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Hour 1 - Eric Dickerson (08-12-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Hour 1 - Eric Dickerson (08-12-19)

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I still i think he holds the rookie single season rushing record and the all time single season rushing record that's held up for a long long time and for some reason there's certain numbers not many anymore stand out twenty one o five now. Would you use that as his security pin pin number. I'm wondering if eric uses that for his bank a._t._m. It's twenty one five and what was the other one eight hundred eight anymore. That's for sure. It did yeah all right if you'd like get in touch with the program every monday its best and worst through the weekend what you saw that you liked. You didn't like eight seven seven three d._p. Show email address dp. Dan patrick dot com twitter handle at ep show nice little rain here if you're watching on direct t._v. Audience channel two thirty nine. It looks like we have two the different shows here seton and paulie right there in front of me and then doubt here at the kitchen table make love and fritzy wherever here if you need is dan okay where around thanksgiving we're waiting for the chicken nuggets come through the little league table what happened. I have no idea did you guys secede from the union here. I don't know actually apparently they wanted to put it even further back behind that i did the math here. They're almost equally distant from you as we are actually closer to you than they usually. They're usually behind us and now they're closer <hes>. I don't feel that way but look. We're very inclusive here so i want you to feel like you're part of this team. Just for the record. I offered to swap spots spots with anybody. No takers really yeah. You liked that spot better than where you were. I'm just saying i mean we could switch it up. Actually i like to arrive and start complaining about everything. I have been doing all morning. I know why streak is intact to get coffee around this place like i'm like i have to rob to get a cup of coffee. Go left go right. That's the constant complaint for me at four in the morning. You came in here on fire i did. I was yelling at security guard. It's telling him where's the coffee. They almost blake escorted me off the premise. What's great to see you todd. I'm having a grand old time. I heard the food unfolds. You got to walk twenty steps to get to the food across to the other building stom- get why is that you created us divas. It's your fault that you're right. I did remember we didn't get food in the morning and then all of a sudden we found out rich eisen and staff and then we went well we want food. We demand like there's going to be a a walkout there and all of a sudden i heard from our bosses and they go okay. You get breakfast yes by the way we have a little. Mary hart entertainment an echo thing going on with fritzy. Were showing some leg out the ratings we can see fritzy's pasty white hairless legs feel about that <hes> i probably won't make much i contact with like one pair of jeans and everything else was like shorts advanced on basic instinct anthony crossing his legs as it air shirts can see too high. It's almost peter king asking oh man dan. I have underwear on so that helps member one. <hes> peter king was at indianapolis that super bowl peak came in looked like he had hot pants on ticket for that. I should like umbro's on remember those all biking shorts. We should've pixellated. I think part of his anatomy. There pete was on full display all right. We'll have a poll question. I love this show man wait. We're on yes. We are yes. We are all right so phone number eight seven seven three d._p. Show email address teepee. Dan patrick dot com. I mentioned the eric dickerson will join us chris harrison. He's the host of the bachelor. I think the bachelor is engaged. Chris harrison is engaged. I believe places got a serious girlfriend. He opened his heart to love finally yes. He did yes he. Did you kept telling him. How can you talk about those trying to find love. If you haven't found love yes paul did the bachelor franchise make a mistake by not having chris harrison as the the bachelor when he was single. Why didn't they do that. Did they. Consider it. Turn the tables and make him well. I wondered how he would do on the bachelor. I remember asking him that and and i didn't he said i want nothing to do with that. I mean wise fella yeah. I always i always amazed when somebody does <hes> you know trying to find love on the bachelor or bachelorette. I'm like yeah. That's usually where you go. I mean you're looking for love lasting sustainability. That's where i would go right right there yeah mclovin. Can i complain official again so i was the bachelor guy on our show and last night todd is listing off contestants on got caught up the last few episodes that got old dramatic and ever since the last year when one of them the bachelor climbed over the wall and they couldn't find him and all of a sudden you see hannah getting out of the limo. She can't take it anymore. You can't pick somebody. There was one episode where she couldn't get anybody arose. You fell. How were you now. You have to understand fritzy. Memorize is every beautiful local local news anchor. I do have my list you. You could run down the list of women who either they're in a market that you live in close spy. I think you get cable that allows you your your direct t._v. Allows you to get local markets the stalker package. Dan is very popular for local news jennifer if allama through connecticut from connecticut new york and now she's in l._a. For access hollywood extra extra yes yes so i try not to complain too much but i'm gonna complain now because we've only been on the air for five minutes and we've already been talking about todd's groin and now his <hes> bank if you will. That's way too much time no way too much for this early in the monday five minutes and we're going to be here all week. All right should probably pace ourselves. Okay thank you todd yes mclovin. Can you imagine if todd was the bachelor in an alternate universe my gun twenty five women wooing todd and he had to go on dates with them. That would be an entertaining show. Would you be willing to get divorced. I to go on the bachelor. I'm going to say the right thing. Say absolutely not but that's a very attractive what that's a lie it just imagine you watch that show every guy's fantasy that twenty-five no attractive women vying for your attention not seems like so much work pallet i would love to see todd go on twenty five different dates or whatever and everywhere he goes the first thing. They show us him looking for the bathroom. It's like excuse me for one moment. That's the tricky thing one on one conversation on the bench. You really need to talk quick and get it out. You know whatever they're interested didn't finding out about me before something wrong with you. He keeps going to the best always going to the bathroom yeah. I don't think he likes if i fell asleep thinking about it. I'm like blowing them off and i'm just like i'm making <unk>. Excuse no one goes to the bathroom that much a drug problem is there like joe is going to the bathroom. You're really using the bathroom that many we're spring. Starts is what happened. Yes that's a wild see. I can't imagine them getting any contestants on the bachelorette tower the bachelor they'd have to scour in all over the place round the world would if you showed fritzy when he was like eighteen or nineteen with with his shirt off had a full head of hair bait and switch them and he has yes and that shows he's the next bachelor and then all of a sudden the women go wait a minute a young woman. They go right back until the drive drive away. We'll come up with a poll question correct mclovin we will. I have a bachelor one not yet okay. Now you save that antonio brown making some hidden even caught a pass yet and this started on friday. We we weren't sure if it was real or not because when we were traveling paula goes <hes> hey this antonio brown story could blow up here a little bit with his helmet that he's not going to report because he wants to where his old helmet and i it was his feet now his head he certainly providing a lot of content this summer for the n._f._l. And you're not quite sure sure. I don't think he was going to retire but the new rules require this new kind of headgear here and he isn't comfortable with it. He said it hurt his. The line of sight made a little bit tougher for i understand it. It's like a hitter with his bat a guy with his glove. You know this is his helmet but this is all about safety here in the n._f._l. Is already paid out or is paying out or will pay out a billion dollars in safety and you know with helmet use and i think they're alter sensitive with this with antonio brown how this looks could he sign some kind of waiver that says i am going to play and i'm going to review <hes>. I'm going to acknowledge that. I'm going to take on all of the expenses and i'm going to waive any right for any damages. If something happens to me i mean maybe that's what would happen here but if you look at these headlines individually it's pretty interesting that it starts out with cryotherapy for the life of me having done uncrowded therapy. I can't imagine that there's a a rogue cryotherapy in france where you just walk in that. This is really a really lee syria unless there's a steeler fan who's running the cryotherapy chamber in france and go on this franko hairs. Krankl harris cryotherapy walked into you. Don't you don't need shoes here. You know just come on in no you're good and then he gets in there and he's got blisters on his feet and then the helmets situation here somewhere i t i text polyester somewhere mike tomlin smiling. He's probably our ben rothlisberger home gun. Thank drama ronna drama because they would have had to put up with this certainly with the helmet with the steelers and with what's happened with his cryotherapy because he was working working out in france and the off season mclovin. What kind of poll question do you start there. Do the raiders are already regret the antonio brown signing serious question. You think they're like what the heck did. We get into well. Did you see where jon gruden is these backing antonio brown and i'm thinking what other choice does he have here. I believe we have jon gruden and a he's standing by antonio brown but i support this guy and i think that's what needs to be said. I don't know what anybody's writing or what anybody what he thinks but this this foot injury wasn't his fault. You know this was a total accident as it was really wasn't his fault and it's an serious injury. I know some people are smarten martin at but it's really not a laughing matter. The guys is is was hurt. He's innocent. He didn't do anything wrong all right. He has to stand by tonio brown here. Yeah you do publicly to stand by this appear. Move here because i'm i'm guessing until neo brown might be a little sensitive and if you don't back vacuum that's where you come out and say this guy i got him. I got his back. Yes see what he said about. The foot. Injury seems pretty fair. Though it's an accident yes <music> but the helmet thing he should be in camp okay. He should be in camp used the old helmet until we solve this unless he thinks hey. I'm gonna i'm gonna take this to the next level. Defcon and i'm not gonna be there be there. You just got there with this team yeah mclovin. I've seen this movie. When i was an eagles fan. It was called the tarallo in story then rosenhaus another drew rosenhaus client. I mean it just one thing after another thing after another the thing i feel like if you ask raiders honest moment they'd be like. I don't know if we should done this because now gruden. Is everyone locker rooms watching him. Antonio brown isn't what that headache does. He no no because he's he's trying to build something here when they go to vegas and i was surprised they went after antonio brown but maybe getting antonio brown on to me. Derek cars really the one it's benefited from this because we haven't focused on derek carr. This is derek carr season because we're gonna find out whole lot about derek carr this this year and what the raiders think of him and that's what i think you know instead of focusing on that it's been on 'antonio brown. We'll check in with the raiders a little bit later on gave you the phone number number poll question mclovin. I got another option regarding our guest. This was a pre show debate which eighties running back eighties nineties running back. Would you want to replicate his running style. If you could tony dorsett eric dickerson marcus pre paulie made me throw in there earl campbell campbell. Would you rather be the straight up just run for eighty yard touchdown because we all are enamored with the old school running backs who used to break the long runs. Don't seem to exist any more boost the guy who is your guy well barry sanders sanders. I kept him off. He's he's a little later. I did this earlier. Okay generation right before barry sanders. There's is there a wrong answer here. No it's a problem. I love all these guys. I just loved earl campbell. It looked like a defensive tackle. Hackel had the football and he was running with a fumble he he attacked you. Walter payton attacked people. You know jim brown. Did you know we we had that certain style running back that they initiated contact because normally you think while you're waiting to get hit and some of these guys peyton would just give you that forum i mean he he would initiate earl campbell would initiate you had guys who if i'm a running back. I don't wanna get hit but you had certain guys who said i'm gonna use this as as an advantage inch yep oh but i don't think anyone came into the league ever like eric dickerson as far as like he had power speed cuts when he had the whole if there was any type of hole and he got through it he he was at full speed when he hit the whole he run track speed with two hundred and twenty pounds behind and you look at his rookie or people didn't know how to tackle them. If you went up high he had the power to shoulders. If you went low he can zip around you. The numbers speak for themselves. It was freaky well first of all he's six. Three and running backs aren't six three and he ran with an up upright style l. that you don't see normally. You're told to have low center of gravity. You know be lower than the guy tried to hit you and you know he ran and plus. He wore number nineteen. It was in nineteen just a bad ass number in college. He's nineteen. Cool is doug flutie wearing twenty two. Yes no i don't know. Can you do that now. Can you change in college. You could wear whatever number you want. Okay not in pro so eric had switched to the twenties in the number in the twenties i actually i loved dickerson so much at s._m._u. I made my mom call s._m._u. The athletic department and by me and eric dickerson jersey and they said we don't do that. We don't sell jerseys at the athletic department. They don't have a bookstore bookstore with his jerseys and i could buy one of the stock of eric's jerseys game dangerous. Those are expensive like the jerseys and it was like ninety bucks but these were mesh weren't they. Yes and they were kind of like belly jersey as he was showing off the apps back then and i bought one. My mom still has it at the house. I bought a real s._m._u.'s. They outlawed around the belly shirt in the n._f._l. Yes dion sanders could he did it at florida state and we got to the league said you have to have your jersey gin and you can't have it rolled under of your pads zeke elliott data the belly shirts making a comeback with zeke elliot he. He wears one doesn't he. He did it ohio state for sure. Yes yeah. That probably was just college. We'll check but i feel like he's always trying to show off that admiral but you had the mess jersey. Remember the tearaway jerseys eric dickerson had them and then also earl campbell texas. He had the mesh pulled off yeah. What other poll questions do you have by the way this program brought to you by truecar car. Shopping can be confusing terms like dealer price list price invoice voice truecar shows you what other people paid for the car you want so you recognize a good price when you're ready to buy a new or used car visit truecar enjoy more confident car buying experience. Yes mclovin so i have batra poll. I can hold onto if you want these. Once we start talking bachelor and we're gonna lose ready and our audience yeah we could talk if if you wanted to rookie quarterback because which one which one makes a pro bowl i daniel jones cuyler murray we saw dwayne haskins and by the way is through two picks but coach said he has a good chance to get in the mix now and my guy jarret stidham and will greer also had big weekend's kinda murray the caliber. There's no doubt well he starting now so he would be the leader in the clubhouse. The other guys aren't starting. What if we took him out of that. You're right what if we took him out of there. Is there any other the rookie quarterback because that was sort of a recap from week. One of the preseason jarret stidham look great. <hes> daniel jones look great. Is there anybody any any you think adding. These guys have cast a pop this year well daniel jones has to be really good and eli has to be really bad and then he gets a chance to play steadham is not playing in less brady gets hurt and then if you still have hoyer in there you know he's not going to be playing. Could he be the next jimmy g. where they groom into trey for thir- round pick well it depends on how long brady is going to stay there by the way did you see where brady was talking about selling his house. All play that for you coming up but said you shouldn't read too much into this because there's always this chatter well you could become a free agent or they could trade him and i went i can tom brady will retire a patriot. I mean a true patriot of course at volley goes if you could buy brady's house and you could meet brady and giselle at the closing yeah. I'm going asking price if i could meet both at the closing away the inspection not me. Tommy angie's l. no well. I've met tommy and been around giselle amongst yes amongst giselle yes. I wouldn't be able to buy that house without you. Know everything anything every time that you walk through and you do something there. You're like tom. Just did this to like you. Go into the bathroom and you're like tom scott. Are you go into the kitchen and you do. I know i know tommy yeah. Tony yeah all right twelve. We'll take a break eric. Dickerson will join us. We'll talk to him emma about these running back zeke elliott melvin gordon what kind of leverage the future the running back really because that every down back who's going to get the ball and run <hes> that's few and far between and the miracle that is frank gore house he still running the football so we'll catch up eric dickers- and he'll join us coming up next twenty after the hour here on the dan patrick show okay. This is just a thirty second commercial and i'm gonna throw a lot of numbers that you please please stay with me. In just fifteen minutes you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance the company that has been offering great rates and great service for seventy five years. It's geico. I've been using it for a long time myself and anytime you need help you could speak to one of their trains. 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He switch to geico and saved a bunch of money on car insurance so that was good and so was hanging with his grandson. The dan patrick show was sponsored by a._d._t. Real protection is the latest innovation in smart home security from a._d._t. With everything from video doorbells indoor and outdoor cameras smart locks and lights all controlled from the a._d._t. App or the sound of your voice you could even stay connected to your family and friends with the a._d._t. Go app including location sharing driving activity alerts and an emergency westbound that's a._d._t. Real production brought to you by a._d._t. He's eric dickerson hall of fame running back and he works for the rams vice. President of business development for times led the league in rushing and six time pro bowl running back. Thanks for getting up early and joining us here to see is is very early for me to say you look good. Though i'm tired i didn't want to oversleep oversleep. You look good. You look good but you know. What are you fifty eight twenty nine yeah well you look. You look like you could give me a couple of carries imitate then. I can give you one care. If they hit tried to hit me. I would like to receive as i would slide. It hurts. When you wake up in the morning <hes> everything my shoulder shoulder have a bad shoulder. I can't sleep on my left side. <hes> i told when i go to the bathroom go down some stairs in my bath in going to the bathroom so i have to walk sideways because i can't walk straight <hes> man i'm to everything i mean you when you plan n._f._l. For as long as respecting the time period i played you beat up and and you beat up pretty good. I tell people it's one thing to watch football on tv but if you went on the sidelines right in the different just the sound as alarming being in the speed and i thought if any parent was on the fence about letting their kid play football stand on the sidelines or don't don't but it sounds like crashes cartridge it is like car crashes <hes> first of all. My mother hated football. She said i hate that support. I suppose go cause you. Problems ladies should play baseball as part of baseball player but i like football because two girls like football players back in texas my job so i wanna play football so that's why i just love football play slip-on. Yes matter of fact <hes> back in those days. You have to have someone sign for you to play to play for. You know if you wanna play now and i can play the seventh grade. We didn't have popcorn in my little hometown so she said i'm not gonna sign. You can't play football. I said nope she say godmother so my godmother lived about one hundred yards away so i walked over to the house and i had you know my paper in my hand and i said i name was early early. In can you sign me to play football and she said <hes> so read more science nickname rear that she said no. She said you show you play what what does he yes ma'am okay. She signed. That's how i got a chance to play football so my mother was mad. She was like she signed play. When did you know you were good. Probably when i was <hes> i mean my junior senior high school you know i thought i was pretty good now. I think i was going to be bad like play pro football go to college and all that no i did not i didn't. I didn't think that i was that good but you know it's funny. How people see you and they see different. Guy my hometown outside on my own time. <hes> 'cause i quit football at one point and he can't be talked to me. His name was james avenue and i won't forget what he said he said eric say what do you see in this time. I say nothing exactly nothing in this time he said. Let me tell you you want the best athletes we've ever seen in these parts. I was a sophomore and he said really say yes. You should go back and play football and you you know the rest is kind of history but that's a long story but that's how i just went back to stop playing football again. Best game you had in highschool. Remember the stance. They championship <hes> i. I think they officially said it was two ninety. Six eleven yards and four touchdowns and you guys won state championship where were are you going to go s._m._u. Oh you oh that's easy. I'm still oh you fan. I'm still in oklahoma fan reason i. I didn't go once again. My mother went uh-huh. She wouldn't let me various house recruited me heavily you know which came mustache championship game and they came in the video to win the channel national the championship and i'm like oh i'm going. I'm committed and i won't get she was really quiet. She wouldn't say nothing so they gave them. They walked out. She said you're not going there. I'm like mama. Nope you're not going to. I'm like wow that bands alive and i don't trust him so i couldn't go. I had to tell him. I couldn't the new man i was so hurt but but marcus dupree your little bit older than more because i would have come after you came into candidate came out <hes> <hes> <hes> yeah i look at his career and i think well maybe maybe she's right. I think well you guys had a great team there. We got a great team. Great team teammates greg jamison. Mike my good friend craig james <hes> faster. You're craig joined me. I was come on come on how you sound it could craig. James was fast really okay all right down the team. It was three other guys faster to me. Craig james tells a different story. I know craig wouldn't say jersey number. You know i'd never wanted to be you like everybody else. I wanted something odd every did so when i pick number nine took nineteen. I didn't wanna take thirty two. I like o._j. Of jim brown i wanna take thirty four walton earl so i took nineteen in college and i got to the pro. Do you know how became number twenty nine w the story okay so. I wanted to be nineteen when i got drafted gratitude to the rams so when i show up to l._a. <hes> they have no one thousand nine hundred quarterback or even him. I said okay so numbers. You have their twenty five twenty nine nine forty five thirty two so i didn't say i don't want to be thirty to thirty four. I said attic twenty five so i take number twenty five and you look on draft day. I'm holding up number. Twenty five yeah hold on number twenty five so when i fly back to dallas that night my best friend we still best renshaw. They'd pick me up. He said would you take. I take twenty five twenty five. Ah slow but that's a slow number right that nobody seems slow. Wait wait wait wait. I'm just saying normal slowly. It looks low to me and then when he's really said it. Wouldn't that be saying. Why are you take one thousand nine. I told him. I couldn't take ninety when i told him. What number did you take twenty nine. I'm like oh yeah so the. I cannot asleep that night. I never looked at number now. Don't drive. You'll see you know that. Twenty nine looks faster than twenty-five you see like thirty. Three years is slow number. That was not running back so you don't mind is a fast like a number of the now my favorite anyway so anyway. Let me put this to store okay so anyway anyway so i i when i when i i called back to the rams and the next day because i cannot sleep that night thinking about their number there that's crazy so cost say mr hewitt. I need to change my number. He he said eric holder number twenty five times. We can't change them. I say you know what i'm not coming in. You'll be twenty nine when he's eric dickerson hall of fame running back joining us here in the richardson studio. You look at the the future of the running back because it's going to be hard to find a hall of famer as a wide receiver because the numbers are so crazy but then the running backs the numbers are going to be less than probably what they were. You know predecessors here. How do we assess what is a hall of fame now with the running back when you look at a guy and you just say his name and you're like oh the hall of fame i mean i it's just it's you. You don't have to go well. Let me think i mean i just feel i can you say a name you know. Autumn frank gore hall of famer <hes> he could be but i guess there we go again. This is because he has a long career. That doesn't make you a whole shame. Not really. I don't think i liked to i'm elliott makes guys hall of famers to me is is when they have to gain implant for you. Yeah they set the game. Plan is like hey you. Let this guy loose on us. He's going to hurt us or defensive player on offense. If player when i think you guys and like i think of lawrence taylor i mean no doubt hall of famer and i think a walter payton no doubt hall of famer jim brown no doubt hall of famer when i think of even dexter dexter manley the demos he's my cousin hall of famer but he's not in in because he was a guy can think and we played the risky and they were like do do not let him loose help the tackle if you can and that's how that's how you to me you've got a guy not make him guy thing. I'm saying when you say is a hall of fame because because of the way you played against an end if you had the game plan for him he li- manning hall of fame. I don't know about okay then that's. I'm not quarterback i i can't but if we're using the always go let him on a super bowl that don't mean nothing. I mean this guys that played on some bad teams. Yeah i mean some really bad teams and they didn't win super bowls. I mean you know dan marino the hall of famer but he found some not great team but dan made those teams. I mean made the team. I i mean so you've got to look at that. Who's the best defensive player he played against man. It was so many different eras different positions are played against jackson. I mean i think people don't realize how great rickey jackson i mean. Hard got a block them almost impossible for an offensive backed up his biggest lawrence taylor ronnie lott <hes> kinney easily can easily broke my hand right here on monday night football game. I never forgot it. I mean i'm gonna hit. The sea hawk colors on my hand. I'm like here. We played football the ball out here. It was just kind of block it but i mean ronnie but ronnie lock could put a little posting on. You got me good one time he really. I got into play. Where a matter of fact. I have a picture of my homeless a great looking shot. I'm jumping overpowered. I'm looking. I'm looking at these guys coming here but i'm looking at him because he's flying added me. I mean let me just got into a fight altercation like a couple of plays early and i'm trying to get back on the ground before my p._t. Rio case but luckily flack jacket so he hid me he's got you and i won't get bergamo called a rump dog. You've got to throw it. He got me. They took the does zeke elliot have any leverage here most definitely most of all zeke is the best player in the cowboys football. Yes i mean he really is the sad thing about this is that they tied these running backs up there and this is not even jerry's fault. You hear me says jared. It's not zeke's fault. This is this bad c._b. Negotiated with tamara samantha done a horrible horrible job. How can you tie running back up for billy billy seven-year. Let's be on five years. You've got the rookie four years. You got an option you can. You can franchise tag him. If i'm jerry i'm like if he wants to make you play in our day. They would just make you play out and then get rid of you. I mean there's nothing guaranteed but you see. I mean you can't do that because it's not fair. It's not fair to zeke. It's really not fair to him. I always say look. Let them play having to using it off in arbitrated let it he's played to contract play. I mean because in basketball and baseball is ball. They don't have to worry about it. It's funny how you know they'll say oh. He got one hundred million dollars in football. You got one hundred twenty million dollars. I not guaranteed. Let's get married right and baseball might trout four hundred million. Nobody says a word because his baseball look at zeke situation and i. I wonder the value value of him. I think doc needs him. More cooper needs him but that offensive line is great and jerry. Jones is not getting any younger so that's that's the part where i think he's got leverage bridge. That jerry knows he's on the clock to try to win a superbowl way one of the cloud yeah yeah but but you know the team is is better with zeke. Trust me that without zeke. That team is is average. I mean the cowboys are running football team. They run the setup everything else i mean they really do take zeke zeke away. I mean but also if you look at this eric you they're. They're rare that they they're run first team in today's n._f._l. It feels like everybody is passed. I passed a second and then you know. The only thing is that people always say well. It's not no it's not running back and running back to get it going downhill this in the n._f._l. Even going back to our our day my day it was only four or five top running backs in the league at one time maybe six but that's about it still the same thing now. If you have a top bag atop top running back you're gonna use him. Zeke you have todd gurley saquon barkley lady unveil those toes of the top guys in the in the national football league they we are <hes>. I like the guy san diego melvin gordon. I like him. I like him a lot thing about not a quarterback position. It's pretty much the same. You have four to five five. Maybe six top quarterbacks the rest of them are average or you got a bunch of bombs but the quarterback you gonna pay him because he's the quarterback but he's the boom. We always still got a pen. The quarterback can make twenty million twenty five million dollars and be like man. What is he looking at me. Throw the football but running. Let him backhand do that. I mean and that's why is it's different positions but you have to. I would say they should have struck running back now what strikes for quarterbacks and pam different but guarantee take a guy giving running back to you option two after two years arbitrators yeah we brought it up a couple of weeks ago that why not just have the quarterback is going to be separate from the salary recap and also running backs. Maybe three years when they first come into the league has just to be fair to that position because that's the one i would load up. I if you were my running back and i'm taking you second overall. I'm going to replace you in five years you. You're gonna be the u._p._s. done in five years. I mean unless you force him. You might play six seven avenue. That's on that same football team. I mean i think about my first year. I think i cared about three hundred and eighty times and that was my rookie the next year at four hundred and four times i i mean you know only have so many have so many care only have so many cares and you know the thing is people always talk about. <hes> you know the spoiled after lisa lisa. Let me tell you something. It's no such thing trust me when you if i could put you in this body and let you try to maneuver around after plan in the national football league. He was like you could play away man. I am so be the hell up. I mean really bad. I mean you just don't know i mean i could tell you then after my when i retired from football for almost two two years i had to sleep sitting up in a chair like this. I couldn't lay down because my neck my i had to sleep in the sitting position is horrible but see people know that you know they think the money the money and say oh. You knew what you were getting yourself into. How do you know seven to twenty one years old back in one thousand nine hundred eighty three. I mean even now twenty one year. Old doesn't know what they're getting seven to in two thousand nineteen so i mean it's just it's different if i gave you a mulligan football football oh you did all right. I'll tell you i'm gonna tell you something. You know. People always ask the question. You know i'm i'm. I better give you an example. What happened we we did. We did a thing at super bowl and there was five of us on the panel hall of fame guys all the guys you know. What is your passion you know. What is your passion. Now blah blah passion guys you know they gave good answer some some. Maybe had a passion for you know i would think some guys political answers but and they say you know what is your passion and i say i'm going to be honest with you. I said to me i've done things outside of football. Good you make money and all that kind of stuff. I say but as a passion nothing has replaced playing football nothing. I don't care what i've done in my life when i go back to when i started coming in the pros i love that sports so much i mean i can. I just love going to practice. I love the smell melody air. When it's football season you can you just knew it. I just like i just l- i loved everything about it. I mean everything about football. I mean and i think that's the reason tom brady keeps playing because he just loves loves it that much and if you can you do it i mean it's like being a kid still all over again but it comes to a point where you know. You have to stop playing for me. You know it was it. It was heartbreaking but it it is what it is. Since you work for the rams. Let me hit you with the rams question very rare for a team to go back to the super bowl certainly to win or even go back after after having lost the super bowl what would be the big reason why the rams wouldn't go back to the super bowl injuries injuries play a big part of any full you concern about todd augulis knee. No not really <hes>. I mean todd was good for that game too. I talked before the game and night before the game and i said we don't really own football we am. I said we're supposed to run. It and we didn't want it. I mean one thing about every coaching. I love shopping but he's no different any other coach in n._f._l. Right now they love throwing the thing look how smart i am late i mean he he's played the crepe place. Yeah i mean but ryan football's not popular. I mean it's not popular you know it takes time but i'll say four is getting back. I think i think injury plays a injuries play a big part of it. You know join the continuity with the players but one thing i like about our football team is that they're very close. They remind me of the team. We had an eighties real close knit football team but injuries if you if if you go if you don't get banged up they have a good shot of going back jared goff a franchise quarterback <hes> i would give him another year i mean for you want to see another year. I wanna see another a year. Yeah i just believe that there too quick to pay these these. They want to pay the rent wanna play. The quarterback got one. Oh we got to pay no doubt hey a._m. In mexico what happened our franchise hypothetically <hes> if i gave you one carey in those four guys here had to tackle you what what about me i was like oh you wouldn't take you look at the let me see i mean come on wanted to write. He might be a little problem but these on the left are now good. I take no party can take you know let you know part of this really win. Like any part of this and that's usually the guy that town intimidating the guy that you could tell you could run over. You know you could tell he just got. He do all the talking. It's like poor up to you yeah. That's great. Thank you thank you for getting up the grade eric dickerson joining. Yes we'll come back. We got our play of the day right after this jordan here. I know a lot of you. Create your own podcast and in a lot of you already have one like me. I obviously love what i do. It's taken a lot of hard work to get to this points of success. You shouldn't have to pay fees for platform hosting distribution analytics or fees to create a podcast. You need to be able to focus okasan producing the best show possible now podcast one. That's a network i'm on. They have a launch pad digital media or launchpad d._m. 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RD - Floyd 2019 Arrest Video In, Two Jurors Out

Reasonable Doubt

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RD - Floyd 2019 Arrest Video In, Two Jurors Out

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But now you know i cannot tell lie. So a marker. I know a lot of stuff going on this week. So let's just jump right into it. Where do you wanna start. Well as we literally as gary and i were setting up here. The judge ruled that. He's not going to delay george sheldon's trial and their defense derrick derrick. You're right Chauvinist trial and the defense had asked for a delay or a change of venue. Based on the announcement of the twenty seven million dollar settlement turns out that as they were having the hearing today they the city or some of the city members. Were doing a press conference as well. Which i think annoyed this judge immensely. Who keeps saying. I wish they'd just keep their mouth shut and he admitted that he may have had some judicial bias in that he didn't think the announcement of the settlement would affect jurors and already had excuse two of the jurors based on the fact that they had heard about it and it did make them believe they couldn't be fair but has denied the motion for change venue and has denied the motion to continue but in a very significant development. He has now ruled that he's going to allow in these circumstances around George floyd twenty nineteen arrests. And i think jerry's got part of that body don't you gary. Yeah let's We'll look at that. One will listen to it. What is the giving The settlement the twenty seven million bucks What is the strategy. I know you smoke about it. It's the try to appease the sort of mob but it does make it more difficult in terms of executing the trial. You know just weeks later. What is the is it an intentional strategy that they think about how it would affect the trial they claim they meaning somebody from the city that they talked to the chief judge they stay court judge who gave them the go-ahead trial judge's stated on the record that he denies that and Frankly that would be an ex parte day communication anyway which i think would be somewhat inappropriate but having said that. It's awfully reminiscent of what then. Da jackie lacey. Did the first day of harvey weinstein's trial where she announced the charges in california. I always say if you've got three hundred sixty five days and you pick a certain day and it happens to be right in the middle of jerry selection. That does not seem to me to be coincidental and by the way i think. The judge also mentioned in his understanding that the settlement isn't even finalized yet that still subject to the federal courts approval which makes a whole lot of sense. And if that's the case in it's inexplicable as to why they why they decided right now in the middle of jury selection to make that announcement you know it could cut either way. I could make an argument that it doesn't help the prosecution. You could make an argument that somebody if they're on the fence would say to themselves. You know the families got twenty seven million reasons why they should be happy. You know i. I may not guilty as the defense lawyer. It would drive me crazy Because i would say. Twenty seven million dollars the largest pre-litigation settlement of a civil rights case Can't have anything but a deleterious effect. That's what the judges found in practice. Do you have that tape from two thousand. And nineteen i do. I just wanted to go ahead and set this up. The tape in full is about twelve to fifteen minutes depending on which news outlet you use isolated about five seconds. That is the portion that mark has thoughts wants to comment on. So i'll play that guy and this is admissible now korea. He's ruled that he's going to admit this. Why why did he rule. That i lurk. He's trying to we. Are we gonna start gary. I'll tell you this is what i think. The argument is by the defense that they That he george floyd has got a modus operandi modus operandi is to ingest the a whatever he's carrying a and that would be the reason for the debt so they're gonna they're going to say that this is admissible to show whenever he gets pulled over by the police he ingests whatever drunk. He has honor. Okay well let's see it and then we'll we'll get into the questions. Put your hands on the dash. Last time i'm going to tell you that it's simple. I got to ask around. Won't listen to what i have to say right here on your head. Open your mouth as you love me house were. you'll be okay no fl coming out janitor. Okay relaxed you're not going to get beat up for nothing. Well what we're asking you to do about assessment. So it's a little harder here there but about fifteen or twenty seconds into that you hear the cop shouting at him to sit out what you got. They had him put something into his mouth after they had made contact with him and they were telling him to spit it out or they were gonna take them right. So sounds like ju-. Here's something to where i thought i heard. It's just a little yellow pill. Yeah hearing fast. When i said yeah so your reaction to having seen that and put yourself in the jury and tell me what your reaction to that. It's once you see that well my reaction would start a toggle back and forth between the case. We all have seen footage of the case. Were discussing in front of us and then this thing that happened. What a year earlier ear and a half earlier. I don't know how was this could have been nine months earlier. Gary what the date was of this. But i don't know if it's a one year earlier so i would be saying. He seemed so completely out of it in a in a in a few state when they were trying to get him into the cruiser in in the case that. We're now deliberating if i'm a juror Seems so insanely add a control. Could he have been that way when he walked into the convenience store and tried to pass the twenty dollar bill or whatever. The story was so i. I don't know so it's been what fourteen months or i don't know what the date i don't know the approaching twenty two months since the video twenty two months we'll may twenty twenty one two months from now right well. This happened in twenty. I'm sorry i thought you were asking about the date of the video. Just watch which was how far the to hear about twelve months a year part okay so a year earlier he he did this and then i would speculate that if he was in good enough condition to kind of walk into the convenience store and try to do whatever and he was a state a condition that when the cops roll up on him. Maybe he did this thing again. Maybe he ingested these drugs that were on them and thus that's why he sort of went nuts when they were trying to get him into the squad car because he seemed completely out of his mind at that point was he completely out of his mind when he was walking in a convenience store. Now i don't if there's video surveillance footage but if i was defense i would say well look at him. You walk down the street. He walked into the store. He had a conversation with the guy behind the counter. He got a mentos he walked out then when he saw the cops he did what he does. He's always caring. He took all the drugs and shoved them in his mouth and then at some point when they're trying to get him into the car the drugs kicked in he went berserk. And now what what are we to do. And then you've got the notes from the coroner which says if he had been founded home i would have ruled it as an accidental overdose which the corner i assume is not going to run away from and you combine those things and it becomes a harder decision for the defense as to whether they put shopping on The now you've got a a narrative that you can tell that you could raise a reasonable doubt and so far given the jury the jurors who have been selected this thing lines up for a hung jury. I think as of right now. I i still do not understand why. The prosecution is fighting against a continuance. At this point. If i were them i would embrace a continuous i if they really wanna conviction. I i'm perplexed. Why would you embrace a continuance. If i'm the prosecution. I need to deal with this. Twenty nineteen And i need to. I need to recalibrate. Some speak. And i want i may want a different jury i. I'm not so sure that the book if they were picking the jury part of what you have to do the analysis you doing. You're picking a jury is. What is the evidence. Look like that video to me is. It's really depends on the The prison that you're looking through. I can see somebody who would look at that and say oh. What are these cops doing. Why did they have to threaten teasing. Somebody sitting in a car is not doing anything. I can see another person looking at it. And saying quite the opposite and so i would have wanted to have that piece of information in my brain as unquestioning people looking at their questionnaire for me. If i'm the i'm the defense whether there's footage of him popping pills in his mouth or or whatever it is i just go. Here's this guy's history when cops. He's he's always carrying drugs and when cops roll up on him he swallows all the drugs. This is a drug overdose case. He essentially poisoned himself by taking enough fennel to kill an elephant. All at once you know maybe he was walking around carrying it was gonna take throughout the day but when the cops showed up he throw it all nece mouth the coroner reports clear. they would've called it Overdose death and he's right that's what he did. He essentially poisonous right. That's that but that's you know that's could be too old white guys who view it through our prison. The you know there is a argument. And i could see where there would be jurors who would say. This is typical of what the cops deal. They always deflect assassinate the character baba. I my point i guess is i. If i'm the prosecutor this is not helpful in the least to to the case And and i think. I remember the you and this is what it reminds me in some weird ways of. Oj jury selection or marsha and she would she gets mad at me. Whenever i say this but marsha always took the position that she had such great success with did its unequivocal that. She had great success when she was in hardcore. The da's office with african american jurors and she got convictions when nobody was getting convictions. In the criminal courts building but that did not translate into the oj. Case and you. People didn't under- prosecutors. I don't think are underestimated the The narrative of race in the fact of race in that house. Something you have to consider as far as marcia clark in the success in the african american community i got say that's in large part due to her jerry curl that she used to wear. She looked like a young eric. Dickerson out there. So that could have been it. You know how many people how many people listening to this or watching. This are going to have any idea what you're talking say that that is a beer inside about his inside baseball. As those ever been eric first of all eric dickerson eric. Dickerson walk and marshes luck. Free the rhythm makeover marsh. I love you if somebody clips this insensitive. I love you and i. i've always said one of the great trial. Lawyers not hammering. You're just making my observation. Which i know you disagree with and as a rams fan i can tell you being compared to the great eric dickerson. It's never slap in the face can you. Can you name the the number of yards for that breakthrough season of his while. He went over two thousand. And i think -ironically. I think he beat. Oj's record live. Went over turnout to one thing. Think each thousand seventeen. But gary. I was thinking two thousand and eighteen. I have no idea why. But now jared now jerry. Gerry jerry curl. You're welcome. i stand by this. My jerry carl assertion. I mean they're they both have the same hairdo. I would if i was in the african american community and somebody walked in with that kind of jerry. Carl i i would be more prone to vote their way. Yes we'll put this up or we put it up on. Oh you can go watch on youtube and you'll see that or It'll be up at reasonable doubt. Podcast off some of my files. I would say the exact same haircut. I i wouldn't say it's a marginally different haircut. I would say this is nuts and bolts the same haircut. I would agree now. Started working on what year those yards. Okay so yes. You're all welcome for my observation now. The thing that's comical is marcia clark now has straight hair and eric dickerson has no hair. So they're both as far away from their previous hair is is they could get a you know you're the smithsonian when you pass needs to embalm your brain and and somehow hopefully by then fifty years from now. There's a way to push on the braid. Certain points at get these insights. Well thank you. That is high praise from someone with a brain who should also next to my brain in the smithsonian twenty one hundred and five yards eric. Dickerson had one you wind and five. Wow yeah i would a sword. It was twenty something. I would have thought it wouldn't have gone twenty one to but i think he broke. Oj's record in one thousand nine hundred eighty four so this is again a full circle conversation now. If i was the defense. Sorry if i was the prosecution and the chauvin trial i would take the drug argument and i would steer it back at them. I would say clearly. This person is on something clearly. This person is out of their mind. Clear rose persons incapable of following instructions. And you throw them on the ground and put a knee on their neck teasing that after this. Heiko you own or write your home. Sure you do. I and i bet it can be hard work. You know it is. I mean i always say owning a home. It's like being janitor you know what's easy bundling policies gyco gyco makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy go to geico dot com. Get a quote. See how much you could save. Its geico visit geico today. That's geiko dot com. That's interesting that geico is a sponsor. 'cause i read something about warren buffett is a young man going to gyco offices and basically talking his way in so that he could meet the ceo in he met. I guess they're adna audience with the assistant of the of gyco and he could have changed. The arc trajectory of his investments and now today is berkshire. Hathaway owns gyco one hundred percent. I thought that was interesting. Little then yet. Sorry about that too gary. all right. so you're gonna dress. You saw the prosecution. I just. I worry if you want if you are a cheerleader for the prosecution that they don't understand that man it's to nimble or nuanced of feet for that but i'm the idea that the prosecution would embrace a bad fact in turn it against them. I'm just not so sure. They're adapted that because clearly what you have argued is what i constantly argue in these wrongful death civil rights cases that we have the office that in eighty percent of those cases you got. Ptsd the afghan or iraq war veteran who is now a cop who gets triggered very easily. And then you've got a somebody with a mental illness or mental challenge and instead of de escalating the situation. They escalated and they escalated. Because they're coming from a viewpoint where that's basically all they don't want to do in the municipality doesn't train them well and so and you can hit these guys for verdict. The verdict if you can ever get past qualified immunity and it doesn't matter because they don't learn and if they don't learn how's the prosecution gun alert and the prosecution by the way just has sold little aptitude for prosecuting cops. That it they looked enact. Or they look inept well in this case if you're the prosecution you don't want to lean into the drug use. You're going to have a hard time getting away from it because of the coroner's report right. So the the this doubles down on. So the twenty eight right that arrest so the defense is going to bang that drum over and over and over again that this was a drug overdose and so you're not going to be able to get away from the drugs because of the two affirmation situations we just talked about. So if you can't get away from them. I would lean into them and go. Yeah he was an addict he had a problem. He needed help. Not he didn't need a knee on his neck. He needed help. And you guys did not offer that. Help you you exacerbated. You were the proximate cause of his death. I having me on there. And by the way the twenty the twenty nine hundred if you're a prosecutor You obviously don't want it in but now that you know that it's coming in whole or in part you need to deal with that and the way to deal with that as you say is the lean in but to lean in a couple of different ways. Number one is as you said Look this guy. This guy is compliant. He what he wanted to go same thing a year before. What is it. Show that he's compliant. He wasn't fighting. You put his arm run. Did he do it as quickly as the cops wanted to. Of course not because they the cops are always in a high state of agitation. And that's the that's how they act but by the way he readily admitted i just took. What did he say a really ill. Yeah yeah. I mean that's to me. That's the fact that he so readily admitted that and the fact that he was fairly compliant in the fact that these there was also the white versus african american on the previous take. You can't get away from that Did i went to get some white officer. Who's politic eyadema's cars minding his own businesses. He's sitting in the passenger seat. I never understood why that requires all of this hullaballoo in escalating to defcon five. I just that if you live in certain challenge areas and have had the experience. You're going to say to yourself why why is. Why are we raising this thing up to a level like this. Why didn't we just guy to step out of the car. Put your hands behind your head and boom and do we have to scream and yell and you know. It reminds me of some of your observation on other tapes. We've had where the command officer is gone crazy. Yelling out commands. Does the now. We're going to allow this tape from two thousand and nineteen in into the Body of evidence. Does this mean we've opened the door for other transgressions. Vis-a-vis the law. And if you're yeah this is where the defense lawyer is going to be joined calibration depending on how that jury looks and by the way he's going to be doing some eric nelson deleted his name and so far i think he's done a a more a better than workmanlike job. He's got. He's talented me spots the issues. And he's right there and he doesn't back down the any does what a good criminal defense lawyer does. He holds the prosecution accountable. That's their job. That's our job so he's going to be doing. Constant calibration is out. What is my first of all. What is my jury mcclay. Do i have a shot at an acquittal. Because i can't tell you the number of times that i picked the jury and i knew i had no shock added acquittal and i've often said you've heard me say i don't care if you You re animate disney. Style clarence darrow. You're not going to change twenty thirty forty fifty years worth of somebody's life experiences over the course of a trial. They're going to look at the thing the way their condition to look at the evidence. So you should know if you are a observer of the human condition whether or not you're ever going to be able to sell a your narrative your version of what happened to these procedures if you're not if you make the determination i've made this determination probably fifty times and i probably had it. I'd never tallied it. But i would say i've had in excess of fifty hung juries out of all the trials i've done in usually i know when i've aiming for a hung jury and when i'm aiming for during meaning i know i'm not going to get an acquittal. You you tailor your arguments to the jurors that are going to hold their ground. One of the questions. I often ask in jury. Selection is also look ladies and gentlemen if i want you to fast forward six weeks from now after you've been sitting mistrial trial. The judges told you to go deliberate. It's friday at three o'clock. That's bewitching hour for jerks. You're the one it's eleven to one against you. I don't care which way you're voting. Are you going to hold your ground as that one juror or are you going to just say. I'm not coming back here on monday. I'm outta here. I'm just gonna change my vote and that is a very telling question and more importantly answer that you wanna hear because if you get people who say no i wouldn't change. I understand what my oath is. What my duty is a by the way there jury instructions that. Tell them that's what they're supposed to do. And you're aiming for a hung jury. There may be a world in which chauvin does not take the stand because the defense thinks that they don't need him too and that's out boy and a lot of ways because reminded you always have the specter of the federal grand jury In the background here. And that's something you have to consider. Yeah well let's talk about the federal grand. Jury does that factor in. Let me tell you exactly how factors in finally today. Somebody just sent me an article from usa today. I believe If i'm wrong. I apologize but all the sudden it's clicked in people's heads that this trial could be reminiscent of the officers at rodney king's case right. We've been saying that along on this show. of course it around madness and it's The you couldn't get any more An history repeating itself in in that case once the officers got a change of venue to simi valley. We say so but it was seamy valley and they were acquitted than the feds came in retried and they got convictions on. I believe two out of four now here. The prosecutors know that may know their history doj as already convened if you believe published reports a federal grand jury that is apparently taken evidence. My guesses if there's an acquittal or on jury they're ready to indict him almost immediately now. Why is that important. That's important because if he if chauvin takes the stand his sworn testimony can be used against them in the federal case and so you have to make a calculation and by the way. If you don't think that these lawyers and eric nelson is making this relation let me give you one back. That will put the light of that. Apparently also it's been reported as there was a tentative plea deal for chauvin where the state was offering ten years and he was willing to take however is lawyer. And i'm assuming it's nelson. I've never met ever talked to him. So this is my opinion but his lawyer wanted it to be wrapped up with federal coverage. He didn't wanna pleaded state court. And then nab his client marched over to federal court in doubly prosecuted and apparently bill barr as one of his. I know axe rejected the idea of giving him coverage thyroid. That tells you all you need to know you can't you cannot have your client take the stand in the state case with the federal in the lurking in the background. While i'm gonna tease this. 'cause i got a spot but i would imagine the feds would just be watching the trial. And if they get to. The end of the trial in chauvin is not found guilty. Would they still make the decision to move ahead. If they seen enough evidence to convince them that they essentially had the same case which may not be a good case i. I'm curious how that works. I let me tell you about audible. Leading provider spoken word. Entertainment largest selection of audio books bestsellers celebrity memoirs languages. business motivation. and more. Listen while you're working from home cooking exercising walking the dog or just relaxing as a member. 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Are there thing though and they look putting on my criminal defense chat. And i will say that. I don't care which way you view this prosecution however there is something fundamentally unamerican and undemocratic about the idea that you're getting kind of body checks by having the feds in the background you know they could be the grand jury. Do you know if you have any success. If your defense they can come in and Basically cleaning clean up the prosecution by prosecuting you again. I just think that's been we unfair. And by the way i say this is someone who rarely defense cops i always find that depending copses akin do defending republicans though offense but the the the idea of just from a a a due process a point of view. I just find it to be a offensive. That you're telling me that i got worry if i'm the client. Can you imagine in take out of this. Just say it's somebody else who's being prosecuted. Some port some poor kid who's being beaten up by some prosecutorial bully in a prosecution. And i'm telling him and he says i'm want take the stand and i tell this poor kid. I don't want you to take this disdain. Because the feds are watching. And if you make a misstep and we can win the battle here the state court case in loose the war the federal Most people say that that makes no sense. That's unfair that's a violation of double jeopardy. That's i always learn. Listen civics class. I does feel like double jeopardy and it also feels a little arbitrary like the feds are going to hang out. And there's some cases they're gonna focus on and then others they're not gonna focus on. I mean how does that work well that that could be the subject of the complete show because one hour because the idea of what attracts the attention. And how decisions are made you want to and you hope and i would say in a in a lot of cases most cases that prosecutors try to do the right thing i mean. I hope that. If they didn't i would i don't know our sleep at night or get up in the morning But there are out liars in the outliers are what drive you crazy. If you do the work that we do it. The firm everyday the outliers are the people who you know. There is kind of a revolving door from us attorney's offices to large firms where a us attorney will score a high profile conviction and before the ink is dry on the jury. Verdict they entertained an offer to leave the office and make a second figure salary. At a a large you know big firm that kind of revolving door people talk about others but back. There's something offensive about that well. How does the fed put on a case. I mean if there is no new evidence after the first case right there is. i don't know they they. This is the problem in the federal criminal justice system. And i've talked with many a federal district court judge about this jury. Trials are almost extinct. You're you're more likely to hit the lottery then to get a federal criminal jury trial and there's a reason for that number one the minute you go to trial whatever offer that has been made is pulled off the table and remind you know remember prosecutors in the especially in the federal system have complete control over what you're offered number two if in a trial you wanna take stand in testify will guess what federal court if you testify and win. That's great if you testify and lose you just violated. The acceptance of responsibility and most judges will randomly. You lose three levels there. But god forbid though say you obstructed or did something else and you get a little. As one federal ex-federal district judge you get taxed tip in service charge get five levels on the sentencing guidelines. It's it's russian roulette literally with that. I know some guys get mad when they say literally but it is rushing roulette from criminal justice standpoint. It there are very few people who have the The guts to challenge the feds in that system because the prosecutors hold so much power. Well so let's get into some predictions. You think the trial that were speaking about not the federal trial We feel like that's a hung jury situation so right now as we speak. I think they're still selecting and they're still two spots. Open an judges given a couple of extra primary challenges. I think the prosecution and maybe to the defense still as of right now. It looks like hungary. Beat that can change depending on. Who gets removed. Gary i he revoked to people today. I sent you an update right. Yes he did that's careers. That's and that's on top of the two that were removed after last week settlement announcement. Well if it's a hundred of it's a hung jury like oj asari like cosby will they write retry it. Well and that's interesting too if it's a hung jury will the state retry it. I think we have to wait and see out the prosecutors. Do if the prosecutors do a workmanlike good job than my money would be on. That they would retry. If it looks like the prosecution of george zimmerman which was a prosecutorial clown. Show than i doubt it. I think the feds were just come in. Do you think that keith. Ellison who's the da who saji are sorry attorney general. Who does have seems aspirations to move. Move up and move on. Do you think he would do it. Sort of like the g of Pennsylvania philadelphia whatever who said We're gonna do. A second round with cosby would seem seemed to be more of a political thing than a practical matter. Cosby's we could talk for hours about that too and that you the fundamentally the problem there was how in the world do does bill cosby do a deposition fifteen years before relying on the da. Him that they're not going to prosecute him criminally and then because some guy wins a. Da's election they renege on that promise in. They use it against him. 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Full Show (Cowboys lose, Patriots dominate, Eagles eliminated, Chiefs roll, Kyler Murray)

