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157: Activate Your Brands Community To Boost Brand Love, Sales, And Organic Growth
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Today new episodes are available twice. Weekly with your favorite podcast player. Like apple podcast. Stitcher google play spotify and many more you can also stream current episodes including a very relevant back catalogue directly from e commerce fastlane dot com now. Today's episode my guest is eric lamb. He's the co founder and president of a company called a buyer iq influence or marketing platform. And they help sherifi brands of all sizes all complexities to drive revenue and assist in creating high quality contents. Great conversation was a ton of learnings and at the end of the show. I have a really thank. Thank you so much for this eric. But there's an excellent excellent listener only promotion. It's available the end of the episode. Take the platform for a spin and get some discounts. And there's lots of great things happening so high eric. Welcome to e commerce fastlane. Hey thanks for having me really excited to be here pleasure. I know him bouncing calendars a bit and finally signed up today. Influence sir and this kind of creator. Economy is partnerships. This is like really really really hot topics. I mean a part of my quote unquote day job. Along with podcast really is have a book of business and i get to interact with a lot of brands and i know this. Sort of channel marketing. Call this sort of acquisition is really on top of people's radar and super super important to them but i also find they know the benefits of it or at least they believe they see the benefits. Because they're on social media the challenges that have. They don't really know how to calculate the roi they don't feel that the return on that spend is there for them oil technology to be able to figure it out into execute correctly the right creators and the right people brand ambassadors and. So let's talk a little bit about your platform more high level. I like what does the aspire iq platform do and the problems that you're now solving for owners. Yeah thanks for that. Happy to go through all of those things. Obviously it's a it's it's a challenging world out there for a lot of people trying to get started and influencer. Marketing is happy to go through a lot of my advice there but at a really high level spirit. He was a platform for brands to build. Engaged communities of influential people and that ranges from social media influencers to customers fans experts and more we are actually one of the first influence of platforms back when we started in two thousand thirteen. And now we're fortunate to have over four hundred brands clients from bigger names like walmart and samsung to e com leaders like purple glossy and hellofresh and actually in our last few years our focus has really been tightly on ecommerce. Where over thirty percent of our clients are on shop by ranging from billion dollar market leaders to five-person companies. You know for shop by really if you kinda summarize it down what we saw for you is building an in house influence a program that drives real are y. And that could mean anything from for. If you're a novice setting up the and organizing the initial program helping you source the first fifty influencers and tracking promo codes and affiliate links to generate the first sales or for advanced users it community something as robust as customizing a complete crm solution with integrated workflows across hundreds of influencers generating thousands of pieces of content. That optimize your whole stack. And if you've ever run an influencer campaign you'll know that it's really challenging and especially if you've all you've got spreadsheets and email so i think the three biggest problems we saw for our number one finding the right influences to create content for you number two managing the complex workflow between your brand hundreds or even thousands influencers in your community and number three analyzing their revenue in the are y that your program is driving which shoutouts shop affi- is easiest. He do using our shop. Fine aggression in ethic where we really made our bread and butter. Is that second one in building workflow and i think the reason. That's the case. Is that even if you've built like a small program that's where you're spending all your time and these programs can become these massive cumbersome projects with hundreds of things to juggle between communication streams data organization contracts product shipping promo codes payments. All this kind of stuff. And when we actually i started the company like we were running campaigns without products and we spent a year doing that and realize that. Wow this is the reason a platform like ours today to exist because of that typically clients come in and they're able to work with you know five ten times the number of influencers. They were prior to us in a fraction of the time. You so you've got like two parts to just kind of what i understand that. Just kind of summarize so there is a little bit of hand holding kind of a white glove service of the early stage people. Just don't really know what to do. You have some best practices in some case studies that prove that. No based on this vertical. What you're doing. We know what success looks like. We know what great looks like. We recommend z. Will help you do that to get you up and running ono okay. You've done influencers in the past the more mature brands. Then all of a sudden you have significantly more workflow and technology to be able to handle all of that and then that would be a team of people that would handle it more in house but access to your platform. Yeah absolutely and actually. I think one of the things we had in the last few years is we started a team color strategy team and their job when you first started before you even get into the platform is essentially figuring out your marketing goals and how that aligns to best practice strategy going forward and it's really important especially for you know if you're novice branch kind of building the program for the first time to do that and i think that yeah i think to your point about the product itself. The great part about america. Sorry tooting my heart a little bit is that you know. In our early days we built a lot of features to kind of streamline and guide the process because back then nobody knew what they were doing right like nobody knew how to do influence a barking. So we're doing everything from building trust between both sides giving you recommendations unlike what to say and how to price and all these kinds of things and that became kind of the reason why a lot of came on board and anything more recently the market has just gotten so sophisticated that everything is be customized and automated and kind of like tailored to the secret sauce. Lucien that brands nowadays have and so regardless. If you're a novice or if you're an advantage or like that. I think we've got a really great platform for both so sick about the journey of the founders understand. There's for you. But i would like to understand that story and kind of how you guys all met and just what you believe. I guess uniquely positioned because usually a founding team. There's usually some strengths and weaknesses and the whole idea of building. A great team is to resolve. Identify your weaknesses and not fix those double down your strengths. And so it sounds like you have some complimentary things going on from what i've read but it was just love to share some of the desires and expertise around the people that have built this platform yet. It's funny. I read that advice to you and i. I don't know that a lot of that thinking went into the planning stages of our startup but for better for worse but yeah we've actually got a four person founding team and i think unlike i mean we've been around for seven years and i think unlike most founding teams that are that big and have been around for that long. We've actually. we're still altogether. And i think that that's pretty rare. I guess we've got something going on right dating back to our early days. Probably seven years ago on his action our ceo in our original founder. He started this first. And was pissy running influence or campaigns out of his apartment with no tack and the other three of us worked at a company called pocket gems where i was running product. It's a mobile app. Gaming company rows running product and the two other guys were developers. There and i think the way i really got hooked on this was back then. Instrument was pretty new like they just gotten acquired by facebook. And i think you know the idea of business on instagram instagram. To have any meaningful impact on commerce at all was pretty novel. But what the way we were doing. Customer acquisition like i saw firsthand how social media especially facebook and instagram on mobile. We're going to change the game even though back then most mobile ads were for games like ours. So i got really into this concepts and we all started the company together. I think late two thousand thirteen and you know the early days are really tough because we were super early and not auto brands. We're really doing this. And we were basically begging people to let let us like run campaigns for them or do anything for them for free and we didn't have a lot of existing connect to the point of matching skills and expertise. We none of us came from marketing backgrounds. We didn't really have these connections to consumer brands. Way that some competitors did but that kind gave us an advantage in a way if i were to put a silver lining on it where you know most competitor at the time we're kind of these glorified agencies because that's what they were used to and we were really the only ones building a full software solution because that's kind of what we realized the only way that we're going to compete is by having the best software because we didn't have connections to p. and g. We had to kind of get our start working with these small ecommerce brands which you know to even through today have been a really core focus for us. I think the other thing is the thing that we've got really into your point about kind of like passion and drives like we've we've just been from the star dedicated to growing the creator economy and making constant creators successful. I mean even that back then was a pretty new concept now created to create economy. Now is a hot topic and everything but you know dating all the way back then even though we're on pace this year to To pay like thirty to forty million dollars to creators we've never taken a percentage cut. We've always tried to be really really friendly to the greater economy and we just eat sleep and breathe that stuff and i think we had this motto back then of like quote unquote don. Draper is dead and it was kind of like this metaphor for the way that the media world has flipped from top down. Bottom up where you think about so much of the content nowadays. And it's all coming from these ordinary people not big corporations or ad agencies and that's even more true today than when we started so i think you know even though the space is really mature now like every talking about twenty twenty one versus two thousand thirteen. I think we're kind of at the tip of the iceberg. Really when it comes to the impact that these influencers concentrator is going to have on commerce. Thanks for sharing that. you know. I downloaded a report that you created you part of the marketing team. I guess created this report. This twenty twenty one. I think it was the state of influence or marketing. Quite honest with you. It's an epic piece of content. I have shared it with a lot of brands. People that are like asking more questions about like. I want to expand my knowledge about like well. What's hot today. And where does my mind need to be. And what does great look like when it comes to influence or marketing. And i'm gonna make sure that. I put a link to your landing page so for those listening today. They can download this report because it really does talk about just the overall evolution of what's happened in two thousand twenty more specifically the pandemic and kind of what's happened with people being at home being on social media and then not able to do like full-blown folder shoots and brand so everybody's on social everybody's on their phone. And then what happened with social. And then the competitiveness and then bring it all back to community so i don't wanna give away the dock too much but it was really. It's really really really well done. So i wanna make some public recognition of the marketing team. Put that together along with your ear teams. How but i'd love to understand now a little more unpack that little bit. And just i mean people can read it but a nice to hear in this podcast today able to share any tips or just understand just the state of influence or marketing today from from twenty twenty an hour and twenty one and any strategies that you can share for brands listening today. You first of all thanks so much for talking about are the content that they'll really appreciate that and they obviously put it work into that. We think we process in the tens of thousands of transactions influencer marketing now. So i think we've got an incredible wealth of data to try to share out with a lot of grants today. And you know. That's that's definitely oracle there. Yeah i would say that you know. We're really i would say the state of the world and influence marketing. Probably more interesting than we've ever been. I think if you look at the past of influence in marketing i think a lot of ways influence markets bit of a bad rap in terms of probably what i'll call the earlier. It of inputs marketing where people focused on vanity metrics and just hiring kardashians and celebrities and people like that and didn't really know what they're doing and that led to a lot of like fenwick type of posts in collaborations by people. And i think people associating with marketing with kind of selling out so to speak. And i think that because of that i mean what. You're seeing in a lot of the more successful ecommerce brands that we've really worked with this kind of shifting focus towards both content and then kind of niche in smaller influencers. Because you've got this really incredibly rich long The the growth of the economy in the benefit of it is that you have the incredibly long tail of micro influencers that are just trusted. Experts in whatever their subject matter is and they have incredibly engaged audiences. They're really trust their opinion. And i think in addition to that brands really started to look at influencers as these truly holistic concentrator critters rather than just like. Hey what's your audience. Look like and how. Can i like make an ad for your audience. The combination of those things have been really interesting because then you can kind of build these great programs in communities of people that can make continent ongoing basis for you can be great advocates for you. You can kinda utilize that her harness it for all of your marketing through your social media at your e commerce to paid and everything else and i think that's probably been happening over the last couple of years i would say in terms of what's going on. I think the stage rent today. Like twenty twenty one is that that trend is even going more to the extreme. Where like brands aren't just doing this. For influencers so to speak. They're doing it. They're kind of expanding the definition of like quote unquote. Who's like influential for their brand. And that could be top. Customers could be power users. Experts working professionals in a really whichever groups of people have the greatest worthy math impact on the customers are trying to win over. And i think that's really interesting because it means that you know if you're a brand as long as your values and your product you know really means something. Your customer is any brand can really be successful building these communities. You don't have to have special access to types of influence or have like the biggest budget to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for these types of partnerships. It can really be grown organically and successfully and i noticed to talk with the whole creator economy talking about like just being authentic. Because i feel that you're right with some of these celebrity. I call them celebrity endorsements. That's really what they are. They're just endorsement deals at doesn't resonate with them at all. It really is. Just you know money for a recommendation. And i think my wife. He made this comment even recently of the people. She's falling on instagram. She can tell and she knows and appreciates the fact of a little bit that there can be some ads in there or some endorsements done by some of these influencers the challenges that when it comes to being every second post is something different again and it just no way that this person. What's been a couple of people that she's blocked now but there's just no way. Did they have that kind of affinity towards that many different so after a while people start to sniff out but now i also see some benefits. And i've been mentioning this to quite a few brands that i managed and you mentioned just a moment ago too. It's like imagined trying to find people who are already your customers. Even if it is a micro niche kind of a smaller market. i mean. there's even tools in the app store. I'm sure your platform even has his ability but it's interesting to be able to understand the social footprint of a particular customer of yours and there's tools to do this through the api and then say okay. Thank you for making a purchase on my website and now all of a sudden it knows that you have five thousand followers on instagram. Because it's connected. Api's lungs the same email address and then you're like okay. I'm gonna flag this order. And i'm going to reach out to this person automated or however going to do it but at least you want to build a relationship or throw something extra in the box. Thank you so much for your order. By the way we believe you're in the sweet spot of someone that could spread the message a little further about what we're all about. So does that idea ring a bell at all to you or is that something that you see people doing more recently now where it's their customers. But they're trying to understand their social footprint. Yeah i think it's one of the biggest trends that we've seen over the last year and is we call it embassador. Our best marketing invested. I can cover a lot of different things that really just means. How can you find word of mouth advocates for your brand again. They could be anybody. But typically i think people start with customer programs like and i think yeah. I think it's incredibly popular nowadays because it really is like this community of people that starts with people who are really excited to talk about you. I've seen a few different ways. I think if you were to kind of. Ask me for my advice on how to think about this. It can start very simply like you can literally make an email address on your social media like simple page like you said after checkout or something like that or as part of your email marketing program and just make it something. That's really easy to engage with like how people to opt in. Who are excited. Talk about you and you'll find that they really do. It won't be one hundred percent of the customers that come through but you will get people to apply to you whether it's through any of those different channels and when they join you know my advice would be to really engage with them. Honestly like the thing that i think. The biggest struggle people have with building a program. Like this is that it's slow. It's slow because it's like no each of these people it's not like they're you know one hundred thousand followers on instagram their everyday regular people but their word of mouth really matters because when they talk about something you know their friends their network connections. They knew that they really support that thing. And they're excited to talk about it to you. The people that they and they work with the way to think about the uses. I engage with them. Do things that of show that you care and that like you kind of share. These randomized with them. Things like that you can do. Things like setting up affiliate links fro links for them giving them kind of special promotions if they were to drive any type sales for you and if you get enough these you can really start to see like who are the people that are really spreading word of mouth free because we will see the analytics you'll be able to see it in their social mentions in the potential even sales the driving for you and you can start to kind of double down and invest in the people that are really driving the most word of mouth you can start giving them exclusive. Access to events product launches things that make them feel special early access to things again. It can be really time consuming without know platform and drive all the stuff. I mean you look at a company like the biggest kind of paradigm of all. This is like glossy- gloc- is now one of the hottest kind of direct to consumer beauty brands in the world. But they started as basically a community of just regular people who loved. Emily wasted beauty blog and they kind of really got into engaging with them. They would invite them in the office to try products out. They would get their feedback on like every campaign that came out they would feature them you all of their marketing programs and they might and most of these people are just regular everyday customers glossy. They're not necessarily like big influencers or celebrities or anything like that but they just grew this organic community from scratch and now they're one of the biggest brands in the world. Not because they've spent the most money on advertising but because they have this like rabid fan base community that gives them this incredible wealth of organic growth. So let's talk about the roi. I think it's important conversation. Like people want to invest in marketing to make money based on their investment in it. And they know it's not easy you you've mentioned a couple of great things here it's important to have the right influencers that resonate with the brand and their offense and i think those are all great points but i've also had a lot of brands that have dabbled a bit. Maybe they haven't put the full strategy behind it correctly. They haven't dug deep into the learnings that are available in the marketplace. Right now. one of them have ended a little bit. That was lot lower than expected. And so you know what are some of the biggest mistakes. Sure you see a lot of success but you also see some failures of just poor execution or a different platform or whatever love to understand it more from your perspective about what's working and then maybe what wasn't working in influencing today i'll kind of try answered both parts of that say the like in terms of number one the mistakes that i've seen kind of lead to poor performance and then i think number two kind of how to measure that are away which i think is a really great question and i think we could spend the whole podcast talking about it. Frankly in terms of number one. I would say that the biggest mistake i see brands make and i see this. With billion dollar company is down to freight person companies is kind of really seeing this as advertising. Because it's not. Like i think that if you think about what this is. You're really engaging with the person on the other side and it's not kind of a programmatic ad placement i think number one. The thing that people don't do that is a mistake is not building a relationship with that person because they're going to have these like nuance feelingly. Exactly what you said about. Not wanting to be authentic valuing with their audience thinks about them you know having the empathy to make sure communicating with all that understanding is so that they're excited about partnering with you genuinely excited about working with the as a brand is really really important. I think number two is kind of making sure you're taking a co creation approach with them in the content. This is especially true with a lot of bigger brands. That have you know millions of dollars of creative budgets. And they're used to kind of like making sure that there are fifty thousand dollar photo shoot has like the brand safe everything in terms of the constant. They're putting together but the day like the point of working with these influencers is you're able to harness their personality and their creativity. That's unique to them. And i think that if you're forcing them to fit in this tightly defined box again bringing up the authenticity word like that's gonna be something that you know people smell from a mile away. So that's kind of a i would say. It was a very typical set of mistakes. I see from brands. That generally don't see the the type of performance that they would like in terms of the our wine and influence marketing in terms that a measure that our way i would say that that's the second reason why people don't see the artist because they they didn't really have would say that good framework for how to think about this in the first place and again one of the reasons we actually started our strategy team wis to kind of set this in place for them from the start. Because i think if you don't even have an understanding of like how you're gonna like few this year the next two years or however long you can't succeed actually so i you know i think every program starts with sales especially when it comes to you know. This is an ecommerce podcast. I think everybody's looking to drive revenue. So if you're doing it right. I think you'll be able to establish a baseline where you're using unique promo codes and affiliate links reach of your influencers. You're making sure to kinda see them with this codes and links and tracking it all kind of more holistically so that you can get you know how many conversions they're driving how many clicks they're driving email sign ups app downloads. Things like that. That are more directly trackable. You'll be able to see things like google analytics where you can see increases in referral sources from social media driving trafficking sales. I think one other trend that we're starting to see in two thousand twenty specifically. Is that a lot of the social. Networks are really serious about pushing their commerce channels like instagram shopping. So we're really excited about our partnership. Facebook being able to drive that for more of our clients so that's like the direct sales portion of the roi picture. And i think that's that's the part that like is really that confusing like most people understand how to see direct sales from their marketing channels. But i would say the lake the thing that is confusing like okay. What else because. Obviously that's only a small portion of the story like influencer marketing. You're getting a lot of great