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Fresh update on "emma" discussed on Post Show Recaps
"Dot com all right. This comes our way from the legendary tessa. The tesseract patriot post show recaps. Who says. I'm pretty sure. The christopher reeve movies the only superman movies i know. I don't remember them very well. But i remember watching at least one of them as a child and i still haven't seen any of the henry cavill superman movies. Well you know part of that would be because like they couldn't. They couldn't make more superman movies really like they tried to get a few off the ground after after quest for peace. There's a j.j. abrams thing that almost happened. There's the brat thing that almost advert superman lives ranging superman the nicholas cage. Superman is what kevin is referring to. The superman lives right. I think that that might be right. Yeah the there was a documentary about about that movie. Yeah the death of superman lives a two thousand fifteen movie directed by the late john sh- nip that. I have not seen this film. I have not seen. The death of superman lives have him but wanted to for a very long. So i don't know if i'm in it. I'm sorry what. But i am absolutely in the trailer for it joshua. No i have to watch this really upset that you aren't superman thing before me. I feel that as a personal affront. I don't know if i made it. I don't know if i made it into the movie. But i expect. It's very likely that i did because certainly made it into the trailer because my last act as a full time employee at mtv news was to go to a movie junket for a film called the crudes animated movie called the crudes had legendary of i had a legendarily bad interview with ryan reynolds and emma stone right that was followed swiftly by legendarily delightful interview with one nicholas cage and during that interview. I asked nicholas cage about superman lives and he gave me like a fairly substantial answer about like what that movie could have been like and those questions that i asked him and some of his answering is featured in the trailer for the death of superman lives so ever seen the movie i think part of it has been like gun shy and i kinda just want it to be sort of legendary in my own mind but i always was very proud of the fact that my question for nicholas cage at the very least fueled the trailer for the death of syrian lives. So kevin if you're gonna watch it or if somebody out there is gonna watch you could report back to me and let me know did i. Did i make the final cut. That's what i wanna know. Did i make it.
HBO Reveals Photos From Game of Thrones Prequel House of the Dragon
"But, um, you know, House of Dragon House of the Dragon is the prequel to Game of Thrones and Matt Smith, who played young Prince Philip and season one in two of the crown, which we loved. He basically In a blond wig, and he joined this woman who's in a million Clarke lookalike. Emma Darcy on the beach. They're filming in Cornwall, England, and all I can think of is that this Emma Darcy must be She's a tar Jerry in so she's related to You know that anyway? It just It's 300 years before the game of Thrones. Syriza's Oh, okay, He's dressed as Prince Damon to Gary in. Well, then there's gonna be a ton of Reagan's because, remember, there were only three left right. There's 10, and he's got long ice blonde wig and shooting on this windy Holly Well, Bay Beach in Cornwall, confirming that that southwest coast of England will be a key location. And of course they let us let they release these photos. You got them out there because who knows when we're going to see this show, but Definitely and looking at the
Karim Benzema Earns Real Madrid Draw Against Chelsea
"The back of the english newspapers dominated by chelsea's one one draw against rambler. We can pull this off a young a lot on the back. Page and stop in spain. Marker going with a draw to keep dreaming meanwhile benz emma is. It was an interesting game wasn't in the spanish capital dominated once again from a strike as perspective about team verners. Miss chances yagan thomas to coming out afterwards and saying you know this. Is this kind of life. This is what's happening with him at the moment. How much trust have you within him again. That he can find the back of the net once again. Maybe soon i've total trust in him because he knows where to be in the right time and right now maybe there. He misses one and that specific moment. So so that's something to deal with for strike. Oh and you have to kind of just think about the next opportunity comes along like you know michael jordan said so he missed more shots than east called and t-mobil no. It's just like you know if you fail moments it makes you only stronger and the kit is good. The kid has a tremendous amount of drive and talent and he knows where the ball will fall in the box and he can also know makes things happen himself of his speed and going at people. So i'm i totally have trust. And t mobile. He will go through that stage and who knows. Maybe he's causing the next game in the second leg or he's goals in the final of the champions league you know. He was very young when he was twenty. One being meaning the golden boot at the confederations cup in russia in two thousand seventeen and he scored one hundred goals in the gym bundestag already. And he's only twenty five to kit is good and a kid will prove it but obviously it has to deal with the criticism when you miss a big chance. That's normal night. Goalkeepers do as well when they make a mistake. You know the the all over them but I hope that he gets plenty of opportunities going forward.
Mr. Chuggy and Me
"On the night live in maryland gnawing run. Okay any bella. Ready lia randomly let sorta rise to viral video. Starting on your mark get set. You guys are just standing there. Why aren't you dancing. I was waiting for go. Why are you dancing now. She said go. Hi emma or not emily. It's it's not supposed to be serious. Mean how you do. One thing is how you do everything. I've read that on a mug. You sound like my gymnastics coach the secret to winnings consistency bella. There is no try only. Where are you going. i'm going home. Perfection is its own fun ben. Emily thought you were having a sleepover. Annie's a was until she and bella decided they weren't interested in becoming the biggest social media stars of tomorrow honey. Is this about you being in charge of the dances again. You're never on my side. I'm going to my rome. Did she bring her sleeping bag back. No i guess it's my turn to go get it and i'm gonna have to make small talk with annie's parents. It's not content with my life. I just want to be perfect. What would you like leamy. Let me grab my. I'm not your father. Emily missing row. You're not my father. I never seen my dad in princess. Closer holding a one. And my dad doesn't have a beard or am your fairy godmother mr shuki.
Chad's President Idriss Déby Dies After 'Clashes With Rebels'
"Today with news that broke in just the last two hours from Chad, the Central African country, which sits south of Libya and also borders Sudan and in Asia. The President Idriss Deby has died from injuries. We're told sustained on the front line off the battle against rebel forces. This is how the army spokesman General ASM By Amanda A. Guana announced the death. Marshaled each other. It is Debbie signal. The marshal of Chad Idriss Deby it no. As he did every time Republican institutions were gravely threatened, took the lead during a heroic operation. Directed against terrorists who came from Libya. He was wounded in the fighting on passed away shortly after being returned to INGE Amina. His death comes just hours after provisional results from the recent presidential election gave him nearly 80% off the votes. This would have been his sixth term in office, running largely unopposed in a country he has ruled for the past three decades. From bases in Libya. Rebels have been advancing on the capital and Janina on president. Debbie had per spooned his victory speech, instead choosing to visit Chadian soldiers. Just a short time ago, we got through to Muhammed Adamu, who is a freelance journalist in the capital, N'Djamena. It was during a battle in North Can Emma but with the charge and rebels who stormed the country from the south side of Libya. They've been progressing till not contempt does roughly 300 kilometers from the capital, N'Djamena, and that's where it will be a one to the front line. And finally he's been wounded and evacuated him to N'Djamena. Where as you know he died. You
Sharon Stone Discusses Her Autobiography in Candid Interview
"It's nearly 30 years since Sharon Stone played Catherine Tramell in the film Basic Instinct. It was a role she craved, but only managed to get after 12. Other actresses turned it down. It became a huge box of his hit on that infamous uncross ng and crossing of the legs scene remains one of the most controversial and talked about moments in film history. The movies that followed include an Oscar nomination for her role in Scorsese's casino alongside Robert DeNiro. More recently, the Laundromat with Meryl Streep on on the small screen. There was last year standout performance in the Netflix series, Ratchet. At the height of her career in 2001, having had several miscarriages on day after adopting her first child, Sharon Stone, suffered a stroke and almost died. She's now written her autobiography, the Beauty of Living twice in it. She talks about the fact that some people saw her as a very strong, difficult woman and how upsetting that's peanut times as she told the BBC's Emma Barnet. We think what it really is, is that I don't have the capacity to lie, and I think that people find that quite off putting And when I tell the truth that can seem quite offensive or the favorite Hollywood word difficulty. I do feel that in business. We're often put in positions that we didn't ever see ourselves being put in. And they're often crisis moments where we have to reconsider. I'm in this position. Now. What am I going to do with regards to the me to movement? Now are a couple of years on from that deep do you actually think Because the other thing you talk about being the only woman on set, you know men were doing your hair. Men were doing your makeup. Do you think it has got any better? Yes, because legally, they're just things that cannot be explained away anymore. You just can't say why can't she have a female dresser?
A Rebuttal of the Most Recent Bitcoin Environmental FUD
"Listen i don't want to have to be reading this piece today in the same way that nick. Carter didn't wanna have to be writing it earlier. This week but mainstream media insists on continuing to peddle nonsense around the environmental impact of bitcoin and other parts of the crypto industry. So here we are today on long reads sunday. I'll be reading nick. Carter's peace on bitcoin. The gray lady embraces climate lysenko wisdom. How the new york times wields junk science in their attacks on bitcoin. I want to thank the formerly emma new york times. I read their latest article on bitcoin at five thirty. Am this morning. And i was immediately jolted into a state of alertness. No coffee needed their latest missive. On bitcoin's climate footprint is so poorly researched. That once i read it. I knew i had an immediate duty to push back. I've transcended resignation at this point. My current attitude is astonishment. I am simply amazed at the new york. Times published such shoddy work presumably. Someone at the new york times knows about bitcoin. Why would they put through such a week piece. did they not think it would face pushback. Here's the article in question in coin bases rise. A reminder crypto currencies us lots of energy. there's another equally in an article on. Nf from the same author. That i don't have time to get into but suffice to say the authors take on tees is woefully inadequate. The context here. Of course the new york times tried to take down coin base uber style by publishing hit piece after hippies on the company following see o'brien armstrong's commitment to keep the company focused on the core corporate mission advancing the usage of crypto currency and refusing to wade into any larry culture wars or political conflicts. Reasonable enough right. Not in. Current here is unforgivable. Crime of staying focused put a gigantic target. On coin basis back caused the nypd to direct considerable resources to tearing down the startup thankfully the nypd manifestly failed and was humiliated when coin bass rose above and had the most successful direct listing of all time yesterday and the third biggest public listing ever.
Ontario Announce New Restrictions to Curb Surging COVID-19 Rates
"An overflow of covert 19 patients. A Canadian province of Ontario announced new restrictions meant a halter worsening crisis. Here's Emma Jacobs, the government of Ontario will extend a stay at home order and authorized police to stop people and asked the reason for being outdoors. As part of stepped up enforcement Premier Doug Ford also announced restrictions on outdoor gatherings and limits on travel from neighboring provinces understand the restrictions. Will be strongly strongly enforced because they must be. Medical experts warned earlier this year that Ontario was reopening too quickly and could see a surgeon cases and hospitalizations fueled by more contagious variants. You have also pushed for paid sick leave for essential workers for NPR news. I'm Emma Jacobs in Montreal. This is NPR news. Support for NPR
Protesters in Boston denounce anti-Asian racism
"No justice, no peace. More than 100. People marched from Peter's Park in Boston to Chinatown and his WBC Suzanne Sauce. Full reports The out of the Orient March for Asian futures called for an end to white supremacy today. Is not the only day that we're going to resist, right. We're going to resist until we get demanded that they're calling on state legislators to doom or during the covert 19 recovery period to make sure by park families have homes and jobs. Caroline Chu was with the Asian American Resource Workshop. That is how we fight back against violence. We build stable, thriving communities. Our people do that in the face of so much, and we need the system to step up and give us our basic needs. Hey, the people way the people Asian coalition, Emma organized the march moving forward. They hope to create a mutual aid network called the Peace Walk Program, where volunteers walk Asians and other people of color home from places like train stations to help keep them safe from racist violence.
EU regulator finds link between AstraZeneca vaccine and blood clots
"The European Union's drugs regulator says it's found a possible link between AstraZeneca's Corona virus vaccine and a rare blood clotting disorder. But the European Medicines Agency stresses the benefits of the AstraZeneca vaccine in for all outweigh the risks of side effects. The regulators chief Emma Cook, says cases of clotting are
Disney+ Has Raised Its Prices
"Mike got noticed. Recently that the price of disney plus subscription is going up. That's right if you remember back in december. I know it seems like eons ago. Disney announced the plan to increase the monthly cost of the subscription. And i got that email a few days ago too. But the price would increase on march twenty sixth so disney plus alone will increase by one dollars going from six nine a month to seven ninety nine annual subscriptions will increase ten dollars from sixty nine nine to seventy nine nine thousand nine and if you get the disney plus hulu. Espn bundled like i do. It's increasing from twelve ninety nine monthly to thirteen ninety nine per month but the entertainment giant justified. The price increase based on its aggressive content. Plan if you remember back. In december when they announced the price increase they said gonna be developing ten new marvel series ten new star wars series and more than two dozen disney and pixar movies series and and then also be on that just recently disney announced more theatrical releases will come straight to the streaming service. The marvel film. Black widow starring scarlett johansson originally set to hit theaters. May seventh will. Now be out july ninth in theaters and simultaneously on disney plus like the films moulin live action mulan and ray and last dragon. You can watch them on the street service. It's called premier access for an additional twenty nine ninety nine. That sounds like a lot but you know when you take your kids to the film to the movie theater. It's more than that you know. Just me and my wife is probably thirty bucks to get in Another film that's gonna come to To disney plus on this premier accesses correla the action film the villainous from the hundred one nation story and starring emma stone. It's going to hit theaters and disney plus on may twenty eighth and another film picks ours. Luca will now stream exclusively on disney plus on june eighteenth similar to how the movie soul came out at christmas time. We whatever disney's been doing with disney plus it's work. The service recently surpassed ninety five million
Child cancer cluster linked to contaminated water
"805 shedding new light on another type of cluster this one related to cancer cases found in Wilmington. It dates to the 19 nineties, and WBC's Carl Stevens says more on a decades long study, the state Department of Public Health Back in 1999 was alerted by authorities and Wilmington about an elevated level of childhood cancer. Nearly two dozen Children were diagnosed with cancer during the nineties. The department launched a lengthy investigation and the results just released suggest to cause the formerly contaminated water supply. Turns out the water supply was tainted with the chemical called ND Emma from a local chemical manufacturing facility that's no longer in business. In fact, there old operating space 53 acres is a Superfund site. The subject of a $48 million EPA
You Asked For Shots, Tuna, Metal, and Money
"High planet money. This is haley calling from boston. I went to my local whole foods. Recently and splurged on what i thought was sustainably caught tuna and then i see when i get home in tiny print that it is wild caught in the usa. Great but it's packed in thailand. And i started thinking about all the miles that might tuna had traveled to get to me and my whole foods in boston and my question is. Is it worth buying this. Supposedly sustainably caught tuna even though it has travelled. Who knows how far around the globe to get to me. What is the environmental impact of this tuna. Yes that question means that. It is time once again to answer questions from our listeners. Hello and welcome to planet money. I'm jacob goldstein. First question of the day comes from haley. It's about tuna a delicious fish and emma. Peasley you're here to answer this question. Hello yes so. I talked to fish economist to get to the bottom of this one. I'm chris anderson. I'm a professor fishery economics in school of aquatic and fishery sciences at the university of washington. So the first thing chris says is that it is cheaper to pack the tuna in land then in the us and it's worth mentioning here that there have been labor issues at tie fish packing plants in the past. Also chris says it just doesn't cost as much as you'd think to ship things across the ocean and back ocean shipping is really cheap really cheap and it's really cheap because the boats that do it are really efficient because they move so much
Public helps increase Snowbird Fund
"This is national native news. Antonio gonzalez three tribes in alaska are participating in a pilot program to collect data and provide solutions on a community level to missing and murdered indigenous. People katyal brian van wa- spoke with officials about how the new project will change their approach on active and cold cases at the beginning of the year. The us attorney's office for alaska announced that the department of justice would embark on a pilot project to address the missing and murdered indigenous persons epidemic in the state which again tribal council in dealing ham is one of three alaska tribes that volunteered to be part of the project. Each tribe will develop a tribal community response plan tailored to its needs resources and culture. According to a study by the urban indian health institute out of twenty nine states alaska ranks fourth in the number of missing and murdered indigenous women. Tribal administrator courtney cardi says the importance of statistics on a local level often. Native communities are researched by outsiders in the situation. It's very important that especially with such a sensitive topic but our council is able to work with families directly to quantify the issue and demonstrate that ourselves versus having outside organization. Be that for the drive meets with the us attorney's office as part of a forum to increase communication between communities and public officials. Ingrid cumberland's is the emma p. coordinator for the us attorney's office in alaska. She says that a key to reduce mvp cases to establish connections between tribes agencies and to implement solid tribal community response plans. We we really just need to build those relationships and and make sure that everybody is as soon as possible so that we can get working on any incident at the quickest possible moment. Brian schroeder the us attorney for alaska stressed that it is important to establish communication and transparency before crises occur. A large part of what this is is getting all the parties involved all the stakeholders involved to start talking to each other. Now you wanna be able to talk ahead of time and know each other and open those lines of communication to young's plan will serve as a model for hub communities like bethel nome more information about the pilot project can be found by contacting the us attorney's office in alaska and billingham. I'm brian vanua
Marvel's Black Widow to hit Disney Plus for $30 on July 9
"Disney going to release black widow and crew wella in theaters and on disney claw again at the same time. So black widow starring plus yet. Well okay so laid to open on july ninth which has pushed back from its previous may seventh opening day which movie that's black widow. Like when you're gonna have to pay thirty bucks for it if you disney plus so even though you have disney plus you still have to pay for them to ally crap you think how much money. They're losing out by not having seattle release charge bullcrap. I really want to see her with emma stone. That's gonna hit theaters and disney plus premium access on may twenty eighth at about one. That animated film. Luca is gonna skip debtors entirely. And that's gonna disney plus june eighteenth so a couple of things to look forward
La Brega: The End Of The Promises
"I've noticed that outside of puerto rico. Many people seem uncomfortable calling the island. A us colony in the you'll hear the word territory or commonwealth protectorate. Even and that used to be the case in puerto rico to but not anymore. I'm mortal in puerto rico. More on who. Bill apple repartee emma on puerto rico s loonier needles colonia colonia people would twist themselves into pretzels to avoid the seaward. And there's a reason. For that put a ricans. Were promised that they were not a colony. This is yeti baena yeti mad as a political anthropologist. She writes about places like what the rico guadeloupe and carousel which are not independent states. She has a column in the puerto rican newspaper in livonia and she's also written for outlets like the washington post and the nation lately. She's been tracing the evolution of how puerto ricans think about our relationship to the us and how that has been transformed by the many challenges of the last decade a debt crisis hurricanes earthquakes and now a global pandemic. What's crazy is that being a puerto rican is now requires you to be like a disaster allah gist and i guess now also an epidemiologist and an economist and historian all this crisis has led to a reckoning in puerto rico that promise that yeti meta mentioned about not being a colony it's pretty much been broken
Senators Visit Southern Border Amid Increase Of Unaccompanied Minors
"This week. There's a 30% increase in the number of young migrants being held by customs and border protection. Senator Chris Murphy, a Democrat of Connecticut, is just back from the border and joins us now, Senator Thanks so much for being with us. Yeah. Thanks for having me you were with the homeland Security secretary yesterday. El Paso on a bipartisan delegation of senators. Uh, no press, no cameras. DHS says that was for privacy. But does this just serve the skepticism that the government has something to hide? I think there's a way for DHS to allow some additional press access into these facilities at the same time. You know, these are kids, you know, six years old 12 years old, who are at the incredibly vulnerable point in their life, And so I certainly understand that there's a reason why you want to be careful about, um, giving press access to them at the same time. We've got to be possible to let reporters just walk around, not take any pictures, right? Yeah, No, I'm Emma's knows something that we should all press the administration to do better on. We want to make sure the president access toe hold pigment castration accountable, but that's the reason I was there to hold them accountable and We've seen a surge that began last year began under the Trump administration, but it's real. It's pressing their resource is and right Now, these kids you're staying too long in detention centers were gonna work. I'm getting them. Additional resource is so that we can process these kids and get them in the J just care rather than the HSE care as quickly as possible. It zah real challenge right now along the border, we got do better. Well, according to NPR reports, hundreds of Children and teens have been held in detention centers for 10 days and longer and of course, by law is supposed to be just 72 hours. You're in charge of the appropriations Committee that over overseas homeland security. Is there any kind of motivation? You could give them if I might put it that way? Well, you know, the rise in Children coming to the border has happened so quickly that it has been difficult. Move them out of these detention facilities in under three days. Right now, as we speak, they're building new capacity to be able to house these Children and filling new slots in the HHS systems. So they are also trying to rebuild. A program of the Trump Administration ended in Central America to allow for kids to apply for asylum there. You know what Donald Trump did was essentially tear down the entire asylum system on so when you had this massive increase in Children coming to the border, first at the end of last year, continuing into the Biden administration It was very difficult for people to move these kids out of attention in that 72 hour period. So the vitamin station's been working very fast to try to rebuild the asylum system. To try to let these kids once again apply to stay in this country if their lives are truly in danger back home and Guatemala or Honduras. But they inherited an absolute mess. A wreck from the Trump administration. They're trying to do better as quickly they can. So they're going to be opening up new facilities for these kids throughout the southwest border in the coming weeks. Hopefully you'll be able to see these times go back down below 72 hours very quickly. They're doing the best. Well and what conditions look like for you in the minute we have left. Well, I mean, this is better than what we saw in 2019. You're not kids in, you know, so called cages. They're not being separated from their family at the border. But these are facilities. You wouldn't want your child in for more than 10 minutes there. Big open rooms. The kids air. You're sleeping on thin mattresses on the floor. There sort of bunched. You know about six inches to a foot from each other. We've got ultimately do better. These air conditions that can just build on the trauma that these kids have already experienced in their home countries and on the long transit to the United States by administration's trying as quickly as they can Process these
European countries to resume AstraZeneca jabs
"Nations including france. Germany and italy are resuming. The rollout of the oxford astra zeneca vaccine today after the blocks medicines regulator. The emma said the job was both safe and effective twenty member states. Had to paul's the use of the vaccine. The unfounded claims that it caused blood.
