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Don't cancel culture won't come for you to it won't just focus on conservatives and republicans it'll come for all of us that's how bad this cancel. Culture mindset is they tell us not even the dead this cancel culture mania on the left is going too far abe lincoln george washington. These people are heroes. Apparently animals aren't safe either. Last month after a kentucky derby winning horse failed a drug test. His trainer offered an explanation. It was like a cancel culture kind of a thing so they're reviewing in order to grasp the amorphous meaning of cancel culture and it's rising social currency. Will i turn to its precursor political correctness and a recent episode of the podcast. You're wrong about co host michael. Hobbs tracked its earliest usage. The first reference that i could find to it was actually in china under mao. Let's talk about how the press wasn't politically correct. Actually started out as a term that liberals would kind of apply to people to their left. It was away within left wing movement. Organizing of saying. You're trying to impose the standard of purity but then you also have the rush limbaugh usage. Right yeah i mean rush. Limbaugh did something in the late eighties. It was actually very innovative. He started doing segments on his show that were basically the liberal of the week. Hempstead texas the cheerleader controversy. Rages on the school district down. There is very much concerned ladies and gentlemen of lawsuits by the now gang a bunch of others if they ban pregnant girls from being cheerleaders. And i'm thinking about this and we're gonna have pregnant cheerleaders. You're going to have the football team break. The huddle leaders breakwater way of finding these anecdotes. That all illustrated the same concept right that there were these oversensitive preening liberals that. We're gonna freak out if you did anything that even remotely offended them and it was just a new outrage. Every single day and that approach has really taken over the right wing media ever since but now the term political correctness seems to become a little shopworn cancel. culture seems to have replaced it. The tropes of political correctness have come back in word for word exactly the same the same sort of use of anecdote over statistics the same slippery slope arguments the same moral panic the anytime minorities gay people black people trans people start to become more visible in the culture. There is this explosion of anxiety that casts them as much more powerful than they are and much more threatening than they. Are that if we start using the pronouns. That trans people want soon. We won't even have a concept of gender anymore. You have to project into these absurd dystopia and scenarios to find a reason to be concerned about these extremely reasonable six. It's the same arguments that we've had really throughout time that we should not change. There's a database about so-called cancel culture. I've been totally obsessed with this thing called the canceled people database. Which is exactly what it sounds like. It's basically a crowd source effort to identify every single case of people who have been quote unquote canceled. There's extremely famous people on there and there's normal workers but then there's like professors who were fired after a student filed a complaint. A normal thing that happens at universities. There's a guy on there who was beheaded after he showed some cartoons of muhammad two classes in france. There's also one of the real housewives of orange county who lost a beverage endorsement when she tweeted some sort of covid truth or stuff to me. It's a perfect example of one of the ways that moral panics function in society is they lump together all of these events that really have nothing to do with each other. You find that mostly. These stories aren't even true. Yes one of the cases on the cancel. People database is a guy named matthew halls an orchestra conductor who was fired from the oregon bach festival. And if you read the description on the council people database. It says that the reason he was fired is because he was chatting to a black friend. he's british and he affected. I guess an offensive sounding southern accent as a joke and a white woman overheard them and complained and then he got fired. His blocked friend has said. I wasn't offended by this. It was totally fine and yet he gets fired anyway. This story spent months bouncing around the internet. You can still find all kinds of stories about it a couple of months after this. The oregonian gets the documents in which the university of oregon describes why he was fired and it turns out that there were four complaints of sexism against him. You know there's something like two hundred people on the cancel people database. And i can't go through. And debunk all of them. Because we would be here all day but a lot of the ones that i've looked into as soon as you do any kind of good faith inquiry into what actually happened with this person. They're always much more complicated than they seem. At first i think a good example is something that came out a couple of days ago. That princeton is no longer going to require classics majors to learn greek and latin. And this is of course. Something that came up word for word in the political correctness panic. There was a lot of panic around you know. They're not teaching. Shakespeare to kids.
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"emily wilder" Discussed on Make Me Smart with Kai and Molly
"Man. I'll tell you what it was. The newsy three day weekend actually really really was. I actually had to consult kyw before the show to try to figure out what he was going to do. Because i have nine possible items here. And i don't know which way to go. We need. I almost feel like i need a little just like a reading list recommendation. Just i don't need to talk about this. This might should totally read the story in the new york times about how the us ran out of everything that on the show page. Actually it's not a bad idea. Yeah that's smart. Boom there were times. I think we do that in our newsletter to. Yes for sure for sure we do. We do okay go but what do you got. I'm excited to see this on on your own. Alright okay. let's do it so kashmir hill had a piece in the new york times days ago. Now but as i said it was all coming from the three-day weekend and so catch me writes about technology and she writes about unintended consequences. I think is a fair description of what technology is doing in our lives and she has a really thoughtful piece. I thought About the firing of. Emily wilder at the associated press last week four some tweets that ms wilder since Mostly washer was in college. She had done some in her early. Professional life. she's she's a year or something out of stanford and she was fired by the associated. Press for this. And and i think what you will about that but kashmir's bigger point is that it wasn't supposed to be this way we all sort of thought back in two thousand eight nine ten when Social media posts started getting a lot of attention and more people were on it and we were discovering what idiots we were only in our lives There was an expectation that there would be some kind of detente. some kind of mutually assured destruction some kind of realization. That you know what you do as an eighteen year old or a twenty one year old while perhaps germain in some respects does not necessarily dictate how you conduct yourself professionally. And oh my god. We were all stupid idiots once. Can't we all just call bygones and have some empathy and understanding for stupid mistake says youth and move on and that hasn't happened. In more of the point. These social media posts and and passed act are becoming weaponized and it is destructive and hurtful.