brand awareness and consideration but if you're all you're doing measuring direct sales you're missing out on every person who sees influence or post and then immediately opens their browser and goes direct to the site so beyond sales. I think there's a couple of ways that i encourage brands to look at this number one. you know. If you have a capability. I would think about the over lift. You're seeing across marketing channels. You really depends on like what that means whether it's sales left or something more nuanced back. When i worked in mobile games the way we did this is that we looked at a influence awareness. As a way of increasing the conversion rates are adds anything of the early days of revolved. Did this as well from what i understand. Because users would see three four influence or posts prior to an ad and have media consideration when they're seeing the ad rather than trying to convert them cold and it helps if you're kind of arranging these influencer campaigns into concentrated periods in campaigns. So that kind of creates that feeling amongst the audience that you know how everybody's talking about the thing in addition to giving you easier windowed obviously measure list. Because that's the technical reason and other way i love looking at it. Is you know looking at the roi of the content. You're getting because the end of the day like a time talked about before these influencers are co creating these incredible assets that you can be used in almost any channel first of all. There's the value of the continent. Self which is you talked about. Especially during covid first of all costs a lot less than professional issue. But like you said like when everyone's should stay at home it's been such a big deal for our customers who didn't have access to their photo studios typical production process to have this great extension of their team to make all this content for them. I need to distribute manner. And you know what's really even more interesting is like what's the value to your performance team. You've got like a big paid budget if you're doing a lot of acquisition that way in having ten times the amount of videos images along with the waitlisted social accounts which means kind of doing a takeover of the influencers social caste to run ads through their account to build your performance strategy around and every time we kinda talk through that with the paid social team about building this robust continental and that's gonna help them scale span and reduce. Cpa is is kind of like what's the value of that you know. There's a lot of like really great. And obviously these are broad framework. How to think about it but this kind of two of the blake really high level ways. I typically tell clients. Think about for ecommerce brands. I tend to not advise things like. Hey just look at awareness and views in likes because i mean at the end of the day. It's hard to justify for most companies especially in the ecommerce world. I find a lot of education comes out of were part of the ecommerce fastlane blogs syndicate a lot of content around influencers including your blog. I do subscribe to yours whenever laud of your case studies with shoplifting brands and other pl- too. But i think that's where a lot of learnings for me come from. And i think that's part of why has podcasts. I really want to give back to the ecosystem one. Let people know that you're right. Maybe on a thirty forty minute podcast. We're not gonna learn. All the strategies that are necessary but i think today is just getting the mindset understand that there is technology but also is the human capital of creating and working with creators to get great assets that are leveragable but the portion of it right you can't directly attribute to some vanity metrics. There has to be an overall game plan of will how we executing on this. I just love the idea of he said about just more organic kind of placements through takeovers and then an ad that more professional ad that flows through and when people start talking about it. It's a really good one two punch thing. I think i've seen that before where people talking about it. This that the next thing and then all of a sudden there's a more polished. Add that comes. Just there's that awareness and consideration phase before conversion. So i i love that part and so i would love to hear a case study or a success story. I know you mentioned glossy. I don't know if that's one you want to talk about today. But it'd just be great to inspire people that are listening today just to understand like what is a successful influence or campaign today and if maybe can share why they were successful. Yeah so. I talked to my glossy. Obviously i would say that's a really good example of someone who has taken a community building approach to in kind of doing that really slow-burn to kind of galvanizing customers over time in in creating a word of mouth almost kind of engine around them. I think really good example also is purple mattress. So they're another one of our clients. And i think they've taken a more traditional approach with they're doing is really trying to test invest constantly. So they'll they'll find influencers that fit their criteria in terms of the types of audiences. They're trying to reach the nba content. They're trying to utilize and really just trying to figure out. Like hey like let's let's just constantly keep trying to find new influencers figure out what kind of contents working for them for their audiences test some of that constant and are pay channels. Hey if that works. Let's formalized an agreement for a longer period of time with them. let's get some like white listing access for them and i think that they're they're just very analytically driven company. And so i think if you take an approach like that can really work from that way of measuring. Roi where you can start relatively small that it really snowballs because you start to learn so much about the type of content the type of influence or the type of channel type of message that really resonates with different from different types of influencers. Because like i said there are so many different types of niches in verticals when it comes to the influence or space this space gotten to be very rich and mature like that so being able to really test an invest over the course of a year to find even like five to ten influencers you can build long term partnerships with and potentially locking these like really great agreements with to make almost the face of your advertising in your marketing stack. I would say it's a really good approach to anybody. Thinking about building a larger scale influencer program. Love it so much for sharing. That i just loved being inspired by kind of what brand people like to inspire or be inspired by other brands. That are on a. There's one point seven million brands on shop affi- and there's a lot of people trying to figure out their way in this world. I think that's why have you on today just to get the mindset and the strategy in order and we'll dig into the platform a little further in a moment but let's talk about the future for aspire iq are able to maybe share the northstar guess for the remainder of twenty one and just end of the day. I just wanted to understand more about how the platform is going to continue to kind of and evolve. Just as the mark evolves. Yeah definitely. I think bryce selfishly. I probably talked a lot about the things here that fit really well with what we're trying to obviously enable on the platform. I'm really excited that we just this. Last week unveiled the latest version of our platform. We could elevate their kind of gives a lot of the access and the functionality that we've been talking about around community building around working with non influencers and customers and people like that. And i think that the thing that's been really powerful that we're really excited about is that i think before. Previous versions of our platform really focused on kind of like just implants marketing and kind of had a streamline the transaction between influence ser and like i said now it is re seeing as so much sophistication between the way. Communications are fragmented across email text. Gm or customized data analytics and. How brands have their own kind of secret sauce. Workflow one of the newest features of of the platform is that we've basically launched a complete A functioning crm that's been purposely designed for influence marketing and community building so that brands can just build their own proprietary workflows on top of everything that they're doing on a q. And that entails like a lot of different apps an ecosystem that kind of sits on top of the spirit you platform some of the initial apps are actually pretty specific to shop affi- such as like i was talking about before the promo code Generation and affiliate tracking ability to pay out influence influencers based on affiliates to ship products. Your shop in store straight from our platform. And i think i think you mentioned this earlier in the podcast being able to kind of merged your shop customer did with your social data. You can see who from among your customers ready influential. You can kind of again reach out to them and start building our community so a lot of stuff around. I think you know e commerce but especially the shop. If i experienced that were really targeting for twenty twenty one so it sounds like you're playing really nicely with existing tech stack. I think it sounds like part of it. Because i'm sure some of these different tools. May people are using kind of individually. But you're suggesting that there is some kind of native connections inside the new version of aspire iq to be able to leverage some of these other tools that are available. Yeah i mean to be honest. this is this is a completely independent shadow. But there's coming to called trae that we got embedded with with their. They enable a lot of these types of integration partnerships with other pieces of the marketing stack. So whether it's jato for driving reviews or you know a tentative for driving sms communication things like that. Those are the things that are on our radar in terms of plugging into the other parts of the arctic stack to make sure that we're core functioning piece of community building but also fits with everything else that e commerce brand is working on well. It really enjoyed our conversation today. Md have any takeaways that you'd like to leave their listeners. Yeah i mean. I think you know. Influence a marketing is incredibly powerful. But it can also be especially if you're commerce business a huge waste of money. If done the wrong way so i think you know really thinking about how you can start. Small work incrementally tested invest. And i think not trying to just blow out a budget on something and focusing on vanity. Metrics been really starting small starting with their customers or smaller influencers and seeing what type of content really resonates with people at how that fits within the art existing. Roi framework of how you're measuring performance. Today i think is just really really important for you. Know really any brand any have any size perfect. And how can people learn more about you. And i guess you have. You have an academy and you have lots of stuff. Yes i've seen. Barrack dot com. We're also going to have a landing page. I think with against yes. The the kademi is incredible. Resource that we actually. We actually tried to sign up a lot of our early customers especially if they're novices but honestly even if they're pretty experienced with together effectively an entire set of courses for brands that we've collected not from us actually from a lot our most successful customers in different brands all over the world and how the lessons that they've learned the way they think about each step of the process in building and influence of program. I think that's a really great resource. It's completely free. Don't have to sign up for anything in terms of getting bats. And i think we've got a special link. Www dot aspira. You've come slash ecommerce dash fast lane. I think that's the best one and then like you said The state of the infants marketing report. If you're interested in stats and data and where we're sitting today in terms of the world of influence marketing. I think that's a really great resources as well. I'm sure i have that in the show notes. Letting that's like i said it really is an epic piece of content and with lots of great learnings there and i like how it's all divided up to understand where we were where we're going. How social media fits into than the the proper creator economy and the authenticity of things. We talked today but all summarized correctly in a nice document that shows for marketing. Teams and founders. And so i also will redirect yet your landing page fastlane forward slash spiro. Q i know. He spoke off line before recording today. And maybe if you can share we have a few different offers that those that are near the end of the episode. Now and you see that. Maybe it's time to get involved with influencer marketing and maybe take the platform for a spin because share some of the details on that. Absolutely so i think just your listeners. Where we're gonna be offering a free month out of twelve contract for anybody who signs up using the promotion through your landing page and we also run a small business discount. Where if you're under fifty employees and you're under ten million revenue. We have like a fifty percent discount for all customers in that way because obviously we want to be really supportive shop ecosystem and entrepreneurs everywhere. Love it thank you so much for that. I think once again for those. That are listening today. If you've not done influence or you've felt some pains of it. Not being successful in whatever keep is that you believe are important. We've learned that there are ways of executing correctly. I know that the spike you blog has a a lot of really good case studies but what others have done in a lot of different verticals. Who's a loss of learnings available. So i highly recommend go to aspire iq dot com subscribe to their blog read their case studies and go into their community and learn more through all the work. They've put know honestly like this academy is. I haven't dug into that yet but that's next things on my on my list along with other things i'm working on but i'd go to dig into that too. I believe the education is there. You just gotta pause and take a time to actually do the work. And so i just wanted to thank you for coming on the show. Thanks for putting all this together today once again. It proved to me that both you and the team. You guys are really tight alignment with shop a fine. I really appreciate that. You really want to improve efficiencies and just help people grow revenue and all that and just thanks for sharing your knowledge and giving back today. 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#01 | Retaillessen met Hans Geels, van Dille & Kamille | De RetailTrends Podcast
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Episode 11: Horrible Bosses
"Hey guys sheila in don enjoyed doing a podcast. So they are back today and we are going to talk about the different types of horrible bosses that are commonly seen in workplaces so for fairness sake. We tried to discuss the issues from bullet sides. And try to understand where the problem lies if you are a boss and you can't relate to these types of horrible bosses you're going to list then maybe it's time to self reflect because you probably are one chart now so this is episode eleven. I am with sheila and again and we are going to talk about horrible bosses. Suddenly lost Biden goal is out the night Mainly because a whole ever. Since i graduated Next novel works or dominate allegra. That may home experience about what this not off them. The are harder blow behind. Monique the nursing school. No not all of your horrible or bad. But they're not those them. 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He says pressure now. This is just playing ball pressure is the homeless man who doesn't know where his next meal is coming from pressure is the single mom who is trying to scuffle to pay her rent. We get paid a lot of money. To play a game. Don't get me wrong. There are challenges but to call it pressure is almost an insult to regular people, I get goosebumps. When I read that. Yeah. Well, I heard that, that's really insightful statement on his part. I agree man. Right. He ought to run for office, you know, he grew up in the Oakland area, of course, and he grew up in a tough part of the town and nobody wanted to offer him a scholarship. They finally did at Weaver state. And of course he was drafted in the first round. So I think his perspective on life in general, is one that's predicated by what he had to go through. And I just think it's wonderful to hear from an athlete. So because so many times, people say, wow, they're making an awful lot of money, you know. Yeah, there's pressure on him. That's not pressure. When you have the perspective that he has. Remember that, quote music, thank you. Let's talk about the sharks blues controversy because it's getting a lot of play on the internet and cross the country, you know, it was game number three. It was being played. And it went into overtime and the sharks one the game on a disputed goal. Now, let me just say this, it was a bad call. It was the wrong call, but they had no other choice. Why don't you spell explain to people? Well, actually. Yeah, I this is part of our continuing discussion about the boundaries of replay and what we expect from it, and what we shouldn't have. So this is a good example, came up in hockey where there was what looked I think particularly in slow motion, like a hand pass by one research, players to another player who passed to third player who then scored a goal. And that was the deciding goal. So now the referees when they're asked by the lose quite forcefully has to wasn't that hand past. They said we didn't see it, which is on your standard was possible to be screened, and they said, and we didn't see it and it's not reviewable. And that's according to the rules of hockey as to what is reveal not. We've talked about that in the context of baseball and football and basketball. And here's now we have an example out of hockey. And everybody's all upset about it. And I think we, it brings the question up, and we continue to talk about is what do we really expect to? We expecting perfection of referees. Are we expecting perfection out of replay or neither both? And I think it's an interesting thing to kick around. Anytime it affects the outcome of a game. I think then that should be the determining factor as to whether I don't care if it's a rule or not. I think you have to look at it from that standpoint, would you agree with that ROY generally do, because that's when it becomes the most dramatic, for example that non pass interference. Call in the in the championship NFC championship with with New Orleans. Whereas that affected the outcome of the game. But the problem with hockey is it so continuous. You know, the Dow to play in and it stops and to stop just ongoing, and that, that is technically supposed to call the hand pass at the moment that the nother, the second sharks player touches it because then it becomes a pass, when you don't call it, then then you really have no choice that you can't to stop play after the fact and say, well, let's go look at whether that was a hand path. It just happens in this case that it ended up being a goal if it hadn't become a goal nobody. It'd be talking about this at all. The people on the fans of Saint Louis feel like their snake, bitten, and even giving you a bigger one than affected it. Let's go back to the World Series Saint Louis. Danka during the call at first base. I mean that, that changed. Yep. And that changed the whole World Series. They lost. They lost the next game. And that was the end of the story now, there was no replay then. So there was no way that they could have checked on that today in baseball. That would be challenged replayed and probably reversed. Another one was when the player, I can't remember it was had the no hitter gory, cuddled them safe at first base. Yeah, I mean, we just get this, and I think what we have to do is decide that we're not gonna reach perfection in these systems, and it's going to break both ways, and they were plays for example in shorts came earlier where the sharks thought that a blues player had flipped the puck into the stands and that would have been a two minute penalty on him. And then there was a hit to the head. That wasn't called. So it's he yet decide where you're denominator is when you decide whether all the calls are going fairly or not. I agree with you. But I go back to what I said before, especially since they using replay. Now, if there's anything that affects the integrity of the outcome of the game, it, it, it's a no brainer. Whether it's a ruin on. Yeah. I honestly I think they should have been able to look at that and college right at the rule is they can't I suspect that the general managers meeting, they're going to change that. And next year, we'll be talking about this and tells me different rule. Well, reverberations on the Kentucky Derby is still happening. They have sat down the jockey on the horse that caused the foul or the impediment to the other horses in the field for thirty days at Churchhill downs and I gotta tell you when I thought about it, you're talking about a young horse. Three years old had not raced in a pressure packed situation was on the inside had a sloppy track. You put all of those together, I don't see how you can blame the jockey for what happened. I made if there's an automatic rule then. Okay is automatic role. But if it's a judgment call. I don't I don't think the jockey woefully. Horse get out of his lane and you could see the horse just kind of steered you said over there. And the jockey, brought amac is fast as he could I was surprised to see that suspension and against these appeal. From something. 'cause we invariably at some point each week talk about something philosophical and I was thinking about the fact that you were around team sports when you were the president of the Oakland A's, and of course, you've always been involved with sports in one way or another. I'm just wondering about the mindset of the athlete in a team atmosphere as compared to the mindset of the individual athlete, like we've got the PGA championship underway and everything comes down to the performance of the single athlete. I always find it interesting. What, what have you seen? Jason involved with professional tennis as well. So I saw that the difference in, in the tennis, players who have to go out there individually similar to the other golfers. I don't know that I saw a lot of difference character logically. I think you for example, think about baseball. Yeah. There are nine guys on the field, but really, it's the pitcher and the batter that we're all focusing on, and they're, they're performing in an individual way. If you're shooting, your free throw it kind of, like serving a tennis ball, right? You have nobody's in your way. But you have to just get it through the hoop or into the service parks, I, I think there is a common denominator among the latte fleets that they had this incredible self confidence in their skills, and that combined with a lot of muscle memory from practice. They don't expect to fail. And if they do fail they're surprised. And if they fail to many times, they disappear, but I. There's a, a self confidence in itself. An honest self assessment about their skill level. That is common among all athletes about forty five seconds, which is more important having the strong mind or having the strong body. Well, I don't think you can do it just with a strong mind, but that's wrong body in alone, isn't enough. We've seen plenty of tennis players, for example with hundred and forty mile an hour Sirs. But that didn't get them very far. It's the it's when you get up into the top ten and every comes a mind game that the difference is, is where you see you see saw the McEnroe's, and Jimmy Connors and then today, the fetters and Dow's and so forth. And when when they get into a tie-breaker they're, they're tough they're unbeatable. And it's that's all mind. Really great job, good conversation this week. We'll talk to you next week. Okay. Okay. Thanks. Roy eisenhart with. With us each week. I hope you'll join us as well. 