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Is That Right?

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22:33 min | 10 months ago

Is That Right?

"Thank all premium fuels are the same shell? V POWER NITRO PLUS PREMIUM. Gasoline is engineered with four levels of defense to keep your engine running like new. It's fuel for thought in engines that continuously you Shell v Power Nitro premium gasoline party interruption. But I'm Mike Wilpon in Chicago preparing to coach tomorrow night. Celebrity All Star Gate. I'm Tony Kornheiser and for the record. I'm a celebrity. You never even asked here. Well you know I mean Tony. You've got a certain popularity you know in the East but you're not bad. Bunny come on now. Surely you get that. I'm not bad buddy. I'm not big bunny. I'm not big Wa. I'm not any of the people that you might have on your team. Did you hold the practice yet? All the practice. Now we're GONNA go straight in just GONNA you know we're going to wing it that's great weather the PTI boys and girls in today's episode. The Raptors finally lose the PAC twelve faces shaking future and Jameis. Winston gets lasix is surgery but we begin today with the Houston Astros making public statements for the first time about their teams cheating. We will show you their owner. Jim Crane and one of their star players Alex Bregman. I'm really sorry about the choices that were made by my team by the Organization and by me I've learned from this and I hope to regain the trust of baseball fans are opinion is You know that this didn't impact the game We had a good team We won the world series and will got Jim. Science dealing a distinct advantage for the hitter. So how is it doesn't affect competition? So then what are you guys apologizing for Were apologizing because we broke the rules but is inside dealing a distinct advantage for the hitter. So it doesn't automatically impact competition could possibly do that. Possibly not on the Astros look better or worse after today twenty. I don't know I think this is how you hear it and I think they feel some remorse. I mean there's certainly apologetic. I think that they know their industry hates them right now. By and large not everybody but by and large in crane I duNNo. He seems oblivious. I am told by people know. That crane is disliked intensely in many quarters high quarters and he didn't seem to have any sort of sense of that at all and this is what happens. Billionaires often not aware of sort of how they are really perceived and outside of the quarters with the employer everybody but I don't know that these players get the full sort of dislike coming at them from around baseball and we'll find out spring training turns into regular season baseball. So let me take two different ways. I think some of the players were helped. I think Bregman probably helped himself. I think Carlos Correa probably helped himself. I thought they had contrition even if they hadn't had it. Prior to this point I thought Jim Crane. Hurt himself I understand. He played baseball as a kid. He was a pitcher and maybe he wants to believe that. If you're up against a great pitcher it doesn't matter if you know what's coming or not but when you say our opinion is this didn't affect the game of course it affected the game and my sensitives is Mike Dusty Baker's the right choice because he's relentlessly positive but I don't think these guys know what's going to happen to them every single day. Don't I think they're going to find that? They are hated on the road every single day. And Mike I think down the road when their contracts are up. I think they're going to try. And Get out you get out of Houston because I think they're going to feel stained by what they did and I'm GonNa try and go somewhere else. I think it depends on how the seasons so pose the Astros are able to put on the villains hat where it and stick together whether it's happy or not that would be big again. That'd be nice we've seen rebels and sports and we've seen them in baseball. The Oakland A.'s. Without talking about the old Charlie thank God they were there for years and they thrived on it so. I'm so mad not ready to look down the line like you are Denver. I don't know here's what I don't WanNa hear anymore of why I wish I had done more. Please spare me when you wish you had done more. You didn't do more because you liked the fruits that were in front of you of your lady like winning. Yeah so don't tell me that we get the basketball which is why I'm here in Chicago specifically for NBA All Star weekend and we're not going to deal with the West and the various scenarios evolving. Everybody who lives in La? Let's deal with the East and rare losses last night from Milwaukee Toronto. The bucks lost without Jaanus who was tending to the birth of his first child and the raptors had their fifteen game winning streak broken in Brooklyn on a night where they admittedly look tired and probably ready for their eight day. Break Tone. Consider these developments if you want but if you had to pick one team right now to win the east ooh would it be five to pick one team right now? I'm going to pick Milwaukee. They're four to six and eight I understand. They lost Indiana last night but they are into their last sixteen. I find it hard to understand how many people chip away at them and don't think they're that good they can win. Toronto can also whip Toronto's fifteen and one in their last sixteen so to me. These teams are clearly ahead of everybody else in the east to you agree and I'm going to reserve some Some some votes for Boston. I mean the Celtics have that I mean Philadelphia. There's no reason though. Many of US picked him at the beginning of the season. There's no reason to stick with that. Pick right now right and so i. I don't know that you can go there and Indiana's not ready yet. I mean they got a lot of growth in front of them. But Tony is that look. At Toronto's Rosser you're right about Milwaukee every syllable useful but Milwaukee's true but Tony something about Toronto. I mean Lower Siachen Vanfleet Gonzalo Bach. Who's ever playing? They're not healthy right now. Norman Powell Terrence Davis Rondi. Hollis Jefferson mccaw. They're so deep and those guys I just read they can find. I don't WanNa see a hero tone but they find people who make substantive contributions every night. I Love Toronto. I'M SEDUCED BY THEM. Handy Boston to in their last ten boss. I'm I'm I'm thinking right now that I don't know how certain I am this. Yeah I'M GONNA go with Toronto even though everything you said about Milwaukee a young bring something opposed true. Toronto was in Brooklyn correct. Yes just to bring this up Brooklyn sits seventh in the East right now. Yeah ooh let's look at this. They're seventeen and sixteen without Kyrie irving with Kyrie Irving. You know you just. Did you just commented? We brought up the staggering PAC twelve yesterday after Michigan state's swooped down and poached Mel Tucker from Colorado Stewart Mandel of the athletic chronicles the challenges facing the PAC twelve. He talks about the PAC twelve. Tv deal bringing in not. Nearly the money of other conferences. This leads to coach is like Tucker and Mike Leach leaving it leads to recruits. Going elsewhere will do you think the PAC twelve struggles or simply temporary. Well Tony depends on what you mean by temporary if you mean they might be able to solve some of these matters by two thousand twenty five to twenty four. They're SORTA they could get to. Redo the TV deal now. The question will be. How attractive is the PAC twelve to television networks? And you know you still do. Have THAT BIG FAT. L. A. Market sitting there. You've also Got San Francisco in that market and you got Phoenix. Which is the sixth biggest city in America? You so you got some. You've got some big Margetson stuff to work with their Tony. I think is going to take two to twenty two thousand twenty five thousand twenty six before it can be rectified team. Michael as long. That's a long time and you got this problem that nobody wants to deal with and you have to deal with it. Got Time Zone problem. You want to get your stuff out there for people. You can't have night games. Start at ten o'clock in the East because he's not going to happen when when you look you have covered college football when the pact to eight or ten ten twelve when timezone yes us. Yeah when they're great. There are no such issues when you're not great. You got a reorder people to to caring about you when John Wooden is at. Ucla you know when they were great when you see was great and football. They were the dominating conference in basketball. Now the big ten is much better much better than packed. Pac twelve got three teams in the tournament last year. Big Ten got eight teams the S. C. C. Which was only Kentucky is better now in basketball is then the PAC twelve and much better in football than than anybody. The national towards. Who Do you see a decade? Long problem you see something longer. It sounds like I understand that. In Two thousand twenty four. They think they're going to open the speech and the money is going to win. Then what if nobody cares? What what. He's watching? Wow I had for you and I who grew up with dominating tears this is sad. It is sad to say I'm crazy. I like to watch games and started ten thirty in the east. Well now everybody does what that means San Diego State Tony. Right now doesn't mean. Ucla yes today's NFL story. Thankfully has nothing to do with where Tom Brady. Might land but it does have to do with a quarterback Jameis Winston who had his nearsightedness corrected. Recently lasix surgery. Apparently Winston couldn't even see the scoreboard clearly in the stadium though he could make out receivers just fine. People can't resisted jokes of the kid having thirty thirty eyesight like that. I think that's funny seriously though tone. You expect better eyesight to make Winston a better quarterback and thus a more attractive free agent candidate so let me try and understand this Jameis. Winston has an eyesight problem all the way back to college and he corrects it now. After he throws thirty picks he corrects it now. I don't know really why he waited that. Okay well you can tell me why I had the surgery. Because apparently he's he and everybody around him is going to say that. This is the magic bullet that he's good from now on and again. I go back to this if you had this problem for a long time. Why did you wait because you might have had to wait? I had the problem since seventh grade. I got lay sick in. I don't know two thousand three or four. I can't remember exactly when grade. That's two thousand. Three or four is a long time. It was like two years. Were the other team Mike. I see it doesn't matter you said this contrary of what you alleged. Why did you wait? You wait because it's not available to people with certain ailments like an astigmatism that lace. It could not address fifteen years ago. Then I'll dress now. I'll ask you this because you've had it. Yeah does this. Change everything the tradition of your life. So Jameis Winston. You expect him to be good. I don't know if it gives affect his judgment but in terms of your eyesight he may still throw it to the wrong guy like Tony. You play golf with me. You know what the first day that. I didn't play golf six or seven years for the first time. You can see your drive. Yeah no matter where it is. And now you're showing off. I can see the ball down near eight hundred yards away it changes to wake up in the more TV so that helps them then. You but here's what I hear. Oh He's also colorblind and that's why he throws it count the break coming up. How does baseball look at what the Astros sent today? We're going to ask you have passing to ask him. Whether the latest denials closed the case of the Astros batters wearing buzzer. So do you expect Winston to be back with Tampa Bay giving a good contract? How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's Mike Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid worked his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news and information business from scratch mayor of Diverse Progressive City Mike Bloomberg rebuilt after nine eleven creating yearly five thousand jobs improving health care and public schools. Now he's running for President and Mike's the change. We need from chaos to steady leadership from lies to someone who believes in fact some data from divisiveness to someone who builds teams nurtures good ideas and hold himself accountable for results. Mike Bloomberg knows how to leave to build deliver to do. He'll win and unite this country. Mike will get things done. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate for president. And I approve this message because we need to deliver on the promise of the American Dream. Paid for by Mike Bloomberg Twenty twenty. Let's get back into the ASO's attempts to apologize with. Espn baseball insider. Jeff Passan. We'll buy look at all. That hair doesn't make you sick just too much. I Jeff Your your air. You're in West Palm all day long. What did you make of what you heard? I'M NOT GONNA call it a disaster because it wasn't a complete unmitigated disaster but this is a story that the Houston Astros Organization in that Major League. Baseball wants to go away and this is not going away anytime soon. And why I think we all expected the players to come out and apologize and say we're sorry and we're contrite and were remorseful because that's the easy thing to do. That's the smart thing to do what owner Jim Crane did in essentially doubling down about the lack of culpability as an owner and about how the players should be absolve from this even though rob Manfred said in his report that it was a player driven scheme was a misstep in Jim. Crane was missed stepping all day. Honestly I mean there was a point at which he said that I don't believe this had any effect meaning the trash can banging scheme on the Astros winning a championship and I came back a minute and seven seconds later instead. Hold on a second. You said you don't believe that. Had any effect and he said I didn't say that it was right there on video. So that really summed up the day for the Houston astras. Well let's zero in on Jim. Krant a little bit more. Because he's saying he should not be held accountable. How is baseball looking at Jim Crane specifically in his role in this well? Major League Baseball is looking at him like what he is. Michael he is one of Rob Manfred thirty bosses. Let's remember the commissioner goes to the owners and he works at their pleasure so the idea that Jim Crane was going to suffer some sort of severe discipline for this while he was in charge of the organization was just not realistic and it was interesting to hear him talk about the responsibility and culpability of Jeff. Luna the general manager. Innova J. Hinch the manager as if they had anything to do with this which neither was directly involved in this according to Rob Manfred report and yet sorta like brush off his own responsibility here even though he's the one who's in charge of the entire organization and was the boss of Jeff Luneau in. Aj hinch can. I ask the obvious question. Then do you believe Jillian seen when he says he knew nothing about this? Let's go back Tony to October of two thousand eighteen. I was working at a different company than I gotta tip that somebody from the Astros had been looking into the dugouts of both the Cleveland Indians in the Division series and the Boston Red Sox in the championship series that year. I went and I looked into it. And the person's name was Kyle mcglaughlin Kyle mcglaughlin Had met Jim Crane at a golf club and had come to work for the Astros Organization. I wrote a story that night. Not just talking about how Kyle mcglaughlin was pointing a cellphone into the dugouts. Doing who knows what with it. But the fact that the Oakland A.'s among other teams had complained to Major League baseball about the Houston Astros potentially cheating now at that point teams. Were throwing around wild accusations about each other. Every single day new call was coming into. The Commissioner's Office from one team. Saying that another was cheating and yet right now. Major League Baseball was looking at a situation. Where two clubs caught guy pointing a camera in a playoff game into a dugout further. I had in that story that two players had told me that the Astros had been banging on a trash can in order to signal players at home plate so this is back in October of two thousand eighteen that I wrote this story. The idea that Jim Crane did not know what was going on until November of two thousand. Nine thousand nine hundred simply does not hold water. Look and let's move off for a second look at Dusty Baker who has asked the baseball world to forgive the Astros and Baker has credibility that perhaps a lot of people in the Astros hierarchy. Don't you knew how the players around the League do you think they will actually forgive the Astros? I don't think there's any chance that they're going to forgive the astros anytime soon. And look the Astros players came out today and they said the right things. They said what they have to do but around the league. They don't really believe that there is contrition that there's remorse. The apologies are actually sincere. And Look I think some of the players. They probably were sincere. I think some of the players may not have been as much but as much credibility is dusty. Baker has as much as he was hired in part to come in and help clean up this mess him saying I hope that they accept the apologies and I hope that they forgive us. That's not going to be enough in the end. I think this is something that's going to take years and years to figure out just what the League is going to ultimately think of the Astros. Thank you very very much for dating. Gentlemen's my pleasure. Thanks for having me. Let's take one last break but still to come or the lions trying to trade matthew staff or and what should we expect out of Zion Williamson against the thunder tonight? West Palm looks good. Doesn't it will bond looks warmer than where you are? We got a nice balmy fourteen here yet. Snow pouring out of the sky on people forty. Third Birthday Randy Moss. We all know how great a player Randy Moss was. Fast is not about him as a player. This is about what it must feel like as a dad to watch your son when the National Championship. Moss's son Thaddeus was the starting tight end on. Lsu This year two touchdowns in the championship win over Clemson. We'll buy you watch matthew. I've watched a bit. There's nothing Randy Moss his career as much fun as watching his kid win that title. Tony I agree with that. I've talked to Das- many of them like Dell Curry and Calvin Hill watching their sons win championships. And they say nothing like it in their own careers. They love watching their sons. Do that not so happy. Anniversary to the forty niners understate twenty nine years ago team owner Eddie. Barlow junior unveiled the team's new helmet logo less than a week. Later the franchise bowed to the loud displeasure of the fans and scrap the change. The fans were right. This is a hideous logo the classic SF is on both sides and the reason is because this logo made people throw up in their own house. Whose idea with you don't need to change stuff like the Yankees and the Celtics and the cubs and the just leave the uniforms alone helmets too happy trails to the also game for Damian Lillard. Portland's point guard pulled a groin muscle last night and declared himself out for the All Star game. Although Lillard will still perform as a stage. Name Dame Dala on Saturday night in the game. Lillard would be replaced by Devon Booker the Phoenix Suns. Who Eleven Games below five hundred. It may well be that booker. Boot beat out John Moran through the Memphis. Grizzlies were two games over. Five hundred. Large Moran. We'll buy you love book through love. Coaching all star weekend. Who would you've never argued against booker? Never the ranch got the Memphis Grizzlies in the playoffs. Right now for me. Quick quick to the big finish. That's Still Allen. Published a memoir. Your thoughts sets a fascinating lights at a young age. Tony and may be quite v. Alliance denial Bernie smiler's report that the team is trying to Trade Matthew Stafford. What do you believe road? He's been my boy for forty years. Come on local thirty. Three Twelve and eight in return win over the Kings impressed kid. Pick right up where he left off. I told he would steelers. Gm Kevin Covert says. He does not think Big Ben. At the end of the road you agree to but my opinion means nothing compared to the GM's opinion. Come up last one CY on back on the court tonight at home against the thunder. What do you expect a double double at the very least? Tony even got some sad great pretty much consistent. Oughta time trying to the next time. And I'm Tony Kornheiser. Wilbon same time tomorrow knuckleheads. You can get the PTI podcasts on the APP or apple podcasts.

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Toronto Raptors guard Fred VanVleet

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Toronto Raptors guard Fred VanVleet

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Personally every single part of this screams like we could not have seen coming and it's always different from from internal though. Oh did this. was there anything that you guys knew whether it's about an you know about your own game you're going to be like what the raptors season might have what promise it might have. Did you know in October that it could be this good still yeah for sure. I mean we know capable I love. We know how good we were. And if you weren't inside a locker room war even aside you know franchised. Any Bradley does don't pay attention into his much. And and that's fine. We're okay with that but We know what it was. We were shooting nine. Wins and fifty. Something wins before that Before last last season and one of the games last year once every ship obviously we lost co I end any and people paid a lot of attention to that but the regular season it was never the question for us we do. They were good enough to to compete at a high level. Be a tap top seed in the east and then you get to the playoffs and you see what happens. I think all of us who have washed you guys a lot last year and especially there were obviously twenty two games or so the play we like the the the fundamental foundation of this team came specially. What you guys are will defensively and the talent that was there? I don't think anybody you've any of us who cover the League would have written you guys off. It was always there going to be good even without Kawhi. They'll be good but I don't think anybody expected like fifty six win pace which I think is what you're on right now. We're good in in our defense. This this has never happened before the. Mvp of the finals has never just walked away from his team in his prime. And that's not an easy gap to fill. Dude D- You. I know you and Pascal really really tight. Did you knew that he had this next gear that you could step in and he could be that guy he could fill. Essentially Co is vacancy. Yeah absolutely I mean did it last year I think this thing like the people that follow the NBA. or it's been long enough. You'll you'll come to realize that it's a opportunity driven league and last year. Every person probably accept coli took a step back and what they could do or what they may have wanted to do in terms of the greater good of the team. Everybody's nobody's roles was completely different than what they are a year forward and you have to do that to win a championship and so we saw Pasco explode into being a superstar Dr last year but it was always looked at as you know. He's doing this because so much attention on by X. Y. Z.. But you know we just keep working and ultimately your opportunity will come and when it does you you have to be ready and prepare for it and I think that's what we're seeing a little bit. Now there's the difference sometimes in how players evolve right. There's talent that's their guys. Will you know make some guys make the most town guys don't and there are guys. You can see the have talent. But maybe we don't necessarily have like the mental makeup to decide like I'm the guy I can be option one or even on a given night option one two three or whatever so I think the thing. We didn't know about Pascal even while we saw some spectacular performances from last year including in the postseason on your championship run but when a guy caliber top-five MVP caliber Albert player leaves. You don't know if the next guy can actually feel that because it's are you are you. Are you built to do that. What is it about Pascal that you know as close as you are that Bidu confident that he could not not just again not just the talent that make up the court but that he was ready to take on that responsibility responsibility? I mean this is like what should mental makeup. What are you made of? Is there any substance. There is there any toughness mental fortitude. Is there genuine. Love for the game is their ambition to WANNA be great. He's had all of those things from day. One now the talent and putting it altogether together as progress year-by-year but again last year was a huge step for him in terms of dictating. What type of career wants to have? Nobody expected him to Lsu. Nobody asked him to do it last year. It just happened that way and so yeah I leave. And now he's he's started into position that a lot of superstars for stars are are as as a lot as the film night in night out and he's he's stepped up to the task and every single way and I think it's a testament to the work that he's put it in number one and just maturity and Also is basketball. IQ And just love for the game to WanNa get better WANNA learn be okay with failing be okay okay with knowing that you know at the end of the day. There's a bigger picture. Did the championship changed you guys at all. I mean you're the especially the guys who were there like like a Lotta. You're still very early in your career and you never know when that's GonNa come and you never know it'll come again. We think of it as as being almost as Trans transformative live kind of experience and you kind of smile already like what what did what did it do for you. What's what do you think feels does feel different today? This is hard to put put into words right because most of us are coming from the standpoint where we have so much to prove and we want to prove people wrong. WanNa prove people ride and we've been doubted you didn't and overlooked and so all of those things go into your make your character as a person as a player so one in its envy. Ship is validation that everyone's looking for and this confidence and swagger and all of those things before but once you win nobody can ever tell you that you don't have it. It just eliminates the out of the picture so every player has his self doubt or or little voice in your head of of whether it's real or not people who always have something to say about them them but once you eliminate that out of the picture you go into a different mental space of knowing what you know is right and you know what it takes to get there. And you've proven it and now the beautiful part is that you just get to go play and understand at some point down the line or certain games wherever so you have to prove it again and again but that's the fun part knowing that you've already done it and stepping up to the challenge and try to go and do it again. Helen does that high last it depends. There's a couple of different highs The the the celebrate story that was most of the summer for sure that run of just trying to soak up all the fun and excitement and energy that goes into celebrate an entire season. He's in for us for me. It was like a three year thing because I thought of it as come until the rookie gone to what I had to go through getting swept twice and then you know in third the year you win a championship so I think of it as time piece of. So celebrate net whole experience assumption that lasted you know couple months in the summer. And then you get back back to work and you start to look ahead for for what's next. Yeah a part of that celebration of the summer. You took the Larry O'Brien trophy home to Rockford. Yeah what was I know like you go back and you've got a camper clinic put on every year celebration so I know how much your hometown means to you to bring the trophy there. Where did you guys one like? This is something I wanna do not a never thought of it. I didn't even know that was possible because I mean we don't want you lose mostly. You're not paying attention to what the temperatures are new on. I mean you don't know that you can take to. You're not really tuned in like that. So you know. Once as we won I think as the conversations one about and and obviously people within organizations started to put feelers out. Hey you know there's a schedule for the trophy and you have to try to buy visor time and find nowhere. Scheduled works in. There was a pocket of time made sense and align with our campaign we do every year so it was great it was as if if the A very memorable moment out of body experience to be able to take the trophy back in and I know we know what it means to us as basketball players but to the have the trophy the actual trophy in front of people who've been watching. NBA Finals their entire life. That you don't have a concept of what that means to especially in a place like Rockford who doesn't have a professional team don't have a major college team is not really a huge Professional sports town in the sense of so people. Don't get to see these games in person at all so people who are really watching every single thing on TV they get to see up. Close some kids just like sit there like an auditor touches like that thing. It's heavy and it's very very speedy. Release when it comes right out of the case. It's very shiny at that moment. They keep that thing very prestigious all wanting just kind of get on it and it took the Senate with a handler and I would see somebody. I worked for our team but They take great care of it. They gotTA keep wiping it down and make sure it's this. It's all shiny but yeah so we kinda surprised The people a little bit with it and as I was walking out to make my the entrance I had it and there was probably twenty police officers with me and trying to make sure why we're running. Try to grab her doing things stupid so it was a legendary moment for the city for sure. How long does each player to have the trophy on a schedule is a schedule so I think whatever you can manage to work out? I have mine for three days. I think we had A. We had a camp Friday Saturday Sunday. Yes I have my for a weekend and You know went back on his way but it was it. It was really really cool to to have a back on the meant a lot to me. Did you know of any of your teammates. Took it anywhere interesting. Any what's the Larry. O'Brien to we're look like no. I think I think almost everybody had a chance to take it back home or somewhere that meant a lot to them The funnier part is the staff who gets to borrow our. You know people that you wouldn't think of our medical staff and Chinese staff and and Day to day OPS and they all have their own. You know Special today's backward air from and you know Obviously is not his own grass. Go but you know it's pretty cool like for One of our trainers that take it back to his high high school or is home or something have family come over. They gave means a whole hell of a lot and especially the people in. Canada has a different type of relevance. Yeah no well. It's a very cool. I love the fact that the League has that that aspect of it where everybody can. It's not it's not. Just that moment on the stage job I think they To have replicas obviously but you can you can try to finish away and get the actual thing and and so they. They do Java spreading and does really cool that they do that. You talk about the validation and you talk about like this the deck and never be taken away right. You've got that but I always hear about like you know this this this kind of phenomenon where it's like you win it especially like the front office immediately by the next morning they're already thinking about. Oh my God we got contracts see whenever they take cannon job at all. They'd probably the coaching staff probably has to start stressing dressing out a few weeks after that. You guys probably enjoyed the longest but then there is. There's this whole element of the NBA or of sports. Where okay reset button back? Two zero zero. Does it feel like a different challenge going into obviously is gone but does it does it. What does it like trying to feeling like like you have to prove it again or is there less pressure because you know what if I never win another one my entire career? I've got this. I've got this ring I've got. We've got that banner are we've got this moment that it enthralled an entire nation. Frankly where's where's the balance of feeling that depression the need to do it again versus okay. I've got this. Yeah somewhere in the middle I think. Obviously there's a whatever pressure you want to make AAC or put on yourself. I think certainly I think that as a team and as individual would definitely put expectations on ourselves But the cool thing about about this year. Is that coli leaving kind of reset regardless so we go from defending reigning champs so to speak to a team team like you spoke about. Nobody expects to do much of anything yet or good. It got good players though. Have a favorable record. But nobody's really giving us a real shot at this thing and so that was. That was the best part is I could go back to work flying into radar. Nobody pays attention to us. And right there at the end you know we'll try to turn it up and and get ourselves back in there to have a shot and I think the best part about it is knowing that how number one lucky and and Good and and and sustainable. You have to be at the end to do it so we just went through it. We were really really really good team last year and we still had to have a Colli game winner in certain things had to happen for us to keep you know going on in the playoffs. I it's a lot that goes into so knowing that I mean we gives ourselves as good a shot as anybody get to the end and it's about just making it through the regular season Healthy and continue to get better build your habits and loose whoever's problems it's human nature to hate problems but why is that after all problems inspire us to mend things. Ben Things make things better. That's why so many people work with IBM on everything from city. Traffic to ocean plastic new schools to new energy energy flight delays to food safety smart loves problems IBM. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT COM slash lashed smart to learn more ever been knocked down. You know suffered a setback. Fired left out it happens. It happens a Mike Bloomberg middle class kid kid worked his way through college. Got A job started a family boom fired at thirty nine would it. Mike do a lot of us. Do we got backup dove back again. 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Everybody heard about is the gown founded the Mike the DJ's he's giving shout the whole leaf rather than here so then like the text come through from Hawaii. And he's FELLAS. I'm leaving whatever. One second goes by everybody. False start. Lighten up Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding so literally as present on his texts debt. Probably they sent it the press in audits at the same time like like the news. The News went out right all at the same time he did. They did a great job. Keeping Undergrad so I think it all went out at the same time are we got architects. I did news when out here comes the guy on the Mike. Okay is going to La. Uh so all the net till we had we had Good time just you know it was cool. We appreciate them for what he did. And and you know I like the fact that he Texas before did it whether he had to do that or not. I thought that was pretty cool. Do you wish on his way they weren't they didn't what the entire club Denison. All just all turn towards you felt that way felt that way not could have been in my own mind signed or or not but it definitely felt that way And obviously had to deal with everybody coming up to you like hey quiet leaving. Yeah I know yeah I'm aware yeah you move on and you start to think about what that means for you and and what that means for the next year and and you start to turn your mind into a different place in India ready in the movie version of this. Dj would literally do the record. Scratch quite wise leaving. It wasn't maybe we were somewhere else. But I don't think people was that lockdown goes as big of a deal there did hit you emotionally at all. I mean we often you know like I know he was only there a year and every team got relationships are different. Everything else but does does a hit you on any kind of emotional level or is it just. We are because we're also used to the idea one that the NBA A is a business as cliche goes but also that it's common now for guys to go there were certainly tons of speculation about L. A.. And everything so I guess us on some level. It probably wasn't that big of a shock but did you feel any kind of level of like. Oh Shit like I can't believe the files. MVP's walking away or is it is it. Does it feel more just a kind about pragmatic we're on to the next. It wasn't that big of a deal. I think you know they drew it out quite a bit right so I think there's there's a little cabinet miles there so I think throughout that process it Kinda was anticlimactic a little bit for for me at least like smoke. There's fire something's going on in between here like I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves. I think for the most part the common belief was how could you leave. That's kind of what the thought process was like all right. Yeah he might leave. I could see why he will leave. But I got to see it first so one. That actually happened like them. Okay you know he did and The more surprising thing was the Padras thing right so that was like so it goes from Korea going to La then boom like wait. What is so then you start to put everything together? They are cool like the guy wanted to go home and he wanted to. You know do his own thing in and how they put it together was cool for them. So yeah you wish them. Well no and I was like it wasn't it wasn't that big of a deal You know he was there a year we did feel like I built a solid friendship karate with him during the second second half of the year and obviously he was super important to us when a championship. But we want so like that. Was the number one goal anything after that was we knew it. I knew what it was. He didn't ask to go to Toronto. He never chose to go there but Definitely to my hat to them for for the year that he it was. Yeah we were talking a little bit earlier and before we start recording him just about you know. Media Narratives Jared and I were talking about things get get fixed two guys whatever and so like the story sorry for probably the rest of your career which will still be many more years to come and be like well Fred Van Bleed who was undrafted and then over whatever and it's always this kind of story of exceeding expectations which is not a bad cliche narrative to have a fix to you because it means you're you're constantly outpacing what anybody else could have expected. Do you like it that way. Does that get old. Because it's like everybody who gets in this league your elite just to get here we all lose track of that because compared to some of you guys in this league others there's a big span and that for four hundred fifty players but do you. Do you enjoy that aspect of it because again this season you got career career highs across the board. Nobody saw coming what you did in the postseason. You just. We're at this whole the level that that was a really fun ride and now it's okay now it's just even the next step step is not just. It's not just filling the gap of it's you and a bunch of guys. How enjoyable is that to constantly? Just as soon as everybody feels like they gotta beat on. You Know Fred van lead who was undrafted and then await there's going to be five more sentences about all the other stuff he just did. I mean is great. I think that a good position GonNa be and like I could complain. Everything is at some point to ask your question but I mean this is. This is where I'm comfortable at and and that just to be honest I don't want your hype Don't I don't want it. I promise you I don't want it. I'm not don't fit the algorithms. I'm not click. Click Bait I don't ever want to be and I don't know how many of us are off. It is but I think that yeah. I think like I'm cool with where I'm at and it's a constant reminder that nobody will ever believe in you like you believe in yourself and that's something that I've come to realize because I've had to and and this is like no matter what I do. There's always another ceiling to break through. And you know that's fine I don't live for other people's ACKKNOWLEDGEMENT or praise or whatever the case may be not doing joy get respect from my peers and people that I respect but as far as that like I'm I'm very very comfortable being quote unquote underdog and being in that the only thing that gets annoying now is so mainstream of thing like like especially with social media. Everybody wants to come from the struggle and everybody wants to be underdog everybody wants to overcome is like talking about top. Five picks or overcoming miniver. See like come on man. That's like a sorry cheap like narrative. I mean so being thrown into all of that Kinda gets watered down a little bit but you know this is this is my story has been written so far and I wouldn't have and the way a couple of people mentioned this. Just the idea that you have this like ultimate confidence in yourself ultimate belief in yourself. Where does that come from? Where where is there anything just in terms of the you know your career path long before the NBA? And we're just as as a kid is. There's something that kind of instilled that in you that okay not getting drafted or any other of the obstacles pickles. They get came up early. Wouldn't because some people they might throw off the course right for you because of this ultimate belief so where where does that draw from a deep deep question because this is a lot like I mean you start from the beginning of had unbelievable family and support system now always pumped me up and built me up and told me that you know whatever I wanted to do I could do. I remember from as early as I can remember. I always told my mom wanted to be an NBA and she never not wants to say anything other than we'll go do it. and like that builds up a kid right and so from new age and then you you get into a little deeper the story of how grew up and what I had to go through certain things like that like I always had to be sure myself just and in my personality analogy and my character is just I really believe in what I believe in and then I've had to stand on that and you can't walk around my City where I grew up. And not be that because you're gonNA get exposed and so all of those things go into who you are as a player and then once I got older like I work my ass off man like I really put work in every single summer drought this season day in day out. I put a lot of work and so I have no choice but to go out there and feel like I know I can do because I've done it. I've done it when nobody's watching. I'd do it in gym every day in the summertime and so it's no different when you get out on. The court is just is basketball with a lot of people watching. And if you create that pressuring Your Head and you'll stumble a little bit but if you just go you know let it fly and you see what happens. Can you be able to live with the results. I've heard too that you were a guy who was a pretty vocal leader on this team even from early just smile. It's like there's like that doesn't happen. That often write a guy comes in young. And you know there's veteran cast around them so again like there's obviously something in you that I felt like I don't have to prove to these guys. I I know who I am one of about Did that catch guys off guard. Maybe maybe but I think I mean from day one. Everybody's pretty accepting of me like I had to give Kyle DEMARCO's guys credit. You know for allowing me the floor. You know this before I I was even playing. I wasn't even getting any minutes and I have those guys ear and I could speak to them and tell them different things that I saw from the bench and they would listen and and maybe they were. They were blocking out there hit but they never disrespected me to say shut up like they always at least acted like they were taking it and so that gave me the confidence to a Q.. Speaking I've always been a natural born leader. I think that's something as as in you and There's a certain glow or at that attracts people to you that I've always always had and so obviously you know you can only lead so much without playing. You know to be honest and so once ministered to go up and started to be able to approve it and be accountable on the floor day in and day out. I think that that's allow me to grow as a leader within my teammates and also with the coaches just to to have with a voice that people respect and I don't over use it and I try to pick spa but I think when I speak people. Listen for the most part. And that's something I'll take a lot of. That's probably my greatest trait. I think you know that never gets talked about because we like to focus on tangible things but nothing. My leadership qualities are probably at the top. Who've who've of WHO I am as a player and you'd have to have pretty good leadership qualities and communication skills especially in a group like this and it's especially like guys like Mark Assault and Sergio have been around a awhile and kyle is not exactly a shrinking violet? Yes so you beg. I guess you've got to be pretty skilled at it for that kind of group to listen to one of the still one the younger guys in the locker for sure I mean. Give those guys credit to to a street. I'm not saying I'm the greatest leader that's ever walked the planet but like those guys it's a give intake and I think that you know you have to be accountable yet to be a good friend and a good teammate. And and then you know you figure out the rest and we we disagree all the time honors arguments that news blow ups and then you know you move on and figure it out after but I think the number one we WANNA win. We really care about winning. I we all I want to be great in our in our own rose and then everything else falls under and I think just the honesty. That's my you know that helps me. A lot is just be honest and not being afraid to speak my mind also picking my spots. You know the truth doesn't need to be off time And so that's something that I've learned as I've gotten older. How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's Mike Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid worked his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news and information business from scratch mayor of a diverse progressive city. Mike Bloomberg rebuilt after nine in eleven. 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It's give them La la with Randall. Yes it's give them with Randall. Listen and subscribe today. Wherever you get your your podcasts? You've not been on your surges bleacher report. Show about what will you or how hungry are you. Yeah they had us on their second league. We did it defense here so we all did it together. Those fire was would. Would you have to eat lamb brain. I think yeah it was. It was terrible the worst worst experience of my life for sure I go on that show now. I mean it's like one of those things where you know. It's your teammates so you want to support him and and you and it seems cool and then you get in a moment you realize there's no getting out of there was I think the bed at the time was you had to eat it or you had to buy a new iphone at that time so the looking back I should have just took the pay the money but Yeah it was. It was definitely a pleasant experience. I guess was on little bit ago and then pulled you up on on on the phone. Yes verify whether your nickname was actually chop. Oh yeah you can you explain. I can would but others say that that's something between me and some close friends of mine that has developed over the years But I mean actual actual definition of the word tomorrow Standards Shorty. So we'll keep it. PG there but something has developed years for sure. Something surge was not supposed to be disclosing. That wasn't really yet. I wasn't supposed to go on this so but I didn't happen because I did his other. He he had another fashion show that we did and it came up. I had it on a jacket I think. And he was asking me about it what that meant and so I kind of explained to a little bit and they just took an Iran with anything for content. I guess nowadays. It's not just asking the allies. Not Yes sir Sir is definitely up there. which office he he he? He knows what he's doing. And within that shows I guess he made Pascal Pick between you and kyle. So how did that on plenty. Yes so before it came out obviously fast out came to me. He's like Oh man I had to pick between you and he made me you know. Drink Cricket Jews or something. If if I didn't I don't care I know who is favourite is I don't I don't need to you. Don't need to prove it to me on camera. He's like Oh you know. I didn't WanNa make anybody mass. Yeah so I try to do is play. I was like well. I don't care about that stuff man. It really has no effect on me at all. I don't think I don't think that's a real question. So is the dynamic with you and kyle obviously. There's the obvious look at this veteran younger guide and mentor. Giving sense of what that relationship has been like what he's the most valuable thing that he passed onto along the way these last couple of years man everything like I just. I've been watching them. You know since I got here I remember when I first got the training camp. Just he would be in a gym like two hours before training camp star. Obviously not old guys don't have to do much in practice or learn that but to see him you now work and continue to work and be a pro every day and come in no matter what was going on. He always is ready to win win. The game came. You know so just learning. I'm from learn his game watching them high finish Watching them shoot. You know develop me as a shooter I I. I've taken you know. Bits and pieces from from everything he does and try got added to myself. So it's been fun for me to China trying to catch up to him and kind of be on the same level in instead of it being like you know uh Like you said like rookie vet like kind of you know. I'm trying to catch up to him and be on the same plane. And just you know my goal is obviously I'm getting a head start and I'm getting in a lot of Free game from him and so is my job to take what he's done and try to take it further. It's such an interesting parallel to because is cow bounced around a lot that you have around but kyle was another one who second round pick right so they do you know three or four teams whenever before finally finds a real home and some serious serious bumps along the way but it's it's a different path than what you're taking but still true a lot of guys on your team a guy that we could not have seen in this kind of career path coming from it seems like such a really tangible or almost tangible thing that binds your team in particular that there's a very common and threat there for sure I don't know whether it is about each individual but some type of characteristic dare that make sense for everybody and Yeah like you said Unbelievable belief itself to go to where he went to get drafted by Memphis. Try To beat a guide in Dr Mike. And now he's on the outs and then go to Houston and didn't really quite work out and then kind of dumped to Toronto and was coming off the bench and all of a sudden he stri with a I mean case in any into all star so hell of a story for a guy to our size to be able to do. He's done and one of the most winning his players. The last you know five ten years Um that people continue to disrespect you know nationally. But he's a he's a guy with team So maybe with this actually one question for you Another one that would throw in real quick. The memes went hard last year during the finals with Nick Nurse Guitar strapped on his back coming off the plane dynamics. Have you guys ever heard Nick nurse play the guitar Is Not the guitar. But there's always pianos stuff before you know in the in the hotels before we do film. He's really really good on the piano. I did see a clip of him. performing women live this summer. Though was what band he performed on stage. I thought that was that was really dope. So he's he's he's Kinda like trying to be modern day renaissance man. He's pretty good. He loves music and I think it's cool that that he can do all that stuff. He's legit now. He's lived here for sure I don't know if he could sing. He definitely graphic play instruments. All right so I'll leave you with this question Every step along the ways been like a while now now affirmatively could be a starter forever. Eighteen point game. You keep knocking down that next wall. Push the envelope. How far can you push this? all-star art do. You do have those kinds of goals. Does that individual stuff matter or what you've got. That ring is everything else almost secondary absolutely rings. I but edify her. You know if I went to my room right now and I grabbed my journal. I could show you my my goals for the year and you will laugh you you a crack up laughing. What they they say and the funny part is for me is I get to see them? Vote and people will be like. Oh my God how did he do it. And then I always go back and look and uneasily written out before you started so yes austar everything. I need to list them but I want everything that as you can imagine a player they want. I want to do and I WANNA win more championships and I want to be as great as as I can be as an individual and as a teammate and We know disguising them. Have you always been that way with the goal setting in the Journal. I mean always Mitzi I never I didn't start writing them down to probably Kyle my the last couple of years of college and my senior year and then I was once I got an NBA started taking a more serious But you have always been very goal driven and now I just get super specific on on what I actually want and this is crazy to watch watch confirmation so I didn't get all my goes last year but I got most of them and I'm halfway air on goes this year so keep plugging away. I'm I'm guessing if we did see that journal. 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It was initially reported that there was a two year extension which freaked everybody out for fifteen million dollars a year which eats into your twenty twenty one plan and the Greek freak target but then later gets reported that it's a team option with the understanding that Miami will decline that team option if they can get a bigger star. This is assumed to be a larger part. James Johnson is reportedly at this is the deal. There is his expert. The expectation is that this is going to end up being at least a three team deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder and the player that I think is actually the best player player involved in this entire trade. Hasn't officially been moved yet. None of these players have been moved yet. Danilo Gallinari who I've been a fan of for very longtime sun. Just an Italian thing. I think the needle he's playing very well for Oklahoma City fits his team tremendous point shooter. A big yeah. Remember I kept saying like Kevin Love would fit at that Meyers Leonard starting role a little bit. Neil galleria absolutely helps This unit it'll be interesting to see who else is involved in this. But let's just look get the Justice Department. So let's let's look at what we know. igwe dollar hasn't played all season. Winslow hasn't played all season. He dollar Oh you at least know all the reasons why with winslow it might be because he wrote a dolphins back one time. Now we were talking about this a little before the show. It seems like we're kind of on the same page with this in Nat Matt looking at that. Just as a whole winslow for Dolla. You're kind of thinking. winslow had slightly more value. I thought winslow was better than netting and Andrei but I feel like they're kind of telling us something I you know it's either. They're you know with the injury stuff they just don't think winslow is going to be like the guy. It's a shame because we just WANNA was playing. When he was on the court I thought he was playing his best career? Four they think Dala can still be a somewhat of a main contributor. What I know about Pat Pat loves those old champion? It'd be a combination of both those things there are a little tired of winslow they stink they think etc has really be that veteran presence along with Jimmy because other than Jimmy we have a lot of guys like you know the Bam's of the world don't have a ton of play of experience grading you're shooting your downgrading you're shooting which is a crazy thing. We say justice because the book on Him. Even though three point was justice winslow is turned into a very respectable three point shooter in the NBA and Andrea Goodall in the playoffs seems seems to be kind of a respectable three point shooter. He all of his numbers go up in the playoffs. He is that's where he is making his name now. But but I feel like we from what I've seen on twitter and social media. I haven't listened to any local radio about it but it seems like we're in the minority in that people on twitter seemed to be very excited about this last night. Eight Pat Riley was trending a lot of people saying he's doing his thing He's he's just make moves right but I I don't. I'm a little conflicted over the move you've as it stands right now without the Gallon Ari piece in one for one thing. This is a good move. I don't think it happening. Is anyone saying it could happen one for one like if it's going to happen it's going to be the expectation is that this is a three team deal with Oklahoma City. That sees Danilo Gallinari coming to Miami. But that part hasn't happened yet. If that happens you're flipping back and you're good with. This is a good trade deal as a whole game. Johnson Dion waiters winslow gone and we get Gallinari. Those I think would just one for one. I'm not I'm not a fan right one for one. I'm not a fan. I think winslow is sort of a younger I think. He's a very versatile defender. I think he can initiate the offense offensive that Andrea go dolla. Can't really I trust them. More shooting the ball. So I'm not crazy about just at one for one swap but Andrea would olive l. a. brings stuff to the team that pat really values with Old Gritty Championship guy. I was just hoping that one for one just wins would have netted you more than Andrea. Guatemala never plays though. Yeah that's true. Well neither well he could have been playing. He's just been kind of training and stuff his video. He seems undefeated. He's he's ready to go. He seemed like he was wearing shirt. But I could. I could definitely tell that there was muscles underneath that shirt. Yeah so I. I don't know what kind of play in shape Andre Iguodala is going to be. His numbers and production has dropped off in the regular season. SORTA year-over-year this is a move for the postseason. This is pat going. I'm for it while maintaining flexibility for twenty twenty one. This is pat saying I can improve this roster as presently constituted and we can really compete for an eastern Eastern Conference title this year if I make one or two tweaks and we'll see what the the whole picture is when the dust settles it's crazy because the first game of the season when Butler was out winslow was is the guy that came in. It's just funny to see that fall. I mean it has to be like because when he was healthy the heat we're putting winslow in spots where they thought he was the number three guy after Bam winslow was a starting point guard though it just it seems like there definitely has been a disconnect with the fact that they gave him up for iggy dollar. I feel like they've lost in the last three months. Have something happen. That they're just like you know what we were trying to get this for winslow. But now we're willing to take. The Reynolds does a great job covering the team for the associated. Press said. I've never had this confirms but whenever say it but I just don't know something to the effect of I just don't know if justice wins was in love with the idea of being a heap player. Read into that as you will is. That justice is really not cut out for heat culture. I I've never really felt like basketball's most important written justice winslow but I'm just some schmuck as also a schmuck a also. I'm a Schmuck as well but billy and I were at heat media day and one of our takeaways from that was how how happy he seemed to be there and granted. That's the first day of the season. So you know he could be. You know feeling good about that day and not. It didn't seem like he wasn't happy. Happy to beat. You seemed pretty comfortable like like he was like this day outside of Jimmy. I'm the guy this year. He was walking around the guy joking with people like he just I. I didn't get those vibes. He could have really felt those things. And it was just giving off funded. I reconfirm what you said about the Dolphin. I've heard I've seen many tweets that he was on Tobin. Even show and speculated with sources the the very same thing that I said that the the the heat while it was a heat event weren't thrilled with him actually getting in water and swimming with Dolphins Miami seaquarium. We've been over this several times here on the local hour and I think the last time we discuss it. I just decided to take the loss right. Well Sampson told you that you were wrong. It was just one of those things that I was kind of speculating that it's not a good look. Guys missed twenty straight games to be swimming with Dolphin. You initially initially speculated that he aggravated aggravated his injury running the back of just I was just like an optics. He said it wasn't great for someone with a back injury and sure enough. The next day or a couple of days later he went out and played and he reaggravated aggravated outback. No I'm just saying and I'm just saying there's nothing to prove that what you're saying is wrong right. And the fact that they've traded him force value that we kind of expected validated. I feel a little validated in that they there seems to be some said five seconds ago. There seems to be something that happened that there are a little less less high down on winslow. Yeah well look. Maybe he decided to get in the water goal rogue. But I'm with you like it was set up by the Miami the heat event and they don't want him to do it. You think someone at that with the would've said hey look in fairness like if the Miami go to the Daytona five hundred to make an appearance and one of their players gets. It's in a NASCAR and drives around like that's not what they're planning for that person to do just because you go to. The aquarium doesn't mean you have to swim with the dolphins so the heat loss last night right but that was Patrick. Beverley when Jimmy Butler on twitter a little bit hurt last night that was a little bit of a story yeah injured. He aggravated his his shoulder. Had to leave the game but I was going to watch this game. And then I realized that with the trades well ten thirty sorts tough but with the the trades that could affect the heat's performance that one night. And why am I going to further invest in the Miami Heat as that unit when they're going to be totally really different when I wake up the next morning for down even the good times and the bad through thick and thin I'll be there in the thick and thin just not the late east coast. Yeah in the thick is on the West cast. I'll get back to you circle back in the morning. How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's Bloomberg about doing things? 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Too Short little net throw football into and then there was one probably twenty yards away and then there was one forty yards away and Roy made the first one in on the second one he just lost a little bit right and he hit a poor lady right in the head was a direct hit or like we'll hit like she was on the other side side the net so it kind of hit the net but a hitter it hit her and her head jolted and she looked back but you could tell it wasn't the first time because she was standing like right in the line of fire but it was just funny Roy's reaction to its. I'd like to call them out for it. I had a conference call with all the Florida panthers hand it was I was negotiating now. I still don't have confirmation that you can actually open up the cats then. You'RE NOT GONNA do Chris but I made it a top line item. Well I had to demands. Yeah well one was like a bullet. The point the first one was a suite with the bullet points being food and beer. I didn't really cover the food beer aspect. But we're okay guys we can't we just sit amongst the people know because we're bringing family they actually. They actually wanted to do like a sort of giveaway. Can we give away tickets to like that. Sweet Watch it with the ship Hainer Candy and by the way Dan Laboratory in God's confirmed they are coming to the to. I know you sound surprised. I still don't believe students will be there. I I told him pencils sold it. I'm like Shipping Container Night at the Florida Panthers Game. You think that would be enough but I was like what the plan the flyers huge playoff implications applications and sue guides wrote back. You sold me with the flyers. stugatz is going to be there Dan. It's going to be there. I was like we're bringing families. Kids are GONNA be there. I'd really like like this sweet to be like a hub can get away but like we. We are here for all your photo just like every intermission and post you WANNA do any sort of stuff with us we are down. Chris Cody wants opened up the cat. Stane yeah and that's just me you guys don't WanNa come with well I I'll be bored. It's your demand and I was like he he's willing to write Zamboni. I made because you said that all the way out so we're still talking about things. I was more kind of aiming towards a couple times a period. Those people skate onto the ice and snow. It was a real that it was a real heavy experience. This call though because it was. We're not very into them. The person that set it happy the person that set it up used to work for seven ninety to take it. I'm saying knows that we're all about it. But it got handed off to someone on that which is really tough and tell you when you throw in Dan lebatardshow coming. I didn't say that but I was just. It was very humbling because yesterday minute argument that were more popular than the dolphins offensive. He is the house. Is it though because I can't name a single dolphins. It seems like you weren't actually very humble yesterday after the call if you still bigger than the donkey. Let's get into this dolphins offensive lineman. Yeah I named someone that owns Mike Ryan Jersey. There's plenty of people that bought Mike Ryan Merch lebatardshow AF shots getting bigger than the dolphins offense offensive line. Not The dolphins for name Kurt Offensive. Line starters yes I would say there's more people that can name people on the dolphins offensive. Lineman can name the people on the show not at all. The dolphins offense line doesn't get ten million downloads a month. Like I get the humble like yes you learnt that your this. If this were devante Parker I'd be like absolutely parker. She's bigger than their offense lines. Probably more popular dolphins just I Mitchell Schwartz right. Tackle can't honestly honestly name it like a offens guy you've watched every dolphins game this year grain and name me one of the five a year. They had two that. Were really good but they traded both talking about a talking about this but in the eyes of the person that I'm having direct negotiations we are. She do not assume in twenty twenty NAM. Tom You okay yeah. We're GONNA like my chances a little bit more. Maybe a shipping container. But I had to explain the history the of the show like pretty much to finish but I think they're excited. I just wouldn't have to do that. If you're a dolphins offensive lineman they'd just be like yeah you can drop the puck you WanNa play. You could play whatever you want it. Certainly in the eyes of this person I would have rather have been a dolphins offensive lineman eh but I will maintain that we are more popular the shipping container as a unit nationally resonates more than the dolphins offensive line. And so what's what are we. What's the what was the result? The result is we're still negotiating. Like exactly what you GONNA do okay. But I'm pretty sure I'm not open. Then it's no no no no. I'm pretty sure guiding typing owens so perfect if a dolphins offensive lineman opens the Dan Dow. I hope the panthers are listening and they somehow make that happen because that would be like with him. We pinball I genuinely hope so too so I can figure out what one of these guys looks like. Yeah because I would love her dolphins often sublime and actually be there for the troll and use specifically billy to not no hard confirmed for this event. Yes David Sampson neck capital. No one knows. Life doesn't alert you about your credit card. That's why we created Iino the capital win assistant decanters things that might look with your credit card like over tipping duplicate charges. The potential fraud then sends an alert to your phone and helps you fix it. It's another way capital. One is watching out for your money when you're not capital one. What's in your wallet? It seek capital Lynn Dot com for details. It is Oscar Week and as always we bring on our movie. The expert David Samson hosts of nothing. Personal with David Samson sparky our friend. It was a little awkward last week. You don't really have to go back and listen to it. It's definitely definitely GONNA be a Sui nominee but David welcome back. You're amongst friends. Everyone's in the studio. How are you today? I'm doing fine. I'm lying on a couch right now just in case. But I'm doing great well like I said Oscar Week so cinema takes center stage in pop culture. Let's get to your movie review. And then I WANNA fool Oscar breakdown of what you expect to happen okay. So I Miss Bruce. springsteen he has not been touring these off Broadway Way and he released a new album of western stars and Western stars album on. I listen have you ever had an album from one of your favorite musicians additions and you listen to it and you think my God. I don't like this. It's the first time I don't like something he's doing. But then you listen again and then the third time you get it and you start loving it. And that's a western stars was for me. And then he made a documentary which was really him performing the album in a barn that he owns on a property somewhere. I WOULD ASSUME UPSTATE JERSEY could be Florida. I don't know where he had this huge orchestra behind him and he was telling L. Ing Stories about what the songs meant and so often. I listen to songs that I have no idea what they mean. Even while looking at the list I loved it. It was an hour and a half of learning about. What's inside his mind? and He's you know a seventy year old guys been doing this a long time. Here's Springsteen Fan. Western stars is definitely for you and this documentary that's associated with it. has gotten some sort of critical acclaim to just has viewing experience. I was that yet. It's it's not so it's not a concert film so I thought sometimes musicians do concert films. It's not like Tommy. The WHO's Tommy where it's a staged A play or musical. That has the music from the album. This is him performing an album. But it's an a very intimate setting and it comes with stories raise but he narrates so the only voice you hear. The entire documentary is his vocals background. Narration Patty is wife. Patti Eddie scalper has a tiny bit of background vocals. She's on stage for a few of the songs. But it's just bruce all bruce nothing but bruce I guys it's like getting your fix and I got a good fix David. What the hell of the red SOx doing? So if they try to. mookie Betts the other day and if they're you're not willing to resign one of the best players in baseball for a huge contract. Is this kind of a little glimpse of what's to come in terms of teams being not Willing to give these contracts. No I think what you're seeing is. The Red Sox tried to resign him. They put a value on him. They they had to get under the luxury tax threshold because they didn't WANNA keep paying tax and they said you know what if he's not going to agree in advance when extension no problem. We're going to try. Try to get back some players for him because he only has a year left. And we'RE NOT GONNA win this year anyway and so they did a very smart move. which by the way is in jeopardy which is one of the parts of nothing personal today? It's I'm having absolute flashbacks to the time that we traded with the San Diego Padres And there's some injury issues so the trade is on hold for the moment. Oscar Week David loud positive momentum building behind behind this movie parasite which four language film won the Golden Globe for Best Foreign Language Film. Will we actually see parasite walk away with the most prestigious. Just war best picture. That's why I'm so excited because remember when they won the Golden Globe and we talked about it on. This show actually talked about getting over the inch right. You have to get over the fact that you can watch a movie with subtitles and it can still be the best movie of the year to me. It's the best movie of the year and I. I have one and move left to see one nominated movie left to say and I will see it this weekend. I've not seen Joe Joe Rabbit. Yes but for all the nine movies nominated. I Love Watching Watch upon a time in Hollywood. That would be my second choice. I've got parasite one once upon a time in Hollywood to it'll be interesting to see whether there's momentum for nineteen seventeen. Yeah I think there's more. So on the best director side Percent Mendez. Can you imagine the guy who directed American beauty is now. The guy directed this sort of war. Peace this sort of beautiful to watch war peace in one take. But I think it's a two horse race between parasite and once upon a time in Hollywood and and we're expecting Brad Pitt. To be the big winner of Oscar night in terms of comeback fully complete. He walks away with Oscar. The Great Question Mike Ricci ever gone yet I mean what happened with that divorce with Angelina Jolie and his name being out there in public and allegations nations of Of Striking is children. It was it was a really ugly public divorce and he had bowed with alcoholism. So this is a nice little comeback. I'm back story if you're into like the gossip side of Hollywood Especially yeah so I. I didn't see him as gone. I saw him is embroiled in in in the world of insanity that is a woman who carries vials billy Bob Thornton blood around her neck I to me it's more He found a row where he's finally. We're GONNA get recognized. He's been in movies where I think he should have won an Oscar only as one Oscar for producing best picture. Twelve years a slave has no acting Oscars I would have given to him for when he played Benjamin Button For sure but he's been really good and a lot of movies he was really good in once upon a time in Hollywood but this feels more like Selena DiCaprio and the revenues where they just decided. Finally your time to win. Although I don't think that was Leonardo's best role in the residence I thought he was better on Wolf of Wall Street for example But this is his year to win an acting Oscar four score book it that it do anything you can David you. One that sits down and goes it was like category by category and picks your own winners for each category. Do you just kind of enjoy the show. Oh every year I FILL OUT NOT ONLY DO I. You know me well right not only do. Do I feel out of ballot every year. I keep track and save every ballot that I've done for the past ten or fifteen years so I can sort of track how I do each particular year ear. What my record is and no I take it dead seriously? I don't like going to any Oscar parties. Ever 'cause I am locked in I'm listening to and watching pre-game during the game. Post game is a lockdown day for me how do you do like what is your record. The Best I've ever gotten is Missed two ooh and in order to only miss to you have to get the the categories right where you don't have all the information you do your research and make your best guess but like live animated animated short. The year that Kobe won for deer basketball. You vote for that. 'cause you think they're gonNA WANNA give an Oscar Kobe Bryant as an example. You look for names that have tragedy in them. You Know I. I usually tend to vote a small live action movies or documentaries shorts that are about some sort of hold lacoste like event. Those tend to win something about children. Those tend to win so you sort of look at titles. There's certain categories where I don't see everything but in the main categories going into Oscar night. I will have seen every single movie nominated for anything. How many voters do you think? Vote the same way you do where you're like you know what I know that. This theme is a theme. That typically wins this is about the children is about whatever so. That's the movie that ends up winning. Whatever category it is not necessarily the best movie so it doesn't happen that way in the real world live animated shorts that people who vote for that or people in the live animated short sections actions of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences? So it's not like you've got a person who builds sets who is voting on what the live animated short would be because that's not their sort of niche in the industry. So that is why you can look for the most sad sack title. That would pull up the heartstrings of the most people goal but at the end of the day the best movie end up because people voting those categories have seen everything in those categories in your eyes. What is the most egregious? Best Best Picture winner because I think for me. The one that I always remember growing up is Shakespeare in love beating Saving Private Ryan in Your Eyes David Samson Hansen. Who who cares more about movies and has been A fan of cinema longer than I have. Which is the most egregious best picture winner? I'M GONNA get to that but I wanNA talk doc. I knew you were going to say because everyone says it's to me. Shakespeare in love is one of my all time favorite movies. I thought it was a better more brilliant movie than Saving Private Ryan which by the way is probably my number one quote unquote war movie way better than nineteen seventeen to me. It's way better than platoon Way better than any of them deer hunter all of it but that particular year Shakespeare in love if you go back and watch that movie now if you can get past sort of what your view is Gwyneth paltrow now as a person and just go back to what it was to have acted and done that role. The way she did and jokes defines defines the way they brought Romeo and Juliet to life and all of the supporting Actors Forget Geoffrey Rush and his off court troubles that that it was the best movie that year for me You'd have to go back all the way to win crash one and I liked crash. I just didn't and find it to be the best picture. I actually liked la La land better than moonlight when that happened. as you were called Moonlight beat La La land. Even though La Orlando with announced by Warren Beatty remember that whole get that is Ri- Conic Oscar Moments Faye Dunaway announced Warren Warren Beatty put Faye dunaway out on the island. Because he's always going on and he was confused. I feel bad for both of them in that situation. That was a nightmare. First of all seen how. How old to me Warren Beatty? Look I hadn't seen him in a while that was off putting to me Because to me he's always bugsy right he's always having can wait and and time just keeps marching on. But I thought la La land was a better movie was more worthy of best picture moonlight. Even the moonlight is another great movie. So I would say that in crash crash and I just can't remember off the top of my head what I wanted to win that year. I just didn't find crashed to be worthy investiture. That was a week year though for Movies I think and it was just like sometimes academy just like puts like movies about Hollywood and Los Angeles on a pedestal. And I thought that that was the case with crash that year David Samson host of nothing personal make sure to follow him on twitter and subscribe to that. PODCAST does a great job a friend of the show. We'll talk to you next week. David they take care of thank you see a IBM problems inspire us to push the world forward. That's why so many people work with us on everything from city. Traffic to ocean in plastic. SMART LOVES PROBLEMS IBM. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT com slash. SMART learn more. The thing went a little better than last time credit to get a radio but definitely radio us. I thought it was. I think I think you were just like wow these guys genuinely or this is uncomfortable. I think uncomfortable I I would. I told that both to Jason. I and David who both called me afterwards and sometimes awkward. Radio is good radio. I do think last week. Sort of miss the mortgage and if it fell on the side of mean Jason as soon as apologetic to me and not necessarily the David. But I appreciate Jason Checking up and making sure that we were good and obviously I spoke to David. That was. Yeah that was that was uncomfortable. No doubt Certainly assuming nominee. How are you guys like here? Because I was next to Jason. Who was the cause? I think you're in the morning show uncomfortable spot I. I was just feeling uncomfortable. Yeah I don't know how you're feeling there with it but it was definitely a little uncomfortable here because it just felt like Mike said it just. I saw it because Jason is a little sticky in terms of. He likes to go for the joke. Can we're trying to be funny here. But he yeah. It landed on the side of awkward. I mean yeah and I hadn't necessarily funny. It wasn't wasn't fun to be a part of but we've pressed on and we made a Sui nominee out of it. So let's have some more awkward moments with callers. Billy I sure. Why do you have a friend's calendar? The Renzo gave it to me for. What was this a Christmas gift that I got today? Apparently because you've got to send it. It's very nice of him. It's a friend's calendar. Because I came up with the friends movie movie idea my only. I didn't get anyone else around here anything for Christmas. That's it's it's a nice gesture though you know it's harsh on holder is name on their anywhere. Oh my God. No harsh is gone. Our friend from India Komo are one fan from India's. Hey what's up man. I'd Harsha all right. So we're GONNA have to go somewhere else. Horseshoe was GONNA go first line what I want to talk about so we have a Christian. I have a difference in in how we screen the calls. We have a different philosophy. Yeah I like Maybe it's old school because when I broke in the Biz I was always doing like John. Where are you calling from West Palm then our show specifically the Dan Le Batard show? Oh I realized that the host didn't give a crap about where the person was calling for somehow. Still Do. Yeah I actually like if someone has a unique name. I don't put where they're from long ago. Oh that's cool. No we won't have any other longest. But if we have an Aaron or Dan I like being able to say. Oh what differentiates. You aren't from Memphis to connect with people with that. Yeah I didn't I did with our Shah Harsha. Yeah I think it's our shot by the way by based off talking to him earlier earlier but he he's from India we I mean we spoke with. Yeah he he you may be right. He just didn't correct said it like three times and I was like. Oh Yeah I mean and then I was like spell it and they they did You know I I got it from the source but anyways that's neither here nor there. He was from India and I put it up there because that met my standard of interesting where he's from Damn Dan Online to. Who's got a super bowl observation? What do you WanNa talk about where we get an online to where you want to talk about? But there's nothing special about Dan Ryan. There's something special about everybody. Needs Jan to figure out Dan. Hey guys hey Dan why you special. He's from Vermont. I sedan from Vermont. Yeah Yeah Oh dan from Vermont. I recognize any. Yeah that's right. Let's go catamounts. TJ Sorenson. Why are you slur cop all right so my super bowl? It's a food observation more than observations right. So I'm I'm sitting by myself on the couch after the super bowl several IPA's in and obviously I get hungry now living in Vermont. There's no ubereats here. There's there's really not even store anywhere close. You basically just have to make do with what you have in in your house So as I'm looking through my my fridge I see hot dogs you know. I guess I could eat hot dogs but then I see They can next to it. And I had this revelation maybe other people do it. Fried up a couple of strips of Bacon Fried hotdog through them in together delicious. Wow I mean. I've heard of Bacon wrapped hot dogs. So yeah I'm up up up here we don't we don't have that fancy stuff you know basic food here you know you discovered Bacon wrapped talk dogs. I like it and it was good. What you would you put on it any condiments when you gotTa Bacon a little little little mustard and I and I do catch up on hotdogs okay? I ruined it for something. I do both mustard and ketchup. Yeah why are you in New York right now from Vermont so I live right on the border of Vermont. New York. Actually technically I live in New York but I always tell people I live in Vermont because if you say you live the New York people assume you live in the city and I'm far from the race so you're a liar so I'm a liar right I was. I was kind of expecting you to catch it. Billy I was expecting you to like see the area code own and you know go on some some crazy rabbit work in Vermont from I work in Vermont matter because all right I guess my house if if I throw a rock if I'm standing my back porch and throw a rock it's going to land in Burma sleeve that say okay. Are you on your back. Porch Video I. I'm in I'm in New York. I can send you guys a picture of a monument that I have that divides the states the property. So that's awesome hit with Iraq. Gee I am Brillgo I L L v O oh five one eight. I take things very literal Iraq I will. I will send swells. Brill all right. Let's let's do this again. To Al Brill Dough. Do like Dildo. But no I got a I got an Sylvia. Sylvia Brill Bodo. That's not U. B. R. I L. L. D. O.. Five on how do we. We know by the way that your yard is like right up against the Border Vermont. I'll follow back requested okay. I'm -gratulations Oh thank you. Thank you and I just had a baby to. Let's see back. I'm GonNa make of Mike all the special things about him. The most special things he said he. He's got a monument in his backyard that he can throw a rock at and it's not an oxymoron from New York and land in Vermont. All of which I might have known if I knew this was Dan. I'm from Vermont it's debatable I mean you know without without putting my address out here I could show you guys exactly where I live on. The property. Believe you'll never lied to me So he lied about being from Vermont. He's started this off. He listened New York. I have to. I have to do that because travel when you say that you're from New York. Everybody instantly assumes that you're from New York City I don't want to be part I don't WanNa make I have friends that live in Syracuse. I don't think that I know that they don't live. In the city I I went to college in Syracuse actually acting. But I'm like a few hours West Kurt East affair. Most people lie in the other direction though. Most people say they're from New York who live in Vermont. Urine from your like doing the opposite of what I like your style l. as Mike can probably see if he's on my instagram. I'm quite the outdoorsman. I am not a so-called city slicker. Ever go on Hikes Ourself Canc- because you request. Oh I'm sorry that's hikes place. I do I do do I. Am I gonNA Freak you out. I go HIK- I go on hikes on myself in the dark. You bring a light like do you have your your phone. Late is like well. Congratulations on on a future episode of forty eight hours mysteries. Yeah this might get me kicked off the show forever because if Dan ever here's this so probably shun me forever. But I am a hunter so I go out in the woods and by myself with a weapon. Typically you ever white you ever hunt the most dangerous game. No not really that much for dangerous game around here. It's like you're in Turkey and stuff like that like idea ever just like sometimes like is. Is there a shotgun. But I have a shot and then I I do a lot of hunting I hunt. What about Oh how had a weird dream last night that I was being hunted at a Disney park who by Disney security? What did you do? It was a case of mistaken. Identity was it Yeah Yeah how did that sounds like it could be a good and like I was going through all all star wars ride. And it's like I don't want to say exactly what happened but like the dream turned deadly. It woke me up I was at two thirty. There's there's nothing better to him. There's nothing better when you're about to die in a dream and you're just like you know what time to wake up. There are lots of things better but that feeling of the quick realization station. You guys ever get this in a dream. Where at the very end? You just have this moment in the dream where you're like. Oh I can we can just wake up. I'm not GonNa die I love the am am. I'm back yeah. They don't call him Dan from Vermont. He's Dan from New York Dan from New York but it can throw a rock from New York allegedly. Well it's it's been a real pleasure and yes semi that video of the monument. Yeah well we're g once you accept the request. Yeah I accepted it. So we're all right. Okay Okay Dan by Dan Harsher Lucia pronunciation. Yeah all right Harsha Russia first things first. How do we pronounce your name? Friend of the show Harsha Yeah you just shine sort of hot shot shot. It doesn't sound like I feel like I was like give it to me one more time. It's like hotshot. Yeah it's GonNa Harsh. I'M NOT GONNA do offensive right. We don't want to know. Is that okay with you hearken I am I right by saying it like this the hottest show I would avoid that name correctly. You find that offensive Sensitivity to stay awake twenty fourteen fourteen all right six years show. What's on your yeah like last time? It was unprepared for this time I island have probably bring a bit of Trivia like on game. It's nothing fancy just a make us great It's off on the regarding despite the word and you guys can come down okay But like some ground rules. I think no googling or using the web you have my word. That's fair okay. I started off It's pretty hard to go on some people even culpable block. Is there any. It sounds like you're backing away from the phone occasionally. Is there any way that I can get your voice directly on the phone because I wanted calling from India. I know this is voice over. Internet are you're a headset on. I'm just trying to. How can you feel a little bit better but get let you know what? Let's just do your thing. So is it true or false to announce states. You were false. I didn't hear the question much. Listen to him. I won't be state right. Yeah so it is pretty common. How Indian Street and some people even touch the good luck? I was going to go with false based off the phrase hold on a second can ask you follies Parsa. Yeah are we talking about like in the city. What type of street are we talking about? Your in your could say even even like for example my city by Yeah It's a second part of this question that I'm not entirely sure I know a AH. Cows are often seen in India. But I don't I don't know of people leave them be. That's the part that made me think it was true. That say I'm going to say true true. I mean trump's Andrew Billy ionica false thing because everybody else said through. This is just trying to get a job. I've also seen a lot of amazing race and and I've seen the episodes in India and that's why I'm kind of asking what part of India we're talking about here and what you consider common and not we'll just let you say if it's false. It's true it's quite common to seek out on streets. Yes yes but it was a whole like touching good luck was yes people do that. Now what do you do you touch them for. Good luck. No I don't talk so I'm GonNa get myself half credit for that one because you don't do it. How can I ask you a question a true or false question for you okay? True or false. The ship container nationally has a higher profile than the dolphins offensive. Line is presently you have to ask them internationally because he doesn't live in the United States Z.. Internationally easily I think. I don't know any of the Miami on small sample size but we're winning. Thank you very much how to show all right. What's the next next question? Okay the second one most middle class households here do not have any conditioning. I'm GONNA say true. Yeah that's true. I'm going to say false. This is middle class households. Hoping you know that if you go up to the northeast and up to Canada most middle class households you don't have air-conditioning either. Yeah that's that's that's not an immediate thing that's just like in south Florida. We cannot get by without a taunt possible. Okay I'M GONNA say true but again. This is one of those questions that I mean most is there's wiggle room here. I don't think this would be legally binding questions and the answer. What is the end? I mean air conditioning unit. All right people have all your answers are going to be true full disclosure. My Dad used to travel to India often for business so I feel like I have a leg up on this but let's keep going who stifled in India and my dad was he sold the service a collection service and the call center was operated out of India and he was basically he was going it to companies. I'm like I'm going to sell you. This call center service. It's based out of India. So That's what my dad did for awhile. My Dad's a bit of a man of mystery though because I I really don't know what he does. Right now yeah I know he has a job and instead of going to go and I all the time you could be a drug dealer. And he's just lied to you that you should mention that because my dad has the exact same name aim as like a most wanted drug dealer every time like we'd go to. What if we stopped? He had this huge letter. Like No. This happens all the time. I'm not this one. We beat detained. Wow All for like ninety minutes at the border. Did you ever think like maybe. Let's not go to Canada against this happens every time I mean I did but it it honestly happened. While we were traveling domestically to like he was just flagged because he had the same exact name as this big kingpin proceed with the true or false game. Okay Eh Basketball is the most popular sport in India who um false false easy falls for me. I have a lot of conviction I show. This is also. These are all subjective. Now I can tell you what the number one sport is. I'm going with true. I'll say falls it's cricket. Yes certain things I mean. These are the easiest question ever Roy. You and I are tied for the lead. Right yes sir debatable. Yeah backing no are taking some creative liberties with positions. Okay so this one EH Sport Related agreeing on the taxes with cricket yeah so the Cricket World Cup semifinal between India and New Zealand in two thousand nineteen ninety million. That's five times that super bowl. True false false else. You're tying just domestically worldwide Internet International. Yeah a little bit of my problem is with. This look might say true. But I'M GONNA say false because you said that the the Super Bowl it was one fifth of four hundred ninety five internationally and if one hundred million people viewed it in the United States than more than that viewed it internationally internationally. So I'm GONNA say falls. Your number may be right on how many people watch the cricket World Cup but more than that. Watch the Super Bowl. I'm just saying true now. More more than the World Cup. More than one hundred million people. Chris what was your guests said true. I'M GONNA say all right so this is like a tiebreaker. Between Royan I. Hey Yo yeah like in I mean from my research. It's cool off off expert now. The number but my point is like a much more than the support you I. I'm with you on that. My only point point of contention was four times. That's it but I'm not getting up on that. I've learned the four hundred ninety five people watch that show. Was that the last question I I have one last one. Jeez gotTa hang on my lead. Here we go. What's the score the point where? I don't think that's true most Indians think that diehard what is the top movie true has to be true. That's true diehard original dia question everybody thinks whatever Mike Says Patrick has got it Roy. So Grad right rarity set you Roy said true. Well then I'm just going to protect. This is another one harsh. I don't WanNA WANNA be that guy but most Indians you don't know a baby's going false. Actually I was being like I. I was kidding so I it's true that horse it came out shit forgot what show he was on. I was GonNa Harsh I really like you. You're great and if you WANNA come by with a quiz every time you say you want you want to buy with that to wait. Did you WanNa talk about something else or just quiz us know what had awesome all right. Good thank you so much thank you you too bye bye. I wanted to talk a little bit about Inner Miami. That was fun. It was really fun. I really enjoy the call so far today today. Inter Miami dropped their kits last night and real or the same day last time there was league so the League versions of the Inter. Miami Amy Kit at least for the away kit. This is proven to be true. All black very plain no sponsor on it Most people are disappointed. With how how the the kit looks. Billy did you see the renderings and yet it now very disappointing. So far now the real question is is the League for the home home. Kit could it be true. Are they going to abandon the White Jersey that was universally panned on twitter. The fans one hand. I wish we would have talked about this before so we could ask ask Samson about that because I wonder I wonder about the leaking of the marlins uniforms when they leaked those. Yeah we'll ask him next next week. Let's make sure Because that's that was an interesting moment for the Miami Marlins but excuse me I I want to say that things are fine all right I just this is this is it looks so dated a this is not an inter- Miami thing this is this stems. From Melissa's this is partnership with Adidas. Where Adidas doesn't really have to get creative and most teams have the SA- the same set template? I really hope though that they learn from the feedback and don't go white tops for the home. We need something to distinguish they can make it could be a slam dunk if we just have pink tops. Yeah but I wanted to talk a little bit all the home all the home kits white. MLS No home. Kits are whatever sill like. It's different in soccer Your Home Kit. You wear on the road. Most often often like Chelsea's home. Kit Is all blue right. Yeah and you often see them playing on the road on the run into another team that plays at home with traditionally blue colors. Then they'll go to one of their right or away kit or alternate. Yeah so the home look will be warned. I want to estimate like seventy five percent of the time but I actually WanNa talk about Inter Inter Miami. The club because Alexi Lalas actually had some comments that made sense were honest and there were kind of critical because in Miami. If you follow the history of this entire franchise so far. It's been awfully delayed. They're not even playing in Miami Planning Law Cart. They're always linked to these big names But they haven't really signed anybody. Noise substance it just seems like a a true Miami industry so far and it's not even in Miami. I don't think they've done a single thing to get anyone. That is not a die hard soccer fan. I don't think there were a month away from the season season. We're not even a month away from the season and I don't really feel like outside a passionate soccer fans. There is a single bit of buzz around the Siem. I actually want to ask. Ask Billy because this town is desperate for winter they want to gravitate towards something exciting. There is nothing before he gets wasn't wasn't their thing is that there's a market here four soccer so there are establish docker fans here that we're trying to tap into their is Miami and I think the Fort Lauderdale thing is a big deal right so like when I bought season tickets it's like the easiest sale this rep ever made because I love soccer. I'M GONNA be there regardless I've been wanting professional soccer in south Florida forever. I'll drive at my ass up to Fort Lauderdale. I'll buy tickets. That haven't even been built yet. You don't even need December the renderings. Here's my credit card. Take my money and I think there's plenty of people like that. But who are they getting eh just sort of casual they got to compete with other teams for your dollars. They have ticket packages. So what are they doing. I mean they did get Greg Cody but he lives in the also loves soccer. That's true but I would still call him at this point like not a guy that's like I need to get season tickets to something and he wanted it. I'm curious Roy Billy. You're not big soccer guys. Are you going to watch the first game. Is this something that's at all of interest to you. Know I didn't even other starting in a month. I would say that they're doing fine if they get people like you to go L. because they'd be wasting their time trying to go after me Oh watch it on TV. I would. I would definitely go if I was credential. I'd go for free. Maybe if I got free tickets but I'm not gonNA like buy season tickets to a team that that's a bummer. That that's a real bummer. And I feel like they had such an opportunity down here when it was first announced there was almost more plenty of people. Well I mean. Don't be sad because I don't care about it like they'll get plenty. There's plenty of soccer fans down here. I just wish because like I don't even think they're necessarily competing with other teams for for the money on stuff and for fans like their soccer fans that don't care about basketball or baseball football. That will go to these games. Regardless was hoping that this would be something that would sort of transcend whether or not like it would be something that you would at least watch on television for the first. How are the sales? Could they be doing really well like. Are we going to small stadium. So are we going to show up that first first game and it's going to be like Oh all right this fan they got a good amount of people first game I e judge it right. Yeah I know that they look they have some really like fantastic ASPIC support clubs already. That have been practicing their chants and songs and even showed up to the MLS all star game and causes seen. I think once you see it on television especially that home home atmosphere that's going to resonate and people are going to see that and be like oh I wanna be a part of that. That seems like a fun experience. But they don't have like a name on in their team. That would be like okay. This is interesting. Like let's say for example. They signed. Louis Suarez maybe billy would be like. Oh that's a guy that bit somebody in the World Cup. It's all about they. I'm just saying like you need to just accept that there's people that don't like everybody doesn't like the same things like there's world class opera houses here in museums and stuff like that that I've never seen one of you guys have ever been to the Opera House just I. This is a city with a lot of things to do when people like different things. I'm someone that's fine you're comparing. I'm sorry you're comparing soccer. Like like the arts and soccer mom still sport and you do like sports like if there was a major league Lacrosse team that was playing at. Fau that either. Yeah I wouldn't support it. There's a soccer team that plays at Fau. And I went to one game. It was actually really fun to see. Yeah but you went to a game I. I'm just differ. How many years? They had plenty of games there. I went to one game and I hope you don't meet minutes away. This is not a reflection on you at all. I actually think that I don't care if you know not upset you. I think you actually represent like the casual South Florida Sports Fan and I think Miami is really biff. Did so far with this launch. What could they be doing doing though outside of just getting players? Obviously they did a good job. I mean they built up all this hype with nothing. They didn't have a team. They don't have a stadium they didn't have players and they had all these people excited headed for years. I'm I'm one of those guys that has the whole time been saying to you like I'm excited about this. I'm going to get tickets but I'm not gonNA feel really invested until I hear like somebody they give me a name. Give me your name. I think they're doing a good job like building soccer roster if you pay attention to mls or read up on some of these South American players that they have brought over mcdonagh the GM does a really good job in building teams. Has He Atlanta United Success under his belt. Yeah I do think that there is like even without without like the Cavani or huge name associated that you've always heard them linked to. There is a case to be made that this team might actually be good. Yeah but I want to share this with people. I run into soccer fans all the time. I think the same people that I'm going to be seeing that this game of the same people that are going to the pub at seven am. I was just hoping that this would be something at launch. Yeah that would be bigger. That would at least get some curiosity. I don't think that they've done enough. The logo launches really like the only thing that has gone well is David Silva was the Davits Avid Silva has been a name. They've been linked to a millionaire. It'd been linked to Pedro. They've been linked to Cavani Let's not even for sure either. That's another speculation. It's all speculation. They have one more DP. He's got their food is Maury from Monterey. WHO's an Argentinian player? But plays in the Mexican league. Who's one of the better players Max? None or no this is a Everton had as more he has a brother. Okay Yeah That plays internationally but this player is going to once he this deal becomes official Shaw. He's going to step on a major league soccer pitch and be one of the top ten players in the league and perhaps compete with like he could be Carlos Davila good. There's a lot of value in league AMEX. Ms Because they're not paying the wages. That team like Inter Miami can't but that's not a real marketable player. Many people listening to this podcast right now are hearing this name for for the first time. I was hoping that they would get a player that you know. The casual fan is heard of that. Greg Cody has heard. I saw a report that macy's GonNa leave our CELONA. Honestly I shot. It's become like you're in our our fantasy soccer group chat and keep up with that chapter. Yes it's become a meme anytime someone's available always seemed to be linked to somebody but the signings things haven't been there and I'm just really bummed that they haven't done anything to excite the south Florida sports market outside of the people that they knew they already had. Maybe pink kits thinks everything taste. Yeah let's go to one more call because we can't close on Inter Miami. Oh by the way. I'm going to be a part of ESPN's coverage pre-game before the Inter. Miami Amy L.. AFC game on twitter at pre-game show. I'M GONNA find out this week. I'm on a conference call but hosting a pregame show from L. AFC. I think it's Bank of California Cornea Stadium. which is I've heard a tremendous place to watch a game? I'm going to be out there for the first game more details on that. Let's go to a call. Do it was called the. Let's go food Louis Four. I just saw John Though and he wants to be bitten by fast. 'cause actually that's true you always go to the front of the line on his second. You just Louis. We'll go to Lewis talk to both people guys. We'll talk to both know you could do that again. On which ones should we got to I Lewis you said Lewis or Louis but I forgot about Joshua's go to whoever you want. It's either of sorry all right. Sorry Lewis you're on the Indus now Lewis. Yes Hi how are you have everything. Oh my call us the job so we'll get to everybody's call started questions like that. I think differently than everybody else. Apparently I put my catch up in the fridge. My mother-in-law look at me like I'm crazy. I do that too once. You Open mother-in-law's crazy thank you. I put yogurt on night. People people people are telling me. Why did they are supposed to put on in the morning after so opposed so big po- shower before bed? You deodorize the New People. Look at me like I'm crazy. Yeah that's crazy Seattle. I'm keeping score by the way you're crazy. Crazy Roy Moore. Oh I think about it. I also put my catch up in the refrigerator but I think I might be better off not putting it in the refrigerator. I like coal ketchup. Okay but that's where you get like the juicy like the the catch hatrick water which. I don't think you get that if you put restaurant exactly. Yeah I don't think that's when you go to McDonalds. Packages czar not into frigerator the route. So maybe I don't know maybe it's a tossup I'm more on either right after shower you're clean. Why do you need to deodorized like? Are you sweating at night on. I don't think it's a habit I gather shower brushing my teeth. I put iota and on when I turn the morning when I saw her nights. Max just what I do we hold on a second. Do you shower every morning and every night or you just every time I take a shower you put on the odor so if you we are in the morning do you put a second hold yoder and on the question actually do what kind of deodorant They might have. I'd I never took it degrees. Yeah I I don't know if I mine has aluminum either. No I wasn't asking about that I wanNA chalky one or that's all right. What's the next thing that makes you crazy or not crazy Coffee Dictionary making so much so we don't have a column morning around five PM. I'll have a Lotta right before I start unloading the truck all throughout the day. Whenever I walk by people that have coffee? They offered the take it and then Cuban thing right before bed right after dinner coffee. Not Crazy you're on like well like four or five cups of coffee a day. Yeah and then shot their coworkers offered. That's a lot of sugar men on a little worried about you to be honest when when I do about myself I do it. No sugar because you went keytar one point so I only have sugar when someone offers. Okay just be careful about the same. I feel like a lot of people drink a lot of coffee though. Daba all all the things to to to overindulge. This is an American coffee soft Cuban conflict. Right I mean we're we're we have no room to talk here. We do like four shots of take off your debt. People makes a best call. Yeah on a roll to last week so we have people that makes us our Kathy toes here here and I am admittedly. I'm new to the coffee game but that is the best coffee though. I mean billy your seat though expert for resident. It's pretty good. It's it's pretty good but where can I get like the best Gothi Lamey. I mean my grandmother but she's not going to be happy for you guys right. You shouldn't bring anyone's it'd be cold but it's it's from You know I know. I have just getting her. Coughing is except that like C- Cuba copying EXAC. I promised him today and I failed you so maybe tim I bring him bring. I'm telling you why because it's not going to happen. Okay Not GonNa wake up in the morning to make coffee no I just it drive over there. Okay that's that makes better. It just seemed mean. Yeah Yeah you don't WanNa Offi. It's just I don't WanNa give it to you. You guys aren't going to get the honesty anything else. I'll buy a car and statistically Arthur. Well took a big hit. That's true. Yeah hit and for the windshield. Yeah I've I thought it was going to jump on the hood. The windshield seems to be painful. Have you ever been hit by a car. The Wind Chill Kendall absorbs a little bit. I don't want to crack down Louis. Have you been hit by a car because listen back yesterday. I thought we were a little flippant about like because billy was like very like I mean. It's not you're not gonNA get hit by a car. Obey the rules of the road and then everyone started calling everyone that we spoke to it got hit by a car so I think it actually happens a little bit more often than we probably. I said you're not going to get hit walking walking three blocks from the garage to hear if you're obeying the rules of the road at seven in the morning when there's very few cars. I think it's still a chance I mean I'm I'm GonNa try to get hit by a car to be right one of these. I'm GONNA win either. The dolphins offensive line or get hit by a car. So I may get hit by a car just to prove you wrong. You get hit by a car now if you'd like Oh also big Dolphin Fan. I've had students. They don't Dolphins Orlando Convention. Cook or more so Mike might have wanted that one appreciate you Louis to Kilgore forgot all right. Thank you some weight so overall you're not crazy. You only had three options and two of them were deemed not crazy. So you're not crazy congratulations. WBZ appreciate you. Let's go to John John. John is crazy. You've just add. John John Says I want to get bit by a shark. John where are you calling from. I'm calling from Clermont but I tell people I'm from Puerto Rico. Some thirty liar. Boy John were also awesome. Okay I'm good. Why Shark okay? Service Orissa long winded and try to save with but I worked for an unnamed Radio Station Company back in Milwaukee Wisconsin and I went onto a cavs bucks game back when the cavs had Lebron James the first time through. And so we're broncos offer fifty five points. It was the amazing game after the game. This is my first time ever in a locker room or anything like that. And so I'm talking to the judicial gaskets about like the All star break or something was coming up EXE- and behind and behind me. I hear if someone go. I think I'm going to have some juicy and I turn around. I Look Lebron. James is standing stark raving naked. saunters off into the a shower with no explanation of what's going on so completely dumbfounded I turn back to the and I'm just like And he just chuckles. Because you know I'm starstruck. I don't know what's going on so the problem with this. Is I live very ordinary life so anytime someone has an awesome story. I just hear myself inside being. I'm going to tell the Lebron James Story and it's so awkward when I do it so I'm like what can I do so I have a story better than I'm going to get uh-huh I actually like the preamble. The preamble made the topics that much better than interested in it about this. I also have a question. So yes sir. You're so Lebron on keep no. Don't down through this. You know we're not GONNA do. This aren't going to go about getting bit by I would. I would ominously if I were you. Go for Small Shark in Lega Control Environment and like fine like a crazy person. That's willing to let their shark attack. You just tell me this a big yard early villain who had people I mean some people have typically most. Most people are okay after they get bit by shirt. You don't feel like I wait around. Coco beach just type via. Don't make light of this. This is terrible idea. Little Shark. That's a horse on well. If you go with that plan you playing a lottery no man. That's the tiger shark or something like that. That may take a limb. Yeah just a little child so I can show the scholar. That's off you know. Have a great story the rest of my life. So I don't have to tell the ACKWARD Lebron James Story and have people ask me. Why don't you just see your follow up when you just lie and so you got bit by a Shark Doc? And you'll be fine. No one will know. Why don't you don't WanNa be a dirty liar? Though I I respect you too much you know how much you'd hate that Sir. You're playing with your life. You're risking death or serious injury to just tell people you got good play short. You don't WanNa tell me if I'm waiting. You think if I go like die hi there is a guy across the hall that works here for. ESPN deport is attacked by a shark. And he tore his Achilles like it ripped his Achilles and he was is going around on one of those little like half scooter things for like months and is now just walking again and was like extremely lucky that nothing else happened to him but in Johnston the case scenario and I'm like worth it now worth mock them knowing it's never the same worst case scenario. Is You die yeah John. That's the worst case scenario to him was kind of best case scenario and I even ask him I go. That's such a cool story. You got bit by a shark. Would you do it again again. From the story and he said absolutely not. Why don't look just find someone that has like a little baby shark like an aquarium and just like stick your hand in but like like stick your hand in with like some sort of like protective things? That doesn't like bite. You like in the risks and you bleed out or something I don't know and then like I'll still just end up being like. Hey guess with what I saw Lebron James Naked like that awkward silences you also have the option to not tell people that back to Lebron no that occurs to me he but it just comes out anyway and I've been hit by a car twice in your twice hold on a second billy. That's why don't did you tell people that story and also how did you get hit by a court. I kind of feel like it's your fault. No one of them absolutely was my fault Because so many people like you said have been hit by a car. It's not that cool. The story I mean who's seen the king naked so one time I had my headphones on and I cross through traffic without looking. And I got side swiped And the kid he was like sixteen he was freaking out. And I was freaking out and I'm like I'm so sorry and he's like it's okay okay. Eighty drove off And any other time I was just crossing a road on campus and got clipped by a car that Kinda yielded through a stop. Sign The Times back to Lebron. Where are you where did you see him from on from Sheboygan Wisconsin originally which is halfway halfway between Green Bay and Milwaukee the funnest town to say right Sheboygan also reference it holds alone by John Candy? Yeah we've been. We've been doing this thing lately where we make Polka POLKA POLKA gun. We've been doing this thing lately where we make such good time on the first there's three segments and then the final segment is like forty five minutes long. Yeah okay good all right. Well thank you for calling I talking to the Beatles for me this is so would you say it's like talking about the dolphins offensive line. Now what would you rather see. Who'd rather talk to us or the dolphins opens up at the line? You guys you guys are doing on the show. Someone they called the talk to you. I will do this. Davey GEICO. 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A Contested Convention Becomes More Likely