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"emily wilder" Discussed on Democracy Now! Audio
"These. This organization does have powerful powerful and wealthy connections in east conservative ecosystem. But i also want to make sure that people understand it. This is just a group of college. Age trolls honestly and they did not have to become relevant. They should not have the associated press should not have felt threatened by them. I truly believe they have gone away. He would've spun their wheels on this in gone away If the associated press had not fired me and had not sort of empowered them and empowered. They're boy in empowered. They're disinformation and finally Professor janine zaccaria. What are you going to teach your students as they come back to stanford now about what this means for journalism in the end because of emily's outspokenness and bravery and taking this on instead of slinging away. Do you think. Journalists will advance in this country and particularly around the israel-palestine issue. Well i scrap my class and foreign correspondents on thursday that i had planned and we're devoting it to this because it's so important obviously emily's appear and friend of many of the students in my current class who have been very traumatized by this whole thing wondering again whether they have a future in journalism reaching out to me quite shell shocked and so i feel the need is their instructor to talk about. What's happened. But i don't know what to say to fully amy because what i do as someone who started at reuters worked at the washington. Post that the conventional media. You know what i train them to do. I don't know. I just don't know what to say right now. I'm still processing at all. But what i will do is hold up. Emily's an example. Of what. I believe they all should do is use there brilliance and channel their convictions. Into amazing reporting that gets picked up by amy goodman and others. she had another story by the way about. Wait times for for for Kobe testing that was featured. Rachel maddow as an intern right. So in the end you know l. stressed that this is really the ap's loss and whoever hires her next is going to be so very fortunate. Maybe she'll be. Sally busby's i hire washington post and then following up with steps and i wanna thank you both for being with us. Emily wilder fired by a p which has fired up the journalism community. Not only in the united states and others for more just reporting around the world. And you can't janine zaccaria emily. Wilders journalism professor at stanford university who is the former washington post jerusalem. Bureau chief next up. Today marks the first anniversary of the murder of george floyd by minneapolis place switch sparked international protests.
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"emily wilder" Discussed on Democracy Now! Audio
"These. This organization does have powerful powerful and wealthy connections in east conservative ecosystem. But i also want to make sure that people understand it. This is just a group of college. Age trolls honestly and they did not have to become relevant. They should not have the associated press should not have felt threatened by them. I truly believe they have gone away. He would've spun their wheels on this in gone away. The associated press had not fired me and had not sort of empowered them and empowered. They're boy in empowered. They're disinformation and finally Professor janine zaccaria. What are you going to teach your students as they come back to stanford now about what this means for journalism in the end because of emily's outspokenness and bravery and taking this on instead of slinging away. Do you think. Journalists will advance in this country and particularly around the israel-palestine issue. Well i scrap my class and foreign correspondents on thursday that i had planned and we're devoting it to this because it's so important obviously emily's appear and friend of many of the students in my current class who have been very traumatized by this whole thing wondering again whether they have a future in journalism reaching out to me quite shell shocked and so i feel the need is their instructor to talk about. What's happened. But i don't know what to say to fully amy. What i do as someone who started at reuters worked at the washington. Post that the conventional media. You know what i train them to do. I don't know. I just don't know what to say right now. I'm still processing it all. But what i will do is hold up. Emily's an example. Of what. I believe they all should do is use there brilliance and channel their convictions. Into amazing reporting that gets picked up by amy goodman and others. she had another story by the way about. Wait times for for for Kobe testing that was featured. Rachel maddow as an intern right. So in the end you know l. stressed that this is really the ap's loss and whoever hires her next is going to be so very fortunate. Maybe she'll be. Sally busby's i hire washington post and then following up with steps and i wanna thank you both for being with us. Emily wilder fired by a p which has fired up the journalism community. Not only in the united states and others for more just reporting around the world. And you can't janine zaccaria emily. Wilders journalism professor at stanford university who is the former washington post jerusalem. Bureau chief next up. Today marks the first anniversary of the murder of george floyd by minneapolis. Place switch sparked international protests.
