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Pete Sweeney discusses Eric Berry and Justin Houston on 610 Sports Radio's Show and Vern

Arrowhead Pride

10:49 min | 2 years ago

Pete Sweeney discusses Eric Berry and Justin Houston on 610 Sports Radio's Show and Vern

"Justin, Houston interviewer. You tweeted out earlier today from your experience listening to Brad VH? You do not believe that Justin Houston will be a part of the chiefs in twenty nineteen. How is he let go what's the avenue in which they get rid of them? I think the ideal situation for where the chiefs would be to get trade going, and it's funny. How I think just a few weeks ago when Brett beach was on a conference call excuse me. And he's talking about d four anything. Oh, we're excited to have him back. And then you heard the tone today. I mean, I've lived you guys played it live just was we're have dialogue on we're open to that. What that means is listen, he's not going to be here. And a trade is the best case scenario, but it's interesting last night as reports starting to canal lock hand for a Kansas City's favorite person CBS sports. He was the first to kind of allude to a trade being a possibility, then you had Ian Rapoport doubling down in Rappaport has years of both GM's and agents go to if you want any information out, and he said, oh, there's teams that have real interest. And then you have Mike Florio of pro football talk saying no that she is trying to drum up interest. I think because of the cap it and that not matching with. Player anymore again like he has an elite cat number four and really an above average player at this stage of his career. It's going to be tough to get real value here. But you hope it's at least a draft pick. And you know, you think about six rounder, you know, I think fourth rounder might might make sense if you can get that high. But I don't think you're gonna get a real value that maybe you would have had this been twenty fifteen when Justin Houston was young and before all the injury problems and really relatable almost to a JJ watt back, then I know it's hard to remember that time. But that was how good he was before these injury problems again, he's soon above average player. But I just don't think he said I gotta be with the chiefs when the twenty nineteen season begins because I saw a lot of people up. Sorry, Pete run. Usually I saw a lot of people. Who were who who are like oh third round pick. Yeah. Man. That's we listen isn't the value. Getting the money off like to me that's apart. Who is the sucker as I just said it last who's the sucker who's going to take him at twenty one million? I give up a seven supplemental draft pick bag of groceries. If they're going to take the money off the money is the big key. Like if you get a pick. That's I mean, I'll give all praises to Andy. If they get Andy and bread if they get a pick. It's the money. Right. I think the money coming off too. I mean, you clean it clears out fourteen about fourteen million worth of cap space. I believe whether they they end up cutting him or trading, but that being said, we with that in mind, and I I agree with you. I think you look at teams who that have a lot of cap space because the problem, I I don't necessarily think is is Justin Houston productive players any more. I think at the age of thirty he's still in a of average linebacker pass rusher in the National Football League. It's just that he's any lead anymore and the chiefs wanna do some other stuff with that money like signing draft picks like extending tyreek hill Chris Jones. He's younger players tagging before who still in the prime of his career. And I think you know, there was no cap. This is baseball just in Houston would be on the team. So where do you look at teams you look at teams with a lot of cap space who can afford to maybe pay a little bit more for two years of an above average linebacker, and it's easy to look right through the Indianapolis Colts in Cleveland Browns because these teams with chiefs connections of who probably know just in Houston, and they have a lot of cap despair. Pete Sweeney of Arrowhead pride. Pete. Why wouldn't they just wait for the chiefs to release them? Do you really think there's a bidding war happening for Justin Houston? I think the trade happens. If one of these teams don't wanna take the chance of him going elsewhere. I mean, I think you know, I don't wanna look at Justin Houston say there's no value to him anymore. There certainly is it's just chief can't afford what he brings to the table for the amount that pay. So a team would trade him. If they say, it is, you know, this is just hypothetically fade is a race between the Browns and the colts, for example. Maybe you make the trade. So that John Dorsey doesn't get a shot at him. If if you're Indianapolis, and maybe that's worth a sixth round, pick fifth round pick to you. And you know, people look at these draft picks, and you know, the Chiesa hit on some fifth found picks hit late in the draft. I mean Termonde Smith last year became your your, ticker Turner. I mean, I know it's not a murder, but that's your ticket Turner and think he did a pretty good job. So these are there still value there. And and again, the value of these other teams is to send a pic. So he. Doesn't end up. Elsewhere. Let's get to what really gets Pete emotional. When you hear everything that we heard yesterday from Andy Reid about Eric berry. The fact that he is not going to get surgery was which absolutely makes zero sense to me if he's going to be on the team next year, and how that's going to be any different than what they dealt with last year because he had a lot of time off and he still had problems with the pain. What are you here? And what is your first thoughts? When you hear the fact that Eric berry is just not going to have surgery. I find that in this situation, and as it started out really unpopular and as time has gone on. It's it's it's come around come back around to me. I just think that Eric berry is in more control of the situation. People think like if a player doesn't want to have surgery the team could recommend it the doctors recommend it. If at the end of the day he doesn't want to have the surgery because he's not feeling comfortable about his body. He doesn't have to do. So I think that's what happens in the situation. He wants to rested more, and what's horrible about that. And what his is completely silly about that we've already tried this thing before I mean, we tried to it before you rested for more than one hundred days for mid August to mid December. And that didn't work and to go against what had to have been ordered. If you have anything going on with this has formerly like there was a clear problem that probably surgery could fix the go and say, okay, I'm not going to get the surgery. I'm going to be good. We're gonna try the same thing that didn't work last year. I mean that to me is a little bit. Selfish. Like, I I don't I don't and people people get me on Twitter. Like, oh, you hate Eric berry. I don't hate Eric berry. I hate the past that he gets in Kansas City for some for another part of his career that has nothing to do with this part. And that's amazing, crowns, my years. You must hear different pass that he's giving because my my thing to that is though is I don't understand how you get to the fact that it's first off this is the second doctor guess, I got another opinion from a doctor who said he doesn't need surgery and. I just don't know why Eric wouldn't want to get surgery or why he would have an issue not getting it. I mean, it's not like he's afraid of going under the knife. He's had multiple surgeries before he's had surgeries with the with his knees with his his achilles. Like, it's not like he's never had surgery before. I don't I don't get the explanation that he doesn't wanna have surgery doesn't make sense to me. I think the problem though with just resting at right? You want to rest it until the next season starts, you talk to these guys. I mean, I haven't been a professional football player, but I've been around enough last five years. So, you know, you talk to these guys there's a difference between like running on a treadmill and working out in the gym. And then getting on the football field and training camp. And then all of a sudden, you know, you're taking an angle that you would never take doing anything, you know, prior to getting in football shape, and then all of a sudden you tweak that he'll again, and we're in the same situation. And and really the problem is the way the contract is structured. I mean, the chief can only really cut him if they want any benefit. After June one. And in that case, they're very would have to pass a physical a lot of people think that he would because he was able to play in the AFC title game. I wouldn't be able to pass a physical. But at the same time, it's just such a bad contract to half the cut, and what ended up happening here, and you know, people will blame John Dorsey so on and so forth for Houston and berry, but at the time of their contract like you had to sign them to long term deals. I mean, there was really no option very came back from cancer come back for the year looks fantastic. And they signed the most. And I think it's just an unfortunate set of circumstances that have all coming ahead at the same time. And and it's just a tough out for the chiefs. I you know, there's really I think in the situation. No right answer, and like Jimmy, and you going back and forth from here is it's a lot of he said, she said this type of thing. I I happen. I happen to believe, you know, in my own, right? That it's it's been Eric ever since he said that common after the ravens game where you know. He said, it's not a my spirit to play. He's in the driver's seat of the of the decision team, Nick. I mean if. He doesn't want to go under surgery on under surgery. And he says he doesn't feel like that's the right decision. He's going to do what he wants to do. And the problem is that she's under contract. So I mean, he can make those decisions and so make the money. I don't know if there's any, you know, written clause in a contract that says you have to do with the team says when it comes to surgery or you won't get aid. I don't think that exists. So like, I said it's a lot of he said she said on this matter, and again, just at the end of the day doing the same thing as last year makes zero sense to me whether it was a doctor's decision. Whether it was very he is Pete Sweeney. He is the editor in chief at Arrowhead pride. Arrowhead pride is not following Ron the show hugely on Twitter, which is still very puzzling. But that was very very friendly conversation. Pete. We really appreciate your time. Pete Sweeney follow him on Twitter. 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Full Show - OBJ trade, Eric Berry, LAbron, Ed Reed in-studio

First Things First

1:28:28 hr | 2 years ago

Full Show - OBJ trade, Eric Berry, LAbron, Ed Reed in-studio

"Gonna I think Spurs Tuesday morning here. New York City, I'm John wall. That's the hall of fame of Chris Carter. Yesterday, and everything. So they I'm I'm okay. Improve from yesterday today. What what got better general disposition? I thought he was very well what we get. My expectations for Nick, I dropped them. Mike, okay. A show with two lies this usually gentle wolves corners. Now today, I would expect me to analyze how guys are running routes precisely we can all strange corn on and look at the sides. Candle the L Jim good to see you. This was so show today. Lebron still talking about who will be joining him next season hall of fame enshrinee at read right there. We'll get him a chair, but we start with the New York Giants insistence of a plan this coming season. You know, the one that nobody can really see except general manager. Dave gettleman. All right. So the giants made big news after trading down to the Browns a week ago. They made head-scratching new sticking with their thirty eight year old quarterback and yesterday. They put it all together for the most interesting news of all the reasons why on a conference call with the media Gettleman addressed at all starting with Adele. After much discussion. We just believed. This was in the best interest of the football giants. I want everybody to know. This was purely a football business decision this. No intrigue. There's no he said she said, none of that stuff. So let's not waste time. With with those types of questions after the fact some have questioned why we signed Dell and then traded them. As I said publicly twice. We didn't sign them to trade him. But obviously things changed. And frankly, what changed is another team made an offer we couldn't refuse this narrative. That he lies all the paid. And can't play is a crock. I'm telling you. So at the end of the day, you guys gotta say get them out of his mind are knows what he's talking about. When he evaluates players. That's really what it is. That's really where it's at. And I'm okay. If you disagree with me, that's fine. But what I'm telling you is if you turn around, and you take a look at what he's making right now. And and look look around the league and see what quarterbacks of making all right? If you're in my shoes, you'd say, you know, what they're really is not the way he finished the season. And what he's making the really wasn't a decision to make really and truly Pat. You know, very, very, honestly, it's not my responsibility to tell you guys what I'm doing. That is not my just like, it's not my responsibility to respond to every rumor that comes down the pike. That's not my job. Okay. It's not my responsibility. Trust me. We got a plan and over time. You know, you've got to be patient. You know, everybody wants answers. Now, we live in instant gratification society, instant gratification world and everybody wants answers. Now overtime you'll see it. You gotta trust it. I think more so than wanting answers now is I think fans meaty want answers period. Are he Gettleman addressed a number of different things Odell ally the overall plan let's start with Adele, c c are you buying the giants kind the Odal trading business decision? They can always say that because what's good for business. And can they trust the player, and they felt basically for the new New York football giants and their brand to move forward. It was best for them from a football standpoint. Because that's the business there. So I put everything into that. When you say football decision football means their character to are. They going to be at practice are they reliable. Also are there? Good football player. Are they good in the locker room? So those are all good football decisions. There is no off the field in professional football. Once you start playing professor you're on the clock twenty four seven. So I can understand exactly what he's saying. But he's not telling the truth because he was telling the truth when Odell since he's been there, basically his tried to trade show he approached it lasts off season off season with his friend John Dorsey in with the with the Browns like they were talking about it. Now Dorsey was little consumed with trying to get Baker Mayfield are the right quarterback. But they had conversations you can read it, they talk. They talk about them talking about this deal in last year's combine not this year's combine. So I can't believe everything that he's saying. But he is right. It's not his job to tell us every move that he's doing but for a long long time. He's tried to trade Odal Beckham in del felt like he was going to get traded. He felt like he couldn't make New York on home. So that he makes a mistakes along the way. Yes, if I wanna revisit history. Yes, he did. But they've got him. I don't believe he's telling the truth here. Hundred percent when we get to the part. I think he's telling the truth on Eli either. But that might be above his pay grade, the allies stuff might be over his head above this is okay. It's fairly obvious last coach that was their benched ally. How long did he last with the giant a few weeks general manager can't do that? Because general manager was fired. All and so the point I'm making is if you and we'll get to the you lie stuff if you can't tell the truth on July, then it would behoove you greatly to tell the truth on ode L Beckham. And the idea that Odell getting rid of you got an offer you can't refuse got godfather offer. She got the seventeenth pick the Browns to third round picks. They gave you the worst of the two and a first round safety had given up on saying we looked at this two first round picks because once upon a time drill pecker peppers was first over. It was the first round pick one time Richardson was the third overall pick of a draft. He's in the af AFL now like that. That's silliness. This wasn't a own. My god. I can't believe the offer. We just got this wasn't someone coming the RG three in the trade in the draft offer three I two seconds of thirds. Like, we have no choice that's nonsense and the idea of New York Giants will be better on the field without Odell Beckham all evidence points to the opposite in games. He's played. They've won fifty percent. More than games. He hasn't been a better quarterback with him on the field. They've scored more points with him on the field. We know that they're better as a football team with Dell Beckham. And we know they got they didn't get what the Steelers got very Tonio Brown thirty cents on the dollar. But they certainly didn't get one hundred cents on the dollar for Odell Beckham Juhnke, we know that. And you have to seem that if the the ally situation was above gentleman's had maybe the Adele one was a well, maybe that was Amarah decision is while let's get to what did you make of what Gettleman said about ally. And how the fact that they don't think he's worth it as a thirty eight year old quarterback as a crock. The thing about we talks about the money part. And you say you look around NFL ally. Manning you're paying that number. Nick has that exact number twenty three million as the seventh highest capital amongst all quarterbacks twenty three point two million. So you can look at it cap or you can look at it real dollars. They don't look at it as if they're spending too much on the quarterback because of their overall respect for that would have to be what it is because he hadn't been a Probo level quarterback for at least five years probably longer than that. So I can understand when organization because this is not about how good is he right now. Kobe Bryant at the end of his career man, he demanded every single dollar from the Lakers. How much was he making in over thirty five million dollars? And he wasn't nearly the player, but he wasn't gonna take the discount either. It was for time served now him and Coby are not in the same stratosphere as far as athletes, but relationship to an organization, that's what's important here. It was a lifetime achievement award. This is the the Mara family. This is what they've decided to ally. They don't want any life plan for another team. They want him retire New York giant, and they feel like ally in all those others that responsible for those two championships that he's got much respect for them the family does. So that's all this is right now. And and I understand that part of it. But even there when he says when he says look at what other quarterbacks are making. I just sold you. It's the seven highest cap hit amongst quarterbacks now is seventeen million salary. But the so we can do cash versus cap all that I under. That part of that's the signing bonus. That's been pro rated when he says look it out you like played over the end of the year. What sampler we talking about the final three games where he had three touchdown passes and six turnovers that can't be what you're talking about. Or the final eight games of the season where he was better than the first eight games, but still bad like we know what he lie is the idea that he li- is old. And at this point a well below average quarterback is not a crock. It is the facts we have been leading to over the last five years ally. Manning the year before Dell got there had the lowest pass rating in football and the most interceptions in football. He they not a three year period that you could argue was the best three years of his career in large part because Oto Beckham junior was on the field with him and Dell was healthy in those three years since oh Dell's been out of the lineup all of two years ago and part of last season. Ally has been the quarterback he was trending towards five years ago, which is a well below average quarterback. Who has had to unbelievable playoff runs? And he Gettleman I do feel for him in this regard that I do things over said, I don't think the Beckham thing is because of the Beckham the if you can't pick the trade you can't pick the quarterback if you then what are you doing the then the owner is the GM? So I don't think the Beckham thing was above his pay grade. But the manning thing clearly is, but he's not even telling a consistent story on that. And I think these quotes just like we didn't sign Eli that we didn't sign Odell to trade him was thrown against him. I think these quotes are going to be run back when it says you guys say you lies old and overpaid. That's a crock. Okay. Well, we'll have sixteen games to find out. All right. So all that being said do you trust cattlemans plan you trust the giants plan moving forward? See a lot of faith in giants because I've seen him operate and they've operated with a great deal of patients, but I'm just going to. I'm a little. Timid is far as what their future is. Because they don't have a future with ally. Now, they might love their past men NFL to pass is the past. It's about what are you going to do in the next three years? They don't have a quarterback. I believe in Barclay as a running back. They got to beef up their offense lying. I believe he's going to be a superstar. But the way this team I need to see more positive things. Now, do I think he can run a team and picked out evaluate that. Yes. Absolutely. No disrespect to that. But as far as the giants ownership and him coming together on a plan going forward when you give up on owed L Beckham because every draft pick every other player, you're taking the chance hoping if he becomes a player one day. So I wouldn't say I have as much faith in giants. I've had over the years because they have proven with their patients they're worthy of that trust. But right now, they are at a fork in the road in Dave Gettleman is driving the car is he gonna make the right turn. That's what I can say the Mara family. I still have faith in them. What they do. Jayme. What they believe in as people. And when we say do we trust the giants plan? I would like to know what the is. Because if some job, right, if someone comes to you in your personal training, capacity. Jenna and says I wanna cut weight Niles wanna add a lot of bulk. It's like wait you pick one of the two we want to rebuild and we wanna contend. Okay. Well, if you wanna do everything you wanna do nothing. And so that there are teams in the league that we know specifically we think we're taking a step back this year to take a step forward. We think we're in win right now mode. We're trying to take the next step to make the playoffs. The giants trying to have have it both ways, we're rebuilding. And we want to contend anyone hold onto the past. And we wanna look to the future. That is not a plan except they get them in would not use the word rebuilt. He said, we're not rebuilding. We're actually building here that word. Correct. All right. We got take a break. We'll talk a lot more about this. Chris canes going to be here coming up in a little bit. But on the other side of the Dallas Cowboys at a three time all pro that's next on fest one you can always Chuck. Us out on the funk sports channel on Sirius. XM? We'll get the Cowboys Eric Benny very just a second. But first nuggets and Celtics, Kyrie Irving mismatched with Mason, Plumlee, and he nails the jumper. Got gotta stop. Let me some Plumlee get put out on an island out by three point is the second time and three days we've seen somebody do this to him. That's what the NBA games about men. Pick and roll get the mismatch warriors Spurs and owes Steph curry from sixty feet out the buzzer beater to end the first quarter. Stephan should've shot more shots from beyond half court. It was an odd night where they were both off claim particular. But this tied the game up the end of one and credit to Steph or not caring about the field goal percentage. A lot of guys in the NBA the last few years, they wait until right after the horn to throw this up. So it doesn't hurt their percentage. How far it is? Nick four hundred four feet, so three seventy one feet. Try sixty one long shot made this season. Oh, you knew the answers. You said. Sixty. But it shows how much you. He thunder and drug h finds a cutting Derek Jones junior for the two handed flush do broke his left arm. When when I was watching the other side, I was like what the heck happened. You thought it like dislocated I was like stretch Armstrong go go gadget did the steel in time and get your wife in the show. Stan yells line moving onto the Dallas Cowboys after a very quiet star to free agency appears Dow's maybe getting back into the game here. Eric berry will reportedly visit Dallas this weekend. He needs a job. Cowboys need a safety berry spent most of last season on the chiefs bench, recovering from an achilles tear. But he made the all protein three eight seasons in Casey before that see how much would this signing health douse Cowboys. If you told me, we're berry is and I'm not a fair person. I think I think sometimes you need to let the public a little something. Like, I've known Eric berry since he decided Lee Tennissee had the training. Company that trained with Eric most of the trainers. I've been knowing them since they came out of college gave them the first opportunity. So his training staff was where people that I know. So I got chance to know Eric berry chance to train with them right next to him for a number of years. But the most impactful thing about Eric Bury's when I saw him recovering from cancer. And he was out there training trying to make a comeback into the league still you could see the of the chemotherapy a wool skull hat. It was ninety five degrees in south Florida because he didn't want people to feel bad for him because he had lost all of his hair. And just seeing what he was doing. There were certain points during the workout that he would just cry and it wasn't out of sadness. It was about man the opportunity to build a play the game. So my commentary Eric berry, it it might not be the most professional because I've seen I've touched them. I know how much he wants to play. I know what kind of great guy is to have in the locker room. And I know I saw all those three all pro season. He was phenomenal. He can run. He's runs like a four three eight at his best shape. He works out. He loves the game. He's a great leader. He's like a silent assassin you didn't say a whole bunch. But but he's got people's attention because he doesn't mince his words in everything. So Eric berry his an asset to any organization. He would be the best safety. They've had in Dallas in a few years because they need another playmaker. And I just believe if he's able to get in a situation. There's more talent around him in Dallas that Efi's able to get healthy. And I don't know Richard Sherman came back from an achilles had a good season in San Francisco. Eric berry in the process of coming back and maybe rushing to comeback develop some burned bone Spurs around the injury. So it's been very very difficult in this last return. But if there is one guy you say, I'm gonna take all seventeen hundred players in the NFL, and you're going to Bank on one guy making some. Miraculous type comeback him. It's this guy. This is not the show for unbiased Eric berry commentary. I didn't know him since he was seventeen, but I know him since he was twenty one I know his family. I was with him in Kansas City. I've spent time with his parents, this guy is one of the best people leaving Chris mentioned silent assassin, but a motion leader of that chiefs defense when he was there and even when he was injured the last full season he played in two thousand sixteen he was the best safety in the NFL with respect to roll Thomas. It was the best year of his career was his third all pro year. He had already recovered from an ACL for his second year in the league. And Kanter see mentioned and in the first game of twenty seventeen on one of the biggest plays of the game. A game changing play against the New England Patriots on a fourth down. If I remember he popped his achilles. And that was the last time we saw the real Eric berry if he's healthy he would be the best safe during the Cowboys roster. If he can stay on the field. He is what he is shown every year of health is a bad season. Berg. Berry is the Pro Bowl how. Well, it's it's as big of an F as there is for any player in the league right now he's played in two and a half really a half a game a half a game and one full game over the last two years. That's the reality of it. And so I if anyone can come back from an achilles to guy who came back from cancer to become the best safety in the entire NFL, and he will work at it. He already is the highest paid safety in NFL history. He got multiple big contracts is I contract with only old rookie wage scale. He got super paid. And then he got a franchise tag. And then got on monster new deal and the first game onto the daily popped his achilles. But last year it was the he'll with the bone Spurs. They couldn't get him on the field. The chiefs thought chief's fan thought. Oh, they're being real cost us. They're waiting for the stretch run. No, he couldn't get out there. And so he's going to have to go prove it somewhere. But I am I am rooting for him. I this is a guy that he's one of my favorite people in the NFL. And we know how good he is. He's health. Let's see let me ask you from the Cowboys persective because of what Nick laid out his history with injuries. Does it behoove them then to sign him to an inexpensive short term contract went that fit into their plans because you know, how much they do have to sign. They do need a playmaker at safety. But they do have a they have a number of needs as far as players in house. Don't have a lot of cap space. They needed Jason Witten. They just threw him a few million dollars like like they weren't going to need that money. They need to Jason Witten last season when they're titans weren't developed in Amari Cooper was hadn't been come to the Cowboys. That's when they tried to get him back. So for me, I believe that money will not be well spent, but yes, that's where Barry is in his career. He's gonna have to have some type of faith in the organization. Yes to sign a deal with a small base salary very few guarantees and have the incentives where if he plays to a Pro Bowl level he'll be compensated. Like one the Kansas City Chiefs while they wouldn't say this publicly because of how great of a member of that organization he'd been for nearly a decade. They clearly don't think he's has any football left in them. And I say that because capitalized to keep him with sixteen million to get rid of him was fifteen million. They only saved one million dollars by releasing. And so they clearly think that that achilles injury and the bone Spurs that followed the he'll issue was essentially a career in. I hope they're wrong. I hope I if you're going to take a flyer on a guy, I certainly rather spend a couple million on him than witness you mentioned, but I think any team in the league just from a locker room leader perspective is better with Eric berry there, especially how cheaply is gonna come. All right. Let's take a break and talk some basketball on the other side who should the Lakers pair with LeBron this summer. That's next on first things. First. Division champ Lamont. Peterson takes on Sergei opinions on Sunday that six eastern only on this one. And the Fox Sports at time for us to go viral. With addition of Odell Beckham junior Baker Mayfield this poised to have a breakout sophomore season for the Browns. But a football doesn't work out for the twenty three year old quarterback. Baker can always turn to baseball showcasing a decent. Swing at brewers. Batting practice. Baker. So Christian yelich the NFL MVP last year. He and Baker very good friends. Christian yelich, warmer, Miami, Marlin now, Milwaukee Instagram datum all throughout the run last year that route inform the whole time Jinnah is our Instagram up to be something. You're a lot of things. Don't discount yourself your invaluable to the show very much, but the Instagram nasal much. So much shade days for my partner. Chris Carter stories start your morning. This seems like a good time to start with stories Sterkcx new whiskey became the six leading score an MBA history last night, passing Wilt Chamberlain account press of his career been somehow he's become historically. Underrated. His top twenty all time guy NBA regular season and finals MVP now the six leading scorer ever the second greatest foreign born player in the greatest European player of all time. What an absolutely remarkable run, and is the type of career see where you're happy. It'll happen in one place that he was that he was acquired by Dallas on draft night and stayed there. His entire career and changed again Nunnelee exceptional player. But how the game is played since dirt came into the game. As far as being a stretch for stretch five putting the big guy behind the three point art, how it opened up the court. We know players are bigger stronger and faster, but because of dirt his impact on the game. It's created more. Face. That's why guys still scored a basketball tremendous career moving onto the warriors. Now, they lost to the Spurs last night mainly due to a tough shooting night for both Steph and clay warriors now tied with Denver for the one seat in the west Nick how big of a deal is this. I only two huge. I think they will still get the one seat. I'll tell you this much. It matters a lot for those teams jockeying for the three seed will g really want the threes of the words and of falling to the two liner. Would you prefer being the four line? The Western Conference playoffs are all messed five through eight is all close three through five. It's confusing up top. This was a night about the Spurs. Playing extraordinary defense. They rough structure in the rodeo road trip. See since then they have been on fire skyrocketing up the stand couldn't make a shot. But I believe that number one seed, it's important. It's what you want to just in case you get to that game number seven. And I don't think the teams at the bottom. It's so bundled up. They can't concentrate on. The warriors are the nuggets. But that number one seed liked to be number one seed and the chance to build a three peat I on the Boston Celtics continuing their up and down season losing to the nuggets last night, despite thirty points and four steals from Kyrie Irving Boston. Now, the fifth seed in the east one game back of the Pacers. See what do you make the Celtics with eleven games left in the regular season? I wouldn't want to overreact to this. Because Denver's better basketball team, they play more basketball consistently than the Celtics. And then the back into that this what the Celtics do up and down up and down the really really talented. But the cohesiveness never got back what they had last year in the play and one of the reasons last year that offense was better than a lot of expected is they were generating a ton of corner threes, and they were knocking them down. I couldn't believe this number. I heard this morning dead last in the NBA corner. Three percents that's supposed to be the most efficient shot in basketball than a layup. Celtics can't hit them. And while the nuggets have. Been better this game on the Celtics home court the Celtics need where they're four point favorites and the nuggets were in control throughout despite kyri being excellent tough game for Jason Tatum. Gordon Hayward didn't play with the concussion tough loss for Boston that stifles some of their momentum. I finally perhaps no one will be under a bigger spotlight than I hear Browns head coach. Freddie kitchens GM John Dorsey kitchens will quote, hold players accountable. All I Chris Carter kitchens. The biggest question Mark for the Cleveland Browns said into the season. I think there's just a number of questions when you have a young coach, I think that the ownership John Dorsey Alonzo Highsmith guys that picked the players they got the right guy. I mean, you have to look at the people that they turn down. I mean, they could've easily they thought because Dorsey was from Green Bay. They thought for sure night McCarthy. Mike mccarthy. He's going imagine. Mike McCarthy coaching this team approach into season. We have this questions about the. No what about Bruce saying what if he comes out of retirement, which he did the coach Tampa Bay. What if he was coaching? We have those questions. No sure guys would love to be getting ready to coach this team absolutely sold. The thing about if we're being honest with should have some questions at frady now for me. I don't have as many questions other people because I sat down and met with them cover them in week number fourteen of last season but parent for the Carolina game, and I talked to the players and the players respect them in John Dorsey and looking for coach he wanted a voice that these young up and coming players could here, he didn't want an old voice. He didn't want someone who'd been in the NFL who he thought maybe there was a disconnect between their overall youth. And and what they're looking at compared to a young, and he had a lot of confidence in Freddie because put under the tremendous strain. He was under last year taking over for q. Todd Haley out the door. It was like a coup in the building. But Freddie king. Sins one, but he won over that locker room by the things he said, I was very comfortable with his press conferences as a first time coordinator, I know in talking to Baker Mayfield Baker thinks that he is the guy this going to make him the type of player. So yes, I'm I'm confident in Freddie kitchen, but there will be bumps along the road. Even if he had ten years experience, they're going to be bumps with this football team, we should expect. And it is he's a total unknown in this job. And there's gonna be questioned about anyone in that role. People. I think have misremembered the very recent history that okay? So those guys got fired and Freddie kitchens was the interim head coach, and they know he elevated to offense coordinator and associate head coach we've seen in the past where a guy is someone gets fired midseason the interim head coach Dan Campbell in Miami. They go on a bit of a run. It's like should we keep him as the head coach? But at least you saw a few games of him doing the weekly press conference holding the team meetings for that was Greg Williams. Joe? So even the Browns don't know what type of head coach he'll be now. The biggest reason I think he got the job was because of what we saw from Baker once that Hugh Todd route of the building that Greg Williams took over and he took over the offense. I think it's a little more than just Baker because their offense of line improved drastically their philosophy. How they were who think the Browns Baker not Brown? Start at running the ball. They became more physical and he handled all the personality in all the key. That was coming with being bumped up from a man, you're just a quarterback coach well and the offense as a whole no question about it. That's why. Yeah. And Baker gave him the seal of approval and Baker clearly wanted him as his head coach the question for the Browns. And the thing that's in the back of Browns fans mind as a concern is was the reason the offense got so much better. The addition or the subtraction. Meaning was at that. Freddie kitchens helped elevate everything or. Was it that human Todd was such a toxic situation that just getting them out of the building allowed the offense and Baker and the team is a whole reach what it should have been earlier in the season you have to greatly. Hope it's the former that it was that. Freddie kitchens was a was a quality ad as opposed to you just got rid of the toxicity, but no-one should prejudge him. No, one should say he's going to be a failure. That would be ridiculous. But it also be ridiculous to say. I know he's the right guy to be the head coach nobody ever had because you have so much town on that team. Wouldn't even matter. John Dorsey knows he had a chance to get the pick of the litter. But either job was open all gear. So he wears the no way you give that roster to a guy unless you have confidence. We might not have confidence in them. But John Dorsey has one hundred percent confident than this is the next great young coach in NFL. I'm certain Dorsey has confidence in what you said. No, one said, nobody knows known though, I think you can have confidence in guy. But I don't think when you're whenever you're making a higher. I think. Hugo with your best bet the one, you're gut whatever it is the one most confident in, but you we would be lying, but it's not just a gut feeling. He was basically the head coach for half the roster for half the season. Right. And so it's not a gut feeling. He has some evidence to support it yet. He doesn't. But he doesn't know even when he makes that choice if he would have hired Mike McCarthy, your point he would have you would know the type of team system, the organizational structure, Mike McCarthy's going to bring he went with a guy who he thinks has bigger upside a guy who he thinks a better fit for this team, despite the unknown now that might be a testament to what Freddie kitchens has shown in the Bill in the building. But eighties. He is an unknown even to the guy who hired him in this job and all of us, and we'll see over the next few years. What type of head coach? He it's all right. Let's get back to basketball now with this season. All but over for LeBron Lakers all eyes turn to summer plans and not the fun kind. These plans involve the Lakers trying desperately. Depair James with one of the game's top free agents, and they are certainly options out there kyri, Katie Kemba, Hawaii to name a few. Lebron was asked about this upcoming summer and had this to say. There's a lot of great free agents in the summer nocco name any names because every time I say something organization says something about a specific person we get in trouble. So, but we have an opportunity to to get better. And that's very something next. No says definitely great to know that when you have an opportunity to get better from personnel Sampoerna. See if you're one of the free agent names that I mentioned what's the appeal? What's the draw to come now to the Lakers and sign with this team? Judging by what you saw the happen this season whole lifetime. The Lakers have been a force in the NBA. They only had a few seasons where they were down. But you always knew with Dr bus who owned the Lakers and now his daughter. Ginny runs their their basketball operate. I mean runs everything for them. Pelinka runs basketball pricing him and magic, but their family has been about winning championship. She fired her brother two years ago because they were so bad. It's about winning. It always has been when we'll went there. That's what it was about. When Kareen Wynter. That's what it was about. Most of these players. They went out and either traded for them or they just outbid everyone else. So I've just seen it shack. I've just seen. I have seen it year after decade after decade. This is what the Lakers do. That's what you should be attracted to. They are trying to win champi. Manship they have tremendous resources and the location in Los Angeles. They play in a beautiful Rena in a beautiful part of town. Like there are a lot of positive things about playing with the Lakers. But ultimately, if you can get paid and during your tenure, you can compete for a championship. What else is there in the league? Like, that's what that's what playing professional sports is about in the Los Angeles Lakers. Not because they're recent history. I know a lot of people watch the show our young people, but as long I'm fifty three every since I've been on earth, the Los Angeles Lakers each decade has presented championship opportunities. That's why I'm a free agent. I'm looking at the lake and each decade through free agency or trade is found a way if not once multiple times to acquire any Norma star LeBron decade before Pao people forget the Pao was arguably the best center in the league when he came over to join up with Kobe decade before shack then before that. Cream before that, it was will like they've always been able to go get superstars and impair them with the right people around them. They the question for the Lakers is which tier of free agents. Are we talking about? We don't the top tier? Kevin Durant coli Leonard, Kyrie Irving. Those are the three top tier guys. I'd say Katie is almost an impossibility Kawai the door could be opening slightly ajar with the Doc Rivers supposed interest in the Lakers that would be a big paradigm shift from the clippers to the Lakers and kyri. We knows an expert her tier two I think would be quite good wouldn't be tier one. That's clay Kimball. Walker Jimmy Butler, but if you miss out on those top two tiers and assuming you can win with the top tiers can contend in win. I think LeBron plus any of them sex guys, particularly the guys on the top tier would be instinct contenders. We have to see what happens with the warriors. This is a Suming Kevin Durant. Elsewhere and that super super teams no longer there. But if you out on those top tier? Ears along with not trading for Anthony Davis. And then you're talking about tier three boogie Tobias Harris tier four, Nicole vucevic. Chris Middleton now urine trouble spot. Now, you're talking about your seventeen LeBron guy you're teaming with wiz. And even actual all-star. Just a, you know, a top thirty five player in the league that where the Lakers would to me that would be striking out this summer. That would be the way. I do the players rankings is finds it funny. But I don't think I the Lakers should be concerned. But they shouldn't be worried. They have the city they have the team they have LeBron. And even if some members of the media one present this narrative that people don't like to play with LeBron. I I'd like to see one player that played with him come out and say that because all we hear from guys whether troll players Allstars are superstars is what are you getting those players exist. But if there was a player, why would he do that? Why would he why would he? He why would he insert himself into the LeBron conversation? And just just just, you know, I'm going to say I wasn't pleased with playing LeBron like this, Alexa, fair point that maybe that that you have maybe reason to stay reserved on it or to stay out of the discussion. But the point I'm making is we can't we have. We haven't heard anybody anybody say that. We haven't heard anybody we've heard count we guys didn't play with the Brown. We are Paul Pierce all the time. We have guys that that have never been on that team say the during say to talks environment. But the guys who have spoken up who have played with LeBron have said positive things. Now, maybe there's other guys that are. But I redid asked outta town though. Right. And then absolutely Kyriakos outta town. And now that was saying something right there, and then double back to LeBron and said, it was a mistake. Yeah. But I'm just saying let's not let's not forget that one. I if anyone got when you tell when you go to Cleveland management and say I want to be traded. You say I don't wanna play LeBron. Right. He. Wanted to go have his own team. And then he realized what it was also I didn't wanna play with LeBron. He it hit under won't moan team. But one hundred percent, and when you say you don't want people forget that. I don't I don't think people are forgetting that Kyrie Irving left the Cavs by demanding a trade like I think that's baked into it. I think put the point I'm making is is that we have heard from. I would say every prominent Ray Allen, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kevin love down to guys whether who bottom of the roster guys, Richard Jeff. Concerned jenna? But I'm concerned if the pelicans don't trade AD there unconcerned because we know katie's not coming. We know clay's not comment. And what if they would've Kyrie decided I still like you can't depend on kyri? So unconcerned for the Lakers. All right. Let's take a break coming up. How are the giants justifying trading owed Elba? That's next on first things. Slippy here we talked about Pro Bowl linebacker Bart Scott joins what up? Right there Bank. Yes. He said. It's been a whole lot of live. Go ahead and bang true. Tone a day near giants made big news barred after trading Dell to the Browns week ago. They made some head-scratching news then designed to stick with their thirty eight year old quarterback yesterday. They put it all together for the most interesting news of all we learn the reasons why on a conference call with the media gentleman. Dave Gettleman addressed at all starting with Odell. After much discussion. We just believe this was in the best interest of the New York football giants. I want everybody to know. This was purely a football business decision this. No intrigue. There's no he said she said, none of that stuff. So let's not waste time. With with those types of questions after the fact some have questioned why we signed Dell and then trade to them. As I said publicly twice. We didn't sign him to trade him. But obviously things changed in. Frankly, what changed is and other teammate offer. We couldn't refuse this narrative. That he lies all the paid. Can't play is a crock. I'm telling you. So at the end of the day, you guys gotta say get them out of his mind are knows what he's talking about. When he evaluates players. That's really what it is. That's really where it's at. And I'm okay. If you disagree with me, that's fine. But what I'm telling you is if you turn around, and you take a look at what he's making right now. And and look look around the league and see what quarterbacks of making all right? If you're in my shoes, you'd say, you know, what they're really is not the way he finished the season. And what he's making the really wasn't a decision to make really and truly Pat. You know, very, very, honestly, it's not my responsibility to tell you guys what I'm doing. That is not my just like, it's not my responsibility to respond to every rumor that comes down the pike. That's not my job. Okay. It's not my responsibility. Trust me. We got a plan and over time. You know, you've got to be patient. You know, everybody wants answers. Now, we live in instant gratification society, instant gratification world and everybody wants answers. Now overtime. You'll see it. You gotta trust it. I thought I'll start with you. Is there any reason to trust the giants plan moving forward based on everything he's explained all the moves? This team has made so far all his plans are contradictory of each other. He's contradicting itself over and over again because he says, you know, he's trying to rebuild. So he's getting rid of Landon college getting rid of Libya Verney, but then he sighs golden Tate. You know, you talk about a guy you guaranteed ill twenty three million dollars over four years, and how can you rebuild? What you basically have the same. Layer sterling Shepard gold and tell you up the same real estate while when you give that money to the younger player because when you get your new quarterback and you're ready to win. You have a young player that you trust that's been in your organization is gonna help you win. I think really what this is a mission of that. He missed he didn't evaluate his team properly rice. Oh, he thought last year. That's go all in. That's why you make a move like that saquon sake. One is a Finnish peace and saquon keenness because even he's a transcendent player. Probably get a go, Jack. He's well on his way to being the superstar. They're gonna wait talent must like Barry Sanders because he's going to be a great player without a team around him. Because instead of moving on from the quarterback, you already said, okay. You got him. He played well, but then he started moving away from him you double down. Right. And you bring back a thirty eight year old quarterback you talking about he's not overpaid. Whether it makes more money than Cam Newton. He makes more money than Philip rivers. And I'll take those guys before I take manning any day, and you wanna talk about. Okay. Well, they got rid of oatmeal Beckham. If you add golden Tate, and you add real prepar cap numbers over the next two years twenty one million dollars. Well, Odell Beckham is like twenty four million dollars. So I'd rather have that one great player then old player and a safety that we don't know what he is. Because in college he played he played linebacker. So the same problem issues you have with Landon Collins out of same issues, you're going to have which real preps. He's underperformed. So what are you talking about see that we had this thing with Ray organized chaos? And we say we didn't know what we were doing. They didn't know what they're doing. And that was the beauty of he doesn't know what he's doing. He's gonna have to figure it out. And he's making it up on a fly. Listen your point that they miss evaluated last year is obviously true. No one the most ardent giants fan can't dispute that that last year they signed Nate solar. They sign. Oh, mommy a guard that gets forgotten about three years fifteen million cut midway through the season draft a running back ever resign. Odell everything did last year was about winning right now in the team started one in seven and at the trade deadline. They're selling pieces off so that was a missile valuation. But the other point you make that original sin is ally. Manning on this is clearly true. What was the biggest cause of Odell frustration the quarterback? What was the biggest cause of Dell's distraction last year the interview what question in the interview to you have a problem at quarterback? What is the reason the giant? It's so hard to believe they are a team that is trying to rebuild. They have thirty eight year old quarterback. And this idea for Dave Gettleman that ally. Well, listen, he's look at the last half. Let's have a look at the all of last year. Pro football focus says in a clean pocket. Twenty eighth ranked passer under pressure thirty fourth accurate pass percentage thirty second turnover worthy played percentage twenty eight. Like there is you can't find a category that he's not in the bottom fifth of the league. There's only thirty five qualifying quarterbacks. Now that decision is almost assuredly over Dave Gotteland, Ted. That's an ownership decision about what? We're doing with a legacy player. Arguably the greatest offensive player in the history of the franchise. I get that part of it. But the every the moves he does have control over trading. Odell the trading away VA Vernon who they signed in the off season drafting a running back instead of trading back or drafting quarterback those are the GM's decisions. And they have they haven't been telling a consistent story. Well, it's hard for me to have faith in the plan. Because of what I hear I'm giving free piece of advice. Stop having press conferences. All right. You don't see New England. Bella check. I'm press conference talking about personnel. Like that because you're only going to make mistakes because he said, yeah, it's not his job. It's really not. It's not his job to be able to give out whatever the trade secrets are. And what I'm going to do in the future. But if you decide to participate in a press conference, it is your job to say something, and I do believe that you can evaluate town. I know you don't know how to do a press conference because you can't continue to actually proceed in good faith and try to let the public know. Okay. This is what I'm doing. It's not going to work for you. The Odell Beckham thing went bad with the interview and Odal Beckham is partially responsible for for him getting trade with you next roof, though, what it don't you can't tell the truth when you are franchise. You're not getting paid to tell the truth. He lies not pay to tell the truth and people make mistakes, alternate years. He many always said all that's all covered up for him. All that's on me. Oh, that's my fault. All I got to play better. I gotta get better. When they asked him. Do you like the quarterback do you like Bart Scott as a guest? Yes. I like Bart man barshop. Okay. People all the time. He had a simple is the quarterback situation. It's good and move on. That's what you're supposed to do. They're paying you to do that as a leader. But he's been trying to train them in every since he's. Got there. He talked John Dorsey last year at the combine about trading, Dale. He would've trade Dell to San Francisco if they would give him the number two pick so trying to act as if old things change old. They made him offer. No, he had a tag on. Dell's head and Odell was not going to be part of them moving forward. So I believe in the marr family believe in them. I really do. They've had too many years of being good people and good owners. But I don't believe in the current direction that the giants are going. I think I think the Martha marathon family has been they haven't been playing. Well, they haven't been they haven't been good owners because they punt it, and I think the mandate that you had to keep alive. If you're going to be the general manager. That's why I believe Louis Riddick wasn't there. Now, get them is the older type of guy he believes in Kansas City model, but it's no Mahomes out there. Now, he's telling us that he may be in running for quarterback when he just told us last year that those quarterbacks weren't good. And then these quarterback is probably be better. When when they're not your ranked the same, and he's a guy that can't see. See you'll data column early could be a transcendent type of player because he's always he's personally he's never even draft quarterback ever in his career. Right. So he's always inherited a good quarterback. So we don't know what he's capable of doing. We know he's good in drafting people. We he's not great talent evaluator as far as bringing in free agents. How much more do we believe in the plan? If they do go out and get a quarterback how much of this is based on the fact that they're going into this year with thirty eight euro quarterback who didn't really prove that he could still be the jump me. Like like, I said that the original sin drafting Dwayne Haskins can be can wipe that away to a large degree. I like Haskins more than I like darnold. I like Haskins more than Baker. Now, I was a huge fan of Josh Rosen. Obviously didn't have a great rookie season. We'll see what he is moving forward. So drafting Haskins or buying very low on Rosen if you can get Rosendo New York for your second round pick like to me. Okay. Now, you're starting to see the plan. Now, you are working under the constraints that you have that. The most fair criticism of Dave Gettleman everyone's got constraints that their job from their boss that they're not supposed to talk about right that we just gotta deal with it. How well do you work given those constraints or those constraints the reason for failure? If the constraint is he li- must be respected. You can't even ask him take a pay cut. He asked me the starter until he says he's done. Okay. Man. Those are those are tough handcuffs. But how well can you work given those handcuffs if you can't then what's the point having GM? Your job is to do the best given your circumstances. So long way to answer a question. They get Haskins to me that fixes a lot of it. They trade for Josh Rosen. It potentially fixes a lot of it. I don't know that given the his commentary this year see that they are seemed like a team that wants to package picks to move up. And I don't think Haskins going be there. Number six. Stick around coming up could the Dallas Cowboys at a time. All pro that's next on first innings. Never gets all that was read finding out. He was going into the hall of fame. At is joining us now. Congratulations and welcome. Thanks. We're getting up. The reaction now come on. Now, I've seen you man. I haven't seen any of the hall of famers as cool is. Hey, dave. I've been waiting on. Everyone is crying blacked out on. What what's going through your veins to do that family, man? You know, I did expect it, you know, great fans across the country. You know, players team e coaches may your hall of Famer you'll be there. They just wait. And they just holding down for you in getting in the year before did that help you out with that whole experience. Yeah, he definitely talked to me and let me know some things that will going to happen. And I saw a right after he went into the hall and he's explaining stuff right there. You know? So and the on been helping me Derrick Brooks, you know, and Brandon moss talk to us that next morning. Who's got the knock, you know? So it's been it's been good, man. A lot of lot of lot of bras been helping out. You've always been a sharp dresser. As you see in that video. When you when you mentioned Ray, Ray was ready. I don't know if he's ready to preach. I don't know if he's ready for a wedding Ray was as sharp as did Ray give you any pointers on. Listen man that video is going to be around. And forever. You're going to show it on things like this. Make sure you have picked out exactly how you for that. Now, we haven't gotten that for. But I'm still speed is not going to help you. Okay. Because he's still talking. He's on the podium, right? The mood. He didn't help with rating out. You know, my dad, my dad's the guy, you know, the shop so just my family, you know, so I get it from him. Included in your class that you were that you're going to be sworn in with amused. Who's you know, we got four DVD's to safeties villainous unusual and Kevin Kevin. And Tony, you know, is crazy, you know, to go in with those guys I played against them. You know, great competitors. I'm still still having trouble with Tony. You know at this is, but yeah, it's it's just such a great time going in with everybody. How long after you retired? Did you start looking at? Okay. So it's five years. Here's who retired with me. And I mean, you is we knew it you chant in Tony were as close to locked first. Ballot guys could be when did this start coming on your mind? Like, oh, this is all be going in. And here's who the guys will you didn't need to be with tie, and Milwaukee, obviously two guys when did you start kind of realizing wait this is who I'm going to be inducted with. Not into they really announced it that. I had a clue that who I will go in with yet when they had the finalist list, I think in like October, they come out with them four that I didn't think about it at all. I was trying to see guess every ex player kinda counts the plays that he has left him. We're still thinking if you could come back, then I still have it any man just watching this stuff. But you know, it's just I think it's just part of it. You know, I think that's just far too. I think I think ex player you just count those plays. Dallas Cowboys looking for safety bringing people out of retirement winning three and a half million, man. You can get a million half from them. Yeah. Hall of Famer patrolling the secondary easy making those place. Listen. Listen to me, really my lips. It'd be a right. Let's talk about someone who can play you retirement. You'll you'll see mitt is Dr they put you into a placeman only way can ruin your bus of Jesus comes himself. And you think about playing we will talk about some real player because what the show's about. What about what about wink Martindale system there? I know you think you could play in that system. But what about Earl going to Baltimore bring in that same spirit you love his game. You love it overall sports character, and what they're doing in Baltimore still on the defensive side is still very special. Yeah. I mean early the player that I know is force communicating getting guys lined up. That's the key right? There wants to happens. They just play the way he's been playing fast. I think he'd be fine in that system. I'm not sure if they're going to play 'em stronger free always say play boat. You know, he knows that you know, Earls been kind of locked at at that free safety position. So he'd be the quarterback there. You know, they just got rid of. Malign C J J C J N. And what? So somebody's got to be that leader back there to pick them up. You know? So it's gonna be interesting to see you know, how that works out surprise with how much money's being thrown around some of these safeties. At all. I mean, I watched football and Chris's plan. Those guys made a certain amount of money. You know, I just came back from the hall of fame. We you see the first actual contract. You know, you see how much that guy. May I got that? Check is inflation. You know, is part of it is part entity -ment, you know, as a player when you in the NFL locker room, you know, that it's coming, you know, guys going to make more money behind you. You know, so not at all, you know, we pavers. We pay Christmas paver for me. You know, I was paying for these young guys, you know, so they just got out of hand. I know you throw that money around. But if they don't know how to manage it and handle it, you know, how to write people around him get taken away. Like you see some of these guys making bad season. You said some really interesting you're talking about Earl Thomas, and it probably had plies to Eric berry. If he signs on somewhere Tyra, Matthew Landon Collins about the communication aspect of that position. We often hear middle linebackers the quarterback of the defense. You were talking about the responsibility. If you're a great safety, whether strong or free, or as you were both of being the communicator getting guys lined up letting guys know what's coming before it even happens. Can you expand on that? 'cause I find it seems to me that was you people. Remember you for tracking the ball from cross the field. But so much of what you did was knowing what was coming before the play disguise getting -sition and tricking the opposing quarterback. Yeah. I mean, we. To people on the field to safety position of only two that can really see all the twenty one guys on a, you know, not not all positions. Get that view that we get you know, you've had times I've had times when I'm running up telling Terrell. Suggs, something you know, was about the play. A lotta Ray communicate when do guys because I could see it, you know. And I think you know, from my position you analyze quicker to by seeing the whole formation that matters. You know, always tell coins to look across the field. So they can see the whole formation before. I have to make the check, you know. So it's just getting guys on the same page giving them little keys that you could see because you're able to see the whole field. There are some great Ed read stories from opposing coaches and quarterbacks about things you would do within a game, especially when you're playing the more astute teams like that you would play a certain play out of position. Or in a certain spot to set them up for something later that was I'm not mistaking that the so rather than me talk about Ed read stories. Can you explain when you're going up against Peyton Manning Tom Brady, one of those guys something you would do early in a game to set yourself up for later in the game? One of my favorites is we used to lineup week in the cavity of the defense. Looking like you guys willing to stop the run? And right before the snap the ball, you start undisciplined. Okay. And then you start running to the side, and you intercept the scene route. Are you end up helping the other guy on the strong side? I'm like how did he get there? Like those are instincts to that. Most people don't have. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I played a lot of football coastal football. And for that. I mean this like I say goes back to knowing the formation knowing the play knowing the defense, I would never jeopardize my job for disguise. I always told guys that smart receivers like Chris can easily tell. Coverage you in by when you line up as soon as you come out there talking to the quarterback it's cover to cover one. It's only so many coverages that we can give you know. So with that in mind, I'm giving them. This guy's online up on that weakside making it look like, I'm Blissett. But at the end of the day, I know exactly well supposed to be you gotta think you gotta analyze the down and distance the formation the personnel group. The time of on the clock. Will you add on football field? Just like that. You know? So at the end of the day, I know what I have to do. So I can run from the line all the way back to the half. Because I know that's my job, you know. And then with doing with doing that you see the formation throws them off. You know, what they gotta go at the ball to. And also, I know of my hope is that as my defense, you know, so it's a lot of facts because I get guys all the time. I wanna watch film wannabe. How you meant. Teach that that's tough that's tough to teach revenue Kate teach repetition. I know you mentioned that you were coaching your son this past weekend flag football, Mike. I was going to ask you how much football you're still watching. I mean, can you believe that we've set sitting around here? The last couple of weeks talking about the Cleveland Browns, the favorites in the sea north, my how things have changed in the last couple years you following the team's pretty closely be tough for Cleveland. Because that that vision is so tough, you know, with with Reagan's Cincinnati still right there. They always just be right there. And you got Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, always figure it out. You know, they have great ownership for reason. Yeah. You know? So they always figure it out. They have a lot going off all follow football the bit. You know, my son. My nephews play, you know. So it's about developing them share spending that time with them half the time, I'm making tacos on Sunday sun. So and he's running outside the play basketball. You know? So I mean, I follow as much as possible. I don't watch it. How we did. We were players. That's the only thing. I don't like like, I I don't get to see the whole twenty two. You know, you watching it on film on on TV is different era. Getting you're getting the fans view, which is phone the quarterback in the ball to the players view. Which is everything that's going. Makes it hard to do interviews and. People ask you all the time. You know, what do you think about a team? I watched it like you watch it. So I get that fast perspective. Now, you know, like you you missing a lot of things when you're not in that locker room. Oh, you not, you know, studying everyday like, you guys do people think he just show up. You just talk sports guys actually do work. You know? So yes, it's it's interesting now though, man really is. Well, one of the reasons you're here is with tickets for one hundred years tell us tell us when that initiative is what you're doing the league. Yeah. I mean, the league is doing some fantastic for the fans. It's all about the fans, obviously, we played this game in entertainment mode to make sure the fans enjoy it. The league is given away two tickets for the next hundred years to one fan, but to a family because they can pass it. Yes. Wow. Which is awesome. You know? I mean, I wish I can get in that. So so, and I'm pretty sure if you in Green Bay, you go home you can win those tickets, but you still have to get on lay away. It's crazy. But you know, again, the the the league is is is joining players and just going to be doing stuff all year long. They can they can hashtag fell on one hundred contests and at on Twitter or Instagram if I'm sure that's right. A NFL to to to apply for, you know, just showing that they found them showing showing crazy fans they love the game. Why they love the game. And and why they spend it with family myself. You know, I grew up at the park, I'm a park baby. Spun a lot of time my dad at the park, you know, playing ball. He coached me, I coached my son trae my nephews, and that's what it's about. It's about really that family time. You know, you get to spend that family time at a game. You must have been like being in the huddle and playing football and being on the field. I've never met anyone so calm. So so I mean, I'm was fell asleep. Just because they have fun. It wasn't just comfortably listened to your stories and go back into it. I hope nothing stresses you out when it comes to the hall of fame because you are collected as you can possibly. You are you so much for being with? Wpro persons, bro. Howard gap. Here. We have the back here. First things first even Jackson joins the show. Bundle of person. You guys are hanging out socially, wiping kids out of town me Stephen going hit the at the turn up. Colonel or song. Going guys we've got to LeBron a second first couple of place from last night and not gets in Celtics watch this Stephen Kyrie Irving mismatch with Mason Plumlee. Rumors. You wanna call? We're here. Why are they let make some Plumlee get out on island against the greatest dribbler? And that's where the good because able to switch warriors Spurs all Steph curry from about sixty feet out Nick buzzer, beater and the first though the courts ninety four feet long. Yes. Three point line is twenty seven feet. So that would know let me know. I'm right. That ain't no sixty one feet that would mean. That would mean a thirty three foot three pointer. That's wrong. Sixty one feet is wrong. NBA second spectrum. I was right. The first time I said, I knew my math wasn't wrong. Wouldn't question you if you start messing up the math, right problem these allies? Right. And I'm not ready. Derek Jones junior. These guys one of the best dunkers the heat, man. They got some dunkers ham. Bam craze Atlantic absolutely all right with this season. All but over for LeBron the Lakers all eyes now turn to summer plans. Not the fun kind of summer plans. These plans involve the Lakers trying desperately to pair LeBron with one of the game's top free agents, and they are certainly options out there kyri, Katie Kemba, I to name a few. Lebron was asked about this coming summer and had this to say there's a lot of great free agents. There's a lot of great this summer. Name any names because every time I say something organization says something about, you know, a specific person we get in trouble. So, but we have an opportunity to to get better. And that's very something. No says definitely great to not when you have an opportunity to get better from personnel. Sampoerna? I Stephen what's the draw for one of these guys the effort engined or any free agent to sign with the Lakers. There's always been assigned to me. I mean, I is going to the Lakers. You have the Brian James is the big still the biggest draw to me, you're not going to go to state all the Fed's not going to go to state. So the biggest is LA LeBron's aims. You have a chance to win a championship and play for the Lakers. How could you how could you not say Kay Dee decides to leave Golden State first day of free in he's in New York with LeBron being in L A K D in New York. Don't you think there's some type of competence and Kawai is the different cat. So he's not attracted to plane with either one like is this far as that those other things that would attract him. Do you think that as a free agent? Do you think don't you look at New York now also? If you're looking for a big market, but that's not guaranteed winning. So if you just want to come to a big market. Yeah. New York is a great place because if you want to win I think you go to LA if k Dave I'm Katie I stay in the state, you can get the most money there. And you're gonna win I would leave. What if anybody wanted to play with the Brian? It would be good the question. I think sees raising a really interesting question. Let's just assume. Kevin Durant announces first day. I'm New York and in so I free agent domino falls. And there's Kevin Durant with a MAC slot open next to him in New York City. There's LeBron James of the max law to open next to him in Los Angeles of those two options. Because what do you think is would be more attractive because I think people would think man a great player, plus Kevin Durant? No matter the team you're going to win just like a great player. Plus lebron. I think the winning would be looked at almost on par. So where do you think would be the bigger draw K D drawn people to the Knicks or LeBron drawn people's Lakers. That's what you're getting Katie come into the Knicks still not guaranteed champion. Ship. I think you got a better chance LeBron in LA, but championship wise Lakers can win title before the Knicks can if you have Katie plus someone else and LeBron plus someone else. Yes. I definitely I definitely agree that because of the other support and play because it is supporting players because of the situation, but don't. What do you? Well, we have become the team will not be as strong as the Lakers will be if they make a trade and get all that and get a free agent other eighty eighty trae young players AD that teams the team wouldn't be as good. But the other the MAC. Yeah. One of the different. So let's let's go through this because there's few tears these free agents. You tell me the guy that you think's the best fit so tier one's Kevin Durant. He's not going to retake for I wanna see Kyran Brana gun. No question. More than qui- mortar. Coa more than clay. I don't think. Yeah. I mean, clay clay ca- still happen if they get still happen anywhere. They still they signed to big free agent. But they're gonna have. But why do you because I also think LeBron kyri we've seen it before? We know it works. We know how they complement. Each other skill set wise, we know how a team with those is the top two guys compete with the warriors non Kevin Durant warriors. Which is the words I think are going to get next year. That's why I think that's a real possibility. And the I think why is a great option. It's just a different type of option into different type of team. And quite brings a different type of skill set. Obviously than Kyrie Irving. I think most people think wise, a better player than Kyrie Irving. I think vast majority of people believe that whether that means he's a better fit. I know you love. Game is to us. But so why the LeBron kyri thing in particular that jumps out to you? Because they've proven that they can win again. I mean is is no secret. Lebron was singing this song? Correa pottage is to them. Tell him what he was trying to teach to stand. Now. I think I think that bond is built into play again. And you add those two guys in the AD. That's championship basketball, you add LeBron and career New York and the couple of other guys journeyman that's not championship basketball, K D And Katya Kara here in New York that's not champs to basketball the first year. They're still going to know the player. This is what I worry about if Kyrie and LeBron get together this year number seventeen. The fan, man. Who y'all stop y'all gonna stop? I know y'all nice. I know y'all two thousand fifteen y'all still living off of that the shot and everything, but who y'all going to stop in the west Golden State gonna have clay and Steph San Antonio, they not going anywhere. Okay. See we they going to have to be dealt with Denver. They young like that the west is only getting stronger. So how y'all fin. So that's so if you signed free agent, you keep the young guys, right? So lonzo's there, and we know the impact Lonzo as defensively, and then what you have to do in my mind, if that's the move they make instead of MU assuming you can't get Anthony Davis just set that aside, then you use your young pieces to acquire a legitimate room protector because that is a totally fair concern is negative defender. Lebron this point in his career is a negative off ball defender. That's why I don't like the LeBron boogie cousins combo even boogies healthy. I don't think that works because you're. Center supposed to be rim protector. We know boogie is a bad defensive player. No matter what he is offensive -ly. We talked yesterday. Let's say they go down to tier two they miss out on all those guys. You don't think LeBron plus book works? What about you? Lebron plus Jimmy Butler like what tell me your temperature on those two. I liked him Bella because he brings up that detainees defense off his cO Koby, great too. Because you need a two way player over there. You need somebody that don't both sides. That's definitely what you need. But Kimba, I'm not. So because I think Kim worse defending kyri to be honest and car racing car. We bring these way smaller. No. He's don't get me wrong. A grace go. I love his game. Yeah. Sars what they need in LA. He's not that. And one thing that we saw Nick we're both at the game on Sunday in the garden. Lebron last-second lebrons a great player. But ended the game. It'd be nice to have a 'nother option to me of LeBron's going to get a shot. I don't want him to take it off the dribble. And that's something that he is just not comfortable doing. So whoever going to pair with them. I'm also thinking in closing out the. Games. That's why kyri would be nice. Even though you're worried about you know, the defensive end of things so collide would be nice with them. So those things to that you have to try to look at and trying to pair someone with LeBron LeBron plus coli a much easier to fill out the rest of the roster because you have to you know, exactly what those guys do. Well, and you wanna shooter you wanna probably at a stretch five like their things they're LeBron. Plus kyri will put would I think it'd be an excellent team. I know it would be. But then you need magic employ Inca to really know what they're doing on who are the undervalue defensive players. We can go acquire right? Like who are the guys that complement their game? That's where you need the smart guy in the room now to bring it back to the question of like is LeBron Laker still a draw. What do you make of the what seems to me to be a growing narrative that people don't wanna play with LeBron? Hear it. But I I don't see it. You know, I play I hear players always talking about, you know, the bride is a great guy. I would I wouldn't mind playing with him. I don't believe in the the media fiasco all that stuff. A lot of guys want that a lot of guys want that attention some guys don't, but it's a way to be around that and still be professional. You know, guys that have been around the game guys. They love basketball stand that whatever LeBron guys got guys going on doesn't affect my plate doesn't affect what I have going on. And it ended the day players level. I don't I don't hit that narrative at all. When you say you hear it you hear from players you hear from the media, or it's just hear from the media now side with the people, actually. Five in with these guys, and you got to to the concrete and you'll Rolodex strong as far as the players reach out to you and talk to you. It's just not true not true at all letter on in the show coming up twenty nine hundred hall of fame enshrinee, Ed Reed will join us here in studio. That's head on first things. First. Stories. The start your morning jerk. New EV came these sixth leading scorer in NBA history last night, passing Wilt Chamberlain account. Prices Dirks career been somehow become underrated six leading scorer ever top twenty guy all time regular season, MVP finals, MVP greatest European player ever and proved that you can win a title with European players. Your best player on your team. This is only Akeem has is a better foreign born player in NBA history and change the way as you pointed out see basketball's played to a degree absolutely spread into court either four or five changed the way guys play chains away younger players are trying to development. It's been a great story with with him playing there in Dallas too. That's the best place even more. So than maybe San Antonio for international players that they call to eight that talent there stretch for moving onto the warriors. Now, they lost to the Spurs last night, mainly due. Too tough shooting nine for both Steph and clay warriors now tied with Denver for the one seat in the west Nick is this a big deal. It's not it's a bigger deal. I think for San Antonio for Golden State, listen, Golden State was without boogie. It's katie's first game back. Klay was really bad. And Steph was off by his great defense by the Spurs, but the Spurs and the rodeo road trip that they have every year, and they went in a swoon now they've won nine straight. Now, they are climbing the standings. They theoretically could get the three seed when it's all said and done certainly could get to the top four line the Spurs rounding into form at the exact time, we expect Golden State before tonight. We thought they were around in the form too. So let's not overreact. They were cold shooting. And when you don't have K D, these are the thing, and you don't have boogie. These are the things that you worry about with them. He's not going to score bunch of point. You can't lock him in a gym and him store twenty at the C dusty look it up. See if he scored twenty year. So you know, like an katie's first game back. He's not going to be totally himself. And so. The no boogie and cold shooting. It's tough for them. I the Celtics continued their up and down season losing to the nuggets last night just by thirty points and four steals from Kyrie Irving Boston. Now, the fifth seed in the east one game back of the Pacers. See what do you make the Celtics with eleven games left? In the regular seasons has been the story of the season. We've been waiting for last year's playoff team. Plus Gordon Hayward in Kyrie Irving the show up Gordon late in the season gave was a couple of flashes. That potentially might get back to form next couple years. Kyrie's headache, Goodyear. But man, they've been in consistent more talented than last year. But not the chemistry. Not the not the ball movement not to help defense. No. And Brad Stevens to let's not forget him. When we talk about the Celtics up and down brass team. It's the most talented team you've ever had. You didn't get the best results out of them. But listen Denver's excellent team. But you're at home you're supposed to be at least on par with the nuggets your favorite in the game and the nuggets control this game. I know you don't have Gordon. Hayward? But kyri goes for thirty. And Jason Tatum was not good. That's a concern for them. Listen, this is the Celtics all year. We got eleven games they've been in fourth or fifth all year they're gonna finish the year in fourth or fifth. Maybe they'll turn gear in the playoffs. But we haven't seen that in this regular season. All right moving onto the Lakers. Among the teams many issues this season play calling rotations minutes falls on the responsibility of head coach. According to reports if the team moves on from Luke Walton that guy Doc Rivers might have interest in the job rivers has spent the last six seasons coaching the clippers nicotine action to the report. Doc Rivers is known to be able to finagle his way into a situation. He wants to be, but this would be a hard finagling silent extension ten months ago in may twenty eighteen we're in March of twenty nineteen and that extension is for more than ten million dollars a year and it runs through the twenty twenty one season. So two more years. After this one. Now, if he is able to get free if the Lakers could trade a future first or some type of compensation the way the clippers way will acquire him when he wanted to get out of Boston trading draft pick. This would be a no brainer. Listen, I like the idea of the Lakers. Hiring tight Lou I know that model works, but Doc Rivers is a proven championship coach that is as well respected as any coach in the league. He's obviously not Popper Carlisle as far as a -ccomplish what he is well respected as any coach in the league to be a no brainer. If the Lakers could get him. This would be the second best acquisition. They could make this summer after a star play heavily this going to be hard to get him. I asked the question, why would dock lead? Why would he leave the clippers just signed an extension? It must be to coach LeBron James because I think that the chemistry him Jerry West how in that front office. Getting this franchise turned around because what doc is doing right now in LA is strict tackler, I mean, they're not really really talented. But every night he has that team. I'm prepared. I've always thought that Doc Rivers was one of the better coaches in the league. His biggest problem was when he was tipped over all Abascal operation any traded for his son. He started getting criticized for those types of things. So besides that people don't question, his basketball basketball IQ and being a champion so men. This would be a tremendous get for the Lakers f they were able magic was able to get him away from Jerry West because there's a serious competition between magic and Jerry West and the clippers and the Lakers who both call home Stapleton. Oh, and there's another competition this summer between the Lakers and clippers for the services of quiet, Leonard and Doc Rivers. Switching sides could be dis-. I don't want to say that the deciding factor, but certainly a factor award talking about why would quite pick the Lakers over the clippers one of the first things we mentioned his coach. Yes, we know the clippers have a great coach we don't even know who the Lakers coach will be next season. So if you. All of a sudden subtracted from the clippers and added to your team that would be an enormous get I think it's hard to do. The Steve Bomer is not into is not in the business of letting people push them around. He's one of the richest men in the world. And so he's not going to have any problem paying Doc Rivers. These may Doc Rivers, reportedly one of the two highest paid coaches and all of basketball signed him to an extension like so it would be it's very difficult duck with him stuck with them. Absolutely. When things got rough for them and kept his salary super high. Even when he removes some of those responsibility. I just don't see I'm. Because I've had a lot of bosses in life into me. It's important what my ball thinks about me. And that I can trust them. I know that doc in the report he has their can't he have the same type of trust with Ginny bus and magic and Pelinka like and learn all those relationships over now, I don't know maybe behind the scenes there is a relationship between doc in Irving. That's the only way I see. And then the the caveat with LeBron build a coach if I'm gonna be coaching that loan Mayes Khosla Bron James, I'm in the same city. Don't have to don't have to move residencies everything like it would be a great get by the Lakers. The only other part of this that raise red flag because listen Peter Vesey reported this Peter Vesey doesn't tend to throw this type of stuff out there. If there's not at least some smoke there. Does is dot concerned that what he's hearing amongst league circles is that the clippers aren't going to be a sought after free agent destination this summer, they have all this cap space. They have all this availability. Because if they are going to get quite Leonard, if they are potentially going to get to max is people have talked about if Kevin Durant could possibly come there. Then I wouldn't think doc would even entertain the option of going to the Laker. So this story piqued my interest for a number of reasons. Let's take a break coming out hall of fame. Enshrinee Ed rejoins the show was doing. That's next on first. Stunned day the monster energy series moved over to f s one as nascar's finest battle around the paper clip in martinsville. It all starts at two eastern only on this one and the Fox Sports at Belk, your Bart Scott. We are going viral Bart five time Pro Bowl defensive tackle balodia his retirement after thirteen seasons. New Super Bowl champ. Did it in the most epic way possible by climbing? Mount Kilimanjaro holding a flag that reads on retiring from the NFL on top how about that was my God, man. I'll tell you what he was the Altima project protector. He was a gentle giant. I remember playing the Cleveland Browns in Gaza. Dive raise knees came over stood over to to the face never had to deal with that day won't this smoke. Yeah. This is tremendous accomplishment. Over a thousand people have made this climb ten days before have died takes. Between five nine days to do it. This might be the most the toughest accomplishment of his career. Great guy. They never tried it for I tell you what he's minutes. He was he was a high school rugby player. Oh, yeah. He was I don't know if you've ever seen that viral video. There's like nine year old kid just like mush and everybody that was hitting today. Everybody that math. You're trying to do. Right. There's one forty one again. Nerd. Very quiet. Start to free agency. It appears the Dallas Cowboys may be getting into the game. Eric berry will reportedly visit Dallas today. He needs a job. Cowboys need to safety berry spent most of last season on the Qin City Chiefs bench, recovering from an achilles tear. But he made the all protein three of his eight seasons in Casey before that. Bart Scott how much would the signing help the Dallas Cowboys when healthy? This is the best safety in the game. It's not even close. I mean, Earl Thomas is probably the closest to him. But because he's a little taller. He's got it can come in a box and play that dime, backer. He just hasn't been able to be healthy. You know, he's had a tremendous career. I think he's a borderline hall of Famer you look at what Dallas needs. He is a nice little player. But this this would be a tremendous upgrade in Dallas has really been busy because they have to make sure that guy's fault in them. Don't have twenty four million dollars in salary cap space. I think they can clear some wanting to math. I was playing around with here Nick was with their cap number. I think they should get rid of. Sean Lee nation could Allen say they'll never main Dallas Lee restructure, and I'm like why restructuring Banderas that's sometimes when Jerry Jones to be a little bit too loyal because time to cut the core, Sean Lee and be able to clip from space. So you can make sure that you sign. Mark Cooper, make sure that you can get DeMarcus Lawrence on a long term deal to relieve some salary cap space. So that you can sign Zico Elliott me Ezekiel Elliott, but also you can you can sign deck in that that that's one that's going to hurt them because that's one is going to cost them future young players and the other listen, you mentioned shown Lee Now, Sean Lee took a reduce number your point is the reduce number should be zero because you have Jalen Smith, and and Vander esh, but that's maybe a little loyalty extra loyalty there. The Jason Witten thing we've talked about three million their five million the money. All of a sudden starts to add up the one name. You didn't mention as far as guys into resigns? Byron Jones now Byron Jones has a year left on his deal fifth year option, but unless you want to be in the same position room with the Lawrence where you gotta use the franchise, tag or the players got. Over a barrel. You want to resign him early? That's going to eat into your cap space. That's why a player like Eric berry to me is absolutely worth the risk for Dallas. I've known Eric since he came into the league criminal Eric since he was in high school. He is towards blew out his knee came back made an all pro team got cancer came back made no pro team popped his achilles. And he's played in one game and two half games since then that so there is no there's not a player in the league right now that is a bigger health concern. But if you can get him for a couple million dollars because he's Billy's ten you got to be a cinnabon. No, I would be shocked verict barricades ten million dollars. I think the I think that the market for him is going to be where maybe could be where if he makes an all pro team jumps up a bunch like, but I think his base salary less than four million bucks. It's pretty obvious. The chiefs don't think he has that much football left in him. He's got enough to make it work for the Cowboys. I don't think was that. Is that the day? No they had to identify other players. They gotta get signed. That's what I could Houston because eventually they're going to have to pay Mahomes, and I've heard contracts as much as two hundred million dollars in a main when when he's going to be up. They gotta pay tyreek hill. Now tyreek hill voided that out because you know with the child abuse allegations. I think you can hold it over says say, listen, we're not gonna invest you long term. And so that's why they let air berry go because they need to Saleh cats because he was the highest paid sake into game. He's not worth going on that just so people understand he was going to be sixteen million on their cap this year if he was on the team legacy player for a million dollars. They keep you there. His dead. Money's fifteen million. Now, they can do the post June first thing where they split that up. But ultimately, it's fifteen million cap dollars for cutting Eric berry, whether it's all this year or over the next two years, the chiefs think what unfortunately, I think is probably true watching is that the achilles injury was defacto career ender, then became bone Spurs in his heel. But if you that's why I think he'd only a couple million bucks. I think it would be a flyer team would take and he's lets people didn't come back from cancer. The chief didn't give them a long term contract for two years after he came back from the cancer because they were worried about. That he's proving people wrong time, and again, but he hasn't been able to stay on the field since week one of twenty seventeen will we should take alarm to Kansas City releasing them because they only saved a million dollars. And that the guy has meant that much to you. And I know how they feel about him as a person he's worth having around the team the problem with players like Irit is to problems where you have a resume in one place when you go to Dallas or some other place, if you get Nick you get hurt it's a wrap because they don't we don't have any history together. We don't have these years where you saw me play. So those things that you know, about me when you're playing with the organs as they become familiar with he he's not going to have those things, and regardless of what kind of person you are regardless of what kind of leader you are if you cannot get on the field bark and help us out as a team. We is ineffective players. We don't care. We don't care. How many times you've been all pro? We'll we'll Cami interceptions. You will care. Because you're not playing right now. And guys do not listen to you as a -ffective -ly when you're in the huddle, San listen watch it now they might put a double move on us. We're going to switch to cover too. Like they list compared to when you own the sideline you got one coaches things on they just don't listen to you the same way. Right. Bart. Absolutely. But you know, the best ability is availability. But back that he finished playing the last two games. I know it took a long time. And I think that the the ball Spurs just compensation from the from the Killys. So I think he's outta the safe zone now where he can be healthy and being a move forward. I mean, I've seen to rail sucks towards achilles twice and came back. He's an older player, and he still affective. So I think Burkey still has a lot of football ahead of him. He's gonna have to change a little bit about high plays how he prepares yourself. But I think he can come. He can help this get to the next level to get over the hump because they're in the window. But that window is closing because all those liming today. They're starting to pay those cat numbers starting to come hit. Nagging gotta pay the toll see the point you made about if you're with a different team than the one you came up with their. Going to be a patient with you. That's the Ray Lewis story at the end, right, right? Louis tours bicep and any other team would have probably said, listen, we got to put you on. I r he had the credibility with that organization to say don't I can come back at the end because he was mighty go straight hand yet last time they won the Super Bowl. It was not healthy throughout that whole was hurt more net. And Fred tiller Fratello was hurt. All the time in Jacksonville win later in his career figure things out and got got healthy state healthy for New England will help them be successful. So players can be injured and go sometimes you go through we injured one or two years. And yet you figure it out. I think he's I think he's out of the dangerous. All right, fart. Thanks for joining us. About away. Man. Appreciate that. You can hang out with us. But just off camera. 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56: Eric Berry is funding open source with CodeFund

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56: Eric Berry is funding open source with CodeFund