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Full Show (Cowboys lose, Patriots dominate, Eagles eliminated, Chiefs roll, Kyler Murray)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host, Jenny Taft. This podcast is the full show. From today's episode of undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate. So skip Shannon. Let's get to it. Good morning. Welcome to undisputed. We are live from allay, Johnny taffy. Aw, jiting. How do so? I guess, Shannon. Sharpe is celebrating the demise of his Super Bowl pick the chargers. I guess he's celebrating the goat -ness of Tom Brady. Did you see that? We talk about all their steam go to talk about. By the charge. You talk about Tom Brady. Oh, how we starting in type Judy. How how what did you do Saturday night? I went to the game. Don't you ever go to another cowboy game? Know what about the Cowboys matching luggage Cowboys needed some luggage because they cleaned up the block of the date really snoop weight or those for the chargers to bring charges. I don't know still there right back. Newton told me he gonna come and see you the week, but he sent me some anti gravity genie. Yeah. We coming down from the clear. Ain't got lucky. We don't test on this show. What s for you know? What are you Ginny? Yeah. A lot of my followers skills. They were showing you always have this. And you don't have anything for the women. So I got right here club chez, we all look shape. Really? Well, you must have fewer followers left, and you do have Super Bowl picks. Your the be going on night. Really? So I did I feel Bayless tonight's let-up about about it. Let's talk about. I wanna talk noble. I got good trash bag will never learn. You don't bet against that guy. Do and I will again. Yeah. Now guy Tom Brady still looks like the goat. And then he is the go. Nick foles magic. But we do have to start with the cowboy fan. Do I'm sorry. There's no easy way to put it. The cowboy season is over the Rams beat Dallas thirty to twenty two Saturday night to advance to the NFC championship game for the first time since two thousand one the Rams running game was just too much for Dallas C J Anderson Todd Gurley combined for three touchdowns, and they each ran for over a hundred yards on the other side as equa- Elliott was held to just forty seven yards. Dak Prescott had a solid game with a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown. But it was not enough. Let's take a listen to the Cowboys after the loss all the downs. The team that we had our three and five and being counted out by everyone but backs against the wall mentality. We're able to fight just to get to where we are right now as spying an incredible all the men on this team proud of this team. But any time you lose, especially when you know the team that we have and as close as as close as we thought we were not a good seller. Where life? Look at your star. Starring I remember it. Hopefully, our guys use this. Initiative, shannon. What happened? Oh, if you don't wanna go let me go need to go. You'll eat talk for fifteen minutes. Once I start. I'm not gonna stop what happened with the Rams and the Rams offense and defense of land dominated. There's something to be said about a team running the ball forty plus times because with a team run the ball that many times, obviously, they see something on tape. And they seem something over the course of the season. Because once you get to the playoffs. They don't just break down in the regular season. They break down for game in four game chunks in the postseason. They break down all sixteen games and you playoff game. So clearly Sean McVay in that offense staff. They saw something that they can take advantage of import this team known for their theatrics of throwing the football all over the field gov. What had a game where through five down to four hundred yards. And that's what they're really known for. They had gotten somewhat away from running the football. But they saw something even though the picture perfect performance. They had last week against Seattle who the number one running team, Sean McVeigh said I will not be deterred. You won't understand this. But there are a lot of people out there mock community that will understand this the Rams won't the Cowboys won't program. So when you have a program getting you know, you have someone to do the prayer you have someone to do. The welcome help someone to pray. But you need someone to do to Bill addiction, and the benediction is given at the end is letting everybody know charges over time to go home. Them addiction boys, buddy and CJ Edison, thirty five skill Baylor. That was a shame. What did you got at the end of the first quarter and midway through the second quarter? They shut them down band did not want any more C J Anderson what Janus meals. What are you talking about home and put didn't want any more? Did he wave out of the game? Stop at. They came out of the game for no apparent reason. Go ahead. Go ahead. He didn't want any more. How do you know? He didn't want. He wants all of the above police. Yeah. So what happened why withhold rudely interrupted? Lord have before. I would rule interrupts that was totally unnecessary the CJ Wison game. And he got his start longtime ram C, J Anderson. Right. You wanna go? Do you to go have good draft choice by Los Angeles. Go ahead. Go ahead. I wanna hear for all of all you've done is interrupt me. I'm done. I go ahead. I go out to you. Go seriously, Kyle go. So first of all I would like to congratulate the twenty eighteen Dallas Cowboys on not just a good season. But a very good season. I would like to congratulate them on one playoff win that should have been to playoff wins. But in the end my quarterback deck Prescott. His extraordinary playmaking his his warrior spirit, his refused to lose could not quite overcome Jason Garrett and his clear deficiencies as a head coach and the blunders he made twice in the fourth quarter. The second of which involve late in Vander, and I'll get to that in just a moment. But the point here is did I hear one analyst all week long last week predict that the. The Rams were going to run wild on the Cowboys. Because all I heard was that that Cowboys possibly could run wild on the Rams my right about that. That's what you said because they about five point one carrying. That's what Zeke reviews. Okay. No. That's what a stat said. Because five point one was the league worst yards per rush. They had given up. I didn't hear anybody. I did not hear the hall of Famer, Shannon Sharpe. The hall of Famer Eric Dickerson. Nobody predicted that the Rams would run wild on my team because you'd be a fool to predict that because you had just seen what had happened in the previous Saturday nights playoff game. They held the number one rush attack from Seattle to seventy three total yards twenty two in the first half. And you saw what happened on that fateful Thursday night? At the end of November at Gerry world when New Orleans was riding high and they visited with one of the top rushing attacks. What happened that night to Kamera and Ingram? What happened sixty? Eighty five total yards happen. So don't tell me that. My team doesn't have the talent to stop the run. My team just wasn't ready to stop the run. You know? And I know stopping the run has a lot to do. It's like playing defense in the NBA or rebounding the NBA. It's a lot to do with your heart with your desire with with what whatever you want to is on that night against that opponent. Right. Yeah. And for some reason, none of my coaches were able to light a big enough fire under my defense because it just came out flat. And I've told you all year long. I trust my offense more than my defense because my defense can lay eggs, what am I defense do two years ago in the playoff game against Aaron Rodgers early on what happened twenty one to three happened because they weren't ready to play. Right. But you told me the team because Jason Garrett is not a motivator. They don't need him to motivate motivate me, they wanted to get even with the Rams for what the Rams did to them in the second half lash out a win Todd girl. Really ran wild. Okay. And I'm here to submit to you if the Rams don't sign C J Anderson on December the eighteenth. They do not win that game on Saturday night. He was the difference. His power blasts up the middle. He looks like he's gained fifteen or twenty pounds from what he had in Denver, and it's good, wait. It's like fullback over good weight. But if he's gained weight he's gained weight, but he was just like a bowling ball knocking over unmotivated pins. Am I right? You might be shorter might Tober. You. Do I but he goes for one hundred twenty three on twenty three bursts up the middle. And it changed the whole game. I didn't see it coming. But I should've seen it coming because he had some big games. Remember yet? What to to Arizona had one hundred. I thought he had hundred sixty seven hundred sixty but he was like way up there, and he had my one twenty three against the Rams. So he was doing this. Forty four nine four nine. But my point is I should've seen it coming. Somebody should've seen it. I don't if the cowboy coaches saw it coming. But he just he was just all over them all night long. And again, I don't think Todd Gurley could've gone for two seventy three by himself. No, no plate in a month. Right. So on stamina loan. He just would have run out of gas and let alone. I don't think his knees one thousand percent night. Okay. All right. So now yet and still all that two hundred seventy three years rushing. Dax still could have kept him much closer. I'm going to go through the first half without too horrendous calls from the referees. And the first one happens. It's only they're only down thirteen to seven. It's four thirteen left in the first half. And they back up the Rams to third and fourteen. Now who is in on that drive of a sudden, they have put Sean Lee in in place of Andhra. What are you doing anymore? I used to love him, but he has played football for a year and a half. And he's. Got a dicey hamstring at best. And all the sudden you get to the the pivotal game of the year. You put yourself like that kid those two kids in the middle. Jalen Smith and band. Rush got them. Here. You've got chemistry. You got flow. You've got rhythm on defense and all of a sudden on a crucial series. You're down only thirteen to seven you yank van for what reason you think he's too light in the behind. Stop the Ron skit remember now he's been under the weather this past week. He was on antibiotics. So maybe I'm not buying. I'm not I'm sorry. I'm just not buying it. So we get to third and fourteen and Jared Goff pressured by DeMarcus Lawrence fires at low to Everett and Dak is going to get the ball back with four minutes left in the first half down only thirteen to seven and what gets called hands to the faith by Byron Jones. I gotta tell you press corners up and press coverage. I see this four five times every game. I watch where they. Get their hands in high, and they flagged that it's ticky tack chicken. You know, what we'll the measure question. Did he put his hands to get called all the time? It's an anti Jerry Jones, call era chance yet they're going to stick it to Jerry Jones. And then this is my favorite. This is the last one. This is fifty two seconds left in the half. And Dak is driven them all the way down to third and seven at the ram thirty six. You've got a chance to score at least three 'cause you're already in field goal range that drops back on third and seven and he escapes the pocket to his right? What happens when he escapes to his right? Good things usually happen. Because either runs for the first down or he flings it for a touchdown. Right. And what happened the whistle blows that. I'm thinking what what why you don't happen? Lyle Collins, they just called a sack on a guy who plays for Dax team. What are you doing? You can't do that. That's just such poor. Efficient. Lyle Collins throws Dax free of the pocket. That's legal the last time. I checked I don't know, and they blow in the grass in the grass mcgrady's free. He's a scape to the right? Trust me. Good things are going to happen. And it's minus seven and it takes them because it's fourth and fourteen whatever it takes them out of field goal range, that's minus three right there. And I think it well could have been minus seven because when he escaped not good things. But great things happen. So now that's now you're down twenty seven at halftime yet instill why are you down? Again, I'm trying to figure out still understand why you're down. Well, because the Rams are running wild on the what about what is your heart? Doesn't have the football. It's being dominated. What was the file possession? The game thirty six minutes. Twenty four minutes per you. First repossession, what did you do? I three I don't know out out out. I will close game. What are the Rams doing? They're just running wild over the ramp off point despite all those two hundred seventy three yards despite having next to none of coal Beasley. He got in for a couple of snaps in one ball despite not having Alan Hearns. Blake jar one was hurt and caught one ball. So he was pretty useless. Also that still battled back. Dax still got them in position to the football game. It's twenty three to fifteen my right about that twenty three to fifteen and he has gone, boom, boom, boom all the way down to the Rams thirty five and he made a nice completion on third and long to Noah Brown. Now. It's a half yard short. So it's fourth and a half, and we're going to the fourth quarter, and they're only down eight point. So don't tell me this was a blow out and it's four and a half. And the Dallas coaching staff has the whole quarter break to make a choice on the play. Right. Yes. That's unusual. 'cause usually the clock is running. You got to do like that. And what did they choose to do? They choose to run easycall Elliott who has gone nowhere for much of the game. They choose to run Zeke straight up the gut behind the backup center and the rookie guard and the former Pro Bowl right guard who needs knee surgery. You're kidding me. The two biggest anchors in all a pro football Casseus that know how about Aaron Donald both of them are just too big or pillars in the middle of anybody's defensive line. Those two and the play gets so blown up the center looney gets. So knocked off the ball that basically the center tackles Zeke two yards deep because he hits him right in the face. It's just complete blown-up play. It's so stupid. It's such it's so pathetically predictable that if I had had the power I would March right down and fire. Jason Garrett on the spot. You can't call that play. Do you realize what a playmaker number floor is my quarterback? Can you not run the read option? Can you not let him fake you not letting bootleg can you not let him do something? Because what happened later in the game? When he started run with the football great things started happening. And he's still got you back in the game. So he still kept firing. He still kept scoring. It's still an eight point game. It's thirty to twenty two. And finally the defense backs up the Rams to third and seven at their twenty eight yard line. And who goes back in the game. Sean Lee goes back in the game. This is the play of the night early. This is two minutes left in the game. That Prescott is going to get the ball back. And he's another guy who's becoming Brady like that. I don't bet against when he gets the ball in his hands late in the game. I do. Well, you would have been sweating, man. You would have had to change shirts. Against him with rush for one hundred. Well, he had them right in position or I know they need eight points. But you just saw him score eight points heater two point conversion, and he don't for two hundred sixty six yards already and barely had the football. And what happens on this play? They decide. Sean McVay calls a rollout a fake it to CJ and Jared goff's under center for this place. So it's not even a shotgun play and he bootlegs out. And what is Sean Lee? Do he's got higby on a little down out move. And at some point if you're that guy if you're a playmaker you have to see that Jared Goff who's a non running quarterback. He doesn't have a lot of legs. Speedy doesn't have a lot of quickness he is gone up full circle rollout. And once he gets near the line of scrimmage. She didn't even fake pass. You could see he was tucking and running and Sean Lee passed to get off it'd be and make that play because he needs seven yards. He got eleven because. Sean league gets trapped behind because black. Make the tap. That's not his plate. You gotta make that. We're that guy. If you're what you used to be you make that play. And you know, what Vander ash would have made the play on blissful ignorance. Not his play to me. We always say do your job his job is to take an angry down. Okay. But at some point you have to make a play video instincts have to take over because the greatest place in NFL history are often the result of instinct skill. Okay. He comes off he comes to get Jerry Gump, Jerry gov. Raise hit he'd be. Okay. Seven yards again, if it was third and one fourth third and one I get you your dicey. Like, do I go? But what it was clear at near the line of scrimmage, he tucked and ran with the ball. You've got seven yards to come off higby and make a play with some quickness and speed that Vander has displayed all year. Can he not run and hit Vander ash witted again, it would be blissful ignorance he would just see ball tackle ball because he is the wolf owner. I believe he makes that point. Why why would he's the wolf hunter? And he's gonna make all these plays. How they get to seventy three. Again, how did that Prescott? Keep you in the game. When you've given up two hundred seventy three yards rushing. You're only targets are Amari and Gallup it's impossible do realize this game could have been over early had the defense not dug their heels in. They held him to six when it could have been fourteen nothing. Hello, which defense the cowboy defense. Okay. They go down the field. They get the ball inside the five yard line twice and come away with field guy. Well that was early. That's the star. Where is that talking about the second half? You realize Dallas won the second half fifteen to ten and Dak Prescott had a hot hand. He was making plays all over the. I'm sorry. What to sixty six when you you'll add the ball for twenty four minutes, that's extraordinaire what they should have done. They should've taken the ball out of Zeke sans. Much earlier just say we can't do this. I don't know if you had had the wrong cleats on. Because a few was a little damp a little slippery little slick now you want the ball out of Zeke hands. All I wondered in the playmate. Oh, you love what he was doing. I told you what was going to happen. If that listen if I'm a defensive coordinator planned to Dallas Cowboys, I'm taking Zeke Elliott away. Now if that Prescott they all try to and they did. Okay. Yeah. So this is your time. This wasn't taking him away. This was Suffolk Asian. This is twenty tries for forty seven yards. What's that two point two? There was a play that hap-. And early in the ballgame. And I don't know if you noticed it Zeke Elliott ran the ball in the first quarter. Dante Fowler hit him from the blind side. He stuck him. And you gets up shakes. Hey, zinc. Didn't run the football with the same conviction. Apathetically you watch this hints. Can't I saw that you send a message. That's how you send a legal message to day. Okay. Not going to be your date to my point take the ball out of Twenty-one hands and put it in fours hands. I'm good with it. Four was not afraid for was banging heads with with all comers. Four was dishing as much as all off target. No. He was not. He missed throws all night. How do you? How do you go twenty to thirty to sixty six and your off-target? How do you have a QBR of eighty four to Jared goff's fifty seven eighty four scale zero to one hundred so he allied Jared Goff for the third time. Third time. You look at QBR is played it. Oh, well, Jared Goff fifteen to twenty eighty barely had over fifty percent for one eighty six great way to go. But you see less scintillating last week. You said that bresca I played played. Russell wilson. Did how Huby are seventy four to seventy easy. I can just show legs plus arm legs. Plus our Dak was relegate run with the ball. Tell me the run that was more. Tell me the run that that got had in that game that was more important than Jared Goff, third and ten none. That's the gal case who QBR should be done with the most important because you say it factors in pan with the game. Let Dan didn't. But he was so bad throwing the ball. He was so off target on the ball. So so nondescript on the ball, I can't remember big throws that he made. Usually, I remember the words you take the Amari Cooper, the great run out the cat, and you take the Michael Gallup. So did you see that all behind? Did. You see how Michael Gallup I down through the ball behind. I saw one. And it's like the whole world thick sites on. Did. You see this? He missed a throw mis-throw Tom Brady missed three throws yesterday pain. He was extraordinarily that. What you do hiccup isolated? You say, you know, it's going to be trouble in that escapes to his right? You take one time that he's made a play escape into his right? I got dozens of times or scaping to left as. You saw on the bomb two gallon. I got of the he's been off targeting all over the know. How many how many times did he told the ball of a how scared would you have been if Sean Lee tackle Jared Goff at six yards and they had scared. How would you be? You would be real scared because I gotta tell you my quarterback had a hot hand, especially the longer. The game. Went the hotter hand got skew. I wouldn't bet against it. Or defense. Gabe to seventy three Russian and zero sacks. Let kids Boris leftist seeking we still had a chance to minutes left in the game. That you got a warrior a quarterback. I am so happy Dak Prescott is my quarterback pay the man Jerry Jones because he's going to win. Lots of playoff games for the Dallas Cowboys Soham proto, a whoa, wait a minute. He's a playoff game. But I didn't hear you say the game. Okay. The game. He'll win Super Bowls, plural. How about that going down more later for now Janu came and celebrating show. We sure should be south celebrating differing your Super Bowl pick. The chargers that one destroyed expert skip soup. The patriots are going back to a place. They know very well. The AFC championship game New England dominated the chargers yesterday. Tom Brady threw for over three hundred yards with a touchdown. And is now a perfect eight and oh all-time against Philip rivers. But it wasn't all about Brady Sony. Michelle had three touchdowns over one hundred yards in the forty one twenty eight win. The patriots are headed to Kansas City on Sunday for their eighth straight AFC championship game, Shannon. Were you surprised by the patriots performance surprised? How dominating to work? Picked a charge charges to win the game. Because I had to charge us pick go to represent the Super Bowl. And by the way, you weren't alone. I think most people do but go ahead think they jumped on the bandwagon late epide-. So how well San Diego's playing down the stretch. I was surprised how dominating on both sides of the football. The patriots were. Yeah. Pick the charges to win. But MS apprised the patriots are very tough out in that building. But what was so disappointing is that? The charges inability to adapt. You know what Tom Brady Tom Brady's most teams. Let me let me start back here. Most teams go into the game say we're gonna take the run game away. We're gonna make you one dimensional is like if you a parent you go into the store, and you tell your child you only get one thing they pick seven things, and you let them have them all where you've kinda gone away from what what you were actually trying to do. Well, if you say, you're gonna take the runaway take the runaway. They didn't take the runaway Senate Michelle how to feel they running the football. And you didn't take the pass away. You know, going into the games. Give Tom Brady is gonna throw the ball. Normally he starts throwing the ball. Short to get you sucked up in any tries to put the ball over your head. If he had something the mere fact that Gus Bradley was lining up in a base coverage in saying, okay? This is what we're gonna do. Now, you notice he ran the same defense. He ran against Baltimore Davies, it would work it works against a rookie quarterback. And I guess the team that has no idea that you're going to run it. But you're going to run that defense against Tom Brady who. Had a week to prepare. So they're saying this what we're gonna do. Oh, you wanna play seventy you wanna play instead of putting linebackers on the field? You wanna put safeties? Well, I'm going to see those safeties can hold up against offense lineman in the run game. I'm gonna see your safety can take rob gronkowski at the point of attack in hold up, and they couldn't and this. This is what you know. Also about Tom you need to get pressure on him. But you need to be in front of his receivers and reroute them because if you just play zone just drop to an area Tom Brady pick you apart thirty seven of Tom Brady forty four tenths travel ten yards list. That's eighty four percent. So what is telling you skip Bayless Tom Brady. Oh, you're not gonna change anything. If like if I'm a fisherman, and I go to spot, and I'm just catching fish. I'm not going to get up and move and go somewhere else. I'll stay there presume the Fisher gonna run out but going well, they just don't get into supply. He was in the supply of five yard first down kitchen James Whitehead fifteen catches for ninety seven yards. So what that tells you, oh, y'all gonna make any changes y'all not gonna make Jesuits he had one catch for twenty five yard. So the other if he had fifteen ninety seven at fourteen for seventy two for the rest of the day. So it just goes to show you, but I was apprised about the amount of pressure that they got on Philip rivers. You look at the way they approach this game. They said we're gonna pressure your quarterback, and we're gonna put hands on your receivers. Which is the opposite of what the descending what the deli charge of. We're going to skip you can play certain coverages against certain quarterback. They played a lot of man covered. They played a lot of twenty five coverage, which is to safety main underneath because you run past rivers. Where's he going? He's not jumping out of the window and running pass like a Cam or Dak or Russell Wilson now. So he's not going anywhere. So you can be to physical and not worry about him leaving or scaping the pocket, but I will. Surprise. The patriots won not really idea pick the charges to win. I'm surprised in how they dismantled because. Yeah. The charges had thirty point that game was not even close. It was never close. So that's what's the most apprising part to me was how physically dominating on both sides of the football. The patriots were. So dancer, genie's question. I was not surprised and allow me to say something that you don't wanna hear it's a privilege to watch. That man opera. We've unbelievable at age forty one. That was artist at work. I hear everything you just said, and I agree with all of your breakdown of why the chargers broke down. I'm with you on all the above. But I did try to warn you Friday. There's this one guy. I don't bet against an all of sports, and that's the goat especially in Foxborough. Because what I saw yesterday. I don't think Tom Brady's ever been better than he was yesterday. I saw. Deadly accurate. Lasers. I saw sweet in deadly rainbows. I saw the whole package from Tom Brady. And you're right. It's a little bit dinky should donkeys early. But then he'll start to throw it up field. His thorn on deeper crosses to element in. I want to remind everybody his two primary targets are a five foot nine inch running back and a five foot ten inch seventh round draft choice who played quarterback in college named Julian element. Who's coming off major knee reconstruction at age thirty to those who you're throwing to there's not a Keenan Allen. There's not a Mike Williams. There's not a hunter Henry didn't really register yesterday. But goes back or what's left of Antonio gates? What gronk catch one ball over twenty one for twenty five and it was nice to see a little blast from the past. But that's all you got was one little blast from that past. And yet I've I've not seen Tom throw with more accuracy. Or with a quicker trigger than I saw yesterday. But all I've heard is especially on this show from various people on the show. He's washed up. He's over the hill. What's our man? Eric Dickerson say and he's going to be on here in a little bit. But he says he's an old man who shouldn't be playing football anymore. Well, that's that's a pretty commonly held view of Tom Brady who did that to that defense, which to me is a little if not a lot better than Kansas City's defense. That's the one chance that you gotta give Brady at Kansas City next Sunday night. Is that the chargers defense is it's it's talented man is they're not there's telling everywhere I like to think they're better than what they showed them. They are better because the corners are better the to pass rushers. I don't even know what happened to I saw Melvin Ingram flash. A couple of times joy boasted he play yesterday. Boy, they eliminated him. Skip is that when you can't stop the run. Now, you have to be on your heels you gotta dig in there to try to say. Okay. You're not gonna run the football. And so now, you laid out the ball and he's throwing the ball quick. And this is why you want to reroute guys. Because by the time, you get there, you take two steps and the balls gong because Gaza vacating to an area and Jillian that those guys are smart enough to go. Okay. I'm gonna just gonna go where you're not. So that that was the most disappointing things get and why good Gus Bradley, see when he was in Seattle skip, and they were up and coming and he had those young head or Sherman, and he had all these young guys that were great. He says we do what we do better than what you do. So we're just gonna lineup up here. We're gonna play cover one man Frey safety in the whole. And we're gonna come get you. So, but we're better at that than when you run your office that what you do Tom Brady say jive. No, you're not how many teams have gone in there thinking that same thing. Like they look at him on tape. And they say he's old you can't move, and then they get out there and the ball's traveling little faster than you think it should in the receivers are catching and listen, Jillian. Aleman after catch is he not mentally is going to battle through. He's gonna fight through whatever. Tackle you wanna throw at him. So he's been good now. 'cause I remember the last laugh laugh two months now he hasn't been doing good again when it's time when the money's on the table is he not a money catcher in runner. What about any good? He's not gonna make sure that you know, you've been. Jay, I just wanna make. I said he was pretty good. So Brady another words Brady has hell, I don't know if he has a lot of hell, no, no. I know put Julian it'll money either any of the roster in this league. Do you think he'd be that guy? Are they don't think? So the question when you transfer someone from Rafter Marley to use them in the same way. I don't think anybody would care to. But he's got wavelength. He's got report. He's got connection would number twelve. What about the nets? All that matters. Bill Bill to take his fastball defense any good yesterday. I didn't think it was very good. I'm glad you brought that up is it still scares me to death. Philip rivers didn't have the ball too much because that was another thirty six to twenty four time when they had to do in the first half of Philip had the ball. What did he do? With Philip rivers threw for three hundred thirty one yards and three touchdowns. You get to play four quarters. I'm just saying hollow hollow it is go with thirty five to seven and a half. But it ended up it started getting a little nervous. There at the end and Belcher was was criticized and pushed after the game. Why'd you leave Tom in? And he said, well, I was going to leave him in until the game was over. Well, I'm telling you, I Philip rivers is a comeback artist. And we've seen what he did at Kansas City in Pittsburgh, we've seen it. Right. And I'm Bill check was still sweating over there thinking is he going to get them back in this game? The thing was is that I'm looking at like this. I have had seen up until that point Philip rivers in this offense show me any no glimpses of being able to get back in this game. And plus they couldn't stop Tom Brady. Get them in third. They get them in third and eight and he they run to area vacated in their little and sitting down or there's James white. So it just goes to show you if a guy catches fifteen balls any catching fifteen balls and the fame way swinging the ball out of the backfield. Okay. So what Bill Belichick finally have the presence of mind to do with the opening coin toss he wanted. And then what did he do for once? He took. No, he didn't take the ball. He handed it to the greatest quarterback ever. Because you know. And I know he usually defers, and it usually drives me out of my mind giving he's normally different in the playoffs. He's different because you remember when they played when they went to Denver Denver head that von defense. They wanted to talk and he took the ball in the playoffs. He likes us in whatever you think your strength is he likes to send a message because he wants to send that message early. He goes down the field against that defense. Bill. We've been talking about bolsa and Ingram and all those guys. He gets the ball. They go right down the field. This is the same Bill Belichick who wants deferred in overtime. The jets the late in the twenty six season it cost him a football game. And then they lost at Miami. And wound up in Denver. Right. Okay. So what did he do this time? He handed the ball to number twelve what a number twelve. Do he faced four third downs in that drive? And he threw for first downs all four times, and it was seven nothing. And then. Stephon Gilmore, I have no idea he wanted double. Now. I know but unlike him because usually that early in the game it takes time to set that up, and it was already it's like he just kinda lost focus for second. And he lets their best receiver run right past him for a give up walk in touchdown. Right. So it seven enough seventy seven played enough. He looked back your sound like he's supposed to have him. Now, you got hit one on one. Look like, I. Water with you yet Tom Brady takes the football. And goes, boom, boom, boom. And it's fourteen to seven, and then, you know, the rest of the right way. So he was unstoppable yesterday. And I'm gonna say this again Tom Brady is on a new mission. Because this is the first time in since that first Super Bowl he's the underdog now, and what did he say to Tracy Wolfson on CBS right after the game. What did he say? He said, I know people think we can can't win a game. Right. Well, that was significant because he volunteered that. She didn't ask him that. She she didn't ask him. What do you think of the naysayer she just asked him about Kansas? Hold on. I thought Tom Brady said it doesn't matter. What anybody says outside of the building? It only matters. What comes inside what I will head on for him. I was told Tom Brady doesn't listen the television. He doesn't worry about anybody though. So. Just like all the other great here. Everything. What did I tell you on Friday that Tom Brady has is in ears? He might not watch undisputed. But he here's all about what Shannon Sharpe. And Eric Dickerson to hall of famers say about him on her. But there are people around here in go back. That is correct. So he says nowhere. I know people think we suck. And we means you, and Eric and others Hulo just wanna know where was that synergy when they play Miami. Where would that suited you when they played the titans? I try to do is. I'm glad you brought up the Miami miracle Yankee for bringing that up because Bill Belichick cost this team home field advantage on Saturday night. And I still don't get why he's getting a pass. You're giving him a pass everybody in the world is giving us the great Bill check. Hello. Just to refresh. Everybody's memory. It's thirty three to twenty eight Tom Brady at Miami was seven seconds left and the Miami Dolphins are sixty nine yards from a touchdown with a quarterback who's hurt who can't plant and throw in. Ryan tannehill my right about that. And so Bill puts in what's left of rob gronkowski who can't run or jump to defend a hail Mary. That's going to be thrown from seventy five eighty yards away. Really only repair holders. Make and I'm not sure he could. But he might he just might. But if anybody could eat good, but he was not on the field, and you know, the rest of the story being being being being touchdown. It was the most shocking turning point moment of the whole NFL season. And it put New England it put them from Foxborough all the way to Kansas City, Missouri on Saturday night this game Sunday night, and it will again if they're playing in Foxborough. I think even you would. No, no, no. It looks like Tom Brady's back. This is going to be hard. But I've been telling you all year. I think Tom Brady is loving this new circumstance because he has gone from prohibitive favourite, which is often been almost always been since the first Super Bowl to underdog to everybody thinks we suck. And it's a new deal for him. And I told you he has a chance to pull off his greatest achievement ever am. I right. I road. Win says they beat the charge of Jarnac. That's the visual thousands. Yeah. That's thirteen years really from they they've lost their last. He wrote play. All right. And he's what would bring in Belgium three and four five three and five on the road. They lost. They lost the Denver twice on the road. They lost the Indy on the road. So they've lost their last three Rogaine. You don't think? That's going to be. You don't think Tom Brady is gonna hear that over and over and over again all week. You don't think he's gonna? Here's your guy. My homeboy. We'll talk about a forty one year old. I gun you. Yeah. Go here that all week. All right. But a quarterback can't get over motivated right want that kid to come out. That's the one position where motivation doesn't really all. But home you. So you like, Tom he psycho. Remember he comes down, and he goes go. But he, but he doesn't saying this is the first year starter you might get a little too gunned up with the math time I in order through fifty touchdown the five thousand yards he different. Well, I'm getting remind everybody Tom Brady head to head with that kid threw for one hundred eighty two in the fourth quarter with no hell to overcome guess what he overcame Bill defense in the second half at home gave up thirty one to that kid thirty one points in the second half, but who won forty three to forty Brady. No help. So I'm thinking, Tom Brady's your school. What has helped with? Allman is hit with James Michelle's back Brady, probably score seventy nor should probably be seventy two fourteen. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. So let's see does. Brady have Travis kills. No. He didn't have that. Does he have Tyree joint way? Let me ask. Let me ask. No. Tyreek is there. Tyreek on New England. Is there? A Sammy Watkins Sammy Watkins was really good. You know, what I noticed? I never heard. I never heard when gronk was running rampant. I never heard to say air. Rogers have rob gronkowski. Will he does air Rogers have Randy moss? I never heard skip say that now he had Greg Jennings. Mike, stop it's give stop Greg is unbelievable unbelievable career, but he had an unbelievable year that but Randy malls. But I never heard you say, I never heard us lane. Man. I sure wish I wish Rogers had a wrong. What about right now? Does he does Tom Brady have any of those weapons that kid for the last the last six years any elastic you rob gronkowski double digits down talking about now? He's flawed no web now. Well weapons so homo talking about now just talk about so one guy has fifteen catches. The other guy has nine for book. Hold on, Jillian. It has the second most receptions in playoff history. But he's nobody. Yeah. But how do you do that you do that? Because your quarterback loves you. And you get to play in a whole lot of playoff games if you're riding with number twelve he's not Brian one when the late a lot of playoff game. Tom Brady, and they're not second in the NFL Yoon Ripley off catching, well, that's his favorite target obvious. Oh, so in other words, the guy can play what do you think Julian element to run the forty and I don't know anything. I don't know. They're the lot of live one. I don't know. Maybe only this one. I ran for eight you did you. I didn't the Cowboys told me that John wooden. Did he timed it? And he said you here we're off. He was offi watch too slow watch array of four six seven four six five the combat around world. Okay. That's good. You're in the hall of fame. Yeah. You gotta have something going on. Oh, absolutely. Talk your way out now. Doc about the Cowboys. Well, they lost to the ram Saturday night failed to advance to the NFC championship game on the positive side deck threw a touchdown pass in rushed for another. But the Cowboys were only one for ten on third down after the game. Dak said, quote, we weren't able to execute and it hurt so, Shannon. How would you gray Dax performance from the week? I gave him a C minus because I thought it was very average a slightly below average. He doesn't seem doesn't push the ball down the field Jenny at thirty two attempts. Only four traveled fifteen yards or more all if four travel fifteen yards or more. You know, what I don't like to video because sometimes but drop that try. Drop that try for me because really he should have to pick six. I mean, I don't know what the cover the covers tell you that the linebacker lined up. He's gonna blow the flat that what he's going to zone blitz. It's just you get fooled. Why you get fooled because I not to rush the past though, he didn't that formation tells me, but he's going to blow up the flat, and guess what that hitting right between the numbers, and he dropped it has MAC cotton's lie. Although skit on how many caught you see a pass catcher is interceptor. No didn't catch him right in the hands the ball traveled like three yards, and it stuck right in his and he walk in and guess who through that my homeboy Jimmy. That's only one I wore during this, Shannon. I did you need help out of hell, no, hell, I'm helping then again. It's the Cowboys. It's hard to. Just what we do with Zeke this year when Zeke isn't running all you gotta do beat the Cowboys this about Saturday night. What are we giving? Great for the whole, you know. Cowboys violence leak is held under seventy five yards this either seventy career. So in other words, what we're trying to tell you get been to annotate and everybody's been telling you running football team. And when you shut off Zeke, Elliot, and you put the ball in that hand and say that deliver us from evil. He did he unwilling or incapable of doing that. Because he had another golden opportunity to show me. He had an opportunity. Shut Shannon Sharpe. Up to say, you are a liar. But it didn't do it. They shut off Zeki what he do. Dana and Dak and all the big fish are in the deep. I've never seen. Anybody catch away at zoom. You gotta go away. Drop the track of Gallup with over the shot for touchdown. Why don't you drop that track? Hold on those don't count sweet those under your could've. Swore of Dax thirty two attempts all in for fifteen yards down the field. So what would have found how many how many quarterbacks do more than that? That's most quarterback. I this. You had a higher yards per attempt than Aaron Rodgers swore hot. Help. We're not talking about a lot of quarterback grain a lot of quarterback out grading this quarterback. So thank you. That's a necessary skill that is very unnecessary. I'm so disappointed in you this morning for interrupting so unbecoming Jerry played outta. You know, why you're better is not easy is not easy playing the quarterback position. And you ask to turn around and hand the ball off forty seven forty eight times. And then on third down come up and try to make throws or try to make grows when you hand the ball five six seven times in a row, and they ask you to turn around and make throws after that. So it's not as easy, but at the end of the day now most quarterbacks tell me, you know, I heard it. I heard that you don't care about new QBR. He'll cut no touchdown care about yards about them. And he came to my restaurant. Oh, really? Handsome. This would mean I've heard that. They come by. You know, who came I had a good old time tiger now. Good game. I had a good old time on with Todd Gurley. The best guy who's running backs. Bagels who by mail. CJ dickerson. On CJ Dickerson, right? Z nine. Did he probably shut down your restaurant? Right. So you'll get Todd Gurley credit. I give him some credit. He's all it carries. He didn't have as many carries. The other guy to see that. What do you let CJ beat him up? Did you come clean them up? So. What's your grade? Skip. I'm going to be really hard on Prescott and give him an a minus. Because I. Model for what he was extrordinary with his resilience and his refused to lose and his warrior spirit and his fight to the finish. I'm never seen in quite like it. They should have gotten run off that grass that night at the Coliseum and he kept them in this game. They're going to the fourth quarter down eight and they got the ball all the way at the thirty five because he's gone, boom. Boom, boom. And it's he went boom on third down to Noah Brown is beautiful throat to the sideline. But no around young receiver couldn't quite fight for the first down. So it's four and a half yard is it Dax Prescott Dak Prescott fault that they took the ball out of his hands and put it back in zeke's hands. Is it his fault that they called the dumbest play in the history of fourth and short, but you hold on skip. Is it his fault? But no, it's not his phone even. Hurt that I promise you. He's going to go score another touchdown. And by the way, can we look at the big picture here. That Prescott goes twenty thirty two to sixty six and he doesn't have the bulgur much because they just get crushed in time a position it's thirty eight to twenty two that that's just extrordinary. So so let's let's look at how much he did with how little he had to do it. And in the two sixty six he does for one touchdown. He runs for another touchdown. He throws a two point conversion, and I get it that that was a potential interception. He just flat out got fooled by the classic zone blitz. Which the Rams do not do very much of when I watched the Rams. I haven't seen him do much of that all year, they just line up with their front foreign come after you, and he's a stand up pass rusher. And usually he's just coming and he dropped back in the ball goes. Right. Tune because he's trying to force it to Amari onto leave. So the point is out give you that one. And I'll give you. He missed throw Gallup to Gallo. He threw it behind him. And he threw it a little behind Kobe's Lee, though, he might have been going to gallop behind Cole. I couldn't really tell and coal couldn't cut the way usually cuts. So I'm gonna give you three bad throws. But how about all the great throws because his QBR that they don't fool around. He hasn't gotten any good QBR's this year. He had very good. You had eighty four against the Rams at the Coliseum. Jared Goff had a fifty seven. He crushed him in QB. It was a home game for you. Remember, they said the crowd was sixty forty. Yeah. Home game. Okay. Well, it's a home away from home game. But it's still a way it's a way. So let's look at this. The most misleading stat I can ever remember out of a box score. Was that the Dallas Cowboys one for ten on third down? Can we dissect that plan does that Prescott completed four passes on third down? So he had one already converted. He completed four passes that got them within. Half yard of the stink. They don't do it hype. That I'm out he completed those ball. So it's misleading because three of the four times they converted on for it down. So you almost have to give him a third down conversion because he completed also fourteen that good. Okay. I'm still going. I'm still going then there was an early third down at third and five from his thirty yard line. And could we please see this to Amari Cooper, because nobody mentioned this that I heard, but he hits a market right in the hands on a little crossing route. Here we go watch this watch watch. Run the hands. It goes to San you have to catch that he's still running. You have to catch this brought in the hands. Did he say anything about that? There's another third down conversion so that would have been that would get him up to six and then how about the in the grasp call when Lyle Collins quote, unquote, tackled in his own, man. Tackled him there's another one. So that's one that he did kill your black or plus five plus six you would you want? That Prescott actually went six of ten on third down and the stat says one of tissue. That's how good he was. So now, you want the NFL stat people to change it. If you come up with the have we give them a first down. I ended the guy how many times have somebody dropped the ball on third down. You don't know. You don't do it for any other quarterback other that credits showing you what he did do know what he did what he did do with your pretend on third down. That's what he did that fat the facts if you really look hard if you want the truth if you use your test see heroes extrordinary on third was actually better than most people. All the all the years that we've seen guys drop passes on down. Okay. You have a made this excuse for this. They're showing you what he did. What are you doing thing was fourth and short? It would be like a quarter of a yard a half yard, and they converted three out of four. No, no, no. How do? Yes. I do. They say third down attempts or they say a fourth down most of the time. When you go one in ten would Russell Wilson go like three of twelve he was just awful. He just he didn't even come close. Russell's awful. My guy was getting close. He was close to the first down gave it to it be out for a third time. Outplay Jared Goff preseason game at Gerry barreled. He run out of I don't know. He's running out of ravines getting revenge now. Well, there's no revenge now except you could get rid of the head coach and the coordinator, maybe that would help that would take you to the next fired everybody those guys they deserve their job. That's not going to skip. I want you to stop this. And if. The head coach hadn't taken out late and Vander late in the game. And you get a stop wouldn't you love to have seen. No, you wouldn't. But I would love to have seen back Prescott with the football in his hands with two minutes left at maybe his forty yard line. Because. He had the ball for twenty minutes in his hand. Why you wanna see we're too? If you didn't do anything with twenty he gonna do anything to help me out? How do you? How does your defense give up two hundred seventy three yards rushing yet throughout the second half your within eight points? You know, why? Because the quarterback just keeps making play. How does your running back? Oh, twenty carries for only forty seven yards. And you're only down down down eight going to the fourth quarter down eight with two minutes. How do you do that? Because your quarterback. You know, what I guess changed? Great. I'm gonna give him a serious law. Gotta give him an eight. That's extrordinary. He's he's the most over criticized unfairly criticized quarterback in pro football. If you did this. If you don't mind me asking skip in the first quarter when the Rams ran about ten plays inside the ten yard line in the Cowboys defense Dopp them what was doing that. He should have been playing safety because they could use them. He would've stopped the wrong. How about? How about math at the quarterback position before he's knowing renting out. Okay. When he learns how to really learn how to play that. Then we can talk about maybe this should have been a blowout. And it wasn't because of Michael. And then the no photo, we don't talk about blow out. You said you had a feeling, and I told you now I told you that black soup not try to and I wanted to say skip may money when you come here. I need you to have that same having more energy. I had on Friday millennials. They call it synergy. Now, I don't know what you're going to call it. But I need you to run it with that same energy in the sixties. I think okay, I want you to run it with that same nasty. I want you to talk about the Rams than what they demolition job. It did to your cowboy I want to talk about that. I want you to talk about how you predicted that the Rams would run for two seventy three because I didn't hear a peep out of you about predicted the ram would win anything come come along with that out. Gladly. I don't know if you're in like this. But I just wanted. You know, Jason Garrett did say this morning Lyn hand will be back on. We'll be back. We'll be back. No that's necessary skill that is so unnecessary. That's hard to hear. He wants changes. What changes to be frustrating? I feel you. Let's mutable will happen walk and walk into him guilty here. Oh, speaking of you, you need help with. Yeah. That. At least I know Dak can win the east with Scotland a hand, that's all I know you can win these other than that. I don't know it while the to them when he lay limp tomb is happy, you know, what he's got no backstop anymore. He's got no back up. It really doesn't know the neck foles magic Iran out yesterday near ran out Shanteau fit ran out now that the Al shelhah magic ring. What happened did happen? Defending champion eagles were a big underdog New Orleans yesterday, but they got off to a hot starting full through a long TD pass and the eagles led fourteen nothing in the first quarter. But they didn't score point after that. And the combo of drew Brees and Michael Thomas were unstoppable. The eagles had a chance to win it late in the game. But foles was picked off for the second time. When the ball went right through L, Sean, Jefferies hands. The saints won twenty to fourteen will host the Rams in the NFC championship game Sunday on FOX Sega listen to breeze and Jeffrey after the game. Teammates now sitting city Philadelphia. That's on me. I'll take Barry. No. I just I wanted to me it is what is having to the best. I mean guys miss game. When shots up all the time. Live. You learn. Team nicole. She's done a phenomenal job form. We knew it was gonna be different than last time, Shannon. What was the difference yesterday had an opportunity to deliver the Khuda grow scale there at fourteen nothing to get the ball back and Nick Boles kept. He is not a check down guy. He doesn't do a lot of nibbling goes for the home run any win for the room with Zakar it's under through the bottle little bit. And Marshon Lattimore intercepted. It he has small in the flat. That would have given them a first down. And then I think the real turning point of the ball game. And is what we know about Sean Payton, he's always looking Steeler possession. Eagles diagnose skip. They're thinking about this. They they're in the what we call a defense state punt safe. He leaves his defense on the field. Take a corner out. I mean, take a linebacker out skip and get the return in there. Just in case they put it so they got their expecting this. But you gotta give the saints credit because they were able to get enough push to let the the upback get enough of the first down. They go down the field. They score. Touchdown. If you look at it. Nick foles in the first quarter skip he's eight of nine one hundred thirteen yards. Touchdown touchdown run. Touchdown ROY fourteen points, the final three quarters. He's ten of twenty to eighty eight yards to I t's he couldn't finish them. Now. Saints is why you good homefield skip. You know, you fall down fourteen on the road more times than not is good night. Irene I know you don't know who I renamed but good night. But they were at home crowd kept him in the game. They get that first down, but I can approximate. Sure, you you don't wanna tell too many times, you definitely don't wanna temp that fate with the ramp coming in. But what happened was is that you remember last just can't lick bowls went on this the eagles. And they went on this run. What could they also do run the football? They had legare blunt. They had J J and they found the ball. So they get a lead. They found the ball with those two guys. They have no resemblance over run game sixteen Reggie forty nine yards. That's not nearly good enough and it allowed because you care. Throwing the ball throwing the ball. And you loud you read the get his rhythm before. I turned. I wanna know one thing. Eagles. How many times Michael Thomas caught twelve passes for buck seventy one or two touchdowns? How many times are you? Let them run in cut skip. How many times they run that route? They let him run push up the twelve break in and catch the ball that fourteen. How many times they gonna let him do it? He's been doing all year long. I'm last night jobs moonlight at the time. I look at time. I'm looking like in cut again and cut all they run. It's give you playing playing Tampa to you. Kate what use a tiny in a second receiver DEVE Kate the linebacker, and then he puts you I'm coming. Do can you please? Maybe that's why drew Brees should win MVP. He's got one target and he just keeps going to the same. No, no skip. No skip. If you don't take it away. I'm gonna keep going till you don't think everybody's tried to take that away the whole year. No doubly. I'm sure he's been doubled. Nearly we'll make well. Well, we're gonna get well we're gonna find out because I know I'm taking that away. I'm not skip coach. Check check since I'm not gonna let your best player beat me. Now, you got a bunch of best player that makes it makes it really really hard. I mean, you got you got tyreek hill. You got Travis. Kelsey you got watches. You have a lot of, you know, weapons skip it's hard. But really when you think about it in the past game, Kamara a little tough to ninety tough to deal with coming out of the backfield. But that's what happens they got a big lead. And they were not able to build on it fourteen in the first quarter. And then the final three they get zilch. This time. I was really a good boy. And I just kept biting my tongue over here. I did not interrupt. One time. I wanted to Manley in my tongue is now bleeding bitten. So Arthur my out. Like that taste better. Now. My first point is I believe that several members of the eagles hierarchy where somewhat relieved when that football went right through Al Shawn's hands into Mark. Lattimore. And that ended Nick foles run in Philadelphia or Fola del the're whatever you wanna call that was the end of that and their worst nightmare would also be their their biggest dream was that he would just keep on keeping on and win this year Super Bowl because if that happened. Yeah. You just be stuck. I don't know what you do. But I just how you could let Nick the franchise eat twenty five thirty million for backup. So I think there was some relief that that ball went through Shawn's hands. And he'd be the last guy. I would think it would go through his hands in that moment. It was just a shocking end to foles magic glance. He's not. He's not backers eighty so I'm coming. But remember that was second in ten all the way to New Orleans twenty seven yard line that game had twenty one to twenty written all over it. It just felt like foles magic was about to overcome the New Orleans voodoo or whatever's in that building that's generated on birth because that pass was right on the button that would have been right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be like earned in to. All right. And I'm not betting against Nick foles in that moment until that happened. Now back to what you said Nick foles was magical in the first quarter. He was just magical, and he played the way he played against genie's. Vikings and against Tom Brady and Bill bell check in the Super Bowl. He's just flinging, rainbows all home run. Yeah. Home runs and he's dropping out of the rafters into Jordan Mathews hands from your university. Thank you very much. And yet it's now second and eight at the Philadelphia forty eight early second quarter, and you're up fourteen to nothing Nick foles goes for the throat because his head coach wrote a book in the off season called fearless. I right. And he he radiates his head. He can't see it in his body language, but he's built for that head coach because man he likes to throw you wanna talk about throwing deep. He's going to go forward at all costs. And in this case he had a six foot five inch tight end on a corner. Who's really good, but he is all of six feet tall. So Zakar it's has five inches on. Marshon lattimore. And he throws it up. And I thought it was a pretty good throw. I thought it was up for Zach earth. I thought Zakar on you have he has him beat if he just throws the look he earned way behind him. He he threw a jump ball instead of a deep, right? Yes. Yes. If you try the deep ball he tries to lead him. He's just thinking I got six five on six feet because he's got a corner. It's not a safety. Okay. What's the seventy withdrawing banging on me, leave me? All right. Okay. You weren't a jump ball artist. That wasn't what you want. I wouldn't fix. I don't know how much of a leaper marshawn is. But I soon he can really jump because you've got up for that. I looked combine last night just to see he went thirty eight and a half. And I even know how great that. It's right. It's pretty good Mary eating, you know. Hey, but that is that kid not. I think he's the best corner in football on a regular basis playmaker. Does he not get his hands on this skill? He's reading. I don't know. This was one of his better games that he's played having seen a lot of New Orleans games. I thought he he's better than what he showed the first half the season. So I'm gonna give Nick foles this break. I think this is happened very quietly and most people have not fixated on this. But do you realize over the last nine games? The New Orleans defense is second in points allowed only to the bears its second. It's been extraordinary. It's leads the NFL over the last nine games in takeaways with eighteen so they are taking the ball away. Like crazy. So even though drew Brees in the offense struggled down the stretch. The defense will add alles. It was thirteen to ten right? So it was the only gave that defense only gave up nine points at allina. So they just kept on keeping on. But the offense was barely overcoming rightness of the defense. Right. Right. So I think defense is really loaded. It's talented. It's running hot it runs. Hits. And I think I think the Rams will go for two hundred and seventy three rush yards. I could be wrong. But I don't think so either skip. But I don't think anybody thought we see a twenty fourteen ballgame. I thought we thought both team will get into the upper twenties. I think you and I both Igor to win the game. But I actually know twenty fourteen tight ballgame. So so actually, I'm not surprised that Nick foles through the middle of the game struggled. But when because you can't even audible there, it is so loud, you know, how crazy that building is. So you take away a lot what an offense can do. But when he finally zeroed in the fourth quarter. They started to move the ball, and it took alshon that blunder that shocking. Unexpected uncharacteristic blunder not that he hasn't dropped passes. He just doesn't drop that Pat, right? He's he's a big time. Clutch lever. So that was to his credit. He just sat there for what looked like forty five minutes after the game owned it any owned it. He owned and he said, it's on me. It's on me. It's on me. And he. Said I'll be thinking about this whole off season. He will be thinking about it the rest of his life because that's a rough one the eagles need to get them. Running back skill. Well, they do but it was only twenty two fourteen. I agree with you. I mean, Nick foles got him that far with no running at New Orleans. What you walk into with doing? You know, what they are going to take a big step back? Not not. They just will. Because I don't think the team believes in him the way they believe was gonna take a step back. It'd be led me five and winning division nicking. So you'll want to do. Are you going to give me more over? You can give me more right now. Eagles eagles eagles. Who you take? Carson wentz. Lost twice denied every. I love it. I'll take three cases right now. Okay. Take three take. Yes. Okay. You got the Cowboys for three cases. I got the eagles. If neither wins the division. Nobody wins care. Okay. I win. You realize you already lost the same bet this year. And my team only is going to get better. You realize I have the youngest team in pro football. The Dallas Cowboys are the youngest team. You don't think they're going to get better who who hardy betting young last doing so? Well, and then you just gave me more to get it back, you know, to ninety eight on Saturday. You actually had me down to cases. But I knew I had Tom Brady in my back pocket. So two cases, Tom Brady even know blood. I get back. I'll get it back. Hey, I got a pinning vet on LeBron that's back from discussed what? Throw bet. All right. We'll since the Rams are headed to the NFC championship game. Of course are ram. Let's do it. Bring it on wasn't gonna miss today show is here, we'll get his take next wouldn't even scared to work today. Now. Well, the ram Basseterre air. Show up today, and he brought many AD again. So he definitely had to be here. After the Rams had that win over the tunnel. All this stuff is what I I just got to say we go into New Orleans. I can't. Hey. I look your that dim from everyone else you've got a cow. I I I refused because I'm onto you. I have figured you out. Most are voodoo beads, and they are not going back to my house because I had a revelation last night. I saw I realized what happened. I accepted the gift that you gave me of the jinx jersey. The cowboy throwback number four Dak jersey. And so I had to post something on Instagram this morning in which I got rid of it could we see it right now. Because I will never be fooled acre sleaze you can we see see? That's my good jersey. That's my that's my jersey say door, Bah. Yes it. Yeah. That's my second one jersey. I love that jersey kiss that one and keep it here. It is. Here's the jinx jersey that hung in my closet on Saturday night with the stars on the hell on the shoulders. Back to me. And let it hang in my closet on Saturday night on loss because put it on you. Maybe I'm serious that is in the trash. You got me. And you got me with little Chucky Dickerson. Look at this. This is the creepiest thing look at the tunnel. Look at this thing. Let me tell you. I made this for you some witchdoctor this come from one of my sponsors Saturday, Eric what what happened on Saturday. The first of all I gotta say this after I left him the other day tell you only. In the car with him. Touch me that tells me here. Down south down the bit. 'cause I really really fight on the table. Is on the table would have football. I told you don't let Twenty-one beat us. Don't let put the game in my life that I do like that. I don't like that. I like this everybody else gets to that had a nice game. Did he had a really good game? But when you can't stop the run you can't stop the run you're going to win the football game. That's what it comes down to. I have a question for the two hall of famers did either of you on Friday predict that the LA Rams would run wild on the Dallas Cowboys. I didn't hear a word about that. From either of you. But I thought they could get one hundred yards between the two hundred two. That's did not say run the football Basta Kita game run the foot. We've not look you don't forsee to seventy three. I didn't for Seger forty eight. When I put it on. But to. What would the ram in y'all defense and rushing the ball skill? We played the car that was Tom Landry defend that was a long not helped me out. We're CJ Dickerson. Come from. That that was the best pickup in the history of the best pickup, you know. C J Anderson gives he that guy inside that that no one wants to tackle late in the game. You say they all like me. Uptown your own Patas. He looks fat to me. But when he runs hard he runs Mowlam, he'll Amish down could downhill run. That's it. He's not you. He's not like that. He is bowling my day is over with. I said this, and I keep saying it sounds like a repeat don't let twenty one if we took the ball out of his hands. And we did you just shut him down. And you put the ball Dax hands. You know, he made some great throws. I gotta give him credit. He threw one that should have been a pig bond and fifty every ever hit him right in the hands. Right. Fooled by zone-blitz. But it happens. That's football football. What else happened to seventy three? That's all I got seventy three. Let me remind everybody. My defense just one week earlier on Saturday night face the number one rushing attack in all appro football. Seattle's and held it to seventy three total. Yards after holding it to twenty two yards in the first half. Just took it away. My defense against drew Brees with Kamara and Ingram at Gerry world. Remember this late November on Thursday night. Just shut down at that point was one of the top rushing attacks. Right. Held it to sixty five total Russia in thirteen to ten win. So don't tell me. My defense doesn't have the talent or the ability. It wasn't about that. It's about desire. It's about want to it's about motivation, my coaches lit no fire under my defense, while Wade Phillips really lit one under years because all they heard all week was you have allowed a league worst five point one yards per carry my right about this. That's a fact that's a stat. I'm not exaggerating. I don't know how it happened. But that's what happened through sixteen regular season games. And all the sudden those two studs in the middle said, you know, what we're done with this. We're tired of this. They came out. And they just wanted the line of SCR. Worst than my offense of line did and my defensive line did not want the line of scrimmage got owned by your offensive line, which must be way better than I thought. It was happened. You guys you guys lost his game. You went to Indy. Co used always tell us don't put bad things on tape. Well, that was one hundred that was one hundred seventy eight Russia arts not care. They didn't show up. And I don't think they showed up for this game. What that showed the right? Because normally if you watch team you like hold on that was the number one rushing team. They shut them down. Logic says we need them ball because we can't run Sean McVay say blue jive. Okay. He did. And I gotta give him credit that because when you're the Boy Genius. You're the boy wonder your temptation is like in the the big shootout game with Kansas City up. Just keep throwing on in for once. He said, you know, what I can't do it. I can't my ego can't supersede. The what's the reality of this game? And the reality is I got two running backs who really good because C J Anderson. Running hot against era zone in San Francisco last two games. He came from skip. He got cut by the Broncos. He got he was the Carolina Pelley and then daddy activated. Then they released kind of raiders fan and he's getting. Get for five days, and John groups Jon Gruden one another playoff game, right? Executive of the year in office certain guys fit and he fits in this offense. He doesn't have to be guy. The main guy there is Todd Gurley. But right now, it's CJ Addison because he looks good. And another thing is. Here you waiting for you who's waiting him. He was waiting for you right there. CJ? That's a voodoo Dr J C J coming from the Broncos. He's one cut. He's down here. He's nothing fancy. No, not going to be doing Dookie, but come fool remember member the debacle at Denver game to last year. Remember when the Cowboys went to Dell he put one hundred one hundred and eighteen I think so. So again, you're coach could look at that tape and say, well, he was killing a men it's a little different defense with two different linebackers in there. He had a big and that Super Bowl ruin skip. He played really really well people forget that how he plays a why would Denver cut him. I don't get that. They give him a big that money either Freeman. And you skip you look at it. He's never gonna win the workout Olympics. He's never tickets. To do what you got it. Now, he's not. But if you wanna guy that you AC J nice gonna be one of those games. You're gonna get twenty cares. Gonna probably be hard seventy five yards national guy, and you go let it go. Whether you're right skip. I say once they one thing you, right? When you said that sometimes the coaches the geniuses. They wanna over think they really do like like when we lost to we lost to to to to the eagles. And we lost to got us. We lose two saints the saints. We lost to the saints. You know, I said we to run the ball the bears. You don't go down to Chicago. And throw the football forty four times you run the football. You kept saying all week this week. And I think Sean must have heard me run the football run at CJ. That is our secret weapon. Y'all saw it. I I know this week. I noticed saying, oh, he let that happen us. They will say that. And let that happen. I think you're gonna have to throw the football to win at New Orleans. We can do that. So back to what happened on Saturday night despite two hundred seventy three rush arts despite my quarterback, not having much Colby's -ly or much of like. Like jar win. So he he's down to two receivers. He's got a Mari and he's got gal. And that's about it, and he hung in and hung on and made play after little play after big play after little play and kept them afloat. And they did win the second half fifteen to ten. So you gotta give them. It looked like it had disaster. Look like it had blowout written all over. Right. But what happened in the second half? He gets it to eight. And then he got it to eight again because he just kept fighting. He will fight you to the finish. But there are two key turning point moments that I'm hanging on Jason Garrett, and he's probably going to be back because he announced today that Scott Linda Hannah's going to be back. I don't like either one of them. I was disappointed in the whole coaching staff. Explain this one to me. So it's an eight point game at the end of the third quarter. And decades another third down pass that comes up a half yard short. So it's fourth and one and there's a quarter break. So the whole coaching staff can confer on this one. It's not just on Linda hand Jason. Garrett a former coordinator former professional quarterback backing up. Troy Aikman has time to input into this decision. And the decision they come up with. Let's run Zeke straight up the gun. He's going nowhere fast the whole game. I don't know if he what his footing was bad, you pointed out that what's his name. Just stuck Dante vile of Jehovah run hailers, quote, we stuck in this stuff. Could be right about that. Okay. So now we get to the crew. This is the crucial point because this is at your 35-yard-line. He is on the move. He just completed three straight passes. So here we go. What do they call the most pathetically predictable runs straight up the middle? And think about what it is. There's a rookie left guard. There's a backup center. There's no Travis Frederick and the right guard who is a former pro bowler needs knee surgery, and he shouldn't have been playing to this point and watch you'll have knee surgery in the next week or so and you run him straight in to the biggest to rocks and pro football the two pillars to cornerstones in Aaron Donald and dumb consume the two most immovable objects in all a pro football are sitting right there and not only does it get blown up. But looney the centre gets knocked back off the ball, so hard. He makes the task lawns Zeke. He hits him right in the face and Zeke falls backward. Okay. Why don't you? Let four do something. Why don't you fake it? Let him run the read option or. Bootleg or little rollout. Pass. What is what is Sean McVay call on the crucial play? Now, I get to the next play its third and seven at your twenty eight yard line late in the game. And Dak is going to get the ball back. Again. This is the game. And I'm not betting against that Prescott. If he gets the ball back there because it's down eight we just seen him converted two point conversion and these two guys are a little queasy. They're just a little like a we don't want to get. Yeah. Little queasy and what a Sean McVay call a rollout off. He's under center. Play action to CJ Dickerson. Right right up handy rolls. The other way he rolls to his right is Jared Goff running quarterback not really real really just play. Well, he he goes. I don't know where he's just wonders inside like v played him stay outside. He tackled town. But I gotta tell you you have taken out the kid who gave the spirit and life to that. Offense all year late and Vander is he sick. I don't know. I don't care. He was sick attack list. Maybe they do maybe they decided because he's a little tall and skinny right now. Maybe he was too light in the, you know, maybe they just decided we gotta get the old pro in there. Sean Lee, Sean Lee hasn't played football in a year and a half and all the sudden in the pivotal crucial game of the year at the key moment, you put Sean lien for Vandross, and Sean Lee takes higby on a little it's just a little down and out. And if you're that guy that you used to be because he used to be really good you come off higby, and you make that that job you say job. This is not a do your job play. This is a full instinct is a star play. Where if you're that guy you come off hit because you know, he's got a run seven yards not to yards three yards. You gotta run seven yards. He gets eleven yards. And if you see hit be just sort of shields them off, Sean Lee has to to watch look back and say he is talked and he is running. What did they talk while you? Looking in the back. You look at Joe, man. This is the play of the game. This is the one where if you're a hall of Famer you just make the play again, I didn't do ad-lib going out. You guys are often players, but you're a defensive player, you know. And I know the studs the immortals, they're the ones who on instinct alone. Well, my Simon zipped, but I gotta do that. Because if Sean Lee comes up and tackles him at six yards, we're having a different commun- iphone. Yeah. You're not going forward at your thirty four yard time. He did it before. Now. What are you? You wouldn't go for on the on the fourth and inches fourth in one to me. Was that a bad call? Yes. I would. I mean, I call I say man, they will read option. That's what I said. Because they go up the mill, but you know, all year. Now, they think about this. If you watch the Rams all you people have been running up the middle five point one up the middle. So that's a good call to and if they make it they run you say, great coal that was a great call tough run by z. You say at least run them off. Tackled angle, you know, what? In those kind of football in the worst thing for running back to do get the running away this way because you'll power is straightened out that dislike CJ Wison straight downhill. That's while the powers, I understood the play. But what I was afraid of was the readout, man. Okay. And went back because I know they bite on they gonna bite on z and dangled tip around outside. But just like Jason Garrett did right up to middle. Always trust to do the wrong thing. Doc with time to get to everything in this Eric thank you for the the Rams are on our New Orleans. Rematch for you, guys. You're gonna be back later in the show. But thank you for always some. I don't want to. Chiefs. Are they on their way to the Super Bowl discussing young now? And back to the NFL we go the chiefs had no problem beating the colts in this. Oh Saturday, and they made history in the process Casey became the first team in playoff history with a rushing touchdown by a running back wide receiver and quarterback in the same game on the defensive side the chiefs sack inr luck three times, and they will now host the championship game for the first time ever on Sunday against the patriots, Shannon. How impressive were the chiefs. Go to one of their most impressive game, skipped giving them. A whole didn't play particularly well normally has to be extraordinarily not for them to win. And since Kareem hunt who the third leading rusher at the time of suspension and ultimate missile. They haven't been able to run the ball with any consistency. But they ran the ball for one hundred and eighty yards five point five yards. A carry. I was also surprised I believe in that coaching. I think you'll agree with me on this. They have the best into lighting football. And I thought so ever them. And what happened they fail behind? So they weren't able to run it. They ran it for five yards of care, but they didn't have enough rush attempts. But the amount of pressure that they were able to generate on Andrew luck sacked three times almost picking got scripts that so I thought I thought overall I thought Kansas City played well, given that the defense isn't very good special against a pass. They don't do particular teams. Don't run the ball because why gonna run it when I can just throw it whenever I want to. I thought the key moment of the game Kansas City was complete control of this ball game. And then all of a sudden you hit a double third putt lot to. And now, what are you gonna do? Now got a quarterback at first you're starting you've seen this kind of play out before. And what are they do? My father ten plays seventy five yards. Order is restored twenty four seven boom ballgame. Now, Andrew luck didn't play particularly. Well, I'm being nice. He didn't play. Well, and all the overnight on third down. You're not you win a game you go over down third. Skip your deepest play phenomenal. 'cause you got a couple of scores and pick six so but giving Kansas City and what they've been dealing with. Because we know what they off represent. They got killed. They got a tyreek hill, and but. Considering that I thought Mahomes homeboy MVP going VPN thought I thought that in their didn't play particularly. Well, miss him. Throws. I thought I thought Kansas City, very impressed. He missed some throw missing throaty, miss them. Yeah. Yeah. He missed Rick. He missed how Rican far cross and in any overthrew Kelsey on seven route. Which is interesting. My take is very different from your take. Because I made the mistake that I will never make again the rest of my life. I made the mistake of betting on Andrew lots to win a big game. And I bet it with my heart instead of my head. I bet it with my heart because I wanted Tom Brady. He's. AM game and home. So I wanted Andrew luck and company 'cause he seemed to have a lot of company is they came into that game. I wanted them to go in there and upset the chiefs and then have to go to Foxborough. We're Tom Brady obviously would get back to yet another super has nine Super Bowl. Now, it's going to be different. And it's going to be hard. But what did I see you are being very nice to Andrew luck? I thought he was mostly pathetic in this game. Good. He had a QBR of nineteen point seven scale of zero to one hundred which is just pathetic. And I asked the question is his shoulder still bothering him. Because all I saw was a lot of push passes and very slow on the draw very deliberate. Like, I'm gonna push the ball over here to this guy. And it seemed like every other past got tipped or batted at the line of scrimmage with give it word like twenty degrees. Well, maybe cold for the dome team do when they. Go outside. He grew up in Houston torched the Texans in Houston play in the dome. But it looked to me like once you take away his run game, which was taken why no Marlin MAC to speak of to your point. And once you're hot defense looks cold in Kansas City against that kid and all those weapons then all the sudden Andrew lucked got exposed in this game. And again somebody I know somebody very near to me right now had the audacity to suggest that Andrew lucked belonged on the Pro Bowl. Team ahead of Tom Brady is just laughable base it on payoff. I it's just this guy. Well, that's the case Janice, it should be in the Pro Bowl, promo performances. He should be actually if you but you on Michigan. You ought to be ashamed for even suggesting that Andrew luck. It's. Down. Fifteen picks is just completely misleading. It was a Mirage, and it it just blew up in the one in five for them to go one in five and make it to the playoffs. And when it playoff game. I don't think it was his doing he contributed, but I think it was Marlin MAC being the hottest back. All four games the last five or six games, go at what he did. But while he was getting season. Andrew luck had as great game of three touchdowns. A what happened Saturday may my fault? I just picked the wrong the bigger the game the worst. I don't it's. Okay. Kid city get paid to what do you do just go lay down? But speaking of Kansas City, I appreciate your objectivity because I thought the cute one very accurate onset. Oh, no. He was throwing all over the lot and he will rock in fire and sometimes they're wild. Hi, while low, but you know, what I love about his receivers they they have such that they they love playing with they make catches for him. That are unbelievably good that were just snatches him everywhere. Kelsey Mehta catch when Mahomes side on the ball. And he threw it from behind the guy in so Kelsey doesn't get enough between to pick the ball up until late. And that's the hardest catch because there's a receiver. I'm trying to pick the ball up out of the quarterback's hands Kip. It's quick as I possibly can. And you know, sometimes how guy flashed in front of you, you drop them all well, all of a sudden the ball you let look for you. You see Mahomes? He throws the ball from behind someone. And all of a sudden you like you look at him. And is there, but it's like contagious magic. We think I'm going. I'm supposed to catch this because it's a magical throw, and it's going to be a magical cab. I it it just like a rub off effect on everybody. Tyreek makes catches say. How did he do that? Sammy made a couple on Saturday where I said how do that? It's because they love playing with this kid, he enlisted Damian Williams. I watched him every snap. He played at the university of Oklahoma. He has talent they're lucky to have him. He got booted out of the Oklahoma program. We won't get into all that. But. You know, Andy Reid has a lot of bad. I just want him to go. I just want him to keep moving forward because sometimes he'll get the ball and he'll run back with sometimes you'll catch up with. He he has some hair close in. Yeah. So I'm not sure they're missing Kareem hunt that give you the third leading rusher. Well, he was made illegal in fairly run on saying. But they had what they have hundred eighty yards rush. Yeah. That'll work is the only real cold on. It'd be like ten degrees. Rear colon. It is the better. Tom bro- seems to play. Why that is definitely that's the that's when you put hands on ios receivers. Make Tom Brady throw the ball down the field. If he got that kind of act. Learn how. Oh, no, my homeboy. Do what you better not disappear like Bosa Ingram disappeared. Right. Those pass rushers both they used to play LA. And before that it was the San Diego guy used the dice. This is why Andy moved up to get a guy the plan elements elements have no factor because he can still Zik. It's zip the ball sixty ours. Even in those conditions, even though he grew up in Texas got underway. Brought up Tom Brady. The weather. He doesn't seem to be phased. But Shannon, and Eric Dickerson. They've been the leaders of the Tom Pam hater club. Now. What I don't know we need some on liberal. Liberal. That's what they keep saying. Cursing and Tom Brady is moving onto his eighth straight AFC championship game after his patriots easily beat the chargers yesterday Brady threw for three hundred yards with TD pass in the win. Next up is a trip to Kansas City where the patriots are already three point underdog despite meeting the chiefs back in October yesterday Brady headed interesting response when he was asked about the upcoming rematch. Let's hear a good game. They're a good team. We played them early this year. I know everyone thinks we suck. And you know. Can't win any games. So we'll see it'll be fun. Any join once again Dickerson, Eric you have been critical of Brady gear. How impressive was he yesterday? Erica's, shannon. Thinking. Tom Brady is a great quarterback. I'm not taking that away from him. At all. I mean, great quarterback. It's hard to beat the pages in Foxborough, especially this time of year. I'm really disappointed the way that the charges play. But you know, pages are the patriots and the charges are charges. The charge are the charges for reason. I think that he played a great football game. I mean, he had three hundred forty three yards passing. I think he was forty three people thirty twenty seven forty four something like thirty four four million one touchdown. I think the the big factor in that football game. And the patriots are not known for this is running the football Sunday, Michelle. I mean, he had they will on occasion. Yeah. But but they'll runs mostly check down. That's not good. That's what they do. They do the best. But you have a running back in his three touchdowns one hundred twenty nine yards in the playoffs. You know, this that pretty much you're gonna win the football game because it gave it gave a balance. I mean element. He had to hunt. No one fifty one fifty one. I mean, you gotta say he he was phenomenal. But I'll say this Tom Brady does not play games just to win playoff games. He's playing to win the Super Bowl. He wants to prove all of us all of us were on that that that's what this is all about. And I'll say I'll say this to all the Boston fans. I watched him on social media day. They after after me, we want a rematch from in LA. We want them back again because they cheated us. They cheated. They cheated us. They know that she did back in New Orleans. They washed out fan. So we want some more them. But how did Tom Brady play yesterday? Fantastic. You have to give them all the credit in the world. Even still I still say he's an old man for football just football. But he's but he's taking football. I still throw it. You know for me. He played unbelievable. I'm disappointed. I'm not disappointed in the way. Tom brady. Tom Brady's gonna be Tom Brady. I'm disappointed in the charges because they know adjustments. You know, what you'd have to do yet? The pressure Tom Brady re-route get hands get biblical receivers. Well. And normally eighty one of the thing we go in there. We're gonna stop the opposing team's run. We're gonna make them one dimensional. Well, if you give the team they run the ball with sunny, Michelle whenever they want to. He can throw the ball five yards of the he had forty four tempted passes thirty seven of those passes traveled less than ten yards. So in other words, he's doing all this fishing around age. And you're not gonna do anything. You're not gonna try to reroute. The receivers he threw what two two or three dollars over fifteen yards. Get that's not Tom Brady. Tom Brady's gonna take. What you give him. Charging for that. He was comfortable. He was too comfortable. Didn't get press. You got knocked down twice one of us. Will do you? Don't you don't you? Don't knock him down. You don't rerouted receivers. You don't stop to run? And you you play zone defense guys can go to vacate areas it what to do expect to happen loss. You ain't listen. I think the thing is that when you we we measure Tom Brady, we see when you great mean. This is what I tell people or you say you say when you measure Tom Brady, I guess a thirty two year old Tom Brady, you don't measure him against anybody else. That's currently played you measure him against the greatness that he set for himself. Same thing with the bronze same thing. Jordan. You don't compare great greats two other players currently play you measure them against their younger self. So that's what EDNA where we say. That Tom Brady getting old and he's not the same player. That was standing Tom Brady was virtuoso, and am I surprised they want? No. But I'm surprising how convincing and how Barrelli they won the game. I tried to warn both of. I told you there's one man in all of sports, you do not bet against especially in Foxborough, Massachusetts. And it's number twelve for the New England Patriots. Tom Brady was better than ever yesterday. He looked thirty two or twenty five or whatever number. You wanna hang on him because he just never been better than he was in this game. It was virtually flawless that was artist at work. He sliced and he dies, and he surgically just carved up a zone defense that basically just sat all afternoon, that's death about thousand papers. It is that. But to me, I see no diminished velocity. It's the same as ever. I saw lasers thrown by Tom Brady. I saw as quick release as I've ever seen from Tom Brady. I saw touch and feel and quick readability that that was up there with the best of Tom Brady. It was it was something in this man is on a new mission because he's never been an underdog since that first Super Bowl, you think you've got cheated in the process all that Saint Louis Rams L A. But I got you. But that's the last time he's been an underdog and that was a long time ago. He's been a prohibitive favorite much of his career. If not all of them, and all of a sudden everybody is discounting and doubting Tom and everybody says, oh it signs of h he's washed up. He's over the hill. And I wanna thank both of you for saying that because I need you to keep on keeping on I need you to doubt him a need you to tell the world that there's no way he gets out of Kansas City alive because it's going to be too cold for the forty one year old in his hands are going get they're going to shrink and his receivers are gonna get roughed up by those Kansas City. I'll tell you what if you do what can't San Diego. Did he go into the night Angra boat? Way. But you gotta try something. I'm here to tell you. There's more talent on the chargers defense than there is on Kansas City's maybe the plan will be different. Maybe they'll play with more confidence because they have had their members left on that defense who have had some success against Brady in the opener two years ago you recall, and then we can't go back to the twenty fourteen game. They would be there. Yeah. For sure and Eric Barry's got a calf issue. So I don't know if he's going to be able to play. But he would know if you've got a Catholic hang it'll be playing eighty nine cold. But this is a new deal for Tom Brady because he realized he is he's a shrewd operator at he understands history, and he realizes this could be his crowning achievement. If he can get this team and this defense and this lack of receivers to another Super Bowl and win. It would you guys not have to sit back and say. I gotta give it up give it up. Anyway, you have like you can't say that a guy that has been to eight Super Bowls one six five five Super Bowls is not if not the greatest quarterback. I mean, it's only one of the guy that I argue with Joe Montana. I mean, and that's he that a table go to even go that either one of those guys. I mean what I take him. Yes. I would most he's a great thing about Tom Brady is he's a great competitor. And that's what you want out of your quarterback yesterday. He was he took everything we say. So you know, what I'm gonna show these guys? They say he said what did say outside is building. The matter. Don't hear this. It is. Yeah. And he enlisted just anybody. It's gotta come from a hall of Famer win all when this hall of Famer he's kind of an old, man. I'm only old. When he says Tom brazen old man who shouldn't be playing play. Time is coming to an end time is coming to all of us old man for football. All the being the club. And I'm gonna limit twenty. I'm over that. Came to the past. Oh, I keep it crew. Nine. Montana. He's got twelve more playoff wins. The playoff would differ. They see they real-. It was different back in those days. And let me tell you what it was that game. When we play a lot more physical. You could really hit the quarterback. Hey, that's it. It's a different era and one thing in in the playoff Joe, Montana. Never doing this action now want to boat, and I suppose. Not now. But I I gave credit skip Tom has not been an underdog in the sumo. He's been under underdog in playoff games. He's underdog in the championship game against Denver both times that's true fairly, and and and when they played in India when they painting I but talking about for the year like this is the time whenever I saying it's over for New England. All right. Good to have you. I'm glad you're still wearing your. No. Baseball over football. This story lonelier. Cuyler Murray has until today's deadline to decide if he'll enter the NFL draft, according to W F A Cuyler wants more guaranteed money from the Oakland A's to stick with baseball. He already received a four point six million dollar signing bonus. When he was drafted last year ESPN reports the as would need to sign him to a major league deal to offer him more money, which would be unheard of for guy. That's never played a game in the minor. So skip. Yes. What is going on Jeanne, Shannon? We have never seen anything quite like this. We now have major league baseball fighting to hang onto a collar Murray it badly needs and trying to keep him away from football in which in college. He just won the Heisman Trophy. And the reason I believe that major league baseball is behind this push is so badly needs African American stars in my time. Growing up African American stars dominated the sport for me. It was Willie Mays and Hank Aaron and my my hero idol, Bob Gibson and Lou Brock with the cardinals. And then Frank Robinson and Willie Stargell in Ernie banks. I can go on they dominated the sport all the way up to Reggie Jackson, obviously Yankees as and that was it. And then all of a sudden we saw decline, and we saw a lot of kids of all ages lose touch with baseball. So all the sudden you have a Kyle Murray. Who's who's not particularly charismatic off the field? But is not cares Matic with the football under his arm. Throwing it a running. And again, I haven't watched him play baseball his numbers weren't scintillating. But if Billy bean says you can play, and I know Billy very well. By the way, Brad Pitt played him in a movie called money ball off the great book moneyball. That's how big a deal he is. And he is now as we speak. Leading the contingent to Dallas to try to convince Cuyler to play baseball. And they I don't know their wild figures thrown out they've been discounted. But maybe up to fifteen million that they've been authorized to to offer him. So they can go way beyond what you can now offer given the four point six six that he was offered as the what nine all pick. This lot of all of a sudden they see his stock rising in the NFL. The NFL is look I would not be shocked. I know they have said no to this but cliff Kingsbury and Arezzo I wouldn't be shocked if they somehow traded Josh Rosen and took number one overall collar Murray, I know he would be the shortest quarterback who's ever played at about five nine maybe five nine, but I think he can play. I think he can be at least as good as Russell Wilson or Doug Flutie, whoever you wanna make the comparison to in either. Leave his heart is still a football heart big power play because they need him. So. Oh, I think that heave. I understand. Why baseball is? I understand. Why baseball warning? Because get look they want someone that can captivate. We'd no we haven't. They haven't had anybody to. They haven't greatest as great as Mike trout is just blah. There's something there's no charisma on or off the when win winning. So we don't get it. Because my. Oh, my might try and goes away. He does. So the most interesting thing he does is sit in the stands in Philadelphia for the eagles games. He. Scott Boris is the most powerful agent in the world is in the middle of the now you remember him go. She ate it. He also Bryce Hopper's eighteen. Yeah. Bryce harper. Got a ticket below ten million dollars. But it was like minutes before he's about to go back into the draft. Again, the following year Strasbourg who the pitcher lane through. Yeah. He got four years fifteen minutes, but it was negotiated minutes before he was about to go back in this is a power place. How because we got leverage now before he played football. He was the night thinking to make MLB draft. You really had no leverage. Okay. Tonight pick. This is what you get you win the Heisman Trophy. And I'm bout to submit my name because just because he doesn't mean he can't go play baseball. But if he doesn't mean he can't go play football. So he's doing this technicality athlete believe he's going to meet his name draft, regardless of what you could do that. But you still have to do it pretty soon. It's gonna come push to shove because February fifteenth. Either got to go to baseball camp or not Scott how much money can you get me MO money MO money MO money? Well, if they're gonna win about the money, or is it about your heart about his heart? This would have never been in play. Wayne at some point. You just wanna make decision and stick with it. No well gonna make a decision between minutes twenty million in my bag Akao without 'em. Make my decision a lot easier. Skip. I don't know. What do you think you're going to be happier? Playing football. I'm new start. What do you think? He's going to do. Boy, this is a lot of power leverage that they are throwing at this kid MLB. They got all these people showing up for modem. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully base. He's still has to go start in Stockton, California. Right. Which is able we twenty million in my pocket is a lot easier to go to Stockton busy day. I'll go with waiting on his decision moving on is Jason Garrett. The right guy to lead. How to jumper goal in the future your we'll discuss your job. Jay paypal. Jason job appears to be safe. According to NFL network the Cowboys in ten una gauche eating a long term deal with Garrett. He has led Dallas to just two playoff wins since he became head coach in twenty eleven and skip I can already feel your face. They give carrot and extension. This is my worst nightmare. More Jason Garrett. You just know it's coming and unfortunately, more Scotland hand, you just know that's coming to Jason said this morning that Lynn Eoghan is back coach clap is going to be back. But for it's possible fears to come look both of these guys are really great guys. And both are not bad. What they do. But not bad is not good enough for a team that you you have to see how Super Bowl potential and this year was good news bad news for me because the bad news was the good news that they roared back from three and five when both of those guys were in trouble to eleven in six including the playoff win over Seattle. And now Jason geared is golden I just can't argue out of that. I can call for his job again. And again, and it's just not going to matter because Jerry Jones likes personally, and is very comfortable with him and his puppet head coach is very comfortable with that situation. He just is in and now at the very least they tried a new direction with the new coordinator, but eleven and seven is just good enough to keep. Scotland Eoghan afloat as well in it. Just drives me nuts. You won the vision. So you knew once he got back into playoff contention. He wanted the vision skip it was gonna be next next impossible because he kept him his first three years when he was eight and had no glimpse of the playoffs. So he kept him. So you could think the last two tour two three years give he wins. He win the NFC east. You know Bogo. It was a foregone conclusion. I personally wouldn't do it skip. But this situation perfect for Jerry. Everybody knows Jason is not coaching the team. Skipped most coaches do not allow owners to speak to the team before. He does most coaches don't allow the owner to save. Okay. This players play. This guy's. This guy's going hour. We're gonna possibly look to do. That's not what happens. So. So Jason Garrett perfectly content is let Jerry duoc Iraq. Dow, no, he's not gonna rock that yacht eggs, actually. But let me tell you what you won't get you won't get a shot McVay with that. Nope. You won't get a Sean Payton. Eaten with that? You will not so. But you know, this when you become the Dallas Cowboys head coat. Everybody will tell you. You know, what you're signing up for? I mean, if you sign up for Jim don't expect them to teach you mathematics. I agree. Jason is the first one who took it who accepted what it was even Wade Phillips who had a great night the other night, just he's gonna push back occasionally, he's a good guy. But he's he's a tough guy too. He's guy. I pushing back. I let me check do. Yeah. Yeah. You wanna ELO, you know, I was going to dress. You guys I, but Jerry said had something he wanted to tell you come on Jerry come on to talk to them. Right quick. So once again, it's time here for the quarterback to overcome the head coach and the coordinator yacht. Yeah. Jason Gary, go rock the boat. What did he go home his wife? He go home, easy, man. I had to stand up, Jerry. You it. If you go Meghan apologize. Do you? See Libby, Jerry pay for this. Usually the private school kids. Go into Jerry pay for that. Now, you go right back down there to the cold in Frisco difference. Go you go right back to Frisco. And you apologize J for standing up the hill. If they will never happen again in don't come back home until you do why didn't she say, go Pala jobs to skip on dispute? Good idea apologize. News, all they gotta do. Go for them Ford down like Jerry asked me to do stem the sideline clap stay out of the way. He's the Graham. Okay. Speaking of the Cowboys LeBron James when do the game on Saturday night. Why didn't he support his favourite? Neck. Time for final topic of the day. Lebron had a night off from work on Saturday. So we went to the Coliseum to watch the Cowboys and Rams LeBron is a noted Cowboys fan, but he wasn't wearing any Dallas here and even went into the Rams locker room before the game. He said it was because he use the restroom Shannon surprise. Come down surprised that all he already go happen. He knew the count will be trying to jump to give. I don't know. If you remember this. You remember nineteen Seventy-three? There was a fight that happening Kingston Jamaica. Okay, George Foreman and Joe Frazier. Don King was Joe Frazier's. He wrote in the limo too. We're talking about LeBron James here at the cowboy game. When the show is going to end. Check your man, they leave. We don't care that you always leave with the champion. You go into locker room at a champion. Is that right? What sell out guy is Hollywood Grahn is all about protecting his image. He used the restroom in rent. You know, what the cowboy locker room is right across the one. Why don't knock on that? They're no they're right across each other. Thousand. They didn't. The walkway. What what you are now permanently banned from the cowboy fan club visit valley. No, more liberal disqualified you sold out anymore. Cowboy KO he wore cowboy LA he went to the Browns game against the Cowboys with an enemies, mid jersey on tragedy. All they were trash time. How about the Tommy were Yankee hat to the Cleveland and? The. Okay. What is time? 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Eric Dickerson: Peaks & Valleys of Stardom and The Power of Kindness