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"emily wilder" Discussed on Democracy Now! Audio
"Father. And i just want to play that clip for you. Dad for some foremost was great and did not deserve to die alone in a hospital with just a nurse holding his hand. He was also a life long republican who was politically aware. He watched television news. Programming fairly regularly read the newspaper and engaged me as a young kid in politics which is kind of where i got my in the world around me from. He was a trump supporter and voted for trump and believed him in what he had to say. So that's kristen or kiza Talking about losing her father But you had major impact as a young reporter at the arizona republic and a full so you could go back to commenting on peter thiel. Yeah that story was really forwarded. In my time at the republic it was pretty early on in my time at the republic and it represents exactly the kind of journalism that i excel at that i want to continue doing which is highlighting the under told underrepresented or suppress stories of certain communities In linking those experiences to a larger investigative context To a larger to to the situation that were in where means of color the most at risk for covid nineteen So i was. I was really grateful to have been a part of that and two broken such an important story in there. you know. that's what. I tried to continue to do impactful stories like that And in terms of The connection with peter thiel yes these. This organization does have powerful powerful and wealthy connections in east conservative ecosystem. But i also want to make sure that people understand it. This is just a group of college. Age trolls honestly and they did not have to become relevant. They should not have the associated press should not have felt threatened by them. I truly believe they have gone away. He would've spun their wheels on this in gone away. The associated press had not fired me and had not sort of empowered them and empowered. They're boy in empowered. They're disinformation and finally Professor janin's ikaria. What are you going to teach your students as they come back to stanford now about what this means for journalism in the end because of emily's outspokenness and bravery and taking this on instead of slinging away. Do you think. Journalists will advance in this country and particularly around the israel-palestine issue. Well i scrap my class and foreign correspondents on thursday that i had planned and we're devoting it to this because it's so important obviously emily's appear and friend of many of the students in my current class who have been very traumatized by this whole thing wondering again whether they have a future in journalism reaching out to me quite shell shocked and so i feel the need is their instructor to talk about. What's happened. But i don't know what to say to fully amy. What i do as someone who started at reuters worked at the washington. Post that the conventional media. You know what i train them to do. I don't know. I just don't know what to say right now. I'm still processing at all. But what i will do is hold up. Emily's an example. Of what. I believe they all should do is use there brilliance and channel their convictions. Into amazing reporting that gets picked up by amy goodman and others. she had another story by the way about. Wait times for for for Kobe testing that was featured. Rachel maddow as an intern right. So in the end you know l. stressed that this is really the ap's loss and whoever hires her next is going to be so very fortunate. Maybe she'll be. Sally busby's i hire at washington post and then following up with steps and i wanna thank you both for being with us. Emily wilder fired by a p which has fired up the journalism community. Not only in the united states and others for more just reporting around the world. And you can't janine ikaria emily. Wilders journalism professor at stanford university who is the former washington post jerusalem. Bureau chief next up. Today marks the first anniversary of the murder of george floyd by minneapolis place switch sparked international protests.
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"emily wilder" Discussed on Democracy Now! Audio
"Father. And i just want to play that clip for you. Dad for some foremost was great and did not deserve to die alone in a hospital with just a nurse holding his hand. He was also a life long republican who was politically aware. He watched television news. Programming fairly regularly read the newspaper and engaged me as a young kid in politics which is kind of where i got my interest in the world around me from. He was a trump supporter and voted for trump and believed him in what he had to say. So that's kristen or kiza Talking about losing her father But you had major impact as a young reporter at the arizona republic and a full so you could go back to commenting on peter thiel. Yeah that story was really forwarded. In my time at the republic it was pretty early on in my time at the republic and it represents exactly the kind of journalism that i excel at that i want to continue doing which is highlighting the under told underrepresented or press stories of certain communities In linking those experiences to a larger investigative context To a larger to to the situation that were in where means of color the most at risk for covid nineteen So i was. I was really grateful to have been a part of that and two broken such an important story in there. you know. that's what i tried to continue to do. Impactful stories like that And in terms of The connection with peter thiel yes these. This organization does have powerful powerful and wealthy connections in east conservative ecosystem. But i also want to make sure that people understand it. This is just a group of college. Age trolls honestly and they did not have to become relevant. They should not have the associated press should not have felt threatened by them. I truly believe they have gone away. He would've spun their wheels on this in gone away If the associated press had not fired me and had not sort of empowered them and empowered. They're boy in empowered. They're disinformation and finally Professor janine zaccaria. What are you going to teach your students as they come back to stanford now about what this means for journalism in the end because of emily's outspokenness and bravery and taking this on instead of slinging away. Do you think. Journalists will advance in this country and particularly around the israel-palestine issue. Well i scrap my class and foreign correspondents on thursday that i had planned and we're devoting it to this because it's so important obviously emily's appear and friend of many of the students in my current class who have been very traumatized by this whole thing wondering again whether they have a future in journalism reaching out to me quite shell shocked and so i feel the need is their instructor to talk about. What's happened. But i don't know what to say to fully amy because what i do as someone who started at reuters worked at the washington. Post that the conventional media. You know what i train them to do. I don't know. I just don't know what to say right now. I'm still processing at all. But what i will do is hold up. Emily's an example. Of what. I believe they all should do is use there brilliance and channel their convictions. Into amazing reporting that gets picked up by amy goodman and others. she had another story by the way about. Wait times for for for Kobe testing that was featured. Rachel maddow as an intern right. So in the end you know l. stressed that this is really the ap's loss and whoever hires her next is going to be so very fortunate. Maybe she'll be. Sally busby's i hire washington post and then following up with steps and i wanna thank you both for being with us. Emily wilder fired by a p which has fired up the journalism community. Not only in the united states and others for more just reporting around the world. And you can't janine zaccaria emily. Wilders journalism professor at stanford university who is the former washington post jerusalem. Bureau chief next up today marks the first anniversary of the martyr of george floyd by minneapolis. Place switch sparked international protests.
