude would've come up and then daddy dearest would have been extremely upset Extremely m sad. I'm not sure you pronounce it elsa fat but your family your job. He didn't tell about the explosion. You didn't give him the plans. Oh you got fired is worse than that is going to go down to the doubts own own to answer that question. I assume they were making money. Difficult howell the idle rich or whatever he actually does care sped it up but he ones were really fast. Jeeze shot go off is looking at the door two. They told me that he was going down to the depths. Already know this young told me twice and the sun knows frieder do for a living does he. Just all can chase girl all day Poor depths worker. Do you press the buttons that what happened earlier cheese word. I'm as bad as some people's parents like what happened. Flush advertisement now. okay now. My number five. Oh v four. These roman numerals look at the movie christian. Bale and i think tyrone digs shoot. The gun caught Does he take over for the do called. I want to study german to think it's only because his only because clean on as is familiar as a wild. Yeah dude charlie inconspicuous. How does this seem like a good idea to have him running the machine if he doesn't know what he's doing plus you trained him like really quick every time. The light flashes where you move the hands really fast. He's one eight eight one one. Wow that's horrible. That he has a number not a name and you do you do move the thing to where the lights are flashing. That's interesting maybe. If you weren't sucked into the into the paper you wouldn't notice that the dude came out. Wolves like money. No idea polluted fish. Big pond ooh means nothing to me. I don't know german flash. There's no way that's money has to be like another out. Sorry guys to ads restart this using a brave but with it being two hours. Twenty four minutes. That's quite a time. Investment oh is really place. They gave me a heads up that it was but was supposed to be an iron hand. Pat off. So why not hell. Ooh into like an android body or something for the record back in the door that i think he said come. Oh now see dead While a mover the nine hundred eighty nine. Batman movie and other oneself to christian bale and batman begins and then part of the dark knight the bad who would allow them to move their head like they had to move their full upper body torso very limited holy crap crazy The machine man moves really slowly. He or she was doing here. She i caught a whole thousand exhausting job. Looks like burns out. That's what you're asking him now after all. Excuse me All greek to him too. Do failing Work on our paper. If you try to follow mean the light bulbs bernau right. So i think i got the gist of it. The machines obviously i mean. It's kind of a thing. But the machines. Under the city run the city technological advancements in the nineteen twenties. Were not the best at the time. But wouldn't there be a better way maintaining all this like like making sure. The workers are actually working. Oh shoot overloads. You're dead probably shows hours crap. I maintain forgiven. Jeez ten hours imprint. So like amount Can definitely see why they walk like he wants to go to that kind of day in day out ten hours and that's just one of the positions there looks like they'll exempt anybody of the workforce to cover or go down there yourself secret entrance crap. Are you kidding me. Another ad shooting is brave. Mind forget this time and see. The next ad doesn't show me when they had prayed showing. Okay that makes sense i guess. He deciphered the so many questions. For this you live. What does she eat where the bathroom who is she. Oh a field trip Excuse me Was she saying. Show me some frigging subtitles. Thank you okay tower That's not. I don't think that's how you spell fantasizing never been fantasizing qui- rarely have. I don't know. I thought that was an i can read. The music does raise the all new. I'm glad that it's plan Literally is well. If i guess did you not listen between your head in their hands. The heart a. I'm don Subtitles captions are saying stuff is. I wonder if they're wearing lands. Mostly her is just kind of just draw. You win draw me and they must be wearing some sort lands gonna flash car thank you. How does she come to that conclusion. I'm guess jeeze. So i'm guessing. She recognized him from above. Use the key master. I am the gatekeeper. A while that's kind of messed up. Dude that's still pretty messed up. He was going out a sense. A fury do. I don't know if i can find the way without you. i'll be straight up. That's my main weakness in video. Games is trying to find my way out of buildings got into. I'm not the best data. So why is he staying law. Quite what i imagined it to be doesn't seem bad. Though other us of progresses it has a lot of. There's a lot of deep seated things behind. that's for sure. Definitely not a horror movie and here we go with the ads. sorry. I'm still sorry that their ads. Okay who is she. Was there only one woman in adapts. You think she did recognize them. From before i mean wasn't exactly hard to miss. He was just staring at her. With crazy is She not been in this area. Perform a crazy here like he does was silent movies. They have to over at and whatever but under stand. Why she's about him. Me is crazy as as all get out naughty unless you recognize and one well prelude their mind thought is going to have to skip because if it's just a a musical enter mission which i know doesn't make sense for a silent movie but those are really fast in our mission to what do they do this thing the cathedral. Why do they do counter combs or whatever In the bible Son just because he's don't know how to say the name shows joe but i don't know how to pronounce it in german. But is it because it's just he's joe son on the seven cents. Yeah houston go back to your friend or one one eight one one a. I forgot about them to iron hand. Cloudy skies in stupid worry only trap now. He actually did go. They're like no safeguards for having a dude from the depths. go up to the high levels for vice versa. I thought you knew. Where was there doing the clock thing. I've got that fight club. Reference gonna say his name is non number one one eight one one. His name was something cref. Seen fight club. I forgot the reference. His name was is your house. The mediator one you kinda just fill into that. Want to list your plan goal. Whatever has been this whole time is to take care of the divide between the city and the theft doesn't seem like a courtesy. Say elevator system. Don't ask doors there. You go skip. The skip. The ad skip the skip. The thank you With feigning ignorance chocolate cigar. I'm going to show you this fox. A maybe he was offering him a cigar and then he was like i smoke cigarettes. Would you care for one. And that's what he's showed him the card so very subtly crap. Is this the thin man. he's asking you. Why would he not demand payment even more money selling them to get out in. should tell them Wanna win do must have like impressive grip strength. That's right yeah. He found her. She was trapped Now sensitize incense and senators me. We're gonna steal your face plastered on this thing. okay. I wanna go who. Yeah that's able was not such a good idea in your stomach. Think he franken good. Hearing maria glasses broken. Oh so okay. I was confused at first. I thought that was underground. You don't just camera guy you're supposed to kick the police do or words. I guess The scientist wants to get rid of the salon. Maybe knock on the door often again. a mouse trap. It is just randomly laying there okay. I thought that it was a. Oh there you go now you're using the old noodle but is it the door break. Those other ones have closed like pretty hard. Maybe we should've put a stick on the ground between the door in the wall rather than trying to jam. It could have broken the branch. Whatever that way to really no way of winning slightly one of the few words in german english is that are mutually exclusive. Nothing is the right term like how towards he is in spanish and english is tortilla transferring brainwaves tour to the machine man although still machine woman. Okay judge just strikes me more feminine than it does masculine special sentence going to be a woman so i mean machine. Man doesn't really maybe it's gender-neutral because machine genitalia. I dunno gender fluid transfer on some goes through woman Transporter fat spoilers. It's not but it'd be interesting if they saw this and thought that was pretty cool. Gene roddenberry saw these christmas lights to make the transporter affect the idea of that. I wonder looks very much like a transporter though. I know it's not as transference or something like that Off just has her cheating. I don't think there's any way they could have made it any better than that. Go away advertisement don't do it f- dang at is really helping all right so the dude was searching free orders. This is a very interesting movie. I don't really uh drinking. I mean it's not over yet. So i'm not going to give you my classic or dud grading. It's kind of difficult to tell because there are moments whereas like this is really intense or this is really good and then there's others i like pouring kinda makes or actually i think the i think the thing that kind of god me there is With the transference or face still stayed on her body and my father. What do you mean. Pretty extreme very elaborate. Kill so far. The only way that i can tell. She's not who she is as her is darker line wind for just over word and needed a lie down. A dude has like no furniture whereas supposed to sit in what happened to mammary going to the depths troy the move looks out of place with the sudan. Another dude. that's crazy asylum pictures. They need to overreact or overact. But why are they like leering. Hi donner sound the reactions. All the looks at how Supposed to be a driving own. Don't understand the reactions Statues Don't understand the reactions at all. So that's still really confused quantities. Similar reading up on this after the podcast clear up on i just saw literal interpretation of the quote bible. I they read earlier. That's probably what it is but times still confused so he just said man with maria being gone. Now what's going to do. And that's what it looks like he's wearing. It looks like he's wearing golf pants. How long has it been out for every watching this Paul you're actually don't explain this. Please do crab she apparently salsa yes apparently all the dudes water and what she does something to weird but okay crap. Ouch maria stupid. Frigging okay so like. I was saying earlier since silent film. I may watch it on the horror movie classics edition dvd. That i have just to see what the differences are with the additions in one. Not lexi where the differences are or maybe the eighty seven trivia will say something either way i really want to figure this movie out told interactions i was not anticipating true is cold okay Thought he changed and they send time lapse thing going to disappointed. Let the workers do as they please drink and be married for tomorrow. You shall die or whatever why islam machine or less. That's not really the machine and she survived with face copying. What is the real maria. Okay okay. What is she saying. Unless they're gonna do like really long card thing Close to go. Just those few words cloud the dude ever really necessary to be the mediator Changed her mind really differently than maria. Wrecking housing them earlier. He's wearing different. Clothes wasn't even twenty-seventh seriously that kind of punching i don't think really works the choreographies amazing Limbaugh posted can show this. This is very anti-climactic. It's probably the way things well. Obviously it's the way things are done back then. But wow ohio's friend georgie. Excuse me georgie. We hardly knew the club. His name was robert poulsen all the women so they stay home all the men were really want to know how this clone or machine works. Were over analysing. But i'm just so confused as to how i just went down really fast earlier. Mean really wasn't calling out was religion than i figure there being religious overtones. Whatever you wanna call it climbing to. There's no way pass those bars go on. Don't break the element. I don't like to look that looks. I was going to but if those are metal mars. Do you know a roll call. Look like everybody was just year. Hsun assume things calm really awesome there. You go symbolism is very intriguing to earlier when the dude was seeing the machines eating the people no is but uh-huh he realized now trapped. You know security cameras really big phone. What's going on worker revolt. He seems really come home way. What he wants him to home. Why under fell to do you just do it. Dudes you know if you refer to fully open. He won't even have to bother climbing and expand all that energy. Overtake you for their. Listen to you jimmy. Frigging people man. This maria version one show expressions Really does seem like they boston. Frigging minds is leaving. Holy crap policy. How this movie bankrupt nearly bankrupted the studio in the extras. I think i was mentioned. Pension essentially trapped crap. They're all trapped Do think you offer guy your kids think everybody got off but then you forget all your kids. Wow your kids sheesh something here you think. Now let's just keep going. Everything will be fine crowley. Just keep comment. Were coming out of the walls too. I mean common a of vermoti strength that she's trying to keep on lever down and she's trying to put on my down down. Pull the other one down to english. Kids there Think we roll or friends. What about their kids. Line uh-huh short pulls cheese. I can't tell kids coming out. Holy crap how are you able to. How are you maintaining. Holy crap climbdown. That means theoretically they should be able to climb backup. One of the little kids is the levers. He's just trying to get everyone's attention. Do they see their parents. Frigging leave stopped ringing the figure. There's four you need to be leaving on kissing smooching in front of the kids drowning. Thank you hoes. Tallest marie as plan before this water advertisement. Okay we're good easy down now. Are you sure you're getting all the kids parenting people. I would not do well. It's either that or drown by. That's way too many many people social anxiety to the stream a Okay so okay again. I'm sorry i have to ask. How cramped is he maintained. Grant because if your hands are wedding. You're touching metal. Assume it'd be at least a little slippery specialist since you're ol- soaking what not going to bring the workers frigging dot com of kids. You can make that is a real horrible exit strategy for but exit. Have all the kids. I'm going to take that as a year asks what happened to the to the workers the beginning of the movie. When you're chasing the one woman that has totally disappeared now. Excuse me the city was destroyed. Holy crap worst parents ever because it looks like dancing in bed the whole time. Their kids were trying to escape from being drowned their children. They wanna be asking me love to know actually whistling whistle like that two person. You don't deserve kids going into same foods under we're gonna buy your power being now. Describe all the lights candles lamps and whatever learn about until. Now you're an idiot. Because maybe they were hacked. So i don't know i don't know what her frigging power is. She just seems to have this weird magnetic. Paul don't understand movies almost over my phone's at thirty seven percent and i started out one hundred the and one non take a fair amount of time. Tara do my best another audio file. Probably going to watch this movie. Saddam control it on the on the horror classics. Dvd edition whatever. Curious sounds repeating myself at this point. I'm sorry this is weird as crud interesting. Holy crap the thing with the parents wild really messed up will include like i said our they have kill the wrong maria. They were still in the city. She doesn't position as he seems to be like the leader. Whatever line the same one but just blame her for weren't you children u. Which i don't know maybe it's drowning because you guys decided to go up and destroy the machines and you're like everybody on. Yeah we're fine on the kids are kids are with us outsell. This works just fall. Let's blame her thorir lack of parental responsibility. These guys don't even seem the healthy. Have kids 'cause they don't seem to insane Stay human too actually got her machine. Whatever the kids you needed a face from the simpsons children from crowd. I've seen too many movies. i don't remember into shows. Don't remember all these references are because there was this one person that screams someone please think of the children. It's probably the simpsons person though. Talk bring your kids off. Believe him to are. They going the full romeo and juliet dude. How did you. That's not marie pointed. I how can you think she's ninety goal and stuff close a real one say about people who are willing to burn someone hurst. No machine man or woman is right there. How can friedrich nazi non murray. When he pointed it out earlier dude would know too because he can do the whole she will listen to my command. Staying holy crap is really ho- geez. She has pretty man spinning make you sick oppressive upper body strength. She's even weird. Romeo and juliet Concur holy for a kidney punches. Yes did not do his job because he never ever did. Not keep a close eye on his son Saw sooner where're they forge though. No i'm not actually what you'd asking where where where are they mhm. Foregin crazy stamp pyro. Plants run for his money not the cliffs of insanity but really do even phase them think the father up. Now i mean it's probably shock which is fair but off folks Dude is free. No children still other kids with them. They do word holy crap. Who only the trivia. We'll explain it. I'm gonna do some reading on this to see the cramped. Just how the mediator Uh-huh wow okay. Well i need to get up so behind the scenes. I'm going to get up and stretch. Because i was a long long movie. Collect my thoughts. I'll find some intermission music or something even though for you. It'll be like straight straight to the trivia trivia Back how long outbreak was long white. Getting right to it then trivia much to fritz lang's dismay adolf hitler and joseph goebbels. I think that's how you say we're big fans of the film. Goebbels met with lying and told him that he could be made an honorary aryan despite his jewish background. Goebbels told him mr laying. We decide who is jewish and who is not laying laugh repairs that very night. Unemployment and inflation were so bad in germany at the time that the producers had no trouble finding five hundred malnourished children to film the flooding sequences rigid. Hells robot costume extremely uncomfortable to wear. Helms suffered greatly underneath it as a cut and bruised her zo. Fritz lang insisted that she had to wear it. No optical printing system existed at the time so to create a matter of fact. A large mirror was placed at an angle to reflect a piece of artwork while live footage was rejected on onto the reverse to expose the projected footage and silvering on the back of the mirror. Had to be screamed off in strategically appropriate places. One mistake could ruin the whole mirror. This was done for each separate shot that had to become posited in this manner. This procedure was developed by eugene. Ten shufen and is known as the shouf tin process. The multi exposed sequences were not created in a lab but right during the filming on the set. The film is rewound the camera in an exposed to gamma right away. This was done up to thirty times. Film included more than thirty. Wow more than thirty. Seven thousand extras including twenty five thousand men. Eleven thousand women one thousand one hundred bald men seven gs seven hundred and fifty children known hundred dark skinned people in twenty-five asians. Three hundred and ten shooting days were required. I that enjoy making the film. Adele like much after his time was so influential on superman creators. Jerry siegel and joe joe shuster that they name their character city after it. I did notice similarities between the movie metropolis in metropolis in superman. So that doesn't surprise me for decades who this is a long one for decades. All survived a metropolis. We're an incomplete. Original negative in copies of sheridan reedited foreign released prince over a quarter of the film. Muslims believed lost however in july two thousand journeys magazine. I know i pronounce. Zaid ride by magazine is e on and reported. The discovery of a sixteen millimeter dupe. Negative copy of the film at the point is areas museum. Museo del sur pablo microsoft. Wow that was white. This whole thing is white sounding ducros hardy by film historian collector fernando martin panya up until then all that was known was that her original full length thirty five millimeter expert. Print had been sent to argentina. Nine hundred twenty eight loss officially documented screening of this version had occurred in the nineteen fifties and was considered lost however since thirty five millimeter film is more hazardous to keep in those days. The nitrate inside the negative could sometimes ignite preservers would often make a sixteen millimeter negative copy of the original film. That was easier to store what prompted the discovery was at margin penny remembered stories from argentinian movie operators claiming screened virgin a metropolis of over two hours long in the nineteen eighties hawk. I remember to breathe on reading this. The only known versions at that time are all considerably shorter. This version had probably been part of a private collection. I was later donated to the museum under finally getting permission to search the museum. Archives martin penny found these surviving. Sixteen mil navy. Your copy examining the reels in buenos aires. Cinema experts realize the copy at a relatively poor picture quality mainly because it had also copied all the damage from the original thirty five millimeter film. That had been worn from years of use. The copying process from thirty five to six millimeter film also meant that some parts of the frame had been lost nevertheless the real contained almost all of the previously missing sequences around twenty five minutes worth of footage predominantly those involving the thin man who fis on frieder and worker. One one eight one one heading to in from yoshahara. I think you said additionally in october two thousand eighty was announced at another hopefully early copying awfully nine point. Five millimeter format had been held in the university of chile's film library intentionally mislabeled to avoid destruction during nineteen seventy. Three's military coup. It is as yet unknown. If it's holds any further viewable footage the missing scenes from the two thousand eight sixteen millimeter copy cleaned up. As best as possible reframing the into the four three aspect ratio to messy original footage in re edited into the film based on the original screenplay after almost eighty years. The film is now practically complete barring sections such as frieder listening to priests giving a sermon on the coming apocalypse. John frieder sens on sorry. Joe feeder sens fight with wrought. Vong i think as i said the robot. Oh this film by look for for three appeal and star wars episode. Four new hope being one of the most expensive movies of the time. You can definitely see that costing around five thousand. New five million marks wonder how much oslo that up later. I guess this film nearly sent you. Fa universum film into bankruptcy adjusting for inflation. I hear it is the body for metropolis. Five million rakes reichmarks reichsmarks ran around two hundred million in june. Two thousand seven. The film takes place in twenty twenty six. He really can't tell that it's a futuristic film. I mean let's see future. Yes the underground city. i guess. Anyway i wanted four thousand bald xers for the tower of babel sequence. Eric i think as i said could only find one thousand willing to shave their heads. Since the theme was shot in the spring he's got to swelter under the hot sun shooting exteriors as they hold prop rocks in real tree trunks across the landscape. Some got sunburn other scouts. From the lengthy shoot after shooting. Or the shod run through the obstacle multiplier to make a one thousand extra seem like the four thousand he had originally wanted. Wow this film took almost a year and a half to shoot for the us version. Herrmann hired playwright channing pollock to write the rewrite the film around fritz lang's footage. He created an entirely new story. Blamed all of the action on a greedy employees in and identify many of the now that's revolting workers as soulless robots for the film's. Us released paramount replacing ufo logo with its own ratio credits. Waiting refused to see this version. Rod vons mechanical right. Hand is later imitated in dr strangelove. Or how i learned to stop worrying and love the bomb nine hundred sixty four. I have seen that. I don't remember much of the nightmare. In which workers are fed to moloch. I think as i say was filmed in the middle of winter despite the lights and several heaters. The studio was extremely cold special hardship on the exercise. Most of them on employment who had to walk naked into the mouth of god for slain took so many days filming the sequences assistance feared. The extras will revolt. Finally eric palmer. Things said palmer came to the informed. The director that he had more than enough footage already. You needed to stop wonder what else. Fritz lang has done long long long. I on ice adam. Sorry farmers pronouncing his name. The salish shots of the city with cars planes and elevated trains moving about were shot using. Stop motion photography. I can tell the airplanes. The cars are modelled. On the newest taxicabs driving the streets of berlin. You took months to build a city model several days to film the few short sequences then the lab or the first off the backgrounds in the shot had been dimly lit to create a greater sense of depth but the head of the lab developed. The film himself decided that was a mistake and lighten the backgrounds thereby destroying the sense of forced perspective perspective from the chase across the rooftops. Brigitte held in rudolf klein. Rogge really guess. I should learn to herman actually had to climb across the top of the exterior sets as on on planks. Twenty five feet off the ground at the end of the sequence hell without the benefit of a stone woman had to leap for the rope attached to the all had for the roped dash so they can theater was bell mattresses replace in the event of a fall. The height was still make the stunned dangerous. She caught the first driving. Slowly slid down down at the renew. Meltsa winning walls bruised and battered. She fled the said in tears. Wow look the connection of film to the nazi regime is quite remarkable. Say von who was fritz. Lang's wife was an ordinance early supporter of the party. Notably adolf hitler but all the inner circle were entranced by the filming considered it as a sort of social blueprin laying of jewish. The fear offered in the past for his ingenuity envision. Very rare in nazi germany like i said earlier. He fled to paris then. Eventually america for the explosion of the heart machine. Fritz lang refused to use dummies hall. How i mean not a bad thing. Just amazing okay. Anyway refused to use dummies Standards for the workers thrown out. He insisted that will look phony. So actress for to be hooked harness belts thrown through. Smoke seem and fire delight in the mood before shooting. He insisted that his assistant gustaf sure. I think charles harness and then had him yanked almost to the top of the sound. Stage left of their during filming. Yoon sister the extra show pain even though there are no close ups fortunately for him. They already were in pain. Wow i want to know what else this guy's done. He sounds. this is insane. The flooding underground scene took three weeks to shoot as fritz lang. Wanted to get the scene just right. The teddy huge impact on the health of the act as also water out of constant low temperature. Oh man standing on the deck of the ss douche land. I'm sorry for pronounciation in nineteen twenty four in new york harbor with his producer friend. Eric palmer director fritz lang found agreed inspiration in the neon lit towers of stone and glass. The image would form the bedrock of metropolis. Excuse me this was the first film ever to be registered in the memory of the world register of the u. n. e. Seo in two thousand and one. This was one of the world's first feature length science fiction movies forsling would frequently demand numerous retakes into two days to shoot a simple scene. Were frieder collapses meritas feet. By the time language satisfied with the footage he had shot actor gustaf freely found. He could barely stand the effects expert. Eugene shufen shaft. Arriving shouf tim created pioneering visual effects metropolis among the effects are miniatures of the city. A camera on a swing and most notably the shootin process. We talked about this which mirrors are used degree. The illusion that actors are occupying miniature says. This new technique was seen again two years later in blackmail nineteen twenty nine. Fritz lang started shooting with different actor. Cast has frieder during the early days of shooting. however fail. vaughn harpo notice the good-looking gustaf foy. One of the actors cast a worker. When the first russia's featuring inside with iran the first russia's featuring free frieder proved does factory series lane to let their original actor cast froyo leak in for leak in the part thing. I had his name. I'm losing the restored. Version of two thousand one was based on a digital restoration at two thousand resolution from the best available sources that known to exist. The quality far surpass surpassed anything seen since the original release of the film bridgen. Helm recalled her experiences of shooting the film and contemporary interview. Saying that the nights tonight shots lasted three weeks in university of lead to the greatest dramatic effect moments. You've we did follow. Fritz lang directions as though in a trance enthusiasts in enraptured at the same time i can't forget the incredible terrain the that they put us under the work wasn't easy and the portrayal ended up testing nerves. Now and then for instance in fun at all when wrought drags me by the hair. Dami burnett steak once. I even fainted. During the transformation scene maria as android is claimed in a kind of only kind of wooden armand in because the shot took so long. I didn't get enough air. The scene in which scantily. I'm sorry my kinda hurting a moment. Sorry right there all right. The scene in which scantily clad dancers and nightclub patrons spill out into the streets was filmed on hoochies. On a chilly spring night he was still cold. that's keep the shurmur bowing frizz lang order flasks of cognac. For them when that ran out actor alfred abel offered his co. into one of the dancers law nice guy. Fritz lang insisted that brewed how she'd where the robot costume with stunt double during the transformation scene in in which you talked about helm actually fainted as the shot took so long as you couldn't get enough air in the restricting costume. The latest cut of the film incorporating the extra material from the argentinian print. Premiered at the Learn ale the berlinale pronouncing heavily. I'm sorry festival in berlin on twelve february. Two thousand ten utilizes in the original gold gottfried who brits score sleep on drew heavily on biblical sources for several of its key pieces during a i talk to the workers. Maria uses a story of the tower babble to highlight the discord between the intellectuals and the workers additionally a delusional frieder imagine. Imagine the false marie as the horror of babylon riding on the back of many headed dragon. All that explains that seeing also the name of the yoshi you wore a club loosened the famous red light district of tokyo district. Red light district. Remember what i said instead of that. I'm sorry look at the film's premiere in berlin. on january. ten to twenty seven. The audience burst into applause as some of the more spectacular scenes duplicate thing. But the st- i guess place. More emphasis reportedly one of adolf hitler's favourite scenes boy. The machine mench the machine in mench mortgages. Okay the bill by rod vong. She resurrect his lost love. Hell as you say was created by sculptor. Walter shoals middendorp a whole body plaster cast was taken off taken off actress. Brigitte helm in. The caution was then constructed around it chance. Discovery of a symbol plastic would apply -able substance to dislodge designed as filler allowed. Shull smitten dwarf to build a costume. That would excuse me. Appear metallic and allow a small amount of free movement. Vong shows frieder sohn. The robot is bridget. Hell not a stunt performer inside the rob cheese. The robot costume which. I think we've covered. There's just a lot of trivia so if any of this is repeated. I apologize ahead of time. It's hard to keep track of others eighty-seven visitor up. The cost of the film was mostly composed of unknown actors. Heinrich george was the per gustaf. Foy leak was a journalist. Nineteen year old hell who had no previous dang who had no previous film experience though she had given the trial shots for j. di or di nibbles login. Sink freud home. I'm so sorry. were halfway. Free huber's music played a prominent role during the film's production. Sometimes the composer played piano on the set in order to inform the actress performances. One of the major changes. That giorgio. Moroder i think made in his nineteen eighty-four version of the film was to change the intertidal who subtitles to accelerate the pacing. Oh i really wish they had done that. That would have that would have helped. So much science fiction author. She wells called this. Quite the silliest fill in a scathing review he wrote that i do not believe it'd be possible to make one sillier comes from the great ufa's studios in germany and the public is given to understand that has been produced at enormous cost gives in one ending concentration. Almost every possible foolishness. Cliche platitude a muddle meant about mechanical progress. In progress in general served over the sauces sentimentality. That is all its own was chosen by premier magazines magazine as one of the one hundred movies that shook the world in the october. Nineteen ninety eight issue. The list ranked the most daring. Louise ever made okay. We already covered. How many extras normalization. The robot is described as a woman of glass and metal and her name parody. Maria features are sculpted onto his face by rod vong itself using maria as a guide two and a half hours in length. Film cannot be shown enough times in a day to return you. Phase investments soon enough as a result the entire company was restructured with new conservative. With the new more conservative board of directors the fills marxist politics they pulled from theaters in the spring of one thousand nine hundred ninety seven the film's plot originated from a novel of the same title. Run by von harpo for the sole purpose of being made into a film. The novel intern drew inspiration for. May she wells shelly. In villiers dodd. Dodd the dial adams works in other german dramas the novel feature strongly in the film's marketing campaign and with serialized in the journal. I'm going to butcher this luster tests law in the run up to its release. Harpo inland collaborated on the screenplay derived from the novel several plot points informatics elements including most of the references to magic into cultism. Present in the novel were dropped in the english version of the film. All references towards the character hell results because her named because her name look too much like the english word. Hell this however eliminated autobahns original reason to create the machine man with your face. Still in financial difficulties businessman. Alfred hubbard took charge in the studio of the films still further to remove any marxist in religious materials footage of this film is using the british rock band queen's music radio for radio gaga writer. David foster wallace wanted to make a photo fizzling. Directing this film to cover was most famous novel infinite jest. This was most likely due to how harsh the director was on his cast and crew putting them through a physically strenuous in grueling. Shoot this went along with themes in the novel in which metropolis is mentioned. several times. Wallis was denied permission to do so as as publishers feared his eleven hundred page book was difficult enough to market. Already the book went on to be bestseller and walter remain bitter about the cover cannibal in january nineteen twenty six. Ufa executives meant to determine what to do about the increasingly costly production wishing nowhere near completion. They consider pulling the plug but instead settled on firing eric hosmer thing as i said from his position as head of the studio to running interference on their production until april when he left her job at paramount. Pictures in the us. When fritz lang was visiting the west in nineteen twenty four for the premiere of. I'm going to butcher this name again. De nibble angan seek freud nineteen twenty four. He had his initial inspiration from a jobless when all the new york skyline he tasked his wife say along harpo giral. All they later collaborated on the screen plant selected by the vatican in the art category list of forty five. Great films you. They needed financial help from fame. Frong famous players and metro goldwyn to the tune of four million dollars to complete the most elaborating extravagant film and european history. Vein never recovered its investment in the film in an interview. Fritz lang reported that the film was born for my first sight of the skyscrapers in new york in october. Nineteen eighty-four as we previously had said. He had visited new york for the first time in remarked. Look into the streets. The glaring lights in the tall buildings and there. I can see you to metropolis. Excuse me during his first impressions of the city lang said that. The building seemed to be a vertical. Sale scintillating scintillating cheese. I'm sorry for mispronouncing. Even the basics scintillating. They were in very light luxurious backdrop suspended in the dark. Skied at dazzled distracting. Him a ties. He added the site of new. New york. smelled alone. Should be now to turn this speaking of beauty into the center of a film all multiple exposures were done in camera with the film rebound in re exposed for some scenes disregard up to thirty different exposures. We talked as production costs. Push you toward bankruptcy. Okay perfect i'm reading all trivia. The studio has signed a deal with paramount. Pictures and mgm that created paraphernalia meant to release the to us studios films in germany. It also do the studio's distribution rights in the us and other territories. Ufa's films in the right to alter those films as they saw fit her foods. Cut the picture to about one hundred and fifteen minutes. Excising in man's pursuit of freighter into hoes a fad in much of the back story about rod songs. Pass romantic rivalry with frieder. Sohn october nineteen eighty-four. The world premiere of digital sound in motion. Picture theater took place using more tourist. Digitally recorded version of metropolis orchestrated by john. Allen of high performance stereo the event took place in the majestic century plaza theater in los angeles and was an invitation only invitation only event consisting of a few hundred sound professionals in the industry since the technology placing digital sound on film and not exist at the time the five track discrete audio was recorded on an indus industrial sony. Three three twenty four digital tape recordings sinked with a picture. The sound system used to present this historic event was jon allen. H ps four thousand system. And how the tuesday power evil attend since symphony orchestras hook. Monte appropriate propagandist joseph. Goebbels was impressed with the film's message of social justice in the nineteen twenty speech. He declared that the political berge wall said is about to leave the stage of history in its place. Advance the oppress producers of the head in hand the forces of labor to begin their historical mission in order to create the robot costume talked about the famed authors cheese feigned science fiction author h g wells. Hated this film which we discussed however he was inspired to write things to calm. Nineteen thirty six as an alternative might have to check that out the no record for commentary. The american copyright lapsed in one thousand nine hundred eighty three which eventually led to a proliferation of versions being released on video along with other foreign made works. The film's us. Copyright was restored in nineteen ninety six but the constitutionality pronounced of this copyright extension was challenged golan golan versus gonzalo hand as golan versus holder was ruled that in the united states. That body of law includes the bedrock principle that works in the public domain remain in the public domain removing works from the public domain violated plaintiff's the first amendment interests this only applied to the rights of so called reliance parties i e parties who had previously relied on the public domain status restored works. The case was overturned. Own appeal to the ten circuit in. That decision was upheld by the. Us supreme court on january eighteenth twenty twelve the effect of restoring the copyright in the work has of january first nineteen ninety-six under current us. Copyright law remains copyrighted until january first. Twenty twenty three. That's coming up. Fritz lang in his team travel to united states where they acquired to mitchell cameras. The cameras contain the revolutionary mitchell movement which included a set of registration pins that would hold each frame steady as was being exposed. This resulted in their reputation for shooting. Rock steady images. Excuse me this became crucial for this film and shooting special effects especially when portions of the film were exposed during multiple phases of the film stock. The various models of the mitchell cameras became the industry standard throughout the nineteen fifties one of the earliest examples. Closer it's television. Shown on film when joe Speaks to the guardian of the heart machine. Only the dude who was like. Hey where your kids godfried. Hooper's drew inspiration from richard wagner richard strauss strauss and combined to classical orchestral voice with mild modernist to modernist touches to portray the fills massive into industrial city workers one of the designers builders of the giants team power machine in the film. As albert's sam famed by trade was a rigor in elevator. Men in the airship industry surprisingly many hair shipman like salt is how to pronounce it. Who were looking for work at the time to positions as technical crew in the motion picture industry upon returning work in the german airship. Industries song was eventually promoted to captain. Captain albert. sh ma soft oggi's entire psalms under the command captain maximilian preuss or process. I think it's i served as first officer of de l z. One twenty nine hindenburg song to his amongst the surviving crew. The nineteen thirty seven disaster. Who to build excitement for this film film. The original novel serialized in the popular german magazine pronounce lust tree two blocks in the months preceding. The film's release the pre lewd over sixty minutes. Screenplay itself went through many rewrites in a one point featured in any refresher would have flown to the stars as plot element later became the basis for fritz. Lang's woman in the moon nineteen twenty nine. The film is included on ebert. Great movies list. The score was score was re recorded for the two thousand one. Dvd release the film of the burn. Sorry burnett burnitz heller conducting the geez pronounce in the way that i know how i'm sorry. Run funk's in reform ni. Orchestrators are brucan was paul who included among the one thousand one movies. You must see before you die. Ended by steven jay schneider. You invited several trade journal. Representatives and several film critics films shooting as parts of its promotion campaign the film's restored re-cut to you subtitles. Instead of inter titles retention but different colors restored with a synthesizer music featuring nineteen seventy nine. Nine hundred seventy nine one thousand nine hundred stars bonnie tyler freddie mercury adamant or aunt a. n. t. pat bene- tar in loverboy nineteen eighty-four. This modernized version goes by the title giorgio mortar presents metropolis for more a endure or however we said you're owed much of the news we're not done yet ranked number sixteen on english speaking film. The critics poll conducted by the bbc in two thousand eighteen in certain versions of the film. Fritz rasp ross. Credit is playing slim in some international versions in the credits. Heinrich george or horror is mistaken for france rest the versus the bible. The monk is pointing to with hand just before the robot is seen for the first time are revelation seventeen three through six. Oh cool the film. One of you'll more yield more back here more. You're no there you'll more jeeze toro's personal favourite sahar he. This film is in the official tall two hundred and fifty narrative feature films on letterbox. More brigitte helm said in contemporary interview. The amount of pressure that fritz lang put upon them was immense. Shooting took well over a year in some of the demands. They face from the tour from their director put strain on their physical health during the scene. In which the false. Mary is burned at the stake. Lane instructed the actor playing brought to grab and drag him by the hair which he showed to do according to many sources. Helms dress caught alight during the same scene as ling frequently demanded numerous retakes holy crap. Fritz lang insisted on using real fire for the climactic scene where the falls. Marie has burned at the stake which resulted in brigitte. Helm dress catching fire and we already heard about the no. No we didn't fritz. Lang ordered extra throw themselves towards powerful jets of water when filming the flooding of the workers. City rod vong has memorial monument to hell while spine at hell while is explained that hell was the late wife of shelf readers. Hell is also the nor scotus in charge of the halls of hell or underworld her name and the location often shortened to hell simply to hell which gave us the word. Eighty double hockey sticks were synonymous with death. To be blunt rod vong quite literally worshiping death which explains which helps explain his plans his plan for the mechanical maria in keeping with biblical themes joseph Common short of jehovah's the fat. Because i don't know how to say the actual shortened version the biblical joseph was a priestly king of ancient. You of judah known for generally being a good and fair leader in learning promise mistakes a fitting moniker for fritters friend. Who gets fired by. Joe frazier said in that. I go to look up the trivia for the next movie breather to go on as long as i did. I really thought this would be ten to fifteen minutes. Holy was an epic amount of trivia. speaking got the trivia. Hold four vampire bat. Which is the next movie. Which i have never seen. There's only nine of trivia on that has for this movie a classic or a dud very difficult thing because it was interesting enough. Why there's so much going on in such a long movie that it's honestly it's difficult for me personally to appreciate the plot as for the amount of trouble that the extras the cast. Probably even the crew. What everybody went through the fact audience inspired so many other science fiction properties in comic books is an amazing feat. No i dare say this is a class. There's so much has happened and you can if not a cheap film like the acting yance overacted. But they're silent film actors. We talked about the trivia is not even an actor. Okay yes a classic long story short and thank you for sticking with me for as long as the health. Not only is this movie in epic length but so was this podcast if you agree or disagree with my segment of being a classic you email me at g. wrong one and geeks podcast gmail.com or you can comment yeah. Gl docile sites dot com. 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Spy vs. Spy (Live from Pod vCon: Spring Break 2021)