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And he's collecting sports cards since nineteen eighty five I you know, you send me a note, and I found that interesting when I took a look at the link baseball hall of fame is opening a baseball card exhibit at the end of the month. Tell me more about that. Sal. So this exhibit is called shoebox triggers, and it is a permanent exhibit. It's going to open on may twenty fifth so seven hundred square feet of, of space, exploring the history, design and the production of baseball cards, and you're going to have sons of carpet, your hosting a collection of over two hundred thousand cards from the nineteenth century all the way to modern day. What are some of the things you're gonna learn by taking a look at that exhibit? I think besides the history into design. You're also just gonna learn what somebody if you're, you will maybe won't learn so much from this. But you get a chance to see some of the most renowned cards they're saying that they're going to have a teachable six on. It's a Wagner card, which is considered the rarest baseball card, one of rarest baseball cards, and nineteen fifty two tops Nikki medoro rookie card. So they're gonna have some good stuff there. They're also going to give people an opportunity, they had looking interactive part where they can make their own car. Now, I don't know if it's just burchell or in actually gets printed out, and that's pretty cool. So, I think anybody despite their you know, you're, you will get a chance to see some stuff that they don't normally see an end, you know, get to learn more about it worth their Adine hard, we'll probably get more out of it. Tell me a little bit about the evolution of the baseball card because I find it fascinating. So I mean if you want to go back to the lead eighteen hundred. I mean they were included with cigarettes, just eat the cigarettes from breaking when they were shifting. So the wanted to put a stiff piece of cardboard in there. Sometimes they were a coupon on one side or an advertisement. But then they started picturing, famous theater actors or famous athletes, and then what was happening was back cards are becoming really popular with the kids, so they would tell their fathers, you know, get, you know, you have the cards from the cigarette, you know, the picture cards, and sometimes they'd be put with other tobacco products and necessarily just cigarettes, but then over time, what happened was the nation was well, the kids really like these cards. Let's make them accessible for kids, because, you know, eight-year-old moon shouldn't be buying cigarettes. So then overtime they were included dumb, you know, of course, besides his got bigger packs got more elaborate. It and cyber who's considered the father of the modern baseball card. We hear the story where he just sat down with all these box scores and started compiling stats to put on the back of their baseball cards, and that's really what is considered like the modern card when we started having statistics on the back, not just a brief biographies. One of the things you started collecting cards, as I mentioned back in one thousand nine hundred eighty five so I'm going to ask you to crystal ball since you're, you know, so in tune with this area of collectibles. What about another fifteen or twenty years? What might we see in cards? That's a tough question because I mean right now, the trend is were seeing more autographs machine more memorabilia cards. I know a lot of a couple of companies, I should say a lot, but a couple of companies have tried to push it to the next level with some sort of like video, I like a couple years ago upper deck, maybe cards where they actually played like a little clip of the video. They were picked carts, because they had to have watched banter screen and whatever they were trying to make it. They were, you know, trying to make it something not necessarily interactive, but there's something more than just a static picture. I see I see a lot of friend of going more online or excuse me, digital like the tops does get their digital assets and upper deck, does pack crack on so just to fill you in on that, pack, it up for that, you know, you buy card, and then you have to sort card. And then you have a stack of cards and Medan don't want. Most of them with Deepak go online and buy the cards and in their store for you. And then you could sell them or have them shipped to you. And some of them aren't even really like they're like, they're only virtual cards. But if it's you could card, then there's a physical version of the chips to new and that might actually become a bigger thing as people become less enamored with just the, the base cards, you know, the common cards as we call them and more interested in going after that jersey Carter autograph card in that rookie card, the you and I have talked a lot about Athena. -cation and I see PSA the professional sports authentic ater is now offering a baseball bat photo matching surface. Now you have to explain this one to me, so. Couple weeks stacked, we did talk about photo matching where you could send photos a team used item. Kid be matched. What PSA is doing is they're doing that specifically with apps. Now what you do is you mail a beam news baseball bat to them. And then what they do, if they try to find then that, that was used. So you might sale I got this baseball bat, that was used by welcoming example, up there Peter because that's one off the top of my head. But they actually talked about where they try to figure out when the bat was used and the behind the is if new white a spa in wanna games baseball bat, you probably want that item to having many more significance. Right. Than just of on the mill back. Right. So the idea is that if it's if it was using an important game or used from important part of that player's career that it would have a higher who sell out so going back to my example on the authenticated. Pat, to be used in the ninety six real series and it seemed for one hundred fifty five thousand dollars at auction so that the bigger the game that that item is from higher. Potential resale value is one of my all time. Favorite interviews here on sports. Byline is with the with Gordie Howe one gentleman one an outstanding player and why is he putting his personal collection in item signed by him? Why are they being auctioned this month as we know Gordie passed away a couple years ago? So now what his family is doing is, they're selling off to calling it his personal effects so not to sound flip. But it's a lot of like the list and see which items. So, you know, going through the auctions, and there's like a pages of them, and I will admit I didn't go through all of options showing look at so much stuff, but it's stuff that you would say, maybe that's kind of cool, like, okay so, like, for example, they're selling something like a half anymore at the twenty four team when a classic or his press past that he more at the winter classic war like he was gifted a cowboy hat for being a player of a game. When he played for the Houston EROs during the seventy. So, you know, his family doesn't really mean the items anymore. So they're, they're actually sewn charity. And I think you see that a lot where like a player passes on. And like the family says, well, this was bad stuff and you don't need anymore. And, you know, we'll sell it Mesa money, either to make the money or to pass it on to charity, which is what they're doing. And then other people can enjoy it. And I will tell you, there is something that I would like from that there is a nineteen Ninety-four all star game. Jersey now obviously playing the all star game but more and he worked at the event any signed it and really create jersey and signature. And that's pretty cool. So I'm making people chance to buy, you know memorabilia that was originally not on the markets. The I agree with you. He's a special person we only have ninety seconds left, but I see Mets rookie Pete Alonzo has signed an exclusive autograph deal with the fanatics. Tell me a little about the pros and cons of that. So he want his autograph. It seems to get you could just buy one from off from fanatic. So eighty five dollars, we'll get you assigned eleven by fourteen photo two hundred eighty dollars or get you assign next jersey. So, you know, the pros is that they're easy to find the guarantee about ten pick. Like, I don't know, say lack of competition, but the one seller is selling players. Autograph be pretty much controlled the market for what did she sold for? They don't have any competition. I don't know. I was trying to figure this out, and I don't know if this is gonna affect if he can have signed baseball cards in the tach baseball cards, usually, these sort of deals. Don't affect trading card deals. But sometimes they do, especially in hockey in about thirty seconds. Anything else breaking in the collectibles area. Not off the top of my mind. You know, ended the hockey season. I'm waiting for upper decks, the Cup to come out. That's their high end set that easily comes out at the end of the year. Features latter rookie cards of the players from the twenty eighteen nineteen and. Okay. Well, thanks a lot. Tell everybody were how they can contact you at junk dot com or they can hit me up on Twitter at up junk. Okay, thanks a lot south. Have a good week. Enjoy the offs and we'll talk to you next week. Thank you. Again. Salvetti joins us each week here on sports. Byline for segment. We call the collector's corner, and he's been a writer for sports collectors digest Beckett publications in the hockey news and sow has also run a website called puck johnke, which focuses on the hockey collectibles and culture. And he was the hockey collectibles expert on XM radio. And he's collected sports cards since one thousand nine hundred eighty five and that's what we were talking here today about that. We continue on good to have you with us as we move along with you on sports. Byline. Together adds up and so did the savings at Kohl's. With an extra fifteen percent off save on family matching. 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When I looked at this book from the outside, I thought to myself, is this another one of those analytical books, but yet I think you guys take a different slant to things. It was edited by you tell me about the philosophy behind the book. But the bigger thing is the way we framed the book, we frame it in terms of twenty seven chapters, obviously corresponding to the number of outs at a ball game. And when you look at the chapter titles they really give you a sense for narrative, you can ask questions. These are the kind of things that you debate in a bar with your buddy. So it might be something like the Derrick jeeter deserves a gold glove is David Ortiz. A great clutch hitter is Joe Torry worthy of being in the hall of fame. Those kinds of questions are at there's actually one called why didn't Billy bean stuff work in the playoffs since we can only stop on the radio. So that kind of stuff is really provocative, and we feel like by asking questions that anybody would add and then putting sprinkling of numbers in there, you can get to something that's going to be both fun and it's going to be something that's going to advance your knowledge of the game. And one of those chapters was Billy Martin crazy. I love that chapter title. Well, absolutely. And the thing is, you know, I it it's provocative be people remember the time in nineteen seventy two and Billy Martin, or some people remember anyway, when he did some interesting things with his lineup. He pulled named out of the hat and he said. Okay. This is what my lineup is going to be an wasn't shepherd goes into it yet. Billy Martin, but the deeper lesson is done in the lineup. All that important thing constructing a baseball team is the data portent of this guy that second or sixth or fifth or what have you. And when you get into it, and get to some pretty interesting debate June. Does this come down to somebody saying the sky is partly cloudy and somebody's saying it's partly sunny? Deeper than that, Ron. I think there's a real disconnect with some people in the game. There's a lot of people for instance and, you know, being fans be people in front officers who put a lot of emphasis on, let's say runs batted in and what we know about RBI and one of the chapters, the first chapter in the book actually called, what's the matter with RBI talks about guy who get a lot of RBI. And how did he do that? Well, it does help if you're a good player, Albert pool halls is going to get his RBI regardless just because he's such a good hitter. But the thing is, you can be a mediocre to even bad hitter. But if you're in a line in the middle of a lineup you stay healthy back cleanups, and the number one number two number three hitters get on base all the time, you can actually get a lot of RBI, classic example, is Tony Batista, really average to really below average player with the Montreal Expos in a couple of years ago, he batted behind some guys got on baseball time, yet over one hundred RBI and yet he hit about two thirty with an on base percentage of below three hundred. So this was actually a bad player, who still had one hundred RBI so goes to show that some of the numbers can be absolutely misleading. I think you know, as well as I do Jonah that some people in the front offices are turning to numbers or have for a long time. Others are going with their gut feelings others are going with old time baseball philosophy as well has one of those philosophies, or ways, proven itself to be more correct in the other. And despite the fact that we make our living both myself and my co authors at baseball perspective is like the fact that, you know, we make our living, certainly looking at the numbers. There is a chapter in the book called do Ken stats and scouts. Get along and the premise of it is that the best teams they might have a reputation for let's say one side or the other. But the bottom line is they'd be foolish, not to look at both. If you look at the Atlanta Braves team known for their scouting. They have a very good knowledge of the number. If you look at a team like the Boston Red Sox New York Yankees, Oakland aid, their team is known for looking at the numbers quite a bit. They have great scouts. And so you need to have the best of both worlds in order to make it work for you. I'm interested in one of your chapters called y fantasy baseball can make you dumb. Well, it has to, you know that has a lot to do with basically the RPI chapter. It's the same idea where when you look at RBI when you look at save when you look at wins and stolen bases. These are categories that are really highly valued if you play fantasy baseball. But in real life, if you trying to steal a base you need to do it about seventy five percent of the time successfully in order for it to matter today's game because so many people hit home run. If you look at safe saves or just a function of you could bring a guy in, in the ninth inning up three runs against the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Macy's Mt. Not only got to do is get three hours before gives a three run meant to safe. That's not really complicating very much either even wins, which has been really a benchmark a yardstick for starting pitchers throughout the years. If you pitch for a great team that was one hundred games and your mediocre guy, you can still win sixteen seventeen games. Whereas if you're a great, great pitcher for horrible team, you might only win twelve or thirteen so it's interesting, a lot of those fantasy baseball that are actually very misleading when it comes to evaluating players in real life, Jona Carey is joined us. We're talking about his book a book that he. Edited, it's called baseball between the numbers. Why everything you know about the game is wrong. And I see you address the question that most fans liked to talk about. And that is, is Barry Bonds better than Babe Ruth. How did you come down on the question? Well, first of all. By this happened before all this stuff came out recently about, you know, bonds, alleged steroids and so forth. There were certainly rumors but the case wasn't as strong as it is now with that said the way we went about it was interesting. It wasn't as important to compare bond for Ruth, as it was to say, how can we even try to do something like this, and the answer that we came up with was pretty complex, but it broke down to a couple of things. First of all, we had to account for the fact that Ruth only played again and pardon me for saying this, but the best white players in the world, basically. And they were only the best way players in America. Really? I mean he didn't the result integration. There were no players coming from Japan or Latin America or what have you on the other hand, you've got bonds who's playing in era of better nutrition. He's got a ballparks that are differently configured that bats are much easier. Swing you're not swinging these forty ounce that so you have to take all that stuff into account and come up with numbers that are going to work where you can acquaint the guys. And basically, we were able to do that, and what we found is that hitters if you strip away steroids, and forget, all that stuff and just look at the numbers, they're quite comparable. But what swings? Ruth favor is the fact that he was also. And people might forget, a great great, great pitcher before he became a hitter. The other thing is most people have a problem equating the salaries of ball players, and I suppose, that's mainly comes down to what somebody is willing to pay. You one in another chapter in this book. You ask the question is Alex Rodriguez overpaid. What answer did you come up with a very strong and definitive it depends? It depends on what team Alex Rodriguez is the Texas Rangers. His teammates weren't all that good. And they weren't winning many games, and it did make a big difference. So they were seventy win and he got them up to seventy seven seventy eight wins. That doesn't get them to the playoffs that doesn't add to their revenue stream that doesn't do a heck of a lie. So you're in a situation where he's making twenty five billion dollars a year. It's not a good deal for the Rangers. On the other hand, if he's with the Yankees, and there are ninety or ninety two win teen and all of a sudden they can win a hundred games or they're about by having house Regan in the lineup. Now you've become a playoff team naive become a World Series contender. And obviously, they're all these spinoff protected you can. Better advantage of, if you play New York. And if you do in Texas. So the answer, isn't it when he played for the Yankees in two thousand and five he's worth the money with the Rangers in two thousand and two not worth the money. Let me take exception to that. And that is the fact that I happen to know that what he did by coming to the Yankees increase the value of land that was around the ballpark from almost two hundred and fifty million dollars, by the way, closer to a half a billion dollars to be honest with you. And I also know that they were able to raise ticket prices also increase their broadcast rights fees, and everything is that not factored into it then. No, no, no. With the Texas Rangers. Well, I mean, there's an argument to be made for that. But on the other hand, don't forget that, you know, the land. It's, it's, it's questionable, right? Because you've got a lot of things going on. Tom Hicks was the owner of the team, but he's also owner of TV network and bat synergy created a lot of value for the Rangers as well. It's a lot of things happened to same time for the Rangers. They got a new owner who had real estate abilities that he hick had. He had access to the media networks, and he had house Rodriguez. It sort of big soup so you can make an argument that it's tough that if you subtract one element, maybe it doesn't happen. But on the other hand, Hicks had so many bullets in chamber that you could make a case that maybe woulda worked out almost as well. It's not quite as well without Rodriguez. But that is a good argument as well. There's certainly Cates me for the Rangers. Perhaps a better argument is with the Mariners, you know, with the mirrors would he have been worth that kind of money? Maybe not, you know, the bottom line is he's going to be worth more in general with the bulk of it's going to take better advantage of Juna. How easy will it be for the just the average fan kind of Wade? Through this book and come away with, with something that they can utilize or something that they did not know before because I think it is the typically oriented, but it also has some good common sense with it. I think about what would be the thing that you most want argue about over beard. If you have a real passion for Derrick jeeter mutate say this guy phenomenal. And then there's a chapter that wait a minute. That defense is not as good. We think it is. Well that might be worth checking out. That's something that you want to go into it. You have a real passion for looking at managers, Joe Torry. It's just the best thing since bread. And we're thinking, wait a minute. You might not be even be deserving of being in the hall of fame. That's something you want to look into I would go by the chapter titled take out the topics that you can go through. And you know what there are some charts? There are a few graphs. There are some numbers but I think if you even to it, and especially if you kind of go in slowly, there's an introduction. There's a very expensive glossary in the back. It's got to be about ten fifteen pages, it goes into every that you could possibly think of I think that if you take it from that kind of piecemeal approach, you can definitely get at it. And the bottom line is not only you gonna learn more about it, but you're going to look at the game in a whole new way. And hopefully have more fun with it. As well as I do the biggest argument over something like this is who's going to pay for the beer, not the numbers. True. And the answer, of course, is Alex Rodriguez making billion dollars a year. What did you guys find in writing this book, and maybe looking at the numbers in the approaches that you took about the most valuable player on a team? Now. I know that can vary from team to team, but, I mean, did you come up with anything? I mean, is it a front office, like the general manager? And so therefore how he puts the team together is it the manager is is it a stud pitcher who anchors you're you're starting rotation. Did you come up with anything in that area? Well. Typically related to that. But what I would say is the answer is yes. I mean all those things are very important. And I think it's going to vary by team. I think if you're in a situation where let's say you have a team that doesn't have a lot of revenue, and you're dealing with maybe a forty or fifty million dollar payroll, if you can find draft and develop a guy that becomes an absolute superstar, you know, if you're talking about the Oakland A's, and you're talking about it Miguel Tejada, or a Tim Hudson, or someone like that, that kind of guy has immense value because he's gonna come in. He's going to be making virtually no money for the first three years of his career and he's going to be a star player right out of the gate at the same time. If you're the Oakland as Billy bean, is responsible for a lot of their success, but he plays a big role too. So you know it's going to depend a lot of that stuff is important. I would say that, if you can build a strong front office, though. And I would say if you could go beyond the general manager to having strong scouts and good player, development people and really building Turnley, get that good farm system and get young guys in who could be affected for cheap price. That's about as valuable as anything you could possibly do. I think you know, as well as I do that most ownership will tell you give us a new. Ballpark, and we'll be able to put money out there and be competitive that did not happen in Pittsburgh hasn't happened to any degree in Milwaukee as well. And you have a chapter say, why a city shouldn't have built the new ballpark, explain. Well, you're right, that it certainly comes down to a certain teams often don't women they have a new ballpark, but we what we also look like it's going to fold number one. It's not gonna win you ballgames because everybody has a new park at this point. They're very few teams that don't have a new park. And those that don't have rig me and Fenway in these parks that are treasures and people wanna go to. So that's number one. You've got a level playing field and number two, if your taxpayer, I don't care, whatever city you live in. You have to say to yourself, is this, a good deal financially for me to be contributing through my taxes through my money to that new ballpark? You're building a park for a billion dollar owner don't forget to believe baller owner doesn't necessarily need your money. But he knows that he can take advantage of you that you'll go for it for the bottom line is if a city or a ball club or an owner says we're building this park for civic pride, okay? That's fine. Nobody has any problem with that. But they're saying this is going to be great for the economy. It's just flat out not true. If you didn't go to the ballpark, you good in the movie theater, you go to the bowling alley. You would find something else to do with your time. It does not create jobs, and is not a good deal for taxpayers anything in the country. I would also suppose that day it's a two edged sword that can come back and bite you in the backside. And that is if you build them a new facility. Eighty and maybe they come out the first year, maybe even into the second year if you haven't put a winning product on the field fans are going to really resent it, it's going to be a big time backlash. They could hurt you. Even if you were trying to do the right thing. Go one better Ron. I'll say that their honeymoon. Honeymoon seconds shorter shorter. You talked about the first one or two years, it used to be a, you could build a new part. You know, he thinks the Baltimore's and Cleveland that built the new park in the nineties, and they would have some success for five years financially. Even if the team with floor going Cleveland certainly got it going quickly in terms of their performance. But the Orioles had some up, here's some down years, and there were other teams like that, too. Now, you build a new park in Cincinnati or Milwaukee are Pittsburgh, and a year two, they're going to be willing to give it a go. But the drop in -tendance once you get to year three in your four. I mean it's quick Detroit has been the same thing. You don't see a winning product at the end of the day. That is the single most important driver of people coming out to the park and building a winning product, a new ballpark alone mocking to get it done. We only have a minute left. What do you want people to take away from this book? I would say take away the fact that there's that there's something else to be learned that despite the fact that baseball sit around for so long, there's so much more that we can get into. And this could be anything, you know, it could be something as simple as budding people think of bunting as well. You're giving yourself up for the. Good of the team, but ultimately not an effective strategy in a situation where the next night lightening hit a three run home run, because that's the era that we're in. You know, you look at base running, you look at clutch hitting any of these things, they can always be debated, because there's always new information that comes out, I would just say, keep an open mind and really be prepared to absorb the stuff not, because it detests not because you're going to be academically more knowledgeable. But just because it'll really enhance the way you E and appreciate the game. And I think that at the end of the day, you will absolutely have more fun with it in about fifteen seconds was in a heart book the right in the heart book to write. But it was a fun book to rate. We're really happy that came out and all of us have baseball perspectives are very proud of it. Well, congratulations to you, and the other people in baseball prospectus. And we're gonna make an a selection of the month in our sports, byline USA book corner come back and visit with us again. Jona. Thanks very much. Right. I look forward to that Jonah Keri. And again, the name of this book, if you'd like to check it out why everything you know about the game is wrong baseball between the numbers. We'll take a quick break and come back on the other side as we continue across the country and around the world. Good to have you with us here on America's sports talk show. Rebuild or replace transmission. Thirty two hundred dollars and I love brake system, a thousand dollars to replace engine twenty four hundred dollars to this, once you're manufacturers, mardi runs out. It's all on you every last cent. Get protection for covered repairs with a vehicle service contract from Toco Warranty. Unlike other companies with Toko, there's no down payment, and the monthly payments are really affordable. 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Sixty seventy manage the Boston Red Sox to their first American League pennant since nineteen forty six he was elected to the baseball hall of fame by the veterans committee, and he wants to consecutive World Series as the manager of the Oakland A's back in nineteen seventy two and seventy three. And the one thing I like about dick is if you ask him a question, he share the heck is going to give you a direct honest answer, and then right after that, the former Commissioner of major league baseball for almost three years, Fay, Vincent is going to be with us because he has his. Third book out. This is a wonderful book. It's an oral history. It's called. We would've played for nothing baseball stars of the nineteen fifties and sixties talk about the game. They loved now some of the players that Vincent spoke with for the book include Whitey Ford Ralph Bronco, Carl Erskine Duke Snider Bill Regmi, Robin Roberts, Harmon Killebrew, Frank and Brooks Robinson. 