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"emily wilder" Discussed on Democracy Now! Audio
"Quote. We did not make it lightly referring to the decision the ap's executive editor. Sally busby did not sign the memo. She begins her new job next month as executive editor at the washington post. She's making history as the first woman. Executive editor of the washington post. She told npr she is quote handed over day to day operations at ap. So quote. I was not involved in the decision at all. Meanwhile journalists at the protested. Wilders firing and open letter. Monday writing quote. It is left our colleagues particularly emerging journalists wondering how we treat our own what culture we embrace and what values we truly spouse as a company unquote. For more we go to phoenix arizona to speak with. Emily wilder in her first television broadcast interview. We're also joined by janine zaccaria. Who was emily. Wilders journalism professor at stanford university. She's the former jerusalem bureau chief for the washington post. We welcome you both to democracy now emily. Why don't you just take us through what happened to you absolutely first of all. Thank you so much for having me last monday. A group from my alma mater the stanford republicans began to post online past posted. I made on social media in an attempt to expose my history of activism for costing human rights while i was an undergraduate at stanford university and in an attempt to link a p to hamas in the next two days. Ibm's receive a lot of harassment Harassment as well as a prominent republicans on the internet Lamb meat including senator. Tom caught in and ben shapiro. I was reassured during this time. By my editors that i would not face repercussions for my past activism in that they just want to support me while i was facing the smear campaign less than forty eight hours after zampa college republicans began to post about me. I was fired reason. Given was a supposes social media violation. Sometime after i joined a p on may third i was not even an explanation. For what social media policy is violated or tweet head violent policy and i still have not received an exclamation and emily when when you originally hired. What were you told by the associated press of what it social media policy was for for its reporters. I was told puertas must not share. Opinions online must not bias in coverage. And you were covering. What were you covering while you were at the. Ap i was hired as a news associate on the west desk which covers the western united states. Fourteen states not united states and my position is not actually reporting position it was an entry level kind of apprenticeship editorial and production apprenticeship in. So i was. I was concerned with assisting coverage on the in the western united states. So it affect. Why would why would these folks at stanford or argue. It seems it seems. Almost nonsensical would go after you in this in this concerted in a campaign like manner. Well there's of all this is this is not my first encounter with this group They during my time at stanford they built a reputation as kind of bullies antagonize. Really any student. They disagreed with it. I was in their crosshairs more than once so they knew my name. I guess they do not forget about me. And i can't say for certain why they did what they did. But perhaps they learned that. I had joined the national news organization at a moment that news organization under public scrutiny and they took it as an opportunity to both smear me and smear the associated press on monday the union representing washington post reporters now. Of course. Emily was working for the but the union representing washington post. Reporters tweeted quote solidarity with the staff of the p. Emily wilder we hope. Management provides swift answers on her termination and clarifies. The newsroom social media practices on quote the ap said in a memo to staff monday. It plans to review its social media policies now. This significance of the washington. Post writers union expressing solidarity. is that sally busby. The executive editor of a p is going to become the first woman executive editor of the washington post beginning in june. Which brings us to our next guest. Janine zaccaria professor at stanford university who taught emily wilder. You were the washington. Post's jer bureau chief in jerusalem. Is that right about a decade ago. That's correct so. Can you talk about this controversy. So i wanna speak on about it on two levels. I wanna speak. Personally as emily's instructor at stamford what has been like. And then i want to speak in the macro but what i think is really happening here so personally. I want to say that when. Emily called me to tell me that she had been fired by the i literally was shocked. I was really shocked. Because i really didn't know what to say. I said i said to emily. Close your laptop. I need to call you back. Because i really need to think about what's happening here. What we're gonna do. And how am i going to help. My brilliant former student continue with a career in journalism. Because yes i spent most of my career close to two decades reporting on the israeli palestinian conflict started my career as a young woman in jerusalem in an earlier. Incarnation the ninety s for reuters. So i am very aware. Perhaps more the most to the sensitivities of around the questions of bias and reporting on the conflict nevertheless as was mentioned in this case it wasn't about bias and it wasn't even about social media policies. Because if you review what. Emily posted said she started at the. Ap there was one tweet. That mentioned a a a mild opinion about the question of objectivity and on reporting on the conflict in the language we use and Editor could have come to her and said i think you should take down that tweet because it expresses an opinion in violation of our social media. Policies doesn't mean you can't have these opinions but you can't broadcast them on social media. But i think the bigger issue in this case. If you read the letter of dismissal was that it mentions you cannot have any conflict that could be perceived as as as a bias or leading to accusations of bias. Something to that effect was the language and so when stanford college republicans documented some of her pro palestinian activism in college. I think they got a little spooked. Because it was in the context as emily mentioned of israel strike on the gaza bureau and hamas and people who wanted to defend that strike. We're trying to accused of knowingly sharing a building with a moslem demoss rules that gaza strip for fifteen years. they're everywhere and and this was. This was a way to feet continue to fuel that narrative. Look you hired this news associate. Who has pro palestinian views and so it really really was a full-on disinformation campaign. Not only emily but the ap these are actors who are not interested in having a serious conversation about how we cover the israeli palestinian conflict. They want to take down credible face.
