20 Episode results for "Epi Center"
Featured Interview with Michael Gale
"This is the breakfast leadership podcast boundaries. Burn outed you make the choice. Here's your host like eleven Welcome back we're going to have a lively conversation today with Michael. Gail how are you? I'm great I'm looking forward to this Really interesting subject matters if we can inspire people to move from construct to imagination action foster eight. Oh definitely your background. You've been in some interesting industries for for quite a long time but they we're going to talk about what we've heard about and seen a lot about and that's ai an end there's organizations and we know that we're going to see completely different world in a very short period of time and while many people are paying for it and they're getting ready. We're finding that many organizations and individuals aren't doing anything to get prepared for this so let's dive right into it and you know what prompted you to get involved in into this arena. Well I've written a book on Digital Transformation Digital Helix. It's the number one selling book on digital transformation globalized we'll journalist and that was sort of an inevitable migration from that book to discuss about Ai because the truly digitally form an organization maybe the shoppers point of that spare is the application of artificial intelligence at the sort of EPI center said the bows but y but at the epicenter of an organization's DNA so we started tracking mascot five six seven years ago and lost. Your particularly interesting to three interest is research about well. What people on the journey where they deniers where they accepting it but on acting were they acting in failing or were they sort of accepting acting succeeding in getting results and only six percent? Just six percent of the global. Two thousand actually believe have activated on getting results of a USA date a process stainless this other. What with Microsoft and IBM sightless a truce? Hey that while we will talk about. It is a really difficult pathway to success so this isn't so delight telling the COP driving. It requires an almost complete. We architecture the way we think about profitable successful. Trump's phoned organizations in. I've seen it time and time again even in recent history when the US economic recession back in two thousand eight and nine organizations that were agile or able to adapt and adjust to the new marketplace. They're still around but the organizations that didn't that were stuck in their ways either. Were blown away or they're barely surviving and and even even going back to the DOT COM era embarrassed to say you know that was twenty years ago but it is. He'll you blinken. You know two decades Fi. I was involved in that and it was an absolute Zini time. It was fun. I'll tell you that it was really fun to work in the IT space had just all the innovation and everything was going on but then it hit a plateau in the organizations. That didn't have a plan going past the ping pong tables and fancy coffee. You know. Those organizations are gone and have been gone. Where once like okay? What do we want this organization to look like in the next ten to twenty years those conversations constantly need to be had and with a I in all the innovation that we've seen so far in the absolutely amazing stuff that we're hearing about seeing this coming down the Pike Organization seem to get ahead of that and and start thinking. How can we apply that to where we are? And sometimes they have to step outside of the box and figure out. What do we need to do differently? How we've been doing work is not how we're going to be doing work. There was some interesting. I mean this one exercise we constantly say organizations that are outside that sex percent which is fuel sector. Go out and find a hundred examples. Not Ninety five one hundred two hundred examples of WED digitally transform processes on the application of a ally are changing the nature that organization so give a simple a simple example of one in healthcare so in the UK the UK. Medical therapy ran an experiment. They put a hundred patients in front of a a system over the phone and one hundred patients in a doctor's office a make tracks how well diagnosed the eye patients were compared to the diagnosis delivered. By the actually in person a no touchy. Dublin sort of visual or they ask is to malls basically three times more effective in incorrect diagnosis compelled to the individual patients. Went into a doctor's office. Just imagine this right you get onto a system interact with that system. You have to get into the car. Drives THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE AN APPOINTMENT. Did a you could literally. Instant may have more effective diagnosis. The rest of the question announcer process with an eye on June. The one that has gone through in seven years of medical diagnosis now the. Ai Engine is clearly an amalgam of millions of people's of knowledge which is amazing and a doctor can only be in Amalgam of experience through it but we always argue. Get in a room a give everybody opportunity to find ten of these situations and get ten people to bring these ten in. Put Him on a wall walk around. Not Ruben say. That's the new well listening because I think the only way to get this to happen with velocity and accuracy is to use living examples of organizations doing well to understand what it could look like the dot com era which is very locked in bill the website at connect some of your front and back office in Aarp Processes Together. This is a far deeper. More holistic reexamination of Walk Service and requirements will look like going forward and it's impossible for one person to have a vision towards the dot. Com era was driven by has sales head of. It may just got together. This has to be a more collective process you gotta to see that vision in a deeper wide away. A great exercise in because it falls a level of commitment comprehension is not available to one of us. All of us can actually work it out long term. Sorry no it's perfect segue has since you had a conversation earlier with somebody on communication and in those rooms you have all these people. Communication is important because of course everyone is coming to the table. They've got their own experiences. Thoughts belief patterns and all these other things. Everyone else in the room has the same thing going on. Sometimes if you are over committed to an outcome that you'd like to see sometimes that can mask your clarity. When it comes to seeing everything and being open minded and all of his suggestions because again this is something where you're looking at something. That is so really new to so many of us. Were trying to equate an answer to something that many people may they simply don't understand it and that's okay It's actually fun from my vantage point. Because you can't what can't it do you know? And that's and that's where he starts struggling. While we're seeing all kinds of things I've seen so much to see even in in the entrepreneurial space when it comes to social media copy writing. Yeah there's stuff out there that you know can write a book or blog posts for you. And it's all he just put in some things and you let it rip in away goes in. It utilizes your style of writing at analyze. It's it's absolutely amazing. I worked in healthcare for over a decade and I'm not shocked because the human brain of a physician or medical provider is again limited based on what they comprehend the experience. They've had and all of that. But something where you have all the algorithms that could possibly be known at this particular point in time they can actually deduct and go. It could be one of these. Three things were human. Might say well it's going to be one of maybe a dozen things or even more so it's utilizing the technology that way is going to make things better for all of us now. Of course you know the big debates is GONNA put everybody out of work and I'm like I don't that they said the same thing about cars and got more people working on the planet now than ever in the race. There was an issue I mean. Meanwhile the organizations we we researched thousands where they had said those that. Really get it right because of the twenty eight percent have a deep commitment to some variety of AI. Basically invest three times as much on killing that stuff across arranger skill sets an organization that they were into reality but the not being successful digitally transforming. So there's no doubt. The human capital retraining is a really vital part of this again if you look health checks on the best examples raven retail right. They are radically re engineering. Walk unique to do within a healthcare organization physically digits late and the same is true in retail nickleby black Zara Have elevated the power of that frontline worker really. Wow what is clear though is this is gonna be a faster and deeper revolution the macaw or even in the industrial revolution. In Britain from the seventy six days the move ever say. An you know when you look at millennials. Probably having fifty jobs over their career Matt includes the generation competitive. Bouma's the need to be agile. Have what I call a few adaptive sort of I q emotionally cute is GonNa be. Really important policy success. I think it's scary for companies because at one level. They've got this. This sort of tension between get costs out of the system do ninety percent what needs to be done automatically system and then they get a hold waiting. Max is good as cooperation. Innovation is in aptitude attacked with a staff and was sucking air out of employees designed to what can places if just seen as replaceable packs a tough leadership question but most executives are too frightened. Lonza even too frightened to put out as a question. Lovey mentioned how organizations are doing really. Well are the ones that invest heavily in the training of their employees. It's ongoing and that's a huge concern in many sectors right now even without discussing Artificial intelligence for a moment organizations are having a tough time finding people with the skills that they need because there hasn't been this investment by other organizations to train people on these skills. So you have an employee that spend with you for twenty years for example That Mormon exception than the norm anymore but they do exist and sometimes those organizations will. They've been here forever. And we'RE NOT GONNA bother training them like your shortchanging them because they're dedicated as an employee they obviously like it here for some reason. So why aren't you investing in them making them learn some new things and ask them? What would you like to learn? And when there is new initiatives who'd like to be part of this committee to research this and you'll find the ones that are really engaged are absolutely thrilled to be able to participate in any type of training organization. I'm helping out right now. They were starved for training. And well we need to implement this and this and this because of the sector of their in. It's like these system ongoing thing so let's go outside of the box and train you a little bit on this because these are some things that we see will be coming down in maybe three or four years but let's get you exposed to now so when it actually gets implemented you're hitting the ground running. You already know how to do it. I actually think the idea of training people to be careful this the sort of ETA version of themselves where it matters than other words there are train. Ability is important in the commercial world as it has been in the NFL Major League Baseball. All these other schools because train ability the ability to be adaptive and be successful is going to be critical as the initial skills you will into. Michael Shrug his. Mit Media Lab professor said to us in the buck. And on the podcast the end of the day of averages over you'll going to be hopefully great versions of yourselves in different situations and I think this is one of the huge social struggles. We have we try and fit square pegs around halls. When what we need to do is change shape peg on ongoing basis because a square hole could matin our round Hogan mattress six months. And you know no BLUNK MATTIS. If I look. For example Zara Classic is on the retail business retail assistants used to just stack shows and Repo clothing. All wants it but a tablet in the hand they actually became living research specialist. If you touch something you didn't like it. They GonNa ask you in a CAF away. Hey what didn't work. Few material color size is and they feed that straight back in as a living. Betas INTO THE SYSTEM. So the retailer Are Much like I. Care is radically different than say Nordstrom all sales or other. Us organizations yes used digital tails. But they didn't think about digitally consistent interaction so I if organizations higher and say right for every dollar I give somebody I need to invest ten fifteen cents on ongoing basic training but not gonNa make people adopt enough not just five ten years happening. I think potentially eighteen months is going to change. Yeah we've seen that and I an author not too long ago who works with C. Suite executives and this conversation Talked about how the ever changing landscape of the workplace and you just alluded to it where changes in the past would take several years to roll out but now we're seeing them in eighteen months or less agile organization. Gin are going to be the ones that are going to be able to withstand things and because they're constantly investing in new research new training. How do we make this better? How do we make the experience you know for retail for example? How do we make the experience better for the consumer? They're already out there online ordering from Amazon or whomever and having the convenience of having a delivered if we want them to come into our store how do we make that experience worthwhile and if they do order something online and they WanNa pick it up in our store because they don't WanNa wait for shipping or they're afraid it's going to be stolen from their front porch or something like that have it really easy for the consumer to go into the store and get it without going into a long line and waiting for it? 'cause that's the whole key is to make sure it's not frustrating for the employees the consumer or anybody else but there is another dynamic as let's take Walmart which is the fastest growing by volume and speed of people. Picking up stuff in the stole. So mothers really busy on a Friday night has enough time during the day to order but does WanNa be around the store with screaming kids in a Friday so she pre-ordered and it turns up boxes bags for you to pick up on the back of a Walmart. So that's very productive. Very helpful changes the nature of an interaction. But it also means much as you and I noticed that drift purchasing that cousin retail high came with a budget of eighty five dollars. But I'M GONNA leave with three hundred disappears so they've then got to think about. How do I entice them? Back into the store. Down the basic transaction. But what I need to do to change shelf space in experience when they come head start just a shopping exercise. It's an experiential attraction lethal. Beaumont is trying to understand this but this is again. This is the a issued is very best yes he can replace basic functionality but the complex to the business decisions on the interactive nature. How Torture people is going to become exponentially more powerful. I think it's interesting to watch Walmart. Because they're known for their supply chain and how they're able to move so many goods cross continents and obviously North America. It's it's amazing what they can do and they have been one has constantly refined that supply chain and how things get shipped and Amazon's doing a job to with their prime and everything else and basically ordered some things from Amazon this morning. It'll be at my condo tonight now yes I could have gone to the store but it's a convenient thing and I live in a condo so goes to security so I don't have to worry about front porch or anything I just go down there and sign it out and bring it back upstairs. I didn't have to physically leave. My place are standing in line or deal with anything else and at the timing of this recording as we sure you're well aware of as well we've got this corona virus situation going on which is still in its early days and we don't really know how how things are going to shape out. We hope it doesn't get bad the point where we're all quarantine her house and afraid to go outside and have to walk around in a bubble. I don't anticipate it getting to that state. But this is one of those things where ai potentially able to catch these things much earlier on. So we can mitigate things like this from spreading and that's just one example. You know we keep picking on healthcare. But that's that's one area where okay we we catch this early enough. Okay wh- where's IT originating? Who's got it all of these things. And it's it's amazing to see organizations. Do some different things and especially once. They're working really well. Because again Walmart's supply chain has been great. They're constantly tweaking. They're like how can how can we make this better at issue radiates collapsed? We talk about this in the boat. These twenty-one factors people can self mecha- but it's just collapsed between supply and demand time chains that I think is critical. So yes it's not so much. Supply into wool mock. It's much more by. I think the supply chain connect with demand for the Kashima and this is equally the case in business to business rights. If you're a huge shipping company like mosque biggest in the world that moved ships around. You're going to say. Hey what do I do? This on the time of the picture on the Education A- may be accurate resell products in these carrying containers at a better rate. When I get near the destination then maybe I took him on earlier. Arm is in everything starts to become infinitely more fluid which is why that debilitate isn't itself? One of the key metrics of how successful an organization could be with a I finish them up with IBM recently and it. Clearly you make. An Algorithm can be produced the result but said organizations keep a close to them physically at technically collaboratively are just infinitely more successful avoiding failure. The organizations that just let it hang on the cloud and debt connected. Is this sort of ecosystem so I think we always talked about supply and demand chains and supplant him on time delay. We've noted there's no time delay between supply and demand demont dry supplies black and drive demand and it's running things almost like a fluid stock it away is the future not pretty scary for people when they were like yeah. Let's have an inventory with twenty turns when increasingly you're going to need to have forty fifty sixty one hundred tons in the effort to what I'm seeing evenly airline industry with amusing as far as pricing their flights. And it's you can look and even you know you can obviously picks it up on the cookies on your browser and all that kind of stuff is one thing they do too. But I found just did a recent test on this right checked a flight in the morning and I checked the flight at night made sure that my there was no cookies. Cash private browser all the good stuff even different computer even use two different. Ip address all of these things and the price was different. Okay what's changed and available seats didn't vary by much but again it for them. They're so fluid with their pricing that they can maximize go. Wow we're seeing a bit of demand on this flight for some reason okay. Well let's let's capitalize on that and add an extra thirty dollars or whenever to it. And from an organization standpoint they get that float you start making additional revenue just by having something shifting space on the instantaneous supply and demand meeting up with each other completely changes the game when it comes to inventory tracking up. I love the analogy. You gave where there's a ship of products and all of a sudden it makes more sense for us to take box for twenty two in move that over to this location and that one and have another box. It has similar things ship the other way because we can make a better profit margin on that box boxes. Still GonNa arrive where it's supposed to at the time is supposed to be there. But you've shifted things around. It's it's absolutely amazing. You know our brains can't quite comprehend. What the limits are this if there are. There are no limits because you could argue. You know what used to be disclosed as just in time now becomes a full-time in other words. It tells you what to do and it's there so there is this interesting massage point between my supply and demand meet each other an instant time. My one starts to slightly predicted the dynamic of another almost becomes like highly moving hydrogen actions around US space. And is this is the thing about adaptability. Look at a I mean. There's no doubt the what with the quantum systems are google have now built environments whether Complain Play Multiple Games woke loss levels with each other the way past human capability not just in. Chessel go but a whole range of other games. This apply that power ethically To the way you run your business because there's no definite stock markets in one thousand nine hundred transactions done by machines. Don't touch by humans that just have to set the rules in place so that machines don't collapsible system two thousand nineteen eighty seven in the UK but that becomes a different management discussion. And they often paralyzes people in that process. Marshawn as you'd be talked about before and Henry Ford Saddam but find a way of making calls. Hit the super-efficient Do Holes what. Now I can get these things out. Two hundred comes off so the normal and actually with incredible reliability it could revolutionize the industry. So imagine you're in the spokesman entertainment business and you'll come into a stadium and I recognize your face. It's able to diagnose what sort of mood urine and the guest posted that. Get you in on the cellphones is. Hey John Glaxy where Falcons Clothing Today Wilson actually wearing clothing from three or four years ago. Huge new says actually available on the stole. That's twenty five feet away from you and actually be like credit card. Details are just knock it on delivered whether the bag halfway through the game. If schools a touchdown we are not far from that. Well we are really made me choose three as away from. Yeah I was just thinking about that too. You know you walk in. They recognize you in. They say okay. Mic usually orders. This food this beer this and all of a sudden all I do I go sit down and all of a sudden the someone is bringing it to me and the handed to me and like you know. Well it's concierge service. They you know everybody loves GOING INTO AN ESTABLISHMENT. Whether it's a restaurant bar anything like that and you walk in the TV show cheers where everybody knows your name. Will you people like that experience and with ai? It's making that experience available to you to the stadium and you rub your Tummy deliberately or you use your hand to chart on many. Stick his thumb up right. You basically make an order that point it. We are so close to this. Nothing what people to fully recognize is this. The human interaction with stuff is going to be complicated. The technology takes care of itself but putting people in a room Hundred examples of Watson. Is this native? Happening in industry is the only way to initiate a rational conversation. Otherwise have these crazies. That run around saying now is crazy. Run around so yes they just become a conflict isn't designed to bring the Organization for further. So if I look at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium In. London is basically the newest English. Epl Soccer Stadium. They meant one point. Eight million pounds of profit on high end food every game profit tune-up involve because they've already started us to recognize patterns of Behavior Inside. They sort of luxury boxes Enough of what when the best time is to ask. Hey what more do what lest you on different so that humans are much educated format to make decisions like a navy seal in combat and second day using it to effectively deliver the food design the foods but managed to supply chain so they know exactly? How many bogus they're going to sell with an arranged. They never run out. Pre might be bugged us right and wastage in the food industry the biggest perfect Keller. They're wasted ratios alight one percent. Mrs May Be Fifteen twenty so their application of ai in real life situation has worked extraordinarily. Whether it's just how do we get people start recognizing these combinations to be successful? Not so amazing. What team plays at that stadium again? Told them hospice? Okay so I'm guessing Beer sales probably increase if livable comes in and starts winning you know I know. But what's interesting is you can find out the thing about it. You can test and measure hypothesis with a muddle things out extraordinarily Fox without having to sort of massively supplement human knowledge. Because you're creating all these moments anyway so you may see for example. The best time to sell beer at this level is between three twenty and three forty five. If taught him doesn't have a go. Yes ca that is the power of this knowledge. You have to apply it but it does become very interesting. When someone's lying up to three hundred dollars for a ticket in your will margin comes on the extra seventy five one hundred and fifty dollars food be able to do it in an extremely elegant highly personalized Absolutely amazing and I am completely excited about what is going to unfold over the next say five years. You know we used to say what's going to look world. Look like in the next ten years. You're in the next five years. It's going to be absolutely mind boggling. And it's GonNa be absolutely amazing if you know. I'm one of those ones that is completely open to it because I know it improves the experience of of living and opportunities and it just and I I. I'm I'm a junkie when it comes to innovation and people doing things differently we always think about our smartphones. And the fact that you and I haven't a conversation over the Internet and I remember. Aol Dialup and but even before that and getting up to turn the station on the television. And now I can pretty much watch anything I'd ever WANNA watch on my phone or a tablet and I've seen this in my lifetime small portion of a lifetime which makes it even more audible because we sit at this conjecture between you know the way we used to define ourselves the stories that defend ourselves. The frameworks have radically changed in the last ten or fifteen years in a generation. The millennials of a large portion of global workforce. Starting this January older. The known is a period of constant technological. Change there's no reason why they're gonNA slow down so the argument probably is is a station. Stop taking charge. It's going to be. Fostering foster. So buckle up everybody it's GonNa be a fun ride. Michael I've loved our conversation today Working People find out more about you in the summer. Doing Yeah. We'll find a family tin. I did this pub costs for folds futures in focus as they do. It looks the the world of twenty thirty and I always actually interested because there is a clear pathway to the next ten years. Move at the same. Catch me at all digital can email navy want from that I think is this is a great compensation for people to have in every office everyday. Some glad you're actually stimulating And I appreciate you and thank you for coming on the show to talk about this because again I think our world is going to be absolutely amazing and a very short period of time and there's no limits and we should do everything possible not to limit What it could do and I look forward to to washing and in enjoying you know this this journey that we're all on so again Michael. Thank you so much for being on the show on my pleasure. Thank you and everybody just have a great day. Hey It's Michael again. Thank you for listening to the PODCAST. I really appreciate it. Surely many people you're dealing with some significant stress and possibly approaching burnout. 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Beware of False Prophets
"Signal this is saying and I've got some thoughts that I want to share with the April twenty twenty and I am transmitting this message. Cu Frame Brooklyn New York Epi Center Ground Zero the Cobra virus to United States. His words too so interesting to me. Ground Zero for example reminded me of the terrorists that we lived through for nine eleven but this is a different kind of terror decisions attire that is multifaceted and it is sure that multi dimensional and it is a terror that is both seen an unseen. It is a spiritual war as well and joined these times as you can imagine. False prophets appear to us as they appear in Ole Times today as I was reflecting about what I wanted to talk to you about. False prophets was just flashing in my mind like a signpost matthew. Seven fifteen says. Beware of false prophets. Who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly Arabian wolves. John For one says beloved do not believe every spirit but test the spirits to see whether they are from God for many false prophets have gone out into the World Peter to one says befalls prophets also arose among the people just us. There were false teachers among you. Cool secretly bring in destructive heresies even denying who bought them bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And I have so many things that I am thinking about as even read these words about false prophets because I have to admit that even within my own communities that I am part of. I have seen people who are touched by the good word and they're touched by the good word in such little delicious delightful ways that they don't realize that the way they are sharing their understanding of the good word is oppressing others because not everybody will see that way. Like it's one thing to share your wisdom and it's another thing to include within your wisdom and in your big dream what you think everybody wants for themselves and humanity one big debate. Here for me is This conversation about our vaccines healthy. Says I've been doing this. Show got to see to break with Ruthie. My sister. We've also not only through our research but through our own guests have learned so much and have been exposed to many insights. We've looked at studies and the numbers. Don't lie so I'm not going to be presenting today to you. Statistics I'm going to encourage you to do your own research. There's a lot of people speaking very very pretty words. Delightful ways and may be. They're wearing the costumes to match. I see and I have seen these very people in my own communities. The people who are maybe study a weekend courses. And all of a sudden they're dressing depart. They're calling themselves a guru or Chaman and just only beginning to scratch the surface of their own spiritual understanding and awareness and from the false sense of self and ego and understanding. And feeling like you're more special than everyone else that place of honey I went through. This too is very seductive. Because you feel so good. You're coming into this understanding about beauty about love the world all the world just needs. Us love all the world just needs healing and when I find it fascinating that some of these people that speak good words that may be looked apart. Notice what they're saying and notice what they're not saying are people talking about. Let's explore holistic natural cures or. Aren't they just wanting everyone to give it? That wouldn't be something I would desire. Not especially when I'm looking at the numbers and seeing just statistics don't lie there have been billions of dollars issued to people who have been harmed by vaccines issue to their families. Who have been harmed by vaccinations. So if vaccinations were so safe there wouldn't be billions of people. There are still so many cases that we know nothing about. How can I be this good obedient person? Someone who loves God so much and in my heart of heart desire for everybody to give acceded. That's an example here of what we read what I read to you though. Be False teachers among you. Who will secretly bring in destructive heresies and to me this plan for let everyone gets tested. Let everyone have vaccines to me. Does the destructive heresy. Because you with your good intention mind might not realize that you are propagating promoting that everyone get vaccinated like where animals like. We have no say so like people. Don't get sick or permanently damaged or even die from Baxter nations. Vaccinations on not what they used to be. And so this is a time my friends. My family my social circle people that I love and treasure so much that the warriors among us are being called to rise to the surface and my understanding of a warrior is not your typical social justice warriors. Screaming at the top of their lungs does not being warrior. That's being just loud and aggressive a warrior weights warriors com into storm warriors. Come in the middle of this chaos yet. Ola have witnessed from many people. Since this case started is people just going out there with little information. Hearsay information and sharing its facts. Misleading mass is or confusing or scaring them and words have power every single time we oughta words were saying a prayer and that makes it difficult for you know to be in a position platform where you realize that. Do weakening journey is not just talking about this spiritual component of ourselves in this multi dimensionality aspect of the way. We live but the other slices of life the other slices of life that once you peel and unpeeled just their overwhelming. And believe you me. This doesn't happen one day to the next. You don't just awaken to everything an all of these understandings in months or years. It takes so much time into you. Know why because nobody knows everything in the world and there are some truths that are just so difficult to digest that they need lots of time. Lots of time to integrate to sit with two gold down and challenge your own truths about the world about the people about the false prophets that have been among us since our entire existence and reincarnations these themes these tyrants these false prophets have been among us. The Story of Jesus tells you that this was a simple man. He probably was working barefoot. Who knows don't be fooled guys this time where everything is being enhanced. An order for us to make better decisions with clarity. It's about integrating everything about integrating logic wisdom with the heart understanding when to say something and understanding when to be in silence and some of the strongest most powerful teachers in our lives are just emotes humble regular common folk quote unquote do not walking around flashy or they're not pretending to be just this super positive ball. They're walking with their warrior ship with their truth and with their love missing words and they're not trying to lead you for place of ego the not trying to give you all of the words they just give you little pieces so that you can figure it out for yourself so this is might thought for this day and a half so much to share. I WANNA leave you with timite for three for the time is coming. Will people will not endure sound teaching but having itching ears? They will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions. You must be careful. We must be careful the message. The wisdom that you seek is already inside. You hope that you're safe and family and your loved ones are in good health. Walk with faith. Walk with beauty. Talk to you soon guys. This is Rav break.
Covid cases are on the rise in King County - and restrictions that have been relaxed could return if that trend continues
"A couple of weeks ago. Washington state moved into phase. Three of the governor's covid nineteen reopening plan allowing more people to gather together and businesses and restaurants to welcome more customers but cova cases and hospitalizations continue to rise in king county even as more people get vaccinated. It means the county could fall back to phase two. Kyw's kate. walters spoke with angela king to tell us more. So are we going to have to fall back to face to. I mean i guess the answer at this point is maybe the way. This works is the state. Has these key metrics that they look at which case rates and hospitalization rates and if a counties right goes above a certain threshold it triggers this return to phase two restrictions. So where does king county stand right now. So according to public health both cases and hospitalizations have been going up in king county. And let's just look at cases as an example of this the state looks at how many cases there are one hundred thousand residents over a two week period and we wanna that number below two hundred to be able to remain in phase three. Here's what public health said. Dr jeff do chin had to say last week about what's happening with that metric we've not yet reached that incidents threshold. That's the trigger for returning to face to the trajectory. Looks like we will reach it if things don't change in the next week or two but with this virus nothing's one hundred percent. Alcoholics rate has inched closer to that threshold This week and the state's going to reevaluate counties on april twelfth to save any of them need to revert back to face restrictions restriction. So i will just have to wait and see what happens with that. All right so both cases and hospitalizations are going up. How big is the surge likely to be. We're coming off of a holiday weekend. Yeah and all of our other waves have been preceded by holidays as well which is something. dr do. Chen noted last week but he says i don't really know how big this is going to be. How long it's gonna lost. Or how much damage will cause. They're not expecting it to slow right now. Though we need to be prepared for further increases in cases and hospitalizations over the coming weeks as the of recent travel increasing activities and the impact of more infectious variant strains continue to promote the spread of covid nineteen so do chen says there over six hundred cases of those infectious variant strains in the county And he says the impact of covy is gonna decrease as more people are getting vaccinated but right now the virus is spreading foster than. We're vaccinating people. So he's asking folks to hold out a little longer and cape taking precautions. The kinds of things. You've been doing for the posture wear masks. Limit your activities with folks outside your household who on vaccinated and avoid getting together indoors in big crowds so as the cases continue to increase. Who's getting sick now. We're in cases trending up in all age groups except people seventy five and older. The biggest increases in recent weeks have been in young adult so people aged eighteen to twenty four. And we're also saying these changes in the ways people are being exposed to covid nineteen. How so well. let's see early. In the pandemic. We saw a lot of exposure in long term care facilities. They were really the epi center for new infections. And now we're seeing huge drops in the number of cases coming from those settings less than one percent of cases in the county were linked to long term care facilities in march. Okay so some good news there. Where are we seeing the cases pop up now so a little better as people feeling more optimistic with the vaccine rollout. What we're seeing is cases associated with socializing so in recent weeks. Nearly thirty percent of new cases will linked to dina's potties weddings gatherings things like that. And that's up ten percent from january we're also seeing an increasing cases and outbreaks associated with travel with schools and with youth. Sports leagues things like that. It's also worth noting that geographically we are still saying higher case rates hospitalizations and deaths in south and southeast king county. Now when you say outbreaks are we talking about large numbers or is a small groups of people just some perspective on that yet. That's a really good question. I don't know what the exact threshold is to be qualified as an outbreak. But we're talking about multiple cases associated with sort of a single event or activities. for instance. there were eight what they're calling outbreaks associated with youth sports leagues in as many weeks and what they found was these sports leagues. Had these really good rules to protect people during games but when it came to traveling to and from the games having dinners socializing before and after the games that's when people were kind of leading god's down in you're seeing multiple cases popping up around those events. Okay yeah that makes sense. So is there any good news. Yes so more and more people getting vaccinated every day in king county. As of last week there was seven hundred thousand residents in the county who had been given at least one dose so that's great and also despite the rising cases and hospitalizations. We are still below the pace that we saw during that full and uinta wave and most importantly as well deaths going down all right well k. You ws kate. Walters thank you very much for that. Update you're welcome.