SpyHards Podcast

46:06 min | 7 months ago

Spy vs. Spy (Live from Pod vCon: Spring Break 2021)

"Hello and welcome to spy. Hards focused i in scott. And i'm cam the provocateur. And usually we would go deep undercover into the world of spy movies and usually we strictly for your is only but this week. We're doing something a little bit different right. We're gonna call this spy versus spy versus spy versus spy versus spy etc. You get the picture. I think i'm starting to get it but tell us a little more about what we're actually doing. We're gonna pick eight of the greatest film. Spies of all time against each other to determine who is the greatest spy on screen of course of all time with got some interesting pick says probably a couple that we've missed out but i'm sure people can write to us and say how dare we but so we think we've. We've picked the cream of the crop. Really yeah i apologize. Made her fans from cars too. You'll be very fans of triple x. Yeah the movie of course. Of course thanks for clarifying that. Can as a but basically as counsel said we're gonna bracket them off against each other in sort of a battle. Royale warmers sensor breakdown. Down until eventually we have a one bus one. But i think what we'll do to start off as set out the full initial fights and insult to differ. Yeah i think that sounds perfect. Yeah so should we start with round one. I think okay so round one. We're gonna pit jason born against johnny english so matt damon versus rohan atkinson. I think in the world of fair fights this may be the first of all well saying a transatlantic podcast. I am clearly british. I might have to lobby for johnny english on on this one. You may have been more for jason bourne. But i think if they go head to head. I tend to think. Jason bourne would probably break johnny his neck. Okay so let's look at johnny english here because i think people know born pretty well. You know they've had four movies with him. It must with jeremy renner. But we don't count erin cross dammit But johnny english okay. You've seen more johnny english movies than i have. What skills does johnny english bring to the table. Fumbling fumbling and fumbling. He's a smooth talker. What he wants to be. He tends to sort of fall into making things happen. He's definitely more reactive than proactive. Okay so now. I'm picturing a fight between the two of them is sort of like that scene in tenant where he's fighting the guy who's moving backwards picture is like jason board is throwing punches in johnny. English is somehow fumbling dodging punches. But i will say enjoy. English is defense. I think at the start of the cerdan movie might be the second. He's training in martial arts shallan monks so he's had surreal training and jason bourne has got on a lot of his life so at least one guy has all these memories and experiences. Who is the more successful agent at the end of the day when you look at the movies who pulls off their missions. The best i think english pose of the best. He gets the job done in the end but Jason has quite short career as a spy. I would say as a few missions. In has lucius memory. Fools over or something against shaw gets shot. A couple times falls off a boat kind of interesting. They're actually again. I've only seen the first johnny english many years ago. But i seem to recall in that one. The female lead did a good portion of the spy work for him. That's certainly the case with born. Like i feel johnny. English depends on assistance a lot more so shutout What are you talking about. Franken was the the pinnacle of Identity she kept that filmgoing. Now not necessarily briefly. I who was He's bongo if you will in. That film did do a lot of stuff. We had a very hilarious turn from john malkovich in what might have been the worst french accent i've ever heard. That's quite a claim in the world of french accents in film and they is. Yeah because i feel like when it comes to johnny english. that's generally. Isn't that a bit of the joke that he's kind of bumbler blur and it's other characters. Who are far more capable rolling their eyes or about him of cleaning up around him basically. Yeah that's kind of stick whereas jason and you could actually if you gave him a mission. He was fully ready to go. There was no baggage that girlfriends. 'cause he would probably get the job done and feel like jason bourne is like a bullet like you can't stop him once he's launched right like that's the whole thing with those movies. We get like a room full of highly trained operatives and intelligence people literally being like. it's jason bourne. We don't know what to do. It's jason bourne. I don't know that characters are doing that. Johnny english quite as much. I think that's where the audience at home. Just being surprised that they've actually gone to see him at cinema. They wound up in the rug theater room. They're like johnny. Jesus christ johnny english. I can't wait to see avatar blue. He might be. I think i've got a decision on this one. And i'm i'm gonna go with jason bowen. It's not that controversial now. I feel like this is really only one choice. So i think born makes a lot of sense because johnny english. I think we're gonna have maybe some other comedy characters that we can make more of an argument for you. Know they may be comedic but they have skills very much for trade on screen. So yeah Johnny english not so much but he did get three movies and you could do another one. Sure you got to ease. You know what he's got to do a fourth so that human been born are equal at least one thing. Yeah i if that's the reason why do fail. I think they probably need film. We didn't need jason bourne the film anyway. So yeah year. Sorry about that info greengross fair so that means born is through to round two who is up next round two is going to be austin powers. I think everyone knows. Who austin powers against harry palmer now. I don't know if everyone watching this knows who. Harry palmer is. harry palmer. Is the the lead spy in a series of british spy films from the sixties They start with the chris file funeral in berlin billion dollar brain and then there was a couple tv movies. No one talks about but nonetheless. He was kind of an icon in the sixties. British cinema played by michael caine. I should have really put that up front. Because i think that's the most important part. Michael caine pretty big name so the kind of a exactly my cocaine that guy. Yeah exactly He's kind of a more cerebral spy. More of a. How would you describe him. So i like. He's more about street level kind of down and dirty spy versus a bond who has kind of glitz and glamour to him. He's the reality of what i think spyware is. He doesn't want to go to work right right. Which we can all relate to us basically. Yeah he's he's ever wanted home right right. Yeah i. I'm not a big harry potter fan personally. But i won't let that influence my decision making in this But yet to be the file. Which is the first of the harry potter films that she being remade now By itv's here in the uk. I think he's actually being co funded by american companies. Well it will get a release after that so we will be seeing more harry palm a very soon. Plus michael caine was cast as austin powers father in the third austin powers film. Very much a riff. On the fact that michael caine was an iconic spy in harry palmer films. My suspicion was some of the blind actors. Didn't answer the call. I think that might be the case. I didn't actually know that. As a young man i i used to love. The austin powers films saw tournaments cinema. But some yeah. Seeing michael caine in the serb was just like oh cool is michael gain it because that was like the early two. Thousands of that point wasn't it. Yeah it was. Yeah you thought. They cast it because of jaws the revenge. Of course it will leave back to yours. Of course of course so in the match of harry palmer vs austin powers okay. Why don't we start with harry palmer and kind of lay this out for people. That maybe don't know him as well. Some of the other ones we're gonna talk about. What are the skills. The harry palmer brings to the table. I would say he's quite count curated in what he does he never seems to be on the back foot in all of the time that we've seen him fall. It's not often that he surprised by anything which probably as well so of a match up but he's also is quite dry. Yeah i didn't think he could have a very good repartee with austin powers. I think austin might have him on on the rights when it comes to this witness between them. Harry palmer is very analytical. Like he's the type of character it makes sense that in his third movie. He's paired off against a computer because they are of a similar kind of no nonsense. Kind of numbers guys in some ways. But eric palmer has a little bit of a rebellious edge to a bit of a little bit of a almost a mean streak. But he's not a fighter. I would say that. You're not going to necessarily put harry palmer and a fight. There is a fight famously outside royal albert hall. That's a little bit of a. It's clumsy like that's the thing when you watch a bond fight or a jason bourne fight very slick. They showed that. The agents are incredibly skilled fighters whereas harry palmer. It's kind of clumsy. It looks the way you know. If you and i started fighting outside row albert hall we'd be falling down the stairs. Awkwardly clumsily tripping. It would be embarrassing for everyone including ourselves. I can see that. Happening in the near future. But i would say he was. Fight style is quite He's reactive as well but he's also very down and dirty I have no doubt that he would a man in the bowls to get the job done. There's there's nothing outbound is he actually fights like a real fight would be. Yeah which is quite good for this thing Whereas if we're talking about austin again i see he wouldn't go for the the low blow. I think he's too much worry about what my do. Someone's mo- job I yeah too much respect for the mojo that he wouldn't go to sink to those depths. That harry palmer would. That's an excellent point now. The one thing austin powers does have is the judo chop which has been shown to be beyond effective like incredibly incredibly effective in those movies so much so we got that gag pulled like twenty seven times three movies to the point where we just kind of rolled her is by the time we got to goldmember was honest. Took him i. I've been practicing since then and drew to lockdown. I've had to my dog basically. I just hate some ranch do this now. But he knows what this means so he runs he. He does it back now. Put me to sleep every night. It's quite handy so yeah like okay. So we've said harry palmer very analytical spy kind of like a street fighter in some ways kind of those greedy skills austin powers judo chop. What else does austin powers have. What are the skills. It austin powers brings the table. Because i do think when we look at him. He is more showy in in terms of his skills on screen than a johnny english. For example another comedy character I think austin. I think he's very much a blend of what he's doing. The background travels in time from the sixties to the nineties northeastern the films and he's able to get on with real life and so i understand the world around him and acclimatize himself very quickly so if we chuck in these to the room i think austin might have a bit of a head start figuring out what to do next right but in terms of fighting style. Definitely see much in the film apart from some gum working some chops to say i think ultimately i think paul will probably give him a run for his money at least palmer is so analytical that i could see him kind of pointing out all of the sections of weakness images attacking all of those he would do it in a way that is not exciting for people to watch he. He will leave well. He'll he'll give a couple of bob's he will. He will insult austin before he beats him up. probably his person is like internally engine and then they'll fight and then i think you'll see palm take down but i think it will be a swift kick to the bulls. Yeah i hate to say that really. Because i would love to see that. It's a fair fight. But here's a question who throws the first punch. Well i suppose there's something to define the parameters of what we're doing a we put in these two in a room and telling them to fight or is it like throwing money down this best like mortal combat style like usc ufc spies. I think i think it's really a spy versus spy. Who is the ultimate spy between the two. I think we've wound up fighting because obviously so much of what these guys do in these movies ultimately ends with a shootout or this fight or something like that. But i think we are looking also at spycraft. You know harry palmer works alone for the most part. He really does work alone. Whereas austin powers you have like an elizabeth hurley character a beyond say character there helping him a lot he would be on his own in this scenario. He's also the other thing to take into mind too is like harry palmer. I think we're going to be looking harry palmer in the sixties right. Yeah so s version. Not doesn't exist does not exist. So then are we looking at austin powers in his prime in the sixties so. He's not even deficient water where it's awkward and he's kind of goofball it's like him when the swinging london is really his scene and he is totally in his in his environment there. When you gotta think austin powers graduated top of his class in it was like spy school or something like that which of course we for executed as educated in as well so educated. I just about go by. I ask for something but just about las. But he's a top spy at that point he is. The top of his game is an international man of mystery which is apparently a rank in the austin powers universe and whereas palmer is just like a lowly spy easy. He's not a top of anything in the in the films. He's you see his boss and his boss's boss. Yeah whereas really in the palace films have it and i got another point against harry palmer actually look at the list. Yeah let's look at the movies. Okay villains in harry palmer rubies getaway or you know their incomes due to nothing that harry palmer actually does vs austin powers He like really does save the day. Right is true. Any fights on the moon about qena. Yeah i think. I think for me actually. Originally i was leaning towards palm by think. You've changed the game of love it when you mentioned his allies. 'cause palace has the allies foxy cleopatra. Like you said he's got he's got fan bought on his side they turn up. I don't think our apollo will notes do himself. I mean his boss hates him. Harry palmer doesn't have a lot going for him in this in this regard versus like austin who really champions. I think i think austin powers might win this one. And i feel like he do judo chop you know in a combat scenario or he would just fire like one gunshot and have it the mission done maybe all controversially. I think maybe pomme might just walk away. I don't need this. But if he walks away he forfeits absolutely he loses. I'm happy to say that. But i could just see harry palm. Just be like yeah. Yeah is it is. It was at the e often tries to quit in all of these films. It's true and quitters never win. So austin powers moves on. Never thought i'd say that rights of palaces in round two and what are we going next. Yeah the next round. Is jack ryan tom. Clancy's character and james bond. Oh okay well. I think like i think i'm gonna have to little bit of pressure on you here because i don't know much about the jack ryan character. I haven't seen the amazon tv. Share will jones brzezinski. I think i've seen a couple of the films with harrison ford. Get to actually buy couldn't tell you much about the character himself. He's an analyst. he's not like that much of a field guy. He gets involved in missions. That kind of blow to control or something like that or there's a vendetta against him. I'm thinking of patriot. Games for example where. He's kind of on the run a little bit you know. He's getting dropped into a scenario like hunt for red october where he's played by alec baldwin. But he's not someone who you would. Not james bond here calling into the office and being like there's a faberge egg on the loose bond or sitting out. You know you're not going to do that with jack ryan because he's gonna want to sit there and run the figures figure out what the scenario is. He's he's like. He is an analytical said harry palmer's and an analytical guy but like that's really which jack ryan it's okay so then i suppose won't question to answer before we even deal with the ball inside and we'll have to also question again which jack ryan we dealing with. Okay so no. There's this new show on the air right now. But we're movie podcast so we're not going to talk about that one So we okay. I think he can knock off the ben affleck film sum of all fears. I just don't think that's a movie that people really remember it all or really acknowledged i think the same goes for the chris. Pine version shadow recruit. I think it's going to be between alec baldwin and hunt for red october or the harrison ford in patriot games and clear and present danger. I think you gotta give the edge to harrison ford. Because he did it twice. Right i would say i don't really. I've seen hunt for red october. But i and i know alec baldwin basically but then i tend to think more about showed culinary nashville right. What's his face on the poster. Yeah so i guess. Harrison ford is one. We're going to go with. Yeah no which james bond. Well we weren't using james bond to try and beat harrison ford or we just we use the naria basically that's the thing and i want to side with bond just because it would be easier. Sure i think we need to choose. We were choosing what we think. Is the definitive jack ryan at this point. In time we may get Here's the thing they're gonna make more jack ryan movies in the future. And maybe we get another actor. Who does a run of them. Really establishes that character. What i feel like harrison ford at least for our generation is probably the tried and true jack ryan on screen James bond. I think you're probably gonna go with Probably sean connery. Who's the originator of the role. Or maybe daniel craig. Because it's the current think. That was friday the two so regarding for the definitive bond which is actually a bit of a bold statement of again. Make on this one now. Then who is a defendant We've recently been covering the sean connery films on the podcast. So i'm a bit connected to his films. I would say but then is at violence level of the daniel craig films. I don't necessarily. We need that level of violence. Because if he's coming up against an analyst real boy breath is going to end well. okay okay and will you george lazenby. Oh of course of course right that the true number one he was actually recently. Well secret was recently voted as the best bond till yawovi poll. Take that as you well. It's not my favorite but some people seem to really love that you feel. Are we really going with jewish lazenby. So we're going to go with connery. I think sir. I think he he he. He made the role what it is today. Everyone does bombed has looked back at him and everyone will do. Volunteer will still look back at him. Also if you go to daniel craig and say who's definitive bond. He's gonna say sean connery. If you go to sean connery ask him he. Well he would have said. Sean connery a nice nice. Saved everybody in my world sean. Connery's attornal. he's still around so before we get to the fight of question. Then yeah who would be the worst. Pick the face. The bond himself a out. Probably i'd feel like lazenby. Because he's the least defined timothy downloading couple. But i feel like he's a very specific type whereas lazenby an actor he was a male model who is kind of moving into acting and i just feel like a lot of his performance is him being guided by the director the producers as to what they want which at that point was kind of like sean connery type so i don't know what the definitive george lazenby bond is because i'll betcha we would have gotten if we'd had three movies for example i think so i think the other thing is point out of all of the bonds. I don't think. I would want a roger moore in my corner. Well i mean. I would always want roger born by quarter hip addresses a clown or something. It would not go right. I think at least like pierce brosnan off. Join me with pop fight. It's true if it comes down to like fistfight. You don't really want roger moore although he does have a little bit although i guess he does fight occasionally but then even i'm thinking of the man with the golden gun right where there's the The fistfight at the karate school he does kick in the head but then like once everyone starts fighting he lets like his assistant. And then the two girls fight all the other karate guys while he just kind of takes off. Yeah i just. I just wouldn't feel comfortable. They could be a man. Fight with just hit making quips. On the side with a faberge egg she said plus remember he punched jaws in the mouth which seems like the stupidest move you could ever make. That'd be tickets weakness right there. How smart yeah. Good move roj. Okay knowing sean connery versus harrison ford. Jack ryan yeah. I'd say yeah okay. This is tough. Because their skill sets are so different bond it's saving the day it's outsmarting evil masterminds using gadgets. Like you know they're going out of style invisible cars all over the place who knows it is just taking on these missions that are so much larger than life right whereas jack ryan a lot of is portrayed as you know. Cia inside information or technical A lot of insight a lot of reading into figures and numbers. Yes he can use a gun if call to as we've seen in the movies but that's not like the number one thing you're going to go to him for so how do we. How do we pair these two off because even in a fight you're gonna say bond because obviously is fighting skills or just you know i know that both bond and Jack ryan fought sean bean. So good for them but yeah sure. Yeah and in. Both cases sean. Bean died horribly so good for both of them films. So i feel like the fight doesn't really make sense because i think bond is so much slicker especially if it's the sean connery bond you comparing some those fight scenes of those early connery's like you know you only live twice or something like that. He's got skills. I don't think when you said to bite it that much. I think bond walks away with it and in any scenario. Even if it's like a highly analytical thing where jack ryan has planned the whole michelle i just feel like sean connery could swagger in their figure it out and do it in style it would be like sean connery and all those scenes where he's like talking about like the vintage of brandies or whatever to 'em m and m.'s just like 007 that sort of thing that's gold was saving for next time. So yeah i think maybe harry palmer versus jack ryan would have been the one we could really perhaps haven't given four. But i think in this case bond is just just running over jack ryan. He's already strapped on his chat. Packie's jumping off to the next fight at sean connery around to me okay. Well let's move onto the next and final round one of our matches. my favorite. This one is kind of bananas. And this is ethan hunt from the mission. Impossible's played by tom. Cruise the man who can do anything Up against triple x. as played by vin diesel. The man who can do anything. The cage himself is I mean just to start off with it. Not familiar with the triple x. films we haven't covered them on the po cost yet but i recently watched the first one. It's a wild ride and it feels like two thousand and one is great but the one thing that stands out to me about both of them is that both extreme and gave air both. They're both like skydiving and wind surfing wind. But i'll take bungee jumping skydiving anything like that. I wanna see the windsurfing. See these movies. Us gets a time issue that in the first one case because he hangs off the back of the submarine thing on a cable with a parachute with the us flag on it so he just kind of wins up. I guess sure we'll go with it. None the less Yeah they're both like extreme sports guys they're both played by actors. Who refuse to acknowledge their actual age timeless timelessly. Yeah boy so the criteria here. What are we looking at. We're looking at who's the better spy in the field if you're gonna put one of them in the field who's the better one. They both seemed to deal with plots revolve around the world ending and they always finish at the last second. Both the films. I've seen recently Literally ticking clocks in the final seconds of film native. The ball mole wherever macguffin is on display. So they couldn't the crunch And they both. They both have shown that they will do whatever it to get the mission done. I just think one thing actually at the beginning of triple x. 'cause i sort It basically he says he walks alone. Yeah i think ethan hunt can rely on his friends. You've got simon pegg Forget named the joins into which Place who another champion choice from us in the van will time. Oh luther by that's it. Yeah so he's team Elsa fausto forget elsa faust and ill circuses well Yeah he's got a whole team behind him. And i think they make the mission impossible all bo. Spoilers for triple x. The return of zander cage. He has a team as well now. Mine tire faces. Oh damn so. You've got like ruby rose I can't remember who the other are they were. It's not the most memorable of movies but that was one of them. There was another one. I'm not going to spoil for those who haven't seen the movie because it's kind of a big reveal but running to. He has a team at that point. So obviously that line in triple x. Was quickly ignored when it came to You know bringing diesel back. Okay i will just make a coal for it now. I think he's hot. Wins okay Here's the thing we've seen. Ethan hunt do more extreme things that we saw zander cage and that is a guy who specializes in theory in the extreme right. Yeah i can think as he done anything that compares with like the zero altitude or whatever. It's called jump the halo jump that tom cruise does in follow or that entire helicopter scene at the end of followed. I can only speak to the first film and closely gets to that as being hit by an avalanche and in walking it off. I have begged memories of zander cage riding a motorbike on water. Not in that one but he also then have rides a car off of a bridge parachutes off of the cost so he is willing to do stuff. Yeah i feel. I feel like ethan hunt though just for the burj khalifa climbing scene in In ghost protocol alone. I don't know can be like that. Oh boy do you think zander cage would have done that. I think you were try. It might have been his demise. Unfortunately it's just not as talented and he hasn't gotten the team. I think you might say in the serb when he has a team. But you know. Eating hunt has a team from film. One meteorites These corner. It's true which will always get the win. Yeah the rest of is is the secret everything young leads. Yeah i think it's even yeah and ethan hunt. Obviously in the field is going to get the edge. Because i mean come on the disguises and everything eastern hunt is unbelievable in the field look how many times his bosses have turned on him and he always manages to make it out. Ok ethan hunt is a guy who you know will always survive these scenarios where its entire organization is crumbling. But oh we're also forgetting a line from Alec baldwin's character in mission impossible rogue nation. I think where he says like ethan hunt is the living manifestation of destiny. Dad the tom cruise right that line firm. Selfo probably probably there is no line. There is no line for for triple-x like that. Now he has some great one liners but not that last night. So i think you really have to say the living manifestation of destiny moves on to the next round in triple x. I think i'm okay so now we get around to so. This is our second of of three rounds. So let's kick off bracket number one. We've got returning champion. Jason bourne against returning champ austin powers now. We don't need to sit here and spell. Everyone's secrets out now. We we spend enough time building up the characters Let's get down to it really. I think on this one. Yeah i when powers was coming up against a more of a serious person in palm a we. We reason that he would have it with his friends. Jason bowen doesn't necessarily have friends but he's a force of nature that's true. I think i think he will boulders most of anyone on this list. Jason bourne is very formidable. You watch supremacy are ultimatum in just think of those car chase sequences the ends of those movies or just the scenes where he has to take someone down in a fight. Jason bourne never gives up jason barnes. A guy who's gonna go down with like still swing so rabid dog. He will just go once he's send and i think rabid dog actually really good too because like when he attacks he so laser focused right is austin powers. Ever laser focused laser focused. No i didn't think he is not unless women both. Yeah i mean that's all you would need to do. Is have the two of them squaring off on the street for example a woman walks by boom. Austin powers is out jason bourne doria taken down. He's already distracted. He's twisted he's like groovy baby and then just that sale game over. I can't make an argument for austin powers. There's nothing this man can do. The jason bourne can't do better and everything's gone for is that he's focused on the moon and volcano and traveled in time. But i didn't think jason bull nissan jason bourne probably not as good a photographer. This is true or a dancer. I was gonna say dancer to. I would love to see matt damon in the next few he ever comes back in born. Just the whole opening is a dance number of jason bourne dancing down the street. Jason born to dance. Yes bore born on the dance floor. That's it right away whereas the gross will get him a coil get doug lyman get. Doug lyman he'll there sure sure Go right in there right. We needed stat. So i think we're agreeing that there's not much left of austin powers after Jason bourne is done with them now. Yeah he's a. He's a puddle. Flaw say takes the one okay. This one is actually. I think maybe tougher. Which is james. Bond connery bond versus. Ethan hunt for to active franchises left. They're actually still making films. Yeah yeah. I mean there's all these like bumble a bubbling 's of another austin powers film but You know so far. That doesn't look to be the case. I like that. I said fumblings. Either way both apply and yeah born seems to be on ice as well so it really is. Yeah and ethan hunt mission. Impossible and james bond are the two that are going forward. So it's a tough acres then just the such a debt agents. They're not necessarily by great fights Than they do practice in that sort of thing but also just very good at being spies Jason born on the other side. When we'll get to him he's he is more just about taking that dog. I think on like a spy. Off between james bolandian ethan hunt. I think james has just more of an edge okay. They're both good with gadgets. So i feel like they cancel each other out there. Both in you know what ethan hunt is way better way way. Better at going undercover. He has the mosques so yeah okay. James bond is like hello. I'm celebrity super spy. james bond. I mean call me. James stock smith send john smyth. That's the one. Yeah it's like so obvious. People he just walks in and everyone's like that's clearly very well. Those secret agent names. James bond and i in the building. Yep okay so uh has a beat there as a fighter. Here's the thing. If if this was roger moore it'd be like well. I mean You know tom cruise is gonna clean his clock right But connery in his prime. We're looking to dr no or from russia with love. It's a pretty solid fight different fighting styles because of the era's but you know they're both pretty lethal if you've hurt we'll take from russia with love for for an example. If you put james bond and ethan hunt in that train Instead of right ground. I think bond is still winning. I mean you think ethan hunt really loves those gold coins that much. Well maybe wants to impress ill sur. Sure sure yeah. You know what. Because when you look at robert shaw villain in from russia with love who bond us face off with. He's gotta be about equal to what like a hunt would deal with right or like what you had is. I should say. Because remember. Ethan hunt five philip seymour. Hoffman in phnom mission. Impossible three right. I think his name was owen in that There was a bit of a struggle. it wasn't an easy fight. Didn't didn't clean please. Officials say yeah whereas robert is formidable and bond is fighting back really hard and he does beat him but yeah like i think i think bond would actually win in the fight. If we're looking at connery bond again. I think a lot of people are colored. A little bit by Growing up on c. roger moore movies or brosnan where a lot of it was just like a punch but i think yeah yeah oh many equips but connery. I think i think he takes down. Ethan hunt well. We chose the most lethal of the buttons. Except for maybe daniel craig and if it had been daniel craig. I think he's still would have won. I would push against ethan. I think he would stop all even even on. Yeah so we put in to the final. I think so. Yeah i think we. I think we kind of have to. Ethan hunt disguises. He's gotten his favor being in the field a little more. I don't know that there's much else we can compare they're both all about stopping doomsday scenarios at the very last minute so that kinda cancels itself out as well. I think it really is gonna come down to a fistfight. In this case which i think bond gets the edge so yeah i think james bond okay so in our dying minutes now is bombed versus born. That's the ultimate battle anyway. Rarely we could probably talk about it for hours. But we know we're going to time. So i'm just gonna fry while i think is the winter i think has to be james bond. You see. I didn't expect to go there. I thought you might actually bend to jason bourne. Because i just thought i don't know that bond could beat jason bourne in a fight in a fight. Maybe not but i think the the spy world overall he would probably outwit jason bowen. He would use his guile in just and just he would along with him. You think he would win a win like jason boorda's outwitting like a room full of like highly trained. Cia members g. train vices. Strathern joan allen's character. All these people. I i just feel like james had so much experience and jason's lost to let stuff and he's he's more just like this reactive physical presence whereas i think bombed would probably defuse the fight for even happen in having taken down and if he did have to fly and he probably outwitted. Personally what do you think. The one thing is jason bourne. It's all about him being on the run he doesn't want to be there right. I think that that is a little bit of a knock against it. Because i feel like bond would be going into stop Is jason bourne trying to stop on. Or as jason borjas. Trying to get away from bond. I could see yeah sending bunged off the born because of some thing that happened that you can make up. I'm sure i think bond were taken down because let's look at some of the agents that born has fought you dash for example in the ball to made them. You've got karl urban character in In supremacy you think that those assassins are superior to james bond. Not okay you think. James bond would beat them. I'm pretty sound james bond. Yeah i think okay well. I've got a game games. We've got a couple of minutes here so we're going to say i think connery bond wins right So we've decided connery bond wins the spy off. I don't know that. That's the biggest. Shocker the world but i think there's some other interesting things to say let's just have the same matchup briefly and say okay. It's jason bourne. He's using the finals against lazenby bond. Where do you stand. I think jason bomba taken down. I think so too. I think there's more. Youthful kind of recklessness in that bond versus the connery and i used his spy. Work is one of the reasons why i think he takes jason bourne down where. I don't think we see as much of that secret service. I think he's more just kind of going through the motions in the film which is no lazenby full. It's all yeah. I think he would lose. I also think his brosnan would lose. I don't think daniel craig Lose okay you think dalton and craig would beat jason bourne. I think more and lazenby would lose. Yeah i mean okay. Timothy has that killer instinct is is like you totally. I can see it. He doesn't have the physical prowess you see of daniel craig bond. But i'll bet you if they had made those timothy dalton movies now he would have. It's just ninety nine thousand nine hundred seven film. That's not what they were focused on hugely in those in that era a lot of it is just like gunplay in movies right. That's what they were more focused on versus like. Yeah i would love to watch a roger moore versus jason bourne fight. I think it'd be low rolling around. And silly gags happens. Slide whistles he exactly that iran crocodiles try and get away and yeah ultimately it would be a quiet quick end. Okay yeah. unfortunately what about woody allen. David niven from the casino royale. Peter sellers or the fifteen other james bond movie. I don't. I honestly think. I could ever even try to answer. That question anyone's ever tried to answer that question. David niven versus jason bourne last. No yeah exactly. So i yeah i think that wraps up our bracket i mean were you shocked that bond one no. I thought we give them around from his money. And i also thought if palm got free he might give him a run for his money but ultimately. I think we've just seen so much of a back. Catalog of james bond of wages. No he basically deal with anything. Yeah so maybe ethan hunt just needs another twenty movies. And then we'll give him the prize or two black told. God help us drought. Triple triple-x xxx number. Say that's exactly what we need obama. Yes as you say is exactly new. But james bond is the man. He is alice by. And i think that brings us to an end so I wanna thank Become for having us. It's been great and you can of course find basically on social media spy hans as sby h- h a r d s and. We have new episodes every tuesday where we tackle the best and worst of spy films espy. Why h. a. r. d. s. Make sure you find us before we find you.