The Playbook

23:57 min | 2 years ago

Eric Dickerson: Peaks & Valleys of Stardom and The Power of Kindness

"His day Meltzer with the playbook, and I have legendary running back. Eric dickerson. Joining me to talk about one of my favorite, topics kindness. He talks about how being kind to his future self assisted him in never quitting. Even though he wanted to how it helped him decide on splitting time as well. As most importantly, be kind to your future self has made his brand off the field bigger than ever. Join me with all of that and more on the playbook. This is entrepreneurs the playbook each week. I bring you some of the tweet is athletes celebrities and entrepreneurs to talk about their personal and professional playbook to success in what made them champions on the field. And in the boardroom. I'm your host and CEO of sports one marketing, David Meltzer. They both recedo sports marketing here with entrepreneurs the playbook, and I have the ram Bassett. What am I good friends there? Dickerson day. Thank you so much to meet me at the Super Bowl early. But gets to the kind of guy that you are from the very first time that I met you when I was at least I am Berg, there's certain individuals that we really surprise you. Because they have no reason to be so kind and generous to everyone in your graciousness has I think propelled your career afterwards. More than anything else. And you mentor people on that how to act off the field. We're did those characteristics. Come from you'll because everyone doesn't have be starting. You know, it gave them my dad again, my mom and my dad, you know, my dad, always sits you treat people the way you want to be treated is as easy to be kind to a person to be cool. And I believe that and people don't forget, you know, most people like elephants, you know, they have a long member. If you do something say something till child team to them, you know, the young age, and I remember I don't like. Him. And I've heard it several times about athletes and actors you mentioned that I don't like him when I was thirteen years old. He says when I was with my son asked him his autograph and even just overruled to him. You know, really, I I just believe it is just it's we should we should treat each other kindly does not believe in. I talked to players about it. Don't let this game full you in because one day this game will be over. And I'm talking about the game of football and even the game of life. You know, that these guys they get caught up on being to ever Eric Dickerson Weber you either the name that you have. And you think you're going to be that guy forever? Where you are what you're not going to be twenty one. You know, they'll be twenty two twenty three fairway it'll be a day where you shared that a uniform, and you're and then and your hair energy recur, and and things are different. So, you know, that's that's that's my motto. You know, it's interesting because I around a lot of really. Amazing people I call it. They carry the spirit of excellence, but the ones who are kind of the ones that stand out to me. In fact, we're here Dr J Alanna for the Super Bowl. I I was a ball boy for the San Diego clippers when I was twelve and my first game I wanted to quit because Crema BIL Jabbar was so mean to me, call me boy awesome. Crack literally cried imam said you're not a quitter. I went back Dr J the next game was playing the clippers that hand on my back, which was bigger than my back called me, son. See some extra socks over there. You want those let me sign those. So who would have known that? I ended up running the most notable sports agency, and one of the most common questions when I get interviewed is, you know, who are the nicest your favorite hobbies, and right, and Dr J is always lit from what he did not not for anything in my career. I never represented them. But when I was twelve years old, he touched me to that note. You do do a lot of business coaching blasted right now code CJ fact CG came out of my house before when he was released from the Rams. I mean, the raiders, and I was shifting his energy and his perspective. It was funny because he brought you up and you'll there in southern California Zane. Yeah. He goes, I like to take attitude like Eric, and you don't have this positive perspective. We both we're talking like Joel's being how you throughout your career. You've had ups and downs. You know, SMU all types of things, but you've always taken that positive perspective. How important is that on the field and off the field to look at everything kind of with the bright side of it the glass half. No, this, you know, everything is not Rosie in all the time. And people must understand that, you know, people look at at at myself, or they'll look at an athlete. They like if it's the Brian James if it's Todd Gurley whoever many guided may may got it made, but they don't understand these peaks and valleys, I mean, it's a lot of this. And then you got these days, and you have these those and I've had them. I mean, I've Adam, you know, I go back to you know, even. Going back to high school when you know, I I didn't I didn't get along my Hoskin coach I was a number one recruiting in the whole nation and me and my coaching. And and really I mean at that point he was a true racist in and the word because he'd never goes black years before and the way he tried to talk to us every black hitting one point quit. I quit to quit playing football. And a guy kind, of course, me to go back, and I'll never forget what he said to me tick known in my hometown because my mom she didn't care for Bob. But she said I want you to be able to the quick Bill quitter. And he's asked me in my hometown is on the two thousand people, and he's Eric what do you see here? I said nothing he said exactly there's nothing here, son. He said you wanna best athletes we've ever seen in these parts. And I was I think at that point. I was in my sophomore year, then sixteen years old, and I'm like best best athletes while a lot for the young kids exorb- absorb. But basically, I went back and I played and. I was recruited by everyone. But still being him did not see eye to eye getting my lad, one of the last conversations I had with him because he wanted me to go to university of Texas course, and good banned in Texas. I didn't want to invest, but I wouldn't sushi if I wanted to go there, and I told him he said, I just tell the school. You're not interested in going to college. I said I told him like this not United young kid. I don't eat you. I said schools want me they're gonna housing, and they and they did they did get a kick U T out of your house. Sure, they threaten your Bobby job in Texas. You got it. So you know, you got the ups and downs. I got to SMU with things graded us than you at first. No because I didn't want to go there. Not first choices Oklahoma. That's what I want to go to college. But my my mom, and my great great aunt who raised me, and that was another peaking down because my dad had passed away the year before and I was hard. I mean that was that was devastating to me. You know, my dad passed, and I still remember the date November third nineteen seventy seven and, you know, been positive, you know, going to college and all that and dealing with with my with my my mother at the time. And you know, I want to go to old you they can't recruitment very hard. I committed to them, and when they left she said, you're not going to school that I never get. I'm like you said you're not going to. She said, I don't trust that man. And I was Barry Switzer. She didn't trust. She sees a lie and. Come home on with, you know, if you're not going and that caused a rip in the house, but yeah, I couldn't say, you know, as you know, as a young kid, blessed black, you learn you don't talk about your parents. Right. And so I'm like, all right. And that was questioning me. So eventually I ended up making the decision to go to SMU I'm going to I don't like the story long. But and I always say this is the best decision. She made for me. It really is. I gotta say it's the best decision may me when run my can't recruit me he was not like we're not at the top of the list. But you know, when he talked to my mother, and I won't forget he was she was because she looked at all of them kind of, you know, like, I'm not sure what you know. You know, what you the right person or whatever. But as she kept saying, you'll get one chance one shot at it. Once you get one shot to do this. Right. So you want to do it. Right. And he was there talking to in. He said miss Dixon, kinda hungry to eat here. So sure she said, let's got some shaking said come. I have to cook. It really. Yup. And when he went in, and he helped my mother I said, oh that's lost. I. I knew I was go. I was born spreads me boys and the ponies usually in Craig James. And and even that wasn't that was like took off like that started very slow. I mean, I wouldn't have found that we create wasn't a fan of it. Either. Splitting time you talked about leaving. I'll talk about leaving. I wanted to go to back to you. Again. I went through that whole thing. Again, my mother again, and you know, she nixed that again, so. Eventually I would say my junior year is when going to come as kind of creep down. I give them credit. I was prepared to God for sure I mean because without him. This is not possible. But my best friend was still best miss Charles Drayton. I won't forget he I was talking to him. When I was like, man. I'm just I don't splitting time. I'll like it. You know? And I don't like it either. You know, they don't like it. I mean, I'm better than this. And I gotta tent cares. I could show and I won't forget his replace Eric. He said if you as good as you say, you are he said you need to cares. You do with the q carries? You get you. You'll you'll do something I show you, and I did I mean sometimes I cared about fourteen times two hundred yards. I cared eighteen times. But one ninety so then that's how the pony express county kinda caught on you know, it was amazing. There's a eagle analogy with nest about a mother eagle the baby eagle mom just feed it sits in that nest. Does nothing but get coddled fed and then one day. Hey, they throw them out of the nest. And that's what makes England eagle the throws him out. And I look and see Jay and Todd right? They split time. And they'll easily I think both get over on yards in the Super Bowl. And of course, they don't want us would time either. But I think there's some benefit that happens. We struggles one interesting thing that you said I didn't realize I think a lot of generation today and don't realize the races environment that existed in the seventies. My my business partner. People don't remember Warren Moon, spins football, better than anyone still in history had to go to Canada for six years and people were telling them more than just play receiver. Right. It wasn't because some some of their scouting fourteen. I worked for Li literally said because he wasn't tall enough or wasn't. They would make up any reason would smart enough. That was a big actually said not intelligent intelligent and tells me because the color of your skin really, I mean. Yeah. I mean, tell you. I mean, even right in two thousand nineteen is still a lot of prejudice. I mean, or it's not it's not right? I mean, I just caught him like a see it. I say this quite often. And you know, and I'm not the guy that said, you know, I got a blog out of white. It's my white friend. And I got I got a friend. Why I mean to my my best friend? I'm talking about my my boys. A why got outta ligaments being white? I don't look at that. I think it'd be random Chris. But does does it. I mean, when you say ride my best guy in the whole world is my friend, Charles bathing, those three are just those guys. You know, it's saying that it's like that. But yes, it's it's a lot of racism and injustice in sports and outside of sports one most definitely because I would say this about women. I said magic putting on those six years in the National Football League. What would the numbers be there'd be off the charts? You I mean. But it it is what it is. And you don't. You don't do on that. I mean, I'm not the guy that looking past. Oh, man, if I could do such is life. That's that's life. Be you've taken on a leadership role as well. I know one of the big things that you're working for you've always help the players current players path players transitioning players, but a big deal for you. Today's health insurance for all players all players, you know, and looking at the organizations, and we look at the money, and I'm blessed to know like Bobby bell played for seventy eight hundred dollars drove a taxi in the off season and probably could play almost every position in the term. Right Ingraham insurance. Yeah. I mean, I understand thing is is I think everyone thinks that when you plan NFL, you say NFL, you say that rich they automatically made all these Meza dollars. Not true. I mean my first contract. I was the second player in the draft. It was John Elway. Make the story. Short. Elway was making a million dollars. I was making a hundred fifty thousand you. You is that a good comparison. That's that's a big drop off again drop off. But it is it was what it was. But, you know, for as you know, the healthcare thing man, it's a struggle because understand a lot of athletes don't have him care. I mean, the ones that play now if they retire I think they have for five years, and they then this afternoon to pick it up, but you don't have the problem with five years. You haven't fifteen years ten twelve twenty years down the line problems too. I mean, we have a lot of money people think you'll coming as an entrepreneur who's made a lot of money lost money money. I understand money, and it blows my mind. I'm like just because guy makes two million dollars and a half years. You're there's a long way. You got you got how you got the divorce when you start making money. Bad bad investments? I mean because you know, athletes, we're not we're not investment rules. We we don't we don't you depend on your agent or sometimes. A new know which is dumb or financial guy to guys in the right direction. And most of them don't I mean, most of them don't I bet you eighty five percent of guys they do lead these guys wrong direction. Which is why you know, there's a whole bunch of movements mount. And then coach a lot of players in transition always told the seventy five percent players that always go bankrupt since member the Sports Illustrated article would Li right? All those. It's still the exact same percentage today. There's more knowledge these more financial planners certification, all the things the reason is you apathy. And I think the same thing hurts players, you know, talked to a lot of players is that they need a leader to to go ahead and fight or at least raise awareness to. Hey, you know, what we deserve this. You know? Yes. But I think the thing the I think one of the main problems is that when you come along, and you come up as an athlete. Athlete's loyal really light like like like old row for the dog that we're loyal Dowa guys your friends. And sometimes the wrong for a lot of times wrong in the wrong. Guys running around you around you for the wrong reasons, and you'd bring them along. And it's like, I got a guy, you know, that knows how to do this. I got you know, I this financing guy over here. And or I got investment, I got this at this property, you know, we can make in most of the guys they don't know that circle, you know, they don't they they don't know that that playing field. They understand about stocks and bonds, they don't understand about trying to, you know, say flip property, you know, or or making investment angel make his young don't invest your money gets for free stuff. Get stuff for free use your name. And so that's where allow the problems come in. And tell you something it happens all the time all the time. I mean expected to the black athlete let me just say that you know, it happens to us ally. Because you know, we we didn't come from that we didn't we didn't camp from having a lawyer a friend of or a father. That's a lawyer and account. We don't we don't come from the mostly Muslim come from broken homes. And I look at my career one Warren played football Toby's, forty four and obviously writer die with warring. I study. Forty four. Yeah. But you know, I told him he goes, how do you know about all this stuff? It's not right. And what I loved about him when I met him at least he said, my mom told me if I don't understand something asked, right? And he always did. But I played football college, not a big house. But till I was twenty two, but I studied my butt off. Because I knew I was going to make the NFL wants Christian Koya ran me over I knew I better study hard, but from twenty to forty four every day, probably more than most people work out in study film. All that. I was learning business. I was surrounding myself with all those and I still went bankrupt. Right. That's how different. People's modest this morning. I mean, it happens all the time. Imagine imagine a young athlete black or white guy that doesn't know business. You know that that the thing on on paper. It looks great. Then definitely great. You know, even sometimes if to get a lawyer. Tommy billionaires that he also. Goes to show. You can get anyone. Yeah. One last thing I noticed about athletes and myself when you come from nothing, which we both did and you make it we're loyal. I feel Tony Gwynn told me this too. It's like every guy that kind of helped us while we're young when you know, you want to help out right? You feel responsibility to not only your mom, and your siblings, and all these people, and like I mean, I became a millionaire nine months law school that's faster than most athletes from when they go pro most athletes in the world the top ones now. But still today mostly, you know, Russell Wilson didn't make a million dollars right out of college. It's a lot of money. If you I never have to work. So I was giving up on my house and a car we and this is the best thing I ever did. The worst thing I ever did was lose the house, and then I made enough back the buyer another. But do you feel that responsibility? So today like there are people that come up to you that you just knew from college or high school or that loyalty news, you'll feel. Responsibility for everybody. Is that an issue for you? Hell, no, right. All right. These suckers that come up to me. That hail moving me. Like, I say, my circle is tight friends like, my friend. My best friend's a female name. Holly fray, she she said, he the ones I'm going in these ones I'm going in with. I'm not trying to have no new friends like the I'm doing investments with no, you know, the ones back in the day some of the guys year. But not really I mean, you when you're young when they were hitting younger, you always pretty, you know, I didn't make a lot. So. Yes. And no, you know, yes. End loan money. I'd have given laws Monday, France. Most definitely a lot of money. Yeah. But now, I mean, the the people that know, me know, dano hang I don't mind getting I don't mind. My best line for people is especially athletes from someone. You get you always feel when they're giving. You that weird? Call is like always calling for money or they're gonna come over for money. I would say the first thing when you say is say, hey, man. We'll quit the voice I need some money. Can can I get a little from you? I. Exactly. Thing about is the asked me until I'm up, no money alone. No not. I mean, not a dime yet. So you know, right off the bat. So if if it's real and come through just like that for really we'll deals and no money I made money off of them. I do same thing getting business advisory program. Most of but yeah, I mean, I really feel for for young players. You know now because the vultures are these agents goon ages, they still and to me, the NFL sense almost condone, you know, and they don't they don't help them a lot. But it is what it is. And such as such the NFL last question is branding. I think exceptional job branding part of it is your honest and eliminate you Lou Nate you college career good in the bag. You just tell the truth. What have you done? What what would you give as you tired player? Like, you said things die off. They. But you've done a really great job. I mean help the Rams or successful in the L A's. But even before that your brand is very strong. What advice would you give maintain your brand throughout the years? Even after playing, I think the most important thing I go back to being a good that good person. I'm talking about always the saying don't be like this because life is like this. But you can be like this pretty much. You have to be the this be that same person with everyone all the time people meet me if you will. I mean, I'll take a picture. I don't care niches in the morning. You know, just be that guy that guy and people gravitate toward I didn't think about it until much later months later, and I can tell you quick story matter of fact, when all the stuff happened was two years ago three years ago with Fisher, and the Rams, you know, weren't what here for all those years, and I was always got pitching people's autographs and a buddy of mine says he's Eric he said, you know, he say the fans are so much behind. You said all those autograph you sign all those pictures, you took those fifteen twenty years, and the Rams went here it all paid off now. So you're gonna dividends from because the fans are behind you. I didn't think about I really didn't think that so, you know, for your brand my dad had a saying, you know, he said son is nothing like having a good name a good name all the money in the world. And for me. I try to have a good name. I try to stay out of trouble. It's not perfect. But you don't see me. Well, you definitely live by what I learned from Li which is behind your future self. Yeah. I think that's lesson. And you do your brand in LA. I'm blessed to be around it. And I'm so proud when every time a man's game. And even with the young players now, he'll this whole CJ thing for me is awesome. Because I get third person opinion right of like how many guys rely on you on that team? And they're looking up to you coming into the Super Bowl while you're on the sideline with them. And from girly the CJ these guys it really made me proud this guy. You know, you're getting your props for being a good guy. You know? I'm a message last week. Yeah. Two weeks ago in the first time, and I always liked what he played in. I didn't I didn't say much Oakland. But he was a guy. I liked what he runs he runs. He's downhill run runs between the tackle. And we got him. I like a good acquisition know, it'd be that quick. He's quick. I mean, so I. Belly? He done a great job. When you're talking about changing football teams makeup on offense in a hurry. I gotta say both him in time. It's done. It's done tremendously. And I'm sure about this. I mean, he's he's gotta be elated to be one point not playing football to now being in the Super Bowl something, I never. Third one. Yeah. I know I know playing the Super Bowl at all. And I mean, I play eleven years to forty four. Yeah. No. It's going to be incredible. And I just appreciate you meeting me. And you are kind person in a good person. I wanted everybody knew an ingrate businessman. Remember don't ever Natalie? Don't give your money just give your name. Exactly. Thanks. Awesome day Meltzer with entrepeneurship playbook. I hope you enjoy this week's episode of the playbook as much as me on a personal note. I just wanted to thank everyone for making playbook such success. Don't forget to continue it by sharing subscribing and listening to your favorite episodes. Dave Meltzer with the play.

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Cutting Down

PTI

18:34 min | 1 year ago

Cutting Down

"Cliff Barn Company is the family employee owned maker of cliff bars cliff kid and luna bars. And here's something. I love about them since they started almost thirty years ago. They've always put people and communities I now they've committed to help feed the fight with get this an initial donation of more than seven million cliff Luna and cliff kid bars to food banks first responders and healthcare workers fighting this pandemic boom community. It's a beautiful thing crazy old man in his attic episode fifty eight. We'LL WE'RE GONNA start with baseball specifically Blake SNELL. Who recently won the CY young with Tampa Bay? He went on social media to announce his opposition to the proposed fifty fifty split between the owners and the players and he said among other things and these are direct quotes from me to take a pay cut is not happening because the risk for me is way through the roof. I gotta get my money. I'm not playing unless I get mine. Okay unquote he later. Said he realized what he said might be taken and perceived as greedy. So we'll what do you think of Blake Snell at the Moment Tony? I Dunno Blake's now and I don't want to necessarily just judge somebody entirely by is worst moment. Let's hope this is his worst moment because he seems so offensively unplugged from what is going on in the world. And you know this notion of is risky will do if it's risky. If you mean you care about the risk you'll come out and say I'm not playing at all now for seven million for three and a half million. I'm not playing because there's risk and I would respect that but gonna respect anything you said again. It's just it's a -fensive -Ly Unaware and you wonder like wow. Can somebody be this unaware of how stupid he sounds now? There is the great small phrase tone deaf. This is the definition of tone deaf as eight hundred thousand people in more have died already as millions or out of work. And this guy's saying I gotta get mine so if you want to put a face on the players for a dartboard and say this is the worst of it. You now have blake SNELL's face. I was wondering what Tony Clark would say to defend him or spin. This because as I told you the other day when Tony Clark specifically said the owners were using the pandemic salary cap. I found that a slander. A statement in this particular. I mean all you have to do is talk about health and safety. You can't just say I'm willing to forego health and safety if you pay me everything and by the way mine. Kf The games. Why do you think you're GONNA get one hundred percent of the money? You're not in the owners aren't this was. This is clueless on every level. So stupid and clueless right and you wonder. Is He paying attention to anything? Else is the only on looking at instagram. Or is he paying on Instagram? They're worthy post. People are talking about something substantive and you wonder if any of that is going into his head Tony but you know what? I don't know that we're not going to hear Luke. People are GonNa take great measures now to be careful about what they say. But I don't know that the core of the sentiment won't be coming in part from other players and owners. Is this how they feel just? Is this just unedited? I'm going to say this that. It seems to me very possible that a lot of players feel like this but you cannot say this and no other player can endorse this. Specific message cannot know it. No we can agree on that and apparently one thing the players and owners can agree on at least at the moment. Tony is the designated hitter. Mlb network is reporting that the Universal D. H. Will be adopted for this season so no more pitchers batting in nationally games. That okay by you. We've had two sets of rules. I think for close to fifty years now. I grew up the baseball that I grew up with the baseball that I believe in everybody played the field and everybody batted. I liked that. I've always been a national league. Fan was a giants fan. I was a mets fan. I'm a nets fan so I like to see pictures. Hit or be taken out. I liked the strategy for managers to see what they do next to see how quickly they go to a bullpen. But but honestly Mike Honestly I think two sets of rules is worse than me not getting the one set of rules that I want so if they go to this. I don't like it but I'll be okay with it. How about you. You know strangely enough Tony. I grew up with both leagues. You know I went to both ballparks in Chicago and watch games as a kid teenager. And when they made the switch I guess I was about fourteen or fifteen years old. I kind of like having a two sets. I've always been okay with the National League staying that way in the American League Cabinet D. H. I like both of them but I do prefer the National League pitcher batting. Maybe because I was a pitcher as a kid in high school in that wanted to hit to Tony. I have trouble getting worked up over anything that is just sort of specific to a sport right now given that. I don't know where we're going to see this. I don't know if we're going to see this. We got to talking about something. That is much more important which is owners and players finally getting together somehow. Actually get a season if the world allows for it. So I've I've trouble getting worked up over this. I understand that once in play it could stay in play and if it does. I'm fine with it but I'd also be okay with pitchers kidding again. Yeah I think it's going to stay in play and there's a two reasons it's going to stay in play. One is that aging hitters really. Want this because it keeps them in the League at big money for a far longer time they don't have to field an all they can do hit and pictures for example who have pitts say the American League for five six years over the National League. They don't WanNa bat and I mean on a on a personal level. The team that I root for the nationals. It's good for them because how he can't play the field and he's a terrific hitter even though they've got two pitchers who are good hitters in Strasbourg and Sherzer. But Mike. I do think I'll get off this now. I do think that if it comes in even if you say let us yeah let yeah think it stays. Let's go to our friend Joe Buck Joe. Buck calls the lead football game every week on Fox and he believes that his network is working on. Piping in crowd sounds for games and even computer generated people in the stands so the place looks full he told Sirius. Xm quote. I think Fox needs to put crowd noise under us to make this a normal. Viewing experience at home will do you agree. Yes Antonio's fifth something you've been saying for FORTY YEARS OF FORTY YEARS. I've known you which used to aggravate me. Still aggravates me seventy percent of the time when you say it although I know one hundred percent of the time you're right it's all television show who we fooling here and now you're moving closer to that. The stadium is just a studio for people. Say Wow how quickly someone going to be able to react and press the button and brings the appropriate crowd noise with the appropriate action on the field. You kidding me. My son could be one of them. He'd be well paid because every kid in the world who planned video games all day is so quick on the trigger. They'd be able to do this. Yes Tony they were pumping crowd noise into Salt Lake City arena. The Delta Center was called in thirty years ago during the playoffs. This is not a shock not controversy. What's going to happen? The thing there is no in arena experience anymore. It is all a television show and one of the things that sports in this particular period of time has to do is try to create normalcy among people who are watching television normal sports. They have people in the stands normal. Sports has noise. We are now forced to go with something artificial to create something normal and I am for it. I mean look for years in sitcoms. They would have a laugh track because it involved you in it pandemic might. We're not gathering at bars to watch games where you don't need this kind of artificial noise. We they're sitting alone with one or two other people and and so i. I heartily endorse this. I as crazy as it sounds. I heartily endorse be better than what the alternative is going to be looking at empty seats of hearing a pin drop. I don't want that. That's not done anything for you. Name Twenty or thirty years ago the silent game I think it was on NBC. And you weren't involved in it the noise gets you involved at absolutely Tony. This is going to be sort of in your wheelhouse are coming to Washington. Dc Jor sound leading score Mac Macleod announce yesterday he has entered the NC double transfer portal. And we'll be leaving the HOYAS. Patrick Ewing was surprised by the decision has coach but wish McLaughlin McLaughlin v player to transfer away from Georgetown out of Georgetown since December. It's only what if anything does lungs decisions. Say to you about Patrick in his time as coach at Georgetown. Here's the critical sentence in what you said. He's the fifth player to transfer away. Some of those players would disciplinary problems. But they were still recruited by the Patrick Ewing Administration. And you've lost the two guards that were the stars for a while James Kinjo and Mac Mc long and this took you by surprise because he said publicly a week or ten days ago he thought McClellan was going to return and then lung said they never even spoke about it this. This is a serious thing because Matt mcclung Mack McLarty. I'm sorry. He said he didn't want to leave but quote. I'm looking for a place I can call home. I think. Patrick Ewing we will come under scrutiny for this because he's got nothing coming back and I know he's the greatest player ever. Georgetown and I know people really wish him well and success but this program seems to be eroding Tony. I don't know I don't want to assign anything to what a teenager says. Ever in particularly and he said you want WanNa look for a home for how long he says. I want to look for a home until next week. A released sense he's going back in the NBA draft pool. I I don't know what that means. I will say this having covered Georgetown basketball on a daily basis for some years back. When Patrick Ewing was playing in John Thompson was coaching. Remember how we always had those stores. We always had to go to big John and asking why so and so is leaving big. John was say every place. Everybody's not for every place and some people don't need to be here. Perhaps and the program goes on and there was there was always talk about. Wow the number of people lead Georgetown. Now I know the Patrick Ewing is not John Thompson. They were joined at the hip one point to produce what Georgetown is. Even today. All these years later but Tony I don't know yet. I WanNa see what Patrick Ewing brings in. Maybe MC lungs transform because this other point guards coming in and he's worried about his playing time. I I don't know going to the transfer portal. It seems like every third kit now in NC double a. to the transfer portal. So I'm not GonNa say this has any great reflection on Patrick Ewing Georgetown yet. I'm going to give this a wait and see okay so I'm going to say this that when your best players leave that is a red flag situation. Patrick has been there for three years. He's forty nine forty six. I don't think it'll get better this year. Maybe it will. This happened with Chris. Mullin at Saint John's the sapling with Clyde Drexler at at Houston. Patrick Ewing had he had coaching experience in the NBA. But none in college. I don't think either you were or I ever thought John Thompson the third would be fired and I think we believe that Patrick Ewing was a smart and good choice to come back and recreate Georgetown. All I'm suggesting now is that it's going to be a little bit more difficult than perhaps people thought after four difficult certainly i. I'm rooting for difficult. Tony absolutely your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on Homeowner's insurance because home is more than just a place. Home is where he built a giant pillow fort in your living room and when people ask why you have a pillow fort in your living room. You say it's for your dog. And when they ask what kind you say chocolate lab and we've a web of lies that's almost as intricate as the crown molding in Fort Pillow. The GEICO Insurance Agency could help protect the pillow. Soft fortress you call home call Geico and see how easy it is to switch and save on. Homeowner's insurance we go with the happy kids. Happy Thirty First Birthday Rob Gronkowski. It was shocking enough. When Tom Brady left the Patriots for Tampa Bay sorry Tampa Bay but the other shoe dropping was when Gronkowski ended his retirement to join Brady on. The buccaneers. Both are going to go to the hall of Fame Gronkowski Navy. The greatest tight end ever in nine seasons in New England. He scored ninety two touchdowns the most in patriots history. He was first team all pro four times before he turned thirty. Bronc left the Patriots after their Super Bowl. Victory over the rams there was speculation. He would pursue an acting career in action films. Like the rock that he turned up on Fox during Football Analysis. And in the wwe all of those avenue still available to him down the road when he retires again by joining. Brady on the bucks who were already the most watchable team in the NFL because of Brady there now more watchable the NFL obviously agrees because they have scheduled Tampa Bay for the maximum. Primetime appearances five Tony. I hope this works out as well as all the people gushing about it you come back from the kinds of injuries I remember. I watched recently re watched the clip of GRONK. When he announced sometime after retirement he started sobbing and he was talking about how his body her how he hurt spiritually in terms of dealing with the game of football and all the pain it causes and I thought that was real. I thought it was authentic as we can see a player in sort of that raw moment. I I don't know the guy goes out. There and catches ninety passes four thousand yards again. I hope he's physically able to do it but I'm not presuming it like everybody else seems to. I think that's fair. Happy Anniversary New Orleans. Pelicans on this day last year despite just six percent chance of doing so the Pelicans one the NBA draft lottery. And the right to take Zion Williamson. There were no frozen envelopes involved. Most people seem to believe that it was just plain luck New Orleans God on because it's not the way anyone in New York would have planned it exiling. Zay onto the second smallest market in the League. Zion injured himself in summer. League GONNA get in training camp and missed the first forty four games prompting worry that is great size and power would compromise his ability to stay on the court but when he started playing. Zion was a revelation in nineteen games. He averaged twenty three point six points six point eight rebounds in just thirty minutes a game. He shot fifty nine percent from the floor. Forty six percent from three. The PELICANS were eighteen and twenty seven without cy on ten and nine with them. He probably won't win rookie of the year because he didn't play enough but he is a full-fledged star already mike he is Tony and presuming we see some NBA playoffs. We'RE NOT GONNA see Zion. Not Right Nabet Tony. I think all of this meaning just away could help him physically. I mean he gets to at some point again. Maybe even soon you train and the way that a professional trains which is different from the way it kid in college goes about working out and the people he has worked with him and the guys he's practicing against. I mean you would presume I presume this Zion is going to be bigger and better. We get to see him again whenever the NBA was. I love the happy trails today. Mike happy trails. The my suggestion yesterday right here that Eric Dickerson might like the rams new uniforms. The Ram Basseterre has weighed in and it is in good. Started OUT SOMEWHAT. Positive he told. Am Five Seventy la quote. I'll say this. The colors are not bad the uniforms not bad unquote and then the Ram Basseterre went the other way in a hurry. Dickerson said quote. I don't like the stripe around the sleeve. It's not big enough. It almost looks like a lightning bolt like the uniforms. I don't like to stripe down the pants. I wish it was bigger and the horn man. It's horrible I just feel like they took away from the rams uniform and almost looks like the chargers logo. It looks like to bananas. This is what all this. Ain't nothing surfing the say nothing to do with football. This is a man sport and to me. It just looks off it. Don't look hard. It don't look football on quote and there's no word yet if the team is looking for a new Ram Bassett or by the way I I love this to all right. I'm old I'm old school and Eric. Dickerson might be about eighteen months younger than me or something like that but not much. He's older he's old school and I loved. I know Eric Dickerson a little bit Tony. I like him tremendously. And if you know what if the rams are GonNa be so stupid as to to part ways with Eric Dickerson? You know what Eric Dickerson's life is good. He's just fine. Maybe they should listen more to him. That is a great big block of quotes from Eric Dickerson. Great it is it. Is We have them quote?

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"Piece is the best I n last the podcast. Boy, oh boy, Sundays. I get jealous of the afternoon sports talk radio shows because you get sit around all day and kick around ideas and think about some of the bigger issues that get brought up that were reacting to oftentimes very early in the morning golick window here on first and last where the first thought of the day. And so you're a lot more reactive and you're allowed to be, which is nice. But there are some great discussions that take place as the day goes along, but sometimes I get a little jealous of and then the flip the script gets flipped on days like day were all the sudden we're handed something in the meat of the day yesterday, something that comes down literally after I get off air with dead and trae from six to eight every morning. And I'm like, oh, man. Now I've got the power. Look at me. I'm the captain now, and that's exactly what happened with all this whole fame stuff going down yesterday. So if anyone missed it yesterday during the morning era Dickerson leading the charge on behalf of a group of pro football hall of famers road a letter that he posted online. To Roger Goodell the NFL PA executive director damore Smith pro football hall of fame president, David Baker. Referencing that he was speaking on behalf of a group of high profile hall of famers. That said, it would be no longer attending the annual induction ceremony until whole famers received health insurance and an annual salary that included a share of league revenue. Man, I walking out of the building to go over to do sports center on Snapchat, and I hear that and I am frothing at the mouth like that is the kind of stuff that you sit around here and you are excited to talk about because one of we seen something like that. And so now we get the advantage of having been able to sit around and to listen to some other voices and to hear some now revised versions of what this letter represented, who it represented more ESPN radio's presented by progressive home insurance, get your quota, progressive dot com. Today it's first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio. And so coming up this morning now to react to this stacked guest list, Bill curry, who I have. I have known Bill Curry's. Young man used to call college football games of my father is as interwoven in the fabric of the history of football. Both collagen pro has been around some of the biggest names in the game as anyone and is going to be various thing to hear him on this just very slow, southern drawl. So be ready. These are going to be long answers. Anthony, Munoz, pro football hall of Famer. Maybe the greatest left tackle ever live at eight thirty and then the man himself, Eric Dickerson who pen the letter nine thirty eastern this morning on golick and wingo. So a lot of hall of famers in the lineup today to discuss this. Issue that. Became more and more complicated as the day went on. So it starts off with that bombshell getting drop yesterday. Eric Dickerson joined bobbly on outside the lines and kind of explained a lot of his piece in all this. Here's the him talking about the difference between what players received post career in the NFL as opposed to other sports. This is the hang up for them, but remember it started centered around hall of famers receiving these benefits now. Got us out. Won't get my good friend, deacon Jones, and he said to be every how much pension I say what I haven't taken. I'm like forty one. I said, I'll probably get like twelve hundred dollars a month. So you know what I get. I got two hundred funky dollar two hundred fifty dollars a month. So what am I gonna do with two hundred fifty dollars a month. I think the perception is that all NFL players, rich and we haven't made and that's just so far from the truth. And so this to me is the crux of what's gone on here is visting splits and fractures on a few levels. But the first split in fracture and it's one that Dickerson talks about another points in his letter and mentions is that the MO of the league is to try and divide the players current and former. Now that divide. Usually comes from one side of the other. We've seen a lot of these sort of jealousy, the anger, the bitterness from former players and understandably. So for guys that built the league in so many ways that go sight unseen now for a lot of current players, guys that look at the salaries that come out now and say, what the hell we did all the work, laying the groundwork for this making salaries that were much closer to normal. I use air quotes normal because the NFL's always been a pretty big money industry in the last twenty thirty forty years. We're talking obviously going back further than that, you get into more interesting territory, but the separation between players before free agency really in the time that my dad was in the league from the late eighties into the early nineties. The way money changed in the NFL created this divide automatically. So you've got that. But then if fractures, even more so that I think is something that already naturally existed. You've got a fracture even more because you had Eric. Acres and coming out and saying, all right, we've got this board of hall of famers in on this and then mmediately two of 'em, punt right immediately. Kurt Warner, Jerry Rice to the bigger names that you could have a societas with this come out and say, not exactly sure. Jerry Rice puts out a statement on Twitter. Well, I support any effort to improve health insurance benefits all current retired NFL players. I'm not part of a quote hall of famers board of directors as referencing the letter earlier today. We need to continue to have meaningful discussions about this issue at the league. The union in the hall of fame, especially as we near a new collective bargaining agreement. I plan to support the pro football hall of fame and look forward to attending the hundredth anniversary in twenty twenty. That's a big hangup in all this. That's the threat, right? The threat of forces we will not attend the hall of fame ceremony. Now, field Yates points this out. I think pretty accurately that this fracture alone these name saying, now we're out of this undermines a lot of what this effort was when you are working towards a message in doing so collaboratively or a goal and doing so collaboratively. If it's truly collaborative amongst group of people, then you better make sure that this group is all for one and one for all. And I don't know how a document or a letter is released that states that Kurt Warner and Jerry Rice. Arguably the greatest player in NFL history. Jerry Rice is a part of this movement, and yet he Sates publicly. He was not a part of this movement. So it feels as though the message in the intent is not something that I necessarily totally disagree with. Even though I do kind of wonder if maybe all former players deserve these benefits, not just the hall of fame level player. Years, but I think that the operation may have slipped a little bit to the point that I don't know that this carries much weight as it could've if things had been sort of buttoned up first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app fueled gates are ESPN NFL insider. And I think one of the points that gets made there is when he says, yes, all of the players probably deserve this, Eric Dickerson face that backlash immediately and had to come out and say, I want health care for every player. That's my main goal. All my offense of Lima new blocked from tight ends receivers. Anyone I played with, don't you think I want them to have healthcare. I want those guys to have it. Those guys played as hard as I did to get to the hall of fame. I want them to get it, but we have to start here. I, we have to get one before we get ten. We have to start with the hall of famers because we're trying to get some power. I, that's an interesting point that is undermined by the way you want about this because the thing in discussion in talks that I had with a lot of people yesterday, that kind of goes because a lot of people say, well. Why wouldn't the NFL do this willingly for its former players? Understanding what a great PR move. This would be understanding how good this would be for the brand of football. The say, we're going to take care of these guys that put their bodies on the line for the league. And I said, well, because everything's a bargaining chip, they talk about the way that in the last CVA one of the focuses that Eric Dickerson summarily dismissed was the legacy fund that was established six hundred twenty million dollar increase in benefits with team owners contributing out of their share of the revenue for the first time. This issue stabbed a fun for Pre1933 player, so a lot of the guys looking to be addressed and looking to be taken care of here. And so you've got that on this one side, you've got that being dismissed, but you've got that as a goal, right? And that's a bargaining chip, it's something that was talked about at the collective bargaining table. And so this could have been an advantage because the threat of protesting the hall of fame is one that. I think we saw this year when Tarallo opted not to go Centene noth- of a shock wave through the system that it got people's attention. I guarantee that's why air Dickerson and company were entertaining this to begin with. And so if you look at that and say, we have a group that has the power that could have spoken for the larger group of all players and potentially done it from vantage point, where will this isn't the current players that league speaking on this. This isn't the guys that are at the collective bargaining table for this. This is another group that's flexing its weight in a way that the owners would have to pay attention to because Eric Dickerson his right that group does have a lot of power. That group is an important part of the league, and it's fabricated history and it's a missed opportunity to not have this be more coordinated as is often the case with the players side of labor disputes. There are so many with so many different vantage points, so many different financial backgrounds and so many different needs than it's hard always corral these groups. Because if you would. Had something that was more pointed. I think this was an interesting discussion to be had of. Could this group have affected change from a different angle enough to make the owner sweat it and think about doing something that normally they would have never given up without some sort of compensation coming back their way. First and last podcast reacting to Eric Dickerson pending a letter to Roger Goodell damore Smith, David Baker of the pro football hall of fame, saying hall of famers will boycott future enshrinement ceremonies if they are not compensated with healthcare after their careers. With a yearly salary based on league revenue, Chris Edwards tweets in health and disability insurance. Absolutely salary. Why is the NFL on the hook for poor financial planning of its past president? Future players? Yuli argument. I see for pass players who went bankrupt due to health and disability issues. I think that's what most of the centers around is the idea that players before put in the same sort of work when it comes to playing building and being a part of the NFL that so successful now but weren't compensated financially as players are in this day and age by any percentage by any metric, and the health and safety ramifications were just as much if not more than when health and safety wasn't as much of a priority wasn't studied as well. And so these guys coming to look and collect on that doing it in a way that I think undermines their cause a bit person. Last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Let's go to Ron in Los Angeles quickly, Ron, and you're on first and last, what's going on. So I'm listen. I'm all pro player of all four. Everything is thing for my things. The problem is what you're saying is you kinda made a generalized versus Eric Dickerson. And as top of the segment used that Kurt Warner Andrey rice jokes drilling the point about what Jerry Rice, that making it Ajay right for Eric Dickerson not a Kurt Warner versus a current one nj. Right versus Eric Dickerson. I mean, it was Kurt Warner, Jerry Rice in number of other former players. Like I'm pretty sure my dad, my goal senior who you're gonna, hear ongoing wingo coming up, had a pretty strong reaction to this is well, which is the same across the board for a lot of these guys so it everyone knows Jerry Rice versus Eric Dickerson. And I said, the names Jerry Rice and Kurt Warner being, I won't say a line against this, but at the same time, speaking out, not the same message as Eric Dickerson sorta. Undermines the cause right away in a lot of this. So no, everyone knows it's not a Jerry Rice versus Eric Dickerson thing, but it's a lot of people apparently looking at Eric Dickerson like we weren't consulted in the way that your purporting with this some sort of hall of famers board. That seemed to be what both Kurt Warner and Jerry Rice were disputing was that they were a part of some hall of famers board or that they weren't somehow on board for health insurance and all this for all players. Not just a hall of famers now right now time for straight. Talk brought to you by straight talk wireless, best phones, best networks, no contracts. We'll get back to that. But we also had an interesting developed development taking place yesterday in O'Connor. ESPN senior writer got a book, got a book chronicling, the New England Patriots of all things. And we are a lot about New England this off season, a lot of things going on behind closed doors there, and a lot of them Seth wicker sham wrote that great PC year ago about a lot of the things going on behind closed doors and Ian O'Connor, sort of expanded upon. One of the thing that became. Came the main subject, the main storyline through the offseason, which was the friction between Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, which seemed to be Oduh, but we get a little further explanations. He joined Scott van pelt last night on sports center. I think the first thing, Scott, it's remarkable took seventeen eighteen years for any fracture to come into public view, right? It's a testament to them really that it didn't happen for so long. But once Bella drafted Garoppolo in two thousand fourteen and said that night, he cited Tom's age contract status and said, I'd rather be early than late at this position. It made it inevitable and it happened last year, our very own Seth wicker Shanta a masterful job, aided portraying the escalating tension between those two. It came down to garoppolos presence and also seventeen eighteen years of being coached in an unforgiving way by Bella chick war Brady down. And then of course, the way Bella check marginalized. Alex Guerrero, his business partner in life coach, and it all sort of came together to represented last draw. I was told by a number of sources that as. As late March Brady wasn't sure. He was going play again for Bella chick first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. And that was the source of a lot of controversy surrounding this patriots offseason and always go back to. It makes an overwhelming amount of sense, right? Like if you look at any great company, any great business, any great tandem, how whatever you wanna look anything that successful eventually. Feeds enough of the human ego because we all want to feel validated. We all want credit for what we believe we're doing. That's one of those interesting things about Golden State to me is Golden State. We hear about all this. Well, you know, you have no idea what's going on behind closed doors here. We don't know what it looks like, but we're sold on the outside this selfless brand of basketball, a guy like Kevin Durant coming over and agreeing to play for less and do all these things in order for the team to have success, and we wonder, all right, what takes down Golden State. And I posted this yesterday when I was doing sportscenter on Snapchat, which is could just personal greed. Could those very human emotions just play into this after awhile? I don't feel like I'm getting enough credit for the thing that we're doing well. And that was to me always something that made just a human level of sense with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, which is at some point, both of these guys are considered maybe the greatest to do their specific job in the NFL. And yet we always have this. Conversation is Brady of product of Bella check system. Bella chat couldn't do it in Cleveland without Tom Brady before round and round. We go not understanding that these things are kind of symbiotic at the end of the day. Now, one thing that maybe a vote for the favor of the relationship going all the way back to the beginning was Bella checks, preference to Tom Brady early on in their careers together. Bella chick never really believed all that much in Bledsoe and I know from talking to people around him back then now they didn't want him to get hurt. Certainly it wasn't as if the coaching staff and people in the front office where rooting for anything like that, but they were trying to get Tom Brady under center without offending and creating a real problem with the owner who just gave one hundred million dollars to Drew Bledsoe as the franchise player new stadium in the making. And that was the franchise player in the face of the New England Patriots. But they really liked Brady when he got a chance to play and Bill felt that there was something there that Brady had that it factor. He was not. Going to go away from that when Bledsoe got healthy according to the article on ESPN dot com Brady started worrying for his job almost immediately after belch excited his age and contract status, and the coaches own desire to be early rather than late to that position when they drafted Garoppolo in two thousand fourteen even more interesting. How about this quote from Tom Brady's sister Brady Belgium had been reduced to a staredown that didn't surprise those in the quarterbacks camp. According to the book, felt like Bella check would push him out to berry Brady sisters, said, quote, Bella check will definitely do to him someday what the colts did debate manning. So if we're to believe that it makes it even more impressive to the patriots are gonna lock down when we get to the season every year and make this work first and last the podcast first and last podcast I've made this argument before this analogy, but as we discuss some of the things coming out with the patriots, Ian O'Connor's got a book documenting a lot of the off-season friction that we heard about between Brady and Bella check. We've seen very publicly in some instances, the Steelers and a lot of their locker room drama spilling over out into the street. They're like bad relationships where you see couples argue at certain times in public, or you hear some arguments coming out. Some dirty look shot their way, but then they come together and make it look like the perfect family picture when you get to the season or at least the patriots, the patriots of the perfect family portrait. I feel like the Steelers couple of having great sex, like, that's the thing that's keeping it all together. Whether it's first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. We're just being honest when you look at it. So we talked about the patriot, Tom Brady Bill Belichick, both wanting respect, both wanting credit, both feeling the especially Tom Brady side. It seems to be according to what we've heard from Ian O'Connor in this book and a number of other reports, Seth wicker, Sham's peace going back to last year, which is Brady felt like he was being pushed out in a way that he didn't believe he deserved based on what he's done for this organization. Then we got everything that's happening with the Steelers. So Antonio Brown was a no show on Monday Steelers. Can this coming off of a weekend where he tweeted responding to a former Steeler staffer who insinuated the Ben Rothlisberger their quarterback made Antonio Brown and he said trade me and let's see. And so a lot of people connecting that with sideline outbursts that we saw manteaux Neo, burnt all these things snowballing that are understandable looking at the outside and going well combine this with everything we've seen with on Belen all cannot be well in Steelers company and Steelers camp. I should say. Well, Mike Tomlin as he often does come out here to put out fires. Mike Tomlin has a very outspoken team one where we've seen things whether it was near the Facebook live stuff from year ago on Twitter spilling out from the locker room. This year's exchange in public back and forth between the Steelers offense of line and some comments levian beyond bell. Mike Tomlin is never going to leak any of this stuff. Every time I see a coach or a player slip up in front of the media and people talk about the difficulties dealing with it. I said, no, because Mike Tomlin's out here, making it easy for you guys, Mike Tomlin yesterday, talking about what he will and will not discuss when it comes to Antonio Brown. Not going to openly talk about lot of things social media. You could be chasing that all. I will say. This is important that we understand position likeness shine on us, and it was found ability that comes with it. It's been a couple of his nail. You asked me about in Tonio regarding social media, like things out address that address that very directed with them, but I'll leave this. We he and I, I'm not gonna utilize this form form for such things I just don't believe is appropriate. I think that this warm is very professional. One. We got a lot of football things to talk about. You know, performance personnel opportunities, challenges that game football presents always wanna take that road when I'm standing in front of this podium representing this league that's just to to approaching first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Honestly, it is an absolute showcase of. How to handle press conferences. And I know that's not the interesting sports angle, but I come away impressed every single time. I hear my Tom because he says nothing and makes it sound interesting in the process because he's Mike Tomlin. Nothing but respect there. Now, as far as the real of the situation, there are some things that need to be addressed. But at the end of the day, I look at this situation and we're gonna hear from Ryan Clark's, former Steeler safety, a guy was captain their leader around at understands that building as well as anybody. But I look at this and say, the Steelers have made this work, this sort of volatility in a way that sort of reminds me and that to the same extent. But as far as the big personalities allowed to flourish, if what Seattle did right for a long time, those Seattle Seahawks teams and especially those defenses that led the charge were very emotional volatile groups at certain times, and we've seen a ton of personality allowed to flourish from the Steeler team, and it's been led by Mike Tomlin who has managed to steady the ship. And I think allow for his players to be a little more outspoken to be a little more brash to be a little more vocal in a lot of these things. And they've got rings to show for it. Mike Tomlin's got hardware in the case to show for it, albeit not as recently as they put again, I point back to just because you can't beat the patriots, doesn't mean it should be an indictment on your process like the fact that you've run into this all time force of nature and Brady and check that people's can't seem to get over the hunt. The hump of doesn't mean we should look at this and say, well, the Steelers should have been doing better like, yeah, we acknowledge there's a ton of offense of town. Maybe more often, talented anyone in the league head, but the patriots are different in so many ways that using them as the argument. That's the argument of saying that just because you're in the SEC west and you can't manage to win that conference or that division when Alabama's been in it for the last decade. Nick Sabin, that to me is a, it's a miss. It's an absolute miss to try and assign blame to that in that way. Now the same time, it doesn't mean that things can't get fixed. Ryan Clark are ESPN NFL analyst. And former Pittsburgh Steeler said this type of behavior which ultimately undermines what they're trying to do as a team. You don't know what is the surrounding factors, but here's what you do. You know there was a blow up on the silent. You know there was a blow up on Twitter and now he's not there for whatever reason it is. This is a guy that people looked to for leadership on his team. This is the guy who is the best football player on this team and who's lead many people will follow whether right or wrong, whether he should be a leader or not. And you can't have this type of behavior from your marquee players from the people you have given money and incense given the the power to control the narratives outside of the locker room, but also the behavior insight first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio. You can touch this Michelle, Pennzoil performance line. We're brought to you by Pennzoil synthetics, taking synthetic motor oil performance to a whole new level, make the switch to Pennzoil synthetics today. And I said, it can look like that. You're right, you do. Leadership, although it was interesting. I I was in camp with the Pittsburgh Steelers in two thousand thirteen. My rookie season with them off season. I could not tell you in that time period, what an Tonio Brown's voice sounded like. I didn't find out until after I left Pittsburgh like that's just not a voice that you heard as often in that locker room. And there are different ways to lead as he Ryan pointed out as the team's best player. You often lead by conduct. I know plenty of guys that lead much more in conduct in the way they carried themselves, and that is something you cannot like. Like Ryan said, you cannot question with Antonio Brown, the work he puts in the standard that he sets there. But being vocal leader may just not be his bag in all this, and you can fix a lot of those problems. But like we said, the relationship may have ups and downs. You may get in an argument every once in a while may disagree. May have to take a day apart from each other like this, but the end of the day you come back for the great sex NFL record five consecutive hundred catch seasons involving Ben Rothlisberger, Antonio Brown through two games. Antonio Brown currently leads the NFL with thirty three targets including eight catches for hundred sixty yards and a touchdown. That that part's not broken. There are a lot of parts about the Steelers that you look at right now and say, all right, maybe we need to fix this certainly defensively. It seems like there's woes that they've got to address really haven't been addressed for a while around there as we make this about the offense and missing levian bell, Antonio Brown acting up a lot. Like what we always say, the patriots locked down everything. When it gets to the season, the Steelers make this work on offense. Like I, we have yet to see over any substantial amount of time enough of a drop off with what this offense of unit is capable of, or the very least what it's intent is and five straight hundred seasons for Antonio Brown's and leading the NFL and targets indicates to me some level of intent with this guy in this spot. That we can worry about the conduct becoming a problem long term maybe. But they've shown me enough of an ability to deal with this now. Then I'm probably gonna pump the brakes on most of that and just wait for AB to show up today. I mean, that's the other thing that gets lost and drew houses agent. Came out and put a lot of these fires out of the tweet. Yesterday, quote, the tweet yesterday was not in reference to anything other than Antonio sp- responding to a person. He knows that former Steelers PR staffer. It was not directed toward a trade or wanting to be traded. It was a personal response to a former Steelers. Employees insulted him any idea. He was asking for a trade is not accurate. And Secondly, yesterday he had personal matter. I talked to him about it. He has an issue unrelated to this tweet or his relationship with the team. And third, anything you see between AB and the coach is AB is an incredible drive to win. He just wants to win first and last the podcast all rise for the honorable Aaron. Judge Yankees fans can breathe. A sigh of relief. Last night is not only do they get a win over the Boston Red Sox down the stretch of the season, which we've talked about ad nauseam the AL east isn't over and done conversation, but the location of the wildcard and where that game is going to take place as the Yankees and the as jockey for position there. Becomes a more interesting dilemma that now got a little bit of a vote of confidence in favor of the Yankees yesterday and part of that had to do had to do with Aaron judge coming back the other day. But I, I gotta address something. We'll hear from Aaron judge in a second. We will hear from his manager Aaron Boone, but I was handed to urgent horrifying notes this last night and things that I think are worth addressing because we come to certain realizations late in life, right? Everyone realizes certain things. I didn't try salad or yogurt until I was twenty one years old and I try both of them for the first time on an airplane. We can't control when the right time finds us, but these are two shocking revelations. The I, I just saw someone tweeted at me in the one eight hundred flowers dot com. Twitter feed angle of junior Fifty-seven, Seth Rogan tweeted, hot tip. That's twenty five years late, but I didn't have Twitter back then in duck hunt, unintended. Oh, the second player controller controlled the duck. He said me and my sister found this out because I said on the controller by accident and the duck kept flying to the top right corner. I want you to let that drip into your day. It's Wednesday, it's the middle of the week. I think we all need to be reminded that we're alive and that is a terrifying note that rattles the core of what most of us knew thought you were just going against a computer controlled duck nee, my friend that player to controller, but the other thing and this, this is at the top of the list for me Kylie Jenner twenty one year old. Almost billionaire that we've talked about in a number of instances before tweeted this last night. This is a true money. Can't buy you. This kind of happiness moment. She said last night I had cereal with milk for the first time and it was life changing. Now, a lot of people get mad to how do you go twenty one years without having milk and cereal. She said she'd been eating dry, and I said, you know what? We'll forget that I want to give her credit into areas I want because I lamented the NFL on this the other day when the NFL came out and double down on the clay Matthews. Hit the penalty that shouldn't have been against Kirk cousins in the Vikings and Packers game from this weekend. I said the NFL mystic golden opportunity to reinforce the kind of behavior that they want it because that clay Matthews hit looked exactly like what they want modern tackling the look like, and they miss an opportunity to go out there and Panama on the head and say, good job. This is what we want. We want more of this. You can help your cause like that. So I want to reinforce positive behavior because Kylie Jenner did two things that I think were noble in this. The first was that she chose a great serious. She went cinnamon toast crunch which for my money, the second best serial of all time. What's number one, Mike waffle crisp come on guys. Next question. But the second thing in the most important thing and I took this for granted because I thought you guys were all playing for the same team with me. And then I found out the other day that wasn't the case. She wants cereal first and then milk because she's not an idiot. Milkin before cereal should be ashamed of yourselves. So in those two camps, Kylie Jenner got a big one. And I mean, this is the first day of the rest of her life. Now her life is forever changed by this, and I just happy that we all got to live through this moment. We had Twitter, like Seth Rogan's. We didn't have Twitter when she was growing up. We didn't have Twitter early on. Now we get to experience this together to real local. God did moments first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Another look what he did moment. Last night, Aaron judge makes his triumphant return. Aaron judge talked about what it felt like just to be back out on the field after what ended up being way longer of a hiatus than any of us plan for for that wrist injury. Philip ever lift. Everything felt good for like my bets were good and seeing the ball will. All you can really, you don't come back after missing that many weeks. So I'm excited with the start. You know, we got the win to keep that role. ESPN radio's presented by progressive insurance and air judge says all that and one over one in his first start over four. Excuse me. As I start since July. Bad second finish to fly outs to right field. The double play and a check swing strikeout. But the is get a three, two win, Neil Walker hit a three one home Homer in the eighth. So all's well that ends well in a lot of this. And I think getting this is a lot like when Tiger Woods I came back getting out healthy was the most important part of all this coming back and just getting back into the rhythm of being at the park. Now, certainly for Aaron, judge the performance parts, get a manner. He also talked about that worrying about the hiatus was going to do when it came to that. It's like riding the bike. It's getting paid to do. He'll be one game. So. And it's not just had to see a couple of bats, and then I knew after my first day doing similar that bats that I was I was going to go, and that's the most reassuring part is the confidence because through all of this, the Yankees bats have been cold for the better part of last month plus. And last night certainly didn't look much different. A pretty solid pitcher's duel when it all was said and done. Nathan of all the getting the start for the Red Sox and dealing through the first portion of most of that game. I think the most reassuring part is just his presence back in that lineup, because as the bats have gone cold and Stanton's been a part of that to the reigning, Ellen VP certainly hasn't looked the part as Aaron judge has been on the shelf, but it's just that presence because the thing I remember most about Aaron judge numbers side in the early portion of the season is that he seemed to be the Yankees clutch hitter in a way that they didn't have beside him. He seemed to be the guy that when the Yankees needed a big play down the stretch. Now as they prepare for this wildcard and we talked over and over again, early in the season was, could we potentially have two hundred win teams facing off in the wildcard round? And now it's centered a little more around the Oakland a.'s who emerged from that picture later than expected. It's you're going to need a clutch performer when it's doer die. One game setting. And so for that much getting judged back in this way, I think is monumental for the Yankees when it comes to that side now you still worry about again the hangover this much time off because we were sold a Bill goods, three weeks at the beginning of this three weeks, he was supposed to be not swinging bat with this rinse Rhys injury, and so coming back because this is already gone arrived from the original plan. You wonder what is actually going on internally here? Are they worried about Aaron, judge coming back? Are these apprised by anything Aaron, Boone, the Yankees manager when asked if he was. Surprised by judge being as ready as he was tonight? No, I don't think I should say surprise. I mean, you never know how it's going to be, but. Just I know getting to know air and over the years or over this past year, he's a special person. And so I'm not surprised. You know, he comes in with an age with a focus and end just an ability to lock in a hurry. And I thought I thought he was in a good place all night long just with his presence with who he is and in in at bats, he was able to have first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. The Yankees, get a slugger back, and I knew this is going to happen cereals area that people are so uniquely passionate about tweets, coming into the one eight hundred flowers dot com. Twitter feed Kevin be says, you pour the milk and I when you don't wanna wake anybody in the house f y, I remember that if you have kids. Man is I, I will defer to parents on this. Our kids really adept enough adhering. And maybe this is depending on where your bedrooms are located, that little bit of clank in the bowl of cereal because that seems like you're making an awful lot of concessions, but I get it. Sleep is necessary. And then Brennan Birger tweets in Oreo O's are unquestionably the greatest serial of all time. Full stop hashtag book. It. That's a hell of an admission I will. I will give Oreo O's a place in the conversation because good Lord, any amount of that much sugar and chocolate and cereal always has a place in my breakfast bowl. I'm sure that won't be the end of us hearing about. It really is, especially, we're morning show. We're very early morning show no doubt why this make sense to you guys first and last the podcast first, and last the podcast hottest stories of the NFL season so far gets an interesting little plot twist here. Now we knew this was coming. We knew this part of the story was inevitable, but it's approaching a little faster. And we got an interesting answer from inside the belly of the beast that I think you guys are gonna enjoy or at the very least that I think people are going to find interesting because we didn't expect any of this to come. We did not expect what's been coming from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or from Ryan Fitzpatrick. Who I don't know if we can save fits magic now without having to pay royalties to Minka Fitzpatrick. It's all become very confusing, but I gotta say, this is what happens around here. This is always the tension because obviously come in got a lot of great sports to talk about today. Eric dickers- is coming up nine thirty this morning on Golic and wingo Eric Dickerson who Penn day letter to Roger Goodell into NFL PA had executive director damore Smith and to Chris David Baker, the head of the hall of fame pen to let it all these guys saying me in this group of hall of famers are boycotting future hall of fame enshrinement unless you start paying us and giving us lifetime health insurance. It's a big deal coming off yesterday, you've got that. You've got enough O'Connor writing a book on Tom Brady, Antonio Brown. Didn't show up for practice the other day. Got all this. And the thing that I mentioned as a throwaway in the middle of one of our last segments in the last hour about Kylie Jenner, trying cereal with milk for. The first time and merely throwing out into the universe that waffle Christmas, the best serial and people that put milk in before the cereal should be looked at and guarded away from polite society. If you hear someone or see someone doing that calling report at your local authorities, that is what you guys flood. My mentions with like we could have this number one serial conversation over and over again. But instead I wanna talk about innovation very quickly. It's someone made the argument that you put milk in before the Syria when you don't wanna wake up your kids. Terry Smith tweeden says, I have three kids. Chewing is definitely the loudest part of the cereal experience. Don't listen to the guy who goes milk. I in the bowl only a serial killer possibly do that. We are at first and last need to come up with the silent bowl, though we think about the parents. We think about the early risers you don't wanna wake your kids. You don't wanna wake your dog who has a lot better hearing than your kid. We need the silent bowl. We need the silent poor bowl to help people out. So there's no more excuses. No more reason for these milk. I people ESPN radio's presented by progressive insurance commercial insurance through progressive protect your business and your dream choose from over thirty coverage options at progressive commercial dot com first, and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio. And we mentioned. So during the course of the young NFL season, as we see a bit of a changing of the tide, right in a number of instances. We'll see Allie sent the Email note last night that the patriots no longer favorites to win. The Super Bowl now have been replaced as the Super Bowl favorites by than the Los Angeles Rams Rams going off at ninety two odds, the patriots six to one the Jaguars who just beat the patriots, this last weekend at eight to one right behind them. So you can see the shift starting to happen. And in general, are power rankings. Yesterday had the Rams number one, the Jags number two and the chief's number three. Like if you explain how, sorry, spoiler alert my bed. Coming in hot off the press Tuesday, power rankings, didn't even think we power rankings today to like we have a lot going on and everyone wants to talk about serial, but. So you look at all that and you say this is sort of it feels different, right? It feels different to have these teams be validated this early on the list of two teams feel strange. You got the Broncos in there. You've got the Bengals in there. You've got the dolphins where you're AFC east leaders right now early in the season, like all this feels strange, doesn't feel strange and shouldn't. At this point is Ryan Fitzpatrick blowing us up early in the season and having a monster year, especially in a contract here. But what becomes interesting is the decisions that the bucks have had to make. And one that we've heard weighed in on is what they should do. James Winston had three game suspension, James Winston, by the way, who will now be involved in a civil suit. The driver from the incident that landed James Winston on these suspension list for three games is suing James Winston for that instant, no, no new information coming to light, but merely the lawsuit stemming from that incident. Now being brought up that just happened on Tuesday. But the decision the bucks to make when you bring James Winston back, do you put him back on the field? And I don't think you do right, like you have a decision to make about James Winston. But if you're cutter, you also have a job to protect and you have a team that right now is getting something it didn't expect which is success. And so-. Balancing that long-term like Jameis Winston gets put back on the field. You know, that's the front office forcing that decision because I can't imagine dirt cutters gonna wanna make that decision even though he was kept around in large part because of that relationship with James Winston. But we also got a little bit of word from inside that locker room from Sean Jackson, the buccaneers star wide receiver who has benefited greatly from Ryan Fitzpatrick being under center, joined Kevin Gandhi on sportscenter at six pm. Last night threw his hat in the ring. He's playing fire right now. The team is ready of items and just playing lights out football. You have to kind of honor. It should get off saying, no, you can't take the. House fire right now, it's like NBA, Jim. We used to play via January, John, whoever it got that high. Shoot, man. So you know, it's not mine to sit in, but I'm sure Durkan. 'cause mugging in Gaza Mexican called short of, you know, the fires fires out. He's on fire, and that's kind of where I'd side with all this because I think the decision becomes easy in that case. Right? You ride this hot hand. Like if you're going to actually have a good fit season all the way through, you've got greater weapons than he ever had any of those last few stops. That was the frustrating part about last year with James Winston and his office as you looked around it and it stacked like all the skill positions aside, I think you've got a really underrated group protecting him blocking for James. Winston frontally your sound in a lotta ways here. And so if you can ride this for as long as you can, you're getting a good season when you were picked last in what was one of the most competitive? Not be most competitive division in football in the last few years, and you can make noise and that party you leave that guy in because here's the the truth when it comes to guys. Like Ryan Fitzpatrick and guys like James Winston that our top overall picks is if you're the top overall pick, it takes a lot for you to get the hook like Jameis. Winston has gotten chance after chance because he's a top overall pick and forgetting the ability which is there. He's got the clout, which is almost more important in the NFL and a lot of ways buys you chance after chance. So when you're that guy, it takes a lot to get the hook with Fitzpatrick when this goes, you ride that hot hand as long as you want. Because you know when you get James Winston back, all it's gonna take as one bad game, all it takes knowing Ryan Fitzpatrick's history, knowing the MO around him, which is we've seen the good, but we know the bad comes were all expecting the shoe to drop when it does that comes with the swiftness because that's how it worked. When you're the backup, your everyone's favourite player when you're on the bench. But if you get out there and you blow it. We're all clamoring for that other guy like you see Nick foles in Philadelphia right now, that guy was the Super Bowl MVP and everyone's already looking down at their watches like, all right. Like how soon can we get Carson Wentz back in this. That's just the way a works. And so to me, that makes it a lot easier for you on the side of the people making the decisions for the bucks because the minute he slips up the minute, this stop, then you just get to put your starter back in and find out about the decision. And if you don't, if that hot hand rides all the way through, then you get a season you weren't expecting and then maybe it makes it easier for you to move on from guy. Jameis Winston who already you had some questions about, are we going to keep him on for the price tag that we know is coming now, Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay times join Spain and Fitz last night completely disagree with me for all that Ryan Fitzpatrick is doing right now, and he's been terrific. I mean, he'd be an MVP candidate right after two weeks, but is this really the direction you're gonna go? They have so much invested in James Winston in terms of the number one overall, pick almost. Four years of developing him that even with the suspension, he's gotta be their future in they've committed, you know, almost twenty million dollars to them. You know, as that fifth year option, I just think that eventually sometime after the bye week you're gonna see James Winston be the quarterback of the FOX again, and that's the decision that hangs in the balance. Thank you for listening to the first and last podcast. You can listen subscribe to all ESPN podcast. In the listen tab of the ESPN app. First and last.

