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Conspiracy Theories and Cover Stories | Weak-Side Podcast

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Conspiracy Theories and Cover Stories | Weak-Side Podcast

"Thursday's weakside podcast I'm caught alongside Jenny. RENTA's will begin with a little bit of what we left off. the earlier podcast this week with because Jenny. We just got an audience submission that was so good that I had to read it off the top of the show, and this was. If anyone remembers from our last episode, we asked all of our loyal instagram followers for their favorite Cam Newton to New England patriots conspiracy. Theory Jenny and I are both conspiracy theory enthusiasts as many of you know Jenny just finished Oliver Stone's JFK for just a little bit of a window into our mindset. and. That's true story. Right I'm not true very true. It's rare that I've watched a movie, but I really got into it, yeah! So we put the cough for the Best Cam Newton Patriots conspiracy theory. We got a lot of good submissions that we read on the show, but one that we got after recording. That was so good that I just have to lead off this week's episode with it so I. Just WanNa. Thank Heidi underscore win. Who just I mean. This is phenomenal. I replied, Oh. Hell yeah from the qb account. This is how good it was so without further. Ado Heidi Wind says that. Cam Newton, going to the Patriots to finish out his illustrious career was a reward from the NFL for laying down to Peyton manning in the twenty fifteen super bowl, and allowing him to escape with his second ring, tying a bow on the Peyton, Eli both Rings Hall of Fame Yada Yada Jenny. This was just I. Mean it touched so many buttons for me? That it was just it was perfect. I can't believe I didn't think of it to be honest. It sounds like something that came out of your brain to be honest with you when you. I texted about it. I thought you just had written it because. The tech sometimes read out of order on your screen or earliest selassie, the last ones I and then when you said it was a reader submission I was like. Does this person live in your brain? It was very. It was very Disorienting I have to say because this is exactly up your alley. Conspiracy Theory, somehow involving peyton manning and these other forces outside of our understanding I mean. It was just a hit on a lot of levels I have to say. Yeah I mean this is what I love about the weakside podcasts community they are cultivating a I. Don't know where Co cultivating a group of people that. I don't want to say like minded because I. Don't think that we're like minded, but I don't know a niche audience a niche audience yeah I. Mean like people that are really fit in here so way to go Heidi. That was awesome. Thank you again to everybody who who submitted answers. We've got a great. User submission for the end of this show that we're going to get to a little bit later on, but Let's hop Jenny right into the news of the week and news topic number one is earlier this week. Ron Rivera the head coach there in Washington defended the teams football mascot by saying. Hey, this is what it's always been It was this way when I was playing. It was this way when I was growing up. That response to a little bit criticism from longtime NFL. Coach Tony Dungy. Who recently told ESPN's the undefeated that not that hard to change a name? As, everyone knows were in this moment of societal reckoning. There are monuments coming down their names of things being changed. Washington has participated in various aspects of this. Social Justice Movement, but it renders sort of. Like a little bit of a false. Sense of. Caring when your name is racist on its on its head, so I'm curious. Do, you think that anything comes of this or do you think Daniel? Snyder is just bracing for the storm in hopes that he can whether it okay. You know I think now really is the easiest time that Snyder whatever have to change the name Connor. There is such a momentum to change so many things in our country that have long been accepted despite being racism or despite being racists. We've seen monuments coming down that we just assumed no one would ever push for them to come down. We've seen you know. Schools and colleges at universities be renamed Woodrow Wilson and John Calhoun or names that have come off prominent institutions at universities, and so now would be the time when Snyder could say. Yes. I'm going to change the name and it would be beneficial for him to do so i. mean that's. Wild now is like for a long time. We've. Said well. He won't do it unless he's. There are financial motivations and he won't do it until it affects them in the pocket. Book and I think now is the time when it could. It could be in his favor to change the name, and so if he continues to dig in his heels, then just really like not a lot to say and I think it would get to the point where. Some players would not want to play for him, or they would lose fan support, or they could lose some of the sponsors that a really opposed that decision making I. Don't know Connor. It just feels like for him to continue to dig his heels. In this moment, is not just wrong, but it's also idiotic. Yeah, I agree I mean. I went to a school that changed its name twice. Its nickname twice Syracuse was originally the Saltine warriors before they were the Orangemen. And now they are the orange and I. Don't remember anybody really having that hard time about it saint. John's used to be another name before they change to the red storm. And I don't think that affected in any way or form the historic nature of that program and I. Wonder if it's a little bit like. You know I think that. At some point, you're going to end up Losing more than you gain by this, and you know I think that. Maybe the president is a good example. People have said that he has tried so hard to pacify his hardcore fan base that you end up kind of distancing yourself from the rest of America you know, and maybe a majority percentage of of football fans or people who are going to go to games and stuff like that and I think that. This is a great time for Daniel Snyder to at least explore it. I. Mean you know it's like what what does it hurt to bring in A branding group Take Him specs look at some new uniforms I. mean you have a potential to you know? Create an entirely new identity. With a classic Big City Franchise, and I think that that should be energizing for someone you know, and it could rewrite a little bit of his own narrative as an owner which has been spotty at best so far I would say yeah. I think so and mentioned to me that the fan site hogs haven was coming up with different shirts with different mascots on it, and so I think the fan base is certainly ready for a change. Everyone's ready to embrace a new chapter and try to have a more accurate representation of our country's history. For for what is I think it'll be interesting to see the stance that the league takes on it. In the past, they've said it's up to Washington. It's up to Snyder. We can't put any pressure on them, but we'll goodell get more involved. will local. Government figures get more involved with things like stadium, funding, or whatever influence they. Exert over the team and so I'm interested to see how that plays out, but this certainly was a chance where the newly hired head coach could have taken a stand against it and I thought it was notable, and if I'm being honest, disappointing that he did not yeah I mean we're at the point now where the Mississippi state flag is being changed, you know what I mean like. This is a state flag. on the other hand Washington is a football franchise that has existed for you know a quarter of that time, and while every NFL team believes that the the most important thing in the world does not have nearly the longevity of. The Mississippi state flag or a statue of a confederate, general or anything like that and these things it moves on time moves on things change. You know I just think. A, you're in Washington, DC and if you want to capitalize on this, you know I don't know ground swell of patriotism. There's no better set of nicknames to explore than the ones that are sitting in the nation's capital. That could have something to do with America, or you know our nation or anything like that, but it I don't know I just feel like a it's. It's disappointing that they just seem to be hiding. Hiding and saying Galway away. Don't potato pay attention to us, but be I don't know. I think it's a missed opportunity business wise to, and this is not the way we're supposed to think about it, but it's just the way that they think about it and you know it's just surprising to me that that thought has not crossed their mind. I guess I agree connor. I think that's really well, said I, mean you. You hope that people do things for other than business reasons, but the reality is business, reasons and money are generally the driving force in American culture and I think this is amiss. Business Business Opportunity as well so That's another factor that we should consider moving forward, but there have been no indications that he's. To budge I hope a wrong on that me to. Introduce the second news time because I want you to read the next to news topics mostly because you'll see why, in a second but news topic number, two chiefs defensive tackle Chris Jones made one thing clear he will not play without a long term deal this year, citing Levian, Bell is a mentor, and I wanted to introduce this because Jenny is resident levy on bell expert, really excellent cover story on Levian Bell last. Last year when he signed with the jets, and it was the interview with Bell that explained everything that was going on the entire process, so we have the holdout expert on this podcast Jenny, Renta. So what is Chris Jones getting into? And is this You know I don't know based on your experience with love Eon Bell. Is this a worthwhile experience for someone to try to go through to stand their ground? I was really surprised to see his tweet connor. It was kind of one of those where you're scrolling through. And I did a double take, and I clicked on it to make sure it was actually a verified account I was just surprised to see that kind of like reply that said something as big as it did, and just like a casual reply to random tweet on twitter I. Don't know that kind of caught me off. Guard a little bit. I don't know the bells path was a smooth one. I mean it was. It was definitely bumpy that first year he played on the Franchise Tag, and then the second year they made a deal long-term deal offer that was better than they had offered one year before, and he almost signed it, and then he decided not to, and he didn't really have a concrete plan heading into that year. I remember he said He. I planned to show after week. One then is target shifted to the week seven by, and there were other factors that he said at the time. stealers wouldn't assure his agent that they wouldn't trade him. or use the transition tag on him for the following season and He thought he was going to still go back to play, and then he decided not to, and so i. don't think things exactly worked out the way that he wanted them to. We met with him Miami right after he signed his jets di Di all and you know. He said he got the guaranteed money that he wanted that that was more important for him. He also. Also detailed important factor here to connor is that there are other reasons he said besides the money I think he felt he had a kind of a fracturing relationship with Ben and Ben Rothlisberger but she cited as one factor, and he was kind of looking for a fresh start and I. Don't know if those are factors for Chris Jones I mean it doesn't seem. Doesn't seem like that. That is I mean. It seems like this is just kind of a solely the contract situation and I certainly understand his stance, and I'm always in favor of players pushing to get as much money as they can and. To get the contract that they deserve since they have such a small window for earnings, but going the route that bell did. Be One and it might not work out the way that you want it to I. Think One difference here is the positions that they play right. Chris Jones somebody that you would give a long term contract to because he plays a position that can be a cornerstone piece of your team, whereas generally in today's NFL running back isn't looked up as that necessarily give a second contract to a running back a second big contract it's it's a big risk and I think the steelers were willing to give him a long-term second deal, but He obviously wanted a different number than they were willing to give. I. I wonder what your favorite in reporting at all. The Bells stuff. What was the one thing may be? From Lebanon's perspective that caught you by surprise if anything caught you by surprise and just something that was maybe a little bit I opening to you, and for as long as you've covered the business side of the NFL I don't know anything that sort of stood out is like that is something that I never would have expected. Well I think what stood out to me. was that one that he almost signed the deal with the steelers that in the summer that Eddie was this close? He said to signing it, and that certainly others around him wanted him to sign that deal, and I think the other one was that his sort of his plan for the holdout was a little bit of moving target and I think him. Being open about that was was helpful to hear because if you choose to sit out for a season, that's a difficult decision and. You know I think he was kind of not sure how how long he would. Be Able to do that. How long he would be okay staying away from the game that he loved And, I think there's obviously a lot of factors that shift you know then. There ended up being a little bit of a back and forth I know some of his teammates were expressed their frustrations that he wasn't in the locker room, and then there was certain other factors that change including you know teams that it wouldn't trade him. And then you get to a certain point in the season where they could use the transition tag and the money wouldn't There were some money calculations that didn't work out after a certain point in the year. So, but I think I just thought I think you hear Oh player sits out the whole season. You think they have this master plan. And it was just a very human look I think at it, and that he was pushed and pulled in a lot of different ways, which I think, most of US could relate to. Yeah if Not Holding out for a large contract I've never I've never held out for firm millions, but you know just the general situation of being conflicted I would say that I've held out for you. Know Jenny I used to work on the seventh floor of the. I don't know whatever you call it. I forget what the building called, but we always had the restocked M's. Plate of time when the EMINEM's were not being restocked, and I would go into the office on Tuesdays looking forward to it and I would say you know what I don't know. How much work's going to get done without without my favorite dark chocolate, eminem. Turns out healthy life choice to to end up kind of circumnavigating that and not eating the EMINEM's, but you know that that's a story for another day I mean. I have not eaten eminem since our last day in the office. Early March, and I feel like this has been a positive life development. My never see another. Amano mcgann I think I'll be in good shape, but so you know eminem 's wanted. A dog at twenty, five, million fully guaranteed, which was a record for the position similar similar. Similar items here connor, so we're. We're in in the clear and on on the good side of shaper mint the women's shape wear for possible sponsor. EMINEM's on the other side GonNa get banged by the chocolate giant You know we'll. We'll take that as we come all right. What? What do we have for for news topic number three all right? Aj recently told SPA Sirius Xm that he'd never seen anything like what happened in Jacksonville. From fights in the locker room to players feeling to get along with coaches to be, we'll trying to jettison their way out of town. Is it possible. We may have underplayed just how dysfunctional the Jaguars team was. Oh I! Know why you gave me. The sharp words from the classic Jaguars. Critic Jenny Renta's might God. Jeez. Really that me up script writer really set me up for the record there. That was good I do I mean. I think that. With, the perspective of time we might look back and say holy crap. How did this team come within a few plays of the Super Bowl, you know. That's a really That's a really crazy thing to think about. Yeah Yeah I think it has been pretty eye opening looking back, but I think we also expected that there probably was a lot more to the story just seeing the way that things disintegrated so quickly. You figure that there probably was a lot bubbling underneath the surface. It is interesting and other cities like Jacksonville, where like the media traffic is lower, and the national attention is a lot lower. It's different than like something in New York, like I just can't imagine a fight in the locker room being kept under wraps for like more than a couple days on a team in the New York market. Can you connor? Oh? My God if if that happened i. mean just think about all the things. Let's let's take a minute to brainstorm all of the minutia that ended up becoming an insanely large scale story in the New York market. Top of my head. I'm thinking about a boat a boat trip. With friends that ended up becoming an issue, I remember Amari Star Meyer Right Punch. A fire hydrant were a like a fire extinguisher. Something or other? Left practice early once after a little bit of a disagreement with Bill Sheridan the new defensive coordinator. That only lasted a couple of hours Odell. Beckham! Wasn't practicing for a while with a hamstring injury is a rookie and Tom Coughlin was upset. That was like two weeks of New York Post back pages Let me think there's got to be a good one for jets time. That was like my God. Why are we even talking about this? Yeah I know we generally have a jet story to to plug at every opportunity, so it's a little surprising that we're We're coming up a little empty right now, connor, yeah, something will come to us by the end of the show, but yeah, interesting in a call maybe to put out to all you perspective documentary filmmakers that it's time to dig in to the Jaguars and we need to find out what's really going on support for the QB NFL show is brought to. To you by Manscaping, the best in men's below the belt grooming man's gave offers precision engineer tools for your family jewels. They obsess over their technology developments to provide you the best tools for your grooming experience. MANSCAPING has redesigned the electric trimmer, the just released new and improved lawnmower three point. Oh, their third-generation trimmer features a cutting edge ceramic bleeds. Reduce manscaping accidents when I tell you this is premium I, mean premium. 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This next one is If not completely self-serving a little bit fun to talk about so I I think what we have for number for all right sports illustrated fantasy football issue is on newsstands now with a cover story by our very own connor or this is very exciting. The future prospects of Ravens quarterback Lamar. Jackson, we wonder what is on the mind of almost all fantasy footballers hoping to win a repeat title Cam Lamar Jackson do it again. I turned the question around and I said that Lamar Jackson last year showed everybody that he can do it and I think that we should not be thinking about it that way, even though we will right, and I think the way that we should be thinking about it is. Can the Ravens coaching staff continue to evolve the scheme to the point where Lamar Jackson can play up to his ability I? Think that that is the question that is facing Baltimore in any other team at the chiefs, any other team that has achieved great success with a quarterback, and then is battling that tendency to become stagnant. Yeah no absolutely, and it's interesting of course because this off season has been strange but Lamar. Jackson had a group of receivers down in the South Florida area for Lauderdale I believe, and they worked out on the things that you would think he'd be looking to make gains in this year, so throws outside the numbers, making sure to use his whole body, and not using just his arm on those. Also the deep ball and I think one interesting thing will be to see. Markey's Brown was not fully healthy last year so I feel like the deep connections between him and Lamar Jackson will be. Another area in which the offense could take. Another fruitful area. I guess to take a step forward this season as well so I think it's a smart way to look at it. Connor I. Think People should check out your cover story. Last year when John Harbaugh. Had you know Paul Johnson? Come in from navy and. I think that that was the sort of the the point where everything went to boil I. mean there's a lot of smart things going on in their front, a- their front office that obviously you covered wonderfully to in in a story that you did as well and just like. Some ideas that like they were coming up with that nobody was thinking of the time, and I think it was all this energy and momentum that was running downhill to the point where it setup. Lamar Jackson to be successful, but I just hate the. The idea that you know. Maybe he's not going to score as many touchdowns as he did last year. And we're all just we all just say well. The NFL caught up to him figured him. They didn't figure him out. They figured out the plays that were being called for him. You know what I'm saying and I feel like it's always such a backwards way of looking at things. Yeah I would also say the biggest hurdle to Lamar Jackson doing it again in twenty twenty. Is there being a full football season? So. Well, you have a fantasy team in twenty twenty TVD I had Lamar Jackson on my fantasy football team this year in last year in the League Jenny and IRA in Yes, I did win the League which was a very nice and fun thing. To have happened, but. If anybody looks back the general manager of my team My wife will quickly point out to anyone that I did not start Lamar Jackson until week, six of the fantasy football season. Some other quarterbacks I started instead of Lamar Jackson. Week one kirk cousins that was over Lamar Jackson, which was a major regret of mine. So you know what I'm not. We're not perfect and I'm not going to say that I'm. clairvoyant enough to predict the future here, but I don't know I like Lamar Jackson prospects in twenty twenty because I like I like the offensive staff in Baltimore and I think they're creative, so who knows? Not Easy you were not using the talent that you had on your roster. The first six weeks of the season I was not last year was my great auto draft fail and I forgot about the draft until round seven I think so I did not underestimate Lamar. Taxes talent, but the auto draft system may have so. That's a safe one to blame. I just gotTa get that out there, so I agree, and you know what I am terrified of the prospects. If you storming back into the league this year with your full drafting capabilities hand that is very That is very intimidating. You know how I I liked it better when I was just on your staff as a quality control system, thank. You said there's only four people in our league. Who really kind of make outside the box picks you and I and there's two others, and so with me out of the mix there were only three who were kind of making out of the box picks for the first six rounds, and then by the time I entered it around seven or whatever it was, it was kind of over it because I had missed the. Most important round, so although listen, you can get sleepers anywhere in the draft. Connor, so I was probably looking at it wrong. Stay in the mental game, a little bit okay laugh topic Connor. Let's do it so later this week. Sports illustrated will publish our list of the ten biggest. What ifs of the last ten years in the NFL before you and I get to it I'll read a few from our instagram page. My the first one which I just got a chuckle out of was the browns didn't suck which not really unprompted Christina. H. Rennes, but still very funny. I would say drew to Miami. That's almost fits into. That doesn't fit into the ten year window in the niners drafting Aaron Rodgers. That doesn't fit into the ten year window what Andrew Luck had never retired and Bill Polian had never retired from the colts which I think is an interesting one. What if the refs rule Jericho Khatri drop in the panthers? I drive of Super Bowl fifty, a catch, another interesting, one, a little bit deep there that one probably a panthers fan, just emerging from from there. What if the Patriots would get punished accordingly for all of their cheating? And what if the seahawks ran that damn football? So a lot of good a lot of good? What if's there, but I? Don't know what's your favorite one. That just kind of keeps you up at night thinking about sometimes. This was one that I pitched for the what if issue a couple years ago, but I think former editor Jack Dickey ended up writing it for the issue, but what if Donald Trump actually bought the buffalo bills twenty fourteen. Wouldn't be a bills right. That would be a safe assessment. Right be. It would have been like trump, water, trump, steaks, or trump magazine right? Yeah, can you run a franchise into insolvency? Possible! Good, question. The raiders are making a run for it. So I don't know. I think it's interesting. I mean I don't know what was when you thought of that. Like I don't know. Where where did your thought process go there? That would have been fascinating. I mean the world would be different well. Forget I think that's the thing is not only. How does it play out with the bills? And do they move? ETC, etc, That's all. You know that's all paltry compared to the bigger questions of. Does he then not end up as president. Yeah I think that would be a. that's definitely one worth revisiting. You can't blame buffalo for everything, but you know come on, guys. Why didn't she just give them a football team that I think everything? Would have been okay just getting so I. One of the ones that legitimately does keep me up at night consistently as as big of a chip, Kelly True Thir-, as I am is what if the titans had taken the trade for Marcus Mariota Chip Kelly remember that year was desperately trying to get up to number two. Jameis Winston is going at number. One Kelly at coached Mariota Oregon. He was creating this entire offense from Marcus Mariota. I don't. Don't know we'll we obviously he would have gotten more time. I think in Philly Doug Peterson would have never gone. gone there and one. That super bowl developed that relationship with Carson Wentz, and Nick foles. I liked that one a lot I don't know that's one of my life's. That's a that's a fun one to game out. Because that was really intriguing at the time, just the possibility of that happening, so that's another good one connor. That's my favorite one and I. Like to imagine a world where you know if you subscribe to the parallel universe theory that there is a chip Kelly Bella chicken. NFL thread where he's won like thirty, one straight super bowls in his constantly on the cutting edge of sports science. That's the world. I WANNA. Live right there. Yeah Yeah I mean the breeze Miami one is is another good one, because does it change Saban's trajectory in the NFL and you know with he and ballot check of stayed in the same division, and how about of affected each of their careers rather than each of them becoming the greatest coach on these parallel tracks right so? Another great. Jenny, Renton story by the way on the relationship between Bell, check and save in which everyone should checkout. So. Yeah, I mean yeah I think that if you want a great way to get in touch with us, is through our QB instagram before shows. We are posting some fun. Things you know we want to hear your feedback. It's a long summer, but we're going to get through it with all of you together, and if not messages at weakside pod at gmail.com. That's weakside pod at g mail DOT COM so. We're going to go into the last little portion of the show with a fun little Oracle, prediction and I don't know I think that. I went back and I was rereading. Of Reading Fantasy football. issue. I was rereading my own predictions and I think that my. Prediction is that I'm a little embarrassed that I. assumed that Miles Sanders was. Outside of the radar, so I will now make a formal prediction that miles sanders will be a top five rushing back in twenty twenty. Should we have a full-time season and I also apologize formally for in that fantasy football. She me saying that he was an under the radar talent when in reality, it probably not going to be able to draft him. Pass the second round, so my apologies. Two Mile Sanders I think you're going to have a great season in twenty twenty. Okay? What spurred that just a little bit of feedback? Feedbacks have really nice word for it. Yeah, and and reading rereading the issue, and there are a lot of people who do who do this for a living fantasy football, and some of the people that are really respect. and seeing how high he was on a lot of their ADP, what they call it average draft position I was like Whoa so i. think it was a little bit of a mistake on my part to advise. Our readers of the sports illustrated fantasy football issue that this guy. You might be able to achieve some value from because I. Don't think he's going to be available much past the second round so. All right. Yeah I think that was. That's a that's a solid prediction. Fellow Penn stater always good top discussion Penn stater absolutely. All right so varietes consensus time till this latest report that the teams are thinking about going to and from road games the same day. Connor. This sounds like a bad idea to me. Yeah, if anything, you should do it the other way, right? Like wouldn't you want to wait? To See at least a little bit of time to see if anyone becomes symptomatic where you already are before than blessing them immediately back home as unknown carriers and letting them come in contact with their family. And people and all that kind of stuff. Yeah I am not sure it makes a huge difference. Either way because I feel like there's just so many unknown variables I just think man that seems like a that seems like a lot of physical toll to to put on someone I don't know traveling always takes it out of you anyway, so I just can't imagine making the flights to and from and then also playing a four hour football game, which I have no idea what that feels like I mean. We know players get on on the planes right after games anyway and. You know that sometimes creates issues. If you're injured or for swelling, and all those things so I guess that's that's all the same, but just feels like a lot to cram into one day, and it seems like it would. Increase the home field advantage now I get the point of you know logistically the complications of staying in hotels and being exposed over extra time because of that but. Fact that this is coming up now, but doesn't seem like a great idea. just reinforces the fact that there's just a lot about playing a football season, and a pandemic has not really been vetted out so yeah I guess the consensus here is just you know. Just wear a mask and. Hope things are sometimes are under control at some point soon. What's your mask What's your mask style lake right now like. Would you own minor just like? I just like a typical New Yorker I just have a black. I have a black bath. I've one that I. Pop filter in or whatever cloudiness that I've put a filter and how about you connor so my big ups to my wife's place of business who sent us home with some ninety five, which was very nice switch have one of those that we clean regularly we have We're looking just sort of have a little bit of a sleeker style. There are black ones that we've made out of like t shirt. material I don't know I'm trying to figure out where I stand on the vanity mask experience. I'm definitely learning a lot about myself. Based on the content of the targeted instagram ads that I receive One that nailed it on the head was a grateful dead tie-dye mask that I could wash and wear out I wear a lot of tied I in addition to Cammo, a lot of complicated patterns that just don't go with anything, but I was like you know, should i. Should I go there? Am I ready for event? And make my ready for vanity masks experience, or is am I against that you know I haven't decided yet? Whether I'm pro or anti Vanity Mask? Okay, I don't think there's any reason to be van mask. No, no I think. It's a fun spin on. A difficult situation I agree I it I think you should go for. You could treat yourself, Connor. Yeah, we all need to take care of ourselves. During this time you know I think that's I think that's the most important. All right well, thanks for reading UP THE TOPICS CONNOR AS! Usual A good slate on tap. And hopefully we continue to get mail from our great and loyal listeners. Everyone joining us on this week's episode of the weak side podcast. The podcast is Jenny Rentis. Connor or we are produced by Shelby Royston. Producer podcast is Scott Brody Ben. Eagle is director of ADITORIAL projects in product. Management is America's executive director of the QB. Keep up with our entire line podcast five days a week by subscribing to the QB NFL podcast for free on apple podcasts, and while you're there, please do us a favor and leave reading and review. It really does help. 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05:47 min | 11 months ago

Eagles Injuries, Lions RBs and Downgrading Le'Veon Bell (08/31 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"What's up fantasy football today fans this is the debut episode of fantasy football today and five and yeah I'm dropping this in the feed for the main feed. But that will not be a regular occurrence just letting you know you're just going to hear the first episode here. What I want you to do is go over to fantasy football today and five anywhere you listen to podcasts spotify apple podcasts, stitcher wherever download and subscribe, and let's get this show started. Another injury for the Philadelphia Eagles this time it's jalen Reagan and other bad report for Levy on bell and much more from around the NFL landscape fantasy football today in five starts right now. Welcome everybody today is August, thirty first. It is Monday morning you're listening to fantasy football today in five a podcast to get you caught up fast on the fantasy news and advice that you need to know follow stream on spotify and anywhere else podcasts for found. Colluding Apple podcasts and Stitcher, and so many places I'm Outta Mazer I'm joined by Jamie Eisenberg. Let's start with the big news Jalen Reiter Attaran his shoulder he's out three to four weeks for now what does this mean for the Eagles offense? Let's talk about Carson Wentz his fantasy value. I mean, clearly it's a, it's a downgrade for Raider who being drafted in the latter half of drafts. Now, basically undrafted unless you know you're going, sit on him for. A few weeks while he's out and who knows if it's only three to four weeks, you know based on the season being so close. So it's it's Glatt downgrade for him as an upgrade for guys like Sean Jackson Greg Ward. J Dare, Sega Whiteside, and hopefully Sean. Jeffrey. You know we don't know if he's going to be back anytime soon but the tight ends booth Zakar Scottish not miles sanders and Boston. But for Carson Wentz, it's just another hit. You know a guy who's dealing with a back injury himself losing his left tackle and Andre. DILLARD. So the offensive line is banged up the receiving core is banged up he's up he still a low end starter. But now he's behind the elder statesman of Matt Ryan Tom Brady, and drew brees and to Sean Jackson I look week one is against Washington. He had a huge game in week one against Washington in two thousand nineteen he figures to be the primary wide receiver in week one where are you drafting Sean? Jackson? Still in the same spot again, we don't know how long rigor is going to be. Also the other side of that Israel comes back Jeffrey comes back. Jackson doesn't necessarily lead this team and targets I don't think he's GonNa lead the team in targets even if those guys are out first -nificant stretch of the season. So I think Jacksonville a guy you're looking at and around eight at the highest round ten probably the sweet. Spot for him better in non PR THAN PR. But again, if you do like that week one matchup which you should, then he could be in the number three wide receiver conversation flex conversation and hopefully he's done this before it's not as Washington he has a big week one time and time again. I Cooper Cup has an ankle injury but not expected to be serious he's expected to be fine so we'll skip that for now. Jamie. Eisenberg. Are you ready for the offer of a lifetime? Okay. Do you WANNA be a New York jets running back? I asked the jets fan on Sunday? If you could have if you love EON bell and you're getting fifteen million dollars a year to go through hell or would you take ten million dollars a year to be in the happiest place on earth? What would you do and the jets fan said while you probably take the money because the money and started overlook that type scenario and you hope you make the best of the best of a bad situation but this is awful. And I don't put this on Levy on bell per se as much as I do Adam gays situation if you are going to try and win game you're GonNa try and lean on Levy on bells much. You can not thirty seven year old frank war so bell is going to fall to a spot where he ended up probably being a good value pick for fantasy players but ADP right now around three around four if you're still taking him in that range, you are drafting him as a steeler not as a jet and certainly not as a jet and twenty twenty but the reports were that he's not running while he's not looking good. So where are you willing to take Levy on Bell? Before you pull trigger. Round five and PR would be the earliest round six in non I'm taking. Ronald Jones ahead of him in non I'm taking my ingram ahead of him might at this point take Brahim moster ahead of Levy on belt in non. But Jonathan Taylor David Johnson Todd Gurley Melvin Gordon all those guys should be going ahead of Levy on bell regardless of format is not a good situation for him because if the receptions come down, we saw the rushing as bad as it could be last year. I don't know what's going to be that much better and again. Adam. Gates. Frank War he's probably gonNA use springboard more so than we like to see for again, a guy who's thirty-seven-year-old and one final quick news item here Jamie de'andre swift the rookie running running back for the Detroit lions he's been out. For about a week now. So Kerryon Johnson, should he be moving up draft boards and when would you take Kerryon? Johnson one hundred percent Gary Now put himself in that round seven conversation. You know again, regardless of format swift was going around five range, and so the gap should close swift earliest is probably six and carry on the earliest it's probably run seven. But if you're looking for a guy to get off to a good start, swift is probably going to have to earn your stripes. I think it's GONNA come in. The passing game because that's what they've been talking about using him in that regard and carry on, they probably want to limit his touches because he has a hard time staying healthy but similar MARLA MAC. You're concerned about John and Taylor maybe having his workload increase as the season goes on and Marlin Matt getting a good start. I think those guys are very similar. I've always said they're very similar but now I would take of on ahead of Marlon because of the opportunity that he has as bad as Detroit, run game has been Still. Been Lead them in touch while he's healthy and this could be a good opportunity for also made up. 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Best of The Herd: 10/24/2018

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

39:13 min | 2 years ago

Best of The Herd: 10/24/2018

"Thanks for listening to the best of her podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports radio and f s one find your local station for the hurt at Fox Sports radio dot com or stream it live every day on the iheartradio app by searching heard. Is the best of the herd with Colin coward on Fox Sports radio. This is the heard wherever you may be in. However, you may be listening live in Los Angeles. Iheartradio, Fox Sports radio and right here. S one joy Taylor is joining me. Good morning. Good morning World Series. We got NBA stuff going on NFL is going to be a huge week. We have we have a packed show today. Today is just a great show this this is such a good time of the year. And I wanted to start with this first and the job heck your first week at a job, raise your hand. If you're driving in your car, don't raise your hand, keep them on the wheel. Otherwise, raise your hand. If you had a first day on the job in the last ten years, you know, what that you're always in that first day on the job fog. You gotta meet a bunch of people. And you can't remember their names. Where's the bathroom? You got the IT guys. Trying to set you up. You got to go to human resources and fill out that first day on the job that first week on the job. You don't know. What floor this boss is on your you forget which hallway to take your cubicle? You're in that first week on the job. I and the job fog and the dodgers were in a fog last night. Warm weather, Los Angeles, cold wet damp, windy, Fenway park, Fenway park's the Corky is park in baseball. This is not an excuse. I still think Boston's gonna win the series. I think Boston has more good players. But the dodgers got a break last night. Chris sale. The as for the Red Sox was not on his best stuff couldn't finish the fifth. It didn't matter. The dodgers didn't look comfortable defensively. I mean good God Fenway park has a garage door in center, you're telling all these guys Nell a National League guys who never played there. Yeah. There's this ballpark. There's a monster in left in a garage door in center, they didn't look comfortable, but didn't manage comfortable. In fact, the only two guys that actually hit one of them was Manny Machado, the others. David freeze, not coincidentally guys who had played and hit at Fenway park before there was a moment in the seventh inning jock Peterson came in. And this always happens whenever you substituted guy hitting the ball finds him immediately. Right. So jock. Peterson comes in. Joe buck with. The call. Listen. Pops it up left side long-run Peterson just ended. It came can't make the play. It's a double the ball. Usually finds the new guy on a cold night. Jack Peterson could not get there. I mean, he didn't know where the bathrooms were he didn't know where the cafe was. He was just dealing with the IT guy you ever gone to summer camp. Joy you at a summer cow to summer campus. Kid, the first two days are chaos, all these kids all these counselors. How do I get to the lake what events do I gotta be part of it's chaos and you're just in the first day of summer camp fog first day at work. Fogg dodgers looked so uncomfortable last night and by the way, Fenway park. I've been to it is so quirky. And so unique from every other park in major league baseball, forget the garage door and center the fans are right on top of you in Los Angeles fans are more casual and they show up in the second inning at Fenway. They show up at batting practice and the right on top of you. It looked dark. It looked cold. It looked wet. It was windy this. This was the classic example. And you've seen this before warm weather team in the NFL goals to a cold weather site or sometimes the cold weather bears. Go down to warm weather Miami. And just melt the dodgers looked out of sorts all. All night. I didn't love a managerial move pitching move. I'll get to that in a little bit. But this this is not a shock. That is the quirkiest home field advantage doesn't generally mean a ton in baseball. It's basically if you got your ace going, you quiet the crowd but Fenway park's. One of those rare spots fans on you whether or not Tober totally loud and intense with all these quirks nooks and crannies dodgers need to show up early for batting practice, take more infield. Because that they even got a break last night. And they just didn't look right at all at all. And by the way, the National League series. They just came out of a chess match analytically driven. Boston's a totally different team. Boston's like here's our nine guys. They're really good better than years beat us. This is not going to be a fight against Mayweather. Whereas jab jab move JAT. Now, this has Tyson is prime. They're coming after you. The hyper aggressive Red Sox put their nine guys out there. They just come after you and not that they don't like analytics, but it's not the brewers. It's not multiple trips to the mound. It they're going to put out there. Same guys. The dodgers went analytics with their lineup yesterday out thought the room and looked absolutely at like they were in the wrong place at least last night. All right. I want to shift to this. And I'm going to get back to some of that in a second. But I got a couple of stories on Amari Cooper. Troy Aikman doesn't like the move necessarily for the Cowboys. But let me let me go to the NBA quick. So. There was a fight in the NBA Saturday night rockets Lakers, and Chris Paul was in the middle of it. He plays to the rockets and Rondo was in the middle of and Rondo plays with the Bron, James. And like I said, you blame whoever you want looks like Rondo Spitz and Rondo got more game suspension than Chris Paul did in Rondo fired back yesterday. He really fired back, by the way, fired back at LeBron's best friend. He said everybody wants to believe Chris balls. Good guy. They don't know. He's a horrible teammate. They don't know how he treats people. I was going to let it rasp at I have kids, and I teach my kids to speak up for themselves and don't let the world tell your story. Well, I would never bring up an athlete's kids. But since Rondo brought up his kids. Let me ask him. This. Do you also tell your kids if you've been difficult every place, you work, you get a reputation, and you're not gonna get the benefit of the doubt here. Tell your kids that that's also part of the story here since you brought him up. The bottom line is Chris Paul is demanding I've worked with a lot of demanding people. You can work with demanding people. I'm demanding. I've worked briefly with difficult people and their their gasoline on any fire there instigators law provocateurs, they're trying to start trouble. All you need to know about Chris Paul is the pelicans and the clippers got worse when he laughed and the rockets got better when he arrived, and he's always gotten along with his coaches, Doc Rivers, and Chris Paul the reputation was players resented how well they got along that Doc Rivers, and Chris Paul were too close Roanoke. Can't get along with anybody Rondo couldn't get along with Doc Rivers. He couldn't get them in a Boston fast enough. He couldn't get along. With Rick Carlisle in Dallas, Rick Carlisle, I covered in Portland, maybe the nicest guy I've ever met in pro sports. Rick Carlisle's, the nicest guy in the NBA. Everybody loves Rick Carlisle, Rick Carlisle could not get Rondo outta town fast enough. So there's a big difference between demanding Chris Paul's demanding. He was demanding Blake Griffin. Hit your free throws. Learn to hit a three Blake Griffin the Andre Jordan being the right place at the right time. That's demanding. That is by the way, Blake had a nice night last night. But he's disappeared. Without Chris Paul so's d Andre Jordan. He demand I've worked with manning people. I'm all for it difficult people are impossible. And so getting bring up your kids about rules, and I would never bring up your kids. But it should also be noted that you should tell your kids that life's a resume based on choices. Rondos not gonna get the benefit of the doubt in this fight. He's not going to get the he's not as good as Chris Paul. Chris Paul has multiple examples where left teams they've gotten worse entered a team they got better. I mean, the New Orleans was garbage. Chris Paul ends up in New Orleans. They have their best years leaves the going to the tank clippers were embarrassing for years goes, Los Angeles, Clippers aren't embarrassing cross down. Lakers rockets were kind of plateaued. Oh, he goes over to James harden. It won't work. Oh, it does. He even got along. With James harden? Who's a guard who shoots a lot? You can say what you want about Chris, Paul. But he's worked with Doc Rivers. He worked in New Orleans. He's working with Dan, Tony. He's telling me who Rondos work with. I mean, tell me nobody that's not demanding that's difficult, and by the way, LeBron and Chris Paul are best friends, and and you just through LeBron's best friend under the bus net. Not good. That relationship. I guarantee a- is going to be strained from this point forward. I mean, number almost say it. But this is why sixteenths five years. Chris Paul's not been on sixteen in five years. Chris Paul was in New Orleans doing a great job. And then they tried to try to middle Lakers in the NBA known said he's too good today. That's not unfair. So we ended up at the clippers you stay with the clippers for years and years and years nears. And then finally you got tired of the clippers dysfunction and went to Houston, and he'll end his career in Houston three stops in the NBA is no biggie. Six teams five years. That's a problem. That's on you sixteenths five years is on you. So whoever started the fight Rana can't come out and throw arrows and sling arrows at Chris Paul. Chris Paul has got a lot more friends in this league than Rondo does. He's a better player than Rondo is. And that goes without saying one more heard the herd. Streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search. Her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like I've said this before baseball managers in two thousand eighteen with analytics don't do much. That's why the Yankees Red Sox managers combined. Don't make as much as the Boise state football coach. And I'm not joking. The Boise state football coach coaching twelve games a year in that conference makes more than Alex Cora and Aaron Boone combined. That's all you need to know about baseball managers. They're not gonna pay any money. They don't do that much. But what they do that. We all see is go to the bullpen. They walk out to the mound. They go to the bullpen. And we see it. It's right there. That's a big decision by the manager who he made the call to pull out. So last night. I it's not that I'm anti analytics, but some stuff works on a volume level on a scale level, but it doesn't necessarily work in October. And Dave Roberts in the San Francisco takes out Pedro Byas who has been on fire was terrible early. But on a fire for a month. He just blew the ball past. Guys. Okay. And Dave Roberts is in his binder. Well, I wanna get the lefty lefty matchup. Dave Roberts goes tactical over practical. And he brings in Alex would well, well, I like the Matt chop and the number say dude Pedro Baya's blowing the ball bass people a man who's pitching the best of his career. He's been on fire for a month. And he's got a hitter. It's not a great not one of the Red Sox. Best hitters coming up and you pull him because the binder I got hold on. I gotta look at the binder and Joe buck with a call. And a good bad ball hitter off handers. That is hammered. Three run home run. The Red Sox open up game one. You know, and John Smoltz. This is driving him. Crazy. A rod. This is driving him crazy. A rod talked about this again last night. Alex Rodman flabbergasted by that movement. And look we always talk about a point guard in order to be good. You have to see the floor a manager has to do the same thing. What metric are they previewed that you take up by who's dominating faces to hitters strikes them both out and make any sense scripted baseball. Does not work in October. It could work during the season script. It baseball. Does not work in October. Yeah. There's a big difference between a hundred sixty two games and the pressure of an October game in Fenway park. Don't over think the room in situations. You got a man who's blown it by people who's never had more confidence. He's had a great month yet keep him in. And let him just listen, man. You see this in sports all the time or a great player in baseball. A rod gets into a funk and loses confidence we've seen. Lebron James multiple times lose you saw. Join Miami lose confidence in his jumper. When. You get pro athletes, and they feel great about themselves, and they got the chest puffed out and they're doing it. Just let them go, man. It's hard enough to be a visiting team from a warm weather situation to play in that stadium. This time of the year. And you got a guy that feels great about himself, and you're going to a binder and by the way last year in game seven of the World Series Charlie Morton pitcher for the Astros a starter. And they put him in the bullpen. He goes the last four innings of the game. Well, we're the analytics on that. They're no analytics say use Charlie Morton starter. No. They brought in a man Justin Verlander, a world-class hall of fame starter. Come out of the bullpen, you go. With man lyrics in these big spots. I trust Charlie Morton, I trust Justin Burland her you this idea that you can use all these analytics pocket protector stuff. It works for a lot of games. But when you get to the Western Conference finals, and it's you know, it's Kevin. Durant? And you got you know, LeBron against him throw that crap out. These are the two ALPHA's in the league. Let them roll who's hot. And I think Dave Roberts last night. I think he did himself a huge disservice. I think the dodgers front office, and that's the kind of stuff in baseball. Now, we don't see managers do much the pitching change. We see them do it, and what it doesn't go. Well, it just sticks out it. It's a it's just a flashing red light. Not not a good, look and Smoltz in a-rod both called this puppy. Be sure to catch live additions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific on Fox Sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app. I want to get back to what was a big story yesterday on the show Amari Cooper of the raiders being traded to the Cowboys. And I'm hearing all these stories about oh, he's not worth the first rounder. He's going to be too expensive. So the latest story Mike Florio says his contract he? Gonna be geared almost fourteen million next year. Oh, fourteen million. That would be seven percent of the cap who cares? Khalil Mack is at defensive player making twenty two and a half million who never touches the ball unless it's a strip sack and he's eleven and a half percent of the bears cap eleven and a half four AD -fensive player in a sport where defensive players are continually handcuffed, by the way, Brandin cooks of the Rams. He is their third most used wide receiver make sixteen million a year. He's eight percent of their cap. Who cares? Who cares? How much of your cap your spending on a position of need? What viscose back to something else? And I've said this for years, there's always this feeling in football that during the draft you just draft the best player available never need. I don't believe that. And here's why if my wife said could you go to the? Store Honey and get milk and bread. And I came back with a rake, and I say it was the best value. And she's we gotta rake. Well, as the best value was off forty percent. I got a rake she'd grab the rate hit me over the head with it because she needed eggs engineered milk and bread. This whole thing about just draft the best player available. We'll have the best player available to quarterback. And you have drew Brees in his prime. You don't draft a quarterback you sell the pick this year. New England Ola says this we just get the best player available really this year. Go look at who. The patriots drafted in the first round. It was not the best players available. They needed to running back because they lost Dion Lewis. They drafted running back, and it was a left tackle guard tackle because they lost Nate soldier. They went to fill positions of need running back and offensive lineman. Those were not the two best players. You can argue both most people said both were reach a little bit of a reach. If you have key pieces like that. You don't may. Maybe you get the best player available. If you need something go get anybody at that. How did that work out for the giants this year? Okay. It's all the it's all talk about with the John think Jerry Jones is losing sleep. On this. Here's Jerry Jones. I'm gonna read you a quote from Jerry Jones, owner of the Cowboys. Here's a quote he had years ago. He said when I look back on my life. I over paid for my biggest successes every time. And when I tried to get a bargain, I ended up either getting it and not happy with it. Or missing. Now think about this in the sixties. This is a gambler Jerry Jones. He borrowed a million dollars in the sixties. A million dollars was a lot in the sixties from Jimmy Hoffa's Teamster union to buy some Shakey's pizza. Chains. Some some Shakey's pizza was a big chain. It was the Pizza Hut of its time. Right. He bought a million dollars from Jimmy Hoffa's teams. You think this is going to make him uncomfortable, by the way, when he bought the Dallas Cowboys fact, they were losing a million dollars a month. Look it up there. Now, the most valuable franchise in the world. When he built Jerry's world. Do you know what the budget was for that six hundred fifty million dollars? Do you know what it costs them? One point one billion that almost it was double the cost. But Jerry kept saying nobody like this. Nobody like that bigger scoreboard better seats nicer suites. And now that's the most valuable stadium in America. Okay. You think you think he's losing sleep because Mario Cooper could be seven percent of the capital. Can let me let me let me just tell you this works. It's an offensive league, right? We all admitted to offensive league. If your quarterback is eleven to twelve percent of your cap that average if your top running back seven percent if Amari Cooper your best receiver seven percent, and you're left tackles five to six percent that equals thirty percent. That's not a third of your cap. In twenty eighteen in the NFL. You you don't think feeling for Minnesota is not worth six percent of your cap seven percent of your cap, and you have Stefan digs. You've got a I don't think it's that big of a deal. Jerry is a risk taker and oil maverick and his biggest successes have been spending a little more than going bargain. Jerry tells you when I look back every success is overpaying in the moment. When I tried to get a bargain when I jumped over a twenty to get to a five either get and don't like it or I missed out on it. This is an aggressive guy. It's an aggressive brand the great successes for the Cowboys have been with aggressive Jimmy Johnson. Remember Jimmy Johnson made that Herschel Walker trade that was an aggressive move change the franchise Bill Parcells aggressive, the NFL changed the NFL that was an aggressive move at the time people like what in God's name is Jimmy Joe guts, grace move all time. Jerry was aggressive bought a team and by the way cobbled together together every nickel e headed by the Cowboys. I mean, Jerry was not rolling in DOE. He took a huge risk multiple loans to buy the cow everything. He's done. Jerry's world six hundred million. No a billion one. So they're not losing the second asleep on this. All right. This is amazing. So the New York Giants. Have just traded defensive tackle Damon Harrison to the Detroit Lions he'd have very good player. Snacks. Harrison. The giants are essentially giving up on the season. They gave up ally. Manning to the saints for a couple of picks next Harrison goes to Detroit given up on the season, and they should at this point. They can't win get draft picks and get some players, right. And by the way, pro football focus says the lions out of the NFL's leader and defensive stops on the defensive interior in each of the past three seasons. Not Aaron Donald this guy. So he's good. We we have a lot of traits happening now in the NFL. We still got a week to go and a lot of trait. So so yesterday Peter King was on the show. We asked him. Why suddenly now do we have all these trades going on in the NFL teams more aggressive, the young general managers in young coaches, don't necessarily buy that you have to do with the way you used to do it. So the younger GM's and the younger people making the decisions are not necessarily married to their ancestors in the league. Plus, it always helps if you can make a trade up through week eight in the NFL instead of through week six so I like to move it's aggressive. He's a good player. The lions are like, hey, but I just want to point this out. Now think about this for a second. So Chicago got Khalil Mack aggressive and Minnesota went paid Kirk cousins, they want thirteen games with case keenum. They went super aggressive and got Kirk cousins and Detroit. Here is being really aggressive who's not in the division. Green bay. I want to give you Green Bay scheduled for the next five games at the Rams at the patriots. Dolphins at home. Not an easy. One at Seattle at Minnesota one in four the bears got aggressive the line. Just got aggressive. Minnesota was aggressive. We know that aggressive in sports is being rewarded the warriors had a title aggressively recruited K D rockets were good aggressively. Recruited, Chris, Paul. Red Sox aggressively JD Martinez dodgers aggressively Manny Machado, just to rent basically, aggressive is winning in sports. Houston. Justin, Burland her aggressive. Okay. Green Bay Packers. Once again, they could certainly use snacks Harrison could use Khalil Mack. Listen to this. This is incredible. So we all admit now that Aaron Rodgers is right. Great probably the most talented quarterback. I think Brady's the best easily. But he's most talented. They are a nine and a half point underdog. Now. To the LA Rams with Aaron Rodgers. Now, I want you to think about that. What is telling you about Green Bay? Don't have any players. His Tom Brady ever been a five point underdog. I couldn't tell you the last time Tom Brady was a four and a half a four point underdog a feel under his drew Brees in the year. The saints were seven and nine seven nine seven and nine with the bad. Defense was drew Brees ever a touchdown underdog. Meet. Meet when Vegas is telling you. It's not like weather is going to be a factor. Sometimes a warm weather team going into a blizzard Vegas is like no shot. This is a cold weather team with a California quarterback going out west. It's going to be eighty degrees. And they're giving him Aaron Rodgers nine and a half points. If vague. Baker mayfield's going to Pittsburgh, he gets eight. I mean so Baker Mayfield a puppy a baby a kid against the all time Steelers who are first or second. The league in sacks. Biggest is like give Baker eight points. They're giving Aaron nine and a half. That is I couldn't tell you the last time a hall of fame quarterback got nine and a half. I in twenty eighteen maybe in nineteen eighty but I mean think about this Sam darnold rookie, nobody would dispute with him about to say offensive line running backs tight end wide. Receivers. Jets are weak jets are bottom third in the league. And all those they have a rookie quarterback, by the way. They're so beat up at wide receiver. They're bringing guys off the street right now, they're just made a trade with Tennessee. They don't have any receivers. They're going to face the bears in cold Chicago in Sam darnold, only a seven point underdog Vegas is like give them a touchdown Aaron gets nine and a half. I mean, if they're not telling you that Green Bay doesn't have any players. I don't know what else they have to say. I mean that is seriously nine and a half is what the Buffalo Bills get on the road. And we're in an offensive era were quarterbacks have never been more valuable. So you've got the best one. Arguably and Vegas is like, yeah. This is this is like this is like the bills on the road with a rookie quarterback. Wow. Wow. Is all I can say what's up? Everybody is John middle confident Rian out podcast brought to you by Colin coward podcast network. If white Colin show, you will like mine, I talk a ton of football tonight today whenever you're listening. I'm talking about ally. Manning, he's washed up the Amari Cooper, straight from Jon Gruden Jerry Jones, you know, that spicy got a lot of Kenyans on that. You can listen to me where ever you. Find your podcast again. John middlekauff, the three and out podcast. Let's go via the coward global satellite network. Albert breer senior NFL reporter at the Monday morning quarterback at great senior. But let's start with this on the Amari Cooper deal. What is Jon Gruden telling you telling I telling the football world moving MAC moving Amari Cooper. What are you telling us? Tell us about it roster. And he said this to me August, he said what he found in January when he got there was gutted they didn't feel like they weren't a physician to contend for championship right now. And so I think we need to stop talking at the raiders in the context of twenty eighteen because they're looking at the at themselves in the context of twenty twenty. And so if you can do that, then you start to look at coil MAC differently. You start to look at Amari Cooper differently, logistically, they just weren't going to give back the guaranteed money that he wanted. And so by definition, he wasn't going to be there in twenty twenty any light Amari Cooper. They just don't like him at what he's going to cost in a year or two. He of course, it's going to cost fourteen million dollars in that option next year. And then you put them out on the free agent market on before the twenty twenty season, and he's bound to make sixteen eighteen million dollars just based on his draft because as you can see that and what Sammy Watkins got last off season. And so I think that Jon Gruden arrived there feeling like the team needed to go through a full rebuild. And so when. He looks at some players as roster that have some trade value. And he says this guy probably isn't going to be here in a couple years. You can understand why that would motivate him to see what he can get for those guys. And clearly you've got a lot of value for both. Now, I think all of us believe we would like the Amari Cooper deal for Dallas for a third rounder. We'd love it for a second round where we'd be more comfortable, but the Seahawks dynasty didn't ever first round pick for three years right in the middle of it. The Rams did never first or second this year. A lot of good teams Kansas City. Philadelphia didn't have first round picks this year. You can win a lot of games. If you feel that like, for instance, the Cowboys I don't think they have a ton of needs. But they have a huge need it wide receiver in the NFL in two thousand eighteen so I'm okay with the move, but you know, Amari Cooper, there's a real divide here on he's not the player. We thought what are your sources and scouts say about him as a player? Okay. So his character was Quyen coming out of Alabama hard work. Ker program guy, all that different stuff. He gets to Oakland his first two years or a guy named Bill muskrat offense of entering twenty fifteen and sixteen. It's guys talked to play four Colin just like Nick Sabin and Amari Cooper in that environment. Purdue's Bill muskrat gets fired after twenty sixteen. What happens well in that building in general and this hit their cars? Well, there's a little bit of a substitute teacher affect on everyone there. And I think there were some problems with the Mark Newburgh work habits, and the hope was bringing in Jon Gruden at that would change in twenty eighteen and they have seen a little difference. It's just not Incan. It's just not consistent. So the work habit issue existed there and 2017 it came back in two thousand eighteen it's been in and out a little bit. They've been in and out with his practice performance in fourth. Now, you see the inconsistency ING in game action as a result. And so the hope for Dallas the change of scenery is going to help him. They're very aware of all they've got a guy in their building. And Doug nuts. Meyer who was his offense coordinator at Alabama. Yeah. They've got they've got some good recon there on who. He is a person he's not a bad guy. Nobody would ever tell you that Amar is a bad guy. But his work habits have been an issue over the course of the last two years and the hope now in Dallas is that as a twenty four year old receiver being traded. We'll make the light turn on and he'll go back to being the type of player that he was two years ago. Let me throw this at you. The bears were aggressive with Khalil Mack. The lions are aggressive with snacks Harrison the Vikings were aggressive with Kirk cousins. And here's Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers at nine and a half point dog to the Rams Vegas is telling you they don't have good players. Are you do you think don't make a move at the deadline? Are you surprised at their kind of passive nature as everybody in their divisions? Going hyper aggressive. I wouldn't rule it out. I mean, I think one thing you gotta remember there's gonna frustration for Aaron Rodgers over the last year. They didn't like they had been aggressive historically bringing in veteran players. That was under Ted Thompson. Now, they've got a new general manager in there. Brian Guenter came up in that system, but has by reputation a little bit more of an aggressive streak to him. And you see the way he moved up and down the draft Ford. Now, of course, they pick up the extra first round pick for twenty nine thousand nine hundred capital. They're very aggressive and moving up and down the draft board on draft day, and they did bring in some veteran players this year. They brought in Jimmy Graham, they brought in Muhammad Wilkerson. And so there was some aggression during the off season. I would not rule out the Packers doing something between now. And next Tuesday. I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm just saying that organizationally. There are a lot more open to that sort of thing. Now that Brian Gunar is in charge, and again, maybe it doesn't manifest over the next week or so, but I think you will see it over the next couple of years and how the Packers operate as Aaron Rodgers moved into late thirty. I've been asking everybody that comes on the show about Levy and bell. Could I make the argument they're going to get a superstar component to an already? Good offense. With fr. Fresh legs, no miles on the tires, and it's all gonna work out fine and Connor will be a backup. And he is exactly what takes them over a Kansas City over New England that in a weird way, this is all going to work out for the Steelers. I worked out for everybody. I mean, I honestly do and what we have to move the money part of it out because I don't think it was smart for love EON bell to pass up money. And it's not going to be coming back. I don't think there was this huge pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for him either. But if you want to look at it logistically now what this looks like for the rest of the year. Yeah. I mean, they know what James tonner is. Now, they probably wouldn't have this amount of all of answers on what he is a player. If Levy on bell had reported on time and on the flip side from love EON bell standpoint, what's is concerned in the last two months. It's concern over the last two months was he's gonna put more mileage on his body the running back position. That's a tough thing to do when you're playing for a contract. What happens now while he steps back in there and obvious Nick and use them in a million different way. But they can also spell him. He can be part of a platoon. They know that James Connor and help them be a little bit more dangerous than a bury their attack a little bit more so bell. I think it's a safe some miles on his body going forward to addition to what he's already saved because they know how to use honor now and again for the Steelers adding another weapon an aren't very good offense. That's learn to play without him off pensively. They're going to be great the bigger questions for for the Steelers, of course, calling or where they have been over the last five years which defense. By the way, just throw this at you. People are saying ou the eagles are interested. Well, wait a minute. The one thing the eagles wouldn't have an a trade that the Steelers need is secondary help. And right now the eagles have one guy they trust in the secondary. I don't buy the eagle thing. Because what Pittsburgh does? Well, as rush the pastor. Okay. Philadelphia's got surplus of that but nothing else defensively, and I don't think I don't think the running back position is a priority right now for the it's not to say that they might not pick up someone with amid round pick. But but historically, they don't value running backs at that level. They like that they like volume at running back, but they don't historically again. They don't go all in on running back and internally. I'm just telling you they do not be running back as their top need right now. Their biggest problems are offensive tackle. Which that is what it is that those positions they've been best in lane Johnson Jason Peter. Those guys aren't performing to the level of their contract at some depth issues. Receiver of the big place where they could make a move is in that secondary. Yeah. The other round Ronald Darby haven't played do level. They thought they would Rodney bowed got hurt at safety. And so the eagles are going to make a move. I know it's love beyond bells like the shiny thing out there. The os are to make a move. I think it comes in the secondary. This is why we bring him on. He's got great information. 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2019 Fantasy Football Draft Strategy

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2019 Fantasy Football Draft Strategy