Charts show that Europe's third coronavirus wave has begun
"Virus infections. The spread of several highly contagious variants of the virus, combined with a slow vaccine rollout are making the situation worse. As we heard on yesterday's show Europe's drug regulator, the European Medicines Agency, or Emma, has cleared the AstraZeneca vaccine for use. Seeing the benefits of the vaccine far outweigh any rest. Reporter Rebecca Rossman is in Paris and joins us now with
"emma" Discussed on Emma
"Hello and welcome to another episode of the PODCAST. And it's just you may but we've got some Some virtual guests and some adventures to tell you what. What's Yes we've been out on the road again. We attended a conference Very recently at Cardiff High School in South Wales for the first ever research Ed Comrie Conference. Yeah conference with the difference. Because we've been to one or two conferences ourselves but always tended to just be aimed education. Academics has never been a teacher in sight but for the first time we went to that. Raby Sta Conference. That is entirely created with teachers in mind. Yeah it was excellent. It was a real buzz about the place. They were all some students on our current program who present Some teach students shout out to them. So the really nice mix of practitioners from all across different aspects of the of the profession. And we were all there together to listen to some keynote speakers. There was some parallel papers. There was a lot to choose from wasn't a year there. Were absolutely lo two sessions and some of them with some very big names people who've written books that we've read so even reviewed on the podcast. It was a a difficult decision. I wasn't working out what to go to but it was. It was certainly exciting. Room is absolutely full of teachers. Who are giving it their Saturday to be there. So we've got a clip for you just to kick this off to give you a little bit more of an insight into the work of Research Ed and to give you an insight into why this research had come reinvent was so special and important. Yeah we've got Gareth rain. Who is one of the organizers? He's a friend of the PODCAST. You may have heard him on the curriculum design panel mega episode a few weeks ago so we interviewed him down the line from his school in. Paneth and asked him what it was. All about. So Gareth you're a big mover and Shaker in the wilder research ed so I guess you'll probably the person to ask what is it. How did IT COME TO BE? What's research had four? I'm amid tall. I'm nobody in the ruler so research adds started about seven years. Go relea- where told Bennett no-doubt in conversation with lots of people had this idea of getting teaches together on a Saturday so that they could talk about the idea of how research could be used in their costumes and so he got together with Helene? O'shea I hope I'm pronouncing her name correctly under put a tweet out and said if we were to run such an event may be for about ten pounds I think. Do you think that people would turn up and within an hour? I think they had enough people that responded to say yes. I definitely would come on Night the the field of dreams Kevin Costner. Few bill did they will come. That's exactly what's happened you know. The rest is history so they've had now events in countries in every continent apart from Antarctica. They all always vary widely attended at a nate. Have the national conference in London. Each which is always a huge event now in in the calendar. Fantastic I mean. Is this something for student. Teaches and keep tease early career teachers as well as more experienced members of the profession. And you often hear from them. You know I'm just worrying about the nuts and bolts. I just want to keep them quiet and sitting down but actually is this something in it for people who are new to the profession. Everybody so Student teachers even people who had just considering going into teaching I would say could attendant should defend research events. They are despite sometimes the apparent dichotomy between different ideas. On twitter they saw open to everybody so heterogeneous emit makeup in terms of the speakers. A A a very welcoming events on it's great to see the different age ranges. Probably I would say it would be more so under certified's when you're actually up the events but there's people always through retired teachers both speaking and being part of the days and I think that's absolutely fantastic. And we hear a lot of our perceived gap between the world of education and the world of people working away in the classroom. I'm trying to close that. Gap is explicitly. Part of what we're doing over here in Wales now you know. It's written into the design of our teacher. Education programs is something we really need to begin on within doing. So what do you think the challenges are in trying to achieve that and I guess apart from Research Ed's Where do you see? The solutions might lie. So one of the major challenges is is time Another interesting aspect of a research Unwind being successful in how it's been successful is the fact that people are willing to give up a Saturday so to have people at all stages of their career who want to pay their own money to turn a bonus out today to listen to great speakers. I think is incredible. If you divorce me ten years ago this would do business success. I probably wouldn't have faith that Tom had said Noxon. Today's precious weekends pressures for family. Tell him for catching up on all the things that teaches fight so difficult to do during the week yet. This grassroots way of working seems to be flourishing so Natural Guide in Erie Wales. But it's great to see so I think. What are the challenges? Despite the fact that they've been successful successful is time. It's really hard for teachers to release people from the classroom. Of course. There's always accustomed with that. I think if we can maybe strike a balance between how. We're able to do that so I'm teaching of Saint Joseph's school here Tickets from the school so teaches didn't pay. I'm we allowed. Our teachers will attend the event on now. Would've Irene set days in the year will be given over to that so that Saturday working will be given back to them where we don't have to have in school so I think schools can be creative in terms of how they do these things so that would be one way of tried to deal with the challenge. I think that something else that we didn't jokes to school has really worked for us on that was to set the curriculum development team. So if I go right back to to suit off to the publication of successful futures we decided in suggests that we wanted to look at what we do in the school to review everything on to think about what we should change in how we could change it and so we established a curriculum development team of five people within the school so from relatively creatures right through to his head and between us we read lots of lots of books journals a blogs. Listen to podcasts. I Nev- we fed back to each other unbanned. Those fights them went out to the teachers across the school. Undone chatted about ideas on we even provided digests of stuff. So we said you might not have the time Toledo love daisy student. Seven minutes about education but here all the things that we think you should know from the book and then hopefully you would then use that to go to read the book. But if you haven't got these are the things that we think could help you and impact upon you in the classroom practices school. So those kind of digests At which we had down pressure looting sessions will really help. I think Ta stop so I think the schools could be running such a days or after school sessions. Leads time clubs. I know all these sorts of things are going right now. I think it's a real gold at age of the use of research in schools under the ideas of teachers doing it for themselves and a really nice message there but this isn't just something for senior management for the top brass in a school. You're making it clear that brand new members of the profession of something they can bring to an established school environment. Yeah absolutely under something. That hopefully is happening in universities now and other and I do see it happening through the students. The we've had just here in St Joseph's school is that they're being given these messages right from the stuff to decorate. So they're being told that you should be research informed and that you should not only try and access the the kind of books and journals Electrodes are recommending but also to go wide then to try and even develop the ability to undertake enquiries and so those people will be able to go into schools already working in that way and then helped me be called. Who Only told Nikolaus? You have done that in a long time. We have never done that kind of thing so they will become valuable within schools because they will have the skills to help by this and it looked like it was a really successful event. Research had come reap the first research at Camry. Does that mean this going to be another one? We hope so obsolete. We're we're in discussion with Heading no we've at kind of the provisional date for next year so we just have to try and make sure that we're able to cross the t's and dot the i's Aman if we can we'd probably be left until announced that tate sometime suits hopefully still within this month of much. We'll keep an eye out gareth. Ray Thank you so they have it. Gareth rain if you build it. They will come in and they indeed did come. It was really full hall and we started off. Didn't we with Not The man himself in the flesh but a video message from a giant of education search. Yes Mary My. It caused him. Saint Dylan does because he's going to listen. That's okay. We're not breaking the whole room. Mary Sorry Dylan see if we still employed yes you had a video message from Tila willing. Because he was on a plane when research at but he is. He's very committed to the research at movement isn't he is and he gave us some really great food for thought at the start of the day that actually because we were presenting. We'll talk about this a bit later on we presenting at the end of the day and I was a bit nervous at that to begin with because I thought Oh gosh. I'm going to be waiting the whole day. Not going to be able to really get into the other speakers because I'm GonNa be worrying about mine but actually I found it really helpful because everything every new presentation kind of gave me a new spin or or shed light in a different way on what we were going to do in the afternoon so I actually found it really helpful starting wave Saint Dylan Speight Mama for the English because Dylan William here. When I was first teaching back in the nineteen seventies. I think my attitude towards research in education will is exemplified by the story of a man who's walking his dog in a field and a hot air balloon comes into view above his head and the man of the basket leans over says. Where am I on? The ground says bloom thirty feet above my head.
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"And hello welcome back to the PODCAST. Podcast that is still locked. Down and pair of podcasters. You still haven't seen each other now for several weeks several weeks. It does feel like that as well as time. Strange right now they face it Nehal. Yeah we've not been having our campuses being close to a snow for water week. I think There was two. I've I'm losing track me. Two at time has become strange. Tying feel suspended I feel suspended in time. We probably describe our circumstance. Right now sat in a car. This podcast down the line Because obviously we ought to be in the same place we are. We are social distancing from one another. So yes I in the car outside my dogs because everybody is sleep. It's quite late night. I don't have the luxury of any kind of guarantee or anything cars. A very good record in because they're very very dead inside their designed to kind of debt and old road noise and the engine noise. They're great space to record and But I am literally parked on the side of the road outside my house. I can pick up my Wifi from outside the House and Yeah it's Dark. It's cold and some people just won't pass but addicting. They sold me the link. We go to bring you this podcast. I feel I feel with surpassing ourselves. I think this is good. Yeah it's I I imagine you're probably you're comfortable high so you. My surroundings are nowhere near as as Quirky as yours right. Now I'm in the The tranquility of my study and Yeah I have no cocker Spaniel. You'll be pleased to hear a wandering around me. 'cause he's tie-dyed to walks. Because these self-isolating times we take the dog different shifts so got levingston walked to within an inch of his life or I'm just wondering if all the coding skin to be interrupted by the police coming past asked me whether my journey from my front door to my car was essential or not. The answer is yes it is. We hope that it might feel like proper journalists than some police manno tapping on your window. You Talk I live so we are going to bring you our traditional holiday light edition of Blogs tweets and stories from the news that we've gathered together Mine certainly are not particularly education related as usual. We haven't told each other what we've got an advanced but I can tell you that minor pretty far removed from the world of education deliberately so well one of mine is education related Quite short but the other one is definitely not related. Although I'm sure I'll I'll make some tenuous links But yeah hopefully you will find them of interest and if not you can always switch off. Please don't just stay with us if you can't stay with it. Just it can be freezing in the dark car recorded this. That's worthwhile yeah. Stick it out. Go the long distance for Tom. I'm going I'm going to start this off. You're going to start off with something. Work related this tweet. That came out on a very ominous day. Actually on the sixteenth of March twenty twenty which. I'm pretty sure was the day. That are poor Stevens. We're told that they could no longer be Going into school on their place but anyway this is not related to that. This comes from an a twitter handle at our S and school network. Which is an abbreviation of Research Schools Network? Which is an England based organization? I think have lots of connections with other organizations that we talked about on this podcast such as the Education Endowment Foundation. They have tweeted a quote from a guest blog on the education. Endowment Foundation's website And Quote at reeds treating implementation as a process not an event and seeking to answer the question. Does it work? Hia is how we believe. Our school can best improve. Student outcomes. it sounds quite dry. Leon are light episode but so I just thought I'd I'd mentioned white grabbed me and Tom and I have been an all of our co workers. Colleagues academic had been reading Mary. Miot book of late and She talks a lot about do wing more with less spending more time going deeper allowing teachers more time to think deeply. We've talked about this law in relation to quicken foils just rut really liked this this idea it. The the blog is speaking to senior leaders school leaders mainly but it just makes a refreshing point in the context of evidence informed practice in schools. Who Evidence informed. I dislike this idea that you know implementation is a slow burn Uninvolved a lot of collaboration discussion. Tiny get people on board and also that that really good question that's quoted in that tweet which is does it work here Because there are a lot of fire side than there are a lot of you know really important evidence strategies areas of focus that regain a lot of Menton in education. But I just struck me with this tweet that amidst so of some slightly more vitriolic tweets out there by you know retrieval practice cognitive science which is absolutely Acknowledged to be very very important in the world of education but I dislike the idea that you know with everything we should be asking. Does this work here. And how can we best? You know integrate this in a way. That's going to be right for us and Fowler kids. This is the theme. That would come up all the ones has next. We've talked about this move towards evidence. Informed research informed practice in schools and general. I think a lot of US welcome. I think it's a a real shot in the arm for the profession. But we've we've said more than once said with our friends from impact Wales. We'll said With Professor David James. It's so tempting for that to become the next management stick for beating people with all the next kind of quick fix or or you know sort of thing that the new broom imposes on everybody when they get appointed to a school. And you're and you're absolutely right. There are no shortcuts with this stuff and there are no black and white cut and dried ounces as much as some people might want them to be. Yeah absolutely and when I when I then sort of drill down into the block itself which is quite sure read actually. There was some nice reflect refreshing messages to to school leaders In how they how they grow leadership capacity and how they lead on on change implementation and you know change culture change mindsets and one of the big things that they talk about In this blog with this person talks in this blog by should name him. His name's Roger Higgins Director of Norwich Research School part of the education endowment foundations for search schools network and he talks about the platform for Good School. Implementation is to create the right lead ship environment and carefully plan for implementation as a process not event and he talks about the importance of Senior leadership teams teams working as teams Rather than You know as individuals sort of going around policing everything is. It was just refreshing and for any student teachers out there who have got aspirations for senior leadership roles on the nine. I think is a lot to be found by looking into sort of school culture and implementation of of research informed practice house interesting. I think are sort of mentality building up a little. A little kind of metaphorical drawer marked really controversial. Podcast episodes we should do. I know we said to be recorded. Christmas. Didn't we gonNA really let ripon creativity at some point after Kepler stiff drinks. I think I'm going to add to that. Draw school leadership culture Yeah yeah he said. He says that he says the changes. We're making twenty. Chip habits aren't easy so it's just nice. It's nice to hear that and I hope that it may be nice for any senior leader listeners out there to to hear that two and two You know to to know that we don't see the enemy we see is very very important. Leaders of change in definitely make the occasional Kind of spiky comments about senior leaders sometimes better you know I. I always was aware even even when I was perhaps as a as a teacher. The chalk face kind of cursing the latest Thing to hit my email inbox that they were only being hammered by somebody above them in the same way. Anna wonder whether perhaps it might be worth just putting out their open invitation for any senior leader. Who would like to maybe come on and discuss The complexities and the sort of the pros and cons of different ways of being a senior leader with us. Because I think that could be a really interesting episode. I agree and there's an offer if after I heard done Tom. Okay Kamata senior leaders really WANNA speak to you now. You're up you're okay. So I know we always say blogs and I think I've done this before ended up with a sort of online newspaper column instead but it it's it's effectively a bit like a blog. I suppose I'm cheating slightly This column in. The Guardian called the network which deals with technology and. This is an article that came out. It's written by John Naughton then. It came out on Saturday the twenty eighth of March so just a couple of short days ago. And I'll spare you the sort of fooling the to cope with the bit. That really grabbed me. was a comment that they're making about Amazon. The enormous online giant company Amazon and the role they played in this corona virus pandemic. That's hit us all And just to kind of quickly give you the the punchline of the article the last couple of paragraphs it says that this whole kind of situation with the corona virus pandemic reveals an important truth back to our economies namely the extent to which Amazon has become so central and so powerful he named checks and other journalists at this point. Julia Carrie Wong and says that she's pointed out the Amazon in the US is beginning to behave more. Like a government than the trump administration itself. the author likens the hiring by Amazon of hundred thousand staff and their two dollar an hour. Pay Rice that they've given their staff to twenty-first-century version of F Diaz famous works Progress Administration In in the Great Depression the company sudden support for small businesses around Seattle headquarters so that they might live to serve Amazon. Another Day is. She says akin to a government stimulus package on its decision to stop accepting non essential products from third party. Saleh's who uses warehouses essentially Mites to government style market regulation so the pandemic will radically transform. The Industrial and commercial landscaper Western societies loss of companies. Large and small will go to the wall. No matter how fervent government promises of support our but when the smoke clears in some kind of normality returns a small number of corporations ones that have played a central role in keeping things going will emerge strengthened and more dominant and chief among them will be Amazon. What will then have to come to terms with is. The Amazon is becoming part of the critical infrastructure of Western states. So to perhaps a Google and Microsoft apple is more like a luxury good nice but not essential and the only reason for keeping facebook is what's up in which case one of the big questions to be answered a society's rebuild once the virus is finally being tamed will be. Really difficult one. How should Amazon be regulated? I just found that really interesting because it is absolutely true to to see that Amazon is now becoming so big. It is almost like a kind of like a small country or a government or something in itself and those points about some of the things that he's doing over in America. It's almost kind of taking the reins of of certain things that are traditionally the role of governments And it's just kind of really interesting to think whether this is one of the things that that will come out of this situation a kind of realization that some of these companies are now. I mean you. You just couldn't imagine being without the they have an enormous enormous amount of power and there was. There's been some really scary articles by Amazon. Those are a really terrifying one about Alexa. Outsourced data didn't send you because I know you've got one in your swell just about to say before we started this podcast. I asked Alexa to switch on my steady lights. I'm going to say it's you know she'll switch off okay and funnily enough it some. You know it's something that my half and I've been mindful of since we've been working at home out today because you can you can mute Alexa Stop Her from listening because she does should took speaking speaking about like she actually exist. It does records you. Obviously you can you can. You can look at all your review it you can. You can delete all but does transcribe everything that you've said. Kind of create. It creates micro con recordings of things that it thinks. You're saying to her. It's bizarre so yes an aunt..