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When he joined the team of consensus in get coin, we talked to the Baxter of his ideal arrogance of passion about funding open-source at the advertising being unapologetically focused on your mission, the value, honesty, openness, and the future direction of coat. We're talking about the funding open source that is the topic today show talk with Eric berry founder of code fund previously long, sir, Eric, how are you? Good. How you doing? It's a good day. I've actually been waiting believe this, but I've been waiting for this call. I've been wanting to have this conversation with you for a long time. Kleiber finally having, why is that? So I put this show on haggis about five years ago and I love the kind of conversations. I'm hoping we're about the half which is kind of like this leering of an onion revealing. So the details behind lessons learned and building a business, which is not easy, and I'm a fan of yours fan you're doing as as you probably know. And you know, I resume this show probably a few months ago after a five-year haggis and my passion is really digging into these kinds of stories. And so when I when I was bringing the show back and I made my list, your name is on it so go, I appreciate that. No, you guys have been a pretty big influence for me. So you know, mutual respect there for sure. Thank you. I took a drink my coffee because I need my any my juice to to make it through its two o'clock now. But that's when I take my second Cup of coffee. I don't know about you. I got my t right next to me and he go. So code sponsor was reasonable name. It's now code fund. We've got sort of a long journey to strap pass, but just a quick highlights, I'll cover them and you can fill in the blanks from I understand a year ago last month to eighth was when you begin your journey years, probably maybe that's the date of inception of code. I'm not sure what what the exact birthday really means and since then, you know you've had some issues with get hub. You've learned lots of lessons, eve change your business model. You've been acquired from what I understand from a consensus. What I wanna do for like tell that quick version the story to give some context listeners and the rewind back to the beginning to say, where did this begin for you? So help me fill in the kind of the t. l. DR over arching. We'll go. We'll go back in the past a bit. Yeah. I think the start off with maybe a little bit about me as a in who I am. I may. I'm a software developer. I've been doing development since the late nineties. I started off in started off in PHP and what the job and then and then ruby is where I was introduced to the whole open source world and his back in two thousand and eight since then I've pretty much clamped down on ruby for very long time, and anybody who's listening knows that the ruby communities pretty remarkable owner comes to when it comes to open source and and helping build tools for each other. And so I grew up. Professionally in this atmosphere where we're all giving each other. I had my heroes back then Remmy sharp. Of course. There's Tom Dale and and and you cats and and d. h. h of course, and a lot of people who are doing massive contributions to the community, and it was so fascinating to watch every single time that happened. It was just another tool in my tool belt, right? And and so I became very calm. Maybe comfortable is probably the right word. I became comfortable with with utilizing open source for my for my personal career growth. And I've been doing so for for very long time. And so back in July of last year I was working for a company. I wasn't too thrilled working there and I wanted to be able to start something on the side. And when I did that, I, I asked myself, what can I possibly provide? That's not out there. And and I, we had some ideas that might work might not work, but I thought about what what am I passionate about? And I'm passionate about open source and I have a background in marketing, so so the the whole idea kind of came out of it was I remember that I remember the day I was driving to work and it just hit me. I think I can marry the two and help open source continue to grow through through marketing and advertising, and once that idea clicked it, everything stems from that kind of fell right into place. My mind. It's interesting to two for one, of course, Romy sharp, huge influence remind DJ definitely, Tom del you. Huda cats significant contributions across all four of those people into the Java script and the Rubio systems, right? I remember reading Remy sharps blog way back in the day. I'm just thinking like, how does this person poor much in, you know, and then DJ's contribution to the real world with rails and Tom Donahue, two cats with ember. We've documented some of that. The only person you mentioned on that list that hasn't been on any of our podcast is Romy sharpish affects that. Yeah, definitely been Greg. I don't know how that happened, but I go your. I echo your list for sure. What's interesting is how you how you said, I, I know what a help have a heart for helping. I love this. I have experience in this in a one being open source, the other being marketing. How can I marry the two. And I think many people actually maybe take that perspective. They just dive into something the seems like you're a little bit more methodical by your by your process. Can you speak to that well, so speak to that. I wanna talk about kind of how developers view funding and open source for the most part. What I've seen across the board is developers, think funding comes from sponsorships and buttons to and stickers. Right. Exactly. So you see all these developers who are putting these pay buttons on their websites on their get Hubbard me's and hoping that they'll generate funding, and I'm sure we'll get into open collective, which is basically the super powered version of that, which works really well for certain cases, but, but most of the time, the way what I was saying was this money that was that everybody's fighting for everybody wants to get more money in the table, but it's all coming from this. This donation slash charity fund, which is always limited that funding is limited, and it's going to be the first. If it's coming from company, it's the first thing to go and anything gets tight. And typically developers are hoping that other developers will donate and in I've donated to some projects before, but again, then I turn around and have my own projects and then who donates to me. So the question is, why are we approaching this problem from a charity funding source point of view when we could say, okay, well, why don't we tap into marketing budgets and say, and then all of a sudden that the the pockets, the depth of the pockets becomes infinite as long as those those marketers can actually see a return on their end, they'll keep on dishing out money. And so that's that was what that was. The reason why I decided that advertising was the way to go now. Now, of course, back then. I took a very naive approach. I'm like, well, you know where a few few things that that come to mind when I started. This is one I know that people don't like to change. I don't like to change developers. Don't like the change of change is tough and to be something that's adopted and I've had experience in the past, but for something I shall be adopted, it has to be where the amount of change is is is less than the amount of reward that comes from that change or the pain or the pain, right. The pain has to be greater than than the the change would that would be required to resolve it. So I knew that the best way to do this in my view in my now, you view was while let's stick ads on get hub. It's got a lot of us visibility. It's the first place. People tend to go to a say. This opens was project. Homepage, which is typically get page or the read me, which is the second probably the, you know, equal first second visible piece of an source project. Yeah. So I took this idea and I pitched it to a friend of mine, ten or Lindsey, and he is the person behind a react table and several other barely popular projects, and I asked him, I told him this idea of like, hey, what if I made a way for you to place an unobtrusive add on your get hub, your hub, read me, and then you'd get paid on a per click basis. And the unobtrusive part was so key. I'm a developer in the last thing I want to see a bunch of bagel banner ads on get hub. So the way it was designed was it was text only it looked different enough to not be deceiving, but similar enough to not be distracting, right? Which is a balance. It was a hard balance, but the people that I've talked to who sought most of the people that I point the ad out to have to. Say, I have to point it out. Now when you read it, it's very clearly an ad. Well, what we what, what we considered it, what I consider the time was more sponsorship. So. Sponsor, headse- name, cut sponsor. So I took a step back and I reached out and I said, I wonder if I can find an advertiser that's interested in in getting in front of the audience that that Tanner is generating. So Tanner has a pretty big audience of Java scrip- developers. I reached out to a couple of people just coke flat out cold called and said, hey, this is what I'm doing. Would you be interested and several several people said, yeah, let's give it a shot. And so that started in July and July think I paid out twenty dollars or something like that in in. To the developers, I think paid at the Tanner and one other guy, and then month after month at kept on increasing. So. In July had I think, only like five by repos that it was working with the application integrated directly with get hubs so that when you sign in a list, all of your public repositories then you can just select which ones you want to do and it'll generate a code for you to place. The way it worked was wasn't a coat. It was. It was a dynamic SVGA image. So that's that's how we got around no scripting on get hub is that that image when that request came in, the image would look at the request. It would know exactly what property that's for. It would find the proper advertiser for that property and then render on the fly. The ads script or the ad in SPG format, super inventive by the way. I mean, that's like you kind of gloss over quickly, but getting past the no scriptural inside of a get breed me or just remained general. I mean, that's that's pretty smart. Dude. I saw Jerry, I, I thought we were both taking the back and I was like, that's really inventive. Wow. I have far in between. I have some moments of the brilliant, great. Everything else is kind of like a. Yeah. So it worked really, really well. Now, there were some Gotcha to it. One is get hub uses an, I can't remember the name of it anymore because I haven't looked at it in so long, but they use a basically an anonymous her layer on their requests so that the headers that come in on any image request or actually they're all coming from get hubs server locations, and they don't pass any information as like if it's mobile, if it's anything. So that's that led to the decision to go cost per click over cost per thousand impressions or PM. Because if we went PM which would have been. More fair for the for the publishers for the for the developers, but because because we couldn't actually prevent fraud in that way, we, we decided and I say we allowed at the time, it was me, but eventually became a, we. I decided to to just do CPC cost per click. And it was a pretty flat rate. I would charge advertisers about a dollar a click which is well under what they're used to paying. And I would pay out anywhere between forty to fifty percent of at the time to the to the developer, the amount that you're having them pay is kind of shallow death at that point. Like it wasn't. I don't wanna mention competitors, just not. It's not the point. Just mentioning that you weren't the point. I'm trying to make that you weren't trying to be greedy. No, you were trying to find a way with the easiest way to enter this market that enables you to get some traction on both sides. Both the advertiser silent developer side. And the easiest way is to make accessible. Yeah. And when I started it, I didn't really have a an entrepreneur mindset in mind. I've been a part of businesses before I've owned a business before, but only as the developer and the business I've never actually had to deal with the financial side or anything like that. And as I was going throughout the months doing this, I was doing on the side in my own time, and I started realizing I really wanna do this full-time and I'm going to need to do this fulltime. It was putting a lot of a lot of pain on my family. I was getting up at four in the morning every day to work on it and working on late. So as putting in probably seventy hour weeks, you know, forty at work and thirty just on this and it got to the point where my my wife said, look, you have to choose either code sponsor or our family because this can't continue. And so part of the reason for the stress was that we weren't making enough money. And so initially we started off at a fifty percent share just a flat split between the developer and code sponsor, but I ended up pushing it back to forty percent so that code sponsored bringing sixty. And what I found is that we just weren't making enough money to become sustainable and it's interest. It's it's a hard thing to explain to people one when you're taking away something they had before, but to China, explain like this has to be a sustainable company in order for this whole thing to continue if I can't do this or if I can't keep this going, then everybody's being shut off. Nobody makes any money at all. And so that was a pretty rough time seeing that realization. That was right around October. I believe when we really star. To get some traction. What do you when you say traction? What do you? What do you consider traction at time? Can you kind of late to give us a bird's view of what trash then? I think that there was a there was a cycle of of interest that came in into a cut sponsor. So what happens? I would people look at that location and be a little wary, like is this for real? Are we really going to get paid? How does this work? And then I would pay people and then they would tweet about it. And once I tweet about, hey, I just made one hundred dollars with code sponsor. People got interested and there was that validation and now it happened month over months are always knew like within the first week, I would see a huge increase in new users because people who got paid, we're talking about. And I think about three months in, yeah, probably around September, September, October. We saw some really, really fantastic growth where and I'll just tell you in July I pay twenty dollars in August. I paid three hundred dollars to developers in September. I pay twenty five hundred, so so that was actually in September is when we saw serious growth. Then in October in October, I paid out thirty four hundred developers. So it was. It was pretty exciting. We're really excited. Unfortunately, the, you know, the Honeyman of all that kind of came to a close while I was at get hub universe. Yeah, this is. This is kind of an interesting next segment into this story which which was like, you know, obviously the last thing that. Get hub and potentially, as you even said yourself, developers would want is as in read me in making this 'cause not everybody has your your viewpoint of like making them not stand out in blend in, but not quite blend in the what we talked about earlier. None of has that viewpoint. So the position that that get took on this was like, you could be an enemy to their state in the fact that you're injecting unintended things. Dynamic ads essentially into one of their pretty read me's and you you, you became, you know, there's a conflict there, essentially. Can you breakdown maybe what happened and how that played out. So we had some really large properties really large repos using code sponsor at the time. One of the largest was singer sources. Awesome list. Right? And that I believe was the number one largest property on. On on get hub. It was generating at ton of traffic and. I went back and forth with singer, and we we tried to make the ad look good and fit right and not be obtrusive, but also still be affective. And what ended up happening is let me take a step back. I also wanted to show the world that. I had get hub support even though at the time I really didn't. And this is me being naive and scared. I was scared. I was scared a talk to get hub directly and say, hey, are you okay with me doing this? And I didn't, and I looked at their at their terms and at the time their terms weren't as clear as they as they became after after everything went down. So there was a little bit of a loophole and I thought, okay, I'm gonna comfortably, sit in this loophole, and I decided what better way to show the world that get hub supports, code sponsor, then to sponsor get hub universe. So I reached out to them. I said, hey, I'm interested in sponsoring gida universe. Would you be okay with that? They said, absolutely. I sent him a six thousand dollars and a logo, and that was it. And now we were on their website for frigate hubby in verse twenty seventeen fantastic. It was a huge boast for for people's trust in the system to make sure that they will continue to be supporting get paid. And so I took Tanner, who was, as I mentioned before, the first the first user and he helped he helped kind of brainstorm. A lot of a lot about cut sponsor wasn't the time I took him to to get hub universe with me. Having a great time. Getting to know people. I met Nadia Akbal. They're a fantastic person got to meet a whole bunch of people. It was a great opportunity to to try and connect with new advertisers on new sponsors for the for the platform. And then I, I remember getting an Email from singer, I think on day two. And in that Email, he said, hey, I just wanted you to be aware, get his asked me to pull the plug on code sponsor and read this, read the silver in the silver, and I thought, oh my gosh, what am I gonna do? So immediately I went over to like the get hub support area. They had a support area, and I said, hey, this is who I am. I'm with code sponsor. Can I talk to somebody about this? And I got some crazy looks like, oh, you're the crazy person that's trying to tear down the ship or whatever it might. You know it was like a bad feeling that I got out that area. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, about Deepal. And so I was like. They, they didn't wanna talk to me. It came down. Look, we can't talk to you. You have to go through this channel. So Danner and I sat down, we drafted a big long Email explaining what we are, the reasoning that they wanted the pulled this because they claim that we were in ad platform. And even though we weren't technically platform, we showed a lot of signs of being an ad platform. We were trying to be a sponsor a away for sponsors to be able to fund projects. Now you gotta understand, open collective does let me let me talk about open collective for a moment because it is important here. First off, let me say I am a tremendous fan of open collective. I think that what they've done and are continuing to do and we'll do in the future is unbelievable for those who don't know what a collective is. It is a it is a non, I believe it's a not for profit organization that allows. Developer teams to generate funding for their projects where open collectible, receive the money, do the taxes, and then they will pay out based on a public requests. So if part of the team says, I want to spend money for stickers or I want to spend money for t shirts, I want to spend money to go to this conference or whatever. It might be that that's what that funding is for now as great as that is almost everybody that I've spoken to that participated with code sponsor the time did not want to do that. They didn't like the public nature of it. They didn't like not being able to spend money on what they wanted to spend money on. It's not fit. I can understand. It's not a fit for everybody. It's definitely a fit for some, but not for everybody. So open collective really focuses well on on on the aspect of enabling sponsorship directly code fund our code sponsor at the. Time was more of a way for advertisers to get money to those developers that don't wanna participate in open collective. So. When I received that, we drafted an Email and we sent it along explaining why we're not an ad platform and explaining steps that will take to move on. And we thought that was it. We thought, okay, I think it's handled. We'll wait. And then we waited and waited, and we waited and eventually I got eventually, I got response, and that led to a chain of more responses. Talk is brought to you by robot catch airs before users resolve. Here's a minutes of confidence. Roll bar is loved by developers, trust by enterprises. And most of all these robot here change law, you can roll bar tried today at no cost to, you know, credit cards required our listeners get access to the bootstrap plan with one hundred thousand vents for free for ninety days to get started, hit a robot com slash change. Eric, you're, you're waiting, you're waiting and you're getting a response from get up and. Here. You know, you get an understand the mentality that they had here. It was really frustrating for me because I tried to explain in these emails, look, this is the good that we're doing this. Why redoing it? I'm not doing this to be rich. I'm not doing this to make a big name for myself. I really just want to help developers get funding for open source. That's that should be part of our lives as open source developers, right? You're talking to somebody who should care about what you were cared about to. Right. Exactly right. Exactly. Now. In hindsight, I I understand where they're coming from, and and I'll get to that. So they got back to me and they said, look, we don't see any engagement directly between developers and advertisers developers and sponsors. That's why we don't. That's why you're not allowed on here. Okay. I can work with us, so I went, I got back in the code, change the system around to make sure that not only were advertisers being pre-selected by developers. So in the system originally, when you log in as a developer, you actually choose which advertisers you want to participate in funding your project. So what I did was I changed it so that the sponsors also had approve or disprove disapprove, which which. Developers they wanted to fund, so is very much a two way street. So I thought, okay, this is this. Is it. I announced that things are great. I, I. And then after that, I wrote back to to get out by said, this is what we did. Thank you for letting me know we're good now. No, we're not. No, we're not good. They write back. They said, no, no, you're not good this. This actually is really bad. Your ads are are still your your images. Still ads. What we, we only we don't want support that type of thing. So in in a last ditch effort, and this is this is a November in the last jeffer- I wrote back said, okay, look, you're not giving me any clear answers and they wouldn't. They said, and they clearly stated. It's not our job to tell you how to make this work as just our job to enforce the rules there enough. So I wrote back and I said, okay, tell you what I'm gonna change us up completely to essentially be exactly like open collective, but only service those projects that open that people don't qualify for open collective because open collector required a minimum of hundred stars at least two developers on the project, and it required a certain amount of. Well, I think I can't really speak for them, but at the time I talked to Pia multiple times. I spoke to her multiple times on the development of this. I even asked her late, are you okay if I mimic your style on get home? And she said, no problem. So I told that to, I wrote back. An Email to get her pleading with them saying, hey, this is our effort is why we're doing it, and here's what I can do, and you're already allowing it. So I'm just asking for permission to do the exact same thing that you're allowing them to do. I got an Email back from instead of their support. I got an Email back from their legal department and they said, we summarize, they basically said, look, we, it's our platform. We reserve the right to allow or disallow anything that we choose on our platform. We disallow you if you're not off of our platform by by December eighth, then we will be forced to take legal matters. That's not the kind of Email you want nose, not the kind of the pockets for sure, yeah. And here I am doing this on the side, losing money. I put in thirty thousand dollars of my own money into this trying to make it work. And even though I was taking a cut, it was nowhere near what it actually costs to do, including the sponsorship and the marketing materials and trying to build it up. So it was really, really hard. So in in November, I sent out an Email to everyone. I published an article called why funding open source is hard. I in that article, I detailed the growth and success of code fund or cut sponsor, and I explained why it's shutting down. And I basically said in in that in that blog post that I'm I'm stepping out I'm shutting down completely. Yeah. Now. It was so hard for me. So hard in family had a big part of it. I wasn't up for the fight, you know, you know, you can get kicked so many times and if you know the kick is coming, it's not as hard. But once you're after so many kicks and your family's saying, like, look, this is not going to work for us either. Then you you really start to rethink things. Yeah, we got to prioritize the important things in businesses. Great. All that good stuff, but family comes first a second, xactly understand your perspective there. So you ended this article this post very, very detailed post on hacker noon on medium. I don't even what the the impressions the readership was this particular post, but I know they got a pretty, you got one hundred thousand almost two thousand class, which is. What a big deal on medium and you ended up by saying I'm done, but yeah, but you weren't. But I wasn't now, so I wasn't because. It didn't make sense to completely shut it off. I did shut down the platform. I stopped tracking, but I still had developers who trusted me and relied on me to help them get funding. And I had a good friend Mike Smith who I believe, you know, over it roll bar who's now get prime. And Mike, I asked my said, are you willing to stick with me? And what I can do is you keep providing funding for all of these top performing sites, and he looks at him as top performing. I look at him as like, knitting. The most funding I said, will you continue to provide funding for them? And I will just take a fifteen percent cut, and that will essentially make it so that we can still do the tracking. We're still running through a tracker, but I didn't eat any of the money. The money was literally just to help the server room. Right? He said he said, absolutely. So he had no issue. That. So I paid out in December. I paid all the remaining money to all of the people that I money to, which came to almost five thousand dollars. And then I had an extra thousand dollars of nickel and dime all of the other publishers that are all of the other developers that didn't make enough money to to receive that payout. So I, I made a lump sum donation of thousand dollars to the h. one organization for fighting human trafficking and other blog post listing every single developer that participated as donor in that donation because it wasn't my money. It was. It was I didn't consider it my money. I didn't want it. So I so December I talked to a buddy of mine in pretty Freddie Shelton and I asked my said, hey, are you interested in code sponsor? Got all these contracts that up. I got Mike here. Would you like to take it over? Sure, absolutely. So he did and he, he, he kept it going for a month all the way through early January. And in that time I was kind of going to this point in my life where I hate my job, I, I need to find purpose. I've found true purpose in funding open source, but I need to be able to go somewhere that that I can do that and get paid for it. And that's what I did. I over the over the course of three months. I've been talking to Kevin walkie who is the CEO and founder of a get coin. And get coin is a product that helps developers get paid to contribute to open source funding through bounties. We became friends over the months and he offered me a job to come work at it coin, which I accepted. Once I got to get coin, I thought, no, I wonder if I can just pick up where left off and bring code fun back in or coat sponsor back in. So I reached out to Freddie. I said, how's it going. I said, would you be willing to sell me back the company? And he did. I gave him some money for the company, and then I brought it in as just my contribution to get coin at just here's me, here's what I can bring to the table. I don't want any money for it. They paid a few of the expenses that I had for the for the product, but but all in all it was like coat code, sponsor, joins get coin as sister companies, but they're basically one company now because we're all getting our paycheck from the same same company and all that stuff. But my role at that point became make this work, help people through ethical advertising. Resilience is somehow you made it through what Seth Godin describes. It's still probably a dip for you, but there's a portion of a dip there, right? Like the hard part is, is. All the hurdles that come up along the way to to having the ability to do it a long term. I'm not sure what get quince funding is another part of consensus. I'm sure they got a lot of resources to to level you out and whatnot. But I mean, you got new license now you got licensed to to keep trying, which which to entrepreneurs like? Yes. Give me more time at the same time. You're not damaging your relationship with your family. Yup. Which has got to be the most important thing of all that, right? Oh, by far? Yeah, absolutely. By far get coin, get coin enabled, and I, I'm forever indebted to Kevin for this get coin enabled the rebirth you could say of of of Cote sponsor, and it was I, I have to mention. Part of part of, I think part of the reason why. I served through all these kicks to the groin is there's a guy I meet every every Tuesday has name is Mark, you and and we, he, he's an entrepreneur Hughes, just really busy, busy guy. And he told me as we're going, he kept saying, like, look for the next punch look for, look for the next kick. It's coming. It's coming. That's what this is all about. So I was kind of coached to to to be prepared to be kicked and to be prepared to have these failures and not and not collapse under them. So it was almost like, oh, okay. Well, I know the next one's coming. It's probably gonna be within a month. Okay. These are the likely this is likely what it's going to be. And then I kind of mentally prepare for. It allows me to get on further that that was a huge, huge help, but then things got a little bit easier in in January. I started started with consensus in January, like you said. Immediately went out to this insane retreat for the whole company. They flew the whole company somewhere, and we had this week long retreat and I realized like, I'm not in Kansas anymore. Diff- things are different. Now there's difference when when you're in a place that actually has money. So what that bought me was the ability to focus on the developer focus on the problem which is funding open source and trying to help build that solution. So the pivot that I decided to do and say, okay, we're no longer even going to bother trying with get get hub and. In hindsight, knowing that they were in the process of being purchased by Microsoft and they didn't want to through any type of crazy craziness into that deal or any any type of wild card. They didn't want a wild card to be visible in that sell. This is my view. It totally makes sense now that I know that they were selling Microsoft, why they didn't want anything to do with me. Yeah, an-and I accept that. I accept that completely. I also accept the fact that they couldn't tell me at the time and so you know, look, I'm good with it. Now I still love get hub. All my codes on get hub. All the code is open source for for code fund. That's all on get hub and but it allowed me to focus more on on the developers. That's what I did. So by month, we continue to grow and we're still continuing to grow. We are on websites right now such as j has been with Remmy sharp material. You why nuxie j. s were on ruby lower were on probably fifteen pretty highly popular websites right now. And the what's really cool about this is not only do I get a send them checks every month, and now I'm paying up the seventy percent, seventy percent of whatever revenue comes in goes to them up to. So not only is that amazing, but. Partially it's the reason the reason why they chose us over the other guy. I'm kind of curious here you now saying this is say the term websites, so pretty high traffic websites. Jay spins one of them a couple of just mentioned there. Where is the developer in this? What is the relationship with code fund now kinda stumbled a couple of times and co-sponsor code fund. That's because you've had these identity changes over time, so, but where's the developer currently in the code fund system? How do you help the developer now right now, what I do is I look for websites that are humidity servicing whether it be an application that developers use for free, whether it be blogs or articles or newsletters that service the community. But any developer who was putting their time towards. Making life better for other developers. I looked to help, and so I reached out Remmy. I reached out to Olivia over at a material. I reached out to Michael Levitt over at regular. I reached out all these people because these are websites that I'm familiar with. I know they're working hard to service the community. So I asked them, I said, hey, would you like to participate? And a lotta times they say, no, but every now and then they say, yeah, site bring the men. They create an account. They can see near real time what their what their money is coming in and and we pay them every month. I just try and keep them happy because Chris thinking of the open source who's who's thinking of the maintainers. Right? Everybody's thinking about the code and what can the co do for me and what all that stuff. But who's thinking of the maintain her? And I think of an example. It's a sad example. The story of Jack Luchik Lucas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we've had two times. Yeah, so he creates this. This insanely incredible bootstrap competitor called semantic UI. He's the only guy maintaining it and this thing explodes forty thousand stars on get up, right? We is it to use it as our as the UI component system for our back end to just make an adamant so much easier to deal with. 'cause. Oh yeah, who wants to design and like build their own Adleman. It's sort of pointless which you want to focus on the design for the customer facing sides of things. Not so much your sides could experience. But mean Jack made it easy for us to do that with Mickey Medicare. Right? Exactly. Late last year in December, I actually have a quota. You don't mind me sharing? Sure. Please. He said on December twenty. First of last year, he said after having spent about three years of my life trying to make open source work with part-time proprietary work or just plain being broke. I don't think I know of any other way that seems reasonable without compromising the software. Unfortunately, it means I have to push back into element until I can find the means of financing to sustain it. It's it's it's a frustrating thing and I saw the anger in in the issues I was I I've I've been following semantic you I for a long time and I know that he was overwhelmed at one time. I actually calculated to myself. Okay. Well, he has let me see at the time when last year he had about five hundred eighty issues. So I thought, okay. Well, what if it takes thirty minutes per issue to solve and what if he charges seventy five dollars per issue and calculated, it was something like forty thousand dollars like it. Get him out of the hole, and I think that's wrong. But just off of my memory as a lot of money to like the he's giving up now this is not money that he can make. This is money that he's not going to make that he's going to give up because he has to spend that time doing that versus other work that might make money. Right. So again, I wanna keep people's eyes on the maintain her, and that's what code code fund is no code. I should probably explain code fund. How has it changed as it changed in its makeup since co-sponsor because I mean for me, I'm playing kits to so explain to me. So when when when coach sponsor became part of get coin, the thing that always bothered me once we moved away from get hub is that we're not really doing sponsorships anymore. And in fact, I think the name sponsor could be deceiving when used on an ad platform which we embraced and became in January. So I decided, well, let's rename it. Let's make it fit more of the get coin brands. So we renamed its code fund. Our website is now code fund dot IO, and we rebranded the logo a little bit to to look more like coins. But anyway, I believe that our our goal is more about funding code versus sponsoring coat. So you say that. Not many people maintain her, and you got this example of Jack Jack leads who is doing great work on to make you I and it's a shame to be that deep into a project and be a single maintain have really no financial way out as he had said without changing the model of the way that you deliver this source project, and there's many people out there who decide to do like side kick. For example, psychics. I pro- my parents denigrate job with that. There's different ways you can go about things and not as you said earlier the same with with Pia that you there's not one way to do everything, not everybody who wants to do up source wants to make a community version a pro version. Right? And so you are is trying to find a way to match people who can receive value from exposing their brand audience and those who don't want to change their business model or their inquiry. Model of producing their open source work. You wanna find some sort of like, you know, 'harmonious way to connect both. Right. Is that where you're at right now? One hundred percent. In fact, I, I gave a talk at a conference the ruby hack conference back in April. And in that talk, I actually defined how how developers rules need to change in order to to really increase funding in open source. Now, any developer that comes in the first thing, the easiest, the easiest thing to do would be to add a button to their repo and say, hey, donate money if you're using this very easy, but the likelihood of any return on that as next to nil kency Dods, which he's a fantastic, fantastic person. We both know creative cross end and many, many, many wonderful libraries. He had those buttons on his on every one of his projects per year, and he didn't receive. One donation, not one, so I- visualize in this talk, I visualized a graph that's essentially an exponential curve. And on the bottom part of the graph is is amount of money. I'm sorry, the bottom part of graph is the amount of money that you can receive potential earnings and on the left part of graph going up is the amount of change that a developer's required to perform in order to make that happen. And you mentioned the entrepreneur, which there's a lot of money to be made in that onto preneurs side of open source. If that's the way you wanna go. It's been proven with side kick in. It's been proven with many other libraries, but at the end of the day, he got to be unicorn to pull that off. You really have to know how to market yourself, how to advertise, how to build a company, how to create a business model. It's going to turn a profit and how to maintain like both sides of the free and for cost of this. Project and on top of that, your project has to be popular enough to justify that type of thing. Kind of middle ground that I've found is. Is support. Now, a good example that I, that I show as trailblazer trailblazer is a, it's like a framework that sits on top of rails that changes things around and makes it a little bit more want to save her boasts. I go to travel as if you want to find out what they do, but go to their website. And I see three things that there's a premium support. There is a book. They sell a book and they are sending out stickers. They're doing a lot of marketing and support for that, and they're, I'm sure they're getting pretty decent money doing that. They're not seeing Mike para money, but they're still seeing money. But again, it comes back to what is a developer wanna do? Do you want to be a support person? Do you want right books? You wanna start a business with this ordeal, just want to continue building, open sourced. And unfortunately, I don't see a lot of ways aside from licensing software or advertising that will let you continue acting as you have always before and still make a decent amount of money back. Yeah, anytime like so this example of going back to Jack's manicure, he just wants to be able to to produce and maintain the open source, not add one more layer which is support or whatever else might take to develop some sort of revenue stream like ee. Don't wanna take the current load plus something right to support it, like he just wants to be able to deliver the great project and sustain it in such a hard nut to crack. It really is. I mean. Mentioned, clicked of, they have their ways so many you I may fit. There may not patron is trying to get into this game as well. You got, you know, you got get coin, which is funding issues, right? Whole different kind of model, but there's all sorts of different ways. You can sort of like wrap this up and there's no easy road. Yeah, everyone has their pros and cons, and some of you have to find out which one fits you? Nutty Egbahl has a really good, really good. Read me get hub called the lemonade stand. I refer to it often and there. If you are interested in funding open source, that's a great place to start. You'll see all the pros and cons of all these different ways of doing it. I think the biggest thing that developers I would like developers to know is that it's okay to get paid for open source. It's you're not. It's not something that you have to give away and it means a less if you get paid, it is okay to get paid. The question is what avenues data go to get paid and what options are there out there. So I strongly urge anybody who's interested in this not only the check out code fund, but also to go around and like, look at the different ways that you can do it. There's so many different ways to generate funding for your open source. It just what fits your personality. The best. So I have some pretty awesome news share. We are now partner with goalie if you've never searched hacker news piece spring, medium, twitch, or even product hunt than you experience the results of Galil search API and expend or content. We knew that one day would have to either roller on search, Lucien of post press. We can partner with I'll. Yeah, and I'm happy to report the phase one of our search is now Powerball. Goalie able to fine-tune are indexing gain insights from search patterns in analytics. We can create custom career roles to influence ranking behavior as well as improve our search experienced by adding synonyms and alternative corrections queries. Sure. We build search ourselves, but that would mean we would be busy doing that instead of shipping shows like listen to right now. Thanks for friends at goalie for working with us ten shots for linked to get started for free or learn more by heading to ugly dot com. The the funding model for open source, Eric is is a moving target, right? Like since day one, which is just a portion of the journey of trying to sustainable source like your day. One was a year ago, at least with this project to try to find some sort of sustainable way to help develop. There's find a consistent revenue stream that can help them just do one thing which is produced and support and sustain their current project, not at other layers to fund revenue malls. That's a moving target. Would you say? Absolutely. It's it's unfortunate about the scenario with ghetto, but as you've mentioned, Tilly. Understandable. I look at some of the past and some of the directions you've taken an undisclosed curious. There's some laid out in this latest post from you, which is, you know, greatly put whatever earned over the past year funding open source and you kind of outline various things. You've done lessons, learned, mistakes. What our core lessons learned for you in this process that is either not post there or not yet that you can share a think mentioning the ones on the post I, I wrote this when I was very much deepen. Reminiscing about the past year. Don't even realize it's been a year and all of a sudden somebody on Facebook or somebody on Lincoln's at, hey, congrats on one year. Oh my gosh. It's been a year. So to touch on these, I think the most important to me. So when I started the business off and over the over the past over the past year, I think one of the things that I'm most proud of is is the honesty. The honesty that I've been able to approach now, digital advertising is kind of messy, dirty, yucky thing. It can be and advertisers that I've talked to over the past where I basically open up my data. And I say, here you could see exactly what we're doing. This is my overall click through rate here are all of my publishers and I'm working with, here's how much money we've made his company this month. And this is how much money were giving back to developers and and all this stuff I've been so so open and honest with them. And I think that's that's paid off a lot. Don't do it to pay it off, but. I don't. I'm not. I'm not a good poker player. I and I'm a developer. So things you know, lodge logic. Logically, in my mind, if I'm open and honest with them, then they will appreciate it and work with me or they will say, okay, thank you for being open and honest, you've given me enough information to know that this won't work for me, but I think if you in the future, never is anybody said, oh, they're so open and honest. I'm going to take advantage of this and and see if I can. You know I- whatever it might be and that's, that's something that I've just been really proud of. I continue to be proud of. In in in all openness on staff posted what our earnings was for last month July. We had two point four million impressions, average clicks rate, a point, three, three percent. We had seventy two hundred dollars come in the door and forty. Four hundred dollars went right back out to developers so we we may twenty one hundred dollars in profit. Again, we're far far far from being able to support myself and the developer. The works for me works with me, but we're in the right direction and we're making a difference. So far in a whole code fund has generated over thirty six thousand dollars for open source. We I have literally been able to pay out thirty six thousand dollars over the last year to developers all over the world. And that is just such such an amazing feeling for me and the best part is like I know I'm just the very beginning. It's going to grow. When it's going to grow and it's gonna grow heart of, I think part of the reason why I was able to to be able to pivot and not topple is because of the mission. I look at some companies, missions and their mission is to make revenue, or I want everybody to use this brand of soap or whatever. And that stuff to to me is not very important, but having a mission that actually has true meaning such as how can we help fund open source? How can we help get money to people in as long as that is that is the the raw that I hold onto that is the goal posts that I'm aiming at. It's really easy to make decisions. And every decision that I've had to make like, well, how's this gonna? Help open source, but is okay, great. If not definitely not going to do it. What's good to have that as checker to your final litmus test is, you know, like you say in this post and we have a similar one. Like does it enrich the lives of developers like that's our mission as we decide to sponsors or produce new shows or go to conferences or just in any way change or or redesign house in the works. We ask ourselves that question which is doesn't enrich the lives of developers. And your question is similar, but does it help fund open source and if it doesn't don't do it. Yeah. And I might have to to append to that too because I should say, does it ethically help fund up source? I like that because you know, I'm sure that you had people come to you and say, hey, Adam, I, I love your podcast. I'd love to sponsor it. Will you sponsor it? And they're no XYZ. See company that has nothing to do with advertisers at all. We've had two. We've had to say no to some some people, for sure people who will come to us and say, well, we'll sponsor your show if we can get somebody on the show or something like that, and it was like, that's just not how we operate right as we don't do that. We don't pay to play all of the, you know, all of the continent. Our shows is native content like we sought it out or were truly interested in the story is not because somebody pays us to be on here. Our sponsors are different. That's the point and we do a great job of sharing their message and understanding their brand story in caring how we should help them communicate their message developers audience. That's part of what we do. That's our value add, but those are paid content is not. And on that note, I gotta say, I don't. I don't know who the sponsors are for this Pacific podcast, but one of them roll bar. Thank you. I personally think each and every one of those sponsors for this podcast being recorded right now. I appreciate it. You guys are the reason this can happen. Thank you. So so back to ethics. The last thing that I pointed out and that really has kind of been a part of who I've been in what code code fund has been since day. One cut sponsor is ethical. And what I mean by that is we saw a big fan of Eric culture. Yeah, and he he's, of course, the genius behind read the dogs. He and I had a conversation with him early early early on back in July. I had this idea. I wanted to run it by him. He was kind enough to talk to me about it. He he gave me some great advice, but at the end of the day, I was able to take what he created, which is ethical advertising, apply it to to advertise across the board. And so that includes no tracking, no cookies. We don't do any remarketing and we don't sell data. We don't do profiling and all of our ads are are on topic. All of our ads are relevant to the audience and we don't. All of our ads are unobtrusive. They're not in your face very subtle there, but they're. Beautiful and not, you know, they're, they're good. They should be something that you that's not distracting when you're when you're doing a site. And then finally in February, I decided that if we're really going to, if we really are gonna be who we say we are, we got to open source and actually got a credit to you and to Jared. You guys. I didn't realize we've talked off and on over the past year, but I didn't realize early on that you had that all of your software is open source, and I thought, wow, that's, that's awesome. Yeah. So I, I took your advice, I followed your lead and I open sourced at all. Now. I- Jared, and I went back and forth little bit because I might have open source it and copied some verbiage that Jared wrote. He said, don't do that. But. I've since corrected, but no, nothing but respect for you guys. And I think it led me to make a really good choice by open sourcing are our stuff. But the best part is that you know the whole blockchain thing talks about trust less where you don't need people advertising so dirty. But when you say our whole advertising platform is open source and these are claims and you can go verify, it becomes a lot easier to trust or not in required trust on that. Yeah, let's it's easy you know to to get out of the box because there's certain stigmas that are that are squashed out the box by saying, you know, we fall these patterns or quotas up and sores. These are guidelines, whatever they might be in. Oh, you credit us on the open sourcing part. We just put the baton up and hope people follow us and we're falling others to like we're just leading leaders phone the followers because I think it's the way to go. We dreamt of being able to when we we. The built the CMS that now powers change dot com. Our dream was to be able to make sure it was open source because we felt like, gosh, we've been covering open sources, two thousand nine like open source moves fast. We're just trying to keep up and help everybody to. And we could not in any way, go beyond tumbler were press, which was our first few platforms and build our own and not make it up and source because it wasn't about feeling competitors that it was about. Kim, we start a conversation in came. We establish trust came, we invite a community in. There's so many benefits that we see because of it. And if we kept it close source where we be, what would that would that be like at silly? So. So, yeah, so ethical advertising is certainly an interesting perspective. It's been the DNA of you since the beginning. Right? Something else you said they're just kind of glossed over a little bit. Was you've been unapologetically focused on the mission? Yeah. And you kind of go into to some some details there. Specifically, you know with that Michigan minded means that if the game changes you're willing to change with it, like you mentioned earlier being the pivot, not topple if you say here in in in bowl, the mission, not the product is our lighthouse, and that means that if for some reason the way you generate funding source developers in the future changes from an advertising platform to something else you're willing to follow. Is that right? Yeah, not only willing to follow it. I think I'd be willing to follow it gleefully. Nobody likes ads. I don't like cats us. Developers were the ones writing adblocker. So I get that. It's not the ideal solution, and I know there are bunch of different solutions. But right now that to me is the most effective way to bring funding to open source where everybody's happy for the most part, if that changes and something comes out, that will will make a better impact more of them. Yeah, we'll we'll be on top of that. I'm a big fan of the brave browser and the basic attention token, I think that's wonderful. I'm a big fan of the the deco network which is fighting to make it possible for for developers to easily license their software. I'm a huge fan of tied lift who is focusing really hard on providing an ongoing salary towards maintainers and building up a maintainers pool. So there's a whole bunch of efforts going on. That's all solving the. Same problem. We're on the same team. We might be doing different tactics tactics to to make it happen, but we're all on the same team and that's really comforting to know that. I think what's interesting too, is that because the overarching theme of this is obviously diving deep into your story, but it's, you know, how do we fund open source in fun? What? What are the ways you can? And and I think what I've learned to this conversation is that there's just not way right. And there's there's many, many ways as you mentioned that you and your relationship and your friendship with Pia is not predicated on your the, the competitive conflict that your businesses your for profit or your, you know your missions with your businesses have like because of that there isn't a change in your relationship in like you still can be friendly. You can still have respect for one other and there's many many ways to solve the problem of funding open source. Yeah. I guess what was a little unclear to me and maybe still. Clear is cow code fund sits inside of get coin or consensus. Does it operate? Because you've said you in a developer in we a couple times, and I'm trying to track how that applies and pay us. Is it a Thomas? Is a by itself? Is a party get coin? It's is it a sub product? You know how, how? What is the state of code fund right now as it pertains to get coin or even consensus at large. So legally could fund does not exist as an entity as a legal entity. Anymore code fund is literally a product one of many products by get coin worship going through a little bit of a branding crisis without right now, we're trying to figure out what that means. So your confusion, actually my confusion as well knife. Okay. We talked to Kevin right on the chains lug as well. You know, when we first heard to get clean, we thought was actually a coin in a little while to travel the say, okay, so this is about, you know, funding issues through crypto currencies because consensus is essentially very bullish on the crypto currency markets, you know, specifically theorem, right, right. So code fund is this weird. This weird thing that just showed up in this consensus mesh that has absolutely nothing to do with blockchain. And I've, I've often asked myself, why am I here? What are we doing here? Because it doesn't make any sense as far as promoting blockchain or making that building that economy or ecosystem. However, as as time goes on, finding that code fun actually fits in really well with it because it's a built-in tool for promoting and advertising internal other other spokes, what they call within within consensus, but also it it. It will open up opportunities for developers who don't know anything about blockchain of element to start getting involved. And so some of our ads were running right now are introducing people very, very slightly into like, hey, are you interested in blockchain development? Are you interested in learning this. Come here, they're, they're wanting help. They're they're wanting to get people involved. So there is some mixed there, but yet it it is a little bit of a weird thing where hopefully going to have an answer for that question later this year. Right now. To really like TLD are at code fund is literally just a product of get coin and get coin, has a bounty product, and that's what get Quinn is known for as their bounties product. And code fund is the is the ad slash revenue arm of get coin as always curious about how to play out because I can see how they interconnect, and I was very happy for you when I heard about this announcement. But at the same time I was like, so is it by itself? Is it is sub product? Like how does it fit in? And I wasn't really sure, but I'm a huge finicky coin as well. Like I think the the interesting way you fund issues through bounties, especially bounties funded by cryptocurrencies is really an interesting process because I mean, this is sky's the limit, you know, but you know, you've got this whole web three. You've got these hurdles and, and I've heard Kevin say we're in for the long haul. You know, this is not, you know, next year or the year after. Her trying to solve this problem. So the long tails what you are focusing on? I think it does make sense. You know, in the short term could fund. Oddly fits, but in a long tail it very tightly fits if I have my vision on correctly for what you're doing, I think you're right. I think you're exactly right. Close. What I like asking this one. I didn't prepare you for it. So if if for some reason you don't got the fort. No worries. I got a backup, but you know what's something that super-secret for you. Forget coin for code fund for consensus with something that super-secret that not many or no one knows about that. You can tease or share your on the show today. Not imagine it. One of the things that we did. I think integrations is going to be a huge part of the future of code fund. And the reason I say that is because developers don't want to this far as I've seen developers, I wanted to go and like go over here and set this up copy over here. Injector script here in all this stuff just to be able to get paid. The direction that I would like to take code fund is more of a an API driven platform that other applications can integrate into an provide ethical advertising for their users. So for example, later this year we will be doing a full native integration with code sandbox that I owe. Uh-huh. What that means is on cut sandbox, you'll be able to click on your preferences. Click on integrations, click on code fund, and then it'll set you up an account automatically. And then you can optionally add an ethical add to your shares, whether it be on your website or your embeds, and then you as the developer, we'll get paid for those. We have another integration coming and November, and so this is being put together by our good friends over at nuts. J s. Sebastian, and Alex Chilton to genius brothers created Knox, and they are back when I started announcing that there were issues with get hub. I think in December Sebastian, and his brother decided, I think that we can help, Eric. I think we can help coat sponsor by creating away for a by creating away for for actual repos to get funding. So right now, that's the biggest problem. I can't fund repos directly because unless that repo has a website, it can't happen. So in the next few months, they're launching a tool that will integrate directly with get get hub, and it should allow near should allow. For us to be able to help a lot more people very quickly. Integrations is an interesting perspective Khotan box. Our code sandboxes actually. If that works out, you've got to prove model to easily go to the code pens or anywhere else where people are sharing their code and you're giving the individuals who are actually sharing examples of moving the needle of change in or how things are done. Right? You know this really interesting potentially in glitch or other commodities sites that essentially say, here's my stuff, and if it gets enough eyeballs you give that person ability to to integrate ethical advertising. I think Bry you really gotta go back to Eric ocher and buy some dinner or take him out on vacation at someone or something because that's the that's the with that is the underlying DNA. It's going to be very difficult to to question you. You know what I mean? Yeah. Motives. Yeah. And yeah. And since they like I'm a developer, I I, I make good enough money, you know, quote, unquote, good noth- money. I'm, I'm a, I'm a privileged white male living in a rich town and. Utah. I I, that I'm privileged. I'm not doing this for the money. I just want to make a difference and help people, and I want to remove the eye out of the whole thing and eventually make this to be something that belongs to the community. It because I think that's really the adoption. The adoption of code fund or any solution that that's gonna come about has to be adopted. The only way I think a will be adopted is if it is completely open, an ethical and and and maintain that way. Where it's been fun going through your story. There's definitely there's parts I knew parts. I didn't know part. I was really curious about in in a I'm just left with one a ton of respect and excitement for your future. The work you're doing with bitcoin and consensus and particularly upping open source developers, find ways to sustainably get funding for their work that doesn't require them to do tons of change or change at all, really to how they're doing day to day work. And that's, that's just an amazing mission. So any any final thoughts or closing advice you shared before we close out? Manley my appreciation for the community. Once I started entering this world of of funding open source and helping find solutions. I've, I've found so many amazing people and so many so many. So many amazing efforts towards towards this goal. I guess one thing I should share and I'm not sure when this will be released, but in October, we are going to be at the sustain summit in October. And that is a one day event that where a bunch of people will be there to discuss how to help continue sustaining open source, and if you can make it, I hope you make it if you can't. I hope you follow up. They're currently looking for sponsorship right now as well. So there's a sponsor page there. And if you're there, I look forward to seeing you also I will be at get hub universe. We are sponsoring again. Back in the door. They let let me back in the door of nice under the name Git coin, so get coin as sponsor. And yet we will be there and code fund will be very well represented represented, come get your t-shirts, swag, and. If you if you want to hear any more details come talk. It certainly leads into the focused on the mission like you, you'll keep knocking to do. I like that. That's right. Resiliency as best you mentioned sustained sustain, assess dot org. Love Pia in everybody else involved in that conference. We won't be able to not sure we're gonna be able to make it there this year being in Linda's little harder for us, but we, we don't have plans yet, but we had an idea that we haven't begin excuse on for us to send one person. So you might even see us there but now. So that's where we met last year where we met. That's right. But Eric, thank you so much your mission. I appreciate it. Stay in touch. We love you here. We can't can't think enough for this mission and it was so much fun to on the show. Thank you. Thank you. Hyper shit. All right. 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AP Radio - Chiefs stand pat at trade deadline

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AP Radio - Chiefs stand pat at trade deadline

"Arrowhead pride radio on six ten sports radio. Here your hosts editor in chief at Arrowhead pride dot com. Pete Sweeney and former chiefs linebacker Shawn barber yet here, the drums, and you know, what that means. It's time for your favorite hour of the week. And that's our head pride radio. I'm peach Sweeney editor in chief of our pride dot com across from Sean Barbara player and behind the glass, we have dusty the American dream like. On a day a trade deadline. We thought might be exciting for the chiefs. Maybe just maybe that they would make a move. They did not. We'll get to that. In just seconds before. We do Sean. Tell me some good tell you some good. I know this is the best our radio because I'll ask all six kids. My wife, Emma, mom and dad, I send them that's nine votes. How many said that this is the best our radian? We know right now undefeated bet. We better better than the Rams betted into Rams good to know good to know going. So let's get into trade deadline. I wanna go move by move of the big ones only the big ones. And just look at it. If if it works for chief's perspective, if not we'll just we'll just decide if we like it for giving team. I think the first big move of the day was golden Tate being traded from the lions to the Philadelphia Eagles for third round pick. This was not a move the chiefs forever gonna make. But do we like it for the eagles? I love it for the eagles. Listen to some of the comments by Matt how he Roseman he made a clank plain and simple said right now is one model women tally up in novacare eagles practice. All little known fact, all the time they put us on the gas all the time they are trying to win the Super Bowl every year not rebuild. Not full moment. Did is retooling they're gonna give Carson Wentz. The as many opportunities to win a Super Bowl in the first five years of his career as possible. So I like it. I think that show on Jeffrey's even though he is a great receiver. He does get winded. The times he doesn't denting. He runs routes full speed all the time, and you get this little hummingbird goes around the field. Like my man golden and tape, man. He's everywhere. He he's awesome wire receiver he's able to do everything. So the tweet from Golden Gate with the rocky hands the Jif of in front of the Philadelphia steps what his hands up. He's excited to go to Philadelphia. Now, the move we saw today kind of do a little bit with the chiefs really the Broncos. I think waving the white flag sent into Maria's Thomas to the Texans for fourth round pick the team. Swap two thousand and seventh rounders this wasn't a move the chiefs. We're gonna make this wasn't the Broncos would ever make send Maria's Thomas to the chiefs. Do we like it for the Texans? And how about the Broncos giving up on d do like it for the Texans with the injury come into the young pillar full of being out for the season dementia? Dimitrius? We got the matrix on the show, Mr.. Married. A texan. Now is now a Texan. I think he feels that role perfectly in he's got a, you know, he's at a point in his career where he's able to kind of sit down, and they can feel each other out over the next eight games and figure out is that something they wanna commit long-term to add think he will be a perfect complement to my man, d hop who was one of the top three or four best y receives in the league this year. So the mayor's Thomas is thumbs up thumbs up player for the Houston. Texans. I think right now number one in the AFC south this makes Texans a little bit more interesting. They were Owen three. Now, they're five and three they're five. And now in the last five weeks, I think it's interesting for DT DT goes from being Bronco flies to Houston prepares for the Broncos and flies back to mile high to plan the opposing team, the Broncos are planning to honor him. I was saying they need to make a little bit of a special at that Mike up for the week. And and see see what that'd be like, I doubt that happens. Knowing everything that's surrounding the NFL and how hard that is to accomplish being on the inside. Running back and wide receiver time on Gumri fumbles away his Packers career on Sunday. He goes to the ravens for beg- abates, seventh round pick in twenty twenty. I think we just skip this do you have any quick comment about time? I do because I think the important part about this is I think the special teams coach toll him not to return it. I think that's the news tyreek hill or not not even tire. It'd be like Danny Thomas saying, you know, what uncle Dave. You can go screw yourself. I'm bringing his ball. I don't. I think y'all trying to get rid of me. I'm here in trae rumors about touched the ball. I'm coming out. So I I mean, I kind of blamed especially in Coachman that put them back from him back. Have you noticed a little disgruntle man, put anybody who you can trust lack of trust? That's a whole nother story. Here's where it gets interesting. This your chief's fan, and you really wanted them to make a move today. Hope you're sitting down if you're driving maybe you should pull over safety. Ha ha Clinton Dix. No laughing matter Sean traded from Green Bay Packers to the Washington Redskins. Go help Alex Smith for a two thousand nineteen fourth round pick PF tweeted out right away, the top two safeties in the league. And there is our swagger and Clinton Dix. They're both on the Redskins. A lot of chiefs fans. I think will say well, why not do this two reasons right off the bat. Chiefs don't have a twenty nineteen fourth rounder because of that Reggie Ragland deal. So they would have to figure it out, and advocate that as far as values and a second reason I turned to Yahoo sports to rest pallor. Who was on the drive to two six earlier today. We just run with those guys about why Earl Thomas a few weeks ago was move and not Clinton Dix. Earl Thomas, of course, going down with the broken leg. So that went away. Here's why Tarez paler says Earl Thomas was move not Clinton Dix in the reason. That was the perfect movie was because he was a compliment air berry duplication skills, which is ha is now you can say, hey, have to very great. Yeah. But the one that before pick number two to outbid we have to surrender like third, Mike. This is a great sense of graft. And again this scheme for the high safety that's more of a position about cover and like erasing the deep ball and like playing single high like that's a cover player. That's Earl Thomas. You're going to get you know, not really that guy. You know box guy. You know, he's a guy like Eric. And guess what you got another block spot box coming back and gang Sorenson. That's three bucks. Guys. Enjoy that fun. You know, not trade for ha-had Clinton ditches, the, right, Sean, you agree. No. I'm cutting Blinken simple with it. Like, I don't think I think most people think like corners corners safeties safeties free. Can't be strong a cover corna can't be a deep zone. They're all Xs and os, you need five or six Xs and os back there in the secondary to cover different areas that feel they all have to be good players. They all have to be solid football players. If you give me two Eric berries out on the field. I guarantee you the defense will be if you give me two Dion. If you can meet two of anything is good has anyone thought of maybe just clone? These guys closets. You get your new Eric berry over there, the -sition as far as the defenses are right now is just not as Bonilla as it used to be where the same guy always played the deep in the same guy always rolled into the box. I think back when you know when I play for the rare skin that was a defense Brian Dawkins. Was the box safety. He was the guy the heavy hitter the blizzard, and then they let any other safety. Join the team be the the free to play the deep side and stuff like that. But I think the way defenses have start going down. Bob sends defense you have to be able to do both. You gotta be able to rock and roll to safeties with the mount of shifts emotions if you always bring in the same down, and they can tell which defense you're in because you're always bringing your strong safety to five yards off the box or two yards outside the hash anything like that tells the quarterback a little tip tip about what defender in you're doing yourself a disservice. So it's just ELS. Everybody has to play and play almost every position. So in your eyes. A world of Daniel Sorensen who I expect either this week or next week Eric berry who the chiefs expect back. I don't want to say I expect back because I have no idea what's going on with that situation and Clinton Dix would have worked out. So maybe you you you send Jordan Lucas packing. Then you have that package Eric Murray, and maybe Ron Parker still in the team, and that could have worked you think for the chiefs and that could have been a better defense than they have. Now, I like Lucas, I wouldn't have Lucas who's that odd man out you tell me, and you you mentioned it has to be it have to be Ron Barker or an Eric Murray at that point. I know after this week a lot of people become for park. You said in that me. They saying I tend to agree that I think you bring on the town if you don't feel you have that. I think the chiefs would they we've been kind of repeating it all weekend and so on and so forth. You probably heard quite a bit on this radio station earlier today. I just think they believe that Eric berry is their midseason acquisition. That's why they weren't willing to give away that future capital. I wanna move onto the final big move of the day though, Sean and that was for defensive end Dante valor junior traded from the Jacksonville Jaguars to the Los Angeles Rams for a two thousand and nineteen third rounder H one twenty fifth round pick richest deal when it came to draft picks today. What did you make this move man, Dante fell as the beast? He's a guy that it covers a lot of ground. He's intense hitter. He's impact player pass run plays all day owns. I mean, just just a very high level elite linebacker league right now with a moment hitman fit five three going out with the ribs. You could see that being. A a position of need. But we got some young guys. Thank our scouts have done. A great job of acquiring, man. Been neiman? Hawkeye? Have not him in there and getting in the mix. DOD good. You mentioned these guys because I think you may see him this week. The reports had said that Anthony Hitchens may miss a few weeks with severely bruised ribs, Android, kind of refuted that I think we'll get more clarity tomorrow. I I'd say if you don't see Hitchens practicing tomorrow, you'll get a big dose of Benin on Sunday. But go ahead. When you play the linebacker position. If you can't take a full breath without your ribs hurting is going to be it's going to limit the the title intensity. Did you hit another man with? So if hit hit me, and I don't want him out. I want I want I want to wait until he's able to go full speed doesn't doesn't sound like. Yeah. Then sound like he's gonna be ready. So I expect double article idea man DOD Lagos saying Doyle Daniels. They have a good like, you know, like your coach more exonerating a package of things that he does very well speaking about let him do his thing about I don't have a problem with having three safeties and three DB's going. You know, six guys in the secondary fab guys up front and just let Pegues roll all game. In just continued to force to offense to do. What you want him to? Do you go? Go nickel dime. You go packages enforce them to run the ball and us come down hill land that they'll people the thing that I like about the Rams go and get fouled. They didn't necessarily need them. You know, and everyone in Kansas City or not. Everybody. But a lot of people have defended the chiefs not moving here will say, well, you know, what they're seven and one we'll guess what the Rams are eight zero. And they just went to get a top five pick because they feel like there was a neat. I like the attitude of the Los Angeles Rams going and getting Dante Fowler. And to me, they're showing, you know, we know we have a SuperBowl window here. We know the NFL is wide open this year. We don't know who's gonna win the Super Bowl. Let's go and get it. The Rams doubled down by getting pet and then going into leave. Then they triple down getting sue when they are ahead Aaron Donald now, they didn't put all their chips in on Dante. So this year is over what are they going to do? It's like the top player in your fantasy league picking on the dumb guy twelve. It's exactly what happened today when we come back. Landon Collins value was released via Twitter, we'll get into Landon Collins and the other piece of this will dig a little bit deeper into Eric berry. That's all next. Errol had pride radio. Harahan pride radio editor in chief verified dot com. Pete Sweeney sitting across from the linebacker, Shawn. Barber bringing Phil Semak win. Jay Bingley big at night takes over. I'm sure he'll have plenty to say about the lack of moves at the trade deadline for the chiefs one player that was available that we didn't see go was a player. We had talked about think it was on showing Vern on Friday, Sean. And that was Landon Collins of the New York Giants this from Ralph Vecchione, oh, S and wine. New York on Collins giants were asking a little bit too much for me. So teams just kind of backed off Collins had heard the giants wanted a first or second round pick in two thousand nineteen plus take next year. Is that too rich for you for Landon Collins? I just wanted to make you know, this is talk about this. When when your team and your seventy one eight zero. Oh of you. You're one of the top teams in the league. I consider that a team should be trading from a position of power and leverage. You don't you? Don't let teams demand you what you pay for like, I'm good. We we headed for the playoffs. We don't we don't need this obviously our team's going to win without him. Now know your team, which is headed for ruins. And the guy probably will not resign. What you anyway, I'm doing you favor by getting this guy and give you a couple of trade draft pick. So I wanna give you a third or fourth traffic for this guy. And you're demanding I in the second. I we play a game of chicken in the time runs out, and you go ahead and ham for the rest of the year. And I'll get them next year something I mean, I I think that's what I when I go back to Fowler trade. I just think the Rams really gave up way too much for him because they undefeated they they didn't need this unless they win the Super Bowl. Then there's no price. You know what I mean? I know it's hindsight and you can't determine that. But if they go and win the championship this year, every move you made it you could've traded three first round picks have been see. I don't agree with it. Because what I'm saying is that I think that the Rams are good enough to be in the Super Bowl right now. I think she's a good enough to be in suppo. So even without making any moves what you're doing is trading and wait to future for something that you think is going to bring you present day success when you might already got it team. I already good enough to go win. You can't say that about this chiefs defense, I'm say that twenty first in points is about points talked me about no yardage one. Hey about those. I don't wanna hear about anything except for the points on that scoreboard. Twenty first ranked twenty first. Chiefs though. And you've you've seen the defense. I mean, it was bad at the beginning of the year. They've admitted that the tackling was bad, but you've seen the past few weeks. It's been good performances against the Jags. And the Bengals I thought you had a passable performance against the Broncos. You're thinking about the future on deadline day. If they I mean, I think the chiefs must've thought where a player away in that players Eric berry what they had to have thought. That could that could have been in somebody's mind. I think it just comes down to if you like the guys in the locker room while you're gonna mess with the chemistry. I like the guys I'm going to work with the Gaza coaching up. I like the guys that I see take the feel and where are chief uniforms and go play hard as they can to get us to the point. We all right now. Why do I want to bring in a Jacksonville Jaguars Dante Fowler who off? How do I want to bring in anybody to commence up the chemistry? We already have for what it's worth. Andy Reid is said since the beginning of this these guys play together, and they've stuck with that. They didn't go and get somebody. The disconnect for me though, Sean is two three weeks ago. Whatever was a month ago, you were ready to go. You're ready to go and get somebody. And then these performances over the past few weeks change that in your mind or was it a phantom Eric report that okay, he's going to be reading a few weeks? I mean, we don't really know what it was. But what changed from when you're ready to go and get Earl Thomas today? I didn't want Earl Thomas, so your price. They wanted second round pick. I didn't want. No, I say I will give you threes and fours to get rid of to give it some some depreciate values depreciate athletes doing later. Anyway, let them do and you see the Seahawks and turn things around. Now they start running body play a little defense. There aren't they doing? I right now. So you know, them getting rid of Earl Thomas a little bit of a dish. Subtraction. Maybe the team actually got better starts tonight and realize without Earl Earl Thomas, and all his everything me me me me. Shaken hands. But how you but I am not ready on this program on a nice day on a Tuesday night to go down. The addition by subtraction road dish achieves fat program. John the elephant in the room talking about it tonight. Clark hunt spoke to the media yesterday. And speaking of Eric berry, I was wondering you know, what have we heard from the chiefs is Eric berries literally day to day. He's he's literally day-to-day. So I said, you know, what I'm gonna go ask the owner. What is your interpretation of this because we haven't gotten anything literally day to day, sir? It's been seventy nine days. Well, it's no different than what you heard from Andy or Rick burkholder literally as day to I do know that nobody's working harder rehab, the New York or young man who loves the game of a ball in wants to be out there on the field. And as soon as he feels he's ready. He's gonna be out there. Literally day to day today literally is day to day. Don't be playing audio chicks and stuff. Let them say he said he says day-to-day Andy's leave the word literally today. Literally no-no doesn't mean just been data day. It's been literally day to day. It's been the longest day to day stretch in the history of the NFL. It has to be and literally is is on the index card. That's handed to these guys. When I go to the podium and has now become obvious to me. I'm a man of good faith, man. This figure betterman than me out pray. The Loa tells me sums gonna happen in my life and faith when I don't worry about which is gonna come note that blessings come. So if the cheese kingdom feels like in their future, Eric berry. The two nine is gonna hit that feel again, then don't worry about what day is going to be when you gonna receive that package. There's no is going to be own time. When is necessary win is needed for him to hit the feel and I suggest the chiefs contact Guinness Book of world records. Uh-huh. Because we think that one four two point two decibels can't be broken. You let you let the fan base. No to Eric berry gonna touch the field. I thought you were about to say that you wanna know if we're breaking the day to day record of the amount of time miss being day-to-day because I think we have to be over it. I'm not worried about the day. I'm gonna go to lunch tomorrow dated for the eightieth day in a row of day to day maybe Clark on whether he expects berry to touch the field. You know, I really don't have an expectation. That's a decision that Eric along with our medical staff going to have to make and I don't want to step in front of that. Uh-huh. Speak. He spoke the truth misuse. No. He's been forever since you've been gone you here. No disappointment in Quantico, hunt's voice. You know, why? Because he said, so I have no expectation he doesn't he's he's not. He's not expecting it to be next week next month. He didn't win it's time in when he's ready. Eric berry will return to aero hare stadium. And that's why he that's all he all he needs to hang his hat on at like that man speaks truth literally is day to day. It would be a good time for him to return. I think in time for the Los Angeles Rams game. Because if there's ever a team that you're going to need him the beet especially given the fact that they now have Fowler. Add to that mix. His well, it's against the Los Angeles Rams in medical you only need to be playing your best on February whatever date, and that's true. So so if Eric berry wants to come come back on on on January thirty first put a couple. Practices. Get ready for the Super Bowl. I'm cool with that whenever he is reading the same thing where whenever these guys are ready to play at seven in one. I can wait is different. When you too in five in the season about to go down drain you need guys come energize your team. So you so you might be able to get back in claw your way into a while caught right now, we have the best record in AFC home field advantage to speak on it. I'm expecting that to stay the same all through the rest of the season. But the second half of the season. So is Owen. Oh, right now, we own Browns is Owen. Oh, right now just want us to get to that second. Let's turn the page. Put all that in the back everything trade airlines over nobody no additions. So we ain't got whereby. 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Message and data rates may apply to your next chance to win is tomorrow at seven thirty A M with fess go in the morning, and it is officially hot take Tuesday, which I love you like some hot take show. I'm texting float right now. Hold on. Yeah. Text that in any. We'll split the bucks and get some lunch tomorrow you in may celebrating the eightieth. Day to day of Eric varies creek race to on NFL network was asked what's more impressive? The Kareem hunt hurdle or Todd girlies presence of mind. Not to score touchdown leading to a Rams win cream. Hurdle is a platelet. You're like, wow, that's crazy jumped high. But we talk about the by Q at an to win a game as JJ we're talking about to win a game. And have the the wherewithal demise today. Okay. I go in here and score. It had been dampened up by nine. It's still gonna win the game. But to take a knee and not put are back on the field. That's what makes us play special. Literally. I got it. I got enough. I'm a slowdown. I'm a mess around a little bit. Then get down the ground. Protect the ball. That to me is what wins you championship when you could do something like this. And they talked about it after the game saying master situational masters be masters of the situation that to me is is identical. Whatever football player should do. In those type of situation Reese Jones, drew. Oh, what are you talking about me? He must. He has said he's a fantasy guru ain't nobody in fantasy won't talk to take a knee when you down by five points, and you need six points to beat your opponent. You yelling at the screen, though on screen on remote? Wondering why your number one overall pick Todd T G thirty going at touchdown. So luckily, I was up about thirty one on my fantasy league with my boys at home in Richmond Virginia. But I don't know if MAURICE realizes this. But Karim is still in the air. We haven't seen in touch the ground yet from from the hurdle at our stadium. Max Kellerman on ESPN's, I take whether or not the chiefs have now a clear path to make it to the Super Bowl. No. It's not just the patriots. You got to look at the chargers. The chiefs are going to get better defensively, I think because they have some athletes on defensive had some injuries and they're getting better as a season goes on right now. The chiefs are first offense efficiency twenty defensive and I expect that to improve. But the Los Angeles chargers Angeles. Third in offense efficiency third and offense efficiency and seventeenth in defensive efficiency. And they don't have both the yet if you're in the chargers, and they don't have Bosa yet. Oh my goodness. Mets this team. Charges like eight times in a row. Wow. Who is what you mean? That's the that's the road book pebble? Get that pebble out. A little known fact about the chargers you're saying eighty times row, I believe the last time the chargers the chiefs Mr. chase. Daniel was quarterback come on come on Mexico. He should've came better than I mean. Everybody knows two man race in the AFC is us and the patriots. And basically whoever has the ball last wins. The no fear from you on the Texans. Texans. Come on just look there. Hot. Last hot take for hot take Tuesday Daniel, Jeremiah I've NFL network on the chiefs defense gaining confidence. Now, we're starting to see this. Chiefs defense though with deformed coming off the edge with Jones coming inside create some havoc getting some turnovers. Ferret berry come back. Oh, that would be huge. But I'm gaining confidence as the season goes along de Ford expecting the right time to have a big year. He's gonna get some big money next year. Sean you work with these guys during training camp. You think this chiefs defense is finally coming around here Daniel, Jeremiah, I got a gist right now, should quote, some very Maya something would him. But. Radio. I'm feeling the positive Bob certificate is flowing through the roof is flowing through the stadium. All the guys on defense feeling that they're feeling what Bob is they feeling what he's putting down picking up. He's putting down. Bouncer tippety is got everybody playing together. It's a it's feared nothing attack everything mentality. It's a mindset it's that defense against the world. They know what they were preseason picked the finish. They know all the doubters thought that if they couldn't do it. It was because the defense wouldn't get it done. And he just got those guys getting closer and closer tighter. And tighter until the end of the season. They gonna be like a fist and that this is going to go right upside Tom Brady tainted and not the patriots out playoffs. Take Tuesday tans with a lecture. By Mr. Barbara a question for you. Where did you buy those rose colored glasses because I think I think I wanna pair? This these rose colored glasses at the same rose colored glasses to solve the page the chiefs and now it's true score. You're about to say thirty five a gain when everybody else laughed and giggled and made me go chuckle who went to Denver and got high. They thought all these other things. But no it was simply going to training camp. In seeing the offense. Go to work seeing the network of mental capacity of quarterback. That's Showtime, my homes when offenses and defenses when when they're going like like you see in training camp. The amount of information. There was his dumped on him to learn. And he picked it up. He kept going. He didn't slow down most most quarterbacks young quarterbacks coach that's enough. Give me one package day. Give me I can't do. All these games situations. He couldn't get enough. He was do you? Remember the matrix. When Nima was getting downloaded. He started. Learning that program Dan, Patrick Mahomes, learning chiefs, offense, he said downloaded baby. Give me on neem. Oh, gimme all you got man. I want the whole matrix in my brain. He got it. All he's he's he's he's tuned in to know. That's what he's thinking. He's ready to roll my man. Pat, Mahomes has taken us all the way to the big game too. Big show. Baby shana. No, you gotta get out of here at six forty. But before we do you weren't on the post game show the other night other duties, what are your thoughts coming away from the Denver game? And then moving forward to Cleveland, I liked what I saw like the chiefs get rid of a divisional folded use the gives them some trouble democrat trying to run the ball trying to set up a, hey, we're going to possess. The you know, we're gonna take gonna take the air out of the ball and for quarter might have worked. But in eventually the chiefs they turn the tide. Trying to come to Arrowhead stadium deal with the Sierra is pretty much too big any offense, including. Tom Brady and the patriots all we have to do is continue to have home field advantage. And I think that's a unlike mex- Keller the mask next Keller mixed Kellerman hit paid room. There is a clear path to the Super Bowl and then comes right down at seventy. Again, the Ciaran will be waiting for who is the most to come and get a loser. A bit of any big raid. Bob Satyen anybody else pot his team. It comes right down seventy. And you gotta come see us at home, baby. The chiefs are ready to roll playoff-bound baby. Former chiefs linebacker Shawn barber are had pride analyst. How can the people follow you on Twitter? Oh, Sean baba fit. If everybody wants to know, you gotta do is. If you wanna piece at a champion, you gotta walk that out. The nature. Boy, you got to showing Barbara drip that Sean. And I'm out Arrowhead prize. Sean bar we go from the former linebacker to our lead film and draft analyst. His name is Ken Swanson. Can't you watch more Patrick Mahomes than anyone else in the city today? You had your something. Good something bad article. Tell us a little bit about something. Good. And then something bad these often Patrick Mahomes this past weekend. Don't make me follow Barbara. Like that. And I have to follow up. We need you to keep the energy of now. Yeah. I don't have that much older. I mean, there was a lot of actually I mean, if you take away the first little hat like the first couple guys trying to gain and you take over take off kind of some of the rest up in the fourth quarter. I mean, he had a fantastic performance. The thing that I liked the most was seen him connect with sandy walking. Yeah. The couple big plays Sammy and Fayette tastic performance between the two one of that. I thought was exception. He hit him on a on a deep in route twenty down the field dry, man. If in the home of working along with Kelsey hill and high fifteen is gonna be terrified there's been some back and forth. I've noticed on chiefs, Twitter and social media. If you're a hardcore chief's fan, you've probably seen it. We've definitely seen it on the air head pride comment sections and even the Twitter responses to the main account, there's a debate going on about whether Sammy Watkins is the real deal where do you fall on this? Nation. Peter, you know, what I I think I think walking is. I think he'd be the veteran fever on in ten fifteen teams league right now. And he's not getting the volume that other guys are not gonna get the ball. And that's okay. His values fell in moments like that moments like Sunday wing. You know, Kareem hunt have huge hurry killed have huge day. Try Kelsey doesn't have a huge day because Sammy Watkins isn't getting enough attention to them. You know, he creates problems where you can't help the field to one guy or it makes it harder to guard, you know, to Nick harder to guard. Tyreek hill in Travis Kelsey when you've got a guy in the backside, and you know, can Wayne route win a match up when a one on one against a good corner until Sammy walk ins for the opportunity been been fantastic. You've been great after the catch. He's he's made some good place. So far any provide provide another player for people to worry about that the office Inco tally is partially due to the representation of what can you walk into office? I'm gonna ask you a hard question here about Watkins because I think a lot of his value comes when he's not touching the football. Do you think that sheeps are seven in one if Sammy Watkins is not on this team? And instead they save that money and give it and keep a DaMarcus Robinson. Chris Conley in the mix. I don't I don't think. So I think part of what creating all these problems. The fact that there's another guy on the field. That is Ethan, you know, EP watch if he watched the one game that that Sammy walking affectively myth that. I in Broncos game. It was it was rough sailing for extended period of time. Pat, home figured it out. But I feel like he's left stretches might be a little bit longer in. Maybe last the whole game. You know, the navy defense is a little bit better. But I mean, I feel like part of the reason that the officers not Mississippi in most instances has been as a result of the of the amount of talent they have in the dropoff Chris Conley and fan you Watkins is the drop off between me and Andrew widely at right guard. Come on. I could see you. I know maybe maybe I don't know. I hang my I can hold my own. Can't you had something? Good and something bad on our head pride dot com today. What do you got as far as Mahomes goes the rest of the week? I've got one of my favorite place to write about all season. Coming up tomorrow. There's a play from patching homes performance yesterday on something smart septic steps. We'll talk about it. It is one of my favorite of the year. And it's not getting enough attention. And then, you know, we'll have the airline pride lavatory tomorrow as well. And in third Patrick Mahomes piece on Thursday lot billing on very quickly before I let you go. What are your quick and dirty trade deadlines? Thoughts of bread VH standing, Pat? I'm okay with it. You know, it would've been nice to try to get a guy like Earl Thomas lane and call you know, obviously Earl didn't work out. But you know, it's gonna be fine. The she's have a ton of drafted for next year. They can load up next year. And they're plenty of upside less net defense, there's nowhere to go. But up, right? So they're on their way up don't shoot. What words much? There's plenty on the team to win. If people would you feel the Basel tippety that maybe a Craig stout defensive film? Analysts feeling right now. Have pity? It might be inside of maybe going to play wrong park over your Luke it, but you still be coming. You got Justin Houston coming. There's plenty of stuff going on. Can't is our lead film and draft analysts. You can catch stuff at Arrowhead pride dot com. Thanks can't. They can also the leader of something we call the arrow head pride nerd squad. And you can hear them every single week on Bank at night. Matt lane who specializes in special projects for us. They dig deep into the film. He'll be on at seven thirty tonight. Talking about a little bit defaulted Craig stout. Eight o'clock on Wednesday nights, and then Kent himself as wraps up Mahomes for the week. He's on at six six thirty on Thursdays. Again. It's Bank at night. He's coming up at seven o'clock. But before we get to Bank. We'll be reading your tweets. Get them in tweet us at Arrowhead pride. I'll read them on the air and give a comment. That's next aero head pride radio. Pride radio. Energy of our pride dot com. Pete Sweeney here still hanging with the American dream dusty like in behind the glass, bringing it to seven o'clock. And that's when Jay Bingley noses football. He'll go on get deep inside those Xs and os. I know have plenty of thoughts about the chiefs lack of moves at the trade deadline, but before we get to Bank. We're going to go ahead. And we're going to read some of your tweets first, one comes from a guy named Andrew Hernandez. I said I'd read it first and see was so polite. Charge. This this essential. Thank you for this. This is really about man. Yeah. I like the chargers fan here. What is different between the red hot chiefs of this year that separates them from the team that fizzled out in the second half of last season. And then in parentheses star if you've already answered this. I'm sure it's a common topic of debate. Good luck in health the season. My God, so polite. I'm not playing first of all. So I appreciate the good luck and health. I think I'll be healthy. Let's say continue eating so poorly. But I answer your question. I think the big difference between this year and last year is a guy named Patrick Mahomes. Last year's offense was built around out Smith and a lot of college concepts. And I think by week five a lot of opposing defenses were able to figure it out Mahomes, at least to this juncture seems a lot better at making judgments even in. What is the second year of career of his career? Alex Smith is has to be a thirteenth or fourteenth year. Not to say announcement is having a bad year in the guy continues to win, of course, putting up. Numbers that you saw that he put up as chief. But that being said, I mean, you gotta handed to them. I do like Alex Smith all he does his win doesn't put up dazzling numbers. But the reason the chiefs have been so good it's been because of Patrick Mahomes. And the only reason we're even talking about whether or not they're making moves to become a Super Bowl team, Patrick Mahomes and his ability to have really become an everyday quarterback in his first real shot at this credit. Andy Reid credits to the offense coaching staff and credit to the kid for taking this. So seriously. Now, we go to some other tweets, Justin writes, in Sutton, wouldn't have started a safety. Orlando Collins overrun Parker Eric Murray. Anyway, so no reason to get upset at Brit VH a worthless defensive coordinator. There's a couple of people in my staff, Craig stout defensive film analysts being one of them who like you. Sure is wondering why Jordan Lucas was benched in the middle of the game last week against the Denver Broncos is something that I intend to ask Bob Sutton, when we get an opportunity to talk to them on Thursday. Bob opting to go with Ron Parker, and Eric Mary, I'm assuming that it had to do a lot with ameliorera too. But again, we'll get the words from the mouth of the most popular guy in Kansas City dozen Bob. Britt Zank wants to know why are people panicking over a non-trade when we are favorites in the AFC and only getting healthier. And I think it's because you saw with other teams did today. I mean, there are other teams that have been okay, I understand that the Houston Texans are going through some issues with a. Wide receiver. But they're they they went into dress. It I think you saw Los Angeles Rams team who's eight and OBI still went out and got another asset to them. You know in Dante Fowler. There's other teams that are right there as well. They're still addressing issues. I think there's been some issues on defense. Chiefs didn't really address. Alex asks why didn't we give up a fourth for Clinton Dix? And it's because the chiefs didn't have to give up first of all we talked about that a little bit earlier they traded that pick at least next year for Reggie Ragland who were Suming his met all the conditions for that conditional pick to begun someone else's Durant. Sherry available. I don't think at this point. That's the guy you want in there. Henry Allen asked did Sean say neem. Oh was the guy from the matrix. I think he did. I think he said neem. Oh, I would bet for that. Yes. Was he thinking of finding nemo? This is a man with six children. What was his nickname for Bob? He was just saying Bob's activity. Bob's. That's it. Yeah. The claim among our had riders is that there's not an of Bob's activity in the city. Okay. Those are your tweets. I appreciate everyone who ended up writing in. Coming up next man who loves the game of football. You wanna hear his thoughts on the trade deadline shaping Bank clean next time? We'll hear you. 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AP Roundtable - Pete and Joel join 610 Sports' The Drive to talk Pats-Chiefs

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AP Roundtable - Pete and Joel join 610 Sports' The Drive to talk Pats-Chiefs

"Back in on the drive. Wouldn't consider this breaking news. But something new name fighting Daniel cornflakes again. No. I don't even wanna bring it up any more you always discourage. I was just going to say that someone else testified in federal court today that they know about the scheme to pay Billy president Silvio so so we have to act like didn't happen that Kansas. Basketball didn't play within a legal player last year or in eligible player, and that's a better way they didn't play with an ineligible player. Like at some point, we should have a conversation about the final four banner coming down, but I don't wanna get into this text lines. Gonna crush me for bringing up facts because we all know Silvio Sosa got paid to play basketball. Okay. You have to pretend it didn't happen, but all right. I'll be the one that pretend that it didn't happen. The quiz was no doubt who is in no doubt. Other than Winston guy. I thought Moby was in there. Richard Melville. His real name was in there that is not factually correct. If you knew that Wednesday, Fani, Tony, Kanal, Tom, Dumont, and Adrian young, I thought I thought my guy Moby was also in their own gun. Did he do video at Gwen Stafani or something. Collab-. I think he was in no doubt. I couldn't name any other person, no doubt Gwen Stafani. All right now our favorite do our favorite group, which Sweden, which one made no doubt of chiefs blogs for here, which one is Moby, which one is used Gwen Stafani Gwen Stafani. He's way more famous and rich. I I am not Moby. Don't wanna be Moby telling you that right now. All right. We have a poll question up right now. PD believe you've seen it. Who would you rather have on your team? Would you rather have Pete Jamaal, Charles tyreek hill on your team? Joined form and mazing question. I'll take peak Jamal. He touches the ball. So often I'm going the other way I would. I'd rather have tyreek hill. I think when it's all said and done, tyreek may end up being a better player than peak Jamaal Charles was. I mean, I don't think we've seen it yet, but I think there some something to be said this year about what tyreek is doing away from the ball, like last game. Yeah, is sixty yards taking Jalen Ramsey out of the game. And sometimes it doesn't get talked about enough. All right. Let's start with this because I got cooked by the text line a couple days ago for this opinion, absolutely destroyed. I don't even chief defensive, very good. I think that their offense is so good that it is clouded, our judgment when it comes to the defense that the best defense team places this core thirty, six points a game that you have to score thirty eight to beat the same. That's the best defense that they play. Feigning has some stats about sacks and they forced turnovers and they get off the field on third downs. There's no denying that they give up a lot of yards that eventually turned into points when she played better teams and better quarterbacks. And this team is no better at stopping the run. There may be worse, stopping the run this year than they were last year. I think the defense is a problem and is going to only continue to be a bigger problem as injuries and attrition happened throughout the course of the season. Where do you stand on the chiefs defense? Yeah, it's obviously a bit of a problem. You know, they, they give up a ton of points, but for me, it's so hard to evaluate because they're up fifty nine to nine in the first quarter, these accurate, like it's. A game. I thought you meant in a game. Yeah, so so over over the over the season, they get up so much in the in the first quarter and they get they build. These leads so high that it's just it's so hard to to like evaluate like what? What is good defense after that when the team's plan catch up for so long. So I mean, I think that's, I think that's definitely part of it. But if you give me a healthy, Justin Houston de Ford getting after the pass rusher the way he has for the past couple of games. Like I think they're, they're good enough. Bob Sutton has said before that he changes up the game plan depending on situationally says, sometimes I think we're, we're thinking the defense is would be one thing. Yardage wise when maybe they're playing a little bit more off with big leads. I don't wanna give him too much excuses though, because I feel like they're also has been this mentality. Since Sutton has been in Kansas City. He says, you know, he said numerous times in the past, their motto is you're in when you're in, what does that mean? That means when you get in the red zone, you have to bear down and all they care about stopping touchdowns which you know you look at the third down numbers. They've done a really good job with. But at the same time you have to bend but don't break talent, maybe just don't bent. And I just don't think the chiefs when they're starting on the thirty or forty yard line are the same as they are in the in the red zone to me. And to me, yes, the whole thing was dynamic duo Ragland and Hitchens. Well, guess what? Reggie Ragland even playing that much. I mean, you went in the offseason you said we're gonna have this new attitude on defense. We're going to stop the run. You're not really doing either. I mean it, yeah. You had the app to the other day where two guys gotta jet. But other than that, are you really tougher defense? I don't think you are. I just I, I don't trust the numbers yet. Excuse me. I don't trust the numbers yet on this defense for number two for reasons. I mean, look at all the trash yards. The Jacksonville got at the end of that game and in the second half after they're getting smoked. I mean, the Niners put up a ton of yard when they were down thirty five to seven or whatever it was, you know. So I don't completely trust. I look at the money, they get off on third down to get stops on the need to and to this point that they, they have. They didn't Denver down to scores second half, and they had a three and out in Mahomes took him down score and they won the football game. I'm. Good with that, man. It's such a different feeling knowing that you do like you have the offense to comeback like you're downtown. You actually feel good against Denver in the fourth quarter and for the past several years, like the chiefs have needed like a much better defense than they have this year. It just feels like they don't need it as much this year. There's some adjustment. It's a weird style of football in the sense that okay, so you're going to be up all these points and legis assume we're gonna. Do hypothetical ran out at, say, the Blake Bortles and and the Jags defense starts on the one yard line and they run ninety nine yards and your defense. But guess what? That took ten minutes off the clock like that's a win. You know what I mean? Yeah. The yardage is in there, but if you're still winning the football game, so it's just hard. You take all that into account because you maybe you're playing the game little bit differently. Maybe I'll keep playing the devil's advocate. I got no problem doing that. This is the same philosophy last year that we saw didn't work like I feel like we keep saying the same things about the chiefs defense. And then in the playoffs we see that it doesn't work in. Everybody gets mad at Bob. I kind of feel like it's the cycle that we know their defense is a problem. We know Bob Sutton is a problem. We know this team can't really tackle. Whole lot, but Mahomes is really good and they score a lot of points in the other team can't really keep up with it. So it makes us forget about their defense when we know they're going to go up against the team that challenges them better than case keenum in and Philip Lindsay, did we know they're going to be tested better than a quarterback turns the ball over five times on Sunday, and that's going to be the real measure of it. Now I'm with with a comes to garbage or no, denying that they're giving up four hundred sixty passing yards name China quarterback, though in the chiefs defense, and I'm not saying defensive driving crazy times, but they have faced a couple of guys that we think are going to be hall of famers big band and Philip rivers. So it's not like they're facing case keenum every week and CJ Beth accrue. You know what I mean? I mean, we, let's put that in there too. You could put the chargers Jags Steelers in coming patriots in the playoffs this year. Van week. I think the Bengals the following legitimate chance this Sunday, it'll be test. I mean, 'cause Tom Brady out of all the quarterbacks in the league, especially with this offense. Now he's going to be able to stay neck and neck with Mahomes and if it cost him towards the end of the game where it reminds you that no punt game where there's not a ton of punts on Sunday in the chiefs and the blazing by one score and the the, the points within the thirties and forties. I think it's become abundantly clear. Okay. Maybe something different needs to be done here. Feel like in this game Joel that I don't really know how to I with their defense because they're not gonna stops in this game. Like we all know all of us listening. No, it's going to take at least thirty points win this game. Like you're not winning this game twenty eight twenty four. You're not winning this game twenty one seventeen Brady's on one side. He's fully got his full complement of weapons. Sunny Michelle's, been really good elements back Bronx back, Josh. Gordon caught a touchdown last week with Mahomes on that side and the patriots defense. It's going to take a minimum of thirty points that beings defense still gonna be giving up a lot of yards still giving up a lot of big play, still getting mismatch exploit on the team. This, this. Game of Kenya. Offense outscore their offense in is your offense better than Bill Belichick and his what he can come up with. That's what this game is about to be not not about their defense at all. I think there's some truth to that that was kinda my first thought that this would be a just how many points, how many who gets to forty, I is going to win, but patriots seem a little different this year. I don't know if they have the horses to run with the chiefs away that sheeps are playing. I, I'm very curious to see the patriots game plan. See if they're finally the team that actually sticks to the run, slows it down limits. Chiefs possessions gets first downs with Garang, like I think that they may go that route and that you may end up seeing a twenty four twenty game something like that only because the chiefs possessions are limited so much. I think the patriots are one of the smart teams who will change their game plan each week dramatically to, you know, for that specific opponent. I agree. I mean, I think the patriots are stupid. If they don't try to run the football every single time, I mean, and then and then pass off play action. Why wouldn't you. I mean the I mean, I was blown away that the Jags didn't stick to that last week run the football us play action. You could gather defense for what almost six yards a carry. And Sony was shells been phenomenal in Tom Brady's like y'all had if it's about winning. So if it's about winning the football game and running the football helps his win. I'll do it yet. Doug Marrone baffling baffling week. Absolutely. No sense. What they were doing offense of last week yelled in was, I think, for the first half six point something yards per carry and they go away from the run. And I understand. I mean, they got down a little bit early because you went for an fourth down when it was ten, nothing you're down to scores anyway, that didn't make any sense to me right at the beginning of the game. Then you're playing from behind the entire time throwing for over sixty times. I think it was Boorda just baffling game plan, and now you're bringing Jamaal Charles because the elders fault, like, I don't know. I didn't really mind what they're. I mean, I didn't really mind going for in that fourth down. I didn't like that. They threw the ball the two times where I'm with Fayette. Exactly. What I didn't like about their mentality is Jacksonville. It felt like when the chiefs scored the touchdown, go up seven, nothing if felt like Jacksonville's mentality was we have to win a shootout against the chiefs Jacksonville, you're not a team of quip to shoot out against the chiefs like, look at your offense, a weapons look at your quarterback. You're on the road. This is not a game. You can win a shoot out Sunday New England can win a shoot out against the chiefs. I've seen him to fifteen years with Tom Brady, and I think to your point and this is something that'll be I think good for people to see during the regular season. Good for the chiefs. Andy Reid see during the regular season is the run defense as a weakness. All the patriots are doing this. We all bell check is doing this week is saying, what can I exploit? The run defense is the weakness, and it's going to be exploited all day Sunday Bill bell check anchor to get away from what's working. So that's the one thing you at least you'll come out of Sunday even if you do lose the game, which is possible. I mean, the chiefs are going in as five hundred underdogs aleisha learn something about yourself. And then maybe by the end, the season when it's playoff time, he can fix it. I'm going to it should like the blueprints out there on how to slow the chiefs down. I mean, Broncos did teams just haven't done it the Broncos at forty Niners Jaguars for half, you know, at least at least like a little bit like like to to to score in the chiefs. Like I feel like people should know how how to address this game, but we just haven't seen it because you get down fourteen fourteen in the first quarter, like just everything changes, you know? Yeah, I, I kinda think I know what the patriots strategy is going to be against the chiefs. We'll talk about it coming up on the other side. I wanna get you guys opinion on our Eric berry returned draft when you think he'll be back for the team and the best player on the chiefs defense is deformed. We'll talk about him next coming up. Coming up. We continue to play the game that has no name who won last week, Pete, you want. I think it was. You wasn't it Joel one second. No. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know you were dancing in here dancing, winter. I don't really know what else to say. We'll get to that thought he actually forgot who won. We'll get to that coming in ten minutes and we'll give you a chance to win a thousand bucks international cache contests. Actually, wanna ask you guys this first about my theory about just in Houston. I think Justin Houston is going to miss significant amount of time, and I don't think they know how to tell you yet. I think back to the beginning with Eric berry and Pete you tweeted today, it has now been sixty days Eric berry practice for the chiefs sick. You guys are member when it started. It started as a day to day thing. Oh, it wasn't that serious. You remember it was reported that if it was a regular season game, he could play in the very beginning of it. And then the days turned into weeks then turned into a month and now has turned into two months. The Guinness Book world record ladder stadium, the world's air stadium. This is the world record for longest day-to-day stretch play. And he's not coming back this week. He's not coming back next week. Barry's going to be out for significant amount of time. You go out and you get Frank zombie, you sign Nate orchard two guys that play similar position just in Houston. Now I understand about deformed Tano. This tells me you are preparing to not have Justin Houston, at least for the next couple of weeks. Yeah, I buy. I buy it. I could see him coming back and thanksgiving. Same same with berry too. I think it's going to be a little bit for each of them. I don't. I don't know the specific injuries, but listening just listening to Andy Reid. You can get that vibe. I always say, go to the actions. Right? So when he came off the field, I don't remember who tweeted it. So I like to credit this. I can't remember. But someone tweeted, he slammed his helmet Suzy, walked out the field. He did. Yeah, he knew that it was a little bit more serious than than garafolo follows up with the. This could be weeks instantly. Yeah, instantly. So to me, you know, you're looking at least two or three weeks. I would. I would guess, because because I brought the point earlier, we talked about it a sex line was like, well, what about this? What about this? We only hear about these injury information. From people outside the building, they kept telling us it was heel pain and then eighty removed to achilles area. And then we find out from my garafolo more closely what it is Mike follow had this -oday later when it came to just Newson about the hamstring injury, they can tell me this, it's all he might play us. No, he's not playing on Sunday. You went out there in a meal made moves at the position. This is not about tunnel passing. You'll being out this about just in Houston, not being available for the next couple of weeks and they, they knew almost immediately if you listen back to Andy Reid on Monday, very, very wishy washy. When it came to the outside linebacker position of what they were going to do, and then all of a sudden you're got Nate orchard here. I actually like NATO, Richard. I mean, it's a little scary that this is a guy that didn't have a job for most of the year, but it's thirteen. And what about three months of new red flag? I'm I'm interested in seeing what he can do. I mean, obviously, you'd rather have Justin Houston out there, but deferred has been dominating c. be put brillant speak. So at the best game of his career so far last week and you have NATO orchard in the next, you know, maybe get by for a little bit. You know what? It reminds me of bread. It reminds. Me whenever Ned is about to send somebody down. Tell based on how net answers questions. What's about to be the next movie. He might not say, hey, we're sending that guy down to Omaha. I gotta talk to date and we got an anytime. He says, I gotta talk the Dayton, I talk to the staff that's code or discuss the -bility for too much longer. Anytime they tell you they're optimistic or it's day to day when that guy's gonna miss, at least a month in the NFL in chiefs talk, it is well, Brett's looking at that breads look at it, there's something it's on Monday, and he says, it's going to be a stretch and Andy speak. That means he's out about a month. So he'll he'll start practicing first week in member. He's backed by thanksgiving. That's my predict like coaches in GM. They all lie when it comes to injuries, and they lie about so much stuff, you know and part of it, I don't even blame him, you know, like why start something. You know when I don't have to be extremely vague. I'm not gonna tell you the truth and then I'll leave you guys to speculate when the guys ready to go. We're going back in here, but when he's talking insane. Well, Brett's been looking at that, you know, Susan brings up v-chip. Name and he's looking at Outside Linebackers. Then you know that it's something I don't care. If you tell me it's day to day and we'll find out now it's not. You're going on try to hire other people. There's two people with the chiefs who if they get the name mentioned from real, you know, it's trouble Rickel get that to you. Brits, looking at those are the two red flags says, okay. When do you think that Eric berry is coming back? I've put my time at November twenty eighth. I think he comes back the Wednesday before their first game. That's when I think he practices for the first time. When do you guys think Eric Bury's back on the field eight on nineteen. I don't think he plays as you. Pete wasn't prepared for that. It was very matter of fact. He's not playing this year to think about. I. I mean, at this point he read was asked a few weeks ago, speaking of like flags and stuff like that. Read was asked a few weeks ago straight up. Will Eric berry play this year? And it wasn't like, yes, it was well, I don't know, you know? Yeah, whatever yet. I mean, that's me. No. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? I think I think he's back at least practicing before thanksgiving window before thanksgiving. That's the popular. I said, December nineteenth, coming back for the last the last two games that's the by week just as a heads up by we thanksgiving. Is that the last date that someone said? Yeah, that's the latest. Give me December twentieth prices, right. Okay. Ten days between the chargers the game of the Seattle game. They plan Thursday night football, the chargers, two games to get ready to go. It may change if week, seven teen doesn't matter. You know that my move it back week, that's that's the thing I feel like some of this, like how they how they're playing, probably factories in like a little bit. If the chiefs are nine to know you're gonna bring back Barry for your ten th game to ten ino-. Probably not. I'm assuming more rest is going to be good. That's what I'm saying. Like why his need? What do you wanna put three more games of wear and tear in his body and then losing for the playoffs when you gotta play them at Seattle on December twenty third. So I think Eric berry needs to games to get ready for the playoffs. And that's it. And I don't want to risk injury any other ways, especially if you're in good shape. See, I'm kinda only other side of this. I'm curious what you guys think of. I think we're underestimating how hard it is to miss much time as Eric berry and comeback and be a productive NFL player. If he comes back for the last two games that will be, he has missed the last thirty in a game. I mean, it's hard to not play thirty games and then come back and. E the productive player that we all think he's going to be. The team might not even need week seventeenth might already have either one or the two or three seed. They might have one of those spots where they can't help themselves. So the situation very similar last year, I just don't know if you can come off the bench and not play thirty consecutive games be really productive, play one game, and then be even close to one hundred percent for the place where you can realistically really change things for this team. That's a great point. Most players are not the same even like after a season, like even wince miss half of last season, whatever it was still a little rusty. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't know. Man, like maybe berries just getting a little bit older. It'll be different, but it always just felt like he was. He always came back to the player that he was like even at the beginning of last year, you know, before you got hurt or at the end of sixteen, whatever it was. I mean, he looked like still like an elite level player. So I mean, may just be my optimism here, but I think he can come back in a lease be impactful. Give. Him a month. I think guys who missed the preseason sometimes I mean, you saw Reggie Ragland miss most of the preseason. I think he's still trying to figure it out here. We are in week five to me. That's a huge point point of it because I don't always football shape, but Dirk Johnson say this and always stuck me. It's training your is Eric berry. We'll have missed two years without having his eyes trained for the NFL. So to me, I think it does or would take a little bit more than two games. We need a prediction for for Sunday. All right. You guys wanted to forty prediction. Who have winning. This is a real test, see who you have come on their only like three point. Dogs, of course. I got the chiefs winning on five, no. At this point, how can I stop now that the patriots of loss to the lions. This year. I got twenty seven twenty six chiefs. I'd be stunned if neither teams worth thirty in this. When I be really surprised if that was the case, what would you guys do with Ford. Gotta tag. If you keep playing like this always you sold Joel's face when I asked, I don't know what it is about the four that makes everybody like that. When it comes to pain, I'm not saying I give a long term deal, but you normally you normally don't. Let pass Russia's walk in the NFL for just a compensatory they had if to know or Tano or speaks had shown more, I'd be willing to maybe think about letting them walk, but you're gonna loose Houston to probably you gotta find a way somehow to keep deformed and I don't wanna pay him ninety million dollars so paint fifteen deal. Don't be that team that that let's another Khalil Mack like player just walk away right now. We're going to little. He's got the most pressures in the NFL. He does have one more game. He's got the more game, but he's got five more pressures in that. Got the most little tiny nagging injuries that make back in the NFL. I'm coming around on Ford. I was saying, let him walk prior to this year. It's starting to get to the point to Carrington with character saying where you can't. Tag them, the perfect situation, Houston, they may cut him. You're not sold on Paseo or brilliant speech. You don't know what you have yet. I mean, forging a perfect situation either give tag to get a deal somewhere that is jolt dorm had pry the other voice you hurt his Pete Sweeney from airhead pride. Thanks so much for coming in. You guys. Hi, Karen, Fisher. I wanna tell you about another podcast. You should check out. It's called Rico decode every week. I talked to Tekken media's key players about how they're changing our world. I interview tech executives like Facebook, CEO, Mark Zuckerberg, political figures like Hillary Clinton and media personalities, like John, Kerry you literally wrote the book on theranos once again, the name of the show is Rico decode hosted by me Kerris wisher. You can find it on apple podcast. Ever you listen to the show, see you there.