The Forecast with Harry Enten

34:30 min | 10 months ago

A Contested Convention Becomes More Likely

"Hello everyone and welcome to the forecast fast. I'm Kate Baldwin here with John. AVALON LA and Harrington and my friends were here again. I'm impressed he could bring the energy today. You've been on a marathon and still that adult has only. Harry has to pull long hours elections. No one else has to work. Uh Let's all talk about it more but in fairness he did the late at night in the early morning five or some God I did it from these see and now I'm back in New York and no one in the universe of working adults or working. Parents has to pull late nights early mornings. It's not my fault that I do. Not Have the child's it is your fault that you think only you can be tired though anyway love you. We're here well. After last week's debacle in Iowa New Hampshire held their first in the nation primary and it did not take a week to get the result Tuesday Bernie. Sanders took the lead with people who did not far behind. And there's a lot to be learned from the vote totals and the exit polls will dive into that and then we're gonNA look ahead to next week's caucuses and Dan get Harry's forecast for that state and Mike Bloomberg is rising in the polls. He is also facing renewed scrutiny for his controversial stop and Frisk policing policy when he was mayor of New York. This time the anger is over how he talked about the policy in two thousand. Fifteen remarks that have just resurfaced. Let's start though with New Hampshire. The final totals out of New Hampshire for our friends who aren't glued to their televisions or their phones Bernie. Sanders won twenty five point nine percent of the vote p booted rich twenty four point four percent of the vote Amy Globe Ajar Third Place Nineteen Point Eight Elizabeth Warren nine point three and Joe Biden after that. Say I know you this Joe Biden is in the place where when you're reading it online you have to click see further results to you. See we are. That's where we are in this. Okay what is the most important data point that year seeing coming out of this you know I think it honestly the most important data point that I see coming out of it. Is You know you mentioned Biden. And I think that's one obviously for a former front runner. Finishing in fifth place in New Hampshire after finishing in fourth place in and I will not exactly a place you want to be Bernie. Sanders is for all intents and purposes the front runner but to me. The key number here is that he won which is twenty six percent of the vote in New Hampshire primaries. You go back in history. That is the lowest percentage in the modern era on either the Democratic or Republican side for a winner to to take in New Hampshire just twenty six percent. It is the first time on the democratic side in the modern era in which three candidates got rounding here at least twenty percent. The vote this to me is another sign of the absolute mess that is the Democratic primary. Currently what is you jazzed. Well I mean look I. I think that's such an important important context to have because people are saying Bernie one. It is far from that simple. You've gotTA reimbursement win. Win is not always a win it because I while there's delegates it's as we know second of all The real surprise of the night Is Amy Klobuchar Who came in with a very strong third place showing Leaving leaving Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden and the dust. Her campaign had been really struggling to gain traction even though she kept doing well debates. She is in the top tier because really for her last debate and because she's made a strong centrist appealed throughout the election N.. P. Buddha judge as well so what you have is which really struck me was despite all the energy being on the far left if you look at the New Hampshire cohort that turned out according to CNN exit polls does the voters this time around. Were less likely to call themselves very liberal than they were four four years ago whereas moderates actually made up a greater percentage and if you add Buddha Jacoby jar you you really see the strength of the Center I think also Elizabeth Warren coming in fourth. It's very tough and it's just a reminder let alone biden fifth and it's a reminder of how surreal. This'll cycle's been if two months ago three months ago. Four months ago we. We would've said look the election if you had to pick play. COME DOWN TO BIDEN versus Warren and maybe Kamala Harris with a really strong outside lie and instead we're talking about you know Bernie in pole position with Buddha judge you know right on his back Amy Klobuchar out of nowhere and Mike Bloomberg looking in the wings. It's it's a totally different field than people would have thought you know three or four months ago and exhibit X Y and Z of anybody. Who tells you how how a primary and elections are GonNa go has is knowing his line to or what they're talking about the we don't even need to see another example of that? I want I clued in you. Were talking about club. Char and booted judge internal debate. There were few there are a few options. It's either global meant it's either clbum momentum. There's something like a skinned men. Tom Clemenza no. There's there's a few we should test them out and see them. ooh Did Amend Tom. I'm kind of into the extra. I'm not sure why. But Anyway we'll get into that Glenn whether I had a great slogan in her grade school campaigns. Why all the way with amy K which I think is still very good slogan? She's ditched. That's all right. Well maybe maybe it was whatever I Alexis you can read that one again. Okay but wait. Let's talk about booted edge and club jar because you see that it appears that on the liberal side they they have coalesced around Bernie Sanders very clearly in as we see New Hampshire but now you have moderate voters. They're looking at both boot. `Age and clearly emphasized Org Chart I messages ought to have those two candidates were offering up in there the night on on Tuesday and Donald trump vulnerable Americans do not have the luxury of pursuing ideological purity over an inclusive victory. Donald Trump's worst nightmare is that the people in the middle. The people who've had enough of the name calling and the mudslinging have someone to vote for in November so similar message. There obviously appealing dissimilar voters and I when I saw that I'm struck does Bernie Sanders have amy Klobuchar. Thank he actually won this race. I think he probably did. I mean given at the margin as you know about a point and a half. A shark came up so strong after the debate performance against Buddha judge and you know the tracking polls which actually did a pretty good job of capturing at least that closure had momentum the show that Buddha judge perhaps was trailing just a little bit so I think the argument can be made there. But you know I wanna take a step back. You know. We're talking about this ideologically. I also think that Clovis Are Rising Hurt Elizabeth Warren D- they Despite the fact that obviously worn is appealing more to a left. Part of the electorate Vol Club showers appealing to the Center Party Electric. They're both really appealing to white women with college degrees in the suburbs. And you sort of see if you listen to Warren's speech in New Hampshire after the results came in she actually called out I'm I'm Amy Klobuchar. At least once I believe actually twice and it seemed to me that there was almost this friendly thing. It was quite cool very cool. Okay different take the message going everyone here today but no I just sort of saw that and said you know this might be the example of. We've sort of been talking all along. How is this primary exactly breaking down and yes? There's there's definitely that ideological Angolan burning. Nearly fifty percent of the very liberal vote. But there's also this college cohort angle and the fact is that Amy Klobuchar did very well among among those with a college screen Bernie Sanders not so much while people to judge actually despite our belief that he do better among those with college we actually Kinda got good amount of support from both. It was so I'd like cynical kate and then attempts at non okay. Listening Dylan attempted nonstop. Okay was that was a very magnanimous speech each from Elizabeth Warren in saying that people ran we ran a good race. Any any of US would be. We need to hold each other up each other down because we need to take on Donald Trump and her Giving a shout aiming click like that's what you do when you When you think a woman can't when something like the she's an example of what you can can you kind of Second Guess what a woman can do something like that. It was a really it was like a very cool message but then cynical K.. Was Thinking what's next a caucus state and and Elizabeth Warren with second first second choice. I don't know we won't know what it's all politics. That's the end of the you. Now these are people that are also practicing campaign. Don You heard it here first. You know it's GonNa turn out to the four four Wendy's you can also get breaking that right here right now. I love it okay. What about the fact that in terms of New Hampshire that you have those three candidates sanders booted club chart that basically finished one two three in the entire state? What does it say? It was like Warren and Biden in an weren't even in the race after time consume Ken's can someone answer me. The question of where Elizabeth Warns Campaign is supposed to go from here three like. I think that's a really. I think that's an important question. What does a reset look like for Elizabeth Warren who says that she's been running on the same message since she was back being a professor in college and who has run a had run very good campaign energetic yeah connecting with crowds policy driven And really seemed like she was surging. You know at Beit Too early In in the fall it's very hard to say. Look she's a neighboring state. Senator you had two of them in this race. Typically they do very well. She came in a distant fourth. Yeah and it's not clear that she's going to be able to make it up in Nevada or in Nevada Maine. I I love you so much but you got a week to get this right before we you know. Apparently I got. I got a mental freeze on that one South Carolina which is not a state where I think she's. She's a a natural fit and then Super Tuesday. It's very hard to see What her path forward is And and I think again that's crazy because she really set the tone and pace for so much of this campaign Sidon continue to think while a fifth place finish is really rough for him I think he can. I think he can hold out till South Carolina right momentum matters a lot. It's still two weeks away but it's incredibly unclear who among the other top tier candidates can have anything like a credible ability to connect the African American community. Bor the biting campaign sent out talking points to surrogates and CNN copy of them and one of the things that they a a one of the talking points is this is this is just two contests of many ninety nine point. Nine percent of African American voters have yet to have a chance to vote ninety. Nine Point Eight presentable Tino voters have yet to have a chance to vote And they're right. I think at this point though though all of the evidence is to he is in trouble. I think it is ridiculous to count him out right now. I think that that's the difference of the case between worn and Biden and my right right. Warren was from next door and yes Bernie. Sanders was from next door. But remember back in two thousand four. Both Howard Dean and John Kerry from where from next door to New Hampshire. They finished one and two Warren finished all the way back in the pack. And it's just how it is Nevada or South Carolina sort of fit her base which tends to be whites whites with college degree. They're not very many of them in either Nevada or South Carolina versus Joe Biden. At least say you know what there hasn't been a state so far that's voted it has a significant share share of non white voters particularly African American. So I think the case for Biden perhaps having a ray of hope is certainly brighter than Warne and the national polls being that Biden lightness still usually a second or third usually second even few I obviously backed up versus warm. Who's all laid back? Make a couple of other points just about what struck me the the exit polls because that's we're nerds about the stuff and this is a safe space to talk about it brain safe place look among party. Id you know Sanders did very well among Dem's put among independence which I'm obsessed with open primary You know sanders did well but also Buddha aged did. He beat Hillary Clinton independence by three to one margin for years ago. So not only did this show. He got less votes this time around than he did In Two Thousand Sixteen But his ads is an independent. Got Really decreased among people who said that who candidates could better unify the nation but Egyn Clutch are one sanders a very distant down that also also among the idea that Bernie was going to bring new people into the process First Time Voters Harry pointed out this morning on new day actually broke for judge pretty decisively and young voter turnout was down. Yeah so you know. These are all counter intuitive. But but I think it's important to keep your eye on the ball. I I would just point out. Obviously you know without a Republican primary the independence pendants. Who are coming in are different than they were four years ago but that actually backs up John's point to the extent that these are voters who might actually be swing voters not just independence? Who are like I? Don't I really liked the Democrats where I'm actually really liberal. These could be a lot of true independent voters who might actually cast about for Republican or as footage likes to call them future former republic. That's a good line. It is a good line. I say it all the time because I think it is i. It's got a nice. It's a nice turn it phrase just a quick shout out before we move on from New Hampshire to Andrea. Hang and Michael Bennett. Ed Who Patrick Patrick. Thank you very much. Who made a run for it? Michael Bennett spent a lot of time. New Hampshire He. He did the all eggs in the New Hampshire basket ask. It did not pan out but I think Andrea Was a fascinating candidate absolutely I think he brought some really interesting unique EEK ideas and his support showed that there. You don't have to run a traditional race to actually get attention and also Michael Bennett. He had a great message throughout in terms of trying to hugh unify the party over and over again against Donald Trump. I'm talking about a good message for Democrats I'm not taking a side here And just a not to them as they They fought fought hard. They fight while they spent a Lotta time and ended their campaigns me. Talking Point about that Bennett shows though that you can spend a Lotta time doing retail politics and it doesn't necessarily matter momentum in media and being on the debate stage is the key even argue the contrary but I think that that's one thing second of all because he didn't even place under Yang It's not the last we've heard of them. I and I gotta say for Guy. WHO has they had no political experience? I published his first article when his book came out and he Assam. And he's like I'm going to run for president and I was like what Look I he. He was running as a essentially although his supporters would get upset about this a single issue advocacy candidate All one thousand dollars every month and anticipating the role of AI in the economy he had probably the most successful single issue candidate Certainly of the modern era unbelievable communication and message message discipline so not less. We've heard varying all right. We're GONNA take a quick break and when we come back. Harry's forecast coming out of Nevada. I'm very interested in that. Plus we're going to talk about Mike Bloomberg as as we mentioned his rise in recent polling and also then this renewed scrutiny on a very important issue that he has answered but clearly not to a satisfactory level for for many About his record time as New York City mayor. That's Baxter. How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's Mike Bloomberg about doing things? 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The next contest and the Democratic Primary Nevada's caucus state and in all kicks off February twenty-second Harry. Give folks the lay of the land. Please so you know. I think that there are a a few things that we should understand about Nevada. I take a look at the polling average that we had before Iowa and New Hampshire voted so biden was up in my average repulsed twenty. Two percent to sanders is twenty percent worn at thirteen percent style at eight Buddha judge at seven and of course that makes some sense when you consider the fact that Nevada as a state is much more representative of party than either Iowa New Hampshire at least racially speaking around sixty percent of the electorate back in two thousand sixteen was white that versus ninety percent plus in Iowa and New Hampshire. Furthermore think think about this Latinos make up a little less than twenty percent of the vote. AFRICAN-AMERICANS WORKING Americans make up around fifteen percent of if there's one st if there's one state in the early states that looks like the Democratic Party it is in fact Nevada Vata but here's I think the warning. You Know Manchester well it is a caucus state. That is a very interesting sort of thing with the APP. Though I I just to remind folks they were going to be using the same APP. That Iowa used. And we're not going to do that. I don't know that means Woolsey Woolsey soon. But here's the thing that I just WANNA point out. You know about Nevada and that is take a look at how the pulse looked in two thousand eight before Iowa. New Hampshire Hampshire voted versus after Iowa. New Hampshire voted. After Obama. Won An island came in a close second in New Hampshire before Iowa. New Hampshire voted Clinton had a eighteen point lead on Barack. The Obama in the average poll. After Iowa and New Hampshire voted that lead shrunk to just four points so the real question on this forecast is how much this year ear did Iowa and New Hampshire affect results if it looks anything like two thousand eight or really anything like two thousand sixteen on the democratic side. Although the Paul's previously had Joe Biden the had my guess is that the new round of Paul's will not be so friendly to him. How does Historical precedent how is that impacted by the fact that this this is moving ahead and I. It's a much messier lineup. Then when we were looking at Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in two thousand eight like there. This this is going through Super Tuesday with all whole mash people. Yeah I mean this is the real question right which is if we look so far. This year the types of bounces. We've seen have not necessarily necessarily been all that protective in New Hampshire. Buddha judge got about the bounce that you might have expected perhaps a supercharged bounce. The little bit Sanders Multiple bounces. Yes I mean it. It was like the best of all worlds for him versus Sanders really didn't get too much of one. But then you look nationally right and what you see to really see Sanders get that much of a bounce out of our our input it just got a little bit of one but it was a fact Bloomberg who will be talking about a little bit later got the largest bound set of anyone and I think that sort of gives you an idea of why we need to a little cautious. Why we really do need to see that? First round of polling. We've seen a number of different candidates do while we saw kluber shore doing particularly well New Hampshire versus Iowa. So let's wait and see exactly what happens but I will say that. I don't believe that Joe Biden will be leading in the first round of polling coming out of Nevada after New Hampshire's voted so. So my my questions are What what's the role of the unions in Nevada because Nevada strong Yeah I know that yeah but short answer but are are they determinative. Because there's been some Buzz that that they're actually a problem with single payer because of what they've negotiated the culinary Llanelli Union. which is I think we can argue the most powerful union just came out to go against Bernie Sanders saying that Bernie Sanders is president? The he's GonNa take away calling your health effects a very big deal because the far left has bet on union support particularly talk estates that may not materialize. The other thing is Harry. Reid still have any influence in the state of so. WHO's it going to back? I don't I believe he does. I mean he's you know sort of the Godfather I don't know who is going to back. He obviously really. He has stabbed with Joe Biden for five decades. He worked with Joe Biden but he's his staff has gone out to numerous candidates including more including sanders. III hasn't really necessarily surly had all that many bad things to say He did sort of get culinary to get behind Clinton in two thousand sixteen and sort of helped take over the top in that state state and I think you know we just go to culinary over and over and over again you know you talk about someone like Clover Shar right who has no real organization outside of the early states even in new. Oh Hampshire's you really have that much of an organism. Try Now but right. Just try now. But let's say culinary is like you know what we're GonNa go that's our tech. That's an organization around five second-set just builds right up interesting very interested to see if they actually decide to get behind one candidate instead of basically having an Anti Sanders message which I certainly we have so far. So what does the Democratic Party looked like in Nevada. If is it it kind of going back to your question like is it. All Union driven is is there any. Is there any. Is there any other game. I don't a lot of old folks. Yeah a lot of walks. A lot of retirees are out there L. D. S. is actually pretty prominent Nevada Oughta And and So that's one of the things. In plus the x factor the caucus but traditionally people think of it as being a Latino and union driven caucus And and I gotta say one thing you know. Democrats have Despite Tom Perez being the head of the DNC have run a real danger of taking the Hispanic Hispanic vote for granted And it's really unclear which of these candidates is is doing the most consistent outrage or will do the best I think in Nevada Bernie Sanders asked outside. He is definitely spent time. I I mean I think I think pundits would say quietly prioritizing Latino vote I think not quite at all I think people just I haven't been paying attention to the events that he's been holding with Latino voters wet. So here's why I call bs on that and it makes it may be interesting mind blown mind blown up one thing and this may be more of a national point but one of the reasons The trump administration keeps hitting Venezuela. So hard isn't just because They care about Venezuela But particularly in Florida so you know in Hispanic community is not a monolith. There are a lot of deeply held bad feelings about socialism and socialist dictatorships from Venezuela to Cuba That the Hispanic community really has felt personally. And there's a tone deafness on the part of a lot of Democrats Democrats to it which is bill de Blasio praising Shavuot Vara in Coyote. Oh and not working out so well and and and Bernie Sanders has a long history of praising the Chevette Madero regime and the Castros hasn't come under a lot of scrutiny for it but it's part of his his record. I don't know if it'll make an impact in the Nevada Latino community but we'll see what I'll just say this enclosing using and that is that Bernie Sanders actually did not do too poorly among Latinos last time around. They basically looked like the rest of the party. In terms of their voting patterns Latinos compared to the rest of the democratic elector are overwhelmingly womanly younger. And that's a real appeal point for Bernie Sanders who's obviously does better with younger voters. And just to know to New Hampshire among non white voters although they made up a very small talking. They're very small by very good Bernie Sanders actually won them. Overwhelmingly Doubling Joe. Biden's percentage in among non white voters New Hampshire and obviously going in the Nevada. That's a decent sign and I'm really interested to what this means in terms of support when we headed in South Carolina. But we've got plenty of time to talk about that. Let's switch gears though. Mike Bloomberg has been on the rise in recent national polls and he could possibly he could very possibly appear in the next democratic debate. But this all comes right as a recording of Remarks that he gave in two thousand fifteen have resurfaced. There weren't they weren't secret they've it's been known but resurfaced where Bloomberg Org is defending his controversial stop and Frisk policing policy from the time that he was New York City mayor and it's not necessarily that he's defending it. It's the terms he uses and defending the policy which were really quite. Yeah crude yeah to say the least. He has apologized he did. He apologized for his support of the policy That has been deemed unconstitutional and also found obviously to primarily single out communities of color. He apologized than again once. This recording came out here his the apology that he said is I have apologized. And I've taken responsibility for taking too long to understand the impact it had on black and Latino communities but this issue and my comment about it my comments about it do not reflect my commitment to criminal justice reform and racial equality. What do you do with us? Well again it. It has been widely known that he was in favour of stock. Stop and Frisk she did. deescalate it it was a policy inherited from the Giuliani Administration but he did the defendant And subsequently learned the crime decline was not predicated upon this discriminatory policy At least in later stages well sorry putting was not necessarily putting officers in communities on the ground communities did show evidence and Ray Kelly his his longtime police commissioner was a pioneer community policing in any case like crime declined began under rudy. Giuliani continued rather dramatically declined. Mike Bloomberg. Here's what's interesting to me. This tape is bad for Mike Bloomberg because of the terms in which he's speaking That sad I do think he can make a case that his actions don't fit those words and you've got two issues one the compared to what problem with Donald Trump Donald trump is. I think made people really numb to crude statements and gaffes and no. I think it's hard to imagine any any candidate's go to look racist or insensitive to racial issues compared to Donald J trump but is a different standard again. It it it may or may not be. But here's what else thinks. Interesting Bloomberg has been doing Kanani well in the endorsement game. Yeah African American mayors of from Washington DC to San Francisco to the Congressional Black Caucus. Right Macbeth Greg Greg meeks from his hometown And a handful of others so that that indicates win and Macbeth came after this was released. Exactly three came after. MEEKS came after Stacy Z.. Plaskitt came after from the Virgin Islands. I mean look policing is very important. Criminal Justice reform is very important. Anti gun violence Being anti guys is being done being very big on gun control. That was the big reason. Lucy Macbeth who obviously ran congress based on that issue. That is an important issue for my Bloomberg is support our campaign right exactly and that's what he did with a lot of them. He put his money where his mouth was now. He has a lot of money to do that. But the fact is if you look at the polls if you look at those southern states there were a lot of Bloomberg support is coming from. He's jumped up. North of fifteen percent in the state of North Carolina. OPOLE had him leading in Arkansas granted. That's it's not too heavy if an African American population for southern state. But what you're seeing is a southern southern since a major qualifications. Well sure I mean I I put the qualify but the point. The point generally being here is that the reason this type was released is because all of a sudden Mike Bloomberg seems seems like player in the stomach played the strategy which was kind of a hail. Mary decided not to run in March. Got In late. Has the money to do it. Skip the early states which I think are going to be on the Asha history anyway. Because the way I have gone to benefit from a coincidence of debacle possibly but it's a very fractured field And if he comes in with national television advertising a strong stick to the center lane. How does the mayor of New York compared to the former mayor of south? Bend Indiana How you know I just do not count Mike Bloomberg out? So this could he could be in. Actually the pole position after after Super Tuesday. Recent pupil on wear our internal nationally when it comes to the Democratic candidates and their support amongst african-amer african-americans Nationally Biden support nationally twenty-seven percent amongst black voters Mike Bloomberg twenty two percent from talking about they want to beat Donald Trump. They WANNA be Donald Trump and this is a guy for better or worse is going to throw up a or yes. Additionally yes ma'am. Is this low information. Low Information mation coming in yet online Bloomberg this do you think in this Post trump in this. You know trump reelection and re election environment that the remarks the crude nature that he talked about this policing policy that once folks learn more about it this number drops or do you think that this I love that term that knowing US outside of media that it's baked in I mean how many frigging statements to Joe Biden. Make over the course of the campaign that did not what's seemed. Cook his support with African Americans. It wasn't until Iowa New Hampshire where it turns out. He was a loser. Difference there is. He's had a long history long long history supporting an African American. I tell you that that is true by different after the fact that is correct in two thousand is an five if you look at a pace university sort of exit poll type of study. He won north of forty five percent of the African American vote as a non Democrat in New York City. Okay so this is. This is my nowhere near the stickiness. It would typically because of Donald trump because of mill hundreds of millions of dollars being spent because of the endorsements. He's getting from folks in the community because of his commitment to gun control. I don't think it's going to be the kind of disqualifying statement. That might be another other candidate in another time. Not even a little bit all right. It's my guess. That's a wrap for us today. Thanks so much for listening. Please make sure to subscribe at Apple. 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"There's crispy and then there's crispy try our new and improved Tyson crispy chicken strips crispy just got crispy. Today's opening tip is the Lakers last night James Harden versus. You baled McGee with amazing He did get this sort of. I'm I want you to know that I'm still finding confetti areas places. I don't WanNa know up to this is what goes Do they love to try to prove big meal. You win on most of your tips. What was your batting average in your tip horrible? Appoint would you know I I started. I started laying. Kgan no but I I can jump Rachel so I had to put K. G. D. when I got to Oklahoma City surge surge. Do the job balls. I respect the re the real there you gala to the jump. I'm Rachel Nichols alongside the Confetti clad. Brian winters. I sometimes get a tough enough for the team. NBA Trade deadline has come and went and of course our MBA Champ Kendrick Perkins. He he shower. There's no confederate area. Go me now hasn't is going to be stopped by a little bit later and coming up. We're GONNA talk more about the rackets smaller ball lineup up. They got the win last night. We will discuss if it is a sustainable strategy. I though it's Oscar weekend here in. La The Ninety Second Academy Awards awards will be presented live on ABC. That's Sunday eight o'clock eastern five. PM Pacific so to get everyone prepared for the ceremony. We're going to start today. Show with our own own Oscar party right here right now. So just like they do at the Oscars we're going to give some love to the previously announced winners is not the award for best foreign film that went to Janas for his euro stem against the timber. Wolves get it there you go. You're fired. Yeah I know but looks good. He's good at it. The award for best screenplay went to Stephanie Dawson from team. USA It's one of those screens right. That is legal. Hit on the side you gotta swear. Oh that's clearly. ooh ooh award for best. Cinematography went to Anthony. Davis has gone to the trash bag. Seen in American beauty member played it. All and the award for best supporting actor went to Never Air Baynes. It just makes it more memorable. We're going to show his blocks. Rachel I'm just saying he go- he gets blocked shots you yeah he do but I mean I listen be when you get dumped on like that and season you got ashore now then Mr Reality I respect them to say I mean. Last last week we showed you know Blake Griffin Post arising me so you know exactly dude it to him because he was the victim some of a distant reasons why I was having a good day. Why are you gotTA show it? I mean it's it's basketball all right. Let's get back to our Oscars on a look at our first category. This is for Best S. special effects guys. The nominees are Jamarat jumping over Kevin Love on December. Second now he missed Padang. I'm not sure that matters. You guys can decide aside charge over you. He did look like he had perfected slate right. You normally need for that. You'd be a push off a little bit. He uses. He's he wants to Duncombe people young versus the nuggets on January six in use at multiple defenders. This isn't a ray of the visual effects. So this is like if he did the Matrix but without the CJ. I'm down because in real time. I had a hard time figuring we did any finish to play. Those Hollywood needs an army of people for for this. NBA Players. Just do it themselves. File nominees against the Nuggets January twenty fourth. Two that's not special. That's just brute force. It's not because he just said he began when they do like the marvel movies and they have someone fly through the air that requires a special check. Good jobs I N Williamson. Did it on his own. So all right so of those three you got John Moran you got trae young and then Zay on of the things that you should a human being should not be able to. Do you need a special effect for but they did it. Who Wins you got John Yes? I'm predisposed to vote design for anything to be honest with you. I'm a huge fan of what he does. I'm going with trae young because the handle the fake and the finish rush disrespect. We showed block shot. It's so rare that we show you buzz towards the Danny tells me I Cabrera better. I am going to have to go with trae. Just because you're up against the Matrix. Wait with the school neo level stuff and he's doing it like you planning Rookus easy word. Easy is our next category. Gory best performance by lead actor so our first nominee is drawn. This was the night he posted thirty. Nine points sixteen assists twelve rebounds against the Mavericks on November. I remember this is like the bill showdown or the worst king doing it on the worst pain and he did that would know the Anthony Davies. No Anthony Day Daddy Daddy Ball. Y- James Harden dropped sake. Stay St and a win over the hawks. Back on November thirtieth quarters my correct rate wombs beautiful also use before what because someone turns into great performance over and over. We're like and whatever our final nominee Damian Lillard forty eight points. Dished out tenses against the Lakers. Last Friday he put on a AH show in Kobe's memory. This was a performance. All right so who should our Oscar for best performance. Not Out of these three. Do Not saying their whole careers you know again. It's a these three one nine nine dame dollar will I'm going with Cain's aims for the simple fact he went into. It's a Dallas Dallas was playing well at the time they would play a really good at home and he went now without Anthony Davis on the road and put on a performance. I received all the year seventeen. Woo well as the tiebreaker. And I wish I had this. I wish I had this job in our actual congressional Senate on it but instead I'll just jump I'm going with Damian Lillard. I mean just the moment was so big and to walk in there and it was hard digging. I talked about this before the game. You're being dropped into someone else's very emotional moment right anyone could have been able to play Duncan on fat and they were sort of the storybook script of the Lakers wanting to win it for Kobe. It is a strange position to be the opponent in that because of course everybody would like to win the basketball game. They play their professional athletes. But Dame Dame said straight out to me he goes yeah. It's completely weird. He said his sister's thing was no one's winning tonight. Dame might win a grammy someday. But he'll take the Oscar there we go. Our next category is best actor. Here are the nominees. Eric bledsoe versus the clippers on November six. Oh Ah ooh that was to me was split into gives it the end. Look it's put put doc the got probably lost lost flop call principal all right. I Patrick Beverley versus the rockets on November. Second this was really art. Renault won the falling down to and and also the head the head the head right. I mean not everybody does that on a performance like that and finally Joe Ingles versus the heat a loved opposing coach. Luke Maye here's that's plan it is really this tricky treatment right you have not called against all right so those were some serious performances. Who are you giving your Oscar? Two gentlemen I think it's the multi-stage move of beverly where he falls back. Pushes back then goes down. Agree with you. I gotTA give it to pet bill. That was I mean it. That was horrible pay. That's a flop warning and a half. That's that's a five thousand dollar wonderful because he's getting an Oscar. Okay were significantly hardened is okay. It's against Harden Harden does that that was the NBA. I remember I posted a video of that like right as it happened because it was so phenomenal and half the response was including from NBA players was right but it's hard. Martin had to respect that he was pretty good all right. Finally the biggest category of the Mall Best Picture which are purposes means posters. Ation Ryan Ryan. No whining here Jones and Yoenis Valid Judas from October twenty third. WHO's winning the you're right? I'm telling all the other night staple we'll send the ball bounced off the floor so hard stance are Lebron. Oh man number fifteenth gear. Some they write about broad man. I'm telling you that's cheap man. She didn't see the photo and took last night. Lebron on that Deng justic Destig- all right. Finally Rosen on Chris Boucher. I mean that was He going to do is just is laying on top of them there. I mean provided support. I I think we all say what's the frame. What's the best picture from that last when the modules and I think that was the that was the best Dunkin Lebron's dunk was awesome derozen? You don't expect that that it was the surprise element then the am one the land on the ground I can is look at the Spurs Emotional Support Actually Award won the game and the little vista afterward. That was the background of his former used to play for them motions SAGO. I feel proud that we could take part the on again on your television on. ABC's Derosier and there you go keeping at least LBJ. I tried tried man. He's got a lot of awards. And by the way We will be tired. Hobe Oscar Two two years after he retired and Lebron certainly works in the entertainment space. I would not be surprised if brands don't ask her one day as well coming up the Lakers did not make any pre-trade deadline moves yesterday. But they are courting retired point guard. Darren Collison at the Laker game last night. We'll tell you all about around I those time for our distant replay from this date in one thousand nine hundred nine and I keep saying it just mentioned Kobe. 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I was your even taller so I can see. More of the outfit is calling up Thomas. You'll beauties blinded aligned in. Aren't us the blank wake from witnessing. You're amazing outfit guys to end of the NBA on ABC. The the jump is brought to you by pizza. That no-one pizzas Sir Bakers League. It's a maker Miss League. I have no idea may miss. It's a maker Miss League actually for Jaanus but anyway. Creativity Rockets Lakers on the break. I mentioned this earlier. Lebron and throwing down the windmill merce all right. So which was better that one or this one from two thousand five because the man has an aged in this respect more speed on the approach in two thousand five but the majestic netplay of last night seems like ranks higher. I'm going last night. Because he's thirty five years old still. I am so jealous. Wow he just wait it up. He's like no I'm GONNA put on a show for the fans. Ooh Ooh I give up and they did not win. So there's that Pelicans Balls Somsak Iran one over Zion added. That doesn't go well. I don't know why people keep trying. It never works for for Guard in the painting the double clutch on a shot. It's the basis of getting embarrassing so underrated as a shot blocked. I'm telling you as anything passer to I'm telling you the what's happened. The last two weeks is distracted. From how great he's been. He has had a spectacular started Healthy make aggression. We had some powerful slams last night or as to check out Jackson Hayes. I Jj reaction things all right terrence. Ross coming down the rows and Janas. Oh hello everyone get angry at the rams last night John is heading on his mind. I'm still laughing. I forgot about zero. You see why he does this do you remember. He's here so we players in the NBA. Traffic I I like as though he's athlete Hilo Robin. I like anticipation commenting right love. Okay you saw daddy ball earlier. That's like granddaddy giving with the lab work and is against him. Be Like to think you said last night perk the bucks owed the sixers on his mind. Yeah thirty to twenty six thirty six twenty six assists or something. The help the sixers traded for did not make it in time for last night. We'll have to see it wouldn't Hilbert shooters not going to be the different up man. We're talking about the boots worn. This show phenomenal. Make Previews Magic Knicks. Aaron Gordon Enthrone down to separate Rosalie of Madison Square Garden. All right so you were talking about Jerry Jones junior in the contest but Aaron Gordon is back in the dunk contest is cirque. Don't forget about him. But he's Rachel like this impressive but I'm talking my Jones sticking his head in the room and he gets up and in the throat right. I got good style whose thing to be a great dunker. You can't be too tall but Jones isn't too tall well. He's got really long arms. He's got arms like he's six so he's got the perfect package to win this dunk contest. I don't know though I so I would say that dunks Aaron turned in and that was it was in where was it the dunk contest was great. It was with this stuff mascot right so so I'm just saying I think he's got something special planned for Chicago. I'm excited about the contest. Our it's going to be good pet contents. We got last night. The rockets debut in Robert Covington and they're super small ball approach. Russell Westbrook led the way with forty one points. I'm telling you I was in the building last night. He just had it. He's had it the whole night. He was he looked fantastic. Rockets outscoring the Lakers by thirty from three point line. And here's Mike Dantonio. After the game this is a very telling soundbite. Take a listen anytime you try some different these guys got to believe in it and this helps Because helps a lot because you go here you come in here and you get spanked and we're all little like Oh you know. Maybe we can't do this but so they're fired up more keep trying and it helps a lot brand. I thought that was so interesting. Because he's making the point that it's not just convincing people around the league their fans to convince people in the locker room because because it takes buying to play like this and the very first out of the gate with Robert Cummington was against the Lakers which was a team they were supposed to struggle with the Lakers biggs and he said it helps helps. If we had gotten spanked it would have been a harder sell inside the locker room. What do you make of all that? I enjoyed watching it. I thought it was an innovative way to go about it. My instinct tells me that it's a trick offense and that when teams get more used to it. That was a surprise for the Lakers. I mean they knew it was coming but they hadn't seen Yup and that can you win four games in a playoff series playing that way my feeling is that you can't and also concerned about. Pj Tucker the he's just GONNA get worn out but that's just my instinct. That doesn't mean I'm saying I know that's going to happen. It's not typical what you see in the end. I've been very a critical Dan. Tony but I have to give credit on this one because for the simple fact he's doing something that I actually agree with. He's I first of all he's he's he's going small he space in the floor were five perimeter players and he has two former. MVP in their prime you talking about Russell. Westbrook and James Harden People Struggle Gordon one on one so once they get past the first line of defense. It's over with and we. We saw that last night like if. CPI three was on his team. They couldn't do this but Russell Westbrook James Harden. He's basically saying you know what I'm GonNa put my best who plays a guest who will be. I WanNa try to stop you so I'm trying to figure out what teams are going to do to try to slow this offense now now I don't I don't I don't see anyone have an Aso for that. Defensively what can you do. You try to trap James Harden Russell Westbrook goes for forty. I mean I'm I love this and I saw Mike last night after the game. One of the things that was nice is that he looked energized. And it has been up and down twelve months for Mike Dantonio. He doesn't have a contract extension. This could very well last year. There the C. P. Three trade was there's disagreement within the rackets organization about whether they should make that deal. It looked like he's like Oh. I got toys now to to play in the style that might Dantonio so good at doing and do the overall that they're maximizing what they have love but the argument perk is the can't defend in the middle and no rebound but they just said. Hey we're gonNA outscore you and my thing is is that I blame. Rondo Rondo for Russell. Westbrook did to them last night because he gassed up Kyle Kuzma last game that they played. You can't do that to a guy like Russell. Westbrook he has. Is the mob mentality. Kobe already crowd them with that. I see this work. I don't see nobody stopping. Westbrook look really great being being. You're live when Russell. Westbrook is firing so much fun is wide open. There's nobody in the middle. He is so much fun to watch all right. We will talk a little bit more about about what happened in the League after the trade deadline coming up Dangelo. Russell receiving a hero's welcome in Minnesota last night probably towns share to make it happen. This is a really really sweet. Well we'll talk about what we can expect from Russell. Towns parents stay tuned next on this job and you guys saw the top of the show Elsa they they bryant tendered his never heard we just had another trouser supportive which means at least ready for appeal. Have the trade crank not working is the most disappointing tenable crank. That's still not working. I will not be filled Amino now has not gotten the of me what were then. Go off a little right. If we we get a trade and then I also donate their uh-huh professional help. I just want you to know that this wasn't working. I had the backup and said I had the back of sirens. Because that's kind of an but now studios we'll get back up. Ready all is right with America. Thank you I'm just glad we don't have the city here in the dark. Yeah welcome back to the job offers insider I mean I have a show and plaintiff lawyers trying to sabotage me me like that. You should know you'll never win Perk look among the trade crank craziness we had trades. And there were some guys a who made it clear like Andre Drummond. They found out in public before they found out privately. Eight you have a similar story. Share that with us. Do Listen I I. I remember because I was in Denver at the time with with with the Boston Celtics and you know between us always go to sleep sleep. I leave my TV on. Because I'm scared of the dog so it's always ask so I won't go at seven o'clock right. I wake up at seven even in the morning. I'm watching ESPN like I was a blockbuster trade. I'm like oh I'll trade. It was like Boston. Celtics is Kyrie argus grain. And I'm like what I call my agent. who was Bob Myers at the time and I'm like the buyers you'll ray Bob man was going on? He's like you help perky trade I say. How long can we wait until the season perk is done in a Danny? Go be calling you and then Sam Presi. Hey May I was like now. You gotta be kidding. We gotta put a stop to do whatever the state we just gotTa finish the season out and he was is like no perkins done great situation. I was like well. I found out waking up on what happened a week later. which maybe later who who what happened week later in your career? Oh I got cast out when I went over last year about a forty dollars. Ah I didn't watch you got off Danny ainge then and I told him. Thank the same as actually. I WanNa talk about the Lakers. Dave McMenamin stamp in this photo of free agent Darren Collison sitting with Jeanie Buss at the game last night. I actually spoke to Darren when he was over there with genie. Just you know. He said taken in the game enjoying his evening member told farms earlier in the day that he was fifty fifty on whether he wants to come back for. Both the Lakers and the clippers have expressed interest in wanting him. What do you think he would bring to the Lakers if he if he ever again lovely Linda Rambus if he if he ended up joining their squad officially? It's not a if he's GonNa be a Laker and he he's GonNa Change everything for the Lakers will he's GonNa put. He's a perfect fee. Maintains Eh. He's GonNa give them that. Extra is to win the title. He could get a book. He defends at a high level. He creates for others and the most important. The Dean is that you could play him in the fourth quarter with Lebron James because he does not need the ball in his hands to be assist is a career thirty nine percent three point shooter and that's sag down by his first few years. We struggled to shoot three so you know when the bronze on the floor absolutely fits but then the important thing is you. Look the Lakers offense when Lebron James is not on the floor and it is bad it is bottom five needed an offense efficiency. And that's even with Davis on the floor so the big thing thing that he brings to the table is someone who can run an offense and get easy buckets for everybody out there. Lebron doesn't have as much of a burden to create for. Everybody does right. Now is a lot like the role. That Kyrie Irving played now. He is not Kyrie Irving. Let's not get phone away but when you have somebody who can control possession in the playoffs even if it's just two or three possessions a quarter it takes off allows Lebron to do a little bit of resting while he's playing which is vital in the playoffs. The Lakers were limited. What they could bill with this team because they they they had salary cap space? They couldn't do much with it. Because of Anthony Davis if this if Darren Collison signed as a free agent last summer I think he would have gotten twelve twelve million dollars a year. He led the League in three point shooting two years ago and he averaged twelve points a game last year for the Pacers. I don't know how he's going to be able to join him season middle the way I don't know if it's GonNa take them a while to warm up but adding him in my mind is a bigger edition. If he's Darren Collison then the clippers adding Marcus Morris. It's not because I'm not comparing the players. It's just that the injection of talent Lakers need what the Lakers and the fit than you would provide. He turned down many millions of dollars to retire. And you know now. We'll see if I think if you're gonNA come back and play basketball. That's the kind of situation he lives here. He's from here. This might Diane to. Here's one of my favorites. Because he's old school. He picks up ninety four feet on the wanted to throw really. You're scared of the dark. Knows all good. We all have buffalo all right store yesterday. Diangelo Russel going to Minnesota Karl. Anthony towns needed this people if you've been watching his instagram the last week or so. He needed this and he got his own. Oh Kentucky all-time friend take a look. This is not anything to existence for years. World gave US energy back. It's time what's Doug Manley. What's up family movie to be his others? L. Did the whole Dog Celebration Show so you know what is my God everytime coats got you mm-hmm ooh ooh the man. This is sick this is this is a movie to see. I've never seen a player so in a hurry to get to Minnesota in February. Well and also Karl Anthony towns. That's very expensive timber. Wolves employees there to greet him in person. Expensive is pretty awesome. That wasn't American Airlines. I have the discussion here by the way. Yes the NGELO. Russell went to Ohio state. But he's from Louisville from Kentucky. Yeah he's a Buckeye. Let's just be clear. Okay Mr Ohio You know let me just say I hope it works out with timber. Wolves the one of the reasons. why Mr Big deal about this is because their entire organization Asian needs some good news if had nothing but bad news for months now? I've never seen the team. Acquired seven players in the middle of the season like this at least via trade. It's wild but if you're if you're going to Redo your whole team midseason do when you've lost thirteen in a row. Whatever it is? I'm a a little more skeptical about this fit. You know one of the problems at the timber. Wolves have your awful defensive team right and a lot of that you you can point to personnel. But there's one person in particular who's central to that theme that Guy's call Anthony towns and I want to take a look at these numbers here. These are the top two lineups by minutes for the symbols. These are identical line only differences. Gorky Jiang is on the court and one of them and towns in there on the other Gogi Johnson there that is a near a top five defense in the NBA. When Call Anthony towns out there that is the worst defensive rating in the history of the NBA? Worse than the cavs last year. Worse than any bad team you can think of going back to at least nineteen seventy-three. That's not about all I play with this. It's about one in guy out there and his commitment to the defence event is not there. The Angel Russell has a lot of the same afflictions. Great talent all star talent but defense maybe not a priority so unless those guys undergo transformations who they are. It's not just about. I'm playing with my best friend. Now you gotta play different different than the way you've played as an individual let alone with someone else might may do. I need to go to Walgreens and get you a box Fan Southfield. Not Seriously I was watching this on. TV On my phone and looking at it on social media and not. I'm sitting up here like is this Katie. Getting off off the plane. Minnesota Nice mcvay. What is really going on? Both of you understand the bigger bigger picture. It feels like that you are a star player a franchise player who has felt and look. I'm not saying he's right or wrong to feel this way okay. But he has clearly felt a bit marooned sort of all of this is falling apart around him if you can activate him differently the bottom line is he's their star. He's the guy they've got got so if you can activate him and make him feel differently about when he walks out onto the court every night he will play more defense we hit really have. We've seen also it wasn't going to defy the mandate of him. I look if you're on. What are you trying Rachel? I don't I don't disagree with you me. You agree on a lot of things but because for the simple fact what do you mean. They got rid of teams. They got rid of Jimmy Butler. They demanded anyone anyone who demanded them to do something that they weren't doing. Got Jimmy Butler arrival at the mall of America people were saying about that roller coaster all NBA a player like he's all NBA player. And by the way when he played there one of the best teams in the last he got hurt. They almost missed the playoffs. He came back. They barely made the playoffs and then at the end of it is a lovely but we want to pay you less than these other. Two Guys Minnesota did that right. Well he was already under contract garlicy he was said they want to be less than these other. Two guys the reality is you got a guy who we've changed. General managers as we change coaches would change everything. The only thing that hasn't changed his Karl Anthony towns except his bank account. It's a lot bigger. What's going to compel him to change his best friend coming in? Who doesn't play defense either? It is time. What are you talking about you did you? It's time to the lottery. I've been waiting Secaucus secaucus sleeping on remember. You said that with zoo up Janas says the bucks are the best team in the league. Watch these guys argue with that. Also I though here was his reason for not selecting James Harden in the All star. Take a listen to last night right between Kim by trae young. Well you know what I gotta go. Don't want to dribbler. I want somebody that's GonNa pass the ball. So I'm a Gobi Crossover Killa step back. Master Kemba Walker but Walker in this day and it came now we and to save is coming not play now opposition way now a really long three pointer take Lillard with a brilliant stretch here Lillard for three down again bullet explosive performance for Dave catching the the goodness Lillard is whole another fifty. One I don't know about it actually. I no I've never been in this type of what it is I although I don't know if that counts a dance like that Tonight and the Red Red Hot raptors versus the Pacers also doing quite well and then at ten thirty it is dame time the blazers taken on the judge and it all starts with NBA countdown. Seven o'clock eastern on. ESPN all right. Welcome back to the jump. Let's discuss the team with the League's best record. Then Milwaukee Bucks they continue to roll last night beating the Sixers Sixers Bhai Eleven. They are not in one in their last ten games and Janas not shy about his opinion of his team after last night. Here's what he had to say. I think the best thing and then be we have the best NBA For me I think this should not be no any change and thank God. It wasn't I think the guys that we have been having the teams amazing now. The guys that we have they're playing great and You you know these guys that are going to go to war with these guys are going to war with season and You know I'm happy that we still have. I'm confident in his guys. All right I mean. Do you agree with you on us. Best record do you think that means that they are the best team in the NBA. Right now they are. He's playing at a phenomenal rate. He's looks like he's headed towards the second. MVP would no question there. Say no I kind of feel like it is especially when you consider. He plays thirty one minutes of Mike. What he's doing in that amount of time? I don't think it's ever happened in the history of the NBA. Now the problem is they still have flaws. Small small weaknesses. This is but definitely that could be exploited especially in the context of a seven game series. Think about you guys normal star Wars I think about the death star. It's big applause planets but there's one little one meter by one meter shot. Then if he does some down there it all blows up. That's what the books are like. And that that flaw for me is offensively. I'M GONNA have to see Jaanus. Hit shot after shot after shovel. Three Point Line as a game plan for me to change the way a defendant and then more importantly defensively they give up. A lot of threes are very aggressive defense at the point of attack. But if you play a good offense which you will deepen the playoffs swing swing. That's a wide open three the Toronto Raptors next to him last year and they can knock them out and I think that's still a weakness for them going into the playoffs multiple both death stars. There's only one to compel. What do you think? I'm William NEWSOM. They are the best team in the league. They have zero flaws. In my opinion. I think when you look at roster They're complete. They have the Lopez brothers. Who who's anchoring the middle reputation you have Janet whose reputation they all ranked in the top three conversation conversation in that category? You look at their point guard. Play BLEDSOE's giving you fifteen five and five George Hill this they back up which is pretty solid salad. The point guard spot and they got a nice Batman the Christmas and new shooting fifty percent. He's averaging a cool twenty points. He's playing his role. And you have nice role players clears Wesley. Matthews is playing great right now both ends of the floor of Kyle. korver cashew debunk venture. Oh yes you have all these guys from on paper standpoint. They may be the best regular season team in NBA history. Their numbers even look better than the seventy three win warriors. When you look at what what they do offensively and defensively thing about is why talked to players out there? They don't feel and maybe that's going to be something that Janas Hammers home and says is you're GONNA fear me in May and June. Maybe that'll be the case but teams don't fear them. They had about based on the status. They should though I guess what to know. Seems that don't feel feel sorry for the loan. Wow noticed foot okay. Go time for our second distant replay of the day. This date. This one is from two thousand four. Take a listen you know him. He's got young stat. This is before the surgery. Yeah yeah he had so much touched you more. I think about him as a dunker but this guy had such incredible. What about touching on the basket finger-rolls to next week we're taking the jump on the road for all star weekend we will be live from the peer? You can join our audience. Wade trae young many other special gasp be swinging by our set so I will see all of you guys in the Windy City would you do. Let's get to our league pass game tonight. He kings he will be without Jimmy Butler for at Elise tonight. He will be questionable for a week now. The mariah shoulder came back clean but Miami of course one of the most active teams ahead of yesterday's deadline and they want to make sure shore. He is with them for the stretch run. They netted Andrei with dollar Jae. crowder Salomon Hill. I mean how much better did Miami get. Yesterday was better enough. It would have been a lot better. They would've had them as probably the eastern conference champions Gagliardi without yeah. I'm I'm really high on the heat for this reason. And if you look at the record that they built the player's responsible for that are still in that locker. Everyone they traded away was either hurt or never played for them so they got to rotation wing players only give one okay. Great Trade for me to absolutely yes. I agree especially with coastal and then guess what they have their veteran lead in that locker room that nobody talks about. And you say we'll keep everything in line. It's not a smokey. Yeah absolutely well the. ESPN has the Eastern Conference finals this year. So speaking on behalf of four people the city of Miami. I'm just saying live tomorrow on A._B._C..