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USMNT Gold Cup roster reaction! Who should start? Who was snubbed? Plus, Tom Bogert on the open transfer window

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USMNT Gold Cup roster reaction! Who should start? Who was snubbed? Plus, Tom Bogert on the open transfer window

"Exactly how i find out what's going on in the fed laws. Maybe this podcast is good as well. Everybody up here. Every single day goes into the amish into the laboratory trying to great stuff. You guys From new york new york you are listening to experts. I've driven by dental tire. At and t. Five virtual studios. I'm andrew abby with my single solitary loan partner and soccer. there is but one. He is strong he is mighty he brings his takes flaming every single. Show charlie davies. What's up man. It's just the two of us we're we're we're going to carry the show. We i mean it was never in doubt. It wasn't and i'm height. We're talking about the. Us wins casualty. Let's go directly. We just got off the conference. Call with gregg berhalter. The gold cup roster is out canada's gold cup roster is out as well. There's some big news with them. Iowa canola has committed to canada. But there's no jonathan david on that roster. Which is we'll go into that. Mexico's is not out. But we have a pretty good feeling that i was going to bring the first team which makes for an interesting gold cup. We've seen that before. We have the transfer window flying open. It is check your calendars right now. Maybe you're listening. On friday or otherwise but on thursday it is july first. I means a transfer windows around. Europe are flying open and the capture apparently after the scottish messy. I don't know. I was gonna scottish accent and then i backpedaled will have to join us to tell us about that and much more on the transfer window this weekend. Big weekend fourth of july weekend for us in the united states and canada just another normal weekend but lower dot com field opens on. Espn on saturday. You're going to be covering that match. Charlie it is the crew against the ravs historical modern Just a great match up to start that new stadium a third of twenty twenty one soccer dot com dwell on the gold cup roster complete transfer window covered sam jones has the endless. Mvp power rankings. Which we talked about on the last show and mls next cup is ongoing streaming soccer dot com. And that is where david goss is doing his thing. You sent me a text this weekend or this week charlie. Today's blend together. Yeah the man has jacked up. He's jacked up when showery joseph in his youth fifteen heavens he got into the quarterfinal heaven. He was in heaven given that interview. I've never seen him cheese in like that glowing. He was charlie. Tell us what it means such. Shall we do my favorite player of all time. Tell me how you fifteen did it. While the the union knocked them off. But it's been a great tournament. Go check out the coverage. Soccer dot com. Waste no more time to have so much to talk about here. Right into a charlie. This is this is what we like to do. This is only like to think about. This is what we're looking forward to this summer after that. Big nations league victory from the us. Mnt the gold cup. We knew that this was not going to be the same roster. That went out competed oakley one that nation's league tournament gregg berhalter has been saying it for a long time. We're gonna have to separate groups. There might be a little bit of overlap and likely that overlap is gonna come from mls players because it is the summer and you've got transfer window open you've got guys going into preseason camps trying to earn their way like for instance. He said brian reynolds not here because joe's marino doesn't generally play younger players so they want brian reynolds to beat at roma from the jump with the new manager to make sure he has a chance to get into the team otherwise he's going to be working From behind a couple other names in that scenario where cameron carter vickers gotta figure his cup situation. Eric palmer brown to figure out his cup situation. And greg said admitted our centre-back cool is a little bit light. So here is the roster for those of you who haven't seen it goalkeepers matt turner the likely starter. Funny story there. We'll get to that shawn johnson. Brad gazon defenders george bellew reggie cannon shack more. That was a little bit of a surprise. Donovan pines another site. Surprise but again center back a little bit thin per berhalter miles robinson a starter says greg james sands sam vines and walker zimmerman the other presume starter at center back in the midfield coma. Kosta general kabuchiko stand up kansas city especially jet criminal. Don eric williamson. Who was my must have on this roster injection you'll end up top paul arriola gerald decay. Nicholas keeney matthew hoppy. Who's in for the first time. Jonathan lewis josse artists. Give me your initial reactions. You saw this. Twenty-three you're thinking about the summer you're thinking about the task at hand which is both to win a gold cup but also develop players to push into the first team to get to the world cup. What are you thinking right now on this thursday morning for me. I'm thinking there's not any anyone that i'm particularly surprised about. That's one too. I think this group is is has enough quality to win now if mexico brings. They're a team. That's going to be challenged in especially with mexico hungary to avenge that nation's league loss. But i think this is a solid group for the players that he can call into this camp. Now i know there's going to be a lot of people who are like caitlin clark. What about gained. Clark to rb leipzig. He just had an appendectomy man. They just cut his stomach open. Right and then kate kate cows and other one but i think there's a number of these players aaron harare's a player that i've liked They're going to get their chance in january camp right so it's not the worst for them to stay with their club and play so i think from that standpoint. I'm okay with jonathan. Lewis is probably the one that i'm like okay. He's had his olympic qualifying didn't go so well he's only has one start this year. Eight-game slight one start two hundred eighty one minutes one goal. Is that enough to warrant a call up. Probably not and there are probably a number a number of players who would have earned that call based on how they've played this season but like all coaches they have a soft spot for a certain player and they've seen potentially seen him in training. They've seen enough of him that they think maybe this'll get him going or pointed in the right direction or get him. You know i. I caught owner. I combed through the charts in. Mls because that's really what we're looking for this roster right wing left wing and berhalter sudden his press Availability that wang was thin too. I did not see at left. Wing a true winger or even like sort of a inbetween like could play center forward could play. I did not see anybody who was just like yes. There and i completely agree with you. Jonathan lewis on the field for his club has not done enough to merit this. Call up right me. This is a dice. Roll from burkhalter. This is we know you can impact the game off the bench. We've seen that in the league and the national team. Maybe you can sort of get into a rhythm as a starter. Maybe not but you are worth the chance in this tournament just to see a little bit more especially with so many other guys. Maybe nursing some injuries. Whether it be ferrera or clark or you know etcetera etcetera. I would like to see cake cal there personally. I think he's done more this year for his team in his upside is just through the roof But that's not the way it's going to be joined rod the other one for me at right back. We talk about harare. I would have raho right now. Above him but berhalter said he's not ready to commit to the us. He's just not ready. He looks at that depth. Chart probably says man. That's going to be difficult because you have. What canon who's the presume starter. Here yellen so gino desk could be moved over there. If you get left solution that can justify moving him to the right side. Like it's deep there brian reynolds. It's deep so arado. I understand i get it. I understand you saying hey. Let's pump the brakes a little bit if i plan a gold cup game. That's it for me. I'm a us national team player. And i have interest from mexico. Talks about cheetos his teammate. Let's so so is santos like at amano. Actually it's a pretty good over here with l. tree. You should think about it. So i get it Joyner who's a young guy. He's in the beginning of his career. Let him let him make his decision at his own pace and honors the chat. Here's reminding us that. Afra is also there and i think efforts going to mexico team zodda so Yeah those are. The sort of those are sort of the of the snubs some of the question marks. But you're right. there's not a ton of. There's not a ton to get upset about here. Although i'm sure. Us national team twitter will will go that direction on us. Who you most excited to see you. You see these twenty three guys and who who's the one that you're saying. I just wanna see them play with the national team. There's a couple eric williamson. That's one hundred percent. Walk me through this. Gimme your eric. Clemson logics i'm right there with you. So last year. I think he really came to the forefront for me as a player who is so dynamic as a holding midfielder a player kaz he. He wasn't attacker in college. Made the transition to becoming a more It's xbox i'd say but box to box but he elects to e can keep the game in front of him so he's okay as comfortable with playing the six but he's definitely the definition of eight but he's good in tight spaces good technique Not afraid to mix it up can be physical I've seen him cover for dago. Chara and vice versa. he can get into. The boxy can combine to create as a player. Who's going to give you gravitas in the in the middle of the park. I like that about him. And i feel like he. He hasn't scratched. The surface of the country. Was extremely high with our williamson. Another player only just jump in. I'm done right now. Let's let's dig in. Because he was the one that i said before this roster came out yesterday every freaking out on twitter. Who's gonna be. Who's going to be on it. What are the snubs going to be. I said i don't really care the one guy. I wanna see eric williamson. Because when i look at this this gold cup yeah we wanna win. I wanna win. We always want to win period. That's the deal. That's an assumed. Everybody knows that but we also all know that the ultimate goal is to get to the world cup and make an impact. And i'm looking guys on this roster and i'm trying to narrow the guys who i think can help team the first team get to the world cup and make an impact. I think eric williamson is one of those guys. I don't know that there's anybody else in this pool. That can do what eric williams can do on the turn driving into space like he has a good mix of physicality of being really technical but also being aggressive in moments that. I'm not sure other players in this pool can bring the same thing where it's okay. I got a guy my back. I turned him now. I'm driving into space. I'm drawing offenders. And now i'm able to. I'm able to dish. And i'm so technical that when i pass the ball and putting the right foot i'm putting christian pulisic i'm putting I'm putting probably west. Who would be playing alongside on putting gio raina. I'm putting whoever's playing up top in behind. I'm able to to make those passes. That unlocked defenses or unbalanced them other than yunus mussa who still very little experience. Still very young you know. I think gregg berhalter showed in the last camp that he was still sorta pumping the brakes on him to make sure that he was ready for the moment. I think those two are sort of in the same mould and that's exciting for me. I also get frustrated. Because eric winston it feels to me like and i complained about this with them a lesson etc all. The time are soccer culture. I feel like he had years just chopped off his career early developmental years. Where he wasn't gonna you just wasn't playing. But that's what makes you. You have those experiences. And i think that's what spurs you on because there are some players who get all the experience in the beginning and then you see them falter out because their expectations are super high. And they go while. I've been doing this and i started at eighteen and i am i. Why do i have to fight for this position. Should be handed to me. I like when players have to earn it and have to go through the trenches crawl out of it. Come out on top but you always can remember what it was like in those trenches. I like the big chips on older. You say yes okay. Yeah i'm are easier. Who are you excited for. Miles robinson. We talked about that back position. Sometimes we feel like it's. It's not strong enough. It's light maybe after john brooks you. You're you're kind of like woohoo. Is that guys at mark. Mckenzie time is there someone else who can push mark mckenzie. Aaron long i thought was a player that should have been in. Europe probably was destined for your obviously comes out at the achilles injury. No one else has i. He had the stamp right. It was sort of stamped with aaron. Was like if you're playing. You're going to be this guy next to john brooks you complementary. You both have a ton of experience. You have the attributes to to be a great partnership at that level. Now we're forgetting figured it out. What do you like about about reggie. What makes him a possibility there for you. Sorry now reggie lousy. Must i think he reads the game. Extremely well i think he. We've seen john brooks you need a partner. That can complement him with speed. Making up ground making up distance miles robinson can do that I think he's he's grown tremendously in his tackling. When to step up when to come out of position to engage in attacker winning those challenges and then the distribution part. I think it's always gonna for center bachelor always continuing to develop your technique and and Your first touch and awareness and distribution whether it's long long ballpoint one knowing one to play into the channel versus when to play defeat in playing two midfielders in those tight spaces where sometimes centreback so very hesitant to play to the feet of midfielder. Who's checking with maybe one or two players on their back. You have to have confidence but sometimes you also have to think okay. Christians check into the ball. Everyone knows he can play the christian post six feet in christian. What's the ball to feet. Which is great but in this instance. It's better for me and for the team to play this ball into the channel and like understanding one to do that versus when reading them moment. Yes i think. Other than that. I think miles robinson is is a player. I'm really looking forward to seeing in international competition. And they might be the best one. V one defender that we have and he's been sort of unlucky with the national team with injuries in atlanta fans like the grown when. Us national team comes up because he's gone and gotten injured but this is sort of his big chance he's had a stop start in this international career of his early one and he's still super early in his professional career. But you listen to like. I was listening to the broadcast of the jeff reynolds was saying you know. We did a one. V one drill in his rookie season and for like forty minutes. Nobody could beat miles robinson. This isn't that wasn't allowed united of right now. That wasn't like these attackers can't exploit open space in break open defenses landing that that was the atlanta united that was crushing people and miles. Robinson was doing that. I would love to see him a prolonged exposure in this tournament. I think we will next to walker zimmerman so that. Yeah that's exciting for me to and then two more. I'm really excited to see nicholas. Show keeney league to. You're not getting all the press in the world. It's very difficult league to play in. Because everyone's fighting its survival. Survival of the fittest. You go out there. There's a lot of talent as you could see you know melissa's now purging league to her bright young talent. Yeah so coming into this international competition getting consistent playing time seeing what he can do in in in concha. What does that look like. What what's his upside house. He fit in with the group. Right wing laying on the right wing. Yeah according to berhalter that right wing for him is d- rookie and areola and the left wing is hoppy. And lewis. would hoppy be your fourth. No geraldine gay. Darrell digger got us a want to see him to continue to develop is ability to combine in the final third his finishing wanna see him continue to finish but if you can just keep building off of each performance. Because i still don't think greg is certainly. He's my starting nine right. This'll be a great opportunity to develop that relationship between the two the team by him. Make that stamp of approval. All these european teams have their eye on him after another stellar performance. In this goal cup. He's gone right. So then you know i it just further cement his place as the starting number knife. This men's national maybe even during the gold cup. What happens if the big comes in at that time. That's why you have just artists on the roster. You would think. Tried and true. Steady and greg did say in his media here that darryl hasn't yet done in a competitive game and it's clear they've been bringing them on slowly didn't have him in the squad for the nation's we just had him with the guys sort of experience it and then he came out and did his thing in the friendly but a friend who's a friendly and i think that things change in this region in every region when they're silverware on the line as there is in this case. I want to see that to a couple of names from me. Matt turner rabs goalkeeper. This his opportunity. He's gotta be the number one. I don't see any other way. Greg said and it was pretty funny on On this press call he was like yeah you know. He was asked about turner and he was like. Yeah you know those guys that are more soccer dot com. They love him. That keeps the best shot stopper nameless history. And you know. I largely agree which was hilarious. I was like dude you are. You are tuned in because we have been pushing that for a long time now. So i look forward to seeing matt turner as the starter here. See what you can do with the national team whether he can in fact get in and push zach stephan And then the other one. I would throw out. There is general guebuza. What we give forget herath here. I'm not saying horvath is not in the in the conversation but like seven. Let's just skip over him. I'm just saying the number one is stephan. i think bath. Would you would say that would say that to or club right now. But he's the clear number two. Okay there's opportunity. I'm saying but yeah a whole host watch opportunity for matt. There's yeah okay. Good correction on me there. I appreciate that. And then gianluca boost. I think has earned it with his play. The big question mark for buso remains like what is he a club but also what is he a country. Because greg talked about he could play the six. Yeah he can play the six. But i don't. You're not gonna play him at the six against like canada not going to play at the six and a knockout round game when he hasn't had any experiences level alter said he's going to get time so then i start looking at those first two games which are against competition that the us was. Look at and say okay. I think we should win. These games we you know anybody in this group should be able to step in and do the job well enough and as a group. We should be able to do this job especially at home to win. These games could boost your get a chance there and if he does where does he play. Because you have a cost you have. You'll you have williamson. All those guys can play the six to me boost. Yo is not a six in this. I think he's a he's a. he's a ball playing eight. He's great on the switch he can turn and push into space pretty well. Even if he doesn't the physical capabilities may be of a williamson and he's incredible onset pieces and if he gets in wide areas. His delivery is a plus. Yes so how does gregg berhalter used general capuccio that is the big question with gianluca gumucio period. Peter vermes has answered it in a lot of different ways whether it be a false nine all the way back to the six. I'm curious to see how burall answers that question and what that may be means for. Bussiness future because it seems like. He's moving to summer. We'll talk to tom bogut about that in just a second here. What about matthew hoppy. What do you think about that. 'cause they're saying wing and i get it. It's almost like that second forward. You can stretch the field for decay. He can come in and play off him and we haven't seen him yet. this would be his debut. I'm excited to see what he can do. I mean he's producing the bundesliga for the worst team in the boondocks project but he is scoring goals right east. He has score goals. But with that being said. I wanna see what it looks like now with the best american players in in. Mls who've come together and how. How does that look like what does that. Look like against concacaf teams. How does his skillset translate to this. Us men's national team is he just making straight runs in behind in in scoring goals or is there a little bit more to his game because typically when he was with chalco was just in behind right and it's just like great runs in good finishing but what's what are the other elements of your game because an international competition. Every game is different. And in whether you're playing on the road or you're playing at home the way you know. Every player talks about international competition. How how much difficult. How much more difficult than than club football. And so i'm i'm definitely interested in seeing what he brings to the table introduction for him all right. Let's get to our our eleven. We'll compare intentionally. Did not reveal the group that i wanna see and of course. I think there's going to be some serious rotation especially in the group stage for berhalter but let's just say this is first choice. This is the eleven you wanna see and it's combination of developing players but also winning. The thing may not some yordan the to make a habit of that no matter what group is. They're starting goal. We bought there with matt turner. You'll you agree all right. Check your yoga. I in the back lot. You want me to take your. I'll go first all right. Take me across right to left for me. All right right to left right to left cannon yup check robinson check zimmerman check vines. Okay i got too. That's a conversation point it's vines in belo. That's really the competition there. I'll tell you why would go with vines. He has more experience at this level. Greg has given him opportunities in the past whether it be january camper otherwise he was one of the best players in olympic qualifying period. It's a position of need at left-back which of course is a feather in the hat of george bello as well i just think vines and mls anna national team has been a better more consistent more reliable player than george bell. He may not be as good as george bello and sort of the tight spaces or maybe you know like cutting inside the at times but he delivers an incredible ball with his. Left foot physically. Keeps up with everybody. You can get up and down the field And i think. I think he has an opportunity to push into the first team so i wanna see more of him immediately. I want to see him. Be the starter. I wanna see him. Lock it in. I want to introducing the greg's mind the question of could i move sir gino to right back or could this just be my leftback especially in qualifying. Because it's not going. You like look honduras jamaica El salvador that is not barcelona. That is not lolita. It's going to be much different and there's going to be a serious travel. Premium put on guys coming from europe. And when you have three games in seven days you have to have options. I think vines could be that option. Yeah i think you're right. I mean for for me. It's experience i think he's look cleaner at back more natural. I think there's you know as much as you want your left back to attack and be involved. They need to defend i. Defending is vital for that position. So you expect. The expectations for me would be defend first than attack later. I think you get that from sam vines. Any any can give you a lot more. I think george. George bellas a little bit better in the attack but defending i think he needs to improve their midfield. This is the biggest question mark from. Because i think the back line kinda writes itself. Goalkeeper writes itself. There's midfield group. All these guys can play all over the place. All of them have their strengths. Easy from really. So here's a group. Just in case folks forgot cana. Kosta compla- the six or the gentle caboose. You could play. You would say the six of the eight sebastian jet. He's a criminal janis. innate eric. clemson could play. The six of the eight jackson was a six. What is the mix for you. Here who plays the six well is. Carolina cost in place But it's just what we saw in the mexico match where there's two that primarily sit behind a more advanced mitchell or so the balance is is going to be always better when you have to that shade back four and are responsible for sitting dropping a little bit more deep in the midfield than being in advance positions. When you attack both cal mukasa. And i think next to him as aren't williamson. I think those two players key to have the flexibility to go like this right or even both come up and someone else drop in but both can attack both can start the attack and are comfortable on the ball. So i think you start with gonna cost in once and and they both can defend in tackle on their own in the in their own right so i love that and i think it's easy. People may argue jackson. You'll and we've seen great belt or go to jackson you'll multiple times but at the end of the day. He's had his chance in major league. Soccer's had his chance with the national team and he hasn't taken it so it's the next guy up. I think everyone wants to see what. What a player like. Eric willington can bring to the table counter casa. He's he's done. He's done it in the national league. Final against mexico. He he's earned it he should be pencilled in without a doubt and then in front of him in the more advanced attacking midfield role. It's gonna be sebastian legit. He's going to get the nod. I think just under him though is joan luca bucci. I think he's gonna get you know the next opportunity. If let's say picks up a knock or doesn't have the greatest performance. I think he's the next inserted in to see what he can bring to the attack. Do you think the greg will start with williamson in that group. Because i have the same exact group. I have a cost. I have williamson have jet. But i look at a christian role done early days. Gregg berhalter was one of the guys that quote unquote picked up the system. Quick right and has been really really good for the sounders this year but could also potentially play right wing. He didn't get mentioned that conversation. When greg was talking about it but could play right wing. Do you think that that group the one that we agree on here is actually the group that greg will put out because i think the big question mark is williamson and on the guy that i would if i had to make a prediction of who would push in for him. That would be the one i. I'm pretty confident with my slides. Okay that's where i would be surprised. I am pretty confident with my selection. I know that's the best midfield you can put together with this group at least for the first game and then rolled on. I think is flexibility. He's like a utility player. He can literally play in every position and he's committed. That's a great person to have come into the game. You wanna lock things down you ever in a in a lead or you need some grit. You bring enrolled on for sure when you're dominating possession that team just sitting back and you'll really have to worry about counterattacked. Then you can have a player like jackson. You'll come in because if there's no pressure on jackson you'll he can. He can hit any ball on the field. He has precision. You give him time and space. Asana worry when you ask him to defend in cover ground in midfield. That's when he struggles. So i think in this instance you give eric williamson and kosta chance to play next to each other and sebastian legit in front of him because of his experience. How well he's typically done with. Us massage team and your midfield set. This is the big question too because conditions are going to change for the us not in terms of where they are. they're gonna be in kansas city for the entire group stage but the opponent we still have a tb d. on our are group's age one opponent on july eleventh. They're still figuring that out there. They're qualifying games. Happening on the schedule. It's going to be last-second. Basically martinique up. Second on the fifteenth in its canada So i think the the line of we're talking about is more of a candidate lineup. Right so let's think in those terms as we go up top. We both agree decay forward. You just have to see it and you. We haven't got to yet. You gotta see it. How about the wings. I think it's really easy to In this scenario joe keeney. It's gonna come in start in the right. You wouldn't bring him in from his his team in france for him not to at least get the opportunity from the very beginning. Because you know everything that's gone on with his club. Typically you're going to be in preseason. I know he's he's destined for a bigger move to a league where you're gonna be playing in first top division and gives you a better opportunity to develop and move on so i think he's gonna start as clear and obvious on the right wing as we would send instant replay and on the left wing. I think i'm going matthew hoppy as well You're pulling him out. And you know this is an opportunity for him to showcase what he can do for gnarly the national team in their fans but for the clubs. I'm gonna go against canada for two games of the group. I agree with you. Gioacchini agree with hoppy. I'm gonna go with apollo against canada. 'cause think about that side that they're gonna be dealing with talking about affonso davies. Just rampaging up and down. You could argue. The genie could pin him back. But i don't think that's necessarily realistic. You need somebody who can help in his willing to help defensively to me. That's more parley. roy. And i've seen the browsers trust in the past but look this is just the start of our conversations. We're going to be doing pre games on all of these on twitter spaces. We have postgame game. Emma's soccer dot com youtube twitter facebook all the places you're used to seeing us on club and country presented by are driven by tire the entire gold cup pre post game. Reaction will have previews every match right over there on on on extra time on our podcast channel as well as you too will continue that all the way through world cup qualifying. It's a huge year for the us as plotting out the schedule. The other day charlie. It is grueling for the players. Yes for us as well for fans i mean. It's going to be a lot. It's going to be so exciting and it's going to be sort of the anecdote to last year and everything that happened. All the delays all the uncertainty in society in our lives in soccer. It's all coming back so it's super exciting. How about this. Though candidate their rosters out. I can always on it. He committed. he's all in jonathan. David is not on that roster which is super interesting but you have all the big names. They're hookah scavolini. kyle laron Alfonzo davies is in the group. Of course what do you think. What do you think about this team the. Us is gonna take on in the group stage but then also world cup qualifying and this is the big test. Yeah it's great for canada getting that group of players together more reps more chemistry building off of What they're able to do together in in friendly's because friendly's friendly's but while enroll cup qualifying min- to get to write grind their way win but now it's like let's continue to to make moves as a group and figuring out the dynamic Within that that eleven affonso davies. I we all know what you can do. All right richie. Richie loria tatum. Buchanan has come in added. Some spicer can eat national team cow. Aaron the baller. Jonathan david's They have some legit players but at the end of the day their back line is still suspect so i think for them. It's figuring out. How do we address that. How do we get better. So this is a great term for candidate in that in that respect whereas i o fit in with them. 'cause they're deep at centre forward men alaron scoring goals cavaliers. He's been there a long time. Has quality is a young super promising player. But if you're talking about a to ford set up. It's always going to be jonathan david in one of those other guys. How can he break in. What does this future look like with canada. Why do you think he made that decision. It's a good question. I think for canada. There's probably a number of players that were pushing him to join the canadian federation. I think canada themselves probably pushed him to to to make feel comfortable and feel at home with the decision and ultimately he was probably offered a chance to to really get an opportunity to play and and he took it with both ends. Nothing's guaranteed with. Us specialty even with all the uncertainty around the nine position. Nothing's ever guaranteed. And i think if if if the in federations gonna say. Hey we're going to give you an opportunity. Come in you're going to be surrounded by you know top player jonathan david collar lucas scavolini. But you're still going to get a chance. We want to bring you in. I think for for him for many youngsters in that position. You're like all right. I'm this this feels right. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with the country that's really going to give you the best chance to play. That also just seemed like he identified more canada. This is where he felt more comfortable way. Felt more like himself. Second easy with them either. I actually think they're number. Nine pool is deeper and better than ours right now. At least out about it i mean. Just start with colleen. It's like well we don't got that right. Now we'll give scavolini. We might have something in that. Proximity and jesse's artists may be even better but man jonathan david. It's hard to push that group. There's a ton of potential and there's potential to do something unprecedented. And i think that would appeal to me as a young player if i felt. Hey i'm canadian. Hey i'm going to have a better opportunity here. But also i have something that i can be part of a movement something that will be a legacy for me and every all these players around me. And that's what candidates working on right now so. Congratulations i can offer making that decision. Super enersen see how he does with canada. Let's go over to them less now in start breaking it all down because today as i said july first the window is opening and europe. The flood's gonna start coming and also there's going to be a flood outgoing. You would think tom bogert. What's up man. come on in. You know. I'm while tommy's twitter handle in business rock and a mustache. It's the same time we know in love how you doing man july first house the texts threads going. It's all flying in right. What's going on fowzia. Nice nights to thanks for having me on is to talk to you as always Yeah i mean this is more of a just a reminder in the calendar you know the same way that mls teams were negotiating and signing deals before the primary transfer window opened back in the winter. But you know the silly seasons the three hundred sixty five year Occurrence as as you guys went on now. So today's more of a marker in the sand is this just when deals can be official in that in the sense that players can be registered in play for their new clubs in official competitions. But you know work has been going on for months and months let alone for just these last couple of weeks. A speaking of austin f c went out and got their number nine number nine. We don't know if another is coming mussa. Gt is his name. He's a twenty one year old cynically forward from grenoble that's league to we've been joking about league to but man when the scouts come around those clubs are like let it rain. Let it rain the getting money. They're getting money in twenty twenty one for major league soccer at eight goals in his last season to fifteen career overall. Only two in sixty games. He's going to be a you twenty two player one of those quote unquote young money. Signings if you listen to allocation disorder. You know all about that. You can have up to three on. Rosters and austin has three rodney res- commodities the left back and then now Gt what does that mean for their dp spots. I've done a bunch of research into this. Did a bunch of digging. Tom because this has been the story with austin fc. They haven't opened ep slot. What will they do with it. We thought the number now would go into that spot. It is not going to or at least this one is not going to what is called the arena. Habit is disposal now. Well yeah thank you for being the one who's diving into the minutia into the fine print and throwing the rulebook at may because you know. I'm sure that was a lot of fun for you. To just look over ages and ages iressa rules actually with unfamiliar. You'll be surprised. Yes so as you say you know that those spots are fluid. You're allowed to have one if you have three senior. Dp's who are over. The max hands. Reginald you're allowed to have three if you have anything less than three dp's over the maximum threshold senior vp. Again this might sound confusing. This might be difficult to fall. I'll try to keep it quick so the bottom line is for awesome. They can sign another dp. Whether it's a young ep whether to senior deal claudio arena. Didn't go into those specifics but the word is that. I guess pocchettino can be bought down. Or he's under the max tam threshold which means they can have three you. Twenty two initiative signings three. Dp so I think that's big news for them. Because i'm sure g. looks really really interesting talent. He looks he's at a good age and a good profile. But you also don't have a healthy center forward right now so it'd be insanely unfair to expect this kid to come in from france. I don't know when his last Competitive match was but it must have been what the beating many. It'd be ridiculously unfair to expect him. Okay we've scored one goal in seven games. Get out their kid. Fix everything for us. And you know make us this. Great attacking team and claudio arena was kinda pointing to the fact that just him being a natural center. Forward will be enough whether whether he's you know great or takes a little bit to get on. It'll just be nice to have a natural center follower but again given that they have the flexibility to not just add another piece but but another significant. I think is really important for them. And that's something that you know. They really should be talking summer. Well i'm i'm curious as i think everyone else out here is curious to know what is darrel decay status with orlando city. He crossed it in english championship. E comes back bangs. A brace gets called into a gold cup. Is there a plan to move him on before he before that tournament. I i'd be like i'd be surprised if let's say he left the door on. I don't think that's something that would happen Honestly i and many others kind of assumed that he wasn't going to play again for orlando. I thought that deal might have been wrapped up giving all the interests and given that orlando's been pretty straightforward Based on the reporting from julia mostly of the orlando sentinel Hey this is our price twenty million if if you pay it great can leave if not. We want him back. It's not like they're trying to offload them so. I was kinda surprised that any of this has happened that that he's still orlando players. So you know. We'll see how that evolves during this tournament. I don't think that you know. Look if he goes out there and scores goals. I don't think that he's more valuable player today than he was yesterday. And i think that these teams in europe particularly england. The ones that saw how we handle the championship. And you know wofford has been one of the teams that have been heavily reported to be interested in. You know they were in the championship. They saw him hand So i don't think that this is going to be a huge explosion for his value. Goes great and. I don't think that it'll be an indictment of if let's say he doesn't score donegal's this twenty million seem like the right number. I'm just throwing this out to all of us. 'cause if like in my mind if i'm orlando city and somebody roles in fifteen eighteen i would find it hard in their position to at least at the end of this window to say on. Stop for us. Because there's so much risk involved. He could get injured. His form could go down. I mean knock knock on wood. I don't want any of that to happen for for our beloved but like that could happen like so at some point when you drafted this guy in the super draft. You essentially acquired him for free. He's on very little money. That's a that's a club changing fee both in terms of your reputation in the marker that you've set but also the income and your ability to improve the squad with that money. Yeah i'm with you there. And i when when the kind of though that number started to get floated out i thought twenty million like kind of like you said this is somebody that you acquired for for nothing. Somebody who you're not paying a ton and you've only had for years. I was like twenty million. That sounds crazy. But i mean we kind of take a step back. You know looking at his goalscoring record in the championship. But again half a season small sample size i get it. You know he's not going to be thirty million player or something like that but it kind of makes sense it when you kind of put it into two pounds like that's what let's say it's ten million pounds upfront and incentives for another five minutes. That's nothing for club like evident. That's nothing for global wofford with the tv money. That could that's hanging around in england like it makes a lot of sense the more and more you think about it that that would be the asking price and it's not like it's something insanely unrealistic. Now will they get it. I guess we'll see. But but i think that's at least decent ballpark to n. y. Why not and why sell yourself. Short went up with a number out there. I want to remember. I think the numbers there to make sure that you're not getting bids of nine or ten right so the closer you are to twenty the more likely they are selling. Let's say let's just say a club comes in for seventeen sixteen seventeen million like this is the most we can do. Then you say okay. Well guess what. The percentage that we get back on our on the sell on fee is maybe twenty five percent or forty percent. You can negotiate in other ways to make it you know. Make the value a little bit better so i think it's a great tactic done by orlando city to make sure that they're getting as much as they possibly can for for young town. Can i rewind us here because awesome see. Play tonight thursday night july first. We're not gonna previous game against the timbers on f s one fox support this. It's at nine thirty. Pm eastern just because like most of you. listen on friday. I think if i if i see their numbers correct so you'll probably have already seen this one. But i wanna rewind back throughout something crazy like just guide people back through this dp situation. Like for instance allen. Plato's a senior dp the amount that he costs and transfer fee in his salary means that he's that's period. He's going to be a max dp but if they can buy them pochettino they could go get another full on dp and it could go get another tamp player. How about albert police. As that. Other tam player. If it's possible they need a right winger. They need goals they need. Somebody can play up. Top boavista has been a train wreck from all indications. Why not our the least. I hear that he's had a couple offers from mls teams. And why wouldn't he. We know job gambling. joel campbell. Throw joe campbell out there. okay. Throw joe campbell. That would be a tam level you would think and then you would still have space to go. Get a full dp if you wanted it. Let me just throw this question. You guys if austin's going to go out and use a full dp sought senior dp what they could also go out and do a young dp tam player. Whatever what positions would they be targeting. You would still say number nine right. I would add or or you'd say somebody who's like a hybrid who can play right wing or centre forward so that you don't kind of lesson your investment What about centreback. I'm just saying for tam level. Yeah like we could buy them down. They are dp and name but they are also. Tam almost like a zombie. Archetype i i mean yeah that that would make sense. I think that they have a much more pressing need with with attacking town. Those going in you know the recent track record of tam slash lower dp centre-back. Mls has not been very high on. We'll see how you know. Teenage tanabe On houston but on franco's taken a little bit in atlanta to kind of get settled. He hasn't really gotten into the team yet as expected. So i think that doesn't mls it. Track record is that you spend your money kind of and your roster resources in that front three again for team scored one goal in seven games. I think that that's what you gotta be putting all these midseason resources towards that's fair. That's fair zeros. At home are no good when you're the one putting up zeros but when forcing other team to have zero that's pretty good so maybe i can turn it around but they do need goal scoring. Yeah what else. What else are the needs out there. You gotta call him up anymore. Soccer dot com twenty-seven teams twenty-seven needs. What are the biggest needs. Mls right now. yeah. I'll hedge quickly in just saying that i tried to break it down into needs versus could use because there are a lot of teams that are pretty full or kind of again. Use all the resources in the winter and early spring There are a couple of comes to mind. I feel like i've said this sentence. I don't know thousand times over the last eleven months after vancouver sold in boom but the white cats. Adp number ten. They've cycled through targets after targets. A lot of the dogs. They've kind of looked at have been. They've been trying to hawk. The free agent market and the latest is a scottish Number ten is name is ryan gold. it was reported By afc espn. That they had put in an offer from sources can confirm that. I haven't heard any updates on that front. There has been a lot of rumors that there have been some sections that have said. It's all just about a done deal than there have been other places that have said. He's he's still waiting to decide but you know he was dubbed the scottish messy when he broke through in his teenage years that he got sold to a sporting. Cpi i believe or been seeking one at one of those sports giants. He didn't quite live up to that world class potential. He didn't quite turn into the scottish messy but flew flew under the radar stayed in portugal and this year in the top flight. He had nine goals and seven assists for a team that Barely avoid relegation. So he was the reason why i think i read something that he kia either scored or assisted like sixty percent of their goals or something this year. So you know. He would have kind of a similar burton vancouver if that comes through but again like they just desperately desperately needed number ten. Please just get it done. Just get it done. Just finish it off man if it's a scottish messy. Whatever i mean. That's one of the best nicknames of all time it reminds the haitian javi and you know how much how much i enjoy that one. Who else has needs big needs like dp needs. Yeah i mean nashville. I i don't know given that their attack has looked good this year. And they've been going goals i. I don't know how how much of it needed. But it's something that's going to happen They been scouted a legamex. You know the name that is looking most likely end. And looking very close as Logo that's a player that they while they tracked for years they he was Law even the you know two years before they were in mls. They had him on discovery list. He was somebody who you know they had to reach out to. You know the league offices a can we start doing our discovery list because we want to put these like exxon names on it and he was on loan in mexico as a young player from approving club and he kinda played his way out of like their asian or not even necessarily that the money because monterey ended up paying nine million four which is a lot you know. I was hearing at the time that they put in a really significant bid wasn't quite nine million but it wasn't far off And he didn't become in every game starter at monterey and there have been rumblings at you know there's a new coach they wanted to change things up and you know there's been a lot of reports about about him kind of being. Close the deal nashville and he somebody that has never fallen off their radar on whether it's him or somebody else they are going to bring in another big dp this summer and Just makes them all the more dangerous I guess moving on board the you know we've talked about a lot so i won't go too far in this. Whatever it is orlando need to answer at centre forward. Decay is the answer if he stays or if he sold It would not be wise to just rely on alexander. Pozo who you know he. He looked really great and breezy and he looked encouraging in his first game. I must debut but he got hurt in that first game and has not returned yet so they need to hedge their bets and just kind of bank on another player and whatever parts can give you can give you all transfer windows open. How about while we give a round of applause for tom. Bogey on twitter at tom. Boettger tommy scoops. Thank you tom. This is the fun time of year. I know it's stressful for you man but we appreciate all your time but keep it moving. Charlie let's hit the weekend and the big game in columbus lowered dot com field. The third time this year that we open up a soccer specific stadium. I said about austin. I said before that about cincinnati will never get old to me is a beautiful thing. I started in this game covered at an independent league baseball stadium and this is nowhere near that. This is world class. it's absolutely beautiful. Columbus new england five. Pm eastern espn espn. This design up in canada. You're prepping you doing what i'm doing all week. Probably which is going through all the to videos and all the you know photo galleries in reading about other people that have been there and see what all the new traditions are going to be as a player as a commentator now as a lover of soccer in this country in this region. What does this stadium mean to you. What does this mean. Do you think for fans while it's going to be the staple of of columbus of of the organization. This is a place that they will try to turn into their fortress for for darling the crew for us. Men's national team when they play and every time they play mexico. There's there's a new stadium to be played in everyone's buzzing about this because it just shows the growth of our country the growth of the sport in our country and i think for columbus. You're coming fresh off an mos cup. Now they haven't had good performances this year. Now's the time to turn it on. There's ever a time to get going again to put yourself in a position to make a run. It's now new stadium against the top team in the eastern conference the northern evolution. It's time to show up. So i think for the porter. He has that bad reputation of his teams. The following year after play offs. Just tankan. now it's time to start performing Starting to to show that form that they showed last year. I don't think there's any chances team tanks have too much talent. They're not going to tank and they've already been good at home. Really hits the road form. They gotta fix. But this is the opportunity right to like not just bring in the community but to bring everybody in and say this is our home now. We had this historic home. We had the crew stadium will forever live on an. It's not going anywhere by the way it's down the road. We have a training complex. There there will be events there. The community will use it. But look what you built. And that's really the message for me. Look what you built columbus. Look what you built. Saved the crew. Look what you built supporters. Who thought you might lose your team in the end. What you got out of. It was an ownership group. That's committed that has shown this year. Even if they make mistakes will listen to you who ponied up and made a world class facility your reality in your future and who have invested in your team. We're talking about big transfer fees out illegal mexican. Luca's out around was exactly. Daddy helped you win in less cup the way that they built this roster bringing in kevin malino etc. This is a team that can win. Mls cup again so make the run and do it in this beautiful venue that you'll call home for the foreseeable future. There are some interesting things. I just on the architecture side. It's the second largest support section in the league. I think behind l. Afc at right around about thirty four hundred thirty to fifty two. That was pretty obvious. So it's gotta be somebody else either way. Second the league that's awesome You got a couple of different venues to go. Of course all the you know all the clubs and stuff like that. But i think the supporters areas really cool. I think the beer card garden is awesome. They have on the outside sort of this square. This plaza where they can have watch parties. They have the soccer pub there. As well and avenue tradition charlie there borrowing a little bit from the timbers. Not going to lie about that and crew fans you gotta admit that is the case. I'm just gonna go read for you. Some of the The background on what's going to happen for this unique goal celebration essentially. They're going to be three people chosen for each game. They're going to To represent the club the community and the supporters. they're going to also basically be like a visual representation of three guys in hard hats. I'm assuming they're going to work the hardhats they're going to have the what is it the jackhammer and when they score just like timber joey fires up the chainsaw they're gonna just start jackhammer in man just just letting letting us think fly just breaking up rocks breaking up concrete just letting go and apparently the players and members of the team are the ones that approach the nordic about this. They said they want something. A unique goal celebration that disrupts the opponent and i gotta say As someone who's walked around new york city for ten years jackhammers will disrupt. Oh they're they're going to destroy right now. Joey disrupts you go ahead. I'll never forget on the field. I hear in your you catch yourself on the field. Where is that guy walking around and are they literally letting somebody walk around the chainsaw. They are well. That's the difference. Probably with timber joy is. I do walks around and grabs at random times during the games. I feel like whereas i don't think it feels less likely that that three folks in hardhats who represent the community. The supporters are just gonna be randomly jack. Hammering they've wrong about pens defenders just just air jackhammer. You don't have to jack ham radio. He just fired off in the i mean it's it is kind of funny the visual of it but i'm open to see how this thing plays out like. They were looking for something unique. They're looking for something that will represent their history. There were looking something to celebrate the supporters and and who they have been and still are this is it and at the end of the thing. I think what the player who scores now gets the broken up brick. That's a little bit more manageable than a slice on a log. I gotta tell you man like it. It keeps better. It's a little smaller. You know you can put in your bag on the way home But a big game here for the crew against new england. What's the key for new england. What is his game made for new england because they had a good week and then they lost what he thinks at stake here. I think this is an opportunity for them to continue to push themselves up the table. When you look at the revolution you think of of karla ceo and how credible he's been the back line you have injure furrow who's i think always gonna be starting as a centre back within that team. I think brennan by has come a long way. Dhillon jones on the left side is not a typical left back. But he's done the best job for the revolution at back so he he continues to to play there each week. But it's john bell who's coming in for hendrick hustler. Which is why. Henry cut kesslers. Not on the go. Cup rosser. Because john has come in and played incredibly. Well until this this last michigan's fc dallas. Yep he had his. Is you know for for anybody coming into the professional game. You start getting a run of matches your always bound to have that one poor performance that allows you to reevaluate where you were an and you got to kind of build yourself back up. It's usually mental. It's that mental challenge to the an obstacle to overcome so no doubt he's proven to me that he has the quality to be a strong centreback in this league. So henry custer john bell that combination figuring out. Who's the best player who's gonna play. Every every minute the left mid position Left wing are nor and they brought in from iceland hasn't really panned out so far. He's he struggled. They've given till bunbury minutes there. And we've seen what he's done this in this league. But he primarily stronger on the right wing as opposed to left wing. Dejean buchanan's on the right. He's he's a stud in. Oh this is a young upcoming rising star then gustavo. Bo has been up top because they haven't felt comfortable enough playing with hit with him on the left. Because when you're on the left you have to come back and defend. And that's not that's not been his game he's would. They've gotten the most out of him when he's closer to goal the problem now for the revolutionaries you have adam buchse who is a dp who is not playing. You can't have a dp in this league when you only have three of them on the bench that it just doesn't work like that. So what's the options. If you're the revolution one you sell them. You can't you. He goes back to europe. And you try and re- reallocate that money into another position whether it's a defensive midfielder play next to matt polster tommy mcnamara. Both of them have done pretty well this year. But you need to kind of reinvest it within the squad. So i think that is probably the biggest question mark over this new england revolution side. Do you think something can happen. The summer i do. I know you click we as this summer. Something domino could fall. I mean whether they'll be are bow or even with buchanan making a move. Yeah i know last summer. My yorker was really interested in book. It didn't happen for him to go to the second division. Now i'm still. He's a young up and coming polish striker. They're going to be cubs. Were interested in him if my orca came in from last year and he still producing coming off the bench for the most part there. There's going to be interested. There's always interested in the striker. So i think it's asia buchanan goal cup again. All eyes are on him because he has at electric pace and the confidence that you can't teach any can beat you on the dribble. He's continued to develop. He's a player. You could sell on. So i wouldn't be surprised five. Pm eastern on espn the opening of lord dot com field in columbus crew taken on the ribs big game. It's the biggest game of the weekend by far. If you're gonna watch one game this weekend just one because it is fourth of july weekend. You've got some other options. Make that be the one before we get on and go through some of the espn plus games and the players. Were watching. charlie how you celebrate the fourth. What kind of fourth of july guy are you cape cod so beach barbecues. I mean ryan the bikes ice cream. It's just outs- outdoors with the voice. That's new england. New england is all about fourth of july. So do you approach the fire. I don't you know look everybody do. What's legal and your state jurisdiction jurisdiction city. Whatever may be. Do not do anything illegal. But i got made fun of on the show. I came not from my black cats references. Do you know what a black cat is. I want to say yes well. You can't want to say either no or you don't know yes i do. Describe it Just a crazy like fireworks that you light on the ground kind of like a roman candle. No not really now the little mini ones. You know they got the packets you let him. And it's like the the the rapid fire little guys okay. So we're i don't know. I don't know if you're on the same page here i was gonna ask you. Roman candles are much more intense. Where i grew up in new hampshire. So trust me. They know all about the fireworks game. All right all right everybody be safe out. There have fun Do what's legal but have a great fourth of july in canada. Have a great sunday Let's talk about our espn plus game of the weekend. Every the games live on espn. Plus if you don't have it and you listen to the show regularly. i don't know why you don't have it. It is the best deal and soccer streaming by far. You get a ton of leagues and obviously you get emma last straight to you. What's your and plus game of the week charlie. La galaxy at home to sporting kansas city the three versus the two seed in the western conference currently she thereto coming off a brace at home. Beating are on the road at san jose and then s. k. c. beating l. Afc at home and daniel. Shallowly kinda come in coming into his own right now. Exactly exactly as we predicted on the mvp race shall weavers teacher ito candidates both of them head to. Yeah so i think just that. That's a match of that has fireworks. I i looked at l. afc schedule. Because i had this sinking feeling that they basically have beaten up on teams. That are not so good. Men have lost teams. That are legit like sounders. Lost a portland. I mean this is a is a sporting kc side that's legit so to me. This is a litmus test for both of them. I personally i was gonna say i believe in kansas city more but does now out so i have some question marks there to me. This is an option for kansas city. One to prove that can do without pulido and added to that last year. Pretty good last year. The guy to do it again this. They're not the same without now. They're not the same. Without a in. For elliot c to prove that they can beat a legit Competition in the western conference because so far. I'm not sure they've done it. We mentioned san jose. Just if you're an elliot's out in san jose that was big news this week. They've gotta get signings right. It's been a while since they've done that. Sound a huge surprise to me that on elliot's time came in the sense. You never wanna see anybody get fired. I never. I don't celebrate that anytime we call on the show. Coach's losing their jobs or being under pressure or gm's or sporting directors like that's just not. That's not the right way to do it But at this point. I think san jose had look pretty hard at what they've been doing where they're going and what their results are say. Well we gotta make a change. And this was the change that they made now material omitted. Signings haven't been That's why that's why. I remember last time you said who's on the hot seat. I through san jose through a might on the hot seat but you could just the whole organization on the hot seat to be honest. So yeah matisse omega again still you have to prove something. You can't win five zero lose. Five zero win five zero lose fires that that's not. There's no plan. I don't see that with with san jose. I feel like it's you throw people out and you and you hope for the best. That's not how you coach your team inside your guys from back in the day and have a lot of them. Not live to expectations. Chris leach steps in seems to me like he'll probably be the guy who owns that side of things going forward. Of course you had a nice run their as head coach came in. We'll see what they can do. But they got a lot of work to do in san jose by being plus game of the weekend is definitely going to be orlando new york city. Excuse me new york rebels one. I wanna see how orlando deal with the pressure. That new york's going to put in this game the directness or the chaos that they introduced. I think darryl deka can thrive in that sort of environment. And i said over and over and over again watched Every chance you get before he's gone. 'cause there's going to come a time and i know that orlando said he keeps saying well we'd like to keep them. We'd like to keep them. We'd like to keep them. But come on. There's gonna come a time when he is gone. We're going to have to watch him on saturday and sunday mornings when you have your chances to watch at seven thirty. Pm eastern on saturday on Plus you take it to watch decay. By the way you take watch orlando city. Because they're one of the best teams in the league right now. Did you see the video of them celebrating. After they won against miami. That is the they were going crazy in the locker room plan music jumping up and down. Oscar pray has in the middle hugging ninety nineties. Right in the middle of it. He's grinding he's all about it like that's what you wanna see. Those are the teams. I wanna see the teams that were down in the dumps. And there's always gonna be that there's always going to be teams. They hit rough spots. But then regroup figure out the path forward commit to it and get rewarded for and right now. Orlando's getting rewarded for it. I think new york rebels are on on the cusp of getting rewarded for their as well. So that would be my cream. Plus game of the week. Some other good ones out their car out of seattle on sunday at nine pm eastern. That's a good one to the top teams in the western conference. I also throughout nashville philadelphia on saturday. I think that one is Is interesting for a lot of reasons and then we got fc. Cincinnati go to houston. That could be win number three in a row man. You don't say it could be. You know what's funny. I think it coincides with the assigning of a particular centreback named jeff cameron possibly. I don't know man. I don't know if this is. I don't think he's been a big part of that turnaround. I mean he has to have been yes no doubt find no doubt i would say there's more to lucho in brenner that they need to actually take this next step but they needed to calm some things. Down jefferson act line was was does fire yes. Who's your player to watch this weekend. We'll get out of your charlie. My player to watch this weekend should be no surprise. Is ricardo peppy playing against vancouver. Coming off a brace right vancouver. Were let's be honest. Not strong is being polite. And and that's where they are. They're not strong in francey dallas. They need to turn around. They've been they've had a really difficult struggling year. And now you're getting to play against the bottom team in. What's the western conference in vancouver at home ricardo pepi. I mean that. I finish against the new england revolution. I look at that. Oh i thought this. This kid is got something he's got. Something different is law you know. He's long strides but solid finish. Good run i. I like what i saw from him and i'm curious to see if he can continue that that's why he'd be my pick for this week. Tell me what you saw from peppy. Because the first one is nice he gets him behind. It's a beautiful mall from ferrara. In the first time is just on the money could not have been a better finish. I was in a lot of ways. More impressed with the second with sort of the peace of mind the pace. But i think more importantly the patients to set up like three defenders and matt turner when you see peppy the player and you think about as long term future now we. We talked about the last show. There are rumors that syria could be in for him. He seems like maybe the next in this line of thinking to go overseas and gregg berhalter did mention him in the press. Said it's just a little too early for ricardo. He's starting to show a little too early with wants him with dallas. He seems to have a starting spot. What does the scatter report from you. On ricardo pepi. I think he's strong. I think he's creative. And you saw that in the second goal the composure to dribble that fake shot get around the keeper and then bang it. Upper upper ninety kind of just clinical good runs. I think the intentions around the eighteen just getting forward combining making good runs. I think he he can combine. Well i think just as movement is fantastic for his age and you throw in like the finishing capabilities that shot the beat matt turner we saw matt. Turner against maxima morales from the six yard box. Get down quick. You know is not easy to be. He's one of the best operas and leak. Ricardo peppy made him like average. Because it was that good of a finished. So that's why. I'm really interested in in him and if he can continue to go use this as as as jump off that match against the revolution had that. Be your standard in keep pushing. I'm gonna go Jefferson soto for toronto. He's going to be back against. Dc this weekend. Outfield on saturday at five thirty pm eastern on espn plus There's not gonna be any allied to puello but they need every bit of inspiration that they can possibly get because they are going to lose players for the gold cup and important players. And chris armas is. I mean some of his Availability lately has been. It's been rough the quotes coming out the vibe on the team. Just the way it is. It's horrible. It's horrible for them around anybody who had any expectations of toronto. See this year. it's it's my thing is how do you go from perennial powerhouse league not even just circumference league to absolutely shambles. No guidance no leadership. That's what it comes down to accountability. So what do you do from from here on out and then you talk about losing players and not just players some of the most important players in your team about this other to. Dp's tell us back from khobar medica. He seems to be healthy Still dealing with that hamstring issue from last week. Where you're gonna lose alexa ray on a story oh etcetera etcetera etcetera. So we'll see what they can do. But go into dc. Used to seem like it might be an easy task. This dc team pushes you right now. So we'll see what they can do soccer and the app all the coverage of mls week. Eleven any thoughts on a gold cup roster us canada's mexico's any across the region. Let us know. David goss be back next week. To talk about the rest of kaka calf. I'm sure he'll have that all laid out for you enjoy. It will be back to break down the weekend. Oh that's a good note joy fourth. We're off on the fifth. Everybody is i think most people are. 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Futbol Americas: Is the USMNT in the Gold Cup a "B-Team"?