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Arrowhead Pride Free Agency Special

Arrowhead Pride

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Arrowhead Pride Free Agency Special

"Welcome into what is the wildest week in the National Football League. Certainly the wildest week for chase fans in a long long time. Welcome to Arrowhead, bride cheese free agency, federal myself. Jay Englanders, no big at night than I this is head pride special. Pete Sweeney editor in chief Arrowhead pride in the house. What's going on j kits Swanson Mr. Mahomes breakdown film, which I don't know how he got that job at early head pride, but certainly more fun than Craig stout. Doing defense head last year. Welcome Kim Swanson, it's a great gig being. And I honestly it we'll talk about this minute. I think Craig's on the come up here too. I think he's pretty excited about what we've got going on here on the defensive side of the football some new energy here. I think based upon the past few days a lot of chiefs fans hope that Craig's job is a lot better this year, and you're starting to have feel like that a little bit. Of course, like couldn't really get much worse than than last year. Probably not again. And you don't want to jinx because you can always get worse. We have a lot of fun. There's a lot of chiefs news going on. I I haven't seen this kind of traction for chiefs news a reported earlier today that from a source that look like people asking me get you people asking me. What do you see? Here's the deal Pete. You don't mind you. I had a motto when I did a podcast. It was three guys in the motto was we don't break news. We just break chairs, we are live late overweight. All right. A broken one story in my life, Pete. But I had a little birdie told me that looks like Darby's. He's here report thought he'd signer serious interest on both sides people keep hitting me up on Twitter on this. I'm sure getting the questions as well Ronald Darby in here for a visit with the Kansas City. Chiefs off injured Jason Brett was one of those guys looks like he signed elsewhere as well so Darby really elevated himself to kind of the top of the chart now is far as free agents and corners, but he's coming off that ACL. Yeah. This just goes to show how unpredictable cheats free agency has been ever all day long. We're. Just waiting. Okay now. Darby's coming after the Matthew signing Darby's coming Darby's coming. And then all of a sudden, they say, Nope. Alex okafor. Sorry. Sorry. You've got all excited about that quarterback. Everybody wanna former fourth round pick from the Arizona Cardinals picked a separate round from the Honey badger in Arizona with the cardinals in. They're both real heavy, but he's defensive in for New Orleans Saints four and a half sacks last year. But Alex Okafor new member of the chiefs Damian Wilson linebacker signed yesterday. Of course, Carlos I'd was kind of the first signing for the Kansas City Chiefs, and obviously the Honey badger that had his press conference, Pete Nye were right there, and we had a chance to talk to Honey badger. You'll hear that in the next segment. He is good. He he gives some insight on what pet homes and his conversation was like, you're definitely going to want to hear this. Plus. I asked him if you takes what he wants hear what he has to say. It was a magic moment. We'll start with this before we get into the biggest story line in the off season. Your thoughts on Alex Okeafor? Dial. I'm one of these guys. Don't look at the sack numbers. Look at the pressures Lukhele sets the edge in a four three defense. He's tough. He's a physical player, but don't believe be blown away with the sack numbers Cam. Yeah. You're not going to be blown blown away with a sack numbers. But what he is. I think you're starting to kind of see what Steve Spagnolo once in his defensive ends, right? Six four two hundred sixty pounds. He's got some length to him. He has some density to him. He's got the capabilities to set a hard edge to your point. And I think that's kind of what they're trying to target is is some guys that are gonna fit what Steve Spagnolo does. And what he wants out of those kind of guys in this is the first step towards that one of the few guys that was really available that fit that mold a great move. Just to kind of get this ball rolling to try to add some bulk in some depth to that defensive line. Thirty nine million Pete. And of course, Honey badgers take a chunk of the Houston money, but the chiefs that was revs breadth beach at a press conference that was number one concern he said cap is he real issue cap, and he loves the draft. Capital? First round this year to second rounds next year first round to second rounds, he called it ammo for what he could do. Yeah. I think the common theme on the conference. Call from bread vich today was he didn't really wanna make some of these moves. I think the chiefs for backed into a corner and then once day evaluated everything with the money and the talent and so on and so forth. I think he finally felt there was no choice, but to move on from default move on from Houston Houston on from Maric, Barry, I think in a world that this was the MLB without a salary cap. I think at least two of those guys might still be here. But they decided this is the best course of action. And I think and you could tell this from the press conference today with Andy Reid, I think they're really embracing this idea of a change of scenery and they've managed to make a change of scenery for all the guys that are returning. Chris Jones is one included because they have a new defensive coordinator new coaching staff, a new scheme, and really what they were pushing today was Matthew as the leader of this new chiefs defense change, and I think that's going to be welcomed the chiefs fans because again we joke. About at the top. But the defense was horrible. Sensually Pete you already. He was calling it a restart like a fresh group at the do what they want like this groups coming in. And and he kind of looked at Tyron, Matthew. It's like all these new guys new coaching staff and everything this is this is a new beginning for them. The offense is already set. But this defense this is hitting the reset button and Andy himself to he's very purposeful. I've noticed now covering him for a couple of years. He's very purposeful with his words, meaning he thinks about what he says to media before he says it, and I think he's learned that over the course of twenty years in the National Football League. Gotta be really careful what you say. I I am doing a column released tomorrow morning based upon quotes from Matthews press conference, which you can find it our had pride dot com. But I pointed out he associated Matthew with the word leader or leadership three times and the pressure that was a purposeful moment. This is the new face of the defense. Not only is he here to become the chiefs new safety. I find that this team and Andy Reid bread veto included. Everybody is pushing this guy to be the leader. Of the chiefs defense, which is crazy to say for a new guy, but there's been so much turnover. And you've got rid of all those old leaders that it's a it's a welcomed role. And that's what he's gonna play and they had to do something like this. They had to find someone to help them establish this culture help Steve Spagnolo established the culture that he wants on this on this defensive side of the football because you're right. You know, they they made massive changes. Aired berry had a large presence in that locker room both on both sides of the of the ball. Honestly, I think he was beloved by everyone in that building when it comes to the players. So they had to go out and find a guy that isn't not not just a great player. And with a lot of diverse skill sets. They can utilize a lot of different ways. Like, he's a fantastic piece for Steve's Bagnall. But that's the this is the new tone center, and it was mandatory that they got something like this because they couldn't go without it or gentleman was do this. I this is a tough one. This is a tough question because there's so many probably different answers by ten people. Might be ten different answers. So as you guys because you guys eat sleep and eat and sleep and breathe chiefs. Like, I do biggest storyline for the chiefs in the off season that could be the Honey badger that could be berry released that could be deferred traded Justin Houston released in your mind. Pete swinney. What is the biggest chiefs storyline? Maybe by hits that you've had on the website, maybe by interest you've received your own personal thoughts. What is the chiefs? Biggest storyline. I find the biggest storyline from this off season. Was we all thought going into it that of the three main cuts or trades being Ford, Houston and berry we all thought? Okay. The chiefs may remove one of these guys from team. Maybe it's even to you know, you thinking, okay, they keep deport. I don't think there's a media member. I don't think is a fan out there who thought okay when the chiefs season stars in two thousand nineteen all three of these guys. And keeping in mind. How much they've mentioned the team Eric berry one over the past decade would be gone from the chiefs. And to me, that's the biggest thing it's their identities changing now, and if you're going to really do that you gotta get rid of what would be the old guard and the old leaders they're pumping Matthew as leader today. He's twenty six years old, and to me again, I think if there's anything I point to it said all three of these guys are gone. I think I look specifically to the default situation, actually because you kind of to your point that was the full on slamming of the reset button for this defense because defaults still has a ton of value right now. He I mean, he he had thirteen sacks. This is a major jump off a cliff Eric berry, he hasn't been able to play very much the last couple years you kind of expected that Justin Houston. He was on the way down still productive player. But to move on from guy with thirteen sacks with major disruptive productivity that is a absolute slamming of that re- reset button, and you love. Draft a rounder is nothing Scott. Like, it's no I understand a lot of cheese fans are upset that it isn't this year. But a second rounder that's hard to its third round. Two to third has been very kind of cheese cream hunt. Travis Kelsey, Justin Houston. Is this of significant players? They've even gotten a third they may be better than the third round. They are the second round send the second round or back. Let's get Tanno. They've had some they've had some MRs in the second round lately. Maybe they should just try to defer that asset to third rounder maybe 'cause throughout rows been better than than it has the second the last couple of been a little rough. Well, the free agency period is official now unofficially yesterday at three o'clock legal tampering starting eleventh. This is my this is my biggest storyline guys. And it's the name. I didn't mention Honey badgers. A huge thing that brought a lot of excitement to a lot of people. Eric berry being released was not a surprise to me because I thought that was going to happen. All I didn't think there was any way they were going to keep him here with the cap savings. There was no reason to because he's held on the roster. My biggest storyline for the chiefs in two thousand nineteen is Andy Reid finally getting rid of Bob Sutton. And I don't know if Patrick Mahomes was influential in that Clark hunt. I think that's the big story line because all these other factors with Houston. The honeybee all this is because these Spagnolo in defensive flossy change to the phone. Three to me. Even though these are all big moves the change over from Sutton to spags to me is the biggest story line of the chiefs. And it seems like they're giving spec know locally quite a lot of control get when Sutton was here. Again, he was the leader of the defense so to speak, but it was still Andy Reid, you could tell was just overseeing I feel like now, and maybe Jay you can kind of way in on this a little bit doesn't feel like Spagnolo's almost a defensive head coach that you that feeling that you really never had with Bob Sutton. Look at the story today bread feature tells the story where he gave Spagnolo a bunch of safety tape and spec Noah came back and said man, I can't really find any weaknesses with this. Honey, badger kid and then bread features. Like, okay, we're going to go get him. Like, it's almost like, okay. Andy's the head coach of the offense. And now you finally have that shrew defensive leader in the coaching staff. It was my question today, debris beach. I said with the signing of the Honey badger how influential was Steve spagnuola near defensive staff that you've assembled saying. Hey, we need this guy. How much advice did you take from those guys Zanny read it was kind of hands off? I'm sure you'll ks everything, but he's kind of like, I guess you kinda do the defense whatever you want. But how influential there in beach gave an interesting answer. They were influential. They did talk to breath each and he took their suggestions. Again. He's the guy that listens to his staff, which is courtesy important heaven that communication with the defense at some that's been lacking. But he commands respect spags is not the type a guy the media would ever laugh at in a press conference like we've seen with. I'm not kidding. Yeah. He's the guy. Bob sudden, I feel by reading the default article and everything else they didn't like him or they didn't respect him and spags is not that kind of guy. He's an in your face type of human being. Then you see he commands a room for sure. And you know, you can see some clips of him. You can see him actually doing some education with an NFL network this year this year too. He did some fantastic work where he was kind of you know, he's a fantastic teacher, and you can tell right away the thing. I like about the Spagnolo move is what he's brought in around him as well. You look at Brandon daily coming over from the patriots who's been able to do more with less when it comes to your pass rush. You're craters. How Rushworth the thirtieth the NFL? He solved the problems of Pat. I mean, he slowed Patrick Mahomes down enough in the AFC championship game. I'm sure he was an integral part of that rush plan. And then you add Matt house who we on aero head pride. We're talking about a dark horse defensive coordinator candidate coming in has that experience in the spread in the college game. Those insights those balances to help them cobble together enough pressure in stay modern. I think is going to be a huge asset to this team. It's gonna be fun to watch what they're able to do with this group because they did move on from so many rare in unique talents that were part of Kansas City for such a long time. Well, the biggest free agent move was the Honey badger come into Kansas City, Pete Sweeney, and I had an opportunity to catch up with Mr. badger. And you're going to be surprised what he said that pet Mahomes homes. Told him which we'll get to that. What he says? Because what he says, I think is pretty integral into what he really thinks inside workings of Pat Mahomes. We talk about the Honey badger with our interview next. Welcome back to the Arrowhead pride. She's free agencies special. Jay, Bentley Pete Sweeney editor in chief of Arrowhead pride dot com. Of course, Kim Swanson Arrowhead pride dot com as well which, but as well plug this because this is a special deal before we dive into view the draft guide coming out. It's different. It's unique. It's wonderful for draft nerd like me that you have taken a look it over what three hundred prospect and how they fit in with the chiefs, even though the may not take like not going to have eight picks in. I don't think they make a picks. It would tell us about it. Can't tell us how we can get it. Yes. So we're right in a draft guide specifically about how players fit the candidacy chiefs, you're going to have over three hundred prospects. Graded you're going to have over two hundred ups talking about each players fit specifically with the chiefs features and some really cool stuff that we're really excited to kind of talk about here in the future. You can order it preorder. It's releasing April eighth. Go to gum g m dot CO slash Casey draft. Promos promo code six. Ten gets to you for six dollars ninety nine cents bro, really excited for you all to see this. It's gonna it's gonna be a lot of taco Bill for that. The key the key. I think during the month of April as you're watching NFL network, and they're talking about certain prospects. You'll be able to hit your control F and see what the boys are said about him. And then I ended on draft night as we're talking about players. I think that'll be the part of the fun for the fans is now you'll have at least some insight. We'll how does this fit with my team because they're talking about all thirty two teams on the NFL network. You'll get chief specific analysis from this draft cut. Yeah, we're going to have to do something in them and have to get it. Because draft I stay tuned for that. But I do believe once in an eye. We'll have a part of that as we'll Pete Sweeney in probably Craig's dot is wells. Oop definitely have to be hitting it up. Pete swinging. I got a chance to catch up with Mr. badger these. Guy that shows up on the jet that everybody's talking about the chiefs of a high video about him. Now this the Patrick Mahomes of the defense. Listen to what he has to say when we get to the part where we're talking about. I think pe- dash the question, but was that conversation like with Pat, Mahomes, very interesting stuff from the Honey badger. Here's Pete nice one one place just a couple of hours ago. Okay. Kansas city. You saw how close they were to the Super Bowl. I mean on the doorsteps of giving is that one of the big attractions for you choosing this team? Yeah. Absolutely nothing. You know, the point in my career right now, you know, you wanna play competitive football team. We're gonna play football team that really has a chance to to win a championship. And. Doc, Kansas City. They often meet at the opportunity this season. Who's civically? Have you spoken with on the chiefs so far now that you've been a part of now you've mentioned that you were in communication with few guys who've you talked to one of they say off spoke all spoke with a pet spoke of pet over the phone. He's probably been the guy been speaking to the most. And you know, his whole thing is you know, I got offense. I just need a guy to come in and really lead the defense in the right way. And so I mean, that's that'll be my job that'll be my task amongst a bunch of other things. But I think ultimately there's really coming in giving his team defensive who we are manner to you more hearing any recall, you a leader already. And here you are day one. I I in the door that matter a lot to give in his twenty plus year history in this league or yeah. Speaks volumes. You know? I think anytime a coach, you know, what that kind of pedigree. You know to to to look at a guy like me who I see myself as imperfect football player. I'm not perfect by any stretch on to to to have people believe in you like that. They don't really know you. It's a good feeling since a pressure though. Because with Pat it was about winning that playoff game. It's about winning that playoff game in Ovid stadium. You feel that way a little bit with this defense that people are looking at you kind of as a saviors is it a welcome challenge for you. You know, it'd be definitely a challenge time. You know, I'm looking forward to it. You know, I've always prided myself on, you know, you know, being a good guy been a team guy, you know, making plays when it's necessary on. So I mean coming here. I just want to beat the best player. I could be best best teammate. I can be in. You know, I wanna make the plea on a matter the most Honey badger toughest animal in the kingdom. What about you? What you want always wanted that? Do I do? Jay, jay. I had to do it Pete. He takes what he wants. The Honey badger man, I've always wanted to as I used to have a t shirt that said he takes what he wants a couple things are gentleman. Double thing. Won the respect for eighty read. Right right, there that shows that he commands a room. He's got that respect to the question. You asked about the conversation with Mahomes. Yeah. I need a guy and he had talked about it in the press conference. But he didn't go to the extent that he went to you. And I that shows me. Pet Mahomes runs this team what he's telling I need a guy for that defense that showing you right there. This is his team not only is the offenses team. The defense is as well. I need a guy that shows the ultimate trust from homes would Tyronn Matthew. And now we've reached the point where Patrick Mahomes has gone through all this PR training. He's got a year never gonna trash the defense. But you do have these little moments sometimes where they use frustrating. This kind of right? You found out. Okay. Pat, Mahomes, really, you know realize and you finally got confirmation like he realized what everyone else on the outside realize like the defense held his team back to hear that through Matthew and for him to say, yeah, I've already talked to Pat, Mahomes and Kent you had an article today on our at bright dot com. That Mahomes is clearly this team from home to say, I got the offense, man. I just need someone like me on the defense and say that to him says, okay, Mahomes is. Has confidence in Matthew to to be able to do that? And you hear him like there's a lot of people that could come into the situation and be a little bit scared. Like, okay. This is a team that's on the doorstep of a Super Bowl. It's going to be on me to lead us defense. But you could tell just from his demeanor today, and that conversation he's embracing the role, and I can't tell you enough. Like, that's just what this team needs. Given they had to make the decision to get rid of Eric berry for the situation that what what it was. Yeah. In the best versions of the chiefs defenses have had a guy like that. That's been able to play consistently think about Eric Bury's last full season where he was one of the best safeties in all football. You know, he was able to command that respect and and actually translated onto the field where the last couple of years you haven't had that opportunity with him because of the injury. So now, you've got a guy you're hoping can stay healthy. But you know, he's able to do similar things to Eric berry did and he's got the mentality. And this is a clean slate in every a lot of people coming in aren't going to have any back. History with what this what this defense was like in the past. I liked it. They hit the reset. And I liked it. Tyronn Matthews the guy that is carrying this group into the future. They really did that he they hit that reset. But coming up next Brett VH talked a lot about this. This is very important about free Gresta free agency in the NFL draft about the cat being a real issue for this team in their move to be in the more aggressive football team. Would Brett vit said next. Beck deal. Hit pride agency special Jeep pink Swanson and editor in chief with her ahead fried. Got Pete Sweeney bread VH. He says this this is a real issue. He's not sugar coating the calf real issue for the Kansas City Chiefs. Now, not so much in real. I mean cats an issue, right? So you got to take that into consideration. So you look at, you know, can they help us, and, you know, at the cost of what it would take us to do that. And then again, knowing that contracts and extensions are looming behind here. What can we do? Now to put ourselves in a good position. Not just for next year. But against the next three four five six years VH was not put into a great situation. John Dorsey is getting a lot of credit for being a so called genius. But. Let's face it guys. I mean with those kind of draft picks and that kind of space under the salary cap. You can be a little bit smarter. We can go out and get what you want with money and picks. Am I not right? I like everything John Dorsey is doing, and I think the Browns will be in the playoffs this year, though. I think the Browns are unit now that being said I mean, it is March you don't win fairly like in March. And so let's see how they interact and said, you know, so the same thing last year about the Rams went Super Bowl. But no, yes. No. So Vitas VH was in a little bit of a corner here. And like I said kind of at the front of the broadcast here he had to make the moves. I think he necessarily didn't wanna make now I'm not saying in even in if there was a lot of cap room. Eric berry would still be on this team. Because I think there's a lot more to that. But I feel like just in Houston, and deferred might still be here had there been enough cap room. Now, he's created the camp room where he can play a little bit. And I think most importantly, and I think this is forgotten. Lot. When we ever talk about this stuff is Mahomes is two hundred million dollar contract. Plus, it's looming. It's next year. It's coming. But he admitted it before you saying. Agreed. But I'm just saying like, there's so not only are you up against the cap, but you have that looming and you have to think, okay. How can we still be competitive when we have to pay this player deservedly? So this crazy man money. And I think the Eric berry and Justin Houston contracts were largely failures. I mean, they they did not get the most out of those contracts. Clearly, I mean, aired very that moved on very quickly from Justin Houston, obviously, the injuries kind of kind of force you betta clerk, forcing Dorsey. You know, it could have been. I mean, they both stretch those up both those guys played on a franchise tat come into town to get the deal done. I mean, I don't both of those were failures from from every standpoint, I think there was some rumblings about how you know. The injury guarantees might have offended Eric berry and stuff like that. So that whole situation. I you gotta think that both of those contracts were were negative marks. When they moved on from John Dorsey, but Brett v-chip done a fantastic job of negotiating this whole situation navigating through all these issues and now he said his team up where he's got a lot of. Raft. Capital for the next two years. He's got some cap space to work with in kind of planned in extend Patrick Mahomes window beyond just as rookie contract. And I think that's the goal right now. The only thing is is right now it's Super Bowl tripper bus. Like these were big moves at each made. If the chiefs go into the AFC title game, and they score plus thirty plus points again, and they lose that game. I think people will come back to this week or two here in say did we really make all the right moves on defense, especially if we look in San Francisco and D four has fifteen sacks again like I think he's made some big moves. But we can't forget in the grand scheme of things. Chiefs fans rightfully so are expecting this team to get to the Super Bowl next year. And I I don't blame them. No. I don't either in some I started the show with the other night was everybody was complaining because the chiefs were doing anything here. But this was this. The Honey badger was signed that night. Did nothing was happening. They had the clear some space in obviously move like the badger that causes you to make some moves this what Brett beats said that during his teleconference about this team shift now to being more aggressive. I think the fact that we have a one or two this year and then wanted to choose next year on in addition to be aggressive on now thirty seasons, but I think you know to start with the cap and again the tough decisions. But I think it's something that looking toward not just next season for the next two three four five years. If you're not proactive union approach than you're always chasing, the tail and you're always in in in in a position, we don't have draft capital. You don't have to have big. He seems to be Pete to be very aggressive guy in if he had the picks in the end the cap space. I think people crazy. They would love the moves that he didn't have any starting to make the space. I mean, again, he was in a bad situation with some. The contracts they had and limited draft picks. They had. But now he's got a little bit of ammo. And he's in this new GM mold like listening LA times at a great piece on the younger new GM's, which beach is one of these guys rest of type of guy. But again, he's being aggressive for what he can do. But we haven't seen the draft yet. Yeah. I don't want to steal point here. So I'll just say quick. And then I'll let you kind of describe what you mean. But Kent's been pushing this idea that bread features not gonna pick a twenty nine is going to be trading up. If you don't believe that you're not paying attention. Right. And that's been Br visas kind of Emo, you saw he made one original pick last year all of his other picks were acquired via trade, whether they they were all trade ups to so one of his picks that he came into the draft weekend with he actually used so he just he kept moving up in maneuvering through the border try to get the players he likes. This is the first year that they'd had a first round pick with Brett VH as the leader of this of this organization on the on the personnel side. I will eat this microphone if Brett VH picks at twenty. Nine. I think he's moving up. I think you're full because one guy in Cleveland said he was gonna eat poop bigger Mayfield was draft. And he had the poop our own royals insider, Cody tap is eaten a hat before. Don't forget, I'll say this. I mean, I'm looking at the news again, we're on the the free agency special Justin Houston released. Eric berry released d Ford traded you bring in Matthew Wilson and okra for now. And don't forget, and we can't lose sight of this eater. Either this plan, right? The chiefs just can't be thirty one again like right and get them to ten to fifteen fifteen even like seventeen eighteen I I think you win most of your football games. Because like if you challenge Spagnolo, and I don't think spectacle is gonna, you know, eat this and say, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna accept this challenge because he's gonna want zeroes every week. But all all the defense has to do is keep the other team from scoring twenty one and you should win the game. I think would Pat Mahomes in this offense. I mean, the cheese led the NFL and sax last year with fifty two and it didn't matter they they were thirty first in defense, and they couldn't get off the field when it. Mattered most at home in the playoffs on three straight third and longs in overtime. They just got they're going to spread this cap space around they're going to fill holes at all levels of the defense the pass Russia's not going to be the same as it was. But they're still going to cobble together in manufacture pressure because Steve Spagnolo that's how he does it. He's he's going to have to you know, Honey badgers coming off the edge. I mean, he's he's blitz. And from the nickel, you're gonna you're gonna have a lot more creativity. You're going to have a lot more disguising shade just got to be a little bit better. And they're going to be fine in the patriots to the before four minutes. The piece of the bowl lists the entire game than what the patriots to the for CEPA yet. They still went to overtime with them. It just shows you how close this team was Phyllis about the departures of berry, Houston or four serving. They're just can't say the departure to the point of them got paid. What got paid to not be here? Here's here's my thinking. I am not set at all about any of them. And I know there's been people, you know, have this emotional reaction, you you can't be emotional football. You can't there's no crying and football. You can't be you can't be emotionally griping club in the tub. You got to be able to place berry. I totally understand D Ford. I've never been a fan of the Ford, and I scratch my head that the night that they took him and I had to talk myself into the pick. And I talked myself into Dorsey always had a plan with with Albert here. The Fisher is going to take his job, Sean Smith and Marcus Peters. I mean, there's always been a plan of succession Tombaugh, we got two more contracts because the Ford wasn't ready and always bug me. Because it practice he had two guys that are more than willing to share information. We're talking about Ford and Tomba that are very open. And they're not guarded like, I'm not teaching you any my secrets like Tomba's like I'm not teaching you young buck because you're coming to take my job, very different tumbles. Like a teacher to them any still didn't get it. He put it together under Mike Smith who happens to be in Green Bay now. And I thought that perjure Mike Smith. With mint the departure of d Ford. He was the guy that had the operation manual for Ford. Yeah. I think to say you're not sad about all these guys. I think they've met mattered so much over the years that there is a little sadness that comes with their departure. Everyone knows how I feel. I think about Eric berry regarding the player, I think the chiefs had to move on. I think they made the right decision. Justin, Houston was clearly I think on the the decline of his career. I don't think he was ever going to be that twenty four team player. And if you're talking to me about the money, they freed up fourteen million and cap space guesses making fourteen million a year based upon what we've seen so far the Honey badger. So you take that. Right. I think the one question that that I do have is is deferred. Because this to me, it was the picture perfect scenario for the franchise tech. I saying you sign this guy long-term because odds are he is not going to play a full season. But based upon what he did last year and to say, he's not a fit as a four three under when he did it in college. And he felt like he finally had turned the corner again, you're right about it being with Mike Smith. Who's now in Green Bay in that being said, I just think it's a little risky guy. Who's still twenty six twenty seven sending him away when you don't necessarily. I think still don't know what he can be again, hindsight will be twenty twenty. We'll figure about out what the says. But that's me. The deformed move is the only one I kind of question, and I think that was the most surprising that they were actually doing. And I part of me wonders, you know, he's had a history of back issues back issues. Typically, don't go away. You wonder if the chiefs were just trying to get out of head of that? I mean, just they got a great season out of default. They got thirteen sec possibly career year out of default. So they I think they're just selling high. I think they're just saying, you know, they they know they're they know his medical is better than anyone else. Right. I mean, they're the they're going to be the team to note lingering back issues that they don't go away. What he set the edge? I think that's the biggest different is concerned. We've seen him run. We've seen bring gore. The toughest issue has always been an issue with me with him in for the life of me. I can't figure out why they just had Gary Gibbs is an inside in light that was miserable. That was the mistake. I it's huge. It's been careless any read once took an office of line coach and putting his coordinator in Philadelphia didn't make sense a thought he was very careful or very careless the way that he ran this defense. No love lost between me and the Ford leaving. Because I see guys do this from time to time in contract years. And I do think some of those other pieces like Chris Jones emergence helped guy like the Ford not drawing. Those double teams all the time. No doubt. I mean, there are a lot of aspects. I think to it. I just just scares me. I I think for me, I I was around e Ford, and I thought he was a gamer. I thought he was very prideful player. I think he wanted to be great again. I think a lot of injuries kept him back. But this is not new for the chiefs. Like, I remember Don Tari PO came and he had a history of back issues in the chiefs and really want to do it. And so they went on and moved on. And I don't think he messed with the back like the back seems like the type of issue where you just it's too unknown. You don't really know how it's going to necessarily work out. So that could factor into it to again, like I said, I get all the moves to deport is is is the only one that remains a question Mark to me. Wouldn't surprise that any of them move. None of them are are are are complete shocks where you're not the some default shocks people that when shocks, but even Seville shocked me because the money you get the money, it'd be paying and not only that. But I go back to Steve Spag Noam in that press conference where he was unsure what to do with d Ford. You know, four threes, he linebackers. They did not know where to put him. And I think that's the influence of these Spagnolo if he found a true fit form, it's still be on the state. Yeah. And like, I mean, default he's not a perfect fit. I don't think that was the sole reason I think that was a really good easy excuse to put out out in front. But you know, he there is some questions some concerns about if he's able to set a hard edge. He's not this typical prototype that Steve Spag. No, the ones in to be honest, obviously, he'll be able to affect the he would have been able to affect the quarterback in Kansas City for as long as he was playing. But you know, Steve Spag. No, you are stripping this thing down to the studs. Give him what he wants how he wants it and use that fifteen million dollars in cap space. I mean all the first year because any like, okay, Alex Okafor entire in Matthew. They're going to sign three year deals or they are signing through your deals. The first year of those hit of those salaries are typically not high. So you've been able to bring Alex Okeafor antiroom, Matthew, most likely and probably another piece with. The money you save from D Ford. Yeah. And and to the chiefs credit and final point on this to the chiefs credit. I think this this defense was so poor last year. It was like an old S creaky building that they said instead of trying to like fix these little things put this mold in and then when it rains again it floods they said we're gonna knock this mother down. And that's what they did. He read new beginning for the defense. What he said today we come back. We'll take a look at the chiefs dengue or the chiefs done free agency or will Darby be signed or signed those where we don't know in the NFL draft is coming up, which I think is a crucial part to the chiefs in the future. He big port of even this free agency going forward, we discuss that next. Visit beginning so he's coming in fresh with the rest of the guys and they're going to build this together along with the coaching staff. So normally if you have good players and good coaches normally you have success. And so we feel like we're we're right there and had been that direction. There you go eighty read today talking about the Honey badger fresh start. He talks about the reset button as well. Peop- the NFL draft is coming up for the Kansas City Chiefs. Once again this team wants to be youthful and aggressive draft number two for Brett VH were he can be young in aggressive, right? And the chiefs have the number twenty nine pick and they have to second rounders. So that's three in the top sixty four if you've been following along. And you really like read into what Brett features has been saying, I don't think they're going to necessarily get the impact player they want unless they're trading up in this draft yet we in the the farther I. Get down into the draft season. We're looking in valuating, and we're kind of just seeing kind of the consensus buzz out there, you you really think that if the chiefs are going to want they're going to get a guy that they specifically if they want to get an edge, or if they wanna get a corner, it's not gonna be at twenty nine non a guy that they Jalen Ferguson is that they'd be there. I I'm not sold on we talked about Jillian Ferguson last week would being. But you know, I don't know if I trust him yet at twenty nine I don't know if there's an athletic upside to I don't know if there's enough flexibility off the edge. I think he's got extremely powerful hands. He's long he kind of fits that mold. I'm just curious. And I wanna see how he tests you know, because he didn't like him at the senior bowl. And you were there. I didn't really like him at the senior bowl either. There's there's a lot of questions for me about him. Even though he literally leaves Louisiana tech leading all NCAA in career sacks. He has the record daddy. I think the money question for chiefs fans, and Kensington this. They're preparing the draft guide. Again, that's going to be released on April eight. Eighth Casey draft guide. The chiefs pick twenty nine right in the first round that doesn't necessarily mean, you know, if they're thirty two teams picking there's thirty two first round pick writer, how many first round picks to you guys. Kind of gauge are there this year in the teens. And and honestly like with most drafts you're gonna have anywhere between fifteen and twenty consensus locked down first round greats. And you're gonna have good players that are drafted in the second. You know in the first round that kinda have like an early second round grade. That's kind of about we're out. We're in the teams right now. And you know, a guy like clo- and Farrell from from Clemson along edge, he fits that athletic profile that the physical profile that the chiefs kind of looked like they like, and he's not going to test at the combine he's not gonna tested his pro day that might be a guy that there's some question marks that athletic profile that the cheese can take advantage of select because he's a good football player. And a pretty good athlete. Even if there's some question marks without actually seeing the result. So someone like that. If he falls that's a perfect situation for that. I think to this move to get Matthew and make this lash it makes the draft a little bit easier. Right. Because you were thinking about that position. And now maybe instead of considering a safety, but you can focus on an edge, which is clearly now in need they've put themselves into that position. And then of course, the quarterback position which everyone wants to say so you have those first rounder and then a two second rounders. So I think as cheese fan, you hope they come away with a really good rusher. And also really good cornerback. Right. They've got to they've got an Email. They have to nail those two positions. They have to have contributors for two thousand nineteen at edge in that corner of you're saying not really speaks. They've almost showed their poker hand a little bit too. With the posing GM's no-one the situation. The chiefs are in right? They may have to give up more than they wanted to Houston and Ford you've got veto on the phone. We'll Brett what are you gonna do? We don't use our in a jam. Yeah. Everybody knows your intention free. Right. What are you gonna do? 'cause you're in a jam. I've talked about this division, Mahomes proofing their teams, but golf courses used to Tiger Woods prove their teams that I think the draft is going to show with some of that should the chiefs. Maybe look at the raiders and other things in the vision the need for corners. When you have it in Tonio Brown tyrel Williams, you know, in Oakland would that be. Where are you going? Are you going to edge is three I just can't get away from with the first pick what I'm going corner. Second pick no question. No question. I think you go cornerback in the second round. If you ask me today. I think there's there's a really good group of five six rushers in. It's going to go in that top thirtyish range in you need to probably grab one of those. There's a middle class a Cornerbacks. It's probably gonna go anywhere between thirty five in sixty five. You Jones your Baker and bud Murphy of moved up. I think they've both. They both have more question marks can be looking at Murphy. No they today. Stay away from that. They will pass probably need to go pass rusher. I'm and then if honestly Baker or or Byron Murphy, those guys might wind up falling into the late thirties because they didn't tested a great level or just them who that's that's a good question. That's a lot Rockies sin is kind of. I bet you rock in is in the conversation in that range now in that thirty five twenty five. The cool thing is if they if they keep it, which I don't think they will when you're picking sixty one of the sixty three if you have this cognitive dissidence, right which one you should pick. You have to picks away where if you grab a guy either might be two guys you want their event us kind of hope that that it's not taken right one pick ahead of you. But it gives you an opportunity to get to quality players real quick. I think too when we're talking about need, and again is probably one of my last points is the chiefs were rumored to have Ronald Darby in the building cheat beach confirmed today that he was in the building and they were interested in Jason Barrett. And he also got signed. I think they're going to add another cornerback in some fashion. Probably by the time. You're listening to this. We're gonna put on our podcast channel by the end of the weekend so on and so forth. So hopefully by the time they get to the draft. I mean, I can't see how they're going to add a supreme edge rusher. But may be the only main need or they trade up for that. And then you could still kind of say, well, what are they gonna do from here? Yeah. If the cheeser able to. To to grab Ronald Darby. If everything goes right in the chiefs wind up grabbing Ronald Darby today or tomorrow, it really it really gives them some some flexibility, some comfort some ability to kind of know exactly where they need to target where they need to attack because you know, if they don't grab another corner and really run Darby's probably the best value out there. I mean, there's a lot of slot corner types that are still rookie year in the by provable. Focus in sixty when Marcus wanted to through for the league. But he's pro football focus is were geared I-, Marcus those third. He's great football player. And if he's healthy, I mean, he could be an immense value. But you know, you gotta lock up a guy like that. So you have a little bit more flexibly. So you can be a little bit more aggressive to go grab, you know, your edge guy 'cause you have a clear defining go grab him. And then you don't have to be as nervous or panic. Your aggressive with your second round pick or to to try to move up and get a corner you love to like Darby's kind of a key cog in how this off season will go I think because he's. He's a great player in. He really does help you solve that cornerback problem significantly the one thing we haven't seen like we did last year. Sammy Watkins brought in again, you need depth for toys for Patrick Mahomes, unless you expect him to elevate the level of play of others. We've all seen just defensive signings in free agency. Does this open things up more maybe in the draft to take a look at skill positions. Because I don't second round third round loaded and wide receivers. I I didn't. I think it kind of just depends on you know, what they're doing what they have to do to go up and get their guys on defense because there is you're right being there's some great pass catcher options in that round two range. Both tied ends in wide receivers. They could get really good value. If they're not if they don't have to sell the farm to move up to get a guy that they love at that the edge position, for instance. So there's so much up in the air. There's a lot of fun. This is the most fun time of year because it's just speculation season playing with scenarios in your head Christmas every oh, yeah. And the chiefs have never been right here. They're right there. There. You know? Usually you feel pretty good about the next season since Andy Reid Arab begin. But this year, you really feel like you can grab the Super Bowl right there. This has been the euro head pride free agency special. Make sure you check out your head pride dot com forward. The latest Pete Sweeney kit Swanson, myself, gee, Brinkley, Jillian, Carol cerrell up next. My name is Spencer home by name is Jason Kurt. My name is Ryan nanny, we combined. We form the shutdown full Tron keep telling you this forecast is technically college football podcast. 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The 75O: Tyrone trouble, how Cobb fits in, and free agency thoughts so far

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The 75O: Tyrone trouble, how Cobb fits in, and free agency thoughts so far

"Welcome back to the seven five. Oh, and you're oh ours. You show us your seven five Mr. two time SuperBowl champion college football hall of Famer and the first person in the history of the world to ever get his entire bracket. Correct. Tony Casillas, Tony. How you doing today? I'm doing great, by the way, this is March madness. But what you just said, I wonder what my odds of of doing. I think I probably have a better chance of winning the Powerball lottery worth one hundred million than I do getting every team perfect on my bracket. But this is also known as the bracket of destruction. Well, 'cause never really there's going to be something destroyed which it starts in is going to be destroyed. And it's going to be a bracket BUSTER, I agree with you. I filled out three brackets myself. And I don't know does one buffet still do the million dollars for thank so. Right. So I've I've opened they wanted this. I've talked about this before like at some point. Right. It will happen at some point. We will see a perfect brag, I feel like it's you know, we we've seen robots on Mars. You know what I mean? Like at some point we have to see a perfect bracket. I guess I don't know not my lifetime and probably going to just go out on probably not even land. But I'm just going to say probably on your lifetime. And I'd have to, you know, go used to Google device to find this out. I don't know if it's ever been done. Maybe. It's always an interesting conversation. I kinda cool this RJ to we start doing this term a challenge is it's kind of like fantasy football me. You know, a lot of people don't watch college basketball until now everyone feels out of bracket at your office. You know? Yeah. Party the, you know, the the network he worked for and you know, just other different ways known it. So it's kind of fancy football. Everybody has a fantasy team whether you watch football or not because it's kinda, you know, it's very enticing intriguing, and it's kind of a cool thing during March. I am I just looked it up and fit let me guess, let me guess. It's been done one time. It has never been done. Okay. You go. The odds or figured out by Ron cly, a professor from Duke University of all places. Now, I did not know what this number was called. If I'm being fully, honest, all I can tell you is there are six commas involved. So the odds of a perfect bracket are one in nine point two Quin tilles Quinton. Stop it. Stop it trillion because I've heard that used before. But yeah. In other words, it's it's not going to be ever ever be done. So who do you have one at all? I don't know. Well, no, you don't have it several times it starts what eleven thirty. Right. So my I got I got Michigan state plane begins AGA, and I got Virginia play North Carolina. And don't ask me how I got there. I just kind of went with the seeds, and I guess I bet against the sender relatives. But as I said, there's going to be a high seat win, you know, or you know, how that goes or low seed in then I got I got North Carolina and a win at all. So you've got you said, Michigan state and Gonzaga and in Virginia plan, North Carolina. That's my final four, and I got North Carolina winning it. All okay. So we're fifty percents in potty go I've got three brackets. But I'm a big believer. That you gotta have the same. Final four. You know, you can have some different things to get there. Whatever you gotta same four. If you do multiple brackets, I have Duke, Gonzaga Virginia, and I've got the Kentucky. Wildcats just because Kentucky Kentucky beat North Carolina right in the sweet six on the elite eight I think that that will be the game of the terminal. I'm looking forward to it. I'm a little bit partial and being honest. I think I said the other day the radio station. I do some stuff for we're all in charge of a conference. And I drew the SEC it just means more. So I couldn't I couldn't have an honest c team. I couldn't have four on teams in the final four had to slow. It's funny. You mention that I got home Amada playing ole miss. That's refers that's their game the first matchup or their game in the tournament and them I had to bet against mama modern. I got old miss beat them. It's it's a nine eight seat teams. But. I've been watch big twelve this year for some reason I picked I wanna still have some time. So maybe taught me out. Taught me off the cliff, and we'll see what I need to do eight nine matchups as well. As the five twelve matchups. Those are always the weird ones. Yeah. But it's a different final four last shows in San Antonio. So we had a lot of fun with it. So it will be interesting to see how it goes down to be a fun weekend fun time in sports, obviously a lot coming up or getting closer to the masters. We're getting close to some good fights NBA playoffs and shell playoffs. That's your Cup of tea and NFL for agency. Rolls on Tony. And look, I I wasn't smashing the panic. But I was addressing the Cowboys needed makes moose and my point was that they only have one pip at fifty eight in the top sixty and you can of all I'm not trying to cut you off partner. But there was an outcry the last couple of weeks by you, try. I don't know if you're getting a little. I would say not concerned or the lack of the activity for the Cowboys. But the last couple of weeks you've been you've been a little outspoken about the lack of activity, and if you follow you on Twitter, man. Well, my my more to relax on the first week. When free agency started my thought process has just been from a place of if it were me, what would I do? And like I said before if it were me, I didn't have a first round draft pick. And I knew that my job could be on the line. I would be pretty aggressive because I I would want to go down swinging. You know what I mean? And so I found it perplexing. But the Cowboys Tony landed there, I guess you'd call it big outside free agent this week Randall Cobb Randall Cobb is now member of the Dallas Cowboys is he an upgrade over call. I saw you had a tweet about this. Yeah. I think so I think when you look at the statistics, and here's what I really like about it is I like the relationship. He played. Drafted and twenty eleven he's played with the green Packers techy badly when. Yeah. There you go. That's probably why you pick untucked, it'd be North Carolina come on. There's always gotta be some reason the irony that you possess. But here's the thing that I'm excited about and think people should be excited about you. Really don't talk about this. But I just like the relationship that he's had in the past with the hall of fame hall of fame quarterback Aaron Rodgers. And you know, whenever you have a quarterback of Aaron Rodgers statue come out on social media, and is really just pay respect to him and wishing great things future. I mean, that's a lot of respect. And you really got admire Aaron Rodgers it made a lot of guys gone through free agency. And I'll mention to catch them from Pittsburgh lady on bell and Tonio Brown. They wouldn't come out. And I said been Rothlisberger probably wouldn't do that same type of tribute. So my point is I like the. Oh relationship each had their Rogers because Ann Rogers made him a better receiver. I mean, he is he had the two thousand fourteen went to the Pro Bowl at twelve hundred yards. Passing yards and just a Pro Bowl year. So here's difference. The interesting dynamic, which I'm really wanna see as will will in Randall Cobb. I mean, certainly into wanna deal. Well, he may that Prescott better quarterback because I think we've seen Aaron Rodgers make him a better receive him. And there's no argument there. I mean, he is he's a much better for back than that Prescott. Some interesting looking at but I think it's a tremendous opportunity for the Cowboys. It's an upgrade from Kobe's nothing against called Beasley. But not that people are gonna forget about him. But I think he has got a lot of skills. He's obviously older. But I think he's got a lot more to bring not just as a player, but everything else that comes with him. But that relationship Redan Rogers and Green Bay. It's really weird. We're reaching the point. I'm reaching the point where we talk about random Cobb. He's older player. He's twenty eight and that's younger than I am so depressing but younger than you are. Yeah. Yes. I'm twenty mile. The band. I like I like where you headed with this though. And so I I went to the Spurs game on Wednesday night. They won nine in a row, and then my wife, and I showed up and they lost. So. But it could be worse. It could be the Mavericks which six twenty eight on the road, and they got beat last night by Portland, so consider your lessons. That's true. But so Randall reminds me, and if your Spurs fan listening think maybe you'll get this Patty mills Patty mills is kind of the Spurs did bring Markle Bill Elliott back this season. But patties the last guy remaining that's wanna change ship of the Spurs and the Spurs have this thing that they call corporate knowledge and all corporate knowledge is an understanding of the Spurs culture in the way, hop works. And you need that guy that understands the corporate knowledge to pass it on to the younger players Derek whites and the Brin Forbes's of the world. And I think Randall cops that guy. I mean, he's he's been there. He seen it. He's done it like you're saying he's played at a high level with a hall of fame quarterback and Aaron Rodgers he's plans, I'm really big football games. He's made some really big catches. I think that the Cowboys to Tijuana playoff game. But you know, ran. Uh-huh. Cobs again, it's been an NFC championship game. They have he knows what it's like to lose a game with the Super Bowl on the line. And that's a really painful thing. And so I think that that's a really really valuable lesson to to have in the locker room from a guy that while he is older. He's only twenty eight you know, they're not bringing in Jason Witten again, it's thirty plus and really close to time. And this is this is really good, especially for a wide receiver group. I wrote about this this week to be it's been massively shaken up. I mean a year ago they signed Alan Hearns. And he was joining Dez Terrence and coal. And now all of a sudden, you've got a Mari you've got galloping, and you've got Randall Cobb the entire room is different. And it was kind of this cast of strangers. But now, I think they're tight now, they're they're great friends and family now, and you bring in this guy. Good mix of people or here's the thing. And excuse me, I'm not trying to put him in the category to spend. So but you mentioned twenty but he's he's a season veteran on a team. Arguably one of the youngest teams. National Football League. So I think that adds a lot to it. And I started thinking about this. I started Cleveland with all their the moves that they may not see I started looking the Cowboys even core. And you know, I don't wanna get ahead of myself. I don't wanna do this overreaction on how good they look. But when you look at who they have now compared to last year and we've saying one year of Amari Cooper, Alan Hearns, we save on Austin by and Michael Gallup. And now you add Randall Cobb, I would say looks looks pretty good as far as depth, and this really kind of the names. So you look at that that have been proven commodities, and I kind of liked the direction going and then you add Jason win. This may be a one year, and you know, one year opportunity for the Cowboys to really take advantage of the depth that they have at those positions because in the past counted on likes Terrance Williams and some players really just didn't really pan. Out. Now when you look at what they've done and going out and signing someone like Randall Cobb to one year, we're five million dollars. I think now sudden you know, you look at where they're at. And they look pretty good at the wide receiver position. I think the important thing is they're versatile. Now. I mean, there receiver trail era that if on the way it looked at least before everything happened was you had Dez and it was indisputed. He was he was your was your ex player. You had ten. He was your y player you had call. He was your sock. That was it that was the only way you function. And so now your your primary guys Amari Gallup in Cobb. They can all play everywhere. I mean Cobb could play outside can play the slog complete slot. Allen Hearns compla- the slot. And so I mean, we heard the term Dak friendlier ago. This feels that friendly this feels you know malleable, this feels I mean, I think the best way a year ago the Cowboys receivers or a group that could only to step that was the only dance they knew now they can salsa they can do. Rang gay. They can do the CIA, you know, they can do all sorts of different dances. And that's a really good thing to have for an offense and some creativity. Well, it's good to have that dance tree. But also the route tree that they have and again ran lacob tremendous underneath receiver. And and you mentioned the versatility that they have you can put, you know, Alan Hearns, you can put on Austin in the slot, and you can move Randall Cobb around. And I think that I think experience, and I think sometimes when you go to team I remember going through free agency and leaving Dallas and going to Kansas City, but ended up playing in New York. It was just a whole process going somewhere where you really feel good about where you're going, but it's wide receiver. I think Dak to really really put himself in different level. I think this is good for him and nothing against beach. I think busy did a tremendous job. And we mentioned this. I mean, you're talking about a guy that really didn't know if he wanted to play football rookie year, and then came back, and I mean look at him he signed a contract. Buffalo. But this is looks good and fills good. And again, I just can't reiterate the relationship that a player has was someone like Aaron Rodgers. I mean that is that brings a lot of intangible things, you know. You know? I hadn't really connected the dots. Until we set it right now. I believe that with you know, Kobe's Lee departing not necessarily Randall arriving. I believe that. There are no longer any receivers on the team. I haven't fact check this that caught a pass from Tony Romo. Call might have been the last man standing in that department. So a lot of changes happen pretty quickly. You mentioned it. I was I was critical of the Cowboys. And I think that that was fair. But I do like this move to one year deal. It does allow them kinda like Jason win tight end. This duct tape. This duct tape on the Slough position. The way Jason on is on titan. Now, you don't have to adjust that position with your second or third round pick. Now, you kick that can down the road in defensive tackle the about you need to safety, really bad. It make sense. Those would be a first two picks. I like this move because it helps you get by to a draft and twenty twenty what you do have a first round draft pick, and you can make a little bit more moves. I think you're off. You're you're set. I mean, you had maybe try to bring some death that the offense in line position. I know it's all about injuries. Hopefully, Travis Frederick will be healthy this year and come back from that, you know, that that mean to sit deficiency disease he had last year in come back full speed. So I think on on offense. You're you're set. I mean, when you agree with that certainly I mean when when Cobb is on the field, you have what eight pro bowlers. I mean, you have a Mari Cobb Witten Dag Zeke, and then Travis tyrant and Zach eight out of your Levin would be starters Pro Bowl or something. That's really really impressive. Although I mean, let Randall earned a Pro Bowl, and we shouldn't take that away from him. But he owned one. He's a one time. Pro I still on his resume. I mean, I'm just trying for a slot receiver at that position. I mean, it wasn't really bonafide. And here's the thing about this. Also, I think about Green Bay can you really really think, and it kind of reminds me somewhat of I would say New England, and maybe I'm describing Streit's little little farther. But think about the greatest receivers played for the Green Bay Packers in this. It's always. Yeah. Or, you know, you really there's not I think Donald driver. You look Jordy Nelson. You go back until Greg jester. Yeah. Greg Jennings, but in Randall Cobb and just go through the history of the Green Bay Packers even before an Raj with Brett Farr, collectively they made each other better. And there's this really wanted to really stands out because they were all good because you know, what they had good quarterback. So again, maybe it's a combination relationship because I think that and I really think that that's something that we won't see. See that people won't recognize Rockaway. But maybe it's kind of like a Mark Cooper when he came in some similarities, they seem to me that they adapt in chemistry was happened right away. I think it's a good move all around. Are you happy? I'm really happy. I think this was you know, I don't wanna say what happy dance I told you patients this way 'til week to in this this well this works out. So I'll say it was very smart, obviously. But it wasn't one hundred percents. I would say was ninety five percents mart and five percent lucky because you know, on day one free agency, the Cowboys did not know beyond a shadow of doubt that Randall Cobb available that we can half later. They lucked out that, you know, maybe he tested the market. It wasn't. What did I was going to be whatever I mean things fell into place in the right way and good for them. Maybe they trusted that. And they were right. And that's why I said, I mean, if you want to be Aron about something and you end up pulling off, and you wanna rub it in my face. I'll be the first one to say you were right. And I was wrong. And I'm very glad that that's the case when it comes to slot receiver. They still have needs along the defensive line and it safety and speaking of the defensive line, Tony. So their their situation at pass rusher is a little bit muddled. Now, you've got DeMarcus Lawrence who you're in a contractual dispute with is on the franchise tag for what it's worth you. Have Randy Gregory who is suspended indefinitely? Don't know what's going to come of that. And now you Tyrone graph erred who if Lawrence, and Gregory are both gone is technically your best pass rusher. TMZ reporting this week that last Friday night or last Friday, rather Tyrone was at an establishment a local watering hole in Florida the sunshine state, right? And and got into a bit of tussle there some video we put this all over blogging dot com. You haven't seen it and go check it out the first video that dropped Tony with outside of these Schmidt. And it appeared to be Tyrone shoving what looked like actual police officers. I was kind of grainy kind of blurry kind of hard to make out. And then the video came out of what went on inside and Tyrone a one man wrecking crew just all over like six different bouncers. The video is is aggressive immune is that the most graphic thing we've ever seen. No. But it is aggressive. It certainly unbecoming of a captain on a team who preaches a right kind of guy mantra. And so I think there's a possibility to Tarrant Crawford could be suspended your thoughts on on another defensive lineman. Getting in trouble the hot, boys. I'm not gonna jump all over him. Because I I met Tyrone about four years ago before he signed signed a really I think that was right before the contract shine and didn't like the fall of twenty fifteen. Yeah. And so it was unaccustomed to that. In the reason why I'm not going to be negative about this. Because. It's it involves something that again, he shouldn't have acted that way. And I understand when you go out into public and again, the air of the social media with phones everyone's going to see it. But it's the judgment thing. You put yourself into you go out in testosterone fine. And I'm sure there was alcohol involved you're Panama City, and I'm going to say that's probably the week spring break. And if anybody's annoying thing about Panama City during spring break this plays it. Yeah. Crazy. Okay. But I am surprised that he would have that type of behavior because he is kind of a guy that. Is really cognizant. I would say just the example he sets. But again, you you go out with a bunch of buddies six dudes and you're out having a good time. And there's always going to be someone in the bar, then what's the challenge? Because you're they may not be big in stature. But it's always a do that they're going to challenge the biggest guy in the bar. I mean, we've heard that before. But I just want to let this kind of settled see what happens. Yes. Without a doubt. Then I saw kind of the skewed part were supposedly shove the police officer. Here's what I'm gonna say. There was no arrest mate. Correct. Correct. That's correct. So I'm gonna use the I'm gonna go by our legal system and say I'm gonna use their judgment. If nothing was done in there illegally. I Robert Kraft. I mean, by the way, he's trying to that's a whole. A whole different. I know. I don't know. Why even brought that in the whole -nology Tyrone across Florida? Yeah. But but anyway, my point is that there was no arrest. There was nothing done illegal. Yes. Guys got away. But we're going to run with that. And TMZ. It's it's amazing. The TMZ gets information. I, but I mean, they got people on the payroll everywhere. But my, but my point is is that I'm not going to crucify him because there was no arrest. Yeah. I was bad judgment was out this buddies. You know, they probably somebody said something, and you know, you have a couple of shots, tequila, or licorice. We all know, we have a bad reaction. But gin in that environment is professional athlete with this. Bullseye your six four three hundred and ten pounds, and people know you play for the Dallas Cowboys or NFL player. They're going to tag nights. You right. Yeah. So I was surprised that he reacted that way. But again, if nothing was done at the. NFL's not gonna do anything about it. I'm I'm just going to go by what the legal system says, you know, I think that's fair and logical and rational. But what I will say we we've seen many incidents with NFL players where the legal system has has has said that there's no wrongdoing that went on here and the NFL decides to suspend them. Anyway, look, I mean, my take on this. And I've talked about this a little bit already. But I mean is it is it good? No, it's bad. I mean at the very least, it's bad. It's not desirable. This is again, not becoming it's frustrating. I think for Cowboys fans does it mean tyrone's idiot. No, I mean, you know, the guy slipped up here. I think that's really obvious. The guy generally is a very reliable person, very reliable leader. Remember back against the buccaneers. When he got hurt and everybody ran out there. I mean, he he is a scary moment it was. And I think that that was proof of just how big of a party is of this team. I mean, he's deserving of that seed that he does we're on. His chest. This was not a good moment. And I think Tyrone would admit that. I don't see let me ask you this. So you go into board got spore, your buddies, and this issues, this your example, you go to twin peaks, and I don't know where you're at and four or five your buddy start getting in a fight. And next thing. You know, you see guys beating them up. You're probably going to react to that. You're probably going to be a good friend and say, look, I got your back. Maybe that's what happened. I don't know. Sure. I mean. No. But there's some ability to that. Yeah. Yeah. But I think you hit the point you hit the nail right on the head. Is that here we are in the offseason? We don't wanna hear a peep out of someone doing something off the field. And here we go with Tyrone Crawford of all people most of the captain of the team, and you think that wouldn't put himself in that. But obviously was vulnerable state. I've never been there. I know that shocking. I've never been a professional athlete. So and I what you'd have my back in a bar, dude. If someone threw down seven five we're going down. If we're going down we're going down in flames. What I mean? But so you've said before, you know, you're so grateful that social media didn't exist in the day that you were playing, and I think anybody played then would agree with that. But I think that you were certainly in moments where you knew, you know, what it would it wouldn't make total sense for me to do this in this example, and I'm not saying you, but in this example, if he was gonna tag it makes sense to snap at that. Because anybody would but as a professional athlete, the the reality is you're held to a higher standard, you're held a public standard. And if you do something wrong, and I not professional athlete something wrong. No one's gonna care that I did. But everyone's gonna without a doubt. I mean, that's the that's totally understood that this whole, you know, the process and being impressed athlete. There's a lot of things that you know, that apply to comply with someone else. Because again, that's that moment, you know, people are looking for the opportunity to maybe antagonize. Yes. You to hit them. And then next thing, you know, what you have a lawsuit and etc. Etc. And yeah, I think I don't condone his actions not whatsoever. I mean, you got to be able to walk away. So okay. Let's go. Let's go and not really get into a physical altercation. But I guess again, it's. I wouldn't store came out. I thought it was just one of the fake news. You know, someone, you know, posting fake news out there, and it's click on it. And they're trying to sell. It's an ad, you know, but I was really surprised it was Tyron tie van. I think that this is a unpopular opinion. It makes me feel for Jason Garrett. I mean, it really does we've talked about how the Cowboys have had legitimate defensive players spend that every season to begin the season's twenty fourteen. And now there are dealing with degree suspension. They're already dealing with not being able to get the Marcus on tie-down long-term contra. And now, you know, if you're Jason Garrett, you know, Dez Bryant coined the term Garrett guys, you know, if there's a defensive line to guy it's Crawford. That's why he is a captain and Jason get your thinking because people because guys make good decisions, and they're not Trump there. Jason Garrett guy. That's desert term, not mine. I'm just you know. Has its own definition in the world. That does Brian was on shirt. I'll I'm saying is that you know, Tyrone is definitely someone that Jason can depend on. Right. I mean because he is a captain for this team. Granted that is a process that is democratic and Jason good doesn't vote for captains. But and Jason Garrett your thinking man, I already got all this going on now. Taryn crawford. Tarot never doesn't didn't. Now, I'm dealing with Taryn Crawford problems. That would suck. I mean that would really really sucked to have to deal with that just goes to show that you can't control the situations grown Asman. I mean, they're look I mean, we all like to go out and have a good time and at one time or another risvan -able, and it seems like when that time comes guess what they're out there and taking advantage of it and you make the room decision. And that's the thing about it. Always always be cognizant of your surroundings. And I really at times I've mentioned this on our show. Before time after time. Yes, it's a social media's benefit for your brand. And everything else that goes along with it. But is sin as you do something as soon as you do something that's outta line? Guess what all met were passing on a man. The negatively the people out there waiting for something. Bad the waiting for something bad troll. Police are just waiting for you to mess up and bam. They're pounds on my whole life. My dad has he's had a few things. But one of them has been one, okay crap will wipe out a million Atta boys, and that's kind of what Tyrone Crawford. The guys got in a million Atta boys in his NFL career. And he's got one crap. Tony this is not Cowboys related, but one crap I take that all day long career of twelve years, or especially in this this landscaper social media now, I agree. So a very quick left. Turn for a moment. Okay. This is not cabbage related. But you know, we talk about life a little bit of not breaking news, but a little bit. Some interesting dropped on the time line while we were recording. And that's this other sausages made Jay Glazer who I reported that he was hearing Odal Beckham's trade talks. He wrote about it in the athletes and the world crucified him. All you're stupid. You don't know anything. And then lo and behold Doug is traded. So now, I think if Jay Glazer says something, you gotta listen, and he wrote this morning on Thursday morning in the athlete. We know that tyreek hill chiefs wide receiver is facing some legal issues of his own. Wow. That's but Jay Glazer wrote on a separate note. Even if none of this happened there were questions in Kansas City about whether they could re-sign -tary kill. I heard some rumblings of the started free agency that his name was being thrown about in trade talks. But at the time thought it had to do with his contract more than anything else. I think this one will take a little while to play out. So slowly interesting Jay Glazer, you know, drop a little little bump not a big bomb, but a little while I forgot about the whole the incident the entire kill when he was in college the domestic violence air. And now he's teams. Yeah. Now, he's got this latest one. And so I mean, I guess you got to categorize players. You'll things that they do off the field and remained. This is very punitive is not sound like going into place, and with your buddies and all of a sudden, it's an altercation and very different from the time. Yeah. So I think that that's the thing when I look at different situations. It's not a double standard is just what the I guess what the crime is. I hate to say crime. But whatever the incident may be but tire kill and this kind of the whole deal with Karima cream haunt who's now with the Cleveland Cleveland Browns, and those are things that are non tolerable. I mean, you cannot tolerate things like this it continued to happen players. I don't care how great tyreek hill is. And this is definitely an eyesore. It will be interesting given the way the chiefs organization handled the Kareem hunt situation. Because you could argue there's a precedent. Now. You know, if you're you know, during the cream hunting. There's this message of we we don't have any tolerance for this. Bob, la. So now, what do you do? You know what I mean? Do you have tolerance because it's tyreek hill. He's better football player. Who knows a former teammate both of them. Both Kareem hunt in Tara kill. Tony is Eric berry who visited with the Dallas Cowboys this week. Now you and I would tape in this Thursday morning. So if you're listening, and Eric berry has a home by that time apologies. But as of now Eric berry remains on sign. We haven't heard of him visiting with any team in particular outside of the Dallas Cowboys. Do you think this happens? And if it does how good would it be? Well, Eric berry to me. He's overcome a lot of the obstacles share no had had the cancer bat fought cancer and beat that has had a tremendous career at Kansas City, but has had to navigate through some injuries which kept him off the field in the last two years. He's played. Yeah. And so I don't know think that you know, you still again, it's it's what what you got to pay and what he wants. And I think just the fact that you have air berry for I don't know how many games I think it's worth I would say the risk because he is a proven commodity in hopefully bet against it. He doesn't get injured. And and again, they have death that that position. So in I think that you know, I were texting back and forth talking about him. And that was your your main concern is durability. Is it going to be able to stay healthy? Well, I think that you kind of way that your choice in your decision based on what you're gonna pay him. And and everything that goes along. Put an incentive contract labor contract. But yeah, I don't have any problem at all with them bringing in someone like him. Because again, he's he's proven it. And the biggest question is can stay on the field. You know? I mean, there's no question. He's a lottery ticket right now. I mean, 'cause you know, no disrespect Randall Cobb if you sign Eric berry, he has the most potential of any free agent that you could bring it because this is if things break, this is an all pro type of talent assuming he plays to his potential. It doesn't get hurt. Whatever I think it would be fascinating to watch. Eric berry play under Chris Rashard. I think it'll be fascinating to watch him in the same secondaries Byron Jones, I think will be huge the development of woods and Jeff heath. I mean, everybody involved. I mean, Eric berry is is that kind of guy that you mentioned didn't play with air and Rogers, but has has done things at a high level for a long time for what is regarded as a great organization in the chiefs. I don't know if it happened. So I mean, the fact that he he left the Cowboys of that deal. I don't think is is panic or the, but he doesn't have a deal, and you know, maybe the longer that it doesn't have a deal the more. He considers you know, what the Cowboys said this couch said that and kudos by the way to Cowboys for doing all of their medical checks on him. Because this is a guy with a checkered injury history. Yeah. And I think he's going to visit these visit other he's going to visit other teams sorry about that was Eric berry. Oh, good. Those things happen on seven. But you know, what when you when you look it. And he's he's going to he's going to visit other teams in ill. I think the Cowboys were kinda see what other teams are doing. And and he'll maybe be made an offer by other team. And he's he's he's you know, has yet the Bizet, and I think this kind of way that choice because again, we knew that we talked about they're all Thomas sweepstakes. We knew that. I just knew that he was out of their money week. He wanted to much money. And so I think this kind of falls in place, and what they're wanting to spend. And again, if he stays healthy, he's able to as you just mentioned mentor and be part of this whole rotation with the back end Christmas arch dynamic, I think it's a win win situation for the Cowboys and Eric berry, you know, so many people talk about you know, he wants to come play for the star and all this mumbo jumbo. I don't buy. That. But what I do buy to some effect is if I'm Eric berry and see like to do. So I have to pretend to find if I'm Jay some good if I'm whoever if I'm Eric berry. First of all, I'm not calling. Tony, you know in the morning. I'm sending Metaxas in. So we need to teach your phone mannerisms. But. If I'm Eric berry. I obviously want to regain the perception that I'm very good safety. I want to regain some national attention. I don't want to just disappear which I think if he goes to the wrong team has the tendency to do because he's an older player because there's a lot of young prominence safeties emerging you look at certainly. Jamal Adams in New York. You certainly look at the state of safety game is really interesting in the NFL Derwin James in Los Angeles. But anyway, if I'm at berry, and I want to regain some attention on myself. Yeah. I'll go play for the Cowboys play on prime time television six times a year, you know, be essentially on prime time television every Sunday afternoon on FOX. I mean, I'll go play for the biggest stage and have migrated season. And then next year, I will get paid. I mean, we've seen that happen. I'm not saying that the surefire thing, and I don't buy that one hundred percent, but I do buy that that is a real potential implication. Well, I mean, I'll meet you halfway on that. I think since the fact that he's thirty years old and had that achilles. Ruptured achilles tendon and twenty seventeen and still having some ramifications issues with that I don't know will ever get back to that type of form they had maybe a couple years ago. But certainly, I think that, you know, hasn't played a lot of names. I don't think is body is physically battered again, he beat cancer, and he's tough. And I think you have to weigh that also. But if they can get in again, I don't know. I mean, he can expect to be paid a lot of money ball, though, I will say this. He's one of the better free agents outright out on the market right now consider what he was injured last year in the last couple of years only played three games. So I think that that's the that's the question. You gotta ask the valuation process. And you know, how you look at him. You you have your medical doctors checking mound and see where he's at. And and. And sometimes maybe some other teams look into it too much. And if you see a different way, then maybe let's let's go and bring him in. Let's let's sign into one year rental and in the advantage. If he plays good this year, we'll give them incentives, and we'll see where this goes. But I don't think that the Cowboys needed to settle for just anybody right now. And if they get into that just to have a knee guy a name and Eric berry as I mentioned has tremendous resume. But I just don't want them what they want to settle for just the fact that we need somebody. It's got to be someone that's gonna make a contribution. You know? I think when you say that I think a lot of people, I don't think this case. But a lot of people feel like they're renting a lot of places. They're not. But I we did a QNA on the site on Wednesday, by the way, Tony we've got a tweet on late on Wednesday night. I don't know if you saw this. It was incredible looking for as as I talk. Justin Thomas, not the PGA tour player, but on Twitter, JT Kobo tweeted, it you, and I and said he was listening to seven five. Oh, and his daughter got in the car and said why is the rock talking about the Cowboys? And just and said, I told her that's Tony Casillas, but they do sound like so well, hopefully, I think the rock is pronunciations a little better. But I've been told maybe the monotone voice and everything, but that's a appreciate the compliment. Hey, I'm a big I'm a big rock fan favorite rock movie game plan, really. I choice. The two-third. I good. All right. I wasn't let me just disappointed. Skyscraper. Yeah. But you know, what that movie look like, I've never watched ballers honest, I need to but I love on ever watch baller. But I I've I've seen entrees like ten times. I watch it every spring. It's kind of like a tradition of mine kind of football. Von throws. Yeah. But but skyscraper looked like a movie that Vince chase from entourage would be. That's exactly what it looked like. Yeah. Look like cheesy like super action, whatever movie. So that was great. But so cool shout out to Joe Justin Thomas, Joe Thomas, Cleveland, maybe he was going to give me some Goth lessons and tips on how to improve my really bad golf game short game. Look back to the rental thing. I was asked to question during the BT QNA if you could draft a player at fifty eight overall, maybe this facts, your berry decision, and you could have defensive tackle or safety, and you knew and this is stupid hypothetical or so we're not stupid. And you knew they were going to be the same talent. Call it eighty five overall player, you know, it was going to be eighty five overall defensive tackle or eighty-five overall safety. What would you choose? If I look in the crystal ball. This guy is going to be a Bollard. You knew you knew that he was maybe not a bother but a good player but good contributing player. And you knew it was going to be the same level of talent. Whether it was a defensive tackle or safety. And so what would you take? I would take a defense attack. I take the guy up front because a really is. You know, my perspective as a player, I just know how the both things go hand in hand with the you know, the secondary and the guys from. Complement each other. And it's really it's hard to find a really versatile dude that can do both like play the Ron and really be really good pass rusher and give you some push up the metal. And I think the guys that they have a mainly Collins and some of the guys that they have there now. Anton woods, there's some lunch pail guys in there and made some contributions, but you really need to find someone and, cultivate, them and really make them. I'm not even going to mention his name because it's not worth mentioned on a shell. And you know, who I'm talking about this no longer here. The rock though. No that's not on the number for defensive lineman, windy at Miami. Right. Do not compare. Together. Okay. See you may mention his name that so, but that guy was kinda close as the closest thing to versatile guy that you know, if you just hope and pray that look and get your crap together, let's make this work. And so it's hard to find those two guys. But I think yeah. Without a doubt. We I think it really really versatile defensive tackle inside his heart of the find a really ball hawking safety, in my opinion. Maybe I'm a little biased. But I think if you ask a lot of people because again, it's were they complement each other. You know in doing some thinking here there's there are two positions at the Cowboys have not devoted a first or second round draft pick to since two thousand ten I want to say so looking at that so Cowboys draft since two thousand ten first and second on draft picks, they devoted at least a first dzafic wide receiver cause desert. I. Traffic offense of line, obviously, they're devoted. Tons of Sean jaffrey's even tied in got a second round draft pick that was governor Escobar twenty thirteen running back, obviously Zeke was was the fourth overall pick. They have not devoted a first or second draft pick to quarterback. They found Dak on the fourth round on the defensive side of the ball edge rusher is they have devoted a couple of second round draft picks Marcus Lawrence Randy, Gregory, porno BAC, we saw them draft. Byron Jones in the first she to lose in the second safety, you could kind of call that Byron Jones because that's where they played him initially. So that's kind of a weird one linebacker. They have spent some second round draft picks on Sean Lee, Bruce Carter and Smith they have not spent a first or second on Jack on defensive tackle. That's just not something that they do. And I really you. I mean, you've mentioned lunch pail guys and nothing against guys. They're surly great at every football team needs one of those. Me cons is great Antoine. Woods. Is this kind of rising? You know story that everybody really really loves rate season and Rodman Ellie that's his thing. I mean, he takes these casts it off dudes and turns them into legitimate players. And they go get paid somewhere else. Give him give him an elite talent. I'm not saying that Antoine's nine elite, but give him a not a blue chip prospect. But give him somebody, you know, who's legitimately talented and again nothing against anybody else. But give him if he can make these cast-offs fantastic. What could he do with a more polished pedigree type player? And look, I think talk, oh, Charlton is a good example. He was drafted as a defensive end. But you know, I I'm really for the the the notion of maybe moving him inside and only doesn't want to hear that phone coach. But look, I don't think and I think that was a question of him. I wanna stop you. Because why why wouldn't you wanna? To do that from somebody who's been there. Because I think that everybody knows you got to be a full grown, man. The play inside. That's Z. Right. That's the reason. I mean you talking about getting banged and double teams, and you're not alleman island anymore. It's not it's not sexy. You're not. Rusher. It's it's a it's a heavyweight fight every snap. Okay. And look, I think he doesn't. And I think we talked about this on our show someone asked him about it. And I guess he was sending stuff out on social media, and I'm working out and everything. But yeah, I think that that was probably the question, Mark. And what I've heard from people, you know, physically he's a he looks great. But he doesn't have the speed of a guy like Agassi DeMarcus Lawrence doesn't have the burst off the edge. So I think maybe movement side utilize speed and athleticism inside which is not comparable to someone DeMarcus on play outside and the edge is really really fast like a monta Montaigue, sweat or someone like that utilize him and put him inside. And then now you get the question markers. Are you? You're gonna put on the edge. So to me in time on Crawford is inside, dude. He's not an out. Side guy. I mean, he's really he's. Yeah. So he served as debt, but and he's a great swing man, and you can count on him. But I would experiment with with taco Charlton inside that might be a home for him, and you know, letting play three technique. Let him get on the field and use a speed inside as opposed to outside where you have to have really really really good speed off the edge. His his speed outside is not elite. He's he's he's Mr. spin move. That's all he is. But click him inside all of a sudden that speed suddenly becomes elite for defensive tackle. Maybe not leap, but very very good. Yeah. Yeah. I compare it to play with Leon lead. And Leon Lett was a six eight and discipline, dude. And that dude got up, Phil. He was so fast. He was on block -able. So I mean, you USA guy inside in Ron Rodman airy defense that at least experience sparing with him there. And look he's not gonna be happy. But he's gonna have to find a way to stay on the field and make a contribution. That's why they drafted him in the first round to this point hasn't panned out. I think I like the idea personally because I agree with you. I think that maybe taco could flourish more detached over as defensive end. However, given the state of Cowboys defensive ends. I don't think you can afford to kick inside. We'll have to keep him having Eric Bury's. That's taco. He's he's upset. You know? I'm working to phones this morning. I'm really, I'm really working phones. I just got a text message from Jason Geert and. He's five on the seven five. Oh news. I like your idea. I need you to start to work with the taco Charlton and developing into a full grown man inside. You know, I think that that's a valuable piece of information because everybody here's you know, all they should kick him inside. But he probably wouldn't want that the reason why and the it's unfortunate. I saw it was caterer apples and the DASA had a tweet kind of. She described tacos, I seasons as whole home. I that's that's been kind of. That's being really nice calling them. Tacos been really disappointing. And you know, the fact that he would if I was Robin Anneli, and I told taco here, we're gonna take you inside. And if he did it, but we don't know if this is the case, but if you did oppose it'd be like, dude, this isn't a choice. You know, like we we need you to play inside do take one for the team. So here's another thing. You mentioned it. Well, you can't afford to put him inside outside speed. Well. It doesn't really matter. If you're getting it from somewhere, you really, you know, you can you can compliment that with someone on the edge. But I mean, this working on both ends and inside because I think I think a lot of people they followed get seduced by the outside rush and the sexiness of getting. Getting sacks. And that's where they come from. But think about it in the pocket whenever that's what you're you're able to develop pressuring inside out. And I think it's gotta come from someplace. So I think it's just a good way of just really being versatile as defensive line. I agree with that. But to go back to where this all started in terms of would you draft to save defensive tackle? I would rather just get my defensive tap. I, you know, I don't wanna mess. I think at this point. I'm not saying you you just chock taco up to a loss and kind of whatever you're right on his rookie deal without fifth year option. But I think that you know, you get your defensive tackle, you you fill that need, and you couldn't eat taco Charlton because you there's talk about trading democracy because of the contracts district Randy, Gregory suspended. What if town Crawford get suspended for a game or two all of a sudden taco Charlton's wanted? You're starting. Events, and that's crazy world. But especially if you do land rookie defensive tackle with the fiftieth overall pick because then you're defensive tackle, pretty solid. You've got me cons, Anton woods and arbitrary rookie. First of all, they even think about trading DeMarcus Lawrence at this juncture of their tame may I think I would just want my money back my season tickets. I will really I was right. The markets launch. Because you don't have enough money to pay me. Don't wanna pay him that much come on and join I mean, they basically backed in the corner right now. Yeah, I think like if you can go out sign someone that we're going to get to like a Robert Griffin that I'm sorry. Not a Quin ova Quinn. I don't know. I said Robert Griffin. But he's the one. That's why. Yeah. Rub for Quinn. The dude for Miami. Maybe. But I mean, if you even thinking about trading or not even put him in in again and long extended contract. I think there's going to be some real issues if the Cowboys do land Robert Quinn. We'll see what happens there. It does give them a little bit of leverage against DaMarcus on and that they at least have somebody because right now, they really don't and they only have problems latest being Tarrant Crawford. You know, the status of that trade to be still up at the at the time of us talking at least. So we don't know what's going to happen with Robert Quinn. I also this. I'm not a proponent for trading democracy ones. But, you know, understanding who this team is if the Cowboys decide amongst themselves for whatever reason, this this is our ceiling, this this number of this is the absolute highest we can go we've we've budgeted we've done all this work, whatever, and they decide X is that number and they offer DeMarcus ex and they say do we cannot go opin higher than ex. And DeMarcus says, you know, what X is not good enough on more than ex. Well, then guess what? Then then I think you move on. I mean, just for the sake of of peace because you can't drag this out into July, and then, you know, pony up then then he gets surgery and everything I think you have to you have to make a move. You can't just sit on this forever. I wouldn't I wouldn't be enthused about that. But if they decided that and they moved quickly and they recoup two first round draft pick at the very least for the draft. And okay, I mean, it's not the worst thing I've ever heard what have they can pins on what type of draft pick. If they're gonna make a trade for Robert Quinn. That would be the question. What are they going to what kind of what they talking about? Well, Robert Quinn have what eight and a half sacks last year for the Miami Dolphins. And so it just depends on what Miami's will went to give up. And if you move DeMarcus Lawrence, what what are you going to get for for trade value because you know, right now, I going into free agency DeMarcus Lawrence was a number one free agent at the very top. So there is a big market for DeMarcus Lawrence O, regardless if the Cowboys decide the pony up pain and give him an extended contract and paying twenty million dollars a year. Whatever that number is. There's going to be a market for him somewhere else. And again, if you're looking at that type of money and him trade into some other just thinking about this. If I'm the New England Patriots, and I'm looking at DeMarcus Lawrence, and they you know, they always stop piled me think about all the picks that they've amassed over the years that would be a place. Anyway, I'm just thinking that loud. I'm just thinking of other homes for him. I bought a wine. I didn't pantry for hours. So I mean, I think that that would be crazy. But I don't think that would be crazy, but I'm just thinking of other homes for him. But in that was just my little fantasy general manager thanking on my part right now since I've been working the phones this one on our show, and I jotted listeners. Sometimes I am technically challenge where I have other things going on. And so that kind of adds ambience too. But back to democracy, they need to get him sign and again to your point if they can get syndrome picks that quote, quantify the. Reason and really give them opportunity go out fine. Someone at that position. Bill it, and if you able to to Detroit for Robert Quinn, I think I'm on board with that. It's. Immune is it the smartest thing. No. Is that the best thing? No. But you could stomach that you know, what? I mean, you could if they landed Robert Quinn. And we don't want to regress. No, we don't last year the defense. I mean, they're the needle is up on point with this defense. That's don't wanna regress and get back. Okay. So here's what we have. Now we look on offense. We went out and got random call got a Cooper last year. We've added these players offense. We don't want to get into the this unbalanced. We wanted to be more bouncing Lasser struggled so much in the first half of the season. They wanna try to keep as many than most important parts on your team. And that is the markets Lawrence on defense. And I really feel like if you lose him, I think you really regress on this on this football team. You know, it's unfortunate that Amari Cooper in back-to-back seasons has dealt with off seasons or his team has a disgruntled pass rusher. And obviously Khalil Mack last year. And the raiders of did what what we're saying. The Cowboys could they said, you know, what we have a number. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm giving the rates too much credit. We have a number Khalil won't take it. So let's just get out. You know what I mean? Let's get out. Let's let's cash out now. So I mean, it's not the worst thing ever. It would not be ideal. I with you. But here's the thing. Also, I didn't mean to interrupt you is when you look at the whole DeMarcus Lawrence on start thinking about this. You're looking to draft the guys coming out the defensive tackle position because I think there's some really some players. So then you gotta look at teams really have a top ten draft pick this year. Those are the teens. Maybe that you're gonna have to talk to if you're talking about trading someone like DeMarcus Lawrence because those are the guys that really need probably really good defensive and Pash rusher. And actually have the. You know, the the tolls and the resources to trade for player like the Marcus Lawrence because they're trying to add and get closer to being a more complete team. So Tony will be back on Monday. Spent a great show, by the way, madness mine distraction with me the bat phone and everything else. I think it's really good lecture keeping train on the tracks horse. So Eric berry and Robert Quinn by the time we seven five hundred up on Monday are either one of them doubts. I believe you said that you thought Rando would be accomplished. I think you're one for one as far as free agency is concerned, but Eric berry or robber Queen will either one one of them both of them. None of them. What's the situation going to be Monday? When we hit five oh. I'm gonna go with Robert Quinn to think that happens got more live action. Okay. I'm down with that. So Robert Quinn is a cowboy by Monday is your first prediction. I'll agree with that. I think that that happens. Maybe it's like a Friday news dump sort of thing. And what's your biggest upset of the weekend? Oh, we're talking about the March madness. Gosh, that's a great question. To look at my look at my bracket. Maybe biggest upset but just something interests someone like a, well, here's here's my question. Let me look at this real quick because there's a couple of teams I'm on on the fence with. I'm I'm gonna go ahead and say. Because I don't think. This wouldn't be an upset. So we gotta swing for the fences. Let me ask you, let me get yours. I so I can just have one second to to to look at this. I'm gonna go with Vermont over Florida state. I think that that happens. I think we get that upset in the first round Vermont over Florida's stays my obsesed of the weekend. Almost throw this out there, and I'm really probably off base with this. I'm going with Old Dominion. Oh, all right. Huge upset. Let's do it. Let's get watts. That's why that's what the that's the definition upset right there. Let's team seed versus a three seat. Let's hope that happens. You mentioned in Tonia was a great show. I'll be all enjoyed it. Make sure to rate and review the blog on the boys podcast feed on all podcast platforms. You can hit Tony up on Twitter at TC Casillas. I'm at our Joa. You can let them know if he sounds like the rock or someone else it's up to you. Really? Thanks for listening have great weekend. This was the seven five. My name is Spencer home by name is Jason Kurt. My name is Ryan nanny combined. We form the shutdown full stride. Keep telling you this forecast is technically college football podcast. But it's also a show about won't care disaster regional grocery stores. We love Tennessee Batman, homeowners associations bears in video games. 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AP Roundtable - Pete and Joel join 610 Sports' The Drive to talk Colts-Chiefs in the divisional round

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AP Roundtable - Pete and Joel join 610 Sports' The Drive to talk Colts-Chiefs in the divisional round

