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S8: Treasure Hunt: The Great Mogul Diamond
"It outlasted the reign of kings survived the fall of empires but after the assassination of its final owner in seventeen. Forty-seven all records of the great mogul. Diamond virtually disappeared. If you enjoy this episode and want to hear. More Tales of history's most mystifying. Disappearances subscribe to our series gone today in addition to new episodes of gone. Every other Monday. You'll get a special mini episode on off Monday's but only on spotify until then enjoy this road in seventeen thirty nine Persian emperor dear Shah led an army of approximately twenty thousand men against Mohammad. Shah the mogul emperor of India in a ruthless invasion deer and his decimated Muhammed's armies in what is known as the battle of Karnal. Muhammed eventually surrendered handing over his empire in Delhi. This empire wasn't only land but included something so rare tantalizing its true value was incalculable. The great mogul diamond. However this two hundred eighty carat gemstone came with a curse. Those who came into contact with a great diamond had gone bankrupt been exiled and had their entire empire thrown now dear. Its new owner was not spared in seventeen forty seven. Assassins broke into New Year's quarters and decapitated him. And just like that. The Great Mogul. Diamond disappeared from the annals of history. Hi I'm molly and I'm Richard. Welcome to gone the show where we search for everything missing every other Monday. We examined mysterious disappearances. The theories they spawned from the Amber Room to Michael Rockefeller the Costco paintings. To the address can language the roanoke colony to the lost Russian cosmonauts. If it's gone we're looking for it. You can find previous episodes as well as podcasts. Other podcasts on your favorite podcast directory. Some of you have been asking how you can support gone if you enjoy the show. The best way to support us is to leave a five star review. Wherever you listen today we will be looking into the seventeen forty seven disappearance of the great mogul diamond which arose from the dirt of a dried riverbed in India and became one of the world's most puzzling precious stones. The Great Mogul. Diamond had a brief and troubling history. It was kept as a testament to its owners wealth and power but it was never in the same hands for long. The brilliant diamond witnessed this exile of kings and the fall of empires but in seventeen forty-seven after the assassination of its final owner. All records of the diamond virtually disappeared. How could such a grand treasurer be so quickly lost to time? Our first theory claims that it ended up in the British crown. Jewels after England's colonisation of India. Our second theory assumes that the diamond is actually masquerading as another famous diamond. The Orlov now residing in a Russian museum but whether it's hiding in plain sight or the diamond remains in some other unknown location. The great mogul diamond remains a much sought after mystery to fully explore this story. We must go back to the Diamond's origins at the center of the Earth. Most people believed that diamonds come from coal but the truth is coal. Rarely plays a part in the formation of diamonds coal is produced by ancient plant deposits on the earth's surface but most diamonds come from the Earth's mantle nearly one hundred miles below the surface and when diamonds emerged from those extreme depths. Don't come quietly there. Spewed out through violent volcanic eruptions known as Kimberlite eruptions. These are extremely rare and it is believed that the less kimberlite eruption occurred more than twenty five million years ago. The great mogul diamond was most likely formed from one of these eruptions. It was discovered along the Krishna River in the Gulf Kanda Mine. In India India was the birthplace of the diamond trade which probably began around four hundred BC. In fact until seventeen twenty five when diamonds were first discovered in Brazil? India was the only source of these gems. These unique stones were quickly seen as valuable indicators of class status and traded along the Silk Road a network of trade routes connecting the east with the West not to mention early civilizations actually believed the diamonds were gifts from the Gods and those who found or received them would be blessed with wealth strength and good health if that was the case they must have believed the great mogul diamond. Would bring them immortality because it was so massive in sixteen fifty six when it made its first real appearance and written histories. The Islamic mogul empire was thriving India prusiene Emperor Shah Jehan whose name means King of the world presided over the throne and his taste for extravagance reflected this estes title in sixteen thirty two. He commissioned the famed Taj Mahal in Agra a stunning mausoleum built for his young wife after her death Shah Jehan also had the famous peacock throne adorned with gold and covered in rubies emeralds and pearls built for himself but he was about to get even fancier because in sixteen fifty six a wealthy general named Emir Gem. La came to Delhi and met with Shah Jehan to establish good diplomatic relations. Jemma worked for Abdulah King of Gaul Kanda India and was trying to broker an alliance between the two leaders. But he didn't come empty-handed among his gifts for the emperor was the great diamond at the time it was the largest diamond ever discovered in its rough original state. This stone way to wapping seven hundred eighty seven and a half carrots. That's equal to more than one hundred and fifty seven grams about as heavy as a billiards ball or half as heavy as a human heart. That's huge the average size for an engagement ring in the US in two thousand seventeen was zero point nine carrots so not even one carat and that size goes for about six thousand dollars depending on design retailer and other factors to give vague sense of its value. One of the largest diamonds ever sold at auction one hundred and eighteen carat diamond a fraction of the size of the great mogul. That went for thirty point. Six million dollars in two thousand thirteen as for what it looked like it has been described as an egg cut in half. The top end formed a cone shape. The opposite end a flat circle. This shape was referred to as a rose cut because the shape somewhat resembles a Rosebud. Rose cuts are relatively rare and this gave the great mogul diamond and even more unique quality. Jehan was quite pleased with a gift but ordered that the diamond be cut to make it fit for an emperor such as he the stone in its natural state would not do. There were too many aesthetic flaws like lines and cracks which in jeweler speak are called inclusions. Ancient Indian text. The ran up periscope alluded to the importance of a flawless diamond. Saying quote. Wise men not use a diamond with visible flaws. As a gem end quote so Jehan hired or ten CIO born Gio of Venetian lapidary or gemstone cutter to refine it. Bora Gio began cutting the stone grinding away. All the problematic flaws but go figure the more he ground the smaller and lighter stone God after Borgias work. The stone was a mirror. Two hundred eighty three carats less than half the size of the original this way about two ounces as much as a staff of twelve nichols not a billiards ball. But still quite the hefty jewel. Unfortunately the new size and weight became a bit of a problem. The size of the stone was one of its primary appeals Emperor Shah. Jehan was furious so much so he wanted to execute Borneo for his poor workmanship but Jehan stopped short of that instead. He Find Bores. Yo Ten thousand rupees. Basically all the money. That diamond cutter had to his name. Borgias page gone and laughed a very poor and shamefaced man. It seemed that bore Joe may have been the first man to fall prey to the curse of the great mogul. Several years later in sixteen fifty seven. John became very ill in his old age. This launched a competition for the throne between his four sons. The Youngest Orange Zab killed one of his brothers and eventually claimed the empire. He sent his father away to the Red Fort. A Sandstone fortress located on the Yarmuk River it was basically a prison for Shah Jehan where he spent the last years of his life until his death in sixteen. Sixty six whatever happened to respecting your elders. Let alone your own father and I have to ask could. The so called. Curse of the diamond have led to John's plight possibly but we can also blame orange ebbs greed. He wanted the kingdom and all its treasures to himself including the great mogul diamond are exempt kept all that he wrongfully inherited in a special chamber in the palace he was very proud of it is collection. Caught the eye of a famous jewel merchant from France named John Baptiste. Tavernier Tavernier was a world traveler. And Jim Aficionado who made six voyages to the East between sixteen thirty to sixteen sixty eight. He wrote extensively about his experiences. Eventually publishing the two volume book the six voyages of Jean Baptiste Tavernier. It became a best seller and was translated into four languages in his lifetime. This man was so obsessed with diamonds that he traveled at his own expense in search of them and reveled in the opportunity to study them since only royalty in the extremely affluent could get hold of such prizes tavern. Yay met with a lot of important global leaders. He was known internationally for his expertise. Gemstones one such leader which Schaja Han Sun King. Orange Ebb who led Tavernier get acquainted with the great mogul diamond officers? Escort Tavernier into a small chamber where the king was sitting on his throne. Tavernier then met the chief keeper of the Jewels Cal Khan who commanded for UNIX to fetch the stones. They brought the gems out on gilded wooden trays covered with red velvet cloths to protect them such presentation and understandably so. Tavernier was awed by all this documented. The experience writing quote the first piece which CAL CON put in. My hands was the great diamond. Which is around. Rose cut very high on one side on the lower edge. There is a slight crack and a little flaw in it. It's water is beautiful unquote water refers to a diamonds degree of brilliance. According to Ta- Varney a the great mogul was extremely bright and sparkly to put it in simpler terms. It made quite the impression on him and he forever immortalized it by drawing a sketch of it in his book after this Tavernier's continued on his journey of Jules. Leaving the great mogul behind better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. They say the diamond remained with the mogul empire passing hands to an emperor by the name of Mohammad Shah in seventeen nineteen a little over fifty years after Orange Ebrell the region but it would not stay with this new leader for long. Perhaps we have the curse to blame for that because Emperor Muhammad Shah was in for a world of trouble. Could the great mogul diamond had been responsible for the fall of Mohammed shots empire? We'll find out after the break now. Back to the story in seventeen. Thirty EIGHT MOGUL. Emperor Mohammad Shop possessed one of the region's most valued treasures. The great mogul diamond. But that and everything else Mohammed owned was about to be threatened a bloodthirsty emperor from Persia was coming for the mogul empire. His name was nadir's born in sixteen. Eighty eight in Khorasani Persia nuclear grew up a poor peasant. He was forced into slavery but escaped captivity and eventually became a soldier. The military was where he thrived nuclear advanced quickly there but when he conflicted with a high ranking official name dear went rogue and formed his own army bold move definitely and it set the stage for. Nadir's rise to power in seventeen twenty nine. He freed Persia from Afghan control and seven years later ascended to the throne as emperor of Persia not long after he went on conquering rampage throughout much of the East which led him to just outside of Delhi India with a foolproof strategy for a takeover at Karnal Sixty eight miles north of Delhi. Nadu Shah Army of twenty thousand against Muhammad Shah's forces consisting of nearly three hundred thousand soldiers and two thousand war elephants. Although the deers troops were greatly outnumbered. Muhammed's forces had a disadvantage. There artillery was fairly antiquated. Much too heavy and hard to maneuver. Nadir's Shaw ever. The military strategist used a three prong approach dividing his limited troops into three main sectors. Using one of these lines of offense a diversion shock commanded an ambush and it was downhill for the mogul troops from there. The Persians defeated their enemy within three hours of the battles start. This was the beginning of the end of the mogul dynasty. Mohammad Shah soon handed over his empire tuna dear soon after the deer began enforcing strict laws and taxation on citizens. The Persian military presence was oppressive and soldiers were quick to punish civilians. This intern catalyzed an uprising. Civilians fought back killing the dears men when the deer himself wrote out from his newly claimed palace a man fired a musket at him narrowly missing him. This was the last Straw and it drove nuttier to seek safety the top of a mosque once there. He ordered his men to enter all the areas where Persian soldiers were being attacked and kill every civilian inside erased. His sword which signalled the start of a massacre around thirty thousand civilians including women and children were killed by Persians. After the bloodshed deer had his men plunder all the riches and treasures of the mogul dynasty stealing the famous peacock throne and of course the legendary. Great Mogul diamond. Sadly Nadir's bloodlust only increased as he traveled the lands to gain more territory. He loved war and he took pride and decimating villages and cities at one point. When told that there would be no war in the afterlife? Dear responded with quote there be any delights there end quote. His murderous rampages caught up with him though and he developed severe liver and gastrointestinal problems not to mention his mind began to get the best of him as he became increasingly psychotic. Time went on then in seventeen forty one and assassination attempt. Put him over the edge. Nadiri was convinced that his eldest son raise Kuli Mirza was the man behind the plot so he had him blinded six years later afternoon. Deers physical and mental states continued to deteriorate. Several of his commanders. Entered his private quarters while he slept wants there. They attacked him but he awoke and fought back. He killed two of them but the others managed to cut off his head thus in seventeen forty seven. Now Dear Shaw's violent reign came to an end. Dear left behind a treasure trove among the valuables. The great mogul diamond or so. We think we don't know for sure because afternoon deers death. The diamond couldn't be found or tract. Where did that majestic stone sneak off to? Was it strategically taken or did it simply get lost in the mix? One thing to note is that the great mogul diamond is only called that in John. Baptiste Tavernier's report. That's the name he gave. It many believed that the great mogul diamond could have become the Kohinoor diamond. The great mogul diamond disappeared from written history. Leaving no track record so when a similar diamond popped up in British records some historians in jewelers suggested it was actually that same stone making a reappearance. Let's take a look at the story of the Kohinoor and see if it lines up with the great mogul. First of all Kohinoor means mountain of light in Persian. According to an article in scientific American it was NYDIA. Who named the great mogul the Kohinoor? When he first laid eyes on it this would have been in seventeen thirty nine when it fell into his hands. After the battle of Karnal perhaps the great mogul was simply renamed by. It's last confirmed. Owner mountain of light sounds as though it would benefit anyone who possessed it however Hindu taxed claimed only a woman could wear the Kohinoor. If a man owned it he would be cursed another aspect which links the two diamonds making a case for their shared. Identity Bright Schaja. Jehan died in captivity after his son basically imprisoned him dear Shah was murdered by his own men in the story of the Coen afternoon dear. Shah's death the stone passed to one of his generals Ahmad Shah Durrani his descendant Shah Shujaat. Durrani eventually got a hold of the diamond and brought it back to India in eighteen thirteen in the early nineteenth century. The kohinoor diamond passed his shy Shia Aghanistan who had inherited it now the Maharaja of Punjab India a man by the name of Ranjit Singh got wind of the Kohinoor Prestige. And he wanted it badly. He tried to strike a deal with the Afghan leader. But Shaw Shia. Didn't want to hand it over. This caused some diplomatic issues and mighty the political waters between the two regions sing stalled by lying several times. I saying that he pawned the Kohinoor. Then saying it was lost with a bunch of other jewels and after the third request he sent a Topaz gem to run Jeet Singh claiming that was the jewel seeing was furious at the ruse and in a surprising power. Move sent a guard. She has house to prevent him from drinking or eating for two days. She finally caved and agreed to hand over the diamond and so it made its way to a new owner yet again in eighteen forty-three duleep Singh. The last of Ranjit Singh sons became the ruler of Punjab and inherited the Kohinoor. He was only ten years old at the time while this was going on. The British of the east India Company and the sick empire were entangled in a series of wars for control of the continent. The east India company had first arrived on the shores of India in sixteen hundred eight with two goals in mind established trade and acquire territory in Sixteen fifteen. The British established a factory at Seurat eventually formed several trading posts along the coast the British established large communities around the three primary cities of Calcutta Bombay and Madras. But what started out. As a business venture eventually transformed into a military takeover the company gained a stronghold in the region and eventually began to dominate Indian government and education by eighteen forty nine the British claimed the ultimate victory and gained ownership of Lahore the capital city of Punjab. And guess what the British wanted the Kohinoor. They made this clear in the treaty. They forced young. Delete sing to sign. Part of the treaty read quote. The Gem called the Kohinoor shall be surrendered by the Maharaja of Lahore to the Queen of England. End Quote once surrendered. The diamond was put in supposedly safe keeping. It was weighed at one hundred. Eighty seven carrots which is almost one hundred less than the last week of the great mogul. So if the Kohinoor is the great mogul diamond. It would have been cut some time in the century between. Shawna deers and the British acquisition of the diamond. It seems odd that any owners would wanna cut the diamond while Tavernier did not a slight flaw that an owner might have wanted to remove cutting the diamond. That severely seems illogical. Losing so many carrots would certainly sink. Its value but there are earier similarities. Between the great mogul diamond and the Kohinoor once it was weighed. Three members of the British government at Punjab were tasked with holding the Kohinoor until they were ordered to do otherwise. One of those men John Lawrence would be the one to keep it on his person but one night lawrence place the diamond which was now encased in a box inside his coat pocket however when he changed for dinner and removed his coat he forgot to transfer the diamond about six weeks later. The men received a message. That Queen Victoria wanted the diamond immediately and then came the Ono Moment for Lawrence. He didn't know where the diamond was. We'll find out where the diamond went after the break now back to the story in eighteen fifty nine John Lawrence tasked with protecting the Kohinoor. Diamond had forgotten it in his coat pocket several weeks earlier and now the queen of England herself was ordering it to be delivered to her as soon as possible pretending he knew exactly where it was lawrence quickly ran to find his servant and asked if he had found anything in his coat pocket weeks earlier the servant replied yes. I've found it and put it in one of your boxes. The Servant brought the box to him and Lawrence opened it to find the diamond safe and sound. Well can you imagine the Relief Lawrence must have felt what a close call? Indeed it was. It could have easily been stolen or lost. And that would have been a hefty price to pay now that the diamond was located. It was on. Its Way to England but I it had to survive the streets of Bombay India and some of its rougher areas it passed through unscathed and once it reached London it was put an iron box and deposited in the government treasury on July third eighteen. Fifty the deputy chairman hand delivered to Buckingham Palace for the Queen. But as it crossed into Britain's epicenter it brought with it the whispers of suspicion. The legend of this diamond that it carried a bad luck curse became a rumor that swept the nation in many were wary of its potential power this curse is reminiscent of the curse that came with the great mogul diamond the similarities between that and the Kohinoor are stacking up and this curse only made the Kohinoor more alluring in England. It debuted in the great exhibition in the Crystal Palace in Hyde Park people came in droves to view it. It was the toast of the town but then people started to talk and criticize the diamond. The main note was that it didn't shine as brilliantly as everyone had hoped and there was one important man who agreed with the sentiment. Prince Albert Queen. Victoria's husband so he ordered it. Be Re cut and polished. Prince Albert hired a Dutchman vermonter reputable diamond cutter who travelled to London to do the work. This process took thirty eight days. The GEM now weighed one hundred five carrots but the re cutting allowed. It's face to reflect more light so it appeared to be brighter and more brilliant clean. Victoria began wearing it as broach. There's a photo of her taken in eighteen. Eighty seven in which is in diamonds but the Kohinoor stands out as the largest and most notable. The stone wouldn't stay in. That broke forever though. It was eventually placed in the center of a Royal Crown and Queen. Alexandra Victoria's daughter-in-law was the first to wear it. Then in nineteen thirty seven the Kohinoor was reset into a new crown and the Queen. Mother began wearing it. The Queen Mother refers to Elizabeth Angela Marguerite Bowes Lyon the wife of King George the sixth and the mother of Queen Elizabeth the second and Princess Margaret. She even wore it at her own funeral in two thousand two. That was the last time the Kohinoor made a public appearance. The diamond remains in the crown and now resides in the jewel house in the Tower of London. There's been much controversy surrounding the true of this diamond Indian. Government officials have repeatedly demanded it be returned citing that it was forcibly taken during England's colonisation of India. According to an article from the Telegraph posted in two thousand sixteen the Ministry of Culture said quote the government of India further reiterates. Its resolve to make all possible efforts to bring back the Kohinoor diamond in an amicable manner and quote and the controversy continues to this day but the history of the Kohinoor prior to being in British hands is muddy. And it's hard to verify who exactly owned it or where exactly it came from other than a mine in Gull Kanda the same area. The great mogul diamond came from. Could this mean that the Kohinoor was indeed the great mogul diamond at one point? And perhaps it was only its name. That changed a meteorologist by the name of James Tennant thinks so he believes that the Kohinoor displays similarities to the great mogul described by expert jeweler. Jean Baptiste Tavernier. During his study of IT tenant rights quote. The KOHINOOR had a flaw near the summit. Which being on a line of cleavage parallel to the upper surface may very possibly have been produced when the upper portion was removed and quote. If you'll recall much of the great mogul was removed in the mid sixteen hundreds when Shaw Johann had cut however the Coen ores wait never matched up with the great mogul. According to record the last known weight of the Great Mogul was two hundred. Eighty three carrots but when the Cohen nor made it to England it was only one hundred eighty seven carrots. Some historians believe that. This is because jean-baptiste have rene may have recorded an inaccurate weighed when he wrote about the great mogul in his report. Interesting putting the Kohinoor aside for a moment there's another name another identity that the great mogul could have assumed it's time to hear the story of the Orlov diamond which ended up in the hands of Russian. Empress Catherine the great in seventeen sixty eight. This story is steeped much more in mystery legend and criminal intrigue and it begins in the temple of wrong in southern India. It's unclear how this legend originated but it's closely tied with the Orlov inside a temple. Dating back to the mid seventeenth century stands a statue of the Deity. Lord Ranga Nafa. His eyes were composed of two stunning diamonds. In the mid eighteenth century several countries were competing for territory in India in what is known as the Karnad wars during this time. A French soldier abandoned his post and deserted his unit going under the radar. He found a job near the town of three wrong as he worked. He listened to the locals. Speak of the temple and the idol. -taining the precious jewels. This Frenchman's desire was sparked any knew he had to steal the diamonds. But this would be a most impossible mission. Why because only Hindus were allowed in the temple and the statue remained in a sacred space several enclosures deep so the Frenchman converted to Hinduism and gain the trust of several priests. Who worked in the temple? Eventually he gained access inside and as he continued to prove his devotion he was given the task of Guardian to the Central Shrine. Not long after he began serving. They're a storm struck the land and the Frenchman found himself alone inside the temple. He saw his window of opportunity. He approached the statue stared