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"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

08:10 min | 4 months ago

"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

"Answers within commander and Ben finally gets it. He finally faces this moment in his life even though he was dragged off this ship, he never really left it for three years. He's just existed here in this moment he hasn't moved on, yet he wasn't prepared for this and he never figured out how to live without her he chooses to exist here but. This is not a linear existence. This is the antithesis of everything Cisco has been trying to explain to them. Finally Sisko realizes all of this. He's able to grieve and he's able to let go of her starts to leave this moment behind they wormhole. Any liens are essentially the universes best psychologist move over troy we're taking over. Yeah that's pretty much it it. Breaks down to I mean yeah but it's it's such a it's such a pointed message you never moved past this. This moment of this is not linear. This is counter to everything that we exist as humans you have to be able that doesn't mean don't agree right it doesn't. It doesn't mean that that that you should just move on without thought of what came before, but there is a a sort of. How do I say this doesn't sound so cold in like You know. You've got to move on. This is a linear existence. Yeah. You GotTa like Oh Yeah Yeah you've you've got to go and we see what it's caused and Ben's life for the last three years. He's been at Utopia plea shipyards, and now he's about to give up his career and you know he he he's just never eaten him up. It's almost taken his life and you see how reacts to Picard and and you know his disdain for really service and yeah he's going to do it to the best of his ability, but he doesn't really WANNA be here it doesn't really want to live. So whatever right until he can finally get past it and he moves on. and. You know back on the station one hour is up cure fires all that they have across the bow of the courtesy and worships, and then puts on a bluff that would make reicher. Proud. Just when we think the bluff is working the Kardashians call their bluff and begin assaulting the station. Pew. Pew, Pew things blow up damage to the station and more people get hurt and just when it looks hopeless, the wormhole opens backup outcomes Cisco and the runabout followed by gold to coach ship who calls off the assault. Now with Cisco back on board the station he's walking noticeably a little lighter a little taller with a big smile on his face as soon as he sees Jake. And this is an interesting seeing because it's the point I made about the always having knowledge of everything, right? uh-huh and now they're like, how do the install them without our knowledge right? Well, CON-. Together. Outcomes Razor. Let's do this home say and they kind of come down to it's just a massive illusion. They don't really have things. There's no way right so yeah, we're GONNA blow them up but by the way, this particular scene became part of what made the the the premiere episode. So freaking expensive because they've built all these sets and then they blew them up and then they had to go rebuild them again. So they can continue with the show and may make things quite more expensive than it normally would have. Star, trek money by blink. Ma they did have. I WanNa say Matt and I don't have this as an official note somewhere I believe that I heard that they had a larger budget for this episode than they did for Star Trek six, which if you remember, they just made like six months earlier. Prior, to this had a bigger budget for this and they did star trek six. Elo It's the length of a movie. So it is. Yeah. Yeah. Well, to wrap up the episode station Log, the wormhole aliens have agreed to allow passage through the whole. The KARDASHIANS are gone in the enterprise is back card and Cisco are together again discussing how this is about to be one of starfleet. Outpost a center for traffic and COMMERCE CISCO ASPE- Card to ignore his request for a transfer card Kinda balks at it at first. But Cisco Assures Picard that he is. This is where he wants to be captain mccord accepts that is good enough in wishes, Cisco Luck and with all of that said, life finally seems to be underway finding a new normal and our adventure here on deep space nine begins a haven't there it is and Matt's left going. What did you just get into? I'm just hoping things settled down a little bit. Yeah. I'm I I'll honest I'm still not entirely sure what you mean by that but I will let you watch more episodes and you can tell me if you feel like it's settling down. Okay. Let's see here. Any notes that we didn't cover while I was in here let's see. Hey, fun fact this episode had two hundred and fifty special effect shots eighty one of them being full on visual effects creating the battle of will three five nine was a big one because it wasn't shown back in best of both worlds the miniature of deep space nine that they created for this episode executed several but the largest one was the miniature was six foot by six foot they use to shoot That miniature in a crate at the Christie's auction four. All whole lot of money on and the thing is beautiful I've seen it. It is gorgeous. Gorgeous can be seen in person no. I've seen just just seeing it like like on TV like in shots. I mean, as obviously you can imagine the details on it because they it was the film prop replica, right like it just it's just amazing to look when you see it like not on a star field and you like sitting in a warehouse with somebody's hands on it like it's it's Gosh, it's scored anyway This episode had actually twenty four minutes of footage cut out of the final episode, one of those scenes and actually kind of wish they would have left us in there and the director really wants them to put all these scenes back in because he says, it completes the story that may be. Confused it may not have been as confusing. Yeah. It really may not. But one of those scenes was where Cisco actually returns the ORB to pocket sends it back This episode was nominated for four Emmys at one one of them for outstanding achievement and special effects. The other nominations were for art direction, sound editing, sound mixing, and the composer for the brand new theme song and everything he also won an emmy so. I guess that actually makes it five emmys and they want to and yeah, I, think that's it for for the notes that I have that are worth talking about here tonight matt time to boil it down. You've started your adventure here on deep space nine. We've got a little bit of next generation left. We've got a whole lot of voyager left among other episode among other series but what are your thoughts outside of? The episode was a mass and all of that. But just as we start this idea of deep space nine, you've met the profits you've the new crew you certainly met the Kardashians in you know what they're capable of just from what we've seen in in in next generation what are your thoughts as we as we begin this new adventure into yet another series of START I am not so hot on this episode but I'm I am very curious to see where these space nine goes. Fantastic. Fantastic. If you watch this again but the only correct answer there is yes. For when you go back to your big rewatch and it's this one I'll be honest this is very much necessary viewing to understand that the as most pilots or premiere episodes. Are you know you've got to know what's going on? All right well, our next episode. Yeah. This is going to be another deep space nine episode I have debated whether or not to do this one but I think this one is important for reasons of getting out of the pilot and understanding what deep space nine as like in a day to day life and and I think it, it emphasizes and clarify some things from the pilot. So so the name of this episode is called past prologue plus there's a character you absolutely have to meet. You haven't met and you're going to love the scare at least I. Hope you're GonNa love this car anyway that said there's no extra viewings between that episode in this when I think this episode three, I want to say in production order it the second episode that was produced it doesn't really matter we're not GonNa get a the episode in between abyss will be passed. We're only by the way for folks out there wondering Orleans four episodes from season one, us. So this is the second one we will be doing matt that's going to do it for us this week. And that's going to do it for us in our premiere episode here on Young. Hey. What did you guys think about this episode out there what do you think about getting a started here? Ana Run through deep space nine what episodes would you like to see covered I am making these nine episodes.

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"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

05:40 min | 4 months ago

"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

"Okay. Fly kind of starting to see it through. Those is of of non linear time and how it is experienced the other thing I was just having this conversation somebody the. Other day remember wormhole is a tear through the fabric of space and time not just space. So the idea that aliens living inside of tear that is within the tear. That is within the fabric of space and time means they live outside of space and time gives the gives it a whole new thing as well. You know especially as we're meeting these beings that have become gods to the people of Major which is interesting to see how they treat the quote unquote profits or the wormhole aliens or or our anyway. So so I do need clarify something though has. This this actually kinda confused it a little bit more for me. Sure. These things they keep referring to as the orbs the ORBS aren't the lifeforms, right? No because they're non corporeal, right so like but I like it seemed really weird when the ORB returned DAX. That's what made me think like Oh, they. Sent her a they brought her back to the ship. Then went back to their wormhole or something, but that's not really what happened but it's like Do they just have an unlimited supply of these orbs? Thought were ten but or nine or whatever but it's now it's like they can just send him out whenever I want. That would actually be the the Tenth ORB, right? Saw Right. So the I don't know how many orbs the wormhole aliens have or if they can just create them or if they create them but the idea of these orbs, it's almost like a video game matt where like each orb does something different like there's the orb of time and there's the ORB of piracy and there's the orb of prosperity and there's the orbit of. Like whatever they all do and I don't think that we ever let me tell you what's going to happen. Cisco's not going to go on a mission to to find an unite all of the orbs in an ultimate bid to defeat goal do cod at the end of the series. That's not what's going to happen. This is not we're not collecting corks here you know what I mean. But. That would be an interesting. What happens it will say the orbs that the use of the word or though for these things does bother me to some extent because it's not an. ORB. Round right. Like it's not an orb like I mean almost more like kind of our shaped tank for for my for my memory. Yeah it's about. What really come up with a better word than orb. You're right. You're not wrong. You're not I'm glad I'm not alone. Well, we're going to get back to those hauliers here in just a minute but for now back on the station, the crew preparing to launch a rescue mission this wormhole is not a natural phenomenon. It was probably created by the same aliens that created these orbs not only that the Kardashians are headed for that. Didn Aureus Belt Cure realizes that the wormhole might reshape this entire sector of. The quadrants and she has a bright idea. Let's move the station to the mouth of the WORMHOLE Bay Jordan needs to stake this claim they figure out how to make it happen, and we'll contact starfleet to get the enterprise to come back only they're pretty far away that said Kira Dax to miss your head out on a runabout, and Oh yeah, is coming to it just so happens that he was found in the enormous belt as well. He doesn't. Know. Who He is or where he's from, and this is a chance to find out those answers as already kind of interested in Oto now I'm even more. So make giving that backstory to I mean, let him find out more about where he comes from and if there are more of him or if he's the only one hold onto that thought hold onto that acts six back in the wormhole. SISKO is still talking to the Nanka boreal aliens they. Debate destroying. CISCO CISCO. Insist he hasn't come to hurt anyone. He's there representing the people that they've contacted. He's not their enemy and he wants to prove it allow them to probe as memories of the past. But Oh, yeah they have no concept of linear time either he's GonNa keep working on this back on I always find it interesting that these says I'm representing the people that you have chosen to contact and they're kind of like we contacted people. What do you mean? What are you talking anyway back on nine O'Brien is having a lovely conversation with the computer. There's a lot of techno babble boat O'Brien works but O'Brien works like I do when I'm running a GIG and manages to get the station moving in the computer are going to need to have a little chat after this yet that's that's very interesting part. Computer is not. Like, it's not quite as subservient as as the starfleet computers. Computers, it's like it has attitude and little bit of you know. I it's almost feels like a little more advanced. In like instead of just saying like instead of telling you up front that I can't do this because of security protocol it's like no I'm not GonNa do that why do that Oh because it'll break this rule like well, why don't you just say them first place computer come on Don't man right scale like I i. think these interactions could be something good. But if I'm being honest this episode, they are a little bit just kind of frustrating. And more frustrating and almost annoying them than than funny. But I think they'll figure it out you. Hope you hope. So Hey, quick flash to the RUNABOUT KAREN OTO or having a conversation with do kat basically the Kardashians are going to try to get these wormhole aliens. are going to try to get out of these one holdings whatever they can. Maybe they won't be so hostile to us. You caught says, well, we'll see about that back in the wormhole aliens continue to explore bins life starting with Jennifer she is a part of his existence Cisco tries to explain the idea that she is now dead, but they don't really comprehend that idea either Cisco tries to tell. Them about the nature of linear existence how each day shapes all the days that come after this particular memory is the one where been Jennifer decided to start a family. It's a very sweet seen the.

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"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

06:37 min | 4 months ago

"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

"Earned the rank. So I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. Well, why don't we continue You already mentioned that Jesse gets of those flashy memory things where she we see her receiving her symbiotic from the old man. which makes reference makes sense down in the medical office. Oh, one of my favorite scenes curious showing Bashir around everything is disheveled and broken and Bashir loves it. He goes on and on about this being the frontier land and becoming a hero and having his pick of any posting that he wanted and cure is only slightly miffed this wilderness as he calls, it is her home, and now we get to watch Bashir tried to pull that foot out of his mouth. Yeah. I have feeling. He's going to be a little bit of A. I don't know how to describe him. He's just a young guy that's just. Vichy. I don't mind telling you Bashir will be the single character who goes through the most growth outside of Jake because Jake explodes over the course of the season. But he? Yeah. Cuban. I guess the best way to put it is is is going to be. More bones and less crusher. I it's hard to say because Bashir really is kind of his own thing shears his own thing he really is. I. was just the initial vibe that I get from though it yeah it's not as serious as crusher. That is true. That is true. But Bashir also doesn't have his own kit doesn't have his own kid that he's responsible for he's not the head of he's not GonNa be the head of starfleet. Doctor Very long he just graduate, right? Yeah. So you know he's he's that guy who you know he knows everything and he was top of his class and now he's out at his first job. That's essentially who Bashir is and he's looking for adventure got out of the small town wherever he came from and he's out looking for insurance. So Oh, by the way, he's really smart to catch that aren't tail. Yeah. He's. He's like he was he would he would have been Valedictorian. Class except he. Made One teeny tiny little mistake So he he's Super Smart Anyway back on the Enterprise Miles O'Brien is taking one last walk around the ship. He tries to avoid capture card but just as about as just as he's about to transport away but card shows up, they have a heartfelt and meaningful good bye as miles Edward. O'Brien makes is transferred to deep space nine complete and with captain mccart himself energizing the beam and with that the enterprise flies away don't usually go with them when they do that. Aw as I'll have to say about this scene. Yeah. I'm I'm really glad they put this one in although I do appreciate that O'Brien has a favorite transporter room. Transported Room Three. Yes exactly. Exactly. That's one of those little like Star Trek Trivia things. That you just you know. Anyway, I do Kinda wonder when he towards the end of this episode when he he's in on on the space station I don't think it's transport. What is he referencing? Then there is something where where he says, you can find me in like. Or something like that or like something see upper high on C. sure. Yeah. So you remember you know as nine has those those six. Right, there's upper and lower the pylons it's where it's where the ships dock. You the that's where the big ships dock and the the ring that goes around the outside of deep space nine can actually fit much smaller ships all around show like this is a space station where a lot of ships can dock all at the same time. Yeah. But the really big ones like a class starship after have to go up to the pylons. Okay. So so it just made me wonder though if you know okay, they don't number there is there are lettered and ABC, one, two three you went to third. One area. Oh, industrial or not. That's funny. It's his favorite pylon Upper Muncie. Yep there you go I I am glad they put this up the scene in the like we this would have been weird. It was just a look O'Brien got transferred and they they're like this one I think made it feel legit to me. Yeah. It made it legitimized like it wasn't just a hey there's just pulling somebody over which is what they're doing, but it gave it an in universe like we we see what happens with that on numerous way. I think it was their opportunity to show you. People don't people come and go from chefs, people change occupations, change careers change. Whatever get promotions demotions just change location whatever and this is their opportunity to actually show how let my look exact exact I. It's it's. It's like always talk about like there's other families on board, but we don't usually see what they're what they're doing, what they're up to and so is just one of those instances when yes this is something that happens and speaking of family by the way just just. So you remember I don't know if you remember episodes that we skipped miles has a wife whose name is Keiko and they have risen this one she was okay. Ka was in this one really. I, she was mentioned in this one for sure I. Don't know if she was actually in it there was one lady. That O'Brien was talking to. It seemed to be some like private quarters that I thought maybe could have been here but I think we dexterous got the backwards. was. Her Yeah because I'm pretty sure she didn't make her appearance till the next episode. Unless you watch, she was mentioned for sure she. She definitely was mentioned for sure because she is an established character on star trek as a whole as is their daughter Molly who was birthed in an elevator by war. Okay. Just just a little. I think I mentioned that one. I don't remember so so the the family dynamic, you know we'll be following up on that and we'll have our conversation about the miles and Keiko relationship as well. Now's not the time for act for a courtesy and ship is coincidentally approaching the station justice. The Enterprise left goal do pot the former commander of the station and head of the occupation forces coming to say, hi, do tries to SCHMOOZE CISCO, but he gets to a pretty quick. He knows that Cisco went to see. Oh Pocket and brought back one of those orbs and he wants that ORB CISCO sees right through all this pretence denies knowing anything about an orb no matter. Then they'll stay close by you know just in case he changes his mind and in the meantime, some of Dukakis men will quote unquote enjoy the hospitality of the promenade what could go wrong Well, I I want an episode focused on a day in the wife of the Kardashian intelligence officer. Okay because they are always on top. Like they have top notch intelligence all the time every time they come over to the enterprise every time they come spaced night. It's like Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Hey by the way, I know exactly all the secret plans you've been doing..

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"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

06:57 min | 4 months ago

"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

"Bit frosty at this point, the need a lot of help in recovering from the courtesy and occupation picard would like to see them one day joined the federation but there's a lot of work to be done I. He tells Sisko that it's his mission to do everything short of violating the prime directive to make them ready and also turns out that CISCO Objected to this assignment from starfleet, it's pretty simple. He has a son that he's raising now alone, and he also understands that starfleet officers don't always get to choose environments that are fit for families which CISCO REPLIES WITH THAT'S WHY I'm looking at civilian life back on Earth Powell card says ill-advised starfleet to begin looking for a replacement, but then Cisco will emphatically do his job to the best of his ability. Sir. Well, that was awkward. Yeah. So this is isn't the first time I really hope was the first time. Okay. So this is this was the first time that I noticed it in this episode and I it comes up again later to that some of these characters just really. and. Maybe it's because as mishmash of different crews and species and everything kind of thrown together 'cause I. I understand why Cisco is unhappy with Card right I understand why he doesn't have the same respect truecard as the average person that meets, but it still feels wrong from everything else that we've seen right right I. It's one thing to have your enemies hate you for or whatever. The card, Asan's are upset with you find. That's one thing the Romulus upset with the fine whatever. But to have someone sitting across from you in a starfleet uniform and not liking card vol people rights and I mean. You could go back and make the argument that while he was there enemy at one point and that's why he's upset with him but it just feels strained from every the rations we see from everybody else when when they meet the car like usually people are like super excited to be cards like, Oh, I've. Flagship right captain, the Enterprise. Let's sit down. Let's have dinner. Okay but it's like, yeah, I. Now see Cisco and he's like, yeah, this is the last person wouldn't be talking to I. Want to get out of this room as soon as possible. And like he he consistently like erupts picard. And gives him this attitude like, wow, and like we see a little bit of this later to not with the card or anything. But I I just noted it because it felt so strange from the interactions between officers that we are used to seeing on the enterprise and this came later when Oto wants to come along on the mission and like everybody I think cure was in charge at that point 'cause 'cause Cisco was absent but like cures like no, you gotta stay here and protect shipping and like he's not putting up with it like I can't picture you know warf basically talking down to everybody in saying no, I'm coming along. That's the final word. and. That's basically what we see. Auto do Mike Right that feels brong but I think more than anything just feels different from what we're used to here. Yeah and so I don't know if that's going to be a regular thing going into the series or if it's just kind of. Still getting used to each other and creating for lack of a better phrase that chain of command I want you to now put yourself into the position of star. Trek. Fans particularly those who had been fan since the original series right and they went through all those reruns through the seventies they went through the movies in the early eighties they've been through. Maybe, they finally accepted next generation and all of a sudden. We're now seeing all this fighting. This is not the starfleet way. This is not the Star Trek Way. What is this new thing that is here claiming to be? Star, Trek this isn't real star Trek. This D roddenberry would be rolling over in his grave. You see what happens when roddenberry passes away and he's no longer in control. We now have conflict and people home. Enter into Star Trek fandom two oh one matt. This is it, and every time we have a new iteration of Star Trek. This begins again There's GonNa be some change that he'd like and here at beam me up we love all star Trek. It's all fine and it's all cannon and we're going to embrace it all even if it's different, I'm just putting that out there because it's it's in the end. This is not the end. No this is where we start and Yeah Oto Oto says a little bit different speaking of Oto. Let's jump back into this back on the station Cisco has changed into his new uniform. John Notice did you notice meeting with quark and Oto but he's not gonNA. Let Quark. Leave the station. He needs to be a community leader to get the other shopowners to stay quark literally laughs in his face but that's when Cisco pulls the nephew card get him out of jail if you stay an Oto has a newfound appreciation for Cisco does he? Oh Yeah, a appreciation feels like strong. What, what's he? What's he say? He literally I think he says you know I didn't think I would like him or something of that nature. I guess he did says something like that but he does it in that gravity auto. Quark I didn't think I was GONNA like Yeah. The new, the new uniform, the station uniform did you notice at all I don't know that I noted change now now so that the new uniform it actually looks very much like the starfleet cadet uniform. We saw back in the first duty it's black from here down and there's the just the shoulders are the chaos i. That leader in the episode Yeah Yeah I don't know at a notice the change per se but I noticed it later in the episode like has it always been like that like I try to picture what like the old uniforms like or you know next Gen uniforms or like I should've looked up pickers probably by I didn't even think about rewinding the beginning of this episode your but there's so like like there's there's the the explanation for this is the next generation uniform where it's the color is the main color and then it has the black. To highlight it. I guess or whatever light it. Those are the uniforms that you use on ships. These are the uniforms, you using stationary places, Star bases, space, station, starfleet, command, various things like that. It's just this black deal with the with the V-NECK Now, eventually, that's going to overtake and become the new uniform across the the all starfleet. The other explanation is that starfleet is now in the midst. Of changing their uniform and instead of just saying, hey, everybody replicate new new forms. It's like they do it as new places come online. So like this is a new space station so the new to the space station gets new uniforms. If there's a new ship, the new ship will get the new uniforms whereas is everybody else is still using the old uniforms..