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Iowa Shocks the Nation

The Forecast with Harry Enten

34:46 min | 10 months ago

Iowa Shocks the Nation

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Employers who post on Ziprecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day Ziprecruiter Ruder. The smartest way to hire see. Why ziprecruiter is effective for businesses of all sizes trust Ziprecruiter for free at our web address? ZIPRECRUITER DOT COM SLASH CNN pod. That's ziprecruiter dot com slash C. N. N. P. O. D. Hello everyone and welcome to the forecast fast. I I'm Keith. Baldwin here with John Avalon and Harian konichi-wa. Come on you know Shalom. I mean gene. I'm just saying that you're embarrassed to break out of it. I loved it every week. He wants to reinvent the wheel. The wheel is just fine. You know what sometimes you wanna a break from the character that is your life there is it is an impossibility reading already. Where I where I am now you get delivered with it all right? We don't have time to talk because we have a lot to talk about on Monday friends. The Iowa Caucus finally happened and it turned out great. Everybody super it. was everybody fantabulous. This what else say super coordinated super well done and answers the question. Is there an APP for that. has now officially been answered. Okay it did not turn out quite as we expected obviously the vote reporting debacle. Michael Delayed the results from the opening contest. The State's Democratic Party said at least in part had to do with this new APP that they were using to report results and said it failed due to a coating issue. Learn how to Code folks. Learn how to code as of this moment and I'm thinking only say as of this moment as we are taping and talking to you A winner is still not known so the candidates have essentially said. Thanks but no thanks and they moved to New Hampshire later So what happened. What is happening? What does the Iowa? SBN for New Hampshire and a top it off. There's another debate this week. We're going to answer all of that and Harry's forecast for granite state but I we really do just need to mind Meld About Iowa which is after leaving his all in the dark and I only care about myself of course The Democratic Party did finally release some results. It's now come out in two batches delicious at this at at this very moment with seventy one percent reporting you have p booted in the lead with twenty six point eight Percent Bernie Sanders at twenty five point two percent very basically locked the top Elizabeth Warren at eighteen point four percent Joe Biden at fifteen point. Four Enemy Club Ajar Char- at twelve point six percent and so on and so forth. Come anyone wanted to begin. Well I wait so so you. People who are listening can actually see the spreadsheet Rana's podcast is but if you know they're right here that's that's right. They're they're all with us there with us in our hearts and salts yes go look. What's so interesting is we have this spreadsheet here and what Kate read to you was the state delicate equivalent equivalent total thing that really matters in the end so don't get in the weeds except that's the whole point of this podcast? That's exactly right. That's the way that the major news networks are determining determining going to project a winner so on so forth. But what's so interesting. Of course I vote in that final vote and from each category you go from. I vote to final vote. After realignment to total statewide delegate equivalents the margin between Sanders and Buddha judge shrinks and becomes better for Buddha judge and ultimately he takes the lead in the statewide elegant equivalent category and that to me is a story here of people to judge being organized in Iowa you get more statewide delegate equivalents per attendee tendency in the more rural areas and also that people to judge was a lot of people second choice and he gained three alignment. This is a victory for organization initiation and a victory for being people's second choice for people to judge. You know I was pretty sure that The the phrase victory for organization would not apply to anything involving This caucus but look you know. There's also the expectations game and expectations were very high for Bernie Sanders Buddha. Judge really did seem to out organize is him again. He has benefited from the fact that he's ahead so far. We don't know how this is GonNa end. Well okay. Let's stop there. Do you guys see with with twenty nine more percents to go In reporting that this could wildly change. Look I have the scars from twenty twelve. Where Mitt Mitt Romney was declared the winner and then folks realized after the fact and I did reporting this I call the precinct and helped establish that actually I would? GOP was lying to everybody. And that the the actual winner would be Ultimately Rick Santorum which it was but it deprived them entirely of that bumpy deserved I. I would believe based upon what I understand. Dan Of. What's out is we have tallies from all ninety nine counties The precinct do seem to be fairly represented going on. There is still some doubt. That's why the networks aren't projecting thing it more likely than not Buddha judge will ultimately be the winner in the statewide allegata equivalent. But I honestly think that misses the forest for the trees or whatever the heck the saying his records for the Squirrel what actually I surely don't eat cheese before newness they sent in basketball Look here's the thing peop- Ludi judge regardless of whether he's barely I barely second very much outperformed his polls Bernie Sanders did about as well as his polling indicated and that forth. Name that you read. I don't for folks who might forget it Biden the former vice president of the United States coming in what seems to be fourth the place in the first nation conscious where he campaigned. Look it's not a great state for him demographically. He does very well among African American voters. If you've ever been Iowa outside really of Des Moines and maybe a few other of the metropolitan areas really aren't a lot of them In the state but that is not a good showing for someone who originally claimed that they'd be viable all over the place and simply put if you look at the returns. He wasn't viable. I believe in about thirty percent of the Caucasus. Not a good result for really while it really wild. It is an look at Biden's history with Iowa. Well so there a couple of factors one one. There's more to the point where people thought that he would pick up. People from club Char Dr Buddha judge who ended up seemingly going for Buddha judge and we should talk about also about the fact that if he does win it you know it is extraordinary We have historic moment. That no one's talking about which itself is a measure of progress and we the first openly gay candidate when it costs her primary in American history. That's a big deal and I think it's great that it's not the headline because it's his campaign is about much much more than than that Aspect of his identity. That said Biden's always done better on national numbers. He's we've always known he's going to do worse in a caucus type situation so I'm not sure why there's as much surprise As this the expectations game was never particularly played. Because when you're running on I'm the most most likely in best chance to beat Donald Trump. When you're running on that well you know what it's what you get? I and include you've got this kind of collision course of right caucuses aren't a great measure of that. But it is the first contest that you've got and that is where you get momentum and that it is when sets up the expectations and said you up for the next contest. So you've got these things that collide and regardless. There's no way I know and I'M GONNA keep talking without taking your breasts so oh he can't jump in if things remain at his is. This is bad. This is so bad for Joe Biden. What is David axelrod quotes a coded a song long last night Coverage he said something. There's some line from a song that's how can I miss. You never leave or something like just another word for nothing left to lose out together. Okay opened up again. The reason you you hit on the key point gain the word expectations. Expectations expectations are everything. And I. It doesn't matter because of the number of delegates that are won and lost. The fact is the delegates going onto the state to the national convention will probably be the same between Buddha. Judging Sanders at the end of the day the reason I will matters. It's not that delegates don't matter Mr Avalon. Delegates do matter at the end of the day but the reason why I o matters is expectations momentum facts and expectations coming into this. Were that Bernie. Sanders was that Bernie Ernie Sanders. Who's going to win? But that Joe Biden was going to be competitive with him and if you look at these results no matter if you look at the first vote the final vote or the total statewide delegate equivalent equivalents he simply put was not an Buddha judge clearly out performed expectations and we can talk about the narrative and the concrete political impacts of the narrative. But I mean I just point that seems to come out of this particular debacle is that candidates spend six months focusing on one hundred seventy two thousand caucus-goers or in a in a state that is a great state educated per capita but Republic Democrats have been trying to reform their primary in caucus process for years. It was almost a few years ago. There was a proposal when Terry McAuliffe is head of the DNC to make it a rotating regional primary I don't see see how Iowa doesn't lose the status. There's got to be a better way to pick a president United States. So is there more that can even though. It's not a great barometer. Maybe be exactly where the democratic is but is there. What do we then learn from these numbers other than right? Joe Biden has A problem just to put it simply but what about what we learned from the Buddha Jentzsch performance. Here is it that that they he has has a distinct message that he has been pitching right. I followed him around New Hampshire and in one of the things that he is he says every stop is part of the appeal in order to win against Donald. Trump is to reach out to what he likes to call future former Republicans and it's disaffected Republicans. You look at those however how many what is it. Thirty plus swing swing counties pivot counties in Iowa and I don't know if we have the war out of the thirty one as of this taping. We're going for Buddha. Judge over Bernie Sanders. That's a big deal. I mean if if you're talking about electability that's that looks like electability to some folks. It does look like electability two billion you know you mentioned people to just message. Sounds a lot like Joe. Biden's message in a case of reaching out to the middle trinet. I think was perhaps the story here here which we hit on a little bit earlier and that was the question that strength of who runs that lane who you have this progressive line. You have this moderate lane supposedly those was obviously. You're not perfect. We've spoken about that before but it does appear at least in terms of media narratives that people to judge one that quote Unquote Lane in Iowa. The question question going forward isn't necessarily even whether or not a winning New Hampshire which I actually think he has a decent shot at doing but rather rather what happens when the electorate starts. It's looking more like the Democratic Party instead of as a very just to be perfectly honest with you. Nineteen fifties suburban cancer. Well and look look. I mean Buddha judges message and his demeanor I mean it is an extraordinary rise has been able to achieve for the former mayor of South Bend. Indiana thirty seven years old it speaks to his. Political Talents has communications talents. The way he's differentiated himself. There were a ton of folks who tried to run in the center lane who had better records and statewide elected officials. Who who couldn't win place or show and dropped out months ago? It is symbolic on on so major props to an extraordinary achievement for him him and his campaign. Liz Smith follow my goodness. Yeah but let's well. Let's let's watch what happens as it goes forward because the other thing That I think could happen and is that all of a sudden the former mayor of New York City could be very well positioned to take advantage of this chaos. And of course Jon talking about Mike. Rudy Giuliani Ah David Dinkins Bloomberg and when Mike Bloomberg answers the real key really I mean. He's entered the conversation when you look at obviously the ads that he's in the money he's putting in but when he really enters the race comes Tuesday In March okay. So what is we talked so much about. The lead up to Iowa is the big big surprise people to ditch or is the big surprise. Joe Biden I think the Buddha judge story has taken more of the top line here especially especially given the the polling booth judge. Even at the end wasn't that good. You know Gosh. All of the conversation at the very end was did he peak to peak. I do say so on so forth and in fact it turns out. He didn't peak too soon He regardless of whatever metric you look at he's either in first or second place as of this typing. He did not peak too soon. He seems to have an ability. You know look as this field narrows eventually early winter even further. There's going to be a question as to which candidate is best positioned to pick up the support of those other candidates and what these Iowa results seemed to indicate. Is that it. Buddha judge is in a far better position than Biden or certainly sanders to pick up people on that second choice voice and that's going to be very very pivotal going and the Democratic Party has gravitated to the hot hand Historically a young fresh face I'll say the other surprise we're not talking about Elizabeth Warren really had trouble converting at the end of the day It it really appears that. Not only did Bernie beat her in the left lane pretty considerably really but for all her. Really Vaunted Iowa enthusiasm and organization talk about peaking too early I think she had trouble actually taking you. You know accounting because a Lotta again back to what people were talking about throughout the lead up was that Elizabeth Warren and people were rivaling other for organization and Ground Game and how much time they're spending on the ground and how much effort they're putting into their organization efforts and you don't really see that Pan out for Elizabeth Warren. I I think what's so key here. Is You know I spoke about the three counts. That final vote to total stander delegate equivalents and why that's important for Elizabeth. Warren is it. Gives you an understanding meaning of not just the depth but the breath of support and you need to be doing better in those rural counties in order to to hold onto your percentage in the final statewide delegate equivalents compare that final vote and we see warned support drop by near by a little more than two percentage points of this taping that is the largest drop of any candidates in the top four and that is an indication that her support is very much focused in on those urban areas those well educated areas and you know what there are a lot of white college white collar voters in the Democratic Party but the the fact is they're not that many of them so the the part of the problem. They say with the caucuses was the fact that there is more transparency and more more data that they were putting out so now for the first time. That was the problem. Were you part of what we now have. Is I guess. kind of the equivalent of a popular vote when it comes to Iowa's well and that's what Bernie Sanders seeing that. He's says that he's winning is so. Is that a win. I know I don't think a win. Because because the fact is that what we care about at the end of the day is delegates and popular. Vote doesn't necessarily translate to that although that final vote and they'll we'll have about an equal number of statewide delegates but again it's just about the mojo coming out. I mean it's it is about the Mojo but think of it this way right now Bernie Sanders has about twenty eighty five percent of the statewide delegate equivalents people to judge has twenty seven percent look at the two thousand sixteen results right. What Hillary Clinton was at fifty Bernie Sanders was it about fifty fifty so by any either of those two metrics Bernie Sanders has lost ground? It's not just that. His support was cut in half. This is obviously a much larger field. So that's not too much of a surprise but he actually compared to the leading candidate is doing worse than he did. Four years ago as well as well as compared to himself the points worse versus as competitive his leading competitor and that to me is not necessarily a great thing and now it's going to be about expectations going forward and if you think the expectations were high for Bernie Sanders going in Iowa. Let me tell you. You Ain't seen nothing yet. He Won Hampshire by. How many freaking points last time around to you are going to be well? 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Can you give folks the lay of the land for your forecast in the granite state. Please yeah so this is rather interesting right. I've been doing this doing these odds based upon historical predictive Nisa Pulse since one thousand nine hundred eighty. And if you looked pre I would you. Would you expect. Essentially expect in New Hampshire was that Bernie. Sanders was the clear favorite. Eleven in two thousand nine hundred eleven twenty odds of winning chance of winning which is over fifty percent sent people to judge all the way back to twenty and Joe Biden was in Third Foreign Twenty Elizabeth Warren two point five and twenty but take into account that I will bounce and this Iowa bounces announces based upon two things. It's based upon whether or not you won in Iowa and two. It's based on how much you outperformed expectations. Essentially how much better did you do. Then you're pulling average and what we'd expect here bracy enters. Its is certainly still the favourite in New Hampshire at least according to my math but he drops a little bit below fifty percent of nine point. Five out of in two thousand nine chance of winning but people judge goes from two hundred twenty chance of winning to a five in twenty chance of winning. He's up considerably while the former vice president dips to a two point. Five five chance in twenty and so that to me is indicative of what we might expect in New Hampshire. We've seen large bounces coming out of Iowa before for winners especially when they do significantly better than their polling average suggests that they will so one of the things that fascinates me about new. Hampshire's first of all you you. It's one of the few states I think they're the ten nine nine states were registered. Independents Outnumber Democrats Republicans. New Hampshire's famously. One of them live for your die and so that's always. It was a major X.. Factor when its primary. Come around the other one is there's a neighboring state Elected official impact. That's traditionally had been a thing now that as well right so you got double. We've had that before we we've had that dynamic before but Bernie Sanders. Winning by twenty last time around or thereabouts is nuts given the character through the state but he is popular shares media market popular in Vermont. Elizabeth Warren being so down in this poll is really interesting to me given her prominence in Massachusetts. That's just politics and Buddha judge given that his whole campaign is saying. Kate has been predicated on trying to win. Over independent voters is probably better positioned than one would typically quickly think coming out of Iowa especially that bound so obviously expectations high for sanders. But a judge has the right message for the state. Typically pretty centers by the way does not necessarily early. But I'm fascinated that warren really doesn't seem to be in a competitive position for a neighboring state in in my odds and I should say the based off oppose. It's not I don't produce use my own polls John Although you know maybe we can start a call center together. Wouldn't that be nice. We call everybody up trying get we'd be stuck there for hours based upon response rates these days being it. It'd be remarkable. I hang up if I called my cell look before before the Iowa results. Warren was essentially title Buddha judge in the pulse. And this is something I've always wondered about Elizabeth Warren Right. You know we were talking about whether or not. She had to disappoint performance and I would argue that. She did but in in a state like New Hampshire. They know her Massachusetts and New Hampshire share the Boston media market. And she's the people who know her best don't seem to be going overwhelmingly for or her and in a choice between sanders as the next door neighbor and warn the next door neighbor sanders has been essentially lapping Elizabeth. Warren and I don't don't you know look she's not out of the game. Strange things can happen. She's not a nail shot in New Hampshire but the fact is is she's behind in the polls and I don't think there's a really good shot that she's GonNa win. There is New Hampshire maker break for anyone now in this new reality that they're all operating in which is post the massive Iowa. I think I think New Hampshire has a bigger than most states historically because it takes the I will comment which is relatively small crystallizes it in a primary the crucial then becomes what happens in South Carolina. Yana Vada but that always gets underplayed historically and and then onto Super Tuesday I think given that they're the Iowa results were so muddled if Buddha judge contended continue the momentum. That's a very big deal for his campaign. It's really the pathway forward for people to judge us to continue his campaign momentum. In New Hampshire. These are two states two states that are custom. I'm built for him in the sense that he does best among white voters. He's had a real problem connecting with non white voters. If he can't win New Hampshire going for where else is he supposed nice to win. Is He supposed to win in Wyoming. Is that where he supposed to win. which has pretty much no delegates he has to win? He has to build up momentum from New Hampshire that he hopes that he can carry through to Nevada and so on so forth. He doesn't need to win necessarily Nevada and he certainly doesn't necessarily need a win South Carolina but he probably needs to do well in New Hampshire. The fact is that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth. Warren also have to do really well in New Hampshire being next door and become a sanders performance last. Here's a dumb question alert. The last times Joe Biden has run the team. Make it to New Hampshire. No he did not. That's right so this is he's he's actually made it this time. He's made it to the New Hampshire primary. Congratulations like remember. He dropped out before any of the eighty eight and he dropped right so he's made it that far. You're but look I think Joe Biden does need a good performance here but the fact is as we sort of go through the less right. It almost seems like they all need good performances. In New Hampshire agree I mean but boot ejb being and being in the position that he's in meaning he still you know he's he's got this big boost of momentum and real validation for his strategy. Did you coming out of Iowa but still His lack of support that we've seen against non white voters at least in the poll. So far he does. Ah Smart money is he's gotTa do. Well in New Hampshire even get a look in Nevada and South Carolina considerations up against and it's very unclear. WHO's the Baden backup in in South Carolina? If if he phase I mean by. I know you started out as a joke. I honestly I'm not sure it's necessarily much of a joke. I star Tom. Steiner in South Carolina has been polled. Here folks folks and it's Li- explained. Why is how much money on advertisements in advertisements in the state of South Carolina and that is probably going to be a majority African American electorate? It's going to be much more moderate than the electorates than we've seen so far in these contests and if it's not not Joe Biden in South Carolina. Then it's got to be someone and Tom Stiers Been Holland. Pretty well there. That's profound it's got to be someone it's got to be someone you know who it might be it might be Jonathon. Let's switch gears now. On Friday. Candidates are going to face off once again on the debate stage. I know keep believe this week Iowa Super Bowl Iowa more Iowa impeachment state of the Union townhall townhall than aid following us. That's a resume. As has of this recording seven candidates have made the cut biden booted edge Clova Char- Sanders Star Warren and Yang Andrew. I forgot about him. What are you talking about? What is GONNA happen? Come Friday one thing. I think we should probably all agree on is people is going to be the center of attention which means it's going to be the center of the attacks. You got that right. They are going to. You know we've been wondering when it would be the real attacks Buddha judge. I thought they were going to happen. I think back in a December debate didn't occur. Now is the time if you're going to stop the helium balloon from getting too high in the air. You've got to go now now now. Now expect the knives to be out. This isn't child's planning more knives will be out for Buddha judge. I expect the knives to be out for Sanders. It's about converting voters stopping momentum. Can I ask you a question though. Because there's a difference the two parties right. We have a symmetric polarization. Is there evidence that negative attacks work As well in the Democratic primary is due in the Republican or is the evidence actually that they can backfire and hurt the person who got Elizabeth Warren earlier. This year seem to have that momentum right then they went after her medicare for all so on so forth. I I see I would argue that. The Medicare for all things hurt her was actually people take a look at the position not negative attack that it was actually ideologically an outlier. While we haven't heard I hadn't heard Bernice enters but what he's talking to you can taking an additional tax personal attack like. Let me play one out. Who wants to play Chris Christie? And who wants to play Marco Rubio from the last or that was a good one. Good one night before the Saturday night. I really WANNA nitpicking on that poll. Numbers don't happening the big on that anyway. Right before the New Hampshire Prime Republican primary in two thousand six nope vows yes sixteen feels like I was going to go eight. And I was like years ago Debate stage Republicans Marco Rubio given is line. I'm here to say words. It's I'm here to say words and Chris Christie had a perfect personal attack on him which was based. Yes there you go again. And and I mean not that Mark Marco Rubio you could argue is already on. It was a little bit but it was it was being. Is there any evidence that the negative of attacks don't backfire on in the Democratic primary I don't think there's no evidence to me. That suggests that you shouldn't go after someone. I will say the one thing I will note is that Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders TIFF In January January over whether or not he had said that a woman candidate couldn't be Donald Trump did not seemed and to benefit her. It did not seem to necessarily hurt. Bernie Sanders So that's the bet that wine cave comes up again. I wouldn't be surprised if one came the series but no. I think you're going to get. You're going to get his lack of African American support in his hometown. You're GONNA get wine cave I don't imagine anyone will mention his sexuality nor should they battle never happen but but look that will be a hurdle he has to cross With certain communities this country. And it'll be interesting. You see how that's raised in a in a civil I don't think it will be. But that's something that he's going to have to deal with and and I think it's been extraordinary. His pint binary nature his candidacy That he has transcended all these a lot of deep history of bigotry in this country when it comes to the Lgbtq community yeah But it's not like that's over something that's also unique about New Hampshire voters right now is there's a high high number of undecideds right and it was like New Hampshire doesn't invite because that's a that's an exciting element. I think an important element that you know that these candidates are going to be considering they is they hit the debate stage. There's convincing it's it's not just rallying it's convincing there are these block of voters who have a pretty good understanding that I want a B or C but I'm not sure which one I want I'm not sure who has the best chance of winning. And essentially you see this movement towards them in the final moments at sometimes the polls capture. Sometimes it doesn't in the case of Iowa Buddha the judge most of the polls really didn't capture that that sort of more moderate lane vote There is going. It's going to be interesting to see if Buddha judge can capitalize as we were talking before on those I will result in New Hampshire and the idea that he has momentum and will this debate help shape that further and again. His is core pitch of his candidacy. Actually is a better fit for the voters of New Hampshire that were in in especially out of Iowa. They're not changing anything and their strategy. I mean it is that validation of their strategy in Iowa rather than anything else has as we began the podcast Harry always tries to reinvent the wheel even though wheeled best pretty. Gosh darn good seem to me that the wheel and I will work pretty. Gosh darn good for people to judge. Why reinvent it in New Hampshire? Gosh to rolling in Manchester Stern today things much for listening. 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Interview with former DNC Chair Howard Dean and CNN Political Commentator Mark McKinnon; Interview with Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy.

"Fernie blowout Senator Bernie Sanders wins with a broad coalition in Nevada. Let me thank the people on the battle but they are support has his opponents try to slow his momentum Senator Sanders believes in an inflexible ideological revolutions. But are they too late? Pivotal Point candidate setting their sights on South Carolina and Super Tuesday. Were alive and we're coming back and we'RE GONNA win with a huge number of delegates up for grabs. Can anyone catch up to sanders? Former Democratic presidential candidate and party Chairman Howard Dean and Political Advisor Mark. Mckinnon join me. Plus Russian rerun intelligence officials brief lawmakers about Russia's interference in the election again they are trying to cause chaos trying 'cause Atri is it working Democratic senator. Chris Murphy joins me to discuss in moments. Hello I'm Jake Tapper in Washington welcome to these Special Nevada caucus edition of our show. Where the state of our union is watching voters. Feeling the burn Senator Bernie Sanders has taken one more step closer to the Democratic presidential nomination after an overwhelming. Victory in Nevada's caucuses last night. The votes are still coming in but right now the Vermont senators. Victory is not just impressive. Numerically but demographically. He promised to replicate across the United States in Nevada. We have just put together a multi generational multi reg racial coalition. Which is GonNa not only win in Nevada? It's GONNA sweep this country former vice president. Joe Biden appears to be in second place behind sanders in Nevada so he lives to fight another day now looks to South Carolina voters to revive his campaign butts with early momentum and a half dozen candidates splitting the Non Sanders Democratic Votes Sanders could be on track to winning are prohibitive number of delegates in just the next two weeks a possibility that former South Bend Indiana mayor. Buddha judge warned voters about in stark terms last night before we rush to nominate Senator Sanders in our one. Shot to take on this president. Let us take a sober. Look at wasn't a stick. Cnn reporters are covering the democratic campaigns from coast to coast this morning as they move onto the next voting states. Let's start with CNN. National Correspondent Athena Jones in Austin taxes with the sanders campaign in Sanders gave his Nevada victory speech last night in San Antonio Texas high take. It's pretty remarkable at. That is a sign of a confident candidate and confident campaign the fact that he had already moved on here to Texas which is one of the biggest delegate prizes on Super Tuesday now a couple of weeks away and it showed that he was confident they do well in Nevada. You know he lost Nevada. The Nevada caucuses to Hillary Clinton back in two thousand sixteen but he came out. Way Ahead Last night he did very well among Latinos winning Latinos and also adding a to his support by about five points among black voters. And so the interesting thing about Nevada about Texas is that these are among the first big diverse states and so that was one of the big questions facing nauseous Bernie Sanders but all of these candidates was Kenny. Expand HIS COALITION. Will he said look on the ground and they were able to do it They were confident in their organization. They did a lot of Latino outreach They're going to do or they're planning to do and hoping to do the same thing here in Texas where. There's a huge black and Latino population which makes up about half of the electorate here in Texas. Early voting is an important thing to mention here and that is That's began last Tuesday. It goes into a Friday answer the fact that he's done now before rallies by the end of today and some of the biggest cities in Texas he's trying to get that energy Drought a what he calls a multiracial multi racial multi generally generational coalition to help him over the finish line here in Texas as well and to do a lot of that work During early voting. Jake Alright Athena Germans in Texas C. N. N.'s senior Washington correspondent Jeff Zeleny in Charleston South Carolina. That's the state former vice president. Joe Biden has called. His firewall and Jeff Biden was polling strongly in South Carolina a couple of months ago. Does it remain his firewall? Can he count on winning their Jake? There's no question that he must win here. The next six days or the most important for Joe Biden's political career and this is why if he does not revive his candidacy here in South Carolina with a win. It convincing win. His candidacy will not be able to go forward. The question of a firewall is an open. One he's going to be making that argument as he travels around South Carolina for the next several days. He flew here overnight from Nevada. He'll be meeting with voters on Sunday afternoon and throughout the week and the question is can he make that argument that he is the strongest candidate to win in the fall. It's an open one because the racist changed this was not what Joe Biden was expecting. He was always hoping that South Carolina would launch him onto Super Tuesday and it still might but now the question is even as a win here. Is that enough for him? I was talking to one of his top supporters last evening. Who says that there is still a path? Joe Biden no question. Sixty percent of the democratic electorate in the primary here is African Americans. Joe Biden is going to be counting on that but she does not have as much money as opponents is not advertising as much as his opponent. So it is very much a argument that he is going to be making without the resources that others have and the fact that Super Tuesday comes three days after the South Carolina. Primary challenge for him as well. Jake Joe Biden is going to revive himself. It is going to happen here in South Carolina. He'll start that argument here today. Jake Alright Jeff Zeleny in Charleston South Carolina. Thanks so much. Let's dig now into the state of the race joining me now. Former Democratic presidential candidate and former DNC chairman Howard Dean and former presidential adviser Mark Mckinnon. Who worked for George W Bush? Thanks so much to both for being with us a governor deal and start with you. You've said that quote any attempt to derail Bernie that I've ever seen has always blown up in the face of the derail you and have a history going back. Decades obviously in Vermont Bernie Sanders is going to be the Democratic nominee. Look I think it's much too early to tell. I do think his win was incredibly impressive. Not so much because of the margin but because you really we are core base our young people people of Color and women and he really nail two of those. I haven't seen the breakdown gender But he was so he's on his way but he's got a long way to go here and I don't think we're going to have any coaching idea. Who's really going to end up at the Convention until after the Tuesday past Super Tuesday so three weeks from now. We're going to have a really good idea who the players are right now. We are six. Viable candidates are mark. Let me ask you. Sanders has now won the popular. Vote in Iowa as well as outright. Winning the New Hampshire primary and the Nevada caucuses realistically speaking mark. Do you think there's any way to stop them? Actually I don't Jake. The facts. Sanders train has left the station. Impressive win in Nevada. Across the board as as governor said kind of across all demographic groups is a seventy eight year old man attracting young voters. So there's something going on here. That defies the conventional wisdom. And I think Disagree with the governor. A little bit here. Which is to say. He's GonNa Come Out South Carolina in pretty good shape. It looks like and now. He's got tons of resources for Super Tuesday across the board. So I think in pretty short order not only is he going to be prohibitive front runner. But I think he's running up margins that make it much harder for anybody else to go into the convention and say listen even though you don't have a majority We we should. We should contest this. Because he's just running up the numbers in such such a fashion beyond expectation. I think it gives them a much stronger. Hand in Milwaukee Governor. You afraid of what it might mean for the Democratic Party in terms of winning the White House in November or winning down ballot tickets if Bernie Sanders is a nominee. Does that concern you? The Not at all. I'll tell you why. He certainly is a polarizing candidate but we have incredibly polarizing person on the other side are as I said before he showed last night that he can energize our core base. I am a believer in the theory. That it isn't swing voters that's the definition of a swing vote or somebody who votes or doesn't vote not somebody who's GonNa love go back. And forth between Republicans Democrats so my definition of a swing voter. If he continues to do this I do think he's going to be the nominee. But I'm not ready to say that there's five other competent People who are in. There's going to be another debate. We're GONNA see more there But certainly I think I'd probably rather be where Bernie than anybody else mark. I've heard some people who are skeptical of Bernie Sanders in November. Some Democrats say that the only way to stop him is for other nonstandard candidates to drop out so it's really just ultimately a choice between sanders and whether it's Bloomberg or Biden or whatever what do you think of people who are theorizing about that. What do you think about those theories? Well I think this impracticality and that theory there needs to be cold coalescing on the moderate lane of this primary and it's probably GonNa Happen here in Short Order. I think Amy Kluber showers likely to drop out and and and maybe others after Super Tuesday but You know the fact is that you've got Biden and you've got Bloomberg who are likely to go pretty long way down the line but at the end of the day the problem is the Bloomberg had such a poor debate performance. He's not very good standing to say that he has a lot of delegates. City should be the nominee and by just doesn't have the resources governor Took aim at Senator Sanders last night. In his speech he called Sanders campaign quote and inflexible ideological revolution. That leaves out most Democrats. Is He wrong no? I'm happy to have that debate. That is what the debate about this primaries. Look this is a contest for the most powerful office in the world so Y- people are GonNa say things like that and they should. I mean that's what the debate is about. And that's what the Democratic Party gets to decide in this process leading up to Milwaukee. I'm very comfortable with that. There are not any of these candidates that I would be worried about getting our nomination. I think this is an amazing year. When you have six people still left in the race when I was there there were three people that one of the lowest of which was me and I lived along till Wisconsin before I finally dropped out leaving it a race between Kerry and Edwards and Carrie came in I in every one of those so. This is a really unusual year. We've got a lot of talent and I'm not worried about what people say that. Look the voters will punish people if they don't like what they're saying and Marley ask you because I remember a different insurgent Democrat from Vermont running for President in two thousand and four his name was Howard Dean and there were a lot of people in the Democratic Establishment fretting about whether or not he could beat George W Bush but I also know that there were people in the Bush campaign that we're worried about Howard Dean getting the nomination. Because he might be able to energize young people and Grassroots Democrats. What do you think great point? Well I can tell you for a fact we were much more worried about Howard Dane than we were John Kerry. Why because now lear convictions and I think there's a lot of that in Bernie Sanders too. I think again. It's conventional wisdom that because of where he's ideologically there'd be easier for trump and Republicans to beat but he's creating a passion among voters the same kind of passion. Uc among trump voter. So again. I think he just throw out the playbook I think Republicans may regret what they ask for the end of the day because sanders is got a narrative and his narratives. Very much like trump's. Ironically which is the system is rigged. You're getting screwed. He just has a different prescription under different. 'cause I wanNA give you governor last word there. I mean you would have been able to pose a starker contrast with Governor Bush in two thousand and four I would. Have you know the problem is I was not all that well organized and I said a few things that I probably would have been better if I hadn't said so. You know what it is what it is and again there's an example that you can't tell Who's going to win? I was something like twenty points ahead about three weeks. Before the Iowa caucuses. I didn't win the Caucasus And so we don't know what's going to happen yet. Let's not all get. This is a democratic process. I've been I think it's a really good process. Everybody complains about how long it is and all that again. If you're this is I used to say this all the time now? It has a new meaning. But if you're not tough enough to get through this process what do you do when Putin ask for Alaska back well? Unfortunately we have a president who would give it to him today. But hopefully that'll change Alaska still still part of the United States as of right now just for the record Governor Governor Dean Mark McKinnon. Thank you so much. 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We learned this week that the US intelligence community has warned lawmakers that Russia is already trying to interfere in the two thousand twenty presidential race Senator Bernie Sanders confirmed a Washington Post report that he was briefed by officials that Russia is trying to aid his campaign in the primaries as part of Russia's overall disruption campaign while president trump and a top eight or now denying what an intense intelligence official told lawmakers in a briefing that the Russians have a preference for president trump and national security official tells me that the overstated in McKee mischaracterizing intelligence regarding trump which is up now does not suggest the Russians have a preference though. They do believe they can work with President trump joining me now Democratic Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut. He's a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Senator thanks so much for being here. I want to ask about something that National Security Adviser Robert. O'brien was asked about on a different show about rush. Interfering in the twenty twenty elections specifically the Bernie Sanders Element of it. He said quote there are these reports that they want Bernie Sanders to get elected president. That's no surprise he honeymooned in Moscow. Unquote what's your response to that. Our national security advisor should stay out of politics and that is a political statement. What we know is that the Russians never stopped interfering in American politics. They don't just get involved in elections. They are involved every single day and analysis of what they've been doing on twitter. Since two thousand sixteen has been pretty clear they are weighing in over and over again in support of right wing causes in support of Donald Trump's political agenda and of course it stands to reason that Donald trump reelected because he has been a gift to Russia. He is essentially ceded the Middle East to Russian interests he has accomplished more in the undermining of NATO then Russia has in the last twenty years and he continues to effectively deny that they have an ongoing political operation here in the United States. That by in large is intended to support Donald Trump and his allies so the trump people would push back they would say that he has actually gotten NATO members to spend more on defense than previous presidents have been able to do. Which is factually. Correct is spending more on the US military than previous presidents which is also a correct in fact that all of this is hostile to what Russia would want so what we know is that NATO is weaker today than ever before the fact that Donald Trump has questioned. Whether or not the United States would even come to the defense of a NATO ally in the future is an invitation to Russia continued to probe at our borders and of course the entire impeachment scandal was over the trump administration's weakening of Ukraine a taking that country and turning it into just another political actor in the United States. Which is going to once again into message to Russia. They can try to move on. Countries on their periphery without any real consequences from the United States. They have not done. We should we should note. I want to ask you sanders. Campaign manager cited this quote from O'Brien that I read to you in a tweet and he suggests in his tweet the CASSANDRA's campaign manager that the trump administration leaked classified intelligence without context to weaponize against Bernie. That's a very strong charts. Do you agree that information ultimately came out what I am worried about is the politicization of intelligence by this administration. The new acting head of INTELLIGENCE HAS NO BACKGROUND IN INTEL. He is a trump loyalist. And I think we all worry about this administration. Controlling massive amounts of intelligence massive amounts of classified information and leaking out to the press went into advantages them. I have been very worried about the kind of information. The trump administration keeps classified. There have been multiple. Instances of the trump administration keeping classified information. That might be politically embarrassing to the president but actually doesn't hold any true national security classified information so the weaponization of classified information. I think is something that we are more worried about especially with this new acting director of intelligent. What are you talking about when they say they're keeping information secret because it might damaging we talk about the John Bolton Book Cordy what do you mean? The John? Bolton book certainly is an example of information that may not actually need to be classified but simply embarrassing to the president. The information regarding Mike Pence's meeting in regarding Ukraine that was kept classified during the impeachment proceedings involve no classified information. The only reason that that was classified was because it would have hurt the president's case during the impeachment trial. I want to ask you about your recent meeting. Last week I guess with Iranian Foreign Ministers Arief in Munich. President Trump said this week that he thought you're meeting was illegal. Take a listen Senator Murphy. met with the Iranians. Is that a fact. I just saw that on the way over. Is there anything that I should know? Because that sounds like a violation of Logan. Act The Logan. Act as you know but our viewers might not is a law that bars unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. Did you tell the president or the State Department you were going to meet with Aretha and if not why I did. I learned the State Department ahead of time. It is of course. My job is a member of the Foreign Relations Committee. And as the top Democrat in the Middle East subcommittee to meet with regional leaders even our adversaries and the fact of the matter is it's dangerous that this administration is not talking to the Iranians. The trump policy on Iran has been a total disaster. Iran is more powerful today than they were the beginning of the trump presidency. They've restarted their nuclear program. They're shooting it. Us troops they're offering more support for proxies. I'm not negotiating with Iran. But it does make sense somebody to be listening to them and to be engaged in some level of outreach as perhaps a means of trying to avert crisis and disaster down the road. We'll a couple minutes left but I do. WanNa ask you about the twenty twenty campaign. A one of the issues that you're known for the most is pushing for further regulation firearms guns During the two thousand sixteen campaign Senator Sanders was asked about whether the victims families in the Sandy Hook Connecticut. Shooting should be able to sue gun manufacturers. This is what he said. I think the right the right yes. A crowd with should be able to sue the manufacturer. Russia cracked grounds suits. But not if you Silvio legal product you responded on twitter saying quote Burns a friend but this is really bad. Democrats can't nominate a candidate who support gun manufacturer immunity since then. He has changed his position. But you still have concerns about Senator Sanders position on guns. None None Senator. Sanders has stood with us over and over again on expanding background checks on taking these dangerous assault weapons off the streets to the extent that he had made statements in the past questioning whether or not victims families should be able to sue me. He voted against as changed that position. He has been ally. Every single candidate in this Democratic primary has taken a very strong position has made it clear that they are going to make it a priority To solve this epidemic of gun violence if they get the nomination if they're elected president do you have any concerns about Bernie? Sanders is the Democratic nominee in terms of visibility to beat president trump in November. Or how much? He might hurt down ballot. Democrats who are in more moderate districts I do not think Bernie Sanders will be Donald Donald Trump. I think Joe Biden would be donald trump elizabeth warmer to beat Donald Trump. What we need is a candidate who has a base of enthusiastic supporters who authentic who speaks truth to power who can throw a punch and who can take a punch. I think anybody. That's pulling in the top four or five fits that bill but Bernie's base of support the enthusiasm behind him. I think speaks to the strength of his candidacy. Both in the primary but as a general election candidate as well. Are you very strong? Are you endorsing him or are you supporting you? I'm not endorsing anyone. I think that this primary is going to be a test of who is ready. Who Tough enough to take on. President trump remember only five percent of the country has voted yet. I mean I burned on very well in the opening primaries. But this thing is not a done deal. Any of the candidates who are polling well in these early primaries and Mayor Bloomberg still has a very good shot at the nomination or Senator Chris Murphy Democrat of Connecticut. We appreciate your time. Thank you could the next week. And a half determine which candidate becomes the Democratic presidential nominee will take a look at the upcoming democratic contests with our panel next. Stay with us. Welcome to hop ones the game show. It's just hot sauces questions and eventually some Harper. I didn't know as possible for your eyeballs to sweat. Sean Evans hosts hot ones. The game show a new series on TV book into the Steam Room. Everybody Ernie Johnson Charles Barkley. We own a role right now. Is this a chance to blow off? Steam yes I can't Brag about. Show that just make you an apple subscribing download the steam room on your favorite podcast APP. Every Thursday subscribe in Nevada. We have just put together a multi generational multi racial coalition which is not only win in Nevada. It's GONNA sweep this country senator. Sanders believes in an inflexible ideological revolution. That leaves out most Democrats. That was the projected winner of the Nevada Caucus Senator Bernie Sanders declaring victory. His rival Buddha just tries to stop his momentum. Let's discuss Alexandra. Let me start with you. Congratulations I know. You're a big fan of Senator Sanders. Senator Warren what do you make of the Buddha judge attack on Senator Sanders that his ideology is inflexible and leaves out the Democratic Party. I understand he's likely to be the nominee at least based on today's facts. But is there room for Senator Sanders to try to expand his rhetoric to make people feel more included? Well I think that we should just take a look at the results of last night's election which show that Bernie Sanders is actually the one that is creating a broad coalition. You know it's pretty unique. I think in American politics have someone that is not only bringing in young people People people of Color Communities of color that have been historically not you know ignored by both parties but he's also bringing in moderates bringing in the white working class that all of the DC pundits so much obsess over. So it's a pretty big opportunity. I am now but it's true like we always talk about. You know the Obama trump voter and it seems like Bernie. Sanders is not just appealing to to those people. He's appealing to all of American. I think that's extraordinary. What do you do you think that he could be stopped? Don't understand there's a long way to go. We have fifty four more states and territories left to to give delegates. Pump your brakes on everyone who wants to say that we have a nominee but Bernie sanders an amazing performance yesterday across the board on. He has another test. I larger test looming test in South Carolina. This week because the question is can he expand his base? Can he expand his electorate? And I don't know the answer to that. If Bernie Sanders wants to be the nominee. He cannot be swept throughout the south. That doesn't bode well going into a contested convention. And so we'll have to see how well he can do. He will have to see how well he can do. With black voters in south the argument there is that if if I'm a Democrat is we're GONNA lose this out to the general election so the fact that Joe Biden can win states that we're never going to be competitive. In general election really have no concept with all due respect. I'm pointing out the fact that in the south who you have the backbone of again voters why that is essential that I get Johnson but but if the Sanders Campaign. I'm saying look I can win in Pennsylvania. I can win in Michigan. I can win in these states where I'm going to win in the Democratic primary and I'm not gonNA we're not GonNa Win Alabama. We're not GONNA win South Carolina so the fact that Joe Biden can win. There really is no concept. Let me just ask. The client is asking about the Latino. Vote for one second. Because this is part of the argument Sanders is making sanders. Want according to entrance polls in Nevada fifty one percent of Hispanic vote in Nevada. And he says look with that vote. Not only can. I wouldn't have added general election. I can win Texas. I know and I frankly that was the most surprising thing to me of the entire evening was the fifty one percent of Hispanic voter for For Bernie and I think it has to do with his saying I'm GonNa give you free college and by the way I'm GonNa wipe out your debt if you happen to have gone to college and Gotten yourself into that. I'm going to wipe it out but the problem is the real winner. Last night I believe was Putin. I mean we're going to have the most divisive election. If Bernie is the nominee we are going to see two very very angry people representing two very different extremes of their parties and I think that helps make America more chaotic. It makes us more divisive and I think the one that gets advantaged by that is Russia. And I think it's it's interesting. You know. I I hear that. Progressives are labeled as divisive. They're labeled as this tiny fraction of America. But I think you know. Obviously it's only the first four states but this is a huge indicator he won fifty one percent of the Latinos. You know everybody was saying that. Joe Biden's firewall. For South Carolina's black voters will the same can be said with Latinos for Bernie Sanders now And this is a community that right now is being targeted by the trump administration. I don't think it's because of a bunch of free stuff. I think it's actually because he was doing the work outreaching per community the immigration. He voted against a two thousand seven Immigration proposal that. Actually you know but he has also listened to movements of young Latinos on the ground and also one of the only two presidential candidates that is calling for a moratorium on deportations within the first hundred years. I want to take the take issue with what Linda said. Which is that. There you know to to folks angry people represent the extremes I I would agree with that with Bernie Sanders he's represent. He has his representing no question. The extreme of the Democratic Party I mean. He says he's socialist so he's angry angry that that. Donald Trump is not representing the extreme of the Republican Party. I mean he is. He is crafted a new Republican Party. But I wouldn't say it's an ultra conservative. Waste REASONS. Rick which is all because this guy's not for social security reform is not him? He's not for reducing. So if you WANNA look at Kuti extreme hard rate that's not all issues. He is representing the extreme divisive raisins. East of the district. I this is this is. This is with all due respect. This is Donald Trump's Republican Party. And it's going to be. Donald Trump Republican party for the for the next two decades. I mean he is completely transform transform conservatism in the United States of America. I don't think Sam Torrance Republican Party because I was the guy that was writing about blue collar conservatives in working with middle income people and that's Donald Trump has done so we're going to. We're going to keep this conversation going. We're going to squeeze in a quick break. We'll be right back at the making of history. Cnn presents a story of the world's most famous royal family the windsors inside the Royal Dynasty Sundays at ten on CNN. The wait is over coming to H. L. ED. All new episodes of forensic files follow the evidence and crack the case forensic files to Sundays at ten. Only on H. L. Ed. It's big threat. Not a tall one but a big one Michael Bloomberg. He argues that he is the safest stat to be Donald trump peanut safe. He's just rich. Senator Elizabeth Warren taking direct aim at Mayor Michael Bloomberg last night. Who by the way didn't even compete in? The Nevada caucuses including Warren. Taking a shot. At how Tall Bloomberg is. Let's discuss I. I thought that was kind of surprised by warn is not doing better. It's because of things like that. I mean I know pundits love it. I know it makes for great television but it turns people off it turns me off. I just I thought she came across this nasty during the debate. I think that kind of comment is beneath her It reeks of desperation. And I think that's the reason that she never really emerged. As the candidate people thought she was going to be the biggest question that Elizabeth Warren has to answer is. Where does she win? I mean she. Had these vaunted ground games in New Hampshire and Iowa in Nevada and she's placing fourth fifth highest. Finish was third and Iowa. She's not going to win in South Carolina so the question is where does she win and she treats Michael Bloomberg Michael Janada. She hits him in. Money falls out right and so she has. She has twenty million dollars that she's raised recently just because of these attacks so it will keep her in the race for a while. But I just don't even. She can't articulate. Where does she went so I wanNA ask about that? Because when Linda Talks About Elizabeth Warren seeming angry nasty and Rick said that about Bernie Sanders seeming angry. You don't deny that they seem angry. And you think it's okay because there is a reason people have for being angry. Yeah I think that there are a lot of Americans right now across the country who are suffering and that are really hurting. We have people that are rationing. Insulin and having people die because they can't they can't get excellent access to it in time. They're going across to the Canadian border to the Mexican border to go get their prescription drugs. You have sixty percent of Americans that if they got an eight hundred dollar emergency bill they would be out on the streets. That is the America that we're living in right now and so I think a lot of people are angry and they're really upset and I think the polls are showing that they don't see it as some angry person like an and. I think the only thing that we have to remember is that Elizabeth Warren has a lot of credibility also with the movement. She stood by people during Occupy Wall Street Progressive Movement. Yes not a lot of people. Did she built the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau from the ground up and has prioritized working families her for her entire career. And so Michael Bloomberg. I think the question that we have to ask ourselves as a Democratic Party is if we're supposed to be the one that represents working people is a billionaire athletes. I I have to sort of you know. Hit you back on that. You're going after wall. Street Destroying Wall Street also destroys the wealth of many average Americans. Who have their pensions in it? I mean I just think this idea that we're going to divide this country again. It's you know the idea that is going to be Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump in which we have these very very angry voices out there again that plays right into our enemies hands. It makes us look like a country that is so divided racially by class. And by other things that that we can't possibly lead the world and. I think that really harms America. I think people want to protect main street. Not Just Wall Street and I would say that the vision that we're seen play out here in in prison. Politics reflects the division. That's in this country. I mean all you have to do is look at at what we see on social media now. Is that clear reflection of the country. I don't know but if it's anywhere close this is a very divided country and and and Donald. Trump showed that within the republican ranks. The angry person who came out there and said you know we're tired of being pushed around and and and making the claim. Donald Trump makes the claim for working working Americans and contrary to what you just said which I'm not. I'm not validate. Any of the statue came out. You can go out there and make the claim lower income. Americans are actually doing better. Poverty rates are actually. I mean he can make a claim and he will that that his policies have actually help working Americans. Much more than anything. Bernie Bernie has to say but Bernie's Bernie's appeal but is same as trump's which is I'm GonNa fight for you and I'm going to do which is which is which is counter because we're not sure what Michael Bloomberg's message really is right. So Bloomberg is GonNa play this looming role on Tuesday and his only messages. That I'm going to make it rain from the heavens above right and we're going to just have an ad war and I can compete because I can say that. Donald Trump cheeks golf or he likes his stakes. Well done or eat some ketchup people. Those are billboards that he's not a bit. Who At least he had at least Bloomberg has a message that gives hope to American his ads. Talk about what he's been able to do in healthcare at talks about his performance doesn't give he doesn't. He doesn't give a lot of hope to a lot of black men in this country. I can tell you that Shannon black votes and and he got more support among the black community according to polling than a. Lotta people is. This is really this is really important. Michael Bloomberg is trying to do the same pitched of. I'M GONNA run America like a business. I'm going to run them. I'm going to be the billionaire savior so believe in me and that is what I think. Yeah same as Donald. That is what I think of Donald Trump except I think I think that the American people I think that the American people right now. We're you see Bernie Sanders rising nationally. His entire movement is not me? It is about prioritizing the working class of this country and Michael Bloomberg is interesting mission to that wonderful panel really really appreciate. It doesn't sound like you guys. Coalesced around candidate no endorsement from the panel Coming up so exactly. What lessons did president trump learn from his impeachment? That's next with a no-holds-barred election right around the corner. Take a look back at some of the most hard-fought presidential races throughout history. The original series race for the White House is back for a brand new season Sundays. Nine when if it seems longer than just eighteen days since president trump was acquitted in his impeachment trial that. May in part be because since that moment the president has packed in quite a bit of business with a remarkable focus on rewarding loyalists and punishing his perceived enemies almost immediately showing the door. Too Key impeachment. Witnesses ambassador Gordon Sunland and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vitamin plus vitamins. Twin brother. Who did not testify pushed out just a few days ago. Pentagon policy chief. John Rude who had privately urged the age of Ukraine to be released. Us Attorney Jesse loose her nomination for Treasury Department Job Yanked this past week according to an administration official. That's because lose office supervised the prosecution of convicted Felon and trump friend and confidante Roger Stone who sentencing. The president tried to influence a few days ago by attacking the prosecutors sentencing recommendation which the Justice Department. Then dial back prompting. All four prosecutors resigned from the case. It's a lot lot to take in in his latest stop in his vengeance. Tour on Friday came the resignation of acting director of National Intelligence. Admiral Joe McGuire. Maguire had under oath vouched for the integrity of the intelligence community whistleblower one of aguire subordinates. Also briefed the House intelligence committee about continued election interference by Russia and he and she asserted that the Russians have a preference for president trump. That's a charge. A national security adviser told me may have been a mischaracterization since right now intelligence is that the Russians have no actual preference though. They do think they can work with. President Trump McGuire was just replaced by US ambassador to Germany. Rick Grenell who has no intelligence expertise but has been a vicious pro-trump attack dog Grenell immediately forced out the number two intelligence official in the US government. Andrew Hallman also brought into the president's inner circle twenty nine year old former. Bodyman Jon mcentee. He was fired from the White House in two thousand eighteen because of security clearance issues now. He's the president's new personnel chief and on Thursday mcentee told cabinet officials to be on the lookout and their departments and agencies for appointees who are disloyal one former trump aide said to me that the president demands personal and unqualified loyalty to him. And him alone not to Constitution or rule of law or God or country. Now what might that mean going forward for our government? Well we might have just seen it. Senator Bernie. Sanders acknowledged on Friday that he had been briefed that Russians were interfering in the Democratic primaries and helping his campaign to disrupt at all and then national security adviser Robert. O'brien on a different channel misrepresented this intelligence stating that the Russians quote want Bernie Sanders to get elected president. That's no surprise. He honeymooned in Moscow. Now remember the intelligence per that national security official is that there is no preference right now. Not Bernie not trump unquote. The Russians are helping sanders as part of a campaign to sow discord in the Democratic primary. So I answered that national security official. Why did O'Brien say that? He said quote perhaps his first instinct. O'brien's are more political than that of a national security professional and that national security official noted that on Friday president trump had said this about Putin. Wouldn't you rather that Birdie who honeymoon in Moscow? The national security officials said to me quote by saying that. O'brien injected himself into the campaign by commenting on a potential rival. If he's willing to say that as national security adviser what does that mean for the next nine months. What is he doing when the camera's not on him? President trump was impeached but not convicted for abusing his office to get reelected Senate. Republicans said. They thought he'd learned his lesson but lesson. Does it look like the president learned? Thanks for spending your Sunday morning with us. 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"The national panel food afternoon. I'd like to introduce you to bury outfielder Justin Meek. It just didn't ask found the best in the country. He's a man of differing tastes and of many of the cold right big. Nfl News and he'd be noble. Loves BIG NEWS RIGHT ABOUT NOW ROB MANFRED? One More playoff team for each conference. Only one team gets a buy that would be effective immediately wants to CVA signs and seventeen game regular season three game. Preseason also play. That wouldn't be starting until maybe the year after the upcoming season should players sign. Maybe we'll get How fans like this or love or want more of it. I mean it calms whether you think the players and what you think the League is GonNa love this and whether they're trying to sneak in the seventeen games under the cover of well we've got more playoff teams which everybody loves get. Manfred to later doesn't get an episode off today. Facet Story Tony. There's the expanded playoff field which I think is unquestionably good for players financially. They'RE GONNA make a ton of money off of it. I don't think there's a lot of red flags are issues there. The seventeenth game is more complicated I have yet to see a definitive answer definitive research as it pertains to the long term effects on player health. Now I think we understand. Playing football is not going to be good for player health. But there's still a question of how bad is it going to be? There's also questioned. How much money are they gonNA make off of this yesterday? Are Adam? Schefter reported that if their share of revenue does go up to forty five forty eight point five percent. They could get as much as five billion dollars talking about the players over the course of the deal. That is a lot of money and a lot of players are very interested in getting that amount of money. My hope is because of the health concerns. They get that money and also some help with healthcare benefits as well. There's no there's money to be made here. Let me ask you this real quick me to calm talking to players every single day like you do. Does anybody want the seventeenth game as anybody told you? Yeah I'm game. Let's play. They all say no until they hear the money because it really is complicated. Jackie macmullan I bring you in here. Sean thanks I go to seven games. Because you've told me this before on this very show so please go ahead. Yes and I will tell you again and everyone. That's listening that it's a bad idea and you're talking about health concerns Meena. We don't need to see data to know. This is a bad idea. If you're talking about health concerns this is the most dangerous professional league in sports. Nothing has changed from that. We have all sorts of data that tells us about the long term problems of being an NFL football player. Hopefully they're taking the correct steps to help. Alleviate some of those issues Tony but this is the problem with the NFL. We know they have short careers. All these players think in the short term. I understand that they want the money. Now they're career. Is I think. Under three years average we need to save these players from their selves. If I'm in the players association I work for the NFL Players Association. I'm pulling out all that. Ct data again every day. All Day until players understand the dangers of this game and adding one more game is going in the wrong direction. They should be reducing Deva. Blog is so when you hear the League wants to increase playoff teams but then increase the length of the regular season. You think what I think that first of all seventeen games is a gateway drug to eighteen games. Which is what the owners have always wanted and Jackie's absolutely right not only. Is this a health concern but this is a way for the League to save money the NFL. Pa knows that more games will reduce the number of players who will be able to get a pension from the league so the League gets to save money by running those clocks on those bodies much faster and I don't know that anybody's been clamoring for more playoff games. I mean the reason a league wants to so they can get more more money obviously from the TV deal that they have right and not only that but they just deliver this at the start of last season. A check to the franchises for eight point. Seven billion dollars. That's a thirty three percent increase over what it was. It was five years ago so I don't know that the five billion more that the players could get in this. Cb being floated out there is a thirty three percent increase over what they had. Maybe five years ago. Somebody really needs to look at that. So I'm not really feeling not fueling the expanded playoff scenarios okay. Gutierrez compliment. Sandwiches isn't it. You've got the more playoff games. Yes please I think other outside of Kevin Blackstone I think ninety nine point nine percent of fans will say okay. I'll take the extra game. It's two teams playing an extra game over the course of the season not that damning and hey less preseason games yes please. We don't need all that stuff. Let's just throw an extra regular season game in there. Does it help decipher? Who's going to be the best seven teams? Is it really that much more of a sample size? Have we been saying? Hey after sixteen teams. We don't really know who the top six teams are. I think it's just obviously a money. Grab that situation so if you're talking about looking at that money it's exactly what Jackie was saying. The long term versus the short term. Is that one extra game and potentially another extra game if you happen to be that second at seventh playoff team or the number two seed who would normally get a by now. You're playing that first week and if you are that player is it worth those extra two games for you. Is it worth the extra game over the course of time just for that money dangling over there? It's not all going to you. That's gotta be spread out about everybody else. It's not five billion for one person so I would definitely think big picture is possible. Medications is more good for football. I think it's mixed here. The expanded playoff field. I agree with Izzy. People would eat that up and I don't think it'll dilute the quality of play. Actually if you look at the thirteenth seed over the last few years that would be in the playoffs now. They're usually better than several of the teams that make it in the the bad teams are usually the bad division winners right the seven and nine teams. I don't think the seventeenth game helps football because it increases the likelihood that you're going to see stars quarterback pass rushers getting injured before the postseason. Jackie love and Let. Let's not confuse with dropping a preseason game with adding a regular season game because the preseason games reason everybody hates him because all the star players often don't even play in them and especially when you get further along in the preseason so to me to compare those two games and say it's even know I'm calling champion one last thing you're talking about how it's kind of like a shell game. They're moving around pieces and extending the clock on players. Could it be rosters expanded as well when that mean more jobs for the Union? Well if they're going to they're going to expand rosters but you know the other thing you could do right is talk about the threshold for getting vested and maybe moving that down so that when when these careers get shorter guys still get the cash in for healthcare and everything else for much longer into their lives. Imagine all that data. You're thinking they're black. We'll move on all right and the Second Half Times Times writes. It was a tale of two halves here. The standings the Jackie which teams should feel the most urgency to turn things around in the second half and which team is most capable of doing it. I think the answer could be to both questions. The Philadelphia Seventy sixers. It's clear to me. They're the ones that have to make the move here. Tony their fifth in the east. Okay and they're nine and nineteen on the road. What happens you fit in the East? You don't hold to playoff series so that's just common to them by the way they're road record is the same as your New York. One that for all right. Same record as the sixers sixers around right to get to the front half of the home court advantage so it's just one more game in a series of how much homecourt advantage. Kevin Black US don't have a you know Jackie's absolutely correct and it's not only because of those reasons it's also because this cloud is hanging over the coaches head. We've been talking about whether or not he's the guy for this job. This is a cloud hanging over the best two players on that team Simmons and embiid and whether or not they can co exist and move this team along. This was a cloud is hanging over. Embiid said people are talking about because of the tweets out and Jimmy Butler suggesting that he may be getting out of they. WanNa leave Philly. So there's a whole lot going on in Philadelphia right now. That behooves them to get this. I Love I love when when behoove happens. That's absolutely true. Value is real guitars. I mean I love a good too but I do believe that. Yes I think in terms of the most disappointing team during this first half has been the Philadelphia Seventy sixers but you could argue that their record even though the home road splits are mystified. That record has their disappointing record. Has just as much to do with Joel. Embiid missing time and a lack of continuity on their roster if they were to stay healthy for remaining portion of this regular season schedule. I think you'll see that balance out some more. I'm very much intrigued by the Houston Rockets on the other side trying to create some urgency for themselves when they've sort of turned their their game plan a little bit excluding. Clint cappella trading him away. Going extreme small ball and if you look at the numbers just in February for Russell Westbrook and James Harden. Those two have been spectacular. So I don't know if they have the same urgency 'cause they can sort of run it back after this year whereas the sixers are looking at some pressure on the coaching staff. But I think the second half could possibly be pretty competitive tachometer. Con Your Vote for team with urgency. Turn around yeah I WANNA make it a clean sweep and pick the sixers as well and I think they can do it Tony they have done some interesting things. Moving Al Horford to the bench right before the break was really good. Move is a team. That's been obviously much better defense than offenses season. However when Simmons and Embiid have been on the floor without Horford they've actually had an offensive rate net rating of one hundred seventeen points per one hundred possessions. Now I WANNA see that over a larger sample size. I want to see if it sticks because if it does I think this team could be a threat down. The stretch seems that we know are threats. There at the top of the standings. The Bucks and the Lakers. How much trust you have. They'll finish this at the top of the standings. How much trust you have in Milwaukee and the Los Angeles Lakers Jackie? Well I'm so bullish on the box and I don't understand why others aren't and I think what you hear from. Gm says well if the game slows down and it's a close game in the final two minutes. Can they win it in the half court? I think the answer is yes because I think people overlook how good Chris Middleton is in those situation. The bucks are on a historic pace right now and you realize you. WanNa talk about being healthy and ready for the playoffs. They don't have player in minutes. Played in the top. Seventy five one thousand mainly plays thirty one minutes and I think Chris Middleton averages under twenty nine minutes so that's something that the other Israel you want to add to this. Yeah just look at the last two games. They've only lost the bucks. Have two games since Christmas. With Janas on the floor the Spurs and the nuggets. They shot in one thousand nine hundred or hit nineteen threes and twenty two respectively and kept Jaanus under. I think it was forty percent shooting. Try to do that over. The course of a seven game series. It's going to be really difficult. You're going to have to shoot the lights out how the sixties can't do it. Maybe the heat maybe the Celtics and the sixers don't have that the only thing I'll add is that next Tuesday. You might be talking about something different or next Wednesday after the raptors host the bucks go and see if they can pull out a win there and all of a sudden. We're talking about wait a second. Do they have the formula? Beat the bucks on the question that we would have has last. Nobody would've answered you. Trust the raptors. All and they wanted all last year twice a tale of two had. How many of us at home with our times. Or whatever else. You Ida fisher-price microphones always attend to. We'll be back by yourself. How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's my Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid worked his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news and information business from scratch mayor of diverse progressive city. Mike Bloomberg rebuilt after nine eleven. Creating nearly five hundred thousand jobs improving health care and public schools. Now he's running for president and Mike's the changing from chaos to steady leadership from lies to someone who believes in facts and data from divisiveness to someone who builds teams nurtures good ideas and hold himself accountable for results. Mike Bloomberg knows how to lead to build to deliver to do. He'll win and unite this country. Mike will get things done. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate for president. And I approve this message because we need to deliver on the promise of the American Dream. Paid for by Mike Bloomberg Twenty twenty. Welcome back around the war and coming to you from the Heineken River deck. Here's Seventeen competing teams in the ACC thing about coach k. And the handshake line after a loss. So we'll show you right here but that's not what we're talking about. Nc state eighty eight Duke Sixty six. It's not march but it's old post March meaning how concerning losses this for do deeply concerned. I think especially because a lot of the things seem to have fixed over the last month cropped up again the problems the bad free throw shooting. They went ten for twenty two bad outside shooting. Turnovers missed layups. There's still a good team but toni. All it takes is one bad game in March. And they're not consistency. Yeah I mean coach. K. Doesn't lose to unranked teams like this but if you sort of project into what their tournament bracket is going to be like. I mean I saw a tweet that said okay. Maybe this has them down in the number two seed at MSG against San Diego State who has to fly all the way across the country. It really is just a matter of where their bracket if not so much. About what this regulars? He's all that that was mark. Tightest tweet and that's the perception that do gets a bonus from the selection committee but this is now a four loss team. Kaby how do you I mean is right? I mean this is not a very good duke team but I think you have to look on the other side of the court here because NC state just lost two loss at Boston College. They WANNA bubble. They're playing at home. They had to get a win and they managed somehow do it against dupe. Twenty two points. That's an eye opener but I'm not surprised at. Nc State won that game. Duke Sean Eighteen percent from the three point line. That's the thing about basketball today if you shoo poorly from the three point line guess what in the NBA and in college. That's just how this rolls as for. There are very young team Tony. This might be a good thing because Dow can coach k. Can Look what happens when you take things I believe that with fresh three freshman. I you know I try to do that. All the time. When you loo showdown Jack and it doesn't seem to. You'd never see the take that as a good thing. We'll move on. Fire sell to Astros outfielder. Josh rettig quote at some point you have to move on and not give a bleep. We're going to go out there and win and shut everybody up. And then Lance mccullers pitcher quote the teams talking trash. You'RE GONNA have to play us. Except for the guys who are popping off the coast and quotes and he's talking about the dodgers there Israel. You buy what you sell failing. This is just a distraction. Just trying to move along the conversation here if they do go out and win a bunch of Games. Maybe even a win win a world series this year. Everybody's GONNA say. Hey you still cheated in two thousand seventeen possibly beyond that so you don't think they can take anything away from going out there and winning it all this year playing. Well I think they can but don't talk about it. Now wait until after you possibly because they trash or trash cans. I'm not sure but look what you've got to say. I mean this is not going to get any easier as as training rolls along as a season opened. That's all that they can do is go out and try to prove everyone wrong. I don't know if they'll be able to do it but that's what they gotta try so I disagree with you. I don't think they're saying what they have to say. If I were them I would just say look. We've apologized removing on. You don't have to start talking back and saying yeah wait till we goes except for the guys that did play. Just be quiet and win. We're tired of hearing about. I'M NOT TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT A and by the way. Here's why they're doing it because they're good. Well let's projections have them as the second best team in the American behind the Yankees. That's why they feel confident saying to pull. Those projections have been created in some ways by their record. The last couple of years that record has been thrown into question about the last couple of years. Here's yet another idea for punishment that has not been put forward by Major League Baseball but suggestion. This is buster only buster. He wrote this up today even gave rob Manfred entire scripted. Say I've had more time to process players. More action is warranted for cheating. Yada Yada Yada. I hereby censure the Astros designation to be forever noted in baseball's official record book having. You're shaking your head no you don't buy the idea of public censure here. What is a censure? We have people talking about taking reprisals out during the game. And you're talking about a censure that doesn't fly at all stop. Jackie nothing censure. Nothing gained. How do you feel about this? Oh very clever. I wish I thought of that. That would get some points. You know what I don't I'm not gonNA to Pooh Pooh this as much as Kevin. Because as you know. I've been conflicted about whether they should take away the title and that piece of metal that they were handed last year. So I'm GONNA give buster thumbs up here comes out by your idea censure. Or if you won't ask the risk on the season yeah. I both think it's not enough but I don't know what else they could have done. I surely wished they could've punched the players but increasingly it seems to me legally it would not have been possible man. I was in a really difficult place so sure. Start with the center. I mean essentially all this does is tell people you know decades down the road. Hey this is how serious this was. And this is the level at which we're going to take it but what it does currently what it does for the future what it does for the Astros players. Now I don't think it does well Israel Kevin Blackstone I. I WANNA say incredible job on today's program but just not good enough. You're going to be witnessing a showdown here between media cards and Jackie macmullan to enter but only one will leak. Jackie macmullan good lucky show. Chicago cubs contemplating batting Kris Bryant. Leadoff manager. David Ross. Basically saying you put your best hitter. I CONCUR. I concur with the decision. Right the cubs were the worst in baseball at leadoff last year. And I think they've struggled with since Dexter Fowler left Kris Bryant Smart Hitter. He's not big. Rbi Get I guy anymore. It makes sense totally makes sense because it only that. He's a good runner if they do what they're talking about and putting. Anthony Rizzo that's Bryant. Rizzo off the the best thing about. This is David Ross. Talked about it so much like he made it feel like they were part of it. Great new thing for a new manager. Guys will split. The point will move on showdown to better play. Virginia Tech Radford behind the backward over the backboard shot from behind the backward or Seton Hall. Sandro Mahmoud Cushman's Lali buzzer beater that beat the Buzzer and beat Butler Jackie. So of course. The first play is more difficult. But you and I are sentimentalists that play at the Buzzer was the first time his father who came all the way from Georgia not the Georgia to see his son. Make that shot. Are you kidding me? What's better than not what I think? The other play has spent a mental value as well because tirees rapper. Who was totally unrelated. Prospect has been balling. He's a team leader in rebounds averaging visit points per game he's been great and it was an office wrote above it. Well what a wealth of Information Radford and wearing the world is Jackie macmullan Carmen Sandiego and the Mahmood family at the point. Where move on? So three the headshot progression of cells. Very Justin beacons. We showed it to you earlier. This is freshman year to senior year. Great it and what's Justin's Best Year? I mean come on Tony. Monaco and I choose to believe he's paying homage to Mr Peanut with no no. No I'd rather instead of being Mr Peanut be junior. B Rollie fingers. I just love this guy sense of humour not Mr Peanut Raleigh object. You WanNa tell us what you said when you sat down and you saw his photo you think he's to joking around with the monocle. That's what you said. Do you think he's you're out with the Gods. Take the facetime in a while so Can you clip from cowboys. Legends and miss on the Left coast show. Is that circulating suggests that quarterback Dak Prescott. She's taking soups. Count to play for the team ticket. This contract this is ridiculous for a couple of reasons. One Prescott spin the biggest bargain in football over the last four years. And also the whole doubt. God okay all right exactly. Did you feel good after getting lost? Was this one of these motivating losses. I think you should give it didn't sell.