up at the gleaming. Diamond is and began to pry one from. It's socket until it came free after this. He must have gotten scared because instead of prying out the other diamond. The Frenchman fled. He climbed the temple. Walls managed to swim across a river and navigated the nearby jungles until he reached the city of Madras there. He quickly sold the diamond to a British Sea. Captain for much less than it was worth probably so he could get out of the area quickly with some money in his pocket and maybe he was afraid of possible curse. It was rumored to carry after that. The diamond was sold several times by different merchants until it was purchased by a man named Shaw Friis. He was an Armenian diamond dealer. Living in Amsterdam the year was seventeen. Sixty eight twenty one years after the great mogul disappeared following the deer. Shah's assassination count Gregory Gregoria. Vich Orlov bought the diamond from SCHAAF. Ross in Amsterdam like the Frenchman or love to was on a mission but instead of stealing a jewel he was looking to steal back a heart. The heart of Catherine the great born in Prussia in seventeen twenty nine and originally called Sophie Catherine was the daughter of a German prince who didn't have much money to his name but what he lacked in funds he hadn't connections and Catherine was married off to Peter the third of the Romanov dynasty in Seventeen forty-five hardly match made in heaven. The two couldn't stand each other. Peter inherited the throne in seventeen sixty two but he was strongly disliked by his people including his wife who decided to take a lover Count Orlov. They began an affair and with the help of a secret group of conspirators planned the assassination of her husband. Peter once the assassination was carried out in seventeen sixty two catherine became empress. The throne was hers. It was a new horizon involving new responsibilities and new desires or loft became a thing of the past for her. She had her eyes set on new suitors. Orlov was crushed. He was determined to win Catherine back. And that's what led him to the jeweler named shoppers. Who showed him? The stunning rose cut diamond. He bought it immediately and had it sent to Catherine while she accepted the diamond with much delight. She didn't rekindle her romance with. Olaf but she did shower him with lavish gifts as she did all her lovers. That was the end of their story. But not the end of the diamonds it was placed in the imperial sceptre. A metal rod wielded by the person in power the diamond remains in the sceptre which is displayed in the diamond. Find in the Kremlin Museum in Russia. Now there are a number of reasons why some historians have claimed this diamond. Could be the great mogul I is the striking similarity between the ARL off and the drawing done by Bob. Tease Tavernier back in sixteen sixty five. Both diamonds have the same half egg shape. Both arose cut stones with similar facets and their collaring both diamonds are described as white with a hint of the slightest blue. But there's a specific detail that seems to really intrigued. Historians Tavernier wrote about it saying there was a slight crack and flaw at the bottom of the great mogul. They're also happens to be a slight indentation at the base of the Orlov. That could be this very flaw. The weight of the Orlov is about one hundred and ninety carrots slightly more than the Kohinoor was when it first came to England however neither diamond matches the supposed weight of the great mogul various jewel experts and historians have debated whether the great mogul might have taken on a new identity following the chaos of war yet. There's another theory that has been tossed around that. The Great Mogul Wisconsin to several smaller pieces and all those pieces went their separate ways. While this is possible it seems as though whoever came into possession of the great mogul would want to preserve its grandiosity to maintain its value. Which leaves us with the likely scenario that the great mogul adopted a new name and is hiding in plain sight. The question is which name did it take? I think it makes the most sense that the great mogul became the Kohinoor. Nadir's Shaw who acquired the great mogul after defeating Muhammad Shah called it the co in nor because it reminded him of a mountain of light also. When drawings were done of the Kohinoor in England it had a similar diameter. To the great mogul when drawn by Jean Baptiste. Tavernier some good points. But I have to say. I think it's a stronger possibility that it became the Orlov. I say this because of the color the Kohinoor is simply a white diamond noticeable bluish tinge the Orlov has that blue color attributed to the great mogul. The diamonds also share the unusual rose cut and the Orlov diamond closely resembles Tavernier's drawing. Well I guess we have to acknowledge that. There's no definitive answer. But I will say this. If you'll recall the great mogul dynasty supposedly carried with it occurs that its owner would face terrible misfortune if the owner was a man but any female owner would be immune to the. Kerr's and actually prosper. If we look back at the history of the Kohinoor especially the female leaders wore it we see a long line of British women surviving and Thriving Queen Victoria Queen. Alexandra Queen Mary the Queen Mother and even though she doesn't wear it the diamonds current owner Queen Elizabeth. The second is the longest reigning monarch since Queen Victoria. So if you believe the two diamonds are one and the same. You're admitting that you buy into the legend of its curse. I guess I am Yes. Well whatever the true identity of the great mogul is. Now we know the great mogul in all its brilliance. Despite its so called imperfections sparked greed it fed into human hubris. It was one of the most coveted rewards in the spoils of war. 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The Peacock Throne
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The Taj Mahal widely considered one of the most magnificent buildings ever constructed a member of the new seven wonders of the world commissioned in sixteen thirty two, but not completed until sixteen fifty. Three icon ick Mughal emperor Shah Jehan dedicated the Taj Mahal to his beloved wife, Munoz Mahal who died giving birth to their fourteenth child over twenty thousand workers, labored alongside one thousand elephants to erect the great Rogo mausoleum. It's constructed from white marble and its interior is inlaid with gemstones such as lapis Lasley and Cornelia. N- some say it's valued today at over one billion dollars to others. The view of the grand Taj Mahal is priceless, but many people don't know that shy Jehan. Mission. Another treasure won twice as expensive and twice as grand Jehan oversaw the construction of the costliest single piece of treasure built in the past millennium the peacock throne. It was originally housed in the Red Fort a Royal fortress palace in Delhi. According to author, k r n Swamy the peacock throne was valued at eight hundred four million dollars or four point. Five billion rupees in nineteen ninety nine rod out of over twenty five hundred pounds of gold and over five hundred pounds of precious stones. It easily caused twice as much as the Taj Mahal to build yet for almost three hundred years. No one has seen the original peacock throne since seventeen thirty nine. The costliest single piece of treasure crafted in the last millennium has been gone. Hi, I'm Molly and I'm Richard, welcome to gone the show where we searched for everything missing every other Monday. We examined mysterious disappearances and the theories they spawned from the amber room to Michael Rockefeller Picasso paintings to the trust in language, the Roanoke colony to the lost Russian cosmonauts. If it's gone, we're looking for it. You can find previous episodes as well as par. Cast other podcasts on your favorite podcast directory. Some of you have been asking how you can support gone. If you enjoy the show. The best way to support us is to leave a five star review online. This episode were looking into the extravagant peacock throne, the seed of the Mughal empire, a Muslim dynasty, which ruled most of northern India from fifteen twenty six to the mid nineteenth century somehow the. Peacock throne has been missing since seventeen thirty nine. The peacock throne was last seen in its entirety during the Persian sacking of Delhi led by the Iranian conqueror Nadu Shah as a token of war Nadu Shah supposedly took the throne back to his palace. In Iran, there are three main theories as to wear the peacock throne may have ended up the first and simplest theory is that the peacock throne was taken as a war prize afternoon, dear Shah's failed campaign against the Afghans in Kurds in seventeen forty seven. The throne was then apparently broken down dismantled and distributed amongst the soldiers who then sold their shares for pennies on the dollar. The second theory is that the Afghans and Kurds didn't plunder the original peacock throne, but merely a recreation of the peacock throne created by nuttier Shah this theory posits that the original peacock throne remain. Back at new deer Shah's palace in Iran, during his failed campaign against the Afghans and Kurds in seventeen forty seven. This theory also suggests that afternoon, dear Shah's death. The original peacock throne was reclaimed by the Mughal empire and return to Delhi. The third theory suggests that the peacock throne was aboard the Grosvenor an eight hundred ton British ship that wrecked off the South African coast in seventeen eighty two and the peacock throne is to this day acting as a habitation for aquatic life somewhere, deep in the Indian Ocean. To begin our investigation, we must. I look at the Moghal empires, golden age, a period of great prosperity for the Muslim dynasty in northern India. The golden age lasted from sixteen twenty eight to sixteen fifty eight, which were the years of emperor Shah Jehan rain Shah Jehan which translates to king of the world was the third son of emperor Jehan gear. And the Rajput Princess mon- Mati John became a member of the influential Noor Jehan click and exclusive group of people centered around Noor Jehan John gears twentieth and final wife even before John gears, death in sixteen twenty seven, a war of succession was raging between his sons Jehan gears first son and Shah Jehan elder brother. Koos Roux was killed in sixteen twenty two uprising in Deccan some speculate that Sean Jehan had ordered his brother to be killed to increase. His own chances of sending to the throne Jehan gear. Second son Parvaiz was considered weak and was rumored to be addicted to alcohol. He died in sixteen twenty six. Some immediately suspecting the death was caused by poison. At the hand of Shah Jehan when John gear died the following year Shah Jehan and his younger brother Shari are where the only remaining heirs. Although Schaja Han was a member of Noor Jehan exclusive circle. She cited with Shahryar in the bid for succession. She feared that if the strong willed Shah Jehan were made emperor, she would lose a Royal influence. She believes Cherie are would be easier to manipulate but newer. John's brother us of Khan was jealous of his sisters power. He also happened to be Schaja Hans father-in-law unsurprisingly. He sided with Schaja Han. At this point, the battle for succession turned into a literal war. Shahryar raised an army and Asaf Khan and Shah Jehan met them near the Mughal city of Lahore Shah Jehan Khan, victorious defeating Shahryar forces, Sean Jehan, ordered Sherry are to be blinded, then executed along with any remaining contenders for the Mughal empire's thrown. He also ordered Noor Jehan to be confined in Lahore mansion where she remained until her death, two decades later in sixteen twenty eight with no other contenders for the throne in the war of succession officially over Shah Jehan officially proclaimed himself. The next Mughal emperor. Jehan had an unquenchable thirst for building in the early years of his thirty year reign. Jehan oversaw the construction of two great mosques. The moti Majid's or the Pearl mosque and the Jami Masjid or the great mosque. After he sifted is capital from off to Delhi in sixteen thirty nine Schaja Han ordered the construction of a huge fortress palace known as the Red Fort which took nine years to complete his Royal court was full of splendor and great pomp, his collection of jewels, arguably the most magnificent in the world. And of course, by sixteen fifty three, he had the splendid Taj Mahal erected in Agra for the favorite of his three queens. But Schaja Han wasn't satisfied with these earthly riches and wonders. He wanted to be the shadow of God or the arbiter of God's will on earth and in order to speak for God, he need to craft a throne. Similar to the throne of Solomon, which appears in the Hebrew bible and is commonly represented in Islam, art. This holy throne is seen as belonging to God himself. Shortly after he became emperor, Shahjahan commissioned and encrusted gold throne. The throne was to be arrested upon a pedestal, so that he would be able to sit above his onlookers closer to God. The throne was constructed under the supervision of Beppu Alcon, the superintendent of the goldsmiths department. It was built at a cost of one crore of rupees by today's estimates. Aside from the priceless pieces of the peacock throne, the construction labor alone would have cost one hundred forty, five thousand dollars the peacock throne or the tucked Taus with truly a celebration of Schaja Hans extravagant rule. This was no ordinary seat of power. The throne was a gilded platform measuring four feet. Wide and six feet long ascended by silver steps upon its four massive golden legs, which were set with jewels were four bars that supported the base of the throne rising from the bars were twelve columns, which sustained a silk canopy encrusted with precious stones. There were three large cushions placed on the golden throne. The middle cushion was set with the Timour ruby a precious stone, which was gifted to Shah Jehan by his father inscribed on the ruby where the names of Schaja Hans father, John gear, and his grandfather Akbar Shah Jehan followed suit inscribing his name as well. The peacock throne was a no shortage of notable gemstones including the famed one hundred sixty eight carat Baba's diamond later known as the Kohinoor diamond which translates to mountain of light. The throne was backed by representations of two gilded and enamelled peacocks their tails. Open revealing diamonds, emeralds rubies, and other precious stones that made up the vibrant multicolored. Peacock feathers as well as other embellishments. Thus it was named the peacock throne. It took a total of seven years to complete the spectacular peacock throne upon its completion in sixteen thirty five. The peacock throne was housed in the hall of private audiences in the Red Fort of Delhi Shah Jehan thrown was a stunning reminder of the Mughal empire's golden age. The extravagance didn't go unnoticed. Embedded on the throne is at twenty couplet poem by Mugabe poet. Laureate could see praising Jehan in emerald letters. Another poem written by Haji. Mohammad, John was set into the canopy of the throne in green and nam lettering. Unfortunately there are few accounts from anyone who had an opportunity to personally visit the fabled peacock throne. The most notable firsthand account with from a French merchant Jean Batiste tub in year who travelled between Persia and India, six times between sixteen thirty and sixteen sixty eight. It was on his sixth voyage which began in sixteen sixty three and ended in sixteen sixty eight that Tavernier was able to personally inspect the peacock throne tavern yet confirms that the throne was almost the size of a bed easily six by four feet in dimension. He estimated the throne was set with approximately one hundred eight large rubies and one hundred sixteen emeralds. Taverny also claims that suspended from the throne were a sword, amaze as shield and bow, quiver and arrows. These were also set with precious stones as were the silver steps ascending the throne. Interestingly, instead of seeing to peacocks represented in the thrones backing Taverny claims that there was only one in his account, the golden peacocks raised tail was set with blue sapphires in front of the Peacock's breast was a large ruby from which hung a pear shape yellowish Pearl. The p. Kok was flanked by two flower bouquets also made from gold and precious stones. In sixteen fifty eight then sixty six years old Sean Jehan fell ill. His son DARA was chosen to rule in his stead. It was rumored that Sean Jehan remove two panels of diamonds from the peacock throne. Perhaps afraid is sons would attempt to steal his wealth in the succession war that was sure to follow. And a succession warsh surely did follow when Shah Jehan other sons Shujaiya Murad and orange have learned Darras ascent to the throne. They declared independence crowning themselves, kings of their own respective territories. They all gathered their own armies and marched on Audra the capital to battle for dominance. Orange and Murad came to agreement, they would combine forces. And if they were victorious, they would partition the empire in rule together with their combined forces orange Zab, and Murad defeated their brother shoe joh-. In sixteen fifty nine sending Hsu fleeing to Oricon present day Burma where he was executed by the local rulers. Next orange ebben Murad combined forces ward with Darras army, although Darras forces outnumbered orange ebben Murad army sixty thousand to forty thousand DARA new little of the art of war and was ultimately defeated in sixteen fifty. Nine orange Zab had his brother DARA executed. His head sent to shot Jehan even though Schaja Han had fully recovered from his illness, orange ebb, had him declared incompetent to rule and confined to the Red Fort inaugura orange zip then declared himself. The new goal emperor in sixteen fifty nine. He broke his promise of ruling together with Murad instead having his last remaining brother arrested and executed. John is rumored to have returned the panels of diamonds to orange tabby a few years. After removing them. But even so schon, John stayed confined until his death in sixteen sixty six. There may be no connection between the rumor of the removed. Panels are exurbs strict orders, but it's possible that orange zips confinement of his father was a punishment for hoarding pieces of the empire's beloved thrown. I treasure like the peacock throne would seem to drive any family quarrel to the extreme. Now that we understand what the peacock throne was and what made it. So Splendors we now need to track the thrown up until it was last seen to do this. We must turn our focus to a man who would become known as the Napoleon of Persia. The second Alexander a man who strive to be Gingas Kahn that man is nuttier Shaw. Nadu Shah was born in Iran in sixteen eighty eight. Well, after the peacock thrones completion as an Iranian ruler and conqueror ruling from seventeen thirty six to seventeen forty seven. He was able to establish a Persian empire that stretched from the Indus river to the Caucasus mountains, which included all of Iran and parts of Afghanstan as your by John and modern day Pakistan Nadu Shah was brilliantly victorious as a soldier in general, but had little success at statesmanship or had been. Distraction. Toward the end of his reign, Iran's forces became utterly exhausted, tens of thousands perished in ceaseless military campaigns and purchase economy was ruined by the incessant exactions of nuttier Shah's tax collectors. It seemed battle was the only thing he cared about once when the deer Shaw was informed that there was no warfare in the paradise he remarked quote, how then can there be any delights there and quote, it was this thirst for glory that set the deer Shah's sights on conquering India and claiming the fabled peacock throne as his own. What led a deer Shah to invade India in seventeen thirty, nine to enter the gates of Delhi to depose orange great grandson Muhammed Shah the last Mughal emperor to supposedly ever sit on the peacock throne. It begins and ends with something as simple as a broken promise. Will investigate the last sightings of the peacock throne. After this quick break. I had a high school reunion recently traveled back east and finally got to use my away suitcase. I love my way suitcase. What do you like about yours? I liked it away, comes in a variety of colors and four different sizes, and that the carry on size are compliant with all major US airlines. 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The peacock throne has been missing since seventeen thirty nine when the Mughal empire was invaded by the Persian empire led by Nadu Shah it wasn't the first time. The two empires were in conflict from sixteen twenty two to sixteen twenty three the Mughal and Persian empires fought over the fortress city of Kandahar in Afghanistan. The Persians proved Victoria's the two empires board again from sixteen forty nine to sixteen fifty three once again over the city of Kandahar the Persians one again by seventeen thirty six Nadir's Shah a brilliant soldier in general was now the ruler of the Persian empire. He was leading his Persian forces in an intense war camp. Pain against Afghan forces. Once again, the conflict was being waged over Kandahar during this time, the Mughal empire was being led by Mohammad Shah great, great grandson of former emperor Shah Jehan who built the glorious peacock throne over the past three decades. The Mughal empire had been considerably weakened the Mughal military had been decimated by routine wars of succession between generations of the Royal family parts of the Mughal empire had been captured by invading forces of the Maratha empire and neighboring Indian empire. Also, Mughal nobles were able to assert independence founding smaller states within the empire. The new Mughal emperor Muhammad Shah was enabled to stop the slow disintegration of his empire in seventeen thirty eight nerdier Shah sent to embassador to Delhi to request that Mohammed Shah prevent any. Afghans from taking refuge in Mughal territories. This seems like a strange requests to an empire that was not one of nuttier Shah's allies. It's possible Nadu Shah was trying to start an alliance between the two empires. It's also possible that he was setting Muhammed Shah up looking for an excuse to start a war with the wealthy, but weakened McGowan empire regardless of deer Shah's intentions, Muhammad Shah agreed to the request to not grant Afghans refuge in any Mughal territories. But he didn't keep his promise when dear Shah learned of Muhammad Shah's actions. He decided to send a third ambassador Muhamed Khan, but much to new shows chagrin he never received a reply, nor did con- ever return at Delhi Muhammad Shah and his Royal ministers cap con from returning mulling, their options while waiting on the outcome of new Shah siege against the Afghans. Kandahar their response to a dear Sean depended largely on whether his siege succeeded or failed nuttier Shah an expert in Warren conquest did not fail. He eventually conquered the Afghans at Kandahar in a decisive victory annoyed by Mohammad Shah's, lack of reply and likely yearning for his next conquest. Nadeesha March towards the Mughal cities of Ghazni and Kabul slaughtering any Afghans. He saw that had been given refuge in the Mughal territories by seventeen thirty. Nine Nadu Shah had captured the Mughal cities of Ghazni and Kabul facing virtually no resistance due to the Mogole empires weakened state. He experienced the same lack of position as he crossed the Indus river at talk eventually occupying the Moghal city of Lahore. Back at Delhi. There were hurried preparations being made to defend the great city. But Muhammad, Sean is faction. Ridden noble ministers could not agree on a strategy ultimately in seventeen thirty. Nine Muhammed shy and his Mughal forces met Nadeem Shaw's host on the battlefield at karnal. Nadir's Shaw ended the day victorious defeating them galls in what is now known as the battle of Colonel. Deer shot took Muhammad shop prisoner. After the battle. It is rumored that the Mughal emperor was treated with the utmost respect, civility and equality while being held captive Nadu Shaw and his Persian forces marched south to Delhi his Royal prisoner in tow behind closed doors in the Red Fort Delhi near shop promised to reinstate Muhammed Shah as the Mughal emperor and inex- change for his reinstatement as the Mughal emperor Muhammad Shah bestowed upon the deer Shaw, many of the priceless treasures held inside the palace, including. The peacock throne. There's an interesting rumor regarding one of the prized pieces of the peacock throne. The one hundred eighty six carat bobbers diamond. The rumor goes that sometime during these closed door negotiations Nadu Shah was tipped off that Mohammed Shah was being deceptive. He believed that Mohammed Shah was hiding bobbers diamond in his turban to weed out any deceit. Dear Shah invited Muhammed Shah to a customary turban exchange ceremony after the exchange dear Shah searched, Muhammad, Shah's turban, finding something concealed in the layers. None other than bubbles. Diamond Nadir's Shaw couldn't believe his eyes. He exclaimed Kohinoor which translates to mountain of light. It's here according to the rumor that bobbers diamond received its new namesake, the Kohinoor diamond. This effort to deceive a deer Shah is reminiscent of Schaja. Hons rumored withholding of two diamond panels from his son are exam. The similarities in these two actions shows how possessive the Moghal Royal family was of its fabled peacock throne. Dear Shaw and Mohammad Shah exchange titles and treasures inside the Red Fort outside. A rumor was causing discord between the citizens of Delhi and the Persian forces. The rumor was that Nadeem Shah was dead. This caused a riot among loyal resistance warriors of Delhi who believed the Persian forces weakened without their leader. They attacked the Persian forces, killing thousands upon hearing about the rumor and the riot dear Shah ordered a massacre of the city. Nearly one hundred thousand citizens of Delhi were slaughtered and parts of the city were set on fire. Nadu shy and his Persian forces were camped at Delhi in seventeen thirty nine for a total of fifty nine days upon his departure, dear Shah officially reinstated Mohammad Shah as Mughal emperor personally, placing the crown on his head despite the Moghal rioting and the killing of thousands of Persians