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Plus, get Kohl's cash Friday through Sunday at Kohl's select styles. Fifteen percents offer valid make their teeth from nineteen with could save. Now, some exclusions apply. See store or Kohls dot com for details. This is America sports talk show sports. Byline USA. Here's ron. The saying is that good things happen to good, people are willing to wait and that certainly can be said of dick Williams, because he is now a member of the baseball hall of fame inducted, along with four others by the veteran committee and Indyk. How hard was it for you to, to wait to get this call? And they told me if I was voted in, I would receive a call at seven o'clock nighttime in the morning and so be by the phone, and seven o'clock went seven oh, one seven zero two. So I looked at my wife and says, well, with likely missed it again, then the phone rang, we both broken tears. I'll tell you. It's a pinnacle of my profession, so thankful. And I've been on cloud nine cents. Nick, when you take a look at your managing record. I mean you want to World Series with the Oakland A's you also onto the World Series of the San Diego Padres. And the Boston Red Sox when you look back on those teams that you went to the World Series witch with were, they were they diametrically different from each other personality, wise, playing wise. Well, it my first year in the major the manager with Boston, we were a young club, and we had a budding Collier stress ski but basically. Young club. Jim Lomborg was young pitching Savon. He let are pitching staff. The one that it was on the verge of winning if they knew how to win and that was my job there to get them to execute the fundamentals, and they put it all together and they were a young club, a pleasure to be with and an outstanding pitching staff. Let me take you back in nineteen sixty seven with that Boston. Red Sox team. Take me through it a little bit. Tell me about that team. And that very last day in the sixty seven season. Well, we, we were just another club the first half the season as far as ten goes, we weren't any different than we had been in the past. And then at the all star break. We're hanging around the middle of the pack. We went on a ten game winning streak. And when we came back, we had well, they claim who's ten thousand at the airport load him feel awaiting agreed. If we had to go on the other side at tarmac with the plane, and then take a bus across, and we were literally mobbed I in a very nice way. But it was a club that was in fourteen race starting to last week in the season with the White Sox in from on Monday. And they were eliminated on Friday, went down the last two days, we're planning Minnesota, and we have to sweep them and Detroit play a four-game series against the California Angels. They were rained out the first two days. So they had to play back to back double headers, which were very hard to win. And they split the four games we won both against Minnesota and put us in front by game. When you take a look at the personality that Boston Red Sox team where did the leadership come from that team? Well naturally from me. The manager it was a country club and it was a half a game the seller the year before an attend team won the visually. So I think I had something to do with it. And of course, our big guy was calling Schremp, e he carried that club hit over four hundred the last month of the season was the last triple crown winner. And Jim Lomborg who wonder Siam award that year that along with Bickel Connell, our general manager who's executive year I guess that they had made me manager the year. What did you do to turn that organization that team around because you already pointed to the futility the team the year before? But and the year before that. And the and the year before that, I played their smile last two years, sixty three and sixty four knows a big joke. The what was it that you did to make them become winners? We went through every basic fundamental, I could think of that I grew up with and Brooklyn dodger organization. I utilize that we spent two days talking about everything that could happen offense, ably defensively in every area the field including beyond deck. Circle also half the player didn't know what the double line was halfway between person home plate, so I put rule books and everybody's locker midway through the year. I'd go through the clubhouse and Faisal rulebook up there. Just rub my hand on her head deft honored. I know they didn't read anything. So I was pretty tough. I was strict. They finally realized that it was more fun to win and lose, you know, one of the things that I always hear from managers, no matter what the sport might be or coach if he goes into a losing situation is that you have to change the attitude. Now you were. Old school. You were disciplinarian. How did the Red Sox react to that? Well, come on, like it some of them didn't. But when they found out, we were going to do it this way, they either gotta board or we got rid of it wasn't a picnic. It was hard work. I don't think you can get anything for nothing. You have to work at it. And that's the way we were when I joined at Brooklyn organization, branch Rickey baseball. We had twenty nine form clubs and I'll tell you what, there were twenty nine guys ready to take your particular spot if you didn't produce and they certainly made changes, certainly I worked in Boston and television back there. And I was always fearful of one thing, dick, that, if I had missed announced that Carl you strips. He's batting average was three twenty eight when a mighty three twenty nine I was going to hear from every little old lady up until up to Maine, the atmosphere playing baseball back there. Can you describe it? Well, we gave that area are sixty seven club title us all time now. It's called Red Sox nation, and they just happened to want perfection. The fans in New England or probably the smartest sports fans in the United States in all sports, and they certainly are in baseball. So you, they knew when you're producing new one you're slacking off, so that made my job. A lot easier to. I don't know if the writers knew it, but the people certainly did. Why did it come to an end in Boston Ricky? Yawkey didn't like me. And why would I said it was too tough on the players? I believe he left town, had dick O'Connell. Tell me I was gone. So in other words, the players probably complained Yawkey and, and so therefore, he took it out on, you know, I don't know about that. All I know is everyone the players castaway World Series check, that you dick, when you take a look around the baseball, and you'd see managers today and what they're looking for in a winning situation. What was it that you looked for what type of organization, did you want to be a part of I wanted a club that connects acute knew the fundamental pulled together as a team and every twenty twenty-five guys were utilized at one point or another. You hear a lot of things. Well, I didn't know what my role was that's a bunch of baloney. Good on new uniform be ready to play when the manager call on its altogether different because the players are making millions of dollars and you have to go through their agent. And the agent goes to the players association. The player sociation goes to general manager who goes to the owner. So it's. It's, it's no picnic for manager right now. Is it harder to manage not from personnel standpoint of just from an execution standpoint, say today for the things that you listed because you were not afraid to tell somebody in the lineup to sacrifice and at that for the good of the team? And that's not something managers feel may be comfortable doing today. I don't know how they do it today. I know if I were managing from what I've seen off and on. I wouldn't last week at blow my car, but these guys they're bigger they're stronger have better equipment better from certainly richer. You can't what we would do back, then if you had to find a person they'd laugh at you now, I know the Terry Francona course, manager of the Boston Red Sox once said he scared me. And I'll bet he didn't mind that at all. Is intimidation part was intimidation part of your game. No execution hustle with my game. And what about the evaluation? What did you look for in putting twenty five man roster together? Well, first of all, spring training I had a no what a player with capable of doing and what he wasn't capable of doing. I certainly wasn't going to ask the guy hit behind the runner up on the hit, and run, if he couldn't do it percentage wise. So I was my job in my coaching job to know what the possibilities of one of our players in what they could do in couldn't do if a guy couldn't hit to the right side, or he couldn't, but in a situation that was imperative for us to get a runner and winner ballgame. Then there was somebody else up there at home plate shrimp, ski I interviewed him one time here in the studio, and I asked him about what it was like to play in the shadow of Ted Williams, and he said he was never really ever comfortable with that. Can you talk a little bit? About him as a ball player. Well, I could talk to I've never watched a player have a year like he had in all phases of the game running throwing hitting hitting with power and consistent hitting as he did in one thousand nine hundred sixty seventy bucks player. I ever saw the ball peel field for a full year that, you know, that I was with, and I saw some good ones that Brooklyn with peewee and Duke and Campion Robbie all of guys. But Carl had better than anybody. Let me tell you the story about William T walked out of my camp. The first year I had job. He showed up for our World Series though. I, I understand why did he walk out? Because he was upset with a couple of things I had a one year contract. So if I was going down going down my way, and I knew the country club because my last two years, I played on it. He wanted to talk to the pictures all the time about the Fleischer I had other he was supposed to help with the hitting Ianna great hitting coach Bobby door, but he was always talking to the pictures. I had minutes that I had on a schedule that this was done this way, this was done over here and all that. And I had to keep at kezar going also to get the pictures off the feel from hanging around in little groups in the app, feel, I put a volleyball court. Don left field. Foul line way over by the visiting clubhouse. And he thought that was the big joke, pictures loved to pick up a good flinton. They handle tournaments and everything. And my aunt feel wasn't cluttered. So may out feelers could get to work on getting a jump on a ball. Etc. But the third day I think his locker was cleaned out and not a word was said that he was going anything. So we, we still got along and maintain what we do now, a member of the hall of fame manager dick Williams joined us. And you he moved to the west and of course, won two World Series with the Oakland A's. We'll talk to him about that, as we continue with more of you and sports. Byline. It has been said that everyone has a book in them, but you have the time or the ability to write your book, maybe you picked up some skills, or headlight experience, that you want to pass on in the form of a book to help others, maybe you wanna leave and autobiography for your family or maybe you built a successful business, and you want to share your story at Dorrance publishing company. 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Well, I had one year as a coach under dean mock at Montreal in that the new ball club. They put up there and I learned so darn much in that one year coaching third for mock, and I had already been in a World Series and fourteen hadn't, but his style bandaging and what, what to do. I learn more there than anybody could imagine it. It certainly was a big big help to me if they have managers pledge in gene mock would Iran, that clinic Oakland young club that finished second a couple years behind Minnesota in the American League West when they split up in a couple of division, it had great. Yeah. Young talent. And it was just a question of them exercising. Properly, the fundamentals and doing the little things that needed to be done. My pitch and sampling's. Great would catfish hunter vita blue Chuck Dobson that first year Rollie fingers. Couldn't make it as a starter. So he stuck them into bullpen, and that's another story there. He said that if it hadn't have been for you that he wouldn't be in the hall of fame right now. What was his struggle as the starter? Got for him to start the more nervously gap and he used it only lasted inning. Maybe two. So we worked out of the bullpen was Bill posed Dell are picking coats and made the suggestion. Then we had burnt ho site running our bullpen and we kept a close tab on him. And we brought him in and meaningless situations start off with, and he kept getting out. And after a while we'd put them in a little tougher situation. He did well then finally put him in, he closed out a ballgame and was from that point on that he became sexual vixen test as he was, but they use we used our relievers different, then I had rally pits three innings, and then the next day pits, two thirds of an inning next day. Three innings again. But one time he went eight aiming for me and relief. And we wanted the nineteenth you didn't get into, but he was ready to go the next day. Now, they're, they're dude opponent, any two-thirds of ending are one maximum. We'll talk a little bit more about the players on that team because it was an interesting personality team. And let's talk about the, the owner of that team Charlie Finley. You lasted longer than anybody else. I believe it was three seasons with the Oakland A's as the manager. What was he really like I mean you had to deal with him? And I came down to the bay area when he was owning the team and I saw some things as well, but I like to get your perspective on it. Well. In writing is insurance. Right. We're out in Oakland. Our clubhouse man Frank Finn. Check had a weight each day to get a call from him to find out what color uniform, we're wearing a day. We had nine different possibilities. So he had to have everything ready to go and, and get them in the lockers, we knew we were gonna wear all white on, on Sunday. But sometimes Charlie have a women he'd want this, or that most of my conversations with them unless we got into Kogyo, or maybe no Ocoee, when he come to our games by phone, and I we certainly talked a lot and he's, he's lot smarter that a lot of people gave him credit for. He's the one that came up with the idea, whether you like it or not of the designated hitter. We use the aren't baseball. We use the white shoes. They used to laugh at our uniforms. Now you have quite a few clubs traditional Yankee and cub uniforms in dodger uniform that have. A lot of color. We never had a uniform of benefit Houston ballclub, had that one year our shorts like they had with the White Sox. But Lee had he was an innovator. He did a lot of peculiar things. They say, but he his idol was Bill vac. So, that'll give you an idea of the ideas, he used to come up with. He was. All right. He said, when right before he got out of baseball, and he got out because he could see that the salaries, we're going to escalate and everything. He says that being the year they should make every player a free agent and start from scratch the next year. And it had a lot of merit to it. Did he mental a lot because there were the reports of him calling down to the dugout during the course of a game. Was he a meddler? It'd be a long, walk from Tacoma dope. Learn if he did that. I'm in about calling he called on the phone a few times when Hank Bauer was there. Hank finally re the phone off the wall. No. The phone would be ringing in my office after the game. If you one fixed to hit say, well, if you did this in that any win eight to two, but that was because of money, more was our announcer. He had a what's line right into his office, and he put on the squawk box, and he heard every pits that were thrown and money, more comment Slow Money, we used to call him the spy in the sky. Also, he was a pretty good evaluator of talent, or he would pick everybody else's mind. Would he not? How did he put together that, that all that group of talent on that team when he took over the club though is a built in counting staff that was probably the best in baseball. And they, they had all these kids corral. He made a trip, John owed them bloom, lower house, and that's the video owner. He got the Yankees said he stayed with Odem house. That was correcting stated the hotel, but he wondered everybody have a nickname. They had blue moon. He gave hunter, Kathy's hunter his nickname, he wanted vita blue change. His name is Pat middle name with you didn't have he wanted to call him. True. Why did they go for that because he was a junior, what you change your name and? Charlie just had different ideas, he did a lot of good things to the careless player. Tell you that and he, he wasn't a bad person. I don't think I did learn I could at that time. And I've forgotten since the difference between a male lobster in a female, and that difference is I don't know now. You know, you had Reggie Jackson. You had all those players and reportedly that they would be, you know, scuffle in the in the clubhouse. But when they went across the line, they played baseball as well as anybody one. What's the fact and what's the myth about the, the personality of the team, and what they did, and didn't do players are living together for approximately eight months at means getting in the playoffs and World Series. A little friction one place or another. Whether you're a first place or last place. We were first place club. We had skirmishes we had guys that but a lot of clubs. I remember Panella dibbled going at it not much with set about that. But we, we had players that got an argument you live together for eight months. You're going to have some differences. If you've never been married, you'll know that we're those as teams the teams that dick Williams would really like because of how hard they played the way they played the game dick. Well, they had a learn how to do that because they were perennial second-place club. The previous few years to Minnesota. They found out. It was more fun again, winning now than being an also ran, they played the hearts out for me. Reggie Jackson was like a son to me. And he played hard for me. I gotta lot bum wraps. Maybe after he left our ball club. But. He was very aggressive. Sal Bando was our captain and quiet, but forceful, and they knew what they had to do in what took the win in about the minute ten seconds. How about San Diego, what was that experience? Like for you. All big. I had I had a gambling in the hallway in Guth, we had got it and nettle joined our ball ballclub in eighty four. And if it wasn't for those two guys stay in around the club out after game talking to the young kids talking baseball having a beer to it. It would've never happened and goose nettled were just outstanding. We had Templeton who played on bad lays, and just played his heart out for we had Garvey at first base. We add some veterans really help these youngsters. What did you find is the difference between east coast and west coast baseball? I'm talking about Boston compared to say the as in San Diego, our time limit. Dick, when you think back on your long legacy and the number of years that you spent in baseball managing as well as playing in everything will. What do you think that legacy of dick Williams is well? It must be pretty good. Because got me in the hall of fame was hoping to get in earlier, but I finally made it and one of nineteen managers going in with a, a manager that managing Saint Louis cardinals when I was a kid, too young to belong to the novel gang. So it use my older brothers pass and got an autograph. One day. Billy southward. Well, I wanna thank you very much for joining us in talking about your fine career you deserve to be in the hall of fame. It was always fun to be around your your players in your team. And you guys no matter, whether it was in Boston San Diego, or with the Oakland A's certainly outstanding. Thanks a lot. Congratulations. Dick. Ron, thank you and my best all our troops overseas. Dick Williams with us in you managed one years in the major leagues in nineteen sixty seven managed the Boston Red Sox to the first American League pennant one World Series with the as and also successful with San Diego. We continue on sports byline. Having fun together adds up. And so did saving at Kohl's with an extra fifteen percents, save on family fund matching graphic teen, just seven sixty four at eight forty nine hit the beach with women's flipflops, and new beach towels. 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It gives you unbeatable engine protect. The proof is in the Pennzoil based on seat with where test using essay e w thirty one hundred dollars travel reward credit with a full synthetic oil change to October thirty first twenty nineteen turns black is a Pennzoil dot com slash travel on. This is America's sports talk show sports. Byline USA. Here's ron. Former baseball Commissioner Fay, Vincent joining us here on sports by line. Let's talk a little bit about this new book that you have out. We would have played for nothing. But let's go back and talk about the one that preceded it the only game in town. Tell everybody about that one. Because even I know that Larry Ritter that a wonderful job in the sixties of going around and talking to players with a tape recorder players who played at the beginning of the twentieth, century. And he did a book called the glory of their time their times. And I was as by some tapes, I heard of these old guys talking about playing in that in that era. Smoky Joe wood and a lot of other wonderful players. And I decided that I would do it for people who played in the thirties and forties. I was very worried that Larry Doby and others. We're going to die. I knew Larry. Well, first black and the American League he had cancer. And so I started a tax exempt foundation with a great friend of mine. A Wall Street banker named Herbert Allen who helped me with the money. I put up some money, we, we agreed. We donate everything that came out of these books to the hall of fame other than the book publishers take a course and I've done about forty five of these interviews. Lots of all Negra late players buck O'Neil and Dobie and, and all sorts of people who played in that area. Joe black. And then I did some of the oldest players who are still alive, elder knocker was in ninety five Bob feller Dominic DiMaggio who's ninety Tommy Henrich, who's ninety five or so. And the first book was their stories. It's just their oral history. What they said about baseball the first question I ask is who got you went dow-, who gave here? I ball and glove. When did you start playing baseball and they go on its new book, the first book, did well sold about thirty thousand copies, the hall of fame guy, a nice, check Simon, and Schuster published it about two years ago? Now we have another one out, and this one starts with row. Branka Carlos can Duke Snider Whitey Ford, Bill rig ni Robin Roberts Harmon. Killebrew. Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson and Billy Williams and these many of them, all of famers, but they talk about why they played how they got started who helped them the role of their mother and father. It's, it's great stuff. And of course they tell stories and by your mighty. My predecessor used to say baseball is all it's all about stories. And I think this will validates that when you think about the players that you talk about here. What's the commonality that you've found faith that they all have? But they all had enormous talent. They all love the game, and it's the quote about we would've played for nothing comes from books Robinson. And I think it is true. I suspect that they were delighted they didn't have to play for nothing. They made a good living, though. None of the made anything. Right. What players today make I mean in the in their day, one hundred thousand dollars was a lot of money and the other thing that I think, came through none of them ever doubted from minute that he would be a big leader in, you know, I was a lousy ballplayer. And so when I played always worried that I wouldn't get ahead or I wouldn't play with these guys, the matter how much did you ask them? Did you ever have any doubt that you'd be big league or? No. I mean they knew they could hit. They were good. They always fade with kids. Five years older. I mean Frank Robinson. When he was fourteen was playing American Legion ball with everybody was eighteen. And he could hit same what books Robinson. He just was good. They knew it and they quickly realized that they could play their passion for the game were you able to discern from talking to them about any commonality in that as well as to where it came from and why they had that passion. No. You don't don't be in this in that group as they came along. Baseball was still preeminence sport running. That's chain, sadly, certainly in the black community, and I think everywhere, partly because it's easier to get an education playing basketball football. I think a lot of kids grow up playing those sports. Baseball's more difficult sport. But in the American, the United States that they grew up in don't forget they grew up in the thirties and forties after the war. Many of them, many of them are my age or a little bit older. Baseball was the game. Everybody played. It was it was just expected. You play baseball now. You might play basketball. Robin Roberts went into Michigan state on a basketball scholarship, but went out for baseball and found that. He was a heck of a pitcher. But baseball was that the common theme was, of course we play baseball. Everybody played baseball these players in that particular time, the fifties and sixties, and maybe it extends a little bit into the seventies, now the Messerschmitt decision came along in the seventies as well. But was that the last kind of era of innocence when it came to baseball, you think they well? These guys knew that there were problems. They talk some of them talked about efforts to get union pension, put together. Robin Roberts was very instrumental in hiring Marvin. Miller who by the union is you now you know, I don't think it's possible to limited. They were sophisticated people they had no rights contractually, but that doesn't mean they didn't notice and they, they realized that they were boxed in. They couldn't bargain the way the rest of the economy could for, for raises. They, they didn't have the ability to quit, and go to work for the place across town. They were stuck, so they love the game. And of course, the game in, in their era and the there were there wasn't so much artificial turf until the end of the period. Still playing doubleheaders. I mean Branka nurse can talk about pitching in Brooklyn in the late forties and fifties. It's a different world. And you know to me it was also the coming to baseball blacks. I mean Frank talks about being traded from Cincinnati to Baltimore and I think his great suspicion was that he was considered to be a blind player who cause trouble. Yeah. I think that is one of the reasons why I've always said he had a little bit of a chip on his shoulder. Fay, Vincent is with us. The former Commissioner a baseball he has another book out. It's an oral history it's called. We would have played for nothing eleven players during the fifties and the sixties I remember talking to Willie Mays down at spring training one time Fei, and we were around the batting cage and I was asking him about the game today as compared to when he played in. He sent one of the things that I lament, he said, was the fact that players don't tell stories like they used to. Why do you think that happened? Going on the in the old days. They traveled together. They didn't have cell phones. They didn't have agents. They didn't have the complexities of life that these guys have. Sometimes they were still traveling on trains, and I think they were closer and I think culturally, you know, many of them were still rural kids from farmland. Don't forget baseball, integrated very slowly so that the black players who came started with. They'll be in Robinson forty seven but member Puxi green didn't get to Boston 'til fifty nine and Elston Howard to New York until fifty five so the American League really integrated very slowly. So even in the fifties, very heavily white except for pockets Brooklyn in the in the nationally. I remember stand used he'll said to me after forty six when the black guys came to book, when we knew then we white team in say Louis, southern city would never again be competitive, we couldn't compete without Robinson nukem and Campanella those guys. Well, if newsy afar that everybody saw, so it was a it was an entirely different world. And of course they talk baseball, and they told stories because. That's really all they had to do more. Some of your favorite stories that they told you for this book. Oh, yeah. Whitey Ford was wonderful. I asked him about the COPA. Cabana famous incident was always my suspicion that then Hank Bauer who is a very decorated World War. Two guy had been the one who hit there was a guy harassing the player, then all of a sudden, he ended up on the floor and highly thought it was Bauer and. In white, he made it clear that it was a bouncer in the Kobe all got arrested and got put on triumph. They had a hearing over whether they had misbehaved, and I mean, it was wonderful to hear what really happened from Whitey Ford Robinson talking about coming to Baltimore in how he and Brooks Robinson, one white one by at a meeting at their house, when the team was doing poorly, and they got people to get out at either Frank or Brooks house and the two of them decided they would take this team on and lead it and together they did. They brought the two raises together, you know those that was a great team. And the two of them, obviously got along like each other. And I thought that was a very powerful example of how the players can take in. Troll and and out chemistry really matters. I you know, I think the stories in this book, a very special because you get insights into not only these players, but somebody. Great legends. Lubar debt talks about. He and Jackie Robinson having problems. Robinson thought he had made some sort of racial, in so to him for debts that he didn't Robinson, bonded and tried to run over debt for debt for Robinson. And then toward the end the bird, that's time he got Robinson alone in a clubhouse an estimate. He could talk to him and explain to them that he had never done anything. The Jackie Friday, did he apologized. Jackie misunderstood. Robinson set a understand. I feel bad that I tried to run over you. When I hit it the ball and they made up and, and cleared the air, and it was really quite a nice story about two guys who had respect for each other. When we moved fifty years from now on maybe the oral history of baseball is talked about of this particular era. What do you think they might say about it? Well, I wanted them to be able to get a look into what baseball was like at a time before the union became so strong before life became so complicated as baseball was integrating at football and basketball coming along. You know, I think is an interesting and cute example, I am trying to get sandy Colfax to do this interview with me. I'm going to have lunch with him. Next Monday lives in the town. I live in Florida. And I've asked him to do this before. And I said, sandy, this is for fans fifty years from now and you won't believe what he says. Oh, he's a gentleman, and I really believe you sincere. I said, sandy people fifty years from now going to want to hear what you had to say about the game and how you played it and how you view things. And he said, you know, say and it's very nice. It'd be a buddy said fifty years from now. Nobody will remember who I am. And I think he believes it I pointed out to him that he played baseball about fifty years ago and people seem still interested. So, I think I have logic on my side. I don't think I have a chance of getting him to do the interview in about thirty seconds. He happy with the way this book came out thing, I'm very happy. I think this one has more appeal because more people will remember these players will have seen them. I mean, they're very few people around who saw Dominic DiMaggio and Johnny pesky and once fine play there many more people who will have remembered, Frank Robinson, and, and even Whitey four they, you know, it's a twenty thirty year difference, I wanna thank you as always. I so enjoy our conversations over the years that we've had a chance to talk. I want to urge everybody to check out this new book. We would've played for nothing. By the way, the proceeds, go to the hall of fame on this book, just like the previous oral history book, did good health to you, Commissioner and plaque. Very nice. I I'm hoping could talk against take care Fe by Vincent on with us in you. And of course, the Commissioner of baseball on you hear him talk about the great heirs of baseball and you only wish we could recapture that somewhat. We continue with more view. An America's sports talk show. Reveal to replace transmission. Thirty two hundred dollars brake system, a thousand dollars to replace engine twenty four hundred dollars through this once you're manufacturer's warranty runs out. It's all on you every last cent. Get protection for covered repairs with a vehicle service contract from Toco Warranty. Unlike other companies, with Toco there's no down payment and the monthly payments are really affordable. Not sure how long you're keeping your car at Toko you can pay as you go. 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We have been in Afghanistan, and all of these trips. I've had an opportunity to take some of my friends people like Brian Billick, Mike Nolan airing Davis, Randy cross Spencer, Tillman with me on the trips and just to see the faces of our servicemen and servicewomen as we get a chance to interact with them, and to go over there and say simply thank you for what you've done for us, and other people, it's always interesting because they come up to us and say, thank you for coming there to say, thank you to them, and I can simply tell you that each trip has been enhancing life enhancing for me. And the people that have gone with me on the trips have said that either been life enhancing or life changing. For them. And I will continue to do that with sports byline as we get it out on the road. So again, I want to send my very best out to our servicemen and servicewomen in the studio with this is Bip Roberts, the former major league baseball player. He played twelve seasons in the majors. Seven of those twelve played with the Padres also played with the reds, the royals Cleveland and Detroit and matter of fact when he was actively, he played in the World Series with them in ninety seven and had a pretty darn good World Series. So we'll talk about what he's doing today, which is very important as well, coaching, and working with kids about his fine career. So good to have you with us as we get ready to crank it up here on sports. Byline. Right to find savings, where you can cause you work too hard for your money, not to. We're here to help with everyday savings and mortaring memorial. Now get a chart broil four Verner advantage series for one hundred sixty nine dollars and make refreshing changes indoors and out with fifteen dollars off gallon cans at forty five dollars five gallon pails, you'll most gift card rebate when you buy interior and exterior painting state, do it right for less start with Lowe's. Offers valid through twenty nights. He's he tells you. Aaron's. 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And while he was in Cleveland played in the World Series in nineteen ninety seven I thought about you the other day when I saw another announcement by another baseball player and I'm just wondering that transition from being a pro athlete doing something that you've done since you were a kid and then all of a sudden it coming to an abrupt end. What is that? Like. Well, tell you, it's like you know, if you f idiot, and you walk out of the water and now you can walk and you go. How did that happen just transformation? It just happens in my case eighteen years go from ballplayer to a real human. I think when you had when you when I, I made that transition I really know what to do. It was like, now I'm in this new world and people have been doing things with twenty and thirty years, and now I've shown up, what do I do think I had a lot of questions in my head that I needed to answer and only give me that answer. So here I am now ten years into my retirement, and I finally figured out what it is. I like to do and so, you know, I go from there you find it hard to go back into the real world. And what I mean by that is that there's a discipline in sports, in, which people are doing a lot for you, you know where you're going to be in the spring. You know what you're going to be doing during the summer and into the fall. And then all of a sudden wanted abroad. Fli ends. The real world is really different from any sports world. Well, yeah, you're right. The real world is different. But my last year with the as I decided that, you know, I wanted to put to use the little knowledge I had well, my first year when I was drafted back in ninety two nineteen eighty two I didn't go to right to the major leagues right into minor leagues. I wanna go to college now wanted to study broadcasting television and film. And so that's what mile to go. What have been had not played baseball. So once I was given a chance to play baseball, and I had to career and and everything twelve eighteen years in pro ball. When I got out, I went right back to school, right? Into television and film DVD dabble valley college out in pleasant hill. And I wanted to get back into a television film, but I wanted to get my degree well as I started things happen fan where mom got sick, and I had to come back out of school. But it was something that I wanted to do. So I think that's where the fire was lit to say, hey, you know, what have a Taliban that? And I think I'll try it that way. Joe Morgan once said to me that he started preparing for retirement. The first day started playing you seem to have done the same thing. Are you the exception rather than the rule in pro baseball pro sports? I think so. I think a lot of guys all of a sudden a career is over, and they really don't know what they wanna do. They don't know what they like they really don't know who they are. And I think you know, my last year had chance to sit on a bench with the as and contemplate what is bit where I was going to do after this year. If my career is over after this year. Well, unfortunately, it was over after that year, but at artists myself up to get into broadcasting by doing a couple of things with FOX television work in doing some cow, Berkeley games doing some Sacramento river cats games, just pretty much trying to get a fill for dislike in this business, but also was life is like after baseball from an ego standpoint. I mean baseball and sports lends itself to building a pretty big ego. And you've got to have one in order to be, you know, decent when it comes to professional sports is a kind of a shattering experience to go into retirement ego wise. Well, not really for you. I'm pretty sure a lot of guys who've had everything had to them for their entire career. You know, people just waiting on 'em hand and foot actually, give them a Sasha's Watson in share. Wait in a plane a game. Whatever it might be that could build up an ego. But I think that, you know, for myself, personally, I just always realize where I came from, you know, come from humble beginnings, and I think once, you know, where you come from, you know where you're going. And so I just try to keep those that humble filling. Yeah. When I played I played with a little Gretchen an alleged so so to speak. But also never lost to I really was, and I think my family kept me grounded, I think my friends kept me grounded and to this day, they say still the same guy is it fair to say VIP that athletes, pro athletes are commodity more than anything else. I was talking to Jason Peter the American out of the university of Nebraska, who said that while he was the star Nebraska, and even went to the NFL everybody was there saying, you know when you get finished come. See me on a job for you. He said, but with the troubles that I had with drugs and everything. It was all over with there wasn't anybody there. I mean, are they looked upon his commodities? What have you done for me, lately, being the cliche that appears and applies to the athlete? Well out of times, you're right. They are commodities, but what they have to understand that while you're playing, that's when you have to take advantage of everything that's around you. Because once you're done, you're done. No one was talk to you. You no longer in a starting lineup anywhere unite in jersey. You know, really represent the guys that are plan anymore. So when you're playing you have to start to think about that and say, you know what, what am I going to after I'm done if I want to do anything, you know some guy's a this so well off? Now they don't have to do anything. But some guys wanna work because that's what they do. And so you have to think about it, midway, and your career. Hey, what do I want to do at the end so that you don't get caught at the end San? Well, you know what? I really don't know what to do. And I think as a commodity you always hot. When you had a uniform on soon as you take it off. Your no longer commodity can major league baseball. Do Moore's far as helping the. And that transitional period going into retirement leaving the game. I think there's a couple of things that they can do one is to maybe hire a firm that when guys ready to get out. Maybe his last two years, you start to have dialogue with the guy and say, you know what in one or two years. You could be out of baseball. What do you want to go from there? And if you can start to talk to a guy before he gets out. It makes it easier for him to make that transition as to well you know, now yacht the game what are you going to do? Well, you know, that's so abrupt at you really don't have time to think, but if you give yourself some time, you know, asleep on think about it, you use it can come up with a second career. And I think that's what happens with most professional players. They're good enough to have a career outside of baseball. They just don't know what it is. But, you know what's interesting, the only thing they really know to do generally speaking is to play baseball. And that's not something you find out. I mean, unless the company has a softball team and they need a ringer. But I'm just wondering if you're out of the game by the time you're thirty four thirty five that's relatively young. How do you go about starting again? And I've had a lot of players. Tell me that it's hard to go down to the bottom of the rung and have to prove yourself, again in a field that you have, you know, no inclination to where you, absolutely right? You know, I look at it now and I see a lot of my friends who are, you know, he'd been in business for twenty and thirty years, and this transcendent now that they're experts in what they do. And now get out the game and I'm going, what do I do? Now, want to compete in this workforce. In now, you go to fill out an application, you have no experience behind you. And now you look at, but he's going well you know what you a lot further ahead than I am right now because, you know, exactly who you are, and what you wanna do. I have to figure it out now. So, you know, when you get necessarily figure well I'll do the best. I can't right now. It doesn't matter if I go to the bottom of worked my way, from the bottom before and get to the top. But you have to have an idea of what it is. You wanna do. You don't just go and say, you know what? I'll start at the bottom anywhere you have to have an idea what your talent is, you know, for myself, you know, reading and writing, it's always been my strength, when it comes to math, you know, I'm not that good at Maso. Why would I do something like an engineer or a doctor some this something I couldn't do? So I'd have to get into broadcast because I can use worse and talk to people in create a story. So that's what my strength would be. Let me ask you about another aspect of retirement, obviously, when you're playing baseball, you're gone from February to the end of September and maybe even beyond because of the play offs. And that means that the woman at home has to take care of the kids. You're an absent father almost in a sense you check in your home for five six seven days. And then you're off again that transition from being a pro athlete and playing the game and then being a fulltime father and husband. How, how hard is that was it for you or how hard is it for generally speaking, most pro athletes? Well, I would think it's tough with certain athletes because they used to be on away from home. That's what they lifted. Do. So when seasons over they start crazy home more than a week. You know they're ready to go back. Let's go on a road trip. Whatever. Then there's some guys say you know what the season's over is all about family time. I'm not gonna pick up a ball talk about the game until January when his close to spring training. You have some guys that, that's all they're going to do is play ball doesn't matter. So you have three different guys three different categories that make up what we consider a baseball player. And I think I was a part of all three, you know, and like you say when you when you absent a lot, I think it's one of those things where the kids say, you know, if they have a chance to play pro ball or go to college, they rather go to college because they know that the game sort of took their father way from them and kind of broke the family up a little bit, and their times when they needed, Dan. He wasn't there. So I think that's one of one of the reasons why a lot of kids don't follow their father's footsteps in baseball because they know the pitfalls, we only have a minute, before we have to break here. But. I know there's a high incidence of divorce in professional sports in baseball better than fifty percent. And I guess it might be because you're living the high life. You're in the spotlight. You got money and, and everything that goes along with it. How hard is it for both spouses to be able to adjust to that retirement aspect? Well, I think it's most difficult on the wife at home because husband's gone. And of course you don't know what the husbands out doing. He could do anything, but I think it takes a strong woman to, to be a part of a major league baseball players life because there's gonna be a lot of ups and downs of a lot of failures a lot of insinuations a lot of reports, but one thing, the, the wife is going to have to really be strong and have communication with the player or the husband, because they're gonna be things that said that may not be true, but could be hurtful and things vice versa. That may be true that hurtful that maybe you can get over. Maybe you can't. 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But bit by I was talking in the open line, our about the media, and whether they should be reporting on the private lives of athletes, because, you know, a rod with the problems he's had athletes, Roger Clemens that sort of situation athletes. Get picked up for DWI or for drugs things that happen off the field off the court you as a former baseball player. How did you and your, your other baseball fellow baseball players feel about the media looking at the personalized reporting on the personal lives of athletes? Well, I, I think we start talking about an athlete's personal life, you crossing the line because he's not there to talk to you about his personal life or to put his personal life, under a microscope. He's to play the sport in which he's hired to play and get results. And if you don't get the results. Then you can start to talk about a player's farce results. Is it good enough to play on his team? Should he be trade us should he be released but we start talking about, you know, crossing the line. And this guy's gonna get divorced. Or this guy I can understand you talking about a guy getting arrested the U I drugs, whatever because as a professional athlete these things should never happen. But in reality in society divorces happen. You know, people have personal lives at, you know, have a lot of negative things that happen in it, but that's not something that the media should talk about because his private, you know, if the guy was to come out in public and talk about it, then now you have the opportunity to question him about it. But if it's something that's under a person's roof in his home that hasn't come out the doors, hasn't seen through the windows, and that's where should be kept. You've been on both sides of the issue, one being the athlete, that's been reported on not in this particular area, by the way, and also now being a part of the media in a sense. Why do you think we've gotten to this point? Why? Do you think the media is doing what it is doing in this area because people want to hear that? Dan age where people wanna hear that? It's like tabloid. You know, like drugs, drugs know addicted to hear the negative that, that's what they wanna hear these days. When you have something positive. It's just it's just gloss, right over like. Oh, okay. So what it was positive. What about the negative stuff we can talk about for the next week because we'll get ratings or we'll sell papers because that's what people want here. I think that's a sad state when country waiting for someone to have a negative situation so that we can talk about, you know, what's interesting. I've always said, this, at one time, somebody asked me, why I got into sports rather. The news I said it was real simple. Because I said, the cliche is man's failures chronicled on the front page man successes. Chronicled on the sports bait. I don't know that we can say that. The more I think it's all just entwined into one front page now where when you, you turn a front page, and you see the salon. Column. There's more baseball players and athletes than they are celebrity so called Hollywood star. So I think it's all intertwined now. I think it's all about the money, and if you making a lot of money you subject to any type of press, is it also because really an I've said this on the air before that athletes are entertainers. I know people complain about how much athletes make, but they never complain about how much an actor makes don't complain how much musician makes but they do complain about athletes, and I don't think people see them as entertainers and I'm wondering if it's because all of his played baseball, we played sports when we were growing up. And so we'll never see it as a business. Yeah. You'll never see sports as entertainment. I mean you always see it as sports I think, but I think the money you know, it's on the same level as all the other entertainment entertainers, as far as some guy's making twenty million a movie. Now you have some players make twenty million a year. So I think it's all has to do with what the economy of each. Each if the sport is making a lot of money as a bigger piece of pie for everybody. So now that there's a bigger piece of pie as big a microscope, because back when I played, I think, is made a million bucks, and they were under a small microscope. Now guys, make twenty a microscope is so big you can look look through in the world. So if one of those things now where money brings attention. And I think it's just the money it has nothing to do with the sport because a sports still the same the only thing that's different sport is the money. What's the correlation between the way the fan and even the media to some degree of valuate s- looks at a player if they're making three million dollars compared to the player that's making twenty million dollars in the expert you're smiling and the expectation that goes along with that salary, but you know, it's funny because if when I played if a guy made three million he was that guy that was really under the microscope. Everything. Right. Because they were guys making five hundred thousand three hundred thousand but the guy making three he was the big fish and upon now the guy making three. He's a twenty fifth guy on the bench. You know, he's the guy that hey runs up gets coffee for the guy at makes twenty million. But now the guy that makes twenty million he has one bad game of sun people asking what happened to him. He's not as good as used to be. Let's just take Zita for an example. With him out there, making so much money now even though he's throwing a ball well he's still losing games. And now people going, why do we pay a hundred twenty million for guy who loses games? It doesn't matter feet throws. Well, we want him to win, but that has to do with whether it's team catches. The ball behind him or scores run for him. He has nothing to do with that. All you can do throw a ball. So if he wins loses it really has no bearing it's about how much money he makes should we him or not. And also, if somebody's making hundred twenty six million dollars. The belief is well, he's going to go out there and win every game. He better win every game if they're making it as a player that plays in a position they better hit a home run or be hitting above three hundred. I mean there is that