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"emily wilder" Discussed on Democracy Now! Audio
"Quote. We did not make it lightly referring to the decision the ap's executive editor. Sally busby did not sign the memo. She begins her new job next month as executive editor at the washington post. She's making history as the first woman. Executive editor of the washington post. She told npr she is quote handed over day to day operations at ap. So quote. I was not involved in the decision at all. Meanwhile journalists at the protested. Wilders firing and open letter. Monday writing quote. It is left our colleagues particularly emerging journalists wondering how we treat our own what culture we embrace and what values we truly spouse as a company unquote. For more we go to phoenix arizona to speak with. Emily wilder in her first television broadcast interview. We're also joined by janine zaccaria. Who was emily. Wilders journalism professor at stanford university. She's the former jerusalem bureau chief for the washington post. We welcome you both to democracy now emily. Why don't you just take us through what happened to you absolutely first of all. Thank you so much for having me last monday. A group from my alma mater the stanford republicans began to post online past posted. I made on social media in an attempt to expose my history of activism for costing human rights while i was an undergraduate at stanford university and in an attempt to link a p to hamas in the next two days. Ibm's receive a lot of harassment. A lot of Harassment as well as a prominent republicans on the internet Lamb meat including senator. Tom caught in and ben shapiro. I was reassured during this time. By my editors that i would not face repercussions for my past activism in that they just want to support me while i was facing the smear campaign less than forty eight hours after zampa college republicans began to post about me. I was fired reason. Given was a supposes social media violation. Sometime after i joined a p on may third i was not even an explanation. For what social media policy is violated or tweet head violent policy and i still have not received an exclamation and emily when when you originally hired. What were you told by the associated press of what it social media policy was for for its reporters. I was told puertas must not share. Opinions online must not bias in coverage. And you were covering. What were you covering while you were at the. Ap i was hired as a news associate on the west desk which covers the western united states. Fourteen states not united states and my position is not actually reporting position it was an entry level kind of apprenticeship editorial and production apprenticeship in. So i was. I was concerned with assisting coverage on the in the western united states. So it affect. Why would why would these folks at stanford or target you. It seems it seems. Almost nonsensical would go after you in this in this concerted in a campaign like manner. Well there's of all this is this is not my first encounter with this group They during my time at stanford they built a reputation as kind of bullies antagonize. Really any student. They disagreed with it. I was in their crosshairs more than once so they knew my name. I guess they do not forget about me. And i can't say for certain why they did what they did. But perhaps they learned that. I had joined the national news organization at a moment that news organization under public scrutiny and they took it as an opportunity to both smear me and smear the associated press on monday the union representing washington post reporters now. Of course. Emily was working for the but the union representing washington post. Reporters tweeted quote solidarity with the staff of the p. Emily wilder we hope. Management provides swift answers on her termination and clarifies. The newsroom social media practices on quote the ap said in a memo to staff monday. It plans to review its social media policies now. This significance of the washington. Post writers union expressing solidarity. is that sally busby. The executive editor of a p is going to become the first woman executive editor of the washington post beginning in june. Which brings us to our next guest. Janine zaccaria professor at stanford university who taught emily wilder. You were the washington. Post's jer bureau chief in jerusalem. Is that right about a decade ago. That's correct so. Can you talk about this controversy. So i wanna speak on about it on two levels. I wanna speak. Personally as emily's instructor at stamford what has been like. And then i want to speak in the macro but what i think is really happening here so personally. I want to say that when. Emily called me to tell me that she had been fired by the. Ap i literally was shocked. I was really shocked. Because i really didn't know what to say. I said i said to emily. Close your laptop. I need to call you back. Because i really need to think about what's happening here. What we're gonna do. And how am i going to help. My brilliant former student continue with a career in journalism. Because yes i spent most of my career close to two decades reporting on the israeli palestinian conflict started my career as a young woman in jerusalem before it. An earlier incarnation. The ninety s for reuters. So i am very aware. Perhaps more the most to the sensitivities of around the questions of bias and reporting on the conflict nevertheless as was mentioned in this case it wasn't about bias and it wasn't even about social media policies. Because if you review what. Emily posted said she started at the. Ap there was one tweet. That mentioned a a a mild opinion about the question of objectivity and on reporting on the conflict in the language we use and Editor could have come to her and said i think you should take down that tweet because it expresses an opinion in violation of our social media. Policies doesn't mean you can't have these opinions but you can't broadcast them on social media. But i think the bigger issue in this case. If you read the letter of dismissal was that it mentions you cannot have any conflict that could be perceived as as as a bias or leading to accusations of bias. Something to that effect was the language and so when stanford college republicans documented some of her pro palestinian activism in college. I think they got a little spooked. Because it was in the context as emily mentioned of israel strike on the gaza bureau and hamas and people who wanted to defend that strike. We're trying to accused of knowingly sharing a building with a moslem demoss rules that gaza strip for fifteen years. they're everywhere and and this was. This was a way to feet continue to fuel that narrative. Look you hired this news associate. Who has pro palestinian views and so it really really was a full-on disinformation campaign. Not only emily but the ap these are actors who are not interested in having a serious conversation about how we cover the israeli palestinian conflict. They want to take down credible face.