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"Thank you sunny. So we've five really interesting challenging. Thought provoking presentations there. I think one of the themes that run through all five of them is the fact that you the audience student teachers are at the forefront of all this change in a way and the schools are going to be looking at unit very different way to how they might have looked at new entrance to the Profession. Impasse years which is kind of scary. I suppose so as a public service to you. We have got representatives from the government from consortia school senior leadership and academia. Who are now it for you to be thought provoking right back out boom with some questions. Now Emma's got one to kick us off to give you a little bit thinking time because it's always good to give people thinking. Time are Glamorous Assistant Lisa Fan. Who's got a microphone on the longest wire? I could find my office so anybody. Even the people in the naughty corner at the back potentially can ask a question As long as you wait for the wonderful to kind of get to you with the microphone but while we're while we're waiting for your brains to Kinda turnover. Emma has a question for the panel to kick us off. Thank you Tom. So I'm going to start by coming up this from a subject perspective. I am primarily a teacher but I'm I'm a drama teacher dramas specialist and actually historically. We've never had national curriculum so we have faced the big question of curriculum design day today and we have benefited from not having prescription but also we have climbed as a result of not having prescription. I'm just you touched on this sunny. In the end of your speech in relation to equity. I'm just wondering for our student teachers who are about to go into different settings and Nikki. You mentioned asking why I just wonder how we What advice we give them to give them the confidence to go into settings where perhaps there might be differences approached. There might be differences in terms of how quickly have slowly. They're responding to the curriculum reforms? It seems to me that there is a big weight on the shoulders of our of our avenue to qualified teachers in our OP. Starting teachers in the profession. So what advice would you give them to give them the confidence to go in and and tackle these these challenging circumstances? That isn't to anyone in particular I mean I would. I would say to be aware of the very range of situations in the schools that you'll be going into. There are some pioneer schools who've been curriculum pioneers and who've been heavily engaged in in one part of the curriculum design process may have experts in that particular area. There are other schools who've been professional learning pioneers. Who would have worked in that area? There are other schools who've not been pioneer schools but who've made a start on developing their vision for the curriculum there were other schools who are at this stage. Not so I would say my advice to you. I will be two to get really understanding of the school that you're going into and really get a feel for where they're at what stage on their journey there because every school is at a different stage of their journey so really understand the school that you're going into and working with build up relationships with the teachers says that you're in a position to be able to be a part of the team that is on that journey in that school And you're going in as a as a as a member and a valued member of the team in the departments and the groups that you're working in and you're with them as they're on the journey moving forward you might the only did I two. That is the when you go into your your jobs in in September. Don't be just kind of consumers. Don't just go into a school and think that the professional learning will be done to you and and that everything will just fall into place it. Won't YOU HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE. When you go into schools as I said it might it might talk professional learning inquiry. That can be a little niche. That can be where you are the experts on that senior leaders and teachers in school. We'll look to you for your expertise so I think that in the first instance might be an area where You know primary or secondary you really have an important role to play so I would. I am. Don't be shy. Don't go into schools and tell them where they're going wrong but don't be shy all so don't don't be afraid to to put forward your ideas. Don't be afraid to do a great job in your costumes and I make people want to come and see you. So Saint Joseph's is a relatively small school just a one form entry but some of the best practice I've seen has been from teachers in the first couple of years of their career and I'll happily send in more experienced teachers to go and see what's going on so the something that hasn't been mentioned at all so far this morning teacher agency A big part of this curriculum is is around each agency in around. You doing what you think is right for your students in your classes. You just keep doing that. Some people want to come and see what you're doing and hopefully will in from you too I think When I the very first thing and very I I showed up at the first school. I Todd in Cincinnati Ohio I was talking to a teacher and and I was being rather idealistic because I my purpose might motivation and teaching was was embedded within some pretty lofty ideals. like the for purposes are and the person turned to me. And said you think you're GONNA change these kids lives and I say I hope so. And he goes there just hillbillies with Afros and I stopped for a moment and my illusions of what I thought school and my colleagues and everything was shattered and changed because I went up against someone whom was like diametrically opposed to everything I was hoping to achieve as a teacher and school. So luckily though I had the luxury of being able to read Lots of books about the philosophies of education lots about the purpose and values and education. I had been able to set what I what my course was. My trajectory wasn't what I hope to achieve so I was firm my understanding of what I felt. My purpose was but also flexible so that I wasn't being rigid in my thinking but I could fall back on what I had read before and what I believed and I found allies and colleagues and comrades throughout the school. Who helped because survived those rougher spots and to kind of see kind of a more comprehensive approach that we as as a school are trying to achieve so I recommend That not only. Do you know your purpose but that you understand it and that you study and that you create your thesis about your teaching that you can defend that you can allow to be complemented by others. Thoughts added to but also that you can respond appropriately to things that you find challenging or that may be damaging in the school and to your pupils. It's time for someone to break out in the room. I I like to address the whole Pollen Column Williams Saqlain English Teacher Due to the uncertainty of qualifications moving forward On the Welsh I'm Jesse's let's say when compared to Scottish Irish or English qualifications will they be perhaps an initial disadvantage of value when applying to top universities like Oxford Cambridge? Nicholas Maw pittance you because I live within the gwent area on. I'm speaking specifically about pupils from trajano. Planet went as a whole all. They more advanced disadvantaged when applying to Oxford and Cambridge compared to more affluent areas. I know the process of universal application depends on levels. But she says he's taken to account as well Yeah so I I would. I would say firstly that we have got an independent regulator of qualifications in Wales Qualifications Wales. It is their job to leave the consultations on what the future of qualifications will look like The first one of those is out now. The next one is going to be out. I believe in the in the autumn which will be more of the specifics about the types of subjects and a number of options etc that that the qualifications will have That they are committed to ensuring that our qualifications are accepted and aren't treated equally. That is one of their fundamental principles. And that really is their their role as the regulator to ensure that the world whatever qualifications are adopted. Here are meet. The needs of learners are also universally recognised. I would say there are ready when you when you look at University applications. You look at admissions office universities except qualifications from all around the world they accept Scottish hires they accept the international back there except French. German Hong Kong diplomas they accept qualifications at the moment. From all around the world So it universities are not a not just accepting of a-levels so I would say. They used to a wide range of qualifications. What means for Wales though at the moment we don't know we don't you know until the court consultations happened until qualifications wells make the decisions about what qualifications are going to look like here. We don't know whether they're going to be very similar to to as they are now whether they're going to be different in any way that moments not being decided but it is fundamentally qualifications Wales purpose to ensure that they are Equally recognized and they have been working with US quite extensively in the development and designing the curriculum while through each of the rallies on as early the principles are not this what we are very very clever. Whatever qualification would look like? It'll be transferred about internationally and nationally recognized as it is even though we all keep juicy brand but archie says. He's art different from England for example numbered as graded so there is a divergence happening there but it comes back to the question about the Welsh. Gcc's in general they will be. There will be two nationally recognized and that is paramount. Importance of qualification wells when they offer the sweeter calls for any of the regulatory bodies then awarding bodies to work there after. But it's a good question. I know the daily Rag mentioned about the Consultation Document and so on so whilst maybe the consortium government might play things with a straight bat in an give an answer that might be a little bit generic. I'll just tell you straight from my point of view I think is quite straightforward really. I think all. Gcc's should be branded in the same way. I'm what I mean by. That is at the moment employers. Maybe then hired colleges and universities you can have from Wales. Let's say a plethora of different qualifications. Hey Jan dis what I did this. You could list them all. I think it might be wise that at a level or qualifications are given the GNC brand. So what I mean by. That is kids go to colleges They have a haven booty. Jesus they have a car mechanics so that when they come out of school at the age of sixteen and they say I've got ten. Gps's that's exactly what they have. They haven't got four. Gps's I'm one something else in two of something else at a higher level or lower level which can be quite confusing for some colleges for some employers of course that needs to be robust that needs to obviously ensure that across the board GCC's challenging and we're not dumbing down any of the qualifications. But I think in terms of any confusion in the system particularly later on them when you go to apply to universities and so on. It's absolutely clear that children in Wales. They have that set the qualifications. And there's no ambiguity. Right where are you going to send Lisa next I'm Scott Tireless. Pg SEE secondary drama. Student I kind of double question is so the first one is when going into school. A lot of approaches school will take is a carousel program to all different subjects. So what are your opinions on using Carcelle within your own schools within your own academic studies on? Then the second question would be when we look towards the new pedagogical style of inventively as we look towards the full call. Pepsi's as the car set itself actually crippling this approach because if we think about how we tried to teach about a topic and we gotta get into a set goal of they must learn this indepth knowledge of say drama where we look. Braxton of ASCII every kind of practitioner. How do we ensure the full corpses Gov our own subject Knowledge Kinda coexisting and Scott? Sorry to interrupt but speaking in practice we talking about a very limited amount of hours in..
"emma" Discussed on Emma
"Very much. Thank you compelling insights into your schools journey and we're going to be moving on now to our next panelists We'RE LOOKING FROM A SECONDARY PERSPECTIVE. Now and it's my pleasure to introduce you to Barry Crompton from stem. Well School in Paneth funk's an a big donkey to Emma for inviting me today. I'm coming at this from a from a secondary school perspective just to give you a brief background of of my experiences. It's been my job ready for the last five years at stumble right from the inception of the idea of successful futures. And the fact that Graham Donaldson Poodle all these ideas forward folder full purposes and so on the Welsh government in all the wisdom then decided that the best way forward with successful futures was to have pioneers schools and stumbled schools be one of those pioneer schools in terms of professional learning for the past. Five years. And it's been my job really to head that up and lead it from stumbled school Just to give you an idea of what I'm going to do today. I'm just going to go through some of the experiences in different in different trials. The school have done things that within this new curriculum that was published earlier in the week. Maybe your not aware of in fact maybe many schools in Wales on not aware of beyond just the text beyond just the curriculum that's being published the little nuances. That maybe are important. It should show to you that there are opportunities with the new curriculum but also that there are many many challenges so the fish challenge. I think is really to do with on Christy Williams said in a podcast when she when she published on twitter. We now need to take time. School shouldn't really go into this. Experience now rushing into changing their curricula in a secondary perspective totally reinventing the way schools work. In fact you may be aware in. Did you may be in certain schools. Where maybe they've got rid of old heads of department employed new heads of AOL's and that has led more recently to industrial action in some schools and so on so really forging ahead with something without thinking through kind of fortunately create some problems just to give you an example. You may be aware that when the criminals put together have these maddest statements. You have progression steps. You have descriptive learning well if you had an inexperienced or an ASS. Lt Team that haven't really been involved with the new curriculum. It'll non-pioneer school. They've really just waited until the new curriculum kind of lands on their desk while they may look at the headlines of the new curriculum on just make the crew decision that will there are six. What matters statements for the science and tech there are only three what matters statements for the expressive Arts Alley. Therefore that means just give twice as much time on the curriculum on the timetable for science than I do for expressive arts. That's just the way it's written down and of course that would go totally against the whole idea behind and the ethos behind the new curriculum one of the messages. That's that's hopefully going to come across very clearly is that there should be some kind of equality and patty across the alleys schools. Now that's easier said than done because again we've been sort of brought up over the last twenty years or so particularly in secondary with this idea that some subjects or maybe more important than others in terms of accountability in terms of measures the pressure on mass teaches English teachers science teachers with level two plus an coal subject indicate and all of these different measures. It's meant that curriculum has become a little bit skewed towards it and subjects and now with new curriculum this should be parity across that but in order for that to happen and this is where I think some of the little stories I might tell Mike. Resnick with you. One of the things we have to do is members of staff on the schools. Is that in order for this new curriculum. To Be Successful. We have to upskill staff at a huge part of the upskilling process is to do with professional learning and we have professional learning programming. That we're very proud of. We have one hundred twenty members of staff which again if you have primary experience at the moment you've just gone through Your First Placement One hundred twenty members of staff. It's it's a lot of people to make sure that upskilled within that process it's clear now. That inquiry is a really important part of the new curriculum on. This is a huge opportunity for you. You've just finished your first placements going to your second. Placements I'm GonNa scare you now in September. You will be starting your new jobs. Okay when the happens you're going to be in a really unique situation in Tim's have been quietly and in terms of professional learning. You will be the experts in your schools. That's what you're going through at the moment. This research informed practice and whilst that this moment in time you might be sick to death of assignments and juggling that with teaching and so on honestly when you go into schools you need to get into the professional learning programs. You need to offer your services the schools and say look. You're used to doing this. You know the best ways to choose the right question look at methodologies reading around subjects and all of those things because older teachers like myself. We did those kinds of things twenty years ago in between that time from being. Pge Yes there have been other opportunities but it is really embedded in my practice whereas for you the opportunity is it is embedded in your practice and you need to carry on now another really. They'll controversial but another challenge regarding the new curriculum is to do with subject specialism and of course again. I'm speaking to you. Maybe the reason why you've done a PC is because you love history. You love geography. You love biology. Whatever it might be on the field with the new curriculum is that specialism will no longer be that important as a historic myself. There's a very genuine fear that the humanities AOL will somewhat dilute my subject knowledge. I suddenly have to know a little bit about geography and Ari and bring lots and lots of things together. I'm not really bothered me. In in the beginning in fact we had a meeting just immediate as a lovely day actually with representatives from the Dutch government. We felt quite important in style that they chose to have little to school and have really frank discussions and the Dutch government wants to try KIRKUM reform. Just as we're trying in wells it didn't last very long a few months. And you probably don't know this but they are very very powerful guilds of teachers in Holland. So there's a guild of history teachers guild of geography teachers on when they put the initial proposals forward having similar curriculum. Now to us where you had the idea of humanities and an grouping subjects together that was as far as call those gills completely shocked down the ideas on the Dutch government just scrapped. The idea on they had to go back to basics on. They have to try again now. It's interesting the teachers in Wales mixed bag. Maybe it's not a mixed bag. There's a lot of criticism out there about this new curriculum. I think it depends on which school you're in you could. Well be in school now. You've just finished your first placement in school where they've really critical of the new curriculum. It's not going to work there. Still some people out there who genuinely think this will not come to fruition. Kristie Williams will lose her job. And we'll just go back to the way it was. They are genuinely people out there who think that so with these criticisms when you look on places like twitter and across social media platforms. It really is a difficult job for pioneers schools. Who are now given the remits of going out and making sure people are positive about in the new curriculum and to tell you about the stories and and the pitfalls and promise that they could be. It's really difficult for us to do that. Because of the way the media can work. It's one of those things where I think that's an opportunity for you as well when you go into interviews when you go now to look for new posts in that process make sure you you match yourself up with school. That really is positive about the new curriculum. If you can don't be one of those people who perhaps are Naysayers. The ones who say that. It can't work because if the majority of people say in the teacher profession. It's not going to work then. It won't work right. We have to give it a go and give it a try and as mentioned into your own in terms of outcomes and in terms of assessment. I just said the word. I'm really sorry but that would in secondary school. It's the reason why many secondary schools are perhaps not forging ahead with the new curriculum. They're scared that if they make big changes that when kids do and when they go on to a level if you experiment too much at key stage three years in school it's going to ultimately result is standards dropping and the unfortunate thing. Then we'll be that estim- will be on your back and so on but that's the kind of old school of thinking that's the way schools you know hopefully used to think a now we're going to start looking into this new horizon and this new way of thinking just to give you an example of how the new curriculum might work. My boy is in your seven. He definitely wasn't going to come to Donald School. I can't think of anything worse for him. Blessed for me to teach him so he goes to another school in the Vale of the Morgan and they've actually taken the decision. They are a pioneer school as well to trial in your Savon a humanities approach now obviously being a historian and in stom- Well. We definitely have made that decision yet. We are sticking without traditional subjects and no big decisions to be made but it was. It was really difficult for me in the past couple of months to see how it goes as a dad. Of course she'd always think well if it doesn't work for him and he's not a good story and and he's not really good things. I'd love him to be good at. How would I feel about that? The only thing I will say it's been really positive I've had discussions with with my son. The I'm convinced other year seven students in my school in particular may not of had. I won't bore you with it but when I ask my eleven year old cell about the black death and try to trick him by saying what are the positives of the black death for him to have a discussion about it at the tell me about economic situation and how labor markets changes on..