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Taking Responsibility

First Take

32:54 min | 11 months ago

Taking Responsibility

"Hey I'm only Karen rose and you're listening to the first take podcast. It all comes down to the Super Bowl fifty four who's going to be hosting the trophy and spraying the champagne. When it's all said and done on will be the chiefs or the niners who season will end on a winning note? Will I know yours. Can this is your last chance to play fantasy football till next season with draftkings the official daily fantasy partner of the NFL draft you're single game showdown lineup and feel the sweat like never before. It's simple just draft draft six players from Super Bowl fifty four stay under the salary cap and see how your team stacks up against the competition plus new users sign up today on draftkings using code take will receive a free shot at one million dollars. Nothing adds to the sweat watching a game quite like having a free shot at a million dollar payday get get in on the Super Bowl fifty four action. Download the draft kings APP now and enter code take during sign up for a limited time. All new users will get a free shot at one million dollars with your first deposit. That's code take and get a free shot at one million dollars with your first deposit. Only at draftkings minimum five dollar deposit required eligibility restrictions. Apply apply see draftkings dot com for details. The Cleveland Browns have hired. The Eagles. Andrew Berry has their executive VP and GM replacing. John Dorsey Eighty Berry who will become the youngest in the NFL. At thirty two years old returns to Cleveland after working for the organization from two thousand sixteen to two thousand eighteen. The browns sounds also hired thirty-seven-year-old Kevin Stefanski as their head coach earlier. This offseason so Max with higher are the browns any closer or are they farther away away from being super bowl. Champions Day closer they hired brains and by the way I let me state the obvious. I don't know if it's the lead but it's the obvious we have been talking talking a lot on the show Steven A.. You've been lamenting the scarcity of African American head coaches and general managers. Here's a general general manager and head of Football Operations African American Harvard graduate. My the way this is. This is a good higher. I believe first of all he he was involved in building up. The browns war-chest the reason. The Brown's got these star players. All the sudden is because Andrew Berry and de Pedestrian. These guys built updraft picks in this huge stash of this huge cache of resources. And then you bring in someone else to just pull the trigger John Dorsey all. I'm going to get this this guy. This guy this guy like a kid in a candy store shiny new toys. Same thing happened with Sam. hinkie in Hinky in Philadelphia the process that Stephen elements the the brains. Come in and build up all this potential energy you roll the rock up the hill. And then the kinetic energy is when you actually push it down I and it has that energy so here was Andrew Berry one of the people who rolled up the hill for the browns. And then Dorsey comes in. He's a football guy and he pushes it down this. This is the team. You got the reason. The reason Colangelo. And now Elton brand. Or Dorsey I look so good when they walk into. That situation is because they have so many resources. I almost can't look bad if they start pulling the trigger on deals we're going to acquire talent but what is it the right talent is it. The right fit today. Optimize the resources so that little phase is over. It didn't work now. They're bringing back into Harvard educated guy that helped build it up in the first place. That's a good sign. Well first of all when I'm of the mindset that they're further away not close but it's not because they're Andrew Berry first of all congratulations to this brother. I've been On this bandwagon for a long time MACs just articulated of the pause. The scarcity of African American coaches one problem but The the lack of African American executives goes a long way. I'm not sure if this is true if he were in Georgia that day but member Wind Colin Cabinet was scheduled. Did you to have that workout with the NFL. And I talked about how there were African Americans in the pipeline the become executives that showed up in attendance making my point that there were people there that were thoroughly interested in giving him an opportunity. I believe Andrew Berry was one of them but I'm not sure here's the reality of the situation. I'm very very happy for him. I wish him nothing but the Best Jimenez Defense he are incredibly young and bright. The problem is in order to clean up the mess that was made. They're going to have to make changes in the process of making those changes. They'll probably take a step back before taking two steps forward so in that regard you gotTa Remember Hassle Him. No owner took over twenty twelve. This is his fifth. GM GM coach combination since two thousand thousand twelve. Yeah I mean that's a I mean you don't see you've seen the steelers three coaches this sixty s this man is at a new coach and GM five five times in seven years. I don't know what the L. Adam is doing. But in this particular instance I love the high of and very personally will be rooting for this brother Stew to fans even though his last time we wasn't as most shining moment in that playoff game against San Francisco because he seems so predictable coordinator he wasn't he had had a year and give it to them. Let's see what happens. How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's Mike Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid worked his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news and information business from Scratch Mayor Reverse Progressive City Might Bloomberg rebuilt after nine eleven. Creating nearly five hundred thousand jobs improving healthcare and public schools. Now he's is running for president. And Mike's the changing from chaos to steady leadership from lies to someone who believes in facts and data from divisiveness to someone. Someone who builds teams nurtures good ideas and hold himself accountable for results. Mike Bloomberg knows how to lead to build to deliver to do. He'll win in this country. Mike will get things done. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate for president. And I approve this message because we need to deliver on the promise of the the American Dream Paid for by Mike Bloomberg Twenty Twenty Waltham back to I take we are coming to you. Live from above the chase river deck at pier seventeen. I met Kobe at the very end of his career. I interviewed him during his final season. The farewell tour but I was able to develop a relationship with him after retirement retirement because of his genuine investment in women's basketball one time I saw coby and his daughter sitting courtside when Oregon women's basketball came to play USA IN LA and see. Kobe joke wouldn't you rather see your daughter play. Coast close to home at my Alma Mater Stanford instead of across the country at Uconn but her heart was set on Gino squad. gee-gee was a student of the game like her dad. A hardworking rapidly improving hooper. Who had come to the Oregon? USC game to see the Best Player in college basketball play. SABRINA UNESCO I want to be I asked. Would you join me for an interview during our broadcast and he graciously did he said I got you. It was in that interview that Kobe shared a message. About fulfilling one's potential. That will hold onto forever. Because he wanted us to know that Mama mentality transcends gender it transcends craft job trade all of that Mama mentality is for every every single one of us he said it's all about focus. I don't care who you are where you're from doesn't matter it's having a focus and having a purpose you wake up every single day to get better today than you were yesterday and it doesn't matter what you are basketball. All player hockey player golf player painter writer. It doesn't matter you try to reach your full potential by getting better every single day and that half the quest. Kobe was part of our family the USA basketball family and he helped create the culture that we were able to do it at eleven year period and he was very close to my family You know we shared two loves love of the game and and we both have daughters is sounds crazy but koby spoke this. He spoke this Isa. Just say all the time I WANNA die young and I thought he was Cra- he's he say I wanna Die Young. I WANNA be bored. Allies is it. You know I wanNA have my career be better than Michael Jordan and I WANNA die young and I just thought he was just so crazy for saying that and when I got the news yesterday I had a dance with my daughter yesterday at my wife's event and they came and told me the news and I just couldn't believe just like just like everybody everybody else is. I'm devastated. Lebron James made his first public comments last night on instagram heartbroken and devastated my brother man. I love you big Bro. My heart goes to Vanessa and the kids. I promise you I'll continue in your legacy man. You mean so much to us all here especially LAKER nation. And it's my responsibility to put this on my back back and keep it going we now welcome in ESPN NBA analyst. Tim Legler are you. Good off man who's been devastating considering the Times uh-huh and we'll continue the conversation. I mean Lebron fully taking responsibility in his post. A what do you think about that. I don't mind I think it's entirely appropriate. But it's not really because Lebron James is purple and gold and playing for the Los Angeles Lakers is because how he conducts himself in the pursuit of excellence. That's where I think it's appropriate. You know we'll sit up here and I'll tell you in the past. Lebron was scared to go to the lane because he didn't want to end up going to the free throw alive while talk about a fadeaway jump shot that he took instead of going to the whole and bringing up a free throw or something along those lines but what you have never nor would you ever hear me say about Lebron. James is that Lebron James has ever cheated the game of basketball. He always goes about the business of trying to keep himself himself in peak condition to be ready to answer the call understanding he's a marquee and has responsibility. His number one job is to who show up the best ability is availability and he's always available and so when you look at it from that perspective you'd think about what made Kobe so great would made. MJ So great guys like that. The number one thing to me I pointed to wasn't their ability. It was the fact that they always showed up. I love watching an interview of from a few months ago where Kobe Bryant was being used on stage talking to somebody and he recounted the story of Vince. Carter was the rage. He was in Toronto when he was taken the League by storm and he was the new aerial assault and all of that stuff and Kobe. Brian was talking about how his back was killing him. And he was enduring these back spasms and then the game against Toronto was coming up any told the trainer. I'll have back spasms today. I'm going to show up today because who in the hell would not have wanted to see Kobe. Going up against Vince Carter Order. You knew that that was the marquee year. It's a team sport and it was the raptors against the Lakers. And all of this other stuff but you wanted to see Kobe against Vince Carter. That's what basketball brings the individual matchups in the throes of a game of that competition. You know with the collective elective agenda ultimately be paramount but that individual warfare taking place just to Kinda thing you reflect upon and all I'm saying is is that when you think about Lebron and his statement and what he said understand over a million dollars how. He spends on his health every year. How his fitness center can rival? Oh you know. La Fitness or something like that in his own house and all of these things you hear about him. The dude is dedicated and he's dedicated to be an excellent and never ever cheating the game. If you want to honor the Mamba Mentality in terms of going out there and competing. The Bra will do that for you and I can appreciate appreciate him. Coming with. That perspective. Couldn't possibly agree more. I think when I think of Kobe Bryant and and this is like the ultimate tribute you can give an athlete I think about an NBA. The game generally takes about two and a half hours and the way. I always describe a guy like Kobe. Bryant very few guys will say about this historically it was the greatest return guaranteed return on the investment. Take time was watching guy like Kobe. Bryant play I knew when I sat down to watch Kobe Bryant. What I was about to see now doesn't mean he was gonNA play great every night he was going to have off off shooting nights and turn the ball over and all human things? But I guarantee you. I knew what I was about to watch. You weren't going to see a guy lay on screen lazily. Go under against the guy that could score jog back in transition and watch some guy that he considered a rival appear go get a layup or dunk and transition. You're going to see those things you're GonNa see a guy completely dedicated and committed to what he was about to do and took that so seriously. And I think you're right Stephen. They like Lebron to honor him by going and wearing the leg. Performer winning title. Yeah that'd be a great way to honor Kobe. Because he did that. And that's how we view Kobe in our minds picture those moments but even greater than that it would be to honor in that way the way we're talking about now you know that commitment to the next forty eight minutes. This is what you're going to see because because that's the first thing we all generate in our minds when you think about a guy like Kobe Ryan and I think that's really well Lebron's talking about their two things one. There is the game of Basketball Michael Jordan like and th- and there's a reason that other within the bigs when you got past Larry Magic it was Jordan coby Lebron no one else is in that category apologies to guys like James Harden were putting great numbers and everything because the game has changed and you can exploit wait the rules. A little differently and Kobe was the last of the great kind of Solo Artists Right. Who could do that? Who who could score isolation and took a lot of mid Rangers but I? That's that's one of those things where the metrics have to catch up to what actually happened to capture the value better. None of these guys to Kobe's it went from Jordan to Kobe to Lebron. The mantle passed and so in that respect Lebron has that responsibility. He's already covered that he's always represented betsy like great. He's a great ambassador for the sport. And who can say something bad about Lebron in that respect. Then there's another thing. It's a Lakers thing. That's an this Lakers Lakers thing. It's funny because Michael Young. Who was a great baseball player? In another era would have been in the hall of fame by the way but Michael Young texted let me. He's in La Lakers fan and about this just earlier today. The responsibility that Lebron now has as a laker because because that Kobe was a life long laker right. When you think about that team the number one brand by foreign the history of basketball apology the celtics most of their championships championships came before the common era? You know like before the modern basketball game this the Lakers are just blowing it ten championships. Next highest is six right since since the modern era of basketball wilt chamberlain arguably the greatest ever at that time. They didn't care it in. La Until you WANNA chat. He would not like. We'll be a Lakers legend. If he didn't win a championship shack wound up. Winning with the heat and was a dominant force. You know with Orlando but it's the Lakers championships. Which is why he's in the rafters? Right take any great player. WHO Even Kareem? Who is a champion with Milwaukee? The reason he's a Lakers legend is he won five with the Lakers. Kobe magic a little different they were born into the NBA. Life began in the Lakers family and by the way also ended there the Lakers family. It's a little different than each won five championships Lebron's not a leak legend if he doesn't deliver a championship and he came to L. A.. Knowing that and and and so there's a second part to the mantle he's inherited from Kobe Bryant. Not only as the ambassador of the sport. And the you know Jordan to Kobe. Lebron passing the baton but as the next great laker that also exists very true. I think the other thing I think about the Kobe Bryant Eh. You think that global reaction to this I mean how how many athletes historically can really do it. Kobe generating right now in his passing. I think the reason for that is well. Kobe represents to me and I. I saw Kobe. Fifteen in a pickup game with NBA players. That I was participating. And he's a high school player so so think about how yourself to do that so I think for me the reason that people are so emotionally overwhelmed by this. Kobe represented what every repurchasing walking this earth wants to aspire to which is to be sure of yourself in anything that you do right. That's what Kobe represents. And so that's what you all look up to admire so much. Because he look he wasn't always gonNA come through. He failed human beings fail. Athletes failed. You know what the next morning woke up. He was just assure it was the day before. And that to me is why. So many people idolize this guy because it's hard for any of us to comprehend and athletes. It's a very confident people. But to be that sure and that certain of the outcome and where your path is GonNa take you is so unique so rare and I think that's why so many people drawn so you know. Just you know speaking personally in this regard. I don't disagree with anything that you just said. I think that you know somebody that all all of us have lost loved ones. We know life has been like for me over the last two and a half years loser. Both my parents and the thing that resonates with me is that When Diz a difference between it being you're on and feeling like the Lord is just called you and feeling unlike life has been taken away we you forty one years of age? You're trilingual minimally Italian Spanish English. I mean I think he was working on Mandarin German for crying out loud to be as brilliant as he is to be as spectacular and a successful zestful and as rich as he was and the still have a life ahead of you that literally would outnumber bird the life you had beforehand because remember basketball was you know it was twenty year career in the NBA. Talking about a life of me. Minimally you you know. I assume of course because tomorrow's not guaranteed but the things that Kobe was doing now. WHO's to say? He could not have done that for the next thirty years. And so when you look at it from NAP perspective and it's taken away from you. It's riveting in and of itself an incredibly painful but then the sorrow elevates exponentially initially when you consider the fact that is thirteen yield was taken with him. It was the joy of his life not to mention the fact that she had star written all over her. According to Kobe he goes on Jimmy Kimmel and he's sitting there talking about how people will come up to him and say you you gotTa have a son you gotta have a son to carry on your legacy and it was the daughter who in the and was like now I got this right and then you listen to Tracy McGrady talk about how she had a fall away and you saw him at the Games taking into the game saint courtside literally teaching her the game of basketball you knew she was going to Yukon because Kobe told me she's going to Yukon Geno Auriemma. He's sitting on a bench. Cry Wanted a great great champions as a coach. We've seen gene and in sports. This dude is crying on the bench because you know. He got to know Kobe because Kobe was bringing her to his games and literally getting lessons that sense from Gina or vice rather from Gino. Rem Because he was coaching his late his girls even all of those things. It's like you just sit up Dan you just say if he's you you literally. You literally walked away. You went home. I know me hugging my daughters. I know Max I know you but what I'm saying is you literally walked out. I walked out of the studio yesterday. Understanding that yeah we all know tomorrow not guarantee but I literally literally walked out. They can this could be for me. I'm driving down the turnpike arm driving around the country flying around we going on a flight tonight to Miami Cami and you you he walked. He left his family to go to a basketball game. That was less than thirty thirty minutes away and never came by the way. This is a bad time for anything bad happen to anyone to because no one will remember that because the world is thinking about Kobe Bryant right right now like this is I wanted to say something about that about about the Mamba Mentality. In the way he and his daughter Jonah also also kind of embodied it. It's interesting to me because my steven and I both lost brothers My brother Sam used to say when love like is love and love is responsibility a lot of times people say something I like something. They really mean they love it and when they say they love something they mean. They're responsible for it. They responsible supposed to it. And it's interesting. What Kobe's really saying their levels to it? It's I you have to find your passion so he's talks about how Jonathan Basketball and he was just fortunate that he's like the world's expert in basketball and his daughter wants play basketball but he found storytelling after basketball. That's just the first step though I find your passion so I say things like Kobe was an example of the best player in the gym. Who worked like he was the worst player in the gym? But it's not that he was scared of anything it's that he had such a passion for it that he understood that love is really responsibility so the next step is to be responsible to it is to work even when you don't feel like working if you have a passion for it if you love it you're responsible to it work work as though you're the worst player in the gym and that's why and you saw it in his daughter too and when he talks about like Mamba mentality transcending sending things and stuff I think that is the that is the the lesson for from it that you find your passion and then you're responsible to colby we'll be was certainly that is Joe Montana told. NFL DOT COM. Tom Brady should try to stay with New England next season if if he can warning the PATS QB against leaving for a new team pointing out. The transition of moving can make an impact on a player. If Brady where where to leave New England. You would join Montana Peyton manning and Joe Name on the list of notable quarterbacks to switch teams later in their careers. We now welcome in Victor Cruz. Hello Victor how're you doing. Thank you for joining us more. Pleasure thanks for having me. Well I'll start with you Max. Do you think let's say Brady does joining the team. And it's a losing team. Would it affect. Brady's legacy sure not in any drastic way but of course all of it is little pieces of evidence one way or another either that either adds to your legacy or or punch his whole not there's no punching a hole in Brady's legacy but when compared to other all time greats or those who are sure where to come either ads diminishes that legacy versus someone else's and by the way if anyone thinks well you're making too much of the comparison and why can't you just I appreciate the athletes. Sports is about establishing a hierarchy. That's why you play a game like on one level you play to have fun but at this level that I'm discussing it is to find find out who was better. That's why they're gonNA play a super. WHO's better team? Not You know. You're you're entertained by it but who is better. And we have these debates about who's the goat were establishing the hierarchy mark. Tom Brady's number one now and I agree. He's the goat. I said that before. He won his fifth and sixth. But it's not like there's no competition like Joe Montana. One four was four and in the Super Bowl had thirteen touchdowns two zero interceptions and when he went to Kansas City got him to the AFC championship game. If Tom Brady for example go somewhere and they're terrible. Then you say well wait a minute. How much of that is bellichik? Maybe more than we think they'll look. He's at the age. Like when Jordan went to wizards it doesn't really hurt him. I get it. It doesn't speak to his prime but because Brady's peak is not why we put them number one the way Jordan's was because it's a lifetime lifetime achievement award type thing then a bad ending could affect him differently than say someone like George. Well thank you for enunciating my point with the end there when you talk about how is now going to really affect his legacy because not Max Kellerman. And here's the reason. Why are you ready for this one? Max Are you ready for this. I'm ready because he's forty. Eight h actually works in his favor. This cliff and we're barracks because here's the deal reviews. Here's the deal if he was thirty four years of age. And let's let's say in his career or Kinda faded just a touch and then he went to a team and they were losing their like you man but the reality of the situation attention is is that that's not the case. He's forty two years of age and the twilight years have arrived basically. So nobody's going to judge him. We're looking at at the New England Patriots and saying you know he's twenty two years to get us about you know it's forty two years of age why you ask him to do all of this why you gave him. Julian adamant as a number one option is is as white. You're secondly receiver that what you're doing right now when you're you're looking at the New England patriots because you're seeing excuse me forget what you see or even what you think. He's is capable of by virtual father. Tom Him be a forty two years of age. What the hell are you doing bill? Belichick asking him to do all of this help the brother out. That's that's what you're doing if he's younger and you put more on his shoulders he embraces it but he's losing. He's held accountable but because he's forty two because he's already a six time champion and because he's already proven what he could do it big moments or what have you. You're able to scale it back. Look at him and say you know something. This ain't really on him so to me as concerns. Ain't this ain't really brady anymore. This is what you do already Chad's it doesn't take away he's already transcended to gain guys and I think nothing he does. Now from this point is going to tarnish that I feel like he was the best to do after the fourth one and some argue even after the third third Super Bowl but after that fourth one to me was like okay. He's charting and territory that we haven't seen before and then to get a fifth in a six it was like hold up okay. We got to put him in a different category or he goes up on a different type of Mount Rushmore when it comes to the football thing and not just football in general but then it comes to the quarterback thing which is such a highly elevated a position and in a position that so poke and prod and looked at and statistics. And look at that that position. So you know innately and we'd look at it and we and we just think about it so when when you look at Tom Brady and you look at what he's accomplished as far anything he does now if it's positive if it's negative it's if it's another year for his family to see him play football this just icing on the cake. I don't know after four. I also put them number one because he was playing in more of a passing era and I felt felt especially in the second half of his career when because early on it was always you know the the Montana Marino debate. Well one is better but the others on a better team Marino. Everyone thought was was more talented. Montana was on a better team and the same thing with Tom. Brady and Peyton Manning. The vast majority of people thought it was better than Tom Brady but brady was more clutch touching on a better team with a better coach but then Brady did something about halfway through. He started putting a Payton numbers. So now the dude just about so now. The Dude who's more clutch on a better thirteen also putting up numbers that basically matched the guy's supposed to be more talented. So I agree with you. Victor but just keep in mind. Joe Montana there is a standard Enderle Brady at the best was four and oh in the super bowl. Never lost thirteen touchdowns zero interceptions. He was perfect and then when he went to Kansas City the first year by the way he didn't run. Steve Young out of town they could the franchise was less. Health left healthy and in good hands so they won another super. voles efforts go anywhere to Kansas City and got him to the championship game. So it's not so brady has surpassed the kind of lifetime maybe even peak standard that Montana asset but not only is there Montana's still to compete with if you do very poorly if you go somewhere else but there's the next guy who's competing. He's we went to nine of them. He went to ninety lost three but he had the gave his team the opportunity to win the big game on the largest stage nine times ultimately ultimately like. That's just it's other worldly when it comes to this position especially when you're in those locker rooms like I wasn't just being there and understanding what it takes to win and what what things have to go right in injuries and different things that have to take place in order for you to get there let alone win six times and get their nine whatever he does. Now it's it. It doesn't matter the legacies already printed. I agree that the age I call it the gravy years because whatever you do good accrues to your greatness in whatever bad happens this year old. It doesn't matter. I will say that happens for a lot of athletes. I will say that in this case because more bellichik or Brady if Brady goes somewhere else is awful it. And wherever he goes if he doesn't have the supporting cast what if he does not not gonNA matter he can stay. He would if he was in Tennessee or New England or any other team. It was still the same. It's just a different Jersey right. But what if he does get the help then he if he can play at a high level and get his team to the playoffs. And and what if you're wrong then we'll see we shall see all right. Victor thank you so much for joining us. No problem album we've talked also long reflecting and storytelling retelling and sharing about the legacy of Kobe. Bryant's guys in our final minute or so here any final thoughts or reflections on looking at that picture of him with John I I have three daughters at a certain age. It's hard to get your daughter to act that way in public even when you could have an affectionate relationship. You're you're hugging and kissing hanging out but in public especially for a teenage daughter. Twelve thirteen years old to be that happy to have her dad's arm around her like that. That's such a special relationship and I grieve for especially Vanessa and the and the three other kids have two daughters. The greatest achievement of my life is becoming coming father and It's incredibly sad to see Jonah in those photos video of her at the game court cyber Kobe because it just resonates with you are devastating loss. It is but on a personal level is Kobe. He's not just somebody covered. He was my friend and he was my brother. And I'm GonNa Miss Him. I miss him already. I'm GonNa miss him a lot and there's a lot of people in the NBA Community that a new him even more intimately than I did and now Maha goes out to them to 'cause we're all hurt right now recipes. Kobe Bryant gee-gee and all those lost in that helicopter crash.

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Am I say laying around. I screwed it up immediately. Try that again. It's actually he playing around with page rene is it. It's her you're not. You're not even getting like second. Bill is like with special guest cohost. ooh Let's call it. What guys it's okay? Let's try this again. Welcome back to the podcast on the wellesz cast. Today we have major nee and Josh Tampa pages. The host of playing around Josh's just king here page Josh. How are you guys? We're good thanks for having us today. Congratulations on getting the PODCAST Just real quick so people understand. What is the idea of the shell? Obviously we were talking about golf lifestyle really really anything. We want to talk about so figuring that out as we go and I'm really excited about. I've never done anything like this before. I played freshman golf and then then I kind of blew up on instagram. And so people know me from either playing or just seeing pictures and so now I can actually talk and I think they're going to be surprised by that. They have a voice. She has a people and Josh. How did you get kind of brought into the fold? Well I'm old enough to be pages dad so I I show the I'm the Golfer I'm the I'm the weekend Golfer Guy Target Audience. But also I'm here to take care of page. Make sure Oh you know. No one messes with her. I've done I've on TV for twenty five years. And I'm just the Journeyman Kinda guy the guy that you say I I seen you somewhere before. So I and I got the voice I got the gravel so so we offset and we offset and I'm just making sure you know she's I'm taking care of her all right Okay so I don't know if anyone told you kinda like the premise of the show. But I'm just very interested in how people get to become really well known own like it's all well and good that people see you on TV or you know you've got millions of followers on instagram. But like what's the blueprint like getting their Josh. You've had multiple will television shows. You hosted you. I saw like did stints on like will and grace and stuff like that and page. You've got over two million followers on instagram. which is really hard to do? You've got double the amount of instagram followers. That I do and I've been on. Seventeen thousand is in television so I wanNA know like how did you get to this point. Ladies first page. Where'd you come from so I popped out of my hi mom now? We'll start. It was a cold night Denver. Colorado China lit on now No so I was a competitive gymnast for pretty much. Most of my life ended up getting injured really bad a couple times and I always wanted to be a professional athlete. I come from a very athletic family. Now it's something that we really valued. My mom was a fresh ballet dancer Sir. My sister ran track in a at Stanford also a black belt in Taekwondo and my dad played football my aunt's fresh times times player. So just kind of like something that we just. You'RE GONNA be an athlete like you had no choice. And so after I fractured my kneecap a couple times is in gymnastics. And I didn't WANNA do anymore. It was really tough. I was like ten years old and the gym eight hours day. It was a grind and home schooled cooled. And so my parents like we're GONNA have to quit like it's not good for you. It's not good for your body It's not fun anymore. So what do you want to do. Is We sat down. We said what's would I be good at and tennis was the first one that popped up. My aunt came out. She put me through boot camp for a week and I said I'm never doing this again. I don't want to run anymore more. I don't WanNa do this. I just over it especially after gymnastics my dad. I don't come from a big family but my dad. He loves golf and he's like. Hey let's so let's take you out. Well we'll try it. He tried with my older sister. I and she hated it so he was really disappointed. And so he's like more shot at this and so he took me out and I fell in love with with a right away so played a ton of junior golf and getting a full ride scholarship. CEO State University played there. And then. After that I wanted to play professionally. Sleep and golf is really expensive. We were talking about this earlier. It's just expensive. Play equipment traveling everything. It's just it's a rich Man's game it's just really expensive and so I didn't have any money earned income from a family who had a lot of money especially during that time in college in so oh I it. There's two ways about this so I was carrying and running junior golf camps to help pay for golf and one day. I opened up my phone and I started getting hundreds of instagram and followers and I just wanted tournament was the Colorado stroke-play and No Koro matchplay and turned my mom like this is really like this is weird. I only had maybe like five hundred followers at the time. And she's like I don't know maybe you just got some press from Colorado. I was like okay. And then ten thousand thousand followers that day twenty thousand followers so toll frat move which is a was a big college guys website. This guy named Dan he wrote an article. Cool about me is basically a love letter to me. He found my instagram randomly. And I went viral pretty much overnight so I went from having being five hundred followers to one hundred thousand day and then it went to like two hundred thousand in so I was freaking out. I didn't know what to do with this. I was never. I didn't go into any of this. Like seeking fame or a fall workers or being famous on social media. That was never something that I wanted to do actually quite introverted and so at first it was very overwhelming. My parents were like okay. Well maybe we can use this to help you in any way because I was getting offers offers from club companies like. Hey if you post this we'll give you golf balls and I was like and he got false. I Nico Balls. I need golf clubs. I need anything and I was carrying and of doing anything I could just pay for my golf career so I didn't have any help. And so I kind of leaned into that and so I started to work with different Gulf companies in doing their media for them social media and it was this weird kind of dynamic for me where I was trying to play professionally and I also had this outside career but it was really public to in. It was hard. I got a lot of hate for it because I got notice because of what I wore. And the way that my body looked and A lot of people especially coming from golf which is a very conservative sport. They didn't like me at all. They hated me and they hit everything that I stood for because I grew up on public golf courses and I. Wasn't you know what a Golfer should be. And so the I little bit of my career was super difficult because I didn't fit in like everyone hated me. Hated me. It sucked like it really really sucked in. So I ended up getting an exemption into this. Big Tournament A. L. E. T. event in Dubai and I didn't what does that mean L.. L. E. T. Li's European tour. So there's there's like many tours and then there's the LPGA tour which is the main tour and then the L. E. T.. which is the European Kantor? So I got an exemption into this event and I didn't really think much of it and I didn't think like K.. This'll be a really great stuff for my first professional national event like you need exemptions and they do exemptions quite a lot actually and they're kind of controversial engulfed because they'll give them to people like Tony Romo or people have really great stories or people who will bring a little bit more to the events. I remember on a Kosor. Anderson got an exemption into a male tournament at one point. Yeah and they get a lot of attention because of that but they don't realize that it happens pretty much weekly their sponsor exemptions in every single tournament so I ended up taking exemption and I decided to play well. It's a huge disaster. It was horrible. I bombed out how I got so much press. People were betting on if I was going to finish last in the eighties like it was horrible so I the next day miss the a kite and I was like on the floor in the bathroom in Dubai with my sister in a just bawling like I just like eating chocolate chocolate cake and just crying and I was the most red sports story in the world on Daily Mail and the headline was Golf instagram Graham girl like bombs I opening event and I was like I hate this. I hate this and so the next day I was crying and a press conference in like two people I was like I click off like I'm done with this. I'm over it and like a week goes by and I was like I'm GonNa try and skin so I spent one year fully dedicating myself to play professionally. I was still doing media work to pay for golf. Because that's all I could do but it wasn't my main focus. My focus was golf and that's all I wanted to do. I want to prove to everyone that I was more than what they thought I was. which is You Know Dumb Blonde Bimbo. WHO's selling her body to get likes? Which is true? But we'll you. You should see this shit. I post okay over the engagement so why leaned into is that fully ended up making kites on the Scottish open which is another European tour event. Played really well. I played around twenty five tournaments made money and all of them but two and I barely broke for the year and I was. Yeah so I made nothing. I was miserable and I was still getting just as much hate. Maybe more four as I was when I was trying to balance both so I asked you how your appears are handling you like other female golfers. They didn't talk talk to me so that I event that I went to one of the most admired golfers. She's been around forever she. She said she couldn't pick me apart from the bar. Soap Lake. She in other golfers were saying that I was a disgrace of sport that I I didn't deserve the sponsorship that right I was just a bad role model for young girls to look to that. You have to show your body off and you have to be this way to to get sponsor invites and girls who deserved it. More and were hardworking. Were left out because they didn't look a certain way okay and so that was kind of the narrative that followed my whole career. And it didn't matter that I beat those players when I made the cut Scottish Open. No one talked about that. They would only talk about my failures. My failures and like all bad things that ever happened to me. No one ever talked about the good stuff in so after that year playing professionally. I was like the F.. This I am out like I'm so over this I'm so done and I don't want to play professionally more. Which is not fun like I tried so hard I put everything into it and it still didn't matter like they still didn't like me? I could have shot. Whatever still was never good enough for anyone in so I said I need a break? I'm done with this. I mean I've dedicated pretty much my whole life to being the best athlete. I could possibly beam and it still isn't good enough and so I you know what I'm just going to lean in to uh-huh being this person. They think that I am going to be outspoken. And if they don't like me I'm GonNa make them not like be even more and let's make a career out of this and so that's what I'm doing now is just talking talking about things in Gulf that need to be talked about in being that person in being open and honest and talking about you know the way I was treated in the hypocrisy that they're putting out ads about how all girls are accepted yet. You didn't accept me. So why is that. Why is that okay? It's not okay in so I I think a lot of people who have the same kind of background that I have growing up with not coming from a lot of money that they don't look like everyone else where they don't all fit in they relate to me and they like me but the people who are you know. They like Golfing Gentleman's game. It's more conservative. They WANNA keep that way. The hate hate me and I love that okay so I just talked about my home. I wasn't going through it so so fast. Like there's there's things that I want to get back to but actually I'm not sure if it's really necessary because I think there's a whole underlying theme that we should get into. You have two million followers on instagram. So you say that a lot of people hated you is true but not true because you have a lot of people that love you right it. It's this weird iconic hate. Follow me though. I don't think so. I think that men love you and not to say it's because of how you look but like I think your hate comes from your own gender and I think that's the struggle that you're dealing with and that's so weird thing I was just thinking about like Brooks Kapka. Did the naked issue on on sports illustrated no one gave him shit for getting naked and being ripped up. You know Bryson Shambo is like I'm GONNA put on forty seven pounds and look huge drop bombs no one gives them crap. It's this weird thing that we have of in our society right now. Where for whatever reason? There's a lot of women trying to build women up and support them at all. Also bring you down. It's weird because all watch you know like bachelor impaired. Ice In these beautiful women are in bikinis and but girls don't I don't really. I don't really see them shaming them that much so it's never talked about or the fact that they're kissing and being intimate with people publicly. It's never talked about yet. Yeah I wear a lower cut top and because of the way my body is shaped. I'm a slot. Why is it that way and I feel like these women? They sit there and they're like well. We want to lift women up but only if they do this only if they look like this and only if they act like this and only in. It's like it doesn't work that way. That's not not being a feminist. A feminist is what I'll find for rice so we can all be who we want to be. That's the main goal. That's it for you to be like you can only be successful engulf if you wear this. That's that's not right. That's so messed up and so wrong and I see these girls on. LPGA they posed in bikinis on instagram. But I can't because I'm not as successful as them in my craft so it's all I always go back and forth like if I won a major but people still say the same thing about me I don't know I'm just going to jump in real quick because you'll and the only reason I am because you know like like a you know I'm mike hardest going out to you. Obviously but Ma'am I just also want to say member Michelle we yeah and they she she she. She got hammered and destroyed and went away for a long time because of it and because of the same sort of social dynamics six and then I'm not going to talk about feminism anymore. 'cause how not qualified but do you think that it's because golf is such like like an old boys one hundred percent game. It's a very interesting thing like yes. It's very stuffy kind of old White Guy Sport. What he's I mean? Come on football still rings. True Yeah cheerleaders. I saw the commercials and Super Bowl with the with the girl kick in the field goal. I mean like that's the thing about golf. It's so weird. Is that the everyone from business. Different sports whatever. It may be the best in the most richest people all play golf. And so it's kind of like this his top tier of all the best people in they run everything and so they always say we need to grow the game of golf but they don't really mean it because they don't want to go to their golf of course and see their wife there because that's their alone time and so they want it to be that way they want it to be this boys club. I totally understand that but be upfront about it. If you want to go and play golf with your buddies go play golf with your buddies like I don't care I'm going with my girlfriends to the spy. It doesn't matter but don't say you want to include women I an when that's not actually the truth. But here's the weird thing about this whole story line is that I feel like you're getting more hate from from the side of the gender which you should be getting the praise from The Hague I would say. I assume there's some stuffy like our company. She's he's wearing that guy. I I assume that exist for the most part I. I don't know what your metrics are on your instagram. But I guarantee you they are exactly what mine are just in reverse verse five percent ninety five percent five percent male and I guarantee I assume it's it's opposite yes but the bonkers to me. Is that the side of the gender. That should be like you go girl like my fiance. We were watching the Super Bowl. She's gives to flying about about the super bowl but like when the halftime performance came on. She was up snapping like. Yeah you go girl and like so supportive. The hate that Eh here. When Adam Levine was shirtless and all the housewives were like oh it's like do you not see what's happening happening but but that's what I'm saying is I think a lot of women watching the super bowl was like? Yeah you go girl yet like bad ass like that. which that's it's bonkers this to me? That's not happening to you. Because you're that bad ass bitch at the halftime show at the all boys thing. I think it's because there's not many women in golf in so we're all fighting for our position to be respected in. We're we grew up. Playing would just guys around us. I would go the range in. I would look down and it was just guys everywhere. I'm just so used to that everywhere I would go and so when another female comes into your turf almost you feel like their take your take your spot and so I think we always just compete with each other because we have only only been the only female around all these guys our entire life such as what we're used to and so we don't WanNa lose that so I think that's kind of like why we go back and forth worth which utterance and I could be definitely were welcoming to other women as well. I think that like I'm not saying I'm perfect and I've done everything right like I know that I haven't been as open win and like go willing to go out some of the girls on the tour and be like let's talk about this year problem with me. I promise you what's wrong. Let's just hash it out and we never do that and we should why. 'cause girls are crazy we just don't WanNa talk about it you know. It's just kind of like this long game now. We're always. He's playing in the solution to it. I think what annoys me about this like hearing this whole story. Is that for every every guy every woman who are professional professional golfers I think they can all agree. Because it's like that old cliche. That success is where opportunity and hard work. Meet right and for you. Your opportunity community was instagram. Whatever but that doesn't that doesn't discount your hard work and making cuts and like doing really well this open or whatever it is you know? And it's unfair that they they can't see that like everyone in anyone's walk of life you need a couple of good breaks if you're going to be successful and the fact that they're using that against shoe hugh seems really petty and just like mean girly to me. You know I get it though because these girls on. LPGA tour they grind. They work so hard and they're not getting paid anything. Sponsors don't want like club. Companies are not willing to give them the money that they deserve and so I can see why they're frustrated looking at me who hasn't won a tour events and then I am getting sponsorship by this company that they the want they need. It's going to help them be better yet. I'm out here. Just doing that. And so they don't realize that I am on the opposite side so they have a tour player side ride and they have a media side so I'm always on the media side in so they always try to put us together and we're very very separate the thing that bothers me. I get get that I understand and I I'm fighting for them to get better opportunities. The thing that bothers me is the girls are doing what I'm doing and they give me. Hey you know. We're all instagram golf. Girls like we need to have each other's backs and we don't so that's the most frustrating part is getting better. You think I don't yes no I think there is this movement of female empowerment. But I still think that like we're just crazy bitches and we're gonNA need a lot of like group therapy all of our friends because it's just like it's just ingrained in how we we bond on Bhai Talking Shit on other girls like that's wrong. You know we shouldn't do that or like when a girl walks buying you know they look good one hundred percent of the time a girls and go why she wearing what we you know. And that's not okay. It's just what we're used to and we just need to change how we talk to each other in all walks of life. Not just you know in my professional while I'm doing feeling countryman. Pleased him I think look. I'm the old guy here. I'm the old guy everywhere so I watched like I watched cell phones come So I'm I'm that old right so instagram. The social media The facebook instagram twitter thing about these these things the trap is that you're you're building your brand. You're obviously building. You've you've built your brand. You're building your brand. That's a very individual thing to do two so it almost immediately it harvests individuality. There's no there's no teamwork with individual branding because you're literally competing with another instagram Golfer. For clubs balls apparel peril vacation. Gigs money lifestyle right. And so and so are you and this is what podcast doing. And this is what all of these things doing and and it's funny because I'm old man grandpa looking at all this stuff and I'm and when we used to do when we would do a show you know I did a lot of shows on HDTV And we would all all sh we would all show up because we all wanted people to turn on. HDTV yeah you know but this is before we had. We had our brand now. Shit I I wish I would have listened to a brand because then you can individually make more money. But that's what we used to do and I think that right now it's almost like it's not only the cattiness of the situation you're in but it's also the the brand marketing that's GonNa keep keep you separate because anyone with nine hundred thousand followers looks at your two million and goes. What's that bitch got that I don't have of course but I think it's like we can all coexist assist? I mean we all have our own individuality like you were saying like. It's our our own personal brand. I think that's kind of what is weird right now. Now with Gulf influencers like they saw my path. You successful in a lot of girls are kind of trying to do that. But if it's not authentic to who they are and so then and it's just kind of like you're saying like oh it worked for her. Why didn't work for me? We'll she's not as pretty as me. I'm not saying that. She said that about me twisted but he's looked look like I'm a better golfer. I'm pretty I'm all the stuff. But why does she have. That is because I don't think they're being authentic to who they are. They're just trying to look for like the quick way to be successful. Yeah I mean the fact of the matter is we're just in a weird time in history where you know. There's this weird you know intersection of building your own brand and then also creating the thing that you're passionate about. I mean I would imagine the same thing can be said about me is Oh you know I was just radio guy and then I skipped a bunch of steps because I went on the bachelor. And that's unfair to all the other radio people who are like you completely skipped all the bullets that we had to go through it so I can. I can rationalize what's happening. I think that for your case specifically though it's it's it's at its baseline mean girl stuff and I think that what is cool about you now stepping away from a camera and putting your voice into a podcast cast light with playing around. Is that you now get to show the thing that I think everyone wanted to cut you down from the beginning right uh-huh okay. You can say that. She's an not saying this. But like the ditsy blonde bombshell. Yeah okay. If that's what you really think listen to podcast because I don't think that you're GonNa think that afterwards you know and that's unfair that you can judge somebody just 'cause you looked at your phone one day. Yeah and I think I see it from different way too because another big thing that I mentioned earlier is that I have been bullied pretty much my entire life so when I was growing up I had a hair condition in where my hair wouldn't grow new. Just fall out so people like in kindergarten. They WANNA stand around me because they thought I had a disease and girls would spit in my drink and they would always they through my birthday cake away in front of me and so these are just things harassed in college so I have of always dealt with this and so it's just kind of been part of my life and I think of lot of other girls to have dealt with this and I think we think that it's normal and it's almost like the strong survive vives and it's like what are you going to do to just be okay. At the end of the day I think we just need to be more open about like female empowerment. Yes but but we can't be afraid to talk about how poorly we treat each other and That we're not perfect in that. You know we are really mean and I think that's going to actually progress. The conversation of female empowerment forward instead of just being like. Oh you look great you all this stuff but behind the scenes were just not doing nine so I work with a foundation called Cyber Smile which is anti bullying organization focusing on cyber bullying. And so if anyone listening right now was dealt with bullying or any of this resonates with you. Go check them out They have a lot of helpful tips and people you can talk to. And it's just taught me a lot with everything everything that I've gone through and and I know a lot of girls especially have gone through bullying because we are bullied each other every single day. We are mean to each other and it's not normal and I think we need to talk about the fact that it. That's not what we should be dealt with like. That's not a true friendship is when you tear people down. And that's what we're GONNA do on on on patron as a podcast playing around with page Rene. Now we just got new. We just got a new fricken focus. We're going to. We're going to dedicate time to that on everyone one just watching you right. There were doing. Yeah Hello I'm comedian. And writer so feel Alexandra and I'm the CO host of the daily Zeitgeist and WanNa be comedian miles. Great and we're the host of a brand new podcast called four twenty day fiance a podcast that features an elevated discussion of our favorite reality show ninety day fiance and all of its various iterations. Now what is different different about this. podcast amongst all the PODCASTS. That are available to you. Well this podcast is fifty percent recap show fifty percent game show and one hundred percent. Delicious messy drama. Yes so if you like the sound of that listen to four day. Fiance on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi I'm Bobby Brown. Welcome to my podcast beyond the beauty. A new show from iheartradio you. You probably know me as the founder of a cosmetics company but I walked away in two thousand sixteen and boy have. I learned a lot. I've learned how to build a business. I believe leave business how to take chances at a dive in can just try things and I'm constantly trying to figure out how to myself healthier and and just live a better life. You know what I still have a lot of questions. So I'm going to be sitting down with different people each week that I think we can all all learned from creators of some of the most successful businesses and brands today. Biggest names in beauty doctors and health experts. I admire even my own family. Listen to be on the beauty on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or ever you get your podcasts. Listen this podcast. It's always funny to me. Sit Down and do a show. It never ends the way that I think. It's I and I've done means of interviews at this point. It never goes the way that I think it's an I thought we were talking about golf for forty five minutes. How doric and like I wish I was as good as you golf and and it went in this like really weird direction of I had no idea about your story and the trials and tribulations that you've had to go through and aside from all the hard work and blood sweat and tears that you've put into the game of golf all this other bullshit that you had to deal with? NBC You still persevere and create this brand and now this new show it's like super inspiring and empowering and I have a lot of females that listen to this show so I think that AH initially they're going to look at the title of the show and be like I'm so confused you're doing a golf thing and they're going to listen to and be like holy crap that was so cool and so empowering and I think that's that's what is really really interesting about this show in your show going forward so thank you so much for being on the wells cast. Thanks for having me and lending me basically event. That was along like a good therapy session. He get double pay for this being like an awesome podcast there and doing your thing too. The therapist ever human make you a drink and drink till you go on a date Josh. I've run out of time. Can you come back on the show a little bit later. And can we hear your origin story. It's pretty drab. Yeah and what are you talking about boots though dope aspe- thanks buddy. nope just real quick. Just go through your resume for everyone. So they have some idea of WHO's also also on this show with page So yeah journeyman entertainer was on will and grace did curb your enthusiasm season three. Wow Improv guy also a licensed contractor so then jumped on I was hosting shows and then jumped on at HDTV for ten years. I've done a a Lotta stuff still and actually literally building a house right now is Larry. David is cool. I hope he has everything. Thinks he is and more and he loves golf off. I know got into an argument. We got into an argument about Pebble Beach Really. 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Taking Steps