Nadeesha of filled his promise to Muhammed Shah perhaps because an idea Shaw was satisfied. He'd gotten everything. He wanted a victorious campaign unimaginable amounts of treasure and thrown fit for God. Muhammed Shah regained his crown, but he was the last Mughal emperor to ever sit upon the original peacock throne in seventeen thirty nine dear Shaw and his Persian forces left Delhi and marched back to Persia with plunder of Mughal treasure, including the peacock throne, a few years later sky. Punish travel writer. James Bailey Frazier estimated that nuttier shos hall of Mughal treasure amounted to seven hundred million rupees which acquaints to over ten million dollars today. And he certainly wanted his loot to be on full display according to a duel Kareem who accompanied net dear Shah on his journey back to Persia, quote the outside of new dear Shah's tent was covered with fine. Scarlet broadcloth upon which representations of all the birds and beasts in the creation with trees and flowers. The whole made of pearls diamonds. Rubies emeralds amethyst, and other precious stones on both sides of the peacock throne was a screen upon which were the figures of two angels in precious stones and quote. Before an dear Shaw returned to Persia. It's rumored that he had a facsimile of the peacock throne constructed to divert hopeful thieves from pilfering the real thrown. Here's where the original peacock thrones location and authenticity comes into question. There's no way to ensure the throne Kareem saw was the original instead of the recreation. But it seems likely that a man like Nydia Shah would have had his greatest war prize on display for all to see assuming Kareem saw the real thrown as part of the tent display in seventeen thirty nine. He may have been the last recorded eyewitness to see the original peacock throne, because soon after new deer Shaw returned to Persia, the precious thrown vanished. After this break, we'll continue our search for the peacock throne. And now back to the story. The famed peacock throne commissioned by Mughal emperor Shah Jehan was taken from Delhi in seventeen thirty nine by Persian conqueror. Nuttier Shah it was last seen on the March back from Delhi as part of Madeira Shah's elaborate tent display of his newly acquired treasures. Nadu shy is rumored to have carried both the original peacock throne and affects simile or recreation back with him to his palace in Persia. And if our first theory is to be believed, that's where it stayed for the better part of the next decade. This theory posits that the peacock throne was taken from the Persians as a war prize during the deer Shah's failed campaign against the Afghans and Kurds in seventeen forty seven ever. The showman Nadir's Shah must have brought the peacock throne with him to the military camp as show of force. But after the Persians lost, the throne was dismantled and his. Attributed amongst the Afghan incurred soldiers who not knowing the value of the precious stones, supposedly sold their pieces for pennies on the dollar Scottish travel writer. James Bailey Frazier wrote that according to quote an old cord speaking to me in eighteen twenty two money and jewels were unknown among us until the days of Nydia. When that king was murdered and his camp plundered. The peacock throne fell into our hands and quote, the old Kurd must have been referring to Nadir's Shah's seventeen forty-seven campaign to quell a Kurdish uprising in chorus on toward the end of his eleven year rule Nadir's Shah became increasingly cruel to his own people extorting more and more taxes to pay for his military campaigns. He ruthlessly crushed any revolts resulting from these tax exactions even building towers of his victims skulls it was this increasing cruelty that led to fifteen Persian conspiracy. Tres meeting outside a deer Shah's tent during the chorus on campaign in seventeen forty, seven. According to one of nuttier Shah's concubines, the conspirators quote, entered the Royal tent pushing and smashing their way through any obstacles. No, as they made on entering woke Nydia Shah up who goes there. He shouted out in a roar, where's my sword? The assassins were struck with fear. By these words and quote, the assassins began to flee, but quote, ran straight into the two chiefs of the murder conspiracy who allayed their fears and made them go into the Tanta gin and quote Nadu Shah was able to slay two of his assassins, but he was outnumbered the great conqueror was finally killed by his own countrymen. With Nadu Shah no longer leading the Persian forces. Their military camp fell into chaos, succumbing to looting and rioting from the Kurdish forces Frazier's old Kurds states that the peacock throne present at the military camp was quote torn in pieces and divided on the spot. Although our chiefs themselves little new, their value, many of us through away the pearls is useless. And our soldiers ignorant of the value of gold offered their yellow money in exchange for a lesser quantity of silver and copper and quote. The question is, was this a giant missed opportunity for the soldiers or Nydia Shah's last left? Didn't endear shop. Bring the original Mugabe peacock throne on his campaign against the Kurds or did he bring its recreation keeping the original safe at his palace in Persia researchers claim it's unlikely that Nadir's Shaw would have hauled the original peacock throne with him on a war campaign. Remember the peacock throne was wrought out of over three thousand pounds of gold and precious stones alone. It would have been a massive undertaking to bring the throne with him. It's more likely that the throne looted at the military camp was a lighter, less valuable replica. But even so that doesn't mean the original peacock throne was safe. It's certainly possible the Kurds also ransacked Nadir's Shah's palace at a later date where they would have found the original peacock throne, they likely would have dismantled and distributed like they did with the throne from the military camp, leaving the original peacock throne, and it's less valuable, replica both lost to mankind. Our second theory concerns. The writings of av Williams, Jackson and American specialist of Indo European languages in his nineteen eleven book. Jackson discusses the concerns of Lord George Curzon viceroy of India over the authenticity of thrown found at the Shah's palace in Toronto. In the early nineteenth century, according to Jackson quote, Lord Curzon believes that the real peacock throne or one of the two in a deer Shah's possession disappeared from the scene after the battle in seventeen forty, seven and quote. But Jackson goes on to posit that the other thrown, whether the fact simile or the original was discovered in a broken down condition by Mohammad Shah at deer Shah's palace after his assassination, eager to regain his stolen treasure Muhammed Shah must've extracted the throne by use of brutal torture of deer Shah. Ause blind grandson after reclaiming the peacock throne, whether original or replica from Nydia Shah's palace, Jackson writes that Mohammed Shaw then had the recovered portions fashioned into a new thrown of modern shape and style. He goes on to say that this new throne now resides at the Shah's palace in Tehran. It is here supposedly that the sole surviving remnants of Shah Jehan original peacock throne are found, but Lord Curzon insisted that the thrown at the Shah's palace contain no pieces of the original peacock throne and was built in the early nineteenth century long after Mohammed Shah died in seventeen forty eight. One of his main points of argument was that the throne in Tehran had seven legs while the original peacock throne only had four could Mohammed shy have changed the number of legs when he revamped the thrones style before his death. This seems unlikely Muhammed Shah supposedly. Reclaimed the pieces of the peacock throne from nuttier Shah's grandson sometime between the deer Shah's death in seventeen forty, seven and his own death in seventeen forty eight. Remember the original peacock throne, seven years to construct. It's unlikely that Muhammad Shah would have had time to completely redesign the throne structure before his own death. Jackson still skeptical, visited the Shah's palace to see the throne for himself. And there he noticed the detail that put the nail in the coffin for his theory. The inscription Jackson was a language specialist, and he decided the inscriptions on the Tehran thrown were not consistent with Moghal inscriptions from Mohammad Shah's time. This confirmed Jackson, that Lord Curzon suspicions were correct. The throne in Toronto was indeed in nineteenth century recreation on related to Muhammad Shah or the original peacock throne. But if the peacock throne wasn't reclaimed by the Mughal empire, where could it be? It's beginning to seem more and more likely that the original peacock throne really was looted and distributed between Kurdish soldiers in seventeen forty, seven unless the original peacock throne now resides on the ocean floor somewhere off the coast of South Africa. As our third theory posits the theory stems from a rumor that suggests the original peacock throne was somehow aboard the eight hundred ton British ship the Grosvenor, which was travelling from Madras to England when it's shipwrecked off the South African coast in seventeen eighty two, the Grosvenor was owned by the East India company on its fourth and final voyage. It said to have crashed into the African continent in the early hours of misty morning to stimulate summer growth. The farmers near the shore were burning their winner grasslands. Through the spray in stormy weather, these fires appeared to the crew of the Grosvenor as lights in the air. The captain dismissed the light says something similar to Northern Lights, believing them to be only a natural phenomena in the sky. He continued course toward the mysterious lights. Only moments later plowing into the rugged, rocky coastline of Africa. What's interesting is that despite multiple efforts to recover the loss loot in the Grosvenor shipwreck in the eighteen eighties, there was no mention of the peacock throne being aboard, the Grosvenor until rumor began circling in nineteen hundred. The rumor of which the origin is still unknown. Stated the original peacock throne was aboard along with many other priceless. Treasures may lose to say this sparked more heated expeditions in search of the uncovered riches the first of which began in nineteen o five. But this search ended quickly after a diver drowned and the expedition was abandoned in nineteen twenty one, the Grosvenor bullion company or syndicate was formed. A member of the company was none other than Sherlock Holmes. Creator author, Sir Arthur Conan, Doyle Doyle would stir the rumors of the Grosvenor shipwreck by mentioning it in a couple of his stories. The Grosvenor billion company propose. That a tunnel dug under the seabed. So as to reach the ships strongroom which by then was rumored to hold unspeakable amounts of treasure. The company's prospectus list included seven hundred twenty gold bars as well as nineteen boxes of precious stones. It seemed like pure fantasy, but the company was able to raise the money for the expedition. Unfortunately the company ran out of money before finishing the tunnel more unsuccessful expeditions in search of the Grosvenor shipwreck continued after the Grosvenor bullion companies nineteen twenty one attempt, but by nineteen thirty nine World War Two ceased all expeditions. Perhaps the discovery was made in two thousand Jonathan shaft. Minna former university of Cape Town, archaeologist lit a group of Hungarian divers as they supposedly found the ill-fated final site of the Grosvenor shaft. Men claimed his team had quote, found objects, which give us almost one hundred percent proof. And we have convinced the national monuments council that what we have found is indeed the Grosvenor end quote. The discovery received further confirmation when the former Natal parks, board chairman, Pat Goss, who is also able to dive at the claimed site stated quote, I have been one of the greatest skeptics about this wreck for nearly fifty years. But what I saw has left me quite breathless and quote, Goss claimed shaft. Men and the Hungarian team proved the authenticity of the claims by showing him several gold and silver coins, as well as other unnamed artifacts. But there was no sign nor mention of the peacock throne by Hungarian team according to GAAS, they did not believe the throne had ever been on the Grosvenor was the original peacock throne ever on board the Grosvenor to begin with writer, Tony, Kearney reported in two thousand that it was only quote a legend and extravagant falsehood invented to tantalize fortune seekers to invest in the Grosvenor billions. Syndicate and quote Percival. Our occur be who produced the most authoritative work on the Grosvenor was skeptical about the presence of the throne in his nineteen sixty book. He states quote undoubtedly the Grosvenor was a richly Laden vessel, but the visions of scores of chests of diamonds, rubies emeralds and the like are, but idle dreams and quote, nobody knows where the rumor came from that. The peacock throne was aboard the Grosvenor according to curb Ian Carney, it's certainly seemed more fiction than fact. This seems to sink this theory. Was the original peacock throne taken in bloody warfare dismantled and distributed amongst the Afghan incurred forces couldn't endear shy, have left the original thrown back at his palace could Mohammed Shaw have recovered it before the Kurds had the chance to ransack it or could the peacock throne of been aboard, the Grosvenor lost to mankind amidst the ocean currents. It doesn't seem likely that the original peacock throne was ever aboard. The Grosvenor rumors didn't start to spread until over one hundred years after the ship's untimely end. The thrones absence in the two thousand discovery of the supposed rag seems to this theory for good dayquil e unlikely Mamad Shah reclaimed the peacock throne from Persia before the Kurds ransacked the deer Shah's palace. The rumored remnants of the peacock throne in Tehran appeared to be nothing more than a nineteenth century recreation. This is the theory we find most likely. As a show of force a reminder of Nadeem Shah's utter devastation of the Mughal empire. He brought the original peacock throne with him to fend off the uprising in chorus on, but in a dear shot never expected to be betrayed by his own men. He was assassinated by a conspiracy of murderers and the original peacock throne in all its fabled glory was dismantled and divided up between the soldiers. The pieces were sold in scattered around the corners of the world and may never be seen again. Some antiquated experts believe the legs of the eighteen thirty six hours are thrown also called the peacock throne may have come from the original, the Metropolitan Museum of art in New York City also claimed to have possibly discovered a marble leg from the original thrown a few years later, the Victoria and Albert museum in London claimed the same. However, neither of these claims have a leg to stand on. They remain unconfirmed. There are also claims that a majority of the peacock thrones pearls now reside in the Tehran central Bank as part of the crown jewel collections. Speaking of crown jewels. We do know where the fabled Kohinoor diamond ended up afternoon. Dear Shah was assassinated. The diamond fell two different Afghan nobles. Eventually being acquired by the British East India company, the same company that owned the Grosvenor, the British government claimed the die. Diamond from the East India company and transported to England on the h. m. s. Madeira it now resides in the British crown jewels despite India, wishing it to be returned perhaps Nadeem shod did get the last laugh if he can't have the peacock throne, at least no one else ever can. Thanks for tuning in to gone. If you wanna find more episodes or any of par, casts other podcasts, you can find us on apple podcasts, Stitcher, Google play, cast box tune in or your favorite podcast directory. Many people ask how to help the show. If you enjoy the show, the best way to do that is to leave a five star review. You can also tell us your theories on Facebook and Instagram at par, cast on Twitter at par, cast network or at par, cast dot com. We'll be back in two weeks with another episode just because it's gone. Doesn't mean it can't be found. Gone was created by max Cutler is a production of Cutler media and is part of the park cast network. It is produced by Maxon Ron Cutler sound design by dick Schroeder with production assistance by Paul. 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Steve answered the door before Patricia could want him not to last week. She'd worried someone might be following her. You never knew it was a strange girl at the door. She was agitated. She'd hit a car in the garage into the complex and wanted to borrow the phone, angry and disgusted. Patricia went to the door. The dump girl probably hit Patricia ze m. g. roadster she'd give her a piece of her. Two men burst into the house and the girl grabbed Patricia, be quiet and nobody will get hurt. The girl pointed an automatic pistol at Patricia 's face before Patricia could scream. Again, one of the men was straddling her on the floor, pressed against the linoleum. She could hear Steve crying, take anything you want anything you want. He said, Patricia tried to get free, but the man yelled at a keep her head down and gagged her intruders, blindfolded, Patricia, and dragged or to the door. Steve continued screaming in complete shock, Patricia worry. They were stabbing him. 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The Great Mogul Diamond
"The world is full of leaders. Religious military activists heads of state many people look to these leaders for guidance. Some people reject them, but a small percentage want to kill them assassinations looks through the lens of both the target and the assassin and asks did the assassinate she'd his or her underlying objective. And if so how did it change the world search for and subscribe to assassinations wherever you listen to podcasts. In seventeen thirty nine Persian emperor. Nuttier Shah, let an army of approximately twenty thousand men against Mohammad Shah the mogul emperor of India in a ruthless invasion that deer in his troops decimated. Muhammed's armies in what is known as the battle of karnal Muhammed, eventually surrendered handing over his empire in Delhi. This empire wasn't only land but included something so rare and tantalizing its true. Value was incalculable the great mogul diamond. However, this two hundred eighty carat gemstone came with the curse those who came into contact with a great diamond had gone bankrupt been exiled and had their entire empire. Overthrown now. Dear its new owner was not spared in seventeen forty seven assassins broke into the dears quarters and decapitated him. And just like that the great mogul diamond disappeared forever from the annals of history. Hi, I'm Molly. And I'm Richard welcome to gone the show where we search for everything missing. Every other Monday, we examined mysterious disappearances and the theories they spawned from the amber room to Michael Rockefeller, the Cosso paintings to the trust in language. The Roanoke colony to the lost Russian cosmonauts if it's gone, we're looking for it. You can find previous episodes as well. As park has other podcasts on your favorite podcast directory. Some of you have been asking how you can support gone if you enjoy the show the best way to support us is to leave a five star review. Wherever you listen today. We will be looking into the seventeen forty seven disappearance of the great mogul diamond which arose from the dirt of dried riverbed in India and became one of the world's most puzzling precious. Stones the great mogul diamond had a brief and troubling history. It was kept as a testament to its owners wealth and power. But it was never in the same hands for long, the brilliant diamond witness this exile of kings in the fall of empires, but in seventeen forty seven after the assassination of its final owner all records of the diamond virtually disappeared. How could such a grand treasure be so quickly lost to time? Our first theory claims that it ended up in the British crown jewels after England's colonisation of India. Our second theory assumes that the diamond is actually masquerading as another famous diamond the Orlov now residing in a Russian museum. But whether it's hiding in plain sight or the diamond remains in some other unknown location. The great mogul diamond remains a much sought after mystery to fully explore this story. We must go back to the diamonds origins at the center. Her of the earth. Most people believe that diamonds come from coal. But the truth is coal rarely plays. A part in the formation of diamonds coal is produced by ancient plant deposits on the earth surface. But most diamonds come from the earth's mantle nearly one hundred miles below the surface. And when diamonds emerged from those extreme depths. They don't come quietly. There spewed out through violent volcanic eruptions known as kimberlite eruptions. These are extremely rare. And it is believed that the last kimberlite eruption occurred more than twenty five million years ago. The great mogul diamond was most likely formed from one of these eruptions. It was discovered along the Krishna river in the Gulf Kanda mine in India. India was the birthplace of the diamond trade, which probably began around four hundred BC in fact, until seventeen twenty five when diamonds were first discovered in Brazil. India was the only source of these gems. These unique stones were quickly seen as valuable indicators of class status and traded along the silk road a network of trade routes, connecting the east with the west not to mention early civilizations actually believed the diamonds were gifts from the gods. And those who found received them. Would be blessed with wealth strength and good health. If that was the case, they must have believed the great mogul diamond would bring them immortality. Because it was so massive in sixteen fifty six when it made its first real appearance in written histories, the Islamic mogul empire was thriving in India Prusiene, emperor, Shah Jehan whose name means king of the world presided over the throne and his taste for extravagance reflected. This uh contagious title in sixteen thirty two. He commissioned the famed Taj Mahal in Agra a stunning muzzle. EM had built for his young wife after her death Shah Jehan also had the famous peacock throne adorned with gold and covered in rubies emerald and pearls built for himself. But he was about to get even fancier because in sixteen fifty six a wealthy general named emir gem LA came to Delhi and met with Schaja Han too. Establish good diplomatic relations Jemma worked for Dula king of Gaul Kanda India and was trying to broker an alliance between the two leaders, but he didn't come empty-handed among his gifts for the emperor was the great mogul diamond at the time. It was the largest diamond ever discovered in its rough original state. This stone weighed a whopping seven hundred eighty seven and a half carrots. That's equal to more than one hundred and fifty seven grams about as heavy as a billiards ball or half as heavy as a human heart. That's huge the average size for an engagement ring in the US in twenty seventeen was zero point nine carrots. So not even one carat and that size goes for about six thousand dollars, depending on design retailer and other factors to give vague sense of its value. One of the largest diamonds ever sold at auction. Was a one hundred and eighteen carat diamond a fraction of the size of the great mogul that went for thirty point six million dollars in twenty thirteen as for what it looked like it has been described as an egg cut in half the top end formed a cone shape. The opposite end a flat circle this shape was referred to as a rose cut because the shape somewhat resembles a Rosebud rose cuts are relatively rare. And this gave the great mogul diamond. And even more unique quality Shah Jehan was quite pleased with the gift, but ordered that the diamond be cut to make it fit for an emperor such as he the stone in its natural state would not do there were too many aesthetic flaws like lines and cracks which in jeweler speak are called inclusions. Ancient Indian text the round Paryski alluded to the importance of a flawless diamond, saying, quote wise, men should. Not use diamond with visible flaws as a gem and quote, so Jehan hired or tense. Yo boy GIO of Incheon lapidary or gemstone cutter to refine it borough began cutting the stone grinding away all the problematic flaws, but go figure the more he ground, the smaller and lighter the stone. God after Borgias work. The stone was a mere two hundred eighty three carats less than half the size of the original. This would weigh about two ounces as much as a stack of twelve Nichols. Not a billiards ball, but still quite the hefty jewel on. Fortunately, the new size and weight became a bit of a problem. The size of the stone was one of its primary. Appeals emperor Shah Jehan was furious so much so he wanted to execute boy GIO for his poor workmanship. But Jehan stopped short of that. Instead, he find bores yo ten thousand rupees. Basically all the money the diamond cutter had to his name Bormio, pay Jehan and laughed a very poor and shamefaced, man. It seemed that bore geo may have been the first man to fall prey to the curse of the great mogul several years later in sixteen fifty seven Jehan became very ill in his old age this launched a competition for the throne between his four sons. The youngest are ings Zab killed one of his brothers and eventually claim the empire. He sent his father away to the Red Fort as sandstone fortress located on the yarmulke river. It was basically a prison for Schaja Han where he spent the last years of his life until his death in sixteen sixty six whatever happened to respecting your elders little own your own father. And I have to ask could the so-called curse of the diamond have led to John's plight possibly, but we can also blame or ings ABS greed. He wanted the kingdom and all its treasures to himself in colluding. The great mogul diamond are exempt kept all that he wrongfully inherited in a special chamber in the palace. He was very proud of it his collection caught the eye of famous jewel merchant from France named John Baptiste Tavernier Tavernier was a world