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"Someone makes meaningful connections sister Brady useful tool not only in encouraging? y'All colonist to discuss. Listen to what it is that they're learning about but also to examine what makes for healthy Houthi discussion and debate so I would urge you to go out there and do some more reading research on the harkness model and maybe tried out in your practice. And what is that book with the Post. It note sticking out just read. This is something interesting because I am going to talk about a chapter from this breaker. But it is transformed teaching and learning through talk. The ORSI imperative by Amy Gone and Alice Stott on Q.. Okay all right goods. Oh we've got to do the twelve days of Christmas left. Okay Tom it's you it's your last one and it's your last setting zinc to try. Okay now this was a late addition to my list and I I found to be honest. I just love the name of if this thing I would say it's a vintage Tom. Contribution I this year I would like just to think something to try. We have all been in a situation. I'm sure in school goo where we've had somebody go off on. I don't know long-term sake maternity or just leave and go to another job very unexpectedly or something like that and it be a pain in the neck because we end up picking up all the pieces so I would like to introduce to you. Listeners the concept and this is not when I made it myself. She's genuinely the name of this. The concept of the bus factor. Okay so the bus factor factor is the name given to the concepts of how many people in in your project it would take to hit by a bus before your project ran into serious serious trouble double and for those of us. I guess who work in particularly small departments like musical drama and it may be that we often wrestle with the bus factor. But I wouldn't mind betting that actually even those larger departments like English Maths and science have probably it got some bits of their day to day operations that are in danger of having a very low. Bus Factor. Yeah ask namely the fact that if a person in your school a particular person in your school gets hit by the metaphorical bus. You are going to be absolutely stuffed. Yeah and it's just one of those things that because we're all very busy and everybody's working at ninety miles an hour sometimes even when you know. Somebody's leaving because notice periods in school archie quite long. You've normally gone least six weeks. Usually warning that somebody's about to go. It still can sometimes by very hard once. They've gone because is he didn't really get time to work out that they were the only person that knew a particular thing. Will they have the only copy of something or you know they. They had whatever it may be so. I'm just going to suggest listeners. That perhaps if we are making a new year's resolution one of them might be as a department or as a team to just go governor. Look at all your bits and bobs in your work and just check that. There's nothing that that's going to factor of one. I mean this podcast. The factor of one of the keys to. It's a very good point very good point. That's the reason why I need to learn. Then the the magical off of add to sing. Yeah so yeah I am. I just lift the name. I think it's a brilliantly kind of brutal mainframe that actually we've all been there. We've all had a complete nightmare to pick up because somebody's been hit by the metaphorical bus. Yeah and I suppose you've got to ask yourself the if it has a factor of one then are you taking too much on yourself. Yes and actually. Let's be honest some of US spring upon ourselves because we can be terribly kind of proprietorial about things. We don't actually like to share things we WANNA keep. Our projects is close to our chest. You know whatever it may be but actually it works both ways because the people who are left behind if you do go off on the sick or maternity or something up complete nightmare but your potentially going to get badgered as well. After you've gone people are going to be trying to get in touch with you and say whereas this. What's the password for that? So how did you do this. Can I ask a S- probably better to raise your best factor bit so that you can go off on the SACO maternity or oft about new job without baggage car. Following you long into the future is making me think actually by the significance of of colleagues such as teaching assistants. You know really really building good relationships with them and enfranchising damn. I am within the process of your planning and you know so that if you were off and there was a cover assistant and actually that ta knows how you row and knows how things go down in your classroom so if kids decide you know to Play differently whilst the cat is way. Then you know it's it's it's it's worth kind of building. Not Bus factor making a little bit higher. Yeah and it doesn't always involve having to sit down and explain it all to them. You know just need to leave. Things suitably documented. You know things when you head maybe need to go down on paper or on the computer and people know where to find it. Brilliant wonder we go the bus factor the Tom Wellbeing leverage the fact that I know some anti gravity taken from yeah guilt. Well if you're still with us as well Dave actually be going for a while. uh-huh oh goodness okay right my something interesting I'm Gonna I'm Gonna I'm GonNa pair it right back okay and I'm I'm gonNA hopefully crystallized with one quotes and then I'm GonNa give you a something interesting to read the back of it. So this is a quote boot That I found on somebody's blog. The blog is learning power approach blog by Becky Calzon And in in her blog She's advocating the importance of Orsi in the classroom. It's a quote by Stephen Hawking. I'm GONNA and read t I and I'm going to tell you about the book I've been reading. So FA millions of years mankind lived just like the animals then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk and we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas enabling human beings things to work together to build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking and its greatest failures by not talking. It doesn't have to be like this. Greatest hopes could become reality in the future with technology at our disposal the possibilities are unbounded. All we need I need to do is to make sure we keep talking. So that is a nice kind of opener an another nod to science to A real kind of wave a revolution in making ORSI hot on the agenda in schools. And it's the voice twenty one agenda which comes out of school twenty one which is a a London school to read to you about the two authors very short passage on the back of this book the book if you forgot from Iran is transformed teaching learning through talk the Orsi imperative amy. Gaunt and allies stopped lead teaching and learning voice. twenty-one a charity dedicated to raising the status of or see in schools across the UK and worldwide. They've supported two thousand teachers and hundreds of schools across the UK to embrace Orsi in their pedagogy and the curriculum. And this book is really you use a friendly practical Acts position of how to develop learning through through talk and learning to talk simultaneously. I'll just read you. A tiny little passage to the end so speaking skills must be taught rather than than simply caught by a fortunate few although as teaches we cannot control. The amount of language students arrive at school with or what happens beyond the school gates to change range. This we do have control over. What happens in our classrooms? The power to create language rich classrooms filled with talk is in our hands They make a very very important case for why overseas important but they say in this book or see is understood is both learning to talk undermining funding through. Talk it through talk that students use their collective thinking power to build and revise their understanding negotiate complex ideas and problem solve off. This could be driven through interactions with peers or with teachers. Who through their questioning? Guide students to engage the higher order thinking and it says the best or received a teaching learning takes place when students are both learning through and to talk this is when students in negotiating and developing their subject knowledge and understanding through through talk which has been setup scaffold it in such a way that they are also learning. The skills needed to talk effectively and that Hawkeness hawkeness muddled I talk to you about early. One is advocated in this book as one of many many strategies to to help to teach our peoples to talk so giving them redeclared structures not destructors for speaking but also structures for being good listeners. As well so they really really highly recommend that you that you get that book. Do you like that quote about the importance of talking and gives us permission to carry on podcast in. I think it doesn't even if the listener at this stage is going shut up a wonderful life. It's a wholesome Christmas special through this one we were. We were very light to very wholesome this year permission to be Seats Suitably slapdash when it comes to the eastern Sir. I'm going to be guests sacked. Something I bring to the I suspect really well. I hope some of that has been useful and interesting or maybe just the white noise in the background while you drink. Yeah it's been a lovely year. Happy Christmas yes. Oh we should probably say well. We've got some really great great episodes coming up in the new year. We've got a lovely colleague. Jody analysts is becoming a on to talk about coaching and mentoring. We've got professor Sir. David James Professor of education at Cardiff University's can be talking to us about research informed practice. And we've got the wonderful ladies Finola and Jane of Impact Wales Royalty. Oh yes so Please continue to subscribe been to download our APP zoos and have a lesson that three really great episodes we've got coming up in the new year bring more throughout the year. Have a lovely Christmas Christmas. Christmas gift of Coupla weeks of peace from me beckons to and have a lovely New Year's eve celebrations nations as well. Yes we'll be back on the tenth of January off Usual Service but until then have a wonderful festive season arrest arrest and enjoy not teaching and that was Erin. Tom's Christmas podcast presented by MFA..
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"The case of semantic gravity if we put something in a specific context is easier to understand something that's easy so strong semantic gravity. It's easy easy and if it has week semantic gravity it means we understand it D- contextualized which is harder so strong is easy. The week is hard in semantic gravity so the example. I think one of the examples that we use drum you talk about. This was the idea of knowing about the battle of Hastings. For example the history teacher or you know something to do the Second World War II by a very specific contextual thing or to go right down the other end of the scale war thing. I mean that's a that's a massive thing. It's it's quite deacon text utilized. It's hard to understand understand and I suppose if you know the more you know about war so the weaker the semantic gravity so therefore the harder as the more you know about war the I suppose the deeper you go when it has a stronger semantic property fifty so you can look at the battle of hastings in a whole new way. Yeah and the more you can transfer things. I guess to new and unfamiliar things so as a teacher. We're not going to start by saying hey kids. We're going to learn about war today because that's really hard we're gonNA start with specific content student. Examples semantic density works a slightly different way round semantic density is in how many ways thing is understood in different connections so the example. We we use these ample gold. Didn't we have the things that we were looking at. In the context of science we look at in the context of science initially. And we said Okay you you could understand gold in just one way which is a shiny metal or if you're doing science you could understand too in terms of where it sits on the periodic table or you know what kind of and and structure it has a molecular structure or you could understand it in terms of its melting point or you know it's reactivity or something like that you start understanding gold Connecting it in a lot of different ways says semantically dance yet you become more semantically dense and that gets harder so it's going the other way round the more dense you get. The harder is because you understand the thing in more different ways and we actually took gold. Then didn't we took out science and we said the gold while actually if you're in if you're in sports if you win gold means you came. I if you talk about gold you know it's got got connections with being rich ch- it's kind of got connections. Maybe being slightly tastelessly rich go looking chain. Yeah exactly You know gold suddenly has an awful lot more understandings. Understand it in an awful lot of different ways and as a teacher. You've you've probably got to isolate it initially thought to give it You know far fewer connections. So you're GONNA you're going to remove all of its connections and give them much week.. Semantic density and only issue pupils get older more experienced in the world and understanding of the kind of metaphorical associations with things and you know more complicated implicated scientific associations with gold will start to make sense in a whole lot of different ways and connect to load rather different things and it semantic density will become stronger longer. So what is the point of this. I hear you ask well what this article goes on to do as he goes on to visualize the process by which teachers take hake these complicated things and make them accessible to pupils so it talks about the way that we will take a thing and initially we will present it to pupils who's with strong semantic gravity and week semantic density so we will put it in context and we will forget about those other meanings. We're just give it a meaning so that people can get it but we will then start to so we'll take the thing and we will make it simple and it's got loads of diagrams. It calls them escalators. You know you start off with it super complicated and decontextualize as teachers we kind of move down the escalator of difficulty. Not doing exactly that but then it makes the point that if we just do that with a Lotta things. We're not doing the pupils any favors because they then just understand a load things in separate context next unconnected transfer exactly and so this author Maton goes out into a series of lessons and watches as teachers. Take these things make them easy easy and then crucially repack them re kind of connect them to the rest of the world start kind of weakening the need for context so the people can start making things transferable and start making connections and of course in Donaldson World we talk about powerful connections so this is really the important and so so the wave this sort of diagram. Instead of just coming all the way downwards it comes downwards and then Carter changes direction starts going up puts again. So it's just a really nice way of visualizing a thing that we all do by instinct and giving it names and explaining why we do it and explaining that maybe we we do in different ways and in different directions in different shapes in different subjects on the rain is pouring down so yeah uh-huh not a festive side of snow falling rain outside Directly Bavaro desk here which has to leak so. I hope it doesn't so I'm just recommending recommending that as a nice example of an article that puts into words something that we'll do every day without thinking about it so that we can maybe think about artistic or explicitly. I think it's really great win. And it really kind of opens your eyes when we know this new got this kind of conceptual frame. I'm for it the theory behind it. You see it more more visibly everywhere. I I was on a school at Training Day on our school on our Of course the other day and student teacher was talking about a lesson that they had observed of their peers in different subject discipline and they describe is this lesson. Particular lesson was a geography lesson that was about aging populations and what the teacher done is as the starter. They looked at the case of an old person. and Lt Person It was like a case. Study Dawson pupils. You know how difficult their life be when they're when they're at this age h what might they need to support them. Before the teacher went onto zoom out and look at aging populations as a thing you know look impact look hurt consequences et cetera. And so you know hearing that tail just made me think there it is there. It is right there. Good to make it explicit because maybe we are sometimes guilty of just leaving them at the bottom of the escalator not repacking because repack difficult is good to it just sort of know that so that we can watch ourselves and check ourselves and make sure we do that all important thing lovely. Well done thank you. You're T- The two boys that based off of you okay. Oh you're not gonNA believe this random. It's you again on. It's something interesting. Dang that's okay because I've just taken a big swig of coffee. Not Why any no no. No it's coffee is coffee vice chancellor on his schedule it is are transparent. Mark those who could be in there all right so this is something interesting to me again. Is there Okay and I. I'm getting a bit SCIENC- here I think because I'm going I want to talk about something that happened thirty years ago this February. Oh yeah which is. That's the one of the voyager spacecraft at turned camera back at the earth as it left the solar system and took a picture of the earth and this has become an extremely famous picture and it is a picture I was aware of found it. It's starting to a little bit more. As as we approach the thirtieth anniversary taking of this picture I was aware of the picture but I wasn't aware of a lovely quote that came with it. That just Kinda makes us think a little bit so if you are sitting with your your tyrannical device in front of you listeners. You may be fire at Mr Google at this point and safe you can find the Pale blue dot photo. It's simply known as the Pale. Blue Dot photo and to save Emma the trouble. I'm going to show her picture of the Pope in you can see the earth. Wow on it's it's less than one pixel on this picture because for each was you know billions of miles over three billion miles away from us by the point that it took took this picture and you you can see it. It's just sort of caught in a in a bit of class from the sun and it's this tiny tiny Pale blue dot which which I knew out Out But I didn't know that that there was a quote. The went with it from a talk that was given by again. I'm not entirely sure how to pronounce the Call Sagan or saga and I'm sure but he gave a talk about this picture and I just thought that at this moment of pause in the year we could just have a little think about this and he says look again at that adult. That's here that's home. That's us on it. Everyone you love everyone you know everyone you ever heard of. Every human being who ever was lift out that lives every teacher of morals every corrupt politician every superstar every supreme leader every saint and sinner in the history of our species. He's lived there on a motive dust suspended in a sunbeam. Wow think if the rivers of blood spilled by those generals and emperors so that in Glorious Oreo triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of adult are imagined. self-importance the delusion that we have some privileged position position in the universe challenged by this point of Pale life to me. It underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another and to preserve and cherish arish the Pale blue dot the only home we've ever known top and maybe you know quite apart from all the all the climate change stuff that's going on at the moment in the news actually just from a really kind of individual personal point of view. It's a great reminder when we believe that it's you know today's crisis is all encompassing and you know or maybe that what we do is is super important that maybe it's not really. ooh That's great when it just made me think about anyone planning assemblies. Oh if you cheat agree might need some really nice discussion. Yeah it might so you could use it for that and you could just use it to guess that's a perspective yeah we were talking about semantic gravity you. You seem to the entire. Yeah exactly but she doesn't do us good sometimes because I think we do bound up in in these crises of our lives and our work sometimes so just remember everything that's ever been even life on a dot. It tastes a fraction of a pixel SCIENC- feel ozzy's fields this too leslie thank you for that. Okay right it's me break just fish McAfee. It's me and it's something to try okay. Okay and this. Something try was inspired by a thread. That was kicked off on twitter by Tom. Bennett and for those as I. Don't follow Tom Bennett. He is founder of Research Ed He's behavioral advisor to the government in England and and many other things and first and foremost to teach He is many other and he he sent out quite an interesting Question into the twitter sphere and I shall read to you now on some of the things that came out of said question so hive mind colon. What is the best literacy intervention? A teacher slash school can make for year eleven set in January for the improvement of a wide range of subjects..
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"Hello and welcome back to Amarin. Tom's PG podcast. We are very nearly at Christmas. We are and we are very pleased as to welcome a very new guest to olive leaf. PODCAST studio Bethune Rowlands. Welcome thank you very much. Would you like to just tell our listeners. Business a little bit about who you are. You are colleague got caught a little bit about what you do before we talk about your research case. So I'm a lecture here Cardiff Matt's I teach on the be a primary education with cute. Es Course I do it through the Welsh medium and with English medium. I also like to he he with. PG Primary Amputee Secondary. I used to be a teacher teacher for twenty years. And then I worked in University of South Wales before coming here to Cardiff and would it be fair to say that you are an early career researcher. I'm very early. Career researcher researched in my twenty s of being a primary teacher. I hadn't hadn't really in that role. I don't start to do research once I started in the university so I've been in the last two years active researcher. John Thank you very much and I think is important to say that we have an award winner in our midst. We're borrowing down to you wit. It is just such an accolade given what you've said about how how new to the world of research you are. So I'm I'm really excited to interview along with my lovely talk today about your research because you one and I'm GonNa get this route you with a joint winner of the British Educational Research. Associations Post boost appraised one thousand nine hundred and nine on your work entitled raising awareness of Dyscalculia. Did I say that rats correct within the educational setting tag so Beira. Yeah you a question straight off. The Bat are moving to you. Well I was just thinking because we are I guess gas quite early career researchers as well and we've been to the bees conference British Educational Studies Association and they are lovely. We Love Bees. Incredibly Nice US barrer though they are the kind of you know. They're the big league in our kind of will the British Education Research Association. They write the ethical guidelines that we all follow when we're doing doing educational research. The words on the grapevine is the it can be quite intimidating going to bear and presenting so just in case we fancy taken GonNa step up the ladder. How did you find presented at the mighty beer field? I conference this is my first ever conference so that You know it was. I hadn't I didn't know what to expect so sometimes listen carefully ignorant about it so when I competed I was assed part of my work for the postgraduate certificate in higher education I researched into dyscalculia and finish this work and it came at the time when you're to submit admits abstract to to be so I decided I will have give it a go and many of my colleagues at university South Wales at the time decided to do the same. I'm I'm was obviously delighted to find. Abstract was successful so I went out to create the poster and a little bit may be naive. Wasn't sure but I've never been translated this before to know what to expect and we went and we had absolutely fantastic time. They were very welcoming when we arrived. We were given stick with quite large stickers. We knew ten people. Also welcome you to to be I'd like to have Bacon Rolls No is very good so we saw with my presentation. I have to be they for two hour hour slots for people to become talk me about my project. Everybody was so welcoming. They really interested in the subject. They wanted to know more about it. on it was fantastic. There was nobody wanted to catch you out or be nasty and I was very fortunate. Many of my colleagues also were presenting at bureau so I went to their presentations nations as well and everybody was listening. You know some some vagrant questions but there was nobody there was very intimidating or nothing so they were fabulous fair-play they play sometimes. Naive not is just a good thing I think I think that's what I hopped on when I said to. Emma shall we make it podcast. I remember that you have no idea. No the idea. Now that's really reassuring to hear really reassuring and I guess before you tell us about your award-winning research. The first thing that we and I'm sure our listeners. I would really like to know is what as Dyscalculia. Hey So dyscalculia summarized is dyslexia Assia in maths. And it's not very well recognized or understood may be in the profession as maybe dyslexia is so research has proven proven that. There's so many children we understand what dyslexia is. But they just don't know the signs of a of identifying children with dyscalculia. Okay unlovely Segue to my next question how would we. And I'm going to say adults as well as as teaches working with with people's how would would we recognize identify this lifelong condition in ourselves in our people's so the key things you would be looking at really as the the the the as dyscalculia is a calculating so the inability under the quite being able to calculate and children children can't count very well the continually. It's ghetto point. Where they they? They'll get to ten eleven twelve. Stop up they won't show what's coming next then need support all the time they get directional confusion. So what you'll find is that children and I'm looking at a clock quarter past and quarter to the whole thing. They cannot identify the differences between the two. So it started. I I identified it from my daughter was very poor maths and I couldn't understand why she she. She wasn't really progressing as she. You should be doing and I was a teacher time and I must been teaching for about fourteen years and I remember one of my friends came to me and she said to me I you know. Maybe she's got dyscalculia. Oh cool and I remember. At that time. I was being in the freshman fourteen years and I didn't know what it was and from that point I knew I needed to research and help my own daughter so through that I really wanted to find out how I can help her because she she has difficulties with time turn the time them with money and place value is terrible and oversee the key things you want to teach. Your children is many to tell the time and times table table. She just could not recall. The memory retention is terrible. Can't recall timetable. And it is like the best I can describe it. Is Somebody somebody taking the hard drive out of computer and just taking place. You've taught something you've learned that you've given them strategies you've helped them. They've got it that day he go back the next day and it's like the heart driver's gone and and they've got to start again so it's changing the strategies of how we teach somebody to be able to get them to understand. You know the how to do master you break it down tables. For example with two times six is twelve and then just look patterns for example maybe four times six two and then look at the doubling of it and just those those key facts before going into anything else maybe relating thing it things but So that's how I started really the GENU- research in Dyscalculia and you mentioned in your research that very few teachers a train to work in this field and a real discrepancy between our our understanding recognition of Dyslexia In comparison with this Cockatiel. Why did you suspect this is? This is like a training lack awareness. I think at the moment in the lack of funding and in research at the moment in this area many researchers say say themselves you know That is time that Julia caught up with dyslexia. In you know that we do need to raise awareness. I think anybody. DT notice lex serious. I think the majority of would acknowledge that but when it comes to discuss cooler I don't think we do. And there's a lack of research untimeliness. It's at the moment and so really. I wanted to raise awareness from a personal perspective of my daughter who who really finds it difficult in maths and would benefit from the strategies and supporting children in multi. Sensory approach is really teach in the mud sense approaches. And the you know the same way as we would we dissect children's with wanted to raise awareness for my research work and guess end to your research so before we talk about the findings from your day and I really like to ask a bit more as well about multi sensory teaching purchase but will come to that in a moment. Tell us about your study. who was involved? What was your methodology? So how did you go about gathering data. I just kind of the nuts and bolts of that no problem well and they started the poster presentation what I did. I did this with students. I was working with. I wanted to keep it. My my main aim was to raise awareness with with the students within the university without Taito and so when they went out the two cases that they actually became more aware of what is this calculation identified children and how to support them and these were sorry gypsy these were primary shootouts. That's correct yeah. So they'll be primaries that these with Cutie as they were in level five's the second year and so I went about first of all I did a whole cohort lecture and I started the lecture really and I put a questionnaire out and I just popped it out tonight said Gino. You know I discussed earlier is have been identified in a one year out on placement did any children with children diagnosed and it came came back. There's quite shocking. Hotly any of the students at ever heard of the word they didn't know what it was so it was saying we went about then giving giving the lecture materials giving them ideas given approaches to help them to support their children when they go out to schools and then at the end then I would I asked them. You know from from the Tito's tight introduced to them what they use it in the classroom. And they were all under center them said they would put quite compelling starts he said a staggering fifty one percent scored zero zero be no knowledge of Dyscalculia and the remaining forty nine percents going between one and five so very brief understand very brief. She's quite shocking. As I you know everything that you in your hunch. That's right right and then I asked the students as well is when they were out on their placements. How many of the children were actually diagnosed with? Lee's discount Julia. I think one child was identified at the time of being identified with Dyscalculia. Yeah so the triangulating those stocks stocks. And you just go. Wow this is this is significant. I studied food then for my air may and found we went to a specialist dyslexia centre thirty of the children. All have specific needs in dyslexia quite severe to.