High Noon

21:58 min | 10 months ago

Taking Steps

"PERC said that every time he thinks Kyrie irvings he wants to throw up so mad the number by the way thirty five Kendrick Perkins thirty five years old. It only thirty five years old when all that. Beaumont was coming out of him in that moment. A damn shoot inside like he's thirty five years old. It feels like his thirty five in the way. That pit bull is like thirty eight which is to say it may be true. I just don't believe I refuse to believe that full. Says he's thirty eight. Oh yeah not to be a birther on this but yeah we will start with the Astros because today was apology day for their signs stealing scandal. And so the team sent Alex Bregman and Jose Altuve out there and they were remarkably on remarkable speaking for a total of ninety seconds taking zero questions but then owner. Jim CRANE DID TAKE QUESTIONS. Mr Crane to the Yankees and teams that you'd be seventeen. Listen the the Yankees have had a few comments out there You know our opinion is You know this didn't impact the game. Did you say you feel like this? Didn't impact the game in. What do you mean by that? I didn't say it didn't impact the game. This didn't impact the game on it. What do you make of that wide? Y'All even show up is my question. I think there was an understanding. Hey we got to say something to the media that meant you needed to say something. You're better off saying the full. Nothing to say into something that amounts to nothing. Grandpa's in DC made a great point. Alex Bregman was out there for a minute. Didn't take questions. Jose altuve eight was out there for thirty seconds. Didn't take quest dusty Baker just got here and sat there into all that there were for him to answer was so confusing about them. Sending the guys who didn't say anything is there. Carlos Correa was in the clubhouse ready to say something because he is talking about. There's a report that Carlos Beltran head been bullying guys into not saying anything about that care. Beltran intimated nicest guy now. We have the best team had. We all had a say in everything that we're doing in there and said Whatever we're doing We had the chance to stop it as a team. Everybody everyone has a chance to say something we did it. Send that guy out there right. Like don't send Justin verlander on some. I wish I had done more. Whatever it was. If you wanted to be effective Syndey guy to say. Hey We knew what was going on. We could've stopped it. We did not. That would've worked. It was transparent what was happening and win. Korea is there as counterpoint. Because that felt if not totally sufficient as an apology felt more genuine. It felt remorseful and when we got to the podium but we got was bad acting like the feeder of this was bad it was terrible and they had three weeks two to three weeks to figure this all out and so we know now what exactly they didn't want to do. They didn't want to obviously take any punishment for this but the other thing they didn't want to do was have their players look like they were responsible in any way and so when they're talking when Bregman is talking to talking keep in mind. The context crane had been saying that. These guys didn't get the proper guidance as if they're infants as if the manager and the general manager that were fired. It's on them but these were adults and as much as the Correa Beltran stuff is right to be complicated by that video. The bottom line is this was a player driven scheme in Seoul. The obvious question is why. Are The players getting punished? And they don't want to answer to any no but I understand why the players aren't getting punished. That isn't even really that hard to answer in. It's because it's too many of them right like the logistics trying to carry out a punishment or whatever then go jason's work with the Players Association are what got us to that point. I don't feel like that. Is that hard to own if they want to? But would I get annoyed by with these guys on the Astros just burland? I wish I had said more because he came in during twenty seventeen so he gets in and get there. I wish I had said more. I read something Brian McCann. Ask Them to stop. And I'm like did you ask them to stop. Was it as fervent as you ask. Carlos Gomez to run around two basis a little bit faster. What was it all? They had to say. Yo we did it and we were wrong. And I'm telling you this would've gone would have been cool now. Maddie staff lions quarterback for the last decade will do their job for at least another year. That's what can be gleaned from lies. Gm Bob Quinn texting one hundred percent folks unquote today. Burkett of the Detroit. Free press about a report from wd IV that the team was thinking of Trading Stafford. Stafford was great last season while he was relatively healthy but his season ended refraction bones in his back and train him come with an enormous cap but Pablo should the lions consider. Moving on from Stafford should consider absolutely the Guy has as you say broken bones in his back from last season also from the season before that so how important is the spine the playing of football. That all leads me to think if there are incoming offers you should look at those. But the reason why they're not going to Bomani it's because the GM and the coach Matt Patricia like last two years there nine hundred thousand two. They lost nine straight games. Last year won three games. They need to win now. Their jobs are on the line. Ownership wants this thing to not be so sorry and so they can't afford taking risks because even with all those broken bones in his back Stafford still is the best hope for their present. Here's my question though about the idea of risk because I think everything you said is correct. They can't afford to be out here with a lackluster team. When they're coaching for those jobs they're also at the number three pick in the draft. They are in a position where they could get a quarterback. One would think it might take a little bit of shuffling. But they're in a place where if there was a guy in the draft. They really felt good about they could go get him. Cap Hit notwithstanding. This is my question. What has having. Matthew Stafford done for them in the last ten years right because I would not call him a bust. That feels a little bit unfair. How ever he's the number one overall pick in the draft eleven years ago. They have now won a playoff game with him. You can keep him but he is. Obviously not the key to your success. We have lots of evidence to indicate that they are actually in a position where I would not blame them if they could find a taker for quarterback. This seems to have a damage body to make this the time to move on if they were even considering it that would say a lot about where his body is at this point but this would be a good time for them to move on if the people in charge were not fighting jobs up next. We got the maps Luca. Danni had thirty three twelve and eight return from a sprained right ankle last night as Dallas. Beat the Kings by nineteen but the best news for the mavs might be that. The team's second best player Kristaps Porzingis he thrived alongside the guy who had bumped him out of the spotlight. He went offer twenty seven thirteen five and three now. That kind of chemistry had been super hard to come by earlier. This season so Bomani. How encouraging was what you saw in Dallas last I thought was encouraging but I wonder if the encouragement is less about how they play together and maybe the hiccups they had along the way. We're about PORZINGAS getting back healthy. Because he's been great all month. He was great without dodgers. You look it up to thirty five these these big thirty four games that he had been putting up so it is certainly helpful that these guys are playing well and they're playing together but I caution the mavericks on this you basically got two guys who were eating up something like sixty five percent of possessions when they are on the floor. It's really these to do. And everybody else gets as they can get. I think for them to really be a threat as much as their offense has been so great out of this world in terms of offensive rating. But when this is an eighty two you can do that when he gets down to best seven. They're gonNA have to find ways for other dues to get shots. It can't just be those two guys so the offense is incredible. The offense is the best in the league. The offense right now is the best of all time by officiency ratings so all of that well beyond my expectations. I think the thing that helped these two guys though. Is that Dwight Powell. Her by Powell had this Achilles thing Powell was the guy running the pick and roll with Lucas. Don's Fish Lucas dribbling. He was the roll man now. Porzingus is that guy and so I wonder if there's this weird sort of like semi mirror image what the sixers have dealt with where you have Simmons embiid and then Al Horford. Well there are. Dwight Powell is now out of there and these two guys can get along the bottom line question. Though is the defense. The defense man is bottom ten in terms of defensive rating and so that offense super super impressive but the ceiling the ceiling for them as the defensive for the thing with me and Porzingas into Dwight Powell thing becomes interesting which is always feel like. He's a center in denial. Right and the idea of him being seven foot three and his ability to shoot all people really get off on this notion in on this idea but he needs to be the big man even if he's a big man that stepping away from the basket. I think the best use of him. We'll be as the big man as opposed to one big man because we can have all these big man because porzingas is some kind of universal for zinc is to his credit has since Donncha has returned even before then as you pointed out. He's sort of made peace with the fact that on the weak side. He's going to be three point shooter. He's the complementary piece big question in all of these tandems. We've talked about the talent gap that exists. Well when you have that much talent in this case these two guys is he. Okay with that is porzingas fundamentally at peace with the fact that Luka is in fact leagues ahead of him. Well I mean. I don't know what you say. Leagues Ahead Him Ahead and what way? Because he's still gonNA get plenty of shots as an offensive player. Man is so much better there but the I don't think the issue would not be about the idea. The dodgers is better than him. The problem is the dodgers shoots too much. I don't know why people have not come to terms with this reality right. He is a Russell Westbrook. Type figure in terms of dominating the ball so if uh porzingas Emma worried about how good he is. I'm like hey make sure everybody else gets the rock coming up. Next with. James wasn't though few intercepts is because he got his eyes. Fix High noon is brought to you by TACO bells. Nacho fries how do you judge someone not by what they say what they do? We're a nation of doers. 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I Stop James Winston at throwing thirty interceptions whereas decide. Undergo lacy is surgery. Yesterday he's long been nearsighted Clever off squinting during games you in all James throwing interceptions next year after getting his eyesight correct. I see this as plausible because getting surgery feels like you're fixing your vision that seemed to be the obstacle but I don't want him to change. I don't want the Fund James to leave the whole joy of watching him. Last year was watching him. Squint and guess and guess wrong. A lot of the time most joy you have watching James Though interceptions as when Ryan Fitzpatrick was behind. You hope that he would get the damn job now. Will the eye surgery stop throwing interceptions? Thirty interceptions is so many than my guess is that the number is going to fall just because you can't throw thirty interceptions again. I don't know how big a problem this is forum. 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Strike the Match, Part 3

Invention

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Strike the Match, Part 3

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Brennan of Disgrace Land listened to dear young rocker on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Zeros taught US phosphorus. We learned to like the fire by playing cling glaciers when a boy and tender guest by power of opposite to balance odd if white a red must be paralysis or primer dumb unto vitality Welcome to invention production of iheartradio. Hey Welcome to invention. My name is Robert Lamb. And I'm Joe McCormack and that was a little. Emily Dickenson catch things Ablaze here as we begin our third and final episode on matches. Who'd of known that? She had a poem by chemistry. I this one. I'd never heard of this this particular poem before I was just looking up. It was just researching phosphorus and then Lo and behold. There is a poem by Emily Dickinson. And I was like. Oh well we've got to include this Got To do a cold reading of this poem. I'm not sure it's actually about chemistry. I have no idea what this one's about about like like many of her poems that I really do enjoy reading line by line ultimately becomes very difficult to understand what they're about if anything like it. It's almost certainly not literally about phosphorus. But it is at least a using fast versus a metaphor for something. It's bringing up tender and the white and the red Well I I can't help but wonder if that is a reference to white and red phosphorus huggy discussing in this episode the last that we finally got to the friction match attributed to the English chemist and Druggist John Walker who in the eighteen twenties put together this paste made of antimony Oni sulfide potassium chlorate all bound together with a gum. Put that on the end of the stick gave it to you with a piece of sandpaper and said have fun. That's that's right. We also discussed the properties of phosphorus white phosphorus and some of the dangerous sounding inventions or dangerous sounding but outright dangerous inventions that sought to take advantage of its incendiary sendero properties. Right and then as pointed out in one of our sources for this episode a an article by Pollock Brown Ruben that was published in two thousand fifteen in cranial maxwell oh facial trauma and reconstruction around eighteen sixty phosphorus and strike matches began to come together in a major way right because they're different recipes. You can use for kind of strike match right Obviously phosphorus has an advantage because it has the ability to has a low ignition point and the ability he to ignite in the presence of oxygen So it's not hard to get it burning. Them would also sometimes be combined with like some sulphur elements. There are few different ways. You can put together the chemical head of a match but phosphorus is clearly a winner for that recipe. Yeah the authors here mentioned that in eighteen fifty nine which would have been the year of Walker's death found white phosphorus also referred to as yellow phosphorus being added to sulfur based matchstick coatings to trigger an even more volatile flame. A new. which is you can imagine it? It could be more beneficial especially if you're in a trying environment. Even today you can get you can get matches that flare up more and a little a little more You know almost explosive at the initial strike another thing. I'm not positive about but I kind of wonder if having more power in the phosphorus and lessen the sulfur I would make the matches less noxious in terms of fumes and smell Because remember in the last episode one of the main types of matches were these things called Lucifer for is these sulphur based strike matches that were being produced by a guy out of London. Name Samuel Jones and you know it was like warned like be careful inhaling this stuff it does not for the week of lung now according to Jamie Whitney Ac who is one of the authors that we referenced the previous episodes and wrote a piece about the history of matches you had an earlier innovator by the name of Jacob Frederick Calmer who is often credited as the first manufacturer of the phosphorus base friction match however French French chemist Charles Mark Saria who lived eighteen. Twelve to eighteen ninety-five demonstrated the design earlier than that. All of this began to get going really in earnest around Eighteenth thirty but again eighteen sixty By that point the white phosphorus friction match was apparently very popular. So here we go a new you ever. In our match technology. They were very popular. They were handy but as it turns out. There manufacturer was coming at a horrifying price. Yes so to be clear. There are no shortage of horrors to be found Within the industrial revolution the world's growing demand for manufactured should goods in the rapidly. Changing ways. These goods were produced introduced a variety of environmental practices that were harmful to human and environmental well-being so the the manufacturer of the phosphorus match though presents a particularly pronounced in horrifying example and that is in the creation of these phosphorus matches which is the individuals who worked to create them day in day out our upon our Began to suffer from what is known as Fosse jaw or more efficiently. Phosphorus necrosis of the jaw. This is necrosis of the bones in the face. That was common enough that it got a cute nickname name Fosse jaw and somehow that makes it so much worse especially when you're looking at photographs. I mean this was an age of photographic evidence. We have photographs of the kind of damage that was wrought on people's facial features. Yeah like what. What if you had like a cute funny name for cholera? That's tell you you're getting cholera way. Too much yeah it picks it just makes it all the more sinister so humans have been working with white phosphorus since its discovery in the seventeenth century. But it's one thing for an alchemist chemists to encounter the fumes of its Of working with it you know perhaps in passing inside of a layer or workshop. It's quite another for these fumes to be summoned and in an industrial environment and inflicted on unsuspecting workers. Day In and day out. Yeah and that's exactly what happened so pollock at all discussed this in that That paper burn the full title is Fossey jaw and discuss each of the nineteen th and twenty th century the Diet of John Walker in the friction match man. I had to look up the word die u-turn entity I was not familiar with that one. Apparently it means having the quality of long-lasting nece so they point out that the vats that were used to create these. He's a that the foster sub pays for these matches. It released all these toxic fumes and these were particularly pronounced in the dipping centers and in the drying rooms for the matches matches as such the dippers in the handlers were exposed to it the most right because there were a number of different jobs. I mean one of the things that came about. During the Industrial Revolution was like the Division of Labor Uber into smaller and smaller jobs repeated more and more so like there was some people whose job was just to like crammed the matches into the boxes as fast as they could and whatever and so it. Ah those people were at lower risk than the people who were dealing directly with the fumes that the more volatile stage and these are some pretty tough fumes. I mean we know today that as little whereas fifty milligrams of white phosphorus can prove fatal for for instance and and here that the fumes are just imagining the places where these these matches are being produced. News the ventilation is probably not that great. And the levels of the toxicity from this exposure basically broke down as follows this again according to Pollack at all so first of all ginger vitus within three to five years of exposure so gum disease yeah and then also sequestering of Alveoli crest crest bone within three to five years of exposure now sequestrating in the medical sense is abnormal separation and the area in question. This is the The most coronal portion of the bone surrounding the tooth so yeah in common terms people would talk about the teeth becoming loose because like the bone and end the gums. The everything sort of holding them in place is getting loosened up and coming away. Yeah The the the fun part is if you read this entire paper you will begin into feel. Your teeth loosened a little bit. Oh Man I got so grossed out searching this episode. Yeah yeah it's kind of stuff so yeah this would. Also this could also result in las teeth of course Because then the next level is full on Osteo. necrosis of mandibular and Max Larry Bone stock. This would be the Fossey jaw within three to five years of exposure. So we're talking death of bone tissue due to temporary or permanent loss of blood supply to the bones and the authors describe at this resulting in quote unrelenting jaw pain. Yeah and of course you can understand why because the bone is basically turning into a sponge. You know like the it's like losing density because it it's not being able to replace itself with new tissue because it's not getting the blood flow at needs something. That's even more eerie kind of hard to believe but I I read a read. Mentions actions of this and a couple of sources there. Is this idea of the phosphoric luminescence as the gums begin separate in the Jawbone begins to decay. Apparently some victims gums would glow a faint Pale Green in the dark. That is horrifying. And yet there's more because this could also lead to oral oral and Auto Catania's Fistula these were also common and Fistula means connections between two hollows unnatural connections between two hollows Paula. Yes and with increased exposure. They could also develop Fossey lung resulting in cough sputum production and Hema Tyson and he mop Thais is is coughing up blood and then you could also develop bossy brain. This would be where the individual would would would have seizures. Obviously this could be fatal. You could also become anaemic anemic. This would be where the blood lacks enough healthy red blood cells or or hemoglobin. And then also you can have Fossey Mero and this would just be reduced. White blood sells now. There are lots of existing photographs of what this is like. It's a it's horrible. Yeah you ever talking. Complete decomposition of the jaw and extensive inflammation of the surrounding tissue and it did not apparently take the match industry long to realize that there were some serious issues going on. Yeah I was reading actually the as early as eighteen fifty to Charles Dickens wrote about quote one of the evils of matchmaking in his weekly magazine household words it included reports from different matchstick factories about the like The disease and the conditions. They'll he talks about one factory that I I don't know exactly actually what it was. They did specially he. He reports some hygiene conditions. They're involved like washing and stuff like that. But I don't know exactly how that would contribute to reducing the exposure to the vapors or something. He's like they were. They were doing a dental Washington's for the individuals and he he doesn't say dental it sounds more like some kind in a bathing or something I don't know I don't fully understand what was happening there but he at least has some factories. The conditions aren't as bad as in others and seems to be suggested that you you can do something to prevent this. But I don't know maybe I mean I'm sure Charles Dickens was not an epidemiologist here well you know I. I think I'll probably get to this in a bit but later on you do see. Some of these factories implementing a dental checkups in some level of dental care for the individuals says why my mind immediately thought went to like the idea of maybe like a mouthwash being instituted for for everybody to what degree that would actually help you know I. I'm not sure so. I found on a good post about Fosse jaw and the the actual medical progression here by Susan Isaac on the blog for the library of the Royal College of Surgeons in England and a lot of this post focuses on the experience of a surgeon named James Rushmore. Would who wrote a medical article in eighteen fifty seven about his attempts to help a patient named Cornelia who was a sixteen year old girl. She worked fulltime in a New York. matchstick factory sorry for about two and a half years and I will warn you. This is going to get pretty graphic for a minute here but I think it's important to to drive home. What these workers were facing so You you consider yourself warned buckle up So quote in May eighteen fifty five. She was seized with a toothache and swelling on the right side of her lower jaw to relieve. Relieve the pain I. Her gums were lanced and later a tooth was extracted but the swelling gradually increased until a spontaneous opening formed under her jaw which continuously discharged pus. Despite this she continued to work in the factory until a week before she was admitted to Bellevue Hospital on Seventeenth December eighteen fifty-five So so once. He's at Bellevue. She starts to have real difficulty eating. Obviously because it's too painful for her to chew and she had severe pain in the jaw and swelling of the face and eventually would decided that the only way to save her was to remove the decaying bone on the right side of her jaw. And this is is an intervention at the time they thought that you remove the decaying bone in that prevents the spread of the the phosphorus poisoning to other parts of the body like it prevents it spreading to the brain so this surgery took place in January of eighteen fifty six There was no anesthesia. He had to use what was called a chainsaw to cut. Cut Down the middle of the JAW. And this wouldn't be a a motorized chainsaw like we have today. This would be more like a chain or a wire pulled back and forth by hand saw the bones. uh-huh okay is it compares it to a big cheese wire and then in the middle of the procedure the chain broke and he had to get the rest of the jaw half confusing four sauce so she survived the surgery and she was healing but then the left side of her jaw started showing the same phosphorus poisoning symptoms. The right had ad and in the middle of February they had to go back in and remove the entire remaining lower jaw as she was treated with allowed him and in the following days. It says she received wine. Fine and quote a daily led an opium wash okay but Amazingly Cornelia survived the surgery and she was still able to move her tongue in mouth. Apparently apparently she recovered to better health. After this and would mention that he apparently he was proud he had somewhat preserved the appearance of her face despite having to remove the the entire lower jaw. Oh my goodness be. I mean. It's unbelievable especially given the medical technology of the day like they didn't have antibiotics at this point they couldn't give for that So I'm sure a lot of people going in for these kind of surgeries probably. Didn't fare as well as Cornelia did And the surgery is just as described. It's unimaginable actionable right and in in deed we're seeing this carry out probably by an extremely gifted search and of the day you know not everybody was was lucky enough to have access to someone like that not yet but it so this is what tons of workers in these factories of the period were facing and one of the hardest things to understand is that it wasn't like nobody understood what what's going on. You know it wasn't like nobody knew that phosphorus could be bad for you. Oh Yeah I mean. White Phosphorus was already recognized as an irritant poison in poison literature of the eighteen eighteen. Tens of bone necrosis was reported as early as eighteen forty by eighteen sixty. Nine phosphorus wasn't used as a poison by criminals and this was in due in large part because white phosphorus pace was being used in animal poisons like for poisoning of rats and vermin and whatnot and there was no cure. That was another reason. It was a again popular with with criminals at least until alot an individual by the name of Jacques Persona who lived eighteen sixteen through eighteen eighteen eighty conducted experiments on dogs and found that Turpentine Could be could be used to treat such poisonings. As it hinders the hemoglobin attacking properties operative of phosphorus in the blood early eighteen thirty nine in fact the hazards were to some degree appreciated within the industry. The issue contributed to a major London strike strike in eighteen. Eighty eight for example. Yeah I'M GONNA come back to that in detail in just a minute and like I mentioned earlier match. Factories began to offer free dental care and regular inspections for employees. I believe it is that That craniofacial paper actually had a photograph of one of these dental clinics from a match factory and yet the use of white phosphorus continued until the early twentieth century when an international ban came into place in nineteen Oh six and major international manufacturers followed suit over the following decade. Well maybe we should take a quick break and then when we come back we can talk more about the rebellion of matchstick factory workers and the strike of eighteen eighty. What do you think about when you consider the greatest exploration vehicles of all time Well I would maybe think of the Apollo spacecraft lunar module that sat down in the Sea of tranquility. Yeah Yeah I think of the Baathist fear which allowed humans is to sink down three thousand feet into the inky black depths off the coast of Bermuda the Beth spheres very good choice. But it's hard to get your own spacecraft or bathysphere. It's true I've I've tried you can't and that's why we should consider as an alternative the twenty twenty four to explore. It's completely redesigned. And it might just be the greatest exploration ration- vehicle of all time. That's the twenty twenty four to explore will take you into territory that maybe charted but hardly conquered such as the tangled interstates of Atlanta or la a or the winding country. Roads that sprawl between your home and your next vacation destination. Yeah I mean we've all had that experience right where you set off on a road trip and between between point a and point B Things can get a little tangled. 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And I approve this message passage because we need to deliver on the promise of the American Dream Paid for by Mike Bloomberg Twenty twenty. All right. We're back let's talk about the matchsticks strike strike okay So I was reading about the British campaign against conditions in matchstick factories in the eighteen eighties in short article by University of Bradford nursing and healthcare scholar named Kathryn best and this was especially good because it through it. I found a link to an original document from the period. Just a a- amazing So specifically she is focused on the matchstick girls who worked in the east end of London often for fourteen hours a day. Hey for low pay under pretty miserable. Conditions for example employers would impose fines on the workers for all kinds of ways. They screwed up. been at the job so like if they accidentally spilled matches on their bench. You could get a fine or if you talk to the person next to you during a shift you could get fined. So there's all sorts of punitive measures to try and ensure production goes off without a without a stitch. Yes and most importantly there of course is this constant exposure sure to the now well known hazards of white phosphorus vapors like as we discussed the negative health effects of white phosphorus. Were well known by this time but also at this time there there were not sufficient workplace safety laws in place so there are no laws to protect the workers really factory owners are sort of on their honor and of course many of them are going to decide. Well what am I gonNa make less money or am I going to subject my workers to this payroll as one of the costs of doing business. You can guess which one a lot of them chose. Oh yeah because you can also imagine workers. I mean the factory owners having an attitude if like well. We'll do something about this later right now. We've got to focus on on the prophets but of course course the white phosphorus poisoning. That's GONNA come in every day for work on time. It's never going to fail to show up those a very good point so then then in the eighteen eighty eight Anne Basan road an expose of the conditions at Bryant and may which Catherine best points out this is confusing is is somehow not the same as different modern company called Bryant and may which also makes matches so So I guess who whoever the modern one is has. Don't hold this story about this other company against them. Okay good to know mid anyway so any Basan wrote this article for a London. Socialist Journal published on June twenty third eighteen eighty eight and so she goes through explaining the impossibly low wages. They get paid. And how you know you can barely survive on them. And then she describes describes factory conditions including all of the supposed infractions that workers get charged fines for including the ones. I mentioned a minute ago but also things like quote route. One girl was fine for letting the web twist round machine in the endeavor to save her fingers from being cut and she was sharply told to take care of the machine quote. Never mind your fingers another who carried out the instructions and lost a finger thereby was left unsupported when she was helpless. The wage covers the duty of submitting to an occasional blow from the forman one who appears to be a gentleman of variable temper and quote clouds them quote win when he is mad. Basan also describes this unbelievable episode. I was getting so mad just reading about it where the factory owner Mr Theodore Bryant wanted to build a statue in honor of Mr Gladstone. She doesn't say exactly who this is that I'm not positive but I think it probably refers to British politician William Gladstone who had been the Prime Minister of the UK several times in the late eighteen hundreds and so the owner. He likes this public figure. Probably this politician he wants to fund the creation of this statue in his honor and quote in order that his work girls might have the privilege of contributing he stopped one inch schilling each out of their wages and further deprive them of a half day's work by closing the factory quote giving them a holiday. Oh my God you know. We mentioned AH Dickens earlier and it's amazing how poorly as we perceive ebeneezer scrooge prior to his his his great change. I exclude is nowhere near as bad as this guy is sounding no at least because scrooge at least got to be mean to your face like you'd have to fully acknowledge like okay. Hey My boss is mean. And he knows he's me and this guy is like wouldn't you love the privilege of contributing to this statue that I want to build an honor. A politician Titian will. I'll just dock your pay so that you can contribute That's just it's unimaginable and according to this leads to some of the workers gathering As the statue is unveiled bringing bricks with them and pelting it at its unveiling home I and then intentionally cutting themselves and smearing their blood on the marble because the statute they believe was paid for by their blood. Oh Mike my goodness. I don't know if there's a movie about this but there should be absolutely I mean this is dramatic And then at the end Basan encourages a boycott of Bryant and may matches no big surprise. There she's like you know we're GonNa make them pay and she writes quote. Oh if we had but a people's Dante to make special circle in the inferno for those who live on this misery and suck the wealth without the starvation of helpless girls failing poet to hold up their conduct to the execution of posterity enshrined. in-depth Lewis Verse. Let us strive. I have to touch their consciences. I e their pockets and let us at least avoid being quote partake of their sins by abstaining from using their commodities. Yeah and this is this is ultimately why we need. We do need laws and regulations in place to make sure that you know the certain a certain in threshold is is is is reached and maintained by companies. Like this. Yeah I mean even with laws and regulations in place employers can be infuriating. Hi Times but like it. You know without any leash without without causing regulations to try and circumvent like like this. This is the level that The waters fall too so obviously the bosses did not love this article that she published and so it led to a series of retaliatory actions by the factory bosses which in turn led to a strike of more than fourteen hundred women and girls who worked in the factories and eventually it was resolved. They the strikers negotiated a list list of demands from the owners. But still it wasn't until almost two decades later that white phosphorus was made illegal for match manufacturing in the UK and was according to best Basically taxed out of business practicality in the United States select. She's a the they put a punitive tax on it. That made it not feasible to use white phosphorus offers anymore again kind of speaking to their conscious their pocketbooks the judge pockets now. Another huge change Perhaps one of the more important changed here. Came via the discovery of Amorphous or red phosphorus in eighteen forty five by Austrian chemist Anton Vence Rotor I gotTa admit it made me think about star. Trek was like so like red matter. Your stuff i. It sounds like an alternative Scifi version of something. Yeah I mean in a sense it was pretty interesting. Basically red phosphorus is obtained through the heat treatment of white phosphorus in a sealed lightness environment which the detail I love because that makes me think back to. White Phosphorus alchemy origins. Sounds like something from the world of alchemy that it must be brewed You know away. From the light of the sun in the darkness in the pit of my lair. Yeah so red phosphorus is comparatively nontoxic and does not spontaneously combust I Swedish Chemist Yawns Jacob Brasilia's saw the potential for matches and an author Albright developed a means of mass producing red phosphorus. Chris Boucher eighteen fifty one and this would pave the way for what we come to know as the safety match. Well maybe we should take a quick break when we come back. We can explore for the safety match ever been locked down. You know suffered a setback fired left without it happens. It happens a Mike. Bloomberg middle class kid worked his way through college. Got A job started a family boom fired at thirty nine wooded. Did Mike do a lot of us. Do we got backup dove back in. He had an idea designer new computer able to quench data and process information in a unique way EH. 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Entertainment Healthcare and travel innovation is coming join them as they explore. How this revolution could impact your life and give you new ways to connect and engage this time? Tomorrow is now available on the iheartradio APP or wherever you listen to podcasts. All right we're back so at this point we have friction matches that no longer depend on a toxic poison but there was another risk factor with the friction match at this at this one. Is I think exemplified. By the cool images you might have seen a various villains striking matches on say the brick wall of an alley and then lighting adding their smoke or their belt. Buckle or with their fingernails shoe on the shoe yeah that's a good cartoon character move. Yeah and it's there's something magical about it's like like I can summon fire out of the very rocks out of the space between my fingernails etc.. Striking Amash on part of your body is kind of like the people who like to open open bottles with their teeth. Yeah this raises an interesting side question. I forget what it was but there was some time in the past several months where I caught my son attempting to open something with his teeth and I was like. What are you doing and I had to bring myself down because then realized have I asked myself have I ever said? Don't use your teeth to open something like I don't think the guy had it makes me wonder like to what extent the using of our teeth to open things into to perform. Various tasks is kind of ingrained. Aim Dennis And we you know if if not for a parental voice telling us no. You don't need to do that or if not for life lessons that show Oh you the dangers of trying to open too many bottles with your teeth that we would just depend on them. Maybe I'm just weak willed by nature but I am not a tooth opener I do. Do not have it in my DNA on that random thing at least in the. I don't know if I did when I was a kid but I I certainly don't now and that's one of the reasons. I was kind of like horrified When I when I caught my son trying to open something with his teeth though I do remember thinking? This is hilarious. In retrospect that when I was a kid and I saw other kids doing that you know they opened the coke bottle with thirteen or whatever I remember thinking. Wow that person's really braves course. Now we know they just didn't have responsible adult in their life to yell at them. That's a guy I can depend on all right so so yeah. The strike anywhere matches that distract off of a wall or a boot. Or what have you so a match head can ignite via friction like this then it can potentially obtain that friction not only on purpose but when when you're striking it but also accidentally striking against among other things other match heads up and of course this would not be an issue if you only carried a single match at a time or you kept kept individual matches stored inside a friction proof storage cylinders or something but that's hardly practical matches frequently come in boxes and and you do not want an entire box of matches suddenly igniting in your carriage in your home and your Satchel on ship or wherever you happen to be carrying them usually bad when you're cargo spontaneously catches fire. Yes right yeah nobody. Nobody needs that so the answer to all this is going to be the safety match and it is. He's going to merge out of Sweden so Sweden was really big in the match game at the time. This is where Alexander Lager would bring the first automated match fabricator online and in eighteen. Sixty four and resulting high-speed production would lead to the invention of the matchbook by American Joshua. Say in the eighteen nineties but before all of this the idea emerged that the red phosphorus necessary to the match striking could be placed elsewhere. Not In the head of the match but in a special strike plate on the side of the box so you'd be like taking the phosphorus and the sulphur away from each other right and you don't just get get to hang out in the same room will put together when it's time right and said this brings me back to my childhood of playing with matches watching cool villains and cowboys boys and whatnot strike matches off of this random things and I remember trying to do this with safety match and and I remember my disappointment at not being able to carry this out. Did you think it was a problem with the matches or did you think it was a problem with yourself. I well you know. Once you've destroyed half a box of matches trying to cool you realize well maybe it's not me Mayfield matches. And maybe there's something different about these matches right in. And that is indeed the case so the idea is to take that red phosphorus and put it in that strike plate so the match head contains like paraffin or sulfur while the reds flew the red phosphorus is again in the strike plate along with something like powdered glass to help create the friction now. Swedish chemist Gustaf Erik. Pasch is credited with I this technique but he wasn't able to fully realize it Pleasure reading you know having trouble getting the chemical desribed he could. It could make it happen. The idea was there And he had the under the right track but he just couldn't make it work in a consistent manner. Yeah I've usually seen credit given to somebody named Johann loons trump. Yes this would be the Lindstrom brothers. Giancarl who improved on these designs. And then they introduced the safety match to the market in the late eighteen fifties now now strike anywhere matches are still available. I mean that's where the cowboys in the villains were getting. Obviously some of my cooler friends had them when I was a kid. And they these as with generally contain say phosphorus CESKA sulfide Instead of white phosphorus. But there have been journal articles about poisonings. Mostly I was is finding them for the first half of the twentieth century concerning match and Max matchbox dermatitis from the use of such matches even made mention of tooth loosening as well L. so again it seems like there were still some health concerns with with with these D- this variety of phosphorus match now of course the of evolution of the match doesn't stop there we eventually get the matchbook which comes online in the matchbook becomes of course very popular for advertising for or spreading propaganda right especially in the age of smoking? I mean this is how you have your handy light. You know. In addition to the delight or technology they're mainly useful for writing a clue in an active story. Yes and then forgetting about losing the match book or You you wind up murdered and someone else reads your matchbook. Yeah you also have the incense match where Something else is added to the chemistry of the match head in order to produce a Pleasing Aroma. You also have varying matchbook designs I was looking around at at just. Some of the different designs you can get nowadays from major match manufacturers actors One that I remember encountering pretty early in my life was the popular lipstick box with. So it's a little more like a little casket I mean mean. Matchboxes are always going to be caskets for dolls and action figures and occasionally actual animals but this one is more slender so they're out huge huge variety of different box designs. You also see long fireplace matches right because remember those. Yeah because sometimes you need to get the fire Further into say You know the the the logs of a of a fireplace had been prepared. Also there's the subject of waterproof matches and you can also make waterproof matches using a variety of different recipes to treat normal safety matches but it also seems that nothing quite beats keeping your matches as dry as possible through other means such as waterproof cylinders but then again they're going to be situations where you're trying to use matches and say very moist or rainy conditions and that's where the necessity comes into to play but then also some of these environments will call for stronger burning matches such as lifeboat matches which are just variety that are going to ignite and burn uh-huh brighter and stronger at higher temperature. Men this history of matches has proven so much more interesting than I might have guessed got to Otzi the ICEMAN. We got to Muskets as we got to nineteenth century labor conditions. We've got crazy. Medical Misadventure is. This has been all over the place we had. We had alchemists. We had plenty of the elder. 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Strike the Match, Part 2