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"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

05:57 min | 4 months ago

"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

"Citizens who is is watching all of the superheroes they're saying and and and Caused Commotion Destroy Everything and and so we get that a little bit but yeah, right yeah. Obviously has a different objective and then we also get and this really comes up later on. So maybe we should save this conversation but it plants the seed right here like we saw a card get abducted. We saw how horrible that was. We saw a card comeback we saw picard go. Through his remorse and his sort of therapy episode and we've seen Picard Sense. But if we ever stop to think about the people who suffered at the hands of when they look at a guy like card and that's all that they can see is the death and suffering of La- happened like we we set that up for a little bit but that's also who we get here and talk about that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's save that conversation from when we. Get there but I just I to me. This was a brilliant way to bring back in or at least set up again got set up the backstory of who these people are and where they're coming from finishing out the prologue present day a somewhat more cheerful commander Sisko is coming to get his son Jake who isn't having much luck fishing appear they're headed to a space station in orbit of the newly freed Beige Bayshore. Hey, remember that from last episode. Asiya pulled out speaking of which CISCO GETS. A message that they've arrived at wait a minute. This isn't a pond it's a hollow deck they had out agreeing to take the pond with them and from out of a window they and we get our first look of deep space nine, which is the space station a year. Yes, and it's huge. Did you catch an idea of the size of it like when you saw the the enterprise right up next to it? I. Think. That's the best thing because I mean, I don't have a grasp of how big some other are. But I know how big the enterprise is and is supposed to be compared everything else. So yeah. When an prize pulled up next to it, it's like Oh okay. That's a pretty big station, right but yeah, it's it's interesting. Yeah. Then the credits roll and and I I I appreciate it these credits especially for my purposes that they gave me I, it wasn't just a list of actor names right? It was a list of actors as characters. Okay. Cool. I don't think. I've ever thought about that before but okay I I made a list of them decide. Okay if I've run across. I should know who they are. Yes, there, there are eight people in this list, his commander Sisko Right Oto Doctor Bashir Lieutenant, DAX Jake, Sisko, hot chief O'Brien, a cork, and Major Kira when you saw chief. O'Brien did you go wait a minute did that click and yet when you saw chief O'Brien? Chief O'Brien and coal meany like I recognize the name may even like. Okay. So you did recognize it just from seeing the name in the opening credits. Yes. So I knew who it was I didn't know what role he is going to play but psychot-, okay you made opening credits could you? There you go. Yeah, and Kiera. Hey let's talk real quick about two things having to do with the opening credits while we don't usually talk about the opening credits, but it's a new show. So let's talk about the version that you saw what happened at the end of the credits. Do you remember I can tell you okay for for most people I it's you know it's a panning shot of like an asteroid going by, and then it goes over pans around the space station while it gives you all the opening names and then it gives you an establishing shot. The thing of the the space station while runabout flies away and then the wormhole opens up the the. The little runabout flies into the space station and it shuts off and that's the end of the thing of the opening credits except for when they originally aired the pilot, they didn't have the wormhole open at the end of the credits because they hadn't discovered yet, and they wanted to save surprise of that effect of of it popping open in the show I didn't even think about it and I I wasn't paying close enough attention yet. I'm going to have to I never noticed that until I read about a in research for this particular episode I never knew that now granted I didn't watch deep space nine until a bout, probably ten years after it premiered. You saw original I never I did not see the original run of the not come to star Trek until voyager was airing. So this this again was a bit before my time. So I don't know if I've ever seen that particular episode without the wormhole opening up, they did eventually change it to the one with the whole opening up as they put it on repeat I'm not sure why they would go back and change it because you've got to be intentional to. Go do that but that's that's just a little note about that. For those of you. If you ever if you're wondering if you're getting the original show, it's the one without the hormones the only episode in the entire run that doesn't have the wormhole open up at the end of the credits for no reason not yet the other person I wanNA point out and we'll do the. We'll do the character spotlight later but a reese let's talk about her just for a second. We got that in this episode Oh, you didn't you didn't well remember she's joined. So her her family name is actually Kira and her first name, her her family name would be nervous or have a personal name like role Aaron rose her family name but learns her personal anyway speaking of role Aaron, and if you remember going all the way back to that particular episode of Next Generation I debated for a long time whether or not to put in in the show right. But I did because it introduced the Ba-. To US and turns out to be join. We're going to be pretty big as you may guess now at this Point Matt A star. Trek universe. Right. This show was originally meant to have ro Laren as the number one officer on deep space nine. Right next to commander Sisko That's how it was written. That's why the space station is in orbit of Major. That's why the Kardashians are. Now the bad guys that's why the show is set up the way it is except Michelle Forbes who played insen row decided she didn't want to be in a series so she opted out weird and so Michael Piller. And Rick Berman had to go back and they had to rewrite like three scenes and they all they did was instead of changing the whole thing they just turned. into. into major care but they they felt like it actually worked out in their in their favor because now they could have Kira as a.

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"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

06:27 min | 4 months ago

"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

"Look that was his avery brooks is look for whatever reason the production really wanted to distance him from that role. So they made him goatee and grow out his hair. Now I don't mind telling you that. Well, let me let me back up every Brooks says even to this day that he always had a hard time with this new look 'cause it never felt like him. So if there were places where his performance feels stiff and unnatural for whatever reason, the way he looked affected, how he was acting and how he how he changed eventually, he will come back to the The producers and be like, Hey, can I just go back to my to my old look and they will let him do that and I am telling you when that happens when you see the goatee and then when you see him shave his head the this that is a marking point to this series where everything just skyrockets including avery's performance and I'm not saying every was bad in these first several seasons but Different different little things you're like, what are you doing? Some of that really has to do with for whatever reason he was just uncomfortable in front of the camera with this look that he had, and it's as simple as that. It's just as simple as that. Every is going to go on to appear in every single episode of Deep Space Nine. He will be here for all seven seasons however, Matt he did almost leave the show during the early years but after having a conversation with his own son about what it means to keep your word and your promise, you decided that he was going to stay the length of his contract and the length of the run of the show during the show mention he became a professor at his Alma matter he started doing classes in his costume sometimes video recording his lesson in sending it, VHS Those that really dates. Back, to the back to the the university to have his lecture, he will also join the growing list, of Star, Trek Alumni who turned directors, and he will direct nine episodes of deep space nine during his run here. But Matt like so many others I will always remember Brooks best for his role on the hit animated series Gargoyles. Are That's not true. I'm going to remember it's been cisco the most but he like so many other star Trek people had a on Gargoyles. All Right Matt now that you are fully versed in who every says who are commander Sisko is, why don't we go through this episode? Say. Thirty two minutes into the show. All right. Here we go. Emissary can't even call it one into this premiered as a single episode in syndication. Later, they split it into two, but it really was just one Oh. Let's also talk about that just real quick. The reason this isn't a pilot and it's a premier is because it opened with a full season order like a pilot is let's shoot it and see if it has legs and if and they'll see if somebody wants to pick it up that wasn't the case it began already having a full season order ready. To Go. So this was just the premiere episode. Okay, just. So you know that said prologue the time is three years ago. The place is the battle of Wolf three, five, nine, a card is low cutest and the borger kicking the tail of the entire Federation Fleet. This is the scene that we didn't get to see the best of both worlds on one of those ships in the battle, the US. Saratoga it gets caught in the board tractor beam suddenly in explosion, not only rocks the bridge but it. Damages the word core surviving senior officer, commander Ben CISCO ORDERS EVAC of the entire ship. The only problem is he can't find his family. It wasn't just the bridge got rocked. The rest of the ship is in pretty bad order as well. Cisco eventually finds son who was injured but alive, and then he finds his wife who is already dead buried beneath the rubble against his will cisco is dragged from that room leaving her there as he escapes on the escape pod watching from the window as the ship. Lowe's up. So this is the huge battle scene while battle going poorly seeing that we don't see on Star Trek right and if you remember in best of both worlds, we only caught came to the tail end of it because of budgetary concerns, they could actually show us the battle. So here they created the battle of Wolf three, five nine for us to actually see what happened. They created five minutes of it from from one ships. Perspective s well right but it's more than what we got about old. Enough but yes, this was the one. Yeah it's. Really fast paced and lots of explosions and a lot of confusion because I know zero of these people. Right and I like other than okay. I guess we're following Cisco around but at the time I don't know who Cisco is and I don't even know his name really and it's like I don't know who I should be paying attention to and like. Part part clicked through like this is going to be there. They're introducing a whole crew and it's not going be on his five minutes. Like that's a weird opening. But yeah. So like because we really only get who we get out we we get Cisco and get Jake we get jake in the next scene. Yeah and I guess Jennifer is used it enough to die. We know were relations does come back a little bit later but the Now. Now, look at my notes. I, think there's a mention of a Doran Dorian no clue. Okay. There might have been I have never been. Talking back ever again. So because It was CISCO, shouting out names and I think that was the first one and then Jennifer Jake and we we only picked up Jennifer Jake later on it so. Okay whatever Yeah Dow was the opening and I mean, but the thing about the idea that were picking up the story of somebody else in starfleet was affected by one of the biggest events and starfleet history right Alpha Alpha quadrant history specifically. And we're gonNA Kinda followed them. We're gonNA, see what happened with them, and in this case he lost his wife almost lost a son lost his ship and. Basically devastating yeah. What was a beep lottery? A different episode and saying, Hey, we're going to make a series out of this. Yeah. Yeah. You have always wondered about Matt like in Superhero Movies is the person in the office building that get smashed up by the two superheroes or the Superhero in the Super Building Villain Smith fighting in middle of downtown New York like what about the guy who office was that window that just got a smashed in by Spiderman throwing daugh- through the wall and you know? I. Guess we don't get like what about that person's Day? Out of the every man, but I think that's kind of the feeling that I get from. Jj Jameson Right. Right yeah. Like he has a little bit higher seat of power but I mean, he is that guy who? Who who's watching kind of?.

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"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

05:59 min | 4 months ago

"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

"Be One of those things I it to like making a movie from a book where they're so much content you basically when you make the movie, you have to pick the core. Storyline and stick with that and do all of that content, and if things don't stick to that if it just sort of supplemental, those are the things that have to fall away, and that's how we're GONNA take the pick and choose these episodes is there is a core story that is running through this entire series and we're going to do the episodes that relate to that. Core story if that makes sense and the ones that will fall away the ones that will follow it will be the ones that don't affect that core story that doesn't mean that that's not happening. It doesn't mean they're not good. It doesn't mean it's not a worthy rewatch and you absolutely should go back and watch this entire series when you can binge it properly. Okay but. For us and our purposes here this is changing from the way we've done next generation and even the way we've done to us. So you'll you'll you'll understand the core of what deep sign is about by the time we're done, which is really the. The point here you know. So with that Matthew, one more thing to get to before we get into the episode. And there's a lot to talk about here character actor spotlights or what we're doing I want to go through these relatively quickly. Let's start with a few people that we know that we see there. You've already mentioned Patrick Stewart is here as you only picard and Lacunas of board. And also profit picard and profit board look as well. Mark Elias is back as goal do Kat now Matt we have mentioned Markle Lima several times here. Recently, I've been dropping his name on purpose fairly heavily for you most recently Matt. Do you remember where you saw the folks out there would know this so just you and I, would know this right now. Should I was an extra viewing episode that we did call Times Ero oh okay. Market Lima the Guy who plays gold was the the card sharp the guy in the red suit, the card shark at the at the table with data. He also, we've also seen him in next generation a handful of times before playing other Kardashians, playing a Romulo on all the way back in season one. But I I don't mind telling you that market. Lime Oh is gonNA leave his mark on star. Trek, through the character of Gold Ikat who's going to reappear kind already some is himes. Yeah. Times, over the course of human in in like these past two episodes. I, kind of figure like this is going to get things he'll be a guy you've kind of. Driven it home a little bit with the. Kardashians. Now, and it's like, okay they're going to be thing now they're in the introductory episode, the Premiere episode of Deep Space. Nine. I don't think they're going away anytime soon right? Exactly, and it's going to be used the former commander of the station. So there's GonNa be a lot there. All right anyway finally as far as people that we already know we have called me back who is playing chief miles. Edward O'Brien. Matt you know him. You just didn't know that you love him, but you will love him. Now he is here as a series regular on the show he is making the transition. We're going to talk more about calm later on a future spotlight someone to save everything about him for for a future show But that is obvious transitioning over. Can I just say now do I feel like he's going to be the Geordie of the series? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly and there's a there's a theme I. Don't know if we're going to watch it I. Don't Know How many times we're GonNa hit it there sort of this running gag in deep space nine the if they don't know what to do like they're trying to make an episode they gotTa Fill Up twenty-six Twenty six season right and they don't know what to do for an episode. The mantra is make O'Brien suffer. And there's Matt. If we ever come back and do like a series of episodes, it will be O'Brien suffering episodes because they're they're terrific I I. I believe it 'cause like e I mean even just in this in this first episode. It's like they. Give Him all the worst equipment and like he? He knows he should be able to make it work but it's it's not. Yeah Right. Right and kicks the console. You'RE GONNA, you're, GonNa, love, O'Brien, and. You're you're gonNA O'Brien has one of the best. Well. We'll say what we'll get into your O'Brien Iran's great. You'RE GONNA love anyway So those are characters you know let's talk about a couple of new characters Matt Now there are a lot of new characters and kind of like we did with next generation I'm not going to go through all of them here. Basically, I'll wait till we get to A. centric episode on that character, and then we'll highlight that particular person so I wanNA give you a few people that I want to highlight. That may not make that particular type of highlight Abbott, I just WANNA point them out here because they're in the pilot episode I young haranguing who gets arrested corks nephew his name is Nog is play by guy named. Aaron Eisenberg, who in our world in real life just recently passed away. So r.i.p Saharan he he's he means a lot to the star Trek community We are going to see a lot more from Nog as we go on. He's actually in more episodes than Gold Dukakis. So he he would be around quite a bit Now, the Frankie boss who was ever. So, briefly, on camera as it was panning across quark's bar, right after they reopened okay that Guy's name is rob and he is played by a guy named. Max Gruden Grodin. Grodin chick now Rahm will later be revealed to be Cork's brother who has father and he'll he'll. He like he inaugural just sort of be they're not series regulars but they are regular occurring. Like I kinda wondered if his brother was still alive even or on on the station or whatever because like the way that the court came in and Kinda defended him and it's like he's my brothers boy. Lake I at at that point wasn't sure. It's like, okay. is his brother still around to take care of him or are you in charge of him even though he's not your son right? That was my first gas was like, oh That's his son and they quickly cleared that up I'm like he's members boy. Okay. Got It. Nephew rights right and you'll you'll meet Raum you'll get to know Rome. Really. Well, you'll get NOG pretty well..

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"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

07:05 min | 4 months ago

"emissary" Discussed on Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

"Final. Frontier. About saving the few humanitarian. This huge victory. Graduate. Commitment to this course of action is not emotion. Welcome to another episode of Beam me up a star Trek podcast. My name is Brent Allen and I've seen every episode of Star Trek forty-seven. Times. Wow, and I've met Santa Very. This is my first time through the series, not just these series, but all the series because Matt while this may be the show where we are on a mission to introduce as many people as we handle the Star Trek, universe by watching the most important episodes that the the lore history in timeless message of star. Trek this is your first time watching a brand new star trek series, deep space nine and I can't wait to get into this one today. Well, just like these face nine can tie together. The board custodians the joins our website can tie. Together our PODCAST, our social media enter email. So if you want to get a hold verse and look no further than be me about dot com, that's place to be. We'll see to today's episode as I just referenced is the very first episode of Deep Space Nine titled Emissary or as I like to call it, don't call it a pilot. It's a premier in case you guys didn't watch this when I this is the one where the brand new commander been Cisco actually he's not new he's been around for a while, but he's new to US Bender Benjamin Sisko takes command of the Space Station has a whole bunch of issues including his own personal ones to deal with throughout the course of the episode Matt. Before we get into all the nitty gritty of the episode, you've watched face nine, the first episode, the Premiere Episode, give us your opening thoughts as we come out of this. I'm sorry. Before we do that, let's remind people real quick. You have just come off of next generation watching chain of command. And this is the for people out there who may be wondering like this was the next episode of Star Trek that aired on TV when people were originally watching it chain of command. Yeah. Chain of command is setup emissary for us with one quick little line at the very beginning of the episode, and then gave us a real deep look into the bad guys that we're going to get to know. And going forward because the the two shows really are companion shows that go hand in hand oftentimes cross their subject matter even though they're not always crossover episode, we're going to watch these in air date order of the original you know original airings of all these episodes. So that's where we are. That's what you're coming off of were not done with next generation yet you are just now starting were mixing in deep space nine opening thoughts surf. If you please, it's it's a mess I, space station or the show let's get other both oh my. It's it's. I mean it's. Maybe not like from production standpoint it like maybe they know they're doing, but it's a lot to take in. Yes. I mean even with my limited knowledge of Star Trek and I can see more. So why you have you watched Pacific episodes to might be tied these three episodes into this first episode of Deep Space Nine. Okay. I wasn't expecting that. That's that's but it's a lot of content and a lot of I just don't know where to start with this episode and and I honestly think that this transition episode he will is just going to be a lot messier than what is dot com or at least I hope okay I like I. Hope Things get into a little bit more of a routine i. hope things get a little bit clearer about who's who in like. It's because right now like we got this massive leg up, we got the card and O'Brien already know. But then you know we got all these new characters and then we keep getting flashbacks to his old ship and like what what are we doing here? All in good time matthew all in good time Yes. I one hundred percent know what you mean. I always say met most television shows you and I have talked about this a ton of times. Yeah. Deep Space Nine has no different. The first several seasons can be really really rough. Yeah. They really can be because your your introducing new characters the writers are getting to know the characters. The actors are getting to know the characters things were fleshing out. They may try something that doesn't work. Let's switch it for the next episode different things that are happening all the time most of the actors and. I I think you're only marginally aware of this Baloney make it super clear right. Now, most of these actors are Shakespearean Stage, actors, which they're making that his still doing that they are, but they're also making the jump to to Syria to series television some for the first time some maybe for a second or third time something like that. But this is really a new jump for them, and so there's a little bit of carrying that over go ahead you would think Patrick Stewart would have some tips for the new comers like he he he he should have like a onboard course that they have to take. From episode one everyone else I i. mean. The fact that he's been at it for five six years now. So if he's working with them at least on this first episode, I don't know how often we'll see him I'm assuming he's not going to be in every episode, but that would be a fair assumption. I think that'd be kind of weird and probably a little bit overload but it's I think they have people not only associated with the show, but directly working with the show that have made that type of transition before right. So give them give them few tips if you pointers make that transition easier. These episodes matter always hard to do they. They really are and and when I went into the research on this episode Matt I I can promise you and I will tell you this was by far man I, mean not even close the longest noted episode that we have ever done on be me up. The notes for this episode just kept going on and on and on and on about the the the concept, the development, the struggles that they had, what it meant while they were to do that while they were doing next Gen, the things that they were going to carry over things that they weren't is there some things that they that they had that they had? Gotten experience on next Gen that they just brought over like like makeup. Now, there's still some makeup issues that are going to be changed in tweaked as we go forward and you'll notice those is that happens but for the most part they know how to do make up they know how to build a set they know how to light it. They know how to. Position they're all the technical stuff of creating an episode they know how to do that. What does it mean to to outfit this with this particular group of characters, this particular actors with these back stories and bringing all this together for the very first time..