"First off the pop quiz is brought to you by victory Chrysler Dodge Jeep ram today's pop quiz. Talladega nights, which is my favorite will Ferrell moved. So many good quotes from that. One. I don't count wedding crashers the wolf aero movie wedding crashers. That's Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson movie. He makes a cameo in the movie. Talladega nights my favorite will fare. Today's winner got a twenty five dollar gift card to twin peaks. But I've been ready because I wanna talk to Joel about playoff failures of years past. You're a lifelong cheese pain, you're the cheese fan. Like, you're my favorite kind of cheese fan. You're the cheese fan that looks at the schedule. I think they're going to tend to six eleven and five and then never picks against them during the regular season. You have to pick them to go sixteen. And then you could be shocked at the end, whatever they only went eleven those games, but it is our early prime roundtable with Joe Thornton. It is peace weenie from ERO had pride Pete. I feel like we have to start with you. Because you were the creator nobody on the internet had this idea of counting down days in between practices with Eric berry. Nobody else doing this. But you piece weenie here at prime. What do you make today that Eric berry sat practice out today in did not practice for your Kansas City Chiefs? I don't think it's completely surprising. Just because he missed Friday a prior to the raiders game. I some kind of setback where I mean, everything you hear is had wants to form anything where I think the pain is getting to be to a point where it's going to be too great from the play. I think it's in serious doubt that he plays on Saturday afternoon. Given the fact you just had a buy week if there's ever a time when you should be practicing at least limited -ly LP put on the practice report all week. I think it's this week. He wasn't able to do that to me. I think it's an serious question. The day to day thing it just was so. Into the way the team, and then the player and everyone involved in this treat this all year. It's they never put him on injured reserve. No and being data day for over a hundred days was just so funny to me, I couldn't myself. Yeah. It's I think cdot said earlier in the show that you're lying if you can tell me what's going to happen with Eric berry this week. We have no idea. We've we've been saying that all season long. I think we we want him to play, but Pete's Pete's taken like a pretty like realistic to this. I think with like, okay, there's been so many setbacks throughout the season. Why do we think it's going to be any different this time? We were talking about the beginning of the season. I mean, we had the overrun or two and a half weeks. I'm like absolutely the over. This isn't an injury that's going to heal. This doesn't he'll with that some sort of procedure. So it's not magically going to get better. So I'm not surprised by this at all more than anything. I'm probably like a lot of cheese fans. I'm just sick of it. And just just another quick point about this people say, oh, well, it's the playoffs. Now, definitely play. Well, guess what they needed to win week seventeen. I understand. It's the. Oakland Raiders, but you're you're in danger of dropping to the fifth seed and heating go. So if you think that he's not gonna play because the playoffs wrong. I just what's hard for me in. This is the chiefs haven't done anything from an injury health training staff standpoint for me to give them the benefit of the doubt, if they had a spotless, reputation and all of this. It'd be chiefs the training staff. They know what they're doing. They're going to get this. Right. I mean, they misdiagnose Jamaal Charles. They mishandled dare Johnson's injury. They mishandled Justin Houston's injury. They've mishandled aired berry through this entire process. Like, even if you're the fan that thinks is just a standard rest day. And they're not telling us, you can't tell me why you would think that other than what I just think that like nothing that she's done over the last five years would suggest that this is not reason to be very alarmed at what's happening with EBay. I think based upon the history that you you just mentioned that certainly is tough to give them the benefit of the doubt. Or I think in this situation as soon as Eric berry makes that spirit comment to me becomes all right? This has been I think based on every. Can you hear in his hands the whole ton? I'm talking about this situation. Isolated if you compound compounded with all that other stuff, I think maybe start to have a case. And I grew with you on that too. Because I think with a player of his status he has input on what's going to happen to him. You're not just going to tell Eric berry. What to do? That's not the way it works. I mean, see that. And I talked about this before on the building there's certain people that you work with don't necessarily have a boss, and I feel like Eric Bury's probably one of those guys over at one zero head Dr he's going to have a say in in what happened to him. You know, any reason I can say we're putting you on. I r Eric that's not the way it works. He got what she's on hold for six and a half million next year on this. He's got power over the team right now. He's like he's like that executive who has a ton of shares in the company. That's exactly what it is. I mean, he has power over the chiefs right now because they lot of money and they can't cut until after next year. I think part of the frustrating thing is a lot of teams are like this with injuries. It's just that. They don't say anything like he's the star player. Face of the franchise sorta guy, and it's just been the same day-to-day thing. All seas. Along. And I think there's an argument. Oh, it's a competitive advantage. You don't want to give up, you know, information on energy on injuries and all that. But like it's more that like we've just been in the dark this whole time. That's the thing. I mean, it's it's twenty eighteen if you're going to be held down, and you're not gonna tell us why or go into what exactly is happening. Then all I'm going to say is that okay? You're choosing not to play. That is all if that's all you're gonna that's how I'm going to treat the situation. As fans at his media to speculate on what's going on unless you come out. And you say we had Jim Sorgi on the show yesterday colts color analyst he was talking about how Heyman everything's different in that building. You know forthcoming now it different from the GM that they had before since Ballard's their forthcoming. It's more open. It's more transparent on that stuff. And it's the exact opposite over there. So we're left to speculate on did the chiefs training staff screwed up. How much is Eric berry involved? Do I play Doh play. Why don't the chiefs put them on? I r two for what it's worth. I think the organization a lot of that secrecy in that stuff. Just not wanting reveal too much. I think comes from Andy Reid and the Philly days this situation. I keep saying it's a little isolated because I think it just has a lot more to do with the player. And I think base upon kind of some things you hear so on so forth that it's a pain tolerance thing. And it's just too painful. I just wish they like we all said would be little bit more forthcoming. I think what's frustrating. At least from my perspective is I think every decision that chiefs made after Earl Thomas broke his leg was with the mindset of we will have Eric berry the second half of the season. I think every decision that they made was with that concept. So you had to get it. Right. I don't care if you played in the chargers game. I don't care if you played in the ravens game. But he got a play in this one. This is the one you got to play with. And you said it, I just don't know how you know of Eric berry is going to play. Like, I don't know. How anybody I don't know how to say I don't know how reconciling not anybody can with a straight face say, I know is going to be ready and available on Saturday everything the second half of the season was about Abyan available. And in hindsight, we should have the Earl Thomas stuff should have been a bigger red flag. I think maybe we realized at the time that like they're willing to give up a second or third round pick for safety at his who's who supposedly coming back like looking back at that. Now, you're like like it felt like maybe it was a bigger deal back then than we realized. But I think we probably thought at least I did a little bit and had a little bit something to do with no dance orange and bringing Ron Parker back. I think I think the way I was looking at it initially was like man, you got berry and Thomas. Wow. You know, once he gets back, and you bring Thomas, I mean, you're setting that's gonna take care. So of the issues you have a corner. And you're starting safeties last game. We're Daniel Sorensen Jordan Lucas. Yeah. That is a message in itself. We are trying everything here we have no answers at this position. And if Barry doesn't play it's going to be a serious problem on Saturday afternoon. I look at the other side of the ball to and we'll have to get into it yet. But same kind of thing would Sammy Watkins. I mean, I look at the situation. I'm more upset that they didn't try harder to go. Get Landon Collins now like I I look at the landing Collins the contract you want the age the health the productivity, I'm now more of set that they did make at least it would appear a better effort to go. Get Landon Collins. And I think it's it's frustrating too. Because we can all see against the colts this weekend. Not having that safety over the top experienced over the top like at some point. It's gonna burn them. You feel like you're so close in like this one guy, you know, supposedly can make a difference. And you talk about competitive advantage to me after Saturday if it results in L, which we don't wanna put that out there. I get that. But let's say, you know, hypothetically and the chiefs scored thirty one points and lose because the defense and a huge gaping hole. Then at that point. I think the organization east say all right? Here's what hap-. Here's what was happening on all the day today today today today things because guess what? Who cares about competitive advantage two years over? Yeah. I'm the more. We get into this week. And people are letting me on the on the protein. I see what the purpose text line is that I actually gut says the chiefs are gonna win this game of the more into this thing the more. I look at it. I don't feel good about this game. I don't feel good about this game at all based on the with the culture playing in the holes of the chiefs have on defense. I feel similar to you. I did a podcast last night with the colts SP nation side. And we're just talking through this thing, and as you and we're going through every matchup and you're starting to feel a little bit nervous considering the culture a little bit more of a complete team. Right. But I think the gut thing you're talking about it because I feel too. I heard you guys coming in where you're like. Well, why are you picking the to me, it's not only a gut thing? It's just I think of belief that Patrick Mahomes will is team because you've seen it before. And I saw it against the ravens. And I just I can't see this kid with the city on his back the way he carries himself going in the Arab stadium with all of this pressure. And losing this football game. I just can't see it. I wanna ask you. This question. I do wanna talk about that coming up on the other side. Do you think Eric berry plays a full game with the Kansas City? Chiefs moving forward at any point this year next year. Do you think Eric berry plays one full game for the chiefs? Yes. Yes. Either this year or next if thrown next year to than yes, I do 'cause I do think he'll be back next year. And you just take your chances any well, I think they're into situation. Now where soon as the chiefs have no more football play this year. There needs to be some type of procedure. That's gonna try this again, and with that good faith, and they've another crack this hypothetically again because what we know nothing that he'll play next season. But to think that he's gonna be hundred percent. You're kidding yourself. Coming up to two achilles. If that because I don't know if you guys heard airborne would said, you know, earlier today. But so if you go in there, you're gonna have the procedure that's going to have to happen at some point for Perry. She got a couple of different options grind down the bone spur. It's a two month thing at best. You're only on for two months or maybe have to unattached the Killys. And that it's basically a total rehab again. And if that's the case, look what you got out of Eric berry for your six years and forty some odd million dollars over three years, you got three quarters of football game and a half this year and maybe nothing for next year. Grad unite took a lot of hate, man. Wait, wait where you got. Because you just never knew. And it's coming like when a guy is day-to-day for hundred days like that is an abnormal thing. And I think we're seeing the results I think we're at the point that I do not think it is a I do not think it is impossible that there is an injury settlement for breath of the retirement at this point. I just wouldn't be surprised let's say the air berry has to have surgery at the end of the season. That's another nine months that you're out. And then you've got to recover again. I could see the chiefs and Eric Barry, Saint, hey, let's come to an issue. We know we owe you this money. Let's figure something out. And then let go our separate ways. This has been a much longer ordeal than the chiefs and probably Eric berry in his side and visited coming up on the other side. I do wanna talk to you guys about gut feeling with the Kansas City. Chiefs of I don't know why. And I think it's just a chief playoff history. Why we turn the colts into a much better team than I? They actually are it is around table. Joe Thornton piece when you right here is the drive the drive presented by Takata. Coming up in fifteen minutes. We'll give you chance thousand dollars national cats contest right now, we're keeping things going with the guys from Eyraud head Frieden formed Sweeney. Joining us live in studio. I feel like there's a baseline when it comes to this conversation about the NFL playoff. Every team can win this week. Like, yes, I can tell you how the colts can beat the Kansas City Chiefs like fairly obvious. But the chiefs give the colts like I feel like in this. I'm seeing people like me dangerous team. Everybody's dangerous this point in the season. Like that. It seemed like an under stood to me. The biggest reason why I'm picking the chiefs this week is I don't trust the teams that the colts have beaten, and they just haven't proven to me that there at the same level that the chiefs are I'm looking up and down. I'm seeing Derek Anderson. I'm seeing Cody Kessler like I I haven't seen the colts consistently either beat good teams or play enough. Good teams. I don't trust them to go on the road and win this game. And second for everything that I can say the colts can do well against the chiefs. There's always some things I think they can do. Well, I don't trust that defense against Mahomes for a second in this. So if you're telling me that the colts defense, I don't think in stop the best player in the game. It seems like an obvious lean towards Kansas City in this game. It does feel a little bit like the two thousand thirteen chiefs the colts you're that you're the chiefs. A run of just playing a lot of mad quarterbacks and started out nine to know the colts on their recent run has been a lot like that. So I think it's a good good. Good comparison there. Yeah. For me. It's just picking packed Patrick Mahomes that you know, for a fact like the one thing I know this weekend is at the chiefs are putting up thirty plus point. So that's your job stop the colts from scorn thirty. Plus the thing though, man, it's like it's like you have one really great kid at one kid, that's total pain in the ass. We're just talking about the great kid, and we're acknowledging the pain in the ass kid. That's a problem when I'm talking about the defense here and see that brings up the quarterback thing who the chief speak quarterback wise. Derek Carr lost. A Russell Wilson. Lost a Philip rivers. Barely beat Lamar Jackson beep. Derek Carr lost Jared Goff. Be Josh Rosen. Beat Baker Mayfield beat case keenum beat Andy Dalton lost the Tom Brady and in week one week two. Yeah, you got rivers in Ben Rothlisberger. But any team in the league is completely different or every team in the lease? Different than they were in week one week two. That's the thing with this. And it's the scariest part of this game. Is this chiefs defense struggles with really good quarterbacks? And that's what Andrew luck is. That's what he's done all season long. I look at it this way, and I talked about the gut a little bit before my gut feeling is that you have Michael Jordan in a game that pretty much evenly matched. You have your Michael Jordan and your LeBron James of the league. I liked the colts. I said it last week. I'll reiterate why you see all these guys on film throwing their hands up secondary playing perfectly Patrick Mahomes. Throws a ball. I think he has the ability to really make team give up on itself. It's we can't beat this guy and the colts haven't seen him the ravens and chargers hat, and that's why I wanted to Kulthum gecko didn't think there was a right answer last week. But I liked that the colts haven't seen this guy. I mean, you can watch all the Tapi one guy throws eighty yards down the field. And you're looking back like how did he do that? It's almost like when you get punched in the mouth like what are you gonna do when you get punched the mouth? That's why like the colts. I think too though, but. I kind of feel like some of the context is out when it comes to the chiefs defense that I am not a chiefs defense defender. I a really know how you can be at this point in the season. I can point to every game other than New England. The defense gave the offense a chance to win. Now. We asked the office to do something incredible. But the defense gave the offense chains that Rams game. Those fifty four fifty one Patrick Mahomes back toback interception at the end of the game. The defense Dane member home to the first interception. Chiefs defense got three and out on the ball back. He another interception in the game against the chargers. The offense got the ball back of fourteen minutes at one time out if you get to first downs, and that's an area. Chiefs win that football game oftens into part that I'm went through the chiefs defense has not been great so far this season. But I think more times than not this defense has at least given the offense a chance in the games they lost. And then the offense just couldn't care the defense enough. Yeah. But I mean, you can't let a team score fifty four either. I mean. Yeah. You got the ball back the last time. But to me the whole this whole thing revolves around can the chiefs defense get three or four stops, which they are much better at home. Well, yeah. But they have been the three big losses that you mentioned all on the road against great quarterbacks which is tough to do. What about Baltimore in LA in the last month in Kansas City when when the chiefs said the rate the chargers game is when I finally had it with the defense because they had three different fourteen point leads in that game. And they couldn't hold him. And so if we want to talk about the three and out at the end of the game for the offense. How about the defense getting a freaking stop and covering somebody on a two point conversion? So I mean, that's what legitimately scares me in this game. When when it comes down to it wasted historic offense because they can't get it right on defense. They can't and Eric berry. You don't may not even play in this game. So yeah, I'm frightened when it comes to this game. And I think that thing that is getting a little bit buried and like I said I do trust Mahomes. I do think that chiefs. Ultimately win will be hard thirty Mahomes, scored twenty eight to thirty one points. But the chiefs are going to be in the chiefs offense prior to the by week was different than this chiefs offense after the bye week with Kareem hunt and Sammy Watkins mix, and so I I look at that. And what was happening at the beginning, your you felt good about those games in those games because guess what? The chiefs offense was good to keep up with this crappy defense as it really felt that one hundred percent. I mean, you you lost two three games to end the season. So it gives you the he'd be gbs. You hope that the thing missing isn't Kareem hunt, and it Sammy Watkins, and he gets place back in the mix and the offense can kinda roll that way. But it is a concern for sure I wouldn't be worried about this defense. Like, I am right now if Sammy Watkins was healthy and Kareem hunt was still there. Right. Because you weren't at the beginning. All right, bro- thirty first. Eighty five on anybody. We play wherever we play. I don't that's not the case it's been a much different feeling since that raiders game. Where you they scored forty that game you feel differently. And you haven't felt the same like before the by weekson. Maybe this is where I think the conversation is a little bit dishonest towards the chiefs defense. I don't think the culture scoring forty in this game. I don't think that's happening. I don't think she sorry. I don't think this is going to be the shootout game that I think it's going to be under thirty. I'm asking you guys. What is our expectation for the chiefs defense that if we can say right now Colton was scored twenty six points in this game. I'm home the offense a little bit responsibly. This defense did his job. This defense is completely outmanned in this scenario. You're often says the one that I'm that. We're talking about is a store they got a score thirty. They got Mahomes. They got all this kind of stuff at so point. I do think we gotta look at the offense and say you got score thirty to ensure you went because maybe different. I just don't look as Indianapolis is having that run away from you kind of offense. Chargers. Have that kind of a Billy Rams head that kind of ability to me, Indianapolis. They are not an offense that I think in January score thirty five points. So they're probably scoring twenty four twenty six twenty seven points. You're asking this chiefs offense to go out there, and then put up the normal numbers that they do I'm with you. And I think in when it's anytime the chiefs struggle, Bob Sutton, even in previous years, I'm talking prima homes has been the forever scapegoat. Like, I think last year, right? Everyone's like, oh, the chiefs blew this fantastically half. The offense was blanked in the second half without Travis. Kelsey once Travis Kelsey left the field. Andy Reid couldn't do anything. But it's just always on Bob Sutton in the defensive just how it's been in Kansas City since then do I think the are going to lose the game because of the offense on Saturday. No, I think if they lose it they're gonna give too many points. I think to to answer sheets question. I think that numbers thirty for me anything under the chiefs defense Holtom under thirty I consider that you've got expect a win. It you've done your job and this entire season. They've scored twenty eight or more in every game. That's the. Speculation to hold him under thirty and you've done your job. Now that said they could still go out and win forty five forty. We had played a fun game day cdot hypothetical button game hit the button in the in the cold scored twenty eight points. Would you take it or not you gotta Pete Knight? Both. Yes. Because I think the score more than that. The the scary part for me is if the colts get into the thirties, that's what I'm worried things. I'm worried about let's talk about the only other side because I do think there were a couple of big advantages at the colts half in this game. And I'm worried about how the chiefs are going to counteract, and we'll give you a chance I'm gonna thousand dollars and our national cash concepts Arrowhead prime roundtable with Jolan Pete is Dr. The drive presented by Takata. We're talking cheese the guys from aero head prided Joel form, and it is Pete Sweeney. The guys from the A P right now does your chance one thousand thirty in the national cash contest. Text the word colored C O L O art, two seven to eight one. That's color. C O L. Are you want chief talk into chance to one thousand thirty? There's only one station in Kansas City, giving you both weekdays from seven eight seven p it pays listen to a larger sports radio company in the world. Data rates may apply. Your next chance to win is coming up at one hour. But why not go ahead and win right now. One more time for those you in the back that heart of what color C O L O R. Text the word color to seven to eight one national cash contests code word for three thirty is color two things. I am worried about in this game. Just to like two big things with the colts number one is I think that she's biggest advantage defensively is their ability to get to the quarterback. I think the colts as much as any team left in the NFL playoffs. Do the best job at neutralizing. What you do really well defensively. Like, I think the chiefs defense can mask a lot of their deficiencies with just getting pressure with whether it'd be Chris Jones whether it be with four whether you just in Houston the colts offense of line. They're the best at the NFL at protecting their quarterback the other thing, I'm really worried about is t y Hilton man, if this is one of those games that luck says, I'm I'm gonna make sure that I throw the ball to t y Hilton fifteen times, I do not see how he does not have a good day. I don't know if defensively they are especially with no air bare feet does not play in this game to slowdown TY Hilter. Those are my two biggest concerns went into this game. I'm most concerned about the colts offense of line. I can already see how frustrated we're gonna give when she aren't getting home with with with four rushers. And you're gonna wanna Blitzer you're gonna wanna do something different. And that's just not in their DNA. It seems. So that's probably my top concern. Yeah. And then, you know, not even just TY. Hilton. But anybody over the top quick scores. Like that like I could see that come into concert number one bothers me. I think a little bit more than concern number two very quickly on concert number two. I feel like over the past few years anyway when it comes to chiefs. The posing playmakers always seemed to do well whether it be like getting one hundred yards getting over one hundred yards running back on the grounds. Eighty five whatever some around that. And the chiefs have still found a way to win. And I think in the Alex taste what scares me about the offensive line. Is you look at Texans team. And I'm looking at it right now, I have in front of me JJ watt, Whitney mercilus. Who's got cloudy today? Cloudy, no sacks last week. I mean, I understand you like default and Chris Jones, but you like those guys as well. And this was a year that JJ watt was back, and he could not have his way with a colts offensive line. At least when it comes to hate it, you know, getting to the quarterback. So that is that that probably is the number one scare this game because that's the best part. And maybe the only good part about your chief. And they ran for two hundred yards. Yeah. They're really good on the on the ground. That's where the game flow is going to be important. You know, if the chief can get up early making more like one dimensional. I think that'd be huge in this game. Obviously have trouble stopping the run. You know, but if the colts get up, and they can go on those seven eight nine minute drive. And when you run the football, guess what you also eliminate. One of the chiefs big the cheese biggest drink on defense, which is trying to get after the quarterback. You know? So that. Yeah. I mean there were legitimate concerns here. People can say that I'm a negative Nancy or whatever the hell you one. But this there's some bad matchups here. There's in this game. There's a little point to note too. That really nobody is really talking about it. I just got back from the facility during no Daniel, hasn't practiced? They had an entire game where the opposing team was doing a certain it was the Los Angeles. Rams. They were in the same personnel all game. They're a little bit faster team where they had dorien play. And so during has had a little bit of a roll here. So you're putting the trust of your season potentially. If the colts have a lead late in this game in Reggie Ragland. Anthony, Hitchens and say that out loud and tell me you're not freaking out about that. Yeah. I would say that's what really worries me and one thing I think that really stood out in the game against Houston is indie was able to they kinda dictated temple, and they kind of bled. Houston drive. I mean, they got those twenty one nothing really early. I believe the first fifteen minutes of the game. And then they could just run the ball thirty. I five times that if this becomes a ball control. Let's keep the offense off the game. You're right that that's very much in the colts favor. I just don't know if you're getting up twenty one nothing early on this team where to me Houston, kind of then became one dimensional in Houston. Just they're not a high volume offense. This is an offense that can strike very quickly and kind of match you punch for punch. I think it's a this game in particular. I don't know if team gets out to fourteen but it's a big race to fourteen because of calls out to fourteen they could bleed the whole game gap. Do bleed the clock gash you bleed the clock. The chiefs get out to fourteen we mentioned that you know, we're a little bit worried about the chiefs not being rushed to passer, then the colts may become a little one dimensional and you have a chance to smack Andrew luck in the mouth, and maybe make this kind of shootout game where you just can't continue pouring the points on what just what I'm really I'm curious about in this game. We've talked about it a little bit. We can kind of get more into it as I just wanna see if the colts can match the the level of team that I think can play at a high level. I haven't seen that from them in two months. Like, we talk about. The coal. We can talk about the chiefs losing to the patriots. I saw the chiefs on the road in New England able to place STAN toe against the patriots. I saw them on the road on Monday night football play against one of the five teams in the NFL. I've at least seen this team challenge. I know how they respond. I know that they've been in these scenarios multiple times Indy. Just hasn't been in these it would be one thing to see a game against the saints or not in this. This is going to be on the road outside. It's cold not in a dome with you've got favorable conditions. I wanna see how Indianapolis response and that's an air because nothing on their schedule with show me that they can do that. At least not this season. They've scored in the thirties. Once in the last two months, they're capable of six oh loss to the Jaguars. And I think that's the difference with the chiefs like the floors pretty high. We know what we're gonna get a colts can come in and play a perfect game. And I think challenge the chiefs. I mean, it could be Rams or patriots type of game where they where they take him to the wire. Like, I think the colts are capable of that. But they haven't done it every week this season like the chiefs. App on your points too. I I look at the cult's, I guess you're not buying into Houston Texans, which is understandable. But I think back to those to the ranch game. And I think back to the patriots game. If you remove Kareem hunt, if you remove Sammy Watkins, we don't know what percentage he's gonna be at do. You really think they're going toe to toe with those team. One series in the Rams game. I don't think you can say that Sami was a was a correct he only played five. Sure. You're right. Absolutely. Yeah. I think the cream hunting the Sammy Watkins thing. Maybe that's cares. More than the defense like not having those guys in this situation. So yeah, I don't know, man. The longer the week goes on the closer. We get to this game. I feel worse after this conversation. Again. I mean, you've got one good kid. You got one bad kid. You wanna talk about the great kids at study hall, focus on that. Then the bad kids over here, burn your house down. You know? I mean, that's talking about you, don't you don't pay attention to the bag some really I mean everything's over. You're done. You're gone. I liked that the chiefs of now had two weeks prepare for this. I know it didn't work out the last time when they lost the Pittsburgh Steelers thousand Alex Smith, I think Mahomes is a different animal. Nothing nothing bad about Alex Smith. But you gotta think that Andy Reid with two weeks of sorta prepare here to figure out the deficiencies in his offense can overcome them with the right game plan. And again, it is it could come down to the defense, which you which you really like I think the biggest worry for me in this game is if it's tied and somehow Andrew Angela has the ball with three minutes left with four minutes because you're gonna lose. I mean unless it was called. And that's the thing that I'm curious how that Lafayette the players, and the reason I say that is. Yeah. Okay. Mahomes, eight months old and ninety five or whatever it wasn't. And he none of this as any effect on these guys. They did all the history they do read, and they do know, and they know what's going on. And you can sense if you can sense in stadium what everybody's juiced up, and the crowds going crazy. You can sure as hell sense when a fan base is freaked out. So the chiefs are down twenty four twenty one with two minutes to go against the colts in the play offs at Arrowhead. I'll be curious to see how everybody in that building response. I don't even know if you have to go back to you know, the the chiefs history beyond this year like look at the patriots game. You knew you gave him too much time. The Rams game. You gave him too much time. Same with rivers in the chargers. But no sorry to cut you off though. I would say the same on the other side. If Mahomes has the ball at the three minutes to go, you feel good. I feel really good lately are win that game. And and we talking with this guy do want to talk about fan site. I think it's a big part of the game is to me the colts are the worst. Left in the playoffs. Like the worst. Maybe you would argue Philadelphia's worse than them. But it's something about Nicole's that like this is the one game of all of them. You should win this game. I mean because we agree patriots better than them charters better than the colts Rams better than the colts sank colts. Like this is the worst team remaining in the playoffs. Like, you got a feel good about this game. If you feel good about the chiefs at all in my opinion, the eagles are like your buddy who at the end the night, you can tell he's really drunk, but all of a sudden he just had a shot, and it's just running on straight adrenaline by this point. I agree with you. I think the eagles are an outlier 'cause you gotta take him out because this is just another magical run from Nick foles. I don't know how their is playing like it is. But yes aside from the eagles. I think you you rule this team certainly the worst team. Yeah. I just maybe I'm being a skeptic. When it comes to the cult schedule. I saw two teams from the same division rack up double digit wins this year playing very similar schedules that both of them look a little shaky to me. I'm never. Houston at any point. So far this season. It never felt real to me. They got blast in the first round the playoffs that I think the colts took advantage of schedule. You only who you play. They had the easiest schedule. According to NFL, they do all the little algorithm. They're the easiest in the NFL they feasted on this. Now you go against now. You all the road team. That's just better than you. And you lose a my opinion. I wanna talk to you Joel as a lifelong cheese fan. How are you playing playing the ghost of playoff failure pass against the Indianapolis Colts one more segment the guys had pride? It's the Dr. Dr presented by Takata. On the drive is the playoffs. So we're making the guy's head probably worth a little bit harder. Today is peace wing. Joel foreman guys over at the AP coming just committed. We are off today at five o'clock because of Kansas state's we'll do the hits at four o'clock push it up a little bit Kansas state has to continue to not make the NCAA tournament. They played West Virginia today was that comment on on the website? The people very quickly. See dachshund, you're gonna get this safety. Mike Mitchell won't be playing in the game for the colts. If you don't remember that all right on. I r if you remember Mitchell had a dirty hit on Alex. So I kinda wrote a little bit of a chief spin article today for pride Mahomes will be safe, and I got an Email from a colts fan just from the looks of your picture, you'd be better served writing about the marching band. Maybe the color guard goes on to say I'd be more worried that Darius Leonard might stop patties faces rolls over on his way to the end zone. After picking them off at the second time. This my thoughts, you are proof that anyone can be a writer engagement with the readership. Love it, would you? Did you send in the middle finger emoji or or is that allowed Eyraud head bride? No, no said, thanks for the Email. That's all that clip to this sex click. That's really all you can say in this. Joel I am very the reason. I was most decide to talk to you is your diehard cheese fan through and through the Kansas City Chiefs or your favorite team that you like you basketball, more than eighty by wife CK you fan. I'm not let's just let's just get shrug that my apologies your cheese fan through and through your to accusing people being everybody around me. And I mean, how are you feeling going into this week because brand fanning not pointing fingers now he was like I want to give you the give me the colts identical. Now, you've got the colts now to go. Yeah. I was feeling now going because he Annapolis. Go. I was not as excited about playing the dragon as as Brad was I picked the ravens or the chargers. Head of the colts last week when we're talking about our options. Yeah. Definitely nervous. I'd be a lot more nervous. I think if it was a different offense like offenses we've seen in the chiefs. Have had and some of these other horrible playoff losses. So you know, maybe a little bit better than that. Just give me a game. That doesn't have a name. You know? I don't wanna come out of here that says like thirty eight ten. The no. No pump game. The Lynn Elliott game. Bob Sanders game like just as long as we get out of here. Even if they lose this just doesn't have a name like feel feel better. I get here. You know what I mean? Like it's the first game, which I think is great because talking about this with somebody else if this game was Sunday at four o'clock or three o'clock. Yeah, I in and you and you and if you lost and Sunday at seven thirty or sitting there and your team's done like, that's the worst. The absolute worst feeling. It was refreshed Levin. Days off nice vacation came back and. I don't feel good about all. I mean, I really don't like totally anxious for this game. I I'm scared. I don't know what's gonna happen. But you're right. I did want the colts because I want this to be over. I wanted to be over. It's felt like the slowest of weeks. I think a lot of people that I've heard it from a couple of people just want to get to Saturday. I think once it comes to this feels like one of those games for Kansas City. I it feels like the big, you know, the biggest game since the World Series has. But because of the quarterback you have and it feels like one of those games or you're going to be glued on every single play and moments step. And so it will be fun. Again, you you hope the chiefs in command of it and they're playing for the title. And that's why I'm a little bit surprised. There's a little bit just a smidge because I know that she's fans once once the new year strike, she's fans negative fans that you can be around is history would suggest and I've I've been saying this all season. If you got it right at Cochin quarterback, you breakthrough like history would suggest you break through you. Through in this game. Where if you don't win this game you win the next one? Like, you don't lose like you don't have a twenty year playoff drought. If you have a great coach integrate, corvette that's not how the NFL playoff word that. I'm surprised that there doesn't appear to be to me a whole lot of confidence going into this game that I do think a lot of it is. I mean festival in the mornings bringing Elliott back, and we're sitting here and doing he's writing Lynn Elliott back. We're just like so much. I think of the first three days have been rehashing the Andrew luck fumble rehashing, the Llanelli rehashing, the no game DJ TJ to and not a whole lot about the the future is you can have a ten year run of playoff dominance because you have a great coach and a great quarterback which again history would suggest that's very possible for the chiefs. Given how many other teams have done it? I I think most fans are know what the future is in good hands. But it's been so long since you've been to ABC championship game that like this week, just supersedes everything. So, you know, forget it. The future for now. Like, let's just I'm just thinking about like Sunday like I just want that that went on Sunday. So. I think most people are are happy with the long-term. But man, like just this one week like you brought up the quarterback coach comparison like you might be going against the coach of the year in Andrew luck the best prospect twenty five years, and then after that Bella check and Brady like so so there's a lot of any any like good stat. I feel like you can turn around. And I don't think interlocks get enough love in these conversations either. I mean the guy's bad year in like franchise quarterbacks. Don't have bad years. That's weird. Number two for the MVP. Absolutely thirty nine touchdowns thirty nine touchdown. And you guys know this past defense eight the best, you know. So yeah, I'm I'm a mess. You're not various war. What's the big trip? They actually kind of getting on board with him. I said this last week. I let your various war Dramont Smith, Jordan Lucas. I think those guys are going to be the key that she's getting the super bowl's crazy. It sounds. Yeah. That does sound crazy. But I mean, but it's because those guys have to step up and play pig. You got a couple of twenty two year old rookies that have three combined starts and they're going to be in the secondary. A lot and and and they're gonna play crucial roles if they're going to get there. I played good against Seattle to we had our at private show that we do every Tuesday at six yesterday. And I started initially the show, and I'll say it again briefer version of it is if the chiefs lose this Saturday, people are gonna wanna on mmediately lump it into the the history of it. But it's still going to be a new air. I don't love this matchup especially given the week defense. But the losses in the playoffs will not like this almost shouldn't be lumped in with that even though if they lose it will be I just I mean, everybody's in the same. I'm not gonna say, it's just me. I want the chiefs to win this one. So every other time we have a playoff conversation. It can at least be like, I don't even feel like this one's been like kinda down the middle that she's fans I feel like all season, whether it was with Mahomes, or whether it's now what the team having waiting for the other shoe to drop that kind of feels like a team that like kind of like Missouri though, like can't get to the final four like how they were like once you get to the final four that monkeys lifted off your back. This just has to win one home playoff game. Gary, what's Brian Hoyer? Don't care who if it is. And then for the next ten years, we will just have completely different conversation. But now the hardest part is just getting the one. And now the one is against the team that is giving you more playoff disappointments more playoff failures than any of them more than New England more than Pittsburgh. It's been the colts. Whether it was Jim Harbaugh. Whether it was painting, whether it was Andrew luck. This team is handed. You more heartbreak than any of them that I would say you are either you are one game away from either furthering what you already think about this team in the playoffs or you are one game away from all right? We can now start over with the chiefs in the playoffs. And now look at this organization and this franchise completely differently. I think the fan base is a whole, and I don't want to speak for everybody because everyone has different opinions. But I think for the majority of them, I think if you win one they'll be good. I think it'd be satisfied with this year. And and especially if you play good AFC title game. And somehow Tom Brady just beat you. Or maybe you know, you've been talking about earlier it's Philip rivers year. That'd be that'd be hard to swallow. But at least if I got that playoff win you got to the AFC title. They haven't done that since Reid's been here. There's a lot that can come off your back as you were saying with the win on Saturday is going to be collective exile. In the city of cheese beat the colts and go to an AFC title game for the first time at aero had stadium when she agree. Maybe a bit of an ex hail. But then the stakes just got. Yeah. But versus home. Jolt. You know what I mean? I think I would go back to in. This sounds crazy. Number one seat. I would say the chiefs kind of playing with house money or the title game in the first year Mahomes is starting quarterback and the worst defense of the history of the world. Like, I I'd be I mean, you'd probably be the favorites against the patriots. And after that, I'll take whatever if the chiefs in in the first year with Mahomes and with his defense gets the title game. It's the first time any of us ever seen AFC title game in Kansas City, believe it or not I'm good with that. I wanna super come on -absolutely, but I will be cool with that. And you knocked off the colts in the process and killed all the crap that we've had to go through the colts in the postseason. I'd be totally fine with it. When you have the benefit of perspective. I think that's a good point that you know, you've had a good season. But if they win this and it's Thursday before like a Saturday or Sunday. Hey of C championship game at Arrowhead. Ain't nobody thinking about that think about getting that one win. And we talked last week. I think most of us agree that like AFC title game. It's considered a success. I it would be for me. I mean, I think the teams that are go bad win one win one three times. And you never know. And I always say what this would people and the chiefs of the number one seed culture number six seat doesn't matter. If you're in the dance anything can happen that could be the number sixteen. I'd be still just as juice for this. We're up against the break. I don't wanna throw any negative energy out there. There's already enough. You guys say that let them lose to Philip rivers at Arrowhead brain. To me Brady's that free. Roll all it was Brady. It was Bella check. It was Jane it was the playoffs. It was Mahomes. First time, that's one thing. Let it be a team that you beat nine of the last ten times you played them. Let it be that team to go. We will not be having all the fun year was house money. How the hell did we lose our chance to go the Super Bowl, and we lost a Philip rivers at airland that will absolutely be the conversation. I really quick we got like thirty seconds left. Chiefs win if Joel foreman chiefs win if they score thirty five. That's the magical number thirty five forty five long as defense. Well. Defense Holtom under thirty zero right now when it comes to the she's one of Mr. me argue shows up at berries condo. Chiefs win if you get Ford Chris Jones to penetrate that offensive line, and maybe just in Houston that that guy that used to about can help battle. But we'll be nice. He fifty up in there. Always good talking football with the guys the guys from airline pride. Joel Orman Pete Sweeney. I bless you guys with many clicks in twenty nineteen. Thanks god. The best. Coming up in just a minute. We'll get the top stories of the day in Kansas City. And this is not a top story to anybody. But Stephen a Smith went on a cliff Kingsbury rant and said that he was more qualified to be on the bachelor, then then the coach of an NFL team. I wanna hear that. It's the draft. The drive presented by Takata. Hi. I'm curious Fisher. I wanna tell you about another podcast. You should check out. 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OchoLive: Cobb Thoughts | Tyrone's Video | Free Agency Status

Blogging the Boys

23:16 min | 2 years ago

OchoLive: Cobb Thoughts | Tyrone's Video | Free Agency Status

"Nona. What up world? Welcome to another episode of Joe lie presented you in partnership as always SP nations blog on the boys dot com Arja show. You know me, of course from an from right here as your humble host. I know July you can watch our live shows normally every Tuesday and Thursday at approximately three PM central time on my Twitter periscope, which is at our Joe or the blog of the boys Facebook live feed, you can listen to all of our episodes every day of the week on the bog of the boys podcast feed. Makes you subscribe on all major podcast platforms. Search blog on the boys. You get access to all of our shows there, of course, Ocho live seven five. Oh, Tony Casillas talk in the star. And Bruce and the boys every piece of audio. They'd be pumps out. It is Wednesday March twentieth. Two thousand and nineteen and we have some housekeeping get to before we discuss the latest and greatest in the world of America's team. Now. I know that we've been absent for about a week and a half. Feels like maybe even two weeks. And if you follow me on social media, you likely saw I got married back on March ninth. And so as you can imagine a lot of things have been very busy in tied up with with post wedding activities and whatnot. I just want to say to those of you that reached out. Thank you so much from my beautiful bride. And I we are very very grateful. It's not lost on me. How blessed I am to to know all of you into experience all of you. I've said many times that you know, my favorite part about Twitter, and my favorite part about blog. The boys is the community that exists there. And it really wasn't very humbling thing to see how many of you reached out to extend your congratulations to me, and my family we had a very beautiful ceremony. It was wonderful. It was it was exactly what we wanted. So we're very very very happy. And again, just my heartfelt. Thanks to those of you who reached out it really did mean the world to me we have had a lot of people ask. When we're going on our honeymoon. I suppose that is a very popular question. But we're going in the middle of may sell. We'll have some more Ocho live housekeeping to do around then another little detail. So we have shifted formats here in the off season. We are doing our live shows only on Tuesdays and Thursdays. We podcast only on Monday. Wednesdays and Fridays. However, we're talking right now on Wednesday March twentieth Wednesday Thursday and Friday. This week's episodes are going to all be podcast, only episodes, no live shows this week for those of you that listen or read from the San Antonio area. I'm going to be out with the SPN San Antonio on Thursday and Friday, twin peaks Thursday at the days of Allah location and Friday at the park north location for all things March madness, we have a lot of you know, things we have planned a lot of coverage for March madness. We're all in charge of a particular conference. I'm running the SEC side of things. So I'll let's go Wildcats. My Texas maggie's when I hear to talk about that. But. So because of that because that is going on all day Thursday and Friday, we'll we will resort to podcast only episodes for the rest of this week one. Final thing before we get into the latest Cowboys news and discussion is on Wednesday over at the site. We did a a this is something we had thought about it in kind of planned and put together. So if you're very familiar with blog on the boys, we put it out as just a normal post normal article on the sides, and then I jumped in all the comments answered various questions questions about the draft questions about free agency about what a burger, even which you know, I am quite fond of and this is something we want to do regularly. And we are certainly looking for your feedback. We very much appreciate all of the feedback that we did get into QNA. Lots of people wanna see this done once a week. Lots of people want the particulars for win the q. Win the coup. And a goodness. We do one take which alive. No jive around here when it will be. So I think from now on say we're going to do the Q and A on a Wednesday. We'll announce it on Tuesday. We'll tell you what time it's going to be at how long it's going to be excetera that way, you can get the most out of it. We do appreciate all the questions that we got. And I I mentioned there. I'm talking to you right now once day after noon going to the Spurs game tonight, I'll circle back to that post late Wednesday night and get to all the questions that I missed if you have a question or a comment or a concern, even you can always Email me RJ dot show at espionage dot com, or you can tweet at me at our Joe char that's one of the best ways to get at me. My DM's are open. If you don't want to have it be public. So that's about five minutes of blabbering. It's a kind of get you caught up on things. And a lot has happened in the world of the Dallas Cowboys since we last spoke here on Joe live, and we've had a lot of time. Doc on other platforms since we've had episodes of talk in the star. Who's in the boys and seven five oh with myself, and Tony Casillas Kobe's leased gone. I remember the Buffalo Bills. Obviously that was a big deal and a little sad to see little sad moment. For Cowboys fans. Cole has been kind of a fan favorite for a long time. Damon Wilson is head of the Kansas City Chiefs. Those kind of the big moves in terms of departures for the Cowboys. We all know that they sat out free agency in terms of the first week and Thomas went to the Baltimore Ravens and whatnot. But things have kinda heated up for the Cowboys a little bit on Tuesday. They officially agreed to terms with Randall Cobb the former Green Bay Packers wide receiver. Also, former Kentucky Wildcats gonna March madness. And I liked that move. I really really liked that move. I've said a lot of places already that I believe that this is an upgrade from Colby's Lee. And a lot of people kind of scoff at that. And I get that Randall certainly has had his some injury issues and injury concerns in terms of recent history, but Randall Cobb is different slot receiver than Colby's Lee. Cole has a sense of quickness that I think is very very special. We all have knowledge that, but Randall Cobb is far greater after the catch, then call Beasley I think that goes without saying beyond that Randall Cobb can play vertically, we've never seen that from call Beasley. He's never been able to play vertically yet. Randall Cobb has that in his wheelhouse. And I think a really powerful sort of detail and all this is and I wrote about this. This should be a blog on the boys dot com by the time. You're listening to this. The Cowboys really remade their entire wide receiver group very very quickly year ago, they signed Alan Hearns, and it was okay. Well, got Allen. You've got Dez Terrance, Williams, Beasley you got. Ryan switzer. You know, how's this going to work, and then just penned Monia m- happens and everybody's gone. Alan Hearns obvious still here dealing with coming off of his own injury. But now you have a marker. You have Michael Gallup Randall Cobb take on Austin who's come back. You have Noah Brown. If you wanna give him some love, you have Devon Smith who a lot of people want to give a lot of love to you have landslide. Or and really when you think about those guys, and I'm talking about the primary guys the guys at the Cowboys are going to be counting on weekend and week out. And that's Amari Cooper, Michael Galvin, Randall Cobb all three of them can play all over the field. That's a lot of versatility. We heard the term Dak friendlier ago. It was beaten to the ground that is a lot of versatility. Whereas, you know, the previous regime for lack of a better word for the Cowboys receivers in-depth, Brian Williams, and Kobe's Lee that was very very very very structured very rigid. Very unmoving Dez Bryant was Xia transforms your y and call Beasley was your slot receiver. That was it. That's the only way that things. Got done. And now if you're the Cowboys if you're killing more, and I think we're all hoping for the best there you have the ability to put guys all over the field. That's a really amazing small yet large detail, and Randall Cobb amplifies that to to the degree Aaron Rodgers did did post on Instagram saying goodbye to Randall Cobb, obviously has been his quarterback as long as Randall's been in the NFL Aaron Rodgers quoted Shawshank, Redemption, which is one of the greatest movies of all time. So whatever glad glad that Randall upgraded quarterbacks. If you know what I mean? Oh, that's right and feeling good feeling feeling good now that we're back here on Joe. So that's big news. Other news for the Cowboys. Obviously, we know that they've brought in some pass rush help when you look at obviously the situation at pass rush is is very dicey because of Demark sloan's, and the fact that he still doesn't have a long term contract. I think everybody's still kind of holding their breath on that note, but they did send Kerry Hyder who a lot of people are extremely high on. And that's a really solid move really solid death for the Cowboys. We know that Rodman can make things happen there. We know that the Cowboys are at the time of this recording. At least in discussions with Robert Quinn. We don't know how that's going to go. We don't know how that's going to fall. We don't know if Robert Quinn is going to end up as a member of the Dallas Cowboys. There's a lot of discussion as to the price that it could take two. Trade for him with the Miami Dolphins. And a lot of people believe it could be a fourth round pick in two thousand twenty. And if you told me that's the price that that cost to Robert Quinn and reworked contract. Hey, let's do that. Let's do that right now. And a lot of people have made this point that Robert Quinn as a member the Cowboys gives you what you don't have a democracy alliance which is leverage because right now, if you're DeMarcus Lawrence, dude, you know, that you're all the Cowboys have that's why that's part of why these you can make the demands that you're making. And if you're the Cowboys, you have nothing to have no room to stand no room to stand on. So Robert Quinn, at least gives you some of that. We don't know. What's going to have ranted, Gregory, obviously right now suspended indefinitely. That's a situation that could change because the same you know, how the NFL can be. And speaking of the way that the NFL can be the latest when it comes to douse pass rushers. The hot boys is Tyrone Crawford by now you've likely seeing if not head over to blogs dot com, we have all the details for you. There. Tyrone was involved in a scuffle. Last Friday night in Florida at a bar. The initial details emerged on Tuesday Tyrone was seen shoving some people. It was kind of grainy video outside of this establishment on Wednesday TMZ who first broke this story published the video from inside. And you can see Tyrone getting into it pretty heavily with with some of the bouncers at the bar now. Joy Epstein from USA Today reported that the reason no charges were pressed because the victims involved were from Canada, I think from Ontario Canada, Tyrone Crawford if you're unaware also from Canada. So there is some Canadian love happening there. I guess or piece at the very least. But that's an important. Here's the Tyrone Crawford was not arrested. But an even more important piece is that it's the NFL. It's the court that they operate, and it's the way that they wanna roll there's already been a report of the NFL is in. Investigating this. There was a report on Wednesday morning that they were looking for the video. And the fact that TMZ beat them to video is a not shocking and be means that they no longer have to look because it exists. If you haven't seen the video, it's I mean, the what graphic is a little harsh. But it's it's definitely aggressive. And I think that if Tyron Crawford got suspended for a game or two I don't think that anybody who sinner could really argue that point now, obviously, there's two sides to every story. We don't know exactly what led to this disagreement in the first place. But from what we've seen what we do know, you know, it's certainly possible for time on Crawford to be suspended, which is what makes the potential of landing. Robert, Quinn, all the more large. So that's the other big thing. Other store too big shoot a drop this week for the Cowboys was that they hosted Eric berry for a visit now as mentioned at the top of this episode. They did not get all Thomas in free agency. They did not get Landon Collins. I did not get the guy you wanted. They didn't get anybody. We know that the Cowboys did not going to safety in free agency. But Eric berry is still out there. Now, Eric berry only played in three games or the last two seasons. We all know that we all know about. His heroic battle in terms of the obstacles he's faced as far as health are concerned rightful NFL comeback player of the year award winner by all measures. Eric berry is outstanding person outstanding safety when he's healthy. I've had a lot of discussions with the people from Eyraud head pride Espy nations Kansas City Chiefs website, and they're extremely high on air, Barry, but you know, they're they're cautious in terms of acquiring him. Yeah. I mean, he's great. And but I mean, he's so rarely healthy quotes been flying around all over the place from good friend of the show. Bobby belt that Eric berry is the Sean Lee safeties. And I think that that's definitely a fair way of putting it now if you're the Cowboys, okay? So let's say you did bring at Burien because right now a deal has not been struck at various gonna go discussed with the teams visited their teams who knows what's going to happen. But if the Cowboys somehow did land buried, then all of a sudden, your safety room has Eric your woods, Jeffy. The goat and cave on Frazier. That's not bad. I mean, that's that's not great. I don't think you're feeling stupor pumped about that. But that's not bad. I mean, you have a lottery ticket right there in berry. And you have the best scratcher offer whatever that role would be just made a job of lottery. Tickets and crystal shard imagine Eric berry patrolling Chris Rashard secondary. That sounds incredible. And so if that happens, I think there's rightful cost to celebrate. Because Eric berry is a lottery ticket now. You know, he could be a Pro Bowl caliber player or it could be a whiff because he could not be healthy. And that certainly is not something that anybody wants to see. You know, this hasn't been shocking. If you've been following the Cowboys for some time that the Cowboys have slow played this thing, they were not active in the first wave of free agency, they decided to bring back their own. We mentioned Avon Austin just in March Lillard Cam Fleming. Which was a great move to keep their swing tackle certainly there for them. But other than that the Cowboys they they did not pants. You know, a very interesting study from the QB came out on Monday morning that five of the six least active teams during the first week of free agency or in the playoffs last year. And so you hear things like that. And you say we'll maybe this is the right way to go about it. Maybe the Cowboys aren't these losers? Maybe they aren't idiots. Maybe they know what they're doing. And there is that line of thought I think that that exists because multiple things can be true. So it can be true. The Cowboys are being frugal is a harsh word, but they're being wise that would be probably the best to associated with this. Now a point that I've made several times to Tony Casillas on the seven five. Oh is that the Cowboys? Don't have a first round draft pick, and that's really really important. And I know I know they have Mario Cooper. But they don't have the ability to draft somebody in the first round. And I've said this in terms that I think made the most sense if you were Jason get I want you to just kind of imagination if you will Jason Gary, and you knew that you were in a contractor, and this is more than just a contractor for Jason because you know, your career's on the line if things don't work out for Jason Garrett with the Cowboys this season. I mean, the trajectory of the rest of his career the rest of his life, not to be dramatic here. But is very different is that not fair to say. And so if you were Jason Garrett if it were you in those shoes. Okay. And you knew that you really had to put up this season. You knew that you had to do something incredible to keep your job for to be blunt. And and what is that incredible thing? I mean, I think at the very least he has to make the NFC championship game right because a year ago. Looking at twenty the Cowboys made the divisional of the playoffs and that wasn't enough an extension. They've been there three times out of the last five years and Jason Garrett is still into contractor. So it does seem fair to say that if you had to put a measuring point on what Jason Garrett has to accomplish in two thousand nineteen the floor is the NFC title game. So if you're Jason Gary or whoever you are. I mean, if you're in that spot, and you know, that that's what you gotta do. I find it just extremely puzzling. That you would do nothing in the first wave of free agency. I mean, that's that's really bold right at the very least it's bowl. You can call it wise. You can call it, whatever. But it is at the very least very bold because your internet contractor. You have a rookie at offense coordinator who was a backup quarterback just two seasons ago. Your offense was let's be honest very very bad last season. Except for some stretches that really worked out in your favor. You cut some serious breaks. I think we look over that when it comes to the tooth. Eighteen cowboys. They won that game against the lions on a last second field. They won that game against the falcons on a last second field. They beat the eagles at home for the sweep on the season. Thanks to a tip pass ended up in Amari Cooper, hands. That's three wins right there. They want ten games. That's three wins that if one of those or two of those even all three of them go the other way that we're talking about a very different perception about the two thousand eighteen Dallas Cowboys. And so if you're Jason Garrett, and you know, all of that. And you know, that you don't have a first round draft pick and your team granted has been very very very good at finding legitimate and serious talent in the first round of the draft. You know that you do not have a first round draft pick. How can you sit idly by on your hands and watch? I mean, if it was me, I'd be smashing that panic, but I would be freaking out because I would be thinking, you know, what dude this is not my money here. All right. I have to do what I have to do this season. It has to get done now. And I don't. Have that first round draft pick the best way for me to acquire talent. Now is right here in free agency. And yet somehow someway, the Cowboys still remained relatively chill in the first week for agency. They did not land a big sexy name, but they did Landau Cobb. They are at the very least in the mix Robert Quinn and Eric berry, and if they pull that off if they if they land a triumvirate of Randall Cobb, Robert Quinn, and Eric berry than they deserve a pretty big round of applause. I didn't that that certainly was a little bit lucky. I think you know to be fair. I think that maybe things kind of fell their way, but there's something to be said about that particular strategy. And I think the Cowboys deserve some props for that. So we'll see how shakeout but right now. B minus. You know, I think that that's a little generous B minus just because right now, you still have some pretty glaring holes. You don't know what you're going to say the although exam your woods did give that interview to Dallas Cowboys dot com. And does seem ready and did have some moments that certainly warrant belief in him you need help at defensive tackle. But you do have the fiftieth overall pick fiftieth overall pick. But guess what you can only take one player you can only address one position with that pick. And so and you have to hit a home run here. I mean, you have to and let's be honest also about the state of second round picks for the Dallas Cowboys. Let's look back at this two thousand and eighteen second pit, Connor Williams. Not a home run in his first season with the Cowboys two thousand seventeen to not a home run in his first season with the Dallas Cowboys really has yet to be a home run really just kind of Williams two thousand sixteen Jalen Smith that became a home run. It was a crazy risk. But it worked out good for you two thousand fifteen Randy, Gregory, definitely not a home run. We're all rooting for. Randy. But right now, it is objectively a failure to hasn't fourteen DeMarcus Lawrence, you're in your contracts be right now it did not look like a home run for a long time. Because remember he was hurt his rookie season. He got suspended. He finally came on the twenty fifteen season. Then there was the suspension, and then he's obviously been abused ever since. But that did not like a home run two thousand thirteen hundred pick Escobar. I mean, you know, we can stop right here. The point is the Cowboys have not had a second round draft pick come in and have the immediate success the way they have had their first round draft picks. So they're going to have to wait to get that done or find a way to get that done excuse me on top of all this. And so it's a very difficult proposition. But if they pull it off again, I'll be the first guy to stand up around of the plus, so we'll see how that all goes. We will be back on Thursday, another podcast only episode of Joe live. Appreciate those of you again, reach down central. Congratulations. And who have put up with the crazy, schedule of July. But it does seem like we're settling into things. Finally when you when you have a wedding things get. A little busy. So it's a wonderful time. And and we send to be back to normal podcasts only this week. So we'll do that song and dance. So with all that being said, we will see you my neon my friends as always go Cowboys and app. My name is Spencer hall by name Jason Kurt. My name is Ryan nanny. But we combined we've form the shutdown full stran- keep telling you this forecast is technically college football podcast. But it's also a show about care disaster regional grocery stores. We live Tennessee Batman homeowners associations bears in video games. Pittsburgh Batman the hell of being transferred a group, text unreliable legal advice. I mean, there's also some actual football discussion about coaches, having used contracts coaches making terrible decisions coaches, saying really stupid things or the NC double A's saying released. Yeah, there's lots of stupid things in this big dome. 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AP Laboratory - Episode 28

Arrowhead Pride

43:20 min | 2 years ago

AP Laboratory - Episode 28

"Path everybody thinks joined today by Swanson the lead. The lead analyst for Harrow head pride. You're listening to the AT laboratory insta- reaction really to deport traded by the Kansas City Chiefs for twenty twenty second round pick. We're going to get talking about that draft capital. And what we think about that in this in a minute. But speaking of draft capital just wanted to make sure you guys knew about the Casey draft guide that myself Matt lane Craig style, Jake stack we all are putting together we're really excited to show you guys it's a guy devoted to how players specifically fit the Kansas City Chiefs, and we're going to have over two hundred ride ups talking about prospects and how they relate to the chiefs. It's gonna be really cool. I hope you guys get a chance to take a look at it. Go to gum dot, CO dot CO slash Casey draft and in honor of the Honey badger who were going to talk about here in a minute promo code badger gets you three dollars. Twenty cents off of our nine dollar ninety nine cent guide. So you can pre-order it. Now, it releases April eighth and we've got our biggest discount going right now. So Damian Wilson love. No, we're not we're not we're not adding a debut Wilson, promo code. He did he signed for like five point six million dollars over two years. We are not giving him a promo code backers matter Sam linebackers matter. I mean, I mean, I, yeah, you're right. And now they have one that definitely solves all their problems. And they're not gonna invest anything movies. The play thirty percent of the snap. So therefore, you just give somebody I don't know thirty percent of the guide. I mean, that's not a terrible idea. But we're not doing that. Because. No trade flexibility in this job guys. Hey, anybody out there hiring? I need a joint place fight. Here's here. We're going to do it fight promo code Damian gets you three dollars off the guide because David Wilson is gonna play thirty percent of the snaps. This is not Dave. Anything important to talk about we're going to spend two minutes talking about this promo code Damian. If you go to gum dot CO slash Casey, draft, enter promo code, Damian, dealing though m I a, you know, God for six ninety nine and I'll tell you what you know, what let's do this. Because we we gotta give away guy puts the man's name. Can we put some respect on the man's name? DAM? I e n okay see this is a good promo code Damian with an e. A M I E N gets you the guide for six dollars ninety nine cents. Go to gum dot CO slash Casey draft. And I'll tell you what we're gonna do this first person to enter Damian with an A gets a free guide. That Kersee of courtesy of Carrington Harrison our guy follow him on Twitter at cdot Harrison. Okay. Can we start the show? Now is that? Okay. Let's go that that was on. I love that. That was on on the podcast. I don't you know at this point. There's just too much. I needed something to blow off some steam it. Apparently, I just need to Ray about promo codes for three minutes. I don't know. But let's let's go ahead. Let's go ahead and get this thing going guys. Great news. I've just kidding. We'll see. I I have a feeling you guys aren't going to happy about this d Ford the chiefs leading Pash rusher last year. Most pressures in the National Football League is traded to the said Francisco forty Niners for a two thousand twenty second round pick Craig I thought what do you think about the compensation for deferred? I I wish that they would have gotten something this year, obviously. Yeah. I feel like waiting till twenty twenty doesn't really affect the fact that the chiefs currently does. Don't have any good pass rushers. Now. Obviously this this move doesn't happen in a vacuum. And for all those people saying, you know, well, if they let d Ford walked in. He would have been a third round compensatory pick that compensatory pick would count against the formula four twenty twenty one based on what we've seen for Brett VH with move. He's made so far. Brit veto is not playing kids favorite formula chiefs that she's had Mitch Morris on the ledger for the highest compensatory pig possible before they signed the Honey badger. We'll talk about having a minute. So yeah, no. They had a perfect chance of the third around picking twenty twenty. Now, they've guaranteed themselves. Twenty twenty second. What do you think about the compensation here? I guess two different ways to look at it. When you're going in the back, you just for what four just went for a don't think it's great. I think as a chief's fan or just gonna watch watched football last year, you expect him to fetch more than what is roughly equivalent to a third round pick of this year for forged up. Like, it's just a second round pick next year. We don't know where the forty Niners are going to be picking. But odds are they're going to be quite a bit better than they were this year with a healthy quarterback. Now, adding Ford they're gonna pick second in the draft. So they're going to come out of there with a Williams or a both. And they're all of a sudden have a very good defense of better offense. You don't know where they're gonna be picking? So this could be a mid to late second round pick next year for Ford that you have to wait a year to us. But like Craig said this move is made in a vacuum. Excuse me. They definitely have some other kind of pick or move coming in. There is something coming around the corner. This move is made hastily today. It was made before the free. Nsee actually opened. There is something coming with this money that would save and it's going to be more than just resigning Chris Jones or extending tyreek hill there's something that they needed this money for and they wanted it, and they went out and got it and got decent compensation return. Even if it's a little bit less than I think most people thought he was worth at this point in time. Yeah, I I would have liked to have an asset this year to play with because they're still in that Mahomes window, right? They're trying. They're pushing for good things. This is the second straight year that the chiefs are going to root for an NFC west team to suck. And last year it didn't turn out so hot because the guy that they wound up, you know, obviously Marge Peterson have a great year, but they wound up having a great season. They went to the Super Bowl they literally as close to winning a Super Bowl as they could. So now the chiefs have the sixty third pick. So this year, we're just we're rooting for NFC team and see west team is suck again. Hopefully, they do I wish terrible things on the San Francisco forty Niners. Not anything injury related. Just I hope that just everything is I hope I hope to just blows up. I hope Shanahan just loses his mind. You know? I hope I I hope you know, Robert, Sal, or whatever his name is is just he just he just like doesn't figure it out at all. Like all these new pieces. He just can't use them. Like he lines up default at corner or something he just has like a a mild hiccup in his brain or something just bad things to happen to the San Francisco forty Niners on the field. That's. What what do you think d- Ford's hips would look like as a corny think he's fluid enough to be able to make that transition this to this draft class? Joe ones out the same sizes them. So Joe wants got fluid hips, we this isn't the draft show. No talking talking about a prospect kit before. All right. I want to ask you guys. Why is default not here? Just like like we talked a little bit last week. Let's try to just kinda give our theories we kind of through some ideas out about what it could be Mattie in your hearts wise, default not here. Says very clearly in like pick the words carefully d Ford fits eight four three D Ford is gonna play a four three and San Francisco de Ford is gonna play the Leo or weakside defensive end for the San Francisco forty Niners. He doesn't fit quite as well for spags defense because spags always preferred a little bit more length. He prefers his defensive line across the board to play against the run a little bit more while he gets a little bit more speed behind them to chase things down from side to side. Doesn't mean he's not looking for good pass rushers. Just if you look back through his teams, he's drafting a little bit bigger in a little bit longer ends and rush guys to set up on the line, which just doesn't quite fifty four. It's not that he doesn't fit the scheme. He just doesn't have the exact traits that spags of looked for in the past. And it's not that he's a bad fit. He's just not going to be on the team Jon this year. No matter what happened. They went out and got something form that they could use their clearly gonna dress. At some point in time. Craig how about you? So anything here with this situation. You know, any reasons like, what are you buying for the reason that default is no longer here? I think the only real reason why I would buy the he's not really here is that Steve Spagnolo doesn't think that he's long enough to play on the edge there and that the chiefs weren't ever really planning to sign him long term. So they were looking to get something just something at all. And like like Matt said he fits and not only does he fit in the four three he fits in the four to which is where the chiefs are going to play the most this season in the nickel seventy percent of the time. You need pass rushers on that. So the fact that they're moving on from him means that there is some kind of plan. They're not just going in there with Bruin speaks and a wish on the other side. So I think that clearly, you know, he just he just didn't make sense for. I can't go back to. I just I do wonder if they just don't trust is back. Holy I you know, I you look they're trying to get compensation now. They get good compensation for twenty twenty. They basically get better than a compensatory pick that they wouldn't have gotten anyway to Craig's point because Brett vs would have spent all the money anyway. But I just do wonder if they're just they're trying to get out early. They're moving on. They don't trust the back completely. I just I can't escape that. Like, it doesn't make a ton of sense. I can't justify scheme. I can't justify scheme for like. I don't buy the scheme things that much. It's just I mean, I know there's hints of it. Like, yeah. There's might be some truth to it. But he's still very productive pass rusher. So that's kinda weird. I I think I think there's border that story. I think there's gotta be some lack of trust with his back. Okay. We're moving on guys where do they go from here? They've got a lot of rush options that they're going to have to try to figure out. I mean, they they've got they've got to try to sort through, you know, whatever's left in the free agency. They've got some options in the draft. Hello, I'll just say this right now. And then Matty, I'm gonna have you kinda talk through some rush options. I will eat my hat. Oh, no. I will eat. I will eat this. I will eat. I'm going to tweet this out later. I will eat the tweet if the cheese pig at twenty nine. To take for you dubbing rights bowl. So I will eat at Chipotle label. If the chiefs out eat a AAA bowl to Matt's liking. If you eat a bowl that cheeser twenty day it would three days to nibble on my triple limbo. Well, no, this is how it's gonna work if the chiefs pick twenty-ninth actually picked twenty-ninth I will eat a Chipotle bowl. How you design it? But it can't be like quadruple meat like, I mean, I'm balling on a budget here. Okay. Double meet fine. You want me to not eat rice. Okay. I will support label to your liking if the cheese by cheese lettuce. I mean. I mean, that's that's fine. That's fine. I bet you pretty cheap. I don't think that the chiefs are paying twenty nine. I think that barring some kind of crazy release or trade of another edge player. I think that she's are trading up. I feel pretty confident right now saying they're trading up for an edge rusher. I mean, obviously, it depends on how the board falls. If you have six eggs rushers go in the top ten it's not gonna happen. But if you get somebody I think you're kind of looking at Cleland feral seems to be on the outs of the top guys just based on a lack of elite testing or doing all this testing so far or Brian burns concerns over size and run defense or true. He is closer to before burns that is closer to Ford these other guys, but he's longer. He's got a little bit more room to keep growing. He's not a perfect fit based on what we heard about Ford. But he's still got look at Ferrell's like pretty much perfect for three defensive end. Those are the guys that look out for the chiefs trading up the draft. I'm still in board though, Siamese young not young and old. Veteran cheap. Prove it edge rusher. Free agency, Ziggy ounces one that comes to mind. I'm okay with shack bear, it would even be ok markets. Golden there's plenty of guys out there that I think could get for reasonable price tag for one year to help bridge the gap, Dan, I throw Vinny curry into that James sort of older free agency guys that make sense. But they're not guys that you're really counting on to kind of carry the load your counting on them as a rotational guy with this rookie that you're having to trade up for now. I mean, it couldn't be more clear now that the chiefs are attacking an edge player in the draft. Yes, they they moved on from just in Houston. And fort in the span of what forty eight hours, seventy two hours. I don't remember exactly when Houston was cut. But honestly, all these days of run together creek. So absolutely they have. So the chiefs are definitely going into this off season with no. Pass rushers. They have to go get one. It just so happens to be a good pass rusher draft. I just think that they're trading up for that specific position. And that's all of it. And I'll just say, I don't think the chiefs are setting out to get twenty two sec production from two guys, you know. I think what this is. I think they're going to cobble pressure together. So you're going to hope that Damian with an e Wilson is able to to to get a couple of sacks. You're hoping tyrant. Matthew. We'll talk about here in a second is gonna you know be able to generate you know, three four five sacks. I mean, it's it's gonna be a group effort, and you know, like, it it could it could be possible. Chris Jones is still I mean, I don't know if they're going to lead the NFL and sacks next year, but they're still going to be able to generate pressure. They're still going to be able to affect the quarterback is just going to be different than how they've done it. And they're going to have to spread that cap space around to kind of try. And and cobbled together enough pressure. Speaking of that cap space. That's a big piece of this. What do you think that they're going to do now? Like, I mean with that cap space what what's the plan here? What do you think that they have earmarked for that cap space because I mean, they're definitely making moves with they're not sitting on that money. What do you think the plan is now? I think that probably they've got to go get a corner if they're trading up for an edge rusher. We you joked earlier that this corner class is not very good. It's not it's got a couple of guys at the top. And then it really falls off in a hurry. But they they've gotta get an impact guy guy that can start on the outside. They don't have that guy at all Steven Nelson signed today for over eight million dollars a year in Pittsburgh, see, Steve. So they've got to go get a guy in the dress or infre- agency Ronald Darby's out there. Maybe they make a trade. They've got some assets here in the draft, and they can find a team that's looking for a day to pick. They have six of them. Now over the next two years. Maybe they can make a move to try and get a guy that teams trying to shed a little bit of cap space to make another signing that would make some sense. But I think all of it's gonna. Come in to that cornerback position. We're going to be active. I already mentioned just some cheaper one. You can approve it deal edge rushers then you can look at the same thing along the defensive line. But I'm also not ruled out another safety at this point in time. I think at some point in time we're going to cross the tire and Matthew berry bridge tonight with you guys. But I'm not real not signing another safety. There's still plenty of quality ones out there right now, there's some guys could be had for cheap. Then there's a couple of guys hog Clinton Dix if you really wanna get wild. If you're dead set on paying two safeties thirty million dollars to play together. Go ahead and go sign Earl Thomas as well. And just move on from berry if you're dead set on that being your move if not you got trae. Boston's ha ha Clinton Dix doesn't have a very big market right now. I don't know what he's going to command. There's guys out there global Quinn's in older guy, but he can come in and play for a couple years while you mold another young players. So you have safety options out there that you can get Craig mentioned the corners. And I still think at some point in time you're getting another offense of player don't know who were where tied in wide. Seve or something. There's going to be other moves made they cleared space for something in besides Darby, and Earl Thomas, you don't have a big money free agent left on the market for the chiefs to go after. So there's gonna be multiple players in my opinion coming in at some point in time. Right. And I guess like the way I look I don't think that you know, all these things that are things we've talked about ready. You know, like we've talked about over the course of months is, you know, maybe they go, you know, they're going to probably address cornerback in free agency. They might look to trade for cornerback in free agency. They might look to you know, someone's gonna wanna come play on the offensive side of the football. That's going to be enticing that could be potential value. I think these are all things that we're talking about. I just think I think what we know. Now is like more of those options are available multiple of those options are available. They're able to spread fifteen point five million dollars on the cap this year around a little bit to identify some spots. And and maybe Phil. Fill some spots with some warmer bodies. Right. You know, like some better players. So I think that's kind of where I look at it. I just say they're they've got more flexibility more than this. You know, it's earmarked for this player in this player. I think they're just they have the ability to do a variety of things now. And I don't think I hate that idea is spreading some of this cap across the roster across the landscape, better roster, Bill depth, build more players and hope that some of these players ascend. I mean, you'll maybe debuted Wilson gives you a little juice off the edge next year. Maybe they're able to generate three or four sacks off with him and stuff, you know. I think that's and that's kind of an optimistic perspective. But I think that's kind of the hope is just put some money. Cross the board and see what happens right? Okay. We're gonna move on from D Ford. Best of luck to Ford. Hope. Everything happens really happy that you got all the money seem like a nice, dude. Good money. Good money for him seventeen point five million dollars a year over five years. Congratulations, forty forty five million dollars guaranteed. So I mean, that's I right. I mean, whatever solely by that was pretty obvious that it was coming his way the guaranteed that surprised me a little bit though. I was surprised when he was willing to throw that much from now based on what you've seen the overall. I mean price that seems about right compared to what we've seen other guys get religion. Sure. One of the one of the deals that the chiefs have struck since we've last fellows, and you could find a really well written article from Craig style on aero had pride about the Tarrant Matthew, which the Honey badger, the Honey badgers here is the money badger this true, I t million dollars. Year fourteen million dollars yet. We don't know the guaranteed yet. We're gonna probably find out the guaranteed figures. Tomorrow. Ian, Rappaport, said fourteen million guaranteed, and if that's the case like that's a baller move breath. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely killer move. I just wonder if I just wonder if slipped his tongue because like fourteen billion like our if you just try say fourteen a year, but he said for it to guaranteed because if this fourteen million key would come out by now and be like, hey, hold up guys. That's not what I meant. Because it's made. It's like you. You're not wrong. It could not wrong. Okay. So Craig you you've you've Dovan on tired, Matthew. What what do you think about him? What do you think about the move? You know, the word for Matthew is what everybody said since since you know, the chiefs assigned him. He's versa. He plays all over the place. He he plays as deep safety plays this box safety. He plays as a slots safety slash corner. He plays all over the place. And he's got the range speed size aggression, all of that cover skills to do every single one of those things at an above average level. He's not going to be necessarily the same deep safety. Earl Thomas was he's not going to be the same box safety that Landon Collins was but inspect Nola scheme. If he's asking these guys to play a lot more match zones were guys are going to get matched up and have to carry routes vertically and throughout the entire routes guys. Like, Landon Collins having to cover deep and cover through the entire route Trie, maybe make a little bit less since I still think that Collins can do it but make less sense than a guy. Like, the Honey badger that can go out there and be able to run with all these guys and fit into literally any coverage shell that. Steve Spagnolo can ask him to do. I think is a really good signing. I think he's a leader on and off the field. I think he's a dude that Houston is very sad to see him go. So that's always a good thing. And he was only there for one year. It's not like he had an established relationship with that city. He showed up and owned that locker room that had JJ watt in it. So I think he's a guy that's really gonna help change the culture on that side of the ball, which we all know is very. And he's going to be a guy that can contribute and be able to play in the versatile way that Steve spagnuola wants, Mattie. Yeah. I'm just gonna ask you straight up. I wanna ask you this. What like we saw the laundry list of positions that tired Matthew lined up. What's his primary position? Where does he lineup up the most snaps for the chiefs next year? It's tough to say for the chiefs. I mean, I'm gonna fall back on what he's done the best going based off of PF grades where Houston line the most in where he'd been trending since his last injury. And after two thousand fifteen Zoda, I think you're gonna see him play closer the line of scrimmage more than you're going to see him play deep or the slot. These playing Bach safety role the traditional one that you've seen from spags you if he gets more coverage duties out of it. He's still going to be matched up with slot receivers sometimes running backs in tight ends. He's be matching them. So he's going to take them on certain routes. There's plenty of man elements there, but he's a very good run defender despite his size, and no you look at his athleticism to size people have mmediately thrown free safety and the three main things at a safety does van coverage box and play deep. He's played deep safety by far the least in his career not that he can't do it. But that's just where he's played the least. So I would lean towards implying in the box more than but he can play either one that Craig said, I think it really depends who they're gonna play next to. Him and he can kind of do whatever. After that. That was one of the big things that I got when looking through it and read it through Craig's great article than watching myself is he's just so darn good in the box moving through traffic, avoiding blockers either crossing the field vertically and just avoiding traffic or cutting through blitzes or trying to get runs in the backfield. So I'm putting me of the box on letting them eat from there. And the biggest thing I to touch on that leadership. He came out and said that he was an air Zona. He took a bag seat to Claes Campbell Patrick Peterson. Because they were there. It was their team. He let them do their thing and just provided intensity. He went to Houston. They have JJ watt. Davey and cloudy. They have guys veterans in the secondary tired Matthew just showed up and said, I'm going to be the leader. Here. It looks like they need a leader. I'm going to be that guy in everybody in that organization said so he was pretty much that from day one. That is what the chiefs needed. That's why I'm okay with paying him or I was okay with paying Landon Collins over what we saw more value because those guys are leaders that are going to bring it all every single snap. You'll. Get that my pink to safety seven million each you don't get that kind of leadership from those guys you get it from the top flight guys. So I think that's a huge thing in. Why you kinda gotta look at the money in a different light. Yeah. Now, I think that's fair. And I tend to agree with you. I I want tired Matthew near the line of scrimmage. I think that's where we've seen him have a lot of success, and it does kind of create some issues here. I I want to jump in. I mean, Eric berry. There's I mean, there's a lot of questions about Eric berry. And I want to get to that here in a second. I do want to ask Craig, you know, we've talked with you know, what you guys have charted about Spag knoll about how there's been a very defined box and free safety role. Right. So if tired Matthews got this versatility that he's able to do so much is that Spag knows taking spaniel taking a year off in pitying to find more ways to use a guy like Matthew or explain that. Like, I I I'm I'm just thinking out loud. Like, obviously, this is speculation. But it seems like. There's been some rigidity to his roles with his safety's. Now, you've got a guy with some versatility. There definitely is that that sort of static roles with the deep guy and a box guy. But I think that part of that is special even said that when he took a year off that he spent a lot of time watching film watching the college game as well watching what teams were doing watching kind of the spread offense has has evolved greatly since he took over in two thousand seven and was the giants defensive coordinator, he talks about regularly self valuating kind of figuring out how to use guys where to us guys. There's a great little coverage video that he did with NFL films, and one of the things that he said in there is that if you're static your beat. And I love that. I mean, he should have hybrid coverages. He should be a guy. That's that's sort of shifting and rotating and trying to keep offense as guessing and match. Ching is patterned match. Coverages are definitely that. It could simply be that. He took some time off evaluated the landscape of the NFL saw where it was going and recognized that he needs these hybrid style defenders to come and do that. Now, that's not to say that he's going to go full Bob on it. Right. Where he wants guys that are just okay things. He's not gonna put a guy in a spot just to put a guy in a spot. But having a guy that's well above average at literally everything is going to be a boon for this defense and be able to allow him to kind of shift. His coverage calls a little more. Okay, mattie. I wanna ask you that. We're we're gonna move onto Eric berry because I mean, look Tarez paler is come out. He's he's said on on the radio that if the cheese get in on one of these pride premium safeties Eric Bury's likely gone, Eric berry as of this as of this recording right now is currently Kansas City Chiefs. Man. Do you think Eric Bury's gone? Yes. I do you have a couple more days to find out for sure. And if he's here past that. And that's another bridge. We'll have to have that conversation next week. I mean one way or the other this conversations being had again next week, whether these here not here, that's absolutely fine. But if I'm betting right now, I don't think you go out and spend fourteen million dollars on the safety. If you're actually expecting to keep in for to be here. I mentioned earlier to go out and sign Earl Thomas spend all this money at safety. That's just kind of joking thing because you spend that much of your cap space on the safety position in if you are you better be darn sure guys are gonna play. I don't know how you can have this confidence that aired berries gun apply, and it might not be purely injury late related. So I don't see how you keep them. I don't see how you roster his money going forward. You can save a ton. But some by designating imposed gym, I do it rip the band aid off move on collect that money for your draft picks give you a little bit more. This year. Yeah. And let me let me touch on this because there's been a lot of conversation about the cap hit for Eric berry and a little bit of confusion here. Eric berry is due seven point two five million dollars of his contract to be guaranteed on Friday. So there will be a move that happens. But if he's on the roster on Saturday, he's going to be on the roster four twenty nineteenth. So we'll know immediately. This isn't going to be a thing that gets dragged out we're going to know very soon if you outright cut him you save one point five five million dollars against the twenty nineteen cap, and you free up thirteen and a half million dollars for twenty twenty that fifteen point five million dollars against the cat. If you designate him as a post June. I cut you save nine point five five million dollars on twenty nineteen. So a little more on twenty nineteen and five and a half million on twenty twenty again, fifteen point five million dollars. Just a matter of how you're living it up if you want it to be a little more on the twenty nineteen cap, you could designate. As June first cut and have that they're now, here's the thing where everybody kind of gets a little bit lost on this. Everybody kinda looks at it. As if we just wait until next year will save more cat by cutting berry. Then you write it out. That's not the case. Eric Bury's has dead money of eight million dollars in twenty twenty if you cut him outright, or if you cut him as a June, I cut this year. So it is the exact same amount of money that you save against the cap if you wait until next year, or if you cut him as a June first cut in twenty twenty yes, Ken out his ad that was June first when you designate someone as opposed June first cut, so they would just cut him this year or this week if they were to to move on from a day cut him tomorrow Thursday Friday, and they would not be allowed to use that cap space that they say with the post June. I designation. Until after June first, so they're really not gonna have that cap available until after June first now that that shouldn't be a problem because you just spend all of your available all all your available space now right now, and then after June first that nine and a half million dollars is you know, you could use that to sign some or all of your rookies you could use that space as kind of your emergency fund during the season win. You know, you need to go find and make an investment. So that's how that they can utilize that cap space to their advantage. This year us everything up to that nine and a half million. And that's basically your emergency fund for the two thousand in one thousand nine season. So that's how it all makes sense. That's why it makes sense to move on for mayor berry. I don't I don't think Craig. Did you something else? You wanted to one more you can't June. I in twenty twenty you can't use the June first cut in twenty twenty per guy over at six ten Brandon Kylie. He. Brought this up and I looked it up and confirmed it as well on the last year of a current CBA. You cannot designate a player as a June first cut twenty twenty is the last year. So they don't have an option to sort of push that into the future again for next year if they're moving on from Eric berry. They just don't have another option other than to outright cut him in twenty twenty. And so I mean like, I think there's a lot of things that just they don't add up with with Eric berry being on this roster moving forward. I know every single person on Twitter has quote tweeted might clay today saying per reports that Eric berry is going to be moving on when they were listing. Justin, Houston deformed. We'll see. I mean, I I think it's a very logical move to move on from Burien. I know there's a lot of emotion behind this. Frankly, like, it may not seem like it. But I think there is for all of us to we appreciate your berry. We, you know, we all grew up watching your hair. I mean, Craig was in Craig was in his forties. When Eric berry was drafted. But you know for us. I mean, like this is a guy that I was in college when Eric berry was selected, right? And you know, I followed him through you know, big piece of my phantom. I what that guy's been through phenomenal. And how he's been able to persevere. But I mean, it's it's also, you know. This is a business, and it might be time to move on from bay. We'll find out here shortly. Couple other moves guys. We'll we'll get to Damian Wilson. How about that? We gotta talk about another move to the chiefs made two years five point six million dollars total for a a potential Sam linebacker, Mattie. I think the word potential is used very loosely because he's just about the only Sam that she's. I think we can go ahead. I think you save take pin on that one. You might wanna have white out handy. Just in case something happens. But I think you can put that one in pain Damian Wilson's probably gonna lineup as you Sam. That's what he did last year for Dallas. That's what he's best that fits that rule perfectly. I've only made it through a game and a half so far. But I think he's a guy that when you start watching them you see what he does well really early on. And then you see what he struggles with really early on if not for his play. But by the fact that anytime that it's a passing down. He comes off the field. It's very simple to see the one or two pass plays a game that he's on the field that he's just not super comfortable and space drop into coverage in west. He's just kind of covering shallow zone into the flat where he's breaking down hill, which is fine. That's what he's going to be used for. He's gonna take shallow zones work as way to the flat. He's out there to help. Stop the run these great at it. He dominates titans when he's on the line of scrimmage. He's more than willing to mix it up with an offense of tackle hold the edge. So he's this perfect. Sam. He's this Jag that just another guy saying that we've been talking about for a while. Now that she's don't have to go spend the draft pick on one Latam. They three they might. But they don't have to any more. He is what you should have been expecting all the long as the Sam is funded. Jamie Collins would have been it just made more sense for this to be the case based on history in the fact that you're gonna only run him out there a third of the snaps. Absolutely. And on top of that. If you look at the deal that they gave him they gave him pretty low money not like vet men or anything like that. But pretty low money about what it would cost by the way to go to Houston and pull Brennan scarlet away on his restricted free agent arrested saying him, we could have had Brennan scarlet for about the same money as Damian Wilson. But now he's a guy that just kind of fills a role and he's going to line up that Sam like Matt said twenty twenty five. Percent of the snaps, and and he's going to contribute Justice, a run defender and a flat pass coverage defender, I wouldn't count on anything major from him. I wouldn't count on him to be you know, some big factor in the game. He's just kinda kinda be that guy that rotates in on rushing downs. I was I was kinda surprised to see them. I I'll just be Frank with you guys. I had no idea who Damian Wilson was until four hours ago. I did not see did it watches much. Anthony Hitchens Cowboys tape. I did. I did I wasn't responsible for that. They god. So no, I did not know who he was. I don't keep up with Dallas Cowboys linebackers. So it's a good linebacker group. You actually you're tired of watching the chiefs. It's fun kit. Let me tell you this year. They're fun. Yeah. So I kill for Jalen shoddily right now. Let's be all right. Even Sean Lee. Like, Sean Lee plays less never mind there. My. That's not a that's not even that's not a good joke. Right now about today. Not too soon even to early. I just I mean, Sean Lee hasn't played much the last few years. That's all. Okay. I wanna talk real talk real big little quick about Carlos too because the chiefs they brought Carlos added to the mix as well. They they got another running back. I'll start with Maddie IDO. This is a guy that you were really excited to see the chief side. And I think you have to look past little stint with Cleveland Jacksonville. You got to go back to Frisco when he was getting more run out of the shotgun. When he had a little risk of an offense. It's what the kids call San Francisco Frisco. Real cool, and hit can't I have the hair flip down at everything. Man. There's a certain mix a lot song where he calls it for SCO. The what's up what's up? What's up? This podcast continue to you. Please continue. I wanna hear more survey. A lot. I used to have this. I used to have a lot of that song memorised. Good so tied. Carlos I go back. You gotta watch in Frisco, San Francisco. Sorry, I can't say fiscal around Kent, you'll get you. You're gonna go back looking before the foot injury. I know this is a ways back now. But that's why it's cheap contract for a guy is extremely talented. He was at Ohio State with Zeke, Elliot, yes. I think it was pretty clear that Elliott was a better player, but hide was still able to take touches away from keep him as his backup for awhile. He's a big bodied running back. He moves pretty well. He's light on his feet. He catches the ball. Well, and he's very good in pass protection. And reality he Spencer wear that is just had a little bit higher upside at some point in his career, and he's going to get about the same money. They were gonna pay Spencer where it's just a nice little move to make came out and told you they were going to sign or draft a big running back with soft hands. They went and did it immediately. Again, it should be an open book with this one. He said, hey, this is what I like this is what I love Carlos Hyde got cut. You're coming to Kansas City, and we're not gonna let you leave. We're gonna take you to Q thirty nine in order real barbecue chicken sandwich. I I'm a big Carlos Hyde fan too. I wrote I wrote on him. I think he's a perfect fit for what the chiefs tried to accomplish. He's capable in the past game. You actually, you you back and watch the Frisco tape. He has a couple nice routes. He wasn't just running swing routes and flat routes and catching over the ball on check down like he actually had a little bit around tree to them. I think he can do you're right. The things that Spencer where was asked to do. I think you could probably put him on on a seem kind of the same way that Spencer where did too. He's got that capability in them. I think it is. I think there's value to him too. I don't think I think he's I think he's better than Spencer where I think he's got a better chance of producing and potentially staying healthy too. We'll see this year than Spencer. Where would so I think there's plenty of juice left in him. And I think they're going to get a good value this year. I think that I think Damien Williams still the guy that's gonna wind up leading the committee. I think he's earned that opportunity. He's been in the system for a long time. But if Carlos Hyde if you had to lean on him and ask him to do what Damien Williams does he pretty much can and he can carry a load the same way Damien did late in that season. So he's insulated that position a little bit here. I like the move. So we going to answer some questions in the mail bag, but we don't have time because so much stuff has happened. Apologies for that. But. We'll we'll go ahead. And we'll we'll we'll catch next time. We'll try to answer more questions down the road. 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"L had pride radio on six ten sports radio. Here your hosts editor in chief at Arrowhead pride dot com. Pete Sweeney and former chiefs linebacker Shawn barber yet here, the drums, and you know, what that means time. What's get your favorite? Our the week. Sarid pride radio editor in chief Barra had pride dot com. Pete Sweeney here with the linebacker Shawn barber American dream dusty lichens behind the glass on the twenty fifth anniversary of the last chiefs home playoff win and four days before the divisional match up between the chiefs and the colts ski line long week. We'll get into our thoughts about the match us before we do that, Sean as usual. Tell me something good four points going into two thousand nineteen as we hashtag blessed by the best one. I want you to focus on your spiritual relational help health to what you focus on your. Emotion on your mental health three. I want to also focus on your physical and financial health and number four last, but not least have a growth mindset. That's my. Read that one more time go through it, again, number one is going to be spiritual relationship health, number two, emotional and mental health number three, physical and financial hill. And number four have a growth mindset now, are you just talking directly to me? Or is this just general advice for the public? Those are just four of my twelve prayers. Then my church Adamy for two thousand one third of. Yeah. We're going to four for the beginning of these. I don't wanna hit you with twelve. Could you might lose focus? So those are the first four so for the first quarter to seize spoke on those four you can't prepare today. Usually, you're you have to think about your something good off the top of your head on my like that you came to prepared, Sean what's the name of this program that we do this is era here pride rate. Right airhead pride radio. So in our had pride has mentioned nationally. We're gonna play it. I this morning on good morning football. I learned this week that Patrick Mahomes as more than just a playoff game to win this weekend. He's got. Entire city at tire fan base and twenty four years of heartache pain and torture to expunge as well. Is that too much to say on the show is that an exaggeration? Have you spoken to achieve spin this week that I knew that she's fans had some scar tissue for some bad January disappointments over the last quarter century, but I had no idea the extent of that misery until I was more or less adopted by their fan base for being a fan of Patrick Mahomes. Earlier this season, it has been crazy. The tweets the emails the text from people with eight one six Erico to I don't even have their number saying what about this game? I can't sleep. This is more than just message board fodder on Eyraud head pride or an off shock situation. This has become all encompassing. And if you're not aware of the facts eight you're not chief's fan who's been through it or be you're not watching sports TV this week guys. Kansas City only six and playoff games. Played in aero had stadium since nineteen ninety four. Each one of those losses has its own sad story, and every she knows exactly where they were. When LIN ELLIOTT missed the when Payton manning up and down the field of punters were nowhere to be seen. And last year when Marcus mariota threw a pass that was deflected off a hall of fame quarterback we acquired midway through the season. And it went off his hands into Morio fans. And then right into this stuff. Like that doesn't happen. Can happen on the road. It's used them only in aero head. Elliott was one of the best pictures football field goals in ten seven walk. Guys, those teams they didn't have something that this one. Patrick Mahomes as their chief. Seems that lost those six games did not have unlikely MVP suiting up for them. This goes out, Paul Rudd this robbery go gotta do it. This goes out to Jason biggest Melissa Ethridge to the folks who Alicia gates McCue guys. The Red Sox beat the Yankees until they did it becomes could win series until they in the seventies. Could not beat the Oakland A's until nineteen seventy six when they freaking it is time to get rid of the curse and the difference. Is that man Patrick Mahomes? Don't live in fear. Believe believe believe Saturday afternoon is a new day, and it will all change because a twenty three year old future. MVP is going to exorcise demons for everyone in Kansas City this weekend. It is a new day Kansas City. It's okay to breathe this coming four thirty on Saturday. I want you to enjoy. Peter Schrager of NFL network talking about the chiefs in what they have a chance to do this weekend. If you didn't hear him the first time if it's more than just message board fodder on Eyraud head pride. I don't know if we need it all depressing reruns of what has happened before. But you buying what he's putting down here that this is different. Finally, you're on one of those teams what this little phone Hsi-wei going on here in Kansas City. I think you know, you buy a new house. I don't care who dad in that house. I don't care what happened in that house to to me. It's my new house you come in there. And you put your in your phone your union Yang. You put all those things. Now, you wanna make sure you've got a good aura you coming with your little triangle bail and little incense around the house. You do all that stuff to make sure all the Mojo at home is just the way you like it. I think that's what Pat Mahomes. He's laid foundation here. I don't see this uneasiness. I don't see the fan base that is up at night and that sleeping and having nightmares about. All these playoff losses of the past the one thing, I know is I'm having great nothing. I would call them lucid dreams as Mamane juice world. We haven't some lucid dreams as we think of our MVP candidate leading our MVP. I number one ranked team in the AFC for home game against cheat coats team who ain't played nobody beater Schrager on NFL network. You heard a mention Lynn Elliott Elliott actually joined fest go in the morning, you haven't heard it listened to the podcast page. There's different strategies on us. You know, some people in Kansas City. I think like fest go, for example, there exercising some demons this week. I think there are different ways to handle it. But I think you're right. I think the bottom line here is when you have a quarterback that is like Patrick Mahomes things are different. Now. You may not get the win on Saturday. If you don't what I'm trying to tell you is. Breath. Because if you don't I'm not trying to put that negativity in the air because it's not going to last. I don't particularly love this match for the chiefs and my going to predict them, I think so do I think it's going to be done fight. Yeah. Ken, they lose for sure. But don't I think categorize it? If that happens with the past because this is still a new era, it's any given Sunday in this case any given Saturday to me, you have Patrick Mahomes wipe away clean, no matter. What the result on Saturday? For me. Definitely. We have a clear sleep. It's it's clear clear sale in for the ship. One thing. Andy Reid does. He's he puts everybody on the same path. Everybody's in the same direction the GM head coach the players. It's all hands on board right now. It's all about getting a win on Saturday at Arrowhead to keep you have to you have to make your future this point. There's no no game scheduled pass Saturday. That's the only game. The chiefs are worried about if they wanna future game if they wanna AFC champs game. They have to make it happen on Saturday. We are going to have the Arrowhead pride tailgate coming at you previewing the game for two hours on Saturday. But after this break, we're gonna talk a little bit about our first initial thoughts. But before we do I want to just go through this the news that we have from today. And that's the fact that only one chief one chief mispractice story and Daniel Eric berry Sammy Watkins, Spencer where were all limited of those three. Obviously, it's not Spencer where so I should say of those two. To Eric berry. Sammy Watkins who in your mind is more important that returns full health on Saturday. I think I've always said against the ending up coats out of think the having availability of Sammy Watkins Alana, why receiver to keep the safety split and as long as those safeties keep split having to worry about why receiving wear was he too. It makes easy easy pickings for one Travis Kelsey, I mentioned we're going to get into it. But I look at this cult St. fence it isn't elite, but it's capable. I don't know if you can necessarily say the same thing about the chiefs. I know you'd probably argue that point. But I think about that. And I say you need all your weapons because I think when it comes down to it. We don't know the status of Eric berry. We don't know how healthy he's going to be on Saturday. So with that being the case, I think you're defense is what it is at this point. I'll buy I'm not the biggest Sammy Watkins fan. I think if you listen to me read my articles, listen to my podcast, you know, that, but I will say this. I think there is an impact that he brings to the table that maybe a DaMarcus Robinson camping's debut that Chris Cali. Camping table you bring him in. Maybe it works opens things up for a guy like Atari kill guy like Travis Kelsey. And all of a sudden you get that early season. Mo Jo back, again, definitely when you're talking about matchups for team that doesn't go man a lot. Then the importance of Sammy Watkins would definitely be multiplied because then they will have to worry about who to match up on tyreek hill who is a better match up on Sammy Watkins. But since we already know what we're gonna see this cover to shale. It's no matter no matter Sammy Watkins out they're not they still gonna be in the same shell. But those safety as far as how far they're willing to age off those numbers. How far they will into a lineup off the hash to show respect to that. Why receiver that definitely is something that affects the tight imposition. Now, good arod dot com. If you haven't seen it yet today Sammy Watkins was back on the practice field. And I'm interested in seeing how it goes this week because it was heavily wrapped. So it still concerns me that maybe he's not going to be under percent. Like you. Want Sammy Watkins back in the mix you want Eric berry back in the mix. But if they're not one hundred percent, they're not the same elite level players that were used to. I mean, you know, the the way we attack a cover to shell is definitely for verticals. You get any three four go over go special anything like that put so much pressure on those safeties on the back in you. You definitely want to receive to be able to get verticals fast as possible to continue to be putting a lot of pressure on him. So I think we need Sammy Watkins to be somewhere near hundred percent to be able to stretch feel vertically that we turn the page to Conley. We turn the page. My man Honey, thunder the thunder from down under. He doesn't derive does a great job when out there. I think he's actually probably like the third or four fastest on the team. So he can definitely do the job. You know, it's early in the week. And I see so many cheese fans coming through on Twitter and texting so on and so forth. They are so pumped up and cannot wait for Saturday. Get here we're gonna be talking about this matchup all week. We're gonna be talking about it at the our head pride tailgate coming up on Saturday. Two hours prior to. The game. But me, and Sean I'll give you an early look at this match of. And that's next aero head pride radio. Pete Sweeney, Shawn barber dusty like find the glass, our head pride radio taking it till seven o'clock big takes over would think at night, Shannon. I tell you. I went over four undivided around pictures. We can. Well, I think I did comment. I replied back to when you own to, you know, told you to brew taste, you know, I thought we was picking on the same teams for a couple. But then you went on your own. What did you think when three and one three and one that's three that's three games better than me? That was three games yet you as you had a tough day, man. You had two people said don't pick the chiefs this weekend. Try Leinen lane in that way. There is no carryover. Unlike the skins getting no not over this is the fresh clean slate. Again, here you go clean slate, buddy. Mentioned it before the break. We're gonna have plenty of opportunities to get in this all week. There's number of shows that we appear on so on and so forth. I'm sure to get into detail with some of these things but next couple of minutes here. Just want to go through step by step basic overview of this game chiefs versus coats start what each position will say. Which way we feel on each side. How strongly we feel and of course, it starts with the quarterback match-up Patrick Mahomes. Homes versus Andrew luck. Here was Coltart coach Frank Reich a Mahomes earlier today for God that was such a dynamic playmaker. You don't see them making many big mistakes. I mean, sometimes when you get a young guy was dynamic playmaker. You know, you gotta balance off with with the big misses that they have you know, the golfing analogy would be you know, hitting it out of bounds. So you just don't see that with with home. I mean, it just doesn't make very many bad mistakes, I'm tempted here to give Andrew luck a little bit of love because he has the play-off experience and we've seen Mahomes, maybe get a little riled up in the big stage. But he's the MVP this year. You look at his body of work. I think you still have to go Patrick Mahomes. Even though Andrew luck is close. And there's some people out there as we'll talk a little bit about later that consider luck to be this year's MVP. I don't consider pet Mahomes machine or like a. Android robot? Type you know, I do have a lot of faith in the way. He processes information. Have a lot of faith how consistent and accurate is. I have a lot of faith in the strength of his arm in his mobility. I also have a lot of faith in his inexperience add being over coached because since he entered the league he's been coached by one of the best quarterback whispers coach Andy Reid, and there are certain things the way he attacks defense that some quarterbacks with extreme amount of experiences. They think as a full pot. It's never do it. And so defense is not you're not going to do it. And so they stopped covering it. Does this quarterback battle change given? It's the playoffs or doesn't not change for you for for most people would say if somewhere during the seizing because of one of these have buildups for one of the games we played during the season. We saw some type of fault chink in the armor of a pet Mahomes building up to one of the big games division rival Monday night game Sunday night game. But we didn't see it all year. We we never saw the young man get flustered. And I'm beginning to believe that's not in his DNA. He doesn't feel the exterior pressures that most people most athletes feel at times of increased intensity of of competition to me each game is just another opportunity to get the hand in the ball players. Short memory, very short memory. I like Mahomes. Slight edge for me. I it's not strong. You take them home. Stiff, oh, definitely pen Mahomes. Finance your strong about it the strongest following running back Damien Williams and Spencer ware if he can go hobbling around with that Hannie or Marlin MAC, I can appreciate mall MAG having a few games in a row and a few five four or five games in the role of over one hundred yards being very secure with the football. He takes the defense gives them. He he's down here runner he compliments offense aligned very well. But if you tell me what I rather have a two headed monster. Or just one guy. I don't know if Marley met goes down for them or any kind of injury who they have in the cupboard. So I like the fact that we have a little bit of a fire. Nice. We got we got some different pace. We can come at them some different angles with our running-backs. I I like where to be healthy. I think even if he is healthy, I do like Damien Williams, you mentioned the injuries and behind. Mac if he were to potentially down the hayme Hines only eighty five carries on the year MAC had one hundred ninety five I like the chiefs against slightly in the run game. I like Damian Williams, you know, Spencer where can't go I like his dual threat ability over MAC again, not strong. It's not strong slight. Same for you. Or you're are you strong s. To me. It's probably more like a break. Even thank you know, MAC is good. But the combination of Maqutu too good bags like two together. It's kind of a breaking for me tight end. Travis kills your Eric Hebron. Listen, Erkki Brun is not bad. He's pretty good. But eight Travis Kelsey Travis Kelsey clear-cut edge and that strong e brought his tip. Tip tip. Good. He's shown to be pretty good for a very small sample one year, Houma bust. This is best for your his best year as a pro. But just goes to show man right coaching staff right situation with some of these guys. I think they got him in a situation. They got him comfortable. He's running arouse. He likes to run about. Thank when you break the film down and see it. I mean, he has a very limited repertoire of rowdy runs. I think he's very comfortable. If you just pay attention to what rows he runs. They're not doing a lot of things with them. He's getting himself in very good body position to make catches and luck doing a good job of putting the ball needs to be wide receivers Tyree killing Sammy Watkins versus t y Hilton Dontrelle Inman again remains to be seen. How healthy Watkins in mentioned that heavy rap on his foot earlier today. Here's head coach of the Indianapolis Colts Frank Reich on tyreek hill pretty unique player. There's there's a lead speed. And then there's probably Tyree kills me. I mean, so really comes down to I don't think it could come Sammy full health. If he's that wrapped up still after missing week after week after week you looking to tie hill versus t y Hilton. What do you who do you like in this matchup? I like tar heel think is one of the top three receivers NFL behind Michael Thomas and Deandra. I don't. I don't know who I I don't I don't know if I really put those receivers in front of him. I just noted collectively if you wanna say he's to me there's about two or three guys who are like equally as much maybe a little bit more. But when you talk about T Y Hilton. I mean, I see the effectiveness that he has against certain teams. But but again, I've just from a wire receiver as far as being able to create space and be able to make tough catches from his, you know, he doesn't have that to me at top speed of a, you know, tar heel, Tariq hill. I kind of like when somebody asked me on social media. They asked me would I rather have Tyler Lockett T Y Hilton. I had to think about that. And that's we'll Talal lock it averages over fourteen yards target now to catch right? Fourteen yards a target that hasn't been done since nineteen ninety two or something like a two thousand to buzz one receiver. Things other case they receive I think it was in Green Bay one of those first couple Jordy Nelson. Joining Nelson almost a decade ago. He like thirteen yards target. So being able to I think it's close to even because Sammy is questionable. You're not really sure what you get at him. I don't think there's a clear edge. But I know what you mean. I do like I said, I do like Thai hill over t y Hilton. But I like the combo just as much as hill, and whatever you get from Watkins ofensive line chiefs offensive line versus Indianapolis offensive line. Everyone has been going with the Indians of line that that has been a storyline all week. They've only allowed eighteen sex all year, not to say that the chiefs has been bad. They have some studs on it LT could be back mixed. We have remains to be seen whether or not that happens. But I think you've gotta go Indian on the line Brandon Smith. He's a local local kid. We gotta give him his respect being from right here in the cancer. Gene, Nelson is another standout for them. As Quinn Nelson stood at the gore position, he's doing things he's making movements. He's a putting his offense of limi-. He's he's depositing. Terling defense blam at how how rate they do a lot of things off the blind to create some bad situations. They allow no penetration. A downhill run. Running. So that's the point of emphasis, I think when you when you want to start this fight against the colts on Saturday. It begins and ends right at office. And you just got to push them in the mouth. I don't mean to rush through this. But when it comes to defense as a whole who do you like in this match for me? Of course, it's Indy. I like the chiefs front seven more than like their secondary, obviously. But again, you gotta give any Annapolis. I think the edge on David. I ain't giving into nothing. Tampa tune theory, bend don't break all that kind of stuff. Bobby Bobby, our deepest needs to go blitz. Crazy blitz. Crazy final category head coaching. I think you gotta take any read even with the playoff question marks all year long been accused of being a pro chiefs guy only a all chiefs cow time, the little secret people don't know it. I am not a pro chiefs guy. I m a pro and IGA I see I support Andy Reid, and he just happens to be the head coach of the chief. So you kind of get me. That's the you get a two for one kingdom. Here's where it scares me. And this is something that really you can't put a category on it's kind of something. That's imaginary. You can't hold it. It's not tangible. It's heat the chiefs back their way into number one seat. I you can't say it any other way, you can't lose two or three last games. Or and tell me that they didn't do the culture. The hottest team in the National Football League. And I've always said this. It's about who is hottest at the end. Not who's the best to I think the more talented team. Yes. But being on fire is scary. He always the terminal on you know, what we're talking about planning teams. They played against it's hard to be hat against those teams. And I don't think there's any any any way mortar anymore. Definite way to say, it just they wanna get some. So part teams the end of the season and got on the high street. Sean. I know you like money. Oh, talk about it often. That's what when we come back thousands on thirties your chance to win a thousand dollars. Stay with. Head pride radio. Pete sweeney. Sean Barbara are had pride radio on the biggest week of the year. It's probably biggest Eric pride radio episode yet, Sean always ready, man playoff push O'Hare, pride radio playoff addition. And we're going to start this segment with the national cash contest to chance to win a thousand on the thirties in the national cash. Contest. Text the word quick that is Q U I C K quick to seven to eight one one chief stock and a chance to win a thousand on the thirties. Only one station in Kansas City, gives you both weekdays from seven seven your next chance to win is tomorrow at seven thirty AM with fess co in the morning when he's sentence where ready shown the quick Brown FOX jumps over the lazy dog what? The quick Brown FOX jumps over lazy dog that was using every half of it every every every letter in the alphabet right there for you out. Now Brown cow. What is going on three just the national cash contest? Now, we're gonna get too hot take Tuesday. When we go around the nation to see with the national analysts are saying about your Kansas City Chiefs, and we have to start we talked about Peter Schrager, which is the Batman. Now, we're gonna talk about the joker. Kyle Brandt on the colts and chiefs percentage of winning this week morning right now. Gimme percent chance. They beat the chiefs in Arrowhead this week on one hundred percent. Yeah. All in all my chips. I can go broke. I'll be wearing a feral if they lose to the percents. I see your game Kyle Brandt. You know, there's not one hundred percent chance the colts beat the chiefs. This is going to happen when the chiefs win you're going to be wearing a barrel on Monday, and that'll be the gag and everyone will be watching because of that. I know the ratings game he cannot think there's one hundred percent chance colts wins. I think he has one of those like freaky fetishes. He wants to be like naked with a bear on national TV. And he'll be like, oh, I have to do it now because said that she would we're going to lose. So now I have to wear this barrel and be the barrel guy. Yeah. We peep is getting. Foxsports Colin coward on the chiefs colts MVP race lock in Mahomes. Make a deal whoever wins this game is officially the MVP. The league Mahomes beat Andrew luck. Wave. The white flag. It to Mahomes all showed up if luck beats Mahomes guys ready to do that. Then Luxy MVP if Andrew luck goes into Kansas City, if he goes into Kansas City and luck wins it'd be there. Impressive. Hey whitlock. We say that when that happens when luck goes into Kansas City in wins. Dr. That's not the MVP works. That's a lose mentality. I I've been on the losing in a bet before in the fourth quarter, and because I know of lost I come up with this long. How about this? How about whoever scores next wins? I'm down twenty two against my older brother when I was ten years old playing basketball, and as abra give me a break give me a chance whoever scores last the next bucket wins. And I get the ball. Let me let me let me do that. That's what it sounds like it's like playing the game war and stealing cards play monopoly stealing money playing tiddlywinks steel and winks. Louis Riddick of ESPN and his key chiefs colts. I think it's going to be about how well can Kansas City's front seven play against Indianapolis offense line right now, quite honestly, it's been dominant. It's really what is the catalyst behind the success that they're having right now. Chris Ballard told me this on the sideline before the game against the Texans. He told me when he got that job. And retold him do whatever it takes to protect quarterback and make sure he stays healthy. He's done that. Because you see. Now, they're running the football. And throwing the football with tremendous efficiency and chiefs have struggled stop the run stop in the past. If they don't play from a head and Patrick on his game, and he can kind of get up on maybe ten fourteen points. So then he can turn loose deporting Justin Houston, it's going to be a tough test for them. So he's going to be are the cheese capable but their front seven of either getting pressure on Andrew lucked or slowing down that run game. Does if they can't there's going to be score score for score. And then it's anybody's guess how ends up. I like Louis Riddick. He calls Patrick, Mahomes the Ferrari, which I also like. The key matchup is Andrew luck versus Patrick Mahomes. Do you agree with them and saying the chiefs front seven versus colts? A well is the number one match in this game? The defensive plan me has always believed that the trenches where games one D line against old-line on both sides of the ball. Right. You know, Ardila needs to punch him in the mouth. That's how you win the ballgame. You push the old on the mouth early and often you gotta come off their rug. You can't be reading to gap and trying to get into a pass rush. Move off the initial you gotta come off and put your helmet and your screws right down Quinton Nelson. Brayden Smith you gotta put it right down their chest plates. Drive them three or four yards in the backfield. So they know what kind of day is going to be because if you let it get going the other way, they can make a real real real soon last take from Fox Sports old friend, Jason Whitlock. Patrick Mahomes is going to have to perform a magic trick he entire he'll and Travis Kelsey are going to. Have to compensate for a major defensive deficiency that the chiefs have the colts are the better team. Andrew lock second or third best quarterback in the league right now of Andrew luck has won ten of their last eleven games of who's the quarterback. The cheese only they finished three and three to close out the season. The red coats have a much better defense difference line is nasty. They got this rookie linebacker nasty, although it's a more complete team. And I've seen this before I've seen the cold coming to ahead stadium and knock off a number one see chiefs team. I I'm preparing for the worst. I like wit lock. But here's sports one. The better team is the one who's favored in Las Vegas. I've say say it every week because they have the money to lose or they can't afford to be wrong. Are they wrong? Sometimes, of course, when people walk away with money spread right now is five points. The chief being favored in this game. They are the better team. Anything can happen in sports. Do you agree with Jason, willow? Don't rarely do. I. Often things are made up and to be extreme too. It's like he gets paid by the call it take Tuesday, he paid to put gasoline on whatever your doubts and fears are he he just he's exams for exaggeration them to the hundred degree the chiefs defense, being whatever he scrapped it there. I know there's people out there that are concerned about this chiefs defense. Here's what I want you to do. There's people on the edge. This is a big game. This is Patrick Mahomes. No one wants to wait till next year till he developed a little more. We want the Super Bowl. We wanna now for the people in Kansas City that I little nervous about Saturday. A little nervous. Just gimme gimme a classic tower, positively Sean Barbara pep talk right now at the end of the day the defense has one job and as to get Andrew look office spot. It forgets. I will give running back MAC many yards. He wants if he can if he can get yardage against the blitz. Then I'll give them nine eight nine yards care if he wants we need to blitz sky often early every down put Andrew luck on his back as much as possible early in the game. I would give up three or four bombs in the first half and give up twenty points just to get to the quarterback. So he knows he doesn't have all day long back there. The ball. He doesn't do well against pressure wash. The Jacksonville Jaguars play them for a goose egg a few weeks ago during this a ten out of seven games. Nobody wants to mention the one game. They didn't that that was an ugly ugly effort it was ugly. Six nothing offense of land got their butts kicked up and down the field for four quarters. But, but but this great office line is coming coming to aero hair. Nobody wants to bring up the Jacksonville one game ten though to be fair. The game plan was simple. They belived. They brought pressure mono a mono. They whipped him up front and go through the defense. How often you blitzing every single down? I would never play zone that once I'm coming six seven about bring eight hour would. Overload. Whatever you gotta do to up the middle aged at blitz. I want Andrew luck on his rear end early and often. What are you got thirty three twenty four finalists thirty three twenty seven Kansas City. Chiefs from Sean Barbara's points, we go to the arrow head pride lead film and draft. Analyst name is wants to no one outside the chiefs organization in my opinion, watches more Patrick Mahomes in the city. Can't are you fired up as Sean Barbara now? Yeah. Only I'm not gonna pick a muesli six point different. I mean barber. He's got him under. He's got him under the average that he predicted before the season. He's got the only winning by fix. I'm used to Barbara picking like thirty three negative four. Thirty three negative four. Come on. Man. Listen, I'm no people think I walk around with these chief colored glasses on all day. Even though the already in black. What wait is that? What is that think out there? What are you drinking? There is that red cool. Here we go with the Cooley. Chief colored glasses at end of the day. A caller how I saw it. The quarterback is awesome. He can put up thirty five on anybody. The lowest score was twenty six points are defense when we bring pressure. We have exciting pass rushers up front four Houston, man. Chris Jones those three hit him onto coming after a quarterback. Then we got the hawk Bailey and some other cats to play the run. Autumn other caches played a run. Frigging block party. I want to switch gears from the defense Kent to your area of specialties. And that's of course, Patrick Mahomes. I think big concern for people or at least one of the current concerns that some of these games that at the big stage. Talking patriots game Rams Seahawks. He's come out. And he's just been a little bit juiced. Have you seen development with that as he's gone on here? I mean against the Oakland Raiders, I know it wasn't a night game. But it's a game. You had to win you feel confident that he's going to be cool. Calm and collected come Saturday afternoon. You know, I think it's kinda little to the point. Right. Like he's had offered -tunities in big moments on big stages to go out. And you know, maybe get some of those some of the jitters out of the way, I'm sure you'll probably be a little bit hiker -ly. But I think he's done a pretty good job of settling back in even like, I think, you know, maybe, you know, early in the season, it might have been a drive drive thing where maybe a early driver to might not go as perfect because he's a little bit high. But I think I think the the amount of time it takes them to settle in his actually so down pretty good. Maybe he's a little juice on a first and second down. And then he just comes out and treat the third and long like, it's nothing, you know, because that's what he's done all year. I think he's going to be fine that he's going to settle in. And I'm really not that concerned about the defense face and this week. I think what concerns me is I feel like this matchup is closer than you would like I mean, we are down to the final four teams here in the AFC. So of course, it's going to be the. The best of the best. But to me like the thing concerns me about Mahomes as you almost has to play perfectly to make sure the take care of this win. I look Mahomes, and I and I think to myself. All right. This is why you drafted this guy. And he is at least saying all the right things. How does Andrew luck in your opinion come into play? I know you've watched Mahomes, but luck has been as close as you could get to Mahomes, which of course, has an enclosed thing. We both agree that Mahomes, the clearcut N B P. But how would you rate Andrew lucked coming into this game based upon his season? And what you saw Houston Texas last weekend. Oh, look, look certainly there. I mean, I don't think you can argue that at all he's he's been exceptional this year. He's a lot. He's very similar to the guy. We saw before you know, some of these these horrific injuries. And and I he looks like the Andrew luck of. And you know, he's definitely a guy that can come in here and do some of the things that that were used especially with the defensive side of the ball. But I do expect and Patrick Mahomes in a game. Like this to elevate. You know, his game elevate his team and do the things that are required of pulling out a game and beating off so many demons hearing here in Kansas City that we've seen for so long. So like give me Mahomes, but luck is more than capable of of putting on a show. Well, that is the voice of our pride lead film and draft analyst Swanson he'll be in-studio with me for the head pride tailgate on Saturday. Fortunately, be me UN and. Unfortunately, Mike wicket can't. I just wanna I wanna apologize advance for that. We appreciate you joining us. Enjoy the week. All right, buddy. Can't of course is the leader of the Arrowhead pride nerd squad who you can find on make it night coming up right after this Matt lane film analyst four seven thirty. Tonight creek stout comes on defensive film analyst, eight pm on Wednesdays and Kent wraps it up six thirty PM on Thursdays. In-depth Xs knows on big at night again coming up after this. But before we get all that good at Twitter dot com slash our at bride. Get your tweets in. We're going to read them and comment Amman? That's next. Errol had pride radio. Pete's mini. Shawn barber wrapping up era had pride radio. I said at the top twenty fifth anniversary of the last chiefs home playoff winnow flea that goes away is coming Saturday hanging out. Shawn barber American dream dusty likens Rohan, Gary no one's back there. I just found out and we are going to right now as we do every week three tweets. I step rob Doni, again, not feels good feels good, Nick. How much of a concern is that t y Hilton can break free just as easily as title Ken is defense prepared for speed. Worth Hilton is nowhere near as fast. Maybe maybe maybe it's not they both begin their name the same the same writers that confused. What? You can't see this year. Sean just throw away that tweet motion. I would rather have Tyler Lockett come in play a real wide receiver position. Then a guy come to the stadium. With a clown mask on in response to another guys tweet on the other side, Jad romance. Even with the Super Bowl win. Bob Sutton has to go, right? Are you crazy? No one that wins. The Super Bowl is getting rid of staff about sudden has led a defense. It was number one and sex thing. Number three and turnovers. Top three and two of the most critical area man in for this. And in over. Three of the top four teams and overall defense guests sent home during well call weekend. You wanna be the bears defense, you you wanna be. The ravens defense you want to beat the Houston Texas defense that's three of the top defense in the NFL this year, and they all get sent home often score points. That's how you make it in the playoffs. They nineteen. They bring you in for motivational speech, president keep McLean. How much Patrick Mahomes cannon not care about the history versus the colts. I think that's a parent. You ask him about these people were trying to ask him today about and he he says this is a new generation new game. I think that's exactly the mind frame. You want for them? He's been learning for the best quarterback coach he learned from Alex Smith last year and learn things he couldn't do. And since he's been on the field. He's been doing doing what pet do he's not trying to be a better version anybody's out there. Putting the ball in the hands of his playmakers. That's what he said he wanted to do since training camp. And he's done it every game. Jose will Andy learn from the last colts playoff loss and be extra aggress. Thumb injury. You Patrick Mahomes in Sammy back in the mix. Suddenly offense is back. I hope the back to what it was early in the season. You don't stop scoring ever. I don't care if the the scoreboard read sixty points, right? We try to Kardashian break internet Patrick Mahomes in his office. Try to break the schoolboy, whatever your they need to get to the break the scoreboard, man. Just rolling it up. Just keep attacking that cover to keep attacking, no matter. What the scores Sean says he's been rubbing out the top of a mini helmet to wear out the demons before Saturday, y'all are welcome. I think row K without rubbing the helmet Jonathan's. Got a message for chief kingdom. Do not fear the game. That's coming this weekend. One cannot overcome their demons without facing down. This is not an obstacle to be feared it's an opportunity to embrace if a Sunday Jonathan shown. No, I got I gotta Nico. No deacon. Got a Kate. And I got a Sander I got five of young old basketball team, and a cheerleader names there that asks if e b plays do we feel good about him shutting down abra n-? If it's all hands on board note Amari Bs on board Sammy Watkins onboard DOD's on everybody's on the Ross's onboard. You gotta create your tomorrow, that's playoff mentality. Chana need a bottom line here from j Lyons who wins coal line or chiefs pass rush. Bottom line is it don't matter. Create your tomorrow. Chiefs got more points at the end of the game in the colts. Whether it's one or as one hundred that chief kingdom moves on your ready for championship game, baby. Todd, lots asked something you might be familiar with John what's difference between this game? And the no punt game. Ooh, you about the piss meal. What is the difference? Patrick, Mahomes, m B pets has tag 'em. Be Pat has tag watch it. No look pass on a dime. Anytime. Let's do this from buddy Thomson. Just saw the weather change any impact on the game. You think I mean, you would think that an in worse weather, there'd be less throwing the football. But I don't think you can do that. With these two quarterback outdoor team. Bring on the weather bring on the snow to sleet, whatever you wanna bring it on. We're we we are destined for that. We can handle the is the other team coming here to plays in a dome controlled environment. Can't win on the road can't win. When his outside of don't bring on elements last question snowman his Travers wore the chiefs secret weapon or not. I love ward. I love my love. My love him Mira coverage. He can hang with anybody. Top speed off the. Chart. I love that guy. We only we gotta be on lookout for as one Maliki Hooker. Don't though it his way that joker can go. You like him me hookah is a ball player. I had them in the top rank defensive player in his draft class. 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Chiefs 37, Browns 21 - Arrowhead Pride Week 9 post-game show