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"Okay just before the music rolls on this one we're going to have a bit of a podcast I and put an and overcome clear stand emon Tom's PG podcast and I'm hoping we're hoping that you feel very And our tradition now is to do something a little bit lighter for the holidays which gave lots of food for thought and you would just as excited as we were in that coffee shop bit over-excited also a coffee was what I'd have sugar and Caffeine Standard Diet is an and so the teachers out there back relaxed session a little bit shorter the normal and we're going to bring you ends at at them what part so Tommy you're going to kick us off I am so yes we're just Easter time we did a blogger tweets an story spurs this counts as a blog it's a regular column he's standing in for our normal wellbeing slot yeah so something Russian okay on the subheading is the effects of this technique are extraordinary so dates to in one thousand nine hundred seventy four but judging from the media and many people I know it's the official paralysis leaving her unable to complete basic chores so this idea that stare in our to do list in a panic and I think we can all kind what to do and you really want to be productive in that PPA time but you kind of see any other and better suited to this era era of exhaustion and overwhelm Ban yes Japan we salute you Japan we do we're GonNa go to an international conference era think an excuse to go over then you add no further tasks to your plate until you finished at least one arranged in columns each task moves from the To-do call him to doing has the effects are extraordinary by limiting work in progress. You feel your finite capacity what's new job is one of your task it'll jammed things up for months wow yes USC before embarking on the next commitment become addictive a pattern and eventually a habit and I can relate to that they're all they're all edge I'm not even GONNA look at my to do list and tell two hundred that's an impossible request your only options are to choose consciously which operating lead down to Earth engagement with how things really are and the truth is be doing three but he's right if you don't consciously pick the three you're going to be working on then limited amount of things that you physically can do so you might feel like you need to do them all but anyway that might be one to think about decide three things you're going to do park everything else and don't program here at Cardiff met the other week it was the strategy four the spectrum of the half and lo and behold in the world of engineering once again this is a space for Kanban board we do then fantastic okay well my contribution this talked in the past about homework and homework that are useful eight which comes from Miss K. p. ten at Miss Look Worm and crafty type and I think she's she's based in the West Midlands in England that's a conversation for another day okay so what she posted Oh lovely happy weekend all and then she's put Hashtag aim for excellence it all the hashtags now let me describe what's in the picture these are Charles the first I should be including divine right of kings the great chain of being oh well was your child able to explain what they've been learning about and did you learn I was a child was able to tell me about the great chain of being the IT started to describe it and he took over and gave me a detailed oh practice homework a really helpful learners they didn't take too much time yes to find out something they have to respond it it's just I just thought it was a really nice exceptions in areas to return back to with help the parents I love that one of the things you know the parents say Oh what did you do in school today earn much and actually the parents really want to know what's going just found the binding them into the whole process made the whole thing feel a lot better than they used to child who's in the home and you can potentially be someone to help with homework a sub teacher saying how good it was to to write letters home when pupils have been good I me that letter home I said Yeah Nice let me see yeah my parents saw letter with the school standpoint really what's know when they've been good as well as what they've been bad there we go something to try show is the Washington Post it was definitely an American news paper websites take this is going to really annoy you but it it's a bit like my you know the pitfalls of the classroom it's GonNa.
"emma" Discussed on Emma
"And grapple with the new curriculum might be prey of private companies giving quick-fix solutions to curriculum design so what would channel being and therefore the whole notion of being am reception we're wanting to engage with with with evidence being reflective about your place I think all of that just reinforces the vital importance of professional learning the vital importance of having the kind of community and the wider world so that what we do is to ensure that those four purposes which are the driver the the I suppose the danger at this time is that schools and teachers don't have that confidence who don't have space that was another kind of keen theme and tying else teaching profession owns change a teaching profession that sees being relevant as being integral to being depart of their profession who are constantly asking themselves questions about about the extent to which they are continuing what they're doing is continuing to serve children well techs within which throws foolish prophecies are given life changes the prophecies remain but the context changes and having reflective teachers no but it's important that the that the resources made available to schools are authentic in relation to the nature of reforms accompany taken we stop and then do something dramatic so we need to have a teaching profession that owns change is not driven by somebody if if people feel unsure on Saturn then the loop for for things for answers are going to help them that the they've been told to do so that's an is about the nature of the confidence and capacity of the of the profession we need to build up right from the it when we think about the emerging leadership culture in in Welsh education is very important part of leadership in the system again is is to going to answer all of their problems and that applies to the nature of of of what it means to be a professional and also I think that ova culture professional learning culture of collaboration amongst teachers which allows them to very critical users of whatever's in practice working with colleagues to help reflect on practice more generally Being attuned to developments taking place in the White House your response to those concerns and what vice would you give to teach us you could be the prey of companies Yeah I think I think that's legitimate officials and whilst government and elsewhere and you'll you'll begin to heal the slight change in and vocabulary because I I've gone yes ensuring despite that equity imperative experience in parity of quality for the pupils all across such a diverse and yet coverage not that that climate and we we don't want to have of school leaders informally ship positions who are looking for the magic bullet Oh country yeah the the basic principle is equity doesn't mean uniformity in fact equity means being able to marshal apples you took around Wales and discovered the kind of the diversity that geographic diversity of isolation of some parts of the country and I'm I guess there's all the uncertainty and not become from published as good stuff comes published as well it's not so good stuff so it's it's it's not it's not socially should be affordable square bulk so every time the delivery of implementation is used as money's supposed to go in the box and I prefer you can talk about a whole lot different so I think sometimes the Komo very naive you that you know having having something from the center that is simply rules subsidiarity the contents the concept of a locally authentic curriculum will have at least partially sprung from those travels how do you see the also sufficient agency school Evelyn a teacher level to be able to think that through in the context of the children are in that school each and consider by the way things might be done differently that's just built into the way in which the probation does things so it's why one of the things in discussions are had with with eight there's an obligation to make sure that children are not late day and therefore the needs to be a a sufficiently coherent framework to ensure that there is a consistent understanding of what beautification looks like what good pedagogy looks like the support of the not for that to to happen appoint which a new teacher cross actual university to begin that journey which we'll Lasso Great Point Asi which I Institute of Education in Singapore Singpore's move from a fairly low ranking education system to one which Pisa rank as the best in the world but what he made clear okay this is probably the most controversial questions so set up my still before I ask so we recently attended a talk by professor packed in from the by chance it's just the happenstance of the of the local circumstance what I think this reform is trying to do is to establish those Oh class education system big question well I know Paktiya very well he and I sat together on an international currency we'll we'll solve all their problems and the snake oil salesman you alluded into in one of your earlier answers to the last week a very very passionate commitment to the teacher and that was the big message I think that packed tea is is it over magic bullets set off at the very very critical and skeptical and cynical but skeptical in relation to two things that they are told awfully like what we're doing in Singapore saw the the consonants between the kind that aspirations they had for the people in Singapore and the aspiration such are coming through convinced everyone and these were initially held up as a blueprint for whilst reforms so how long do you think it will take for whales to be seen internationally as having at the start of his keynote speeches that it's been hard fifty year process reports from Scotland that curriculum for excellence reforms some nationally prescribed curriculum for US equity and just simply wrong thank you across the country somehow or other addresses the kind of issue that you're talking about and but actually I think that the versus true all that does is produce some Italians you get a protest Chinese supposed to what comes from the sentence ends up in the classroom is dramatically different so you actually do have diversity but diversity common common sense of purpose the will be In the curriculum frameworks there there will be clear expectations legislation that will go through he's with the is is realization I think the job professional estimate the aspiration reality not to implement something back to our primary audience all our audience but our primary audience is either student teachers or early career teachers and when the new curriculum is sitting across is partly it's a privilege to be a teacher and there's a huge responsibility goes with that he talks about paying forward as a freeze he a seven are all going in the direction so what wheels is doing I think is responding to the same kind of of thinking and precious servcies expertise addresses the needs that are in front of you and the lows whatever those needs are to be responded to musk period over which these forms not to have to take root I think the the timescale that that has been set for the forms some people have to D- benefit in the same way and I think part of his argument is not why you shouldn't resist change because if people in the past resisted chain taking things forward so we're not implementing a blueprint from anywhere this is this is this is made in Wales and this is right for well filter settling is measured I think in the past the temptation of being tried to see this is this is good on grit and it would have been done in a very the Senate next year will donate frame of expectation so it it's not free for all it's not it's not you know just Scotland's not a blueprint for this reform the reform that took place in Scotland there from the to place in Singapore reforms that took place in Australia Melvin Declaration back in two thousand vegetal child that's in that school and and the needs of that community in that ten in that context so I think those that believe that somehow or other we wouldn't have the kind of quality education which we have just know this was an obligation to embrace change robin not not resisted so finally implemented in schools in two thousand twenty two people that we currently teaching we'll be in the third year in I to reforms and a whole range of countries across the world but I believe wheels has has has land from previous experience and is now able to be a leader in terms of about two thousand and five onwards and interestingly one of the things he said to me when he looks at some stuff that's happening here he said all that in terms of of timescale I think I mean actually the kind of the most the the kind of significant developments in Singapore took place as you know that that all of us have benefited from what of teachers in the past did an teacher's responsibility to pay forward to the right so this is a measured reform measure piece the former is just in parenthesis one thing you said the I don't agree with that is which advises the First Minister of Scotland and Iceland before these four pack t giving I suspect with a similar talk to colleagues in Scotland in a society and economy at the moment is such that we cannot afford to have educational change as being every ten to fifteen years eighteen kill I think the fact successful futures published in Two Thousand Fifteen two thousand twenty five before the qualification place so that's the way it ten year Pedia pawtucket
"emma" Discussed on Emma
"The best and the much more meaningful planning and thought that goes into making sure that both disciplines gaffer crack of the whip and when people don't quite get the difference between those two things. I think that's a great way to kind of show the difference absolutely assuming onto our final category catch grateful common concept which actually we were talking about. We had a bit of a taxonomy that emerged later. We've also talked about a spectrum. We would probably per category foreign three on even grinding in terms of how meaningful the connections they can. They can facilitate we put the peripheral rule one that the arts being used right at the bottom we put the hit and hope in the middle and these last two we couldn't really choose between them in terms of their meaningfulness so we put. I'm sorry by side at the top we did so common concept is people's learning about a concept which is shared between more than one discipline so I suppose there already you've got to engage with the subject teacher within the opposite discipline opposite disciplines in order to seek out what that common concept might be they overcome difficulties bay the pupils overcome difficulties misconceptions regarding the concept in one discipline by using their understanding at the concept in another this works equally well in either direction is really useful. If we give you a concrete example of this the involves English this comes directly from one of the papers that we read and this is where pupils were investigating the concept so the common concept of composition by using a double page spread in notebooks they look at composition in writing and composition in drawing people's make progress in composition in one medium in order to improve their understanding of the skills and competition in the other and the impact was that progress was made in both disciplines because pupils could use the individual individual strengths to improve the weakened and it was quite independent their decision about when to go to the opposite page so they might might be having trouble with the writing choose to work a little bit more on a on the drawing and that might unlock something that might then intern have an impact impact on their on their writing composition on the article used a really nice metaphor didn't in the metaphor translation seeing it as a process of translation backwards and forwards which was a nice one to think about it was actually because it talks about translation when we're trying to translate from one language to another sometimes there is no word it. Oh there is so you have to come up with something new. There's something unknown unknowns innovation kind of comes in when and you find that there isn't a word in this language that translates directly to this word in his language is I mean not that example is really powerful ofo with me because I've never thought of doing that as an English teacher looking at composition from an artist's point of view but I do practice myself and so seeing there's sort of all light bulbs going off in my head right now bowed how that helps both disciplines and and I think going back to kind of authenticity also going back to the the the real will that were setting our peoples that for I was actually listen into radio for woman's hour this morning on my way into work and they were interviewing famous out. You've got to help me with this. BRAS play. She's ninety-one. She Scottish sh we'll find out for you but she was. She was on the radio. She was talking about how she likes to go to art gallery. He's she's really interested in the work of Turner and his artwork has really influenced her composition. She gave some really good concrete examples. WHO's of this you know so even in in the in the field in the profession artists out there are looking to other arts disciplines to help them identify common concepts and to help them unlock aspects of their creativity and innovation in what they working and making money from it yeah so those are findings and I suppose we were quite heartened by this not only because we've now got some concrete examples to give our students rather other than sort of slightly vague instructions which is what we had up to this point but also this whole idea of combining subject disciplines. I mean Judith hinted at this in the last episode is particularly scary to secondary teachers partly because of the subject identity and partly because of the sense that kind of almost the whole school needs knocking down and rebuilding from scratch you know in the timetable needs thrown in the Bin and all that kind of thing and what are the things we discovered was the most meaningful ways of combining the subject disciplines ah don't actually destroy the kind of really important sacred things of the individual subjects in fact as we found in the difference between indisciplined re proximate and the one above it was called cooperative development between the last meaningful in the morning mean for was actually the presence of the subject discipline things in there and also that you don't need a ton of resources a ton of expense and to throw the whole kind of thing out and start again so that was kind of strangely heartening really yeah. I think it really was an and one of the Writers Wiggins thousand one also mentions that you you know we don't need chuck whole bunch of money at this in order to make meaningful connections it could start with a cup of tea with you sitting down with somebody within your AOL in my case it was music and just looking at your your respective curriculum documents or looking at the what matters statements looking at you know the the more subject iterations of of those documents and then looking for commonalities minorities common ground how powerful to be able to then simply just as a step in the right direction say to one of the will. You'll doing seem work on X. I'm doing Kazimi. We're we normally do complete different times in the year. Let's just place them side by side in the end and see how we can draw attention to one another's common common concept so discipline skills or whatever I think savage has it right Disney when he he tells us in his book on Cross curricular teaching and learning that really all you need is to go to those other subjects with an appreciation and a sensitivity towards what makes makes those subjects special to those people who love them and teach them and specialize in them and that if you go in with that sort of mindset I mean really I suppose we're just modeling and approach to things to pupils that people should be doing more widely in the world really you're not GonNa go far wrong and you're gonNA find plenty of interesting things that could well refresh rush the way that you go about your job so there we go. That's how deep discussion into cross curricular teaching and learning inexpressive is it's time to have another go short slots and as promised. Emma has an interesting quote from Einstein I do I mentioned novel the I've been reading last time I won't go into to the absolute details of it but I will just remind you that it comes from Deborah Harkness from her all souls trilogy a discovery of witches and and as I was reading I came across an interesting quote that was by Albert Einstein and comes from a much longer essay entitled the World Old as I see it by Albert Einstein and it's a really interesting reads so have a little look for if you'd like to read it in its entirety but what I thought was that that this particular extract peaked my curiosity because I thought it might have a wider message for teacher trainees or indeed teaches at any stage career because it kind of China with me of you know the reason why we do what we do but also kind of gave us permission inadvertently from Albert Einstein into not always know the answers so he says the most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious it is the fundamental emotion which stands is it the cradle of true art and true science whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder no longer marvel is as good as dead and his is our dimmed. It was the experience of mystery even mixed with fear that engendered religion a knowledge of the existence of something we cannot Donald Penetrate our perceptions of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty which only in their primitive forms are accessible to our minds it this this knowledge and this emotion that constitute true religiosity in this sense and in this alone. I am a deeply religious. Man Man. Now quite wordy is quite long. I think what what I got from this is that you're not always going to have have concrete answers the quest for knowledge in the quest for mystery and and the feeling that sometimes art and science always give you the answer is but actually that stats maybe reason to thrive into live is that quest for a mystery in your life into to be asking why and in how when what next really spoke to me and I guess you as teach trainees at the start of your journey to Murray that you don't know all the answers we're still trying to crack this. this teaching lock but but but enjoy each new scheme of work that you teach when you come in fresh because it'll be a mystery not you as to how you're how you're people's will receive it and they will always throw up something new and exciting in in response to to this lovely the job that we have in in giving the gift of knowledge skills and and a lot more to Orlenas yeah I think probably this episodes coming out towards the the end of September so maybe those new academic year resolutions are starting to hit the reality a little bit so it's nice to just remember what we're supposed to be doing. As teachers is an the kind of set up in our classrooms for pupils. Okay so wellbeing for me yeah and I have a quote note. I have a quote from the world of music to kick this off and this is from a book by a famous accompanist called Gerald more so an accompanist is that person who sits at the piano behind the soloist generally getting totally ignored in performance and I trained as an accompanist so I used to sit behind a range of divas us on stage before I got into this teaching large and so his book is one. That's very precious to me and there's too little bits that I just want to share first of all he says at the risk of shattering the readers illusions I must terrified the veil of mystery which shrouds the God like figures of musicians and state when they walk onto the platform phone. They're often so petrified with nerves that they would give half their fee or nearly off to be elsewhere and he also it goes on to say that the audience applauds a dexterity of a juggler is not aware that he's perspiring profusely and his immaculate top hat that he's cursing copiously sleep under his breath or that he's practice in particular trick for months before venturing to perform in public it all looks so easy and certainly certainly as musicians and I guess as actors as well. Everybody is trained not to give the audience an uncomfortable experience by making it clear what an absolute suit nightmare were often have it on the stage and I think we do as teachers as well. I think in the school environment where almost conditioned and to try to always look like we're on top of things to pupils to our colleagues maybe to those senior managers. He might be centene blood in the water. We always try to present this facade. The everything's great we're totally on top of things. I'm going to invite you. You listeners to just consider the possibility that actually maybe we're not on on top of that to suggest that perhaps if we're so busy giving the impression that we're absolutely on top of things. Maybe we're convincing somebody near us in the workplace who is looking at you and thinking. Oh Gosh they're on top of everything I'm not on top of everything therefore I must be a complete disaster area and and I know that we have both been guilty of doing this to have it we sometimes they presenting the facade evidence great and actually we're not and I oh you sometimes make a point now of just letting you know complete shambles. I make just because I don't want you to think doc that about me and often you know. I think that's a really useful opportunity for that the other person to say yet no I'm..