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"emissary" Discussed on D. J. Swales Gothic Horror Tales

D. J. Swales Gothic Horror Tales

03:59 min | 4 months ago

"emissary" Discussed on D. J. Swales Gothic Horror Tales

"Of. Fine boned nose cheeks and forehead Sean like bone with an intricate tattoos cut into its surface. The black holes in the nearby skulls mirrored her eyes and mouth which were ringed with coal ashes and surrounding lines of INDIGO. Ecuador averted his gaze in horror back towards the skinned and fleshless animal heads seem to watch from the walls. The slum kids swarmed in certain carthage streets regionally flowed such trophies of death. He had been approached himself but only haggled for lions in sizes and a few wolves vertebrae, which is decorated his necklace. Half feral populations of destitution disease citizens regularly trapped wild animals from meat and for. especially. The Flea is in rabble that lived by the city's dumps. where? Is grilled a roaring trade in cheap cuts and awful. Baal and Tanit imposed godly justice upon the vagrant trappers as they. Themselves often fell prey to the giant bears, silent wolves and nighttime hyenas that opportunistically stopped the city's fringes to tear out of the Bushland without warning. Prides of smooth muscle, barbary lions, and solitary leopards also infested the surround. All drawn to the dump by clouds of slick feathered Carrion feeders. Soaring High unfeted Thermals Crows buzzards vultures mark the way to the easy flesh of the dump sickly inhabitants who offered little resistance to teeth and claws. One I beg a child deliberately maimed a birth had solely tempted his purse with the nodule skull of a male baboon that recently being trapped, disembowelled and skinned at the dump. Cradling it in his hands. The sailor had marveled at the length of the old beast teeth but declined the purchase. A foolish decision and quite a loss as child had definitely picked his pocket anyway. Groups of feral booms originally imported and bred to be lucrative Lee exploited to from vacation played the slums. They were infected with mange with Bali one good hab between them. They were much-feared terrorists like Diana versions of the malevolent serpent. People. From their flaking faces. DEMONIC IS SPIDER SHANTY WINDOWS FOR MOTHERS WHO briefly turn their backs from their newborns. Screens ripped the aristander when they returned mill contests bad to an empty cradle. The invasive primates tour open the bloody spoils on nearby rooftops serenaded by wretched maternal grief. Support Street Hawkers and begs of Carthage had informed editor about how much of the area around the vast main that he dumped was fertile but left fallow and then overgrown due to a perilous infestation of beasts, unsettled spectators and blood seeking wraiths both of the latter born of the outrage souls of citizens brutally murdered in the city. He was an avid listener described how wants throats were cut skull shattered or body stabs victims were carted to the dump to be unceremoniously secreted among rotting litter. With a whisper in their ear garbage collectors and other Katzman concealed broken bodies under refuse would pause and stone. They made good coin from the sideline in disposals, the product of domestic intrigues, jealousies, and matters of honor that accompanied the maintenance of peace and respectable homes. Troublesome wives, loose tongue, love cheating husbands, rich parents, and Bawdy prostitutes were carted cold and stiff through the city..

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"emissary" Discussed on D. J. Swales Gothic Horror Tales

D. J. Swales Gothic Horror Tales

03:19 min | 4 months ago

"emissary" Discussed on D. J. Swales Gothic Horror Tales

"Come lend me your ear. As I speak to you of the macab, the cursed, the maligned, the malignant, the possessed and the downright demonic. Bolt Old Doors Lock all windows. I alone. Are you sure. I suggest you check under the bed Calveley. Twice. Did you check deepen the wardrobe. Behind the clothes. Are you in bed yet? Did you turn off the lights. They will come soon, they will follow my voice. But it will also keep them at Bay Bay. Most of them. For some of you, there is no hope. You know who you are. Prepared to be whisked away to lands ancient and modern, familiar and faraway. Prepare to question where fiction ends and fact begins. My name is, DJ. Swells I'm the author of Barath Nak. Book one in my fits Marbury witches series. This is my horror and gothic horror podcast. In Two thousand twelve I gave up my job home and put everything I own in storage to embark on eight pneumatic years of travel risking everything to become a writer. My only constant companion was a large body size suitcase. During my years on the road I was drawn to places with dog, tragic histories. I listened to voices in the wind. Ran My hands over the old stones steeping myself learning ruins, haunted forests, and abandoned holy places. All echoing with the press of the forgotten faithful. Specter's pursued me. Perhaps it was only a matter of time before the souls and entities trapped there in so many places began to influence my writing. Episode Twelve of Barack Tonight. A new darkness, the world's edge. Guan of the mob, which is series. Emissary of darkness. Pushing aside the edge of the heavy hemp curtain, the sailor spied upon the interior room beyond. The Express request of the priestess it had been converted into a birth. Instead of its usual purpose of stern storage. Several lodge candles burn precariously among assaulted diaphanous hanging fabrics of ink Black Royal Purple, and the richest reds having just negotiated his way through sunless spaces in the ship's Beli. He blinked into the dim light.

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Protests and riots continue across the country

Derek Hunter

12:28 min | 6 months ago

Protests and riots continue across the country

"Hunter show we're talking about what everybody's talking about the riots what to do to stop him no dialogue there's no discussion until the riots and many way shape or form and this is how insidious the antifa mutants are they knew it thank you the nation was United in disgust at the video of the killing of George Floyd things could have been done it really could have been done but and even doesn't want things done they want to destroy the N. T. FOR that has been built up and defended by the left wing media and ignored or cheered on by Democrats they wanted to destroy and they did it they did you can say they agitated but they didn't make anybody smash a window they smashed windows other people piled thrown stole stuff from the apple store so all the good will that was there and all the momentum to actually do something it was destroyed was just and that's what they want they don't want people getting along the left doesn't want people getting along well after what he doing we talking about why you quit Democrats well Keith Ellison member Keith Ellison who is a member of Congress from Minnesota he was the number two guy at the democratic national committee's Democratic National Committee vice chair he ran for chairman he lost to Tom Perez he was vice chair he is now Attorney General of the state of Minnesota he is a proud supporter of antifa he's also a proud supporter of Louis Farrakhan what what do you think you're gonna get when you elect that let's go to Alex in Baltimore Alex thanks for holding welcome Hey I didn't really talk about anti fur over real quick you go back and look at all the people that interacted over the years especially the inauguration antifa whiskey off in DC people if people are released they're they're let off of charges so a lot of yeah so there's a lot of a lot of support all the charges and all the arrests on inauguration day and all the stores smashed in the cars burned all the charges were dropped eventually into right away because there would have been angered by like what the hell you mean you're not going to charge these people they charge him and then when they thought people would be enough time had passed and people weren't looking they grab the churches don't always what I what I wanna make two points first of all this is gonna sound we're taking tacky but this isn't really a protest you know protest isn't in the constitution you look at what it says it says you have it you can reach out to Mando government a redress of grievances what is that mean it means you can also send me details okay okay but you know if you're not going to the legislators with legislation stating what you want and it's not really a protest going on young at cops I hate you it's not gonna change anything and are stupid people in this country that really think something's going to come from that you need if if there's something to be changed it got to be done to the law otherwise it's not a standard that we can uphold right so and the other thing I want to talk about you got guys like Tony and there was an African American gentleman I didn't catch is intro but our service members service members not Fred and you feed the attitude there the servicemembers said you mentioned and just what you mentioned in the intro here you mentioned that Antipolis breaking the windows and the guy said you were you brought up the looting and he said well it's white people breaking the windows what are black people supposed to do and then you mentioned black on black crime he said well that's why people give and god you know there's no there's the added to that black people don't have any agency that they can't possibly make decisions for themselves and therefore they can't be held accountable you know uncomfortable conversations Cody wants to have uncomfortable conversations I'm looking at FBI crime statistics right now from the last twenty years okay and I'm not talking about per capita total killings it over to one every year black people killing white people over white people killing black people and then when you take into account that they're only thirteen percent of the population and we've all we've been over sixty percent the last twenty years you realize that the rate is eight to one you know we have that conversation or is that racist the ADL says if you've mentioned that if you mention that constituted different across different races you're racing so we're we're not allowing ourselves to have a real conversation that need to be set when these rights happen the next day you shouldn't be able to protest because like I said they're not really asking for anything specific I we know black lives matter we know if George Ford name okay but what change is gonna come from that one of the laws we can pass and and what can we do and as far as eighty four trump's been such a disappointment I really think that that declaration of that being a terrorist organization will be refunded before the election if not it within the week well he has to make it first he hasn't he the president any disappointment in this too but the the responsibility for situations like this doesn't really rest with the president of the United States he he is you know he's the guy the local authorities and then the state authorities and then if they ask for federal help then the federal government immediately short of declaring martial law the president can can't do a lot but he should be saying things a rather long just tweeting things there's rumors that there's going to be at an address today but we'll see the the executive order on censorship real quick with my last point he should have been all that many of the social media companies and get away with being a publisher and a platform and executive order he did sort of almost motivates them to be a publisher which is going to lead to more censorship of the occasion hold and then as a platform that's what we want that that way no American can be denied access and it doesn't if you take the responsibility off of the social media companies then they have no excuse to censor people he did the opposite as well what will happen what could happen and it's got to be changed by law not by statute completely to be fully effective but what would happen is a couple of lawsuits lost would cause them to have to make an uncomfortable choice and that uncomfortable choice would likely lead to them going back to being a platform and and that's that's this step bid there was there's no way the president can act and get it all the way around the bases on his own it takes legislation legislation is being drafted but the house Democrats are never going these are their donors these are the people that they support they're never going to allow it to happen but next time Republicans are in charge maybe something will happen but it's also possible that much squishy Republicans won't do anything about it anyway Eddie in Atlanta thanks for calling in any here are your core let United healthcare plan it could have been stopped on Friday after protesters I've with there and sports physical stuff goes out over the falls in the broadcast in long enough for me to hear one line from the woman is free but far fairer for Daniel Farke is you should white people have the effective gains so basically that that kind of day you'll going on down there when the framers are with their permit was over with our mayor put police off a bicycle as the first or in line at the CNN building police officer were thrown to the ground by I white woman in a white man and he got up off the ground and the police did nothing I come alive after they wanna burn the city down you watch and it went from that to three in the emissary spray paint everything but not windows and then from there they started well Hey if they don't let us have free reign here so they started busting all the cars that meet certain party everything they are mayor get on TV at ten o'clock and said y'all just need to go home well you know she's not quite helpful future bottoms of these people were too busy having fun born in the town down but they're not they're stealing TV's they're not watching TV either at his house I think they're going to zero in on TV yeah and basically the keeper of please get rid of the master barbers down there the state troopers were down there and nobody did nothing they just let him into it and it's just like a kid if you say your this is very important the police on the grounds that you're violating the law get out of the street okay and then the police to come down there to vote thanks same street as always they won't get a credit down here in the whole thing started because people are blocking traffic and you know ratcheting it up you know they like every fifteen to trample people out of cars and stuff you have to stop stuff like this when it starts right as it starts or you're not gonna be able to stop it that's why they are mayor of DC the mayor of DC setting an eleven PM curfew okay that's really late and stupid but it didn't matter because until at least two thirty in the morning they were marching around smashing and looting they still were in Georgetown they were smashing and looting and beating up store owners who are trying to protect their property so if you have an eleven PM curfew and it doesn't mean anything then what's the point of the curfew it's failed leadership R. block is is saying that the the the everything is been messed up by the police the police are the ones that have sparked the violence which is not not true they've please send anything yeah the wealth the Huffington post had a thing I try to find it but it was their headline was police turned violent or something like that police turned violent against protesters like the right now I'm listening to you it's because they've turned out to be as they enter the comedy store but there's no news on there anymore during the day they are I was so embarrassed by that the networks ABC CBS the local affiliates here thank you well we don't do this in Atlanta this is not it Lana and they were just very code everything is so pathetic in the M. at one point one I got himself I believe in buying the place this is all well maybe I didn't say that right you know yeah the slip but yeah the the headline in the Huffington post yesterday was copper age colon police violence nationwide and there's pictures of riders okay okay yeah Rosenstein's report if you know any fourth of ten thirty and it's not a qualified so maybe they'll get serious after fever come to town tomorrow to go to work what's it feel like tomorrow you start putting that very well in there and they still didn't do anything they start the place started closed down but nothing happened it's very simple you have a friend with north south east and west for most of March and then you close in just like you did when you got it got scrapped the rob a bank is in the works and then you and then you just arrested and taken to jail get him off the street yep particular you know what to do any needs the people in leadership down I appreciate the phone call stay safe in Atlanta and keep listening to my radio sucks compared to this anyway let's go to Tim and hands into him hello yes it was terrible what happened at man but the looting this takes away from the whole calls on it and Nancy said it's opportunism masking as outrage it really is they have left wing agitators know exactly what to do they do this for a living they did they did they practice constantly up in Portland for the entirety of the trump administration every weekend in Portland there days over every week they have a day of rage where they they harass people they beat on cars as they drive past they get really angry they destroy things every once in awhile and the mayor of there lets it go and it doesn't make the national news because it's Democrats doing the Democrats are gonna are gonna criticize their base they've got the vote of the people in the street white black doesn't matter they got their vote they're not going to criticize and they don't have to criticize and there is no amount of destruction that can cause them to go Hey wait a second we probably shouldn't be doing this it's it's O. 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Call Records Connect Giuliani to Nunes During Ukraine Efforts

Wisconsin's Morning News with Gene Mueller

01:07 min | 1 year ago

Call Records Connect Giuliani to Nunes During Ukraine Efforts

"News as the president needs for a second day in London with other leaders of NATO the house Judiciary Committee today holding its first impeachment hearing a day after Democrats on the house intelligence committee released their report accusing president trump of orchestrating a pressure campaign to get Ukraine to investigate gel and hunter Biden ABC news chief legal analyst Dan Abrams says the record of Rudy Giuliani's phone calls with the White House detail in that report could be a big problem for Giuliani and president trump if you read the minority report meaning the Republicans report it would indicate that Rudy Giuliani was basically advising the president sort of broadly on corruption in Ukraine he was sort of serving as his emissary but in a legal capacity an advisory capacity this would suggest that Rudy Giuliani was leading foreign policy in the area and that's the key difference here Wisconsin Republican congressman Jim Sensenbrenner still backing the president after the release of that report by the house intelligence committee he tells CNN Democrats are setting their own president when it comes to separation of power created in the constitution second you

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Who Is John Eisenberg? Trump Lawyer Moved Ukraine Transcript to Classified Server After Vindman Complained

Here & Now

07:02 min | 1 year ago

Who Is John Eisenberg? Trump Lawyer Moved Ukraine Transcript to Classified Server After Vindman Complained

"And today house democrats have released transcripts of the testimony given by former US s. ambassador to ukraine maria vich and former state department official michael mckinley we will be following that but meanwhile a top lawyer for the national security council counsel john eisenberg is a no show today for a scheduled deposition on capitol hill to find a subpoena an escalating the white house's legal battle with congressional democrats let's eisenberg is a key witness for the impeachment inquiry he reportedly was instrumental and locking down the transcript of president trump's july twenty fifth phone call with ukrainian union president by moving it to top secret server so let's learn more about who eisenberg is and his role in this whole saga tom hamburger is is an investigative political reporter for the washington post and tom last week alexander van men the top ukraine advisor at the white house testified that he listened in on that call where president trump asked the president of ukraine to investigate the biden's and vinson said he raised concerns to the white house's top national security lawyer earlier john eisenberg what was eisenberg's response according to your reporting so what we learned about colonel benjamin's testimony to the a house impeachment investigators is is this he was alarmed as he listened to president trump's call with ukraine's president on july twenty five so unnerved that he went immediately after listening to the call to see john eisenberg the white house legal adviser on national security parity to tell him that what the president did was wrong that it seemed to be violating US policy and seemed to be seeking a personal sola political favors from foreign leader he testified that he went to eisenberg's office because he was alarmed by what he had heard on the call and and the only response that he offered during the meeting right after the call was that the roughed transcript of the call the summary of the call should be placed in an unusual usual spot that is the highly classified top secret vault i'm usually reserved for documents that would reveal sources and methods for US intelligence awesome military operations not for presidential call transcripts in fact we're told it's unheard of or virtually unheard of for for such a call to be placed on a classified server like that so that was one step another was a couple of days after the conversation eisenberg approached vitamin again and said i'd like you not to talk to anybody about what we discussed and what you observed in the call again a by itself perhaps there's an innocuous explanation for this but in combination with a couple of other factors that we're talking about here it seemed seemed to some is though it was part of a pattern or could have been part of a pattern or an effort to conceal or berry the substance of the president's conversation with his counterpart in ukraine you also write that by the time vin men came to eisenberg and late july eisenberg was already familiar with concerns among white house awesome officials about the administration's attempts to pressure ukraine for political purposes what did he know and why is this important to note eisenberg was aware of concerns from the national security staff because a couple of weeks earlier on july ten presidents alinsky had sent a delegation of ukrainian indian officials to the white house to try to shore up relations with the US they couldn't figure out why it seemed there was a delay in getting face as to face meeting set up between the newly elected president and president trump and there was some concerns about whether legally mandated a military aid would be flowing to the ukraine and so they came to the white house these two emissaries end-july ten and had a meeting with the national security council staff but also with three other they're individuals one is a special envoy appointed by president trump mr samland another was energy secretary rick perry and the third was a special on on void to ukraine volcker and in the course of meeting with this group those three led by sandra fund seemed to be pushing a request for assistance in getting information that might be helpful to the president politically the conversation was a bit subtle but it so alarmed armed john bolton in this meeting that they had on july ten that he quickly called it to a close and then he later asked one of his associates the national security advisor sir for ukraine to report what was observed to legal office and so the the place that those bolton advisers went was once again john eisenberg so on july ten there was the first warning of an executive branch effort this time not involving the president personally but involving some of his top appointees to seemingly introduce a question of seeking political favors from the new ukrainian administration as a condition for getting a meeting meeting with president or getting needed aid has eisenberg or his lawyer responded to any of this eisenberg has so so far declined to comment and the white house has declined to comment the response that we have is really the response that is visible today on capitol hill which is where in the impeachment investigators hoped john eisenberg would be sitting to answer questions there will be an empty chair eisenberg is another of several figures at the top level of advisors to the president who are declining to respond to subpoenas and request testify in this impeachment inquiry and so he is one of these figures who is now part of this constitutional drama that we're witnessing between the demands of the legislative branch and the claims of special privilege by the white house in the office of the president and those other folks michael ellis also of the national security council as well as robert blair and brian mccormick of the white house office of management and budget they're all skipping this meeting as you said these meetings what will the the democrats do next now that these folks have decided not to testify so there are others who are facing request to testify who are even more senior one is john bolton the research resigned recently as national security adviser he remember is the guy who is at the top of this national the security establishment and in a sense the buck stops with him he would be a critically important witness and his testimony is considered vital so much to a follow that's tom hamburger investigative political reporter for the washington post tom thank you so much good to be with you