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Chiefs 37, Browns 21 - Arrowhead Pride Week 9 post-game show

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A final from Cleveland thirty seven twenty one your Kansas City Chiefs improve to now eight and one on the year with the win ROY also joined in studio by the former chief linebacker and down the stretch, the very audible Shawn barber with lots to say about the way this one ended Pete thirty seven twenty one sixteen point win Browns made some mistakes this could have been closer. But you have a young quarterback in there making some mistakes and the chiefs that they did what they do. Yeah. It's just another day at the office. You know, it's one of these games where you went in and said, okay, the Kansas City Chiefs are clearly better than the Cleveland Browns. They should dominate this football game. There should really not be a question. And I think that's exactly what you got. I look forward now already to AirAsia next week in. You're starting to CD's games. I think in the past is against the chiefs fan you have a little bit Murphy's law like anything that can go wrong. We'll go wrong. So like maybe a game. Like this. You somehow are playing. With the Browns. That's no longer case you go into games in like against the Browns. You're supposed to win. You win by two scores could have been more than that. And then now you look ahead to to Arizona. And I tweeted chiefs probably gonna win that game by one hundred points. That is not gonna be a question that game. I look, you know, what is what is the Vegas spread? Good to be in that sixteen and a half is that we'll be more. You know, what I mean that's type of football team. You have you have a Super Bowl contender? And there is little doubt about that. Oh, yeah. We'll obviously as the week progresses. You guys at aero had probably getting into. Was a quarterback over there. Rosen them gen John rose in whatever it is. But this is this one is all about you at five seven six seven six ten minutes, the phone number your reaction to this. Also, you can text in to the protein house eat with a purpose. Text line. Alo- new sponsor six nine three zero six Mr. Barbour. Your thoughts on a thirty seven to twenty one BIC -tory in process going down. My she don't mind over undis- seeing how guy right I'm looking at about seventy five percent right now. So that's a day. That's a good. That's a winning all day. That was a great day at office, actually, take seventy five seventy and time as I think as we said before. The really impressed me was the over under the games total. Which was I think I said it was fifty seven points in the eight so. Thanks knows what they're doing. One point off. I can't be so mad at myself, so good dead office. Especially for the Kansas City. Chiefs all week long. We heard people chirping and whispering about trap game. I have a trap game. If there's no game on the other side. You're like if you're if this was like patriots Browns Packers you'd be like, okay? That middle game was a trap game. You can't have a trap game. If there's no trap trip trip. I want to the next year onto the next onto the next. She this is one of those like in the middle of third quarter. Everybody was sitting around like all right this game. It'd be over yet. And that second half seemed to take forever. Meanwhile, that I have to really turn along. Yeah. It was quick. And I don't know you get to you get to the second half of this game. And and yeah, it's getting to the point. And this is what I think chiefs fans have wanted for a long time. The team is so good. And I think there was so little question in this game that they it did get a little boring for its because I and that's what next week should be. I mean, it's going to be the chiefs in the cardinals. And there should be no question from the second. That game starts as to who's gonna win the football game. Especially with the way, those two franchises are going. And that's what you've been waiting for for years and years of your against chief's fan. We got Pete Sweeney. Shawn barber in studio. Mike wicket? Let's hear from you five seven six seven six ten. We always lead off with Dan. He's the man in case. Casey K what's up, Dan? I might type peek a great way to cheat. How they dominating the second. Great homecoming by. Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes. Then I this guy on the bus said that on the metro dad. She's a one hundred points. I got to ask you a question. What do you what do you suppose? Eric berry time status if they when you come back to practice today here karnal sticky yourself. All right. Well, that is these sixty million dollar question. What is Eric berries time status as things are starting to come out? You've heard Tarez paler yahu sports. The other day mention some time in December years you've been seeing reports come out NFL network. Tom Pella Sarah reported this morning that berry in next couple of weeks. We'll get going, and you know, when different different reporters are starting to talk to similar ways of you know, it's starting to seem like maybe three four five weeks, which means we'll eventually get to one hundred days of him not practicing. But. You know, I just I just wonder what player we're going to get having now missed it's going to be twenty five twenty six games in a row. So what barrier you getting back? And I think that's a conversation for another day. Thanks to the phone. Call Dan DJ in Fargo, you're next up on six ten sports radio. Oh my gosh. Thanks for having me on again. I, you know, great win really happy about the win seemed like a trap game for us advocate out with the w but I'm still really really concerned about that defense. Should it? Keep me up at night. Or should. I just be glad that the office is played very well, it just really could for. But I know I hope in the playoffs doesn't come back to HAMAs. Thank thank thank you for the phone call. It's talked to sandy who's in Belton. You're next up on six ten sports radio. I sandy. Fan. They're happy chief's fan. So Kansas City Kansas City here we come. All right. I've gotta say. Thank you very much. Sandy, I'm in Chester is on the line praised beach. Yester- right. How good in our president is football players to unify and find a way to win a game. This is the five games in a row over thirty point games in a row with the quarterback. This thrown over some Jones. Defense kept them twenty one points Comey games, if you just get around thirty five and keep them to twenty one we looking for more how good and happen over the do for people to unify together and see how they plan to wait to we got. Yes. As always phone lines are cleared five seven six seven six ten you want to jump in on this? Your chiefs are eight and one is they can begin the second half of the year. Phone lines are open five seven six seven six ten. I do want to comment about that. I said three in a row, but it was chief's fan. Who is a little uncomfortable with how the defense looks right? And it is that was actually a taped call from week to six and last week. It is concerning because right now, you're looking at opposing offenses in it doesn't matter which customer it is it could be a like the patriots of the chargers. It could be the Broncos that could be the Browns you can pretty much write down a big day for two or three of their playmakers today. You saw Duke Johnson. Yeah. He asked today he had a strong game. Nick, Nick, Chubb was having his way uncertain downs against his chiefs defense and almost four yards a carry for chub. Yeah. And it is a concern. Because again, you look at a team like the Browns. That's fine. You look at a team next week like the cardinals, that's fine. If you're giving up yardage because the offense is going to have its way it sees other teams like you saw New England that are going to be able to keep this game, you know, back and forth that that's that a quarterback that's going to be able to go toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes two weeks eight days from tomorrow. That's the game. You're talking about. I don't worry about Rosen next week. I really worry about this game. Even though banker had a pretty decent day. He through the picket the end, but before that he was twenty nine of forty one for two ninety seven and two scores. That's not bad for a rookie. Right. You know? I mean, he's still made some place it's two weeks from now when they don't have an inexperienced quarterback when they don't have an inexperienced number one running back when they don't have questions at the wide receiver spot. After the number one guy. It's Jared Goff. It's cooks it's Cup. It's woods. It's girly that the game in Mexico City Monday night a week from tomorrow that's the game that that's the that's when this defense is gonna look like what they did against New England. I just it's it's it's posing quarterback. Like Baker Mayfield doesn't scare you yet. But team the teams that have quarterbacks to scare you are patriots. Tom Brady, Phil rivers with the chargers. Jared Goff even a little bit with the Los Angeles Rams capable quarterbacks and capable offenses. That are going to be able to keep up with Patrick Mahomes and go toe to toe just based upon how poor the like I were. I don't worry so much about a game the chiefs, you know, are clearly veteran I worry about a team that has a really good offense. And that could put a points on the chiefs defense. I could stay with Mahomes if game gets into the forties. It could go either way right now with this chiefs defense, and especially when you get down to the six teams and the like they actually it's so hard to we we take it a little bit. For granted in Kansas City. It is so hard to make the playoffs in the National Football League. The cream of the crop. Towards the end of the season. This defense isn't going to cut it against some of these top echelon AFC offenses test number one they fail at New England. They failed main. I this team does real well against for whatever reason Ville rivers, but their next major test is we tomorrow made their individual performances that were good today. Like, I really liked the game that Steve Nelson play testing against Cleveland. It's the interior. It's it seems like the interior run defense is is struggles weaken and week out. Anthony Hitchens was hurt today. I just I like I said I worry about a team that has a good offense. It's going to be willing to run the football more so than they throw. So the team come into Mexico City that wears yellow in blue the Rams minutes. Not the quarterback, Sean, you know, Baker again these day for Baker Mayfield. It's not the quarterback next week. It's an offense. Like Brady's often these elite offenses Ken the chiefs keep up with that defense. Nothing, you know, each week, the matchups going to have its own set of standards. Instead of problems for our defense offensively. We can you know, we've are approved school at thirty to forty points on any any team in the league this year. And so, yeah, when we when we go to Mexico have to fade Jared Goff a girl. He's going to be a problem woods Br that's going to be autos guys going to be. I mean there problems for everybody else. So it's nothing new. So it's gonna come down to last session. Exactly, exactly. I have. No. I have zero percent faith in like if this game came down to team with a decent quarterback, the final possession and the chiefs have a three point lead. What's your confidence level right now because mine is small all right? Let two and a half minutes left Mahomes. Just throws a touchdown in Mexico City. They're up thirty three thirty kicking the ball off. There better be less of a minute left. How about it? Because if there's enough time for them to be able to run the vote three lose the game. How about thirty three thirty one. They're kicking the ball off to the Rams with two and a half minutes to go. You feel good that golfing, Abby and woods and cooks and Oregon million percent now one I mean, I it's those close games against he's good teams that I don't know if you're there yet. And and and and the defense needs to import like I've been saying this for a while. Now, the I feel like a broken record eight you don't have to be perfect defense. But you've got any middle of the road, and they're just bad five seven six seven six ten back to the phones we go to Joe listen to us online and Oklahoma. You're on six ten. What's up? Joe? Hey, how's it going guy? Right, man. I heard all week how this was a trap game. We just outclassed them. Do we know the definition of trap game? If you heard that this was a trap game. This is not a trap game. This was a game. They should have gone up in one. There was nothing last week. There's no they're the reason the people fall for trap games Joe is because the game after is a big game a tough game a monster opponent next week if the car does. I what you're saying. I don't think anyone's paying attention the next week. We're all looking at Mexico. So next week next week next week is the trip okay net. Very true. Okay. Well, I hope by that there. There's no no there next. Here's my listen. I understand that where you could maybe have that line of thinking there. I don't know what I could do. There's no way the chiefs this next week. They do not say that. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. There's I guess there's a scenario that you don't really wanna bring up you don't want to jinx anything. But there's no way Joe today was the trap game next week could be the one where they think they can roll a helmets out then peach team comes on stops all over because they're not taking him seriously. Well, looking ahead to next week. How do you feel about Sammy Watkins, I'm nervous? See that was hotly off the air during the game is in there. Or is it or you bagging on Saint you're the one bagging on Sammy during the ball game. I'm not I am not a big. I'm not I'm I don't not like Sammy Watkins the player. Like, I don't dislike Sammy Watkins the player. I just like dislike the situation. He was brought into you paid you paid a guy like he's Mike Evans, and that percentage of your cap, and he's the fourth or fifth option. I mean five catches sixty two yards today. Not a bad day. Now, not a bad day, not a bad day. And I think he's I think he's an above average wide. Receiver. But why are you paying him that much of the percentage of the cap, and then you have all defensive issues. That's my thing about watch on tell them on team salaries. How much the pain guys? Go ahead. Tom, Tom, tell him not to worry about dollars. We don't worry about dollar bills. This is no really the the cap is just a dream that she the chiefs get to a Super Bowl or the AFC title game against the New England Patriots. And this game gets into the fifties. And the patriots win fifty to forty six something ridiculous. Like that. You're going to look at that money that you spend on Watkins and didn't put into without walking. You might only score thirty six that that is my problem with the beef, and I under I've worn that. My beef would Sammy Watkins lives in the hypothetical, and it isn't with Sammy Watkins again because I liked the player it's with I guess, it's more. So with the contract they gave him and before you start guaranteeing winds. I'd like to take you back to last November, windy, Kansas City. Chiefs were on the road. And I remember listening to Bob Fespaco and Vesco telling me there is no way the Kansas City. Chiefs will go into New York and lose to the to an eight New York Giants. There's just no way. Well, there's absolutely no way everyone's injure. There's no Beckham everybody's broken that teams. Des- at the down to like their seventh receiver they want the nine they beat the chiefs twelve that was the worst football game. I've ever watched. Say Syracuse fan you've probably in some terrible game seven and two. Let's go to you in Casey, what's up you. What's going on gentlemen? Hey, eight one. How are you doing great? But eight one and everything, but we're things that concerns me than we're not playing for quarter football. And all is begin to me. I'll see and his like we care, but we're not doing even on offense. We're not doing and that somewhat concerned me. But I guess we don't need to turn. It all all the hope. I guess I don't know. What do you think? Are they playing four quarters of football shown, Barbara? Yes. They are trying to the tempest being made to play in focus. It just it's so hard to play when your offense is being this efficient. Br. Br I mean pretty much what scored touchdown field goal. Fab out of the first six possessions. Besides giving a boat blocked punt they put the Browns this position. You just got to keep them from scoring, you know in a five play series somebody that they have to snap the ball eight to ten times it gives you plenty of chances to get a big sack. Forced fumble. We thought we had one a day with four coming off end. But a a ghost flag must have been a clear flags. I'm somebody dropped the I didn't see the yellow flag. But still came with all sides call which clearly wasn't offs is. That's the way. It's weird for the weird refereeing in the first it was all over the place. But they persevered is tough to win on the road. You take a win where you can get it. And they're going to come back home to Arizona. So you just you just continue to try to get better, man. Like I said this defense is ranked twenty twenty first going into the game today averaging given up about twenty six points the game. They gave him. Thousand seven hundred. I mean, they're right. I mean, right where they are. They are and between twenty and thirty is a difference to be able to two and a half points. Like, it's not like there's a he everybody is the same. I'm not making excuses. This defense at times is terrible. But everybody in this league for the most part gives up. Thank you. So the difference in a winning team in a losing team issue is on defense out of a ball. It's offenses if your average and thirty five to forty points, you're seventy one eight zero if you're averaging low twenties like some of the offense teams are then you're on the other side of that. So it's awesome offense driven game right now, obviously quarterback driven league. And so we I think we put our assets on that side of the ball this year. We're gonna let it see what do you? Thanks, man. Pre the phone call. It's talked to Trevor your next up. What's up Trevor? Trey what's going on guy. Trevor house Cleveland how much have you had to drink today? Quite a bit walk down the stadium right now. Cleveland barbecue, I'll let me right. Probably. We'll find out probably I'm just going be first. Cassie cheese win I've ever seen in my life or transplanting grow a month. Ten year old thirty years on Columbus. Why? Penn a my Owen four games. Wow. Are you trying to win? In fifteen coming on the field agent. He's the man he is the man is to play off here other year championships. Sure but meal, you know, years down the road, we're going to get what if you had one word to describe how you're feeling inside. What word would that be? Oh, man, come on. I can't I can't put words right now. Trevor do walk down the roast as you're walking down the road and Cleveland hold up the phone and scream out go chiefs as loud as you can. All right. I'll tell you what we've over the bottom bowl of the state, and we were paying over you Willie hurt. We heard the chop on TV that would mean you may star now. So you did you third fourth quarter? The guy we got the guys that started the chop act at the at the Brown stadium. It was on motive -able. Hey, the whole row behind me. I bought kicking myself came down here down the whole Roby high near to down with all cheese. Whole ballroom roll bottom bowl. All chase stream go chiefs as loud as you can right down the middle of the street. Chain areas. Save that beat up trying to get that guy beat up. Breaking news Kansas City transplant Trevor from Columbus had his arm ripped off Browns game after after egging on Browns fans. He was the one who started the job. So I'm glad we got that gun. Is it man? That's it. He's he's finally he saw a win it a brand in Saint Joe, Brandon. What's up? I haven't going right. I I'm just kind of recently started listening to the is like a lot of the things that you guys say, thank you. Mm. Shut down the idiots that don't quite understand. What's exactly happening? And I like that. But at the same time, I feel like there's a few things that you know, should be addressed. All right. We're I'm I'm so happy that we're eight and one, and I can't you know, like, it's kinda hard to kinda hard to wrap your head around that for just a you know, when we hit that midseason slump like normal. But I think it's I think it's definitely time that we move on from the wrong Harper experiment. That's that's gotta go. And what do you want to? What do you want to see Iran Parker's place? I don't know we need we need we need, Dan, come back, man. We need we need. Dan. We need Eric. We need them all back. And it's just it's looking like it's going to be longer and longer each week. There's there's certainly a case out there to be made that Daniel Sorensen's, I've been practicing for the last two weeks you bring him back in the fold if it's him and Lucas and Murray, you wonder if Parker or Josh Shaw, the chiefs wave goodbye, the damn Parker has been struggling the past two weeks that has been apparent, and so this is I mean, that's that's a good thought right there. Thanks to the full goal brain. And hopefully, they will get back. Thanks for checking us out Nicolay till you're next up on six tenths sports radio. What's up, Nick? How's it going? Good win expected win. So what you guys previously said yesterday about the chiefs and not being able to possibly can compete with this upper tier teams you keep forgetting their young. He's gotta be for improvement. Who can't they take chargers? All ready meet him. Steelers already be on the same thing can be said that if they wouldn't have gone at seventy nine yard strike against the. Patriots. And what it took their time down the field. They did knocked off the patriots too. But they didn't. So I'm saying they're young. They're inexperienced finally were starting to figure out how to work together. And when that comes together, there's no reason to say that these guys can't be unbeatable. Nick, let me ask you the same question. I asked these two guys eight days from now when you're watching that Monday night game, let's say that Mahomes and company lead them to thirty three thirty one lead with two and a half minutes ago. And they kick the ball off to Jared Goff and company who are going to start at the twenty five you feel good about this defense guessing. In Houston and Eric berry playing no. I would say that would probably be the just deciding factor for Bob setting in that situation, whether they get the job done. Yes. I think they can. But I think that if you can't I dates about time to get rid of Bob sentence to coordinator. Do you want start at the who want to replace Bob Sutton? Man, there's so many young offensive coordinators, but the stats don't lie over the past three years that defense has been on a steady incline here after year after year after year when do we say enough is enough. But again, do you do you have anybody in mind where you just want to maybe ringing, Robin? Rex Ryan is co defensive shut your mouth Pete, by the way being serious, by the way. Mike, I think you're Matt's little middle off right now fifteen days until chiefs Rams on Monday might give them getting over my. I am. Yeah. Fifteen days. So we got we got two weeks. I simply text line. Eric. Just jumping ahead. I'm excited for the game to overlook I don't care about the Zona again. I really don't give a rat's ass about the just cancel everything for next week program. Let's just move to Mexico right now that that'd be great Viva. Let's use. And I head to Mexico. Yeah. First week in countless kilo live worm and its first Sean you down after some time in prayer. And that took some long thoughts thinking about this as a hit the call is calling for Ron Parker calling for new in new hitch and they call them parties new players. So defensively I look at being defensive ballplayer NFL kind of like being auto mechanic, right? And if I'm auto mechanic, I'm trained to work on an Audi or whatever car I've been trained to work when I might be very good at working on that car might be not so good. We're gonna car whatever you can't just take isn't it like every car has its own way to work on it, isn't that just being all you can't take any autumn Akanik ham. Come work on your car and things going to be perfect the bomb said defense is a intricate defense. It's about being aligned to sign in the right place is very detail orientated. So the guys that we have playing guys that we brought into camp didn't know the defense that's pretty much what you got going forward. So all these hopes and dreams that we can just go in past even the free agent. Even I mean, it is what it is. We got guys in in the building that are going to be able to play this season help. And so you can you know, instead of Lucas go with Murray and instead of sourcing go it. Parker if you wanna make trades that with people that already on the roster and start some guys switch up some packages play more damned nickel plate three safeties. Instead of you know, to lamb let that kind of stuff can be changed with. But if we've talked personnel can't change, I ain't changes so live it what you get. That's the two thousand eighteen season. Hopefully, we don't have the ball. I mean, hopefully, we have the vote last possible chance was for the chiefs to acquire a Clinton Dix. They didn't make the move and a college. It was too expensive. We saw him at the race games missed like three tackles miss. I know some people want to complain about missing out on ha ha Clinton Dix. You didn't miss out on much. But now that what I'm saying is now that now that that deadline has passed that ship has sailed like he Sean is correct. These guys you're working with they're not firing Bob Sutton as much as people know say in want, this is it and they're in one. So it's these young players by the end of the season, which is still possible. Because there's what seven games left now needs to get better. Eric berry has to come back. We joke about it a lot. But for whatever reason it has to be put aside he has to get back. I believe that the team thinks he will be back. That's what you hear constantly that they really truly believe he will be back and extra midseason edition, and hopefully he makes the difference in making you a Super Bowl team or not. That's it. That's pretty much it right there that is nine seven six seven six ten or you just hope that you see more of this right here. Clock down to three down to two. He gets the snap. And he gets. And push back behind the twenty five yard line. Chris jones. Big number ninety five six six three ten to big boy, right there and all the love goes to Ford. Chris Jones have it himself a great run as well. Right back to the phones. Chiefs fans you win again, thirty seven twenty one now eight one kale, which is also by the way, pizza favorite food. You're on six ten sports radio. Don't like nobody likes kale. Alright. I every time my name. So wait a minute. Wasn't an original joke. No, not at all son of a bit. All right. You know, I hate to be that fast. Everybody only complained about the Katie especially when we with. But what the heck was going on today? I mean first off like with the D Ford strip, and they they throw thrown and it wasn't even vitiated that was closest to four that through the flag. Apparently, they just randomly just go. They pant out and then go back and move back to where they were. They reset it. Like, oh, it must've been at all five call and they go the replay. He didn't even move. He didn't play. He went right off the ball. Perfect made. Great play. And then the other thing was maybe I am. I get to work about the fictional. Grounding coal. We at halftime kale. We kind of tried to figure out in the official rule was it in the in the referees minds the clock was stopped. And when you spike a ball when the clock is stopped. That's a delay game. However, those of us that have is watch the game in a second rolled off to which the official then screwed that up. Call the ten. Second run off. And then Andy Reid said no time out to nullify the ten second runoff, and at the end it was nothing more than a Patrick Mahomes. Interception. These referees today. Have to be thanking God that there wasn't an upset and it wasn't closer. Because if the chiefs lost his game, and that crash happened at the end of the first half, people would have been limited. So they're lucky they're a little bit lucky about how that went. Yeah. I that I thought three in the fact that it was a complete path was the whistle blows the clock supposed to run again. I mean, he didn't run down that that. I just couldn't believe it just kept like at that point towards the end of the half. I say you can't do anything the laugh. I mean, I'm not gonna sit there and drill. A remote the remote that TV when we're still love, and we're still we're still beaten and beaten good. Then I mean, it's like what what do you do? I mean, it's just I couldn't believe that everybody to watch. Now, it was super confusing, and when we got on the air at the thing was like we got on the air eighteen seconds after that play happened, and you and I taking phone calls trying to figure out at the same time at halftime. Like, we don't know what happened. Because no one understands what happened kale? Thanks, man. Appreciate it coal. You're next on six sports radio. What's up call? Hey, guys. I've just curious. You know, we take the practice report whenever it comes out later in the week. And you know, it's always the same names on everybody wants to talk about berry, and he's been practicing. He's he's been a little bit this week. I saw and is back practicing. You think they're planning to bring those guys back for the Rams game. Or do you think they're going to try and hold them out until after the bye week? I think it'd be it'd be you know, even want everybody back, but it just a regular season game. And I think sometimes people kind of make a deal about it when Daniel Sorensen practices the way this works is now that he's off in practicing chiefs of three weeks again, but get him back either onto the roster or injured reserve the way that Andy Reid is talking. I see Daniel Sorensen probably be activated. I would guess sometime this week that way you get him back into the. Mix in the cardinals game. And and you have him for that big game against the Rams when it comes to Justin Houston the way that she's mediaworks during the season is the chiefs meat is allowed to watch practices for the first twenty minutes, which is mainly stretching. So I saw on Friday. And I was like wait Justin Houston, at least in stretching. Like man who could potentially play today. I I wasn't exactly sure that he would sit. He ended up obviously being out, but I- based upon my look last week Friday briefly, I would tell you that. I think that Justin Houston is back in the mix this week any almost play today he was questionable questionable, but didn't get a chance to go. How I have a serious question about Sorenson. All right, dirty dirty. Dan, I've been getting mixed reactions in guys around here on on on six ten talking to a guys you're talking to someone across Sean who loves dance aren't some duty. Dan. That's my man is he how much of it upgrade is Daniel Sorensen from anybody else that we've seen play this year. How much about great that includes Parker Murray? Lucas. Aw. I think what Dan Dan source and allows the coordinated do is he is such a such a comfort zone to be able to this leave the same personnel out there. And they're having to worry about matching personnel with the offensive personnel. Sometime net becomes a bit of a frustrating task and itself. Figuring out, you know, how many why was he how many running backs and getting the right personnel. When you have Dan Soros, and he can play box safety. He can play covering linebacker. He can play a deep safety position. He can do. I mean, he's a Jack knife of that he can play so many positions. You can leave the same personnel out there and feel very comfortable running eighty percent of your defense the place. So I think from a comfort level we can do the same things without him. But we just constantly having to change personnel between Dan doors in Lucas Murray. Hitchens all to get the same effectiveness as with just. There today. I'm being on the field. So nobility lies. He's not a giant upgrade? But it's just the knowledge that he doesn't have to come out every third play. The packages can stay the same with him in there. It's a consistency thing not not boy, Dan Sorenson is Sean Taylor. But but it also comes down like this like what we know what I'm saying is like a lot of times on defense. You have like alerts and checks basically against a certain offense the formation you want to check into a certain defense. Well, that defense isn't one of the defenses of called in a certain personnel defense personnel package. What is it that deepens up to the out, but we have dirty, Dan? And there he can do nickel damn base big nickel. So everything is up all your calls and checks and everything they stay alive. And so when you do things they call it, an automatic, call you change your, you know, your call based off of their formation because you want to get the best defense against formation all of that stuff becomes a lab again. So that's why I think the excitement to get dirty damn back on the field from a defense standpoint. And see what his defense can really do to me is very exciting. I remind people too though with thirty Dan people were so excited about Sorenson this year because. Berry would finally be back, and then Danny Sorensen's role as a safety is kind of in a secondary role. So I just caution people to thinking, okay, it's gotta reengineer lineup and make a huge difference. I mean people were excited again about his his year and his value being better because berry was supposed to be back this year. And of course, until berry gets back. We don't really know what this defense truly looks like. And when I say truly looks like it's in the playoffs because at the end of the day in Kansas City, you make you made the playoffs now last what five or six years? That's what matters. And so to me, it's what is that defense? Look like once those playoffs begin here. Patrick Mahomes coming up next. Also, we're going to hear from peanut we're going to hear from Sean. If you want to hear from you five seven six seven six ten year need from your quarterback coming up after another win for the chiefs thirty seven twenty one over the Cleveland Browns. They're eight one the signal. Caller is next seven street casino. Arrowhead drive post game show. Big extent sports radio. Eleven and counting. Touchdown. Another touchdown pass. Travis Kelsey CBS on the call. That was a bully. You're listening to seven three casino airhead pride post game show. Pete sweeney. Sean Barbara from Ireland pry dot com. Mike wicked that was a laser that Patrick Mahomes through Travis Kelsey, and he went up and snatch that thing and you heard yelled at the two that was clear. Yeah. The Patrick Mahomes to Travis Kelsey connection. It's something special in in Kansas City are two. Of. Crazy. These are to some of the greatest football players. I think are like you're ever gonna see period aside from being in the. I think Kelsey is tracking to really go down as one of the best tight ends in history, especially in chief system. Standard is Tony, you know, by the time. This is also done he may clip Stony different offense different leagues. You might see numbers clips all Tony's down the road. And I think the offense of trend in the NFL only helps that it'll be so hard to compare. I think football between like nowadays moving forward with some of the guys because of that. But even so, and even if they were playing in the same I think I would have to the numbers would be at least similar by the by. When it's all said, here's a Patrick Mahomes on the sideline on CBS after the thirty seven twenty one win over the Browns straight games over three hundred yards passing for you. You know talking to your dad on the sideline before the game. And he said I knew Patrick would make plays. But I never expected this color, you maintaining this pace. Yeah. I mean, it's about sticking with the process. We have a lot of great players are team ovens Alana block, really well. And I'm getting the ball out of my hands. I mean, it really is testament that those guys I mean, they're making plays. Seems like every single week come in this game that you'd be facing Cleveland team that had been through some turmoil this week. How were you able to avoid that false sense of security? What was the mindset? I mean when you watch these guys on tape. They have a ton of town everywhere. You know that there were two or three games away from being five and two or whatever it is. And you know that they're going to beat and they're gonna come out here and they did today. Luckily, we came out on top touchdowns for both Cleveland guys. Travis Kelsey and Kareem hunt. What can you say about the impact those guys today in front of their home crowd? Yeah. Coming back home. They were gonna play with that passionate hadn't seen yet for them to get out there and make as back home for them. And then family can see it. Thanks. I don't actually beg you courtesy of CBS joining us on the line right now barrel. Head pride dot com is our very good friend. Can't Swanson can't outside of the desperation heave at the end of the first first half in. This is a guy who was going up against a defense that turns his known for making teams turn the ball over chiefs. Didn't do that Mahomes. Didn't do that. Would you see at a Patrick Mahomes today? Kind of a little wealthy that he wound up throwing that pick too. I was I was trying to keep those off the record. But yeah, no he was exceptional day. A lot of good things. Take away from his performance remarkable officiant, he to I think he had over Levin point seven yards per attempt that ridiculous. And that would have been the best in the NFL last year by three point six yards. So yeah, a great great performance for him. And if be to rewatch you to get a couple of times this week. I know you haven't really seen every angle, but I want to ask you about to play specifically. And what you saw one was the actually let's make three first of all the kill shot down the sideline. Then the Brett farve looking play as he was getting tackled. And then later on the Travis Kelsey snatched out of the air for the touchdown. Just those three throws. What did you say? I mean, I, you know, the funny thing with the travel Cokie is, you know, you don't typically want your quarterback wind high on the frontline of the end, but you know, home sit in there you need to have anybody behind him. So I think that you know, crediting for understanding that and there was really only one person that could catch that ball is Travis Cokie. And then you know, down the field. Tyreek. I mean, this is what we've come to spec. And this is the kind of opportunity there's always some kind of a Wirt on any given play. And you know, Mahomes has been taking and capitalizing on it. I mean, it's it's stupid. There's always opportunity to score everything play with offense. It feels like. And if you get the right looking get get the right opportunity there maximizing those those chances in on. I. It was. People need to understand like understand. This is not normal. This is twenty three year old kid and doing things that you won't see on a regular basis familiar with with this whole thing of having a franchise quarterback. And this is not normal for your franchise quarterback. You're young quarterback be doing what he's doing such a high level lead film and draft analyst can Swanson on the line with us knowing watches more Patrick Mahomes film in the city outside of the chief stain can Swanson you'll be watching Patrick Mahomes all this weekend. I want to ask you about the game plan today because Matt lane pointed out something that the chiefs were able to with his team is using misdirection screens, and so on and so forth, and one thing I think we worried about with Patrick early on him being so young is one in the flash that arm all the time. That's no longer a worry at all anymore. This is a guy that can clearly follow a game plan is not going to necessarily have the desire to Chuck it down field every single time. Right. And you know, I think you know, I think there's trust built up between both in any and Patrick trust that ain't eating situations to succeed in Andy truck that he can go in handle a lot on his plate every single week. And you know, the the the rare arm talent stuff is fun, and you're gonna get off the changes every single week. But being able to execute move the chain consistently is just as critical to to all the players the end up on YouTube and Twitter. So, you know, great job taking advantage of the aggressiveness of the Cleveland defense. Just like not pointed out before the game. Even started writing about it. It's week. You know, get those big place to take the Pechiney. That's how that's how you win football games. And everything's clicking right now heating players and young quarterback. If a lot of fun to watch can't enjoy the film all this week. Thanks so much for the time. You got ten Swanson from airline cried. Screen down another touchdown on the board. Kareem hunt. You brought this up in the pre game there Pete. And we're gonna go right back to the phones as great a game as Patrick Mahomes had today. You know, he benefited a lot from some amazing plays made by a couple of guys from Ohio, and I don't like to credit you for lot called it and said look out for big games from Kelsey Kareem hunt and both had big games. Listen to predicted thirty five twenty one final two points for dictated that the the Cleveland guys would have a big day. Can't can't wait next week. What is one hundred? I said it I think going into this game and predictions. Did you make by the way on the final score? Just just the one just one just one because not everybody gets gets multiple predictions. No, I try to get come up with something my Wednesday and stick with it. Because I'm on so many things I don't want to be giving you your guy right here. Shawn barber. This was the prediction in the in the pre game playtime play time of possession real big cheese winning at thirty five twenty five. And then ten minutes later. He got this one in game predicts the chiefs thirty Bland's place late again. One. Again, I was talking about time of possession. Thirty five minutes to twenty play to play it again playtime play time of possession convert real big cheese winning that thirty five twenty five time a possess. Winning as to the topic. So it'd be up to sixty. Thank you. Who gave Barbara the calculator gave Barbara Bowman that was closer than your actual prediction. So you may want to go back to that much. Position. Thirty to twenty seven. Yeah. What was the school thirty four to thirty one thirty seven thirty seven twenty within. Let's get you on the air bed. Thanks so much for hanging. Your on six ten sports radio. Thank you. Appreciate thank you. I'll tell actually become a taste fan. I tell people I was born in today's life. We got our quarterback. Hey, we don't worry about the. They don't worry about. They gotta palm. Away, we go onto the bowl changes there. Let me know about that holiday. I love peanut I think number may payment talking about peanut first of all let me just say that logic peanut. But okay. The second thing I think that home field advantage in the playoffs is going to be Eugene not necessarily because I see our had stadium as an advantage for the chiefs. I don't necessarily think they played better or worse there. I think it'll be important for you not to be in Foxborough like that they importance of not going to Foxborough is more important than playing at stadium. Just it's almost like keep away from that. And if they can somehow get that I. First round by and have playoffs throughout. I got a pretty good chance even with this crappy defense sometimes because they do have games where they play well, even with this. Let's say crappy, let's average thank you. Let's less than average defense. They can make waves in the postseason worse than average worse than average worse than average. I mean, I still to this day do not understand. And maybe it's because sometimes the chiefs get up on your by fourteen in the first quarter to this day. I don't understand why Nick Chubb didn't have forty carries in his football game or a combined the two didn't he and do Johnson didn't have forty carries? The chiefs give up five point four yards per Carey. Carey in the NFL target. I notice the NFL twenty eighteen and he got throw it seventy times in a game. But my gosh early is gonna get the carries. So I mean, that's the thing. You know? Yes. Fifteen days not four days. Mike the game is in an hour. Tiger is going to get the carries. And you're going to see how this chiefs defense response to an elite running back yet. They're willing to give the ball to thirty times might see it next week with David Johnson, David Johnson's a hell of a running back. Everybody's stacking the box because nobody believes they can throw the football on that side of the ball. But David Johnson's damn good running back. Tom green fantasy owners about David Johnson that he's had because a lot of people obviously took them in whatever the upper echelon if you play David Johnson. Yeah. No Saint same deal. I mean same deal. I just I just don't think that's going to be much of a game. Just because of the teams, I just think Mahomes got his way. I mean, we talked about three to five touchdowns today. I mean, he may have what ten touchdowns week. I'm gonna go under put that with the Vegas. Number is for next week's pre game show over under ten touchdowns from homes, I obviously exaggerating, but he's gonna have a nice time next week. I don't doubt that. I don't doubt that at all. I mean, hell you saw. What would Denver did that team on Thursday night football? We can a half ago destroyed my fantasy week. Let's go to Sean on sixteen sports radio. What's up, Sean? That much. I guess doing doing calling. Yeah. How about this sees eight one doom? How much credit do Rio de greatest day to day in term coach and chief three. I'm Barbara, but era berry every time you see a you know, quote of the secondary over there on the sideline during the game. Eric berries over there. Coaching trying to give them insight is that me reading too much into what Eric berries importance on the five by or is Eric berry, contributing a little bit to defend even though he's not on field. I definitely think he'd be is showing what he he is seeing possession possession formation. You know? Hey, keep you as this receive a little bit longer you. He still breaks down the team before the game up to drop into much depth on this. You know, these these routes releases when I do stack release make sure your safety watch at first inside. I mean, different pointers, the coaching staff give you too, but the be able to see through the eyes of somebody who's actually been out there on the field who's played that position and giving his real time real real time reaction to what he seeing being done from an opposing offense is critical to the development of Lucas in the ability of Ron Parker and Murray to be playing at a high level, so Sean, thanks, man. Appreciate it. Five seven six six Shawn's Shawn's shit was to Sean show. Sean, Sean, you John from Joplin. I would not listen to that. Listen to one of them just on you. Let's go to Trenton not the city demand. He's in Kansas City. You're on sports radio. What's up Trenton? Hey, go great. Hey, I'm here out a statement. And I didn't wanna live. No. That are teach saying we showed up we showed out and proud of my teeth home. That's the truth. Dollar really wanna they start tailgating Trenton. Bay started about eight o'clock out here. So seven back home the Cassidy trend, you're gonna take a nice nap and get ready for Tom Brady and Aaron riders later that that the plan, I'm open Rogers. If I if I was tailgating seven AM, and I took a nap right now. I would wake up till morning. More than twelve hours sleeping after twelve hours of drinking, probably classic. Trenton, representing they're five seven six seven six ten more. Your phone calls coming up. Also, we're going to hear from head coach Andy Reid more from the quarterback, Patrick Mahomes. He's gonna step in front of the media. And you'll hear it. Only. Ready six ten sports radio. Seven street casino Arrowhead dried post game show. Big time. Sports radio. Bounds. Conversations for breakfast, six ten sports radio ESPN city. Hey are busy HD city radio dot com station. Hold your breath. Putting the review head of ninety one. Out of bounds at about the twenty one yard line. Dean Williams, number twenty six they need to get the ball to tyreek hill they just block it now that led to an eventual touchdown on CBS. Thanks to call Arrowhead pride dot com editor in chief, Pete Sweeney. The former chief linebacker Sean Barbara in studio, I Mike wicket five seven six seven six ten the phone number. Chief swin lines are open. Chiefs fans team is eight and one getting right now we're getting from Patrick Mahomes here in just a second as well. As Andy Reid eleven. Both were you right here on six ten sports radio going over some numbers here with Mr. Barbour about defensive efficiency talking about points, given up total defense, and I know there's some other factors that are in here. But defense of statistics and points, give it up the Kansas City. Chiefs rank twenty first coming into this week in the National Football League in twenty five point six points per game. And Sean, you tell me that is the most important. Fat. Not rush yards a pass yards or whatever it is about the points given up right? I mean, the the wins and losses according to the scoreboard. It doesn't matter a yards per game yards. How many rushing yards though meta receiving yards passing yards? None of those things matter if you don't get to the end zone Keith through the field goal for points. So when it comes to points giving up I can't say cheese twenty first twenty to twenty five point six in the difference between them being twenty first in what you call middle to row, which is sixteenth is one point per game. It is that would be the Pittsburgh Steelers. Who are also if the playoffs started today would be the leaders in the AFC north your playoff teams right now. Here's where they rank in the AFC in points per game. Allow before we go back to the phones. Chiefs twenty-first New England twelve Pittsburgh sixteenth. He was denied the best of the playoffs team teams right now the. The chargers thirteenth Cincinnati twenty ninth. I don't know what actually believes in Cincinnati. So they're the outlier. Kansas City's right there in the mix and their offense is so much better than most of those teams is said does it offset it, I just I think they'll get into a situation if the play doesn't improve where you'll get into a dicey situation. I think you want to just be a little bit more sure of your defense. I'm not saying that it is unfit symbol or they can't play better. I'm saying right now, you just aren't as comfortable and Mahomes is great. I'm reading right now. What's coming through on NFL now is played ten career games with twenty nine touchdown passes three thousand one hundred eighty five passing yards? That is the most Mahomes is the only player in league league history with three thousand plus passing yards of this first ten career games. I think that this chiefs team in Britain vetoed building toward two. Thousand nineteen and this is just been a grand pleasant surprise. I guess, but what is like I said what's tough about that? And what's hard about that is too bad? I mean, they they they have to find a way to play better defensively because this is this could be your opportunity, we talk. I, you know, it's a point. I made several times if you listen to my stuff you heard it before. But again, drew Brees an Aaron Rodgers playing for ten plus years. They have one Super Bowl title, each the success doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna have the same success in twenty nineteen because things happen, you gotta get it done this year, by the way, not that we want anybody turn it on but Ramses and saints the top two teams in the national in the NFC and arguably you can say two of the top three teams in the NFL right now just under the second quarter. It's fourteen fourteen. I mean, those teams are arching up and down the field on each other. And those are the one two t one and two seats in the NFC playoff started right now. So again defense matters put into. Days NFL, the differences so infinitesimally small that is it brings everybody close together and this offense that chiefs fans get to watch is so far ahead of everybody else. Like the saints offense like the Rams offense, and you're gonna see in fifteen days right night. And now you got it down. Now. Not eight calendar. It's hard because you don't wanna overlook team like the cardinals. But they're sitting there too and six and like I said, I just can't see a way that they win. And so like the attention is going to sort of be on that Monday night football game. I think even probably starting now again, I it's so scared overlook team. But I just like I said it just can't see the. But anyway, you look you think about that Monday night football. It's going to be a good measuring stick because you'll you'll get I mean that is a playoff team that's championship team. At the biggest odds they've been there all year, they has them as Super Bowl favorites, they can compete and they can win against the Rams then there's no other team that should scare you in the National Football League. It's like what's the next test? You know, it was okay. Sandy L A on the road, Pittsburgh on the road. I think if you go to axon Ville, so if you soon cardinals win solicits do that this is by the way, how trap gave I know. This is exactly how trap game. But if you assume cardinals win, right and you go into this game. And let's say you convincingly win against Los Angeles Rams at that point. You're playing against yourself. I championship. There's no other better team than you. And you should know that. And so at that point just let's keep playing our game. Let's go. Let's go and get this for Kansas City. I I don't I don't disagree with that whatsoever. Let's go right back to the phones in here from you. We got to Andy Reid covetable. So we'll hear from Patrick Mahomes. Danny you're next up in prairie village. Hey, what's up? Danny. Hey, how you guys doing listener? My San excited to be where we are. Now. I think it's the best team. I can remember in memory two questions. One is how can we approve in terms of our penalties against because I look at a game today. I mean, we from my perspective, we covered them. We should've convert them, but you never wanna see double digit penalties. And then number two is I'm with everyone where I think we're playing for the nineteen season not the eighteen if you know, and what I looked to as evidence of that would Marcus Peters trade because I'm not. Sure, if we generally thought we'd be here right now would we which was the relationship with Clark line in? Peter's was it so bad that we still would have trade him traded him or was that just more gearing towards nineteen. Thanks. Thank you first question. He had was about penalties against the chiefs took eleven penalties today for eighty six yards that is unacceptable against a better team. You're giving them too many opportunities with that not to say the referees were exactly perfect today. They were far from it. I think that needs to be cleaned up. I asked at the enemy this week about all the false start penalties and be enemy came back and said while they're dressing them. And he's emphasizing them. That's not something you want to continue harping on because they want these guys to play loosen, easy and free that being said again, you you you can't take more than ten penalties against some of these better team, especially again in a playoff scenario. So yes, one hundred percent that needs to be cleaned up. And then the second point was with Marcus Peters trade. I don't want to Kansas City gets tired of hearing about Marcus Peters. But for a few days on his team. And he's not having the greatest years. I understand that a few days on this on this on this team. You had KENDALL fuller and Marcus Peters seem Nelson's playing. Really? Well today, I think he was one of the better players. We saw out there. I don't think necessarily the Peter's trade meant that. The chiefs were thinking about twenty nineteen from what I've heard, and I I try to talk to a lot of people. The general feeling is our lot of reasons for Marcus Peters departure. I don't think building for twenty nineteen was one of them. The the pro football focus grades are out by the way, if you'd like to hear what what a guess where Marcus Peters rakes, according to the nerds pro football, focus, take a wild guess where he ranks. Oh, I wouldn't be bringing it up. If he was number two one hundred. I is great is grades have been bad. I mean, but that's got a forty nine seven grade. That's one outlet and the way that he plays his game is a little bit riskier than the average cornerback. They made probably I mean, I haven't I haven't been watching in Hawkeye, Marcus Peters share. But I'm sure he's taking some risks. And they're not paying off as much this year. That'd be my guess Landau Scandic ranked as the forty third tell that to our boy Ron to the show showing tended to during the week. But yeah, no. It is starting to look a little bit better for the chiefs at first, you know, when you your trading former defensive rookie of the year and player that's getting on all pro teams pro bowls. You're a little bit question. Your questioning what you know what they're doing. But again, maybe there was more to it. Maybe the chiefs personnel staff knew something that we didn't. I think you have to bring that up at this point. Inside the twenty yard line and Nelson back to the thirty five that was on CBS. Least Nelson got picked today. I mean, I know Mr. Barbour, you're not the biggest Baker Mayfield fan and he stared out his receiver. Not the biggest Baker Mayfield. Let's let's pull the curtain back. Shawn barber has been talking down on Mr. Mayfield all day long. A good game. He's not a first overall pick talent. He's not he was a walk on in college. He had a good create Oklahoma in a cookie cutter on your part of the world. It's Baker against the world. And you're part of that. And then put me on the president. I include. Talks of crap. Don't back it up. I mean, you know, he does we do he's he's he doesn't heed hasn't been given the greatest amount of talent. He hasn't been great coaching around me. He hasn't been given much to work with. And he's doing a terrific job. What he has to work with. But. Yeah. You know, he just not SEM staredown receives too much. It's. Career. Okay. Week nine. What does that mean? The thing that Baker doesn't. The thing that Baker doesn't benefit from that Mahomes. Did is that year to just sit and learn the NFL game and play with the scout team at practice and stuff. Like that. Like, I don't necessarily think Mahomes would be having the success. I think he'd be good. I think he'd be better than may feel as a rookie. But I don't think we'd be seeing this Mahomes had he not gotten that extra year. Mayfield wasn't afforded that luxury. I feel so. You don't because you're so you get selected number one overall and go to the Browns and somebody else is Airbus's fault that you didn't have no one's blaming it. You're you're blaming him for for not being we're Mahomes Zet right now. I don't think we saw Carson Wentz have success before the second year just because he was thrown into stunk. Eagles go to his first year. I'm not gonna judge goes eight. I'm not gonna judge this season. And right off Mayfield and say because I think you have to give them your going to be a no. And if you listen and ear knockabout, Patrick, Mahomes, one of the reasons that he says one of one of the reasons that he says four homes having this like so much success. So early is because of what Alex Smith was able to do for him. And that's teach him how to prepare how to be a leader on the promo Kate success. One of the greatest enemies success. Is it takes away your ability to be humble and be hungry. I think that Baker Mayfield camouflages a lot of his flaws by the fact that he was a has been trophy win. Six highly successful in college. And someone somebody's come and telling them that you stare down. You're too long. You don't set your feet, you're not decisive about your reads, you don't get in and out of place. A lot of that stuff Iro's off his back like water on on duck's back. You know what I'm saying? It just doesn't stick with them. Because he thinks I'm better than that. But he ain't the ain't what the NFL does it takes those flaws and even to coordinators are going to exploit him his entire career because too many people thinking because he's the first overall pick. He's good good ain't gonna be great. And ain't gonna be great. John Dorsey went out and got Toronto Taylor. Right. John Dorsey is a guy who if he doesn't believe in the player he'll trade back for the picks. I just don't think and this is my opinion. Sean, I just don't think John Dorsey is putting his name and and picking Mayfield at number one. If this kid doesn't at least have a legitimate chance to be a top ten core. Do we we know what John John Dorsey loves moxie? He loves somebody in the building. And he can talk ball with this going to get on TV and make fun of them. Put his clothes on Kansas City. Year twenty twelve this man built a roster and got the team to the playoffs a year later. Alex Smith has. Alex, Scott such little respect homes got moxie acquired both the cap issues. He he who got almost single handling. Andy Reid has. I don't know. I can't really say a hundred percent of John got those guys. Eater. Think about how things. Rochat three nine games of thirteen. There's lot of defensive players on the roster. No, more too. So we all wanna talk about the MRs own a quarterback was issue. But we give them the draft Defoe. Lord. Let's name all the people drafted because there's a lot of Cornerbacks that ain't here right now. We're drafted by a great offense of talent evaluator, but not a good defense. If that that's the argument, we're making then Mayfield should be great. Right. Exactly. But he ain't let's hear from. Week nine of his willing to take to stare down a receiver about coach you and say, listen, if we wanna go to juice on this play you might want to look at the safety in freeze a safety before you thought a ball. He don't do that. He looks right at us before the snap juice. I'm coming your way nine games from right now, tell me tell me week one year right now, I hope they play them. Again. How many wins Baker Mayfield head is you? How many wins are the Browns gonna help Baker Mayfield ham? Baker has got at least two so far. He's got at least two so probably two more. He lost also lost to overtime games. I don't tell me. No. He almost you win. You lose right over time. Win all you grow. And he ain't growing healing. Right now. I'm I'm I'm with I really agree with Mike wicket. We are nine games into the game man's career. I'm just not ready to tell you that he's one way or the. We just started playing football now weeks ago just started playing physical sand. Sanjay started playing NFL ball. Oh, so so when you look down to receive a L cla Homa, you get away with it get away with it. So it's the same stakes. He's making echo, Oklahoma. But because they had better talent he's making this level. Right. So the player you are in college is who you're going to be in the NFL tell that to Tom Brady, did you know, he was picked one hundred ninety nine overall. And he's the goat and hat and games Lewis career probably wouldn't to and you're all not even Jack. Oh, you're not even considering the fact that he was with Hugh Jackson like whoever Jackson a bad coach head coach ex worst. Statistically, he's the worst coach Ford every morning, but the only. Stat that matters in your mind is wins in loss. I need to see points. Yeah. He was. He was unable to score more points. Forty four time. I wanna see Mayfield in the second season with the head coach who's good with quarterback develop when they hire Lincoln Riley. If if he's doing the same things in his second year and at the end and then after after the two years he's looking to say making the same mistakes. I say, okay, you know, what may feel mistake nine games in. They just fired the head coach. I mean. Game. It's a disaster. We went over they've had twenty six coaches in thirty years they've been a winning coach since ADA donning to watch hot knots again and watch what use tales the whole team about that Clinton tally. We have to get about that practicing. What a little into that was. Hugh's fault. That's he's the head guy. Come home, you'll blame everything on everything on the, hey. Moving the goalposts on me. I never know where we're they actual goes that that the players are like that. I look at the head coach John Dorsey did get it. Right. When when the chiefs decided to go after Patrick, Showtime Mahomes, and he spoke to the media in Cleveland following today's when we've got a four year right now for that in. I've left pocket little early opened up. And I threw the ball behind them. Not a great catch and got the first down and kinda got the change of moving. Yeah. We we've been over that situation. That was on me. We saw the penalty the metaphor you accept or decline the clock stops. So technically me spiking the ball. Like that is like it's like almost like an intentional grounding penalty like but at the same time. I think the rest said that they had never seen it in like four years forty years. And so it was the we we were getting there. And I just thought the the pill club was gonna roll. So I wasn't trying to spike in say the time out and. Shorts actually told me you can't do that. But I thought we could just try to get away with it, and we didn't. So I mean it made a difference for sure it in that in that half. Since. I thought he played really really well catch the ball back then running the ball. I mean, he's he's a pivotal point in his office. I mean when he's running the ball like that as well as catching out out of the backfield. It makes it just that much harder for defensive stop us. And I feel like when you have guys who are just trying to do their role and be the person that they are as when you have those offenses. It's a lot of fun. I mean, it makes our job a lot easier knowing that I can kinda I can trust. These guys are gonna be in the right spot. I mean, they're taking care of their business. They're they're running the routes and making adjustments kind of on the fly. Just because they've looked at the film and know how to do those things. And so them have that much talent as well. As being I mean, you really just studying the film that much. I mean, that's what makes our offense. So good. I mean Travis is always excited. But yeah, I mean, I knew that they wanted to play. Well, they wanted to win here. I mean, they they love they love it back here in Cleveland. And so they wanted to be play well in front of their families. And so it was it was cool for them to both have five touchdowns between both of them. Over to say, what what what are we? I mean football's it's family. I mean, everybody knows what we all. Go through never want anyone to be injured. So I know we had two touchdown. We Twitter touch cream going to make sure today was all good. And I mean, hopefully, he's he's healthy. So. Yeah. I mean biggers may I talked about it before. And after the game. I mean, he's he's a great guy. He has he has a ton of talent. And he's keep getting better every single week. I mean, he played well today. And I mean the future's bright for him. And the Cleveland Browns with him at quarterback. Looks like we have lost Patrick Showtime Mahomes. You will get you the rest of what he had to say. Following today's win over the Cleveland Browns that up into the line for you at five seven six seven six ten five seven six seven six hundred you can send us a text into the protein house eight with a purpose. Text line six nine three zero six is the text line number. Chiefs win there now eight and one and people are all over you right now are the text line not giving big field. Enough time a bunch of Browns. Yeah. A bunch of brownies. Well, let me tell you about Pat homes in this post game reaction that y y while he is. So it's called the ABC's of being a young quarterback. Number one. Is accountability. He starts off with personally after the ball behind them. I gotta do better. I gotta do take an accountability for each and every throat believer. That's the be all right believe or he believes in his players. He don't ask the nobody else. I don't need better receivers. I don't need a better coordinator better. Nothing in see is he's a competitor he will grow. And he learns from every situation as he spoke about that late games narrow late half scenario where he thought he could get away with something didn't those are the ABC's. And those are the things that you'll blame Baker Mayfield. Lex the a the B and the C a hang you'll get no better today. Because too many people patting them on his back to them the MS. Okay. Wait until next season. We're going to build around you you just keep being who you're going to be don't lose your competitive. Fire don't lose that that spirit that moxie. You have this continue to be you Baker Mayfield. So stop being optimistic. Stop his sees his team. So bakers boys should stop the Browns should stop telling him to be optimistic killing me. It's okay. Don't worry. You've got a lot to do. We're still behind. We should get away from that the judgment of Patrick Mahomes by Sean, Barbara, I'm sorry. The judgment of Baker Mayfield by Mr. Barbour today is ridiculous. But I do like the point you're bringing up about Mahomes, and this is something I've noticed in the homes, and when he has press conferences, I mean you'd see him on the field. He showboats he throws muscles up. There was a Jif of him. Yelling. I think it was at the Steelers will stop me, then he's competitive and he's cocky on the field, and I like that. And then when you get to the podium, he's never called any players out. He's pulling any Jalen Ramsey's. And if you really listen to and this is going to make some people here on six ten sports radio too happy. I know. During the week. But he's got a lot of things that he says that Andy Reed says like if you hear them on me guy, he'll say sometimes guys flying around. They're a good team. My teammates. What did you think of this? Oh, well, Travis made a good catch. He sounds like Andy Reid, and I think that's by design. I think he's taking in all the knowledge that Andy Reid has had for twenty years. And I think that's a major part of why he's been so successful, which Sean is why let's see which head coach. They get four Baker Mayfield this year. You got to write it off. It's been a disaster a mess and Todd Haley, I think is part of that. And it's good that they've wiped that out. Now, let's see for the future, unfortunately in football and people's careers. You don't get reduced and redo you this year. You may feel a mulligan mulligan, they should've left Tyrone tail out there. They should let them out there. And then let let let bakers this. This season is awash. Let him sit on the sideline and learn let's do like we've seen so many other teams do and be successful. No. They want them that this trial by fire. And so he's all these all these losses going on his own his career. Whether you we want to a net, we ain't going. We ain't gonna push reset at the beginning next season. It's okay. The slate is clean for this kid. No. He's still staring down receivers. I don't think we hearing in that you can be NFL quarterback in stared down the primary CBA on a Pash amount. And the defense aligning slap the ball down getting your face getting your way. That's just not how you play the game at deposition. No one saying he's a great quarterback right now. I am appalled. Won't even give. Good. Right. I would I take that back. I'm not appalled. I I am shocked getting good that a guy who played in the. National Football League for as long as you did who watched so many young players progressing out that when you came in you weren't you weren't a great player your rookie season. So many years ago, Mr. Barbour yessiree, I play I just pay special team play hearts. Business guys on six ten probably dog. Pursues everything he does takes can we go back Vesco yelling and bitching about something. All right. Wrath angles. That's not what you know. What you've got better. You didn't do the stuff? You did in college. Did you? Ranted the Maytag may play. Ball teams birth? Give me give me in the right place. Right defense. Never never thought. I'd see it never thought. I'd see the day. Mike, Mike, dropping some knowledge. Find John finally. You know, what I like seeing? I like seeing the NFL make some of these young guys eat a little crow. To come from Oklahoma defense entire team is better than everybody. You play except for like one game the whole year when Georgia comeback to beat him. Whenever flying flags around. You're grabbing your crotch against cans all these things, right? Right. You show in the Nixon regime. This is the way to be a a excellent. Top ring quarterback of. No, no, no serious ain't but but he got by with that. And no coach was even sitting at a tell him. He's wrong. Games a year. I'm saying the winning doesn't that take? It doesn't take priority over the fact that he was still doing things wrong. But because the Oklahoma Sooners was winning everybody counted this as a winner he didn't. I don't think he started his last college game though. Right. Because he I think that was. K state. So he did get punished. And you know, there was that whole emotional press conference. He bist in tire series shot. You don't think he learned from that? That might be the smooth. That's the series has told him not to. That's why stares down because he missed as he played this. He would. It must be something like that. So somewhere in his in his you know, what would have really helped Baker Mayfield go into Todd Hayden instead of going to Todd Haley, go to Andy Reid instead of going to the Cleveland Browns being drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs. If Baker Mayfield goes to a better situation. Maybe he looks better seven games. He does Shawn going. I don't think Eddie read would have been interested in Mayfield. Let's say he was let's just play the game with me here, boys. Let's say that the chiefs needed a quarterback they had Alex Smith one. They wanted to move on. Beck down under saying, I just think of because of mayfield's personality. I don't think read let's say re doesn't have the power and VH drafts him anyway. Right. Never never. All right. Andy Reid is signing off on food that gets delivered to the stadium on Fridays. It's any read I can't describe any rita's the king of the chiefs. We can you know to the like playoff cups. We can talk real these playoff cups. Okay. Line real life scenario is that Jerry Gulf right? When he was with the got rid of from Tennessee, what's his fish? So they didn't have any true to to him. And he was having a horrible start to his career. But the mentally he was still a good quarterback. He wasn't staring down people. He was looking at. He could he just no-one taught him how to like set his feet in politics throws. We need you to step up into pocket. Those things are being overlooked. And he was just trying to be an athlete out there. Those are the same things that are going on man Baker Mayfield. But I'm saying because Becca may feel has this this this. I'm gonna always be alright moxie he ain't even learning from his own. Mistakes. He's gonna continue to do what he does no matter who they bring in there. And this you tell me that there's another Sean McVeigh some quarterback whispered is land around the debris higher next Mike McCarthy's in the mix. We was he is pretty good. He's not gone who got fires plays Mike McCarthy in he's coaching tonight in Rappaport. Put Mike McCarthy on the list of guys would be interested. I believe the same. Let's see how plays out. Hugh Jackson was a joke. I know you like him. But he I mean, he went four games. What was it three years? Jared Goff your boy Jared goff's quarterback rating is first year. We started seven games kind of like baker's gonna do sixty three bakers right now is almost eighty all right? Eight touchdowns to six picks whole bunch of yards for for Baker. He's completing fifty eight percent of his passes your boy. And I the league is changed even two years. I understand that. But Gough five touchdown seven picks and fifty four percent completion percentage. He's having a better start to his career then Jared Goff and Gough is one of the top ten quarterbacks in the league. Right. We can do a servant turf. Bet mean you you said. It's to be the QB rating right now on Baker Mayfield is what right now, it is seventy eight point nine seventy eight point nine. And so you are you are you thinking into the season is gonna be above eighty five. You think he's gonna get better as he? Above eighty above. So you'll give them one point one better than he play tonight that for a rook. Okay. So that's what I'm saying. Until people stop taking his, you know, this this this averageness saying, okay, he stands he's he's okay. Because he gets eighty QBR quarterback greatness eighty. We can win with. No, you can't win eighty don't. You can't win with eighty his quarterback. Call me in two years quarterback rating. We'll be over one hundred. Oh, I'll take that back bet that that take that back to the Bank someone's that are minor in their phones we can. Post Dane, Cleveland versus the cheese. Baker Mayfield knew it'd be no in near one hundred one hundred two years into years. Better weapons around considering twenty considering this is a chief postgame show. I also want to bring up the game. Sorry. This about Travis Kelsey and Kareem hunt. You heard Mahomes mentioned those as well cream hunt had seventeen attempts for ninety one yards and two touchdowns. Yeah. The catch for fifty yards and the touchdown Kelsey finishing with seven receptions for ninety nine yards and two touchdowns. Those are two weapons. And this is something I think them Mahomes has an advantage with as well just the weapons around him. That's you know, that's what why there's even the beef with Sammy Watkins, it's just toys that he has to play with. I mean, you see Kareem hunt. And I understand girly has the numbers. I'm hard pressed to believe that you're finding much better of a running back option than Kareem hunt. And he has the best tight end in the league. And I think retiree kills making a case to be one of the better receivers. It's just the situation that he's in. It is just so lucky. I mean as talented as he is. And he's tasers talented as hell I think we all know that that situation that he's in is it couldn't be any better when you include anti read, and I think you see that more and more like we were worried about cream on at the beginning of the year. Look what he did today. Look what he does. And that fifty yard touchdown. I mean, these guys in open space, whether it be hill. Kelsey hunt. Elite in the National Football League. And they're all on the same team. I mean, it's nice when you when you get dropped into the situation, and you don't get dropped into Nick chub and. Landry. The joke. Try to turn the page. Nice. I tried to turn the I tried to keep paying me. What happens when you get dropped into this great situation. I mean, you can argue Mahomes as the MVP of the league you did be Mahomes. It'd be girly liberals wanna throw into that mix. I mean, drew Brees doesn't throw the ball anymore. But whoever I mean, Patrick Mahomes was dropped into the perfect situation. And every week we run out of superlatives to us about this every week. We were like, well, what are we say this time? What are we gonna say this time next week's postgame show? They win forty two to six. What are we gonna sing another five five touchdown day for for should actually be an interesting show in week because next week nothing more than a pre game show before the Rams game now. Yeah. I mean, that's what I mean. I it's going to be everyone is gonna have their I like that. If you wanna talk about trap games that is true trap game. Because you're going to be this team. This cardinals team. I watched them play. I think it was a national game against the Broncos. And that team is an awful team. It just as an awful team in the chiefs are rolling, and it should be an afterthought next week. I know that Andy Reid guaranteed on Monday to go to that podium say he's looking forward to the challenge of the Zona cardinals. This'll be Wednesday. They're good football team. They're not indie like this. This is the one time that you can't even really like say that with a straight. You'd still yes. I mean, but you still have to get through Sunday like yourselves show up the game plan yourself win that football game before you get to the Rams I'm excited for the Rams games too. But you gotta get through this game. All right. We'll get to more your phone calls. You want to jump in five seven six seven six five seven six seven six ten your thoughts on this. What is the the chiefs? They don't blow out Cleveland, but they handle Cleveland thirty seven twenty one on the road. Now. Eight one textile and always opened six nine three zero six don't forget the hit us up on Twitter at Arrowhead pride. Hashtag AP six ten. We'll get to more your phone calls and the head coach of your Kansas City Chiefs. Andy Reid coming up next seven street casino Arrowhead dried post game show. Big time sports radio. Seven six seven six ten is the phone number. Sean Barbara piece Wayne Mike lick it with you here here on the seven three casino Arrowhead pride post game show as the chiefs get Joe I get the job done, and they keep going with a thirty seven twenty one win over Cleveland quarterback Patrick Mahomes about sticking with the process. We have a lot of great players in our team often salons block and really well. And I'm getting the ball out of my hands. I mean, it really is a testament to those guys. I mean, they're making plays. It seems like every single week. They are they are. They're making plays. No matter. What I mean? They it doesn't matter who it is. When you got the big dogs in there. We were talking about the everything that Mahomes was dropped into Pete. You've got the big names the hill. The hunt the Kelsey, but everybody else to and I mean, a lot of people dog Sam Watkins made place cut five or six balls today. Conley had a caught a pass today. It's not just the one guy. Right. And that to me too. If you watch him he offers something. Where I actually made this comment during the week a lot of quarterbacks you'll see the National Football League. They'll fall in love with one or Seaver tight end or running back just depending on the weapon, and you could see Mahomes. I mean, of course, he uses hunt hill, and Kelsey I think a little bit more than the others, but you can see Mahomes, he's not afraid to throat any single person. Whether that be Chris Conley to meet Harris to markets Robinson, even the sausage. I mean, the sausage. He threw for touchdown. And so you have to know where he is at all times. Like, that's what's so scary about the chiefs offense. And and I think that's what kind of makes me cringe is just it's historically good. And there's no questioning that. So I just hope and you cross your fingers, and you just try to send good vibes that the defense doesn't ruin the season for you in the post used to be there's no way in hell you can possibly win title with the defense that allows twenty points. The game. That's where the cliche that defense. Defense would championships. You know, and it's just I don't necessarily think it's the case because you look at the top teams in the league their defenses aren't really all that great. No. I mean right now, we're watching the perceived best team in the National Football League. Who's the best team in the NFL, Sean? Okay, NFL. If you're not a former Kansas City chief. The rams. All right. It was the best team in the NFL. Pete. Los Angeles Rams are the only undefeated team left. They got a names everywhere. What's scored the Rams saints game right now? These saints are up twenty eight fourteen to touchdown lead right now minute to go in the second quarter. I mean, it's it's a cliche to say defense wins championships. It's a it's a cliche to say anybody can beat anybody. But in the league right now, it's not about defense. It really isn't Sean you played in an era where defense actually mattered as a guy who played on the defensive side of the ball. I mean, how is it different? When you watch the what we see now in all these teams score twenty five and thirty points game compared to when you guys played. Obviously, everything is just a. You know, the difference now because it's so many things take the quarterback you have to hit him in between not hired in the head. But not below the waist when you do hit him. You can't land on to throw them. Now receivers once they go up to his you know, catch a ball. If you hit them what they try before they get down in a stuffed in this. The receivers being so many ways that a defend Desta try to manage or enter played the correct way. You don't see guys on defense being able to just to go be athletes. Just we used to have a term where we would like, you know, you hit anything moving. We wanted. We wanted to feel like smoke like you hit a gasohol you smell smoke. They also just the collision you wanted to smell some friction like that that whole era of football is now gone now everybody just has to wait for the player to complete his kit. And I tried to punch the ball out or get them down. Or you know, string is different is different way of playing football. That is more offense of orientate to them being successful offense talking right now as Jared goff's threw an interception in the hands of great Jared. Throws an interception. All right. I think you know, if the season ended right now, and there's always the hypothetical question that, you know, I think that a lot of that is talk radio. But you take these four teams, right? It's the saints. The Rams the patriots and the chiefs you would think would probably be the last four teams left. What is your over under for the championship Sunday? I mean, you you think what is one hundred fifty is that? Unreasonable thing that between both of those games. You get one hundred fifty point like, I don't necessarily think that that's too crazy. No. I don't think you're not something. You could see let's say it's the patriots and chiefs, and let's say it's these two teams were watching right here. Again, that's states. The Rams and saints was thirty seven thirty sound like a reasonable score in both games. Absolutely does. So I mean, I mean I remember watching not too long ago the thirty for thirty on the eighty five bears. If either of you guys saw that one it was incredible. Because that forty sixty fence that that they played. I mean, they crushed people. I mean, Barbara that's probably what you grew up watching that that's gone that doesn't happen anymore hit nobody. So you just try to bat balls down. You try to you know, try to get the budget on create a turnover create a phone Bill. I mean, we talk about you know, points per game is important also like sex and turnover so chiefs rank as far as sex turnovers. Those probably three stats together. And then you take pills. Definitely a big part of it Indesit. If there's one thing glaring about our entire team that I think that we must get better at because we're thirty first in the league at penalties. And I think the. Oh Steelers twenty thirty second with thirty four thirty first Steelers thirty second. That's the only team in in penalties. But all everybody else, man. You know, see somebody's in six I seventh fourth thirteenth all the other playoff. Third are not really being heavily penalised in Dustin. Last thing. You want to do is go into postseason with a team that you know, is built to win in because you let the zebras let's call them to Bruce you let the referees and the ups. Take the game out of your hand and start making the gentle flake start to determine the game. That's that's those are the things that are hard to live with. That's that's a hard off-season swallow. You mentioned some important stats in there. And again, it's just a different league. And I'm not making excuses. Get four hundred seventy five yards a game or whatever. The chiefs were doing at the beginning of the year, but giveaway takeaway now a lot of that has to do with the guy you have throwing the football chiefs rank fifth in the I'm sorry. Chiefs are plus five tied for seven in the National Football League in takeaway giveaway. Chiefs are currently third in sacks in the National Football League. So I mean, everybody can take statin twist stat they get pressure on the quarterback. They force turnovers and the quarterback doesn't turn the ball over himself. That's a good combination. True. No it is. I look I look I look at the teat and back on Sean good side. I look at a team. I look at the chiefs as a team, and they really truly may be a healthy Eric berry away from which should be your Super Bowl favorite. So now it becomes a question of chiefs. Tell us what is going on. Is he going to come back healthy? What is the percentage of Eric berry that we're getting is dirty Dan in the mix? Thirty dirty Dan in the mix, and then you have Jordan Lucas, and Eric Mary around park more. So as you're deaf than everyone goes back to the rose they were supposed to be. I think you're looking at a stronger chance to win a Super Bowl, Anthony Hitchens and Reggie Ragland. They have not been the dynamic duo that Brett beach plan for yet. I think that could change by the time the seasons. I don't know if they've been completely healthy as a year has gone on yet. So I wanna see this defense. I wanna see this defense with a healthy dirty. Dan. I wanna see this defense with a healthy Eric berry. I want Anthony Hitchens and Reggie rag on the play the better those things off they all can happen. And you have the offense role in like it is. You're the Super Bowl favorite. I understand. It looks like the saints are gonna knock off the Rams you maybe playing the saints. But I think then Mahomes, even at this stage of his career could beat drew Brees in a Super Bowl. That's where you're at right now in Kansas City. It's crazy to say because this kind of came out of nowhere with this Mahomes kid, but you're right there. You're right there. I got the current odds before this week's games. So this was as of four or five days ago, your Super Bowl odds, and these are the people that know more than I antibody. No, no, more to me that ain't a more than anybody. Sean. There's two people in the room. No, more than usual. Sean your fantasy team. The only reason. I can't take you to today. You guys on the text line next year. I want our fantasy to be auction draft. So I can key note and highlight the players I wanna go get I wanna pay as much money for them. I will put together eighteen we'll go probably almost undefeated, it might you know, can't something's. But I'll put together such a dominant team if I don't have to go through this snake draft mumbo jumbo may what most people do. Auction drafts with a real man's? You know, that's the kind of. Draft Baker Mayfield. No. Don't care. What round it is your Super Bowl? Odds the fourth. Best odds in the league the saints currently seven to one patriots six to one these second-best odds in the National Football League, by the way. Touchdown Alvin Kamara the second. Best odds to win the suit to win the Super Bowl right now. Chiefs ninety two Rams eight to five I bet those odds change after they are now down twenty one points going into halftime the ram came in with the six overall defense as far as points, given do you think did they knew they need to stop Alvin Kamara? I believe they did nothing is this third. Touchdown it. I'm playing him. So he's going to have five more. Yeah. This is the caught one ran one third. If you don't think that Kamara girly and James white aren't gashing his chief. It's got to have to be Mahomes out scores. And that's how you I mean. That's how you're going to win. Unless like I said like unless all those things happen, then I just explained where I think the inside linebackers play better. And you finally get very back after all these joking and so on and so forth. Creatine cream president quarterback is the ultimate equalizer. But nothing was like a sex strip fumble. That's I think that actually won the Super Bowl for the Broncos. Right. Von miller. Cam come come out against Cam. It also wanted for the who just beat the patriots eagles eagles. Right. That was a sex. Fumble ended up game took the ball out of Tom Brady's hand. It was called back. Unfortunately, due to offsides today, but Ford has shown a knack recently and even should it in this game. Again, it was called back to strip sack like that's part of his repertoire now who reminds me of what Tomba Ali would do, you know back in his prime. It's not only sack the quarterback. But when he is not going to quarterback finding away to jar that bar ball loose Neka change a game. Like you right about that likes to say the chiefs. We're in a situation where they may lose a game whether it be late in a regular season or in the playoffs. The fort comes around the outside. And all of a sudden your ball changes the game get the ball back in the hands of Patrick Mahomes. So to like Ford a very underrated part of this season. I I feel more since you and I started doing the pre game show back in the preseason. Eight way back. It was. Three months ago, hashtag the throw. The whole city, but he was Mahomes was the MVP of the preseason because a one throw. And I thought the defense was a joke, and they had no chance, and I thought the offense was going to be mediocre and dog on Mahomes because he was on paper hadn't proved anything in this in this in this league. And then you watch everything progressing, you always watch. What else is going on in the National Football League? I've never actually felt that the chiefs where he's Super Bowl contender until we are having this conversation right now. That's good right now, I believe they are sue I always thought defensive come back to bite him bell check'll figure something out. It's the playoffs. Mahomes is still unproven in the postseason. But for the first time, I believe they are Super Bowl contender after this conversation. We've had Mike. That's what we call a break for growth grew today. Thanks, guys. Our doing good. Brought us some clues. Thanks, guys. Sheets. Nice and rosy, it's from elk hall. Seven six seven six ticket shots. We'll take some final calls. If you want to sneak one in you can't five seven six seven six ten we'll get to more your text messages as well at six nine three zero six seven street casino. Aero head dried post game show. Sports radio. Second. Screen. Thirty. Touchdown keith. Yeah. I mean, I feel like he's gonna same guy since last year. He led the NFL rushing last year, and he can just do every aspect of the game. The beginning of the season. I mean other guys kind of going off. But I think we kind of said as often every every other game it could be your game. So as long as you're doing your job. I mean, you're gonna get your chances in the last few weeks. It's been him. He's been the guy that's been really carrying the load on this office. And as we go throughout the season, we're gonna keep just staying in process and keep trying to get better. That's the front runner for MVP of the National Football League, Patrick Showtime Mahomes. Thanks so much for joining us here where to get out of here pretty quick, but we will try to sneak it a few more phone calls. You want to jump in five seven six seven six ten aero head pry dotcoms, Pete Sweeney. Former chief linebacker and president of the Baker Mayfield fan club. Sean Barbara's in house, by the way. Remember your super partly pick. You had going on. The home teams. Have you do not great? You lost a couple ten. Early was the Steelers ravens game. That's a rivalry been tough. It was it was it was called long shot. You know, that's what they call Baker Mayfield. Do we have do we have this the pre which which Barbara's predictions? Do we have here is this is his two predictions on the guy go both of them is to predictions. He made on the chiefs game. Okay. I think we clarified one of them. He was talking time of possession. You plenty said thirty five possession that was time of possession. We score. Sean tries to sneak in a few things like players that don't play and fantasy to get them bounced Sean Barbara's sneaky man over unders was ten out of thirteen puts me at seventy seventy six correct. I love him today. Love what a guy who's not about stats is all about stats zero point seven six, man. Let's Jason is up. Listening to us in Denver. What's up Jason? Hey, fellas. Hey, fellas I say, I time caller and longtime pride poster and. This team is different. I mean, you're we lose the game. We weren't supposed to you know, against the team that we should be in. This game was never in contention. And that's pretty. Pretty right there. You know experience. It's pretty bad feeling. So it's gonna leave it there. But it's it's new long beleaguered fans, and it's got to feel good, man. Thank you so much for your good. Did you hear it's red? I'd like the term rat needs to come back. It's back baby. We need to bring RAD back. I'm totally down with that. There. I don't know. How many see what's weird to say? This you guys tell me if you agree if you look at the chief schedule pick out the losses the rest of the way out. We're not gonna play this game. No. But I'm just saying he mentioned games that they normally wouldn't win right or close games that just wouldn't go their way cards. They should win. Rams tossup at raiders win home against the ravens probably a win. Do you feel good about going up against Joe flacco? Yes. At home against the chargers. Interesting game. Maybe you go to Seattle three three interesting games that are left at this point. Because I mean ravens where early on the season. It seemed like, but now John Harbaugh you see is getting question as to whether or not he's on the hot seat. So I think they're starting implode. But it's the Rams the chargers and the Seahawks. The raiders should be wins. That team is one of the biggest jokes we've seen. I think in the past what ten years cardinals should be a win. They're not a good football team raven should be a win. Yes. You're looking at three more games where you won't. So if you count that and it's hard to just assume this, but if you count for their eight one that would be one two three four dishes winds, you're already at twelve and one of the rest of them go. I mean, I I should say not calling for Bob Sutton's head or Andy Reed's head if they lose in Mexico City and Seattle, I'm not mad. That's still thirteen and three if they win all the other ball games because I don't think unlike previously. I don't think there's games you're supposed to lose. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that would be the best win output by read in chiefs history or his chiefs history. I think it'd be thirteen James up in Casey what's up James? Well, I was just calling the defense of the cheese. Yeah. They're they're minus there, but it going against the Rams. I think that game's gonna come down. And the Rams game is whoever has the ball last because both of these offense are excellent. So I believe it's gonna come down like the New England day. Whoever has the ball last is gonna win the gate. Taught about thank you for the phone call Mike, I just thought of this. But as a chief span, I think when you're talking about final record for the year you on anything with thirteen and three was that expected two thousand three thirteen and three. Sore spot. Yeah. I think a lot of fans rather twelve and four thirteen and three again this postseason. I think they'd like to be thirteen and three disagree 'cause there's a good shape. Excellent thirteen and three not new Englanders not thirteen go right onto the Super Bowl my home. She just take care of this. They should just go in fourteen into last call up. It's brought to you by Lucas wine and spirits, and it is under in olathe hunter, you get last. Call brother. I'm just I'm ecstatic about Patty Mahomes, and how you're never out of a dry with him. 'cause back in all the other seasons. I've watched when we had a dog or whatever we it was the more lies until the driver with Patty. You're never out of it. And it's so exciting to watch him every single office. He's right. And that phone call hunter hunter was last call last call is brought to you by Lucas wine and spirits superstore with their newest location now open just west of liberty at one fifty two and Flint lock near best buy. I mean, it wasn't so much. What Mahomes did on third and twenty net first half. But it was what Spencer where did on that third in twenty in the first half. But he's right. I mean there are plays where it's like well there should be over. And and it's not we barely even talked about Spencer ware and just how he's back and come into his own. He looks like an Rb one out there. I tweeted during the game. Maybe he belongs another team. So we could start Sean you disagree with me on this really that it could be a starter. But he's playing like it at least, you know, the past. Few games. And man, I it there's only one football. These guys are so talented, and there's a lot of options on this team. That'd be number one options across the National Football League. And it's a cool thing if your teeth it really is. Upper-echelon players all over you got to watch the way you misquote me. You know, what I'm saying me and spent the way on a good we have good Mojo going on. I'm a big supporter of. Yes. Low which is his clothing line. And so my statement during the game about him being a Ardy one. They are be one is I don't think another team would trade or assume him as far as a free agent contract as an Rb one. He doesn't have the talent -bility to be an Rb one. But you have to have you have to have a a perceived value for another team to see you fit into their backfield as Rb one. So we will we'll find out as a free agent. He'll be free. She's got a lot of other priorities to take care of as far as free agency. So he'll be somebody this this season's going to do with this. I like show he's been productive. And being able to go out and continue to play. I like wear fitting into a one eight one b situation. Like, Royce Freeman Philip winds in Denver. I said that during the game. I don't necessarily know if he's a true number one like you would girly or hunt. But definitely like that one a one a b type of deal we learned to chiefs kind of play as you would expect them to I walked in this game thinking that they'd win thirty five to twenty one. They won thirty seven twenty one. They handle bad teams. The defence still has some something left to be desired, but they win the games are supposed to now. It's can the win. The games were not that. Sure of Sean, would you learn today in the chiefs win over the Browns. I learned today the pet Mahomes who thought he was from his first day of training camp without thought he was from a year ago into the season thinking that this offense was going to be thirty five plus points a game. And the same reason why no Baker Mayfield. Just another guy. He's a j just another guy if if that past isn't pig Elson another guy throws for three bills in three scores. If that past isn't picked off could get his post game the Baker Mayfield game. It you start this music on purpose. Chris we would have to end this fight. Again. I'm sick of it. So I can't wait till later. Text and Sean, hey, guys. Thanks so much. Do it again next week? We will see everybody. Hot cardinals game. Early. Can't wait producer. Chris Ben who could up all of our highlights for us for Pete sweetie and for showing Barbara and for Baker Mayfield wicked. Thanks so much. Chiefs way have a good week. Seven street casino ill stay show on six ten. Sports radio. 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AP Radio - Who will the Chiefs play?