"To the n._f._l. Talking heads fantasy football forecast show your hosts jeff carrier itself wall. Everybody welcome into the n._f._l. Talking heads fantasy football podcast. I'm your host. Seth law joined by my side as as always jeffrey carrier jeff. How is it going. That's right. That's right big news today. We just released the draft grid that everyone has been waiting for <hes> had comments on twitter and the talking heads nations so needless. Let's say we're going to be kind of recapping that and kind of giving seth. I guess our our segue into the rest of the episodes. This is the precursor which is essentially our draft strategy. I think everybody should get the whole month of august off from work. This should be phys fantasy football. The draft month national holiday spread out across the whole months. I mean i was looking at my calendar. The other day and i got two drafts every single week. I just broke the news. It's my wife that i had to fantasy football drafts while ron vacation back day. She can't be happy about that. I i'm going to be doing that in the hotel and it's <hes> <hes> we'll see how that goes but how you making that up. You got a little strategy on high. We need to have insider tips to help out everyone. It's not like we're the only ones in this position. All the fellow talking heads nation listeners. I'm sure is going through the same pains. I think the first thing that you have to make clear is that this isn't this isn't fun. It's it's it's. It's work right like we work every day because it's you have to be responsible adults right we have to we have to go to work and fans. Football is work. You know watching football all day on sunday day and monday night and thursday night. It's work. It's something we have to do and it's not always fun. <hes> so you know last week in august i told her you know we're going to virginia beach. Obviously as you know we have the live draft and draft the next day but it's it's fancy football with is where the rubber meets the road. It's got the season just a few weeks away and and there's there's no way around. It's not my fault yeah and try and try pitching that to your wives everyone listening there or vice versa to your your husband in boyfriends and that sunday is work in. It's not pleasure to be watching. Football doesn't go over exactly well but that's what we attempt to do. At least i do real quick mention you we're doing. We have a traveling draft and one of our leagues. It's still not too early early. You know i'm sure that most people have their draft set but we highly encourage people to have fun doing their drafts and this is probably the time of the year that you only get to see your friends once or twice college friends highschool friends whatever it might be you know make it make it something special make it something fund fund. That's not just to three hours. We decided to start traveling to certain locations. <hes> reasonable locations where the winner of the league has to choose implementing cool things like that. I really enhances the league and brings people together so quick side note as you mentioned on that set all right opening question jeff. Let's get right into this. This is me kicking the opening question off to use a little bit of a role reversal. Let who do you think is the best which fantasy player provides the best value who who is the best bang for your buck player going into two thousand nineteen fancy season well right now the draft a._d._p.'s are just just absolutely ridiculous and they're all over the place so this answer as of august what date today i guess six as recording. This is going to change probably within one weeks. If you guys remember we did the best ball episode. I commented commented highly on tiree kill and todd gurley allot todd gurley just at best ball draft today so i can get another measurement of a._d._p.'s in a real draft not just using the draft wizard which was very inaccurate when i tried it tar girly had moved up significantly he went ahead and nick chubb went ahead of damian williams went ahead of still going ahead of mike evans for sure so i thought todd gurley really is losing a little bit of that value. I think people are getting a little bit more comfortable taking him and also because people like melvin gordon is dropping today the best person by far as i mentioned when i talk really when we talk about best ball draft is awesome. You had to go out and draft this guy right now. He is going at six point eleven straddling the seventh round on a twelve man zoa graphic. I just took him in the fifth round. I said i did basketball draft and that is the latest i would would take him. I would take him even at the end of the fourth would really want to feel aggressive about it. Fifth round is an easy spot. I mean super easy. We're talking about a guy who's guaranteed fifteen touches. He ed ten touches. Every game that melvin gordon did play going gets hurt every year the upside with awesome actor. We know these middle round picks. There's a lot of good ones but there's a lot that we miss as well in austin <unk> upside right now is absolutely it's the the value is astonishing right now. You have to go and do a best ball draft in grab him right now. I'm taking him in the fifth. I i agree. That's where my well. I'd say us not goes one of my one of my favorites. I do like todd boyd at five point four with a._j. Green probably missing a few games but you're right at that point in the draft where you're taking off an even if you take him in the fifth round like you did your best bali his a._d._p. He allows you to be a little bit aggressive and take him around early. It's still good value. <hes> obviously it all depends on gordon's coming back but the upside is the album. Gordon doesn't come back where he comes back eight or something at that point in the draft. You can't find a running back upside so i just read off op some players that went in the fourth and fifth round last year eighty p wise we had doug baldwin lamar miller jarvis landry of course juju between chris hogan derrick henry josh gordon mark ingram who was suspended for four games and so going four point ten j._j. That was a great pick by people go take marriage. Thomas marquees goo. Is there anyone good here. I mean this brand cooks. Marshawn lynch carl's hide allen robinson dion lewis louis emmanuel sanders jamal williams. That was the fourth and fifth round in p._r. Draft in two thousand eighteen so you're you know. I don't want the people to get so infatuated with these. A._d._p.'s there's first of all your league settings and size of league. It has a big factor do with some of these rankings kings where people should be going in terms of titans of q._b.'s which we're gonna talk about but austin right now is just again. His eighty p is not. It's not corrected appropriately player. That look at that. I think is a._p. Is getting a little bit out of hand james white now a fourth-round running back back. I mean i would rather have austin ecuador james. Why wouldn't you yeah that's. That's a very very interesting one just because obviously we're hoping not hoping but we're anticipating melvin gordon not playing the demand that trade so i mean the way i look at us. He's either gonna get traded. I don't know how many teams are looking for running back and are willing to give up assets in addition to having his free agent signing looming over them <hes> <hes> but he he gets traded or holds is he's going to miss at least a few games. He's not making a ton of money so his situation is a lot different than levy on bells calls. When love eon bell was on the franchise tag doing four point twelve right now james why and just to kind of give you let me me see what i did. In my draft today james white one five point one. I took five point four and three co and basically the same player and he went afterwards at five point ten so james white's is again to use this word trailing. The fourth fifth round. Turn is exactly where i take off the neck cler. Take your pick. I'd probably lean towards for the upside <hes> again. We've seen marlene his floors higher to he's getting guaranteed carries week one. You know it's not going to be a game flow game scrip situation with james whitewater. There's some weeks he just you know we saw towards the end of last season where he's going to be relevant yeah and and we've seen people supposedly have these justified values because they're really good arbutus kevin coleman. Many two years in atlanta getting drafted in the six round. We just about mark ingram last year with four-game suspension so going in the late fourth fifth round so we're talking about what a player that might overtake the running back duties in chargers with team that loves to throw to the running back position listen. This is the easiest no brainer on earth right now and i guess one of the questions that i would have relating to neck lawyer. Whereas where do you think justin jackson fits into this picture because this is somebody that that not a lot of people talk about austin is getting all the attention rightfully so <hes> <hes> justin jackson had his moments last year is the second year running back. Do you see i mean. Let's take a look at justice. Jackson's is eighty pay. You do look at that as a potential like if you get off in the fifth or sixth round. Are you also looking to acquire justin jackson in later rounds yeah and what is justin jackson a._d._p. You're looking at up yeah. I want to see what the updated a._d._p. Is this is fluctuating as as i mentioned before we go into this conversation in the same thing is going to happen with awesome eighty p which is why i'm encouraging everyone to jump in a best ball and do it right now today because because it's going to change every single day with someone like him justin jackson. I wanna team point. Oh two thirteen point round yes so so i would easily take him. There probably would take them as early as tenth or eleventh for for the obvious reasons of oh. He's a handcuff in the chargers system that is going to still utilize the second back and you're going to we don't so maybe he gets the goal line carries. We don't often might get hurt. I mean we're talking about someone who if if anything necklace that running back backfield is so within that he's going to be the guy he could emerge as the guy. We don't really know i would take him right after i would take my q._b. Probably at least as my first tight end if i'm late strategy and then i would look for someone like him price secure most of my pieces i and then look for someone like justin jackson all right so let's move into the strategy. We have the draft grade out which as we talked about every year is is the road map to how you should navigate through your fantasy hennessy drafts important. We always talk about a strategy going into the draft and it really starts with where you're picking in the draft because we've done a lot of these. He's best ball draft jeff where the we talk about game strips james white. There's the draft has his own game script depending on where you pick which players are gonna be available to you who picking in the first round impact sometimes who you're picking in the second third fourth and so on so. Let's just get into some of the the strategy when you look at the draft approaching the draft. Where do you wanna be picking. What picked you wanna have what area do do you want to be picking from the beginning. I think this has changed a little bit because we've essentially loss. I'm gonna call elliott right now. Not a first rounder you're right. I don't know if i'm the only person i think that's probably a pretty good consensus right now and his agent just came out and said that he's not playing without a new deal so it's a game of a game of chicken right now to see who who caves i so right so we've lost two running backs in the first round so this brings me to the top spots on that i want to choose. Which is the top three. Sometimes you want to be in the back end of the draft. There's value which in this year there is at the wide receiver position but the reason i liked the top three spots other than the obvious factor of you're getting this elite running back. Stud is the kind of the trickle down effect that has on the rest of the draft. If you get one of the top three spots you're going to get you're going to get the star running back and assuming that you're not doing a third round reversal and told me and league debt early third round pick really sets you up for a really nice the player that could fall and i've seen been in a lot of drafts were someone has fallen from the second round some players such such as keen allen could be their carry on johnson has really risen up the boards and he's a good candidate especially p._r. Leagues with the release of theoretic. Maybe if you're in standard league marlin mac would be right there. Amari cooper hooper atoms t y hilton these are people that are going into very early third round. That's not gonna last at the end of the third round. We might be picking. Someone like a leonard minded four net. I think there's a big difference in skill there. If i get a combo one of those early third rounders with my top stud running back that ed is part of the factor of why i'm picking top-three your thoughts on that set before i move into the other factor i i uh-huh this year you want to be in the top five and even if i'm not even worried about picking you know four and missing out on saquon kamar and mccaffrey obviously i would love to be in the top top three but even if i'm picked for i'm fine just going ahead and pulling the trigger on somebody like an andre hopkins even though the gap between the honor hopkins isn't that begged between him and somebody like a jew jew tyreek hill or michael thomas where you can get at the back end of the first round but like you said what i really the reason. I really want to have that fourth. The overall pick or four pick is because the early third round with no third-round reversal. I'm getting a crack at one of these players that present it themselves before a big drop off like the hilton amari cooper carry on key now and this is the guy i would target. They're potentially melvin gordon and but even even as of right now. It would really be hard for me to pull the trigger on somebody like him. But you wanna you wanna get in early. Picking the third round pusher yeah so gore is going to be there and then you know as we get closer everyone kind of make their own decision on the gordon scenario. You're also have early first rounder your again guerrillas moving up the boards but especially if you're in the fourth or fifth spot you have to crack early in the second round which is crazy ned so here's the second factor so we have the early third round pick which is a factor of getting a top three but the other factor is these wide receivers that we really like. There's so many receivers in the fourth and fifth round that that if you're at the end of the first round then i'm just i love juju. I love tyree. Kill there. I mean i'm most likely going weide receiver at least one of those two spots. If not back to back i mean twelve and thirteen doodoo tyreek hill. I absolutely love unless i go james conor around picks twelve or thirteen which you know. Most people just really aren't. I haven't seen that you know unless you wanna get delvin kirk second his his injury. Concerns me so unless you get one of those running backs in saying that you like. I don't love a ton of them. Besides gurley. I want to get these wide receivers in the fourth round so i'm actually planning out my strategy. If i too many receivers in the first or second i'm like overloaded completely zero our strategy because i don't love as many of the running backs fourth and fifth round. If i get my stud running back in the first and maybe early third with like a mac or johnson i can go back to back in in the fourth round with the likes of stefan digs ataman robert woods brand cokes kenny golladay chris godwin cooper cup calvin really tyler boyd. I mean if you really really feel aggressive enough maybe even a._j. Green and it's through him in there. Don't love them in that spot but just the ones everyone else. I just mentioned. Are i mean over two hundred point wide receivers. We're getting the fourth and fifth round. I want them on my team. I don't want to be in a position where got too many wide receivers. I wanna pivot to a running back so so that a mine and this is interesting because we always talk about how you know especially the first few rounds you go to the player right right and then they've all things are equal. The tiebreaker is always positional need now. If you don't have a top pick if you're picking ten eleven twelve knowing that we the way we outlined it that there are so many receivers that we love going in the fourth and fifth round are you. Are you going to take somewhat of a lesser player player in like the james connor dalvand cook joe mixing and joe mixon. I guess is going in the first round but are you taking one of them. Even though you might not like their upside over somebody like a jew jew retire kill because you know that you're going to have you know plenty of cracks and a lot of these receivers in the fourth and fifth round well to your point. I'm gonna stick to my board. I just know from when when when you do practice drafts and you know your board and you know the a._d._p. Appea- then you know the way that the draft somewhat evolved to some degree now. I'll take juju and terry kill over connor but i'll take connor honor over o._d._b._c. for example connor a lot so there's a chance i take him but there's also a chance at both do i could take juju at nine overall i i i might take juju at six overall. I mean i i just i'm in love with juju so there's a good chance that i do end up with wide receivers because they're the best option there's also a chance that ah i could end up with juju james connor because i'm at like a nine and fourteen or something like that or whatever the numbers are nine fifteen so so to answer your question. I'm going to stick to the best player available knowing that in the fourth round. I'm still drafting. These wide receivers offers regardless and i do think this is a very interesting year. Given the melvin gordon situation given the ezekiel elliot situation given what happened with todd girl or what's happening with todd podvig early in terms of his is a._d._p. And the concerns over his knee that i think outside of the top our top six right he had saquon mccaffrey kamara tamara david johnson hopkins. I think that those are the very reasonable top five in any particular order. I think though six on i i think this is the draft more so than any of the year where you you really you. You shouldn't be worried about taking juju at six even though you might look in his a._d._p. A._d._p. says two point oh three is okay to draft some of these players overdraft them if you really believe in them and don't get sucked into a ah caught up in their in their quote eighty p because it's wide open from six to twelve you could go a number of different interactions and they would all be reasonable. Yep i completely agree. Don't you know over the players that you like. This is your draft. There's small margin of difference even though it it says two point zero three and you wanna take them at six seven overall and i'm gonna go best player available at picks one or two or one zero three. I just know that at one or two or three. I'm getting running back. I'm guaranteed that so i'm just trying to forecast and set myself up better for that fourth fifth round but in reality. I'm still doing the same thing. I'm still hoping that you know the right. People drop to me in the second round like i would. I'd be okay with ideally if i could get targeted are going to fall to me in the second round and go back to back running back then i'm absolutely jumping up in the air because i know that on the third round turn i have more wide receivers available to meet them running backs. The likes of alan or hilton and i'm going all wide receiver. I mean it's it's. I would love that combo if i get that to happen but who's your dream combo when we go over this and i'll read read through this four fourth fifth round receiver list one more time <hes> for our listeners. <hes> stefan digs jillian ataman robert woods brandin cooks kennedy golladay chris godwin cooper cop calvin ridley tyler boyd in a._j. Green is kind of the wildcard. Who's your dream combo if you can. You're trying to forecast ahead a couple rounds. Who's your dream combo out of that group. If you you can get to them fucking get two of them. My dream combo out of them and i know that step on digs eggs is definitely earlier. He's on the edge a._j. Greens probably the last one yes if i go digs it. Probably you have to be poor to be a little bit more realistic. I would say something to the likes of of who had like. This is gonna sound boring. This is just going to be boring jeff. You know but i don't know woods in cooks. Just gimme wasn't kirks interesting. See i miss i. It's really hard for me to because. I like all of them fairly equally. I think i'm a little bit lower on gaul and a lot of people <hes> i i digs is digs. He lasts to the fourth round or or middle fourth round. That'll be it's very unlikely so i kinda throw digs out <hes> <hes> early fourth for sure. I just did one today where he went early fourth. Which is why. I put him on this list. It's just obviously everyone else. You're waiting waiting twenty four picks so i like i like godwin and boyd godwin employed interesting. I mean boy. That boy was one thousand yard hard receiver last year a._j. Green is going to be other saint till we three and even then he's not gonna be full speed that he's over the age of thirty and he's just it seems like he's gonna be. He's gonna be pretty injury prone from here on out so i like tar boy. There's more volume guy. Ella goblins with no out move already talked about this nauseam. No adam breeze no sean jackson bruce arians. I how much they throw the ball in tampa love godwin but i mean you really can't go wrong with getting robert woods and brandin cooks and watching the rams games would be like the best thing in the world has ever now. Let me real quick before we move onto beginning portion and it would just basically covered five rounds sounds so this is a pretty important but one of the strategies to is and i don't know if we'll have a whole episode on this or not what we have done it in the past where we talk about players at our age of over thirty years old and the reason i bring it up because edelman's on this list a._j. Greens on it but other than it's an injury elements. The only one that's over thirty years old out of this fourth fifth wide receiver and the reason eshelman over might have more upside than i'd say everyone. Besides digs is because he's thirty three and at this year. I'm just not taking the chances. I'm just i am not. I like woods. I like it cooks. Gimme gimme godwin considering elements going in the almost exact same spots as all these wide receivers. Do you feel like you're going to end up any shares of ataman well. It depends on the league. I mean you as you know as well as i do. We're in a couple of weeks. A lot of new england. People and adamant is a very sexy see commodity because he's a new england player. So if i'm gonna league with a lot of new england players i could i could absolutely have some shares gentleman <hes> because i think and and you kind of hit on a his he has more upside a lot of people associate joint element with being boring white slot receiver who has a high floor but he he actually now as is presently constituted without offense. He has more upside than all these players because they have no gronkowski. Nicole harry is a rookie. They have running james. James white's very involved in the passing but it's basically julian edelman in. I'm not really worried about his age. It's more about health and that kind of goes hand in hand with age. I yes you can say the older you get the more susceptible yard injuries but i just think he has such a great connection with tom brady. They have such good chemistry. He is going to have a ton of opportunity because they're really nobody else. In that offense that you can really rely on outside. Maybe james white and i think as long as joining elman can stay healthy. I think he has one. We're really good season left in him so i could absolutely see myself having some shares of him but i guess you know it's do you take the chance like you were saying if you can also get something like a robber woods who's going to have similar numbers who maybe doesn't carry the same amount of risk that jillian does because he's not thirty eight years old and he's on a better offense probably tell us what it comes down to tell me that people n._c. My thing on element is is more of a little bit of us conservative blanket statement with over thirty year olds but i'm not taking over these people on this list okay. Let's just take a._j. Green off this list because he's hard to gauge right now. I'm not taking element over digs. Woods cooks godwin in cup. I'll start taking them over golladay and ridley. How about you so i agree with you on god and really i would take element over both of them. I'm i'm probably taking over cup and i'm probably taken taken element over then. I'll take him over godwin. I'm i'm probably taking him over boyd sign on kind of going all over the place the only players that i that i would not take elon over would be digs godwin and that's pretty much it. I think it's <hes> the other one's really close. It'd be have to really think are super close. I think covers cups objectively look at it. I think going over up would be like the smarter choice for sherman coming off an injury and that's the big thing. I mean cop i mean he was an animal when he was healthy. Last year i just look at woods and cooks and i know they can all. There's there's room for you know there's enough room for both of them to thrive in the rams offense but i just wonder if the rams offense takes a slight step back and you have robert woods brandin cooks and cooper couple couple healthy are robert woods you get diminishing returns there to search for a certain extent when you also have you know as as opposed to having julian edelman and getting you know probably ten targets game so i think i'll lean towards settlement. I think the only two that are clear for me as i'm taking digs over ataman and i think i'm taking godwin over element. I would say that probably the only receiver off taught my head outside of the second around outside the top two rounds only receiver that has a shot at over one hundred and fifty plus targets all right so let's talk about quarterbacks quarterbacks. I know this is depending on the league. You're in and we did a lot of questions about wind. You start taking quarterbacks if you're in a two quarterback league. It's a <hes> you know completely changes everything but most league formats are one quarterback league. Where are you. Where are you taking quarterbacks max. What is your quarterback. Strategy to quarterbacks is a whole nother animal and which you know i think it deserves its own podcast or something like that to q._b. Leagues but in a one q._b. League i'm probably looking in the seven to ten range depending on the depth of our starting earning rosters so one of the things i didn't mention in kind of the opening is you really need to understand the value above replacement level when it comes to the q._b. In tight end specifically in your leaks well what i mean by that well if you have to start one quarterback two running backs too wide receivers and tight end that is dramatically different than if you had to start one quarterback too wide receiver the two running backs three wide receivers and say to flex your now adding three additional positional players on top of everyone else he had to drop so what does that do well that means your pool of players that gets selected from the running back and the wide receiver position gets dramatically the deeper which means a the players at the top the elite players become that much more valuable decreases the value of the tight end and quarterback back because unless you have a quarterback league or a double tight end league those players essentially have the same draft pool which is why you should really really really look at the valuable replacement because these a._d._p.'s are basically it's so tough i mean we can't have thousand different a._d._p.'s for a thousand different rosser settings but essentially they're like oh. What a to running back to receiver. Maybe one flex set in like tight end. That's where these eighty basov love. If you're in any league that has any deeper rosters which i know several people do just listening to this podcast. You know what that means. Is this these titans. When you see see you know george kill going. The early third tribes kelsey going in the second. This is false information so that's that's a roundabout way. I wanted to add that in there and so if you need that information actually that's part of our draft grid release at at talking heads nation dot com <hes> so go ahead and download that there's a customizable sheet there that you can plug in your league settings and all that good stuff the seven to ten range which is where i start feeling comfortable. I've got all my both basically all my starters for the most part maybe or maybe not my tight end. These are elite basically quarterbacks kind of falling a little bit because of his calf so he may or may not be in this range. Put him down here. Andrew luck matt ryan shawn watson drew brees carson wentz who like lot calamari russell wilson ben rothlisberger cam new in jared goff jameis winston philip rivers. I mean you're picking the gamut. If you've got you know four point for passing touchdown league six point passing touchdown league we've had several of these quarterbacks have ended up in the top ten last year <hes> <hes> this range. I think you want to be out to you. Dropped your position players and obviously you said the deeper your league is as you know the more roster spots. You have the more starting roster spots. You have the less valuable core becoming one quarterback league now the seven to ten range when i look at that range and what i always do with one quarterback in leagues is i obviously i wait which is a a revolutionary concept. I wait and wait and wait until i feel alike. I'm in dangerous territory. If i wait any longer and the point for me and i think the seven to ten ranges spot on because when you go to the james wins assim philip rivers big ben that's the area once you get below that you have brady and dak prescott which would be perfectly fine with them if you miss out on him though that's where it gets pretty dicey and you do not want to be in a position where you're relying on matthew stafford or derek carr or josh allen or kirk cousins like i wasn't in multiple leagues last year so i like the seven to ten range. Is there a one quarterback in that range that you're targeting and to the the extent that you would you would target any quarterback in a one quarterback is their quarterback that you like in particular that you see yourself having multiple shares of yes definitely carson wentz <hes> <hes> he was high in our q._b. Tears forget which number tier he was but he was very high up there. Carson wentz will be one of the only people on this list that i would draft say like there's a number of these. Q._b.'s left and i could easily get someone else in the ninth round but i'm like you. No what i really want. I want to give them the eighth. He's probably one of the few that i would do something like that in and i want you to answer that question to but i also want you to answer this one as as well if if you can think of this one of my favorite second quarterbacks to q._b. League and it's kind of crazy to say this but as tom brady you just mentioned outside of this range right so i like to go a little bit higher upside i just i don't know how many times i'm going to bring up this best ball draft. I did today but i got carson winston the eighth and then i went and got tom. Brady out even know what it was like a thirteenth round or something crazy. We know he's going to start every single game. He's gonna have some high upside upside games. Of course i know there are more throwing running team these days but we still thomas. Tom brady here plane the a._f._c. east in the thirteenth fourteenth fourteenth round or two q._b. league. He's i love him as a as a second q._b. If tom brady is your second quarterback and into quarterback league you you nailed elliot draft. Most likely i mean that's a really good position to be and this is coming from somebody who who had matthew stafford and kirk cousins as my first quarterback and a couple of the two q._b. Leagues so tom brady is a sure thing. He's he's not gonna make a ton of mistakes. Not gonna throw out of interceptions. He's not gonna he's not going to contribute any rushing yards. Somebody like russell wilson murray or <hes> lamar jackson well but he's going to be steady and that's really what you're looking for from your second quarter back. You don't necessarily need the high end upside to have these monster onstar games. You want somebody that can kind of you know just be steady for me the core back in that range than that i really like and he's kind of on me outer side of that range and i also love him as a second quarterback in a two quarterback. Leah's dak prescott if i think he's a great second quarterback back to he definitely had presents more upside. How do you value him with the say zeke's not gonna play all year so you want to actually make that distinction does does it hurt him at all tiny bit none at all. Give them a boost because he on the pass more. Where do you land i don't. I don't think it makes a huge difference. I think obviously zeke you. Have they're going to have probably more their offense is going to be better which always helps the quarterback but zeke just get so many touchdowns. He's a touchdown machine so i think if i had to lean one way i would say it helps deck. Maybe not in real life but for my fantasy perspective. I think it helps dak and i also think you know they're going to. I've always felt that they needed to open up the offense more. They need to allow him to run more into throw down the field more this year. He has amari cooper. He goes into the year with mario cooper. We got him halfway through last season and i just think he's in a contract track year and he's somebody that can provide rushing yards for you. I think dak prescott is he has the also has high upside and we see that with amari cooper or to kind of go hand in hand i think he has the weapons of the cowboys are going to be good and i think with or without zeke. Dak is somebody who is very steady as a second quarterback but he also has that sneaky upside upside game in and game out so he's somebody that knows a._d._p. Is in the eleventh round. I think doc. I think that's that's where you see the drop off right after dak right after him. You have lamar jackson. Jimmy g. kirk cousins mitch trubisky so i liked act because he's got a spot where i wait and wait and wait and i feel like i can. I can get a lot of the value in that. I passed up on an earlier rounds with other quarterbacks but i'm not in a position where i have to settle for somebody like kirk cousins <hes> and even jimmy garoppolo so i like dak prescott. I think that's kind of a sweet spot. I think you could easily take him in the tenth round. I think him and tom brady are fairly close. Yep i like dak. I mean again all of these quarterbacks. I think anyone can make a really good argument for besides. Maybe like a couple that might slightly disagree with it doesn't have much upside. I'd rather rather you pivot to someone else but this is why you wait on quarterbacks. It's super deep and tight ends and another position. That's always shallow shallow right outside of in. There's no rob gronkowski this year so every year. The tight end position seems like it's it's more becomes more and more of a nightmare nightmare travis kelsey zachary's george kill as clear-cut top-three cream of the crop significant drop off after that with o._j. Howard howard how are you tackling the tom position. It seems like i know you had no. I was on obviously several leagues with last year. You had zach seem like every single league. <hes> <hes> which is a great was a great luxury to have. I was in the streaming tight end position myself. I had air bronwen leagues where i left out a little bit there but but what's your overall approach to the tight end position this year i highly don't wanna get any leap tight ends. I just think they're going. I mean just a tad bit too early again. Our leagues that we play in our so deep that just has so much trouble drafting one of these these other highly skilled positions players over one of these titans. Oh i really if i can get them at the end of the third round. They're falling a little bit kettle in in ursus falling a little bit but i don't think they're going to fall into a spot. I like them. I would caution anyone trapped in them. Before pick twenty eight you know early third rounder. I would wait 'til lisa middle third round at the very minimum womam and after that i would avoid the middle round players because the middle round is just become interchangeable year in year out last last year. Trey burton was eighth tight end. The people even know that kyle rudolph was the seventh awesome hooper was six. These people were going. You know ten anthro after the tenth round so what i would do. I start looking at least round eight. You know kind of our strategy is to reuse your around. Seven eight is when you start looking at your quarterback and you're tight end. One of the one of the ones i look at is vance mcdonald just because of upside he finishes this is the tenth tight end last year so i like him and as pricing may sound seth another another person that i don't mind is jordan reed. Did that was atrocious last year i i know his injury concerns are huge but when he plays he's pretty solid he had one hundred twenty points in twelve games last year so just playing liam the weeks that he plays and say he'll get you ten points right you know so yeah i think my prototype ends always if i if one of the top few stud tight ends falls to me at the right spot like i want them or i wanna wait in stream tight ends because what happens is it always seems like you overpay a further quote unquote next best tight end. Whether it's this year it could be eric e. Bron or jared cook or o._j. Howard our even fifth round seems ten was deal last year too yeah. It was great and he's somebody that i want to talk about because i wanna make the case for george cato we talked about how he loved the fourth and fifth round wide receivers right. There's plenty of them in the fourth and fifth round to choose from the first round and second round potentially go running back running back. The third around seems to be set up pretty nicely. George kittles a._d._p. Is three ten r u t i wanna. I wanna ask you a question here. Who'd you rather have george killing third round or t. y. Hilton to a hilton close see i think it's i think it's closer than you think because and this is just last year's numbers eighty a._d._a. Catches for george kendall compared to seventy six tyreek hill thirteen hundred zero tilton t. y. Hilton hilton how many games which normally doesn't pull that it up. I will just just so does play most of his games. That's why i like thai hilton this year. I mean i i just he did miss all right. He meant he missed two games right. Okay so eighty catches for george kill thirteen hundred seventy seven receiving yards for kiddle as opposed to twelve seventy four tyreek hill six touchdowns for kim for <hes> for the entire kill for for t y hilton five five touchdowns for kiddle. My point is kittle has the positional thing working in his favor because tight ends assoc aloe and kittles got a lot of upside. Jimmy jesus back jack t. y. Hilton i think is he. Does it every single year so maybe we take him for granted a lotta times but i look at that and never had over seven touchdowns. He's not going to be a double digit touchdown guy and he's a wide receiver. You can get those in the fourth and fifth round. There's plenty of them. I think there's a strong case to be made for taken. Take in george kettle or zakar is is accurate falls but you know specifically george cadle over somebody like a t. y. Hilton we can get those receivers in the fourth and yeah well. Here's the here's the argument that i have is just a simple too wide receiver to flex league which some some of us including me and you set play more than that. There's a projected nearly sixty wide receivers that come off the board sixty so compared to who won tight end which is probably going to have not not every person's going even have to see you. Don't even have twenty titans coming off. The board now granted a lot more water zebras in league so again valuable replacement plays a huge role in this scenario in that is kind of my my driving driving force on on t. y. Hilton i'm just pulling up the difference here <hes> so i got to protect for two hundred twenty four points for kitto. Oh and i've got a hilton for these amount of points over two hundred and fifty but this is is where i think that kid is getting closer going where i'd like him but if you really look at valuable replacement it's georgios favor for sure. Well not not if you have what i'm saying is not if everyone is drafting five or six wide receivers zepa league where three wide receiver coming off the board starting and you you have to on your bench easily if not to nap i i have a projections for five and a half per team in that scenario. You're going so deep on receivers that the valuable replacement really puts george kit will really in the fourth round in terms of valuable replacement which again i'm okay over drafting some of these people if it's like okay yeah but you know to a hilton saws do great or kiddle could still do out perform some of these lower end people. You still have to hit on times like that that difference of a half around. I'm okay someone going up in taking him if they want just in my where i'm at right now now is definitely end end of third round which you said he's going three point ten so i'm really seeing them too many times there that late but that's the earliest earliest i was. I would consider even then. There's someone like sef on dig sitting there so tonight u._c._l._a. Hilton as an example because you don't love them as much. Do you go kid over stefan digs all day i don't i don't i'm not there now. I don't think i'm all right now. I don't think if i'm on the clock and building my team. I don't think i'm there yeah i mean you look at further down down in the in the draft. You get someone like emmanuel sanders in the tenth round or someone like austin hooper. He'd be like the equivalent so what i'd rather have. I know there's a lot of a lot of factors how roster cise all that stuff but who would you rather have emmanuel sanders and george kibble or somebody somebody like austin hooper into hilton to me. It's to me it's not even close. I'd much rather have you can always find the receivers later in the draft when it gets to a point where we're tight ends and you're getting people that could get zero bombs. Austin huber had six hundred and sixty receiving yards last year four touchdowns. I mean i n and he's one of the i s probably a second or third to your tight end. I mean he's somebody that's going to be a top ten tight enough the board so no you bring up a good point. I think that daddy specific example is a good analogy of. I think that your example sounds better you know instead of hilton and hooper birther again who does not when i like. I like to have hilton and mcdonald you know because that's someone i like that factors in like digs mcdonald versus versus kittle and and sanders. I guess i mean yeah. There's a lot of scenarios and this is we talk about get two running backs and tight end and then to sears sometimes the drafts not gonna go perfectly george biddle my goal in front of you or you might you might get davante. Adams adams you my volunteer lab and my drop picks. I mean you've gotta take it as a communist. I'm taking kit will definitely in front of someone like a four net. Were i know i like mark cooper. A four net. I have henry like on avoid on so many different levels on draft grid but i'll take digs probably over kittle. I think just in terms of my deep leagues start three wide receivers. That's a huge difference starring three mandatory tori wide receivers but in front of in front of the woods category too so again right there shuttling the third word for bench. I mean we we kind of we always talk about our strategy because it's important to fill up your bench for depth and mix it up with you know high upside guys and also low-floor kinda plug and play guys that we talk about. Let's go go through each category. As far as the bench tragic goes in terms of different types of players. We look for to fill up our bench when we look at kind of liquid bench assets this new one. I put down there so you surprise for you. I explained explain to us what liquid bench acid liquid bench assets and this is what we're doing here. The talking heads just being revolutionary. Just like our draft grid is eight talk like reading off a teleprompter liquid ben question mark <hes> so if anyone should understand what liquid assets are if if you have an asset like a home. That's not very liquid. You cannot turn that into cash right so that's the idea one of the things i really realize last year more so than other years because i had a one team several injuries jerk mckinnon the day of the draft he went down to montana freemen week one john was bad. Well that allowed me to do is is really be aggressive on the free agent market especially early the an have open positions where i'm not holding these spots for these quote unquote people to break out <hes> marlin mac eventually got dropped because he couldn't play philip lindsey. Was there week one. Those are two acquisitions. I made and there's several examples year-over-year on players. I either god or missed because i was holding onto you know say someone like nick <hes> but never turned into an roy's freeman for example. I got roy spree. Many might start playing better being on that other to stick so liquid bench assets. Are people people that you need to be able to throw away in turn into cash. Turn turn into you know tangible assets after week one k. because after we're going to have their philip lindsay surprises now you can't be holding onto these people like a decay metcalf jalen samuels that's a different category of people and in hoping that they perform well and your whole benches filled with those people so if we have a six-man bench i'm saying allocate bench boss to liquid bench assets these are the carlos rose hi mike davis. Some of these people might kinda fall into categories matt brita. Michael gallup might be kind of high upside but you could. You don't like how they use. Maybe he's not getting enough snap percentage. That'd be a huge stat to look at after week one with a lot of these players devin funchess. Maybe you know people you feel comfortable throwing away the you know mike davis more involved than you thought he would be is carlos hyde more involved or is your draft have two weeks early and you don't know if there's going to be an injury to damian williams or something like that and then you can throw them away right before week. One set your god look. I was gonna say looking at this last. Mike michael gala matt breda. I thought you were going to call them liquid assets because if you had to start any of these guys it would kind of forced you into some heavy drinking. No i know i know this is tough to necessarily nail down people that you want on your team but are good to throw away after week. One think about that category and about a player that fits both of those statements you want on your team but you're willing to throw away at two week one because normally anyone you have on your team. You're not willing to throw away after week. One you like well. I mean i mean he could get more touches jalen samuels. You could on winning for an injury. He's the handcuff. No the idea is we need a revolving door so we can add in better people on the bench because correct me if i'm wrong set but there there are several times especially on as a deep league roster nearly of six mam bench your rosters full. You're looking at someone on the waivers and you you can't pick them up and this is a situation that i ran into only last year. Sometimes having a really really good bench is a gift and a curse. It's good that you're deep and you have a good bench inch but then when somebody somebody good becomes available in free agency you really can't make a move on them without making a trade to free up a roster oster spot or otherwise. You're dropping player that you really don't want to be dropping so i love that approach. I love having these guys that could have value week one so you could start if you had to write as much as we joke about the day drinking associated with having to start michael gal which i do still think applies to michael gallup's particular player situation but they're also players that you can test the waters if they put up a zero bomb or they're not getting the plane time you can also just turn them out. Pick somebody somebody also i mean i like if you have someone like a miles. Sanders and let's say david montgomery right and not like there. This is a bad example or not but to your point about having a deep good bench you know if you have too many emmanuel sanders too many of these rookies your what's the upside of having all of them. If none of them like actually can pass a certain level. I mean one manual sanders is enough to fill the emmanuel sanders role which is like the plug and play role right so don't have three of those guys on your bench. That's kinda useless. Gimme gimme gimme idea of some plug and play guys that you like they kind of fit the mold of emmanuel sanders those those guys that you know there you can put them in your lineup at any given point of an injury that occurs or you know somebody has held out you can plug them right right in and you know you're getting a solid eight to ten eight ten points. Who are some guys that you think that criteria now positionally it might matter a little bit more if you go more running back back or wide receiver heavy heavy but a million sanders would be one from the wide receiver side and then painting barber will be another great option right. You got a buy week filler. He would be another one and someone like the shawn mccoy. Maybe now just read a report as we're recording this devon single military's getting some reps with the ones but if mccoy's week one starting running back keith would kind of be like a plug and play kind of guy running back spot so oh yeah with plug and play running back either for a quote unquote starter who maybe isn't great but you know you're guaranteed touches or you're looking for like a fifty fifty split running back. Even maybe like us. You know a sixty forty split like tevin coleman last year going into the season would probably fit this role right <hes> yeah going into the season kevin coleman. It's been a perfect example often equitor before the season would be typically a a decent example always going very late in always touched a ball. A few times have a good example and i look at somebody like lamar miller who you probably wouldn't fit this role just because he's gonna probably go who early in the draft right but lamar miller ideally would be the perfect plug and play guy somebody that you don't wanna have to start because he simply doesn't have the upside and again. We're talking strategy here. You could get lamar miller and wherever draft around you need to get him in which not too fond of but if you do afterwards you can go pick up your terrell. Oh henderson your mouth sanders your mom rashard pennies of the world and then that way you're hoping that one of them overtakes overtakes lamar miller now research wide receivers and we talk about emmanuel sanders who i think is the quintessential into central plug and play. He is like a luxury if you have him as as one of your bench players as luxury yeah you could start. If you were to tell me you're in a league that requires you to start art mandatory. Three wide receivers and one flex in amino sanders was your flex i would say that's pretty good and he's on your end. She's going so so crazy low. It's it's ten tenth round. Actually i was going a little bit later thinking of my best ball draft from today but <hes> <hes> but yeah it's a very solid solid round in a great spot for someone like that that you can rely on for poultry rely on quick quick note on emmanuel sanders only played in twelve twelve games last year seventy one catches eight hundred sixty eight yards and four touchdowns this guy does it every single year if he can stay healthy and put together sixteen i mean. Do you think there's a chance not not to get too off topic on a male sanders but this is a chance that joe like they're actually a little bit better with joe flacco than case keenum. You think there's an upgrade. What are we doing well. That's an upgrade but here's the reason why i don't like main sanders more so than just a just a bench like let let him fall to me. Kind of bench guy is because the joe flacco. I mean i'm not excited about the broncos offense. <hes> fading philip lindsay you know to the moon and this is a perfect person for what we're talking about which is a bench plug and play other than that. I'm not getting too excited. You know if he's gotta start for you. Okay okay like you said but again like you're probably still hopefully you have liquid bench assets where you're going to be replacing manual sanders as the starter the poor guy i have paxton miller trevor siemian brock osweiler case keenum now joe flacco feeding philp lindsey of the moon is is gonna be coin is the new jeff jeff carrier ism jeff ism but it's just very feeding him to the moon sounds pretty harsh but yeah probably another topic for different conversation. We talk about players to avoid but <hes> so the upside the opposite of plug and play which i think you were getting to the high upside players again. You got sixpence spots. Try in you know balance out the players with with these types of players lakewood badge assets plug and play in your high upside. We've already talked about him here. Rashard pennies your decay metcalf alexander man's madison trick wants smith jalen samuels these the people we like having on our team like this is not difficult to have on our team. <hes> the more difficult challenge is obviously getting these apparently liquid bench assets that we want to trash up to week. I think it's going to be very important. I want everyone to do me a you know a boat of confidence that they would at least dedicate one liquid bench asset to their team and then let me know who that player is on twitter email nation eh n._f._l. Talking heads communist curious that who's gonna qualify for everyone's liquid bench asset hashtag good bench assets i think and ah high on the high ups category these handcuff running backs are always always like the tricky ones because everybody wants to have a couple of handcuffs on their team because as if they're on the starting running mate goes down there you go you have the one of the top would be free agent commodities in fantasy on your bench. What is your strategy with handcuffs as relates to the players like how many two of six bench spots allocated to the high upside variety mm-hmm. Are you okay with both of those. High players potentially be in handcuffs like jalen samuels in madison well so first of all. There's a difference princeton jan samuels in madison at least right now going into the season projected wise right like samuel medicines appear madison's pure handcuff jail. Samuels might potentially be not a fifty fifty split type player or he might be the starter. We really don't know yeah and most likely i believe that connor is going to get most of the workload. Shameless is gonna mix in like tyreek hill. That's kind of how i'm looking at him more workload. If james caan james connor goes down but but because jalen samuels is the type of player he is he likely still not going to get a tremendous amount of more work but like awesome neck lawyer who might not get all the workload and justin jackson utilize. He's still going to get more so than if melvin gordon was there. You know same thing with jaylen. Samuel probably still get more. If it does happen to connor we're madison. I can't use them ever. I just you know he just pure delvin cooks. Gotta go down which has happened a lot recently but there's a difference now to answer your question. If i had to have to alexander tight madison's on my team i would not be in favor of that because i'm never never really have been a pure pure handcuffed person. The only time i've really really am is one is if there's <music> a very consistent injury situation in front of the person which alexander madison has any pretty clear cut person who's going to be carrying unloaded because what ends up happening is even when we think it's quote unquote so and so person like say out in l._a. With the rams with real henderson i mean do we really know is going to drill henderson. He's a rookie marlon. Brown played well last year before he went down <hes> go across the league to every team behind christian mccaffrey <hes> <hes> behind stamen williams it really going to be only carlos hyde for the most part. You really can't project that. I mean what was the year that kansas city jamaal charles went down. Everyone is going to be now's davis right picked him. I guess watch our candidate west wrong. It wasn't dave so that happens all the time so i shall away from those types of pure hint cups and people on bench but yeah if you liked him atom on their one or to balance it out and this is why we give you the road map to having subjective view to building your team yeah. If you haven't been spot you have opened the i mean i'm fine with collecting extra. Hey quote unquote handcuff and then so you just swap them out after week one. If the guy doesn't get injured you it's kind of like your your liquid bench asset only he don't have any value in the short term but if if keep a guy for a week if he doesn't get if the starter's injured then you just drop them so <hes> <hes> now with one quarterback leagues i mean mrs we get asked this question every now and then <hes> if you have so you're in one quarterback lead. You're starting quarterback if six bench spots. Is there ever ever a scenario in which you are raw string a backup quarterback. No no i can't see one one is going to be some quarterbacks. They're always quarterbacks available always available. You know even if you want to say oh. I'm going to go have to colin murray and immune if he's a bust well hey. I mean if you're playing with twelve teams you playing with fourteen for crying out loud. Even if you're playing with sixteen we we play in two quarterback leagues where twenty four starters set and there's still plenty the star so there'll be plenty there graft draft one and and execute the bench strategy as we just described sounds good all right. Do we miss anything to do a quick recap of quick recap. Eh just threw a ton at you in the most perfect world scenario. Here's what we want to do. In each of the rounds one through eleven ready get your pens and paper out or you can go download the draft grid. That is a round one through three. We're going to try and get the top of the draft and get two running running backs in one wide receiver in the first three rounds then in round four and five. We're going to go after that that juicy that fourth and fifth fifth round heavy loaded wide receivers. We're gonna go back to back wide receiver round six and seven wearing a back to the positional spots probably look for a little bit more upside <hes> <hes> wherever you like those rounds and we'll talk about more of those in future podcasts then rounds eight eleven. That's kind of where we execute. The end of our starting rosters astor's we get our starting quarterback begetter starting tight end in rounds eating eleven and that's the that's the approach seth and we have everything laid out in the draft grade which you can download right now at talking heads nation dot com. You know we kept it. Real simple simple real cheap. It's five bucks is going to be probably the best investment you mean your entire life. Go talking heads nation dot com download that you also get the value above replacement values which also comes with auction pricing and all of the all of that is on a customizable sheet anything else i missed south of me and i feel like we've covered a lot. I feel like we gave us some really good info. Here's a great asset to go and download. I'm stoked for this draft this season. I feel like this is going to be one of my best. Seasons seasons me too me too. I'm pumps. We've got a busy busy few weeks ahead of us so again. Everybody goto talking nation dot com download the draft grid. Get it before your peers. Do <hes> start start studying up. Get ready for your drafts. <hes> we got a lot of a lot of content coming your way future podcasts outcasts including our our same player different round which is going to be okay. We just just an absolute dandy so we are the n._f._l. Talking heads ed's jeff until next time listening. Thanks so much for listening to this episode of the n._f._l. 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Pick, Stick, Avoid

The Nat Coombs Show

22:21 min | 1 year ago

Pick, Stick, Avoid

"To See game first place wins a million pounds and because putty power fantasy games last only as long as the game week we'll have a winner by Monday you could pay someone to lay your clothes on Sunday evening checklist meal prep done clothes laid out and your fantasy. NFL team picked for Paddy Power Fantasies Massive two point seven five million pound price hello and welcome to the net cream show presented by paddy power fantasy daily fantasy show and and as a reminder spies too dumb Dan essentially is you have to have both pliers to do well to get your points for the stack you're exactly I and think okay well out of that if there is a team work quarterback has a number of targets take the Tampa Bay bucks he usually goes into Godwin but one week you can have it was obviously an incredibly difficult die for the Falcons School two point six fantasy points which is extremely unlike him one thing that I suppose I didn't see coming was the injury stack obviously a tandem from the same team anything if the receiver if their quarterback is going to go off the passing offense is going to go off there's a go to guy you can double down and cash in obviously was a clear game changer in sort of a letting him make such a small total was it was a tough day already next week's time we've mentioned it sort of joy I know I know I had some good peak some in particularly avoiding met Ron Fluid segue into this week start where you're gonna I'm going for Russell Wilson and Taylor Wilson at eight point six thousand pounds and tall talk of tin in them as well I think we're looking at late Seventies Vegas Copier Var thank you you know every time you mentioned any of my look is deriving from the seventies over Mike Evans having a standout day God doesn't get and look in by Winston wins big either way right so this worth bearing a mommy looking at the stack that's exactly right and I think it will be so much that it was almost like the visual white noise was stunned I it is beautiful and with the with the glasses that have at seven point two that's funny that we should do it this week because of the back of last weekend it was uncharacteristic from Russell Wilson Musette through first interception which has you K. Youtube Channel Look at you makes me a little bit is look at what was going on in this sort of visually noisy outfit that I call my life me one thing gang in the house are very good but a broken you down what do you mean we'll tweak I`ts and when I walked into the building today here as being you just you didn't really look at me and it's fun but essentially this week you notice across the board no matter what pick it's actually been a really difficult things are in daily fantasy and it's all about some not gonNA air out I think you're going to be chasing the game that's what happened right they added how stop it up four touchdowns and they went above and jokes they didn't get didn't get a piece of it but you can look at the stocks yeah no I think so you know it's probably something we don't do enough he's he's reflecting on what was a peaceful league or very very good waking we ignore the bags anyway but that's exactly right that's true and also mostaque had kirk cousins had twenty nine points he's being late over the last three weeks of most as we have I W- what points he only get but how much money you actually spending at the moment I'm looking at a night point six for Russell Wilson and I'm thinking yes okay he's coming off a really tough awesome thank you maybe it's Reno private about very much accessible week females too because well time too big shelf on the seat but he completed twenty or forty one passes for two hundred and forty one yards one touchdown and of course that infamous interception which I did mention vp but not in the Russell Wilson mahomes show Aaron Rodgers Damasio Ranaldo level I think he's going into Cavani due averaging twenty four point four fantasy points per game site I think it's a pretty it's a pretty strong peak and then of course we talk we've same with we'll decently outs for on there but at the end of the day it's really the risk comes to wards your perceive you don't know what the quarterbacks feeling on the diaper as you rightly said quarterback die for you standards this season but I can see a breakout game here against Denver Jakob as Justin Twenty fantasy points a game is around fifteen go on with Jacoby ty move value has jacoby seven and a half ty seven six are not being as usual Italy but it's difficult to not have to stack right sometimes with a stack and I went last week similar thing Matt Stafford in kindergarten this what is going so I figured I think their lives don't massive on the weekend rush fifteen fifteen hundred seventy yards caught one of four targets to the loss against the pats but he has after all these ridiculous outfits take into week eight for you to just go yup normal adult like city way to our to our list is that it w is on ESPN. I point that I made that seems to be a very difficult because generally when we say our big you go on to category soon it's financially guy and beak and it's going speak when it comes to you feel like you get yourself in so you don't you don't always have to look at the stats I mean I wake up and I think numbers that's how I work we yeah it pretty much looks look at Dan as as Wilson's five again at some at seven K. averaging just over thirteen fantasy points book guy yet for the first time this season topped four yards per carry in the seas gang stronger which is a nice little title there and he's also facing Jagua side that allows four point week but I think that's why I'm going with that because of that the bounceback Atlanta's well who would just dead exactly right sites to be a bit of a revenge game and at the moment foreshadowed Sumati because we'll find out very shortly but he value on the stack because you've got your eyes elsewhere for a little bit maybe that's a really good point okay cousins I thought that was quite hot take east kirk cousins let's go let's such as you make about the stock and we'll get into this shortly with the boys any thrown picks all season long I think he is sneaking into a couple performance tyneside hanging outside but not sticking to the you don't have to blow it all on the stat and you can look for value if you're on the fence on something you can shave a grand fifteen hundred off the stock and plow the extra money for defense thanks to be particularly hard because generally you know you say you go from McCaffrey. Ipo I think he's entered the nine thousand nine hundred six six daddy seriously this week have gone for live Eon Bell Seven K. admittedly I'm GonNa say he's averaging twelve point fantasy points per game so that's it's pretty good bet this disappoint is a really good one lock it for touchdowns for most in this year so I can see them carrying on cashing in against Atlanta love that on bogging pick got my eye on that and I think there's value in that for sure but you copied ty is my what about going big where are you spending the cash well again it goes you dreamed numbers exactly wrong wake up it's straight to the mirror today she's like what's that movie with the the mass equations on the Board I went for human the stack but Stefan digs at one point you thought when Adam feeling when out of the game also hello you're GonNa really go for Steph on dictating what workout but twenty nine watching the MVP conversation coming off the bye kyle and still stays in the team that's been announced this week so he's going to get another start as we know McCaffrey a fundamental plant do you think McCaffrey where he's sitting right now I would arguably say he's the Golden Charter fantasy at the moment nine point six is so much money in daily fantasy but it to be that Go-to guy like McCaffrey twenty seven point three fantasy points per game is averaging go big nine six blow on him now let's take mvp out of the question against the forty niners. McCaffrey have to patronize reviews about his fantasy value in particular he's just having status and he's very is com or kyle starting for the for the panthers yes the forty niners decent defensive course and is in San Francisco but I would argue that means they'll go look even more to me the big on him logic man and also if you think about the nightmare that Donald had to see nightmare against the patriots then you think eight yards per rush the season which ranks eighth worst in the League so you think at some point there's going to be tuning point with bill and if it's going to be the AAC he's not GonNa get anything lower than seven he's only going to get more expensive if he has a break game side that's why real is really difficult on a play like McCaffrey that you think is going to lock and load once getting ready let's it down so yeah okay speaking of six ground under your gun yes that's value margin that I have a bit of value in life generally generally when we say anything on the six I take that literally or no you back pay cut a second tier he's on the list scoot companies on the long list so I'm going on the on the fence to that but I'm going t y daughter the third string running backs tight ends that really haven't made an impact anything just over six was really wear it looks like you're only going to see just go he's going to get the money back essentially he's the closest thing you can get an absolutely aware objecting to short thing right Yep we're going to look to establish the ground game just to calm things down a little bit it's getting gave him more looks as well and you mentioned in the Backfield to like the seven K that is that is I'm quite aware that normally you if you're on the fence about someone but they cost four thousand pounds four thousand pounds but I've got mahomes this bit but take a look at them anyway obviously unbelievable breakout game fame hundred twenty six thousand three touchdowns of twenty seven carries against the giants last week the value is is looking this week that's sutton gets my vote are we worried about Joe flacco yes this is this is my buggy receiver because you think they're going to click well with the value you can find a ground there fifteen hundred off get a three and a half grand defense supposed to five grandee then you could blow that all right literally used for the guy you hover around the five and six I guy lack meat force if you could get three take absolutely absolutely they pay me smart pick essentially Imagine Christine Rodd glorified by Donald this week that is where the money to go nine six McCaffrey love this Eh and this is about managing the budget got that sixty k. you go to spread it around so you can shave as a safe to two and a half grand off your stack combination or for a quarterback money back so yeah I struggled and I have gone disappointingly for my sake of gone for six thousand pounds so I'm right on there it is legit it's will allow it thank you fences in the NFL right now I've gone to the same game but of gone on the Indie side and Zap Pascal now like I said it was probably going to be the bigger maybe doubling him then it opens up a bit space Pasco as well maybe is buying high in the sense the big last week my head is being turned a little bit but McCaffrey or whatever else and you guy that's not gonNa make too much of a dent but we'll say by like that I had him on my shortlist as well but very generously MAG balancing uh-huh Valley this week so difficult way you looked at it you go anywhere between that four point five and five point five margin yeah it was mainly appreciate you taking cheap picky doesn't necessarily qualify for Bahgat but six one for chase edmunds six one so he doesn't technically qualified the court side at the moment I'm just backing this wait for six K. so the trade of course with the Menu Sanders to San Francisco Matt Damon bloomber one six hundred receiving guy it's normally I feel like this is probably wouldn't sneak into my value peak given where and you've got that David Johnson Chase Edmunds Tandon Mattie Berry show earlier in the week and of course Matthew Berry went off about Shea Sevens at the start that we're going to look up that clip is brilliant we've going full and again I mean I don't want to this isn't a cop by any means but I really really struggled because you know as an enlisted with specially by wake I don't think so I still think he's obviously he's the main meant to be looking for but when you're going four weeks that Poli something's wrong with these games something's not sort of unquestionable top target you could also make the argument that he probably was water-saving number one and all that but right now making him Denver's Cleveland have this Sucker Punch Elementary Beckham has been underperforming season yet he is obviously one of the best wide receivers in the NFL the game everybody piles on replicate week after we but given the values I think interesting of course Arizona going against New Orleans about that and my one of the best gone four strike contests without a touchdown which is really which is really poor and given what we saw on the weekend in particular for his fans across the board but at the same time you feel up against the seahawks that are out for revenge I think it's going to be a very difficult die across the board for Atlanta given the fact he's gone all right like that I am avoiding Beckham this is a risky pick because they're playing New England I would expecting them to win the game comfortably but obviously subpoena Pascal five seven and represents a decent look you had a big game last week over one hundred yards couple of touchdowns if they are looking at closing down right and I think in particular if if they were playing someone else this week I wouldn't take it into consideration but against Seattle I think it's going to be really really tough on them of course we've we've seen the reports that Matt Ryan is questionable at this guy in particular with that sprained ankle and for me symbolic that but if we were bending Jerus- a little bit and you're saying value I think chase edmunds and six one next decent to me I don't know particular feels like it's almost a relevant if Matt Ryan applies if he doesn't if he doesn't I obviously we're going to see the receive is probably going to struggle when the backup quarterback but don't like it for seven six it's risky when when playing the game of dial daily fantasy especially if admittedly if you're quite new to the sport of NFL as well uh-huh in obviously for for this conversation particular at anything on the six but you can still find value at the it doesn't have to be on the six to necessary that five weeks without a touchdown emotionally MOCEANU leaving does that give any bearing on this the effect on me looks no I looked the Beckham road ten point seven three fantasy points a game he's averaging this season I mean that's ridiculous in those any one receiving touchdown that is comments against Baker Mayfield some leading on that side back to common theme today with the value or lack of it at seven thousand four hundred I think he's too much of a risk to go down could be that gave the beckon goes two hundred yards three touchdowns and Mayfield to him finally click but I think is unlikely against this particular paper it's incarnation and she's unbelieveably defensively as we know the secondary in particular tearing Sam Darnold and the jets apart I can see them having a similar similar up because he be benched Jason Saudis Bench last week in his regular fantasy so evans often he sees Geeta somebody has a brought up that sort of thing I am looking at the Carolina Panthers Again San Francisco tend to be at three and a half ax second interceptions with nine on the year Jimmy he's been pretty safe for the ball to be fair so I'm not sure that's necessarily a massive issue really profound four hundred thirty six receiving that ranks twentieth out of wide receivers a very very poor season for back risk pit gang because he could blow up and I'm aware of that on stage the the story that he's San Francisco as wonderful as it has been being unbeaten you feel like at some point that we were going to fall off like an emmy this week whoever's playing Miami I should say wasn't going to pick Miami Steve Because of the plane just to clarify that the Monday night football and this is only Sunday pigs yet Sundays early because they considered values to six point one fetch icies is excellent and what about avoid avoid plays that you don't want it to go anyone yes this week I'm going for the giants he's the era out to him a little bit more but given the value and again going back to that fifteen hundred quid difference between someone like them and say the Rams Da Five K. which is up against Cincinnati to follow your line of thinking through that's a nobody when you're picking a strong team you think is going to win comfortably against a team that is disappearing foss this season by fifteen hundred difference GonNa know a handful of ten big nine in any particular position and you gravitate towards junior you just do but if you don't enough the one it's very similar to Americans like over minute graduate you Google but yeah so again it's the two categories and look down and is it like not locking at all I very much feel that's that Atlanta going to be a packet of chips and all straight without a touchdown for Playa that's worth seven point eight thousand pounds admittedly is it's a lot of dollar and I think he's going to get giving up seven passing touchdowns is here as well so I wonder if San Francisco win whether they do it on the ground or not obviously is signing menu they'll be tempted to if he starts to it's it's a trap door pick because at that cross it's found that match up it doesn't feel good speaking of defense where you're going well unfortunately the hawks are very common take your chips guarantee that what do they make the shirts well that's the problem it's like a red rag to a bull right so unfortunately not this week after all this guy for the seahawks at four point nine as I touched on there with the conversation you know the drill by now Gary thanks for this one Gary what will be he also gee what will be the fantasy impact of the potential tons of drew brees Nick foles and can she's a great solid panthers deep as Harriet away it's in San Francisco Yes San Francisco unbeaten I like the value their their lead the league with twenty seven I'd be cheaper so as a way we suggested that it's probably he's last week starting Cuba meant you just think different teams that will rely on different things against different positions you almost have an argument for all three of those but essentially ran up the question you'll see an impact because obviously they're starting quarterbacks will be back in the side whether or not they start is another question but essentially you will say like bridgewater he's value will be like the panthers more good man no I look back on that and you just feel at some point again if you break away from these dimensions between real life and fantasy you think at the dunk tend to have the full workload when they come back right away so essentially I say go for it because they're going to only be cheaper and it's one of the last one days only nine pounds to enter and last entry by six PM Sunday Patty power fantasy hate waiting love winning patty fantasy rules apply eighteen plus begun dot org AH essentially they've valuable down so it's worth it because you think I if they're not starting if they are starting don't get a running because these cube as drew brees definitely starts back into the team defoe's back into that respective teams well I suppose it's a difficult question sense because they're all three very different quarterbacks in three they have a good one a big that and to some of the cash games there are