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Futbol Americas: Is the USMNT in the Gold Cup a "B-Team"?

"In the mornings. Big thing america's with you here on espn plus her gomez heavy salazar her. Can you believe that this humble show is already influencing young minds across this great nation as we just saw that from our good buddy t would on instagram t would. I don't know what he was from. All i know is. His daughter is beautiful. He look as an amazing family. And thanks for watching my man absolutely very very good parenting there. We got lots of calm in today's football. America's john sutcliffe gonna join us. He was with the mexican national team as they played last night in national. We got a juicy transfer link gareth bale to an mls team that already has three designated players plus some big news on multiple fronts out of the national women's soccer league all that you can catch on football america's podcast which of course we now know is available wherever folks download their podcasts. Under the espn fcc feet but before we get to all of that. Let's start with the big news at hand today. The us men's national team dropping twenty three man roster for the upcoming gold cup. This trimmed down from fifty nine players by gregg berhalter disease. Twenty-three some big names missing. Obviously right no pulisic no mckennie. No death no rain of the the big names in europe going to be with their clubs during the preseason nineteen of the twenty three on this list play an mls the four exceptions reggie cannon shack more matthew hoppy and nicholas joe akini now. I'm seeing some people online that are saying this is a b team may be worse. What are you calling gregg. Berhalter gold cup roster. It's about a c team. But let's not act surprised if you've been watching this program. If you're watching football america's one of the better part of over a month now. You knew this was going to happen. You knew it was going to be a possibility when i say. C team is because there are some b type players and i only mean that because they're not plying their trades in the barcelona's the chelsea's the dorms of the world. They're not starting for the national team. That aren't in this gold cup. And i'm talking about players like cameron carter vickers. Matt me is eric palmer. Brown johnny gotta so. Who's in brazil. Brian reynolds who's at roma etc etc. They're not here either. Those aren't sure day in and day. Out starters for the national team so that would be your be squat. This is more a c team. Nineteen of these players play in major league soccer. That's not a knock on them. That's just tells us where there today. It's still a very young squad as you can see and listen. This is still a team that say what you will has the makeup and the roster to go far in this tournament. Yeah it's real young. Look that nine players twenty three or under you see. There's a real lack of cats a real lack of experience in this team. The one thing. I think we have to point out here in terms of why the big boys aren't here. You look at the schedule this turn it wraps on august first the premier league the bundesliga though season start her on august thirteenth. So if you're a player and you're to be with this team you would be missing. Significant parts of eric important preseason. I don't think though this gives us less reasons to watch. I think there's a real sense of urgency for guys if we are going to call this a bt mercy team then spots eighteen to twenty three when it comes to those world cup qualifiers. You're looking at names like roll down the jet a cost a cannon guys who you know are probably going to get called up. But what's their role here they're going to have to dominate here. They're going to have to lay claim to one of those final spots on the roster. The other thing that i think is interesting when we start calling this team is it does throw a little shade. Probably deservedly so with the gold cup itself. I remember tournaments. Two thousand thirteen two thousand seventeen mexico's involved in the confederations cup. And when mexico would send a team it really took some of the star power really took some of the meaning out of this tournament. I don't know that the us men's national team is disrespecting the gold cup but by not sending the eighteen. They're certainly making it less important. That's a topic of conversation in the circles of mexican press today. Why is the united states. Men's national team sending this second rate team in there is. Why aren't they forced to sunday. First rate team in eighteen like the mexican nash teams of the past. You mentioned you mentioned what was copa america. All these different tournaments where they had to send their b squad to play and what was the fallout gold cup. Well that's not the case here. I will argue back then. You had something to play for. You had half a ticket to was the confed cup. You don't have that anymore. So essentially you put up with this tournament out of thin air and you say it's to increase relevancy in zone for these smaller countries to help these neighboring countries with his the cap nations league you have that tournament. The eighteen plays in that they actually went for the us. Men's national team and now greg has a choice. What do i do with this congestive calendar. Where do with these players who are still trying to win themselves. They position in europe athar club teams in my eyes. He made the correct sison. Yeah look the gold. Cup has a lot to compete with european championships. Go by medica. Now we throw in the nation's league and it makes it a tougher and tougher event to get excited about still though her lots to play for here. Let's talk about the players who may have the most to gain in this twenty three man group for gregg berhalter. Who you going with daryl. Biki is there anybody else. Listen he just turned. Twenty one years of age most fans are over. any chance at josie alternate coming back into the fold. I get it. But there hasn't been a nine to stake claim to that position since josie. Altidore daryl deka got everybody excited for his play in the english championship for what he did every goal. He scored well. That didn't work out. You came back to orlando and guess what he's back to scoring goals. Darryl diga has the most to gain at any player on this roster darrow. Diga can stay claim that number nine position gold cup. He's got a very good chance with josh sergeant. Not playing that well with other players being in the mix but not really stake in their claim of being the legit number nine for the us. Men's national team with the team. Yeah the way. The striker position is really her pretty much. Anybody who's called in as a number nine or even as a half number nine in this situation has a lot to game. You could probably add matthew hoppy to that list. Who's also looking for transfer so big showcase opportunity for him nicklaus. Gioacchini fits that as well for me. Another player that fits that category but doesn't have time on his side like everybody else else's jesse's artists for me jesse's aren't it has the most to gain from this gold cup and i'll tell you why he's twenty nine years old this team. This program is desperate. Desperate hurt for the position that he plays and the guy. That's making the decision on that. Position is his former club coach. If not now for jesse's artists when her yeah and you know you know fans are not going to cut them slack if gets minutes in world cup qualifiers and isn't scoring. It has to happen now. So he's got a beat out for me. Matthew hoppy joe. Akini daryl vk in this tournament. He's gotta keep that spot throughout this tournament and he's got to deliver otherwise for me. I think this is the last chance saloon for artists with the national team. You think i'm far off there. I don't think you're far off at all. Let's be honest. There are a few players. Have the stigma of whether it is major league. Soccer or being part of greg berhalter's group in the past. That fans can't get past that and he is one of them. Jesse started as one of them. This isn't a dp and major league soccer. He's earned the right for his call ups but fans won't forgive the sense that is major league soccer to them and it is gregg berhalter beena system player for gregg berhalter in the past so that is something that just started us to play against and yeah. I think you're right here. So it is one of the players. They got called in josie altidore. Who you've already mentioned one of thirty six players who were cut from this team ahead of the gold cup at his age when we think about all that he brings to the table and then we see the number ninety gregg berhalter at the end of the day does call in. Do you think this team is going to miss josie at this tournament. They miss josie out. And i know people hate hate thinking of josie alda door and the likes of michael bradley coming back and i'm not. I'm not arguing about that. I'm just telling you. They've not had a nine. Like josie outdoor ed this current crop of players for as much promises they have. They don't have that value. Listen i went back. And i checked my notes because i recall the two thousand nineteen gocha final against the us. Men's national artists mexican. Sorry with josie altidore. Look at this minute five. Josie ultra body defenders sitting christian pulisic brave one v one against should it. Put it away minute seven. Okay another josie outdoor plates. Tim ream clearing the ball. Josie bringing it down and it cutting up more in the buck should have put it away. This is minute seven okay. This is the goal he should have had. So that's two right. Now minute thirty josie out attracting players in his paw getting an across this. They're all attended josie. Now it's just a player that creates things. His size is physical skill. Set the way. He carries himself with the ball. How dangerous it could be. I went back and check my notes in this game. I take notes. I should've been four one. Us men's national team by the fifty. Second minute there was a jordan morris. Header cleared off the line by one dollars a chance that should have been put in josie. Ultra was a huge part of that when he comes up minutes. Sixty four the us. Men's national team energy levels. They tanked they no longer can retain the ball. He's so good with his back to go. He's so good at retaining interlinking and bringing players in a skill set. We've not seen from another. Us men's national team number nine with the goal. And say what you want. Well he missed. Go right there. He still behind only landon donovan and clint dempsey in the all time scoring charts the us men's nationally and he's thirty one years of age. I know what you guys are going to say. And i'm by. I'm with you but if these young players aren't stepping up they're gonna miss them you know. It was a great performance. The one you just highlighted in your second role as josie alter doors agent. The only problem was that was his last game with the us men's national team and it's almost two years ago. He hasn't played for toronto. See since late. May i think it was a twenty second of may. Was his last game so hurt. When i start thinking about josie. We thought that the gold cup might be an opportunity for him to use the international stage to boost his club stock. Clearly his resume is not going to get him another. Call up with the. Us men's national team. He's going to have to use club. Not just find a club but lockdown a starting spot at that club and then keep scoring at that club to even get back into the conversation. Yeah for this national team at thirty one years old with the money. He's on tse. That seems very very if not unlikely just difficult. I think we have to ask the question. Now we've danced around it on this show. But is this. Officially the end of josie altidore. Because this is an mls focused. Roster this is what you just said was a b. or c. josie outdoor at. This point isn't good enough for a beer. C team is okay for him. Do you think it's not good enough. That gregg berhalter couldn't realistically put him on the team without having an actual club. I think josie outdoors resume. If gregg berhalter wanted to bring him he could have. I think it's enough to bring him and gregg berhalter decision clearly clearly. That's not how we feel. So josie done with the national team. I don't think jones with the national team. And that's because of the reason we just stated these number nine sworn staking claim to this position now if there was a nine who is banging in goals left and right or two. He's done but there isn't right now. There hasn't been a nine state claim to that. So as long as josie authors thirty one years of age is still in this picture and they're scoring goals. You're gonna keep hearing from altered or one of those. As i mentioned thirty six players cut from this list of fifty nine the preliminary list another one. Her yon arauco young right back for the la galaxy nineteen years old. Let's listen in as gregg. Berhalter explains the decision in terms of julian. It's it's a case of him being a national and not fully ready to commit to the team and he know that the goal coupled lock him in permanently and he you know he wasn't ready to make that step. I don't want to speak for him. But i can imagine. When he looks at the depth of the right back position he sees a logjam there and he maybe fully see his pathway to being a starter in the next world cup. What i can tell you. Is we really value. Julie and everything is an outstanding player and we think he can make a run it of being start on this and a lot of it's going to be up to form in his development but he's a young player young talented player and we think that you know he does have a future with this team but for the gulf cup is not going to be taking taking part interesting comments there her from gregg. Berhalter what do you make of it. I think it makes sense. Greg touched upon the competition just really quickly to compete with. Sergio desk plays at barcelona. He's gonna compete with players. Like reggie cannon boavista. Brian reynolds rome of deandre yellen who plays in turkey. You know justin jay. Who's going to be potentially in europe soon. The pathway to first team minutes with the national team is much more difficult than if you're gonna compete with hokusai sanchez in mexico or checkout or he negus. Where probably is two biggest threats. I will tell you this. I made some phone calls the moment that they've heard that he pulled out that he's not ready that he's still contemplating because he's getting the full full court press from what is certain people in the gutsy system and i'm talking about copy editor john. There's john santos rain is already committed. I'm talking about dennis. The close who's probably the best thing that's ever happened to the federation mexican federation you know as far as scouting in the united states is him being with the galaxy. He's got that full court. Press going on the mexican federation is already started paperwork for a one time. Switch for that alco. They are fully expecting him to commit to the one time switch and to be in a mexican uniform. That is all about him. He's spoken to many times. It's up to hooghly on right now. That's all there waiting for is the green light but him pulling himself out of what is a gold cup with that he would essentially been on is a clear indicator that he's seriously taken consideration being part of the mexican national team. Yeah herk here that right now here gregg berhalter say he has a future with the us. Men's national team at this point if you're out alcohol or if you're from the us soccer side and you're saying we gave this guy a chance. We may have had a spot for him. Here in gold cup wasn't ready to commit. That's the end of alcohol with the us. Men's national team right. I it surely. Sounds like i mean greg was very very clear and listen if all things are equal your love and respect for country your ties and all that other thing everything that comes with being patriots all that is equal while the sporting site comes into play and it just seems like simple math. Simple numbers you are going to compete with players who are playing in europe and in some cases younger players as opposed to older players who play domestically that there are only two of that you could potentially think you can overtake so among the competitors there at that right back spot that you mentioned earlier in the segment. Brian reynolds now. He is not in the. Us gold cup squad and a grand gregg. Berhalter had a very interesting explanation as to why. No other guys like brian reynolds. He's going to you know. He has a new coach in in jose marino and we felt if he misses. All the preseason were marino. We know the track record of radio. Likings play older older players. This was set him back to be able to make an impact with us in the future. Herk right choice by gregg berhalter. Yeah absolutely no lies detected. Except it's josie marino but he's absolutely right. Yeah i mean you can't give this guy the opportunity to be at roma want him to have a good preseason. But i'm impressed by berhalter looking at the gold cup and obviously prioritizing it he says at least in the quotes that he wants to win but clearly here. He's putting brian reynolds career ahead of the good in the short term of the national. Yeah but let's be honest. He has the benefit of the doubt of just defeating mexico in the ca- caf- nations league. So he's got a little bit of credit. There's no need to win the gold cup. All right it's a b team. But we've asked you to put together a team of the b. team so your best eleven from the twenty three players that gregg berhalter has chosen for this tournament. Her what have you put together for us. I know you're gonna you're gonna three at the back in two up top all right. Walk us through all right. So this is a three-man back line. Three centrebacks you've got sands you got walkers zimmerman got miles. Robinson matt turner. Who's a great shots supper. I'm going to give him the right. I'm going with the youth. Because i know what this tournament is. And what it means and what you can win potentially get out of it and right now. This is experienced or looking for players. So let's play these players. So matt turner gets the nod at the back. You got a baby on the left about and then on the right you're going to have reggie cannon. These are two guys. Go up and down. Now i know gregg berhalter is not gonna play this way. I'm gonna play through. The back is probably gonna play a four three three with wingers and you already mentioned hoppy is going to be a winger and other players may be wingers and your starters are probably going to be justice artists and what is darrel deka. But i'm gonna go different. I'm gonna go williamson eric williams dickerson roll down and gianluca puccio in the middle. Those three that trident. I think there's a lot of good quality players in the midfield. But i like these three. I want to go and see these two ended up top. Daryl decaying give me matthew hopped up. I want to see a big man like it can do against kakai opposition and i want to see the opportunity and matthew copy take that opportunity. Increase that price. Tag send himself somewhere. Book your tickets. Through different clubs do not playing. And bundesliga. To williamson boosts your. I love those choices in the middle of the park. I think that could be super exciting. What are the expectations her for this team. Obviously we're about to talk about mexico. We know when you talk. Us in mexico at the gold cup the expectation is to be the final but does that change at all given the fact that this is not the a team for gregg berhalter. No no and it doesn't change that. I don't believe it's the beat. You believes the c team. This tournament is designed by concacaf so mexico and the us men's national team meet in the final. That said you're playing at home. You've got a very competitive team. I don't care if it's nineteen major league soccer players. You should be able to get yourself to semis and compete to be in the final. So my objective for this team is the final. Do i demand that they wouldn't know mexico's got a very good team. We'll talk about them in a second but this team should be striving for what is the final. Let's transition to mexico and talk about the expectations for martinez team which is also announced on wednesday. And this one. They did not leave the stars out at least not many of the stars. Shuki dick dr herrera. It's an odd that some of the european big names that are in as well as hell as maury which means Not charito he was on the preliminary roster herk. I'm guessing that the expectations the obligations for mexico much different than the expectations. You just placed on the us. Absolutely the expectations is and it would still be this way of christian. Pulisic western mckinney virginia destined company. If the full eighteen was here the expectation for mexico would be to win and to win at all costs because that is the mentality because that is the culture a whole country is paralysed on a mexican national team. Game day this is why we see some pain millions for the mexican national team to divide their national team in play in two different places about forty eight to seventy two hours time because they sell because that is the expectation of mexico regardless of its in mexico or in the united states. They have to win. Yeah let's not ignore what just happened in the nation's league right if mexico wins the nation's league i think this obligation all that talk is totally different the failure in the nation. So you can. Let's call it what it is and what it was labeled in mexico the failure to win the nation's league is hanging heavy right now over martina and even if it's a b team for the us even if it's not a full eighteen for mexico. I think the pressure very much there on dot com all right to get some real perspective from somebody who's been with the mexican national team throughout the last month was with them last night in national as they took on panama. We walk into the show. None other than john sutcliffe. All right john. Let's start with the topic we were just talking about. It's gone out. Is mexico obligated in your opinion to win the gold cup. No question and you're right that loss in denver mint extra pressure look out of dino hasn't won a this summer because last night gets was the olympic team from jimmy lozano. So there's no question that if top amount of tina wants to have it easy go into world cup qualifying they have to win the gold cup and they wanna play the united states but i remember covering that game in denver and i talked to martina and he knew that was the game of game. I got her own. That got on. The big game was against the us in denver colorado. Now that they didn't get the win at least there have to try and get a runner-up win on august. I into perspective the money that's involved in the final of the gold cup. Tickets went on sale and were sold out in ninety minutes. I found that last night the cheapest suite on a corner for the finalist twenty five thousand dollars and gomez just about two of them for forty days in the middle of the field air. Who's gonna box september eighteen. That stadium nello cannelloni candidate. Who's going to who's going to be just win. Baby i had to put that in for you vega. He's right though set when we look the two national team managers. And who's under pressure is dino in it you could say it's the final the concacaf nations league final loss. You could say it's hurdle halio phone. Is maureen eat though you could say his players selection you could say it's what they've not done as far as not getting the results that potentially should have gone the way that they've under. Well the certain argument is not being available. But certainly it's not the montesinos under the most pressure. John what about chitchat. We've talked a lot about you. Go here on the show. You've reported that If he did get a call up he wouldn't accept it now. We know that you didn't get the call up for this gold. Why wouldn't they accept the call if he did get it because when you hear him talk he seems like a guy who is not put the national team in his rear view mir like he still wants anything. There has to be a little legal and all of this. He doesn't want to be the last one in the pecking order. Look i'll be very honest. what i know. Dot com tino talked to him in september of twenty nine thousand nine hundred when there were some issues about discipline that happened in jersey in san antonio and he said caveat we respected you. You were going to be a dad. You didn't come for this goal cup. Then you come and created this mess that that one caveat it to do a public apology he was never gonna do it obviously for personal reasons so that they it's been a series of events. It's very sad. I've covered the national team for a long time. And the fact that. She charlie to the all timeline. Score you really. I really know. He's not wanted on the team from some of the players in tingle doesn't want it so it's really sad because you're talking about well. He considers himself a legend. But he's out they don't want him in the fact that we came in got hurt. That's why he came into the picture. But yes i was told earlier in the week here in la that if she was going to be called last minute for this summer's gold cup he would have said no obviously they probably make a phone call before they do anything publicly and then he denies it but when she he says that i don't need to call anybody i don't need to say anything. It has to do what i found out this week. That said we need a public apology. He never gave it in. That doesn't charge you know. Don't confuse activity with accomplishment. He'd better win this gold cup because he can do whatever he wants. The owner of the mexican team right now is that except when they're talking about money like what happened in nashville last. I hate thought that we need to fly. You gotta give some credibility to the olympic game. We got a contract with some for making lot of money and we don't want it to be mad. So hey bring your dr morano. Just sit on the bench. Don't worry jimmy's is going to work in. That was very embarrassing to be on the flu. Dot the martino to just sit there on the bench and watch somebody else. Be the manager of the team. Yeah i agree to a contract with some. It was in the contract. But let's let me just for a second. Try to try to gather my thoughts on. What's going on. Because i i can't imagine that that would would say behind closed doors. I need a public apology. And then not get it and just let this keep festering non and let all these rumors happen and make yourself look bad instead of just saying to the press. He needs to apologize to me to his teammates for what happened. He's never said that he's never been transparent. And then to caveat non his in his mind thinking to himself. There's a possibility that i will menace comes back. And he's healthy and he's full-throttle any scoring goals again come next premier league season. That's out of my control. There's a possibility. Dean goes to the olympics and he crushes it the same way that lebron wins gold and he scoring goals. There's a possibility that believe or pool is maury in this gulf cup crushed you and they're scoring goals and it's out of sight out of mind and i'm way down. The pecking order right now. Caveat scoring goals. He's never once said he wanted to retire. Or you just want to be with the national teams to me as you can imagine john. I have a hard time believing caveat. That would let it go this far. You know. he's very healthy. He's never had really ankle or or knee injuries. I think she took him play two three years at a high level. But the reality is he's not considered by by mattino. The moment commend got hurt. That's one funez. Motor came into the equation. I'll give you an example. This week there was a cheap cherry to answer but not a question to martino when he said hey years. He has an ankle problem but he'll be ready one hundred percent. We consider him for the gold cup. So that's the way he saying. Dream that you took questions like saying my nine czar when his monte alum pollino in he doesn't want to try to. Obviously you never know what could happen is coming back is going to be okay. If he's going to be injured he has to give himself that option thinking of the world cup but not this year. That's why. I say it's very sad that the all time leading scorer the mexican national team is not welcome in in his own country's national team and it's not just what happened in discipline in september. Twenty nine thousand nine hundred. It's been a process of things you know. He got mad at him. In image in premiums would play the player so there was a lot of things that went on. It's very sad to be honest john. You're in nashville. Last night as we mentioned for mexico against panama. Basically mexico's u twenty. Three's that team obviously still played in front of a huge group of mexican fans. We saw them ocho pre-game giving the announcement about the homophobic slur. That we've heard time and time again. Obviously this is something that the federation john in the last really month has started to take very very seriously with what they're saying outwardly. What they're doing. I wonder what you make what the federation is saying about their latest efforts and actually national last night. Did you hear any of the homophobic channel. No you know what. I'm very happy. How the mexican federation the president. John lewis has worked on it. Not just not last night. It was a couple of weeks ago. I was in atlanta. When mexico played on us there wasn't any chance. I think they're communicating the talk about respect. I would say the word is respect. Obviously saturday in la. It's a different animal. It's going to be full stadium. La fans are a little bit like mexico. City stick fans will see what happens. There's no question that mexico's worried because fi fi has send the message you know. Sooner or later something's going to happen and a better be sooner than later because might hurt more later than sooner. You know what is disappointing i. I'm glad that math and that players like memo or cho- have taken into their own hands and sent out these messages. But call it for what it is. It's a homophobic chant. It's discriminatory say it's about respect. Listen respect is when. I'm a younger kid calling sir and ma'am to my elders. Respect is taking off my shoes. When i walk into my mother's house. Respect is not wearing a hat. When i'm at the dinner table this is homophobia this is discriminatory actions. What it is and. I wish they would do that. But at least you might consider as their baby steps but at least they're taking steps at least they're trying. I know that on saturday at the stadium. There's going to be new messages. I can tell you that guillaume ocho art and there is one thousand chunky lozano recorded a great message for one of the sponsors. And you're going to be surprised what the words come out. So i think those baby steps are advancing in. I agree with you got to call it. How it is and you have to address it. And i think there finally address it because remember also something is very important. The mexican team needs a lot of money and mexico wants to be part of that world cup and twenty twenty six absolutely in those first couple home world cup qualifiers without fans as a result of all of this i johnson cliff. We gotta let you go. Thanks so much for the time you're going to be with mexico the rest of the summer. I'm sure we'll have you back soon. Here on football america's anytime guys. There he goes. John sutcliffe pre friend of the program. All right let's get the highlights from last night's game. John was of course Here in nashville mexico winning three nothing cruising easily over panama. The airline linus this henry martyn your goal scores. Herk obviously as we mentioned before this was like you. Twenty three plus a little bit with dr dena looking over Jaime lozano shoulder the big takeaway for me go line. Of course wearing that number ten we've seen bright performances from him both with club but really with the national team over the last month or so. He finally ready to from prospect to players. You ready for that number ten shirt for mexico. I mean who else has been ready for it in the past. You know in recent years little puppy. Sarah's warning i mean you have to go back to house to really think about a true number ten think about the number ten for mexico and is right now. Diego lane is who has had three very good gains with the mexican national team where he's been pry the brightest star but at the club level and. Let me read this day. Since elena says last scored and you can find that at atlanta's goal on twitter nine hundred eighty three. You're a troll. No control no. I'm giving you stats and this is a very good player. He's a very good one. Be one flare. You can be vertical with for you and it. Can you very dangerous. But you're handing ten shirt already. It seems so easy today for a player to get that type of or that type of shirt in mexico because there aren't players by default because the pipeline is stalled. Because what you're seeing right now out of a twenty seven year old who's not even being called up. Because he went to enter miami and it's been a train wreck because he can't get himself to europe etc etc etc. It's almost by default. He's had a very good last three games. But what were the last two years like. Let's not forget about that. So it's a big responsibility when you wear the ten for your country specially ten for mexico. Some very good players have worn that jersey. Yup i'm waiting. I'm waiting. I would love to say that. He's ready hurt. But i think the the valuable thing that you point out is the club record write. He hasn't really broken through route. Betty's we said it before on this show. The next season for him is going to be huge. Just turned twenty one. Yeah it's one thing when you're seventeen or eighteen at that point you're still a prospect at some point you go pass prospect and if you're not delivering you become bust. He's not there yet with mexico. He's not there yet with beth these before. He really truly grabs the ten shirt for mexico. I think we got to see it at least a little bit more with betty. So i'm not saying he's going to be a playmaker of the year in league with betty's but he's got to be a lockdown starter there before he can be mexico's number two pellegrini's confidence he didn't have the first two coaches. That's the truth. it was the second is sticky. And he didn't have at all he's finally got that confidence he's finding plane had a good string run a games i should say and then covert hit and it took them a while to get back and then he wasn't the same player when he got back the opportunity was already flying without him so he needs to now take the bull by the horns and be that player a productive player because when you play in that position i don't wanna hear. He's not a goal score. He's not a nine. That's not his position. Its goals and assist is productivity. It's when i have the ball. What can i create. So if i'm not putting on the back of the net somebody else on my team is. That's who diego linus needs to realize he can be if he wants to wear that number ten shirt because i think the number ten shirt for mexico and i think what will go. I think big players bid time players for the national team. I guess the one concern with him going to the olympics is again. If we're going to say that this is a huge year for him at betty's could probably use a full preseason right so being off at the olympics as big of a showcase as that is he's not really looking for a move right now i would love for him to be solidifying. That starting spot alright elsewhere in kaka calf news and actually elsewhere. Whoever can dual national news hockey nola who debuted for the us back in december. Forget against outside of other he actually scored in the game has switched his affiliation from the us to canada fee. For clearing the switch. He was born in the united states. But it's really live. Most of his life in canada. He put debut for them as early as the gold cup her. How big of a loss is this for the us. Men's national team talent pool. I had them in my top five. I had a yorkie nowhere at mytalk. Nine so yeah. It's a loss because the pipeline as far as the nines goes for the. Us men's nasty is very thin. We spoke about no nine taken that up that opportunity and making it his own. Now listen jonathan. David is probably his the biggest performer. In what is a strike position for for canada but cappellini zor lucas cappellini era and he fancies his skill. Set which is like into governor leans and evenings. He could wedges way in there and be an impact player for canada. More power to them when it comes to being a dual national love you could feel for two countries when all things are equal become sporting and he feels. His chances are better with canada. Canola is a very interesting prospect. The skill set that he has not too many have. You can't be that strong. You can't be that opportunistic with in front of goal that good with your back to go. But you're still being molded into a player. I speak to players in that toronto system. And they tell me about the roskill said that he has now he's still grooming himself. How much further. He has to go and that is scary. When you think about how much better you can be. I'm not convinced that big loss. I get the desperation at the number nine. He had a great twenty twenty other than that. It's kind of like spot goals here. And there i think he's got to is rosy so he's not he's he's not pulling up trees right now. In major league soccer the other thing worth noting though is we give group gregg berhalter a lot of credit for all the dual nationals. He wins How about herdman. John herdman the manager for canada. Who actually used to manage the women's national team. He said they've been working on for eighteen months. So this is a player that not only they idead. They put a lot of work into and now he could help them in the gold. Don't be surprised if he gets another one if he gets another toronto player to switch. Don't be surprised if there are more dual nationals going canada's way meanwhile when it comes to the european championships we are down to the last eight. Well i was looking to make them folks money who is to get the golden boot erique. My brand noman england's gotta go deeper him doing overall to win. Gotta go with belgium if it's my money if it's your money i need a flyer wrong croatia. They're being plus they were in the world cup final three years ago. This is a team totally capable of making a deep run in a tournament at plus four thousand. Yes sir i will definitely take five. Teens started qualifying. We made it to twenty four for the beginning of the tournament and now down to the last eight at euro twenty twenty you just heard our pretournament picks their some of us still have our pretournament to a live in well. Others may need a little bit of editing. so why don't we give her. And maybe me. If i wanted a second chance at our picks okay so favored win the golden boot. I'm not sure if you heard it there in the sound bite. I went with lukaku. Pretournament her duet with harry kane. Right only has one goal you sticking with that or moving I'm going to move it. I'm gonna go raheem sterling. My already got three goals. Listen he goes from nuts going one single tournament goal to all of a sudden three at the euro's and you said it yourself if harry caine was into be golden boop england would have to go far. I think england can't go far. The guy ukraine next available very favorable side of the bracket raheem sterling is in a great moment. I grocery is playing off the charts. Assist everywhere. I think raheem sterling can seriously bagging another couple of goals. And it's is all right. He's got three. You're definitely disrespecting denmark. Definitely disrespecting czech republic on that same side of the bracket. Okay unlike you. I'm offering the fans at home here. Some consistency i went with lukaku pretournament. And i'm sticking with them here. He six to one to end up as the golden buddha euro twenty twenty. He's already got three goals for me. Hurt this all comes down to the game against italy which is just a massive massive quarterfinal momentous scored sixty four goals in syria and and across all competitions for inter milan in the last two years. I think he's going to be okay against italy's defense. I put all my chips into the lukaku. Vote for now. So i'm taking nuku my as my top score you're going out on a limb lucado. Top top-scorer is one of the best in the world. He will wreck any defense out there. But my forgetting who is kevin broin and is it has are they not playing are they. Are they in doubt for probably the biggest game of their lives. Yeah okay to that end. Here's a look at the Updated favorites to win the european championships. My pre-tournament pick belgium. Who was your circa. I'm not seeing them over in france. That don't don't come at me like i had this crazy idea. That france is going to win it and it was come on won't stick with belgium herk and it's pretty easy. Just they've done the most so far. They beat denmark in denmark. They beat russia in russia. They knocked out the defending champions in the round of sixteen. And i'm not buying italy not yet anyway. Italy especially coming off that game against austrian man. They just didn't do it for me group as very favorable to them. Who are you going with See we we don't agree here. May tiny. I'm with the college my friend italy. You spoke about the defensive efforts at one must do to keep lukaku up the scores. Okay thirty straight games. That they've not lost their last game. That they lost was in two thousand eighteen against france. This guy is italian team. The last twenty games twenty matches they've only let in five goals said i'm going with italy to shut out. I shouldn't say shut out to beat luke taco and belgium. I just explained. No kevin o'brien. It's going to be huge also hazard in doubt those two in doubt. That's going to be big for this belgian team. Who's up there in age. This italy team is very young. They're very dynamic. I could see them causing belgium. Lots of problems in transition. i will stay with donna. Okay are you mentioned in hazard and kevin broin not out doubts right now potentially potentially out for the game against italy. We didn't pick this free tournament. But how about a paper. Not for golden boot. But for golden ball for best player of the european championships. Her going with man. I'm so tempted it's been he's been so good for italy. But listen raheem sterling the scoring goals to great story. At the whole. It's coming home. They can go far. If he's the golden boot. Which i said he will be now and they go far as far as you say a final. Even if they don't win it it's gotta be rock game sterling so i think this is a no brainer for me. I like it i like it. You're doubling down and it's true right. If england wins the tournament their top score is going to be most likely the gold involved terminate it. You would find that very difficult to believe. I like wahine sterling here. I think he's a pretty good value to at six to one. But i'm sticking with my doubling down tripling down all chips to the middle of the table on the belgian national team and ramalu lukaku looking my man josh so good doing it and i think he is going to on her player of the tournament. Tell me i'm wrong. Listen to show. Because he's one of the best players in the world right now all right so the quarterfinals then getting underway on friday action starts with spain against switzerland. That's your noon. Eastern time kickoff then. We got belgium against italy for a spot in the semifinals action underway. Friday another double header for you on saturday. All right speaking of the european championships gareth bale and wales exiting in the round of sixteen and now vale has been linked with all teams the los angeles galaxy hurt. He's gonna turn thirty two in july still under contract at real madrid but reportedly not in carlisle july plans. Yes the la galaxy have three designated players. Okay okay okay. But assuming that they can sort that out and bring in gareth. Bale good move or bad mood ready that the dp player situation wasn't an issue. Let's go into miami on this. Let's assume that the six hundred thousand pounds. A week wasn't an issue that he makes for the galaxy. Would this be a good move or a bad move for the galaxy. Is that your question. Yup great lou for the galaxy. This is a player with a lot left in the tank and he proved that last season sixteen goals across all competitions at a very high level which throughout his career has have massive massive sporting moments massive moments on the field for club and country. What he did at automative great moments. He gave that man based taking wells to what was a semi-final appearance in last euro tournament. To what he can still do today what he showed us. What josie modine. Yo as a head coach. He's got plenty left in the tank. That's a great move if you can make it happen for the la galaxy. Put if you're gareth bale. Is this the move you at thirty two years of age you going to major league soccer going to the galaxy is pretty much saying. I'm no longer going to play with wells because that transatlantic flight every call up is going to be a killer those fifteen plus hours thirteen plus hours. Whatever it may be to get to every single game whether it's exhibition or was an actual world cup qualifier are going to be insane for you. What you're saying is done with the nationally. What you're saying is i went from around the spurs and even though i proved to myself and the rest of the world that i still have something the tank. I want to go elsewhere. I no longer want to play at that level. I don't know if it's the best decision for gareth bill. I don't agree that it necessarily means he's done with the national team. We see players all the time who get preferential treatment. A guy like maybe kato to novice who just chooses pick and choose which saves. it's not the same. He said he'd never goes as a goal cup. And how long taylor goes to the must win world cup qualifiers and even then he's accepting that there might be a chance that he will there will be no chance. He loses his club situation. But it's not the same. I don't think kayla was being a goalkeeper is the same equivalent to gareth bell and his situation of going back and forth with set national team. Look i guarantee you wales. We'll make an exception for gareth. Bale if they need them either for a world cup qualifier european qualifier. Whatever it may be. I like the point that you bring up about hint still having a lot left in the tank because i think there were a lot of questions about that and you would probably rightfully question. What's his motivation. Going to be like in major league soccer because maybe we didn't see the most of it at real madrid especially under sedan where there seemed to be kind of a break in communication and really a poor relationship. He wouldn't have that with the la galaxy he would be beloved. It would be a great fit and even if you saw how we played with wales. He wasn't necessarily the guy waiting for the service he was creating. So i start to think about him playing with the galaxy and she ito that duo to me could be super dangerous. Do you think if they signed gareth. Bale the la galaxy then become your favorites or is that not enough. No no no goals storing goes hasn't been the problem for the galaxy in the last four years. They've scored plenty of goals. Their slapped on or demand is we're having help or no help. Goals being scored aren't an issue for the galaxy. It's keeping the ball out of their own net. That's been the issue of the last four years. They need other things to worry about. Not gareth bell and what you can do it. And i know nobody cares. Put if you sign a player gareth right now. What you're saying is we didn't plan right with our roster and governor and grand sear in india the type of player that we invested in that we has play making ability abilities out of the wing. Take a back seat because we're in a must win situation right now. We want gareth ball right now. So forget about this investment. We're going here and if you thought gareth bell was wells. Golf madrid twenty played around madrid. Just wait until you see what he's like with the ele- galaxy well look. I think we're assuming a lot there. We should be careful about his motivation clearly. A player with a lot of talent. And i would. I would love to see it. I'm not gonna lie to you so. La galaxy have always have always had this ability to make the signing that. No one else in mls can make and would be that. This would be that. I would also tread with caution when you see this because gareth bell and his agent are looking for a club anytime you're looking for leverage comes major league soccer all right so let's keep it on the west coast but will switch leagues and we'll go up the coast a little bit to the national women's soccer league portland thorns where olivia mull tree signs. A three year contract with the thorn. She's now youngest player. Ever to sign with an end of esl team at just fifteen. She had fought an antitrust lawsuit against the end of your cell over the age restrictions. That were keeping her out but the league is finally relented her. I guess good news here for all. I really don't see any losers in this even if the league didn't exactly get what they had originally set out for. I can't believe the league would be against this. This is great for you on a pr standpoint. From what is more attractive more eyeballs to said league from player development. It's a win win. I don't understand why it took so long. I was going to say if olivia was a man. But she's fifteen so if she were a boy we wouldn't be having this discussion. There would be no. She's not ready discussion for this. If you're good enough to play you're on the team. Yeah i think there was an issue with the league. Wanting to make sure that the age restriction was fargan four as part of the collective bargaining process. Which is actually ongoing right. Now but olivia's antitrust lawsuit obviously kind of pushed them forward. And i think this happened sooner as a result herk. I think it's great. I think it's just another sign of the growth of women's soccer that we have a player. Who club is willing to invest in at such a young age. She's been part of the portland thorns since she was thirteen. This is a player who was. Id very early on somebody who is not just a good player but who had professional potential as a teenager and we've not seen a ton of that in the women's game before certainly not here in the united states. I think it's super exciting. The obvious comparison here her. And i always hesitate to make comparisons between women's soccer and men's soccer but just from an american soccer standpoint has to be freddie ado right you look at the ages. She's fifteen. He was fourteen when he signed with major league. Soccer and dc. United obviously a player in a different world a different time in american soccer but to me the comparisons here are obvious. It's a no brainer. When you talk about comparison seeming she signed with nike and wasserman media group at age thirteen. So you can say. She beat freddie to that and what happened to freddie freddie that cautionary tale In our world of. What can go wrong. If you're not careful in the player development andy personal development of these kids. So it's going to be important for richard moskenes for spencer wadsworth and the people ads wasserman media group to guide her the right way because they were also responsible. Freddie ado and make sure that we're not talking about another cautionary tale but this time on the women's side let's give olivia and wasserman and the portland thorns and the end of the benefit of the dow. Here for what they're doing and what were you can potentially do with the player who quite frankly is playing. Because she's good enough. Yeah and you know. It's interesting when you mentioned freddie do. Is that even today. If you're on like a youth soccer field and you ask a parent. Hey name me. Three american male soccer players. There's a very good chance that they will name. Freddie do that gives you an idea of just how big the expectations the media coverage were around him. Mls games were drawn millions of viewers on tv. That that's not happening today. Freddie do was had to be the face of dis united he had to be the face of major league soccer and he had to pretty much be the face of the. Us men's national team as a teenager. That's not going to be the case here for military one. She's playing for the portland thorns. Already have stars and when you talk about the. Us women's national team we got. We got time there so many stars erkin that galaxy that you don't worry about her getting rushed. I don't think in the same way that we saw different times right. And that's what it is. We were so in a hurry to put freddie out there. He's going to be the american savior. What is us soccer. We're gonna put them in a commercial with ballet's representing minute sierra mist. He's going to be dating popstars for for disney or whatever the case may be. It's pretty ado here. do their. you're getting whiplash in the one who's being hurt. The most is freddy adu because at the end of the day he was a fourteen year. Old kid who was thrust upon limelight when he wasn't ready heart speaking of the us women's national team. We have some video from earlier tonight. Actually i know we'll get to that in a second i. Let's so you angel city. Fc's new logo actually kind of their new crest her. What do you think your home team. Listen i've already put my money down. I've already put my money down. I will be incidence season ticket holder. A lot of cool things in the crest. You've got the red tail hawk kind of thing going on that. You got the sunset sunset colors. You've got the twenty two feathers which represents a twenty players in the field. All that stuff. It's very cool. i like it. It's simple at sleek. I love the color scheme. And i can't wait to take my daughter to game. The crust explainer was done in english and in spanish so clearly. They know the market that they're trying to tap into their in los angeles. You mentioned the wings on the design their modeled after a female hawk and in the explanation. They say because they female hawk like many birds of prey is stronger than the male hawks so credited the ladies there the color. Well that you mentioned the soldiers were seeing a nod to the old school. The w team used to be l. a. l. a. also a bit of history as well. This is the video. I was going to mention to you before her. This is from tonight in east hartford. Us women about to play mexico and one of their sendoff games. These are workers from the stadium. Taking down equal pay equals equal. Play phanor the video from the american outlaws group here in hartford from their official twitter account look I'm sure we'll get more on the back story behind this hurt. But in terms of wins and losses in the public relations battle over equal pay. This would seem to be another l. For the us soccer federation taking a beating here if the us soccer federation. I it just one after the other. What are we doing. What are you doing. It's just. it's a circus for us soccer and you said it. In the court of public opinion they are losing. The banner was According to the ao hartford twitter account. Because they went on about this kind of explained it was not approved by the us soccer federation because according to american outlaws hartford it was submitted too late. They also go on to say that all the other banners that were approved were submitted at the same time so again more details on that as they become available of course tonight. The first two matches against mexico next monday. The second and final game of the so-called sendoff series is the us mexico game on espn streaming live on the espn app. That match to be played from east hartford and we will be all over in our post game coverage on america's next monday all right one more thing before we get out of here major league soccer with an all star game skills challenge. We saw this a couple years ago. Who do we have in there. We had rooney young ninety. We had carlos val and now we're gonna have doors well. Does this do anything for you and you for this. Or what are we kind of bread goalie wars. I wanna see no well it mind versus versus matt turner. I wanna see that going on. Bring that back. I wanna see those bay is. I don't know john rigas bring all that stuff back. I don't mind it one bit when we talked about what is mls and especially in circles down south in mexico when they talk about mls marketing. How well they do things. How much of a spectacle or. I should say yes it can be. Mls cup all that stuff. What make his doesn't do. So now you have a chance to participate. And i actually think some of these players. Somebody's fans are really going to like what they see and they're gonna start adopting some of these things fair enough. That's all star skills challenge then set for august twenty four. Let's running back picking a major league soccer. we're gonna give you the top five goals of the season. So far herk. We start with fanin game winner against the vancouver whitecaps for the los angeles galaxy. Okay production. let's see what you guys have a good goal. That's a good goal. You know what makes this a good goal. Watch the touch and then the sentence finish. It's a quick half step when he touches it same but finishes off left foot right into the top corner. It's a very good finish simple math here. Ninety plus the cincinnati defense walls four. Yeah but takes him for a ride. I mean orlando's got disneyworld. I don't know if that rides in disney. Look one spin them to spend again. Oh my goodness number. Seven for nashville because That hurts cincinnati. You can't even get the teams. I suspect i'm sorry. Noni all over the highlights this season. We saw his personal top five on the last episode of football. America's number. three jacob ghazni's philadelphia union. Can you hit a ball better. Why is this. What is the production doing. How was this number one. Nine number one. If there are two goals that are better than jacob blessedness in the ninety third minute a thirty five forty yard bomb on chirp got beneath the crossbar in. Pick it out of your net practices on. If they're better goals in this. I quit about braggers. Was your boy. What happened shots number. Two joel paolo seattle against minnesota united. Okay this is a good goal but it's not number two. It's a good piece of technique is not number two. I love what. But i see lehto gel. Follow for the seattle sounders. Who by the way rack minnesota. This just gave him the business good goal. But it's not better jacob blessedness. This might make you so happy right. Seattle goal that comes against minnesota. And your boy adrian. He just the perfect combination number one rubio rabin of our s. l. You've seen this before the bike. How is this okay. The producers that show squint glenn at hearts. There should be no reason number one. How is quinn sullivan was his bike. Not in the top by. What are what's going on. Everybody's scores goals against san jose. Rubio is really going to be number one quinn sullivan di digit journeyman. Big did you dirty. You're scoring bikes. Seventeen years of age and political mobile being in this came up but throw in so rubio rabin our number one goal of the season so far for one goal except hercules gomez doesn't agree with you can join the moreno fan club because he also has problems with our production picks their top goals here on football. I made against. We will be back on monday. July fifth v last game for the. Us women's national team in the united states before the olympics. It's on right before on. Espn after the come. Join us for a little post game action right here live on. Espn football america's. We'll see next time.