traveler and Jim aficionado who made six voyages to the east between sixteen thirty two and sixteen sixty eight. He wrote extensively about as experiences eventually publishing the two volume book, the six voyages of John Baptiste Taverny it became a best seller and was translated into four languages in his lifetime. This man was so obsessed with diamonds that he traveled at his own expense in search of them and reveled in the opportunity to study them since only royalty in the extremely affluent could get hold of such prizes tavern gay met with a lot of important global leaders. He was known internationally for his expertise in gemstones. One such leader, which Shah Jehan son king orange ebb who led Tavernier get acquainted with the great mogul diamond. Officers escort a tiger nee into a small chamber where the king was sitting on his throne Tavernier's, then met the chief keeper of the jewels. I cal- Khan who commanded for Unix to fetch the stones. They brought the gyms out on gilded wooden trays covered with red velvet cloths to protect them such presentation. And understandably so Taverny was off by all this and documented the experience writing, quote, the first piece which Cal con put in my hands was the great diamond, which is around rose cut very high on one side on the lower edge. There is a slight crack and a little flaw in it. It's water is beautiful unquote water refers to diamonds degree of brilliance. So according to her knee, a the great mogul was extremely bright and sparkly to put it in simpler, terms, it made quite the impression on him. And he forever. Immortalized it by drawing a sketch of it in his book after this Taverny continued on his journey of Jules leaving the great mogul behind better to have loved and loss than never to have loved at all they say the diamond remained with the mogul empire passing hands to an emperor. By the name of Mohammad Shah in seventeen nineteen a little over fifty years after orange ebb ruled the region, but it would not stay with this new leader for long, perhaps we have the curse to blame for that. Because emperor. Muhammad Shah was in for a world of trouble could the great mogul diamond had been responsible for the fall of Mohammad Shah's empire. We'll find out after the break. Richard. And I have some exciting news for you starting now, you can listen to gone episodes that are older than six months completely ad free exclusively on Stitcher premium. We are always looking for ways to improve listener experience. We found an amazing partner in Stitcher to bring you episodes ad free. Six months after they are released again, this will only affect episodes older than six months. Nothing else will change will still be releasing new gone episodes wherever you listen to podcasts for a free month trial, go to Stitcher premium dot com slash podcast and use promo code park cast that Stitcher premium dot com slash podcast and use promo code park cast. Now back to the story. In seventeen thirty eight mogul emperor Muhammad Shah possessed one of the region's most valued treasures, the great mogul diamond. But that and everything else Mohammed-owned was about to be threatened a bloodthirsty emperor from Persia was coming for the mogul empire. His name was nuttier Shah born in sixteen eighty eight in Khorasani Persia, dear grew up a poor peasant. He was forced into slavery, but escaped captivity in eventually became a soldier the military was where he thrived Nadiri advanced quickly there. But when he conflicted with a high ranking official Nadiri went rogue and formed his own army. Bold move, definitely. And it set the stage for Nadir's rise to power in seventeen twenty nine he freed Persia from Afghan control and seven years later ascended to the throne as emperor of Persia not. Long after he went on a conquering rampage throughout much of the east which led him to just outside of Delhi. India with a foolproof strategy for a takeover at karnal, sixty eight miles north of Delhi. Nadu Shah led his army of twenty thousand against Muhammad Shah's forces consisting of nearly three hundred thousand soldiers and two thousand wars elephants, although deers troops were greatly outnumbered. Muhammed's forces had a disadvantage. There are Tillery was fairly antiquated much too heavy and hard to maneuver Nadir's Shaw. Ever the military strategist used a three prong approach. Dividing? His limited troops into three main sectors using one of these lines of offense as a diversion, Shah commanded an ambush, and it was downhill for the mogul troops from there. The Persians defeated their enemy within three hours of the battles. Start. This was the beginning of the end of the mogul dynasty, Mohammad Shah soon handed over his empire tuna dear soon after the deer began enforcing strict laws and taxation on citizens. The Persian military presence was oppressive soldiers were quick to punish civilians this intern catalyzed an uprising as civilians fought back killing the dears men when the deer himself rode out from his newly claimed palace a man fired a musket at him narrowly missing him, this was the last straw, and it drove nuttier to seek safety at the top of a mosque once there he ordered his men to enter all the areas where Persian soldiers were being attacked and kill every civilian inside. He raised his sword. Which signalled the start of a massacre? Around thirty thousand civilians, including women and children were killed by Persians after the bloodshed now, dear had his men plunder all the riches and treasures of the mogul dynasty, stealing the famous peacock throne. And of course, the legendary great mogul diamond, sadly, Nadir's bloodlust only increased as he traveled the lands to gain more territory, he loved war, and he took pride in decimating villages and cities at one point when told that there would be no war in the afterlife. Dear responded with quote, how can there be any delights there? End quote, his murderous rampages caught up with him though. And he developed severe liver and gastrointestinal problems not to mention his mind began to get the best of him as he became increasingly psychotic. As time went on then in seventeen forty one and assassination. Attempt. Put him over the edge. The deer was convinced that his eldest son raise Kuli Mirza was the man behind the plot. So he had him blinded six years later afternoon deers physical and mental states continued to deteriorate several of his commanders entered his private quarters while he slept once they're they attacked him. But he awoke and fought back. He killed two of them. But the others managed to cut off his head that's in seventeen forty seven deer. Shaw's violent reign came to an end Nydia left behind a treasure trove among the valuables, the great mogul diamond or so we think we don't know for sure because after Nadir's death the diamond couldn't be found or tract. Where did that majestic stone sneak off to was it? Strategically taken or did it simply get lost in the mix. One thing to note is that the great mogul diamond is only called that in John Baptiste have as report that's the name. He gave it many believe that the great mogul diamond could have become the Kohinoor diamond the great mogul diamond disappeared from written history leaving no track record. So in a similar diamond popped up in British records. Some historians and jewelers suggested. It was actually that same stone making a reappearance. Let's take a look at the story of the Kohinoor and see if it lines up with the great mogul, first of all Kohinoor means mountain of light in Persian. According to an article in scientific American it was Nadu Shah who named the great mogul, the Kohinoor when he first laid eyes on it. This would have been in seventeen thirty nine when it fell into his hands after the battle of karnal, perhaps the great mogul was simply renamed by it's last confirmed owner mountain of light sounds as though it would benefit anyone who possessed it, however, Hindu text claimed only a woman could wear the Kohinoor if a man owned it. He would be cursed another aspect which links the two diamonds making a case for their shared identity. Bright Shah Jehan died in captivity after his son, basically imprisoned him. Dear Shah was murdered by his own men in the store. Of the Kohinoor afternoon. Dear Shah's, death, the stone passed to one of his generals Ahmad Shah Durrani, his descendant Shah shoe, John Durrani, eventually got a hold of the diamond and brought it back to India in eighteen thirteen in the early nineteenth century, the Kohinoor diamond pass to shy. Shia of Afghanistan who had inherited it. Now, the maharaja of Punjab India a man by the name of Ron Jeet Singh. Got wind of the Kohinoor prestige. And he wanted it badly. He tried to strike a deal with the Afghan leader. But Shashi ah didn't want to hand it over this caused some diplomatic issues and mighty the political waters between the two regions sing stalled by lying several times. I saying that he pawned the Kohinoor then saying it was lost with a bunch of other jewels. And after the third request he sent a Topaz gem to run Jeet Singh. Cl-? Claiming that was the jewel seeing was furious at the ruse and in a surprising power move Senate guard to she has house to prevent him from drinking or eating for two days. She finally caved and agreed to hand over the diamond. And so it made its way to a new owner yet again in eighteen forty three Duleep Singh. The last of Ranjit Jeet Singh sons became the ruler of Punjab and inherited the Kohinoor. He was only ten years old at the time while this was going on the British of the East India company and the sick empire were entangled in a series of wars for control of the continent. The East India company had first arrived on the shores of India in sixteen eight with two goals in mind established trade and acquire territory in sixteen fifteen the British established a factory at Seurat and eventually formed several trading posts along the coast. The British established large communities around the three primary cities of Calcutta Bombay and Madras, but what started out as a business venture eventually transformed into a military takeover. The company gained a stronghold in the region and eventually began to dominate Indian government and education by eighteen forty nine the British claimed the ultimate victory and gained ownership of Lahore, the capital city of Punjab, and guess what the British wanted the Kohinoor they made this clear in the treaty. They forced young leap sing to sign part of the treaty. Read quote, the gem called the Kohinoor Shelby, surrendered by the maharaja of Lahore to the Queen of England and quote, once surrendered the diamond was put in supposedly safe, keeping it was weighed at one hundred eighty seven carrots, which is almost one hundred less than the last week of the great mogul. So if the coup. Nor is the great mogul diamond. It would have been cut sometime in the century between Shana deers murder and the British acquisition of the diamond. It seems odd that any owners would want to cut the diamond while Taverny did note a slight flaw that an owner might have wanted to remove cutting the diamond that severely seems illogical losing so many carrots would certainly sink its value. But there are Irie similarities between the great mogul diamond and the Kohinoor once it was weighed three members of the British government at Poon job tasked with holding the Kohinoor until they were ordered to do. Otherwise, one of those men. John Lawrence would be the one to keep it on his person. But one night Lawrence place, the diamond which was now encased in a box inside his coat pocket. However when he changed for dinner and removed his coat. He forgot to transfer the diamond about six weeks later. The men received a message that Queen Victoria wanted the diamond immediately. And then came the Ono moment for Lawrence. He didn't know where the diamond was will find out where the diamond went after the break. Now back to the story. In eighteen fifty nine John Lawrence tasked with protecting the Kohinoor diamond had forgotten it in his coat pocket several weeks earlier. And now the Queen of England herself was ordering it to be delivered to her as soon as possible pretending. He knew exactly where it was Lawrence quickly. Ran to find his servant and asked if he had found anything in his coat pocket weeks. Earlier the servant replied, yes. I've found it and put it in one of your boxes. The servant brought the box to him and Lawrence opened it to find the diamond safe and sound. Wow. Can you imagine the relief? Lawrence must've felt what a close call. Indeed, it was it could have easily been stolen or lost. And that would have been a hefty price to pay. Now that the diamond was located it was on its way to England. But I it had to survive the streets of Bombay India and some of its rougher areas it passed through unscathed, and once it reached London it was put an iron box and deposited in the government treasury on July third eighteen fifty the deputy chairman hand delivered to Buckingham Palace for the Queen. But as it crossed into Britain's epicenter it brought with it the whispers of suspicion the legend of this diamond that it carried a bad luck Kerr's became a rumor that swept the nation in many were wary of its potential power. This curse is reminiscent of the curse that came. With the great mogul diamond the similarities between that and the Kohinoor are stacking up and this curse. Only made the Kohinoor. More alluring in England it debuted in the great exhibition in the crystal. Palace in Hyde Park, people came in droves to view it. It was the toast of the town. But then people started to talk and criticize the diamond the main note was that it didn't shine as brilliantly as everyone had hoped. And there was one important man who agreed with the sentiment Prince Albert Queen Victoria's husband. So he ordered it be re cut and polished Prince Albert higher deduction named voice longer a reputable diamond cutter who travelled to London to do the work this process took thirty eight days the gem now weighed one hundred five carrots, but the re cutting allowed it's face to refracted more light. So it appeared to be brighter and more brilliant Queen Victoria began wearing it as broach. There's a photo of her taken in eighteen eighty seven in which she is clad in diamonds, but the Kohinoor stands out as the largest and most notable. The stone wouldn't stay in that broach forever though, it was eventually placed in the center of a Royal crown and Queen Alexandra Victoria's daughter-in-law was the first to wear it. Then in nineteen thirty seven the Kohinoor was reset into a new crown and the Queen Mother began wearing it. The Queen Mother refers to Elizabeth Angela Marguerite bowes-lyon the wife of King, George the sixth and the mother of Queen. Elizabeth the second and Princess, Margaret, she even more it at her own funeral in two thousand two that was the last time the Kohinoor made a public appearance. The diamond remains in the crown and now resides in the jewel house in the tower of London. There's been much controversy surrounding the true ownership of this diamond Indian government officials have repeatedly demanded it be returned citing that it was forcibly taken during England's colonisation of India. According to an article from the telegraph posted in two thousand sixteen the ministry of culture said quote, the government of India further reiterates, its resolve to make all possible efforts to bring back the Kohinoor diamond in an amicable manner, and quote and the controversy continues to this day, but the history of the Kohinoor prior to being in British hands is muddy and it's hard to verify who exactly owned it or where exactly it came from other than a mine in gull Kanda the same area, the great mogul diamond came from could this mean that the Kohinoor was indeed the great mogul diamond at one point, and perhaps it was only its name that changed a mineralogical by the name of James Tennant think. So he believes that the Kohinoor displays similarities to the great mogul described by expert jeweler Jean Baptiste Tavernier during his study of it tenant rights, quote the. Kohinoor had a flaw near the summit which being on a line of cleavage parallel to the upper surface may very possibly have been produced when the upper portion was removed, and quote, if you'll recall much of the great mogul was removed in the mid sixteen hundreds when Shah Jehan had it recovered. However, the Kohinoor wait never matched up with a great mogul. According to record the last known weight of the great mogul was two hundred eighty three carrots. But when the Cohen nor made it to England it was only one hundred eighty seven carrots, some historians. Believe that this is because John Baptiste have Rene may have recorded an inaccurate weighed when he wrote about the great mogul in his report interesting putting the Kohinoor aside for a moment. There's another name another identity that the great mogul could've assumed it's time to hear the story of the Orlov diamond which ended up. In the hands of Russian empress, Catherine the great in seventeen sixty eight. This story is steeped much more in mystery legend and criminal intrigue and it begins in the temple of three wrong gum in southern India. It's unclear how this legend originated, but it's closely tied with the Orlov inside a temple dating back to the mid seventeenth century stanzas statue of the deity Lord rung enough. His eyes were composed of two stunning diamonds in the mid eighteenth century, several countries were competing for territory in India in what is known as the Karnik wars during this time, a French soldier abandoned his post and deserted his unit going under the radar. He found a job near the town of three Ron gum as he worked. He listened to the local speak of the temple and the idol containing the precious jewels. This Frenchman's desire was sparked any knew he had to steal the diamonds. But this would be a most impossible mission. Why because only Hindus were allowed in the temple and the statue remained in a sacred space several enclosures deep, so the Frenchman converted to Hinduism and gain the trust of several priests who worked in the temple eventually he gained access inside. And as he continued to prove his devotion. He was given the task of guardian to the central shrine not long after he began serving. They're a storm struck the land and the Frenchman found himself alone inside the temple. He saw his window of opportunity. He approached the statue stared up at the gleaming diamond is and began to pry one from it's socket until it came free after this. He must have gotten scared because instead of prying out the other diamond the Frenchman fled. He climbed the temple walls managed to swim across a river and navigated the nearby jungles until he reached the city of Madras there. He quickly sold the diamond to a British sea-captain for much less than it was worth probably. So he could get out of the area quickly with some money in his pocket. And maybe he was afraid of a possible curse. It was rumored to carry after that the diamond was sold several times by different merchants until it was purchased by a man named Schaaf RAs, he was an Armenian diamond dealer. Living in Amsterdam the year was seventeen sixty eight twenty one year. After the great mogul disappeared following the deer Shah's assassination count. Gregory Gregoria vich Orlov bought the diamond from Schaaf Ross in Amsterdam like the Frenchman or loft to was on a mission. But instead of stealing jewel he was looking to steal back a heart the heart of Catherine the great born in Prussia in seventeen twenty nine and originally called Sophie, Catherine was the daughter of a German prince who didn't have much money to his name. But what he lacked in funds? He hadn't connections and Catherine was married off to Peter the third of the Romanov dynasty in seventeen forty five. It was hardly a match made in heaven the two couldn't stand. Each other Peter inherited the throne in seventeen sixty two but he was strongly disliked by his people, including his wife who decided to take a lover count Orlov. They began an affair and with the help. His secret group of conspirators planned the assassination of her husband, Peter once the assassination was carried out in seventeen sixty two Catherine became empress. The throne was hers. It was a new horizon involving new responsibilities and new desires or loft became a thing of the past for her. She had her eyes set on new suitors or luff was crushed. He was determined to win Catherine back, and that's what led him to the jeweler named Schaaf RAs who showed him the stunning rose cut diamond. He bought it immediately and had it sent to Catherine while she accepted the diamond with much delight. She didn't rekindle her romance with lawf-, but she did shower him with lavish gifts as she did was all her lovers that was the end of their story. But not the end of the diamonds it was placed in the imperial sceptre a metal rod wielded by the person in power. The diamond remains. In the sceptre, which is displayed in the diamond fund in the Kremlin museum in Russia. Now, there are a number of reasons why some historians have claimed this diamond could be the great mogul. I is the striking similarity between the ARL off and the drawing done by Giambattista vignette back in sixteen sixty five. Both diamonds have the same half egg shape. Both a rose cut stones with similar facets and their coloring. Both diamonds are described as white with a hint of the slightest blue, but there's a specific detail that seems to really intrigued historians Tavernier wrote about it saying there was a slight crack and flaw at the bottom of the great mogul. They're also happens to be a slight indentation at the base of the Orlov that could be this very flaw. The weight of the Orlov is about one hundred ninety carrots slightly more than the Kohinoor was when it first came to England. However, neither diamond matches the supposed weight of the great mogul. Various jewel, experts and historians have debated whether the great mogul might have taken on a new identity following the chaos of war yet. There's another theory that has been tossed around that the great mogul was cut into several smaller pieces and all those pieces went their separate ways. While this is possible. It seems as though whoever came into possession of the great mogul would want to preserve its grandiosity to maintain its value, which leaves us with the likely scenario that the great mogul adopted a new name, and is hiding in plain sight the question is which name did it take. I think it makes the most sense that the great mogul became the Kohinoor Nadir's Shaw who acquired the great mogul after defeating Muhammad Shah called it the co in nor because it reminded him of a mountain of light. Also when drawings were done of the Kohinoor in England it had. Similar diameter to the great mogul when drawn by John Baptiste Tavernier, you make some good points. But I have to say I think it's a stronger possibility that became the Orlov I say this because of the color the Cohen, Noor is simply a white diamond noticeable bluish tinge, but the are lawf- has that blue coloring attributed to the great mogul, the diamonds also share the unusual rose cut and the Orlov diamond closely resembles Tavernier's drawing. Well, I guess we have to acknowledge that there's no definitive answer. But I will say this if you'll recall the great mogul diamond supposedly carried with it occurs that its owner would face terrible misfortune, if the owner was a man, but any female owner would be immune to the curse and actually prosper if we look back at the history of the Kohinoor, especially the female leaders wore it. We see a long line of British women surviving and thriving Queen Victoria, Queen Alexandra Queen Mary the Queen Mother. And even though she doesn't wear it. The diamonds current owner Queen Elizabeth the second is the longest reigning monarch since Queen Victoria. So if you believe the two diamonds are one in the same you're admitting that you buy into the legend of its curse, I guess I am. Yes. Well, whatever the true identity of the great mogul is now we know the great mogul in all its brilliance despite its so called imperfections sparked greed it fed into human hubris. It was one of the most coveted rewards in the spoils of war. It's many wars deaths and assassinations through it sometimes tragic always tense history. The great mogul diamond has probably stood witness to more than we can even imagine. Thanks for tuning in to gone. If you wanna find more episodes or any of par casts other podcasts, you can find us on apple podcasts, Stitcher, Google, play cast box tune in or your favorite podcast directory. Many of you have asked us how you can help the show if you enjoy the show the best way you can do that is to leave a five star review. You can also tell us your theories on Facebook and Instagram at par cast on Twitter at parkas network or at parkas dot com. We'll be back in two weeks with another episode just because it's gone doesn't mean it can't be found gone was created. By max Cutler is a production of Cutler media and is part of the park cast network. It is produced by Maxon Ron Cutler sound design by dick Schroeder with production assistance by Ron Shapiro. Paul Moller Maggie admire. 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TRR568 06 17 20 - Doctor Who - Game Show - Hello Death - UK Update