Happiness In This Life, Joy! | Ajahn Brahmavamso
"Can you hear okay at the back. You can hear the back end up. Okay very good so it's very nice to be in jail for the first time i had my arm twisted times to come here and because my arm is getting very sore i decided not should come nice to be at this evening to take to give a talk on happiness in this life on the next as a young man before i was a buddhist. I realized that there's only two questions you need to watch night. Two questions. a person needs to really concern themselves about and that is question number one. What is happiness number two how to achieve it very often that i find that people live in the world maybe for many many years and even though they may have lots and lots of wisdom about many things they often is what is happening and happiness is having a nice glass of water in your. Thank you very much. But it's more than just having a glass of water when your thirsty as i will try and demonstrates in this talk indeed the question of happiness and this life in the next life is so central to what religion should be teaching especially buddhism. Recently i was in a conference in cambodia with the chief priest weapon dominant under and i was mentioning having my presentation that in order to bring more closely to the ordinary people of our world in to put it in a way which keeps is ancient message but which put sits in a way which is more relevant to people we can actually rearrange the formats whereas keeping the essence so quite often now when i talk to people about the basic put is teaching the four noble truths over the four. Noble truths are. What's the first noble truth. Not not not john. Robb's teaching four noble truths. Because if you start by teaching suffering as first then a lot of people don't wanna hear anymore visit enough suffering in their life so they wanna hear about more suffering so instead of starting with suffering in the fall novel trees. Actually i suppose because chefs many of you have actually read books about buddhism from western commentators even very recently. There was a book written by pope. John paul the second which again misunderstood buddhism is always talking about suffering suffering suffering and even as a young buddhist growing up in england. Even they're i read books about buddhism suffering suffering suffering. I was very relieved to make my first buddhist monk. See they were happy. Actually the i put my car. So when i saw them smiling. I thought he can't understand buddhism. That's what i thought. I was stupid so if we can repackage teachers we should understand that the first noble truths we should actually present in the world in a way which will draw people in is actually packaging the phone which was as follows first novel trays happiness. Second noble truths the cost of happiness. Are you interested third. Noble truth that sometimes there's no happiness which is true. Isn't it on the four noble truths. Why sometimes there's no happiness. Now those of you who are smarter to know your will realize the. I just explain to four noble truths but just rearrange them. That's all because usually we have the third. Noble truth is the end of suffering the end the suffering happiness so i just put the third truths first. Happiness wants to cause of happiness was the cause of the ending of suffering the whole pas. That's a cause for the ending of suffering in other words for the arising of happiness the buddhist said the navan enlargement is the highest happiness. You want to make an ordinary happiness. You wanna get big happiness or do you want to get extreme happiness Put a set. That new panel is the extreme of happiness. So in this life. Why don't you go for bloke. So that's the second novel truth in the rain but it the cause of happiness is noble eightfold path and it sometimes in life. There isn't happiness. Have you been miserable today. Maybe maybe you're five precepts doesn't like come on sometimes there's always something's alive which causes misery pain disappointment frustration anger here will gill great. Now the seventy words per suffering in life we know all those words but also a lot of words for happiness as well. maybe. I'll mention some of happiness also so it's not see Filling up again sometime this too many people. There's always been on stage every so when we have the second novel truth of course of happiness is the ifo path third noble truth. The sometimes is not happening. Michael co suffering past one of the most interesting of the noble eightfold the four noble truths why we suffer why this unhappiness in life. You know what the put a said is why this unhappiness while the suffering craving so that's rearranging the four noble truths and away which appeals to people first of all because it puts happiness lodge at the very front. It was a great relief for me when i was Became a monk in fact first of all. I'll tell you why became a in thailand. Because well i grew up as a as a young buddhist in london. In the late sixties early seventies. There were monks of all the different traditions. There was dead monks though a time months. Tibetan monks chinese martin's. There were burmese months months. And there's almost like a marketplace supermarket of monks to the different sent. I went to epi center. Near the reason why i wanted to become a monk. I wanted to become a monk in thailand and this is actually true because i thought my experience the months smile the most the tabet monks with behind were close. Second but the time. I actually one spy ahead and i saw a young man trying to get an interest in putting them if this religion was worth anything if these monks were practising parkway an ending suffering they show. They should be happy. So i was looking for happy monks because for me. Happiness was aside. Those months had understood. Put isn had feta my suffering that they were smarting. Come on quick. So fortunately i found monsoonal smarting smarty. Because i thought i mentioned this. This'll talking cambodia. Look all the month so sitting in front of me. This is for you. The people won't go to your temples if you're not happy if you're scouting them now if you shout the when you smile. Don't you like to be outsmarting people. This is not just modern buddhism but in the damage eighty ceuta in a match kaya. This is actually quoting the time of the put. There was a famous buddha support. A co king sanity. The king of coast salah who would often go to visit the lord buddha in his monastery in a wanna sometime before the j two growth sometimes on pilgrimage to win you can go to that place on his very last visit to see the buddha energetic grove king sanity walked through the monastery whether it's hundreds of months and they asked. Where is the buddha staying. An about said he's staying in his heart. If you approach quietly and you knock on the door will you in which he did king after all. And when the king went into the buddha's hot the first thing he said was the in all his life he loved coming to the two grove monastery not justice. see the buddha. Because in that monastery all the monks were always smiling and happy and being a came with all the business in stress of being a king. If you think it's a stressful now living in jehovah and singapore martin what is to be a king and those days my goodness that was stress. Because you didn't get sacked you got killed you go overthrown so he always loved going to that jay to grab because he always saw the mountain smiling and happy and from that day to this day. People love to see smarting people happy people because if you see someone smile then you smile too. Don't you guys see words again. Things happiness and he also said and this is the most important part of this view monks and novices. You said the reason why these mouses smiling must be because they have good meditation. I understand that and they would've said yes. That's how it is for. People have good meditation and understand the dominant. They smile a lot because they have little suckering in their lines. And that's a good way to know that this is a way of happiness the way would is. It's not a way of misery is not a way of of Extra suffering and this is what. I'm going to be talking about this evening. This is the way to happiness in this life and beyond the way of happiness which the buddha taught is the way of the focus and it goes to the gates now the way of craving that eightfold path. You should eightfold which put a choice. Basically being virtuous meditating becoming wise now these days especially young people not to be virtuous. Because you know why they're taking the being for no fun. That's why some years ago. I was giving him a treats in australia. And the retreat. Meditation place we would use but usually like tissues or party used catholic retreat centers which we use to us and so i was holding a better tation. Retreat at a actually was a catholic convent. Had lots of nice meditation using it for the often. I felt sorry for the weekend infiltrating but during the during the interview time. I haven't to look out the window. And i saw to australia men. They just be to church on a sunday morning and they were just saying goodbye to each other. One of them said to the be good on the other one said no. That's no fun. And i think that's that's an impression with people have in the world the keeping precepts being good being trustworthy being moral. It's no fun. The buddha said actually the opposite sometimes if we want to create a better world world of more trust world of honesty a world of When we can Be be not afraid with other people that we need more sure and actually makes everybody more happy. Do you want to live a happier world. You wanna create more happiness and be a good person. We have all of these precepts of fanaticism and many different religions. Now once i was giving a talk to a primary school about ten year olds. And i had to teach them buddhism and so i told them. Basic food is first of all precepts. I talked to them about the buddha's advice to his son robert koehler which was rob. Who doesn't do anything. Which would hurt another person or which would hurt yourself. Isn't that common stage. Other people hurt ourselves so having said that to these ten children. I say okay. What hurts the people. What hurts yourself. Asking the question of these children. In about five minutes these children had discovered the five precepts because kidding animals they realize was bad hurt the animals and also the owner the animals. Sometimes people think that you can hurt animals and animals don't have feelings my goodness they have feelings. I told the children about the story of the cow cried. This is a very sad story but a very beautiful store which happened. Very close to my monastery in perth. My monastery in perth is very close to a prison with the low security prison. In fact that prison hasn't go. Wolves abounded by monetary has actually happened. Sometimes people visiting for the first time they go to the prison taking the monastery and they say other monks in there anyway. This is a prison farm an open prison. The idea is that the australian government that when prisoners have done only a small crime where they don't have a long sentence if they've done a bad crime had a long sentence and maybe within about a year or six months of their release. That maybe they can go to like an open prison where security is not so harsh and also they can learn a job trade because many people commit crimes because of poverty or because they haven't got a puppet job but they can't find work so they decided to try and train people in farming because australia used to have many many farms. But i'm in australia. They don't grow right through they. They don't grow veggies and weeds. Bob's straight grow sheep and cows and pigs. It was a livestock firm and government. I must admit his very stupid because in this prison farm. They slaughter the animals on site. This a slaughterhouse there and you know who does the slaughtering business. What a great training for what they're gonna do whenever released so one day off before my meditation cross a big irish prisoners came to see me. He was very very tall very big with broad shoulders. Long having bushy bid and had scars on him straight away. I said so. You've come to the wrong places his meditation misjudgements. And i'm supposed to be here. I something happened in the last week. He said which he wanted to talk to someone about new. I was coming wants to talk to me about it. He said something can happen when to change his whole life but he wanted to explain things first of all. He gave me his bio his his background. He said he was born in northern ireland. In the city of belfast. Many of you would know. That's one of the most in cities in the world. at least it used to be. He said to make it quite clear to me that he was i stabbed. When he was only seven years of age he was in the school playground. He said when a bigger boy the bully came up to him and demanded money. He had for his lunch. He said no. The bigger boy took out a knife of big long shot. Night unthreatened the obvious boy. If you don't give me your money for lunch. I was stabbed you. The seven old thought not want stabs each other in the playground so he said no second time and the bigger aboard never asked the third time. But just plunge tonight into this yard seventy two out again and just walked away and this post seventy year old now in pain in-shop with blood streaming down his arm van outside the school playground to his father in the house. Close by his father was unemployed and said that that up been stabbed. His father took one look at the woods and took his son into the kitchen. But not address the wound. The father opened a kitchen floor. Took out a long kitchen. I gave it to his son and say go back and stop the boy back and he said that was the way he'd been brought up. He pulled up in a very violent city in violent family and he'd been in trouble since the time he was seven. He did in and out of prisons sometimes they via clients and he confessed to me. It even killed a person. He was a violent man. He ended up in this piston farm independent from the most sought after jobs of all in the slaughterhouse because violent people wanted to continue being violent to kidding these animals and he said and this was confirmed by the other business the most sought after job of all the job that pissed this hat to fight each other for the job of the slaughter and he said i have that slaughter. He was tough. He'd fought his way to the prize. Job in the hope is in the one who kills the cows and sheep and the peaks. he described. Slaughterhouse to me. He said in this big building funds are very strong. Stainless steel railings. Now why did the entrance and they narrowed down to a single channel to funnel the animals in until they can just pass through one by one he said those rows of superstrong because all the animals when they are they applauded with electric prods or by dogs because none of the animals to govern that they know what's going to happen to them. They can hear death they can smell it. They know that there are about to die so they have to have electric prods and dogs to force them through on those rows had to be super strong because when something like cows about to die they try to escape the us all of their force all of their while to try and run away. Those lyles that to stop he said where rows narrow down. There's a platform on which he stands with an electric gun. That gun has got such a high charge. But it's enough to kill the biggest of bulls but no animal would stay still long enough to improperly. He said all the time. The first shot from electric gun is to stem the animal so that he can aim properly the next time one shots too stunned to to kill and then the next animal one to start to to kill this particular day which changed his life. They needed beef steaks for the prisoners and the prison officers slaughtering cows. Many of these cows already been through. He's said would any animal whether it's a cow sheep goats or pick. When they came through to be slaughtered they would wind mode in the ways of the animals. Do they knew the regards to be dying. There was screaming the why animals do and they'll wakeling the rising looking for a way out because they know what lay infantilism but he said on this day wondering killing cow one cow cave in to that narrow channel below his platform in a way which he'd never seen before this call came in silently mobile. Please switch off your mobile. This calculated silently and number two. It came in what is would say is mindfully. Just one step after the other with its head down not trying to escape where it positioned itself voluntarily between these two weightings lifted up his head and look directly into the eyes of its execution. this irishman. The irishman told me. This was so unheard of doing this. For so many months he'd never seen any animal act like this before. In fact it was so strange. it's and was like looking right through him. Getting i contact not allowing him to move his eyes away. He said he couldn't bring himself to aim the gun and stunned that cow even kid. He said it didn't know how long that guy was looking right through him when he noticed something. Strange in the left eyeball of the cow. I don't know if you see big animals like cows for water buffaloes or bulls. They have very big is maybe about four or five times the size of a human eye. The huge he noticed in the left eye of the cow. Just about the lower eyelid. There was water accumulated and he watched it grow more and more until it was too much for the latest to hold and it started tripling over the eyelid down that cows sheep. He said at that point he was absolutely confused. He didn't know what to do. it didn't have. How much time was passing. But he couldn't do anything. He was frozen to say happen. In the light. I wat- accumulate about the island until it was too much for that lisa. Hold and another stream of silver liquid dribbling down the cows right. The cow was climb that this violent man so many years. You've been in and out of prison. Who killed even a human being built on cows down that gun war as prisoners or what to do those prison officers can do whatever they like to hear about that. Something cow is not dying when he came to me. He said i'm vegetarian now. That cao had changed violent. Mud into alleged terrier. It was the story of the cow that cried. Animals have feelings animals have emotions. Does you have cats. Dogs pets you once. I'm honestly in perth. On the way to the monastery. One of our workers notice a car had hit a small parrot and that power lay dead by the side of the road but he also noticed on a tree whose brought over overhang urban hanging of hunger vote. there was another parent who is standing on the prior to the tree looking down The dead parents now. You would know what you should uh. The birds like parrots. They live for many tens of years sometimes thirty forty fifty years and they made a lie when they choose a partner. They never get divorced. You know why because they caught find lawyers who are parents But nevertheless they made for life now one bird was on top of the tree looking down the other when this worker went home in the evening about eight hours later that bird on the bronze hadn't moved in exactly the same position looking down of the parent which lay dead when it came to the monitor the next morning the power was still there that next evening next morning next evening for three days the power on the tree had moved was standing there looking down. The someone who had died would obviously was his partner. Someone it'd loved the parrot was ingredients. There's no other explanation for it at all animals to have. I'm not sure if you've seen some of the documentaries about the animals who've been one of those animals was coco was a guerilla in us and york zoo whose trainers taught him sign language because guerrillas odd very good speakers but they're certainly good with their fingers and they taught this guerilla how to communicate using sign language which is usually for the death and this gorilla could carry on a conversation with you. How you doing today okay. Well thank you. How's the food in the suit. Not so good today. And they even found koko the gorilla speaking to itself but no one was around so i can tell it to the press one of the most interesting animals who i saw speaking was powered called six. Who lives in some louis. United states of america whose try who's was adopted as you very young powered by site kothe psychologists who was very skilled in teaching Children who have very very slowly learners who are sometimes mentally retarded teaching the speech using special techniques developed for no children difficulties speaking learning language and she used this technique on the parrot. Now you may all see parrots or mynah birds or in australia cockatoos imitating one or two words of human language because of the training of this powder this power had a whole vocabulary of words and it started to use them intelligently in the documentary i saw these people were holding a conversation with a parrot and the parrot was speaking. It was buki. If you close your eyes you think it was a conversation between two people. Were really convinced me was when someone asks his power another question and this parrot turned out and squirrelled away. I'm bought. I'm not playing anymore. The the power was was showing emotions. And your will. And that's the side of intelligence. It's a sign that whether it's a parent whether it's the dog whether it's a guerilla whether it's a cow these are beings. Who aren't that much different than us. What it was actually showing this. I've deviated a from our topic. But nevertheless what is showing. Is that why. We shouldn't kill animals because animals feel pain another fate as well if if you see an animal which which is hurting. Sometimes we say we're gonna put it out of its misery. We talked for animals out of its misery. Pull them out of our misery because we thought be constand. It is offering so these children actually. They learned the hurting another being. It's bad children. That wish adults would have the wisdom of children another hurting other big bad. That stealing is bad either not committing. Adultery is bad. Why do we actually go. Playing with other people's wives and husbands five minutes of happiness and days and days months amounts of pain is is. Is this a city things that they really think about it. Would you like your partner to cheat on here. Lying is bad. you've got to trust each other. No once one of my school friends best friends went to visit me in my. I'm honestly in thailand. And i told him that on modest rico and arms around in the early morning we go for a nice walk through the village. It's so beautiful time of the day. What did you come with us for. Walk to see how we do things yell at to but you guys get really early in the morning. I think i'll be able to get up early. So i'll call you just five minutes before you can get quick. You come with me. So i accepted that and i called in the voting morning world. He's said something which really moved me. He said you know what. I promised to call him early in the morning. He said when he went to sleep he knew i would call him. He knew the because of my honesty he could trust that. I'll be there in the morning to call him awake. These said in london where he lived. Many many people promised to do things for him but most of the time that didn't fulfill their promises he said. It was so wonderful living in a community where people never told lies. Isn't it strange and world because we trust each other. The sometimes that life is not happy. Wouldn't it be wonderful especially in your your family if husband and wife and children but at least keep that will that always tell the truth. There'd be so much happiness and a sense of ease where we could trust one another. That idea of trust is so so useful in our world because of mom's honesty when we were building our monastery in in western australia again. Can't i've told many people how i had to build at street hours. The main bill. To there i remember once going into the hardware dot shop to get some timber for they lose. No such a big order of timber when we were checking it out. We missed some of the timber. We didn't pay for it so the following day i went back because it was an honest mistake and said come terribly. Sorry but yesterday we took some tim. But you missed. You didn't charge us for it. And because of the countess had walked said look. We took some timber yesterday. I'm sorry but we didn't charge us for. Can we pay pay you for it. Never seen that before. There was so surprised that someone was being honest that we paid for it from that time on. They gave us ten percent discount. Whatever we go. We've made up for what we paid for that timber hundred times over which shows that actually honesty is good economic sense as well. Some the law reset sometimes people in the welfare that the hardest tecate drinking alcohol. Which is why. I tell the story of what happened in sydney a few years ago. This is a true story. A man had been drinking one evening and on the way home. He was stopping storytelling. As many times on the way home he was stopped in a. Please vote block checking to see whether people have been drinking and driving. I hear that do the same thing. But i was well and probably singapore because it's very dangerous drink and drive but this fellow was stopped in a police roadblock and there was no way out he realized it was gonna be in trouble because he was over the limit and he waited and waited until it was his turn to get out of the car and blow into the breathalyser too little too which which tests the alcohol level in. Your breath shows how much you've been drinking and it was about to breathe into the tube when there was the sound of two cars colliding because of the roadblocks someone who had been driving too fast and they hadn't seen the 'cause stopped in front of them and it was a rear end collision the sound of cars crashing together and so the policeman hurt that crash to and said sir is much more important idea with the crash. You go home. He thought he was so lucky. He got so close to if he breathed into that tube. You'll be able to for sure. He was staw lucky so he went back home. He wasn't lucky a toll because look what happened next Early in the morning he heard the sound of someone ringing his doorbell. Got out of the bed. It was had a hangover. He had a bad headache of drinking too much. When he opened the door he found too big. Sydney policemen waiting outside i. He was scared but then he thought i'm not driving now. They can't do anything to me. And all the placement said was sir. Would you mind if we look in your garage instead. I've got nothing in my garage. Shore so open. The door is when he opened the door garage. He almost had a heart attack because it wasn't his car in the garage. It was a police car. He beat so drunk. I had an extra cod piece of what he was a big problem. That's one of the days is so you can say why we keep the recess so that never happens to us on another notes. I'll be setting everybody in each of the city's been going to because there's a danger it presents in malaysia and in singapore. I know that many of you. Because i've been giving most of talks about well beyond man about no angels also ghosts and i know how chinese people very fate of ghosts usually they just. They're not really worth being face. This natural phenomena but there was one coast which is about today especially in malaysia. Singapore which is very very dangerous. How come here toward about this. This is the real ghost really. Does it takes over people's minds and it makes them say things they wouldn't normally site it makes them do strange things which only crazy people to. It actually possesses people. Have you ever seen a person possessed by a ghost. Maybe you have a really think. You probably have seen someone possessed by this goes. Sometimes you could even kill you. It's called the bottle ghost you heard about. The bottle goes lives in bottles of whiskey and beer and wine. When you take off the top against into you it makes you say things you would nobody saying to nobody to had. Sometimes they can kill you. Go the bottle goes so. Beware the bottle goes. That's what alcohol spirits isn't it. The bottle guys seeing husband do that sometimes get possess so want to say. That's the bottle coz the game take it. I was someone so the reason why we keep precepts axes to be happy. You know i've kept. My precepts is a month for twenty eight years. Now i enjoy keeping precepts. Sometimes people say y you know keeping all your piece fs as especially in these days. Shouldn't we actually adapt to modern timelines. Should we change things. Because it's not the same as india. Two thousand five hundred years ago but the michael district we keep those rules. You know why because it makes you happy strange. Isn't it as a month. I can't have sex watch to world cup. I can't see any television or radio or music. Except the way fares. That's okay it's seventy things icon. I want you have to eat everything you've got and sometimes in the same bowl sometimes actually get something you like. You have to put some of your top of it. Sometimes on your your spaghetti you get custard on your couch. You get ice cream. Oh but never mind so. You can't cut even eat what you want as a monk. So what do you do this. Why did you live is among this. you know. because you're happy. Strange thing that the monk kate that precepts the strictest in my experience the happiest wants the people who came five precepts strictly life happy people. Take it out yourself if you see a happy person ask. Why are you happy what we actually say there was something found. One of the great ways to happiness is being a good person because being good the five precepts the route to them the call of them. He's not doing anything. Which would harm yourself or harm. Another person isn't that common-sense that's why sometimes people come out to me and say i just can't keep the five piece apps too many. Say okay that way. Just keep precepts okay. I can do that to precepts. Don't do anything which harms yourself. They'll do anything which hurt another person. Wouldn't that be a wonderful way of giving if you heard another person's sometimes by saying wrong things to them. According somebody don't keep vice somebody now. Rude names why do we do that to people we wanna done we that's breaking your precepts that's breaking the basic to precepts so instead actually doing anything which is harsh spades wooten speech criticizing people. You don't get anywhere that way instead of criticizing if you will not actually to help somebody do what's called put them positive forgiveness anyway powerful patches. Sometimes you know we talk about compassionate forgiveness but just to give them. This by itself is not enough. You talked to give your husband again warning. Does he a lot of times. That happens because we haven't got a positive side to it. The post eliot children positive forgiveness means when somebody does something. Don't shout them or call them names hurting them. don't punish them but instead praise them encourage compliment them on every time they do something. Good in psychology. Recall that positive reinforcement. I've made in a wonderful article about a group who are treating some children who had a stomach disorder because they couldn't keep their food down whenever they would vomited out almost immediately and many of these children in hospital to have trips on the arm almost continuously because they couldn't eat solid food one of the groups which had great success like this ad hoc group of these children with their parents nurses and help us when any child kept the food out for more than a minute. Sixty seconds they time them. That have a party. They get out of the funny hats. And these little things you plow through which code the festival on the end. They put on the child's favorite music out some ice cream and cake. They throw a party and start dancing because the child kept their food down for more than a minute. You know what happened. That child being the center of celebration felt so good the next time they kept the food down for a minute and a half. They want to experience experience again next time. Two minutes three minutes. They cured disorder by rewiring nervous system through the desire. Praise bizarre the lot. Positive reinforcements if you want to change your husband or your walk if you want to change your children that's how you can do it through positive reinforcement you can actually create happiness and other people and also great happiness in yourself. That's one of the problems in our world. Even leaders always what the punish half events for tat because they're afraid of forgiveness if we forgive terrorist if we forgive a rapist if we forgive a murderer that just to the site mcginn said hatred by hatred by forgiveness but it has to be positive forgiveness encouraging. The good in another person praise gets you. Everywhere is mine water. I was told a story about an american man at his funeral. His wife got up to tell her experiences about the match. Live with for seventy years. She said like any human being. Sometimes he felt sick. Sometimes you felt sad sometimes. He was depressed but she said whenever he got depressed. You would always take out a piece of paper from his wallet which he got from the time he was in school and this was a story how he got this piece of paper one day in primary school there was an argument in the cross the children upset and angry at each other and all much look it was going to be a fight and the teaches stopped across immediately and gave them all a piece of paper and she told the children to draw a line down the center of the paper dividing the piece of paper in half and then she told her children to choose. What are the enemies. One of the children they did and to write something some reasons why they didn't like them to ride down on that left off the piece of paper and so all the children wrote down what they really didn't like about one of the enemies in the class and then when they were finished the teacher said about that purse of in the haven't called him like would you like about them and they had to do that. Every child had a piece of paper which another childhood written about what they did knock about them and what they did like about. The teacher connected all those pieces of paper and told them in half along the line or the negative comments were. The children didn't like about each other. She's screwed up and put it in the way spin and then the piece of paper which showed what other children did like about. The she gave out to. The children aged child had a piece of paper where another kid in the us who was enemy had written what they really likes cared about that person number one all the altercation that day finish there is every child realize even enemies like them and the wife said my husband at camp that piece of paper throughout his whole life whenever he was upset even sick depressed fed up because seven happened to work or at home. You get out of that piece of paper and read it. One of his old friends has he cared for him. Unlike the kept that throughout his whole life let's say for so much depression and mississippi after she finished her vacation about seven or eight people. In that funeral seventy stood up until pieces of paper from there. What at some persons they too had cat those magic pieces of paper because it has meant so much to them so they kept fifty sixty s. A little bit of praise goes a long long way his co. positive reinforcement in fact when i was building. I'm honestly when i was doing the plumbing work for. I want to say. I was a great plumber. How did we had up first. Plotting trump was modestly pollution. Block six toilets and showers for the months visitors and there was a big job. I got someone to throw out the plans for me. I had to put all the bits and pieces together by all the plumbing gifts. I went to the plumbing shop. Be province shop. When you know how i did it. I went to the counter. Put down the plant said help i wanna. The are the people behind the counter and his name was fed. I still remember his name. He came up to me and said this is a big job. It was worthwhile spending time for time with me. Because there's lots and lots of things for his Historic will buying. And he's showed me how to put together exactly all the tricks of the trade house a quick learner so he spent time with male. Learn how to do plumbing. And then i took all the stuff back to our monastery and we put it altogether needed to be checked by the health inspector. The council to make sure it was going to work in the health inspector came at past first time. I was so pleased the next day the bill. Okay so i got a check for treasurer. And i decided when i was going to send the check back to this this company that i should write a letter of. Thanks because actually fred that she helped a modest. We save money. They spent time with me. So i could learn how to do plumbing so i sent a letter back. You know. here's a check all this material we bought from you and also thank you to fed behind the counter. Who really helped me. So with this coming Put it in the center. I didn't realize it wasn't just one show. This was a branch of a big corporation in person. Had rogers and other states as well so when i send a letter it actually didn't go to bed behind the counter. It went through the accounts department. This clock who opened the letter read. It was so surprised because they have experienced any time. You get his complaints and this was a pit of praise so this accounts clock took it to the manager of the accounts department also read. It was so surprised that he took it to the managing director of the whole company. An image direct to read it and the managing director was taken taken aback. A letter from one of the clients so the managing director on the phone to this branch of the big company and asked to speak to thread instead fed. I'm the managing director. All just let's on there. I've i've done a thing wrong. Someone who's just written to say. Thank you for all of the great service. You've given customer service. that's what it's all about. Oh thank you so. This is the way ahead. Oh yes very good now how much we pay us. We can do benefit. Thank you very much. The keep it off. It had a conversation like that the md if the company bang up the little person behind the counter to price as it happened that afternoon. I went into that shop because apartheid got was too small to replace it ahead of me would to be australian plumbers with shoulders as wide as pickaxes. They were big. They were strong and they were ahead of me in the queue. Sudafed saw me come over here and he gave me service before these two when a to plumbers complained that said that they just got a message from managing director and they told me what happened so fred was very happy with me and he told me behind the counter where people are supposed to go and he said what do you want. Bob and i said this part of this too small on the big apart. Not trump tower. He changed it. I said what's the difference is much more expensive in the part. I'm giving in and fed said with a big smile bomb for you. There's not and so. He got his profit almost the three. It just shows you. The praise is good economic sense. And it makes you happy. How many times have you been price today. Having time for someone said something good to you today. How many times did i told you stupid in our line. We time praise each other enough. We tell each other often so much. Try positive forgiveness. It's not doing things which who are. The people actually encourages people especially your kids. Your children please. Please please encourage them. Don't always criticize them nervously. Examination time now isn't it in in But i or your children are old levels and ended exams. I used to be a schoolteacher schoolteacher. One year as often as office would happen. What are the children in my class came. Bottom of the class they came. Thirtieth across thirty was so upset and so depressed. I decided to be compassionate. What up to them and said you know what you've done is called a heroic sacrifice you've taken that position so no one else needs to take it your capote sattar you yourself is sacrificing your own happiness for the sake of this. Actually you deserve a medal for your iraq. Sacrifice of covid fossil copy talk is easy to come talk to that terrible position to face your parents now. The teachers all your doctor. When i said that's what. I was crazy but the kids stop feeding sad and started laughing. It made him feel better. So i was getting a bit of price in a difficult situation. You know next year it was somebody else's turned to be the vote. So if your kid comes bottom of that class someone has to come potter. It doesn't mean that stupid. They've they've become in. The classes always summoned. I can do. They can always become monks. So desperate will take anybody. So that's saying that his priorities instead of lime encouraging the same with you been a positive reinforcement so wonderful way to happiness so when you go home tonight go and find something you really really like about your husband or your wife and tell them say dotting. I really really like you for this. That and you try that and see the results in your home life. First of all you must be crazy but just say just to talk by from. But they're like it. I love it phrase because it encourages. That's the way about my monastery in perth. Sometimes amongst give them a job to do that make a real mess of it could do much better. But don't say anything do it right. I really price and then they try harder next time praises the way to encourage people too much blame society and that's why i feel so much stress not happiness in our line. This bad speeches. Bad thoughts goes against the pope. Paul now why did it leads to suffering so you can still get progressed in our well we can still strive for excellence. Not criticisms three price so as we practice in these sorts of way understanding like how to be happy in this lie. How many of your perfect. So why did you criticize other people. Not perfect now. Why are the great sense. Stories is about the japanese monk his garden many of you may have been to japan japanese months of famous for their beautiful gardens so why these monks had the best garden. Older japan people came from far and wide to see he's gotten. It was immaculate. It was inspiring. It was found one day meditation about winter. See this garden howdy arrive too early. So i'm going to watch this month and find out his secrets. Why his god is the most famous in the whole of japan so it's old monk he'd be honda bush and a short while later. The gardening mont came out with too big baboo baskets. The garden was it was a coal yard and in the middle of the courtyard was the big plum tree with spreading leaves he. He went out into that garden and one by one depict up all the leaves and twigs which fallen the night before but before putting mentioned basket he would look at them if he thought the lead was had a wonderful beautiful color and had correct shape. He put it in the good basket. Descend with any tweets as well an any leaves and twigs which were ugly deformed the wrong color he put in rubbish basket this way he carefully selected lee finally tweak fight tweak as you went to clean up the garden after spending two or three hours meticulously picking and choosing each believe it went through all the rubbish leaves and the compost poppy and his on street and then he had a cup of tea to prepare himself for the most important parts but beautify the garden after having a cup of tea and meditating awhile when his mind was composed still he went out into that gotten one by one. He plays the leaves and the tweaks in place around the garden. Sometimes you put a leaf down. Stand back and look. It wasn't quite right. Just a few degrees. Then it was right. He was a perfectionist but also he was an artist who had such a command of color and shape on the distribution around the chevy tree. The plumtree the when he'd finished after many hours that garden looked immaculate. It looked to work of and in the afternoon it opened the garden up visitors and people come from all over the country to admire this garden so meticulously arranged after he'd finished. The gardening came out so the meditation. Mike came out and spoke to the gardening market. Set up watching you and you know. I've come to praise you all your did and all your effort to know your care. Garden is almost perfect. Those words almost the gardening ma when winds all the college right from his face and he stood up voting rights with his lips quivering. Oh almost perfect. And he went down on the ground and bow to the master and said oh great master you being sent by the gods of compassion to teach me how to make my garden even more perfect. Please tell me oh great master. Show your compassionate wisdom. And i make my garden more perfect. I don't want it to be almost perfect and the meditation monk said you really want to know oh yes. Please don't withhold your great compassion a wise master so the all meditation mindset. Okay stan t and all show you how to make your garden absolutely perfect. Instead of the old strode to the middle of the and he put his old but strong arms around that plumtree and he showed the head out of it and leaves and tweets all over the place. God monster in and said oh. That's perfect you understand that story. Isn't it a lot of suffering. Tried to make perfection where we don't understand what perfection really we try. Make children perfect. We try and make our life perfect but isn't it the nature of the. Sometimes things go wrong. What do we do when things go. Sometimes we just focus on the wrong things we don't focus on the good things and therefore we stop that still lack of wisdom. Why no one of my favorite stories is this story of my wall. Maybe we've heard this before but wade you really understand only then will you walk not want to hear it again this off my wall in the early days of my modesty. We didn't have any money. We were bloat monks so we had to borrow money or the society did an older moms had to the labor hard. We had to work so hard to not only me. But i also had to learn how to lay bricks out to put on who you know. It said it buddhism the no plot is ever been shared in the progressive buddhism. That's wrong. I shed much blood when i was trying to. Nine lead things into the timber. I missed macho. My blood has been set on that. Honestly so it's not true. There's been no bloodshed in the inputs of put my shit. I didn't start off as a good filter bought. When i started learning how to lay bricks. It's not easy to lay bricks. Brick layer when you pull the way on a lump of mortar. You had to. It was never love you to tap the high end down to make it level but went one end was tapped down another. Ed moved up. So you tap that in down and then it would move out of line so you tap back into line and then the first call would move up again and it was so frustrating trying to get all those breaks in the right place but i had lots and lots of time. I was very patient. Because i was being paid and after a while i finished my first big wall i put. I made sure everything was perfect. So i thought but after i was finished i know back that wall and i found to bricks which were out of line. I'd missed two. Bricks knows bricks boiled the whole in fact. I was so upset of the wall because the two bricks along the way into my my my mouth the senior monk of that time austin can we get some dynamite and blow it up so i can start again. Can i get a bulldozer. And push it out of there because those two bad bricks boiled the whole wall and i was so upset of my workmanship. I'd made a mistake. I'd messed up and everybody could see it now. So anytime visits coming to them. Honestly i'd always take them somewhere else so they wouldn't see my hobo bit wall and it was for three months. I suffered three months. I was disappointed three months. I was embarrassed until one day someone came and saw that wall. I was with them. They said that's a beautiful wall. I said i'll you blind. Have you left your losses in the car. I said and i said i can say. Can you see those two bricks spoil the whole wall. And they said yes. I can see the too bad greeks. But i can also see them. Nine hundred ninety eight good fixes. Well that hit me like a brick because for the first time in three months i was looking at other the my two mistakes for three months i could not see any other breaks except the ones which were out of line. Soon as someone told me i could see something more strains every time i lost all my eyes with beat magnets to my mistakes and that's all i could see when someone told me i could see there was more that will i want. Someone told me there does not a ninety eight. Good bigs won't looks up at anymore. In fact he was still there. I did want to destroy that from that time. But i realize that was almost like a parable. Oakland isn't it the cases. Sometimes we make mistakes and we feel so upset so sad in fact some people even commit suicide because of two mistakes and they're like why did they commit suicide because those two mistakes all they can see and now flying to the nine hundred ninety eight good things which surround those mistakes. Sometimes you can get devolves your partner. Why too bad briggs. They've done and you forget all the good things i've done some years ago i was in. Ko and i was giving a talk at the university. They're not the university. Somebody asks me a question. That'd be managed about three or four years and the husband had just lied to them. They said i trust a man anymore. What should i do to him. And i asked the question. What are you studying here. He studied maths. I say right now. Listen to this if you've been married for years. How many days is that. Say like a thousand days in those days an aged day. How many things does your husband say to you. Let's say no thirty things. I stayed you. Thirty statements so that's thirty times thousand thirty thousand teams. Your husband says this is the first time he slide. So that means twenty nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine things he said is the truth now according to statistics that means the next time he says stopping to you. There's a thirty thousand to shots. He's telling the truth. Why do you say you don't trust him isn't that logic is not reasonable. The some delays wants out of thirty thousand times. Are we think we can't trust him. Anymore really loading says is the thirty thousand to one. Charge is telling the truth next time. I think that's pretty trustworthy for. Why is it that. Make a once who said we contrast because one bad greek in the world. That's all. We wanted to destroy the wool. So many relationships will keep homecoming seventy ships. Isn't it a shame we can be friends for life and offend disappoint says once we break the friendship. You've got no forgiveness. Why can't we forgive because we can't see the whole. That's why i wanted to destroy the wall because all i could say was mistakes. I didn't think it was worth saving. We don't think sometimes i married is worth saving. Friendship is worth saving utah. Sometimes thing we're not worth say because all the mistakes. That's not the way to be happy if you wanted to be happy. Be wise see the whole wall of life things go on what to expect the real garden the perfect garden. That markers shook the trees nature. How do you ever seen in a forest. All the trees growing in lines in upper plantation. I've seen too many of those. I mean an actor for us ed. John go a rainforest in the jungle rainforest trees go all over the place. That's why it's beautiful. They're not perfect trees in a real jungle. That's why it looks wonderful beautiful. That's why it's natural so nature people to make mistakes. What's wrong with making mistakes. Who hasn't made a mistake. I've made many mistakes in my modest be many years ago when i was a senior mark. They're was walking through the grounds of my monastery found in the glass a hammer which have been left out in the rain because it was going rusty. Now please remember the everything we get is. Donna is charity. And i thought that somebody it may have been a very very poor. Supportive of monitoring may have saved up for weeks to buy a hammer now. Everyone is rich sometimes people unemployed and they still want to help build a monastery so that should be given and given a hammer twelve monastery and some one of my monks had will foolishly carelessly without mind let are in the grass. I thought this wasn't on this with too much. I decided i'd have to really give those mexico so look after the gifts given to a monastery so that evening i called a meeting of the monks and sometimes i don't always give a talk with many jokes that evening into any jokes until i scolded those months and i told them all about the importance of of generosity and charity. Give charity to an organization in our monitor. We have to make sure whatever giving his used properly. We congo leaving hamlets to get rusty out in the in the in the monastery grounds. You took look how these things take care of these things to take these things because this is the faith of the laypeople. If you monster look after these things how would you expect most laypeople to give anything in the future. They lose faith in us. We're wasting. I went on that for about an hour and the end of my tool or the monks were sitting dead strike and they were almost wide. When i finished my talk. What was most disappointing of all. What really upset me was not one of my mom's confessed. I thought at least one of the will put up their hands and say i forgive bob. It was me. I was just too busy. I forgot and that was the most disappointing. No one would actually confess. I thought maybe i'd been to get amongst too much. But even that they should confess they should so when i went outside of the whole to go back to my heart feeling very very disappointed. Disillusion residing outside the whole vietnam. What no one had confessed already. That subbed even been. But who'd after hammer out the you got it right. it was. Oh it was embarrassing. i'd forgotten about. It is the scolded for an hour and sold them off. And i had go back into that on the together again and tell them that was terrible. We all make mistakes. Sometimes they did so me out the monastery that so your wife out the hope when she makes a mistake or your husband out children when they make a mistake have compassion encourage people to try and do better next time. Forgive the pulse encourage the goodness so why. It's a happiness. There's also the way to personal happiness as well striving for excellence even on the papa meditation if you strides dr spice drive and always so critical of yourself. I'm not good enough. I come to is too hard. I'm not. I'm not up to it. How can you expect to get protests that way. So that's why some people in the meditation retreats in the interviews when they say the all. I've been thinking this way. I've been thinking that way and i can't get my mind peaceful and quiet. I tell them there's no such thing as a bad meditation. Stretch the truth of the topic to try to keep on working. Keep on working. I tell them to check in the post. Maybe he hasn't come yet. But if you keep on striving. I encourage but i never criticize. I never tell people. And that way you get much more many more disciples and you get many more people wanting to stay with you. It's called compassion. Which is a way to happiness in this life and the next is called forgiveness which is a form of vetting. God is called encouragement which is striving with line effort. News are always which these happiness in this life and the next you feel bad when you said subject wall or terrible about other person once there was a man who said a terrible things was wife and so he went into the monk in the local monastery and said ma. Can you do some seventy for me. Can you do some pay a lot of money. So i can undo the harm. I've done to my wife by saying toga. And so they said okay. My okay man disciple devout. I can do it. Seventy paul you which will undo all of the harm you've done to your wife as long as you follow the requirements of the seventy completely. You said first of all. I wanted to go to the market and buy a chicken and bring it back to the temple but on the way back from the newmarket by chicken on the way that when the market that she can take all the feathers off so when it comes to the templates already plant so. This man didn't know what about to the way to the market anyway to do this. Put us seventy of undoing that carbon said to your wife and so he the chicken ceremony. The have you heard about this in buddhism before hatheway. She undo bad comedy to your wife the said subject to your husband or your boss oh to offend it actually is a settlement which can undo the bad common straight can be done so sorry ready to board this chicken for the bucket and other way before instructions the all the feathers out and gave it to the muck and the said okay you perform the first part of the ceremony you gotta come back in the morning to complete the second half of the survey so the my chicken in the fridge and then a man came first thing in the morning said now the second part of the seventy because that's worked worship my wife is still angry at me she's not token to me to the second part yet and so the second part is this at the box now. Here's a chicken back now. I want you to walk back to the mark on the same way you came. Find all those feathers stigma back in and that's the way it would work. You cannot do under the bad words come out your about. It said. i can't do that. I caught do that. Said it was teaching updates. Why so words come out of your mouth you cannot catch them. Put them back in again. So that's why you have to be very careful the way you talk to each other. Because once they leave your mouth they gone gone forever. So if you're going to speak some words always speak kind. Words tend towards praising was encouraging. Then not only. Are you encouraging happiness in your family. You also encouraging happy to see