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What's Going On In Pittsburgh?

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22:21 min | 2 years ago

What's Going On In Pittsburgh?

"Yeah. Part of the rupture, but I'm Mike wilbon, Tony. We've been pronouncing, Christie, Teague is name wrong the entire time. It's Tigers only been getting mine wrong to actually Tony. Okay. No, it is not. So what is the biggest pronunciation change in sports ever Dorsey scores at the door? So that what he's been tied all these? Yeah. So I thought it was Christie criss. So I got that wrong, but her hobby big. John? Yeah, that's big PTI songwriter out there as far as I'm concerned, whether the PTI boys and girls in today's episode, the bears to see off today, Tom Brady tempers expectations for Josh Gordon and Eric Dickerson proposes a boycott of the hall of fame, but we begin today with the mysterious actions of Antonio Brown, the high priced wide receiver. The Pittsburgh Steelers did not show up for work yesterday. He also yelled at the offense coordinator on Sunday. And yesterday tweeted, quote, trade me unquote to someone who tweeted Brown wouldn't be all that without Ben Rothlisberger. And I'm not even going to mention that levian bell was last seen by TMZ on a jet ski in Miami will on what is going on in Pittsburgh. Little question is what's not going on in Pittsburgh, and by the way super agent drew Rosenhaus says that Brown. It was a personal reason the he missed the day and had nothing to do with the team, but has everything to do with the team because he wasn't there always ages. Now nobody wants to take. Players ages. They don't want to take accountability for what they say. If you if you skip something that be bold enough or band enough to come out and to say, here's the reason I wasn't there. Don't give me the brush off and talk around it and skate around it, but the Steelers and the bigger issue Tony is sort of, wow, this is not a franchise. You hold outs, everybody has those, but we don't really discuss the Pittsburgh Steelers, historically having these kinds of issues with management or coaching staff either or every year you look for a team that you think is going to take the big plunge. The New York Giants did last year and every year we look at the patriots and we said, was this the is this here they fall little bit. We'll look at the Steelers right now. They have very, very, very big stars in. It may be that their time has passed Ben Rothlisberger and you off season every year, threatens to retire Levy on bell is not there and Tonio Brown, who we thought was happy with this young time hasn't come. This is all time to win a Super Bowl. Oh yeah. In terms of their physical athletic prime. What they appear to be dysfunctional at out that have. Okay. And so in Tokyo. And I saw what Rosenhaus said he said, I talked to team. He didn't say, I got permission for this. Many said, all Tony wants to do is win, but doing house says this about everybody. You need to look at a team like the Steelers, and you need to ask yourself, are they? Are they now sort of not too big to fail, but so big that they will fail. It was a hand guided this ship through a lot of time decades and stuff and championships. It was Dan Rooney is no longer with us that this can't be a coincidence cannon. No, no. The bears beat the Seahawks in Chicago last night, Tony, Khalil Mack. Let another assault of a Super Bowl quarterback this time, Russell Wilson whom they sacked six times and forced into just the third pick six of his career. The bears offense they are. We thought they are did just enough to not get in the way, meanwhile, Seattle own to for the first time with Wilson's quarterback. And just a second time with Pete Carroll is head coach, Tony, did the game convince you that the bears on the rise or perhaps the Seahawks are just on the slide. So a moment ago I wondered out loud of Pittsburgh was going to take the big plunge. Seattle is down. We all think that down the boat it's over. It's over their defense, which is one great is scattered to the winds. They never had a great offense. Marshawn Lynch is no longer there. They don't have any offense at the moment Wilson. And he kids stand over the last x. amount of years when they played our zone. It was for the division title now for last place. And I'm going to go the other way too on the bears. I'm going to tell you that the bears right now looked to me like Seattle looked when they began to be very good, and I would suggest you Khalil Mack could do for them what Reggie White did for greenback. I hope you're right. I worry frit as I really do. Yeah. Frit wants business. Oh Tony offense. This looks like every other bears team to me every other bears team that has great defense invoice will you can go back before Bill, George, and go back before Butkus and Doug Buffoni Doug actors and all those guys up through singleness seem as Bill, but they don't. Offense used to walk out the field because then tells the story and he was say, hey, just stay out of the way. Just let us take care of the scoring because they thought they could score as much as the offense. And sometimes they do like last night, the big scores provided by whom picks I worry about the bears inability to play off. It's modern Leno to this. Let me go to this for a second, didn't they make the Super Bowl? Rex Grossman who wouldn't say a great quarterback. If Mitch Trubisky can get a hope he can sixteen eighteen point. He's not accurate. I mean, there are people wide open and he he's left and right, and I just worry say in answer to your first question, I believe these teams are going in different directions of both. This both ping this Seahawks. We can agree it's over. It's it's actually over for them. The New England Patriots made news yesterday by trading for the problematic wide receiver. Josh Gordon who ran out of chances in Cleveland. Now the patriots explosive talented wide receiver which Gordon was when he got on the field. Everyone wonders if Gordon will be like Randy moss was in New England, but New England also acquired Chatto Cinco who didn't do squat. There will on who will Gordon be closer to moss or Cinco Tony. Neither one of those guys comes to mind for me really know talking about an illness addiction that caused him to miss two full season plus other suspensions. And I know the pieces out their one piece compares to Chris Carter who's talked famously introspectively about his own problems early on his life the one year Philly. Before he got traded to Minnesota and became a hall of Famer and turned his life around. But Chris Carter didn't miss seasons. I know the drug policy may have been different than substance abuse policy may have been different, but I look at this say my first concern is, can he actually functioned with the patriots a zero tolerance program after having all this tolerance all his life. So there are two in my. Life. There are two uniforms that I believe if you put these uniforms on, you got magically better to uniforms the Yankees. Uniform was one and UCLA. Basketball was. Having a great they put on the unit. Great, the patriots. I'm not sure about that. This would be terrific story of he is a great player because what it does, it changes the ark of the season for the patriots 'cause you can't double cover gronkowski. If you've got a great wide receiver, it gives Brady both sides of the field to work with which he doesn't have at the moment. But like you, I share the grave doubt that guy with this track record should out on the patriot, I don't know. And by the way you as we all do to Sunday, what about Monday through Saturday? I don't know, but the patriots. I'm gonna give you a bunch of names and people go to the patriots and play better than anywhere else. Garrett blunt. Danny amendola. Wes Welker thrill Rivas Rodney Harrison migrate and they did it. I'm not talking about playing. Wait, if that sport is a sport you play less than all the other sports. If you got to live, can this kid will live if he's excessively Fung available because his inner demons, not letting. No, but it's hard to just presume he's going to be okay because TB twelve. Oh, you don't you? You root for us. I do. That's what I'm saying. I do fascinating story coming from a group of NFL hall of famers hoping to leverage its collective position integrator benefits. Eric Dickerson writes that many hall of famers including this list, Tony, Jim Brown, Joe Nemeth, Lawrence Taylor. That's just a few, say the as a group, they struggle currently with severe health and financial problems. And as a result, demand health insurance and annual salary or may Kat the hall of fame ceremony. Her Warner says he does not believe way cutting is the means to achieve this end and wants to include all players, not just hall of famers, Tony, your thoughts, all of this are what last time we heard from Iraq Dickerson. He was slamming Jeff Fisher. That was an issue that he was on the right side of it turns out he's on the wrong side of. This issue. This is the most one percent or thing I have ever heard of, including the way we traveled. This is a joke. You can't just ask for the whole of famous people who, presumably we're in a position has step that they just lead the way if you have the most high profile of the players, ever it leading the way terribly selfish to demand annual salaries for hall of famers when the grunts the guys who worked in the trenches and got swept the side because of the hall of famers you're not immediately demanding for them. I don't think I don't think a boycott really means. I think these same people probably slammed Terrel Owens for boycotting his own induction. I, there's money there. There's well intention there. I find myself agreeing with Kurt Warner more than originally to say this. I like to see it for all players. Yes, not just the whole, yes. All plays into guess. Eric Dickerson didn't just say for the hall of fame is he said they should lead the way now selling that aside for second, there is money. You're right about that, but how do you ever get money out of NFL. Owners. What are you have to do? I guess you have to demand the goodwill because you have to say this to the NFL owners. You're concerned with safety. When we played, you weren't as concerned safety and we bear the brunt of this. We bear the medical psychological scars of all of your profit taking now do the right thing and help us out often do they on their own the right this is not on your own seldom if ever this is not on your own. This is I'm be popular. Rebel money has to leverage something to get anything out. I- NFL Eric, I'm not saying this is the way I don't think somebody's gotta let you can't just ask for the hall of famers to get Norfolk. Hi, Caleb Joseph, a catcher on the Baltimore Orioles who is currently batting a robust to thirteen told the athlete, there's a lack of accountability in that clubhouse last night, the Orioles lost their hundred and seventh game. They dropped sixty games out of first place. Joseph said, quote, you don't lose record number of games and not expect some retribution. EV. Single lock here should be thinking, you know, I should be fired because I sucked period on. Given Joseph's meager production, should he really be the one calling everybody out now, I know you are not going to pull a switcher route from the last story and tell me it's gotta be somebody else is a guy who's one of the masses saying, we stink and it's fine for him and see that because they don't have Cal Ripken Eddie. And Franco anymore. So they're not always stayed is. So in this case is fine. By the way, what's the biggest shocker when you look into a boggling into the stands, the stanza Candan yards or the stands at FedEx field for the Redskins we were there. We were there when Camden built and was the best ballpark in the major and you were always treated well when you were there and they had good teams. They were great franchise. They had athletes who stayed in that city forever and ever and ever because they were treated well, this is is almost unbelievable. I'll tell you something buck show. We'll fix lose a manager and he's gonna be out Buck Showalter manager for twenty years. Join the Yankees won seventy six next year. Eighty eight to any time in bags. One sixty five nicks one hundred. Join the ranges. One seventy one next year. Eighty nine join Orioles. One sixty nine next year ninety three and it's it's they. It's ghastly what they're doing ghastly well, okay. So this is just a voice in the wilderness by the way. I mean, we're talking and we actually care more about it because we spent a lot of time driving up. Yeah, I ninety Alta eighty memorial Hampton yours and yes, it was a great fresh is again, I tied these, maybe I shouldn't. I this with the Redskins a great organization for a lot of years. And now kids, raw flies, Tony. No, it's it's and Baltimore's a really good sport city though. A small population city without a whole lot of money, but they supported them so well for so long. Let's take a break coming up who is more likely to keep it going patent homes, Ryan Fitzpatrick and your boy, Nick Sabin. He crushes his former assistant. So should Jim be looking forward to Saturday's game Tuscaloosa Mitch savings. Now, my boy and I'm sure urban Meyer is now my boy to and Bob stoops my going was riches is easing. Boot or presidents boxers. Low of nature option is brought to you by America's biopharmaceutical companies. Go boldly. I just saved hundreds of dollars by switching to gyco. I'm as happy as a clam disclaimer. Geico cannot guarantee. You'll be as happy as a clam on the legal team cannot accurately verify claims even experience the complex human, emotional state, known as happiness as an invertebrate. Mollusks living emerged on the ocean floor with no arms legs. Wireless access what's there to be happy about a clams like all. I'm so happy. I didn't get turned into New England clam chowder today regionally as Toda tall. Aw, that's so fun to say. What were we talking about? Again, gyco fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. It's time for toss off were two men enter and one man hollers an empty clip victory. What's worse toss up more likely to keep it going. Pat Mahomes arrived Fitzpatrick. So I'm rooting for Fitzpatrick. He's thirty five years old because he's in the league fourteen years and he's never done anything like this. And this is a fairytale, but I probably would bet on Mahomes because I did he surrounded by more talent and there's no number one overall draft pick looking over his shoulder. Wondering when he's going to get his job back and they'll Tony. I like my instinct is agreed with you word for word there, but fits Patrick. He's had this role of coaster. He started a lot of gains up onto twenties, had good stars before, nothing like this. And then he's just flattened out and been terrible, got to go to the bench with him. So the safe, it's Patrick. I'm gonna say, it's better story. I don't care what sport you play and how great you are. Ali tiger is why everybody, except maybe shorten it region back the gods of. That sport bring you back to earth a little bit. It doesn't Mahomes. He's flying at the sun right now. Isn't he games too? It's an echo situated. We like to say next toss up who should be more excited about Saturday's game JIMBO Fisher or Nick Sabin. Well, I understand why Vichy would be excited because he's got a chance to beat the number one team in the country. Couple of weeks ago, he had the chance to beat the number two team in the country Clemson, and he came relatively close at that point. But the guy who is excited is saving because his team is great. They've scored a hundred seventy points in three weeks. They put forty nine on a conference opponent last week in the first half and two is a sensational quarterback. What that's Nick Sabin that's this year. That's last year before that it's next year is Tuesday. So what JIMBO Fisher's got something here in a kilogram now, say is more valuable, Forbes, I guess this is more value money, money, money, money, money, money, JIMBO Fisher. Any knows what the other. Assistant coaches, his brethren have done against the boss crushed enough. They got the answers JIMBO next toss up. They play Thursday, all win more games. This season, the jets or the Brown. Okay. So the jets already have one and they get buffalo twice, but they're crossovers the NFC central, which is very tough division. Cleveland should be to an and they have no win should be their ticket cost of the games, jet Ross over the NFC south where three teams classes, I will tell you this. I think Cleveland will win this game. And I think the winner of this game, whichever team wins will win more games. This season I think is probably going to be the jets by the way I wanna watch this game, and I would never have said that the only to the only thing that is in my head about these teams in hate the jets, you said you hated. I got mad at them because people like you in green. We're going nuts over this quarterback, Sam darnold one game. I don't hate the jets, but there's only one thing they have in common to me the opening Monday night football game. When I say open the. First of all time, and I think right four picks game if I'm not mistaken. Your idea about absolute next last one toss up more likely to win the National League. Most valuable player hobby bias or Christian yelich. Okay. So we've eliminated then Nolan are not when we've eliminated Trevor story and we've liberated garter we've limited. I have heard for months now that by as Jackie Robinson, it's, it's not a comparison that I accept that the moment that's socially on the diamond LA's assiting player in bays Ellie is is a head of him batting average, but behind him by one in homers behind him by twelve in arms about the yellow had a great second half which might influence voters more and it's going for the cycle twice including, does it have any play in this? It doesn't matter how you by is is superior defense player, I think is a favorite right now, but hobby by is a superior visit player. Tony yelich is a nice second basement. He's a really good second basement by this third. As out the shortstop, yellow second base outfielder he's a nineteen. Glad he's a ni- second base. Nice out though. Disquiet has started a second is you're right into the record. Let's take one last record. Breaking silicone. Why Jerry West in the clippers hiring Sports Illustrated wire, we Jenkins for their front office. I heard there you weren't available. I am. What are we gonna expect out of Aaron judge in his return to the lineup tonight against triple my salary, and I'm vailable to be in the front office anywhere you saying that they tripled Lee Jenkins and Sal a wild shot at you're working late. When you get into Lert on your smartphone, your blink motion, activated security camera, picked up something suspicious at home. You open your blink out and watch video clip of someone hearing through your kitchen window. You dial nine one one and police role. I mean, isn't the point of having home security to alert you before bad stuff happens? Not after. That's what blink does. Order your blink cameras now and get fifteen percent off at blinkprotect dot com. Slash score blinkprotect dot com. Slash score. On people happy. Twentieth birthday Christian. Listen, you remember last summer when Alexi Lalas derisively referred Tim is wonderful. We'll unlike lawless, never did squat in any of the Goodyear pay. Come on. Sick is starting for Baru SIA Dortmund into Bundesliga Willman you're not Mr. soccer. Tell us about politic. Wait a minute. You gonna say he's bogus for calling wonderboy that's not derisive necessarily. It's like me calling Tom Brady the golden where he is. The golden boy politic is the wonderboy. It was derisive not so happy anniversary of the polo grounds on this day. Fifty five years ago, the Mets play the final major league game ever that it was such a momentous occasion, seventeen hundred and fifty two fan you. One of the highschool burst of all, yes, the Mets didn't belong to the polo grounds. The giants did the giants of Willie Mays and montier in Mellat Christy Mathewson. So don't tell me about the Mets and polo grounds. The Mets were only there waiting for Shea Stadium to be built, adopt the Mets resent them playing in the polo grounds. Race to play Katie wasn't there. It was the giants, happy trails, Sports Illustrated for writer. Lee Jenkins Los Angeles Clippers of Jerry West and Doc Rivers or hiring Sports Illustrated writer. Lee Jenkins to newly created front office position of executive director of research and identity. Apparently, John has something to do with psychological profile of clippers players. What's wrong with the clippers is not their psychological profile. What's wrong with the clippers? Is it their players, get better players to a bone you? You wrote some of the greatest profiles in sport and nobody ever offered on all, you know, dot e has your number. Nobody ever said Khan, take our money and tell us what we're Xango doc on this set. We are no errors. Let's do the biking, Dan Bailey, replace the kicker. They cut Daniel Carson. Is that a good decision? I guess it's a good decision with kickers. All even seem just like skittish right now, the father of UCLA starting quarterback called up chip Kelly for lousy coaching and play collie deal UCLA. This could be a lavar ball situation again, then just cannot good dolphins, rookie. Minka Fitzpatrick has applied for the trademark fits magic. Is that smart on cheesy? I know what you're getting into riotous. Patrick, like he has some ownership of that after two weeks of the way they the one who is minkah Fitzpatrick you don't Kelly Saux Yanks tonight. Judge is going to bat second. When he spent. I spent two strikeouts. I expected double other. Yes, I expected w last one Rockies dodgers Freeman Kershaw who you like Louis had a better season. Kershaw has been hurt out as much in and out the freemen of sixteen game winners. What's the next time? I'm Tony Kornheiser. I'm Mike wilpon same tomorrow knuckleheads. You can get the PTI podcast on the ESPN app or apple podcasts your fasting tomorrow.

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Jalen Ramsey, Jamal Adams' late hit fine, Backup QBs in NO and PIT, Athletes on social media

Speak For Yourself with Cowherd & Whitlock

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Jalen Ramsey, Jamal Adams' late hit fine, Backup QBs in NO and PIT, Athletes on social media

"Hey Yeah Jimmy here and you speak for yourself. You're forced to think for yourself and when you think for yourself the sports world looks in order to enjoy this podcast and this show you need to have the courage to look at the world from alternative points of view and not be offended when you disagree speak for yourself. Isn't your twitter facebook instagram feed. SF Y tells you what you need to hear and not what you want so welcome aboard buckle. Look we start today. Jalen Ramsey Jalen Ramsey camp is big man at that do Marcellus Wiley early on yesterday so Marcellus had an interesting take on whether the Kansas City chiefs should pursue the pro bowl cornerback whose ass Jacksonville to trading rolling the dice ice and saying no this poach our team of a first round pick and a starter to bring in Jalen Ramsey who are remind you despite the perception Shen and the love for his game he was twenty four th ranked as a cornerback last year coming out of the season this year in two weeks. He's already dropped to eighty ninth ranked so if history victory is going south and your team subject is going north. Why is this a conversation? No today Ramsey these comments caught the attention of Ramsey's agent David Guetta who tweeted a rebuke of that Dude's opinion saying quote so Marcellus Ellis Wiley. This is what we've to just say the most outlandish thing you can think of and hope you get some attention go paul the wide receivers is in the NFL and see where they rank Jalen Ramsey. I would expect more from you but I guess these days. It's all about shock value. Get me a gas mask is getting awful smoking up in here lot amassing not all Marcellus woke up the entire Jalen in high Texans quarterback quarterback deshaun Watson chimed in tweeting. I don't think I agree with this. Tennessee Titans safeties Kevin Bar and Kenny Vaccaro tweeting cloudy Modi's at Marcellus and in the case of charge on charter crime no charges Safety Derwin James Sink cloudy Modi's from ourselves to and finally finally Detroit Lions Safety Quandary digs the brother of Longtime San Diego Charger Informer Marcellus teammate quinten jammer that Dude's head twenty somebody's old heads get on TV and lose. They mind me real quick clowning law okay but I have to say this does feel lit a little bit like an overreaction. I disagree with what Marcel is said about Ramsey. I think the team should pursue Jalen. He has a chance to be the next Dion Sanders Aka Ram Bro but all Marcellus did was referenced the grades of Pro Football Focus Ramsey will be the feature star tonight's Thursday night football matchup between the jags and the titans with the whole world watching Ramsey can showcases Rambo like abilities and put put a clown suit on Marcellus and pro football focus is Ramsey is insecure as this camp. Will he followed under the spotlight. He placed on himself with his trade demand. Is it wise for the Jaguars even play Ramsey tonight. We're joined by Fox sports. NFL analyst Eric Dickerson and Tj Husson Zodda cell is named for your head. They did Ramsey and his supporters into tonight's game. Are they confident you would think they would and I will preface this by saying I think Jalen Ramsey is a beast. I said that yesterday but you know me facts over feelings stats. That's oversensitivity. y'All y'all just showed me some insecurity so it's interesting special effects. I'm GonNa give you some more. How about you guys been targeted seventeen times? This year allowed eleven receptions to touchdowns at a passer rating of one twenty four point one that doesn't sound too good so y'all bringing this out of me. I'm just gonNa region numbers by comparison the number one corner by pro football focus is to file Gilmore rating is this year forty one opposing quarterbacks x so there is some thing to these numbers and I'm going to take it even deeper. Get a little personal with you 'cause there was about a three year stretch in my career where people were arguing with the best defensive out there. Some say a top five for sure but somewhat arguing. He's the best out there. I'm setting franchise records for contracts. I'm out there beast replacing Bruce Smith and you know what's funny about that. It wasn't the damn metric. It wasn't the Damn Google search you could Iran to ever found. My name is eighty nine ranked in anything so that to me is damnation of something that you need to look into beyond how you feel about it. When I fell off all of them I said I was eighty nine or whatever and Jane Ramsey has not fallen off but Jane the Ramsey has style of play that is not supported by the skiing? He's in and then you are in the crossroads. We've all been there as players man if they call this if they let me do this the ballers when I was balling but now it's mattering for these he's agents and it's interesting. A bunch of agents hit me up about this like David ripping but I get involved with this but let me tell you how this goes. There's a difference difference between being an agent and being representation and what's happening. Now is that these millennial age it's getting certified and Glamour School get their feelings hurt enable their saint players to goal G. Q. and clown every quarterback but then when you come back with some fact some number some metrics they can't take the same smoke they deliver but representation knows that I am preparing you're representing a professional athlete in a professional manner for not just the game of football but the game of life so David. You don't know me I'll know you we keep that way or we could break bread either way. I'm still going to start talking with these facts and I'm in with these facts. You'll feel no concern of mine. Man Ain't coming out more more sellers they don't do now. I got more to the question. Our support is confident heading tonight's game. I would be Mariota's and a quarterback. That's GonNa scare you. They don't have a receiver lever on a titans that that's going to scare them now. When I look at Jana Ramsey me being a former receiver that play I think he's a good DB in you? Look get the pro when when you say good I don't know who's the best 'cause. I'm not playing against them. I would rank him top three. I don't you based off this performance this year and last year I mean if you like people you look at pro football focus. He's been pretty consistent. Every year hundred targets in two thousand sixteen one hundred six targets twenty seventeen ninety seven charges of two thousand eighteen. He's given fifty four fifty seven fifty three catches. That's pretty consistent in a three year span same amount of yards give or take saint him on the intersection same amount of PBS give or take one or two and so he's been pretty consistent how they great. There's I don't know but statistically he's been pretty consistent. Now this what I will say I train a guy this year that was in Jacksonville and I said how good is Jalen Ramsey. Anti dog heated truth. That's what he told me and that's all I can go off. Bright Keelan Dolf said to me God. He's the truth and I wasn't able to play against him. He seems to be one of the better. DB's in a game yeah Marcella Harrison phillies yesterday to me like why did he make it personal oughta clown stuff come on oh man. I'll take what they want to hear. I never got into that zone. When I'm playing we've had emojis and all that stuff you know you? You said it best when when when a guy that plays played against you or like we're not playing that we don't we don't we're not there every day but other playoff klay of Shawn Watson says hey this guy can play when as a former player and you know this as well as I do myself and so you guys can play you know who who can play and who can't play when you feel the guy may not have the greatest number you like. Hey this guy can play well. We knew he'd be balled. You might not see it is sometimes the intangibles. It's the things you can't. It's not always about the numbers football focus football focus. Don't play football. They you know they they ain't come but nobody one thing about the defense back is. I've got to guess where you going. I'm the receiver you know when when you break the whole you know he'll row don't you. I'm over. I've got to guess where you go in every play so for sure when you hear other guys say hey man like you said he's the truth. You take that for what I would say though Eric Eric is why I think they're a little bit shake in here is because the guys are pro. Football focus are the same types of guys that make decisions on what your trade value is but they make and so if the Jacksonville Jaguars isn't we're want to first round draft picks with this guy and Jalen wants out of there and he wants someone to give that up but the evaluators are saying. Hey there may be a problem here. Let's be a little bit careful. That's what scares them if if his stock was seen across the board at what his ability says it should be. I think teams are quicker to give up. What Jacksonville's ask you say what they want say they one eight? I want to Jericho back again back to what you want and what you get is two different things but look we're locked his own to you got to follow the money to see where this is really going. David was upset that he thinks that my opinion could affect the money of his client in terms of trae value in his next contract when last time I checked Nakas when I was getting it breath I don't care who criticized it. They had numbers they they have fill you came out talk that so I don't know why you offended now and you want me to get into echo chamber which USA only glowing things when they are actually in any negotiation. I should go push back on you and they're going to use things like this. So it's amazing numbers support your argument into they don't have the post. Your arguments stated you got clients out there that are balling out of control. You Got Derwin. Jane's charge your MIC guy. I don't care what he thinks. I'm cloud but to me you still the beast fifth pro football focus. I bet you David teammates show he'd gone to meditate but I'm talking to WHO's on us after free up stairs one today's top five and already one year is good for you but are they bad for you. which way do you WanNa play that so I gotta religion? I'll tell you what their real fear is again because yesterday when you said those things and just by even pointing a finger like hey here's where pro football focus. It made me go. Oh I need to take a closer look. I gave you today right but once you enter teaching clue so that's a narrative they want to avoid for the reasons you're talking about. They want people to trade great form and when he gets he wants to be the highest paid defensive player. This is not the way to go about that. If you don't want this narrative out 'cause y'all actually put it out on we got a lot of risks is going around. Here is helping it which is not helping your calls. I'm I probably need to understand the pro. Football focus rankings a little better her. I don't know how you're ninety. One point three rating at twenty seventeen and you gave a more receptions in two thousand seventeen than you didn't sixteen and eighteen gene and so I don't know how all this stuff is graded off the eye test in just watching him play. He's one of the best. DB's knock and another thing no question when you're in Jacksonville and you're losing and you feel like you don't have he's pretty. They had one good year when he was there. Sometimes it sucks to say you just kind of go through them. I want to be here. No momentous play Man AG teams so this thing Jason when you guys guys that are true competitors when you pay them. They won't more heated topic the way he he had Asia Green lose his cool eight green owning talk he had the guy loses cool during the game because he was in his head so much. He's the type of guy you pay him. He's GonNa want more. You put them in a winning situation a good environment. I believe he's GonNa Thrive but once again we give give back to the same thing I said before. Everything can't be conducive to GE- issue this is a team game. We can disrupt press Jalen. I know you are a beast impress man not the same in zone but sometimes it calls for zone. Oh I gotta put you in a winning situation to give winning performances and you to buy another team is Leery of that because everywhere everywhere you go there. You are what happens when we face adversity on this new team what happens when we get that bump in the road and this new team now radio show me psychology say face adversity versity face versity Jacksonville s you know what I mean. So that's a different type you you play with a team like the chiefs. What adversity are they hidden would patch hall asked that if the ball game play on a winner as and you heard me say this before when you win? I don't care what's going on. You can begin beat but they win it man. We haven't a good time over it. It don't even matter almost when you win Eh. He goes on to say if he does go to the Kansas City chiefs. They see something that maybe football police. Don't see they say look. He fits our scheme. He Fits our defense well. They see what most everybody sees potential. Do you put him with Pete. Carroll Solid Defence Pau aw man that stoller defense him he going to be hitting the best league. We like to hear what defense are quickly here. Do you all agree. He's on the trading block. There seems to be thought that on Friday he can get traded. He's going to play tonight against the titans. Is that smart for the Jaguars to do. Yeah it is smart and I know it's a little counterintuitive in terms of why would you put them out there at the injury risks but this is the problem if you're a coach Barong so you're like I got fifty two other dudes who know that there's no safe place between I WANNA be traded but you still on this roster wearing a black and teal. Guess what I need. You on the field up stairs is doing their business. Your agent is doing this business and I'm GONNA take care of my business which means if you're healthy and you're able you are going out there and playing this football game unless I get some other instructions but you can't start to open up that can of worms for any culture winning or losing that says I don't feel like being here I wanna go and until that moment I just tapped out he's not suspended. He's not hurt is just a horrible message to tell everybody body else near when you don't feel it. You Ain't gotta do it. They should not plan. It's a possibility in their minds that we're going to trade them. You don't play you don't wrist Sanjay. You have a chance to get draft picks to help your franchise out. Now you say Oh the other guys there's only a half guys on each team that can demand stuff reflective so you can get away with it. That's IT and out of those handful is probably only one or two. That's really enemy. Do that type of stuff yeah. This doesn't happen often. You should not play them. If there's the PA. They say he's going to be traded on Friday. No way come watch the game. Say Goodbye to your teammates and we'll see you on your way but he should not play at all. I think he should play. I mean I think people afraid and think about Earl Thomas. I think he's he's a cornerback he he I mean he's not not a receiver. He's not a running back. He's not going to get real. His job is to cover. I mean that's that's the most important thanks so you do plan. Let's say goes and has two picks now that the price goes up payment we can say hey. This is why we want. This is why we want to two forslund picks me up I I if I'm Jalen Ramsey. I get why he wants to play Thursday night. Football world's GonNa Watch. He gets showcases abilities. If again like Eric said if he does come up big it helps the trait and it helps them get paid. Hey guys this Jason Whitlock from speak for yourself. 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Let's move to jet safety Jamal Adams who didn't have a great showing Monday night against the browns Adams got flak lack for a late hit on Baker Mayfield and later got benched after back to back penalties for offsides encroachment yesterday. Adams got fine twenty one thousand dollars for the hit and took to twitter to vent his frustration writing quote this league as a damn joke. I just got fined twenty one K but this hip it signed up to play football. Not Two hand touch bull believe I don't give a damn about these self rules protecting quarterbacks. I'm I'M GONNA play my brand of football. Every time I step on the field shaken does is Jamal. Adams have a point no doesn't have a point. I played the position of where you get to contact a quarterback to most on defensive line defense event and we started to learn even before these rule changes that is restricted airspace. You have a step maximum. You can try and play it off even in in that one step this is almost two steps. Now was the motivation of this Monday night football so we know that get into Baker Mayfield Oh. That's going to be something of magnitude but I don't like this for one reason. Why don't you just get there in time or like? God did a miniature plays next play because if it was about me getting near late and still getting a hit or all happened is imaginary sex but real penalties and this trip about this. I think this is part of this tough man mantra that people were trying to sail but the toughest thing about planet position is doing it the right way. It's still accelerate it by planet by the rules and I just don't like things like this and then you come out with the premeditated already scripted a tough man speech when you knew in the moment that you were doing the wrong thing I mean I think he has a point to be honest with you. I know once I got out the league was just crazy crazy how to NFL started doing guys will get fine for facemasks. I'm not really trying to face massive. What you're GonNa find me ten thousand dollars face man? I got a fifteen yard penalty to hurt the team gene now. You're GonNa find me twenty one the tweet I don't mind it I think everything after the BS he should not have put in a tweet now. I don't give a damn about these rules so now you're next penalty. You're probably going to double. It's going to be forty thousand in after that. You're going to double that and then you probably going to get suspended and so he should've left had outta here I get sometimes you just take a penalty like I run forty yards. I'm tired I'm GonNa hit you. You get penalty and you take define. Yeah fine like come on like Gimme the penalty you don't find me. Give me a warning okay. I got you what you hear. I think he does have a point and for me honestly as an offensive player watching the way the game has transpired it has changed in for Defensive Guy. It probably does appear to be softer but these are rules that have been said pleased that you are going to have to buy you said it best that back end of that tweet about playing his brand of football ball and he doesn't care no you better care you have to because you can say all of that's all great. You have a point you did take step. Maybe a step in the half but if Baker the pumps in that ball comes down then you need to make a place so I don't mind him what he did but you have to care because on Tuesday every single week thank you think your brand new football which is deemed to be fed illegal. If it's this you go had fed ex packers in that locker every Tuesday and after that you're gonNA start getting suspended I don't. I don't like this hit it all. I don't get it first of all because he lowered his helmet. He was why why he lowered his helmet. That was one on let's just let's just cuddle debate. Deeper who's his defensive coordinator of Greg Williams who was the browns rounds interim coach that led them to victory and felt like he should have got the job who was the quarterback said no mic my friend Freddie Kitchens the head coach so I don't think the league she has a choice here Oh. BJ was talking about Greg Williams before the game dirty hits and Lo and behold. There's a dirty hit or semi dirty him Baker Mayfield Lee has no choice here and to me Jamal Williams. Jamal Adams is throwing up a smokescreen. Here's bitch. You liked football. That's a dirty hit though even think about it there's levels that is one. Let's talk about the physical play right there. There's three points of contact like you said he lowered his head. Didn't he hit him with his torso and then the extension of the arms look all of that voluntary. We all play football. I'll play deposition. That doesn't happen twice. I am actually trying to do something whether it's a messaging or just live up to my mantra to the NFL protects x what the shield and quarterback quarterback. That's the engine brother and it's already restricted airspace and rules in place while violated. I get that but we're saying I'm I'm not I'm not trying to deem whether or not this is legal or illegal but if we're gonNA break this down like he is not leading with his head he he lowered at the loader odor every defender Lou Tomar tackle me Jami first of all. We talked to actually have your head up like this many times. If you actually tackling the Union three hundred twenty six hundred this we act like every micro movement movement is not calculated into it becomes the issue then it's like I can stop for a million dollars. He could've stopped at a four dollars. Don't touch one hundred into percents money right. He could have solo your helmet. You got that Hoodie Laura Bush you me you show me tackle this Sunday. NFL where somebody makes attack with us now shoestring where they don't lower their head. I'm old enough to remember a y'all old. They used to call this. A DELIVERY SET L. Legalize the delivery sack. They've made it crystal clear to me this to me. The delivery to me is really for defensive Lineman a safety running up from that far when the guy clearly have released the ball. There's there's no reason to have a delivery again he got bits played poorly had had three penalties countenance one and got Vincent analysist or smokescreen the NFL's a damn joke now bra and Demaim show you a hell of a player and so so you were the joke on in on Monday night and they find you for and again. Let's don't pretend like these kids are these young guys are stupid and live in a vacuum accu. He knows the smoke between Greg Williams and the Cleveland browns organization and he's out there keeping up for Greg Williams and it cost him look at me. I just look at the amount amount of the fine twenty one thousand dollars for that hit a lot with a winning forty based on all right yeah based on all circumstances Greg Williams this this is a quarterback. We're trying to build around lovie Jay talking before the game about it I would have I would hit him even worse than that in the Pasta. You can't wait a minute. I mean look we're not played. This real Peyton Manning High Bruce Smith hit him low aiming right here since Bruce Undercut them boom I hit them did hit ten thousand dollars this twenty years ago ten thousand dollars and that was with no intention with locking Wiley Eric Nixon and C. J. Cushman's Outta Cam Newton who has been dealing with a foot injury this week and now reportedly is unlikely to play Sunday after missing practice again today. Cameras had a rough start to the years. The panthers have fallen to Owen to and today Ron Rivera got a little testy when asked about his quarterback. Would you think Cam Dan would travel in either event or would that be decided to see. You guys want to sit there. Watch so you'll have to wait and see. I'm a talk about it anymore. Guy's I mean let's talk about Arizona. I mean I haven't really talked about Arizona so it'd be good. They enter those kind of questions. Cam Dan though I know it's about Cam but that's you know that we will. I don't know any more until tomorrow so let's just let's talk about Arizona if not there's no reason for me to stand here before for the opener be one hundred percent company can be ready to go. Where are you going that level now? I just ask you questions about somebody else. I'm not GonNa do this guy. I told Y'all the hot water Ron Rivera bit testy here these think the panthers still overview Cam Newton as their franchise quarterback absolutely as they should but there is some conversation going on about is this the new Cam Newton injury prone undermining his greatness because of injury and if that's the situation Russian you can start to see them licking their fingers grabbing the corner top right corner of the page not flippity yet starting to get into that mindset of maybe we we have to start digging of alternatives and Fortunate Cam Newton bought a numbers no touchdowns this year running or throwing that's been four games with no passing and touchdowns going back to last year he has the highest error growing percentage in the NFL uncatchable balls for TJ. Who's from his Outta the the highest so I know it's an injury related? I can see that I believe that but if your organization that has to do due diligence and prepare for what's next there there is some internal conversation. Is this a new Cam Newton's yeah they still view them as a franchise quarterback but when you go on your last eight starts is some doubt out in her mind saying is he still franchise quarterback and when I look at it like he's averaging two hundred eighty six yards passing this year that's more than he's done in his entire tire career what he's missing. If he's really hurt is the mobility from running perspective his heart he can't run the ball and that's what's missing. He's always been thrown a ball. That's nothing new. He hasn't been the most accurate passer but he's been effective because he's been able to run the ball and so if he can get his foot right but what he better hope collie going there and play well because in Colorado only start last year he had one hundred Eleven Pass Rain So if Collin Cam Newton misses more than one game out and balls then they can say maybe he's not our franchise quarterback. Isn't it funny how dare not tell you when you own to you to know how to differences references man oh into that'd be to know he answered that question no problem of course he's a franchise quarterback. We struggling right now. we still one one but see the Owen too. I believe that Cam is still a franchise quarterback but I think a lot of people wanna see that Oh cam when he won the MVP and we haven't seen that in the wild. There's something I mean it's because of injuries I mean and you write scam is a scrambling quarterback. He's a guy that can get out of trouble. He's a big target. He's a to me a quarterback. That's taking a lot of shots and he's a quarterback still treat him like almost like a running back but I still say he is a franchise quarterback there. I think there's real doubt and I think in Cowan's being given a shot here against one of the worst teams in football. They were the worst team last year might be again if not for Miami the probably the second worst team same if kyle and shows anything there's going to be a QB controversy in Carolina if he shows anything because cams never going to run again Dan. He's never going to be that same running dynamic quarterback again. He's taken too many shots. That's over. That's why he's been trying to transition into a pocket passer. I really think they're trying to give this due to weak off to get his head right. Because I'm uncatchable balls the inaccuracy he's he's never been the most accurate but now it's gotten to a level where it's almost embarrassing and it's hindering the offense from having any success and so if he's never going to run again which I think everybody everybody knows them. Days is done kin. Cam Newton really be a franchise pocket passing quarterback. I don't think Carolina believes he can be there are realities occurring to all your points in. Let's add this layer. Here's one reality this division is wide open only division. NFC It doesn't have to winnow team so we could catch up really fast. Here's the problem if you go out there and lose this next game. You're three since one thousand nine hundred eighty. There's been one hundred sending sixteen. They started only three only six have made the postseason and I was on one of those and you know what it took for us to go from three to ten six and make the playoffs new quarterback quarterback new quarters so tell you rather do the history on this. This is a tough place to be answering your question with lock he he can't just transform himself into a pocket quarterback when he won. MVP completed just under sixty percent of his passes in today's NFL where you can't touch a receiver ver- very low in so it's going to be hard for him and say okay now. I'M GONNA turn in to a baby drew brees incomplete sixty five percent of my passes in the quarterbacks last year he competed in its highest percentage of his career last year so give him off and he was sixty-two MVP candidate before and then you lose your your next eight starts in so win. Hurt you can complete seventy percent passes. If it's not translate into wins it doesn't matter that's that's what it's all about wins. I I called Allen is not GonNa Take Cam Newton's position and if Walker wins next two games. I still say no. He's not he's not going to. I mean I just I don't. I don't believe that I mean I think the Carolina Panthers Steel Look at Cam Newton as their guy even wear scarfs but still we saw we had to see that but but I still think that he is the guy I hold on the. I think it's like anything his head coach. I think more than anyone wants to see him succeed and I think it would if him not plan well a playing hurt. It's almost like unfair like I'm not healthy. I'm not one hundred percent. I want you to answer this seriously man you one of the greatest players ever played a game ever and people had the expectation expectation every week and in order to be that player in didn't matter how you were feeling there was Eric Dickerson standard of play if he was a little banged up here their use still were able to meet that standard. I think that's the question with Cam is when he's not physically the one hundred percent can he consistently play at a high level like the all time greats some guys just and again you call hall of being weak but it's not week but there's like a special power that the all time greats have the maybe cam does that that's that's a great question to because it comes down to pride it eh do it comes down to pride because it was a lot of times I was hurt but I'm still gonNA give it one hundred percent. I've had I had some great games being hurt. I mean the room for two thousand yards. I had a turf toe all year. No one knew that that's my point so it comes down to like I'm so you know how do you not turf you not only can he be consisted when he's not physically one hundred percent. That's a legitimate question. It is and look there was a day where everyone I was in Los Angeles. Being a native thought Eric Dickerson is Aram forever. A Ram trade happens whatever it may it'd be camps in a different position. Some guys are really suffering from the curse of the gifted you check your gauges if everything's is now filling right. I'm a little off right now. Cam Newton has relied on such athleticism that now is starting to lean where you better rely on fundamentals and that's what he's trying to transition transition into so i. I don't like to equate debt. This is a pain tolerance or mental minimalizing issue. This is a guy who was like whoa. I can't do the same things I've been doing. My entire life willing be allowed an opportunity to change those things. What are the what did he built another organization all right? You got anything that here Yes sir speaking of Cam Newton last week. He was on Thursday night football tonight as you guys mentioned. Earlier is the titans and Jack's so let's talk Thursday the football super six one of the questions for tonight is wishing win by how many points so we're like Marcellus got I got the titans okay and a very low scoring seventeen to fourteen shootout yet not many bullets times as well. I think they beat the Jags ex-boss former team to Jack's thirteen seven and please. Oh my God jalen dough tweet at me on those tests you gotTa Damn near Unwatchable Jack. CDC I'll be tonight download the Fox sports super six complained Thursday night football super six free for a chance to win twenty five thousand dollars Brasov plenty with blocking Wiley Eric Dickerson a Tj who's back time now for Dardanelles question of the day darnold taken away. Sarah's moved to Dallas cowboys released deficit Van Taco charging yesterday. ooh former first round pick has been an active this season earlier. This week tweeted out free me before deleted. He fought it about tween trust me the last thing I wanNA WANNA do is go to social media to WANNA play football again after he was released. Jerry Jones say teams players doing social media and they can cost them opportunities. I want to ask you guys do athletes are blind to how social media affects their careers or do they just not care. It's Taco ask me y'all stay between the line. I think they're blind. Ah To be I I and a little bit. I think they don't care but I think they're mostly blind and they've been led to believe that man social media is the way to go. It's we're your show all your freedom and Blah Blah Blah and there are real repercussions you leave a trail that executives and your bosses all follow look. It was an idiot. Go check out my Jeremy Lin tweet from six seven eight years ago to me and a bunch of trouble so I've been right where these guys right I yeah I don't want to down them. I was just as dumb and I was older than them. I'm glad you said that because I'm not gonNA be up here and be it'd be a but whether it'd be real they're not blind and I know they care. The problem. Is Let's be real about this. The hormones the dopamine opening the release the control is the same as it is for anyone who has done something unlawful unethical or immoral and we've have all been there. I go run our ten lowest moments of our lives but we all do the same equation. I won't that and these are the consequences you you know what I won't that a little more and I'll deal with the consequences. Adam schefter talks about this every time he has a breaking news story. He's like when I hit that send button. I see hearts in those re tweets in those likes going like Casino Slots Jingjing just love it and everyone has a different different degree of that same receipt that same reception which our interaction with social media in the moment this. I think he did the same calculation a lot of us do especially when you're young you just think that you deal with the consequences and they are not as grand as they become so. I'M NOT GONNA kill them are athletes blind. They're not blind. They know what they're doing and it can help their career as well if they do things the right way in this case specifically he wanted to be released. He wasn't playing as guys hurt suspending spending you can get on the field. Do what you can get released and hopefully you get a chance to go play somebody else now on the flip side of that is they know when you put some mm out there. Everybody's get it right away in. If you're a good person you do things the right way. It can actually help your career as well as social media can have a positive has effect and a negative effect. Just depends on what you put out there and how you conduct yourself as a human being widely deleted in Asia toting to Ah Dallas cowboys they got a social media department and everybody was with the Dallas Cowboys. Do I think in some points they don't care and I think in other ways he's the kind of stupid too in the sense because like you say it can help you and it can hurt you a lot of ways. It can help you if you put the the right things out there you saying the right things if you do something dumb like the U. is two thousand nineteen in two thousand twenty five that dumped. I didn't think much of that now now all of a sudden that pops up again yeah you know what my friend tells me this all the time when he's saying he's faced with temptation something that he knows that may come with some consequences he says always look at temptation from the end at fourteen forty caught me off guard did quick math twenty four times sixty fifty minutes a day later when you right before you bought the hit at about a day later. Do you want that and how mean just online I mean your life when when you buy the go make that turn when you answer those three bubbles in his two thirty in the morning you know you can make right. Go home left. Go there talk fourteen forty man distinct in twenty four hours. Was it really worth it to say something like that that your age could even talk you into deleting you already originally though for this case specifically Taco truck do Robert Quinn was suspended for two games. You're inactive randy. Gregory is still suspended. You're inactive wrong Crawford name playing. You're an active at this point. He can't make it any worse for himself. Now you go to another team and you don't play it's on you but right now he's saying. He believes he's good enough to play. He should've been playing obviously the coaches dot otherwise and so for him. Go somewhere else and see if you can get on the field and change the of course direction of your career yeah I think he's saying they don't like me. No matter what I do if all these guys go down and they still won't put me on the field I want to burn this bridge and get the hell out of here and again his agent talked about it but for the very reason Jerry Sanders like hey man these other the next Jerry Jones and he's not gonNa like this either he doesn't. He wants to keep in house business in house. He doesn't want it all out there over social media so you may be there may be one the two teams the way we don't WanNa Bother Taco and his age is like we want the whole field wide open to us cooperate with me a little bit here on social media but I think Marcellin says point about that high we get from social media and re tweets and likes it Bates. That's all I can still remember. I was in Las Vegas hasn't had a drink when I sent that dumb Jeremy Lin tweet and inappropriate Jerry tweet that I had to apologize for and I just remember thinking on we'll get a lot of retweeting and I was in my I had to be in my early forties yeah yeah I was kind of stupid. I'm so glad so glad when I was young there was no social suspended so many top I wouldn't even played but now I don't like that because we had our own variables to deal with and we managed to be professional and not stepping too often. Let's just be real if you're sitting in class and you like this class is not for me. My teachers not receive in my work well. She keeps giving me bag rates. You don't stand up in the classes out of here. You quietly go upstairs to the admissions office principal's office the dean. That's not hard and we didn't have social media but we know that you can't always destroy situate us right aw Eric Dickerson. TJ Who's been Zonta are back as movie Kansas City where the Patrick mahomes and the chiefs cheese will host Lamar Jackson and the Raven Sunday the MAR has been a new man so far this season lighting up the league through the air in the first two weeks and yesterday Andy Reid had nothing but praise for the league's top-rated passer saying quote the kid is a heck of a player. He's a talented kid to work with the coordinators and the quarterback coaches. They've opened up the gate for him. They're doing a million different things and he's doing it. Well and it looks like he's loving doing it all right. The question here is Andy so should be worried about Lamar Jackson's arm absolutely last year Lamar Jackson went out to candidate he had his worst completion percentage performance of the year second row game of his career fourth overall start and went toe to toe with the Kansas City chiefs and he wasn't fully comfortable in office and he certainly wasn't playing at this level right now now and that was the result. Oh you go out there this year with this level of confidence with the way the team is performing. Why wouldn't he go out there and just say I'm ready for? It and I think that that's where he is and I know the chief said look we had a lesser version of this guy last year and they damn near beat us. Don't you go out there sleeping on this kid because the kid is multidimensional and talented yet. They should be worried about his arm the way he's playing in a ways improved. It's almost scary too if he can really consistently continue to throw the ball like this but you say they did play the dolphins and they have played the cardinals and so so you have to say that because those teams are that bad but the thing is this says Lamar Jackson has been a started with the Baltimore Ravens they've averaged two hundred and twenty eight yards a game game Russian and so you gotTa pick your poison like this ain't this. NFL Two hundred twenty yards per game in nfl so oh you really WanNa make him throw it just so that their one dimensional thank you and Ozzie newsome when when he picked Lamar I I I called him timmy you know is he. A real quarterback is a this guy is going to be the guy you know and he said for the reasons they say people look look at him as a runner he hates it. He has a great. He said that he will learn how to become a quarterback. You see put on weight this off season. He looks more like a fit quarterback so I say for sure they have to be worried about his arm and his legs and I think Andy Reid is saying a lot of very nice things appropriate things in the media I think when he gets in the meeting room with his players he's far less appropriate and far less. They're going to make Lamar beat them with his arm 'cause. They don't think he can do it. They don't think he can survive a shootout with Patrick Mahomes. They're going to take away this running game name. Lamar Jackson Ran Sixteen Times for one hundred and twenty yards last week the whole Damn Arizona defensive staff should be fired over that. You can't unless some college quarterback come out there and just run the ball down your throat. That's crazy and again. Lamar Jackson has been a much improved passer this year sure he's made some incredible throws but the chiefs are GonNa WanNa make this do do it for an entire four quarters with Patrick mahomes on the other side online. I don't think they think he can do it. I think they do I disagree with that and even to indict Arizona in a way that they approached it Iska Matic it's the same thing if you think about Eric Dickerson and Eric Dixon had all the abilities you can ruin you over run by you and that's what this office is as we can run it down your throat or we can now throw it. Because how are you gonNA play. The eight. Men in a box is a non men in the box so that just opens up acreage and if you look look at a team that's multi dimensional like this. They just keep you off balance enough to exploit you so I'm not saying that they're going to go out there and win this game or exploited but the fear is certainly in your heart when you're facing them because if you crowd the box he can't throw it he will dart it over. You and I didn't see him do a sixty minutes and andy he read. I got to see him do it for you. In overtime to you want everybody that they play is going to have this game. Plan is if we let them start running a ball aw number one Kansas City if let them run a ball that's less possessions for Patrick Mahomes He's going to eat up the clock so we'd rather say okay. We're going crowd a box and if you can beat us the WanNa ball it's going to be a shootout. We score to so now you score. Okay Pat Homes get the ball now. We're going to go down and score. We can't let you just run a ball. Eat up the clock and limit our possessions. The answer Andy Reid is going to say we don't stack this box. We're going to give them different looks but every look we give them designed to stop the run. We say the same thing you just picking a poisoning. This is is going to be. Let's try to give my quarterback maximum possessions and I can't do that. If I'm letting them run the ball I think they're going to do what they do best and they they do run the football oh but I think he'd like you said if they give them the pass they take it's no way he can match throwing the football with Mahomes. That's not gonNA happen but like you you say it. They can keep them on the field office on the on the sideline. Keep a hold on the sideline. That's what they WANNA do because that way it limits the scoring they can do. We update headlines at eight o'clock up look. I think someone said earlier this week. I don't think Frank Clark has a sack yet. That's a problem for Kansas City. They need to put hands on the Mark Jackson and that means eight in the box that means there's GonNa be some blitzes. They are going to run game blitzes. They're going to to do everything in their power to shutdown that run a game and make Lamar make throws with people at his feet is been great what he's done against the dolphins and the cardinals. I cannot wait to see him do it against the best team. AFC if he does it hats off off and the sky's the limit if he does often the sky's the limit homes is on the other side lines. I just I just I don't think he can go throw for throw winning this going to be some turnover. Look the Ravens lead the NFL and scoring to Lamar Jackson has the longest streak of a one hundred seventy eight pass attempts. No interceptions three go back to week three last year Patrick Mahomes when you just couldn't believe is but it was telling you he's real like I remember member that because everyone was and they doing it to Lamar Jackson and problem is who he was not that good last year and Whit to overtime inefficient it'd be now. He's this guy. y'All GonNa sit there and say. I don't think he can throw him. Patrick mahomes are the only two guys in NFL history history seventy percent completion seven touchdowns no interceptions they first two games him and the guy he's playing against. We can't keep slightly. Ain't nobody sadnesses sinuses light is what would how would you rather lose running the ball we get seven possessions yeah total ball. We might get ten to eleven possessions in Baltimore. Defensively people got earl. Thomas is a safety in would he'll be in as good as he is. He's not GonNa make it easy on Patrick Mahomes and so what's not going to be as easy as people think we're okay tyree KIO. He's not playing Meco harming Travis Kelsey Sammy what Earl Thomas is GonNa have some say about that but me personally asleep I gotta give Patrick Mahomes maximum possessions stop on four hundred zero but you're also saying what Baltimore is going to try to minimize his possessions and that's why I think they're gonNA come out there and try to stuff this running game down the chiefs throat and that's why I think the chiefs are going to do everything in their power to stop it and at some some point. I don't know which quarter is going to be third or fourth quarter is GONNA come down to Lamar. Can you do with Patrick Dust. Can you go up been down this feel the way you need to very quickly. I just I'm GonNa Lean on Patrick Mahomes. The the ball comes out of this kid's hands different. I just gotTa see Lamar Jackson. I I've never seen the ball a good quarterback's hand does he is. I had to see it against the best competition. Is You know Kansas. City outside of the world is the Seattle is probably the hardest place to play for crowd noise. Oh what's going to help. Baltimore is if they are able to run the ball because now less is the communication a he asked to have with all the rest of the players on the team so if he's able to run the ball it does take the crowd out of it because Planning Kansas City is no joke with that crowd and I'll go back to what I said. You're going to do what they do. They run the football. They're going to run it. They're gonNA throw it short. You know it comes out of his hands different different but you know what this passes are tight. I mean they really are. They're right on the line. It's not like it comes out like wobbly. It's a Ni- you might like you might not like the way he throws getting getting there. I think we're GONNA find out a couple of different things. I'm not a big believer in the chiefs. Defense Hitchens's still out there at linebacker drives drives me crazy and so we're going to find out if the chiefs have a real defense or if they improved at all scheme switch new personnel. We're GONNA find out if that's improved and I think we're going to get a lot closer to the truth about Lamar Jackson is he. The next guy is he the the next Russell Wilson is he on the same level as the Shawn Watson. I'm not ready to go to lean Patrick. mahomes yeah don't do that. It shouldn't be leaning. Let's go deeper. Analysis is the last year game when he had less confidence and less experience and less of an offense game winning drive. He fumbled getting over. Tom Gets hurt then fisk game and they still almost one again they lost by AH three. I'm just telling you simple mathematics and the confidence translation. You're taking it this year. They're going to do some over to our before we go. I'd like to address Colin Kaepernick's most ardent supporters in the media the ones yelling this week the NFL is unfair because cap remains unemployed. They're the people I refer to as Caper Knicks the people donning superman cakes in defense of the symbol formerly known as Colin Kaepernick Aka Mute Hamad Ali elite Caper Knicks. You might be fooling the idiots who interpret the world through social media but smart people see through your racial facade you don't I don't care about the advancement of black people particularly black men you care about the perception that you care about the advancement of black people you care about pleasing your puppet master who would like to see the NFL removed from its perch atop American popular culture you care about a political agenda designed to thwart patriarchy rocky or as you call it toxic masculinity you cape for cap for what it says about you not because of what it does for black people this is true of both black and white Capex. They both suffer the same guilt share the same ideology on are equally lazy. Sustainable advancement is is the byproduct of motivation creation and innovation that's why the NFL has done and will continue to do far more to advance the position of black black man than all the whining Caper Knicks combined the football league the Caper next label as racist and grossly unfair to their non speaking fearless leader is the the same league the relies on an employee base of seventy percent black players. It's the same league the pay's Russell Wilson the most money and soon will elevate Dak Prescott and Patrick mahomes above Wilson is the gold near of light skin and black quarterbacks Shawn Watson Lamar Jackson Jacoby Kyle Murray Jameis Winston Teddy Bridgewater Bridgewater and maybe Cam Newton all join prescot mahomes and Wilson and starting lineups this weekend so let me get this straight the NFL has the most popular TV show on five different television networks and you want me and us to demonize it when his black stars have never been more valuable and more prevalent in sports highest is position of on field leadership and power all because the juicy small layoff football decided he wanted to enhance his brand by protesting police misconduct conduct at a football stadium rather than at City Hall. This is like being served a bad burrito at Taco bell and going to McDonald's to complain about it but we'll get more attention at McDonald's so it's still stupid and won't do a damn thing about Taco bills burritos but at least we're talking talking about it and that's my point Kaepernick and capper knicks just WANNA be discussed. They don't want change or advancement. They want retweets likes follows. A conversation focused on their alleged desire to promote black advancement meanwhile better than any other American industry mystery the NFL keeps helping the black man advance through opportunity taping for cap is an easy way to create a feeling of self righteousness and the perception perception you speak truth to power from the safety of your keyboard and talk show studio catering for the NFL is proof. You recognize the inevitable fallout fall out from one man's unplanned Halo could be protests shouldn't turn you against an industry where black men or excel. That's easy for me to say. Actually I believe in doing things that help black people with Greg is back with us. Let's look ahead to this weekend. mm-hmm sponsored by this bar cashcard from capital one both the steelers and the saints will be underdogs this weekend with both future hall of fame quarterbacks Big Ben Rothlisberger Burger and drew brees out for the foreseeable future. Mason Rudolph will be leaving the Pittsburgh steelers on the road this week against the forty niners while the saints haven't even named their to start yet still deciding between tastes hill and Teddy Bridgewater on the road against the seahawks question here is better chance of pulling off the upset with their backup a quarterback steelers are the saints who I'm GonNa go to you Greg yea. Neither one of them GonNa win but I'm really talking about a chair exactly exactly it's a better chance and now we'll go with the saints I will go with the saints and here's why when you look at Shawn Payne he's already at work when he was asked about tastes them hill being the second option and he's like Whoa Whoa Whoa you're assuming that he's the second guy so he's already putting pressure on the Seattle seahawks defense to prep and prepare for two guys now mind mind you. I believe that Ted. He's going to be this primarily guy but there was things last week and I again. I like Sean Payton but there was things last week that I saw on Teddy Bridgewater. That was a little concerning when I play Teddy Bridgewater as a rookie I had a conversation distinctively teddy. You have to fill it not see it meaning when you drop back and you fill it. You gotta let that ball go. You can't see it because at this level at that point the defender season everybody else sees it in in that window of opportunity closes so I think he can take that next step which Sean Payton putting together a plan that will consist of both of these guys being involved they they have the better chance he made the opposite argument though in terms you gave me a reason why I love the point you made about Teddy Bridgewater. Can he feel it because that is the game for feel at that position and that's my question about teddy and that's why the steelers Joe Staley out for the San Francisco Forty niners steelers fallen Owen three desperation on their part and I just think Seattle is better than San Francisco. I'm I'm going with the saints and I'm going with that combination of what you said experience in the wildcard or tastes them hill if you think about what they have in turns turns of that shared experience whatever that may be that may lessen the pressure on them. Have you ever think about the dynamic will players always say all I need is take the first hit people always take that is like this physical dimension or physical encounter. It's really upstairs. You just WanNa make sure I survived that. It's going to be good now and guess what when you go out there and it's a shared experience and I'm not saying I wish bad on tastes them hill or trading bridgewater water but what are they gonNA look at all that bad. He just do a good play I can do that. Oh like they're gonNA take hits together. That brings brings a relief to that pressure and you look at the forty niners while not going with chew and steelers that's the only team in NFL that hasn't had a three and out yet damn Kyle Shanahan out there calling office right. We're going to be tough but we talked about Kansas City being a tough place to play Seattle tough place to play PK Defense Russell Wilson Jimmy Garoppolo and Garoppolos Nice San Francisco that crowd that it it is if you start to look on the opposite side of the ball and say we'll which deepest do you trust more and I look at the saints and I'm like I trust that defense more to make sure we have opportunities with these two guys that we're GonNa come at you with versus a young pretty much a rookie in terms of experience when we talk about Mason Jason Rudolph because this is his first starting experience in his career so we don't know what to expect and he has a young supporting cast around Greg. I want to circle back to your appoint bridgewater because we don't have a lot of time but I think you hit on something. That's separates the bad quarterbacks from the good quarterbacks. Some guys can fill it. Some guys have to see and he doesn't have a big arm and I think that's what hinders him a lot of times the he knows it in his. He's just like we saw last week. There was throws that was their teddy. Let that ball go right now. Because you don't have that big arm you don't have that Aaron Rodgers Ben Rothlisberger harm where you can just wait in laser within their after seeing it. There are a lot of quarterbacks in this league that can do that the patching homes yes but other guys have to get it out right when they know it's going to happen half Jimmy sear. He's going to help me do an approval rating on our Marcellus Wiley who's been in a controversy. I see this week you you big dummy of the day I'm sure after all the heat marcel took controversy. You're going to jump on board Jalen Ramsay. I'm sure well big today. Go to the person that once again dropped at but every time you do going to get the big dummy you also know that Lebron has a patent on that so you plan to go through learn that didn't work are let's talk about our guide. Marcellus Wiley Wiley who got into it with Jalen Ramsey's agent David Muga letter on twitter after pointing out on the show yesterday that Ramsey hasn't been the dominant corner. Everyone thinks he is our Marcellus. Do you expect Ramsey to prove you wrong tonight. Oh absolutely man this prime time Tony Game on only game in town town going against the Tennessee office that wasn't limited in week one but you know in terms of talent in receiving corps thing Jalen Ramsey should go out there and like I said before he's a beast the same time play within the system that doesn't always support his greatest talents which is press man but yeah he ball I ship titans are going to surprise the price and people I think they're actually halfway. Decent T I'm not so convinced of the Ramsey has big night but Jimmy you think Marcellus gets proven wrong tonight. Hail Hale Yeah do you first of all I could be wrong but I know you had a I had a cup of coffee in the NFL. So you know good Dan well you do not call out an. NFL cornerback shocked that you would have the nerve the devastating goal look at it man you from company just like your boy from Richard Sherman Richard Sherman. I would have thought for show. He taught you something better than that. I'm older than him though what happened when Michael Michael Crabtree put his mouth for richer term mediocre I remember love it. I'm GonNa tell you what if you don't remember wait till after the game tonight Ramsey getting interview as ruse. Oh Ooh don't you ever talk about me Jeez. Don't ask me said reporter. Did you get when you mess with me too dark alice was what do you call him. You Delo Legion of boom. He's going to what is L. O. V. I I will tell you right here. Thank you you ought to Kansas City chiefs taint him apology. How dare you put that bags do out into the airwaves? Tom About chief shouldn't sign Jalen Ramsey. He's just sitting there putting that out there just called you can second guess and his plane who came in Kansas City. I ain't got this excited about signing. A cornerback says my nephew got him excited about signing todd law was this is talking about J. J. radical prime attack dome. He's really gonNA swamp buster down. Need somebody up yeah. We Hope J. The Ramsey how I wanna say slump buster deals Beck you gotTA transition here. We got to give our approval rating. Oh our Marcella sit here. I just take this job performance. I will give him a twenty three smoke going everywhere with Kapernick with Jalen Allan Ramsay everywhere all time greatness. I'll give him an eleven happened happened when only made three pro bowls character. I'll give them a twenty two and authenticity. I'll give them a twenty three seventy nine almost go dale you Jimmy all-star all thing you know and I give him you know as often tissot. That's what I give him because he came up on he came up won't Jalen Ramsey bandwagon dame so jumped on the big baller brand band West. I noticed that he ain't been the scientists big baller went under Obama. I don't want to jump on this bandwagon.