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Hour 3: Le'Veon Bell

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

37:11 min | 2 years ago

Hour 3: Le'Veon Bell

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This product contains nicotine nicotine isn't a chemical. So when you see what is happening with the Pittsburgh Steelers who appeared to have righted themselves after some difficulty starting the season. When Levy on bell saw them losing and put a monocle up on Twitter. It was a monocle. Correct, Mike, it's leaving on bell hasn't had a whole lot of comment. But I think it was a monocle. It was something in the Monica Lhamo. Gee, this is what journalism has become. And what do you do? Now that the Steelers are back in first place. They've taken their rightful place atop the division and James Connor appears to be doing some of the same things that lady on bell did. What do I do if I'm lovey? I'm bell. I stay just what do you make of the situation. What do you make of the idea? I know that five games ago we were talking and I was saying because the offense lineman in Pittsburgh had come down so strong publicly on Levy on bell. I was saying they had to start wondering whether or not they were real good at their jobs because of how bad they looked early in the season. Now, they know, and, but they seem to be pretty good are James Connor seems to be reproducing that or something close to lady on bell. And although he's fumbled more. He's had three fumbles. Yes. But he's had a very very good season, Dan. So, but I would say to you though. And this is why I don't think that this is a system development, even though James CONNER has been good. I think they still have the two best skill guys in the division. And therefore they're on top of the division. Like they've got the best quarterback in the division still. Right. And they've got the best wide receiver. You might go AJ green over Tonio Brown. And and and then you've got I mean, they've certainly got the best two receivers in the division. No question about it. No. I think you're right. I think what you just said is they they have the best. They had the best quarterback in that division. I mean, not saying a lot when you consider it's flacco Andy Dalton and Baker Mayfield who who might be great. But right now, they still have the best quarterback and they have the best wide receiver. And they might have the best running back in that division. Even without having Levy on bell on the roster. So love EON bell. That's the interesting part of it to me is what does love EON bell do because I still think if you Levy on bell, your twenty five you're young everyone knows how talented you are someone's going to give him money. He's just trying to get the free agency healthy. That's all he's just trying to get to. When's he coming back? Right. He's coming back. You gotta play him when he comes back though. Right. Got you have to. I don't know. We'll do we know if he's coming back. He's the the the in order to get the accrued time that he needs to make all of this world worthwhile. While he has to show up here. We're halfway through the season. He has to show up here. Either week Tanner weaker eleven week eleven in order to get what it is that he's sitting out for which is freedom next season. He's gotta do it. Right. But what do you do? You play. Correct. Even though the offensive line hates him. You're getting a fresh levian bell of that point in the season. Afresh Levy on bell who SOGA listen. I know how good James goners van. I'm sorry. Levy on bells a lot better. Sorry. Also, they could have James Connor an lady on bell. Right. Like every team in the league. Now that strong they've got they've got two running backs that they can they can go to. But this has been a surprise. I don't know the the Pittsburgh Steelers being able to keep that production at that position. With John Bell out has spoken to at the beginning of the season. It looked like a real smart gamble by Levy on bell. And now the the system has spoken on the idea that running backs are disposable because if that guy's disposable than who's not. He's the best running back in the league. He's producing in in terms of the running game. They haven't really had a drop off. No bell is more of a threat, catching footballs, better teat. Look, they are a better team on bell. Nobody's disputing that. But lady on bell is in a contract fight over value. And the Steelers are stubborn on look, we we like you. But we don't need you. And today it's hard to argue that they do is AJ green during a buy week is headed off toward toward to go. See doctors about his feet and the division. Right. There is done if age if AJ green can play the neither can Andy Dalton right? They're still I mean, not ranked very high in terms of yards per game. I mean, they're they're twenty first in the NFL. Their offense is a lesser version of itself. But what I'm saying is in terms of winning and in terms of value paying a guy the way he wants to be paid lady. I'm bell doesn't want to be paid like a running back. He wants to be paid like a wide receiver top line. Receiver because of what he does with pass catching. There is no disputing that. James Connor is not lady, I'm bell. And there is a dilution by degrees. The fact that he's playing in there, but Pittsburgh is still with a diluted offense still five to one I wouldn't use that money that kind of money on a running back even one as good as Levy on bell. Especially since you have a guy an offensive line is proven. They can block for anyone and a running back who's not as good, but still very productive. I'd use that money. Elsewhere someone else will sign Levy on. But if the Steelers I don't think it can after so what would you do with girly? You you wouldn't give anybody girly? But I'm asking you. You're saying you wouldn't give him that kind of money you'd give it to girly. You give it to Gordon who you give it to anybody. I don't think I I just don't think in today's NFL giving the money that kind of money quarterback tight money to a running back is very smart. I just don't. So I don't think I'd give it to anyone that position seems to be interchangeable, Mike I'd like to go through some football sound here. Gimme some good. Mike Tomlin sound on this subject. Still needs letting Belfast with has greatest Qatar's fine. You know, we haven't spent a lot of time focused on it. Because it's not within our control those decisions lady onze, we need volunteers, not hostages. So we're focused on the guys that are here and working in James is definitely and that miss. There ain't nobody volunteering Tomlin. There volunteering. You will take away the paychecks. And you will lose your volunteer. Let's hear some more sound from football people. Do you have anything back there with Rex Ryan talking about how fast I recall it? Yes. Look at a talent around him. I mean, you got a great tight end. Kelsey, you got this. You got the cheat out there. Tyreek hill the fastest player. I've ever seen the only think Bashar and him was that the jumble. I ran through last night the only faster than that. I'm just saying like the talent is phenomenal. Now, I understand how fast he thinks. I didn't before that jambalaya ran through him. Do you have any sound of Rex Ryan ripping Marcus Peters? Yes. That Rams defense. Do you see serious issues there for L I after that first loss? Well, I do I think and it's Marcus Peters. I mean, this guy you trade form big-play corner. Unfortunately for him he's given up big plays all over the place. And it's not just yesterday. I mean, this guy's been burned the whole season. And this is what happens when you have a guessing gamble corner. And you put him as your number one corner. He couldn't hold up and the thing that I that. I really dislike about Marcus Peters. Not just as style of play. It's how he acts on silent. And all that clearly he's in a straight cover zero the everybody sees it man across the board. And then he gets burned for seventy yard touchdown. And the first thing he does he looks around. He's he's a corner that's playing without a stinger and. Do that you're not gonna last and he's got no competence. And and trust me, his teammates have no confidence in him. So he needs to put up or shut up moving forward. Marcus Peters has been very critical of his own play. But I'm just curious, Mike. Do you have any sound back there? Dan Mullen, ranting about anything. Do they keep score someone wins and someone lose? I don't care what we're doing. Thumb wrestle me. Right now kick in. I mean, come on up. I gotcha. Right. You go run stadiums. I'll kick your urine keep scoring someone's going to win and someone's going to lose I want to beat. You don't have that attitude and a Walker him. You gotta Trump. What really what do you do it? I think Mohan would win a thumb wrestling gun. Big hands really put lunch put it on the poll. I want to hear that sound again from Dan Mullen, but just put it on the poll would then Mullen be thumb wrestling champion, they keep score someone wins and someone lose. I don't care what we're doing some wrestle me right now. My you know, what? I mean, if you wanna come on up. I gotcha. You right. You go run stadiums. I'll kick your urine keep scoring someone's going to win and someone's going to lose I want to beat. You don't have that attitude in the locker room. You got a problem? What really what are you doing? Now, admittedly, I might work in the wrong business. But I've learned here as I've approached fifty that competitiveness is not really much of a virtue. My Jimmy sound back there. Jim Harbaugh singing about anything perhaps Don Brown. The top thing. The most impressive thing to me is Dom Brown. I'm reminded of the old jingle in the seventies. When you said, Don Brown, you said it all. He's the king's king of defensive coordinators. So great man are starting to feel good about himself again. He's. Special brand crazies. My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom my first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance good. It's it's it's like a cigarette. But not I don't miss smoking. At all. Like, I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette. Ashra lingering odor make the switch and J U L dot com slash sports. Warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine, Disney dictates chemical donlevatar. I had a dream last night about the show that Stu gods was filling in for Joe buck on his podcast and Allison called me to tell me what a great jobs through God's did. And I realized that dream because Alison would never praise God. God's would never fill in for Joe bucks podcast that may or may not even exist. And if I did it wouldn't be good. A lot of factual errors in your dream. What a weird dream. Stugatz. So that's the height of your fantasies. Gear. Well, maybe it was a nightmare. I don't know it happened when I was asleep. Thank you, Gary. Hey up these live at our show with this two guys on ESPN radio. So the saints won the game of the weekend. And drew Brees wasn't sacked at all that was Aaron Donald and Dominic and sue on the other side there and he gets rid of the bowl too quickly. The mastery of the position is such that drew Brees is completing seventy six percent of his passes. Incredible. He's got eighteen touchdowns and one interception. And I'm just sure the one interception with somebody else's fault. Couldn't have been that he made a bad choice. And maybe an end of the half hail Mary. I'm things find out for gonna take deeper dig deeper and tell me whether this was a legitimate interception. That drew Brees threw or whether I can blame someone else. But got I find this part. Just riveting you've been making fun of me all show off air saying, Dan. When are we going to study that Dan Fouts taped together because I said, I wanna go back in the archives and see if my eyes lied to me about how much improvement. There's been from the precision of the quarterback position. I believe that what we're watching right now from Philip rivers. I'm not even talking about it at the top of the food chain with Brady and Rogers, I'm talking about the next level where breeze and rivers and rothlisburger are. The precision is astounding like, the Mahomes has been great, and and he's been precise. But he doesn't have to be as precise as these other guys. Correct. Because the amount of open space that guys are being schemed in to make it. So he's got a larger margin for error. He he's he's a little more reckless. But the idea, Mike. The ideas did this start with Peyton Manning that we should be. We can be halfway through a season. And then a quarterback in the NFL whole-home has eighteen touchdowns and one interception. It's pretty amazing. It really is that completion percentage of seventy six point highest-ever that'll be the high that would be a record. Would it not this? I think it would be there five quarterbacks who have a completion percentage of over seventy percent right now one of our core. But there are five quarterbacks who have that completion percentage. That's incredible. Think about that. It I've told you this before you'd probably tired of hearing it. But if you haven't seen it, it's amazing. I wonder if Lorenzo has gotten access yet to this video I have asked him to put on our television screen of this sport science of drew Brees competing against Olympic Archer and being more precise from twenty yards with a football than an Olympic Archer is with an arrow and the thing that's happening. I just don't have any recollection of is. These receivers always being hit and stride. These receivers always the Paul is. If drew Brees throws something at your feet. It's because there was a rush or something on the on the plane went wrong. And then you watch these Nathan Peterman play or James Winstons play or Brock osweiler's play. And you're so spoiled by this video game that drew Brees is playing that other imperfect quarterbacks looked like they aren't accurate at all breezes lone interception came against the Vikings just a couple of weeks ago. He was a last starting quarterback to throw an interception. He was facing pressure. And he slightly overthrew Michael Thomas and Hairston Smith picked him off. I feel like the Vikings should be given a Super Bowl trophy for that. I think we should just give them one and say, congratulations, you intercepted debris. I'm watching it. Now Thomas could have gone up a little bit earlier and probably gotten a little bit higher. And you're right, Mike. It's the first time that drew Brees has been rushed the entire season at three Vikings coming after him. He did. And he got hit right as he threw the ball. So that affected how he threw it. Because we know drew Brees is isn't head. It's going to be a completion thought an it's all Michael Thomas. I just I wonder I wonder those gods. I really do like I you have heard me talk before about how in real time. The evolution of sports. Usually isn't something that you had to see happen. We have seen it in football or basketball with the three point shot in a way. That's just happened in our lifetime. The precision of these quarterbacks is an astounding things to God's where they are simply they're the number of times. The drew Brees is dropping back and just obviously throwing it to the space that he's thrown into seven thousand times in practice. That weight, right? And it doesn't matter. What all he's doing is noticing with the coverage is and as soon as he drops back based on what somebody's hips are doing. He's like, oh, I got this guy. He turned his ear to me a fraction of a centimeter. Look at what I'm gonna do now to him. Right. But I'm still confused because you love this show with this. Why are we going to your house later to watch footage of Dan? Fouts. I watch the chargers all day air coryell, and John Jefferson and all those guys that guy. Do you not wonder how different it looks? I think we would laugh if we saw what the chiefs are doing right now compared to what the chargers were doing back there. And I'm guessing the Dan Fouts was throwing flutter balls at I'm guessing that they were very inaccurate and Kellen Winslow Mike was lamenting, Mike. What was that? You. What what did you say? This sentence was uttered in it's what I want to end. This segment you were pining long inexplicably. Earlier today for when tight ends looked a certain way, not the way they do now where their mutant extraterrestrials, but you were law who will you longing for God. Gronkowski's and Travis Kelsey is known as when I was growing up tight ends. Look like Jim Klein saucer donlevatar quickey is it's slithering around get. You are good your your master liars. Stugatz. Are you are you are genius liar? You are like the I'm sign of liar. Leasees libertas show with his two guys on ESPN. Radio the big lead road. Something about the number of Cowboys in the booth Stu guts because there are a lot all over the league for a team. That's won two playoff games and twenty three years in Stephen Ames, shouted at Michael Irvin. Earlier in the show you gotta win three of those to win a Super Bowl at the very least in one season and you've had to in twenty three seasons. Right moose Johnson. You got Tony Romo? Got Troy Aikman. You got Jason Witten and the idea. That Jerry Jones wanted this way. He wants Cowboys on all the telecast. He is the most powerful man in the sport. I had never noticed that before. That's not something that I noticed before that the Cowboys have that kind of prime positioning in broadcasting, and it's it's just all their guys. It's Michael Irvin on the NFL network and the four white guys on network television. You know, it's it's wet and Jimmy Johnson. Right. I've noticed it. I just never given it much thought. I have noticed it though. I mean, Jerry's probably not so happy about Johnson being on one of the channels. But he's flooded the zone by having all the other channels have former a former Cowboys. Giving you the analysis. Right. There's is there another team that has to is there. Is there another team and not just football? Is there another team across you know, Klay? Thompson dad does some broadcasting. It's a great point there. No dolphins calling games. Right. I mean, there's no just dolphin games. I understand national on the national platforms. I'm trying to think of other teams who have multiple broadcasts. It's a jarring number of Cowboys announcers to have in the booth telling you how to enjoy your football. When Michael Thomas goes running to the end zone and pulls a cellphone out. Those were Troy Aikman's old Cowboys sensibilities coming forward, I just don't know how he can have those old cowboy sensibilities when he played on that team. And I don't know if he was in that courtroom that Michael Irvin walked through in fedora and an a mink. Those teams were very bad behaving teams. I don't know. Why? Troy, Aikman goes crazy. Whenever Michael Thomas. Does something like pose a cellphone out of the goal post. I guess the giants have a few people are texting in in Phil Simms. Tiki barber Michael Strahan. Enough. On day barber and booger McFarland. So the bucks are on this to their climbing. Club clubhouse. But is that can that be thing because the theory that the big lead is espousing is that if you put? The former Cowboys in the booth and you will have a better chance of getting in play as a network for the Super Bowl. And that seems from where I'm standing to be a stretch that Jerry Jones would give her help lobby to make sure that ESPN gets a Super Bowl right because Jason Witten is in the booth that seems like like trying to hire Colli Leonard's friend in order to keep him in Toronto as your coach tabloids also have Dion Darren Woodson what he. Cowboys lead by mile, but they are America's team a strange twist the Bengals have to boomer and Collins worth about that. Why are they still America's team? The ratings prove this. Yeah. I mean, okay. Because last night's game was the highest rated you know, week nine game. And I don't know how long and the highest rated television show since Mark you, but the ratings bear out that the the Dallas Cowboys are silly big time national drawl terms of consistent ratings. Huge patriots have Bruschi moss. Just a ESPN hiring a couple of guys doesn't count because we have to we have two litter our library with former athletes, we don't count. Our lav skis wandering around here. We have to we have two litter the lot him Woody about that patriot. Are you just going to keep blurting broadcast a question, man? I'm just trying to do some research for you. But these are not the broadcasters on like, these are the lead broadcasters on the national games. The big game tonight has a cowboy the big game that we were watching yesterday has a cowboy on it. Knicks Jeff Van Gundy, Mark Jackson. Cowboy and a buck. And Tibo patriot. Mike can that be right? That can't be right with the big lead is can is hypothesizing the idea that somebody would hire. How is that possible? Why are you asking me because I don't believe it because I don't understand what it is. There seems to be a lot of Cowboys in play by play boots. But they're all amazing incredible talents. That's not true. They're all awesome. They are. Everyone agrees with it. That was better than Romo. Okay. Very good. Die like Troy Aikman's I- perspective. I really appreciate it. I I never knew that people would react that kind of way to Michael Thomas who else was reacting that way, Joe buck. But who else who else are the only two in America were they were they the only two out there yelling and screaming reservedly? The only America was initially. Didn't know it was an Omaswa Joe horn, Mike. I'm I've got to tell you like once upon a time, the broadcasters could absolutely influence the reaction. Are you telling me that Aikman? And Joe buck were complaining about Michael Thomas, and the people watching were not that this was not a social media frenzy that people weren't outraged by unsportsmanlike behaviour the selfish act of costing your team. Oh, we're the minority. I like that nonsense. I thought it was so cool that he was doing something from like my teenage years what a cool throwback and. I couldn't believe that was an Omar from fifteen years ago if I didn't realize that Joe horn was fifteen years ago. It's the only thing I know about Joe horn, Mike as soon as he did I said Joe horn, that's all I know about it. I mean that is all there is shot for shot recreation. It was amazing. It really was gave them put it on the poll is that all you know, about your horn. I know I news fast. But I got very little information for you outside of that horny. I don't believe. That's as big, man. I don't think that that's what's was referencing. I think that was just an inner thought that popped out. 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How much does that cost that Cam Newton war at the press conference after yesterday's game more than my car that had it's it's I don't know any men who wear have that large. I believe Cam Newton to own the largest hat owned by a man. It's I've never seen a hat that large. It's outside of cowboy hats. Right. He wears it. Well, too. I mean, he wears everything. Well, look at him. He's a statute a one as a beautiful statue. He really is. Many of you are writing in outrage that I have not commented on Brady dusting your boy Rogers, seventeen points is not enough to win at Foxboro. But I didn't feel like that game was decided by the quarterbacks. Did you running back at a big fumble? Adam Jones is it. It's not Adam Jones Jones had a big fumble in the seventeen seventeen game in Packers are driving to take the lead. And so yes, I never put on an hour Rogers. I always put it on someone else. It's jones. But I'm just saying the quarterback Aaron didn't really. The quarterbacks didn't really decide that game. That's not Brady playing. Well, is it that's everybody. Patterson clearly decided that gain for della as you like to call him some sort of Nutella flavor. Yes. I mean, all the sudden had nowhere ease. They're running back and James White's like the best wide receiver in the history of football that that guy is invaluable. And I just don't understand. Why are the patriots the only team in the league that knows how to use their running back like a wide receiver? I guess the saints with Kamara, and I guess the Steelers do it with the lady unveil and obviously the Rams do it with girly. But is it because they're running backs are so good like how is it? The James white. It's if it's not James it'll be somebody else for them. We'll it not catching twelve passes out of the backfield. It seems like they've always had that guy that guy who could do that catch twelve catches out of the backfield. I'm also confused as to why they were the only team to offer fifth round pick for Josh Gordon. I mean, it's infuriating, Dan. It really is. I mean, we know Josh Gordon is good. That's Josh Gordon injured. Judge Gordon wasn't quite right. I didn't even think he was going to play in the game. We'll Josh Gordon injured was five catches one hundred thirty yards and a touchdown. I mean, fifth round pick. Yeah. They beat you last night with Patterson, Josh, Gordon and James white. That's right. No ataman. No grunk that I'm gonna play. I only played six catches. Didn't you throw for a touchdown? Let me that's right. He had the thirty seven yard pass for touch. It wasn't a touchdown. Yeah. Why got tackled to the one and then ballot? Check just kept giving white the ball. So we can get the touch that was I was that is fantasy talking right there. Yeah. I have. I know I know that right? There is an analysis that comes from I suffer because I was yard from getting point. Skip Bayless had performance are going on. Yeah. I wish Tom Brady at someone is good as avant atoms. Devante skip Bayless loves Davante Adams. He just says. How great devante Adams is. Because it allows him to make the arguments that crush Aaron Rodgers he was making pro he had look at it as Julian Edelman, who's lost his burst. He doesn't have gronkowski. He he just never mentioned that he has Josh Gordon for whatever reason I never got around to skip Bayless mention he's got Josh Gordon out there. I mean Patterson is averaging more yards per carry than Todd Gurley. Is he really that? Can't be right. It's is it. This. At lebatardshow on Instagram and Twitter or point eight yards per carry for Todd Gurley. I think over six yards per carry last night for Patterson it's early in Patterson's running back career. But right now, he he has the higher yards per carry. A lot of people are guilty of doing this myself included giving so much credit to Bill Belichick because he was smart enough to put Cordell Patterson in the backfield because he's always historically been a guy who had trouble running routes. But he's so good with the ball in his hand. So this is the quickest way to get the ball in his hands. Why didn't anybody think to put them in the backfield before Jack del Rio is making sure to go on Twitter and saying I did we did check. Check the tape to his credit. He did. Don't miss him over there in Oakland. I think they that's Belgium on telly showing Rogers like, hey, you can win with a wide receiver running back. At lebatardshow, Instagram and Twitter. We've got a lot of polls today. Let's run through them. Stu gods will Frank gore? Have twenty carries for fifty yards in his eighties. Ninety three percent of the audience said. Yes. Do you get irrationally angry when someone puts the U upside down sixty nine percent of the audience said, no nice. It's the worst. If you had twenty four hours could you find a flip phone? Sixty five percent of the audience said, yes, if Travis Kelsey has spotted the ball is he open. It's a great question, man. Ninety three percent of the audience said yes money is he's noticed where the ball is. That's going to be a catch of some sort. Was Rams versus saints crack cocaine ninety one percent of the audience said, yes. If you were a Madden ratings performance adjuster, would you wear that jacket? Sixty percent of the audience said yes did Ed ordure on when the pre game. Ninety percent of the audience said, yes, it looks so bad in retrospect, I didn't see at Orion's entrance into the stadium. Until after I'd seen the game between Alabama LSU viewed from that perspective. It's really ridiculous where you know, counting as he's all sorts of red. He's clearly intravenously had twenty energy drinks. He dropped his pants and moon. Somebody. He didn't do that. But he would have he was thinking about it does that or Jurong have two police bodyguards to protect everyone from him. Ninety three percent of the audience said, yes is the best chance for the rest of the AFC ease natural causes. I love that. That's the best defense against Tom Brady. What's the record on polls here? Mike ninety eight on that. So close ninety seven percent of the audience said, yes, which Sam Bradford look makes you trust them less in uniform out of uniform sixty nine percent of the audience at in uniform. Who is favored in a game between Alabama and the three best remaining teams put together including Alabama second team. Seventy eight percent of the audience at Alabama. What am I doing Mike? Well, this is what Mike was saying. During the break he was arguing on behalf of this. He was arguing. So what happens if we take the three other teams that aren't Alabama to play Alabama? And we make the quarterback Nathan Peterman. Tied by twenty one guy. Got it pick 'em Peckham. Where's the game going to be held? If it's a neutral side. Alabama minus one and a half the hook. You gotta buy that down. Would Dan Mullen BA thumb wrestling champion. Seventy five percent of the audience said, yes, they keep score someone wins and someone lose. I don't care what we're doing. Thumb wrestle me. Right now my kick in. You wanna come on up? I got you. Right. You go run stadiums. I'll kick your your keep scoring someone's going to win and someone's gonna lose I want to beat. If we don't have that attitude in the locker room, you got a problem. What do you what do you do it? Awesome zoo. Is that all you know about Joe horn? Eighty one percent of the audience said, yes. Does Michael Thomas make you horny? Can we split the asset question of a former head football coach? A ridiculous question. 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Steelers/Panthers

The Stephen A. Smith Show

16:52 min | 2 years ago

Steelers/Panthers

"I think smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel. So I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try get the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor. Switch to Joel check OJ dot com slash sports. If you don't smoke Vate don't start warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine is an addictive chemical. Tom straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones. Best networks, no contracts. Got a jam packed show. Coming today. Coming your way today. I'll get into the Lakers. In a second. I'll get in the last night situation against the Minnesota Timberwolves in a second. I'll get into the Lakers win. I'll get into the Minnesota Timberwolves losing I'll get into Jimmy Bulloch. I'll get into Rajon Rondo doing something in my opinion. He should not have done. We'll do all of that stuff. We'll get into all of that as the show progresses today. Talking about Dez Bryant in Orleans talking about some of the things going on. I'd like to congratulate the New York Knicks, by the way, they wanna game last night. They beat the Atlanta Hawks. Thank the good Lord. Now. I'm just saying that this is going to be a year that they suffer. This is not a year of expectation. We get all of that. But the bottom line is you don't wanna look God awful in the process. I wanna see Kevin Knox come back. I want to see him do his thing. I want to see Kristaps Porzingis. Ultimately, come back and showed it he's healthy and ready to go. Because I think if Chris that's what zingers shows up and shows out combined with Kevin Knox giving you anything. I think that's gonna position you to get one of these marquee free agents, and it has a lot to do with the lake. Because and I'll explain why in the next few minutes, but the first order of business on this particular Thursday is to get into Thursday night football. The Carolina Panthers scheduled to go up against the Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Levy on bell will not be back tonight. He's got until Tuesday to get back if he wants to be eligible for free agency and twenty nine thousand nine although there are numerous what's that saying there could be some hold there's some wiggle room. Or whatever the case may be that even if he were not to return, he could still potentially be a free agent in twenty nine thousand nine that would be an argument between the league and the players association. I'm saying why take that chance he left south beach to come back to Pittsburgh for reason because he has every intention of being available to the Pittsburgh Steelers after this week ten of the NFL season playing it simple. Having said all of that. Let me say this. I'm very very interested in this game tonight with the Steelers and the Panthers because I want to see what both teams are made of in a case of the Pittsburgh Steelers. You've been winning as of late I'll give you process visas. Natty Baltimore you'd want some interesting gains. I gotta give mad love and credit for that. If you're the Carolina Panthers you come out of nowhere north turned. The offense coordinator deserves a boatload of credit for what we've witnessed we're looking at Cam Newton have a pretty stellar season. He's completing a better percentage of his passes than ever before in his career. We got funches there. We got Greg Olsen there. Those are old reliable targets that Cam Newton has leaned on for the last several years, but this kid Christian McCaffrey out of Stanford who's in the second year. So he might be that difference maker. Because what you're able to do with him out of the backfield is similar to what we see drew Brees. Do what Alvin Kamara similar to what we see Patrick Mahomes do with Kareem hot? Similar to what we see Tom Brady do James white. Used to be similar to what we saw Big Ben Rothlisberger. Dual Levy on bell. Christian mccaffrey. Smaller one with some is not as durable. But nevertheless, ineffective weapon for the Carolina Panthers to such a degree that it makes you sit up there and say, you know, what we might have slept on the Carolina Panthers. We might not have given them the love and respect that they deserve. Because right now they've been flat out ball and ball in the way that they have this year. What a defense that's only ranked twelfth with an offense that's ranked eleventh number two Russian attack and all of football, but twenty-second passing attack. They've won five or six games. Cincinnati. The giants they eagles the ravens and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now, that's not exactly an A-List comp a list of calm of competitors. But you play the guys that are on your schedule. Cam Newton is completing sixty seven percent of his passes laser gentleman. Cam Newton never completed more than sixty percent of his passes. Then this career. He's at sixty seven percent. You gotta give. No, I've turned some love for that. You just gotta do it. There's no way around it a guy like Christian McCaffrey who's twenty two years of age in his second year out of Stafford. This brother right now is averaging four point six yards. A carry. Four point six yards. A carry. And if you look at it is deceptive. Yes, he rushed twenty eight times one hundred and eighty four yards against the Bengals. But other games. Seventy nine yards last seat last week against Tampa. Forty five yards rushing the week before against Baltimore. Fifty eight yards rushing against the New York Giants, blah, blah, blah. But then you see other stuff fourteen receptions for hundred two yards receiving against Atlanta. That was a loss though. Five receptors for thirty five yards against the giants. Seven receptions for forty six yards against the Redskins. Six receptions for fifty one yards against Philadelphia. Eagles five receptions for seventy eight yards last week against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That's all purpose stuff. That's a guy that's helping you move chains chunk up Tom possession, and where people. And between him and Cam running a football because camps the team's second leading rusher. You got the number two Russian attack and all the football. What are you going to do against that of you the Pittsburgh Steelers? That's a huge question. Mark. Now, if you're Pittsburgh you've improved your secondary. No doubt. They've come to play the last few weeks, and they deserve a lot of credit for that. So we gotta get to steal his credit for that. And we got to recognize that for what it is. But we also got to pay attention to the fact. That their offense is obviously still high-powered even without Levy on bell. You got the ninth ranked passing attack. Even though you got the twenty second rushing attack your twenty third in rushing attempts. So you're not doing that bad. You've got the fourth rank passing attack still is a number six against the rush. So it ain't easy to run the football on Big Ben Rothlisberger. Having a relatively decent years already passed over twenty five hundred yards. He's on pace. For five thousand yard season pass five thousand yards thirty two touchdowns. Fourteen interceptions woulda QBR seventy one. That's what Big Ben Rothlisberger is on pace for James Connor the running back replacing levian bell is averaging four point seven yards. A carry. That's what he's doing and do Smith Schuster. Not Antonio Brown is the leading receiver receive of Pittsburgh Steelers. Now Tonio Brown has been talking to thirteen more times than juju Smith Schuster. But you just masseuse Stor has caught two more receptions. For about eighty more, y'all. So you got to all purpose wideouts. I love this tight advanced McDonald. He just runs over people. He just runs over people. You sort out Monday night football game against Tampa. What he did to that one defendant just Muslim. I mean that guy's gonna be in a highlight reel all season long be laughed at but the combination of him and Jesse James at the tight end spot puts the Steelers in positions where they could have two tight ends on a field at the same time. They can take a runner out. And basically put the two tight ends in which you just went through San Antonio brat. I didn't even bring up James is James Washington. So paying attention all of this right now. And I like what I'm stealing. I'm seeing from the Pittsburgh Steelers. But a game like tonight, particularly census at home. It's gonna show me a lot. Now, the other thing that you have to keep in mind when it comes to these Steelers, and there's no way to avoid it. Absolutely, positively no way to avoid it. Levian bell. Now, I'm not gonna even read is tweet. Because he put some tweet out yesterday that was up and down, and you know, sort of chastising folks passing judgment against him in all of this other stuff. Look, let me be very clear. I don't blame on bell one bit holding out. It's important that I say that. I don't blame them one bit for holding out. Well, what this man brings to the table last season. Anyway, I know my man caught in Tampa calls up all the time last four seasons. He wasn't available to a topsy was suspended or whatever couple of times. He was I don't want to hear all of that last year three hundred and twenty one carries eighty five receptors that's four hundred and six times the ball with his hands. We didn't get into how much psalms he was targeted. We didn't get into that. We got into this, brother. And what he brings to the table when levian bell is on the field and healthy. The Steelers were something to behold. Three hundred twenty one carries twelve hundred and ninety one yards last season. He caught eighty five passes. He was targeted one hundred six times. That means the Steelers were intending to give him the football four hundred and twenty seven times. And he ended up getting it four hundred and six times he was a second leading receiver on a Pittsburgh Steelers. What is love EON bell saying I deserve my money, and I don't deserve to be treated like just a running back. I pass catch out of the backfield. I'm a primary target for us the injustice the doing the running backs eight fair. Y'all give us the ball all day every day, you run us into the ground. And then you throw us out like yesterday's trash the second birth certificate touches thirty. So I'm not going for that. I spoke to Levy on bell months ago. I would know this. He specifically said it ain't just about me, Steven A. It's about all running backs. That's what he said. And he meant it and he's not playing and it's not just about dollars. It's about principle with him. I understand. And I agree with him. Especially when I watch Adrian Peterson perform and he's thirty five years. Oh, why are we writing off at age thirty like they do not play this because there are running back. It. Ain't right. I got it. The problem is. Levian bell has mishandled this entire situation. I am a person that was totally against those offensive lineman for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ramon forced to and others. I thought they flat out, but trade him. I'm not saying because of how they feel I'm saying because of their willingness to express what they expressed publicly. I thought that was a travesty and that they should be ashamed of themselves to doing what they did. Without question. And I stand by that. And it's important that everybody understands that. Here's the flipside. That didn't excuse levian bell. For sending Instagram photos or footage is or whatever it was a him jet skiing and south beach while Steelers struggling. At he was happy about it. That didn't excuse Levy on bell for sending out cryptic tweets periodically remind everybody that he was still around. He was still available knowing good and Dan. Well. That was going to rub some of his teammates to wrong way who warrant the ones the providence of his money. And I must say this loud and clear. When my Tomlin of all people says in an interview, we want volunteer's, not hostages. It doesn't get more indicting than that. And the is a possibility is great as levian bell is and as much as we imagine that he will get his money because his talent warrants getting his money. We must concede. That it is entirely possible, and it is entirely plausible. That there is a team out there that says or bunch of teams out there that says look at the Pittsburgh Steelers look at what they're doing without him. Why do we have to worry about paying him that amount of money? Especially. If the fact that he's alienated his team, and he comes across the selfish is the comment thinking that circulating and locker rooms that's far beyond. Pittsburgh's corridors. I'm not saying it would be right. I'm not saying it would be fair. But laser gentlemen, let me teach us something. Because here's what you have to admit. And I'm sorry to sound like this to America. I really am sorry. But I just have to say this. In the media industry. I'm pretty big. I know that doesn't sound like the most humble thing to say on stand. But it's true. I'm pretty big. You know, why? I'm big time. Is it because of my talent my questions tendencies, my -bility, articulate my verbiage. So well, my presentation being the sublime it is it is. No, that's not it. It has something to do with it. But that's not really do. You know, the real reason why ladies and gentlemen. Because I'm trustworthy. You know that every day that I show up on airwaves. I'm gonna bring it. And not only do you know that about me. But even off the air, although occasionally, I could be a pain in the you know, what I know. I know it's hard as that might be to believe Stephen a Smith could actually be a pain in the you know, what I know it's hard. I know I know it's hard to believe. But it's true. I can't be a pain. But I never put myself before the team. Ever. The team is always first. I've been that way to my entire career. From a New York daily new to the Philadelphia Inquirer to CNN sl to foxsports to ESPN anyplace else that I might end up some day or I might retire. He I don't know. I don't win unless the team wins. If the teammate winning. I ain't winning. Levy on bell. That's not the attitude. He carried. And potentially that might cost them, by the way that was straight talk wireless, nationwide coverage and America's largest most dependable four G L T networks.

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Who is Josh Allen?

Highly Questionable

21:46 min | 10 months ago

Who is Josh Allen?

"Wow It's kind of Nice working from home. Now I don't have than sweating over me over the thank show. All right look. This is the pandemic version of this television show. It has been wrong. Dr Omani looks good. But look at US I want you to look at the three of US amid this virus put on the screen again, and again what we use to look like when we did this show together vibrant and filled with life and look at us right now let's start highly questionable old school style but money you look good but we're a mess and doing the show this way with my father's lame joke it's it's it's a bad way to do it. But it doesn't smell like cigars at my table. We take back all of those apologies that we never actually gave to Josh Allen. Bomani, the sports media gas bags, like us can be pretty strident and really enjoy being right and never being wrong. But I am willing to concede already even after a loss where Ryan Tanna hell looked like a better version of Josh. Allen without the mistakes and the recklessness even after loss where they got swamped last night against a very good. Tennessee team I'm willing to say that this guy is already better than I ever thought he would be more accurate less reckless and he's Got Great. Skill guys I was impressed in a loss. I know the numbers that he had to start the season and he will make mistakes like he didn't last night's game that will end up costing you but I'm willing to watch. This guy grow is an exciting talent because he's actually a hell of a lot more. They coached a little bit of the dumb out of him and it seems their scheming her way to coaching a little of the inaccurate out of him as well. All right now, here's the question though, did they the dumb out of them? Are they coaching exceptionally well around the dumb because even as he's had this good run and people are pointing to the fact that he hasn't thrown interceptions his damn sure tried and even in this game where he also threw interception, you had a couple other ones where he gave an attempt. Now, there was one drive in the first quarter where he looked excellent covered off their first intercessory threw the ball behind the do denounced off his shoulder pets. He is talented and I am with you on the fact that he is better than I thought that he would be but that has a lot to do with the fact that I just didn't think he'd. Be Good at all because he was starting off so badly. But what you saw in this game titans did a whole lot of playing zone and not a lot of Blitzen, which is basically we're going to sit back and we're GONNA. Have a budget dudes with eyes on you and you could try to run except we're going to see that you plan to run. We're not gonNA blitz you. There's not going to be something open. That's not supposed to be there, and if the first thing ain't there for Allen here, really got much else for you. Even look at that touchdown that he threw that really strong are passing through in the back of the end zone TJ Yeltsin is see how open he was for so long before. Josh Allen realized that he was there. So yeah, he is exceeded the expectations that had the expectations that you had but the limitations of him, what if I said the ceiling on this team is their quarterback is exciting as you might be if they don't win chances are it's going to be because he didn't play well, they gave up a bunch of points but. He also didn't play well, but this is what I saw last night Bomani and this is one of the things that impresses me when it comes to all the different ways that we do advanced metrics on trying to measure these quarterbacks and we get it wrong six different time some of us on Kirk cousins and bill. Polian is six time executive year while the. Value Most Valuable Player in the League is a guy he didn't think could be a quarterback when I'm watching this guy and I fear him on third and long when early in that game he is somebody who can beat you a lot of different ways on third long. That's how I used to measure Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes that when you're. On defense do you fear them on third and long and I believe he's climbing into that category already because of the ways because he's hard to tackle because three times last night they hit a corner coming on touch and he moved his hips to get around him like some stuff that's learned but it's also something that's organically athletic he can evolve with that position. Also helps their office of lying when they blocked for the past very very well like he's not GonNa do there's going to get the ball out on the third step on the fifth step on the seven step he's not going to be there dude but they do give them all day long to throw the ball once that happens because he could run and because his. Arm is so strong. You'RE GONNA wind up being in trouble like there are things there but I still believe that for things to go right for Josh. Allen. Everything else around him has to go right because it's all the things we've seen. We haven't seen as a lot of stuff where he is overcoming the mistakes of others. Typically, he is overcoming the mistakes of himself. Because gas bags can become entrenched because gas bags don't like to be seen as wrong on television. We bring our fearless leader here. Let's listen from Bobby here. He's got some things to say about Josh Allen I'm sure. I like. Josh Allen, Joshi's fairy than we judge you on a weekly basis you an impressive young quarterback, east not fair that Bomani wants you to fail with that saying. That you failed is to. What else do? You have a throne with that. Throw my song through table. He's very handy because. Even. If that table was made of steel, he'll go through. Stable. Break Your Denise. Seriously can you guys put back on the screen the photo, the disturbing photo of my father and I in Polka dotted thongs. That's where we're going with the humor in twenty twenty. That's what we're doing. But one of the smartest people in the history of sports television or any kind of television we're wasting his time with this stuff with my father. Hold on you GonNa put that picture up. That I'm here for my intellect now put that picture back up by if you're right there. Yeah that's right. All right. All right. Come on is a visual medium come on. It's unpleasant disturbing. Picture me hanging by talking about you. Oh. WHO's more to blame for his jets flameout Levian Bell or Adam Gates All Right now bill is in this place where he did something that sports fans can never forgive, which is have the audacity to say now, that's not enough money for me. I just won't play this year right then he comes back he gets a deal from the jets and everybody laughs at him because he didn't get as much money as he wanted the real reason to laugh of course is that he was going to play for the jets. He gets there Adam gazed into as the general manager I wish you hadn't signed. Him and they fired the general manager. I'm just GonNa ask you this question when you try to figure out WHO's fault is is Levy Bells Adam Gates what hasn't been Adam gays his faults since he got there like is reasonably they love eon bell doesn't have anything left I have no idea because he's been playing for Adam Gates. A Dude didn't want there in the first place and even if he did want him, I got no reasonably would have any idea of how to use them to me and I understand that this. May. Be a bit binary but if the question is who's to blame at one choices, Adam gays, I don't need to know what the other option is. The answer is gaze a bit binary. You think it's a bit by Nerd. That's funny. All right. Let's check in with the introductory press conference of Adam as this was him being introduced to the jets media as the savior from the Miami Dolphins, and he was doing that googly eyed thing. Now, you arrive in a point where they are oh and five where they've traded hall of fame. Safety, where their quarterback has regressed and that lady on bell bemoaning, he got there as the best running back in the league. He has sort of the tipping point where did running backs become disposable when the steelers could get rid of on bell he sat out for Year we laugh at be on bell but he didn't go from the best running back in the league to a guy who's longest carry bow in seventeen games for the jets paying twenty seven million dollars was nineteen yards that can't be his fault that's not his fault. And I gotta be honest you mentioned that twenty seven million dollars I feel like that's not enough to have to put up with the jets like is not a single player on the jets who was not underpaid for having to live their lives like that playing for the New York jets, I'm risking my life. Adam. Gazes the one in charge. Does any part of you feel bad for Jose Altuve Oh. This one's interesting ethical dilemma Bomani because these are the cheating cheaters everybody hates them. But what's more humanizing that? What's happened to? Jose Altuve, as the tiny little guy, he's best in baseball. Then we say he's cheating and it appears to everyone that he was cheating and then he comes back and he's totally short-circuited this season where can't hit at all like he's totally confused because baseball is cruel and now he's got the Yips at second base. Last night another error that ends up hurting they're getting ground balls. They're getting ground balls into the shift and and yeah, like he's he's got to do better than that. But this reminds me of Rick and Keel this reminds me of like chuck. KNOB block I it's just he keeps throwing things or leave from easy plays and I yeah. I I feel for somebody when they're in the middle of something like that no matter how how paid they are. Man, as much as people feel like the Astros didn't suffer any level of punishment wholesale two stat line seems to indicate he suffered some now we don't think he cheated for the entirety of his career. This is by far the worst he has ever hit his slugging percentage. This year was lower than his batting average was in that season to twenty seventeen has paid a price and now I can't imagine what it's like being. So trapped in your head that has a second basement, you cannot throw the ball shortstop do I feel bad for? Never Really Kinda sorta how things work out sometimes under circumstance like this but it is very interesting how he went from the guy that everybody could light because he feels good when they see a short man you know excel in our society was so much stacked up against then they find out the short man was a cheater and they get out here treat the short man like they're really want to treat short like they don't like now wait a minute so you thought I was too gentle and loving with the humanizing of my tiny Hispanic. No no I think it's cool. There is a human element tool but if I was there, it would feel terrible I. Myself don't necessarily feel bad for but I feel like just not feeling bad for him. Is like ten steps above all the other people who are enjoying this to know it and speaking of course, people who are enjoying this to no end. We've got the loudest of all of sports televisions, Hispanic gas bags, areas again, ladies, and Gentlemen Poppy in the pandemic Houston we have thrown. Out. Coming up a little bit. Short, you know he's throws. Planes on Bachelor, the Astros? Baffert the Astros no way say the only thing that brought more chantilly state affects us it sticks US football bobby aid sliders pappy has spoken cheaters. My father said she was there she turns. Yeah I feel bad for two because if he was a basketball player, poppy would never do that vain enough Latino basketball players into be out here. Standing on principle is baseball player. He can just jump off to another one. He still admires JJ BEREA JJ berea short person one of his favorites for doing that to Lebron ten years ago. Coming up next on myself. TV. Show. I don't know how many protocols this is going to violate but I'm told that at half of a low level football game, there was a halftime show that had wrestling in it. This seems unsafe fear. Oh. Yeah this is Oh don't do that. IS HE GONNA? Hurt himself. This is right Thompson. My new podcast bloodlines the first and the ESPN investigates podcast series is available. Now, what line starts with the tragic story of dead horses at Santa Anita and then examines the state of thoroughbred horse racing while taking you own hopefully, an unforgettable journey about the past present and future of this. Once hallowed sport listen now to all three episodes of bloodlines on Apple podcast spotify for wherever you listen to podcasts. Do Question of Josh Norman should be ashamed of this Bomani I know running back sir, disposable but some of my favorites throughout time our guys who are just more of a man than the people that they were facing Jim Brown earl, Campbell? The list is very long of is in the Modern Age who can embarrass your masculinity on television. The way that this Guy Derrick Henry does to Josh Norman got hormones coming up he's not small off me. It's a three or four yard game Derrick Henry House doing this and is very good at it. I mean. Josh Berman is what I mean. It's not small Omani. He's not. So let's see a montage of Derrick Henry. To a bunch of people. Yeah this goes back away. Off Me. Andy Suitcase too fast. It's so ridiculous. Speed Yeah. Earl. That's a hall of Famer. Earl Thomas get ought to hear this in the front of you get off the back of off. Miss Derrick Henry screen passes digital. There aren't many people in the history of the sport who've been able to do that. Right? There is like jazz should be ashamed of that because there is no circumstance under where somebody just throw you across the room like that and it shameful for Dan. I will say this and this is like apropos of nothing but seeing Kerry with stiff arm is a remind me of the Ila stiff arm I have ever seen in my life. You Remember Greg Jones at Florida State Oh my God there's one. Five. That guy's arm. That's Michael Pittman territory on just biceps. Yes. In here he is decapitating do their wound up winning super, Bowl rings and it reminds me of the day. I realized that I didn't need to be playing football. I was playing seventh grade and I was on the B. Team because of course, I would be we were practice and they gave the ball to fullback and I thought I was going to be somebody and get there get low make the tackle obviously somebody didn't do the job for me to be tackled tackle. Person At do went down put this right here right under my face masks. I was parallel to the ground before I while just hit to grab and that was shameful shameful for me to get stiff all it has to be saying before pro to actually get stiff was that was that the last day of football for you or how soon thereafter no pole and it was not the last day of football but it was definitely the last day I viewed it in any sort of ASPIRATIONAL SORTA way right? I just wanted no quitter. G. Question High School Football Halftime show is the best part of the game. All right. So we're in a pandemic I don't know how many protocols this is going to violate but I'm told that it half time of a low level football game there was a halftime show that had wrestling in it. Seems unsafe. Here. Don't lie, US? Yeah this is oh. Don't do that is he gonNa hurt himself as he can are all my God. I mean that's I can't say that's not entertaining winding. It's not something that I would do but I can't say I can't say it seems very unsafe is what how much did that cost? That's all I want to know what was the budget are these people like volunteers? Can you run that one more time? Because is a little grainy in the footage I got here but I feel like I got another question which is where referee come from. That's a great question I. Feel like this is the halftime entertainment at the High School Football Game I, would think that reverie will even be at stadium. Do we need to start a gofundme me? So they can get some instruments down there because I feel like if you gotta go to wrassling as the halftime show, you invest properly in the arts. Blow it in horse there have to be a great deal of liability issues there. Do they're not like I? I would not a how does that happen without a great deal of insurance? You got a Guy Straight from the nineties rock. Heavy metal band hair and Bomani is so right about this like the referee how much do you have to pay that guy to be there? Maybe he's the one who drove the truck you know what I mean like I'll visit man used to be the announcer maybe he owns the whole promotion used to be people too young to remember that Vince McMahon used to be a sideline reporter and then he parlayed it into running the whole thing. I don't think that's what I don't think that's the way that story. Your my fire. You wonder sire believe when I say I wanted that way. But we're two worlds apart. Can reach to your heart. When you say. That I wanted that way. Tell me why and nothing but a headache. Tell me why and nothing but a mistake tell me who I I know one here. You say I want it that way. Tonight at six o five pm eastern dodgers and braves. Day and I got this, I'll take his. Sweet narcotic is back in the air the braves up to get Ozzy Albee's mashed baseball's this from a couple nights ago watch this he mashes this went into the bullpen, right? He's not one of their best. Yes. Again. Right. This is Mark Melanson get ready to go do his job. Realizes what's going on? Calls for Gatty and then we got this from last night. Ozzy. Eighty, nine they go get it done side. Net. And another case and staunton autumn Brian McCain would never go for that stunting and his bullpen because they're they're clubbing everybody Bomani. You're an Atlanta guy you don't show much emotion around your sports. You call very few things allegiance is but you love those Otis Nixon braves you love those nineties braves are you back now that Brian McCann has gone? There up to. All right yes. Up here. All right. He's there. We got him interested in some baseball if they can knock out the dodgers. In a gym somewhere Jimmy Butler of course always working this is good for the Jimmy Mythology he came off winning the bubble just about bigger than anyone except Lebron. James. Montier, you did actual reporting on this. You did some journalism Jimmy Butler was broken after game five Lebron James has spent fifteen years having the game that Jimmy Butler that broke him game five and he was in no shape to play games six no, no no, he was a guest. The way I was told was he felt like he was dead that's how much it took and yeah, it's what Lebron is done like fifteen times in the last six years. So let's check in here with Jiming. This is already back to work on his instagram. I'm all about work. I'm all about work say way to gym to drink water I. Guess He's just showing us that he's back in the gym again. Omani this is a true story. My mother turned down Jimmy Butler, when he came into town, he was she was going to be his realtor and she turned it down because she's too busy. She's been asking me again and again to get Jimmy Butler to come play Dominos with her that is not probably going to happen. But my father here has some things to say about he'd culture see a very that the culture baby I call in Jim Butler. Gee Why am Butler defined Anchin, his three Lebron James Brodie home celebrating going four and six in the finals he's washed up. The liberal. Factor, Miami living in Nursing Home Jimmy Butler works out when he has the of mum ban doesn't work out that old at me. The Joe. Ballet you got who Jack like these guy. Again with this. Goes back to the JIM whether Brown Moses in be final he cries like a baby on three shifts theme. Is Father. Niamey Heat Twenty, twenty, one NBA Champions Happy has spoken Bomani, I'm feeling. Lazy. I feel like it's lazy. Why is he still so mad? He's mad. He wanted he was he was back to firing SPO- again he said he needed to play. Olympic more my father. Is. Very. uncomfortable. We're out of time here I've told you about Bomani podcast the right time with Bomani. Jones you should hear it also though rates subscribe and review at the Lead Guitar and friends podcast network where we talked to Beaumont and a longer form. It's a real interesting cool Bomani that you get there that has more room to breathe than here check out and friends. Thanks for watching. I'm friends. All right but it was a great Jones clip one would the back WAY FOUR WAY FOR WAY FOR Just your head just punched him in the face. All he did it just punched in the key is look at it. He he sees come into whole way Dow's up purpose, and again that do plate in the lead for years.