yourself making wonderful. Go come and you can actually build up very positive family and they positive company and a very positive monastery and a very positive community trace. Gates you everywhere. It's called positively and it's the way to make you happy. There's too much depression and stress in this world. Why is that because everyone is so critical of each other and they're so critical of themselves so bad that while ago came to see me in prior to thirteen years of age she had a deep psychological problem which no psychiatry's could get which he came to see me us young lady. What's your problem and say said. My nose is too big. Because i was a scientist before i did a quick measurement of knows just in my mind and i said matter your nose is average is not too big not too small mother. None of the most beautiful knows. I've ever seen on a young. It's not either it's an average common-or-garden knows but no matter what i say. She could not keep herself having a big. I couldn't deal with the problem. So often was so critical to each other. We'd even get depressed over having the big nose so please trays each other. Please praise your so when you go to bed at night. Who's last person you see before you go to sleep. you all. please say to yourself. Good night me. Haven't i sleep when you wake up in the morning. Who's the first person you see you again here. I am again having ice day. Well you actually doing to your praising yourself encouraging your so. You're spreading loving kindness to yourself compassionate action. We can always save economy be compassionate but these ways of doing it. They can always say be happy. But these are way of solving the suffering problems in our line by the seventies of the brick wall by pays. I know what your children to be perfect. No wanting yourself. Be perfect by encouraging. That's perfect so please encourage happiness us in the world but not anything which hurts another person animal and not doing anything which a harm yourself does say terrible things to yourself in the science of your heart always be kind but it's yourself and others and that's one of the wadden ways to happiness in this life and happiness in the next line of now soon be the next line so thank thank you very much for the talk students. Thank you very much. I'd you brown for that entertaining. Inspiring talk so now. It's the time for question and answers. The questions come from you. And the as is come from jim brown so please penned down your questions or you're most welcome to stand up as well to Just say a question. Now which ever you feel most comfortable with their tend to volunteers who are available to take the question of you. There is in fact a piece of paper had that has been now ahead and given an for this evening because i tightening to hold as a special offer on the first question gets double merit. This is called marketing and a special offer not to be repeated. Please creek actually. I do have a question ready. I observed five precepts and meditate deliver more meaningful life one of the precepts is do not steal which bothers me bit in today's society. Some companies like microsoft charge high prices for the software as we all know. That's why bill gates has become the richest man on earth. It bill gates was the buddhist. Would he be considered breaking his precepts. Secondly poor folks like us have to buy pirated software at a very much lower price again. Do we break the peace that even though we paid for the product albeit at a lower price lastly Acute the other question next first of all the bill gates is not the richest person in the world. I can't potter. The contentment is the highest wealth. So who's the richest people in the in the auditorium. Today mug yeah contentment. I want to write to forbes magazine and complained. I'm never in the world's richest two hundred so first of all bill gates is isn't rich so he may be sort of a lots of money doesn't make you rich breaking the precepts that sometimes we stay the everyone else does it therefore it's ok but then everyone else will so you join the so please just be like sheep and just because everyone else stuff. It is wonderful to take a moral stand on such things because you usually find the stitchery slow parking if you take a sort of a loose stand on things like you know. The windows is charging too much money there for still poverty videos of pirated software. The next thing you start to say is the government charges too much tax. Therefore i won't put it in all of my earnings on the tax the tax retur. Sometimes if there's a product and we really need to buy we should actually pay the money for. It doesn't matter it's up to them to decide. Was that prices we. It's hard choice to buy or not. There are other products available. Like nuke believe does that mean we can't bothers. Dvd's anymore the best movies that dvd's a check monks so you have to explain these things to me well. Malaysia is the biggest producer of pirated dvds of all of digital video disc Something like vcd. Okay if it's dvd's about com you can as many as you want especially the case but it is still taking. What's not give and five. Is pirated copy copies of pirated software. You just pay a bit of extra money and donation you know because you buddhist and you want to do the right thing you wanna do is because if people take a stand and always do the right thing and never actually cheat in business or cheat in life never cheat on their husband teat with their children. If we all follow that path then wouldn't well become a more on his place. What can we pay five ringgit for a dvd. And then give the ten minute extra to the monastery. It makes me this sorry. That wasn't your question with all right next question. I won't read that late. Mother theresa went to supermarket. Loaded up a charlie with good with foot stuff and proceeded to the checkpoint. Of course the cashier did not allow her to leave without pain. Fortunately the person behind the q. Volunteer to pay her reason for not paying. Was that the food for the very poor people in india. So did she break the precept. Sometimes you have all sorts of justifications for stealing. I remember i used to teach in prisons. What am i prisoners. So it came out to me said he never stills from people he ropes houses and you can see his have all sorts of justifications. Never stealing things. I'll taking things. Because i needed the native mike. Good very very careful when you get your presets because everyone usually find some reason for doing it. If you say something terrible to your wife you always think he deserved it or if you break your pre set of example like fishing we take timothy fish in the lakes. I need to to relieve the burden of all the fish in the waters. Always sunday's why we do these things so sometimes it's not really the justification coming from wisdom. It's always the justification coming from all defiled mind so he said that he never to steal no matter. What reason even that you to give to the poor because that's just encouraging sort of the poor to steal is otherwise the best thing to that i would have done intact to us the supermarket though many people. Can you please hell and someone like mother. Teresa the super bowl people would help and that gives things for her. You know that when. I went to the western countries. Some of the monks wandered. Yeah there's maybe some buddhist in england in america and australia but they don't know how to look after mark that know how to being done they didn't know how to know put food in the bo says there's sometimes we might stop. You might have any food and responsive at jianchao was on the eddie kind people in england. Australia and the united states showed his kind people. He said his kind people be people to look off the so we didn't need to steal. We didn't need to buy things. Always many many people would always after you and that's actually Trusting on compassion and kindness. So everybody needs something you don't need to steal now. My father was an very inspirational man. He was like an atheist. There wasn't a christian but he wants told me he said son. If you ever need something so badly you're thinking you're stating thursday. The asked me out by it for you. And he was a very poor man. I remember once a apartment that you call it. In england that that it had powder note which was on the mantle show about the fire and a mother started cry because the pound was so much money to the those days vaguely poor. We used to keep used other about locks on our door because we actually were hoping that burgers would come in and take pity on leaving something right next question. Is it wrong to kill to save. I have adult that the tight by maggots and okay for me to kill the maggots and saved my dog. Okay yeah it's sometimes get in those situations where is bitten to lighten the getting this auto situations where ricard Do the right thing. Because we've left it a bit too like office. He that we'd have some sort of so. Let's talk talk better now to make sure i didn't get into any checks every now and again to catch wound before it got infested with maggots wants fact magazine. Said you obviously have your choice. Tv could obviously take those maggots out. But sometimes you do have to kill them. Because i confess in my life that no twice mike. I deliberately killed living beings. What was because. I had words myself in those days. The only medicine was actually to kill the web's either them or me twice. In twenty eight years a have done the other time was when there was a clay of wasps are monastery and those loss to a very very violent and aggressive and they would sting you four five six three time and when i start you job. That really hurt. It's i go forward me start at the same time. That was being hit with a k. And one got bitten. Seven times had an allergic reaction stopped with came. That close to die became dangerous together with another mike sort of i started to take the comic consequences of my actions and not down there next from the the the hot tag many eggs would be eaten by ams and i did. I thought well it's one thing to i. Did it very mindfully with as much compassion. And i decided to take the comic consequences of that chanting further. Oh yeah so it's such situations when it's very very happens but you know there's situations i put my hand up. Its okay for this poor man to the to compassion on the mega first of all and please next time. The cop the dog and don't let it get to that situation again. Okay yes okay fair enough. But if it's something happens a lot sometimes sometimes it's will is an interesting question because it comes with a question you know. Should we all be budgetary because they say that if you eat meat you're involved in killing somewhere along the line. The answer to that question is even when you buy. You're involved in kidding as well if you've ever actually watched the farmer cloudy right. Feel you'll see that they dig up many vetoes worms and other animals. We stephen that soil many of them get killed many mutilated many who are brought up on top of the salt eaten by the birds. The birds coming in afterwards. So even anything rise involves kidding. About the beams. The points of live of compassion is not eliminate all kidding. Because that's impossible. We actually live the expensive many other teams but the point is we try and limited as much as we can so we don't do unnecessary kidding about the beans on especially realizing that are expensive. Many others we make sure we use this precious life of a human being and don't waste it because we know that many other beings actually sacrifice themselves routes to so don't waste this precious human line because it costs the lives that untold told to be so in the case. That thought that you have to do it. Sometimes the compassion and safe the some time in the future that next time ages you can give your dog band or something and try to babies a toll possible. sometimes it's not possible destruction of life as much as possible. Always the accident sometimes. Having unavoidable situation was compassionate people got used to tried to limit the destruction of life. That makes sense okay. Buddhism's very practical. What other basic differences of the teachings of theravada in china buddhism at the recent conference on buddhism in the aim was to come together to resolve some of the conflicting issues of various groups of buddhism. Traditions can you enlighten us on the conflicting issues please. Okay the conflicting issues and the uniting issues. I just thought was knocking issues. First of all because we spend too much time and sometimes the mahayana televised sometimes people to that question in the west and What they really mean when the ultimate question kagyu you get your act together so you can be in harmony together you teach how slay people to live in harmony together and your arguing yourself which one is best. It doesn't sound very good. Visit sometimes like hypocrites teaching everybody else that even hobby but we live in harmony amongst ourselves. So when you actually look at those traditions sometimes when you live isolated in your own tradition and you meet the author traditions. It's very easy to get wrong impressions of the though and you meet those traditions and see how the actually practicing whether they're actually doing not so much. Well they believe in why that actually doing a lot of problem grounded. And that's why tell many people in the west dentistry mahayana of Three great traditions of the current today. It's just like a cake. With three different types of icing. Some of those cakes. Got very big icing. You gotta dig as long way down to get to the cake. Some go very thin icing on the cake is just under the surface if you dig deep enough into each one of those traditions. You'll find another calming teaching. Because all traditions what keep precepts because the buddhist saints to happiness old petitions patches compassion him sometimes people criticized have about being selfish not going out to help other people might have somewhat into loss two weeks actions. Speak louder than words but we all have the same cake underneath. And sometimes i explain it like this. The theoretical part of all those petitions tabata mahayana in something called the six power meters. That's what a buddy staticy. Six one dollars six paramaters. I'm going to rearrange them against a lot of these things to you. Make them clearer. This can t which is Enjoys perseverance is energy. We're here this donna. Generosity on the lost three of the six power betas is see lack. That's two presets samadi meditation and tanya which the three of the six power meters with every mahayana weather. Yana has practice. The what is tara about. What is the poll pa the precepts so mahdi meditation and tanya. Always the we also practice. Canty and donna and we're which is perseverance and energy and generosity so we might think we've got different theories but we asked practice the same thing if you live in perth and you walk east eventually come to to sydney or melbourne businessman. It doesn't matter why you go east go east for the the The enlightenment of all other beings or east for the european lineman. When you w understand. Why lyman is you know w what you're doing but if you go eat eventually get to sydney same way to follow the poverty. See somebody on the buddhist said these ninety one thing enlightenment. Those mariana theravada hindia business or all roger yard and all this business. Actually i know full well. Good monks and good non. Good lehman and good live. Women doing is the science. That's why isn't it. The case i think to the methodologies have touted with a society isn't it but my goodness if it was a good mahayana coming here. Wouldn't you come into them. If there was a good mahayana. Non hotel vodka. Tibetan marco tabet. Wouldn't you come and listen to them. I hope you would cause these days in western country certainly and in malaysia and singapore face it. You're not really concerned about whereas they are from australia or malaysia. Tibet or burma. you're not really concerned about whether mahayana watch riyan he neon or some other. Yana all young eighty concerned about is whether they give a good talk on. Whether it's an entertaining but also interesting and useful. You can take back into your lives. Become better people so sometimes. It's a wonderful time with our life. All the traditions are coming together now. How all of you coming together. Not just in your attention but also in sort of other as well. One of my favorite stories is the story of the man in the violin. One suicide an old man living in the mountains who had hardly any education. He worked so hard to bring up his children and send them to school and then even to university to work so hard to do that and sacrifice so much when he's children did very well at university. When established themselves as doctors and noise and businessmen businesswomen. They invited deaf father from the village in the mountains to the city for the first time. So this superman source sites. He'd never seen before one day. He heard a terrible sound scraping scratching sound which hurt his ears. Which grated hard. It was the worst sounded ever heard in his life but nevertheless he was curious he wanted to know what made this terrible noise refunded source and in the back room. If a house. He saw a young boy trying to play a violin. He was a novice is just beginning to learn and that's why he made a terrible noise. Now this was a very simple man who'd never seen in before you had hardly any education. He thought it was the violence fault and he thought all violence sounded like that and he vowed he never wanted to hear such a terrible instrument ever again the next day and different part of town he had a beautiful sound. The sound was so sweet and melodious. He wants to find out what it was. And you've probably already jumped ahead because that sound was also violated but this time being paid by an old woman who'd be practicing old headline and was now a maestro of the violin. When he saw fighting could be played by an expert. He realized his mistake. It was not divided fault. It was just. The person had not yet learned how to play it. And he thought you know. That's the side with religion in the world sometimes. We comply religions whether it's islam or buddhism or christianity usually playing the religions we don't belong to and he said it's not a decent fault very often it's because people haven't learned how to play the religion well yet but the next day he heard a sound which was even more beautiful than the sound of the maestro pain the leave it was more beautiful than the sound of the river often thankful beautiful than the birds in the forest in the early morning. More beautiful than the sound of the wind to his village. And what do you think that sound was which was most beautiful sound in the world. That sound was the sound of an orchestra and the reason why it was the most beautiful sound in the whole world would who've eason's i. Every member of the orchestra was a maestro. The they learned to play the instrument so wealth beautifully triangle thing. He was an expert of the triangle but more than that having learned how to play the instrument. Well number two in an orchestra date all how to play together in harmony. That's why it's the most beautiful sound. And he thought wouldn't it be wonderful if all the religions in the world have out of my yana. Yana is that sunni shiites. Hindus christians protestants catholics jews. Whatever wouldn't it be wonderful. If all the religions in the well having learn how to be maestros instrument then learn how to play together in harmony. Beautiful sound thank you for that. Jim brown you had written some essays and been published as the league minutes. It rules for theravada tradition. We talked about monks and money. But it's months and months and not allowed to accept money for themselves nor are they allowed to tell a trustworthy person to receive on their behalf and keep it for them for example keeping a personal bank account. Such practices explicitly prohibited eighteenth. Little of a section of denial as we know in behind a tradition. They they they have. They have different roles and also i think monks today take the arms bowl and go to the hawk central market to ask for money. So what's your view on that given that What you've said in what's being practiced today the about the rules about and money. it's true especially theravada mons because tyrod opinion there's anyone here. This opinion is the patches for vox and that's not to accept money especially for personal use. You don't need money. I live in the western countries that venerable knocking him. It is england. And you never need to have money. There's always people cop to your national people get inspired when you died. Exp- accept money because you're supposed to be monks. What does the word monk mean. I mean someone is the world now. it doesn't have any sex few possessions and doesn't have the money that's what it means. It's interesting in the history of buddhism one hundred years off the buddha pasta way. There was a controversy in the town of way saudi. You know what. The controversy was over where the monks could use money or not because group of said hundred years of pas now. It's a time when the times have changed. It's not the same as when the buddha was out. We should modernize puts allow us to have money. That was actually the reason hundred years after the time of the buddha. Two thousand four hundred years ago and democracy are said he doesn't need to have money and keep the old rules of the voter rolls of simplicity because actually said in a sang you to nikai and the government is that eddie monk who consents to accept money also consents the five cents pleasures. Anyone who could says the five cents. Prejudice is not a decide of mine so clear. The buddhist said so. I think it's good to encourage monks. Not accept run any more for the sake of inspiring people you can give money. It's the tempur that to build the hots and things like that you can give money to the to the Charity funds and temples and go out Looking off the sick people provide medicine for them and shout will work but that the why does not need money. I don't have to pay off a mortgage and i'd have to pay off rates on a car. What do i need money for. The sometimes it was wanted the month and individual won. Money need money if i go anywhere. The reason for it because i could invited to give talks. There's no reason to travel the stadium on street. i haven't had mighty puts reds the eight years. And i've lived a wonderful life and whatever i needed something. There's always been someone to give it to me so you rely on faith in some of my mind's inspired by them some of the moscow to foreign countries like japan and india without any copiers without any attendance somebody officer may be paying ticket to daddy to gun pits of the holy sites. They get off the With no one to meet them with no money in their pockets with arms and they walk and they walk and they see all the holy places without any problem until live because the kind people india. There are kind people in japan even in england. Something with saying they go wandering in ireland catholic country with arms bow with no news with no attendance. Miss always people will stop them and is what do you do who are you. We've learned a panelist month. Can we give you something to eat. Kinda give you a place to stay. People are months of so much. Trust them faith. In the buddhist teachings they can go to even non buddhist countries in the west without any attendance. No one holding money for them just with pay and they always get fed almost every day. No it's good a place to stay and that is so inspiring to keeping those old traditions lovely. Actually if we really want to create an inspirational buddhism for the twenty first century you want to go back to the heart of reporters. The simplicity which the buddha had the mouse with few possessions. Meditating meditate diligently going to be a teacher really yourself to teaching really sort of help other people. You're going to be ministered among administer. But you don't need to have money to do that. That's a job of the late support. Not the mountains so kindness out of compassion out of phase especially the buddhist teachings. Please keep impure where this money. This power where this powder corruption so many months in thailand burma other places. Thank you so much money. They've become corrupt said. Please keep putting in pure keep it simple. Please keep it inspiring only. Would it make you cry when a lot of happiness. They'll also inspire every people at person. There's a show of hands. How many of you walk amongst to keep the crease steps especially not to have money hands. Monks have a have a look around the only hands. Okay is that how many people we that how many people want monks to have have money. Go on the proposal here of different set of rules from the forest. It's interesting comment public david. Because it's very interesting but my own experiences. Whenever i've gone even when you feel sick there's always kind of people you know when i travel. I never had insurance. Why don't have insurance. Because if i feel sick like good comedies my traffic shorts you know if i felt sick here. We seventy people what to look after me. Seventy dollars just wanted to make good fact. I'm very careful if i get sick not to show it. Give high of a little car by the following morning got certainly bottles of medicine. In fact you've a very careful because people always say you must take medicine. You must take my medicine to call that. Mets log really be sick. It is too many months to stay in the city as well. I spend a lot of time these days much travel. I travel a lot never once. Have i needed money nipple. One the twenty eight years. So i think even sixty months try and see if see if you can actually go without money. Safe here is a safety mark and see if it works and see if you can go traveling without money if it was. We'd have all theories of what it should be like that. Sometimes the practice is always more powerful than the ideas and feelings anyway. Do i regain the trust and confidence for the ones that i love most yet headlight to me before. And how do. I overcome the fear in the fighting heart of uncertainty. Okay first of all shooting. The big war is very powerful. They've lied to you once. But how many times did they told the truth. You know any relationship sometimes. We don't think it's worth saving. That's why we give it up sometimes when people get guilty. I don't think they're worth forgiving. That's why we always feel guilty where we feel depressed thing that life is worth being happy about. That's why we get depressed so we have a relationship with someone sometimes doesn't worse saving. That's why you've got. Wanna give them if you actually see the good qualities to the other bricks in the wall. See the other things said about you. Know just the one. I of the two of the three lives even just one or two bad things else if you shed in your whole life together and cotton you forgive. Another person isn't the always supposed to spend a loving kindness to all beings. If your son lied to you your daughter lie to you. Would you say it out of my house. Never come back again. This is interesting that the way we have loved to partner or husband are why it's so different than the way we have two children love towards are husband and wife even though we go to such a great leg to choose our partner in life or husband or wife in fact. That's the biggest decision we make in our lives. You spend more time choosing a wife or husband than we do choosing our car. Some people go test driving these days. My goodness but least at least they really go choose. I spent all this time choosing their partner but that does spend any time choosing their children. The children's come into your life. You don't know what you get to where they come from know the covered pass but even though we thought children will love them forever no matter what they do. I've seen many children go to jail. There's such bad people but martin father special always go to visit. The mothers. never give up on their children. It's wonderful to see this far. And even some of those people just terrible kids but we so easily give up the husband so easy easily. Give up on our way collie change the love. We have to opt hot into the same life we have two children of you have to. Your child is called unconditional. Love the no matter where they go no matter what they do if they good. That's wonderful bad this to your daughter is still. Wouldn't it be wonderful if he could do that. To partner and husband and wine to say to your husband to say the away the dog my heart is always you no matter what you have on your husband. I always love you. Always you with no conditions. My goodness that's raising the bar of love to a sublime level. that's forgiveness. I mentioned that because that was my father said to me. When i was about thirteen or fourteen years of age he told me aside and said sodden about what you do in your life. The dog my house would always be open to you what he said. I realized it wasn't off his house. Human you met in the door of his heart. Whatever you do in your life son the door. My heart will always be open to that. Meant so much to me. My father gave me unconditional. Love no matter what i did. It always me my that. You'd always love me and care for me. Currently do that to each other especially to wife and husband you try that you have the guts to say to the one you chose tonight no matter what you do. Why osborne the dog my heart will always be to. You'll find your partner will rise up to the case. I rose to my father's love. He wants to destroy this disappoints. I want so so wonderful you who gave us unconditional love if your wife or husband is set semi but it may done instead with your best friend or something you go out to them. Say why husband about what you've done. I still care if you're not the my heart. Still i give you what mr bush who said that doesn't matter. How many of my countrymen you've killed terrorists fundamentalist islamic the dog. My heart is open to you as well. I was still be offense. I still would. I've done that shook the whole world. That'd be far more powerful any bombs that'd be like a a megaton hydrogen bomb of loving kindness. That wanted them. So if you want. Mr bush do that the iraqis you do that to your wife. We have three more questions. That five minutes orca us parents usually say they have gone through life much more than us however sometimes been we're what we're seeking fall probably in their relationship with al partner. It's not what our parents expect us to have due to their own. Good reasons to not agree with them. Does that mean we're being Not failure okay. This the differences of parents and children. Please talk with your children. Peace talk with your parents. Please listen one. You're talking both of you and be kind because sometimes it's so hard being a child. Sometimes you need that feed into to make mistakes and attach you to learn for yourself sometime. Pets be so controlling children and sometimes chiller could be so stop listening to their parents so both of us to back the increase. Your your wisdom. You're hearing you're listening and sometimes you have to choose a partner wise sometimes now when you forward it a lot. That's the worst time to choose a partner because love is crazy is blind. Knows what you love you know. You cannot live with a few months but what you don't see. Yeah you have to live with a long time off until we weighed you fall in love you got one at a disco candidate dinners under the move anywhere stock movies before where it stock because you can't really say what you guys out with. Sometimes you could see much more than you see so if you want to choose a partner in life look what you. I wake up in the morning in the middle of the day you say well. She's really like what he's really like. Listen to your pets because they got a lot of wisdom but also the systems the children and sometimes we all have to learn by our own mistakes so sometimes parents had to let them make mistakes and be there for them afterwards. Sometimes that giving your children freedom to control them forever. You know how i look. After their children sometimes but go without food for days on end they look after that nets things who does so well until the old enough to fly out enough to fry kick them out of the nest and they can never come back again. They really know how to let go. But you people human beings you worry about the rest of your life. Can you the believe by the following on The truth expressed by the lea home. She mentions about the third. I and many other such things okay office. I don't really know. Follow very much. But i know that no person knows with aegis group or no gulu number legionnaires the owner of the truth. The truth is like the ad it free for. Everyone to breathe in buddha's only show the way they haven't got a paint on the truth now on can peyton to not like windows now windows but sometimes i put a stupid when people sell things. You know it's amazing. If any of you know evian water that's wall to the people so many people have noticed. Evian is naive but watson is so often is that we get good as teachers charging for things we think is really good. The truth be free and freeing. That's a question. If you believe that that i the third is to is not the but you also the i of the vaccine the and that's actually the my naughty with the that's not going to have a third of the wisdom that's the best i. Okay go run last question not among or not yet anyway. So i need to excel in my career. How do i succeed. If i don't have any cravings for sucks if Having success instead of having cravings for success have craving for happiness. Because sometimes you work very hard. Sometimes success doesn't come even sometimes people who who have very skillful very clever. They work very hard. Everyone becomes successful. Change what you're craving for aspiring for happiness is important thing while the success and then you find. Maybe the people won't think your success with my word. You are successful because you're happy because you're content. Could you have a wonderful family was really important in life that you think your success or the other people taking of success because you think you're a success while other people say they don't recognize what success is what success story is now. I'm a success story. I think so anyway. I very happy but other people in the world. So you're stupid. You know you turn away all of your degrees and career. You sit out all day doing nothing telecity so if people in australia successful this so when you want to be a success paint sure that you give the criteria for success. It's not the world. Sometimes that new people they may be simple people. Just lovely husband lovely. Why nice children not known in the world and very wealthy for my goodness says accessible the successfully happiness and contentment. The world is of no that the world doesn't take this accessible. Who who do. We signed a successful world. You know people like madonna or eminem or mr beckham over. Now take these all these people. Are they successful. What is the criteria for success on the charts. It about this. He said the one that he made a prediction one day. They'd run out of a paper to make money. And i also run out of metals to make coins so i'd have to find something else to make money out of. And he said what they'd make money out of his chicken ship they get little pellets of chicken ships. When you go to work on a friday get so much bags of chicken shit and you put it in the in the bank and you'd wonder who's got the most taking shit in the world and i love chicken shift from the bank. Can you conceive back in the day. The international monetary fund will become international. When you're carrying all this chicken in your bags and pockets. What's the difference between parents have taken down and money has that story. it is just as value. We give on this paper stuff all this metal stuff. That's all it's just stuns. Isn't it metal pipe which comes from trees. Actually what is what is money. it's just a value. We keep on it and the thing is we give value on the wrong things we should give value of. You know your inner happiness contentment especially family which money comes by under the most valuable things in the world. That's why this evening dumber talk. We didn't charge you this talk. Thank you brian. And i think with that For tonight but the There are two more talks tomorrow so please make a point to attend them.
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This is the show for the people to help us navigate a rick system teachable moments from the so-called law and order headlines listened to holding court with k williams on the iheartradio app and apple. Podcast or wherever you get your podcast presented by pepsi. Zero sugar he daniel. Dear think we should explore the universe with all five senses I'm definitely a fan of looking out into space but we have other senses. Have you thought about what base bells like will astronauts aboard that space. Smells a little bit like barbecue really. Does it taste like barbecue. Also i don't know maybe frozen barbecue. I guess why it doesn't feel like barbecue. Space is not that saucy it turns out or sound like barbecue sound of aliens preparing their barbecue. Grills were not on the menu. Talk about first contact. I course i am more hammy cartoons and creator of comics. I'm daniel. I'm a particle physicist and i do love me a barbecue so released mostly barbeque in space. It does actually we listener question recently. About what space smells like And they're bunch of really interesting organic molecules out there in space like cling to spacesuits and then release themselves when you come back inside and they smell like sometimes like sulfur sometimes like barbecue. What does that mean. like the astronauts. Go out into space space spacewalk and then when they come in smell like barbecue. Exactly when they open up their helmets again after they've come back in the stuff that stuck to their spacesuit now goes up their nostrils and it smells a little bit like barbecue guess technically burke's are partly verse. Oh yeah the universe does smell like barbecue acid. It does matter. Like other things our barbecued universe. Welcome to our podcast daniel. In explaining the universe eight production of iheartradio in which we use all sorts of absurd food analogies to explain to you what the universe is like is a doobie and saucy is chewy and stringy. Can you bite right through it but really we wanna make sure that you understand the nature of the universe. The things that scientists are thinking about the things that we are mentally chewing on and the things we have not yet been able to digest. That's right because even analogies are part of the universe and so it's a broad topic that we are discussing here daniel and jorges analogies with other analogies. You feels like a we become pounding a problem there but it is a pretty interesting universe out there and a lot going on like if you just sit there and basin you float. You can smell things. You can feel things amateur radiation hitting you and you can see definitely a lot out there in the universe absolutely and we are continuing to invent new ways to interact with our universe and basically every time we do. We find something shocking. We discover something else out there. In the universe we didn't even know existed. Yep we're just sitting here in one corner of away which is sitting in one corner of the observable universe and we're getting a lot of signals from everywhere basically anything that gives a light we get light and we detected with our telescopes and our antennas. Exactly we are drowning in information from the universe much of which we didn't even know existed until recently for example most of astronomy has been done using visible light night that you can see with your eyes and even may be enhanced with telescopes but there are really interesting signals in rays and on the other side of the spectrum down to radio waves you can also look at all the particles that are washing over us. Neutrinos and other crazy sources of information about what's going out there. In the universe and recently we added gravitational waves to our toolkit for listening to the universe and each of these tells us something different about the nature of the universe because different stuff out. There emits in different ways. Some gives off light some radio waves sound gravitational waves. Each one can tell something different about what's out there in the universe. What sense would you use. Daniel describe detecting gravitational wave like what what sense. You need to detect gravity. The feeling do we hear it. Do we see you would feel it. Technically because it's a space quake right. It's like a shaking of space itself space contracts. It expanded wiggles. So that's really what's happening in a lot of science communication abou- gravitational waves though they talk about listening to the universe. They talk about like the chirp of black holes. I think that's a tiny bit confusing because we're not using our ears to hear these things we're not getting sound waves from gravitational waves. What they've done is taken. The frequency of those waves transform them into sound waves. And then listen to them. we're feeling the gravitational waves. Yeah think gravitational waves is the shaking of space All right well. There are a lot of things out there giving of a light and signals and gravity and for the most part. We know where it's coming from over or what's making these signals. But sometimes there are surprises. There are almost always surprises and a lot of times. These things are picked up by accident. Somebody develops a new kind of antenna or a new kind of telescope and looks out at the university. First time may be looking for one thing and finding something totally different and then puzzling over and wondering like What's making all that light or meeting all that radiation and those are fascinating includes tells about something new out there in the universe or something. We knew about that doing something we didn't know about. Yeah and there is one particular signal out there that is basically all around is you can hear it in every direction. But we don't know what's making it. It's sort of this weird unexplained phenomena and it's also got a hilarious name to it it. Does it in physics. How surprising i'm shocked. Hilarious and some ways misleading. Well today on the podcast. We'll be tackling the question. What is the space roar. Daniel is like a roar like lions were or is it more like a cat's meow like rare like is the universe caddy or is you know matt had. It's morning coffee. At what is the universes attitude. Does the universe need to go to therapy like dude. Chill out somebody of the universe in belgium. What's definitely cool kill leave. I think we've established that and it kinda hot sometimes. Yeah exactly roy. Moore is a pretty funny name. Really i would call this. Space hiss space his his. Yeah exactly like the space. Buzz space buzz. That would have been a great name for it. The space home let's That makes it sound like alien music. Like gregorian alien chance The space whistle. While you work yeah exactly. I think all of those would have been more accurate names than the space row. Now you calling for our differently than our own a are. Oh yeah. That's more like the space meow. Yeah yeah but anyways it is a thing the space roar and it's kind of a big mystery in physics and we were wondering how many people out there knew what it was or had heard of it or been a subject of its attitude. Though thanks to everybody who's willing to guess at the true nature of something poorly named by astronomers if you're willing to participate for a future episode. Please write to me two questions at daniel and horrid dot com. I like how you just totally through astronomer spending the bus there a physicist. You deathly specifically said as toronto's there. Well i feel like they are the target of your criticism. More often than other kinds of visits mr particle man. Yeah we got strange teams. We got charming names. But you know astronomers there may be. Let's call them more creative with their names. Member that whole episode about space centaurs. Let's not hear me roar about this topic or not just about it all right well. As usual daniel went out there and ask people what they thought. This base roar was. Don't think about it for a second. If someone asks you what would you say. How would you hazard. Here's what people had to say Same as it's called aurora. I imagine it's got to do with sound waves. And i think that might come from all directions in space. The space roar sort of reminds me of tiger or lion but in our universe. I think that the space roy could be like an explosion maybe can be compared to the big bang and maybe this explosion was the beginning of something. I don't know if it could have been the beginning of a galaxy. The spice raw on fairly said is islands. Probably a he can only be radio waves since nobody can scream at us. Who wouldn't hear it because in avoid the sound cannot travel so this road can be in radio. We always talk about light and energy being transmitted through space but a lot of what happens in the universe also produces could produce sound if there is something to convey that sounds so is this some sort of accumulation of that. I have no idea. And i say. Do you have a space tiger space lion tiger. Yeah that was basically your answer. Yeah and some people assume it has something to do with ray ways or at least some sort of waves that we're in getting out there from the universe totally solid response there yet but technically can you get sound from space. I know in space. No one can hear you scream but is that because you wearing a helmet or can i town right anything where you describe something. We get from space in terms of sound is usually playing the same trick we talked about with respect to gravitational waves where you're getting some other kind of wave and always have a frequency and you transform that wave into a sowed ways. You can listen to it. This is no different than like taking radio. Waves or x rays from space. Which you can't see visually and then just shifting them in the spectrum so that you can see them like a false color image so no you can't actually hear any sounds from space because sounds are mechanical waves. They require like air shifting or something making into something else So we can't hear anything. Technically from space right but spaces in completely empty is rights not a perfect vacuum. There's a little bit of gas in hydrogen everywhere isn't her know exactly. There are some particles out there as you can imagine. There are some light waves in the solar wind for example oscillations. That happened like the sun has a period of eleven years. Were like his lots of ups and downs in the radiation. It emits so you can imagine waves propagating in that medium. And perhaps you could imagine actually listening to them. So yeah there are ways you're right for sound to propagate through not totally empty space space is also not empty in another way. We always talk about space. Being filled with quantum fields and those fields can propagate waves and for example. That's what a photon. Is it a wave in the electromagnetic field in otherwise empty space Tells good till they can't hear these agreements space from radiation burning. Probably if you scream in light than yes people can hear you scream all right. So there's this big mystery in physics called the space roar. Now daniels step was through this. What is this space for. This space roar is totally weird unexplained source of radio from space. And that's why they're called the space war because it comes in the radio spectrum which is a spectrum where we often listen to write. You might even be hearing this podcast on the radio which means it's been transmitted using radio waves so because we associate radio waves with sound often. I think that's why it got this name. Space roar but basically it's unexplained tours of radio waves from space against meaning that. If you turn on your radio you would taint be able to listen to this war right. Yeah exactly since it is coming in through the radio You need a radio antenna and remember that radio. Waves are just another part of the electro-magnetic spectrum. All these are photons you all of it light if you want. But they're all just part of the same wiggling of electromagnetic fields in the center of the spectrum. There is visible light above that there's uv light and then x rays below it. There's infrared light and below that are radio waves radio waves are just photons with a very very long wavelength and you know as we were saying. Earlier for centuries people were doing astronomy only by looking at visible light. The light you could see with your eyes and of course there's a lot of fascinating information about stars in the universe. You can see you just with your eyes or gathering more of those visible otani into a telescope but in the nineteen thirties. Those is amazing discovery. That you can actually listen to the sky using radio waves also and there was a huge source of radio. Waves coming to us from space Today we discovered that was it through. Like actual radio's no. It was really interesting. Accidents discovery by this guy. Jansky he was hired by the bell telephone company they wanted to beam radio signals across the atlantic and they were worried that thunderstorms would generate radio interference so they hired him to like listen to the radio spectrum carefully and see if he could understand these forms of interference so he built basically a huge radio telescope the first radio telescope just to gather radio waves and he heard a lot of stuff that he couldn't explain as coming from earth Interesting totally an unintended. Totally unintended yeah. I was like a fascinating little piece of science. He heard this weird his he couldn't explain and actually he discovered that it was correlated with the rotation of the earth which is how we knew it wasn't coming from the earth. It's like seeing something in the sky. You see once a day you know that like as the earth is turning its appearing in the sky but he was looking at the sky in a different spectrum right. He was looking at the sky in the radio waves and what. He actually listening to was radio emissions from the center of the galaxy. Wow and so here. It was like a whole new way to listen to this guy to look out at the universe. Nobody ever thought that there are natural sources of radio. Waves are in the universe and by listening to them. We could tell what's going on and the whole field is hilarious order because nobody really did anything about it till ten years later when this guy outside. Chicago built the world's first radio telescope by himself in his backyard and he was basically the only radio astronomer in the world for about ten years. Wow a pioneer a pioneer absolutely in his garage in his backyard. This thing is huge. It's one of these big dishes. So jansky first one was just like a string of antennas on a b. wheel that he turn and then river. He built the first dish to concentrate radio waves and collect them together. And that's the sort of radio dish that we have now like air cbo until recently was big radio telescope and we have other big radio telescopes. You can see them there. These huge dishes and have to be big because radio has very long wavelengths bright. I guess it's sort of like you know. Maybe astronomers at the time were still busy trying to figure out what they were seeing in the visible light spectrum and so it nobody thought to look in other wavelengths. yeah exactly there's still plenty of astronomy to do invisible light dealer still doing it now but you know there's a lot of spectra out there in the universe looks different at different spectrums of different things glow at different temperatures. Some things are very bright in the v very darkened invisible light or they're very strong radio and mirrors and they're very quiet in the visible and so it's sort of like looking at the universe in color. Instead of in black and white you can see different things light up in different things being dark at different frequencies so sort of like extra colors to the universe. It's really a great way to sort of understand what's out there right right. It's a great romantic line. Dear you're glowing in the x ray speker all right. So that was his that he heard back then. But now we're hearing a roar and it's sort of unexplained too. What's the history of this roar when we first started listening to it or seeing ahead and who did it. So there's an experiment. Developed called the arcade instrument arcade one of these tortured acronyms stands for absolute radiometer for cosmology astrophysics in diffuse emission but is basically a really sensitive radio. Antenna attached to a balloon goes up into the atmosphere and that listens to radio waves. And they're trying to really accurately measure these sources of radio waves. They want to understand things like the very early universe that want to listen to the cosmic background. Radiation and detect deceive like the first stars in the universe gave it a little bit of hot spots here and there and so they launched this probe something like ten fifteen years ago and it was one of the most sensitive probes to radio waves and they heard this crazy his that they couldn't explain. Where did they launch. It was this one of these like antarctic balloons or was it outside chicago. Also epi center of radio astronomy it was launched from spot in texas nasa has a scientific balloon facility. There and this thing is not just like a normal balloon. It's one of these like massive weather balloons and as it goes up it gets really really big and this thing went up to thirty seven kilometers above the earth surface All right so then. They sent out this balloon. And they i guess where they will pointed can appointed around and that's when they heard this roar they can't point it is just sort of like floats around. They don't steer it but it has a bunch of antennas on it so you can get directional formation about the signals. You're picking up based on like when they arrive at the instruments. It's sort of like parallel or like binocular vision and so they can tell where things are coming from. And so you know. They saw a lot of the expected stuff in the radio. You can see the sun. You can see the galactic center you can see jupiter. You can see other galaxies that are putting out radio waves. And that's sort of what they expected but they also found this sort of like overall signals these uniform if that nobody'd ever occurred before and it's much much stronger than anything. They expected interesting. All right. it's getting to a little bit more in detail of this his and then let's talk about where it could be coming from and what it could be but first let's take a quick break It's crazy how much we have to pay for outdated impersonal healthcare and even crazier that we all just accepted. It's time to face facts. Healthcare is backwards. 