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AP Radio - Who will the Chiefs play?

"L had pride radio on six ten sports radio. Here your hosts editor in chief at Arrowhead pride dot com. Pete Sweeney and former chiefs linebacker Shawn barber. You hear the drums? You know, what that means time once again for your favorite our the week? That's our tried radio. Pete Sweeney here editor in chief of Arab pride dot com and cross from the analysts the former tenure NFL linebacker, Sean. Barb. Yes, sir. Julio Sanchez behind the glass, Sean we've been doing fill in work. It feels like the past couple of weeks. We're kind of backed her own music. Our own jam feels good when I heard the drums, I kind of amend it started to get chill bumps, you know, saying the butterflies going stomach. That's good. State for you. It's like I say to get back to us show doing our style. Sean the one question on the minds of chiefs fans right now is who in the hell is this team? Good appoint we're going to talk about that before we do. Tell me something good. Some good is the new year brings a lot of cheer, positively. If you man setting right for the new year, get it, right? Whatever you start out on. Let's let this year two thousand nineteen be a year finishing finish. What you start this year? And you are you driving some hints right now to the Kansas City Chiefs. Hey, man, whoever's listening, I don't care is the chiefs of is this the mom pop guide to church guy to seven eleven to q t piggly-wiggly wherever you are. If you start something issue. Make sure you finish it have attitude and point of view of being a strong finish this year. I think it was Tuesday New Year's day. Sean said that he was trying to lose a little bit of weight. Stood up the whole show. You return today? Standing up again, but ideas thought to show what a nice slice of debt. Cheesecake from cheesecake factory. Not gonna help. Hayes is a is a process getting down from to thirty five to fifteen gonna be a process. But by what do you say about Ballantine's? They are we say about in the March. Let's make the end of March. I need a couple more. Let's go April Fools day. April's, April flus fool, and you're either in shape or not. That's right. Don't fool yourself. You can lie to the tax person. Lots your wife loud to whoever you want to. But don't lie to yourself. Hello to you the fans. Welcome chew the Kansas City Chiefs by week you've earned it. You haven't had a first seed Watson's nineteen ninety seven here you are. Now, you get to watch the wild card weekend in peace. The one question on everybody's mind mentioned a little bit earlier was who will the Kansas City. Chiefs play at set the scene for what has to happen here in the AFC the colts. Visit the Texans Saturday at three thirty five pm, man. They just put the Texans in the first game every single year. The colts win that game. That is your oppose. -ment for the divisional round if the Texans win you get the winner of the chargers and the raven Sunday at twelve five PM. So you'll be watching the game on Saturday. I'm sure it'd be watching the game on Sunday. I'm sure we could know Saturday, we could know Sunday, here's Tarez paler on who the chiefs will play. I'm thinking coastal with their game game pick, you know, ravens actually slow on. I think you know, between those two teams funny thing is that no matter who to say the playoffs. I think you little bit of consternation. I don't feel like this would particularly like, oh, yeah. Let's give me those guys look at the railroad can run the football on you. And that's something that she's fans probably pretty scared of the center and the way lost the playoffs in the past. And the colts age look. Here's the thing with Indianapolis Colts. If they come in here, right? If they come in here, I think there's a pretty good chance that she got hard time stopping because their quarterbacks really really good. And what's the one thing? She can't do Russ to pass. Right. Well, guess what the colts do really will tech the passer, they'd a few sachse football. So kind of kind of doesn't really matter game. No matter who that she's faking the playoffs. Either the visit around AFC checks to play really well to win the match coming up. I think the by will help them. I think that's a good thing. But you know, no matter what Bob and the defense to show up to res- pallor now national NFL writer for Yahoo sports has paler show and six cents sports radio. Former beat writer with the Kansas City star. He knows what he's talking about. That's his opinion. We had some opinions and our head pride dot. Tom deputy editor John Dixon put together some numbers today. Some ELO ratings percentage on this thing in its simplest. If you're looking for a percentage on who's the most likely number wise to play the Kansas City Chiefs because one thing has to happen for one team and chew things have to happen for a team like the Baltimore Ravens like the Los Angeles. Chargers. Your number one team right now as you're probably gonna play the colts forty four percent chance. Indianapolis Colts thirty four percent chance. Baltimore Ravens twenty two percent, chance loss Angeles chargers. But it's it's up to any religion. He don't care. We know our work clearly as done. I've been through this a couple times. Support. And how we handle this next next week will work some of the week. And we'll. Take days off to heal up and and ourselves, right? But we will continue. To work for whoever lever we play, and you don't sit there and wish whoever we play. We'll be ready for and go through the process of getting herself ready for that team. So Sean, I think I know what you're going to say here. But if you had to pick someone who you want that sheafs to play who's who do that. I wanna play the challenges. Oh, you pick somebody. I didn't think that was coming. I wanna play the why is that? Because that's the team just fresh off my mind, we was up fourteen points going into fourth quarter. Somehow, someway, we let them come back in and still victory way hero here on the two point conversion into the game. And I think that's the game is fresh in our mind as a team and as a team wants a little bit. You know, you you want to have a little chip on your show. You wanna find a way to another last play ain't no coverage? Like, no, come hang no covers like, no coverage. But you wanna find a way to create at age. Thank that, the division rivalry between charges in the chiefs. Br. Rings that excitement at era brings that brings real I disagree. And here's why I look at the Los Angeles chargers. And I look at the Baltimore Ravens. And these are two teams that. Have some belief here? I think toward the end of the season and their two teams in that have come into Arrowhead stadium. And either have one looking at you L HR's or should have won and his pissed about it. And that's the Baltimore Ravens. I mean, you think about the fourth of nine the fourth and three that had to be converted by Patrick Mahomes. He did it. Baltimore Ravens didn't get that win. I now look at the laws. I look at the Indianapolis Colts. They haven't seen Patrick Mahomes. They haven't experienced yet as we've seen in the secondary. Some of these guys throwing their arms up in the air. Because this guy just threw a no look pass on you. I think that in mind, it's more likely for a guy like Patrick Mahomes, who is the MVP of the National Football League to break your spirits because you just haven't been there. Whereas the ravens and the charges state. They know they know Mahomes gonna have some of those plays. But if they keep playing they'll be in the game at the end. So I like the colts coming I know there's a lot of history there. And I mean that that's something you can look at a positive to. Okay. The colts come in you beat them. You get over that. You know point taken will will serve that was a meal served best warm. I appreciate it like cheesecake before the she's very cold. It was very it. Was it was so taste about? I can't even know what type it was. It was like a care praline pecan the light somebody that, you know, so many amazing choices. But if you asked me for my personal choice, I want to get those charges back in the building as soon as possible funding. You may anyway, you may get the good I send the chargers. Yeah. I mean at the end of the day, I I can't Ness boil alert by want to tell you. I'm gonna thanks in doubt. But I think we don't get the best of of both of those teams one way or another. I mentioned MVP candidate right now, Patrick Mahomes. He should be the MVP of the National Football League. You still have some smart football people out there. Breer Colin cowherd of sports, saying lis-. It's got to go to somebody else coward. He's been push. Breeze for the past few weeks. He's now changed over the Andrew luck. Because the numbers aren't even close fifty touchdowns and five thousand yards. It's really hard to argue with. But our boy former old friend, Nick right really put him in his place yesterday your guy Mahomes. I got I got pass rushers. I got Chris Jones. I got Justin Houston. I got the fastest receiver. I got the best tight end. I've got a great left tackle. I've got Andy Reid. Your guy gets more help than my guy. Okay. All right. So I did you mentioned all these great chiefs defenders which have led them to the thirty second ranked defense and football. You're right. This chiefs defense has carried them again in their four losses this year. They've averaged thirty nine points per game, Colin sometimes things aren't complicated fifty downs five thousand yards. Lux had a great year. He's got thirty nine touchdowns. He has been sacked eight times in the last ten weeks of football Mahomes did. This year is one of the three greatest quarterbacking seasons ever seven Brady 2013 manning twenty eighteen Mahomes and be like, oh, well, it's the weapons it's Tyree killing Travis Kelsey, okay? Take those touchdowns out the hill and Kelsey touchdowns out. He'd have twenty eight touchdown passes on the year. Your long lost brother. Tom Brady has twenty nine total. Like, let's let's not over think this. It's the number one seed the third highest scoring team in the history of football fifty touchdowns five thousand yards. If anyone else wins the MVP, they should stop giving the award out. It should be unanimous. Breeze. Had a nice season Brees has thirty two touchdowns on the year, Mahomes has thirty one on the road. This is silliness. And you're right. Like the amazing weapons like DeMarcus Robinson who caught the fiftieth. Touchdown. Sammy Watkins been a no show Kareem hunt. Got caught the defense is terrible. They're twelve and four in the one seed. Fox Sports network and as former sixteen sports radio, Nick, right, talk and cheese men. No, one talks cheese like Nick, right? And they really had to think right after right after that segment that Colin coward. They buried him. They very shortly after that. Yeah. Nick, put them in place. Right. I think I mean, but he spoke with fakes everybody else. Who's speaking about anything besides pet, Mahomes, speaking with a motion or some it's historic value any bring in all these these other issues about hey, who has you know, what targets they have? And who's on? This is not about two teammates is all about the performance of the GATT. Throwing the ball quarterback the quarterback. He's the best one wanna go to a different position understand that. But no player on the field has been dominant is valuable as Mahone. Everybody's gonna have a hot take once in a while. But at least at least back it up. That's my thing. I mean, I wasn't too popular couple of weeks back when I had an Eric berry take I told you why I had and there was actual reason belief if you're out there, and you're pushing for someone. Other than Patrick Mahomes to win this MVP award. Should it be talking football? You might as well. Just go home. Oh, okay. All her is acting like he s Mahomes to the dance Mahomes said, no. And so now he's choosing b or c and then he's got I didn't even want to go in homes in the first place. I didn't I didn't even want. But you asked to you asked her to go banal now because he said no to me. I don't I didn't. I didn't wanna go our joking. Anyway, that's the kind of rationale Mr. Cowher has on the MVP award Patrick Mahomes. A big reason for the chief success this year probably moving forward when you have success. Like Andy Reid has since he got here in twenty thirteen people are gonna start wanting your assistance, Eric the enemy is a hot name to be a coaching or head coach here in the NFL. We'll get into where he could go. That's next. Our bride radio bringing you to seven o'clock Bruce Weber show. Pete sweeney. Shawn barber got you until then. And I wanna start this next segment out by talking about chiefs offensive coordinator Eric band me first year as offense coordinator and expected that he's getting all the attention. He has given Doug. Peterson leaves the chiefs goes in Windsor ball. Matt Nagy partners would Mitch Trubisky franchise makes a deal for really really good defensive player. Thank you. His teams in the mix for this year Super Bowl. The enemy interviews with near jets. Miami dolphins. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Cincinnati Bengals turned down. The arizona. Cardinals says I don't need the cardinals interview why not a got a division round game to prepare for be you just let your head coach go after one year. I don't need that in my life. Be enemies a positive guy doesn't need that negatively. Interesting segment on good morning football. That's more Ning. You've seen the website linked in you get to put your resume in to be whatever it is. You wanna be your qualifications your former jobs reccomendation, so good morning football segment called coached and our guy Peter Schrager going to bat for the enemy interesting words here sugar, Eric Yemi, very promising very exciting. Peter about Eric Bana me, let's look at his coach intake real quick Eric Bana as the offensive coordinator, the Kansas City Chiefs, and the know the last two of coordinators and the Kansas City Chiefs are playing a game Peterson and Matt Nagy is a nice little chain right there. If you look at references his quarterback, Patrick Mahomes. It's his head coach Andy Reid and it's Adrian Peterson ran for about a billion yards when the enemy was running backs. Coach. I remember that billion Vikings. What's task irk me enemy that he's an African American ofensive mind say that everyone looks at these different off? Wonder Kim's these whiz kids, they all seem to be cook Asian guys. Eric enemy is the only one that was on the offense of side of the ball. That is a person of color say it because it does matter because the league would love to see an initiative where they're people of color, it all different positions in the come from the office to sign the bowl in the spirit and the legacy of Dennis Green or so many others. Jim cold will right now. Volleys candidates. You're seeing a lot of guys don't look like Eric the enemy on the offensive side of the ball. This is testament to that. Yes. They wanna see as many people also in the different positions and the different backgrounds. Ofensive mastermind Eric the enemy played in the in the NFL for nine years. Kyle said the sleeping with the enemy joke, yet, a nickname. Chris Berman Mazar go from his best nickname of all time. I think I really do is a great rate Bengals running back was Jeff Blake throwing the pitch put other teams as well. He has already interviewed for the jets buccaneers while dolphins. And cardinals our next you buy and all that from Peter trigger. By most of he's got a lot of good things got going form. Definitely definitely mentioned the elephant in the room. Is that Airbnb is a brother he's black coach. I don't know about African American Caucasian all these other titles. But now, he's black coach his great offense a mind. He did do, you know, I I don't I don't think he did miracles with age Pete agent piece in his good back. But when he came here to Kansas City, he was given some some some running backs in the room that did no one ever know about sometimes. And he was he took he took a lead it developing. The Jamaal Charles Spence wears, you know, taking hunt from where he was drafted in development to be a leading leading rusher. As far as in a year for the NFL taking taking running backs in creatine age on his shoulder and having them run with the passion is not something that you look on every team in NFL and that every team possesses that coach be enemy has been able to. Especially that running back room kind of take lemons and make lemonade sometime now that the guys are sour. They're not good players. But I don't think anybody would expect type of production. We've seen we've seen the running back position over the last couple of years here without Coachman even blessed with some good players to even besides AP. Like you came in here and cream hunt was here. Jamaal Charles psych to me, you gotta have good players. Not to say that he's not a great coach. But he's also had some fantastic town. These are the words from Jay Glazer of the Atlantic. I love Eric enemy really connects with players. Well, and he's learned under Andy Reid for a long time. Now, he's very creative and instantly energizes a room. And I don't think he would lose himself. That's happened. Sometimes two guys when they get a head coaching job. They somehow lose themselves or lose the ability to pull the trigger on something or become someone. They're not he doesn't see that happening with Eric. You're in the training camp room coaches room as an intern a fellow this this. Last this past summer. What did you make of the enemy behind closed doors? What did you see from him when he dealt would guys and getting his hands on some of these players? I I saw the same thing in any fan who came up to training camp heard Phil coach me enemy on a daily basis. He didn't mix words he led his emotion show. If a player, you know, backfield guy jumped went wrong way wasn't prepared into the huddle. He made it known early often his expectation of guys being ready to go and go at how level coming out that bag field overall when he took possession of the offense that just got got spread to the entire offense that same emotion passion. He used to hold that standard of professionally hill to his only has running back room. Now got expanded to cover the entire offense of set. So this is one of the most loud and rowdy often sides of the ball is from coaching stamp when ever seen as far as training camp. But I knew you'd be back from the barber shop. I mean, we both get here because purple barbershop nothing to want because everybody's here when the team he's like the the barb of the pros, and it comes to Kansas City, but even hearing be enemies, the Meena and speaking to individuals young men in the barber shop the way he carries himself is always been one of influence. He doesn't he doesn't let the wind blow him. It doesn't shake his character. His demeanor his integrity. He stands pack. He has a great foundation. And I think he he expresses that to two men in expect him to step up to to emulate that same type of integrity so shout out to coach Vienna me as far as his character and his demeanor. I look at these teams that are interested in interviewing him here. Again, he said no to the cardinals New York Jets. Miami dolphins. Tampa Bay bucks. Cincinnati bengals. Is there really good fit? Among those teams. I don't think those are any good situations. Not to say there are there are a lot of situations out there where a team to through their head coach and they're necessarily. A good place. But those seem especially bad now. I mean, you look at a jets and the dolphins and both of those teams play to of course, you you gotta go with New England gotta go go play play New England twice. So that's never a great situation have to play Bill Belichick twice every year. You talk about above the bucks. And you gotta you know, you've got got the saints. You know, get a high quality saints team. Carolina Panthers kinda hit hit a little falcons hit a little. So then you got a chance there to be, you know, fighting for number one number two every year. I say Cincinnati bangles is the team, you know, him being able to put impact imprint on Joe mixing Giovanni Bernard. He's he's definitely somebody quarterback position. But I think immediately he can he can get together with a defense coordinator, go there change some things around. I think that team is Bill to win a lot quicker than the other three teams. I read an article today would from Cincinnati dot com, Paul Darty, and he was saying the Bengals are in such a need. Need for a complete clean palate? A complete restart. I tend to think okay. Bannon's played there before before years nine year NFL career as a running back that could be a fit because he's a known name and their team that probably is going to be open to. All right. You make this your own. I think I think that's always nice as head coach were instead sometimes these guys walking position where they don't necessarily can't necessarily pick their own coaching staff so on and so forth. If he does go, and I know this is the the question that a lot of chiefs fans have in their mind is Mike calf ready to go and step minutes of coordinator, in your opinion. I think so Mike is always been a heads agai you. I mean as a coach you always prepare yourself the next the next step. No, one is no one's land at bay, and you know, coat you don't coach hands in your pockets waiting for the next guy to do something. I mean, everybody is coaching waiting for the next step up in their career. So I think Casco has probably been coaching with. The anticipation of one day becoming a ac- office one day becoming a head coach. I think if you're not trying to, you know, push yourself strapped to something greater than you become a little bit stagnant. And so I don't I don't think I think one thing Andy is always pushed his offense of coordinators, and his coaches and coaching staff is the continue to your skills continue to push for it and be greater tomorrow was yesterday. I like Africa here because the key to this whole chiefs thing right now two words name if you want if you will Patrick Mahomes he's been with Mahomes since he's been here if calf becomes offensive coordinator chiefs have another successful year next year. That's gonna be a guy who could barely changed the game because he's been side by side with Mahomes the entire time. And if Mahomes is playing well as MVP caliber year next year, that's not a tandem you necessarily gonna wanna break up. Again, that's distant in the future. We're talking about the enemy. This year remains to be seen. What happens as the chiefs are in this playoff push a couple upset that he's interviewing during the play. Off push look ES look out for himself in his own career too. So you hope that he may be an opportunity here as well. I think the chiefs have the personnel to replace them if need be when we come back your chance to win a thousand of thirty stay with. Pete's Shawn barber Arrowhead pride radio gonna get somebody injured chiefs the second before we do. It's your chance to win a thousand on the thirties in the national cash. Contest. Text the word Gulf two seven to eight one that's golf G O L F golf golf golf once you've stock and a chance to win a thousand on thirties. Only one station Kansas City gives you both weekdays from seven to seven your next chance to win is tomorrow at seven thirty AM fest. Go in the morning. John the chiefs have the number one seat, and they also have a couple of key injured players, which makes that a very good thing. I'm talking about safety. Eric berry missed the final game of the season with his phantom. He'll Sammy Watkins has been out for a little bit with the foot. Learn to NATO diff- who had the leg. Chiefs could get all three back. Here was Andy Reid on whether those guys are making progress throughout the next week year. Just how that how that goes. I can't really tiny anything right now. These are the ones you mentioned are day-to-day situation. So let's just see out how plays out and and how the guys guys do some of Moby through the following week too. So. As far as the game, we go. So just at the C out on those Andy, I love you, man. But when you say the words day day, it's like a knife into my gut just anything, but day-to-day Eric berry Sammy Watkins L DT. Let's say for the sake of argument, you can only get one back who you take. You know, interesting thing about that question is it changes, depending on what the match is if I'm going against the colts and Andrew luck. I definitely want. Eric berry, I want Eric berry to be back to help kind of lemonade and try to deter Andrew looks vision. Spar spreading Bala would feel if we're going against the ravens. I kind of like a Sammy Watkins back against that number one defense having Sammy Watkins as a offense threat to to to to make era Guido have look both sides of the feel and that just focused on the side cheetahs on. And then if it's end up being the charges, actually like LTD L D is is you know, he brings a different pace of athlete to the offense line, and when you're going against Bosa Ingram, those guys become an issue. Full-throttle every snap is always good have an extra lamb in hosting your lineup. So depending on who we plan against my my choice changes. It type of guy must have cheated on the playground. You go into the playground. You got a game set up. You gotta kick ball game. You got some boosting your shoes or something? I mean, I ask you a question you give me three answers and. If I had to pick one right now, I'm okay with the offensive line. I think Laura Dern Ataur D would be an upgrade for sure. So mara. The offense of line is good enough. Eric berry the first game. He made a difference in his thirty snaps. The second game with the sixty nine snaps didn't feel as big, and I have all these film junkies. I'm talking about my guys included Arrowhead pride nerd squad. Tell me how important Sammy Watkins is the offense hasn't felt the same since you left. I'll give you that. But also in that same time spaniels Kareem hunt. So it's hard to really pinpoint anybody, but I'll buy I would say if you had to have one back, I'll take Sammy Watkins back. So maybe I could finally see how this guy that you had to pay all money this off season. How much he mattered on this team? I'll take Sammy back Barbara question for you a side from this. Did you have a chance to listen to show in Verner earlier to no no show Nova has ever since we replace them for over the holidays made the hashtag no-show Noverre. And you just haven't listened to that makes sense. That makes sense. I. Understand why. But I do wanna play cut for you about a plan. They have for this postseason. I want us for the tournament. That's all Steve wears us show when Verne that show inverted listeners the hill with the hockey beard. Let's just go straight mustaches for this cheese playoff run starting tomorrow. Let's come in straight stashes nothing wrapped around no beard, immense shoot. Oh, phoo Manchu just eighties. Baseball players staff still comes here. Like, Dave Bergman. I wanna look like Kevin Mitchell from the eighties just straight stat. They went on went on to call me and ask me if we would get era had pride behind this. I'm kinda up in the air. Do we wanna push the hashtag show your stash movement for the playoffs? Are you are you into wearing a mustache, I'm fresh out the barbershop today. So I'm game for anything for the next month. I'm gonna what you have right now. Right. You have the you have the upper lip going. But you do also have a little little island down here to islands underneath. So you would you would say goodbye to those for the playoff go straight stash. Most definitely, you know, a problem with me is it took me forty three years to grow this little bit of Alan, you, call it the bottom Chen forty-three. Well, all forty three I saved up a little bit. But it don't go much. I'm here telling me the next time it could get those islands back when you're what eighty six. Yeah. So it's a big commitment for it's a it's a it's a large commitment. And I would say that we, you know, I'm ready to go hours. Go all in you know, what I'm saying? So if we're gonna do this, then we need to we need to put some side wages with Ron and show. I mean, we're on the show in Bern about like, maybe the loser. You know, we start picking playoff games to lose. Gotta like gotta like wax their beard or something like that. You know on Facebook live or something like that Verne seemed a little bit apprehensive. With with the mustache e but show as you could imagine was all it at the end of the day. I'm married, man. My wife, she stuck with me y'all y'all still trying to get married still dating. I mean, Ron shot that he's he started down to. So, you know, down guys man, we ain't gonna lose, you know, with the stash state my wife. She still gonna love me. My I asked my girlfriend was okay. If I participated in the hashtag show, your stash, she said that it's yellow which the kids say sometimes nowadays, you can only live once and into rock on. So I think I'm good to go to I think tomorrow ten thirty AM when we appear and show in maybe we'll go ahead and shave it. Now, it's pretty jazzed about your MRs. If careful I had no idea what that meant like like out here, I'm helping you out here, man. So yes, we will be on show and Vern tomorrow. And so I guess at ten thirty. We're gonna tell these guys were down to do it. And we'll help push the movement on Twitter and Facebook, and guess what our website, right? Do I need to bring in the was that little earned the three bladed? This is going to be lot for me. I mean, you kinda already have a moustache. This is this is a big change for me. The Norelco don't need to bring him the Norelco into into into the studio say bring a any kind of tool that you have to get this done that you can you were mentioned in the UN and curate before. Oh, I'm definitely gonna carry in studio. Everybody all you, all you DJ's. He listens and people in Kojo's day. We'll be occurred in the studio with the very very very soon. Someone who I also question I at how much the mustache hair. He can potentially grow is the Arrowhead pride lead film. And draft. Analyst Ken Swanson, Ken. I'm not sure if you just heard we're talking about are you into for the NFL playoffs going with the hashtag show, your stash movement. I think about it Peter now, I really can't grow facial hair. So if I get rid of all the stuff on my chain and all that like it's gonna look terrible. Like, I I don't really think. My facial hair was good as it does. But if I go just stash I am. I'm like get fired from my day job. Isn't it isn't it isn't a championship? I mean, I probably. Free time to go to the parade wouldn't have to you know, have anything to worry about for the parade. And all that. So I guess it's not a terrible idea. Part of the process was the chiefs at Arrowhead stadium in the playoffs haven't been great. But they've never lost a home playoff game. Where everyone in the building at a moustache. I love it. I I, you know, what encourage you, ladies, you know, don't don't lack that up lit and Email. Maybe maybe put some Rogaine on your face trying to support the movement. I could see aside just the is can't big part of this movement. Of course is the quarterback Patrick Mahomes. You watch more Patrick Mahomes film out of our stadium. I say than than anyone in the city you reviewed as week seventeen a game you've been reviewing them all year. I know you feel passionately about this. Who's the MVP of the national football IQ? No, it's Patrick Mahomes, ninety close I think this whole thing is just absurd that we're trying to make this thing. Trying to add some drama to we got people out here saying, you know, QB wins and all this stuff. Oh, completion percentage of seventy four percent. Whatever look how look at look at target. What could be look at the throws Patrick Mahomes making. He's not dumping it into flat own game. He's not, you know, he doesn't have you know, a guy like Alvin Kamara to lead on in the past and gave and just go angle. Route flat routes will swing routes. Let them go. Do think Patrick Mahomes has thirty two touchdowns of ten yards or more on the season recess. Thirty two total just shut down. It's over Agic Mahomes. Your MVP don't come with anything. We will go full full UCS deploying Patrick Mahomes, the MVP if he does not win. I I wanna get into a little bit. More of this raiders game. Because I I was thinking since the last raiders game the offense. And I think you'd agree has seemed a little bit out of sync. Did you see signs in this last game both with Mahomes and really the offense as a whole that they're getting back to what made them so successful toward the beginning of the season. Not not too many. I think you know, there's some positive indicators with some of the explosive plays. I think you know, that good. But overall, I still think that there there's still a little bit off. And there's still some struggled. He talk about you know, you look at the second touchdown touchdown got fifty yards or that that that got fifty for a home versus second down were fruitless, and they were sitting on third and ten and they had you know, they they create an explosive play out of structure to make it work. The thing that's kind of that kind of happening right now, though is yeah, they're not they're not the same kind of unit. Sydney walk and not being there is is clearly an issue Laurent, you eight party would help. But Pat, Mahomes still delivering instill rising to the occasion on on big third down. That's part of the reason that they'd still put some, you know. A good amount of points on the board consistently. So, you know, they need to clean stuff up. Hopefully, they get healthy. And if that's the case he might see in kind of return to some of the stuff we saw in the first half of he now, I wanna get to this weekend. I know that she's aren't playing, but when it comes to match these three potential teams who do you like them? You know, I think it's the colts. I I would rather that she's play the if that's if that's what we're kinda rooting for in looks nominal. The offense is done. Some really good things. I don't think that defensive unit can can hold up for the colts and shoot up. They don't really have a ton of talent. They've played above their heads all season. I think that she's you know, and only I don't think the colts are too strong on the interior line right now because Ryan Kozo obviously quitting Nelson's been phenomenal. But you know, I think they've lost the they've kind of, you know, miss their starting center recently too. So that could team I, you know, I think that team I'd rather play the least talented team left in the dance. And give me my give me my chances. There would be on a believe it would be I guess it on Saturday. So they would have a full week. So that's that's the team. I'm looking at right now that is the voice of the Arrowhead pride lead film and draft analyst can s- once you catch his. Fabulous work, mainly Mahomes specific work at Arrowhead, pride dot com. Kent, thanks for joining us. Canton's? Also, the leader of the Arrowhead pride nerd squad along with Matt lane who usually comes on seven thirty with think at night on Tuesdays Craig stout defensive film analyst eight pm on Wednesdays. Kint slot usually big at night, six thirty on Thursdays. But Eric pride radio taken over Bank at night tonight leading up to the Bruce Weber show coming up promptly at seven. But before we do that will read your tweets. Get out at Arrowhead pride Twitter dot com slash or had Brad. That's. All right, bride radio chief Ferron pride dot com. Pete Sweeney shutting down with player. Shawn barber this from the protein house with a purpose text line. I'm just imagining another chiefs playoff letdown at a bunch of angry fans would mustaches in the crap scared site. That's a good one kind of feel like you second guess in his mustache thing. I feel like I almost got talked out of it in the break. I I don't know what to think about sleep on it, you know, and see what happens tomorrow. But before we do all that we go from text to tweets what you guys talking about on the twitch. Janson Leach who do the chiefs wanna see in the playoffs? Sean said the chargers. Icy the colts, it seems like there's disagreement among the masses, it's tough. It's pick your poison. These teams are all pretty similar. I find I find all the teams the similar. I think you just wait to see you got you play sheep's out of one everybody else's went as whoever steps up come era. Head going get your butt whip. So I'm cool with anybody right now. So Mason gate Simone. Do you think that the chiefs defense steps it up for the playoffs? Of course. They've they've shown the ability to put some other guys in there and get things going to pass rushes at all time high sex turnovers. That's how you you play late in the season. So we we plan to win. I don't know. What tells you that? I think at this point you just hope that it's passable. And that Pat is Pat and the offense kind of gets back to where it was earlier in the season. If you get some of these guys back, and you win games like you did in the forties, and you hope that the chiefs. Defense keeps it under thirty five the Casey wolf the defense have more communication this game than any game this year fantastic, Oakland, I will say that the Oakland came in a little undermanned a little unmotivated. But it did it thing which you losing team. Keep them losing loses. They think about winning winners think about winning. Kevin says when the chiefs have lost the past few years as always the play the six six with you. The luck fumble touchdown the Mary Mario touchdown to himself. If the chiefs lose again, what will be the one play everybody remembers kit. I'm thinking things like that. If you're a fan does he understand what a positive growth mindset is? You don't think about the negative woulda coulda as you think about what you want to happen. So we're gonna go hand skip them angry old fetus. What is the best reason for Mahomes being the MVP definitely not angry fetus, I think it's fifty touchdowns five thousand yards. I think you pointed the stats and say tell me why not right. But not only the stats. I mean, just I mean some of the throws he's made. No, look the left hand at the row is escaping Boondi. As far as alluding some of the sax and making those long throws down the field, especially for the fiftieth one to the way, he ended it off on the fiftieth. Touchdown was amazing J tip after witnessing and person all three previous colts playoff losses. The no punt game so on and so forth. He wants the colts as the first game. He's their way overdue. He says, I great I think if you are chief's fan you say bring on these colts. Let's get over that home. We all we all got on once in wishes he wants to coats. I'll take the charges. I think the coats, you know, they have fifty chance go going Texans and beaten them. But I definitely think the charge might take here you like this from Chiba wiser everyone scared of facing. The chargers nine turnovers since week fifteen they have given up leagues third-most QB pressures in that time. There was no surprise as they can pull and Casey is beaten them nine at the last ten times most of those without berry, Houston and fort techs. Have you been listening to me I'm wanting I've been begging for the charges since we lost them whatever week. There was like we've had Philip rivers number ever since he became the ribbon. And we ought to cheats Kyi next year. Let's get a defense on the team to hashtag chiefs, some shade a little bit shaded vitro there. But again, you got to also remember it. I think I think the plan was for was for two years. I don't think they maybe at the position they are. But they that's where they are at this point. So you got to see what happens Kyle what's the most effective way to utilize back field with both wear and Williams. I think right now, you know, until where it's percent Williams the guy I mean, he show he can carry the load. He's gonna protect the ball carrier load. He's inciting running back a great hands. You know, going to do his thing. You'll like this, Sean, Sarah. Process hashtag M V path and other your fan of. Matthew, Chris we weren't expected to be where we are this year. But yet we are other AFC teams can't be too excited. Knowing that our offense will be for the most part stay the same. As far as personnel goes. And our defense can't exactly get worse. Speak for yourself. I expected as be here right here. Right now. I've said the chiefs of the number one team in FC all year long. Never never shut. It. Never quit. Never blinked. You don't when you see greatness? You know blink. You know, what you know, what Penn Mahomes can do you know, the defense can do. You don't blink season was over. He was gonna be number one. Having a by just waiting for somebody to come to Arrowhead. I know what the kingdom can do NFC of red. I just I just can't wait for it to happen. H k having a hard time thinking, the ending will be different this time. It will though right? Listen, I don't know how this is going to end, but wipe those tears away you ever watch men in black. They got the little button push that. But you've never had Patrick Mahomes before that is the grand difference maker. You're looking to the blue light until the flashes. Jim Cantrell defensive late that bad or has it really been an experiment of late in order to assure its best for the playoffs. Whatever tweet says the fences go to the next. Because obviously they're trying to dig up something whoever if you think is wrong with the defense. Go up into your closet, look for some skeletons pull out a bone clean, your own backyard out, and then start worrying about the cheese backyard that she's chiefs team is a number one team is not the number one offense and some other number the team is number one right now in the AFC as a team, let's get straight which AFC playoff team. This is from Jared, which AFC playoff team most daunting for the chiefs to play in the divisional round based on style of play schemes and matchup. So you said you wanted the chargers who do not wanna see as not that don't want, but my least favorite match. It would be definitely the Baltimore Ravens. I think we've seen what a run team run quarterback refused. The pass type offense. Does it eliminates pass rush? We have great pass rushers on defense. And that's we we want to turn a ball over on a sec sector quarterbacking in create a turn turn the field. So ravens. Do what we don't want be having to keep the ball away. From pat. I'm with you. I'm a hundred percent with you. I think you gotta have Pat on the field. The ravens how to keep them off last week. Jeff over says in a playoff game. How large of lead to the chiefs need to have to feel a hundred percent safe. He says forty two s two second-half thoughts. What is in? Oh, no comment. Wow. But I'm gonna come one point. That's all we need a win by one point the move on. It only takes one point you win by one you move on create short tomorrow. The chief team that she's station fans go out here and create your next game. Those are your tweets for this week. If you wanna ever get at us Twitter dot com slash era ahead pride shown man says I hit I hit a drums. I get excited. But then I hit a drums again. Get a little say that Shawn Barbara thank you to Julio. Thank you to can't. Thank you for listening. This is our head pride radio. Speed swing Deiter and chief Eric bride dot com. Sean, I'll be back on show in ten thirty AM. 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Don't Call It A Comeback

Highly Questionable

21:49 min | 1 year ago

Don't Call It A Comeback

"How come you're really sweaty? It's great hello and welcome to highly questionable this right here senior writer E._S._p._N.. The magazine She's got the cover story on Baker Mayfield that is making the rounds all around the network meaning cons. What do you like on the show today? This guy told me he woke up feeling dangerous. The afraid Oh no eyelet poppy need grunt to come back. This is the most fascinating team of our lifetime as they've kept things under trout and we don't understand exactly with good firm analytical answers. Here's how it is that they continue to reinvent themselves year after year without their quarterback aging the way other Human Beings Age Rob Gronkowski has kept that man healthy helped him keep his numbers up in a place that Brady is a lot better when Gronk is out there than when he is it but he's lost a ton of weight he hasn't been weightlifting and you are at your own risk. When you're judging the mind of GRONK? There's been a report forty percent chance that he comes back drew. Rosenhaus says he wouldn't be shocked if he came back and to me the smartest solution is Bella. Check is reported to be welcoming coming of this my guess is they could bring it back. At any point for a few games in grunk would appreciate it at a pro rated rate. He's got a lot of options because of his age so they do need him or they need someone because if you look at the Patriots Roster Right now one of the few <unk> holds is at past catcher behind thirty-three-year-old Julian Edelman there's the rookies in ranchos and not a whole lot else they need help but it's an open question how much help gronk would actually give them at this point right because while our last memory of him is is making that amazing catch in the Super Bowl he did have a down season as a receiver in my last memory of him is seeing him in the locker room after the super bowl and he could barely walk which is why I was Kinda relieved when he retired early and rode off into the sunset without destroying throwing all of his body and while cringe a little bit if he comes back even if it helps the team you can make the argument that the Patriots win at the Kansas City chiefs is the most impressive one they have during their entire run. That game was one because the chiefs chiefs new Eric Berry knew everyone knew where the ball was going and Tom Brady just floated it up there and Gronk was there Mr reliable as he likes to say that play is available almost always to Gronk no matter how he's walking because he was walking like that before the game. I'm do Hello Oh Gronkowski. How are you my friend Gronkowski's wrong? Oh it's no forty percent that you're coming back. It is sixty nine percent. Everybody knows okay okay sixty nine not doing that no forty sixty nine we heard you do you believe baking may feel when he says he's blocking out the haters. I'm sorry that look on my face is still from my father's previous joke. That rattled me a little bit at my core Baker. Mayfield is the cover story written by this woman an E._s._p._N.. The magazine he is the most interesting player on the most interesting team. He's got a new kind of personality at a position that can be antiseptic about scrubbing out the personalities and he's here to tell you. I don't care what anyone thinks. I am here to ignore. Everyone in the social media age and be new millennial quarterback that has personality in his willing to make us against them. I'm here for all of this but she reported this story. She could tell you more about him than I can so Baker Mayfield's entire identity is built around on being an underdog. That's how he perceives himself. It's how he wants others to perceive him and some of that entails letting the hate flow through him he has admitted in the past that he take screen shots of negative comments about him he claps back at reporters are just people people online who are mean to him and he continued to clap back. Which is why I don't really believe him when he says he's blocking it out but the tone and tenor of those climax has changed a little bit? It's no longer really about him because he's obviously no longer the underdog after breaking the rookie passing touchdown record but he's clapping backup people who go after his team and his teammates like Odell Beckham Junior that is how he leads an. I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. One of the other things that mean appointed out you should go read that story is the Baker Mayfield as a new kind of quarterback in that he doesn't mind at his age trolling people trolling people organizations. He's not going to respect the same cathedrals that other guys have had to respect. He's going to respect the browns Cathedral Cathedral and only that I don't know what to say. I never read that trash wow he doesn't have time for your magazine. Piece is too old for him. He'd publishing what a strangely range aggressive constantly God really hostile. Do you buy that given run into over the next because of their system we continue to have echoing laughter at the expense of the next they really really lose out on Kevin Durant because their system was that the same as Brooklyn's he chose the step child in Brooklyn because the system was different. Here's Sean Marks. It says he never even talked to Kevin durant before Kevin Durant sign. They're saying it was the system. That was the reason that Kevin Durant chose there. He decided look I. I left the system. I love how you guys play. <hes> you know I see a Hajra guys fly. You would never out of games. You know we could never take you guys lightly. I remember that was one of the first things he said and sign with us. He has mid with all our performance team and you know I could see the look on his face that he he was certainly pleased with with what we have in front of him. I think there are a few reasons why durant ended up going with the nets. He wanted to be a New York. He wanted to play with Kyrie and the Knicks Knicks themselves out of contention and yes. I'm sure that the system did matter. We know that Kevin Durant likes going teams with good systems and that lasts reason by the way is something that makes the N._B._A.. Very happy the fact that at the two biggest stars in agency ended up on the teams that were actually trying to win teams with good cultures and systems that wanted to contend in the playoffs even though everyone knew they weren't going to go all the way that's an argument against tanking and that's a win for the N._B._A.. Yea I want you guys to absorb though after about a decade of N._B._A.. Basketball different than any of the decades before it how odd it is that Kevin Durant could have spent a decade winning in Golden State all he had to do was get along with those was teammates and they could've spent all the time hogging all the titles instead he went about as far away geographically as you can didn't even talk to the G._M.. Before doing it left there the first moment he could leave their demanded that they get a draft. Pick back because the relationship. was frayed over an injury and now says he wants this system over the one twenty minutes away with the New York Knicks. It is fascinating that this guy chose this whimsically flippantly decided to just wreck the warriors and in doing so gave life to the entire league. I don't no no Minna though how that system can be accurately defined right now because none of us know what eighteen with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant looks like I do find interesting however how quickly Kyrie irving went from being hey. I'm not a number two. I'm a number one on and then it took about three months in Boston saying that never mind. I'll go be number two again. I tell you one thing but it turned around and comes back to play basketball career in. We'll have this joy this system there. Will we know system that system you thought paying income reserving will not allow it where Daniels from the guy who had already surface suspension. This is the way that we cover baseball around here. Did chubby guys running angry from the bullpen open to start a fight. We will cover it only then when it makes an appearance. Let's go back nine days. You Got Jake Moore is Nick here in a collision at home plate. Jonathan Lacroix here gets a concussion a broken bone in his face and everyone likes Moore is nick and he apologized profusely he did not intend to do that. That did not stop this from happening last night. When they saw him again he served the suspension and here they aren't a sixty two game and this is the way they solve these things in baseball and usually though they do not solve them that high they solve them lower on the body but let's see what happened here not so he's on first and pool halls starts talking with the Astros Doug because they're not happy how high the ball was thrown so this is an unwritten rule inside of an unwritten ruler? If you break our catchers face we will throw at you and then the other team is mad because the throw was a little too high they would've accepted if it had been lower. This is so stupid. I don't know what to say. We do this every time of course it's of course it's reckless and dangerous to throw oh of baseball and another human being's head and I say this as someone who thought that resnick slide also reckless in dangerous and he deserved to be suspended and I understand why they want to strike back but they need to find an outlet that doesn't potentially Ashley result in a concussion or even worse received guys life now. I don't know what that outlet is. Maybe it's something like if striking him out and the entire team celebrating for a few minutes or doing what N._B._A.. Players do in some tweeting the guy I don't know but you can't be this because this is going to result in something terrible someday coming up next on my sauce T._v.. Show replace Johnny got a twig off set when he was three and from that day on he was hooked all he wanted to do was Gulf Gulf Gulf. He'd be on the links before school after schools all he ever wanted was to go pro and then one day when he was holding his grandson and thinking about his twelve handicap Johnny realized it just might not happen for him but you know what did happen for him. He switch to Geico and saved a bunch of money on car insurance so that was good and so was hanging out with his grandson. Hope slip run on the way how to happy national snake they just the new quest Yonne you give us topics and events we question was an you'll snake day yesterday. We missed it. The manager of the Kalamazoo rollers is getting too big for his Britches. Wow he got Kalamazoo right but growlers wrong. I wasn't expecting that so there's a six year old kid who coaches sort of coaches for Kalamazoo Zoo and he's a manager and he's making a decision here on the mound visit us just like a regular thing is a regular thing in in the minor leagues yes. He's running off bloated sort of Mike Hargrove type of fashion body type. Let's see what we have here in the recent development. Oh Wow period comes coach straight. He did not like the first bridges taking on a questionable call does not like it. You know what you're saying. You're not like God you're not my father. You're not my boss how I was that umpire younger than he is. I was that possible replays taking replays denied us this this ten other practice all Lou Pinella this kid every other school we stopped watching baseball bats at a certain point does that to be insulting to the player's number. Take a dog Mayer Johnson. He's just making up. I learned that you you my way Oh riverina rampart and then again fit on my hand there. Do you question it uni brow. You should really have second thoughts about playing for the Lakers. I father is going to be very conflicted on this story because on the one hand doesn't like Lebron so much but on the other hand he really he loves tacos TACO Tuesday here Lebron's watch anthony. Davis look like one of Lebron's other kids. How do you guys love my t shirt? It's Tuesday somewhere so you know what that means. What are they and not having it? We got new people ever running. Yeah you know what is the big story from the video. What's growing hair line? Oh man he got more here now and it was very dad joking Lebron Zolder now Anthony Davis is looking around saying I waved my four million dollar trade kicker for Taco Tuesdays. Do you see something you because succumbing okay. This is my favorite part of the show we get to the last question. Do you question the most questionable of the questions and it's could have seen this coming. What coming Oh man? That legitimately scared me. What a weird thing? I hope they have a dim pam on there to play again and again the fact that I winced as if that ball was is coming to me and my father just did it again. Does that have an everybody. I think you guys should just play the way we look again and again. In slow motion the horrified faces you should freeze them because all of us flinched in the same way scared word was better than of course he still doesn't know what happened there exactly all of it to people who are very comfortable criticizing athletes on every day eh criticizing hey you you need to stand in front of that guy and be tough. Look at what these people do one video. Why should I believe broadcasts from the Cleveland Hotel in South Beach Miami? I'm to play the game does so dense face on the face that so everybody see oh. No you tell us what to watch on television time we tell you we're intrigued so busy making the old joke that he's got the segment wrong at one thirty A._M.. On the Golf Channel The open championship he'll be going to the bathroom about that time we were talking about the Baker Mayfield story that she wrote about a guy coming in and having a bit of a different attitude in his sport. How about kept guy? Can I interest you in some explaining to you that he doesn't even practice that much just practice before the majors regular tournaments home practice. When have you seen me on T._V.? That's when I play golf dudes a beast he keeps winning he doesn't does it need to practice and he's charming and fun. Meaner you intrigue now before the show we were talking about this and he asked if t Rodriguez was playing and I learned to Chichi Rodriguez reference my father's been making for eight years. Here's around here even though stop playing thirty years ago but oh see see very very true police in that's that's the reason I love Chichi cheeky always practice before every may your turn and he always guy he shot right there. Take a look at that shock puckish Kinda. You could say that although it's less. It tonight on E._S._P._N.. Dodgers Phillies the bryce Harper thing is a little bit difficult to watch. He has got to be awfully lonely. In that batter's box making all that money he's rich to making all that money but starting off office Philadelphia career as a disappointment so yesterday he finally get something done at the end of a Game Janson is not easy to do this off of that was ruled a double. That's it looked like a single and an error and something that feels good for Bryce Harper there you go that hit cost exactly thirteen million dollars meaner you one tree. I actually think this could be a turning point in the season. He was much better last year in the second half of the season. Though it does mean we will no longer be able to trash his contract which would be disappointing Joe so you know those six of his eight years. He's under nine hundred on the O.. P. S. that's concerning the young player but six of eight years under nine hundred on opium poppy. Are you intrigue Ho Si Si very intrigued by the way he earlier in the game earlier in the game. All that's a home run way supposed to dot my father was going to go negative there. Thank the rain delivered. It was also that way. I think my father was just surprised that rise armory struck out he thought he was throwing it through a video of him striking out that didn't work out so well surprise streaming on nat Geo wild out there with Jack Randall Bobby. How would you describe Jack Randall to the audience that I'll tell you? That guy goes places where nobody wants to go chasing the animals. Sometimes he comes across some money. Must whichever real you mean to him that's correct. I don't know why my father said it like that. It was weird. Let's see what we have here from Jack Randall Saito Slaney great wow I've never seen a sleepy great big normally very aggressive S._e.. This one's I K- I haven't seen one bigger than that. Complete loss of teeth in the body is thing is I would almost guarantee he would probably try and bite me getting on. Maybe skyway let the snake wrapped around my hands. It's GonNa be the renew was pay off their more pay me anyway. I think I'm hoping for the faces though I was hoping yesterday's Lizard that were attached to the other guys things I would have liked that I mean are you intrigued. Snake bit him. That's what it's going to be like if you ever meet K. D. Oh wow that's right because you've been mean to 'em Daddy. Are you tatty. What happened there data intriguing C._C.? Very these guys rookie when he comes with snakes he hasn't he hasn't found a big snake yet. You know what I mean. How's how they grow? Chains Slang way. You know those big snakes. You know what I mean.

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OBJ trade details, Eric Berry to Cowboys?, Ed Reed in-studio

First Things First

1:01:15 hr | 2 years ago

OBJ trade details, Eric Berry to Cowboys?, Ed Reed in-studio

"I'm gonna I think Spurs Tuesday morning here, New York City general that's the hall of fame of Chris Carter. Yesterday, and everything. So they I'm okay. Improve from yesterday today. What what got better general disposition? I thought he was very well. Change my expectations for Nick, I dropped them. Mike, okay. A show with two lies this usually wolves corners now today, I would expect me to analyze how guys are running routes precisely we can all strange corn on and look at the sides. Campbell the L. Jim good to see you this commerce. Beg show today. Lebron still talking about who will be joining him next season hall of fame enshrinee at read right there. We'll get him a chair, but we start with the New York Giants insistence of a plan this coming season. You know, the one that nobody can really see except general manager. Dave gettleman. All right. So the giants made big news after trading Odell to the Browns a week ago. They made head-scratching new sticking with their thirty eight year old quarterback and yesterday. They put it all together for the most interesting news of all the reasons why on a conference call with the media Gettleman addressed at all starting with Odell. After much discussion. We just believed. This was in the best interest of the New York football giants. I want everybody to know. This was purely a football business decision this. No intrigue. There's no he said she said, none of that stuff. So let's not waste time. With with those types of questions after the fact some have questioned why we signed Dell and then trade to them. As I said publicly twice. We didn't sign them to trade him. But obviously things changed. And frankly, what changes and other teammate offer we couldn't refuse this narrative that he lies all the paid. And can't play is a crock. I'm telling you. So at the end of the day, you guys gonna say get them out of his mind are knows what he's talking about. When he evaluates players. That's really what it is. That's really where it's at. And I'm okay. If you disagree with me, that's fine. But what I'm telling you is if you turn around, and you take a look at what he's making right now. And and look look around the league and see what quarterbacks of making all right? If you were in my shoes, you'd say, you know, what they're really is not the way he finished the season. And what he's making the really wasn't a decision to make really and truly Pat. You know, very, very, honestly, it's not my responsibility to tell you guys what I'm doing. That is not just like, it's my responsibility to respond to every rumor that comes down the pike. That's not my job. Okay. It's not my responsibility. Trust me. We got a plan and over time. You know, you've got to be patient. You know, everybody wants answers. Now, we live in instant gratification society, instant gratification world and everybody wants answers. Now over time. You'll see it. You gotta trust it. I think more so than wanting answers now is I think fans meaty lawn answers period, or he Gettleman addressed a number of different things Odell ally the overall plan let's start with Odell C C. Are you buying the giants kind the Odell trading business decision? They can always say that because what's good for business. And can they trust the player, and they felt basically for the New York football giants and their brand to move forward. It was best for them from a football standpoint. Because that's the business durian. So I put everything into that. When you say football decision football means their character to are. They going to be at practice are they reliable. Also are there? Good football player. Are they good in the locker room? So those are all good football decisions. There is no off the field in professional football. Once you start playing professor your own the clock twenty four seven. So I understand exactly what he's saying. But he's not telling the truth because he was telling the truth when Odell since he's been there, basically his to trade show he approached it lasts off-season off season with his friend John Dorsey in with the with the Browns like they were talking about it now Dorsey was little consume with trying to get Baker Mayfield are the right quarterback. But they had conversations you can read it, they talk. They talk about them talking about this deal in last year's combine not this year's combine. So I can't believe everything that he's saying. But he is right. It's not his job to tell us every move that he's doing but for a long long time. He's tried to trade Odell Beckham in del felt like he was going to get traded. He felt like he couldn't make New York on home. So that he makes mistakes along the way. Yes, if I wanna revisit history. Yes, he did. But they've got him. I don't believe he's telling the truth here. Hundred percent when we get to the part. I think he's telling the truth on Eli either. But that might be above his pay grade, the allies stuff might be over his head above this is okay. I mean, it's fairly obvious last coach that was their benched ally. How long did he last what the giant a few weeks the general manager can't do that? Because general manager was fired. All and so the point I'm making is if you and we'll get to the you lie stuff, if you can't tell the truth on July, then it would behoove you greatly to tell the truth on Dell Beckham and the idea that Odell getting rid of you've got an offer you can't refuse. You gotta godfather offer. She got the seventeenth pick the Browns to third round picks. They gave you the worse of the two and first round safety. They had given up on saying we looked at this two first round picks because once upon a time drill peppers was first overall. It was the first round pick one time Richardson was the third overall pick of a draft. He's in the af AFL now like that. That's silliness. This wasn't a own. My god. I can't believe the offer. We just got this wasn't someone coming the three in the trade in the draft offer three I two seconds of thirds. Like, we have no choice that's nonsense and the idea of New York Giants will be better on the field without Odell Beckham all evidence points to the opposite in games. He's played. They've won fifty percent. More than games. He hasn't allies been a better quarterback with him on the field. They've scored more points with him on the field. We know that they're better as a football team with Odell Beckham. And we know they got they didn't get what the Steelers got very Tonio Brown thirty cents on the dollar. But they certainly didn't get one hundred cents on the dollar fro del Beckham Juhnke, we know that and you have to seem that if the situation was above gentleman's had maybe the Adele one was well, maybe that was Amarah decision as while. Let's get to the wooded you make of what Gettleman said about ally. And how the fact that they don't think he's worth it as a thirty year old quarterback as a crock. Thing about we about the money part. And you say you look around NFL ally. Manning you're paying that number. Nick has that exact number twenty three million as the seventh highest capital amongst all quarterbacks twenty three point two mil. So you can look at it cap or you can look at it real dollars. They don't look at it as if they're spending too much on the quarterback because of their overall respect for that would have to be what it is. Because he hadn't been a pro level quarterback for at least five years probably longer than that. So I can understand when organization because this is not about how good is he right now. Kobe Bryant at the end of his career man, he demanded every single dollar from the Lakers. How much was he making in over thirty five million dollars, and he wasn't nearly player. But he wasn't gonna take the discount either. It was for time served now him and Coby are not in the same stratosphere as far as athletes, but relationship to an organization, that's what's important here. It was a lifetime achievement award. This is the the Mara family. This is what they've decided to do ally. They don't want light plan for another team. They want him retire New York giant, and they feel like ally in all those others that were responsible for those two championships. He's got much respect for them the family does. So that's all this is right now. And and I understand that part of it. But even there when he says when he says look at what other quarterbacks are making I told you it's the seven highest cap hit amongst quarterbacks now is seventeen million salary. But the so we can do cash mercy's cap all that I under. Because part of that's the signing bonus. That's been pro rated when he says look it out you like play over the end of the year. What sampler we talking about the final three games where he had three touchdown passes and six turnovers that can't be what you're talking about. Or about the final eight games of the season where he was better than the first games. But still bad like we know what he lie is the idea that he is old. And at this point a well below average quarterback is not a crock. It is the facts we have been leading to over the last five years ally. Manning the year before Dell got there had the lowest pass rating in football and the most interceptions in football. He then had a three year period that you could argue was the best three years of his career in large part because Oto Beckham junior's on the field with him and owed was healthy in those three years since Dell's been out of the lineup all of two years ago and part of last season. Ally has been the quarterback he was trending towards five years ago, which is a well below average quarterback. Who has had to unbelievable playoff runs? And he Gettleman I do feel for him in this regard that I do things overhead. I don't think the Beckham thing is because of the Beckham the if you can't pick the trade you can't pick the quarterback you then what are you doing the then the owner is the GM? So I don't think the Beckham thing was above his pay grade. But the manning thing clearly is, but he's not even telling a consistent story on that. And I think these quotes just like we didn't sign that we didn't sign Odell to trade him was thrown against him. I think these quotes are going to be run back when it says you guys say you lies old overpaid. That's a crock. Okay. Well, we'll have sixteen games to find out. All right. So all that being said do you trust Cattlemen's planning you trust the giants plan moving forward? See a lot of faith in giants because I've seen him operate and they've operated with a great deal of patients, but I'm just going to. I'm a little. Timid is far as what their future is because they don't have a future ally. Now, they might love their past men NFL past is the past. It's about what are you going to do in the next three years? They don't have a quarterback. I believe in Barclay as a running back. They got to beef up their offense. I believe he's going to be a superstar. But the way this team I need to see more positive things. Now, do I think he can run a team and picked out evaluate that. Yes. Absolutely. No disrespect to that. But as far as the giants ownership and him coming together on a plant going forward when you give up on Dell Beckham because every draft pick every other player, you're taking the chance hoping if he becomes a player one day. So I wouldn't say I have as much faith in giant. I've had over the years because they have proven with their patients they're worthy of that trust. But right now, they are at a fork in the road in Dave settlement is driving the car is he gonna make the right turn. That's what I can say the Mara family. I still have faith in them. What they do. Jayme. What they believe in as people. And when we say do we trust the giants plan? I would like to know what the planet's because if not my job, right? If someone comes to you in your personal training, capacity. Jenna and says I wanna cut weight Niles wanna add a lot of bulk. It's like wait you pick one of the two we want to rebuild and we wanna contend. Okay. Well, if you wanna do everything you wanna do nothing. And so that there are teams in the league that we know specifically we think we're taking a step back this year to take a step forward. We think were in win right now mode. We're trying to take the next up to make the playoffs. The giants trying to have have it both ways, we're rebuilding. And we want to contend anyone hold onto the past. And we wanna look to the future. That is not a plan except they get them in would not use the word rebuilt. He said, we're not rebuilding. We're actually building hear that word. Correct. Take a break. We'll talk a lot more about this. Chris canes going to be here coming up in a little bit. But on the other side of the Dallas Cowboys at a three time all pro that's next on fest one you can always Chuck. Us out on the Fox Sports channel on Sirius XM. We'll get to the Cowboys Eric Benny, very just a second. But first nuggets and Celtics kyri Irving mismatched with Mason Plumlee, and he nails the jumper nuggets gotta supplement. Mason Plumlee, get put out on an island out by three point is the second time and three days we've seen somebody do this to him. That's what the NBA games about men pick and roll get the mismatch warrior Spurs and host f curry from sixty feet out the buzzer beater to end the first quarter stuffing shoulda shot more shots from beyond half court. It was an odd night where they were both off claim particular. But this tied the game up the end of one and credit to Steph or not caring about the field goal percentage. A lot of guys in the NBA the last few years, they wait until right after the horn to throw this up. So the percentage how far it is Nick four hundred four feet, so three seventy one feet. Try sixty one long shot made this season. Oh, you knew the answers. You said. Sixty. But it shows how much you thinking. He thunder gore and drug h finds a cutting Derek Jones junior for the two handed flush do broke his left arm. When I was watching the other side. I was like what the heck happened thought it like dislocated, I was like stretch Armstrong, go go. Gadget did the steel in time. Get your wife in the show stand. Yells line moving onto the Dallas Cowboys after a very quiet star to free agency appears Dow's maybe getting back into the game here. Eric berry will reportedly visit Dallas this weekend. He needs a job Cavs Nita safety berry spent most of last season on the chiefs bench, recovering from an achilles tear. But he made the all protein three eight seasons in Casey before that see how much would this signing health douse Cowboys. If you told me, we're very is. And I'm not a fair person. I think I think sometimes you need to let the public a little something. Like, I've known Eric berry since he decided to see have training. Company that trained with Eric most of the trainers. I've been knowing them since they came out of college gave them the first opportunity. So his training staff was where people that I know. So I got chance to know Eric berry chance to train with them right next to him for a number of years. But the most impactful thing about Eric Bury's when I saw him recovering from cancer. And he was out there training trying to make a comeback into the league still you could see the of the chemotherapy wool skull hat. It was ninety five degrees in south Florida because he didn't want people to feel bad for him because he lost all of his hair. And just seeing what he was doing. There were certain points during the workout that he would just cry and it wasn't out of sadness. It was about man the opportunity to build to play the game. So my commentary Eric berry, it it might not be the most professional because I've seen I've touched them. I know how much he wants to play. I know what kind of great guy is to have in the locker room. And I know I saw all those three all pro season. He was phenomenal. He can run he's like a four three eight at his best shape. He works out. He loves the game. He's a great leader. He's like a silent sassy didn't say a whole bunch. But but he's got people's attention because he doesn't mince his words and everything so Eric berry his an asset to any organization. He would be the best safety. They've had in Dallas in a few years because they need a nother playmaker. And I just believe if he's able to get in a situation. There's more talent around him in Dallas that Efi's able to get healthy. And I don't know Richard Sherman came back from an achilles had a good season in San Francisco. Eric berry in the process of coming back and maybe rushing comeback developed some burned bone Spurs around the injury. So it's been very very difficult in this last return. But if there is one guy you say, I'm gonna take all seventeen hundred players in the NFL, and you're going to Bank on one guy making some. Iraqi Lous type comeback him. It's this guy. This is not the show for unbiased Eric berry commentary. I didn't know him since he was seventeen by since he was twenty one I know his family. I was with him in Kansas City. I've spent time with his parents, this guy is one of the best people leaving Chris mentioned silent assassin, but emotional leader of that chiefs defense when he was there and even when he was injured the last full season he played in two thousand sixteen he was the best safety in the NFL with respect to roll Thomas. It was the best year of his career. It was his third all pro year. He had already recovered from an ACL for his second year in the league and Kanter seem engine and in the first game of twenty seventeen on one of the biggest plays of the game. A game changing play against the New England Patriots on a fourth down. If I remember he popped his achilles. And that was the last time we saw the real Eric berry if he's healthy. He would be the eighth during the Cowboys roster. If he can stay on the field. He is the what he is shown every year of health is a bad season. Berg. Berry is the Pro Bowl how. Well, it's it's as big of an F as there is for any player in the league right now he's played in two and a half really a half a game a half game and one full game over the last two years. That's the reality of it. And so I if anyone can come back from an achilles today who came back from cancer to become the best safety in the entire NFL, and he will work at it. He already is the highest paid safety in NFL history. He got multiple big contracts as I contract with only old rookie wage scale. He got super paid. And then he got a franchise tag. And then got on monster new deal and the first game onto the daily popped achilles. But last year it was the he'll with the bone Spurs. They couldn't get him on the field. The chiefs thought chief's fan thought. Oh, there's been real cautious. They're waiting for the stretch run. No, he couldn't get out there. And so he's going to have to prove it somewhere. But I am I am rooting for him. I this is a guy that he's one of my favorite people in the NFL. And we know how good he is when he. Health. Let's see let me ask you from the Cowboys persective because of what Nick laid out his history with injuries. Does it behoove them then to sign him to an inexpensive short term contract that fit into their plans because you know, how much they do have to sign. They do need a playmaker at safety. But they do have a they have a number of needs as far as players in house. Don't have a lot of cap space. They needed Jason Witten. They just threw him a few million dollars. Like like, they won't go to need that money. They need to Jason Witten last season when they're titans weren't developed in Amari Cooper was hadn't been come to the Cowboys. That's when they tried to get him back. So for me, I believe that money will not be well spent, but yes, that's where berry is in his career. He's gonna have to have some type of faith in the organization. Yes to sign a deal with a small base salary very few guarantees and have the incentives where if he plays to a Pro Bowl level he'll be compensated. Like one the Kansas City Chiefs while they wouldn't say this publicly because of how great of member of that organization he'd been for nearly a decade. They clearly don't think he's has any football left in them. And I say that because capitalized to keep him with sixteen million to get rid of him was fifteen million. They only saved one million dollars by releasing. And so they clearly think that that killings injury and the bone Spurs that followed the he'll issue was essentially a career in. I hope they're wrong. I I if you're going to take a flyer on a guy, certainly rather spend a couple million on him than witness you mentioned, but in any team in the league just from a locker room leader perspective is better with Eric berry there, especially how cheaply is gonna come. All right. Let's take a break and talk some basketball on the other side who should the Lakers pair with LeBron this summer. That's next on first things. First. Division champ Lamont. Peterson takes on Sergei opinions on Sunday that six eastern only on this one. And the Fox Sports at time for us to go viral with edition of Odell Beckham junior. Baker Mayfield this poised to have a breakout sophomore season for the Browns. But a football doesn't work out for the twenty three old quarterback. Baker can always turn to baseball showcasing a decent. Swing at brewers. Batting practice. Okay. Baker so Christian yelich the NFL MVP last year. He and Baker very good friends Christmas, warmer, Miami, Marlin now, Milwaukee Instagram datum all throughout the run last year that route inform the whole time Jinnah is our Instagram up dance that we something you're a lot of things on don't discount yourself, your invaluable to the show very much saying, but the Instagram much, but so much shade days for my partner. Chris Carter stories start your morning this. Seems like a good time to start with stories. Sterkel whiskey became the six leading score an MBA history last night, passing Wilt Chamberlain account press of his career been somehow he's become historically. Underrated. His top twenty all time guy NBA regular season and finals MVP now the six leading scorer ever the second greatest foreign born player in the greatest European player of all time. What an absolutely remarkable run, and is the type of career see where you're happy. It'll happen in one place that it was that he was acquired by Dallas on draft night and stayed there. His entire career and changed the game not only exceptional player. But how the game is played since dirt came into the game. As far as being a stretch for stretch five putting the big guy behind the three point art how it opened up. The core. We know players are bigger stronger and faster, but because of dirt his impact on the game. It's created more space. That's why guys still scored a basketball tremendous career moving onto the warriors. Now, they lost to the Spurs last. Night mainly due to a tough shooting night for both Steph and clay warriors now tied with Denver for the one seat in the west Nick how big of a deal is this. I only get two huge. I think they will still get the one seat. I'll tell you this much. It matters a lot for those teams jockeying for the three seed, well, gee, really want the threes of the words and of falling to the two liner. Would you prefer being the four line? The Western Conference playoffs are all messed five through eight is all close three through five. It's it's confusing up top. This was a night about the Spurs. Playing extraordinary defense. They rough structure in the rodeo road trip. See since then they have been on fire skyrocketing up the stand couldn't make a shot. But I believe that number one seed, it's important. It's what you want to just in case you get to that game number seven. And I don't think the teams at the bottom. It's so bundled up. They can't concentrate on the warriors are the nuggets. But that number one seed liked to be number one seed in the chance to build a three peat. I. On the Boston Celtics continuing their up and down season losing to the nuggets last night, despite thirty points and four steals from Kyrie Irving Boston. Now, the fifth seed in the east one game back of the Pacers. See what do you make the Celtics with eleven games left in the regular season? I wouldn't want to overreact to this. Because Denver's better basketball team, they play more basketball consistently than the Celtics. And then the back into that this what the Celtics do up and down up and down the really really talented. But the cohesiveness never got back what they had last year in the play and one of the reasons last year that offense was better than a lot of us expected is they were generating a ton of corner threes, and they were knocking them down. I couldn't believe this number. I heard this morning dead last in the NBA corner. Three percents that's supposed to be the most efficient shot in basketball than a layup. Celtics can't hit them. And while the nuggets have been better this game on the Celtics home court the Celtics need where they're four point favorites. And the nuggets were in control through. Out despite kyri being excellent tough game for Jason Tatum. Gordon Hayward didn't play with the concussion tough loss for Boston at Staples some of their momentum. I finally perhaps no one will be under a bigger spotlight than I hear Browns head coach, Freddie, kitchens GM, John Dorsey kitchens will quote, hold players accountable. Are I Chris Carter kitchens? The biggest question Mark for the Cleveland Browns headed into the season. I think there's just a number of questions when you have a young coach. I think that the ownership John Dorsey Alonzo Highsmith guys that picked the players they got the right guy. I mean, you have to look at the people that they turn down. I mean, they could have easily they thought because Dorsey Wilson Green Bay. They thought for sure night Macari Mike McCarthy. He's going imagine. Mike McCarthy coaching this team approach into season. We have this questions about the cove. No what about Bruce? And with he comes out of retirement, which he did coach Tampa Bay. What if he was coaching? We have those questions. No, sure. Those guys would love to be getting ready to coach this team absolutely sold. The thing about if we're being honest with should have some questions at frady now for me. I don't have as many questions and other people because I down and met with them cover them in week number fourteen of last season but parent for the Carolina game, and I talked to the players and the players respect them in John Dorsey and looking for coach he wanted a voice that these young up and coming players could here, he didn't want an old voice. He didn't want someone who'd been in the NFL who he thought maybe there was a disconnect between their overall youth. And and what they're looking at compared to a young, and he had a lot of confidence and Freddie because put under the tremendous strain. He was under last year taking over for q. Todd Haley out the door. It was like a coup in the building. But Freddie kitchens one, but he won over that locker room by the things he said, I was very comfortable with his press conferences as a. First time coordinator, I know in talking to Baker Mayfield Baker thinks that he is the guy that's going to make him the type of player. So yes, I'm confident in Freddie kitchen, but there will be bumps along the road. Even if he had ten years experience, they're going to be bumps with this football team, which should expect. And it is he's a total unknown in this job. And there's going to be questioned about anyone in that role. People. I think have misremembered the very recent history that okay? So those guys got fired and Freddie kitchens was the interim head coach, and they know he elevated to offense coordinator and associate head coach we've seen in the past where a guy someone gets fired midseason the interim head coach Dan Campbell in Miami. They go on a bit of a run. It's like should we keep him as the head coach? But at least you saw few games of him doing the weekly press conference holding the team meetings for that was Greg Williams Joe. So even the Browns don't know what type of head coach he'll be now. The biggest reason I think he got the. Job was because of what we saw from Baker once that Hugh Todd route of the building that Greg Williams took over and he took over the offense. I think it's a little more than just Baker because their offensive line improved drastically their philosophy. How they were who they the Browns Baker not Brown. Start at running the ball. They became more physical and he handled all the personality in all the key. That was coming with being bumped up from a man, you're just a quarterback coach we'll and the offense as a whole no question about it. That's why. Yeah. And Baker gave him the seal of approval and Baker clearly wanted him as his head coach the question for the Browns. And the thing that's in the back of Browns fans mind as a concern is was the reason the offense got so much better. The addition or the subtraction. Meaning was at that. Freddie kitchens helped elevate everything or is it that Hyun Todd was such a toxic situation that just getting them out of the building allowed the off. And Baker and the team is a whole reach what it should have been earlier in the season you have to greatly. Hope it's the former that it was that. Freddie kitchens was a was a quality ad as opposed to you just got rid of the toxicity, but no-one should prejudge him. No, one should say he's going to be a failure. That would be ridiculous. But it also be ridiculous to say. I know he's the right guy to be the head coach. Nobody does. Because you have so much town on that team. Wouldn't even matter. John Dorsey knows he had a chance to get the pick of the litter. But job was open all gear. So he wears the no way you give that roster to a guy unless you have confidence. We might not have confidence in them. But John Dorsey has a hundred percent confident than this is the next great young coach in NFL. I'm certain Dorsey has confidence in what you said. No one said, nobody knows. I though I think you can have confidence in guy. But I don't think when you're whenever you're making a higher. I think you go with your best bet the one, you're gut whatever it is the one you're most confident, but you we would be lying, but it's not just a gut feeling. He was basically the head coach for half the roster for half the season. Right. So it's not a gut feeling. He has some evidence to support it yet. He doesn't. But he doesn't know even when he makes that choice if he would have hired Mike McCarthy era point, he would have you would know the type of team system the organizational structure, Mike McCoy. These going to bring he went with a guy who he thinks has bigger upside a guy who he thinks a better fit for this team, despite the unknown now that might be a testament to what Freddie kitchens has shown in the Bill in the building. But eighties. He is an unknown even to the guy who hired him in this job and all of us, and we'll see over the next few years. What type of head coach? He it's all right. Let's get back to basketball now with this season. All but over for LeBron Lakers all eyes turn to summer plans and not the fun kind. These plans involve the Lakers trying desperately to pair James with one of the game's top free agents. And they are certainly options out there kyri, Katie Kemba Hawaii to name a few. Lebron was asked about this upcoming summer and had this to say. There's a lot of great agents. The summer nocco name any names because every time I say something organization says something about a specific person we get in trouble. So, but we have an opportunity to to get better and very something that no says definitely great to know that when you have an opportunity to get better from personnel sample. See if you're one of the free agent names that I mentioned what's the appeal? What's the draw to come now to the Lakers and sign with this team? Judging by what you saw the happen this season whole lifetime. The Lakers have been a force in in the they only had a few seasons where they were down. But you always knew Dr bus who owned the Lakers and now his daughter. Ginny runs their basketball operate. I mean runs everything for them. Palinka runs basketball pricing him and magic, but their family has been about winning championship. She fired her brother two years ago because they were so bad. It's about winning. It always has been when we'll went there. That's what it was about. When Kareen Wynter. That's what it was about an most of these players. They went out in either traded for them or they just outbid everyone else. So I've just seen it shack. I've just seen. I have seen it year after decade after decade. This is what the Lakers do. That's what you should be attracted to. They are trying to win champ. Manship they have tremendous resources and the location in Los Angeles. They play in a beautiful arena in a beautiful part of town. Like there are a lot of positive things about playing with the Lakers. But ultimately, if you can get paid and during your tenure, you can compete for a championship. What else is there in the league? Like, that's what that's what playing professional sports is about in the Los Angeles Lakers. Not because they're recent history. I know a lot of people watch the show our young people, but as long I'm fifty three every since I've been on earth, the Los Angeles Lakers each decade has presented championship opportunities. That's why I'm a free agent. I'm looking at the lake and each decade through free agency or trade is found a way if not once multiple times to acquire any Norma star LeBron decade before pal. People forget the Pao was arguably the best center in the league when he came over to join up with Koby decade before shack then before that. Cream before that it was will like they have always been able to go get superstars and impair them with the right people around them. They the question for the Lakers is which tier of free agents. Are we talking about? We don't know the top tier Kevin Durant coli Leonard, Kyrie Irving. Those are the three top tier guys. I'd say Katie is almost an impossibility Kawai the door could be opening slightly ajar with the Doc Rivers supposed interest in the Lakers that would be a big paradigm shift from the clippers to the Lakers and kyri. We knows an expert her tier two I think would be quite good wouldn't be tier one. That's clay Kimball Walker and Jimmy Butler. But if you miss out on those top two tiers and assuming that you can win with the top two tiers can contend win. I think LeBron plus any of them sex guys, particularly the guys on the top tier would be instinct contenders. We have to see what happens with the warriors. This is a Suming Kevin Durant. Elsewhere and that super super teams no longer there. But if you out on those top tier? Ears along with not trading Anthony Davis. And then you're talking about tier three boogie Tobias Harris tier four Nicole Cevic Chris Middleton now you're in trouble spot. Now, you're talking about your seventeen LeBron guy your team ING with wiz. And even an actual all-star. Just you know, a top thirty five player in the league that where the Lakers would to me that would be striking out this summer. That would be the way. I do the players rankings is finds it funny. But I don't think I the Lakers should be concerned. But they shouldn't be worried. They have the city they have the team they have LeBron. And even if some members of the media wanna present this narrative that people don't like to play with LeBron. I I'd like to see one player that played with him come out and say that because all we hear from guys whether troll players all-stars superstars is what are you getting those players exist. But if there was a player, why would he do that? Why would he why would he? He why would he insert himself into the LeBron conversation? And just just just you know, I'm gonna say I wasn't pleased with playing LeBron like this. So that's a fair point that maybe that you have maybe reason to stay reserved on it or to stay out of the discussion. But the point I'm making is we can't we have. We haven't heard anybody anybody say that. We haven't heard anybody we've heard count we guys didn't play with the Brown. We are Paul Pierce all the time. We have guys that that have never been on that team say the during say, it's toxic environment. But the guys who have spoken up who have played with LeBron have said positive things. Now, maybe there's other guys that are. But I read it asked outta town though. Right. And then absolutely Kyriakos outta town. And then now that was saying something right there, and then double back to the and said, it was a mistake. Yeah. But I'm just saying let's not let's not forget that one. I if anyone got when you tell when you go to Cleveland management and say I want to be traded. You say I don't wanna play with LeBron. Right. He. Wanted to go have his own team. And then he realized what it was also I didn't wanna play with LeBron. He it hit under won't team. But one hundred percent, even when you say, you don't want people forget that. I don't I don't think people are forgetting that Kyrie Irving left the Cavs by demanding trade like I think that's baked into it. I think put the point I'm making is is that we have heard from. I would say every prominent Ray Allen, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kevin love down to guys whether who bottom of the roster guys, Richard Jeff leg. Concerned jenna? But I'm concerned if the pelicans don't trade AD there unconcerned because we know katie's not coming. We know clay's not comment. And what if they would've Kyrie decided I still like you can't depend on kyri? So unconcerned for the Lakers. All right. Let's take a break coming up. How are the giants justifying trading owed Elba? That's next on first things. Slippy here we talked about Pro Bowl linebacker Bart Scott joins what? Right there Bank. Yes. He said. It's been a whole lot line. Go ahead and bang true. Tone a day near giants made big news barred after trading Dell to the Browns week ago they made some head scratchy news, then designed to stick with their thirty eight year old quarterback yesterday. They put it all together for the most interesting news of all we learn the reasons why on a conference call with the media gentleman. Dave Gettleman addressed at all starting with Odell. After much discussion. We just believe this was in the best interest of the New York football giants. I want everybody to know. This was purely a football business decision this. No intrigue. There's no he said she said, none of that stuff. So let's not waste time. With with those types of questions after the fact some have questioned why we signed Dell and then trade them. As I said publicly twice. We didn't sign him to trade him. But obviously things changed. And frankly, what changed is and other teammate offer we couldn't refuse this narrative. That he lies all the paid. Can't play is a crock. I'm telling you. So at the end of the day, you guys gotta say get 'em out of his mind are knows what he's talking about. When he evaluates players. That's really what it is. That's really where it's at. And I'm okay. If you disagree with me, that's fine. But what I'm telling you is if you turn around you take a look at what he's making right now. And and look look around the league and see what quarterbacks of making all right? If you're in my shoes, you'd say, you know, what they're really is not the way he finished the season. And what he's making the really wasn't a decision to make really and truly Pat. You know, very, very honestly, not my responsibility to tell you guys what I'm doing. That is not my just like, it's not my responsibility to respond to every rumor that comes down the pike. That's not my job. Okay. It's not my responsibility. Trust me. We got a plan and over time. You know, you've got to be patient. Everybody wants answers. Now, we live in instant gratification society, instant gratification world and everybody wants answers. Now overtime you'll see it. You gotta trust. It. I start with you. Is there any reason to trust the giants plan moving forward based on everything he's explained all the moves? This team has made so far all his players are contradictory of each other. He's contradicting itself over and over again because he says, you know, he's trying to rebuild. So he's getting rid of land in is getting rid of Libya Verney, but then he sighs golden Tate. You know, you talk about a guy you guaranteed ill twenty three million dollars over four years, and how can you rebuild? What you basically have the same. Layer sterling Shepard gold and tell you up the same real estate while when you give that money to the younger player because when you get your new quarterback and you're ready to win. You have a young player that you trust that's been in your organization is gonna help you win. I think really what this is a mission that he missed he didn't evaluate his team properly rice. Oh, he thought last year. That's go all in. That's why you make a move like that saquon sake. One is a Finnish piece peace and saquon keenness because even he's a transcendent player. Probably get a go, Jack. He's well on his way to being the superstar. They're gonna wait talent must like Barry Sanders because he's going to be a great player without a team around him. Because instead of moving on from the quarterback, you already said, okay. You got him. He played well, but then he started moving away from him you double down. Right. And you bring back a thirty eight year old quarterback you talking about he's not overpaid. Whether it makes more money than Cam Newton. He makes more money than Philip rivers. And I'll take those guys know before I take manning any day, and you wanna talk about. Okay. Well, they got rid of oatmeal Beckham. If you add golden Tate, and you add drill prepar cap numbers over the next two years twenty one million dollars. Well, Odell Beckham is like twenty four million dollars. So I'd rather have that one great player then old player and a safety that we don't know what he is. Because in college he played he played linebacker. So the same problem issues, you have with Landon Collins out of same issues, you're going to have what your real purpose? He's underperformed. So what are you talking about? See we had this thing with Ray organized chaos. And we say we didn't know what we were doing. They didn't know what they're doing. And that was the beauty of he doesn't know what he's doing. He's gonna have to figure it out. And he's making it up on a fly. Listen your point that they miss evaluated last year is obviously true. No one the most ardent giants fan can't dispute that that last year they signed Nate solar. They sign. Oh, mommy a guard that gets forgotten about three years fifteen million cut midway through the season draft a running back ever resign. Odell everything did last year was about winning right now in the team started one in seven and at the trade deadline. They're selling pieces off so that was a missile valuation. But the other point you make that the original sin is ally. Manning on this is clearly true. What was the biggest cause of Odell frustration the quarterback? What was the biggest cause of Dell's distraction last year the interview what question in the interview to you have a problem at quarterback? What is the reason the giant? It's so hard to believe they are a team that is trying to rebuild eight thirty eight year old quarterback. And this idea for Dave Gettleman that well, listen, he's look at the last half. Let's have a look at the all of last year. Pro football focus says in a clean pocket. Twenty eighth ranked passer under pressure thirty fourth accurate pass percentage thirty second turnover worthy played percentage twenty eight. Like there is you can't find a category that he's not in the bottom fifth of the league. There's only thirty five qualifying quarterbacks. Now that decision is almost assuredly over Dave Ted. That's an ownership decision about what? We're doing with a legacy player. Arguably the greatest offensive player in the history of the franchise. I get that part of it. But the every the moves he does have control over trading. Odell the trading away VA Vernon who they signed in the off season drafting a running back instead of trading back or drafting quarterback those are the GM's decisions. And they have they haven't been telling a consistent story. Well, it's hard for me to have faith in the plan. Because of what I hear I'm giving free piece of advice. Stop having press conferences. All right. You don't see New England. Bella check. I'm press conference talking about personnel. Like that because you're only going to make mistakes because he said, yeah, it's not his job. It's really not. It's not his job to be able to give out whatever the trade secrets are. And what I'm going to do in the future. But if you decide to participate in a press conference, it is your job to say something, and I do believe that you can evaluate town. I know you don't know how to do a press conference because you can't continue to actually proceed in good faith and try to let the public know. Okay. This is what I'm doing. It's not going to work for you. The Odell Beckham thing went bad with the interview and Odell Beckham is partially responsible for for him getting trade with you next roof, though, what it don't you can't tell the truth when you are franchise. You're not getting paid to tell the truth. He lies not pay to tell the truth and people make mistakes, alternate years. He many always said all that's all covered up for him. Oh, that's on me. Oh, that's my fault. All I got to play better. I gotta get better. When they asked him. Do you like the quarterback do you like Bart Scott as a guest? Yes. I like Bart man barks. Okay. People all the time. He had a simple is the quarterback situation. It's good and move on. That's what you're supposed to do. They're paying you to do that as a leader. But he's been trying to train them in every since he's. Got there. He talked to John Dorsey last year at the combine about trade. No, Dale, he would've trade Dell to San Francisco if they would give them the number two pick so trying to act as if old things change old. They made him offer. No, he had a tag on. Dell's head and Odell was not going to be part of them moving forward. So I believe in the marr family. I believe in them. I really do. They had too many years of being good people in good owners. But I don't believe in the current direction that the giants are going. I think I think the Mara family has been they haven't been playing. Well, they haven't been they haven't been good owners because they punt it, and I think the mandate that you had to keep alive. If you're going to be the general manager. That's why I believe Louis Riddick wasn't there. Now, get them is the older type of guy he believes in Kansas City model, but it's no Mahomes out there. Now, he's telling us that he may be in running for quarterback when he just told us last year that those quarterbacks weren't good. And then these quarterback is probably be better. When when they're not your ranked the same, and he's a guy that can't see. See you'll data column early could be a transcendent type of player because he's always he's personally he's never even draft quarterback ever in his career. Right. So he's always inherited a good quarterback. So we don't know what he's capable of doing. We know he's good in drafting people. We he's not great talent evaluator as far as bringing in free agents. How much more do we believe in the plan? If they do go out and get a quarterback how much of this is based on the fact that they're going into this year with a thirty eight year old quarterback who didn't really prove that he could still be the jump me. Like like, I said that the original sin drafting Dwayne Haskins can be can wipe that away to a large degree. I like Haskins more than I like darnold. I like Haskins more than Baker. Now. I was a huge fan of Josh Rosen. Obviously didn't have a great rookie season. We'll see what he is moving forward. So drafting Haskins or buying very low on Rosen if you can get Rosendo New York for your second round pick like to me. Okay. Now, you're starting to see the plan. Now, you are working under the constraints that you have that. The most fair criticism of Dave Gettleman everyone's got constraints that their job from their boss that they're not supposed to talk about right that we just gotta deal with it. How well do you work given those constraints or those constraints the reason for failure? If the constraint is he li- must be respected. You can't even ask him take a pay cut. He asked me the starter until he says he's done. Okay. Man. Those are those are tough handcuffs. But how well can you work given those handcuffs if you can't then what's the point having GM? Your job is to do the best given your circumstances. So long way to answer a question. They get Haskins to me that fixes a lot of it. They trade for Josh Rosen. It potentially fixes a lot of it. I don't know that given the his commentary this year see that they are seemed like a team that wants to package picks to move up. And I don't think Haskins going be there. Number six. Stick around coming up could the Dallas Cowboys at a time. All pro that's next on first thing. Never gets all that was read finding out. He was going into the hall of fame. At is joining us now. Congratulations and welcome. Thanks. We're getting up. Reminding reaction now come on. Now, I've seen you man. I haven't seen any of the hall of famers as cool is. Hey, dave. I've been waiting on. Everyone is crying blacked out. Phil on. What what's going through your veins to do that family, man? You know, I did expect it, you know, great fans across the country. You know, players team e coaches may your hall of Famer you'll be there. They just wait. And they just holding down for you get in getting into the year before did that help you out with that whole experience. Yeah, he definitely talked to me and let me know some things that were going to happen. And I saw a right after he went into the hall and he's explaining stuff right there. You know? So and the on been helping me Derrick Brooks, you know, and Brandon moss talk to us that next morning. Who's got the knock, you know? So it's been it's been good, man. A lot of lot of lot of bras been helping out. You've always been a sharp dresser. As you see in that video. When you when you mentioned Ray, Ray was ready. I don't know if he's ready to preach. I don't know if he's ready for a wedding Ray was as sharp as did Ray give you any pointers on. Listen man that video is going to be around. And forever. You're going to show it on things like this. Make sure you have picked out exactly how you for that. Now, we haven't gotten that for. But I'm still speed is not going to be helping you. Okay, because he's still talking. He's on the podium, right? The mood. He didn't help with right in. You know, my dad my dad's the guy, you know, the shop. So just my family, you know, so I get it from him. To be included in your class that you were that you're going to be sworn in with amuse who's you know. We got four DVD's two safeties onus unusual and we with Kevin Kevin. And Tony, you know. It's it's crazy. You know to go in with those guys I played against them. You know, great competitors. I'm still still having trouble with Tony, you know, at that size. But yeah, it's it's just such a great time going in with everybody. How long after you retired? Did you start looking at? Okay. So it's five years. Here's who retired with me. And I mean, you is we knew it you chant in Tony were as close to lot first. Ballot guys could be when did this start coming on your mind? Like, oh, this is all be going in. And here's who the guys will you didn't need to be with tie, and Milwaukee, obviously. But two guys when did you start kind of realizing wait this is who I'm going to be inducted with? Not into they really announced that I had a, you know clue that who I will go in with yet when they had the finalist list, I think in like October they come out with that list. Four that I didn't think about it at all. I was trying to see guess every ex player kinda counts the plays that he has left him. We're still thinking if you could come back, then I still have it any man, you know, just watching this stuff. But you know, it's just I think it's just part of it. You know, I think that's just far. Count ex player you just count those plays. Dallas Cowboys looking for safety's bringing people out of retirement three and a half million, man. You can get a million half from them. Yeah. Hall of Famer patrolling the secondary easy making those place. Okay. Listen. Listen to me read my lips. It'd be a right. Let's talk about someone who can play you retirement. You'll you'll see mitt is Dr they put you into a placement only way can ruin your bus of Jesus comes himself. And you think about playing we'll talk about some real player. Just what the show's about. What about what about wink Martindale system there? I know you think you could play in that system. But what about Earl going to Baltimore bring in that same spirit, you love his gang. You love it overall sports character, and what they're doing in Baltimore still on the defensive side is still very special. Yeah. I mean early the player that I know he is forced communicating again guys lined up. That's the key right? There wants to happens. They just play the way he's been playing fast. I think he'd be fine in that that system, you know, I'm not sure if they're going to play a stronger free always say play boat. You know, he knows that in Obu Earls been kind of locked at at that free safety position. So he'll be the quarterback back there. You know? They just got rid of my line CJ CJ to. Yes. No, CJ N. And what? So somebody's got to be that leader back there to pick them up. You know? So it's gonna be interesting to see you know, how that works out. Are you surprised with how much money's being thrown around some of these safeties? I mean, I watched football and Chris plan. Those guys made a certain amount of money. You know, I just came back from the hall of fame. Will you see the first actual contract? You know, you see how much that guy. May I got that? Check is inflation. You know, is part of it is part entity -ment, you know, as a player when you in the NFL locker room, you know, that it's coming, you know, guys going to make more money behind you. You know, so not at all, you know, we pavers. We pay Christmas paver for me. You know, I was a payment for these young guys, you know, so they just got on hand. I know you throw that money around. But if they don't know how to manage it and handle it. You know, don't have the right people around him get taken away. Like you see some of these guys making bad season. You said some really interesting you're talking about Earl Thomas, and it probably had plies to Eric berry. If he signs on somewhere. Tyrod Matthew Landon Collins about the communication aspect of that position. We often hear middle linebackers the quarterback of the defense. You were talking about the responsibility. If you're a great safety, whether strong or or as you were both of being the communicator getting guys lined up letting guys know what's coming before it even happens. Can you expand on that? Because I find it seems to me that was you people. Remember you for tracking the ball from cross the field. But so much of what you did was knowing what was coming before the play was disguising getting -sition and tricking the opposing quarterback. Yeah. I mean, we too. People on the field safety position of the only two that can really see all the twenty one guys on the field. You know, not not all positions. Get that view that we get you know, you've had times I've had times when I'm running up telling Terrell. Suggs, something you know, was about the play. A lotta Ray communicate when do guys because I could see it, you know. And I think you know, from my position you analyze little quicker to by seeing the whole formation that matters. You know, always tell coins to look across the field. So they can see the whole formation before. I have to make the check, you know. So it's just getting guys on the same page giving them little keys that you could see because you're able to see the whole field. There are some great Ed read stories from opposing coaches and quarterbacks about things you would do within a game, especially when you're playing the more astute teams like that you would play a certain play out of position or in a certain spot to set them up. For something later that was I'm not mistaking that the so rather than me talk about Ed read stories. Can you explain when you're going up against Peyton Manning Tom Brady, one of those guys something you would do early in a game to set yourself up for later in the game? One of my favorites is we used to lineup week in the cavity of the defense. Looking like you guys willing to stop the run? And right before the snap of the ball, you start undisciplined karaoke. And then you just start running to the side, and you intercept the same route. Are you end up helping the other guy on the strong side? I'm like how did he get there? Like those instincts to that. Most people don't have. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I played a lot of football coastal football. And for that. I mean this like I say it goes back to knowing the formation knowing the play knowing the defense, I would never jeopardize my job for disguise. I always told guys that smart receivers like Chris can easily tell what coverage you in by when you line up. As soon as you come out there talking to the quarterback it's cover to cover one is. It's only so many coverages that we can give you know. So with that in mind, I'm giving them. This guy's online up on that weakside making it look like I'm bliss, but at the end of the day, I know exactly well supposed to be you gotta think you gotta analyze the down and distance the formation the personnel group. The time of on the clock. Will you add on football field? Just like that. You know? So at the end of the day, I know what I have to do. So I can run from the line all the way back to the half. Because I know that's my job, you know. And then with doing with doing that you see the formation throws them off. You know, what they got gotta go at the ball to. And also, I know of my hope is that as my defense, you know. So it's a lot of facts because I get guys all the time. I wanna watch film wannabe. How you meant to teach that that's tough. That's tough to teach replicate teach repetition. I know you mentioned that you were coaching your son this past weekend flag football, Mike. I was going to ask you how much football you're still watching. I mean, can you believe that we've set sitting around here? The last couple of weeks talking about the Cleveland Browns, the favorites in the north my how things have changed in the last couple years following the team's pretty closely be tough for Cleveland. Because that that division is so tough, you know, with with Reagan's Cincinnati still right there. They always just be right there. And you got Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, always figure it out. You know, they have great ownership for reason. Yep. You know? So they always figure it out. They have a lot going off all follow football the bit. You know, my son. My nephews play, you know. So it's about developing them share spending that time with them half the time, I'm making tacos on Sunday sun. So no and he's running outside the play basketball. You know? So I mean, I follow as much as possible. I don't watch it. How we did when we players. That's the only thing. I don't like like, I I don't get to see the whole twenty two. You know, you watching on film on on TV is different era. Getting you're getting the fans view, which is phone the quarterback in the ball to the players view. Which is everything that's going. Makes it hard to do interviews and. People ask you all the time. You know, what do you think about a team? I watched it like you watch it. So I get that fast perspective. Now, you know, like you you missing a lot of things when you're not in that locker room. Oh, you not, you know, studying everyday like, you guys do people think he just show up. You just talk sports guys actually do work. You know? So yes, it's it's interesting now though, man really is. Well, one of the reasons you're here is with tickets for one hundred years tell us tell us when that initiative is what you're doing the leak. Yeah. I mean, the league is doing some fantastic for the fans. It's all about the fans, obviously, we played this game in entertainment mode to make sure the fans enjoy it. The league is given away two tickets for the next hundred years to one fan but to a family because they can pass. Yes. Wow. Which is awesome. You know? I mean, I wish I can get in that. So so, and I'm pretty sure if you in Green Bay, you go home you can win those tickets, but you still have to get on lay away. It's crazy. But you know, again, the the the league is is is joining with players and just going to be doing stuff all year long. They can they can hashtag fell on one hundred contests and at on Twitter or Instagram if I'm sure that's right. A NFL to to to apply for, you know, just showing that they found them showing showing crazy fans they love the game. Why they love the game. And and why they spend it with family myself. You know, I grew up at the park, I'm park baby. A lot of time. My dad at the park, you know, playing ball. He coached me. I coached my son trae my nephews, and that's what it's about. It's about really that family time. You know, you get to spend family time at a game. Thank you for listening to the first things first podcast. 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Pete Sweeney joins Bink at Night to discuss Le'Veon Bell, Chris Jones, Dee Ford, Justin Houston and more