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"Exactly ally find out what's going on in the mls get lost laws. Maybe this podcast is influenced. Good as well everybody up here. Every single day goes into the amish into the laboratory trying to come up some great stuff to you guys From new york new york you are listening to extra time driven by continental. At and t. Five g. virtual studios andrew e with my partners in soccer. David us charlie davies. It's a beautiful thursday. I mean depending where you are. I guess some places. It could be miserable but here it is beautiful and we have so much to talk about guys how you feeling you recover from last night. Thirteen games try. Try as you may. You cannot consume all of them well. It's really convenient when then there's a four. Am usa women's medal match. Just throw it on top so you just didn't go to sleep. Yeah yeah phen- 'perfect. This is the last few shows. This is my live late night edition of etr. And then i'll go to sleep after mean. Technically you haven't been drinking but technically giving your lack of sleep you could. We could say perhaps your round like a special might be a little. Yeah cockaded in that sense charlie. I feel good feeling great. Your feeling great. No no issues here not as good not as good though as if there was a statue of you outside the stadium somewhere also true. I don't know. Maybe maybe boston college do you think you're at that level. Hammarby ambi revs union. Do you think in your future quinn house just throwing it out there there you go. That's inside knowledge for you or think about it like this last night. Looking for a head coach. Charles davies becomes the head. Coach wins to mls cups in two years. Arthur blank's got a giant eagle out front and he puts a little statue of. Charlie's eagle is dropping falcon. Sorry but dropping from his mouth. Birds dropped from a different part of the body. Because the bird carries the prey. Back talon captured charlie. In in their stanky lagging. Yeah this is a very professional. No that's what it is a stinky like statue outside as teke. That's what it is. They're charlie. I feel like if we had won that match then for sure but You know. I hope that statue when i'm when it's all said and done for having a profound impact in the community I thought he was gonna pull the dad move and be like outside my home where i raised my. I'm not that cringe-worthy charlie all right. This has been a very poor way of transitioning and we have a big show here. Jeremy abobo bogus reportedly got traded transfer deadline. Today for some is today we have mid we give 'em elastic and thirteen games. Daniel showers vp cases. Rising rising rising to look at it the weekend. We got the mail bag. It's a big show. We're talking statues because the la galaxy are going to build a legend statue. Legend capital capital d. You know the hashtag the landon donovan. Outside of there's gonna be you know. David beckham out there right. So we've done this in the past. But i wanna give you is the power of the chisel of the pocket book you get to decide in this imaginary reality that concocted where the next statue in. Mls goes and who it's of dave where you build a statue who gets their face in bronze or stone or whatever material you decide. Can i say a second. Landon donovan trophy. Take he is go. He is the reason. This league is still standing. He's the reason that we've had. What five stadiums gotta go somewhere last year to go out to do it somewhere else. So i've got two options to just throw them out there. Stop asking for permission to showery. Joseph in new england. Obviously i've said many times behind landon in that era. I think it was the second best player in the league. And then the other would be eddie. Pope assisi united marino. Dc it will be a high may probably get high. I'm just. I was centreback. So i grew up in eddie pope fan. I thought he was the felty. Was the world class. Us player at the time. That could go toe with anyone in the world when healthy which unfortunately was the other part of it Obviously cloudy john. O'brien we're in that list as well when healthy again yeah. Hi marino's probably a better one. But i would still say for building the first dynasty for being the core of it for being the backbone of it and i think. Mls the ability to jump off from those early dc teams of having the sold-out rfk stadiums from competing in already international competition. All those things. Dc stood alone early on for building this league. And so then you look at that club in. Unfortunately there are like five names. You could put in there as we did. So maybe i just build a whole back line and just go with that. And i like the pope. Mls cup winning header moment. You've got the ball coming off his head. You'll action shots. Maybe there's a little motion a still frame. Charlie was your statue gunman so since you've you've already listed. Dc and hyman rain. That was we be. Ask on dc by home squad. Let's go hi eddie. Pope say tony saunas in there as well as a statues are pretty permanent thing so you got to like really make sure. It's the right one all right. Well i'm going to go new franchise new club from what we've talked about because la i would i would argue robbie keane deserves one and having it be that role the role in like this Iconic iconic from robbie keane. I'm going to go with houston died. Emma and i'm going to throw darrow. I like it. I like dance. The pop lockin job. yeah. I liked that one. I know anna go oursel- and i'm going to go with remondo beckerman. You can choose literally a coin. Flip one of the one of the two. Here's the one that i think has the best chance of actually getting built. Maybe not because maybe peter vermes would say no. That's a little too artistically. I don't it's peter and maybe that has to wait until he's no longer the head coach or whatever it is. He's built them into like one of the standard bears the league as a manager and he wanted to moss cup as a player and was a captain of the players. Going to be the next one. I don't know we'll see four one. Zero six soccer dot com. Let's get into. I told you as a ton coming up on the show dot com. Sam jones has your wednesday takeaways. Doyle who is. I believe back charlie starting Enjoy away a second. He's been on the blinder tip a lot today with instant. Replay as well. That's soccer dot. Com to charlie boom has orlando city's latest yard rudy camacho yesterday. We're going to get there. Yes it is but yeah instant replay j. Exactly what is probably incomplete coverage of all the ridiculous transfer rumor mill stuff trades. Transfer is going on today and throughout the week as well. Let's get to it. Do you think it's fair just asking that atlanta's allowed to have seventeen. Dp's because that's what the basis right now is in transfer rumors is. Oh here. Are these eight guys that atlanta has been seventeen million dollars on and then when from the world tells a reporter. Oh by the way they already have three. Ep it's it's not that much money it's just one player. No no sorry rules. It is a lot of money when blog is gonna come out with the press release and be like. Oh we got that seventeen point eight million and we said hell. No what is that. Like nas son don't want to go to atlanta. We'll get to that. We'll get it. That'd be patient but first big news this week throughout the league. The twenty twenty one all star game presented by target the Mls squad is out. Twenty eight names on this one. Seventeen from the western conference eleven from the eastern conference. You can go peruse the entire listen. Soccer dot com or was at the average age of the squad is an encouraging twenty. Six point three nine. It's not an ancient squad by any means. Youngest player is cade cal seventeen. He's half the age of noni. Who is the oldest player at thirty four. We've got three teenagers in the squad. Five players eligible for the young player of the year award which is basically twenty two and under throughout this season. Ten di pisa. The squad's attentive twenty eight and six super draft picks and five homegrown five if you count julian araujo for if you don't arapahoe signed six months early with the galaxy. They waved his homegrown status to get him in early. So that's debatable one but by my research even if it's four homegrown that is the in league history Yeah fifteen clubs. Represented here twelve clubs or not. We'll get to that in the snubs and they're led by the seattle sounders. Who have six players in this five via the voting process l. Emc new england each have four players. The galaxy orlando city are sending to each and then there's a bunch of singles through the rest of the way dave should we. Should we list the names. We trust people that they're going to go. Look the names. We can't renouncing. Twenty eight nine okay. Would never everyone could go out there and look at it and my first reaction to this when i scrolled through it was. I knew the names that would be there. You nouvella was going to be there. You knew noni was going to be there. You knew a bunch of these seattle guys. We're going to be there. There was like four or five names. That i have played really well this year. That deserve to be there. That was worried about. And i thought pretty much all of them made the roster so i feel like this is a really strong team. It's going to be a lot of fun to watch. There's a ton of attacking talent. There's some stuff defenders this is a roster as you just laid it out that's indicative of the way this league is built right look at the best teams and it's a super jeff next to a homegrown in front of a dp behind a tamp layer next to an mls veteran. That's how you build a good mls team. That's how this is built as well and then. I think that there was a good balance in the voting that you got guys like demure cry lock who one hundred center deserves to be here and yet for the last two months. I've questioned if you would make it just because of who's watching the games. How are they going to go about their voting. And so i was coaches. Pick just one of the demure approaches. Big so bob. Bradley got that one however works out. I think outside of a few names that will go through. I think the guys who deserve to be there are there. The two commissioners picks from garber. John buchanan halo. All of that one. And then kate cowl was also his pick as well so What do you think is roster. What do you think of the team. That's going to take on league. Max you getting excited are you at the point of anticipation are you still sort of like sitting back and saying okay. We'll give me like a week or two out and then i'll get into it or you already know. I'm excited. I think when look at the roster they got it right. I think this is one of probably willing to say. This is the first time in history that this wasn't just loaded with superstars that people were. There's a good of superstars who have who are doing it and players. Who earned the all-star ballot and and i and i love that because this is a team now that can go out and and really show that this is a clear reflection of players who earned the all star nomination and are going to go out there and perform as a group to showcase the town of the league Love ricardo peppy being in the team. Yes that's fun for all of us. Just eighteen years old jose other teenager. There's three teenagers. Culpepper ohio and then sands and buchanan. Or i'll bring up that you twenty-three group let's get into your and i just say the other thing that i didn't know that i loved about the all star game is when each team tells their players that they made the all star team. I don't know if you saw all these videos across social media daniel shallowly. They pretend that they were doing video. Series about the academy and then point Yeah it was good but at this point though you gotta have your head on your shoulders. Shall we like. We're right in the zone of all star announcements thinking about that just doing. The media allegations the city. I mean daniel salary and that outy. He does a lot of video. I think he's probably pretty kissed this. The kid was cool to see him. Get announced in front of the group made a speech and all that type of stuff. So that part's pretty cool about this whole thing. I didn't know that was the thing that happens so now. I'm very excited for next year. When i find out who made the all star teams before we get to. Charlie's starting eleven which he's put a ton of thought into an is better than the one that i put my call. Just go to admit that right now. They had a lot of questions from people just sort of saying. Hey wait a minute now. This announced a wire there. Six seattle sounders in the squad. I might actually turn that around and say why therefore four from l. afc. When i think probably two or true deserve other coaches the coaches picks. There's no travel for them. So that makes sense. But i just want to help people understand a little bit better. The context around six seattle sounders especially when they're twelve teams. And we'll go through. All those teams enlist snubs for them. That don't have a representative in this game to pay attention to you. Have to remember. That voting ended at eleven fifty nine. Pm pacific time on july twenty first on july twenty first just three days before that was the first loss of the season for the sandos. You remember in this show repeatedly us praising them You know ad nauseam. Oh how great franchises why. Everybody's playing out of their minds without best eleven players etcetera etcetera etcetera. That was their first loss of season. Three days before voting in the majority of the vote which five of their six players got in through in criminal. Don was the coaches pick. And i would find it hard to argue against criminal. Dons inclusion came via the vote. Which by the way fans media and players so it's not just sounders fans out there stuff on the ballot. They were the story of the league. They were the soccer story of the league that july twenty first night. Five hours before voting ended. The revs took over the shield lead by blowing out inter miami. So you understand why then five guys got in the vote and you can't look around and say well. This isn't fair. this isn't right. It's just the way the vote went the players the media the fans had their say they said and i think that opinion really at that time reflected it that the sounders are overwhelmingly deserving and should have those players in the five the got in Via the vote by the way you have new resin played in a while that one you could say maybe it's questionable looks more questionable now especially since the saudis have lost a couple of games and tied now against dallas in the mid week. Alex roldan still think. That's a good shout. A christian he got in via bradley. That's a good one mar paulo. Both of them should be that row. Radials is the golden boot leader. He should be there as well. So now you understand why the sounders have six we will get to the snubs. Otherwise charlie gimme your eleven year. Bob bradley you don't have any limitations. As far as fitness. Form head coaches calling you up in sanyo if you could just give my guy like fifteen minutes max that would-be dope walk me through your eleven on playing a three five to matt. Turner and goal. I think nuff said. I don't really have to speak on matt. Turner then you have. James sands playing the left center position mas robinson and mar and i think that's a solid back three. Considering the form of james sans miles robinson in to that extent then outside wingbacks kyw wagner a playing on the left from philadelphia union. I think he has been Well deserving of this all-star nomination then julian araujo was really come on strong playing the right wing back position your to sitting midfielders out to west l. Afc coaches pick. But in this. I think in this system will thrive along side joao paulo from seattle sounders and then attacking in front of them in that ten position. Colosio who's by far the mvp leading candidate right now and then. Two strikers in in front of him rodriguez and carlos vela that is my starting eleven for this all star. Let's go one by line here. And we'll get to snub goalkeeper spot but if we can agree on turner dave. We're good there. Yeah if you'll find out that how do you like the three man backline because actually loved this. Because i think it's perfect for a game like this where it's really you assume of. It's got to be a little gap capi and you're mostly going to say you're attacking players like go. Try to do something special. This is an exit exhibition. It's fun it should be fun. You should go enjoy this. Don't sit there and worry constantly about like who's over your back shoulder how you have to make recovery run. How you have to be defensive before you are attacking a i. I would assume once you make sobbed. You'll have to swap out of it because we'll get to the midfield there. The only two non attacking midfielders in this entire team. But i like this group. I think charlie nailed it with the three centrebacks that he picked all of them have played in the back. Three most of the year as well Comfortable in it the only change maybe at wingback would be either alex don who's been phenomenal or tae-zhee because everyone wants to see those guys on the field and that's a spot to put him in because i don't know where you put him in otherwise in this midfield in the frontline but you later who has been phenomenal as well and deserves to start like at midfield looking good to me apollo to me the defensive midfielder year so far out west You know both those guys can create as well as destroy a little bit and get on the ball and possess carlos. He'll though charlie. There are some rumblings out of your neck of the woods that carlos has got an injury is going to be out for a couple of weeks and if he's out for a couple of weeks august fifth the games august twenty fifth could mean that he is not around which will be an absolute shame given the quality that he has the season that he has had did not see. A mid week was not in the team. Who would you replace. carlos he'll with from this all star roster if you had to push a new attacking midfielder lucasville orion is who i would play there Six goals to assist you know. He's played in sixteen games with fourteen starts three goals and two assists in his last six matches. That's that's the player who's going in there and then you you. There's arguments that you could say. Oh manual renault so but you know two goals and five assists in fourteen starts in eleven eighty nine eleven hundred eighty nine minutes this season. I think zella ron. He gets the nod. Would you not poll. Carlos vela deeper and start cheater. Reto who you have not mentioned a single time and we were like ten minutes into this segment. E- i wouldn't because he hasn't played he she thereto heels injured and you started going to start cheeto right now. Well it's okay charlie. In this scenario. Teacher rita comes back. We know he's almost back. He's on the brink of being back. That's greg vanney says rhythm in the next three weeks and then he's frigging chichi reto. And this is the all star game against league innomax and that's literally what we all wanna see also play cheat thereto in carlos vela the two together and also. That's what you want. Google take your stiffen noni who by the way when i did my initial ballot. I didn't have ninety which is a mere cope on my part. But we're also stiffened ninety and that goes to the depth of this twenty eight man roster like in. Mls now and you said it. Exactly right dave. This is the way are constructed. You're pulling from a lot of different pots. But the nice thing now. Is that all those pots. Have all star. Level quality unquestioned all-star level where it's not just like Was that a gift. The only guy in this roster that i look at and think While there might be a couple that maybe their performance don't exactly match up his us. Maria might be one of those. I think there are a lot of centrebacks. Won't get to those. And snubs could put over them and i understand. Why k towel is. Here he is one of the stories of the year. He is this bright shining. Light for san jose for us and and north american youth development. But on just straight up numbers. Maybe not so i would actually throw zeller renault so in there as well because i think they are obvious picks because of who they are like zealotry on was not gonna miss an all star game this year. If he played thirty minutes this season he probably would have been voted into the all star game because of what he did to close out last year as well as to start the year and he has saved columbus. But that doesn't mean he has been as good as some of the other players. Those positions and i think charlie made the point of why he deserves it over renault so hence you put reynoso in that category as well. Criminal obviously made it as as the pick. I think he got a little bit snubbed on this like he's been phenomenal. I think georgy mikhailovich as well probably deserves a shout at that number ten position. He's been huge for montreal putting the bulk of the minutes. But a lot of this in my head is thrown off as well. Because you've seen so many guys away for international that deserve to be this like the momentum behind some other guys maybe even like a busey. Oh kind of has been lost over the last five weeks all right. Let's get into our biggest snub. You mentioned some out there. I didn't hear any of the big ones for many of us and i'll start us off. Their only two goalkeepers on the roster two and a half got alex roldan who actually has better like expected goals prevent it as a goalkeeper then a lot of starting mls keepers. Which is kind of incredible. Give me played five minutes and kept out. What was expected to be half a goal but my snob is at the goalkeeper position. Is brad stevens. I know that they gave up to last night to houston But on underlying numbers. And the test is your brad. Steuer has been absolutely incredible. I think it should have been him. And matt turner understand why paradise save orlando city. Made it in there. He is a big name. He makes spectacular saves And he has a huge profile. And look you know. Maybe this has not been his best jerks. He's been sort of in and out with international duty and otherwise But i would have gone brad. Steuer there and actually saw nick raimondo. Tweeting as well ask. Your students got snubbed. Hey we're seeing your great play man. Believe me those of us that are watching. See this is my snub. Charlie who's your snub. How dr is my snub nashville. This season have surprised me last night. Especially they rotated the team completely. And we're still able to go to gillette stadium on the road and come away with a point and how mukhtar i think as has really i think. Take his game to the next level. I think he's he's understood how to have success major league soccer but the tendencies of his teammate. I think he's slowed the game down for himself so it doesn't feel like he's out out of sorts you know he has. Thirteen starts forego three assists in the last six matches and for me. That's probably one of the snaps and that's probably where the timing of the vote etcetera hurts him as well. But i just wasn't nashville fans to hit rewind or like that little back fifteen button a couple of times here charlie davies. What did he say they've nashville has surprised you this year. Hunting mukhtar is. He's come into his own Attacking wise. i don't know if you set it but maybe you should have that. Their attack is one of the best in major league soccer and in the eastern conference three tenths to a legitimate all-star or mvp candidacy. One is availability to play a ton of minutes to is having a team. That's fairly successful in three is playing well against the reps so that charlie leisure campaign bam. That's the three things smart. You didn't even start. That's why i'm i've. I've watched nashville closely this year. And i do give them a ton of credit. Because gary smith we all know it's always been defend approach where we're not going to concede we're gonna make super difficult for teams to play against us. But they've evolved and they had to because you can only have ten guys in your box defending wanted for so long. So i i think by jacobs gary smith. They've been able to continue to develop the seem to get kayla. I think he's still got to find his feet because he still doesn't look like he's he knows how to play yet. What this group and how to get success in this league but They are with rental. Al and mukhtar kind of pulling the strings in the attack and dax mccarty and in onondaga just in behind. It's a very strong Midfield for for national guys in the box in Twenty twenty ten draws this year. So that's one of the little things that they got to figure out how to do better but a draw. New england is a good result week. Who is your biggest snubbed. Debut through georgia. I think it's a decent shout though. I wouldn't put him in there. Who's the big one for you. My other one would be antonio carlos at center back. I think he's been the most important player for orlando so far this season i think he is naturally the centreback in mls. Although physically. i might put at easter up there. But he's injured and won't be available for this So i put antonio. Carlos i think orlando's mls cup contender. He has been solid. He's played a ton of minutes. I haven't right now defender of the year. And so i think he deserves a spot on this. That's where you see like they gets in without deserving it maybe that affects the way you look at it in terms of someone trying to push antonio carlos in to sort of give credit to that orlando backline walkers and by the way made this team from nashville on. He did not obviously but walker did. He has been heard from the gold cup. We know that so. Keep an eye on some of these injuries situations. You could see replacements coming in for these guys as well and some of these snubs could get there real quick Before we keep it moving and gets all transfer craziness in the jeremy bogus trade. Let's just for fun for issues in gigs. Let's go through all twelve teams. That didn't get an all star and just trying to figure out who would it be. Who's the guy sitting there like man. What the heck. I should be in. La i want that bonus or whose fans are hitting us up on twitter which they definitely are austin fc. We've got that covered brad stewart. He's the one chicago fire. Alvarado madryn is. Is that the one of the best build up players in major league soccer the key whether it's the assist or the passer to before the assist. He has been one of the most dangerous players the league. Obviously the rest of the midfield has been asked. Most of the season. Charlie waited fc cincinnati. Who you got. Jeff cameron jeff. Now no no. What would it be. Jeff cameron. I don't know if i'm with a man. I'm that extratime radio. They've won since he got there. I would choose lurco view. I don't i don't think they have. What they okay they have. They have two shutouts. It's the last two games home against dc. Okay fine that's decent and away against the rebels. it's okay but if no wins. I is that on the defenders right. We hang on. Charlie's points correcting which you asked him to pick a all star on fc cincinnati there so he could not choose someone from another team so not totally his fault. They did not win. But i think it's lucho coast colorado rapids. This is one of my biggest snubs. Had the whole team because you have the fourth best team. Maybe thirty points per game in the western conference. They don't have an all star who to be though. Because it's a team that you know team is the star sort of team. I throw it kelly. Costa just because there's a complete dearth of non i'm an attacking mid and i liked to play the final ball and get into the box players on this team. Is there anybody else. I mean austin trustee could be in the centreback conversation. I don't think he's think so. I don't understand. I don't understand that he's played like leftback half the time. How would he be in there. I think coal bassett. Since he's come into the starting lineup. Slow start to the season has been phenomenal. And the other one would be very played every every keith is like an example of the grandparents which is he's a solid rightback He wouldn't be out of place in this team. It's hard to make an argument that he is an all-star and that is basically the colorado rapids. cincinnati rosen. it's like no cincinnati knowing what observes garbage fire behind the mansion that the rapids of bill. Yeah saying not necessarily just say. Everyone's a an all-star like keller kosta he's one of the best midfielders period for the us menzel team. So yes he has a quality be an all star but when you looking at league play i mean is he a shoe in for all star. No i agree i agree. Rapidly rabbit's gotta be happy though with their place in the league right now and i do. They do need some more shots respect for that project. These united i think made a comment after not the last game. The previous game which was and was like. I can't believe no one's watching is known paying attention. So i'd love to know. He thinks the all sorry it was. I didn't see that. But that gambit on her non-sport worked better than calebs gambit. For better we'll talk with them head to head so wrestle maybe Yeah those are the those are the only two so the the issue for d. Besides the slow start to the year is they've had so many injuries and so much roster turnover game to game that it's hard to pinpoint one person ran a played. Well yesterday that's great. Roberta played well a week ago. That's great he didn't play yesterday. Jordi arenas starting other games russell. Canals is injured. Junior marino's been pretty consistent as well. So i think the only two that makes sense as gristle in the has horsman awesome. He's flexible positions. So yeah i would be ola. Kamara could be a shot. But he's never get over the rest regroup not his productivity. Actually been better than i thought it might be. It's starting to rise to the levels of old not quite there yet. But how about inter miami for you chuck robbie robinson because his is potential is he's shown something this inter miami team as your show something on the center miami team. That's more than nothing is hopeless hopeless. Did you see this rundown. Yeah that's on me now. i was me. i wasn't yeah it says russell robinson which is very fitting for this show. 'cause from new york russell robins new york. You did skip the houston. Dynamo wanted to inter miami. Who do you got. Houston michio farah. Who's one of the best teams in the league and completely overlooked. Tim parker as well for the way. He's played what he means to that team at the center back position. He's behind a bunch of other guys. But he's had an all-star were season there once again one of those teams. That's good numbers. It's about the system rather than one. Single guy montreal georgie. So i think we're good there near red bull's i'm gonna throw fabio. Kate clark is in my you. Twenty two guys. That could make it. Which would be cool. John tolkien would be in that group as well He's not an all star but he's had a nice Starches professional career at the team level. But i think fabio would be in there maybe not for the goal scoring yet but for the overall forward played. How great would he be on the scene where everyone else's he's like. I don't even wanna shoot like set you up to shoot so that'd be nice portland timbers you got charlie eric williamson easy to all right. How about toronto market delgada. He's played five positions. He's done it all at a high level. He's been him. And michael the only to have been around the roster the whole season and i think he's pushing into that time where i think he's going to be around all star teams the next three or four years interesting. I if it was just you know maybe old school all star you'd throw your style on this immediately and just for the swag for the short shorts for his ability to go one. That would be just so much fun and win here with vancouver. whitecaps krista. home has the numbers We put our heads together. We said gutierrez at backlines being a really good show good toy vessel which have also been really good this year some hey just a reminder august twenty fifth twenty twenty one and all star game presumed my target in less legal max debut and i will be there so we do a live show. I believe on the monday of that week. Have a bunch of all stars stop by so stay tuned for more details on that and follow the coverage unless soccer dot com and the most absolutely air saying is we got picture the all star game. We're all star of the three people in the shirley. I know being tougher you got. I got snuck exactly incredible. See charlie i think. I fact you the way you deserve to be. There should be an extratime. Radio statue of charlie davies outside the velodrome or whatever we call our It probably that time you said you need to the militia and left so probably get your finger in the air of like. Hey can i use the bathroom. So that'll be right conic moment Also leagues cup. You like mls X. matchups leagues cup starts in five days. I'm working on getting tickets for next tuesday Here in kansas city but check that out mischief all the coverage. That's gonna be really fun. I know he's working on getting them. That was part of a purchasing is an option an option for me speaking purchases. Let's talk transfer deadline day. Let's talk to crazy crazy world. That mls in going out. Going at this point. I i saw a rumor. The other day from doin' jones with interest from multiple bundesliga teams. And in my mind. I just said is this. Mls four point. Oh have we were now. Graduated like the transfer crazy era where everything is open and selling and buying and chopping and changing and multimillion. Dollar numbers are no longer a strange thing in this league. And they're not anymore if you're following if you listen to the show you absolutely know that. Let's start with the biggest news though interleague news. That is germany bogeyed. San jose reportedly Soccer insider over the washington. Post had i steve gough and then we had confirmation and more details from the athletics. Paul tenorio the number we have is one point. Six seven million in game. That'll be split. Over two years going from the quakes to the portland timbers pornog- retained reportedly fifteen percent sell on clause after the initial one point one six seven million of san. Jose sold him for. Let's say five you minus the fee number and then fifteen percent of that would go back to the timbers also expected to sign a new contract with the quakes and that's a big part of this is just the the cap flexibility now. The timber's signed a you twenty two winger. they don't. They can't keep oversee at the numbers of that. He wants a needs so they moved him. Charlie what's your first impressions of this deal and who won the trade. Is there a winner. While san jose needed to get something up top. They need more support for cosso kick. Al can be on the wing and and be a one of those players who can provide service for a target striker. Like jeremy bosie. I think it was never gonna work in portland. I think they they never valued germany. Bogus up top so it made sense for portland to to deal him. And i think they got a great great value for germany bobowski. So in the end. I think portland will win if they can use that to get someone who will make them stronger and better in the end. Because they're a better team. I think san jose they acquired a player in a position that the need. They're not going to go out and spend a ton of money to get a designated player as a striker. So i think when it's all done portland end up winning in this situation. I think it's a draw every wins. And that's the nice thing about this deal. I think a three way win. There's one loss who loses the portland timbers refusing to play jeremy bogus he consistently at a position. He's good at and therefore getting rid of a young player a young domestic player at a time when their rosters aging and they're pretty heavy with international players. Like the question of how the portland timbers move forward. The answer was jeremy. Bovis and eric williams it. That was your core that you could then continue to build whether signings in mind. Is that your court. I don't think it is in their minds which delta but then in a year and a half when diego valeri retires diego chara retires and nia skoda's back in your whatever it is and larry mob biala. Does you have to now turn over international players and hit on all of them to rebuild the rosser so i think the loss and we're going to see them is any what he in their mind. He does not fit in their system. So they're getting their valerian in mob all those. they're not strikers. So you still have to replace those. No i understand that when you replace them you now don't have a number nine who doesn't take international spot and all these things you build a roster successfully long-term minimalist but i shouldn't be saying that because the timbers of built one of the most competitive teams for the last eight years consistently so i agree with you that it's a win for all and when you look at it. San jose is transferred one player in from outside this league on a permanent deal in the last two transfer windows so this allocation money doesn't mean the same to them as it does to other clubs and that's one of the things that skews the numbers because i feel like the trade happens. Everyone goes one point one million. Is she worth one. Point one million look at george. How much younger he was. Look at walker. Zimmerman or darlington nagbe. E how much more established they were. But it doesn't come down to just the pure numbers it comes down to. What are the assets to the different teams and for san jose. That's money that they probably weren't gonna use so now they bring in a bogus. He signs a deal which means he's going to stay or they're going to get something for him when he leaves and it fits for both parties and by the way i personally think the one point six seven million is a relative bargain for jeremy above ac- he's going to a team and doyle had a nice start on this morning on twitter. The crosses the ball a lot. He's really good in the air. He's to a team. That will play him. As you said dave in the position that i think he thinks and rightfully so and we all think that he should be playing. He's not a winger. That is not where he will be his most productive. He will be as most productive as a number nine. And i don't wanna play the like wando card but that's a nice place to sort of youtube opportunity to play nine a ton and have somebody like that back behind you talking to you about that stuff and helping you integrate into the club. He gets more money if he signs this new deal and some security. That's a big win and by the way. This is a big. Win for chris leeches. Well you were sitting in the background behind jesse for nellie in san jose this is sort of. I'm putting my piece on the table move. Hey i want this job. I think that i am the right man for this job. And if you look around league shop with the rapids. And i always the international excuse me. The internal trade market is undervalued. They said we're going to get a shirt thing. And they have been getting the opposite of sure things under materiel mehta for a while now like their signings have not been. Let's just say universally