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I'll just take one more just to be sure. Yep still very good. Some things never change like never being able to take just one free sample and geico saving folks. Lots of money on their car. Insurance it is that macadamia nut. I taste can take one more sir. I thought so fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. We're talking about this space roar. A mysterious signal. The arcade instrument detected on a balloon. Thirty seven kilometers up in this guy. Now daniel this is different than the cosmic microwave background. Radiation right c. n. b. r. This is different from the cnbc. No we're not living in the marvel universe. The cnbc does emit in the radio right. Part of the cnbc is in the radio. Spectrum is a bit of confusing terminology here because sometimes waves in this part of the spectrum are called radio sometimes they're called. Microwaves through the same thing. Essentially anything longer than a millimeter. You could call a breakaway of or you could call it a microwave so you could also call it the cosmic radio background To it is sort of like the cosmic microwave background but it's a different wavelength. Yeah exactly they were looking at the slightly longer wavelength portion that not as well studied because what they wanted to understand was can they see like the heat. The light put out from some of the first stars in the universe which would have emitted in the radio. Those are there. Scientific goals measure this part of the spectrum really really accurate in studied for hints about the formation of the first star which they hoped would leave a little fingerprint on this part of the universe. Oh i see. They send that balloon up to study the specific day but in the radio wave wavelength. Yeah exactly and to study sort of the longer tails of the cnbc. Which have studied as precisely using like kobe. In plunk and w map and those other satellites so has a slightly different sensitivity than other instruments so sort of the first time people looked with this precision at this part of the spectrum All right so then. I guess they expected to hear like a background his but what they find was not quite what they were expecting to find. Yeah they expected to find the cnbc as we talked about that part of the spectrum the also expected to hear sort of like a diffused background in like all the galaxies that are out there they admit in the radio especially the strong black hole at their center. They're going to be giving off a lot of radio as you expect searches like a diffuse source of noise out there in the universe in radio waves but they heard this his. That's not the comes at a different wavelength and is much much stronger than you would expect just from like all the galaxies. Admitting it's like six times larger than what we can explain way. Why can it be this. Cnbc while we know the be pretty well. The seem be is what you expect from. Like two point. Seven degree kelvin. Black body amidror. So we know it's spectrum and we know it's intensity and this is just much bigger than the. Cnbc's does not consistent with what you would expect from the cnbc I see and it's much bigger than what you would expect from. Just a general like din of the universe the general radio-wave background of the universe. Yeah exactly and is the most sensitive instrument in this area is also has an absolute calibration. Which is the reason we first heard it. Most of the radio balloons and other things listened to this part of the spectrum before would always just do a relative calibration. They would like listen to two points and look for example at radio from the center of the galaxy relative to just sort of like an average direction so previous experiments couldn't detect like an overall background noise because they were always measuring relative to the background noise. This is the first experiment that can actually measure the background noise itself because it has an absolute calibration on it and so this is the first time we realized that the background noise that din you were talking about is just much larger than what we can explain. You know. it's like if you walked into a room expecting there to be ten people in there but instead there's the noise from sixty people whereas all is noise coming from Mysterious something out there in the universe like this one they calibrated by i guess shielding it completely or just having like knowing their instruments much that they know what no radio emissions would sound like this thing they shielded the cool it down to two point. Seven degrees kelvin using superfluid liquid helium which is pretty awesome and they also have a device on their which gives out a known signal. So it has its own calibrated on it which they can calibrate absolutely they know what they should be hearing from this so rather than just using the sky to calibrate where you're sensitive to background noise in the sky. They have their own little calibration source. This little add on thing. They did to make more sensitive so they could like calibrating more precisely and what they discovered is that oops the background from. The sky was much bigger than everybody had thought and nobody had been sensitive to it before because nobody else had done their own calibration. I see now. Is this coming from a particular direction. Or it's like it's coming from everywhere. It seems to be coming from everywhere right. It's really weird. It comes from all directions and we don't know yet like is coming from our galaxy or is it coming from other galaxies. It's really confusing. If it was coming from other galaxy to be pretty surprising within it because they're so far away that that signals should be pretty weak by the time it gets here to would-be a pretty big source at those galaxies. It would be you know. Some of those galaxies really pump out radio waves. All galaxies put out radio for example like andromeda. It puts out ten thirty two watts. Like that's just a huge number. It's hard to wrap your mind around. your light. bulb was like fifty watts. Hundred watts and drama puts out ten thirty two watts. And it's all noise. It's not even like playing good music or anything but that's actually a fairly quiet galaxy. Some of the galaxies out there like a puts out a million times as much radio energy so these galaxy right there really far away. They're millions of light years away but they're still very loud in the radio. Which just tells you how intense they are Be the source of this space for will. That was the first ideas that people thought. Oh well you know. Maybe the galaxies are louder than we thought but we can listen to the individual galaxies. We can tell basically how loud galaxies are in order to explain with galaxies. You'd need to add more galaxies because you need this like diffuse emission notches from individual galaxies. But they're sort of isn't enough space to add more galaxies like if you just said one of their a bunch of galaxies out there we didn't know about somehow then you'd have to pack them into the universe like sardines and so you can't really explain this just by like adding more galaxies To be galaxies. Could it be something specific like Near just happens to be like a pulsar aimed at us or something like that or a quasar is coming from all directions right so would you need is like a very large population of something all of which is omitting these sources An emitting like noise to write not any frequencies in specific. Yeah well down here in the radio but exactly. It's not like a spike like very narrow peak. And you know maybe we should talk about like why things emit radio because that helps us understand what it is that's generating this sound All right yeah how. What makes things amid radio eight will. We've a few sort of categories of things that can make radios. One is just things being hot. You know everything in the universe gives off radiation called black body radiation depending on your temperature and things that are really hot. Above higher frequency radiation for example like x rays and ultraviolet light from really really hot things things like the sun give off in the visible spectrum things like cool clouds of gas and dust give off in the infrared but things also emit in the radio so like being dark dust clouds out there in space that are really pretty cold. They glow in the radio spectrum. That's one source of radio. Waves and other source comes from dislike. Magnetic fields charged particles when they moved to magnetic field they get bent like for example when the solar wind hits the earth's magnetic field. You get the northern lights right. The particles are emitting light when they ben because anything. That accelerates anything that turns into magnetic field has to give off a photon to do that. And if things have the right speed than those photons radio waves so if you have charged particles moving through a magnetic field you're gonna get photons and sometimes those photons are radio waves But maybe my favorite soares of radios is it. Turns out that there are sort of natural molecular. Laser is out there in space natural molecular laser. A laser works when you like passing through a resonant cavity as material in that can sort of amplify it and we wanna go in detail into the physics of lasers but there are sometimes out there in space these dense pockets of molecular clouds and if light passes through them at the right frequency it can become a mazer it is basically a laser but in the microwave spectrum and mirror microwaves and radio as basically the same thing and says sometimes out there there. Are these basically radio lasers to sort of naturally occurring. So the those. What's causing these baseball. No we don't think those things happen often enough to explain the space war. There wouldn't be coming in every direction. Those things typically come from like the clouds inside our milky way but these emissions. Don't follow the pattern of the milky way right like they don't lie along the plane of the milky way. Remember the milky as flat disk and so if these things were coming from our galaxy from something in our galaxy you would expect it to be like in the disk of the galaxy and that when you pointed your antennas away from the gods he would get fainter but it doesn't seem to be in every direction so either the milky way has the new structure in it that tends to be like a spherical halo around us. That's meeting this or it's coming from somewhere outside the galaxy Like it doesn't seem to get louder when you sit. Listen towards the center of the galaxy. It's like pretty even all around. This is pretty even in every direction. And that's why they call it the space roar because it's just like filling space with this sound right right. It's trying to make a statement but three. It's really exciting because it's like a puzzle. It's like something out. There is giving off radiation and we don't have an explanation for it and that tells us that it has to be something new who are about to learn something new about the universe. Something in the universe has been screaming at us forever and we only recently heard it and so that to me is exciting because it makes us be creative about what could possibly be out there. Is it something. We're familiar with screaming in a way we didn't expect or is it something totally new out there. That's creating this crazy radiation right. And i guess they're pretty sure it's not a technical issue right like they've calibrated. Pretty good calibrated is pretty good. Exactly they were really surprised to see this so they spent a long time. There's no like an aha moment. One evening they did this flight in over the last several days but they spent months and months and months analyzing this data removing background. Noises removing other background noises. Checking i sources of mistakes and uncertainty in calibration cross-checking redouble cross-checking. Because you know it takes a lot of guts to publish a paper like this to say. There's something we don't understand in our data your fear at night when you wake up in the wait a second. Did i remember to check for this thing. Is you overlooked that. You're making a mistake. It's exciting right to say we've found something new we don't understand what is also a little terrify so they definitely crossed their t.'s and dotted there is. These are very careful folks especially this one because the discoveries. Not very specific right. I mean they're basically saying. Hey we're getting a lot more noise in our instrument than we think we should With just means that you. You're not in her right but here they're saying that this could be something new in the universe. Yeah they're pretty sure. This is actual signal from space and not just an artifact of their instrument and you know this is a very carefully engineered instrument like the air flying liquid helium up in a balloon like they spent a lotta time designing this thing. I read the design paper. And it's very detailed. These folks definitely did their homework. And so i certainly believe that this is a signal from space which now let us wonder about you. Know what is it. Know another aspect of writing paper like this when you see a new signal from space is you're sort of putting it out there and you're not naming the source of it. You love to see a new thing for space and at the same time explaining. Because you're like wow look a new signal and we discovered something new. Here's the explanation. That'd be like a complete scientific story instead. You sort publish the experiment and they go on. I don't know and then everybody gets to play with it but it sort of opens the door for somebody else to come in and explain your discovery right right. Yeah it's very open and collaborative that's all right so it can be other galaxies because there aren't enough galaxies to make this rumour and it it's probably not magnetic field or the cosmic microwave radiation. So the question is what could it be. Talk about that but first. Let's take a quick break. Did you know one medium. Sweet potato contains four times. The daily recommended dose of vitamin. Hey it's also a great source of vitamin e. c. calcium fiber have. It's proven to help control blood sugar levels not sure the best way to prepare it. Don't worry the north carolina sweet potato commission invites you to eat sweet. Nc dot com find an exclusive recipe. Just for podcast listeners. Go to eat sweep. Nc dot com and register for a chance to win a kitchen aid mixer. Eat sweet and dot com. 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I'm gonna guess we're going to start with the boring and build up to the bunkers one. Absolutely those are the most boring explanation is that maybe there are just more magnetic fields than we thought remember when charged particles fly to magnetic fields they bend and bending means acceleration and when any charged. Particle accelerates it has to give off a photon just basic conservation of momentum can't move in one direction without pushing something else off the other direction. And that's usually a photon so if magnetic fields out. There are stronger than we thought they were. Then there's gonna be more of this kind of radiation from charged particles than we thought and if they're sort of everywhere then charged particles are going to be basically a roaring at us and remember. We did an episode about whether or not space itself is magnetized. Because we've been discovering as we've been trying to measure magnetic fields through the universe that magnetic field kind of everywhere like there's definitely one from the earth and the sun and jupiter and even our galaxy has a magnetic field but recently we discovered that there are magnetic fields between galaxies and between galaxy clusters and there might even be magnetic field out there in the huge void where there's just nothing that might just be. That speech has more magnets than we thought which leads to more particles of roaring at us. Right of the universe More attractive than we thought. It has a certain glow to good. Basically right exactly more active than we thought you know. It's more magnetic. There's more things that you can't really quite see that are happening in there And you know you need to ingredients to make a roar from magnetic fields you need the magnetic field and then you also need the particles and as you were saying space is not empty right particles everywhere even between galaxies in fact like half of the stuff in the universe is the intergalactic plasma the between galaxies so there are a lot of particles out there flying through these magnetic field and if they are larger than we expect that could be the source of the space roar right but do we know what coughing these magnetic fields or what would cause a magnetic fields to be. That's wrong to generate this roar. We definitely do not know the source of these magnetic fields which is sort of like awesome in crazy that something as basic as like the magnetic field of the universe can't be explained. People are talking about like weird unknown mechanisms inside these between galaxies but my favorite possible explanation for what causing these magnetic fields is that maybe they are primordial. Maybe they date from the origin of the universe itself. No the universe was created some energy to sort of like into magnetic field and then got stuck there so leftover energy from the big bang captured in a magnetic field still around the dna of the universe. Yet it could be it could be people have forever assumed. The default configuration should be like no magnetic field know stuff new moving charges no magnets magnetic field but it might just be the baseline situation for the universe is to have magnetic fields in it so if you find that some interesting check out our whole episode about ease space magnetized a right and that's a vanilla explanation than some of the universe is inherently magnetic into super high degree than we thought it was possible. What's our next possibility. Next possibility is stuff happening you know. We talked about the technical term stuff happening. Isn't that the cullen definition in physics. Physics stuff happens but in this case it'd be exciting stuff happening. Physics exciting stuff happens. Yes exciting stuff is happening out there in the universe in this case it might be galaxies dancing around each other and eventually merging into these galaxies are sources of radio because they're black holes and because the big clouds of gas and dust that are in them and it might be that when galaxies merge that merging form some turbulence and turbulent sorta like gets these clouds of gas and dust to omit in the radio as louder than they otherwise would and so it could be that there's part of this process of galaxy merging that we don't quite understand. Oh i see it could be something a normal happening but when it happens at an extreme level which is don't have a good model for its. Maybe that's what's generating these waves. Yeah instead of having more galaxies out there have the same number of galaxies but have them do something different from what we expected some. Maybe there's more of these mergers happening than we thought or the mergers are more turbulent than we thought and that was giving off this roar so not new stuff but old stuff doing new and exciting things. Teaching old galaxies new tricks right physics stuff happens anyways all right to it could be merging galaxies. Well what else could it be. It could also just be something new out there in the universe. That's giving off radio missions as not on our list of things we understand you know it could be not stars. It could be not the centers of galaxies you could be you know not black body emission. It could be some new source of radio emission That we somehow have missed all this time. We somehow have missed and people have even connected for example to our favorite universe mystery which is dark matter. I hate it might be that dark. Matter is out there and that it can annihilate with itself member dark matter. We know is something massive. That's out there but we don't really know what it's made out of one hypothesis for dark matter is is really heavy particles that mostly just sit around and do nothing. But it's sort of hard to explain how you get dark matter and how you have the amount of dark matter that we have in the universe if there's no way for dark matter to be created or for to annihilate itself so people have thought of this idea that may be dark matter sometimes bumps into itself and then a n-i-l-l-a-s just like particle anti particle. Maybe his dark matter and dark matter. And sometimes it bumps into itself and then turns into for example normal matter like electrons and positron it's I see so maybe all the dark matter because there's a lot of dark matter in the universe. Maybe that's what's causing this glow. That's the idea that would make sense because dark matter is pretty diffused out. There were sit surrounded by a halo in our galaxy. That would sort of make sense. That would make a lot of sense so in more detail. The mechanism is that the dark matter particles annihilate and then create these electrons and positons but because dark matters heavy like much than electrons positons these particles would be created with sort of a lot of energy they'd be flying through the universe and when they hit magnetic fields they would bend and then they would give off some radio waves and so could be as you say that this is sort of a signal of a lot of dark matter surrounding the galaxy and giving off these electrons and positron which then roar at us dark matter. We know this five times as much of it as normal matter as you say. It's not spread through the galaxy in the same way. The normal outer is it tends to make big halo surrounds. Everything is fluffy in diffuse not as clumped and so that would be a good explanation while so basically matter would not be dark. So you're saying you'd have to rename it or would you continue with this incorrect name. Still dark it just wouldn't be quiet right. It'd be like screaming see now. You're mixing metaphors their danny. You're saying it's not in so much fun to mix your metaphors and put silly names on things. I see why astronomers are tempted. I just threw them under the bus again. No now i'm joining them. I'm saying you know what i get it. All right so it could be dark matter. That would be pretty exciting and pretty far out there but get to. In wilder gets wilder. I was reading some sort of bonkers ideas that there could be alternate universes out there right. This is like the multi-diverse theory. The idea that our universe is not the only universe as out there there are other universes out there and that these universe sort of echo with ours. And they're even ways for our universe to communicate with those universes for like radiation to slip from our universe to their universe. And is this crazy idea. This friedkin wolfram automate thanh with spreads across multiple universes lives and more than one universe and gives off radio signals. And so the idea is like maybe this could be evidence of universes. Yeah like you're saying like the shadow or the glow of other universes that are sort of on top of hours right. Yeah exactly. And i don't wanna be too quick beatty like this is total speculation. And it's not a prediction like if this idea had been invented before we heard it and somebody said i think there are multi verses out there and you can prove it if you hear this particular thing go out and look for and then we found it now would be convincing but you know once you see it and you don't know how to explain it and then later you cook up a crazy mold. Divers explanation for it is less convincing as an explanation is always more impressive to predict something to post disarming right but isn't that technically the same thing daniel it take it just depends on the order in which he do it but it's still the same sort of connection right. I think the orders were matters like you know naming lottery numbers after. They've picked the lotteries a lot easier than before right. It's sort of the same deal by telling the past is easier than telling the future. So i think order matters. Yeah right right. But i guess what i mean is that they could still be right. Oh because they came up with afterwards doesn't mean that they're all absolutely they could still be right absolutely but it's not really like evidence for this theory does not that hard to come up with a theory that describes what you see what's hard is a come up with a simple theory. That explains what you see. Which means it's capable of making predictions as what scientists about predicting the future not just describing the past. So you're right. We can't rule out this idea. The only way to rule it out to do future experiments to compare against their predictions. So it could totally be that we live in a multi-diverse and the space rory's from these other universes or radio emissions from these common overlapping elements of our universe. Could totally be. But you know. I don't over sell it right right. I wonder if it could be something more mundane could just be on no as coming from art technology. Could it be just human noise. Or i guess you would hear it only coming from earth. Yeah exactly it's not connected to the earth right. It seems to be coming from every direction. And it's independent of the orientation of the earth and also one of the reasons they launched. This thing on a balloon was to sort of trying to get away from earthbound sources of noise you know. The earth is very loud in the radio these days because there's so many cell phones and radio amid amidror's basically everywhere is a good place to do radio astronomy like on the dark side of the moon because it's shielded from the earth but it's kinda hard to get there so launching a balloon. Space is a good way to insulate yourself away from a lot of sources of earthbound noise Well i think i got daniel I think it's cell phone signals from idiots like we just happened to be in the middle of a couple of you know intergalactic alien cellphone towers. And that's what we're listening to. I can't believe nobody else's suggested that of obvious anti came up with before getting my hands into the data so technically count within the question is why are these alien roaring each other. Like what's going on. Can't you guys just calm it. Down you know was the cosmic equivalent of like knocking on your ceiling with the broomstick Well they're just talking on the phone exchanging emojis in means you know. We just don't know how to decode it will. We're busy here trying to listen to the origins of the universe and understand you know the heating of the first stars. And they're just like chatting with each other and we can't make out these cosmic signals. Yeah yeah well. That's what life is all about learning to live with your neighbors. Talking to your fellow sending beats all right so it's a big mystery in astronomy and physics. There's this big roar so it's still a mystery. And so what are people doing about it. Then you will. Of course they are proposing new projects. Spend more money to gather more data. This plan for a new version of the arcade experiment is going to be much bigger. It's going to have five hundred gallons of liquid helium which is going to allow to be even colder and say more sensitive. The elect more data. Maybe we can look for some variations. Be conceive it's a little bit stronger in one part of the sky somewhere else so that's one possibility that we could just sort of like get more resolution on the problem. That might give us a clue. We also have ground based instruments and now the air cbo's in the past unfortunately the soda more powerful radio telescope in the world is in green bank west. Virginia which is the beautiful instrument. You should google it and check this thing out. And he can make very precise measure of the skies in these radio frequencies again to look for patterns right because even the cosmic microwave background has patterns to it right and this parents are important because a huge amount of information encoded in those patterns. So we're just the very beginning of understanding this other map of the sky. What's in it and what it means. Cool all right so maybe expect more in the coming years but In the near future it's going to be a big mystery. You are bathed in mr. There's a huge source of radio. Waves is coming from all over space. And we don't know what it is now. We won't know for a little while yup until we hear more roar in the meantime universe. We hear you. We hear you roaring respect. You get may chill out a little bit. We're doing our best to figure out what is all about may. It's the universe inning. Bruce ceiling at us. Because we're being too noisy vergara. Maybe we should learn. Shut up too many podcasts. And on that note thanks for listening to this one. Thanks for joining us unix. Thanks for listening and remember that daniel jorges explain universities a production iheartradio for more podcasts from iheartradio. Visit the iheartradio app apple or work. Ever you listen to your favorite chips As you prepare to take to the skies again travel looks a little different now. 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Dr. Anthony Fauci 1-26-20
"Good Morning America. This is the catch roundtable drunk casualties here Sunday morning. What's going on in the world? Well we got a problem. We've got corona virus is spreading in China. I believe four cities now if not more and whether it's this morning is Dr Anthony Fauci who has served as the director of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institute of Health for thirty six years. How you Dr Thou she? How are you very well John Good to be with you? What do you tell the American people about what's going on? Should they be scared. I I don't think so. The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It's a very very low risk to the United States but it's something that we as public health officials need take very seriously. This is a virus that has emerged and jumped species from an animal reservoir It's a virus. Interestingly Corona the viruses in general 'cause common Kohl's about ten to twenty five percent of the common colds every season are Doodoo. You do relatively benign corona viruses. But what happened about eighteen years ago in two thousand and two was that a corona virus jump species species from a animal reservoir humans in China and started infecting people getting serious pulmonary disease. There were eight thousand cases in about seven hundred and seventy five death. That was SARS. You might remember. John was SARS outbreak severe acute respiratory syndrome and then in two thousand twelve. We had another another similar outbreak of another corona virus that jump species and Infected men in the Middle East and women in the Middle East and that was call all mayors of the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome and now for the third time we have a corona virus in China that apparently jumped species from some animal reservoir reservoir infected people and now we have an evolving situation of many cases that are now evolving more and more each day. But it's gone beyond on just this EPI Center in a city called Wuhan W. U. H. A. N. in central China but now it's people infected affected in other cities including Beijing Shanghai and Hong Kong and there's been now people who traveled from there and have gotten encyc- and places like Thailand Japan and South Korea. We know now there has been a case that has been in the United States. And that's someone who traveled to Wuhan came back without any symptoms develop symptoms and luckily the health with providers. We're alerted enough stupid enough to identify the person and isolate them and that person is now in isolation doing very well so evolving evolving situation. John of virus that has been essentially non existent in humans until it made this jump in China and now we we have on hands and outbreak. Having said that getting back to your first question. It isn't something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about because we have ways of preparing screening of people coming in and we have ways of responding like we did with this one case in Seattle Washington and who I traveled to China and bought back. The infection is antibiotics effective Towards no there is no treatment. It's a virus. John and the antibiotics are not effective against viruses. We don't have any effective antivirals and there's no vaccine but we are working on a vaccine right right now. We actually started it almost immediately upon getting the sequence of the virus and it'll be about guest three months or so before we can start testing. I think in phase one studies in humans. That doesn't mean we'll have a vaccine in three months that means that at least begin to start testing in preliminary testing in addition is in China because of all the live animals that are being sold. Yeah I think you hit the nail on the head I mean China You know among other countries has a lot of close interaction and contact between people particularly in crowded places and what they call wet whet markets where there are a lot of live animals that are being sold in this place. There was kind of I recognized near a fish market which had more than just fish there were birds and bats snakes and variety of other things in the market. But the your your your suggestion suggestion. John is really quite correct that it's the proximity between people the population of humans and animals. How's that could harbor these viruses were within jumps? Species infects the human and then humans insect each other. Now it in addition anything else you wanNA tell our listeners. Corona virus well accepted in evolving situation. You know every day we have to look at it very very carefully. It does not seem to be as efficient in the persistent Sustained transmission from human to human without a doubt it can spread from one human to another what it doesn't seem yet to be doing as efficiently certainly not like influenza which spreads very efficiently in a sustained way. This does not do so Which means that just like SARS? We have the possibility with good public health measures of hopefully getting control of it. I remember the first time we talked to outside outside the mosquitoes attacking in Florida. Have we beaked. Zeke is no longer a problem with Zeke problem that you and I spoke poke about a few years ago was mostly in South America and the Caribbean and interestingly As what happens in sometimes with vector-borne in this the case mosquito borne diseases there was a big blast of activity and then he kind of disappeared. There's there's some activity but very little activity now. Brazil who was the epicenter of Zeke outbreak. We had some spillover of cases into the United States in Florida particularly and some in Texas but mostly in Florida. That's no longer an issue right now. There's no Zeke. In the United States in this very little in South America understood. That's good news anything else as we want to tell the American public well no John Except that you know we often talk about emerging diseases and it's very interesting no one day chicken Gunja then Zico Rica. Then it's the Bola and now it's this new corona virus so we've just got make sure we're totally prepared that infectious diseases will continue to we merge on the human species and we've got to be essentially perpetually prepared and hopefully we'll get better and better at it so would you tell the American public that it if they travel in places like China that you have to be extra careful well actually as a matter of fact the State Department just came out with their alert alert saying that they shouldn't be traveling to China unless absolutely necessary. So they're they're they're really suggesting that people don't travel to want you want not the China in general. I mean China's a very big country but particularly for Luhan city. Which is the center of the State Department has an alert out? Wants you to be very careful about traveling not travel there. Thank you so much for your help. and Dr Anthony. FAUCI director of allergy she and Infectious Diseases of the National Institute of Health. You've saved many lives over your lifetime. I'm sure thanks a lot John. It's always good to be with you. Vacuum this is the cats roundtable. We'll be right back.
Trip to the viral epicenter of Wuhan
"When China correspondent Bill Birtles flew to the viral EPI center of Wuhan? Recently cameramen brand coming. We're a TAD anxious family family. Friends and colleagues begged them not to go but as it turned out the assignment took a dramatic turn upon arrival. Here's bill birtles. It's a Wednesday night right and I'm sitting at Beijing Airport with my colleague brand coming masks on an uneasiness pulsing threw me on the way to a city that almost everyone. Everyone wants to get away from the departure gate. Dozens were bucking the trend. These are Wuhan Rin Ako from the city who work or study in Beijing aging making the traditional pilgrimage. Home for Lunar New Year. They're all wearing masks SAMBA wearing respirators. And there's a stony silence as as we all watch passengers from the arriving flight from Wuhan Disembark. One woman being helped by her door looks frail distressed and very sick. Ah but her daughter's campus seems to suggest her mom might be a hypochondriac. Let's hope so. Because we're all getting on that plane to staff in protective gear. Go onto disinfect. The aircraft an ominous sign for sitting on the tarmac about the fly thinking of all the people who told me not to go while some international journalists went down many. I know said I simply want to others weren't allowed. The companies companies believed. It was too much of a risk but British video journalist. I was told he could guard down but he wasn't allowed to stay at night. All he could do was a maximum towels on the ground. That was the advice his company gave him but it was the view of much. Chinese colleagues friends really freaked me out. The viruses is much worse than the authorities. Say They told me some with hospital contacts in central China down the Wuhan said the virus is everywhere now. The official official numbers of why behind what Chinese called aide told me of Beijing TV crew. That went down. There returned to the capital early to end up in hospital hospital. How they doing asked I know he said it's those unknowns that shirt around in my head as the plight Tixx mm-hmm the two hours? We fly silence. Nearly everyone wears a mask a Spanish journalist a few rows ahead of me already. Has the medical blobs on As we descend I look out the window. And the city of ten million people below me and I ponder. How long are we going to die? We arrived to very empty at the airport by the time we get to the baggage carousel. It's almost midnight so I without the recorder and start doing interviews. I'd like to have something up for the morning and so I asked several people from the flight. If they were worried not really they all said and no had any of their friends family and Wuhan They N- affected. That's reassuring assuring I thought and then when we emerged into the arrivals hall we will buy driver. Mr Pong must be one of the only people in Wuhan at least at the airport who was not wearing a face mask. That's not reassuring bear in mind. I've got it in my head from Chinese friends that the virus is everywhere by now in Wuhan. I'm Han but Mr Pong tells meat. He's not scared. Although I do ask him to. Put a mask on for our trip in the car they pull the old trick. You're never supposed to do as a journalist list interview your driver. It's past midnight now and I'm trying to get some color in local voice for me on the mornings. Im Package so. I asked Mr You know anyone who has the virus thousands Trumka Connecticut's our team. Oh yes he tells me. A friend of mine is in the hospital with it. Geez how's he doing not too bad. I spoke to him the other day on the phone says he's feeling better but they weren't release him yet. uh-huh I asked. Does he know he's got it. Yeah he thinks he might have got while playing mah-jongg reckons the air in the room with staffy and there were a lot of people in there so then I ask if he's friend ever been to that seafood and animal market that had been identified as the initial source of the new virus. Hey you works the runs a business there. Mr Puntal me right okay. Well they guy we drive past one of the major hospitals and I pondered the people inside aside who must be suffering terribly from the virus I thought about the nurses and doctors cladding hazmat protective gear. How anxious they must be by this age already? One doctor had died. We thought briefly about stopping me the hospital to see if there was anyone outside to talk to but it's twelve thirty thirty in the morning at this stage and it's freezing so let's come back in the morning and do it properly. I thought so we get to our hotel a massive empty lobby and we do the mandatory temperature chicks before entering and a friendly young woman at reception tells us. The hotel is very quiet at the moment. Which means we get an upgrade? So I'm sitting in a palatial room by one. AM ingesting my interviews. With Mr Peng others hoping I can smash out a three minute pays for. Am on the ground and still sneak in in a few hours sleep a monitoring updates online as I translate the interview in the story and just as on finishing the it had about two thirty. AM and sending off to Sydney. My twitter feed lights up. The Wuhan government has just announced that will lock down the city at ten. Am All flights. All trains in in and out of Wuhan will be suspended. Shit right okay. So what do we do in in our pre-departure safety chat with ABC headquarters. We discussed what we would do. If they locked down the city we would be stuck so we would keep filing until we could find a way out but this is different. They're giving us time to get out before they lock it down seems to me. They deliberately announced that at two thirty. Eddie I am so most Wuhan residents would miss it and they wouldn't be a mad scramble to get out and I decided not to fall for I am. I would have missed it too. So now I'm pondering my options. They're definitely going to lock it down for a while but just how long a few days a few weeks longer. We could be stuck here for months and if it's as bad as everyone says that is plenty of time for us to be exposed to the virus while we're here so I made the call. We better get out to many announce so I scrambled for a flat out before ten. I am an amazingly despite the day before Lunar New Year. I was able to get tickets not to Beijing. They're all sold out but to Shanghai. I spoke to the desk in Sydney. who also thought airing on the side of caution seem sensible and then? I woke up brand. Who was asleep in the room next to me? Completely Unaware. Of all this now Brent came to China after a stint in the middle ace so he's instinct was a little different. Why are we leaving the biggest story in the world he asked he's used to going into places that others fleeing and that's as he said where the stories are so I- hesitated once more a check checked with a mate from CNN? Had also come down to Wuhan. He told me he was being pulled out by his head office as a friend from Sky News TV in the UK Heck we bet ago so I woke up the driver got him to come back and we made the long drive back to Wuhan Airport at four thirty I am. Luckily we will early and we actually had time to interview people people at the airport even to live cross to everyone. We spoke to were wearing masks but they told me they weren't. That worried. Few People Samed would tell me at least on camera that they were concerned but their faces told otherwise especially those parents with small kids and there is a stock extended patriotic cancer. That many particularly young people tell me when the cameras are rolling. But I suspect it's a bit different if you have more time off camera to talk to people. I'm sure our country is strong and can handle. This is what you tend to hear but people do remember SARS in two thousand and three and the disastrous way in which local local and then higher level officials. He'd the extent of the outbreak. Hundreds of people died as departed for Shanghai. Everyone on board had a mask including the hostesses. No one talked on the plane. It was just eerie the day before Lunar New Year is supposed to be festive at time for families is to reunite or travel together. We landed and along with those families with small. Children was scanned by teams in white biohazard gear. We we hadn't slept at all. I needed to find a coffee shop with WIFI to foul stories because this was the biggest story but the shops didn't have any power points points for my dying laptops. So brand is sat on baggage trolleys on the ground in the Shanghai terminal plugged into a wall socket and spent the afternoon writing recording going outside to do TV and eventually retreating to an airport hotel. We're now in Beijing still with an incubation period. But with feeling good a few days ago I message Mr Peng to ask how his maiden hospital was going. I wanted to know if I could interview him down the phone. He what it's like to have corona virus to be traded in a Wuhan Hospital. Mr Pong got back to me and he said Yeah Yeah. He's happy to talk. But he's a businessman so he wants five hundred yuan that's about one hundred bucks. We didn't pie but it sounds like Mr. It depends friend is now recovering. Well finally a bit of good news. This is bill birtles in Beijing for Correspondence report and very glad to hear that bill birtles is still in good health and I hope that is laptop. Batteries well charged as well.
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Cristyne Nicholas 5-31-20
"Did you know that there is still time to start at Montclair State University this fall Montclair St stands apart from and above other New Jersey universities? We're a place that pulse students in and lifts them up. Join a supportive community. That welcomes your voice. Montclair state is home to students of all backgrounds beliefs and identities reflecting the world around us to apply Montclair state and start this fall takes. Msu Two four seven four seven four seven that's Msu two four seven four seven four seven. Good Morning New York. This is the catch roundtable. Well when is New York and open up with this morning Christine Nicholas? She's been in the city will her life just about. She helped the Mayor Giuliani when he was mayor for eight years and she was in charge of NYC company and now she CEO of Nicholas Nuance Communications and also the theatre. District runs the Chamber of Commerce of Pita district Christie Nicholas. I leave anything out. I'm sure I did John. Now just Wanted to Belichick you. Good to be with you. Tell us about New York. People a re the worried you know the not traffic be opening up but New York is a different place. It's got movies liquor sector. Got Subways War. Tally your house. What you think. Well the unfortunate thing is New Yorkers also the EPI Center for Cova We have more cases. We have more deaths more hospitalization than any other city in the world. So I can understand that it is definitely taking slower for New York City to open. But at this point when you sue that almost at all of the The statistics the governor's re requiring will low on hospitalization and we have fewer guests. Luckily I think we really to start opening up and there are certain businesses that could have been opened by now in my view for example. You look at golf courses. You Know Look I. I know that that's not going to be a huge economic impact. But it's it's a start and a lot of businesses rely on the golf courses. In fact we are sitting. Not many people know this happening be married to golf writer so much so. Fourteen York City courses and they're all closed yet in New Jersey and Connecticut and in Westchester. The golf courses are opened in two thousand nineteen. They had almost half a million round. So you know this is a pretty big industry and it could jump start. You know small businesses. I also think the beaches should be opened. There was so much confusion with whether you're opening is closing the beaches you know. The governor his articulated that this should be regional and when we talk about opening up speeches in Long Island and in New Jersey. You really need to also consider opening the beaches in New York City because it just created so much confusion and also a you know they locked out because it was a cool memorial day weekend cool this weekend but when it gets hot market would have stormed. The beaches Pristine Arctic beaches. I don't understand why the health state is open and we see excluding New York City and I always said to. Sunshine is good. It kills the virus. The ultraviolet rays in sunshine kills the virus and outdoor which is another point outdoor dining. We could be doing that. They've been doing it in Connecticut now for over a week and it has been successful there. No reason for us not to be doing that now. Now you can't just say open up and all of a sudden these restaurants are gonna be able to put chairs and tables outside. There's gotta be a little bit more to it. You have to face it you have to come up with. schematic and and rendering to make sure that you know there is a distance you know. Make sure that staff is when they're hired that they need to be taught about wearing masks so morning at properly or drives me crazy. A senior people wearing masks on their chin. You know. It's not a Chinstrap math over your mouth and nose to be effective but restaurants should be open. Outdoor shopping should be open. Now you know you look at places like Arthur Avenue. They never close because each one of those shops. They're selling the essential outdoor each store. You can go in and out. And and they made sure that they never had more than four or five people they were waiting for the city for those guidelines. They did it themselves because they knew you needed to space out. They will wearing masks. They took the initiative on their own. And guess what they've been hanging on you can have a place like NPR outlet which is a was a brand new was opened last. May Mall outdoor or mall in Staten Island. Right over the ferry. They should be able to open now. We gotta get the economy back. Running or New York is really going to be willing years and years to come on. This Pristine Nicholas. I think every New Yorker agrees with you. One hundred percent. The other big controversy There's a Everybody says that kids are not affected by the virus. Let's open up our schools and we had. We haven't opened up the schools yet officially. Yes and what are the university's deal? We've got great universities. We have Columbia. Nyu For them. What do you tell? The governor was up at Iona. And you're shell on Friday and he announced that I own or will be opening. They'll be opening early well on August tenth really interesting positive staff. Look I think. Once the schools were closed it would have been very difficult for them to get reopened. Especially now that we're you know there's two weeks left to school so you can't really open. I my kids to school. Hopefully enough of an opportunity to know how to Stinson. Space and and maybe come up with some creative alternatives. Whether it's you know he he split the great up by a and B and a comes Monday Tuesday or Monday Wednesday Friday and become Tuesday third Thursday and then they alternate it. There's gotta be a way around. In case covert comes back even stronger on so that you don't just dropped and and have all of the school kids home. It really doesn't work. Distance learning been struggle. I know on the mother a of eleven years eleven year old twins and fourteen hill daughter. It works for two of the kids. One is desperately struggling and I see you know. He had an a average going into this and now he is struggling because some kids just aren't equipped for this is learning online. Stand stay at home. Learning is not yet and it's GonNa hurt kids right. They often thorough back. You'll continue to give us updates from time to time. And I New Yorkers appreciate. I will happen that this is the catch roundtable. Be Right back.
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani 4-19-20
"Good Morning America. This is the cats roundtable truncates Matisse here Sunday morning well I. He was America's mayor then it became the president's Moyer and now he is loved to enjoy being a talk show host on WABC radio. We a is America's mayor Rudy Giuliani. Good Morning Mr Mayor. Good Morning John How are you? I'm well I'm well you know it's becoming Mr Mayor. It's becoming a parent that and it's All over the place that when China shut down they shut down all their flights for Wuhan to all the domestic cities in China they allowed to national flights to go and older and the reason for the problem in New York is we have John F. Kennedy Airport. We have after January twenty first after January twenty first when he stopped the domestic Chinese flights three flights a day or two flights a day with coming in from WHO on to JFK airport. And that's why that is. Why New York is become the EPI center because we received all those flights and the Chinese do what they were doing. What shall we going course? They knew what they were doing this. There's no question now that this virus escaped from that laboratory however we got out. They knew they've been working on it for four or five years but it was an exceedingly dangerous virus that it had properties that made it almost akin to cancer. The cancer show knowing that they protected themselves cutting down flights in China and they sent over a million people around the world. The million five almost like ambassador is carrying the disease. What's wrong with them John but they they have no conscience. No it's really tragedy. This is directly caused by the Chinese Communist and by the choices they made. Almost all of it could have been avoided. John what tolerable are. I mean every every country in the world is effective every single touches some terribly affected us in Italy and Spain and some marginally but still the whole world is kind of shut down for three weeks because of that wealthy we look at what happened to the world economy. The world economy is a mess. I mean have you ever think you'd live in see twenty seven days of no business in New York? I mean what's in a while I drive around and I I every time I do. I think I'm in some kind of science fiction movie. I don't think anybody would would have made a movie like that now. Mr Mayor the World Health Organization. Now these people lied. We're funding them. Almost a billion dollars a year China's only funding ten percent of that and these people have lied and deceived everybody in the whole world. This guy that that's been a liar. Shouldn't he be brought up on charges in a world class? What as as of course he is in the pocket of China he did. Everything signed a wanted. You know in a certain way. If the World Health Organization hadn't endorsed with China was saying they might be more skepticism. I mean people really don't trust China but then when they heal the world health organization my goodness that sounds like a legitimate organization so his endorsement really make something and what it meant. Was You were taken and people that was spreading a deadly disease in your country. How this person's not even a doctor. You know in some kind of a Political Act Question. There are questions about prior corruption in his career. And he's very tight with the Chinese communists and seems to hate America. What what what a choice. The head of the World Health Organization and we were paying world out though this action. I understand the last cycle. We paid eight hundred and eighty million dollars. Four hundred and China was paying like forty million eighty million or something like that something like that about eighty million but but they were controlling the place. John US AMERICANS US Americans. Hickey used to and I think Bill Gates is guilty of that because he couldn't believe the guy's looking at him in the face right in the eyes and directly lied to him while we have not used to be like two straight to the face. You know John. I can't tell you how often over the last thirty years and particularly during the campaign of two thousand sixteen I heard Donald Trump. Save these things and you know. A lot of his critics wouldn't believe about how terrible the world trade organizations were about anti-american they were. How the deals that we make a stupid and dumb and he was talking about not just democratic presidents talking about Republican presidents very naive. You know. We're lucky that we have a businessman who has a healthy skepticism and push America. I I think a lot of the prior people representing US wanted to be popular in the world. You know the world was more important than America. I think what trump has done is reverse it to we want to be good to the world but the first thing is GonNa be good you are. It's like a family. I got to take care of your family right. John Take Care of you. You don't get around and actually read. But what's the what's the creed at West Point love of family Love of country out. It has to start with your your children. Your your wife's You brothers and sisters and then everybody else but you gotta take care of them. I and I think trump has established that priority for for us and thank God. Because I don't know where we would be if we'd had an Obama in the White House. Imagine where we'd be sitting in his basement run on this by. Don't have the last thirty days. He's he's one of the president out of his basement that it's so hard to believe that. I don't think they have the courage to stand up against these. These people and that the American people have to realize leadership is what counts and crump? He's got a lousy personality. If you didn't have both personality you're not going to vote with the son of a gun. He cares about American his right America works to be Huckabee puts it best Huckabee says. Look I'm having a heart attack and I'm dying and they bring to doctors right away and they say. This doctor has best bedside manner in the country. This other doctor is a miserable son of horrible guy. Terrible guy but he's the greatest heart surgeon in the world. Which one do you pick? I picked the greatest heart surgeon of the world. But this is all subjective. Anyway I mean you you and I both know Donald Trump before he was president because they're perfectly fine guy. He's good he's just has it. You have New York personality okay. That used to it. He gets results now. Next project is to reopen up our our cities in all states and I I heard a statement that this twenty nine states that a reasonably ready to be opened up and I think I think president trump the right thing and saying he's GonNa leave it up to the governor's otherwise they're going to blame him on everything. So Muslim lifted up governors. Some of the other Democratic governor said the guidelines. Good died lines. They were helpful. But Pelosi you know policy doesn't like like anything he does. I mean it's it's it's amazing and you know did you see that. Pelosi took down her tweet encouraging people to violate trump's travel ban to China took it down. She took it off her social media. I mean it's kind of like Hillary Clinton getting rid of her emails. What else would you like to tell the American public? You GotTa join your new position a new position at WABC. And you're gotta be walking running a message across all Americans. I feel good about that. You know we have people we have people calling us from Texas and Trump Oklahoma from California from just about every place and what bar famous through common sense will uncover the truth and get to a solution and it seems to me. People responded to that and I thank you very much for putting me on because it gives me a chance to contribute at a time in which my city is going through crisis similar to the one that I helped lead it through on September eleventh and I see Georgiana to Georgia and Iran together attacking. He's another guy has an awful lot that it's very valuable here and he really knows what you're doing a crisis. Cuomo's done a good job because he owes than non on the president's magnificent check so we're lucky in that sense we've got a minute left. Tell Americans yeah I wanNA tell them to be hopeful? We're GONNA come out of this remember. We didn't think we come out. As of December eleven we came out I was. I was waiting to the tally. Bond to come down Broadway. Everybody would see the first plane we saw. We thought it was gonNA building what dot over. We'd be stronger. There's twice as many people live. Downtown now is before we're going to be stronger. We're GONNA have better health regulations. We're GONNA better hygiene and we're gonNA realize these people can't just feed us. China is no match for us no match. There's still a third world country and and petty vicious dictatorship. Mr Man. Thank you for everything you do everything you did for New York and everything you do for all America and thank you for providing toilet tissue. I WANNA get into that okay. Toilet tissue all right. Thank you Mr Mayo. We'll catch up again to soon get. This is the gets cats without papal. Be Right back.