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The Ocho: Final thoughts on NY Jets | Week 6 Picks

Blogging the Boys

26:57 min | 1 year ago

The Ocho: Final thoughts on NY Jets | Week 6 Picks

"Any Ninja Warrior fan want to know more about what your favorite Ninjas have on their minds check out the American Ninja Warrior podcasts. It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for a little bit The Washington redskins still winless are about that cough when you say Washington it just gross but anyway so back in it's not going to be a big big jagger but I'm GonNa have a jacket that I haven't busted out probably since the super bowl in Atlanta so it's it's worth you know when I live in San Antonio and typically it's not till the middle of November it gets kind of chilly and this particular Friday there's a little breeze in sitter this is your daily start you know we have it ready for you when you get up to go to work to drive into your morning routine workout whatever the case may be and we catch up on all the latest got a lot of things going we've had a lot of tweets by the way people telling us they liked the podcasts and if you're one of them hey we encourage you describe the block of the boys podcast feed you can get but those things help us out more than you possibly know we appreciate those of you that have done that have reached out and if you have a question you have a common you ever concern you can hit me and fund with Astros and Yankees getting going I know our own connor live see here on the BBC podcasts via the Yankees Fan so maybe we'll have some fun there we when you spend most of your days in ninety five degree weather you tend to get a little bit adjusted to that but so cool weather fall weather is officially here weeks access to all of our shows we have four different shows you okay you get one episode of the Ocho every day to start your day you get an episode here on the show and it's just what we uh-huh presented you in partnership as always this nation's blogging the boys dot com Arjo Charleena me of course from TB and from writer as you're humble host on the road totally free totally free just one time go subscribe any if you get a chance leave a rating review those things help us out and I say this all the time six has begun the New England patriots defeated the New York giants on Thursday night Footba shocker of the year the New England patriots I tend to six wins they're six and our it's Kinda low sixties tonight is going to be high fifties and I know that we have a lot of listeners all over the country and all over the world that are laughing at us Dr as mentioned with Connor Live See Miller and Cole Patterson the guys do such a great job there is a new episode of Star immediately following the Ocho I certainly a little bit scary but I I mean I think I think everything will be alright ultimately I don't think there's any real reason to fret show it is Friday October eleventh two thousand and nineteen and we've finally got some cool weather that's right it took a long time actually it didn't take that long now that I'm being honest lines when it comes to the cowboys we have the seven five myself and two time superbowl champion Tony Casillas there will be a new episode of that later on Today on Friday we have a talk on this the giants two and four the Dallas Cowboys and Philadelphia Eagles both are three into both have an opportunity to get to foreign to we're going to pick those games here above Orlando Cop the New York jets injury report for Thursday obviously the cowboys will visit the jets on Sunday afternoon we had full practice for Robbie Anderson second day in a row was Tony Pollard and as was Antoine was we'll get to Antoine here in a second we had limited practice from Rei Cooper again coming off that groin issue had limited practice. Ah for that but that is cold around here and I do Friday night high school football and out on the field I'm I'm I'm Eh you know few hours later and then you'll get five oh after that and then of course we have bruce in the boys with Michael Sizemore in Tom Rows subscribe to the blog the boys podcast you get access to all of them advantage and no practice for Randall Cobb that was the surprise cowboys receiver Randall. Cobb apparently had a back injury sort of pop up ultimately look I'm not trying to sound arrogant I'm not trying to sound cocky I'm not trying to sound like I'm overlooking the jets but I don't think that any of these players would make a difference I think we all Bleed Bellamy for Nate Hairston for Jordan Jenkins for various Thomas again for Quinton Williams and no practice for the following players Henry Anderson is very early Friday morning if you're listening to this Friday evening obviously Fridays reports come out but it will be the same barring a surprise and there wasn't a surprise this for tyrone Crawford Limited practice for Zack Martin and then no practice for Lyle Collins that's not shocking no practice for tarrant Smith no practice I think this is worth giving a listen to this is Mark Cooper talking about his quad injury and the spin move courtesy of Dallas cowboys dot com now hurting now on that touchdown we'll bring this up to really just kind of throw out the hypothetical or really just throughout the question I suppose obviously Amari Cooper authors NFL bought an entertaining game I was flipping back and forth with that in game five am the Houston Astros moving on that's right it's GonNa be a busy weekend it's GonNa be a lot of the cowboys are typically pretty cautious with their receivers and what their players and their veteran guys they know how to treat them and they know how to handle things so I wouldn't I wouldn't lose to the subject of Injuries Amari Cooper said something really interesting when he met with the media on winds day APP because typically players will only meet with the media it's actually on Thursdays injury report for the cowboys Tavon Austin for the second day in a row was a full participant in practice as was Michael Gallup and as was Sean Lee and as affected his abilities throughout the rest of the game and specifically on the touch any talked about the spin move that he put on which was really cool on email you shoot me an email RJ dot O.. ESPY NATION DOT COM. You can tweet me similar direct message my DM's are open on twitter. I'm at Joe also are the cowboys beat the jets and then we believe the couch going to cover and the narrative around the cowboys seems to be shifting a little bit I wanna get into that but before we totally exit show on the grim Rj Osa you can find me on there been doing what I can to get the grand busting out but but yeah so let's go over Thursday's injury report again this suspension just sort of you know individually kind of coincided with that I think the cowboys hit Great Nirvana on October twenty second last season when they traded for him at one hundred percent so this student's talent I think I really don't believe that were properly absorbing how ever hungry for something but I mean and that's football you know guys are never one hundred percent you know guys are always dealing with something something hurts I mean you know it's a physical I I was hurting and you know you guys probably can't tell the difference in you know the touchdown but when I watched it I was like this in can in practice for CJ Moseley again we talked about that earlier in the week no practice for collect Jay assimilation so that's kind of where things stand with the New York jets and throughout the week and he talked about you know we had talked about you heard Amari actually here on the sound locker episode of the Ocho you heard him say that he I mean that's just the way it goes but it makes you wonder I mean that that play for example that's one of the most incredible players ever seen Amari Cooper make as a cowboy I mean that's been actors for Ryan Griffin they're tied in full practice for Arthur mullet full practice for Kyle Phillips and full practice for Brian Winters Limited participation for Josh James He hasn't even been on the team for a year and that is true that's amazing I mean it really is amazing to consider the impact that he's had and you can watch all these interviews on different teams youtube channels or the websites and things like that so it really is amazing in terms of NFL and sports related content you know your name a very quick break to hear award for sponsors this episode is brought to you by CBS sports HQ so much sports TV nowadays is full of made up trauma autonomies Houston's got deandra Hopkins Will Fuller Amari Michael Gallup are in that conversation and I think that that will be on display this Sunday against the New York jets over one hundred percent and he kind of talked about that threat is home media session I encourage you to go watch it's really awesome by the way we live in such an amazing technological time that you can she saw instinct there yeah so I mean I knew I was school after I thought I'm sorry I thought it's for real sports fans just opened the CBS sports APP and watch anytime from anywhere on your phone or at home on your apple TV Roku or fire TV Info you need to make the right calls for your lineup no fake debates no politics just sports for real sports fans the best news of all it's free a bunch of hot takes from people who don't even believe what they're saying just beating the same topics into the ground but CBS sports H. Q. is here to change all that it's a network that streams live ran a poll on the site the other day and we posted a photo on Instagram just Kinda solicited feedback what you know what what number do oh is in the NFL if you let's let's Kinda give our final thoughts for that game obviously there's a lot to discuss when it comes to the coast of the Dallas cowboys and we will do that in just one moment after we I'm Holly Anderson I'm Ryan Nanny I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown forecast your avengers of college football podcast it says in the script onto riff on exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP all right so cowboys jets big game from the perspective of everybody wants to couch to bounce back everybody wants to see them sort of you know throttle the jets flex their I don't mean free for a week or a month or if you have some special cable package it's totally completely free for everybody you don't even need a log in just sports do you talk about college football. Every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football cooper that Michael Gallup was ascending you know sort of in lockstep with that and so these things have sort of operated in parallel and other colleagues had this really incredible wide receiver duo in fact we had saw kind of come out and show off and we said this all week long I did you know I've talked to different people in a few different appearances and things twenty four seven in their coverage is just focused on the game they bring you the latest news highlights previews and reactions to all the field action fantasy sports experts will give you the Great Amari Cooper is I was thinking about that the other day I mean he's the only player in Dallas cowboys history to have multiple two hundred yard receiving it couldn't be easier download the CBS sports APP and watch CBS SPORTS HQ Today Hey I'm Spencer Hall was dealing with a quad injury that he had sort of something they had evolved throughout the game against the Green Bay Packers Amari talked about that and how that kind of is one email you get every week and it asks you a few questions in terms of how you're feeling about the cowboys and stuff like that and so we use it to measure confidence levels of cowboys fans that means and basically what I mean is this already spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too fashionable pants worn middle school we also we usually I I didn't even want to spend I wanted to just hit him with that one step but the position wasn't right for me to do that so that's why I use the how confident you're feeling in the current state of the team and at this moment following the week five loss of the Green Bay packers cowboys fans are at a twenty two percent reacts and shifts dramatically from one week to another with a winner a loss that's just the way particular fan bases work so you're going to see that called Fan polls where we I've talked about this before we literally measure the pulse a fans it's an email survey if you want to be part of it we have sign-up links and it's just ranked pass catchers pass catching duo specifically across the league where do Amari Michael Gallup poll I think people instinctively think of Minnesota and defined eggs and Adam feeling people think of Atlanta and Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley in the year he had by the way Calvin Ridley and Michael Gallup same draft class you know if you're including move that he just kind of you know I know he wasn't dismissing it in an arrogant way by any means but the he just Kinda was again I mean I had to use that's been move I mean whatever I mean that's guarenteed come back and knock on wood and cross your fingers and whatever but Antoine Woods supposed to come back I do think that will dramatically change what we have a pass catchers it's certainly fit include the city chiefs with tyreek Hill and Travis CALC- you could certainly consider the Cleveland browns with Odell Beckham Junior and Jarvis Landry there are there's a whole I mean it feels like that idea is widely accepted you know and I think that you know and and looking at fan pulse results for example Kansas City chiefs fan good person has sort of clogged up the middle and the cowboys have been missing that that piece I mean me collins is playing well along the interior but they need antoine woods that's that's just kinda how this defense roles is in just the issues ono the run defense and the run defense for the cowboys has been bad don't get me wrong but with Antoine Woods effectively being you're never gonNA see one fan base where they'd be stable but I do think that you know we all tend to sort of have tunnel vision here and we're all looking at just the problem obviously Michael gobs playing extremely on his own and I don't want to take anything away from Michael Gob individually but Amari Cooper also helped unlock Michael Gap and I think a lot of Michael super down on the I think like fifty five percent confidence after losing to the Indianapolis Colts on Sunday football so you you see that you know every fan base structure of it is definitely more hollow so that's why I think the cowboys I don't want that's the reason they surrendered four rushing touchdowns Aaron Jones but that makes it all the more difficult is Iowa make the tackle but when he didn't I knew I was you know in those situations I just pretended I don't see the guy so like when I pretend I don't see him it makes him run force glove eon bell he's GonNa get his I mean there are going to be moments that Levy on bell wins because he's very talented and so I don't know that you should expect for their couch to totally shut him down Vinko offensively the cowboys are gonNA sing and that's because they kind of did that last week and we've talked about this I

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4 Downs with John Clayton 10-16-20

The Sean Salisbury Show

14:29 min | 10 months ago

4 Downs with John Clayton 10-16-20

"So. This is sports talk seven hundred home of the Rockets Astros and the best lineup in Houston Sports. No back to Sean Salisbury. Time to play. Four downs, our Guy John. Clayton. Here on Sports. Talk. Seven. Ninety, the professor ESPN seven ten in Seattle John Welcome, and let me start here in Houston. Struggling team right they won last week but defensively, their struggle. John they've decided Anthony we their defensive coordinator that that the Texans answer a wall gimmicky. They say and we'll kind of high school ish that they're going to give away. A turnover belt. When they get turnover. Now, that's gotta turn a franchise around. Right John Oh big time. Yeah. I mean obviously There's so many players that really cherish the belts I mean because you wanna wear them and all those different things. So yeah, that's that's good. That's GonNa make such a big difference but. The problem is, is that you know? Are they going to get the turnovers because you know the Sean watches good at protecting the ball when he's not getting destroyed with bad offensive line blocking. But you know are they good enough to be able to get the belts out and get the turnover wonder about that that belt maybe staying in that dog on chess on the sideline if they don't pick it up to five games in one was like a four down turnover John just the overall five weeks in on a grading scale of one to ten Gimme Gimme a number grade on this football team overall. I give a day Well. I. Tend, to hike because if. Tim's tends to be in the best one being the worst. That bad. Yeah. I want one or two, I get the same number of turnovers that they've had because I mean, you know the jets were the worst team in the national football league. But when you say, okay, WHO's the most disappointing team in the NFL this year you have to go with the Texans mainly because you're looking at is that they have a top six quarterback who's young and great into Shawn Watson and it completely underachieved both on offense specifically on defense. Now, a lot of the defense of problems have been some of the players that they've chased away and left them very thin for playmakers 'cause. You other than Jj, Watt I mean how many playmakers left on defense not many and so You know that's that's really what was in the cards but that was so predictable Dajani make a great point highly underachieving when you go all eleven offensive line, the receiving core hopefully, they'll pick it up after last week. Disappointment in underachieving on offense which we expected more and they're not gonna it's not GonNa be easy playing against Tennessee. All right. Let's play some doubts. The stakes are enormous. Time to play four downs with John South Jerry and professor John Clayton. I down sound. How much will love you on bill help the chiefs. I think a little bit but. I I just find it. So curious love EON bell to make this decision. Sure. He goes to a super bowl team, but he goes to a team where he's a backup and so what you wonder about a player who sat out the season because he wanted the long-term big deal and what fourteen point five million dollars go that he's never going to get back is he going? There just to kind of you know rest a little bit and just kind of go through the motions and all that I think that's a possibility because you know Clyde Edward Layer is right now the probably as far as a non quarterback, the rookie of the year, he gets eighty two percent of the The snaps as far as the a running back eighty, two percent of. The total he's got the seventh in the League in rushing and most people consider him to be in Andy Reid offense better than Brian Westbrook and Shady McCoy. That's how good he is. Now, there's some things that on can kind of go in there and fix up a little bit hilarious. Not Goal Line Situations Short yardage. He can do that probably a little bit better job blocking in passing situations. And love beyond can help there and then to Lebanon's basically you're going to go be there maybe being the pass catching back and it's like If you're back supposedly twenty eight years old I was like, I think the knowing you're going to make eight point five, million dollars from the jets 'cause they're gonNA pay most of that salary could this guaranteed? I'm just wondering if he's just like an easy respite. Could. Be I think he's going to the right coach John You know he's been a bit disgruntled in his career and the biggest mistake ever made was asking himself out of Pittsburgh. Just was that's his that's his big mistake. But now that's history he's going with the chance to win and probably at best fifteen touches a game maybe maybe a question. You made me. Maybe we're talking twenty snaps a game let alone touches but the only thing that I'm. I'm I'm wondering about this is is Andy Concerned About Edwards Allaire wearing out as a rookie because of that eighty, two percent of the snaps your Tom because he is a dynamic, really really good football player. So maybe an insurance policy John Kinda like what Cleveland's done with Chubb and Kareem Hunt even though he doesn't have the game those two here's productions down. But maybe fresh legs for him and you know you get him to ten twelve touches a game, maybe five two catches and ten runs. I don't know but we're about to see whereas attitudes. I don't think it hurts because I don't think it's I don't think it's high risk and they've got a veteran enough locker room and a coach you can deal with guys did it times may be a bit disruptive but it's not a downgrade it's an upgrade because it had depth. We'll see how much how much he helps. I. Don't think he's got the difference in whether they do or don't win a super bowl. Let's put it that way. Second down. Is Packers Bucks this weekend a preview of the NFC championship game. I don't think so I think that. It's going to be more Seattle Green Bay. Then it's going to be Tampa or New Orleans right now and again. I've had to change a little Bit Orleans because they've been off the such a slow start at three two and barely able to get that third win. But I look at the because you know it's not just a matter of the The fact that you know you've got Tom Brady and he's going to be good and they're gonNA make the playoffs. I have no doubt about that is the idea of where the schedules going to be and really when you look at it, both green, Bay and Seattle are benefiting with easier schedules particularly, the closing schedules I. Mean you're the packers they had the advantage of playing the AFC east and of course, the seahawks have the bandaged up playing the NFC east in the. AFC East and that's where some of the worst teams in football and Seattle has easier closing schedule than the packers and the packers have a great schedule they can continue to win for some period of time. So in the end, what I'm looking at is that you know I think that's the leading candidates right now for the championship or Green Bay and. Seattle John I was looking at the schedule as well, and there's no question the easier path especially when you're outside of your conference or should I say outside your division is definitely the the both packers and the Seattle seahawks they are and they're better right now first of all, it pains me to say it's Seattle and Seattle but is over rated the day. I would take Tampa over them in a playoff game any day of the week right now twice on Sunday even though they're loaded with talent into the Michael Thomas. Situation I think they're I think they could be an upset early out in the playoffs. I'm not GonNa go against what I picked in the preseason, the Tampa and Seattle I mean Tampa Well Seattle in the NFC championship game but Tampa in Kansas City in the Super Bowl, I know that that the packers in Seattle are both better right now they are and they'll both be playing at home one or the other the super. Bowl. The NFC championship appearance is probably going to go through Seattle and or Green Bay fans in the stands are not. You still got to deal with weather and in the trip so for me and if they don't. Go bubble which will get to but you get Brady in the playoffs you're dangerous he loves January he resides January and February and I think by that time they're gonNa hit a stride it's going to be dangerous but they're the third best team in the NFC I would go with your pick to but I'm not going away from my Tampa Bay buccaneers representing in the Super Bowl in their own home state, which will be the first time that's ever happened. Down down. Are the Tennessee titans a superbowl caliber team. I say right now you have to go with them because you know the fact that there were no they just for the buffalo bills were for now and they look and they did it in the most in common way of not being able to practice for more than two weeks. I mean. That's pretty incredible and the and the game. It's a quarterback driven league even more. So this year than any others and you have to look at Ryan Tannehill and look at his numbers since he's taken over as a starting quarterback I mean, he's got the the same numbers basically as Patrick Mahomes I'm not saying he's as good as. Patrick mahomes he isn't, but he's put up the same numbers and that means he's a hot quarterbacks and he was able to get to the championship game last year and you can see that might Rabaul does a really good job with the defense. Yeah. I think I'd put him in a super bowl contender category. They were final four team last year and backup for second about Tampa when I said Tampa plan in their home state obviously I mean Tampa Bay playing in their home state in their home city where the Super Bowl is in in Tampa should. That would be the first time that that's happened along with this John is the. Superbowl caliber team that they are because what's not to like they can beat you physical. They can dominate you the line of scrimmage, their defense and Michael have been the right position. They're solid and good enough in this league you don't have to be the number one defense to win a superbowl. You've gotta be good but you got to have an offense you mentioned quarterback league and Tannehill. While we keep saying guys better ten, he'll keep putting up pro bowl big time type numbers in great play action team and Derrick Henry and they've got playmakers on the edge I. Don't know what's not. To like Arthur Smith a hell of a play caller. You Damn Right. They are in. This is eighteen that we just kind of bypassing and they keep plodding along don't be surprised if in the end those guys are the ones playing at home. If we don't go to a bubble again and they don't have to travel this good football team and the way that they can wear you out a lot of ways and their quarterbacks efficient. If not spectacular at times, the Tennessee Titans, your data and Tannahill today is playing. He's the best quarterback in the division with the way he's playing right now. Fourth down. Should we play the playoffs in a bubble situation? No, I don't think. So I mean, maybe when you get to a championship game but when you're talking more than say two teams. Or four teams. I think that you just can't accommodate a bubble 'cause just too many people involved in your too many people away at the worst possible time. You know because again, it's going to be your wintertime cold all those different things and the bubble is the simple thing you use the local hotel, the hotel that everybody stays at as the bubbles, and then you just lock everybody in nobody gets out you only thing you could do is transportation over to the game or transportation over the practice facility. But the think that cause remember you're talking sixty nine players more than twenty coaches How many people in The front office, all these different people you now have to accommodate something like the NBA where you have you know maybe two dozen guys that you have to accommodate this has to be or in hockey where there's a little bit more than that. But what you're talking about is hundreds of people that have to compensate the and the more games that you have in the more teams are there. It's just really tough to do. All right. Here's what I'm with you John on the fact that yeah let's just play this out and see what happens but there's also a part of me that if you want to get through it. Without. Controversy worrying if one of your players is going to miss even if we didn't take teams bubble them like you're going to Arizona in and four games are going to be played there and you're right the later it goes into the playoffs the easier it is. But why not ask teams that they would like the saints of Disgust let's say you're getting ready to let's just use examples say the Arizona cardinals go on a roll and you're going to play there and you're the Tampa Bay buccaneers why can't your team bubble a hotel in Tampa? And do it all. They're just there where you kind of you can have to ask to stay away from your families and maybe your kids at school and then take your private plane that's been cleaned and everything and fly in a couple of days before to practice there. But stay in a bubble. Even if you WANNA stay in the bubbling, your home city wants to playoff start with isn't it possible? We could ask our players and teams to do that part of it. So at least you take the risk of getting out and then there's the protocol that you apply in the city that was but apply the same protocol to your team in the bubble. At. Home Zach Possible John. Yeah. What I look at is GonNa be the next breakout of team and they'll be a little bit of a breakout of Indianapolis not as bad as Tennessee but the next big breakout that's it's like I. I. Think they're going to mandate everybody having a hotel bubble and that's going to be you know it's GonNa be tough but it needs to. Be Done because you know you know that. Then you go out of the hotel, you have to stay there. You can only go back and forth you may not even be able to get family to be able to visit, and so you just kind of locked everything in the next breakout out I think is going to be a hotel bubble but any. Bubble outside because remember you have to move equipment you have all these different things and it's just too tough. Yeah and then also with that bubble John, the players are going to side with the Union is a paycheck you wanNA keep getting paid. You want to keep going you want people to be safe it some the NFL's going to have to. Ask what I'm with you I think we're going to probably that in some way shape or form before the season's over johnny great stuff man I hope you have an awesome and safe weekend. We'll do it again next week and should be a fun football week in two in the NFL and college I look forward to catching up with the next week. I got that's the SPN seven, ten, the professor John Clayton his just got schooled by the Dean just figured I'd throw that in there a half to. Do you think the. Show sports talk seven ninety wrap it up next.

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Falato on Football: Divisional Round Recap

Big Blue View

21:54 min | 6 months ago

Falato on Football: Divisional Round Recap

"Hello everyone and welcome to the divisional round addition off to one football here on big blue view. Radio i am the host of the show nicholasville auto. We're going to go through the four-game slate of what happened. What materialized during the divisional round of the playoffs. Saturday and sunday games will start with the saturday games when the beat up los angeles rams traveled to the frigid and nature of green bay wisconsin and took on the packers and it was the packers that prevailed because aaron rodgers is an absolutely dynamic quarterback. Right now yes. He's getting older was drafted the year. After eli manning but he still playing at such a high and he had probably his best year yet which is insane to think about but the rams they were beat up going into this game cooper kupp injured his knee late in the rams victory over the seattle seahawks in the wildcard round and he could not address in this game. So it was josh reynolds and then jefferson. Who filled in for him. Both or admirable but it was all packers and it was funny too because jared goff ended up. Starting this game jared. Goff is the long term contract did quarterback on the los angeles rams but seems. Sean mcvay really wants a mobile quarterback. Seems like you wanted to start. Johnny wolford in this game but john wolford left last game with a neck injury again. The rams very beat up he cannot. Place was jared goff and his swollen right thumb. Had to go out there and play this game. He had surgery on his thumb two weeks before this game. And he's out here playing against the green bay packers in a playoff game. He had to wear glove and you know what he had a couple of passes early on that. Were pretty nice. You could tell in his rotation when he was going up to throw the football. That he had to overcompensate for the injured thumb and he would turn his hand before the release point to ensure that balden slip out. He couldn't really rely on the thumb to squeeze the in the cold weather. And that was something that you can kind of see. Jared goff's throwing motion but the rams couldn't really do anything offensively. It was mostly just cam. Akers who is an absolute study at eighteen carries for ninety yards. And a touchdown jared goff did throw a touchdown and that was to van jefferson. But there wasn't a lot that the rams could really establish in this game and green bay ends up just kinda piling on the points and then towards the end of the game the rams turn the ball over on downs to try to force their way back into a one possession game but just could never actually get quite there. There was a point in the game early in the fourth quarter when the rams were able to close the distance because it was ten to twenty five and the rams had an eleven play drive that was marked seventy nine yards and did by cam. Akers seven yard rushing touchdown and then a two point conversion which was a hook and ladder which was really really cool and that actually made the score eighteen to twenty five so one score game but then after a couple of months. Aaron rodgers found allen lazard. Streaking down the field. For fifty eight yard touchdown. The kind of solidify the fact that for you based going and hosting the nfc championship game. They're going to be playing the tampa. Bay buccaneers. We'll get into that in a little bit but this game there were no turnovers in. His game wasn't sloppy from that stance. It was just a better offense against a good defense. But the defense wasn't exactly health. Either with aaron donald with his rib andries and matt before just kind of put on a coaching clinic. Really a playcalling clinton getting davante adams opened on little motions from the backside into the flat right before the snap running full speed getting him the momentum that he needs to break away from jalen ramsey and we saw jalen ramsey incredibly frustrated at his teammates on that one play which was a davante adams touchdown devante ended the game ten targets nine catches for sixty six yards and a touchdown allen lazard eight targets four catches for ninety six yards and a touchdown and bobby t robert tanya had four targets. Call off them for sixty yards and was just kind of clicking two hundred ninety six yards passing two touchdowns twenty three of thirty six looking really good. The running game green bay was also really saw. Aaron jones fourteen carries ninety nine yards for a touchdown with sixty yard. Long run to ball williams twelve for sixty five eighty six for twenty seven and the better team ended up. Advancing would a lot of people in addition they envisioned the green bay packers winning this game. I think the spread was six and a half. Green bay was favored and they hoped that the los angeles rams defense could kinda hold green bay in place but that wasn't the case it couldn't even touch aaron rodgers. Aaron rodgers is back there just having fun. He wasn't sacked one time. Jared goff was sacked. Four times. And i know you have aaron donald. He was hurt floyd. He's going to be a free agent. he's a very good pass. Rusher you have a good defense mean brennan. Staley just got the chargers job which is insane to think about because he's sent so quickly and you thought charters will go with someone like brian daboll but charters wanted to hire brennan's daly. Who is this ascending defensive. Mind defensive coordinator and now he gets the head coaching job for the los angeles chargers. And that's kinda how quick this ends up going out. The rams won this game then. Maybe he doesn't get this job because he wouldn't have been able to be hired and the bills lost. Maybe brian day but without the job. Now i don't think i don't know if it's that simple but timelines do end up mattering and it's if the owner of the charters. Dean spanos has two guys favored in a similar light. He may just go with the one that is available at the time and he locks opens daily so good for him but the rams are sent packing good defense need to work on the offense. It's going to be an interesting quarterback. Discussion should be jared goff because all the money is tied up into him. But he's definitely somebody that you could tell sean. Mcvay is not pleased by. He has no mobility he never runs. And every- uses his legs. Look at a lot of the popular quarterbacks right now in the nfl. i mean even the quarterbacks. Are you really have tom brady. Who isn't mobile. But he's tom. Brady josh allen you have aaron rodgers who's mobile. You have patrick mahomes. If he's healthy. Who's mobile and then you have somebody who isn't but it's just. The league is trending towards mobility to shawn watson. The jackson tyler moore even daniel jones lot of mobility so packers advanced thirty two to eighteen. All right but before we get into the rest of these games three games the quick break to your word from our sponsors. The saturday night game was supposed to be a jam packed just scoring fest between the baltimore ravens. Kind of power gap smashmouth type of running football team. Who has someone like. Lamar jackson with incredibly dynamic explosive ability against his buffalo bills offense that was just clicking and it couldn't have been more opposite than that. The buffalo bills win this game. Seventeen to three in a windy game where there were four. Missed field goals eight punts to ravens turnover on downs and then the one gigantic play which was a pick six by the buffalo bills that really helped sway this game towards the bills to ron johnson kind of jumps an out route takes it to the house against lamar jackson and the rest is history and that was in the second half and the bills at this point. This was a very very sloppy game in this play was in the beginning of the second half and the ravens could never get anything going. Lamar jackson ends up getting injured in the second. Half a little bit after this and then the had to bring their backup. Rg threes on the injured. Reserve trace. mcsorley is been hurt for the last several weeks later bringing tyler huntley. Who is electrifying in his own. Right to be honest with strong some decent balls but to ask him the comeback against this buffalo bills defense in that situation. Downloadable scores is just unfair. They had a couple opportunities. He just missed markey's brown deep on one throw. He threw a deep markey's brown hadn't about two steps. Davis waves approachable corner but only just missed him so the ravens ravens if they scored on that this would have been a one score game and they would have had that final possession as well that would have been the possession of the game because the last possession for the baltimore ravens was a twelve play fifty six yard drive. They were moving the football with a bunch of check downs in the bills were ensuring that they could not get deep but on that dry before they get beat just huntley ended up missing them. The bills ended up going in the afc championship game here. I mean more so much. Credit is deserved josh allen to brian. Daboll sean mcdermott. To this entire coaching staff to these players. I mean devin. Singletary has seven carries for twenty five yards. The there was a big portion of game that they just didn't run the ball. They didn't give devon single terrier carry until late in the second quarter. They can just rely josh allen arm onto the ball thirty seven times. Twenty three of december two six one touchdown against his baltimore. Ravens has jimmy smith marlon humphrey and marcus. Peters credibly good safeties as well very good corners. Just named a good pass. One of the best defenses led by wink. Martindale one of the best defensive coordinators in the league but still steph digs gets fed eleven tar eight one zero six one. John brown good game. Eleven target eight for sixty two. Just peppering his targets with the guys like cole. Beasley was injured. He had to targets. Didn't catch eat. Gabriel davis got dinged up at four targets. Didn't catch any so. He relied on his healthy weapons and he found a way to win this game against a good defense. He was at home. Now he gets the hopefully can teach with pat mahomes. Because that's still up in the air as of right now. 'cause pat mahomes left the game with an injury in the third quarter chad. Henny had to come in and we hope. Lamar jackson is okay as well. He left this game. And that's not the reason the baltimore. Ravens lost definitely. Didn't help kudos to toronto johnson. Who made that huge play. Johnson was the guy a couple of years ago at the combine who went viral because he turned the wrong way during the gauntlet drilling. Gob beamed in the head with a football. So now he comes and he makes this gigantic play. That helps secure a victory for his team has got a feel excellent for the young player. This defense is playing really well. The buffalo bills tremain edmonds is flying around your davis way one of the best shutdown corners ever since matt milano came back. Who's an impending for eight. And by the way making so much money for himself stevens. Been clicking mean getting pressure on the quarterback they've been getting sacks that run defense vastly improved. I remember studs like aj up an esa. They drought this year and all of her who they drafted in the first round two years ago. Even guys who used to be on the east teams. Like trent murphy always verse sound player was an overly athletic but was gap disciplined strong at the point of attack leveraged. His gaps never really made any mistakes. They have a bunch of these kind of guys who just good football players jordan poorer. Jerry hughes levi wallace buffalo in other fans jumping through tables every table in the upstate. New york area is shaking right now but you know what bills deserve man. I love him. Good fan bases get rewarded speaking of good fan. Bases cleveland browns. You've got to the divisional round. But you lost. They end up losing the first sunday game against the kansas city chiefs. Twenty two to seventeen. He gets really close. Look like it wasn't going to be close at all because kansas city was clicking. On all cylinders pat mahomes was in there when he was healthy and they were moving. The football pat mahomes finishes this game. Twenty one of thirty two hundred fifty five yards and one touchdown daryl williams running on the football really well. Thirteen carries for seventy eight yards. The touchdown went to traps. Kelsey by the way who finished the game. Eleven targets eight one. Oh nine tyreek hill eight for one ten and the browns just couldn't really stop them. They were forcing them. The field goals a little bit which was excellent for them but harrison bucket. Terrible in this game one field goal was plus fifty. That's good missed another missing extra point and allowed this game to kind of close then in the third quarter when pablo homes ends up getting injured. Chad henny can't really do much with the football ends up. Trying to push the ball vertically those an interception in cleveland has a chance to drive down the field they actually drove down seven plays could not convert third and eleven and they punted the football and i was the last time cleveland with touch the football but before that they had an eighteen seventy five yard drive through all after pappa homes ends up getting hurt before that drive. He had an eight play. Seventy seven yard drive touchdown so it didn't those four drives in the early parts of the fourth quarter touchdown for cleveland fuel for kansas city. A touchdown for cleveland an interception for the chiefs. Everything was going cleveland's way if this was a little longer. Cleveland could have found a way to win this football game. Msci's narrowly escaped getting out of this. Even the start the second half. Cleveland came out baker. Mayfield interception the tire matthew who just jumps right in front of jarvis landry and it looks like this was going to be terrible game. Looks like there was no way. Cleveland was going to cover that ten point spread which was huge to begin with but harrison bucket goes out. There misses a thirty three yard. Field goal was terrible. The entire day and cleveland methodically drives down the field chiefs. Have to drive down the field because pablo home. The getting injured on that next field goal that they end up making and chad henne came in and that was on a quarterback runway. Look like mac. Wilson like pulled on pat. Mahomes neck wasn't a great look. I i didn't like the hit. Whatever the chiefs barely out of this glue imagine a buffalo bills cleveland browns. Afc championship game. I'd support that i would ally. It would be interesting to say the least with those two fan bases in one of those fan bases being guaranteed a spot in the super bowl to magin cleveland. turn the football over chiefs. Turn the football over in this game. Time of possession was about even chiefs. Outgained cleveland four. Thirty eight to three await because again the chiefs were able to drive down the field multiple times. Get in the field goal range. Cleveland's defense did a good job kind of stabilizing a little bit. Coming up with some third down stops. the chiefs. couldn't cash in bernie points because kicker wasn't necessarily on and that's that really to be honest when it comes to kansas city's receivers outside of tyreek hill. Travis kelsey it. Mykola harmon would four catches for fifty eight yards. Daryl williams got involved in the passing game. Eon bell was basically a non factor in this game was more daryl williams and for the cleveland browns. They tried to establish a roman nick chubb he had a couple incredibly effective runs. Thirteen carries for sixty nine yards. That's solid for sure. It's above average but some of those runs were just very impressive and kareem hunt and really get a touch until i think the second half he ended up getting the touchdown six carries for thirty two yards and a touchdown. The browns were just trying to throw to some of these receivers outside the numbers a little bit dig routes and could tell the cheese really focused on jarvis. Landry ended up having seven catches for twenty yards. And then that one touchdown on ten targets were keying. On hammer short higgins seven targets five for eighty eight psych chiefs. Steve magnolias were saying to the browns look. Beat us. what rashard higgins donald people's jones and whoever you number two tight end his. We're going to put eight in the box. We're trying to stop you. Run jarvis landry and the second tight end of time was david and joe who had five targets caught four fifty nine solid game for sure. The browns almost pulled this off what it would have been a miracle but they almost pulled it off. Now let's move to the last game of the sleep. Which is the buccaneers versus. Saints in new orleans in the superdome tampa bay after losing twice to the saints this season since they play in the same division the as he south prevail and they win this thirty to twenty drew. Brees just to not look good whatsoever. Tom brady looked very breeze. Ended up throwing three interceptions. Only through four hundred thirty four yards just couldn't push the ball. Vertical had one touchdown which was one of them was to trade on smith street on smith actually ended up having two touchdowns in the game. Three for eighty. Five sean payton. I've made a really nice call. He used the play at the bears used against him. When mitchell trubisky through a dime to javon wims wins ended up dropping the ball. He used that same. Play the little line the quarterback on the boundary get the ball to a wide receiver. He pitches it to the quarterback on an end around and then alvin kamara leaks out into the flat and does a wheel and everyone focuses on kamara but the number two wide receiver in the formation next to james winston blocks down and then goes right up the field and splits the middle of the field. Nobody pays attention to him to drop the past. Drake wants the not cheap trick with just ran could throw by james winston who ended up throwing that pass with a fifty six yard touchdown to trae guan smith michael. Thomas got goose egg. He had four targets. Do gut goose egg. Wow i know. He struggled in week one before he got injured against the buccaneers. But holy crap. Since the saints offense couldn't do anything. Alvin kamara only had six targets. Three hundred twenty keen on him. They always do emmanuel sanders. nine targets. Six for forty eight and the saints team. We might have seen the last breeze man. The scenes team just couldn't beat their division rivals. Allow tom brady and company to go in there and just beat them. Just beat them. This was the early on in the game. game was back and forth. it was fun. It was exciting but in the second half it was basically all tampa bay drew. Brees isn't even get sacked in his game. He just couldn't find his receivers. He couldn't push the ball passing intermediate parts of the field. Sad to see sucks and great. Who may not seem again like i said. But that's the way a life comes at. You cut a fast. I guess you say now in this game. Eighteen eighty five no touchdowns sobat offense of output from a really good offensive team tampa bay. Who's another really good offense of team ends up winning this game but it's insane because if you look at the stats antonio brown had one catch chris. Godwin had four catches and mike evans. Had one catch. If you said that godwin antonio brown and mike evans had six catches between them. What would you predicted. This game would have been like you would have been like. Wow too big steamroll holy crap saints. Did it again. But no tom brady. And company one this football game and literally evans and brown two catches between the both of them. Tony brown's getting dinged up a little bit. Mike evans had one catch three yards. Four touchdown against marcus lattimore. Those two definitely do not like each other than chris. Galvin was four for thirty four on seven targets. Didn't really do anything. Cameron break for fifty five targets. Leonard fournette five four six targets. It's a lot of just short little dump offs and and then the saints would rally do the football. Tom brady ended up. Having a rushing touchdown in this ronald jones was thirteen for sixty to leonard. Fournette seventeen sixty three a nice balanced attack. Tom brady didn't even go. North of two hundred passing yards didn't have to had two touchdown passes wonderful net. One evans was officiant with the football. And the saints could of turning the football over so have a base defense kept coming up with these turnovers whether it be the three interceptions drew brees threw or the fumbled jared cook head and they were all basically on near midfield or on the side of the saints side of the field so timothy had excellent fuel position so many times all these stats were comparable between both teams except the score and the turnovers which obviously are the important ones but of possession comparable first downs the same each twenty first downs total yards tampa bay at three sixteen new orleans had to ninety four but the turnovers tampa bay had zero new orleans had four score tampa bay thirty new orleans twenty and now we see tom brady against aaron rodgers. Something i've been clamoring to see in the super bowl for a very long time now is in lambo and tom brady played all those years in new england and now he's a little bit older playing in the snow and the cold which is probably going to be. That's might not be the best for him. This is going to be interesting to see this florida team. Go up to the freezing cold temperatures of lambofield to play a red hot air. Not but i'm all for. We're gonna be talking about it here on florida on football and i hope you guys will be listening so thank you for tuning in to this divisional round addition of a lot of one football here on big blue radio. I'm the host nicholas vlada please. Rate subscribe and review this podcast. Wherever you get your podcast and have a lovely day take care.

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The Sedano Show (HR 4)

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

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The Sedano Show (HR 4)

"Sodano show here on E._S._P._N.. L._A. Ski Hanging out with us. Today got a another forty some odd minutes here in the show so this hour we've got one more of these training camp things to give away for rams training camp me and on Tuesday Thursday will be there. We've got a training camp V._I._P.. Experience a meet and greet with rams players post practice on field experience. We're going to do that sometime in the next like I don't know twenty minutes or so so makes you keep it. Lock your and we'll give you a chance to win that I went yeah exactly I miss week I do. I know this laying great but I miss him. I miss him a lot. Yeah it's always fun. He's he's more fun than any of the people even the ones out playing right now yes. He's just more fun. Everybody s here in Los Angeles. Yeah I miss him. I mean bellinger is clearly better. In right field on we come on. I mean but we more fun is more fun is by the way his batting average up two to sixty after Bergman and those guys were ripped him for hitting under the Mendoza like for the first month of the season like he actually it was longer than that to get the two sixty means. He's actually been on yes yes but no there was a period where he was not hitting well well. He did you see a few days ago. He had a laser like another. One of those laser throws yeah from right yeah so he's actually turned around and had a pretty good season twenty. Two home runs sixty batting average so not playing as poorly as he was earlier but Steve Kerr Steve Kerr basically said the thing that irked Laker fans and looked to be honest inches laker fans at a lot of people <hes> I saw Kendrick Perkins going after him on twitter long story short he basically as you guys should honor their contracts and he's talking about Anthony Davis as kind of the poster child of this which makes it strange because there's plenty of other guys that I feel like did more egregious things <hes> as far as getting out of contracts either way before him or more recently but he chose Anthony Davis and here's just the gist of what he said here's kind of the meat of what he said not a new phenomenon you know there there've been players. I mean Kareem abdul-jabbar forces way out of Milwaukee. Yes <hes> in the seventies and Charles Barkley forces way out of Philadelphia when he went to Phoenix so this is not anything new to me what I'm not even talking about in the off season. You know a team like Oklahoma. City decides to go new direction and they sort of mutually actually decided to part ways with withdrawal salone Russell wants to move on you know to me. That's a different deal. I'm talking more about the Anthony Davis situation. You know we're perfectly healthy and got a couple of years left on his deal and it says <hes> I wanna I wanNA leave yeah <hes>. I think that's a real problem. <hes> that that the League has to address that the players have to be careful with <hes> to me when you sign on that dotted line <hes> you owe your effort <hes> and you were playing <hes> to to that team to that city to the fans and then it's it's completely. You're right to leave as a free agent but if you find the contract then. And you should be bound to that contract. You know if you've come to an agreement with the team that hey it's probably best time time for us to part ways. That's one thing but <hes> you know. The Davis stuff was was really kind of ground breaking I think and and hopefully not a trend 'cause it's bad for the league. I mean first of all. I don't believe it was groundbreaking at all and I love Steve Kerr Okay I do. I love him okay but I don't think it was groundbreaking by any stretch of the imagination he had an opt out for next season next offseason so in essence since had he stayed he in other words you would have given New Orleans to the trade deadline to get something for him okay so he could have left for nothing. I was GONNA say or in theory. He just plays out the contract and leaves. If you WANNA take Steve Kerr at his most literal the free he's not even supposed to be bringing up to the Pelicans that he's unhappy. He's just supposed to play it out and then say I'm out right. He's actually worse for the Pelicans so I think that that there's a flaw in his logic the other part of it is Paul George Situation <hes> even though did give Oklahoma City you kind of get out of jail free card that they loved they did they didn't love it as much as Paul. George like to say when Paul George said yesterday there was mutual a mutual thing here's to either impressed. He pushed back okay okay. I think Sam Prestige being honest to a point. I think he is being honest when he says that's not what they were looking to do. I think all things being equal they wanted to stay as immediately competitive as possible. Keep Russell Westbrook as a lifer but the pragmatic matic part of Sam <unk> who knew the ceiling of this team. He knew the minute Paul George requested a trade Paul. George was doing a huge favor yeah he knew agreed but yours repressed the actually said today just so we have it on the record. I think the world of P._G.. I think everybody knows that that the I know that he he could use the term mutual. I you know I I wouldn't necessarily agree with that because that would infer that we we were wanting to to Trae Paul George which I think most people would agree that that probably wasn't on top of our off season priority list <hes> but I would say that it was not adversarial at all <hes> and I also fully respect the way that it was handled <hes> and the fact that we were able to make it work in a way that benefited the franchise you know meet it something that we could do that. We could do so there's repressed. He set back occur though show the Paul Weather Mike Oh I was just GonNa say what's honorable about the way Paul all George handled it. It was just that him impressed. He got along. I mean what was so honored about the way he handled it. I don't I don't get that I think he means honorable in the sense that he did it behind the scenes. Try to keep as quiet as possible now until it happened not being disruptive right because I mean I think ultimately what Steve Kerr might be getting at and didn't this option is the disruption that Anthony Davis both French right for both franchises and look and I but if that's if that's what he was saying he actually he had to say better right because if that's what he's saying I could agree with that that that's the part that I think Steve Kerr has right in this if that's what he meant because what Anthony Davis and clutch and honestly Lebron all played a role in creating a disruption for both the Pelicans and the Lakers that was problematic for those Iraq's no question about Anthony Davis wanting out and all sides would admit that right but Anthony Davis just wanting out yet or like not honoring his contract that's ridiculous and by the way the Kerr thing was from the warriors. Insider podcast so there's that the Paul George stuff is way more egregious because there's he signed the contract a year ago I was three years left on the deal or whatever and then if we really want to go back like mellow. Oh situation in Denver was really the impetus. I believe I mean maybe there was. I mean he's mentioned guys like Charles Barkley order but I would say one that by the way Barclay needs that reminder never never never Barclay never remembers how he forced his way what we need to chuck I love you but you you have like a show selective memory shoddy memory <hes> but the situation with with Kerr like the Carmelo thing people forget about that 'cause it was so long ago so now it was twenty eleven ten in that range. I think it might have been earlier. No because Morris daughter went to the Knicks in two thousand ten I right and then Carmelo come after show. It was like ten eleven in that range somewhere. I know it was seven eight nine nine eight nine years ago whatever it was but that thing was not great either. No you know what's because they I mean the nuggets at that point were held hostage in the sense that they knew they could only negotiate with one team right now. They made out well of they ended up winning fifty seven games after Mel is approach actually wasn't beneficial for the Knicks other than got him to the Knicks Right. It actually was pretty detrimental for the Knicks yes because he could have waited just to finish out the season season like Steve Kerr would've wanted and he would have had all those players that nuggets got Gallinari and Wilson Chandler and all those guys and and Mas Gov was part of it too at the time and he would have had them on his roster which might have led him beat Roy Hibbert absolutely and David West in that playoff the problem with having leverage sometimes is that you'll use it yeah and you know too much leverage can get you into trouble. Well Mellow has made a lot of mistakes in that regard because if you recall I <music> I'm on my understanding is always been that the original big three Miami was supposed to be Mellow Wade and Lebron but if you remember mellow added an extra year contracts he wanted more money and Bosch became the more viable option because those three guys lying themselves up contract wise. You know what though that's a happy accident for Miami over sure that's a happy accident. No doubt they needed by Anini way more important than Melo would have been yes honor present. It worked out perfectly. I coming up next. I want to get into football. Talk kind of the way too early stuff <hes> there's the the Melvin Gordon stuff and how that plays itself out and how running back said basically become centers. We'll do that and there's some breaking news in the world outside of sports that affects southern California. We'll tell you about that in four minutes. He was playing in this yeah like during Purple Rain. That'd be pretty good for an auction item so good man just amazing like his music it it does really stand the test so well yeah so yeah to me I think it's because he took so many different influences and genres and he just blend the mall in together yeah so there's nothing about it feels dated correct act correct for sure real quick. I WANNA make sure we get this going because we have this one last prize pack to give away for E._S._p._N.. O._C. Week mean and I will be at training. Camp for the rams on Tuesday July thirtieth right now caller seven wins a Rams V._I._p.. V._I._P.. Experience which includes a meet and greet with rams players post practice on field experience you get to hang out while mean and I are doing the show caller seven now eight seven seven seven ten E._S._p._N.. One eight seven seven seven three seven six <hes> yeah back to print so yeah it just he's I mean he's an all time. You know what I'm saying like it. Just he is my all time favorite. Is He really Oh yeah yeah I would say he's certainly in that conversation. <hes> J- Juneau Jeff Katz have met Jeff Hi yes jeff and I did a show the day I don't remember it was the day prince died or the day after yeah and you know it was really it was the story of the Damn us the story of the world wrestling what literally worldwide everybody was talking about <hes> we did the entire show on Prince right and I've never gotten more calls. I have never had more people lighting up the phones to talk about anything anything yeah since we've been on here. I Bet I bet like music touches people in a way man Owen cats is also a really big prince fan on top of it and both of us could really talk about him and I mean people just wanted to weigh in and I don't blame him. Yeah I am a big Fan of nineteen ninety nine my favorite song great it just fun song real quick. I wanted to talk some football years. We haven't really done much of that and look at some time but I wanted to do it like with a fantasy twist so Matthew Berry today. There's a lot of talks about running backs and they basically gone the way of centers in the N._B._A.. In the sense of touched on this yesterday that they've been mitigate right there. That's just the reality N._B._A.. Game is spread out. It's changed some of the senators running backs. You know we've gone more by committee in on a lot of teams. It's hard to draft your fantasy football. Team is what I would say so you brought up a great point during purgatory. which is if you had the number one pick you draft? I consider Patrick Trick Mahomes yeah now. Somebody tweeted me earlier and said that he doesn't think that that's that he can replicate that. I don't know if he can replicate what he did last year but if he gets eighty percent of it yeah eighty-five that's still going to be really really good player from a fantasy perspective yeah yeah man. I just think that you you probably gotta go quarterback right brees or mahomes or one of those kind of guys the problem with going you know the conventional wisdom is that you can get quarterbacks later on the difference might not be so big between guy you'd get in the third round versus the seventh but I think running backs are just difficult to predict what they're going to do over the course of a year yeah I still think the big four running backs are GonNa get a lot of love at the top right. You know what I'm saying like. I think that that's probably kind of the way it goes. You know I love Eon Bell to me is going to be interesting 'cause he's on a bad team yeah but they're going to be from playing from behind and he catches the ball really well yeah but the problem is though the problem with that logic is you're right. They're going to be looking for him to catch the ball but if you're playing from behind all the time it means that your offense can't go so basically you're going to be playing from behind with the same bat offense. They can't get any traction in the first place but. Teams play that differently when they get big yeah. I'll say this is somebody with David. Johnson is my number one overall pick last year yeah. That was not a good strategy I well. They also were terrible just terrible but I mean it just have gotten better. Just should be better than I think. Arizona China was last year but that's always the dicey part and let unless they're a bad team. That's bad because they have an awful defense. Sam Darnold has gotten the short end of the stick with the jets because they're they're bad organization and they <hes> they're not great. I still think they're about a seven win team this year. I don't think they're going to be that good around him but I mean if you think that there are seven win team that can still put up some points. Just the army let down by defense is a good offensive coach. I don't think he's good head coach. Good offensive then that ad then that could make levy on Bello Cave on a bad team but if you're the type of team that's bad because their offense is gonNA struggle then even a guy as talented like levy on bell from fantasies perspective could suffer real quick shutout and congrats to Ryan and Domingo from cerita Sh- he won the prize pack the V._I._P.. Training Camp Prize pack to go hang out and watch the rams training camp while mean and I are there and get the experience v._i._p.. Experience Ray there yeah it is interesting so you know it's funny keys nephew Michael Thomas who would probably be a top three. I three round win at he have a good season last year. He's at first second third round type guy depending on what kind of draft what your rules are but he's easily top three round guy. Oh yeah he <hes> he's holding out. I don't blame him. He's only gonNA make a million dollars this year and he's going to be an unrestricted free agent next year so you might as well take care of your the rams the rams the saints because drew brees is window. I know these guys think they played their forty five it but that's never as long as you've I could see that being one of those situations where drew brees talks to the organizations that note seriously pay this guy get him in camp and then figure out the rest later like drew brees knows his window is all. I don't care how confident then drew brees is. He knows his we only so wide open he does not want to deal with Michael. Thomas distracted or not there right right. No I get you I hear you. I don't want to screw with that. It's kind of like with the chargers like do do you WanNa screw with Melvin Ingram. I know the argument against Melvin Ingram Gordon the removing Gordon. Excuse me Melvin Ingram is the pass rusher Melvin Gordon the argument against it is they were foreign without him. Awesome heckler averages five yards a carry <hes> <hes> but the efficiency numbers were rivers better when Gordon was in and that's not to say. I don't think that's something just to sneeze at. No you know I mean it happens because Melvin Gordon's really good right like he's really good. He can help in the receiving game like guys as like him or Todd Gurley or Levian bell you know David Johnson if he actually was on a functional offense guys like that that can be multifaceted. Threats mean a ton right to to a team to an offense even if they're out of position that feels replaceable not all these guys can do that. Especially because rivers is also getting up in age I would at least consider it is all I'm. I think a lot of this has eight comes down to. How good is your team like? Do you feel like you are really in an opportunity to win a championship <hes> like you could get to the Super Bowl and win it right because that creates an urgency. Even if you're talking about a position that's treated as disposable because your opportunity to win. A super bowl is not disposable correct correct yeah because if you look at rivers. Rivers is efficiency in his last four games sixty eight percent sixty two percent fifty eight percent <hes> then he had the two playoff games where he <hes> sixty eight percent but then forty nine percent so whereas it was very consistently in the high sixties prior to Gordon's injury. I mean how even at a game where he completed he had some games we completed eighty five percent of his passes sixty seven percent eighty-one percent seventy three percent seventy percent ninety six percent of his passes with what we saw we saw the difference we jared Goff when he didn't have todd Gurley where he didn't have todd Gurley running like Todd Gurley. The entire offense suffered so again I understand the four no with Austin neck. Learn all snacker five yards a carry but the efficiency numbers for rivers were better okay and that is not something that you can just dismiss because those efficiency numbers particularly when you get to the playoffs and you're facing the best teams and look. I'm not saying Melvin. Gordon is in there that they're beating the Patriots but maybe they're not getting their asses handed. If you're in the playoffs you want to give yourself the best opportunity to win. I mean what's the point of doing it otherwise show. I do think that some of these guys have value. I think the running back thing is a case by case basis absolutely yeah I mean there are some guys that if they hold out it's like well. You know what we're eight at best. Good luck to you. I'm not an absolutist just in general kind of not my move by the way I mentioned earlier. There was some news that affected southern California A -fornia showed there was another earthquake. I don't know who felt it. If you did or didn't <hes> it was much smaller than the most recent ones we had around July fourth and fifth but also near Ridgecrest which is the epicenter of where those two struck <hes> this one was four point seven now now those that happened on the fourth and fifth like we all felt them. Oh yeah out here four point seven. I don't believe I mean we didn't feel anything in here but I know that people who were working the days of the fourth and the fifth <hes> particularly in the T._v.. 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QB Tiers 2019