productive. I'll be kind in that way. But now you have jeremy abobo see espinosa. Who's a better creator in a better cross within. He's a finisher. You have cade calendar side who economy maybe time especially in the break. Push into more of it. Almost like a to striker system with him but can beat players won't be one and get the ball into him in places where he can finish and on the flip side now. The timber's have the money that they need to build the project that they want which increasingly is is clearly around foreign signings. So i think for everybody. It's a win. I just can't wait to see. Jeremy bovi does with an actual run in the middle of a of formation. And the guy that they're trying to provide service to when he's gotten that he's scored a ton of goals in this league when he's played on the wing he hasn't scored as many right now. Last season's it's eleven and eight. I think jerem overseas fifteen goalscorer in this league in the right situation. I just hope that this is the right situation. And we've seen this story before for american attacking players like this is kind of going to be. The case was g aussies situation right. He played right back then. He gets to columbus a place maybe a market that fit him better to allow him to play in that spot and he has a success. Ricardo peppy starts underneath international. Dp outside of him wherever until he finally gets his center forward position and now we see him pouring in goal so we can hope that that's what will be story for germany bovi. Td let's run through the rest of these transfers. There are a ton of them will hit the rapid here co bassett. Rumors are bound What's he i think. He has some dutch rumors surrounding him. And i want to say maybe belgium or the bundesliga at this point. It's all top five leagues we're interested in. Mls young player but the flag we saw was them training for mark. Anthony k it was an asset that made sense but it was also. There is another move in there. The idea was not to put those four in midfield together permanently. Someone is probably going out the other way to make it make sense. I don't know if it will be this summer. That's one fly. I would have for people. I think it's much more likely to happen in the winter. I think it will happen for co bassett. But i would look to the winner and i think for the rest of the year you will get at midfield and say wow with the glut of games for the rapids not only the fourth thirteen points per game. But they have the guys to maybe even rise and certainly to maintain san vines said goodbye adios. It's official now. He is going to royal warp And this is a little bit of like the reggiana moving away. I think the number isn't gonna. Wow you it's a little more than two million. I think but it's the start for the rapids. They needed to show that proof of concept. We have a young player we developed. We sold him. He goes in performs moves on. And now the rest of these young players and by the way the Touted homegrown can do the same thing they're bringing in a new left back from brazil reportedly which by the way is very necessary because they do not have kept at that position. It's the one issue with the sale. Trustees plane okay out there. We've created a narrative. Everyone has that calendar. Costa can play full-back. That's false. I think we should stop saying that. It should even be part of that national team conversation. He was bad. They're left back to start the year in the gold cup. Didn't play right back against martinique and give up the penalty. That was like the only ten minutes. He played at fullback. So that's not his position that's not spot that he's gonna fill in so they've either played five in the back with gall von wingback or they played austin. Trust the out there so big that they're making a move for an actual leftback. Hey charlie do jones. What do you think of these rumors. I love it and the thing is that gets me as dewan. Jones is not a natural back. He's playing on a position and he's done it so well that teams think he's a left back. They're going to go out there and try and purchase because he's excelled and what he's he's a player that has won the desire the athletic ability but he's learned the position so well he's trained so hard that he can deliver while time crosses with his left peg which he could not do when he joined his. First touch is so much more Consistent it's it's one now that you can you can say okay. This player can take the ball in play in tight spaces as a left wing back and one get into the attack. So now we've seen across world. Football wingbacks are being used. A lot of teams are using a three five two system even a three four three. What whatever you need a player who can defend what also get in the attack can contribute dewan jones that player i think long term right back is probably his best spot if if not it's an attacking right winger but he's he's done. So well bruce rain. I give a ton of credit to him and his staff to continue see him develop in that spot and own it and now you can't take them out. You can't envision him not starting in that left leftback spot. For the new england revolution supporting kc moves. Could be coming here in. Looks like tom bogert. If you just go on twitter. Right now at tom bogert he's just reporting rapidly like every four minutes. There's something new Corden sources for tom. Sporting casey's closing in on signing italian midfielder jose. Mari he's currently a free agent. You'd played by. Ac milan. parma Been with tears in argentina recently. Twenty five years old. There's also rumors rank. Kansas city around left-back right. While combination there jetro williams he was at newcastle alone Last year i think he's a contract permanently. That's where his contract is. He has twenty caps than other ones. That would be a good signing for them. As they looked to elevate it makes sense because it looks like and the asked reggie he says it's done general kabuchiko As well so also. Tyler freeman loaned to the two bundesliga out of kansas city. Which is interesting. Played a lot for The second team in us championship but hasn't really featured much for that first team We're going to get an opportunity overseas. They says a conversation. A lot of people and youth development are having of so. Yeah the us l. connection works we obviously have mls to coming online but there are some players who are probably ready to play an mls. Maybe don't get the minutes. How do you challenge them. And there's this idea that sometimes you need to just culturally challenged people so the soccer will challenge him one hundred percent. But we talk about eric. Palmer brown eric williamson is a big one with. This went on loan to portugal. It went terribly but he talks about the learning experience of leaving the country living in another culture focusing on the game only and allowing him to develop and so. This is a big conversation. A lot of people having a of at. We've seen our cell do it in seattle following rank with the austrian second division of like. How do you get guys this cultural experience that you used to get a lot of times college that now. Some players aren't gonna get gotcha. So more rumors here was his work. Done for the union phillies says bogert. Matas davos from christians is going to be done today ahead of the transfer deadline as well. They're also working on the mirror montero stuff but that doesn't have to be finalized today because it just has to be the where he's going. The transfer window has to be opening and that would be in europe. that'd be the end of august for him. As well there's so many here dynamos signed a panamanian twenty two year old central midfielder. Who who was awesome for the panamanian national team. Yeah this is a legit signing karski. Oh can play in this. It's an epic name. Let me just give it to you. I'd better cocoa karski kia. I mean it is a got a ski. And i miss in two names. Because there's two names in here that he doesn't add the dynamo didn't add but are on his mickey. He's got a lot of names. And i thought he was a guy that mls had missed on where it was like when people ask who in the gold cup will come. I thought he was already over. There wouldn't come back So this is a really good move for houston sounders. Nicholas been xay is saying he's going to the sounders from colorado. That makes sense. He wasn't planning and also rumors out of brazil Gremio winger leo. Chew to seattle. I don't know about that one. We'll have to wait and see on. That would seem to be a you. Twenty two signing giving his market value Sebastian reportedly has interest from two clubs and two from the middle east. Maybe the bachelor jet wants a little bit of coin because his op at the end of twenty three his contract so he saying i'm pretty good. I'm heading into a world cups cycle. Where i'm probably going to be in this team. You know maybe he if he if they make the world cup. He plays well in the middle east. That's a good way to turn it over to that. That's interesting other side krishna. ranga is Is with l. Afc so deal is done. He's been in training for a couple of days. Bob bradley says he's going to be a big part for them Hopefully a really big part. Because they're struggling right now but the defense is more of the issue on their side and in with atlanta united before getting to mid week. Mls charlie how would you feel if you made an offer for a player. Let's say you just put seventeen point eight million dollars on the table. And then the club came back with a written rejection in the public sphere as a braga did for ricardo horta and now tiago. Mata apparently is going to be a winner. Move according to philippa cardinals. And now they're also linked with vera from gremio for like nine million dollars. What the heck is going on atlanta. They have three disney players on the roster currently so they couldn't make any additions now they could. They would just have to buy down. Which would be a logical thing to do considering his performance is to say the least but i mean i overall the club is in shambles. Even though you have joseph martinez and you can clearly see. He's frustrated and it's it's easily easy to see why because you go from winning in the pinnacle and being the top goalscorer who's competing every matching to compete for championships to now eu. Really don't have anything to compete for your competing for pride because they don't have a quality team that don't have a. I think a group that believes in each other ro rob valentine. I'll give a ton of credit to him because now they look like at least they have fun. They're joying playing games they. They look like they're more apt to create chances now with with rob argentina leading them. And it's a hard situation to come into. So i'll give him a ton of credit because they look better since he's taken over. Marcelino looks better as a central player as well. Charlie someone who's who's comfortable and ready to maybe accept this role as head and we'll have to see what the falcon drops the my man matt ryan across the hall. So you know we'll get you just name dropping. Hey mattie coaches in names also. I think sam rumor from sam that gonzalo pineda they reach out to seattle about interviewing gonzalo pineda which makes sense in every way we've talked about. They need some mls know-how in some part of the coaching staff group. Whether it's the head guy or assistance that they didn't have under gabrielle. hindsight and frank to bore. He's obviously had success in this league. Bilingual pretty big figure among latin american football. I think he would carry that level of wait a reports that i heard out of dc where that the interview process didn't go that well for him so be interesting to see if it goes better here. I'm curious to know. Do you believe that there in shambles as wealth right now night. Considering where they were and what they were how are we defining shambles. I'm trying to think around that word. Because this is the way my brain shambles is is. You're not you're not going in the right direction. You have no idea where you're going. I think it's a you have no idea part. It's not you're not like because you can be going in the wrong direction but you have a coherent plan and bing bang boom plan doesn't you'll like atlanta. Yeah so the only thing. I would say about shambles to me. That sounds. it's unfixable for a while. I don't think it's unfixable. Because mainly their statue. They're spending what they're willing to do. As well as the players have. Some quality like the rosser isn't completely void quality. It's just hasn't been put together in any way that makes sense and they probably shouldn't be on the same team. But i don't think w shambles. But i would say if. I was a coach coming in. If you told me that i have the influence that i want and lead the direction that i want. I wouldn't say that there's nothing for me to work with right. No that that doesn't mean you're in shambles. If you have nothing to work with the oven equality. I'm saying they have no plan. he's doing that. The coach that comes in is right now their loss as far as the sort of like You know window to window transfer strategy because barco should begin. There's also parts this where the pandemic hurt everybody and certainly has in that case as well but some of that succession planning team transitioning from mls cup into the next era which still won trophies in the on it. Just sorta seems like that all broke down. So i i'm with charlie here i don't know if it's shambles but it is definitely scattered showers. Feel like it feels pretty scattered right now as do these transfer rumors communist app and tom bogut on twitter. The places that you get it as well as all the guys at the athletic Jeff carlisle there's a ton of people doing great work in this space and we're just happy to doing it so we can talk about it on the show. Let's midweek mls. There were thirteen games. Put on twitter. Hit me with your questions. Your comments your takes whatever it might be as. We can sort of narrow this down. Let's start with Actually let's start with atlanta comeback drug montreal in montreal puto. But i want to ask you you throw it out there earlier dave or did you charlie. No i did really oh. Is this a red card for you on justin martinez. It's definitely record. I think for the hand on the neck from one his opinion charlie. Okay oh you want mine. Yeah joseph so. I don't think it's for the physical contact for starting altercation. He didn't start it. I didn't know. I promise you go watch it back. Victim yama goes over goalkeeper interns and elbows elbows elbows in exchange started. Then he gets in his face. he's bullying him. He's taking his. He's taken his You know his personal space away. Joseph just protecting himself man. I don't see had got. I don't see any contact with the clearly. We have to atlanta united supporters on the show and i didn't realize they were teens le. Those love blinders are stuck. He can't get them off the father or alluded. I love how you in. Parker jump into his defense. And yes he's the leads. The league's leading goal score. And he's like this all right. I know but like you know. That's the the thought behind i witness. I would do it for anybody. I would do this for reasons. It's a red card. you cannot retaliate. And and the the hand shove is is not like a oh push. It's a violent shove and the left hand is by the neck face area by letter of the law. You are sent off. So i get into. I think the crew great job winning right. we've been arguing about zoom sow. Yeah all right. Michael barr my wants to know how concerned should often be about the boneheaded mistakes that led to two goals now they did win their first copa match at home against the dynamo. That's a huge positive. For austin for josh wolff and fc dallas coming up at the weekend which we'll talk about just a second. Would you think of this performance. Dave from austin was huge for them just to get some goals to get a little bit of flow for patino to get involved. They dropped a midfielder behind him to make it to eight. But you put together for goon dez out wide. Who can come inside and connect with you. I think pochettino's good player. I don't think he's a player who wants pure isolation. He wants to connect with players around him. So you bring dominguez goons coming off those wings. You give him some help behind him and this is the most i mean. Obviously this is the best game we've seen in play. He starts to flowed in and find gaps behind the houston back and helps when in saran gets a red card twenty minutes in to play man up most of the time. But i wouldn't worry about these issues like we said it. Brad zuber has been an all-star this season. He made one bonehead issue mistake. I think they sort of turned off once they were ahead and you could sort of feel the energy in the building. When alex ring came out there was kind of a like won. We did it. We're finally scoring like you felt like it was over before it was and then they kind of had to pay for that. But i wouldn't long-term worry about that issue for austin one thing. I'm thinking about a lot right now with austin and maybe i'm just a i'm pedantic in this way. But their press release andrea see repeated over and over and over and over and over attacking midfielder. So i don't always assumed he's going to be the nine. The jet is not in there yet. So i actually into watchman. I don't think that's actually as big an issue. Because of what i was just saying which is actually think schettino needs someone closer to him to be good and it theresa's that guy who's a difference maker from that ten position they tina created the own-goal from a run from deep and then scored the second goal from a run from deep. They could create chances. And then you've got a twenty two hundred twenty two center forward. Who's carrying the load there where you don't need to be the guy we thought you did. Because now you've got two studs behind you in midfield incensio dominguez's back playing on the wing. So i felt the same way as you and then in watching this game and thinking about it. I actually don't think it's as big of an alarm bell. If he does play in that role with the way the team can be set up all. Hey curley seal injury. We gotta talk about that again. And we'll do so through the lens of Sporting kansas city. Two hundred win for peter vermes. Congratulations to him. San statue could be a good time But chad from skc. Hit us up after this blowout win in. La back to california stadium l. a. f. c. will put them under the microscope in a second set. Daniel shaw is the inlaws. Mvp through this point of the season. Get out me please. He's got fifteen non peak goals and assists this year. If car was he was out for a long term period of time who has the biggest opportunity in in could daniel. Shall we work his way in your good graces charlie because this finish. He's assisting he's finishing he's doing it all. He is the best player for top three team. In the league and when allen pluto gets back and he isn't he scored last night. He's going to be even better. I love the arguments i think. Just dismiss them as first line. I love your princess crappy arguments like no because you can't argue esque c. r. Right now in in the table right there. The top of the western conference. They've they've jumped. Seattle for the time being but i think the the only player right now who who i think could jump carlos salas if he goes on another grin scoring there. I don't think shallowly shallow. We'd have to do this for the rest of the season. Carlisle out for the rest of the season for him to jump currency. Oh that's the distance that cardio has created between him and a player like daniel. Shallowly things over ten goals five assists tingles five assists. When you lose. The seal has done with created chances. And this if car races out and sporting kansas city. Let's say in the season no supporter shield or second and daniel we goes. Let's say eighteen and ten. So he's going to double what he's done. You're saying you're saying charlie. Just said sure head if he continues what he's for judge. Yes yes. That's exactly what i just said if he does that which i don't think he's going to do but if he does that. Then yes you can handle the mvp trophy. But i don't think he's going to do to win. Supporters show probably. Yes what. I do think that could happen. Is that radius goes on scoring tear absolute scoring terror. Especially when you when when you look at factor in that seattle. Seems like they've gone into that. Midseason rut right now and then come playoff time. They get going again. And we all know. Nicola darrow is back into the fold. Just getting some minutes. When he's back on the pitch and you you have that connection reestablished. That's who i think could take the mvp roll don back roll down. Hasn't been there in a month and a half so i agree with charlie. I think we're ideas is the one with the most to gain right now. In terms of the ability to make up ground on carla's he'll if he's able to perform that way the other thing with shallow e is police does back russell's going rotate into those spots. He's probably not gonna play as many minutes going forward and if pollino plays well. It's hard to disable shallow. You own reason. You can't take him off the field it's going to be. Shall we have to at some point to keep him healthy. Yeah we are playing only in that may only just to maintain every once got a chance. But you know where i stand on. Shall we about this disagree. 20-seattle is a huge massive. No good thing for l. Afc in a kind of came out of nowhere was a non contact injury. I think i saw that The bob said and that is. That's devastating for them and you saw in this match against kansas city. A four one loss. I've been california. I believe that's the first time everybody anybody has ever put four on l. Afc at home the backline in this match looking for a centreback absolutely selections also a right back but far fun. Ki-moon juan brahim edwards. If you go in that fullback five but of course wing backs as well and they give up a ton of goal's probably predictably in this case it sounds like your peers. What is happening with l. Afc is the five back system. Finally coming to an end josh weber. Let's talk about point five outside backs across the back five won't work for l. Afc what we see in this game from them. What he's just marinas also injured. Yeah they're saying it's a hamstring. It's not a big deal. But when eddie cigar is out for the year it becomes a massive deal because now you have genuinely knows top level centrebacks. So i don't think playing four in the back would have helped like playing marco far fund as a pure centreback. I don't think would have made that better for this l. Afc team and this to me was the core of the group that okay. Velikin coming go. Rodriguez hasn't played as well. Obviously they're bringing around goes to the attacks should get better but the to me was to us agora in maria that you had that that would keep you in every game and that's now gone so i think the floor rally of c. Has dropped and we could be talking about a team that potentially might not make the playoffs. Yeah i mean you have. Carlos fell on your side so if he does get hot and goes on tyrannies. Inform your ego. Rosie and brian rodriguez and you have a front three and you win games like four. Three three two five four. You're going to have to because that back line is in shambles in shambles shambolic. Because there's not one player on that back line that you'd say oh lockdown defender. Not one so. I think in this instance you better hope to go out and get someone i tar. You don't have much time. But i feel that's the only way that you can. You can really have a shot at competing for trophies if you go out and get a defender right now. L. fc fifth in the western conference. So i'm points per game. They're six but they're hovering right around that sort of jumped zone and portland's looking up saying we can get their dallas and starting to get a little bit hotter. Let's talk eastern conference. Dc sitting there. Reading like charlie. You think centrebacks available bro. We've got like nine. We speaking of dc crew fans. Don't want us to talk about that morgan. Please don't talk about us. I'm repressed enough right now. T i web fame. Morgan hughes and dc fans want us to talk about d. c. Four two winners in columbus will topping the time her not in dc. some shine for being the playoff spots. The midpoint with this injury stricken roster was your point dave. Dc you soccer Dc's in the playoff spots has a great reform. So i fully expect no one to talk about them at all. Still and adam. Taylor says hey. Dc just pants. The defending champs are unbeaten for and Back in the playoff places by injury. Suspension cops olas making a goal contribution every hour. They keep improving and flora's canals. Areola are back or close to it. This is a team to watch. So this is our opportunity of dc. Some real shine. I also think we get on the show soon. If you guys want to that. I would be down to get him back. That was a great conversation. We had in preseason so shine up this. This is the team. I was hoping they'd be and it hasn't gone the way that i expected. Because of those injuries because of all the issues they've had and yet heard on one side has been able to bring in his revolution. How the game will be played and so over the hat i. After the season he's instilled his principles play into this group and now he's getting the talent that he thought he would. Line up into this side. And paul arriola is gonna fit perfectly back in to what he wants to do. I think you saw more confidence from florida's before he got injured he could be ready to go and canals dig. Is the best ball winner in the group when he gets back there. But it's a team. That's able to play vertical. They're able to play aggressive. They play with high energy. And i think the coaching move of the year across the entire league has been antena har- at that right centreback position in that back three. He has been phenomenal. He's been a game changer. Going forward. I think maybe one goal. They conceded i think was guests on him and his header. Because hard just wasn't big enough to challenge on that play outside of that. He was good to go he. He's been good to go in that spot. And so. I just look at this. And i've been really impressed. I think i had them fourth or fifth coming into the year in the eastern conference. And and when you did that and said that i thought that was i thought that was a yes and maybe like rose colored glasses a little bit and now it's seeming like especially after the initial start of the season. When everybody was injured they couldn't feel the squad. The you know the conversation was about whether you can eat chicken or salmon for dinner like the narrative is completely flipped for dc. This is why they did those things. So they go out and attack teams and be relentless and do it throughout the entire roster and be a cohesive. You know. It's like a pack. It's like a pack of wolves hunting people down. They don't get tired. I think they'll finish six or seventh at at the end of the season in in one of those two spots. But this is the mo for hernan lozada. This is what he did in belgium as well so i think we should get him on the show. I'm gonna talk to dc. We'll try to bring the lover also by the way. Just a random on. We're going to try to have cade count next week to so might be an interview heavy show next thursday. Tvd all that one and another one Deuce all you want say yeah. We're going to get deuce clint dempsey on extra time. Yup setting the date so That's a good. Tease me jacked up shortly before we go onto quickly eastern plus game the week because all of them are almost this weakens our hope. You have a subscription Just wanna shout out to dallas getting a draw in seattle. That's pretty good and they wanted kansas city so on the road for them zero points entering this week the got four in a week. So that's That's seven point l. As well over the course of the we have for a team that was looking up in the standings yup ask especially to far. I want to give him a shout-out immaculate vibes from the cozy and he has been a huge part of this surge for them And looks like he'll be there for a while now we had some question what's orlando city. Fans have any reason to panic. Fan base seems split. I don't know why you would panic. You got a ton of injuries right now in we trust and by the way the wolves are saying all the right things as they come in go read the coverage whether it be You know their place in the market like you know the transfer market whether it be how they want to invest in the club and already the rumors are like eight million dollar players which would be a record for orlando city in the transfer market or the way. They view their place in the community. I think that's going to end up being a really really good group to have animals. And i'm super happy about that. Real quick been plus game of the week. Then we'll get the mailbag and get on outta here. We'll start us off. Colorado kansas city. We've done a lot of talking about or have done a lot of talking. I should say went on a rant on the power rankings. Show on tuesday eleven. Am eastern on twitter spaces. You can also watch the top ten on youtube about this project. And the way they've approached it differently. Value the internal train market. They've valued ms experience. They've used their allocation money. In that way oppose on tam players this is a huge test for them to host. Kansas city and now full strength kansas city. So that's my spin. Plus game of the week colorado kansas city what about if culpa task keeps rolling on four awesome. They've waited for this for three years. And then you get the first two games in the first week. Houston the win and now they face off against fc dallas coming into the year we thought this would be the. These are the two interesting teams in houston kind of by the wayside and houston has made absolutely a knoll conversation. They pushed in there. But i'm really exciting to watch this match up. Can dallas continue to roll combat attacking four with all the young pieces. Hayes is for probably the toughest game. He's had of the last week in seattle but started to grow into it as the game went along. Paxton's playing with confidence. Ricardo pepys been awesome inzerillo slotted in at central midfield as well really comfortably. Matt hedges has appeared now twice off the bench over the last week which is music to the ears of se dallas fan so dallas starting to turn the corner austin finally get some goal scoring so i think they're kind of meeting at a pretty good high point for this first ever match up yours with the mellberg. I went around or what around you drive but i did. I don't watch every game. New england revolution home i had to i had to. It's the first place team in the league versus. Yeah i in the east versus third in the east like dan. You can't avoid that. I guess one of our should picked it so that china. Your play should've because colorado was the easy pick easy pa so hindsight there the union go traveling to new england. Coming off at three zero win against pfc. And we haven't really seen this union team tested with andre in goal and jose martinez and everyone healthy guys doc. Santos should they just haven't been themselves for like a month and a half. They haven't so were but they were against toronto. Jim curtain came out and said he's like this is who we are. Just haven't seen it so now. You're going against new england minus carla's. He'll but they're coming off. Zero zero draw nashville nashville just defended. This philly team does not just defend. They're going to attack. So i feel like this is going to be a wide open game and we're going to get a good sense to see how good this team is. And what does the revolution look like without carlos. He'll so. I think it's going to be an entertaining game. A must watch. And it's not because i'm calling the game year. It's not it's it's you know what it's always. It's a little bit of a roulette for me. Every time. I turn on a revs game on muscle. I have on my. Gimme the revs broadcast. Give me the rams broadcast. The ravs broadcasts don't always get it. But i'm happy. Do you get tickets ticket. Sounds oh yeah my man charlie. Charlie doesn't get revs misdescribed in paris. Says right now boy. That's stuff Let's get the mail bag. Of course more news running in Day on jovanovich is confirmed for la. His twenty two. Signing a neekam ran over senator hart and last is reporting that the chew thing for the sounders is as close to being finalized. Yeah it's a lot is happening right now. Live with the twenty twenty two now. It feels like it's long term right like this isn't seattle saying how do we win. Mls cup this year this is. This is a good asset. We can bring him in now. Probably on a good deal and then you figure out talent later it has always worked for seattle to operate that way. Now they just have more options to do it. All right let's go to the mailbox for a one zero six zero s extra at imola soccer dot com. It's been fun show. Let's put a A bow on a dave. Pick the best of the best. So sean basically has a question which she's asking. Do we already know the front runners. Four supporters shield. So he asks. Do we think all the supporter shields contenders are the team. You think will win. It is already at thirty points. Through seventeen games. S casey seattle galaxy. Revs orlando colorado nyc. Orlando's twenty nine orlando's twenty nine. Not quite enough grew. He put them in there he said colorado nyc could get there because they have one game enhance it on twenty seven and if you think that the shield winners in that group do you think the shield winner will make mls cup this year for the first time in. I don't even know. I guess in toronto in two thousand seventeen you. I think that would be right. Let's try to narrow it down to. How many teams we wanna narrowed down to three or just pick one with the big one. I think he's asking is the one in that group already. Yeah i don't think anybody's gonna be able to jump that In my opinion like Let's see new york. City has a case especially if they hold on all these assets in those those attacking pieces growing burgas back. They've got such great home. Formby look to a team with both. I mean i think new england in the east to me everybody else in the east probably doesn't have a shot at it so to me new england in the east and then it's kansas city and seattle in the west and honestly i expected to come from those three teams. Okay would you put any other team in. Who would be the outside team that you would push in outside those three. That's like that's not some groundbreaking answer from me. Those are the three obvious choices. Yeah i think the two outside teams would be minnesota and minnesota twenty three points. They have to make up so much. I gotta pick it outside team. I'm saying that you can pick it in that group just outside the top game Yeah i don't actually think. But i think that the teams that are gonna win it are in that group. Do you have any detroit. Three outside the top three charlie. That's feels like your nick. Says is raphael. Wicky coaching not to lose when chicago team. Desperate for points is at home. Playing a five-man backline the seventieth minute and trying to draw fouls in the defense third. It feels like he's coaching not to lose. Yes and i want my coaches to coach to win. Yes he's coaching not to lose because they have to defend first because there's the there too vulnerable in the attack so i think a number of coaches go through this process where you say. Let's lock it down. I get our defensive principles. Squared away and then we can move forward with each step and try and progress. Because they don't have some creative goalscorer who's gonna who you can look to attack i and have kind of your offense lead by by example by scoring goals and winning balls off the counter press and trying to have a high line and focus on you know trying to defend higher up the field chicago fire. Do not have that. They don't have that so you have to drop deep defend first and then look to you know. Play off the counter. Maybe there's a set pieces and builds confidence that way all right. Let's finish up with puneet gal from la who says longtime listener armchair analyst cult follower which he does. He does have a colt writing. Like the page boy hat. It's all like payne stewart. Their code is they meow at each other for sure. They all have cat. Yeah he says we've seen video clips in heard about big man. Whisper hakeem allies on tutoring more recent. Nba stars like lebron james. Dwight howard amare stoudamire. Everyone went to go work with with allies. It was the years. Yeah it's given what we solved gerald deficiency in big man up in linkup play to such a big man whisper existence soccer that we can send decay to or maybe a defensive holding mid whisper that gianluca boost yoke. Spend the summer with all right. Who's who's the. Who's the hakeem for for darryl charlie. No you can't say yourself. I i would i would be a great mentor for a player like delta but if i had to go out and pick someone it'd be any johnson i know he's interested. He's got he's got a lab. Is there to get them in there. I mean it just makes perfect sense because in his day andy johnson could could scare center back in the league on his day he he he had the pace. He had timing in the box. Score goals and it was due to his runs and his whole up play in his understanding of where to be at the right time when a winger has the ball or how to set up other other runs by you know doing a dummy run. Basically just to get get the idea in a defenders had a. He's gonna make this run. Oh i know he's gonna make on this time and then you peel off the back shoulder eddie. Johnson was was a special player and he doesn't get a lot of credit when you talk about strikers in american soccer history because he was one of the players i looked up to and so i think for deka. That'd be one striker. I would look to have a conversation. The lab is down there. Speaking of lucas. Luca has been in the lab. That's michael bradley son. So we covered that one there at eddie training him up as well loved to see this next generation vibrant with the older generations as well. I'm picking up that knowledge. Alright let's get outta here. I'm gonna finish this one from alex. I'm just going to read the first two lines email. 'cause they're absurd last week. I emailed about the lack of respect. What are you talking about charlie. Davies is on this show. Once a week we talked about all the time harleys he'll etc. He's complaining about having to listen for fifty three minutes before we spent three minutes discussing the revs gutsy performance over the weekend. Go talk to all the other clubs in the league man. Everybody complains about this case is way better than any case for the revs. This season we probably put ten minutes on their names just in this show so yeah i mean go like literally talk to cincinnati right now chicago vancouver miami would they don't you just name all twenty seven teams. It feels like that's what's happening literally seattle and but literally. They have no love. No they get no love. That's true as is tradition. We've ended with a list. That's for us. We will see on monday. Everybody hit us with your Male for one zero six zero last extra at extra time on twitter here. Enjoy your weekend was.