Montreal Mayor Valrie Plantes new graphic novel charts uphill battle for women in politics
"The theaters have closed. But the show look on play me. Podcast is thrilled to present a new series. The show must go on featuring provocative productions from some of north. America's most acclaimed creators for the stage. Sit back and experience. Everything from chilling thrillers to gut wrenching dramas to a river in comedies each month experience the exhilaration of theater from the comfort of your own home. Plenty available wherever you get your podcasts. This is a cbc podcast during the course of this campaign. I had one goal in mind. I wanted to put montrealers i. I'm not going to change that. A lot of montreal is were ecstatic when on the fifth of november. Two thousand seventeen valerie. Plant a newcomer to city hall won the mayoral race in that city. Three years into her term. That sense of euphoria seems gone. Her city has been one of the hardest hit during the pandemic grappling with both the health and economic devastation. It's brought canadians. Want to get an idea of valerie. Plant is well. She's written a new graphic novel. Co written it in the book is called okay universe chronicles of a woman in politics. Mayor valery plants joins me now from montreal. mayor plants. good morning. Good morning wanna talk about your book. And just a moment. But i have to start with what's going on in your city right now. You are as i mentioned in the midst of this dual health and economic crisis. What did you see. Your role was as the magnitude of this disaster. Became clear i for me was It was clear that This pandemic was new for everyone even for the mayor and so what i decided to do was to make sure that no one would be left behind. That means that any type of measures. Whatever it's regarding health or housing we'd be would be there to complement the government's efforts during the first wave we did learn a lot but as an example i did put a lot of energy and making sure that people living in homelessness when be left alone because of course it did hit them and the most vulnerable worst. We have seen a rising cases across this country. I'm you mentioned. The first wave. Quebec is not doing much better than ontario. When it comes to this second wave why is it that you leaders in your province haven't been able to get the numbers under control well. This is a big question You know. I the first way there was some explanation that came of you know why it was difficult combat in quebec to contain the virus and and much all got hit very hard during the first wave and this time around. It seems like even though all the efforts been put together there. There's it's a. I wouldn't say out of control but numbers are getting higher and higher montreal was on the plateau for a very long time and it was very happy with that. Of course it now and we're seeing like you said and i'm tearing other provinces like it's it it it's hard to contain so the reasons are multiple but at this point and especially with the holiday coming. I'm definitely inviting montrealers. But of course all canadians to really respect the The the public health Rules because this is a team after we need to know. Put our our side or personal interest. As i say so we can do. Go go through together. We'll you mentioned those rules. I mean in just a few days your city as well as the rest of the province are going to be under some pretty strict lockdown conditions. Some of the strictest in canada. This runs from christmas through the eleventh of january. Maybe even longer. How do you expect your public to deal with that. Well the fact that much all got hit so hard during the first way we were the epi center of the pandemic. And that's not a title that i'm proud of but this is what happened and actually tell them. Five hundred people died just in montreal but just huge because of the covid so people know and We know how much you know. People have less family members how hard it is for the people employees the health system so You know we've shown a lot of resilience and courage. And i do expect that people will do the same and for the city. We're trying to maybe outside the outdoor You know accessible to everyone. We're trying to make it easier for people to go for walks and maybe enjoy skiing and kidding yeah here and there we've made a all the material free for under eighteen just to encourage people to know take a breed even though it's winter because It's gonna be a tough winter. I was in montreal in september. And i mean it's one of the great cities in this country and usually just choked with tourists shocked at how empty the city was. And this is something. That's being replicated across canada where tourists traveling People are working from home. You mentioned the homelessness crisis. That has been exacerbated. People aren't writing public transit. What do you think the future of a city like yours is post pandemic. Well it it it. It's it's going to have an impact. Anders already reflection we've started about. What do we do to downtown areas and this reflection. I'm doing it also with the mayors of the big cities in canada which is very helpful. Because we're all going through similar experience before montreal You know of course. We're hoping that the the vaccine will help. But definitely i think it's going to change how also we Interact with each other in a way that you know we we go. We will confused traveling. Come to montreal for festivals and the vibrant cultural fien. but i think also We might Go for smaller events in different neighbor neighborhood. Sorry it might be. I'm really. I'm thinking about how to make Our city of course as welcoming as before but of course we will have to adapt it. And maybe it's just spread the joy to the entire city instead of just focusing on one area which is a downtown core. Something like this challenge like this. I mean i'm sure you could not have possibly imagined when you ran. Not even for mayor but for council. This is the story. That's told in this graphic novel. Why did you want to tell the story now Well to be honest. I thought it to write and draw. I don't right. I don't draw so well. That's why has been tested trader. That i worked with but i ninety two right anecdotes when i entered politics in twenty thirteen and i never stopped kind of a way for me to get things out of my head and so I finished writing this book Last december so it's been a year and And at this and i decided to launch it now because more than ever people are looking for. I think we need a bit of. We need to look at inspiring stories. and reading is a great activity. That's for sure. I would depend that makes so I'm probably this out. But i mean simone is a bit of my alter ego then a main character but he's not exactly me as well. Simone faces a lot of sexism In her run for council and this is something that you have talked about as well tell me about what you faced and how you reacted to it because your reaction is part of the story in the book as well right You know. I think the book is is a way to talk about double standard or kenneth. I call ordinary sexist sexism. I think we're not in a time. Where today somebody a man or woman would turn to woman saying. Oh you're not You're woman enough not qualified enough or go back to your kitchen. We're not there anymore right. But it's more like how as as men and women in the in in a society sometime continues to carry on some Stereotypes or some little things. Maybe some words looks comments Way we apprehend a certain situation. Whatever depending on your gender. So i wanted to bring it in in in software. It's not a. It's not a place in this book. Where i'm like Can save area I mean th th the message are there. But i wanted to bring them softly because again everybody can carry those stereo types of door biases without even knowing them. How did you react when when you were facing that abuse. Because in in the story simone says i shouldn't you know this this shouldn't get let it does right in the public figure and so people are going to say things but there's something about these attacks that that that really stick with you. Yeah to be honest. I mean now that i'm mayor. I mean It is hard. I cannot deny we'd be lie to say that to know in the in the it never bothers the of course not because sometimes when when you feel. There's a double standard it's some. It's not something that. I can say out loud because as a woman. There's always this possibility that some people will say. Oh she's playing the victim now or not true where people feel attack. When you share some of the things that you're you're you're experiencing so it is not an easy one at the same time. I feel like in a very replace as mayor as the first woman mayor of montreal to call out some some of the things even in my surroundings because and and to just address to a book like that or through Kino's that i will be doing. I do have the space and the opportunity to change things. But i wanna to do it in that like i said in a when i say gentle. It's very it's very. I wanna raise awareness. Put it this way. And this is why a graphic novel from his perfect because it is accessible. It's it can be fun. There can be silenced in the graphic novel he can just Can be poetry. So this is this is why i like the vehicle for this For this story so much of the story is about gaining the trust of the city and earning the trust. What happens when you lose that trust. There was a poll that found that six hundred ten montrealers said they wouldn't vote for you in the next election. So what happens when you lose that. Trust so to be honest like this specific full. Do i always kind of you know. Of course i take him consideration poles but this one was done by internet with four hundred people. So i i don't want to minimize but it's important not to take it as a as a an overall of my a of being mayor but of course it hurts and you you question yourself. I question myself a lot. I question myself all the time. Because i took that position with a lot of humility. And you want much want people to to like you. You definitely want people to be proud of their mayor and and their city and this is where there's a thin there is a balanced define and it's not always easy because i'm taking measures that may not be popular but at the same time i'm doing it for montrealers now in the future so everything related to climate change. Those are things that you know kind of can can be difficult our day to day life as citizens but at the same time as we. If we look ahead we need to make some of those changes so it is not an easy one but I i always keep my. I have very strong values integrity. And i i stick to that. What have you learned through that process. I think of. I mean one of your biggest supporters in twenty. Seventeen was the montreal chef. David mcmillan this year. He said that your government is authoritarian. because of what. He calls an activist agenda. Putting in bike lanes removing parking spaces. And what have you learned through through a process like that well. One thing i've learned is some people that my like you. One day may hate you the day after mr macmillan which i do not understand his position all through the years keeps it sense. It's going from one way to another. So i'm but so mr mcmellon i'll just leave it for the rest. Of course it's a You need to adapt and at the same time again. I know that if i look at every individual some people say i love madam tom for this but i don't like her. I like her for this. I don't like for that you. May i make decisions. I make decision and some of them may not be popular but again Most of the time and actually all the time. There is What i rely on when i make decision is very like i said strong values and I don't. I don't come up with project that out of nowhere i got elected. I said i would work on environment on economic development on housing and on mobility. So i stick to the plan and yes. Some people don't like that. But i'm sticking to the plants that just before i let you go the title of the book okay. Universe comes from sitting at the end of the dock. And you're kind of asking the universe for a challenge. What is your next challenge. Well i'm definitely running for the the next meryl campaign with which is next year. So that's gonna be a big challenge. Because i never take things for granted never never and I wanted like. I said. I'm more montreal to be proud and to be honest right now the the kinda short term challenges to Bring back the economy here in montreal here in quebec in canada and i think we're all facing the same thing but it is my responsibility as mayor to make sure that the city is a coup a good place to invest and that there will be jobs being created so it's working with the entire ecosystem so baked job but i'm upset the challenge. Politics get to speak with you again. I appreciate your time this morning. Yes have a great holiday. thank you much valerie. 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How your brain responds to stories -- and why they're crucial for leaders | Karen Eber
"You're listening to ted talks daily. I'm your host at least hyun. Today's talk is about the power of storytelling leadership consultant. Karen either makes a convincing case. That data doesn't change behavior our emotions too and the power of story can activate the ill good connective emotional parts of our brains. That can really move people her tax. Purdue you talk is so helpful if you want to be persuasive and tell stronger stories to make change. Tej daily is supported by ti mt. I'd like to pause for a second to talk to you about c. I n t is a global digital solutions partner for some of the world's biggest company for over twenty five years they've been committed to helping business leaders drive growth and innovation but more than that they're focused on creating purpose digital solutions that make tomorrow a better place for all for more information on c. I n. t visit. Www dot make their tomorrow dot com. Maria walked into the elevator at work. She went to press the button when her phone fell out of her hand. It bounced on the floor and went straight down that little opening between the elevator in the floor and she realized it wasn't just her phone. It was a phone wallet that had her driver's license her credit card her whole life. She went to the front desk to talk to ray. The security guard. Ray was really happy to see air. Marie is the one of the few people that actually stocks and says hello to him each day in fact she's one of these people that knows your birthday and your favorite food and your last vacation. Not because she's weird she just genuinely likes people like some to feel seen she tells ray what happened and he said it's going to cost at least five hundred dollars to get her phone back and he goes to get a quote while she goes back to her desk twenty minutes later he calls her and he says maria i was looking at the inspection certificate elevator. It's actually do for its annual inspection next month. I'm going to go ahead and call that in today and won't be able to get your phone back in. I won't cost you anything the same day this happened. I read an article about the. Ceo of charles schwab while turbine injure he's describing his straight a career at university going into his last exam expecting ace it when the professor gives one question. What is the name of the person that cleans this room. And he failed the exam. He had seen her but he had never met her before. Her name was dottie. And he made a vow that day to always know the dadis in his life. Because both walter and maria understand this power of helping people feel seen especially as a leader. I use that story back. When i worked at general electric. I was responsible for shaping culture and a business of ninety thousand employees in one hundred fifty countries and i found that stories. Were such a great way to connect with people and have them think. What would i do in this situation. would i have known dotty or who are the dadis. I need to know in my life. I found that no matter. People's gender or their generation or their geography in the world the stories resonated and worked but in my work with leaders. I have also found. They tend be allergic to telling stories. They're not sure where to find them or they're not sure how to tell them or are they think they have to present data that there's just not room tell story and that's why i want to focus today because storytelling data is actually not this either or it's an an actually create this power that connects you to information differently to understand how we have to. I understand what happens. Neurologically when you're listening to a story and data so as you're a lecture or you're in a meeting to small parts of your brain are activated. We're an again broke his area. This is where you're processing information and it's also why you tend to forget fifty percent of it right after you hear it when you listen to a story. Your entire brain starts to light up each of your lobes will light up as your senses and your emotions are engaged as i talk about a phone falling and hitting the ground with thaad your in your temporal lobes are lighting up as though you're seeing that fall phone and hearing it hit with the side. There's this term neural coupling which says as the listener your brain will light up exactly as mine is the storyteller. It mir's this activity as though you are actually experiencing these things. Storytelling gives you this artificial reality if i talk to you about like walking through the snow and with each step. The snow is crunching under my shoes. And big wet flakes are falling on my cheeks. Your brains are now lighting up as though you are walking through the snow and experiencing these things it's why you can sit in an action movie and not be moving but your heart is racing though. You're the star on screen because this neuro a coupling has your brain lighting up. Though you were having that activity as you listened to stories you automatically gain empathy for the storyteller the more empathy. You experience the more oxytocin is released in your brain. Oxytocin is the feel good chemical and the more oxytocin. You have the more trustworthy you actually view the speaker this is my storytelling et cetera. Critical skill for a leader. Because the very act of telling a story makes people trust you more as you begin to listen to data some different things happen. There's some misconceptions to understand. The first is that data doesn't change our behavior emotions too if data teams behavior. We would all sleep eight hours and exercising floss daily and drink eight glasses of water. But that's not how we actually decide. Neuroscientist studied decision making and it starts in our delay. This is our emotional epi center where we have the ability to experience emotions. And it's here at a level where we begin to decide. We make choices to pursue pleasure or to avoid risk all before we become aware of it. At the point we become aware where it comes to the conscious level. We start to apply rationalization and logic which is why we think we're making these rationally based decisions not realizing that they were already decided in our subconscious. Antonio damasio is a neuroscientist that started to study patients. That had damaged magdala fully-functioning in every way except they could not experience emotions and as a result they could not make decisions. Something as simple. As do i go this way or this way. They're incapable of doing because they could not experience. These were people that were wildly successful before they had the damage. Sarah mink della. And now they couldn't complete any of their projects and their careers took big hits all because they experience emotions where we decide. Another data misconception data never speaks for itself our brains love to anticipate and as we anticipate we fill in the gaps on what we're seeing or hearing with our own knowledge and experience and our own bias which means my understanding data's going to differ from yours because we're all going to have our own interpretation if there isn't a way to guide us through now suggests that data's bad in stories good they both play a key role and understand how you have to see what makes a great story. It's going to answer three questions. The first is what is the context. Meaning the setting. who's involved. Why should i even care. What is the conflict. Where's that moment where everything changes. And what is the outcome. Where is it different. What is the takeaway. A good story also has three attributes. The first being it is going to build and release tension so because our brains love to anticipate a great story builds tension by making. You wonder. is she going with this. What's happening next rate. A good story keeps you keeps your attention going and it releases by sharing something unexpected and does this over and over throughout the story a great story also build an idea it helps you see something that you can no longer unsee leaving you change. Because stories actually do leave you changed. And a great story communicates value stanford has done research on one of the best ways to shape organizational culture and it is storytelling. Because it's going to demonstrate what you value and encourage or what you don't value and what you discourage as you start to write your power and most people want to start with the data they wanna dig in because we often have piles of data but there's a common mystique we make when we do that or is working with the ceo. She came to me to prepare for her annual companywide meeting and she had forty five slides of data for a forty five minute presentation a recipe for a boring unmemorable talk and this is what most people do. They come armed with all of this data and they try to sort through without a big picture and then they lose their way. We actually put the data aside. And i asked her. What's the problem you're trying to solve. What do you want people to think. And feel different. And what do you want people to do different at the end of this. That is where you start dating story telling you come up with this framework to guide the way through both the story. And the data in her case. She wants her company to be able to break into new markets to remain competitive. She ended up telling a story about her daughter. Who's a gymnast who's competing for a scholarship and she had to learn new routines with increasing difficulty to be competitive. This is one of your choices. Do you tell a story about the data itself. Or do you tell a parallel story where you pull out points from the story to reinforce the data is you begin this ballot this melody and harmony of data in storytelling. Come together in a way that will stay with you. Long after brianna was a college adviser and she was asked to present to her university leadership when she realized that a large population of their students with autism were not graduating. She came to me because her leaders kept saying present. The data focused on the data but she felt like university officials already had the data. She was trying to figure out how to help them. Connect with it so we work together to help her. Tell the story about michelle. Michelle was a straight a. student in high school. Who had these dreams of going to university. Michelle was also a student with autism. Who is terrified about how she would be able to navigate the changes of university. Her worst fears came shoe in her first phone. Call with her adviser when he asked her questions. Like where do you see yourself in five years. And what are your career aspirations questions. That are hard for anybody. But for a person with autism to have to respond to verbally paralyzing. She got off. The phone was ready to drop out until her parents sat down with her and helped to write an email to her adviser. She told him that she was a student with autism was really hard for her to share because she felt like there was a stigma associated just by sharing that. She told him that she preferred to communicate in writing. If he could send her questions in advance she would be able to send replies back to him before they got on the phone to have a different conversation. He followed her lead and within a few weeks. They've found all of these things they have in common like a love for japanese anime after three semesters michelle is a straight a. Student thriving in the university at this point. Brianna starts to share some of the data that than twenty percent of the students with autism are graduating. And it's not because they can't handle the coursework is because they can't figure out how to navigate the university. The very thing in adviser is supposed to be able to help you do that over the course of a lifetime. Earning potential of someone in with a college degree over a high school degree is a million dollars. Which is a big amount but for a person with autism that wants to be able to live independent from their family. It's life changing. She closed with. We say our whole passion and purpose is to help people be their best to help them be successful. But we're hardly giving our best service by applying. This one size fits all approach and just letting people fall through the cracks. We can and we should do better. They're more michelle's out there. And i know because michelle is my daughter in that moment the jaws and the room and wiped away tears because she had done it she had connected them to information. She helped them see something. They couldn't unsee. Could she have done that with data alone. Maybe but the thing is they already have the data. They didn't have a reason not overlook the data this time that is the power of storytelling and data did together. They come together in this way. Build ideas to help you see things. You can't unsee to help communicate what's valued and to help tap into that emotional way that we all decide as you are. Move forward shaping. The passion and purpose of others as leaders don't just use data use stories in. Don't wait for the perfect story. Take your stories and make it perfect. Thank you ted. Talks daily is hosted by me. At least hugh and produced by ted. The music is from allison. Leyton brown in our mixer is christopher vesey's bogan we record the talks ted events we host or from ted ex events which are organized independently by volunteers. All over the world. And we'd love to hear from you. Leave us a review on apple podcasts. Or email us at podcasts. At ted dot com.
active CEO Podcast #119 PASSION Influence From The Heart
"Healthy C.. Pizzas, latest discover the energy to perform exceptional brilliance and positively impact the lives of those around them. Be Inspired by world leaders, game changing influences, and next level. Gary's these these the active see our podcast whether the ordinary daren't belong. and. Now you'll highest see R. and founder of energy to perform international speaker and Ladyship performance coach Craig John's. KYOTA and hiome. Craig Johnson Welcome to episode one, one, nine of the active CEO podcast. We're decoding the nick. Sigmon, of breaking the code. Tonight we're talking about. Passion. Influence from the heart. You're be that calming influence and emotional epicenter for the people you work with. Because when it comes from your heart your. Generally authentic in the way you lead. If you look at the definition of epicenter. It is a point. Directly. Above the true centre of Disturbance from which the shockwaves of an earthquake apparently radiate. Being that emotional. Epicenter. We are the true hot of the people we work with. The true hot. It's important that we have genuine authenticity. In who we are as a person and the way. We lead. Now what's really interesting is. If you look at leaders during crisis in chaos. The truly stand up. Because crisis and chaos always reveals character. So that's to who this dive in here around what influencing from the hottest. Someone who influences from the hot shows the way. They lead by example, they sit the standard. Their role. Model of behavior. They, create a shared vision. A. Vision that everyone has the opportunity to buy into collectively agree on. Now. That can be a challenge when you have new employees joining. Through wise words. You can ensure that they feel part of the vision. And you need to do that by connecting. The hot and so of the organization with the heart and soul of the individual who's being employed. Alita who influences from the hot? Ensures that the the? Team or community organizational company is continually evolving. Stand for how things have always been done around here. They break it. Encourage it to encourage growth. Elite who influences from the encourages involvement and action from everyone involved in that team or company. And most importantly. A leader who influences from the hot. Touches the hearts. Of the people they work with. The get connected with. Life outside. Of the workplace they get connected with. What is the passion of the people I work with? They get connected with the purpose. Of what people enjoy doing in how they WANNA, make a difference. It's important that. Leaders, who influence from the, hot. Believe that the actions have purpose in the world that they are making a difference, they providing value. And not jest revenue. It's important that you appreciate the work that people do not just appreciate. You need to show that appreciation. When people connect. He'll feel valued. You'll feel respected. When your knowledge appreciate. It's important that you threaten environment. That allows each individual to be fully valued and inspired. So as a leader. You. Who influences from the hot? It's important that you shoot warmth an interest in their wellbeing. In all aspects of their life. The, you help them. Through a circumstance challenging situation. Maybe mistake that they made. A leader who influences from the hat. Keeps the commitments. The do what they say they're going to do. Provide. Stability. That provides. A level of trust and loyalty. And remember. It's not around what you say you too. It's around what you actually do. Important to. Not only appreciate and respect your team members, but also to encourage them and empower them. To believe. To Take on new challenges to grow to learn. To come a person. To become a bit a leader. A leader influences from the hot will take time. They'll take the time especially when they don't have it. To, spend time with the people who met an organization. They use that time to listen. To provide, inspiration. To really. Is this. What we here for everyone thrives on. Human. Connection. And you connect between your hearts, you need to be able to share. It's important. You treat other people's time as though. It's yours. So make sure you. Use Your is their time wisely. And effectively. It's important that if you're gonNA influence on the heart, you need passionate around the the employee growth development and career. You to support it to encourage the growth. You need to showcase they have. That, there are great opportunities for them. People always want to what's next they want to continually evolve. And as a leader infants from the heart, he share that passion to support them. Alita who influences from the hot serves others. As spoken about the, they serve to help them to grow to become better serve the with a purpose and a mission. They're giving. Lita. And we've seen that so much. Through recent times where the leaders who have been most effective. Have gone into a serving leadership mode. Somewhat authoritarian. Because people want to be lived during this time. But they've? Taken the ego when it's not about self interest, those countries that have struggled the leaders have put self interest. And self preservation before others before serving others and a so evident. Evident. Important that. You a self aware as Lita. And you have real strong ability to manage your immersions. Because if you lead from hurt. Rather than, hot. It will create a huge energy sack. For. For yourself and all the people around you. And when that happens, it creates distrust disengagement. coacher. How can you ensure that you manage your emotions? So that you can lead from your heart rather than hurt. Being unconscious leader allows you to. Demonstrate Humility, and authenticity. Your ability to share that. It's our to make a mistake and get things wrong and that you don't know everything. It's okay to acknowledge that you might have some weaknesses. It's important. Utilize your strings in the strengths of other people around you. Build. Together to lead together. Creating that opportunity for collaborative leadership. With there's a common purpose. There are clear behavioral experimentation. And it's important that we sip right task from immersion because that will build trust in unity. Amongst the team. To. Really important. That, as a leader, you hold true to your values and the vision. During. The good times and the theory challenging. Times. Stability. And certainty. Comes from ensuring that you hold every decision. and. Every piece of inspiration and every piece of change is based on a corset. Values and beliefs and the vision. To, the must have absolute clarity New Vision to ensure that you can lead authentically from the heart. especially. When? It's a challenging time. Now, what's important? You we talked about earlier on is being the calming influence, in emotional, hippie scene of the people you work with. That allowed you lead from the heart. To be that coming influence. So. CAM leader in Spas more trust and performs better. They make decisions based off. Evidence rather than emotion. That provides calming influence on your team. A camera more confident leader is more likely to do the right thing. To create calmness. Starts. With breathing. If you watch the most effective people when the world have real control. And smoothness of the breathing, they have a kind of assented appearance to them they. Have, this aura. Attractiveness about them because they are so come. And by breathing. Is the heart right and reduces. The Fatah flight mechanism body. Reduces. The ability to upset anxious, angry. has a control over our stress in our response to stress. Super breathing. We have. A live of command and control over the situation and a positive command control I've route people. Because your energy and your reactions and your stress. Wall. Flow over to people around June? Contagious. So bring that passion an energy in a calming influence manner. And then people will naturally connecting, absorb and big along the ride with you. To be a calming influence. It's important that we. Listen. We acknowledge. We paraphrase. We emphasize things. We. Don't interrupt or complete other people's sentences. We aren't rushed to Fillon. Pauses. Who Silences? Use Appropriate Body languishes Sharia engaged in the conversation. We offer insights and. Perspective, without making judgment. And we need to ensure that we have permission. To Robin just giving advice you need to. Wait to, we asked to give advice. We used paraphrasing to ensure we have understanding. It's important. To ensure that you are really good listener because it builds. It actively builds trust. which at least increase, confidence, satisfaction, productivity, collaboration, and ultimately engagement of your team. Great leaders. Are attached to the organization. They're not detached. They have a night feel of what's going on. You're close to the people in the frontlines. act. that. Emotional. Thermostat. That mushroom EPI center of the organizations constant day to day communication. Elitist circulates. The don't stay in one spot. Connect with different people. They are available. But the DOUCET boundaries as well? because. Again cannot be available, twenty, four, seven. The goal of. The come in the storm is a commitment to transparency. And it's important that we should or faisant authenticity in genuine T as A. As a leader. In have honest relationships. The values, people's input and sits if the cool. Standards. Now you'll behaviors. Whatever level you sit for your behaviors, people will sit just below that. Don't they'll come up to it, but not quite to your little. So the high you can sit, you'll behaviors. The high your teams will be. Leading a leader who leads with authenticity. Promotes openness. This year they're real south. The. Open about the mistakes and weaknesses. They put mission and organization goes before self interest. show emotion. Connection and the very long term focused. Think, leader loves to called VA excellent through self-discipline. Values and principles. The topic of this. PODCAST is passion. Influence, from your heart. What does the passionately? Passionately is able to rise above the negativities there. I will to rise above the nice says. The able to down. In, connect with the purpose of themselves in the organization it's aligned. They understand people. The have outstanding communication skills. HAVE REAL CLARITY OF VISION. And I see opportunity. In adversity. They fueled by this positive energy. Little of compassion, the theory resourceful. They take action anticipate rather than react. They have high self belief. No matter what situation you're in. Tuning Vision into reality requires passion because it inspires others to join and identifying with your vision. You must be passionate about making a difference. No you believe in your work. Shark is focus and dedication. Be Eagle Ninety. Three new things. And persevere with with Dr. How you going to? Bring. Out, your passion. And influence from the heart. Episode. Has. I positive and passionate influence on you. And please feel free to Rutta come in to share in your community. So they too can be a world class leader. More about breaking the code, then go to www craig John's dot com you. Join the conversation on Facebook Lincoln Instagram by searching Trade John's O-, Craig Jones official. Nogent, thank you for listening today. I, look forward to your. Feedback, and ideas and responses to this podcast. I'm Craig. Jones. This is the active. See Your podcast with ordinary. doering. Belong. Join the active see movement by visiting www dot enegy to perform dot com. That's N. G. NUMBER TO PERFORM DOT com. Chevy's podcast on linked in and show to tagging energy to perform lever review on Itunes, drop us a line with your feedback and questions and connect with us on the energy to perform facebook and instagram pages. Be sure to check out the next active. See Our podcast where the ordinary don't belong.
Dangerous Alien Life Warning
"I. Love this podcast support this show through the ACOSS support of HR. It's up to you how much give and there's no regular commitment. Just hit the link in the show description to support now. This is space time series twenty-three episode eighty, four for broadcast on the nineteenth of August twenty, twenty coming up on Space Time, and you study warns that Alien Life would be dangerous to worth Ling's NASA looking at a new mission to the planet Venus and the Kremlin tests you anti-satellite weapon system all that and more coming up on. Space Time. Welcome to space time we'd Louis. Gary. Studies found that alien peptides containing two amino acids commonly found in carbonaceous meteorites would pose a serious threat to human health. The findings reported in the journal micro organisms shows the immune. So response to these alien peptides was less efficient than the reaction to those commonly found on earth. The study suggests that extraterrestrial micro-organisms if they exist could pose an immunological risk to space missions aiming to retrieve samples from other. Planets and moons life on Earth essentially relies on twenty two amino acids. The research look at the reaction of Mammalian t cell immune responses to peptides can the amino acids Valen an Alpha Amino. I said teric acid which are commonly found on meteorites researches found t cells exposed to these a amino acids had active ation levels of just fifteen percent and sixty one percent respectively that compares to eighty two percent. Ninety, one percent respectively when exposed to peptides made entirely of amino acids found commonly on earth scientists say that is scary of unusual sugars or amino acids in high abundances on carbonaceous meteorites. Mexican siebel that if extraterrestrial micro organisms exist in some of the numerous liquid water reserves discovered our solar system, they could contain proteins that include some of these dangerous amino acids we know that both the Jovian Moon Europa. And this attorney and moon enceladus contain liquid water oceans beneath an icy crust, and there's growing evidence that the Red Planet Mars also contains at least seasonal liquid water seeps. This is space time still to come NASA looking at a new mission to Earth sister. Planet Venus and they may talk about demilitarizing space but the criminals just tested a new anti-satellite weapon system all that and more coming up on space time. Okay. Imagine the earth now fill the skies with thick son obscuring clouds of self uric acid boil away the oceans by cracking up the temperature to nearly five hundred degrees Celsius and boost the air pressure by one hundred percent high enough to crush you like a pancake. What you now have is the planet Venus. Venus is a sister planet birth similar in size there in a similar location and our solar system they formed in the same part of the solar system under similar conditions and from the same material. And they different in almost every other way. But exactly how the sister planets evolved. So differently as being a burning scientific question for decades. Now a proposed new NASA mission called Veritas would seek to provide those answers Veritas. We transformed scientists understanding the internal geodynamics that shaped Venus the mission could also provide new insights, Earth's evolution and even help better understand rocky planets orbiting other stars. The last NASA mission to study Vanessa surface was Magellan back in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, four well, it provided tantalizing clues about Venus geology the instrumentation of back then couldn't explain the origin of many of the planet strain. Surface features proposed for launch in two thousand and twenty six their attacks were orbit Venus in P. Through it's obscuring clouds using powerful new stead of the radar systems to create three D. global maps. It would also be equipped with a new near Infrared Spectrometer, the figure out what the is made of, and it would make the planet's gravitational field determined the structure of unusual interior. Together, these instruments would provide clues to the planet's past and present as well as geological. Processes from its core surface on earth the Richard crust that envelops the planet he's broke into a jigsaw puzzle or tectonic plates or floating on top of the mantle and convective carrots. The mantle help drive the motion of tectonic surface plates as some of these plates the send back into the interior of the planet throw president is seduction they melt with volcanic outgassing releasing volatile such as water, nitrogen, calmed oxide, and methane into the atmosphere learning more about the geological processes. On Venus where the WOM- crust is a good analogy for earlier when the planets crustal plates were just beginning to form could offer a valuable glimpse into how these processes began on Earth Vera Test Geology Science team member Professor Jones Start. From Caltech, says, the biggest mystery is the extent of defamation structures on Venus areas of rock on the surface that boggled under immense geological pressure. It could be studied understand the nature of any tectonic activity on the planet producing high. Resolution three-dimensional topographic maps. Veritas would bring the focus structures that have previously been too small to resolve. These structures could include raised apostrophe on both sides of strike slip faults sort of like the San Andreas Fort, which would be an indicator of major tectonic activity. There are tests would also look for active surface. Faulting isn't interfering metric defamation maps and it would study the vast defamation structures known as terror. The huge plateau like features are thought to be analogous to continents. On Earth a leading theory is that Earth's continents formed when I enrich as Yannick Cross adopted Milton in the presence of water producing huge volumes of new listen rich continental crust that rose above the oceans. That's why the continental crust is grundig an ocean crust up Celtic, Veritas would construct the first global modern spectral maps of Venus's surface composition to determine Venus's Tetra plateaus formed in a similar way to Earth continents, and if they composition does resemble the continental crust of. Earth scientists say gain information about Venus's wetter past see on earth plate tectonics ve organism go hand in hand. But what about Venus confirming that Venus really is volcanically active as long suspected and understanding how that process works on. Venus is another really exciting question that scientists want answered using it spectrometer Veritas would determine if rocks recently formed from erupting magma before interactions with atmosphere would have had time to change their chemical composition. The spectrometer would also such hotspots from active. Eruptions while the radar instrument look for active faulting an indication of tectonic activity getting to know Venice's volcanoes and the geophysical processes causing them, what allow scientists to better understand the impact on the planet's climate, and perhaps even answer. Another question does the pilots interior still contain large quantities of water like Earth's does plate tectonics and Vulcan. ISM. Don't just affect how planet take shape. They're also intimately tied took planet's habitability. See Plate tectonics has strongly affected us long term climate by. The processes that keep the atmosphere imbalance ve organism which releases volatile into the atmosphere, and some deduction which recycles does tells back into the Interior. Also, the formation erosion of Earth's continents have a major influence on the composition of the oceans and atmosphere together all these processes provide the nutrients and habitable climate for life to thrive to unwrap the mysteries of Venus scientists need to look under the hood at. Vince interior at its geologic engine driving its geologic and atmospheric evolution. Then, we'll scientists discover Phoenix, and the Earth are fundamentally unique worlds or if their differences are only cosmetic and answering that question is key to understanding what makes other rocky planets habitable and ultimately allow life to emerge the find out more Andrew Dunkley speaking with astronomy Professor Fred Watson the truth about our sister planet. Venus they call it the sister planet because it's a rocky planet and it's about the same size as earth. But I think that's different stops or the the similarities. The differences. Surface. Temperature four hundred fifty degrees Celsius thick son obscuring clouds which at least with sulfuric acid it's. Incredibly different. The surface atmosphere pressure is about hundred times what it is here on earth. So you'd be flattened if you're standing on the surface, you'd be very, very squashed. The rocks themselves probably glowing. Because they so hot. Let me give you a quote from Dr Susan Smith who is at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena in California. She says Venus is this cosmic gift of an accident. You have these two planetary bodies earth and Venus started out nearly the same but have gone down to completely different Evelyn paths but we don't know why that is the you know that's the kind of setting the scene for a space probe which. The consideration is still at an early stage in his evil. Self they spice probe is being considered for selection under NASA, Discovery, program, and actually it will be jpl jet propulsion laboratory that would be the the managing organizations they offer nearly all these intend to planetary probes. So what is this space craft cold? It has a rather nice acronym. Actually it's very TASS is the name Venus 'em Mississippi Radio Science Inside Topography and Spectrograph Speaker Sexual. Right. You've got. Also what it does is it a whole list of things that will teach us Venus Emma. Radio Science in sorry I'm not sure what that is. To Griffin Spectroscopy So basically is an orbiting spacecraft to follow up on the last big mission to Venus in certainly in terms of studying the surface of the planet not was the Magellan spacecraft back in. Four and tell to believe he's twenty six years ago when that project in there are other spacecraft in orbit around Venus. The Venus Express is a European one. There is a Japanese one whose name eludes me at the moment, but they produce marvellous insight into the atmosphere of Venus remarkable imagery showing things like standing waves in atmosphere curious things like that. This would be I guess something that will build on all of those. The proposal is that it will be launched in twenty twenty. It will orbit the planet state of the art radar system. That's the big new facet on on this coast things have moved along since nineteen, ninety, four and. Out to be able to really say what's going on because Venus's. Is Essentially pay. So you have to have the radar to produce detailed maps. There is also going to be a near Infrared Spectrometer, which, of suspect, he's in some IB actually near Infrared Spectrometer, which will basically analyze what surface itself is made of, give you at least some some good insights into the Mineral Light Cup of the surface but the other thing is what we saying with Juno in orbits around Jupiter by knowing the details of the space craft jobs, you can essentially plot the gravitational field Venus and look in more detail than we have at the moment at the internal structure of Venus because the gravitational field is different depending on. What structure so all of these instruments and facilities will basically we hope give us some idea of how the planet has evolved geologically what the geological processes are that going on at the moment and as they say from its core to surface. So it's a holistic look of the planet. Venus there are lots of things we want to know are there is that plate tectonics on Venus? This is something that's not not really well known. So all of these questions on the table for the very task's mission. So I hope in six years time Andrew when my knees fully recovered you and I, we talking about the launch of the space craft. Endure he'd the guide to try and find out what went wrong with Venus. As I say with both and Venus started at. Pretty much the same and just went totally opposite directions. we became a livable world with water and oxygen, and all the things needed to create life and Venus. Went A. Lot. You know you can earn in Hill or they weren't too much `electricity not that we would set. could we learn? Could we learn anything from the demise of faintness? As potentially livable world that might help. That's why we study these rocky planets because we've got two opposite extremes on other side of Mars and Venus. And the more we know about them the more we understand the atmosphere of our own plan on the geology of our own planet vets, Dr Fred Watson and astronomer with part of Science speaking with Andrew Dunkley on assists the program space nuts, and this is space time. I'm Stewart Gary still to come Russia, Monte, calling for the banning of weapons in space yet there's growing evidence the Kremlin's testing new anti-satellite weapon systems and China launches another high resolution surveillance satellite increasing its is in the sky. Star come on space time. Okay, let's take a break from our show for a word from our sponsor. VPN rated number one by Tek Raider. Wondering. Why you need a virtual private network? Well, it's in the name. It's all about privacy. 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Try Express VPN DOT com slash space to learn more and, of course you'll find the link details in the show notes and on our website that's try expressed vpn dot com slash space, and now it's back to our show you're listening to spend time with Stewart Gerry Moscow was conducted space-based anti-satellite weapons test firing a projectile from its Kosmos Twenty five three satellite the controversial Cosmos five forty three was launched from the Plesetsk Cosmodrome Becky November twenty nineteen as part of the Kremlin so-called inspector series spacecraft these spacecraft designed to change their orbits. So they can allegedly inspect instead of the condition of other Russian satellites in orbit however early the She Washington raise concerns about the spacecraft's true nature after spotted the Kremlin maneuvering the cosmos, twenty, five, forty, three, and another satellite. The Cosmos Twenty five forty two close to an American satellite and deadly hoping the United States wasn't watching the Pentagon's concern that these Russian satellites are actually designed to install electronics and take control of American and allied satellites or attach tracking devices or possibly even explosives to them. Washington says that Moscow's actions by firing a projectile impacts from the Cosmos twenty-five forty-three contradicts the Kremlin's call for Atta space arms control this space time. Still the come China's growing is in the sky and later in the science. And you study confirms that New Zealand's Melting glaciers at ten times more likely to have been caused by global warming all that and more still to come on space. Time. China has launched another high resolution surveillance satellite is out of its growing constellation of almost one hundred is in the sky keeping a close watch Beijing's friends and enemies. Then you go being nine four optical remote sensing satellite was launched aboard a Long March today rocket from the Yucatan satellite launch. Century northwestern China's Guanzhou province. The spacecraft was placed into a four hundred, ninety four. By Five, hundred, thirty, kilometer high orbit Beijing claims the new satellite will mainly be useful and surveys. Crop yield estimates solar disaster, prevention and mitigation but military analysts claim the satellite will also used to track adversary sailing and places like the South China Sea. The Straits of Taiwan and the East China Sea as well as monitoring China's growing interests in the Western Pacific and Indian. Ocean. Also, board for the launch was a small secondary payload that Xinhua said Light, which will study Earth's gravity and atmosphere understanding the planet's gravitational fields and atmospheric environment helps improve the accuracy of missile targeting systems. Emission also marked the lunch of a Long March two D rocket and the three hundred and forty second launch of a member of the Long March rocket family. This space. Time. and Tom Out of take another brief look at some of the other stories making it inside this week with a science report. Well, it seems whole chunks of the globe of come to a stop for covid nineteen lockdowns causing what's now the longest and most prominent reduction in man made noise on record a report in the Journal. Science measured vibrations caused by human activity finding that global lockdowns have reduced seismic noise around the planet by up to fifty percent. The findings based on data collected from two hundred and sixty eight seismic monitoring stations in one hundred seventeen countries around the world as countries began implementing lockdowns to prevent the further spread of. covid nineteen from China Clay Patent started to emerge the so-called anthropoids as it's become known I became noticeable at the Chinese Epi Center in late January followed by countries in Europe and the rest of the world of March April and May as the full extent of the pandemic became known in all one hundred, eighty five seismic monitoring stations recorded significant drops in the high frequency anthropogenic signal correlating to lockdowns in those regions it was most pronounced in high density areas such as cities but researchers say the effect was also noticeable immoral low density rural areas, even stations that are incredibly isolated such as the middle of the fat filed Germany's black forest. May, well, a new study looking at your chances of getting covid nineteen in a commuter situation such as aboard a train or aircraft have found that sitting within three seats of an infected person meant you have on average is zero point three, two percent chance of catching the virus. The study also showed that passengers travelling seats directly adjacent to an infected passenger suffered the highest level of transmission with an average three point, five percent chance of contracting the owners. However, it also found that sitting on the seat previously occupied by infected person only increase your chances of contracting covid nineteen by zero point zero, seven, five percent much lower than previously thought the findings by scientists from the University of Southampton reported in the Journal Clinical Infectious Diseases. Study concluded that New Zealand's Melting glaciers were ten times more likely to be caused by man made global warming than by any other process. The findings report in the journal Nature Climate Change show that this increased likelihood is driven by present day temperatures being around one degree higher than before the industrial revolution. The study suggests that as the earth gets warmer, though be an increasingly visible human fingerprint on extreme glacier mass loss of the coming decades. Paleontologists discovered a new species of theropod dinosaur in Portugal. NEW CA-CAR DONTE Asari and DONOSO named Lusa Venuto Turkey is based on fossil fragments from two individuals from the Jurassic one of the fossils has been dated to around one hundred, fifty, three, million years ago and the other to around one hundred forty, five, million years ago. The Ancient Predators reported in the Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology h around three and a half meters long animated tall. 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Most Employers Won't Be Covid Testing Returning Workers
"Welcome to the Bloomberg markets podcast I'm Paul Sweeney along with my co-host upon equipped every business day we bring you interviews from the E. O.'s market, pros and Bloomberg experts along with essential market-moving news time to Bloomberg markets podcast on Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to podcasts on Bloomberg Dot Com. Well as US employers continue to reopen their businesses and the economy overall one of the key questions being asked is to what degree are employers responsible for maintaining a healthy and safe work environment. Get some answers. We welcome Emma Court. She's a healthcare reporter for Bloomberg. News Emma. Thanks so much for joining us here. Give us a sense of maybe the you know the the whole paradigm of what we're seeing as businesses open up. What are they doing to ensure? The health and safety of their employees coming back. You, know! Workplace safety has become a really kind of new and different paradigms today, right employers, you know. Some of them have been operating throughout the pandemic summit on are starting to push to return to work for the first time pushing. You know maybe smaller cohorts of employees at the beginning, and as part of that you know we're seeing a lot of different measures being deployed where you know, we've been talking about temperatures screening for a long time symptom. Symptom checkers which means you know, baby? Your employer sends you a list of questions. You have to answer before you come into office, you know. Do you have symptoms? Things like that? Have you been in high risk situations like a group of people or an event indoors? Things like that You know masks at work you know even physical barriers like plexiglass for instance, hand sanitizer everywhere, but interestingly testing which has become such a first line mechanism. Ensuring health in the community. It's sort of our only option. Absent a vaccine in terms of ensuring this virus doesn't you know spread rapidly from person to person that has actually been a really small element of employers back to back to work pushes and there. They're a variety of reasons for that, but a big one is causing and the sort of crucial limitations of how these tests can be deployed. You can't really test someone and say okay. You know you're all clear and we don't have to worry about you anymore. Getting sick, you know that's. That's that's not how these types worker. The diagnostic tests that we have right now. Say at this moment in time when you were tested. You do not have covid nineteen. You know there's also an issue of false negative, but mainly there's an issue of what if you leave the testing site and you go into the parking lot, and you get sick, you know. How helpful is the test? Then these are things. Employers are really kind of wrestling with a they think about whether to have employees that work and what kinds of mechanisms in place there. What are employers responsible for and whose regulating that is at the unions Is there anything in federal government suggestions? There's been a variety of recommendations in terms of how to return to work, and it sort of depends on where you look. Everyone has sort of a a booklet of recommendations or requirements. In some cases, you know local governments state governments. The CDC has recommendations you know EEOC? Put out a recommendations. Even specifically on testing thing you can use diagnostic tester, but there are other kinds of testing. You can't make a requirement to go back to work, so it depends on the industry. Industry and where you are and things like that and it it does present the sort of patchwork of requirements and recommendations depending on where you are, of course, local conditions factor into this a lot to you know I'm here in New York. Where you know obviously with a very big hot spot, you know earlier in in the pandemic, and now you, perhaps for people are returning to work whereas other parts of the country that the situation terms of covid nineteen. It's very different. So. TWIGG stent. Do we know kind of the liability? Businesses may have from employees saying you're assuming them because you brought me back into a unsafe work environment. Yeah, you know, it's a really interesting and important question and one. That's sort of still being figured out right now I mean you know with regards to testings? Pacific? We've seen you know a union that represents employees and casinos in Vegas Su. certain casinos, saying you need to make testing a part of the return to work strategy like this has to be a mandatory part of this of this of. Of this push but we've also seen a lot of lawsuit filed over missing something that's probably going to be litigated for a long time and and it's unclear a big question that comes up around that is. Can you prove that you've got corona? You've got covid nineteen at work, and it's not clear how well anyone would be able to prove that I mean. It depends on what the bar is. How how the Bar that by court? What be the test case. Is there a test case out there yet or or do? We have to wait and see for a few more months. I think this is gonNA. Take a while to settle. You know many employers. especially large employers that operate in many jurisdictions are still wrestling with these issues than and I think we are also going to see standards evolve and change as testing technology gets better for instance, as people set standards for different industries, one of employers that operate in places around the country has tried to. You know because they're facing the sort of patchwork of different requirements, and guidance have tried to make you know meet sort of the highest. Highest Standard right because it's easier if you're operating in multiple jurisdictions but you know the bar may be lower for small businesses or other kinds of of players, so it's going to be really interesting to see how these things shake out and to see if employers become you know, go out there and say we are studying the highest possible standards for a workplace. Maybe become a big incentive for employees to want to work there. Exactly. It's going to be fascinating. I mean we'll countries in be suing other countries if Travelers brought it in. Our thanks to course health care reporter for Bloomberg. Now. Let's move to the oil market because we're seeing Saudi, Arabia raised prices were seeing equities rally, and that's all helping oil to stay above forty dollars a barrel, somebody watching this and the natural gas markets very closely is Stephen Schork president of the Schork Group always thrilled? Have Stephen on Stevens Saudi is raising prices. Is that a little bit dangerous in terms of the balance when it comes to tech? Absolutely absolutely I think so Vanni look, it is the first week of July which only means we have about seven more weeks of demand or peak demand left in the season, and in fact when we look at this market, historically demand will peak by the end of this month beginning of August so so once we get into August the this season. Peak demand is going to pull off into the exit ramp, and then as of course we transition into the fall, demand will continue to fall. Now. Keep in mind. This is not a obviously. Obviously a year and demand is already supremely lagging relative to normal for instance here in the United States we should be boiling upwards of well over seventeen million barrels a day in last week's report, we just breached the fourteen million barrel a day, so were accumulating relative historical norms significant glut in the market with regard to crude oil the same situation in gasoline, so with the current situation given where we are at this point of the the calendar We're certainly playing with a with a dangerous market at this point. So Stephen The news. We woke to this morning. Is that Warren? Buffett is buying some assets from dominion resources. That pipeline business is that any way? Should that in any way be interpreted as a call that warns calling the bottom in natural gas prices well to be honest with you. I I'm certainly relieved that Mr Buffet is making this purchase of course with what we saw last week with Chesapeake and some of the other major bankruptcies. We've seen since The market collapsed back in April, Certainly the signs were there that we were going to see consolidation in this industry. I don't think mister buffets purchases going to be the the. The, the last transaction that we've seen this market we're going to see a marketplace is much smaller as companies with with good acreage. prime assets that are having difficulty We'll look to bail on this market so so clearly. What we're looking at here is a market that you know primarily natural gas as as bad fuel of the future certainly giving it stance in the marketplace that is the thinking man's choice to be had as we look forward a my only caveat, here is my concern. I should say is kind of the the the the lurch that we're seeing with certain aspects in the government The way or discouraging investment in in in hydrocarbons, especially natural gas, but Mr Buffets entry into this market at this juncture, it makes sense. These assets are being had on the cheap. He's Warren Buffett he knows what he's doing. and I'm taking that as a relief because my concerns regarding government. Interference Affairs in this market aside. I don't think he'd be making this assumption. If there that was really something to be concerned about, you know it goes against tuition, Stephen that we should ever use to anything. Particularly the markets, but natural gas producers for the thirty sixth consecutive month have boosted production at these prices. How does that make sense? Yeah absolutely it it is. It is a bit of a head scratcher a lot of that production of Vanni over. The past three years has been What's called associated gas production? So that that is making its way to the market that that's not being drilled for that is to say. This was crucial. That's being drilled for and gas deposits associated with the those barrels being pulled out of the ground. Knock gas is coming up as well and that is certainly adding to the pool so I. do think we're at that point for instance here in Pennsylvania which is now the EPI center of basically the global natural gas market we've seen a significant decline in drilling permits since February so and in fact, Appalachian Natural Gas Production Pennsylvania Ohio West, specifically that production has been falling month over month now for about the last seven or eight months, so it's been a slow catch up, I think. That the issue here is that the gas market is the the the there. There's a limit engineering wise to the amount of gas. You can actually pull off, but now it's a demand side. A Steven thanks so much as always for that update on all things, energy really appreciate getting your view Steven Schork president of the short group in Pennsylvania talking about. Crude oil globally natural gas particularly here in the US again. Warren Buffett. Buying the pipeline at certain pipeline assets from Dominion Energy. Well for many investors in this market given the volatility, they are simply trying to preserve wealth as best they can. And that includes some of the ultra-wealthy as well Michael Sonnenfeldt. He's chairman and founder of Tiger Twenty one. Tiger Twenty one is really a unique organization. It's a peer member ship Organization for high net worth. Wealth creators and preserver so. Michael gets a really interesting viewpoint there from his members. And he joins us now Michael Sonnenfeldt. Thanks so much for joining us once again again. Since the last time we talked to you, we've had this tremendous pandemic sweep the world creating a tremendous amount of economic. Uncertainty. How are your members viewing the world today? And how are they positioning their portfolios? Great thanks for having me Paul. You know Our members have been weathering the storm, and and that's how they think about it. Our members are primarily not exclusively first generation, wealth, creators, and mostly entrepreneurs, investors and executives, so these these are the people who've had to create wealth over an entire generation, and they've been through different storms. This is certainly unique, but they've been doing two things always looking for opportunities very selectively. It's not business as usual the way we say it is our window for business is open. Individuals say this I window for businesses open, but the bar is much higher, but also we've been raising cash because right now. Everything seems very rosy. It's not just today's Eh Bulent Market the last couple of weeks. The market has been coming back. But. Members aren't convinced that it's a one way street. You could have some rough times coming up later this year. When P P P runs out, and obviously, the pandemic has hit different businesses quite differently. If you're a retailer, you're thinking very differently than if you're a tech company. That's doing extremely well. The reopened today. The new deadline suppliers August, eighth so a few more weeks for people to apply Michael any idea how much wells was destroyed by the pandemic. Well most of our members because they have a low exposure to the public markets, only about twenty one percent are in the around breaking. Even you know if you were high tech investor, the Nasdaq is a head for the year. quite amazingly, so we have members who if they have well? Diversified portfolios have losses in the single digits but just like the. The average of a man and a horse three legs some of our members have done extremely well, and others are learning from them how they were positioned to do so well and thinking about how to be protective on the downside, so it's it's across the board, but generally is probably a break, even to just down one or two or three points at point. So Michael. It's interesting on the front just over the last twenty four hours we saw. FAMOUS VALUE INVESTOR Warren Buffett. Make ten. Billion dollar. Acquisition of some. Liquefied Natural some guests assets pipelines, suggesting to a lot of investors that maybe he sees the bottom in that particular subset of the market art, your members are they saying hey, I'm going to take advantage of this market. A meltdown that we've seen even despite the the the partial comeback we've had. Maybe it's opportunity to really bottom fishing certain sector. Oh, for sure you know. I think what's made our members. A unique cohort is the fact that they could roll up their shirtsleeves and Shuck and Jive if you will to opportunities and so they've they've. Kinda had a twist in their portfolio on the one hand. They've bolstered their cash. we we recognize over the last ten years. through our asset allocation how members are diversifying their portfolio and cash has been around twelve percent well in the last three months. Cash has grown to eighteen percent. That's a dramatic change of call it a flight to. To Safety, but what that really means is members are building resources to pounce on opportunities I know in ninety one. When the real estate market was down, I bought a portfolio for twenty cents on the dollar that tripled in value over the next few years, and these kind of opportunities only occur in times like this, so you have to both have the security to know that you can weather the storm, but that allows you to be on the lookout for unique opportunities and I would say that balance that twist if you will more security and working really hard to find opportunities, characterizes a good number of our members very briefly Michael. What's the relationship to real? Estate House changed twenty-six. Real. Estate is our biggest allocation about twenty eight percent of our assets and today we have about eighty billion dollars and I. We don't manage money. It's our members individual. Managing a over seven hundred ninety members real estate is the story of the pandemic. If you're in the retail area or the hotel area, it's you know in a heap of trouble, but industrial real estate has done amazingly well and just as you. You were asking me pouncing on opportunities. Obviously, if you were diversified well, even if you were in the real estate in retail, you hopefully have other assets now and now there are opportunities to look at so we have members looking at shopping, malls and hotel chains to see where the opportunities are because there's going to build opportunities there Michael. We will check back in with you on that Michaelson term founder of Tiger Twenty one. We are broadcasting live from break interactive brokers. Studio ended his time for Bloomberg. Opinion at ten forty nine on wall, street's. It's time to check in with Bloomberg opinion columnist. Of biography of Henry Kissinger. The author of civilization, the West and the rest, and of course senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford. Ferguson is very welcome to the program Neil. You're the man who coined the word. Chai America and you say in one of your columns that you agree with Henry Kissinger that. We've seen the opening gambit in a Cold War to this between the US. And China hounded relations between Beijing, Washington Sour so badly. What it's a, it's a great question I was one of the people who came up with China America back in two thousand, seven alone with more. Scheuer, but we always said it would last that the war CIA America was a pun on the word Kai Mira. The only question was things would unravel. It would be around the financial crisis, but that didn't happen. I think the. The real turning point has been cheated and things increasing the asserts of foreign policy and I see the presidency of Donald Trump is in some measure just to reaction to that, because it kind of the penny dropped with ordinary Americans China was getting most of the benefits of China America and finally someone came along from outside. The political class articulated dot concerned that somebody was donald trump. All right, so neil from your perspective. What do you think China strategy is here? Well I think of his the a priority on readying writes in the Kennel ship and I think one has to recognize. The principle concern for Xi Jinping is actually making sure. Chinese economy weathers the storm of covid nineteen but meanwhile I think the subplot is asserting China's power, not only regionally, but globally in a whole range of of different ways ranging from the one belt, one road initiative, which is very much She's in things brainchild. To more conventional assertions of power in the South China Sea and with respect to Taiwan, and then fighting the tech war, which I think is really key here. Sometimes people forget that the tech war over the future of hallway and its role in global five G. networks is more important than the trade war that Donald Trump launched in. Twenty nine I think from the Chinese vantage point very major concern that right now there's a Damocles sword over away in September. The Commerce Department is intending to cut hallway off for important semiconductors from companies like Taiwan's EMC, so there's a whole range of ways in which this Cold War is being waged but I think the key thing is is not assume that somehow donald trump started it. I think it's much more accurate to say that China started and trump was in some ways a reaction to the. And, in fact, Neil, what you're saying brings up. The question of whether Xi. Jinping is actually committed to market reform to the extent, thus predecessors wore. Is he willing to give up some free markets? You know developments if like in order to return his community to sort of more. Communist community. Well I think it's crucial to realize that she shouldn't. Ping has quite consciously shifted away from policies of economic liberalization, and that one of the signatures of his time as general secretary of the Communist Party has been an increase in the power of the state owned enterprises and I, also I think just impulsively a real tightening ideologically, which is very obvious In Chinese universities I'm visiting professor seeing Wa, but. The atmosphere change one of relative openness to one in which people are losing their jobs or indeed being. Subject to arrest for. Essentially lecturing on the realities of Chinese history and expressing criticism of the of this new ideological tightening. I do think there's one full of vacation the one way that the Chinese trying to counter trump. is by appealing to Wall Street. And saying yeah, we may, we may become in, but come on in to our financial markets, and we'll make it easier for you to come in, but to get out of course because China still capital controls, but I think one of the interesting subplots. Here is the way in which Beijing pitching to Wall Street. And that's a pitch this. This get getting quite a warm reception from companies ranging from J.. P. Morgan to the big credit card companies. That's an exception. The basic trend is a reimposition of the party's control and shift away from the more the the more liberal era when we used to talk about it, ultimately, the the random be being a convertible currency. I think that's all forgotten. Neil thank you so much for joining us. appreciate your thoughts on important and evolving topic Neil Ferguson. He's a senior fellow at the hoover. Institution at Stanford University's also Bloomberg opinion columns. Thanks for listening to Bloomberg Markets Podcast, you can subscribe and listen to interviews at Apple podcasts, or whatever podcast platform you prefer I'm Bonnie. Quinn I'm on twitter at Quinn and Paul Sweeney I'm on twitter at PT Sweeney before the podcast. You can always catch US worldwide at Bloomberg radio.