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Pete Sweeney joins Bink at Night to discuss Le'Veon Bell, Chris Jones, Dee Ford, Justin Houston and more

"Oh, man is. Well as times you sit and do the commercial break neck. I don't need a break man ice one jump right in it is I want to jump right into this. Because my man Pete swing editor in chief Arrowhead, prayed hurting, pregame halftime and postgame all chief season long in. You're gonna hear pizza more when it comes up to the draft. I'm going to spoil anything, but Pete Nye will probably be working together a little bit as we like to Heche tag chiefs, Pete. Yeah. Of course, in the it's what month isn't here. It's it's March and we're talking plenty of chiefs because the NFL has designed this thing. So that there's no break at all. When it comes to news Pete. They've made it twelve months now with the combine the draft the OT as the minicamp there is not one month that there's not something going on in the NFL like the Super Bowl the senior bowl union. There's not one month. The that's the only sport that's done. It's the only sport that's made every month. Month relevant. They've found a way to do it. A lot of people don't talk about that. But the NFL has made every single month extremely relevant truly working in it. You look at the counter every day. Right. So working on our at bride dot com. It really truly is I wouldn't say fifty two week but forty seven week year. There's five weeks prior to training camp where the players are are set free. And that's when the coaches have their, hey, don't mess up here. The season's coming up true. But you agree with me. It's still part of June. Camps, literally every month eighth or something every month. There's some it's a technicality. Put on me there. Yeah. The that that there's just like a little five week dead period right before training camp. But by then people are so starved, you just kind of talk about speculation. Anyway, as to what the chiefs record is going to be what do you think player Xs gonna have because the roster set so on and so forth. So you're absolutely right. And you hope you're not writing a story about somebody being arrested in that little time period. Sean Smith that you're you're hoping that you're not writing stories, but there's just content and for content. Aero had pride dot com is a ton of content. I recommend everybody. Go read that piece by Matt lane today, incredibly well done with the free agency and the draft and everything else. And of course, we have Kim Swanson's draft guide coming out on April eight that people can use six ten is a promo code and buy it for six nine nine is is kit. Like, you say it's cheaper than a burrito. That's right. They make sure you've picked up the Casey draft guide. But you're talking about Matt lane this week on their podcasts. It was funny because Matt was the one who really was against all the speculation. And here he goes online today, and you can find it Arrowhead pride dot com. Matt goes through like the twelve or thirteen chiefs rumors that we've seen in his reaction to it in what he would do if he was in the position of general manager breadth each first of all I want to play two things for you, Pete and get your reaction. This is twelve seconds of cdot paying twenty five dollars to ask laying then Collins question. I don't know. If you've heard this answer not have you heard the answer. I he actually I ran into him when he was headed out, and he told me about it. But I've not heard it yet. Yeah. He spent twenty five bucks to ask. Leeann Collins a question that we used to have advertising from the station to ask Russell Wilson on his app, and they had a advertisement Ford. And I never asked Russell Wilson. The question. I didn't have anything to ask him. Really? But I would have with the Collins, but you pay twenty five dollars for this came youth thing. I'm not exactly sure what that is Pete. But what would you charge on your cameo bay? The word pay anything. I pay. You men Craig. But anyway, this is what's that got for twenty five dollars? Now, he says he's going to do this again tomorrow. I'm like see that say that see that. See that by some nice stuff. But see that's also incredibly cheap like me as well. This is what see that paid twenty five dollars for winning asked. Landon Collins if there was any interest in the chiefs like there's been this rumor swirling and everything else. This is what twenty five dollars could you? I can't give us. No final and everybody else found out a lot of been on my line. And not ops. But we'll see when a deadline comes twenty five bucks. He's rolling around in the car, just Bank and ban. Just banking. See not they twenty five bucks for that. Pete. See at the end of that Landon Collins is about to make a lot of money at the end of that Landon Collins should be saying, oh, and by the way, I'm gonna refund you twenty five dollars. You know, what I mean like his name like all right? The next. See you something man for twenty five or at least put in there. Hey, lent. This Landon Collins. You're listening to the drive. Yes, you could play that slammed. The guards a bigger may not be a chief. But I think he's gonna try to get the more on. What's it going to be like if you reunited with special? So that's a you gotta give Landon Collins a question that he can't fishing way out of. I said would you play for Patrick Mahomes? What would be the allure of that? But again, I'm not I don't wanna see that to keep paying twenty five bucks. Everyday his I know, but he's not getting anywhere laying by the end of the week. He's going to spend an spending one hundred bucks. I think there's a really good chance. Landon Collins ends up in Kansas City. I I just look at the science the signs are there. I mean bread fee interest in them at the trade deadline's what he wants doesn't. He wasn't able to get it done. Now. He's a free agent. You have the Spagnolo connection as you said Collins best years were under Steve Spagnolo. And I I mean, why wouldn't you wanna play for a team that has an up and coming MVP twenty three twenty four year old quarterback was was to step away from the Super Bowl a defensive player away from the Super Bowl? You can make the case. Landon Collins on his team last year there in the Super Bowl. Now you had a down year, but he's the only guy in the NFL since fifteen over four hundred tackles and thirty passes defended only guy in the NFL it. He's the only safety since running Harrison back in two thousand three Dave one hundred tackles season five or five interceptions for sex big name. Yeah. I mean, he finished third to Khalil Mack. Von Miller and sixteen under spags. Like, you said, I remember the chiefs wanna won awards down there for the media thing. And there was laying than Collins weren't some fancy shoes. And you know, our guy the dirty where wolf he was talking. Leinna Collins couldn't have been a nicer guy, but he showed up like that shows like when we're that that that means a lot to the chiefs not nothing against the NFL wanna won awards, but they're not as prestigious as the regular. You know, national awards are given away at the Super Bowl, and they the players kind of have a choice whether or not they're gonna come to Kansas City for the NFL. Wanna once you make a good point? Like the fact that he was willing to come does say something about the player. It does. It says a lot that he respected the organization. He couldn't have been a nicer guy thankful to the. Chiefs and everything else, and this is voted on by national media NFL network actually shows that this thing now they don't show what they do a replay. Right. So they I think it's three our four hour event. I think it's actually coming up this weekend. And what they end up doing is they'll cut it down to one hour, and then show it later my complaint with the NFL wanna ones, and we're getting a little off topic. Here is they always tell you who wins the awards prior to. So there's really no mystery. But you do find out the one piece of news you find out. I believe it's this Saturday is who's going to be I think in the next ring of honor for next year. So you'll find that out there. Right. And then Pat Mahomes gets his team MVP award. And then Andrew Wylie the I call him the people's rookie of the year. He'll take home the McAfee hill award the Saturday. I'll never forget because I usually get into the media session, they have and I don't stay for the fancy dinner. I'm not gonna put him on bay steak on a plate the fancy food is come on. But I get the media sound never forget Chuck Lagaan was there right after the comeback against the chiefs. It he was right there. A you know as able to ask Chuck, you can go up there and ask questions those able to talk to Chuck which you say why Chuck why would you why would you crush us like this like a Devonish show up or steak? Why would you explain this one to me Pete? This is Chris Jones on Instagram with a very popular NFL player that set out last year. I want a full explanation for what the hell Chris Jones was doing a man we over here. Just talking about this free agency. A how crazy you can get mad and just out of the blue would would ill one. Oh. It's leave you on Bill and by the way, the rumors a Hindi in two hundred and sixty pounds. In fact, that is false. He's pretty good. He did look pretty good. Okay. My mind. I thought when I saw this first of all it was funny. All right Curtis. Chris Jones would lay me on. Number two. They might be working out together. Which is good for Chris Jones. I mean, I'm sure lady on bell is trying to get back into shape. Jones wants to six becky's tweeted us. So my biggest thing my biggest takeaway was I don't know if that's good enough influence a Pete. And I always like it into, you know, if you're married or have a girlfriend or whatever, and you say, we'll see your friend, Janis real wild told us her like, Johnny. She knows he's wild. And he goes out and has a good time and likes to talk to the ladies and you're going out with him. And she gets a little nervous that you're going out with him. I'm looking at this in Chris Jones is in line to get some cash in. He's talking to a guy that sat out and turn down the seventy million dollar contract. That worries me a little bit. Because what is lady on influence on a young Chris Jones that had fifteen and a half sacks. I'm not sure that's the guy. I Jones hanging out with right? I mean, I think what he would say go get the bag go get your contract. You're gone. I mean one hundred percent, I I don't necessarily think you have to worry about them. Chris Jones case because I feel like he has some good people around him, and he loves Kansas City. And I think he has a real love for football. Whereas lady, I'm bell here. He had tried the franchise tech thing. It didn't work. He didn't want to risk injury so on and so forth. He's waited a long time to be a free agent here while it would be great to assume. Okay. This video now means there's a possibility Levy on bell ends up in Kansas City. And I don't necessarily think it's zero percent. I think it's nine zero. But it's small I mean there he would be having to take a cut based upon how how how close against the cap that. She. Chiefs are and you know, I ultimately ends up. I think he ends up in a place like the New York Jets. And that's what people are saying the place that would pay a running back, and it has a space to do. So unless the view him is a conduit for Patrick Mahomes being out of the backfield. Do so many different things. Like that. Would actually be a nice piece. I know Damian Williams had a fine postseason everything else. But there is there is a talent difference. It's like I thought there was a talent difference with Kareem hunt. Dean Williams, David Williams was fine. And you look at some of his numbers they were cream hot like the cream on had over two hundred fifty rushing yards in two games against the patriots and five touchdowns. But that's the interesting thing about this off season is the chiefs are up against the cap. A we were always thinking in a world where d- Ford or Justin Houston was on this team and Eric berry was on his team. And then all of a sudden this week is happening, and you're hearing different things and rumors and so on and so forth, and you could get into a situation where it's next week in. None of those guys on the team, and then you have some room to play with. And if you extend these guys, maybe they're cap, it isn't as much and then bread vs can be as aggressive as he wants. We were never thinking that that was a possibility. And that's what's so crazy thinking about this off season a the attention. That's just on this team because they were on the doorstep of the Super Bowl and be just see surprise rumors. I don't think anyone in Kansas. City thought there was a chance that berry Houston and Ford all may not be on the nineteen roster. Speaking of rumors, Pete, you lead me riot into what I wanna talk about Ford. Houston vary who plays for the chiefs next year who doesn't will as pizza Winnie neck. Pete's Louis editor pride early cry editor cheap pattern with editor in chief. There had. Dot com from the protein off with the text line. Shout out to the cosmic ITA about drinking in the cosmic K. Or are you going space camper? Cosmic guy TA one of the things. I actually doing Pete is going to the bar the peanut after work should have said that there's no money. It should be somebody coming in from them as much as I spend there. I love the theme is Ron hugely would say you could step up, but I go, and I take a picture of a beer, it's usually a boulevard beer, Bill Graham, and I try to fool Jeremy, Dan. And this is my little game. Jeremy dinner boulevard will say name my beer and play three-strikes living, basically strike one strike too. And he gave me a tank seven once in the tank seven glass, I don't like when they do that. Because they gives it away. Right. You're you're you're playing a mystery. Yeah. But I had space camper last night. And I guess man. I guess off the top rope dinner nailed it. He's good. He's good. I I like that guy. I actually for some reason over the past year, I've really taken a liking to jam band. Have you read the jam band? It's pretty like, it's pretty good. I'm not really a big sour guy. But for some reason, I've liked it. And then I was just telling you in between the break is Carrington on his way out of hand me another boulevard beer mecca Obama's so excited to try that as good beer beer season. Well, it's only species beer cheese. Well, it's free agency season to all right? The rumors came out to Justin Houston was released or going to be released quickly refuted by the chiefs beat writers that it's not going to happen. It probably will. I mean, the cap savings on that. Where do you stand with Justin Houston will they be able to trade him? Now that everybody knows in the world. They're going to have to cut him. I can't unless they do this patriot. The patriots have a way of getting something for you. It's why they have the cap space. They do in the twelve picks this year, they might get a late round or whatever. But they have a knack for doing this with teams. So they're guaranteed to get the player in then they get picked back typically in late rounds at the package for something else. But they're the masters of doing exactly what I think the chiefs wanted. Yeah. It's starting to seem like he's not could be able to be moved and the more you explain or the more you look into I should say the situation where there was a report the other night. I think maybe that that is what kind of that. Reporter was alluding to is. There aren't a lot of suitors. And if you're gonna get a trade in this particular situation with that much cap space, it's going to have to be at least two right at least two teams are gonna have to be interested. Otherwise, you just wait until he's releasing figure out what you're gonna pay him. And I I find that, you know, team people forget to like teams could talk to each other and say, what do you what do you really think of it for this guy? You know what? I mean, the GM's are all dislike fraternity. So I think it's starting to become a situation, and it's and it's wild because of Justin Houston in the year that he had last year. But I just don't think anyone wants to take on that cap number n give up something else. And. Yeah, I I would tend to agree that the chiefs can't keep them because you know, Brett, you know, Brett VH were just talking before the break. He's either no not his guy, and he's gonna want money to play with. And the first thing in order to do that is to get rid of that number which you'll free at fourteen million whether by trade, or you know, with the cut, and I it's unfortunate, but it's going to happen. And I it's just you know, a product that the I think in a perfect world where? This is the major league baseball or or something like it. And there's no no cap may maybe he's on this team. But it's just not the case Eric berry, according to over the cap cutting Barry post June. I is a national save eight billion against the cap on June. Second a total savings of nine and a half million dollars in two thousand nineteen point eight million will be dead money against the two thousand twenty salary cap, which they would have two years to spread out that had kept money a lot like the dolphins today with over twenty million dollars within Dhamma consume. But it does create cap room. I'm not of the belief that there are very pleasant team in two thousand nineteen I don't think a a Super Bowl bound team deals with the player with a precious roster spot it's day day. I just don't see any re- dealing with that every day. Yeah. This one is weird. Because of I I look toward the combine comments of each and read, and you know, they're just kind of turning around. So yeah, he doesn't need surgery, and he'll be healthy for the next year. And it's kind of interesting because I. If if like these two guys who last year had no problem to your face telling you he's day to day the entire year if they really weren't gonna keep him on this team. I feel like they meant it might have been a little bit more. I wouldn't say secretive but hell hold their cards for their vessel. But more at the combine I think they're going forward. And again, I I'm not high percentage on berry staying in this team. But I think right now, I'm about like sixty or seventy percent. It's just a matter of like, what is happening behind the scenes, and we don't really have a picture of that. But like you saw in that article from San Melliger the other day, there's a number of years left in the contract. There's a lot of money involved that you would just be throwing away. So maybe the chiefs at the end of the day say we're to putt committed on this player. We have to see what we can get for them. I don't know the details of it. So it's hard to really have a strong take. But if I'm if I'm making one, I I don't know why there was no procedure like you've tried already rest rest didn't work do something. Because nothing you can't have what happened last year happen again. It'd be embarrassing for buried embarrassing for reading and being barrister for the organization to go through that again. And you know, no one really likes to say this better berry who's been such a a novel to the city is it was a distraction last year. It was a distraction all year. And it was I found in again, this is just me, especially after the spirit comments. And the ravens game. I found it to be like a little bit selfish. Like, I thought it took away more. So so that, you know from the and so they need to figure it out to me. I think at this point like we had talked about a few weeks ago. You hope it was maybe an injury settlement. But it seems like that can't happen. If it's if it's one sided, and so if very wants to be here, it's going to have to be cut. If they don't want him on this team, which is unfortunate. I I know there's no bad blood between the two of the chiefs are very supportive with their berry of these long term contracts working out for the Kansas City Chiefs, John Dorsey, these long term deals when you have when you cross that thirty year old Mark man, more more times than not they don't work out in the National Football League. And now, you're. Seeing it in Kansas City. I want you to hear this. This is a Brit VH with Mike Florio talking about some big contracts coming up, we'll play this, and I'll get your reaction on the other side. But isn't this? It will talk about the Ford too. Because clearly the Ford falls into this category. Think about John Dorsey in thinking about waiting on contracts the cost that she's by twenty five million dollars. Listen to what Vito has the say. And tell me if this isn't music terriers. Yeah. I mean, listen, it's on you know, it's a good thing to have great players. But also, there's there is, you know, the reality of of having a cabin and staying under that got a great staff and brand Tilson crocheted guys at work hundred apartment on. But it's funny when we drafted Pat and we start doing stuff last year with with different free agents. We before Pat even had this season we were -ticipant in him being a franchise quarterback. So there's a reason why I moved up from twenty seven to ten, and when we did that everything, you know, since when I took over it was even though we didn't start you like we're anticipating him having. Megadeal I make a contract. So we've already kind of laid the foundation in our planning for that. It's going to be challenging, and that we certain things that we have to do. But it's a good problem to have. And I think seems would want to have this type of problems. All right. Think about what he just said there. I loved every second of that sound bite Pete. The we knew we were going to have this problem coming up, meaning we're forecasting in the future. What the homes is going that that that's cap responsibility. I got a big take on this. You got a big take on us here. Pete's big take plus the Ford where will he be next year? We'll be here will s Pete necks. Everybody types how editor in chief of the verge. I host podcast every week called the verge hassle. My friends Paul Miller debone, we've got a rotating cast of characters from our entire site, which is about technology, how it impacts culture, and how that is all a big cycle that causes us to have a wide variety of feelings that you can listen to every Friday we've done over three hundred episodes in six years since avert has been around. But you only need to listen to one the latest one to get caught up on everything. In tech news virtuous is on apple podcasts. Spotify everywhere else. You listen to podcasts. Check it out. Night. Yes voice lady. I love my football. I LA baseball to look Thakin royals talking keeps you hear quite a bit of them on the station. We'll get the keys streak. Indie later on the program. But Pete Sweeney Camaro had pride dot com editor chief, by the way. They're doing parade stuff out there. Go check out the Matt lane at chief in Carolina's latest piece on free agency in little mock draft that he has as well as mad as a huge draft junkie is are the rest of the Earl had pride grew pizza. And I think three people or four people through the senior bowl this year to get hand Aram interview players Frank which always impressed me when I'm talking to crater matter can't say, no I talked to him at the senior bowl. And I love that. Because that is awesome. We have right now four people affiliated with our pride working on the draft. It's nerd squad. You know, Ken Swanson, Matt lane anything, but nerds, and we will end Craig. Out and stat will be on later with you at eight o'clock, right? And then Jake Morley stack who comes in. And he does a lot of Packer stuff. But he does chiefs draft coverage for us because he's a friend at canton. They're doing a fantastic job draft guides coming out April eighth. I'm sure you've heard about now should should again should be a fun month leading up to the Kent into to talk about that drifted right there that cut from red VH pretty much admitting. They know the homes mega-deals coming up, right? And they know the Terry kill contract is coming up, which by the way. It sounds like thirty working on it, which leads me to think what did they do with Chris Jones because we've heard those rumors either. But what do you take away Dorsey is a great guy? Great talent evaluate I get nothing bad to say about John Dorsey. But he reminds me of a guy that his wife takes his checkbook because he may be a little irresponsible or we cost the owner money. You know, you got some explaining to do Pete. But I I think that's what it came down to. I don't think it's his talent about. Hugh, Asian that was although I will say I thought he was primitive in some of the things that I saw as for as not being computerized than rent in not doing the things that you would think new age GM's do but he's doing a fantastic job in Cleveland. But they've hugiene olitical department there too in Cleveland and Dorsey probably as to work with that squad. What did you make from beaches comments about the pre planning? He's already doing. So it's interesting, right. Because you're you're starting to hear or d Ford was officially franchise tagged. And now he's getting floated out for trade. Rumors in the second rounder included. And I went on the other day to our own website. And I said, I you know, I two theories about the chiefs either have no intention of trading four. But rather I think saving the money. Meaning I think they're trying to potentially avoid a position dispute with the franchise tag. I think that's a possibility. One point seven nine understand. It's only one point seven million dollars. But one point seven million dollars is only one point seven was talking about is being defined as the linebacker or defensive offensive end. Because if defensive ends get. More money right defensive end is around seventeen linebackers around. So I say, okay, maybe what they're floating that out. So that again, so they can save the one point seven million dollars. And they're so far up against it that that makes sense. Okay. Or, you know, maybe they would actually accept the second rounder for Ford, which in my opinion, be mistake. So those are my two theories on four when I'm the point. I'm making is here we are in the outside. And we're looking at twenty nineteen we just got off the Super Bowl Ron almo- AFC title run. And we're saying, well, we'll we you know, we want everything. Now, we want everything now with that clip tells you is and I don't know if it necessarily tells you, but just reminds you is that they're not only thinking about twenty nineteen they need to be thinking about twenty twenty twenty twenty one twenty twenty two twenty twenty three. And it's not as simple, even and Eric berry. Here got a couple of years left after this and after next year. So he's thinking about how does that contract sort of fit in, you know, with the grand scheme of things, and I I look at I, you know, I look. That. Again, the the situation would afford and I painted this like we see the scribbles. But we don't know what the big blueprint is here. Like, they know they're going to have to pay Patrick Mahomes, and the reported record two hundred million dollar contracts. So everything is done with that mind. Right. So when we say, well, why the hell are they releasing d for why the hell Justin, Houston wise. Eric berry, maybe going to be gone could be all part of a plan that we're not even really seeing like, maybe it's another all defensive draft. And that's the weird thing about the off season is like you kind of China, you're trying to judge all these moves when you don't really have any idea what the grand plan is much fun. Are you having this team? So close the that close. And I know we're starting to lose pieces that were that close Houston d Ford maybe but chiefs led the NFL sex the tied Pittsburgh for fifty two but didn't get him anywhere. But the fact that they were that close a D Ford offsides to get into the Super Bowl. Now. It's just it's just about changing defensive floss Fay's was beg Nola. Is that enough is that enough? Or build this offense up where they still outscored for buddy. And just hope you can bring in thirty first ranked defense Pete the like nineteen. Man. This defense was bad. And you're telling me that you're going to get maybe get rid of Justin, Houston and deformed, and and it and somehow you're going to improve upon that. And I understand it's all new coaches. We love the all star coaching staff. We've talked about it. I do I do love it. I think Steve Spagnolo is a good batch of energy that's gonna come with really two a year of reflection to and then you gotta know that he's chomp champing at the bit to get back into the mix as for and he's probably got some new ideas. And we think it's just going to be a four three hundred. But he himself has said it's gonna be more of a hybrid again sub packages on about seventy five percent of the time. I think it's I'm hard. I'm hard pressed to be convinced that getting rid of default is is a correct move. And I understand maybe you're gonna make some splash offensive moves. Like you like say, I they add say, they add Levy bell. Right. Do you still feel good about this team? If no big moves are, no reply. Smits are made on defense. And you're getting rid of a again, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to getting rid of their berry getting rid of Justin Houston in grad of getting rid of Ford. I understand Justin Houston is a big number. But he had pretty good. Usually last year. He was still one of the best pass rushers in the league. When it came to pressures d Ford had the most pressures of anybody. So I I just worry about that. Because we made fun of the raiders all off season long all beginning of the season long because they got rid of Khalil Mack. I understand default ain't Khalil Mack. You don't have to convince me, but that would be getting like that'd be close. And we made fun of Jon Gruden will pass rushers are hard to come by sleet. Yeah. I like I wouldn't get rid of de fort de Ford created limit to me for the chiefs when he was drafted in the first round. I wasn't a fan of it. When they went debt that direction when he took the Ford, I had to convince myself overnight of why they did it and member Dorsey had a succession plan or Fisher to take over Brandon Albert, you know, learn from him then take over Sean Smith and Marcus Peters. He had he had a, and he was supposed to take over Tom Bali tumbled actually get two more contracts because the Ford wasn't ready to play into me. That was an indictment on him. Did he could learn from two of the best pass rushers in the game, just Houston and Tombaugh Lee, but he just didn't develop. He surprised them this year with the way played loses outside linebacker coach. Yeah. And has a different one come in. I I think he's surprised the chiefs and put them in this limit because I don't think they had they sold that he had this. Now, I don't know if it's a contract here thing, or what something got in the default that we haven't seen too. I mean, two points on this too is we don't even know what Spagnolo really because they were still going through evaluation process last time, he talked. We don't know what they see in D Ford. Whether he's going to be a defensive end or or they want to keep them as some type of linebacker on whatever scheme, they're they're running. And so again, I think they could be thinking about you know, where to even where he really fits. I, you know, I think there could be some truth to that. And I think you make a really good point about Mike Smith no longer being here. Because if you read that Bleacher report article fantastic, I'm forgetting who did it. Now. I wish I wish I could remember, but the Bleacher report article with when d Ford was saying about Gary Gibbs, and this was the linebackers coach previous years might both outside in right? Which is completely stupid and Ford again, I I don't necessarily know if he was making excuses in the article. But if you read the quotes it Gary Gibbs did nothing for the fort. And if you're a young player, I don't care if you one of the best college players in the SEC. Okay. If you're coming in, and you're not gonna get instruction on how to be professional or what you know. You're not going to get the coaching. Like, it's you're not gonna be able to develop. I think we even saw that with Alex Smith of the beginning of is career in like in San Francisco like so to me yet Defoe Lord had a great coach last year. But if you like this coaching staff as much as everyone says, I do I like it too. I feel like they could work with d four to make him effective. Whether that be on the edge on the line, or you know, as a linebacker, whatever they foresee in this defense, and it's a short term thing you want to ring this year. This was spec Nola in his press conference on before. And again, I felt these comments born lightly than beach talking about him or anybody else because he's very noncommittal in. I don't know if it's a whole salary cap thing defensive in line. Becker. We're not sure we're we're gonna putting, but I thought this is very very very telling by Steve Spagnolo, Andy Ford at still still kind of obsessing that. But the one thing he can do in. All no, no, this is he's an explosive football player that makes a lot of plays. He Texans the buffs in look if he's here with us. I'll be excited to have the excited to and how do you kinda see him sitting in scheme that you may rhino? He's been an outside linebacker, but he's also playing at the end of the four three college. Yeah. That'd be perfectly honest really haven't figured that out yet. Expense, myself linebacker coaches decline phones would still look to figure that out. I don't think that we're ready to put a tag on one way or the other. I don't think he meant the tag the franchise tag, tag outside or outside linebacker or defensive in. But in some ways sense like he's getting together with madhouse linebacker coach develop Aaron Donald at Pittsburgh and Brennan daily down the defensive line coach again all history was Steve Spagnolo, which that brings me the Landon Collins again because of that experience, obviously, they're big fans of nepotism. I'm not kidding about that. But the D Ford dilemma what I think he makes those comments because he was playing company man, I think that's overlooked in this. And by the way, I just want to say, Dan, Pompei was the Bleacher report article read, it if you have in Scranton of Gandhi Ford, I think that was a big I think that's a big part of this trait thing, and I don't think it's going to necessarily talked about enough one point. Seven million dollars is one point seven million dollars. If you want him to be tagged for the year is a linebacker. You have to legitimately make the case that he's not a fit in your team. If you're going to eventually make him a defensive end, that's strategy. If at the end of the day and trained in training camp, you decide okay? Now, he's going to be defensive end. You could always point back said, no, we really didn't think this was gonna work out back, then you know, as a linebacker. He this is what we want to. I mean and historically historically league will accept the tag based upon the most snaps that where the player played. But there is a history like with Terrell suggs of of a hybrid tags. And again, the chiefs are trying to do any way they can save any amount of money. I think they're they're doing right now. And I and I think that's been a little bit overlooked when it comes to this whole tag trade situation. Well, it is money time. Terry kill. I'm a big fan. Tony Dungy talked about it colts head this philosophy with manning. They would put all their eggs in one basket, meaning they'd pay two or three players a ton of money in just. Other pieces around it. They did the Cowboys headed philosophy to when they were wrecking brings. And you see this philosophy done with teams putting all your eggs in one basket Marty. We're not seeing me. Herm Edwards did say some things with the chiefs that I liked you pay a guy when the air was going up. You do not pay him when the air was going down or the euro's going sideways. Terry kill that heroes still going up. Chris Jones Eero is still going up. I can't say that when they gave berry that money that that area was still going up. I don't know. I felt like Houston was I thought the air was still going up, but he's a young guy when when they paid him and twenty two sacks twenty six years ago. I thought that I thought that that contract I had no complaints with that contract at the time. But we've just seen this with other organizations that don't want to. Edgerrin James when he's with the Colt. Great running back. They rid of rhythm. They predict draft Joseph die and win a Super Bowl. I mean. That's what teams do tyreek hill and Chris Jones. I mean, I'm looking at this. I'm saying no way. Would I want to watch this? I think tyreek hill is such a compliment. The Pat Mahomes so explosive you just can't find that kind of speed that kind of playmaker. And not only that you've got really cheap for last couple of years. It you got a lot more. Production it, and I understand from what you've done you for what you're going to do. I understand our in Kansas City, but it would be a shame. I think even for like a general NFL fan fan of any team who watches a lot of national games. You know is a crazy fan like us. Chiefs will probably be on six again this this year. I think it'd be a shame for Mahomes and hill not to play their careers together. Because the arm Mahomes has Marvin Harrison Peyton Manning thing. Similar but not exactly Mahomes has a better Mahomes has a better arm. And I just don't think there's a lot of wide receivers in the NFL. And like every wants to talk about tyreek hill speed tie kills tracking ability is elite, and when you have Mahomes, and he's running around and extending plays throwing the ball up in the air. That's why the fourth and nine worked down all the way down to fill because of Tyree kills tracking building. It would be a shame for these guys to be separated. And I think Brett feature in the personnel staff. They saw that. And they said we're going to not let this guy go. And I think it's the right move a lot of people say, you're, you know, why would you pay him this man of money again? That's just how it goes like with quarterback that a couple years. This contract will will be behind again. You know? I mean, I think that's just what you have to do when you have an elite receiver. They're hard to come by these elite type of players are hard to come by. Beach realizes that you could tell from the clip and he's paying these guys eating. I think that. Receivers are getting the catch swayed Beckham wouldn't running back L. It shoots was wide receiver. It's orders some positions Pete last year at the last twenty seconds. I took a look at it. Fourteen them first round picks four second round picks two or third round picks out of the top twenty seconds meeting. Nobody third around or beyond with was in his age is so hard replace when you put Zomba where somebody like out there to get the quarterback. That's another argument for a guy like Ford and Terry killed. They're just so exclusive at what they do. And I know tyreek hill wasn't a first round pick. Obviously, he's fit around for reasons. But. Redrafted a top five pick. No question about it. You give him to three yards of open space. It's a touchdown. He over the past three years. He's had thirty four touchdowns total. That's that's to think that there's any case that you'd want to get rid of that your line yourself or you're insane. And I understand it's gonna take a lot of money, but be smart about this. It'd be smart fan agree with the decision to end up having this record setting deal that's rumored by in Rappaport in I know, this is a simple thing to say. But it's so true. But sometimes football commu- overcomplicated pet Mahomes said not as when he first got here's a rookie. Then he reiterated the same thing last extra after the Steelers game when he said my job is to put the hand bowl names on my playmakers, and I look back, and I can't think of many times read through dead in passes, meaning the passes. He made was on. I'll never forget. Kurt Warner getting Larry FitzGerald lit up, or no, what was one blurry FitzGerald who was it. But he went Kurt Warner got one of his receivers lit up, and he felt bad about it. I never saw pet Mahomes lead receiver into a hit. It was always put the ball in the hands of my playmakers. Let them make plays very simple philosophy. But he's lived up to that. I think that's the thing. We learned about Pat moans share because we came in and said, okay, he's an accurate passer. He's a deep pasturing. I throw a lot of picks. But he's going to be like Philip rivers. Now. I mean, he's already better than Philip rivers. I think he's really football, smart and football savvy and Philip rivers is still great. But I think just Patrick Mahomes is on another level. And he is at the age twenty three he is not even hit his primary. He's his and he won't hit his prime for another three years. Just think about that. I the chaser in such a fortunate position. And it's like, it's a it's a reason why guys like tyreek hill want to stay here. And I think it's a reason why you may consider eventually Travis Kelsey as the greatest tight end in the history of the game that all comes from the quarterback. Chiefs of luck it out p. You once again lebane- right down, a segue. Eighty reads speaking to NFL network, Steve Mariucci, how do you coach player? That's one an MVP we talk. Well, we have to talk Petric homes, Nick. Can't wait here show has been say about the little video of Libyan film in crew Jones, Pete's winning. That's in view now editor in chief Earl had pride dot counter. You're burying the lead of that commercial banks in you for power our meeting here taking over the shop. Yeah. I mean, come on. I the thing is Ron has this idea and said that certain I can't produce our own high quality midday program and we intend to prove them wrong Tamar, and I'm looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to be fun. I'm looking forward to the power hour what to play this for you. This is Andy Reid with Steve Mariucci. And again, eighty read is much different than the guy that stands the front of the Cameron says OB OB LA the great team, you know, that he'd be reads much more any is actually very interesting guy in an interview. It's a lot like. Well, it's worse than that. Because then can be very surly when it's just reporters talk to him. But when Ned does interviews like when he doesn't interview every week with fiscal in the morning fantastic. Coronet does national TV just the different guy. But that's what this was a great question by mooch and on NFL network is that the combine on coaching player. That's one MVP. Andy Reid actually finds faults in Mahomes gate, believe it or not. So I try not to overcoat and ruin them. You try to play to the strengths you take his weaknesses. They might have and this offseason. This'll be great for Patrick. Well, there there little things, you know, I'm not gonna throw him out there because 'cause you'll get you'll get destroyed on. But they're, but they're he'll take these cuts that we put together he's gonna look at them and go, oh my gosh. I could have been so much better right here. You know, whether whether it's footwork or arm angle or trust in his own line in the situat-. You know, whatever it might be whatever that thing is he'll go back, and he'll look at those. And then you see another jump, and and they'll handle that the right way. Not everybody does that. Nobody handles it second year the thing that he understands it three coach in this league knows who you are. And they've got they've got an eye on you. And there's a pretty smart coaches in this league, sit there and study it and say I've got the answer right here. I've got the answer. Slow Pat moms now that he's worked me. Eighty read once again, in my opinion has a little bit of challenge on because one thing the patriots didn't at first half of that game is showed what pressure can do to one Patrick Mahomes the second half they had new set at halftime scored thirty points. And he did he put up thirty one second year with Pat Mahomes. What can we really expect Pete getting redefined himself quite really expect five thousand yards and fifty touchdowns every year? Something just struck me when I was listening to that. And again, I've been covering the chiefs now for about five years. So I got a little bit of David Kelly who was the wide receivers coach and read is very big with his coaching tree. I think everybody knows that. But one thing that stuck with me when I was covering David, Colleen, it might have been one of those days where the chiefs let you interview the assistant coaches was Kelly was just talking to a little bit about as coaching philosophy, which guess what? Because he's been with Andy Reid since nineteen ninety nine probably comes a lot from Andy Reid, and it was something as to the fact of. Yeah. These guys are pros. But I need to watch that tape of practice every day until I find something for them to work on because again at any crafts, whether it be website writing or hosting or whatever it is that you know, you guys do out there. There's always something that you can maybe do a little bit better little something that you could tweak a little bit. And again, there's been people out there, and you talk about Mike Florio. I think Chris Simms was one of them. Jeff Schwartz with Espy nation was another who said believe it or not. There were a lot of plays. The Patrick Mahomes left out on the field in twenty eighteen that is mind blowing to think about when he had five thousand yards and fifty touchdowns. But the fact that there's still room to grow and again being the age of twenty three as long as this kid, a stays healthy, and b doesn't get too cocky, and I don't I don't forsee that. But doesn't get a big head about himself. This could be in again, a holdback whatever where we're seeing the MVP or this could be the. Greatest football player we've ever seen multiple be the most challenging off-season for him. Because now he has the household name. Now, he's the one that LeBron tweets at now, he's the one those commercials. He's he's a superstar in Lee Steinberg is marketing as such waited and took his time with them. You gotta think about it. It's. Open. Now the boxes open. You gotta think about it. Because. It's hard to remember this embassy about when we were twenty three and say, you are one of the up and coming like most famous people in the country, and all of a sudden these people that you just knew were starting to greet you like LeBron James you're on commercials. You had your own logo. All of a sudden, you're the most popular person in Kansas City star George Brad. It's not even it's not even a chick close anymore. It's not even a race anymore. How he handles his second year is going to be huge. I think a lot of times you'd see the the sophomore year. A lot of people will go struggle. We'll struggle. You know comes to mind who went from a blip on the radar to famous and struggled with it as Kareem hunt hit a rushing title. And all of a sudden he's going to these basketball games. You see him out in the open. He's kind of embracing himself as a superstar, and he couldn't handle it. It's going to be huge. I happen to think that he's got a great head about him from being around him. And I don't think he's going to struggle with that. But again, remember he's twenty three years old. So they're always that question. Great stuff. That's Pete Sweeney chicken on the podcast page on demand will put put. Put it up there right away. Kitsch Pete's fine. Work at Arrowhead pride dot com. And again, Pete Sweeney the power hour, Stephen Certa tomorrow at twelve thirty. I'm looking forward to that. But Pete always appreciate what all you guys. Do it Arrowhead pride dot com. Gives a great it will talk to Craig stout from head pride dot com at eight. But I really appreciate you coming in. 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The 75O: Safety help, free agency continues, and tight end talk

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The 75O: Safety help, free agency continues, and tight end talk