"Hey. They're Ralph garment here. Thanks so much checking out this free edition of the row report. If you like what you hear, do me a favor. Subscribe to the Ralph Report, so we can put some fun in your ears five days a week, and you can listen for as little as three dollars a month, so subscribed today. So you know, miss out on any of the fun. Go to Patriotdepot, dot, com slash the Roth report and sign up. Welcome to the Ralph report. With Garmon. Well! Hello there. Boys and girls welcome to the Ralph reports for a Wednesday, it is June seventeenth and we're so pleased that you're joining us yet again for today's show, I am your old podcast. Powell Ralph Garman sitting here in the bat cave with me. Is the vice host himself. Please make him feel welcome. He's pens. Hey, everybody. Yoho any holy, she's Moody. Alcyone your hair. It's long. Long looked like a like a hippie. Yeah, I'm looking like Obi one episode two like a beaten Al a Hobo. Address like a whole bunch as well. Have the hair Hobo. Is it time for me to get my clippers out time for me? Levin special segment out of. HAIRDO Tuesday. Oh, no, that doesn't realize. Trim trimmed Tuesday's. Coughing. When they. quaffing Wednesday how now come on now, I would do such a good. No, what's your problem? Not even happy with your haircut I had to do it to myself. If I could have cloned myself and cut my hair down, you clone yourself. First thing I would do. Show me and then. In the Post, the Post Cordell blow I would cut my own hair lovingly but if I had the perspective of being able to view my head yams from a distance, I would have crushed it given the that I did this to myself. In a mirror with naked standing in the shower. Is that part of this naked standing in your cell? Yeah. Contorted myself and all different positions I. got this good imagine if I took my time, and I was able to sculpt you like the fine piece of art that you are thank you. I appreciate that, but now I don't I don't think so I trained professionals only week, trained pussy. Pussy. Thanks I pick up. That from that Guy Taught me what it is to be real man. Get a haircut. God's sakes was all fine. Still Flu I go, don't wear masks. Be a real man. Yeah, so that's about all right Well, it's a shame you won't let me do that, but. If it gets too much more out of hand. Maybe we're probably a week away from you coming back, saying. Hey, remember that thing you said about thing he'll be like. Yeah, but now you've got to be naked in the shower. Hell! Yeah, you do. That's the only way you can keep forgetting hair all over the place. I guess unless were those. Those mocks this mock may have some that has like a like a hoop like a WHO oh, yes, that catches it. Yeah, and you just snap it around your neck. It all falls in them, but I didn't have that, so I had a I had a tarp thrown at the bottom of the. Of the shower thoughts sort of mid haircut if I die suddenly. Concert and a wonder what the hell was going on here. What does sick? Was it some weird hair cutting fetish? She had the. Night nicest balls or shore, and the girl or guy who was doing it just dropped the razor. Ran Out of the house. This is some weird sex tryst. They have some kink about cutting hair in the nude. There'd be no way to explain Oh my no way at all. Be One of those Hollywood mysteries, but check back in a week all right. We'll check in in a week. What else Oh, we got a hell of a show lined up for today. Kids because. You WanNa, know why. I'll tell you why. Because it's Wednesday and Wednesday's. We like to take a look at a smash hit song done by artist who has never quite capable of regaining that level of success again in today's is a good one I wanNA. Thank I. Forget his name now. Brian. I think it was well. We'll find out later. for suggesting this because this was one of my favorite songs, and then the band badges kind of went away. Apparently, they're still around, but they just don't do A. A decade I WANNA say nine hundred nineties late eighties early nineties again I don't have the information at my fingertips, but we'll get to it a little bit also because it's Wednesday. Steve Ashton is gonNA stop by with a UK update. We've got entertainment news for you. We've got your phone calls so much. Show that when it's all over, you're going to go off I'm spent I need a cigarette. That was a good damn. Show Dont Garin de Guarantee, but since we're talking about Eddie pence though we're hair aside. I'm very excited because we haven't done this particular thing in a while and I'm looking forward to it because It's always fun. I think in my opinion. We're GONNA play the game show. We're GONNA. Play the army game show. We haven't done it for a while. I was able to whip up a batch of questions in celebration of father's Day coming up this week, so I thought we'd crank up the old army game. Show theme, Hey Cooperman. Time for America's. fastest-growing, three, instance Asian. Army James Joe with the host. And the contestant. That can you say? Thank you John Cooperman more on Cooperman later in the show to really excite Cooperman, update for. Thank you John Government thank you for joining US Ladies and gentlemen to the garment game show a game show where one of you, members of the army could win some fabulous cash and prizes cash, including simply by having Eddie pence play on your behalf. You know the rules by now I, ask Eddie, pence, ten questions. All he has to do is get five of them right half, not even better than. than half he doesn't have to do. Above have half simply half, and you will be a winner now. Of course, we also have a a bonus scoring opportunity as well. If Eddie Pants gets blanked. If he can't come up with one answer, then you will also wins. Yes, fabulous cash and prizes cash not include all right. Let's find out what you're playing for. Today Ralph Garman whether they playing for. They'll be playing. God Swag. The rumour gift bags, Louis. Not Bad the RUB board air pollution. Why. Thank you so much rob garment off. He's the best. He's hot. All right depends. Who are you going to be playing for today, Matt scully Matt scully at C. Sounds like a man's man is straight out. Novi Michigan Novi Novi Michigan. That was the place I. Didn't either Matt Scott I bet his Powell's call him skol skulls. Yeah, dolls, the bud! Let's go get A. A haircut because a real man skulls, the name like that you have to shave your head. Ball Matt. scully. Yeah, you gotTA. Be like a private eye or a cop or something like Matt. scully all right Mattie, You're the guy that Eddie pence playing for. Keep in mind if he wins you win. It's just that simple a real quickly. He's from Novi Michigan. Says No. quick apology to all our listeners in Michigan apparently yesterday, when I was talking about the origin of Fudge and that the first fudge shops were featured on a small popular tourist destination, an island in Michigan. I was saying the name incorrectly Oh it is. I'm trying to remember the name now of the mackinaw mackinaw mackinaw island mackinac island. It's spelled Mak. But it's pronounced. Apparently, mackinaw is really on you mish I, think more than it is on think, but although I was pronouncing Mak, it's actually pronounced mackinac island. No said Mike. No sensitive Indian names apparently okay, then they don't. They don't use whatever they like like. The rest of us do so apologies. All you Michigan out there. apologies okay. Let's play the army game. Show as I mentioned Eddie, pants. All of these questions are gonNA. Be revolving around father's Day. These are all famous fathers. Okay, famous fathers fathers in movies, television music a sports. Famous father famous father. He got the concept I. Think I know it's father's right if I raise eighty you. This father has kids named a Bart Lisa Maggie always hoped that your answer would be now got clear picture. That's how we would play the Game Laura. Ask You ten questions. I'm asking you to keep keep score for yourself again all right here. We go the army game show. We go in the National Lampoon vacation franchise. Play. Father who only wanted to make his family happy with disastrous results, name him clerk, W griswold Clark W. Griswold is correct pants, but you. Are Up one there we go. We're well on our way. Street Matt, scully. It's time for you to start finding a place for that row. Fort Shot Glass on your collectibles. Shelf. Number two here's a little a little audio assistance for this one. Is Daisy. Mike Brady played of course by Robert read perhaps one of the most famous Sitcom. In all of television history, right, yes, what was Mr Brady's career? What did he do for a living Mr Three? He was an architect. I WANNA say you're right. He is in fact, an architect. That's two questions and two correct answers, only three more to go. I'm glad you asked me what his name was. Because I was going to say. Wait Brady you. What was what was in my head waiting to pop out what was going to be in the name of Wayne Brady? Popular improviser from whose line is way, and I noticed of the new. Let's make a deal. We start playing the music. I'm like okay Wayne Brady Wayne Brady. Damn I. Wish I had asked different question. Right for two so far, I may not even get through all the way, not I'm GonNa ask him all anyway because I worked hard on him, but here we go. Bryan Cranston. Is a big movie star now. And of course he was very popular on television series, called breaking bad, but his big break was playing Hal Wilkerson. The father on this popular Sitcom from the year two thousand to two thousand six name. The SITKA knock him in the middle. Malcolm in the middle is correct Eddie pence three up three down? See how easy he makes it look boys and girls right number four. Canadian James Naismith is known as the father of which sport Canadian James. Naismith is known as the father of which sports I'm guessing but I'm going to say hawk. I'm sorry, depends basketball believe it really basketball invented by a Canadian thousand American, Sport Nope. Popularized here in America, but invented in Canada did not know that of all places all right? What's the score now? I got three right one world where I just two more now to more out of. Six all right. This next one is an audio clue. Eddie pants an audio clue name. This hit song from nineteen eighty eight. Right. That is correct father figure by George Michael is correct. Eddie pence. You've got flout simply. One one four two to win it all. I've been in this position before, and I blanked the rest all right. Let's stay musical. Let's stay musical. Name the famous musical father of Jakup the lead singer of this popular nineties band. Band is known as the wallflowers the lead singer Jacob. Ban has famous musical father. Please name him Oh. Wayne Newton. Not. Hell Mary Pass be five Dylan. Jacob Dylan got the the no that lead singer for the wallflower didn't know that all right. LET'S GO SCI-FI K.! We're going sci-fi now right now, get four. What four all right in both versions of the famous television show Battle Star. GALACTICA both Apollo's served alongside their father's name, the character that is the father of Apollo on both battle. Star Galactica TV. Carl. No I have no idea. No idea commander, Adama. Watch battles. Watch the newest I watched. The other one was the the old one. was. Commander Green actually had the action finger but I. don't remember the names all. Action. Finger finger the finger of the action figures. are going to go back to sports intensity now we have three one hundred four to three now. Yeah we're right three okay. Regarded as one of the greatest drivers in Nascar History Eddie Pence. This famous father won a total of seventy six Winston Cup races over the course of his career, including the nineteen, ninety eight Daytona five hundred, his son junior was also a successful driver with two time Daytona five hundred wins. That is they both. Share this famous name, even though the real first name for both of these men is Ralph. Believe it or not, that's the. I picked this question I need the name of this famous father and famous NASCAR driver. I know the I'm blanking on the name. I'm blanking on the name. That wouldn't be good. It's not this situation. It's not an is dependent upon you coming up with the name. And I think he's a Redskins Fan, too. I don't I don't know anything about is I just know these two men share name. NASCAR, drivers father died on the racetrack. Correct I'm not sure, but that sounds right. I. It's on the tip of my tongue I can't. sorry, we're looking for Dale EARNHARDT. and. EARNHARDT Jr. of the name would be the name looking for both of their names are actually Ralph. Dale EARNHARDT and they didn't want to go with the Ralph Day. How dare you, sir? How later both both of them throughout route all right? What are we at now? What are we got? There's two more left. I gotta get one of those. Go one at its I have I've blown this lead I feel like the Falcons in the Super Bowl. Halftime Twenty eight to three. This all right in the legendary movie the Lion King Disney Classic. The lion case young line. Come Simba must grow into a king take his father's place of course voiced by the Great James Earl Jones in that film name, his father famous father in the Lion King Fossa. We'll says correct. You? How out of Chatham made myself worked for that? You are a winner more importantly. SCULLY is a winner and that means. We've got to read the last question when I asked to see if you would have gotten that, see this famous father played the debt of his real son. In Oliver Stone's nineteen eighty-seven. Street there you go either way you would have gotten it any. Matt scully of Novi Michigan Congratulations. You are the winner of today's Garmisch game show. Keep an eye on your mailbox if we get. Full of Ralph Report Swag, so you too can celebrate Eddie Pence's victory. What a win! Next time on. The. Show. Garnered game show is a market and bill any production. Eddie Wow. I kept rushing the earnhardt thing I should have gotten i. Could, not think of the name CNN I I. Think that I kept thinking. That was a slam dunk. It shouldn't be only know the name of one NASCAR driver Dale Juniors a big Redskins Fan, is he? Not I just could not think of it. Oh. Hey throughout the name rouse. You. All right boys and girls while Eddie pens basks in the glow visiting. Let's turn our attention to you guys the army. We love it when you reach out to us whether it's via email, social media, or as many of you do leaving a message on the Ralph. Report Hotline Twenty four hours a day seven days a week. It's available to you. You can leave your thoughts. Your feelings your questions. You have to do is dial up number one, eight, three three. I. which is what the EARNHARDT should've had is their. Number 'cause, it's a perfect name. Just saying you Yeah, you leave your messages. I listened to them. All I played back a couple of them. Every show in a segment called Garmin on the line. Phone is ringing. The. Only. Yesterday right here on the row report. We got scoop. We broke the news about the Eddie Pants comedy on special. Then we'll be airing around the world on September I s Casey Casey from DC called. Hi everybody. This is king from DC I just WanNa say I was very excited to hear about Eddie's comedy special, and for someone who's actually seen it 'cause I went. Truly funny. You go and early review of the show. Thanks Casey appreciate. Most people are going to have to wait till September. Casey's like. He saw with this guy, asked this old news to me, but still thought it was very funny. I thank you Casey as you know, Eh, depends. was able to raise a substantial amount of money to to produce that special. Thanks to folks like the Garm there. Yes, he took a portion of it and bought himself a boat. We know that we know that much small boat was little building. Hey Ralph. This is Andy General from San Antonio. Talking about Eddie and has little. Guinea and I was wondering if you guys had a boat, what would you call it Lindsay Lee, my wife. And less something might happen to her and that case. Maybe the PAG may yeah. What's up, Eddie? Yeah, Star wars since pound Allenby's. Asked more. Had Me on a bad name for boats, an awful me. Would get bogged down. In the PREQUELS and she did. Excellent question if you had a boat, you know you got to give it. A fancy name gotta to give it a cool name. Right boat owner, right? What would you call it interesting question? I think I would be obligated to call mine the Livy Lou because Libya, my daughter when when she was very little, we used to call her Livy Lushes, and then Livy Lou became short for Luscious I. Think Live. The livy Lou sounds like. The does Lou. Yeah sounds like an old like one of those paddle wheel steamboats from going up and down. The Mississippi with those gamblers on its Australia saw. I have come here on pound. The live Lou to win my fortune in gambling saw definitely a maverick would play cards on the Livy looter yeah. well, the old news coming into. So, that's what I would think. My name for my kid when he was little would make a good boked. 'cause we call it. The pooper called him come. The toilet stop blogger. Locker. It's very wide boat. Yes, it is. Coming down the mighty Mississippi. Um The damn. I. We call because we call him monkey when he was little by little monkey, the Monkey, and then we call them no heed short monks call monks for a long time and I don't think that'd be a good boat name now, proudly monks either the monks. Would you get a bunch of guys in Rhode showing up thinking of some sort of religious retreats, most boring boat ride over, it would be helpful at all I well. What about named after Your Lady? Do you have a nickname trade lady? Yeah, trace trace. Cut half the name off and then that's pretty inventive nicknames. That's how I do nicknames. Some trace monks Tracy Tracy monk trays monks the trace monks. I don't know something like that. The monkey trace the tracy modest monks. Were The trace monkey still floating. That's probably what I would call. It still flows the floater I would call the floater. That's what I would call my boat. That's perfect for your son. Know that much. Since, he clogged toilet. Isn't been over here yet. It hasn't clogged clogged the new home up yet, so. We'll have to have him Chris and the floater. Livy Lou and the floater. Those are going to be the name for boats. You can take the floater down to Myrtle beach by the way I thought it'd be perfect because. They. Would everybody be partying? Do a big rebel flag on the back perfect. It wouldn't be welcome in Nasca would not. This, gentleman called in. He's got a problem. He hopes that maybe we can help solve it. Hey, Ralph I'd prefer to remain anonymous on this one I. Am My sleep apparently since I've been like A. Teenager many years have been. Yelling sexual obscenities in my sleet and being very vulgar something they kind of coin sex Omnia, anyway with my girlfriend little while ago I, it's my sleep. Apparently I was having one of those episodes and I said the name Kermit's. Probably referring to the frog, and now I need to know how to live after basically potentially having sex dream. Was I the top? Bottom with either hand puppet, I don't know. Maybe you can help. Kermit if yell out. Kermit during assess stream. Is Swimming. Your fisting Kerman I assumes or fingering I. Don't know if you've got a whole fist a frog. Well you can't of. It's all the puppet. Yeah, obviously, the past right up I suppose now I can't believe that sex. Saami I'd ever been before That's the thing I am so inspired by this phone call that can be tomorrow's I should junior fascinating sex saen only yelling and talking about sex in your sleep, but some people actually have sex in their sleep eddie. So we'll be talking about. But I'm assuming much like. Miss Piggy. You probably got a little frog in your throat. That's what I'm guessing. Was your situation there well. Okay, good y'all Kermit, if he's in your throat Oh if if Mississippi's in your mouth as he finishes in your mouth, you know Karmic. Those you give me the tap on the head? my God. Speaking of things in your mouth, munching Monday still very much on people's minds, Joe, called in with an excellent idea. Is Joe. Star general from Connecticut. Blogger show early on today Next week and I'm sorry. This is going to next week. Monday and Monday yeah. You need to make up potato milkshake. Yeah, how you know. He said he need them. Yeah, he's got had. He's already had them. He likes them. That's right montage Monday. Potato. A love it. A lending well done joe any beds. He has no problem. Potato milkshakes plenty of in their man so I'm going to whip up some potato milk shell. Not all potato is not just a big cup of mashed potatoes with a straw. I will mix in some ice cream as well. What flavor do you want? Chocolate or vanilla? Whatever's easiest on well I. GotTa Make It I. Guess I'll make I'll make either but I'm gonNA. Make some alright I'll make chocolate potato milkshakes for months Monday and we'll watch Eddie just young. Yum! Yum, just just eat it up. He's had them before thick speaking of lies at Eddie pens tells about McDonald's yeah. You'll be happy to know that this coming Friday later on this week. You'll be hearing my interview with a former executive chef from mcdonagh chef Mike Chess Jeff Mike you know chef, my twitter, no chef. Mike is going to be on the show. We're GONNA talk about. Why people have told about McDonald's. Mike for a long time with an executive chef at McDonalds at their corporate headquarters, and now has moved onto other things, but St. still he knows plenty about the McDowell, that's fascinating McDonald's world, so we'll try to debunk all theory well, we're going. Explain why the liar that you are. That's all and since we're talking about food. Neal called in with this. Hey, Robbins Nielsen Buena Park one-star. Just heard you tell Eddie. On Tuesday show asking. Would Theresa and he said Yeah I'd probably eat that? You May WanNa. Tell him what's injury so or you agrees to eat it. I like it. Kind of offended when they hear what's in it? Yeah. It of you mean by Eddie will love. Theresa is not a problem that the inside of the skull right. Is that where they scrape out the meat from the inside of the skull. This is simply a spicy pork sausage that uses pork, meat and pork fat in the sausage, and the ad, their wrong. The spices, depending on which Latin culture you're talking about like a met conversion or Spanish version is a Portuguese was well. I believe they're mostly made up of the same stuff. Okay, what's the stuff? No, it's that's. told parts of the pork is at well. I think what he's talking about is maybe the casings for the The sausage may be where you have a hard time. Well, that's just like what intestine it's intestine. Yes, they. It's the pigs. That going into a sausage, but I would think. You'll be fine by business. How ever Theresa milkshakes coming up on? Much Monday. That's GONNA. Be You got those and potato near to thicken it up? Yeah, of course you have to be clumpy because you lie like a rug and thank you, boys and girls. Thanks to everybody who called in Youtube can be featured on this segment, but you know what you gotta do. You GotTa Call Me? All righty, every Wednesday Thursday and Friday. We have broken out a brand new segment here on the show called Hello Death where we pay tribute to people who have fallen on this day. Folks who passed away on the day in question we give you. there sees that they've left behind, and a lot of people are trying to participate in coming up with a jingle for this segment as I mentioned earlier in the week. The Great Mike Server. Who gave us this day in history? He had something he'd like to contribute. Hey Roberts Mike Thurber. Four star general. Rapper once. Listen I know you've been getting swamped with jingle ideas for Hello death, but after Cooperman, did one I had to. Defend my spell, or or just throw down the gauntlet and you gotTa let me do against him. One more time to I emailed you a jingle, yes, and I gotta say man I know. Everybody says this, but. This one's pretty good. I hope he got. Time to listen to another one great cocktail party this week. Oh, thank. Army is so fucking cool. Yes, and I love all you guys. Thank you for Thanks for all the smiles during this dark time all right. Stay stay swell and give how how all right my thank you so much service best is so he heard me play Cooperman's theme, which was as you may remember an Majd Michael. Jackson's dirty Diana was not great. So server said. I'm going to participate. About of retirement. Threw his hat in the ring. Then Cooperman hearing that Mike Server was going to come up with a theme right doubled down and sending a brand new name. He realized the first theme didn't go over so well. This is so. We have a new theme from Cooperman to play I to go up against to go up against Mike's amazing themes, so here's Cooperman's new theme, and then we'll play servers, and you make a call. Your. Bread. and. Permits new. Attempt at landing. Hello Death Jingle. All right one more time. Oh, it's obviously no Mazda putting on the Ritz from young Frankenstein. Gave your. Will Make you look? Paul that's like a fever. I feel bad for MOS dog. She's at dogs on nuts after that, so those Cooperman's latest attempt and here is servers I one again you make the call. Today list. Plant learn about the folks in the. Raps going to break it down. Death. As, Serb and Allen as pretty tight, pretty strong as pretty good. It's pretty damn has begun once Ganz. Really just I just to be fair on both sides. Sooner or later? On Mak- today while we're still above ground. The folks in the. Route's going to break it. Hello Depp. He's he's very talented. Wow, is very yes. I wish! I had a camera on Cooperman's face record. The listening right I don't know we'll see, but until we pick the two. We're going with the old one. Hey there. It's Ralph garment here. I hope you're enjoying the show and if you are why not subscribe to the Ralph Report, so you can hear it every day Monday through Friday for just fifteen cents a day. You can be a one star general supporter, and that will get you. The show in your ear holes Monday through Friday. Of course there are two three and four star general levels as well which gets you more bonus content more access to me, so if you like, you're hearing. Why not subscribe go to Patriotdepot? Dot Com slash the row report. That's P. A.. T. R. O. N. DOT COM slash. The report subscribed today, so you don't miss a thing. GASA. Now froze. Up. All right. It's time for us to examine. The legs left behind those who passed away on this day June seventeenth in the year seventeen, ninety seven. Aga- homemade con, cruel ruler of Persia was killed on this day. But I, he was castrated Oh God. They really didn't like Oh Aga- Mohammed Com. He deserved it. I'm guests on Guest News. He was not a good dude. On This Day in Eighteen, seventy six Harriet Scott. American ex slave, who, along with her husband, dread Scott unsuccessfully sued for their freedom from the United States member. We know that's right. Dread Scott as They were turned down by the Supreme Court, which said there were more property than they were. People are Supreme Court Man Disease Amazing on this day. In one thousand, nine, hundred eighty nine gene wildman was the last person to be publicly guillotine in France. Eighteen, thirty nine. I was surprised to find out that they were still doing it up until the lair. Wow, he was thirty one years old. He had murdered. Several people ask before the blade dropped. If he had any remorse for his victims, he replied remorse. What for I didn't even know them? Wow that that guy needed to go. Wow, that's to no nineteen two Jack. Parsons American rocket, scientists and weird sex occultist died at the age of thirty seven. Do you know this Guy Story? No, he helped found. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory JPL okay. Also aerojet Engineering Corporation. He was a rocket genius. He invented the first rocket engine to use a castle composite rocket propellant. he was a pioneer in the advancement of liquid-fuel and solid fuel rockets and when he wasn't doing that, he started a weird sex cult like a black magic colts. Really on the side in Pasadena really, they were called the Fella Mites. And they worshipped will first of all ancient Egyptian gods, so they're not all bad. But they started this new religious movements. And they did black magic rituals and weird sex rituals and stuff weird. One of his partners in this enterprise by the way was a guy by the name of Ron. Bird Brealey yes, this is a weird story. so Parsons separated from his wife Helen after starting affair with her sister Sarah, who was underaged by the Oh, my God i'm sure there were. Were some weird sex stuff going on there at Sarah left him for L. Ron Hubbard l Ron Hubbard married her. Even though he was already married to another woman at the time and in revenge Parsons started working, something called the Babylon working a series of rituals designed to invoke the goddess Babylon to return to Earth to smile his enemies. It's near Ghostbuster. Is Nuts bowery. Apparently, there's a web series on CBS. All access called strange. Angel, which tells the story of this guy's live I am seen and. It's fascinating has Edina has some weird history at does with the Nazis, and then with his black men, black magic thing thought a weird should happen a basset. Yeah, and they. They think that they the killer of the Black Dahlia was from Pasadena. He was a doctor apparently very well to do dot, has it? He has got some strange history strain stuff all right on this day in nineteen, eighty, one CERNA sharp passed away. She was the American writer educator behind. Dick and Jane gave us Dick and Changing See Dick EASY SAILOR! See the Senate today Dick J. See Dick, run, Dick Rasi. Jane Ron J see spot run, see Dick I. Don't think Dick and Jane really used to teach kids how to read anymore. Are they barely remember it I was I was I. Think I got a lot of it already used on me I got a lot of dicker a lot of. On this day in nineteen, eighty, six great American singer Kate. Smith passed away at the age of seventy, eight best known for this patriotic number. Depends on the in the NHL There is a professional hockey team who uses that Song Sung by Kate Smith. As their good luck, song is sung before every home game. Do you have any idea what major metropolitan city may be? may be the home of that team has made him lucky lately. It want him to Stanley Cups in the seventies seventies. That's all I got to say for that right. Philadelphia. Liars Lucky Song Bear God bless America Prank Addicted Mascot. Leave greedy out of this. In one thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, nine John Matuzek passed away the twos American football defensive end with the Oakland raiders famously and then also an actor. He was in north. Dallas forty was great in that he was in caveman with Ringo. Starr had mentioned. How got that film is most famously. He played sloth in the movie the. Goonies was see law. He was the embodiment of sloth. Yeah, pass way the age of thirty eight from an overdose. Darva set and coq AU jus my favorite. Condo to greg cocktail. Is it no? Two thousand five speaking of sad deaths, Carl. Miller passed away. He was the American bassist for the band. Soul asylum died sadly cancer at the age of forty, two and Joan. Lon. That tune two thousand twelve Rodney, King the African American motors that was beaten by La cops causing. So much uproar about. Black rights here in the city of Los Angeles, and then of course when those cops were acquitted riots that followed them. He died on this day in two, thousand, twelve, an accidental drowning at the age of forty, seven, accidental in quotes. And in two thousand Nineteen Gloria Vanderbilt the American fashion, designer, artists and heiress. She died at the age of ninety, five, famous of course for inventing the designer Jean. The. Vanderbilt jeans was her big deal, also the mother of Anderson Cooper by the well. That's right. Yeah, all right at this point. What we'd like to do is find a food that's related to someone who passed away on this day and then run it past. Eh Pence to see if it's something that we can talk him into eating. No now to see something we can offer up to him. Eaten save it something he would like to have or perhaps stick up his ass or pull out of Zastava. Today is no different on this day. In sixteen thirty one Mumtaz, Mahal, sixteen, thirty one Taj Mahal. The empress consort of Mughal Emperor Shah Jehan. Passed away during childbirth at the age of thirty eight. She was giving birth to her fourteenth child. Oh, As resolved as a result, the emperor built the Taj Mahal. You know the time all right. One of the most famous buildings in all of India, it was actually a mausoleum for her and the symbol of his undying love for Mumtaz Mahal now. Here's the thing. She was also a big deal in the Shah's army. Because he was a very generous person. And he took the responsibility of his army very seriously, and he wanted to make sure that they had an excellent diet, so she came up with a meal. That is now famous in India called the Burr Yanni. She invented it. It is a dish, whereas a number of different prepared layers are all cooked separately and then put together. Here's the layer dishes It was cooked in clarified butter with the spices of nutmeg and pepper and cloves and cardamom men. Bay leaves. Coriander Mint leaves Ginger Onions Tomatoes Green Chilis yogurt and garlic mostly goat. And then it was layered with Rice into a great nutritional dish for the armies, and that's what fed those armies. All those years was the dish that she invented burr. Yanni is the name of it is. That's something that pence would like to have. Let's find out by pulling the handle of the patented Eddie. Pens Jackpot slot machine. If it's a jackpot, he's going to eat it. However, if those rules mismatched well, you know. One behind to Behani, I can't get over. The. I'm not a ginger. I don't like Ginger I think the ginger and it was. That kind all the other yogurt I don't need Yoga with me. I don't WANNA eat meat in a lot of Indian dishes have yoga. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Indian. You're Indian food now. Sin Ober Yanni FELBER Yanni demand. You would not have Jaren Yogurt. Well in the arms seems like you just go through the frigerator. You're like okay. What can I just throw into a bowl? That's my food. Want that. Too much different things. The goat doesn't throw you at all Go Right. Under the goat would for me I mean meet didn't seem hot on donkey. Maybe goat wouldn't wouldn't. They wouldn't be my first five choices. I mean rattlesnake. That's true. If you offered up go, would you try it? I'd probably try it. I would probably try to get all I. Don't think I'd order it. If, someone's like put on a playlist here. Try this. Try It. You ever see when they serve up the goat-head. Now there's some there's some culture I forget what it is, but the they Maybe it's a sheep head, and ahead eight heads on an you gotta Eat They Cook it, and then just put on the table, and then you gotTa. Pick your pick of the face off of it and eat it. The Fuck is wrong with people know the only way you eat meat is you have to completely take the face off? No, literally the face I know. The face eyeballs and shit everything. Oh, come on! They're on the table that that's sadistic. Cheaper or goat, it doesn't matter what it is fate. You don't eat face an interesting cultural phenomenon on Bass, salty face. That's that's that's who eats face. Normal, people don't eat face. I think I would have a hard time now. Eating Fe, yeah, I just pick an ad like Joe I. got a piece of cheek you want to. pull the cheek some lip. They say it's very. Here's your nose. During a tender these same. That's insane. Look at that and find that's insane. Find out where where people leap fill only face pretty pretty. Beat on the face there is there is, but it's not eating meat cheek, no cosmetic. Cosmetic meat. That's window-dressing meet. That's not edible meat. Can you eat a eat a hip? Very Fair in our shoulder. Some. With people's from Eddie Fence, man or notes for today's hello death. Now. Up. Just think. We're GONNA making me ill. Nobody's eating. Like a pig hip pig buffet. Eat the vibe by HIP. The same a got the Shank, but it's not a the but. Whatever and hit much but much meat on the head. You know more than you would have cheek. Or Chin. Chin meet actually made me smart. All right now, take a look at all the entertainment news. A segment called. What's it called show Biz beach. That's it. Man! Hey, you know here in California. The gyms are back open again, are they? Yes, I didn't know that you didn't know that. The bars restaurants because we went to identify the gyms gyms are now open in California apparently is just whatever now just all hell's breaking news. Everything's Open I saw a story. This is not the story I'm going to talk about here. But I saw a story where there's a a gym. I believe it's in Santa Monica that has created. The capsules I saw the picture yes. Yes. WORKOUT PA and they've they've built a frame. And then they've hung shower curtains to the frame to keep you and your germs inside your pot, and you can only lift the weights inside that. Todd. Go anywhere else but I'm thinking who's going in the pod after the last. To disinfect the pod somehow I suppose but. Don't you have to tear down those Kurt? You with a blue one. Otherwise you're walking into a pod full of Kovic. Yes, literally like a Petri dish and you're going in there to do some preacher curl. It seems worse than just being in an open. It's what I was thinking. It's an incubator for death. So I don't know about going back to the Jim and neither does this gentleman gyms? On Tuesday morning Eddie Pants down there. Gold's invented. Who Do you think was the first guy at the door oh schwarzenegger. Every. When it's opening I take my bicycle I. Ride on their from. You know where I live and then go gulls 'cause. I trained for all these years. Wow, so he shows up a gold's gym in Venice. And, he gets ready to go in there, and then he gets in, and he's informed by the people at the front desk that yes, you have to wear a mask when you enter the building. But you don't have to wear masks while you're working out. And Schwarzenegger said that's ridiculous. People are moaning and grunting and breathing out heavy when they're lifting the same way, and then you're grabbing the weights from those people after done. If someone doesn't get over there real quick with with. What's happened, it seems important to wear it while you're working out then walking into the building. That's what Arnold Schwarzenegger said, so he turned around and left it for him, and he said he's not going to He's not going to frequent Gold's gym until they get a better set of policies in place for him now, apparently, the worst part is that's California State Law that you do have to wear a mask entering the building, but you don't have to wear it while you're working out for these gyms and that seems. Insane to me now. I can imagine it would be difficult and cumbersome to work out while you have a I. It would be awful. It would probably be a chore, but at the same, time. To Be Open Your breathing I mean that's when you're spitting and breathing. Hager says is not I'm not going to work out if he's giving up workout. Yeah, you know. It's a high risk age to seventy. He doesn't need to be there and he's got a giant. Jim So I don't know why even goes to Goto up. Any I guess so. Yeah, but he's now forget it I won't be back. I walked out that building. Hey my buddy Jimmy Kimmel's in the news. He is set to return as host of the EMMYS ON ABC now. No one really knows what that means not even Jimmy. Here's his statement. I don't know where we will do this or how we will do this or even why we are doing this, but we are doing it and I am hosting it instead about the EMMYS I. They're saying it's probably going to be a virtual emmys. Really. Yes, they're going to have to do some sort of virtual. What does they usually take place February no, these are the earlier than that are going to be in September. Okay? Yeah, all right twenty, said seventy seventy-second Primetime. emmys are now scheduled to take place Sunday September twentieth. The Oscars announced. They're pushing it back to April of Nick. Twenty one eleven I'm going to bother. Apparently, emmys are so important. We gotta go forward. I we'll see. In other COMECON canceled. This is just coming on the heels of the star. Wars celebration, as we talked about yesterday, being canceled Seattle's Emerald City, comic con has been canceled. That's a real big. They were trying to hold off and see if they could push it back. They were scheduling it for March twelfth through the fifteenth, and then they rescheduled it for August twenty first through the twenty third, and now they're just going to cancel it outright because they simply don't WanNa. Take the chances with exhibitors guest, coming down with Seattle was one of the bigger epicenters of the outbreak that has plays a big role in their decision. And, while we're talking about you, know comic con. The Big San, Diego's announced. They're doing an online comedy. I'm trying to replicate that experience to the best of their ability while making virtual, and they are saying we're holding off on announcing. Who's going to be on hand to do the panels and the celebrity guests and things like that and I. Don't on me at the time, and I should have said something because I would seem like a genius now. But I was thinking. If, it's virtual. You really don't. You're not obligated to participate in. San Diego Comic con I mean people used to send their stars and right product and stuff down there because of the mass of humanity of buzz that was created, but in a world where every company has its own streaming service. Why couldn't you do your own online comecon and that's what DC is just announced. Really they're doing their own virtual comecon called DC fan dome. And it's going to begin on August twenty second at ten am, and will be accessible around the world for twenty four hours to l. the DC fans at DC Fan Dome Dot Com. So, they can just promote all the DC stuff right and they don't have to participate in. San Diego Comic. Con Version and compete for audience with Marble Stanford Right. It also is going to be on hand, so I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe if Disney announces that marbles going to have their own I would imagine I mean I know last year COMECON. There wasn't a lot of star. Wars rise skywalker stuff because Disney was holding all that for their D twenty three expo. They do like a month later. Yeah, the DC fan dome is going to have panels and presentations by cast and creators of DC based films and TV series. They've announced including wonder. Woman Nineteen eighty-four. Aquaman to the Batman that woman black Adam Black Lightning you name it all the TV shows over there on the CW as well so if you're a DC fantasy Fan Dome Dot Com August twenty second. That's the place to hang out I. Wonder if that how that affects comecon going forth, these are like the beginnings of the cracks in the COMECON of we'll see. You can't physically do a DC common. You could right, but you wouldn't be able to generate the the amount of. People or excite or excite the history of that city right events. Yeah, but in the virtual world. There's no reason to create anything you want, right. That's true, so we'll wait and see. And speaking of creating anything you want to promote yourself. NBC has announced a brand new hour long episode of Thirty Rock. They're bringing the cast of thirty Rock bacteria-laden. Yes, but listen to what they're doing. They're tying in with what is known as the up fronts the our television, those who don't know this is where the networks trot out there new shows for the fall season, and they try to garner certain amount. Amount of interest or publicity for them by putting them in front of TV critics, and like a preview of the upcoming, see advertisers things like that they're doing virtual upfront presentation, featuring the cast of thirty rock. which if you remember correctly worked at NBC, so it's GonNa. Be the entire cast in a virtual episode, an hourlong virtual episode, but they're going to be talking about the upcoming shows on NBC that Fall So the cast of thirty rock will be selling the new NBC product for not only advertising critics way it used to be, but this is GonNa, be on NBC an hour long episode commercial free that you can watch and see all your favorite characters from thirty rock working together an up front before they have usually the host of someone who's part of one of the show's coming up like they sort of. Do they host it and they usually it's the late night host. Something like that. Kimball do the ABC Franzen found would do NBC and things like that, but it's this is a Q. and A. and they try them out and they do. You know press releases and things like that, but this is going to be an actual episode third rather on. They're working the episodes of the actual television programs. For people to watch, so we'll wait and see. All right today celebrity birthdays, all these stars born on June seventeenth singer Barry manilow celebrates his seventy seventh birthday today. Home No idea how that song became a hit I really, even then I didn't understand. Comedian, Joe Piscopo is sixty nine years old today. Actor Mark Linn. Strangers Sixty six director Bobby Farrelly of the writing directing farrelly brothers. He's sixty two today Thomas Haden church from sideways, and Wings Is Sixty Greg canir formerly of the soup. Remember when you I. Loved the soup when he was, he was great. He blew up What was the movie did with Nicholson and Helen Hulls as good as it gets. Fifty seven years old today, singer, Kevin Thornton band color. Bad is fifty one. Making love until we drown. Sound like a good plan. It doesn't get out of the pool. Jason Patric the actors fifty four will forte from Saturday. Night. Live is fifty years old. K J APPA from Riverdale is twenty three speaking of CW. Programs Arthur Darvelle from DC'S LEGENDS OF TOMORROW IS Thirty Eight. He of course was also a big part of Doctor. Who over there on the BBC and speaking of Doctor Who. The doctor herself Jodie whittaker celebrates our thirty eighth birthday today I love her on that show. That's it for today. Celebrity birthdays I'm Ralph. Garman I walk the show beat. And speaking of British people. We Love Steve Ashton our power from across the upon here with more entertainment news. It's time for the UK update Oh Steve. A Ralph, you. The money makes Lebron James. Look like Kevin James. We done that one before. Let's really. Familiar. Believe so I think that's a Frenchie yeah. Coke Hey as Sheeran's in the news. Of course, what's up? An artwork of Sheridan painted by British comedian, no fielding the salt, familiar thousand pounds into virtual art exhibition, and now the mighty Bouche starts you get that by the way overnight similar love the mighty Bouche Yeah. So Great. It's like a bizarre extended Monty Python. Sketch Very British very funny anyway. No fielding from the show has recently been doing some fucking baking competition show as also painted a number of poultry traits of famous people for they sought cheek gallery as they rag the guest status for the for the month I'm sure if our fucking lucrative gig by the way. And he's painted pitches of Sheeran Michael Jackson and the sex pistols now the paintings have been on sale for nine hundred and twelve pounds each with Aaron. It depicted as a yellow and orange blob with black dots for is. So he's going for a very realistic interpretation. Obviously stop of the singer now. The Gallery said that no buildings all works bridge seamlessly the imagined words and counts culture references that we've been led to see through a cut of the IT Bush drawing on surrealism Dada. A NEO expressionism knows body of work. Treat us to feast of Color and a trip three the triangle window into his soul, which is perhaps the most pretentious thing I've heard. In nine years. Now at thousand pounds poll traits have Shaven Ralph. Posit the notion that you can do your own home during lockdown by simply urinating through a hand fan onto any surface. Prince Harry's in the news all right? What's up with the royals so as Prince Harry and Meghan Meghan markle which I've taken, see thinking about every time i. see her name in in on the on the website. The I always go Meghan markle. From now on hopefully. Pronounced Yeah Meghan markle living in L., A. now. I'm sure you must have seen him out at about. When you were at that ball with Edwin and Tracy of the of the day gay, they were in the parking lot smoking a joint. By the way I cannot think of anywhere less appropriate to go with Edwin. I know well Tracy. His wife wanted to go. You know she likes to bend the Elbow. while. I was GONNA. Say I mean you've been going to somewhere with a jungle gym and just like run around for twenty minutes on a leash. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle at moved to Los Angeles in March before Karoon, virus and now have. I'm going to take a polls before a site this, but now apparently. Have Liza, Minelli, helping them easing to California life regime. Presumably, that means psyching Mitch. Prescription drugs like that. EMINEM's and marine increasingly deteriorating list of male suits. Apparently settling into La life has been. He's been basement bumpy Brian for hurry. Ralph apparently blessing. Oh, no, yeah! He's most likely had to cut back on the number of off the employees. The British taxpayer pays full. Now Liza apparently previously discussed her friendship with Diana in Hollow magazine, and I say that because he's got a big exclamation. Point at the end is. saying that I was looking and I'm not going to do the voice. Because I'm not enough to drink, but. She said I was looking to count princess. Diana as a friend I was first introduced to her. When she came backstage Afrikaans I did in London than we bump into each other at premieres or events wet. She'd be the guest of honor. We'd fold into compensation that we'd meet. My, instinct was to protect her. Well if your instinct was protector Leisa, he didn't do a very fucking good job itchy because she was merged by. M I six. Go Now Ralph on Mike. My own celebrity paintings Oh. Yeah. Yeah, in a bit to sell them full. You know I'm not okay. For Thousand Pounds Go maybe five hundred. You know I've got I've got three woods full. You Ralph yes Claughton a slotted serving spoon on the show. You can guess the rest again. I'm going to be busy. I gotta go. Steve will be back with us on Friday. Not only for another UK update, but also for the video volts segment as well and because today is Wednesday no time. It is one hit wonders. On. One hit wonders to very common tale all right. This one comes to us from Brian from Georgia. He wrote me an email very appropriate that Brian is from Georgia, and you'll find out why, in just a minute back in nineteen eighty gem named Dan. Baird started a band with his pals there in Atlanta Georgia. They started playing local bars, and then they kind of broke up. The KINDA SPLIT UP. Things weren't going well. They recorded a demo, but the band broke up soon after that in Nineteen eighty-four, however, their English manager Kevin Jennings took the demo to a small record label in the UK and they. An EP of their music and it really took off, so they regrouped here in the United States and started getting a lot of attention from record labels here in the states, and in nineteen, eighty six, the band was signed by Elektra records, and they recorded their debut full length album there in Atlanta their home city, and it was a huge hit featuring a huge single. The band called themselves the Georgia satellites and And the first album was their most successful track. Keep your hands to yourself. Song reached number two on the billboard. Hot, one hundred, the only one that was beating it was Jon Bon Jovi's living on a prayer and went into heavy rotation on MTV. It was a smash hit that you could not avoid and I love the hell out of this song here are the Georgia satellites with? Keep your hands to yourself. Changing back gone. Telephone. Gave you. Lease these. Same? Katie Nolan's and keep your hey deals sale. and. The wait assets. Free Mill. They've Dunklin. No lands and keep your hands. Reached number two on the billboard charts. That song was everywhere back in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty six. I was surprised I thought they had more hits than that, but they never had another top four. Yeah, that's a lot of people think they did because they were on the soundtrack of a wildly popular movie in Nineteen, Eighty Eight. The movie was cocktail featuring Bro. I'm crews playing. Great Sense. And they were asked to record a song for that soundtrack was a cover of a song from nineteen, sixty four by the band, the swinging blue jeans. Here's a little bit of the other sort of hit. They had this called hippy hippy shake. Lot of people think that was a hit. Because a lot of people saw the movie, they remember the song. was released as a single only reached number forty five. That's shocking. Yeah, really didn't do well for them. At all they released a couple of additional albums. Nothing ever took off for them. Dan Beard, the lead singer of that band, eventually left in nineteen, ninety to pursue a solo career, but they have had a bunch of different LINEUPS, but the Georgia satellites are still together, and still out there performing and I'm betting. They performed those two songs, and then a lot of people go into the lobby to get a lot of county fairs. That's what I'm guessing. One hit wonder. One hit wonders. It's a very common tale, all righty, boys and girls. That's it for today show. Thank you so much for joining us. Come on back tomorrow as you know. Thursdays Mean Ralph Sex University here on the Ralph report. As I mentioned, we'll be talking about sex while asleep sex, Neha. Wonder if I've ever had sex while I, sleep the same as a wet dream. Of Not really really that's sort of a an involuntary emission, having an orgasm that's triggered by your brain, but these are people who actually have sex. And they don't remember it because they are asleep at the Tom. Be Better. If you're fucking Kermit, you might WanNa. Not Remember that. If you can sleep, walk, you can sleep faulk wine right? Yeah, sleep, eat. Sleep walks fucked. Sleep fucking on tomorrow's show. You're not gonNA WANNA miss, it, plus all the usual nonsense as well. Come on back once you boys and girls an or do that. You gotta stay healthy, so please stay at home to wash your hands. Make sure you they. 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120 Dharma, Karma, Samsara: An Intro to Hinduism