The Psychological Toll of Working on the Front Lines
"Corona virus fact versus fiction is sponsored by Pharma doctors and nurses risking their lives to save you and me and patients do worry about our first responders and healthcare workers in terms of the trauma. They're exposed to physicians are victims of this unprecedented public emergency. Since the beginning of this pandemic healthcare workers have been dealing with this virus head on putting their own physical health at risk according to the CDC report released April more than nine thousand. Healthcare workers have been infected with the corona virus and because of the limited data. We have that number is likely higher. But we shouldn't forget. The other risks are healthcare. Workers are facing. I'm talking about the emotional and psychological ones every night in cities around the world. We celebrate our healthcare workers but the thing is even before this pandemic their jobs were demanding their in high stress life and death situations with long hours. So in this episode I WanNa talk about the pandemics psychological costs to the people on the front lines. And what's being done to help them? I'm Dr Sanjay Gupta. Cnn's chief medical correspondent and this is corona virus fact versus fiction. She was Doctor. Every the word doctor should be. She put her life on the line to take care of other people. That is Dr Lorna. Breen's father last week doctor. Breen a New York City emergency room doctor died by suicide. She had actually contracted Kovic nineteen herself. After recovering. She went back to work. She was like the firemen who runs into the burning building to save another life. And does it regard anything about yourself. There is so much about this virus that is new and unfamiliar making Everyday Life More challenging. I've heard that from my colleagues every day. They wonder are they safe? And if their families and loved ones are safe as well. I recently spoke with Dr Steven McDonald. He's an Er doctor at the same hospital Doctor Breen. He's been on the frontline for weeks taking care of patient after patient after patient. New York has been the. Us's pandemic EPI center with more than three hundred twenty one thousand people infected and twenty five thousand deaths. I asked Dr McDonald about how he's coping with everyday reality as well as the loss of a colleague and how. He's taking care of his own mental health. So how is life? Mcdonald's first of all things are changing day to day. I think life a month ago looked very different than only two weeks ago than it does today. Thankfully emergency department volumes are significantly down But also as you can imagine the Ten or my department is depressed. We we just lost one of our faculty members one of our physicians. And so there's definitely Paul that's been cast over my department in addition to this pandemic. I'm so sorry to hear that a I don't think people always recognize both the physical and psychological toll on on frontline workers like yourself at what point for you did it becomes something that was personally frightening As we were approaching the peak I would walk into the emergency room and it was in a state of chaos and it was overwhelming to an extent that I'd never really seen before It fell I keep describing it as though Caged animal had been kind of let loose and no one could see it or get back into the cage. You know I've been. I finished med school in one thousand nine hundred ninety three so. I've been doing this for a long time. And typically you know the family is there. There's an additional line of support but what you're describing as people who are coming in almost always by themselves because families can't come in and now they find themselves in a position where they may suddenly die. It's tough I don't mean to paint it so stark but it sounds like that is the reality. At least in in some of these situations let me ask. How worried were you about contracting the virus? Yourself if I'm being honest you know early on. I think this was probably mid March when this was first starting. I had a moment at home by myself. Born out of complete irrationality Where I suddenly was convinced that I was going to die of this I. I can't explain to you where that came from. I think it was just maybe having read a couple too. Many of these cases in having talk to a couple of colleagues who had pronounced young people dead of this and I just suddenly was gripped by that conviction and it was frightening. It was really frightening Just to feel like there's there's nothing that I can do in this. I have truly no agency over my death in some regard. There's no amount of people that will protect me from this and I. I know that to be irrational. I know that to not be true but I was so gripped by it in one moment I I agree with you and I think that's a really interesting way to put you know we we we. Won't we do all the right things? But there are things in life especially with the microscopic virus. That's inexplicable so you really putting yourself at risk did you. Did you ever think about sitting it out saying you know what it's it's not worth it? I did have a moment where I think it was a Sunday night and I had my first shift and a couple of weeks on the Monday and I was to be totally honest with you. I was a wreck. I was Iraq I was calling family and friends and I was really upset and I was thinking about the number of people that I was going to have to pronounced dead or have to have end of life conversations with and I founded so overwhelming in the abstract on that Sunday night I thankfully have agreed support network. Great their best and soak with her bet And was able to sort of pull myself together and work and be a physician the next day but that was a difficult twenty. Four hours. You know Steven. It's always struck me that even within the medical community. There is still a stigma about seeking Therapy seeking mental health support Yet so important. Maybe never more important than it is right now. D- do you sense that stigma. I mean it hasn't manifested at all in your life I mean you know absolutely I would say physicians don't talk about mental health issues I don't know if any job is really that open about this but writing medicine in general breeds a culture of silence about this and you do hear about physicians who die by suicide compared to the general community. It's typically higher across the board. There was a lot of news about Dr Brain Lately And I know you you knew her somewhat when you heard this. Were you surprised absolutely? I was completely floored she always again. I only knew her in a professional capacity. She struck me as someone who was So self possessed and so capable really tough as nails enabled to deal with any situation had on and you know I. I st all of my colleagues as being That tough has there been anything good. That's come out of this for you So I think there has been incredible camaraderie among physicians At the peak of this we had orthopedics and urologist coming down and managing critically ill patients and doing blood draws and doing things that are way below their level of training just to help out and to see colleagues who were so willing to be part of. This effort was really inspiring. Secondly I think this remains to be borne out but one in hopes that I have this virus I think is sort of peeling back. The skin and showing us at the core of American society things that really need attention on a federal and legislative level so the inequalities that this is exposing the problems in the healthcare system that this is exposing and I hope that these are conversations that are started and carry weight and are not forgotten after. We beat this thing. Come robbery As well you're absolutely right about. I've seen that in our own hospital. Although it does make me think of this joke that you probably heard the definition of a double blind study no to worth a peek surgeons trying to read an ekg. I love that I will not be telling I want to ask you about the. There's been a best moment in the end to end a worst moment. Yes Worst moment for me was it was during the peak and I was coming into a shift I received sign out on. Probably Forty patients were all critically ill and so. I was in this awful situation where I was pulled into. One Room to be with a critical patient who is dying And then the nurse Crimson gets me and says you also have a critical patients dying in this other room and so I run through to this other room and this woman is near death. Heart has nearly stopped. Her oxygen levels are falling. She's already on a ventilator and she was in her late eighties and the team is the team. Residence is looking to me to ask. What are we going to do when this woman's heart stops as it appears it's going to in the next ten seconds fifteen seconds and this woman had no established Advanced Directives and we made multiple attempts to get in touch with family. And we're unable to and you know all the data shows that someone at this age who's already on ventilator this person's not going to live no matter what interventions you make and so talking to you now it seems very obvious to not attempt to prolong life but in that moment it was very hard for me to make that decision it was. There was no clarity about it and so I declined to perform CPR. But then I felt terribly about that in the moment That was really the lowest woman I've had during this where I just felt like I ended. Someone's life without any any data I guess in terms of Bright spots of us. So you're familiar. I'm sure with the seven o'clock clap for providers and essential workers and so after Lorna Breen's passing Next Day and we did at seven o'clock go out to the front of the Emergency Department All the doctors who are able in the nurses and everyone and We just had a hell of a clap for those that we've lost and it doesn't in any way redeem what's happened but it was a really a nice moment of Camaraderie and to celebrate the accomplishments of those that we've lost including Dr Brian. Going going back to the to the worst moment for a second. I mean for for what it's worth Stephen. I mean that that is tough decision but I'm sorry that that obviously left a such a mark on you but from what you described was the. It was the correct decision. Thank you Do you worry that you're suffering from post traumatic stress? It's hard to say I mean the I think like post traumatic stress disorder when you're in the thick of it you don't think about it and it's only once things calmed down. The you begin to have things like flashbacks or intrusive thoughts so far. I've been very fortunate in that. I have not had those symptoms. But I can't tell you with any certainty that I won't in the future And so that is a perpetual source of anxiety and concern. Well I mean I I I will clap harder and cheer even louder after hearing your story about how that made you feel. I mean it's the least. I think that people can do and people really owe you a debt gratitude. So thank you very much. They'll be books written about the sort of work that you've you've done. I know you're in the midst of it right now. So it's hard to to sense that but But thank you thank you thank you so much like Dr McDonald said. Doctors are facing so many challenges. Right now there are these long demanding shifts the risk of exposure to the virus and the number of patients that are dying which is unlike anything we have ever dealt with before you know you think of the first wave of illness being the wave of patients coming in and presenting with illness but for these healthcare workers the stresses are are somewhat cumulative and so you can think of a second wave of stress coming through for the Kovin healthcare workers. That was Dr John Krystal. He heads the Psychiatry Department at both Yale University and Yale Newhaven Hospital. He's been tasked with leading a group that identifies healthcare providers who are struggling and provides them with support one kind of support that we have is giving people a place they can drop into any day. They want every day five days a week. We have what we call stress in resilience town. Halls are open to everybody in the community staff trainees. Doctors the idea was they should connect to deal with the isolation that they're often feeling they should unload share what it is that they're going through and then to learn a few skills and and so we teach people relaxation skills and we teach people sleep hygiene and so far. I think in our community over fourteen hundred people of made use of the Doctor Crystal team also established a buddy system pairing healthcare workers with their peers and then they dispatched volunteers to provide psychological support to anyone. Who wants it over the phone but both Dr Crystal and Dr McDonald bring up a more deeply rooted issue about the culture of medicine? You know some of the challenges are that some of the characteristics that we have historically admired most about physicians willing to sacrifice themselves for others their reluctance to complain about things. All those are admirable wonderful traits. But somehow we haven't always inculcated in the values of our medical system. That self care is as much a duty and a responsibility as caring for the patient and my hope is that this is an opportunity to have broader discussion about that. And make it okay for more. Doctors need help to seek help. This pandemic has really tried and tested the best of us but I am thankful that mental health services are available for doctors and medical workers who need it. The most fund was recently set up in honor of Dr Breen. It's called the Doctor Lorna Breen Heroes Fund and it's there to provide mental health services to medical workers. It's my sincere hope that the support that's been Marshall to help healthcare workers in this pandemic will last beyond this moment that they'll become a fixture in the way we think about care. We'll be back tomorrow. Thanks for listening while you do your part to be corona virus. America's biopharmaceutical companies are busy. Doing there's there testing existing medicines developing new treatments and vaccines and collaborating with the CDC FDA an NIH. They're working with doctors and hospitals on over two hundred and thirty five clinical trials and ramping up production to ensure these medicines are available. Get the latest updates at Pharma Dot Org Slash Corona virus? That's Ph are M. A. Dot Org Slash Corona virus because science is how we get back to normal.
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Officially Happy Hour I'm so used family carol they have been affected by her work she arguably is one of the pillars of Hollywood but more importantly black Hollywood the in barked on Hollywood for the most part the only roles that black women were being given whereas maids and normally we were not professional women we were not important to start off with is making sure that we honor someone who has passed yes Miss Diane Carroll Actress Singer Julia Beck came out I believe in the nineteen seventies she also was Dominique Devereaux on dynasty three extremely poignant stories or three really important ingredients that we are going to throw into the mix and I think the most if you are a little older there was a movie Claudine that she was the star of she was also the first black woman to have a prime time we're in now is it allows us to honor people across generations so I think that regardless of whether or not some of these young people know Diane Dynamic Women we weren't wearing furs and pearls and all of that of an all of those accoutrements and I think that not only did she played those types of characters extremely dance are all around entertainer philanthropist you may know her from a different world she played Whitley Gilbert's mom is sick so we before we came in the studio were saying that it is a slow news week but then we realized it wasn't in fact slow I think that there are I agree with you and I think that sometimes we talk bad about social media however I think that the beauty of the era that missile that was like huge but then by the time we really got familiar with her generation she was on a different world playing like I said Whitley Gilbert's mother there has always been a regal miss to who she is there's been a regal miss to the characters in which he's played and at the time in which she the people go down the rabbit hole of her body of work because I think now because we can talk across social media and because of technology it's easier for us to really honor her even if we did not in fact know her work prior to this right because I think I'm probably one of those people that she never came across in my radar even though I was a big fan of different world I watched different world but I did not know who she was until I Kim and I'm so that is Nadia Stanley who used curious referred to she is our guest host today because well that was the woman that she was right so there was always a we a realness to who she was that matched the realness of the characters in which she played on. I know that I'm a little bit Corny and I do not believe in coincidences so I do not think it is a coincidence that an icon of Hollywood but again endeavor yeah so I say that to say that it shows that there have always been people planning to started seeing all the imagery and all that elegance and all the you know everything that she was so and it was a big deal back then because even if you talk to Oh and by the time I got to Diane Carol it was I knew who die in the dynasty because my mom used to watch dynasty and I remember and so there I think is a certain on diva Ns that we talk about and she's one of the originals so I I am actually excited to potentially see poorly an icon of black Hollywood passed away this same year that Tyler Perry studios opens up with the sound stage name America open a three hundred plus Acre modern studio now again I think I need to go down the rabbit hole a little bit for it came out that she was Battling cancer but it was a big loss in entertainment and just in the black community Diana care was one of those people also in a lot of people were paying tribute to her this week and it was for me it was really sad and it's interesting when older and just seeing the back and forth with her Jasmine guy and Patti labelle who played the Wayne's mother that was a a wonderful moment in television for us especially on black people people die but it still was like man she really did a lot and she really represented for us and for that it it really made me sad but I just love the girl Oh you don't know our podcast is taped in Los Angeles so arguably Hollywood was until someone gets married arm hang onto something right just just look at the timing of that we have a black man show runners she was also on Grey's anatomy she played what was the backbone his name honor our heroes within Hollywood and I think that arguably one sometimes people when sometimes when old people say I'm hanging on yeah so in and if you don't know Diane Hero I'm sure your mother your grandmother was a a fan she passed away this week single sound stage is named for a black actor writer director who has contributed to the art form some of which have been lot in Hollywood that is bigger than that can rival Tyler Perry studios to then have sound stages every the entertainment EPI center and arguably all of us have been to movie studio lots there is no movie studios episodes but Shonda rhimes even like it was such an honor to be able to write for Diane Carol because or for Black People and Black Art she ah the outfits in the Glamour and the mink coats and in just our whole presence was a big deal they have billy Dee Williams on show as her hus- and that's my show tools the black doctor named got kicked off the show she was she played pressed embarks mother and she only was maybe there for a couple of recognized in the fullness story some of which who have not right so I'm still having a little bit of Thommo that I was not with the exception of the inauguration of President Barack Obama so I'd be like the inauguration of President Barack Obama it was it it it it's arguably I don't think there has been event this century is it the same skill like as far as the magnitude of what is actually happening but to get those people in one place I think laugh injury Rienzi I built the largest studio not sponsored or partnered with anyone no investors an eh but I'm trying to just enjoy all the pictures aired you rene and will Smith Idris Elba former President Clinton was there just the what I actually struck me maybe even more so than this moment was his speech at the BT awards A couple of months ago where I never been moved by a speech actually as much and it's so funny because Tyler Perry is such a interesting icon I'm building my own table and I want to be an inspiration for other people that look like me to go to where was like like I got Diane saying five heartbeats Robert Townsend was able to get her to play the lead like the lead character's wife and he was like Don for us and I've always kind of been like no like I see what he's doing it's unnecessary voice that isn't getting portrayed and then this would be will in regards to mcdonagh Oprah had legends ball and legends ball now because depending it was catered to a certain glass of black people maybe like the older black family or someone down-time that has rivaled anyone of any color and this machine that we have still hasn't recognized me for X. Y. we'll get when I got I got to play my movie like it was that was unmatched so so you know that you I think most of our lives what's so yeah no you're right but maybe it's not just having them in one place it's also just the ownership and the eight men that it's making and that Tyler Perry is purposely making by saying I've accomplished X. Y. N. C. in such a shortage often a three hundred Acre modern movie studio with multiple sound stages now having the largest sound stage in the country that used to be the spot the thing to do if you were in Atlanta and you didn't go to Tyler Perry by on in our culture because among black people sometimes there's different raising yeah there's different views on Madisha and what Medina has done for us or I just think about the number of people that were employed just in the building of it let alone that he literally on the lot has a replica of the respect that he's do and I don't know if we talk about this all the time I don't know if sometimes are because we all in Atlanta in in a black neighborhood specifically on franchise disenfranchised neighborhood but the fact that he stood up there on that stage and was like when everyone was saying Oscars is so white I was like okay yeah yeah you can go do that but a hand what to your point he has always done but even if we take this as an isolated moment if he had never done anything before other than Harry has been doing this from the beginning so if you'll issue lived in Atlanta or know someone who lived in Atlanta especially when Tyler Perry plays were like it's p that you haven't seen yet to it's like we we we can I think people are honoring him right now but you're saying when he came out and said that not only it and also to let preface literally self-made so self made no outline investors know whatever here's the thing however I say that Tyler Perry ben trailblazing he's been doing this we now see it on the maximums Gail I agree but it's the people who still wanted that that brand of entertainment Kinda like standup comedy like you still Bruce Bruce them you will like but it's kind of it kind of he is actually slapping the face of our government right now and showing them to me I'm just he's safe house for them to rehabilitate them to learn the industry to employ them to be able to live there like ah topping himself and I agree with you I don't think we can even complex at a certain standpoint can you really understand a greatness point we all can have glorious thoughts of how we're going to save the world and we can have all these ideas and all these theories in this but what are you doing and funny ninety nine had an offline conversation and it's funny and I don't think I have the words to to honor and appropriately I still feel like we're not giving him for excellent and have to be excellent there's some that are still to survive there is an excellent sometimes that we take for granted and I do not think that we he built where he built it is key to know and not federate base so the thing about Tyler Perry Tyler White House that is bigger than the White House itself isn't that bigger isn't that bigger bigger oh it's it's less short two hundred thousand to twenty thousand looking at people who are due wing and he is doing and he's just showing so neatly like Oh yes like entertainment you can mix I had kyw's LGBTQ youth that have been displays women who have been sex traffic's basically D. Jakes and a whole church service like the two don't have to be opposites and polarizing you can bring both together especially us as black people you know what I'm saying quality content better this this this so it's kind of the facade is is is being shipped a little initials like palm is to black people like you said it was it was polarizing and embrace this kind of generational and on societal line take your day you're like your mom if you weren't doing it you one doing like so he and for what Medina was so wait listen I don't agree with living in the south then history and I don't Wanna I don't WanNa plant my roots on that you can take it can be it can be on a on a on a board that doesn't negated doesn't take it away we don't have to to the benefit of Hollywood Hollywood will always be Hollywood so the funny thing is if there's a mass exodus and everyone else leaves the people who stay here will actually be more in demand and I and this is why bowed out at him I look up to people who do what you say like asked myself that you know every day like what are you doing though and at a certain standpoint talk is great but it's not a talking year for me so I'm really and he's just showing you and off line we were talking about this is Hollywood really supposed to be the epicenter and is my fellow conversational mixologist. Hey what's up everybody I'm Canadia tie 'em a meal just it's not it's supposed to be the pinnacle and is that supposed to look up to I mean we know like Bollywood and different places around the world that have probably been putting out better every city in every hub has a cadence to it so for instance Bollywood definitely have the texture to Nali would have the texture to it right Hollywood it does is this going to be a working studio this going to be this this this that he's also GonNa have the whole center on the lot where we're here now it's enough opportunity well it will open up opportunities because this is the problem because this is the epicenter chew saturated does not really the texture to it it will be interesting to see what the what the Atlanta texture we'll be in Atlanta look what what types of productions come out of there so the for instance let's just government and it's kind of showing Hollywood is a great way to twisted around I'm not trying to say that it's crab in a barrel where it has to be one or the other and one needs to destroy the other I think that's a great point that both can coexist there there needs to be the whole thing that we we've been talking about Eh we don't have to beef that up for the sake of fair trying to we talked a fair way he he keeps on one upping himself I reached I don't want to move to Atlanta for me like damn now we gotta move it could be benefit the funny thing is it I will say honestly though as someone who is an artist and I don't want the epicenter to shift for and the problem is bad economics so you actually have to spread things out so that everyone to your point it's meant to be where they're meant to be because also to like every okay from tickets conversation that your stylus Hollywood now whoever's meant to stay here we'll stay here and then like that and I love that because even when I said it's a slap in the face history what are we going what's there that's just a personal thing you actually wouldn't have to leave and this is what's funny and this is what happens is if there is a mass exodus yeah you know I love you that's part of the problem but listen to the facts prove our point we don't have to it wasn't a ninety it was right wait wait no no it was the early two thousands of times bigger than last couple years in the industry is representation matters and diversity and you know people not getting the proper opportunities so when you open up this huge we'll house yeah people in Hollywood I still gonna be working still going to be this but it's just there's more projects to work on one hundred percent and authority of black show started because you are there is about to be a brand new renaissance because we're already seeing it that's about to come amount of businesses and individuals that are about with you intellectually and arguably agreed with you emotionally and spiritually a couple years ago now that I'm actually doing an inventory of who a position of power so number one number two the irony is the original sin okay arguably the original San was when we also the the whole idea of like of being in a certain epicenter create certain types of innovation and literally like I'm getting that I'm like stuttering less than so if you are in Atlanta Pre Tyler Perry studios and you are an actor out of their people lying and even if in hopefully this studio will change stigma the stigma around the quality of actors entertainment in Atlanta has the perception of being that's on the entire country and because we built it there's a certain aspect I think what is happening is were reclaiming just like reclaiming our time we're reclaiming our land thing is coincidence that obviously both you and I are from the north and Emil is from the South and obviously not a year from the north as well so this is the irony in this situation as I I who has power and where they live and what they're able to do the black people in the south are doing it especially in the Atlanta area so and look at them and I say this to say this right now knowing people who are in Atlanta in the business and who are here as well and at the same rate that they have in in Atlanta and when they do those individuals are held to be accountable because there are more black people in or progressive individuals it's not so little when move right I wouldn't unless I had to the point where I was year round working with me being like you know what and most of the black show shootout there so all shows the bt shows Shoot out of Anna so this is this is where it gets really tricky for me and it's funny I don't not it was that I you're not the maybe the quality as well however I wouldn't in our country's history of kidnapping
Pandemic Playbook: Subject to Change
"It's Thursday July twenty third. The federal government is rewriting. It's pandemic rulebook again. We start here. As the number of Americans dying in a single day from Corona virus surges past one thousand. You might not need to negative tests before you go back to work a backlog intestines causing the CDC to change. It's guidelines. China ordered out of its consulate in Houston. The first sign that something was up was the fire and smoke coming from the Chinese consulate? What it means for US relations and Trade and Chicago's mayor says what happened in Portland won't happen here. We don't need federal troops. We don't need unnamed secret federal agents why the president is sending reinforcements now after years of deadly violence. From ABC News this is start here. I'm Michelle Franson. Good Morning Brad's off today. The covid nineteen outbreak, not letting up grip on public health or the economy, a new round of weekly jobless claims due out this morning for the past seventeen straight weeks in filings have topped one million. Meanwhile, they're demanding an extension of six hundred dollar weekly federal unemployment benefits. To right now. Regardless of people want to go back to work across the country, infections are on the rise with uncontrolled spread and hotspots states like Arizona. Texas and Florida Florida becoming the current epicenter in the US more than nine thousand new cases in the twenty four hours, available ICU beds in the state, declining cases surge California to seen a new single day record for positive cases, nearly thirteen, thousand or sober reminder of why we. We put on that mask mandate here in the state of California and with each day we learn more about this persistent virus, how and who it infects and changes along with the rules to help keep us up to date. ABC's coordinating producer and Florida has been tracking it and the CDC changing the number of days adults who have tested positive for covid nineteen and how they should isolate. What are those changes and why now? Well so the testing in this country is under serious strain, and we've known this for a while. Thirteen states now reporting issues with testing, availability and access that includes Arizona were one third of the Cova tests are coming back positive. Is it worth waking up at midnight to be out here before one am? I don't have a choice. Because you don't have insurance current. They're trying to find ways to reduce that strain. One of the things that they're looking at is the studies that say your symptoms might matter with how long you are contagious so in the past. If you've tested positive, there's a recommendation that you need to negative tests before you can return out into the world and right now I'm being told to isolate for fourteen days from the day when my symptoms really presented, but now they're basically recommending that you pay attention to your symptoms, and if you don't have symptoms, only isolate for ten days. And then if you do have some symptoms, you stay at home ten days after your symptoms began and then twenty four hours after your fever has broken, the CDC says data shows. Most adults are no longer contagious after that period, but people with compromised immune systems could still pass the virus for up to twenty days. They're hoping that that reduces the strain somewhat on the the testing capacity, and these are guidelines for the less serious cases right? That's right, so if you're seriously ill, you're probably in the hospital and that means that you might be contagious longer, so you're gonNA follow your doctor's orders. This is for people who are writing this out at home. Where a mask, socially distance repeatedly wash your hands. The President Changed Courses Week, taking on a more serious tone about the virus, backing up those mask recommendations from his health experts on the coronavirus task force. How important is that message from the top? When much of the nation is dealing with those cases and hospitalizations right Michelle that was a really interesting thing to see that trump has tweeted out. This week, the picture of himself wearing a mask We hadn't seen that before, and he said you know I'm patriotic. I'm getting used to the most and the reason is. Think about patriotism. It helps I. Think gives a lot of GOP officials out in estate, some political cover to start to really try to force these mass, and this has been the advice for a long time so central that we were mash statewide in Ohio to contain the spread of this virus. On Wednesday that the GOP governors of Ohio and Indiana jumped in face coverage can. And will help us blunt this increase. Now we've got more than half of the US, states have a mask mask mandate in place So that's a really big change anything that potentially can help and that certainly can potentially help. Is a good thing. I have no problem I. carry it I. Wear it I'm not sure that that would have quite happened. As quickly if president trump hadn't changed his position on that. I would like to see the schools open open one hundred percent and will do it safely. We'll do it carefully yawn. The states are grappling with also trying to reopen school school district, still weighing the risks depending on what's going on in their state and district and Florida we've seen teachers challenged the governor legally on opening classrooms or remote learning. Can we expect to see more pushback? I think absolutely on every front of this. We want to be back more than anything else, but we can't and we need. Need to start treating this as a compromise between two political parties, I think schools is absolutely the part of the country. We're GONNA see most debate related to Kovic, we can best fight the virus by having a healthy functioning society, and that especially includes our schools. Let's not let fear. Get the best of US July. It was really the month that you know I'm calling it the hangover month. It's the month where we seeing the most damage done in these parts of the country that didn't take. Take precautions and now school districts are looking at this and saying we don't know how we can open up riding. Four hundred additional janitors to our school is not enough. We have more than four hundred schools. That's less than one person. This all comes down to You know how how seriously did we take it? As a nation to put ourselves in a position where we could open up schools and the reality is, we didn't do enough. We didn't do what we needed to do months ago to prepare. Prepare ourselves for a lower transmission rate, so kids could get back in the schools. Cobo County Public Health, putting out new school guidance on masks, recommending schools require students, staff and visitors to wear face, covering it great for us just in terms of passing each other in the halls, but especially our high risk employees. We do think we need to do more than CDC has said. If everyone were to wear a mask, we would drive this into the ground in two four six eight weeks as their prediction. That gives it a bit of time. I mean they don't know exactly what would happen, but they know that there are many parts of the country that the bars are still open that people are still on the beaches, and so long as that is happening, things will not look good in fall. Yeah, those goalposts for the virus and how we adapt and react also are still changing an thank you, thank you. Get Out in an unprecedented move. The US ordered the Chinese consulate in Houston Texas. Close up the trump administration giving the Chinese government seventy two hours to leave the consulate. They occupied since nineteen seventy nine. To quote protect the country's intellectual property. The private information of Americans at sudden move follows the US charging to Chinese hackers with stealing company trade secrets globally and targeting firms working on corona virus vaccines China is using cyber intrusions as part of its rob replicate and replace strategy to technological development. There's just some talk in China. That may be the transparency isn't everything that it's? It's going to be new trussell. We're GONNA. Know everything we need to know China I. DO I do I have a great relationship with President Xi. We just signed probably the biggest deliver ever made. It's been six months since the CDC confirm the nation's first coronavirus case one day after that president trump was in Davos. Telling CNBC didn't see the outbreak as a threat, do you have you been briefed by the CDC words about a pandemic? Not at all and we're. We have a totally under control. It's one person coming in from China. ABC's. Connor Finnegan covers the State Department and joins US, Connor Secretary of State Mike. POMPEO was in Denmark yesterday. What did he say about the US shutting down the consulate? Michelle to Mike Pompeo laid out exactly what you said. He tied this closure of the Chinese consulate in Houston directly to that indictment yesterday of those two Chinese officials, we were setting out clear expectations for how the Chinese Communist Party is going to behave and when. We're going take actions that protect the American people protect our security our national security. He said that it was enough that the US was now taking a stand against. Economic espionage, their theft of intellectual property years of this kind of leader, two Chinese nationals were named in an eleven count indictment that accused him of carrying out a global cyber intrusion campaign for the last ten years. Those who officials are very unlikely to ever see the inside of a US courtroom. So this was really a more tangible way to exact punishment. We heard from the top US diplomat for Asia as well yesterday assistant, Secretary David still while he said in an interview that. That this consulate was the quote Unquote Epi Center of China's subversive behavior. He didn't provide any examples of that, but again it is a place where China is alleged to have conducted some of this economic espionage. This isn't the first time the US has ordered diplomats to leave the country Russian. Diplomats also expelled and during that rush to leave burn documents. Are we hearing that now with China? The first sign that something was up. Was the fire and smoke coming from the Chinese Kahn's. Videos posted anonymously social media last night show an orange glow and smoke rising from the compound. The Chinese government would have gotten notification from the department ahead of time, and so Chinese officials there acted quickly. They only have seventy two hours now to vacate the facility, and so they started burning documents. We met up with consul-general tie way inside the Chinese consulate on Montross were he's grappling with the fact that he may be the fourteenth and final. CHINESE CONSUL-GENERAL IS HOUSTON BRAND UNGER. You! Because I I. Have done nothing wrong. Firefighters in Houston actually called to the scene, but the officials there wouldn't let them on the premises we do not. Enter without consent, unless there is a threat to health and safety, I knew living documents and is really hurried. Moment seems like something out of a movie, but as you said, it's a movie that we've seen before I've lived on this block for eight years I've never seen the chimney going and I thought. Why is it burning on the hottest day of the year? Firefighters confirmed smoke was coming from. From a fireplace, which was burning something inside the Russian consulate after the US formally accused Russia of interfering in the presidential election, and then had his own downward spiral with us Russian relations, there were fires in the alleyways of DC behind Russian diplomatic facilities as the US kick them out of their economic special interest office in DC and some other facilities, so it's a really strange but standard practice. From China. They could've stopped and they didn't. They stop them from going into China, but they didn't stop it. From going to the rest of the world, president trump continues to blame China for this global exposure of the virus. The Chinese Embassy in the US issuing a statement calling on the US to revoke that one else where they saying about Chinese US relations. It's clear that the phase one deal that president trump has touted is all but dead, essentially at this point and I think we'll see him. Continue to harder and harder actions against Beijing as far as closing additional embassies. It's always possible you see what's going on. There was a fire closing. A diplomatic mission is a big deal. It's not. A no turning back moment, but it does damage the relationship. It hurts. The people to people ties anyone in the US in the southern US who wants to get a visa to go to China? Now has to go to one of those other offices across the US number one. Denuclearization that was done in Singapore and. I think he's a man of his word, so I have been so hard for the US North Korea to negotiate for example a among other reasons, it's partly because they don't have an office in each other's countries, and and the fact that we're closing diplomatic missions, it really sends a signal to the population of both countries that this relationship is turning uglier and uglier as you mentioned relations that can take years to rebuild. Connor. Thank you. Thanks Michelle. NEXT UP ON START HERE federal forces are heading to more American cities, but why? Chicago's the latest. That's story ahead. President Trump and attorney general William Bar announced they're deploying federal forces to more cities around the country. You've seen them already on the streets of Portland Oregon this past week. Were protests have escalated into pockets of unrest just after two thirty in the morning you can see all that gas there. In the middle of the intersection, we've also seen fireworks and authorities just shot rubber bullets in this direction, the federal teams wearing unmarked military style uniforms sent to protect federal property and grounds, perhaps though citizens have suffered more from the medicine violent crime. Then the wonderful people of Chicago city I know very well now. Federal law enforcement is being sent to Kansas City Missouri and soon Albuquerque and Chicago, but not due to protest the FBI ATF. Da Us. Marshal Service and Homeland Security will together be sending hundreds of skilled law enforcement officers to Chicago to help drive down violent crime. ABC's Alex Perez joins us. He's covered the gun violence in Chicago over the years and efforts to combat it. Alex the trump administration says it's getting to a public safety mission to help stop the increase in violence. What our local leaders and the mayor saying about the presence of federal forces? Yeah, that's right the shell and the mayor here Lori lightfoot says if the federal agents are headed to Chicago to do that to help curb the violence, and she welcomes that help, but she says if they're coming to do anything similar to what has happened in Portland where it appears at some of these federal agents, according to some officials were silencing protesters then she does not want to see that help. COME TO CHICAGO. We're going to take you now. To Chicago where this past weekend at least fifty two people were shot, eight of them killed in a wave of violence across the city. What is? Is Going on there? Here's Chicago has been coping with violence and the violence problem for several years, but this year things seem to be escalating, and despite a stay at home order and stepped up police patrols. Chicago experienced its deadliest Memorial Day weekend and five years. Murders are this week fifty one percent right now compared to this time last year, shooting incidents up almost fifty percent near the area of seventy fourth and Stewart shots rang out as the grief stricken stood near the corner of seventy nine carpenter, fifteen people, including the twin sister of the man. The service was four was also wounded just recently. Shooting outside a funeral home left fifteen people injured. Authorities say it was a case of gang retaliation a shootout that happened. A busy street, but nonetheless they were innocent people who had nothing to do with the incident who were caught in the middle of all of Ed. Police say they did have some intelligence, so they had to squad cars at the funeral home in a tactical team in the area, but it didn't prevent the shooting. We don't need federal troops. We don't need unnamed secret. Federal agents officials here in Chicago are saying if they are truly coming here to help and the violence to work with the US Attorney's Office to set up DA FBI ATF. Operations where they're taking down drug dealers. Getting guns out of the hands of violent criminals that they want to see that happen, they welcome it. The president is trying to divert attention from his failed leadership on Covid nineteen. He has failed. He has failed. He has failed some of said that the president accusing him of during the coronavirus briefing that he is going into these cities, including possibly Chicago and Albuquerque to distract from his handling the pandemic the Justice Department says it's well within its powers to move forward with federal troops Alex, what are the Knicks with no marked uniforms and some of these escalations. We've seen in other cities. Well you know it has become for the White House for President Trump's. Rallying point for his base the cities that he's talking about for the most part all have to happen to be run by democratic mayors and we're sending them help, but we're really waiting for them to call for the big help for the big numbers for the numbers of people that we have ready, willing and able, so it has become a politically charged issue. But here's the Caveat Michelle this has happened before the DA. The FBI ATF has come in Chicago and other cities before to try to work on some of these problems and what we've seen in the past is that violence does drop, but it's very temporary trump as soon as those federal officials leave. And those big teams specialized units are not working together the violence returns, and that's really what has people fed up? They wanted to see a problem a solution that's going to be long term and it raises the stakes in an election year, and also for Americans dealing but this pandemic Alex. thank you, thank you. And one last thing, it's July a time when baseball seasons should be in full swing, but corona virus shutdown sports including regular play for America's favorite pastime. Today baseball returns with Fewer Games and a fever pitch of new rules for all teams stay and play within their geographical region along with testing testing testing for players and staff. Home runs seats cardboard cutouts. Fans allowed in the seats, Major. League baseball is using high tech to pipe in the roar of the crowds long with other stadium sounds players from one hundred and sixty first street here on the. Using the video games. Sony's MLB the show. Yeah the video game on playstation, and we tested it in the ballpark. He is great I mean it was much better than we expected. Actually Chris Maryniak is the VP of MLB strategy technology and innovation. He says along with the steady chatter in the background. Cheers, the audio engineer can not sounded again. So it's three two full bases loaded ninth-inning kinda sounds might hear then. mcgann! Deep. V. We have sounds that you would hear for Homerun run-scoring base hit those kind of things eating off the game for the Los Angeles. Second baseman twenty six chase monthly. We didn't provide any booze intentionally. We have some kind of you know. Maybe some soft murmurs or other things that might be less than grumbles is a good way to describe it. Thrown first before out of stadium, I have not and I'm quite nervous about it. Don't worry about he bounce it. There's no desire to say you'll be good to go you're you're? Corona Virus Task Force member Dr Anthony Fauci chosen to throw out the ceremonial first pitch at the Washington nationals game. The World Series Champs taking on the New York Yankees on the West Coast, Los Angeles dodgers host the San Francisco giants at our first Grand Slam I think it'll be a pretty interesting experience to see the crowd come alive. Without actually seeing anybody in the stands it will. Bring us back to where we all remember last year before all this crazy stuff happened. And I think gives us a little bit of a sense of normalcy that the world's coming back to normal and we can still play. Baseball can still sound like it normally does, and in due time everything will get back to the way it used to be sounds of the season or set the baseball still has some drama play out the Toronto Blue Jays once again. Looking for a place to land, the team was headed to PNC park in Pittsburgh for its home base during Games, but the Pennsylvania Department of Health Knicks those plans yesterday. And that's where we leave it more on all these stories ABC News, dot, com or the ABC, news APP. I'm Michelle Franzen Brad's back tomorrow later.