"emma" Discussed on Emma
"Cross curricular pedagogy in this resonates sweetie nicely with the research that Judith presented in our previous episode about different types of integrated curriculum design but this went went to it's slightly more granular and more focused degree where they were classifying how that looks and how that feels the outcomes aw ah within expressive arts lessons and it was quite a nice bit of luck for us really because we thought we were going to have to do a kind of double process of coding this sort of really broad brush rush coating was just supposed to be the first stage and then we were going to look for some more individual themes within that but actually just doing that to category coding theory and practice turned indepth these classifications of cross curricular approaches in the expressive ways that you can join more than one subject together in the classroom and it was so potentially useful that we actually stopped. We do it in decided that was going to be focus. Yes and I think the reason why we stopped and got so excited was that we had a bit bit of high politics. We had a bit of a hunt when we were just feeling our way. In previous versions of our cross curricular practical expirations with students are university St Sessions. We had a hunch that there might be a bit of a a spectrum of meaningful connections and hopping back to to Donaldson Donaldson and also to your research judith so this spectrum I guess you could loosely classified as being on one end of the scale. You've got arts. Disciplines being used as a container or am research save referred to them as being a handmaiden for other subject disciplines wins all the way up to much more what we would call meaningful connections where perhaps arts disciplines are being enhanced in both camps use by being combined in an integrated or multi disciplinary going back to your your episode you death in that way so having having looked at five sources that came up with these categories we then decided to come up with our own kind of classification system. Didn't we tom we you did yeah and this links with something. You said Judith in the last episode didn't you in terms of the challenges primary that the subject disciplines need to be taught. You said they're being used I yes I think there is also a danger that speaking to primary colleagues that things aren't always appearing appearing within the curriculum and then when they are appearing within the curriculum they're not always the skills and the knowledge are not as being being explicitly taught and a lot of our sources that classified had some version of that we highlighted and we found the names they all had different names and we highlighted did them all the same color but what they were basically saying was the arts were being used as a way to make something else more interesting or more fun and we decided edged to call this. We'll call it category one peripheral yes so the arts is on the outside banging on the door trying to get in sitting around the outside and I think it's really important to say there's not there's nothing wrong with that approach. There's nothing wrong with using songs to make drilling more interesting or you know even as some of my primary student said they just is play music to get the kids to tidy up faster and things like that. It's absolutely fine a perfectly good strategies a teacher as long as you understand that you're not necessarily teaching teaching them that discipline skills of music or whatever it is that you're using Philip purpose lovely quote that sums that up here and this is by wiggins two thousand as an one one of the sources that we came across in view he says if it is limited to this as in a peripheral or handmaiden sort of approach we cannot falter our colleagues for relating us the arts to a subservient position as mere entertainers and not times with everything that Judith mentioned about how the the arts historically have been marginalized and may be seen as as perhaps the icing on the cake but but not you know frightened Santo or not a firm fixture on any curriculum not worthy of exploration and investigation themselves and and development but it also you going through this now remind me of or it makes me think about English as a subject because that's my own area area of actually we wouldn't think of just having English been taught through the other subjects. Obviously it is taught through the subjects but it has its own credibility another subject area as well. We don't just use writing or reading to service the other subjects that's par. Tulsa Eh but it has its own special place within the curriculum which is which is what should happen with the arts as well so that was I mean we sort of think think of that as being the lowest on our scale simply because we just feel that the the arts discipline itself is so low on the priorities in that learning experience and the next one that we I came up with. I think it's fair to say was the one that we tend to see most often. When a student teachers thrown into our cross curricular project we're trying for the very first first time to try and combine drama music in a learning experience which is we didn't call it this but the sort of hate and hope method the put them together in a room and hope that some sort of meaningful connections will be made just combine them and what did we call it disciplinary proximity yeah together news? Sir Yes so this is where we're aspect of two or more discipline chat time space topic under stimulus and I think this is similar to your well and I was the multidisciplinary where they might be combined by topic. It's probably yes multidisciplinary as combined by topic But yes the disciplines are still exist in very much side-by-side yes yeah the hope is that one day are filing enriching and mention enough yet but enrich another and the thing with this which we found with our students is it just doesn't always work. It's it's it's too easy to just just hope that that's going to be the case and if you don't have some sort of quality control in place in terms of the way that you plan either one discipline gets massively short changed changed at the expense of the other or actually sometimes. I think we've observed this. They both Kinda get dragged down to a sort of lowest common denominator situation so thinking from my music music point of view we would see learning experiences plan by students where the music was really just relegated to sound effects. Yes I'm not really kind of musical content and similar. I think your Your Bay was freeze. Frames wasn't Emma yeah absolutely so just diluting everything dimed to the sort of the most foundational form which is fine but it's as you said Judith is not that kind of deep dive Def- India subject it also in danger of becoming a tick box thing of yeah. We can say that we've done drama because we've Don a freeze frame. We can say that we've included music because we've put some music in the background and the right point yeah great point so yes and this is something again that came through in the literature obviously which was where all of this derives from but we've got quotes here that sums this up this is nine hundred seventy six says as the quality of the art experience needs to be constantly improved so that children perceive the equal value of the subject being related and gain more knowledge of the arts as well as knowledge of the subject areas as kind of just a compounding quotation there so. I think what we concluded. was that sometimes teams they can work if you just put the two disciplines in room and hope for the best but in our articles that we read in knock classifications that we found it quickly became clear to us it was possible to get beyond just hoping and plan in such a way that both disciplines were far more likely to be equally served. Yes yes so then we started to get to approach is where the magic was beginning to happen. Third category is called Cooperative Development as as we've coined it and this is where people's use their skills and or knowledge in one discipline to help them understand concepts or overcome become obstacles in another and vice versa so development in one discipline helps prompt development in the other in an iterative process. Yes yes so I tend to think of this building walls. You've got your one discipline wall in your other discipline wall and you don't necessarily want one to become massively higher than the other but they're never going to be quite the same height and I think in some of the best things are student. Teachers have done for us when we've been working with them in this. It's when they give the pupils does the time and space to choose which way they go round so if they get stuck in the music they've got the kind of freedom to stop and park it and go and go. It's something to do with drama which will allow them to kind of get more understanding or go round the obstacle and not have it managed out so I know we've had we've seen things where the kind of classroom management has taken over and the opportunities to do that have been kind of taken away from the pupils because people's will be stronger in different disciplines at different times and I guess this really does rest and live and die on some of the additional kind of resourcing implications that you talked about Judith. Did you know if they are going to be able to sort of pendulum between the two disciplines at the same time then that's what we got scheduling issues to navigating advocating also resource issues to navigate but I guess you mentioned about you know at a at a minimum. It's teaches talking to to one another by the opposite discipline and looking for those opportunities for building the two walls and wealthy in regard to our own subjects. The elements of music in the elements of drama have common ground yeah and it's very much a sense of discovery from the teachers as well on development all AWW undestanding not only their own area but having a broader understand enough of what's going on so so you know when interviewing the teachers involved in the project that we were doing it was it was very much. They were boosted. They were encouraged by content with the by their connections with the other subjects. Yeah we can say this. Doesn is a lovely quote. Sewer Jim Strike. Yeah Yeah that coffees kicking in sticking in yet so we're gins from two thousand and one says the actually is not just the pupils the benefit from this if you do it properly properly because it gives the opportunity for teachers to enrich their own understanding of things by going and talking to their colleagues and discovering the exciting thinks about the other subjects and how interface with their own subject specialisms absolutely so yes that was category number three and that's where we I would suggest and I think you probably back me on this time. If not I withdraw your coffee. Time is a more meaningful full connection between the subject definitely and we saw this with our students. Didn't we have a nice example of that with our students where they taught some skills was in African drumming which was a music scale and they taught some skills in movement. Something called him hands which I haven't come darling darling. My life is enriched by it enormously as I didn't get involved and then crucially they were able to experiment and discover how how altering the way that the music was performed so just simple things have fast. It was performed. How loudly it was performed made them perform? The physical theatre theater in a different way so they were able to see how the elements have one influenced the elements of another and the crucial thing was that they learned some solid discipline supplant skills in the two subjects I and without having done that they couldn't have moved onto the stage of investigating how connected yes. I'm unjust to to add to that that concrete example what was also a really key feature. The successive of this workshop was that they chose into narrow quite oy precisely down to the the elements. They wanted to their peoples to explore. It's about depth not breath. If you want your pupils pulls to to read kind of gain those that knowledge and skills in a meaningful way you need to be quite restricted in what you ask them to focus on yeah and that's a really great example of the difference between the disciplinary proximity shove them in a room and hope for.
"emma" Discussed on Emma
"Hello hello and welcome to a special summit bonus very short edition of the podcast with me and emma. Hello hello how are you. I'm alright and this is coming <music> out in the middle of the summer when hopefully nobody's thinking about teaching or any of that kind of thing that's all so we are not going to do anything heavy in this episode. I've got a lovely. I dare era people sat on a beach with us in their headphones. Having a little listen drifting away on the going on those they do but we were just a little bit worried is such a long time between the end of season one and the beginning of season two and there is going to be a season two that we just wanted to pop into your podcast fee just to reassure you that we haven't gone anywhere and how it will reflect on what we did in season one and a little look forward to what we're going to bring to you next year so starting off with our reflections a lot of good stuff apart from sweating and not which is definitely definitely a good thing but sweating stressing over our our lovely podcast baby that we're pretty proud of but yeah yes a good staff came out of it is not without its blood sweat and tears but it's definitely been worth and it's just been really strange actually hasn't when when when a student or a member of staff has come up and said oh i really enjoyed that whatever on your podcast and you realize it is actually out there in the public yeah so i guess top of the list is his engagement engagement from anybody and everybody who has lessened but i guess i personally students who've engaged with their and who perhaps have followed followed up on some of the reading or follow up on some of the strategies that we jess date or indeed of improved their well being as a result you know just stephen engagement h. meant and it making a difference there experience. A gas was the impetus for this podcast worlds because we don't actually spend an enormous number of hours with our students. It's not like <hes> undergrad degree where they're all the time. They're only in for a day a week and it was just nice to be able to bring them some things that we didn't have the time for. We couldn't physically the government to the building and it's actually worked really well. As the way of reaching some of our candidates who have applied to the program so that they can get a sense of <music> who we are and what we're all about before they join us in september so in that sense it's been a good marketing tool but also a good way to get into their subconscious as early yeah. It's it's good and it's always nice that they won't have any nasty surprises. I suppose if they come on the program because they know what we're about and what we do and it just means. They're gonna maybe hit the ground running a little bit more when they join us in september so hello to all those candidates who email back and forth and told me what they've enjoyed over the course of this year well done for listening listening and we will see you in person valley shortly. Yes we will and i guess connection is is a key theme to some of the things that we've been really proud of this year. We've connected with some really interesting people guests. We've had on the podcast people who we've given shy tights too so hopefully our our reaches has been wide in terms connection and engaging with all of those people and what they're interested in yeah. There's been some lovely people who've gotten touches. It's always been like a form of publishing has supposed to publish here in university and instead of writing everything some of it. We've just put out as a podcast and it's always nice. When you meet a new person. Absolutely we've engaged with <hes> some international listeners we haven't we haven't managed to <hes> to track dime getting on the podcast yet but we are aware of their existence and hopefully that will continue continue. Yes one of the beauties of the podcast softer as it can sort of tell me roughly where everybody is and it's interesting to see how many people there are in different parts of the world and do say hello to us. You're very quiet quiet llanview out there on twitter so i if you like what you hear or if you don't like what you hear or you have suggests i know you like to come on get in touch because we'd love to hear from you and that brings us to the all important social media platforms that we we inhabit namely namely twitter writers probably our main our main social media output but yes. We don't have one for the podcast but we have one each for ourselves. I'm thomas brees all one word and what am i. You are ethiopia underscore c._m._u. Wow that's yes as hubs of even tyrone home known your phone numbers and it just didn't retain that information to work on my retention retrieval practice yes so tell us tell us what you think yeah or if you have a suggestion for topic because we have got to find twenty one more episodes if we come back next year yeah when we come back next yes when we come back next i say we need twenty or more episodes to philly i always with so we have always suggestions but before we do that we'd like to just take a little bit of time to reminisce about some of our favorite episodes food and our favorite wellbeing tips from our inaugural year of the podcast. What about east home. What was your what was your favorite episode. Well l. strangely enough. I think although we had highlights like getting the minister in for example in interviewing her and all that kind of thing strangely. I think my favorite it's episode was probably the easter special one. I also enjoyed the christmas special one. I particularly liked that one that we did those two lighter episodes without kind of pulling the occurred him back too much it. It's quite hard work making some of these episodes. We put a fabric work into them and try and make them tight as we possibly can and it was just kind of refreshing rushing to chill out a little bit in easter episode. I particularly liked the fact that we spontaneously decided not to give each other material in advance. That's a formula <hes> that will repeat next year isn't it i think we will and it was it was just nice to have a laugh and i know that towards the end of last year i got a little bit mischievous in my approach to certain discussions quite nice to drop. If you crazy ones in there into the episode it was just. I think that one was is probably the closest to what it's like. When we just sit down with a cup or somewhere i agree with that and i really enjoy being able to share the marietta marietta outputs or even just a fraction of of the outputs are constantly coming through my twitter feed constantly coming through blogs that i've subscribed to so so you know there's a big conversation there by education and and it's really great to be able to present some of those voices on our podcast yeah i think so so we're hoping to do a few more of those next exchange because they were they were an experiment. I think they were a successful and so yeah. That was my favorite episode. I enjoy listening to that and mine. I well. I'm going to be a little bit sort of sitting on the fence. I'm a libra so do try to maintain balance which you could assume he's also indecision paralysis by analysis. I i actually loved all of the episodes we had guests. I love interviewing. I i am developing ping a real passion for interviewing and asking really great interview questions which i will continue to work on this year but i i really love hearing the variety steve perspectives on education and on hearing about people's passion projects to <hes> to quote khakassia he wasn't a gaspar is somebody who we've got earmarked and who anyways who is already been contacted about coming on on the show next year. We should definitely thank those guests because they usually absolutely terrified kevin here. Aren't they yeah yeah. We try to calm them down. She says she brings her hands. In fear of getting back on the horse i mean i think thank even we as we tested these microphones after a long break. We're not entirely sure what was going to happen when the red light went south sudanese. It's pretty scary. Doing this and our guests are very lovely to us to come in. They normally really looked pretty frightened and we we ply them with coffee and cupcakes and things like that. We definitely want to recognize it takes a certain amount of bravery to get up in front of the microphones even when you're talking about your special subject so thank you guests anna gassar an extension of that is if you if you would like to be guest you know not not not they don't listen to tom. He's not meet again just received more free and lose so no if you if you would love to join us at eta on our humble podcast then do get in touch with us paps via twitter and we'd love to range getting you in you can get you in. We can get you down the line. We'll have you a chef away. You'll come on the podcast. Yes guests are always good. Okay so <hes> to calm nerves. Let's let's just cast our minds back to to our favorite wellbeing tips that came across the airwaves the air that was an important part of the podcast wasn't it. We were feeling the need some wellbeing when we set it up so we decreed it will be a regular part of the podcast and it seems to work quite well yeah so what was what was your favorite tip. Tom well think my favorite one was. My mind. Most left field when i brought to the john hattie episode which was episode six and some people still kind of go on at me about this one. I know that <hes> <hes> our friend julia jenkins from teach fists mentioned this one and that was the survival the idea that i remember that so the outdoor instructor taught the people that the most important survival thing they needed was the ability to make a cup of tea and the reason was that they would go and do something familiar get hot and consign them and not rush into doing something stupid. I like that. It's passed into our language. Hasn't we do actually in conversation say sometimes this has happened. Oh no of had this email. I'm going to have a survival cupo before. I reply apply to it. Yeah absolutely lexicon there have been several they see a permanent survival captured stalled in front of us. I think i think so my favorite wellbeing tipped bat. She comes from episode five <hes> which cross curricular episode and it was the mood elevator i mean has a bit of a special place in my heart because it did come to my attention via my other half who inhabits the world all engineering and it was just really great to to be able to learn something from completely different sphere that i thought had a a really good application <hes> within education and i'm beyond really just being able to name the emotions that feeding and to know that you i you you might not be doing your best thinking in that moment because your emotions onto at the right floor on the elevator. I think it's a sign of a good wellbeing tip when it's passed into our shared language because it's it's not unknown when we're props on the phone off talking to say oh. I don't think i can do this today. I'm really low on the mood elevator. Yeah absolutely says another another common phrase that you'll hear around these parts <laughter> podcast is changed our whole way of speaking to another clue what we're talking about most the time no instead if you haven't listened to episode then you go back and listen so you know what the hell away so..