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Deadline arrives for impeachment document handoff, Perry and Mulvaney have yet to comply

Science Friday

00:55 sec | 1 year ago

Deadline arrives for impeachment document handoff, Perry and Mulvaney have yet to comply

"Today's the deadline for to trump administration officials to turn over documents to house investigators as part of the ongoing impeachment inquiry but as NPR scammer keep reports neither one is expected to comply acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and energy secretary Rick Perry both face deadlines to turn over documents related to Ukraine but the White House and other administration officials have refused other such request arguing the impeachment enquiring isn't legitimate Mulvaney was involved in blocking aid to Ukraine and publicly admitted the funding was held up in part because president trump wanted the country to investigate a conspiracy theory about the hacking of Democratic Party servers Mulvaney later tried to walk back that'd mission a top trump emissary to Ukraine pushing the country's leaders on corruption and working directly with trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani announced he plans to resign by the end of the year

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State Department blocks ambassador from testifying in Trump impeachment inquiry

KNX Evening News

04:01 min | 1 year ago

State Department blocks ambassador from testifying in Trump impeachment inquiry

"President trump resorting to some familiar tactics as the impeachment inquiry against him he'd stuff in the house Dodge delay deny the president today blocks testimony to the house intelligence committee of his ambassador to the U. you who's tied to the Ukraine scandal in the report effort to pressure the Ukrainians to investigate Joe Biden so can this continue without any consequences and that is exactly where we will begin today David jolly is an attorney and until twenty sixteen served as a Republican congressman from Florida is thirteenth congressional district can the White House keep stonewalling Congress without any consequences all right they can unless Congress decides to not let them and what I mean by that is they could begin to find witnesses who are not attend are not showing up but more importantly in the environment in which we are and where the house is engaged in an impeachment inquiry they can proceed towards an impeachment vote and begin to play offense with the White House and what I mean by that is right now the White House and are that Congress and all of its investigations have been asking for cooperation from White House and administration witnesses and if they don't cooperate they go to court they litigated it could be years before they compel testimony in this environment whatever I purchased my democratic colleagues to do is announce that the impeachment inquiry will last for eight weeks ten weeks whatever you think it will take and a vote will it will occur one day following if White House administration officials want to cooperate want to defend their actions they're welcome to testify but there's enough information in the public domain and based on statements from the president that you don't need to litigate no shows for testimonies like we saw today you can roll the no shows though and and stonewalling into an active obstruction cancer you sure can it so the way impeachment works at the end of all the hearings the house if it determines said will will write out several articles of impeachment one of them apparently will be abuse of power based on the phone call the president had with the Ukrainian president another will be obstruction of Congress based on what we saw today no shows and other refusals to turn over documents and then the house will face a question to you all in the third article from the molar report for instance the obstruction charges outlined and don against testimony to Robert Muller as we mentioned you were a Republican congressman can you explain to folks is there any thing that would convince fishing the Senate Republicans to say of the president we had enough you know that I don't have an answer three years into this one more Republicans have not stood up vertically in the face of the call with the Ukrainian president the president himself now has confessed to we heard comments from that Romney I think we may see Mitt Romney actually go to can convict if the Senate receives a queen article on abuse of power the politicians either act on on political convenience networks they see something that is politically advantageous for their actions what they act on convictions in the last three years frankly there's been just sufficient enough political convenience for Republicans to stick with trump right trump has historic approval numbers within the Republican Party it has been insulated Republicans that just act on political convenience in this moment there are no good politics for Republicans there's no easy answer which is why the likes of Kevin McCarthy is suggested while trump was just joking but where the politics fail them there is also an absence of conviction which is why you see Republican emissaries on the hill really flailing right now unable to defend the president's actions David joing had a journey had until twenty sixteen served as a Republican congressman from Florida's

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Trump escalates impeachment fight, barring envoy's testimony

Can He Do That?

09:01 min | 1 year ago

Trump escalates impeachment fight, barring envoy's testimony

"We're into week three of the house. Impeachment inquiry into president trump here are some developments to keep you updated a new Washington Post sharp a poll published Tuesday shows public opinion has shifted quickly against trump a majority of Americans say they endorse the decision by House Democrats to begin impeachment Monday that House Democrats are considering as to allow the original whistle blower the person who I flagged the trump's Alinsky call a formal complaint to testify while still remaining anonymous the steps under consideration include having a whistle blower testify from a remote location and obscuring the individuals appearance and voice the Democrats are hoping to prevent trump allies in Congress from exposing the whistle blowers identity. Meanwhile senator Lindsey Graham said he would invite trump's all attorney Rudy Giuliani to testify in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee about quote corruption and other improprieties involving Ukraine Senate Democrats have said they would welcome testimony from Giuliani yet one moment from the hill so far this week stood out as of Monday night the US author the European Union Gordon Farmland was scheduled to appear in a closed door hearing Tuesday that changed Tuesday morning when the trump administration told SOM- lynn that he would not be able to testify since the inquiry began Salman has emerged as a central player in the trump administration's efforts to sure Ukraine to launch investigations of the President's political rivals and Samland had been willing to testify before he was blocked that's sudden change of plans raised questions about the escalating tug of war between Congress and the trump administration tug of war that escalated even further Tuesday when in a letter to house leaders the White House counsel said it will not cooperate with the house impeachment inquiry so how much power does the executive branch have to stop up witnesses from testifying what means of recourse does Congress have to fight back what are witnesses obligations and what does it mean for the impeachment inquiry going forward if you hearings actually happen this is can he do that. A podcast explores the powers and limitations of the American press let's see I'm Alison Michaels for answers I turned to intelligence and national security reporter Shane Harris chains been covering developments in the impeachment inquiry asked him to start with a rundown on who ambassador Gordon Samland is and how he ended up in tangled in the US relationship with Ukraine Gordon Sunland is the US ambassador to the European Union so he is our primary emissary to that group he does not have a background in foreign policy he has a background in I'm developing luxury hotels in the Pacific northwest and was kind of a mega donor for president trump he donated through a series of shell companies about a million dollars to trump's inaugural fund so kind of big dollar heavy hitter who seems to have developed a fairly close relationship to the president but is relatively unknown US foreign policy circles okay and you say Ambassador to the EU but Ukraine is not in the European Union so what is it connection to this impeachment inquiry into president trump will he appears to have inserted himself into US Ukraine policy and you correctly said the Ukraine is not in the portfolio of the European Union he comes into the picture as a kind of a key person and what is emerging as this kind of organized effort by him and by at least one diplomat to pressure the government of Ukraine to open investigations into the political rivals of the president and apparently based on communications that have been coming out doing so as a condition for receiving military aid and support from the trump administration's let me gets on Linden is but nevertheless it appears ample evidence to suggest it happen okay so why did the Democrats ceased online is an important witness giving us important because he can basically tell them whether there was a quid pro quo between the administration and Ukraine if you open up investigations for president trump into the Biden's and into this kind of conspiracy theory that Ukraine was somehow meddling in the two thousand sixteen elections you get military aid you get a meeting with President trump which is something that the Ukrainian presence Lynn ski desperately wanted so he and his Communications Democrats think can have an help answer that basic question was there a quid pro quo at play with the trump administration's deals with Ukraine can you tell me what we know at this point about his communications what we know right now we know from the text messages that were over by a man named Kurt Volker Incur Volker is the US envoy to Ukraine who sort of they're trying to deal with issues related to Ukraine Russia which of course is the primary adversary Voelker who is no longer in his post. Turn those text messages over to the committee's running the impeachment inquiry in the house those text messages show the back and fourth where these diplomats as well as a third person who is sort of primary diplomat and Kiev are talking about what appears to be this quid pro quo how regan had the Ukrainians to come out with a public message that shows are going to start these investigations and when they do that we can set up a meeting with the president that's kind of the essence like the the the illustration of quid pro contained in those texts and Sean is one of the people who is primarily figuring in those messages and importantly comes in at one point where he seems to be trying to get people to stop texting about this kind of seems to be aware that the information is being put in these messages is going to become part of the permanent record I will do things like tell people to call him rather than putting it in a text message and it's ours we know there may be more communications right we think there are actually because the Democrat the House of referred to texts and emails that Sauna and had on a personal device and they have said that they're going to issue a subpoena to get those because he turned them over to the State Department and and not to the congressional committees okay so he was scheduled to testify on Tuesday in front of Several House Committee and ultimately he didn't because the State Department which he works for stopped him at this point do we know why they stopped him what reasoning they gave they've given a lot of reasons and that's not surprising in the sense that this administration does have a pattern of signed to stop people who've worked executive branch from coming up to Congress and giving them information that could be detrimental to the president the real reason essentially come down to what Mike Pompeo has articulated in a letter that he sent to the Democratic Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee he said that you've only sent a letter this isn't really a subpoena you said you've given us an inadequate amount of time to prepare these witnesses there's been some question about whether they can have State Department Council participating in them these Haitians as he calls them that were sent to Sunland and others appear to be personal would require them to produce a huge documents you're not giving enough time so pompeo the throwing the kitchen sink at it it's not clear on Tuesday what the rationale was for the administration blocking him with Democrats said is that up until Monday night we're in discussions with lawyers at the State Department and it seemed like this testimony was gonna be a go about twelve thirty am the Democrats say the State Department called uh-huh lawyers leaving a voicemail saying do not testify silence then it's important to point out issued a statement saying I am more than ready to testify I flew in from Brussels for the occasion and what he seems to be doing I think if you read between the lines a bit could be perceived as sort of saying to Pompeo in the White House like don't put this on me I am ready to testify if you're going to block me from testifying that's on you I wanted to be known that I'm here willing to talk what are the Democrats that in response to those reasons from the the State Department and from the executive branch as to why didn't testify they have called it an obstruction they're saying this is this is the executive branch the White House the State Department obstructing an impeachment inquiry and have suggested that that could become another article of impeachment itself so sort of throwing another log on the impeachment fire what they've said is they are now going to subpoena Sunland for for his testimony for his records and I think that they are while they have described essentially as an effort by the president as they see it to hide the facts about what he was doing and how he was pressuring Ukraine and how he was using this diplomat and others to do that but to be clear who decides what amounts to obstructing congressional investing. online from testifying

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President Donald Trump gets heat for urging Ukraine probe

Anderson Cooper 360

11:17 min | 1 year ago

President Donald Trump gets heat for urging Ukraine probe

"Thanks for joining us has learned tonight that the President United States pressed a foreign head of state to work with his personal criminal defense attorney to investigate the son of a political opponent when you strip away all the complexities surrounding and including where it fits in the whistle blower fair there's one simple central point to this story which I broke in the Wall Street Journal Journal late today according to the Journal in July twenty fifth phone call president trump in his official capacity. Ask the president of Ukraine to do something in his official official capacity that would benefit not this country but president trump himself both politically and personally citing sources familiar with the matter the journal reports that he pushed the Ukrainian President about eight times on that one phone call to work with Rudy Giuliani on a probe of Joe Biden son Hunter who worked for a time with the Ukrainian Gas Company now according to the Journal and you'll hear shortly from one of the reporters who broke that story for the Journal. This did not involve an explicit offer of something in return quoting from the story. Mr Trump didn't mention a provision of US aid to Ukraine on the call said this person who didn't believe Mr trump offered the Ukrainian president any quid pro quo for his cooperation on any investigation similar reporting as well from the Washington Post on that and the hard sell Hunter Biden but unlike the journal opposed goes one step beyond saying that the call is at the center of the whistle blower complaints. The White House is trying to squelch the president meantime had this to say. It's a partisan whistle. Blow shouldn't even have information. I've had conversations with many leaders that always is appropriate and thanks God can tell you that always appropriate at the highest level was appropriate and anything I do. I fight for this country. I fight so strongly only for this country. It's just another political hack job. That's all it is. It's called it a beautiful conversation with the Ukrainian president his words words by the way the President says the whistler there is partisan later. He admitted he doesn't know who the whistle blower is. As we mentioned the Wall Street Journal source said the president did not offer any kind kind of quid pro quo for the Ukrainian president cooperation but we should also point out that at the time of that call Ukraine was anticipating receiving a quarter billion dollars in in military aid from the United States at the time of the call the aide had been appropriated by Congress but not yet approved by the president and in fact it was later blocked by the the president pending a review so I just WanNa zero in for a moment on the timeline as we know it. The call is on July twenty fifth and sometime in the early weeks of August is Rudy Giuliani met with and spoke by phone with emissaries of the Ukrainian president on August twelfth. The whistle blower complaint was filed at the end of August president trump trump ordered a review effectively blocking that military aid to Ukraine that Congress has already approved September first vice president pence meets with Ukrainian mean President Zilenski eight days later three House committees begin investigating all this and by September twelve that hold on the aid that the president put was was lifted now we don't know exactly who said what to whom but it's clear that even as private citizens. Giuliani who was pressing Ukrainians the president in his official capacity city was blocking money they badly needed and now we know these reports bear out the president was directly and repeatedly leaning on the Ukrainian president to essentially make trouble for his political opponent Joe Biden. We also know the president has made it clear that when it comes to foreign dirt on political rivals that door is always open your campaign this time Brad Radish foreigners if Russia China. If someone else offers you information opponent should be accepted it should be called the FBI. I think maybe you do both. I think you might WanNA listen and I don't. There's nothing wrong with listening. If somebody called from a country Norway we have information on your I think good one here. You want that kind of interference in elections. It's not an interference. They have information. I think I take it so having already said that that he would take it the question now now and it's kind of sickening to even ask would he also try to demanded or even extorted more now in the new reporting from the Wall Street Journal Rebecca Beca Ball House who shares a byline on it Rebecca. What are you learning about. President trump's call with the president of Ukraine. So what we understand is that in in this July twenty fifth call that he had with the president of Ukraine he repeatedly pressured him to investigate Joe Biden and his son in mentioned tinned on at least our around eight occasions that he should talk to trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani who's been mounting a very public campaign pain to have Ukraine look into what he believes is inappropriate by behavior by Joe Biden and his son but this is the first inclination that we have the first forest is revelation that we have that the president personally raised this in a conversation with his Ukrainian counterpart based on your reporting. There was no explicit a quid pro quo on that call if you go after the Biden's or their company one hundred Biden is affiliated with you'll get the military aid that we're holding up there on the call. There was an equip roku correct. That's right and that is a major piece of this because the Washington Post reported earlier this week I in a really great story that the whole whistleblower complaint that we've been talking about centers on a promise that the president made to a foreign leader and his Lee at least as far as this call with the Ukrainian cranium president goes were not aware of any specific promises that he made on that call we we don't believe that he mentioned the foreign aid that his administration in August was reviewing whether to send to Ukraine and we don't believe he necessarily dangled any other quid pro quos to the Ukrainian president and also what we know is that that Rudy Giuliani has admitted that he met with top Ukrainian officials back in June and August about the prospect of an investigation right and and and Giuliani was pretty public about the fact that in May he was planning a trip to Ukraine to meet with the president with Dolinsky who I guess who was at the time the president elect elect and that the president that president trump was aware of his plan to go to Ukraine which ultimately ended up canceling but as you say he he met in June in Paris with an official from Ukraine Prosecutor General's office and he met in in Madrid Aug with a top aide twos Alinsky and we believe believe he raised this is an investigation on both occasions and it was fascinating is when you see Rudy Giuliani on television you really never know what he's going to say and it's not even clear the he's entirely clear what he has just said and so one can only imagine in these meetings with Ukrainian officials in which there may be no transcripts at all all what he has actually said or what sort of arrangements have been made. It's such a fascinating story. Rebecca appreciate your reporting. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me well as we mentioned. This is all now being investigated in the House including by the Oversight Committee Democratic Congressman Gerry Connolly's a member. I spoke to him just before airtime culturing connolly. The President says it doesn't matter what he said to the president of Ukraine or whether he he talked about Biden eight times or not. Does it matter to you a traumatic to every American Addison it is not okay for the president of the United States to talk to a brand new newly-elected foreign leader who has no experience I might add in the political realm or in foreign policy and extort art from him a pledge to dig up dirt on a perspective political opponent that is not normal that is not ethical. It is probably probably not legal. None of us should accept that as the new norm in American politics use the word extort the journal is also appointing the president did not offer anything in exchange change on that call there are obviously a large commitments by the US that were being held up military aid and and the like which has now been released so after that call at the aid is the military assistance gets released released. Are you saying they're you think that would be a quid pro. Quo even if it's unspoken well well I use the word extortion deliberately Anderson because you accurately recall inexplicably president trump decided to suspend almost a quarter of a billion dollars of foreign military aid to Ukraine this at a time when combat continues in the eastern eastern part of the country when Russian troops occupy parts of the eastern part of the country and illegally occupy illegally annexed Crimea which is part of Ukraine watched the American people have confidence in Congress is ability right now to get answers from this White House whether it's in testimony or you know it seems like a just just stopping not cooperating is the White House strategy probably through the election and beyond well. I am one Edison who was called for the revival of inherent contempt. I think Congress has to enforce its own subpoenas and demands for documents by having a a a a menu of disciplines disciplinary action against those who refuse to cooperate to the legitimate oversight and accountability requirements of the Legislative branch of the United States government and that would certainly come into play here. This is another example of where trump has fired. I heard a confirmed director of an agency and put in place one of his own and acting director who certainly does not feel that he has the flexibility or maneuverability to respond to legitimate requests from Congress. He takes his marching orders from the guy who put him in the job and could take come out tomorrow morning. If this is true would this be collusion an effort to collude with a foreign power yes well. I would say it's at the the very least attempted collusion and remember many of us condemned Rudy Giuliani for saying he was going to do this very everything a number of months ago and at the time it was thought that he receives enough negative pressure from both sides of the Allen from the media that he backed off apparently he didn't not only did not back off the president himself got in the act and it's another sort of chapter in sorted presidency but realistically what what steps do you really have. I mean I know you said there should be a change in in inherent contempt but without that right now does this this just well. The the the only remedy had sent in front of us. Frankly is going to be impeachment. Connolly appreciate your time. Thank you

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Debt ceiling, trade and immigration; consequences for the American people.