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March 26  Hour 1  Best Bronco Logo | QBs In the NFL | Kelly Lyell

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March 26 Hour 1 Best Bronco Logo | QBs In the NFL | Kelly Lyell

"Good Thursday afternoon northern Colorado. This is the whole show powered by PD energy. I am Brady. Hull joined by producer. Extraordinaire Colefax a million colby. Jack Colfax don't like you don't like that one is that correct. It's okay one of the best. Jack is Kobe Jackson. I don't like that when you have one. I don't really really like being like cheese. You know as much as I like cheese. I don't like to be called cheese. Yeah that's a good point unless it's the big cheese. Well maybe may not start calling you the big cheese. Yeah maybe maybe we'll get that first text line three one nine nine six three one nine nine six. We do have a power to play sports. Poll question of the day and this came up. Because the rams changed their logo Eric Dickerson former hall of Famer or is a hall of Famer but former Ram himself bashing the team for changing up the logo and I agree I mean. It's I mean he was pretty rough he was pretty rough with the rams tweeted them and he he created his own version but ours is. What was your favorite version of the broncos logo? They haven't had that. I suppose not that many over the years but they there was one thousand nine hundred sixty one when it was like in Wyoming colors yellow and brown which two colors just man. They don't go well together. Although I like I actually liked that one. I have a hat with that Logo it's one of my favorite hats or the the nineteen sixty. Two version is football. Dude on a bucket Bronco. I don't like that one however I actually was gifted with a helmet like giant helmet for just decorative with that logo on it. And it's probably my favorite one but it's still kind of cool I like the old school moments and they. They did that for what seven years they had that one. And then there was the seventies version. Which is the de with the Bronco and then they basically edited that same version from ninety three to ninety six. Made it a little sharper and then ninety seven to present is the the mean look and Bronco. The current one that came out. That was cool. Cool I really liked that. Go to the whole show dot com to vote again. Our power play sports poll question of the day your favorite. Let's see let's see where the whole are on this one. Now Look at the ninety three to ninety six version or I don't know it depends. Yeah Ninety three to ninety six version has forty four percent of the whole against voting. Second is the mean looking Bronco. That's how that's how I describe. Colfax the nineteen sixty six yellow and brown dude riding a horse sixty to sixty nine football player riding a horse. Seventy to ninety two giant D with a Bronco Ninety six more detailed version of ninety seven. Seventy ninety two version or mean looking Bronco I I you know when the when the new logo came out. I said Thank Goodness. I'm saying hey the D. with the Bronco. That was the old school version. I mean my brother and my dad loved that version. That was theirs. But I didn't like it. I didn't like the look of it and then that new one came out and it's awesome. Now I find myself going the other way Colefax. I actually like the ninety three ninety six version. The Best of the logos is yours. Yours is the new one right. I think people are getting caught up in the Nostalgia. I Yeah I do. I'll admit it I do. I like the nuggets. Weird logo where they had. They actually had a minor and he's a little guy with a beard. I don't know how long they did that. But that's I was looking at like low some of the worst logos in Sports. And that's actually in the mix. I love it. I have a couple of t-shirts with that. I like the old school though. I do. A lot of fans hate the nineteen sixty sixty one version because it looks like Wyoming Cowboys logo or a Stephen would say the the the team the team up north. Okay Colefax we have a. We have a mission. There's no sports as usual. I mean that's breaking news right this weekend. We have a mission and I don't know you and I both are excited about it. I WanNa see it but I don't want to see it. It's tiger king. Joe Exotic that's on net flicks and I wanna see it. But I also think it's going to make me depressed so I'm a little scared. But apparently he was a country singer. He was an all around type of dude. He did everything he he's like a comic book character. Man Yeah exactly do you have. Do you have his song because we can play. I think it's important to play it fun to sweet as wine butter bad crazy or you're on the couch something wrong weightless young. What is going on? You can't sue. Oh he basically wrote a bunch of songs about tigers he had tigers and I think yes. Well yeah he's correct. He owned a zoo in Oklahoma. And he's he he bred tigers and had a bunch of them train them and tamed him. But apparently there's a bunch of other stuff going on like drugs or involved. Were hiring people to murder people. Man I mean. This story is is absolutely nuts. Get this now Colefax. Why WE'RE WATCHING IT? 'cause God do something right right. He is suing from prison. He suing from prison for ninety. Four million dollars. Oh so he didn't get. I thought yeah I know I get. I just watch the preview. I thought he was not on this Earth Anymore. But he is on this earth. He is just imprisoned. Okay I apparently this is like they're going to do like a follow up documentary this because there's so much stuff that's David even scratched. The surface of the Tiger King. Of what this dude did. But he Yeah he's suing everybody. Suing Net flicks. He soon he's suing people left and right Joe exotic or Joseph Moll Don Maldonado Maldonado. Yeah there you go tire. Cain launching a ninety four million dollar lawsuit from prison serving twenty two year twenty two year stint for a murder for hire plot against his longtime critic and rival animal rights activist Carol Baskin Seriously. It's like this story just the preview that I watched and I've been reading a little bit of it. I almost watched the last night with all the news coming up my wife and I really. Let's just let's watch something positive. Not I don't know if this is GonNa be depressing or what but we in watch it intriguing. Yet looks intriguing. It looks intriguing. Could end up bad. I think it isn't that bad. I think it ends up like out of control texters coming in Ken bone. What is this Kimba Holy Moly? What is that beat? You know? That's a bad bronco logo man. That's a that's a Bronco logo with a bag on its head Kim bone. It's not bad why that it's just an old one when they release that logo maybe and all the cartoon. Texter from the nine seven. Oh says he likes the the Denver the with gigantic D for The logo and says Tiger King is great. Okay texture we need. You need to give us a nickname. You have three minutes to give us a nickname otherwise Colefax. It'll probably end up being tiger king. It could be. It could be the JOE EXOTIC. It could be local tiger king. It couldn't go tiger king. No Co Tiger King. If you don't give us a nickname soon that's that's how it happens. Usually you base the nicknames off of what you what you text in unless you give your own nickname. That's the rule. That's we don't make them again. They were here when we got here. Written in stone. -scribed so texter. I do have a question is it. Is it visit depressing or is it wild? Okay so McLean. I watched the first episode yesterday. No spoilers I yeah is IT A. It's a series then. I thought it was just a single documentary but apparently it's apparently it's the series will McLennan. We can't spoil it for you because neither of US have watched. No but we're GONNA if it's a series that's going to be a commitment. I don't know I wanna be all in for tiger king over the weekend and because unlike most people we are essential we. We don't have the Time poll question. Are you essential or nonessential? I hate that like Oh oh. Media is apparently we have what three people here? And you're on the other side of the glass so you're quarantined over there. I'm Corentin over here and so we're we're six feet apart just so we are taking this seriously. We are and we have another guy. Michaels running around but we are practicing. Now we are. We cut our staff down. We're still providing our programs for you as best we can and we plan talk we have. We have sports talk about for years. Man I don't even know games to happen. We talk about Tiger King for one hour and then tiger king to for the second hour probably. It's funny man. I love Dan. Patrick I love the herd with Colin. Cowherd they're digging and they're doing fantastic but I. I love the fact that Dan Patrick in the day. And it's going all in on the meet Friday stuff with the songs those are. Those are amazing. I would challenge our whole against the do something like that but let's stick to. Let's stick the top tax Tuesday for now. Can't even read that. I knew I knew you guys would take the gross version of the poll question. How did I know that it had to? How did I know that the whole against would take one of the poke the poll question the question which logo you like and and and make it something gross but I knew it what am I? What am I saying McLean says? I'm out here delivering pizzas. Call me. Essential plane bring. I'm hungry. Hey you guys have updates. I'll give you shout outs. I'll give you. We have our businesses that sponsor the show and keep us running but feeling good today so as long as you don't compete with our friends but I'll give you shout local business local businesses scary time strange for sure. I'm driving to work this morning and I'm like I see two cops and again I just want to say I. I respect policemen like no other so I know this is strange and uncharted territory for them to drive. Abiam like am I gonNa get going to get pulled over you know and I have my paperwork now. Strange say that but we get like some. Cba stuff yeah Colorado Broadcasters Association stuff that we go I'm essential here but I mean honestly there there was quite a bit of people on the road now. I mean it's not like normal but there's a lot of businesses that are considered essential. Right now I mean I consider all of our local businesses essential and I really do. I'm not just saying that to be to be cheesy here but all right so you gotta give him the nickname then. Colfax okay. No Co Tiger King all right. Yeah all right. That's the rule that sounds about right. No Co Tiger King. We'll watch it. Apparently it's a series so I want to hear your thoughts Power Play Sports poll question of the day. What is your favorite version of the Broncos logo comment or go to the whole show dot com and vote lane says honestly I liked because I the I get the signify different times on this team. Too YOUNG FOR THE FIRST TO DIG. Them in throwback fashion. My favorite's probably one thousand nine hundred ninety six mostly because it looks a tad better. Most people would have no idea change odyssey. Honestly I had no idea changed until I looked it up this morning. 'cause they did they add they basically just made it sharper between the nineteen seventy right before and then they edit it into the early nineties but that you know the the new logo one they have won super bowls in so if you're if you're like You know you're one of those guys that's into that kind of thing. Oh well. This logo helped us win. Then there you go doug seventy three ninety-two Derek says before nineteen sixty. Oh I know what you're doing. That's not Nice. Kevin says seventy-nine Ninety two Tom Dot Com Shah. Ninety seven pulses ninety seven. Yeah Eric Dickerson puts kind of put the rams on blast I mean he. He got after it he He tweeted out to rams fans. I reviewed your comments regarding our new logos and sharing your disappointment. I'll be speaking with the rams on our behalf. Please like if you prefer the logo on the left and re tweet to vote for the logo on the right you should go check this out Colfax Eric Dickerson. The one on the right is actually a ram those are both rams. I guess did I see the right version. Isn't the rams new it's the L. A. With the Horn coming out of the area right. That's what I saw. But now there's another. We'll now dickerson's showing two versions. There's two rams has the the horn going around the area but it's actually on Aram Aram. The one on the right is pretty cool that he has. I don't mind on the left. I don't really either. The RAM head is there. You give me a RAM head. I don't WanNa see a lightning bolt. That's like half circle like that. Basically the chargers. Why is it that complicated seriously? I'm looking at I have this up. I have a bunch of different logos pulled up and I mean. Has Anybody go? Do yourself a favor today. Google the Boston Red Sox nineteen fifty to fifty nine logo. You will thank me later. Like the Lions back in the day. Man I get it fifties and sixties strange time to be alive like now. It's a lion just being a lion in football player right beside him. That's the lion's logo the jags they used to have the clock coming out instead of just the Jaguars face like when you start messing with logo. It's just got to be the face man. You gotTa have the face if you can't start. Adding clause in the broncos had that one weird version where it was actually the full Bronco. He's like twisting. And that was like an alternate bronco with this weird. Yeah had like the new mean head but then like the body awkward body twisting like a like a lion like a mere cat or something and it's like why why. What is what's happening. What's going on with that? Then the steelers in in one thousand nine to do their lowest steelers fifty seasons. But he's like there's a lot going on. It actually said steelers fifty seasons on their logo that year. We don't want to read. We WanNA see your logo. And that's it. I don't WanNa read words man. I ain't got time for that. First event is text line. Three one nine nine six three one nine nine six. We're talked to Kelly lyles today from Fort Collins Colorado. I believe I know. Obviously newspapers in the media essential as well. So we'll see what he's doing what he's up to. And how does this affect Ceus you? I mean coaches that are with the current program. It certainly has the have the upper hand. They always have the upper hand. But man if you're new to a new program new to a city when we had when we had coach. Adagio on one of the things we mentioned before he left was trying all these restaurants. And now you can order which is great like from the Windsor Mill Tavern. But now you gotTA. It's a completely different experience which I do encourage you to take advantage of that completely. Different experience but man when we're able to get out. Let's fill some restaurants up man twenty two minutes after the hour. We'll take a quick break when we come back. I have a couple of questions. I have some fun. Topics is this current roster for the Nuggets. His group potential to be the best roster we've ever seen for the Denver Nuggets that rivals ninety seven or nineteen. Seventy six nuggets. Eighty four nuggets. The eighty-seven Nuggets Fat Leever and Michael Adams was on that group. Obviously Alex English. Let's talk about that too. For the meantime go to our poll question power play sports poll question today at the whole show dot com. What's your favorite version of the broncos logo? We'LL BE RIGHT BACK. You're listening to the hall's show powered by PDC energy and thirteen ten KFI. Brady will be back after the break. Catcher taste study right with up-to-date news weather and sports mornings with Gail six. Am to nine. Am Weekdays on Thirteen Ten K. K? Hey Nuggets Andrew's coach phoned up the Denver Nuggets. And you're listening to the whole show thirteen ten K S K quarterback show Kim bones on fire. Today like no logo is as creative as the Browns logo. The browse can't even get that right. It helmets orange. I never understood. The browns like okay so in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine sixty nine. They had like a side logo. I Dunno Keebler Elf man. It was just an Elf. So I'm pretty sure after that. The logo creators for the BROWNS ARE LIKE I. I don't know apparently the didn't go over very well because it doesn't make any sense. It's a football playing. Yeah you see it. And so they're like let's just stick to a color consistent with AC. What is also who says. That's like our logo though. The Cleveland Brown Elf Magic. So then they're like let's just make our. Let's just make our logo or a color okay. We're the BROWNS. What color should we have? I don't know maybe like orange. Okay Yeah I liked that. It makes save just been promoted. You're now the president of the browns. Like serious if you tell somebody that hey what? Color the Browns Brown and their their dog right. It's supposed to be adults are mascot. It's actually yeah it's weird. I don't like teams. That have like eight different mascots like have different different different things you know like. I don't. I'm not into that first. Event IS TEXT. Line three nine six. So what were you telling me about the tiger king with the I was just asking all so confused because the confusing thing the song that we played earlier about. He's singing songs about feeding our about. Someone's wife feeding her dead husband to tiger right and so that happened. Relay was this. Just don't know I think so dude. I think this story is nuts. Like drugs are involved. We're feeding people to Tigers. Were making country music video. And he's like got guns all over the place and gun toting dude all about tigers and singing songs about tigers. I mean it's it. Sounds like somebody was very stoned and then wrote a movie and that but this is real. This happened and it came out at the right time to because nobody knows. What the Hell's going on anymore? So we're like we'll just watch tiger king man. I I I suck 'cause I like watch. I like to watch animal planet stuff. I'm a nerd like that. So I'm thinking okay. This is like a tiger documentary. This'll be oh my gosh. This is not that. So here's what we're going to start doing something now. Colfax for at least the next two weeks three weeks. Now what Hogan's we already know reviewing first so next Friday But we're GONNA do like we'll do a movie review or TV show review or something on Fridays. You know sitting by the fire with braiding Colfax as we review a movies that the paints a weird picture that you and I are just hanging out by the fire but six feet apart six of course so holy give us suggestions the honestly the more terrible they are maybe the better like I wanna see really bad movies. That are so bad. They're good. That's not watch really bad movie. I would like to be entertained on some level so as long as they're like under an hour and a half you. Could you could put forward a little bit. Yeah we'll give you our full review actually real suggestions to give its good. Let us know. We want to review that. Hey this time and support support businesses. That support the whole show or thirteen ten. Kfi A local businessman as long as your local year winner. My book seriously. Because that's so important right now. My wife and I are GONNA order out from Windsor Mill Tavern a couple of times this weekend. So we're looking forward to that. Go to their website. 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Colorado's home for the best high school coverage. I this is Jesse Kurtz executive producer and lead anchor the mountain West Network and you're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten. Kfi thirty seven minutes after the hour. Bogus back to the whole show powered by energy we are as as you know we We have short small staff here the next couple of weeks. We are taking this seriously. Colefax on the other side of the glass six feet away and we have glass between us by the way and I'm going out that door you're going to go out the door and we'll never say goodbye. We won't even say anything. Yeah you got the LYSOL. You've got all that stuff disinfect. Yeah strange times everybody. No doubt about it heart goes out to anybody you know these are these are tough times definitely tough times but media outlets continuing on one of those great great writers throughout northern Colorado Kelly Lyle from the Fort Collins Colorado and Kelly. How are you my friend doing okay? How you doin. We're hanging in there man every day. It's a brand new update every day. We're living our life a little bit differently than the last yeah. I'm finding that out. I go to write a story one day and I'm talking to people and then they decide. Let's let's hold it for a day and then it's completely irrelevant by the next day. So I I was in the middle of one writing about people golfing During the outbreak and now some of the golf courses that had remained opener. All closing. Saying the governor's order doesn't allow it but there's a lot of ambiguity to that so they have city attorneys and people trying to reach out to county health departments and get clarification and different counties or telling them different things apparently so It's kind of interesting. I just talked to. Somebody actually outed highland hills pro out there and he said. Yeah. The governor's order. We shut down loveline courses. We're going to stay open today. And then try to get. Try to get more clarity as to whether they can stay open again tomorrow by the end of the day today they haven't gotten back to me yet Other people told me. Yeah those shutting down after today private courses summer somewhere open. I was out you know. I talked to golfers at Highland Meadows yesterday From my six feet plus away photographer and I kept our social distance from each other as well as from the From the golfers we were chatting with and I went over and talked with you. What the old course loveland and people thought it was a great way to get out and recreate during this time but There's a lot of questions about whether or not it's acceptable. The courses were doing their best. But to keep you know social distancing in place reducing tee times to spread groups out further removing. Keep flag sticks in remove rakes. Nobody touches rakes. Just smooth it with your foot. Let the ground screwed. Take care of it overnight for the next day that kind of stuff who knows exactly Kelly and I know obviously we typically talk sports one hundred percent on this program. But I wanted to ask you are you so again. We're hearing you know the two. It's about a two and a half week thing here. Statewide Larimer county issuing yesterday before governor. Police has had his press conference that we would be going into April April seventeenth. I believe do you. Are you hearing anything like is that a is that GonNa Change or as Larimer County GonNa stick with their initial plan? Well I unfortunately I think we're all GonNa get these extended. I think April eleventh was Kinda and the governor himself at his news conference. I think suggested that was almost sort of a best case. Let's try two weeks and see what happens and see what the numbers look like He did he was asked. Could it be sooner? He said I hope. I hope that by some miracle. It is sooner but realistically that was kind of their their best case. I think most likely we're gonNA like so many of these other things. We're going to do this and see it extended For two reasons one is where they are having it is slowly apparently potentially starting to have an impact although our testing is so behind that nobody knows for certain you know the test numbers and the positive cases we see those numbers every day but the truth is in Colorado. At least. We're only testing the very very ill. And the almost the people were almost the medical professionals are fairly certain habit and yet only ten percent of them are testing positive. The problem is of every body tested nationwide thirty percent of the people that have been tested. Positive have shown zero symptoms including Donovan. Mitchell you know Utah Jazz player the Second Utah Jazz player to come down with it. And that's I think the biggest concern is that we any of US could be carrying it may be carrying and not even an have zero way to know it because we may never get the symptoms ourselves. And that's that's the strange part about it right again. You you know you hear these stories all over the place and you're hearing more and more people like Donovan. Mitchell like you just said you know did didn't even really show any of those symptoms feel absolutely fine. So it's certainly certainly a new a new way of life for Saul and keeping update with with local media so important. It's important now more than ever. Yeah it really is. I mean just everything. That's going on again. I you know you talk to people and things are changing so rapidly and what we know about it is changing. Hopefully we're learning more about it every day and about what we can do when But Yeah I mean I. I can't get various people to talk to me about college sports and all because nobody really wants to. Nobody wants to know. Nobody knows what's going on you know does Colorado State. They technically can still have seven more spring football practices under NCAA rules. But I don't think anybody really expects that they're ever going to be able to have those You know our athletes practicing. Well they're not supposed to be at least not together But you know strength coaches. Apparently at least at many schools are able to send out workouts and for athletes do on their own at home or whatever. There's there's so many things like that that are happening in high school high school. Sports hasn't officially called up at spring season yet They have a make a decision. You know coming up here that they say they'll make another decision but at this point they're still hoping to maybe get a short season in and get kids back in school buildings before the year's over but you know that seems less likely every passing day but who knows. Maybe maybe it'll happen. Kelly. Do you see a situation where okay we get past the spring and I know there's a lot more red tape to get through. When you're talking about chassis you're about perhaps but do you see a scenario where we're we kids. That are graduating. We're GONNA we're GonNa let him do a season track baseball. You name it in. Throughout the summer months I think Colorado would ever do that There are some states. I mean apparently does it plays high school baseball season in the summer Because of weather concerns another thing so or at least they did last time. I checked several years back I don't see that likely to happen in Colorado. I think it's too complicated You've got most of if any of those athletes have signed with colleges. A lot of those colleges will see with the current situation but normally a lot of those universities pay for summer school scholarships they want you on campus Colorado State football players. They want him on campus by June first to be more dissipating in Colorado state. Football's off season workouts. Summer workout. So they're not gonNA WANNA kid still running for his track team in Denver in July You know so I don't. I don't think that can happen again. Things change so rapidly. Who knows I mean what? Five days ago our governor said he would he would would not issue a stay at home order. He thought that was not a good thing. And then yesterday he did it because that's what the experts told them needed to be done. Yeah no it's it's like you said to start. It's a rapidly changing. How about on the The college side of things. Obviously you hear you hear a news story everyday. You hear a rumor every day. What does it look like looking for potential? Start date with when it comes to to college football because obviously this spring for Ceus you got cut short. Some didn't even get into it yet and that's going to change a lot of things going forward because you know spring. Spring Ball is pretty essential for a lot of these teams as they're building on for the next season. Yeah I think it varies I mean I. I heard at least one coach said the other day. If you can't get your team ready thirty days you shouldn't be coaching It's funny that here. A college football coach say that because when the NCAA asked him they talk about. They need all summer and contact with their athletes. They need unlimited spring practices. And everything else. So it you know when they're trying to get the regulations out there. They need every single day year round to get their team ready but when push comes to shove one of them's like why you shouldn't be coaching I forget which college code set but it was like if you can't get your team ready for a season in thirty days. You should not be coaching. I I think that is going to be the general approach taken throughout the country is going to be like you know what maybe they'll add a week to fall camp or maybe they'll be a little bit more liberal if things do you know if if we pass this and they're able to get people on campus you know during the summer maybe they'll they'll adjust some rolls to where we're you know instead of coaches can have be with them for you know two hours a week over the summer or whatever they might say for. You know two hours three days a week over the summer they can be doing some workouts without pads and coaches president. They make some modifications like. I don't think anybody knows. I don't even know if they're at the point. Where some of those proposals have even been discussed yet. Because the minute you start putting that plan in place everything changes again. I understand. There's a lot of planning going on for different scenarios but but I don't know how many different scenarios you can. You can count on because obviously not only do we not really know how the virus is spreading but we also know that it's hitting impacting different communities harder than others right now and we don't know long term what that is or at least some areas are testing more people. Maybe it's impacting everybody. The same and we're just testing in some places like Colorado that remains to be seen as well. No you're right. It's it's hard to make a plan when you set dates times up and then suddenly the next day it changes so everybody is in like the most. This has been like the the most severe. Wait and see mode. I think any of have ever witnessed before obviously so strange times indeed Kelly. What are you putting together for us? The next couple of weeks I know again. I know we're all we're all getting creative with our content to so what can we check out the Colorado well working on different things? I exchange voice voice. Cats yesterday Through whatsapp with Mustafa Hassan the former Colorado state shot put he was an NCAA indoor champion ninety seven. He had he had just qualified a month ago for the Olympics He had met the Olympic qualifying. Standard and immediate wasn't even going to enter because he was in the middle of a heavy weight training session and thought. Well I'm not going to be arrested and he's still coached by Bryan Berard. Colorado state's coach and Brian said well. I WanNa see where you're at anyway. Let's go give it a whirl and he ended up Pat. He ended up going out and winning the meat and surpassing the Olympic qualifying standard. It's actually I think currently when I looked yesterday the fifth or sixth best throwing the world this year Now granted a lot of meats have been called up already but he was. You know talked to him a little bit about. Just the first the excitement finally reaching that goal that you've been striving out for so long and then the disappointment of but you may not get to actually compete for another year or so what now And so I'm working on a story on that I know Kevin lyles talked to a couple Talk to at least local athlete. Who was an Olympic hopeful was qualified for the Olympic? Swim trials and Kind of what you know. Kind of the disappointment of that you know is it on. Hold as you know where that stands so Kevin and I are kind of jointly putting together a thing at least on some local Olympic hopefuls. As to where those things may stand and And then we're both breaking news reporters now to helping with other things doing other things as need to be done. So we appreciate Both of you guys obviously great friends of the station and and the Colorado and in general so Kelly keep up the great work my friend and stay safe. Alright you to take care of him. Kelly Lyle from Fort Collins Colorado and they're all we're all kind of changing some of the things that we do you know throughout throughout the day. Hey you know. I'll I'll give shout outs to WANNA while Romi over at auto body text in Sent he's going to send some info on out to assume for their ozone machine and how they sanitized disinfect. Vehicles homes and offices without with their hospital grade micro brand disinfectant. So again. That's that's that's kind of a cool thing to I was talking to somebody the other day that knew somebody weeks ago. That was Called in sick and they were thinking. Oh we got to disinfect. The vehicle that he was driving around the work vehicle so our CIO body might be somebody to consider looking at their so thanks for that appreciate appreciate the extent first advantage text line three one nine nine six our power to play sports poll question of the day. What's your favorite version of the Denver? 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Best Of (Eric Dickerson on Brady's career longevity, Stafford/Goff, Brady/Belichick)

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Best Of (Eric Dickerson on Brady's career longevity, Stafford/Goff, Brady/Belichick)

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Qb has been on the record saying he wants to play till age forty five but yesterday. He said he would definitely consider playing past that point. We're now joined by hall of famer favorite fox. Nfl analyst. eric dickerson eric. It is great to see you. And unfortunately i'm not gonna ever let you forget this because you have all brady was before those comments were made but is he delusional for wanting to play three more years. We'll ask still say this old man football and all of us know that on the pound with speech out about that but you know what. He's pleased football. Anything as deep as a quarterback. Is this talkative position than any decision on the field. You can't into quarterback is bless. You can't hit tom. Brady's no doubt about that but the game has changed so much. I mean but i think the great thing about tom brady is is that he can read a defense so fast. I mean he's like having an office coordinator on the field Players know what's going on on the field and that gathered noticed the on on the field given so many more weapons he has mike evans. Yes quiz got Net i mean so they give them a lot of weapons. I gotta get. Tom brady credit for this. He sacrificed his own. Hey you know to have players around can pretty much whole career especially when it came to the. Tom brady that we know but for sure. I think that he can play these. But i'll say it again. The position that he played quarterback most big inequality. Ask my friend riding. eat this last week. Usually though the ball sixty he a yeah the that arm is the arm strength when it comes down to you know in a guinea. Take a hit until you get on. That much is operatives. You'll be able to grow football sixty five years old. That's just the. Ssi quarterbacks are had to run never been mobile so we know that but because as office coordinator field most editing by bra. I'll say that to say this is still obama. Football playing great football so eric. When i watched. Tom say this live yesterday i told shannon it made me laugh out loud at shannon. But also thought of you eric dickerson. Because both you guys are in the pro football hall of fame. And i think it eats at you that this guy is still going strong as in the super bowl at forty three. And he's talking about. Hey go to forty six or forty seven and it it it eats at you because it just shattering the mold. It's it's like it's hard to make peace with it because you guys were forced to s- new or thirty five. How old were you eric when you add to stop believable because your position took that out of you eight it still takes it out today because you're the healthiest guy right now. Because you have your back issues and it all came from. You died for the cause when you play okay. So that's why i think about you guys. I hurt for you guys but but this guy is is a one and only because he says i'm all in. He doesn't really like to do anything else. Outside of his family except szeswith football like shannon says eric. He just got sick and tired of the meetings the drudgery of it getting ready mentally for every game this guy's still on fire with it and i've never seen anything like it and i'm not sure we're gonna ever see in quite like it again. I'm not sure was give ossetia's think about this. You imagine tom brady told you he wants to play. He's forty five or six thirty three years old said that like all that sounds crazy. They called him now. He's twenty three. He's talking about banda forty back. What is it feasible. I mean it would be like if any other player said that you know. I wanna play job. Forty five as twenty season. I don't believe that long in all so he. Tom raised there and he's doing. So that's what makes it so great. Thank you know like. I said you know these bucket in the super bowl then. I don't think anybody thought. I think year we did not play good football. Because he's tom brady. But i didn't bake in super bowl. Wait somebody on undisputed thought that but go ahead. that's just obvious. Tom brady. stan. I mean if you look at it you you right eighty but if you look at it even if tom brady has said this at thirty seven air rodgers thirty seven can you imagine just said. I'm gonna play till i'm forty five. That's eight years with like two years from now. That's thieves realistic. 'cause we all intents and purposes i think there's a ninety five percent chance that he comes back and play next year so that way less something cataclysmic happen hopefully does it. He's gonna have one more. But the say forty five when you're in your mid thirties. That's a whole different game. You realize his father about five years ago was quoted. I think in the new york times as saying they're going to have to put a straight jacket on my son and dragged him off the field to make him stop us. Okay yeah he not walking away skill okay but the point is right now. He doesn't need to think about walking away. Because i personally i don't know about you but i don't see decline. I don't see skills declining. I see operating at just as high level as the ever has delivered normal. Pre lebron tweeted. I won't play. I'm gonna jump until the wheels fall of just like tom brady. Go play football to the wheels fall. And that's what's going to happen. You have to drag libra. they're gonna have to dry. Tom brady because now he doesn't say well me. And my family. My wife and i will sit down and discuss it. He says i'll know okay. Jigsville is basically giving up that fight. She said you know what. I'm gonna fight about something else. Maybe we go on a couple of extra vacation offseason. No shame in the way or formed this year because he threw forty touchdowns. And he's looking around at a young. Mike evans a young chris. Godwin and a very young scotty miller. I know gronk is getting to the end of the line but camera bracelet. Pretty good and oj. Howard is gonna come back so is not set up. Well if you see what he did skip. They got later in new england. He transitioned away from being not as so. He's been a little bit more time with his family. So that was the give and take you ask. Okay you wanna come back and play. Well i'm gonna need more time on vacation with the family talk. I'm sure he'll pass. Aba angle is going to be interesting to see what kobe protocols high. It goes moving. But there's a good chance he's going to be a monaco or somewhere else ovation. he will be eric. Do you see any decline in brady scales. Now i really. Don't i mean really i mean you ball. It's like he did five years ago. I mean he's twenties assured. But i mean like i said earlier this year. He's like avenue in office coordinator on feel you need that. Needs to be in his ear to tell you what to do these that guy. He knows he knows he sees a defense in our job. Listening right now kind of guys about seed right away. That's the great thing about tom. Brady and a big both of us gonna tested you know. Football is is really like a kiss for it really is a game. You wanna play that game as long as you can't. You can plan la la but why stop playing. I guarantee you. Tom brady lost football. I mean he loves just as much as he did today. He started that his back in the super bowl. Anyway been so many tab. I mean why would he want stop. I mean we want to stop at this year super bowl do it again. I think the thing that is going to be hard to see tom's declining. Because he has such a plethora of tallow around him. Eds have been the quivalent of you being thirty three and you had that young. Rams offensive live blog. Report you you might. You might want to keep playing thirty thirty five thirty six when they opened the whole life back but like you said but we play different positions. We play it with a lot more physical. We just couldn't go down you thought about. We got company here. We just couldn't follow on the ground. We had to try to run through that could slide. You play any position other the quarterback all right so eric. Speaking of brady there are three and a half point underdog to kansas city. Obviously the reigning champ. What shot do you give brady in the bucks to win this game. Sunday evening omen. I'd give him Because of the got. Tom brady because of him town brady makes everyone play that much better. He makes you play at a high level when when when he comes on. The field gathered. Never living with. Tom brady at seeing tom brady business. You know sought to talk everybody. How brave they will kiss and field playing with him. They don't wanna let tom brady down like a tom. Brady's year he's been with ten super bowl. I won't play great in our about. She's she has so much so many weapons. I mean they have so much speed on football team but you know what that's why we play the game you know you can't say what you're gonna win. Assure this team assured so. I'd give Will you might take the okay. i'm gonna go to. Kansas city chiefs. I just thought they have the cuban many weapons that they got to too much going on aware over. That go who is at jones is his issues chinese. An okay okay. So you're going. High score medium score is going to be hostile game. I think it'd be like thirty. Three thirty five thirty three thirty something like that. I think it's going to be awesome storms for that very often that you beat the kansas city chiefs scoring fewer than thirty points. You normally have to get to that number. The thing. that concerns me is that they're going to be. kansas city. is going to be without three starting into linemen in tackles and we saw the havoc that jp re on air roger than the championship game. That's going to be the key if they compressor him like they did aaron rodgers. it makes kansas city job that much tougher. When even if you do pressure him you still got to hold mahomes off. Because he's so good at throwing off his back foot. He has so much arm strength that he can get the ball even when you're dragging him down so i believe it's going to be it if they don't pressure i don't see how they beat him. I don't believe. I don't believe tablet win. Aback and game when shootout thirty five. Thirty eight forty one thirty eight. I don't believe tamika when that type of game. But if they can get pressure on him and neutralized him in the ribs because that's what they did better than any team in the playoff when tv got into the red zone. They made you settle for field goals. They didn't give touchdowns. And i do remind you that. The bucks took down aaron rodgers. Five times with only four rush. Okay so if you can do that to mahomes if they can take him down five times at least get to him in rough him up. They could hang in the game. They don't have the weapons that kansas city. They do not as over. But the question i wanna see. I wanna know what to ask for tyreek. I want to because he. He's been hot in the playoffs and he had he had missed a beat. This there's only. One answer is j. p. p. in check it because they don't have a corner who can run with them though they don't have a safety they have been tortuga l- in the secondary too often this year's obviously tyreek at two hundred and three receiving yards in the first quarter skilled when they don't generate pressure. Yeah when they can get pressure. It makes the job. They pollute those play with a lot. More confidence it's going to be interested because we saw how they did drew brees. 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While the rams are just two years removed from making the super bowl jared goff and are hoping they can give back next season after agreeing to trade off to the lions stafford. Stafford has never won a playoff game as twelve year career with detroit but his arm taylor has always been well respected around the league so la figured it was worth parting ways with. Multiple draft picks to get him rams legend. Eric dickerson is still with us. So eric in your opinion will stafford be worth the price. The rams had to pay just to get him. I wanna believe so. I like matt. Steigenga liked the in detroit. I just thought he was in a bad situation for a long time. I mean i think people say gonna playoff game. Two games he won. But you gotta look way was using detroit. I mean i always think about detroit. Mile nineteen ninety-three Got situation starting players situation. That drafted into is not there. All it can make a break in mass dacca's case he was unfortunate enough to be drafted by the detroit. Lions bled nokia. Think about his way receiver. I think should get out. In calvin johnson retired. Let's say they're not about winning. Get bear santa's and same thing. I mean so in adult is matt tackles fall but i really believe that a missing lenient that that we need. I mean Agree great defense this year. And i think the the quarterback play was was not up to. I think sean. Mcvay becca los angeles expected. Because you know you want your guy play will then. I wanted to jeered play well with the last two years. This is be honest. he hasn't played well. And you. can you know thirty five million dollars a year. You wanna you want better playoff Quarterback and i think it will be no it was it was running back accuview. If you're in that kind of money he's expect better play out. But i really believe that matt stafford is missing season. You know sometimes you look at a football team and you would've What do they do pieces. Three business. I think us by looking at the rams. I think mr pieces of data speed receiver anna real todd nice quarterback in i like the trade on a bid when you look give it a draft picks and all that myself the rams traded me they got a player i mean. They got three three nine. Three hundred choosing to blair's well. You know blair who didn't pan out. I mean i think one of the best thing that happen for the rabbis that he must have been pan. Hobbies dallas kabul trade. You know when when they traded herschel they they they drafted they got rape players so it depends on how you draft number one draft picks. They don't mean nothing. Unless you kick the right guy you can get you can get you get a guy that fourth five six five. You know. That can do the same thing. I mean or anybody. Tom brady hundred rapid. You know antonio brown six hundred draft a lot te'o third grab is. It's a lot of claimed that maybe he looked all these draft picks and draft picks on me nothing. Sometimes people picking like. What are you looking at so for me. I bet he's mississippi's agri of matthew. Stafford is an upgrade over. Jared goff but that was a steep price to pay for god. It's going to be thirty three and although thirty three now thirty. Three the new twenty eight with a quarterback it used to be the quarterback. Got to be thirty kill you. Like he'll bars have idiots on a couple of years you'll be out of the league but although he hasn't missed a lot of gains over the last few years he has been battered broken bone in his back. He had real college thumb damage. Andrew fingers separated shoulder dislocated per. Tell me and the biggest thing was the biggest indictment that you can get against is when your head coach says we need better play at a particular position. He's talking to you. He didn't say we need better. Play out of office ask you say. We need better plan to quarterback position less need. The general manager says he's out quarterback right. Now you get one hundred thirty million dollars. He should be your quarterback for the foreseeable future. But that's not what they said it when you start hearing the head coach and you start hearing the general manager who's lonsdale put fully when they start talking about this new gonna be a maritime jared ross today so look it's a steep price the only thing that concerns me about mass effort that he hadn't beaten good teams. Sometimes if you do pay many winter india and it was about the move bill by the levy but a man with that dude so if you do you to. Somebody who good teams tended fifty nine against team. That's made the playoffs and he's three. They had a good situation with jim. Call where they might have been headed in the right direction from matt patricia. If he would have got the detroit the one ford trucks. So what was the last word you said. Detroit detroit. Detroit detroit detroit. Stuck in detroit barry. Sanders wanted out of detroit so he prematurely said deuces. I'm gonna. I'm still shocked that he'd left as quickly as he left. The mega draw may ten years. Made it okay. So eric i gave this trade an a plus for the rams ambassador shannon gave it a c. Because he thought you still gave up an awful lot and he's worried about matthew stafford durability ford but is bruce arians said the other day he's tough as nails and his team knows he's tough as nails and he will play through all that junk that he's been through he's been through a whole bunch of junk will it be cumulative will it start to weigh him down where he starts to regress in decline and skills. I don't see it because he's still early thirties and he's going to have a rebirth in. La and. it's just like you talked about tom. And tampa the weather's to the weather is so good here. It feels so healthy here. I think his body will feel a lot healthier here than up in motor city. You mentioned he has enough line here. He does that that is definitely established. Play one hundred. Six straight games again broke but broken bone is back still wanted to play. He wanted to amend it. also i think they can open his playbook up really. Oh you will have to worry about. Gotta i gotta trim it down. I came t difficult. I mean it's just like tom brady. It's gonna be like having offense coordinator on the field. I'll have to have in my ear. I see it right away. I see what you see. I think that's the big thing about you know we haven't had that. We had that it might now say it's a win. A look Aaron rodgers get a million dollars dollars dollars getting He's he's he's still be a euro that defense Stay together forever. So you got to do this right now. I'd i'd say i'd like the trade. I like matt stafford as a player. And i'll say this. I believe assured before he leaves a letter. I think he'll get super bowl here in los angeles in los angeles's like he eating the thing that was given i was talking about yesterday. You got less need mcvay. We play poker. They show of all the. Hey how you so. You don't really know where they just trying to blow up you up here. But they only. They went all jay golf. They would all they don't talk early. Go all the dollars. Go know jalen ramsey. They go only and they're like we're not worried about two thousand and twenty four. We're worried about twenty twenty one and this gives us an opportunity to compete in yesterday. I think it parks put them into third best in the nfc green bay tampa and the ram therm best. The represent the nfc up the super bowl. So that just goes to show you that. A lot of people think this is as substantial upgrade. Matthew stafford over jared goff. Well one thing you know that series because they went out to aaron rodgers also called green bay about aaron rodgers head. You know that. When i'm not trading shawn watson you know they wanted number two number one. It went to number twos two defensive player too bad so they want air down and jalen are that that's never happened. Okay so eric look to the north your archrival. In division san francisco is still stuck with their version of jared goff. Who is jimmy garoppolo. Guess do you anticipate that. They will fight fire with fire by going into the quarterback market. And going after sean navy we heard yesterday a kirk cousins. What what's your gut on it up. They will have to be like us you know. They're they're missing that piece. They have great defense. They can run the football Make big football show. You know skip you is this. It's on a tablet. Only have a certain amount of time you can. You can win is. It's not like the old days when we played key players forever. You know as you might have to three years three years back sure. May that's a quarterback so sharply san francisco would go try to get them a top notch going back. I hope they don't get the johnson soap relented Build that so. Would i be. I don't think san francisco giving up. Nick both arms data fred warner. So you think you'll get that it will happen okay. But i'll love kirk cousins. Because his father was the one who pushed draft kirk cousins and liked him even more than they are working with. The just play. Gary kubiak. Gary kubiak outfit. He learned on the couch. Shanahan which is the with coast. Okay and so they could cow work. Miracles with kirk cousins. Absolutely he just threw three touchdown. This just give me a thirty three cents like din peak levin playoff game last year at new orleans. I still don't love him with the chips. Pushed into the middle jimmy. I'll go with especially with jimmy. Keep dizzy q against kirk cousins. He doesn't miss start. The thing is deputy canes day out these up. I mean i understand. Injured are part of the game in the acl. We get with a high ankle sprain. It's always something if i can't keep you on the field. I mean braun. Pay you twenty five twenty eight million dollars. I need on the field and you're not on the field you're not helping the cause So what do you think miss east where. I definitely thought the quarterback departure time jerry. Goff put the ball in harm's way because he really tried to give the game away to tampa. You had that gave me control. And he threw two hobbled interceptions that lead tampa get into the ballgame game. I can see a speed receiver. You probably should've kept brandin cooks. Because he was a guy that could take the top off the cover the coverage right. Now you got a lotta guys as you office. Basically like the steelers allow you a lotta jeff's we've just quit gain matthew stafford stress to deepens. He's going to push the ball down the field. He can push it down the field with a greater consistency and accuracy than jared goff I agree we speed receive. I mean i know in detroit have. Can't kenny golladay. I mean i conceal johnny when you deal with free agent deal. Because he's like they've got a beta bachar. Yes we need. We need one guy. So eric i want to congratulate you because now you are light years ahead of my cowboys. That you've got matthew stafford. Happy days are here again in los angeles dallas party meal. Now get more to give me a bay to the more nice band advertise it really say. This is the deal okay. That's interesting any. We appreciate your time. All eyes will be on the rams of course and matt stafford next season looking forward to see. Hey undisputed listeners. It's charlotte wilder here to tell you about my new podcast. With marc titus called the people sports podcast it comes out every thursday and mark and i take one of the big stories of the week and then we go off on tangents. You never saw coming. This might mean that we start talking about the dodgers winning the world series and end up wondering if knicks fans deserve happiness or begin with lebron's greatness and end up drafting ultimate beer league softball team made up of old athletes whatever. It is the only rule of the shows that it has to be fun and funny because these days we could all use as many laps as can get so. Check it out wherever you get your podcasts. And come down weird sports rabbit holes with us. We can't wait to have radius preparing for his tad super bowl but his first since leaving new england this past off season when asked about his relationship with former coach. Bill bella check brady said quote. I have a great relationship with him. I'm just incredibly grateful for what he's men in my life. As a coach he was everything you could ask for as a player shannon. Are you surprised by these from tom. Brady know the one thing that tom brady knows. Having been in this position so many times before is that with all media even though it's not like it would normally with their on this virtual call in the last thing he wants to do to make it about something other than the game itself agree knows anything that he says about coach. Check now all of a sudden that trump's the super bowl that trump's his preparation for the super bowl so for me he's like we had a great relationship. They had a great player coach relationship. That would let me take their back. They had a great worker relationship. That's the extent of their relationship. And i don't have a problem with that but this notion that are we will cool. Because that's not what the report that we got out of coming out of there from time to time in that. He wondered why he didn't have a better relationship other than player. Coach relationship with coach belichick. So tara brady tom. Brady is the master of moving his mouth and saying absolutely nothing we. We've come to expect from him. So i didn't expect him to give. It wouldn't be bulletin board. But i didn't expect him to give any fodder to anything that all of a sudden. Tom brady if he was okay. He knows anything that he says. Other than we had a great working relationship with going to be the news of the super bowl. Yep and now all of a sudden. We're not talking about kansas city tampa. We're talking about tom. Brady's relationship with coach belichick. Quick aside. Before i unleash on this topic. You use the word trump lower case t has in tops this as a synonym for tops. And i want to use on the show. And i just bite my lip because now that word has such a negative connotation people what did you say trump's the that right so when you said it i was like oh woo but it still. The word works right with the lower case by case. I believe that. Tom believes everything he said. Yesterday about bill belichick. He's not just he's. He's not telling you the rest of the story because i do he. He is com- completely. He says incredible coach mentor and that he's incredibly grateful for everything he learned from bill. Bill is he's smart he gets it. He was blessed to be able to learn under him for a couple of years until bell check started to great on it just the way he grates on everybody else and remember. Matthew stafford reportedly said. There's only one place i won't go right and it's that place because for nineteen years. It feels to me like tom brady had to win. In spite of bill bell check. he benefited obviously. You talked about from the defenses that have been routinely top ten sometimes top five. He definitely benefited from a masterpiece of a master plan against the greatest show on turf in the first super bowl. So i'm going to give you that one. But in general brady spent nine thousand nine years having to be the good cop in the locker room. Saying it's okay. Swallow it just ignore it. It's just the way he is because belshazzar can be just an incredibly sour tyrant dictatorial and he was getting away with being in an old school coach in a new era roman shannon. Sharps going to say no to that because he was winning. Skip it is hard people. Don't understand yeah you can love your job. Tom brady love this job. But that'll necessarily mean. I got little balls because he makes my job. I love the job. But i just hate seeing you while all the job. That is correct and this. I think the biggest thing is is that tom brady says yes. I'm grateful coach belichick but he sure to be grateful for tom. Brady and i don't think that gets enough. He's this old toy. He did this time. He did that for tom. What the hell do for hill do you know what he was in cleveland before me. Do you know what he was in new england before me. So how about you. Keep talking about what he did for me. What the hell do for him. Yep okay so. Tom said i have a great relationship with him. I'm here the you there. I'm not going that far. If they happen to run into each other public would would. They shake hands. Shake even give a quick little hug. You do with coach linda. Ozzy you seem okay because this this whole week for tom brady is about fell. Check deep down. He is driven to show that he was wrong. Bush tom out. We got a great relationship. Our relationship so great. I'm here he's not you're right. I couldn't play anymore a completely. You know you had all these shopping. Put a grow through a rethought. Msci of months. I was look like i was looking so brady's game plan going into every super bowl is to try to say as little as possible. Yes don't distract from the team. Goal is all about the team goal and all that matters is winning the super bowl because if if you win it it speaks for itself. He doesn't need to rub it in. He doesn't need to take his verbal pound of flesh check during the week or after the game sports might be the only relation only spores might be the only time that people ask you. What's your relationship like with your ex. Yeah but what's your religion. We broke up the relationship like we broke up. So i have argued with you for four years in the show going on five. That brady was seventy five percent of the reason for the dynasties. I'm now starting to think it was more like eighty or eighty one hundred percent. He went through every night. That i might have at nine ten and i think it's worth listening one more time to danny amendola yesterday on first things first ahead of obviously undisputed because he unloaded on belichick. If we could hear it. Do you think it's going to be harder for ballot check. Get them to buy in win. Tom's not there and they haven't all experienced the deep playoff runs. Well first things first and when you see patriot way in depth in the dictionary is going to have tom. Brady's name next to it. None of those coaches passes no. There's not any passes. Known as coaches made any tackles they got guys in the right position because they watch a lot of film and they spent all their time. But tom brady is the patriot way. And that's and that's the reason. Why the super bowl right now and the patriots aren't safe relying angry. But i think he spoke at a. Yeah yeah no question now. Being true that is correct dammit. Danny amendola loves tom. Brady yeah on a lot of big clutch passes. He was as clutch a receiver he might have been beyond eshelman for making big clutch cats. The game win against seattle but he might call the option route. Okay he throw it and he could yes shit. So the point is that was stored up in him. He had planned to say that. Obviously that wasn't off the top of his head that was he had already decided to say well first things first he would love. You scare me. He was hoping that they ask this question. Something remotely would allow him to answer it this way and so he. He unleashed on bell check because he believes that. Tom set the culture right at tom. Sort of invented created and furthered the patriot way in new england. More than anybody on the coaching staff did especially the head coach so he got run out of town to bill may take years. European cut. Could cook yeah. He's like knob gone. I think of them. We'll take this. I'm done so in the end. I told you that brady said okay. I'll take my football and go elsewhere. And i'll go to tampa because they're loaded but they went seven and nine and they're just in search of in need of leadership that want any somebody to show them how to do it. I'm going to show them on the fly with virtual otas. No preseason games in and maybe we can get it together quickly enough just in time for the playoff run and they had december to remember because he brought them to a boil and he is created patriot. Way in tampa bay. Right and it's it's it's a joy for me to watch it because it shows you that that brady was the architect of it because he just transferred what he created in new england to tampa you. You can have look even military. Everybody has a eat. Those cold follow. But if you don't have strong people that's underneath to protect that eat those that cold that cre- to implement it. That's what tom brady. My colleague wrote it on the way. You do your job and want to do your job in this. Be time and be put team for all this. Fighting good is great. Britain little paper. The border got it. But if you don't have a guy in there that can implement that is this. Okay guys. this is how it needs to be in. It needs to be your best player if you get that guy bill followed. They'll follow him to the hill to the to the moon. Bright which is why. I believe bill. Belichick is getting exposed. Not so much as a coach but as a team builder because he buys groceries right right. He's bought lousy groceries. And tom brady made them taste a little better than they deserve to. Christ it was working but now you can't get away with that. You just is cadillac. College football remember coach sabit. Usually we go run the football. We're gonna play thought defense. Well the team. That wasn't playing defense. There was hanging fifty and sixty points on his defense with an offense so what he does. Okay y'all wanna play like this. Okay let me get guys. They can catch it. Okay and we'll be okay on defense but we every fifty outfits and win another national title. Coach ability is going to have to change his thinking the days of fan. I'm gonna shut somebody down to hold the ten twelve point yeah no.