"emma" Discussed on Emma
"Email. He was incredibly excited excited about what he'd heard he was infused and he just wanted to share that with me and I thought well you know what you can share that with the rest of the world so we're GONNA get an mirror brandon. Joe and Tom and I want to give a shoutout to them and say a big. Thank you to them the coming on because they've got some really inspiring things to tell you all yeah I would agree with that and say that we have actually recorded their episode already. Four them are absolute podcasting legends so I would shooting for the episode defy and buy some amazing chance. I've also got you doing something to try so yeah okay so I was having a little nosy roamed on twitter as I sometimes do of weekend with a cup of tea on my Sofa and I noticed an article that was written by Mark Essner for the times educational supplement and it was about preparing G._C._C. level people's for exams and it was about how to prep prep them and give them some really good examples of revision techniques and something that caught my eye was technique that you use in class that effectively turns your people's classwork into a usable revision aide down the line. He recommended an approach that comes from across the Atlantic in the U._S.. Called Cornell notes. What they say is a note taking system that was actually devised in the forties by somebody? Nobody called Walter pork an education professor at Cornell University and he advocated its use in his best selling book how to study in college what it is. It's it kind of gives a nod to all those end to graduate students students out there who can remember sitting in a lecture theatre the first time being given this really inspiring lecture and writing every single thing down for fear that they might miss something and not necessarily really knowing what they should write right down and what they shouldn't or indeed undergraduate students sat in elector who was owning in and zoning I have said undergraduates like new Jenny Rather Dayton title and nothing else and it struck me that actually early. Nobody ever really taught me how to write lecture notes very good point. No nobody taught me how to write lecture notes hence I wrote almost none so I guess we'll to poke notice this discrepancy and therefore devised eastern designed and imparted a note taking system for undergraduates unwell anybody ready. I'm what Marcus nurse saying is that people's in classrooms could use it what it involves is essentially taking your your piece of note paper and dividing it into thirds the first third being the kind of main area that you would normally write your notes. If you've got a normal piece of note paper the margin and maybe a little bit of extra space would be enough fl your left hand portion of the page the right hand side of the page where you normally write your notes can be just a little bit smaller than usual so you've got kind of a smaller left hand column and a slightly larger right tank column and then underneath your final third can and be sort of with a third of the page from the bottom up. I'm not very good at describing not a region page into three thirds and in those three thirds you do different things. Okay a case step one in your right hand. It's kind of way you would normally traditionally write your notes. This is the record phase so during the lecture you use the note taking column on the right to record the lecture using saying what he calls telegraphic sentences and I watch e telegraphic sentences comes from telegrams and what that means is short concise sentences so nothing to would e so these these notes are good to be really kind of. Punchy and an unuseful when you're trying to revise them later on down the line so in that right column you've got key notes on things like dates details definitions formulas concrete examples pictures pictures so nothing too far from probably what you already right in your notes but then this is where the magic happens in the column on your left or two left this is kind of step two and this is the recall column. I'm what it's the advice is. Is there in that column during the lecture also you're writing key words you distilling the main oats on the right hand side into keywords but also writing key questions so that you can test yourself on the material afterwards you might also note on the left hand side cut the big ideas of the lecture so what you're doing there is you distilling your distilling the lecture to its essence and you're writing in question so you could test yourself on those notes after the lecture what that does is it promotes more active engagement in the lecture so rather than kind of sitting passively as someone receiving information you actually happen to use that information and device questions for at the same time now also again magic can happen after the lecture in the final thirds that bottom third of the page and not step is the summarize is step so what is suggested is that you use that space after the lecture to summarize your notes by way of testing yourself on how much you know now what you could do who is you could eat the right hand column and simply test yourself using the questions that you wrote on the Left and see how much you can remember or indeed you could try and summarize you could add some additional information that you found out since the Latte Joseph taking those notes a little bit deeper there are multiple ways of doing it but essentially if you use this in a secondary context or maybe in a very very basically you could use an appropriate context. You're turning exercise books in the content from the lesson into a revision aid so they've got on the right hand side the May notes from some direct teaching you've been doing on the left hand side some key questions to test themselves and then a space for them to for their homework down the line practice weekdays retrieving information that they've learned and I must say I tried this when you showed me this what I used it in a slightly different way. I <hes> like we all do received a large and indigestible document in my email was supposed to read our name. The the document in case the person responsible for is listening and I created a Cornell page layout by dragon my left margin across and making it really big and dragging my bottom margin up and making it really big printing the document which is where we slightly he kills trees and doing that but with the text in the main block and I found it really useful way to kind of digest the important themes and put myself little comments and things like that. I found it really helpful so thank you so this is actually rooted in some. I'm in some useful research. That's going on in the realm of Cognitive Science Weinstein Simmer rockies book understanding how we learn a visual guide from one thousand nine hundred eighteen and they talk at the back and gives some really great guidance actually to people's ripples about revision and they say that research from the field of applied behavior analysis recommends the use of guided notes they actually hold up guided notes as a really really good example of practice that helps people's undestand and remember and be able to kind of convert the short term into long term memory but whatever it is you're trying to teach they say some more effective to note taking approach it has been proven to improve note taking on learning from lectures ages and they say that teachers lecturers can also provide guided note resources containing cues and blank spaces that pupils are students have prompted to take notes about specific concepts covered in lessons so even if you don't do it Cornell notes style if you've got a section of the lesson where you're doing some direct teaching the important thing is to have really thought about what you want your peoples to capture and to think about and to actively engage with during that direct teaching and then providing a resource that guides them and guides their notes they know what it is that you want them to look for Cornell notes. Get out there and start using them. I have to say this episode has been an absolute treasure trove of things to do particularly the older pupils. Isn't it your kind of high level learners which is quite timely at sea when we as we as we approach exam period yeah so there we go loads of things for you to use thanks it must be nice doing a podcast just to get nice news timing not much better so much perkier. Thank you thank you for keeping the faith okay. We will be back next time with the aforementioned for students I really do we recommend getting yourself ready to listen to not because they were absolutely brilliant absolutely and they're going to give you some really important key ministers about trained to be a teacher as certainly are so until then we'll say bye bye that was Tom's page you see podcasts presented by me and on Thom breeze this episode was brought to you by flipped learning Cornell notes and all the people better than us. 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"emma" Discussed on Emma
"You need to think about what you students can undo what skills and prerequisite knowledge they will need to draw upon to do the kind of pre work the homework stage and if you if you worry Oh you think they might not be able to do that independently without you there uh-huh without the guidance from parents and carries at home then it might not be the right time to use this strategy but he does say students can be trained in these skills that pay dividends later on and what he says is if you never train them? I mean those skills you will never feel confident that is going to deliver the rigor that you require when you do it yeah. I think that is a recurring theme with a lot of these things isn't it. You can't just expect pupils to be able to do these difficult things where they they work independently. You've got to put the work in. I read a really interesting article about it. Today I was looking because you have to be critical about these things. I was looking for articles which were against flipped. Learning is good overeat interestingly <hes> my first port of call was something I found an internet search basically said flipped learning doesn't work but then I discovered it was an opinion piece from a pupil in a school newspaper websites and he was basically saying come on teachers his gallon with it and teach supposed to which I found was really kind of interesting that sometimes the peoples can be quite old school about what teacher is I want to teach is for the other. One I find was was on called the flip end of a love affair by Shelley right right. It was basically saying why I don't use flipped learning anymore and I feel are here. Here's somebody who's tried flip learning and found it completely doesn't work when I read the article. It was a lot more subtle in fact she done flipped learning she'd found it really successful but then her pupils pulls had actually gone above and beyond flip learning so she didn't need it anymore and she'd moved on from actually providing the content in advance and then doing all the deep meaningful learning to a point where the pupils were actually so trained to be independent and free thinking they were going out and finding the stuff themselves lead in their own learning doing their own groupings and all of that kind of thing so that the reason that she actually gave him flip learning was that she didn't need it anymore. I think the important thing that it speaks to and that you've kind of mentioned there as well is that our pupils will need to be independent learners later on in their adults academic and employment careers so we do need to take these steps towards taking aching the rails away and taking the scaffolds away. What's wrong with me obviously having having done this with postgraduate students was that there's a lot of work to be done in prepping post sixteen students and full work undergraduate level they will often in an undergraduate program have to engage in a seminar discussion that will have been preloaded yes with a lecture or indeed they might encounter some pre work Capri reading by way of flip learning so it's kind of setting them up a with experience of that scenario and be with the skills to be able to competently engage in some of the discursive and problem solving work that can come off the back of the flip learning absolute yeah and I think a really important thing to do if you're gonNA try and get people on board with? This is just to be really straight with about why you're doing it. I think that you need sometimes to. To pull the curtain back and explain what's going on behind the scenes and so that you won't get for example a pupil like that one right in in that school newspaper thinking their teacher was kind of slacking off by giving all the work in advance explain to them that you're going to give them not resource so that they can access it in a comfortable place at home. They can look at it as many times as they like. They can do it whenever they feel they want to so that you can do something more meaningful in class and I certainly found our student teachers although they are fatty motivated crowd they were very receptive. I thought to that idea in terms of being time poor as well. I you know not to be too utilitarian about it but there's a lot of content that teachers have to cover a lot of curriculum content content and teachers often have concerns about how best to use their time that very precious time they have with the learners and I think if this can be seen as a way of still delivering that really important content nt but creating the space time to do some of that sort of higher order exploratory stuff that Sherrington talks about in the kind of mode be aspect of his book that that teaches. I'm learning really crave an I personally really crave that as a teacher and I would recommend that anyone who wants to give it a go. If you can find an appropriate moment not every single lesson not every single day but an appropriate part of your specification or curriculum I really would recommend. I commend you. Give it a try. Okay Tom. It's it's your turn this week for wellbeing slot. We have to actually do some work this week. I've just remembered why we like having guests. So what would you like to share with our listeners <hes> to help improve their wellbeing this week okay so I'm going to take you back in the preamble to this you know me. I like to make these into kind of long. jackanory episodes are going to take you back to my youth very long time ago. When I was learning to be a musician session unlike so many young musicians I joined my local youth orchestra in my town and there was scraping away on my violin and orchestra very hierarchical places? Everybody knows their place you know in the pecking order Nichols I started very low in the pecking order and towards the front of the string section worthies amazing string players who were on the county Youth Orchestra and we all looked up to them and thought they were amazing and all the rest of it after a while I became good enough to join the county youth orchestras who are vital to the county youth orchestra and low behold. I was right at the back and right at the front where people who are on the National Youth Orchestra and you know again we bow down to them. They were amazing and then after a little while I got good enough enough to join the National Youth Orchestra Wales. I was very lucky I had a fantastic time. I was somewhere in the middle never did quite make it to the front and again they were people right at the top of that tree who were in the National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain. I never had a cast Johnson hell of getting his talks to Great Britain happy enough on the National Youth Orchestra Whales but the point is that as a musician. You have to make peace quite early on with the fact that there is always going to be somebody better than you. You is not quite like maybe one hundred meter runner or something like that where you could legitimately aim to be the best in the world because you know there is actually a best in the world are there are no best in the world's in music once you reach a certain point you know you might be the best. Is that something play in a particular kind of music. They'll be always somebody better at playing a different kind of music and I really genuinely think that how you kind of approach that sudden realization you come to junior formative years that there's always always gonna be somebody better than you has a really big effect on your kind of happiness and your wellbeing and I'm pleased to say I kind of did make my peace with it and once I got to university I realized that the best thing mm to do with those people who are better than me and there were plenty of people better than an awful lot of things that university was not to feel jealous of them or hate them or what to push down the stairs so that they can play any more or anything in order to kind of resent the or even to kind of not even to beat yourself because you weren't as good as them the very very best thing that you could do for your own wellbeing and actually to improve yourself was to go and work with them to go and I had some fantastic experiences playing music with people who were a lot better than me and they were the people who challenged me and pushed me on a made me better and I've gotta say actually they were usually the nicest people to work with as well absolutely unanswered so many parallels with teaching I think is a useful really useful. jackanory episodes toll made a lovely analogy but yeah you're right and this this this feeling in education. Sometimes it can be your enemy that nothing is ever finished and you're never quite the best you can be because it's always different ways that you can improve and you know there's no. I mean we do have standards. Of course we have standards but you know you can always seek to know more to enhance your people's learning better. You know it's it's never ending so I think it's a really useful sentiment to kind of be an antidote to that. That feeling of of of worthlessness that we send full. I'm not saying you know I'm not saying I was that enlightened. Every single day of the week that I never occasionally had moments where I thought Oh you know I'll never be as good as so and so but I think just trying to minimize those and and realizing that those really really genuinely great people are usually the kindest and the most willing to share and the most willing to work with people so if you're out there and you feeling a bit jaded or bit short of ideas or you. You don't think he's very are we good something rather than suffering by yourself and leading the E._U.. Up Go and find someone that you think is amazing and very very good at things and see if they'll work with you. We'll do what I do make podcast with them and I think what you'll find is that they will also have things that they feel they don't do well. You'll it'll it'll give you a human perspective on on the on the Holy Grail of teachers in your school definitely rights time for the shoutout slot on a thing you've go one Emma I have. I'm going to tee up episodes sixteen. Tom And I'm going to tee up <hes> full very special guests that we've got coming out to you an into your ears in two weeks time. They are four of my student teachers on on the P. C.. Second Drama Program is a little bit of a story attached to this because one of them brandon who you will meet in a couple of weeks time emailed me very excitedly a few weeks back having just been to listen to a talk delivered by none other than Kirsty Williams are Minister for Education in Wales and it was a very inspired person that I had on the other end of email..