NFL Talking Heads

48:06 min | 2 years ago

QB Tiers 2019

"Welcome to the N._F._l.. Talking Heads Fantasy football show here a your hosts jeff carrier and Seth Law. Hello everyone and welcome to the N._F._l.. Talking heads of fantasy football football podcast back to talk some Q._B.'s. We're going to be breaking down nearly every single Q._B.. In the tears we have I think a total of six tiers set hasn't broken down. I'm your host Jeff. Kerr heat is seth breath lull back for another great episode Seth. Let's jump right into a couple of quick news notes. Though we haven't touched on the Melvin Gordon scenario he is going to potentially hold out maybe demand trade of some sort if he does not get paid you know here we are fast forward twelve months where we were last season. What Levian Bell I think definitely most people would understand as a different circumstance in terms of how much he's been paid in his career Kapit Levian bell but for fantasy purposes if you're drafting Melvin Gordon has been a first round player in the top half of the first round all offseason now where does he stack act up if you're drafting in the next couple of weeks and nothing is nothing has been accomplished which is going to be a likely scenario for a lot of people <hes> it's tough? I think it really it depends I mean if it's like we're talking immolate August and he still threatening to hold out and they haven't reached agreement on new contract can't take him in the first round that goes without saying just after it's not the same situation love eon bell but we saw what happened with you know for people that did take Levy on bell first or second overall got burned. I don't know I think I'm word we're talking about second third round for Melvin Gordon I mean I know that meets on crazy. I'm just not I'm just not touching him. I'm GonNa let somebody else take take the flyer on him. There's too many other players early on and I just don't think we've talked about this off the air there's these situations never end well for these running backs. They don't have any leverage. These teams usually don't give in why would they I'm. I'm not touching him. Especially on the first round yeah I think this when we actually agree more so than the previous kind of ones that we've talked about with tyreek Hill and the Todd Gurley one. There's not much upside. It seems like if nothing has been resolved right. We're assuming there's still kind of up in the air. He still waiting for contract. He's still at least verbally saying he'll hold out. I mean you can't take them in front of Todd Gurley. Can you gotTa girlies injuries reese. That's why bring him up. I mean that's bought to start. I mean that's putting me on the spot with that one. I'd have to really think about that. I would lean towards man. We'll talk girl. He's a better player than Melvin Gordon <hes> but I'm more worried about girlies need than I am because Mellon Gordon can't sit out a full season. I don't think he's going to love eon bell did he can't he doesn't make enough money. Levy on bell was lease on the franchise tag already been paid a little bit more avi more worried about. I think I'd be more worried about Todd Gurley but his upside is far greater than Alan Gordon's. They're they're so so close I would hope I would not be in a position to choose between both of them. I would hope one of them would go before me and I could take whoever else I lean towards girly though I guess there's a gun to my head okay well. It looks like I hit the nail on the head in terms of kind of where you're maybe on the fringe of where Melvin Gordon be for you for me. I'm easily taking girly but I also have concerns about girly than view and probably most people so looks like Melvin Gordon as of right now is definitely getting close to if not already slipping into the third round as crazy as is just the uncertainty and the equality of players going still in the second round. I don't I think the upside is worth the risk moving on quick news here not as big but more just typical Philadelphia Eagles frustration supposedly they are bringing back Darren sproles on a one year deal Neil. I'm sure he still has to go ahead and make the team as a super crowded backfield. I don't know what is going on. What is the point of even bringing him back does he? At a different you know dynamic element to their game plan that someone else on their roster doesn't already have or what's going on here. I hate this this opening question. I mean this is like on facebook. You know I'm a big N._B._A.. Fan and I follow the N._B._A.. Buzz things on your facebook feed and uh-huh announced his signing. He's always big signings on the N._B._A.. And then I see Raptor Sign Rhonda Halls Jefferson. I'm like you know what I am not going to be following this M._B._A.. Buzz anymore stop wasting my time with the raptors signing Rhonda Halls Jefferson. It's completely irrelevant. It's is like just seeing that on my news feed. I don't be bothered during the day having to look at that for one second does feel Darren sproles thing number one I he's so irrelevant we already know not to probably draft Philadelphia running backs right. This just reinforces that point Darren sproles like you said May or may not make the team even if he makes the team. He's like a thousand years old has no bearing on any decision. I'M GONNA make in fantasy football this year nor should anybody else's but it is kind of funny that the the Philadelphia Eagles are still making news news in July by signing more more running backs. Yeah I mean you're definitely right in terms of relevant nece. I think it definitely points to just the mentality in the mindset that the Eagles have and the coaching staff. It's crazy. It's more running back scenario so if if you liked or drafted Mile Sanders instead definitely still going to be concerned you're you're hoping that he can break through that mold of what they've had their recently and I don't think that this type of signing <hes> even though the Darren sproles is not even remotely close a talent of Mile Sanders but it's just like why why bother what are you doing philly so yeah all right onto the quarterbacks. We've got a lot to plow now through here the best position alright seth I mean just I'm excited for this episode. This is my favorite tiered episode. I think so. Let's go ahead and kick start us off. We're going to go through as many as we can because I love to do to Q._B.. Leagues Pretty Much primarily all of our leagues Q._B.. Leagues it really gives value back to the actual position. The most important position is a quarterback. There's nothing more boring than being in one quarterback league and having someone like you know Russell Wilson or whoever going in the tenth round or later just because there's too many good quarterbacks any extra input in terms of two Q._B.. League south no I mean to Tuckey Leagues. If you're into league two quarterbacks are the most there argue the most important position as a kind of should be because in real life is the most important position in all sports and one quarterback league. It's kind of like a bomber. Mariah because quarterbacks are just an afterthought. Nobody wants even the best of the best quarterbacks you know are being drafted usually in the first couple rounds so with the biggest thing that you and I we kind of try to do our tears together so we we agree are- almost these tears rough the bat we kinda disagree on one I I was really tempted to put Pat Mahomes in Tier by himself to your one <hes> we talked about a little bit. We ended up putting Andrew Lock amp Pat Mahomes. In two in the same tier which I think is fair because Andrew Lock as good as he is. It seems like he's always a little bit overlooked. Relative to how good he is that people like I think a lot of people including me at the Times forget how dominant Andrew Luck is still young still in the prime this career still just absolutely dominant in <unk>. Okay Mahomes as breakout year is first year to start last year with fifty touchdowns Andrew Andrew Luck through thirty nine touchdowns and I think we talked about Pat Mahomes like that number is gonNA come down a little bit. I think we could see Angela touchdowns. Go Up. I mean he's thrown for touchdowns before in his career. He's got arguably the best supporting cast he's ever had when you look at T. Y.. Hilton Marlin Mac Eric Hebron is just the red zone touchdown machine that he is adding Paris Hick near Paris Campbell to the drafts <hes> bringing in Devin funchess who have nothing else will be another big body to throw in the red zone. He was thrown to nobody's last year outside of T. Y.. Hilton so the Andrew Luck stock could be on the rise this year. Pat Mahomes numbers might come down just a little bit even with tyreek Hill in the fold <hes> so I I am kind of coming around. I agree with you there. In Tier One Andrew Lakhpat mahomes anything you want to add to that I love them. I love them both and has a lot to do with I had a little bit more more say in some of these tears than in previous ones and I think intellect deserves to be in the same tier just because what we saw from Pat Mahomes you know was a phenomenal season but not repeatable now pantyhose and still likely in the top three top four wide receiver as you mention even if you project PAT mahomes go down a solid ten touchdowns isn't me a top three wide receiver time I know he's I know he's good but I personal top appear quarterback who knows with his talent but he's likely going to be in the same range in terms of touchdowns if he just has a normal regression to wear Andrew Luck was Russia which is forty touchdowns ounce. Angela did throw a ton six hundred and thirty nine times last year. I don't know if you'll keep that up. They're still going to be a very you know. Pass heavy offense that might come down a little bit but more or less Angela was a piece. His Office of line is is just WanNa talk to you units in the entire league. He's got a running game his more weapons. I mean there's not too many offenses that you like more than the Indianapolis Colts at this point. No I agree and hey if you're if you're Pamela homes and aiding crazy happens with tyreek hill and you have Sammy Walk Ins. Who might you know get injured like he does every single year and your option is thrown to Damarcus Robinson or just throwing the ball to yourself alf he might be a top fifteen wide receiver relax relax all right here too and this is where we we got we got we got a curb or throwing in here to coming out guns blazing already uh-huh we have Aaron Rodgers Shawn Watson which should surprise nobody studs but a player that we add it to our tier two which I'm assuming we have him a lot higher than just about everybody else's Carson Wentz yeah so I think the first two quarterbacks are obviously you know rounding out the top consensus for Shawn Watson doing a lot with his legs? Aaron Rodgers definitely a lot of a bit more unknown <unk> but they keep adding weapons kind of around hymns in terms of some of these younger receivers now they're going into his second or third third season in the new head coach. You know can't do any worse than what Mike McCarthy was doing there. I take their defense of while some people are always believing that the the packers defensive going to play better. I just I can never get there just until I see it happen. There's still going to be a pass heavy offense and Carson Wentz. I mean top about the amount of weapons this guy is going to have. I don't think this is going to be a great fantasy situation for any position outside of Q._B.. But having Earth's I mean outside of maybe Earth's being consistent but they add in the Sean Jackson they add in J._J.. Arcoxia whiteside is still Nelson Galore. They drafted what looks like could be a top tier another running back they also bring in John Howard's inside. They've got a chess piece for any any any type of play spot on the field down and distance situation. They've got a certain kind of mold and player to go in there for their team which is going to be aggravating for fancy players on the positional skilled front but I think it's going to allow Carson once in office to really thrive and be really honest with you in this tier do for for I'm GonNa be you know always try and be honest wise. He's probably my favorite core back in this entire in the entire league right now for fantasy and even just this tier I can make a strong. I could make a strong case for maybe taking him over Rogers and see I just love I don't know how strong of a case or the but I love Wentz and people forget in two thousand seventeen when he went down with the injury in the game against the Los Angeles Rams. He was on pace to being the M._v._p.. And the season he had thirty three touchdowns in thirteen games played absolute stud and then you saw nick falls go and win the super are win the Super Bowl and then you know he had another key. You know filled in for him. Last year played really well won a playoff game in New Orleans and now that Nick foles out of the picture I just there's nobody looking over his shoulder. He has been written off. He's going to be a healthy finally. It takes a long time for these quarterbacks the especially the ones that are mobile to recover from the injury and get back to a hundred percent where they were before the injury this is setting up for Carson Wentz to have a monster season and he is. I love his value. A lot of people are are overlooking him just a little bit which is good for the rest of us that believe in Carson Wentz. I I just think Carson Wentz is a stud and I think he can put up Andrew luck type numbers so that's why we have matere three which I think his unique. I don't think a lot of people would put him into your three yeah and you just like rushing numbers alone. It goes to show you how much of a different almost type of quarterback he was. You know he only ran thirty four times in eleven games and for less than one hundred yards where the previous season just two more games he ran twice as many times and for three times as many yards and a much better yards per average almost three hundred yards so that's a big difference there I think some people you look at Carson Wentz and they're not too sure if he's a great quarterback or not so it's kind of one of those like either buy into we don't I bought into him since ever since he came out of college so maybe that helps my you know how how I feel Carson Wentz this upcoming season. Some people might say he's a little too erratic or inconsistent. I'm not I'm not there. I think that he's an elite player. He got hurt unfortunately got hurt again. So that's the biggest knock I think on Carson Wentz right now but in terms of an offense Doug Peterson can do this with Nick foles we saw the upside with Carson Wentz. It was the number one quarterback as you mentioned through what the first ten weeks of the season so we we saw the upside with essentially the same system the same head coach. It's all there all the pieces are there. He just needs to go back to where he was. Yeah I think kind of like you say he's become a really polarizing figure. Because of how good Nick foles did and he it's four people to kind of pick a side they are they team-ful team wins and people would just lost sight of how good Carson Wentz was. He is stock was really high. He was a highly high draft. Pick obviously and then he had a very good rookie season he's in and he had a stud sophomore season and M._v._p.. Type season before getting injured and people just kind of lost sight of that because of Nick foles coming in winning the Super Bowl and I think with fantasy you just can't we can't think about that kind of stuff. You just got to look at the numbers and the the offense is going to be great so wentz Tier Three Tier Four. I mean sorry real quickly. Carson Wentz also had his best Q._B.. Rating last year his best completion percentage of nearly seventy percents last year and also had his best yards per attempt last year as well so I think some of his numbers actually got better last year. I'm going to have a lot of shares Carson wentz especially in two quarterback leagues so I'm going to say about it. The I know I most been leased with urine most of my league so that's not good all right tier three and we just have two players in here Russell Wilson Matt Ryan kind of kind of opposites Matt Russell Wilson is the <hes> the sexy the sexy Corey amnestying receiver now you've got me into call people receivers the sexy quarterback who can who can run flashy Matt Ryan whose feels like he's been league for Twenty Years Boring doesn't run but both put up numbers both a rock-solid Matt Ryan was on an absolute tear last year. <hes> had a really really hot star finished. You're thirty thirty five touchdowns to seven interceptions <hes> one of the like what a sneaky good year from Ryan. I mean going into the year. A lot of people were writing him off. He was overlooked and he was. I think you made a trade in one of your leagues to Acquire Matt Ryan. He was like what the the the first or second best quarterback. We're back. All fantasy people like eight or something you know. My trade was actually if I remember this correctly. I don't know if there's Russell Wilson Right. Who's actually Russell Wilson what happened was Russell Wilson added really good year? Last year I forget where they exactly landed up. In terms of finishing out Matt Ryan Finishes Second Russell Wilson was the ninth I made out a little bit on that trade but the reason I Trade Russell Wilson for Matt Ryan was because Russell Wilson was throwing twenty times a game but throwing three or four touchdowns it was just it was crazy one out of every five passes touchdown. It's unsustainable but he kept it up all year so his Q._B. Q._B.. Touchdown Percentages Stupid Matt Ryan. I think what happened in little bit last year is that you know they lost. All these defenders defensive players in week one last year and they've Kinda lost devante Freeman. It is really went probably more pass heavy than they want to but you know they're the eighteen that as much as they want to say they wanna be balanced or whatnot. They've got Julio now Calvin Ridley. They've obviously Matt Ryan. They're going to be a passing team. This is this is what you are for the most part when you have a good you'd really good quarterback and good talent around it so this spot set of Kana reminds me of that Ted end spot of like the O._J.. Howard Ingram Hunter Henry just around there where it's where it's like? These players are definitely better then the other is but I'm not too sure grabbing any of these Q._B.'s that kind of makes sense yeah I mean Russell Russell is also complete opposite and Matt Ryan in the sense that Matt Ryan is GonNa. He's GONNA throw for probably thirty touchdowns. They're gonNA pass a lot in that offense Seattle's the complete opposite they their chops to receivers are gonNA be tire lock indicate metcalf. They don't have a tight end. They're going to run the ball ton. They're one of the top running teams last year rush attempts so I I in order for Russell Wilson to live up to even being in tier three. He's going to have to rush for a lot of yards now. He's rushed for four hundred or more rushing yards every single year outside of two seasons one of which being last season we had three hundred the semi six rushing yards zeros rushing touchdowns which that's an anomaly Russell Wilson is not going to rush for zero touchdowns again. You gotta assume he's going to be in the four hundred plus rushing yards area again with multiple rushing touchdowns. They're going to have to use his legs more to manufacture offense and that just puts a lot of pressure on Russell Wilson to put numbers in the rushing game but also to stay healthy and he's never missed it. He's like the Lebron James you know of the N._F._l.. In terms of durability our ability with quarterbacks when you look at running quarterbacks Russell Wilson incredible you had to bring up Lebron James and go to a different sport for durability yeah because he has that here's Lebron James Kinda like teflon like he's. He's a freak of nature. He never first of all. He's really good at protecting himself but he just never gets injured. Somebody that runs as much as Russell Wilson does and has that much pressure on him and he never he never misses a game you could say you. I never misses a game. He doesn't run Russell Wilson does so in every other running quarterback. We've seen with Shawn Watson mistime seen R._G.. Three beat injured you know all these these other running quarterbacks are injured a lot Russell Wilson never the case so I just you know side. No I think that's pretty impressive all right on to our next year. Yes all right. We're onto tier four and this is where we start expanding the tears a little bit you know just because there's not as much separation between each or back in <hes> Murray Cam Newton Jared Goff Philip Rivers Big Ben Brady and Jameis Winston Jameis Winston in Kava Murray probably being at the the bottom half of this tier but dot com or is upside demands that we put him in tier four just because of these rookie we've seen these rookie quarterback's especially the running rookie quarterback's come into the N._F._l.. And have monster first years so you have put marine air and then Winston just just off of with the addition to Brian is a Brian to Bruce Arians and the fact that James Winstons is going to be chuck in the football just about every down. I think you have to put him in here. I'm a little bit worried about Jared Goff this year. I think this is is a tailor-made. Come slightly back down to Earth Year for Jared Goff I mean he he kinda trailed off towards the end of last season. You have the Todd Gurley knee issues the he'll get cooper cutback which will help but I. I just think that I had to put your often this year but this might sound kinda crazy but I might put him as the lowest quarterback in this year. It's a big tier. I think there's a lot of arguments that could be made for a number of different quarterbacks wide receivers again here jeeze for WHO's first WHO's in last who you might prefer which is why they're all kind of jumbled up together you might you might say oh no ah deserve to be in this tier. Go ahead and read me all the names again since you had that over a bunch of everyone else probably needs to hear then he fall along right helping out our listeners here relax Calamari Cam Newton Jared Goff Philip Rivers Big Ben. Tom Brady Jameis Winston. Who's your who's your? Let's rank. These really quick three got seven seven quarterbacks any clear cut number one any any clear cut number seven <hes>. I feel like we always hate on Cam Newton and every year he just puts up numbers that where I'm like. Why was I not in the mix for drafting? Crafting this guy like I I should have known he was GonNa do this. Kim New in is so tough because one of these years he's not going to run like ham new in right. He's just he's going to. He's not a great thrower what makes them valuable is rushing touchdowns near the goal line in his in partly of his rushing. He's not gonNA throw for four thousand yards. It's just not going to happen so he won't be up there. I'm surprised you don't have Baker in this tier. I guess compared to most people yep. That's the one include Baker I had him and then I added a player and I must have raced in by mistake. So add is a good thing you had me read off these players again. Baker Baker Mayfield is in is in this year. I was debating putting Baker into your three. I know a lot of people might even put them into your to his A._D._p.. Is just through the roof. I I just think we gotta pump. The brakes on Baker Mayfield a little bit and I put him towards the top of this year you could maybe make a case for putting him in tier three just on upside alone but I I think I would lean more towards putting him in the same tier with Colin Murray Yeah I think if I were to lean towards you're asking terms of WHO's maybe at the top this will tear is a type of tear that this whole tier could take two three four rounds to get through. There's a lot in there and I think it'd be okay with almost anyone you know. The starts going in the seventh round and the last person goes at the end of the tenth round in terms of his tear. I'll just give me whoever's last last is how I feel about it but in terms of picking out two names Ben Rothlisberger because of the reliance on the passing game I think is going to have to happen again even without Antonio Brown. There's still just passing team. They Pass Hacen enormous amount of time. Basically everyone from last year is back this year than Antonio Brown which is a huge loss but big band like Tom. Brady drew brees Philip Rivers. Just just give them the body you know just give them someone to throw to. They'll don't get it done. They'll get it done big Ben Finish as one of the number three quarterback last year and now he might you might get him as the tenth so yeah. It's criminal. It's it's a crime it should be. It should be a crime to put big bend the slow I mean I Pittsburgh might be. I mean I Pittsburgh is probably right now my most I think they're gonNA win the division first of all and there my darkhorse team. I like the over we looked at united over under for team. Total wins. I like the over on Pittsburgh is really high in Pittsburgh. I think people are getting their pants up in a bunch about this whole <hes> Antonio Brown leaving and they're like Oh. This is the end of the world and they forget you still have Jew. Do you still have big band. You still have James Conrad like they're just he's going to make everybody around him. Better and I think to be a big year for Pittsburgh. Big Ben at the tenth is just is crazy so I'm i. I agree with you. I would be a big Ben is my favorite like if you look at Big Band Brady in rivers and you know maybe Goff is like the pure passers I think big bands my favorite in that bunching and then you have kind of Newton Murray Baker are to an extent and even Winston is Quebec's. I can run to and I I really like Winston if we can get him later but just in terms of tears I I think it's hard not to want to get Colin Murray. Yes this is is GONNA so. I was just going to say I had two big. Ben Was my first one and my next one is calibrating. I'm okay with people saying hey. I want to go for the upside on Baker. I think that makes a lot of sense because you know what you're going to get Tom. Brady and Philip rivers is probably not going to be top five Q._B.. We but it's probably going to be like right around number ten or something like that or twelve. They're going to finish as a solid number. They're gonNA play all sixteen games but in many ways we're trying to go for the upside so I understand that what Baker Mayfield but the other person Uber excited about his colleague Murray ran for one hundred and forty times last year his Oklahoma. I'm a little hesitant in terms of how much people think that he's going to run but at the same time I have freaking no clue right like I watched some of the tape. I'm like I feel like he reminds leads me a lot of Russell Wilson in the sense that you know or any of these running quarterbacks like Andrew Lock that is going to pass I that that's the impression that I had I which was like okay I unlike watching Lamar Jackson in college. It's like okay. This guy can't all design runs so Calamari is passing game is he. He can pass the ball like his arm is big. You could tell that he was a baseball player. He knows how hottest slide to protect themselves. It's it's hilarious. On how many of these Q._B.'s haven't played anything that involves sliding you watch someone like Russell Wilson or Calamari. They know how to avoid danger to your point earlier. In terms of Russell Wilson avoiding danger the the big thing we calum Murray is going to be I think as rushing that's going to keep his floor up because I'm not sold that he's going to be this this great. You know four thousand yard passer for twenty five plus. I don't know I just that probably has a lower percentage chance of happening than him actually doing it but if he can if he can actually run one hundred plus times than than there we go we. We've got a lot to work with in terms of his floor floor. The fact that we just don't know make is is the most one of the most attractive things about comradery because we've seen when Cam Newton came in in the N._F._l.. It was just a complete revelation like holy smokes. You know like R._G.. Three tickly by storms I even Lamar Jackson who is nowhere near the passer. Cow Marinas was very saw for fantasy because of his rushing numbers and I agree he's like Russell Wilson sense that he doesn't. He doesn't look to run ever but he has that extra gear he can go to because he is lightning fast when he wants to run. He can smoke people so it's GONNA be. It's GonNa be an adjustment period for defenses. I think he's a quarterback they can have success right away and he has the upside to be like the best in this entire tear because we've seen these running quarterbacks are much more valuable for fantasy because on a weekly basis they're they're going to start the game. Basically you can pencil in for ten points just because they're rushing numbers <hes> Baker. I'm a little bit more about the injuries on a little more worried but he's gonNA throw a ton of interceptions probably because he's a he's a gunslinger. <hes> is the one thing you can look at Baker is he has a better offense around him both Murray. He's got laid Fitzgerald David Johnson. That's a good place to start and I think he can uses legs so that's a big tear anything else you want to add to that or good for us to head into tier. Five is one more thing I want to add in that is a little bit opposite of what you were saying about Jared Goff and that is your little bit concerned with him. They might be a little pullback back. I'm actually I'm actually high on the rams again this year. I don't think there's any reason any of us should be scared off by the rams just because what we saw happen at the end of last year I think it was definitely more fluky anything else. Almost two full seasons seasons of Sean McVeigh's offense destroy murder people so they had a kind of a freak scenario they had to deal with with Todd Gurley seem to manage a quite well with the C.. J. Anderson Marlin Brown's coming in to fill dylan for him and obviously got absolute stifled in the Super Bowl so it's like everyone's top of mind but jared goff before before weeks one through eleven and then even including his bi week put you should include because his bi week was late weeks. One through twelve jared Goff was a fifth quarterback only point two points off of Matt Ryan Point to who finishes a second quarterback. I believe as we just mentioned earlier. So Jared Goff was one of the top quarterbacks essentially besides Pat Mahomes with he was in less than one point of being the top quarterback number two. I got better backup to Todd Gurley this year. They need surreal Henderson they have they lost Cooper Cup last year right so they're going to get him back. I don't think there's any reason to think that we're we're GONNA get not get the jared Goff and the rams offense more specifically the rams offense that we all know I know of the first eleven weeks jared Goff after the bye week when Tiger hurt he threw for more than two hundred sixteen yards two hundred sixteen yards through more than sixteen years one time one meantime so he had a bad ending season real bad. I don't expect that at all yeah well. We have missed here for reason. He's he was definitely really good last year. I think he'll he'll be good this year. As a matter of matters how good there's a lot of good players in this tier right so but I'm just I am still really high on golfing. The Rams specifically the rams in general because McVeigh he's one. He's one quarterback we won't be fighting over or I think tier five and this is this is this gets really boring this point five the big Tier Dak Djabel engage why don't you I know it's Dak Prescott. Jimmy G. also also known Jimmy Garoppolo her cousins Mitch trubisky Lamar Jackson Josh Allen. Obviously I think Jimmy G. if he finally lives up to his potential and he can stay healthy and put it all together. You gotta say Jimmy is the cream of the crop but besides that I I think it's everybody else's Kinda you know Dak Kirk cousins Saul quarterbacks. You know really good quarterbacks to your second or Third Q._B.. In two core quarterback league Lamar Jackson. I won't have any shares of him. He's he's too one dimensional. I think he's GonNa have a disastrous year. I think he's going to completely bomb but his you gotta give them respect because is rushing ability so you've got to put him into your five. Josh Allen. I I just his rushing ability. He's got all the tools and I think he he can at Buffalo is going to be bad this year but I think Josh Allen is going to be sneaky good because of his running ability and getting tears tears starting to drop off a little bit but you agree with me to probably trubisky and Jimmy G._B.. And the cream of the crop to this tier five I mean <hes> I think they're so close. I think that I think that that could make an argument. I think you could make an argument for Dak.. He rushes what five six touchdowns every single year even with Zeke there and it feels like Russia more to if they if they were just cut him loose then that changes everything yeah. There's a lot like trubisky trubisky reminds me of an early Russell Wilson where they just wouldn't throw a now granted Russell Wilson's back to not throwing after a couple of years of throwing he he threw only four hundred and thirty four times in Fourteen Games sixteen game pays four hundred ninety six that would have been one of the most certainly not so great. I mean four nine six is not terrible but it's not you know five or seventy six hundred times six hundred seventy five like Big Ben so think volume is an issue with your bisky. I think trubisky's got high upside if they end up in a situation where their defense doesn't play as well as they did last year they played better opponents or behind a little bit more. trubisky's numbers are good across the board sixty six past push present is seven point four yards per attempt needs to bring back down the interceptions but if he just had more pass volume he'd be ideal there Lamar Jackson's complete wildcard. I mean literally no idea what the thing about Lamar Jackson who pays for twelve hundred and fifty rushing yards if marge actually can run and they basically just run into the red zone he can somehow have decent touchdown rate in hit the like twenty touchdown mark even just a twenty Mark Mark Jackson could have some scary game upside put him in our Jewish butman running back to yours we should it doesn't belong in our quarterback two years yeah so. Did you say kirk cousins in this year. Yep Kirk cousins cousins is the one that I would fade a lot. I just he didn't have he had okay year but Minnesota wants to get to running the ball if you look at last numbers the last three years after up to three years last three weeks I believe it was after they fired their O._C.. Di Filippo embroiled in the new. Oh see his passing attempts went dramatically down. He'll still have his games. We throws for thirty pass attempts but I think that office going to be a little bit different. I think his upside essentially compared to some of these people is not the same. This is a tricky one but to your point. This is where you're hopefully getting your seconds Q._B. in a two Q._B.. League yeah I think all these I think this is the this tier particularly is is a great second quarterback Tier One quarterback leagues you don't you don't really want to have any of them as a starter. They're all be really good second corps bacteria and cons a good second quarterback this because he's he's his floor is upside is limited obviously compared to other quarterbacks but he's going to have a pretty solid floor and he's he's still got stuff on an empty owns. That's gotTa End Alvin Cook. That's gotTa count for something and then to your six I mean this is like this is the situation. You do not want to be an even in a two quarterback. These are these are now like your third quarterback. Hopefully you know the quarterback so you can put on your bench and spot bought star Stream. If you have a really bad matchup for one of your first two Q._B.'s uses a bye week filler. If there's an injury injury insurance we have Derek Carr Matt Stafford Nick Foles Sam Darnold. I think I dare car intrigues me a little bit just because of the addition of Antonio Brown second year Jon Gruden System. I think they're gonNA be less of a train wreck this year than they were last year Josh Jacobs I should help in the passing game to another option <hes> so I like dare cars upside a little bit Stafford is what he is at a stage in his career nick foles. I just don't think has anybody to throw to Jacksonville. It's a Disa- a terrible situation even if you like Nick foles. I think people are going to see pretty quickly. That Nick foles like the honeymoon period for Nick foles is already over its week one it's GonNa be it's GonNa be a rude awakening. He's no longer in Philadelphia and Sam Darnold. I don't know he's a nice quarterback like if he's my third Q._B.. I had a couple of dynasty leagues. I don't mind him but again. He doesn't have really anybody throw to either so I just I think Sam Darnold and falls are clearly on the bottom half of this year with Der Cards Stafford being great third quarterbacks if they're your number two quarterback it's yeah I think I think I mean like if everything goes correctly yeah. They're your third in two Q._B. Q._B.. League but you're you're in drafts and you have to kind of go ebb and flow with how the draft goes and I've been in several where I'm just Q._B.'s are growing so fast that I'm just not willing to commit to some of these other mid tiers that we've already talked. What about you know a round or two earlier than I anticipated so what I end up doing is I finding myself all the way down here at the bottom of the barrel and you might start off with a really good Q._B.? In you know name. Named one of our top three tiers and then I just don't get one of these four five tiers which is big lot lot of players. Go off the board so I ended up finding myself here sometimes and it's okay if this is your second is it's not great like you mentioned but what I would do is I'd grab two of them. You know grab two in this tier or one in this tier one of the next year which is basically the balance of the Q._B.'s whoever's remaining Josh Rosen of the World Eli Manning's the nice part with Cuba's is they're going to score points because they're touching the ball on every play but if you're finding yourself grabbing your second Q._b. in the starter Q._B.. In this starting in this range with the Matt Stafford Derek cars the world grab to and the main thing I would be looking for is volume. That'd be the main thing I'll be looking for at are probably any of these people is just trying to figure out who do you think has the most volume who's going to be passing it. The most the probably have more per game upside you they might be similar but if one person's got more volume in particular game they might have that higher upside. That's kind of Howard approach it. They're all so similar that I don't know if I have a strong preference on either one as as of today other than the fact trying to figure out who's GonNa pass the ball the most who's got the most <hes> snap you know I feel in partisans on staffer but I feel like if they just had a good head coach in good a good offensive coordinator later and they knew how to put a system around Stafford that make him successful. You know they've done a really nice job surrounding him with good young town with Kenny Golladay T._J.. Hopkinson Kerryon Johnson and they still have Marvin Jones. That's a pretty good young core to put around Matt Stafford. It doesn't seem like the ability able to put together a lot of that's been on Stafford but that's the one thing that I will say that can one wildcard is Stafford has a really nice balance supporting cast at all the skill positions so it'd be something to keep an eye on but you know he is. He's sort of proven to be kind of what he is. At this point so tier six was repeat it one more time Derek Carr Matt Stafford Nick Foles and Sam darnold right and then so the rest of the players basically in the last year so we've gone over twenty four quarterbacks up to this point so if you're in twelve team league everybody will probably in theory. You have two quarterbacks somebody some things might have three so the some of the quarterbacks we left off frank which really aren't even really worth talking about too much marcus Mariota case case keenum Joe flacco Josh Rosen Andy Dalton Eli Manning Slash Daniel Jones. If he ends Haskins Dwayne Haskins took you said Joe Flacco so Joe FLACCO Laco I mean these are quarterbacks are startled even into Quebec Leagues well. Here's the though if you're in a two if you're an atonement league and you got to Quebec League which were part of you're going to have to start some of these people. It's just it's just you know the unfortunate. We're just the nature of the leak so that being said I I wanted to request to you which was say you're in my situation that I just described a little bit earlier. Go you get Matt Ryan K.. That's your number one guy you feel good about it and the other middle around Q._B.'s just don't end up going the way that you wanted to go and you find yourself starting into your six right so you're you're six and tear seven Gimme two two quarterbacks that you wanna grab in those tears you know and y maybe those two. You're trying to balance out one. That's got maybe higher floor one's got higher upside tar Gimme two Q._B.'s that you're gonNa go if someone's finds themselves in that situation well. There's nobody in tier seven that I really want unless maybe like Dwayne Haskins. This is my fourth quarterback to balance out third quarterback which which would be like Derek are Matt Stafford like if I like those are the two that I'd be looking at Derek Carr Matt Stafford. They're born but they you know they're. They're solid in the same sense so I'd go for like somebody like that and then if I'm GonNa take a flyer and somebody else I'm certainly not going after case keenum or Josh Rosen you know or Joe flacco you know potentially the only other quarterback that potentially be interested in maybe A. B.. Might be like Andy Dalton and I feel like I feel like I'm always gonNA like anti doll no matter how how far he's fallen and I know I talk about him every year but it's just Tyler Boyd A._J.. Green Joe Mixing any Dalton as your as your third or fourth quarterback is an terrible like I think he's somebody you could put in you know maybe when they play Cleveland or you know when they play a really bad defense you could put any Dalton in and expect. He'll throw two touchdown so I I don't think if you had to start in Dalton or Eli you know Derek Carr staffer like it's the end of the world but I certainly wouldn't want to be in a position that it to have to start Mariota or case keenum or Josh Rosen Joe Flaco or even join Haskins early on I would maybe stash him but I'm GonNa wait and see with Dwayne Haskins. I think that at that point in the draft it's it's bad like he you don't WanNa start like I'm at least getting quarterbacks that have proven they can be somewhat solid lacordaire car stafford. Eli Does that answer your question. Yeah just kind of curious your approach mine would have been maybe grabbing one of those not that any of these really have too much upside but maybe dwayne Haskins has a little bit more so if I grab a Derek car then then maybe next Wayne Haskins and I think that any interesting player because I'd have to look up to see what his actual numbers I think he actually played pretty well last year before A._J.. Anchoring actually went down but I think think out of all of those players or quarterbacks Derek Carr and any Dolan probably has the best talent around them right. I mean maybe very e- efforts got very comparable talent. I think the difference with Stafford well. He doesn't have the the level. Why receivers that that Dalton has but he's got? I guess it depends on what you think T._J.. Hawkins going to be this year. I think T._J.. Hawkins and could potentially be I mean we've I've never seen Matt. Stafford have a really good tight end. I mean they had Eric Brown Eric Brown experiment which didn't work out and and before that he had Brandon Pettigrew right he had a think like four Yay for for a little bit like he really hasn't had a tight end <hes> so Fiji Hodkinson lives up to to his draft price than I don't know. I think that the the x factor but yeah any clearly with A._J.. Green and tower boy you gotta give him the edge slightly in terms of talent. Yeah I think those would be the I guess the three just kind of narrowing it down car stafford and any dawn in to just follow up on my stat. I was trying to bring up any don was is actually Q._B.. Fourteen last year right behind Ben Rothlisberger through weeks one through eight when aged green was healthy and he'd owns Q._B.. Fourteen almost Q._B. One so I think he's definitely one one of those players that could drastically outplay his A._D._p.. And if you're definitely down at the bottom of the barrel is assuming the A._J.. Green can stay healthy which is question mark at this point in his career. He can have good return on his value in the I don't want to play seven games last year. He was on pace. He was on a thirty touchdown pace which we're talking about the bottom of the barrel getting quarterbacks as your third or Fourth Quebec. I mean dirty. Touchdown potential is pretty good but deep pretty good all right seth well. That's going to wrap up our Q._B.. Tears Jeez talking about everyone all the way down to Joe FLACCO man covered. We covered the gambit there we.

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Any Move Is Possible: A Free-Agency Preview | The Ringer NFL Show

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"Hey, guys, it's Kelly and welcome to the ringer podcast network. I want to tell you about our new show. Can I sleep for a second the ringers guide to Colton season streaming now on Hulu the show is an inside look into Colton Underwood's season of the bachelor starring Ben Higgins, Rachel Lindsay, Lohan Zima, and our very own Juliet Limon make sure to tune in before Monday's finale for never before heard insight into all things bachelor nation streaming now on Hulu. Welcome to the ringer NFL show. I'm Robert Mays joined as always by Kevin Kevin how you doing buddy? I'm doing. All right. Still getting over the what twenty five minutes, we're Antonio Brown was a Bill last night. I was asleep. I was unaware of that until little bit later, which is great that's on stretch of NFL history or anything I'm not going to be one of these people would take a shot at the city of buffalo. I actually quite like it, especially when the weather's nice. Oh that that region of the country. I will say however that Antonio Brown's twenty five minutes with the bills was maybe the best stretch of any bills player last what decade? It's a great moment in history. That's what I'm saying. We're gonna remember McCoy. Away some of the defensive lineman. I respect for but Antonio Brown's twenty five minutes, it was this Shawn McCoy snow game. Yeah. And this those are those are the two best moments. I guess making the playoffs county. Davis white is good. He is good. But man does twenty-five minutes. We're gonna talk about free agency today and pretty much every single free agent offensive lineman. I I did I wrote about that today. I did potential landing spots. And I said the bills for every single one because they need more or less five office of wine starters. It's not going great there in terms of offense. Hey, how about that? Kevin Zeitler Olivier Vernon trade. So let's get into some of the news outside of Antonio Brown. And that includes the Kevin Siler, Libya Verna trade, I love player for player trades so much and this is a perfect one. It's the definition of a win win for both teams. The giants desperately needed help on the offense of line. They are another one of those teams you could've seen Roger cephalopod going there. Maybe a free agent tackle. And now they managed to hope. Figure out that spot at guard with an established player. I mean, Kevin Zeitler makes a lot of money, but you know, with these types of deals you have your cutback in your annual salary. But when you get traded you're signing bonus is getting paid for by the original team. So it's affordable. You know, his cap. It has ten million this year ten million the following year and twelve million a year after that. He's a very good guard. Just seemed like the giants are excuse me. The Browns felt like they need to pass rushing help. And this is a contract handed out by the previous regime. It makes sense in a lot of levels. Sure. Sure. It's fine. It's a definition of a fair trade. I don't think it's going to tip the scales. Either way the Browns now have some really good edged depth. But this is not the difference between seven wins in a Super Bowl. I think I think the Browns are gonna be really good this year with or without Olivier Vernon but good for them for adding some edge depth. It's just a smart way to use your cap space. If you're the Browns, I mean, there aren't that many edge rushers that you'd really wanna pay, and they're certainly aren't any pass rushers on the market right now that are better than a Livia earn it. So this is a way to use the money that you have while. Getting a better player than you possibly land in any other way this offseason. Sure. And that's one of the things I want to tackle here because the Browns have seventy eight million dollars cap space with fifty one players, which is how they calculate calculated in the offseason. Okay. The best players. You can get right now are via trade Antonio Brown owed L Beckham, it's a little different category. But Josh Rosen is apparently available for trade. Those are the guys who are going to have. You know Rosen is not going to have a huge impact in two thousand nineteen but Odell and Antonio Brown are the best players who are currently available in any form when I think is really interesting as you have the colts hundred five million dollars cap space, the jets ninety seven the Browns seventy eight the Bill Seventy-three the Texans sixty eight that's a good team with with a lot of cap space. There's not a lot of guys to spend that on no and national issue. So I not typically there are better players agency. Would so fascinating is if you're okay at safety, which is a very deep position in this free agency. If you're okay at some of the. You know, I think there's some really interesting wide receivers. For instance, there are some interesting defensive lineman. But if you're okay at those positions, and you've got one hundred million like what are the what are the colts going to do one hundred million dollars? You could see the Colt signing a couple of bigger named guys on the market though. Right. You could actually I mean, they have the money and they have needs at positions where some of the better players are available. So all of their good players are rookie like they don't even it's now they're they've got a ton of guys coming up next year. No this year, rather? No, no need to revisit Darius Leonard right now or Quinton Nelson. We're going to be acquired in the last two seasons. So they don't have to worry about it. And I give you a stat from Kevin bow. And I'm just blown away by the gets into why the colts have over one hundred dollars and caps bad. You certainly may if the colts re-signed Clayton gathers he will be the first colts defensive draft pick to resign with the team since the two thousand nine draft when they when they resigned, Philly Malala that is an impressive level of terrible drafting not hard to do that in the last nineteen defensive draft picks is via Kevin Bowen. Now one person signed a second contract. Could Lord the ragweed everyone. What are we doing? That's that's almost oppressive. It's horrid awhile every single player that Chris Ballard is drafting just going straight to canton. No one Grigson drafted on defenses. We got a second contract or a lot of football. What Bjorn Warriner is in doing TV in Germany, and meanwhile, we're just putting Darius Leonard and Ken, they're the culture getting guys like Margus, hunt and extending him rather than you having guys that aren't worth retaining at this point. It's right. Yeah. I how man Darius letter is the best colts draft a draft pick and how long. I don't know Dwight franey. Oh, it's probably after that Bob saying. Okay. I don't think overstating it for comedy's sake. Yeah. No. It has not been good on defense. All right. So let's dig into a couple of these positions specifically, let's do it. Let's probably start with the defense of linemen. We're going to combine edge rushers and interior defensive linemen here because most of the bigger name guys available in this class. Are this are there defensive lineman or safety? So yeah, I think that after obviously this changes a lot just based on how many are franchised so DaMarcus Lawrence off the market Defoe. Lord. Frank Clark, heavy and cloudy Grady Jarrett, so pretty much all of the best free agents are not available which gets back to our point that there's aren't that many guys that were spending on I would say this group starts which Ray flowers. I mean, he's the type of player that becomes available from the patriots. They don't like spending that much money at this position. And that's why I guy Trey flowers who's an excellent player is allowed to hit free agency. Yep. I mean you see at Trey flowers, Malcolm Brown. Very different players different production. But they're both hitting at the same time. The patriots don't like spending money on D line because it just going to find the next Trey flowers, they've they let Chandler Jones go before that obviously different career. But they let Richard Seymour go. When Rishard C more was seen as one of the top players defensive line in the NFL, obviously he did not carry on that tradition after one's getting to Oakland. The patriots probably knew something we didn't. They got a nice hall for them. And so I think generally the patriots know what they're doing when it comes defensive line. But I do think Trey flowers at fourteen fifty million dollars. And it's a good value. Right. More than that. I feel like he's I saw fifteen somewhere. I think I could I could see him getting more than I could see him getting like seventeen million because it depends. It depends. How many of these teams with eighty million dollars and no players spend it on getting volved? That's true. And be what the colts could be one of those teams that they're bunch of teams that need eggs rushing help. And it's a premium position. And. This is the question. That's always worth asking about free agency. When you see all these guys hitting the market the answer that you have to ask why why are they becoming available and in the patriots situation. It's because they don't value the position it's not because Trey flowers isn't good. A reminds me a little bit of clay Campbell when class hit the market, and they just couldn't afford him based on how they'd spent elsewhere, and you could see him playing a slightly different role in Jacksonville his word. I think Callejas Campbell's a much better player than twice fires. I think he's a better player. But I'm just saying in terms of you could predict anticipate the production being a little bit better to if it hasn't been in the past. Sure, there's a reason all these guys at D liner are on the open market flowers. We understand showing richton mo- Wilkerson sue on the market. Ziggy Ansah Dante Fowler. Even clay Matthews. Everybody has a reason, and I would say the if the the least worrisome reason as you said is Trey flowers, which is that the patriots. Just going to find the next trae flour somewhere else. Who where do you think he lands? Jeez. I I would love to see him. What the colts which is start. When you start looking at it. I mean, I don't we need to let let's just break down the top team top captains. Okay. Houston does not need another more money. And pass rushers was only there. I don't know. Buffalo would they take a flyer on somebody like him? They could. I mean, that's a team that what Roswell Alexander is a pass rusher. That is also free agent. You could see them doing that. They have lacked shack lost and Trent Murphy, Jerry Hughes. But if they don't feel like Murphy is a long-term answer. Again. They have the money to spend Miami. Cleveland's good. Yeah. Miami. Maybe be the Cam Cameron wake is I see coming back to football next year. I actually don't know the answer to that. I know he's a free agent. But I'm not sure if he's made a determination on that. I just haven't heard him bandied about as as, you know, potential. I mean, he's thirty seven years old. That's the reason it's just age and health for him. He's on the field. He's still pretty good. Sure. Sure. I mean, he has to be a specialist at this point. But yeah, I mean, he's not he's not worthless. At this point in his career. But no, I think I think Miami's interesting thing. I may who know you have Brian floor is by the way down there ending. There's also the same sort of connection with Mike Gabel? If because the Tennessee could probably use a pass rusher. Derek Morgan sitting free agency, and you can make Derek Morgan's. Type of guy could see the patriots signing for like six million dollars. Right. Like, that's that's going to be there. Trey flowers replacement out the titans patriot flowers. Sixteen million patriots are gonna play Derek Morgan six, and that's just how it's gonna go. I need to ask you a question. Do you know the name of the Texans offense coordinator? No, Sean, Ryan. No, absolutely, not what is someone named Tim Kelly. Oh, the quarterbacks coach who's the dour now. No. He was the tight ends coach. I didn't know who that was until the other day when I read the staff right now, I swear to God, dude. I swear to God, I was looking up something and I saw the phrase Texans coordinator, Tim Kelly, and I was like dog what? Who's their off screen last year, though? I don't even know it's these teams are the head coach to calls the plays. And it's it's just you're just faucet. Just a wildcard. I you could have given me a hundred guesses. That's great. Okay. Let's get into some of these other guys that was I just wanted to make that very important point. Okay. Some of these other deal lineman. So I would say after flowers get in the group behind him is pretty bunched up when he questions everybody's got a huge question. Mark around them. Yes. So you have Ziggy Ansah Dante Fowler. You probably throws the Daria Smith in their from Baltimore and clay Matthews. What's not who is who is getting after the quarterback before getting heavily penalised all September last year? I you somebody else can sign clay Matthews. I'm all set with that. I'm not I'm not going to sign him. But I'm just letting you know, we're not going to sign him. We're not gonna he's not going to be third man on the ringer NFL show next year. But what I am saying is that he someone might take a fire on him. Because at least who was getting to the quarterback. Before getting fifteen yard penalty last year. All of these guys are the types of players that we typically see in free agency. And so you could probably say is not. I mean, he was franchised and just got hurt and was not a non factor last year. But you have guys like Fowler who was banned kind of band around teams a little bit. You have a guy like scenario Smith who was a part time player for Baltimore. That's looking for a payday in a bigger role after having really good personnel. Pass rushing stats who are you most interested in this group. And where would you like to see them go? I have a question for you. If you're a contender. Do we think about sue because he clearly just mentor? He mailed in a season. Then turned it on in the playoffs was actually quite a good contributor to the Rams if I'm a contender and need defensive line depth, and I can get him for eight nine something like that. I'm I'm kinda ain't on sue. I mean, I'd rather have Sheldon Richardson Dhamma consumer than any of these guys. If that's it's just a matter of what you need. But in a vacuum. I think there are better options than anyone not named Trey flowers among these pass rushers. Yeah. I agree. Poor Muhammad Wilkerson. He's he's kinda done. I mean, that's just a really it went real south real fast. Yeah. That's for him. I mean, he's probably gonna get one more sort of Cup of coffee contract. And then maybe that's it. If we're looking at sue. And we're looking at Sheldon Richardson, are there any landing spots that jump out to you. I mean, I don't know. I mean, some of the some of the teams like taking flyers on a guy like shelled merged shouldn't have already had Sheldon Richardson, like see how you know what I'm saying. I I don't necessarily know where to project those guys man, I think that there's there's just as you said a bunch of where it is. And this is completely separate. But where does someone like Preston Smith, go it? That's the problem is guys like Preston Smith. They're like one step down for the teams that miss out on a guy like flowers or value. I mean presses Smith was a different position than those guys rushing juice. He's almost more like Anthony Barr, which is another name that. Daria smith. So Darius Smith is one of those guys that it's always worrisome. I mean when you have a guy that was a part time player and he steps in. You're paying him to be your number one pass rusher. What about late entry to the fridge and pool? Melik jackson. Molly jackson. I mean, Justin Houston is another guy that you can get that's not part of the comp pick. Going to see released. I believe he's going to be is that what they've said. I thought they're trying they're going to try to train them. Maybe like kind of like a case keenum type deal six for a seventh kind of thing. Well, we'll see what I mean. I mean, I don't know if he's in the pool, then he's another guy that I think deserves. Incineration absolutely a team that I've always said last year in regard to sue. And they didn't want him. But I thought could be really fun destination landing spot for somebody that needs into your pass rushing. Help is the chargers because they aspect of Corey legion. And Brandon me bay next year. They there. There is a free agent. I listen the game has changed in the last five six years. And when we're looking at it's not necessarily about who has a gaping hole at defensive tackle or edge, or whatever. Because some teams just going to prioritize paying defensive lineman to have a rotation. I think that you look at the Seattle Seahawks, and what they were able to do and basically set the template with that twenty twelve twenty thirteen twenty fourteen on where they have Chris Clements. They've Michael Bennett have cliff April. They've all of these guys were somewhat those picks were just some of those pickups were as a obviously extremely undervalued players. But be it's not like they had a huge necessarily positional need at one point there just stacking talent. And and that is the model, and so when we say, okay, where some show Michigan ago, he might just go to a team that already has depth there. But when it comes to deals like that and the Rams and sewer the same thing those are one year stopgap prove conflict. And Richardson has had those and how it was on it last year. He might get another one Dante Fowler might get another one Ziggy onset has been so banged up. He might get another one. So I think actually the one year prove it deals with the short-term Provea deals might actually become the default for some of these guys with question marks. No one's going to sign clay Matthews to three year deal. That's that's guaranteed pass the first year. Yeah. If you're in Dhamma, consumer not exactly like you'd need long-term financial stability, you're done. You're good. You're good. Yeah. I again, I think you're right. It just puts so many teams in play that we wouldn't typically consider. But I also think that there are teams that need into your defensive line help that would be a little bit more motivated to do it. I think you can do in Seattle. I mean, they absolutely need help in that area. They have enough money to spend to go get him. But yeah, you're right, especially if these guys are more interested in a one year ten million dollar deal than they are in locking themselves in for anything long-term. The pool was pretty much endless because almost everyone has cap space. Except for the Jacksonville Jaguars who now are going to use all of it on Nick foles. I need to talk about this. The defensive line for the twenty thirteen Seahawks was April Bennett red Bryant. Chris Clemens Jordan hill to Clinton McDonald. Brandon me Bain meeting was hurt though. Wasn't he? Yeah. But he was on the table. That's pretty ridiculous. Could McDonald got a nice little contract out of that from Tampa Bay one of the many defensive lineman that Tampa Bay has paid and it did not work out. It's a yearly occurrence for them. That's true. Like everybody they've signed except to Sean Jackson, basically. Yeah. No. That's true. Oh god. That one free agent class. They had it was just so terrible. What was it? Michael, Michael Johnson. And who was that tackle that they signed from Cincinnati? There was also just as terrible. Oh. Anthony Collins was named. No, no, no. From Georgia Tech. Michael johnson. That's he's from us a defensive end. But Anthony Collins was the offense to tackle the Johnson. Michael Johnson's the bangle. Yeah. Baby out then we're Bengals both of them came on Cincinnati at both of them were a disaster within like a single year that tends to happen down there. Yeah. It really does. Okay. Let's talk about some of the safeties. That are available. Obviously some of the bigger names available in free agency this year. I would say that Earl Thomas is probably the biggest name available. He's a guy again, you can trace why he is a free agent. Seattle just did not want to pay him. He's been injured a decent amount. But it still feels like he's going to get a deal that might be the most expensive safety contract in the NFL agree. I have a question for you. You're an expert on the Chicago Bears Adrian, I most being a free agent. Would I thought he was good? He is good. So what's the wires? He free agent. They've spent a lot of areas. Okay. Pretty much against financially. They only have about sixteen or seventeen million dollars cap space right now, they don't have to treat this as a good thing. Even though it's a bad thing. They don't have to pay a first or second round pick this year. So that we're we're looking at these exactly right. We're looking at some of these teams the number that you see right now is kind of fake because you have to your Mark money for your draft picks, the bears don't have enough draft picks to your Mark money. So they actually do have the cap space that it says that he right now. So we'll see what happens. I mean. Some of that's going to get eaten up when they eventually cut Cody parkey, and he's going to have some dead money, which is fantastic. But Ailes is a good player. I think somebody is going to get a really nice safety. Whoever lands him hopefully, the bears managed to keep him. But that's the problem is there's so many guys there that feels like his value might be driven down a little bit after Pearl time. I so I'm not sure everybody's getting paid. I totally agree. I mean, Landon Collins is really interesting to me. But apparently, you know, the giants didn't value has covered skills much as they'd like, which is is interesting to me just seeing what a modern. Safety should be. I if if the giants really don't believe in his coverage skills, and I don't think it's as bad of a a move as many people think I think there's some really interesting kind of it's almost sort of a mirror image of the defensive line where there's a couple of guys. I'm really intrigued by but then there's a lot of questions lamarcus Joyner being one ha Clinton Dix being one. I would still I would love to have the Honey badger in my locker room. Yes. I would be shocked if he got out of Houston. I just feel like the way they already hitting the he's already hitting the open market. Why? No, I absolutely could happen. It's just surprising to me after everything I went down there during the playoffs and talk to him and a couple of other people around that team just about the president said he'd had would he brought to them. And if you hear them talk about having they everyone there just loves him. Which is that's the player. He's become at this point his career. He just a fantastic leader that is pretty much as one hundred percent approval rating. So I would be surprised if they let him walk away. But at this point, he's valuable he said to healthy seasons in a row. He play. Well last season. He definitely deserves a payday poor down cannon while again, it went bad real fast there this. Years. This free agent class is a lot of life comes at you fast. Definitely is number Haukeland Dick's number. I said and you were right to do. But I was last October. I was like I think the Packers might trade hot Clinton Dix. And you're like why would the Packers do that? And at that point Clinton Dix was considered like a top tier safety. And now, I just I can't imagine he gets a significant amount of guaranteed money. I mean, he's the fourth best safety in this fresian class. So that's not really great. I also I think the NFL teams are making a massive mistake. And you know, you've written about this about two thousand eight was peak safety. I don't necessarily even think that's I think that safeties are as valuables I've ever been, and I think teams are making a mistake throwing these guys onto the scrap heap. I just get it. The safeties are so important. They're big enough to tackle there. Fast enough to stay with receivers. You have so many great slot receivers. In this league. I understand the tight ends of cycled down to where it was only maybe three or four those quote unquote, freak guys. But if you know if you're an individual, George Kittle. When a one a bigger guy back there that would be great for me. I just I feel like safeties. Are what you need and teams are making a mistake. I understand. I I don't know. I I don't think NFL teams know what they're doing. I don't think NFL teams understand the league they play in. Sometimes I guess if you could make the argument kind of format it this way, you could say, you know, so much more man covered. These guys that are guarding tides running backs now receivers, that's probably the argument. But I still feel like with the way the middle of the field is used now and how much teams are attacking that spot. It just helps to have good players there. So I don't know. I don't understand. I didn't understand the last year. I mean, the guy who was the face of this last season in a way, I mean outside of Eric Reed was entirely different thing is probably trae Boston who played well for Arizona. And he this was available for nothing in August. Yeah. I mean, Eric re to that's that's a whole different conversation. Sure. But he got his extension as soon as he signed goes there was there was value in him. There were thirty one other teams who are not smart enough to to pick him up. So I, you know, I don't remember what they finished with. But at one point drew Brees was completing eighty eight percent of his past over the middle of the field. Get helps to have a guy that can play gonna one a guy who can who can be in the middle of the field and regulate if you're going to be playing drew Brees, just my just my two cents. I'm no football guy. Put that's my advice. I assume that Thomas will get something close to the Eric berry annual value, even though he assured me out it'll be a shorter deal at assume like a three year deal worth like forty million or something like that. Everyone else though, I could see them coming in closer to that. Tony Jefferson, Mark he got a couple of years ago from Baltimore. Let's just four years thirty four million. I do think you should WorldCom issues be delivered to the Cowboys. We just have. All right. Do you think he's going there? That's my question. I do you really do. Okay. I got to tell you. So this Bryce Harper thing member everybody was like he's a huge Yankees fan. And he's just going to go to the he's like the talk for eight years. He was coming to the cubs. He named his dog Wrigley. And he's best friends with Chris Bryant's coach fans at essentially penciled him into the lineup was he just trolling every fan base. I think he's yes. He's telling the Devil Rays. He was coming. Did he have like a Manta Ray fish tank in his house to get the Devil Rays fans excited pet stingrays and some kind of in in European soccer. There's this me more every single time anybody signs with a team. They just automatically say was their boyhood club. Well, absolutely. I grew up rooting for this team. Because you you're always can be photograph in any. I probably warlike fifty team jerseys when I was ten right? So like if I signed for the Seattle Mariners tomorrow, I'd be like absolutely huge fan. We all we all were those. So that's not fair. Yeah. True. We are all huge buehner heads. Dallas. It just seems like it's going to be tough for them to do because you have DeMarcus Lawrence is a franchise tag. You would like to a long term extension done for him. Even if you do though it doesn't feel like you'll be able to negotiate his number down that far. I mean, it's twenty point five million against the cap on the tag. I assume he's going to make that annually on his contract yet. You also have more Cooper's accession that you have to sign you can get his number down this year. It's fourteen million. I mean, you get down to ten, but it's still chunk of change the Dak extension most likely, and you if they wanna resigned Byron Jones, they can't do all that. And bring back Earl Thomas, it feels like it's a Byron Jones or Earl Thomas situation. Byron jones. He's a very good player. So those are the type of decisions you really wanna make. I think he could go there. But it wouldn't be for another team could pay him. And if the forty Niners come in with a monster deal, which they have shown they're willing to do in the past, you know, market cap be damned about how some of these positions. Get paid ask jerick McKinnon and Kyle us check than I just feel like he's going to end up going there. I agree. I I don't know. I'd love to see him. I'd love to see him in Dallas. I ended up playing in those big Avon. Yes. In place. It's so rarely happens where that that all works out as we just discussed, but I- there'd be something very cool about that. Yeah. It fits it's he's a huge name player for a Marci franchise, and it would make a lot of sense. But I just think the realities of it are tough. I I a ton of sense. Landon Collins going to the colts just seems fit in my mind because you have cooker there who is. Excellent free safety. They pair well together Darius Leonard and Landon Collins both as dime linebackers disgusting. So that's the type of team where they have the money to spend. And that's the type of player that you should spend it on have you heard the stories about how world Thomas would basically just like watch the Cowboys in the Seahawks locker. No, that's incur. Like he would rush into like check the Cowboys scores. I someone told that story I on the radio or something like a couple of years ago. I thought that was really it was around the time like a year ago. It was around the time where he like was basically saying I need to play with the Cowboys before we move on. Let's take a quick break. Did you know not all alcohol products are required to us there grease? That was news to me. But light is changing the game. They believe that we deserve to know, our beer's ingredients. So they put an ingredients label right on their packaging. Bud Light three with hops. Barley, water and rice, no corn syrup, no preservatives and no artificial flavors. Find out what ingredients are in your view, Bud Light. Enjoy responsibly aby Bud Light beer, Saint Louis, Missouri. Let's get to wide receiver where there as you said at the beginning of the show, some interesting names, not any huge names. But some guys that I feel it can help some teams Tiro Williams is somebody that again. Yep. He's a free agent because they spent a top five excuse me, a top seven pick on a receiver. They've already paid Keenan Allen. It's just a lot to invest at the position. In a way reminds me of what happened with AJ boy in Houston where they already had John Joseph on a big contract. They went out and they drafted. Kevin Johnson in the first round. And at that point. It doesn't matter that issue is good. It's like all right. Well, thank you for your service. We we don't have the room for you at Tira Williams was never on that level as a receiver. But he's very good. And in an expanded role. It feels like he could really help a team. Yeah. No doubt. I mean, that's Terrell Williams is someone I'm really intrigued by you can't really find that kind of speed on the open market. And I'm I'm extremely intrigued by that. I would say that there are a couple of skill guys that I'm I'm I'm really kind of honing in on. I don't think golden Tate is as bad as he looked in. Philadelphia me neither. I mean, he had dropped into a scenario in the middle of the season when he's having to play a little bit more outside than he had to in the past because Nelson galore Laura's there, I still feel like golden Tate is a good player. He's not going to get the Jarvis Landry money that he's looking for. But I think that he's worth paying over a couple of years. Yeah. I mean, I totally agree. And I think that you can get him on a bargain deal because he didn't fit in Philadelphia. And I think that there's this meeting going round, which is accurate, by the way that Philadelphia cannot figure out sort of where to go with you. Then maybe a worse offensive system. He'd be even worse, but I don't necessarily follow that line of thinking. I think that. Levian bell is and let's throw him in here because he's a skill guy. I think he is now become underrated. Okay. I just think that we've all every top team has now been rumored to not be on levian bell. And I just want to reiterate that love EON bell is a really good player him on a two year guaranteed deal for big money. I would do it. How much money? Oh, I don't know. I would try to get him. So I don't think he's going to go more than sixteen a year. That would be insane. You think it's even in that you think that's in the realm of possibility. Sixteen million dollars a year for for for over thirty two million dollars over two years. That seems insane to me thirty two million dollars over two years. That's more guaranteed money than David Johnson got on his contract. Yeah. But David Johnson didn't reach the open market. Man. I it's hard for me to believe that Levy on bell was worth as much money per year as the Rams are paying Todd Gurley. As David Johnson are playing the cardinals. Or is this? Is this cardis are paying David Johnson. Levy on belt didn't play football last year. He's on her Marquette. He's also I mean, he's been suspended as well. I think when you get a bunch of teams with over sixty million dollars in cap space. They're going to be okay guaranteeing him fifteen to sixteen over two years that would be my just complete guess, I just would never ever ever pay him that much. It's really I mean, you you can you can tie it in you, can you can make it you know, you can have per game. Bonuses, you can do whatever you wanna do to where he gets value up. The the story on him was always that that he wanted more sort of a cosmetic number than guaranteed money. And if you want to give that to him go ahead hell signed him to a twenty million dollar a year deal. The only reaches Vig, it's twenty five hundred yards from scrimmage who cares? Skit creative with it. Yeah. Per game bonuses put in insane incentives. If that's what he actually cares about gopher what I'm saying is is that levian bell at his best with all with all the cat. The cap went up again ten million dollars. It goes up every single year. And if you can get Le vian bell for what thirty million dollars guaranteed over two years, and he is love EON bell, and you can put in you know, if you want to you can make it, you know, twenty million dollars guaranteed, and then put ten million dollars in incentives. Whatever it is if he's Levy on bellowed his best that's a steal. We've gone too far in devaluing some of these free agents the colts have a hunt again a hundred and five million dollars in cap space. What are they going to do? I would spend an Levy on Bo. What is what then tell me what they're going to do with it depended on Tiro Williams, Trey flowers, Atlantic Collins. I'd rather okay. If they're gonna end up like the Browns who went out, and, you know, get traded for Paris. Randall obviously is coming up and traded for a bunch of these guys and they signed him, and they still have seventy eight million dollars in cap space. I would save it for somebody. That's better than Levy on bell or more value in Levy on Bill. I would rather give Trey flowers seventy million dollars over four years than spend fifty dollars per se. What I'm saying is that these teams with a ton of ca by the way, I'm literally pounding table right now. I'm literally become the GM. What I'm saying? Is that those teams you're talking about are going to have cap space leftover they give trae flower? It's a luxury item you can afford. If you have that much cap space. You can you can you can structure it. So that the only reason I feel like you don't do it is if you actually think he's going to be a quote unquote distraction, and he's going to actively harm the team other than that you can make it work teams with that much cap space to not need to worry about the cap in the short term at all. Yeah. If you're the colts in it's a two year deal like we talked about before you have no one they need to worry about paying anytime soon. Aren't argue that give him twenty million dollars in the first year. And they make the second year, essentially. Significantly less guaranteed or unguaranteed. And just see what happens given the most money and see what happens you have the money. If you think it's going to actively harm your locker room harm your offense. That's one thing. If it's financial note, no excuses. The only thing I feel like that could hurt his value outside of just running backs being devalued systematically over the last year, we look at every single pig. Running back contract that's been handed out at every single team. Probably had buyer's remorse right now. I do want to talk about it. That's why I'm telling you. The like two years is is where we're it needs to be two two years Garin shorter or even one year if you wanna front load it, but I thought it was really funny. The comments it that Steven Jones made at the combine which were Zeke contracts starts at the Todd Gurley contract. Okay. Has anyone checked in on the Todd Gurley contract lately? Every single one of those contracts. It's not just Todd Gurley. The five biggest running back average annual salaries in the NFL right now not being given to a guy on a rookie contract, which it's amazing that saquon Barkley. Has the fifth-biggest? He's a rookie deal for nets out there to read for nets seven so. Yeah. But every single and that's not a rookie contract. Okay. Todd Gurley which shirt, but if we want to discuss that right now, David Johnson who was not very good last year. Devante Freeman who was hurt the entire season with Shawn McCoy who averaged something like three point seven yards per carry last year and jerick McKinnon who did not play. Those are the top five. I just think is teams look at that kind of stuff, and you could say those are some freak occurrences and Bill is better than a lot of those players fine. It just really worries me. And then I think if you look at the teams that have money like you're talking about the colts have a ton of money. The jets have a ton of money. The raiders have a lot of money outside of those three teams. Are there? Is there any other team in the league that you could say, oh, yeah? They'll probably want to chase Levy on bell for the most part. There aren't that many landing spots having love EON bell on your team is better than not having on bell on your team. I'm fine with that. Again. I just think that we have to talk. To certain degree about how much guys getting paid. But we've gotten a little too too much into this sort of ruthless sort of private equity guy costs play where you can't you can't, you know, the Billy bean stuff. Obviously, I'm a huge analytics fan and all that stuff. But just this idea that any low cost contract is good in any high cost contract is bad. Right. Like, I'm with you. We've been thinking about this for two decades since moneyball, and I do think there's something to be said for the fact that, you know, a great example is the patriots world dead last last year in rookie money. Well, we all sit around and we talk about rookie money and well the patriots don't care about rookie money. Okay. Obviously, they were there's a bunch of guys who are making four dollars for them. So it's it's not like they were going out and breaking the Bank. But one of the things they did the year. They beat the falcons was they just cornered the market on eight to ten million our players k they figure out that inefficiency. What I'm saying is that right now fourteen fifteen sixteen million dollar in. Agency with the rising cap that might be where the sweet spot is you might be able to build a team around that because of the rising cap. So which teams do you feel like are in the mix that you people have not been talking about because they're not necessarily the teams the poppy going gonna go to the fucking jets. Yeah. That's makes them a problem. The problem is going to go to the jets, you could disappear an idiot. So okay. If you're a team, I think the type of team you're talking about right now and just the way it fits and even if the money is not necessarily ideal is the Texans. Right. If you were the Houston Texans. Would you want Lebanon bell? Yes. But also the Niners. Unfortunately, already went out and got your McKinnon who's supposed to be there sort of dynamic back, and he's kind of pay levian Bill. No, no. I understand. I mean, they have sixty million dollars and cap space this year. But I I understand that you can tie. What would it be like twenty seven million dollars a cap space up to running back? So I'm not sure even with the rising cap that's surveyed their fullback. More than any fullback in history. So they're just breaking the norm, brother. That's what I'm saying. With thomas. It's like we'll fuck it. We wanna guy we're going to go get him that seems to be the Niners MO at this point. Look what's the top ten with cap space. Ravens titans. At ravens make so much sense. To me. I kinda like that. Ravens titans. Sort of ravens or number eight and cap space. Titans number ten titans. Do you think he'd go to the titans? They've Derrick Henry and Dan Lewis. They just pay for Dion Lewis last year. But he's better than those guys. Sure. But still it just allocating resources to one position in that way. I just don't think they would do it again already spent you cannot hurt your I if I'm John Robinson Levy on bell is like I will take a thirteen million dollar deal over two years, I'm signing that. Yeah. I just I would not do that. I think you're the ravens it makes just based on your offense. I don't know if he'd want to go there with a large accent. But I mean, he could be the centerpiece of who they are offense. I wouldn't want to go there. That'll be great at just think that the long term viability of a quarterback is important for skill position players. And if you have reservations about Lamar Jackson, I could understand being hesitant about that. Yeah. Yeah. It's not going to go to the Bengals number nine cap space. No, probably not is sniper addiction. The raiders a ton of sense to me until eleven possibly. But I think that again they what's the wise running backs game. Carrie Johnson is a good player. I don't necessarily have immediate need. They have THEO Riddick. I feel like Broncos are out. Hey, if the raiders got Livian mbelle let we asked this question. So Antonio Brown's sweepstakes, everyone thinks the raiders might be on it. Right. I think that the Steelers just run it back if the raiders got levian bell Antonio Brown. How many games do they win next year? I don't think that many had hit it. I still think they're very good. I the raiders are a team that makes a lot of sense to me if he does not go to the jets. I like the raiders you could just see it because they need something splashy like they're about to move to Las Vegas, and they don't have any players if they don't get cholera Murray, which it sounds like they've made no secret that they want him. They need somebody to sell tickets. And I think Levy on bell is the type of player that they would go out and get just because it's a splashy move. That's why the Redskins were in on the Tonio Brown thing. It made no sense. But they wanted him because that's what the Redskins new trying to get new stadium excited. I'm in Washington. I'm in Washington right now. There's a lot of boys about the Redskins. Is there? Yeah. Can't walk down the street without anybody stopping stop into yak skins. I'm joking. I I haven't seen anything about the team are very quickly before we move on. You think bell ends up at the jets. That's your guests. Yeah. Only because I just think that for some reason, the smartest teams are so anti paying or running back to they can't see the forest the trees, I hear you. I think that he if you can get him on the right deal, and you're a team like the colts. It doesn't hurt you that much long. And I feel like more teams should be considering that if they have just the financial health and outlook that team like the coal task. Okay. How about tyrod Williams? Jeez. Anybody who needs who needs speed? You know, who I'd like to see him with. I know that this is this is kind of funny when you just look at the top teams, am I wrong to think that we couldn't get alongside foster a deep ball offense with Josh Allen going, it makes total sense. I actually should be on. What if we just just four verts? That's it just that's the right offense with Josh L to be honest. Well, no, it was kind of the thing we talked a little bit about this on Simmons pot a couple weeks ago. But you know, when you look at the PF routes run. Bye bye passer rating with the receivers lock. It was number one. Antonio Brown was number three. I think jus number two. If you if you're the Seahawks just trade for an Tonio Brown. Put lock it on the other side. And then just four verts eighty times a game slot. It's just go. Yeah. Doug Baldwin in the slot. Running dry would be eight times. It'd be about twelve times a game. That's the problem. Oh my God. They would get until new Brown that have Baldwin the slot that they've locked it. And they all run go routes, and it'd be a nice little draw right up the middle to their first round running back every single I down the cardinals are in desperate need of of receiver help. I think they're going to be in on some of these guys. I feel like the colts are getting this conversation. I've thought they were a perfect golden Tate landing spot forever. And I think that they probably will be looking for help at that spot and with Tate. Also, I also Baltimore I think they're in these guys most likely here desperately need. Running back up. I think Crabtree receiver help Crabtree and John Browner on the market. Yes. So I feel like if you would Baltimore I think it would make sense to go out and get a guy like tape. But you there's a possibility that they think they have too many middle of the field receiving options already and take taken like six tight ends in the past year. Yeah. And then I think the patriots. It's you can't rule them out with Tate. They try to trade for him last year. There's probably some redundancy with him and Ataman, but they definitely wanted him. So I could see them at least sniffing around. Yeah. It's it's I I think there's so much money again, there's so much money. No one is really capped out. The Jaguars were able to get thirty million dollars cap space with four cuts in a day in day woke up the other day with three million now they can afford Nick foles, plus maybe somebody else, and I think that that's the new reality. Okay. Tampa Bay's got one point seven million. But that's that's their Tampa Bay. There's a couple other teams that she. Chiefs don't have a lot of money. They will obviously as it gets closer. But he I just start to think and I saw a lock and fourth thing. But he basically said that the chiefs would trade for Antonio Brown if they could. Why am I could? I mean, if the Steelers would trade him within the conference to a contender they could afford it. Right. They haven't they've got his fit point eight point nine, but they could sort that out really really easily. Well, they're just uses progress. And that's what I'm saying. Yea. But I'm just saying my overarching point here is that there's so much money. And so few top tier guys that's really hard to project where these guys are incorrect because anybody can afford anybody. That's the reality of this cap era ten million dollars a year. And we only talked about the Chola MAC deal. The climax deals almost a bargain now because of the cap rising. And I think teams are starting to understand that premium for agents always become bargains because the cap keeps rising and will essentially until the CBS in twenty twenty one. So let's talk about Nick foles, very briefly here just the kind of quarterback landscape as it exists because there isn't much going on the problem with Nick foles, especially now with Washington traded for case keenum, which I don't know about you. I like that. I I know tastes can you know, just because I'd rather have him the dollars. I'd rather have him than Joe flacco, they're playing case keenum three and a half million dollars this year. They got the Broncos to take a huge chunk of that. Contract to have a starting quarterback for three and a half million dollars. And you had to give up nothing for him. I don't care if you don't like case keenum they needed somebody to start for them. I don't think they should pick a quarterback, but pay three and a half million dollars for any reasonable quarterback is not a dumb thing. All right. Here's my question. The bears are paying taste angel six million bucks. The shoe think the Jaguars traded for case keenum. That's a really good question. Because I sorta think Jiwa should've traded for case keenum gone that route and draft a quarterback. I'm totally in in on that I love that idea. I like that much better than giving Nick foles the case keenum contract from last year. The case the problem with the case keenum contract is it goes to guys like case keenum. Yes, that's exactly rights. And I think Nick foles is probably closer to a guy like case keenum that your long-term answer a quarterback. That's correct. So that's why them doing this. I just I don't know it seems like they're hell bent on it. But it was never my preferred option I would much rather sign a quarterback. And if you can get one for three and a half million dollars that would be ideal and then pick one in the first round. And even if you want to trade up for one in the first round, they were the type of team that I felt like it made more sense for do that than anybody. And it doesn't seem like they're going to do that. Or they're going to sign Nick foles for eighteen million dollars a year Andhra quarterback in the top ten which doesn't make any sense to me. That's what so many teams have done. So the cardinals did last year the bears did it with Mike Glennon? I I never understand. Why teams do that? I want to talk about another quarterback free agent that we have overlooked. So Greg Rosenthal. Chris Wilson into a great great hundred one free agent list. Yep. And I was reading it and dot com for number not familiar number hundred and one is a quarterback. Who is it? I don't know. I haven't seen. I haven't seen the bottom of that list. No. That's that's the question. It's a trivia question where? It San Bradford. Oh, Jesus Christ who gives Sam Bradford dollars. Let's do I can't wait for levian bell to just get like seven million dollars all on guaranteed and the same team gives Sam Bradford fourteen million dollars for no reason, they just panic. The problem with the quarterback market right now is that there aren't that many landing spots for quarterbacks. So you look at a guy like teddy Bridgewater who's hitting the market. Where's teddy Bridgewater gonna end up? If foles goes to Jacksonville. And it feels like if the Jaguars were that interested in teddy Bridgewater. They would trade it for a year ago. That's another one where things out or you swayed in. Yeah. These guys are available for not a lot of money. And then teams a wait too long and have to pay them like one hundred and fifty cents on the dollar. So if Chetty Bridgewater is avail is if it's free agency, and he wants to leave and be a starter somewhere. The only real option right now as I see it is Miami. Because no one else needs a starting quarterback way. I have a question is are they just going to grow run it back with Tanna hill guy. Cut him. But then then Ryan tannehill is is is a better option than almost anybody. Sure. But where does Ryan a Hobo if he gets cut? I don't know. He should go to Miami. It seems like things it. I what I'm saying is like it's one of those things where if Ryan tannehill were available the best quarterback for the dolphins assigned is Ryan tannehill. Yes. But it doesn't feel like that's what they're gonna do. I'm just saying that that's the reality of it. I assume he'll be June. I cut that will I hold on. I'd rather I understand I love Nick foles. But I'd again I'd rather have Ryan tannehill on a discount and then draft a quarterback. I'm with you. But it doesn't feel like that's what the Chad wars are going to do. They are hell bent on this Nick foles thing. Let's let's get Ryan tannehill in Tampa to compete against James Winston, Bruce Arians thing they need to do with that. I that's why I think team like I don't think teddy Bridgewater would go to Arizona 'cause I don't think Bruce Arians covets that sort of quarterback but a secondary option. Yes. Is it what I say, Arizona. Oh, it's all right Jesus. I don't think he goes Tampa Bay just because I don't think Bruce Arians likes that type of quarterback of the he wants somebody with a bigger arm. But I do feel like they need to bring in some competition and real competition. Not Ryan Fitzpatrick competition. I'm telling you maybe Bruce is going to be able to execute my idea, which is James and Fitz. Look amazing in spurts and an awful and other spurts. So you just keep trading them out. And they. Came the amazing parts. So they resigned out of it Smith, they gave him a pretty big contract to be there left tackle, which that's all you need to know about free agent left tackles is that if you're a human being that can just stand there and not get hurt. You get paid twelve million dollars a year. So wonderful. They also have some guys they can cut camera seven million. They have some room that they can get to. But I feel like they're a team that one hundred percent needs to bring in a quarterback. Because if you get a guy like Ryan tannehill for. I don't know. Would you want to pay tannehill two years sixteen million? If you could get him for that. What you say sixteen total? Yeah. As an eight million a year. Yeah. If I'm a team that it doesn't have a solid starting quarterback. I'm in I'm in on that. And then I also I talked about this with Simmons this week. I think every team in the NFL should be trying to trade for Josh Rosen. Yeah. Why the hell not if he's available for a third round pick Peter King reported he's cheaper than pretty much every backup quarterback in the league on veteran Koch, and I agree with that. I also I don't think he's that good. I think he's going to be fine. I think he's impossible to evaluate what the situation was there last year. And even if you don't think he's going to be good. He's worth that price. When when Josh Rosen is thirty years old is he better than Ryan Tanna hilas now. Yes, okay. I believe that he is better not the same better. I think the chances are even that I think it's a fifty fifty proposition, and I would pay the money and pay the price tag of a third round pick to see that fifty fifty proposition through. That's what I would say. Okay. So you do you. I do anything for them. If you need an answer a quarterback if you're a team like the chargers, right? Why wouldn't you just roll the dice on it? You need a quarterback in two years. Yeah. I mean, honestly depends on their scouting it. Also, it also depends on if they think there's a second round pick or something or even a first-round pick that they like me I had a conversation with Daniel Jeremiah to combine. And I said, you know, so Dave Gettleman uses the phrase Kansas City motto, which is now been driven into the ground and in the ensuing week. But I said when you look at a team that has a veteran and might take that first round guy. Just give them a year or two who is identified aside from New York, obviously, dented, Pittsburgh and identified the chargers, and it took everything in my power not to say San Diego there. And and so I and I'm starting to think about it. And I could see maybe a I a late for found Picco into San Diego. But I could also I take your point which is that maybe it's easier to. Just trade for Josh Rosen and try to develop and see we have if if it's going to be a third round pick. I tend to think that if you get a couple of teams bidding in there. It goes to a second round pick. We'll say I would give up a second round pick for Josh Rosen, those Jewish correct? It depends on where it is in the second round. But I would give that up a guy you're gonna find the in the second round is not as good of a quarterback prospect is Josh Rosen. Would you Tara Taylor? That's a good question. I feel like he's going to end up being the backup somewhere. I, and I think a lot of teams will rightfully try to for his services. I think if you're Baltimore anymore. I was gonna say it's more. He's been in the building they really like them on. Then you also don't have to do much different with your offense with tyrod Taylor and Lamar Jackson, you can run similar stuff. So I think it makes a lot of sense on several different levels who's your number one free agent. We're just not talking about a good. That's a good question. I thought you were going to start with the we were talking too much about it. I was gonna say Levy built so talking about Josh Rosen all too much to. I think Anthony Barr is a really good player when he's right. And I feel like if it was the type of player we've seen in years past he could be an absolute steel for somebody even if you have to pay him top dollar. I think he's a twelve million dollar player when he's playing well, and he just is such a huge name. And he's but a cog on one of the best defense in the league for a couple years. And it seems like he's pretty far down this list for people. Yeah. Totally agree. You know who else is in the same bucket, and it's a health question, and I really like him, and he's mind here as far as not talking about don't put five games last year. But I still like him cagey, right Kidger writes a good player. I would take a flyer on K J, right? And the other guy it's mostly about health as I understand it. Daryl Williams from Carolina he had a really bad knee injury in training camp. He got hurt again. He's only had one years starter. But he was good in two thousand seventeen man. So if you're kind of trying to roll the dice, you have some money, and you want to just take a chance of pay premium that he could be that guy. He was it twenty seventeen. I think he could be really good for a team. Yep. I don't know. I think Landon Collins might be the guy we're talking too much about. I just because I feel like we've were now considering him in sort of top top top tier class. And I really do think that there are concerns about its coverage. Yeah. And it's top player that you want in the NFL right now. Right there. I decided he's really long. I really like Landon Collins. But I think our tendency it's well-earned to try to dunk on Dave Gettleman has now morphed into everything Davey element does is wrong. Well, the problem with the giants is that they're trying to shore up a lot of holes without a ton of money to do. So and trying to build around Ila manning the giants have spent. Yeah. Exactly. But that's kind of the problem is that they're trying to win now. And in order to do that they're overspending on a lot of players you look at the solar contract. Now, they're paying Kevin Zeitler. They still have a whole at right tackle they treated for Kevin Zeitler, and they could still be in the mix for deer Williams type. They just have so much. Any holes, and they're trying to solve it with money and not draft picks that because they use their second overall pick on running back if you're curious so that's the that's the issue that they're going to run out of money to certain point. Did they're all in on on Eli manning. I know it's so great. I think they'll draft somebody. But the idea that they display twenty nine if they're doing the Kansas City model they're going to run it back for. Yes. Nineteen it's great. You know, I manning I have just level to which ownership must love ally. Manning, I get up overstated I understand that they they he won two Super Bowls. That's very nice. But I had this limits and football we talked about this last year. It would just be a very tearful press conference to be very closely done it'll be out of here member. Anthony Davis said he's like as soon as I leave I'm gonna just going to give a very classy Instagram post. Yes. And that's why we all want is Instagram video, and you, you know, nice photo you from draft day. It's thanks to the memories. That's all we need, buddy. And then we're we're all set can bring in Ryan tannehill for a year, and they can tank I think that's all we got. But fancy opens next week. We will be back respond. To it as we have in years past. I'm sure that somebody will give out a terrible contractor offensive lineman wall, we're recording. And we'll get to respond in real time. Which is always fun. Wonderful wonderful. It's that time of the year. I actually listen to the ringer NFL show the ringer podcast network. And we'll talk to you soon.