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Strike the Match, Part 2

"Support for invention comes from T.. Mobile for business five G. will revolutionize the way we work but it only matters. See Your Business if it works where you do T.. Mobile has invested tested. Nearly thirty billion dollars in their advanced network to drive true workforce mobility no matter the size of your business t mobile for businesses here to change the way your business business moves businesses changing are you with us. More at T.. MOBILE FOR BUSINESS DOT COM. Hi Everyone Katie. couric here to let you know that my podcast next question Shen with me. Katie couric is back for. Its second season. I'll be diving into some big issues like this country's devastating maternal mortality rate. The rise is of astrology and a little thing called the presidential election. Listen to next question. It comes out every Thursday on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Pass or wherever you get your favorite shows. Welcome to invention the production of iheartradio. Hey Welcome to invention. My name is Robert Lamb. And I'm Joe McCormack and we're back this week with part two of our exploration of fire technology and specifically the match the humble match the enticing match the intoxicating executing match what. I'm getting carried away. Yes in our last episode. We we really covered a lot of ground. We started with an ancient earth incapable of sustaining fire. Fire and we moved onto humanity's earliest uses of the pilfered flame from there. We discovered the great leap forward into fire. Creation technology namely fire drills Dell's and Flint and pyrite or flint and steel and we also talked about fuel manufactured fuel such as chopping wood and create. You know creating more suitable types of fuel for your fire but also specialized fuel and this led to little sticks of wood for moving fire from one place is to another and ultimately the origins of the sulfur match in which a little A little piece of wood is then dipped into sulfur to create ate a piece of Of Fuel Lights up very readily allows you to transfer fire from one place to another right now. One of the things we talked about it in the last episode and we needed to make as a very clear distinction. was that the sulphur match. That was very invented. In ancient China may also have existed in ancient Rome. According to a few references says there this was a chemical match and that was used to quickly catch fire but it was not a friction match automatic. That you would be able to like By striking it across a surface right if you were to travel back in time and to to To China at the time uh request a match and then attempt to strike it you would just be a May match destroyer right in people. Would we wondering what you're trying to do. Why are you rubbing? This special is the term for it. the light bringing slave. Yeah why are you taking our light bringing slaves and just destroying them against a brick wall Yeah but they would still be quite it useful even though they can only be ignited by existing heat or flame because they'd be useful for say transferring fire from one place to another. You WanNa take fire say out of a pot and and light a candle or something. Yeah in one of the I think the Big Day comes certainly go back and listen to that episode. If you haven't but I think one of the big take comes in and one of the biggest discoveries for me was just thinking about fire as a process as a thing that happens and then all these fire technologies are ways of managing that process to transform an event event into a tangible substance. Yeah a lot of times that means sort of putting the fire and kind of suspended animation like reducing the fire as as much as possible without actually extinguishing it to make it manageable And this was also something we talked about. As an ancient technology that existed probably even before for humans had the ability to make their own fires They had various methods. They'd come up with to carry fire around without it going out So for example people we talked about the possessions of Otzi. The iceman who was found in the Italian Alps in nineteen ninety one. This Neolithic Mummy who's frozen there in the glacier and one of the things he he had on him was a little container made out of Birchbark that appeared to be for carrying coals around could take a coal out of one fire. Put it in this little container container rapid and leaves and you'd have a coal that would continue to burn for hours in case you need to make camp really quickly. You know one thing. I kept thinking about talking about in the last episode. Is the Disney Christmas. Carol in which crotchet played by Mickey Mouse brings home a hot coal from Ebeneezer scrooges stove. Move to to light his own stove at home. Oh I I don't know if I even remember this. I believe that is the case unless I missed remembering there is. I'm sure you're right if it wasn't bad at some other version of a Christmas Carol that I've seen it wasn't doubting saying I'm not aware it's also possible that it wasn't crash at bringing home the co but perhaps scrooge bringing home a hot coal from his office place To ignite some small fire at his home. He is all about efficiency. Yeah but but you know it it it makes a lot more percents now that one really gets down and consider as the the pain of having to start a fire you know it makes sense to bring that hot coal home if you have the ability to transfer of transferring now in this episode we are going to be getting into the origins of the actual friction match but I started to wonder okay so we know based on the last episode food that there were several things that were called a match before the friction match existed. So where does this term a match. Come from yeah. We mentioned Mandarin Mandarin Terminology. We mentioned a little Latin but as James Wozniak points out in his matches the manufacturer fire from two thousand five published in the Journal of Chemical Technology Technology. The word match seems to come from the French mesh a I think a and this would be a wick as a lamp and it likely refers back to the Latin and Might Mix. I believe it is Mixer mixer which would be the work of a lamp but the key technology that led to the naming of the match etched Dixie. It seems was what is known as the slow match. Now this is something. That's probably going to be confusing yet again. Because this has some things in common with matches them today in the matches we've been talking about other things not in common right. The slow match was essentially a slow burning cord or twine fuse Early Musketeers and soldiers used to ignite early firearms and cannons to put it in pirate terms for everybody to because this may ring a bell the legendary pirate Edward blackbeard teach who lives sixteen eighty to seventeen. Eighteen is said to have twisted slow matches under his hat like in his hair and then they'd be lit on both sides to frighten his enemies slash victims. So when you hear the phrase slow match you need to think fuse it. It is like a rope like object that has been made to burn slowly and beyond. That's the other thing when you think fuse don't think a fire cracker fuse like you have probably some some experience with today like cartoon fuse whereas just zipping around really quickly and there's just a faster transfer of that spark to the explosive explosive. No this would be a slow smouldering string twine cord type objects. Yeah so yeah. Generally you're talking about some rope or cord. Awards soaked in potassium nitrate which is a key constituent of gun powder and then it would be dried. You'd light it. You'd you'd blow out the flame but then a red imber. We continue you to burn and work. Its way down the court so really if you if you think of a fuse Like a fire cracker fuse without all the sparking. Anything about going really slowly. That's essentially clue what's happening very similar thing actually to the carrying of the coal in the In the birchbark container. It's something to keep a low fire smoldering for a long period of time that can be used to reignite something else quickly. Yeah basically getting that fire into a state of suspended animation words there when you need it but it's also you're not just like carrying around a big flaming torch especially if you're having to deal with gunpowder though as we'll discuss in a minute it didn't come without dangers. Yes so another another place. Some of you may have seen this as you would. You would typically find the slow match physically attached to a weapon such as a musket or clipped to the match lock mechanism of a match. Lock Weapon Yes for a really great recent media example. If you've seen the two thousand fifteen horror movie the witch directed by Robert Eggers There is a scene in the movie. Were actually throughout the movie The characters carry around Musket and it is a match lock Musket. There's a scene where the father played by okay Ralph Ellison is trying to hunt. He's trying to shoot a rabbit And you can see it. Has This long tail of chords sticking out of it. Sometimes the carry area the cord sort of wrapped around it looks like clete of some kind on the stock and in the scene where he tries to hunt a rabbit. You can watch him going through these kind of Tedious dangerous laborious steps of like pouring out the powder packing it getting the slow match lit and blowing on it to make it smolder and then clipping it into the hook like it. It looks like it would be very difficult weapon to use and in one sense it is like but you might wonder watching all of this laborious stuff why was the match lock. Musket actually an invention. What would this be an improvement over So I was reading about this. Apparently previously gunpowder based weapons would usually have to be lit by hand. So try to imagine that like in the moment the gunner would have to carefully set fire to to the priming powder which was in the small receptacle called the Flash Pan and they would have to do that by hand and then of course the ignition of the powder in the flash PAN would intern set off the main charge inside the barrel and then propelled the ball out toward the target. But just imagine trying to do this. Aim a weapon at a target while you're trying to carefully fully flight the Flash Pan by hand. Yeah I mean it. It seems borderline impossible and generally weapons before this period. We're not hand-held you'd be talking about cannons as you know the mounted artillery and stuff But the Musket was something that you wanted to be able to hold in your hands and aim and the match lock provided a huge advantage each year by freeing the musket carrier's hands to hold an aim the weapon so here after you pack the weapons so you put the powder for the main charge down the barrel you'd pack the ball in you smash it down with the stick and then what you would do is set the end of the slow match. This fused like cord. You'd set the end of that burning you'd blow on it and get smoldering and then you clip the burning end of the slow match into a little metal arm called Serpentine and then you put the powder and the Flash Pan and after you've done all that you could aim the weapon and pull the trigger. And what would happen when you pull. The trigger is that the metal serpentine would automatically lower the smoldering slow match down into the Flash Pan to ignite the charge and this was a big improvement over the handwriting of the powder As you can probably tell from the description it still going to be very slow firing laborious. It could still be dangerous because you'd probably be like trying to manage a burning earning slow match as you're like pouring powder into various parts of the gun So th there are several drawbacks of course to the match. Lock Musket Number One. You would have some. I'm kind of giveaways to the enemy right. So you're trying to line up to shoot at night right you'd be having to light these fires and have the slow match burning. You would be able to smell it and then of course there's the danger of this smoldering thing next stole this powder you're juggling around. This makes me wonder you know all these various First Person Shooter Video Games. He often often devote a great deal of detail to how guns are loaded and reloaded and brought back into position for firing. But it happens really fast vast. I wonder if if there is a game out there that gives even like a halfway accurate depiction of the use of a of a match luck weapon. Yeah Yeah like a fifteenth century first person shooter where it takes you know at least thirty seconds to load every shot. Yeah that'd be that'd be interesting call of duty game right there. Well I think maybe it it actually could be. I think it would be. It would be interesting. Yeah I mean. There's at least one or two archaic weapons in the Fallout Games. But you know it's all on auto reload you just put freeloading just takes awhile. It would be interesting if there is a game where you you actually had to do this maneuver with one joystick and another with the the other joystick and whereas so that actually reloading this weapon required a more of a cognitive responsibility on the part of the player. And if you screw up all your reloading it literally explodes in your face and kills you and then but so there's a funny thing here where the progression of the firing mechanism in In gun technology technology actually goes kind of opposite of what we've been talking about in the progress of of fire lighting in matches. Because you go in history from the match lock Musket to the Flint Lock Musket and the Flint. Lock was said to be an improvement. Because you didn't have to have a fire lit there instead. You just have the powder in your flash pan. Dan and it would be ignited by the striking of the flint. That happens when you release the hammer interesting now. Of course that has its own problems for the flint lock. I think there was a greater chance of the weapon misfiring. Maybe you don't get a good spark or something but anyway I thought that was interesting context for the idea of the match. You know when you think about the way it works works with the weapon is. It's there to be a fire. That's ready whenever you need it. Yeah and this is really. I mean this is key to so many technologies right. I mean again coming back to even the the hot water heater in household. You know it's how do you make sure the fire is there when you need it but in a safe way in a way that it is not going to endanger body so as far as matches the match lauck and the slow match basically with Neon Rights that the match natch was just a you know basically with with more of a modern matches just a way of having a fire ready for you when you need it and so it's quite reasonable transfer of names ames here to talk about the wooden match with the legacy of the slow match. Yeah I I think that's great because ultimately what we're going to get to with the friction matches that you don't don't need to have a fire burning at all and yet it's still ready the moment you need it right and it's going to be a little bit more like the the the flint locks in here just talking about so so we discussed in the last episode. How humans have spent a Lotta time poking around in the fire and using fire among other means to understand the nature of various substances? And that's eventually they essentially how we got to the notion of using sulfur or potassium nitrate even though these substances. We figured out how to In some cases refine them and then what happens when you add fire to them. Well they spark or they explode or they they they they catch fire more readily than other substances and they can ultimately like sulfur. can If coating the end of a little stick can make that stick a better Fuel to use for transferring flame from one point to another now the flame bringing power our sulfur as we know goes back way into the ancient world that was known about by the ancient Chinese by the ancient Romans but there are going to be new chemicals coming online on line that may serve this job even better yes. Humans began to uncover new substances such as is even new elements such as phosphorus which in the seventeenth century became the first new element not known since ancient times and some arguments have been made for other chemists southern discoveries having been Eban taken place earlier around the same time but credit is typically given to the German alchemist hitting brand in sixteen sixty nine now a quick note on Alchemy alchemy which is a rich topic unto itself. But we're largely dealing with a proto scientific mixture of chemical research and a Colt magic the continuation relation of mystery traditions etc.. I love the period of Alchemy. It's so culturally and historically interesting especially when you're thinking about about the history of science because it is time win. In some cases real knowledge is advancing right alongside what people believed were equivalent advances in knowledge about like Demon -nology and how you know how to do spells At the same time that people really are learning things about say Chemistry in the curing of certain diseases. Yeah like for instance in bronze case he was seeking the legendary philosopher's stone. Now this is a substance of said to have miraculous powers it was capable of transforming metals into Do other metals. This is the lead into gold scenario but it could also provide immortality. That's why it factors into a Harry Potter novel for instance but Braun decided saw in your in your distilling it down to a wide material that glowed in the dark and this was phosphorus miraculous lessor miraculous bearer of light. Who would have known that P P was so illuminating? Indeed it was all right. We're GONNA take a quick break when we come back. We we will return to the mysteries of the Iran. We will talk about phosphorus Ever been knocked down. You know suffered a setback. Fired left out it happens. It happens a Mike. Bloomberg middle class kid worked his way through college. I got a job started a family boom fired at thirty nine. What did Mike do us? Do we got backup dove back in. He had an idea designing new computer able to crunch data and process information in a unique way he built it he sold it. He built more. He sold more. He built a team. You built a company when He created twenty thousand jobs. Bloomberg is a doer. This is Michael. Douglas I played a president movies. This is real world. This is Our World Mike Bloomberg has takes to win unite the country find some common ground between Democrats Republicans and then lead the way a leadership leadership Mike. We'll get it. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate for president. How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's Mike Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid worked his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news and information in business from scratch mayor of diverse progressive city. Mike Bloomberg rebuilt after nine eleven. Creating nearly five hundred thousand jobs improving healthcare and in public schools. Now he's running for president and all right we're back so as one might expect given its alchemy. ICAL origins phosphorus. This was a secret I who was traded and it was sold but eventually it became known beyond these chambers of secret. It's most impressive attribute. Is that it instantly elite combust in air making it a nasty element in many ways and we see we see this today. With the use of white phosphorus munitions which popped up in the twentieth century and then they are still used today by some military's despite the fact that this and other incendiary weapons have been banned by multiple international national laws. White Phosphorus munitions can produce additional like terrible burns the burning particles as well as harmful favors. Verse Yeah I was reading an article about this Reuters from two thousand nine because I'd tried to sort this out before it's sort of complicated confusing. Because phosphorus I baste incendiaries have both legal and illegal uses wore these days And that can lead to you know arguments about specific uses so white phosphorus. Today it would be used as a munition is this colorless or sometimes kind of yellow waxy substance. I I've read the this. This Reuters article mentioned that it sometimes smells like garlic. I did not know that But that it ignites in the air Very easily temperatures of something like thirty degrees Celsius or about eighty six degrees Fahrenheit and it can be very hard to put out once it's ignited But apparently common uses of white phosphorus prosperous in addition to just being direct. Incendiary weapon are in like tracer ammunition so to help see where where the line of fire is going right if anyone's ever watched any of those old war to World War Two cockpit footage of Of of of machine gun fire. You're seeing the tracers though the lights that mark which direction the the bullets are going Another common us for it apparently is in marketing targets. which would mean you know? So you need some kind of target flare so you're trying to aim artillery or something like that you can mark the target on the ground that you're trying to hit with white phosphorus And then finally to create smokescreens which would be full in hiding the maneuver of friendly troops. Yeah so basically comes down to how are you using it or using it at to illuminate or using it to obscure more. Are you using it in a way. That is either intentionally or ordinarily intentionally Incendiary against human beings or your human infrastructure using it to burn people and buildings right that does seem to be the main difference of the uses. I mentioned have been more generally permitted it'd but it is against international law to use white phosphorus as an incendiary weapon especially against civilians or an areas. Where civilians are clustered? Yeah and this this. I think think leads to disputes. Because they're like these controversial uses where the forces who used said well we were using it for one of these permitted reasons in their critics. Say No you you were using it as an incendiary weapon. Yeah Yeah I remember I grew up in house. So where we we you know. We talked a lot about military technology. And and my my dad always they always stressed the just horrible -ness of incendiary weapons so just the flame thrower which video game can look pretty cool until you think about what a flame thrower actually is the what a horrible weapon it is and likewise phosphorus remember him telling me that like if you if you would have particles of phosphorus in your skin they would have to immerse your your like your arm in water than to remove it Thus negating the the flair ability avenue when it's exposed to oxygen or free atmospheric oxygen. Yeah that goes a everything. I've read about phosphorus. Direct weapon is just a total nightmare nightmare but all this would come later. We're fast forwarding a little bit with the phosphorus weapons because it I phosphorus when I crept out of the alchemists workshop. It was one of these substances that clearly had a lot of potential. And you didn't have to be a war pig to see it because no no surely. This is an element that would enable one to produce instant fire. Because that's what it does if combust in the air itself. Yeah what. Eighty something degrees Fahrenheit him in the. That's that's unusual. Yeah like even in. Yeah I mean because we're talking about even like in a cold environment with minimal friction. He would be able to to reach that point however it would take a good one hundred and fifty years after its discovery. Goverry For us to see really the the beginnings of of actual technology that utilized it and this would be the pyro phosphorus fire carrier that came around. This was neck explains was quote a sealed glass ampoule containing a finely divided. pyro for at powder powder free of phosphorus which ignited spontaneously when the tube was broken and the contents scattered and he has the power for power's are chemicals in finely powdered altered and reactive state which catch fire on exposure to air So yeah so you'd have sealed capsule that you would rupture in order to either combine things or just just exposed to the air and instantly create a flame which I don't know that version of the of the instant strike alight sounds a little scarier than the normal match yeah. I was reading about a few really terrifying versions of this technology. They rolled out early on so one was a villain Holmberg. Berg created a mixture that could be sprinkled under dry cotton which would cause it to catch. Fire Okay then Robert Hair live seventy and eighty one to eighteen. Fifty eight had a version version That again entailed a sealed glass tube but another. I think the scariest one is known as Roseling Z- pyro forest and I couldn't find any information on who roseling is in this scenario what their first name was Cetera but the description I ran across. Is that it was the the powder was packed on top of tobacco in pipe. And you ignited it by sucking air through it. I think rose lingers uncle of mollusc now now another one that comes up is the phosphoric taper or the ethereal match and this is a sealed glass tube with wax paper and phosphorus incited. You'd break like the tube. According to his net quote with the aid of the teeth or otherwise I've read about these yes and withdrawal. The phosphorus impregnated taper into the air. These were indeed and not only. Were these dangerous but they were also pricey so ultimately you have technology this just not practical for everyday use for for for two huge reasons. It costs too much and you might blow your face off. Yeah I think I've read about at least a couple of matches along these lines. That were like some kind kind of glass container that you were. The most people would rupture with their teeth and that would start the fire. Yeah Yeah even without things blowing up. You're breaking glass cylinder career with your teeth. It's just that alone gives me all over us. Now there were some other advancements made in fire creation technology that are worth At least a touching on on one came from Johann Wolfgang Dover Reiner who lives seventeen eighty eighteen forty nine. He was German chemist who in eighteen twenty three created What some dubbed? The first lighter. The dogo Reiner's lamp which Also known as a hydrogen lighter hydrogen produced from zinc passes passes through a jet with sulfuric acid over spongy platinum on a platinum wire. The gas ignites producing flame. So the sponge here catalyzes a reaction reaction with oxygen heats the catalyst igniting the hydrogen this. I've seen pictures of it. Does it looks kind of like a I mean. It looks like a lamp. If you were just solid sitting on a shelf in an antique store you might think it looks kind of neat you might not realize what it is. But he's apparently had a good hundred year run as being being a good way of producing flame. Yeah if I were just looking at this I would not gas. It was something that produced flame. I would guess that it was a lamp or some kind some the carried. Yeah Yeah just. At first glance it just looks like a lamp another five technology innovation at the time. Mentioning is the pneumatic tinderbox. Also known as a light syringe. A Fire Piston. Wow now it depended on the rapid stroke of a piston to generate Heat to ignite tinder and interestingly enough. This is one of these inventions that that emerged in Europe around that time but essentially was a much older southeast East Asian invention which is to say that the technique certainly shows up there. I hundreds of years earlier but it's unclear. If and to what extent this directly influenced European fire Pistons. Or it's just you know much later Europeans got around to it through other technological roundabouts. You know one thing. I'm really picking up on from these past couple of episodes is the general impression that fire creation technology gets around fast. uh-huh yeah I mean basically comes down to the fact that any human culture is is going to need it like it is such an important part of of the human experience like you need to be able to create fire and so it's a new kind of match like that that's going to spread if it's a new element you're only gonNA be able to keep that a secret for so long because the potential there is just too high all right so we've talked about chemicals elements friction. I think you can see where this is going. Maybe we need to take a break in the we come back. We can talk about the invention of the friction match. Remember how the fourteen year old version of yourself felt. 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Where something more or less like the modern matches possible right so the invention of the friction match the match that you liked by striking across the surface is often credited to a single individual? A British chemist named John Walker. who lived lived in the nineteenth century in a town called Stockton on tees which is in county? Durham up in northern England. Now I've come across a few sort of conflicting claims of primacy though Mo- most sources cite Walker but for example there is a nineteen twenty two dictionary of applied chemistry written by the prolific British chemists. Sir Thomas Edward Thorpe and it claims quote in eighteen sixteen friction matches tipped with a composition containing phosphorus are stated to have been manufactured in Paris by Francois Garrone who by gentle and others is regarded as the first maker of the phosphorus friction match. But I'm not sure exactly what to do with claims like this because pretty much all modern sources I can find. Give the credit to Walker The Walker wouldn't create his invention until later in in the eighteen twenties so this precedes Walker by. At least ten years inthorp himself does claim that Walker invented the first quote practical and useful all matches ignited by friction. So I guess he's saying that maybe that according to Thorpe at least somebody else in France created a friction match earlier but but it was not practical and useful enough to count and that kind of raises a general question like when we give somebody credit for an invention. How impractical does version of an invention need before? It doesn't count it all right right and we discussed this a little bit. We just this time and time again on the show really but it came up when we're or discussing cocktails with with Jeff Beachfront Berry like if one thing to be able to make the cocktail in your kitchen and other to be able to serve it. It's one thing to be able to create something like a match in your workshop but to produce it on scale to be able to actually get it out. There is a dependable way of sparking aflame yen and Thorpe doesn't really go into more detail so I don't know what exactly was so impracticable about Francois Mitterrand's friction match but it sounds like it. It didn't work very well often. or at least according to Thorpe's Diagnosis here So so here. We're left with John Walker. He's the one who almost always gets the credit he was born in seventeen. Eighty one I was reading a blog post about him by Andrew Haines for the Pharmaceutical Journal and it described Walker's father as a grocer draper and a druggist. I just a lot of jobs. John was the third son in the family and originally he was on the road to become a surgeon which was of course a very exciting road to occupy coupon at this time and place you know late eighteenth century England. He's probably pretty close to the medical colleges of Scotland CR episodes about the casket from from last October. If you want more wonderful medical mischief of that time and place So he served an apprenticeship with the town's head surgeon and he was eventually appointed an assistant surgeon in the town but John Walker had a bit of a problem with this career path. He was reportedly quite squeamish and he could not stomach the sight of blood and all those gaping holes in human bodies and ultimately this led him to quit his career path and say I just can't do surgery. Well that's understandable that would have been a tough tough hurdle to get over especially at that time. Yeah so he reversed course. He left surgery behind and he went back to study pharmacy in Durham And in York and after he completed aided education in pharmacy He moved back home and in eighteen. Nineteen he opened his own. Whatever you WANNA call it for this period and apothecary pharmacy shop That kind of business in Stockton on tees his hometown so friction matches are another one of these inventions. That is at least alleged to to have been partially discovered by accident. So how did this work John Walker already had an interest in fire production and impractical chemistry and sometime in the eighteen twenties he started creating and selling a mixture of potassium chlorate and antimony sulfide bound on together with gum Arabic and he called this flammable product percussion powder so he's already making a flammable mixture. The on a regular Taylor basis and selling it in his drum shop but one day in eighteen twenty six John Walker was preparing a mixture of the percussion powder and while mixing chemicals together other. He used a little wooden stick to stir them which of course became coated at one end. In this lighting fluid and the story goes that he happened to scrape this stick across the rough stone of his hearth and then the chemical coded part burst into flames now. This is the kind of accidental discovery that could if situations were were were just right or just wrong enough perhaps it could. Well be the last discovery you make. It could be a really really final. Eureka moment Yeah E. say if it was too close to the rest of his powder big massive there or something but Walker immediately knew that he had important new product on hand. One that could I usually produce fire from no original fire with little effort and it was very portable to boot so on April seventh. Eighteen twenty-seven we know from his diaries diaries. That was the day he began selling these early strike matches in his pharmacy under the name. Friction lights now. The ones he sold were made by hand hand out of cardboard and later little wooden splints I read that. He apparently hired people from the town to just sit around cutting up. Tiny little wooden splints blends for him and then they would coat the ends of them in potassium chloride antimony sulfide Bound together with gum Arabic. And he sold the friction lights with a piece of glass paper or sandpaper. And the instructions were to fold the sandpaper over the head of the match. And then pull the stick out sharply Now the sandpaper in this case case did not have any special chemical properties of its own. It was just regular sandpaper. It was just there to be a very rough surface to provide the the heat from the friction when striking because there's not necessarily going to be a brick on hand to strike it off right and the friction would ignite the dried paste. And then you would have your flame but walker or did not acquire a patent on his process and this turned out the worst for him within just a few years other producers in almost immediately swooped swooped in began selling copycats Some of the best known friction like copycats were produced by a Samuel Jones of London and these friction matches ashes were known at the time as Lucifer's apparently they had more Not just the antimony sulfide but they had more direct sulphur content they might have just been sulfur dipped and and the name Lucifer has something to do with the fact that they were. Sulfur dipped as from the sulphurous smell. That would be released when you ignite and also it would smell like the fires. As of Hell match the brimstone tenders and then there were other copycats also who were soon on the market Thorpe mentioned sulfur dipped competitors sold sold in London by Jones. Competitors Jeff Watts and by Richard Bell and company which sold their has improved Lucifer's improved Lucifer's that sounds like a redemption ark for the for the fallen angel. Yeah apparently John Walker himself was not a fan of the name Lucifer's he didn't like it. I don't know if that was if that was him being precious about his invention or if he was a pious man or what interesting But for some reason he wasn't into that that it also is kind of a clunky name right. It's one thing to say. Hey do you have a light. Do you have a match. Excuse me so do you have any Lucifer's on your person. I mean that's why go with the three syllables. When all you need is one just call them devils? Yeah Devil would work again just a light a match like the rolls off the tongue. A lot easier has thou prince of darkness in my pocket. Do you have a spare Bielsa Bob. Despair with me a MEPHISTOPHELES. Perhaps so yeah I mean once you get into a bunch of funky devil names easier just to go back to light. So I've got a really funny but wait. That does remind me. Of course the other part of the name is Lucifer. Means bringer of light. Of course it does so it is a great name. It's a double. Yeah I'd also a little clunky yeah So th there's a great addendum to the story of. It just happened to come across so in the English town of stockton-on-tees this town in northern England that John Walker is from where the friction match was invented. There is a statue I choose to honor John Walker. It was erected in nineteen seventy seven. which would have been the one hundred fiftieth anniversary of the first year that he sold the matches we'd remember member that was eighteen twenty-seven but there's a twist I was reading about in In The Times of London apparently in nineteen ninety the borough oh council of stockton-on-tees found out that the town statue of John Walker was based on the likeness of the wrong John Walker. Now it had been made aid from an etching of a London actor named John Walker who never invented anything as far as we know never even visited Stockton on tees and after they found this out they kept it a secret until just a few years ago. There was some newspaper articles that came out about it. It would be like if you know a centuries stories from now someone decided to to to create a statute to honor the physicist Brian Cox and but instead of the dashing shing scientists they found an image of the perhaps less dashing but certainly charismatic our Brian. You how dare you speak. Ezekiel of the actor Brian Cole. Younger years I imagine he was. He was more dashing but generally he is. I would say he is is more of a severe look To modern audiences people who know him from like manhunter on in fact that may be the earliest film. I can remember seeing with With with him in it I really don't have any familiarity with the younger Brian. Cock he's got a small role in the early seventies film. Nicholas and Alexandra. About the last family the Romanovs in which he plays plays Trotsky. Yeah is he recognizable. I don't know it's been a long time since I saw the movie. But but he he. He's in there all right. Yeah I just mainly associated with A. There's some bear of a man with a very haggard look invoice very different from the physicist. So did they back to the the statue of John Walker. Did they fix it does it did they. I haven't read about six. I don't know I do not know the resolution of this story. I just know it was the wrong guy I mean. I guess when you're dealing with historical figures of of this caliber I mean what does it matter. I mean at at least we're remembering their name and their accomplishments even if we essentially have an actor playing them in the statue what if that statue of Robocop in Detroit was based on the wrong long robocop. Oh now that would be blasphemous. Yeah like like the ROBOCOP. Three ROBOCOP was it. Wait was a different actor in robocup three. I'm sure it was or the robocop the TV show robocop. He would not be the same. or The reboot robocop. Oh that would be the worst That was not good Hackett. I haven't seen it. Well actually. Actually it was one of those movies. I I had complex thoughts about it. It felt like a movie that might have been a better movie in an earlier. Draft of the script gripped but the script has been rewritten to make it worse that that was my intuition. Okay that sounds about right back to two matches. You're talking talking about the the use of the sandpaper folding it over. This brings back so many memories of of using matches as a kid and and sort of getting comfortable with them because match especially. If you're told to be careful with matches enough it can be intimidating to strike one sure especially if you're using the little cardboard matches matches that are in the little cardboard Foley apparatus those you sometimes have to get your fingernails rather close Perhaps uncomfortably close to to the tip of the match to do the strike. And they have to sort of backtrack really quickly and it might get a little warm on the tips of your fingers. And sometimes you're tempted to do the fold holdover method which can result in just destroying a match because you might be a pinching it to pull the head off. Yeah you pulled the head off or it's just there's there's kind of like taste and then it's gone. Yeah funny enough. I know the exact minute mechanical complaint. You're talking about and likewise. Sometimes you'd have like the big box awesome matches like a proper fireplace box of matches and you would use it so much. The strike plate would be a the sandpaper area would be worn down. We couldn't even affectively strike anything anymore and and then there were people have various tricks to right. I mean you see people who could do the finger fingernail Striking of the match or use it. A belt buckle or brick or something. I never had any luck with any extracurricular striking. That's like pony boy in Dalley. Kennedy's staff plus thinking like you fingernail. That always seemed a little dangerous. Like couldn't you risk getting a little like match head up underneath your fingernail. That just doesn't unpleasant real tough to care about this probably so still. It beats biting through a glass cylinder right. A one hundred percent agree all right so I think we have to call this episode there. But we're going to be back for one. More part of her exploration of matches next time where where we will explore more of the role of phosphorus and match manufacturing and the safety match. 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"There's crispy and then there's crispy try our new and improved Tyson crispy chicken strips crispy just got crispy partner up. But I'm my national drink. Wine Day Tony. Will you be enjoying following tonight? I'm Tony Kornheiser. In addition to the two I just had. Is that what you're asking me? I'm worried about you know I'm GONNA be fine. I would like to tell people if they want to send wine to me not not asking for what they do. I prefer red wine. I am not my. I'm not a big white wine. God He don't drink white wine in the summer. Yeah it's it's rare. I'd much prefer. Red Wine are got you. Yeah just in case. Listen homes yeah welcome. Pti boys and girls in today's episode. Joe Borough sounds again. The on the Bengals Nick. Marcus says the Astros need a beating and Roy Williams Roy. Drops have bob but we begin today with drew brees announcing on instagram. That he intends to come back and play for the saints in Two Thousand. Twenty breeze led the NFL. Completion percentage last year and became the league's all time leader in touchdown passes but he got hurt early. He only played in eleven games. Indiana POOR PLAYOFF LOSS TO MINNESOTA wilpon. What does breeze coming back for the saints and for Teddy Bridgewater and for Tesa Hill? Well in order Tony. It means the saints breezes healthy or automatic serious contenders. Yes we can just. We could just fast forward to that. Right yes For Teddy Bridgewater. It means he in his physical prime of his career probably ought to find someplace else to play unless breezes whispering in his ear. I'll do one more stick around for Taste Hill. If Bridgewater goes elsewhere it I think he should hill moves up to two. On the depth chart one would presume though not automatically so in New Orleans. So that's that's how I sort of see all this unfolding can't can't possibly disagree with any of that. You're a contender immediately. If you have drew brees I don't care if you got to be a playoff in recent years. Nfl officials have taken away more games from the saints than the saints have given way to somebody else. They always find a way to lose in some sort of a bad call. There's probably a notion out there. Mike that the saints need to sort of prepare for a transition down the road. But if you're a good team and you have to breeze you WANNA win now. You're not worried about who years from now. It's holy good teams. That can say I can win right now and brees gives you that. I honestly I never thought he was going to retire. Because he'd had your. Yeah somebody told you. During the Super Bowl Week Iran Terry Bradshaw and Bradshaw knows something about Super Bowl and playing as you get older and teary just listen to me. This zero chance drew brees retire coming off that that told you that day. I believe during Bradshaw these right I agree with it. Totally agree with everybody and everybody. I mean everybody. In the whole wide world seems to want Joe Borough to flex his muscles and go anywhere but Cincinnati. All kinds of former bengals are weighing in reminding borough that the bengals usually a mess burl told the Fort Worth Star telegram quote. I do have leverage and said quote if the bengals selected me they select me close quote. Meanwhile burrows mom said. The family has no idea with a sentiment. The borough doesn't WanNA play for Cincinnati's coming. So what are you reading into all of this? Well I mean. I know that his dad has already said that. If Joe is selected by Cincinnati he'll be happy to play for when his mom says. I don't know where it's coming from. It's coming from you boy. I've not yet heard Joe. Borough say I'm a proud son of Ohio. I WANNA play for Cincinnati they draft. I haven't heard that this is what I've heard. Is they have a process. And I have a process I have not heard anything from Joe Borough that definitively says I wanNA play for Cincinnati. Look like there are two choices. Here he can stand up that he can say the spirit of John. Elway and Manning. I'm out playing here. Don't draft me get rid of me. Trade my rights. Or if he doesn't do that and they draft him he can go play but there's no door number three here Mike. There's no door number three Tony. I think this is a totally made up story. I've also not heard him say he wants to go anywhere else. That's right and by the way the kid is not obliged to give his leverage Washington go up there and declare his undying love to Cincinnati. Now he maintains some leverage. If down the road he wants to exercise it what he hasn't done that so far. This is not the hell out of me. What is his leverage? He is leverage. Is I'm the best player in the draft right. Talk to me when we get there not on Valentine's Day. He doesn't need to declare that now. Well I just think that the story is being fueled by the fact that he knows. He's the number one overall pick those Cincinnati needs a quarterback and he hasn't pledged himself to legend self. Is that what? We're talking about the being having plantation mentality really needs to pledge himself like he's an eleven year old boy scout. Come on tone what he can do if he wants is say you know what pick somebody else? 'cause I'm not playing for you. We not there. Why should he go there if you didn't feel that way? Everybody wants to tell this kid how he should feel stop. Just listen up. Listen to what he's saying. Not What people are conjuring or reading into it. Well you asked me what are you reading into it because want to it. How about reading into it was. Am thing it was hooked me now. It's turned Asu reaction to the Astros Chidi. What are you reading into this reaction to the Astros cheating scandal continues to inflame nick mark acres of the Atlanta? Braves said this morning quote. I feel like every single guy over there needs a feeding unquote. He also said of Commissioner Rob Manfred quote the way he handled the situation. He should be embarrassed with himself. Unquote this echoes a comment by dodgers. Third Baseman Justin Turner the other day that man for this quote out of touch with the players in this game unquote not to mention what trevor? Bauer says every five minutes but rob Manfred trained. Labor lawyer has explained that suspending players will not fly under baseball's labor agreement. We'll bunch Manford take any kind of further action or should he just hope it just blows over Tony. I think you and I were wrong yesterday. Like Rob Man for you and I were wrong. We said that that was the way to go to protect the Astros. Because you're dealing with serious injury or the possibility of it with Being Baltimore's is it. Yeah I think they should be hitting the head Tony. We miscalculated because the temperature out there. We didn't accurately take the temperature of players around the majors particularly in the American league. Who basically want the astros excommunicated? Now I UNDERSTAND ROB. Manfred understands that as a labor lawyer this would never pass a test to the players. Themselves have negotiate but Tony. He is going to have to come out stronger. He's going to have to reprimand them and take them apart. Take them to the woodshed publicly. He's going to have to go further then he's gone because he's players. Tony. They're sincere about this. Aaron judge is basically come out now and said the same thing. He's taken down congratulatory tweets. It's a hell of a thing and Manfred is going to have to reassess what I find interesting. Here is the position of the Major League Baseball Players Association because on one hand they represent all the players some of those players of the Astros so they represent the Astros and then then they represent the nick. Mark Cake isn't just in terms of the world who are against the Astros. That's a difficult for them to walk. I agree with you that Rob. Manfred has miscalculated. He's miscalculated players anger though. I generally support what he's done. He's miscalculated players anger and it begins with Jim Crane. What amazes me is that they didn't have a crisis management team to go to Jim Crane and script exactly what he said yes. Jim Crane blue. This whole thing up and if I'm Manford I'm so angry. I suspend him for at least one year right now because I don't know what to do with the players Joel. Sherman at the New York Post had a whole series of things that might happen. Some of which are interesting. Like don't let any international signings for about three years. I I'm like you. I think something has to be done. I'm not sure I'm not sure what has to be done. You can't take away the trophy because you'll let the with some want you to turn the losing continues at a place where we never suspected it would Chapel Hill North Carolina. The Tar heels lost their sixth straight. Last night Roy Williams lost it like. We've never seen them do so publicly. Let's listen you got two choices you can. You can compete your but offer you can get up fetal position and curl up and start crying. I'm not gonNA freaking do that. We're going to apologize. Everybody everybody everybody. We're going to compete. And that's what we're going to do with the We play Saturday. You can feel sorry for yourself and you feel sorry for yourself and you're going to do that to rest here for life and I apologize. I usually don't know I don't know what I'm doing right now when Tony all Roy has a body of work to stretches decades full sympathetic behavior. You're GonNa cut him some slack here okay. So what he said ultimately was. I don't know what I'm doing here and we've seen this all year Roy. Williams is looking at a situation that he has never faced in his life and ultimately when we see him after games. I wrote the words down. Sometimes he seems baffled sometimes. He seems amazed and most of the time. He seems incredulous because the University of North Carolina. The University of Dean Smith University of Michael Jordan is ten in sixteen and like I. I'm an old man. The gold standard in college basketball over the course of my life is North Carolina do Cassatt Slums Kentucky us out slumps Kansas. Everybody's had some UCLA head slumps North Carolina. They've had one losing season in fifty eight years under Matt. Doherty not under Roy not under dealing in that amount of time. This is amazing to me that they are ten and sixteen. It's amazing to me too. We saw something uncharacteristic of Mike Chef ski something. He said to his own students one night fairly recently and Tony. I look at the pressures that operate on. People like Mike Elroy who all we do is win all they do is contend seriously championships and I just think as they get older. I think the pressures operate on them in different ways they are encountering things they never encountered before and Roy Williams bodywork. You always talk about context. Yeah if you think I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE ROY. A COMPLETE. Sueur azure complete. Pass you just like I told you. Might she shefty had that happen. They were all kinds of other things in play there that are going on in college basketball. They may have nothing to do with his rant that night. I mean I feel listen I feel for for Roy and I mean you know Roy personally a little bit. I feel for him. It doesn't mean that he can just go crazy every night. But this is understandable to me and I don't even know if it's the last time we're gonNA talk about. He's never had a losing season. He's going to have a losing season. They produced pros. They got fourteen players in the NBA. It's it's an amazing thing to all of us. Let's take a break coming up now. The drew brees is staying put. Is Tom Brady? Matthew Stop it more likely to play for new team next season. We're going to get that Tom. Brady moving thing in the show. And a rematch is on Saturday. Who's the more compelling five wilder or fury you know what would healthy? Astros savory cheated used the word we cheated. How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's my Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid worked his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news and information business from scratch mayor of a diverse progressive city. My Bloomberg rebuilt after nine eleven. Creating nearly five hundred thousand jobs improving healthcare and public schools. Now he's running for president and Mike's Change. We need from chaos to steady leadership from lies to someone who believes in facts and data from divisiveness to someone who builds teams nurtures good ideas and hold himself accountable for results. Mike Bloomberg knows how to lead to build to deliver to do kill win and unite this country. Mike we'll get things done. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate for president. And I approve this message because we need to deliver on the promise of the American Dream. Paid for by Mike Bloomberg Twenty twenty. It's time for toss up. The game of choice is my answer and the wrong answer. What's I toss up more likely to play for a new team this season? Tom Brady or Matthew Stafford so this has been bubbling up recently that somehow the lions want to get rid of Matthew Stafford in one of these mock draft things. Mel Kiper is saying that the lions are going to take to to let me just state for the record that if the Lions get rid of Matthew Stafford. They're insane. They were owing eight last year without Matthew Stafford. I don't think either of these guys is going anywhere. I don't but I would be less surprised Mike if Brady one somewhere else. They talk about the raiders and they talk about the chargers and maybe the titans all in the AFC again. I think both are staying but you crazy to get rid of Stafford. I know my friend of one. Hundred Years Larry Fitzgerald Senior has reported that the raiders are ready to pony up some money for Brady. It doesn't mean Brady's GonNa want to try and go play there so Tony I think Stafford because Detroit Stupid. You know what all the time right. All the time they make stupid moves and they lose players like mega tron and Berry Sanders stupid earlier. Then they should study. The answer is Stafford next. Toss up more likely to get upset tonight. Number one baylor were number five Dayton so my friend Mike and your friend Jimmy. Cruelly went to date and he's scared of tonight's game at vcu because Dayton has lost the last three times at vcu. Now I'm GonNa go to the glasses here because I want to be right. Dayton's won fourteen games in a row but vcu is thirteen and two at home. Baylor has won twenty two in a row and if they beat Oklahoma. That's twenty three straight twenty three straight a big twelve games. You know what I think. They might look past Oklahoma. 'cause they got Kansas next cases can go mike. That's where I'm going. This is that season. Tony it doesn't matter what your ranked. It doesn't matter who you're playing. It doesn't matter how rarely you've been ranked over. It's really cool to see Dayton up there right now. You know that. That goes back a midwestern school of my youth to some degree. I'm happy to see Dayton. Nair Tony I think they've both could and very likely we'll go down. I go back to Dayton with donny made. That's like fifty years ago so long. Next toss up. They fight on Saturday. Who's the more compelling fighter deontay Wilder Tyson Fury? So let's just step back for a second on this and look at these names wilder and fury. How great is that for? Boxers Wilder and theory. They're vastly different fighters. They looked so different. Wilders totally sculpted and throws bombs like just real haymakers the other guy fury is actually sort of flabby and taunts people in the ring. The last fight ended in a draw. Even though fury went down twice I think I'll just take a wild stab at fury being more compelling only because he sells fights well he's a very good interview sometimes goes too far with what he says but he's out there selling all the time. Tony is still this has to do with race in the world. Not Just America fury. Excuse me because we don't see this that often. I know the Klitschkos have been out there for a while. But when you see this. This is historically going back to Jack. Johnson. Yeah I mean. There's only a handful of white heavyweight champions in the in the in the hundred now. What twenty five year. History of the modern heavyweight championship belt. It's so you'll see an icy fury out there. I'm going wow. I can't wait to see this fight. You better stay awake. I will try call. You're on my house. I will wake you up four times. Please call sorry but up that last one toss up. Who looks more G Q in q James Harden or Russell Westbrook's? I'm trying to figure out what it means to look more G. Q. I wonder if it means you will wear clothes in public. That no sane human being whatever where or I wonder if it means you go out in the first round of the playoffs all the time or I wonder if it means are you won't pass the ball to the other guy on your team until there's less than four seconds left in shot clock. I look at you might. I think you are better dressed than all of these people and you don't wear a lot of fringe and they were a lot of fringe. I was never a G. Q. Guy Tried to an Iq guy and failed at that. As well. Tony I might have been the G. Q. Guy Forty years ago now all the fashion magazines. Ninety percent of the time feature edgy. People wearing things like runway models. Never GonNa say now the differences and I'll give them credit for this hardening westbrook will wear it. They'll wear it to the game and so this is not my style of dress. I applaud them. You Know Dwayne Wade can be edgy. But dwayne also be classic and so I tend to go with a D. Wade my man more than Westbrook and but I give them credit for going out there and he loved the way they're Tony. We're to nobody. Outraged walks anywhere without his shirt. Which is don't do that at once. Again Kornheiser four for four. Let's take one break still to come as everyone making too much of your honest saying he'd like to play with his brothers in Milwaukee or l h how impress you be with Marcus. Johnson's sixty four th birthday. I couldn't Doug at sixty four but I couldn't get twenty four so I think it's a big deal. A people happy. Belated sixty four th birthday demarcus Johnson. The actual date was February eighth in honor of his birthday the former Ucla American and five time NBA. All Star decided to dunk unlike Aaron Gordon. Who dunked over Taco full Marcus Johnson? Dunked over to actual tacos which replaced on the ground for this event watching you see Johnson easily. Dunk the ball at sixty four. We still feed me. We'll you still need me when I'm sixty four boom told me that was time between Julius. Erving's fest Larry. Bird establishing himself. When Marcus Johnson was the best four in the game I know wouldn't longtime and I thought he was the anniversary. Nate Robinson on this day fourteen years ago. You want your first of three. Nba Dunk contest with a controversial victory. Over ANDREI WITH DOLLAR ROBINSON. Fourteen attempts before completing his final dunk which prompted changes in the rules future contests. They'd Robinson surprise entering the celebrity game last Friday night he tried to embarrass Wilpon. The wilpon superior coaching thwarted the little man sent him into the Corner. Without Supper woman. What were the keys to defending Robinson? Well ahead common and famous Los up top and I had the age this one horace. My man grant top block native. He decided to come anywhere near the Rim betrayals to the avalanche Colorado went down in overtime last night to the Tampa Bay Lightning. Who collected their eleventh women a row? That's the longest winning streak in franchise history in the longest in the NHL this season after posting the best record league last year the lightning started slowly. This year perhaps still jolted by their first round playoff. Sweep at the hands of the blue jackets but they have risen for the second highest point total in the NHL behind the bruins will on. Are you all in on the Nin? This year Tony. They've been buzzing around for several years. This is not new. Not a big market team. They don't get the attention of say the original six. But they're good franchise except last year in the playoffs early out. Big Finishing Ryan Newman reported to be awakened speaking with doctors go after a scary crash at Daytona. Yesterday your thoughts. There's only one thought good. It looks so much worse gladys sounds like. He's running to cover the athletic sports the Panthers Believe Cam. Newton facets physical Kamarck. Was that mean it? Means they can keep him because he would be healthy or they could trade him and trade. Somebody help but he could play there the Rochester signing Jeff. Green and Maury Carol is that significant versatility and death and no two guys give them Janas till sports pulse that he would love to play with his brothers in Milwaukee or la something or nothing. It's nothing right now. Although when he's a free agent everybody looks at La. All do last one Lsu host number ten Kentucky. We Got Kentucky to get going if they're GONNA make a move. Tonight's that night we're out of time. We will try to be better the next time. And I'm Tony Kornheiser on my wilpon. Same time tomorrow knucklehead get the podcast on the ESPN APP or apple pies.

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Who Will Win?

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Who Will Win?

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The chiefs are just a slight favorite over the niners. Stephen I want honest with you here. Let's finally get your pick for the game on the record. Who is winning on Sunday? First first of all let me let me let me say this. My apologies to Miami. I mean everybody understands why hasn't gone today but I expect Niamey specifically a beat to stand up and represent. Just because I'm not dead. Don't mean it to hold it down you understand you understand. This is super bowl fifty Coming this Sunday represents represents the way you supposed to the way. Let me say this. This has been one of the hardest picks I've ever had to make. It's truly truly a pickup. Because I think Patrick Mahomes is that do and I love love me some tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey not only arguably the best tight end in football but clearly the best decision make it football. y'All talking about the point that I'm trying to make about Travis Kelsey and the Kansas City chiefs is that they are they are lethal. They are something special offensively offensively. I think the forty niners of the more complete team. I think from top to bottom their collection of talent is superior to the top. Six players of the tops of the city are better than anybody. But San Francisco's right. There and there are more complete team. I think they've got the top opt to running attack in football. Kansas City ranks twenty. Sixth gets to run. Obviously they've got the number one pass defense. Kansas City loves to pass. They don't love to run the football. They're two running backs. Haven't even for five hundred yards this year. Even though Damian Williams Shady McCoy can both ball allocate allocated Andy Reid and his coaching. I'm rooting for the man. I would be ecstatic if he wants to be ecstatic. If Travis Kelsey one I really really would the problem ms I got this defense to secondary of San Francisco. I got that front four decades after Patrick Mahomes I believe they will obviously. I don't think the Kansas City's defense is great although vastly improved. It's still not great. The way I look at it it comes down to this Brady and the pats against the New York giants no matter how great New England's offense was the ability to get to Brady compromised. Everything I understand. Patrick Muhoza the different animal but this front four for the San Francisco forty nine is a different beast as well. I think they're the most complete T.. Kansas City he is going to score but when stops are desperately desperately needed. Whether it's one or two I think San Francisco I mean. I could go either way but I think that a more complete team. I'm picking Kansas City to win this game. Something like thirty seven thirty three. This is a pick em style game. No question about it. It's going into the game. I can't remember a better match. The Super Bowl and San Francisco has been wire to wire the best team in the NFL like the Ravens were the flavor of a month or two and everyone thought that maybe they know the niners have been the best team in the NFL. Stephen it you talk about all the layers you have to get to before you get to Jimmy G.. That's because Shanahan's just trying to win games but when Jimmy has been called upon to win games and when San Francisco's had to score especially the New Orleans game with home field in the playoffs. Maybe the reason they are here. They'd have to go to Lambo on the line Jimmy G. made the play that got them there kill but the bottom line was they scored forty something. Don't think points that day there to score orgy and they did it. I'm not worried about San Francisco scoring San Francisco. Who's going to score with them? They should win the Super Bowl. But I'm not going to pick 'em because Patrick Mahomes is different. It's not it's not anything. It's not a lack of faith than I have in. Jimmy tremendous faith in them. What I think of Aaron Rogers in his prime the other side of that they could do everything right? Not just the defense aunt Rogers and he makes a wrong. The other quarterback could do everything right and have herod's but when Rogers had the ball in his hand he could do things the other guy simply couldn't and mahomes can do things. Listen carefully no one. Who ever lived can do? He's Brett Farve with a higher. I Q he's Aaron Rodgers with a little more zip on the ball. He's just just different. Andy's his prime. Now let me say this. The niners are not great at getting to the quarterback on first and second down they are not third down a different story first and second down. Don't get to the quarterback by the way they're not great in the red zone. Patrick is going to be a high scoring super bowl. I don't see the niners stopping mahomes at all the questions. Going to come down to the chiefs. Defense Stop Jimmy G.. I think they can in the moment of truth but even if he comes through Mahomes can take it to a higher level. Kansas City will hold holdout Miami. Kid We get to the break. It down for us who you got. You know two instances in recent history where I can remember you had dynamic offense against a really really good defense one of them. I played in nineteen ninety. Nine the greatest show on turf. Kurt Warner doc is a Bruce Tori. Hope Marshall Faulk. They can't be stopped. We shut them down to twelve points in Tampa in the NFC championship game. And we did it really simple. They said the Tampa two defense was old and antiquated and it can't deliver anymore. You know what we did. We did really simple. We hit them in the mouth and we made them play Football Kansas City. He wants to play basketball on grass. They WANNA be the Golden State Warriors. They WANNA pass and get up and down to Florida up temple game we gotta remember football at its. Core is a collision collision sport. The second time remember the Seattle seahawks against the Denver broncos peyton manning had thrown for seven thousand touchdowns they went into that game. And unstoppable offense who won that Game Max Maxwell when they gave Seattle seahawks won that game because defense still dominate in steel. Wins I'm going with the San Francisco. Forty niners because I think when it's all said it done when it's all said and done you right. Kansas City will move the Footba but I think that defense will make enough stops and I just believe in the system that system of defense and that style of Defense Seattle now in San Francisco and by the way. The city has faced similar defense this year against the chargers advantage. RUN ON CISCO GET HERE ON FITS. They ran the ball. You know who casey just stopped Stephen Nick Chase just Derek battery off the likes of which we've never seen Moore let me respond to that. Max Kellerman. I don't think that's a fair assumption. Because we wanted to be con- Derrick Henry yesterday we didn't want to get into it too much. But we all know he was a one. Man Wrecking crew. Aj Brown has tremendous has promised a tremendous talent. But he's a rookie wide receiver Ryan Tannehill just decided to show up and be a quarterback this year in the national football league. Okay let's understand the San Francisco. Forty niners are different. They're different animal altogether from position to position. You can knock it down the offensive line protects their quarterback their quarterback. ACAS somebody that you raised about in terms of what his capabilities are when you highlight what he did. It gets New Orleans and a few other teams this year. They're running game doubt top to run a game football pau. deebo Samuel is a start Emmanuel. Sanders might be the best pickup this season when they acquired him about seven or eight games into the season. George Kid A. We've had a debate whether it's him or Travis Kelsey in terms of the ability at tight end at whether or not they're the best in a game and oh by the way how was George Kimble utilized in in the postseason. What they did is they launched him up and made him into a elite edge? Block is well which buffered their running game and so when you take that into consideration ration- just on that alone will cost him and his Daddy. Mike Shanahan who is a two-time super bowl champion who was helping the sun out take into consideration and what you're looking at is an offense that has the ability dislike McFarland said to part union mouth. Ram It down your throat make it a far more physical game that you want. And we ain't even we get to the defense their ability to get to the quarterback or their abilities in the secondary aspect of check. That he's going to miss. Phil can I just you say really quick before we go to break I am also going with the niners huge Al's Roberts paving the way for Air Americans the first Muslim coach in the NFL. He doesn't get enough credit huge props to him and what he's doing the defensive coordinator there. How do you judge someone not by what they say by what? They do. The Nation of doers. What's might Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid worked his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news and information formation business from scratch mayor of diverse progressive city. Mike Bloomberg rebuilt after nine eleven. Creating five hundred thousand jobs improving health care in public schools. Now he's running for President and Mike's the change. We need from chaos to steady leadership from lies to someone who believes in fact Zim data from divisiveness to someone who builds teams nurtures good ideas and hold himself accountable for results. Mike Bloomberg knows how to leave to build into deliver to do. He'll win and unite this country. Mike we'll get things done. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate for president. And I approve this message because because we need to deliver on the promise of the American Dream Paid for by Mike Bloomberg Twenty twenty southeast killed him in game two days away away. It's going to be fantastic. We got two time Superbowl Champs Cougar. McFarland hanging with eight as a good old time breath Tom Brady with the cryptic post. Will he stay or will he go. That is the question that everybody will be asking at enters. Is this off season. He poured fuel on the fire yesterday with that tweet of his silhouette walking in the tunnel. Max It just a photo no message. What is this tweet? Stay about Tom. Brady let me be very clear about this okay. I don't have a problem with this tweet. I don't have a problem with it but a lot of you should let me explain Tom. Tom Brady is the goal. He's the greatest football player. Who ever lived at that position to lead the way he has performed the way he has under pressure he became greater and greater as his career went on like better at his craft into absurdly late age? It's unimpeachable but I recall when Alex Rodriguez says who was also among the all time greats in baseball opted out of his deal during the world series and by the way there was nothing ambiguous about it he he opted out he wanted a new contract. Everyone killed him media killed him. He's up staging the world series. I I didn't have a problem with it. Whatever you don't pay attention to it or night what are you going to forget about the world series? But if you had a problem with that you'd better have a problem with this. Why would Tom Brady get a pass? Asked on this. He sends out a begging for attention. Kind of all that is. Why wouldn't you just say why do you have you walking out? which which waiters feet point did is he going in or is he going out? Is You wearing street clothes. What does this say that tweet is designed to get everyone talking about you them going into the Friday before the Super Bowl? So what's that. Why does he get a pass that again? I don't care. He's entitled to do what he wants wants. I didn't care when a rod opted out of his deal. But if you care about a rod doing that and other athletes of staging the super the event making it about them. Ed How is this any different. It's the exact same thing and just because he's the goat does not mean. He's perfect and above criticism period and by the way he's saying he's out of New England. Definitely well wow okay. Here's here's where I would agree with you. Tom Brady has always said and done the right thing the patriots. He's always done that he's always GonNa make sure he put the team. I I agree with this point. This is about Tom Brady putting him self I did. He want to sit absolutely. We all want attention every now and then so Tom. Brady's getting his attention out disagree with you. I think he's going back to New England. I think when it's all said and done Tom Brady understand the value of loyalty he understands the value of the family atmosphere. Between he and Robert Kraft and I think he wants to be able to do it as he's always done by recreating team. Everyone says why would he go back to New England. There are no weapons. There Tom Brady has always made every weapon that he's ever had better because they were around him because that they needed to make him better he still has good years live and everyone is one. That's not entirely true. You just said Randy. Moss made Tom Brady better than the vice versa. Tom Brady set records when Randy Moss. Tom Tom Brady this before randy more he was. He was greater with Randy Miles. He's been great without randy mouth. He has always been randy. Moss had better seasons before he saw Tom Brady Brady and Tom Brady had his best season. When Randy mosses there Randy Moss has been great for years? So as Tom Brady made each other better. That's the one I'll give you that. Tom Brady understands this one thing about his career. Because he's seen it Joe. Montana even gave him the advice. The grass is not always greener on the other side. Tommy he went to Kansas City but we still know revere so Montana for the forty nine hundred years. So if you're Tom Brady his what I would tell you a little piece of advice and Joe Montana giving the same advice stay in New England. Finish the story storybook career there the tweet. I don't pay any attention to it. It's about Tom Brady doing well. We all want to do at some point. You know what I'm going to. I'm not going to conform to the pastry way. I'm not going to conform to doing the right thing. Yes it's the Friday before the Super Bowl so I'm going to get a little attention and all the tension. Here's here's the prostate. Here's a Wpro what Brady did number one. The Patriot way suited him. Fine until it didn't then he did. An end around Belichick went to the owner and got Garoppolo ship data town right so the Patriot way. Hey Brady gave into it. The whole thing until the Patriot weight came looking for him. Hey Oh man get out. We've got a young guy then. He undermined the Patriot way. That's number one number number. Two he wants to get paid Belgium's not going to pay him so if he does another end around to craft and now bellichik. GM's got to devote these resources. He doesn't what do to Brady. Now what Kraft GonNa do. Also tell him who to put around Brady with Hamstrung because he's handcuffed because he spent the money who's team is Bella L. A. Chicks teen. WHOSE TEAM IS BILL BELLY? Get it twisted. Is Robert Kraft Steam. Okay never ever get into his alert situation. That's right played out. One less thing about Montana Joe Montana is it wall sure is it Montana. Of course it was always more washed Montana just like it's more logic than Brady. It's coaches coaches league. But there the goat coaches lettuce but they're the couldn't use your NBA Players League Baseball's GM's league NFL's a coach. Let's not get Baghdad. Goats Joe Montana went to case the year one took him to the AFC championship game. A guess what the Dynasty at San Francisco Oh continued because they had Steve. YOUNG MONTANA DIDN'T GET Steve Young ship down another hall of Famer. Jimmy Jesus the Super Bowl this year but not for for the Patriots in the Super Bowl. It's not compared Jimmy. GEETA Steve Young. Let's not do that right now. When he would have been happy? He wanted. Grady to tweet a cliff out. Hashtag Max during the season Molly. Oh it's likely favored bird over the niners. Speaking of a good one I agree one with right now joining us now I it'll player in the NFL amassing Over a thousand yards rushing and receiving. Did y'all give it up for Christian. McCaffrey the last time it was Marshall. faulk thousand thousand good company to be in. Thank you so much for being here. On behalf old spice Ulta by student does smell so good I just gotTa say thank you for being here absolutely yellow. Spicer's job the new ultra fresh line getting walgreens. They got body wash got the odor and I might need some of that. You gotta stay fresh. That need their body wash to stealing their women's all right good stuff. So we made our picks Max earlier took the chiefs. Bugger took the niners. I took the niners. Stephen took the chiefs. You took the niners. Why well I hope they both lose first off competitor? I I have. I have a lot of buddies play for the forty niners. I watch I like watching. You know individuals who I'd played with and as a fan of Solomon. Thomas is one of my roommates at Stanford Levin Toilolo Stanford Guy Obviously Ritchie chairman being a Stanford Guy Keeping in touch with some of those guys just throughout my career Fun Watching them play. But I mean you look at what the chiefs had done and that offense and what Andy. Reed's done pat homes. Obviously it's going to be a very exciting games. Powerhouses saw him as a fan of the game. I'm excited to watch as real recognize. Recognize real or game recognize game as a guy yourself who's got all the fast twitch cheese and the natural ability and then also plays the game really smart. I look at Patrick. Patrick Mahomes in an even matchup and think and think you can't do it. You can't account for him. He not only has the extra ability that other guys don't have have but he's smart. He doesn't turn the ball over. He's precise he makes the right. Read the right decision in terms of the fact that you are also a player like that. What do you see when you when you watch? Patrick Mahomes you see so much in in the cool thing about him. He'll make plays that. That normal people can't make and You know he does all all the intangibles correctly and then he takes it and uses. What what he can do so well with his arm? Strength was with his vision and ability to see the field so well to a whole `nother level somebody that it's very like you said it's tough to emulate. It's tough to account for him He knows when he get the ball out of his hands. He knows when he can run and slide. He knows when he can maybe lower his shoulder. So one of the one of the most fun quarterbacks. I've I've enjoyed watching. Everyone is talked about this Kansas City chiefs defense and how they stop the Tennessee Titans and Derrick Henry. They're going to bring it's a different animal. You're the perfect person asked. This question explains already is the difference between the titans running game with Derrick Henry and then the zone scheme with Kyle Shanahan and how they do it. You know I think it in my as a running back it really just depends because you have power run game Derrick Henry one of the best. I've ever seen a running the football but but people forget the titans had dion Lewis Guy who who's been a one of the most versatile back in league year in and year out and I think to your point it's not as important as what kind of run game you have as much as is it is how you use it against the cert team so a team like the forty niners who have great pass rushers. They have great run stoppers. It's difficult to run your normal gap scheme outside zone inside zone. If you can hats off to you I would do with the whole game but if you can't it's important as a as a staff schematically we'd come up with reverses to come up with different misdirection run plays if you want to run the ball just to keep them on their on their toes a little bit so It'll it'll be fun to watch You know it is a different beast. College Shanahan's such a good play caller and they have speed all over the field. Both both teams do and like you said if you can stop the run you have to have different answers. You have to have other ways to. I mean you're far away from the spectrum but you're GONNA do TV after that's what it sounds like. What have your teammates one of the greats? Greg Olsen said that he's stepping away from the panthers he didn't say he's retiring from your retain. What's your reaction sad you know? Obviously Luke Retiring Greg leave and Ryan Kalil even a year ago. A lot of a lot of the guys that you know I came in I and hung out with not just in the locker room but off the field are leaving so for me. It's tough But but at the end of day this league is an unforgiving league. And it's you know it's so up and down and at the end of the day you really have to do a good job of staying poised. And I'm very fortunate I got to play with a guy like Greg with somebody who isn't just a great player but You look at what he's done in the community you look at you know how he is as a father as a husband and somebody. That's very easy to look up to. I'm GONNA miss them but I'm very fortunate I got to play with guys like him Liam over the last. was there any talk in the locker room like new owner new coach. Now that CAM for so long had to carry this whole offense. He was his own running back. Best Receiver was a tight end and boy. Could he use a guy like McCaffrey right. That would have been great and then you get there and he gets hurt. It's like just what this team needed. Kind of didn't overlap enough. Do you guys talk about that ever. Yeah Yeah it's frustrating I'm I'm appreciative of all the all the good times we did have looked back at when cam was healthy and Times when we got to play together and all of us are on the field at the same time there was so much fun unfortunately injuries another part of the game that you can't control but cams a guy and I watched I watched the way he plays and You don't see quarterbacks play the way he does fighting for director yards throwing blocks out all this stuff that you know people. Don't talk about as a running back when I see a quarterback. WHO's willing to do that for the team? Very easy to very easy to follow L. elite like that you know usually when a new coach comes in and you guys have a new one in met rule you have to keep with the leadership I e The star players and you are being one of them. Let's talk about. Here's what our plan is and I want you to take this to the locker room. So your interaction with your head. Coach Matt Rule. What is he laid out? The plan is for you guys and how to get you guys into the playoffs and maybe in in his big game one day. I think that's such a such a tough answer because it's I think the biggest thing with our team is just taking it one day at a time and taking it step by step you know. We got a lot of good good young guys who are hungry to win. We got a lot of good veterans. But we don't WanNa talk about play offs. You don't WanNa Talk Super Bowls I think just being being coach Berry used to always say his feet are and I think that's the most important thing in the world and coach was going to do a heck of a job. Doing I'm extremely excited excited to play from just talking to him. He sees press conference and see the way. He's turned around to you know to college the way he did It'll be a lot of fun so but I think it's important you start with a clean slate. Nobody's exempt of of being a leader. He no there is no hierarchy. We need everybody to step up. And and and that's what it takes to win game. So that's an that's an every meeting every every practice Christian you mentioned Ron Rivera. Your former coach will be with us. Next how did he impact your career. Well it's as a player. I never take for granted anybody who believes in me and draft me top. Ten could never think more more. So he's not just you know he's a great coaches add unbelievable success but He's an amazing leader. He's an amazing man. He's a motivator I is. He's a heck of a coaching those ball really well and Washington's very lucky they're getting really good one who's running back in the game I am. That's sad so the year you just had you now feel that you are the best running back in the game. Yeah Yeah that's good answer by the way you can't. I believe in Sake. I hope steak one gets to be where he is now. Now Safe. Say Quantum say the same thing deserving. So that's just a competitor. He's a guy all these guys around the league. I mean there's so many great black backs that I really enjoy watching but they don't do everything like you do everything I think. He's the most complete back in football. Running catching saquon has something to say. But if you're talking about about a guy guy. Dallas went twenty one that I'd probably defer to his twenty one absolutely take seek before you took Christian McCaffrey. I WANNA pound the rock. I don't the running back to catch the ball timeout. See I just prefer. twenty-one Zeke might be a top five back maybe maybe maybe out. Although they ate the most talented stick was way more talented successor. Oh mom on. I just had the best year but I'm not the most I think you have to you and Saquon Kwan. Is He's thirty pounds. Twenty five pounds bigger and he's a little faster but my bigger than me. No doubt but I think you have the best evidence to support your case right now now and I would say saquon and you but earlier. When he's healthy is better than Zeke? He's better than Zeke stay kwanzaa thus derrick. Henry is better for me back in like Christian in here. He's the most complete back in football most complete back and forth and win a game. You don't want him over Zeke. You try to win this is GonNa be a new segment. We're GonNa what are you. Yeah what are you most proud about about your game. I think I I mean I love playing the game. I want to be on the field as much as possible. I think the thing I'm most proud of is that you know I take pride in and not leaving the field and playing every snap that I can. I don't know what the percentage sentence was but but I try never to leave the field. You know I do. I do take a lot of pride in putting my body in a position where I don't have to leave the field so that's probably what I'm most proud consulted this man. I just want you to this is about Christian for him goodness. I can't take these people anywhere.

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"Now this is how you send a congratulatory tweet Tom. Brady congratulations on your retirement. And a great career. Eli Not GonNa lie though a wish. You hadn't wanted me sued through the walls. That's how you hate. And that is real Randy Moss and Tom Brady. And the greatest offense against the guy who introduced the most facial memes ever will brady are you. They swore border fourteen points. Maybe they would have done shout out to the giants defense. That is so underrated right now. The well we start with the Australian because we got wild wild results on the other side of the planet. I the eighth-seeded Serena Williams was upset by the twenty seventh ranked one in three sets stopping. Serena's latest quest to Margaret Court's. It's record of twenty four majors and elsewhere in the third round fifteen year. Old American Coco. Goff who was unseated stunned. The third seed in Osaka six three six six four after the upset does just took. You don't want to lose to a fifteen year old you know But I guess that's for me like a reality check It doesn't really matter the age of the opponent and Everyone of course. She deserves to be here. She played her matches. And I just have to work harder so bo which result was vigorous approach with all the real dog by the way he was he was just like look trying to lose the nobody not younger than me and eight. That many people here as younger than me. Now what I found to be most surprising. I guess I lean towards Serena getting smashed in that. When Coco Golf in Greenwich? She looked totally different in this match that she had when they played. US Open she got obliterated in that match then came out strong. You could say the same about the time. That Chong Played Serena the last time they faced but actually I'll switch it up. In the middle of this go the Serena and being less surprising and the reason is is going to happen man like at some point. We have to realize that someone of her age agents been doing this as long as we're not promised we're going to get more of this Margaret Court what her twenty-fourth bet. Everybody thought the twenty fifth was just right around the corner. It's possible she's GonNa be stuck on twenty wouldn't three. I'm not saying it's going to happen but this can happen. It is weird that we think back to the Australian Open in two thousand seventeen which Serena won while eight weeks pregnant. And we're like well. I guess that was the last one she was going to win. If it is she wanted well eight weeks. Pregnant there is so much to celebrate on the Serena Side of the ledger forever but this to me is about the coronation of a rivalry. This is a real thing I o mio soccer there at the US. Opened in September. I got to watch them play after the match. That's where the new story was. It was not Yomiuri soccer being kind to cocoa goth. It was not el. Mio Sokha taking a crying teenager. And saying hey come in and join me for this post game interview so the whole crowd can appreciate you in this one. The vibe totally flipped. She now realizes that Tokyo Golf. Who by the way is I believe the youngest since Jennifer Capriati to beat a top five player women's tour level match that to me this means it's real data to she ain't never gonNa do nothing like that ever again and battle blame her? You grown grown up to come out here and play these tournaments now man cry by yourself especially if you come out here beat me the last hug that you were ever going to receive. And I'm here for that part to Serena found basically anytime a black woman comes up. Everybody Expects Rita well. Are you going to mentor her. Slow Stevens was a person that put up there looking at that and like she ain't got a mentor. Nobody why just what you said. It stopped being polite and start to get real absolutely now. Move on to the Clippers on January fourth after twenty six point home loss to the Grizzlies Mantras Herald said this to the media eighteen. That's one thing I'm I'm not a great team. We just became together this year to having never been part of this team to play that one maybe attempts to withhold not last year. So we're not a great team. That's number one right there. I think that's what we realized. Wake up you know team. That still has to figure out things that we need to you. Do Win all right per the athletic that prompted dog rivers to tell his team to keep their frustrations in house. And then we we found out that he did it all right. Ten palpable with the clippers. The scrap unit surprisingly won forty eight games last season while Leonard a somewhat aloof superstar who plays when he feels feels up to it on the court. A lack of playmakers makes for lots of Solo basketball but the clippers have won eight of their last eleven. Pablo these tensions with Patrick Beverley dismissed. It's fake news. It was a big deal. There are a big deal right now. It's the product of the regular season and two remaining clippers. Were there last year to their credit. They were a playoff team they took to gains is from the warriors the championship level warriors in the first round and those guys felt like they were dealing with a democracy. There were no all stars. There were no big stars and now what are they dealing with. They're dealing with a monarch INQUI- Leonard. And the thing. About how the clippers deal with Qui- they indulge him not just because he's really good but because this is what what all modern basketball teams do so I understand why the guys underneath on the peon level are frustrated with is also the reality of the NBA in the Modern Day. But I think the biggest reason they indulged. We're talking about when he plays because his body's not right. I don't understand why everybody always about Leonard as though well I just don't feel like playing right right now. They have an excuse basically billion for the League for when they do and don't play him because his body is not at one hundred percent even winning is one hundred percents. That seems to be the biggest thing that they've got going here but I don't think this is a big deal right now again. They won eight out of eleven games. If there's going to be a big deal with this it's going to come later in part of it is. This is not title well-constructed Basketball Team. It was hilarious this summer when this all came together. People looking at the Lakers. I don't know if these parts are going to fit or are you really going to trust. The bodies of Lebron brought James and Anthony Davis which you have on the other side quieter to Paul George to Rossa. That doesn't have anybody that can get a shot for anybody else this roster as the two best playmakers might be wild wild litter it Paul George. So you're saying that the two dudes who just came in to everything they had are gonna be the ones taken all the shots in making the decisions on everybody else they decide for that's never urban the job that either of them had so right now. No this isn't a thing what this team is going to look like. In the playoffs this roster is one that has holes that need to be Phil. There are holes but in fairness to Hawaii Leonard and Paul George Win those two guys have played. The team has played at a pace where they win about sixty four games pro rated over the whole season season right so there are holes in the Rosser their weaknesses but to me. This is as much about them. Discovering what Kawhi Leonard is actually like keep in mind last year with the raptors. That was kind kind of awkward situation throughout despite ending in a championship. Because Leonard wasn't vocal because he was sitting out games. These guys are finding that. Wait a minute. We don't actually understand this guy when it comes to the injury management load management distinction to them. It's a distinction without a difference. But they say he doesn't they'd be clear he does hang out with them but he's he's not a waiting. Gene from the whole team is just all weird up next design Williamson whose Pelicans are hosting the nuggets. At Eight o'clock tonight the Barber Zion's encore will we'll be really really high and that's both because he scored seventeen th straight points in his debut and because we are now taking a microscope to every aspect of him like his weight about about which Zion told woes. This there's really no comparison to me because I tried at every level to my game My Body my body's just bill different different. You know some people try to look at it as a weakness but a look at it as a blessing because people aren't used to garden this kind of size of and I'm able to add a little Vanessa my game so us flavor and I feel like I'm GonNa play maker so I can create my team as and when I have to finish finish so Bo Zion's perspective make sense. That's there yeah I mean this might be the only time ever people evacuated being bigger than everybody else is a problem right and I do think the thing with him is he is never ever GonNa be with so slim like this idea Lehem like even if he gets in the tip top shape he probably doesn't have a body that is going to turn into something that looks like a guy that is in tiptop shape so that what part does worry me I understand. What the issues to be? He's going to be a heavy. Do they jumps really high. They're going to be problems with that absolutely but him say I look at my body as a blessing so this just about what everybody else absolutely. My thick adult son should not be body. Shamed in this way. And it's because Bomani. I actually fear what happens when when you do tinker with a formula that has worked for his entire life as much as I don't understand the physics of him as much as I understand that when you have that much weight on joints like that and you're jumping that often often it kind of doesn't make sense and it still doesn't to me. I don't want to change what's happening because we're not at that point yet to me. We're at the point. Where his game is hampered by it if if the body ends up being a recurring issue? Sure let's revisit but we're not there yet. We talked about these. You'll be microscope to everything we we. We won't put a microscope on everything. I don't feel like America was here like Oh Man Zion's about to play game number two. We're not so much at that place yet. He had to be game. We're and and we're going to watch this as it progresses right but I think that he is at a place in this happens to guys early. We enjoy them when they're early we don't we don't really start putting putting the microscope auto until we start having some level of expectation of what kind of winning they are supposed to do but his position he's got about two years and change what we started looking at you and then and say okay. What you do like your boy? Simmons Lid Simmons has been not shooting for a very long time. We only started caring now that it's reasonable to expect him to make a basketball team better. Nobody's thinking right now he should be straight even in the age of the Internet. You think is GonNa be straight. I feel like people can be very mean to him. Like the Internet's man next. How could it'll be dry out high draft? How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's Mike Bloomberg about doing things? 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The Dow bills y'all first topic Milwaukee's currently thirty nine and six seventy one wins. You had on the bus when it seventy. I am in on the prospect of this my warning to the bucks prospect. You know the winning seventy seventy Thursday Bomani. I think they absolutely can. But the problem is the drawback people care for the week. The warriors one seventy three games and then what happened. No one cared because they didn't win the finals. I just cautioned them at. This may not be the reward you think it is guiding win a championship otherwise championship. Yes and I'm Wayne. Blame the warriors for that. Because when it's seventy games as a whole lot to do and then losing in the files completely took the luster off something that we had not seen until nineteen ninety-six. Now I do think they are going to win. Seventy threats. Think they're that much better than the rest of the he's the question's GonNa be. How much are they gonNA play guys late to actually get any games right? Do they care enough up to actually make it there. I don't see any actual draw back to win it seventy games. They wear sixty nine and lose a champion in the finals. Clown saying next topic. Kevin Love says quote. I'll be happy if I'm still with the Cleveland Cavaliers beyond the trade deadline. You win on that. Is He. Happy to Cleveland Cavaliers. Right now right. 'cause I mean maybe he he is. I may be wrong about this. I don't think he appears to be too happy to cavaliers right now. So you telling me this you not happy right now but it'll be okay after the window to get the hell out of dodge goes away. Come on man. Yeah you gotta say that. But I ain't got you. I am out on this but that is the point. He has to say this. Because you want to get out of dodge ASAP. If I'm the Cleveland Front office I am telling him please. Let's talk about how happy you will be even if you don't get traded. That's the only way we a shot in hell of convincing everyone else that we might actually get something. That's fair value for what he's value for him by the way. Does anybody know 'cause I don't have an answer up next to talk about low. MLK drafted the year. Yes to number five overall to the dolphins while Barscott Bart Scott sit on get up at two isn't getting passed number three overall. You went on to go in that. I am in on him going that high assuming the body checks out and that's the big question mark how how does his actual hipped beal how to his ankles. Look all that stuff with Bomani. This is such a quarterback scarce sports. And if you can get to who is so so accurate at throwing the ball deep. Yeah you take him that. It is a quarterback scare sport. But this isn't really a quarterback scares draft right right now. It all depends on how you feel about a guy like Justin herbage or do like Jordan. Look I don't have the answers on those dudes. I haven't paid nearly enough attention to it. It's just hard for me to believe at this dude who had a hip injury that he had is just GonNa be okay now. It people think that he's a top ten pick will go on the top three because somebody's going to have to trade up and get them. I'm I'm just not as sold on this. I'm not sold just based on the college stuff now. To the Rape Lamar Jackson compared marquees. Hollywood Brown Julio Jones and said quote this year. He's he's going to be dangerous. You went on that because it's dangerous last year is the thing about this event he is. He has that level of speed where I don't know who anybody. Yeah that is supposed to check him and he is a decent wide receiver. Niger super fast. So size notwithstanding yeah. I don't think he's Julio Jones dangerous necessarily but it's pretty damn dangerous. I am in on his potential. The Mark Jackson is going to throw deep to him over and over again. And you'll be very good at catching the ball deep over and over again but that size thing you mentioned is the point point to make this dude Hollywood is more. He's more like Bait. He's five nine five ten for the record but are so under seventy pounds or so. Julio Jones six three to twenty not the imagination you have the stature. Julio Jones been reality that comparison feels weird to most five nine guys. Think they've really. Oh Jones probably the horror of somebody's identity five ten now. mookie Betts Red Sox have discussed the trade centered around bets with Padres Purdah athletic you in the Red Sox trading best to the padre out on this simply because a rookie best is like most popular player on the team. He might be the best player on the team. And the reason they don't WanNa keep him though is because of the luxury tax. They don't WanNa pay the penalty and I do understand that except for the fact that the red sox print money you can afford them. You just want to. Yeah but are they going to do this thing this year where they have every excuse in the world to tear it down they had to fire. Are there manager right before the season I feel like if they wanted to get Mukhi bets money and keep him long term. They would have done that already. They had his chances on this one year. Deal now if if there's not going to keep them then trade. My thing is San Diego so it's GonNa be you Machado. Ann Mckee Back Down there looking around and be like how come I never heard of these other. Yeah that it is an issue but if you're looking at some point if they don't want you there you probably don't WanNa be there either after a match up NEX. It does her on pay see God ball at the pro bowl guard landry. He ain't nothing. No the entire concept of the sport working rejects because he's so good receiver gloves by the way. I mean he might wear the store for all I know I liked that trick. Jails tried to roll the ball and then throw it with Yogi. Don't but I mean since Jay Bilas Baker Mayfield jobs landry right wait wanted wow wow Baker Mayfield's at home just being like really really you're already laughing commercials and I'm completely irrelevant. But then again that quote it almost looks like they got their roster from the Olympic relay team and through them all on the football ballfields said niners defensive coordinator Robert sallow about the chiefs offense so Bomani the chiefs causing problems for the niners defense in the Super Bowl. I mean when's the last time you saw them play against the defense where they did not cause them. Problems Francisco's defense. This year was one of the two best in the League depending on how you feel about it. The more the Patriots Watch the cheese play against the Patriots. They appears to cause those guys some problems all those fast foods. Some of them little some of them big some dispatched with their positions faz into guys checking them. There's nothing you can really do due to stop them from giving you some problems. It is unfair to have that many guys that fast darting all around the field. It's even more unfair to have a quarterback who can do stuff like that and just throw it wherever he wants if. You're the niners though what you were hoping and praying for is that your front four can get pressure when it's just those guys because if they can get nick Bosa and all those dudes what's up front to get pressure and reduce the time that Padma homes has to drop back and find them. That's the prayer they have to ask for and that is beyond just like being the best chance. It's not terribly unlikely like the heavy good offensive line effect like top ten in the league and spending the offensive line late. They fortify at that contrary to what you may know. Did you know they have a former number one overall pickle that line the number one overall big all time if they could hold up against San Francisco. They're good just trying to think of how many teams we've seen actually do that. And we have seen teams that have managed to do this. SAC SEAMEN's put up forty five points against our examples so somebody can get it done but this is going to be so much fun because it's not just a good defense. It's a fun defense. Watch your head that against this rocket show that they got here for no. We talked to our friend. Dominic Foxworth about this. How as a defensive back do you deal with guys? Were that fast. I win because Herdman who had no idea who he was before. This season is somehow just about as fast as tyreek Hill. That's just absurd quote. We have enough right now. Lebron James as the Lakers are one piece away from submitting their championship contenders status pobably. Lebron that I am in with him on that because because they have these two dudes who look like they're about to fusion dance together and basically they have they operate as one and in this nets game last night we got a taste of what makes them so special social man. If you have Anthony Davis and Lebron if you have a guy who can find Anthony Davis as he can across the court the Brawn James has been good at passing thing as anybody in the sport this year. So do they have enough. WHO has enough? Because I don't know if there's any team that I look at right now see their roster composition. It'd be like Yeah No. I'm sure these guys have enough in order to win a championship. There's reason they've been talking about trading Kyle Kuzma because that roster still has some holes. That need your go. Look everywhere else clippers. I don't have guys that are going to be able to make plays I think the bucks lead another guy who can get there get his own shot. The sixers have those guys at the top of their Ross. But they don't have anybody they can go get their own shot. Miami not not really coming around a winning a championship on this one yet right so they may have enough because nobody else has enough. That could be good enough for them and you throw the Denver Nuggets in there the Denver. The nuggets are suffering with Jamal. Murray problem the guy has been so crazy so far this year you think yeah in the land of the blind man is king. Yeah that happens to be the king. I think you're into instant gratification. I think kids nowadays. They want to go towards not the easier route but the fastest route said Derrick Jeeter jeeter about MLB's decline in black players. So Bo is jeeter's reasoning. Did anybody follow this up. Whoever was in the room with so what you trying to say freely? What are you trying to say the rationale here? If you're going to say this I think people want the easy route. That question was specifically about black people so I can only take from that. You're assuming that black people these are these others would prefer to have this easier route or preferred first and foremost and I ask you derrick. Jeeter how how to help you come up with that conclusion. The wire those people different than everybody else. This is wild problematic specific issue with this generally speaking if he was describing just just kids in general it kind of makes sense or even just good athletes in general kind of make sense. Because what's not fun about baseball. Well there's a lot right because the fact that the sport in comparison into the NFL and the NBA is kind of on the down. Turn but in terms of how you actually get to the highest levels gotta ride the bus. You got to get on a boss and make like minor league minimum wage salaries and you're visible until you get to the very peak of the profession. In the meantime in college you actually could become a star Oren those other sports in a way that any kid like. That's not what the issue is here. As far as I can tell the bus that you gotta get on. After the fact is it was keeping the people out. It's the mini vans. SUV's you need to ride in with your buddies for your pay travel league. that are keeping people out of this. The idea that he thinks this problem title starts up at the end. What do you think a twelve year old? It's like yeah I would love to play baseball except I don't want to ride the bus in the minor leagues. That doesn't make any sense about. No no no they have priced people out of the game. We've seen so many studies of so many people who've talked about the fact that it just costs too damn much to play baseball and by the way the people who run baseball at the youth level aren't really that interested didn't having black people play their games but here he is out here with US cashiers stores as soon as they can. What is that no? None of. This should be specific to the black experience. That's what I would say about like. What's it like to be fifteen and wanted to play future sport? You can be on Instagram and super famous age eighteen. Weissmuller's offer that light wipe participation in baseball is increasing. We looked it up just before we got out here. Why because the access for those people remains the same? The issue here is access if for him to have a job like he. He has not be bright enough to know that no one of his fans talked about him like that number is more than forty two million. That's how much does her is new. Six year extension engine with Lsu is worth forty nine has taken over at Lsu and eleven and one in his last twelve games against top ten opponents Pablo you expect them to be at Lsu when the deal Israel in I do and I hope he is and by the way on this contract. You could've told me he's making ten million dollars a year twenty million dollars a year and given how good he has been in perfect he has fit at that school. I kind of would have nodded along. The I don't know if he'll be at Lsu in twenty twenty six. But I feel pretty confident he'll still be in baton rouge and if he's not the head coach the the governor very like. That's where he is at this point. He'll be the governor if he's not the football coach. How questions coming up next? He's on it this shirtlessly.