"Hello and welcome to misinformation a trivia via podcasts for ladies and gents Love Cool Trivia and sticking it to anoint teams pop quiz. Where your host? I'm Lauren and I'm Julia. Hey Joel I lord it's it's been it's been a real fall. Yeah but we had three weeks fall. Now it's winter winter time and I was away for most of Y'all missed fall. I did Miss Fall. I spent my fall in Europe. I've heard of it Europe. It's swear we came from apparently white people. Yeah I went Stephen. I finally did our honeymoon and we went to Amsterdam which is very beautiful. And I spent six hours in the Reich Museum. It was perfect and we went to Brussels which is a grittier city. I would say and that was great and then we went to London to Edinburgh and it was awesome and we are back back in the good old. US of and you didn't even bring accent with you. I did not bring an accent although I was in line to go on Disney like ride in Edinburgh for like The whiskey experience and you get put into these seats. What's that look like whiskey barrels and you sit in them and then you take this tiny ride and a ghost tells you all about the history of whiskey making yeah okay? It was actually magnificent so we were standing in line and the woman was asking us where we're from waiting for the next barrel to come up and I said Oh we're from New York and she said originally and I said Yeah. I'm sorry. I thought you were Scottish for a second. I thought I heard an accent. Lucky you and I was like I think I'm just picking it up and I said actually no we're from the we Scotland part of New York and she thought that was funny. And then we got in the barrel and then the goes told us about whisky so that is my only experience with possibly being able to pass as a Scott unless it was all a dream was all a dream go back to Edinburgh there. There has been tasting experience here for forty five with all drinking ghost whiskey. You dead whiskey anyway so yes I glad to be back. It was fun. Yeah I highly recommend. It's fairly the affordable actually to go over to Europe so lauren condones visiting Europe. Yes chance we can hang on this podcast I I know it's a bold stance I know. It could cause some controversy but I don't care you go. Oh well today. We're not going to Europe in this. PODCAST we're going to another part of the world so when we did back in the month of May when we did mythology may us with awe back clipping all right there we talked about the different The different theologies and the different mythologies that we wanted to talk about and and We skipped a big one and I was like I'll just do it later and now's the time. Oh okay. I'm excited today's episode. Is Dharma Karma Armagh and Sarah an intro to Hinduism so right off the Bat A source that was very helpful for me the website for the book. Hinduism for dummies Shirvan so that was very helpful for me. It getting all sorts of details about this so wait not the book no not. It wasn't for the website the website of the book. The summaries are are online okay. Great good that's a great resource because if you can't get to say about Martensson bubble to pick one up. The website is a great. Who knows if into who isn't for dummies is still even in Britain? That's true who can know. It used to be a big book series a now who knows yep so. Hinduism has no single angles systematic approach to teaching its value system a followers of Hinduism don't have a simple set of rules to follow like the ten commandments of the Torah. Hinduism is the world's third largest just religion and its followers known as Hindus number about one point one five billion war fifteen percent of the world's population. Oh my gosh so. It's the most widely highly professed faith in India in Nepal. It's also predominant in Indonesia to so Local regional cast and community driven practices influence the interpretation and practice of beliefs throughout throughout the Hindu world. Hindus choose to be polytheistic. That's belief in many gods monotheistic belief in one God Pam theistic which is reality is identical cynical with divinity Then theistic which is the belief that the divine pervades penetrates. Every part of the universe in extends beyond space and time I love that he no theistic which is the worship of a single God while not denying the existence or possible existence of other deities so so really just covering all. You can do whatever you want. You could also be agnostic. You could be an atheist you can also be a humanist so ideas about all the major issues of faith and lifestyle include Lewd vegetarianism nonviolence belief in rebirth and more those are all up for debate. So there's no there's no book like you're just you know. Oh you're not memorizing things like you're in catechism class or anything it's just right. Hinduism has its openness open for interpretation. Yeah for everybody ready okay. I'm into it. So since it's an amalgamation of different traditions and philosophies a common thread among all these variations the belief in one supreme being Brahmin and adherence to the Pooh Roo Sharda the four proper goals or aims of human life. So the poor Schritar's are the inherent values of the universe. In the blueprint for human fulfillment filming I found a good article on the choper center. Website called Peru Sharp. The four aims of human life by Roger. Gabriel Rodham. At so I up is Dharma Dharma is righteousness so no single. English word adequately covers its meaning but Dharma can be described as right conduct righteousness moral law in duty so on an individual level. You can think of Dharma as your true purpose in life or the ethical basis on which you live your life okay. Next is Artha. That's economic values that that incorporates wealth career activity to make a living financial security and economic prosperity ultimately Artha is the pursuit of activities and means necessary for a joyous and pleasure. We'll life okay. That might be a little different than some other religions that we have. Yeah we've learned about it but basically like you need to earn money so that you can enjoy your life. Yes yeah perfect Then we have Comma K Emma. That's pleasure so that's Desire passions emotions pleasures of the senses senses and the aesthetic enjoyment of life. So the right kinds of pleasure lead you toward your Dharma and help you fulfill it with passion Many Westerners were probably introduced to the term comma When the ancient Indian texts the Kama Sutra became popular generally misinterpreted as a sex manual? It's actually a guide to virtuous and Gracious Living Discusses The nature of love family life and other aspects pertaining to pleasure oriented faculties of human life. So really that book depicts Karma as an essential enjoyable aspect of human existence. Not just leave it to us to be like ooh this is good the and then the fourth one is muck shot. Okay S. H. A.. That's liberation. So that's the souls released from the cycle of Death Th- and Rebirth which is called some Sarah. It occurs when the soul unites with Brahman by realizing its true nature so several paths can lead to this realization in unity. The Path half of duty the path of knowledge and the path of devotion which is unconditional surrender so Karma our actions accumulated in previous lives. Okay so a Hindu believes leaves. The individual soul also also called an Ottoman is neither created nor destroyed. It has been it is and it will be so actions of the soul while residing residing in a body require that it reap the consequences of those actions in the next life as the same soul and in different body so the process of movement of the soul from one body to another is known as trans-migration and the kind of body soul inhabits next is determined by Karma okay. So so Karma you're accumulating. Your soul is accumulating humilating all of these things that you've done throughout your life what you really want to do. Is Marsha the liberation. The souls released from the cycle of death and rebirth. So that you can Yeah so that you can find everlasting happiness. So so the idea. Is You know you were born a flea. And if you're like a really good flea you got to be like a beetle. Yeah and then and then you get to move up and up as long as you accumulate. Good this good Karma bread and the the the goal ultimately is to break free from that cycle and ascend to perfect happiness. Love exactly so when people kind of used the term Karma Karma is a bitch. Yeah like they're not really using it the right way or you're like I hope this comes back to bite them. Maybe it won't in this life but maybe like if there are bad enough person. Maybe they'll show up like a sewer rat next time I don't know so it's kind of like we kind of misuse. The term. Yeah so we've kind of flattened the idea of Karma into just kind of like come up and when in fact it's much more subtle subtle and multifaceted than that exactly okay. Great doing great so Texts there are two major epics of ancient India so these epochs for written in Sanskrit and in their essence described the power of the Hindu. Gods in poetic verse so I is the Ramayana. It's the narration of the story of Rama the legendary Prince of Casale Kingdom. This story chronicles the life of Rama from his birth in the Kingdom of Iota to his decisive victory over his evil Nemesis Rovana so the epoch speaks literal lawyers on the virtue of True Brotherhood love and the nature of sacrifice. One has to make to defeat. Evil it's one of the largest ancient epics enrolled literature consisting of nearly twenty four thousand thousand verses divided into seven condos in about five hundred chapters the text survives in several thousand partial incomplete manuscripts the oldest of which is a Palm Leaf manuscript crowning Paul which dates to the eleventh century CE. The rummy honor presents the teachings of ancient Hindu sages in narrative allegory interspersing philosophical and ethical elements. Yeah then you have the Mahabharata so that is known as the longest epic ever written. It is more than two hundred thousand verses and it gives an in-depth insight into the rise of Hinduism between four hundred and two hundred eighty so at about one point. Eight million words in total the mob. Harada China is roughly ten times the length of the Iliad and the Odyssey combined or about four times the length of the Ramayana which was already one of the longest migration so apart from its narration of the fight between the Karavas and the pajamas. It also details the script of the bug of Akita. Oh Yeah I'm so. From beginning to end it describes grabs the great paddle that pits brother against brother and in time the bag of Akita went on to become the epitome of Hinduism's sacred scripture so often referred to as the Gita the bulk Makita is a seven hundred verstandig scripture. Which is chapters twenty three to forty of the sixth book of the Mahabharata? Okay so the back of Anita presents a synthesis of Hindu the new ideas about Dharma devotion and the yoga ideals of mlk Shah the techs cover the path of knowledge spirituality Karma and also the practice of yoga the GITA call for selfless action inspired many leaders of Indian independence movement including Mahatma Gandhi. Who referred to it as his spiritual dictionary? Okay so the bag of Akita Okita is part of the Mahabharata. Okay so it's a smaller part of a larger text but it specifies a lot of real good core it's it's is dense. Yeah Okay for sure And then also text is. We have the Veta- so those represent a collection of hymns and religious texts that were formulated between fifteen hundred. And One thousand I was NBC. So these sacred verses were written invading Skins Grit in the industry where it is believed that Hinduism originated. They're seen as the ultimate authority containing revelations received by ancient agent saints and Sages Hindus. Believe that the Betas are without beginning and without end when everything else in the universe is destroyed at the Nova certain cycle of time the Betas will remain so there are also called Shruti. What is heard literature distinguishing them from other religious texts which are called smirke? What is remembered? Okay the vagus for Orthodox Indian theologians are considered revelation seen by ancient sages after intense meditation and texts that have been more carefully preserved since ancient times. Well so the Apollo shots shots are part of the Betas They played an important role in the development of spiritual ideas in ancient India making a transition from vedic rituals to new ideas and institutions. So Oh of all the VEDIC literature. The shots are widely known and they're central ideas are the spiritual core of Hindus. Okay so there's like a bunch of ancient in texts that you hear about it but some of them are part of another one. Yes so the upon shots are part of the Betas. Okay so moving along. I'm to the caste system in India. Yes so also. Societies have some sort of social class system in which there people are classified based on education culture and income levels in ancient in India. Such a system was inspired by new scriptures and implemented as a way to create a society in which all essential functions were addressed. All people assumed vital roles based on their abilities centuries later this classification was named the caste system. CAS T while in practice. It became seriously flawed. But it's concept based on an ideal division so I you have the Brahmin b. r. a. h. m. i. n. they are the priestly and intellectual class. They have qualities of serenity self restraint purity forgiveness knowledge knowledge realization belief in God so they're associated job description includes serving as a gatekeeper of knowledge of Brahman Providing intellectual advice is to governing bodies offering priestly services and religious leadership and grappling with fundamental questions of life so brahman or the priestly intellectual class. Next you have the shot. Tria that's K.. A. S. H. A. T. R. Y.. Shot there the warrior class. They have physical prowess courage. Um firmness dexterity. Generosity and loneliness so the associated functions include defending the country from external aggression or internal strife specializing in the science silence of arms ammunition strategies tactics of warfare. So the Shatri are the the warriors the protector of the nights. Then there are the vice. Ya V. A. I. S. H. Y. A. The vice versa. They're the trade and commerce class. they specialize in trade and commerce to procure goods and services so that society as a whole can lead a life of plenty. Modern VCR are primarily traders and entrepreneurs and then you have the shudder I s Hud are there are the agricultural or labor plus us they do manual labor such tilling the land working in the fields raising cattle and crops so in practice this cast came to include. Everyone who doesn't belong to the other three. Okay okay. So kind of all. Except for the untouchables. So the untouchables where people who perform the most menial Labor examples. I found that were tanning leather and sweeping the streets. So those were like those are like the worst. Boris jobs so Hindu mythology states that all living beings pass through a continuous cycle of creation and destruction. which is called the Maha Yuga? This cycle repeats itself over four different epochs or you goes the first of these. Yuga is the Sacha Yuga which which spans a period of one million seven hundred twenty eight thousand years So the Saatchi you said to be the Golden Age of Truth Enlightenment and in this age people I tain an ideal the deal state of mind and their actions were always reasoned in virtuous the sacred texts further state that there was a surplus flow of ideas and thoughts between people so currently we are in the Kelly Yuga which began at midnight on February eighteenth? THIRTY ONE TO BE C. O.. In the prolific Julian calender so only five thousand one hundred twenty years Have passed out of the four hundred thirty two thousand years of the current Kali Yuga so we have another four hundred twenty six thousand eight hundred eighty years to go before you have to worry about what you we're in next okay. Well wow time so. In a person dies. Most Hindus choose to dispose of their body through cremation. So that's usually usually within a day of the death. In Hinduism death only applies to the physical body. There's no death of the Soul Hindus. Don't believe in the resurrection of the material body. But they believe upon breath the soul which truly represented the person has departed or detached so the body has no significance and therefore no attempt is made to preserve it while some news do bury their dead. The most common practice is to cremate. The body collect the ashes and on the fourth day dispersed the ashes in a sacred body of water or other places of importance to this cease person so according to the bag of Gita the soul is a spirit that a sword cannot pierce. The fire cannot burn. The water cannot melt in the air cannot dry. This'll is free unbounded holy pure and perfect so again they had news goal is to avoid. Rebirth or reincarnation so that the individual soul merges with the supreme soul and achieves Marsha Liberation Hindus worship multiple deities these and these gods and goddesses usually belong to a certain pantheon of of divinities each of these gods goddesses symbolizes a certain aspect of life. Davida is one of the terms terms for a deity in Hinduism. I'm David Di. It's masculine term and the feminine equivalent is Debbie D. E. V.. I in the earliest vedic literature. Starting around fifteen hundred. ABC All supernatural. Beatings are called a Sierras. And by the late vedic period about five hundred BC benevolent supernatural beings referred to as data assuras. So in post vedic texts such as the piranhas or Some other stories in Hinduism. The Davis represent the good in the series. The bad so in most things that you'll read about Davis's his era the gods they're good and assures like the evil spirits So some early Veda Hindu gods and goddesses so these might not necessarily be the ones that we're all familiar earlier with this point. But if you if you remember when we covered like Greek and Roman mythology you had the the ones that were there before the Titan. Yeah exactly so. It's kind of like the early ones. So Indra is King of the Davis he's often perceived as Indian counterpart to European. DVD's like Zeus is an open. Okay Indra is venerated. As the King of the Davis who symbolized the aspects of thunder storms rains and flow of rivers by virtue of his stature actor among the early Hindu Gods Indra who is mounted on an imposing white elephant named era vodka and is armed with a spender boat named Nevada also commanded the heavenly heavenly Davis against their adversaries who were the malevolent demonic entities known as the eras so Indra wields a thunderbolt in his protector and provider of rain. Okay next is Agni the fire God. He's a major deity of fire. Among the ancient Hindu gods and goddesses regarded as divine medium. That accepts the sacrifices made during being yajah's to the Hindu gods so he accepts the sacrifices the fire Syria is the Sun God. He's the major solar deity among the gods. He's he's revered as the sustainable of life in the literature in his Golden Warrior who arrives on a chariot pulled by seven white horses. Everybody loves getting it and pulled around in this realm white animals. It's amazing Varuna is the god of sky and oceans often depicted with his vehicle the Macara which is a hybrid birdseye creature often found in other ancient motifs. So beyond the scope of skies an ocean the rig Veda part of the Betas mentions. How Verona is the guardian of the moral all law encompassing both justice and truth? He serves his dual role as the ruthless punisher of sinners and the Compassionate forgiving of the remorseful. And then there's Yama the god of the underworld aerobic death He's venerated as the patron God of the ancestors in the divine judge of the departed souls. So Yama can also decide to condemn soul which according to the mythical narrative is then banished down to the twenty one levels of hell the lower the strata the worst defeat as for his depiction Yama is often portrayed with his dark green or dark blue skin carrying Arado made from a fragment of Syria and riding atop a buffalo. Oh Wow okay. So that's kind of like the early ones are so during the vedic period which ran until about five hundred BC e India saw the emergence of hierarchy of social classes that would remain influential in vedic religion evolved and impacted acted Buddhism jainism and Hinduism as well. So this release us to the second half of the first millennium BC with the concept of the Tri Murky Trinity so but try mercy is the three deities that forms the core of the Hindu Pantheon starting in the post waiting period to the present day. I you have Brahma the creator. Brahma is the creator of the Cosmos and order. Her BRAHMA has four heads. which is the completeness of his knowledge and it is believed that from these heads came the four vitas some also believe that the caste system came from different parts of umbrellas body as well has four arms hands that represented an aspect of the human personality? MIND INTELLECT EGO consciousness. He's not really worshiped. Like the other two to here in the trinity that I'll talk about bras role as the Creator is over now and it is left to the others to preserve and to continue their path in her nation. That's so so you're obviously creator. But like he's learned. Yeah yeah he did it. That's amazing. Yeah but actually have Vishnu. The preserver Vishnu is associated with the role of maintaining order and harmony of the universe. He's depicted in his characteristic pale. Blue Skin holding a lotus a mace disgust in a conscious in each of his forearms and hands which represent his omnipotence and omnipresence. He's worship in many forms and in several avatars or incarnations. So some of the avatars Vishnu. Rama who is the star of Romania. The Oh sure sell Rama's portrayed as an ideal son brother husband and king in as a strict adherence to Dharma. He's the model of reason and virtue in his often considered to be the ideal man. Dude his compassion courage devotion and adherence to Dharma his bow and Arrow symbolize his readiness to destroy Roy Evil and protect righteousness. He's also portrayed as Krishna the teacher of the bag of odd Gita and as the friend and mentor of Prince Arjuna in Mahabharata so for his devotees. Krishna is a delightful of playful pranks but most of all Lord Krishna's promised to humanity that he will manifest himself in descend to earth whenever Dharma declines minds has sustained Hindu belief in the supreme being thousands of years Vishnu rides on Garuba. Devoted Eagle that accesses vehicle so Vishnu is the preserver. Okay and Trying to maintain order and harmony of the universe. Okay so if we have we had the creator the preserver now. We got the destroyer Charlotte's Shiva Shiva the destroyer associated with the concept of time tasked with destroying the universe in order to prepare for its renewal at the end of each cycle of time. So Shiva's destructive power is regenerative. It's the necessary. Step that makes each renewal possible so depicted as the divine aesthetic with with matted hair an unkempt appearance with a snake coiled around his neck sorry Tara and a hand a trident so shiva prefers his deep meditations atop the remote Kailash Mountain and he also commands the power of fire for destruction in the drum that heralds creation Hindus customarily invoked Shiva before the beginning of any religious or spiritual virtual endeavor. They believe that any bad vibrations in the immediate vicinity of worship are eliminated by the mere utterance of his name Shiva Rides in on Nandi. Sandy the devoted bull who acts his vehicle so Shiva's not necessarily evil like the natural cycle of death and rebirth rate death. Death in itself like destruction in in and of itself is not necessarily like an evil process right. He dealing with the renewal for cycles of time. Exactly just like autumn. Yes winter turn. I know I give the best examples. You now thank you so there are other deities in Hinduism that we should know oh and should be familiar with sure. They include Ganesh who is also sometimes called Ghana potty so Kenosha is the god of intellect an arts also the remover of obstacles polls. He's virtually conspicuous by virtue of his elephant head. Oh yes and the mythical narrative he's the son of Sheva and poverty and as such is usually depicted as a jovial. DD with a pleasant personality and plump physical attributes he's venerated as the patron God of intellect letters arts and sciences who's also responsible for creating the order and classes. This is of men so there are like you know some differing backgrounds on how Kenosha ended up with an elephant head Scher. Choose whatever when you want. But that's that's what you you got to know about okay. So Good Guy Elvin head Sara and check out Kinda the wives of the of the three members of the trinity so Saraswati is the wife if of Brahma. She's the goddess of knowledge so she's a feminine Deity of Wisdom Aren't music knowledge an alphabet She's depicted in a white and rather austere gown bereft of bright colors or ostentatious jewelry and along similar lines the later Indian religious and secular texts mentioned how virtue in its core is an aspect of Saraswati she carries her range of items steeped in symbolism. She has a book a Garland a musical instrument and she's often accompanied by Swann epitomizing. Purity Hindus offer prayer to Saraswati before beginning any intellectual pursuit and Hindu students are encouraged offer prayers to her during their school term and especially before during and after examinations nations. No sure yeah. Luxury is the wife of Vishnu. So she is the goddess of Good Fortune. She's the major Didi of wealth. Fortune and prosperity among all of the Gods and depicted in Indian art as an elegantly dressed prosperity showering golden colored woman with an owl as her vehicle signifying the importance of economic activity in the maintenance of life her ability