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Fantasy Football Mock Draft 1.0 (Ep. 835)

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Fantasy Football Mock Draft 1.0 (Ep. 835)

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We just tweeted out a link Accu Emlyn podcast, or if you're already in the slack, channels psyched out sports gaming pack dot, com chance to hop in and draft with us. Live here Kramer Kramer. Any sort of we've already revealed. We've done two episodes of far previewing who we like in fantasy football. We did the quarterbacks issue and we've done the tight ends. Issue your favorite you've. Year your Fed Sean. Do we gotta do. Tight end I say Sean We. Can't do tight end. Tight end tight ends a great starting point, and if you have a great team, you need a great tight end. They could block. They can catch. They can do it all. We did quarterbacks. As the starting place would be a chapter in the biography. Right College years maybe. Josh L. I. Shocked the World Making Chesham. Predicting Josh Allen shocked the world by making him my number, one fantasy football quarterback then shocked the world by making Hunter Henry. Your number one fantasy football tight end. People accusing us of being hot. Take you. Sean really see that I was going through the red. It Post and these fucking loser s charger. Fans erling. I highly doubt he'll be top five crying. You're you're shaking monitor? It's all right I. Get your passion, we're. We're talking football. We're getting fired up. And perfect reason to be subscribed over a youtube dot com slash sports, gambling podcasts or twitch page twitch dot, TV slash sports gambling podcasts that you don't miss live random moments like this, and of course this week we got a big. Slate of Sims Thursday nights. We're GONNA be simulated, some more madden action, and then Saturday and Sunday. There are no band Sims on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. We're going to be doing the final four. The College Football Tournament, the final four games, or on Saturday then the championship game Sunday night, but before that of Course Army Navy, Aka a third place game, so which by the way I came out to the to the lab to the studio to check on the stadium availability as I thought it would be important for us to do authenticity here, not only. Can you play any possible ballgame? Army Navy. It by default knows you're playing the army navy game when it plays it at the link, so wow, Lincoln Financial Field Philadelphia Eagles. I had nothing to do with that. It's just going to happen. Dean Hoge the chat already calling for army to beat Navey Creamer of course. This podcast presented by my cookie dot A. G.. Where you can use Promo Code S. GP dramatic. It's big-time. I like it. You're doing live Ridge. You weren't sure you're going to remember. I will see and people in the chat I'm reminding people that you can participate in this episode I'm sure big time corporate mainstream media. They're not giving you opportunities to draft with Tim Matt Hasselbeck, are they? GonNa get our platinum gold package to hang out with the guys join. For Five Ninety, nine joyner Patriot, and then you get exclusive access to do live mock drafts, Kramer and green. No come on, we're all we're all in this together. Tank. Again, getting back to mybookie DOT AG Promo Code as she gets sweet deposit bonus player props already already up and. Yeah. It's GonNa. It's GonNa be fun. Ben Rothlisberger. Mr Tater chicken in He said it's the only stream. He can live draft with Ben Rothlisberger. Of course, that's Ryan. Kramer, Rothlisberger recently came out and at a Christian converts and. Admitted that he had his addiction so past tag. Only. Will that affect where he's drafted in this mock draft? We're about to find out Kramer, should we give? Well real quick I wanted to explain to people. We removed kickers. Because who gives a shit. We removed defense because who gives a shit quarterback, two running backs too wide receivers, tight end five bench spots. That's eleven rounds thirty seconds Max per pick. Yeah, all right so eleven rounds. The maximum around could take is six minutes. It's not going to take six minutes so. I predict this draft will be done in less than thirty minutes. If you want to join I'm just. It's a selling point. We're not going to be here all night. Sean and I both have things to do we. We sat down and he said. How can we make this? Go as quickly as possible. Well, shoot the kicker in the head. Shoot the. It's interesting. You say that we have things to do and yet. Yet, here we are doing a early edition mock draft, because when I've tried to explain to my wife, what a mock draft is I can't get halfway through explaining it before she starts mocking me like wait, so you're doing a practice for your pretend league where you pretend draft players. It's funny because I was actually one of the things. I was GONNA pitch to us that we do a mock mock draft episode. Anyway let's see what we What else we gotta get to before we start. You already touched on the College Football Tournament of course which I didn't hear. You mentioned anything about the heater Amman. Kramer was down eleven minutes now only down three units, and if you really want the the inside skinny on whatever's going on in the land of the SIM Gods I strongly suggest you head over to twitter. You follow at Kramer Centric, and then you hop over that profile page where you would see down three units to Sean Green. Hashtag Sim God parentheses on an eight unit heater. So for those keeping track at home ain't no. The last eight units wagered again. Sean I feel really good about this upcoming weekend Sean I believe. There's a chance that as we record this as we go live across the interwebs that the lines are already up I'm going to verify that they should be and there's even some future action over at my cookie dot ag Promo Code S. GP. Where you of course can play when it get paid. Kramer yeah, hit up. Those futures hit up. Those Games live in game wagering for the sins, which is always always superfund walk people through the mechanics real quick of the mock draft. Did you. I, think we've hit on everything. Right the position the thirty seconds. If you're watching this, you can see I have the settings up. It's thirty seconds P. P are substandard scoring four points for a touchdown point, perception, nothing fancy like one and a half points for your tight end, and then just simple quarterback, two running backs, wide receivers tight end. By bench. We include now no i. left the flex out on purpose. No flex nothing. No flex any last words Kramer, before we start this, do you have any? Are you coming to. Are you going to do the zero? B Strategy I know we're both fans of waiting on quarterback anti-death. I think part of the reason I now. I'm remembering why I left the flex part of the reason. I like no flex. Is it forces us to talk about all position groups and you can't go with a three or four. So I like to run twelve personnel I feel like to have the flex I can do too tight ends. In action as they can this guarantees we're going to be talking about the top probably sixty running backs and wide receivers so. What else what else that's, it reminds me my one, my biggest all time, home or draft of all time was. I think it was the two thousand fifteen or sixteen eagles where. It was chip Kelly lead. It was the year they got DeMarco Murray and drafted DeMarco Murray and Ryan Matthews on my fantasy team, so I was starting to eagles running backs. It was it was the year were Sam. Bradford notoriously went five for five in a meaningless preseason game against Green, Bay and I was buying into the hype although I, still stood by and said Sam. Bradford sucked I thought chip Kelly, and his system could be fantasy God's, but no, they're not and. Showing you I think you're selling yourself short. Because I feel like we were in a League together probably over ten years ago. Where you went, you went eagles four out of the first five rounds, I was I was a stringent opponent of only drafting eagles and beating Saint homer. I've moved slightly off that where I still lean homer, I still stay by my steadfast rule that I will never have a Dallas cowboy on any of my fantasy, football teams or in my defense lineups. Okay, have you ever see Sean t green? Fantasy lineup out there. That has a member of the Dallas cowboys in it. You know I've Been Kidnapped or had been hacked, and someone is drafting for me all right? Let me get your fucking. Shine box all right. We got. We got a couple of fans in here. A couple of contributors to the PODCAST. It's ready to go. Let's do this Kramer. We read into star. Let's get this mock draft star baby. randomized draft order. We got. We got a couple of I'M GONNA I'm GonNa give everyone a second because people are just flowing in all of a sudden. They know we're serious all right I'm going to do one last chat seriously last call, so we got jake pack went in. Their clutter bucks Thailand's aid and two to nine Josh forty-seven. Will the wagering Whiz? Of course. Will contribute to sports gambling podcast, tyler as well tyler awesome enough to do the help us out with all the brackets. And Jake? Helped out with some of the graphic, so you know it takes takes ability to raise a child, and it takes A. Village to figure out how to help out with our site. WHO's the child in this scenario? I think the child is the draft itself? You know everyone's coming together doing their part to help make this mock draft over reality. We're vamping here a little bit, but again. The juices are flowing Kramer the football. Juices are flowing. We're talking about real teams that are going to have real games coming up in the fall. I, I just. Feel like you're Jackson at Sean. Dundee level. Okay, we're ready to go. No one else is joining three two one. Let's start the draft I. Assume I have the ability to pause. This is going to be an absolute shit show. I got like fifteen things going on what has happened? Well, you gotta hit. Start Your car and then I think we'll be good to go. All right. All right we're in the draft. We have eight participants couple A. You know I'm sure we have a couple of i. don't know what you call them. Robots in there. Because we got, we got teams with no names it's it's you know it's part of the game all right? We got eleven seconds until we're going to start Sean. I have no idea how I pause or do anything, so we're going to. We're going to figure this out on the fly. Wow, I have the The twelfth pig to kick things off Kramer has the seventh. The, robot has the first pick Christian McCaffrey surprise off the board with the pick in the draft next sub. We got Aden on the clock number two spot I. Think he probably goes. SAQUON here. Maybe Alvin Kamara. What would you do, Kramer? You just go and Barclay there and did saquon Barkley I see no reason to not take saquon. Barkley Michael Thomas just got drafted and then Jake. Pack took Alvin Kamara Josh on clock at number five. Sean, you're doing a really good job with the play by play. I'M GONNA. Let You keep. Doing that goes Zeke that's disgusting. Act does have covid nineteen Dalvin Cook right after him a minute. On the clock. You're the commission. You gotta figure that I figured. Are we going to be talking about stuff I'll pause for seconds anything you want to recap here. Sean I. In my feels like everyone's going Chaki. Not Surprising of course that first round. You don't want to go crazy. You don't want to go so contrary and save. Your concern plays for later. Just kind go best available. I'm surprised we haven't seen another receiver and team three higher on Michael. Thomas than I am. I would not take Michael in the three spot, and this is a part I mean. This is honestly the part of the draft where it seems it. It seems like you just do what you want to do. Yes, and if I'm sitting here. I'm going to do the things that I typically do. which is I'm going to go after a wide receiver, so Mary's resumed the draft so I can actually make A. Pick. Four Kramer. The I thought you I. Do I. How do I frigging Jesus? Kermit, you're supposed to be the computer. What's going on? Well I'm logged in and it doesn't appear to want to. Do it over here. Do. You have to hit resume on the draft. I don't know I, don't know. It says mock draft starts in one second. Oh, it's not even started yet. That's why 'cause I paused it exactly there you go, make your pay cramming me. The debate here is because between some of the past catchers and I'm going to go back to the well. With a guy who I think under, you know devante atoms all right. I just I can't get enough of this guy at this point and the. Derrick Henry is just I can't do it like Yanko. Did Go Derrick Henry. I'm worried if I'm taking Derrick Henry this early, and clearly is the first round draft pick in the fantasy world. I'm worried about that volume. That volume is just going to catch up to them. We see it every year and four point p p. what really is ceiling? Tyler Grabs School Jones number nine that makes sense, but again had how many years left. Does Julio have of high production, but maybe maybe this is. He's in a dome. He's had some low touchdown years, but still pretty high fantasy output. Julio in Davante Adams. They're going to give you this tremendously high floor. Okay, and we have to get rid of will mormon. He drafted Mile Sanders number ten. That was my pick that was. Available at Ted at twelve, and then right after him. Joe Mixing his drafted. Kramer if you could pause for a second while I make my selection, God, damn it. Are you kidding me and like I've been telling you. Sean I think for the running back. episode you about to come in with hot taking Mile Sanders. He's gain steam gaining sick. The people have been listening to me. If I'm drafting, and if you look at my I mean I don't WanNa. Tease the running back episode, but hard for me to discern between Mile San like after. saquon Alvin Kamara Christian McCaffrey and probably Zeke Elliott. Miles I probably go miles sanders i. After that, so I think he's GonNa. Go Super High Sean. I apologize the IT's out. On pause the draft I made my decision Kramer. You gotTA. Wait now. We gotta do the resume. Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. Resume the draft so I can. I can make my decision. I'll give it to you even before I actually make the selection, and that is giving the Arizona. Cardinal De'andre Hopkin smart. They brought him in for a reason. He's an order batch of Russia. A bunch of passes. Yeah, he put up huge numbers with brock. Osweiler you forget how bad some of these some of those texts and teams were especially at the quarterback position so the fact that he's going to you know kind of a an offense. That maybe has a little bit momentum I. Don't get to picture Sean I do that's a great point, so I'm GonNa. Make my first one De'andre Hopkins now. It's a steak draft. It's coming right back to me. A lot of options here do I go running back. I go receiver again. Do I do I? Take an early bite at tight end. See Right here I think you have I love picking. Eleven I love picking twelve because I think you can walk away with a couple elite receivers if I were you I think there's a no brainer decision here. I'm going to take tyreek Hill Kansas. You just walked away with two of the top five receivers and the draft, and probably i. what six maybe but I think. All of those guys have tremendously high floors, tremendously high ceilings Leonard. fournette interesting. That's a nice. That's a nice. That's a robot pick if I ever saw one taking Leonard Fournette. High, he did pretty well. They hate Leonard. fournette jacking about. They're going to be playing from behind. He's going to be on the field a lot. Catching passes Joe Mixing and Leonard for now. This is the highest ceiling lowest floor combination fucking. Take Leonard Fournette in the second round. I agree I'm not taking them in the second round after him Mike Evans Goes Interesting Evans goes. Godwin God would right that right after him. Tyler walking away with Godwin Julio, he I know he's smart. He's a big time. God, Guy, dealing thing that scares me off about these taking these Tampa Bay pass catchers. This high is because there's just a lot of guys a lot of mouths to feed in that Tampa Bay, offense, including Ma boy, Robert gronkowski coming back. The chemistry with Brady he already has going on, so that's one thing. I'd be scared about Clutter Kelsey off the board Kelsey. He's Gone Kramer as you and I See. This is great I love where I'm at right now. Because I have an opportunity to grab one of the running backs, I'm a little. I'm Smitten Frost and. I'm just so worried. He's going to be able to get it done but God. He's an he's I. I think for me, and I'M GONNA take Ecuador here to keep the draft going Nick Chavez the guy. It's between those two guys so right after you Nick Chubb Go. Here's why. I'm not taking Chubb I ever Dream Hunt The every. Is that Kareem is going to be that same guy who's taking a lot of touches away Austin heckler. I don't know how much competition Justin Jackson, or whoever else they bring in is going to give. I'm on the same page Kareem Hunt. I think could be a steel. There's a third guy I was looking at. It wasn't Kenyan drake, but there's another guy in that tier for me. The conventional wisdom will tell you nick job. Kenyan, drake now off the board and Yeah I I may even go i. feel like one of these next two picks I probably have to get a running back but I I may just wait. Running backs are jumping at me after Kenyan drake. Aaron Jones Gone Josh Jacobs Gone, and that's the end of the tier for me. Aaron Jones and Nick Chub are like the more conventional wisdom, guys who are going earlier on most mocks Josh Jacobs and Austin actor to me or the guys who are. are going to have a ton of opportunity to excel and a three down system and Kenyan drake. Guy I think he busts out. He just got paid. Be careful. Wow! Edwards Hilaire goes off the board at the end of the second round. That's insane. What if you look at that team? Like no bullshit you cut, you're not angry if you're walking away with Christian McCaffrey the potential starting running back for the Kansas City chiefs Lamar, Jackson, no and and Margot's number one overall in the third round, but Edwards Hilar- gone at the end of the second round. Is that where he's normally being drafted? That feels super high. Thank you see this running back early season. Cheat like Damian. Williams was going end of first round last year Jerick. McKinnon for the forty niners. Couple years back was going super high. It's at this point in the summer. You're drafting early for for for equity shares. Running back like that's what you're going Gallaudet off. The board now mahomes off board so seen a little bit of a run on quarterbacks. Juju off the board as well Allen. Robinson, who wow, we'll get to the receiver podcast, but certainly you could make a great case especially if they gave rid of Mitch Trubisky. Robinson is a guy that nick foles with love throwing the ball to then Robert Woods. Who I want! No share of this rams offense this year. Kramer Europe. You're upright now. What do you do here? In the third round? Well I think there's an opportunity here for me to maybe maybe draft a little bit with the old heart. But. Someone's got some humble pie. You're welcome back on the squad at third round. Are you kidding me? The upside is there at this point in the summer unless there's a reason that comes up for me to not take him. Last year was the worst year he had by mile period. Certainly you would expect them to figure out does have a ton of athleticism? Adam feel got your next. But certainly with no digs there that that's that's a volume play. Maybe he's competing with Jefferson, but he would be. He seems like the clear. Number one pass Catcher, and at this point clutter buck. We got up. We got them. Maybe wonder are there are enough opportunities being given in this organization? If you know what I mean to white guys in the first three rounds of a fantasy. Ohio city come on, and tyler goes running back here laying. They're accepting. Melvin Gordon Todd Gurley off the board again. Want nothing to do with him. Jay more next to go, and now it's up to me Kramer by the way love the DJ more pick I know you have plenty of time you pause. For a second. Because I know one of your picks. I know for a fact who you're taking with one of your pets well. Normally wouldn't go. Now wouldn't normally go tight end this high, but Zach just fell into my lap. I have tyreek I have the android Hopkins. I gotta go I gotTa go Zakar. But, then what do I do for the next one DO I. I'm GONNA hit resume. We have a thirty second buffer. That's fine. Zakar, it's for the first one I think. I think there's plenty of guys. This is the part where. As per usual. I Love I. Love Me Kina now, and maybe not as high on them this year. Because of that Hunter Henry Situation, but there there are a lot of opportunities I. You know I. Think I found I'm Kramer at this age in the draft. Go Ahead I. Think I'm going to go Portland Sutton. Round. Pick I, love that not too early. I love that collection of. We got hurts. Who Again? I would probably advise waiting on. Titan but Zach Ertz, falls in your lap. You got to grab him and now no running backs yet. This is you gotTA strike right? You got together. Maybe reach ruin here now I'm a Portland Sutton I'll figure out the running backs like Cortlandt Sutton I like the chances of Denver's offense fixings out starting in the wind with the format I like that. Well, wait oh, because flex their right, Sean. This is why it's way too early. It's way too early, but again I know I wanNA play matchups with my receivers for the for the real season. Amari Cooper goes off the board AJ. Brown goes off the board wow. I know about your brand I I really liked him, but can that Tennessee titans offense do that again? You're just relying a lot on a guy who. You know his first name is Ryan, which makes them pretty awesome, but he's also never done anything of substance now. Yes, you could say. Adam Gates was the problem, but. And boom one of the guys I was targeting Chris Carson. Pick there I mean when he's healthy. He's going to be a high output per game guy. I think the problem with him as he seems to struggle to stay healthy. But it's an absolute volume. Play Tyler Murray we talk? We're GONNA. See the guys. Kyle hype talk. I mean you're already getting some cuyler Murray. OARS MVP candidate, and certainly you can easily talk yourself into a Murray. The CALAMARI goes off and has a great season. Get you the rushing yards rookie of the year. I think my next couple rounds I gotta go back to back running back. Kramer you're on the clock. What do you do here? I mean this is a volume. Play I know there's nothing sexy about Lebanon Bell Yeah and maybe there's a lot. There's a lot of time between now and when they play football coach does him, but this offense could be really good this year I think the jets are a team that if you're looking at fantasy football, you got circle because there's opportunity now. The debate for me internally there at that point is between a couple. Guys not been taken yet, so I'm going away because I might swing on the way back. for for some depth, but. You know. Yes! I'm remembering what Levy on bell wants was, but he's still a really exceptional pass catcher. In Sam darnold showed last year. What people are excited about? They have a little bit of talent on that field. I think the jets are going to be a high output offense this year, so after you drafted Levian Cooper Cup off the board. Kevin Ridley off the board. Digs Stefan digs off the board David. Johnson again. That's a great. That's a classic robot pick. no-one taken David Johnson in the fourth round. You're you're a maniac James Connor off the board mark. Andrews again. The classic robot pick feels like a reach their. This high for a tight end considering, we're calcium, kittle went i. don't think so I. Don't think so, he and then. Allen is off the board as well so Mr Mr Taylor also pointing out that Sam. darnold showed us how to get mono as an adult last year as well great point. Already ahead of the game already beating the COVID nineteen crisis by getting him to get into disease missing a few weeks devante Parker now. The the board Terry maclaurin, who really could have himself a year, and especially if you're league that that rewards big plays. He certainly could be could be a fun. Start in draftkings tyler, Lockett now if the Board Sean One of the the Guy I was looking at was James, Connor on that Pittsburgh team, because you know lot of injuries, a lot of weird things where you can kind of just throughout the season last year James Connor was a first round. Pick going into last year, so if the opportunities there I think to me him in love, Eon bell very similar in that they're kind of a post type guy they were. They went really high last year. Things didn't go so well. They fell too far now. The pendulum swung to the point where there's value. WHO's Josh? Josh is on the clock. He Goes Darren. Wa, Dash Rain Rain Is. He signed yet. Gusting signed his Franchise Tag Darren Waller went and then Dakota Prescott the rainman just got picked up before UK. You picture, Kramer, what are you doing? You're on the clock. Give me some more depth there with Devon Single Terry. We saw we saw what the hype was about last year Sean. You want to talk about a guy. I want some shares of this year. I want you know I'm high on the bills. We both are high on Josh Allen I think this team I love. The the digs pick I think single. Terry is going to be a big part of that offense. I know they draft Zach Moss that's fine, I still like him here. At this point, the guy so that's the guy I was debating Jonathan Taylor. That's a risk. You got. Marlin MAC competing for carries in Indianapolis. Examining in a veteran quarterback Philip rivers to throw the. And, the other guys in this range to be are a bit like there's inherent risk with them I. Already. I got a running back in my sights. Know I'm not gonNA tip my hand. Aj Green just wants Mike. That's an interesting dice roll, tyler, be wanting the draft so far rumor bus candidate, but certainly at the at the end of the fifth here. I feel like that's a pretty good snag de came metcalf now gone a Russell Wilson gone I'm on the clock, Gimme marking up. The Ravens love running the ball this again. This is the volume play and to keep things going with volume strategy WANNA. Give Me Rahim. Oh. Oh, he's just him and Ingram I feel like our two guys. They're in offenses that love running the ball that have quarterback that rely on the play action. Why did they rely on the? Because it works, why does it work because they run the ball and they run the ball well, so gimme Gimme a exposure, those guys. And you know tile. Tyler is employed really awesome. which is just just go value, but beget those running backs before they run up try and the AJ. Green things interesting this year because. You know he's getting a quarterback that I think. Most of us are pretty excited about, and their defense still sucks, and their defense still sucks. Their this could be. This could be a year. Because Jay Green is not done playing football. T. Y.. Hilton goes after most Evan Ingram off the board I. Don't know second giant drafted David Montgomery again this thing so it's interesting. Because what's what's the? What's the Kerry? What's the share is to recode GONNA pass catching out of the backfield. Honestly, he didn't pass the eye test last year I. Didn't see a guy that was exciting DJ Shark. He's a guy would. I would like to have on there because he he seems to have legit chemistry with garment you out in Jacksonville. An perfect this is perfect for me I. Let them Slip Long Enough. My number, one tight end Hunter Henry, I get them as the six seven tight end John Kramer you probably I mean you could. Probably you could even let him go a little bit longer. I think. Here's the thing though Sean I want to get stuck with jared cook. He's good in video games. You know I didn't WanNA. Get stuck with Rob Gronkowski I just tyler higby. That's not exciting now. Now, we got. We Got Brown on the Ravens out the Board Jarvis Landry off the board right after you're. Right after your pick I, don't have a quarterback yet. I don't have a and four. How you don't have a quarterback because you're smart there you go, Kramer appreciate that Josh. Allen is off the board. There goes my number. One quarterback Deebo Samuel at the board to Shawn Watson off the Board Tyler Boyd off the board. Michael Gallup. Gallup's interesting one. There's a Lotta Maoz feed there, but to cover gal like WHO's game planning for Gallup in that offense. You've CD Lamb Amari. Cooper. You've Zeke Elliott you've Dakota. Rain Prescott and you have Blake Jar. Who everyone is GonNa be very excited about by the time the season starts. No one is going to be looking at Michael Gallup. I kind of like him. I like him especially in Best League we're. Talking about CD lamb coming in, but again these rookies will probably be slow slow to get things going Gallup, could be a PR machine. No Co Beasley past couple of years there, so eshelman off the board. He's always he's just like a PR workhorse, and who knows what they're gonna be doing at quarterback in new, England safe play. There will fuller off the. The board again? Boom Bust, definitely a best ball guy camakers off the board. Oh Arvin Jones off the board. What do you think about the camakers? Pick I mean the rams they've they've done it before with running backs, but if they have other guys. Yeah, it's it's. It's scary. Brandin cooks off the Board Andrea Swift still on the board he's he's A. Rookie running back for the lines. That's kind of interesting because you know. I'm on the clock. You are in the cloud. What are you doing here? I'm sorry I'm too busy doing a lot of other things well, if you look at my squad and balanced right I got to two running backs like a too wide receivers. I got my tight end so now for me. It's all about depth and I think what what really tells the story for me and and I'm obviously. I'm going to grab one more. I think the smart move here the burden. Is Grab another running back. There are plenty more receivers in my opinion, not enough guys who kind of pop off the tier like the running backs, too, so for me now, if i WanNa, have some fun right now. I strongly intrigued by a guy like Darius. GEISS I'M GONNA go off the reservation a little bit because I. Feel like my man's being disrespected. Let me re restart the draft. Real. Quick because I think there's a couple of guys down here. That are in timeshare situations, but have shown they can perform an unlike the guy. I'm not gonNA take. We've seen Philip Lindsay. Do it before and I. I just don't like I understand that Melvin Gordon Mike it more of the carries, but I don't think you get five round four rounds later. More carries and Opportunities Philip Lindsay is going to be involved at a minimum in the passing game. And he's shown that this guy is a baller so for me to be able to grab him in the seventh round as my fourth running back I love the depth I've created. Philip e baby. Isn't that crazy? How lady like I sometimes? I don't get the week. So much these rookies where it's like student proposal. Yeah, and he's not a huge threat catching the ball out of the Backfield I think people probably scared of Melvin Gordon coming in there and vulture in some touchdowns or bolstering some some. Some targets. They're Kayce now off the board. And now he just Kareem, Hunt. Who was a guy I, was kind of I to possibly take there. And, then we ll Jerry Judy and Henry Rugs Alabama rookies. Go off the board back to back Kramer. I'm up what do I do here do i. go running back to go. Receiver I got I. Don't really need anything. I got. Ingram Moser and I got tyreek hill the Andrea Hopkins End Zakar, so I feel I'm in a pretty good spot here. I kind of can do anything that I wanted to. I guess I should probably drafted another running back, but. It crazy to go the Andrea Swift here Kramer. Pause before you got auto drafted. Thank! See for me, I would have I. I'm hoping he comes back, but yeah I mean. It's the last of a guy. You get a full blown car. Share from I. Mean I know carry on Johnson's there, but swift's going to be involved. They didn't draft them to play them. Yeah, and it just feels like a classic. Patricia move right like Trot. Draft stood running back pound the rock ball control. I mean honestly if I'm you, I would take. I would use this opportunity to take two more running backs because you waited on them, you WanNa get more of them so I would probably. Look at whatever your rankings have for the next couple running backs, and maybe maybe go with a volume guy, and maybe PR guy. You know like this is the time to do that well, I did It's official. I took De'andre Swift, and you mentioned PR guy. He's the next guy that they recommend kind of fell in my lap, but makes a lot of sense, GimMe James Wife. And if you have a crappy quarterback, where do you do you call a bunch of screens Heathrow? The runningback you create plays that way and who knows Sony Michelle still seems Kinda like in the dog has over new, England, I'll take James White all day in the eighth round. Are you kidding me right? After I got drafted Tyler higby off the board Sony Michelle so about the same time as James White, and just to point that out like I think I think James White is someone I like even more in the best ball format because when he he's going to have some big games. You might not want to have to deal with knowing when. But also shipman. When's the last time New England had a quarterback that wasn't like super willing to throw it Downfield I. Guess we'll wait and see but men. Because on the flip side, it was a trust thing, right? Brady just trusted James White he really on the clock again? After Sony Michelle not goes crushing Kirk goes and Kramer. You're back on the clock. Yeah so for me I'm. GonNa stab at one more one more running back. It's a little early, but I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. Take Away your handcuff and give me JK Dobbins. Look again I think I. Think this is a kid. Is GonNA get involved? Mark Ingram's getting up there in age. They're going to run the ball a lot, so I think two running backs indefinitely be productive and again I'm trying to get some depth here at you can see now I've I've really loaded up some night? Nice depth. Austin Love Eon Bell Devon Devon Single Terry to go with Philip. Lindsay JK Dobbin so I. I wanted to have some rookie love I got it. Jared Cook Cook comes off the board next. Do you. Do you start considering quarterback here Kramer? We're at the end of the eighth round, looking into the ninth around US starting to circle, some quarterback, last round and God it Josh Forty Seven took Carson Wentz. See I would. have waited or the audios bro. I don't know what people are talking about. Hopefully audio kicks back in for the live stream. It's their Cohen is now off the board after after winds, GRONK is off the board as well. Interesting to see people. Fill in holes right now, looking for looking for when you're trying to fill a whole, Gronk is the guy you draft on your team to fill a whole. Wow, the the bottom the first by Kerryon Johnson keyshawn. Von I like both those picks Kerryon. Johnson again. We talked about this. These timeshare guys someone's GonNa have value, yeah, and the Ninja all takes an injury and they shoot up three or four. I mean I don't want to grab Murli obviously, but eight nine around that makes sense. Sterling Shepard off the poor Jordan Howard. He could be sneaky and Miami injury. Risks are always a concern with Jordan Howard but rookie quarterback coming in and I think he carries a decent chunk load. It could be a goal line guy, so not not a bad poll there in the ninth round, congratulations robot. Jake tackle and takes my number one tight end mike a Seki. Who clearly I went off my own rankings by taking Zach Ertz ahead of them, but had an eagle on the team and. urged just kind of fell into my lap. Kitten Seki in the ninth round Genn, and maybe that's what I factored in by making him I quote. Unquote number one. Ronald Jones off the board? natcher WHA- I. Don't know. I'm just so mad at CNN mad. Nettie annoys me Marlin Nov off the Board Kramer. What are you doing here now? Hold on, you're on. The class screwed up the streams berry go. God so much to do here. I actually don't mind the MARLINS MAC or Ten seconds let me get my guy I. don't mind either Pick Ronald Jones. Moral Mac. Because as we pointed out, they could be fulltime guys. I'm going Darius Lane. This is ridiculous. Ninth around Danny. dimes loves this guy. I don't know if there is a you know. Yes, Golden Tate is there. Yes, thrilling shepherd there, but when we saw when when the he needed to make a play last year. Who did you throw to dairy slate areas? Then, of course, the defense is horrible there from behind a lot by the way a rookie last year, not a lot of talk about that. Just saying people don't mention days as a rookie. No, no dairy slate Oh. Okay. You don't often see wide receiver step in and in have that kind of impact early on I'm just pointing that out as an undrafted Ga Leeann rally is I mean Damien Williams love it what he had three touchdowns in the super, bowl or Or maybe it was too, and almost had that third, and you're getting them in the late night thrasher, they drafted that running back, but who knows before he takes over the carries John a brown taken out of buffalo of that pick. We'll more takes alshon Jeffery I. I don't know what you're seeing there. He's not going to be playing the first six games and. After that it's it's going to be a crapshoot curve if you don't mind pausing real quick I'm on the clock Rashard Penny. Just got drafted. What do I do here I have a decent feeling pretty good about my roster, Marketing Muhima, cer- tyreek Hill the Andrew Hopkins Zakar Nice Little Bench go with Portland Sutton deandra James Wight Sean. Rishaad penny just went to talk about post post post type guy, who, at some point. He's got to do something right. We loved him in college. It at San Diego State. I've been waiting for him to blow up. This is going to be the I'm confident. This is going to be the year you know you gonNA. Take and maybe it's concerning because a lot of mouths to feed in New Orleans, but GimMe. GimMe Emmanuel Sanders I mean. This late late ninth round Emmanuel Sanders that feels like a pretty good value. Kramer Right I love it. Yeah, I didn't hit. Resume all right. We can talk more about Emmanuel Sanders we saw I was doing. In! In mayhem, but I think that's a great option for drew brees. He. He's good with yards after the catch. I think you'll get you some touchdowns. Honestly, my take on Emmanuel Sanders is that he's a very professional wide receiver and you saw how quickly he was able to make an impact. I think with with drew brees like that's. That's the exact kind of guy. He needs someone who's going to be exactly where he. Veteran and I think you know all this talk of trae on Smith Drako on Smith, will Emmanuel Sanders going to be that guy and I think he can have a massive year. Yeah, Love Emmanuel Sanders there I'm basing that on the fact that James is going to take over the job. Rounds left Shawn. You gotTA quarterbacks common. quarterbacks coming on I'll take a quick look at the quarterback because I have A. What do I do here? Do I take a quarterback? All right, fuck it. I'M GONNA. GimMe Gimme a thirty second delay Real Quick Kramer. Mike I'm going back and forth here to. Talk Shit About Sean Right now he's that guy time time outs and the guy had a snake back to back here I. Only I only plan for the one pick all right. I'm ready to go Kramer. Are You yes? I'm going to take a guy that everyone is. Everyone is probably going to give me a bunch of shit put. This is this is the time in the draft where he can take some shots where you can, you can go out on a limb that maybe they're going to. Have a nice can have jalen hers or Maybe maybe they're gonNA make some plays in the return game. You'RE GONNA. Stall so much. You need no time outs now. I know exactly who I'M GONNA draft. I got him loaded up Jalen Raygor. Give it to you may. God love the lake grab there by myself. To Sean. Jackson even gets taken you. That's a good point. I liked the pick. Though you're a homer. You Josh forty-seven apologize in the chat room for partaking went breeze gone. Awfully, late, he was a quarterback. Oh, I was thinking of taking, but I've made fun of him so much I don't think I can take. I mean as someone who doesn't as far as two people who don't see color like ourselves. We don't even hear color. No, we. How can we possibly take your tyler lands just now? He's just flexing. So drew brees out the board. True locked coming in who is a guy that we were both made a tap ten fantasy football quarterback. This is ridiculous Austin Hooper off the board. How are you going to let me get Aaron Rodgers and the ten? Okay, Aaron Rodgers now. I have the stack Davante Adams. Aaron. What come on? I get it. He's on a running team. He's still Aaron Rodgers right. He likes to still. Ask and his teammates still like to catch. Hopefully what am I do? quarterback is the last position. quarterback slot house a slot. It's treated me well any because I I have my pick of the litter here of like second rate quarterbacks. You could really go anyway after Rogers. Tevin Coleman Goes Justin Jefferson the rookie a Minnesota. He's off the. Dakota Prescott fi six rounds ahead of Aaron Rodgers Henderson for the rams running back. He's off the board. Yeah, it's crazy I mean Stafford's on the Board Danny Don Baker Mayfield Ben Rothlisberger Tanna L. Even. Even Kirk. Cousins, like. Philip rivers like you. You can just stream these guys week after week after week, and put yourself in a pretty good position and Baker I think he's another guy. Going key went way too early last year, and now he's back to going probably too late. Yeah, like I I. I, I like drew lock as much as the next guy I. Don't know if I'm taking him in front of those two guys, but but there is opportunity there are like I. Like it Hayden Hearse. That's a good one. Atlanta Matt Ryan Lakes the tight end. He's he's a download. That's what they call it down there in Atlanta. Being on the down low. He likes to tell you the Titan a lot. Sammy Watkins, now before Tony Pollard are boy TJ hawk. Tony Pollard Zeke is going to just have forever. S. And Tony Pollard looked really good in relief of a Zeke last year, so interesting pick there and kind of a Celia and I'm gonNA. I'm GONNA finish up just with a second tight end. Just so I can talk about it because this is a guy if you're not taking a tight end until late. I know we don't want to flex I know I wouldn't wouldn't recommend a backup tight end toward typically, but Jack Doyle is back to not having Eric Brown there I know Burton's there whatever Blah Blah Blah. Don't Care Jack Doyle's guy. He's perfect for Philip rivers and in a dome. Right Matt Ryan now off the Board. Would I highlight? There is I could have not taken hunter, Henry, with my six round pick taken taking a wide receiver, taken a running back, and totally fine with Jack Doyle this late, although I think Hunter Henry has top tight end potential jo borough goes Bouchard Perryman who's A. Sneaky Guy. Smith MR relevant the last pick of the draft. You call it out. Miss her irrelevant. Give me Mr. Elven. Himself Tom Brady Law. fucking wheel man I still I'm not sold. Seventy seven out of one hundred, and the whole world can see. I got embarrassing. I got an eighty four be. Kramer, can we? Do we can we see the whole weekend? Let me figure out how to do this. We can. We can show people who got the the best rankings according to this completely arbitrary bullshit. Plus Kramer. That's not bad. We WanNa see we WANNA. See the draft analysis. What can people see right now? I gotTA show a different window think. What do we projected standings? People are projected. Kramer while you're getting that up perfect time. Chat out our partners as per head. That's right. You ever think about starting your own sportsbook. As per head can help you out. Pretty simple to go to ace for head dot com slash as GP US our link. You can get up to six weeks free. That's right six weeks free. The best sports book software around. 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Mailbag and Fantasy Cops! (10/10 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Fantasy Football Today Podcast