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Gordon To The Patriots

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Gordon To The Patriots

"You're not gonna clock play for roughing, the quarterback, you gotta be kidding. How do they do jobs without being penalized for the patriots acquired, Josh Gordon being a trade with the Brown. He's the most dynamic wide receiver. Tom Brady's have since Randy. The cynic used as would ask you what's more prolific urban Meyer is wind total or as a policy token when it comes to the program's core value of treating women with respect who respected and protected coordi- myth. What you change your perception, sporting events. Get this shoot. Well, do outside the lines. I'm Bob Lee coming up in minutes, my live conversation with the Broncos Brandon. Marshall also in the NFL were Hannibal Lecter was once invoked as the example of player personnel expediency. The Uber master building roster jumps to acquire a player of the worst team on the planet couldn't get rid of fast enough. Our big story, Tuesday studios, Yellen of buzzer on a trade for a fifth round draft, pick these three things. We know to be true, Josh Gordon is a New England patriot the Cleveland Browns could not trade him away fast enough and Josh Gordon has personal medical issues. The electric skills that Gordon flash leading the NFL in yardage in a year, he only played fourteen games frame the expectations that have followed him since. But these skills in that season remember was five years ago of the past sixty six games of the Cleveland Browns play. Josh Gordon has participated in only eleven because of his recurring substance abuse problems and. NFL disciplined and when Gordon whom the Browns of stood by through very little thick and a whole lot of thin showed up last Friday with a hamstring injury. He sustained during a commercial shoot. Well, even this team who last one game Christmas Eve of 2016 decided they had had enough. And now he was exaggerating only a little when he said at three years ago, the general manager of the cardinal, Steve articulated, what he saw as the f. o.'s driving player acquisition in the NFL. It's always gonna be enticing for us, you know, regardless of their issues. If they have a tremendous skills said this before it's Hannibal Lecter and four, three, we'd probably diagnosed it as an eating disorder. You know, Annable Lecter if you're not scoring at home was a fictional murderer who ate his victims. Memorably portrayed on film by Sir, Anthony Hopkins in New England where Julian element is suspended for another two weeks. Philip door set with four career. TD catches and four seasons. His Tom Brady's top. Whiteout right now, the teams at one and one they're receiving. This order has been diagnosed and the answer, at least right now is dose of Josh Gordon and the reasoning. Well, a full explanation here from the legendary coach on a mental out, like we would want to bring a player came that we didn't be able to help arcane. Obviously they all work out, but that's always intent. In the past seven weeks, mister Bella check is made twenty five different moves at the wide receiver position guys going and coming and his quarterback offered this assessment of Gordon's arrival. I hate to make projections expectations. That's not fair, never met, Josh personally, just like I have met some of the guys that have come in the last couple of weeks. So we'll see how goes this week. Hopefully he can work hard with the team. I and end up helping us in any role that he can find himself on the team. Al- brings Jason read of the undefeated, sir. What adjective would you apply to this signing by the patriots. Low risk. I mean, they need a wide receiver and Bobby talking about all the moves that they've made to try to get one. This is the guy Josh Gordon. We hit a sixteen hundred yard season. We know what he can do. We also know the young man has had a lot of issues that have kept them off the field. He has to be active for ten of the fourteen games of the upcoming fourteen games for the Browns to get the fifth otherwise, okay, you know, seven hundred thousand dollars. It's not a lot of money. I think it was something that the the patriots felt that they had to do talk about the patriot way. Talk about what Bill check is built in with the veterans on the structure, the culture, but there is a history and we'll put up some names. We say it's complicated guys come to the team a little bit of history and baggage, Garrett blunt, and Kenny Brit, Corey Dillon, Michael Floyd, even our colleague, Randy moss who flourished there, but this Bella chicks got a history of this. Yeah, he does. You know, Bob look at those names on that list. Corey Dillon won a Super Bowl had a sixteen hundred yards season. If memory serves, Randy moss didn't wanna Super Bowl. They had an undefeated regular season and had not been for the giants. Having an incredible Super Bowl. They would have won a Super Bowl too. So yeah, Albert Hanes, what didn't work out the Floyd thing didn't work out, but Bill check is hit on some of those things so I can understand them doing it. All right. The other news initially reports out of Pittsburgh now confirmed by the head coach of the Steelers, Mike Tomlin telling everyone that end Tonio Brown has not shown up for work today. After the trade me, let's find out tweet and all the history onyx on the sideline. So the curtain goes up in another drama. Yeah. I was talking to someone in the Steelers organization Bob recently about something else, and I said, hey, how bad is the person's? That's pretty bad. You know, we all know about the living on bell situation. We see the frustration everyone. There knows Rothlisberger window is getting closer and closer to closing. And when you see where they're at right now, it's understandable that Brown guy who's very, you know, mostly wideout who would would be in a situation where it's like, okay, what's going on with this guy now, trying to find out as. Always Jason of the faded we check in with him often. Thank you. And now the penalty call that is ignited a fewer and a wave of pushback from the league to talk to linebacker. Brandon Marshall live about this. Cousins looks downfield being rushed by claiming berry, throws a deep down the middle. That way it was a plan. No, they're not gonna call play for roughing. The quarterback. That is absolutely awful. I really wanna know NFL what the hell you want them to do in that split second, they tried to say, here's what you're supposed to do. I guess not really gonna, make sure it's not a competitive dispirit cash on, say. Is what it is. It's the penalty flag that's caused the NFL to declare. Yup. We're going to use this as an instructional tape and the last two heads of NFL officiating. No, no, you shouldn't be doing that who better to talk about with this than a Super Bowl champion linebacker, Brandon? Marshall of the Denver Broncos joining me, he's in his seventh season in the league is also at activist player on social issues will be talking to him about that. But let's first talk when you when you saw that whistle and that flag and that call, what did you think. Man, honestly think it's it's so hard in the players. Now, you know, how can you really, you know. You know, play defense or hit the quarterback, you know, without any repercussion. So it's kinda tough. I think you've got to. It's almost like they want us to hit him, but hit him softly, kinda push them down or whatever the case may be. I know it's kind of tough, but what a league is going and is hard, but we have to adjust the league said, well, they scooped him up. It looked to me and Lord knows I've never sect quarterback. You done this. The other option was land on them with all the body weight. So what options that he have an as the approach, Kirk cousins yet, basically two options, right? Or lose his job. Absolutely. I mean, he didn't even scoop them up. You know? I mean, Kirk is probably way louder, you know, obviously clay Matthews as a real strong guy. He hit him and he's taking him to the ground. That's exactly what happened. He didn't land with all his force on them, so I don't really understand the call, but that's something that we have to be aware of. Now, what valued is that have as a training tape is more confusing. Yeah, I mean, so last week they brought a teach us how to land on the quarterback or how to hit the quarterback. And so you know, we kinda thought that it will help us out, but it almost brought some more confusion. So you know, we kinda confused on on what we're supposed to do. You know, I know a lot of the pass rushers are von this kind of confused. He doesn't really know what to do, but you gotta play man. He's gotta play and hopefully that one of these calls change the outcome of a game, and we're not even talking about the lowering my helmet rollers and all that's involved there. One of the thing on the field I'm gonna get you from this past Sunday when you saw and heard after the fact, if you got off the clock on Sunday, the vantera Davis situation with the bills retiring at halftime as a professional football player. What went through your mind. In, honestly, my first reaction was a laughed. You know, I've never heard of anybody retiring at halftime. He was kind of it's quite hilarious, but I guess he he didn't had enough, you know, you know the first two weeks. I haven't had a lot of success. I know he's ten years in, but retired at halftime is I think it's very emotional decision and it's emotional. I think he, you know, there's no way he could've made a decision right in that moment that that was the best decision for him. So it was a motion decision. I laughed at it, but I don't think he's done. Yeah, they might be more story. Let's talk a little bit about and more and a little bit about about your activism. You're out front early in two thousand sixteen with the being visible and vocal on social issues. You have chosen to stay in this year in the locker room during the national anthem, but what is the clause that is animating you right now off the field. Well, the causes enemy right now is called the field movement stands for feed and educate empower leaders with every every two hundred fifty dollars raised. People will get a feel box, no income families. We'll get a feel box and it contains educational products contains fo-for for month and hygiene product. So this is my next step. And you know, I want to give back to the low income families in Las Vegas and Denver, and this is something up with shopping out of fun shop. Now to find is a conscious shop market. Now that forty percent of our proceeds go to do good causes. And so I thought this is the perfect thing to do. You know, sat down with Jacob WADA's my manager and the people are not a fun to kind of create something. Give back to community and and help with, you know everything that's going on. So you know, I'm I did that. And this is where I'm at right now in the area of activism. I mean, we've been score keeping who's in who's kneeling raising fist, but on the overall issue. If you look at where we were in two thousand sixteen both as a country and as a sport and where we are in two thousand eighteen what's changed. Nothing is just a lot more awareness that's brought to to the social issues. And you know, you know the social injustices among road a long road is is not something that could necessarily be fixed quickly. But I think as long as everybody's doing individual part, you know everybody who's who's taking a stand and people who want to go out and do good in the community. I think if we just stay on these grassroots programs and and give back, I think that'll help us out man. I wanna thank you know that the police department for sitting there and talking to me about, you know, all my issues I had and they also decide it's of you that use of force policy. So I felt like I've been doing some good things. I felt like Caspian doing some good things. And as long as we keep pushing and keep going, we'll make some headway is always important. We appreciate you joining us. We look to continue the conversation down the line, best of luck to you and your team into your work off the field. Thank you, Brandon. Marshall of the Bronco next up the coach. And the messaging urban Meyer fully back on the job. Here's your two minute warning. All finebaum is here coming up next. Computer execute twelve point, four p. operation. Optimizing algorithm running encryption, packet alpha, Knight, Knight. I don't feel so good. What? What is it computer? Is it hot in here? It feels hot in here. I feel a little clammy. I should lie down or something a computer with a virus. Surprising. What's not surprising how much you could save by switching to Geico those oysters. Rockefeller were a mistake. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. Today. Resenting. That this past summer twenty one players already in the pro football fame, say it's time that hall of famers were provided health insurance and a salary by the football stablishment. And if they do not get it, they will not attend future hall of fame enshrinement. 's demand is contained in a letter released today in which the hall of famers criticized pension and disability benefits for football players and compare them on favorably to what they say, ordinary major league baseball players received Eric Dickerson joins me. He's the chairman of this new so-called hall of fame board and Eric's good heavier. I guess the answer comes down to like, why? Why should the football anti up? Well, because one thing is that the guys deserve this. I mean, we play the most dangerous sport. It is in sports. Football and they deserve it. I mean this way overdue, when you go to the hall of fame and you see the guy can't hardly get around, they have no health care. A lot of have Medicare Medicaid that you know that that's fine, but it's no healthcare and it should be health care. I mean, major league baseball has it. You know, they have a great pension plan, but we don't major league baseball. You play one day and major league baseball. You know, you have health care for the rest of your life. You play forty three days and you're not to play only garage for three days. You get thirty thousand ten years. You get two hundred thousand rescue and it feels not even close to that. I won't forget my good friend, deacon Jones. And he said to me, say every pension, I say what I have taken. I'm like like forty one. I probably get like twelve hundred dollars so you know what I get. I got two hundred funky dollars, two hundred fifty dollars a month. He said, what am I gonna do with two hundred fifty dollars a month. I think the perception is that all NFL players are rich and we have made. And that's just so far from the truth. Your letter is addressed to the head of the hall of fame. David Baker also to Roger Goodell. Who's the head of the football establishment on that side? And certainly we know about the billions of dollars there and also demorris Smith. How would you characterize the job that the players union to your mind has done taking care of retired players? Horrible har- responsibility there though too, because they're not. You know what I go back to Jean Jean shell started this with with years ago. We when I was planning, I won't forget. He said, look, I don't have an obligation to retire players, my obligations, the current players, and they can't hire me a fire me. And I guess he was right to point it. They couldn't hire him afire but they never taken care of the older play. The guys who started the game. This is just went over to the mar Smith. These guys deserve this. I mean, the money that they make an. I've always say, I'm not count anyone. My that's not my thing is just doing the right thing. You know, we don't have. We don't have CBS table. We don't. We. We need a voice there. A lot of younger players know someone older players, do we know some hall of fame guys are, you know? And I really believe that the players now will have a good pension. But going right now, the players pre ninety three, the pension is terrible. I mean you talking about twelve hundred dollars a month. Eight hundred dollars a month. I mean, it's it's really sad. What leverage do you have in your good name? Is your leverage yours and guys signatories to this include Marcus Allen, Joe name. Jerry Rice, but you fig you're not coming back to future infringements in twenty twenty beginning with hundred year football unless you get this much leverage. Do you really think you have here? You know, after like we have a lot of letters and the big thing is that look, this is all about the sport of football men and these players not just me. I'm looking at the Jim Brown, Jim Brown. When I taught Jim Brown column Mukalla, Jim Brown, I told him what we're doing and he said to me, Eric, I want to say, thank you, ma'am. Thank you for all the players that made me feel so good. That gave me the coaches made me wanna do it even more, but I feel like the leverages, the players. I mean, look a lot of guys. They don't don't go to the hall anyway and is not wanna ever disrespect the guys that are going into the hall because I love the hall of fame when I went to the hall of fame, I said, I would never do anything to hurt the hall. I'm not trying to hurt the hall. I'm trying to help the hall of famers. That is my goal that is not say Mago. That is our goal because we talked to the guys who talked talked about this. This is our goal is to help the players and also not just the hall of fame. I wanna make that. Perfectly clear. One thing is we have to have CBS. We want all players to help health insurance, not just think a seat at the table with all the Interweb out there. I don't. I don't know if I'll have one. I hope someone in if it's retired players hall of Famer I believe I believe that that will happen. It's not the two thousand twenty one, but I think that can happen. Have you heard from either the union or the league? No, I haven't. Even the union the, you know, the level just got released this morning, but I haven't got a lot of calls like I say, let me tell you this is not a job that I wanted really, and I told the guys look, if we do this makes you don't leave me hanging. 'cause I mean, I talked to David Baker. One thing I told David Baker is said, the guys who know me know this about me that I am loyal and I'm law to the calls of these guys, our guys all of us guys. They always talk about family, the family, other players of the National Football League and the hall of fame that's the true family of the NFL those guys. And that's the family that you're part of, certainly. And every summer it gathers demands on the team, Eric, good to talk to you. I'm sure we'll be visiting with you on this going forward. Preciado your time. Thank you very much. Now, Hieaux state are in Myers. Fourth, ranked, Ohio State buckeyes three and thirty six and a half point favorites this week against too late. Admire fully back on the job after his suspension over his handling of the Zac Smith matter, perhaps he will get to a point in the season with the buckeyes run towards a national championship will be the sole story datelined Columbus, but we are not there yet. Myers spent the last several days continue to answer questions about the mess which is defined his in Ohio states profile date. The messaging has been a challenge. I want to be perfectly clear to the world that urban Meyer does not condone what never allow domestic violence never want to truth to be out there. The truth is I made an air, Tom, I aired in supporting and trying to help troubled employees from the report. You also discussed how to adjust the settings on your phone. So text messages older than a year would be deleted from the report. Why? I made it very clear that I didn't do not delete messages off my phone. I made it also very clear that I don't understand how to change the setting on my phone. Yet the report says your reactions in the reports findings indicate, quote, consciousness of guilt. Y'all do respect to the report. There is no consciousness of guilt about what was on my phone. None when it comes to the program's core value of treating women with respect. Who respected and protected Courtney Smith. Oh, that's. That's a tough question. Brings us to Paul find a lot of questions out of answers. This is something Meyer cannot get away from. He can't. Bob. What he's done is he's gone right back to the beginning because he he's told so many lies in the process. He's tried to relitigate this at every turn that he really just can't wipe the Gulf of his face. He wasn't in good shape a couple of weeks ago when he had to come back the day or two days after the press conference in apologized, Courtney Smith, but headed ended there, it still would have been bad, but at least it would have been over. But he then came back on Twitter and now he's come back with this interview and I just don't understand it. He can't get out of his own way. Yeah, and maybe it's impossible get to the point this season. We're just talking about football. Let's change the subject in the middle little bit about North Texas who doesn't love to watch this watch and listen and enjoy. Spinner on that's smart play to catch that of the ten yard line here by Keegan brewer. So North Texas come into Fayetteville and show he's made a fan. Catch signal. He's gone down the sideline. This will be a touchdown. Nobody thought he was gonna. Do any taco. Join me in a fervent prayer to not touch the playbook. Let plays like this happen. And don't forget about Arkansas fired its athletic director who didn't want to fire the head coach and then fired the head coach to reset and recalibrate program with Chad Morris, and that's what they get. I, it's just it's the two guys are talking to each other right there. All right coaches on the on the worry meter, Scott frost, central Florida, their their national championship and quotes in the rear view mirror, and it's a struggle right now at Nebraska. It was only a year ago after somewhat winning national championship or or so they claimed that's Ross was the hottest coach in the country. I mean, he turned down multiple schools so he could return to his alma mater. It's a terrible start. I still believe it's got for us. We'll get this turned around, but the Brassica of today is not exactly the Brassica Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne things have changed, and I got twenty seconds. Willie Taggart asking for patience and Tallahassee. Will he get it. Not much you can. You can blame JIMBO Fisher who laughed, but this is Willie taggers program in it's a mess. All right. Paul finebaum anything, but always appreciate talking to game with you. Thanks so much. We'll step aside for a moment. NFL live back in just a moment. They will be talking about Josh Gordon and his addition to the patriots. Tonight cards and Braves Lewis right now, second in the wildcard, Braves, five up the east on the ESPN app sportscenter at sixteen with sage in Kevin, getting ready for the Red Sox and the Yankees game one Hervey on week three. And what's going on with the roughing. The passing really talking to Brandon says he stuff even if you're a pro. All right. NFL live is next. We started our show talking about Josh Gordon, Jack Collins worth and company. They're talking about Josh. He's now patriot. We'll see you tomorrow.

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02/02/2021 - HOUR 2 - Top 10 Players in the Super Bowl, Peter King, Eric Dickerson

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02/02/2021 - HOUR 2 - Top 10 Players in the Super Bowl, Peter King, Eric Dickerson

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Find your local station for the hurt at fox. Sports radio dot com or stream. It live every day on the iheartradio app by searching heard. You're listening to fox sports radio. No here we go at tower to tuesday live in los angeles. It's the her wherever you may be in. However you may be listening iheartradio fox sports radio and at s one joy taylor joining me danny. Amendola stopped by today. Peter king lighter trend dilfer to eric dickerson. All sorts of stuff just had any redone. Any dumber at hawaiian. Kansas city chiefs. It was such a great year last year when he wanted it was it almost felt like everybody in football was kinda rooting for him. Because everybody knew he was a great coach and he just didn't quite have the right quarterback the signal all of the the trigger guy and they win yes. No one was really speak in absolutes. Obviously but if anyone was really rooting against the forty niners but if you didn't have anyone in the super bowl you kind of want andy reid a win. Well yeah because it felt like last year. The forty niners kyle. Shanahan was young. Garoppolo is young. A lot of their defensive front is young like they're going to be back and it was like he didn't feel that bad they lost. It's like yeah they'll be they'll be fine kyle shanahan but he region in his sixties. And it's like okay. You didn't want to go to another super bowl news again because those of us who appreciate. He's made football better for our is right and this story always has to be told with what you did in championship games. So you don't want that held against somebody with its greatness. That andy reid is. It's it's funny like a lot of coaches. That won super bowls. That aren't in. Andy reed's class and we we do this all the time we spent so much time you never won the big game. People just don't understand. How many games andy. Reid was in one before the super bowl last year. This folks this is not the nba or baseball. Where you get one hundred and sixty two or eighty two games like you every sunday you go into a three game winning streak. I've had players tommy. This you have a three game losing streak. As a coach you start losing players even good teams. You can lose a game and you can lose back to back but you gotta win that third game pete carroll may drive some guys nuts seahawks. Don't lose three straight games much. Well that's what's so great about the nfl's that every game matter so much so big. So what i do before these big games. I take a yellow pad. And i write down. Who i think in order are the ten best players and i usually get a seven at three or eight to two split and i feel. They're going to win this game and i and i was surprised. I've said this that that kansas city was only a three point favorite. When when a game started. I tried to guess the line and my guess was it would be closer to five. Be more of a five point spread four and a half five five and a half. It's three to three and a half and so this morning. I thought right. Let's just right down the ten best players. What i believe in order in the super bowl and here we go number wide all right patrick mahomes. Let's not argue about it last twenty six games. He's won twenty five sixty touchdowns twelve picks in that space. He is the has the best. Winning percentage eighty three percent of any quarterback in the super bowl era so he would be the best player in this game. Best player is patrick. Mahomes the second best player would be tom brady. Let's just stop the nonsense. You didn't think he was going to here okay. And since week fourteen. He's absolutely on fire. Seven oh and a passer rating of one eleven. So as thomas learned the system. Most of us predicted you did i did. They would be better offensively late than early. that was clearly. The case accepted for that saint loss at home. So brady's the second best player. He's also the two quarterbacks also take the most snaps have the ball and will direct the most traffic. So they're very influential. Number three would be travis kelsey. I think he's the best tight end. Potentially in five or six more years we've ever seen Most receiving yards in season by tight end in nfl history including the playoffs in the playoffs this year. When he's been targeted patrick mahomes passer rating is one hundred. Forty four I think he's i think he's the toughest match up in the nfl. There's guys that are faster. There's guys that are bigger. But i don't think there's a linebacker that can cover him and i don't think there's a safety that can bring him down or a corner so i'd say travis kelsey is. The unstoppable weapon is number three number four. Go tyreek hill fast player in the league. You have to bracket him last time. Tampa faced him. It was absurd in two hundred and seventy yards and three touchdowns. It was the best day by any player playing wide receiver in the nfl He has that. Look sometimes if you ever go to a high school game and there's like one kid that's going to be a college player and it doesn't look fairy just faster than everybody tyreek hill in the. Nfl is just faster than everybody and he gets rolled on the outside. He makes corners looked. Slow i'd say tyreek hill. Four number five. Mike evans brady fell in love with him. Fast and mike evans is fantastic. Only player in nfl history. Mike evans wide receiver for the tampa. Bay buccaneers thousand plus receiving yards in each of his first seven seasons came at texas am. He's big he can run he strong. And the frustrating part to defending my evans. You can have him covered but he's an nba player. You're six seven. he's long. He can jump so i mean even watching practice footage. He looks like an nba guy out there. He's just he's just a problem. You can defend him. Well those are the guys that are legends. you got him defended. Well you got you. Got walter payton. The late great walter. Payton got him cornered and he picks up yards. You can defend mike evans. Well he's still makes lies number six the most instinctive player in this game Tyron matthew. I put him in here and i may have higher than others pro bowler last two years. The only player that i can think of in my lifetime that is as instinctive literally is always around the ball. Is ed reed for the ravens. Those players in my lifetime have an ability to sniff the play if you watch footage of. Kansas city's defense. He is just staring at the eyes of the quarterback. He'll move from the left side of the field of the right side of the field One of four players with twenty plus picks in the last five years. I think he is so incredibly valuable and most of the stuff he does not. The fastest came out of lsu. He wasn't a number one corner not really a safety is not big enough to be a linebacker. He is just great football player. That's what he is a great football player number. Seven chris jones a total disruptor for the chiefs on the defensive front second most sacks by any defensive tackle in the last three years except aaron donald again. He's just Very hard singularly block. He's aggressive. He's a personality. He's a trash talker. And you saw in buffalo. They struggled to block him and so he he is a defensive tackle. There's only two or three in the league. There's fletcher cox donald. There's chris jones. You look at tape. You have got to figure out extra people block him on the interior or he will sack your quarterback most interior linemen. Don't get to the quarterback He's the highest grade defensive player. The chiefs have according to pro football focus number eight lante david linebacker on a very instinctive highest gritted linebacker for either team. He's essentially a tackle machine twenty plus sacks a thousand tackles one hundred tackles for loss since entering the league. He's the only player with those numbers. So he'll be around the ball. He'll get somebody. Behind the line of scrimmage. Killing up with eleven tackles his number will be called as much as anybody's number playing defense sunday number nine via defensive tackle who missed a big part of the year in the six games he played for tampa. They allowed sixty yards rushing. He is just looking. He's impossible to move. He's a little short. He came out of washington. He didn't have the perfect size and dimensions and length. He has been great since he entered the league. He is a problem and there is no question that green bay we thought they were gonna come out and kind of have their way. Running the ball against tampa and no via was back played limited snaps this game. He should all in number ten shaq barrett Tampa great player led the nfl and sax last two years with thirty one three sacks against the packers. he's what everybody is trying to get the draft it. Can you get the quarterback. Then have to be a perfect play. Can you get the quarterback. Yeah i can thirty-six last two years one so it's five and five ten five chiefs chiefs have a majority of top seven players. What's interesting if i went. Eleven through fifteen. I would have four bucks in one chief. Eleven through fifteen. I would go antonio brown box shaped box right. Tackle and works box clyde edwards helaire chiefs alley marquette the offensive lineman for the bucks. So as you look at it now the chiefs have more great players the bucks to me have a greater depth of talent and that plus being in tampa is why this is a field goal. Game is i think tampa has more high end players but in terms of great players the chiefs have more. That's my takeaway. I still like kansas city. But i get. I get the close thing. And then when you take out eric fisher mitchell schwartz. That's where that keeps. Andy reid up. That's like okay this was gonna be kinda scrappy regardless but the safeties are back for tampa tackles are out for kansas city. And that explains your field goal game because many of you know the wise guys like kansas city but the majority of the bats. More bets are on tampa. And that's why peter king's around the corner eric dickerson to be sure to catch live. Editions of the heard. Weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am pacific on fox. Sports radio one and the iheartradio app new tracks new teams and a new champ. The twenty twenty one nascar season starts in just two weeks with the great american race. The daytona five hundred february. All the on set it before. And i'll say it again. One football game left. I was listening. I think i may have said last. Time peter king was on. I was listening to some epidemiologist before in the middle of the summer. Say they're not gonna be able to play football. It's just people tackling each other. It's not gonna work. You can play hockey. You can new golf you can and here. We are one football game left. And it's very fitting. It's the best team. Kansas city favored over a guy. That just won't go away. Tom brady and peter king not going away either. Nbc sports dot com joining us. Now live on tuesday. It is crazy. I said i said a couple of minutes ago. I said kansas city feels like okay. They were gonna get here said to you before the season so brady goes to a team. A new team pandemic not season. His coach calls him out several times. They melt down on national tv. He screams at teammates. They have thirteen penalties. They get beat at home with the saints. Thirty eight to three and then the biggest game of the year. Brady's throws three straight picks. You decide to yourself. Oh nice season but that ended like three weeks ago. And i look at tampa. I'm like they have overcome for five months. I didn't think they'd be here. I still can't quite. I can't quite get my arms around it. Or how surprised. Are you there here. Well on labor day weekend in my column. I picked the bucks to win the super bowl. So i mean have i been surprised. Have i been surprised at the bumps in the road and they're still here somewhat but colin. You will see this when the ultimate biography is done on the career of thomas edward brady. The one thing you will see is that there are many many times when in september and october brady looks like crap and the patriots slash bucks. Look like crap. Yeah many times and then. It's exactly what i wrote about. After he came back to beat atlanta from twenty eight to three and i said in in overtime late in the fourth quarter. His two goto receivers were chris hogan and malcolm mitchell and i just said to brady week after the game i said what why what are you doing he goes. Hey we practice we get to know each other and he said you honestly with with chris hogan it is one hundred and twenty two practices. That's what we've had during the year so by the time we get to the end of the year. We're gonna fit together like a pair of old gloves and so you wonder right now. Wonder why is he able to throw that past. Scotty miller right before you know. Right before. The half that beating kevin king and getting a free touchdown. Why does he do that. Column about august. Tenth i was in tampa. I saw his first full padded practices against the defense that day. Scotty miller made a catch almost exactly like that diving in the end zone. Right over one of the tampa corners. And so all i'm saying is that practice practice practice practice practice big moment. Don't be surprised at brady. So you know it's there's a lot going on in the nfl. Right now and saturday night. I'm sitting having a cup of coffee. Just listening to music with my wife and goth and stafford. My phone blows up. And i'm like this is nuts and it's interesting because the rams gave up six picks to get golf and three to get rid of him and they paid him and for your have dead money to me. This trade said mcveigh was done with him and that the owner has so much confidence in mcveigh has such an utter belief in him that he could go to him and say. I know we've paid him. I know it's nine picks. I know but do you believe in me. That's what it felt like to me. It was the owner. Saying i believe in this kid. If sean doesn't think we can win anymore with him. That's what it felt like to me. What did you make the whole night that it was proof. That sean mcvay. Totally lost faith in jared goff. And he wasn't gonna win it back colin in two thousand eighteen. When you saw jared goff play football. He was like for people of a certain age. He was like darrell lamonica. When he got to the oakland raiders he became the mad bomber. He was just throwing these rainbows out of the sky. And and you know they were. They were an incredibly deep deep. Striking team remember that thursday night game on fox in two thousand eighteen. And it's minnesota. Yeah at the rams up beautiful night at the coliseum and there was a couple of long throws that jared goff made that were just absolutely beautiful bombs that dropped out of the sky right in the hands of is receivers and all i'm saying. Is that if you watched the rams this year. I gotta say i did watch every snap. He doesn't they do not pressure the defense deep at all and that in my opinion i've never asked mcvay about it. I don't know i mean i. Hopefully we'll find out about it in a few weeks. But i think this was all about. He had lost the ability or the he he had lost. The confidence in jared goff's ability to be a game-breaker so t j lang former teammate of aaron rodgers. Good buddy says he's hell bent on revenge and i. I said you know. I understand being upset with jordan. Love sided with aaron rodgers on this in that aaron rodgers wakes up every morning. Peter and the going out. And get jamal adams and rams making deals with jalen ramsey and the saints are adding pieces and philadelphia's aggressive and the niners are aggressive and you know the packers are out there putting their money away into the 401k pan off their house they've got sort of this kind of conservative. Mindset that we do business. I do get him looking around and saying get. Somebody opened the bank up a little bit here. It icon aside with aaron a little bit. I know you know. Aaron can be passive aggressive. But i get his frustration ten years ago. The league didn't make trades like this. Peter this wasn't the nfl now everybody in the nfc aggressive well. Here's the way i look at this colin. It's the ultimate irony in aaron rodgers career that when the green bay packers didn't need a quarterback they toca quarterback in the twenties of the draft in two thousand five and had them sit for three years and then he took over for brett farve. And how ironic is it that when the packers don't need a quarterback fifteen years later they pick a guy in the twenties again to sit behind aaron rodgers probably for three years and then we'll see now i think that jordan love much bigger chance to be green bay's jimmy garoppolo than he does. Bean green bay's aaron rodgers. But let's face it. Aaron rodgers is tilting at windmills. Right now the exact same way. That brett farve did fifteen years ago. But but i'll just say this. The one way i agree with you is that so remember. They they score late in the third quarter to go behind tampa eight twenty three. Yep all right and they decide. We're going for two so aaron rodgers. If this had been tom brady he would have had in the end zone at that time. Gronk mike evans chris. Godwin maybe scotty miller maybe cameron break to throw to aaron. Rodgers throws a ball right in the hands of equity. Anemia saint brown and he drops it. Yeah so if you're aaron rodgers and you're thinking about that in looking at you know basically i'm going into war with the bb gun you know. I'm sure he is frustrated. But welcome the packers. This is the way they operate. Finally i noticed. I remember being on the air at the other place. This was about a twelve years ago. And i said on the air i said andy reed's the first nfl coach. I remember that third and two is a passing down. And i said this is a real kind of tough guy city philadelphia. We like our football tough. And i'm like he's doing this. Clever finesse stuff. And i said i don't know how many people are watching but it's fascinating. They're like doing college drawn up stuff. I've never seen. That was the first time. I really thought about andy reid and recognized him. When did he get on your radar and people start telling you because you've been around longer than i have covering this league. This andy reid guy is different. He is played designer. He's clever when did you first notice him. Well i mean. I've known indie. Since i went to do a story for sports illustrated in one thousand nine hundred ninety five. I spent a week in green bay a week in the life of the packers. He's on that staff. And i got to know him briefly that we can and i just remember andy. Reid wanted to be a sports writer when he went to brigham young even wrote a column in that so he looked at me like man. I love to have loved to have your job. But where i really where i really started to notice him and again this is this is long past. When he's winning big games. I thought that my opinion changed on him radically when he traded donovan mcnabb in the division decade or so ago and it changed radically because he said hey. Listen i know a lot of you. Don't think this makes any sense. But i am going to do something that even though it might not make sense to you i have determined that in my opinion. I'm not winning the super bowl with donovan mcnabb. I'm trading him. What happens in two thousand eighteen january of two thousand eighteen. I'm not winning a super bowl with alex. Smith were trading him. And i'm giving the job to the kid so i like someone who says i know this goes against the green but i believe in it and this is what sean mcvay is doing right. Now go ahead at half. The world's going to rip the crap out of me and rightfully so could be. But i trust matthew stafford to take us farther in two thousand and twenty one. Then we do in two thousand and twenty nbc. Sports dot com. Peter king good stuff. Good insight been covering this legal longtime in detail redes- stuff. Peter appreciate stories today. Thanks god all right. Good stuff eric. Dickerson joins us today. Trent dilfer has been in the super bowl. Danny amendola has been in a couple of joy. Taylor with the news heard on the news. This is the third line news. There's just put together an mvp campaign. No question no question but stop short of a super bowl. Very disappointed yet again. Surfable controversy after the lossing future was little uncertain muddy and former teammate. T j lang believes rogers is so upset with team and wants to make them pay. I think he's going to be hell bent on revenge man. He was quietly pissed when they took jordan love year ago. I think he's gonna make them pay man. He's gonna want some sort of new deal where they guarantee couple more years for him Securitywise being green bay. I don't think he wants to go anywhere. But i think he's going to hold their feet to the fire say fe. You're going to keep me around a you're gonna pay me and be you're going to bring us some players that i wanna play with where we pick this next week. I side with aaron rodgers. On this i do. It's nothing to do with the shawn watson situation but again there's just outliers whereas like we've watched the career we've watched how mazing they've been and then we've watched all the things happen. That are completely outside of their control. And it's not that the packers are dysfunctional organization. They are most certainly not. But i needed that jordan. Love fake hated it. Nothing insured lots of the wrong pick for this organization. Love the packers. Last year they get to the nfc championship game. What happens they get rolled. Right what do you do. You go draft a quarterback in the first round trade up. What are you doing well. Let me look at if you look at lebron success. He's always had a robin like he's got to l. a. He basically did get all these young guys outta here and rich. Paul gives him anthony davis and the reality is if lebron was aaron rodgers. They would say you know. We're stay with these young guys. We can win a lot of games with these young guys. Which would lebron you could. But the reason the bronco seems eternally. Happy his co. he goes to miami and they get him bausch and then ray allen and in batty as and when you don't get lebron stuff he's like okay. I'm done now matt cleveland. I don the first. Brian has had the first time around cleveland while he left because he was essentially stuck there for those for seven years so he had to deal with their dysfunction in their inability to bring players there wolf once he had control. Then it's like no no no. I'm going to stay here only if you do this. That's right and it's lebron. James doesn't want to win games. He to win. Champion she in but lebron can sign one year contracts and not worry as much about health and football. Aaron had a couple of injuries. You can't sign a one year deal right. But but in a world what aaron basically saying is. I'm looking around at all. These stars in america abroad gets weapons. Brady gets weapons in the and he's looking around. Russell gets weapons and breathe gets weapons. I don't have any. I got a great running back in a great receiver i mean. Let's not pretend we made it nap talent but they do. Of course they get his angst you. You need to go all in. Yes go all in why. Everyone's kind of banging on the saints right now. Like they're in a bad situation. Moving forward the saints at all. You're running back with drew. Brees go all in go all into have the guy you have to try in these moments now. Might you might suffer for a few years but you have credibility with your fans. Have you won before now. I will say this. I said this two weeks ago on the show. I don't think there's a better place for him than green bay. Because i think green bay gives you. He's had two of coaches and great offensive. Line place i not want. There's no pity party here now. They're championship game two years. Don't pity party for him. but i do. If these are the complaints jordan love peck lack of weapons. Let's go all in free agency if these are the complaints i totally defend but i don't wanna make it out to be. It's the houston situation. This is well rough comparison. It's just that we're both. We're both on the side of the players in this situation. Rogers needs something else like you need. You need one more thing and the there's just comes a time where you have to be aggressive. You have to. You have to step aside outside of your comfort zone and do something different. So reports surfaced weeks being the shawn watson that his agents inform the taxes that the sean would not participate in any offseason activities if he remains with the team but his agent strongly denied those rumors. He tweeted on behalf of david. Guetta who. I speak too often. I can confirm this. Information is made up much like much much of the other breaking news. I've heard attributed sources close to watson. So he's being sarcastic agents basically saying is true that there's no that it's not true that watson's not gonna show up in the offseason activities as of yet like there's obviously things are starting to snowball now because he has requested a trade and we haven't seen any movement really other than rumors as far as how that's going and because the texans are now coming out so strongly and saying they have no interest in trading him. We're all assuming that this is going directly full steam ahead towards a very dramatic ugly situation. So he's nine that report that he has any plans not showing up as of yet obviously. There's fines and things like that involved with not coming to prop some certain offseason training. But we're not there yet i i. I really hope this does not get ugly ugly. If it doesn't get any uglier finally bradley beal's been playing incredibly well. But the wizards are the bottom of the eastern conference. It would be understandable. He wanted to get out of washington but according to the athletic deals express so far that he is committed to the wizards does not wanna traded. He's also reportedly frustrated and confused with those who criticize him for choosing to say they are foreign twelve last in the east he recently became the first player in nba history to lose ten straight forty point games. He's averaging thirty four point nine points. I in the nba point one rebounds and four point seven assists per game. My wife said something the other day she said. Some people are talented not aspiration. Some people are aspirational without any talent. It's rare to be lebron. Kobe jordan brady bradley. Beal's really talented. Is it possible. Making good money planned hoops. You like the city. that's enough. yeah. I mean we do see this as players sometime. We want something them don't and that's an said she goes colin not everybody sees the world but some people just want to do what they wanna do. And they live in their town and they're happy and they have a bagel place next and they've got their their parents live there not everybody. You make a nice living from miami. You're the only person. I know miami media in sports because miami's an easy place to fall in love to even to my hometown like i'm from pittsburgh people live. Leave pittsburgh in miami but you you have. You have left miami multiple times and but most people you work within the media and many are super talented. They're just happy there and they don't even go national happy. You you have a consistent job. You're comfortable doing what you love. Good weather knows they tax which stand But yeah there's you can't force your aspirations onto other people. I've tried many many many many times. Kill every time you just wired that way or you're not and that doesn't mean that rally bills not great. He is but maybe he just doesn't want to do it the way that lebron doesn't want to do it. The way that tom brady is doing it. He doesn't want to. I get damian lillard. Stay in portland portland winds right like washington's awful. I don't get it. I don't get it either but i'm starting to just believe that's what the situation right now. Here's what i'll say you can't really technically thoughts like you can say you're the greatest local broadcaster history of broadcasters. Therefore your next step up. Maybe you are great for what it is that you do but like you can't put yourself in those other categories of guys who are who are willing to move who are willing to take those chances to be criticized and whatever katie lebron and they win championships because how your business works also matters and the way that the business of the nba works right now. Is you have to be with another star in order to win so you can't have it both ways. That's right the news. Well that's the news. Thanks for stopping by heard lie famer eric dickerson. Next be sure to catch live editions of the heard. Weekdays at noon eastern nine am pacific. He's a hall of famer. Who played for over a decade a college football hall of famer a pro football hall of famer retire the number two all time leading. Rusher got a book coming out. Eric dickerson is now joining us. Live made the playoffs in each of his first five seasons. You better save room. Because he didn't make him a lot after that. I'll tell you that you when you were making all those playoffs you try. Thought it was gonna be forever right. Well you know not to make it. You think is going to be The playoffs and never made it to a super bowl You know that's the sometimes you don't have all the pieces when you play pro football. So goff jared goff you. And i both liked him and something happened this year. November twenty nine. They lose at home. He's bad against nick. Mullins in the niners goth gets criticized. Publicly by sean mcvay and it never felt after that. Eric mcveigh was in on him. Are you surprised. They traded him no. I'm not well. I you know i am surprised. They traded him because of the contract. I didn't think anyone would take that contract and take that on. So that was. That was one of my surprises. I just felt like that you know he won. Plan will and it's it's just football. Goes i gotta say we wanna thank brad homes from detroit. He was a you know. Worked for the rams Taking for helping us out you know what would help us out with that deal You know it was. Football is about how you plan. It's not it's not. What about you did we last year. The super bowl last. It's about right now and gothic you ever have struggled for the last two years and badly i mean and the quarterback position is very very important. It's not like running back or receiver but this guy touches the ball every time the center then him he's gonna have body makes the calls and i think one thing. When i saw one game. I think it was the the seattle a game where it was it was third and fourth and one something third thing is third and fourth and he slid instead of going forward and i said the sale of work and i beg at that point i d i just saw it. Kind of going downhill. You know with the with him. And the coach steps on with the coaches about it but you just see me because as a football team the defense unit they get frustrated. They may not say it to you but they get frustrated. You know and same thing with offensive is going home. They won you get frustrated. And i don't know that the defense had to be frustrated with offense match. Stafford new rams quarterback. Do you think there are better. Football team most definitely most down that thank the are. I mean people talk about you. Know mets w Got hurt and you know. But he played one hundred thirty six game straight And even when he broke his back broke practice. Bonus back in two thousand nine hundred. Still want to play. But you know the the franchise atlantic play and look. He's in detroit. You gotta keep that in mind. I mean detroit is not the place. That's you wanna start your nfl career. But it's not. His body started thinking. About calvin johnson he was like i think he played eight or nine years like. Hey i can't do it anymore. Barry sanders. I mean it just shows a history in detroit. I really think matt stab is probably one of the top five quarterback in the nfl. But he hasn't had a team around him to really show what he can really do. I mean he's like an office coordinator on the field. I think that john bacon opened up his playbook. He doesn't have to trim it down. You know he can relieve fences very quickly because he's been doing it for twelve us so most dentists and upgrade i'm glad we got him And big when it's all said and done i record saying that he will win the super bowl in los angeles. How 'bout that interesting. When you look at the season for tampa and tom brady. I mean god. You got arians called him out. You got no preseason you got. He struggled initially to get the kind of the offense. Haman they got blown out by the saints he threw three picks against the packers. And here they are. Are you little surprised. Kansas city we knew would be here. We felt they be here. Are you a little surprise. Tampa's here i got to say. I'm very surprised you know but but it's a testament to tom brady really. Because i think he elevates. Everyone's play. I think guys see him or hear his name organizations like what we'd really trying to win you know they bring a tom brady and we we really trying to win football games we will try to get to the super bowl and you can just see it. I mean they've got him so that got him some weapons and you gotta have weapons. They got mike evans. Got chris. got. In scotty. Miller got four net. They got him some weapons. And that's important. I don't care how great you are. You know entering the tonio brown. Forget about antonio brown if you don't have the weapons around you you can't perform i mean and that's just a fact it's like it's like an sds a prime example. When i talk about Don't have the weapons. Tom brady does have the weapons in and new offense. The time they knew city you know new coaching staff. Everything is new but that just goes to show how great he really is even still say this is just as an old man football but he knows it too but hey old man is doing it by the way aaron rodgers. One of his teammates came out yesterday on radio and green bay and said oh i think he's hell bent on revenge. He didn't like that jordan. Love pick and players a lot of times. Say nice stuff publicly but privately when you were a player. We're you to be outspoken publicly. You may tell your friends something but aaron. Aaron gone out and taking shot at his team. Were you able to do that where you willing to do that. Most definitely the guy. I mean if i felt somethin' Even by myself. If i feel about me i'm out that guy i call myself up. I feel like the that that you are who you are. You're not a couch. You're not hiding behind as whereas you gotta hide behind the computer. I'm with amran on that. I feel like that that green bay has never really given him what he needs really giving him what he needs. I mean they go out and draft a quarterback from utah state. Not sending nothing against jordan love. But come on man this an rogers. I mean you don't do that. Why would you a slap in his face. Give me some receivers give me more than one. Receiver give me. Give me some offensive. Lineman i mean. Give him something to really work with like untrue when he looks at mahomes over in kansas city like man. If i had all those weapons even a tom brady in tampa. If i had that can do because every player said that colin. I'm telling you opposite on on the sidelines ended at the end. I'm looking man. Look those holes. If i had really do you every play says it. I mean not sure. I'm aaron rodgers late man. If i had some kind of receivables that many weapons could deal with that but i'll say this much. We even made a play for him. We week we call three factor. Yes if they wanted to trade him. Were like no no. we don't want to save. Yeah no the rams have gotten really aggressive. How would you fit in green bay. You think he'd been a good pack. And what have you gone in green bay. At the end they have to make trade. They tried to make a trade for me to green bay. mike i can pass to go at the time on neck was that was that was done. You know it was. I was just. I was done but you know i'm like i don't care where i'm at. If you give me what i need. I think any player feels like if you give me something to work with. I mean i can work with it. I mean especially when i was younger but she can work with it. I mean what i what. I have living rebate Live in southern. California side played fair. Now tell your agent to send me your book. 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Best Of (Anthony Davis, Brady respect, GOAT vs. GOAT, Dallas Cowboys)