Liverpool Stumble Into Title Parade
"I don't welcome insulates edition of ESPN FCA SPN possum. Dan Thomas I promised myself today. Stop by saying. There's a lot going on. There really is a lot going on later on in the program, Toilet Miller. Were we talking about what it's like within that bubble? The Minnesota United Goalkeeper very very candidate in what he had to say. We'll also be hearing once again. From Stefan officer and Hercules Gomez reacting to the news that they have been more positive tests in Orlando looking ahead to the last his back tournament, also alley and frank will be joining me later on to talk about Real Madrid's at one nil victory over Taffy and whether or not the winning penalty should have been given Schachter. Axing lyrical about. Eleven games in a row now they've won after a big to victory over Napoli today, but we'll start in the premier league Manchester City's four nil demolition of Livable Craig. Burley Steve Nicol and DOT WITH ME Steve Big deal. Know. Alyssa not disappoint, and it's as deflate and. But it's no big deal and really should we be surprised? You know Liverpool war on heightened. Anyway, and we're playing against a great team. And they just outplayed, but you know what. After the next game when they weren't well before Gotten Craig I saw you on twitter, talking about how this is taking the shine of slightly the title. Yeah Yeah was trying. Trying to encourage those edits that will suggest that not go away. Hide under a rock. Liverpool for fifteen twenty minutes. Were the Liverpool. That will come to admire, but then I just thank God. For you know war subconsciously. Doesn't really Martin and the. It doesn't for them and and some sense from a professional standpoint, the steam engine you don't. You don't ever want to have that happen as a player. In the League wrapped up nearly as you have then subconsciously unless. Pledge Not can say they've been celebrating. And some wager in this lockdown social destin's and still managed to enjoy this, and so the preparation has been affected is on top of that. You know we know set here agreed site. We know we'll set. These problems are done set. These problems have been the catastrophic mistakes have made defensively. They can open up any team. You're never meant that neither team that for seven days as we celebrate within the League you agree in. Yeah absolutely I there was a god Ivana formed by the Manchester City plans level, and quite rightly, too, but that was all. They began to give them tonight. I think they wanted to just make a point to live appropriate is little point and admire reflection. Watching that was it felt unreal. It felt like a friendly. It didn't have the intensity really of Manchester. Manchester Society Liverpool game as we understand it, it'd be end. It didn't really matter being Liverpool picture full strength team They wouldn't have wanted anything like that to happen, but it did and all. I can say really. Is that Liverpool? Party might have been a heck of a lot better than we all saw. Because the defendant in particular had double vision. Steve. What's that income? which is clarify that you're not broadcasting this show from inside the show or Cuba? benching cuts from living. Off. Of criticism of the date goal. If Mrs Dark appears from behind those curtains. I promise you. Stephen. Stevie. Stevie USB the situation before where you want. And having to go through the motions he must be. Yeah the one that comes to was way by two three Liverpool dropped the title up. We're like four games to go. And of course I'm I've just joined the team and I'm trying to get and so I'm I'm all on edge I'm I'm I'm coaching trated and that same team that completely dominated dot year. Finished the season with with like. Three defeats a two defeats, two draws, and then score any goals and. Just was was a shell of what had been previously, and these were these were experienced center national players who had been through the ringer renew. It was all about. And it didn't. Didn't really have that much. There was no wedge. There was no edge with the coaching staff and so. Particularly me I shouldn't have been surprised. It Didn't really matter in the end, but I'm intrigued to get your thoughts on the penalty Steve Did. You think it was the right decision. Listen I can see why the referee gave it because. Y-. Gomez on was across the front, and how to hold of of of Sterling, no question. The problem I have is that and the same tussle they were having sterling had half of Gomez Short, and he's left hand holding them all. So that's the only thing that annoys me I can see why it was given. A little dive, either by the way I don't see how you can die when somebody's holding onto your belly button. But I can see why it was governed. And as you said previously, the truth is the titles wrapped up. So why get bent over of boater? Didn't Oh, I'm pleased about that. I think just about. Steve. He thought it was a penalty. Craig you agree. Yeah I think it was. It was because just because the possession Gomez. The continuation of the arm. Across the body I yeah, it then theatrically goes down, but I think. The referee was just about your. What the decision. Anyway up point so It was just another one of the decisions that many of the Liverpool player's made the they. They haven't really been making season. I think now about some are we saw and eero child's in about and making decisions. He hasn't made yet. We saw money. You know a couple of times You know clearly through with an opportunity never even controlled the ball. You never even GonNa. Talk on one of them, so these kinds of things are on top of top. We should remember that monster hell of a lot of stay style last season the. Team. All the favorites to win be Champions League and so when you go there. Can you have baked in half-hearted? Don't be surprised to give you a better. I don't really know what else to say about this game in. Anything. Obviously. The bottom line is this wins and I cut the gap between Liverpool Manchester City to twenty points. That's the big picture, really somehow season role that talent troll that brilliant technical play Manchester be contrived to lose eight premier league gains going into tonight Liverpool. Of course it only lost one. Now it's too, but there's no doubt who the best side was this season. It was Liverpool and I. Think really what happened. Tonight will be looked at just as a postscript when all is said and done. Kevin Point of the best player those. difficult, too. Difficult to. Are you talking about the season? Yes. Are you talking about this game? No season. While KLICINA. I think he's up there. In a an a an a group of Van, Dyke, money in hand doesn't think I think he's good with them. but I don't think he did enough. I think he's just going to get by one of the other three because of. How great the All wear out grid team was a thank, thank you know as you know. The Brown had some engine problems was season i. think it's hard to look past some. Eleven player when you're looking at it, I think somebody WHO's made. The biggest difference for me. A key teams has been Saudi-omani. Joke Henderson's been fantastic incessant, but I think level of leaned on money quite a lot and he has really failed to deliver, and I think you could be strong argument. In front of you. They said he's been the best play this season, but of course one. Okay, let's move onto the earlier game, shall we? Knighted take on. The Spurs Shepherd United Winning by three goals to one. It was one when hurricane looked like he equalised however volatile. Take a look, and it was a humble in the build up It was the right decision. If you're going by the letter of the law in a lot of outrage about lisp, really, can you blame? The officials were just daring to the rules when they. Yeah I think I had to actually give that on under the letter of the law. As you say Dan because there was a handball, of course, the the ruling is that if it's accidental or deliberate, it doesn't matter which in the build up to the goal than it has to be disallowed, but for crying out loud We've gotta get to a point. West and common sense applies here. It was pretty clear although it wasn't given that Lucas more was fouled. That's the only reason he was on the floor and the ball. It is hand the goal. The goal should have stood by reasons of common sense, but. Neighbor unable to apply the common sense of it. That's another thing they've got to look at really the International. Board, who decide the laws of the game? Tranquil she makes riddle. Drives me nuts honest drives me nuts, because here we have. A scenario where a moral running him, we know he's quick is felt. Is Heading to the deck superfast. They aren't as it does. I don't deny the ball comes off his hand accidentally either by putting A. Kicked against him, but the boggs end smashed against an opposition plant as we know. Kane schools and the result is a free kick Scheffel united. I mean even that was wrong because the results have been a freekick. To talk them because there was no advantage gained. Teens point behalf the people that are set in these IFA means. Have to have a real faint about. Further down the line when making these the these laws up because. You know if a player accidentally strikes a ball with the arm on his own and gains an advantage. I understand up, but we're. The ball is filed out year you know from. A yard and a half away, and you can do absolutely nothing I know you don't go into crime from. Then the Husky right they have to rewrite law because the advantage was gained by the player and just crazy, and I understand the frustrations, but the going to find a way. And this summer is going to be a short summer as we know for the football season. To find a way to get some clarification qualification I run these stupid, horrendously stupid laws around accidental on bowl. This law was introduced Iran's handball in the Champions League last season ankles, which went four Spurs TV. What do you think I'll be honest? I'm a little conflicted thea because. You know we Kinda complain and we've been complaining for years about. How rules don't intepretation when it's not taper petition, it can go all sorts of ways. The one thing I like about this through. This is really clear. You can't interpreter it's it's. It's plead simple face. No, you can dislike. And then every rule was going to be a situation where it, Qena. Goes in the face of the law, and this is one of those. This is one small one in my opinion. I I think the cleaner. The laws are not all going to be loved by everybody, but if it's clear, and we'll know the rules, then you then you have to. With the Rosen and abide by them so in some ways. It's good I can see how. A lot people hitter. But for me I I'm against particular away from that incident Spurs with terrible after after that goal was disallowed Sheffield United kicking on to win the game convincingly Joe's had to say about the second half when. You have to be ready to cope with negative moments and go to the last minute now. I know more the profile of my players. I felt it. I Fed that in the second half. We wouldn't be strong enough to cope. Craig. Well you're not. Got Bigger problems than even he felt when he first put his Bechtol through the training ground because he's made some decisions and one of those decisions is is is a partnership of Sanchez Dire. No, I don't see. As a midfield player, although he's played, their played well, thanks, but I don't see him consistently as a midfielder. On recent performance I. Don't see him as her father, so I think he's got some big issues. Marino is back for that will get you. The suck and its current climate bought four. We'll get you the suck, and they're making but decisions, but hey, they've hired mon.. The not going to have a big budget and the summer. They've got some. Attack players they've got some talented players, and that's up to him to mold dementia say that can be better than what the lesson. What happened to the Jersey Marina comes to the club and automatically were more organized, and we're defensively and how to be whereas it will not see in. Their hearts or watch TV, as out in the moment. Yeah, I mean creeks craigslist put when he still through the door and say what did was he followed with these big, both instead I'd like these players these these players I wanted and seven seven months layer, does it? He said all this finding over these plows. ABS Schori sometimes. You Go, you keep it closed and he's talking. He's talking to yourself into the players. Mutiny like Lake Manchester. United, he's thrown them under the boss, completely, saying basically saying the Gutless, and and the not strong mentally. I mean. You've got talented players and as a coach. When you take over the site, you get a job because the need organize and. Restart. And he hasn't done any of that cincy when they are. taught horse per play, no different to the foster. He was in the. Defeat against a team in Sheffield United. Who for talent can't much Tottenham's Tottenham starting the eleven before Organization for her for mid solidly for every other thing. We absolutely cover them. I really enjoyed that dramatic pause we got from Stevie. Don T I was I was at the end of hoping for beggar. The mutiny. Got There in the end. In if on the Spurs, Fan I'm finding it very difficult to find anything positive. It's look forward to at the moment. where, you've heard about the defensive problems from Craig and Stevie, but what about the attacking work tonight? I don't think Henderson. The goalkeeper had a safe to make Duffy. They had seventy percent of the bone spurs, but you could read book in the time. He took them to develop an attack tonight. that was slow a slow witted. The defense you've heard about. The mocking was was shocking. They will go watching. They were switching off. It was absolutely shopping performance from them and Jessica Green. You talking about the plus he picked them. He's at Toby Al Virus is probably the best defender that got on the books on the bench never got on so just a Meridia has to address that. They look like they're going backwards. Frankly to me, talk about what shepherd united were right back to what they were before the lockdown, they were absolutely terrific, and they had a few guys out injured as well and that right back in European contention. We'll toby. There was a clearly wanted it. And as you as you well know, so, that's another one to Stevens point about, please. He either wanted to sign or said. He knew they were very very good. Before we go there, listen, let's get to the big picture here in. He trotted out a hurricane starts. On the starts for other players played on the him over the years a week or two ago I've taught him hearts dot. Make any European football tall, nice looking at a huge possibility at the moment the way they're playing Ho. Do you sell? To one of the best and most so after strikers European. WHO's on age and coming off an injury season? Who's needs what is going to have to make some big decisions because? You got to make Hay while the Sunshine John and. Other people come up, come up the ladder and all of a sudden. You're not the flavor of the month anymore. So that would the worry and taught in funds can come on oil. Hardy wants to stay Tottenham Hurry to. Wants to do that highly doesn't want it just above mid-table. Meet the Oscar Tick Nice where they are at the moment. That's a big concern for potent. Ho Do you sell this? Projects? If you WANNA call it not to one of the best strikers. Verbal, who could walk anti most other teams major major problem along with the managing as for Talk Hawks? For why would he want to say surely just seeing everything that has transpired over the last three months. Marino and you got homeless. Question is I'm vision if he does stay at Spurs, your I can't think of a reason why. And I think. Another club. Let's see I'm on city. Who have money or remind united? Even who have money then you can, you can convince yourself if you're a homeboy that they can spend money and revamped those team, the truth is. He's not going to do that. He's going to try and get bargains as they've done over the over the last five six years. and. Served them well to a point. But that catches up with you and is catching up with them right now because they can't revamp this team, a don't believe the enough money to do. And, so why would hurricane want to stay? I can't think of any reason whatsoever, and even when they've spent money, they spend it badly and don't. Ballet is an absolute nightmare. That's being a complete passed of course spurs spending money on him last summary in. This club is incomplete and a disarray at the moment. Seems like that, doesn't it? And that falling further and further behind in the race for a European place next season and The guys are right the I. Don't think that got a lot of money to spend Daniel. Levy is notoriously miserly when it comes to doing deals, and that is a very good point. Craig makes I think about Harry K new is a spurs boy. He's he's. He's part of that that club. They brought him through, and he wouldn't want. Just leave them in the lurch, but there comes a point in his career where he will start to get a bit restless if they can't even offering many European football to go with his with his obvious talents, that is watch this space situation. I think probably the name. Thank you very much. You can have a shower now, but we'll be Astra time. Remind. Lots of stuff on the website looking Liverpool winning the title including fascinating article by Mark Often about the rebirth under yergin club. Is your money not sure what to do with itself right now at ally, they'll help it save for the future with their smart savings tools. Bucket your money for the things that matter most analyze you're spending and save automatically all on top of competitive rate for all things money. You deserve an ally. Visit A. L. L. Y. dot com slash savings for more INFO ally. Do it right ally bank member FDIC. Real Madrid stressor leads the top of league table to four points after a one nil victory over otaphilly today. Elian Franco saw me to talk about this. Ali This wasn't exactly a performance of champions today. Well. I disagree with that Dan. I think this is a performance of a team that knows what it takes what it is required to be. So I think Ron realized very early on that. This was not the sort of game in which they were just going to be able to pass the ball around and display or the older talent, and they were going to be explosive in the attack. That was not going to be the case because his Taffeta does not lend themselves to do that out on the field. They're gonNA. Make it about fifty fifty challenges and duels, and second balls, physicality and grinding out a result and. Say well all right well. That's the way we're GONNA have to play this game then so be it. We're not GONNA be able to play through them so therefore. We're going to have to five with that. And it shows the flexibility of a team that can win games by outplaying somebody, but can also win gained by out fighting somebody, and while it is not sexy. It's not entertaining. It's not pretty to watch is not what you would expect. Or a champion team light lead but NBN. It's effective. It's efficient is pragmatic is practical. It's everything that this team has been over the course of the season, and certainly since the restart. They've done just enough to win games just enough to get three points, but that's far better than whatever the Barcelona's doing. Bar Salons thrown away points. Realm continues to get three points at a time gop front. Maybe I should give. Real Madrid more credit for this win. Yes definitely because I was very worried. watching the game to save the could find the key of. Of the game and the school one goal to to win that game and get the three points and I agree with L. E.. He wasn't Nice it was a nice. That's for sure, but it was effective. They did what they had to do. To find to find a way to get the three points but. But you know you need to be to detangle. And taffy did everything they had to do to frustrate Real Madrid to make them clumsy. To make them sloppy at some point, but at the end of the day Madrid found away way again to to to to get the win, and and do well and carry on getting points points in maybe becoming the champion, but yes, it's you need some time to to get dirty and to to be to and to and to work hard to to win games, and some because you're Madrid full of stars that he's going to be pretty a game. You're going to play week in week out penalty frank. I would say yes because I used to see. That I just have a question. Wu creates the contact, is it? Or is it the defender I think is was maybe Damian, but I think he's more caviar going to to towards the defenders leg, but because we saw that becomes a kind of habit, because he's a sixteen yard walks, and because there is a contact, the rest will easily give a penalty, but what happened to cover would actually twice in the first off pushed. From, the from the open to back due to players, and the had no penalty against him. I wonder you know. He I think he made love the the coach of Taffy as well. Yeah, they have a couple of course when they're in the fast, maybe hits advocate about the penalties. The penalty that was awarded dollars. You agree as opposed once the defendant tangles that leg Garba. How is going to make the most of it? See what happens. Who's cutter had so much time and space on the right hand side on that counter attack by the Adelaide that I think you read the defendant who ends up committed the foul I believe eastern anticipating that across is coming, and that's Kinda. How takes that last thoughts? The actually gets away from him. I know he read our thanks well. Maybe I can get to this. But he was already laid to the play, and by him, anticipating across never came, and then trying to react to bad touch by Galahad, he gets there lake out and bag, and then there is no other recourse for the referee, but to see a leg that is yes, as you just mentioned is dangling got to hug goes down, and clearly than one hundred percent penalty. Meanwhile, the talking boss learn, it continues to be about. An anti agreements at the end of course coming out after that draw against that. Let's say that he didn't play more because he stabilizes the team Frank. We also heard thank. Family taken to instagram. To. Talk about set CNN I'm just intrigued to the reaction in France is being over on. With recounts Agrees Man. And sets in. Well? We've fund the comment of the coach completely stupid because if. Greece mind. Coming could destabilize the team why you? You knew that you will have a problem. You knew that grease money's the type of player can be either as a striker meaning own Suarez. Place all. As a number ten Kerr missy. So why do you pick him, so? He's hot to put him on the left side where you need somebody very fast like you had in in in in sometimes like Neymar like the billy, but not at all Greece man. The coming of the father has been criticized as well because he he wanted him to come to what it is son to go to to bustle on our and pushed it. And now we just face where everybody has to be blamed in fact, grysman first because he decided to to bustle on our where he shouldn't for sure. Kiki situation because I think is not the right coach for that type of team because of MRI dealing with an. Old The thing in the dressing room and bustle on because the books Greece's man that was a real mistake, and now Detroit to deal with it, but There's only one issue is agreeing to go next nick summer for next season. Frank thank you very much Siglo. Joining us on the next edition of the show, take give us more insight than what's going on in Catalonia, but for now thanks Franken Alley moved back tomorrow for more. GEICO gets you access to licensed agents twenty four seven, which means that Geico is always there for you. If only everyone was always there for you, like your mom when you fill out really really important paperwork on the first day of a new job name, check birthday. She'll securities thing. Hey, mom, what is my social security number? Mom Mom? Okay let's. Zero zero one seven. Gemini Hashtag done. Always there for you with savings and twenty four seven access to. Meanwhile in Italy, a very good day to be an Atalanta Fan as they beat Napoli by two goals to nil, Romo meanwhile losing against Dudin as they mean Atalanta all, but guaranteed a place in the Champions League next season shack up with me to reflect on that win, they were. This is eleven games now. shocker in a row that they've won and they would burn in again today. Will again. Off the, brilliant. A really weird game down the first stop Atalanta. Despite all many goals, they continue to school leading Syria in that regard. They almost didn't seem interested in talking to was really. Depressed up and then all of a sudden come the second half the opening goal, and and the game just opens up. Napoli have. Tried to get something something else in the game. And Atalanta would then for me at a billion best defended resolutely look very good on the counter-attack, as always had been the only thing. The only criticism about that is where where was that in the first forty five, but tactical an overall. They go this absolutely right, so you look at the teams. They've piece in this Ron. Klein Credible Napoli being the latest, not be at first off. Okay, second half. Obviously there'd be disappointed with that performance. Yeah listen Napoli I I. Thought had to get a goal in in the first half if A. To win this and that, and that's exactly how it played out the dominated possession without really creating a whole lot of chances to Atalanta's credit in that food forty five despite my criticism of them. Napoli showed that they threw everything, but the kitchen sink about the land and they stood up to that test. New. Game there for the taking. A rather easy opening goal Napoli trying to play the ball out of the back. Get dispossessed, find themselves or at sea with everybody desperately onto position. And, then I as I say the game. The game was all Atlanta's not. Only have themselves to blame and Atalanta. Just continue to go from strength to strength. This seems money back the kind of This. And then as the. League bubble and going to do for them. Is it too much for them? I did they continue astound. How strong could they get no shack? Twenty two in the champions, the there in the quarter-finals three wins. Kings of Europe with. yeah. A long shot back at that and then listen I understand the. Around Atlanta just giving poor defensively, they have been and their general. Style players. And outscored the opposition, but unto issuing wear again a as good as they will in I, often in particular, I'm as resolute as as they will run one game up maybe this. Maybe they can get it done. Am I gonNA put my money there. No, but if you give me a tender Dan, a might just. Do that in my life. I give you the tennis. Well. You never know what we could win. He had done. We know exactly what we could wait to onto this. Explicit Hover that. Right Yeah Rights Shaikha of believe that. You anywhere. It's GonNa be fascinating to see how they kick on in the shackles very much. Sarah continues this weekend events against Torino swallow lead chain. That's you against, AC? Milan that's the three games for you on ESPN plus out on Sunday into taking on a Bologna Napoli Against Roma. The late game for Atalanta their away, looking to continue this fine run against category. Not long now until the is back to and kicks off in Florida. Jeff Carlisle and Stephan FSR. I've gone inside the bubble. They've written article by. You can check it out over on the website while Stephan is with us. Now also is heavily going. To start with you first. What's the latest? Well! Unfortunately, we had a another positive test confirmed this morning. That is for the Columbus crew. Now. The entire traveling party of the Columbus crew received testing this morning, and now they are quarantined until they receive those tests later tonight. And Look, there is a lot of concern from players that are already. Embedded in this bubble and we spoke to Minnesota. United Goalkeeper Tyler Miller, who kind of expressed some concern. It's been challenging to be honest There's a lot of uncertainty. Every day we wake up and we're. Not. Sure what's going to happen, we don't know. Whether! There's going to be a case on our team. There's going to be other cases on people that we've been in contact with so. Trying to to manage that mentally I, think it is very challenging for a lot of guys. That I've that I've spoken to from around the League here, so we're religious trying to be as safe as we can here, but at the same time we. Understand that. We're in this secluded environment that is supposed to be safer us, but now there are a handful of cases here and there's only. Six or seven teams here, so we're really unsure what's going to happen when. All Twenty six teams do get here and we actually have every single person in analysts here. Uncertainty is the word the keyword there that he mentioned that we're up to ten players that have tested positive and one coach, and that's Inbetween FC Dallas and the Columbus crew but I will give mls credit where credit is due, the are being pretty transparent with the data of these tests and all the tests. That's being that are being. That are being. That are happening here inside the bubble every other day with a release. Showing us that data, so they are being transparent, but still we're seeing the issue so early on, and it is concerning. He's. With us as well her. This is a very fluid situation you know. Trying to work this out as it goes, know they've taken a beating from a lot of people over the last few days, but to be fair. They weren't to know that this was going to happen. No yes, and no I mean no, because you can't predict this type of thing, but you're also going into an EPI center of what is this virus in the United States you know it's not the most controlled environment in Florida alone in Orlando. This is why these teams in major league soccer teams who are not there right now are delaying their departures to. To get into the Orlando Greg. Vanney himself said he expected more of a controlled environment, and that's why they wanNA control what they can right now in Toronto. It's a scary situation. No, no matter how you slice it. These players Tire Miller talked about the uncertainty and I thought he spoke very well. A lot of these players are concerned about their situations within. Within their own teams let alone other teams I mean these teams, these players they travelled together. They dined together. They train together and they also share a weight room with two other major league soccer teams. You're bound to come in contact with other players from other teams, the uncertainty of it all is a scary thing and I understand major league. Soccer's taking A. A beating and they're doing the proper testing. They're going to be tested every single day. These players who have been exposed testing ever every other day for the ones who don't come up positive, so it is a very fluid situation, but it is what it is at this point, and we can't ignore that they're an EPI center of what is this virus? And we anywhere near MLS addressing, maybe looking to reschedule this tournament staffing up. From everything I've been told. The MLS is moving forward with this tournament. There are notice cushions to to cancel or postpone it as of now, but we know that it's very fluid and really the data's what's going to determine whether that's the next step or not It seems to be meanwhile her and I know you put this out on twitter. If you had enough money nmls you're going to find any excuse not to go to this tournament. I didn't it's complicated I think you're losing to Carlos. Listened. There are two reasons you can opt out of this tournament now. One is a medical exemption. If you have a pre existing medical condition, the other is if your partner is pregnant, which Carlos Velez partner is pregnant pretty far along that falls into that category, but if you're Carlos Vela, who by the way opted not to play in a world? Cup for Mexico for. Different reasons, but if you gave up a World Cup, and that wasn't maybe important to. You didn't WanNa do it and your wife is pregnant and you've banked over fifteen million dollars in two and a half seasons two seasons because you've had two weeks this season. What incentive do you really have to go? Most players don't have that luxury. Most players don't collect the check that Carlos Vela collects the almost feel like they have to go. They will be docked pay. It is what it is. It's major league soccer. It's a very strange situation where you have a guy who's making six point. Five million dollars play with the guy who's making seventy four thousand dollars. It's a very difficult situation for these players, but it almost seems like certain players have the luxury of deciding if they want to or not, would you go? At. My wife was pregnant now. I probably would not go. It's a six week five six tournaments at thirty five days. I believe I. Don't think you get as much out of it. If you're a player like Carlos Vela than what you could potentially lose, other players don't have that luxury. There are different. Ends of the spectrum in this major league soccer bubble and I'm talking about in general in the League and the player and the pay scale. Luxurious choice one can make. I wouldn't have gone. Step now obviously teams just give us what's going to happen over the next forty eight seventy two hours. More teams will be arriving. Mortiz will be arriving, and that's exactly what Tyler Miller was alluding to in that in. That soundbite just a few minutes ago. That this is only happening with six or seven teams here. We just saw the New England revolution arrive few minutes after that interview. It's going to continue, and that's what the uncertainties about he nobody is sure whether these tests will be stopped here, but you have so many people coming from the outside in the next forty eight seventy two hours that that's the biggest uncertainty and concern. Will they get here and when they get here, they test positive. And I think that if it's almost like if they taste test positive, right off the bat. When they arrive here, they can be immediately quarantined they have to quarantine any when they arrive for twelve hours until those tests come back, and that's almost more positive than having somebody tests. Positive on their second or third Kobe test while they're here in the bubble, and that's kind of what they're looking out for trump so pleased that you having to explain and not me. Thank you very much. Say Safe. Changing gears slightly herk. We saw your damn announce his late sufficient to the Atlanta United Squad. Danzig was quite interesting is. Very happy. That's a very good word to use. He's a very interesting player. Interesting Person. Listen Dan. You get a player with tons of personality. He's Hilarious Kid pries also pretty good player. oftentimes the criticism with your damn is that in product in his time he was the most expensive in-house transfer in what is. He's over ten million dollars for services from Pachuca to Tigray. He's a player has a ton of pace very controlling the ball into said space taken advantage of open space, but if that in product that service into the four that that decision making. Making the final third that it's always eluded him, but he's a very very interesting player. This kid's fast. He's electric in his time I believe there was only one other player more fast than him or faster than him. I should say in what is all of the soccer in the world, and and that was Gareth Bell. He's one of the fastest players you will ever see, but it's about what he does with that speed in the final third. Really dictate how this goes for him in Atlanta, but he won't be going to Orlando No. No, no, not he doesn't have the visa clearance. As of yet, he will be available. I believe from what he has said. He will train within the reserve system until then, and then he will be made available after this tournament as most international transfers coming in on zealous Perez, who is now with Miami Hercules? Gomez as always thank you very much. Just remind event. The is back. Tournament Kicks Off on July the eighth, and it's a double header on. 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Could you leave the TV on during the day? I need to catch up on my soaps. For Bundling made easy, go to GEICO DOT COM today. Not Brings the end of today's show. Thank you very much to frank to Allie and to Stevie. Nikko if you WANNA, see more though of Indah shower cuts and. He's with me on extra time. We've Craig Burley next. Welcome insulation of extra time, thank. There's always feel tweets, Craig and Ian with us. In case you didn't see the show. We confirm that that is not ends shower cuts and he's not sat on the toilet during this. This is your living room. Yeah and. It really is by living room and I'M GONNA have to have a word with my wife about the curtains. I think because they've taken some terrible. Eric will skate tonight on the. Man, Should Liverpool take the last few games of the Premier League seriously by softened today. It seems like they aren't. Progress I think. Certainly are taking it seriously. As serious as possible and the circumstances of the. Historic League. But I think subconsciously as a player. When you know there's nothing on the line really. Doesn't for them then. Performance drops. You now only has to drop. Ten fifteen percent this level of football. And you'll get into the against the best sites and that's. One of the best I dare say if Liverpool. CLEAL at against. A bottom half of the league is probably not going to be an issue. But Against Mindset who have Stove Cup competitions to play for? Japanese league to play for the Free Cup semifinals. These guys are still playing for places. That's the big difference. And do you think pat will trust foden enough not by replacement for David Silva. I think he's got to really because he's really spoken a lot about how. This is a special player special talent. He's the future of the glove. And it is Phil Foden. It's time now. I think he's Skoll. Four goals in three starts since we have the resumption of the League, he looks the part. Now davits silver. That's big boots to fairly could never be Davits. Silva is a wonderful, Wonderful Clare. But. He is a talent and I think time and I think it would be depressing. Really I if went out into the marketplace and spent sixty seventy million on somebody else, and you can go create. Sorry grantee, Davidge several which would. be no mean feat because as you know. Like most people have been a huge funding has. Ten most weeks, it's not a nine hundred ten, but I think I heard somebody say are assault somewhere that while the all had already told the Seti Board, the needs money spent and areas are obvious, but the dead after Rossio. And worry about a replacement for da Silva because he had so much confidence. And so forth, and so I. Don't see I. Don't think we'll see much spending. The money and area thank. To many other needs which are. Highlighted in terms of the defensive problems so I think he saw. Enthralled with Ford's pro progress that is. We. We don't have to rush out. Spend a fortune as good as. As we go other players on the youngster that can command lamb and do a job. In trying to go through the memory banks, what's the biggest upset you've ever witnessed for commentating a match and how the fans react? I'd have to get off the top of my head so for that. That gave covered in the World Cup in. Twenty fourteen Brazil won Gemini Seven. Priscila never lost a competitive home games. It's one thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, five before that, so that was. Massive upset even though the opposition was going to Germany. Who'd have thought they'd rip them to shreds like that? I think they got five in twenty nine minutes at one stage of the game, so yeah I go for that one. That was on I witnessed anyway even on TV that was bone. Because every time you look up Germany in school now goes absolutely crazy Craig. Should Chelsea sign a sensor back? Yeah I mean. There's a good argument to say that not just off the back of the performance yesterday against ways Tom, but there's an argument to say that Needs. Apartment though that makes sense teams because Ruediger had one of these. Games. For Chelsea against Tom but I think ultimately. He has their best defender. Investment, half. I don't know Christians. He's not a bad player Zimmer. Zim as a player who is capable? A young Maury as talented young guy. She's much front Lampe. Worries about. Whoever's going to play? Alongside really what he thinks, he needs to go out and buy another one. He certainly going to be looking at a by a believe. And, obviously he's he's frontline and Simona to the options. There are sorry so. I. Think There's an argument to say we'll be. Looking. But he's got three at least can partner. Rodica is he's got enough confidence in them. To do the JAW unlocks night? Sean I think is doubtful. How much the Sunday improve buying in. I think he needs time to get up to speed again because he's been the game a long time out of favor and injured, and left out with the World Cup so it'll take a little bit of time I think, but if he gets back to his best asset for anybody. And talk about a tweet right up. Great. In honor of Livable's first half performance, any stories of teammates playing soccer. Half. And an end of season game, yes. Actually. We went to Hong Kong. and. Thailand the around all area, the end of season Chelsea one year. Now convinced. Ridgeville Hood left me out in the final few days before the Cup final. Against Hong Kong and we're taught in like hell. On Only! Getting off the bus at the game I'm Marocco still hung over. Most of us some of his. Any. Names teams coming off the Boston. I'm only played. A warm right I'm warming up on the page and the. Setting, in the technically the dog. Debates whatever you call it nowadays, actually killing them show laughing at me. 'cause I'm all over the parish. Obviously and it was not a nice feeling the toll, but it wasn't expected to play, but it wasn't a competitive game. Right is for a competitive game. I, don't I. Don't think so although I'm sure it has often. But. I don't remember any of my teammates intentionally bean. hungover because I don't really know. Many drink twenty four hours before a game and you would never comment hung. Never come, but going back mean there was a huge booze culture. Everybody knows that going back before the time. Craig was playing. You get back to the nineteen sixties. Some things used to have a little catchphrase like win or lose. We're on the booth. That'd be thank away. In Blackburn Blackpool and daughter create severe. They've go out of off licences full of bear to take on the train home. Carried off the train. When they got back, so that was just part of the game. Then, of course, he's I, think he's much much more professional now and if you want to look back at some, Christmas gains way back when never looked at the scorelines and you'll understand that. Maybe not everybody was tit took edition. Plus. Don't let Coleman tell you that I've been a baby the night before gave you know what I? Remember. Of the three of us, you November, the three of US went out. And yes. Did. You have a game after that night Ian. FUNNILY ENOUGH NO! If I did I'm going to deny in now. Listen. We've had many with commentary colleagues at night before a game on remember champion sent to me and Africa at the two thousand ten. World Cup. Because, we were travelling the country. You know, Don Doing Games, and so we're going from Pella. And we'd always go up for mule night before as they arrive and I. Remember him saying one night, right? Brake Craig not very polish the creek. I, think we've all had enough red wine tonight. We have a game tomorrow on. Essays were compensate, and they gave. Jordan Glean Gallon of. Self so? You've gotTA relax. As well I mean if you're on a World Cup. Cranks right. Yeah, you'll come a gun in. You might one too many. You're saving. Is Derek thing? Here's a story forty was drafted from. Somewhere in South Africa the Johannesburg because the flight was canceled and we're on the right. I the night before All may have been the read. Write night I. Think is another one and. All I mean, we could talk if it was me. chomps was the sound engineer. The producer and a cutlass and African people traveled was a month and we enjoy ourselves, so we over indulge even remember the next day I was hanging out hanging. No matter how many tablets could headache but no game day to these off right? Many driving back to Johannesburg which was the base TV? And amend the? It's like a small. Six seven Sierra on the box and I'm lying down. And I'm like four over John Ichiro Bargain Boylan. Hall and I'm hanging. And the phone rings. And the producer price picks up and it's IT HQ. Don't enjoy work on the go. And the here mixed price gone. Yet yet. He's here and he's looking behind them and he's gone. Gauge here is here. Tonight tonight. I'll tell them tonight. Liked. Some, they'd gone now. There's no getting sold out to go into an off chip commentary with Ian. Crocker an Joe Park the evening. Line, the buck and the Vaughn an could even pick my hat off the chair. Was Horrible May. Collarbone so you should really very unprofessional. To drink before a game, but only if you if you're playing. I remember I tried to keep up with you and Steve McManaman when we went out. That was a big massage when you call very bye-bye. The show the next day the lights of our hearts go. But that was also a different night. When you try to keep up, keep up with me on a different night. And then you spell your drinks I haven't i. was I was just? Come over to me and said. You guys anymore. I said why the Great Satan he says. You know I was fine stay. eclair guys to view is watching extra time tonight when we talk about drinking. Lemonade! That's it. Since a final point, since environment is being created for the restart, of MLS NBA, excetera could the ESPN FC crew lived together in a bubble several months, if required to continue the show, who would suffer cabin fever I, which person would most likely break the rules and sneak out. Well. One thing we know is as. Hard to control the. Sweating in the product from gob McCarthy. You know that would be difficult Twelve stevie would have to be sneaking out because clearly. None of us are able shopper ship was by. Yes, so on on things. Shot. Kazutaka sneaks our when we go on trips. He disappears the whole night and then just something for. Begin I, think you you'd be the one to break the lockdown to break the bubble. Everyone. extrovert Guy! You've got to be out there. Kick me out. Who would enjoy it the most? Dude enjoy the moist. The with a bill. Joy the most were just telling stories. Yes, yet the Patel stories and we'd be like. We'd be. Telling stories about leading these team, Japan, or exactly in half the House that Jack on this got this got like fifty five set pockets. What about Franklin? What's not doing? One man plays for us could drive a complete. You'd have to be tough to muzzle for front. There's no above often spent a year at Chelsea with. Would have to have to wire Frank George together. You're. Doing. I think that's where we're GONNA win the extra time as electic. Thank you very much. Rowboat out to talk, waiting. Waiting blacks. Well the wing bags. Yeah, that's very true. Doyle, so we'll have to leave to get service the ring frank. Lampard. DONMAN's get. Don would get Lampard Isis. To. At least could do. Though as we wanted to protect ourselves from each other in could bring shower material. Yes, exactly. But you wouldn't have any problem problems who make. A shower very handy. and. You've got to pull it back just so we can see. I don't think I. It's. It's the class through to that since the conservatory. I'd like there was something. Mysterious Interesting Roy, but that's he's. In Five different. Brilliant and so. All this time. Right, that's good. Thank you very much. GUYS ESPN. NFC factoring tomorrow. Policy from state farm gets you collision coverage and this radio ad from state farm gets you. Coverage of this beloved nineties hit song. For more coverage isn't state farm, DOT COM.