46:44 min | 10 months ago

Mailbag and Fantasy Cops! (10/10 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS sports. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie Heath Ben. What's up everybody happy Saturday. Hope you're enjoying your weekend and welcome to our mailbag edition of fantasy football today your emails at fantasy football, CBS, Dot Com, and your questions via apple podcasts Adam and frank here I'm Outta. With Frank Staffel ready for another mailbag. What's up frank? What's up Adam pretty excited. The weekend is here and it's my first time doing a podcast with Jamie. Friend of the program Jamie Eisenberg is here Jamie. Welcome. Great to have you on. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. This has been a dream of mine to do a show with you. Frank. We can just get rid of Adam. It'd be great. Cool Man, I'm calling the fantasy cops on you. The cops are coming later on in the show to settle your league disputes shady stuff going on in leagues. You know one thing I got an email from somebody that was like a trade went down the commissioner was going to back it out, and then the guy was like I've quit the League and drop all my players that is like the lamest thing and I, hear that enough in fantasy whereas. Like please, don't be that guy or that girl can I a question if you're ever in a legal, you're the commissioner or player and the Guy said I'm GonNa quit my league and drop all my what do you think that the rest of the evening to do oh, we get all of your players. Now. Thank you like it's to put the players back on the roster and they'll just lock the roster and just played out that way I mean. It's just a stupid thing probably. Well, what was that what you would do because what happens when that player that managers team comes up in the schedule? You the commissioner to a lot of for. Fair sets of you get like a pretty easy win. Maybe not maybe you've surely WANNA lose to that team. Let's go through some news and notes a New York jet tested positive. So this Friday afternoon, I'm not going to give you Cova News. You know so much more by the time you listen to this, but I like started a jets player the positive, but I'm not going to give you Cova News. Well, the thing is Jamie. When you're, you're just teach you a little bit of hosting lesson when you're a bad host, you read things and then you realize I should not have read that. So hopefully, you don't run into that problem but I did so yeah, it doesn't really make sense for me to go through that but a jet did test positive. Now we have three games that were a little concerned about Tyron Smith is out for the season frankly think that matters for the cowboys. I. Not Really I mean they're offensive line hasn't been great this season regardless of dealt with a lot of injuries but. Ultimately there. Look there's probably still gonNA wind up in a lot of shootouts. I don't think it matters all that much. Honestly the biggest thing for the cowboys is getting late and vanderbilt back. Back to the team that's when things will turn around. Okay Alshon show Jeffrey out this week with an illness there at Pittsburgh Viva broke his leg on Thursday night. Terrific. Terrific runs stuffer. Still Bucks are gonNA. Have a good run defense guys that are I don't know if it's going to be elite. They've got pieces there, but that's that's a big deal and disappointing to say. And Steven Sims is on for Washington, and really I don't have a lot of news for you here. It's a little bit earlier than when we typically record. So maybe there's some headlines that might come out during the show and we want me you don't make sense practice. You know he was always GonNa play Lamar Jackson was always gonNA play Levinsky Schmaltz going to play. So that's good. I very good. Price Could Chenault. Frank, you said if the lineup yet. I have kind of tinkered a little bit but man start all Texans and Jaguars. Try and get as many of those players as you possibly can. You're right? Chenault is super cheap and he's like forty five, hundred, hundred kings. Yeah. Okay. Let's go to some apple podcasts questions. This is from Alf. Frankie familiar with. Yeah I think we talked about this. Okay. That's right. You're right. You're right yeah. Alien license another shrager little bit. Yeah I. Yeah. I have had some shrager qualities. Sure. Shrager risk I think shrager did something on twitter on Thursday night that I just that Jamie does all the time that I just still think you should do and that's using Jif from a show or a movie that you you've never seen. And he did that with fresh Prince Wise said Carlton Davis. Household name he threw Carlton out there and I was like you've never seen. It have you and he said just clips he's never seen fresh prince and sixteen years old give them a break. I mean, I live under a rock and I'm I'm the worst person that I know in terms of pop culture but I know he's young but no fresh prince. Like a top three Sitcom for me Oh. Wow. Gosh. Good three miles gaskin or dearness Johnson is the question for alien life. Form. I'M GONNA, go with miles gas and it's a really tough match, but he's just pointing. So many snaps and seeing a lot of touches. Lot of targets to so and so we kind of know what your Johnson is. I will with miles asking. Have to unless we find out that. He's in practice today unless we find out that Kareem Hunt that groin injury was a problem you got to play the lead running back for the dolphins as opposed to the second guy for the browns. One thing Adam, that we're going to find out is who is the second pass Catcher in backup For. CLEVELAND. is going to be during the Johnson or will it be Dontrelle Hillier? Big Role. From jazzy, made it Dante Johnson or AJ Brown if they play. I'll take the Andre Johnson. I'll go with AJ Brown I. DO think it's pretty close but. Notre Davis whites a little bit banged up. He's probably going to play if that game happens but the bills defense hasn't been as good this year. So I go they debrum. From beard. I have prater on a by who the hell should I pick up. Kicker discussion young is back young. Wake who young Waco Yeah. I think. I. Go that way You look at him. You can look at Jason Myers. The Vikings were terrible against kickers you can look for blanket. He's been exceptional. Drought Prater. Picked up Joey sly, he's indoors against the Falcons this week. Go all aboard the blankenship. But shoot Blankenstein Halloween month. Did, you like my joke start if today I love all your Tom Brady jokes I've trying to work Tom Brady jokes in today's show. I can't really think of anything Frank said welcome to Thursday's FFA wait a minute. Tom Brady's calendar. Oh. That was just insane man it was oh gosh. Embarrassed next question is from iceman two, four, seven, but Tom Brady. Thinks is from iceman two, four six. To wide receiver non PR league. I thought that was so funny guys. Dj Cooper Cup Terry maclaurin bench one of them the day more Kubrick up maclaurin who benching. I. Think you have to bench DJ more. It's been a very disappointing season for him but the way that those other two are playing I'm not as worried about maclaurin Nanda was on the twitch stream on Thursday with us and he was a little bit more worried. I'm not as worried I think that they're just GONNA continue to force feed maclaurin I will bench DJ unfortunately. Okay Jamie you still there. I agree I think DJ. Moore's unfortunately the last May now, I wasn't asking about that I was. Seeing if you were there because I thought my joke was so funny. I, was just curious. Why didn't laugh? From. Josh Mo-. Wide receivers between. Dj More deontay Johnson Flexes Between James Robinson and DJ Shark so more deontay Johnson and then James Robinson or DJ Chuck. I'd go with more than the Jaguar. I would go with Moore and James Robinson I. I love everybody in that game but I think when it's really close, I tend to lean with the running back. Jamie Robinson. Sorry, delayed In that one out from fenny Feni six Oh eight but Tom Brady. Thinks it's funny sick never mind flex wide receiver options I don't know how many he needs Hollywood Brown t higgins the viscous Chenault. WHO's your favorite? They're like rank them. I would go. To hold on I understand what he needs. Pick to pick one wide receiver in one flex from these five. Hollywood round. T Higgins viscous. Justin Jackson in Dalton shots. I would go with the Hollywood br sorry. Jimmy I would go with Hollywood Brown and. LEVESQUE's Chenault. I would go with Hollywood Brown and Dalton shots. Jimmy GRANDPA twelve team Pr Daryl Henderson Levy on Bell. Golden Tate Chenault Renfro. Pick to Henderson. Love Eon Bell. Bell but just hope that game happens. Yeah. Golden Tate viscous ALTANTA RENFRO pick two. Hundred Zero I agree. And hurts, but you're right. Here's a name that I really by the way. Did you take out of your? Suggestions, today. No I. Didn't. They just forgot to put him in. Well, it makes sense games by going to get moved. Right. Yeah. Because as I was GONNA ask you about. So I was like Oh yeah Evan Ingram. Sure. Oh, yeah. Oh you're right. We were doing the show I originally had levy on bell was goodbye. That game is on Sunday. You look at Le Eon Bell. Then you look at the running backs or less expensive than Levian bell and most of them are in a in a shared backfield or their backups. They're like the rams guys. Let me bell might be the cheapest feature back. If he's I don't know if he will be this week but I think it's a good I think he's a decent by. Okay. This is from Yeah I. Don't know that I should read this one. I'm GonNa read on a two inch. Titan. Probably. Should I read that or anything go? Tom Brady thinks one in. WHO GETS THE START? Greg even or Mo Alley Cox Olsen Iran Amoah Laycock's. I kinda like E.. Brin. Matchup yes. Hebron is the answer. Okay. Of Season rankings or questions from Jeff Franscisco Austin in the tenth or Clyde Edwards either in the second round in a keep relief, you like better. I think you have to take the round value with accurate. They signed to a contract extension. He should still be yeah. Heavily involved moving forward I would imagine hopefully. I. Hope You don't have to make the decision today, which would be really weird. From Samson Samsonite, that's funny. One four to three. Grey the trade give up Chris Chris Carson and get Patrick Mahomes I have Kareem Hunt James Robinson Levy on Bell Philip Lindsay and Darryl Henderson. I have reason Matt Ryan Give Up Chris Carson. Get mahomes. I like it. I don't love it. I prefer to keep the running back depth and kind of just play the matches with quarterbacks. AGASSI MINUS? John in the lone star state grade the trade non PR give up Melvin Gordon. Damian, Harris and Jamison crowder. Melvin Gordon Damian Harris. Jamison crowder get de'andre Hopkins and Malcolm Brown. Be, solid it is a non league. So Gordon Harris crowder for Hopkins and Malcolm headed for a timeshare game Lindsay's back. I'm excited about Damian Harris but he's a patriots running back to you know how that is going to go. And then it was the third guy. Jamison crowder. He's not great in non ptr anyway. Yeah. All right. From Logan are great. The trade give Dak Prescott and Kelley get Jonathan Taylor. See I would want to know who your quarterback is if you trade away Dak Prescott. So meet a little bit more context there but yeah, it's fine. See from. Fools Karma Gray the trade. Derek Oh he's got. He's got Derrick Henry James. Conor miles gaskin de'andre swift and keyshawn VAUGHN Henry Connor Gaskin swift in want give up. Mike Davis, to get Austin. Yeah I guess right like. I. Think you should try and Trade Davis. Four something in the meantime but and this is a move that you're looking towards the. Fantasy playoffs, and hopefully, echlert could be like a flex player for you at that point. So. It's fine. It's a B minus I just traded Mike Davis and. Justin Jefferson for devante. Adams. For a team that's one in three that just lost nic Chow Adams needed to win needed to get something this week and so desperate that's not earlier. You gotta look at scenarios like this when you're playing the managers is stuck and could at least a one week. Win and Mike Davis gives them a much better opportunity to do that, and so you know you should be trying right now to trade for Christian McCaffrey to trade for Julio Jones Trade for Michael Thomas before he plays you know and he doesn't play another week of him not being out there. So those are the type of guys try to acquire now especially if you have the depth to do so. By the. Trades right. Can we rename them bomber traits? Because one of our producers that is the about say Andrew bomber one of our producers like I'll even have them on the show. He offers the worst trades I've ever seen. He offered me cold Beasley and Robert Tanya for Chris Godwin And that's that's the best and then he's offered Dave trades are even worse than that and I see the trades because I'm on Davis share I, don't really share team and on the team with Dave whatever but I see the trades I'm just awful. So these are bomber trades from now on. These are not as trades and. I will do everything I can ashamed Andrew, bomber on the show will have to have them on and yell at him I. Think. All right. Let's get back to the apple podcast questions. Got Your emails are another one he made a trade offer to another one of our producers that they shared with me and then. He's he bombers replied to that was empty. Guys ever seen the art of Art of the deal Oh yeah. I said you're deals or paint by numbers. So stop sending these bad trade so bad. Okay from orchids of Asia trade camakers and Robert tonner. Za bomber trade for Julian Edelman acres in Tanya for men. I don't think it's a bummer trade. Now it's not just had time you've got to believe. If you do that Robert Tanya is going to be a top twelve caliber tight end the way. and. There's a very good chance that he could be while Allen, was our out I. Mean you've seen the targets there for him the last two games now Demont dabs hasn't played, but he plays a position that if you find a guy that's productive and right now for what it's worth is top three tight end and fantasy. It's clearly not going to be sustainable, but if he goes from three to twelve. He probably better than elleman given what those guys do at their respective positions. You gotta be a little concern about Attleboro. He's had one good game. It was a shootout against Seattle he was okay and week one but I gotta be a little concerned. He's not like a slam he's not edelman anymore obviously. But I agree. That's why I don't know. It's not a bomber trade. I'm just kidding but camakers and Robert Tanya for Julian Ataman Gray that. He's getting edleman. D.. C. I mean because if look we we had the great game from element then they had the running game against the raiders and then cam was out like what what do you think i? Don't know what done in that chiefs game like I thought he was going to have a great day. But I. You know Look Demure Bird and and kill Harry had better games at him and they're not invisible I mean they they get more. Work the whole thing about camping out it's like the funny thing about that is I'm not sure that's bad for wide receivers because cams, better quarterback Brian Hoyer but he's not necessarily gonNA throw for more yards. Okay, but it was where? I'm out talking about retrospectively for the chiefs game. He's not gonNA necessarily throw for more yards than than hoyer stood on because he runs so much. You know what I mean but you saw the one game sample size of them facing bit offense. that. They had to throw a one game sample size is also facing a terrible defense. I Dunno I thought he was gonNA be gaming chiefs. I did too. That's why I was. That's what's concerning though think the guy is going to have good game with Cam Yeah. He he won't be the top guy with cam but I think. Eshelman look you'll have higher upside and games that you expect it to be like they'll be playing from behind more competitive games but gains were their big favorites. You're probably not going to see a lot of target two receptions for element. Right, that's kind of yeah. That's what I was getting at. Okay. Great Heart grade the trade half. Pr. Give Up. Robert. Woods get Julio Jones. Be. Question. Yeah, I'm. I'm giving I'll give it a B. Plus I think. So yeah. Okay from get better player cd-roms. Zero Eight, three trade. C. H. AJ Brown and Noah fant. For. David Montgomery, Odell, Beckham and Travis Kelsey. So it's Clyde. Aj Brown fant for Montgomery Beckham and Kelsey. So it's a pretty big downgrade at running back. Yeah. I don't like it pretty big upgrade tight end. Wide receivers kind of a wash if AJ Brown is healthy. Yeah. See plus. I, think if I, mean if you have the running back depth to move on from Edwards allure and still get somebody you can start in his place if needed in Montgomery you're upgrading a tight end and the yeah like you said the water so I think the see okay the emperor is back ten team rest of season question dear Clint Brett Aaron Aaron Mike? O. Roenick that they like by the. People listen to this they might be eliminated. The Empire might be out the Yankees. By the way I'm Owen four I can't blame it all on injuries. I've done the redraft game in my head and boy I should have taken Kamera over saquon. I also drafted Julio Jones Chris God when he moster I was able to pick up Mike Davis. So I guess rest of season, what is your opinion on managing these individuals especially, Julio Jones and Chris? Godwin? I think it's I, think it's tough because if you're a team that's one in three at this point and you're desperate mean you might have to trade one of these players away for not full value in order to get something to help you win. Now you don't want your team to just crumble but I still think they're going to be really productive players when they're healthy it's just we don't know exactly when that is going to be it's I would imagine the next couple of weeks at least for Godwin and Julio, but if you're wanting three or Four, I, think you gotta start to make some moves. What's the? What's the tipping point for you guys in terms of losses when you think you don't really have a chance to be competitive. Oh, and five. I think three games under five hundred. Yep. I'm Owen four on the PODCAST. Catholic. But I actually really do believe in my squad. I really think we're GONNA come back. We're going to go on a four game winning streak. Oh, five this week. Are you shaking things up? No No If I lose this week, I will continue to be aggressive on the waiver wire and set my lineup but I will probably be less interested in making trades because I will honestly feel like, I'm out of it. I I'm sorry. That can help you. Because I have eleven teams and I probably won't like I'm just one hundred honest with you probably won't prioritize I'm not going to be the kind of fantasy manager that quits on the League and sucks. But I probably will put more focus into my other teams. That's just if I'm being one hundred percent honest. Is that make me a bad person? A lot of sense sorry I was supposed to you can natural human behavior, but it's like if you have a like. I think a lot of us. Fall victim homilies you plan frank but when you play all these a lot of leagues. You said you prioritize the ones that are doing better or you have more monetary interested or whatever the case may be We tend to post like on the block here I'm looking to make these trades instead of like most fantasy managers are aggressive making those traits you know, and that's part of I think the the problem when you get to these teams. So it's natural. Now it's tougher I play an eight leagues and it's you know I wish I could just sit down and dedicate time to looking at trade offers in all of them, but it's just not realistic. So like you said, I mean send a message out and tell people like what's available and hopefully you get trade offers in return but I do have like my home league, my home keeper League Longest Standing League where I probably pay closer attention to that than anything else because it means the most to me so. Again I. Yeah. Spin. Honest. I've tried so hard that lead to make trades tied and is just starting Gronkowski I've tried so hard nobody wants to give me. A fair deal in my opinion they've asked for like. US Make Industries though. I will I'm just saying they keep keep basically going for blood. And I'm just like, no screw you and then I lose. I've lost two weeks specifically because I've gotten. Like one or two point zero points from tight ends and maybe I'm maybe I should have given in but. I did pick up Cook I picked up jared cook was I didn't realize he was available. Look for look for TJ Hopkinson. Out there I have a few weeks where he was dropped because he's on a by where I'm struggling at tight end and I'm going to pick him up stash. Yeah I held Tanya and I picked him up last week. I played them in a couple of weeks and I was reluctant to drop them just because in case he does become something legitimate Yeah. Now, you just can't drop can't drop a good tight end they're just like they're just so valuable. All right last question from apple podcast. Diego. Wants to know Mike Davis Hodkinson and feeling giving up Mike Davis Hodkinson an atom Phelan for Robbie, Anderson Jamison crowder great that trade. Feeling for those guys. For Anderson Connor Yeah. It's good. Honor I thought you said crowder I I. Hope I didn't Connor. Yeah no that changes things. I'll go be plus. A good job you want this is your. You may lose Mike Davis having a great game this week. But this. This is your window to trade him because once you hit Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday whenever we get the reports of Christian McCaffrey is going to return practice he's done he is got zero value to anybody. Even. Let me let me follow up on that because I have read and heard that he is going to still be involved. Now. He might have zero value but. We have talked about this. Do you think he's evolved enough where McCaffrey is no longer, McCaffrey. Different conversation. So yes, you're right. He's still may be involved and McCaffrey May still not be the McCaffrey may not be the guy that we had last year that's totally a feasible. But if you are looking to maximize Mike Davis Yeah, you have to train them before the game because let somebody else have that one week benefit of Mike Davis. You get James Caan in return I mean imagine that what what, what you're getting in return a borderline first round pick. That's you have to do that. I would agree with that and I think Mike Davis will have a role but I can't imagine it being more than six to eight touches per night, which will eat into McCaffrey. We you know we're not going to get the twenty five to thirty touch McCaffrey anymore but close to twenty touches per game still a lot of targets red zone usage I think it could expect all those things out of McCaffrey. Alright let's do this fantasy cops. Senator emails fantasy football CBS, dot com put fantasy cops in the subject line. Someone. Sent me. This is from Juan. Thank you. For calling the cops, someone sent me Dalvin Cook and Tyler Lockett. For Christian McCaffrey. Their three zero when they sent the trade and I was Oh in three, I accepted it in the morning giving McCaffrey and getting Dow Cook and Tyler Lockett, I accepted in the morning. As soon as I woke up, I come to find out he was drunk when he sent it, people are complaining that it's a crappy trade obviously no collusion but should there be mercy for drunk mistakes because I. kind of feel bad i. took it. IF HE WAS DRUNK LL regulate drunk trades fair game. A one hundred percent. Somebody who likes to dabble in the in the beers. I sent a drunk trades out myself and look if it if it happens that's human like. I am I. Am not rescinding that trade. I wouldn't feel bad either your thirty got to turn it around. Yeah that's A. Bad Trade that but that is very funny. Okay. It was like what? What happens the next time that person makes trade and he doesn't like it the next day does he say oh? Yeah I, was drunk. Yeah to say it every time right right. I'll be responsible. This is from Zach. Dear? Butcher. Hughie Frenchie and M. No idea. You know this right. But your Huey Frenchie and M. First Year player in our league just dropped Zach Earth's for Robert Tanya. He has to DST's two kickers and Jimmy Graham available to drop. But he dropped Zach Ertz instead my philosophy as a commissioner has been led anything but collusion happen but this seems extremely odd. Do I step in here to protect the balance of the League or just say it's a dumb but legal move first year player dropping Earth's instead of second kicker. So. What I would do in this scenario is if this is like a friend of yours that you invited to the League and it's his first time playing and he does not know what he's doing here. He doesn't know what she's doing now that person doesn't know what they're doing. then. I think he'd just say, Hey, listen they didn't realize that you don't have to drop a tight end tight end. You could drop a kick. You don't carry to defend I would allow them tabs accurate back because you don't if somebody wanted to be part of your league for a long time. then. Why would you ruin the experience for them because they didn't know what they're doing Yeah we all started somewhere. Right. So it's yeah I think you just Kinda talk to the person in make them like, Hey, you're probably spent a decent amount of draft capital Zakar. It's probably shouldn't drop them, but it will say I play in a family league where my my sister Leonard Fournette after like one like. Four round pick on him and I picked him up but he's he's been quite useless. She knew. Jokes on you frank right about that by the way Butcher Hughie Frenchie and M M that is the boys, the boys this I. I. I don't. I don't have time frank gotTa Finish Shits Creek I this is from Joe. In my league last week, two of the managers decided to make a trade because one of those managers had Juju and connor whose games were postponed from Kovic. However, this trade was calling the question because it was Juju for Jonathan Taylor and they also agreed to trade the players back once the seat once the week was over. So it was essentially a one week rental player. Also these two managers who made the trade are legitimately best friends. So a few of the other guys in the League were screaming collusion it looked like a scenario or one guy was just giving his friend a very nice edition and Jonathan Taylor just for one week. What do you say fantasy cops? Terrible I hate this trade me one guy for a bye week or no? No you can't do or like in baseball trading a guy for like a two star week or something I'll trade you know no, you can't do that. No trade backs insane. It's the definition of collusion you really is how can you even justify that? Okay we're GONNA make a trade, a one trade the player you're giving me is on a by and I'm going to give him back to you the obviously it's it's nonsense and. You've been regulated talk. What's the? What's the result? Would he do? take those points away honestly and make them stick with traits like the humidity now guy he oh yeah you could do that. Yeah I like that much better idea Jamie. You're getting promoted lieutenant now. Thankfully. I don't know if that's a promotion or not. It seems like what you're the sheriff or take a quick break break. When we come back, we've got your emails fantasy football CBS, dot com of season questions, starters of questions. That's right after this on fantasy football today support for this podcast comes from state farm with surprisingly great rates. State farm is the real deal when it comes to home and car insurance state farm agents are always ready to help you personalize your insurance plan. You can create a policy that fits your needs. 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I'm sorry about that but we do our best. We do get a lot but I wanNA thank you all for reaching out and being a part of the show. So here's one from Ben. Before that Oh okay. Good good. We got colts have ruled out various Leonard and Anthony Costanza. Better News for Kareem Hunt. When did you learn this Jamie in the middle of my sentence or or during the commercial break? The commercial break so you shouldn't have told you think maybe we should've told me. During the commercial break that had this news. No. Okay I wanted to just my. From? Ben. From Ben, we have one spot for injury should trade Robert Woods for Chris Godwin. This is close but I think Chris Godman still has more upside recipes and then Robert Woods Robert Woods you know solid wide receiver to God what I think is still low and wide receiver one I would say if you are three and one or better, I would probably do this. I record does matter here because you may not have Chris Godden. For a couple of weeks we just don't know while you know robber woods going to give you consistent production. But let me ask you question when a guy like I wouldn't gets hurt and they don't put him on I are. Doesn't that make you optimistic that he will be back within three weeks. Much. So but you know the eagles are a good example of player on I are or up lous now, Sean Jeffrey, and coming back to bite them they're not going to be through five weeks without having that guy available. So that's a roster spot that they wasted. Okay. This is I. Don't have a name on this. Hey, Jim Dwight Andy Stanley and creed. Those are office characters, and if we were ranking them, it would be dwight. Jim Andy Stanley creed. Yes so ends last. Why don't you like anti he's mazing. Close. I well, I'm not a creed guy, but I met a guy either but I. Do, that was my least. About disrupting the wrong way that was my least popular takeover when I said that creed was like the most replaceable character whatever I said, I got killed for that people love creed. Is a one liner. You could never make an episode about creed. Okay. I have a starter question for you guys. Sixteen team have PR three Receiver League three bench spots. I have both jared cook and Molly Cox. I'm thinking of dropping one for coal. Beasley. Does that's a good idea and who should I drop? You gotta worry about Derek Injury. So. Yeah If, you have to make the decision on Friday, you can't drop Molly Cox. But if you go wait till Saturday to find out what Derek status than you make that move the problem is that just keep mind the saints by next week. So you're going to be looking for tight end again. Yeah you're probably drop cook there for Beasley, not that I think Beazley's upside is massive, but he's he's a solid by week replacement. This one's from Brad's phoned I. Give Up Chris Carson Jamison crowder. I get Allen Robinson and David Johnson Carson and crowder for David Johnson and Allen Robinson. SOC-. I like it a little bit more. I'll go be minus. This. IS FROM ALAN PR GIVE UP KAREEM HUNT GET Keenan Allen, and miles gaskin hunt for Allen and gaskin. I wouldn't want to. But if you're desperate for wide receivers, if it's a three wide receiver league and you're just really struggling. But I would try and shop hunt for maybe a little bit better. Of A wide receiver but not as big of a downgrade I, think the one thing with you're gonNA find with a lot of Kareem hunt fantasy managers. In some cases, it could have been there fourth running back. You know. So certainly, a lot of people driving their third. So if you're in good shape, what's he also got James Robinson or or you Have Mike Davis and you just play that whole scenario out. Then you should be shopping Kareem hunt for something that could help you in another spot but I agree I think it should be better than Keno not. That is going to be bad because we've seen what he looks like with Dustin Herbert, but you might be able to do a little bit better. I was thinking about that her it's been really good. Do. You think though that we you know we should probably anticipate. Along the way for Herbert Right I mean we've never. In recent history, we haven't really had. A must start quarterback as a rookie. Cam. Newton was. But just like really recently, Baker Mayfield was really good for rookie but he wasn't a must start Daniel, Jones? No, it even Kyle Murray. Cholera was not a top twelve quarterback on a per game basis. So I'm wondering if Kina now and might have some down weeks and this is his peak. What do you think? I think that his targets are GONNA come down a little bit just because they have to. He has like a thirty nine percent target share with Justin Herbert as quarterbacks. I. Think just naturally going to come down a little bit but he still going to be the main guy. So I think he's like a solid wide receiver to high and wide receiver to and PR. And I feel pretty good about that. I do too. I'm just wondering if you can get wide receiver one is for him. I mean again, right now like now's the time to sell high, but it's kind of like mixing. Don't just sell for the sake of selling him but if you can't sell him high for a legit top twelve wide receiver rest of season then yeah I would look into that. Yeah. The the one thing though like. Don't know if it's target's GonNa, come down. We don't know Mike Williams coming back. The run game could be shot right now because actors gone, the defense is certainly shot. So they're going to be probably a lot of games with they're trying to score a lot especially behind where else are they going with the ball With nobody's GonNa have a thirty nine percent target share though I mean. To that level? No but you know it's thirty five percent do percent still may be in that range that's going to be very high for sure he. He is the go to guy for Herbert that's been made very clear I wonder what? I wonder what the I feel like. The Andre Hopkins was like thirty one percent I'm not sure if I've seen much higher than that and I'm just putting it in context. I have been tracking that for that long but thirty percent is super high. So just so you know and he could he could definitely be among the leaders. All right. This is from John overpay half ptr Give Mile Sanders and Robert. Woods, get Dalvin Cook I also have golladay buoyed maclaurin and Deontay. Johnson. So give up sanders in woods for Dalvin College. Yes. Probably in overpay but you do have a lot of depth and I still I think this is a pretty clear upgrade from Sanders to cook. I would see if that same manager has madison and try and though he doesn't because the person who acquired Alvin Cook already had Alexandra Madison the perfect. Yeah. So good job. Kevin. In Arizona ten team half PBR Lee gives one point for every ten punt return yards and every twenty kick return yards I was offered Dj more for Meco Hardman. Who'd you rather have in this point for return your league ten punt ten minutes on yards twenty kick return yards, hardman or DJ more. More. I'd still rather have more. Okay, how about from? From Kenny MVSA, Tim Patrick Rest of season bonuses for forty and fifty plus yard touchdowns and one hundred yard. Games. I think you have to go with a better quarterback so I'll take him vs. In this scenario I'd rather have them be asked. What I would like to do is give Tim Patrick a week to see if you can either hold onto both do. So if you have to drop one though maybe people don't pick up mvsa syllabi, weekends struggled the last two games because Patrick has a good game against the Patriots with without Stefan Gilmore he's going to definitely look much more intriguing. Okay here's one trade away Kenyan, drake and Calvin Ridley. Drake and Ridley for David Johnson and Travis. Kelsey. I think this is a pretty fair trade see. I'd give it a be just because. Kelsey is so good at what he is that position and readily while he's been great, there's clearly you're seeing some flaws. So the running backs are watch. Star sit from Jeff. I need to sit one running back derrick. Henry James Connor. Robinson Mike Davis. This is non PTR who sitting Henry Connor Robinson. Davis. I would sit connor. Well, if you can do a backup replacement situation, then you know then it's easy to start Henry. But if you love all your running backs, you might just want to sit Derrick Henry is that is that fair to say? I. Mean certainly it is. But you know you know what the guys capable of and he's going to have fresh legs after being offer a week. So I know but the game might not be played. Yeah I mean that's the risk you run but like you said if you have a dozen designated replacement player but as now we expect to get into. So this is a good question overall right. If. You're in a situation where you don't have the opportunity to replace a guy you know in our leagues were letting people say this players on my bench. So if this game gets canceled, start this guy, but if you're not in that situation. When you look Derrick Henry his other three options are connor. James Robinson and Mike Davis I feel like they're good enough where I'm sitting Henry what's your threshold for sitting your Stud in a game that you fear might get postponed I think it's a good point. I mean, all four of those, a ranked inside my top fifteen running back this week. So they're all great options. So. Yeah. Look. If you want to play it safe, I would say that's probably right around the cutoff James Connor like once you get into David Johnson am I really GonNa Bench. Derrick Henry for David Johnson. Probably not. So James Connor might be right around the cutoff. Okay this is from Daniel Start two or three, a two of these three wide receivers in half ptr Beckham Charq Fuller. I would use both the guys in that Texans Jaguars game. I would bent Beckham. Agreed Yeah. All right. This is from Henry. Why is everyone so high on Jonathan Taylor this week, he's playing like sixty percent of the snaps. I mean they've been in some blog situation. So that's kind of the reason why he hasn't played a lot in the fourth quarter but I'm GONNA guess. He's GonNa play this game because it's a competitive game should be competitive game and it's a tough match-up. But I I'm hoping they're going to use them a little bit more than passing him than we've seen the last couple weeks to. Jamie, how do you? I don't know if you have your rankings ahead of in front of you but I have I have Taylor like rb thirteen. So I have downgraded him from where he has been at up guess. So I think he's more of a high energy to than the top twelve running you have Davis and Robinson you're starting them over Taylor we should get into for most out you should be starting mckinnon over him also so it's not a slam dunk, but it's very hard to get away from a guy in this offense even without Costanzo that offense line is still so good. Here's the follow up question to this. Pick a flex half Pr Jonathan Taylor DJ More Mile Sanders. Still Taylor for me. I think it's really close between the running backs tough match-up for. Sanders I will lean with Jonathan Taylor will. This is from Seth I, can start up to four of these guys. There are six of them. Shark. Gallup. Fuller Gauge Chenault Hardman. This is. I think Charleston Fuller, we're going to be the obvious ones, right? Yep, so that's pick two of these four. Then Michael Gallup Russell Gauge Viscous Chenault and McColl hardman. I. Yeah Galvano. Brandon from a city southwest of Hartford Connecticut I'm bad at this. Hey Ciro Pam Lana. Ray and Krieger. Cyril and my Siri just. You don't see a pam lingerie in my context. Thank you seri-. Okay. Very helpful. For PP are need to. Attain, of Pr League I need to flex spots Kenyan Drake Jonathan Taylor Josh. Kelley. No will fuller DJ Shark Dairy Slayton. So pick two of those drake Jonathan Taylor fuller slate NPR. I like Taylor and Shark. I, would go. Taylor and fuller. Also this emailer says he says that he has the best posture he's ever seen. Does he have good posture. I think he sits. Upright. Okay I have terrible. Pasha. Lots. A Bad Bad stuff easier. I opened the net. Hey everyone. Thanks. Okay. this is from Jesse. Please rank these NPR Josh Kelley Damian Harris Miles Gaskin deebo Samuel Kelly. Harris. Gaskin Samuel. Is this just for this week or he's I. Would Go. Kelly Gaskin Harris, Samuel. I would go Harris. Gaskin Kelly Sam. and. Now, start to of these three in standard scoring Kareem Hunt Jams Robinson Mike Davis. I guess you gotTa sit my Davis but I don't feel good about it. Sure. Last question from Adam Miller I need a flex this week half Pr James White Devante Freeman la viscous Chenault d ernest Johnson or chase Edmunds James White. devante Freeman Levinsky channel the Ernest Johnson or chase Edmunds. Is. It embarrassed that I kinda like devante Freeman half Pr. Oh don't say that out loud is very embarrassing frank. I would go with not. I'll. Use Freeman. Okay frank you finish the show by giving us a ten second explanation while you like Devante. Freeman. This week. Yeah, he was basically treated as the guy for the giants last week, he had like fifteen touches, three red zone opportunities and played like fifty five percent of the snaps and the cowboys defense is not good. It's hard to argue with that. Thanks a lot everybody. Good luck. 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REShow: Brian Baumgartner. Hour 3 (08-31-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Brian Baumgartner. Hour 3 (08-31-20)

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He gets the three away and time got extracurricular activities Donncha what to get into it with Marcus Morris Yokich gets it the Murray for three. Give. Gays. Show download and podcast at richeisenshow dot com earlier on the show ESPN. NBA reporter Dave mcmanamon SEATTLE seahawks tight end Greg Olsen Michael Low bond coming up actor Brian Baumgartner and now. Ridge is. Third Hour the rich Eisen show is just seeing Brockman are. In the hallway. Backstage here. And I just said to you man those conversations we had in the second hour Michael Wilbon. In Greg, Olson talking about John Thomson. And you know obviously, the NFL world respectively the now. Seattle Seahawk, tight end just unpacking for those who may have missed the Olsen conversation. How about him? I had not heard. That the bears told. Him that there was an offer on the table from New England for his services. Prior to the draft where they took. Rob Gronkowski. I mean talk about a difference in what could have happened in the future of the NFL. Of this past decade that just ended in like what if they addressed what they traded for Olsen and not drafted gronk would gronk have been grunk. ooh. Would ask the Patriots would could also be raised. And that was the two thousand, ten draft by the way now that we're totally done with the. Who needs more Bella, check or Brady conversation that will finally get an answer to after twenty years of talking about it. And all of us in the NFL. Absolutely in the NFL media absolutely turning to that conversation because we just got bored of all the Patriot appearances in the Super Bowl we just had to come up with stuff to talk about every year. We're finally getting an answer that. They're both. Teams go eleven and five this year. Then, what Demos still talk about? What's Told it's for something to talk about we got three hours every day Chris Ladies Assistant quarterback. Five both make it to the conference shape the trump. Then what well. Play. As you know the ultimate is. H Patriots. Bucks. please. I know literally, I've already made a body know with ultimate respect to every other team in the NFC and every other team in the AFC. I, know chiefs fans would go. Absolutely nuts. I WANNA. Hear we hear me hear me when I tell you every NFL. Media Executive. Am I talking about the NFL Media Group the NFL network I'm talking about anybody WHO's any? They will take a run up to the Super Bowl AFC on. CBS by the Patriots, name will take a run up to the super bowl in the NFC by the bucks at Fox. The Super Bowl is no it's up. Here yeah I know but it's CBS this year because NBC would have had it in Los Angeles Los Angeles. So it moves back. So basically what ended up happening after? They had to reconfigure. The order because of pushing back the Super Bowl here in Los Angeles because of the delay in the construction what essentially happened is Al Michaels said I am not. Going to the Super Bowl in Los Angeles. So I could because they couldn't put some beams. In time because it rained too damn hard here a couple of falls ago it was a little muddy. I think that is exactly what happened Al put his considerable thumb down on this scale. Something else might happen. So you know. All said and done. Everybody would take Patriots Bucks. Superbowl right now. Period and story. I don't know if that's going to happen. Because the chiefs Chiefs are pretty good chiefs a really really good. Oh Yeah. The Ravens are GonNa be even better with Coleus, Campbell the defense, and that kid jk Dobbins I cannot wait to see him in that offensive. Does Lamar Habit. Orders Ingram habit or does dobbins habit yeah. As Hollywood brown runs like a deer. Towards the goal posts. And Clays, Campbell, we all know can shutdown. Derrick Henry a little bit better. If that's the match up that they see each other again in the playoffs. I know bills fans are raising their hands don't sleep on us. Wallover in the NFC clearly saying, have you take a look at the? NFC West. The NFC north just got that much more difficult. When Aaron Rodgers for the first I. Think this is true. Right. That's the first time Green Bay's never opened to season at Minnesota, and again, we know that we're not expecting fans there. But Green Bay will be an Aaron Rodgers will be the first one to look across of scrimmage and see Jahic Gakugei in purple. As the Vikings at vantage of the Jaguars. Being a between a rock and a hard place Gawk as we all know. Upset over his contractual situation being franchise tagged and all, and the fact that the Jaguars. Got Anything for him as well as seventeen million and taproom by sending him off to Minnesota's significant I'm not saying it's not significant, but it allowed Minnesota. Basically take one of the top pass rushers in the game and acquire him for only two to five. That became official just today. Breaking over there Chris is Breaking Yeah Adam Schefter and others saying Alvin Kamara. He's been absent the last three days from saints practice they're reportedly. And contract related. Oh boy. He is. Up next according to field yates he is do just two point one, million dollars this year boy that is what we would say Pennies on the dollar. For Him Pennies on the dollar. He wants to get paid. Mrs Again why I will repeat again I don't understand. Why Fantasy You'd be fantasy football league that drafts any other time other than either the day the season starts or the week the season starts I would never stand to be any league other than that I, remember last year. Last year even up to the first game of the season when my poker league started drafting Zeke Elliot had just finally. Come off the Beach Connell. You've got to get everybody's situation saddled. So. There's that Chris you want over you on your fantasy league. This past week and you had your draft Karaj draft went down discuss this at length on Friday's program where we unpack for our in case anybody who's new to this show because of peacock or NBC and the fact that you are in a league, I would rather stick needles in my eyes or pins in my is to use the terms of deer and phrase that I. I would rather do that than being your league fourteen teams and and no time limit on on drafting somebody. How long did your draft go this time around? We were supposed to be in Kansas City of course Cova shut it down. So we were zoom in on Saturday. Six hours, sixteen minutes. Not, that bad. Now, what was actually that was one of the lowest. Bad. One of the thoughts because normally take launch. On talking to people but you know you're just zooming. So things a rapid pace of could you I say this rhetorically to Out there, watching the rich Eisen show right now and listening to the rich Eisen show right now this rhetorical question could you imagine? Being part of a fantasy league that takes six plus hours. To draft. Actually, it wasn't that bad, Michael. You're twenty minutes got a baby Sarah. Did she take care of your your baby boy for the entire. He was hanging out with us for a couple of hours because Sarah had a had an appointment did she had to go to? So he was just chilling with us while we were doing and then she went over to a friend's place that had a pool. So he goes swimming. Does she left the house for for the back end of it. Gosh Yeah. So fornet wind up 'cause somebody drafts for now. Suddenly he's got no team he's a man without a country and once he finally does where we have no idea he certainly. Probably isn't going to be the bell cow like we. Expect him to be. Yeah. Him In love EON. Bell the wave today. Rob. Guys we're taking away weight. Than Normal. Somebody kept I imagine thinking that this guy's GonNa Chimera I had camera the last three years. So he was back in the pool, but he went number three overall. Just because he's not at practice now does not mean he won't be there and ready and going week one against by the way. Tampa Bay And you WanNa talk about a tough schedule obviously just being in this division, the Saints Habit. Matt Ryan on the Rich Eisen show on Wednesday this week I should say Matt Ryan is on Rich Matt Ryan. I. Know That Matt Ryan we can discuss why you're saying that over and over Matt Ryan Order. Is. Got It, I don't. UNPACK that that. Date for those out. Saying that Ryan. You gotTA move on. GotTa move on. Their way to come on for the moment. Six hours I mean good Lord that bad rich might not be. A child you don't have a child you don't have a life. You've got a boat that you closing on. Today's I hit the. You don't have anything going on your life you got another job, but we gotta be kidding I made. I made. Drinking stop. Little time on. My daughter turned seven on. Sunday right. You'RE GONNA pandemic we're trying to quarantine. We're trying to do the best. We possibly can do I cannot imagine saying the Susie six hours. I just need a good six hour break. So I could be I'll take care of the kitchen time. Yeah. Check in Boma change a few diapers. I mean in his defense cage was sitting right in the middle. He was offering his input. Older we towards the end of last hour because Russell Wilson's tight end was on and we talked about how Russell's twelfth in. Passing attempts last year, we were just kicking around the co- topic of football quarterbacks and it's great to be honest with you. We concocted a new poll question that were put up at richeisenshow contradict this one that's. Yeah hit this with the. I will do that while you unpack it for NBC audience. The peacock audience already heard we were talking about quarterbacks, backups I who might get some action. So we threw this out there who starts a game I at quarterback this year which backup hits the field I we came up with Nick Foles for the bears. To a down, MIAMI jalen hurts with the Eagles Marcus Mariota with the Las Vegas Green starts at game I arts I. I wanted to put Jordan love to four attackers. You know what? We left off Justin Herbert. Don't sleep on that young man. We only have four spots but I know that Delia affiliate Jalen hurts on there just because he trended yesterday when Wentz nist. were sat out the. Words. Soft, tissue injury was thrown around. And if you've been watching hard knocks, you know that herber looks really good. Chimeras now trending. By the way, easily the most mispronounced name of a star athlete in the NFL. It's Chimaera Chimaera not. Kamara. unexcused absence from training camp pass three days it is believed to be contract related resources I. Guess He tweeted out on the seventeenth. Sorry in advance. Sorry in advance. Alvin Kamara said yeah. The breadcrumbs, he had a plan. Wow I'm going to go because we're in the third hour. On. A scale you gotta thumb it right now, I of just clicked on one Nicholas foles and I'll tell you this. Reading all the tweets from Chicago over the weekend Matt Nagy said we shall not name starter. Prior to week one. So that will leave the Los Angeles no. Let me get this right that will leave the Detroit lions in the dark. Do you think? This will keep. Matt Patricia and company up at night over the next ten days. and. Dot. Because first of all, in terms of the way trubisky looked last year. Go for it. Secondly, it's not December, January so foles. Starting in September. Gulford. David. Montgomery, we're hoping we'll be back in time for a run the ball forum open. My word I clicked on fully now Robinson Anthony Miller they. Treat Mario to the only way that he would start is if the Gruden the What would be a good? This'll be good fantasy name itchy gruden trigger finger. Yeah you know it's that time of year I do. GRUDEN trigger finger list. That's That's the way and by the way just in case you're wondering. I do take my glasses on and off a lot. and. I got a new prescription which Oh. No. which which means everything in me here. It's Chris Oh. My Gosh. This is on the glasses on but then I look at that screen it's a big blurry A. Shirt for your own I'm out I'm now going to be doing this a lot I'm just giving. Sorry in advance advanced aren't advanced. Go. Kamera for your sorry in advanced go by Fogel. Clear and. Father love those is that right? Sort of Ben Franklin. No. Philadelphia have we decided what our fantasy names going to be for the Allison chain though? You write down things. Happy later on in the week. One from tomorrow is when you're the general manager raft the in chains Jerry Cantrell celebrity. Yes. Fantasy League I believe MS is back is the MS the Mrs on our guest list of this week he is. So we'll talk about Michael Boo blaze back guys Boublil. And Jerry Cantrell got him. Garlands and so. Two years ago, two years ago, and we have the second overall pick this year. Well then I guess we get saquon right because this is a p PR situation. We need to hope. It's a point per catch two in this league defecate and his first we need to hope what he loves. He loves Russell Wilson. Doesn't take Christian McCaffrey. So he foster stuff McCain as you know, has been on this program Duff. McCain as we know once upon a time may have lived a harder life than he does. But I don't think there's no. Nearly as hard a life. That is required for him to have the first overall selection in a league that awards a full point. For a cash to say. That he looks at Christian McCaffrey and goes. I don't think there's any way on this earth that happens. Well, maybe he heard Greg. Olsen. Say That decay metcalf let's say Calvin John. Maybe we'll take Greg Olsen. Kwan's going to be ours and this one and you know I've got number two overall on my poker league. I think it's I love Saquon. Barkley. We gotta get him on now. Get Them Andre the Super Bowl. Let's get them on knows it. He knows how I feel about him. We pick the MS picks third Michael Fabiano picks so we could we could ask ms what's it worth to him to let us Allow somebody to slip to him, Nethon, I'm saying. What's it worth either, MS? That's what I'm saying it's MS is not thumb is. Vital. Referral from is. Worth is. What you risk what's it worth to you MS yeah. Well I know he would just say please leave Nick Chubb for me. binker way he would definitely say. Go. Vote on this poll question Brian Baumgartner formerly of the office well, once the office always at the office sports keep coming back. 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We come up with stuff program Chris the poll question that we concocted during our peacock segment at the end of the second hour where things currently stand in that situation who start a game I a quarterback this year with these backups fulls to jalen hurts Marcus Mariota falls is up right now fifty eight percent. To twenty, nine percent hurts seven percent Mariota's six before you accuse me of put my thumb on the scale. I when I clicked on, it was already. Air. Yeah Man to a don't sleep on this week once start foles. Out of the week one, you think. You got any inside infant inside INFO just don't don't don't sleep on. Why. Why did you take the guy? Then like like let's rock on me I know. But fits is also somebody who can win you some football games and Know gets a little more time to just sit there and watch. Cares. If you win football games, did you see some of the practices Josh Rosen's been the best quarterback in? Now I know that's All I wanted them for the Patriots before. Welcome back to the rich Eisen show also now on NBC or audience rejoining peacock audience in our radio audience and out of respect to our next guest Chris Brockman when you came up with the poll, question of which quarterback is most likely to get the week A. Which quarterback currently backup is most likely to get a start i. You chose Jordan Lavas is. Out of respect that we cannot do that respect to. Rogers as well as our next guest. Who is a diehard packers fan and also the host of a new podcast releasing episodes every single Tuesday and oral history of the office podcast. We're all podcast available now also exclusively on on on spotify. Brian Baumgartner here on the rich Eisen show. How are you sir? I'm doing great. What is this shenanigans that he's throwing out before I'm even on I don't even understand well, Bryan. Look you're dealing with a guy like the number twelve he's been rooting for for the last twenty years with Tom Brady. So he likes throwing shade in the directions of other people who aren't nearly as fortunate to be waterskiing behind six championship yachts like has. So I. Think he just wanted to throw Jordan love out there. As getting a start. A before any other backup will this year and I I found that appalling so I blocked it I use my preemptory is host Brian. There you go. Excellent very, very well, good luck with the buccaneers this year by the way. Well the battle the bays should be interesting when that happens. Later on this year Brian I mean what do you think of your packers coming into twenty twenty? Oh. I you know what? They made the NFC championship game last year. That's true. I mean that's that's it. I their schedule is tough. But I think they're gonNA be stiffer front. That's what she said. Um. I I I. Have Hope I of course it's like. Oh this is this is great new. This is great insight Burmese to start off the shelf i. wish it got him a little more help like everyone has been discussing. with guys catching the ball. But you know I I I I remained positive and steadfast in my resolve while you know what I, I don't blame you for doing that because if things kind of bounced a little bit your way last year, the packers could have been the one seed and but yeah, that that's that's selection of Jordan. Love you know three years from now you might be four years from now you might be high fiving your the packer fan your left your right. But right now that one was a total head scratcher to me Brian as it was to Aaron Rodgers. A little confusing released. A little confusing. So do you have you ever played golf with our? many times. Okay and he many times. Okay. Yeah. You know. We're. We're. We're we're buddies. Yeah. It sounds like it sounds like fight club. Are you not supposed to talk about your friendship with iron because I don't want to? Okay. Okay No no we play a lot of gall together and fact we were we were paired up twice this year at the old. American. Century champions right in Lake Tahoe. and that was that was a lot of fun. He i. he usually plays better when he plays with me unfortunately. I'm happy I'm happy for him about that in in a in a way and also disappointed in a away. But yeah, we had we had. We had a really great time. He was at the birth of my child for the love of all Pete. We're yeah. We we've been friends for a long time. Well, TJ Jefferson richeisenshow social media grandmother has provided us a photograph that appears to be Aaron Rodgers. Next to Ashton Kutcher an inbetween Aaron Rodgers and you is one Michael Jeffrey Jordan that looks like that. Where where was this taking? That was taken at at at Jordan's MJ's charity event that he used to have. in the Bahamas I though I think that's when he had moved to Las Vegas I have that photo does look like a little shadow creek actually back there little creek Oh. Yeah. Because Mr Cooper was there. Yes. That was shadow quits, right? With by the way, a belt buckle that might be as large as the actual Lake that man-made Lake that was behind on April the first two, thousand, twelve he got there go. All right. Very good. Let's be clear. Mister couture was not playing golf I'm not exactly sure what he was doing, but he was there for a while he was carrying. Yes. It does look what you really counting Michael Jordan in jeans. Come out and caddy for a few holes. Yes. I remember Dwight Dwight free with our forth in that that force that we have. So where was free? Did you take the picture I took the picture. Okay. I'm not sure we're freeing was at that point but yeah, that was the four some oh you. Did. Oh. Yeah He. Brian doesn't know me so he's Speaking to. Go. That was there what Ashton. was dressed like burt reynolds from hooper is what it looks like to me right there. So very good Nice Day right there. Brian Baumgartner here on the rich Eisen show, where'd you come up with the The idea for the pod man? It's so popular obviously the office is popular is ever. An, oral history of the office walked me through how you team up on this one sir. Well. Really it is. Because of what you just said that the office is more popular than ever you know four. We were the number one scripted show on NBC, for a lot of the time that the show was on but we haven't found anything in seven years and based on any metric. Now, it is the most watched show and television which is chipped insect. and I'm including like shows that are being made. And, so part of it was the idea of trying to figure out why like why it has caught such fire and becomes sort of the cultural phenomenon that that it is today and and really why do young people like it like why? Like you know fourteen year olds thirteen, twelve year old like wire they watch 'cause we never thought we were making a show for kits right? We thought we were making show that people who were working in offices might relate to. and so it was really for me the podcast is a is a journey, an active exploration trying to figure out why in the world as the show not just survived this long but is actually now thriving more than ever. After all this time well, in terms of kids that kind of Nixes the reason why I would prefer to say it's so popular is obviously other than the writing and the acting and and obviously the mock documentary that that that it sends up quite a bit with the way that it shot We've all had bosses that are just not competent. And goes to work thinking that it's entertainment that that all good has to be as entertaining. And that we've all had that and we've all had cookie CO workers, and we've all had people who are no at all at work and we've also. Seen Office Romances, it just speaks to so many different levels. Yeah Rich. When we look at it, our friend Ben Silverman who executive producer show. Yes. When when when, when he gets asked why popular he's like we'll because it's funny. Level if it's I, think you're right but I think what I have found through doing at talking to so many people in doing this podcast is exactly what you're talking about is what we thought like when we were on set not all number the number, but it was like, well, there are two hundred, million Americans who work in offices across the country so. If, we can just find a small percentage of those people that can relate will then we're great right like this is a home run. So I think what we never realised even we never realized when we were making it. What the parallel between being stuck in an office with people, you don't choose to be with with an unreasonable boss parallel between that to being stuck in a classroom with an unreasonable teacher that maybe makes you do things you don't want to do and you have to sit next to people who you don't choose to sit next to, and there's the cool kids with the romance and and it relates I to them in a way that we never imagined when we were making it Brian, Baumgartner, here on the rich Eisen show who were you channeling his as Kevin? Brian. I don't know no seriously you didn't have like a CO worker that I. was there anybody that you based? Your portrayal. No I think one of the things that made the show. So unique and different was that the people who were the actors who were involved all came from different places, right. So like you had DJ Novak and Craig Robinson who were like stand up guys and Steve. Carell, Angela Kinsey who were like Improv people for me, I, myself and Rainn Wilson we were like we came straight from theater. So for me, it was really about constructing and building a character and. Where it came from I, don't know just like the dark recesses on my brand. The dark recesses of your brain I love that I'll accept that as an answer just was. Wondering if there was anybody out there and you know Ed Helms for a very, very long time. Correct Bryant. Dot is using. I aged like a fine wine that maybe too much Tannin We've had and I don't look the same. But yes, I am I am I was well I don't know how many years but I I was one class ahead and we were we were close friends. Our parents are friends. Yeah. We've known each other a long time as a smallest worlds I think we have Something that just got instagram down maybe even by you was Kevin's chili recipe. I think we have that right here on our program so. Yeah, there were just Kevin's famous. Do, don't drop it. I like. Peacock instagram this out on their stories and you know we're on peacocks we're, and this is where the office is headed eventually. So did you have anything to do with this at all yourself or this was just something that was placed in front of you? Brian the. Rest. Thing. Yes or No that was just a you know there's been a lot of discussion about it. It was. It was so different I mean, it was really unlike anything else that we did on the show. And you know this sort of model that I had with a chilly and there was a guess a big discussion in the writer's room like we can't do this. This is too much. This is too much of a departure. And I I. I knew it was. I love to start with that I think that it was going to appear as a mean every day for the rest of my life on social media. No, I, definitely did not not envisioned that scenario but I I? Yeah. I'm tremendously proud that it was one take dat is that is I guess in a way my claim to fame, it will probably be on my tombstone. Gartner. That might mean something else that might not but I think that's really what Yeah. What what, what I will be remember I mean I think I. Think I saw it even over the weekend I mean did you taste it before you dropped it cornell though was just a Standard Chile. I did not take it but I will I will tell you a quick story that we Angela Kinsey and Oscar. Nunez. And myself three accountants we periodically would go to a nice dinner after work. We shot this on a Friday night and we had planned to go very nice. You can guess I'm not going to give them a plug but very nice day cows in Beverly Hills that we had a reservation at this particular evening, and of course, they got off early because I was the only one who shot. And I did the same and they they had come to me before and they said we have three giant pieces of carpet. So you can do this three times but that's it man you gotta get it. We get one and as I've joked later like they could have changed the carpet, but they couldn't change me like I was. So just gained kind of that yellow or orange yellow chilly. So I get in the shower and I'm like show it's the most people I've ever showered with to rich I was not a professional football player. There's like wardrobe people make up people hey, getting it out of my hair and all the stuff. So I leave that. Happy with myself and I sit down at this very. Restaurant in Beverly Hills and I can just smell chilly. There's like Oscars like I got us a seafood tower. I'm like I can't always smell with killing. This is the most wasted me all of my entire life. Stuck around much longer than the lingers. Let's just like the mean Brian. You just can't get it. You just can't get it out. You know I mean it's it's. GonNa follow you for a very long time. So I'll ask the question I'm sure you get a lot but I'll do it anyway getting everyone back together getting the band back together getting doing another episode like literally having a reunion show is there how realistic is a chance percentage it that that's what we do in the in sports media's ask percentage as like what percent are you in terms of readiness or injured or not coaches were asked what percentage is it possible to get this person back in the lineup? GimMe a percentage Brian. I mean. The way that you ask the question yes sir. I would say. Is probably exceeds eighty percent. Oh Wow I. Don I I could do the math. So there's a there's a better than four out of every five chances of of asking that. You said that this happens. Yes. But I think I think what I think we're on the question. A lot of people ask is about. rebooting the show like having that exist again for like another season or something that number is way lower. Okay. But but the idea of getting everybody back to do. Some sort of. Reunion an event. That's what I would say. Okay. Yep. Eighty better than eighty percent because it seems like you all genuinely like each other when when obviously you're talking on your podcasts. I've I have gotten no Angelo because our kids go to the same school and she talks just glowingly about everybody like everybody seems to genuinely like everybody. So that might not be an issue and the popularity is. So I'll ask this then what's HAPP? What's more likely to happen I the reunion show or Jordan love starts a game for the Green Bay. Packers, quarterback. Great Question. Who I can't answer that. Is Healthier Golf Buddies. Healthy is he's healthy. So you could kind of get an idea of years I left on contracts. You know what? I'm saying, what do you think right? Are you? Oh. Well, are you saying what happens I? Eight single game or replaces as qb one. Pack. I you know what? Because he could get a cup of coffee if the packers clench early enough this is Brian Baumgartner trying to avoid answering the question with a very salient football point. I'm trying to figure out way I should go no an actual like they're saying let's give them a shot. Let's look. What happens I The. Reunion show or that. Brian Baumgartner Now. Get ahead you get. What what if what if what if the packers you know after this year send them to New England. which is I mean yeah. Okay. So do I think it's GonNa. Be Do I I can answer that I think it's going to happen. Do I think that the office gang will be back together before the end of this football season now? Okay I don't know. All right a good fit for Wardrobe When I you percents this is what I say. On No? Diptych knowledge that I will be alright Brian. In the meantime, we'll just have to soak in your awesome podcast oral history of the office podcast available now exclusively on spotify So you got a new episode coming out this very Tuesday correct. It's every Tuesday. and. And your guest. Start. We we start looking toward the end well, last week We we covered the period of time when Steve Carell left. And and and now the show is is rapidly coming to an end. So we'll We'll hear from a lot of different people about. kind of the decision that was made for why we decided. That it was time for the show to be over okay, Brian thanks for the call. Let's chat more and go hit him straight when you can get out there. Obviously, let's do it. Absolutely. Thanks. I appreciate it right back at Ya, of course, the very popular Brian Baumgartner his. PODCAST and oral history of the office podcast available on spotify at bb bombed gotten her on twitter. He's also on instagram. As, well, your phone calls and we'll wrap up this show and set up the rest of the week. We're very proud of our guest list. Zoe's that's still to come here on the program don't go. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. You know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy? It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home go to Geico Dot, com, get a quote and see how much you could save. It's GEICO easy visit GEICO DOT com today that's Geiko DOT COM G. I. C. O. DOT COM. Eight four four, zero, four, rich number Dow here on NBC sports on Peacock every single day we finish up the the. Broadcast Day. Soon, we're going to be right in the middle of it We follow Dan Patrick every day, and soon we will lead into brother from another that's coming this month with PF T pm. This love being on this channel of hearing about it to people really enjoy it. You think they tell me just because they know it's important to me in the show Chris. Do you think they're being honest with me? What do you think I? Think it's a combination of both. It's a soup that each like a meal. Yes to use that phrase from back in the day. I think I think I think by the way that. TJ, through Brian Baumgartner for a loop, didn't think that there'd be photographs photographic evidence of something and then TJ also. Being self promotional, which is Great. Instilled that in people. Back here on NBC S N so. We just were talking in our peacock segment We come back a little bit from Kershaw break than we do on our cable and Radio Affiliates TJ Jefferson I think he threw Bryan Bumgarner for a loop for having. A photograph from his? I. Mean when you're playing golf with Aaron Rodgers and Michael Jordan at Shadow Creek in Las Vegas Nevada. That's big and here you are. Driving a car. And there's Michael, Jordan? That's very famous man you're sitting the did you drive him around or Z. Did he just come and sit and take a photograph with did you ask him for a photograph? What is the story behind that photo of rich I'm long winded with my stories and I'm looking at the clock and I don't know if I have enough time that condense all of this. But Oh, my Gosh, we've twelve minutes left. Over Minute version. You know to make a long story short bryce for the story preaching. Great. Next. Week. I'm sorry you're saying. No. I happened to be there I I went with Ashton Michael Jordan had asked him to complete Gulf Ash told me didn't play. So then Mike Ashworth you wanNA caddy doesn't. So action said Yeah I'll come caddying and he asked me do you want to go to Michael Jordan's golf tournament to which I responded of course guess. So we went there and you know I so you the assistant to the cadre of who who is he caddying for he was cutting for MTA Okay. So Michael Jordan says, would you like to come play golf in my golf tournament Ashton Kutcher says I would love to but I don't play golf and Jordan asks him to be his caddy. Yes and then he invited you because he knows how much you'd enjoy that enjoy your company and your presence and you do so then you or the assistant to the caddy of Michael Jordan. Close is that as as close to anything related to Michael. Jordan, you've ever gotten in your entire lifetime mean other than you know I got to spend time with Mike all day, I mean that was one honestly one of the most surreal days of my lights lazy driving. Co, I've drawn Mike around but just he you know everyone says, how competitive is I? Remember him pulling up next to me were driving from the whole and he looks at me and then he just takes off he wanted to raise Gulf. Like what people say is true everything he does like a competition. So now are those Tartan George that you're wearing right there. You know I can't see what we're looking at. Well. You don't remember the pants you while that. Oh. All right. So here's a story on that I met Mike the night before at the hotel. Yeah. We get to the golf course I. Think he's on the third t when we finally got there. So I step out you know like every day I'm wearing my Jordan's got some knee hide Jordan socks on plaid shorts and a black shirt, and this is a true story. It's crazy hundreds of people watching him about the t auto. Yeah. We start walking towards him and Michael Jordan stops looks over at me and he looks at my outfit he just goes. Really, what that blank are you wearing and everybody just lost it and I kinda you know maybe a me I kind of had to strike a pose to work with Sherman was. Yeah, it was. It was it was a pretty amazing day. So she's a button on this you. TJ Jefferson's richeisenshow social media grandmaster. Brian Baumgartner's on the shell say, Hey, I've got a photograph of Brian with our Rogers. and Michael Jordan Ashton Kutcher and you provided to richeisenshow executive producer, Don Buoy, and the rest of the staff. At Home Sean Mitchell in my hoskins to say, Hey, this is a photograph I'd like to give this photograph in support of the segment you're in fact, helping produce this show and making it better I mean. Days, I used to be a producer stood that right? Right. So you did that and then you also said, here's one of me and Michael is well if you care to use that. I mean, say you added you just threw that one in there as well. Well, you might have needed. Some reference Donnas telling me about your you just sent it yours no reference like you just put it out there good job too. Yeah, look. Let's this real proves that I totally do itself smoking. You put me in front of this microphone. Got To get to know me and you're saying how interesting I am. And I'm going to provide them with proof of this you know or I don't. Brian Baumgartner here's Michael Jordan. Promotion it's all about it's all about. That's what it seems like to me I love Jay. Did you know? I hung with Michael Jordan all day. You know that Michael, sat next to me and we took a photograph like we've known each other forever I like that shirt. The stories much net to. Look at Mike Mike is looking very chill and like enjoy your company who doesn't. We're going I'm. going. For those who may not know when you go higher register as we say, you're on the show you don't really believe what you're saying oh no I believe that I mean let's I. Believe that would make it seem like I don't think it's a very good picture when you go high register not all. You know what? I'm just GONNA shut up. Like. Our poll question. I think Richard Bisky could really have a good season. No chance. No no no. No. In Mind drafting Leonard Fournette, and the second round I think he's GonNa wind up in a good spot. It's not a lie. You believe if you believe you. Say. Nick foles sixty percents. Means forty percent thing you know hey. Classes half full. We could do this all day. Absolutely. I register you do a segment I. Find like a sponsor on. was. Like Hey, we're now openly saying, Hey, your your your name here would look good. This segment looks good on you. Higher Register Bose headsets. By. Remote go we all go say something that we kind of believe but don't really believe and we all have to San. High Register? I'm totally down. Hey, just because love eon bell says his answering are fine. I think it's going to be fine. Buying a book could be fun. Dallas was going to win thirteen games. Zorn's shirts Alice. Looks Good. I think the. Team to beat register. Sure. Really my ex wife. Actually That did sound like something was getting squeezed there. was, that was. Doing that I told you what? I literally, something. Wow. Great segment idea though. richeisenshow high register. We're spitball in live on our quad cast of this. Sponsored by holes. because. You know what that? What that reeks to me John Baumgartner saying it's an eighty percent shot that means that's already been. That he's got something that something's been discussed, I'm GonNa just go ahead and assume. That, there's a scrap goose. That means something's been written that sounds. Yeah. That sounds like to me. Just can't say because you don't know when the pandemics over right refused to say when Jordan love's GonNa take over the controls because he just knows, did he confirm or deny that Aaron? Rodgers is fudge and his handicapped he said he plays better when he's with Brian, which is really odd. and Don. cheadle says that Rogers is handicap. Says it's fourteen but he plays like a seven. So he plays better around Don Cheadle, which is odd. ooh. Who Plus. Rogers. Owned totally. Rogers pretty good at golf but sometimes. Plays better when you're expected I don't think Aaron Rodgers Professional Athlete and me not professional athlete are the same level of golfers. That's all I'm saying. Let's take a quick phone call here on the rich Eisen show Patrick and a husband literally hanging on for an hour plus what's up Patrick Hey Rich. Can you hear me? I can you're on live? WHAT'S UP SIR? Do Our am I speaking to the best ever? Yes you are Patrick three months. Three that's coming up on three months of me being the best. Water. Yeah I watched the episode when the or like you know when you put that on there and Had to give it a shot up but it's Ok kind of talk some fantasy football I've got about a minute for you to discuss the fantasy football. Sir, what do you have in your mom wrap it up so I was watching last Friday and everyone talks about running-backs. Okay. 'cause my draft is on Friday. Okay. Mark McCaffrey I get Zeke but Erin. Aaron. Jones. Show I. Hear you want who you need. If you're PR league which I am Yes, he got sixteen rushing touchdowns and three receiving touchdown. Don't sleep on him. I gotta say that I also. Chat off the block but brock six hours for fantasy draft. Ridiculous? Info. And thanks for the call and Patrick. Thanks very I can't even go higher register on that. Say now when I wouldn't mind I can't even do it. Can't do. WanNa thank today's guests. Dave McMenamin Michael. Wilpon was so great Greg Olsen Great mcmanamon to and Brian Baumgartner Tomorrow's program. Chris Collins Worth will join US stocks and football at Chris. Melvin Gordon. DENVER broncos. Also, Kenosha Wisconsin. Native. He will join US David. Zucker. The director of airplane to talk about the fortieth anniversary of a movie that was so formative for me. Same with the television show police squad. So we'll talk frank drubbing tomorrow Wednesday Chris Harris. Junior Kyle Brandt Matt Ryan, and the Ms. Thursday scheduled Terrell Davis Glenn Howard innovate ap a by what you could see here on Peacock Kevin Harvick. Who I think is one every NASCAR race correct every NASCAR right about that. John Leguizamo will join us as well. I do WANNA finish with this. Boy Did the death of Chadwick Bozeman? Hit me like a ton of bricks. Out about you, I think I. Think I speak for everyone. that. This late. would be doused. By cancer when I had no idea that he had it and I think. Most of planet Earth had no idea that he had it. It just hit me. In the same way that the death of Coby Bryan hit me somebody cut down in the prime. With so many years left to give. That we lost. Black Mamba and Black Panther. In twenty twenty. And just like again Kobe we had no idea. Obviously, it was coming it was. So suddenly it was a disaster in the air. Over Southern California I had no idea cedric had. Cancer and that's the only difference here. Is that. Gave me pause that this? Totally, put everything that both Chadwick Bozeman had done on the last four or five years and a totally New Light. including visiting Saint Jude Children's research. Hospital. which you know is so near and dear to me. Through run rich run he visited in two thousand and eighteen visiting children with terminal cancer having no idea he was fighting it himself. That he gave of his time of his body of his spirit of his mind. In this way. Not Letting anybody know and leaving this for all of us in his passing to live life to your fullest. And be who you are no matter what's happening in your life. Rest in Peace Chadwick. Bozeman rest in peace. covid nineteen spreading rampantly throughout the world almost one million deaths african-americans hit harder than others double. I'm Jay Jay Green I'm black I'm Chris. I'm white join us on colors are new podcast as Dr Anthony, FAUCI gives us some straight talk about race risks and vaccines on colors. 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New Era