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Amanpour: Katarina Barley, Vanessa Hauc, Van Jones and McKay Coppins

"Hello everyone and welcome to almond poor. Here's what's coming up. This is a gift. Racism is a poison. Angular Merckel confronts Germany's rising fall right as a gunman goes on a killing spree near Frankfurt. We talked to the former Justice Minister Casuarina Bali. And I don't think you look at Donald Trump and say we need someone richer in the White House showdown in Vegas. Democrats go from passive aggressive as Bloomberg gets on the debate stage and the states get higher. We talk to one of the moderators Vanessa author and political commentator. Van Jones. Plus people are so confused and disoriented by the onslaught of information and propaganda that they just throw up their hands and say there's no way to separate out what's true and what's not journalists. Mckay coppins on the Topsy Turvy. Dangerous World of disinformation in politics. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christiane Amanpour in London. Germany is in uproar today after a suspected. Far-right gunman went on a rampage. On Wednesday night killing nine people. All of whom according to a federal prosecutor had a quote migrant background. Turkey says five of those killed were Turkish citizens. The suspect and his mother were found dead. Chancellor Angela Merkel nation. It's with everything is being done to clarify up to the last detail. The background of these horrific killings many indications at the moment that the perpetrator acted on right-wing extremist racist motives out of hatred towards people of other origins religion or parents under them. Lomb now Germany is struggling with the rise of the far-right in recent years and each violent incident eats away the legacy that the nation has carefully rebuild from the ashes of its Nazi past in October. A gunman killed two people offer attempting to attack a synagogue and last summer a leading politician was assassinated for Supporting Chancellor Moguls Refugee Policy. Now is Germany looks to a future. Without Merckel will democratic forces be strong enough to beat back? The rising far-right casuarina. Bali is former justice minister and vice president of the European Parliament and she's joining now from Amsterdam Katharina Bali. I mean first. Your reaction used to be a very senior member of one of the main parties of the SDP now you. You're in the European Parliament. What is your reaction to what's happened in Germany? Well of course we all gem society. We have extremely shocked because as you mentioned. Germany has been has been very aware of its specific history and we've seen decades where events like this weren't weren't possible considered even thinkable in in Germany and now Holocaust is in the past. We have very few witnesses left. Who can tell their story? And so we're all extremely worried. And we've seen this rising foul rightism. I've explained the violence that we've seen. We know that antisemitism is rising. And we've seen this attack on the prosecutors. There called people of a migrant background many of them are Moslem as as you can tell and this gunman seemed to be spouting all sorts of racism and white nationalism. What are the I guess? The conditions on the ground right now politically culturally that has been allowing this kind of violence not to mention the AFDC far right party to be rising in Germany. The circumstances I guess are the same as in a lot of other countries too. It's a climate That is being That has been created by political forces. Especially that build on scapegoats that build on antisemitism on homophobia on racism and This man for example. He was not someone who was known as as a white right wing extremist but he obviously picked up all of this this Ideology and then decided to to execute what others preach it preached and. I think this is something that we've seen a lot of countries and unfortunately nowadays also in Germany since you were former justice minister there and you had to deal with issues like this in your remit and you were leader of a major party general secretary. Do you feel that this right-wing white nationalism that we've seen rising with some of the violence that I have described and by the way Prosecutors have said in the domestic intelligence agency estimated the number of violent crimes with these far right elements rose by three percent in two thousand eighteen. So they have been rising. Is this something that you see as an organized issue or is it individuals? Who who grab onto this this political strain and act out there. They're they're racist views in other words. Is it a movement? Well I think it's both We do see organized structures and we do see a political arm but we also see people who who has said are not in the focus of our national security system And who just pick up the ideology and we've seen that for example in Norway or in Christ church or in other places in the world and that is what makes it so difficult to combat because the structures you can you can survey you. Can you can fight against them. But these these people who just decide well. I've heard enough of all of this. I'm going to now change it myself. These people are far far harder to control. Of course that is rising in the United States as well. There've been incidents of precisely this kind of right wing nationalism. That have taken place. But you know in the introduction. I said I asked will Germany's democratic structures be strong enough to prevent this rise and rise. Not just a right wing fall right wing politics but also the violence but that you know forgets that in font the AFDC. The party which has condemned this attack. We have to say the alternative for Deutschland has been democratically rising in your society and it is you know the first obviously since the end of World War. Two this I saw right party. That's in the national parliament. It makes up you know it is. The biggest. Opposition party was established some seven years ago surging in elections and has done so on a very raw anti immigrant and often anti-islam message. These are electoral politics in Germany. Today how does that get tackled? Well first of all to have been other parties before the NPD the Republicans but they have never been as successful as the is at the moment and that is of course the worrying part that it gets further towards the center of the society. So what we have to do is we have to fight it On the level of society as a whole we already do have stricter rules stricter laws than other European or the country's consenting crimes like denying the whole across the existence of the Holocaust for example is a crime in Germany so because of our specific history. We are already. I think very aware and that is maybe the encouraging part on the one hand we have these. Extremists is these aggressive but people and on the other hand you do have a very very vivid civil society that stands up and today for example. You have seen gatherings of people in. I guess every major city in Germany who stand up and say no. This is not the society we want. We want democratic a pluralistic of free German society. I mean you know really unfortunately and scarily there are. There is also a rise in people who say that Germany has been to a careful about rebuilding from the not pass that. Actually you know. There's a backlash against that as well with people lionising in some quarters what went before in. World War Two. And I want to ask you because for fourteen years or so. You've had a very strong leader in Chancellor Angela Merkel and she is you know kept the structure together kept the peace kept the economy going and now there seems to be a bit of wobbles going on in your country in Germany. Her handpicked successor has resigned. You know that there's there's some real problems about what what might whom I lead party. Who's going to challenge and run for chancellorship after but the reason a K. K? Is She's known. Anagram CRAM CRAM. Bauer resigned is precisely because of the when CD YOU MEMBERS HER PARTY. Members in one of the region's voted with that party. The AST to remove a politician in a region of East Germany which is against CD. You policy. They're not have anything to do with the FDA eat and has said when she resigned we currently feel strong centrifugal forces in our society. An apology we have to be strong stronger than we are today. So she's throwing down the gauntlet. This seems not to be a strong enough opposition to this. Well I think her problems were. There were various problems that she had obviously did not have the authority within her party. I think this is the main problem. And then that was the incident that really that really brought it to light completely. And what is true is that we have a division Concerning the FDA in still in eastern West we have them everywhere unfortunately but they are particularly strong in the eastern German states but considering the leadership. I mean there's still than a year to go until the next elections and has always said that she will stay in office until then so I think it's. It's a normal democratic procedure. That party gets together to find their candidate. And that's what the Conservatives are doing at the moment that's what the other parties are going to do. I don't think that this is a particular Case to to worry about but is worried about the blurring of the lines when it comes to the this is what she said about women with regardless of what we judge the perpetrator to be it seems. He was moved by racist motives and anti-foreigner motivation and therefore far-right motivation and that strengthens me in my position. That the CD. You always has to make it very clear and not just the CD you but all the political parties in Germany that there can be. No collaboration. Allowed with the political party is at least in parts for rights. And I say it consciously support Nazis send their party and which lays a basis food also in the political discussion for exactly these kinds of thoughts in this June. So she's putting down a red line that the major political parties should never get into bed in any form or fashion with the. Do you think that's a line that can hold particularly since they are doing? You know relatively well frankly in elected politics as I said not everywhere. Fortunately we have elections coming up in Hamburg at the moment where they might hopefully Get kicked out of parliament but yes I think the Conservatives really do have to make up their mind because this is an absolute game changer. In German politics there has been a consensus up to now that they're not any kind of Cooperation with the extreme right wing party. And if that red line falls then we are really in deep trouble. I would say but also the conservatives themselves. I hope that if they do that the electric would would prove them wrong because I associate Democrat. I mean I'm from the party. Who has always fought Nazis for well for the whole of history so we have absolutely clear and the conservative side at the moment is a bit wobbly but I hope that the public outrage that they are facing at the moment we'll We'll show them the way. Judge Reena Bali member of the European Parliament former German justice minister. Thank you for joining us. And now we go to the United States and the state of Nevada where this weekend another contest in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination takes place and last night's Las Vegas debate showed how heated this race has become. The gloves came off and all the candidates took aim at the Newcomer Michael Bloomberg Elizabeth Warren Dispense with her unity message and went right for the jugular. Take a listen about who were running against a billionaire who calls women fat broads and horseface lesbians and no I'm not talking about Donald Trump. I'm talking about mayor. Bloomberg now Nevada is much more ethnically diverse more representative of the nation than Iowa or New Hampshire. So it's being washed for who will get the biggest minority vote which is vital for victory here to talk all about it is Vanessa auct- she's climate journalists for not. Shas telemundo and she was one of the moderators of last night's debate and political commentator Van Jones. Waltham to you both you know what I actually want to stop by asking you because it's relevant to comment on what we just for reporting from Germany. The rise of right-wing nationalism the violence that can come with it. As we've seen of overnight very tragically in Germany I. It's a concern in the United States as well so van. Let me just ask you to just to react because this killer Did have some weird thoughts and messages for the United States as well well throughout the West. We're seeing the rise of the sort of right wing. Nativist Racist Movement in politics and the center and the left are not a finding our footing in combating effectively yet. And so the the election in two thousand twenty in some ways it's going to be a referendum on how far right how inclusive how how embracing diversity of the country is willing to be and that's why what's happening. The Democratic Party right now is so important. This sort of fistfight food by the breakout last night on the debate stage really had that as a key issue as Bloomberg has occasionally said and done things that have offended the sensibility of feminist and civil rights people and others and he wants to be the standard the standard bearer of our party in a moment. Like this. And that's why it got so hot last night from your perspective Vanessa Q. As I said you are a journalist with not telemundo. Obviously you report heavily on the Latino community and also of others but certainly The minority communities in the United States. What message do you take from? What happened last night? And who do you think your community is looking at as the best defender if you like Democratic nominee? Well thank you Christiane. Well definitely this is going to be a very very important. Election and Nevada is going to be the first step for these candidates. Thirty percent of the population of Nevada is Latino and they were listening very closely to all the proposals off the candidates so I think they are definitely trying to conquer the Latino vote because in this election is going to have great weight. I think now thirty. Two Million Latinos are eligible to vote. So this is going to to really turned the tide for one candidate. All so I tell you what. Let us stop by playing some of the major moments from last night. I want to play basically as I said in the introduction. Everybody was ganging up on Bloomberg because he's rising in the polls or he was before this debate. Here is Elizabeth Warren who we saw attacked Bloomberg on the billionaire front but she was particularly tough on him when it came to allegations of of of the workplace conditions at Bloomberg. Listen to this you that because he has gotten some number of women dozens who knows to sign nondisclosure agreements both for sexual harassment and for gender discrimination in the workplace so Mr Mayor or are you willing to release all of those women from those nondisclosure agreements so we can hear their side of the story. We have a very few nondisclosure agreements. How many Finnish companies them. None of them accused me of doing anything of than maybe they didn't like a joke. I told and let me. Just let me play. This would be agreements between two parties. That wanted to keep it quiet. And that's up to them so van. You are a veteran of democratic politics. How is this going to go down? Is this the these? Is this going to be a game changer? For Bloomberg is very very hard to know. We cannot tell. This is a Bloomberg bubble. He has speech spending an unbelievable amount of money. He's he's a multi-billionaire. You know. Thirty five thirty six when people say sixty billion dollars and he's willing apparently to spend a couple of billion on this election. That has never happened in the history of our Party the entire Party last year the general election spent a billion. This guy might spend that just for himself and so so he's rising in the polls. He adds everywhere. You cannot watch television in the United States on almost any channel any state without seeing almost wall to wall Bloomberg adds. He's also buying up all the talent. Every one of these kids have dropped out. He's reached out to their campaign. Coordinators organizers their media people and he's just buying up the talent does this mean he's he has now eight kind of a billion dollar teflon suit and no matter what you throw at him. He's going to be able to prevail. We do not know but Elizabeth Warren last night. I've been in criminal justice a long time. That was a murder. Scene was a premeditated murder scene. She took him to task and went his electability argument. He's saying I'M A I'm a bigger billionaire than trump. I can take trump out and she's saying yes. You have a lot of money. You're building a big machine but you also have a record in that record when it comes to women when it comes to people of color is a potentially toxic one for a general election candidate who's a Democrat and we just don't know this class to titans and identities and ideas how it's GonNa Work Out. Get back to to the record in a second. But first I want to ask you Vanessa as a woman and as somebody who was in the room moderating the debate how did Bloomberg and the other candidates come across and from your perspective the the woman issue which is a big issue for fifty percent of the voters or at least fifty percents. A women How do you think that came across last night? I think he was very very important. Lama the debate Presented you have to remember that we have the metoo movement here in the United States. That was so powerful for women. I mean thousands of women's out got out to the street to to Martin to raise their voices precisely against style of situations so senator. Warren was very very outspoken. And she really highlight issues. That Bloomberg is going to have to answer in this election. I think all the candidates have been have been campaigning for months on investing their time and energy trying to communicate their platforms are the message to communities and Michael Bloomberg comes Anita matter of a couple of weeks spend more than three hundred million dollars in campaigns in ads on TV and indefinitely. I think that was one of the points that the other candidates were not happy with. So we know. He's not taking part in the Nevada or the South Carolina contests and he won't be taking part until Super Tuesday which is early March van. I WanNa ask you from your perspective as a democratic political operative. You talk about the record. So there's that record. The billionaire the allegations of sexual you know harassment and as and this and that but what about other issues that matter to Democrats. He's put a lot of his billions into health into gun control into climate into education. Do you think that is something? The Democratic vote is because we're talking about electability. You just mentioned that. Is that something that that you think will be able to carry him forward or should well? I think that people are GonNa have to look at both sides. There's no such thing as a perfect candidate. The guys seventy eight years old. He's lived through a lot of different eras in which the standards and norms have changed for the better He has a strong record on climate. Strong record on guns He was able to you. Know preside over one of the most diversity in the World New York City and he was considered an effective mayor so he does Abe a lot going for him was really happening on the Democratic Party. Is We have these two phenomena coming from outside the party into the party on the one hand you have a bottom-up insurgency from Bernie Sanders. Who Frankly is a front runner? And he's a democratic socialist. He's never call themselves. Democrats so he's coming from the left into the party what they massive movement of millions of people and then you have Bloomberg who sometimes the Democrats Republicans sometimes independent. He's kind of doing this top down Insertion of his own brand of politics From the right and the main line Democrat in the middle of just being squeezed out and crushed by these two forces. One millions of dollars. Millions of People Bernie Sanders the other billions of dollars Bloomberg and it's a part of this identity crisis of the Democratic Party in the era of trump. And so we just don't know until we actually get a chance to see a head to head vote which won't happen until Super Tuesday. Two to three weeks from now is this. Bloomberg phenomenon real a candid can't stop Bernie Sanders or does Bernie Sanders on a path as it looks like to the nomination. The first time a democratic socialist will have the nomination of a major party in this country in the modern era We just don't know but we have a big identity crisis on the Democratic Party and the era of trump. And that's why it's so fascinating to watch. Well it's really really really fascinating and last night was all about the horse race which we in. The press are always accused of focusing on but it really was about the horse race. People really trying to see what the personalities were and what might become of their sort of. You know fisticuffs overnight. Here's a little bit of a back and forth. Between the two outcome outlines who you just mentioned Bloomberg and Sanders. We have a grotesque and immoral distribution of wealth and income. Mike Bloomberg owns more wealth than the bottom one hundred and twenty five million Americans. That's wrong that's immoral to all I know is I've been very lucky. Made a lot of money and I'm giving it all the way to make this country better and a good chunk of it goes to the Democratic Party is well missile Bloomberg Wasn. You made all the money. Maybe your workers played some role in that as well. He is able to share the benefit. Also moving around the country. We have the best known socialists. In the country happens to be a millionaire with three houses. What I miss here. So Mr Bloomberg made the Point Vanessa. That defending socialism in a democratic debate is the best way to get. Donald Trump elected from your perspective. What do you make of this division this ideological division within the Democratic Party? When it's trump that is the opponent really. Yes I think I think. Senator you just hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what is happening. They are focusing on the Democratic Party is trying to look for. That candidate is going to be able to defeat. Donald Trump and daddy is very very important for many of the voters even sometimes when they come across and they bring their policies and they share their message. The voters are thinking. Okay which one of these candidates is going to be able to actually go and win the election against Donald Trump. And that's what mayor. Bloomberg is doing. He is sending that message that he is that candidate. But of course Senator Sanders have amazing. Support especially from millennials from a lot of the Latino community. Great part of the Latino community so. I think that we have to wait and see what is going to happen. Super Tuesday Rabea to see very exciting election decision election. I think the next president of the United States is going to have a lot of responsibilities. Not only with the economy with migration but also with the climate crisis that we're facing here in the United States on all of our planet so I'm going to bring up climbing because obviously you've Vanessa other I ever climate journalists to to actually be a moderator and we've taken note of that and that's one of the reasons we want to talk to. What does it mean to be a climate journalists for not? Telemundo what are you what are you doing? I mean how. How what do you see your mission as well? Because I'm a journalist and I've been working for not cicilline window for seventeen years and my job is to report what is important for my community. So sometimes it's politics sometimes is education. Sometimes he's migration but really over the past couple of years. I have found myself more and more covering impacts of climate change. And if you think about it my not communities here in the states especially African Americans and Latino are disproportionately more affected by the impacts of climate change so for me as a journalist. This is not only my job. But it's my responsibility to communicate this message to the Latino Community unto and to tell the story of what is happening to our planet and better to to tell them. How can they be part of the solution? Because we are fun a monumental crisis and we will need to agree to air for to turn this economy around and to do the changes that we need do in order to leave in a sustainable way so for me. It's it's important to to tell the story to my community. We have an investigative research unit. That is only focus on environmental issues. Skull Planet the planet Earth. And what we do. Is We try to frame all our stories on solutions. Yester- this great climate crisis or this drought or there is all the celebrities twice in but there is always a solution and that is the important thing. The technology is on the table. We have the resources we just need the wheel of the people to make a difference so actually unusually last night's debate did focus some fifteen minutes on the climate which is quite lot compared to the other ones and you did US Vice President Biden and he did mention as you've just said the way it disproportionately affects our minority communities underprivileged communities. Take a listen. I think that any executive who was engaging and by the way minority communities the communities would be most badly hurt by the way which we deal with climate change. They are the ones become the victim. That's asthma is. That's the groundwater supplies polluted. That's where in fact people in fact that do not have the opportunity to be able to get away from everything from the walls of our schools so I want to ask you both about who. You saw both responded best to climb a Vanessa since you asked the question which candidate was the best on climate. Well they all have they all have the intention to to face unto TACO head on this climate crisis that we're facing but I think the important message here. Kasana is that We have to listen to the scientists they had given US ten years to turn around and make a huge impact in the way that we're leaving the way that we are consuming energy so so really not to to to make it happen and to do what they are asking us to do. That is to reduce our our our fossil fuel our co two emissions by half by twenty thirty zero by twenty fifty. We really need to start right now. That's what these election is so important Vice Versa and by asking was what he was going to do to hold the excecutives of the fossil fuel companies accountable because we know that they knew for decades that they were causing irreversible damage to our planet and they didn't do anything politics they just continue business as usual so I think this question of accountability is something that many people want to know. What is the next president of the United States? Going to do to hold these companies accountable. So very wish we would have more time in the debate to talk more about The issues on the policies and their plans but But of course there were so many so many different topics that we need to feed into ours. Yeah but this is a big one and it did get a certain amount of time van. You oversee worked on green issues and green jobs for the Obama Administration so between that time and now how have you seen climate and the environment sort of become a real talk level intellectual issue well Deja Vu all over again? Yeah back in two thousand and sixty thousand seven. Al Gore came this sort of global. Paul revere and brought the climate issue forward and we had the remarkable outcome that new two thousand eight election both McCain and Obama both ran climate champions There was no. Oh it's a it's a whole. It's not real fixing to socialism. None of that from the Republican Party McCain Rand Climate Hawk as did Obama immediately after that when Obama was elected the oil companies and other energy accompanies poured hundreds of millions of dollars into moving the Republican party into the Denier camp. Not The campus. As we've got a problem we have a different about how to fix it. How much market solutions? How much solutions? But into complete denier camp there is no problem. This is a hoax and that cost us a decade. The most crucial decade in the history of human civilization and our planet was wiped out because of this a billionaire kind of buyout of of the conversation and as a result we have lost critical. Time is amazing to watch the younger politicians the United States like AFC Alexandria Ocasio. Cortes bring this issue back calling the green new deal and to see Bernie. Sanders Champing You know so passionately and those down become one of the top three or four issues that Democratic voters talk about. That's a big accomplishment at the level of politics but we are falling behind the level of policy and economics and mother. Nature doesn't care about election cycles. We are in real crisis so I am proud of the Democratic Party. Has All of our candidates. None of them are deniers. All want to do something. But you know We are in now a grave situation and we have a very limited time to deal this emergency for this reason and many others. The two thousand twenty election is not just important the. Us is important for the whole world. So I again. I wanted to ask you because again. Bloomberg is getting a huge amount of attention because of his billions because of his late comer status to the to the race but again his billions have actually gone to climate solutions. Do you think that whatever the other narrative or whatever complaints has about is money or this or that or NDA's stop and Frisk. Do you think that his existentialist issue of our time that he is? Actually you know. Put HIS MONEY. Whether it's mouth is is a good enough platform to run on and should be taken seriously. Hey listen. Nobody is more credible on climate issues than Bloomberg but there is no Democrat running against him in the primary process. That is against him on that. So if you just want a climate champion pretty much any of them will do and so. I don't think that you know the fact. He's a climate champion makes a difference in the primary now obviously when you go up against Donald Trump. We have two different theories in this party about how to trump one one says. Hey let's get somebody who is basically as close to the centre as possible so people who want moderate solutions and inner scared of trump feel comfortable. That's the case for Bloomberg. Basically we want to billionaire business guy. We got a bigger billionaire. Who's actually a lot more credible? I'M POLICY. That's one wing of our party looking for a moderate solution. The other wing says. Listen if you wanted somebody who's electable. They've got to be able to electrify. You've got to bring passionate energy and you didn't see passionate energy behind Biden. You may not see passionate energy behind Bloomberg you do see it behind Bernie Sanders and that's why you have these two different movements and the only people the only candidates who are GONNA be able to compete in the Super Tuesday all these states and spend the millions believe it or not Bloomberg was his personal billions and Birdie with his millions of donors. They're the only ones that have enough money to compete and Super Tuesday and so and so people keep saying well. What about this thing about Bloomberg? What about this thing about Bloomberg yes? Bloomberg has a lot of good stuff in UP AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. I think he's GonNa get a lot of support but inside our primary. He's just basically the same as everybody else. He's just got a lot more money. I will say this though you started this segment earlier talking about anti Jewish sentiment on the rise. It's remarkable that it is unremarkable that are to most leading candidates are both Jewish oriented is Jewish and Bloomberg is Jewish and it has not been an issue in this campaign at all. That's good is okay so so so there is something that is still healthy in our country the fact that it is unremarkable that we have to Jewish front runners is quite remarkable. And I'm proud of our Party and our country for that. That's Great Van Jones. Thank you so much and Vanessa. Okay thank you so much. How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's my Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid worked his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news and information business from scratch mayor of diverse progressive sitting Mike Bloomberg rebuilt after nine eleven creating nearly five hundred thousand jobs improving health care and public schools. Now he's running for President and Mike's the change. 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First I'm GonNa tell you how to live your life but go see you have to do it make it happen. We love you the money spent in. Us presidential elections as we've been saying is mind boggling to so many people and president trump himself says he is ready to spend a billion dollars of it helps him stay in the White House. Atlantic journalists McKay coppins created a new facebook account so that he could follow. Maga related pages join groups and receive messages from trump's supporters. And he told our hurry SRINIVASA him. What he you learned about. The campaigns aim to spread disinformation discredit journalist and even dismantle mainstream media. Thanks for joining us so I want to start with a couple of paragraphs in your piece. That are the worst case scenario after all of your research and diving into this story on election day anonymous text messages direct voters to the wrong polling locations or maybe even circulate rumors of security threats deep fakes of the Democratic nominee using racial slurs crop up faster than social media platforms can remove them as news outlets scramble to correct the inaccuracies hordes of twitter bots respond by smearing and threatening reporters. Meanwhile the trump campaign has spent the final days of the race pumping out facebook ads at such a high rate that no one can keep track of what they're injecting into the bloodstream. After the first round of exit polls is released a mysteriously sourced video surfaces purporting to show undocumented immigrants at the ballot box trump begins re tweeting rumors of voter fraud and suggests that immigration and customs enforcement officers should be dispatched to polling stations are illegals stealing. The election. Reads the Fox News. Chiron are Russians behind the false videos demands. Msnbc if it was ten years ago. I'd say that sounds like science fiction. Why is this so plausible to you after what you've been looking well what? I found over the course of the last several months as I was researching and reporting this. This article is that there is a new and sophisticated suite of tools that are being deployed right now in the United States by political operatives and various political coalitions to actively advanced this information that helps their candidate in the case of this story and what I was focusing on the coalition to re elect the president that includes the campaign partisan media pro-trump political operatives. All of them are working in concert to advance. False narratives fan conspiracy fear theories And basically to confuse and disorient the electorate and now that he is able to win reelection and you know I put that worst case scenario and the piece in part to kind of illustrate what could happen on election day at some of the experts. I talked to said that doesn't go far enough. The given the scale of the tools that are available to political campaigns and the brazenness with which people on both sides but especially those in the President's orbit have shown in kind of advancing misinformation. It could get even worse than that. I can see politicians on the other side of the aisle looking at your piece and saying. Hey how's different than what every president tries to do? They have the apparatus of the Democratic Party at their disposal. They have the power of the bully. Pulpit there they have the ability to do these things. So what's so different about this? Why are you calling with the Republicans are doing this information versus? What has always happened to politics. Is that people. Try to protect the power that they have by any means necessary. It's a fair point and I should say that you know every presidential campaign I've covered and certainly a lot more campaigns before that have featured a fair amount of partisan spin and half truths and outright lies right. We know that political candidates say things that aren't true on the on the campaign trail all the time. What's different is both the type and the scale. I think first of all the tools that are available now make it a lot easier for those lies and spin and half truths to travel around the Internet and and a lot of voters on both sides of the aisle are so firmly ensconced in their own information bubbles. That they're more susceptible than ever to this kind of disinformation without ever being exposed. To fact checks or information that might challenge the authority of what they already believe. The other thing is that we have not had a president at least in a couple of generations This willing to say things that are flatly untrue. I should say I'm not talking about matters of ideological opinion or viewpoint right and there are all kinds of conservative arguments and liberal arguments that I think are completely reasonable and I in my perfect world. Two Thousand Twenty would be a year where we have a big ideological debate in this country. That debate is very difficult to have when there isn't a common set of facts that most Americans are working from and what the the trump campaign is actively trying to do and I saw this firsthand as I was reporting. This story is to make it so that there is no common set of facts that it that people are so confused and disoriented by the onslaught of information and propaganda that they just throw up their hands. And say there's there's no way to separate out what's true and what's not so. I'm not even going to bother breakdown for us. What is the connection between say for example? When when the president tweets something what happens? And how does that loop work as part of the research for this story? I actually created a separate facebook account from the one that I typically used and subscribed to president. Trump's page that of his reelection campaign and then kind of followed the facebook algorithm as it suggested various other right-wing accounts for me to follow. And what happened was I created a facebook feed for myself that was that was completely filled with the messaging and content that the president and his allies are pushing out every day. And I have to say it's a lot more sophisticated than I think. A lot of people realize you know some of it is just sort of parroting what the president says on twitter or what he'll say at a press conference a lot of it is is actually a very slickly edited videos for example during the impeachment proceedings. There were days when I would be watching the impeachment. Hearing live on TV I would take stock of the the witnesses and the evidence that was presented and sort of draw my own conclusions and then later that day I would look at this facebook feed and see a video that the trump campaign created that actually took out of context clips from the same hearing that I had seen and slapped them together in a way that made it seem like the hearing had exonerated the president or that it had been some sort of major triumph for the president and I have to say even as a journalist who had gone into. This is pretty wide open. I became disoriented by it. You know I there were moments where I would see one of these videos and say wait a second. Is that what happened? Did I misunderstand what I saw in the hearings and I could see how easily people of faith who were not you know trying to just see information that they agreed with but they could they could become confused and disoriented by the constant onslaught of information and basically decide that it wasn't worth trying to sort out back from fiction and either disengage or just become disillusioned. How did Brad Par? Scale the person who was Trump's digital chief. How did he innovate around this? What did he do around the two thousand sixteen election? That was so dominant. And what's happening now? So in two thousand sixteen the trump campaign after after trump won the nomination they they kind of looked at the landscape realized that they were outgunned by the Clinton campaign did not have the same war chest that Clinton had and didn't have the ability to advertise on TV. The way that the Clinton campaign was and what happened was Brad Parse Calhoun. The time was the digital director of the trump campaign decided to go heavy on facebook and Google. Advertising basically convinced the campaign that we can get more bang for our buck by advertising primarily on these digital platforms and he made use of a technique called micro targeting that maybe some of your viewers have heard about. But don't know that much about I basically what it is that you take the electorate if you're the trump campaign or any other campaign and you slice it into very narrow distinct specific niches and then you can tailor ads directly for those niches and so what. The trump campaign did kind of masterfully was that they acquired a ton of data on voters in the United States and would break them into very small groups so for example if they wanted to serve an ad about defunding planned parenthood they could serve it directly to eight hundred pro-life Roman Catholic women in Dubuque Iowa and know that they would get a pretty positive result. Now they didn't invent micro targeting it had been used by the Obama campaign in two thousand twelve. The Hillary Clinton campaign used it a bit but the trump campaign was different. Both in how much it used micro targeting and how many ads created there was a five month period in the two thousand sixteen election where the trump campaign placed five point nine million ads on facebook while the Clinton campaign place just sixty six thousand so that gives you a sense of the scale? The other thing that they did was they were willing to use micro targeting and ways that we're kind of outside of political norms so for example in the final weeks of the race they micro targeted ads directly to black voters in Florida. A that said Hillary Clinton believes African Americans are superpredators that was drawing from the controversial quote. That Hillary Clinton had given in the nineties talking about Gangs and you know kind of stretching the bounds of what what she had actually said but they served it to black voters and Florida and there was a trump campaign official quoted at the time who said that it was not really designed to win black voters over to the trump instead. It was designed to depress black turnout in Florida. Basically disillusioned voters okay. So if there are going to be more. Facebook ads in twenty twenty. How consequential is the decision by facebook as a platform not to fact check anything to basically not hold the political adds to the same standard that they would hold if you and I were just selling a product that and that's a key point? I'm glad you brought that up because commercial. Advertising on Facebook is held to basic standards of truth in advertising. You are not allowed to run an ad that just blatantly lies about your product. Facebook will pull the ad if you do that. That's not true for politicians. Mark Zuckerberg actually announced last year when he was under a lot of pressure over. This question of how misinformation was spreading on his platform. He said look. We're going to crack down on some of it but we believe that we shouldn't be in charge of arbitrating political speech so if a politician decides to run an ad that's false. Were going to allow that to happen and leave it up to journalists and watchdog groups and opposition parties to to decide whether the the odds are true now to a certain extent. I sympathize with that because I don't think that Silicon Valley companies should be the final word on what kind of speeches allowed in our political arena. But at the same time when you're looking at the amount of information that is available on facebook the relatively scarce resources that journalists like me have and the relatively short relatively small amount of time we have to sort through all of the ads that are being posted. You start to see the problem here so I think it is a consequential policy decision that may facebook made at. I think that basically incentivizes politicians to stretch the truth and lie because it'll be very hard for them to be held accountable and it'll be easy for them to take advantage of the political benefits of lying on facebook with relatively little downside. So one of the things you also point out is that in addition I mean if two or three cycles ago we were talking about robocalls and then maybe a couple of cycles. We were talking about emails. Even if last year we were talking about facebook ads that text messaging is going to be an important part of this cycle. How right so until pretty recently for a campaign to include you in a mass text you had to opt in. You had to give your phone number to that campaign and say. I'm willing to accept tax from you. What's happened? Is that in the last few years. Peer to peer texting acts have been created which basically enabled campaigns to hire staffers or even give volunteers job and have them sit down and just literally CLA Click send over and over and over again and send hundreds of messages in the in the space of an hour and to the FCC. That kind of texting is not considered a mass texting. It's considered one on one texting which basically has meant that. Political campaigns have been on this mad scramble in the last few years to suck up as many cell phone numbers as possible. So they can then Send messages to them. Because of the advent of these peer to peer taxing absent because there's relatively little federal regulation around them. It's entirely possible that later on in the race as we enter a new stage of this election you could see campaigns or outside political groups using these peer to peer taxing. Apps to spread disinformation to confuse people about where they're supposed to vote or when the election is to run false flag operations tagging opposing candidates with with positions that they don't actually hold There are a lot of experts. I've talked to who say this could be a big problem. They believe that regulators will eventually catch up to it. But that at least in this election cycle you should be a little wary of any kind of weird political tax message. You got that you That you didn't sign up for a lot of stories of the last couple of years actually not a lot of stories that she say there've been a few stories about a lot of different websites that look like they are coming from a specific community. But they're actually not they're they're fronts and it's from a centralized place. How does that work? Yeah so you know the last decade or so. It's been brutal for local journalism. Local newspapers have been shutting down across the country. Something that's emerged to fill that vacuum but in a very different way have been these sort of fo- local news sites. I call them. Potemkin local news sites. Where if you look at them they have kind of innocuous names like the Kalamazoo Times or the Arizona Monitor. They sort of looked like local news websites. You can scroll through them. They have coverage of of local schools or whatever but if you look closer you'll see that they don't have local addresses they often don't have mastheads or bylines. It's not clear. Who's behind them? A lot of them are actually owned and operated by locality labs which is a company owned by a conservative activist others are run by lobbying groups or or even local. Republican parties and I spoke to one political strategist. Who told me how they're often used? Which is that a candidate who wants to get a certain story placed about an opponent. The local journalists won't actually take it. They can actually pay a third party to have their desired headline placed in one of these websites and and the average reader who's just kind of scrolling through facebook and comes across this while I have no idea that the website has a political agenda. They'll think it's just a normal news story. But that's what actually makes these valuable. Is there such a movement at this scale on the left? I don't want to paint a false equivalents put. What has been doing. This is kind of an open debate among democratic. Strategist right now. So I would say that it's much more sophisticated much more advanced and much more for lack of a better word brazen on the right but there is another information ecosystem on the left where there are Democrats openly kind of discussing whether they need to Co opt the same tactics that the president is in order to beat him in twenty twenty What I would say is. We won't have a really clear idea of how far or how they're willing to go until we have a democratic nominee but my concern really in writing. This piece wasn't with the immediate horse race or or who wins this election but what happens to our information ecosystem going forward because I do think if we get into a situation where both major political coalitions and this country decide that the only way to win is to actively engage in propaganda and disinformation too kind of tricks voters into voting for them. Then we have a real problem with the health of our democracy that will extend well beyond twenty twenty okay competence. Thanks for joining us. Thank you and of course as we heard the race for twenty twenty on the Democratic side is really getting quite quite brutal up there on the stage coming up tomorrow. The actress and singer Jane Birkin who captured French hearts at the height of the sixties with her musical and romantic partnership with bad boy. Poet Serge. Gainsbourg you'll know them for the erotic and breathy songs you. Tam One will take a listen tale so sensual it was indeed banned in several countries for being too racy and I speak to Jane. Birkin about her. Life's journey from British boarding school to Muse and star how she ended up having one of the most famous handbags in the world. Yup Birkin designed a name for her by him as that is it for now you can always catch us online on cost and across social media. Thanks for watching and goodbye from London.