to move work and prevail and confusing darkness. She has four arms they are symbolic of the four goals of humanity. That are considered good in hinduism she can be seen sitting or standing on a Lotus and typically carrying a lotus or in one or two of her hands So the Lotus curious symbolic meanings in Hinduism and other Indian traditions symbolizing knowledge self realization and Liberation Lakshmi is usually shown wearing a red dress embroidered with golden threads. She's gold and has four Golden d'armes and sometimes has allowed what US praise the goddess of good fortune. So each of these gods and goddesses. It seems are representations of the different aspects of Hinduism like the the best apart like the aspirational tenants of Hinduism. I'm getting you're getting raises. Great also Parvathi is the wife of Shiva. She's The Hindu goddess of fertility. Love beauty marriage children in devotion as well as design strength and power. She is the mother of Natia She's usually early. Representatives Fair beautiful and benevolent. Typically wearing a red dress often sorry and she might have headband. As well when she is depicted alongside Shiva. She generally appears with two arms. But when she's alone she might have four She is shown holding a Trident Mirror. A bell. Dish sugarcane stock or flowers such as a lotus then we have collie oh that's fine instead of destruction I'm into it. She's often portrayed as one of the incarnations of providers skin which the goddess sheds way So the rampage of Collie was and is a popular motif in a newer ship. And as such violent goddesses often venerated graded by the cremation grounds. Usually associated with battlefields Collie is known for her tongue. Protruding from her mouth. Her garland of skulls in her skirt of bonuses. The this is to symbolize the death of ego and remind worshipers that the human bodies only temporary condition so contrary to what her image may suggest. She's not actually responsible for human mortality. Tally she's just. She's a destruction and again. This is an evil. Yep She's just bad ass and then my favorite one I learned about is Durga. The demon slaying warrior goddess. Oh so she's one of the principal feminine deities among the Hindu Gods Durga literally meaning invincible or unassailable is venerated. As a warrior goddess tasked with vanquishing evil in protecting the scope of peace and prosperity to restore Dharma. She was created for the purpose of battling and defeating eating. Mahi Sharara the evil Buffalo Demon who was emboldened by the Boone. That no man or mail could kill him so it's just like Lord of the rings when he's like a Man Can kill me but I know man exactly so durga shown riding a lion or a tiger attire end address in armor and armed with weapons. It's held in her eight to eighteen hands depending on. WHO's stronger? Okay and she act out of necessity for the love of good for liberation of those who depend on her and a mark of the beginning soul's journey to create a freedom coal to Durga the demons laying your got us so Hindu worship known as Pooja. PJ typically takes place as in a temple or a manager Push is the act of showing reverence to God a spirit or another aspect of the divine through invocations prayer songs and rituals and essential part of Pooja Asia for the Hindu. Devotee is making spiritual connection with the Divine Hindus also worship at home They have a special shrine dedicated to certain Gods and goddesses during Pooja Asia and image or other symbol of the God serves as a mean of gaining access to the divine saw. This icon is not the deity itself. Rather it is believed to be filled with the deed is cosmic energy. It's a focal point for honoring and communicating with the God the giving of offerings is an important part of Hindu worship. I'm it's common to present gifts. Such as flowers oils to a god or goddess and additionally many Hindus take pilgrimages to temples and other sacred sites in India and I just wanted to cover a couple more important Hindu festivals please so the festivals levels are ceremonies that we've individual and social life to Dharma. Hinduism has many festivals throughout the year where the dates are set by the Luna Solar Calendar. Many coinciding with either the full moon or the new moon moon often with seasonal changes. So I is wholly H. O. L. I it's celebrated predominantly in India Nepal and is popularly known as the Hindu you festival of spring the festival of colors or the festival of love holy signifies the arrival of spring the end of winter the blossoming of love and for Benny Festive Day to meet others. Play and laugh. Forget and forgive and repair broken relationships it lasts for a night in a day. Starting on the evening of the Purnima the full Moon Day falling in the Vikram somewhat lot calendar in the Hindu calendar month of foul gun which falls around the middle of March in the Gregorian calendar. So on the night before Holi People gather perform religious just rituals in front of a bonfire and pray their internal evil be destroyed The way that whole eka sister of the Demon King Hearing Kaya Sheep Boo was killed in a fire fire so the next morning is celebrated as rung. Wally holy a Free Frost evil of colors will people smear each other with colors and drench each other. Oh so waterguns. The water. Filled balloons are also used to play and color. Each other in anyone and everyone is fair. Game the frolicking fight with colors often occurs in open streets parks outside temples and buildings certain groups carried drums other musical instruments and sing and dance People visit family friends and enemies to throw colored powders on each other laugh and gossip and share Delicacies food and drinks so much about like like are equivalent I guess in the US would be like if people are doing the color. Run like a white shirt and then everybody throws colored powder at. That's what that's what holiest every day. But it's everybody and it seems like real sounds real the great time there's also novel not So that is one of the greatest Hindu festivals. The festival of worship in dance is symbolizes the triumph triumph of good over evil. So now of raw tree takes place at the beginning of October around harvest time in the celebrated for nine days. It's also known as the Durga Pooja. During this period it Durga Lakshmi and Saraswati worshiped three different manifestations of Shock D. or the Cosmic Energy Nava Retrea is celebrated by community's getting together for dances is a nightly fees for women. It's time for shopping for new clothes and new pots. Auspicious time to buy gold or jewelry and gold markets. Open late each night women dress elaborately each today for the Pooja or rituals and nightly dances again. Yeah you're good time and then the one we've probably all heard of at this point Walli so it's widely associated with Lakshmi go to Ali is the Hindu festival of lights symbolizing. The spiritual victory of light over darkness good over evil and knowledge over ignorance. It typically lasts five days in a celebrated during the Hindu lunar solar month Kartika which is between mid October and mid November with lights fireworks and sweets. The festival is time for thoroughly spring cleaning the home. Even the fall Wearing new clothes and most importantly decorating buildings with fancy lights. Oh that's great fun. Yeah we just had Walli. Yeah so that's everything I wanted to cover today. That's wonderful but in talk too fast for everybody but you know well people are going to listen to it at one point three anyway. What I had no idea that people just don't listen at a regular speed? No I know I couldn't even imagine doing it. But you know what life is rich tapestry. Yeah the thing that kills me was that Uh we have never interacted with by a bunch of our Trivia Guy Friends but as soon as somebody who's like I listen to a one point five fast to over over here. I listened to it fast too. So Sean Andrew. You're on blast. Yeah what do we sound Mike. What am I can't even imagine I would? I would rip out my own. No that it was great. I enjoyed it. I learned a lot. I think I knew like two percent of that. So if that was like you get a question about it and you make could while ask guests and you get it wrong and then you forget that you need to learn that and as an art historian I should be more familiar with depictions of Hindu gods and goddesses because because it shows up in Southeast Asian art so yeah Yes sir. Quiz today is called a passage to India. It's a quiz on famous ships and tidbits about India question one the CSS Virginia was the first steam powered ironclad worship dressed in black black black built by the Navy of the confederate states in eighteen. Sixty one however it wasn't totally produced from scratch which United States seem forget. Did the confederacy turn into the CSS Virginia question to. It's no secret. That India just loves cricket a multifaceted Bat and ball sport with multiple formats depending on the standard of play the desired level formality and the time available multiple choice according to the international cricket council the IC of the three forms of cricket which is typically played the fastest a test cricket be one day international or see twenty twenty international question three. The Battle of Trafalgar was a naval engagement fought by the British Royal Navy against the combined French and Spanish fleets during the Napoleonic worse on October. We're twenty first eighteen o five. What was the appropriately named flagship commanded by Horatio Nelson during this battle in which the franco-spanish forces lost twenty two ships ups and the British lost none question? For The statue of Unity depicts Indian statesman and activists Sardar Gulab Bahaji Patel Patel the First Deputy Prime Minister Independent India who united the five hundred fifty two princely states of India to form the Union of India in nineteen forty seven. What blowback Did this statue earn upon its completion in October twenty eighteen question. Five endurance was the three masted Ostad sailing vessel that sailed to the Antarctic on the imperial transient Arctic expedition of nineteen fourteen however disaster struck when the endurance became trapped in pack ice and was slowly holy crushed until it sank in nineteen fifteen who was the ship's primary explorer whose fortunate crew escaped with their lives question. Six one one of the most iconic buildings of India is Taj Mahal that ivory white mausoleum commissioned by the Mughal Emperor Shah Jehan to house the Tomb of his favourite wife. In what century tree was the Taj Mahal completed question seven free industry. The English explorer and pirates sailed the world from fifteen seventy seven to fifteen eighty along the way the ship captured more than six tons of treasure from Spanish ship in Queen Elizabeth Native Drake when he arrived back to England. What is the name of Drake's famous ship of which you can see a full scale replica docked on the South Bank of the Thames in London question eight to many people the key to the vault and the famous backwards episode of Seinfeld unveiled Jerry? Elaine and George head India for the wedding of Bras Wonder Sue Ellen Mickey after Elaine perceives her invite as more of an invitation. What is the title of that episode Question Nine? The White Star Line developed a trio of passenger ships named the Olympic class. Ocean liners during the early twentieth century. All three were designed the largest and most luxurious passenger ships in the world giving White Star advantage in the Trans Atlantic passenger trade to lost earlier in their careers and one was sold for scrap in nineteen thirty. thirty-five named any two of these three massive ships built by Harland and Wolff Shipyard in Belfast Ireland and finally question ten random bore national park in northern India is also a wildlife sanctuary best known for seeing which specific creatures in their natural jungle habitat. Give you about a minute to think. And we'll be back with your our answers are the uh-huh Ah I am. This is not going to be the one that frees me from the curse. I know maybe two or three of these. It's okay okay but no. This is good knowledge. The quiz just as much about knowledge like learning things as the topic is so I gotTa keep that in mind all all right great here we go number one the CSS Virginia was the first steam powered ironclad worship dressed in black black black built by the Navy of the confederate it states in eighteen sixty one however it wasn't totally produced from scratch which you esteem forget to the confederacy turn into the CSS Virginia is it the USS. Mary mack it is the back like that could possibly be so. Virginia was one of the participants in the battle of Hampton roads opposing the unions. USS Monitor in March eighteen sixty two. You've probably heard about the battle of the monitoring of the Mary. Yes absolutely so. The Monitor was the unions chip. And the Merrimack was actually also the union ships that the confederates turned into the CSS for me okay. So so am chiefly significant in naval history as the first battle between ironclad worships so the northern belt Mary mack was a conventional steam. Forget that had been salvaged by the confederates from the Norfolk. Worked Navy Yard and rechristened the Virginia so her upper hall was cut away. An armored with iron so then this two hundred sixty three foot craft resembled a floating barn roof commanded by Commodore Commodore Franklin Buchanan and supported by several other confederate vessels. The Virginia virtually decimated a union fleet of wooden warships off Newport News. Virginia on May ninth eighteen sixty a two following the confederate evacuation of Norfolk Virginia was destroyed by its crew. The Monitor which had sixteen crewmen was lost during a gale off Cape Hatteras. North Carolina in December eighteen eighteen sixty two the wreck of the Monitor was located in nineteen seventy three and in two thousand two marine salvager raised the ship's gun turret and other artifacts from the wreckage. So there's pieces of both of these worships throughout a lot of museums and things like that. The merrimack became the Virginia all right. Mary became the Virginia question to. It's no secret that India just loves cricket a multifaceted Bat and ball sport with multiple formats depending on the standard of play the desired level of malady and the time available according to the International International Cricket Council of the three forms of cricket which is typically played the fastest a test cricket be one day international or see twenty twenty international national. I think I know the answer. Because of midsomer. Murders and Inspector Morris who both did episodes about cricket great so I think it gets test cricket a okay is it right. Answer in see twenty twenty international test cricket is a five day format which innings each a one day international also called an od. I is one inning. Matches fifty overs per side so that takes awhile and twenty twenty international also called. T twenty is twenty overs per side in his usually completed in three hours. Okay so that's what they normally had test cricket and one days okay and then they invented added this thing because they were like well. How do we get other people to watch the game lead in Canada five days at the cricket grounds instead the twenty twenty is is about three hours like the length of baseball on American baseball game? Yeah so So yeah that's why that that came about and it seems to be growing in popularity clarity. I actually saw a great. There's a series on Netflix called explained which like quick like twenty minute. Like what the Hell is bitcoin. Or you know Tell me more about global warming so little digestible chunks and they did a quick episode in their first cricket and it was like the first time that I was like. Oh I kind of understand this. That's great I'm going to watch that. So yeah it seems impenetrable right exactly but they do a really good job and then it was okay question three. The Battle of Trafalgar was a naval engagement fought by the British Royal Navy against the combined French and Spanish fleets during the Napoleonic wars on October twenty eight five what was the appropriately named flagship commanded by Horatio Nelson during this battle in which the franco-spanish forces last twenty two ships and the British lost. None was it victory it was HMS Victory Conventional Practice at the time was for opposing fleets to engage each other in single parallel lines to facilitate signalling and disengagement and to maximise fields of fire and target areas but Horatio Nelson instead arranged his ships into the two columns to sell perpendicularly into the enemy's fleets lines. This was like a new Navy strategy so the British won a lot But during the battle Nelson was shot by a French musketeer and he died shortly before the battle ended he like deal with his victory. So so Nelson's column. In Trafalgar Sherline was constructed during the mid eighteen forty s as a monument. I will tell you being in London in England just the UK in General Man People Really Love Nelson. Oh yeah now. I was to the point where Stephen I were watching. The British antiques. Roadshow the other night while eating steak and Ale Pie and Bakewell Tart. We're so British that I was like. Maybe I should do an episode on Admiral Nelson. So we'll see it depends on how interesting historian it probably probably is. I mean they're obsessed with him. There's gotta be something good about him. So perfect all right question. For The statue of Unity depicts Indian statesman and activists Sardar pal the first deputy prime minister of independent India who united the five hundred fifty two princely states of India to form the Union of India in nineteen forty seven. What global global superlative did this statue earn upon its completion in October? Two thousand eighteen global. Superlative I dunno world's tallest. It is the tallest statue in the world. So yeah you were worried. It was unveiled in late October. Two thousand eighteen in his nearly five five times. Taller than Brazil's famed. Christ the redeemer. Are you serious twice as tall as the Statue of Liberty and one hundred eighty feet taller than the previous record holder China's China's Spring Temple Buddha so the statutes divided into five zones of which only three or accessible to the public so from its base to the level of Patel. Shins is the first at three levels includes an exhibition area. mezzanine roof zone one contains a memorial garden and a museum. The second zone reaches up only to his size and the third extends up to the viewing gallery at one hundred fifty three meters tall so the rest is like the maintenance area and then the head and shoulders of this actually. You can't go all the way to the top of them but you you can go visit the tallest statue in the world. Wow that's amazing. Cool question five. Endurance was the three masted sailing vessel that sailed to the Antarctic on the the Imperial Trans in Arctic expedition of nineteen fourteen however disaster struck when the endurance became trapped in pack ice and was slowly crushed until it sank in nineteen fifteen who was the ship's primary explorer whose fortunate crew escaped with their lives. I can't think of his name I know. And it's GonNa make me mad when I hear it because I know I know it. It's just not coming up seward seward. No that's not it. He's the Guy who bought Alaska. Um I don't know tell me his name is ernest. Shackleton Shackleton dammit. I knew it was an asks. Sell their so. Their ship like sailed eldest the ice where it got stuck and they were like Oh shit and then it slowly got crushed until started to sink so for almost two months Shackleton and his party camped on a large flat a slow hoping that it would drift toward polit island which was about two hundred fifty miles away where it was known. That supplies were held so after failed attempts to march across is to this island island Shackleton decided to set up another more permanent camp on another ice flow and trust to the drift of the ice to take them toward a safe landing so by March. So they've been doing this for like six months. This point there are. Ice Camp was within sixty miles of pilot island but separated by impassable as they were unable to reach it on April ninth. Their ice floe broke into two. And Shackleton ordered the crew into the lifeboats and head for the nearest land. After five days at sea. The exhausted mentally ended their three lifeboats at Elephant Island which was three hundred forty six miles else from where the endurance had saying. Oh my God was the first time they had stood on solid ground for four hundred ninety seven days. They were finally rescued on August. Thirtieth Nineteen Sixteen at South Georgia the island more than seven hundred twenty nautical miles from where their ship sank. Oh my gosh so for over a year yes so they realized that like the the the like this ups ups well business workout but shackleton like bad ass like no we gotta plan is like like birdies going to drift along as a mice and have it take us to this island and then they realized it wasn't working like that but nobody none of his crew died enough to eat eighty job they like they survived. That's amazing yeah. Yeah for Shackleton Question Six one one of the most iconic buildings of India is the Taj Mahal that ivory white mausoleum commissioned by the Mughal Emperor Shahjahan to house the Tomb of his favourite wife. In what century was the Taj Mahal completed. I'm going to say I'm going to say the thirteenth century the Taj Mahal was completed in the seventeenth century. So it was commissioned in sixteen thirty two and completed in sixteen fifty three Taj Mahal means place or position of the crown. It was designated estimated a UNESCO World Heritage Site in nineteen ninety-three for being visual of Muslim art in India and attracts more than seven million visitors per here. I didn't really were then. You think. Yeah Yeah Question. Seven Francis Drake the English explorer and pirates sailed the world from fifteen seventy seven to fifteen eighty along the way the ship captured more than six tons of treasure from a Spanish ship and Queen. Elizabeth Knighted Drake when he arrived back to England. What is the name of Drake's famous ship of which you can see a full scale replica docked on the South Bank of the Thames in London? I'm trying to think of a ship's name no famous ships it. It might be notre. You don't okay The no I don't know is it the biggest. No okay go ahead the Golden Hind. Oh no so. His ship was originally known as Pelican but renamed mid Voyage Judge in fifteen seventy eight in honor of his patrons or Christopher Hatton whose crest was a golden hind. That's a female red deer. So yeah if you're down in In the southern other part of the London you can see a full scale replica of it just like in the middle with like a bunch of skyscrapers all around it like Yup figures question eight too. Many people know the key to the vault in the famous backwards episode of Seinfeld. Jerry Elaine and George had India for the wedding of brought US Wonder Sue Ellen Mickey after after Elaine perceives her invite as more of an invitation. What is the title of this episode is it is is called the invitation now? Damn I did know this one at one point the the reverse one the one that goes backwards. Now that's a friend's trope what is it. This is my personal life. It's the betrayal betrayal. Ah The betrayal alludes overtly to Harold Pinter's play and film betrayal. The debt to Pinter's play appears in the episode title in the in the use of force chronology which mimics a prominent feature of Pinter's play revealing personal betrayals in the plot. The backward chronology begins in India ending injuries. Very first meeting with COSMO Kramer Kramer in his apartment. Eleven years earlier. That's it's a great episode so smart Question Name. The White Star Line developed a trio of British passenger ships called the Olympic class. Ocean liners during the early twentieth century. All three were designed to be the largest and most luxurious passenger ships in the world giving white starring advantage in the transatlantic passenger trade to were lost early in their careers and one was sold for scrap in nineteen thirty five named any two of these three massive ships built by Harland and Wolff Shipyard in Belfast Ireland. Okay so one is the titanic. The other had another equally like big name like big big name. So was it like the gigantic GAM tick. I feel like it started with the G. disarmed. What's a word? The ends an antique. All right. Tell me what it is. Just tell me okay. The three ships are the Olympic Olympic. Titanic and Britannic Britannic yes. I'm trying to think of so. The Olympic was built in nineteen eleven titanic in nineteen twelve and Britannic in nineteen fifteen. The titanic sank in nineteen twelve on her maiden voyage The BRITANNIC sank in nineteen sixteen during World War One after hitting a mine laid by the Minelayer Submarine U. Seventy three in the GNC and then Olympic pick the lead vessel had a career spanning twenty four years and was retired and sold for scrap in nineteen thirty five. These ships were all nearly nine hundred feet long by two hundred five feet high. I had nine decks and the capacity to hold more than thirty. Three hundred passengers officers and crew So they're they're rival. The White Sirloin rival was called Kunert. And they they had the ships Lusitania which was sunk by a u boat in. Nineteen fifteen in the Mauritania which was scrapped in nineteen thirty five so those are a couple those some big ships big six ships from nineteen tens. That's your pop song. That's that pop song that everyone knows Britannic. Ten random more national park in northern India is also a wildlife sanctuary best known for seeing which specific creatures there's their natural jungle habitat. I'm going to say tigers. What kind of Tiger I'm GONNA say Bengal Tiger Tiger so ransom for participates in project tiger tiger? which is a tiger conservation? Program launched in April nineteen seventy-three by the government of India during Prime Minister Indira Gandhi tenure. The project aims at ensuring a viable population of Bengal tigers in their natural habitats protecting them from extinction in preserving areas of biological importance. Great Great Job. Lauren worried well. You know. I didn't get Olympic or gigantic. Or whatever you said Britannica I know that's fine. I don't remember Great thank you Julia for your topic. That was so interesting. And thank you for that. The Dan Quiz Dang Dang Quiz. 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