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"And new brunswick new jersey high juan. Hi amy and welcome to all of our listeners and viewers across the country and around the world well. The associated press news service is facing growing criticism for firing a young reporter after she was targeted by a right wing smear campaign for her pro palestinian activism while she was a college student at stanford emily wilders jewish she was a member of students for justice in palestine and also the group jewish voice for peace at stanford university before she graduated in twenty twenty. She was an intern at the arizona republic before the a. p. her for an entry level role in phoenix and was two weeks into her new job. When the stanford college republicans began highlighting some of her past tweets their campaign was then amplified by right wing media and politicians including arkansas republican senator. Tom cotton the says it fired wilder for violating its social media policy. The decision came just days after israeli forces bombed the building housing the ap's office. in gaza. ten senior executives stood by the decision to fire. Emily wilder noting in a leaked memo to editorial staff quote. We did not make it lightly referring to the decision the ap's executive editor. Sally busby did not sign the memo. She begins her new job next month as executive editor at the washington post. She's making history as the first woman. Executive editor of the washington post. She told npr she is quote handed over day to day operations at ap. So quote. I was not involved in the decision at all. Meanwhile journalists at the protested. Wilders firing and open letter. Monday writing quote. It is left our colleagues particularly emerging journalists wondering how we treat our own what culture we embrace and what values we truly spouse as a company unquote. For more we go to phoenix arizona to speak with. Emily wilder in her first television broadcast interview. We're also joined by janine zaccaria. Who was emily. Wilders generalist professor at stanford university. She's the former jerusalem bureau chief for the washington post. We welcome you both to democracy now emily. Why don't you just take us through what happened to you absolutely first of all. Thank you so much for having me last monday. A group from my alma mater the stanford republicans began to post online past posted. I made on social media in an attempt to expose my history of activism for costing human rights while i was an undergraduate at stanford university and in an attempt to link a p to hamas in the next two days. Ibm's receive a lot of harassment. A lot of Harassment as well as a prominent republicans on the internet Lamb meat including senator. Tom caught in and ben shapiro. I was reassured during this time. By my editors that i would not face repercussions for my past activism in that they just want to support me while i was facing the smear campaign less than forty eight hours after zampa college republicans began to post about me. I was fired reason. Given was a supposes social media violation. Sometime after i joined a p on may third i was not even an explanation. For what social media policy is violated or tweet head violent policy and i still have not received an exclamation and emily when when you originally hired. What were you told by the associated press of what it social media policy was for for its reporters. I was told puertas must not share. Opinions online must not bias in coverage. And you were covering. What were you covering while you were at the. Ap i was hired as a news associate on the west desk which covers the western united states. Fourteen states not united states and my position is not actually reporting position it was an entry level kind of apprenticeship editorial and production apprenticeship in. So i was. I was concerned with assisting coverage on the in the western united states. So it affect. Why would why would these folks at stanford or target you. It seems it seems almost nonsensical. They would go after you in this in this concerted in a campaign like manner. Well there's of all this is this is not my first encounter with this group They during my time at stanford they built a reputation as kind of bullies antagonize. Really any student. They disagreed with it. I was in their crosshairs more than once so they knew my name. I guess they do not forget about me. And i can't say for certain why they did what they did. But perhaps they learned that. I had joined the national news organization at a moment that news organization under public scrutiny and they took it as an opportunity to both smear me and smear the associated press on monday the union representing washington post reporters now. Of course. Emily was working for the but the union representing washington post. Reporters tweeted quote solidarity with the staff of the p. Emily wilder we hope. Management provides swift answers on her termination and clarifies. The newsroom social media practices on quote the ap said in a memo to staff monday. It plans to review its social media policies now. This significance of the washington. Post writers union expressing solidarity. is that sally busby. The executive editor of a p is going to become the first woman executive editor of the washington post beginning in june. Which brings us to our next guest. Janine zaccaria professor at stanford university who taught emily wilder. You were the washington. Post's jer bureau chief in jerusalem. Is that right about a decade ago. That's correct so. Can you talk about this controversy. So i wanna speak on about it on two levels. I wanna speak. Personally as emily's instructor at stamford what has been like. And then i want to speak in the macro. I is really happening here so personally. I want to say that when. Emily called me to tell me that she had been fired by the. Ap i literally was shocked. I.