The Daily 202's Big Idea

05:07 min | 1 year ago

Debt ceiling, trade and immigration; consequences for the American people.

"<music> but first the big idea jolted by a new report that shows the Treasury Department running out of cash much faster than previously forecasted the White House is pushing congressional leaders to strike spending deal and increase increase the debt limit and the next two or three weeks but the talks have bogged down amid acrimony between Democrats and the White House and now Washington's leaders run the risk of a fiscal pile up the could also imperil president trump's efforts to update NAFTA White House officials have said the debt ceiling must be raised by early September to ensure the government can pay its bills and spending on many federal programs expires at the end of September requiring a separate deal to prevent a government shutdown Treasury Secretary Steven in mnuchin consulted with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi this week and met yesterday with G._O._P.. Leaders Alongside Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney trying to forge some kind of solution Pelosi is made clear that any increase in the federal debt limit must come as part of a broader two year the budget deal in approach also favored by leading Senate Republicans but it's far from clear whether lawmakers in the administration will be able to reach such an agreement before Congress leaves town for its annual summer recess in August. That's ten legislative days from now and then they'll be gone for a month. Breath until after Labor Day mnuchin is serving as the White House as emissary with Democrats because Pelosi has brushed aside other senior White House officials she has dismissed Mulvaney saying he has quote no credibility on spending issues because when he was in the House he pushed to shut down the government repeatedly. The one bright spot had appeared to be Pelosi's respect for U._S.. Trade Representative Bob Lighthizer who spent more than a year carefully cultivating ties with top Democrats in his push to revamp Nafta but even that effort is now under extreme strain as labor unions and vocal liberals are demanding major changes that frankly might be politically infeasible. All these dynamics will test the weathering relationship between Pelosi and trump trump policies tried to hold back her caucus from launching a formal impeachment proceeding against the president but she faces mounting pressure is the twenty twenty presidential campaign picks up steam and trump's not making her job any easier making matters much worse for for the purposes of getting things done on capitol. Hill trump has ordered massive raids in deportations to begin this weekend. That's GonNa make it more untenable for a lot of Democrats especially on the left to vote for anything. This White House wants ice agents are preparing arrest thousands of immigrants during raids that are scheduled to begin on Sunday The New York Times reports this morning that these raids will also include what are called collateral deportations that means authorities planned to detain immigrants who just happened to be on the scene even though they are not targets of the raids ice agents are targeting at least two thousand immigrants who've been ordered deported some as a result of their failure to appear in court. The operation is expected to take place in at least ten major U._S. cities meanwhile the trump administration is increasingly. Really concerned about the prospects for a trade deal with China amid an unexpected reshuffling of the Chinese negotiating team and a lack of progress on core issues since the Group of Twenty Summit in Japan Chinese Commerce Minister Jean Sean John Who is regarded by many White House officials as a hardliner has assumed new prominence in the talks he took the lead in fact during a Tuesday conference call alongside Chinese Vice Premier Liu he who has headed the Chinese trade team for more than a year hopes for a deal have also been dented by China's failure to make large new purchases of U._S.. Farm products despite trump's insistence at the g twenty that Chinese President Xi Jinping had agreed to play such orders immediately and there hasn't been announced schedule for the next round of direct talks to begin a former China analyst at the C._I._A.. Dennis Wilder tells us that Zhang's emergence reflects a loss of confidence in lieu he and the desire of g to bring someone a little more politically savvy and again. He's the hardliner other intelligence sources say that the Chinese negotiators have been given instructions to get tougher with the U._S.. Beijing things that can drive a harder bargain organ with trump because they think he's increasingly anxious about his reelection prospects based on their intelligence collection in an effort to revive the stalled trade talks trump agreed at the g twenty to postpone the tariffs he had planned to put in place on three hundred billion dollars and imports from China and also to allow w-way a Chinese telecommunications company that U._S.. Officials call a national security threat to continue buying American computer chips trump told his trade team before that Tuesday conference call to secure new Chinese orders. 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As Google Advances Its Interests, It Serves As Huawei Emissary To U.S.

NPR's Business Story of the Day

04:31 min | 1 year ago

As Google Advances Its Interests, It Serves As Huawei Emissary To U.S.

"Turning to some news here in the US on while way, Google has been quietly, assuming the role of emissary for wow, way, after the Chinese telecom company was blacklisted by the Trump administration. Google is in effect negotiating with the Commerce Department on while ways behalf. That's according to a senior official at while way. NPR's arthy Shahani has that story. The fates of wow way and Google are intertwined. While way is a leader in creating next generation wireless networks on. It's the world's number two maker of smartphones. Google provides support for Android the popular operating system, the US government ban against wow, way, also blocks Google from giving security updates to millions of existing why phones and for misuing Android licenses in the future in an interview this week with why chairman Liangwa NPR asked him, how his company would resolve the problem of losing access to Google software whose job. The is at fairy responsible company. We have maintained Verret cooperation with each other. He speaking through a translator at a headquarters in Shenzhen won. The Ben, I went into effect, and Google announced it would cut ties. There was an outcry days later, the Trump administration said it would postpone parts of the ban until August. The outsized power of American tech. Giant's is well understood the world over while as Lee and is now leading on Google to influence, the department of commerce on his company's behalf them Google, we really look forward to productive results from the communication that who is currently having with the Commerce Department last month, citing national security concerns. The Trump administration added way to a list of banned entities American companies for mobile providers to chipmakers like Intel and Qualcomm will not be allowed to do business with, wow way that. That's because according to US officials the company's technology could be used for surveillance, if a resolution isn't reached Liang says while we will have to build its own software, which would be difficult because you gene. So we really help that van where possible remedies coming out of the communication between control and the Commerce Department, and we think that you can benefit to consumers, you have played a workout solution, Liang says he does not know the details of the talks in an E mail. A Google spokesperson says the company is engaging with the department of commerce to ensure Google is in full compliance with the new rules. The company declined to say, if it's talks with the government have included directly or indirectly advocating for the ability to support future Weiwei devices, NPR, interviewed several former senior officials at commerce, and the White House who are concerned that a private company governed by its own self interest is advocating at this juncture where. Or the foreign partner has been officially blacklisted for security concerns. Eric Hirschhorn says turning wall way into a bargaining chip in the US China trade war was a strategic mistake spent Amata time trying to make sure that national security and trade kept separate hersher, and served in the department of commerce during the Obama administration as undersecretary for industry and security. According to former commerce officials it standard for companies to reach out to the department about their ability to do business abroad. But the foreign partner is often at the table to able to talk and be questioned her Sean says that changes once the US government decides to take enforcement action as it did last month when it banned alway company financials should not be considered alongside national security decisions. He says, if Molly gets what it wants vis-a-vis Google's effort. He says that sends a very, very bad message to people who break. American rules, if I know that my government or my powerful business partner can basically fix ticket. If I get one I won't worry about speeding. The Commerce Department says it routinely response to inquiries from companies about regulatory requirements. This is not new to this administration, nor do these discussions influence law enforcement actions. Artly Shahani NPR news. And we need to note that Google is a financial sponsor of NPR.

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"emissary" Discussed on WTVN

WTVN

03:47 min | 2 years ago

"emissary" Discussed on WTVN

"Your your freemason, and we hear all kinds of stories about freemasons. Are you a good guy or you one of those evil ones? Well, I I'm sure there's good and evil people in in every every walk of life, and I would love to think of myself as being a good person in whatever organization I belong to. So I'm good freemason from my point of view. That's good. That's good. Now. One of your books is called angels demons gods in I wanna talk about demons and angels for a moment, especially as we make this turn towards thanksgiving and Christmas, which is always appropriate to do it with with these times when you wrote this book, tell me your theme of angels demons and gods of the new millennium millennium. Well, it's a series of seven magical essays that that deal with the concepts of of angels angels, and demons and other words, it's spiritual. Entities that that are are metaphors, but you know, very very real metaphors of. Aspects of consciousness in the demonic aspects of consciousness would be you would be imbalanced imperfect. Uncontrolled forces that we currently don't have under under intelligence to control and the angels being aspects of higher levels of of consciousness. So it's. It's like a cascading frequency of of of consciousness from from God head or this the supreme consciousness or whatever the consciousness of the big totality is that holds everything together. And all the way down to the broken fragmented aspects of that consciousness, which would manifest least metaphorically as as demons are or destructive destructive spirits. Let let's let's talk about angels that first portion of your book, title what what are angels to you? Or they the biblical version or are they something else? Well, the biblical angel just literally just means messenger. So some every once in a while in in bible narratives, they use the word angel and there. They're just really talking about uh person. That's delivering a message of some kind or an emissary from from an authority figure that they were called. They were called angels. But the Kabbalah itemizes. The or attempts to I the the mind of God. And if you can I guess well, th they make an attempt, of course, we can't wrap our meat brains around it, so so they really have to to do it and imagery and metaphors, and they dramatize things that are so abstract. They they have no concrete to..

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"emissary" Discussed on 20/20

20/20

03:22 min | 2 years ago

"emissary" Discussed on 20/20

"For andrea then suddenly in unexpected emissary from past pain this nurse the same nurse who thirty one years ago care for andrea as an abandoned infant kim beckmann remembers trying to fill the void left by the baby's vanished mom i remember holding you a lot evenings and and rocking you just wanting you to fill loved and that's all i remember that that that how cute you were wondering how desperate that mom must've been i hope you find your birth mom sadly flus hard to come by in the maternity ward with the exception of one andrea's mother left behind an admission form and on it next to andrea's baby footprints her mother's fingerprint was that significant for you well it was certainly clued it was the only clue we had and so we did wanna follow peeps pinned on this single fingerprint andrea and sisi in a list of the nearby police department for help she was false they say air meet you too so secret she got hers i think first prints go the name that was used was last name of beach okay are you comfortable that she simply just walked away on her own that there was no foul play or any of that type of activity that may have preferred now if there wasn't any foul play don't terry now i don't want to give you any false hope because this is a long shot and i'll get in touch with you since i hear something back i feel like this is a puzzle that trying to put together but all the pieces are face down on the table like andrea bent vite also abandoned at birth is determined to find his biological mom so right now we're heading to see moore's house come on hi it's really needs to meet us and i have some news things to show you that's not him cc's taken bins dna had entered into four national databases hoping for a match to his biological mother with possible hits on distant relatives the dna detectives got our work cut out for than difficult then she catches a break a direct hit on someone they weren't even looking for i logged into your match list a couple of days ago and i saw this are b is your father then does an actual doubletake i have the same reaction the planets align perfectly it's a man named richard blanchfield who's a pretty incredible guy he's a vietnam vet and he's not just any vietnam vet he's a highly decorated vietnam vet what are the odds been a veteran of two tours in iraq learning his biological father is a war hero his arm was nearly blown off at the shoulder his forty seven years old kind of your is he still alive still alive here's the goodness your dad lives twenty minutes from here he just happened to live down the freeway did you believe this a for by lightning which told me to find.

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"emissary" Discussed on MMA Junkie Radio

MMA Junkie Radio

02:01 min | 2 years ago

"emissary" Discussed on MMA Junkie Radio

"Whoa period of civil war again rebel emissary playtex etta and his crew travel farthest reaches of the galaxy to explore astounding new worlds and meet weird bug creatures and stuff this is mission tutors six mission desserts and improvised science fiction podcast six ceiling ticks everyone hey everybody the show's about to begin but before we get started here are some words from our newest sponsors maybe you've noticed that you have a little less hair that you used to have i know i have but you're not sure there's a real solution the thing is there are two clinically proven medications that let you keep your hair and now they're inexpensive and easy to get for five minutes now and just one dollar a day you'll never have to worry about hair loss again getting started with keeps us so easy sign up takes less than five minutes just answer a few questions and snap some photos a licensed doc remotely reviews your information and recommends the right treatment for you all without ever leaving your couch keeps offers generic versions of the only two fda approved hair loss products out there some of you have probably tried them before but you've never gotten them for this easy price keeps his only ten to thirty five dollars a month plus now you can get the first month for free one hell of a deal forgetting to keep your hair there's no reason to put this off any longer stop hair loss today the easy way with keeps to receive your first month of treatment for free go to keeps dot com slash junkie that's k e p s dot com slash junkie that's a free month of treatment at keeps dot com slash junkie keeps her today here tomorrow if you ever shower or brush your teeth or trying to make your hair look presentable i've got news for you dollar shave club has a lot of stuff to help you out you guys dollarshaveclub delivers everything you need to look feel and smell.

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"emissary" Discussed on MMA Junkie Radio

MMA Junkie Radio

02:01 min | 2 years ago

"emissary" Discussed on MMA Junkie Radio

"Whoa period of civil war again rebel emissary playtex etta and his crew travel farthest reaches of the galaxy to explore astounding new worlds and meet weird bug creatures and stuff this is mission tutors six mission desserts and improvised science fiction podcast six ceiling ticks everyone hey everybody the show's about to begin but before we get started here are some words from our newest sponsors maybe you've noticed that you have a little less hair that you used to have i know i have but you're not sure there's a real solution the thing is there are two clinically proven medications that let you keep your hair and now they're inexpensive and easy to get for five minutes now and just one dollar a day you'll never have to worry about hair loss again getting started with keeps us so easy sign up takes less than five minutes just answer a few questions and snap some photos a licensed doc remotely reviews your information and recommends the right treatment for you all without ever leaving your couch keeps offers generic versions of the only two fda approved hair loss products out there some of you have probably tried them before but you've never gotten them for this easy price keeps his only ten to thirty five dollars a month plus now you can get the first month for free one hell of a deal forgetting to keep your hair there's no reason to put this off any longer stop hair loss today the easy way with keeps to receive your first month of treatment for free go to keeps dot com slash junkie that's k e p s dot com slash junkie that's a free month of treatment at keeps dot com slash junkie keeps her today here tomorrow if you ever shower or brush your teeth or trying to make your hair look presentable i've got news for you dollar shave club has a lot of stuff to help you out you guys dollarshaveclub delivers everything you need to look feel and smell.

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"emissary" Discussed on MMA Junkie Radio

MMA Junkie Radio

02:01 min | 2 years ago

"emissary" Discussed on MMA Junkie Radio

"Whoa period of civil war again rebel emissary playtex etta and his crew travel farthest reaches of the galaxy to explore astounding new worlds and meet weird bug creatures and stuff this is mission tutors six mission desserts and improvised science fiction podcast six ceiling ticks everyone hey everybody the show's about to begin but before we get started here are some words from our newest sponsors maybe you've noticed that you have a little less hair that you used to have i know i have but you're not sure there's a real solution the thing is there are two clinically proven medications that let you keep your hair and now they're inexpensive and easy to get for five minutes now and just one dollar a day you'll never have to worry about hair loss again getting started with keeps us so easy sign up takes less than five minutes just answer a few questions and snap some photos a licensed doc remotely reviews your information and recommends the right treatment for you all without ever leaving your couch keeps offers generic versions of the only two fdaapproved hair loss products out there some of you have probably tried them before but you've never gotten them for this easy price keeps his only ten to thirty five dollars a month plus now you can get the first month for free one hell of a deal forgetting to keep your hair there's no reason to put this off any longer stop hair loss today the easy way with keeps to receive your first month of treatment for free go to keeps dot com slash junkie that's k e p s dot com slash junkie that's a free month of treatment at keeps dot com slash junkie keeps her today here tomorrow if you ever shower or brush your teeth or trying to make your hair look presentable i've got news for you dollar shave club has a lot of stuff to help you out you guys dollarshaveclub delivers everything you need to look feel and smell.

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 Trump says North Korea meeting will happen on June 12

24 Hour News

01:58 min | 2 years ago

Trump says North Korea meeting will happen on June 12

"A nicer water those and he said they'll help you relax and i said like are they are they natural are they like a herbal remedy he said no they're your friends just put him down so she did and then became physically powerless he walked her to a couch where she passed out when she woke up she says he was all over her i was crying out inside in my throat in my mind for this to stop and i couldn't do anything eventually dozens of women came forward and cosby was convicted in april sentencing is scheduled for september mike dougherty kyw newsradio give it every news time eight thirty four president trump is spending the weekend at camp david finalizing plans for a summit with north korea later this month what happened at that white house meeting between president trump north korea's top emissary correspondent paula reid while the president said it was a very good meeting he believes the countries are moving in the right direction and as a result he is reinstated this summit which he canceled only a few weeks back mr trump was publicly nominating himself for the nobel prize but now he's taking a much more cautious approach cbs's margaret brennan it's interesting to hear the president tried to set expectations lower by calling this a process he's saying it's gonna take more than one meaning to actually get to an agreement he bought himself some diplomatic wiggle room there to justify what he said he was going to do which is hold off on new sanctions north korea's nuclear weapons are still at the top of the list for the us defense secretary james mattis spills stand for the verifiable and irreversible denuclearization of the peninsula peter king cbs news philadelphia city council my kicked off gun violence awareness month friday with the rally featuring rare some virjee of many different religions city hall bureau chief pat loeb reports kenyatta johnson got involved in gun violence prevention when he was seventeen after his cousin was shot to death twenty years later homicide is still the leading killer of philadelphians between fifteen and twenty four specifically he.

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The U.S.-North Korea summit is back on

WBBM Programming

02:02 min | 2 years ago

The U.S.-North Korea summit is back on

"The socks eight two three victory over the brewers pleasant day today some clouds and sunshine high seventy three sixties though in the lakefront right now fifty three o'hare fifty four at midway and fifty three at the lakefront now cbs news cbs news update what happened to that white house meeting between president trump north korea's top emissary correspondent paula reid the president said it was a very good meeting he believes the countries are moving in the right direction and as a result he is reinstated the summit which he canceled only we get out a few weeks back mr trump was publicly nominating himself for the nobel prize but now he's taking a much more cautious approach cbs margaret brennan it's interesting to hear the president tried to set expectations lower by calling this a process he's saying it's gonna take more than one meeting to actually get to an agreement he bought himself some diplomatic wiggle room there to justify what he said he was going to do which is hold off on new sanctions north korea's nuclear weapons are still at the top of the list for the us defense secretary james mattis still stand for the verifiable and irreversible denuclearization of the peninsula and diplomats are engaged cbs news update i'm peter king wbz news time four thirty two mayoral candidate willie wilson is blaming incumbent mayor rahm emanuel for a series of problems that plagued chicago public school system as chicago public school officials are handling scandals of students being abused and schools not being cleaned properly businessman and mayoral challenger willie wilson says mayor emanuel has no one but himself to blame for all of the handpick is people to run the school become look i'll make sure you like school board still have your handpicked you know i wanted to be in those places you respond to fight wilson says he favors an elected school board in charge instead of mayoral appointees and he's still vows to reopen at least some of the dozens of schools closed under mayor emanuel mayoral hopeful willie wilson's the guest on our at issue program this weekend and you can hear more.

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Will North Korea Really Come to the Table?

Good Day USA

01:43 min | 2 years ago

Will North Korea Really Come to the Table?