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Gordon Gets Robbed

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Gordon Gets Robbed

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That's how this was playoff atmosphere. Anthony Davis running on the free. Throw Line Solo. What we just witness. I love what you said. Playoff like intensity after I kept thinking well Kemba Walker struggling to get his shot off and beats missing free throws in Yonkers to struggle. And Half Court happen you you you show that arguing among the players and anyone. That's ever played a pickup game. Knows is when you get to game point. That's exactly what happens. Everyone starts complaining that there should be a foul called. There shouldn't be a foul. They were intense. There was deep bench but remember this. The players love the new format. There's a new format because you guys weren't competing enough but you did last then. Let me just massage the question. I don't another guy going at the playoff resume of some players. Tim Cowlishaw to the. Va fix the All Star game. Yes I think they finally did. I never thought playing to one. Fifty seven would be so exciting. But that's what they were doing in the fourth quarter. I think it started in the second quarter after team. Janas got blown away. The first Jaanus was out there playing like rudy go. Bear to me was the guy who changed the game. Going out there blocking shots going offensive boards. Nobody does that in an all star game. He went out there and played basketball. And eventually as time went on. And you got to the fourth and Janas blocking Lebron shot that brought everybody up to their highest level and we we haven't seen anything like that and all star game in forever paged in the NBA. Fix The all star game fix the NBA. We may end up seeing the NBA using this raw phase. I think that they should it to the G. League or D League or whatever it's called Al and let them play an entire season and see what it's like and and actually considered fair sufficient games in the future. I do think there was a downside to things would be warn. The players. Look very tired out. The and that was because there were no commercial timeouts and they weren't changing people into coaches really. Didn't understand what they were actually supposed to be doing during that. Fourth quarter without any timeouts. I think that would have made a difference if you would try to guys back and forth and I don't want to see a game on the free throw. I'm sorry I would like to release the that. If you're going to go that way that you have to win by three points that way you wouldn't have a free throw not the game. If it's like a pickup game you know. Also you might want to take the referees away and have the players determine whether that's a file that's interesting the refs nearly scene. They didn't know exactly how to call game of this nature the All Star game towards you start with. Where would he left off that? He didn't think the free throw ending was the right way to end his game. Oh I think it was Tony for anyone complaining about that. Look at how we and normal basketball games. Sometimes you can the last two minutes of a game where teams are down six or seven points in their fouling to try to extend the game it becomes a free throw shooting contest anyway. At least this one has real stakes attached to and real pressure. We saw Anthony Davis. Who's in excellent free? Throw shooter under pressure by a mile. Felt like so. I do think that that ending works. Fine I don't think that's an issue. I thought it was a rousing success for the NBA and for the viewers. We were the biggest winners in this situation. And I bet you Roger Goodell and rob Manfred who got other things. He's got to deal with guys in going. Hey how do we try to figure out how to fix our all star Games in these situations but look you see the way they played intensity? Was there guys? Were COMPLAINING TO THE WRAPS. It felt like a real game and the field. Goal percentage went down in the fourth quarter because they were actual defense being played twenty percent lower in the fourth quarter. It was an impressive showing all across. Sola on the free throw ending. You are over there. I don't have a problem with that at all. Especially after you missed the person. Anthony Davis after the game tried to say missing on purpose to build drama with that. I do think a problem was. It's a forty one minutes to play that fourth quarter of actual time they might have played between fifteen and twenty minutes of actual basketball and thing about this. Janas team had one hundred thirty three points at the three quarters. They scored twenty two in that fourth quarter. And that like I said it was probably being fifteen and twenty minutes. That's how intense. Everyone was on the defensive. Anybody Woody page that the law could could apply to regular season. Nba Basketball Cowlishaw. You Sedan Shaken said. I don't see how you over time and what made it was. It was special. We all grew up playing pickup basketball. Where you play to a number now. He saw pros playing Donna. Toney I've got I've got a way. We can implement it. Adam silver wants to put in a plane game in those playing games to get into the playoffs. Maybe I would consider it but that that would be the only place. Also you're you're given woody. Would he's getting a little bit of a sedan owners. I've not all right and also the Kobe Brian. Mvp which. I can't think of your points. You had that immediately about three weeks ago quite letter for MVP. I slowly yesterday. No I definitely think so here. Chris Paul Jaanus wanted to win it because it was named after Kobe. Lebron wanted to win it but I thought it was desert. Alesha I mean. He did almost all of his damage in the first quarter. But I don't know who would be a better choice on team Lebron defense. We'll move on then to the dog cut all boy. Forget that I regard in has the most perfect dunks in history and zero titles to show for it. Forget that in the mix it up as we go along you chose the job over Taco fall totally unscripted and dagger to forget their job. Junior has perfected the through the legs. Dunk we get it. We saw it over and over and over again. These judging all you need to see is the paddles reactions to the scores. And everybody looking at Wade Wade. Who is taking its European. Set THAT RIGHT. There is all you need to know. That's when you take an earpiece out means I'm done here. Ramona had reported that comment had said all the judges agree that give a forty eight to get to a third overtime. I wonder what you think about that. Conspiracy theories abound. What did we wouldn't have Saturday night? Georgia Danna. I'm GONNA get accused of being the Miami homer so I'm just gonNA come out on the annual. Tell you that Dwayne way did what was right. This notion that we were going to go with a tie then have to try to pick it. It was going to come down to votes anyway at that particular point. Here's a couple of other things. All right. Aaron Gordon. We could talk about him being robbed. And because it was cumulative the the rules simply state they're not cumulative okay. No you're right there. It simply states that we need to stop with that nonsense. You had five straight fifties. That doesn't mean anything. The other thing is he tried a dunk that Derek Jones. Junior try and didn't do it as well. Jerry Jones Juniors Fall. That did that good and make it look. Aaron Lord has lost it says Angeles behind George the data. Could you understand your from Miami but you gotta get out of this Meriva one more Taco fall needs a neck brace today for his neck any stretch all right. Everybody wants it on today and I saw the first thing you. He jumped over basically a tree. How impressive is that? There's an easy way to correct joke over. The judge is like they do in the Olympics for diving and gymnastics have a nine point five directional score a lot but Georgia's right though swain. Wait as you know this weekend. They're gonNA have about an eighty celebration for his Jersey retirement. There's no way that anyway was showing up. They're having given Aaron Gordon the title ahead of Derek Jones. Junior I totally. I don't agree with it. But you said Georgia's rights Georgia's getting a point Calica. Where are you on this? Technically I would say Gordon landed on the tree and then kind of scooted his way over to get to the other side. Maybe that's still the whole thing. Yeah that's the whole thing is the show in the spectacle. I will say this. I don't think Jones needs to feel embarrassed that he wanted. His dogs are spectacular. And the one he did off. The side of the backboard was better than the one Gordon did. Off The side of the backboard. It was too great guys going at it. I do think Wade needs to answer about how that came up on Taco phone. Not every single judge. Look over at Dwayne Wade when that APP page. What did you see guys? It was a slab dog contest. You suddenly get excited about this. After all these years it was very good. Judge SORTA badly if I were in charge of it. I'd get only former slammed doug winners to be the judge's not hip hop artist or people like us or something to judge it but in terms of the entertainment value. If that's all it really matters. That was fun to watch. We complained about it the past. Maybe you should get rid of it. No you shouldn't get rid of it. You just sit there. Players that are very creative. And that's exactly what we saw so why you're sitting there. You sounded like one of us. Senator. George like he wants to French skating judge from Salt Lake City to be involved. No just let it be but okay go ahead George. I would just like to say if I'm getting accused of bias. Let's let's let's talk about Tim. Cowlishaw still being upset about two thousand six and Frank Pat Riley with this conversation tonight into this conversation. The MOST UNBELIEVABLE. Dunkeld the weekend. Who's the one from Chris? Paul and the game. He has six hundred eighty six dumps in his career but he's only on the receiving it for three of them and he did this one at thirty four in the All Star game so I read a tweet that said all with flint faced recently and that's an example of how helps them. Do you believe that is a plant based yes you do? Maybe we should be. We should all be on this diet. We'll be back by ourselves neck. How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're doers. What's my Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid worked his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news and information business from scratch mayor of diverse progressive city. Mike Bloomberg rebuilt after nine eleven. Creating nearly five hundred thousand jobs improving healthcare in public schools. Now he's running for president and Mike's the changing from chaos to steady leadership from lies to someone who believes in facts data from divisiveness to someone who builds teams nurtures good ideas and hold himself accountable for results. Mike Bloomberg knows how to leave to build to deliver to do. He'll win and unite this country. Mike we'll get things done. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate for president. And I approve this message because we need to deliver on the promise of the American Dream. Paid for by Mike Bloomberg. Twenty Twenty. Welcome back to around the warns coming to you from the Heineken. River deck appears seventy my trout the games best player and Justin Turner of the dodgers. Who had just a fling thrower at the commissioners today to the list of players wanting more punishment Carlos? Correa everybody's looking at L. to tattoo his collarbone. Meanwhile Commissioner Rob Manfred found no evidence not a single witness who could corroborate their buzzers being used during the twenty nineteen indeed that they were doing anything tonight. Tell you one hundred percent certain that It didn't happen. No the idea of you know an asterisk or asking for a piece of metal back seems you know. Sort of a futile act. Okay we are familiar with feudal axe every day. What do you? What did you think a man for its comments? It was the worst possible. He was as bad as the Astros when they tried to quote apologize everything he says made no sense at all in fact the most important aspect that made they'd be very irate was he said just a piece of battle well. This is a piece of battle. That's the commissioner's trophy next year. Doesn't he won a hand this to the world champions and say here's your piece of metal trophy? The guys should reside. I mean he is totally screwed this. He says the Boston Red Sox investigation will not be completed for another couple of weeks. Why did you wait until then if I say well? What about the Red Sox? Well they took this. What's longer to actually figure out what the Red Sox did is just going to carry on two weeks now. We're still going to be talking about this. And the players now are coming out and as a result of what he said. They're so mad at with the Commissioner was talking. Well the guy should right. What do you got the commissioner resigning Do you believe let's start. Beddington shoddy believe we risen to that level? Where this is serious. Okay I'm GONNA say no. So that makes me defending rob Manfred. Doesn't have to resign right now. It was a very uninspired performance by rob Manfred mainly overlooking the fact that his investigation didn't find out the things we've read about in the Wall Street Journal Operation Code Breaker and the things that were going on in the Astronaut Office. But he said one important thing real quick and that is the reason they didn't go after the players. It's just they. Were GONNA lose those grievances because the players would have been able to prove? Jeffrey Luneau didn't do his job in informing them of what they had been told was legally and holds water to you all right frank. I have started with warning there. That the commissioner needs to resign over. This no did mess this up and I think the Tim's point about the players Mike Trout come out. Here's arguably the best player in the sport who never says anything even remotely controversial. He's upset that players did not get punished the players in this case. You're firing general manager. You're firing the manager of the teenage J. Hinch. Why aren't players being suspended for their role in this? But also say this about players. Will you this indignant? When he's winning the world series with known steroid users as well cheating is cheating and George Donald Look. I can understand why the players Tony would be upset by this. Justin Turner had some really strong comments. Basically saying the commissioner hadn't won anything well the commissioners performance wasn't great in that call ravage interview And Look he looked like he was clearly visibly sweating under the lights. There it'll sweat. They're above his lip It wasn't necessarily feeling the the context of those particular questions. But here's the reality of it. Man Frank is right. Tim Is Right. The player should have been suspended in some way shape or form and this notion that they had to feel the team. Well that's a minor league system for. Okay this notion. That you can stagger these particular suspensions. We've seen other leagues do that particularly the NBA. Does it during the playoffs? Yeah and last year I think ultimately if you're rob Manfred you sat there and you chastise the astros the way they handled it. You yourself to look in the mirror and see how you've handled this particular situation. I wouldn't go as far as this Asian. He should resign no. I don't think he should go that far but he certainly needs to look at himself in the mirror realize he's made solar well. You know it's amazing too. You have the commission because Dusty Baker rightly so is said. I need to protect my the way baseball work. The players police themselves so here he is saying if you start throwing it astro players. I'M GONNA punish you yet. You're protecting the team that cheated. That part of it makes no sense. We'll move on fire sale to the NHL Stadium Series in Colorado. Here you go. What he paid you were there. That's your life right there in the background traffic Jams Air Force Academy Stadium will normally take an hour to get there from Denver longer than three. You wrote in the gazette today. Highway to hell Dante's inferno and show brought it's game traffic jams and parking lots and also very serious note moist parade conclusion. The death of a fan falling from skybridge leaving the game two hours after the details of that tragedy still unknown. Wouldn't you've been hearing from angry local readers all day? What happened well. I know what happened at the end of the game when I finally got out of there about two and a half hours later I became the lift driver. I was picking up stray and they were offering me fifty and a hundred bucks. But I'll tell you what this is the fault of the National Hockey League. They've decided now they're going to put games of this stadium. Series at the Naval Academy which of our Air Force Academy does a very secure areas and that created problems that traffic in a construction area twenty one miles from Denver to Colorado Springs. They have enough food. They didn't have enough beer. People took four and five in the third period as you give refunds to everybody that showed up for that game including the thirty bucks is. It's been all right all right. It's lots of beer. That's entirely possible. Who's to blame for this woody the Colorado Department of Transportation for not warning people sufficiently the National Hockey League the Colorado Avalanche the Hallway Jazz Academy and me for all right. Thank you very much. Callous show is ready bed. Well that quote. Oddly enough it was every major failure. I feared that's the same thing I said about woody after my first day on around the horn all right. You've got jokes as well you know. It's a military secured area. So it's GONNA be tough to get in and out. I remember going to Randall's island when Paley played there. There was one way in one way. We sat in that parking lot for two hours on my father said never again guess what. Look everyone who put this thing together. Needed to do their due diligence on logistics. But what I would say to you is this. I live in La. We call that a Tuesday today. Thanks for joining Donald. And would he paid? Thirty seconds of facetime on the line will allow this first three points with Dino page good-looking showdown the cavaliers coach. John Beeline meeting today discussing his future. The possibility of stepping out if you're meeting to discuss the possibility of God. What's the moral here George? The moral is. Don't take a job with the Cleveland. Cavaliers of your head coach. They have now fired six coaches in seven years. If this ends up being the case we will add another one to that list. This is the issue even the higher. The problem was that he didn't realize what he was getting into that it was entirely bad situation and I think the moral of the story is. You've really got to look closely at college. Coaches there've been a lot of them haven't been able to adjust and it's to be honest the younger coaches and he should take a beat on town. 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Well I radi by the A for being able to talk already medef for the fact that he got replaced in the second half and he's going to be replaced that his last time with a team I'm sure about it and had a quarterback rating of ten point one. I I don't get him in a I give Rossini. Na Scoop deserves credit because she he deserves to take accountability take responsibility for your picks picks down thirty seconds of face time. I want to say Happy Birthday to Michael Jordan. Fifty-seven Birthdays Michael Jordan. Six time champion. Look Larry and Michael Company interested in the game. Michael made me. Love the game and I think it's appropriate that his birthday today after the All Star game where Adam silver did a fantastic thing by naming the MVP trophies after Kobe Bryant a man who also shaped another generation to generation after me so happy birthday by recipe George winner. Would he pays. You'RE GONNA Mount Rushmore of us. Presidents thinking about President All yes. It's President's Day. 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"Happening now the politics of Health Democratic presidential frontrunner Bernie Sanders faces over his decision not to release his full medical records while trading attacks Michael Bloomberg ahead of his first of I obey tonight bar threat. Attorney General William Bar Sends Signals. He may resign over president. Trump's tenure tweeting about the Justice Department. Tonight we're learning new information about their strained relationship. Hardening assange a lawyer for wikileaks founder. Julian assange claims. His client was offered a presidential pardon in exchange for help with the Russia investigation and foreign teen crisis growing criticism of Japan's decision to isolate thousands of people on a cruise ship. We're more than six hundred are now infected with corona virus. I'm Wolf Blitzer. You're in the situation. We're following the Democratic presidential campaign in a new dynamic. That begins tonight. All eyes are on Michael Bloomberg as the former New York. Mayor takes the debate states for the first time amid increase sparring with front runner Bernie Sanders. We're also following the public rift between President Trump and attorney. General William Bar over the president's continued tweets about the Justice Department tonight a sources tell C. N. N. that the two are cooling off after bar sent signals. He was considering resigning. We'll talk about that and more with The co-chairman of the Bernie Sanders Campaign Congressman Roe. Conn senator Chris coons of the judiciary and foreign relations committees also steady by our correspondents and analysts will also join us first. Let's go to our senior Washington correspondent. Jeff Zeleny he's in Las Vegas for US Jeff Michael Bloomberg in the front runner Bernie Sanders. They are really going after each other ahead of tonight's debate and Saturday's Nevada caucuses wolf. They are indeed. They are fighting over electability ideology health and even Wealth Bernie Sanders saying it's obscene. How much of his fortune? Michael Bloomberg is trying to spend to rewrite the rules of this Democratic presidential contest. Michael Bloomberg as he makes his first appearance on stage is trying to cast this as a two person race. Saying he's the most electable. If that's true Joe Biden Elizabeth. Warren Judging Amy Klobuchar say Bloomberg is the one who's unvetted wolf. A fight is breaking out here tonight in Las Vegas Bernie Sanders and Michael Bloomberg on a collision course tonight in Las Vegas. Mister Bloomberg has every right in the world to run for president. But I don't think he has the right to buy this election. It may be the ninth Democratic presidential debate. But it's a whole new political world as Bloomberg makes his debut on the stage sandwiches. Now the clear front runner in the primary tonight a new CNN pull the polls show sanders with a commanding lead. In the race. At Twenty eight percent overtaking Joe Biden is the longtime Democratic leader now Biden Bloomberg and the rest of the field are trailing behind ordinarily that would put sanders in the direct line of fire. And yes. I think you should show how you're gonNA pay for things Bernie but this race is no ordinary. One and Democratic rivals are racing to confront Bloomberg. Who's using his vast personal fortune to bypass a close up. Look from voters in the first four contests in hopes of raking in delegates in big state. Starting on Super Tuesday. Do you think Michael Bloomberg is trying to buy the Democratic nomination for President? Just just I mean what else do you call it? I don't think that when people look at Donald Trump they automatically say. Can we get someone richer? I just don't think that's what they say. Before the debate Biden welcoming Bloomberg to the stage saying we have a lot to catch up on about Barack Obama's record Bloomberg has risen to the fields top tier by spending more than four hundred million dollars in television and digital advertising presenting himself as a partner of Obama's the White House may your interest into Obama. Work Together it's been eleven years since Bloomberg was on a debate stage then running for a third term as mayor of New York tonight. The lights are far brighter on the Las Vegas Strip Sanders also facing questions over his decision. Not to release his full medical records despite suffering a heart attack last year. I think we have released a detailed report. I'm comfortable with what we have done. Just clear you don't plan to release anymore records. I don't think we will know. The question of health prompted an unusual back and forth between eighth to Sanders and Bloomberg. Both of whom are seventy eight on. Cnn's new day. A Sanders spokeswoman distorted Bloomberg health record suggesting he had a heart attack. She later said she misspoke twenty years ago. Bloomberg did have a steph place for a artery. Not a heart attack. His campaign manager blasted the claim absolute lie. So that's where these candidates are going to pick off where their aides left off. We'll have been squirreling throughout the day. We have gotten a sense of where Mike Bloomberg is going to be standing on stage. He'll be at the end of the stage next to Elizabeth Warren. Those two of course have entangling as well over ideology and some of those nondisclosure agreements for some of the complaints against a Bloomberg's workplace. So this is a new moment for this campaign a new dynamic. I am told by aides to the Mayor Bloomberg that he arrived here last evening he has been a practicing and preparing throughout the day. One thing his rivals have on him is eight debates under their belt. This is this first Gulf. It certainly is We'll see how it goes could be very very lively. Jeff Zeleny thanks very much now the latest on the rift between President trump and his attorney. General William Bar over the president's tweets about the Justice Department. Let's go to our chief. White House correspondent Jim. Acosta Jimmy. You're getting new information from your sources the White House's indicating the president is patching things up with his attorney general. After William Bar made it clear he may resign. Mr Trump continues to tweet about sensitive Justice Department cases. The president is still tweeting out those some comments that may antagonize bill bar. But the president is facing a new troubling storyline as lawyers for Julian assange are claiming. Mr Trump offered a plea deal to the founder of wikileaks in exchange for some help in the Russia investigation to claim the White House's slamming as ally president outweighs campaigning. His aides are scrambling to keep the peace with attorney. General William Barr who was sending signals that he may resign over. Mr Trump's tweets on cases like the conviction of dirty trickster Roger Stone Attorney General has made his his feelings known about the president's tweets. The president has also made his feeling feelings. Don't about the attorney general and his right to comment a source close to the president said the two men appear to have calmed down. I think they're cooling off. The president is still throwing his weight around the Justice Department. Granted Clemency for the corrupt and well connected like disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich Democrat. Who now says he's a trump supporter isn't he's. He's got a trump crack Chris. Paul Harvey Company if I had to vote for the president is defending his decision to Spring Blagojevich from prison. Splitting hairs. A tweet insisting Rod Blagojevich did not sell the Senate seat. He served eight years in prison with many remaining. He paid a big price but the reality is Blagojevich. Did try to sell the seat. White House officials say. The president is just being compassionate. The fact is the president is clearly against excessive sentencing. But that's not how the president sounded when he called for the death penalty for drug dealers just last week states with a very powerful death penalty on drug dealers. Don't have a drug problem. There's a new worry for the president in London where lawyers for wikileaks founder. Julian assange are claiming in court that Mr Trump offered a pardon in exchange for help in the Russian investigation the deal the attorney said would have been brokered by former. Gop Congressman Dana Rohrabacher. Whitehouse's blasting the allegations saying in a statement. The president barely knows Dana. Rohrabacher other than. He's an ex congressman. He's never spoken to him on this subject or almost any subject it is a complete fabrication and a total lie. But that's not quite accurate as the president did meet with Walker at the White House in April two thousand seventeen right after he defended Mr Trump on Fox News to total Brouhaha over nothing. The bottom line is that the Russians are not being accused even accused of actually getting involved and changing the course of the campaign. The president still appears to be settling scores in the impeachment inquiry pushing a top Pentagon official John Ruth who had worn Defense Secretary Mark. Asper ABOUT CUTTING OFF AID. Ukraine in a letter to the president. Rude wrote it is my understanding from secretary. Asper that you requested my resignation from serving as undersecretary of defense for policy rude had cautioned Esper- in an email that placing a hold on security assistance at this time. We're jeopardized this unique window of opportunity and undermined our defense priorities. With a key partner. In this strategic competition with Russia the Pentagon is dismissing. The notion that this was payback. That sounds speculative me. I I have no information that would lead me to to that conclusion. Now that's where this claim from assange. His lawyers at the president offered a pardon to the wikileaks founder. To senior White House officials who were in the West Wing at the time. Say That did not happen. But the White House statement on the matter doesn't tell the whole story. President trump not only met with congressman Rohrabacher. He endorsed him for reelection. In two thousand eighteen and Rohrabacher later told reporters that he was forbidden by top White House officials from discussing any kind of pardon deal with the president will. What's going on our Jim Acosta at the White House? Thank you joining us now. Democratic Congressman Roe conn of California's a CO chair of the Bernie Sanders Campaign Congressman. Thanks so much for joining us. Let's get to several of the issues that are coming up at a critical moment in his campaign. First of all congressman does senator. Sanders need to release his full medical records. But this Gupta has pointed out. The senator has released three letters. One of them says that the senators heart is in better condition than most men is age. He has none of the symptoms before the heart attack. We believe that's a full disclosure and that that should answer people's questions because he himself said before the voting started he was going to release more information. But now he's saying he's done releasing information about healthy seventy eight years old. He had a heart attack. What three months or so ago doesn't the American public deserves to know everything about his health? And and some of the other can all of the other candidates for that matter as well including Michael Bloomberg who is also seventy eight years old. They do deserve to know and I think Dr Sanjay Gupta who is trustworthy has said that those letters actually are pretty comprehensive and most people can go read them if further questions I think they can raise them but I frankly I don't think that Michael Bloomberg health should be an issue. I think they're both running. They both have shown that they're going. Crisscrossing the states Senator Sanders has released these letters. And I think they should speak for themselves because congressman a few months ago after his heart attack. He was interviewed by our Dr Sanjay Gupta and I'm looking at the transcript right now and he said this is Bernie Sanders. We will make the appropriate time all of our medical records public for you or anybody else who wants to see them. We will release all the records. It's a fair conversation to be having about health about age. That's where Sanjay said. And he said of course. It is absolutely so what I hear you saying what. I heard him saying last night at the CNN townhall. He's done releasing medical information. I think he believes those letters. Answer the American People's question about his health. It shows that his heart is in better condition than most people his age. I think you have to have some level of respect for even presidential candidates. Privacy's I mean. I don't think we want to have a situation. Where every number after health exam from your young age to When you're running should be released but he has released all the information finish ashore people. He's in good health. And we're not calling on Michael Bloomberg to do anything. No one's questioning his health. I certainly haven't questioned and Senator Sanders has and questioned. But I think the American public would like to know more details about Michael Bloomberg health as well given the fact that like like Senator Sanders as I said he's seventy eight years old. These had some heart related issues. He hasn't had a heart attack. Like Senator Sanders. How do you respond congressman to those critics who say this is very similar to what president trump has been doing as far as broken promises out there on the campaign trail for example? The president promised very often. He was going to release his tax returns. He still hasn't done so I don't think it's comparable it would be one thing. If the senator wasn't transparent the senator said he had a heart attack then released three letters from doctors summarizing his condition they describe in detail what condition hearts and they say that none of the symptoms he had before the heart attack are. GonNa come back so I think he's been a very transparent with people I think it's not comparable to what trump does which is hide the facts and trump submitted. A letter from a doctor saying he's an excellent health the most fit person ever Senator Sanders has never represented that he is just represented that he is fit enough to do the job of president of the United States. Let's look ahead to tonight's a very important debate on. This is the first time Michael will share the stage with the rest of the Democratic field. Give us a preview congressman of how Senator Sanders plans to take on the former New York City mayor. Senator has run a grassroots campaign. Mobilizing millions of people around the country. Michael Bloomberg today called on Joe Biden. Peop- you to jake and Amy Klobuchar to drop out of the race. I'm wondering if he's going to call on Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump to drop out of the race. I mean the reality is that people like folks to earn this Bernie Sanders is run. An underdog campaign. He's GonNa talk about how he's built a movement to fight for people. How's it going to deal with the issue of being a self describes himself a democratic socialist? Because as you know a lot of Americans hear the word socialist socialism they get nervous. I appreciate that and Bernie. Sanders believes if the free market is not going to nationalize any industry. He is an FDR Democrat. He wants to complete the new deal. Here's what he believes. He believes that people need healthcare. They need education that we need to invest in infrastructure. So everyone can have a shot at the American dream. And I think that's GonNa come out and he's not GonNa let Republicans distort what he stands for Ro Khanna the Democratic Congressman from California on the Senators lucky to have you as his co chair. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you for giving me the opportunity up next the tensions between president trump and the attorney. General William Bara source now says bar has considered resigning plus court papers reveal shocking claim by the wikileaks founder. Julian assange whizzy offered a presidential park. How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's might Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid work his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news and information business from scratch mayor of a diverse progressive city. Mike Bloomberg rebuilt after nine eleven. Creating nearly five hundred thousand jobs improving health care and public schools. Now he's running for president and Mike's Change. We need from chaos to steady leadership from lies to someone who believes in fact some data from divisiveness to someone who builds teams nurtures good ideas and hold himself accountable for results. Mike Bloomberg knows how to leave to build to deliver to do. He'll win and unite this country. Mike will get things done. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate for president. And I approve this message because we need to deliver on the promise of the American Dream. Paid for by Mike Bloomberg Twenty twenty more now. The rift between president trump and his attorney. General William Borrow over the president's tweets and re tweets about the Justice Department are senior justice correspondent. Evan Perez. Joining us. Now what are you learning first of all about the state of bars relationship with the president? Well well if I think Bill Bar always thought. Oh He's the only the latest of the cabinet members of the of this president who thought they could manage him that they could be sort of the adults in the room. Who could help manage where the president goes clearly is not so and I think dot realization has kinda come Come DOWN ON BILL BAR like a ton of bricks in the past week or so you can tell. He's very frustrated with the tweets and the commentary that the president has made even despite bar telling him publicly and privately that this is a huge problem for the department. It's a huge problem for the Attorney General today at the Department You had officials behind the scenes trying to reassure officials employees. Rather that the attorney Joe is not going anywhere that he is not going to resign that he plans to stick around Plans to go through some of the plans that they have in place. And so we'll see wolf whether this relationship can survive. What is clearly a very tense period? As yet specifically bill Burr. The other day that if the president continues to make these statements and these tweets it would make his job as the attorney. General impossible to go forward in the president has since then continued to make these statements and to continue to tweet and re tweet and very very lively fashion. Let's talk about the wikileaks founder. Julian assange right now. You heard Jim Acosta's report. If in fact he was offered some sort of presidential pardon in exchange for his help in the Russia investigation in all of that. How significant would that be politically? It's a very damaging allegation again. The President As we've seen the last couple of days the president has a pretty much on ending. Pardon Authority it is politically however a very bad thing if the president is is offering a pardon to someone who the United States is trying to extradite from the UK now the person who allegedly made this Who was trying to broker this deal? Denna Rohrabacher he's public congressman or former congressman from California. He has been public saying that. The Russians had nothing to do with the Russian interference in the two sixteen election. So we know where he stands. The question is whether Julian assange has any proof. Has Anything to show that this offer was made and whether we can even say that the president made this offer through dinner are potentially significant development will continue to follow up on that Evan. Thank you very much Let's get more on all of this Democratic Senator Chris coons of Delaware joining us. He's a member of both the judiciary and foreign relations. Committees Senator Do you think the attorney general is serious about this threat to resign wolf? I hope is. I think he should resign. Frankly the fact the two thousand former Department of Justice employees have signed a public petition. Calling on him to resign. The fact that four career prosecutors withdrew from the Roger Stone case after the unusual even unprecedented interference by president trump and the attorney general in sentencing recommendations for one of trump's cronies. Roger Suggests to me that he's lost the confidence of a lot of folks in the department and the president's ongoing public attempts to interfere in the independence of the Department of Justice should give the attorney general real pause and given the President. Trump is unbounded is now handing out pardons like party favors to the corrupt and well-connected. He should resign. Do you think. The Attorney General Senator is genuinely concerned about the president's interference in these ongoing criminal cases or is he simply of set that the president is doing so publicly. I think it's the latter. Frankly one of the reasons I voted against Attorney General Bar in his confirmation hearing was both his positions that are very expensive in terms of his view of presidential power and the fact. I just wasn't convinced in his confirmation hearing that he understood the role of the attorney. General is loyalty to the Constitution not to any individual president and I think some of the more recent developments in the Department of Justice have been alarming. So I'm concerned that this is all for show and frankly he's just trying to throw us off the set. What if everything knocking Congress do at this point? Well that's part of what I think. Is the tragedy of the outcome of the impeachment. Trial is that president trump having not just not been removed following the two week trial in the Senate of United States. But now emboldened we're GONNA see him behave more and more aggressively. I think in terms of coloring outside the lines operating beyond the guardrails of the constitutional system so I frankly think that as long as a Republican majority in the United States Senate will not in any way speak up against or challenge president trump's unconventional behavior. His threats to our rule of law will simply grow in the weeks and months ahead. You've endorsed the former vice president. Joe Biden in our new CNN. Polls as you know Senator Bernie Sanders is actually leading the former vice president of by double digits. Michael Bloomberg is right behind him. You can see the numbers there. Up on the screen How's it going to turn his campaign around beginning with tonight's debate? Well well if you're going to see a vigorous attack Joe Biden on the records of some of his opponents and a defense of his own record of public service. There are three issues that I expect to hear from Joe on the campaign stage tonight I is healthcare. He deserves the accolades for having been side by side with President Obama fighting for the Affordable Care Act Mike Bloomberg Mayor Bloomberg didn't support the affordable care. Act Didn't support the Wall Street reforms of the Obama Administration and Joe Biden knows how hard it was to get the affordable care act passed and why passing Medicare for all and taking the way great healthcare from the culinary workers and other unionized workers of the state of Nevada isn't what they want. Second Las Vegas was the scene of one of the deadliest shootings in American history Three years ago fifty nine people were killed. Hundreds injured and Devadas a state legislature has passed stronger. Background checks to promote public safety in the state of Nevada. Joe Biden is the only man on that stage the only candidate on that stage who has taken on the NRA and one not once but twice and last Joe has a long record of standing for organized labor. He was on the picket line with the culinary workers today and I think that combination of his record is a real Democrat not a democratic socialist. Not a Republican but a real Democrat. Who has fought for Labor fought for healthcare fought for protection against Gun violence? We'll stand him in good stead on that stage tonight and lead him to a strong finish in Nevada and South Carolina next week go after Bernie Sanders and Michael Bloomberg we shall see in a few hours. Senator coons. Thanks as usual for joining us. Thank you all. Stay with US more. In the battle for the Democratic presidential nomination will Senator Bernie Sanders be able to resist calls to release his medical records? That and a lot more. 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Humping factor is this medical question going forward especially when you have two candidates atop the field Bloomberg and Sanders. Who are both seventy eight years? Old Biden is seventy seven years old President Trump is seventy three years. Old Trump factor. Or it should be a big factor And it's a question of transparency. I think so beyond just the question of medical records and the candidates age really dependent no matter what age they are. It's there's a broader question here and that broader question is whether or not Democrats as a party have decided that they are going to play the same game as Donald Trump which is just say no. I'm not going to release things from his medical records to his tax returns And everything in between And kind of decide that Donald trump change the game and so that's okay for Democrats to or whether Democrats are going to say. No that is not the game we are going to play. That is not the world in which we want to live we have criticized. Donald trump for not being transparent for you know four years almost and We've said that that is not leadership and so we're going to act differently and this is really considering where Bernie. Sanders is right now as the front runner in every single poll in particular CNN's poll of polls. That is a question for the party given the his leadership status right now after his heart attack. David Gregory Senator Sanders spoke to Dr Sanjay. Gupta our chief medical correspondent and he said this listen to this for people do have a right to know about the health of a senator and somebody who's running for president of the unites full full disclosure and we will make it at the appropriate time all of our medical records of public for you or anybody else wants to see them. He did release in that original letter. A lot of details about his out but it wasn't the complete full medical record and some are suggesting that he was misleading. The American people sorta like trump does promising one thing during the campaign but not delivering look had a heart attack. He seventy eight years old and he had a heart attack. We gotta get more information. This is also an area where guess what news. Reporters tend to be a little bit annoying in this regard. But it's important because this is not an issue until it becomes an issue. Think back to nineteen ninety two and Paul Songas who's running for the Democratic nomination and he said falsely that he had been cancer free and unfortunately he passed away from the disease and he would have been in office and died in office and I remember. I was saying this before. We came on Tim Wrestler when I was at NBC always said that he learned such an important lesson about the importance of journalists pushing candidates on their health. And I think this is no different in and look pretty. Sanders has put a standard salary completely. Transparent you just gotta live up to it. Yeah I mean the Guy. Seventy a mother is about a one week younger than Bernie Sanders. I inquire about my mother's health all the time and I think it's appropriate when the Guy. Seventy eight in the Anaheim. Listen Bernie Sanders himself. Set set this in the also said. This is completely on the table. This is a fair a line of questioning. His campaign spokesman made the ridiculous claim that asking about Bernie Sanders health was the same thing as as a smear campaign about president of originalism right. Yes so I mean their stance on this. We'll see if it's sustainable. But Listen Bernie. Sanders key finds himself as a kind of different camp. You know a different kind of campaign or a different kind of candidate and here. He is going back on his own word in his own. Standard on we'll see if he can just kind of professionalism by the way great hearing it to questioning Obama's where lineage they're not even close Bernie Sanders if he's really ready for prime time he's got to have a staff that's ready but if he's got nothing to hide release the records and move on know that's all the candidates should do that including the president of the United States. He wants to be reelected president. The American public has a right to know how he's doing health wise all right. Everybody stick around a lot more working on much more right after I Tony Shivani and I'm Brad works and Jon. Moxley JOINS US on. A E W UNRESTRICTED. Sound like somebody. Who's shooting guns? That sound exactly like before you. Have you ever had like a shooting range? I knew here like pop. Who WAS A POW POW? So loud and reverberating off the garage door. I'm like what the Hell is going on in that. It was just people. Taking bumps rate involves AWA unrestricted listening. Subscribe for free. Wherever you get your podcast. We're back with our political experts India. Tonight's going to be the first time that Bloomberg is going to be on the debate stage. How will the other candidates go after him because his numbers have been going up? He's fifteen percent in a couple of our CNN poll of polls and you can see the steady rise with all those ads and we've all seen on our TV over and over again. They're going to focus on his weaknesses and there are many. They're going to try to vet him on issues. Like stop and Frisk in the way in which it was implemented in targeting a black and brown men something he defended for years and years and years even after all the practice was was ended. Talk about climate of it. Some women say he created at his own company of that they say was discriminatory particularly to pregnant women. So I think those are issues of that will come up and also this idea of whether or not someone should be able to buy their way onto the debate stage in by the nomination and the presidency right. This is a a big issue for sanders is a big issue for Warren as well so I think that'll be the way that they'll go after him. They also have to keep in mind where they are Nevada. They WANNA do well a with those voters. Their Bloomberg is actually not on the ballot. So they got a really use other time wisely. You've got some really nimble debaters. Buddha judge Kluber Char and as well as Warren Biden not so nimble in terms of going after people. But I imagine he's got to figure out a way to stop Bloomberg's where is because it's coming by actually have different movie reverence. I wanted to mention the internship for my son but I'm thinking more close encounters of the third kind where everybody gathers around to see. Who's coming up the spaceship and it's Michael Bloomberg. Oh my gosh what's he gonNA DO Bernie? Sanders is the front runner in this democratic race. -actly and there's a huge demand in need for Joe Biden to really go on the offensive here into not just worry about Bloomberg but to worry about the front runner at the moment and to create a kind of ideological contrast which I think Biden and Kobe and Buddha Jr WanNa do and if Elizabeth Warren's got any future she's got to try to reclaim some of that progressive voice. Which has you know she has lost in the first couple of contents go ahead. I think I think David said is is so important to remember. Of course there's focused on Bloomberg because he's the new guy in town. We haven't seen him on the debate stage Through any of this This campaign but that we also have to remember how much the dynamic has changed since July In the summer when these debates started eight debates ago which is Joe Biden at that time in the latest. Abc News poll. He was by far the guy who everybody thought was the best to be. Donald Trump He was you know up in doing better than everybody else. Now in the latest poll. Today he's at nine percent Bernie. Sanders is now at thirty percent. He's the the guy who people see as the as the most likely to beat or one of the most likely to be Donald Trump and And and before he was about Joe Biden is so it's not just that the Bloomberg factor. It's Bernie Sanders is doing well. And he's also being seen differently by Democratic primary voters not just as a spoiler not just as a movement guide but as somebody who they want as their nominee and that is no small thing. Yeah and somebody. Who's able to put together a coalition right? He's doing well winning. Among Latino voters essentially tied with Joe Biden among African American voters in does well with white voters. This is something that I think. Biden came into the race thinking he would be able to do not able to do sanders. Also has money and organization. So He's a real force in. These debates have mattered a lot. If you're Michael Bloomberg you have to do a number of things you have to somehow confront and deal with the progressive moment. We're in as a Republican mayor of New York. Who'S A billionaire? He's got to be able to deal with that. He's also got to have a broader narrative of how he's going to beat trump and he's got to be a decent debater in what is still a big field when everybody's coming for him when he's not particularly he can get defensive is not necessarily a great debater and he is not in shape. The rest of these people on the stage have been doing meeting while debating. Yeah so for a made for TV moment. I think that matters and it's not so easy to break through that we've told he's been practising practising practising these mock debates with his aides and several of them have a lot of experience in politics. Having helped other candidates go through debates. We'll see how he does later. Our guys stick around. There's more news. We're following including this. The Corona Virus Spreading on a coin team cruise ship. More than six hundred people aren't in fact we are estimating Hickory. Cnn presents the story of the world's most famous Royal Family windsors inside the Royal Dynasty Sundays on CNN now. The latest on the corona virus outbreak in growing criticism of Japan's decision to quarantine thousands of people are cruise ship C. N. N.'s. Brian Todd is working this story for a sobriety. Hundreds of people on the ship now have been infected by this virus. That's right wolf. As you mentioned the Japanese government as well as Princess cruise lines the operator of the diamond princess are being skewered tonight over the handling of this quarantine when a veteran infectious disease specialist. Who went on board comes out and says he was horrified at what he saw. You've got a problem and Australian passenger films. 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Hobbling says his wife tested positive for corona virus and is now hospitalized. He says the quarantine on board not only hasn't worked. It's made conditions worse. They were going to quarantine Four thousand people in tight quarters Supervised by restaurant and hotel workers who had no medical training of any kind and the crew were not foreign gene and so they would could spread it amongst themselves which of course they did do our our cabinet storage for instance was infected and the US Centers for Disease Control has weighed in saying while the agency commend the Japanese government for implementing a quarantine. On the diamond princess quote it may not have been sufficient to prevent transmission among individuals on the ship. Cdc believes the rate of new infections onboard especially among those without symptoms represents an ongoing risk when we contacted the CDC wouldn't say whom specifically they blamed for that the CEO of the cruise line says it was not their call. You know I think. The entire operation from a medical and public health perspective has been run by the Japanese Ministry of Health. Could the passengers have been kept safer? They need to engage in a much more strenuous protocol of infection prevention and so that could have been achieved on the ship by By carefully keeping separation between people over in their cabins By maintaining you know social distances on people who are serving them or that all could have been done off the ship. Japanese officials have not responded specifically to the CDC's concern about how the quarantine on the diamond princess was handled. But they have said they believe the best way to have kept everyone safe was to keep them quarantined in their rooms. Japanese officials admitted quarantine is not a one hundred percent effective. But they say that's been the best option. 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The greatest rea- some of our favorite comedian from friends and celebrities to come and constructively argue everything within the world of Sports with my comedian sports fanatic wife. Megan Kelly and my hilarious writer and comedian husband's C.. J. Till it on now now so listening for the greatest iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. I love supreme is a production of I. Heart Radio Comeback Frame my role set free. Sabrina Prima Roll. Call Suprema. So I don't want to alarm or Causes Stereo. Yeah but all. The great talents were born. Aquarius Suprema. Forgot about so PREPO. Name is sugar. Yea Yeah I love McCoy Tyner and any rapper from North Carolina to roll hello role lightly and black. Ain't nobody yeah. Well it sounds pretty pretty much free. Roll Oh comedy called me rat. I'm on this show freestyle at the top. Yeah that's all pre fat free more calm Primo cold so my role. Aw Aw all right I did it on the end. That's ladies and gentlemen welcome to another episode of the Narrative Rabbit Hole in informant program ever created for music. This is of course love Love Supreme I am I love and I be six three Sat Out to my team. Supreme Crew. Sugar Steve who are thinking what five ten five ten eleven exactly. Well it depends. What part of me you're talking you'd BE A? HR Anyway and shoutout to lie. You would about five eight. That's Iraq I was GonNa say you more like six feet when you rock the the stilettos when Leonard When Leonard Kravitz is in the process seventy of you my way anyway take ladies and gentlemen our guest today pretty much have Music Fans and real hip hop heads. Mad excited hailing from North Cadillac. I think she made her professional debut. Or ninth one hundred dream merchant project way back in late two thousand seven ever as a member of the collective and also releasing. Can't forget buzz worthy mix tapes. She's pretty much been bubbling under releasing the idea. Beautiful in two thousand. Twelve getting notable cosigns from like Mac Miller. BJ's Chicago Kids House can be no of course two thousand seventeen lie. His wisdom Leila's Bela's wisdom riverside right. I saw the sort of senior named light. You Leila's wisdom Response from K.. Dot Andrews impact and someone else named black thought whoever that is the new rock nation. SIGNEE got her first round of grammy nominations. And of course we we cannot forget two thousand nineteen Eve with an astounding metacritic. Score of ninety. Let me just let you know. Oh medical like metacritic is kind of like it's an aggregate. It's like rotten tomatoes so a combination of everyone who's reviewed your product. You get a basically a score so get ninety is. That's acclaimed dash it like you. I prayed just to get eighties. Like seventy five to eighty. She's getting her. She's getting straight A's over here. You Know Ladies and Gentlemen Please welcome to Quest Love Supreme Free the one and only rhapsody. Let's hear yourself to. I'll be right. See running sixty you sign. You can go straight up from two things to the net. You know what it is you. We're telling us where you came from. I what I like the return. I feel like it's GonNa be a righteous return the goal yeah. That's something that I was not able to experience as a kid. I was in the plastic phase of late down. Yeah African medallion. I Watch Oh oh yeah I was. I was allowed to have anything back. I have to stop watch because I grew up. In the era of where they would snatch your snatcher snatch everything your sneakers necas. I couldn't wear Jordan's nut in hip. hoppy no kidding goal knew nothing so surreal but I could get a stop watch the white and what that where did you where did you. I've always liked. Go through the woods medallion stage with through that nation. But I've always he's been a fan of gold. I I just actually live. Rock nation and one of the security guards was like the history behind gold and Egypt. Was that the kings who love their wives with adorn them all. Oh this goal so you always see a women where MAG wisdom rock mission ashtray. Rock Nation Advice Games the new day. Okay you got the bank on the chest but then you will tell them. You've got the tripped on the arms but this is all shining. The same level of shine is not chess. Joins is thrifty. That what what does she got away as far as no not you know as far as I put it into always rock fake goals. Damakau got this this never. Td by Mary. J. Blige and Some Mon collection so he was very. Yeah yeah she did a collaboration alive Samal this is just the love. MG MGB collection is right here. It kind of got the double never. Td earrings got those fires. Google literally gone. So I buy SISTERLOVE MGB bringing out the credit card system last business we got the we got all right. So we're start start with every episode of course love supreme of which like I'm really interested in how your creativity has evolved throughout the years. I always start with the first question. Eastern is where were you born I was born in woops in North Carolina so small city in the eastern part of North Carolina Ana but I grew up thirty minutes from near Snow Hill North Carolina. And that's an even smaller city population. Two thousand like that's where I was born around a lot of woods as and and fields and you know going to the grocery store no shoes on like playing with your cousins all day in the dirt. You know shoot is out there so you will shoot them up. I shall be begun. That's about it you know. I do nothing more than that but yeah. That's that's how I grew up. I didn't go to my first hip hop concert to. Maybe I was thirteen. Thirteen months ago Jordan. Does that count. Does this all. We do talk. She was only rapper. Borough ooh that's my cell Williams faith. This is how we do is mentioned that so I have a friend who is celebrating a milestone birthday. So he's trying to have like a ninety steam wrap party and have his rap favorites and he's really into the nineties R&B the and he wants to get the most bang for his buck. Right the thing is is that mantell even though he's had other hits you know this this is how we do is kind of black national anthem. It is so to speak it's transformed to is like everybody's now but that's the thing but the problem is is I'm trying to push him him to get to get mantell Jordan more. He could get drew hill. ooh And I told Nate Hill. You lease get get four. Hits thongs on these BRO. So you have to pay extra behind me. Yeah you got to or. They're the same price. The drew hill. What are we talking? I'm sorry that's next that's next and there's two pieces calm girl. You forget what that's called bright looking at me like what you each get four hits and the mantell you do. Even though there's another hits you you know he's at other top ten and the talk show. Yes no that's Montel Williams and so let's let's not totally rabbit off the You know the conversation. What I WANNA know is okay for US snotty northerners that only more? Now let's keep one hundred Raleigh. Durham we know. We know like four cities. No my my family's from the Greensboro. Yeah Y'all know Charlotte Greensboro Rally quite Greensboro. But that's all I know I know like in Greensboro. I'm not to talk to any woman Because I've heard that at least one out of every four black women. I met cities my cousin where we don't want to get into the incident. Yeah no not at all so like what major city are you. What was Snow Says No Hill Snow Hill in Nagano? The closest rally rally the our way really. That's the that's the one that's maybe Fayetteville. Maybe yeah that's like an hour and a half where j coast from seeing it the environment. It was more back woodsy definitely like dust or like little house on the Ramsey number reference. Because I'm deathly ill. I don't know what to say in terms of okay there's when when slavery. Et and the Gull. Is that where you're going. Yeah when slavery was there some freed Africans that decided to continue the tradition of of their life as they knew it in Africa Africa by living off in the far woods. Like really my my peeps come from Mobile Alabama so they start Africa town and practice. Your original did that. Also the cheese and and North Carolina wouldn't people so I was trying to dot is does move. Yes yes yes easiest. is now that the bro Hug like that. Come on look at me. Like I'm they use the corner store it okay I see You gotta ask about the second half option redeemers up. How how? How big WHO's your household like are you the only child or I'm one of five three oldest sister's wedding younger brother? My brother are a year apart. I'm I'm the knee. Hey baby which is next to last. That's that's some country. She yeah knee baby So I'm next to last so yeah for sure are you. UV overachiever the family I think we all overachievers. I'm probably second line though the the middle child my sister Amanda she was Valedictorian. You you know she just did everything right but I. I am the overachiever now. Because I always feel like the middle child or the indistinguishable. He's yeah okay. Yeah I'm the last girl. All of us do go like I could say my parents do was your first musical memory. That concert no no your first musical. My first musical memory was Michael Jackson. That's Oh oh. Music is Michael Jackson. So that's what had me hooked from jumped like man in the mirror. The girl is mine all all of that like me and my dad would sit up on like Saturday mornings and watch video tape them on vhs and you know we watch him again. During yes I do that I watch. MTV wraps like those my my big memories but it all started with like arm b-e-n-s-o-n music so Saturday mornings cleaning up the my mom's playing Tina Turner Patty the bail l.. My Dad is a huge Luther Vandross fan so I've heard every Luther Vandross song that there is known to man but those those are my first musical memories. Remember the first album that you purchased that I have house but the AL met you want. It was the first album you purchased the first one I purchase was liaise verse album but a number. The first album that I owned was warned. JEEZ regulate but my I ahead to get it for me because of that sticker. My parents were not going for that. She got it for me. That was the first album that I have at. The one I bought was a lear. It's called wrap contraband. When I was young I couldn't have a first? Ut album there wasn't he s S.. Crazy way the funny thing the funny thing was there was no cursing on it. But on one of those on Roxanne's version there's in Iraq San rise sandwiches like buried in South Siberia. She said like one term I e All you receive was a kick ass and then my dad liked just took the takeout destroy audio tape destroy which one it. It wasn't even like a big artist. Local group that I got it from fourth grade. It was like a skit task. Get a condominium basket. My Mama came through that door so fast four was a white tape tate with black letters but look I think I was boy. I survived that day. So was it a religious household door. You're I grew up a Jehovah's Witness Psalms Jehovah's Witness my dad was nondenominational. Still step must no no no I'm Inactive is okay. I'm more spiritual than religious. So Ya so man No no no. But that's always a finding that those who are in the entertainment business that have to sort of pass through the portals of of jobs m no right like have you found your brothers and sisters into 'cause Jill Jill Scott her face. Oh aw I'll just got to sound way with Td. Wow Yeah Michael Jackson job as student preference in general. That's a nice circle decide. We was the last time you went to Kingdom uh-huh Goldberg. I'm only goes past knees. Everything Full I. I've never spoken into someone or what what goes on most like the black of course with black churches experiences and baptises like but it was it was it more conservative kingdom hall light were Black Malls. It was it was honestly every it was like Bible school. Like you know You have you know of the watch watchtower weeks when we come to you so a lot of times they'll give you bible readings you go home. You go through the Bible Verses They Give You the watchtower. They'll have paragraphs pretend to a certain topic whether his life after death or what do you do about blood transfusions and read through the paragraphs at the end they have questions you go find the Bible verses and asks him and the next day you know they'll have a main person is a talk but they're like the preacher we call it giving a talk and then the second hour for you answer the questions as group. That's IT and he sing hymns albino collapsing for the whole talk. Wow does it just reminded me of when we did. The Prince Episode His assistant it has really Larry Story of Prince dragged her to Kingdom Hall and she was shocked that she thought was going to be like a black again a Black Southern Gospel hooting and hollering music thing and the music was very proper and you know and prince was singing it and she just couldn't use like who are you like where we do. So you're you said that Montreal was your first. How old were you when you went to this mantell Jordan concert? I was in seventh grade. So that it was Monte joining boys to me. Douse the first concert. I went to the first real hip hop concert I went to I was in college. I don't remember it might have been common common was. Yeah something like that. Where did you go to college? North Carolina State University. And Crowley. First this kind of the yeah. I'll say there on the east coast at least down south. At least North Carolina was definitely a common no pun intended. Yeah there's at least five or six college stops that you can make them wait. I'm about to tell you a story like this one where I met a Ninth wondering this ban. I forget the name. Oh little brother. Yeah forgot I have heard that story. Yes yes yup. Thank God for that reinstore. I want well I mean. This show is outdoors so it was like an electric storm so we only one song and I felt bad for everyone that stood out there to watch it so like yeah who was Carolina hip hop before her little brother before a little brother. Yeah what even men. That's like. Were there any to your knowledge was there. Anyone is where that okay. We're that you're asking asking that because I know that in ninety seven ninety eight ninety seven ninety eight there was a a major my gration of New York ranks rappers. That moved down. They're not special. Ed Special was early. Big Daddy came as early and they you were telling us back then like yo hurry down and get some property before gentrification like you could you could buy like a twelve. You've room mansion with marble. Floors like you you could get some scarface property like six hundred thousand for like cheap to them. You know. Land is it that way. Now or has gentrification caught up in I mean it's still pretty affordable We're we're growing like rapidly so downtown might get a little pricey but compared to up here still cheap now. What city do you live now? Rally now okay. So are you as consider that home. That's where you would like to stay. No I wanted to say. Is that where you WANNA die call. Oh No title settle down. Down is a better word I would. I would like to Settle Down Carolina but I definitely want to move. I've been near my whole life. I WANNA live in New York. I wanted to experience. La like maybe go to Africa for a little bit ocean. You haven't done it yet. South Africa I I if I could take all my family I moved. They're using the type that was circle. Back and Reinvest in whatever Carolina has gone on. Oh definitely definitely yes home. Always so gotTa Reinvest at home. This is sugar. Steve From Inquest Love Supreme. Here to tell you about policy genius the thought of Insurance is nauseating enough. So when it's time to get some you're gonNA want policy genius. The most technologically advanced way of shopping for home insurance. You know how it goes. You don't want to spend the money but you have do so at least you can get the best price. 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Sonos move okay. So now they have a portable speaker that you can control with your wife find and you Bluetooth like I'm GonNA use use my phone and play whatever song from whatever streaming service that I like a heart and I can hear everything you know so now when my mother the comes to visit me she ain't the only one that can listen to her music on the Nice Sono system a I know you want one and you've been waiting. Well there are no more coca. She was Lozano's move. And if you don't like an average you can put it in that room. And if you like in that room you can put it in that room. And if you only got one. Room is perfect. The GO-TO TUNNELS DOT COM to learn more. What was your come to Jesus moment as far as knowing knowing that you had something as far as love for hip hop culture like this is what I WANNA do? I feel like that that was early like I was around ten eleven like I fell in love with the when I saw MC lies Paul George video so. That's the first time I saw female doing. It's just like your called Shinjuku. That was the first time I was like. Wow what is this and then you know you you get more into it You Know Listening Warren G. Like I say Elliot's hip-hop Flavor Style Queen Latifah than you know listen. Jj reasonable doubt. But it was Lauren Hill. That really really lock me and I saw the food. The food is score. I knew what I wanted to do then I saw how did you say it's it's funny. I always want to ask you because you said that the score was your shit put. Nobody ever says anything about blended VOCAB VOCABULARY REMIX Iraq okay. Here's a little one. I've heard blown reality in its entirety. I couldn't get more not so much. I'm I manage. It wasn't no no no US love all right. I'm GonNa tell you a little story in a way we weren't we weren't beginning now all right. Here's the deal. Yes yes. There was now that I'm older and wiser. I know not to react off ninth hand. Dan Information Okay. Listen Up and visit me closer to my fifties. Then you know like that Dave Chapelle gets where like you you know. twenty-three-year-old is talking versus me. Now it was just that yes I I felt some sort of way. It's okay do like we were on tour together and it was Doggie dog territory and they got out of the gate. I came out a score. came out in like February of ninety six and a half life came out September ninety six so they got out the gate I had three. They sold eleven million by the time we came out but cat I was a little salty. He really yeah. I was salty. EVATT their show slowly started to morph into our show which you know when they first came out it was about the ritual well with the Voodoo rituals and all those things represented Haiti. Yes they were lighting candles and something that would he saying. But it's okay talk series. I don't remember I remember them. Rambling Japanese No. No no no. Oh Do Wycliffe used to intern. So here's the deal. My last last day Internet Rafael's records which coincidentally was Santiago's first day. Santi was my replacement foul says the enter and and upon leaving Kris Wirtz Science said. Hey I know you guys have a sign party for you. Guys signing to Geffen Records How many actually having we're like well we got the damage? Gangstar is going to come perform some local philly acts. We're really full. But then I thought he did give me that money for for his video. Wow what's up. And he says Yo we got a group that SORTA like in the lane of you guys can make. Do you know like two or three songs. Whatever okay I did it? So here's the thing they get. hit the sound check and the first thing I said was now. Let me let me just preface by saying that I was the family. DVR DVR SO is my job my uncles my aunts and my mom and everyone really didn't know much about programming a VCR and and someone had to program all their stories so every Friday. Add to come and reprogram so they watch their stories during the week on VCR. So I was very familiar with all the soap operas so when she walked in the World Oh taste and see what I was calling out like. I think she was expected in sister. Act Two but I was like. Oh yeah big deal. She looked at me. I didn't realize that like about the bill. You cover that a professional soap opera actress so no and we became cool and we toured together but the thing when they first started they were like lighten the stage with sages. And and you know D- AH finished. Why clubs are planning tar like? I think what we showed them what we showed them was that. Oh you can sort of do like the Kariuki key hip hop tribute thing which you know once we have one thing I think it was like okay. Third Verse we're GonNa Rhyme over this care break and the second verse. We're going to do a break over this black moon break in that and when we you know and as they started their May call. Why am I wasted? Didn't all right anyway hip hop history while you needed to know why you'd finish the whole score rabbit home anyway. So my my point is that I'll say that in one thousand nine hundred ninety six it was it was. It was very tense so it was hard for me to as as a listener to listen to that particular album interesting. He still hasn't listened to it. I do because it's two thousand nineteen gene. We're here's the thing it's so classic you can't avoid it it's almost like it's almost like Bruce springsteen's born USA. All but three songs are single. Also like I knew it all. How not but you've heard dancing in the dark over me? I'm on fire and glory days and like it's damn near thriller like you know all the songs anyway. This is not about me left supreme rap city. Anyway so I I I will say love it is no. I'm Mantovano minute it is. That's that's a nice fat. That's a good question time. No but I know all the Song Long. Dj like the joints Zell zealots in how boys day to throw vocab in the next party. Can we just get it. I love okay. I know I'm I'm just saying nobody does blend. It goes back to my original point. Oh yeah no no but I was saying that I record. I loved Buca. That was that was my join. That was my joint anyway. So back to you. See like Lauren Hell I Love Laura. I'm trying to get back there. Yeah she was a big influence. So what was what was the community like and the one question that. I'm glad that you kind of what I call Matrix. Dodge is especially when people that are not that familiar with you. They're asking all the time like well. What's it like being a female and and you know in underground that are but what was the environment? Because I'll I'll be honest with you by the time that like return of the the the Millennium By the end of the nineties into the early ought like I personally lien was rather shocked that there was a boom bap element or appreciation in North Carolina. which really something? Uh when I listened to a little brother Yeah Demo. The first time I was like wait. Wait exactly the same thing. I wish I don't even right so for me. Like how did you avoid what we up. North SORTA associate most hip hop from down south. Which I guess you could say in the nineties? We thought that South was booty music. Or that's you know ordered ord the early early stages of trap like how did you find a hip hop community. That was you know about the aesthetics of what quote real hip hoppers in New York. Strive to be for when I think people have us a slight misconception like if you look at North Carolina and we're more Middle Eastern deep south so lower. DC AND WE'RE GONNA. We're probably wanted to the states that have the most. ABC You so at the time you gotTa Stand Ninety five runs straight North Carolina so you have a lot of artists or or New Yorkers that are coming to come to school in North Carolina and they're bringing the music with them. You have drug dealers coming through bringing music rhythm so for us. It's like a melting in pot. Two you got people from Atlanta coming so you know not only. That's how we got the music like there was so much northern influence where we live just from the colleges thousand people that came through. You know that's a lot of what we listen to. So we listened to Boomberg listen to a lot of New York music but we all list to Atlanta we also list so think about North Carolina is just a melting pot. Like you know. We didn't have like a true southern identity like a Texas you know. But it's still car coaches so you gotTa ride communiqu at the same time. So I think that's what it was where you know everybody. I know like we were saying like they. They had they would've headbands headbands. They had some you know for the South topic at the New York accent Like that was heavy where I was from like my cousin call. This now is because you know the music again. Everybody from the colleges that were just heavily influenced on us. Speaking of A. I'm I'm jumping way ahead. But you mentioned car culture and writing and I'm just GONNA ask in the video for a eve to Hush Yup. Come Oh man. We made a call. Somebody somebody somebody brought that through like. That's a rental damn really but a video. You agree with the inside me Lisa Hill. I'm about to say something and she drifted inside out. MCM But somebody They own card people use videos and they let us they let it drip it out okay. I thought that was your personal ride. We ask you know you will be there. Let's start for me imposes effects but when you you probably won't want in a car with mcm. All of it. I don't know that's kind of fire. The seats come visit. This is a lesson Asan give them to my show. Listen this is the lesson that I want anyone listening to learn for twenty twenty that most of the times we come a modest and humble and we need to me we need to be more about I am as opposed to. I am me to own it on it instead of one of these days. We'll get there but you know this is funny because the three of us have that whole twenty four hours between our birthday so I'm really taking taking this to heart because I know that's who you really are. You're not any way you know you're you're born. Why am I fighting a day? I was born now fighting. That what you said is a big deal for we usually aquarium. Varian sometimes can be like I wouldn't be our dope as fuck instead of being like I am aquarium. That's something I'm working on the high collaborations and really owning a medicines. I am stoned right now. I am stone I am so what was the major at NC State County. Yes really together because you know why because I was a mass comm major always told like the younger kids when I say when you go back when you go to school like intern your passion but do some have some kind of business is major and learn all the information you do know numbers wise and formula. So you can you are business. You need to know how to run it so when I get my taxes done you know the lane goal. Oh whatever but I wish I'd done marketing if I was okay one. I wish I had the marketing but I did it because I was good at numbers my sister went to school for accounting. You know growing up at the South Alpha like get a job get married and get a job like an account a doctor since I. I'm good with numbers on the do that. But I'm way more creative than I am with numbers but I didn't figure doubt that that's not what I wanted to do until my junior and I was trying to transfer to NYU until. I saw that state tuition so I choose to relaxed. I try to be New York college student and wasn't I wasn't too successful. Notice the difference between the SPCA tuition in. I and I'm going to be here at Morgan State. Then I'll know some of the HPC now pricey well smells when the leader of the Yes. Morehouse I went to Clark so that they have no more than that in D. Spelman does every more that c word one hundred million dollars donation. I don't know what they did with that money. I don't have enough hurt. His wife's name is on the building anymore. The C the word Doctor Hook Yeah we still have duct tape right okay. Enough cosby jokes over over the years to start now you now. You can't say which always talking about. And what prompted the desire to go to New York like. What did you so you're seeing by junior year? You wanted to get more serious about your music career. Definitely I didn't know at that point or we were we were just. It was more H. Two O. was organization before the HIP hop group. So explain what they choose the hip hop organization that we started on campus Where we we would throw rattles and free shows and you you know we do fundraisers we did one for Jay Bilas Lupus so it was just something for us to infuse hip hop on campus? And you get to use all the campus You know speakers speakers and all of that for free so you know that's what it was so you know anybody on campus and we extended to to the community could be a part of the organization but but you know there were five of us that just hung out more The music together more we ended up becoming Kula. Okay that's that that's how that kind of so called the is that collective as opposed to a group per se. Yep Okay collective. They can't yeah. How did you grab the attention of of knife wonder at this time this summer? And and H two organization. We're doing a mix tape so you know. We got people from the campus from the community. Everybody does something on this particular. Mix Tape I wrote and recorded my first Tucson. My my best friend knew that you know I love hip hop wanted to wrap so he was just like you'll just do it for the final buying on judge you. So do this This these two songs on the mix tape and another guy in the organization at the time is shadowing knife like you learn. Learn how to lose fruity loops and all this. So he's like a knife you know. I got this organization. All these kids demand coming to talk to US knife is like yeah so we go to you. You know this guy is. His name is fuller in Cooley. High we went to his house is probably like fifteen to twenty of us. Nine comes at the time. He plays US Snippets of the MINSTREL show. Because it's not out yet. I get to hear genius. He's telling us about you. Know How got with Jay and recorded threat like you you know which is all these kids like can't fire in you know 'cause he's at the time for us like the biggest thing for North Carolina outside Petey Pablo and after that he listens to the mix tape ape top to bottom and when he gets to my song he it just called his ear automatic. He listened to it probably ten times in a row and song list to a broader. What you heard but it's I? It's called the life. Yeah the life and He was like he he looked at everybody. And it's time like we got people that are in groups that have been doing music for years at a guy showed that a traveling and he goes. That's your star right there. Oh I remember him. Speaking on you early I mean way before social media like on key player and like other platforms Paxton. Whatever that he's like? Oh I found the one I got like He. He was super early. You know with with with planting the seeds with with taking your name out there but I mean at the time what would you who were your your your idols. Release your the. Mc's that you kind of looked up to as far as like getting your style from. And at that I want to. I want to ask like who your top five rapper. But I mean like this at that I went through different phases of discovery. Just because of who our where I was from like Venus no hill. It wasn't like you know like I say you go to a Lotta hip hop shows. We had like a record store in a corner. I could just go get CDs so a lot of like hip hop artists. I I might have got laid on black on both sides. I didn't hear talk got in college. You know also at this time my my face. Jay is still my favorite rapper. But now I'm getting really deep in the most death and on this and the common Resurrection so to to live quietly like I'm really avenue to their catalogs and their my biggest influences at this You know dog growing up you know instill Lawrence. I listened to Lorin Queen Latifah. Nas Is Biggie Jay. But at this time I'm really getting into the rockets out so then at that point. That's my biggest influence. Okay Yeah with what night third hurt like. How long was it until you to collaborated on his His his celtics at the time he said that this was maybe like emergent bowling to write volume. Two two thousand seven hundred so I met him and he heard those two songs like September Timber October. Two Thousand and five We did our first song together. Maybe like five or six months after that Tab One and Cooley high hit knife during Christmas one time. He's like ninth jokingly throw some beets and he just I am three beasts like Merry Christmas so those were the I songs that I got to ramble of his The first then the next song where you know he was like come to the studio like he always Kinda took us under his wing. It just be random like I would be at work at foot action and I get a text like Yo Naito's pull up at the studio just out the blue so I'm just I'm like I gotta go like I was I was like I gotta go and nate. They rely so cool and supportive of that heard you before they. They knew what I was a good worker. I was so good. 'cause they couldn't even front try not to interrupt you. Remember Gerard Carmichael Story About Food completely the opposite from North Carolina. Yeah his his people we're not to See his potential comedy. He wasn't right. I was expecting your story to go home and other way Yet so you're was was returning the Beagle your first your first solo fire Selo product okay. December January twenty seven. Okay Yeah So. How long did that take to to formulate and put together and execute? Let me see Assad with ninth in two thousand eight thousand nine and I worked and worked so we probably work. I just was recording songs. I don't think I it was like I'm doing a project that was just record songs and I probably recorded songs for two years so we worked on it for two years trying to get my Kadish. I still have so much to learn like I go back like tone in my voice inflections. Keep consistent assistant cadence or nor when switched in the right spot our house. He as a coach. Great night people gotta understand before nine wanted to be a producing one to be a teacher so he's automatically just still super patient So he was super patient with me I will get more frustrated with myself. Often he would So He's a great teacher like the way he explained things and broke things down and you know allowed you. You know to figure it out to like I didn't have to be perfect. But he saw enough growth was like okay. We can put out your first mix tape and just keep building on it. Like great teacher phenomenal. Did you get to be in in the studio and make the somebody's songs with folks in the studio was like sending. Oh no you got you gotta understand like one night one night creates he likes people and energy around him so and at the time studio is on North Carolina central campus. So it's open doors so you you might walk in some days. It might be twenty thirty people in there and so it was so much pressure for me. Because I'm the opposite when I create you know now I'm more comfortable to ride around anybody but at that time I try to figure it out and not being confident you step step in the booth and it's twenty people looking at you like what you do and then you know you doing it and then a older way right so he keeps stopping you trying to coach you and it's just like and I'm going to go crazy folks like Rodney or Rod digger like Matt Miller Reid. Jean Grey came and worked on. I think they we're trying to work more Phoenix at the time. I was there when while a knife or working on back to the feature. Big Shine came through Knife were working on some joints working with Mac Miller and That was that was that was easy. I was fine not Mac poured up. I don't even remember way. Year was might have been like twenty eleven. He was coming to see ninth. Whatever and just unique? I Dont you've met Mac. You know how open your Eh Gio has his spirit is so you know. He heard like some song and he was like Yo. Don't let's do. Some joints is just that easy like you know so when you collaborate with artists is more dislike semi a sixteen like or d work in real time with them sometimes and Is is is different earlier on it was just like you'll just send me some sixteen at the time I'm just trying to prove corrupt. Now now is different like for me to even reach out. I gotTa Outta here you on the song for which a celebrity is. If I don't hear you like it could be a new artist. I hear that voice. Oh they'd be dope on this and I'm calling you so it's gotta it's gotTa fit right a lot of times. I'll tell them what the concept is but you know. I don't like the box people because I want people to be as creative as they wanna be so in the same way Kendrick called me and told me like Joe. The song's about complexion. You know you know how it goes bit boom then. I'm not trying to pigeonhole you. So that's what it is. I like people to be able to create how they create. And if it needs tweaking and we'll work on or we're just flipping and turn into something else. Put a different beat on I and make it a new song. But that's how that's how create. PS It's hard to say that's my favorite rhapsody verse but damned adverse complexion or rule. Thank you that's awesome. Can I just ask one more question because you were talking about your show to. I'll thank you. I WANNA fast forward to either anything. But I just want to ask for four-minute on this subject because on that subject. How do you propose to Queen Latifah? Who doesn't do features like Bam out to diverse out jabbed? Yeah that's what I. Yeah which which judges only one minor. I Danish your. How'd you get divers sound but we put into a career we weren't he killed that I wasn't expecting that now? I I thought okay. She squeezing the hook or something. A lot of people thought when she starts being like. Oh wait he's Ramsey changing overflow the floor 'cause similarly like we had a situation where every dim owed big daddy Kane and every pool D rappers and and instead wound up doing it himself so I thought that's what you were headed to do And I was like Oh shit why he missed it. I mean when the last time we've heard Queen Latifah feature. I'm just I do anyone. Joan was super fire. I didn't I didn't realize how what was the. What was the process or please tell us the process of because this so I'm asking and I'm not no I'm not even being snarky? Here's the reason for my asking. It's it's a lot of times when you ask for wore a favor or verse especially from someone of Stature depending depending on how they feel about you and you know there's some people that like if Tariq ask them I'll say that eighty five percent of the time someone's going to bring their a game MHM But then there's sometimes when people just like maybe phone it in I've had we've had a few situations where the verse was phoned in an and person to person. Well no but it was just I was going to say not not do it again like I feel bad when it's that situation where you have to allege and so not yet like was this. Ask this question no no no this is yes it was that her verse coming in the door and that was it and no more. No we was it worked on and it was it. Was this happened. She invited me to a house on verse. I went to her home and studio. We talked. He worked worked on verse and got the Sonus All marley spine. No No. That's all I want to know. I wanted to know more or less. Like how many takes six and how many redrafts and rewrite and that's one one one draft shops okay can we. We asked about another hard to get person can can we ask. Can we ask about Deangelis. Wait I'm GonNa tell you this motherfucker something I started until you mean. D Love Him. I just one day. I decided to count the paces from my house to his house. Currently now mean d have been neighbors. I'm be noticing me. I didn't know that we were neighbors for five five years and then we're neighbors for ten years and one day I was like wait. Let me count have a doctor's appointment that's somewhere towards this grid. Says I'm literally GonNa Count The paces seventy six steps as well and albums and the song title. What seventy six steps seventy thousand? We've lived seventy six steps from each other for the last ten years and we've been the Caribbean that's crazy for the six months in the Angelo time. Don't take offence at this guy talking to me. No he not. Steve was like one of the many engineers some food and a black but see Black Messiah Messiah yet. So how I didn't do it. How did you get the ends a little on the record? And he's doing a lot. He's doing arrangements on the record so it wasn't even like listening like send just just this who he went in like. He's weaving bobbing in and out. Whatever notice how did that happen but by the grace of God universe? Don't I don't even know it on. It was all chain-reaction if we hadn't picked sample. If you WANNA get on we don't we don't get the Angelo like out the gate. I knew I wanted to do Tang. Flip because Nicole bus record that I read nine going through all the routine sample banks and he ended up picking liquid who swore joint. So he's like this the way sent to me. He's like what you're saying. Let's run with it so like well. If we do it we gotta ask which is blessing and ask them to get on it because this is bigger the biggest record. Bet We do that. Jesus says yes. so that that's a feat in itself agenda even let us do it and be like yeah. I'll get on into so we're in the studio mixing with Young Guru like light mixing and at the time like the documentary Mike minutes is out so they're torn soren so we're trying to schedule like how we can get jobs in the studio to get this verse while he's Torian while I'm trying to meet deadlines so he's talking to you. Know his man the handle that but you know oh boy and other phone says well I'm also working with the Angelo and he happens to be big fans of both nine hundred rhapsody and I think it'd be dope if you all work together so it's just like well. I mean what you wanted. I'm ready to do like a whole new joint like I'm like what he Akerson. Thaksin them the whole album. We could do some new stuff. I guess there's GonNa be like whatever he wants a he got some he can send it. I can finish it. You know and he was like not think I think the joint at you send Jessica you know would be dope so we send it to him I'm I'm flying all over the place shooting videos doing press trying to get ready for our so. He calls nine at the studio and I he and night have a conversation with a you know he talks about. He's a fan that you know. How much Wu Tang and the liquid swore and and liquor stores saw Mitt to him like it? Everybody has a memory attached to that song in and how much he loves. Because you know that was the first person from that he worked with So all these factors so you know he was like I love the record. I love to do it so you know we got him in studio you know. He likes to record on tape We probably waited. Maybe like two weeks Joe. That is record time. I know you saying two weeks seeks to yet most like but yeah like he probably went in the studio every day for like seven a even even when I was intricate we pay for the studio but when like we pay for a certain time even that was out he was like. I'm not finished. I'll pay for the rest is to finish. I'm just like Yo. This is crazy. I was wondering because Yeah I was wondering did his thing on tape because it's all of the vocals are very speed presses. They killed it. Ain't featuring nowhere else either. What did he do background vocals? And you said he arranged hidden. It is but he doesn't do background vocals away. He played with his voice like it was easy. Yeah and majestic majestic was ill for me as I did like a a mock cook before I knew he was going to be on it. Like the place. Hold it to hear him. Sing it like a lie Ally I was gonNA write some new like that in itself was ill to me but I mean people we look up up to our di Angelo's and and think that they you know that they're on another level but there's still big time music fans and they fall in love with something when they hear it and they don't need to change it. There's recreate it. That's amazing how do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do. We're a nation of doers. What's Mike Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid worked his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news and information business from scratch mayor of Diverse Progressive City Mike Bloomberg Burg rebuilt after nine eleven creating nearly five hundred thousand jobs improving healthcare and public schools. 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So now they have a portable speaker that you can control with your Wifi and Bluetooth like I'm going to just use my phone and play whatever song from whatever streaming service that I like a heart and I can hear everything you know so now my mother comes to visit me. She Ain't the only one that can listen to her music on the Nice sonos system. I know you want one. And you've been waiting. Well no more coca. She was on those moves. And if you don't like navarine you can put it in that room and if you don't like in that room you you can put in that room and if you only got one room is perfect. TUNNELS DOT COM to learn more. So I'm sort of given to your second album. And so what was the process in the decision to roll with Rock Mission for your song We we knew that you know as an Indie label. We can only do so much like budget in marketing. Unwise and really getting the exposure that I wanted so you know when we took the meeting with rot one. I'm a big Fan off gate but walking into the building and at the time Tom Shocker. Pilgrim was the president and you walk in and fifty percent of the staff of women is so is so many different coaches and we came in with Leila's wisdom awesome probably eighty percent done and they didn't ask us to change a single. Wow not once long. It was always all right. What do y'all WanNa do? What do you envision like? What are you thinking again? The music they never every eve they didn't ask the change touch anything and so to me like the energy and just how much they love the coach. It didn't seem like I've been in jail Atlantic before but this was this was different. This was all about coaching just music and they were really about growing with me like they wasn't impression to have a radio single or it was just like you know we believe in your talent we just WanNa how. How can we help? That's what it was. So that's why and how. How did you feel the morning that the nominations came out? y'All in feeling for you call. IOS Nine was the first one they hit me because I was in la so it was like five in the morning so he hit me. He's like Yo. Yo you nominate you nominated Want onto twice for us so I was like a what like your to be nominated with the nominated twice like that was Craz- I for me. That was just like people were calling me. I couldn't even answer the phone. I had to just sit back and reflect light. Yo here like this is a different bar to be recognized at the highest level music using a war of awards show and the not having billboard hits platinum records and to be in a category with Jay Z and Kendrick Lamar. Same time man. Ask not have craned nothing not even have the tight dress. No I cry out a little bit but yeah I was thankful that I stay eight of course if anything so I have to say that. Your your whole process of crafting. The Eve album is just some amazing asset. Like we're did the idea even come from for crafting this this album. As a homage to the spirit of the black woman in America in the world. And they're they're effect like where was the genesis and the born last last summer so much twenty eighteen. I was doing an interview for the Oxford. And Has Gotten Lamar Wilson. He was writing a piece on the loonie edge of Carolina musicians and so he was connecting me with Nina Simone Roberta flat Site like I was just like you know I. I didn't. I never thought connecting with them in that way because we just seemed like too like I just look I put them up here like there's no way like we connected but the way he broke it down like you're you're both so for you know you're both lyrical. You know you both reflect the times and talk about what's going on a community of storytellers. I was like man ever thought about in that way like I do come from their family tree and it made me think like y'all when I do interviews and people say who are you influenced by Queen Latifah MC Light Lauren Hill but talk about Cecily Tyson and I talk about Nikki. Giovanni Maya Angelou and I'm just like man when I think about who I am and who I'm inspired by Of course you have your village your mom but there's so many black women that I look up to and And to it gave me away creatively to show that there's there's so many different sides of me to you know people like to say are Kinda. Put me in a box sometimes based on the music that I made that we were in a studio in time to do a Yo. We thought like a party for Y'all just like burning incense and y'all listening to do and all this and I'm just like Bro. Like what are you talking about. Like I grew up on Luke I listened to Gogo growing up like from Snow Hill. North Carolina like he sticks like bones. Fall Li listen to everything so there were so many size is music. This is a way where I could take a different woman to not only describe my different personalities but also talk about them and continue their legacies and say that we all are we all come from family tree. I think after I did that interview like I went home and I'd always wanted to do a song about being a tomboy especially in this day and age and and what that looks like and I did it because of the way I I started. The Song Leah was alive and I was like I'm GonNa just call it a Leah and soon as I did that it all just click. Click came together. Yeah the conversation. It's like oh I got this song leader. I could do this. This this Felicia Rashad taught me about motherly love. Nikki Giovanni taught me to power what worries and blackness like. Yeah and the videos charge of your are crucial components to the vision of the AD. What were the concepts for the Or not the concepts but you know as far as like I personally want you to make a video almost for every song to. I'm trying to make you happy right now. We just did a Fini Fini I Still WanNa add to it it the way right way so so far. You've gotTa Fini Videos. Do you have for which OPRAH OPRAH EVE to hide Phoenix. Third one the next one. That probably WANNA do CLEO WOULD BE SERENA I wanted to one for every song like I see it together then Bertha Kit that you'll effort was disrespecting album which is the first draft. We had twenty three songs. You know we we. We knew is too long because people today can't digest music in the same way like they tap out at first I was GONNA do a part one and a part to So sonically you know we had this one in the part two was GONNA be. It was GONNA be way more so for more boom bap heavy I was going to be like Felicia Rashad. Dj spinderella she has a song who are going to get a sequel Harry at college I was like I. Ah Different ideas. That's all music coming. journa- route. And you said I can do to hear you. Sounds like maybe yeah. I was like Harris Adjourn. uh-huh name it but yeah so but this is I did like forty women as far as where you are right now like like what do you feel that your goals are like do you have. Do you have a five year plan as far as like this point from now like developing other acts or like I just make more music or definitely make more music. I think this foundation of everything but I WANNA expand artistically because you know the away our right like I wanna get into not only songs I wanNA write films. I WANNA get behind the camera and produce documentaries. I was in a in a rock office with Todd. Added Dave Brat he'd or be records you also you know I. I definitely want to try like this. Try and see what happens. just Do a lot more things artistically. I thought about starting a label. I don't know how I feel about that yet but me- means the Hilton. His son. Neko Bram he's a MC so I WANNA help. I'm helping because you can produce his album. That'll be my first time like taking that role just like really expand on that but always put now museum back to what was given to you. Okay I see that well you know again from the bar we really thank you for your your your talent talent anyways them and all that Queen is. That's what I'm thinking. You can't really say that I'm just speaking for the sisters thank you. Thanks for those things Steve McQueen was. We can say that to you. Didn't so I was just Jewish. Thank you yes have you been to Egypt. I'm because I'm not yet. I'm trying to get it. Yeah there you go yes I would do. That is for us to go. What's another episode gentleman? Thank you one more time rhapsody. Give it up all right on behalf. Half of a Lion Stephen Boss Bill and yes even unpaid bill in particular who incidentally is still out getting cigarettes. And he said he'll I'm back back home any moment. CIGARETTES HURRY UP. 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