"Hey listeners we're in the heat of one of the greatest sports events of the year. You guessed it March madness. And the best place to stay on top of all the NCAA tournament. Coverage CBS sports HQ, what is CBS forte JR. Q. It is the free twenty four hour sports network. That's built for fans just like you from nonstop highlights. News and analysis CBS sports HQ got you covered checkout. CBS sports HQ. It is always on always free not to pay a subscription fee or have an expensive cable package. Download the CBS sports app on your phone fire TV Roku or apple TV start watching today. Welcome back to the seven five. Oh, I am your RJ showing is your seven five Mr. two times Super Bowl champion college football hall of Famer the one the only I'm sure he watched something fantastic on Netflix over the weekend. Tony cassia Stony. How you doing? I'm doing great, man. A great weekend had a chance to watch your San Antonio commandos. Oh, yeah. Play this weekend. And just a crazy finish. I had to get my break. Give myself a break from my bracket because it was kind of disarray at that time, but I turned on to turn the channel. And my guess what finished so props to the San Antonio commandos for was a Salt Lake City Salt Lake they call the ban. They they I don't know why. But they call themselves the the great north. That's what the in Salt Lake, and I just feel like there's a lot of stuff north of you thinking Alaska when I think of the great. It was. But it was a great game as a fun time at Alamodome two more home games in a row for the commanders Janis coming to town next weekend. He did have his alliance debut on Sunday night got in the game for a bit. That was a good game to it was a good good week. In sports. You mentioned your bracket. It was the opening rounds of the incidentally tournament we are now at the Sweet Sixteen Tony how many teams do you have a live well jumped from forty seven percent job forty seven percents sixty seven percent. So. Yeah. It is. And I talked before we start up podcast my son for some reason. I don't know how I did it obviously smarter than I am in his handicap is a lot better that ninety eight point seven percent now. So I'm not one of those dudes it really, you know, I went all chock. I went with the the first in the in the first round, which I probably should have known better. But hey, Al making somewhat of a comeback. So we'll see in this final six. I think I I think I've thirteen out of sixteen in my in my Sweet Sixteen thanks. Yeah. Some bad. I have fourteen I missed on Kansas state in cans. So the state of Kansas really just letting me down overall, I know, our friend are attempting was really bummed his jayhawks lose I had to sit with our bombs seem Oklahoma Sooners lose I had I had to sit with Ari last year at the final four and San Antonio. And watch him watch his jayhawks get smoked by Villanova. That was not a good day to be around him. But yeah, the Sooners lost. You know, it is weird without Kansas Duke almost lost. What'd you think of taco fall? You think you could be a better pass rusher than taco Charleston. He get definitely article. That's for sure I mean. And here's the thing about him. He's so tall almost gets in the way. And I think when I watched the internet game, and there's a couple of flat files, it could have gone either way. But it's when you're that bit with that tall. It's really just hard to get out of the way when someone's trying to go to the rim, but when when's on Williamson when he missed that free when he missed that free throw. And then when they got the rebound offense. Rebound scored I'm thinking. Okay. Here we go there's going to pull it out. And even at the very end, it was just one little role. I mean, they get the rebound. And they you know, he taps it up and it hits the back of the window and misses the rim by dismissed. Oh, yeah. That was one of those games. It was really good rich. And that was really, and you mentioned that it was the game thus far meters have been a couple of. But some you know, these games have made a little bit more really had that March madness moment. Yeah. You had the. Iowa Tennessee game was kind of interesting Greg game. The LSU game was kind of interesting as well. But still it. We haven't gotten one that's felt like the tournament. Yeah. I mean, there have been some interesting ones. But but nothing really just super juicy. So far, you mentioned that what a shattered every. Who was swan little smidge away from shattered and everyone's bracket. Well, who's your winner? I got North Carolina. Okay. So you would you actually kinda rooting for that get everybody else's bracket out. The way is -actly. I see that is I've got Duke. But I was kinda rooting for the set to just because at that point you kind of had to root for there was so great. No so much fun. You mentioned the miss tip in at the end. But the missed layup earlier, I mean, like a full mini on the game clock that was you could just tell right then when they whipped on that that something was going to go against someone the game was over. Hopefully, we get some some better times next weekend. We're getting closer to the masters. Lots of fun things you and I told me we're talking on Monday. We are officially one month away from the NFL draft. So the tide is turning things are things we're getting spring afraid. Guide. And so all of this was going on over the weekend. And you mentioned the commanders. I was working the game for the SPN San Antonio. And I was doing a million things and all of a sudden boom on a Saturday night. The Dallas Cowboys get their safety. Dallas Cowboys signed George loca who spent the last year with the Minnesota Vikings and every season NFL career before that with this insanity. Bangles he officially has joined the Cowboys. What are your thoughts? Well, I know he's big statue six four hundred twenty five pounds drafted in twenty twelve by Cincinnati Bengals. I think there was some familiar Laryea with him when he was a Minnesota with. Mike Zimmer being the former defensive coordinator. Now the head coach of Minnesota. I don't I don't know how to view this. I think it's I think is probably a safe bet for them. Add add some add some depth to the really I think really kind of a deep. I would say back in for safety's not really any player that really sticks out. But I think he kind of solidifies that back in. If you look at statistics over the years, he's he's been pretty I would say average and his is a good tackler open field. So I think that for him. He seems pretty smart. And when you when you go back and look at it. I think I think you and I both had to do the same thing. Do a little research on them. And see what you know, what type of player was. But I did notice that are that. He is more of a consistent guy knows. He doesn't really get beat with a deep ball, which is kind of a good knack for someone is playing that position. But I think it's good. I think it's a good. If I had to get the Cowboys a great on this. I'd give him just for being say, you know, being safe and bring someone in with has some, you know, some veteran experience, I I would probably give him. I don't know. C B minus something like that. It's like it's definitely going to help the roster. Yeah. You mentioned giving them a grade. We put out a poll on the site on the post. I wrote this up just announcing the news. And we said just great ABC, whatever. And be was kind of overwhelming favourite percent is what it is. And it's just it is kind of that. It's just kind of whole home. You know what I mean? That's how they are before we dive in on on I locus specifically I will say that it's kind of just their MO with all their free agents when the off season started they had I don't want to call them glaring holes. But they had needs at a handful of positions, and you can always try to get better whatever, but the the biggest positions of need or safety tied. Hidden slot receiver defensive tackle without question. Those are the top four you could rank them. However you wanted into Cowboys they went and got Randall Cobb. They got a slot receiver. Beasley they went and got their defensive tackle the got Christian Covington they went and got their tight end all albeit in some shocking fashion by bringing Jason Witten out of retirement, and they went and got their safety in Georgia Luca all four of those dudes are like the same guy at their position. You know, what I mean there be minus whatever moves that give you safety to give you depth and that gives you flexibility with the fifty eighth overall pick. Because now they've got local they've got called. They've got whatever. So when the fifty th pick it's turned in the Cowboys can go any number of direction because they haven't pigeonhole themselves into one specific thing. You know, what I mean, if you're looking at just pure name and brand obviously Jason wooden, and that's he's given. But but Randall Cobb you look at this name along and what he's done and disavow experience I had to give him above average grade. But the one single Chris Covington again, that's a name that we brought up a couple of weeks ago. I think it that. Maybe that may be something there that adds a little I I know it's going to create some debt the guy's a big. And we talked about that. But George, I I really think again, you cannot get enough depth at a position at times has really been up and down exhibited would say have Jeff Heaton and Kate. Frazier cave on got married over the weekend too. By the way. Oh, he did. Oh, well, well, let me legs might be a little heavy going into. Although you didn't get married a couple of weeks ago. You feel any different I do. But I don't have to play safety for the Dallas Cowboys, that's the difference. 'cause I always interesting because it's been so long ago since I got married. So I was so I think it may I ask you this before when you know, when you got married and we're on during the show what's different about being being married now. Honestly, nothing. I mean, not anything that we moved into our house if you months ago, and so. We've been domesticated. Okay. Wow. Okay. I will say, you know, it's taken some time to. That that is a little I type slower or you're still on your honeymoon phase, wait till you you're three years into and I'll ask you that back to cave on good for him. I always thought that here. The thing about guys who being relationships. It does brings you very brings you some structure in your life. You know, and I know guys who different. But I always thought that that was good for certain guys. But but anyways back to the debt whether you're married or not married, it really if you look at again, you look at George loca adding him to the mix it's only gonna crate, you know, depth at that position. But overall again and back to the point about name-brand and everything else, I think again, we we we don't want to jump to like, hey, every team has gotta make decision to just get things done and spend money. But at this point right now, I think it's been very methodical for the Cowboys. They'd taken surprise that. We're just not going to go out there and just. Science a month because we have a little money which nineteen million or whatever that's what they were going into free agency. We're going to be patient and Despic what we need. And I think right now, you gotta be pretty pleased with what the Cowboys had done so far. Yeah. It what it feels like to me is. You know, how sometimes you're like man, I really feel like a water, and I feel like a pizza whatever. And you feel like you. You wanna go? I wanna get some wings, whatever. Because that food sounds really awesome in the moment. But you know, like men, you know, we've got some leftover Meatloaf from last night. You know what I mean? Like, man, we got we got leftover spaghetti from the other day. Like, man. The fridge is full. You know, we made a whole bunch of a chicken fingers today. Whatever like I need to eat the leftovers. And again, I'm not saying these guys all those leftovers. You just mentioned, hey, they're going to take precedent over frigging water, or whatever mentioned white castles. Because to me the best Waterberg I ever had is after eleven pm. That's true. That's a different thing. But that's kind of what it feels like I understand. I like like when you want to buy something or whatever if food or whatever. But you know, like, oh, I've got this. You know, what I mean like, I don't need to do that. Because something that you think is going to taste better than the leaving the leftovers, and it tastes better than what you would go out and spend money. I totally understand. It's a conservative minded approach. And I get that it's frustrating. But they were smart did they get a little lucky? Maybe that Georgia local lasted that long Randall Cobb last as long as you did that Jason Witten wanted to come out of the booth down. I think there's a little luck involved. I think everybody got a little lucky I think, you know, every NFL team caught a bit of that. So I it solid. They have they have depth, which is what you want when it comes to I locus specifically did not play a lot of snaps last year for the Minnesota Vikings. But pro football focus did grade his one hundred seventeen. Snaps. Played tackling grade of eighty seven and a half a run defense grade of seventy five point seven and an overall grade of sixty eight so not again, not a not a water burger that's going to blow wind up your skirt, but reliable, and you know, didn't play a lot last year. So I wonder if the fact that he didn't play a lot last year makes him say, you know, what I want to go somewhere where I'm gonna play the cops have a need, etc. Etc. But him paired with your woods. I think is an upgrade as much as I love, Jeff. I think he's a really good downhill tackler. And I think the statistic that you just read as far as tackling open-field. There's guys that can do it in some guys can't in those different safeties. It can reversal can can you tackle in cover, obviously. But there's not too many of them around oral Thomas for one, but there's certain guys did certain things differently. And I like that I really think that it's it adds a different type of balance to what they already have. Because I think a lot of games when you look at the mistake -als, and I think we've seen that last year, and we can we can have fun with Jeff heath, and there is those moments city ad and we felt bad for him. Because let's face it. I mean playing NASA football league, if you haven't been embarrassed if you times, and you haven't played I mean, we've all been there done that. But I think when you look at. Okay. His Optima attack on open field. Maybe maybe not going to be the best ball hawk type of guy. But he's got a lot of range. I mean, he's six four two hundred and twenty five pounds. He's a very range in long player, which I think to him to help helps in with his range when it comes to plan in the back end that is something that's valuable. I mean, he's he's a conservative player. He he's not going to get burned. He's not going to get beat. I don't know. That's a good point. You're not getting burned out is essential. But you have your, you know. Your ball. Hawking secondary players your ball, hawking DB's that are gonna take chances. And and he's not that guy. He's going to sit back, and he's gonna make sure that it keeps everything in front of him. And you know, I mean that's the kind of defense Cowboys wanna play and if you've got a legitimate pass rush, and they should. Although that is certainly influx right now, you can play that way. And I think that if you're gonna let anybody be that Romer, let it be woods. Keep local back there. He's your final, you know, stand. That's why he's a safety and you'll let your woods have fun play centerfield and love is going to stop everything that gets passed him or how about this. Or Jay is it a nice if the guy is is that physical. I mean, look adding this looming back there in the only that he's going to knock your head off. What's not nice from me? But yeah, it's it's nice to know. It's there. So let's. Just painting a scenario if you, but anyway, it's kinda nice to know that some dude that he's back their physical presence that he's you're not gonna he's not going to be unnoticed. It's conservative thing. And a lot of ways a the way the Cowboys went about getting this is conservative be. He's a conservative player in terms of his own specific style. See, look, what it be awesome. And what we have a great time. If the Cowboys had landed all Thomas, definitely we would go crazy if the Cowboys still managed to pull off Eric berry. Would we say it was greatest move of all time? Probably but I- loca is a more reliable more conservative player than either of those two safeties since two thousand and fourteen Tony which is the last five seasons. Eric berry has played in forty one games. That's four one in eighty possible games are all Thomas has played in sixty one games across this entire span. And Georgia loca has played in seventy. Six games over the last five years now, a very quick note because I tweeted this out, and I got a lot of backlash people saying dude, Eric berry was fighting cancer. And we all know about Eric's, heroic and valiant battle. But again, I'm not at all trying to you know, put that down by any means, but Eric berry was diagnosed in December of two thousand fourteen he did miss the rest of that season. But he came back for the two thousand fifteen season. And he started every game in two thousand fifteen and every game in two thousand sixteen. He's only played in three games over the last two seasons. And while again, Eric berry is a survivor and should be complemented in every way for that the last two seasons. He did not miss any games related to that. It was due to an achilles heel injury. So I mean in the world of injuries. I locate is a more, you know, safer option just because of their history. Well, he's more door without a doubt. And regardless of its, unfortunately cancer to blown. Jio is viewed in the business. Football's is injury without a doubt downplay of whatever he's battling cancer me. Yeah. It's a horrible disease. But he had to look at the business aspect of it. And I think you brought up a good point and not to over analyze what they've decided to do as far as bringing George loca and. It depends on what you know what he's going to bring to the team. And I think that that's valuation. It goes on all the process of bringing in the free agent. Look, let's see what we have. And that's at him into what we already have. So one year deal. He's just going to add that to it. And let's see what he can do during training camp and OTA's and kind of get a different vibe. But what what you know, avaiable what he does and doesn't do an endless adamant a mix and training camp. And this way Shen and see where he fits in. Because again, just because I brought him in as a free agent doesn't necessarily mean he may be on a roster. I mean, some of the guys that they already had Jeff he. I'm just going out on a limb. I'm. Well, maybe not that. But I think Jeff heath is is still a viable backup guy. Now. Here's the thing about it different. I think I mentioned this on our show before he reminds me of my Bill bait absolute Bill Bates was played in the football landscape whenever special teams as really really. Was identified. It was a role. Now, it's kinda changed. But Bill wasn't he played on a nickel? And he was he's a he was a hitter, but he wasn't going to get interceptions. He was going to be this great safety and coverage, but his role was more non for special teams minds me. Jeff, Pete, minus the role on special teams at that makes sense. I've said before just in the way fans perceived the players, I'm not saying that Jeff heat is on Bill Bates is level. But he he lives in that neighborhood. You know in that neighborhood Bill Bates has the biggest house with the biggest yard. And he has the best Christmas light display every season. Jeff, he's might be the first house when you first turned into that neighborhood. But that's that's where he is in Cowboys lore. He's just beloved. And he's this grinder gritty guy that has really fought his way onto the team. He doesn't fit any other archetype other than the Bill Bates one and he incidentally, plays a similar role. And now, I think that this frees him up. To be able to go do that. Because now he doesn't have to be you're starting safety. Now, he can be your specialized special teams player. Your emergency kicker. Just your overall goat level player. So I think that's a good thing. I think it works out because you let him concentrate on is he on elite safety. No. But he is an elite special teams player. So you let him concentrate on that and leave the safety aspect of to somebody else. Yeah. I think that's a good point. Again, the the role that you play and discount on Jeff heath is that you know, how much do you want to count on him? How much how many reps? Do you want to give him during the football game? And you know, how many plays production, and again, you know, the whole special teams there is not enough enough emphasis, I think it's overlooked by lot of fans and a lot of people what they do on the specialist teams that side of the ball. And if he can continue to build to focus on that because the numbers and everything now with with modern day football's kind of change a little bit in the rules have been. Changed? And so maybe not as important as it. Once was not to say that special teams isn't because it is. I mean, you got you got to be good off as is. But you can kind of get away with those type of old old school days sheriff so overall a good signing a Cup of tea at night when you've got a sore throat. That's what the Georgia voca thinness. Do you put lemon in or do you just go with the teabags? I like teabags. Okay. But no, lemon lemon. I like. I really I like the green tea more more of a I. I don't you know. I am told you this coffee jonky. I mean that's caffeine. That's that's what I drink in the morning. So I think tea is more like when a film under the weather. That's what I'm saying. Like late at night talking like eight o'clock, you got a bit of a scratchy throat, you don't get a Cup of tea then. I do that natural remedy is that when you put the what the not the whiskey, but something they oughta Palmer I like to honor Ana Palmer version of that. Okay. Okay. Wow. That's took a little bit of a turn. But a good turn. I like it. Some big NFL news happened on Sunday. Tony. Not pertaining to the Cowboys. But still interesting at the very least rob gronkowski been rumored for a long time that he was considering it. He finally announced that he is retiring he's about to be thirty years old played nine seasons in the NFL four-time all pro first team all pro at three times Super Bowl champion. One of the more decorated careers in NFL history was part of the patriots. You know at the time when gronk start out they were obviously, very good and had had the first three Super Bowls. But he was part of the crew that put them over the top that made them kind of the team of this era. Once again, I mean, there aren't enough words or, you know, a war is you can give the guy, but his retirement has brought up a question is he the greatest man who is it is it another guy named Tony? I thought I thought about this. I thought about four of because I think blogging the boys in I guess, you know, obviously, something was training this morning, but they did a poll who you know, who's the four greatest tight ends or who's the greatest one out of town against Alice. I believe it's Kellen Winslow. That's right. Original the regional Kelly now senior senior senior. Yeah. So I want to do Google junior. Oh, no, no in Jason Witten. Honesty, rob gronkowski. So I started thinking about this now all those guys Kelman's those in hall of fame. Obviously Tony Gonzales got into the hall of fame last year. First ballot. Jason win decides that he wants to retire. He's he's a first ballot hall of Famer and in rob gronkowski. Without a doubt is the first ballot hall of fame. Now, who's the best out of four of those guys? And I don't think it's fair to look at the statistics specially with gronkowski's they only twenty nine years old only played nine years in the National Football League. And I don't have any this is purely just my my research in my mind times football, which is which is kind of scary because I'm not looking at any statistics or anything. But I do know that Jason went and has what twelve thousand receiving yards. I think he's just shy of twelve five hundred. Okay. Well, some change in rob gronkowski has what six or seven thousand right now grimy as far as receiving yards. Gronk is sitting at the moment because he did flirt with the idea of potentially coming back gronk has. Seventy eight hundred yards. Okay. So my point is is that you can't really compare it. Because Jason Whitten's almost played seemed like almost twice as long as he has. We'll Jason play fifteen he played nine. So there you go with the. The the knowledge with that. And then Kellen Winslow, we all know, some people don't remember killings Winslow. He's a tremendous player. Didn't Tony Gonzalez? Now, look at here's the tangible thing in my why I'm weighing in on this as the greatest of all time, and I hate to do this because it happens all the time. We do it the quarterbacks I think, you know, where I'm going with this the rain how many rings is the other four other three guys have one. And how important was rob gronkowski to someone like Tom Brady to that franchise in the versatility? Now, rob gronkowski the problem with him. And again, I don't he's he's a lot of games do they injury. And so you factor that in instill his impact he's made if I had to pick on just nine years of service in the National Football League, and what he's done in his resume the three rings and everything else and just a charm. And who he is. I mean, the guys I'm I think everyone's going to miss this is personality. I mean, he's just to do that you want to go out. Hang have a beer with. I'd have to go rob gronkowski. Then I'd have to go with Tony Gonzalez. And then. Well, maybe I'll put I'll go I'll go Jason Witten. Number two. Tony Gonzalez three and then Kellen Winslow number four. But I gotta go with rob just because he's got the hardware, and this is packed. He's made to that franchise. And the fact he's been healthy and hasn't had all the resume of games that people like Gonzales, and and Kellen Winslow to me. That's who that's who. I pick right now. I had a now I should say that I believe somebody is going to use the the Super Bowl Super Bowl fifty one patriots falcons against rob. Because the patriots found a way to get that done while he missed that game. So they're going to say good point. That's one thing. But I look last year you think without rob gronkowski. They wouldn't build the thing about the impact he made especially in the game against the Rams, and then the playoff game before that in the AFC championship totally agreed and Cowboys fans. The wanted at least some still want. Eric berry gronk had a huge play over Eric berry in the AFC championship. So while he did miss that Super Bowl gronk is is my answer. I don't think so Jason Witten people love to say is the most complete tight end of all time. I think that's very fair. But we've seen that that we've seen a lot of complete tight ends. Maybe nobody's been as good as Jason. But we have seen that we had never seen anything like Brock. I know Tony Gonzalez was certainly vertical that in and could get in the end zone to a great degree. But we had never seen. Somebody who could you know, the whole stadium knows it's going to him plays tight end and just dominate whoever. He's playing. He's a freak. And I think that you know, you look it's a shorter career, obviously. But the most impressive thing to me and touchdowns. Do not matter as a whole touchdowns are not the most important thing gronk has more touchdowns than than I started this conversation on Twitter because I tweeted a gronk was the best of all time. And all these Cowboys fans, you know, and I love win. But wins the best wins. If gronk is not the best. I think it's toning dollars. I don't think witness second for me and gronk has more touchdowns than Whitten and he has played in six less seasons. His eleven more touchdowns and six last season. Yeah. That's that's a real. That's impressive. Thank about. I mean, it really is absurd. He does anything about it. He doesn't have to play that loan to be considered the greatest of all time. That's the the most. It's more press. When you look at it that way because in the point of him lining up against someone like Eric berry. They split gronkowski. All the way out. It's like, okay. Guess everybody in the stadium watching it who's a bog onto it's an alleyoop. It's you know, they're going to post up. It's at fifty fifty ball taco, guess what? The dude will be able to make the catch you six six. He runs fast. And he's got that gnarly embrace the brace on it. Like, I was looking like how the hell does he make some of those catches all those restrictions. And yet he still is big as dude is. And that's what I've heard about about Grahn gronkowski playing against it. Now that the hill is he's a he's a low when it comes to blocking. He's no one really never gets the number talks about is blocking. We all get mesmerized all the yards and the catches and everything else that goes along with that. There's a hell of a blocking tight and he's maybe the best blocking tight end of. Time. And again, I understand that people love Jason Witten. But gronk is just that elite. I mean, he really did. And you're right. I think the personality thing is that. I know you're not saying that. But that's not what makes him better than me. But he is he's a huge chapter in NFL history. Just because of his game and his personality and the gronk spike in whatever I mean, he and I think it is important to note that do the patriots win all three of their recent Super Bowls without him. Because I don't think they do. I mean, Tom Brady has now outlasted rob gronkowski along with a gazillion other players, but gronk was the difference in so many ways in Super Bowl for nine against the Seahawks and the Super Bowl fifty three against the Rams. He had to play against the Rams late in the game. That's been floating around and all the highlights. I mean, he to a degree. I think Randy moss was the first guy that that re elevated Tom Brady and made him this because before two thousand seven Tom Brady was not this fantasy quarterback. Randy moss. In west Walker Donte stallworth come in, and they really changed, but they left and gronk came in and re the lit that portion of Brady I'm not trying to say gronk obeyed Brady better. I made each other better. I think that gronk made the patriots offense on stoppable at times. And it happened to be run by the greatest quarterback of all time. And isn't that just the legacy of Tom Brady think about that with him playing? He's almost four forty two years old and the outlasted rob gronkowski, which is twenty nine years old, and he's still playing and you know to your point about both those guys making each other better. And the fact that the times without gronkowski, you think about well, they have no chance well as long as they had Tom Brady, but still gronkowski without a doubt. I think he's a dynamic player. He's a rare breed. Yeah. River of athleticism for dude that that big. And is I mentioned is a full package. He can block. He can knock your ass off the ball. Then guess what he can go over the top of your head. And make one of those beautiful catches at a wide receiver can. And I just think is full body will work to me when I think about what he's done in a short period of time nine years NASA football league. I mean, he's got to be considered the greatest of all time without a doubt. I think in the because we are blog on the boys in the discussion of gronk versus witin. The only thing that I can indestructible give Witten over gronk is longevity. He's been able to sustain his entire his health throughout his entire career. That is a huge skill. I mean, some of it is is luck. And some of it is just the composition of your body. From a on the field perspective. I think that gronk can do everything they win can do. I do not think let me ask you this RJ is that is that a is that the result of using ground differently than Jason Witten has been used Jason wouldn't Jason wouldn't in look, they're both Cray. I mean, they're both unbelievable players without a doubt. Yeah. I mean, it's not that. I mean. Who says exactly he doesn't make one trash to say? Why guys both hall of famers? If you should Jason was a great soul time or Tony Gonzalez, which I'm with you. Tony Gonzales is just some of the things he's done. But this thing about it gronkowski has been asked. They used him differently. Totally when you look at Jason he's more the inside kind of the inside the perimeter of the tackle box. If you will the middle of the Phil. And really he's not used like gone Caskey is in the patriots offense because they don't have anyone else. They can do would with gronkowski can do athletically. Now, I think that's fair. I think that you know, Timmy's more I was gonna say I was going to say Jason more like Tim Duncan. That's I said TIMMY, like, he's your grinded out middle inside the paint guide. It's going to get work done. But gronk is like your high flying Vince Carter team USA dunk. You know what I mean? They're just always happening. But are you can do both inside and go outside. And and that's that's what. Gronk can do everything that wouldn't can do. But win cannot do everything they can do and even as far as how they're used. There's no way wouldn't makes and wouldn't make some incredible catches. But I don't think he can do the same thing. I think it's a fair point in terms of how they will use like they both. They're both sports cars but one team race there's every weekend and the other team bought one of those huge bubbles. You know what I mean that you put ours? And so they argues differently. You can always wonder what if they'd been in different places. But I mean, it is only nine years but gronk is is just he's unreal. He's he's the goat in my mind. It's not unfair to us the rings as part of his resume and and doing your evaluation who's the best of all time. You cannot do it to quarterback so many times but round Caskey for what he's done and look at the other the other the other players were were comparing him to it's hard to take away. What that hardware what he's done in a -ccomplish, and that's got to be in the mix and the valuation. We didn't even mention Kellen Winslow. I do think to give him some love of all these four. He has the greatest game of all time. The game in Miami. That that's the greatest game titans ever played. He was a rare breed. He was you know, he was kind of the he was tied him before its time. Really really wants you play twenty five years later. I think he said it's a whole different batch of record. And he was kind of the Lucien of that whole deal about a big man band. Do make catches and utilizing that tied imposition. Kind of like Tonio gates is done in San Diego. I'm sorry. They LA LA chargers. Now the last thing on gronk because so many people will do this. How much do you maybe take away from whatever goat -ness of his that? He played with Brady. I mean because that's people are gonna say, oh, well, if he had played with Romo like witne Dato, he played with, you know, whoever. I mean, he wouldn't have been his great does it at all ding him in your mind that he happened to play with the greatest quarterback of all time. No, right. Had to make he still had to make the catches. And some of the catch is that he may were pretty extraordinary. Yeah. Disco back in look, you know, this is blogging the boys and it's Cowboys content. And that's what we talk about. But do yourself a favor. Just go back and look at gronkowski's catches, not all the balls are. I mean, we're on the money every time and. Again. That's what we that's the measurable part. If we're going to allow again, and they go back to the quarterback because only use the measurable when it comes to evaluate. And how many how many playoff wins Romo have you ever go the Super Bowl ever go? The NFC championship is easy a hall of Famer because of that probably not right? A ring of honor God. But he's not he's not a hall of fame. I think we can probably arguments agree with that. Correct. That's fair. So it's the same way with with with gronkowski. He does two guys thrive. They made each other better without Batman without Batman, Robin. There wouldn't be arrived without Robin in the Batman at times. Obviously Tom Brady mean he's a tremendous player but three of those rings without gronkowski. He wouldn't have gotten, you know. So much is made about this patriots streak of playing in the AFC championship game. That began rob gronkowski sophomore year in New England. So in eight of his nine seasons. The patriots made the AFC championship game, though, the worst they finished was the AFC championship. We think about that. They talk about playing for nine years and in eight of them you go to the conference title game. That's all it is. And I mean think about it doesn't make retirement a little easier because I thank you know, gronkowski. He's sounds to me that he's pretty smart with what he's done with his money. And you know, I think he just listened to his body. He's thinking as you just mentioned is nine years in the national in the National Football League playoffs. Eight times has got three Raines and he's made he's made made a ton of money. He's Dayton supermodel four. Sports illustrated. They'll be live is good for gone Caskey. Yeah. Go. Yeah. So this me do me favor. Take take your off maybe cooled in the broadcasting. But when you get tired of that come back and play for the Cowboys. I I don't know that gronk will be broadcaster. Know if you haven't seen the entourage movie. I I live in die by entourage. But he is fantastic in the entourage. And if he had a broken arm when they filmed it, and it was just so good. And so great no last year a couple of years ago. He thought he can I guess you consulted was they may consult with the rocker. He was wanted maybe get into movies and be an actor. So I definitely follow that he could see like a billion billion at the rock is great. But if we flipped the rock and gronk in the Jumanji movie, it'll be just as awesome. Wouldn't it? It would be just animation character. Exactly. It'd be awesome. He's going to have a serial he's going to have video games. He's going to be everywhere and good for gronk good for the group for a lot alive. I got a lot of respect best of luck to him. Got it doesn't matter who your who your faithful to Cowboys patriots in as I mentioned, this is blogging, boys. But you gotta give the dude great players respect. Especially if they're good dues like gronkowski is no doubt. So that about does it Tony for Monday's episode of the oh, we'll be back later in the week. We did kind of call that maybe the Cobb would get to safety. So I'll put you on the spot as we get outta here. Do the Cowboys trade for Robert Quinn before our next episode? No, I I agree with you. I wish I didn't. But it doesn't it looks kinda bleak right now. It does it's a little quiet. So hopefully things pick up weeks three or free agency. This is there's some tumbleweeds. You know what I mean? You know what I'm thinking? I'm thinking go has some hot tea. Do it get some hot tea? There's some whiskey in there and early for that it's not after five now in whenever it happens take it from me. So that does it for us. You guys have a great week. We'll talk to you. Later on it. This was the seven five oh. My name is Spencer home by name is Jason Kurt. My name is Ryan nanny. We combine. 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"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host, Jenny Taft. This podcast is the full show. From today's episode of undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate. So skip Shannon. Let's get to it. Welcomed undisputed. We are live from Los Angeles Jenny tap to skip Bayless, Shannon Sharpe. How doing choose to you thought. It was safe to ridicule my seven Tonio birth back, Shannon. You'll they come shin. Oh, are they? Guatemalan? Did he play last night? No to disperse play last night to Golden State plant the Spurs last night. Hey, low, we got this. We look like Jackie old going. Thank you, Shannon. Jackie O distract against what he wants to talk about. There you go. Get it. Go get it for at the box. Let's talk Cowboys. Good day on this show. Is it time to jump on the Spurs bandwagon to this guy? Maybe and then there's a very interesting name popping up to be LeBron's neck. Oh, let hear what she has to say. Well, let's start with other favorite team the Cowboys. They have been very quiet so far in free agency. But it could pick up today when safety Eric berry is expected to visit the five time pro bowler was released by the chiefs last week. And he's only played three games in the last seasons. Dallas also has some big money decisions coming up with their star players pro football talks, Mike, Florio said Zeki Elliott should consider holding out and do whatever he has to do to get paid Zeke still has two years left on his current deal and Steven Jones told Sports Illustrated that the team has to quote, get super creative to sign their players. He mentioned Zeke Dak DeMarcus Lawrence Amari Cooper and the young linebacker. So shannon. Are you optimistic about the cowboy strategy? Birth things. I Eric berry coming in. Could he be upgrade shore the question that they're going to have to ask themselves? And I think they kind of know the answer to this Kenny stay healthy. Ginny read out of a possible thirty two games in the last two years. He's only play. He's he's missed twenty eight or twenty nine of those games. So three games over the last two years. He's not getting younger and he's coming off an achilles injury. And the heel injury, which was probably caused by the achilles injury Zo high will will he be able to run because get when we saw him last all him healthy. We saw the job that he did or rob gronkowski on opening Thursday. Sure. That by the been the greatest performance by safety against grop that we've seen very very long time. But this that time because he ended up getting injured in that game. He's never been the same before been saying after that. So will he ever be the same and he realizes this? It's probably his last payday the cowboy. Looking at it will we willing to work with a little bit? But going to make this contract incentive laid, we don't want to give you the lion. Share this money in guaranteed money giving your injury history. So I think that's what he's going to have to like, okay. What am I willing to take an M I healthy? And can I get you know thousand one hundred thousand dollars every game that I'm on the active roster. Yeah. Now, Jenny it what you really really want to talk about. Now, it has Bayless, you know, why because they wanna get paid paid in capital P A D that over there. I got lots of you got nothing divall million. If you've got to be you. Oh, what's it gonna what I don't have it? But they do first of all the all that. So what you got for Mari. And that scares the thing it's simple as this. You got back Amar meal. Byron Jones DeMarcus Lawrence all set to be free agents at the season DeMarcus Lawrence looking like this. Okay. He just got franchised again, this you laugh us branch out at seventeen this year, twenty and a half. Now, he's sitting by looking in. This is the thing that hurts guy that that's on the team that get French out of the transition. They look at a guy like trae plows Detroit just play trae flower like JJ watt did DaMarcus hold on wait a minute. I just wanted to back to back pro bowls. I'm I team all pro last sixteen and a half. I think if I gave what tens digit this year in and out need long-term money Z agree with my Florio. He should hold out because this I do running backs. Most of the time. If you first round draft pick. They you make you play all those oboe years give then they pick up Archie in the six year. They franchiser in the seven year their franchise in the U. Yup. And now you're gone if I'm not gonna do me like that. You saw what they did tomorrow Murray. Twenty fourteen led the league in rushing. Bam. Bam bam. Bam. Bam you run and over have the right? And that was sort of the end of demont that was that was sort of the end of the Mark. And so you look at like that like hold on, wait a minute. And now you got that Dag is looking at it like skip. Did they just give me foles fifty million guarantee for thirteen stars over the last two years? And you want me to take how big of a haircut niente got a whole lot of here. But y'all nothing to shave me all up in here. So I need all that Amari Cooper. Look like, did you see what you go to get going to take? Jerry. I so you bought a two hundred million dollar yacht. I need some of that. What about Byron Jones jailed Smith flying over people out? I need some money. Now, the only way they can make this happen skill. Is that embarrassing thing? Now when you when you add a situation, you're not a true free agent. If they come and give them extensions you, probably going to have to give them ninety five cents on the you're not going to get the whole one hundred you understand that. But unless these guys take eighty five percent on the dollar. I don't see how they get it done skip. And I think in order of getting done, I think I go I would go. Zeke DeMarcus that Amari. Jalen Smith, Byron Jones. I would go in that order because the most compelling case give he's the Jim Brown. Earl Campbell of the only two guys in Enzi three guys. That's led the league in rush yards per game. In the first three years. Not you know, he got suspended in your to. He would have led to leak three us in a row. I three years those other two guys in the hall of fame. Yup. That's the arc by the way, Zeke per game rushing over three years. Let it all three years to y'all clears the year he was suspending that is correct. So with that being said zeke's came at you on you because I know John Dorsey they looking and see what's going on with early and they gave him that extension. They talking about Todd might have chronic arthritis. Knee problem gonna do me? I need my paper. I'm not gonna let your run me and the grind like y'all did DeMarco Mur before I got here. Going to pay me is not going to happen. You gonna miss the playoffs. So you're gonna be. Sad all the way around you are in the rarest ever cowboy hating form today. And I do appreciate it because it makes everybody step back and look hard at this situation and say, we'll time out cowboy hating, Shannon. Sharpe. Aren't these? All good problems. You like Jerry Jones has a cap that's been reduced. Like, he's got cath lab. He gets the same amount of salary cap. As all the other teams, get right? They don't get penalized under this hour just because he has a yacht that doesn't like count under the cap you act like they have less money to spend than anybody else. No. But the problem they have other teams don't they got seven really really good player out take that. I would to these are good problems. In fact, they aren't good problems. They're great problems. Because you're telling me my team has too many great or soon to be great players. My right, knowing that's what you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I'll tell you. I'll take I'm good. Would you rather have my problems or the giants problems or the Redskins problems or the Denver Broncos problems? They have negative problems. They have deficit players. They have cupboard is getting bearer by the day. They're like, how do we fix this? This isn't a bad problem. It's a great. This is the kind of problem any team would say, please make us, please. Give us these problems. Make us the Cowboys problems. Right. Because these are all fixable problems. There are ways even if you lose one of those players you still have an embarrassment of riches you have Roussel Super Bowl team here. Yes. You do everything you just detailed is potential Super Bowl Super Bowl super will. Now, let's step back from the situation and look hard at what happened last year. The Cowboys won the division for the second time in three years with Dak Prescott quarterback right Zeke. Obviously got suspended the. A year before. So so that knocked the heart out of that season in the cloud hung over the team. That's these are maybe they would want it three straight years last year. The Dallas Cowboys actually won a playoff game. And then what happened in the second playoff game here in Los Angeles at the call. The Super Bowl team Rams. The Cowboys had them in jail third and seven from their own twenty eight with two minutes left in that game in a one score game. With a quarterback named Dak Prescott who has led the NFL in game winning drives over his first three seasons. I like my chances in that game as long as you don't let Jared Goff escape and run eleven yards for a first down. That kills the clock. If you if you somehow keep them to four yard gain or three yard gain or two yard gain. You get the ball back and give it to Dak Prescott at say his forty yard line. I'm unlike in my chances in that game in a one score game. Yeah. So that's where we were. That's the big picture this. That's that's the perspective of everything you're just talking about. So to me worst case scenario if my teen has to go into next year with Jeff heath and exert your woods back at safety. They won the division with those guys. My hurting their no, I'm not hurting could I up grade. Sure. Could I have Earl two I wanted Thomas. He said yesterday in his press session or media session with the Baltimore media. He said that Baltimore came out of the blue it came out of nowhere with an offer that within two hours he had closed the deal with the ravens because what happened they had nothing but cap because they had problems they lost everybody. They lost CJ Moseley, and Eric will and subs. They got nineteen book. We can go on and on and on they're in trouble there teetering and so they had all this cap room. And they made Earl Thomas the deal of a lifetime. If you break down his deal. It's even better than Landon Collins hit the lottery you want to the Redskins right from the giants. So my point is that went out of our price range that was the one shot out of the blue deal that just took Earl Thomas off the map off the market. You have rights. They could not do this deal. You cannot give this guy fourteen million for year with the guaranteed money. You gave him when you have DeMarcus Lawrence sitting right there saying hold on wait a minute. You wanna give an outsider this kind of money? When you watch me everyday. And I helped you win division titles. So you couldn't do that deal. But skip the thing that this puzzling me, you got all these great players. You got that Zeke Amari Cooper, DeMarcus Lawrence, you got three of the top. And jay. Byron Jones, you got the oh the wolf on. And remember Travis Frederick, I think is going to be back a Pro Bowl center. I'm pretty sure he's going to be great. Yep. Understand. Why do you only have one playoff win? Would you stood? We'll just arriving with the baby team. They're growing up together. Right before your very eyes. They've won the division two. Grams army. They're not a baby they went out and shot the moon last year. They win got everybody. You knew they got sue. They got to leave. Okay. So they went for broke last year, and it may break them this year. But that's the thing you gotta you gotta quarterback on rookie contract. Okay. Your quarterback Sony rookie contract. Zeke. Elliott's gonna wanna get paid Magali. I got it. Okay. Back to Eric berry. Okay. Would I like to snap my fingers and getting back to twenty sixteen Eric very sure I would because he made how many five pro bowls. Yes. He was a dominating safety physical letting rangy he's he's got the whole package, but he's had nothing but physical ills the last two years like you said the three games he's played. So could he on a make good deal incentive Laden UB like drill? Rivas? Remember with Bela chick in twenty fourteen. Okay. Let's just take one shot here. One shot. Would he do that for my team? He would bring a veteran presence. He brings pro bowls. He brings stature he brings magnitude. I would I would I take it. If he would take an incentive as deal. Sure. I would would I bet on him being a force in a factor. I would not I'm with you on that one Randall Cobb, you did not mention, but he's also visiting I think he visited yesterday Randall Cobb had hamstring haunt him all last year, but Randall Cobb is only twenty eight Eric varies thirty but rano Cobb is twenty eight years. I can make a case he's in the middle of his prime right now. If you got the best of Randall cop at a little bit of a discount because he's coming off a bad year. Would he be better than call? Beasley in the slot. Yes. He would. Should not alarm you that Green Bay's not willing to resigning considering that he had hamstring injuries. And they said, well, you know, what if he doesn't have these injuries? We're going to get the best around Cobb. Why wouldn't they reside? Is. They got two young receivers. He's a slot. Okay. I'm just saying, but they think they're going to go on we're upward, but it would Randall Cobb embraced the opportunity to play for a quarterback. Who's not a finger pointing blame deflecting diva. Like Roger out about airlines Dak Prescott biz would would ran to say, I wouldn't play for that guy. Which when there is over there when you weren't guy got you a ring around the wrong really could get you three rings on macabre. I think might be married. I got married a couple of years. Yeah. You don't need him. Ring your guy can't get him any. Anyway, he can I would favor signing Randall Cobb over Eric berry right now. I just think I just have a feeling that you could hit the lottery with Randall Cobb next year that he could have a bounceback we say wow, look at that on the stance. Give you had all these guys you keep telling me how great you keep Mitch and Dak Prescott going with multiple ring. You guys eat. You gotta Mari. You had two of the three offensive linemen. Why only two points in the playoff game in which playoff? The Rams thirty to twenty two. Well, it's hard to get the ball back when your defense is giving up hundred seventy three yards rushing try that while you're time of possession. When the other team is getting eight yards of Carey's. We what happens to head the ball. Did you do with it? Well, obviously, the Rams are really good. What the Rams Tom Brady? What are you telling me what at the Rams brain? You keep telling me Brady made one play that was prepared to make the one play to win the game. You know, what happened? You know? What the Rams the Rams they we were. Lit Zeke Elliott beat them. Now. Number four. If you want to beat us throwing the ball for three hundred plus three touchdowns and have at it. We don't believe the heck out of the ball that night. I thought really skill. Yeah. Really good, really. Did you see what happened in the second half? They won the second half. Did the Dallas Cowboys once they finally started to right? The wrong of getting run over roughshod. Let's just say for the sake of argument you and I'm really the game in the first half Osco a hundred points in the second half. I don't go any. But you score seventy five winds. Well, am I gonna let you out of a third and seven it's your twenty eight oh, you out you had you got on the field. What are league I told you out spring? No, no, no, no. I'm not mental hams. We'll let you out because era punter on the side. That's all you need to know all last year. Twitter seventeen. All I heard the man name was no, Sean Lee. I thought he would agent or something. Yeah. No. I like, wait a minute. Oh, we if we have Charlotte. We have won that game out of sight out of mine. He's he's now coaching the linebacker. And this is that how you do your boys. That's how we do. It. We go on. But we think now, well, I didn't see wolf owner coming. I didn't even like the. Laffitte you. Hey, you want to count. I hated it. Because I watched two or three Boise games the year before and he just didn't jump off my screen. I like, maybe he can play tackle. And does well to how could I not like it all over the? And now you talking about like Jalen Smith more, but I'll really tackling Dutchman's. You know, he's a free agent who Jason Smith. We got this. We gave them a chance when nobody who do. Do not pay resulted. That's your speaking of strong close personal relationships with the owner. How about Ezekiel Elliott, and I do agree with one point you made. I'm going to prioritize signing Zeke right now, I'm gonna put him at the top of my list. But what happened last year not this past year, but two years ago, what happened when Zeke was under fire from the league and was going to all these issues who hung right beside him who fought for him who helped him go to court to take on the National Football League. It was Jerrell Wayne Jones Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys owner in the documentary that they did for Amazon you could see the big meeting when came back from suspension, he went straight to Jerry's office. And they had it on film where they hugged and all but kissed each other because it's welcome back, and you could tell they had a really tight relationship me on what? So I think Zeke will work with Jerry and Jerry will work with Zeke, and they will get this done. And I think. Doc will take a little bit of a backseat because he is a team player, and he's got like thirteen national TV commercials. King don't believe. Got supplementary income. Because Jerry, Hong within get less. Let's say for the sake of argument. Yeah. I've done something really really bad. And I got this attorney big high powered attorney he's supposed to get me off. He doesn't get me off. You think I'm hugging him? Elliot's still serve those six game. So what Jerry actually do stand beside me or you go thirty six games, Whitney, Jerry. I won't oh my money. I won't fifty million guaranteed. Now, what you're gonna do that Zeke loves him some, Jerry. I love my money. More playing for America's team in Dallas, Texas, and he will take a slight hometown. You why you want to see everybody take her? Star on that element. And you don't wanna walk away from that. Once you got an on your helmet, it gets in your head and in your blood. Oh, what happened? That direct deposit. I want more of that. I will direct deposits not less. You're actually ten years behind the times on the door. All the same day. Deposited are deposited call. Rick depan me Gordon directly to the bay. What is Jerry Jones greatest strength always been tall cap wizardry? I don't know how he does it. He doesn't he he talking. Maybe he talks that the cap. I don't know how he does. He is a businessman is Jerry Jones knows how to. Really big into giving this carols, especially the people that don't deserve it. Yep. If this was the New England Patriots. And they had this problem. Maybe I could say look guys, you know, what I'm trying to keep all this thing. Together, we can keep it running. You got one play I win. So these are the soon to be patriots right here. You know? You. Okay. What if I told you about Dak Radi esque, wait a minute soon to be tree window SE, coach Belichick who come into coach coach, Jake? We don't need a coach JR selves, exactly. Jerry Jones, Mr. crown Joel's, Mr. crafts. I'll take Jerry. You know, what's going to be a shame you Mr. craft ought to be ashamed to him. Okay. You said on the door. I ran through. I don't know. I don't know anything about the book in that story. Kogo turn the channel. Yeah. You ought to be shamed. Here is you know, this these got Steven Jones that he heard someone say, no, you didn't you heard me saying that when you draft. Well, you you have that loggers give new hope you hit that the FARC in the draft picks like they done, but you know, blessing and curse, you know, going to college. I'll take the blessing. That's what I'm going to change now now with the blessing now, you need to bless us. Yeah. Better to give. Then we'll figure this out. This is what he does best what the rest of it. I don't on. Although that what what what does he do best cap policy and interpersonal relationships with football players. That's what he does. They're all his sons, you do realize you only run like three playoff game. So that's distant history. Okay. We'll talk about now the window last when you win the Super Bowl. Soon. I don't know. I need to see they pull off here. They going to sign these guys already on the contract. So they don't need to sign any right now. I need to know who's ready to play next September the team. All these Eric is Eric berry on the team Randall Cobb on the team they were there last year. You you got all these great guys right here right now. Good. We're poised to take off so Super Bowl. Maybe. Do you gotta make the super bay? I'll take that bad in September. I'll take that bet. I need to see who's on my team, y'all. What happens heard own be? Worst nightmare worst nightmare, but not on dream anymore. Osteo we still week three week. Great. All right, Shannon. -culing boys out Spurs other team. Are you going to jump on that fan? How about this gift? Spurs are on fire right now, they beat the warriors last night one eleven one oh five for their ninth. Straight wind Marta rose led the way with twenty six points after the game. Steve Kerr said the Spurs out executed and outcoached them. So skip how dangerous are the Spurs in the west saying again, Judy on fire on we are on by your would you believe as recently as February six my Spurs went up to Golden State and lost by thirty nine points. And look at us now, go Spurs go. Okay. Okay. Guy that number two up in Toronto. Good riddance to him. We don't need him. We are better off with demar Rosen relearn in one of the clutches closers in pro basketball, take Dhamar in the fourth quarter over that guy in LA, what's his name, Iran. They'll do that the Fogo. Remember, what happened to swim? Oh well into Ronald twice. You know, what I'll take Dhamar Rosen and Jaka Pertile over that number two up in Toronto. Because those are the two players we got back in the trade for him. You remember what happened last year number to quit on the San Antonio Spurs knowing forced his way out of say. Up to Toronto. And what happened again last night? How sweet it was last night because what was going on with the Toronto Raptors last night car. Larry's got to ankle sprains both ankles are having problems right now. And what happened number two once again opted not to play for Toronto. That was a team. Oh team decision. So wait a second. So he's now missed twenty games. That's impossibly MS twenty of their seventy one games that's more than a quarter of the season. That's twenty eight percent of the season that number two is chosen not to play for Toronto. So he the north, but he chooses not to play that is give is load management load management. So what did we see what a sweet night? It was in San Antonio last night. That's eleven in a row at home that's nine straight overall wins. And that was the demar derozen show in the fourth quarter because here came Golden State, and they tried they made a run that would would just level. Basketball teams, even at home, and they made four threes did Golden State in the fourth quarter. And what happened can we see the derozen shots that he hit? Did you see this one? That's another one, but he made two shots on Klay. Thompson the business. Oh. He he didn't have a step back. He's got a step. Right. That's what he does step. Right. That was right in clay's grill big tube that stopped rally in that. Here we go again that's the same shot. And then he's got one on the baseline where he wheeled us on clay. This is a huge shock because this is about to be this is only a four point game at this point bloom, and I must admit I'm never loved him derozen. But now I'm in love with him. Because he is man he's taken over four quarter after quarter in their nine game streak e end DaMarcus the other guy, lamarcus. Yeah, they're they're both number one in fourth quarter clutch points over this stretch that mid range game lamarcus. So what do I think how dangerous for my Spurs? They can now beat any team in the west in a playoff series except Golden State. But I do give them a shot against Golden State because that was a big win last night. And by the way, Derek Whyte are Cebu for just doesn't again. And again, he pick. Derek quite with the twenty ninth overall pick. He's turned into a star. I gotta tell you. He did a number on Steph curry last Steph curry shot eighteen threes last night, which is the six most of his career. He's twenty is the most he's ever shot in a game. See what he had six eighteen they'll work that now the twenty five nine of twenty five and that had a whole lot to do. Derek Whyte can anybody stop Steph? Nobody can stop him. But at least Derek Whyte can bother him which gives you a chance against Golden State. So I'm loving this team unloving the chemistry unloving the fact that they have now vaulted over the nine game streaked number one in points allowed. So they're back to playing defense the whole year, Mr. shar, they have lead the NBA in three point percentage shooting and the whole year they have lead the NBA in free throw shooting. Well, those things work. They will. Thank you very much very dangerous, Jenny. Thank you very much for asking not at all. They wanna play could they win the first. Round matchup, Portland. They could be Portland. They could probably okay, see, they could probably beat Houston. Get out if it was I I would ask you to leave. Hey, you could you ruined ever Tarver sation air quite on that Dame DP? And let's see what happens. Let's see. What happens seriously? Do you tested? No. I'm just telling you this team can defend or listen. This team has always had done very well on James harden gun. Very well. They know how to play James harden and playoff games. Okay. Let me try to get Jimmy not that dangerous at all. When it first round matchup. Sure. The playoffs all about matchups who you get. When you get them. Could they be let's say for the sake of argument could they beat Poland? Sure. They could probably be Portland. He'd gone maybe Utah. Keep going. Clip. Okay. See clip. Matchup like your four Hughes. Sure. Where does it end? Why you keep doing Denver? Yes. No, no. They just beat Denver okays one game. Okay. They'd be go to stay one time. And now you think they can take four games three more games. Maybe. No, no. Maybe stop it. I'm gonna give credit to do what he's done with this team. You Cooper who they topped by player with healthy and to replace him with the Marta Rosen and to have this team plan as well as he has. He does is unbelievable. He should get more consideration for coach of the year. He's not because he's Gregg Popovich, this is what you expected him yada, yada, yada. I get it. But he's done. Unbelievable job. I will give the Marta rodent some credit. I did not see. Well, let me take that back. He's been at all. So clearly you can play. But I haven't seen him play. Like this come playoff time when they need him to play like this in Toronto. You're right. San Antonio different story. He's played unbelievable. They're white as you mentioned. He's been you counting Murray Murray gets hurt early. And why do Agean if they had to Sean Murray, and they're quite and they're backward while you were playing Steph would be like, oh, can we score? On serious. They can defend like crazy. She'll be the best defensive backward in the league next year about this. I'm going to give you this. They can win a first round series is long as the series is not Houston. Now. Golden State not the nuggets I believe they can be any of the other five before teams that make it. I believe they could beat them in a series. They can't beat those three teams. Now, if you expect clay to five eighteen if you expect a staff to shoot nine or twenty five and Katie had Katie had a quiet, quiet. Whole harm uneventful twenty four. That's what happens when you're the best player in basketball. You score Twi ah quiet twenty four right divaesque? The best player basketball had thirty three eighty. We're not talking about that. Almost all stuck. You're. This is what I'm saying. He got blocked if you'll hand block if my zone, though, head the thing that makes Golden State no team in the history of the game ever had the third option. Be able to go get you six that. We've seen third often be able to go get you forty get you sixty the third option is sixty. I'm not counting on Steph curry going down to twenty five very often out not counting on a K D only gaining nineteen shot que did is you into the board coordinate even that should he had three shots. They got the rebound back to be missed it again got to rebound kicking back to missed again. He missed like three consecutive shots. Do you expect him to do that very often? I do not you keep asking for trouble. So you type guy you like the bar trouble probably bothering you. But you Abbar it. Anyway, you gonna talk on a buck with borrowed it ain't troubling. Oh, yes. You go talk about a book cook. Now, you miss running grab Golden State come playoff time when they're gonna be up. No end. There's a good chance. Katie's not coming back. They wanna go out with a bang, and they're gonna put footfall Linda, so leave that alone. Hope you get Portland. Hope you get okay. See the clippers jazz, but leave alone. I've told you all year gold states troubled basketball team in it started with that flash point on the bench against the cliff. You'll be in trouble drain on K D went at it. Okay. Right. And they never quite recovered from that to me, and they showed you the last two games. The previous two games at Houston at Oklahoma City. No, K D. We're going to show you what we can be without him because he's got quote unquote, one about what you're gonna do eighty two game. Would that's what they're saying? Watch us. Now last night DeMarcus cousins did not play had some ankle issue. Got it. All right. It seems like it's okay. Can they still blend him in? They went and got Goget, which I thought was a huge great pickup for them because he can still rim. Protect like crazy. And he was good last night. The thing they got bogey skip in case. Boogie gifts in trouble. Now, you got somebody battle cappella. Now, you got somebody that can balan- Nate. We've got to defend you, right, outa guy doesn't Rier about scoring. Right. You don't have to go through him to score basket that six files he so he he's not an offensive threat. But you got somebody that can protect the paint protect the rim, but you counting on stay Steph and Klay going fourteen forty three four times in the series. No, but okay couple times. And all sudden it's a game. Am I gonna count on my team? They didn't shoot the ball. Very well either they made ten threes. Ten out of twenty six that that's almost that's thirty nine percent. Usually they make more than the how many how many let's say in the last five minutes of a tough game. They were to meet this team in the playoff. Do. You think the rules go four out of five and contesting shots. Like he did last night every game. He's been doing it all year long. So as Derek Whyte dare quite is hugely. And you know, what lamarcus has turned clutch all the markets. The markets is good. But we'll see come playoff time. Because you remember here that? Big monster game early that one time he dropped boarded in the first in the first game. And then he disappeared the biggest magician in the world. I thought it was Copperfield didn't see him again who has led the whole NBA in three point shooting much of the year. He's now just a tick into second-placed Burton Thanh, these Bertone's guess how the Spurs acquired him are. Buford. Manage to get for number two. Remember, remember, they acquired number. They got number two and dovey spur tons for George hill, the immortal George hill to whom LeBron past the basketball. Here Milwaukee playing very little because they don't wanna miss a chemistry. So you lost number two. But you got back. Obviously, you got that guy who. Yeah. That that guy, you know. And they yeah. My point is you're still you still have derozen and Pertile and you have vs. Those are all part of that reservoir. Stop talking about Pertile Hideko Pirlo. He is so good that they allowed how this all just to go on up to Milwaukee. That's how good he is. You got to watch them. I know you say, they're like broccoli gotta watch your and broccoli. They were fun to watch last night, Patty mills he just comes skit, look, they they had it going last night. Yeah. Everytime. Everytime. The warriors made a Rudd. It seemed like somebody was hitting a shot to snuff it out. Okay. I'm gonna give you that. But skip that's one game do understand to the throne that team up in the bay. You gotta take him down four times. And. Two weeks. Yep. Who I love watching make threes as much as Steph and Klay Bella Nellie. He makes threes. He makes shocking. Three does all down follow way. All got about on the move fallen four. We hit wonder snuffed out a run last night on top of the key. And I'm like every time he shoots now. Don't be. Yes. But stop asking for trouble skin nowadays. They or no, no, no, they they they in a little influx right now. They got a little thing going on. And they need to they need to clear up that you're going to keep asking keep Jillian. Oh, yeah. I won't them. Be careful. You remember Banda bail? We won't Alabama. We won't Alabama. I was ancient his you. You gotta remember what happened. Yeah. We won't the warriors. Okay. Go get exactly what you look at you. Just compared the Spurs to Vanderbilt football. Really yet miss. I don't think I was around for that. Yep. Yeah. When it and the war in when the war. Yes, exactly. Now, they're being sweep y'all that was a Jalen hurts game. And it got so out of hand. That's the first time I ever saw to play. He just lit up the Commodores in relief that he's a much not fair. I they could put me in there on their sweep y'all the warriors in the play on going sweep you. Okay. I got it right now. If it comes to that. I'll I'll take five cases way. Now, I'll take it. You know what that'll take to loan vacuum? So you're predicting Linden three three just call. It. All what am I going to be Golden State beach about twenty five thirty they'll just cancel tuten. We've always played really well at Goldens. I don't care how you lately. No. You didn't you lost thirty nine? Well, that was the last that was soon we're struggling and you remember you had number two and number two would have been helping them down navy. Well, where he's a win long on and forgotten. No, he's not forgotten. Yep. He got he got a banner hanging up there. And he wanted be anyone deep the player to player two years. Give and that's how you do that. May you forget him. Just like that get us. He was hurt quit. He was hurt. He had a Bruce still got a bruise into no still our differing. It's unbelievable. It's one of those nagging. I know if Dr so he got tend to really I do. What is going on with the giants? Odell Beckham junior was traded to the Browns last week and the team picked up ally. Manning's five million dollar roster bonus which basically ensures the thirty eight year old quarterback will be the starter next season yesterday GM, Dave Gettleman addressed all of the criticism. Let's take a lists after much discussion. We just believe this was in the best interest of the New York football giants. I want everybody to know. This was purely a football business decision. This. No intrigue is no he said, she said, none of that stuff. So let's not waste time. With those types of questions after the fact this narrative that he lies all the paid can't play is a crock. I'm telling you. So at the end of the day, you guys gonna say get them out of his mind. Ari knows what he's talking about. When he evaluates players. That's really what it is. That's really where it's at. And I'm okay. If you. Agree with me. That's fine. Really, and truly very honestly, it's not my responsibility to tell you guys what I'm doing. Just like it's not my responsibility to respond to every rumor that comes down the pike. That's not my job. Okay. It's not my responsibility. Trust me. We got a plan. Okay. Can you see a plan for the giant? I do Jenny. It's called failure. That's the plan that the on the horizon for the giants. And when I wish he was stopped saying, the New York football giants is the New York Giants. That's what they say. What they all said what fans sale with a lot of giants fans ESPN. And that's all they said. Giant. But he shouldn't be saying that he unless the fan, but he's making decisions like pain. He sounds like he's a nigger doesn't he said they made him an offer. They couldn't refuse skill. He making got two first round the two twos. And a third round of O'neil. Do you gotta I in the third ROY Williams win for two ones. I told you you real peppers can play. He's going to make some pro bowls for the New York football. And then hold on here rested saying we're gonna bring Theriault peppers alone. Slowly for what I don't third you. Oh gonna bring them slowly. Because of that mistake, you letting Landon Collins go, but that's not what we'll talk about. We wanted to cut import about ally. This this this this notion that ally manning is overpaid and washed up if a crop. If you believe he in giants management. I think the fans realize what they keep trying to recreate skip the two magical playoff runs. Now. It's been a decade says he li- had that magical playoff run that culminated in ending in the house that Payton Bill when he took down Tom Brady, again, it's been almost a decade skip Bayless meal since then they have yet to win the division since then they have yet to win a playoff game. But I'm supposed to believe. That after watching him over the last eight nine years, he's going to recreate this magic they'd get them. And you talk if you believe e gonna take you where you need to go if I'm saquon Barkley, I'm looking in twisted because guess what that means get day by the put four hundred twenty his young, man. He had what eighty catches last year? Oh, he going to get a hundred along with three hundred plus carries. That's all they got. Yeah. I get it. You signed golden Tate. Golden Tate is not the deep threat odeal. Dell. Can get in the ball. Anyway. So it might work. Well, he Eli ODA might look better in the giant uniform because he couldn't get the ball. Anyway. And people look at all those catch though, they'll make they'll make an out of necessity. You see throwing the ball. Now. They're put on the show and pre-game skill. He just show enough. But we need that the game he has to make because he liked on those wobbles in behind him in between his legs. How's he going to catch the ball? Dave Gettleman need to stop with this business. Manning is not going to take you anywhere because. Why hasn't me in the last nine years? This what we know? Now, we can get a get getting all this will ally is an overpaid or we get into this world where here's places and history. This is what we do know for back not conjecture not innuendo nutmeg relation see lab. Manning last won a playoff game, which was the Super Bowl to head coaches and general managers have lost their job traffic back now. Dave Gettleman, you can come up here. All you want to talk about alive. Not overpaid. We got a plan. They made us an offer we can't refuse but ill. I manning has caused to head coaches ama- general manager their jobs through and guess what play 'em. Keep playing ain't gonna call your yours too. Okay. I hear everything you just said, I will agree there appears to be no plan, especially at the most important position quarterback. I don't know where they're heading there. I don't know where what's the exit strategy from because I can't see one. No. Is it Josh Rosen? Do you? Go get Josh Rosen is that it would that's the things because there have been reports that they're they're shying away from Dwayne Haskins at six is also no join Askins. And what what are you going to do? You don't have a planet that position all the rest of your plans a few. I would agree with that. So I must say I did like what Dave Gettleman said yesterday to the New York media. The toughest media to deal with. I liked the way he laid it on the table. And remember Dave Gettleman help build the Carolina Panthers. You have to give him he helped get them to a Super Bowl. Right. So he just lays it out for them by saying. So at the end of the day, you have to say galman is out of his mind or he knows what he's talking about. When he evaluates players because that's what it's going to come down to that sink or swim for this guy. That's fire or keep this guy. Right. Because you'll see by the end of next year. What how the plan is manifesting itself or not? Okay. And yet he makes an interesting point about e and I'm not an Eli fan. I despise what he got away with in the two games against Brady, especially luckiest passed in the history the Super Bowl, but I won't go there today. But the point is that he says we were thirteen and three the first year I took over we were five and eleven last year and twelve of those games were a touchdown or less that is a true statement. So with thirteen thirty three and thirteen. Okay. Okay. Five and eleven and they had twelve winnable games that they did not. I got it. But sometimes you just getting blown out and you're just nightmare. You're you're just hapless hopeless. But in this case, if you look at the second half of the year ally, and I'm not defend I'm just telling you the truth. He was pretty good over the second half of the year. And I watched this game because I think it was on Monday night. I think it was or Sunday and Monday night at San Francisco, you I was really good in the fourth quarter that game in San Francisco was pretty good last year. And the giants won that game twenty seven to twenty three and threw three touchdowns and no interceptions. And then they beat Tampa Bay at home. They lost it. Philly twenty five to twenty three which is pretty good. Then they came home and beat the bears. They beat the bears. Pretty Sally thirty to twenty three and he li- again was pretty good in that game. Then they want at Washington big forty two forty two sixteen and then they lost their last three. They lost badly to the titans. They lost to the colts by one point in Dallas. Remember that last game shootout? It would just crazy. Dallas didn't even need the game. It was thirty six to thirty five. So my point is if you look at allies body of work over the last eight games, it's decent. It's not awful. It was decent just for the record. So what he's saying is we're not paying him that much. He's going to be tied for twelfth and salary next year. So is he kind of a bargain. What would you what some of the quarterback one? That's not the -ccomplish light. Okay. But my thing is get forget if overpaid underpay the fact of the Mattias that's your quarterback. And you're saying we can win Super Bowls with him on the at the hill because they can't they might be able to get through and be respectable next with them in. What I don't know. What a lot of that stuff. We li- he dumped it down to saquon. They want juke eighteen people fifteen tackle in Eli got thirty Arken. Remember, he just screamed to you addition by subtraction on Odell, and it was his choice or somebody's choice that organization to pay. Oh dell. And then it was probably get laments Choi. To say we can't win with this guy. It was the same people that pay him with the same people just get rid of ever. Okay. You know that kind of money skill and you trade that guy because he's he's the. For better or worse. He was the face. He was he was eight and they didn't like the faith that was being put on their night. So you know, how they skip John marrow's dad, Mr. welling to Maryland. Oh school. That's not what they want. No. Which is why I was shocked. They gave him that much money to start with last night. You can wreak havoc wreak hail like one guy. They keep you that was not. The stuff that LT was doing compared to what Beckham I agree. He'll say. Time. You'll see trust me. Trust me on the matter. Obviously he'll be he'll be eligible us at about two years. Yeah. You'd be right there. You'll be there. I don't know if that's in the master. Right. Okay. Well, I know I need to ws next year against the New York Giants. And I got them quarterback. You got I got eight I'm telling you don't ask me. Do I want to do? I'm not betting on the giants. So I don't care. So don't ask wins against giants to Washington to Philly and walk it to him. I got that'd be six in a good spot. Eagles sweep Unix right now. dR you healthy. Healthy gotta make sure you healthy if he's healthy or Yogi swift. I can't wait for wept. I can taste the do already. Okay. I can tell you that these guys are fired up for this next topic skipping. Jen will give their all time and BA starting fives. Interesting. This last week. Skip got thousands of questions for his troll or coaster segment. And one of the most interesting was from Isaiah in New Jersey. I hope he's watching who asked skip who would you put in your all time starting five lineup in the NBA. Now, this isn't necessarily the best players at each position. But if you had one game one game to win. Yup. Who would be your five guys? Go start held it wants important glow. What? Hey. What? You're saying we're actually, you know, I gotta have a man to run the point. I'm gonna go with the greatest point guard of all time and Irving Magic Johnson, we need to we need somebody that can feel it up, and we need to he can is. So he got a post up gang play defense. I need all that. I'm good with one Michael Jordan. What? This. Sharon. Bashing him for fashion, and then I'm gonna go with the grade of power forward of all time. Fifteen time all defensive first second team too tired of the Pete finals MVP what the big the mental. I am hated the Spurs. You have ridiculed. You're saying you can't watch him. He's the boring is superstar ever and your put him in. You're starting out Dr. Then maybe I was right all along about the Spurs. Oh, and then I gotta go with elegant. You know what? This guy was very underrated guy. The one Kareem Abdul-Jabbar eleven time all defensive second team, led the NBA and blocks four times, Neil MVP, six chips. I gotta go with, but I've either three ninety degree either the small forward really these about that not only could in their prime fitting that chair for photo minute lot take guard one through five ninety two could play above the real can make plays triple triple double threat every night greatly Walter. They'll do this year. Let me have over. Will you talk about bad? They say it in. Pay Olympic time free uplift on that. When he was around. They had died before the band. Downfall. Was what skill T Rex? Gotta have not he coming out last. You know, you're gonna do your starting lineups. And this guy he's last. Wait. I gotta ask did T Rex ever get his shot blocked by Mario Zonja. Little long. He did this. And it's like, I was shot blocked. Okay. I'm trying to gave. And that's my I got better Johnson. Michael, Jordan, Kim, Dunkin Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and LeBron James did I hear Kobe Bryant in there? You sure did not. I did not. I thought I didn't. So I'm about to on the fly off the cuff make one change to the starting five that I used on troll or coaster last Friday, but I'm gonna make it. Because now that I've heard you're starting five I just went to win this all time championship game. So I'm going to make one change and I'll get to it in my last player. Okay. But I am also taking the greatest point guard ever to start my team with and that is Magic Johnson. Unfortunately, your guy LeBron is was really just a point guard. He needs the ball in his hands. He always has the ball in his hands. So when a second if I have Jordan and. Imagine what wait a minute. Where's the Balkan go? Lebron needs the ball. Yes. He does. So he doesn't fit my starting lineup. I'm sorry because I want magic greatest winners intangibles ever this side of Michael Jeffrey, Jordan, so I got Jordan on one wing. And I got Coby Bryan on the other wing, and you're gonna have a hard time with my two wings because they are the cold blooded, est basketball, assassins who ever walked on a court. They have killer will both of them. They are going to look to destroy your team. And I don't know who you're going to put on Koby, then Bron bronze Koby. Oh, Kobe's gonna torch him. He's not quick enough. Okay. What what what are we gonna do Brown? He'll be just fine. But no he will that we can do post up. Lebron? Give him a beer. Okay. You only got to you got. Okay. You got three. You got magic. Kobe and Jordan. Yeah. And I'm good right there. I could just stop once. I got the real three at the game's over you guys. But you also have him on your side. So that's the problem. So I'm also going with the greatest power for it ever. Who's actually a center, but? More. He's actually five he's seven feet tall. And his name is Tim Duncan. And he's the greatest passing big man ever. So I got that. And now, I come to my big chain. Okay. This is counter act Corinne. Yes, sir. Shaquille O'Neal because I always said when I pick my all time rankings. I always put shack a little ahead of Kareem. Because if I think hand to head one on one shack in his prime versus cream in his prime. I gotta tell you. I think shack would rag doll Kareem Abdul-Jabbar seriously, prime versus prime shack at what did he wife three something? I don't know any probably three. Three three twenty again, one to watch wouldn't pretty to watch. But he was simply the most over powering offenses basketball force I ever saw impossible referee and impossible to guard. You just couldn't keep him from the rack, you know, what? Now, I'm gonna change man. You know, what I'm gonna change? That's a loud. I don't think it is. You know, what I'm saying Tim Duncan to the bench? You are and taking a chemo allies one. You're taking a key. Where did that come from? 'cause I need somebody counter act shot. Okay. 'cause you remember what came shot? Yeah. Chemo as like two-thirty? Definitely. Okay. Do you? Remember, it's your number. What he did a shack in Orlando. Do you remember that that was a long time ago? That was checking Friday. No it wasn't. He hadn't he hadn't arrived yet. Okay. That was baby shack Asha who gave Asha who gave him the most problems in his NBA career. Well, I agree shack would have a hard time guarding Akeem. But her thing, though, skip going is be tough for Kareem. Because if read we had read by here Reema's steal a thin, man. You can imagine what he was liking twenty thirties. Give he wouldn't stop stopping skyhook. That's the most unstoppable shot in the history of the NBA shut my get forty but Korean going get fifty fifty until she's gonna pump it into Kareem every time if. That. So you got LeBron and Jordan and magic in there. Just watching Korean go one on one thought. Early. You know, he thought that. Oh, yeah. I thank you for leaving me Tim Duncan because he's my guts glue my group because you've got a bunch of ain't goes on the floor. You only have one basketball, but Tim Duncan will alternately share the basketball at all times. What allies one peaceful, man? Hey, I'm I'm arrived. I'm arrive with a lodge with a lot of lakes is a lot of leg of all all of their. Well. But you know, what you keep talking? I might take somebody else. That's I know the guy on the far, right? Does not qualify. The laker. My right. He's he has an earned stripe. Shed here. He has not earned the right to wear purple and gold, especially all time. He's gotta wear Cavaliers. We should have a Cavalier's. You know, we have. No, yes. We should. We don't do is cavalier at heart. Get in Connecticut question, we don't play by a two thousand eighteen nineteen rules. We go. We go. We don't do hope if we do about whole line. I wanna take I would take Jordan take LeBron. And I might get James harden Steph curry some play of we're we're playing by two thousand rules locates, also, okay? You got three point. It was still not that deal wasn't at prevalence scale. I think I would beat you by twenty men crazy. I got your nothing. Got play for both guys got I gave you Kobe. If I got Colby and Jordan, you're gonna lose. You're just gonna lose all all I know at the whole lot of this. But I just remember my my last impression of Magic Johnson going to get Michael Jordan with game one of a nineteen Ninety-one NBA finals and skip Bayless. My memory serves me, correct. And I know your memory serves you, correct? Can you tell the people at home because a lot of them that watch our show they were young some of them might not have been born in nineteen Ninety-one. Can you tell them what magic did? Nineteen Ninety-one NBA that was a breakthrough year NBA finals. Yeah. Triple dough and Chicago Stadium and then gain to what Phil Jackson do put Scottie Pippen. Oh, magic in pick them up ninety four feet. But I only know why brought that none of my memory's foggy but didn't Jordan win game. One of that. No, they lost. Did they they Lau? I'm thinking the up and under he did on dead. Dated a med with going that babies Cowher going with doing that right out the day. Whereas the take that right? I was there. I was in the front row I will use outing. I did that man. Should remember what happened the rest of the series because it's kind of a mismatch head team at twenty three. And the other team did not know what you told me magic. Although Michael, oh, he was a defensive stopper. You put him on anybody know feel put six seven Scottie Pippen owned by Jake will who is the defensive player of the year one year. Michael Jordan, nineteen Eighty-eight. Yeah. Whole league best player. Lebron should've one it's you know, he should've wanted over market soul. Really? Yeah. Don't remember that do remember that. He wasn't Jae thirteen. I'm sorry. I do remember all I can remember now LeBron plan no defense. So what about this like the current LeBron on your team is that what we're talking about? I got Corrine. I got him Dunkin allies once on good. No. You don't have Tim Duncan game. As one take dream dream shake who dream shape. Probably Jordan go get. Will join a good Nancy world, we could watch this happen because that was fun to listen to you guys Meghan fourth about it. All right. Speaking of all those Lakers. Well. Remers beat Lakers next coach will discuss that with. Like her season has been a complete disaster. And a lot of people are putting it on the shoulders of Luke Walton he will likely be out at the end of the season. Peter Vesey says they like Doc Rivers and would give him the job. If he's interested one problem. He's employed by the clippers for two more seasons. And don't forget that LeBron is signed with the Lakers for three more seasons. We're joined by EPA NBA analyst, Chris Broussard, Chris what is the better job for the next three years? Are you going with question? Lakers. Obviously you want to wait and see what happens free agency who is teamed gets but right now clippers I don't even think it's close the front office. I got the great Jerry West probably the greatest executive MBA history. Not probably certainly Lawrence. Frank is done a good job. Mike winger who brought over from Oklahoma City with San press. Doc, lost his personnel rice? And I thought doc did a really bad job when they had their big three the Andre Jordan Blake Griffin. Chris Paul couldn't even get past the second round. Now. He's just focused on coach. Yeah. I think he's done a terrific happy might be coaching year. Yeah. So the front office is better more stable. Genie's a fine owner. But Steve bombers a really good. He's going to spend money. You know, he's enthusiast. Big you got ride. He got plenty to burn. And then when you look at the rosters, which is. Key that team has a bunch of hungry hard working role players who know who they are. They're not trying to be the stars. And I think if you get Kawai Leonard, which most people think they will they become immediately. They become Toronto. Because I think that's what Randall has around Kuwata. They got a bunch of really good role players call our he's been an all star here and there, but you know, mantras Herro I liked him, Lou Williams noses role shade all that. Right. Right. Come in and shoot. Got all the responsibilities and those are low maintenance guys, they're all low maintenance. I I don't know how you feel about co is maintenance. But I think it's low load liquors, even if you get a which is a big if. Lebron historically, and this is when he was younger. It's still took him the year to to win a championship. Because maybe it's the adjustment. Other stars just in the LeBron him adjust and other stars. But Cleveland one in the second year, Miami they won in the second year. So if it gets to the second that's not to mention what are you gonna put around Anthony Davis and LeBron? But if it gets it a second year that ADA is they're talking about LeBron his eighteenth season. So now, how great is he still probably be really good. But how much decline will there be in year eighteen so for those reasons I think the clippers is a better job which good better job over the next three years? That's it. You said something very interesting if the Lakers if the clippers get Kawhi if the Lakers if the clippers get this late Lakers, get liquor already got LeBron. They already got star. Still don't look very good. Right. They'll little bit good right now. But right now over the next three years year seventeen you. That clip it will have a better recognition. We stay right now. I would go. I think the Lakers if they don't add anybody that making the play. Exactly. Yeah. I I like that. But I'm talking about championship who think? I think is a better job. The lake is just on pedigree alone is a better job. Of course that for me. I think LeBron will be able to attract now whether or not they can get Anthony Davis. See I still don't what's going to notice that we lose these games out percentile of getting old Zion. We Mark I thought we wouldn't talking about if who we getting whatever. You did that we go packages. So now, you guys I go pack package Xijiang and those three young players for holiday eighty. That's what we do y'all relegates. That'd be interesting that what we're gonna do for what we're going to be. So couldn't either knits do they get? L? Zayn come on do they cut that? V8.? We might. Okay. Lakers. I would love to have Doc Rivers. I think this would be the LeBron love guys the coach that played the game dot play like fifteen years. Good. And he wanted championship at the Cote. So now most players not all most players have the utmost respect for guys that play coat and one. That's why field Jackson. That's why Pat Riley. Although they were not great players. They played and they and they won titles. There's something to be said about that. So with that being said, I would love to have duck. I don't see the clip led them out of that deal. But the lake of always going to be shine. It's. So this boils down for me to one question and one question only, if you are Doc Rivers, and you're fifty seven years of age, and you have coached as a head coach for twenty straight seasons. That's a long grind if you have your druthers. And again, we don't know the x factor of who's going to right? But in the big picture, would you rather win one more championship for the clippers or the Lakers because if you go to the Lakers and win a championship? But. But it would just be business as usual. It's just another Lakers championship. What would be huger would be to win a championship for the clippers? You mythical scale fewer clip of still think the Lakers. What just because it's on them before it's been awhile. And you do it with LeBron that would be that would be huge. This is just me. I wouldn't wish coaching LeBron on any coach because I think it's really hard. It can be really if he likes you. I know it's just hard. It's he is the drama king. It's just nightly. It's just wear and tear on your emotions because you have to take the bullets for him when he's in a bad mood. You have to just stand up there and take it from the media, and Luke Walton has done a great job of keeping a stiff upper lip this your act one time. I haven't seen him crack conditioner. He was the winning Keene. Okay. All right. Well, that's fine. But now back to Jerry West there's one man and all pro basketball. I do not bet against I learned a long time ago, Jerry West helped build the Showtime Lakers, and then the shack Koby Lakers, and then he went to Golden State, and he helped built these warriors. He did he was in middle in. And in between he took a couple years often. He went to Memphis and one executive of the year in the NBA in two thousand four that's how great he is. He has eight rings as an executive only one is the player. He's the logo. I don't get it. But somehow still the logo, but whatever he lost eight two, okay? Different different criteria. But this man has executive genius about. And all of a sudden Steve Balmer, Scott him in doc is lucky to have him overseeing again, he's not hands on like, he's Lawrence Frank. But all the big picture decision. Making all the picking of the players all the drafting of the players. That's all coming from Jerry West. I'm not gonna bet against him. And if I'm doc, I'm saying I'm going to hang in here because not good things are about to happen. Great things about tap. They just traded their best player. And I thought last the end of the clippers this year Tobias Harris goes to filling and what happened they took off. They they're gonna lose their first round pick, which they don't seem to value because they are going to go ahead and make the playoffs. They're on astounding run. Everything is in place. And I still I disagree with you. If you want to I know this is like the impossible dream, but if the Los Angeles Clippers won a championship before LeBron's Lakers did. The next three years. I know that, but we don't know how the chips are gonna fall. And if they got number two up in Toronto he came to LA and Jimmy Butler came with him. Then maybe start to have something if Katie leaves Golden State, you know, what might happen. There's all types of openings for the clippers could be Kawai and K D. There's talk around that. There we go look out those two may not wanna play together. What about kyri it could be Kawai and kyri why you won't say carry a liberal has. I don't think I wanna go back. I think they're friendly now in they're cool. But I don't think he wants to go back and play. I just don't I I just don't see it. But kyri start his own media company. He's got those same aspiration. Now, he could learn under LeBron wanna come down and do it himself here if the Lakers the guy with all due respect to dot the guy, they really should be trying to poach from the clippers who you said Jerry West Jerry wanted to go there. He would have been happy to aid maj. This spite move almost like I'll go to the clippers, and I'll show you dated want Jerry West believe it or not. But when that end, and that would help LeBron would have the utmost respect after not doesn't have it for magic in those guys. But he would have the utmost respect for Jerry West. I don't know. Doc. Remember, Chris, Paul love, doc. He wanted. He he made sure the clippers could get dock, and then they fell out, you know. So I don't know. It's going to be interesting. Doc, we do have temporary setback. We had a momentary setback for great combat. Just remember LeBron is not getting any younger. I can you a lot. I can't tell you. I can tell you know, what they should do put him next year. He just be a regular small forward. I think he could lead the league score or challenge. It would he be happy with that. I don't think he can control the game anymore. Like, he can get the numbers. He can still score. But Kenny control the game. Like he used what you've got to put him around player. So he can control the game used to control the even without play against Golden State in the finals twenty fifteen that. Yeah. Though in the impact on the game on the impact that he can impose on the game. Now is not what it used to be. So maybe we need we need not or not. The the eastern general manager said anonymously he can't take for cadavers to the finals anymore. He needs some breathing human being the finals now, stay up. He never took cadaver Davos. Davos, when they met Golden State now, he didn't take could average they had kyri and love. But once they got hurt with some cadavers. Carrie Carrie got hurt the first game in overtime omitted into overtime. Kevin love they'd be making that up. What about last year? But what about when Cari won a championship for LeBron? You're eating breathing. Pulse. Second biggest shot in NBA history. I will give you this Chris negligent, right? Lebron James is the only man to lead the NBA finals in every the typical category if the category they record LeBron James leading any spree and say why any? Got a Highgate James. Little double jam. To jean. We have more to Ron later. Talk over me. I gotta make sure. Chris you're gonna come back later. I think for a little bit more LeBron. So we know Baker Mayfield and Dak are to skips favorites. But who will have the better career? And then we will ask we'll tell you. A better career tech Prescott. Or Baker Mayfield back has eight thirty two sixteen record in his first three seasons. Plus a playoff win on the other side. Baker had an impressive six wins as a rookie for a franchise that only had one win the previous two years. Oh, yeah. He just got a new weapon in del junior. So Shannon, who will have the better career to good question deck or Baker do trick question isn't a trick question. I'm worried about biker Baker Baker. Oh, I thought you were gonna say Dak stop. That's what he thought was a trick question stuff. Seriously own his best day. He we thought a ball Baker really ought to stop. Get Baker is already a better throw of the football than back Preska because he's had more practice. His basically the whole career. He's been a passing style offense. So him throwing the ball down. The field is second nature to him. That's not what that press got did at Mississippi State and he was into zone read. Well, he did some he did it enough. Go ahead. Go ahead. It wasn't like he never threw team through. Sometimes. I'll be okay, he'll probably for the advancing. Tibo Daggett any last college game do for four hundred and eighty one four eight hundred. In time. Thirty twenty eight you said he's like Tibo, I'm saying Tibo LA hired. Tina? But anyway, I'm taking Baker Mayfield. Because I think he throws the put ball better. He's more accurate than that. He throws the football. He all about that Dinkins and Dak getting big plays. And they just gave him a big play receiver though. He's going to have even more splash lanes. Yeah. Yeah. Another thing that I like is. I like John Dorsey John Dorsey seems to be no what he do it. And he's not gonna be bothered freida kitchen higher pray to kids to be ship. He let him prepared a meal gang our Tieger like another general manager. I know that Dan half the play book, and you might have point there. I got a bunch of points there. So anyway, I haven't seen the development yet. Skip in fifty one start that I need to see that Pratt's gun throwing the football down the field. He's very very very dependent on. What is equal Elliot to have automate success? So now with that, can you imagine if Baker had that? Since he doesn't he just going to have to make doing about Jarvis Moby, Jay and Inkens Alloway and shove rock and after this eight gang suspension little boy, come Kareem hunt. Comeback thought skyhook spin on. He Baker Mayfield by lone shot. I long. Oh, interesting might turn as I said last Friday on trawler coaster. This question is unfair. This is like asking me to choose between two children because they're both like my children to me because I do love them both. And I told you long before that draft will earn thing. I said before that draft long before I'm taking Baker Mayfield number one overall and a lot of people laughed and now I don't think they're laughing because he was the right choice for John Dorsey. And now John Dorsey has been proclaimed the goat of GM's right because he picked Baker. And he went and got down window. All right. So here we go. I will give you this. If I'm picking the more entertaining player to watch. It's not even close. It's baker. I'm going to watch Baker over Dak all day and all night because he is the more spectacular thrower of the football. He is the crazier the two because he's liable to try anything at any moment and Baker Mayfield. We'll talk tragic anybody gonna throw you. There you go. Between two you remember Baker. What he did to Hugh Jackson when he went to the Bengals touchdowns and run up the field pointing addio, and if Baker doesn't like what you're doing. He might go over on his side line in disrespect you by grabbing his crotch. That's what he's capable of doing. Right. Yes. Because that's what he is made a double talk. That was not the question Jin would have a better career Dako. Baker not in the more entertaining career now who have the vet. I have to Baker his do. Now, we're down to the bottom line to this discussion. Doc will have more success as a starting quarterback than Baker Mayfield. Because Dak is better in so many bigger ways that count their subtle ways. But they're more important ways. Dak is just better. I'm going to say these things again Dak Prescott I three years in the league set the all time completion percentage record. Nobody has completed more a higher percentage of passes. Then back Prescott has for his first three years in the league. He is won the second most games over those three years to one Tom Brady up in Foxborough. And that Prescott has led the league in game winning drive so clutch factor. It's Dak because I'm not sure about Baker. I saw glimpses and flashes. And then I didn't see glimpses and flashes. I'm not sure about Baker about that. I am totally sure. Because he led the whole league for three years in game winning drives. And then who's more durable? Who's gonna stay healthier between those two. I think it's the bigger, man. It's the guy who can run with the football. Make key plays with his legs. Not the Baker can't move around. But I'm not sure that what's Baker go about six feet ish six Jess sex six feet. And maybe he ways to ten or fifteen Dax more to forty to fifty deck is he is got a knock on wood is incredibly durable. I'll give you credit. Hey, seems to be a little bit a little a little more sturdy because of the body the body the makeup structure, but he can't about Baker. And that's what it comes. You. Tell you just everytime Ginny. If you didn't nobody's well never played skip. Tell me all the time. The most important position is what the most valuable position would. And what do you need to be able to throw a football skip football. And this man rookie is already head a yoga in year three. So only get bad to head against your guy. What's? His name Carson Wentz. WINZ as in that. Wow. Ouch. Try to hey. Yeah. Try against your guy. Head to at Gerry world last year in the fourth quarter and overtime win the stakes where the highest this is for the division championship. My guy simply threw for two hundred forty three yards just in the fourth quarter and overtime and that throwing the football. If you don't mind work, if you don't mind, why did he have to do that? Because the darn it Oba. Throwing pinks. He went ahead it through before eighty five. But it took a eighty one that game. It took on the game took a four eighty five game from your quarterback a hundred fifty yard Russia, a two hundred twenty fifth LA from your running back two hundred yard day from your receiver, and you still had to go to overtime whole beggar just be dealing a guy who can't throw quote unquote, said the hall of Famer can't throw threw for two forty three. And you still think he can't throw all my guy. It'd be in the kitchen Baker in the kitchen cook it up to in Freddie's kitchen, kiddo Baker. He got a Baker really ate only using that Cleveland fluid Kabarati. I thought you liked Sam darnold better than Baker Mayfield. Hey, why don't you teach? Now, you're all in on Baker who you have Baker into kitchen aid. Oh, you you. I'm doing cooking Baker. Kitchen. I don't think anybody's gonna single you. I'm sorry. I don't think what watch TV served AFC gonna win the division. Look Baker still got that self destructive gene in him. Like he can't quite trust. Like, you don't know. 'cause I keep thinking at video him running from the cops in Fayetteville, Arkansas. They get thrown up against that retaining wall. Gene. That would be that lucky lucky. That's all league is true. Somebody else back. I don't know. You know, what turned out not might take Cleveland to have a better record? And you'll cowboy realize just say right now that's in my heart right now. I'm might take that. But my heart right night. I got to see I think. Okay. Well, let's angle toward that that because I am sniffing. Do they're kind of like do haute maker. He puts us. The he'll ask you all in on Baker. I'm surprised by our answer. Honestly. Listen. Boy, Dak Prescott is the truth. And you have not seen it. You. The light into bait. More dependable both emotionally. And strategically is Dak Prescott. I'll take him. He is the alpha this team. He is the face of the franchise. He is more trustable than Baker Mayfield on Baker. I wanna watch maker. But I trust that you watch him a win. So I got wing just keeps winning divisions. I don't know. Is that good keeps? I'm yeah. Yeah. Keep winning issue Willie won two out of three and could have won three out of four two out of four two four. Yeah, you're gonna be winning. You're gonna lose a whole nother big swimming a Walker one hundred percent. Yeah. You know that guy he has shaky and now he didn't have that Iveta tasty net medical after GM guarantee. You there have Baker at our Walker to run of that. Really? I don't think lock him anymore. Yeah. This is a big year for him. He needs to have oh, you mean bounce it to them? I forgot that yoga too long. Handoffs already are handle that on the wrong horse on this? Yeah. I saw I saw him a couple of years. They'll skip run into handed to fifty yards away. Nothing. I got the name Walker to really just a longhand really yoga. I can't do that. My guys the truth. No, my guys got another several divisions and Super Bowls. You watch you watch beggar go I like hearing you sing baker's name them. It's gone. How much do Dak Prescott has won me already? You'll get all back to. Got shannon. I promise you we'd be going back to LeBron. But I didn't tell you. It'd be any fun. This season has been a low point for the king. But just how low we will discuss. Report released their list of LeBron's biggest career failures yesterday. The Lakers potentially missing the playoffs this season ending LeBron's personal streak of eight consecutive trips to the NBA finals was fifth on the list that was behind his twenty ten conference finals loss to the big three Celtics two thousand nine conference finals loss to Dwight Howard in the magic the infamous decision where he took his talents to south beach and getting swept by the Mavericks in the two thousand eleven finals, Christopher sard is back with us. So Chris, do you agree with this list? What do you think first of all take the decision off the list? I agree. On bass. Okay. Now, I didn't have any problems that decision anyway that just make a separate. Yeah. And a lot of kids in Cleveland are still been shooters. Yeah. So I I hear you skip. And I do think quitting the Brown wanted to live out that college. He never went to college. And what do you see with high school kids when they pick in my talents or the Michigan or fluid point? There was that's what I'm really believed. There was a part of that. That's when it kind of backfired on him. But. So if we take the decision out Bleacher report headed at four I do I have it on four on my list and the three I have a head of an obviously number one is Dallas. That was his tragic. We all right. Yeah. Number two. I got number two Boston twenty ten because that that Laker. I was I covered that series for ESPN. Lebron was ridiculous in game three on a Friday night in Boston Garden. Yes. What do you? Do you want anyone or four in the first quarter at thirty eight thirty eight overall. Yeah. Like twenty four and a destruct. Yes. He was unstoppable. It was. And I always him up two games to on. And then I still don't know what happened. I don't ask for your games. There was a mystery. But but I think that number two number three was Orlando and go back to that twenty ten team though, if they had gotten past Boston, which I think they could have they had beaten the Lakers twice. They swept them during the regular season. That was when all the. Toby verse LeBron finals commercials. The lakers. They they to say they feared the cast. But they knew that that Cavaliers team gave them problems because that same has some size too. So, but anyway, if he had won that championship. That's a legacy changing type thing. Number three Orlando the year before twenty two thousand nine Dwight Howard was just it was a match up nightmare for the Cavs. They were they want sixty six games that year twenty six and he was them. And they they didn't know what to do. They couldn't guard him. And I think that is win LeBron to in my opinion. That's when the first spark entered his mind of shooters. I gotta get some superstars the next year. He didn't have either. And they were really good. But I think that's probably when it began to interest mind he needed superstars win. And so I got it at fourth the Lakers. Four other three to me are legacy. If he had won those years. Those would have been. Been legacy changing. Where's this year? Look, I think if LeBron let's say he just phase out doesn't win anymore titles and begins to get older. I don't think that's changing his legacy because he's in his sixteenth year. He's older people would look at that. So that's why I have it for. Well. I agree with you skip. I skip Chris. I took the decision. I took the two thousand eighteen final sweep. I mean, you can't say the man with that team. They actually thought so I guess if he had just won a game. We would you do you? Lebron James one one game in the twenty eight thousand five would you actually do differently? Absolutely not because he's still almost average triple double with thirty. Tell me when it's my not your average is yet cutting third the finals there's no question. I mean, there's no way around it. And that's what scared betas always goes back to even at the he won the twenty sixteen scale bane of went back and drug that up. It has man up the meltdown. Don't you know when he eleven of twenty that one the meltdown? It's chosen one goes frozen. One obeys. Like what happened? You see? What you what do you mean? Drug it up a happy twin biggest staging. Let's see what I'm saying about moment. You. Wow. You. Sponged from his leg over. I don't know. But out of the statute of limitations run out. Go ahead. You know, when to me when that comes up is when don't talk comes up. That's when it comes because you pick. But other than that hit big all the other the tragedy. Johnson moment, I would hit what you've got going refute show stuff. Yes. Obvious the meltdowns number one. But number two LeBron got a pass for this. And it just just drove me nuts. I wrote about it for ESPN dot com. I'm talking about the twenty fourteen finals, the twenty fourteen finals no-win drifting. No twenty four hurt. We got hurt. Oh splur- verse. Oh, yeah. Lebron gets a total pass for this one. Because it's one to one going to Miami for two games. That's two to one one one format. Okay. And in games three and four in his house in Miami. Lebron was just as bad as he was when he melted down in the finals against Dallas, go back and look at it. Go back every look what he had twenty two in the first game with seven turnovers, and listen, I know his game. He was completely disengaged. He was out of it. He played with no passion, no conviction. It looked like he was unplugged from the basketball game. And again, I'm root for the Spurs. And I'm just sitting watching saying what are you doing? This is the turning point. If you win this game, you're backing control of the finals. And then in the fourth game at home. He did score twenty eight but he had only to assist in that game in both of those home games. He barely got to the free throw line because he was not in attack mode in either. Game their team, obviously was on one. Okay. But LeBron was by far the best player on the floor. I just was I know I'm sorry. Twenty eight and six. But but in the end, they get blown off. He was minus twenty one in both those home games. Lebron James's minus twenty one. You can't defend that that was just wrong. Like he wasn't into it. Maybe he looked Wayne head. I can't do this Dwayne. I don't know you got that is number tiger number two because they got blown off the floor by a record finals March. I shot a record of Martin, but Duncan Ginobili and Parker were you want to talk about aging? They were way up there and about three that it was not going down. Some in. Dana granny. Exactly, okay. But but we're was LeBron. I don't know where he went remember glamour in game one eight and six it was not LeBron was okay. Number three for me is that Boston series because it was in my friends, Stephen a Smith at ESPN reported that somebody in the camp said that LeBron had to be sedated before games that'd be four five and six because he was having a locker room issue. I don't wanna go into the gory details. But you remember all this? Got people don't go. Well, everybody knows what it was. But but the point was I don't know what happened because after the maybe the greatest playoff game he ever played in game three. Then I don't know he unplug she just disassociates like I'm not into this anymore. And Dan Gilbert went so far as accusing him of quitting in that series. Well, that's that's a low point. And then number four to me you talked about last year's finals. But when he patted after the broke down at the end of the game in game one they had them on the ropes that was a low point for me watching. Yes. I if you if you breakthrough win game one, I don't know what's going to happen. You had them dead to rights. Lebron should've taken the last shot. But whatever it all. Okay. Okay. I'll give you all that. Whatever happened. It's still tied going to overtime and LeBron goes and sits down at the end of the bench, and he won't even engage in the sideline before overtime. And then he pouts won't shoot in overtime. That's a low point to me. He's better than that. He's as all time. Great. Where do you have this? Okay. Where this season. Okay. You know, what I don't put it on the list because it was just a squandered opportunity. He had a chance this year to do the greatest thing he's ever done, which if he took these kids to the four seed, and they got to the conference files, I would add to sit here and say, that's just great. That's all time. That's that's the quivalent of taking cadavers because they're all just kids, and you're going to carry them all the way. Okay. But they did. And I don't know what happened with the pulled groin. I still. He tweeted the next day. I keep bringing it on interior lodged a bullet back in. No. And then the Lakers got upset with him because he wouldn't come back because they thought he was clear. The doctors cleared him to come back and remember Rich Paul got angry about it. I don't know what happened. But it just it just went up in smoke the whole year. It got off to such a great start. And then it just went away. But I can't put it as a disappointment because they did have so many injuries. I don't know what hap- if I don't mind if you don't mind me asking that twenty ten finals, do yoga railing will be in the hall of fame. Oh, my bad. He made it what about Kevin Garnett. You think going to be a hall of Famer the twenty CompuServe? Semi. What about Paul appears all three of Holo? So you wanna make sure I'm here you correctly. Now. I know a guy they got swept twice by team ahead. Three hall of famers. It ain't nobody saying they hold that against it. Now, LeBron we don't think you don't have twenty ten on your list of Boston. No, the reason I have I don't think anybody's fought him for losing to that team. But the way it happened those they had them beat. I agree, and I was talking with he had to elbow. I don't know something was going on with the Birla. He was playing. I wrote my column that next after game three this is LeBron James when he's angry because everybody was on about the elbow and you're making excuses. He went out there upset and demolished. It was again, I don't know. I'll know what it's all types of stuff that may have happened to lead him to into that phone, right? But just the way it happened. It was 'cause I thought I look I always felt when LeBron went to Miami. He sold himself short because I thought he was good enough to win a championship that cast of cadavers. If italy. Well, he'd have been the going back date, if you know what he'd been made a K he would have been on that path and he knew himself better than I knew him, obviously. But I felt that was a chance that team I got twenty two thousand nine I think that game against Orlando with when it clicked LeBron I need shooters like the White House. So when they come double me, I gotta Turkoglu. I got Louis. I got me care patriots. That's against what he got. He had a playmaker. D wade. But then he surrounded himself with Mike millery alad all the same script because he at the shot heard round the world to win game. Choose and then. Orlando Orlando just beat them. I mean, it was they couldn't match up with them Boston. If LeBron had been himself. I think they beat ball who. Big three in Boston. Who wrote it up father time? The head father. That's right because they know libra will LeBron Perkins away before okay with the broad with new games. That's mainly. Undercutting your point the point was he destroyed them a game three and a hat him on the ropes had him on their heels on what I don't know. What happened also have any winter Miami? Anyway. An had a by what we see. Now, the days of a single guy getting you there. That's why K D Katie laughing go join his team. They usually everybody trying to pair up with somebody Kawai ain't trying to go to LA by the clippers by himself. Everybody trying to pair. Okay. Why might? Why do why do you think about his legacy? Right. The NBA. I gotta get my I get here. On the ball. About that, greedy. Getting there. I heard you got. Rhino make. If negative right now. Ten files. He got down play locked-in does. He mind he has tend to notice in he's on a load management skate. Really? No. Oh, she. Good to have you with us. Always. Okay. Should the cowboy sign Eric berry? We'll discuss that. Move onto skips. Cowboys though, been very quiet so far and free agency. But it could pick up today when safety Eric berry is expected to visit the five time pro bowler was released by the chiefs last week. And he's only played three games in the last two seasons. The Cowboys still have a bunch of their own players to sign and Steven Jones said Bill need to be called super creative with that. It's a good quote or joined by FOX NFL analyst Mark sheriff Mark is Eric berry. The answer for the Kabul was the purse off. What's the question? Super Bowl or box. Here's he can make a difference. When I look at a Cowboys, roster wise, they are a young talented roster. When you look at it. It's twenty three twenty two twenty four twenty five twenty six twenty five twenty. That's what the roster looks like airing Shannon's, right? They're young. They're of young very talented roster to me to me, you need a rudder. Right. You need to ship has to have a rudder. And that to me is a veteran quality guy that glues people together. Now, Eric Bury's phenomenal player win healthy. The problem is he hasn't been healthy and a couple of years, right? He hasn't played a lot of games. But you look at some you look at any lock room dynamic, especially with young players. You have to have a couple of veteran guys at glue people together, especially during the tough times and the bumps that come in any season. So to me he would be a great answer for the Cowboys from a leadership standpoint from a guidance standpoint, and basically bringing young players along you always I always say with. Any team you need a few adults in the room. Like, it's good to have young guys is good. Add the energy, it's good app athleticism and all that. But you need a few adults to make sure they're they've been guided in the right direction. Eric berry certainly will provide that to a football team. I definitely believe you'd be upgrade over a of heat over heath. The question is given what price and that's what that's what I think the Cowboys are trying to figure out he understand. This is probably going to be his last contract. And he's not gonna want one of these contracts. You know, okay. Two million dollars in every game that you're active. We'll give you another hundred and fifty thousand he doesn't want the incentive based contract. He wants. He's got he saw what Landon Collins got he sees the safety market around the league. He said it what is his safety mocking though. If you don't look at it like we see that skill. Everybody'll be like osteotomy the guy that with all of Provo. You mentioned he went to five Pro Bowl first team, all pro. And the last time we remember him healthy healthy when he had a tremendous job will rob gronkowski on that Thursday night game start the season. That's the way he still sees himself even at the achilles injury. Even after the heel injury in which he missed as a jitney said twenty nine of a possible, thirty two games. He's still see themselves as that guy skit. So he sees himself is that guy that guy should be paid. You know, thirty million dollars guaranteed. She's not gonna get that. And so the question is. What if he willing to accept says, you know, what this is a team that I can really as far as stink elite alluded to as far as leadership I make some plays. I can make decent money. But I might be the missing piece to get this team over the hump. I would agree with that. I think one thing really quick skip. I think it comes down to are you willing to be realistic with where you're at in your career, and how much does winning a championship still factor into that? Because you look at the Cowboys and you look at the NFC east and you look at the talent. And they've mass the young talent they've amassed I still look at them as a contender with the right pieces falling into place, and you have to come to grips with where am I might career and is a championship more important than guaranteed money. Okay. By the way, fell dot com has reported that Robert Quinn. He's now property the Miami Dolphins. He was there very quietly last year because I lost touch with them. At five sacks. But I don't remember any of them. Right. He's on his way to Dallas. And they are in trade talks with the dolphins for Robert Quinn. And he's going I guess interview in Dallas today. Randy Gregory out. Maybe Robert Quinn would be stopgap. My I don't know. I just didn't. I don't remember him making plays last year. Not no he hadn't been rhythm. Same. He got injured in L at the Rams really been the same. It'd be a heck of a path Roach off the age, I agree with every point you made about Eric berry. It's more in his stature in experience in who used to be that I love because I don't think he's ever going to be that guy. Just have a gut feeling. He's just had too many things. Go wrong with his body to be that guy. Most of interest allure. They are Sara Lee need to be able to ruin achilles. Not good. You're usually never quite the same Randall Cobb. I would value even more highly because they lost Beasley and Randall Cobb only twenty eight years of age and he was haunted all last year by hamstring. It wasn't a pull I think it was a tear if he's right and healthy at the right price. He could bring a lot of pop to that offense because you can play. Randall Cobb outside as well. As in the slot. I think he's all purpose. You can run him. You can do he's he's he's like an even better on Austin right now that you could do things with on offense. So I like that addition. But in the end, these are all great problems to have because it's still a young talented roster. And you made this point earlier, I'm going to reinforce it. They need to prioritize signing Zeke, I resigning extending Zeke, Elliot he's earned it. He deserves it. He's got the shortest window of any position. And again, I know what they did DeMarco Murray, and it was not pretty what they did. They used him up in two thousand fourteen and then they said, thank you very much goodbye. And I don't want to see that happen Zeke. I don't think he has a big window in this league. You probably got runs the way he's running the touches probably two to three years match and then combat who at this level where you're leading the league in rushing, maybe two more big years. But after that he is. Hi collision. He runs through brick walls like on third and short. Aegis takes on anybody. We know a guy like that don't we play one got to Super Bowl. He didn't mean. And then what happened? I mean, he took he took a he got his knee. But when you start getting that four hundred three show you get two thousand yards. You gotta have almost four hundred carries 'cause that's five yards. A carry them at Terrell Terrell Davis. And then he was seventeen fifty year before that. And then fifteen plus the year before that it takes care to get to those numbers. Elway could not have done what he did without guy. We were running team. We made a mistake in in the playoff game to the visual game against Jacksonville. All of a sudden, we thought we were passing team, and we got away from that. Did you not have a great offensive line? We did we got we we they wanted him all people. They wanted to run them out. It just it just takes toll as far as Stephen Jones is concerned saying that we're going to have to be creative. Yeah. That's that's the business, but you can be creative because you can give long money and save your cap space have to give long money to the right guys. Right. When you go along money, you gotta have the right guys. Give long money. All right. So I had my heart set on Earl Thomas because he he's not only a made man, but he can still play. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's Eric berry with ability left with with great years. Maybe two or three great. And I don't know four or five great years and out of the blue as he said yesterday and his interview in Baltimore came the ravens, and they didn't just offer him this. And that they offered him the best contract on the market. Right. Even better than Landon Collins God in Washington. Well, Dallas can't compete with that. So I say, God bless you. Would you do if you wanna guy Reggie you? Just go ahead and put your best offer on the table and make him an offer he can't refuse. He said he took the ravens offer in two hours a hand complete because thinking eat anymore talk to Dallas because over because here's the thing. Skip you low ball agai somebody comes in and they offer more. And then you come back. He's like you did at the beginning. So graves that we lost we release. Well, we like Jefferson Jefferson's a box safety. Earl Thomas steal can roll. Let's go ahead and make it happen. It's a great move for the raven Kabul's needed get the Cowboys couldn't do this move. You can't spend that kind of money on safety. When you have all these guys that need money on your own team. Take your basic homestate discount. That's that's one of the things it's important for Dallas in this process to remember. And I think this important for anything if you don't take care of the guys that are homegrown your locker room starts to look at management and say, whoa, whoa. The only guys wanna play or guys who haven't helped build where we are right now. It's not the appropriate way to go about it. So that moved to me is an important move taking care of your home grown talent. You're running back your quarterback. Those guys you're pass rusher. That's that's an important aspect of billion football team quality will matter they can take care all and it's going to be the same things remind you. The last year we won the division and a playoff game in almost one a second playoff game with Jeff heat and exhibitor woods at Safeco. They're pretty good. I'm not saying they're great while I'm gonna make pro bowls. But they're pretty good football player. Why of why wasn't Janet I invited to the parade. You got winning a playoff game. We don't throw parades. Exactly. We've got Super Bowl. Here's got a whole office full of Super Bowl trophy that. He years you combine J her saying, he ain't got much time. Now that would be the white keeps out with that. He was spitting last time. You went one he hit LA sent. And that's how we can. I don't even know about it won a playoff game last year and almost one to win the one score game of laws. One to thirty fourteen date lead quarterback goes not a play never stop marriage. Good to have you always Colby says the Lakers while they should just look the roster as the mama, right? Legend Kobe Bryant was asked about the teams failed attempt to trade for Anthony Davis, and he didn't hold back Koby namedrop Calcutta's Malone's of ball and Brandon Ingram as potential trade. Chip saying, quote, Anthony Davis is one of the best players in the world. Not now in history if you can sign Anthony Davis, you just do it, Shannon. Are you surprised we said this? Gobi speaking through. We'll be saying he's as one of the best in history math that would number say number say skipping. That's what they base everything analytics and number or as postseason numbers. But he only by the twenty five. Yeah. So guess what? Kobe Bryant understand in order to win titles. You need players and the more good players. You have great plans. You have the better your chances are Colby. You know, what colon likes a lot of things? He loves the Lakers. He loves the Lakers having success. And right now, this is not good for him. He doesn't like to see his team the team that he was basically brought up in twenty years. What he five champion say. Now, we better than that. That's not the lake of that. I remember I don't wanna see him struggle anymore. So. Yeah, it we gotta trade Lonzo. If we gotta trade, lavar, jello Ingram, Kouzmouk statue, Anna banner to get a D. We do that. Really? Yeah. That's what we willing to give up. So everybody on the Brian. Now, we got Kobe. What are the great Lakers? They get them up get up outta here code. I wanna hear what they gotta say. Now, call all LeBron say trade for eighty he's a it would be a pleasure. It would be honor. They would someone like Anthony Davis. Remember Kobe's new role with the Lakers is as an ambassador. Right. Yes. So I was surprised he spoke out this strongly because I don't think Jeanie Buss love this because Jeanie Buss has tried to not down all the talk about all those young players who offer down. Well, it she called it fake news. I do not like again, she's gonna love that Kobe reinforced the growing sort of mystique of this trade, you know, the fact that this was happening. Probably not right Gene-o are lying years. Well, there you go. That's the point. So now to Kobe's point my point was at the trade deadline, if in fact, the Lakers were saying take any of the kids are all the kids you want. I don't know how it worked against the cap. But if they had thrown in remember, they still had zoo Botts. So it's Lonzo coups MMA BI, zoo bots and a first round pick. I'm saying, that's that's a great deal for the pelicans that would start in the pelicans over because zoo bots can play and by the way, the clippers got him. Now, they probably would have been willing to go to two first round of you can't train round picks them back to back years. So it had been twenty twenty twenty nineteen twenty twenty one but skip about four so twenty nineteen twenty one twenty. Three twenty five and all that it's certain that you turn that deal down. It's just too good for one player who I still I'm gonna say it again about Anthony Davis. I respect him. I admire what he puts up. He's the arc in this league. He's at the top PR PR year after year, that's player efficiency rating. And yet does he make his teammates better not enough? And I don't know why. Or why not it's just there's something missing in him because he's more of a complementary superstar would he be good with LeBron? He'd be great. I think they need each other. But I also think as LeBron goes in the year seventeen that Anthony Davis would not be enough. If you trade all those kids away, then how do you restock complimentary? So okay sugar taste good by theft. Or does it taste good and Kate pies ice cream carpets just straight into power? What thank you for bringing that up. Anthony Davis is a lot of empty cash Oga with them. I run it watch it why don't like sugar to avoid June. It I love. Well, you can't avoid it because it gets hidden in a lot of. So guess what? When we get it. We'll show you what about you. How to use year seventeen. So if you just got LeBron and AD L LA somebody giving away Lonzo and Kouzmin Brandon Ingram, and whatever else they give them the way, we got something in return. Swap ain't no swim. Who else is going to play with these? They're going to go to on five every skill. Everybody would exceptional behalf. Now, we were to trade those guys that we still got we still got to make to make a move. We still can make a move 'cause we got another spot at about fifteen. We ain't going to give thirty million that we gave LeBron AD. But we gotta moving hit somebody with a fifteen piece. I know, but the gods sin move, what would save LeBron going into your seventeen eighteen is K D in kyri. Okay. Because then if because you get them on the open market, you do not have to trade for them. What if you could keep all the kids, and Katie and Kyrie now, you got it because you've taken Katie away from Golden State and you brought Kyrie here. Your golden. That'd be. Yeah. That'd be unbelievable. I would love that move. But I don't see that happen. Okay. Well, that's game. Over move. You got a shot at winning a couple of championships until we win them until the Barbara ties to after your twenty one really, well, it looks like he's getting close knit goaded s q. Here's the thing guys. Lebron he's going to be sitting out to nicely. I told you. We're going to talk about. Speaking of those Lakers. Well, they are on the road tonight against the bucks LA has lost eight of their last nine LeBron will sit out tonight with a sore left groin and Janas onto Bo is questionable with a sprained ankle, so Shannon. What do you make of LeBron sitting out risk don't risk out? Don't Ripa Edry. He's not injured. You got a sore left. Glowing half of sorts or skip is a sore left ego. No shot, blah, our heart sore left growing clears no sense in risking anything. Jeopardy. We're gonna finish this out the right way. That's the only way we know. How to play? Really? Yes. We're gonna finish this thing. The right way, we're gonna show these young guys that we don't quick even though the all seems to be lost. The that's not what we do here and sharp. What if you predicted that your man LeBron James will pass Kareem Abdul-Jabbar the greatest score in the history of this league? He is now six thousand point shy of Korean right? If he averaged twenty seven points a game, it would still take about three more seasons. Playing all eighty two games to catch and pass Reema Abdul Jabbar. Well, that means this is a precious game at Milwaukee. Maybe no Jaanus, no brogden for sure why wouldn't you just go up there and try to get his twenty seven you need every game to count. Throwing Nick we're not just look at it like. Okay. Lebron signed for three more years, but we play beyond that contract. Really? Have you been watching them lane? Okay. Next year's you're seventeen. The next is eighty Sean. China's gonna make it twenty seven point four eight. That's what I say every year like clockwork. No, no, no, no, no, no probably year eighteen probably be twenty five year. Five. Well, that's a staggering plummeting twenty five. Yeah. You know, another guy average because I'm not sure he can you won't bit nothing. You know, what Corinne is? He's out. There is you're not gonna catch walk. You know? No racist. Somebody had a run a beat way out. They're like no chance they get six thousand more. Thanks for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm Johnny tapped. Join us again at the same time tomorrow morning, nine thirty eastern. See you then. Of of.

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 535 The League is Turning Upside Down (3-14-2019)

GSMC Football Podcast

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 535 The League is Turning Upside Down (3-14-2019)

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything football on the Golden State media concepts football podcast, your latest news on and off the field. Be it college football big ten SEC big twelve Pac twelve ACC to the NFL with got you covered. Listen to the Golden State media. Cut sets football podcast. GMC football podcast brought to GMC podcast network. I'm your host Jeff balance lettuce get right into it. So with the chiefs signing the Honey badger to a forty two million dollar contract and have a safety the cut ties there berry. The five time pro bowler is now on the market. And I think he's gonna get picked up really soon. He's still he's injury prone. Absolutely. He was kinda riddled with injuries last season. He's a question, Mark. But I don't know why won't be such the worst idea to have a one year Provea deal with them. Honestly, I see that as a potential possibility and. With that being said. Are the chiefs better with the Honey badger than Eric berry? Because honestly, it was the defensive scheme that kind of caused them wasn't just a particular player or particular the defense the team the town the diva ties on the field. They had Eric berry. Go one on one with gronkowski. And they as championship game multiple times and never worked gronk kicking the ball. Tom Brady kept saying, oh, look there's grunk out playing a guy. He out sizes by like a good foot. It looks like any he also out. He's also more strong stronger than he is he could probably out. He probably can catch it outside of that all that outside of all the. Outs. Okay. Outside the reach of Eric berry. It just was a bad. It was just a bad mismatch which led to. Airfare unable to stop gronkowski in the AFC championship game which led to the patriots winning and let him go into the Super Bowl in winning a six one. So. With that being said is it? His fault about his poor play against the patriots. What's the poor defensive skinny was in? I would honestly put it on the scheme rather than the player itself. But again, I could be totally wrong in that in that circumstance. And you know, it just feels like to me that there's more potential in Iraq berry. There's still more left on the tank very very than most people realize whoever picks him up. He could still be a quality starting to get still get the job done for the the team. He gets signed to. I mean, a one year deal may be two year deal. But I I wouldn't go to four year deal. Obviously. I wouldn't go. I would say maybe three. I think three's a a safe bet in that circumstance. So. I don't know it just it's a tough subject, obviously to go on tough subject to strong word. But just it's a tough thing to really utilize say, what's his main strengths is. He still is he's still can you stay healthy throughout the season as well. I think that's also a big factor in this. So with that being said, I think he can be a big factor. I think he's still can't be a big playmaker for a team can boost up a defense. Like he can't make it any worse defense. Right. I mean, he's not that. He's not to have a player. He's player. They'll make them better one way or another either is like just motivational skills or on his on the field skills. I think it just can work either way or both ways. But to me, I just feel more along the lines of how. How? Eric berry kinda got kinda got. Kind of the swept the rugs snatched underneath them while nuts. Halting I thought berries, give me a chief life, but doesn't look like three that way. I mean, I don't think he's gonna retire. But I am assuming he's going to get time. Another team. And with that being said what team is gonna go to. I'll see a team with needed with in need of a lot of help on defense. Of course. So I mean, maybe a team that's a win. Now state. I would assume it's really hard to tell where he end of going if he goes anywhere, busy, my we might just like call a career retire because he's he's been league for that long. So it's really hard to say how everything's really going to play out with with the Eric berry and his future in the NFL. I mean, I guess maybe the AFC doesn't find any one. But I doubt it will go down that low, and I just think that. Matthew is era. Methyl is of the Honey badger is a better is a busy younger and he's in his prime and less injury prone. I believe and I think it just be a best bet if he's they move on from berry. But I think other teams should really look at Eric berry. And really take advantage of the fact that he's a free agent and signed him. I really do. I think he'd be a great dish in any team. I think he has what it takes through. Well in this in the NFL. Despite all the entries and despite the cancer he overcame. Fortunately. It's just one of those things where it's like, you gotta get this another opportunity. He has the talent to be better than he is right now. That's how that's how I truly feel at least. So that being said at least I thinking where Eric berry. He will be signed by. Let's say Sunday I will say you'll be signed by Sunday. And I'm standing by that standby. I really am. And. The bottom line is for this particular cut. It's probably one of those prising cuts of the year. Like, I knew they sign the free safety Honey badger nothing. Okay. They can just guess Eric just give you the backup over there or split time with him. But now they just outright cut them. So. You know what what team should have? I write Cottam zeal giants in Eli manning. But they currently have kept him in the loop. He's apparently they planned all this out. And he's going to still be there starting quarterback. But that's not the biggest news. The thing. That's really like Trinita league. Upside down to me is a fact that the Browns are Super Bowl contender everyone sick. And the patriots are not gonna go back to Super Bowl. The Steelers are not doing good. They look like they are in a in a down in serious down themselves. And you know, it just. It seems more along the lines of just a. It seems more along the lines of just like is this? Is the beginning of a new era in the NFL? And I honestly think it is. New teams for new new teams gaining serious momentum game serious. Like leverage. I guess maybe ledger is the wrong word, but just like the the Browns are improving so much impressing everybody, and I mean, everybody that watches football. Everyone's oppressed that the Browns are heaven proved so much getting an all pro for steam, all pro wide receiver. No Beckham junior. Getting Kareem hunt having Trump as well. Baker Mayfield Jarvis Landry that offense looks pretty stack to me and thirteen and three is still what I'm considering. They're going to be this season due to a fairly weakened AFC north except for the ravens who Bruce their defense by getting Earl Thomas, but yes, law CJ Moseley and tros AG's, but they also gain marking the running back position which may help the mar- Jackson. And not giving him as many snaps running. The ball is often these he was before. Because let's be honest. Lamar jazzy. Can I run the ball thirty times game? He's going to get her big time if that's gonna happen. So having a strong bruiser back. Mark Ingram can only benefit the read option that hopefully they will use with the ability of the Mark Jackson and the ability of marking grim, but we'll see what they come up with on thinking that the railings will take a wildcard spot. But I still see the Browns winning they'll entire division. And it's just a fun. It just a weird time to be around. You know, just like like when you think of. We knew think of elite teams in the NFL the Browns of the last person on your list the Jaguars. Well, the times are probably pretty low in. They're also you put alive teams up there as a team coming from the brink of insanity. Two now at brink of success. Like the Jaguars they have now the six seven pick in the draft which say, I don't think they will need to go for quarterback anymore projected, but they do add boost to they're already steadied in elite defense or help out Nick foles and get them like a wide receiver or something. I'm not sure, but there's plenty of opportunities and plenty of possibilities for these new ball clubs that are getting more and more talented. I mean, even the jets got a big linebacker CJ Moseley as well as arguably the best running back in the game in into Neo Brown. So I really don't know how else to react to this. It just seems so unreal. That all these teams that we really looked at as. What's what's the word below underdogs? I mean that was them, basically. And then they become a serious contenders in their own respected divisions. Maybe not the raiders, maybe not the cheese. Definitely. The California teams that have done well like four Niners up their defense as well. And it just seems like all the TS to do better doing getting better. And that's the beauty of the sport. And that's this game. And I'm really looking forward to see what else happens in this season. I got my phone on me. Just as anything it signed today. I'll check right now, actually speaking that that will. Any no the unexpected NFL draft. Like, we're looking at the giant says potentially driving doing Haskins. How state if culinary does go number one overall, which seems like that is included as well. But really don't know what the outcomes are going to be in other of those question marks that they have. But regardless I think it's one along the lines of. I guess I guess patients when it comes down the offseason because you want the season star now, but it's not so you just gotta bite your tongue away to wait just a little bit longer. But we're going to short break right now when we come back I want to I want to talk more about. Josh Rosen and him potentially being a New York China in the future. We'll get right on that. When we return. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team? Check out the GMC fantasy football podcast. Get today's best advice to start who to sit even who you should draft from sleeper. Paixao red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That's GSM. See podcasts dot com slash fantasy. Dash football dash Fahd cast. We'll cover traditional leagues dynasty PR. Even I impede leads when you need fantasy. Hope there's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like on Facebook and follow them on Twitter. Visit GS MC podcast dot com. For more info. Welcome back. Everyone of the GS MC football podcast. We just finished talking about some other stuff that can happen in the world of football. As it turns upside down with all these free agency moves now, let's get more discussed much frozen as he is tied with the New York Giants at the moment as there are their thoughts of the cardinals going for calamari with the first overall pick. But that's it's so hard to tell because they Josh Rosen from last year. But if they do. Trey Josh Rosen the best possible place probably the best seller. They're gonna get is the near giants. And the thing with that is. The best place for Josh Rosen is sitting behind a quarterback does what kind of horror back just sitting behind a quarterback and just taking a rest for a season Rena playbook understanding defensive schemes against those your offense and working from there. You can get better by observing. You can get better by doing homework, you get better. But so, and so you know, what I mean, it just feels like you don't need to be on the field as a starter to really improve. You can be off-field improve. In more ways than one. So. That's how I see mainly there. But while mine for Judd, Josh Rosen is he's gonna go. If he does go to team in New York, the giant. And he does and he says buying Brady. He can improve Brady's me li- any can improve. I mean, so many great quarterbacks have had short breaks one season two seasons or three and seriously improve Aaron Rodgers petro home. So the too I think about and they're they've been both NFL MVP's. So it's one of those things you're looking at it and going, wow, maybe we should look at resting our quarterback and not play him right away. As soon as we drive to put him into lion's den where he can risk injury lose a ton of confidence and all his other things. Like, wow, this wasn't as easy as I thought it was going to be type of scenario where they join. And they know what they're getting those into. So that being said, it seemed that Jerry Kim was very okay with the process. I was going on. I think because he's getting overnight zeal tear injury. Garoppolo Oris an ACL tear as Cornell now Guinea over and. ACL tear. They all have something to prove the all have this chip on their shoulder. And I think they all come in with a lot of confidence. And with that being said fight between like, let's let's let's let's look at this. If the giants get Rosen in the next two years are the playoff team. No. But if Josh Rosen a sitting out those two years, then it comes back midway through that midway through that season or the next season. Why can't he be improved quarterback? Why can't he be a better quarterback? Let's face it the team he was on the cardinals. They were terrible. Their offense. Align was awful. He couldn't get a throw off in time. He had like two or three seconds in the pocket at heights of all someone was after him like he had a scramble insanely fast. So that's why I'm putting hesitant when I'm thinking about like people saying, oh, he didn't throw the vulgar. Well, all these other flaws that he had regarding his regarding Josh Rosen in his first year as incorrect for the cardinals. But I feel you can't blame him for the majority of that stuff due to the fact of like how poor that team was in general, and you can't just put it on the rookie quarterback. You gotta put others responsible. And that's that's one of the head coach fired him, not sure, but he was held responsible for those actions. For those words that horrible record. They have for the first overall pick they have. And now you're in a big question. Go saying like, okay. Would we do? Now type both types. Oreo. So that being said. I honestly think Josh Rosen. Call from heaven is him going to the near giants in a trade. 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