"You by happy influential conversations from bloomberg television here's david west it for more on this story in north korea were now join the full muslim bloomberg seoul bureau chief peter pay could welcome to the program let me pick up with it's a diplomatic breakthrough is it a breakthrough because we've hurts things that are encouraging from north korea before the break in diplomatic however we may be seen whether they're north korea will actually he'd come to the table at have talked i think we we put before uh but often deep in late to buy time for them and they developed the program months so far the south korean special envoy even pitting dictate that they read it breakthrough uh that uh at least taylor told by kim himself that he was willing to top the us as well as south korea and included top about didn't include i think north korea and how much do we know peter about exactly what was said as i understand their emissaries from cell to one of the pyongyang they came back and said that it lisa principle it appears that kim jungle in may be willing to perhaps moss ball has nuclear weapons heats there's a guarantee multilateral the course of security for north korea condition what that wind that the held for a long time which was that you need coordination with not negotiable no matter what hear more interviews like this one on bloomberg television streaming live on bloombergcom and on the bloomberg mobile app or check your local cable listings global business news 24 hours a day at bloombergcom the radio plus mobile app and on your radio this is a bloomberg business flash for on the bloomberg.

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"emissary" Discussed on Harmontown

Harmontown

02:28 min | 3 years ago

"emissary" Discussed on Harmontown

"It's the year two thousand nineteen eighty earth has made first contact with an alien species the message from this mysterious alien species is we are here to destroy you if you are not worthy send three emissaries from your species each can bring one item a lottery is held the emissaries are chosen but dutch astronaut a german astronaut and on thing the astronauts are placed into prescribed craft it is sent up to the mothership orbiting the earth the erlach opens the manipu tent ominous aliens send their emissary into the vestibule of the ship car astronauts enter with their items what have you brought says the alien the dutch astronaut steps forward i have brought this model of a windmill the dutch were the first to harness the natural resources of the earth and although our species currently lives in conflict with our planet this is evidence that our people have it in them as early as the dawn of civilization to live in harmony with mother guy the whereas would have view brought the german astronaut pulls out a pistol says this is a german luger pistol it is the peak of german the engineering yes it is war based but your species did say you are here to destroy us if we didn't prove ourselves this is evidence that we have it in us to follow perfect order and have perfect hierarchy and that the results can be this this perfect piece of engineering that is literally never miss fired a shot the german lugar.

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Brendan discussed on WTF with Marc Maron Podcast - Episode 858 - Lizzy Goodman / Dana Gould

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

00:35 sec | 3 years ago

Brendan discussed on WTF with Marc Maron Podcast - Episode 858 - Lizzy Goodman / Dana Gould