explication that goes along with dollar signs wealth? Or you're absolutely right. But when you start talking about a guy making a hundred twenty million he's not going to win every game. He's not gonna strike everybody out. What you wanna do is be consistent enough to keep you in every game. Keep you give you an opportunity to win games. He you know, he's only a pitcher he doesn't throw very hard and he controls the game. But he doesn't dictate the outcome. Yes. A pitch hero piss there. But you guys have to come in and help this guy out after play. His hit home runs have to knock in Geiss Korans. So we put together and he's out there and he's doing well and he keeps the team that pose a team down to three runs. He's done his job now on other guys to win. So, I think because he makes that money. It doesn't matter if he loses is gonna get booed, if he wins, he bet a win and throw almost a shutout one of the things, I've always been interested in sports, particularly in a clubhouse, whether it be football or baseball is the chemistry aspect because it's a word you can't really define and how it's developed his very, very unique. Can you talk a little bit about chemistry in clubhouse in baseball? How it's developed does the star player gets treat her differently than the guy who's down at that twenty-second twenty. Twenty four th position on the roster. Should they get treated differently? I mean it's always going to be like that. And should they say, probably so because if you have a superstar who got a basically, puts puts put people in the seats he's got hit you between three hundred and three twenties? Going to drive in one hundred twenties on a hit thirty home runs. That's super star. He should be able to do exactly what he wants to limit as long as it's team oriented should be able to do exactly what he wants. He needs to actually give them a day off if he needs to take batting practice off give him that whatever he needs to play. That's what you should do. But now I don't think he's any different from the twenty fifth guy. The twenty fifth guy may have some knowledge of what's happening in each game to help out that superstar who can't see what's happening around him. But he has other ice who will watching so that twenty fifth guy comes up and says, hey, you know, he's throwing your slider when there's a guy on second base and two outs. Oh, I didn't know that. So he's give them information as well as been twenty-fifth guy. Somebody asked me once whether. I considered very bonds to be a superstar. And I said, no. Now, let me explain to you. I said that I consider Michael Jordan to a been a superstar and the reason why was not only because of his talent. But he also had the other attributes Bip that I think are part of being a superstar. He made other players around him better. I always felt that berry was divisive in the clubhouse, and we all know you've covered the giants for a number of years. He didn't bring that team closer together. He didn't raise that team to another level. Did he carry the team? Sometimes, of course he did. But to me, if you use the definition of somebody who is not only a star in his talent, but also makes other players around them better and knows what it takes from moment to moment to make the team successful. I put that into a Michael Jordan category. Not a very bonds category. I agree with you. I think there were times when vary had the opportunity to bring the team closer and to really stand out as that leader. And I think there are times when he just pushed it away. And I don't know if because he was still looking forward to reach goals. Or if he still had what he was trying to do that was more important than what everybody else was trying to do. But I really think there were times when he had guys in the clubhouse Davis. Eric Davis, like Sean Johnston, a Benito, Santiago, those guys who weren't intimidated by berry. But would bring very enter the team oriented affairs. I think you know, he needed more guys like that around him when he was young. And had those type of guys you never heard many things about Barry. It's as far as being a Lou for over an corner by himself. I think when he came here, and I said, it was very bond show, then he had four five lockers, televisions and shares and whatever, but I think when he was surrounded by veteran guys that he looked up to. He just fell right into place. Instead, all San when you have the adult elephant leading than the juvenile offense will follow. And I think when very had those type of guys he followed but when it was his turn he already had this. I'm Barry Bonds. I'm the man type thing. Now I'm going to go here. In my own little space and be myself, and he didn't allow himself to be very Basel leader in about ten seconds, fifteen seconds was he a good teammate. As a fifty fifty to some. He was a great teammate. He really really ticked off the wrong way bit Roberts with us talking very candidly. We're talking baseball. We'll also talk about the kids. 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Well, I just thought you know, when I was in San Diego and I was listening to a television broadcast, and it was a mayor up here, and he was saying how he needed some guys come back home, and those guys have been successful comeback mentor and teach because that's what the city of Oakland had been missing. You know, guys have become successful and leave town and they never come back. So I was one of those guys at Mayer Brown was talking to say come back home and help out as much as you can. And I guess I decided that's what I do when you think about Oakland, California, I think everybody else around the country, probably thinks of what they hear today about the problems at the city has. And I'm just wondering describe Oakland California as a kid growing up because I mean Ricky Henderson came out of there. A lot of great athletes basketball as well as baseball came. Out of Oakland, California and the East Bay talk about it as a kid. Well as a kid, it was a place that I, I was just so proud to grow up in, I knew the history of baseball and I knew all the players who had come before me being a little kid there, Veda Pinson was my, my babysitter. So I knew about Veda piston when I was in kindergarten how he was planning a major leagues. And, and just watch Valence. Wow. Someday. I want to be like Veda but growing up there having as in town being able to go watch Joe Rudi Bert cap near Sao bandeau did green Reggie Jackson blue moon autumn catfish. And the rest of those guys. Ray Fosse going to wash those guys every day, I just developed a love for the game. And I guess around the third grade my pork card came home saying this kid has a desire in baseball, and these should get him in baseball. But I just love baseball because everything that was around me. We had a chance to listen to the as games during the day when air in the playoffs and World Series we had chance to watch it watch the game. While we're in classroom. It was just baseball seem like it was family oriented little league games. You had mom and dad aunts, and uncles picnics after the games. I made it was all based around family. Oakland was like that then everyone's grass was green, you could walk from one hundred six to ninety eighth and no one would bother you. It was so many things that was so positive in city, then that, when I look at it now have a hard time, even wanna just hang out in the city limits, because I start to think about bulls eye on my back. You know, my target will get rob. While I get shot. So those type of things come to my mind, but then I started to say you know what this so many kids here, who have talent, you know, if I was one of those kids back in and I had talent. And I knew that Ricky Henderson, those guys before me. And if I was a kid right now and I know Bip Roberts with those guys before me, I would figure that I would have a chance for some reason that is just not like. It used to be kiss. Now in high school, I think about work if think about girls think about drugs and not thinking about what's going to happen after high school. You want said when you get kids on the field who loved to play baseball, you have to encourage them, and you certainly are doing that. You went to skyline high school where you played your baseball before going onto UNLV to play your college ball there. You've now come back in your the head baseball coach at that high school. What is the difference between the time when Bip Roberts was on that field at skyline in the kids that you now have in that you're coaching? Well, when I was at skyline the Ohio had at least twelve guys drafted into pro. Well, nowadays, though, L has none. Think one thing has changed is that we have a large influx of Hispanic Americans who are now plan in Oakland Athletics, lead, a lot of the African American kiss plan basketball football. I have a lot of Asian kids that have come in and start plans. So there's a lot of different races of people plan the game of baseball Oakland wears, when I played it was predominantly African American, and we had those guys like Ricky Henderson. Gary Pettus, Lloyd be just a name few guys come out of there. Now nowadays for whatever reason the kids in high school level have to be taught the game. They're so far behind now when it comes to just basic fundamentals that we spend most of our time trying to teach a kid how catch so I, I like the blame that on the, the coaches before me their mistakes. And I try to fix them. A couple of decades ago, maybe as soon as just fifteen years ago about twenty four percent of the population in the major leagues was African American. That's dropped down to eight point two percent now and people, I think are scratching their heads as to. Why do you have any idea why being an African-American yourself? Well, I think I know and people say, well, that s pretty far fast, but they used to be a game 'cause strikeout and what it was we go outside. We put a square on the wall, and you have your buddy and you just play baseball one on one all day. There you learned the game as far as a base it now, you know, guys, I now if you get another base it, you know, the guy if he had speed to get the third base. Okay. So now you have to union buddy all day long your plan baseball. He's trying to strike you out. You're trying to hit the ball. He's learning how to pitch you learning how to hit and you out of trouble. I just don't see that anymore as I drive around the fields around Oakland. There are no kids plan strikeout. And I know. Pete Rose play strikeout. I know Joe Morgan play strike out. I played strike on Ricky Henderson play strikeout all these guys except for myself in the hall of fame, but we all play major league baseball. So the has to be something to what strikeout can do to help a kid play baseball outside of having nine men organized baseball. Do you think anything will change over the next ten years as far as the influx of African American players into the game again? Well, I think what I have done a friend of mine heath Britain and myself. We've panted the game strikeout. So what we've done is we come up with the square. The baseball's the pitching rubber and the rules to the game. Now what we wanna do as tournaments and have kids from all over these bay participate in east tournaments so that you can see exactly how fun it is to play strikeout. I think strike out is, is one of the most exciting games that you could play you and the buddy all day long just learn how to play the game. And I think if like the pet rock. You know it's, it's there, but you can play with him have hours of fun strikeout develop out. He hit right handed. You can develop how to hit left handed. I mean you can develop out hit the ball up the middle. You can develop so many things by just give us some time to this game with a pet rock. You don't have to walk in the house, either. Let me switch. Here's on you for just a second. You know as well as I do that the kids, look at the pro athlete, they're impressionable. They see what the athlete does, and they try to replicate it in some way. What fact do you see, do you sense, the whole steroid performance era? Had on kids in the way they view athletes in the way they perform. I think that'll era was era that was, I don't know. It was, I think from hail that was an air from hail. Whereas all the good things that have been done, or just completely wiped out during that era. I am so shamed of those guys, I have so ashamed of being a part of it not that I use it. But I was in uniform allow those guys were using it, not that I knew about it. I wish I had known about it. But even if I did is probably not could have done about it. But what I think right now is at the kiss 'understand what's right and was wrong as I talked to my kiss skyline. They know they would never touch their Royds. And why? Because that's the message I give them is no reason for you to touch this stuff. If you're just that good. And why would you touch it? Unless a doctor say you know what? This is life or death. You have to take this. I think right now. The kiss understand that it doesn't matter if you're professional athlete, or not, you still can make the right and the wrong choice. And they know these guys made the wrong choice. I talked to Grant Hill, one time and I said when a young kid sees you? What is it that they look in what do they see said? Well, first of all, they know how much have making second of all, they look at the jewelry third of all, they take a look at the car that I'm driving and kids seem to not understand that to become a pro athlete. You have to work hard. It's not so. Something that just is, is there. And so I'm wondering whether they're looking for shortcuts. And that whole steroid performance era was one that indicated to them. Hey, this is the shortcut I could take. And I'm going to get the reward that goes along with it. Yeah. I think they were looking at the end result they were looking at a major league baseball player who was using steroids. Now, this guy's already as I consider an expert in this game so of an expert could enhance his ability, this no telling how good he can become, but these kids right now who are living, basically a dream that their parents want them to live. Okay. Little johnny. We want you to go out and play shortstop h-have. We get your personal training. We get you, a couple shots here there, we can get you there. But that's a father was teaching a kid how to fail. So what we've done as certify coaches now is to have similar Nour's and talk to these other coaches who think that winning is the only thing that's important without teaching these kids, what's right. And what's wrong, how to have survival skills and life? So that's where we've gone. Back to teaching these kiss out has viable skills understanding that each time you make a decision. You have a choice. You have a consequence to that decision. And if they can understand that I'm sure they always pick the right way because I don't know any kid that I would walk up to a hot stove put his hand on there and say, you know, I knew the consequences I just wanted to my hand knowing the psyche of the pro baseball player having been one. What is it that you think made them decide to do this was it? The fact that everybody else is doing it the fear of failure, which I think a great motivating factor for the pro athlete, their, their psyche is so fragile sometime. What was it that made it acceptable for them to cheat money, money? What else could it be you already have the ability, a lot better than most people in the world? First of all your select few. So what else could it be? You already lived out, gene by becoming a major league player. I think it had to do with five a great year put up the right. Numbers I can get a multi year contract that right now within Konami of the game could be a substantial. It could be where ten to twenty thirty now hundred twenty six million by having a great year. Now, remember in major leagues. You don't have good years, you'd have a bad year or you have a great year. So these guys have a great year. They get paid for it. And that's what the whole thing is all about. If I can have a great year. Stay consistent. Play all year because this will enhance my ability to recuperate give me strength and coordination, then I can make more money than I ever thought I could. And you know as well as I do. Well, it comes down to being an individual choice by the baseball player, there were an awful lot of people around and in baseball that were in able as well. And I'm talking about front offices. I've talking about trainers. I'm talking about major league baseball at the very top that turn their head the opposite way and didn't address this problem. Yeah, absolutely right. There's no way to deny any of that my problem with it. All is you hurt innocent kids, insecure who believe in this game gave their lives to play this game. You know, when you start talking about kids, who made it to the major leagues you're talking about kids, who did nothing but play baseball, you know, when mom and dad went on picnics, a mom and dad, went on vacation, when mama, dad did anything this kid what the play he didn't do anything. So now as, as a major league player, he misses graduations, he misses birthdays. He misses everything to play this game. So I think right. Then this kid has shown a desire to do what he wants to do a life. Why would you want enhance that and take it away from this kid? See, that's the problem. I have with it. The kick and work his butt off to get there. And now with that one bad decision. You've touched him for life. So now when he wants to do something after baseball he becomes that ball player who cheated when you think back those twelve years that you were in uniform and played in the major leagues. Is there a particular memory that seared in your mind that you'll never forget about that career a game an at bat? Probably a there's a few that I remember one was off of berry. Jones was a walk off home run. I hit to left, centerfield. He was with Monchy. I expose the Padres. It happened San Diego. And I remember that because we played together very, very, very Jones was his name, we played double A together and Pittsburgh. And I remember one day I think I had a separated shoulder from from a collision with bodybuild Neha. And so it was tough to throw it at first half and I made a few throwing airs and he was the kind of guy that would try to get on you. And I remember one day he was calling me out, and he goes, well, you know, such a such and such, I said, well, you know what one day I'll have to face you in the big leagues. And we'll see what happens. And I got that chance and I remember Kerbau two strikes that he thought was a strike an park called it a ball. And then battled him through another curb on hitting the seats and left centerfield left handed. And it was a best filling in the world was to actually put that ball. All where the sun don't shy. When you took off that uniform for the very last time any regrets about it, or did you just realize it was a transition and you just had to get on with your life. What had that one regret? And I think it was game seven World Series game six. I remember the hydrated and really been really sick have been sick. Probably probably the, the Nash the American League championship series and the World Series. And it just all came to that game before game seven, but I was ready to play in just coach Hargrove didn't play me. We end up losing game seven and not to this day felt like if he played me. We would wanna game. I want to thank you. You know, you and I have known each other for a long time, and every time we get together, we have the most interesting conversation, there's going to be a lot of people that are going to hear this, and I hope they hear the message that you had about kids and about performance in about the career and put it all under perspective for VIP. I can't. Thank you enough. It's a message. That's very strong. And it says an awful lot about the character of you in about the way you were raised by your mother and your grandmother as well. 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But news that I saw last night. And yes, this is my first night, back in the main seats of the shows on with you guys last night, rich and it was a nice trip to Japan and a long recovery slept for like fifteen hours yesterday after getting back, but film better today. And so, we'll open the phones up as we always do take your calls about anything but late last night. So this headline coming in, and I thought it was a repeat, and it is a repeat, meaning that I thought it was like an old story. But it turns out, it's a new story the same as the old story, Chelsea Manning, going back to jail whack one back again, why they just released addicted before she got out. They issued the new subpoena. Well, she was in jail, then I think the reason they actually troubled themselves to release her was to give her a little taste of freedom and hope that she would weaken and I'm proud of her for not weakening. You know, she's, she's got a lot of balls. She sure sure does. And for those that aren't familiar, of course, Chelsea Manning used to be known as Bradley Manning, and Bradley Manning was the, the pipe really wasn't intending to go there. But yeah I mean it's important to, to bring up the history. Yeah. I might not know at, you know the first blush who we're talking about. Because when Chelsea went to jail originally the first time for several years, it was as Bradley Manning, and that person are at that time, she was working in the military and helped ferret out, well information he wasn't working. I'm pretty sure they cut her off after they sure sure information got to WikiLeaks and ultimately revealed all kinds of untoward fire. At that point. And so she was obviously strip for clearance and all that. But that was what brought her into the so-called Justice system in the first place was injustice was her release of those various different tapes. I think one of them was a video if I recall of military people shooting innocence over in the Middle East, I forget was drones and the innocence that they killed included I believe American journalists, but they were definitely journalists. Yeah. Workrooms basically. Right. And so rather than, you know, thank her for the heroic effort that she engaged in shining. Light upon the violence of, you know, the this, this war, warmongering state, the state, of course, through the book at her and center to prison. Alternately thankfully to of all people Barack Obama for commuting her sentence in letting her out before. She was originally supposed to. Yeah. You should get some some credit for that because that's one of the few unabashedly good things that he did well in off the end. But it still counts for something. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's better not to leave them in their right? Unfortunately, she then was put back into jail just a matter of what a couple months ago I think it was think she's been around sixty days or so in on this. In for sixty out for seven. And now again, probably I'm guessing back in for sixty because I guess they can only hold you until they're sure you're really serious. Well, they can hold you as long as the grand jury is being subpoenaed, from what I understand, and did the grand jury completed task because I think there's a limit to how long grand Jerry can stay in session. I think it's like eighteen months is only as, as they thought it would be affective, you know, getting a response from we'll certainly they can do they can let her out when it's judge's order. So the judge, you know, determine when to let the personnel, but ultimately, they can hold her for the entire grand jury process if she hasn't done what they want her to do in. They just keep the pressure on for as long as they want. Here's the latest here from UPN naked, always just bring form another grand jury the day the day after she gets. She gets out. Also. So I mean we all exist as centers in the hands of an angry government, so UPI reporting a federal judge has ordered Chelsea Manning to return to jail after she in the this happened yesterday after she again refused to testify before grand jury about an investigation into WikiLeaks, appearing in court in Alexandria manning refused to comply with a subpoena. Compelling her to give testimony. She had actively attempting to compel there. I might say she said, quote, I would rather starve to death than change my position in this regard. She told the court confinement, serves no purpose. Well, it does serve a purpose. It does serve a purpose to the state in this case it serves the purpose of showing people what happens if you go against them, even though they know that she's probably going to hold firm and not cough up. The information looking for they still have to punish her otherwise other people get, we'll get into their. Heads that they can just refuse to speak, then, again, even with the punishment other people can get it into her into their heads that they can just speak in have the stones stand up to what happened. It's amazing that they can force speech out of somebody like that. It's awful. It's terrible. It creates situations where people are pressured into saying things that are not true because if they don't they'll be punished for it. See, I was actually in a situation when I was when I was thirteen and I had a girlfriend who is twenty three and my, my parents, wanted this woman, prosecuted as one can well understand. And but so the prosecutor basically I don't understand you didn't want that. Well, I didn't want that. But I understand because I understand the atmosphere in which. I grew up in which. You know, Lou regards saxes something that I should have been protected for myself on, you know. So I understand in the same sense. I understand why we're so adamant about my smoking self. Not to say I agree. I understand the reasoning I if he didn't have the, the woman would have been self mutilating, which is just terrible. Oh my. I didn't know that part of the store hall. I don't know that part of the story. So what I'm saying is that if they didn't charge her, you would be, or they separate you from her thirteen year old they can charge you with self mutilating or something along those lines, where do the self mutilation. You're doing to yourself. Last. That's not self mutilation. Yeah. They call it self abuse. Okay. Although if you're consenting, I don't see how. This is the but that's the point that I'm trying to make. Yeah. I, I do see your point. It was just a mutilation, sorry. I threw me to this story beyond, you know, mere verbal masturbation was that what I told the prosecutor was, oh, if you call me a witness. I will lie on staff. Night. Black is white. Ignorance is strength. I just read nineteen Eighty-four and, and so, basically, if you do that, to a prosecutor if you tell him that you will lie. He is literally committing a criminal act if he puts you on the stand that act is called subornation of perjury. It's a serious act. It's what Bill Clinton was actually impeached for okay? This is this is a felony this will end in attorney's career. So the bottom line is, if you tell them, you will lie they can't call you as a witness, or at least I have never been called in witness what I view as witnessed what I've used this the tactic, you know, point, and even if you don't want to go with the lying, route Chelsea could always just say, I don't recall. So she felt like she had a gun to her head, and that she had to testify you develop amnesia. 