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"Arizona republic before the a. p. hired her for an entry level role in phoenix and was two weeks into her new job. When the stanford college republicans began highlighting some of her past tweets their campaign was then amplified by right wing media and politicians including arkansas republican senator. Tom cotton the says it fired wilder for violating its social media policy. The decision came just days after israeli forces bombed the building housing the ap's office. in gaza. ten senior executives stood by the decision to fire. Emily noting in a leaked memo to editorial staff quote. We did not make it lightly referring to the decision the ap's executive editor. Sally busby did not sign the memo. She begins her new job next month as executive editor at the washington post. She's making history as the first woman. Executive editor of the washington post. She told npr she is quote handed over day to day operations at ap. So quote. I was not involved in the decision at all. Meanwhile journalists at the protested. Wilders firing and open letter. Monday writing quote. It is left our colleagues particularly emerging journalists wondering how we treat our own what culture we embrace and what values we truly spouse as a company unquote. For more we go to phoenix arizona to speak with. Emily wilder in her first television broadcast interview. We're also joined by janine sakaria. Who was emily. Wilders journalism professor at stanford university. She's the former jerusalem bureau chief for the washington post. We welcome you both to democracy now emily. Why don't you just take us through what happened to you absolutely well. First of all thank you so much for having me last monday. A group from my alma mater the stanford republicans began to post online past posted. I made on social media in an attempt to expose my history of activism for costing human rights while i was an undergraduate at stanford university and in an attempt to link a p to hamas in the next two days. Ibm's receive a lot of harassment. A lot of Harassment as well as a prominent republicans on the internet Lamb meat including senator. Tom caught in and ben shapiro. I was reassured during this time. By my editors that i would not face repercussions for my past activism in that they just want to support me while i was facing the smear campaign less than forty eight hours after zampa college republicans began to post about me. I was fired reason. Given was a supposes social media violation. Sometime after i joined a p on may third i was not even an explanation. For what social media policy is violated or tweet head violent policy and i still have not received an exclamation and emily when when you originally hired. What were you told by the associated press of what it social media policy was for for its reporters. I was told puertas must not share. Opinions online must not bias in coverage. And you were covering. What were you covering while you were at the. Ap i was hired as a news associate on the west desk which covers the western united states. Fourteen states not united states and my position is not actually reporting position it was an entry level kind of apprenticeship editorial and production apprenticeship in. So i was. I was concerned with assisting coverage on the in the western united states. So it affect. Why would why would these folks at stanford or argue. It seems it seems almost nonsensical. They would go after you in this in this concerted in a campaign like manner. Well there's of all this is this is not my first encounter with this group They during my time at stanford they built a reputation as kind of bullies antagonize. Really any student. They disagreed with it. I was in their crosshairs more than once so they knew my name. I guess they do not forget about me. And i can't say for certain why they did what they did. But perhaps they learned that. I had joined the national news organization at a moment that news organization under public scrutiny and they took it as an opportunity to both smear me and smear the associated press on monday the union representing washington post reporters now. Of course. Emily was working for the but the union representing washington post. Reporters tweeted quote solidarity with the staff of the p. Emily wilder we hope. Management provides swift answers on her termination and clarifies. The newsroom social media practices on quote the a. p. said in a memo to staff monday it plans to review its social media policies now. This significance of the washington post writers union expressing solidarity. Is that sally busby. The executive editor of a p is going to become the first woman executive editor of the washington post beginning in june. Which brings us to our next guest. Janine zaccaria professor at stanford university who taught emily wilder were the washington. Post's jer bureau chief in jerusalem. Is that right about a decade ago. That's correct so. Can you talk about this controversy..
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"At least another twenty five years. Thank you so much. Oh and remember wearing a mask is an act of love wearing to is even better From new york this is democracy now associated data press three calling right wing smear campaign against me attempting to expose history of activism palestinian human rights while i was at stanford university in a broadcast exclusive. We speak to reporter. Emily wilder who was fired by the associated press last week after information campaign led by college republicans at stanford university over her support for palestinian human rights. As a college student. She was fire days after israel bombed the office in gaza then today marks one year since minneapolis police murder. George floyd sparking international protests and a national reckoning over race and policing has changed. The game hasn't changed. The game remains the same. But what has shane's is that you've been debated whole 'nother level on the inside the five twenty five.
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"At least another twenty five years. Thank you so much. Oh and remember wearing a mask is an act of love wearing to is even better From new york this is democracy now associated data press three calling right wing smear campaign against me attempting to expose street of activism palestinian human rights while i was at stanford university in a broadcast exclusive. We speak to reporter. Emily wilder who is fired by the associated press last week after information campaign led by college republicans at stanford university over her support for palestinian human rights. As a college student. She was fire days after israel bombed the office in gaza then today marks one year since minneapolis police murder. George floyd sparking international protests and a national reckoning over race and policing changed. The game hasn't changed. The game remains the same. But what has shane's is that you've been debated whole 'nother level on the inside the five twenty five.