"Y you know and i are you going to have your on tv show i'm going to be rich no not anymore still have to go out you ask me in minneapolis and do a weekend uh but on that but i am on executives over tv show yeah i know is no actually no but you should plug your the mc's comedy special goes he didn't get one earlier all you'll have a commie i have many of them you of another what what i found what must have you feel about this moment where like i did the comedy stars would netflixing was good i was glad that i got the opportunity sure yeah but then you hear about like you know sign fokker's rock and louis this is like the ah they just gave jerry seinfeld half a billion dollars thank god because we need who was learning it's not i'm not even jealous but it's sort of like give me like a maybe maybe like five percent yeah yeah i'm not complaining but if you're throwing money away yeah exactly i'll take a little no i was a you know i they were it was one of those things where i was going to tapered and then i was gonna do it with the company that i did my last russia with and then there were the dates were confused and then there were like well we can only do it on this date and i was getting ready to go into production on season two of the show and i you know you can feel the material right inning and reaching pugh tressens sure and you feel like dying yeah exactly and i was i was looking at some nick i was looking at a new products that list as they go i really wanted to get it down ago and i have a really great agent at william morris them silvio lund who's really a terrific guy and he goes let's just do novel and he called up this record company in damn nailed it and and get it in and i do find the audio lives longer than the video so people listened comedy on the radio they listen to comedy on their phone i it's rare that they will sit down and watch a special again that's true that's true i l walsh asif yeah yeah exactly but all listen to especially again all this shit you always in the comedy records i've heard before i listen to because because now uh you know you have that done than you're getting ready to go back on the road and yet you've got to frantically get new shit guinness shit yeah i mean i i'm not i don't believe it has to be one hundred percent new but it should be you really not believe that or you just tell you i really i know i really do but uh i'm i'm much lower than the percentage that it should be i think people want to hear one or two hundred families that you know like i i dunno i got the idaho 'cause i think you and are similar in that in that whoever's judging that whoever saying i this year from the record whoever saying that usually we make them up and you out now there are no there are a couple of those is ideal hit that twenty percent of the suv his new wave that why do we listen to that guy because he's the guy that hates us as much as we do he sees this is already just the way we are with a little disappointed with this was never the almost you'll has got it but not quite right but i i you know i probably saw george karlin i don't know a dozen times my life and i would always love it when there was a oh well he's going to do baseball and football great disease and you go this is great listen to this i sure i i listen i like hearing beats like he because this museum it is a form of music digitally form of music when you know like i hear who i can was due over and over again if it comes up in 'cause i got the shuffle gone on ma if schimmel comes up and mike because like the ear was such a master of this very specific type of timing kind of like morose jewish he you know who it's it's the disease descended joan roma jackie veronica yep that good good poll well he told me although yeah and you know who else was heavily influenced by jackie vernon let me guess who stephen wright sure that makes a lot of ads yeah i love jackie vern yeah jackie o'brien was amazing scr i saw he was the guy i saw my parents took museum when i was like eleven oh my god where that's what change to me because i saw him on tv do the slide show and then he came to albuquerque and i saw it in the paper at out in albuquerque was a lounge in the hilton hotel phantom my parents took me that's fist of it and that was what i was like that's when i knew it whenever you but what if he opened bush and soon turkomans should they would have been fine but what we were close enough just to see like you know he's a hold and he's like you saw all of it is in this and that it was not afraid i was like this is still good i have this conversation with somebody is really really interesting is talking about how much i love rickles yeah and i was talking to a a younger com we'll they're all younger and owes quoting some rousseau stuff and this goes help us us laura his own because he so unworkable because it has nothing to do with that yes all music i love the ud in the rhythm of the music and i remember seeing him sometimes he said things that didn't even make sense but because no i will give you a beautiful example i was with your friend and mine rob cohen at the desert in and they had just had a giant renovation of the desert in and it was sweltering in the show room when he goes out a forty milliondollar renovation they get a great airconditioning system two facts on the roof of the peace looseleaf paper glenn doesn't mean a gut dim thing he could have said tortoises zeroed onesyllable i tell you and could as a bear as you know i'm not laughing because i am straight and therefore i'm exerting my heterosexual privilege via in a derogatory way no eases thought of that of that part of that of that and that's what i have yet but the weird thing is we give you isn't something like schimmel who is usually the victim of his own joke yes in his life had the life of fucking job yeah and then the political whatever's politically incorrect about it itself offering a software threat and then i don't like he is the victim of every jew every joke has a victim and symbols act it was him yet in something somehow that can elevate ivan i agree i agree yeah i don't know if i have these discussions but like i for some reason i'm just able the separate i i don't know that you know revisionism is necessary just because times change in terms of what you you you feel personally attached to her what you like i don't i don't odds visa will difficult but but i can says it already owned for me i can still you know i don't do we delete all that stuff do we delete are emotional connection to right i i don't see how that's possible tackle and it's like when we damn my have hitler's paintings i have to separate you have that book on i have the coffee table excuse called raspberry lauda angles lot of hard angles not a lot of people but a lot of beautiful buildings oh i used to joke about that it's like well you know hitler was vegetarian but but yeah there's an i think i also in a lot of it is just being the soldier nostalgia for being too beating a kid a like watching rickles on the dean martin roast and every but it's a totally different school of show business than new and i grew up with golfway told me the story that when he worked with reckles rickles would would just roast him all day uh and then afterwards a poolside now you set a small lead money the eu is a very carrying well that lowvolume that's where my grandmother said she go see him in vegas and he has yet on everybody but he too she's she put it like this he apologizes very nicely renault but the only thing with bob did he couldn't understand is that that he wore jeans onstage right easily bob you can't you have to get the dress nice addressed and that's the general that's the thing that broke for that generation like these kids they they would do about those things that was karlin the kid he's talking gripe but what i'm saying is in that era in for us it's i think it's like we understand that he's seeking safe haggar he gets it whatever and it doesn't have any leasehold me we gotta shoulder that and if it's like a you can attack me for y'all still respecting somebody who is not of david his original like and that's in and that's and that's a that's a valid point that you do have to update in and he didn't he didn't need he i was watching him i went down it was yuri lewis rabbit telling when he died oh yeah and i was watching the jerry lewis rose from 1968 rickles was on it with the two things that but that it will rise rose that's not even the right the idea the one the first who the killer who's just like jerry i say this from the bottom of my heart jerry you're a jew his justly all right yeah but the other almost didn't he goes you know jerry's a clown and there are a lot of grey clowns emmett kelly that's about i will not give up the other baru hui was rose the is when the martin ones and j jim stewart was on the day is and he goes a jimmy i spoke to the family you're doing fine hosts one there was one where he was on it was his last appearance he was his last carson appearance because johnny was retiring on and then he may johnny lab zohar johnny got into a coughing fit careful john every time you cough lentils at home highfiving the life little good will and i love one and it's a real shit have you seen that one where they built him a club filled with just celebrities the martin there's a dean martin rose who was might have been the d martin show where they wanted to recreate alive rickles show i have that 'cause i signed up for the guide them the other demar the i never saw coming i had no idea there were so many but there was one that came it might have been the d martin show but they set up a club they mean on a sound stage and had people like pat boone in the audience all the celebrities kartal malta bar like he was probably nineteen seventy the early 70s mid70s yeah and and rickles just went up and did his club in insulted ever yeah it was great and as you sweating mid70s when the american flag had wide lapels warren ugly i go it's an interesting question though about because i had this moment where you know being a comic as long as we have you know you and i are old guys already yeah and and by the way just two i am fully aware before anybody jumps down my throat about don rickles and whatever i know i'm i'm i'm done i'm in i'm with this is not what is contemporary this is my view of it pete townsend was talking about the john entwistle used a bitch about wrap that he didn't get it yeah and he said it's not our job to get it it's our job to get out of the way and and i am aware of that yeah i get it i get it yeah well no i mean i you know i can it's becomes difficult with depending on what the transgression is here to stay supportive you'll have to be supporters somebody you can condemn somebody and you can you think somebody's awful but still say that second record though that sure you know and then you somebody said a really smart the genome our solar arguello should young new comic really really funny really funny and really martin somebody was bashing some on woke person new than apologize for it and she said you know you have to let people make their mistakes and grow in public he kinda led have to you have to let people grow catches white dot terrorise them into some sort of cultural siberia yeah the you know the my last special the one before this one um i had the whole thing at the end of boat the our word uh and how it's now relegated wizards see word and i tried to do on those bits ya ya and i wouldn't in i did i mean the bit was a boat the strictly the nomenclature of equating that word with the n word in this year oh it was actually addressing the that that whole thing it wasn't about like i don't use it that way no because then i did use it uh you know i know is that i would never do this and then i did i cheated all over the place and i you know i i said it and i said the n word in the sewer day and i say them now relish at home time mutter myself but whatever i would i would nothing happened but i wouldn't have done i wouldn't do it today i got i did a bit about it about defending you know the use of it in you know in a sense of like in a ended this style gic way um y yo how you know what i mean i grew up with that yeah right but then i guy the guy that igf someone i think it was an email the just said we you know i'm the parent and in and that was a you know i like i had a couple of swipes but in eventually i got a handle on it i i did it and then i met john mcginley lose of very on the forefront of of of all those issues and it becomes real via an and it's not about first amendment that's about though these people have feelings and their young their lives and you're okay i guess that's the thing hey how attached are you two that really need it have you read them of using that word it's not he's no one's censoring anybody yeah it's like you're hurting people's feelings and it's already hard for them yeah exactly brilliant yes i guess they have a rough enough time any and you can and that is truly you can say that will riggles talking about fragile new have enough to have enough they have enough trouble i my my feelings about that are like you say whatever you want the shoulder the uganda water take the take the burn yeah tell uber then handle it what the what's this new were the new season standard against evil what's it did you finish it's all done joey finished it premiers november first on ifc house a different uh it takes the story it takes us roy for the premise of the story is the whole idea of the shows was quite simple i love horror movies are my football so i just thought what if i did a horror movie but put a character in the middle of it that didn't belong here and it was basically what if my dad was an harm of has he wouldn't give it doesn't know just know does he does no he doesn't give fuck right and and we used to make that joke if you remember the indicating kong he's on the building in the planes are flying area my brothers and i used to joke did of our dad was in one of those planes that he would fly out of formation check the scoring the baseball game comeback shoot a little bit more go back and i just thought it would be interesting if like what if instead of buffy the vampire slayer it was just an old irish guy that didn't give a shit and and that was the the premise and i didn't i my mother is still alive but his wife who would have been my mother dies before the show starts and because i needed them to have a giant vulnerability or is just hassle oca them what john mcginley did with that was created this amazingly nuanced character is a good actor huh israel has been around for a long time ago he's not fuck in a row it doesn't seem age much either doesn't know he's he's good lives at the gym i mean is this arms are and i say this knowing he's listening to it his arms are terrifying um uh no easing these in crazy like an old irish boxer from like a poster for the he's like hundreds who was in the issue williams was like five over visas and wall street is a platoon he was in any given sunday but he's built like an old irish bar and how he's all upper body and but he created the he gave this character so much more than than i had give it it on the page and and i have to also give jet at foreign ego amazing kudos for the way she balances him the ballast that she and as such a strong actress the because john is done so much of this work that for the second season i had to right up to him so i developed a whole arc of a story line where there is a time travel element where he's going to try to go back and save his wife's life oh wow and as as always happens makes things much worse oh good and that's the arc this as the art the season and what's the name of the record that see the digital this is what did them i call it a record 'cause i don't know what else to call it how it looks it in a my doubt because my downloads sounds vaguely filthy ah mister funny men and this is what the kids on her the account how many you've done how many record seventy special uh i have the worst i proudly have the worst album titles fun houses fine yeah but it's an they keep up album and his version is albums much better uh let me put my thoughts in you i know what's wrong which was okay this is mr funding in screwed what i mean the bigger problem is really the art work generally yes like looking at what you can almost any comedy record in you know somebody who's like move was i think and yeah homeless every comedy record bullets every comedian gets to be a rockstar for that that one day we you get to look figure your album cover via i did all right like you know in retrospect i don't have any stupid once i ask you know the last don't try to be funny on your color exactly don't try to be funny on your cover that's it that's it iin the war here quad split headshot via the worst people from boston we both novaya the what were their different panels viking different hats and i can't say it on the air but i'll tell you what were probably sure have on those i remember seeing it becomes clear i like how there were different has i know they can play different jobs it would be a fireman and a chef who was a doubt i will good well it's good talk in the arabian sea all dana cooled the great dana gould so lizzy goodman who i'm going to be talking to next in just a second um she was very good friends remarks pits the lay mark spitz they david years ago and mark spitz was a a great writer in his own right of music writer and wrote a greg memoir and he was on the show and because he passed not too long ago that you can still listen to episode in the in the free feed if you'd like it was a great episode very personal very engaged and we missile marqui we miss him you know i think i'm a good cook when i make food at home but there's nothing worse than not having the right amount of an ingredient or 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brainer for thirty bucks off your first week of hellofresh visit hellofresh dot com and enter the promo code wtf that's how of fresh dot com promo code wtf so lizzy goodman the writer is my guest and i met her when i met her with mark once but she put me in her book can we talked about it when she was writing then she sent me the galley and i didn't quite get to it then she sent me the real book and honestly i just skimmed it looked at my part but i have very little recollection i talk to her about this but whatever was happening in rock and roll from two thousand one to two thousand eleven i gotta tell you i think i miss most of it i don't know what i was doing i don't know where i was i mean the last time i knew i was really blocked in to root to rock and roll happening in real time was probably in the late eighties and then side some i just some i went away i don't know where i went but i wasn't i wasn't locked in i'll mocked back in but this the two thousand one to two thousand eleven i was just a struggling comic trying to figure it out i do i get sober like i guess was right after i got silver that might add something to do with it but i just wasn't keyed in to the new york music scene i was just keyed into the comedy scene there was some crossover we we hammered out lizzy and i hammered out and i talk a newer the book is called meet me in the bathroom rebirth rock and roll in new york city 2000 a one to two thousand eleven which apparently are my lost years but that's not true i did i did radio did air america away way i got divorced a guy they'll get married got married and divorced in those years that would have something to do with it so i was listening to music but it was like twelve to fifteen songs that i put on a fucking mix after my wife left me that letter of that a lot of those twelve to fifteen sok unita heartbreak mix i got one how how long you've in la i have a real problem here really i just i've been here for three days where he frazzled you not a dry did you drive i know you drive here i'm from new mexico i know how to write weaker of your friends with i keep i always forget that i wanted to go i'm going you i i think that's a great idea it's great there had to how long did you stay in new mexico till like 14 seconds after i graduated from high school which highschool albuquerque academy i don't i didn't tell me all this now probably not i don't know you went to the academy here how do you i'm two thirty seven twenty five i don't know i just had a birthday and i have been i realize that i've been telling people my old age for at least the last couple of weeks because i forgot the elderly seven i was born in 1980 what was your old age thirty six turns out are you've and you have a goto no no no i just i have this joke with my friend rob sheffield that might ages is 26 forever i have not really evolved pass that i may i'm moving i think i might move i have to me become hear a lot more now what's happened and so i'm thinking don't use drop that i will vote will that but at one of my biggest or i've been thinking about where i to live show alana's neon it seems to be happening fedronic yeah in what way but i will tell you but just my biggest concern is that i'm gonna miss winter and one of my friends his out mean half my friends that i hear one of my friends his lobbying been lobbying me for an ally move for a long time was just suggested to me recently and i never thought of this like you go to new mexico for winter go have winter new mexico's eventually just go have a mild winter well i mean it's cold it's not new york coal i live in upstate new yorkright now oh my god where high falls new york it's what are you doing up there i was finishing a book this book yeah that embassies different one who one of the one of avoiding talking about on your wedding efficient probably hate it which is fine this not hate is not the word disagree with no italian a disagreement thing i missed it of course i miss this if the it's called earth and rock and roll in new york city two thousand one or two thousand eleven i know none of the bans in the really would you like some help well that's why we're going to do but not down yeah yeah so yeah i like the idea spending the casual winter's in new mexico where he here in the higher or some parka whitesnow nodded loom area the luminary of i've in kerala's is awesome when you get your health through in the lights now no known does the candles anymore you can't go said i know they are good they one hundred percent you it's the real thing all right some people still do the rules of very traditional place kerala's new mexico we what we think about living here i'm not admitting that i'm thinking about overweight now i don't lie echo part will people i i don't like them i don't wanna be near them like i don't wherever the williamsburg of la is i don't want any williamsburg valet thank god is not because here it's like bloctobloc you know williamsburg maybe i don't know it's different i mean i want to live by the beach but every night if that he can't live vitamese because yield you know fall off well why show business quarter year because of the book a real yeah marks like oh that didn't even occur to me what an awful idea i have i have to tell you were important which can into serbia but do you know some people like it so is known and i i know it's people love it and i understand that not being yeah i'm very sure there's no i know you and i'm totally teasing you i this book is about a period where you could actually get most of the people to play themselves as their younger selves and it'd be pretty quiet pretty close he added in various no it's going to be there like documentary and and narrative at like fictional adaptation series ideas around that's great i'm excited about it i mean i want to do more of that stuff anyway and always have or have in the last few years and so it's like fund to think about how to make the i mean people i've just felt really gratified by the kinds of ideas that have been a you know because as skeptical that the whole hollywood here at it so far than the people that i think we're going to be working with are awesome well we're did you how'd you start out where'd you end up you went to the academy graduate you got brothers and sisters yeah i gotta younger brother take that's a good name yeah he's get he lives in nigeria really he's a foreign service officer he's a diplomat o good for him the state department and cut them loose yes no um now not yet that's good maybe maybe nigeria this sort of like what i stand ninety he got there he just got there and it's funny we're talking about luminaries he's going to have lumina or something he's having he's getting married in december in england here on dan and he's going to have all this new mexican stuff we've been talking a lot about the new bringing the new mexico to the new mexico christmas vibe to london thoughts nice yeah so what would you go to college after you can ran away to fill it i mean i wanted to be on the rules like right away it was all about new york as obsessed with new york and with the idea of lake eastern urban magic get the eu's when he grow up in a smart household in new mexico you i i want to go to where really happens i like all this cowboy cowboy intellectual shit i that's exactly how i felt i mean it is disturbing to be talking to you about this there there's basically no one who gets out of new mexico so those of us who do all have the same kind of like course spirit about that if you go back they go back oh hi tonnes tons yeah i mean you're going back now i've been thinking about it yeah it's drawing i think about it to the way on wife yeah my heejoo like i don't i like i i don't i'm done with new york i'm almost down with la whereas from argun go this is how i feel you say i'm too young to feel it this is literally the conversation i've been having while i'm here i'm like i will always feel like i live in new york that i don't need to live there anymore and so therefore where do i feel good well that's only corral us exact cheese like me literally only corral starting to feel that it's the only play me for me is not quite corral but i always romanticise prowess but i'm a couple of miles away how you i think would i very close to corral but a all right so dan study what english and classics and your girl at the plan was only good was to be a writer now what a crazy idea what idiot would do that you can't be a writer what was the point of in new york and what just like hang out no the plan was to idea you know i was eighteen i didn't have i had a i had a homing instinct not a plan like i'm gonna come to college because you have to go to college like i'll go as close to new york as they can go and i was really good student and i cared about being gets you now i love school and great china japan but no the plan what it what happened was and this is the right call like i now understand this in a way that i can articulate and didn't at the time that i advocate for it it's like i had to put myself near stuff that would so i could be in a position to have what should happen next revealed to me brian what i mean later that's what new york is yet it's a no to be you know for me and and for others that that's kind of what the books it out here at sense of i don't know why i'm going here i'm just going here because it seems something's telling me to do that and i can't tell you why and i may not even know right away or for years but it's where my next myself is going to emerge on the oddly e know it's because the place it new york holds in the cultural unconscious yes for years since the 70s yeah specially if you're groovy artistic you know literary it it's like it it's grooms large yeah it means something to mean something it's an idea and hand but there but still to this day there's nothing like it i mean you you know you can i can't live anywhere unlike well but do you did you find always at like i was just in new york and for the first time in my life i went over to jazz at lincoln center as fiftythreeyearold and it's have always been there and i was there for for fifteen years on and off and i did nothing like oh yeah hey like all this stuff veiled me like people you go the museum of modern art i did once twice here but i am now like i feel like i'm ready to do that stuff in its fortunate because now i understand new york pretty fucking while i can get around and ought to do what other so if i go in for three days on my show again see let's do it but that's okay that is exactly why my i feel like my current relationship with new york is among the best that i've had which is like when you leave you are able to to be a kind of the it's almost like the first fifteen years are investing in understanding the place enough that you can become a named formed tourist when you go there so now i do that too like i go in from upstate you know every week or so every ten days and i do three days of city staff all my friends i gutted restaurants i do all these things that i had no energy to do because those so relentlessly overstimulated by the time i laughed at that i was like i can't even like i just want to hide and so now there's this the slate has been cleared and it's like new york it's fun again but that i don't ever feel when i was nineteen and started coming to the city from philly all the time i felt like mm i needed it too like kind of worked on me in order to help me figure out how to become myself and now i know how to be myself how did you go there were year ranked ninety eight i moved to philadelphia and i was in school my dad is a new yorker semi dagger opens in status in town via and my grandparents unawares there for a while a who's going to get that apartment come on you tell me about the survivors adel got your grandparents of art okay it's on has pink walls the who is getting that next ruth good men lives there she she's you know she's she's it's her place man here i mean no one's it's a rental it still like i know rentcontrolled renzo deeply rent controlled rental yeah your eyes are like glinting the cia is the new yorker area edge rooms juve everyday that have what's the kitchen like hallander yeah it's the last of the rent control listen everything you're thinking is true it's your fantasy come true it's like the per it's an it's walker they've this would be good always is when you've when i was there you like the idea of control was i i'd rent stabilize but that doesn't mean something i and stabilise to that that's like they're like it's not as brutal so really when you move to new york in earnest this is when this book starts yeah i mean i started coming to the exactly like i started coming to the city from philly to see show i love the story is it's in the introduction to the book it's basically like i i moved to new york the first summer that idea college says after freshman year i i moved to the city i lived in my grandparents apartment i worked at murray yeah and i got a job in a restaurant you worked at sesame street i had an internship at sesame productions or whatever that it was the production company that pretty sesame street that will you write in turn shed you're gone for showbusiness i was not go i was like this is the justification for me being here that's the one the ethics as all i i didn't pick it it was like available and we really i was like i need to go hang out in new york city trash camera oscar with no no they never let me near it wasn't a coup it was like i don't even remember what i did i wasn't near actual sesame street it was the production cut it was it you know is a midtown office building that was set not no would you how could you work for sesame street nakos he were seriously streets production company produces a lot of shows sesame street the crown jewel i was a lowly turn we love the you're acting like this is my choice yet one day they rolled in and they were like do you want to go to the sesame street sat and i was like nath no that's not out having no anxieties me i was i was i you didn't meet ernie organiser continued i wanted to meet rock voice mark i tend not grow her no grown all right grover and the guy with nights in serious who you're like all right yeah he taught me how to ride the subway right are you there you're working says mystery not going to not doing all of the things that i know i've disappointed you deeply and just i got a job in a restaurant 'cause i needed to make money because i wasn't in school and i had to lake support you know i had free rant that i had to lake right pete or whatever you run by close i guess whatever i cared about at that time records and so i got this job at this i got this job training to work at this restaurant crossstrait from grand central station said they were opening any day now and they are hiring up staff i got this job and we end of course it took much longer for them to open and they had anticipated citybased they had hired this staff of kids board hot city kids who went there every day for like four hours and got paid this lowly amount of money and did things like practiced waiting tables and learned the wine list and stuff like that and my coworker was nickel anc who was the guitar since strokes and he was in this band like hit with his friends called the strokes of now the portal opened and you're well no i mean no it was years that was nineteen that was the summer of ninety nine and it was i mean it was a couple of years before like albert the other guitarist had not joined the band yet they weren't they it was my friend nix like ban nick i was nick was like halfheartedly in college and they were just city kids and i was i mean the portal that opened that summer was not rock and roll it was new york like oh nicholas cool in in that he grew up in the city and understood how to sort of like wander wale and how to get into bars and how did you set just it was sort is it was what like i had been learning i it with training wheels in philadelphia that as a new mexico kid like how do you how do you orient yourself in urban life and let these places kind of lake you know wash over you and expose you two things you're supposed to be exposed to how to get the rhythm down and that like nick and i would just hang out after after pretending to wait tables and you know lake wander round office parks and smoke weed in office park teller fina behind off sparked pillars and sort of like just wander around midtown it wasn't and then sometimes i would go downtown to lake st mark's and sneak into bars and do stuff like that beazley it was like that was what was pal 99 summer here that must that summer was those were my marriage was falling apart that was the other big thing that is happening for every avatars you knew marc maertens mary and who's out more a yeah and then he got thrown out of that house in the other find to subway weighed down us instead it was way chiller than what you are dealing with try and dukan redo one man shows that was that are that is i was the best theater oh my god the west bath yeah that became significant for me later really yeah because all the artists where had their studios in there and still do it's still let me extra to yes rate on the west that the west village became later after i finally moved to the city in two thousand two became like my spot because i don't like coolness like i don't like i didn't like i do not want to be on the larry cider off that city will whites places for me when i when i moved there i guess was eighty nine the first time and then i went back in nine the four remember you saying that yeah but but you know and i talk a little bit in the book about the you know what happened then but it really wasn't the only put i was just a little weird historical artifact you put that this from the guys from the generation before radio exxon giuliani for two minutes well i needed that i've might do i thought i was well represented good you were i agree um so this is all just before nine eleven yeah and the you've you found your place on the west side where it's not hip with artists that are well no i mean i went back to philly for like that so what i'm saying is that the that's why it's this is an important about the book the s not bands like i wanted to be a lawyer or something i thought it was gonna be a lawyer i was a school kid but i was pulled towards this sense of magic and misery about new york city that is the idea that we are already just talking about and he hadn't yeah i loved writing but i didn't work from my school newspaper i didn't it wasn't like what what it was was it was like i'm i i i was being drawn to some expression of culture that was related to my generation that i that had not happened yet and i did not know that that's what i was being drawn to you that i during the next few years in the part the four nine eleven were all these bans interpol yesterday as strokes and in you know white stripes and other place like around the world there all the stories that converged in the book all of those people were feeling similar things like assent this basically the same age as i was and feeling a kind of like i wanna make something that i don't entirely know what it is and like the world is not really receptive for this kind of this kind of vibe it's not supposed to be about urban call right now it's not supposed to be about notions of near and what was it supposed to be about in a music industry is supposed to be about dance music erica in you know i i mean in england it definitely was about dance music or was about like postscript popstar th i mean and in my business it was like i mean in the writing what became my business it was like it wasn't that exciting to imagine yourself as a rock journalists because there wasn't a lot of cool rocked the end so that's right it was sort of submerged in jam jammed asked you for a little while they're right i didn't think oh i'm going to be a music journalists i thought there's something about the way it feels to wander around manhattan at four p m on a really hot day in the summer where everyone rich has left the at they're making me feel like i'm getting somewhere and i can't really tell you why and so i went back to college and i studied and an ice kept in touch with neck and a couple of other people that i owe you and he would come and play shows and then i would see in philly and i will go see him and i had friends in philadelphia who are starting to lake want to go to shows so it was like it was a thing to do that had enough in it for years it was a thing to do that had nothing to do with aspiration of any kind and that was really important and it was also like it was like traditional rocking aware coming back it was not necessarily art rock punk rock was sort of finished in a way and and i guess wakeham sort of 'cause like some of the bands in the book i was given like for some reason at that time when i was there in late 90s in then like i left by two thousand two yeah but i was given cds and stuff for iced up for some reason i have the jonathan fireeaters he shot up i do that's awesome yeah they were so amazing i listen to it and i was into it but like what you're with that have been have 90s yes okay so okay so that was that times out yeah yeah they were the yeah they were round is great ho right i have my buddy john daniel was involved with music so i was sort of up to speed on something yeah okay will and 90s wealth that's all right i mean but like like jazz it only o good if you were there i mean that theoretically lay the thing about looking at the book and reading through some of it is that like when i read please kill me that was the those were before me and i was when that was what everybody was going to new york to find was that that's what this is about no i get that with moscow eyes were going to find that