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New Era

"Pardon the interruption but I'm Israel Gutierrez Mike and Phonier off so you've got the B. Team today team more like the F. team as in filling frank baby. Let's do this not so sure. That's a compliment frank. I think they mean something by the EPA team. Tony Techs earlier today said the throat has been plagued with you too much and I aim for horse collecting some of what Lebron set is that your Spiderman talking to your. He's talking about you not me. He's he's okay with me sometimes welcome to P._T._i.. With Wilbon and Kornheiser off I'm joined by my great friend from Miami Very Own. E._S._p._N.'s is very good. Thank you thank you the late here. It wasn't that allow that usually louder for me all right Lebron James of course is reportedly upset with former cavs general manager manager. David Griffin who in a sports illustrated story was quoted as saying that the pressure of building a team around Lebron made him quote miserable Griffin also said Lebron was getting all the credit and none of the blame and quote. That's not fun for People Griffin appeared on the jump today and to his credit. He didn't say he was misquoted but that he did have an issue with how the story was presented Izzy. Do you think Griffin smooth things over with the Bron- today that's an interesting question there whether or not he smooth things over with Lebron Bron I'm not so sure because some of those things that he discussed like Lebron sort of less of being an animal when it comes to winning a championship that that had died down and the way he painted the experience around Lebron. I still think Lebron take some of that personally I think. He says he gets everything yeah. It's my circus but it's because of me. I want to win championships if you can't handle winning championships and the pressure that comes with it that's your problem griff not mine by the way <hes> Lebron did tweet out all right all right enough is enough to thrown has been plagued with too much a handful horse play ether cummings that was before David Griffin before he went on T._v.. Now couple of things number one David Griffin has said this stuff in the past most recently agent origin ask you had him on his podcast and he did talk about the pressures of building a team with Lebron on a one year contract all the time the expectations of you need to win. When you have Lebron that's all true but I think when you are Cherry picking certain quotes out of that story and the story was about the Pelicans you're to the writers credit really was but that's what you're going to do? When you see the words words Lebron James and you're talking about how you miserable in the Brown gets all the credit none of the blame it comes across as you're being ungrateful and I don't think David Griffin wanted to do that because here's the thing with Lebron what happened in Miami they go to the finals all the time? When you burn back to Cleveland they went to the finals and won so yeah this misery attached? I guess what you're winning and Kyrie Irving said the same thing hasn't worked for Kyrie Irving since he left beyond the Lebron stuff. I don't think Griffin made himself look very good when he talked about sort of vet on sustainable model. We're looking Miami. If it wasn't very Chris Bosh blood clots they would have been able to sustain something. You got to make it work but it also again comes with the championship chase you. You have to take one with the other. You can't have both izzy. There were thirty general managers in the N._B._A.. All of them have stress and pressure how many of them would love to have the stress stress and pressure having Lebron James at thirty years old. Rejoin your team though truth right all of them that way. Let's move on to Lebron's good friend Carmelo Anthony who sat with our good friend Stephen a Smith on I take this morning to discuss among other things his break up with the thunder and rockets as well as his continued desire to play in the league this season take a listen is it strikes me that I'm not on the roster along with like due to my talent. I write due to my skill knowing what I could Castilla brings it his game right you. Mini Tummy is thirty teams in the N._B._A.. I can't make a fifteen man Ross out of thirty teams in N._B._A.. That's why that's why I start to bye. Thank about this a lot more thirty teams. I can't make a fifteen man roster. Frank did mellow help his cause at all here. I'm not so sure about that. I think it was smart of him to finally speak he has not played since November hasn't spoken publicly about a situation since November but people had spoken for him. Remember Chauncey billips earlier on Siriusxm Awesome N._B._A.. Radio in July had said that Carmelo used to care more about scoring thirty than winning then. You had his trainer coming out saying Carmelo wants a farewell tour. No one wants to hear that so Carmella did the right thing today going out there and saying I still WANNA play. I believe I can help a team and are willing to take whatever role you give me. This is something probably Carmella should've said a two or three years ago. It's just kind of makes me sad. It just feels like Carmella just wants to be a part of he wants to belong right. He didn't really in Denver because he didn't stick around he gave him you know a a great six. Seven years moved onto the Knicks gave the knicks more of their prime but doesn't really attach himself to one particular team these organizations they make these emotional decision assist with these stars when they have that attachment to them. Nobody else has that attachment to Carmelo now and now he looks at his buddies. Lebron Dwayne Wade all these guys who have championships it doesn't even have signature playoff moments all right so he's right when he says or fifty players I'm not better yeah we get that but first of all very few teams that would take you because you have to be. He wants And he's never going to be just your everyday eighth or ninth guy. It's always going to be Carmelo. Anthony's coming off your bench and it's going to be a different story for him. He wasn't built to be a role player. He's probably a victim some of his own sake. What about Toronto? Maybe what about Philadelphia the Lakers he's got his. There's a bunch of teams that could take them. But why would they other guys play that role. I hope he does play. I still think there's a chance what about you I I I hope I hope he plays small chance. It might take a while. All right football is officially backed the Denver Broncos won Thursday's hall of fame game which featured the debut of broncos rookie quarterback drew lock as well as the new pass interference challenge broncos head coach Vic Fangio who was on the sideline despite suffering from a kidney stone how about at that Fernandez who the first challenge with three nineteen to go in the second quarter Denver quarterback cornerback Lyndon Stevens was called for pass interference. The call by the way was it a pell to this is the first game is what stood out to you what stood out to me is it wasn't as painful as passing kidney stones to watch fame game because there was some intrigue there and I do think the pass interference the penalty was and the review was the most interesting part because if you saw that when and if you're a cornerback you look at that play like wow I did not significantly hinder that player but the call stood it wasn't confirmed it stood and that's the thing about pass interference. It's so subjective I think we're going to get to the point where coaches barely make this challenge. It has to be painfully painfully obvious either a non call or terrible call for you to throw the flag there because you can make the argument that significantly hindering player is different because you think Naveh Games Ames's painfully slow at times. It's really going to slow down the game because you know there and this all goes back to the Saints Rams game and that call should have been a passing it. Here's the thing though Fangio said before the game that he told people I'm going to be the first guy to throw a flag so it's almost like he was waiting by. The way for the good news was Kinda clear that it was pass interference. I just think that he wanted to throw out the here's the thing too it took a minute eighteen seconds for them to review the lane decide that it wasn't pass interference so that's the thing about this challenge. Oh it's going to take for the referees to get used to it and it's GonNa make the Games long does the thing that bothers me frank. I don't think it was clear that it was pass interference. If you WANNA say significantly hindered he put what his arm out sure but they were both sort of tussling he was looking back for the ball and if you were to say if he didn't put his arm down with that receiver have been able to get around him and make that catch no so I can easily make the argument for the other side. I think that's why these calls aren't going to happen or these. Flags aren't going to be thrown as often as people think. What did you think of drew lock seven possessions he had five months? I think it really bad add signed. A second round. Pick doesn't look obvious back and said he needs to be a lot better. I wasn't surprised basically how bad he will not Greek from the hall of Fame Game Potential Hall of Famer still rebuilding himself. That's Panthers qb Cam Newton who now has more shoulder surgeries to than M._v._p.'s or Super Bowl appearances and despite going under the knife again again back in January. Newton warned yesterday not to assume he's back frank. We've seen great. Q._B.'s recover from shoulder issues can cam. I hope hope can because when you think to where he was a few years ago when he led his team to the Super Bowl he was at the top of his game but like you mentioned he's had surgery twice throwing shoulder. That's not good. They have talked about him throwing the ball forty to fifty yards in practice but that's practice. I just wonder if all those years running the ball remember. There was one year we ran one hundred thirty nine times ends up for a quarterback. That was an N._F._l.. Record he has taken a lot of hits. That's why Christian McCaffrey and make is so important in his team. I think he's GonNa get a lot of touch is going to be a lot of short passes running any back with a giant exactly yeah. I think it's reason to be concerned because cam doesn't seem to me like the guy who would throw out those warnings right yeah say hey I'm back doc. I'm Superman like this is Cam Newton but you're talking a second shoulder surgery. You're talking about possibly re sort of structuring his mechanics and everything else he doesn't have the confidence in it and what was he was he an accurate thrower before so now it's even more so on his mind I would be very much concerned unless you surround him with such elite talent at those skill positions that it's GONNA be easy throws for him. I'd be concerned if I'm the Panthers Fan. Not Everybody comes back from this type Andrew Luck. We were freaking out about Andrew Luck for awhile and we're thankful he came back but no idea Cam Newton's going to be the thrower that he even was before and even said which was kind of like a troubling quote he said. I don't even know what one hundred percent feels like anymore. I just think those years of being a battering Graham and that's what it was so impressive about that when he ran the ball he was like middle linebacker running but those Kinda hits catch up to you and your bread and butter now can he be a quarterback that stands in the pocket in throws the ball around and lights up the field. I don't know do you think you can do that. I mean I think he can I think he maybe not lights up the field. He still has to have a threat. He had a great start to last season and you saw the immediate difference when his shoulder was it was hurting him so I still think the healthy feeling the eighty ninety percent Cam Newton can absolutely be great and that's why the panthers have said a lot more touches for Christian McCaffrey Africanus. Maybe throw the halfback option as well all right. Tom Brady turns forty two on Saturday. He's entering the final year of his contract and has hinted that he may WanNa play another three eight years. So why haven't the Patriots give him a contract extension. The Boston Globe reports that restructuring Brady's current deal makes financial sense for the Patriots who can create an an additional four to eight million in cap space and extension is beneficial to both the player and of course the team so is what is the hold up here. Shut out the Bengal in for this It just makes makes me just throw my hands up and say <hes> this. Tom Brady seemed like somebody to you. That's going year by year and it's just going to think about playing next year. Did it seem like a guy who wants to play beyond this. This year absolutely still want supply. Do you think that the Patriots would be wise to say hey. Let's just take it year by year. Hey Mr what at five six rings and just see what you got coming in next issue. This seems like it makes all the sense in the world has the story laid out. They have more cap space if they go ahead and extend. Does it seem like the Patriots are saying well. We don't know if two years from now you're are going to be any good therefore we're not going to extend you and harm ourselves this year by not having more cap space to say get Trent Williams from Washington who doesn't want to be without additional cap space. It could would potentially make a deal like that but let me in Ben does a terrific job on the Patriots but Robert Kraft Bill Belichick. Tom Brady they're connected at they. Don't know this. Why hasn't this happened yet? There must be something now they could still extend him and like we said it makes a lot of sense for them to do that. Do you think that Bill Belichick who let's face it. Bill ballot. Check has as a way of getting rid of a guy before. It's you know one year too late. I don't see him doing that with Tom. Brady I think after what happened last year they believe the Tom Brady could win another super. How can you possibly we do that? It's so bill belichick patriots of him to treat. Tom Brady just like any other player. I don't care if he is a forty two or forty two this weekend quarterback too great age by the way forty two. I've tried it out. I don't care if he is forty. Two years old you have to go ahead and put some faith in this guy unless you believe that jared stood him is just ready to take over starting next year. Amazing is it though that he's forty two years old and the N._F._l.. Players had that survey and he was he rated. I think it should be number one on the list because he you know he won a super bowl Asher. That's pretty remarkable. I used to extend M.. Four guys. Take those Kinda hits forty two years old and he's still stands still throwing my hero it really give him extension and give you want to all right. Let's take a break but coming up is John Harbaugh right that Lamar Jackson could push the entire N._F._l.. Into a new offensive revolution and Jerry Jones says he won't bend for Ezekiel Elliott so what should the running back through now coming up next. David Griffin wants to join us now. It'd be available. I mean what Tom Brady. WanNa join. The Music Time for fill important tells the phone lines are open whose first hey frank hey izzy. I WanNa know if you see Lamar Jackson the Raven Australia and new authentic revolution the N._F._l.. That's what their head coach is saying. I guess that means that Lamar Jackson is going to run a lot more in fact when John Haubert. Nobody was told that a few years ago Cam Newton rushed for one hundred thirty one hundred thirty nine times in one season he said take the old Navy Jackson Lamar Jackson do yourself a favor run out of bounds announce I. I don't know if it's going to be revolutionary. I don't know if it's going to be you know the Golden State Warriors of the N._F._l.. But I can't wait wait to see it. I want to see a team leans into this running quarterback right Greg Room and did it with Colin Kaepernick in the forty niners and Lamar Jackson Michael Vick Yeah Lamar Jackson is one of though he is absolutely different he glides so bad I told you I think it's kind of like what happened in the playoffs last year. Isn't that the one game that sticks out in the N._F._l.. It's still about who can throw the ball you can only run. We just mentioned Cam Newton before have hoped though you know you didn't start later didn't have an engine. It spirals a lot better. I'm telling you I want eight. Watch this. I think he can be steph curry like in the N._F._l.. You think you can't win shooting threes. They can't win running quarterback. You could only run out of bounds. You look like a wizard by the way <hes> by the way who do we got next reporting by August six all right and that's a big now Jerry Jones came out and said I don't have a timetable August six by the way if Ezekiel it doesn't report to camp that means instead of becoming a free agent two years from now. It'll be three years from now but I'm I'm here to tell you the deadline that matters September eight. That's when the cowboys opened their season against New York in that August sixth thing he might not ever get two free agent you try it. He's going to get paid paid at some point. I don't think it means as much to him. I think Zeke basically standing up for all running back because you hear Jerry Jones say you have to put in place more than just a running back to to win a championship but you also have to pay the players most responsible for your success hot big numbers and Ezekiel Elliott is arguably the eve. I was responsible symbol for their size running back in the N._F._l.. After what Levey unbelted Ezekiel smart to do by the way in Nineteen ninety-three Emmett Smith was holding out missed the first two games here. The cowboys lost those first two games. They signed Emmitt Smith. They went onto win the super bowl. They need Zico August though for them to for them to cave it can't can't be a love eon bell situation with James Connor comes in and actually performs. The cowboys need to struggle timber eighth is Zico starting yes or no no I think he will be what have we got next. Franken is the Klay Thompson coming back better and more athletic. How about that one now? Klay Thompson was on E._S._P._N.. He said to say the dynasty is over is a little ignorant because I'm gonNA come back one hundred ten percent. I think I'M GONNA I'm GonNa come back better and even more athletic. It would not be smart to count out the dubs now. I Love Klay Thompson. Play at some point next year. I'm not too worried about him coming back from an A._C._l.. We've seen guys come back from that. Maybe not stronger but at least to their same level I do think he's talking more in the big picture. I don't think he saying hey next year. We're going to have another championship run in him. I think he thinks that that team we with him cl- with him Steph and Draymond can still compete at a high level but in terms of clay. He's almost is getting his wish where you know how people said Hey maybe you wanna see what you're like. As a number one option somewhere else well he's going from a situation where he had Kevin Durant now without Kevin Durant and he can take on more responsibility pretty. Maybe not be a classic number one guy but he come back and say hey look at all these things that I can do that. I was holding back because we had all this talent. Don't count them out and by the way when he does come back that's still the best backcourt in the League steph curry and Klay Thompson. What have we got next? You see that kid Nathan Patterson making the Big League <hes> This is a great story twenty three year old Nathan Nathan Patterson who last pitch when he was in high school showed up bless your national and you have these pitch challenges at the game ninety six miles an hour two weeks of course field he did the same thing as had been tracking him and guess what on Thursday the sign this can now that it's like a Disney store the Disney store and can you imagine he says is like he stopped playing in highschool why he didn't really have a great arm then what so now at twenty three year casually throwing ninety four ninety five ninety six if he can go from and I don't really have a great arm in high school too at this stage being signed by Major League Baseball team. This guy's seriously got some potential here. No well here would be my only thing is. Is there any movement on the ball because if you're throwing it straight and flat it's going to get hit out of the park but come on that is a cool story when you show up a games. What are you throwing? Oh Oh I don't throw it all. Can you throw it. Can you get to sixty five bounces seventy. When I went bowling by the way I wanted to be a twenty while he was sort of playing an erect league and just trying to warm arm got hit by a car broke his hurt his wrist or whatever I mean this guy had them with the cast on? That's still a great story all right the phone lines are closed. Let's take one one last week but still to come Kevin Durant. He's off crutches. Look at them to the nets razor expectation and is Derek Carr being presumptuous by buying a Las Vegas House next stored at Jon Gruden always lived there. Even if it gets cut they really need a house in Vegas just hop from place to place <music>. 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The Ocho: How much would you pay Zeke?

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The Ocho: How much would you pay Zeke?

"What up world welcome to another episode of the ocho presented you in partnership as always with nations blog on the boys dot com my name marjo show oh you know me of course from b._t. Be and from right here as you're humble host on the oh joe it is friday august twenty third two thousand nineteen and we hope that you were having a fantastic tastic day whatever you got going on every listening to this up your day's going great. It's either about to the weekend and already is the weekend and speaking of whenever you listen under this. We've done our best you know. We've got a lot of requests to get episodes out early in the mornings <hes> so we've had the ocho coming out first thing in the mornings. It's right in your podcast. Feed as soon as you wake up unless you're a night owl of course so if you like that let me know hit me up on twitter at shoot me an email jay chou at s._p. Nation dot com remember to subscribe subscribed to belong to the boys podcast feed. 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It's so hard to understand why these things happen in life obviously and i'm not a philosopher i have my own faith and <hes> my own things that i believe in and i'm sure you do too but our thoughts our prayers our our our best wishes possible to offenburg family at this time jason garrett it spoke very powerfully of law fienberg on thursday during a press conference. He was very emotional. You can watch that on dallas cowboys dot com or any of their streaming streaming platforms and in the app and again just our deepest condolences to lukla offenburg no parent should ever have to have to go through that sort of pain <music> but moving on as best as we can football season is approaching. It is friday the twenty third which means next week friday august thirtieth is my first high school game of the year. If you're unaware i do high school football commentary with jason mix. You know obviously e._s._p._n. San antonio we carry carry the high school game of the week on friday nights and jason. I this is our third year together in the booth so very excited we get things going with brandeis and johnson johnson here in district twenty six eighty in san antonio will be added heroes stadium very excited. Peanut butter bowl is is what it's called if you out of san antonio local so i'm pumped. I love doing high school football. I a lot of people are always shocked. I didn't play football in high school. I never really played football at any peewee level and i was on the drumline in highschool so i certainly went to a lot of football games but never really was a part of the football element of it as you can imagine so i've really enjoyed getting to be a part of that and if you do listen to our broadcast twelve fifty a._m. Ninety four five f._m. You can listen on the go at e._s._p._n. Essay dot com <hes> <hes> before the games. I do coach interview. I go grab the head coach of both teams that are play into that game and just kind of talk to them about what they're expecting. They've been going through all week and i have loved that right. I mean it is it is a different kind of obama and if you if you live in texas if you grew up in texas you get it and if you don't you always hear people talk about texas high school football high go football i it's true i mean there are a lot of cliches in life that don't really kinda live up to what they are. Texas high school football means so much and it is so much fun to be a part of sam very excited to have that going and football season is here college. Football gets going on saturday and i would love to see the you win. I went to texas a. and m. University hullaballoo connec giga maybe class twenty twelve but <hes> i enjoy rooting for historic programs. I enjoy enjoy seeing you know programs that are rich in college. Football history do well. It's while i'm always kind of pulling for michigan do well. I think this is their year. I'm rooting for notre dame him to do. Well teams like the you wanna see. You know college. Football staples be great. That's what what makes you know. That's why we fell in love with the game whenever we did and so as much which is how would like to see the hurricanes win. I don't think that's happening on saturday in week zero. I think the gators get this done and i know that tim tebow was going. Forgive or either did give a speech that is give me florida by thousand if that's the case but so college football's coming back high school football on the way <hes> as it is friday two weeks from today we will be two days away from the dallas cowboys beginning their regular season against the new york giants at home a._t. And t. stadium the cowboys how is actually play at a._t. And t. stadium for three weeks in a row because they've got the houston texans tomorrow on saturday for the all important dress rehearsal. They have the tampa bay. Buccaneers can years in the preseason finale next week and then of course the regular season opener so we've got some a._t. And t. stadium action coming away. It's gonna feel good to see the cowboys play some foosball and jerry world and this has been an interesting week for the cowboys drilling interesting week for narratives and for discussions and for arguing for all sorts of points etc and you look at it and last week was kind of the way with everything that happened <hes> with regards to the forty million in excetera blah blah blah. This week was was kind of the other stuff week. You know jalen smith got his big contract extension and that was a big big deal obviously and then thursday was kind of the day of zeke even though nothing happened thursday was kind of the date of zeke because as we all know ezekiel elliott still not with the dallas cowboys we're still holding out didn't participate in any of the training camp period or portion that took place in oxnard hasn't played in the first two preseason games still hasn't been seen while the team is at the star in frisco. Oh and in spite of all of that there does seem to be this level of confidence right. I mean there's always going to show up one right. We're now we're n._f._l. Network's ian rappaport reported this week that melvin gordon is likely going to continue his holdout in the regular season and the fact that we haven't heard stuff like that from zeke. I know this situation's different different in terms of melvin gordon being final year of his contract and all that but the fact that we haven't heard that about zeke is certainly confident. Excuse me certainly gives you confidence but in terms of reports there were two on thursday to kind of. I think we're a big deal to reports kind of put people in a place of whoa i kind of and if you want we'll call doing a half reports. The first one came thursday morning on e._s._p._n. Get up e._s._p._n. Reporter jeff darlington was on get up and he talked about something that his source told him that kind of had him believing that you know this is definitely going to get done from. E._s._p._n.'s get up on thursday morning from what i understand. This deal is getting done. I was speaking with the source who's been nails on this. Since the beginning we said three months ago that elliott would hold out and was the first person out there saying it would happen happen and he's saying to me right now if you look at this situation for zeke even if he doesn't get todd gurley money even if he gets out levian bell. Maybe get to deal just a hair above that. This is a win for ezekiel elliott so that's great news to hear and that kind of got the day started and everybody was wondering okay. What does that mean in in a weird way this kind of flew under under the radar. There weren't a whole lot of people noticed. This isn't an unintended shot at get up. I know that shows had whatever tad but ah not. Everybody watches more television. People are at work. People got jobs that do people got things going on but this was an interesting report again came from e._s._p._n.'s jeff darlington later later in the day okay. This is where everything kind of started getting cooking a little bit later in the day on thursday afternoon e._s._p._n.'s edward by the way. I don't think we've said you know on the blog. Aww podcasts vida a big hearty congratulations to edward for his reunion with e._s._p._n. Obviously that story is well told it's great seeing at back. It feels normal. Shows natural fields right. E._s._p._n.'s ed water is twitter handles changed a bit through all this it is now at e._s._p._n. Tweeted about one o'clock clock on thursday sources the most recent offer negotiations between holdout ezekiel elliott and the cowboys came from the team elliott has been offered a contract attract making him one of the n._f._l.'s to highest paid running backs that would suggest team offering more than levian bell and less than todd gurley this information this report report this tweet corroborates what jeff darlington said on get up on thursday mornings just a few hours earlier that you know hey. He's getting more than levian bell and if you're curious you don't remember the the numbers you don't wanna look them up off. Whatever by the way you can look them up at blogging the boys dot com. You know i got you covered levian. Bell signed a contract. This offseason with the new york jets todd argonne scientists contract extension with the los angeles rams last year and i've said this before that i don't think the rams are getting enough grief for what happened. Okay i. I don't think the rams are getting enough grief because they kind of built this problem. They kind of set this precedent. The rams were the first team who gave leave a running back drafted in the first in terms of recent history a contract extension following his third season. Nobody seems to be giving them grab for that. The rams did that and now the dallas scouser facing that problem with ezekiel elliott next year christian mccaffrey and the carolina panthers as an problem a year after that saquon barkley johnson be facing that problem. I don't understand understand how the rams have gotten by without any responsibility being placed on their shoulders. I have a lot of thoughts on this so before we get to the rest of them. Let's take a quick break in here award from our sponsor. This episode is brought to you by c._b._s. Sports h._q. So much of sports t._v. nowadays full of made up trauma. It's a bunch of hot takes from people who going to believe what they're saying just beating the same topics into the ground but c._b._s. Sports h._q. Is here to change all that. It's a network that streams live twenty four seven in their coverage which is just focused on the game. 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The los angeles rams right before training camp season started fifty seven and a half million dollars in terms of total value that puts him at fourteen point three seven seven five million per year. If you want to round up fourteen point four million dollars per year forty five million dollars total guaranteed so we're talking about less than this and again the guarantees seventies incentives and all that stuff is is really unknown but we're talking in general sensors. We're talking about less than fifty seven and a half in terms of total value and less i and fourteen point four in terms of annual average value now levey unbelted deal and we all know the levy on a lot of people have tried to equate to levy on bell in that situation not the same into libyans credit. He did play on the franchise tag. We've had this conversation two thousand times but levian finally signed his deal with the new york jets and by the way on my fantasy team had my draft this week. Got me some levy. I'm out pretty pumped pumped because it actually came down to levy on bell versus todd gurley early to be a little selfish here for a second and i did not want any part of todd gurley. I think he's a talented runner. Injury terrifies me from fantasy perspective so i i was very pleased that love eon bell to me in my league of record. If you've listened to the ocho you've heard lots of my league mates. My dad is in our league big. Jimmy johns who will probably join us at one point either right before or after the houston texans preseason games in our league my buddy. Noah dixon is in our early. You go nowhere jimmy and i m. I mentioned that at the top so <hes> this is our tenth seasons. I've got two titles. It's tied for the most in league history gone for that third. Hopefully levian helps me but anyway levian has a deal where fifty two and a half million dollars in terms of total value that is five million dollars less in terms of total value now you then todd growing so we're talking about a window of five million dollars total value somewhere there for zeke elliott landon watt todd grows dealers for fourteen point four million dollars per year levy on bells. Els is for only and i'm using that word facetiously thirteen point my call at one thirteen point one two five million dollars per year so maybe zeke somewhere thirteen and a half ride third. I heard something like that like that feels kind of safe or somewhere between basically thirteen and fourteen and while todd gurley got forty five million dollars total guaranteed levian bell got got thirty five million dollars total guaranteed so maybe you know kind of if i had to guess you know and this is purely guess. Nobody told me anything. No one said sources whatsoever. This is just r. j. o. Joa coming from god. I would guess from a mathematical perspective here. The potential contract offer that the dallas cowboys have given zeke elliott elliot according to e._s._p._n.'s edward r and e._s._p._n.'s jeff darlington is something like fifty four million dollars in terms of total value and thirteen and and a half million dollars per year. Maybe forty million dollars total guaranteed. Is that a lot of money to pay running back absolutely and i totally get it if you're against. I totally get it if you don't believe in that i totally get it. If you are just it makes your skin crawl the idea of paying a running back the reality though is that's very fair for zeke okay. That's very very fair and the reason i say this is a point that joe thomas former cleveland browns left tackle. Now does a tomahawk show and he's a great follow on twitter kc point. He raised it. A lot of people have raised. Zeke technically deserves to be paid like the best running back in the n._f._l. And i know that you don't wanna pay that i know yeah but if we're talking about a world of objectivity if we're talking about a world driven by data if we're talking about a world based on statistical evidence zeke absolutely absolutely deserves to be paid like the n._f._l.'s best running back and maybe you don't want to couch to be that team but if it was my job to make sure that zeke elliott got as much money money as possible. I would not settle for anything less than the most in the n._f._l. Because zeke's resume outshines todd girls it outshines levy on bells it outshines christian mccaffrey's shines barclays only been in the n._f._l. One-season but you get my point. He has a resume that is incredible. He's led the league in rushing to the last three seasons. He's been the engine that's propelled his offense and his team to division titles in those two seasons to the divisional round in both of those two seasons yes he's had off the field incidents that are scary and warrant consideration ration- and could potentially justify paying a little bit less than his onfield statistics would deny he deserves but the fact remains that he is an incredible football player and so you have to honestly consider the fact that he deserves to be paid like the highest paid running back on the n._f._l. So all that being said okay all of that being said if i can pay him like the league's second-best running back in the n._f._l. I'm doing that because that's technically good value. That is technically paying less than what what in this case zeke is worth. I mean if if i had to buy a new car and i hate drying up analogy. It's like this but it's friday so i feel weird if i had to buy a new car and you you told me the car was forty thousand dollars the list price that's what it was going for aren't even know what all the things are called carfax and whatever all the commercials it was going forty thousand forty thousand forty thousand forty forty thousand and i didn't want to buy a new car maybe on the fence whatever but all of a sudden i could get it for like thirty four thousand dollars. Hey all of a sudden. I'm way more interested in this car because i can get it for less less than it is. Worth less than the market rate that is a point that people have when it comes to dak prescott do not want to pay the market rate pay him thirty two million dollars. I'm not paying thirty thirty five. I'm not paying market. I'll pay a little bit less. That's what you're paying was. The you're paying a little bit less than market rate which is kind of incredible given his resume is so so much better than todd girls so if this is true if all this is true and again you know jeff johnson and edward both fantastic reporters if all this this is true my gut feeling again. I talked about my gut low while ago. My gut feeling is that we're close okay because when you start to hear things like this coming <music> now when you start to hear actual dollar values coming out like we heard what dak prescott last week that's why i think the cowboys are closer to when you start to hear actual dollar values use were flying closer to sign all right. We're getting close. People are talking phones are ringing and text messages or fine. E._m.'s are happening slides. Going on things are close close when you start to hear actual numbers and if you don't believe me maybe you'll believe antonio bryant. That's right baby. Antonio bryant make news. He predicted. It'd patrick peterson getting traded to kansas city chiefs antonio bryant on twitter at a. B. eighty nine antonio bryant had a tweet on thursday evening evening or he said her zeke gonna sign his deal soon and play week one with the bag emoji and i don't mean like a just a bag like a shopping. I'm in a bag of cash like scrooge mcduck bag and look antonio bryant is technically somebody who's broken okay awesome n._f._l. News to a degree before the show bobby belt pointed out that antonio bryant the day before russell wilson signed his extension to become the highest s._p. Play on the n._f._l. Antonio brian headed tweet that read come on man. The seahawks aren't trading russell wilson. 'cause remember people thought they were gonna trade him to giants <hes> he will be the highest paid player in the n._f._l. By midnight tonight you heard it here first and then of course we've got the video cr that everybody had some fun with etc so antonio bryant has has a little bit of room to stand on when it comes to this stuff so antonio bryant said it's going to happen so again. I think that i think that there are talks happening and i think that it makes sense to believe that because we're two weeks out next week is the final week of the preseason and that means nothing but that's enough time to talk to you can kind of formulate a game plan and then obviously you want you can go for you know monday of week. One as you get ready to host new york giants yeah. That's that's the way it's going to be. That's the way it makes sense. That's the way you know given the way. The situation has unfolded. I also think jerry's ever earned the right to joke zeke. I mean tension and leads to arguments. We've all been all been stressful had arguments with friends and family and loved ones whatever tension leads to arguments but arguments oftentimes solutions and maybe that's where jerry jones zeke elliot and and i'm talking about the entities that they're involved with them. They represent. Maybe the the whole joe thing kind of served as this. It's like you know catalysts. That helped really kind of push things over the edge that held everything kinda. Get going to gut. This tardy started god zeke elliott back with the dallas cowboys. At least we can all certainly hope so. All i know is today is friday. Is you're listening to this. It is friday august twenty third. Be a good time for friday news dump yup. That's all i know. It's a good time for friday news. Dump maybe start your and then you can have you can see it. Honestly you can see you know. Jerry jones and everybody coming back and a._t. And t. stadium on saturday night against the houston texans zeke is there and his jersey in some flower seeds or whatever chew gum doing an interview with lindsay draper and in celebrating being back cetera you can see it. You'd be close your eyes and imagine hard enough. You can see it so hopefully that's what it comes if at all if not taboo figure something out and by the way zeke does sign later today on friday you can bet your bottom dollar my friends we will have an emergency podcast episode of the ocho to discuss it all also also have you covered of course at blog on the boys dot com like we always do your home for the best the absolute numero uno best coverage the dallas cowboys on the whole interwebs makes you check us out blog on the boys dot com follow us on twitter dot com at blog in the boys like us on the book of faces. Follow us on the graham. Follow me on twitter at our go. 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Hour 2: Adam Schefter joins

"You may have heard Joel Embiid changed his nickname from the process to Hulu has lost sports. There's got to be the most blatant form of advertising I've ever seen. Sources tell me that who Lewis page oil a lot of money to tell you that you can watch your favorite teams and the biggest games live on Hulu all with no cable required. Start your free trial day live TV plan required for live content. Restrictions apply. Learn more at Hulu dot com. This is the Stephen a Smith show podcast. Schefter who will come on? And talk to us about an abundance of NFL news that has taken place over the last several days or so so looking forward to having that conversation with him he'll be on the line with us any minute. But until he arrives is he there because I'm seeing he's there to add our we don't have to wait, Adam Schefter is there right now. My man what's going on? How are you? Stephen. Hey, how're you doing my friend? How are you buddy? How's everything man is always good to talk to you? And by the way, great great great feature profile on you, buy real sports HBO. I watched I watched that one thought you was very humbly. They do tremendous job and John Franko and Chapman downs, the producer that a great job. And I was tried and honor to be profiled on a show that I've I've always watched and always admired where you definitely deserve to make no mistake about it. We're talking to Adam Schefter, the great Adam Schefter right here was ESPN radio. ESPN news. All right. Let's get right to some NFL news. Your broken this morning Korean haunt being suspended for eight games by Commissioner Roger Goodell. Take us to take us through the process that led up to the eight games as opposed to six games or even ten games getting spent for the season. Why did they come out or do they come to the conclusion of an eight game suspension? Well, Stephen, they I think that honestly I have been hearing during the season that it could be ten to twelve games. And I think what happens here in. The course of the discussions is Kareem hunt went to the league office sat down with Commissioner. He's been in anger management counseling since the chiefs released him. He's been in alcohol counseling since the chiefs released these tried to take the steps that he believed he needed to to gain entry back into the league and to have this suspension be as short as possible. And I think in this particular case, what happened is I don't know this. I'm speculating be that I kept hearing it's going to be ten twelve games. It wouldn't surprise me during the course of the conversations with Kareem and his legal team. The said, look we're gonna suspend this guy twelve games. And and they said, well, we don't think that's fair. We think it should be four to six games. And and they said, well, we don't want to go through this long drawn out appeal process and have this be on sportscenter every single day throughout the spring and summer. What if we come up with a happy medium, and it feels comfortable with eight or are you comfortable date? Yes, we're comfortable. They and they come to that. So that he doesn't appeal it which is not and everybody just goes on. They turn the page. The NFL announces it on a Friday and the busiest week of the league year when the college basketball is on ESPN round the clock and everybody just wants to move on from it. It's hard to forget the images of Kareem hunt pushing and shoving a woman man, you always have to wonder about her. And now she's doing, and it will always be a part of his resume and his character. And I think he's trying to go from that. And you hope that the woman is okay from that. But the league felt like with his cooperation in this case in in not appealing. I guess is that it was going to be longer and with the lack of appeal. Everybody was good on signing off at eight. Did the NFL reached the conclusion that he'd been he may have been a bit of Nieve raided? He had been drinking at that particular moment in time when this all hap-. I don't know that they reached that conclusion. But I think that it's fair to say Stephen a whether it was that night or the other two incidents that he was involved in 'cause keeping buying there were three separate incidents that the league looked into investigated review documents for interviewing witnesses there were three incidents over the course of a calendar year that involve Crema, I think that the league deduced that alcohol played a role in this. How much I don't know out of a part of it and part of it. And that's why he's going through alcohol counseling now out of stuff to one of the reasons why I'm shocked that it was just eight games. As is in this regard. If they're doing their investigation, I'm looking at the fact that the Kansas City Chiefs have basically let it be known that they were lied to that he lied to their face. And I think that at times that those are the kind of things that ultimately count against you. When somebody is trying to make a decision on what level what level of punishment you deserve. Me day second. Yes. But he paid the price for the line from the Kansas City Chiefs. That's why when the video surfaced on Friday November thirtieth and it surfaced. If my memory serves me correctly, the video came out about two three o'clock in the afternoon and by five or six that night. He was released. Yeah. And the reason he was released was because he liked the chiefs the NFL doesn't factor. Whether he lied to the cheeks into its decision about how long Kareem on is going to be disciplined for they're looking at three separate incidents that chiefs took the action they did to a certain extent because he'd like them. He wasn't honest to them and the chiefs couldn't live with that. With the guy that basically misled is employers. So he was released in Kansas City. And now the NFL conducted its investigation based on the fact that there were three separate incidents of violence. Alleged violence of video of pushing and kicking the woman of assault or whatever it may be alcohol and so the league determine from those three separate investigations that Kareem hunt deserved an eight-game suspension him wind. The chiefs had nothing to do with the NFL's decision. Adam Schefter right here with Steven eight years PIN radio ESPN news with that being said, what kind of fall out if any at all does the NFL in -ticipant, come co-, the NFL may anticipate comes their way in light of the fact that it was just a games. Well, I think you read the comments on social media. See people saying, oh, Zeke Elliott, get six games. There was no video. There was no evidence or even though people had different suspicions. He got six games. There's a queer video for cream aunt there is a clear video on one incident. There were two other incidents. He gets eight games. Now. I think the one thing that we've seen over time. Stephen A is that you basically get separate the league has basically increased its discipline on certain crimes instances, all those things. And so that's that's that's what happens here and the league is basically not giving the benefit of the doubt to the player anymore. And that's what happened here. And by the way, shepherd note of the books just agreed to turns with Shaq Barrett on a one year deal. Okay. Five million dollars a small deal, and it's separate there separate from. I'm a very serious conversation. But just got the Texan wanted to show. Understood I want to transition to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Anyway, that was one of the teams I was going to ask you about to leave there. You know, I appreciate it, Adam Schefter. They let go of the show on Jackson. Obviously, they moved him onto the Philadelphia Eagles. They didn't want to guarantee him ten million for this upcoming season. They couldn't reach an agreement. He's happier than ever because he's happy to be back in Philadelphia. What do you anticipate? Or what are they telling you about what they want to do in Tampa? And the reason I asked that question because people look at them, and they're struggling with the fact that Bruce areas comes on board and places so much faith in James Winston when it was clear they looked better with Ryan Fitzpatrick earlier on in the season talk to me about what you're hearing about Tampa. And what their mindset is. Well, listen, I think that one of the reasons they hire Bruce Arians is because he believes in James Winston and James Winston believes in Bruce Arians and they worked together at Bruce Arians football camp in Alabama back in the day. When James was an eighth grade. And there's always been a mutual respect and admiration between those two men, and they know that if Jameis Winston. Gets turned around. And by the way, they believed that him as an organization before they hire Bruce Arians. They believed that he was worked salvaging. They believed that he was worth saving. They believe that he was gonna turn it around. And basically it's a situation that they thought this was the guy that could make James Winston be the best James Winston. There could be and so he goes in Stanford quarterback and they count on him to get the best that Jamison. And that's where they're right now. Staying within the NFC, Adam Schefter, the biggest news. Arguably of the week was LDL Beckham junior being traded from the New York Giants to the Cleveland Browns. They gave up they got a first round pick a third round pick, you know, and obviously Djibril peppers in return safety, whatever's in return talk to us about why the giants really really traded Odell Beckham. Julia at this point, I think it's pretty simple Steven if we go back to last year one year ago. Before the NFL owners meetings. The giants made it abundantly clear to other teams that basically. Odell Beckham junior was for sale and that if anybody wanted to give them to I fix. They were gonna move 'em. Nobody at that time was willing to give them to once. And so they held onto him. And they sold the way that he interacted with their new coach Pat Shurmur way, he was a good citizen at a time. When many people were staying away from off season programs minicamps it came in. He was on his best behavior last summer and got the new deal that he wanted in craved. And then after that there were instances where I think the giants were unhappy, and I go back to the interview he did where he wondered aloud whether he wanted to play New York question the offense question the quarterback got hurt again team than win team produced as much without him as it did with him. And I think the giants just got right back to the same place. They were one year ago where they said, we're probably. Better off without him than we are with him. That's what they believe us. Now. We'll get where we're gonna find out whether or not there, right? And it seems like all of New York can't stand. Dave Gettleman over this trait and everybody in New York is baffled as to why they would do it. Now, I understand why they would move on. I would just say this to you. I'm surprised they did this trade now early in March rather than a week from now two weeks from now right before the draft because I can tell you for a fact that there were other teams out there that made what they thought were better offers than the giants. And so what was the rush to take a one and a three and Gebreel peppers are more twelve as opposed to getting even more if they could on April twelfth, that's the one thing that I'm confused by. But I don't think there's any doubt that the giants were opened. Moving on from Odell Beckham junior when the calls came in this off season. And they did make no mistake about it. The giants listened to every one of them. And they never said to anybody that called. We're not treating that guy. We're not dealing if it team called the giants today for saquon Barkley. What would be the judge reaction the blue still make they probably hang up on. They probably hang. Okay. So why do they engage multiple teams over and over throughout the course of this book? But that's not going. That's where I'm getting. I don't and I don't believe that they they initiated those close ever. I really don't. But there were teams coin them. And as I said this week on sportscenter they were not shopping Odell Beckham junior. But they absolutely were listening on Odell Beckham junior and the Cleveland Browns came along. And I think those conversations started long before this week, and we can even go back to is recently last week when the two sides agreed to trade coming Zeiler for Levin Vernon and there were ongoing talks between the Browns and giants that resulted in the trade this week that I think all New York aided Adam Schefter. I've no one is more quipped to answer this next question than you. I threw this out. I didn't speak to anybody. Pure speculation. Just based on looking at the tea leaves in watching the NFL and thinking about what the relationship is with ally. Manning the thirty seven. Yield quarterback two time SuperBowl champion quarterback for the New York. Giants who clearly is not what it used to be. But his relationship with the New York Giants if ally manning wanted Odell Beckham junior with the giants is oh Beckham junior. Cleveland Brown today. Yeah. I don't think that matters. Okay. I really don't. I don't think that's factors. Interesting. Do you think that he'll manning? Here's the kind of personality that he would go to the front office to say, I want this guy dealt or I want this. No, no, no. No, no. That's not what that's not what I didn't. I did not say that at all. I'm not a casting alive. I'm simply make I'm going in reverse. I'm saying if Ilan manning setup up Dan said, this guy's imported to me, he's valuable to me. I don't want him going anywhere with the giants have made that move. That's what I'm asking number one. That would be an uneasy lie thing for him to do fair enough number two. She just wouldn't do that. He he law. Manning is a pro I believe stays in his lane. He's not telling the front office work to do. And what not to do just like Tom Brady is not doing that New England. He's not going to Bill Belichick and say boy, I really wanna know a wide receiver. Why didn't you trade Frodo Beckham junior? He's not saying boy, get rid of Chris HOGAN struggle this. That's not happening. So I think these quarter now that's not true every quarterback. Okay. I know those guys I believe or pros who stay in their lane and know their place. Okay. And different people have different approaches to different ideas like that. And I don't think you'll have it ever do that. And he ended up. He did. I don't think that they would listen, I think that they've got and John Mara impact. Shurmur? They will do what's best for the giants. No matter what their quarterback Daunte. Now if you went to. During the season. This year guy's got it it it's tough out here. Like, we don't get enough perceive. As can we get some helping you got a we're gonna try to help you. But they would be smart enough to recognize what he knows. Adam Schefter right here with Steven ESPN radio. ESPN news. Let me transition to the AFC Adam Schefter with the Pittsburgh Steelers because their best wide receive Antonio Brown is not is now in Oakland raider their best running back levian bell. Is now a New York jet when you look at the Pittsburgh Steelers, particularly considering what you just said about ally. Manning, how are we all look at that situation in Pittsburgh, particularly as it pertains to Big Ben Rothlisberger. Mike Tomlin in light of Jesse James going to Detroit speaking out against a against the team in terms of its dysfunctional tendencies Levy on bell sitting out last season. We know why Antonio Brown, creating a ruckus he created to get up out of Pittsburgh. How are we supposed to look at the Pittsburgh Steelers today? Well, I think there they were interesting point in their history. It's it's a situation where basically, and you're just dealing with a lot of different things here. Stephen is and don't worry about it. So I think that. One year ago. This team is built around. Ben, rob is pretty killer bees. Ben Rothlisberger living on twenty or Brown. Now. The two best playmakers in your team or in separate places. And I think if you're a team and the two best playmakers on your team won out and wound up in different places. I think that that merits discussion and scrutiny and questioning within to say why did I guys one out? Why do they not want to be your what's going on? What's wrong? What do we need to address and fix and they're not thinking of? So scouting. And so. they're not operating, honestly and transparently because clearly there are issues and there's something wrong when two guys one out like that. Now, I'm not excusing Antonio Brown for what he did in the following week going AWOL and living on bell. Probably should've taken that deal. When it was offered. But there were such animosity that built up with the way the offense of one talked about living on Bill between Antonio Brandon Ben Rothlisberger. Who knows who's right and who's wrong. But the one thing that I can say is wrong is what was going on in Pittsburgh with the culture that seems to be wrong. There seems to be swimming. And by the way, they lose Antonio Brown and Levy on Bill and then lose Jesse James to Detroit. And all by the way, we've got a situation where they also lost one of the best offensive line coaches. And the game Mon check who left to go. Take a similar job in Denver. And yes, he's got a daughter who lives out there. Yes. It's easier for family, but he's still left when he'd been Pittsburgh for awhile. So it's just interesting that they're in a spot where so many people did leave some key people. And they've got some excellent people that they'll now be leaving on Dame's Connors, a great running back to use misuse turns. Great receiver no team is that a better job than the Steelers at uncovering talent at wide receiver in the mid rounds of the draft every year, they seem to find somebody. They're amazing that, but that's a real issues that they gotta figure out there. While let you get on outta here. Look Levy on bell going back to him in New York. He wanted to basically changed the market. He didn't want to be paid as a running back. He wanted to be recognized as an all purpose back that did do things in terms of running and catching the football. And he definitely was looking for more than sixteen million a year. He ends up with thirty five million guaranteed. Fifty two point five million dollar deal. He's still paying being paid less than Todd Gurley. He went in all of this in the end, love EON bell. Was it worth it from? Listen, I I think I think the simple minded approaches say, oh, you lost out on that money and you'll never get back that fourteen and a half million, and there's an element of truth to that. Right. But who knows what drives a guy right like if you played last year was to say the Pittsburgh winter run them into the ground. He wouldn't have four or more carries. He might have got an ACL who knows what happened through for forty nine. Then they wouldn't have gotten to thirty five million guaranteed this off season more the numbers better from Pittsburgh on the deal. They offered last year than the deal. Yes, they were. Okay. Should he take it probably? But he said he regretted now is he being proud. I'm sure there's no truth to that. But how do we know? You know, what I you don't wanna go back there. How do we know that he didn't wanna play on the offensive line that kinda mocked him? How do we know that they weren't like everybody gets to do what they want with your life last question. Yeah. That's what he chose. That's really chose. Last question for you. Switch into the draft. Is it a foregone conclusion at column Murray is going to be the number one overall pick take? I never want to say foregone anything with the dress like that, you know that. That's just a mistake to do that when we are six weeks out of the dress. Like, do I think that column or is squaring the conversation for the number one pick? Yes. If I had a dollar today when I bet it's calamari. Yes. Do I think things could sure I mean, but I think right now the new breadcrumbs lead us to calamari at one now whether that comes off six weeks from now, we'll see. But I think that's the way it's tracking right now. And we'll see if Arizona itself comes to that conclusion as well out of shaft, always appreciate the great work, buddy. Thank you so much taking time out of your very, very big. Let's just got it. Thanks for having me. We have a great weekend. All right, buddy. You do the same and say Hello to your family that beautiful wonderful daughter. Yours was what a great coach. She is. She is special. Thanks a lot buddy. You take. All right. The one and only Adam Schefter right here with Steven A ESPN radio. ESPN news inundate say ESPN is edited. Eight seven to nine three seven seven six. You're listening lobster Stephen Smith show ESPN radio ESPN news, by the way. If you haven't tried to delicious high-quality meat from butcher box. You're gonna be blown away. But tha box brings you to meet the way, it's meant to be. 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Tune in Sunday as Joel Embiid and Philadelphia seventy Sixers visit Yoenis the Greek freak and Tacoma bowl. The Milwaukee Bucks presented by indeed coverage begins at three PM eastern on most ESPN. Radio stations back to the phones we go. Justin. You'll obviously they what's up. Hey, what's up, Steven? Thanks for having me. I was calling about the cream hunt suspension. Yes, sir. Whether you whether you like it or not, you know, he's taking the, you know, the eight games when he comes back. He's gonna be fresh. He's fresh ready to agree. I think I think the if you take a look at their suspension policy. I think you know, if they're just suspend players for whatever it may be they need to take the suspension of the last of you know, that the regular season. No because you can't just think about the individual and how it's gonna affect him. You have to think about the team the team doesn't deserve to suffer because of the transgression of one player. So, you know, the bottom line is missing the first eight games you want him to miss the last eight games because it would serve him best to miss those games. Well, you know, what one why don't you just suspend them the whole season? And just do it that way as opposed to send a suspend them the last eight games of the season. But have them around for the first eight games. Season. Two teams don't deserve that. They didn't do what he did those were his actions. Not there's correct it is. But there's. He took the first four games. The first one is exactly not the last four games. That's the point. Cricket courts different though. He took the way the point is the team didn't deserve him to take the last four games. If Tom Brady indeed was guilty of deflated footballs. And by the way, I've seen no concrete evidence. That says that the bottom line is this the it would have been the actions of his own not of the New England Patriots. And if that's the case the team does not deserve to suffer anymore than suffering without that player for X amount of games, or whatever you don't suspense buy it for the last. Let's stick around for the first twelve weeks. They'd get rid of in the last four games. You don't do that. Yeah. But that might say they might serve Moore's at the Turk. Oh, no, no, no. It would it. The point is you're forcing others to suffer be unnecessarily so because of the transgressions of once selfish individual nobody deserves that have a nice day. Julian you live, Stephen what's up. Stephen, anyhow, you're right. I'm listening. Go ahead. All right. So my question is is do you think that Kareem hunt hunt situation will be similar to Kobe Bryant? Do you think someday that if he keeps on winning and possibly when's the Super Bowl with the Cleveland Browns? Do you think you'll be able to overcome this situation? Well, first of all. Mentioned Kareem hunt in the same breath is Kobe Bryant as sacrilegious Kobe. Bryant is one of the greatest players who have ever lived matter of fact, somebody that's under appreciated in these this Dan age because all we talk about LeBron compared to Michael Jordan. We just forget about Kobe, and the fact that this is next to Michael Jordan. He's the greatest off guard that ever played the game basketball is five-time champion. That's number one number two when we talk about his transgressions, or whatever the case may be remember that Kobe Bryant religiously and continuously in legally proclaimed, his innocence, they settled out of court. There was never any guilt attached to Kobe Bryant. There was a settlement out of court that by the way didn't evolve any jail time whatsoever. Because he went to trial to fight it because he said, it was consensual and he did not home. Anybody? Number three, Kareem hunt is caught on video video. So video would call almost there's video were Ray rice this video with Kareem hunt. Kareem hunt is caught on video. You don't you believe? Leave something about Kobe. What have you seen because the fact that the is there is no evidence about Kobe is one person's word against his any Ford illegally. And ultimately a settlement was reached. But there's no evidence against him. There's evidence it gets Kareem hunt to the point where he wouldn't even think about appealing a matter of fact, there's enough evidence against Kareem on where we're questioned law enforcement officials in Cleveland and to why he was never arrested. Right. Do you think though if you win the Super Bowl with the Cleveland Browns? Do you think though overshadow this incident with him? Yes. Eventually, yes. Eventually if he played lights out you would never forget it. But what people move on. Yes, they're going to move on the second. He gets back to the field. Appreciate the call show on you lava Stephen eight what's up. How you doing sleeping, right? Go ahead. All right. Oh about Kareem situation. I was just wondering. The Dan the dynamic so that would odeal Beckham and Landry. And then you have a scrambling quarterback. There you think that they they actually own the AFC possibly make it to the Super Bowl. I just think that the patriots have to be the favorites. Until further notice. I think the best thing that you could say about the Cleveland Browns right now is that you expect them to make the playoffs with the roster that they have live your Vernon with my Jarrett with Denzel ward the defensive side of the ball with Baker Mayfield having Dell Beckham junior, Anna Jarvis land, you Kareem hunt coming with Kareem hunt coming after eight games, and Nick Chubb already there there is simply no excuse for this Cleveland Browns team barring injury. This simply no excuse for them, not to make the postseason for the first time since two thousand and two that much you can say, I think going beyond that. I think it's a bit excessive at this particular moment in time. Let's make them. Let's let them crawl before. They walk and make the playoffs. I okay, Chris. I love you. I watch you all the time. You were my favorite. People always watch my rear schemes, just get one more safe than she's who would say was. You just said a few plug ins hand. They're good. Bye, man. Have a nice day. I appreciate the love. We'll goodbye you. Call it in about the Redskins. First of all, I wonder about you because you called about the risk because we know they just not there. We know that. Okay. It'll be their quarterback. Do you even know what you call me when that happens? Thank you. Let's go to Raymond. You live Stephen a ring your, thank you. Thanks for taking my call. I'm a first time caller some little nervous. I'm trying to make it as quick as possible. I've been watching you for years. I like to say I read a column about you that that you wrote about twenty years ago and estate nearby. I'm in south jersey. And I knew that you were going to be the man twenty years ago you've been the man for a long time. But anyway, then I fell issue. I know everybody's wanna talk about NFL Kareem hunt. I wanna talk about the NBA real quick. And my main man K D. He's been my man says she started playing I think first of all he's proved he's a number one player in basketball. But I wanna talk about what is making it. So difficult for him and free agency. What's why slow difficult? That's going to be difficult to Doug the difficulty is about him because he has all the car. K D can go where he wants think about it who's going to tell them. Now, if he says, I want to go to the clippers you think Steve bombing Doc Rivers little boy's gonna tell them. No. Of course, not if he decides he wants to go to L A with the Lakers. You think Magic Johnson gonna tell them? No. Of course, not if he decides he wants to come to New York, you'd think the Knicks are gonna tell them. No, hell, no. What if he's going to Brooklyn hail know what'd be decided to stay in Golden State. You take they're gonna tell him. No. Because we wanna play Klay Thompson. We're gonna pay Klay Thompson. We don't wanna pay you. That's what you say. They don't tell. Kevin Durant going to happen. He can go where he wants. So the difficulty is in his own mind because he's so great second grades play in the world as far as I'm concerned that Kevin Durant could go where he wants to go, and he'll have to make that go. Okay. Okay. I want to give you some food for its own. Do I'm I'm gonna just throw it out there some food for thought worry up. Go ahead, his his agent, his Asian is rock nation, and it and if he goes anywhere and over this area on the east coast. What do you think he would become the mecca is not only just basketball? But as far as his brand if he wins, right, not if you comes a dozen win, and you have to make sure you understand that everybody's asking the question. Can we really win in New York? Came. We really went to New York. Can you trust this organization? I like Steve mills I like, Scott Perry. But they've got some things to prove. And you know, what their biggest obstacle is is James Dolan because he's such a petulant child walking around getting Dr people out of Madison Square Garden because they they asked them to sell the team so thin skin. So childish. That that's going to get into way, potentially. The next Steven. I think he's going to go to the Brooklyn. Nets a connection that Jay z has wisdom and because as possible that's. You're talking you're not listening ago here that's possible. Because again, the Brooklyn nets with Sean marks and Atkinson doing a hell of a job. They don't have thought and they could be going into the playoffs without a stall. So imagine if they get a superstar if they get to it because it got carrots basement to shoot more than ex to in those boys have been doing a hell of a job. They've been doing a hell of a job. They are these story in basketball in New York. The only thing the New York Knicks have done this year is Trey porzingas and create cats based with it nothing else. So that'll be very very clear about that. What did in Knicks? I think that's the question. But I do believe that he's torn between staying at Golden State and the right things. Say it to you one more time. God say, we don't know. You know, do, you know, did I not give you every scenario and say, we don't know. I mean, what more can you do? No one knows. But Kevin Durant. I know he's leading the Knicks to believe they got a shot. But Brooklyn think they've got one two we shall see gotta bounce it. 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Tune in the night for the big twelve semifinalist presented by Scots. Coverage begins at six thirty pm eastern on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Plus he is PM radio's presented by progressive insurance customers who switch to progressive can save an average of six hundred sixty dollars call or click today and find out if we could save you hundreds on your car insurance. Breaking news the Miami Dolphins have just traded quarterback. Ryan tannehill to the Tennessee titans. I repeat the Miami. Dolphins have just traded. Ryan tannehill to the Senate titans. That's all I know for this moment. Here's my question to parts number one. What does that mean for more because my Ryota number two? Dan. Why don't you just grab teddy Bridgewater? Then. Just month or go back to the phones real quick. Anthony, you live Stephen they go ahead. Hey, Stephen, I thank you for having me on. I do quick questions for you real quick. One regard one going to know BJ trade. They giants fan obviously, wasn't happy. But with the giants being so unpredictable right now would shock anybody for them to trade their two first round draft picks to move up to Arizona's number one spot. I don't think that'll happen. I think they've got this site sit on Wayne Haskins. It would be a shocker to me if they were to draft column Murray, but anything's possible. All right. And my second question is all the dog. Kevin Durant coming to the Knicks. He said he wants to be the number one superstar. They want signed to max contracts. Wouldn't that be a deterrent to him? They said New York, they didn't necessarily say the Knicks. All right, easy. Could be Brooklyn. Thanks a lot. Let's go to Mike you lava Stephen they real quick might go. Stephen, I I'm just calling you guys talking about LeBron again my opinion if you're not part of the solution. You're part of the problem six and eleven when he's out foreign twelve since he's been back. Yeah. But they weren't afford seed in the Western Conference Christmas day in rolling before. He got hurt. We'll get ignore that. I'm saying the wheels came off their after the eighteen games that he was out. And he wasn't able to stop the slide. Right. No, no question. There's blue devils fan since I was a little kid. Yep. Dial Williamson Shawn Kemp. Tweet. Shawn shawn. Kemp couldn't dribble in open court the way to Zion could. Join Kim was a Skywalker dunk on anybody was a monster and opposed as well. But he wasn't Zion in terms of his open court abilities. He just wasn't. And that's the way I look at Zion something special when I'm thinking about Zion. Williamson I think about a better version or taller bigger more athletic version of Charles Barkley. That's what I think about. And when I'm thinking about freshman in college basketball in terms of their impact. No freshman has had this kind of impact. But at this position since Chris Webber as a freshman as a freshman since Chris whip. But he reminds me of Buckley, he really really does that much. I will say I gotta get on outta here. I'm looking forward to this week in college basketball these conference championships big twelve semifinals, then after that the ACC finals and all of that stuff going on in this weekend. Plus some NBA basketball action. There's gonna be a beautiful beautiful week in the basketball, and I'm loving it. I'll talk to you all Monday until then peace. Dash just a sample of what you hear on the Stephen swift show, weekdays at one PM eastern on ESPN radio and the ESPN app.

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