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

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Best Of (Anthony Davis, Brady respect, GOAT vs. GOAT, Dallas Cowboys)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host Jenny Taft on today's show. Is there any chance? Anthony Davis will be a Laker by the end of the week. Plus, rob Parker and Eric Dickerson. Joined the show to take the lumps after doubting Tom Brady on the Super Bowl. And does death Prescott belong in the same sentence as Tom Brady, skipped, Shannon. Let's get to it. Back to that the deadline is two days away. The Davis wants to be traded. But it's going to take a ton to land him multiple reports say the Lakers increase their offer to the pelicans yesterday with a package that included Lonzo ball, Brandon Ingram cow coups and two first round picks. Whoa, deports. The pelicans are looking for more including four picks as part of a deal and Ramona Shelburne reports the Lakers are quote, growing increasingly pessimistic about the pelicans willingness to make a deal. All right. We're joined by rob Parker. Good to have you back with us. What's going on skip? I've seen all right. Real. We will get that. Later, but with all of these rumors how much the Lakers in your opinion. Give up eighty they should give up everything and anything kitchen seek they wanna throw Jeanie busting their throw her into the deal, whatever because what they have their anywhere. Did you put a tea or no bus be USS bus? They should give up everything. I mean, seriously LeBron magic they know they can't win with this squad that they have here. It's fraudulent. So if they can somehow some way convinced the pelicans to make this even though I don't believe the trades going to happen. I think they ask for the moon just to see if the Lakers, how far they were push or whatever. But you can't make this deal, especially not now they're way too many other suitors that would be more appealing or have more to offer coming up in the summer or rather than I am how what if the Knicks get the first pick. I'm just saying if the Knicks get the first pick, you think so limits you question, and you honestly believe that Zion Williamson straight up. Anthony Davis was a good deal. I would I would take Anthony Davis. Nobody why would I do know because what they need to we build and have a star that they will have control over for five or six years that would be on. So all I'm saying is that could potentially be in the mix. That's all. Shannon. I'm just saying I'm not gonna take cast-offs never was unlike how cool Sma everybody else in that deal. You basically giving me thirty five win team from year ago. And you see what they've done this year without LeBron. They're not good. And basically, if you're the GM of the pelicans, this is like your wife wakes up with you. She asked you to ask you to a load up the moving truck and drive it over to a new boyfriend's house doesn't ask the Lakers to do that. Really? So it's just not doesn't work. If you get what you want a divorce but driving over. No. Because if I'm a pelican fan, and they make a deal with the Lakers and just give anti David and take your scraps. Basically, you got punked by the Lakers, and they just came and took your guy, and is this a business part of it and saving face even always walking out. And I get I don't want anybody who doesn't wanna play for me here. But I'm not going to help delake just. The same way. San Antonio didn't help the Lakers with Kawai landed. Where did they send him skip? You remember when Brett farve? What did he want to go? When he got traded from Green Bay. He said I wanna go to Minnesota. What did they do train them to the jets? He got to Minnesota. But I'm not sending you there. I'm not going to send you to division rival. So I don't understand why they were doing if I'm the pelicans ask for the moon, and who knows maybe the Lakers that desperate. Maybe they'll give up. Some what you ask for the moon. And not only did I give you the moon up the star to you know, what I'm saying you ask I'd give you everything you've asked for that's laws won't coups. My won't Ingram. I won't do first round second round before MB's Lynn land. Okay. You've had him. Wait a minute. Let me give. Okay. I'll give you if we fail. Okay. If you go to your new job, and you say, I won't this is more my won't my annual salary. I want you to throw in this for clothing allow a lot. I want you to give me six six week vacation is okay. Okay. Okay. And you let. And you let. What the problem, I've given what you wanted needed you to work out my view. I to give you what you asked more still. And then you still Paul's was the problem that tells you really don't wanna make a deal. Exactly. And that's what the that's what's happening. That's why the Lakers are saying. Now, they're pessimistic. There's no there's really not a price too high. Like, I said before new talk about this on numerous occasions kill other than LeBron James, if this was a grocery store, you open it up if whatever you want or visit department store pick from the good stuff. Don't hire. In case anything that's in the lot cases. You welcome to for Anthony days. So I don't really know what this is all they have skipped. They don't have anything. Yes. The Knicks might they might. Okay, nick. You don't get the first hand they get the same trade that they're offering in the summer channel. What would change if I get to look at all the other offers, and then come back to the Lakers this still going to be there? There's no there's no rush. Okay, outcome back bag you still want him. You know, what you're saying? You also banking all not carry said earlier in the season. He stood up in front of all that fan had little fanfare skip. I'm deb. Knowing the year at the beginning. I you said death really he said my plan is to re-sign here if you'll have me, okay. That's not. I'm doubling the sign rights. What did he say last week? He said that July. That's a whole I know not whether or not they have I don't really know what else to Lakers can offer. Skip to sweeten this deal. They give them everything they've asked for statue this. They can have the Magic Johnson or the Korean statue that's out. And maybe even a banner there's nothing else to Lakers have either. The pelicans want to do the deal or they don't they don't because they don't want us and Anthony Davis where he wants to go. It's a simple as that. What is Rich Paul made clear to everybody? Anthony Davis wants to play with LeBron James period end of story. That's never going to be quite as happy anywhere else as he will be with LeBron Giresse. So if you wait until the summer, the market could start to cool on Davis league-wide because it's if he whether would he really resigned, I know the Paul George gamble paid off. But he's different. He's cut from differ. A lot of people criticize okay see for making that deal. Everybody knew said Paul George was going into the Lakers. Why would you trade form he's not going to stay? And what happened? He got there and liked it. It's like Toronto making the same thing with Coa Coa with why goes to the clippers. Then what you're not what I'm saying is worth a try and for some team. They might say I don't care. It's worth how much of a try. Are you going to give up your stud stars? You're young. You're gonna give up. Jalen Brown for first of all for star is gonna take Jalen Brown. And Jason Tatum has to be involved into deal. No doubt about it. If you don't have carry wash. Why would today? First of all his dad said he doesn't wanna go Rich Paul put it out there that he doesn't he's not going to reside with both the so why would you why would you go to Boston with no Jalen Brown? No, Jason Tatum in no carry you, could you could go to LA in a year and a half. And you notice the reason that the Lakers despot is LeBron clock is ticking. He's getting older bothered with it. There's no secret about that. Here's why part ways with my friend. Rob Parker partways mini with rob Parker. But in this case, these Laker kids once they get out from under Luke Walton they are going to flourish. They would flourish under Alvin gentry. He's much more of a player's coach. I don't like Luke Walton. And I told you that from the start and he's the wrong guy, especially to coach Lonzo who's. Ego can be a little tricky AAU baby. Get a little spoiled by his father coming up. Lonzo ball is going to turn into a star someplace are star. And if you go back and look at what these kids did to Oklahoma City at Oklahoma City. It's about three weeks ago and just go back and look at the box score. They all have star potential coups has star potential Brandon Ingram star potential and your man's zoo bots. He can be a starting five on a good team in this league. I'm not saying he's going to make the all star team. He can be a credible starter and manning the post in this league because he's getting stronger by the dribble. It should be Houston to go shoot be Houston in lonzo's been putting up big numbers. He's putting up good numbers in that game. It was Houston game that he kissed. They helped me though, skipped if you're right about that. Then you got me. But when he's right. He can be really, right? This is a troubled team with Luke Walton trying to run the show. I don't know if he's trying. To to sort of Lord it over these kids to show that I'm I'm Bill Walton's kid. I played in this league. Don't you? Remember, I played with Kobe Bryant I one rings Gobi Bryant, right? Right. And yet there's something wrong. I'm not sure Luke's gonna last through the all star break, my point is that if you give me those four if you throw in zoo bots to the stores open, and if you throw in a couple of more picks that is a hall, man. That's that is worth Anthony Davis because you put those kids if you if you can keep Jewish Randall keep narrative, and obviously drew holiday is is a star two way player he can defend as well as he can score. And he's more of a two guard. Which is why lavar has well would he worked will Rondo he did work wealth Rondo and he'd worked? Great with Lonzo. And I don't know what lavar is doing except that lavar doesn't want him in the New Orleans. Smallest market in the NBA. It's number thirty of all TV market, right? The media marketing. And so is that the problem or is it that the flights too far for lavar? Even phoenix. So why would he want even Phoenix with the worst team in basketball? I don't get that in the west. So you're at the bottom of the west, and you what Lonzo to go play with that. I don't get it either. But I just don't see skip the the public relations nightmare. I mean, New Orleans already been to heck with the job in Super Bowl right near the championship game. And now here to star player doesn't wanna beat their, you know, next thing you find mice hair and the Gumbo. I don't know what else could be worse in the wall. Risley? We tried to handle this respectfully behind closed doors. We told you we weren't residing which. Oh, look at look at the number. He's having a career year twenty nine points, thirteen rebounds, four four four two to steal teammate. No, miss Benton. He's fine. Oh, he loves it here. Antedated who will not resign long her? You see what you hear? But but but you're asking basically, you'd say into New Orleans you saying you wanna do a nice behind closed doors, but there was a gun in my back. I got I felt on. We'll make a deal. All I know LeBron James wants this to happen. It's going to happen. It's not going to happen. Skip. It's going to happen Thursday. No way. No, how they're gonna make a trade with them the eastern deadline about the patriot whatever we'll. We ask you how I've been waiting to ask you if you could finally give Tom Brady, some we're a little credit to give you some time to think about it. We'll be back with that next have. Have. Well, those patriots they are champions again. And rob Parker is here with us, which means needs to be some. You don't even know what's in the Cup. Need to know how you can explain another Super Bowl win Tom Brady? Can you say the Super Bowl win for the New England Patriots Tom Brady was there for the ride? I get it. But Tom Brady should get down on his hands in these. And thank Jared golf that. There was a quarterback who played worse than him, Shannon. That was the worst performance by a man in a since Adam west pay Batman. John was awful. I mean, he had a man wide open the end zone. And this is the thing. Skip you could give Brady all credit. Well, what about the drive and three passes? And that all that. It was all about that about it. Why didn't they give them the MVP? Instead good question to the guy. He was thrown of football too. And didn't even have a touchdown. That's how poorly Brady played. This was supposed to be skipped a coronation turned into a slumber party and Brady just happened to be. There was not that guy's skip. He looked like a forty one year old guy. You know, he looked like that Super Bowl night. He'll pay matting when von Miller hand-delivered a parting gift at the Super Bowl to remember twenty fifth time I was at that game. Paid manning. One hundred forty one yards a pig to fumbled Brady Abed pick on his first throw in the Super Bowl. He had a fumble. Oil heat just one that good. I mean, he really wasn't. And that's why the first three and a half quarters negated. Even that last drive. It still wasn't good enough for them to say he was the MVP that would have been crowning for Tom Brady to win is six and also be the MVP and lead that team Bill Belichick. Help them out you re Bill ballot. Check last year and help them with the defense. They gave up three point three three points. The lowest point total of losing team since nineteen seventy-one the dolphins. So where does that great or is Jared Goff that bad? No, Jerry Goff was terrible. I'm just saying. Okay. But Tom Brady had all the opportunity in the world of put up a couple of points. He could have been the MVP. Couldn't do it. Even the writers who love him. Couldn't do. What writers who they love Tom Brady? Don't love. They couldn't do it. Because you know, what they know? They would've had to give it to at least inventive play out would given us to the whole defend. This should give it a step on Gil. He had. Big interception and any also will call white at three pass defense and five tackles for me. This was a lotta time. Great bill. Coach performance thought. Brian floor is did unbelievable job of calling the game. Good. He's got a head coaching gotta head coaching job. Because I get when you hold a team thirty points on what they normally get that saying something you hold him one hundred to one hundred sixty one yard what they normally get that saying something and to make them look that in it looked the Rams had no business. I forget being in the Super Bowl because you can go banks as well. They shouldn't have been super because the bad call. They made the ramp. Look like they didn't even belong in the playoffs. That's how bad they made. The Rams look and for them to come out there. And like I say Tom Brady did not play his best game. I think this one of his most poorly played Super Bowl games. They won. He had the drive at the end. But that deep it's performance overshadowed, even that drives gift wait, always does a great job. Tom Brady does he did a great job early getting pressure on them the shut the rundown for the most part except except skipped when they needed to get the ball back there with four minutes left in the ballgame. And they went what seven eight nine street runs and the Rams had no answer for that. They ended up getting the ball back. But it was really, Shannon, really Sodhi. Michelle could have been in that mix for 'em VP average five point two yards carrying how'd the only touchdown. So he's another guy. I know he can go over one hundred yards for five point to a carries. Good enough. You know, I'm weary of this part. It's been going on year after year. Two thousand six by to warn you. I try to tell you. So you just won't give in or give it up. Shannon has a certain degree little bit. Tom Brady now has six rings. Thanks to six game winning drives in the fourth quarter overtime. That's all time special. That's all time. Clutch. That's that's all time Tom Brady. And yet the Brady hate just grows and grows by the victory. And I for one don't get it. Because I see through all the off field stuff. I don't care about any Brady off the field. But it is palpable. The Brady hate in. That's why the Super Bowl rating was what the worst and ten years and tenue cardinals. Crazy. People are sick and tired of patriots number one. But somewhere in that mix as Tom Brady. I don't disagree with you. I think there was a patriot. I gotta ego Radi for team I have a number of friends in the L A area. And beyond. But, but I know some actors here, and I know some rappers here and I heard from all of them over the weekend. They are sick to death of Tom Brady sick to death. And I say why its greatness on display? It's like I'm honored to sit and watch this debt perform because this is greatness, how special it's special what he did up against Wade Phillips. He's got two players. He can throw to one's a former seventh-round pick who played quarterback in college named Julian Edelman who's coming off major knee reconstruction more game suspension PD that is true. You see we went from PD suspension, the MVP super and otherwise get in hall of fame. He's also throwing to a man on his last legs the shell of themself who used to be rob gronkowski who probably played his last game in the Super Bowl. Those are targets because you're to quote, unquote, deep threats Chris HOGAN, Phillip Dorset catch zero balls in the Super Bowl. In the one guy you could rely on as your little safety valve little James white coming out of the backfield. Wade Phillips said no you cannot have him one catch for five yards. And yet when it was time Tom Brady finally said, okay, I'm going to crack your code, and he made four straight throws that won the football game effectively with that one community MVP. Well to me, I would have given him the MVP just off that one drive. I don't disagree with your defense apprentice, if you could give it to the whole defense, I'm not sure step on Gilmore did enough to say, oh, he stood completely out because the one pick is just just threw it up for grabs. And I don't know if that was a special interception and yet in the end, I don't even care about the MVP. This guy's got six championships. And yet I'm hearing from all these guys who are big people in their areas, and they have no respect for him. And I try to see through it. And I say is that the Trump hat the make America great hat that how many years ago is that like four twenty six. But but the owner Robert Kraft is the best friend of Donald Trump yet. You you like the everybody likes Robert Kraft, right everybody. I mean, he's he's on the criminal Justice reform. He hanging out. Started nice car to be okay. And well, he's the first publicly my closest friend in the world is that guy that nobody likes? I appreciate that. I get that. But Tom Brady had the hat in his locker one moment. And he's disqualified is not just Zelzal at the. Oh, it's the it's the, Aww shucks even thing where he made it like he didn't know what was going on with the Neal. And remember like, oh, no. There was some some had happened like a couple of his teammates. Did he acted as if he didn't even know? And I think it's just disingenuous, and you know, what comes off some of the private wait a second. Michael Jordan, said leave me out of all this. I don't wanna Michael Jordan, but bash during his playing days people didn't like Michael Fay. But people still watched him. Hey, they still loved him. They bashed him. But I went back and forth with our man Nellie. And I said didn't use love watching Jordan, even when he won his six ring because the interest grew towards six rings while the interest wanes on Tom Brady. Thanks thanksgiving. What let's just say for the sake of argument because a lot of people knew this was going to be Michael Jordan's coordination. What because they're like, oh, we gotta deal with Tom again next year. Oh, well, they'll be back again. And I'm surprised because sibling that every year. He's a top two top three jersey Ciller. I mean, how many different patriots jersey could you possibly? I don't know. But that has that makes no sense to me. I'm that's in patriot natio- Vicky about every jersey morning NFL, America. And they already have is yours. Twenty years ago. Stream patriot burnout and fatigue because they just what was Brady slogan that he yelled to the crowd before they left. We're still here. They are saying they're still air go away. Right. Why maybe some people think he's disingenuous? I mean pay. I mean, you get paid manning. I got that. But yet I've never heard one ex team mate. Oh, they love it. But skipping Lee said it when he does the all and gee whiz guard. He's he's not I mean like like Peyton. I mean, I think pay people really think Peyton is a guy that would come tomorrow. And then he has an plugged in. He has a model for why they're not like us couldn't have no model. Hey makes money than you. What is the network report two weeks ago? He walked in the facility and said to no one in particular. I'm the baddest M F on the planet. Right. And he deep down. That's what he and. That's how he play maybe a little nerdy, Tom. But also that Tom is what we saw. And we have thought he was for joining us. I have time to sit through. Radio. Lebron do have something in common. They both been to their respective championships nine times, but one big difference Brady just won his six title on Sunday while LeBron's. Well, he only has one three after Brady won another Super Bowl. Lebron gave the ultimate props to Brady with this tweet calling him the goat with six ring emojis, so Shannon. What what do you make this tweet? What do you make sure? In. Lebron is acknowledging Brady's greatness. This is not a new opinion for him. If you remember after that twenty eight three comeback in what would that twenty sixteen? He did the same thing. He tweeted something that that Brady was the goat. He even posted almost like a salute him saluting on the uninterrupted of him saluting Tom Brady. Greatness acknowledges greatness understand greatness game as as we say game recognize game. So, you know, from one to another you don't say. Something some guilty like how? You walking down the street and animals woke up to one another dog to walk other. Like, oh, yeah. You don't know. Yeah. You'll you live around here too. Yeah. In a big dog knowledge is a big dog. Yeah. It's all like, okay, Brian. You you go. Yeah. You got a big you. You got a beard. Loom don't they the nobody doing? Number eight and a beer. The real deal. Yeah. But if you would understand. But anyway, I should've worn your goat, man. No, you shouldn't. That would have been on time. On that that I just didn't want to rub it in your. Yes. You you totally would respected flight you or in across the LeBron. Yeah. Lebron does understand that. When you look at Tom Brady, thirteen AFC championship games nine Super Bowl, always in contention in even when Tom Brady isn't in contention Looper bowl, the AFC team that is that does represent the AFC probably had to beat him to get there in LeBron James, you know, he might not always win it. But when he was in the Eastern Conference give. If he wasn't you had to beat him to get there. And now there's a good chance he might not be an NBA finals blue ever come the west go probably have to go through him. So in other words, he's well unless he's just watching the whole playoffs from home. I don't know. It's possible you feel comfortable. Still possibly that eight possible. And the thing is LeBron. Also skip. By any metric when you look at Tom Brady what he's been do of his career. Tom did not play particularly. Well, yes. That last let the touchdown winning drive. He made some clutch throws. But throughout the entirety of the game. Tom them play football. He threw an interception. He's a couple of passes through to sixty six that the standard. Is that what we're gonna do for Tom Brady it through from polo got it through for five. Oh, five a guy threw for four something and another four something now to sixty two if the goal six, okay? Two hundred thirty tone for one twenty four. But this is Wade Phillips and that defense that firepower to sixty six is highly respectable. Go ahead. The eight if I know home. Those get so so all I'm doing is. I'm comparing Tom Brady Tom Brady. That's all I'm saying in LeBron James who just giving him say brook from one to another. One goat to another. So I I saw this for the first time, and I saw all those ring emojis and two three four five six six ring emojis. And I thought so LeBron is saying six rings equals goat. Correct. So then I don't know why my mind just wondered back to this guy. I used to know and love this guy. Michael Jeffrey Jordan in he wants six rings in six tries. It was six in BP in. So I started thinking we'll does that mean that those six rings? Also equal goat in basketball because I two plus two equals six to me. I know what you stop the him. Because I think LeBron inadvertently authorized the basketball goat being no J. No. Even even when Tom skip what you're trying to future trying to do. And I caught on early. Glad I did. See what you try to you? Try to equate who ever have the most rings. And that's not rings is not that it is harming banner in goaded because there are more players and even the more complex player. Bill. Russell has five more rings then by Jordan. He has his many MVP's as my Jordan. So let's talk about the player who has only three ring. Yes. Name LeBron James who fairly recently said on more than an athlete sitting with his guys he grew up with obviously. So he was pretty full of himself because he's speaking to his preaching to acquire that loves him go. Yeah. Congregation. They accept and he talked about coming back in two thousand sixteen in the finals on Golden State from three to one down in the quote was that right there made me the greatest of all time. They meaning the warriors where the greatest team ever assembled in the way, we came back was really something special. Said the guy who thinks he's the goat. Who is the Foget who is real LeBron's James stop us. Oh three how can how can with a record of three and six in the finals? How can you make the case that that right there made you the greatest player ever because that greatest team ever assembled immediately? According you've talked about the antidote several times, but Draymond green runs into the parking lot in tears and calls. Kevin Durant and says h u s please come and say us, right? And when I look back at that Golden State team Steph Klay, Draymond I'm thinking greatest team ever symbol now that I can see it with K D. And now that I can see it with DeMarcus cousins, I say that is firepower that's nuclear that team in two thousand sixteen was was not that great. Okay. When you say assemble. Decay D when he joined that team the next two years. Did they win seventy three games? Are they gonna win every better? Yes. Are they going to win seventy three games? Because the reason I think they learned their lesson. Doesn't matter. How many games you? Well, my door and has the arguments as well with the still the greatest team because we went seventy two in ten and we won the title. You can't say you the greatest team when you're seventy three and nine and you lose up three one the question that I have. And I've always asked this is it better to get swept in the first round or get knocked out before you get to the finals or the Super Bowl and have an intact resume in championship games. Or is it better to get there and potentially not win. Michael, Jordan, LA the first round exit. A Michael Jordan got a law. Got a lot of ails before. He got to the finals once he broke through how many first round exit city. He had none. He should have won eight straight. But he was forced to take to your vow. Eight straight our with a pretty much closed the cave that would've give you when you get no argument with skit we can't do hypothetical because I believe had and Kevin love not got hurt. I'm LeBron James and sitting pretty so I look back at the twenty sixteen warriors if I just go asphalt on if I go park on you. And I say we're at the park, and you're choosing upside skins and shirts, and you're looking at these guys, and you see little staff and medium-sized clay and medium-sized dream on they tops on your list. You're gonna pick them fast in the park. I pick picking love. Well, how about Kevin Durant? Once he got there goes gazelle with that monster, they'll get on the Marcus cousins, I want him but hold on right? Kevin opportunity to face. Lebron James that you remember? Because he's in the position that the Golden State Warriors in the violence. He was three one in the Western Conference. Final would another game on his home court. It what he do will in weight. I he had the ultimate liability named Russell west Kevin's is that was a liability George not so much, and he went to be okay. He went to bed. So now because you can say wet. Terry. We you we did because you saw those bricks shooting. Did you not see those brick? I saw little point guard quote him like giving Schneider put that on Russ. The let's look back at the twenty sixteen finals five six and seven obviously Draymond green had to get suspended or this isn't going to happen. So he missed game five. But then what happened is Steph curry and games five six and seven because he was a two time MVP, right? And I look at what happened he had seven assists in those three games to twelve turnovers that good. No, he came up much smaller than he actually is about six feet. Throw you won't. Ron Ron white Steph curry game seven how about this. He shot six for nineteen at home at oracle. He shot four of fourteen from three any made. It the freeze on one time and shot one free throw in the fourth quarter of that game. This is the game to win the championship at home. Steph curry one for six in the fourth quarter and one for five from three Zach good. That's what you're up against because Steffes playoff numbers have never quite lived up to his regular season that one. But if you look at the last two years Steph has been fantastic in the play in the finals, but Kevin drain has been fantastic or. Yeah. Yes. You could save by Kevin ranch the Bom. No, I don't. I mean, he was the difference. May he made them invincible because he is the best player on the planet. Right now is always LeBron used to be known even playing anymore, but whatever play tonight. Okay. But you know. How can you have the audacity to make the contention that just because you came back on that Golden State team that made you the greatest player ever because you actually admitted through the six rings that image as the go. No, that's what he's saying. Six rings equals. Goat put at no MJ Tom Brady. No, no. He did in effect in the lines. He's saying Brady was the goat. When it came back twenty eight three and he put the video out on uninterrupted about acknowledging one grow to another Brooke and pass give walking by like. So do you have the audacity to stand behind your claim that LeBron James is still the basketball goat? What what what has changed? What is it? The LeBron goes aware. Cabling located right now. The win put on three pound powers hall muscle. I think that was way earlier this year. I don't think that was lately out those capital the deal. So what I want to know is Buddha. Did you somehow scrub his legacy in the last month? Or so did you wipe out the meltdown against Dallas in the final? So did you scrub and cleanse the meltdown in the last three minutes against my Spurs in game six in which he had three unforced error attornal Awo? Did they win the game? Because you don't do that. With Tom Brady winter Brady of the ball interception. All you say he wanted to game. Don't do that skill. I know bit. He won the game this time rail and save the game. And then they hold on hold on. Okay. What about that twenty? When when braided through that pick six okay but Brady can't play defense. Lebron can play K play offense. Okay. But what did Tom do in the fourth quarter against? The legion of both one hundred twenty four yards to tie. What LeBron doing all the time in game? He was good. But my team. Psychological anal, wait a minute. Why would they be cook? Because remember you got upset it LeBron James being cooked in game one of the last year. So you can't swim thing to took a team that was the prohibitive favorite to overtime. You got a chance the game's going to start over and you melt down before overtime, the San Antonio, Spurs were the favorite. Yeah. Okay. Five K with twin? Okay. Well, they they coughed it will give you that. They thought they had it because LeBron Lebrat three long rebound out to Chris Bosh shoot sweetly to the corner. And then Ray Allen save LeBron's legs. Maybe why you do this. I doing anything rate. Did you never say Malcolm Butler, save this legs? Can't you never fake coach Bela checks fame, this one that great that was game plan, but Brian floor is did a unbelievable job of calling this game. You'll never say that you'd never say been a Terry with those who may club field forty Clinton's. But Tom Brady completed five or six passes in a row after feel question. If adamant Terry miss that. Are we talking about those five passes that he completed after -lutely not? So the words military say this Bain show. Everybody has to do his job John last beyond John greatest clutch shot ever. Okay. I've never seen like. Before. Are you saying Adam Terry's didn't have Adam unitarian got three clutch kicks L? I know. But it's part. It's what you're trying to set up to happen. Nobody was trying to set up your warning four three. We're trying to what we're trying to make it three because we need the title game time is running out. We're trying to get a three three. Okay. Missed it badly so badly that it was goodly. You say anything about those three that he hit three he hit three threes in the fourth quarter. He had sixteen points. I don't think he had three at one late. No ES three free this meeting, and guess what's betas? They they were down. Ten see? That's what you feel the he heating tell you that unit. They were down tampon. Lebron James scored sixteen of fifty on another thing. I mean. Yeah. No, the six twenty to thirty had twenty three six at a time in the next year helped me out my memory fogs. Do I what did Michael Jordan's team ever get blown off the floor in the finals by a record finals margin? That's what my Spurs did deliberations team. If you've got the best player on the planet. How can you lose by a record margin vinyls because? Team. Really? Yeah. A bunch of spare parts coming off the bench little Patty mills. Timid alley. Hold on. What about what about how long are you saying that Chris Bosh and D waiting just like you say LeBron did not fulfil his obligation in the first finals against a Dallas. Are you saying that Chris Bosh way fulfilled their obligation in that playoffs? Chris Bosh was pretty good. I can't speak for Dwayne. But and LeBron just he just cut bait with his best friend left by this twenty eight seven six LeBron average in the final demand played like a boom, I didn't say a balmy just got blown off the floor. Michael Jordan were not allowed that to happen. We got mentally toughest versus mentally fragile. Whatcha while the high power Rams offense got shut down by the patriots on Sunday. They scored a season low three point. Revolt re asks it really Jared Goff struggled arena. I'm Sean McVay said he got out coached joined by the ram Basseterre. Eric. In shocking. I'm so proud of my friend Eric Dickerson for showing up today. But he is unaccompanied for the first time here because what happened to many he may I couldn't get him up this. He's just can't go. Over can't get over it. But I'm over. Well, I have to ask you, Eric what happened to your ram Sunday? Did you ever see the movie face off with nNcholas cage idea? This is why wouldn't one fancy and I it's perfect. He said that I think Jeff Fisher Costa had game and put his face on, Sean. That's how bad our office. Will. I gotta say I mean, I gotta congratulate Robert Kraft and the patriots. 'cause I tell you I think a lot of rabid craft. And I'm not a big fan of San someone is the best or the greatest anything. I think you have to go in errors who do you like my guy was OJ Simpson. You know, some love Jim that was my guy. But I've gotta say Bill Belichick greatest coach that I've ever seen come about. I I gotta give it up. I mean, that's the facts, you know, in that football. I talked to Todd Gurley the night before the game cinematheques see how he was feeling. He's I'm one hundred percent. I'm ready to go. And I talked to Richardson hall of Famer Rickey Jackson, and my good friend Harvey on that I play with immune all asking the same question. Why didn't they run tarred girly? What was up with that? I mean, I just don't understand why we didn't run the football. That is one of the things that is kind of perplex me all year sometime with all these all these new coaches, they don't want to run the. Football. They get caught up in in this newfangled offense. We're gonna we're gonna do this. We're going to do all these kind of things, and I just didn't see the same Rams football team. I really didn't and was disappointing. Yes. It was you. Punt the ball eight times we never gotten a red zone. Once we have to the school. We had to kick a fifty three yard field goal. We just never got on on on pace. And I gotta give that credit to Bill Belichick. I mean, he did to the Rams with no one else was able to do even we plan bad. And to me it was just a game that we never got on track. And we got never got on track because of coach check, and and Sean McVay, I gotta say a young coach. He was playing checkers and Bill Plante chess. You know that that's what it looked like. And and for me, you know, it's frustrating. But I gotta say I'm glad I don't play 'cause that's great that night after if I was playing I slept it off. And you know, the film play every he doesn't know. No, I have. But. Loosely? You just do, ma'am. But I have to give it up to coach check in the patriots. And they they beat us. I'm disappointed that Sean McVay didn't make any adjustments. I saw no adjustment. He just came in with a game plan. And when that game plan didn't work he just tried to make it work. Either you remember you growing up, and you say Coachman, they got like ten guys the line of screaming, they go work. They weren't listen. No, no is not gonna work. I don't care what anybody says. I don't care what tiger tiger Lee was not healthy tiger had three rushing attempts against the saints. Todd Todd Gurley didn't have the explosiveness that eighteen yard run. That's a thirty yard run targets healthy Tigers more explosive than what I've seen him over the land you buying that. I'm not eating. I'm not buying this already. I'm not buying it. I just you know, he said to me, I'm healthy, you know, Sam how this time of season, you know, your body's. Out say, let me finish equality. Do you ever ride the bike stitching everybody when use the player not win had? Not win. Had Tigers more time on the bike than it did on the field. I know that's there's that's what bothers you ever. See a running back lose his confidence. Did you ever see a head coach suddenly decide Layton season? I got this other guy. I love this other guy, and I'm gonna ride this other guy. And all sudden your study your star is not sure who is anymore. He came in tippy toeing to me like he wasn't hitting the holes with the thority in the confidence. He used to again. Maybe he's protecting the injury a little bit. But great bag. Hey, I've seen. Player lose. But I've told not great. I I don't think he lost this. I think the one thing is sometimes these coaches deal. They'll wanna they wanna try to back thing. That's the thing to do. I gotta get a Dallas Cowboys credit Zeke Elliot when he's healthy. He's no care of the ball. That will be like plan LeBron James in eight minutes of the championship game and game seven what's wrong with you. You're not hurting. What why why are you sitting? I mean, that's what I don't get something like not playing Malcolm Butler, the whole Super Bowl like the whole host oboe. Maybe I don't know something like that. And then give it off into line. They didn't really do anything. All they did was run a couple of stunts and the Rams offensive line. Couldn't put it up Jared Goff with under pressure. He was on the more pressure on Sunday. Then I had seen Jerry golfing any point in time this season. And it was it was in the running game basically took five guys shut down and running game. Didn't have any run bliss. They went crown the line of scrimmage. They said we're going to stop your. Run with five guys up for six guys up front to leave the back end to take away the passing game. And they shut it off. I was so disappointed because the ram on it. The Rams were voted best offers football. They did not look like the best offerings. Nielsen not in the run game. And definitely not in the passing game. So I was very disciplined maybe the patriots didn't give them enough tails. Cowboy's back. Let me ask you this. If somebody would've told you e they're going to hold the New England Patriots thirteen points. What would you say? We we don't wait you. Right. If you say what? Brady said one year ago on that night. If you told me going into this game, I'm going to score thirty three points. We're gonna win big game. Right. Exactly. Bill. Check, David forty one. So is it my turn Mr. Dickerson? I am not going to gloat today. I am not going to rub it in. I did try to warn. I didn't try to the truth is in very what happened in that football game. Was you got Brady everybody gets Brady in the Super Bowl because he's now won six of them with six fourth quarter overtime game winning drives. That's astoundingly. Great. That's all time clutch. And he did it to you again, albeit against this is the other part of the question you left out your defensive coordinator was really good in this game really really had the goods. He's had Tom Brady's number. He had his number in that twenty fifteen AFC championship game. And he had firepower in the middle of. His defense and coming off the edges and he had to shutdown corners, and they did a masterful job of containing Tom Brady until it was time. And finally, Tom Brady cracked the code with four straight past place that just got him. He just he just found the openings. He got gronk on Ebba calm. And then he got Julian over the middle on an option rally, and then he throws it outside to Rex Burkhead. And then he gets gronk up the same with the signature pass of Tom Brady's postseason career because the more. I watched the gronk pass. It's it's he had to drop it down the chimney among three of your guys, they covered it pretty well and gronk made a nice catch. And that was the football game. That was that was it wound up like that. I can't give Bill Bill. Check nearly as much credit as you guys. Because I disc credit you're young head coach you got to figure that out. And I describe it you're young quarterback because I gotta tell you. He went deer in headlights in this game. He got overwhelmed by the. Magnitute? He got off to a rocky start. And he could not get it back. His confidence got shattered in this game. I'm giving credit because he did throw the two balls to Brandin cooks that could have changed this game, especially the second one brain Kosheh. And then we might be looking at an overtime game. I still think you would have gotten Brady in overtime game. But in this case, Bill bell. Check didn't do anything shockingly clever where I said, oh, I didn't see that coming. They played defense. Just the way they played against the chargers. And just the way they played at Kansas City. They did mush rush all night. They've been doing it the whole playoffs where they just mill at the line of screaming, and they're all standing up, and you're like who's going to do what? Well, you just gotta figure it out, and you should fear. You had two weeks to figure that out. Right. Right. And you write that they didn't do a lot of run blitzes. They just knew we're not going to let them bounce this outside and everytime girl. He bounced got two of them one the holding call really killed on that one. And that was a Fanta. I'm holding call on John Sullivan. But otherwise they held your run in check. And they put the game back in your young quarterbacks hands and to use your words yesterday. He was he was garbage, man. He had hard game. You know, anytime a team that can run the football. Like the Rams can you want their quarterback to win it? I'm not letting C J. I'm not letting tiger win this game. I'll like they did against Dallas. I'm not gonna let that happen. If you coach Belichick says, I'm not gonna let your best weapons now if you beat Jared Goff if you three hundred fifty yards and three touchdowns I can live with that. But I tell you what you're not going to do. You're not running for two hundred. I and then to me we we only ran the ball about seventeen times. I mean, that's. Frustrate. I get a patriots credit. The patriots stuck to their run. We even one. Run because one thing would run the it really is then the play acting really works. We've you play action. It wasn't like they they're not running. Yard. Yeah. We're not. We never committed to really run the football. And that has been the word with me coach McVeigh sometime he just gets away from a to soon was too fancy. And to me that hurt us in that football. What did you do to my Cowboys? How random today? I was so impressed because he loves to throw the football. But it was working, and he stuck with it. But if he ran them off the field one hundred seventy three, but you remember E D late in the season against the cheese. I think girly only had eleven carries. Okay. You can abandon the run. If you throwing the ball with three fifty four hundred yards. Okay. Five different. But when you're not completing passes or they're hitting your quarterback. You gotta change it up. You got you got girly back there. It made the most money of the highest paid running back in NFL history. And he cares and those ten when it's not. I know running back you gotta get into a rhythm. Yeah. You can't cared about to to hear about three here. You know, what you gotta get four. Give me five six c said he was going out play. Well, it's because C J Anderson went from blessing to curse because McVay fell in love with him enough that he was at least going to share the load right on Sunday night. And that was it was working like they did in the final two games to give Dallas. Okay. But I gotta go with some. I gotta go to you got got you there. And I believe that you know, you Todd should have been getting that ball enough enough. Like, I say if if he cares about twenty five times and we lost that football game. I say, you know, what I'm good with that some good the Cowboys. If you say Z cared about twenty eight times and we lost the football game. Because that's our best guy which I best. Kate him got what forty seven, but he do hand twenty care. Twenty cares is still at twenty. Okay. I mean defense can stop off. And so that's what it is. So my question is how good is Nick foles because one year ago Sunday night, he put forty one on Bill checks defense. So how good is that much better than Jared Goff and McVeigh? While say wasn't that game? You know, the play Colin was really really suspect. I got a call like I it was really bad really Jared Goff. He got hit a lot. I mean a young quarterback. I mean causing no quarterback wants to get hit. And he hit his rush the interception. The he he's got to step into don't take the hit get it over the defendants head. He should never do that. They can't Vero blitz and the guys off. Okay, go ball at the gap plan. Ten yards off in Iran. Harmon was in his face. Couldn't step throw a Patrick Chung when I'm like, okay. We gotta shot the ball. But what are they back next year of cost hippie back? I'll be with that we will be bad sharing. We'll be Cowboys get back up as you. Do you? Do they play the Cowboys because they wanted to be next? I don't. Out very, well, regarded anyone. The patriots to countlessly. The patriots have you'll be. Oh, he he what he won't be branding. Right. Then. I'll I'll take a case on my Cowboys against the rand. I'll take the Rams might struggle. Okay. Well, I'll take it on that. That's. You're going to be good. I got I got gotta get home. So I can just I gotta get him out of being I got. I got. Eric. It's good to have you all season. We've enjoyed. Mark Cooper has only been with the Cowboys since October. But he showed his loyalty to his quarterback Mari was asked if he could imagine playing with Tom Brady and said, quote, no, I don't wanna play with Tom Brady. I want to beat Tom Brady I wanna play with deck Prescott. And I believe that we can get the job done, Shannon. Do you like those comments from Amari Cooper? Because so many times what we here who would wanna play with Tom Brady. No, no, no, no, no. I got I'm playing with the guy. I wanna play. I believe in that. And I believe we can get to the heights in which the patriots celebrated wasn't and had this year. The I believe we can go there. And I want to go to that level with that guy. That's gonna love that. Because you who wouldn't wanna play with this guy, and who wouldn't want to coach that guy. I'm good. I'm good right here. I got the number four I'm want to ride with him. And when you don't buy that. But you like that he said it I mean. Do I love that? He said, I mean, what would the votes they? Now, you say he believes that. No, you don't think that. That's a big. No right there. We just got a big we really demand you. Hold on the man takes average receivers. And now we're gonna talk about this later got we're talking about they should be in the hall of fame. That is okay magin. We saw ready for spectacular before he got there. But we saw the heights in which Randy scale playing with that guy. So we know what playing with great quarterbacks. We know the extension in how the level that they can take even great players look at Jerry Jerry was a great player, Jerry Rice, right but plan with Montana and playing with Steve Young. I agree with that. So I love that. He said that because he could have given you the old cliche. Skip who wouldn't want to play with Tom Brady. He goat. Now. I'm good. I'm good, right? Where I I got old that that he the leader. If you look at all the play that we needed to make when the rubber needed. Meet the road old that press got within the center of everything. Thank you. I love everything. Thank you. Thank you. A lot. See? A very end about you. I don't know it. These just might have been the greatest comments in the history of teammate comments about team. And what I really loved was when the questioner dared to ask as so many have are you convinced that Dak Prescott s- a franchise quarterback. And he's like what he was offended by the question. And he said, of course, you don't see that. He's a winner. I loved AC he's a born leader from what I can see he's going to put it all on the line, which he does every game every play in every way because he can run with the football, which you're going to come out of the reported, you I'm offended that you bended that I asked you that offensive question. I do the rest of the rest of the quote is in all the close games. We had this year. He was the one making those big plays leading us to victory. I just like everything about him. So allow me to reiterate that over decks three years. He is one the second most games in the NFL by Tom Brady. How Thomas Edward Patrick Brady? Well about that who knew who knew that is that impressive. And I'd say that eilly it's very impressive. So let me get the street. You would rather play with the second best as opposed to dump past. Yes, he does wanna play with the second best because he believes in the second best. That's his leader. That's his Tom Brady. And he truly believes that that Prescott can be in the Tom Brady category as far as winning football games. And who knows that who who even has? Kept touch with the fact that Dak Prescott in his first three seasons. Leads all football in game winning drives with fourteen I'm talking about in the regular season. Obviously Tom Brady just won his sixth ring with his sixth game winning drive in the fourth quarter overtime of Super Bowls. But who knew that over the first three years of Dax career, his sixty six point one completion percentage set a record for NFL quarterbacks who knew that. Well, you did I did. But I'm the only one in the world who knows that? And so that brings us to what we just witnessed on Sunday night. It is still painfully clear to me that that Prescott is clearly better than Jared Goff. And I told you this before those two teams met, and then I got to sit here yesterday for two and a half hours. And here you call Jared Goff Super Bowl, garbage and worse. Don't chicken poop. Yeah. Right. Guess what? How many years? Debt? I got bit in the NFL three how many years ago? Three win win is deck Prescott sue boat. Well, I don't know maybe next year Mashad because you told me that Zeke is better than a Todd Gurley. His office land is better than the Rams off his land adak Prescott is better than and Brandon offense. The offense. Amari Cooper is better than Brandin cooks. He is. Okay. Yeah. They got to Amari's on their team. Right. What did not nouveau? Well. Okay. So Jared Goff had Boy Genius calling us plays up to the Super Bowl. And then you said he was chicken poop in the super. He lost his nerve or what? So his wife got. I'm going to warn you one more time that next year. My Mandak Prescott is going to have his Sean McVeigh named killing more. If they let Kelly more call the place next year, you'll see the same quantum leap from Dak Prescott that you have seen in the regular season from Jerry. I have I hear cannon more Shumar. More don't care. Cowboy miss the playoffs. Are you gonna do to yourself again? Right now, you really wanted. You did it last your six cases, you paid on that you wanna do it again. I'm welcoming let me highly clearly out, you know, how you guys do it number even number years play on fourteen sixteen eighteen okay? So it's eating its. It's written in historical stone that next year will be doomed right somehow the NFL gods have decreed next year. You're doomed right? Okay. Do you would you like to bet upon that? Please two cases. Listen, I get five who why only to put your do where your mouth is to k more right more. I've you can have Herman Moore negoti more more act. All right. Good, brother. Give him a shot shot at what is changing the you need a shot of any lucys. So that's the only shot you get cases. Yes. Yes. Oh, do I want. I want five. Okay. Bye. Thank you very much right now. You made this far skill. But that's what you told me for a whole year last year, and what happened, and then you kept doubling down to you lost six cases on this. The eagles. The eagles have landed with our no Walker to I started to hear some they talk about. I'm not really happy. That us got beat walk into him twice last year. That's interesting. And when I compare the three year careers of Goff and Dak deck has a QBR this scale zero to one hundred sixty nine over three years, that's his total QBR Jared Goff is at forty five. And these two have faced each other Goffin what the record. That record. How about when they faced each other? What has happened each time? And I'm gonna include the preseason game which was their first meeting right here at the LA, call seem getting start. Well, he played in the go stunk in the game. That's Jeff issue. Okay. It was Jeff Fisher a whole different a whole. Okay. But Dak Prescott was special that night. You could just see it. Waterson is gonna join us later. He was there. And he just said he was in awe of attack that was when they played in the regular season two years ago. He was saying when they play lash unions this year in the debate will thank you for bringing up that regular season game two years ago. Decks QBR was eighty one Gough forty six in that game. Not that good. And then in the playoff game this year. Dat. Cat an eighty four QBR here at the call seem on that fateful Saturday night and Jared Goff had a fifty seven. So he's outplayed him all three times a lot. Yeah. QBR doesn't tell you. Because you know, it doesn't you know why? Because the Rams ran wild on my defense two hundred and seventy three yards rushing Goff doing that. He did have one rush that killed him at the end of the game. Onnell remember AFC championship game patching my homeboys had higher. QBR Tom Brady did who wanted to game Tom Brady. Okay. At the end of the day that we we kinda do. That has no Tom Brady was having to overcome a flammable Tortuga Bill. Check defense that gave up twenty four points in the fourth quarter that game. And then would've Brady say, I guess, I do more restrained. Third and t- should have been twenty eight nothing. Tom Brady, not made that goofball playing ends on PLO K. Don is huge. Okay. He was still great. And even you admitted he was great. Even I think you came in the next day and said, I give it up. I did. But I just I gave it up to him. What you're trying to say QBR and all this and all that when Jerry golf team keep winning. That's what they keep doing the keep winning jerk Goff got exposed on Sunday night. Okay. You could see right through him. You could see what he's made of or not made of Dak Prescott is made of tougher stuff. When jeered Gullo. He just is the patriots. The patriots Cowboys make sure they do. Tom brady. I got I got all the cases you won't. I'm taking none. No, no. You can't do that. What you votes house not enough home in order for you to be. If you that guy that you said, he is you go to the go house. Nate you either go home. I'll bet you cases right now that Tom Brady plays pass next season. Because you're dug in that he's will allow I was doing diff. Or pay except those I'll know about ever ever my loan Ligand life rooting for the patriots. Komo Tom Brady, top Reiter. You gotta five hundred yard game in your pocket. Okay. You please put it out. We've got some time. Game recognizes game. I'm wearing the twelve jurors the whole week not where to the whole we get I got a patriot film and the Pro Bowl from being okay? Because I sleep in four jersey every night. I got you there. He he he thought away. Tom, Tom radio. Make you that way. It's just one loss twelve and four. It's okay. I figured. It wasn't all that around. Really? And we spent two they're gonna miss the plus I'm good now. We're going to give them not only going to whip twelve wins kellyn more change life. Now. Massey. Thanks for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host, Jenny Taft. But before we go I wanted to tell you about one of our sponsors. Here's a quick and freeway to finally stick to your New Year's resolutions. Start listening to podcast on Spotify. With more than one hundred fifty thousand podcasts, including Oprah's super soul conversations. 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Best Of (Eric Dickerson joins to discuss the Cowboys + Bucs, Dodgers + Lakers championship runs, Dez Bryant)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast I'm your host Jenny Taft. This podcast is a condensed version of today's episode of undisputed handpicked with the best segments and discussions skip Shannon. Let's go. The cowboys have fallen from NFC East favorites to start the year to now football focus saying that they might not win more than one more game. This season join five. They have seen a large number of injuries this season and may even be down third string quarterback this week. Says analyst Eric Dickerson joining us now Eric First of all you look great Congrat- two of the dodgers. But I gotta ask you about the cowboys. What's the biggest reason for their collapse? Well. I think the biggest reasons offensive line I mean, I think a lot of people don't put a lot of stock into an office last night the on a football you pick the the the guys outside quarterback and the receivers makeup football team. You start with. Land Line for the Dallas cowboys and been decimated I. Mean I think they're playing with his third third backups to the right tap was gone the center retired Another thing is you don't have any. Ota. You have no preseason. You don't get a chance to know your head coaching killing hip coach and get a chance to know you know the offense. Is just a lot of problems over that right now. But the main thing really is offense I mean and people ask me all man how Ziegler Ziegler bad now. It's not Zeke I've been in that same situation. You don't have the guys up front I don't care how great you are how you out fast you are those guys on blocking. You can't run people have a tendency to get those are pros on the other side of that ball also so they're the stock you but that's why for me when I had office of line without always bound you, I mean I think that's important. One. Making I was most definitely gonNA give it to. Lineup I really believe that. Is Lines. Are they collapse brought into the high. It's too many excuses. The I mean Look Nobody had Ota's nobody had many camps everybody had abbreviated training camps. Nobody had preseason games basically everything zoom meetings and walk through. This is no excuse and you look at the defense. Okay. Ha Ha Clinton digs will the big citing us get loved that signing he couldn't be making it out of training camp decide Everson Griffen he's being traded already. Why is that? They've bucked the system they said what? What you're trying to impose upon us Mike Nolan. It does not work and he said, okay, you're gone. You're gone. Okay. Dante. Airport I haven't seen John. Terry on the field and at least two to three games, and if it is for one snap, Jerem McCoy got hurt. So all of the big names that they sign didn't. Pan Out and their defense is awful and we keep blaming we blame to regard remember last year it was all about Jason Gary Walters. Eight Jason Gear he came motivate. Somebody told we Jason Gary could motivate a ball out of a shoe? So. Now they got rid of Jason Kerr they got rid of Chris Russo. They got rid of. Rodman Nellie they bring in a May may have told me Mike McCarthy. May. He made a Roger. They got say that they won the super bowl together a decade decade ago off, they got Mike McCarthy May. Now, look if every single year eighty, we go through this, the cowboys are supposed to do this and we evaluate. Them, but look at talent eighty you been around too. You know it takes more than just talent to win into win big in this league. The cowboys are High Jerry Jones have been selling them. He does a great job of selling them but the cowboys is not nearly as talented not nearly as good as people make them out to be every single year. So I have a question for both of you hall of famers. Do you have any idea how hard this is on me a lifelong fan to be living here in Los Angeles to have to look at Eric Dickerson wearing at dodger top Tommy Lasorda Jersey. Because, they just won the world series last night and I'm still having to put up with this man across from me because his Lebron led. Lakers won the championship Cova Championship Cubic zirconiums championship but it is a championship none the less you and I have to live with it and the rams are starting to look like they got a shot. I'm talking to the RIM Basser here they're looking pretty good i. know they laid an egg up San Francisco, but they looked really good against the bears on Monday night. And now I have to live with the team that is historically inexplicably all time bad I have never Mr Dickerson seen anything like this in all my years of covering all the sports never have I seen it this bad for a team that most prognosticators really liked consensus pick to the NFC east, maybe a fifth or sixth. Among the oddsmakers to win the Super Bowl. I thought it was a pretty talented team. I said ten wins. You said maybe nine, you gave them maybe nine. They don't even compete. It started with the opening drive on opening Sunday night at so-fi against your rams. Mr Embassador they just took the ball and drove it right down. Dallas's throat. We're up seven and nothing, and then here we went Atlanta's comes to Jerry world. They're up twenty to nothing after a quarter twenty, nine to ten at halftime at Seattle. My team is down thirty, two, fifteen in. The third quarter. Then here come the browns who were on and off. They were still struggling hit miss their up forty one to fourteen. In the third quarter. The giants Swab Dak was still afloat still upright still healthy and the offensive line was still relatively healthy. They trailed the giants seventeen to three early in the second quarter before Andy Dalton finally stole that went back for them and then. Arizona a Monday night football game you just quit you just roll over and play dead, and then you go play your archrival in Washington and you quit from the outset you don't even compete. You're done after a quarter of that game on that run by Antonio Gibson twelve yards he just danced into the end zone even if it were flag football, they wouldn't have taken his flag if we do that we're seeing right now. So Eric I get what you say about the offensive line. That's right now it's decimated got no shot maybe Andy Dalton maybe been to NUCCI, the seventh round rookie quarterback. Phillies. GonNa win this game forty three. But when I look back, they never responded to the two new coaches, the head coach or the defensive coordinator the two Mikes drop the Mike's I've said from the start it just didn't work somehow this team mutinied against both of them rejected all the teaching and coaching on both sides of the ball because this is all time bad worst defense maybe in the history of pro football and the offense is running away with turnovers. Lead the League by foreign turnovers in turnover margin because they've only take it away twice. That's the worst what's going to happen. You're going to get blown out every game and it has to go back to the coaches because I still see a lot of talent union showed that forty Dantonio. They do have a lot of talent and you and you write they could buy man. Let's go back to Mike McCarthy remember Aaron Rodgers and Rogers. They didn't get along up there and you see why I mean magnolias his defense I mean, it is horrible I mean one thing is in players that when you're on the field, you know what's going on sometimes, coaches won't listen. I'm serious coaches like. Challenge you know. Out here in the battle, we know what's going. We know what a work we know what they're looking at. They call him the made before they even running I mean the cowboys right now when you when you the players San look these coaches have us unprepared they don't know what they're doing. You know that's a bad sign when you're losing everything is magnified when you're winning, I'll say this all the time you win it if you came in it trash on the floor and the cowboys right now seven zero everybody would be like man business how we win we just a bunch of guys having a good time. But when you want one in four when you wanted more I mean To what they're. Doing five five and nobody cares I mean well, I take that back care about the cobwebs because the other cowboys expect out of them. But right now, this team is just not that they're not a unit then they're not a good fit for. You got you got stars over here. You Got Stars over there you got. You don't have back and I said this before when an unknown Shannon you're not. You're not a big I just think that's the best thing for the COP. But when you lost that. You lost everything right there I mean he's I saw it coming I. Mean When you lost your your your your quarterback, the guys who they respond to like that hit their own andy dog if that would have been backdated hit off the whole team with responded. So this team is like, Hey, we're not responded these cultures and we just we just waiting for the season with you can tell you know they're just. But Week Sixteen. Eric, do you realize how blessed both the you were? You got to play for the Great John Robinson obviously for Ron Meyer he played for Smu and Shannon Got Mike. Hand and rhyme billick and you didn't. Its greatness like like you have people you admire and you fear a little bit because you know they are really good at what they're doing. You believe in what they're telling you right. That's true but I think the biggest thing for me is that I always played for. So I play for coaches that ownership stayed out of it. Mr Bola. Was Not didn't have a radio show he didn't have a TV show art modell did not have a radio show he didn't have a TV show so whatever the coaches I never thought the one thicker betty of something happened on the field and the coach of that I could go upstairs to to Mr be or Where they do that? You can't do that. If, you can circumvent the coach's authority. Now the players know that you can do that. Well, he has nothing and that's what Jerry Jones has allowed these players to do since. Jimmy. Lil, what an parcel. So basically in his thirty ut in your own, the team is that for what Jimmy was there for what? Five years from what eighty, nine, ninety, ninety, one, ninety, two, ninety, three. Five years and then he possibly. Three or four years. So for basically nine years they had declares had to be held accountable by the head coach. They couldn't go to Jerry was that's been removed the coach the players can go to jail with. Jerry WanNa be there bloody and he takes them out of the hand. Jerry. The bigger part of the problem that he actually realized. I agree that's the problem he does real. Dairy the there's the most famous. That's not a good thing not. That's not a good thing. And you know what? We're obviously about to have elections here in this country I wish fans we could vote Jerry out, but we can't we can't remove it. That's that's. Supreme Court. That would. They decide to go now. This weekend starts Saturday strong with the big noon Saturday game of the week. Jim Har- rottenness thirteen wolverines face off with the spartans in one of the wildest big ten rivalries it all starts with big new up at ten eastern and then it's Michigan State Michigan Saturday at noon eastern on Fox and the Fox sports at pay maybe Tom Brady will be watching the walgreens. And after seven total touchdowns and no interceptions, the past two weeks brady has officially entered the MVP discussion the. Year qb is now on the top five for MVP favorites after back to back wins, and we'll look to approve odds see faces the giants this weekend Eric Dickerson who away we haven't forgotten has called Brady AAC. S. Several Times. Eric How surprised are you at what Tom Brady is doing it forty three. Well you know I gotta say the oldest handed me wrong but he played. quarterback and that's not forget. Tom. Brady is a great quarterback possibly the greatest quarterback play you know not having not aid. You Know Not really knowing this office very well a new football gene new city new offense everything in the last three weeks fifteen touchdown one interception I mean he's playing fantastic I mean he's he's throwing the ball as good a bell inequality back right now in the national football that touch Scotty Miller in the end zone was. It was a perfect throat I. mean it had to be perfectly thrown and he's thrown. It's like it's almost like he's playing seven or seven football when you watch him I mean this past right here I mean it's like That that pass is perfect. I mean he's out to end zone. So for Tom Brady most definitely you know I think he's he's he's playing like MVP and if you look at their schedule in December I, mean they've got the Vikings they've got the falcons. They've got the lions and they've got the Falcons again in December. So he's got some numbers. He can probably put up 'cause you know all those because they played very poor against the past but I think he's he's planning fantastic but forty, three year old man I'll say it again. Man. He playing graders, and I'll say the position quarterback you'll be running back and forth. He? was what forty six last year so. He company Tom Brady is coming up the best game this season but I think he threw the ball better Sunday than I've seen him throw it in a year and a half two years and he's had some bad moments the pig fixes forgetting that it was down. But to bounce back with the way, he threw the ball on Sunday. I was I was very impressed. Now did I think Tom Brady could play? Well yes I. Thought he could play well given what he had I'm surprised that he's playing as well as easy as. So early and I think the biggest thing is I don't care what anybody says. This is not Bruce Arians offense. They're letting Tom Brady do what Tom Brady does a lot of shallow crosses a lot of overs. To gronk and weakest leaks guilt we see grow starting. GRONK. Again is we got Miller running a lot of the rouse the Amendola Elman ran we see him except the one they didn't get down the field like this kid this kid can get down the field. You know what he's I think he wants four three. Hero Fayez Although v three He'd be. He wrote if I ask and Brady was going to be in the conversation for MVP. Brady's one of these guys like Lebron like Peyton, manning area you're going to be an MVP compensation skill because he's going to have numbers and teams are going to win Lebron. Gone been the MVP Conversation Tom. It was going to be an MVP conversation because they were nine and seven last year. So they go to they win twelve they win the division they get a I think. He was going to have to be in the conversation because think about what they weren't last year, and now that he has outstanding defense, I don't believe his defense playing any better play fuel snaps is hard to play with your quarterback turns the football over hey, and you get the ball, the one yard line we're talking about sudden change. Yeah. When you lead the League in turnovers. All of a sudden skip instead of plan seventy, five eighty snaps their planning fixed if that and teams are having to drive the ball as opposed to getting the ball on the ten because James Fumble because James threw an interception. So Brady deservedly is in the MVP NBP conversation I got behind Russ I got rodgers and unfortunately skill I got my Home Front Hill people are not talking about mahomes when he still have it'll he's sixteen down one pig Roger Seventeen into an Russ is twenty, two and six, but he definitely top five in the MVP carpets. Angela Guinea said he's fourth and deservedly some weight with the same area Rogers who folded like my pockets. Tom Brady. Folded like my pocket square bill guy gotta be by Nick Foles. Twenty Two nineteen Foles who's his his Kryptonite I can't explain why and Nick Foles I. DON'T I. Don't know back to my man he d he was doing great eating him some old old ass man crow and going right down the yellow brick road toward Tom. Brady's greatness and then he suddenly said he's possibly the greatest quarterback ever possibly. Who Else would you? I'm Joe Montana Man I'm sorry I just. CISCO HILL I don't like that he signed for me. I'M NOT A. Fan. But I'm a Joe Montana Guy Okay. That's fair enough but we go. So Eric. Think about this. The forty three year old Tom Brady. Leads the whole league and what pro football focus calls. Big Time throws got twenty four. He also leads the League in fewest what they call turnover worthy throws. So you combine big time plus fewest turnover. Worthy. YOU GOTTA teen. It's got shot to win it all because Jamie's through this point last year that team had seventeen turnovers through seven games. Now they have seven. Plus five and turnover differential that that's how you win championships and you can see Tom. Brady after he threw that little bit on the sidelines and that game in question at Chicago he he went after he roasted his offensive line on the sideline all of a sudden they're playing the cleanest football in the league. Now no turnovers last two games no sacks the last two games. He is now imposing his sort of New England Patriot way culture on Tampa, and they're starting to resemble the way the Patriots play. Do agree with that I mean you you do see some of Tom Brady putting some of his touch on on that but botching, tell you think i. think that's GonNa really help them is a sign of Antonio Brown I mean and I really believe that Tom Brady had a lot to think about while he was in New England. He was out, he had five catches what tries now new one gay. People say Ali he won't be play I'm GonNa tell you something he was one of the best. He's probably be best. Receive the national football when he left the NFL rows, grey routes works out hard Yummy for you got Mike Evans. You Got Brisk when who's hurt you got broncos playing like Gronk again because he's getting comfortable. So this team be very dangerous I mean. I got. You. Know I know you love time when I love Tom. A sure. But I think Tom is planned. Fantastic with do I. think he's a great quarterback. No doubt if not number one number two in your book number one is always say is who you saw play I played against Montana I play defense but I saw him play close. So best my guy and Tom Brady's your guy. But most definitely he's playing football right now. I was watching skit. What does that thing that showed that? Painting does and he was breaking down. Tom. Brady detail details. Says I wonder what took them so long to allow Tom to run Tom Please? Yeah. If you can tell this offense yeah, and all this other stuff no risk it no biscuit we're GonNa just thought about it. Because you got a row Jones whose fourth the league, Russia he didn't they didn't run the ball particularly well on Sunday d but they rounded enough that when he put up, put it hand in his belly and he rolled over and those lamb back stepped up gronk with right in there behind him. Scotty middle was right in there behind him Mike. Gabel who's right in there behind him and that's Tom Brady life to Leo and he could looking in the backfield lawson and little the ball over your head Tom Brady is not a guy that plays for field goals. Tom, Brady will catch Oh. Okay. Hearing authorities ball. Launched. About fifty five air distance in the air in the back pile of the end zone and they got test that right before the and then they get the ball coming out this thing. Yup. So I got an answer to hall of famers on talking to right now. Is there any resentment on either of your parts that he is still going strong at forty three when your positions did not allow you to play into your forties? No. When allow there was you? Play I. Bet Eighty I. wanted to play one more year. It has CBS not called me and offered me slip basically the same money that I was GonNa make Popo I have played that year but that was it fifty was going to be here for me so either I was going to be fifteen retired or I'll be fifty I'll be fifteen or somebody TV but no I'll. Get hurt man I mean guess. Sore. Of Pot is that any? No. I want to know more positive should played quarterback are good i. Like you. Get. What. Lake quarterback. Is. Now. The dodgers ended their thirty two year title drought with a game six win last night that included a shortened season in a playoff bobble all this while La was just coming off the high of Lebron leading the Lakers to their seventeenth title in the Orlando Bubble in just his second year with the team. So Shannon which championship run was more impressive to you Lakers or dodger the honest honest I mean it's really hard to see the one because both what you fought for didn't come to fruition. You fought to be the number one. So you can have home field or home corps and ended up having to play a bubble in the end up having to play how Arlington Texas this from California as your home field. So for me scale, if you look at the dodgers, beat the number eight seed brewers to the Lakers, beat the eight, see the greatest eight feet ever Portland the pile give you that that's even Stephen. Okay. All right. The dodgers beat the poor the padres we beat the forthy. Who there's. The Houston Rockets with to MVP James Harden who's revolutionized basketball wait the Potter said the second best record the National League though. Okay go ahead. You guys beat the braves four three. You're a brave up three one. That was a Tuesday we beat the nuggets. which was the three. Because the toothy that we should have been playing guy Okay. Then they beat the race we beat, we beat the heat the raised. Now the rains were the fourth the fourth. The fourth favorite in preseason betting on the dodgers favorite. So I mean. Botha. Which heavier brakes. Failed as. You said, they said the Lakers we were going to be like the thought of six, the filthy the sixty in the west. We weren't supposed to be here remember it with clippers, clippers, clippers because we weren't mentally tough. Remember you get yelled at Lug is going be better. All these executives that were going to get to the western conference finals who's going to get to the NBA Final Polo Laker couldn't get a boat. Nobody voted and then they robbed us. So the MVP they does the defensive player of the year they robbed us of. Executive. Executable, you lawrence free. To do we deserve that wait he's with the Oh, the clippers going we got a D. Yoga Paul Jordan without the. Letter. Of, the rule we had A. We had. To, go hey, we gotta get daily Green Booze. Will you? Guess what? Guess what he got. He got guess what we got nearly. Fifty. Because what we what everybody fought for, they will forty forty Vicki gave these forty three and seventeen. They wanted homefield wanted to see dodger fan celebrate that didn't happen because the covert we fought be able to have our home games at staple that didn't happen. So the mental aspect of it is that you're isolated from your family you you gotTa. Do this mentally I keep telling you. The greatest key to so bob? Is Not. People thinking size the speed and strength is adaptability. You see the allegation has been around for sixty million years because it's been able to adapt. We were able to win championships we leg Asia failure champion of angels because we could adapt you could The dodgers just proved you. They could adapt to any circumstance and situation because they scratched and clawed down one of the toughest roads to a championship. You will ever see meanwhile your Lakers cake walked through a bubble owned by Lebron James. Cakewalk? How? How did he owned the bubble deal with the same circumstances everybody else within the same environment at the dodgers the rave quarantined with isolated the padres isolated the brave is elated the bruiser isolated they got no benefit. Those were all soft to bubbles because they weren't Keeping you in a confined space. You could go out at night you could go away. You could see your loved ones. It was different that what happened? That's why they had all these Forbes. Okay. That is exactly right. What did you get to do? Lebron got to take your team to the bubble because he smelled blood he said I got this back to my Aa you days and I'm GonNa take my team. I'M GONNA lead my team and I'm a show him how long did it last two months or whatever he? Wants. Yeah. We will suck it up and we will embrace the bubble in ways that the clippers the team that would have beaten you if you had. You told me that that the dodgers assault bubble, the Lakers had to because it went off about their bubble because God's got sent away when they did. Thank you remember your house yeah. So the leg of head of topic because they were in the pack will Bob and they were actually quarantine and they had no positive tests Atlanta Bible Okay and thank you for bringing up. The rockets because in the second round, the division around baseball. The dodgers had to face the padres who to use a baseball term could rake. They had the second best record in the National League and they were formidable Chato and teast yes. You got it and the dodgers shut them down and shut them up three zip in that was it, and then here came the braves third best record in the National League they led the National League in hits and on base, and they were second in runs scored and second in home runs. Nuggets I don't think. So you were serious business and the dodgers were almost done. They were down three games to one and it looked pretty hopeless and here came the dodgers scratching and clawing back into this Lebron and company never faced the kind of a verse. That that the dodgers faced against the braves because the braves were really good they were fifty fifty. When you like us you. Don't have to worry about. When you gotta go. James. Yeah, you've got baby whatever goes over guests who was waiting for you for the dodgers in the world series the rage with the second best record in all of baseball they were a team from top to bottom. They were difficult to deal with and wait a second did blake snail and Arena, let's take those two. Did they get hurt in game one of the world series? They did not what happened Gordon Dr Drag each got hurt. He was their leading score of the Miami Heat in the finals being the playoffs he got hurt in game one in was gone in. Bam. Hurt his shoulder and was never the same after game one. We'd be the of you remember we had a twenty point lead when all those guys got hurt we'd be breaks off your in Game One. Bam. Drug it. You had a forty point League Zach. We're Bama drudge. The rays were serious business. It took eight an inexplicably dumb decision by. Cash last night in the sixth inning to give you the one break, you got dodgers to get home in six games. It looked like it was headed for game set about what we had to do. We had to, we're a big team we like to start jail and then we get to the rockets it we gotTa Stop Marquee. We've got a stock market marts and then we get to the finals and normally like to start we play the White House because the White House into the starting lineup against against it. So now we get there and guess what we do. So you know what? Frankie. Guy That didn't nobody. Will he was fifteenth option? Yeah And if you know what Caruso getting there. So, they're justice. See that was the dodgers won because they didn't win because they believe they still would have wanted to take them game seven because Kevin cash made a bonehead moved me up. We had to make strategic moves. because. That's what we do. We play Big Okay Y'all got beats. Okay. We play beef y'all would play video we played medium place mall. We'll play small ACHIM fettering. They weren't totally fully isolated still could go see their loved one. Go and come as they please. we were quarantine skip. We would not have by days has had to come if you wanted a special kind of food, somebody had to come drop it off. y'All get to go to the restaurant y'all got to go to Moscow y'all got to go to nobody's fans that places we had none of that. The rays were the clippers in the dodgers, beat the raise and six they beat the equivalent of the clippers as they had to face three. But what if what if the clip a gag because they beat the Astros? They had a big lead remedy up three one. O'Neill noted without. Three Oh, what are they? The Gay but we we're we're. At The Ray that gag after being a three one. All you can do is beat the WHO is in front of you, and because we beat who is in front of us at the bid isolated get, we were stranded your own that bubble island for ninety five days would nobody become? Lebron we'll. We'll. We'll. We'll how you see what my friend Jared Dudley said last week on a podcast about the clippers he said, those boys did not want to be in the bubble. They didn't WanNa go in the first place and they didn't want to stay in some of them. Disney. Stake their hearts were not in it. That's like we growing up. There were a lot of guys that were equally as talented agenda Sean but they'll boys wanted like Shannon. Sharpe has that my fall Has that Lebron the daily wanted. Walk you told me a while top of the CYBORG and bang that everybody's saying to Partha the thing is separated the clever from legged and mental toughness from the head coach down through fifteen. And the thing that you fay will the very thing that made them weak If you're not careful, you'll become the very thing you despise the most person. Right. Congratulations on your cakewalk. Congratulations to the dodgers because they earned their. It will be there for a while. I told you. I told US GIVE US A. Look Jansen a no, you mean well, but we couldn't let you get the weekend. We can get you the ball land. Now we made that mistake. We could get a ball that that Barbara and we got we got movie but Limo you do. Now we've got Brian that loan you got Brown for about another number three to five, but I see guesswork. Did you the art get who favored? The dodgers. NBA So, we don't have guess what twenty, two we. Have a parade for photons twice for the leg of the dog. Well, we're GONNA have a free by million people next year. Mazzi. Tomorrow, Matt Ryan, and the Falcons need a win to get their season back on track as they take on NFC south rivals Teddy Bridgewater Ridge Water and the panthers it all starts at seven thirty eastern on Fox NFL network, and streaming on Amazon prime. Does Brian is one step closer to playing in his first NFL game since twenty seventeen in yesterday the ravens signing all-pro receiver to their practice squad upon getting the opportunity does tweeted my emotions running high right now I'm thankful I can't stop crying out by the laughing crying emojis Shannon, how do you feel about him signing with Baltimore's practice? Extremely happy for death. Issues me that he really wants to play I think they had him in and they said, we need to be a little better shape and it looks like he went home he worked got in better shape and they brought him back and say. Now they could possibly they could use. They have the worst receiving chorus forest production they do catch yards and touchdowns cam that nature skip. Is a person that could help them out immensely, and in order for them to go to utterly were they need to be skilled they're going to have to throw the football. Yeah we know they can run it. But what happens when you don't have the lead gotTA, throw it, and we've seen over the last couple of years. Lamar. Jackson gets to the playoffs they fall behind and he's unable to bring them back through the football and so hopefully I don't know what day is has you asking an awful lot skip a guy that hadn't played in a long period of time who was never a burner to begin with South Achilles injury, and so we don't know what we're GonNa get this uncharted territory. We haven't seen anything like this. Basically, he's Josh Gord but Josh, Gordon was four to five years younger when he returned Yeltsin. What Day is currently in Josh Gordon didn't have the injury they just We. Know Josh Gordon Story so I'm happy for him. Skip that he's willing to start at the bottom. Yep, and to work his way back and says, all I want was an opportunity. You got my foot in the door because remember. They tried to sign dance immediately after he got released and he said, no. Turns Out Three Years Twenty million to God Baltimore Baltimore To, come back and basically a twelve thousand dollars a week job well. I'm happy. Hopefully, it works out. Ditto. When I read his tweet last night that ends with I can't stop crying nearly brought a tear to my eye because. This still young man he's thirty one. He has suffered. He went from the top of amount in two thousand fourteen he put up one of those years that that you look back on and say that was a year. Dominated this league and twenty fourteen, lead it in touchdown catches. WHO First, team all pro and I'M On TV every day I'm throwing up the AC everything. Everybody, wanted. To eggs. In that year obviously ended in Green Bay in which Dez caught it probably didn't catch one just for posterity. Could we see? Yes. He caught it and he ran with it and he slammed it on the goal line with his left hand like a running back would in the ref on the spot raised his hands to say touchdown. Until it went to replay review that's a touch. Boy Review upon further review it's not a catch said somebody in New York I guess that's a touchdown caught. It ran with it slammed it on the goal line complete control it bobbled even he hit the ground and it came up on top of and so it never touched the ground after he slammed it on the ground. This is as much of a catch as you will ever see, that's a catchy ran to strides with it and had such control in his left hand because he's left handed, he slammed it on the goal line. That's how I will remember Dez Bryant because my team would have won that game going on to Seattle where they had one in the regular season and they just might have beaten those seahawks again and got into the Super Bowl. They would run into Tom Brady. Also. No. Yeah. Okay. I got that. But that was really the height of Dez, Bryant? And what was e best at? He had incredible all-time rapport with Tony Romo. They loved each other because Tony liked just throw it up for grabs. Yes and the one guy who could go up and grab it the most was this guy. Wasn't the fastest but he was big and strong and powerful, and he could lead in play basketball and high point you in beat your brains out. He did make the pro bowl in DAX first year. So I give him that. But the numbers are about half of what he did in two, thousand, four hundred. Jerry paid him after two thousand fourteen and he earned it. Yes. He got. What's five years seven million dollars. In Jerry came to regret because he began to fall party at a Jones fracture of this and that and the other, and he had no chemistry at all would back and they fell apart and pretty present he's out then he's out of the League and to your point he has an Achilles tear in it did my heart good. Just what was it a couple of months ago we saw the video of him catching off season passes in that workout facility in Fort Worth, from your homeboy because Patrick mahomes still has high regard for what Dez Bryant used to. Be What he achieved in this league. So again, think he could contribute for the Ravens will not much contribution there they're already I ranked in pass hundred, eighty, nine yards a game maybe fifty sixty, seventy s even early nineties I mean that was good enough. You had a sound running game play defense but not in today's game in today's game skip you need a guy because it's GonNa come a time that there says, okay we're not going to let you run the football in order to beat us to have to throw yourself to victory. Yeah, and right now. What concerns me is that. Is. Lamar going to advance enough because he's GonNa have to trust that he put the ball up and dads can come down with it. Yup I. WHAT IS GONNA come down to us all about trust and mostly Red Zone Trust. Yes. Yes. Because yes can still do that right? Maybe some third-down possession recept rights but. I'm rooting for him to by the way on December, the Third The Dallas Cowboys visit the Baltimore Ravens. So just for desert sake and our sake because it'd be fun for four hundred yards. Here we go. Yards just getting home oh yeah. Just gave them two, hundred, two, hundred plus yards to Washington. You gave up three hundred yards to Cleveland radio seven rushing. Four hundred won't need does that night right? What's IT GONNA? Be The quarterback Roy for twenty yards Lamar? Yep You could be right and I can't even argue.

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Introducing The Lead

Bald Move TV

05:45 min | 1 year ago

Introducing The Lead

"You know that we're all about human drama here bald move and I have long maintained that when it comes to drama it's hard to beat live sports for thrills and chills just in my lifetime. I'll never never forget the time to Eric dickerson scored four touchdowns against the broncos on Halloween night or when Reggie Miller scored eight points eight point nine seconds to beat the Knicks game one of the ninety. I Five Eastern Conference semifinals or win. My colts finally got past the Patriots in the two thousand six. AFC Championship game coming all the way back from an eighteen point deficit to win the game name and go on to win our first super bowl in Indianapolis. That's why we're excited to share with you. A new daily sports podcasts from one DRI and the athletic called called the lead is where the kind of sports fan who wants to go beyond the box score every weekday morning the lead will bring you one big time story from Athletics All star team of local well and national sports reporters. Some stories will be a fresh take on a major news event and other episodes feature an indepth look into what's been happening off the field. The lead is hosted by sportswriter Kavita Viva Davidson and peabody award winning journalists unders Feltoe who will take you close to the story through comprehensive reporting fasten clips and exclusive interviews. You won't hear anywhere else else now. You're about to hear a preview of the lead that looks into what really went down after that blown call and the two thousand eighteen. NFL playoff game between the rams and the saints while you're listening go subscribe to the lead on Apple podcasts or wherever you're listening to this podcast right here. There's also a link and episode notes for your convenience born in last season's. NFL Playoffs as every football fan remembers the New Orleans Saints were on the verge of a trip to the super bowl breeze but that no the one of the worst calls in sports history going crazy as there's no right on the saint sideline but it was all anyone could talk about for days bad call that had saints fans screaming last night. I'll glaring case of pass interference one of the most obvious case you'll ever see and and it wasn't penalized and it led to an unprecedented response from saints fans ca billboards boycotts federal lawsuits against the NFL including writing reports of a possible class action lawsuit against the NFL filed by people who lost big money betting on the saint the issue even ended up on the floor of the US Senate. The state of Louisiana is outraged because of what happened in the Superdome last Sunday so today we're going to talk with Larry holder a football columnist who lives in New Orleans about why saints fans have taken their quest for justice thanou extremes and we'll hear why neither the rule change that came from all of this nor yesterday's rematch between the two teams has changed how saints fans hands feel from wondering on the athletic. I'm Cathy Davidson. Am It's Monday September sixteenth and this is the lead felt like something great was there is something of emotion and it don't matter because doctors. This isn't a story rear view the athlete it stays with you Kavita. What's up volunteers well before we get started. This is is the very first episode of the lead and since you and I are the hosts. I thought maybe we should just quickly explain what the show is so. The lead is the show. I always wish existed an. I always wished I could have listened to you. I'm a sports writer obviously but I was a sports fan. I and it's really all about great stories great stories from great sports reporters who are all over the country an on the ground. I mean these are journalists who live in these cities and no these teams we know these players but you don't have to be a fan of those teams or those players to care about these stories for example in this first episode you talk to Larry Holder holder who has covered the New Orleans saints for Almost fifteen years about why this terrible call provoked such an unprecedented reaction yes yeah and talking to Larry. Really helped me understand why saints fans did what they did. It's really something anyone could identify with so. Should we get to the story story. Let's go for it so Larry. Let's start with a very basic question question. How important is football is the game of football to the city of New Orleans. I'll just put it this way. When Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans August two thousand and five and of course everyone is recovering from the storm people. Are Literally taking their FEMA checks to by saint season season tickets. That's how important the saints are to this community and I'd say without the saints returning to the city at that point. I don't think the city would have ever you actually rebounded so I would say unlike many if any NFL fan base within the League all right so let's go back to this incredible no call its last year's. NFC Championship game the saints and the Rams are tied in the fourth quarter and the saints look like they're about to score four and book a trip to the Super Bowl convert and there's a good chance to saints are GonNa. Come Away with more points on.