for sure and you kind of right about that yes like that's we're all looking for that thing that was like just it was just the the remnants of it and the and the people that were involved with that you'll first wave of whatever made new york cool were just kinda droopy greyhaired dudes walk around in their weather payments that don't fit any more with somebody going like that guy used to be something yeah if that if they are even living there anymore but i i guess i just think that that's the continuum i mean it's not like every winning please kelme weren't weren't polling on i see the continuum of that notion of new york identity as much much 70s as going ponca much further i mean i think much scher further back that than just whole idea it's it's it's i mean this is later but it's fifty yeah and it's jazz it's it's fucking ellis island man it's like come to it's it's in the american identity of new york gonna come here and you're going to reinvent yourself and the culture all potency of that has is almost as old as you know as the city in some way and so but specifically in the world of the arts yes you know what what you know what came out of new york and and what sort of defined it is you had a wealthy people who were willing to kick in to make she had happened yes right yeah and a lot away sure to reject the of a lot of the factors but then i mean you know that for us because this is my taste in i i i think yours too like the punk the 70s punt seen in cb jesus just like i meaning please county was my total bible i'm obsessed with everybody and napa i love that music that's my stuff i came to that late you're now the earth your specialty is more material for the business card wait to the partly to the party on air safety and wrong kinda leadership skills doesn't look good for any of us march mirror merit love martin on but you know i mean obviously there's also the whole greenwich village like i mean dylan for most people dillon is the touchstone for this and it's so the idea that new york is this place that's constantly polling on a previous constantly kind of coopting and borrowing its own past self via to reinvent for a new group of young people essentially the a new for them version of the same thing how are they related to turn all right they can still find the space there if they can still kinda save their which is the question now but like for my for this book for young in the bathroom like i don't see it as a see it as just this sort of the the the chapter in the cannon at that new york cultural story it's just rose right into the bookshelf right there you know after police kelme and after madonna and light up before whatever comes next but it's just it's a stop it's a stop on the larger train i think that and what comes next is going to be a a prominent either chinese or russian trend do you have that i'm good authority seems like it that's the vets me speculating that summer noncash catastrophic start i have is not catastrophic at all as i say that so so when now way what starts to drive when did you meet the the the way great mark spitz i met the late great mark spitz pretty early i i assume he he served as some sort of guide to whatever the fuck happened to you while yeah i think he'd really like you putting it that way well what mark would say is that i thought he tommy everything i know of on so he would want me to say it that way i tell you this bright i've kid from new mexico through philly who's looking for a rock fantasy and that dini and blames outta some yes he's like i can help you out seles ruin your life and i was like great and say it's the glare sorry yeah he talks in his memoir about how i was wearing flipflops for spammy and he's like they're not shoes zia like he was very my new mexico vibe was pretty united wearing makeup i didn't like i was still kind of like fresh scrubbed girl that point and i think mark with space mark dea like you know bad bad asrat girls with lake peroxide blond hair and he was sort of like you are entirely to clean for me basically and i was like okay but you like me no no as a recipe for disaster who's gonna win well that's where it's later and he would say things to me like yes chased me you know and i was like hot can you do the thing amassing unity or what he writing for spin when you met him yes so the way i'm marklevinshow sara louissant who is also a great character in the book and one of my best friends was my roommate in new york when i first moved there so i graduated from college and by that time it was clear that like the city's music scene was happening and i felt i was like dare to it i was inspired by all of i was inspired i was inspired by and have sudden a there was something to write about nato i then was like i wanna be a writer who writes about this but i i taught secondgrade frontiers first 'cause like i can't be a writer thought that's nice i taught at an allboys private school on the upper east side uh glazer's no really has a double life for awhile we were real like fullon teacher major oh yeah misguided men secondgrade whether in how what how did that and why did that and it a two year and it's like your estate teacher and then you either maybe you kind of the carrying on of that would have been to go get a degree in education and like stay in school and would stop you from doing that oh you know i'm are on that cya now now he loved at he he would talk about how wake up in the middle of the night and i would go 'cause i had i talked to my sleep and here go boys get in line and you'd be like jesus who is this girl and is scary she's like yeah so now okay so now you're you're getting you're you're getting involved with the rock senior roommate is what is she says sarah was marks like little protege at spin so i met mark before i graduated from college actually at coachella the one of the first coach as i went out with sarah to see if we could live together we went to this rocked festival together to lake try it on here and on she introduced me to mark who is i mean it's it's in the book their their meeting is pretty awesome like he was he didn't understand instant messenger and because and he's mark air sarah i was like this sort of protec savvy little jewish girl in new jersey who is who liked his writing it's like high and i'm also girl he had like why is this window coming up and they can eventually she wore him down in the house and so she introduced me to him and we had you know a serious series of battles for about a year and a half that then got together and yeah i mean mark was my tour guide through he was writing for span he was a hot shit writer writing cover stories about all these bans and how'd you manage not to get all fucked up i don't know my i honestly i i think it's genetic i i really do i just i don't know may just have the thing i'd die went out and drank every night like everybody else and reich you know there is all kinds of drugs around in yet but i just didn't care that much about it for you but it's not good for me that makes it sound like something i get credit for and it's not like i get credit every not be compelled by that like the like to just a drink in smokes from we'd and just enjoy the music you don't have to go you know you i mean i like you don't have to divert alliance but it's it's it makes it sound like it's a matter of sort of will and it's not it that's why are saying connecticut's like i don't have i'm compulsive in other ways right now i get it i get it that's why i'm saying you're lucky unlucky yeah so that's how okay unlucky so let's talk about you know the the bands that define this thing and the ark of this book because yeah like i just i i think i got my first walkman album like six months ago okay i'm larry liking it so okay i think i got that guy so record i thought that was get those good singer yeah so the strokes you knew that you saw them become what they want us in then and then like the the white trips our guests were coming in from detroit occasional yeah but i didn't the white strips were not like sort of first generation in new york of that were like any who has that were the strokes interpol yay as an lcd soundsystem feel like the whole lcd soundsystem thing like people are like you got your view murphy guy got your mike i don't know what he did so i had to get quite catch up with dfa miyazu jonathan the guy over what is the aga he sent me all this shit yeah i like that the prince worn dance called record yes good first record i love okay maharidge starting went ahead to go find me that record like i said you have one of them around their way it not be you know we have one ring laying around here we were using as a as a as a like a a map for when you eat your time castle your way into this that's you will love james and y'all that's i listen to a no it's great it's great i watch the movie and i i actually narrated a short documentary five lcd thousands of heavier like who the fuck is this no anyway script evaluated out but like i know he something because he mental i too a lot of people like i can see how they met something that people can also see how they kind of like you know kind of like well there's a there's a gap pure that was once occupied by the talking heads yeah that we should climb in do totally the talking heads said that i mean that's what i got no problem that kinds of sending okay i am not jane so you're not to defend now i understand how music work tell me more i understand you tell me my understand that there is now out of new she it yes and that you just keep inventing the old shit i think i mean yeah all right sure i think the thing that all the judge the the period that the book covered with the book is about is not music it's about all the things we i talked at it's about it's about new york it's the central character it's about what it feels like for this group of people at that period of time under to do a thing that is eternal as we just described which is to be young and to feel on scene and to get together with certain friends serendipitous lay that you meet who unlock something in u n two in the shadow of lake at theoretical anonymity make something beautiful that makes you feel alive i mean it's pure that's like that's art that's young people that's new york city that's rock and roll that the but it's important for the book that the context is also from my generation are these people that we're talking about it's happening in in coincidence with all these other major global events like napster we just 2000 and nine eleven which is one hundred percent you know a huge part of this story obviously and it's about and then the reinvention of brooklyn and the commodification of brooklyn and the exporting of that via the internet the newlyborn internet to the world as this sort of notion of how to live like a lifestyle brand to be earth to by going to interview james he said i was trying to dip into that like the brooklyn idea in williamsburg and all this stuff in kenneth ease my way in he goes oh yeah that's all our fault like cool thanks scott and it's that's what so this story is about that but it's about that through the lens of paul banks and carreno and yes you know later jack white or the kingsley on guys or whatever and then off to england and off to the killers in vegas and around the world but that record we should nikola pile of what you did have it'll be about three hours them sti no than i i know i the jonathan firefighter that's a hall in allied it yeah that's a you know you get points for that that's a big crowd point the area the i like one thousand out is great i thought it was pretty good but those bans i mean to answer your questions such as it is it's like there's no like yeah there's nothing new under the sun and this is a retaliating of a generational story there will be i i believe that people make things new i i'm not one of those people that yadav a problem with appropriation i don't have a problem with with the of the evolution of music and he because like if you really look at rockets the people that really make something completely new or generally misunderstood and you may be years later people like i think i get it and somewhere they're like nato the other but there's a core group of fans that are sort of like worthy the only one said get it yet that bullshit any basically the story of the book too i mean if this is mark says this in the book i mean he's one of the greatest characters in it where he's basically like look i was 28 and writing for spain or whatever less was thirty something his thirty already and writing for span and like mark who had an encyclopedia harry say that pete accent encyclopedic thank you very much sandy pratt thing music and film knowledge and all that stuff of was sitting there in new york city loving york city's sort of but just board and that the thing that this that this that there's the sort of beginning of the book that everyone had in common energized boredom energy everyone was bored james murphy was bored he did not know carreno carreno was bored she did not know julian julian was bored gillian didn't know paul paul uh the interpol paul was bored and it was like in their own independent corners of this town at that period of time they all did something about that board and then mark spitz or sara or any of the other sort of non musicians but journalists future bloggers a and our people like all the different sort of um i don't know contestants in this in this like road show here all had in common that sense of what we have here right now is really not enough and we need to like build something cooler and no one else is doing it so we're gonna do it so when spits heard like i mean he says this hilariously in the book where he's just like you know when i heard the white straits it took me a minute to figure out that i was being saved because it was my job to write about mark mcgrath every day and like there it was boring it oh yeah loaded orient and that's the story idea like i get it i get it it's like well boredom mikey to classify all those artis as board i understand that but i think that if you in the history of of what happened with punk rock in the sort of like you know kind of strange angry apathetic posturing that happened is that what it comes down to though anybody who surfaces with any consistency may be board but their workers oh right well that oh totally i mean and that's also new york city like everyone in that town has to labour via the i got a want it yeah and you've got to keep pushing two two to sort of break away from the pack of garbage because in any city especially that size you know for every one may be original band there's going to be like twenty guys just tooling through rehash especially in an era where i mean it's hard to in it's hard to overstate this and it is crazy now but i mean it really seems crazy now that like being in a rock band i loved the guys and dumped than fired or talk about this and later the walkman they talk about how like telling your friends that you were in a band was like now i take us that late yeah it was like really didn't elettronica music kills janjaweed could do we have to go through this aid rallies yes on thursday is at sad than you know like you're gonna make us do that you'll biased drinks rate i mean it was like the least possible cool thing to do and and it was like lame and and kind of an opposition on your friends to ask them to conceive lesser so this whole the it's hysterical because relatively quickly people would be dressing across the country and around the world like they had just been thrift in on the lowery side but not when these bans formed but that's interesting because that whole thing you know that thrifty thing has reinvented itself with every generation of people yeah it's like the now like their thrift in 1980's clothing and i'm like no i know i now i'm feeling that to it's weird like his when i was in high school we were thrift in shark skin yeah not a better yeah yeah and then i had ended at kinda the whole for you know that rockabilly kind of boos like whatever the fuck it was going after the suits in any time we speak to someone about this like can we address this with the culture in general that we just nominate certain erez as as as take as as out of the loop of of going to be rediscovered some ambitious ivan around anymore like fortunately for now everything is made so badly can i know that will never happen you'll never never be thrifty 2017 they should is not going to hold up maybe we've inadvertently solve the problem rallying stealing the fascists that were previously thrift it yeah this is not even making shit that will hold up to be so maybe we just need a generation a cycle through that in like twenty years people will actually have to create new stuff because it will literally going at all disintegrate and have to create outfits said will withstand the heat of there i'm sorry i've taken me right out of there i did it i'm sorry for him you're not enclosed outfits with of'short new mexico's supposed to fair relatively well i mean waters going to be a problem but waters going to be a problem but we have the mountains we aquifers dory right on an akko yeah we give a lot of as i understand it no no eight i think we give a lot of water to california so mother fugger's he had one of the california's thirsty mansour okay so like i know owner free burger this one again with a list of names like oh i show you read all your quotes first come on of course yes okay then you looked at the list through an area in and i kinda poked around it like you know the chapter headings ps but a vote like i don't know grizzly bear the national i came much really lay to and i understand why they're good but i i don't know that i go back to the records up much tv on the radio maize i listen to their first and second record i'm like holy shit this is the media their incredible yet the a as the first couple of records i listened to her i had him the hives i had that record i remember liking so what is your problem nothing we're just get vampire weaken don't think i've ever heard him all right we'll interpol i think i got a recent record with like their back in a mike i missed it the first time pretty good we've routines just gotta whoever teens rokaya feeling about pretty good yeah kind of punky right yeah yeah i hope we will come on something and you'll be like you really have to go and do that is that what you're looking for ya well i buy a records i'm i'm mike i mean i mean a renaissance had music appreciation i'll send you a list i need i don't know like i have your book i know yet we'll you do though actually 'cause you can't start gone mouldy reaches yeah amazing did you play who's got the crowd i don't have it all right we'll play who's got the crap by the multi pages is just one song well that song in particular is your gateway drug for them dave across comedian i know him with his worse are you hold steady i like that guy greg gregory great right yeah he's a good talkers if thinker is good the killers i like that okay kingsley on first who records and crime what happened well y but okay that that's another alternate title for this book sure is where's the staying power while they're all still making albums and touring and dura al like literally all of these people yeah so like you okay let's talk about them what happened what did have well it's up first talk about like the whole that you know a nine eleven left in the world in that like in terms of near all over that chapter see that's another place right you would you but compounding the board white whatever that boredom was was that horrendous existential to terror sadness grieving like i think i talked to spits about that a bit did he ah but a lot of this came out of that well it didn't come out of that it riot it was positioned as gross that word is under the circumstances to be heard in a different way and buy more people as a result of it so lake nino none of these important records the first as record the first strokes record the first interpol record early dfa staff none of that had been was written post nine a lead and it was not a response to that ren before but it was about you know it was about all these themes that we are just talking about yet culture considered obsolete like sadness and anxiety and loud guitars as the solution to that as an expression of that is a response to being alive right it was like oh that's old news and then you know the towers came down and new york city is under attack and america is under attack and it makes you kind of return to the the sort of lake core aesthetics of rebellion and that's rock and roll so what are you want to hear you on here jack fucking white playing guitar you wanna hear the urgency of the first strokes record he wanna you want a kind of a manic toughness the that and i think so these bans who it's not like if nine eleven hadn't happened the strokes wouldn't have broken an englanda had already broken in england and kind of ignited this industrywide like doubletake towards new york before nine eleven happened there album was supposed to come out like the week after nine eleven the first one in the states so it was already kicking off but what nine eleven did is a couple of things i thank and this is argued in the book it it it animated it it increase the number of people who were immediately feeling the need for that kind of sound and it also turned the world's attention to new york city culturally in a way that it had not been it had not had the attention of of sort of like global cool hounds in that way in sense i dunno i also like it they were it was also the guy seventy hanshin for perseverance yes i mean ranked sympathy yeah you know you're bruce springsteen how to go to werleigh hurst tracy and got them back call tied to hit it and yeah and i think i mean all these bans talk about touring in the wake of that and being it off doing comedy in the wake of sure i and the but being cast is kind of emissaries for new york and again for this idea of what new york is about that the entire world on some level was either either loving your heating at that point in new ways it was it was interesting time because if you were new yorker and you did live there yeah you're like we're we're gonna fight yes totally and we're thinking about that now and and it and the other thing that it did i think for the purposes if this seen such as it is and tune day from tv on the radio talks about this in the book i think he when he when he said this to me it really kind of it was a turning point behind her standing as he talks about how the szekely he thinks nine eleven put a kind of pause button on the jansher vacation race there has already happening i mean the the sort of post the giuliani into bloomberg cleaning up of everything sure that would eventually result in the new york the slick anodyne near erni lives there no one does it's it's saudi billionaire's who have apartments for their homes yet they're summer homes that they like might go to it's me the ranch russian it's all yeah and it is it's well chinese i don't know what an honor i it's it's just feel like you've done it feels like it doesn't have a a cultural identity has architectural and the identity right now is money money has a bleaching a fact eventually on culture i think in right now new york feels to me like burnt out literate like whited out like nine i'm not saying that race i'll have her hands out in the way that it was burnt out was bankrupt brought down in the way back right that that like acid has been porn on it and it's it's blake bleached out like i don't know i mean i keep seeing you know i don't know what causes this but when a create is her your it has deadened yeah by capitalism yet money on and by people that don't that day they don't like it will be interesting to do really explore what is rooting there you know in the sense that you know it is completely antithetical that to what it used to be when it was i think the big difference was there was a time were always money there but the people that worked there could live this and now that central and what's funny and not ha ha funny but of course like the it's all connected to this era because that's way jane saying it's our fault is funny the in an again brooklyn brooklyn because it's all those people the new york became the kind of place where you would invest in that kind of apartment because of all of the culture that that re in live in debt and made it interesting and sort of buzz he and brand rival in that way and now all these people who bought their on some level whether they know it or not as a result of this this latest ingretation of that new york thing i live in a place where none of those people can be but this is also like in a way so boring because it's like no shit that's called the cycle of art madda called lake art versus commerce 101 i mean it's going to just play its that and held out over how they all moved out of the city like the that generation of their artist once they got money they all live here they orly or here or they live in new jersey or connecticut or are you not a lot of them keep sort of like i love this i understand this instinct i feel this instinct they keep places in new york like a little apartment on near the barrier rodal whatever lay in just to kind of be like no no i still guide of me i still have a place wrestle like this so this the the ark of this book front yo two thousand eleven sort of the ends in brooklyn beat becoming the like the the the wealth center of hipsters totally and the but also just that that did it ever have any integrity other than for sure but i also just think it's yes it did i'll answer that but also that the idea that that would have one of the things that's hard to see from now because it's so obvious that that is what took place is how unlikely that seemed that that would at the time if you had been sitting there in two thousand two and and sort of prognosticating that in twenty in ten years or whatever like williamsburg a place you could not get cabs to take you was going to be the default locus of cool for the globe for but it's weird because there was some would have been laughed out of that conversation what's really like i lived in the story i had an apartment in the story from 95 five hill like two thousand and two whenever they might sub wetter was just informed by the new known of the building that he now add the lease uh quick note with note under the door there were people like louis had a place in williamsburg there were people moving into long island city yeah and likes her was sort of happening but that was because you could get space fits dole rahab winning is that it's just like everyone move to williamsburg because it was cheap brand because in this to return to it ten days saying i mean it was like you could get free he indeed siddig met each other because they lived in the same converted loft and they were passing each other's rooms enough and seeing that the same shit basically was on the floor at each other's rooms and it was sort of like i guess we should probably talk you know you've got a same weird stuff in there and like loss and in that's not like it's so easy to be like wow that must have been so cool and it's like it's it's only romantic later at the time it's like i need to live somewhere and and and be able to paint place with that right but that's that's the story of the amine ripe but that context or that that framework of life has repeated itself yes generations generation totally though the yeah the law thathat's another title that we here but the thing about nine eleven that tunisia was saying that's important is that whole justification we're talking about in the money in the bleaching out or however you want a phrase it these are they his theory and i by this now is that that was coming much sooner and nine eleven pause debt because there was a sense i mean people thought no one would travel there anymore no one wanted to get on planes it was like leaving for a second it was like is new york's economy going to die this the is this really like are things you can get cheap they were rally are things are things going to you know plummet here is it gonna be russ 70s new york thing again because no one will tourism will dinro wanna live here and all that stuff is they're going to be because it was it was terrifying and it was like you know every plane that flew overhead it was i mean people there were a couple of years where and so what that created for the purposes of this book is this weird a period of uncertainty that was really a gift to these bans because there was a couple of years and this is my my hay day really of lake going out in seeing shows during that time it was two thousand to two thousand three maybe into two thousand four but fair li where it was like it was just wild everyone was like are we gonna die but hey let's party en route druggie and it got dirty and it wasn't that expensive yet rent wasn't going up really of sort of just like the whole the whole apparatus was trying to figure out how this was going to shake out and it was like kohl let's play the you know you should read boca for answer some of those questions behind the scenes what did you ever read that book securing the city on my god who wrote i like i like i recommend this book to so many people i did you secretly right it no oh could cover ominous yes it's a bow it looks like the beginning of every law and order old school lunch or episode is by christopher dickey who i believe is james dickey's son in the i still see him as a you you shows up on shows on cnn and stuff but it's really about how how new york had to create its own count yes i should read that it is to the injury yes 'cause it was like we had we're our own city and we ourselves yeah because federal government and the cia and the fbi were not talking real yeah there was in the federal government was not really stepping up so these guys know what was going yeah and it was it was with giuliani still who was like we've got to make our own counterterrorism force and we've got to have international alley yet ray kelly yeah food and this guy cohen associated irate ocala read this like and then i'll be like i should have talked to him for the buck this is my life like i wake up still at night is damage extradition don't even choke of add that why never writing another oral history ever again or only organized oh it made me move state to a cabin in the woods by myself because they had an emotional breakdown like it's so hard that organization is really a nightmare well you did it and people like it yeah and you know it seems to be all in their uae dill per is let's check it out they clear talk of what do you want from me i i think it is hilarious eiriksson i let my favorite people around the book art like that one of my favorite pieces written about the book was by my friend dan aasi who hates who does not like any of this music basically he's in the book talking about conner over since he loves turnovers but he basically doesn't he's a music nerd anna anna a rock critic and this it he's just like all his hand suck basically i mean not literally but it's not his stuff but the thing is like i have i like i i'm not a connor overspent but i have him in here handsome my best interviews with people who are mike i will that is why and say like i'm at that's basically i think i i enjoy the fact that this isn't your world i think that's more fun lagging learn the creator of service project to talk to someone like that then someone who's like julian casablanca's this my favorite rock star of all time you're like well you're gonna love this yet boy do i have a book free like the this is writing i take this this part of journalism seriously like it's not my job to write a press release for one of these fans its job to convince those who aren't naturally inclined to take this as interesting that there's something there well here's what i have to say i'm happy you kids had your okay are you gonna try to say that that was not condescending he has had a knock out of it is out of all right it's a joke it was it was it was a sarcastic coffin ha ha ha pa let's shift gears demar serious yet um you know i and then the private police state fire juliana of just personal stuff i mean like i i've and talk to you really since markelle passed away a eulogized him on this show thank you for doing and you know because i like the guy and i literally your text to them like would like a week before it happened here do you talk about what happened can you talk about it or not i can totally i talk about i liked talking that i think people are a little afraid understandably to ask me about him because it's france you romantically involved on and off your best friends he was on the up and up again it seemed yes 100 percent it's really tragic i mean the answer to what happened which is what i guess is like not known i suppose i mean i don't really know i don't know anything other than he died and then i i texted you too to say sorry but then i got no information and then you know you just sit there and go igor would have and what that you it's not he's one of those guys ruettgers bound to happen but he didn't seem like it was going to happen that way well a lot of people you feel like it's bound to happen and then it doesn't i mean mark was had a history obviously of drug use and i think most people assume that he died of an overdose and that's not what happens i mean he didn't he we don't know for sure because there was not an autopsy performed huh so there's no leisure a cause of death that attack i mean cause of death unknown as far as i know you ea yes so this is what you're not afraid to talk about we have no information kind of accept i mean they i guess they just think like i so i was here and you know we shared custody of our dogs for six so mark or seven an hour years together in from my 20s and then we broke up like 10 years ago and but we stayed incredibly close friends and he was my creative partner basically like that mark this book would not exist without mark he is the person on the other end of the line consistently throughout frame iin merrier well like naughty i mean sometimes like sometimes is needed grady stuff but more just all writers need like the the i'll people i guess that create the the sort of like hootie who is on the red phone was on it was like i don't know and this isn't working in what do i do and like help and also i just need to that it's like that was the dark we are really really tight creatively and he would do the same we would talk to each other about writing every day and our dogs and so i was out here and he had been in a period of incredibly badge oppression for a couple of years on i mean probably his whole life it had been really bad and um i was helping him in his his family was helping him you know try to get the right mental health care never quite came together for him and eventually and so eventually after a couple of years lake road than the month before he died he was better than i've ever seen and he may have told you that india he was like like running a little bit yeah he was taking better care lindo visit no no one he hadn't dan i mean i think i know that mark lied to me about drugs or the years he wasn't like here's what happened the night that he died he went to a bar on the night that i think he died he went to a bar because he i mean we don't know exactly when he died he went to of our on february second and he had a couple of drinks drink and a half with a friend and at six thirty something like that and he came home and he walked the dogs with this friend and he was inside his house with the chain on the door and the locks on the door and a bowl of pasta on his on his like coffee table they found him and i couldn't hear i didn't hear from him the next day and i was worried and i didn't hear for him the next morning and we he didn't do that with that i mean he the dog think mark loved dogs er that anything in the world and wouldn't fuck around if their howarth and knew i was all the way out in california i mean he was like mortar arctic about the doksan i am pia and that's how they a his eventually i woke up a bunch of people up in his super went into his apartment and he found him just slumped over on his couch with dinner on the table so like as i have never done heroin but my understanding is you get big bell right and also there was no drug paraphernalia in his house and no drugs oregon went yeah i mean it's an aneurysm or a heart attack or or what any he i mean the dogs were fine they were in that house with him for thirty six hours and they were thirsty and in america pasta here at left that here too viking luggage joni it in like pardon me asshole i'm hungry and like their sausage in that layer she's too short can get up to that just short short leg's well you know it's it's it's nice to know that it it probably wasn't some eur grisly relapse no i mean if fit you know i don't know enough about you tell me can you like have secretly donovan of heroin fight hours before and then go home and make dinner and then die from doing that i mean a dozen quite at up but i you know but it seems to me that he put himself and his body through and you not up to him you know you know and if you don't know what you're like i don't know one is less physical was i mean you could only had one he high made him go and get one with wh what was the informality all systems go but you don't i mean this is what the there's i mean i'm going to be dealing with moves it out over that out of my life by not heart stuff that well i mean right like this is if you have a blake blood clot if you've an an aneurysm is undetectable i mean you can't like you can show people and this we don't have any control over any of this in the illusion is that lake via if you take care of yourself and you get physical zinni's sort of like drink your green juice that there is a sense of of control over warding off death in it's just not like that and like mark abuse the shit out of his body but that's also no guarantee that he was going to die in that way and you can take really gets care of yourself and you can get hit by a but i mean you know or diet something undiagnosed it's just what happens and it's horrible it's horrible but the one thing we do know was quick yeah and he was there with the two people in the world that he loved the most which are those two dogs no good swear to god i i'm sorry for your loss and congratulations on the book and it was nice of you to dedicated to him of guel i my friend imran told a a really potentially off color but actually amazing joke about this on this happened because imran loved mark in knew him very well a lesbian he goes so that's what it took to get together because there was dedicated to my parents and they got for this is the only thing mark could have done and i mean you know you knew him quite well and you guys have a shared sense of real black humor and so do i and mark i mean i can hear and sometimes it's being like the biggest promised that book was there is not enough amee nso i had to be something that will yeah you've got to have the dark your mercy you don't you know so the bottom doesn't fall out was nice talkin united sock india that was fun those good those promotional in some ways don't forget if you're in now way you can join me and brendan for our only l a book event and signing this sunday october twenty nine th at seven pm go to live talks la dot org for the tour page of wto of pod dot com i can't play ktar tired and a little depressed boomer lives uh uh uh

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