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Brandy, and the curse of the bubble bowels

Comically Anxious

1:25:10 hr | 1 year ago

Brandy, and the curse of the bubble bowels

"Hey Street. People History people I'm brandy and I am Becca Your Street people we're the host. This is comically anxious. This the show where we call out craigslist Weirdos over share to the point Dr Parents are disappointed and invade the privacy of the street people. We're here to make you laugh and cry. Provide you with the latest and greatest. News and pitch about life. Let's get weird, you guys. Let's do it. We're very low energy right now we've. We've just been low energy for a while campaigning. No Hey. Welcome back. I knew week it. Yeah Yep the Monday. It is sure as Monday Roy doesn't feel like a Monday today on Sunday. All right well. We hope that your week wasn't as terrible as other weeks that you might have had. Maybe, it was like better week than the worst week of your life, and that is really John and ask for exactly. I mean nothing. Exciting's happening these days so no. Well let's recap the week that we've Hab all right. so I'd like to start off with how my dog doesn't appreciate me. I pay her bills. Yeah, I pet her you do I. Give her treats taker on walk. Always I play with her. Yup! Put a blanket over her head. bathe her. Yeah, treat her well. Exactly you know what she does. What hit me in the face? Yeah, and then I have a big scratch across my face from her, and it's like I. Don't understand, and then sometimes I'll just be sitting there working, and I'll just look and she's in my bed. like what are you? I get nothing I get nothing. From. What are you getting out of this Itami? She hits me. She lays in the bed all day. She's lazy, Lazy and abusive. Yeah, and so like. How long will you stay in this kind of a relation? You know it's really strange because I just left a relationship like and it's like I jumped right into another one. Jumped right back into it. I was like I need something that doesn't appreciate me. I'm feeling to appreciate it right. To go back to how it used to be, somebody didn't appreciate me and Karen. Definitely doesn't so I'm just wondering if there any hotlines. I should call my dog I thought about. Her Hey. Come get this dark. She's hitting me in the face. and. It's not the first time she hit me in the face I know she hasn't been the face all the time and sometimes, and then the other day after she hit me in the face with their tooth like it's really funny that it's funny because that initially this will starting off as a joke, and now it's. Still Joke started crying. Sounded like becoming real I. Start Crying about it not the first time. She's hit me in the face. She stabbed me in the throat. She hit me in the face with their tooth. She's headbutted me. She's like hit my the bottom of my jaw. Where my teeth hit each other it's it's not healthy. No, it's not a house. She's acting is not healthy needs to see somebody I even have to pick up her poops and like. I'm not understanding what I'm getting. Rightness right so I just want. I just work at my computer all day and I look over, and she's just asleep. Yeah! LEIST waiting to the next time, she can hit you. Like she's not in a position for me to hit. Are About one she when she come is better. Must I'm going to save all my energy to hit her missiles? Mind Trick. I look really really cute. Then she comes over to me and that's when I attack. I. And that was her bads. Carl choking because every time I come over tobacco's I. Don't know what she does spent. She starts choking on I think she just should just choose on the carpet fibers like there. She's just doing it again. I met okay. My thing of the week is that Rapunzel, and I went out this weekend. we wanted today drink because he had the weekend off, and he doesn't normally, so we got dressed up in like old timey old fashioned closed like nineteen twenty s close just for fun, and we were going to walk around the modern modern museum, because in my head I thought how funny to be wearing vintage clothes in a modern art museum. So, we went out and we got some drinks, and then after having had those drinks, neither of US wanted to walk around. So then we just proceeded to get more drunk at a bar wearing. Weird clothes and then we decided. Tattoos are idea right now, so he went to go get a tattoo. I didn't get one because there was known available, but Rapunzel did and so we're sitting there and it was a six hour long. Pat To stir. It took for fucking ever. Are you serious? Did you get home and we didn't get home until like eleven thirty last night. At sell unlike Yo I was I was dying inside. I wanted to die so hoover home without I wanted to. I did but I thought about it lots of times and I'm wearing a vintage dress like a nineteen twenty s vintage dress, and I'm sitting on a foldout metal chair for fucking six hours, and so it was like Nah, so I go up to the front of the store and I was like. I want to buy the biggest shirt you have. So I bought an extra extra large t shirt from the tattoo parlor and I. Put that on. So I was wearing like these. I bought these. Like stretchy shorts from target gold to go under things that are light colored so i. don't have to wear underwear, but I can wear shorts so wearing those gold stretchy shorts, a jain norm EST to exile t shirt for dudes. I'm wearing a I think they're called like a close chat with like a twenty s hat, and I had on twentieth heels. And I looked like I came straight from an insane asylum. I just sat there while his tattoo. That was my thing of the week. It was fun. Also I'll put up a picture so you can see what it looks like. Yeah, we should also put up a picture of the abuse that you take from Karen I think that would be at that. Yeah, I just feel like you need a visual. Okay what's next next up is. I have to Clermont through Gloria. Grey sleigh. A. Feeling inside of I just keep going. Yeah, yeah, you sometimes. Sometimes. You can't stop yourself. all right so this is a bit where we put random Internet street people on blast. Let's do it. I am now forty two years old some time ago. I got divorced for the Third Time Red Flag at present I am living a lonely life again, but I don't WanNa live this lonely life anymore. If a man of any age now wants to have a living with me, I would think my life was sacrificed. She sacrifices her life because she. She doesn't want to live a lonely life God. It's have to living with me. Yeah, it's it went from like grammar that made sense to what just went totally off the wall, a yeah I would think my life was sacrificed what? If somebody wanted to live with me. I would think my life was sacrificed. As if that's the bad part, but she's asking for someone to live with her, so but she well. Maybe if any man any one, yeah, have to living with me. I would think my life was sacrificed. I don't know we should just want a boyfriend. It's a real conundrum. Live with her at sea it could be. That would make the most sense for someone of her track record. I think probably don't get married. With, anyone heap enjoying people as you should, but don't commit to a marriage, and maybe don't move in together. Sounds like you've had a lot of and she's really narrowing down the field. She's like it's actually very sad. If you consider how desperate she is because she's like any man of any age, she's just like I need. Any other purchased a man. You're a man. Good I'm willing to let you live with me or or not. I'm not sure we're not really sure by. Her life would be sacrificed. Really stepped right up. Right up sounds fine. Step right up any men and Niemann, he man. She wants her life sacrificed Knicks okay next up is twenty-seven year unhappy Gal I'm just looking to fuck some cock and our south. It's probably suck right, but who knows. I mean the money symbol. Probably. I. Don't know I, said yeah, but it could be fuck. Okay! I'm over okay twenty-seven year unhappy Gal, I'm just looking to suck. Some cock. Cock has zero in. It may be more if you want to fuck me. Oh, well, so she's all right with that. Okay I'm ready. Lipsey. Looking for not relationship, just have some happiness. Contact me phone number. She! She got all piracy at the end. To me, phone numbers on phone number. Twenty seven year unhappy Gal, so she's looking to suck some cock, and mainly more you WanNa? Fuck her It would be really funny. I I can't imagine maybe you know what never mind I'm in my head. I'm thinking like what man's going to have. You suck if and then be like that's goodbye. No, he's GonNa WanNa fuck you, but it's not true if she sucks to completion. I was GONNA. Be like get Outta here. Nobody wants you here by. How do you F-? Weird She's desperate telling you that if she if she just suck some cock, she's still going to be unhappy. Not a whole lot of happiness comes from cock sucking. Opinion? I've never sucked a cock and dot com happier now in my humble opinion i. find it to be like for them mostly. Yeah for me at all. So, but okay, do your thing. It's what you light. Whatever makes you happy and Cox? Lacking could be, it could be. We don't know her. Next steady. But East Dallas. It used to be so easy to find a chill open. Minded down low guy to kick it on the regular with. The with should be not at the end of the sentence. Not so much. These days I'm thirty. One white male in Old East Dallas Super Clean, looking for forty, and under chill open, minded download dude that wants to kick it on the regular for safe meal activities. What I want to know is what a down low. Mel is like I. Feel like that means like he I'm assuming I'm assuming that the safe male activities are banging activity. Yeah, that's an internet download part means like not obviously gay right like Oh. Maybe or maybe it means discreet like down low to me. You know it'd be like short. I like a man who's no taller like. I just imagine he needs to be a needs to be a not super, obviously gay or like. Tell everybody about it Kinda. Guy So not flamboyant not, either it means not flamboyant or like not going to talk about. It I can't decide. I guess we'll have to contact him to find out. Chill Open minded download do. Such. Weird but. What if you're man in? You're reading that chill open mind than damn low. Well I'm open, minded and Dan low, but I'm just not chill. I don't have any Chil- or like I'm chill, but definitely not in line I like to keep. It closed minded. But I do WANNA. Do safe male activities to imagine. It's like stamp collecting like coin collecting more like what else do what else. What are those where you throw those bags and they will only bag whole. Over Game But but traditional barbecue game hell bag. What does it call? We live in Texas. No CORNHOLE! I like whole bag better. We should ask. Are. We GonNA. Are they gonNA be whole bag. On a whole bag today. And looking to play whole bag looking to. That would be such good craigslist ad. I'm looking to whole bag. Down some chill openminded down download chicks. WHOLE BAGGING That's like the when we had was like. I'm looking at tunnel. Weird weird all right next. I am an older masculine fit, white male with the physically impaired spouse. I'm looking for someone to communicate with or someone as a similar situation. Thank you so on the surface immediately in my head I thought. This is just really sad because he's feeling like. Maybe he's having to be more of the caretaker than the spouse and he just want someone to relate to about something you know if. If someone has similar situation, but then no, because he says older masculine fit white male. Yeah, you're trying to bang. Yeah, that's not you just wanting to communicate with someone? That's not you going like I wish I had someone who also has a disabled spouse? That like we can kind of commiserating. You know you wanNA fuck somebody while you're disabled spouses just disabled. Just GonNa. Leave the house with. Leader Disabled Spouse home and going to go out and Ben Peo. Because because you don't want to just communicate sir. I, see right through you. If you wanted to communicate, you wouldn't have been like masculine bit white. Male. Stupid Don, you're dumb. You're a dumb. We don't like your dumb masculine fit white male. With, a disabled spouse, probably just if you're unhappy, probably just don't stick around and do things like that behind your spouse's back so so and also says with a physically impaired spouse. The what if the person's not disabled at all? Like? Maybe they just are ugly lick. Impaired. Like if you just call instead of ugly. My husband is physically impaired. Terrible! Okay next. Any ladies like getting flashed looking for minded ladies that lie to get flashed buying guy with the Nice, pretty one and watch him stroke at a social distance. That's not my favorite activity. I am Nice Pretty One. It, it's bedazzled. False sparkley he your social area. He takes his pants off. It's like Glib glimmering in the light your. But it is pretty. But. I just. With the Nice pretty one, the it's not even the flashing part like I can imagine a woman being like yeah I I really can't. But maybe there are women that are like get flashed in public by dude, but then watch him stroke, but that parts the part I don't get the watching him stroke part basically I. Don't understand how. You're just supposed to be normal in a public area while you watch a man master also I want to know what the criteria is for a nice pretty one. I, I suppose that's in the eye of the beholder. Right yeah I mean. Has He like this? He compare his penis to other pupils. He's like this is a nice pretty one. That's true. Maybe he's been told though, maybe because maybe he's been like. Oh, he i. You have a Pretty Dick. You know I've heard friends say that about people's dicks before I've never said that about Dick, I didn't say it was you yeah? But it was you. But it's not you. Definitely wasn't maybe it was so wasn't. I I. Don't think I've ever thought Myself Pretty Dick. Mostly thought like. Anson Day. It's going to do its job I really just care what I look for in a Dick standard-issue. There's the Dick standard-issue Dick. I don't need anything pretty. I don't need it to be like fancy Dick Right. Average average. But this one's pretty. If if there are any women in the N., own North Hunt, the north, fort worth area to be flashed, but then also he's not gonna just flash you. It's going to be an initial flash, and then it's going to be like you watch. Masturbate situation than we know a guy, but you also don't have to worry about getting covert. Said added district is willing to say six feet away from you. which is whenever I'm watching anybody masturbate I. that's a strong like must be six feet away from me. Yeah so he's willing to abide by that. Welcome back to another magical mental health moment with gene. Gene I like the I. Like the vocals that you added in the back of that brandy. Well I am very talented at throwing my voice, and I can make it sound like a small child. A woman of many talents. Realistic with someone in distress inbound. All right. You guys, so people listeners, everybody everybody here. We're going to begin our deep dive into anxiety, disorders and today. is so exciting I really feel like the spotlight is right on me. I'm just feeling so honored because we're GONNA be talking about hair pulling disorder which. is also called Trick Tila mania, and let's jump right in, shall we? See You. Fine all right so I it's recurrent pulling out of one's hair, resulting in hair loss repeated attempts to decrease or stop hair pulling. the hair pulling causes, clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational or other important areas of functioning distress includes negative emotions, such as feeling a loss of control, embarrassment or shame. Significant impairment may occur in part because of avoidance of work, school or other public situations. The hair pulling or hair loss is attributable to another not attributable to another medical condition e EG dermatological condition. The hair pulling is not better explained by symptoms of another mental disorder. So as just to run through a few of these just because I can completely relate Let's see here I feel like for me it definitely I feel like a loss of control because there are times like I I, really feel like I can't stop pulling No matter how much I want to and embarrassment sure because people that notice will like, smack my hands or tell me to stop pulling, and then like get immediately full of shame and embarrassment. So so that for sure It's weird, because it says significant pyramid may occur in part because of avoidance of work, school, or other public situations and I don't feel like I avoid anything because of it I feel like. Along with things I do that I have I also have a really significant, really serious sense of. Obligation. So like no matter what even if I was bald, you're gonNA. Catch me at school, work or public situations because. Like if I have to be, there have to be there like I. Don't feel like. I can be like I'm not going so well so I don't have that. So your. Treatment that. You receive your mental health treatment. Is Perhaps based upon Your generalized anxiety disorder diagnosis. That you meet. Criteria for Tila Mania. In that, either causes clinically significant distress, or that an causes impairment in social, occupational or other areas and functioning, so you're saying it does not cause you impairment and perhaps it causes clinically significant distress that happens with n you Doesn't perhaps it's just something. A body focused repetitive behavior that you experience in addition to your generalized anxiety disorder, which is what you are your primary disorder that you are being treated for right. so in order for someone to be receiving treatment just for tricky Tila Mania. They would have to meet. Criteria see it either causes clinically significant distress impairment I feel like the only way that it impairs me at all is like I. Don't avoid work or school or public situations, but let's say This is like an embarrassing thing, too, but see this is the embarrassment part of it, but I'll pull my hair out. Maybe if I'm at work or something and notice I've wasted did like. A serious chunk of time pulling my hair, rather than like doing my work or or like Alabi at a stop light and I'll start pulling my hair, and then even though the light is green. I'm like Nah I. GotTa find this hair. Those bars I would say are the impairment parts. That's very honest of you to share and I'm sure that's experienced. By other people with with the same diagnosis. The diagnosis was moved. Between DSM FOREIGN DSM five from Impulse Control Disorders section to obsessive compulsive disorder section, due to the large overlap was obsessive compulsive disorder They're trying also to change the name from mania to hair pulling disorder, because they because of the inaccurate association that's made because of the word mania. It doesn't have anything to do with mania that happens in mood disorders. So those changes have been made. They also removed a criterion what said. Noticeable hair loss that must be noticeable. Others lay remove fat, because oftentimes individuals poll for a widely distributed in the area on their head, so it may not result in noticeable. That's that's for me. The only place that gets been is like on the crown of my head on the right side. That's where I. pull from very often but I space. Excuse me space it out enough that you wouldn't notice that I'm bald. So, now there was another criterion that was removed as well. That was a feeling of tension before or a sense of really gratification, Arthur. That was taken away because perhaps people don't. Those things that was in place when. repeated attempts to decrease our stop so the criterion of having that sense of tension before. And after that was removed gas, no necessary. because. oftentimes I don't even notice that I'm doing it. It's gotten so. You're varying levels of awareness. For Different folks who who are troubled with hair pulling most people will from their scalp, eyebrows or eyelashes. May also other. into in this is interesting. there may be associated rituals so some folks might search for particular texture of care to Paul. they may be attempted to pull the hair out intact with the rue. Des, they may examine visually examine the hair, or tactically examined the hair or even early cheer on the hair impossibly even swallow the hair, so there may be different rituals associated with the hair, pulling in addition to just randomly pulling out here Yep so for me specifically, it's definitely a particular texture. It needs to be like a piece of hair. and. That's why like I am not. I would say is also why I'm not bald because I'm not just pulling out every piece of hair employing I'm searching searching and searching for peace of here. That's course, and then once I do pull it out. I like to pull it out from the root, not because I care about the route or anything. I just don't want to rip I. Don't like the sound of it. Breaking I don't know that's another weird thing. And then I do I do I like I will twist it around my finger and pull it and feel it like I'll feel even feel it between my lips I. don't eat it, but I'll feel it where I feel coarseness. And then once I liked basically. Made it soft BMI hand oils. Looking for another one. Sometimes, there may be some nervous energy inside before. Doing bought this particular or anybody focused repetitive behavior. Sometimes it's just it's down out of boredom. Sometimes, it's just out of habit so different things can. Begin that habitual. Behavior. Some folks were here from other people from pets, dolls, or sweaters or arbit- some people will pull from other fibrous materials. I wish that would I wish that wouldn't satisfy it for me because I wouldn't be pulling my hair at all. Just be pulling. Hurt some pulling your dog fair. Full something else. In the majority of people who struggle. Tricky Tila Mania. Also have an additional body focused repetitive behavior, such as skin, picking nail, biting or lip. Chewing Yep Yup Yup skin picking for sure skin picking all all day like if I'm doing really good at not pulling my hair. It's cousin picking my skin. If I'm doing really good at not picking my skin, it's 'cause I'm pulling my hair. It's like one or the other. So about one to two percent of the population, struggles with hair pulling disorder, and it's of those who are treated a ten to one ratio female to male damn a philosophy. No, we don't know if that's actually reflects people who Have those kinds of behaviors or is, it reflects differential treatment seeking because men. Won't you know care as much if they're pulling their hair out? and. A woman might care more about the or me or the reasons of right. It could be differential treatment seeking not actual different. Hold on hold on. Her there's a big portion of song being sung in the background here. She's got the she's got the nose Becker again. Emptied the laundry basket, and then she got the no soccer. So sorry. Girl Scout I mean listen. He's finding ways to not be boring. Started employing your hair out. That's true. I think we just have to go forward. Okay? just know that a musical happening in the background. prognostic risks and prognostic factors in is There is a dometic Boehner ability, and there's a link to if you have a first degree relative who struggles in the interesting. It's experienced similarly across all cultures. Ought typical onset is during puberty. and. It is usually chronic. And symptoms may worsen. Accompanying female hormone saying I don't like that. Does that mean like every time you're starting your period or does that mean like during menopause? means that it means monthly. Yeah as as hormones are changing monthly, and you're having a different aspect of experience, there will be with ebbs and flows to how much you might Hick or poll. Okay there are some infrequent. Medical consequences including carpal tunnel syndrome, blaffer, itis, which is a swelling of the eyelids, dental damage and anemia from swallowing hair, so for those who? Shoo their hair. There's that infrequent. Extreme medical consequence. It's usually call morbid with depressive disorders and also skin picking disorder. Yep as mentioned. And can be treated. It's treatable with either on individual therapy, sometimes in combination with medication antidepressant anti-anxiety. Also smart technology. There's a smart bracelet. It's a custom gesture detection bracelet that record your specific motions, and then it sends a vibration to to you to increase awareness of your triggers. Interrupt your pattern of unwanted. I never heard of that. This is called the bracelet that I found his keen by habit. Aware there you go, enjoy your love in Cambridge by habit aware, nice, okay, developed by a young woman who suffered with Catella, mania and in her later years in her twenties. She and her husband develops this and it has been You can find her on tax. I'm sorry I didn't write her name down here, but it has been very successful for people. I think he runs in the mid hundred, hundred, hundred, maybe fifty dollars. That's not terrible I mean for me the things that I've tried. I've definitely gone through cognitive. Behavioral Therapy and I find their P very. Great I like it, but I don't feel like. It has stopped me from pulling my hair. use medication I've also tried things like those fidget spinner things, but it just. But it doesn't give me the same tactile sensation like holding up something that spinning on my finger is not the same as feeling something course between my fingers, so that doesn't. It doesn't relate it's not. It's not a good. Substitute and I would I, really want to try. One of those worries stones I've never purchased one like a little stone that you rub your thumbs on. I need to get I want to get those, and then also aside from that like I've cut off my hair recently. Just because I feel like when it's long, it's kind of more in my face, and then I feel like I have to pick it more. An, aside from that You know my I had a cognitive behavioral therapists who also suggested like always put your hair up like do a different kind of hair up style for like you know ninety days, and then see if maybe that helps, and it kind of helps I find myself fishing inside of the Pony Tail, or the brain, or whatever it is And then you know I recently, I purchased I've actually liked wigs since I was young like my family contested this East Lake wigs a lot and Part in part because I would pull out my hair, and I felt like embarrassed by it so I'd WanNa wig and so I bought a wig recently. Actually they're so expensive. Nice ones that look nice anyone who has tricked Philomena, or you know any sort of skin condition. They're the ones that look real. they're like a thousand plus two new two thousand three thousand dollars. That's ridiculous, just ridiculous so I bought one on at sea for about one hundred dollars. I just got it it. I'm going to see what I can do with it, but there are a lot of things you can do. But honestly it's I guess it really isn't obsessive. Compulsive disorder because I almost feel like nothing. No. Thank come pairs to pulling my hair. Thank you for coming to my talk? If you think about it A lot of people sit in a conversation and shake their foot. They have their legs crossed and they shake their foot right That's also a body focused repetitive behavior, but it wasn't. Well it could interfere with. Somebody's were in an interview and you're shaking your foot. Would send send the best message so? was behaviors can be mildly troubling Dublin. Or very troubling I remember when I I was doing a practicum. We're all during graduate school near. There were about ten of us that were being supervised or at if. Interns one woman had a skin picking disorder that was pretty distressed at distressing, at least to the folks around her, she had wounds all over her arms, and then read they wrapped in bandages, which were not clean, and she was picking during supervision sessions, and you know so that that appeared to be That it appeared that it was causing her clinically significant distress and it was distressing to people around her. So can, it can cause you know no distress at all such as just sitting there shaking your leg You know shaking your foot to very very significant distress. Where if you're going to become a therapist and you can't get a handle on You know the wounds that you're creating on yourself. That's that's a significant level of yeah. Yeah I feel like the only time I felt like serious distress I mean i. get that feeling of embarrassment every time someone tells me pulling out my hair, or if I noticed, that can't stop like I'm doing it. And I noticed, but I remember very specifically a moment in eighth grade I was sitting in a math class of course failing miserably because that's how I went through math classes. Yeah and I just realized I'd been picking my hair and I looked down and there was so much hair all around my desk, like just so much hair and then thinking like. So embarrassed, because when eighth grade I'm like I hope to God nobody notices and nobody says anything and like. I just left it there and I'm surprised actually that no teacher said anything to anyone because of the amount of hair that was there I was very surprised that I didn't get called into something who? Told something or pulled aside or something? bust I felt like I dodged that bullet. That was very distressing. Yeah? I can imagine yeah. But yeah, so it's interesting if anybody else. Is Out there doing this. You. Know him me up. We'll talk about it. Let's! Let's swap. GOOD WIG WIGS! We could buy. Or anything else to add before we go. no just if anyone is feeling extremely distressed. They can use the national suicide prevention hotline, one, eight, hundred, two, seven, three, eight, two, five, five, or the crisis, text line, seven, four, one, seven, four one. Excellent, thank. You will thank you so much again for another very exciting disorder. We'll talk to you next week. Absolutely. Next up is oh. I don't really know what's in the stars this year, but it's nothing good, so let's find out what coming out this week. All right Gemini. There's a light an easy atmosphere around with today's planetary energy, so if it's possible to go out on a date, you can expect to be very pleasant occasion with a lot of interesting information being exchanged information like I. Had it's like not just. Regular Conversation! It's not regular conversation like regular. Just information exchanges very funny if you are just beginning a new relationship than it's a good time to continue finding out more about each other and really enjoy the process. I. Don't know my my husband I've been together for a while, so no not a lot of new information being. Between the two of mostly old information, we kind of we just kind of reminisce about old information than we kind of talk about like boring household information, but nothing nothing particularly new. All right so next F libra. You may feel more inclined to give in to the whims of your partner with today's alignment of the planets. You would like to feel that you are doing your host to meet their needs and to provide a warm and secure base for them to come home to you all about that bay particularly keen to do things together and to feel that you are both working as part of a team. Nobody lives with me so like I don't think this works. For me factional thing that works for the partner, your partner you just you have a base C, and then you like. You make sure that that base is a good base. and. It's all about to base. And then the partner feels that base deep within them, and then they're like no trimble. Yeah, try so I feel like you just need to take care of your base right now I really need to take care of my base. Any Lebron's out there. Take Care at secure that base secure it down. Don't let anything happen to your base. That's what's important. That's the takeaway for libra today. Cancer. Today's astral energy may indicate that one relationship at least will benefit from the harmonious influences that are around. That's like a stupid sentence. If you're in a in the process of getting to know someone new, you'll find that your association is enhanced in a very pleasant way. We've been a very pleasant ways. The I know there's Nestle. Corrected it you will both have a lot of things in common. It's funny. Those you'll both have things in common. You'll just have things in common interest to. Whatever that will enable you to find many things to do together bringing a feeling of achievement. VIVEMENT You like Yogurt I like yogurt. Achieved how. We've really achieved something today. We both really enjoys frozen yogurt. but cancers cancers all too old cancers out there good luck. You'RE GONNA. Have a lot of things in common with other people and it'll. It'll feel philly with achievement. Lucky you. All right so next is. Better bare. Three. Why I up coming at you is a passage from Jackie passage. Sol's. Snow Jackie for twenty knowing. My BECCA! So. We really need to get some tape for this thing. He had some in my backpack, but I. don't know where it went. My Mom said that it should be nice weather when we go to Florida and if we stay at my rose apartment, we can goes night, swimming and stuff, because in Florida the water stays warm Oh iheart Florida. Why is it all foggy this morning? I was going to wear my black skirt. That goes to my knees, but I couldn't 'cause. It's too cold in the morning. That is so yeah. Yesterday was Gina. Ams Birthday. She got her life scenes. Wow, damn I'm tired. Okay, so I brought my cell phone today. I'll show you the stuff. Joey wrote to me. Shiver so What are you doing? Tonight Chad's party is tonight. BECA should go. You have to come with me if I go it's GonNa. Be so hard just to not eat. You know there's going to be junk food and Soda. Did I tell you? I'm going to stop drinking soda. Thank, God. We were so concerned about our food intake. I should be more like my high school sells. My teacher just said call in. But she met one of these and she put a colon. I still laughed well. I'm going to try. Oh, my Gosh, a hundred and twenty four pounds this morning. Only nine more pounds at Oh. Tim Won't talk to me. Why okay? I'm down my no, so did you cut? So did you cut? I bet you didn't ll. Okay! It's Friday where you guys cutting your sides non thinking maybe