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So the original grand jury was done now they've got another one and they're trying it again. Prosecutors immediately issued a second subpoena and she'll be held in jail until she agrees to testify or until the current grand jury term expires in eighteen months. So are these juries for the same thing. Thing or they like for different things like what's. They call a grand jury for the same chart. Why would they have the grand jury multiple times, unless there is new evidence? Maybe you're something nothing. Good question. Yeah. See other than threatening to lie. The other thing that if she was a member of my church, she could do is, is we regarded as a sin violate your own conscience. So she could agree to take the stand and then refused to be sworn. There's, there's there are a lot of strategies that can be employed in this case. And I, I often ranging up your strategy if if it first you don't succeed come Adam from from another direction and hope they don't see it coming. But the sounds like she's trying to make a statement public statement I'm. Be that she's that, that, that part of her stick is that she's just going to she's going to sit bear it with without resist. Whatever he's done. Seven years. They're eighteen raid of being thrown in jail cell anymore. So that's an important point is that once you've gone to jail. And you've had that experience now to be clear, not all jails are made equal. Okay. So we the king spiritual retreat here in, in Keene after which is not quite the same as some of the other jails out there. But once you've had your freedom taken from you in that way, it's not as much as an imposition to have it happen to you again. So usually the government uses the threat of jail, as this, you know, this. The essentially to motivate people to do what they want them to do. And for most people at worked pretty well, Chelsea like whatever put me back in. I've been there before system other day, another ten days and other ten months now. Prosecutors. Let's see here. They say this time, though manning will be fined five hundred dollars per day for every day. She refuses to testify figure that will increase to one thousand dollars per day after sixty days so they are really putting the screws to her as much as they possibly can can you imagine? Yeah. For refusing to testify amazes me is that they think that somebody's gonna pay a fine if I'm fine or thousand dollar fine a day when they're not even willing to in the first place. You think if they're doing it immoral like for moral principle reasons, or for, for any reason, you know, I would hope she doesn't pay they're not gonna pay. I mean, it's, it's I hope you're right about that does though is render her unable to accumulate any assets. So it even if you don't pay there's definitely an imposition on your further imposition on, on your freedom. Because as soon as you put an asset on in yet, they're just going to come and take. Figure to lean your body. You'd have to like form a church and then put all your all your asset cement name. So back to the story here. Prosecutors have not publicly disclosed the specific nature of the investigation in which they seek to have manning testify NBC, ABC news, reported the probe is likely related to charges filed against WikiLeaks, founder, Julian Assange, it was arrested last month at the Ecuadorian embassy in London. I suspect what they're trying to do is hit him with even more charges because when they first when he got arrested after leaving the embassy when Assange was arrested the charge I think there's only one charge at the time. Right. And it was like up to five years in prison for the one charged that he was facing. I don't know if they've added some sense, then I haven't heard that, but I believe it was something like the conspiracy to assistant hacking or something that affect, and it was it's kind of weird charge because she was never even accused of hacking. I'll tell you what if. If I was manning, I would start Lee considered going to policing the country, it's going to Russia or anywhere allowed to leave. Good question. Let's say provoked her passport in theory, she should be able to keep me from going to the Russian embassy. And I would count on Russian space out of the country if they want to well, that's easier said than done. Yeah. That's why Assange was stuck in that embassy in the UK for six or seven years because he couldn't leave because they were surround they surrounded the place. They had cops twenty four seven watching it more coming up. Hey guys. Hey guys, Mark Claire here. Lying liberty dot com, where we strive to advance the ideas of liberty daily, we bring you the morning. That's right. Every Monday to Friday. We'll have a brand new addition of the morning roar. We've remind around some news stories that you may not find in the mainstream media for even the your typical social media newsfeed. 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And I suspect the federal bureaucrats that are obviously out to get her are going to try to string along this grand jury for all of those eighteen months if they possibly can because, basically, they can just say, well, you know, sorry grand jury. We would've, you know, we wanna moved along sooner, but this stick in the mud over here, Chelsea Manning. She's refusing to testify, so we're just going to have to keep impaneled for all eighteen months. We can try to squeeze some testimony out of her, which means these poor bastards on this grand jury. I don't know. I've never been on a grand jury, thank goodness because I don't know what it's what it's like at a federal. Jury are used to peanut for a certain number of days per month. Are you there for the whole month? You know, how, how does that work? Well, it's pretty much under the control of the prosecutor is my understanding, so he could have a grand jury that was impaneled in theory. But if he didn't summon them on a particular day to come in here testimony than I don't think they would have to to go, and like sit in a room. So basically, he's only taking up their time to the extent that he's taking up his own time. I see presenting testimony to them. So if you want to join us, you can do that, as we continue, we get other court related news, because it's pretty much all there is to say on, on Chelsea's part. She's a hero. I'm glad that she's doing what she's doing. And I know it's costly to her personally to do this, so goddess plus her for it. And I hope that other people are inspired by this example that she has provided. And, and also, I would like to say dick move, Mr. Trump. Indeed. Is it is it Trump is, yes, it would be. He's the buck stop it with him. He could claim ignorance but if it was brought to his attention, and he wanted to stop it. He certainly could if he's the head of the executive branch, he should be able to stop, whichever Justice department prosecutor at is that is brain. It's it's his purview Trump who during his campaign, lauded WikiLeaks, he said nice things about WikiLeaks during the campaign. They helped him inadvertently by releasing the, the Hillary Clinton, emails, and unfortunately, that kind of puts him in a bind because if he does do the right thing with Chelsea ma'am, Chelsea Manning than there, or with Julian Assange, there's a significant chance that they will say, oh well, you're just doing that because because of the Russian collusion. He because they helped you in the Russians collude, which of course, there wasn't any conclusion with any evidence for less. Kind with all the more reason for him to do it, though. These, it's like just throw it in their face. Right. It's like you don't own me, but I wouldn't expect anything like that to happen. Just like I expect. To give a commute commutation to Rasoul bricked. I mean that's Ross is only chance to get out of prison at this point. And I, I know his mother really believes it's possible, and I wish I could believe that it's possible. I just don't I don't I don't think that Trump's going to do it. I hope I'm wrong. I really do. I wanna see Russel brick get out of prison. The guy who for listeners, don't know co founded the silk road and is now sentenced to, to life sentences plus a forty years behind bars and his exhausted, all appeals, despite the fact that the evidence used to convict him was, obviously corrupted by cops that were already, and who went to prison at least two one seek out. They were convicted. They pled guilty to corruption dealing. Okay. They still in. I think so. Okay, yeah, I don't remember what their sentences were, but I think there were at least several years it's only five to seven or something like that. All right. So if you wanna bring up, whatever you want you do that toll free number here. Eight fifty five four fifty for you got a another court related story. Chris, where's it coming from? I do this is coming from the New York Times. It's a it's an interesting story. So it's basically accusing this man of putting the law on the internet. And that apparently is terrorism. Putting the law on the internet. Yeah. You know, the laws when they get written. Well, he's basically posting, you know, the laws on the internet, and in Georgia apparently, that's legal in, and they're making argument at this, which Georgia. Georgia like the US state. Okay. Okay. Because georgia. And apparently, they're, they're making the argument, I think they lost. And now they're calling terrorism like they're trying to bring it up to the supreme court. And here's let's get into the story of it. Yeah. Carl bowl believes in open access to government records and has spent more than a decade putting them online. You might think the states would welcome the help. But when Mr. Mullah, mud groups post in the official code of Georgia annotated, the state sued for copyright infringement. So when did the state ever or the government, ever have copyright versus doesn't everything state, creates isn't that? Yeah. I've always thought that it's not like they need a copyright to encourage them to write laws. So what would even be the rationale of extending copyright to, they probably have some sort of exclusive deal with one of these, like Munich owed companies, you know, in the, in the world, the legal land, there's these sort of hangers on a service companies that have sweetheart deals with, like the courts, so they might have a deal to be the exclusive company that puts all the court documents online, meaning you know, when you in some states, you can't do it here in New Hampshire. But in some states, you can go online and you can, like search the criminal court documents, like if I wanted to pull up Rich Paul state versus Rich Paul and Michigan or something they had those online. There's some company that is tasked with doing that, right. And it's usually run by lawyers and, you know they hire programmers. And they, they charge the state and arm and a leg. To provide these services. I'm just guessing here that this has something to do with it, where the state has said, yes. Our laws can go online, probably this one legal services company. Run by our buddy, can can do it. That's my guess. And that's kind of what I recall to from this. This is like an ongoing thing. I from my recollection that's been going on for years. And you know, maybe I don't know if it's a specific story. But I, I do recall this, this basically being an ongoing issue. Now, this is this is the part that gets interesting providing public access to the state's laws in related legal materials. Georgia's layers said was part of a strategy of terrorism, and that's a quote. I'm fascinated by this. I really wanna hear how they explained how this is terrorist laws. We're gonna find out federal appeals court ruled against the state, which has asked the supreme court to step in so they lost basically essence step in rural terrorism. It's god. I mean, they they, they can. Afford. It. Argument. Sure. But it's not like they're spending their money on Friday in an unusual move Mr. Mullah, mud group public resources dot org. Also, urged the court T here, the dispute saying that the question of who owns the law as an urgent, one agree about twenty other states have claimed that parts of similar initated codes copyrighted, the issue, the group said is, whether wait a minute their annotated. Right. So that's different than. Notes on lung side, the law. Right. And I think that's maybe what they're claiming it over maybe issue. The group said is whether can't have access to the raw materials of our democracy. The case, Georgia verse public research, not, or number eighteen dash fifty concerns. The fifty four vines of official code of Georgia annotated fifty four volumes annotated, that's a lot standby. We'll continue the discussion here the toll free number. If you wanna join us is eight fifty five four, fifty freaking anybody, try to make an arguments to how this is terrorism because I don't I love free talk live. So the projection of life, liberty and properties with the Free State price about. But it's it's an effort to move twenty thousand people who understand it's about demonstrating to the entire country. Yeah. We can have a free market truly fee market making just a great place to live. It's the world's largest wall interests libertarian community, and it's, it's only getting bigger to be able to move to other people's passionately believe in being free. 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You can dial in toll free bring up whatever you want. Our number here is eight fifty five four fifty free. We're talking about the allegation from the Georgia state government, goons against a man who posted their annotated laws online claiming that this is an act of terrorism. That's right. And they're taking this claim all the way to the US supreme court having already lost at a US appeals court in Chris, you're gonna share some worth from the story here. It's Ian, rich and Chris in the studio tonight. Plus, don't forget, you can check out more, Chris and rich on the show that you guys do on Saturday, afternoons so decrypted freedom to crypt. Eastern at. Yeah. Five PM eastern till when it's done usually it's a couple of hours. I think he'd been three hours so hours. All right. So you guys are having fun over there. It's freedom oriented tech show that you can both watch and listen to. So if you don't have time to just watch it, you can grab the podcast version. Download the audio and then drive to work and listen to it that way. Check him out over at freedom to crypto dot com. All right. Okay. Cool. So we continue, we'll take your calls and thoughts about what you want. Also wanna make sure that, you know that fork fast is coming up in just a matter of weeks. I think we are actually about four weeks, a little less than four weeks away from fork, fest, twenty nineteen. This is an opportunity for you to hang out with other freedom minded, people, people who love liberty and peace and freedom. You can go to forecast party. It's happening this June thirteenth through the eighteenth at Rogers campground, the beautiful White Mountains of New Hampshire. It's absolutely just a spectacular place to spend time and it's going to be a great excuse to come. Check out New Hampshire. If you've never checked out the putative place, where we live and you'll get to hang out with some of the, the most freedom oriented people on the planet. A bunch of them, all at once, and we don't know how many people are gonna show up though, because there's no tickets. To fort fest. So there's no number that anybody there's no fischel number that anybody can count because there's no centralized bureaucracy. There's no, you know, organizer group there's no central committee or anything like that. That's in charge of this event, you get to decide what to do when you're at forecast. So if you wanna create something for other people to experience you can do that. Or if you just want to come hang out and camp with other freedom minded people. You can do that too, and some people, I know earning handcock has designed with Dombi Barker, the very first ever four fest, t shirt. So that's very exciting. I think you order preordered a couple of. Oh, yeah. I ordered at least two, I think, and yeah, and there's yeah, there's all sorts of other stuff that's going on. I'm gonna be giving a talk on decentralized media where so at the expo ten Texan actually find out by going to the ten seeing the schedule. But yeah, it right on is going to be there, which, as you pointed out their schedules. Not being posted in advance. They're just trying to put it up there doing the, the weekend, and modify it as needed, but you can go to learn more about fork fast over at four fessed up party. That is the unofficial website, which links over to the unofficial telegram, chat room and forum over at fort fest dot party. Again, June thirteenth through the eighteenth is definitely not too late. It's not going to sell out. You don't have to worry about that, this, this campground can handle three thousand people. And I think we might have more than that. I've heard three to four thousand so I mean it would probably, yeah. Probably get pretty crowded. A lot of people on one of those camps camp throats. Thrall rented. They have no reason to stop you. That's that's definitely true. Although I wouldn't expect it's going to even hit you know, without because it's still just the third year. Fests is only hit like hasn't even hit quite two thousand I don't think so. Tight. Yeah. I think it peaked at, like, seventeen hundred or so. Yeah. Eighteen hundreds, probably. So go, go. Learn more at fort fest, party, we're all going so we'll look forward to seeing you there. And I would add a note to this, I will definitely be there if, if you're thinking traveling to New Hampshire and it seems like too far for one week of fork fast. Also, consider staying over for park fest, which is another liberty oriented festival in New Hampshire, at both of them. And it allows you to see one of the nice things about the Free State project is a multifaceted movement. We don't all agree on everything. So that gives you a chance to meet and greet to different. Porcupine tribes for one set of travel costs, the exactly that it's definitely one of the nice things about pork fest, and fork, vests. And or I shouldn't say those particular events, but the movement in general's it's. Very decentralized. There's lots of different groups all over the state. There's something you don't like just do you know, break away and do do your own way. You start your own. You start your own little old keen. We've got different tribes that get together meet up and stuff like that, you know, different people just don't get along. And you'll have that with any sizable number of people that we, we've achieved that. And, you know, achieve success because of that actually to the phones we go to jock calling in the UK, and then we can talk more about this alleged terrorism of posting the laws online jock. You're on free talk live watching us on twitched on on FM. Go ahead. I Hillman, UK you. So I don't know. Have you, you know you get called on the UK Jacques before you go on? I don't know what the rules are there in the UK. But we are doing radio show, some mix sure that you don't say certain curse words or else we have to hit the dump button and that'll make us very sad. So go ahead with with your call. So talk. Thing. Steph. Eight fifty four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. And if you say things that you're not allowed to say on broadcast radio, you don't make it to broadcast radio. So the people watching the video feed might have heard what you said, but the people the much larger audience, that's listening to us on dozens and dozens of broadcast radio stations have no idea what it was that you said, so toll free number eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. Sarah's in New Mexico. You're on free talk live. Hello, sarah. I get my turn. They're thinking of. From the United Kingdom. They're you. The at u k want to start buying Mexico. Green chilies only. You. You mean like vestry stores in the UK or the UK government, where would you expect them to get their I? I. But United you, you know, you're peeing union he you, you the by start by chilies from New Mexico way you say, e you it sounds like. Now Sarah, are you saying that the government, the European Union government gang is going to start buying food. Is that a thing that they do? I mean, I don't know how central control it is over there. I think it's individual companies that choose. Chilies from New Mexico. And I'm I'm wondering if the if we talked live has helped this because they decided to do after you been on, you know, a lot of the Albuquerque callers has called this show on the air in the UK, or in the EU. So I don't know why you would think that we would have that level of influence over what they decide to do. What thing from supposedly, he hears from UK not kingdom? I mean, he could be telling the truth because of accent your life. The guy that just called this curse on the air. Right. Well, I mean, there's a lot of people that watch on the computer. I mean, I wish there were a lot, but there really aren't a lot of comparatively other other Sarah, when you call other talk shows, do you call other talk show. Yes. She does. Okay. The local Hilda at us one you call the local shows be shirt a hype free talk live. Let. Be listening to us and tell them to tell their friends in London. Well, yeah. Right now, we have a total of eighteen viewers across across twitch, and the D live platforms at the moment, says there, I would say that, that's a little underwhelming, as far as numbers are concerned. But I do pre sheet that you believe in free talk live that you think that we have such an influence that we could influence the government to purchase green chilis, or whoever it would be the chili peppers from the Chinese distributor in the u Sarah anything. Really great on a three. Go from here, and it's one of the good things about New Mexico. Something positive because normally you're talking about how everybody's going to die if they come to New Mexico from cars are you being paid to say this the Tate? The tate. It sounds like she's. I mean, she keeps calling about different like things like organizations are companies are whatever I Sweden Tanger with Chile peppers. Thanks for the call toll free numbers. Eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. You can bring up whatever you want control the airwaves here. This is free. Talk live. We got more on this, the allegation that's sharing annotated loss from Georgia online is terrorism. I want to hear more about it coming. Free talk live. And a half. Nine cop backed up. Down to the ground. And I said, I think we need to call the police as I'm you know, screaming in pain and he's a. And he left the accident. 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You'll sound almost like you're sitting here in the studio with us for those of you just tuning in, to bring you up to speed in the last hour, Chris, you were sharing story from the New York Times about a case out of Georgia, the state of Georgia in the US where a man has been spending quite a bit of his time, I think proximity, a decade of his life, he has spent putting the annotated versions of the Georgia statutes, online, as the, you know, service to the people right like the service to the average person. I believe he's not charging for. Access to these files. And I don't know what he's doing if he's scanning them in page by page or exactly how it is that he's going about this. But they've decided not only do they want to put a stop to him for so called copyright violation, which seems confusing because as you pointed out in the last hour aren't all things produced by state governments supposed to be copyright free. How is it that this has copyright applied to it is it in something about the annotated version of statutes that has it is a bell? We're going to okay get into right now. Tell me more the state three legal publisher makes the statutes themselves available online legal publisher which is what I was suggesting earlier. And it has said it's not object to Mr. Mullah mode doing the same thing. But people who want to see other materials in the books. The state says must pay the publisher, so yeah. It's, it's, it's kind of exactly, you know what they're, they're arguing. It's basically. Okay. Well, sure that why is, you know, not copyright but adding things to the sides, the notes, basically, all of a sudden, you can't publish it make it available for free online. This is part of a disturbing trend according to a new lower. You article who owns the law, why we must restore public ownership of legal publishing. We law professor and librarian at Mercer university in Kong, Georgia, and can David Hun Sen I can. Hinton a librarian at Duke. It will be published in the journal of intellectual property, law states struck deals with Lille publishers article said have public publishers like unique owed if you've ever seen like the city of Keene, they put their, their code up on this website, Unico, that's not a government run site. It's run by one of these legal publishing groups, which is, of course, run by attorneys, and these guys, you know, charge the various different state, governments, and local governments, whatever exorbitant fees, they're charging them, to, for the service of keeping, their, their statutes in their ordinances available online, searchable, and updated rights when they pass some new stupid law, like they did recently with the with their banning the use of nicotine products under the age of twenty one here in Keene. When new things get passed they pass them along to the Munich owed people or whichever group. That is that publishes that and they take care of it for for the state. See what would make a lot more sense would be for the state to just put the published version the official version online, where anybody can download it, and then anybody who wants to publish copies of it as look hard downloading that's too hard for a bureaucrat man. It's outsource. He's actually company in the right publishing world. Yeah. I mean, I, I don't know how people own Hampshire, compiled laws. With imitations are online. Are you sure about that the IRA phase? Yeah, look them up all their annotations there. I don't. I don't ever call seeing there are annotated in the document like this. Part of it was repealed in this ear. It may not be the same level of annotation. It does contain some anti. I don't think any of them are written by third parties. I'm pretty sure that you have to pay for the entertains in Hampshire. And I think it's, it's the it's basically annotations in this context is basically notes about case law and things of that nature that you're right. The meaning of the words in the law itself, so and it's very important to have that in order something if you don't have that you're gonna have the funnier they do call it, revised statutes annotated. That's what our essays stands for in, in New Hampshire. So you're right. That is interesting are some annotations in there some notes about what was repealed in win. But I think that Christmas, right that the actual like lawyers annotated version goes deeper with case, right? Until you read the, you know, the case law in relation to certain aspects of the don't actually know what it means, and there could be different meanings in different states for the exact same quotable text. That's crazy. That is exactly the same. And yet, they have here for meetings, because there's two different states, and there's two different sets of case law, but to all this terrorism, I mean, those are the understand the argument I disagree with the argument, but at the very least I can understand where they're coming from when they say it's a copyright violation because they're saying that the annotations are the copyrighted portion, and so therefore, that's what they're saying is violating. But to say that, that is an act of terrorism. I don't know if anybody's gonna bother to try wanna I wanna who's afraid of, of somebody publishing the. I don't think they're a well maybe they are afraid instead, a critical component of terrorists has to be afraid or at least the person had you intend to here. Exactly what they charged him with. I mean it the terrorism in and of itself, isn't child. We're beyond with. Yeah. I think we're beyond that at this point as far as like. I mean we're, we're literally arguing it sounds like something to the supreme court that it's terrorism was he charged criminally. I mean with terrorism. Sounds like I mean I don't know. But the way this is being worded, it sounds like it's a civil type of case where they sued him, but I don't know sort of more like the Keene case. Terrorism. I know. Criminal thing. But it sounds like they like sued him and somehow they're calling. I don't know unfortunately I mean, maybe it tells us more in article I haven't really I may read this article more. Share more have struck deals with legal publishers article said that have effectively privatise publish now use powerful legal tools to control who has access to the tech of lawn. How how much they must pay. And under what terms article said, yeah. I mean, it's expensive basically that it is. It's very anything in law is expensive to get your hands on the information that you need to defend yourself. And this is why you need a lawyer because once you of money to these publishers, so they can have access to a threat, all of the information they need in order to know what the law is another one. Lexis nexis. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Another one trying to think who is that guy who committed suicide when they prosecute him that was not? Lexis Nexis wasn't it? It was the was TJ despise friend. Yeah. I remember you talking about Bob knew his brother, actually. Guy, right? Reddit guy remembers name, sorry. Ross because we were just talking about Ross. But yeah, yeah, I mean, this is this is some pretty crazy stuff. So basically the state of Georgia is going to bat for this publisher, instead of the publisher suing, which is strange, right? Because this the publisher has the deal. They're the ones that have the legal publisher, whoever they are that Georgia's working with they're the ones that have the contract wouldn't. You think they'd be the ones that would bring the suit yet? Normally, the FBI actually in does the investigation of, of copyright infringement. Well, that's what it says at the beginning of my DVD. Publishing that not FBI. That's being published by the, you know, the movie producers. Yeah. The imitators include descriptions of digital decisions interpreting the statutes, that's the part that they're saying is basically under copyright, which is which just seems absurd. It's outrageous. Yeah. It is. Absolutely. Outrageous, only very bad lawyer. What failed to consults? No lawyers gonna not consult them. I mean he wouldn't be able to, you know what the meaning of a statue is without consulting, the case law. And it's yeah, it's exactly what they're with those notes are on. It's on case LA basically, we got more coming up here. Eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. Maybe the company. That's the legal publisher isn't going after him because they want them charged with. 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It's Ian, the nobody formerly known as Rich Paul and Chris still trying to figure out exactly how they're quitting posting legal documents online terrorists completely finish reading the story, and there is nothing in here that would lead to an explanation. There's no no comment from the state gara- Kratz now where, where did the come from with that a faith not a false title? This is not misleading title. This is a New York. That the state is calling terror is in the headline of the New York Times. It's not just in the headline. It's a quote from the state, right? So it's not some out there headline to, you know be. It's, it's actually in a quote in the story. And also, by the way, I pulled up Carl Mollema, this is the person who's being sued or being charged sued actually, according to the New York Times, which implies is not criminal. Being sued by the state of Georgia for posting their, their statutes along with annotations. He just one one thing on his Twitter at Carl Malam ah. That's cer. L. M. A L. A MUD, the first comment from Sean FOSS MIR says the New York Times article suggests annotations by law publishers are involved, it fails to mention a crucial point highlighted by the eleventh, circuit, the annotations in question were quote authored by the Georgia general assembly and made an inextricable part of the official codification of Georgia's laws. So this guy in the saying the eleventh circuit courts saying, this isn't even the law publishers annotations, this is the state of. Yes. So that makes it even more outrageous outrageous crazy. Yeah. So, you know, I think I think there's a little bit here that's important to demonstrate how insane this to people. So, for instance, Georgia has law on the books making sodomy a crime, NO tation tells the reader that the law has been held unconstitutional, insofar as it criminalizes the performance of private and forced or I'm sorry, unforced, non commercial sexual intimacy between persons legally able to consent. However, the professor tells her law students to be sure to consult the notation Georgia's official coat when you go to a statue you see the language of the statute, but that doesn't necessarily tell you the meaning she said you go to the entertains which Lee the court's decisions, where the judge judges actually tell you what the words mean and the ruling for Mr. Mullah mood appeal. Court made a similar point entertains clearly have authoritative weight in explicit catering, the and establishing the meaning and effect of Georgia's law. So basically the annotation in this particular case must be down where here, basically says that this is been ruled unconstitutional, this law. Right. If you don't have those annotations, the law, you are going to be fighting a case, where you're arguing against the law. But if you don't say, hey, this has been ruled unconstitutional court, then you're basically, you're going to lose your case, and you're gonna be found guilty of a crime. That's not even a crime, any so yes for lack of. Law is so important like my Michetti case, if I hadn't read the law, and the precedent, right? I never would have known that a I hadn't broken any law when I got arrested and be how to beat it and you did. Yeah. I did beat that one. Yeah. This is. This is just absolutely saying. So, yeah, I mean basically the argument here is it's, it's pretty clear. I think it shouldn't be. And then still. No indication of why this is terrorism. Terrorism at all. Article you found in I haven't looked at any article about it. I just on Karl Mela moods Twitter just seeing what he's you know what he's saying here. Okay. There's not really anything here, about terrorism either, just it's just a quote from the state if the supreme court allows the question twenty twenty six will be best, because the, the census is the foundation of American government and society, and Wendy wiser lawyer with the Brennan center for Justice, which filed a brief supporting the challenges it will impact everything. She said from the allocation of political representation power to the allocation of federal funds to I think I might have. That's the story or something I did find something here from twenty fifteen. So this takes you back to when he was originally sued. So now he's kind of the cases moved on it's moved through an appeals court. He won at the appeals court level. This is from the register over in the UK, just again, the headline here, USA, Georgia sues terrorist for publishing its own laws on the internet down in the story. The word terrorism appears here, the state of Georgia filing points to a little more animists than concerns over scan documents in particular uses a quote of mallets from an article in two thousand nine in which he talked about committing quote standards terrorism unquote to actually accuse Melamed of committing a form of terrorism quote, consistent with its strategy of terrorism. Defendant freely admits to the copying and distribution of massive numbers of plaintiff's. Copyrighted annotations reads the lawsuit in parks. So I guess he called himself a standard terror. Wrist. And so they are now taking that Termine running with more or less calling yourself a grammar Nazi yet, sounds like it. Yeah. He describes himself on his Twitter. I don't know if I can pull that up again here. And this is why they say remain silence remain silent when talking to cops. Well, this is just something he tweeted. Yeah. I think he just put that out there. He calls in an archivist. This is his description self-description on Twitter, archivist usually civil servant founder of public resource dot or excuse me, public dot resource dot org. I'm sorry. I thought it was public resource dot org. It's public dot resource dot org. Apparently he owns resource dot org, which is pretty nice URL, open source, America's operating system. He says he also calls himself a code Swaraj, which is an ancient sanskrit term, which means. Means self rule. Self rule Swaraj? I'm surprised. We haven't heard of that one before. So Rosh can generally mean self-governance or self rule in was used anonymously, with home rule by let's see the Maharishi and Mahanta Gandhi. The word usually refers to Ghandi's concept for Indian independence from foreign domination. Sounds like we'd get along with this guy, the ad definitely. Yeah, definitely if he's in favor of self rule. And he's actually apparently out trampling the world as we speak. So interesting case, I'm glad you brought it to our attention, Chris. Yeah, yeah, there's just one less little, you know, at my, my phone is acting up. I'm sorry. Not, but yeah, I mean basically it's, it's, it's just an insane case, where they, they appear to be kind of taking words. I contact and calling material, I wonder if he's been ordered to take down, you know, by the judge in the case, if the you know. Has he been ordered to take down the Georgia statutes with the annotations or are there still available? Can you still go and it's just a question and download them I think they would be available at this point because they he did win. And so they're, they're peeling it, but he did win. So, you know, there's some good reason I would I would not think that they would, you know. Yes, there's some, some order, that's been given to stop that. Yeah. All right. More of the way you can share your thoughts or toll free numbers. Eight fifty five four fifty free. 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Say communists, quote, it's really hard to think of the human tragedy of this scale outside of civil war said, Cathro, Joffe economics, professor at Harvard University, and former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund. He said, quote, this'll be a touchstone of disastrous policies for decades to come defined similar levels at economic devastation. Economists at the IMF pointed to countries that were ripped apart by war like Libya earlier this decade, or Lebanon in the nineteen. Seventies but Venezuela at one point Latin, America's wealthiest country wasn't isn't Venezuela, where at one point wasn't it's wealthiest entity. They had alert oil wealth, and they still have the oil they failing to. They're failing. Keep it maintain this actually exploit that. Amazing. Well, let me it's not amazing. It's the failure of centralized planning. Right. Like they, they nationalize the oil industry. And then, of course, failed miserably amazing to me that they let it happen. I guess I mean, they're I guess they're getting when men with guns come into your, you know, your businesses a this is ours now. Yeah, well the thing is this happened with job do thunderous applause in Venezuela. Actually it did. Yeah. Yeah. They and see. Applause in America. Bernie Sanders your. Well past about. He's said it was more you're more likely to be able to achieve the American dream in Venezuela than America. This was when you job as was in office ridiculous. I'd like to hear your comments on those words, Bernie Sanders. If you're listening. Oh Sanders has been confronted about his position on Venezuela. I'm pretty sure his position is that well they did it wrong. But him in charge thing is they did it wrong while he was saying all you're doing it, right. Doing it, right. You're doing it. Right. What has he learned how his policy changed since? He's seeing policies fail in Venezuela. It's interesting because Venezuela has not collapsed overnight. It's taken. It's a mess yet. I remember Mars s more than. Yeah. Probably more than twenty years ago. Even at this point twenty years ago, it was doing. All right. Compared to today. Yeah. But took off teen years ago, they've had inflationary issues for a very long time and socialist policies that led to those inflationary issues going back twenty or more years. It's just gotten really, really bad. Last five to a point where basically, you know, things are collapsing awful. Yeah. It's not this is not something that just happens overnight. It takes a long time. So everybody's out there, who's voting for socialism in the United States. Just remember, it's not gonna be ends tomorrow. It's going to be twenty thirty years down the road. I mean they've gotta take we're gonna end up in the same boat. Right. It takes time for them to go around and nationalize a bunch of industries, and then take a successful industry and watch it fail. Because once you take a business, and you take it out of the hands of the people that created it and put it in the hands of, you know, careless bureaucrats who have no connection whatsoever to the marketplaces, that they're supposed to be serving. Then you watch those businesses spiral down the drain, ultimately in the same time the government in Venezuela printing out, money hand over foot. I mean, just continuing to run the printing presses at Nexium volume. You know that all of these things damage the economy, and like you're saying it takes time for that damage to really start to manifest in people's lives in the form of indicates that Venezuela missed meals. I remember I remember in the late nineties and early tee thousands people who were fleeing Venezuela, and people think that. That's, that's what people are doing today. But it's actually goes back a lot longer than that. Because all the people who are in business. The people who made Venezuela successful. They were leaving twenty years ago, there's nobody left in bed as well, who's capable of operating these businesses. And that's what happens when you implement socialism, the people who are capable and they are successful. They leave you can't business from them and expected to stay on. And this is how we get to this point. It's not something I it's way too late. You're not even if you over to democracy today, or I should say democracy, but to a more of a capitalist system. You're not gonna be able to solve the problem overnight because you're going to have to you're gonna have to give enough time where people maybe assuming you can even attract them back. But why would somebody who has left one come back? I don't know. It's they have capitalist systems. Elsewhere. They've already starting new businesses elsewhere, people generally, maybe maybe they're still refugees. Maybe they're maybe they're part of one of those refugee trains, that Trump is. Complaining about maybe but we know a lot of a lot of refugees a lot of people who flee some of them left a long time. We know a lot of people who flee from other countries, socially countries start businesses in the United States, and elsewhere. So I don't necessarily know that somebody's gonna want to go back just because they go back because they have family there. That's sometimes, I think it'd be a lot smaller percentage, especially when somebody starts a business somewhere else. Right. I mean, you'd think they'd wanna get their family out and bring, but anyway, the toll free number is eight, fifty five four fifty three more about the fall Venezuela in moments, it's free talk live. The Free State project has reached its goal of twenty thousand liberty lovers who've pledged to move to New Hampshire and get active to achieve liberty in our lifetime, perhaps you're trying to figure out what part of New Hampshire should be your destination. 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So if you exclude the countries that were just destroyed by bombs, and destruction physical, destruction by war, Venezuela is the worst collapse in the last several decades and we can continue with more about that here in a moment. Also wanna make sure that, you know about liberty dot menu. This is a place where you can go if you are a liberty minded person, meaning you are an individual who rejects the initiation of force, and that you agree. To abide by the ethics of the non aggression principle that describes you. Then you really ought to have the thing that you do listed over at liberty dot menu. It's a free business directory basically for libertarians volunteers liberty loving anarchists. And it's great. It's really easy to use impact. We talked about fork fast. The creator of liberty dot menu is a fort fest. Attendees names, Patrick, and he actually created an an event on liberty menu to which you can RSVP. 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There's the pro Madero pro government of Venezuela side. That's just like, oh, everything's fine here. Look at all the food on the grocery shelves. It's wonderful. And then there's the other side, which is the side that you see mostly which is that there's not much food on the shelves at all. There's it's hard to get the most basic food items the country, of course, is experiencing hyperinflation, and that's something they can't deny. Oh, yeah. And it's a mess. I mean, it is just absolutely horrible. Try to blame it on a guy running a website and Florida. He's, he's causing hyper remember, that's right. That's. It was Alabama the guy lives in Hoover, Alabama. And that's and he runs the website. Dot com. That's the site you're talking about rich and it is a very interesting site where it shows you basically, the inflation rate and give you the black market price of a dollar. So if you go into Venezuela, and you use the black market, you get way more boulevard for your dollar than you would, if you use an official place like a Bank or something are you looking at it now? Yes, What's the price of a boulevard right now? He boulevard Soberano, which is the third iteration of the boulevard in twenty years is currently five thousand seven hundred and personally five thousand seven hundred and six boulevards for one US dollar. How many again five thousand seven hundred and six while to one and that doesn't sound too bad until you consider that Venezuela has had at least two devaluations of their current three one. They one was ten to the third or a thousand they divided their currency number, but numbers by, and the other was tend to the fifth so that, right. B-. One thousand five zeros. Right. And so what that means is, if you went to bed with a hundred thousand dollars in your in your Bank account, or a hundred thousand Bulevar. Yeah. In your Bank account, you would wake up the next morning with one. It's crazy and just keeps getting worse. In fact, I'm trying to pull up the official exchange rates because the government sets a specific change rate, which is, of course in no way, shape or form close to what the reality is. And we'll find that for you later five thousand plus ten to the eighth. So we go on with be fifty billion comparing today's bar two or without the devaluations adjusting for the valuations Razi. So back to the story here from the New York Times on Venezuela's fall. First, we go to Tom in New Hampshire. You're on free talk live. Hello, tom. Oh, yeah. I dam and the chess board looking for an opportunity to do damage to the enemy, and I found a perfectly legal chess move when I got an Email from the government running, Dr nation center, the bureaucrats, tell us about the survey that students are going to be given on may twenty first and I look over the survey orm, and is asking, like are bullies picking on you. Are you getting beat up? Have you ever had? You ever been raped and stuff like that, and they need to know what allocate their resources to stop? That sort of thing you know, because that sort of thing is a violation of your right if they're doing that if, if people are doing that, and so that part of the survey didn't have a problem with, but then they're asking like about what kind of drugs, you're us, and whether you don't unprotected sex, and that sort of thing kids. A invasion of privacy at also. So what I did was I sent a letter to the Hudson Litchfield news, and it came out today. Did the closing paragraph says other questions are none of their legitimate business, personal drug abuse, which does not violate anybody's right? You want the state to prioritize Hudson and Elvin highschool for grants to crack down on such activities. Always answer that you never do those things. Let the enemies of liberty think they have one could total. They totally eliminate drug abuse in public school by eliminating public school, which is the orthodox libertarian. Solutia. Shooting issue to there's nothing. There's, you know, the these, these surveys are not being done like by being the my kids who don't care, and they're basically just bubbling in drawings, and stuff, as opposed to actually filling them out correctly. Remember me out of them. It's not accurate all or there's people don't care and they or their frayed of telling the truth. Right. Because you don't know they're monitoring, you kid is actually answered those questions. Honestly, there's some of them who have. But you don't know how many of them. Maybe. The it says it asks for ya. Height and weight like how tall are you? Maybe they're looking at obesity issue, but height and weight and does not allow you to use metric units. So what's up with that? You know, is that they try to harass people who prefer to trying to deprive future generations of the blessings of the metric system. You know, like totally wrong. And so, I think my letter will have ruffled a few feathers among some bureaucrats. Anyway, physics professor, tell us, we could use whatever units, we wanted on a quiz one time. So I turned it in with all of my velocity velocities, noted in Furlong's per fortnight. The two weeks. Right. For long. I don't know. I went, but given a book I can look it up. I had a we had to measure all this lumber and he said, no, metric Tom, no metric understand. Okay. No. Metric, and don't. How many gallons of would it was really blown his mind by telling him that every measurement is a metric, thanks for the call. Tom till free. Number here is eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. It's actually hard to find. During Tom's call I was looking at signed a converter between the boulevard Silverado and US dollar, and I haven't been able to find it yet all the even though the super on. Oh, the so-called sovereign boulevard been around for most of the year came in August of twenty eighteen a lot of these converters are still on the old pullover flirting which was the one that came prior to it. So it's actually really difficult. There's more coming up here in moments. You can share your thoughts with us fifty four fifty free like freedom. Our three is next. We have some good news the indictments against ROY, celebrate in the district of Maryland were dismissed with prejudice. 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Issued a disturbing new study this week calling conditions in women's correctional facilities to lure ably unsexy report contends that women's prisons, oblique dangerous environments, which shockingly few soapy showers and a typically charged pillow bites according to the prison Justice initiative, quote, it's a shame that into days society, we still had jails, don't encourage kitten go on good exploration, prison shouldn't be a hotbed of gang violence and drugs. It should be a steamy Shangri lower cage nymphettes, discover the sexuality away from the leering is male society. The investigation revealed living conditions that many are calling cruel and degrading, but not in a fun of kinky way. The studies also all use that incarceration should be about more than just punishment. To walk people in a box. It's never vied opportunities for naughty girls to play nice with each other. Scientists have reportedly thrown the kill for asthma onto the roof of the lab. We'll talk to the nerds struggling to retrieve it. Depp work. It's free talk live. You dial in free here. Eight fifty five four fifty free, of course, every time Venezuela comes up on free talk live. We also have to talk about the petro, or at least almost every time I it's an important ridiculous thing that has been going on where the government there has purported to have launched its own crypto currency. But so far, the evidence that this thing actually exists is scant at best we have yet to be able to actually talk to somebody. You had said that Chris read our Thursday night. Co host the ethic of. And he had installed the app. Yeah. But what apparently he didn't tell you when he tried to actually use it. He couldn't actually do anything with say that bones. I can install a copy of the app after the show made for the after show we'll all the app and see what it does. That's a great idea. Yeah. Got your pack. Grab your ten here jump in. We're going on an adventure in Arizona. 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