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Best Of (Chris Broussard on Clippers/Nuggets Game 7, Damian Lillard, Eric Dickerson on Rams/Cowboys, OBJ)

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

43:43 min | 8 months ago

Best Of (Chris Broussard on Clippers/Nuggets Game 7, Damian Lillard, Eric Dickerson on Rams/Cowboys, OBJ)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast, I'm your host Jenny. Taft. This podcast is a condensed version of today's episode of undisputed handpicked with the best segments and discussions skip Shannon. Let's go. Now. Gets came back from another double-digit. The clippers out of the playoffs game seven last night want a cold six for twenty two from the floor for fourteen points in Paul George chipped in with just ten points on of sixteen shooting foxsports. NBA analysts are joining us now. Chris I know this one is a little hard for you who is to blame for the clippers collapse. Ginny there. So many ways I could go I mean obviously, there are three top scores combined for thirty one points or twenty six percent shooting I talk about Lou Williams leaving his game in the limited pepper sauce that magic city he wasn't good at all in the bubble. I. Talk About Doc rivers getting out coached yet. Again, I said on this show, he got Al Costa gives. Dallas by recall out, he got out coached by Mike Below with dog about all that. But I'M GONNA get to the crux of the matter and to me the bottom line with y the clippers will be watching the western conference finals like the rest of us on TV is that I have never in my twenty five years of covering the NBA seen a team that has won nothing. A team that hasn't done anything. To treat the regular season with such nonchalance. Such disdain such disregard they didn't care at all about the regular season they didn't think they needed it to develop chemistry they. I mean whether it was collider Paul George not practicing or missing games they did not have the right attitude. They just wanted to show up in April May and June, or in this case August September and October, which they won't get to and get to the play offs and try to win a championship, and in having that attitude, it took away their identity that they they built last year they were a hard nose gritty two nations unselfish team last year. And they lost identity, and if they had any identity at all this year, it was the identity of Prima Donnas. I. Told You guys how I was hearing rumblings as the bubble with opening and I was hearing that the clippers lot air players didn't even want to go. We know Lou. Williams with hesitant and I thought about changing my pick then because I was here in the wrong things but I stuck with them and Lo and behold it was true they did not have the right attitude we know at the boycott meeting they they voted along with the Lakers but they voted to leave and not play and so they just did they needed. An attitude adjustment of for all the other things wrong. They mentally were not right really this whole season I think ultimately, this will help them it'll humble them it'll motivate them for next year I. think that low management unless it is absolutely positively necessary for Kawhi Leonard to get through a season I that be thrown out the window doc rivers even said it last night guys were tired God were for t they obviously didn't keep themselves in shape during the four month layoff and so I think ultimately they had the wrong attitude. They thought they were the best team paper. We're GONNA show up Kawais lead us to the Promised Land and obviously it failed. Appreciate all that but you know the reason why they lost Kuwa- Leonard. Lillard is supposed to be a superstar. Now, this will say about. This is what he said about why? Because I said decree to scale at the beginning of the show people have said while was the best player in business what they say is from your minions. No St. This. Yes. After impressive run through the two hundred nineteen playoff Kuwa- Leonard have taken the mantle as best player in the NBA they twenty coaches executive in scouts of some guy, Tim from Espn but the twenty coaches Kuwa- litter. Got Twelve boats, yachts, Taku fix Dave aren't guy to Lebron James. Bond Tall. Louisiana of were Chris. Paul He. He did the poll hotels get in two thousand eighteen. Saturday night lost to the San Antonio Spurs skip bayless. The segment was a new king skip bayless Kmart. Here's the all Lebron to while it is the best player in the NBA this year scant Betas trotted out here what a Khuwaj Orazio. Wild litter. The Best Apia never said go dude. Said Kevin Durant. No I've been consistent with it. But anyway, but here's the thing. This was all. His. have. You ever seen a superstar I'm about a superstar on. Is happened once staff did it that Wa because Kawai is the best player what I've been told a lot of. Just bask football guy you know just got more. Played basketball. So that's all you. But all these other experts told me co why he's an assassin he's sideboard he feels no motion. He's just rootless Mike by he's cut from that cloth like Kobe and Michael Jordan Lebron just a nice guy he won't everybody likes it and we. Fire with the clippers shocked the foundation of the NBA. It was so surprised. Well, they thought he was gonNA sign with Lebron guess what he wished he. Could have. So you took ball George overbroad day the. For you? Say. I was GonNa say this chorale came up small. There's no defendant what he did, but I'll say we've seen them all do it. We saw tragic Johnson in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, four we saw Larry Bird eight point eight points, twelve points. In his first NBA finals. We saw Isaiah Thomas throw the ball away to Larry Bird in one thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, seven, we saw Lebron Jane Against Dallas in twenty eleven this. Moment to fall short just like the rest of let's see what he's made of I'll give you that Shannon let's see what he's made up does he learned from him and become better like those guys I mentioned or does he crumble? Alerts from it, and because has ever received the criticism of any great player in his life. He has been he has been beyond reproach hasn't been in that position. Let's face it. Hello to finals VP that what you're talking. He will tell me because because everybody says, would you rather win regular TV or? Be Give me the final MVP because that's the championship. Okay, he got. He should have been in that breath. Three three double digit lead by twelve points. Last night fifteen in nineteen, two points in the second half what Lebron from the four models twenty zero points in the fourth quarter zero for five. In the fourth quarter minus twelve that sure is that your team is your. By King. Jane Kevin Durant is Mike. Keane. Putting down back in the basement don't let him until next year. Wait a second who in a back back finals won MVP by going head to head with Lebron and shooting it right in his grill about Kevin. About. I just don't want you to put words in my mouth because I have said repeatedly on this show Kevin, durant is the player on the planet you come here with a watch Jersey on have you been here with a wide new Belgium PP's yes I. What did I tell you from the start for five years when he was a San Antonio spur, he was my favorite player deny explain he then he quit on my And and he had a master plan. He wanted to quit his way out of town and he pulled that off any new. He's going to have to make one layover you're onto yes he did. He home. He lied he jerk the rug right out from under a look on who just was dead solid convinced. He was going to Laker his regional trae request. DID HE HAVE ANYTHING CLIPPERS? He had the Lakers and pop and blue for said, we're not trying Utah Lakers. So don't do this. Master. Plan to get the the clippers he wanted to go to the Lakers. You know that I don't know that he wanted to get to the Clipper Oh my goodness. Oh now what happened you say all time choke job I'm going to say it again there were four uh excuse me three straight close out fourth quarters three in a row game five, six and seven in the first one game five he was really good he scored thirteen in the fourth quarter he tried to keep them afloat but Denver. Made Seven of. Nine threes and they lost game six fourth quarter. He's pretty good. He scored nine points but Denver made seven of nine threes and they lost again and then last night he was horrible as I tweeted, he was pathetic. It was hard to watch. I didn't want to watch it because I knew it was doomed going into the fourth quarter there already down eight the first to fourth quarters games five and six they lead going to the fourth and he thought valiantly to keep them afloat and he couldn't overcome all those threes last. Night, the whole team gag but here's my big takeaway. Chris mentioned this I said to you all year long. So I'm not being twenty twenty hindsight here I I guess this I told you from the start Lou Williams is the closer of the clippers and to Chris's point his heart was not even in going to the bubble. In the first place, he took a little excursion and wound up having to be quarantined after he went to magic city and to a funeral in Atlanta, but the point was his heart was never in. His game was never in it and you kept telling me I can't even recognize him. He doesn't look to say anyone in seven games against Denver Louis and shot sore of twenty seven from three can get much worse than fifteen percent for a high volume. Three point shooter in the three straight close out game fourth quarters. Louise's wouldn't even shoot anymore. I kept saying night just shoot it just to operate be Lou go go back into I wanNA see some lemon pepper. Yeah. Yeah. Show me something I can wire Paul George this. Bricks. Well. Hey in the past because he's a six man, the year he shoots nothing but sweet bricks and less three strike fourth quarters. He took seven total shots and scored seven total points and made one three in the three straight close out fourth quarters. He was the guy to take them home. I've always told you I don't trust down the stretch against he was never that way for the Spurs. I didn't think he was that way for Toronto. He looked in the lucky shot, I've ever seen to win game. Seven, against Philadelphia, last year, he's not that guy, he gets it in the fresh crisp, but they tell me why is so efficient but in failing game, only two of those games did you hit the percent better from the floor? So how efficient is that? Is that efficient were my guys shooting fifty eight percent but he can't shoot my guy is goosing or you got can't shoot on. Yoga can shoot and going home. By Guy last night would shoot. The most lethal weapon in basketball is his mid range jumper and he just quit shooting it. He lost all faith in us. I don't know why fix the twenty two. Yeah. So he didn't shoot twenty two threes, but he didn't tried those mid range he tried it. He would try to just force. Tried it through joker. Yeah Oh. wive this he'll safran he the cyber. He has no emotion. Time Shot Chris you why the every time he shot the ball crying official give me a call I. Give you your cow, try unlikely Rhonda's. You need to get out your boy. We'll talk about bill. All that? PJ Jackie remember can't. Wait. So wait last quick question for. Chris. Broussard. Do. You hear any rumblings. You'd think there's any chance that DOC is in trouble. That's the tough question. I would say only a slight chance I was a very slight but look and I must say you get rid of Doc. Doc is a good coach but as I say, he's been out coach these two series and you can't avoid is track record. He underachieve with Chris Paul Blake Griffin the Andre Jordan. Has Injuries in the playoffs but he underachieved with them. He underachieved this year. I can see bomber giving him one more year saying look we had injuries. Fan We weren't together but here's the tough part. Is this skip the replacement for dot could be right there on the pilot's right at right dilute right hand. Yup other teams wanting yell you could lose Tai. Lue. Who can be the pair if you keep if I guess I, think doc stays but I think I would I would I would 'cause I like Thai Lue not. Liu. So it'd be hard but I won't tell to lead and get his own GIG. So I can continue to route feverishly against the tips. Well, would you theorem if you were the head coach of the clippers up? I got the guy. Walk. Water well, he. Well he's the coach of the Lakers nothing. I got. Nothing shared slept much less. would. Appreciate you joining us and we'll check in with you very soon. Regular Season Win over the Blazers Patrick Beverley made jokes about Portland heading to Cancun and missing the playoffs. Now it's the placers heard jokes CJ mccollum tweeted Damian. Lillard asking if he had an extra villa for the clippers. Dame meanwhile who was mocked by PAT bad. When he missed those clutch free throws the first matchup tweeted directly at beverly saying I. Guess I should extend this Cancun invites I haven't made arrangements yet followed by three laughing emojis Shannon. How much did you love Damian taking shots at pet? I enjoyed IT I. Loved. I. Loved it. You remember he was all over the floor. Day. Dave dollars all that Kiki Paul George who really never trashed. Hope even he got into the free. Up PG let let bill how the guys do what you do me skill. I'm GonNa Talk Trash Talk Trash. But the guys that didn't trump. They might be by the level, but they didn't join the dating partake. That's my pain. John. Went. Back I've talked to try. To get. Raby Kiki and he you know he off camera. He joked laugh it. Okay. But they got they got Paul George but that's not A. Berbera I want to hear you talking now what was it interview after the game like? What? I wanted to hear Pat. He got so much to talk about he's a heartbeat on not and you ain't talked to the heartbeat. Day hold that flight Go. Play football. You know we all board to play, and if you somebody they'll hold a plane. Now you not they're going to leave your but make you play for your own trip and then go find your. Day Do you boy this fable? got. You 'cause somebody over the across from BB eight. No you I got you hold a flight. Bail be there. What time is killed Islamic o'clock eleven o'clock Costa gave another two hours. If he's not there in two hours, you go ahead and feel free to go to Cancun and enjoy yourself a nice. Well deserved vacation. Got Pat Bill would be shortly you're GonNa make, your own arrangement where Kiki and now Paul. Paul George Faith. The find out. Bail me. What happened You know what happened not keep up. That the same guy the not the ball Lebron. James. And Ju- came here play of the year. Play. Of, the year. Just. Knock it out of his hand Lebron's going to shoot the game line three at the Buzzer. He knocks it up out of his hand off his hands over Azad. Oh, be game over clippers win again, and now he put his bag into overhead being getting ready to go vacation. Well, my guy filling the bubble getting ready to do battle with the nuggets. That's what my guy doing. That's what your team is doing is Damian Lillard, still in the bubble no, no, no, no, no no Daimiel. C. tweeting from. Days, there's hold on I got beat by. BEAT BY FOUR TIME LEAGUE MVP Vp Your. You know what? If I were Damian Lillard last night I think I would have laid low. I would what is Damian? Lillard. Have the globe the payback. Time once again to draw attention to Damian's playoff record you realize since he came into the League Damian Lillard has the worst playoff winning percentage of any player in the whole League Kiki about that out here Shannon Kiki about I'll. I'll say day little overpay bill and Paul George that's about all he's got right now he has the worst playoff winning percentage of any NBA player since he entered the league. Wow and then should we flash back to getting swept by the PELICANS featuring your man? Wasn't all done and that's series because. Damian got swept and he shot thirty five percent from the field and thirty percent from throws. Already, to then what happened in the finals just a year ago the conference finals against Golden State four straight. Time out. I'm talking right now four straight fourth quarter and overtime conference finals against Golden State would know Kevin Durant on the floor and you're man Dame Dala he was dame nickel in that series four straight fourth quarters. He shot thirty one percent from the floors that good now and twenty nine percent from three and he was a minus thirty. What about a flame out? I thought he was supposed to be one of the best players in the league. If you don't mind me asking wait a second I'm not finished yet. So in a huge seating game against the clippers who played no starters in the fourth quarter, Dame couldn't even bring it home and it looked like he was about to head home out of the bubble because down the stretch he should he was down one point he goes to the free throw line and shoots two free throws and I thought he was a real like a ninety percent free throw shooter he gag both. Oh kind of like your big gagged guy just spin it up right on core, and then at the end of the game, he has three to tie and badly misses that and I'm thinking I thought he was clutch. And what the clippers shamed him because they don't respect him. Adding they laughed at. Respect you guys and. By the way, my last point is hat bev actually was one clip who lived up to his end of the bargain less not because he scored eleven with six assists which tied for the team lead and he had three steals. That's a pretty good line dame laughing at that I don't know I. Right. Dan should not even engage in Pat Bill Pavlov aim on his level. He can see with the Hubble telescope so you're right but I'm Dave Day and let him have it they. But I know he Paul George cleared the air. Air Clear and We're GONNA, leave families out of it. But I'm coming from your neck because you you you jumped into something you should let pat bill do that. You know by resume my resume I sent a packet last year and three years ago asset pat bail Jane. Hard. But packing guess what two year ago I also see the Denver Nuggets packet that man resume is impeccable. Yeah. He hasn't won a title but neither Paul George Neither Pat Bill. All that noise here dame Lillard ain't got nothing to hold his head downpour. I'm not gonNa Chase and maybe he'll get somebody to come with him as anything. I'm just appreciate that Damien opened the door for us to discuss his playoff resume which we needed to. Discuss Paul George, Pat Bell, What's Pat Bill Maher. Resume because he's Tokyo lead dog. Now brought you in the pack you independent Bro you in the back you end the pack you lied all you never have never will be that's the lead dog. That's a big dog talk that day and he could walk that Walk Perr Beverly needs somebody else to carry you jay hard Kuwa- litter and those guys don't play. Well, we have. We ever say the the why that clip one game or because fat bill really. WanNa rockets won a game become a pet bill come. Don't do that. Damian would have the guts to say this to Pat Bev's fate. I don't. Go. Down by seven. Chicago how about? Shy Town I'll take Chicago over. Okay. I'll go with Darla Darla about that. Guess what he ain't bout that he is correct killed Beth about that pair bill skip. You. We all know we all see Lou dog in the fence and all do. I love it as soon as the owner hit the gate for the gay to open, he run back on the port. That what Is doing all that barking. This is called keyboard courage. All few and love you will love it. He got her have three he had to be. Here, Paul George they. All Kiki. Still Worthy Kiki. Kiki candidate Damien earn Portland tweeting away tweet tweet. He the you know what come join me. Either come join me. I don't think that wants to go to Portland. They don't want him up anyway. What are you going to? Go to. Welcome back to undisputed we are now joined by Rams legend and Fox sports, NFL analyst. Eric Dickerson. It is so good to have you Eric and you know you skip had that bet between rams and the cowboys and Eric, you got the winds. How good is a feel? Details you. Listen. Tell her. We're GONNA get, Joe. And then you own me dinner. I do Oh, you at dinner but I would suggest you should buy a dinner for that referee who? Flag on Michael Gallant for offense pass interference when it was nothing close to that they were just and fighting Jalen Ramsey your top paid corner sold it. He effectively flopped any got. With it you know and I know that should have been a completion forty, five yards easy. Field Goal overtime I would've won the bet. You would warm but you didn't win. Out. Any gets the first one of the season but I I would like to talk about the cowboys that everything we saw week despite losing to the Rams Mike McCarthy feels confident about wears cowboys are at the head coach said quote we have a grading index that we've put a lot of time into. So we're closer than you may think we are Eric from what you saw. Sunday night does McCarthy how a point here. I would have to say, yes on that and I said this last week the cowboys have a very good football team. It's not time to panic. This is the first game of the season we talked about it last week not season you know you got to have pre season that was almost like a pre season game. So No, it's not time to panic adequately feel like the cowboys was still winners division you lost one game, the season opener the rams had a lot to prove being at home. The cowboys beat him last time on the road. So sure I mean I just feel like cobwebs have a very good football team got too bad. You got the good. The bad is is that they had some major injuries on this plan around you know if they can get that fixed, you know they'd be somebody replace those players but I think the good is that this football team has allowed a weapon and I made a lot of weapons. One thing I saw the cowboys the rams cannot control them when they went to that almost like that speed temple office almost like Jim, Kelly days in the nineties when they really fast the rams have had no answer for because. The COP was have a lot of weapons I mean they have a lot of weapons I think might coach head coach Mike McCarthy hasn't had a time to really implement everything. He wants when I look at this ball team right now they remind me of the old cowboy Jason Guaranteed run on first down if the cowboys are good but they don't have that same great opposite bland beheads Zeke's you. They don't have it opposite ahead most definitely have the Emmett Smith days. So sometimes, you have to throw it down you can't go back and go run on fourth downs automatically lead I feel like the cowboys have very good football team and there's no time to panic convoy fans. Say Mokaba to me somehow they find a way to underachieve with all that Talla. CD Lamb and they got Amari Cooper and they got a Michael Galloping they got Zeke and got back in somehow they find a way but I agree with you on this point is the first game and with no preseason really know. Late, training camp. So this to be expected, but I'M GONNA see. I believe it was skipping out debated this yesterday is that I believe the offense should even floor. Flow more through. Because, if you look at Zeke Zeke was running on Sunday he he he looked like the old. When they went play action that was nine of eleven, average eleven yard for a team. That was a play action. He was sixteen to Twenty, eight, five yard for a team, and so I think that's going to be they should Ra- loud the leading you paint a pit team meal you can't get into this notion say well, at least we plan deck thirty plus million he won't forty million. So we got to let him throw the ball because we pay them all this money. They. Pay mahomes forty, five me and they took a running back in the first round because they want to alleviate some of that pressure and when they go light box, we run the ball you go. Have you put your based on the field? We're GONNA throw a ball. We're going to dictate to you as opposed to having the defense, dictate the bill. So I'm not gonNA panic about the cowboys but I'M NOT READY TO BE SKIP bayless talking about they go into the NFC championship game eating. He did say that. Didn't even I'm saying you're putting words in my mouth I did not go to the gym. She said they were going to go ten and six and win the division by one game and I'll stand by that and I think they could win one playoff game. That's what I predict. Okay. Okay. I am obviously a lifelong drew blue diehard cowboys fan, and I will be the first to admit to you. I was more discouraged than encouraged by what I saw on Sunday night at so five. So Find Stadium. My problem is that game left me flat just the way a lot of nightmarish flashback games left me flat a year ago. This offense last year led the whole in fell in yards gained. It went eight hundred eight because of a bunch of Rhode losses such as May I count the ways. These are all fs that this man gave my quarterback at Newell and they scored ten points and lost twelve to ten at the jets. They scored twenty two points in lost twenty, four, twenty, two. At New England, they scored nine points lost thirteen to nine at Chicago scored twenty four. But but again, they lost thirty one to twenty four. Remember that they had only scored seven three quarters. So it's completely misleading and then at Philly, it was seventeen to nine. So that offense even if I give him the twenty four. CHICAGO. In those road games, they averaged fifteen points a game and Sunday night they scored a grand total of seventeen. There's no wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Sunday night they went three of twelve on third down and obviously they missed on the fourth down the. Four. We're going to talk about that in a few minutes, but the point is. Something's wrong with that you got three thousand yard receivers. You Got Zeke you got back top ten quarterback who deserves forty million dollars a year and wait a second. You only scored seventeen you what three for twelve on third down and the rams are pretty good on defense I give you that and to your point there's no pre season, but still it left me flat like like something is missing here. Something is not right and then you lose black who I thought was going to be a key appear the puzzle I liked him a lot I thought he could be sort of a fourth wideout you get the right tackle spot. Where you got a rookie free agent undrafted over there. Okay. Good. Luck with that one and I think he's going to be there for the next three weeks until Lyle Collins comes back. So it's going to be a little dicey. Can they beat Atlanta I duNno, it's like fifty fifty even though there are five and a half point favorite but I didn't see hopeful the way Eric seem to see Hoefflin I hope he's right about this. But I see escaped amid this day have a good football team and and and I disagree chiller channel on going through. Zeke right now because this guy football team does not have that same officer black, they really don't I mean people talk about it but they got a lot of pieces missing in. Big Willy to depend on on that. Well, you know I think that when back sometimes he holds the Balk when he has had just take off run because that's one thing he hasn't used only because his legs he has a lot of weapons, a lot of weapons and you're talking about a team, all these teams they have had no preseason they come up a regular season game. Nobody's tackled at nine months. Nobody ran plays real late in nine months was the last season so it's going to take. Some time on get on, get on, get on pace with each other this a new head coach. He would've know his team all the way because he hadn't had a police season with him yet. So I'm not really I would I. would with you I think the ten win win the division I. Think they win more than ten ten games I mean like I say the COP was heaven they have all the pieces they really be specially offensive. They do have the pieces that's if they can get him clicking. I think Zeke. Would come out the backfield catch passes set Renton on earth downtown bunches a brick wall out that seemed like with the Cobb was on. First down, we're going to run the football and as always is second in eight of a second nine instead of. Having a rollout of play action album seem deep. Go go go go bomb the GAL. You know I'm wearing either way but let's do something a little bit different goes back to being the same old cop you Warwick Jason Gary, you have. Even more tout you know but you do have not. You have a new head coach rookie you have a new NETCO this. Still trying to learn football team but I agree I think sometimes you fall in love and a lot of teams in mainly the cowboys think well, we got a dominant back offensive line and I agree they're not what they were. Let's just run the ball on first down what about some creativity you don't always have to run the ball on first down. But when they play action, you look at back and the play action game and you look at when he just dropped back. Is is like night and day and. I'll know what you saw. But I saw pop I saw league from year one to running on Sunday as opposed to what I saw Zt last year the look quicker he looked fresher he I mean catching the ball swing paths going nineteen go nineteen. Down he was hitting the whole, he's always been a leader. He was always tackling. Oh, he's going to fall for two yards. And that's what I saw on on. Sunday. So I believe they should give him pointed in the way he was running because you team at some point time doc is going to have to throw the victories because they say we're gonNA, take away we're going to force you throw it, but until they do I, mean. Getting born to half a care eighty. Four and a half of CARE D you thing about thirty times. A. Rattling you know. The cowboys you know when Zeke is right now at his best when he's like I said, he got needs for sport but come at the backfield swing pass those screen pass he's buried dangerous on those. I mean an cowboys when they had that up-tempo pace of football. You know I, think it was three minutes left right before halftime the rams to me had. No answer for because that was hitting he three different right I'm ANA hit three different said Gallup I hit Mark Cooper Ma'am Zeke out the backfield. It gave the rams a lot of problems and I believe it will give any team a lot of problems because the cowboys have. So meaning weapons if they use them right and use them at the right time. I just wish we had a few more weapons on the other side of the ball Alden Smith was a revelation. He looks like he's turning back into that monster of San Francisco days of your. But late in band rash is gone again and Jalen Smith graded poorly again. So I'm no you'll be making twenty, one, million had one tackle I just I'm not sure. So you you have to outscore people. So you better be able to move and score the football as opposed to just piling up a bunch of your. Yes. Well it was the first say once again, it was the first game with season. It was like a really a preseason game I mean I gotTa Give Sean mcvay credit. I think I think everybody should because he got the ball out of MC by I mean out of God's hands very quickly get a cowboys family get to him and to me that has been one of my problems with your got. That you got. Two point two one, point, eight, seven, zero, point, eight seconds, you get the ball out that clip it's hard to get to the quarterback and I was shocked ran the ball forty times I'm. Sure Todd Gurley Leonard? What time. there. Yeah. It's a good point Eric so since you guys are visiting the Eagles next week's at me and Shannon are GonNa have a on dinner or are you guys GonNa set anything up here? Don't. Just checking ugly grow. Always, a pleasure to have you, we appreciate it. We'll check in with you. Know. After dot com junior halden, just three catches for twenty two yards despite being targeted ten times. There are now reports that the browns may be actively shopping the pro bowl receiver another her Ford immediately came out saying those rumors of OJ being on the market are false. However, both reports came from radio personalities are down the Cleveland Market so kind of tough to know what to believe right now Shannon your opinion Cleveland partways and Trade Odell. Otis you. WanNa. Get Out. At, some point we're GONNA have to come to the realization. Now we all three, hundred, thirty head coach. You. Had huge at if K and now you guys Stefanski. Now you go got Jarvis Landry. You Ain't got hooper. You Got Old Dale. You got these running backs and nothing seems to be working now wants to confident nominated in all of this do all those head coaches through all those running backs through all those receivers was the common denominator is amazing. How does it work with the most talented player on the field? Notice that 'cause I thought? Oh, he walked don't here and he walked on there and he won the heisman trophy. Don't keep them fully yourself y'all know the problem meals y'all keep on thinking though O'Neill was hurt last year and I believe he's one hundred percent healthy but it doesn't do O'Neill plays a position. Hi, what's going on O'Neill's fault because we don't give the. That kinda credit tall brighter never got the credit they deserve is Tom Brady peyton manning peyton. Okay. Give some of that blame to you know who? If I'm if I'm if I'm. Dale work at I go. Give me a green bay. Give me somewhere. They got a quarterback the daily doing. New England. Goldblum. Kale. So. If I'm, not mistaken. One year ago the next couple of weeks this guy across me Shannon Sharpe we're driving Baker Mayfield band way. Yup You were the leader you were saying shake Beta up he was my guy and suddenly you co-opted made him you're. Not why you didn't fight before He's going to be some slow. That's why you didn't fight before everybody you WANNA fight but I I was I I was I. Know you let me show up. I was for. I'm still I because I'm standing by Baker Mayfield I still believe in him I will say this I do not believe in his management teams approach to marketing him because there are added again last year was an onslaught of progressive commercials by House I live in my stadium they're great commercials, but they just paint the bull's eye bigger and bigger on his back and he's proven nothing. Let's get. What would you say no Patrick mahomes under least Steinberg time friend they decided the first couple of years. Let's lay low right. Some. something. Yes. Before you start Elias and now another bombardment has started with some progressive commercials. Now Hulu has live sports and Baker and Baker and Baker it's not you haven't done enough that you're on your third different offense third different play caller. Different, voice in your ear. It's hard man. The League is hard. Look at the skill look at the guy that waited and how their career turn look at Russ Russ didn't do any do anything Andrew look now he had to retire but his first couple of years. Now you look at life side who was the guy that came out with Andrew Luck immediately started doing commercial subway gatorade this and that he did look at Baker I. Can Get something done I in the Lee is that would warrant this kind of attention he will eat you alive s okay. So just to defend what happened Baker this past Sunday what happened a year ago in week four Baker went to Baltimore when they were on their way to go and fourteen and two, and he lit them off gambling season by far they won forty, two, twenty, five, hundred, forty on Baltimore at Baltimore and threw for three hundred and forty yards he was really good in that game just the way he'd been really good in the starts he got for Hugh Jackson until you got fired Cleveland. During his rookie year. That guy had to go back and game one. It was brady s cabin to go to New Orleans you have to go to Baltimore what you think Baltimore is going to be doing to you. They're going to be spoiling to put you back in your flights. Yeah. But I think we can all agree baker, has regressed in a second and thus far this year. Now one, Gail, it's it's at Baltimore who did I pick to win it all yeah Baltimore. Give she even from first year to second year he wasn't the same quarterback in the second year as he was in his first year members he if I'm not mistaken, he threw the most touchdown passes for a rookie quarterback in NFL history and have been some pretty good rookie quarterback sites come into the NFL Y- Baker threw more touchdowns. He's not the I don't know what it feels maybe deals the commercial skip maybe. You know it's OK people this. Okay. Because you're great in college, you win a heisman trophy that doesn't necessarily mean you going to be great in the NFL and you're going have the same level of success in the NFL as you had in college because guilt look at Tom Brady nobody would have carburetor would have been what he in fail at the coming out of college? No nobody no no, it is okay and then sometimes we get guys come out Russell wherever he went he should have still been NC state but the head coach didn't want him like he wanted to play baseball is if you come for Spring Baugh giving your job to Mike Glennon. Will he gave the job to Mike Glennon he goes to Wisconsin. He takes them to the Rose Bowl in some guys are just they just get it? They did. And I don't know what Baker maybe you're right. Maybe what's commercials too many commercial but maybe he's not gonna be that franchise elite quarterback that everybody thought he would was going to be and he'll just be a good player and that's okay. I said from the Start Odell is a bad match for Baker Baker Loves Odell, they socialize their friends right field into to a fault. He is Adele conscious trying to get him early balls just to get him in right low and after a while to me I like Odell personally this is not a personal shot I just think. He has losers intangibles. He is a solo act in a team game that you played and you were the strongest voice in your locker room, and Odell is no voice in the locker room because he speaks only for Odell I think the thing is get what teams try to do is that they know Dale Emotional player and he needs to get the ball. What we do we w early we're GONNA get buster would with some of the things that they did with Teo guys that are motion and they need to ball less double and take them away early. Yeah, just. Give him a couple of jailbreak screen, Jim, a couple of smokescreens instead of trying to push him down the field. Just let him feel the ball and try to convince him that you know what you're going to be a part of this thing today we don't. We don't keep you ball, but they always tried to push the ball down the field. Just. Let him touch the ball early. So he knows okay I'm are they're gonNA come boy I would trade him in again ask a hefty price for him and I don't know. You never know what you gave up. I got that. But again, they're gonNA want a one back around bell checks going to give them a was skew. You try to what I you know you want to get rid of it. Yeah I give you that gives you that it was just a really tough start for the browns. Look I know it's week one and you know we didn't have pre season but. That wasn't very.

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HR 1: It's all about the buzzwords!

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

44:02 min | 2 weeks ago

HR 1: It's all about the buzzwords!

"Hey sedano cap. And i think chris let us right to where we want to be so here. Here's the deal today guys. We talked about this a little bit the other day where we should find a way to make the draft a little more interesting not only for ourselves but for the audience playing along so at five o'clock the draft is gonna start on. Espn and i felt like what we should do. Today is almost like we're betting on a horse okay. And the way we're betting on a horse is bhai picking a cliche or buzzword or something of that nature that get utilized in the nfl draft a ton right so we each pick a pick a phrase or a word right that will get used probably throughout the show and what happens is as every pick goes up we will have the analysis and will play the analysis of mel and booger and louis riddick and those guys for a minute or two and see if any of us and if any of our catch phrases right are are used and the first person who gets their catchphrase us gets a point for that particular pick. What do you guys think. I'm gonna win. You're gonna win. Yes sir that's right. And because because l z. I'm going to pick a phrase that every one of these analysis guys are gonna use over and over again. They're going to see. Trevor lawrence and say you know he's got tremendous upside potential they're gonna talk about. Kyle pits the tight end florida. You know based on his size at six six to thirty nine compact some more on that frame. He's got tremendous upside potential in that phrase george and l. z. That's my catchphrase of the draft. I think it'll be used the most. Okay l. z. Is there a catchphrase that you'd like to use as your marker basically. This is the horse. You're betting on during the nfl draft as the audience. Plays along with us and gets to pick either scott or you or me to win this particular race tonight by friends. I find whenever there's a player that you kind of know but don't really know but you're on television you can't google you reach back deep down inside and you tell the audience. He loves the game. Oh he loves the game. He loves the game. You know what man. I'm gonna tell you. What the he loves the game. That is my catchphrase. People he loves the game is good one he loves the game is a good one because you know a lot of these guys. Love the game right now but you. Sometimes there's guys that really don't love the game and all that's true i that out. I know this is a guy he just doesn't have the love for the game doesn't have it. I will say this today though in the first round right. It's hard to hear that one air doesn't love the game around and start saying oh he slipped because you know he doesn't he doesn't really loved the game it's not rare by the way is A draft happening in cleveland in the rain. Where there's browns fans behind the espn college and dude wearing a baker mayfield shirt and then all of a sudden he pulls it up and flashes the entire audience. We did not need to see that sir. Put that out there. Okay well. I have my phrase okay and my phrase will be. Because you know what's going to happen they're going to right and mail is going to give you the combine break down right and when mail is on okay. Mel is going to use the phrase this guy dot dot dot has. Here's my phrase all the measurable miserable and mcshea and those guys are absolutely going all the measurable for sure so that is my lane. I had the measurable all the measurable lane. You have what is it. Upsides got what is it. What's the phrase potential and l z. Yours is he loves the game. He loves game. He loves the game. So there you go so out. There is a poll up. I believe that you can vote on. Espn los angeles l z. And you can pick all the measurable ze l. z's phrase which is loves the game and capture frayed phrase which is upside potential. He's got tremendous upside. Potential is what he's got he's got he's got some untapped potential. The guy's got great ball skills. I might mention the way it's time for. Lcd's hold on a second cab. I know you're excited today. Ball are brought to you by sweetjames accident attorneys. If you're ever injured in an accident call sweet. James accident attorneys available twenty four seven sweetjames dot com. They go go. Be in los angeles and you can vote right now on twitter and have some fun with that. So that's what we're gonna do so stick with us throughout the show on that and again vote early. I wouldn't say often but anyhow so here's the deal before we get to the big stories of today. Okay let's start with some of the smaller stories that were also slightly comical like did you know that tiba wanted to come back to the nfl lc. I didn't know you were still alive. You still still kicking listen bad like he's going to milk his days at florida as long as the cows alive. So i'm like god bless you you know. Good luck jacksonville. Jaguars if you think this is the route for either butts in seats or media attention or whatever or if you think he's actually still able to do something to help you win. God bless you carry on. But for heaven's sakes let this be the last day we talk about this story until he actually makes the team and does something now. He's drag this out. His old college coach. You mentioned it. Don't you think he has shot. Please don't drag this out. You know what i'm saying. Just don't drag it out. Yes he may have a shot though. Urban meyer is pretty ruthless. What have you done for me lately. Is really really his his his model whether it's university or the player smell so i don't know if he's going to make it because of what they used to do. Maybe if there's a business model that's presented to him that says hey just have him on the team and this is the potential bumped from great or if he wows them even better but if he's not actually doing something productive for once media can we just let the story die her. Oh my goodness let me tell you. I think he's going to make the team. And by the way you may have may have nailed it. What if the owner of the jaguars. Look tim tebow. The florida heisman trophy winner. The two time national champion. And everybody's just good old guy. What if tim tibo makes the team but he can't play quarterback because he couldn't really play quarterback when he was in the league and now he's like in his early thirties and he's just coming out of a minor league baseball career with the mets. But let's just say we find something to do. I you careers wrestled. Yeah stopped him on tracks. Career internship paid inter inter for the mets for a couple of miles. Played baseball for the mets. For whatever you call it career internship but the thing is it's like let's find something for him to be on our team. Well you know what he's kinda. He's kinda puffy. Ever seen tim tebow. He doesn't look like anybody ever played quarterback he looks like a guy who plays tight end or fullback. So you know what gets shot tight end if he can't do that teach them too long snap. If he can't do that have him hold for field goals if he can't do that have him. Blocked on kickoff returns. Put tim t-boz name on the back of a jaguars jersey and let's get this guy part of our community. I i'm telling you. I think this makes all the sense in the world and i think he'll be on the team week one. I love the nfl. george. I love the nfl. Because they're literally thinking about bringing it back. Dude who is out of the league before cabinet was even draft and now he's about to get back in the league and cap is still on the outside looking and being told as the knee. That's the problem okay. Can we get cap in the league at a different position. Like it's the need the problem but ten tibo also needs. You know what i'm neil. That is true. I'm he's also a nealer. I'm kinda kneeling though right. I'm you know. We can't be kneeling for for social justice. Kneeling god different story. God doesn't like social justice. I'll tell you what though he will. He will make this team. I mean really. If it's for real you think about his size his athleticism. Yeah yeah. We set this on draft night. He's the one that didn't want to be tied in people's this already user. The jets the patriots. What happened but you know what happened to him. Early in his career is is. He had that one year in denver where he got the broncos to the playoffs and threw a touchdown pass in the playoffs against pittsburgh that won the game and you know you look did his college career and all the numbers he'd put up you go. How is that. He absolutely cannot play in the nfl and it turns out because he couldn't really read. Defense is what the big any also not very accurate. Okay well he's not. He's not fast either right. He he never really got another shot to play. Quarterback had been a part capper. Nick well he was always brought in as a backup guy or a guy who could do. Maybe a couple of things outside of just playing quarterback why head let me see what you got kid and then bill belichick says. I can't say i'm good right like like honestly if bill belichick who let's face. It has been relatively creative. He took julian edelman who was a quarterback and turned them into one of the best receivers in franchise history for hall of famer. Yeah i mean. I think that's now that was a shot right there. Potential hall of famer. I'm sorry wide receiver multiples rings and mvp and don't have no shot of being a hall of famer you're right receiver for the franchise that many perceived to be the best franchise nfl history. Yeah but he can't be come on central for him to be a hall of fame. Look i voters on. I'm voting for domain. You got my vote you got both. I would not vote for him but the point is is that bella checks certainly has been creative in the past and if it didn't work with tiba bella check i mean we're urban meyer because it's college coach right like maybe he'll give it a shot but got do. Can you imagine what it would be like for urban meyer to have to tell him tibo. I got to cut you. Do you know how hard like tim. Ten people made urban. Meyer's sure he sees it that way. All season man. Oh you know. Urban meyer doesn't see it that way. Irving mills gigantic crazy. Go maniac. that he is. He doesn't seem that way now. He's thinking he made t-boz career. Okay and no. By the way right. I mean given what they both have done apart from each other. You know it's hard to argue. You know the the the who had the who's actually chef in the kitchen when they were separated. You saw what happened down the last thing on tibo if somebody gave me a chance to go to an nfl training camp or if somebody gave you a chance to go to an nba training camp. You'd be like man. I would love to be able to do that. Especially when you really really can't tim. Tibo will not give up the dream not have been a pro. Nfl football player not have being a major league baseball player. That one i think the ship has sailed now harbor. That thing was shipwrecked. What he's about man. Listen anytime a guy can go into minor league baseball and hit a home run. Even if it's only one that's still impresses me. Because i mean it impresses you but it's not impressive enough to actually be a good baseball iraq's correct fair enough i mean i would say tiba was on the michael jordan. All star baseball team right. He was better than michael jordan. I'll give him that. Yeah so. I just think though that the guy refuses to give up a dream and what else is he gonna do. I mean just started with the other part. What else is he going to do. They're all here pooh-poohing his hoop dreams or his football. Dreams base. Pursue your dreams. My criticism has nothing. Do with him really. But it's about the media coverage that's my criticism. Stop pretending as of everything he touches is gold. It's not he hasn't go since florida. Yeah it's been a long time. I coming up next now. The real big story yes. Aaron rodgers wants out what are the repercussions. And how does it affect the teams here in southern california and perhaps our friends in las vegas. We'll get to that coming up in less than three minutes sodano and cap with here on. Espn we have a caller who wants to chat about our tim. Tebow discussion do that. A second but real quick the nfl draft coming up at five o'clock. Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna try to make the draft fund so you can pick teams e. t. cap or team sodano basically in our little game the game. We're playing as this and you can vote at. Espn los angeles on twitter to pick your your favorite in this particular race. We are all picking a catchphrase or buzzword or cliche that will get used tonight and every time there's a pick we're gonna put we're going to pot up the pick we're gonna listen to the analysis for about a minute and then whoever's catchphrase gets used gets appoint so for example my catch phrases all the measurable right so if trevor lawrence gets picked and mel kiper says he's got all the measurable 's before he says l. z's phrase which is he loves the game short hands or caps phrase. He has upside potential tremendous upside potential. Right if whoever's phrase gets us i gets the point. See if i were scouting you george. I'd say this jorge sedano guy. You know what i like about him. He's a high motor guy. He's a high motor guy. And when i look at this guy. L z. granderson. What i really like about him is. He's a locker room guy. This l z granderson. And kaplan i think about kaplan. He's got the intangibles. I think so. These are all great draft day catchphrases but upside potential for me takes the cake. Okay so you can vote at espn los angeles. And you could score at home. greg and laura. We'll be keeping score in the studio. Now greg you and laura have a vote for who you think will win. We're having our own little bit into the studio to see who we think is going to go. And i am taking georgia's all the measurable. I think that all the measurable is used for every single person especially in the beginning of the first round. Yeah now sorry sodano. I think l z has with this one. Okay we love the game so you want to join me. Does anybody outside. Potential hold on hold on the people on twitter again early returns only a couple of minutes you can vote at. Espn los angeles. You're winning right now. Forty one point. Nine percent of the vote is upside potential. I'm in second with forty point. Three with all the measurable 's and l z right now is in third at seventeen point. Seven loves the game so vote early and often on twitter. Aaron rodgers so aaron rodgers joe. Today aaron rodgers broke the internet. Basically adam schefter today tweeted that aaron rodgers is sick and tired of what the hell is going on in in green bay and that he is ready to move on at this point. So it's set the world. Ablaze is set the world on fire. It was news that i don't think we expected on a daylight today but it went like this raining. Mvp aaron rodgers so disgruntled with the green bay packers that he told someone in the organization that he's not does not want to return to the team. Okay so that's pretty big news now immediately. I felt like okay. Well now this makes sense because the niners cap called on aaron rodgers this week according to adam schefter and let's not forget l. z. That the rams called on aaron rodgers back in january when he was a little disgruntled with the conversations. Right marine made the comment after losing the playoff game about what. I'd like to play my whole career here but you just never know that's going to be the case anymore. So i don't know if i'd bet on it right like he said something to that effect so you know the rams called rejected and they went and got matt stafford this aaron rodgers thing i i think this is going to be a real battle here between the packers and rogers because i think roger's over them one hundred percent at this point. We better not be a battle if i live in wisconsin. If i live in the mid west. If i'd like to call myself a packers fan you better hope. This is not a battle. Don't you let that san francisco draft pick go and you got a quarterback that you know you've known for a while because trey wingo reported that they told him they were gonna trade him in the off season right. So you've known the situation for months and months and months. And if i were a packers fan and we had trade aaron rodgers. Because he ain't coming in and we fall in anything short of a top pick because our front office wanted to play chicken with rogers. I will be even more pissed about how he lost. Aaron rodgers in the fact that we lost him. You know he. He's been pissed off at this organization for the last five years. And it started with mike mccarthy and even after mccarthy left the packers things still did not get better between aaron rodgers and the organization as a whole. That's number one number. Two aaron rodgers would love to go home to northern california and played for the forty niners. Not just because that's the team. He grew up rooting for but because like so many athletes who want to be in the biggest markets. They want to be there for a reason. Lebron can produce content in la era. Rogers wants to be in the silicon valley entrepreneurial investment world and he already is and so i could see aaron rodgers to get out of the franchise that that has already drafted his replacement to go to where he would much rather set up his after football life. There's a lot of smoke here. And i also think one last thing the forty niners as an organization they were in the super bowl two years ago. They got decimated by injuries last year. They're built and ready to win now and they're very impatient would not surprise me. One bit if this deal ultimately gets done. I think it's just hard to pull off today right like. Do you think that basically you're trying to tell me that from when this news broke okay because to your point does yes. They knew in theory right but they have been rejecting offers in january from the rams this week from the niners right so now. The news leaks. Now you're really under the gun if you're the green bay packers okay. So the news leaks. I would say it was about noon. Pacific time all right. The first the niners are probably going to pick around five thirty. Do you believe. Do you honestly believe you've covered. Sports are very long time. You can make this deal to send aaron rodgers to the niners which would certainly put a wrench in the rams plans and do you believe that can happen in five and a half hours absolutely okay. Absolutely i could be in london five and a half hours. Well if you were in new york yeah. Yeah not from la young. Yeah this. They've known this for months. So i'm going to assume that they are not new to try and do the math about what they want. I'm going to assume they're not happy about the situation but they're not totally blindsided by the situation. What's blindsided them has been the leaks on draft day but the situation. And how do i need to resolve. It should not blindsided them because as trey wingo reported as cap has been talking about and basically we all know he has not been happy with his franchise for a long time and oh by the way the franchise hasn't been happy with him. It's a two way street and so they should not let that number three pick. That's where they're picking right. San francisco's number. Three and number three. Do not let the niners pick gow. Don't let it go man. so yes you it. Is you better get this deal done. You better get it done fast and this is really really easy. Because you're just picking up the phone and says we had the mvp. What do you got for forty niners. And even order forty niners can say you have no leverage. We're not giving you a whole lot to cavs point. That's not how they're built going to say okay. Here take the next. Seventeen draft picks gives rogers so we can finally get this chip. Well here's what happen. Okay will era thirty seven years old. She's not going to go for the three or four first round picks the dijon watson previous to this situation. He's in would have likely gone for okay. I think that at least two at a pick swap or probably three is possible for aaron rodgers even at this stage now cap knowing that is the case you also believe that the jeopardy thing is something that could be a factor here. Like if you're aaron you tell the packers. I wanna try me. I'm just gonna leave. And then you're stuck with jordan love way earlier than you anticipated really. That's my leverage is. Hey you know what i'm going to be the host of jeopardy. That's i mean. Listen i'm gonna say that. Aaron rodgers back to northern california and is kind of tired of the small town that is green bay and you know his life is changed. He's gone through different relationships and he's married now. And i could just imagine him saying you know why engaged i believe whatever it is know harry. I thought he got married. But okay calm down okay. All right but the thing is is that living there and it is. It's a. It's a tiny tiny little. Hamlet of town green casket warsaw early. Which app did you your friday. All i'm saying is i really believe that. He wants away from that franchise. That's no secret. I believe he does. Want to be back in san francisco and i think the niners organization is hungry to win immediately. They're not building. they don't wanna build. They want to win. Now and air rodgers can help them do that all right. So if not the niners. Where eight seven. Seven seven seven. Espn we'll get into that a little bit. Plus overrated underrated properly rated coming up in three minutes and thirty seconds. Thank you chris. Overrated underrated rated is the game that is sweeping the south land and the host of that program not aaron rodgers who host jeopardy not aaron rodgers. Who may be out of green bay. But one gregory bergman. Hello dick hello george alright. So l z. Since the rams are always your five we're gonna start with you. Let's play with rams first. Round draft picks aaron donald number thirteen in two thousand fourteen. Eric dickerson number. Two in one thousand nine hundred eighty three and jack youngblood. That's for cap. Because he's the old guy at number twenty in one thousand nine hundred. Seventy one overrated underrated properly rated. Both three picks yes. Yeah which one is. We got to pick one own. My god in dot who. Ooh that's a hard one greg. The point okay. I'm gonna say. Aaron donald overrated wall cap was going to say that some just stomach likes. He likes to throw like those little grenades and they make us responds. I decided to take his bed and then give me. The old guy is properly rated in semi. Oh guy as underrated like all right here goes eric dickerson overrated. The wrong one. Megan under you're gonna pick someone who's not to be. The only reason is is because eric dickerson was a great great great player his entire career. Yeah now he's a player right. My man yeah but the thing is he went on and had great years in for the colts. So it's kind of like. He's celebrated like a lifelong round. But it's really because he just he took on to l. a. And never really left more. So than he was a career. Great ram i love eric dickerson. But somebody overrated jack. Youngblood played in a super bowl with a busted leg properly rated and aaron. Donald is underrated because as great as he is people still don't understand a man that size should not be able to terrorize an entire football game by himself. No one's ever done it like he's like he does. So that's that's how i see it. Who so this is tough. I'm going to say jack. Youngblood is underrated. Okay because we forget that football was played before nineteen hundred eighty four. It feels like a lot of times so and to your point. He played on a broken leg. Okay like the few guys that have pulled that off. T o obviously being one of them. I'm going to say now. I've put myself in a bind and god. I'm yeah i'm going to have to go with eric. Dickerson out of the three being overrated. Only because i just feel like for as great as running backs are historically the great running backs to win championships for you. And that's really my measurement. And i know that's not installed but that's just when you when you built around a running back more times than not you're not gonna win. Now aaron donald. I'm gonna goes properly rated. Because i think he is arguably the greatest player in the nfl. He doesn't get that kind of love because he's not a quarterback but he is v. Single most destructive defensive force force. I have seen since like lawrence taylor basically. What's next greg. All right so kevin. Costner has been in some really great sports movies. Feel dream durham tin cup for the love of the game. And then there's drafty and yet and yet and yes sodano. I saw your tweet zappa. And that's what. Put this out of your for me. A movie about an nfl gm for the cleveland browns on draft day. George is this movie. Overrated underrated properly rated. Oh it's the worst. Is there like a worst option. Oh my god. Is the single worst. Sports movie would be goldberg. Hold my coffee. No no no. Loretta eddie was pretty terrible but he was supposed to knit peres. No forget bears iconic. Okay billy. christope told kareem this in his farewell game when kareem said. You can't throw me out. It's my farewell game. And he said well. Let me be the first bid you farewell. It was fantastic. Okay and i'm a sucker for a romantic comedy. I love billy crystal. Yeah billy crystal's amazing. I love koster. Okay so the funniest part of this real quick quick side story when i was working on. Espn radio i went to the new york. I was doing the show back then with mark we were doing the four o'clock pacific seven eastern show on espn radio and we were on radio row. And they booked us. Costner and koster was on believable. Okay unbelievable told that hilarious story of meeting slayeth in washington and said that he still he was afraid of mark because when mark he came into the washington locker room and when he was introduced to mark mark dropped his towel because he was getting out of the shower and cost there was like super like comfortable and he remembered the moment so it was hilarious. Any curse on national radio at least three times. So i love coster however. This movie stinks. It's awful. It is the worst sports movie. Ever it is completely overrated. Wow wow wow see. I don't costner although you greg. You listed off some great sports movies that he's been apart of no denying that but i don't love koster and same story george when they were shopping around radio row at the super bowl. I was like kevin. Costner is going to be the gm of the cleveland browns. That sounds horrible. So you know what i did. I never saw the movie until i accidentally did. I don't know how. I was flipping channels. It was on. i watched it. guess what. I don't know why i love this movie. i'm so cheesy. Maybe so perhaps. But i loved it. So i'm going to say properly rated. In fact maybe even underrated going to go overrated. Only because it's so bad why are we talking about. It is routed is not a good movie. that's why because it's draft day on a good movie. It just isn't so good is a good concept. Yes it's a really good concept terrible execute what. They took too many shortcuts. They they hollywood or fight. It happens. I liked it all right so we talked about. Nfc's a lot. So trevor lawrence signed a multiyear multimillion dollar deal with block folio crypto tracking app. And we and we'll be paid from block. Folio in crypto currency. Is this move from. Trevor lawrence overrated underrated properly rated. I think i'm on cap now underrated. This is unbelievable. Actually you know your your banking on this kid as the next big superstar of the nfl and he's gonna play in jacksonville so that's one two. You're going after a guy that you think is going to be a young face of of sports and if that's if it all works out but man this guy i think it's so progressive on everybody's part block folio to go get lawrence lawrence to take payment and crypto currency. This is this is two thousand twenty one. Everybody this is the draft 2021 you get paid in crypto. So i guess. I'm saying underrated busy. Well i i wanted to know what his wife looked like. So i found this picture. Some going to say is properly rated. Because i get the feeling. She was in on the negotiations and she looks like a very smart put together woman. She doesn't look like she just hanging on. She looks like she's actually a partner in this and she looks smart. I bet they had a nice conversation and she was like a chance. You get the cash from the league. You only get cash mother sources. Why not give this a shot. It's a gamble but you know what if it pays off is a huge payoff and if it doesn't pay off what are we really losing. I let me explain this year. Because i am actually unbelievably crypto literate in the senate. If i don't say so myself. I mean i am because i'm i've been knee deep for months in this shocker. And so what i would say to you is this. You guys have already outlined tremendous reasons as to why it's smart and it makes sense and it's underrated. I also say underrated. But what i would say is this while not every year is a plus year. Some years are the negative a little bit over a span of ten years. Bitcoin alone has averaged eight increase of two hundred and thirty percent year over year. For ten years okay. So there's not any other asset that you can find that has done that okay. You can look them all up all right. I'm not making that up. That was our actual facts. I'm not giving financial advice. Am i giving trevor lawrence financial advice. But i'm telling you that's why it's smart and that's why it's underrated. Who is seeing the national anthem. It looks like the woman from heart back to her. And i don't look like her. No no no. I don't know you woman tell us who you are all right. So the draft is twenty minutes away. Eight seven seven hundred ten. Espn eight seven seven. Three seven seven six and we talk about aaron rodgers. Aaron rodgers to the niners is a possibility. The niners of called. Aaron wants out of green bay. I know raider fans wanna get on him although we can tackle that a little bit on the other side because greg is a big raider fan. I'm sure he's going to make the case. A bullish. case for the raiders. Some in some way shape or form plus the lakers. They played yesterday despite elza believing they did not play yesterday now because they didn't actually he didn't believe they actually played. But because you don't believe they actually showed up so we'll get into some of that on the other side as well as a correction. Trevor lawrence is married to get married april fourteenth. Okay yeah and he's buried to like the high school sweethearts someone you say. She looks like she's pretty smart. She like twenty one. She's like yeah crypto currency. We're twenty one. Let's do now. She's in her degree. Npr's so she's on it. I'm forty three. And i'm hell. Yeah crypto currencies. So you don't have to be twenty one there. I feel like they're ahead of the game so we'll get into all that coming up in two and a half minutes. Yeah stay traff in because it is. We miss superhero day yesterday because we weren't on the air so we'll do a superhero draft. Later on dress up you know so. It's funny on twitter and instagram. To obviously but on twitter specifically there are a ton of ads now right now you can get rid of them you can remove them or whatever but occasionally i like to keep them up certain ones because i just wanna see what certain brands are up to so one that popped up right now with dairy queen and my goodness they are voting a ice cream cake. Basically blizzard cake right. So let me ask you a quick question. Because i have to second on this l z. Because we know that you don't love the sweets all the time. But i feel like kaplan is a fellow fat person at heart like me ice cream cake or regular cake. Oh oh first of all dairy queen. Let's talk about that for a second. Grew up on dairy queen. Chocolate milkshake dairy queen. Amazing else when they give you a soft serve ice cream and then they put it in that candy coating like the red one and it gets hard real quick and then you bite on it. It's awesome. i'll take an ice cream cake all day over regular cake. I like a moist cake. Don't get me wrong. I like moist cold and creamy. I like even more. Yes that's right. That's interesting a lot that went up. And you put that one in something soon that particularly just the last few words of that particular phrase l z quake ice cream cake more than real cake regular cake ice cream anita to but i was gonna say you could have you could have regular cake and then also add ice cream alam mode situated correct. Yeah i feel like regular versatile that way. It's not like you can buy an ice cream cake. And they put regular on of it. I mean i guess you could. Clearly your diet is already shot the hell anyway. You might as well up through all of it on there except for reasons. You raise people love talking to you. Yeah raisins laura. Oh greg i ice cream has to be the ice cream team. Ice cream cake team. Ice cream cake really regular is just most of the time. It's just not that good. There's most cake is not done correctly. Dude i own bacon up. Yeah i was just gonna say that. Because even if i feel like even grocery store cake now is so much better than it was when i was a kid like there shortly bakeries at like ralph's and von's and albertson's and pavilions in these places like man they are so good they are legitimately good bakeries now inside of a supermarket i can virtually here sodano tyrian up about this. I know he's taking his very stephen. He's taking it really hard you know had greg apologize no review not that one of the cake but the even the grocery store cakes they just have too much frosting on smell. We're kind of getting. We're kind of getting these. are the wrong ones. these are i. Don't go to the store to buy cakes. But if it's like a birthday for my kid we usually go with like a cookie cake but even so if you go to a party they have it's. It's the cake but then it has so much frosting cut off half the no. It's not a full like once. You put that die inside but much like george sure to but i feel like the right amount of frostings necessarily know the right amount of frosting is necessary. But if you're putting on extra frosting. Because that's the kate we'll know about that. Okay well i'll tell you this. I add a dark chocolate mixed with natella frosting a cake and that was the frosting. The cake was fantastic. The actual cake part but the frosting that combination. I had never had before things were happening. In my taste buds that were like explosions. Okay like like legitimate other worldly. You could put natella on pretty much anything. And it's awesome. Man tell is amazing elsie. Wow i mean listen. If new tele is like the. I don't know it's like the rondo condiments why it has its moments. Look relying on it all the time especially not now why man let me tell you something. Sure but all the time. The late great. Kobe bryant grew up on the tele. And don't just tell me because he grew up in italy because he got it here too. Okay all i'm saying is when it comes to the whole list of condiments new tele is not being heard tonight in my draft so tomorrow draft mustard and catch up. I got hot deserts. Like how many there for desserts waste. I think you guys are looking at all. I think it belongs more in the peanut butter family. I'm not sure it's desert or a condiments so you guys. You know where to put this number of address. Fred got it. It was this condiment. You guys should reconsider your draft to spread next to peanut butter almond butter. It's like it's like the mike leach of spreads. There you go there. It is super spread. I mean just like wide receivers everywhere running backs running routes like just no just i mean hail maybe even four offensive linemen every once in a while. You never know. New tells amazing you could take an tele and you could stick spoon into a jar of nikola and pull out a big hunk of nice and fresh and soft. Oh it's delicious and when you do this new tell us for the chocolate lovers who are too lazy to melted chocolate. Maybe so but it's damn good. It's bomb no no. No you'd rather yourself is bomb because you don't wanna feel bad for being too lazy to motion on us good. I will open up the phones right now eight seven. Chris are their sponsors. So i stop talking now. No no is delicious. You're kinda crazy on this. I'm sorry man just because they put more cigarettes and food color to make eliminate chocolate doesn't mean it actually is whatever it is. I don't know what it could be. Whatever it is serious. You don't even know what the taste is. All your your addicted to the shuker. It's just a survey of course but is only the sugar because everything else. You guys can't even mail. You can't the flavor you can't even figure out what kind of comedy. I just told you what it is. It's hazelnut chocolate. You said that and then cat was like. I don't know what it is. you know. i don't really care what it is either. So you don't even care what it is. Yeah i mean if i walk into a place in they're like we've got natella flavored frozen yogurt or natella gelato. Ice cream is not not even chocolate and the tele. The tells amazing. Yeah like spams amazing. Oh totally japan is not amazing. It's flexible you don't know what kind of meat it is gonna take place. It guys described you tell. No spam is amazing like filter. Fish is amazing. You know what i mean like. Everybody's got one thing that their people eat that nobody else wants to eat spam filter fisher amazing in the same family. That's very true but those are both very good things and they're very versatile to go all right. See this is just a matter of taste. That's all it comes. Let let's go to break. Because we i want to settle this. I want people to settle this eight. 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11 Trivia Questions on College Nicknames

Trivia With Budds

10:53 min | 1 year ago

11 Trivia Questions on College Nicknames

"It's eleven trivia questions on college nicknames. If you're a college sports fanatic this episode as for you and it was written by my friend john bow this is trivia with buds and be and welcome to another episode of the trivia with buds podcast. I'm your host ryan buds today. I've got two episodes for you. So if you missed an episode yesterday on saturday i apologize just got to backed up with some crazy events i had gone on so today. Get two episodes. The first of which is about college nicknames and sports and the second of which which is coming up in just a little bit is called name. The walt disney animated classic from the i._m._d._b. I._m._d._b. I am db trivia. Phrase that phrase sentence. That's what i'm trying to say so. I'll give you a little trivia from i._m._d._b. And you will tell me what movie we're talking about <hes> but before we get to that college nicknames. This is a fun one written by my friend john bow who is a trivia player in the southern california area. He plays with with the <hes> l. a. <hes> inland empire pub quiz meet up group and you can find them on facebook if you search something just like that hat and john is a really smart dude. He's a teacher and he gave me a big packet of trivia questions that he wrote just for me about six months ago. He's like hey always talked about how you never ever get to play trivia so i wrote some just for you and i came across one that i did not use on the podcast about college nicknames where the name the college from the clue so if you're into collegiate collegiate type stuff if you're like andy on the office and you can't stop we live in your college days. You'll have fun with today's episode speaking of andy from the office. We had a huge huge office trivia night last night. That was one of the big events i was talking about. At last name brewing in upland california we had one hundred and five trivia players jam packed the brim of people who love the office and the winning team. I'm happy to announce was called. The michael scott drinking company so that is a pretty cool team name. There were a lot of fun once we had scott's tots with scott's thoughts. We had <hes> two different threat level midnights. We had the serenity entity by jan. Which was her can't company. There were just so many good ones scranton scranton's city to your office. These names were great and we had a big stage setup and <hes> we gave a ton of cool stuff. If you wanna see pictures just check any of my social media at ryan buds on just about everything posted a lot of fun pictures and we gave away a four funk oh pops of daryl kevin dwight and michael and some gender mifflin t shirts and some tickets to go see an office musical physical parody in anaheim coming up in a few months so it was a hoot and a holler and thank you if you listen to the show and he came out to that office themed trivia tonight we will be doing a disney theme trivia night last name brewing probably end of november early december so that'll be our next big ticketed one towards the end of the fall beginning of winter so be on the lookout for that all info and special events tribute buds dot com. We are going to jump into today's episode. It's all about college nicknames from john. How again you're going to name the college from the clue. Let's see how many you can get right out of eleven here. We go all right college nicknames. Let's see how many of these you can get right years number. One the titans have won the college world series in the seventies seventies eighties nineties and two thousands. What college is that. If we were talking about the titans who have won the college world series in the seventies eighties nineties and two thousands and question number one question over to go indians. Wait go cardinals. Wait go cardinal question number to go indians. Wait go cardinals. Wait go cardinal naming the college from the clue that was number two question for three jerry. Kramer was a vandal but don't hold it against him number. Three jerry kramer was a vandal but don't hold convinced him number three number four. This moore's were coached by john wooden before he came to u._c._l._a. Number four the sycamore. 's were coached by john wooden before he came to u._c. L. a. number four question five the huskies are the only team to win a men's and women's basketball championship in the same year number five the huskies are the only team to to win a men's and women's basketball championship in the same year number five question number six ray manzarek manzarek of the doors graduated from this chicago roman catholic university whose sports team teams are called the blue demons number six raymond's eric. The doors graduated from this chicago. Roman catholic university whose sports teams are called the blue demons question number seven this texas school known as the mustangs is eric dickerson among its alumni number seven number seven even question eight this north carolina college is known as the blue devils is the only one i would would know because i don't watch sports but here's number eight in north carolina college in question is known as the blue devils number nine. The mongols is the name of the football team from this fictional college number nine. The mongols ammo ngo l. s. is the name of this football team from this fictional college number nine question. Pretend the running rebels were known for with their high scoring basketball team number ten the running running rebels were known for their high scoring basketball team and question eleven year bonus question two points. If you playing along at home number eleven what animal is the most used college nickname what animal all is the most used college nickname all right. Those are some tough questions but i hope you had fun answering them from john bow in southern california california. We'll be right back in a second with the answers all right here. We go guys. College nicknamed the college from the clue question number one the titans have won the college world series in the seventies eighties nineties thousands the answer there was cal state fullerton cal state fullerton not too far from where i live here in southern california on your number one question for to go indians. Wait go cardinals. Wait go cardinal that would be stanford stanford university stanford number two college nicknames number three jerry kramer was vandal but don't hold it against him the answer there was the university of idaho university of idaho jerry kramer and the vandals number three number four the sycamore. 's were coached by john wooden before he came to u._c._l._a. And we're talking about indiana state indiana state number four four number five the huskies the only team to win a men's and women's basketball championship in the same year that would be the university of connecticut all the way up in the the <hes> northeastern part of the country number six raymond's eric the doors graduated from this chicago roman catholic university whose sports teams are called the blue blue demons that would be depaul university <hes> de paul and i obviously should have known that being from chicago and still had no idea number seven this texas school known as the mustangs has eric dickerson among its alumni that was southern methodist university s. m. u. smoo- do number eight the only one i knew this north carolina college is known as the blue devils duke duke number eight. I know that because my brother was a big duke fan in the nineties they were very successful he a lot of duke memorabilia and shirts hoodies and things and that was his nickname in highschool brother. Tom duke number nine. The mongols is the name aim of the football team from this fictional college <hes> farber which is from animal house if you know that movie from nineteen seventy nine. I think it was nineteen. Seventy seventy eight farber was the fictional college and number ten. We had university of nevada las vegas. The running rebels were known for their high scoring basketball team. That's the university of nevada las vegas your bonus question for two points. What animal is the most used college nickname and that would be eagles. There are seventy six sixteens named the eagles according to john great great quiz john very fun stuff. I learned a lot and i hope you did too listeners of the show. It's time for the question of the day brought to you by funky monkey designs of sandy miss california. Here's today's question of the day what hollywood actor has the nickname of the boss loss. Sorry not hollywood actor. What musician has the nickname of the boss. I'm going to change that live on this recording. Don't put hollywood actor. I i guess he's probably acted in something but what musician has the nickname of the boss tweet me your answer at ryan buds or email. Ryan buds g. dot com with your answer to be eligible for a a prize yesterday's question of the day answer was the last final playable course in the original super mario kart on super nintendo which was rainbow road in yesterday's question the day answer winner was joe. Jurmala wits joe be on the lookout for something fun in the mail for me. I'm gonna give you hint. It is something with stickers so hope you like stickers. Attributing attributing name of the day is the michael scott drinking company and that was the one that won the big office trivia event last name brewing. I'm doing a disney event this saturday august thirty first. I at j riley distillery in redlands california. I would love for you to come check that out with twenty four tickets sold and room for about one hundred so another sellout would be fantastic tickets at the banner the topic trivia with buds dot com. Thank you guys so much for listening to the show. Thanks for telling a friend and we'll see you tomorrow for trivia with buds cheers <music> <music>.

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Introducing The Lead

Bald Movies

05:45 min | 1 year ago

Introducing The Lead

"You know that we're all about human drama here bald move and I have long maintained it. When it comes to drama. It's hard to beat live sports for thrills and chills just in my lifetime. I'll never ever forget the time to Eric. dickerson scored four touchdowns against the broncos on Halloween night. When Reggie Miller scored eight points eight point nine seconds to beat the Knicks and game one of the ninety I five Eastern Conference semi-finals or win my colts finally got past the Patriots in a two thousand six. AFC Championship game coming all the way back from an eighteen point deficit to win the game name and go on to win our first Super Bowl in Indianapolis. That's why we're excited to share with you. A new daily sports podcasts from one DRI and the athletic called called the lead is for the kind of sports fan who wants to go beyond the box score every weekday morning the lead will bring you one big time story from Athletics All Star Team of local the national sports reporters some stories will be a fresh take on a major news event and other episodes feature an in depth look into what's been happening off the field. The lead has hosted by Sportswriter Kavita Aviva Davidson and peabody award winning journalists unders Kelco who will take you close to the story through comprehensive reporting fasten clips and exclusive interviews. You won't hear anywhere else else now. You're about to hear a preview of the lead that looks into what really went down after that blown call and the two thousand eighteen. NFL playoff game between the rams and the saints while you're listening go subscribe to the lead on Apple podcasts or wherever you're listening to this podcast right here. There's also a link and episode notes for your convenience born in last season's. NFL Playoffs as every football fan remembers the New Orleans Saints were on the verge verge of a trip to the super bowl breeze but that no the one of the worst calls in sports history going crazy as there's no right on the saint sideline but it was all anyone could talk about for days bad call that had saints fans screaming last night. I'll glaring case of pass interference one of the most obvious case you'll ever see and and it wasn't penalized and it led to an unprecedented response for saints fans ca billboards boycott federal lawsuits against the NFL including writing reports of a possible class action lawsuit against the NFL filed by people who lost big money betting on the saint the issue even ended up on the floor of the US Senate. The state of Louisiana is outraged because of what happened in the Superdome last Sunday so today we're going to talk with Larry holder a football columnist who lives in New Orleans about why saints fans have taken their quest for justice thanou extremes and we'll hear why neither the rule change that came from all of this nor yesterday's rematch between the two teams has changed how saints fans hands feel from wondering on the athletic. I'm Cathy Davidson. Am It's Monday September sixteenth and this is the lead felt like something was happening. There is something of emotion and it don't matter now you're talking. This isn't a story rear view the athletes it stays with you Kavita. What's up volunteers well before we get started. This is is the very first episode of the lead and since you and I are the hosts. I thought maybe we should just quickly explain what the show is so. The lead is the show I always wish existed and I always wished I could have listened to you. I'm a sports writer obviously but I was a sports fan. I and it's really all about great stories great stories from great sports reporters who are all over the country an on the ground. I mean these are journalists who live in these cities and no these teams we know these players but you don't have to be a fan of those teams or those players to care about these stories for example in this first episode you talk to Larry Holder holder who has covered the New Orleans saints for Almost fifteen years about why this terrible call provoked such an unprecedented reaction yes yeah and talking to Larry. Really helped me understand why saints fans did what they did. It's really something anyone could identify with so. Should we get to the story story. Let's go for it so Larry. Let's start with a very basic question question. How important is football is the game of football to the city of New Orleans. I'll just put it this way. When Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans August two thousand and five and of course everyone is recovering from the storm people. Are Literally taking their FEMA checks to by saint season season tickets. That's how important the saints are to this community and I'd say without the saints returning to the city at that point. I don't think the city would have ever you actually rebounded so I would say unlike many if any NFL fan base within the League all right so let's go back to this incredible no call its last year's. NFC Championship game the saints and the Rams are tied in the fourth quarter and the saints look like they're about to score four and book a trip to the Super Bowl convert and there's a good chance to saints are GonNa. Come Away with more points on.

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