cut class, but I've only ever cut class twice in my entire life. Okay I was like. Did you cut a I'm not a cutter last night for me, it's Friday. weekenders think I'll put clear now Polish on today slash tomorrow, yeah, I have nothing else to say. Hard always Jackie later days I saw H. P. E. B. which is hot P.. E. Boy Today Oh. My Gosh Heart, taking up space with a lot of scribbles. Tino is hot. I really like she got invited to a party and I didn't. And then she's like. Should I go? You have to go with me and they're probably like. Don't bring her lease. Don't bring. She's a week. Hate her to. Nobody is inviting. You wear Princess Dress I would. Nobody liked me. Jackie I'm so happy for you. Tim Loves you. Why won't you go out with him again? Oh. Yeah, because you love something until you have it, and then you love them. The love is gone. Wow, really calling her outs. will. It's true and you know I'm so sad that I won't get to see my lover for three days. Him Okay well. Send Him My love right Well I kind of had a dream. I'm I'm really afraid to. Get here. To find out what those drain was about. Okay. Okay. well, I kind of had a dream that when we were. Leaving the plane I spelled plane. Unless I was on a plane like win goes blowing across. He was there, so we like hung out the whole time and he was going to see the Saint Patrick's Day parade to so we like chilled. The whole time it was great. Oh, thank God. That wasn't a worst dream. That could have gone a whole nother. Watch that happens to wowed then I would think I was. Able to see the future well. I hope I sometimes do think able to see the future. You guys know that do with with natural disasters and bugs. Well I hope I. Hope you kills Tim all over. Shining Kiss and I put kills. Tied, don't kill anyone. I'm not I'm not saying that some will maybe not all over, but you get the picture I hope. Your hair turned out great. My hair was achey after running today I. Hope my sex hair didn't secure up he. I don't. I don't know why I say things that I don't know anything about. I love him so much even though I've never talked to him, but you know. Love is really. If you think about it. Love really comes from looks yeah. For site. I kinda like. Loving someone. I can't have because they do end up. Liking you. You always end up wishing they didn't. Oh so in my head. I'm thinking like if he did like wouldn't like him so if he just continues to. Not Know, exist an item like him. Him Gray. I can keep loving hat. I love him. this way Okay. It's perfect just like him God. I, heard. He's not going out with Ashley because she broke up with him for another guy, Oh, well, sure not going to pretend it. Is TTF. Pat Buffer now. Well my dad is already mad this morning. Jackie guess what I'm sitting on. The plane again spelled wrong. Right now my dream didn't come true if you were wondering. Oh, well I guess we'll have to see him on Tuesday, who is he? Hunter was like going. Oh is that the I in my dream was that he got it okay well, tell him I. Miss Him for me. That would be so embarrassing if you. ECHINACEA back Mris like who? The girl with sex hair last week. Listen the chronicles are over for this week. We'll just have to wait to find out how nobody likes me next week. Okay next up. Hey, Florida, man, my say to know. I don't. Know I won't. Do it. I plead the Florida Manta. Okay, are you ready? Deputies. I don't know I. IT starts out with Deputy. Okay Florida tied up lovers. Wife Must Know Oh. Florida my anti up wives lover Cutoff Penis authorities say a Florida man held his wife's lover at gunpoint and cut off the man's penis before fleeing with the flailing appendage new, whoever the like the reporter was like. That's funny. Let's see here Alex Puna was arrested hours later on charges including aggravated assault. The sheriff's County Office released a statement. Tuesday said Benia broke into the neighbor's home. Sunday, tied him, tied the neighbor up and mutilated his genitals with scissors. Out that's not. Very Sharm no kids as IRS. At, a time off out, deputies say the victim told authorities that Baena then took the severed penis and fled across the street to his own house. Deputies said the motives stills under investigation, though an arrest report says that Baena caught his wife and the victim having sex in May. The victim was hospitalized. What happens if you're imagine? Imagine he does this. The wife doesn't know he's doing this and she walks in and he's sitting in a chair with the peanuts is like brought it home for you, Bitch. You like it so much. Would you like to stick here? It is brought it home for you. When have so many questions about a severed penis I? Don't think it gets hard anymore. Yeah, blood flow. There's no blood flow, so then like. Is it like? Is it. He's is when when it soft again I'm assuming it would just be soft right? Yeah, but I'm you know how like some men they say like? Oh, I'm a grower, not ashore. teeny tiny pb when it soft. Then when you cut it off as just like a little knubben. You just have like a little time. Assume it is, and is that appendage really flailing? Because it's like small, he must have been a shower, not a grower. Yeah, I guess so, and and then also what happens when your penis is cut off. Like what do they do for those people? I don't know you know how when someone like fingers get cut off. If you collect the finger in time, they can sell the finger back on. I wonder if they can do the same for you know what there was that story about that lady remember she cut off. Her husband's penis threw it into like a little like river, creek or something who they? He has it back. They put it back on. Okay, so I'm assuming they can but like. How long did he sit there with the severed peanuts? And then you have right, and then also yeah, exactly how long before the peanuts just dies and also. Imagine like having them so on your penis again is going to be sore right, but then do suppose it's even more sore like what if you accidentally get hard or like? A you're getting turned on, and you're Pena's newly sown back onto your body about saw fuck in her. The. Stitches just burst. Questions I doubt anybody who listens to this is a medical profession, but if you are honest, now let us know what happens to seven peanuts. Alright? Steep people and have you. Hello everybody welcome back to another episode. I mean another segment of. Street people today street person is. Not. Lizzie Lindsay could be anybody except Lindsey any any name but Lindsay and she's coming to us from. TORONTO TO WRONG TO. Who Get. Good, because we don't know any specifics, but also because we might stock you. Yes, I'm going to stop. We go! We go cut down their garden. I wanted. Thanks for the vegetables not Lindsey. Important. They're. Super important though first question. Did you go to Rossi? No. So what I'm hearing! Is You never met Drake? And you know what I think I came a little bit. I came along a little bit after Degrassi, so it was kind of like I watched saved by the bell that along the lines that I think that Degrassi is even after saved by the bell because there's. Listen listen not Lindsey. What's going on with your line? Nose, eighties right know. God. You're both terrible. You're too young. Let me tell you I missed. aggressee to it's fine. You did not Miss Royale. See neither view. Twenty nine, your twenty, almost twenty nine, so saved by the bell was late eighties early nineties degrassi happened in the eighties, but also when I was like in high school, they had a whole other like another like Degrassi the next generation. And that's when drake was on. It I never watched it i. don't really feel like that was listening not Lindsey I. Don't really feel like you're an actual Canadian leaking it. I didn't accused of it oh by act. Now I'm Burrito. Canadian I've been accused of being Texan it's fine. Oh yeah like. Do you know why they say that? I sound like I'm from? She does north. She does sound like she's from Wisconsin. Gil I. Feel like it's a compliment. It's not like the state. It's too hot for me. Sound like I have an accent. Yeah. Keep interrupting. Sorry, no! I'm sorry, then I see your accent I can see it coming out of your mouth. I see that accent. Right out your mouth because we say I'm sorry. But you say Sewri and its Keel I do that with my cousin all the time, so my cousin is from Oxford England actually actress from Cork? Ireland, but she says we always make her say. Whenever she comes here. I can't even do it like her boys like say or you. She hates us. I can't even do it. Oriented oriented she. We make her say things all the time. And this one time she, she flew here. She was visiting my uncle, who was heard father, and so she lives with her mom in England. My uncle is here in was. Sitting here in California, but I'm not in California. But when I lived in California, she flew over and she got lice on the plane, and we spend the night with her that night and we lose me and my three sisters and we all got lice. We spent the next day getting our hair picked out. Such a left turn. I was like fucking Katie Scott Lai. Katie are you listening? Fuck you with your life. She's probably late she she's a writer. She's probably end my cousin. Is Quite Watt. Imagine okay. So she is, she has taught. Online they say when when whenever we have a long. A look they say like they say pastor and not Pasta, so they probably say track. Anyway, I didn't even for a bit, but that accent's really different new lived when. I do live in England. Just because okay, let's be I wasn't. It was fun, but it was so expensive. Definitely lonely at times it. A Super Jests empire when there's a lot of adjectives that could describe it. Started just word vomiting got it got it so back to lonely. No unload only Toronto you. Go cheap and UNLE- Toronto, it, cheap. Toronto Yeah. WHAT THE HELL! No I didn't think Canada in general was yeah. Whenever we look at the back of the book, it's always a higher. What do you mean between the quality of living or ranch or just? The quality of living in Canada's more expensive correct. The new United States. Oh Canada. Oh Canada. Get you get the joke. High taxes yeah, well. You have free healthcare. We don't have that. Yeah See. See we would pay those taxes, but then we would have free healthcare soda even out. So we don't have that. Really, have free healthcare if your taxes are so high. Wow. Look spoken like a true Texan. Londono it's good question by it doesn't cover everything right like certain things like I'd fake it from what I've experienced in from what I know. Basic healthcare is covered by their certain things that aren't so flank. Jobs or like my rhino. Plas no. I don't so damn. Now there's a girl that girl that we like to look at the biggest vagina. She goes to Mexico to get her surgery. She from Canada Yeah. So there's there's a girl. There's a girl on instagram. Forget her name, but she has the world's fattest vagina. That's her thing that. Paying and she goes to Mexico to get her plastic surgery so I guess it's cheaper in Mexico still. I have so many questions. What do you mean it's? A slow my goodness. There's really no other way to say it, but you know the Mons pubis area. Okay. It's very chunky. Should get a fat. Mons pubis and like Fat Lips. I'll just take what I think it all. It's so lovely. Just kidding, it's not. We'll find it and send you a picture. actually just GonNa send you the instagram. Yes, Senator. She's just like if you haven't seen it. What's her name? Mary on Instagram. Oh my gosh well. I sent you the link on facebook. Messenger so hopefully you can see it, so it'll be fun if you're interested. In the world's status for China, it exists on Instagram, also huge lips and a weird body, but do your thing. If you've like it, cool, do you like it? Go do whatever you want about having the world's status but Jonah I'm gonna out fat her vagina. Well there are many things I'd be thinking about doing with my Jonah, I would. Just like compilation videos the view humping the air. Back could be it I. think that's what you could do I just feel like there's so many things to be done with a really fast China You know I'm not sure yet by jumping. Can maybe jump off a cliff and fly with it. Opens up it opens its wings. Okay. We gotTA. Get into. Eight minutes. People were like get on with it. No, not Lindsey. Not You guys on your China's okay. So. Speaking of China's not onesie in three words. To Scrap Yoga, Jonah. Seamless seamless segue. Thank you. I asked my boyfriend to suggests, but he didn't Oh in all storm story, he won't be joining. You ask. How are we supposed to lay face localized, probably in the middle of really heavy duty battle, does he not know goes incredibly famous girl. You video game came out so I. Think you're probably right traces. Boys are so similar HUD BE. My husband will be like that later. Okay, so my vagina! Yeah Tell Tales Dina. She's youthful forever young Oh. Two, that's the young I mean. We'll just Canada's. Run together as one word wherever young. Young. Accepting Oh. and. I lovely I like that one. Nobody ever has something like that. That's very nice. Yeah, you very good. What am I? Believe John Reminds? Me Of Disneyland. Really why? They know, but it's like forever. Young like you just like. Yeah, it's forever young and spontaneous. And everybody gets in because. They want that money very accepting, they want that money. Gets in. Paris now she's embarrassed. She's feeling she's blushing. Blessings of China's China's hot right now. Barry! Hop in China. Okay, we. blushing. Oh! I was like a band hop, pajamas. Are actually would be like if this is the nineties and we had like a in our garage Zine and we wanted to have like a buck. Men Band. It would be called hot but China's. Yeah It definitely goes somewhere. More set would approve. Okay so now onto a more serious question. What have you done? That has disappointed your parents the most. I was thinking about that and I think. My parents really disappointing the they found out tweet. It was really hard for them to accept, but I think. They just were kind of shocked. They run like our baby girl then. So I think that was, the worst bows was hardest. Young wasn't I relate numerous anyway that once probably. I feel you. Don't blooming. Incredibly, late blooming wise, obviously like any of the plants, I plan they may may never bloom. take their time. They really take their time. Okay, so, what have you done? That has disappointed yourself the most. I would say giving my time. Guys didn't serve it when we got living. Just that's a very common one. Yeah or people in general. I think that's something that a lot of people as people. Yes are willing to accept. The things that we don't deserve or like I mean we are willing to accept less than what we deserve. For longtime like making excuses. For behavior of the other person like will this okay, because and we do it for a long time, and it's weird that we are willing to accept the I. You just got cornered by ex-boyfriend today. What site instead I just got cornered by an ex-boyfriend today begging to get. But it's fine because that was four years wasted time, so like whatever? Stan with it. So, you stop doing that. Have you? Do you feel you? Stop doing it altogether like you've kind of made a giant jump in your life like fuck that on doing that again. So I did it, and then I went travelling, and then I was kind of with my current guy now like my guy. And I was traveling and I was like wait traveling or him, and for a while, they were sort of like this. and. I traveled tomorrow, and now I'm back home and I'm just like it feels so long ago. That I felt so lost in kind of indecisive, independent and I think now I'm like happy with where I am and who? I have like I feel very fortunate. You know yeah, yeah, good good. Yeah, Happy Day! Everybody is so happy for not Lindsey. A therapy sessions get so deep. No, it's good to get. This is hey like it when you're in really really like it deep the deeper the better. So then. What what would you say? Are Your anxiety triggers? I'd say feel out of control. Like. In all different ways like I feel like sometimes I wouldn't recognize. Oh. Feel out of control right a hue very earliest so clear by while I. Don't feel in control of a situation when I don't feel. I want say prepared like. I guess expecting I. Don't feel like I'm on top of things that were. Yeah? Also recently, because of pandemic I've been like really feeling anxiety with people. Feel, not culture shock from being like Adam public. Because obviously, it hasn't been that long. But it start-up like going outside back in the world. It's like our lives have changed so much that it's kind of like getting used this new reality so I think that giving me auditing trigger. That's just the thing. Yeah, I think that counts yeah I get it. I. Don't have a problem. Is that like Jerry talking a little bit? Maybe like a Gora phobia like you're free to leave your house like it's a little bit uncomfortable to leave the house. I. Don't even Gore. Bobi I think I'm just becoming more of issue. Number than I used to be or at least I. Guess Maybe Accepting Martha an introvert or that yeah. I went to the to the store today. COSTCO AND I felt like whenever I was paying. I didn't know what to do with myself. I felt really out of place, so was like. How do you pay anymore? I feel like Oh. Yeah a lot of Deborah Jeane. Everybody, I'm so sorry, my dog. She's wild, my I feel like a Lotta. Places aren't accepting cash at least here bill. We don't accept cash and I'm like okay. You're touching my card though. What fine I don't have a lot of cash to carry around anyways. It's not really an issue for me, but. I find a more irritated because I. I'm not the kind of person who's like I'm not going to wear a mask. I'll wear my mask. I wear my mouth going places, but I find I I personally affronted like if I walk into an establishment and I'm like folding my mask, but I'm not thinking about it like the other day I went into a convenience store. Were a walgreens thing where you are? No but I now of it okay, so walk into Walgreen's and I'm holding my mask in my hand, but not thinking about it because I'm not like. That's not on top of my mind like your mask on. It's like I didn't think about that before I'm not thinking about it now, ladies do you ever mask and I was like fuck like I'm not trying to get yelled at right now. I'm just trying to live my life like yeah I have a mass. Calm down. But then like that's really on me, but I feel like I get really flustered. Yeah, flusters, you. Yeah, but I was thinking about it the other day and I see all these people like we're not wearing. A mask is like ruining our freedoms and I was thinking if a store asked me to wear underwear on my head to go in. I. Do it me too I. Just do it I mean act. It would be hilarious achieve, but like. If a store was like, we won't serve you unless you're wearing underwear on your head, it'd be like well. I'M GONNA. Wear underwear on. My head actually sounds hilarious. Where and yeah, I would do it. Yeah, I would do it without them. Even asking I was thinking that and I was like yeah I'd do it because I'm a sheep sheep I'm one hundred percent. Come into the store, and if you want if you have whatever you want, I'll do it. Yeah, you WANNA dance you. Do I need to dance in Nansen? Whatever it needs to be whatever it takes to get in the store I'll do. Humboldt if we had to wear underwear on her. Each other with underwear. Just like that would be I, wish. My when my brother was alive, and when he was sick, he used to put underwear on his head as joke. Actually have like a Lotta pictures. We have a whole post about it and one day on on. I can't remember. It was his birthday like the anniversary of his birthday anniversary of his death. I don't remember but I got my mom and my dad and my step, mom, and my just all of my siblings. We all took a picture of us with our with underwear like little kid underwear on our heads. And then we had a picture of him when he was alive underwear on his heads, and we posted that and I think it's very funny, so yeah, I'm down like whatever you whatever you require for me to enter the store I'll do it long. We'll triangle covering. You're covering your nose in your mouth. Is this not a mask go? Oh my God! Oh. Doing that one hundred percent wearing thongs, one hundred percent wearing thongs as the masking going somewhere. If anyone. They'd be like. Okay. We'll definitely you know that's not a problem at all. We'll let everybody know. Everyone's going to know what you WANNA. Know what happened. Thong on her face. Okay. I digress What's the next question we've talked about? Your anxiety triggers funny questions now, so tell us about your most embarrassing Fart. So I. Don't really get too embarassed with and I've always had really bad ones like sometimes i. wonder if I have. TRACES OF IBS? Or like maybe some intolerances that I just deny I lead flight, sometimes know smelly trails yeah! Now. I'm so embarrassed because just like. Now I'm embarrassed. Embarrassed about how normal it is from UC smelling trails. Mice and everyone else doing that. They are. Though I mean I sure fucking do no one else does cool for them. What's that like? I do you've never been in a car with me, she's. My car smell days later. I'm like it smells like fucking brands colon here. Guilty so. I can't remember any specific times, but that happened, but I definitely cleared floors hand just like. Fully clear dancefloor like at like at a club or something. Yeah and just pretended that it wasn't happening and you get off the dance floor to. Dead that. Not Lindsey, that's for sure. That's hilarious. So then tells. How do you feel about putting in public places? I, really have no problems with it. Only. Only us. I feel situations might give generally pretty okay. I know user I've been in situations. Where like I had? The cubie. Happen. I don't. I don't think I'm desensitized to it. By. My GonNa. Why does it by the I? Don't know I. Don't know I can't do it. It's like a panic inside of my Ol- won't allow anything to pass through. Even, when I'm like travelling like we went to California, we were at my family's houses I'm even then head. POOP had a hard time pooping every morning. I pooped, but That's because we were at a house and I was like man. Nobody's here to judge me. I don't know what it is like if it's not my own house. I just don't feel free to Poop, even though I know in my head. It's like that's stupid poop, but. That's not happen. But public places like if I'm at like a mall or something can't do it. I mean if there was an emergency like I've definitely shit my pants while walking home on this trail behind my. Picture of my pants, but it was like when I had diarrhea when we do that. Oh. That's Oh my goodness the where I was GonNa say the question was had one time I was traveling so in Canada and it was really really hard where I was, and I was really said like I had drank eaten something really odd, and it was like coming out league. Meal. I like was in this. Not, mortar body like a shed sort of thing at this venue and I had to come out of this the stall. and. I had definitely clogged like it was like not even a toilet. And I had to smile I like smiled at her as a task, and I couldn't bring myself to warn her saying anything because there was a line of people with needs, a concert and I was just like good buck flushing. Bat, how I feel about public pooping. Yeah, and that's another fear of minus the clogging portion out clog. It I'M NOT GONNA say I haven't clogged toilet in my day because I have I have to, and there's no plunger do. What do you do you just Egypt you keep. Till it all spews out of the toilet. No okay and the last question. What's last question brandy? What is your most embarrassing moment? And that's the last question, but that is that is a question. Always my most embarassing moment. I feel like probably. Like being hung over not remembering when I was doing. That gives me so much anxiety the next day. Yeah! Over. Yeah, I feel I. Feel Shamed for days unlike there's honestly there's no telling what I did. Yeah, but I know I. Did some because I was drinking? There was a time I must have been. Nineteen or twenty, and I there was this guy that I was not even dating. His name is Eric. Palmer Eric he might listen I. Don't know he seems like someone who would listen to this garbage and. He. I knew I. don't even remember how I met him but I. Did we talk? We made out sometimes. He lived like an hour away from me. and He came over to a party that my friend was having an. The next morning, they were all laughing and they showed me this video where he and I were making out, and it was the the grossest thing I have ever seen in my I was like. So gross like we were eating. Each other time like I was wanted to vomit, but we were both so wasted. I don't remember I. Don't have any memory of it and I hate myself for it. Yeah, yeah, airy feeling yeah yeah. So I've stopped drinking narrow it. Sorry what I said I. Stopped drinking I'm drinking cider right now. Though but I'm only on number two I'm really keeping an eye on myself recently. Yeah, after I spanked your grandmother. That'll do it. She's also told my grandma's. You only have seven more years to live. Fun She was cleaning the mess. That brandy spills all over the outside furniture when it happened I. Remember your aunt made that mess. Somebody made that mess. Build wine all over the outside furniture. My Old Lady Grandma, who just turned eighty three today is like yesterday. She's pouring clubs so to all over it trying to DAB it out and bring just smacks are on the assets and she's like you've got seven more years to live. Do you. How did you come to that I? Don't know we'll see what happens. We're going to see if she has seven more years than we very surprised I. think it'll be more than that old ladies. Lady's GonNa live forever. Yeah, okay so. Did you even tell us? Oh Yeah, you clogged toilet way. Toilet Logger. Yeah, wait was that that? Okay, you as do I feel about public pooping. Okay now. What's your most mirroring moment? Oh. What's? We've really gotten sidetracked happening. I only talked about embarrassing moments. PROBAB-, Oh. I. I feel like I just WanNa. Go with the one I said Okay Yeah I think that was good enough one that one will do it. The the knowing the next person's about to walk in on an sure. Having moments we ask shaking your hand. Like there was no toilet paper. There was no. No. Love it. There is a beautiful place I just. Exactly not this. In particular and. So embarrassing, yeah, crush, or probably up there number one dot that makes okay. The last last question brandy is. Do you have any questions for us? All. Yeah. Okay to okay. What is your both of you? What is your favorite place in the world pain and why I haven't been to a lot of places in the world I'm not a world traveled like you not yet, but doesn't have to be like far away or even just you know. Oh, I. Guess My home I? Really love to be at home. I'm such a homebody. Yeah. I could say about yeah I it. There's no place I appreciate more than being at my own house. for me to to come to mind. So the first one is Claremont California? Because it's just adorable there, it's like a cute town full of liberal people and lots of really cute houses, and it's up against the mountains, and it's just picturesque, and the other one is in France. When I went there, I stayed there for summer for school We went to Monet's undergoing. Remember what city it's in or like what village and it was. It was beautiful and I've never seen something so beautiful. My life and I could live there forever. So, probably, those two. Nice. Also, what are you for John? Netflix's anything good question. I'm finishing what we do in the shadows, but that's on Hulu. Okay true don't have Hulu. He should get just to watch that very funny. I've watched it. It's great out vampire. Not It's A. TV show and Hilarious, and it's like so calming hilarious so. I'm watching that and then I just finished unsolved mysteries. I watch. I just finished that too, and then That's all I watching. I haven't turned it back on, yeah! I watched cold case files. I think very recently finished that I watched unsolved mysteries I've yeah. Those are the things I watch I you know I spent a lot of my day listening to podcasts or books or washing youtube videos of a few people I've been I've been listening to conspiracy theory podcast and I've been really into it so. Yeah. Yeah so there you go now. Everybody knows how exciting we are very you both very mysterious people. Enigmatic people say that about me all the time. Nobody says that about me Saul. She actually says that I'm not me. All metairie mysterious I'll be like Tony about the when you're young. I was never young. you're annoying. Down my hate, you Lindsay. This has been a pleasure. That's so much fun with you always a pleasure, never a chore. Let's do it again! I would love to. We're going to come. And when we we should come to. Toronto and we'll visit. You. We're GONNA. Come stay at your house and you can show us the most beautiful places in Toronto. I have a guest room. Perfect all you can share. Did you say y'all to make us feel at home? Thank you! Yeah? We'll even sleep on the floor anywhere, so we'll come over. We'll just getting the plane ticket. We're GONNA. Fly Up and then. Is it freezing cold? There still frozen. Is No. It's definitely really hard right now. I'm sweats, really hot. What is really? What's attempt. Oh Oh wait. She's GonNa say yes. She is going to say cells. We don't know Celsius. It's thirty eight degrees Celsius. Jardine high. Or her. Just? You know it's fine. We trust you What covered your. They're here. It was ninety nine degrees today plus thirty something, so it's like seventy degrees there. Oh, my God is that what temperature? It is there? No. Well then let's figure this out off. The Air Because I got pee real bad. Okay Lindsey Not Lindsey. Thank you for talking to us. Don't leave goodbye. Don't leave. All right so next up is bitch of the WE WE'RE GONNA TRY! Okay. Let's pitch okay so. I switched medicines I went from lax approach to Zoloft and I've had diarrhea every single day since I've switched over, it's been about two and a half weeks and I just diarrhea every single day, and I'm sick of it. I'm just sick of having I'm sick of the feeling. I'm sick of my bubble. God's I just want. I just wanted to be normal. Yeah, you can't. You'll never be norm. Yeah, it's just like my stomach hurts. Whenever like right before my stomach's like here. You should wear a diaper. I'm going to wear a diaper evidence ship my pants but I'm saying like then. You wouldn't have to worry about having to get up to go to the bathroom every time you had diarrhea if you just. Imagine wearing a diaper as an adult. No arable. Yeah, temp socks. The side effects sometimes are you have to decide? Is it worth the side effect? Yeah, but I feel a little skinnier Soleil. You actually do look then. I was noticing today. I, was like she looked skinny and I. Don't like that you need to switch medicines. You need diarrhea. Can I also have diarrhea? Location need the one that causes diarrhea. For me. I, actually have two things that you say that has do with medications, so I'm still unlike the pro I still don't have any issues with it although I did have a weird bout of depression last week I don't I'm not normally depressed. That's not a thing I typically have come about. It hit me for like three days. Of. Me I was having a time. I was feeling depressed and it came out of nowhere, and it was weird, and then like three days later I felt almost hyper active like hyper and friendly and nice again, and then it was like that was a little bipolar, like I, had like several days of like sad, super depressed, and then like way too upbeat, but a now I feel normal again I dunno weird aside from that though so. I do I used doctors on demand. That's the APP to get my medication NC a psychiatrist that way. and she puts in my for my. What's the re- reforms retail? Yeah, and so I went to go pick it up and I have the CBS at target, and they wouldn't give it to me because my insurance won't pay for it because the way that she wrote the refill is a thirty day refill or thirty day supply and two refills, which gives ninety days, but the it's just stupid the legalities of it they will not give it to me because she didn't write a ninety day quantity. Because because of the kind of medication it is I guess the insurance doesn't just let you let them give out ninety ninety days worth of that medication because I. Guess it can be abused. I don't know but. And so I still haven't gotten have like four days of medication left and I finally got a hold of a doctors on demand, and they said they were going to fix it so nine to go to back to target tomorrow and see what how fun yeah, it's really annoying. Yeah, I'd be annoyed. It's fucking stupid. Just me my Goddamn that I'm glad that you took care of it before you were completely out. Oh, yeah, I've been trying to take care of it for like two weeks now now she has driving me nuts anyway as that's what I'm a bitch about stupid ass, fucking medication stuff. I don't know it's just insurance. I want to ask everybody out there listening If. You have any sort of problem that you'd like. a dad figure to I. Don't know, give you information on select. For example. My Dad is the kind of data. Just tell you to rub some dirt into it or something like that when you're having a problem or he'll tell you to stop being a bitch. You know I was thinking would be really fun. If people out there want you know have like a problem that they WanNa Dad's opinion on And then my dad will come on the show, and he'll give you his dad opinion. He's probably GonNa, be mean he usually is so i. don't know if anybody be interested in that I just thought it would be funny, so if you do have a problem. You want a dad's information on not information. I gave You my dad's information. Here's my dad's number. Dad's opinion on, send them to us you can send them to hoop beard at comically anxious dot com, or you can message us on either our instagram, which is what comically anxious at inches, and then or on facebook messages We would love to have that. Dude Do. Just remember. Calm down. I WANNA. See it's all going to be just fine, but. No anymore Stellian, and that was. 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