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"Testing troubles corona virus claims. Thousands more American lives is a horrible thing that happened to our country should never ever happen again. As access to testing remains a critical issue. When will it be safe for Americans to leave their home and to the streets? The president backs protesters pushing for states to reopen. I just think that some of the governors have gotten carried away as governors tried to decide how and when to lift restrictions on American life. I'll speak to the governors of Virginia Maryland and Michigan next plus desperate measures unemployment spikes for the fourth straight week and struggling. Americans are running out of options is more help on the way Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer join me to discuss in moments. Jake tapper in Washington. Where state of our Union is waiting for relief. Today marks fifty days fifty days since the first grown virus death in the United States. A down which the vice president of the United States told me. We're ready it is now devastatingly clear. We were not ready. More than thirty. Nine thousand Americans are dead as of this minute a number that has doubled in just the last week. It's a toll that has left the nation desperate for relief from the ongoing public health crisis and mounting economic losses in the public health battle there are more encouraging signs that social and physical distancing measures are working to flatten the curb in the nation's hot spots but governors in states across the country. Say They still do not have the testing needed to safely began. Reopening despite the trump administration's assurances that testing is sufficient on the economic front. The numbers are frankly. Overwhelming more than twenty. Two million Americans have filed for unemployment in the last month and Thursday. The program designed to help rescue small businesses ran out of money leaving desperate people at the mercy of ongoing political negotiations between the trump administration and Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill. And let's start there joining me now. The Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin Secretary Mnuchin. Thanks for joining us. I hope everyone in your world. This is safe and healthy. It's been seventy two hours now. Since the Small Business Administration's paycheck protection program ran out of funds for emergency. Small business loans having gone through some three hundred forty nine billion dollars. Democrats say they want to make sure. The next of money goes to underserved small businesses and mom and pop shops as opposed to big chains. Such as Ruth's Chris Steak House and pot belly Are you going to try to fix that? Where are you a negotiations? We'll jake it's great to be here with you and I think we're making a lot of progress. I've had multiple conversations all weekend With the leadership about the Senate and the House. I spoke with Chuck Chuck Schumer this morning already. I know he's on after and I think we're making a lot of progress and let me just say on this program. It was three weeks ago that the president signed the law. We we had the program up and running in a week which was unprecedented. It's impacted now over thirty million Americans and let me just comment. The community banks have done an extraordinary job. Sixty percent of the loans have been approved by banks that have ten billion of assets in below twenty percent with one billion below so the community banks have just under terrific job here. Getting these loans approved two weeks ago. You promised businesses quote if you can't get the loan today or tomorrow don't worry there will be money. Some analysts and experts tells CNN that ultimately the paycheck protection program might need upwards of a trillion dollars. What do you think I? I don't think that's the case. And you know. We're incredibly pleased with the participation rate and because of that we want. Congress TO APPROVE MORE FUNDS. Right away We think that another three hundred billion dollars. That's what we're talking about should be sufficient to reach almost everybody and let me just comment. We've also reached an agreement on SBA disaster alone. So they'll be another fifty billion dollars appropriated which can do over three hundred billion disaster alone so these two programs are unprecedented response to small businesses. Which I think you know is about fifty percent of the American workforce and Wendy. I think the deal will be done. When do you think There will be an agreement and small businesses that weren't able to get in on the first three hundred forty nine billion. We'll be able to get some funding that they desperately need. I'm hopeful that we can reach an agreement that the Senate can pass this tomorrow and that the has can take it up on Tuesday and Wednesday. We'd be back up and running so you think a deal might be done today I'm I'm hopeful. I think we're very close to a deal today and I. I'm I'm hopeful that we can get that done. Democrats are also pushing for more funding for hospitals and for state governments In this bill Republican governor Larry Hogan Maryland says quote without sufficient federal. Relief States will have to confront the prospect significant reductions to essential services unquote will funding for hospitals and state governments. Being this deal. What Jake hospitals are very important and these are really the people who are on the front line and we have two issues. We have one the issue of hospitals. That are overwhelmed with covet patients but we also have hospitals that are doing no business because there's no elective surgery so this is really an issue that impacts hospitals across the board The good news is in the last bill. We have one hundred billion dollars. That's allocated I've been working very closely with Mark Meadows. Who's overseeing this for the White House? We've already distributed a lot of money and we've agreed to have another seventy five billion in this bill plots an unprecedented investment in testing. I know everybody's focused on testing. We're talking about a twenty five billion dollar federal program money that can be used with the states with new technology to invest in testing. So it sounds as though there's going to be not money for testing money for hospitals money for small businesses but it doesn't sound like state and local government funding will be in this bill at the very least the president has heard from the governor's and he's prepared to discuss that in the next bill right now. We have a lot of money that we're distributing to the states. We have one hundred fifty billion We've distributed half will distribute the other half and the president is willing to consider that in the next bill but wants to get this over the finish line with focus on small business hospitals and testing to threads seem to emerging in the business community. I know you. You have a lot of relationships there. Some business leaders say the economy needs to open up now so people can provide for their families. Even if testing isn't exactly where it should be at other business leaders say. We need to reopen the economy. But we need to do at once the right way even if it means waiting until testing is up to speed. Where do you fall in these camps? Well I was on the phone with the president this week. I think you know we spoke to over one hundred fifty business leaders. He spoke to governor. She spoke to Republicans he spoke to Democrats in both the House. And the Senate and everybody agrees. We need more testing. We're now up to about a million tests a week. We can do which I think should give people a lot more confidence and that is ramping up very quickly and as the president has said he's now put in place federal guidelines to make sure that we have a procedure to open up states. Some states will be ready quickly. Some states will take more time. The president's number one focus is the health of the American public and the number two focuses the economy and I think we have a very good plan to deal with both at this point. More than twenty two million Americans have filed for unemployment for the first time in just the last month essentially erasing. Almost all of the jobs created since the great recession GDP is poised to plummet. How long do you think it will take for the US? Economy to recover will it be months or Willoughby ears? Well let me just say you know. I'm very sympathetic to those. Who have been impacted by both the health issues and the economic issues We've shut down major parts of the economy so it's not a surprise. There's a lot of people who are on unemployment. The good news is part of the Laos. Bipartisan Bill. There's enhanced unemployment insurance. There's also the direct deposit payments that we started sending out last week. I just like to give a quick pitch for people to go to. Irs Dot Gov and Click on. Get my payment. We've had over forty million people authenticate there. We have five million people who have uploaded their instructions. We'd ask more people to do that. That combined with the P P P is getting a lot of money into the economy into the hands of Americans. Do you think it will be months or years? Before the economy is back to the strong position it was before the pandemic. I think it will be months. I definitely don't think it will be years. We are going to conquer this virus. We are gonNA have terrific breakthroughs. I know both not just on the testing but on the medical front we begin to have viral. 's I think there's things that are being developed for vaccines which will take a little bit longer but one of the things we heard is people want testing. People also will react very positively that they know if they get this disease. There will be medical treatments available as well. Now you said two months ago that quote I don't expect the current virus will have an impact beyond this year. That was obviously two months ago looking forward. Facebook has cancelled events all the way through June. Two Thousand Twenty one. The Congressional Budget Office says Colonel Virus could affect the unemployment rate through the end of twenty twenty one. The city of Los Angeles says it might not hold any concerts or sporting events until twenty twenty. One isn't it almost certain at this point that the corona virus will have an impact? I'm not saying as bad of an impact as we have right now but have something of an impact beyond this year. Well j let me just say that. This is an unprecedented time. We've we've never been in a situation where we've closed down the economy and I think rightfully so people are being cautious on the other hand as we get comfortable reopening the economy. I think we'll see a big rebound so again very sympathetic to the people the Americans who were impacted by this. The economic impact I do think we're all working very closely together. And we're going to get through this. You told lawmakers last month that the unemployment rate could theoretically climb pardon me as high as twenty percent if the US does not do enough to help the economy. Some estimates have put the current unemployment rate somewhere between fifteen or eighteen percent. Do you think it's still possible to the unemployment rate could reach twenty percent. I think if we're successful we get more money out to the. Pcp We get more people hired back to work. We make progress on testing. We open up the economy. Hopefully we won't be there but the good news is. The president has put in place with bipartisan support in economic program. That's going to help. Americans get through this stimulus checks for one thousand two hundred dollars being mailed out too. Many Americans some already gotten through direct deposit. But they're being mailed to help Americans through this crisis for the first time ever president. Trump's name is going to appear on an irs check. It's being put in the memo line because the president is an authorized to sign. The checks did the president personally suggests this idea. Well let me just correct you and say the checks have not gone out yet and the reason why the checks have out is. We're we're hoping that more people as I said we'll go to. Irs Dot Gov. It's much safer to send out. Direct deposits As relates to the president's name on it we have the president could have been authorized to sign the checks that would have slowed things down. We didn't want to do that We did put the president's name on the track. That was my idea. He is the president and I think it's a it's a terrific symbol to the American public. I want to ask you just a follow up on a question. I asked you earlier which is a lot of. I've been hearing from a lot of business owners and I'm sure you have two people who run like a small shop not a chain a small mom and pop restaurant chain and they say that it's been much easier for the pot belly and the Ruth's Chris Steak House chain restaurants like that to get money and if you don't have a pre existing relationship with banks it's been tougher to get these loans. I know that this program was ramped up very quickly but it does seem as though when the when some business owners say. Is there some way we can make sure that small businesses underserved communities get this? G- get these funds through paycheck protection. It does seem like they have a point. Is there anything? In this. Bill that will help expedite this money to these people but that might not have a pre existing relationship with bank. Put Jake. That's something we did correct Already last week we wanted to make sure that the banks fairly allocated across this across the board. The one thing I will say is because there are no your customer requirements. It was always gonNA take banks a little bit longer again. We couldn't be more pleased. The the average loan size is about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars so yes. There's some big businesses that was in the bill But but let me say the majority of these are going to small businesses and I heard stories from my local cleaners and other areas. That were really pleased. They were able to get these loans quickly. I know there's other people who are still waiting line and we're going to try to make sure all the banks get to them quickly in this next in this next batch of money last question for you. Surrogate Senate Majority Leader Mitch. Mcconnell on board with the deal that you're optimistic could be cut today I have had constant discussions with him as well as Kevin McCarthy as well as the president and Mark Meadows and we're all onboard with the same plan secretary Mnuchin. Thank you so much for your time. Good luck and I hope everyone in your world continues to stay healthy and safe. Thank you very much secretary. Mnuchin and congressional leaders are negotiating. A new stimulus package. President trump is attacking Senate Democrats motives joining me now. The Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer Democrat of New York leader. Schumer thank you so much. I know you're going to talk about and testing. I WanNa talk about that in one second but I do WanNa talk about this Funding for small business loan as the program has run out of funding as you know because of provisions Democrats want to add Karen Mills the former head of the small business administration under president. Obama says Democrats just need to go along and just fund this program. She said quote complexity is not our friend. Here things that have to be implemented quickly. Can't have a lot of bells and whistles or else a little too many unequated unintended consequences one of which is delay. And we don't have time to delay. What do you say to Karen Mills? Actually say the very things that we democrats have been fighting for are now going into the bill. If you had a connection with a bank it was pretty easy to get along. If you didn't from one end of the country to the other. We have been hearing that people can't get loans the local restaurant the local barber shop the local drugstore or even start up businesses manufacturing or or contra or Services that aren't happening so we Democrats said yes. We want to put more money in. But let's set set aside some money to make sure it goes to the rural areas to the minority areas to the bank and the sixty billion dollars For the disaster loan was our proposal and now the administration is going along with that setting aside a good chunk of the money about half of it so it goes to these unbanning. People who don't have a connection with the Bank of the smaller ones was our proposal in it. Looks like it's going so to just put two hundred fifty billion in Aleve out a large large segment. I'd say half of the small business community wouldn't have made sense and now it's going to happen because we Democrats said let's get this done this way. So you agree with Treasury Secretary. Mnuchin that the deal could be done today in voted on in the Senate tomorrow the House on Tuesday and then signed by President trump on Wednesday well speaker Pelosi and I have had constant discussions with Secretary Mnuchin. Our staffs are meeting twenty. Four seven. We've made very good progress and I'm very hopeful. We could come to an agreement tonight or early tomorrow morning. You know you got a lot of a lot of details. Dot is and Cross T.'s. But I am. I am very very hopeful. And as you heard many of the things we have asked for on the banking side on the testing side on the hospital side. They're going along with so we feel pretty good. We still have a few more on issues to deal with. Let's talk about the testing. You're on the call with Vice President Hands on Friday when Senate Senate. Democrats grew increasingly frustrated with the administration's testing response Did you get any indication from the call that the federal government has a coordinated plan to roll out testing and to make sure governors know where all the tests are? Okay we'll talk about jesting Angus king who is a mild mannered? Main guy was very upset because the president said now testing is up to the states. They've been back and forth on this. We Democrats proposed in this package. A thirty billion dollar focused plan on testing and we proposed three basic things money to go into both manufacturing and supply chains to bolster them quickly. We propose that we make Free testing far more widespread people avoid testing because they can't afford it. That's not good for the country and third we propose contact tracing what we need here is the thirty billion dollars and we need the focus from the president on the governors of our two states who are most impacted say. They need federal help. They can't do the testing on their own. You Talk to the business community. When Republican and Democratic senators were on with the president A few weeks ago a few days ago the number one call was for more testing and more federal involvement in the testing. You can't have it state by state. Let's say the swabs or made in an injustice California and the machine you know the little chemicals are made somewhere else you need the federal government to focus thus far. I believe that the president has not been focused enough on testing east. That's what Angus King so upset. But I think there is huge pressure to do it. I urged him to use the defense production. Act to get this money out The way we've talked the thirty billion dollars but at least there ought to be one person appointed in charge and making sure there's a national focus and effort on testing. I'd say this Jake testing is the key. Every expert says today's New York Times. One of the best experts. Say We only have about a third of the tests we need. We will not be able to get the economy going full fledged unless we have testing and we have examples Korea South Korea. I think they had a case one day. The first case was within a day of each other in the US and South Korea. I case but they did just what we're calling for. They did a massive increase in the number of tests they did contact tracing and now. South Korea is way over the Hump. We must do the same thing for the good of the health of America and the good of the economy and then just a couple more things the money for small business as we said we have four goals in the bill one money testing to money for small businesses. We discussed that three money for hospitals are hospitals are in desperate Shea. As the as the secretary said they're not doing Ram Elective surgery in my state. Saint Peter's Laid off seven hundred people in Albany. Saint Joseph's laid off seven hundred people in Syracuse. Joe Manchin says a his hospitals will go bankrupt. We need that but the third thing we do need is the what the Republican governors are calling for money for state and local governments and this is not abstract. But it's not gonna be in there Secretary and he said that it's gone. Well they sent till the last minute that it wouldn't be in code three and we pushed for one hundred fifty billion dollars in a dining and it is so important we don't want our police are fire fighters are. Emt's our bus drivers. This is not an abstract issue. We don't want them fired. There is does anybody else. So we're continuing to push hard for that in covert three five so let me ask you a question. Because you're you're coming to US live this morning from one of the epicenters. A Corona virus in the World New York Democrats have been very critical of how long it took president trump to take serious action in the fight against Corona virus. But Dr Thomas Friedman the former head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. He told The New York Times that if New York state and New York City had adopted social distancing physical distancing a week or two earlier the death toll in New York could have been reduced by anywhere from fifty to eighty percent. Didn't New York politicians dropped the ball here to we'll look. I think our governor and our mayor has done a great job and I think most of America agrees. It's very hard when you don't have the federal cooperation when you have the president early on saying it's a hoax or it'll go away or don't worry about it to get things done. I think our state and our city has done a terrific terrific job given that we were the EPI center. San Francisco ordered schools closed on March twelfth. Ohio did the same with five confirmed cases on on March fifteenth. Blasi ordered New York City schools to close with three hundred twenty nine cases. A New York state wide stayed home order was announced on March twentieth. A day after California. You don't think more could have been done earlier. I mean other states. We're taking action. Look again we were the epicenter. That was so many things to do getting ventilator so people wouldn't die was important getting the PCP for the healthcare workers. What's important or many things that were very very important. As I said I think both Cuomo and de Blasio get very high marks for how they've handled this. I WanNa ask you one other question Sarah Congresswoman Alexandria Cossio Cortez. This week did not rule out a possible. Two thousand twenty two primary run against you. Are you confident you could look throughout my career? I've done my job. I'm totally focused on this cove. It we are the EPI center and I found throughout my career. You do your job everything else. Works out okay. All Right Minority Leader Chuck Schumer Democrat of New York. Thank you Sir for your time and I hope everyone in your world is safe and healthy. Thanks so much for being with US. Thank you thank you. Jake can stay healthy too as governor start to plan how they're stationed might begin to reopen. What will the new normal? Look like Maryland governor. Larry Hogan will join me next plus. The president is publicly attacking and undermining the efforts of three democratic governors two of them governors. Ralph North Virginia and Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan but Michigan. We'll be here response. Stay with us. Prepare yourselves but time for brand new. Rick and Morty Adventures is almost here what this is what you've been waiting for new rick. And MORTY ON ADULT SWIM. Governments around the world have been. Ill prepared to respond to the corona virus outbreak. But there's an organization that has been sounding the alarm for years about how vulnerable we all are to a pandemic the bill and Melinda Gates Foundation this week on boss files. I talk exclusively with Melinda Gates about how. Her Foundation is putting their extensive resources. Billions of dollars behind the development of a vaccine and what can be done for developing world including Africa which she says could be devastated by over nineteen. Listen to the latest episode of Boss Files. Wherever you gave podcasts. Welcome back to state of the Union. I'm Jake Tapper. Ner Took Jake Tapper as governors way. How and when it may be safe to reopen president trump is putting his finger on the scale egging on a small faction of protesters who say they want restrictions lifted. He's also attacking democratic governors including my next guest. Virginia's Governor Ralph Northbound Governor North. I'm saying thanks for joining us. I want you to take a listen to president. Trump's attack against you at his Press briefing Saturday. That people really have to start looking at is. What's going on in Virginia? Because that's a mess with a government with really a governor. That's under siege. Anyway they're trying to take that that Second Amendment right that Second Amendment right away to me that's liberty. That's when I say liberate Virginia. What's your response to President Trump sir? Well Good Morning Jake. And thanks so much for having me on. I hope you and your your listeners. Your viewers are all healthy. You know our our president obviously has been unable to deliver on test now. He has chosen to focus on protests. And this is not the time for protest. This is not the time for divisiveness. This is time for leadership that will stand up and and provide empathy. That will will understand what's going on this country of ours with this pandemic it's time for Truth and it's the time to bring people together. And that's what I've done is the governor of Virginia and We're we're fighting a biological war. We've been asked by the way as governors to fight that war without the supplies. We need and so. The governor's have worked together to to really increase the amount of P p. e. that we have we been competing for that unfortunately but working collaboratively We've we've worked very hard every day to to increase our testing capability and and I just. I commend the governor's but I also commend Virginians. Virginians know what this is about. They're working together. They're checking on others. Are Teachers are stepping up? I just Just it's an unbelievable response and you know we're fighting. We're in the middle of a health crisis right now. We're also in the middle of an economic crisis and just as soon as we can get this health crisis behind us will be able to address the economic crisis. Get back to where we were and and let people get back to their normal lives. Obviously you signed a number of a sweeping gun control measures Into law in the last few weeks and president trump is not made any secret that he disagrees with that. The Governor Jay Inslee of Washington State says the language of liberate Virginia that you heard from President trump in Ensley view it quote encourages illegal and dangerous action quote lead the violence. Do you agree. We've had some terrible tragedies here in Virginia Jake with with gun violence as you know in two thousand and seven. We lost thirty. Two precious lives at Virginia Tech in all over the Memorial Day weekend last year we lost twelve lives and you know and I brought the legislature back to Virginia for a special session. The Republicans spent less than ninety minutes address in gun violence and and Virginian stood up. They spoke they said enough is enough They said that you know the thoughts and prayers. We appreciate those but but we want legislators that will come to Richmond and take votes and pass laws so I was pleased Just this past week to sign seven pieces of commonsense gun legislation. That will keep Virginia Safe. So so that's what happens when when people listen And they've they've responded and you know right now. Jake this is about this pandemic of I. I'll be glad to talk about gun. Violence and what we've done but it's time for Virginia for this country to come together and address the lives that we are losing Every day to try to put this health crisis behind us this week. He said your state or rather your Commonwealth was slowing the spread of the virus but the peak would likely not happen until the end of the month with corona virus cases continuing to climb in Virginia. When do you think that the economy could potentially start to open back up? Which is a great question. Jake and I think it's something that the governor's wrestle with every day today just as an example we had close to five hundred new cases. Close to twenty new desks and and while we're not seeing a significant increase. It looks like it's flattening out a bit and so we would like to see at least two weeks of trending numbers Going DOWN We WanNa make sure that. We have the P. P. that we need in our hospitals and our penitentiaries and our nursing homes. We WanNA RAMP UP OUR TESTING CAPABILITIES. And as soon as we see all these things coming We'll open up our businesses just as soon as we can but we want to make sure that we do it responsibly. And we want to do it safely as you know. You've been criticized for your hand lowering handling of the crisis compared to your neighboring states. Robert McCartney from the Washington Post Recently wrote quote. One might assume that a governor who spent most of his career as a physician. That's you would be among the first depressed for quick decisive action to combat a deadly fast spreading infectious disease but one would be mistaken and it is true that you only ordered a state of emergency after Maryland and Washington. Dc did so you only issued a stay at home order after West. Virginia and Kentucky did so. Do you wish you at acted earlier. Were Jake as you said. I am a physician I served in Desert Storm. Taking care of wounded soldiers have been in some tough situations in the ER saving and helping children and their and their families. We took some very aggressive steps in Virginia. We we warn the first states to close down schools for for the spring. We have a stay at home order through June tenth. We've asked our hospitals and our providers to elective surgeries. I so that we can make sure that we have the bed capacity supplies that we need. So you know. We've taken some very aggressive steps. This social distancing the good hygiene that we the guidelines that we've been there working In Virginia and again. I'm so proud of Virginia's for what they're doing. And we're going to get through this together and Jake we came into this covert nineteen is a very strong Commonwealth. We were the number one state in this great country of ours in which to do business and I have reminded. Virginia's we're going to come out of this strong as well. The president and vice-president saying over the past few days that the US has enough testing capacity for states to begin opening back up. If you feel you're ready to go into phase. One is at the case in Virginia. Do you have enough tasks to do the test. You need to do jake. That's just delusional to be making statements like that. We we have been fighting every day for P. P. And we've got some supplies now coming in. We'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR FOR TESTING. It's not a it's not a straightforward test. We don't even have enough swabs. Believe it or not. And we're ramping that up but for the national level to say that we have what we need and really to to have no guidance to the state levels It's just irresponsible. Because we're not there yet governor north. I'm thank you so much for your time Come back we love to have you on to talk about some other issues. Thanks so much jake. President trump is pushing states to ease corona virus restrictions even as his own medical advisers in many governors. Do including my next guests. Say reopening the country right now. Still risks too. Many American lives joining me now. Maryland's Republican governor Larry Hogan Governor Hogan. It's good to see you. I want to start with the news that in this bill legislation. That's coming out that will Fund some of the small business loans. it's also gonNA fantastic. It's also going to fund hospitals according to Secretary Mnuchin. But but they're not gonNA provide money for states and I know you've been outspoken. I quoted you to Secretary Mnuchin. He said maybe in the next legislation Will there be funding for states. What's your response? Well first of all. We're we're just Hopeful that We can get all these parties to agree and put aside partisanship in the US. Senate get the administration and the senators on both sides of the aisle to reach some kind of deal to get this done because we do need to get this money out for our small businesses and certainly. The hospitals need help as well. I spoke with the Secretary of Mnuchin several times last week. We also had a discussion with the president and while the we're a little disappointed The NCAA is pushing was just me? But the National Governor's Association was pushing for this funding which desperately needed for the states if we want to get this economic recovery moving But that they did commit to work with us in the fourth stimulus. Bill The the Governor's all across the country. Republicans and Democrats of the National Governor's Association. Were pushing to try to get it included in this bill. I don't think the deals Finalized yet but look we do not WanNa hold up funding to these small businesses and we hope that the Democrats and the Republicans in the Senate can come together in a bipartisan way. And get something moving for the American people. I know you've seen this video from Tacoma Park Maryland Video on Friday from local. News chose hundreds of Marylanders lined up outside Mega Mart stores for a free food giveaway. They obviously desperate many of them. I'm assuming have no income at all. Because of the shutdown what do you say to your constituents About when you're going to open the state up and what goes through your mind when you see the desperation evidence in the video well first of all My heart goes out to all the people that are struggling. And we've been focused on this. It's this twin problem of fighting to try to save people's lives but we're also very concerned about the people who are not able to work in the small businesses that are hurting which is why You know I'm a lifelong small business person myself. I ran for governor because I was concerned about people. Losing their jobs My goal is to try to get US. Open as quickly as we possibly can. But in a safe way The president's own guidelines. Say That you should have a fourteen days of declining numbers before you start to consider phase one of a reopening and we have increasing numbers Every day here in the Washington region Governor myself and Governor Mayor Bowser in the district. So we're not at the point yet where we can but we have a very detailed reopening plan. We've been working on for weeks. Were anxious to get people back to work. the The folks that were lined up for food. Look it came from a good place this Grocery store was offering free bags of food. Which is why so. Many people showed up But they didn't coordinate with the local authorities and you had some crowds which was unfortunate but look we put eight eight million dollars into local food banks to try to make sure that people were not going hungry. The first thing. You've called for an order to reopen. Your state is an expansion of testing capacity. I want you to take a listen to what the vice president and president trump has said on that issue. We believe today that we have the capacity in the United States to do a sufficient amount of testing For States to move into phase one at the time and manner that they deem to be appropriate as our experts said yesterday. America's testing capability and capacity is fully sufficient. Could begin opening up the country. Totally Governor North Just called that delusion all the idea that states have enough testing What do you think? Do you have Enough testing to move into phase. One I think this is probably the number one problem in America and has been from the beginning of this crisis. The lack of testing and I've repeatedly made this Argument to the leaders in Washington on behalf of the rest of the governors in America and I can tell you talked to governors on both sides of the aisle nearly every single day The administration I think is trying to ramp up testing Try they are doing some things with respect to private labs but to try to push this off to say that the governors have plenty of testing and they should just get to work on testing. Somehow WE AREN'T DOING. Our job is just absolutely false Every governor in America has been pushing And fighting and clawing to get more tests not only from the federal government but from every private lab in America and from all across the world and we continue to do so look. We've increased our testing in Maryland by five thousand percent over the past month. But it's nowhere near where it needs to be and As governor North upset a moment ago there are things like shortages on on swabs that we don't have anywhere in America. You can't do the test without on reagents which is part of the test So you know look I think. They've made some strides at the federal level. I think states are all working hard on their own divine. Their own testing lab capacity has been increasing. But it's not accurate to say. There's plenty of testing out there. And the governor should just get done That's just not being straightforward. Protesters gathered In the state capital yesterday to call for you to reopen businesses reopened schools. I want you to listen to what President Trump said about protests occurring around the country. I mean I know this There are a lot of protests out there and I just think that some of the governors have gotten carried away. You know we have a lot of people that don't have to be told to do what they're doing. They've been really doing everything we've asked him. Specifically I think. President trump is referring to three democratic governors in coincidentally. I'm sure three battleground states for twenty twenty. But what's your response when you hear the president saying That some governors of going overboard. We'll look I think that First of all I understand the frustration among the people that That WanNa things open right away. I'm frustrated also. I mean I wish I had someone to protest too but Look we're doing everything. We possibly can to reopen in a safe manner. But I don't think it's helpful to encourage Demonstrations and encourage people to go against the president's own policy for example. I mentioned earlier. The president's policy says you can't start to reopen under his plan until you have declining numbers for fourteen days which those states in my state do not have So then to encourage people to go protest. The plan that you just made recommendations on on Thursday It just doesn't make any sense where we're sending completely conflicting messages out to the governor's into the people As if we should ignore federal policy in federal recommendations. I've been meaning to ask you about this meeting that you attended. You attended a briefing about Corona virus on February ninth with Dr Pfau chief and the head of the CDC. You're at the White House for. I guess governors were having convention of some sort. You told The Washington Post quote the doctors and the scientists. They were telling us then exactly what they're saying now. How stark were the warnings? That you were getting in private on. February ninth was so I'm chairman of the National Governor's Association. We had our annual winter meeting in In Washington on February ninth. I called the meeting. We added to our agenda because there were governors. This was at the very beginning of the crisis. I think sort of around the time when the outbreak was just happening in the country and in the state of Washington And we asked for some of these folks to come brief. The governor's to give us a better understanding of what was happening and We had Robert Redfield the head of the CDC Dr Faucher and the number of others. That were five panelists from the administration who came and You know they gave us a pretty Pretty detailed Outline of what they felt was happening with this. This virus in what they thought was a good potential for what might happen in the country And I can tell you I left that meeting Very very concerned and came back the very next day and got our team completely ramped up To try to get to work and we had actually been looking at this since early January and had a preliminary effort ongoing but when I left that briefing That the administration gave to the governors We knew that this was going to be a serious crisis. County Larry Hogan Maryland. Thank you so much for your time. Sir. Really appreciate it thank you jake. Joy Now is Michigan's Democratic Governor Gretchen. Whitmer governor Whitmer. Thanks so much for joining us. Everyone in your world is safe and healthy. President Trump tweeted on Friday about your state quote liberate Michigan. What's your response to that message and others like it from President trump the only responses that you know Michigan Right now has the third highest death count in the country. We are the tenth largest state as you can deduce. This means we have a uniquely hard issue going on here because it's disproportionately hurting in our state and that's why we need to take a uniquely Aggressive action to protect people are actions are working. You know my stay home. Order is one of the nation's more conservative but the fact of the matter is it's working we are seeing the curve. Start to flatten. And that means we're saving lives and the hard part of public health is when you're doing a good job you're saving lives and it's hard to quantify precisely what that looks like but we know that this was steep at the trajectory we were headed and now it looks as though it is starting to flatten. These efforts are making a difference and saving lives. We've got to continue doing it. There have been a lot of criticisms of how detailed your stay at home. Order is are in terms of people not being allowed to buy seeds for gardening in stores or people not being allowed to use jetskis although they're allowed to use. Cook kayaks spokesperson for the Michigan Retailers Association. Said there's just confusion all over the place when it comes to your executive order. Do you regret anything about the way these rules have been rolled out you know. This is an unprecedented crisis that we are confronting as a globe. Frankly and the harsh harsh way that it's heading. My state means that we've got to be really smart about the actions. We take now to protect life as well as the actions. We take to re-engage and no one's more Anxious to re-engage our economy than I am but I want to do it in a way that really does save life that makes it safe that mitigates risk and means that we can avoid a second way because as tough as this moment is it would be devastating to have a second wave and I know that the vast majority of Michigan is understand that not going to the gas station to fill up your your boat So that you can go. Tooling around is a sacrifice. But it is one that is worth it because who among US wouldn't rather for go jet skiing or boating right now if it's GonNa Save Your grandparents or your neighbor's life and that's precisely what the trade office in this moment governor you said the testing is an essential piece of fighting the virus. We're have a chart up here of the states. With at least a thousand corona virus deaths in Michigan is next to last with just over a thousand tests per one hundred thousand residents. That's just half or a third of the number and other hotspots such as New York Louisiana Massachusetts. The trump administration says that you all governors have enough tasks. Why is testing still so low per capita in your state? How long do you think it will be until you have enough infrastructure setup to task contact race in order to reopen all right? I can tell you we could double or even triple the number of tests that we're executing daily if we had the swabs and reagents and I know you talked to governors north on an Hogan before I came on. And they're saying the exact same thing. This is not a unique situation in Michigan but the crisis that we're confronting is unique and that's precisely why it would really be incredibly helpful. If the federal government would use the defense production act to start making these swabs and reagents so we can improve testing even by their own guidelines. They say that You should have fourteen days of declined growth that you should be able to test. But they're they're great. They're getting a third gating. Criteria says only testing for high risk healthcare providers. That's not nearly enough. You talked to any epidemiologist and they tell you. We should be testing between one and two percent of our population regularly. And that's precisely why we need these fundamental supply chain issues address. We can ramp up our testing and have some confidence in the numbers and no one. It's safe to engage and be able to track folks after we started reengaged parts of our economy. I've heard from people in the administration that one of the issues is that there are millions of tasks out there that have been sent to states but that the governor's don't even know that those tests are in the states not necessarily through any fault of the governor's is that one of the problems here. That tasks are being put out on the market. But you're not even being informed about it. Well in some cases yeah we will get tests into our healthcare providers. And it's you know we're dependent on them to let us know that's happened the Saturday to run the system. It would be nice if we had a national strategy that was working with the state so every state knew precisely what was coming in but at the end of the day we governors are doing the best. We can with what we've got. We could use some assistance though to make sure that those supply chain issues are addressed and we can do the robust testing that every epidemiologist in our country tells you is absolutely essential as we prepare to think about engaging sectors of our economy governor Gretchen. Whitmer thank you so much for your time. Hope you and everyone in your world stay safe and healthy you to the trump administration on Thursday publicly released guidelines for opening up America. Again one key measure. That states need the ability to quickly set up safe and efficient screening and testing sites and test symptomatic individuals and trace their contacts as well as setting up other sites for as symptomatic individuals. The White House says the states are ready. Our best scientists and health experts assess that today we have a sufficient amount of testing to meet the requirements of a phase one re-opening if state governors should choose to do that but as the White House Corona Virus Task Force makes this assertion. There seems to be a real disconnect with the states and the struggles the states face such as what we heard a few days ago from the Republican governor of Ohio the wine and the state director of health health systems worldwide of struggle because of the critical shortage of test kit components. Testing is the bane of every. I'm sure governor and I'm sure everyone every health their director on the states. We just wish we had more getting from the president's anything remotely resembling a coherent policy on this critical issue of testing has been close to impossible as best exemplified by this blatant live from when president visited the CDC on March six. Anybody that wants to test can get a test. This pledge for March twenty. I also seems to be untrue. We expect that by March twenty eighth to be well over twenty seven million into the market. What is the actual number of tests that have been produced White House officials? Were not able to tell me when I ask them. Repeatedly yesterday though experts caution it is far less than twenty seven million but even if they produced a lot of tests. How many of them have been administered. Today we've conducted more than three point. Seven eight million corona virus tests three point seven eight million versus twenty seven million. These numbers illustrate a problem. I there are not enough. Tests capacity still needs to increase significantly and second and perhaps even more important right now. There is a real disconnect between the tasks that exist and getting them to where they're needed. The governor's IRV responsible for testing. I hope they're going to be able to use this tremendous amount of available capacity that we have an interesting language their credit for the tests that have been completed. That's we the responsibility for future testing. That's them the governors and many governors simply do not know where these tests are even. If they're in they're very states. The communication has been sorely lacking not that the president has had any issues communicating support for those protesting against governors or specifically three Democratic Governors of Michigan Minnesota Virginia. Three battleground states in the two thousand twenty election. So that's where we are. April nineteenth testing continues to be nowhere near where health experts wanted to be the remains a huge disconnect between making the tasks and delivering them to where they're needed and the biggest development on testing. Is that the president is now officially completely passed. The buck to the governor's some of whom he then turns around and attacks for doing too much to try to save American lives. You know. Leadership is being tested here to Mr President. Thanks for spending your Sunday morning with us for reads car. Gps starts next.