"emma" Discussed on Emma
"Hello and welcome to episode fifteen of the podcast and it's a bit of a special title episode in a way because this is the first one for ages. Wes just you and me. I know I feel a little bit lonesome Tom. I know it's strange. Isn't it and it's also hopefully going to include a little bit more of me. I should explain to listeners that we recorded three episodes back to back a little while ago in which I was really ill and so I've been missing in action from the podcast pretty much for about the past six weeks that's not true holy and we were busy so we knew we had to do three recordings on on the banks and I was just sitting feeling terrible so I am feeling better because it's not quite sometime later and I intend to speak and that boise sounding good yes. I'm sounding a lot O- sounded so ill in some of those so here I am back from the edge of being dead and here to talk about. Is that Coleman play. Sorry things very bad man flu. It was pretty awful. I was a hero throughout opt. You are a hero forever. So what are we talking about today. Then Tom we are having another episode in which we talk in depth about a teaching learning strategy now the last time we did this it. was you talking the jigsaw technique as right sit while ago now so today we're here to talk about another one that we've tried with our students in which <hes> is is quite well known out there and it's called flipped learning flipped learning manning okay so to all the laymen and women out there what is flit learning. How does it work so it's actually quite a simple concept? When you get your head around it all sounds terribly kind of impressive without name <hes> <hes> but it deals with this idea that if we're not careful the big where we're in the room with our pupils can be the bit where we give out an enormous amount of information or content and I'm sure we've all been there either receiving leaving or giving the dreaded death by powerpoint and I should put my hand up here and say that I am really not a fan of powerpoint as a thing because I think it does encourage the death by powerpoint approach? There's a really interesting article in the Guardian Eighteen actually which somebody demolishes powerpoint as being this thing that just encourages passivity in the learn as they sit there thinking yes. I'll get my email later or if I write these bullet points down really carefully that must mean I've done everything that I need to do and I think teachers on the quiet quiet like as well because they sought of feel that they know they're gonna get everything in there. Everything's planned in advance. The trouble is is not a great use of that really scarce this time we have in a room with our pupils because what we then do is having given them that really one way traffic with all the information and they've sat there and they've either kind of written stuff off the border. They wanted you to email it. We then send them off to to try and do really quite difficult things with information or by themselves at home so actually what you're saying is is that all that kind of frontloading of material that we think they should be able to learn about without us in the room they come to lessen preloaded with so that the really tricky stuff the high road stuff. Maybe they are. They're doing with us in the room with them. Exactly so you simply swap around you get him to do the easy stuff the content loading when they're by themselves and you free up the space and the time in the classroom to do something much more meaningful and so it's really important to say at this point flipped learning is not about snazzy notice of your resources. There's a kind of myth out there. I suppose if you're GONNA do flip learning you have to be some kind of technical wiz who can make amazing videos of content that are going to wow your pupils that you're not going to be able to do it without loads of equipment and loads of technical skills the as ask Tom Sherrington says in his book in rainforest which we reviewed a couple of episodes ago flipped learning as been around forever. I mean you don't have to give them a video. It could be a book. It could be a printed handout it. It's not about the resource you give them. It's about are you can then do in your lesson time because they've had it in advance and I think to elsewhere on sharing to. I think it's important for us to mention here that this is one strategy amongst many what we're not attempting to do is to vilify direct direct instruction or direct teaching there are times in lessons where we actually need to be leading from the front and that doesn't necessarily have to be passive is not to <hes> Christodoulou but actually this is just a a new approach where you know that you've got content tint that your pupils can cope with outside the lesson independently yeah absolutely and this didn't come from us being zealots for progressive against traditional or anything kind of political or idealistic like that it came. I'm from the really simple practical conversation that we had one day which just said something like. We only see our students on a Monday because that's how it works on the P._G.. See Course we've got all this stuff to get through. We've got a new curriculum in Wales which is asking people to work. Looking across curricula ways we've got to start to include all of that on top of what we do already. We're already pushed for time. What can we do and I think it's important to say? There were a lot of things that we knew about our students. The skills that they had the told us they would to be able to cope with listening to and engaging with the pre material before the session and we also knew that the thing that we wanted them to learn about lent itself to having that kind of preloading reloading of material beforehand and the thing that we were trying to get them to understand more depth and detail was one of the assignments in fact. We've done it twice. Haven't we turn your both assignments because it was really the obvious target for a death by powerpoint to be perfectly honest has been traditionally a powerpoint or to do the rams which just give out all the kind of nuts and bolts of what needs to be in the assignment what sections there are what goes on in the sections how many words they should be the when the thing is to you in and I will put my hand up and say that more than once I have stood in front of my class for two hours and I have delivered that lecture and I just knew in my heart of hearts. It was a terrible use of time. So how did it work when we did it well. Oh I see simply took the powerpoint which had previously delivered life and I used the new rate function on powerpoint to stick my dulcet tones over the top of it so that I could send out the students in advanced and this deals I think with that myth I mentioned earlier that you have to be some kind of technical genius in order to do flip learning to make video resources powerpoint. Has It built in Kuala. People don't realize this that if you've got a powerpoint presentation there is a record function most laptops and ipads ads and things like that have got built in microphones these days and if you record you can advance the slides you can speak. It'll record your voice. It'll remember how long each slide needed to be there for and then play the powerpoint back it will be there with your voice correct slide timings you can turn into video file as well which you can upload to youtube so I simply took the powerpoint that was there already and repurposes rated video and that's a really important thing to understand because one of the major arguments points against doing learning is that it's more work for teachers because they have to create these resources I as well as obviously plan the deep learning session. That's going to be there so do repurpose your materials. If you're trying this you don't have to make something new as a really good point <hes> and then the important conversation that we had once we knew we were going to do this as flip learning was what was the aspect of this content of their knowledge and skills in relation to the assignment that they actually really needed he did us to be there and needed each other on a classroom based scenario when activity is in order to to grapple wave and to learn exactly we needed to find something that they were going to be asked to do by themselves under the old model which I they were gonna find difficult or was going to take them a lot of time or perhaps might not show up in their assignments in the end thereby resulting in them having lower marks and what we aimed for in this particular assignment without going into too much detail for any of our listeners. I don't know this piece. The students needed to talk about an impact that they had through doing something in the classroom. They were being asked about what they done to impact or improve some aspect of the learning in their classroom and so oh we need them to be able to describe that impact they also needed to be able to provide evidence of that impact and then having done a literature review in the previous part of the assignment they needed to link all the way back to that literature <hes> and discuss in what way how what they saw the impact that they saw kind of fitted with what the literature was saying. There's a kind of triangle there the impact the evidence and the associated literature sources and that's quite a hard thing thing to do when it's new to you like it is for a lot of ask. You is a really good point Tom and actually A._F._l.. Reedie has a has an important part to play in this process of deciding whether flip learning is the right strategy or not we knew that notoriously Torius Australian teachers find this part of the assignment quite difficult because it asks them to engage some high awards master's level skills synthesizing lots of different material from different places analyzing evaluating so we need to have them in the room with us so we could guide them through a model and stretch them and challenge them so they felt that they had the skills and the knowledge to be able to do that in their assignments took the form. If we think about it worries about technology it's nice to know that that took the form of an exercise printed on cards so they simply had cards in which they wrote about the impact card for that evidence a card for their literature sources and they physically put them together on the desk in front of them so that they could. Let's see the way that those things linked together and how they needed to be set out in the assignment and Lo and behold I would say that that area of the assignments was hugely improved as a result of doing that. I'm pleased to say I had no fails from my cohort. Who'll this year and I was exactly the same and yes? I've got to say from a teaching perspective as well. Initially I was a little bit reticent. I felt that I was in more of a facilitator role Roland. I did feel a little bit uncomfortable. I wasn't going to give them all the information upfront. I was a little bit worried about Utah. Well yeah I mean I must confess. I like that Roller Law and I try to get whatever I can which is. Maybe why I try to use it. I think it's what I said earlier. Everybody is kind of beguiled and tempted by that lovely powerpoint based session that runs on rails. We all wanted because it's easy. We don't have to think quite so hard but I I do. I Will Bang on about the fact I I think it's worth beaten that temptation every day of the week. So what does what does literature say about this strategy. Tom Is there any evidence that supports the validity of this as a strategy were. This is an interesting one because of course the first first thing I did when I was looking into this. I went to the Great John Hattie who we all know in love and has got something to say about pretty much everything and what was interesting is that he doesn't actually mention flipped learning as a thing ranking. I was in his book visible learning for teachers today preparing for this recording. It's not in the index and I was a little bit surprised about that but thinking about it'll be more doing a little bit more reading. I think I think the point of it is that flipped. Learning is a thing that enables you to do a whole lot of other stuff in that time that you free up so I guess the content loading bit could be considered as homework and we've mentioned about about John Hattie's ranking and his effect size for homework before he says very clearly about homework that it has a really variable effect. You have to give the right sort of homework and the right sort of homework is either drilling of stuff you know or ready or kind of surface level content loading stuff. John Hattie himself says that trying to deepen difficult stuff in homework is nowhere near as effective and I think that's probably the closest we get to an hour tonight kind of a big thumbs up for flip learning from John Hattie of course it also means that you can be doing things like feedback reciprocal teaching classroom discussion in that freed up time and that's all stuff that pops up on his ranking with an effect size in excess of North Point Eight. which is you know really large Asia and I'm just looking at some not counter perspective but just some woods of of advice in warning from Tom Sherrington who talks about some of the things that we've not to start the podcast which is that.
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"Teaching is is so useful in the classroom and going off piste. I read like that idea as well that you know current affairs can make even Donaldson talks about <hes> looking to what's going on in the real world to find find parallels to make it meaningful to our people's obviously links that perhaps resonate with their everyday lives and that permission to go off piste goodness uh Sir what maverick teachers do really as they feel that they can do that and that's where the students gained from it so I Guess Tomorrow Dafa Deep Discussion as we did with the Christodoulou Book. I think it'd be nice to kind of say you know aw final sort of review points are general takeaways from from this book and I'm happy to kick this off and and say what I like about it is that there's something for every stage of your career in this book whether you are a seasoned professional and as Tom said at the start you you look at those two opposite metaphors and different schools that you worked in begin to make a lot more sense or resonate with you or indeed he does Judy said if you're a novice just really great practical tips and some research leads fee to explore what about you do following on from that I think it's just a good jumping off point for various ideas and strategies. He doesn't give a loss of detail doesn't some cases more than others but actually you can take an idea. Take it away. Go and discuss it with the department and think how can we make this work. I think he did a great job of covering an enormous an enormously wide range of topics and I think he does it from a good place. I think he does it from a place where nothing is sacred in the best possible way <hes> and where we're demanding high standards and certain MARV accountability but we're also keeping that magic that makes teaching an art so while agree with everything he says I'm not entirely sure he agrees with everything he says to be perfectly honest. I I take it all and I find it really useful great now as you know due to the guests that we invite to our lovely podcast come along with some woods of wisdom on while being shy tanked and something to try so what is your well being tipped for us this week our K.. I'd like to recommend not to say that we do here at Cardiff met which is a stuff book club. We meet regularly to talk about various research books and we met today in fact and I was trying to think why I'd like it so much. It is very satisfying not only does it make you read and keep up today with books but you share and learned so much from colleagues and it's particularly satisfying because it's a non threatening environment where you can <hes> work in a non judgmental way but in developing your own knowledge etcetera and it is just very enjoyable getting together with colleagues and discussing things so having a book club in a in a previous life. I've run a writing club stuff writing club as well but anything which brings you together I would recommend for wellbeing. I would agree with that and something that you did this time around that. I thought was a really good idea for those teachers out there POPs. You've got quite heavy workload in thinking or how am I going to possibly do but crept for comfort in the whole book that you actually sent a chapter to those who hadn't necessarily tense look at the whole book but really wanted to come and join I thought that in terms of kind of differentiation and access and workload management you know you might not be able to read the whole book but take. Take a look at a chapter common habit. Listen and you can still and colleagues come who haven't read it but actually they're inspired to go away and read it yeah halls. We've had a discussion on that research. Books don't have to be heavy today. We've discovered we've uncovered but in the process of doing this stuff book club. There are a number of really accessibly written books that are full of really good stuff and I think we've all benefited from it. Thanks for that wellbeing tip Judith Okay so who you gonNA show type two this week okay. This is a shoutout shoutout to a special group of trainees and this is the trainees or as student teachers who have young kids and these I'm always full of admiration for those trainees who managed managed to get through their P._G.. Course and have a family to look after as well they are usually very driven very well organized a delight to work with and they show that it can be done absolutely absolutely and this is resonates quite nicely with an episode episode eleven. I believe it was it was the one we were talking about how to how to apply into successfully get onto a p._g.. Program and we we reference parents prince who are thinking of applying then and I think that advice kind of extends then unto those fantastic parent trainee teachers out there who do great job and finally have you got a little something for us to try over us our you're listening to try. I have an infant. I've got a little something for you to try which is and based on some work that one of my ex students did abby cooper and she was indeed one of these students who hard young children she still does have she qualified in two thousand and sixteen and her kids now are seven and eight she now works in an Orchard School in Bristol and she's made it to at second in faculty as well in the English faculty and she comes in and talks to some of our students and also students in other universities who shall remain nameless about her approach to assessment and what I want to suggest that you have a go at is using a marking crib sheet now she uses when she's doing her mocking. She has a sheet beside her where she is making notes notes about what she's not to sink within the mocking so I mean probably a loss of us do this. I have a scrap of paper where on on not and even now the common things that come up now. This is what he is doing and she she is doing a in pops a little bit more of an organized way so <hes> she has an a four sheet of you. Imagine she's got an a four sheet in front cover. It's sort of landscape and it's got seven boxes on it and in those boxes are things like there's a box hawks the praise and uh she's going along. She will put in the box those students who are due for a for particular praise for doing something perhaps haven't done before or <hes> showing a good example of something. She has another box of course for concern <hes> again. She'll note the names of students that she needs to catch up on on that she has a box for missing or incomplete works. You can see that she's tracking all the different aspects. Let's on this crib sheet as she goes along. She has another box for an dirt or dedicated improvements reflection time so that's going to be the focus when she gives back the work. These are the main themes that have come up on. This is what we're going to work on. There is a box misconceptions and actions so for example it might be getting their apostrophes wrong or issues with homophones or whatever and then the final two boxes are on spike so spelling punctuation and grammar and presentation now she uses this because as teachers we spend an awful lot of time. Mocking particularly English teachers history teachers et Cetera spent an awful lot of time putting marks on students work and be quite frank. I think Sherrington a note this as well at a very often. It's <hes> wasted time because the students don't look in detail at it but what is important is that we as teachers on noting the areas where they're learning whether they're not learning and keeping this crib sheet by makes you do they sit on an organized way so I think it sort of minimal in a moment king on the work but keeping a crib sheet while you keep an all useful information and I think with all the classes show me examples and as long as it fits in with the mark in policy the school she she likes to copy the crib sheet for the students as well so they're aware of the key issues as well so really small working on that so that's what I would suggest that you you try and have got lovely. Thank you for van that age old adage. Isn't it a quality not quantity helping you to manage that workload and doing things that are actually going to be meaningful for your people's progress do it has been an absolute pleasure as always thank you for being a guest on our lovely podcast. Thank you T- Tom and it's goodbye from all of us and we will. I'm sure see you again in the future okay but was emmer and Tom's P._G.. podcast presented by Emma and Tom Breeze. Today's special guest was me judith knee. Today's book was the learning rainforest by Tom Sherrington. We salute student teachers with small children once again with organization..
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"And this is a strategy that is widely we used it possibly one which is more difficult for a novice teacher. A novice teacher is trying to grasp the level that they should be teaching at very often. They've come straight out of university ACETATE. They have a very good subject knowledge behind them and they are trying to find the right level to teach forty nine year olds or whatever so without greater explanation and he doesn't really give enough explanation in the book I I would say that this teach into the top is one to put on hold or at least if you don't put it on hold talk to you department about so if you are in a department which is saying we organize our curriculum by teaching to the top use this as a starting point for a discussion and say actually what would that look like in practice how how to do that but I would say that certainly an area where they need to have a gained the own and scale of of how to pitch things in the classroom before they can teach to the tall absolutely which I think resonates nicely with the point you made in our in our Christodoulou podcast about the significance of pedagogical content knowledge as advocated by showman which is that novice teachers actually need to look at the content that trying to teach with with an eye on trying to break it down into its it's more granular aspects so that pupils can comprehend it get to know where it at their pace and so that's quite complex skill skillset actually a knowledge base for for I for novice teach he does give some really good advice them in this is for any teacher but particularly for beginning teachers so in the same section establishing in those conditions he talks about behavior management on. He says he's got nice section. Use the system as a lever not a weapon yes and getting not right so that you can teach within the classroom and you use your behavior management systems. Whatever is within the school on within your classroom not to punish poor behavior but to bring about a difference in behavioral to bring about the excellent behavior that you want yes so so there are some some really good things in their agrees? I do like the way that you know he does. Although we've kind of provide a critique to a degree on the lack of research and depending his his Shakti Twenty while he does do is sign post some really useful additional authors so for example in in the example you just talking about do with behavior. He introduces bill roaches. It was a great researcher and practitioner for Novice Teachers to look too deep deep deep knowledge and understanding. He's almost a Saint Hill Road Jesus. Go wrong with Bill Rogers. I think there's some really refreshing moments as thinking about the behavior management thing. I think to some some extent Tom Sherrington is kind of in an area. That's quite fashionable at the moment in education writers no there is currently a fashion about trying to put knowledge back at the center of things. Maybe rebalancing things. I think you know that there's a lot going on with a few schools here and there in the country where they're going to a very very rigid and draconian approach to behavior management and he's not afraid to burst a few bubbles here and there in on both sides of the argument he <hes> takes down Ken Robinson's famous paper clip example you know about the fact that two year olds of got far more creative uses for paper clip than adults by saying yes but perhaps that's because we've got more quality controlling our ideas. He also says <unk> silent corridors and rigid discipline might be a means to an end at a certain point in time but there surely never the goal so although he kind of sits in a currently quite fashionable area I think his heart is more in the right place than one or two. The people we might have read recently a he is a very experienced practitioner. He's taught in lots of different institutions different types of institutions and so he is coming out this book with a good basis for what he's saying and I think it would this is why it appeals to colleagues because he is aspirational immorally saying but he's also realistic just as inure exam. uh-huh example Tom He is very realistic. In what is proposing yeah I would agree with that and actually that rings true if you look to his blog as well and and his twitter account in that he doesn't discourage or shut down as we can sometimes see on the twitter platform debate healthy debate about the issues that he raises in about his perspectives. There's a famous one actually on his blog where he talks about the Hattie run King System Anne rightly identifies the nuances within <hes> the wrong king some of the items on that list one being homework and the differences if you drill down into the detail between the effects is is of homework doc within primary context in a secondary context and actually Hattie weighed in on that forum and has a very good point to make in response so it is that healthy debate. I think that comes through more so maybe in Sherrington Burke per nestor for past yeah. I think you'll get a lot of ideas but you don't get an enormous amount of certainty on. I'm always incredibly wary of anybody giving certainties in the world of Education Yeah it is interesting. He is popular. If you look at the front of this book he has recommendations from lots of different people in there and I think he is showing respect to other educational consultants since writers et Cetera but he has a healthy skepticism as well which is probably why sort of popular across the board. I would think I think so wonder. I'm just wondering now at she. If that is very much a traitor scientist in test because sciences is always seeking to disprove itself and to find a new theory you know it's there is that kind of culture of trying to disprove existing research in order to advance so actually maybe that is the demeanor and the way the scientists is wired. Actually healthy base is is progressive strangely more comfortable with uncertainty than perhaps we might think scientists scientists in it every day yeah it's probably worth say into sorta go off on on a different tack at the moment within Wales where lookie nuts curriculum reform and looking at the new curriculum curriculum as comedian and one of the underpinning features of it as the twelve pedagogical principles and actually having a look at the aspects that he's looking at is very easy to tie these in in to the pedagogical principles so for example if he's talking about establishing we taught before establishing effective behavior routines and developing relationships that support what and self esteem motivation and their engagement with teach feedback now that fits in really nicely with at pedagogical principle eleven from and the new curriculum from Donaldson's Sen's successful futures report which asks for good teaching and learning which supports social and emotional development and positive relationships so I would suggest that for Teachers in Wales this has the added benefit of being quite pertinent to the curriculum reform and his ideas fit very nicely into how do we make this pedagogical goce co principal work in application and I think if you look at some of his ideas it will it will provide a nice step forward for it as well so nicely Lexus is actually I think I'm going to steal about tasker for curriculum designed for my not students next year what I do like as well is. He draws upon at the start of the book. His varieties is his various experiences in different educational context to explore what makes a great teacher and draws upon experience. He's had of previous teachers in previous school so kind of reinforcing the need for novice teachers and and teaches at any stage in their career to you step outside of their curriculum area their classroom and always be observing others. I think maybe this is coming from personal experience but later on in my development as a as a teacher I think the culture holt slightly change. Maybe the culture of of of stead fear Esten fear that I became less inclined to want people to come into my classroom and what we teach and I think I was probably very much influenced by that accountability disability culture but now I think I'm starting to really see benefits at any stage in your career of having somebody come in see what you do Terry pick ideas talk about pedagogy <hes> and I I like that I'd like like to think that our new teachers will embrace that I think he he likes teachers. Doesn't it not only is he aspirational for pupils and students learners. He's aspirational for his teachers and you get the impression that he really does enjoy going round seeing the different lessons. He's a science teacher but he gives us lots of good examples in the book from different subject areas. Yes things that he's relished. I think that he's appreciated. He praises the teachers so he has this aspirational realistic approach but also full of praise for other teachers which is rather nice reading and very much in keeping with the metaphor because. Is it what I really liked. It talks about within the rainforest to is that if you've got some teachers in some departments that are doing something really well. Why would you introduce a new strategy? That's hot locked in research mandate. Make it you know something everybody has to wholesale do when there is not necessarily GonNa be right for that department or that teacher. You know the difference in approach that I find quite refreshing. Yeah I love the fact that he really explicitly gives teachers permission to be Mavericks as long as that good yeah he's he says crucially even the greatest teachers and not to their optimum day in day out but their routine in Col- practice is so strong that they never fall too far from their peak which I think is a nice lesson is that you know once. We've established that core practice. Let's try and be a bit maverick. Let's keep trying to change things up a little bit. Try New the strategies. Take some some risks the same way that you'd ask our pupils to yeah definitely and he gives an enormous number of really nice strategies towards the end of the book. I mean interestingly given that. He says that he only wants twenty percent of the time to be taken cannot with these kind of creative people lead exploring the possibilities type strategies he gives loads of really nice ones and he writes so enthusiastically about them and about the great results he had with the pupils that I sometimes wonder whether the he was actually following his eighty twenty rule when he was in the classroom himself and every now and again he sort of snaps himself back in and kind of dams mode be with a bit of faint praise just to try and get himself back again but reading the final section of the book. I couldn't help feeling that his his heart was very much more in that side of things because he does set up some really nice ideas they he talks ee right on he talks about detective activities. He talks about projects. He talks about reciprocal. Teaching is is so useful in the classroom and going off piste. I read like that idea as well that you know current affairs can make.