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"At least another twenty five years. Thank you so much. Oh and remember wearing a mask is an act of love wearing to is even better From new york this is democracy now associated data press three calling right wing smear campaign against me attempting to expose history of activism palestinian human rights while i was at stanford university in a broadcast exclusive. We speak to reporter. Emily wilder who was fired by the associated press last week after information campaign led by college republicans at stanford university over her support for palestinian human rights. As a college student. She was fire days after israel bombed the office in gaza then today marks one year since minneapolis police murder. George floyd sparking international protests and a national reckoning over race and policing changed. The game hasn't changed. The game remains the same. But what has shane's is that you've been debated whole 'nother level on the inside the twenty five.
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"Now going to look at two stories about journalism ethics that have had very different outcomes. One is about someone famous and powerful. CNN's Chris Cuomo reportedly advised his brother, governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, on how to respond to allegations of sexual harassment against him, But CNN said the primetime host will not be punished. The other stories about someone who is not famous or powerful. Emily Wilder, a recent hire The Associated Press, who just graduated university says she was fired for her affiliation in college with pro Palestinian groups after right wing media and politicians unearthed old social media posts. The AP denies her allegations, saying she was fired for violating their social media policies while she was working for them. Though the wire service has not specified which of her posts crossed the line. So who is the media? Really for? That's exactly the question Sarah Jones explores in her essay for New York magazine. She's a writer there and she joins me now. Hello. Hi. Thank you for having me. Let's recap these two stories and and start with Chris Cuomo. What was the reporting on that? What did he do? So. The Washington Post reported that behind the scenes, Chris Cuomo had taken part in certain strategy sessions to advise his brother, the governor of New York and how to deal with recent sexual harassment allegations on reportedly referred to the phrase cancel culture and discussing those allegations behind the scenes at the time. On Emily Wilder. What is her story? Emily Wilder is a recent Stanford University graduate who recently finished a stint at the Arizona Republic and started as a news associate of The Associated Press just a couple weeks ago. While she was in college. Emily was, as you noted, involved in some pro Palestinian causes and once referred to Jewish billionaire Sheldon Adelson as a naked mole rats worth noting, Of course, Emily herself is Jewish. Those social media posts were on Earth by the Stanford College Republicans and sort of spread from the Stanford College Republicans, too, right wing media from there and she was fired this week. And you said Cuomo should be fired. Can you explain to me why It's true that Cuomo is it is a commentator is an opinion journalist. You could even say that what he does maybe straddles online with entertainment. But you know, I'm an opinion journalist myself, and I don't always get everything right. But I do believe that the standards ought to be rigorous as rigorous for opinion journalists as they are for any other sort of journalist. And I think Chris Cuomo just objectively failed to meet those standards. And he was also allowed almost nightly to be on CNN together in the early days of the pandemic with his brother, the governor, and there's also been other reporting that Chris Cuomo seemed to have gotten special medical attention during the pandemic s O. I mean, there are a lot of potentially a lot of lines being crossed there. What do you think? It says more broadly, though, about the way journalism rules. You and don't get enforced. I think it shows us that these rules these definitions of objectivity are often very poorly defined. They very wildly from outlet outlet and there doesn't seem to be a universal standard at all. They also seem to be poorly and forest, the very unevenly enforced as a matter of fact. One could argue, though, that Chris Cuomo is being transparent that he does have an opinion, and it's in favor of his brother, who he's related to We also have to think about corruption is while these standards aren't just in place to protect impartiality, aspire his opinions go. They're meant to make sure that somebody isn't using their platform to enrich or two popular is somebody else. Now you can make the argument, of course that is Governor of the State of New York. Andrew Cuomo's already very powerful, but his appearances on Chris Cuomo, his brother's show really did help make him more of a household name to the nation at large, and that's really good for Andrew Cuomo. I'm not convinced that's good for anybody else. That's journalist Sarah Jones from New York magazine. Thank you very much. Thank you. Biden administration has pledged to pump for billion dollars into Central America to address the root causes that are driving immigrants to the U. S border. But that's a tall order. NPR's John Burnett visited hundreds recently and examined one struggling program that's trying to lower the homicide rate and convince people to stay. The letter and AnAnd is is one of the most violent neighborhoods and one of the most violent countries in.
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"To look now at the very different outcomes of two different journalists who breached their company's ethics policies. One is famous and powerful. CNN's Chris Cuomo reportedly advised his brother, governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, on how to respond to allegations of sexual harassment. But CNN said the primetime host will not be punished. The other is not famous, more powerful. Emily Wilder, a recent hire at The Associated Press, who just graduated university was fired for her affiliation in college with pro Palestinian groups after right wing media and politicians unearthed old social media posts. So who is the media? Really? Four? That's the question that Sarah Jones explores in her essay for New York magazine. She's a writer there and she joins me now welcome. Hi. Thank you for having me. Let's recap these two stories and and start with Chris Cuomo. What was the reporting on that? What did he do? So. The Washington Post reported that behind the scenes, Chris Cuomo had taken part in certain strategy sessions to advise his brother, the governor of New York and how to deal with recent sexual harassment allegations on reportedly referred to the phrase cancel culture and discussing those allegations behind the scenes at the time. On Emily Wilder. What is her story? Emily Wilder is a recent Stanford University graduate who recently finished a stint at the Arizona Republic and started as a news associate at The Associated Press. Just a couple weeks ago, while she was in college, Emily was, as you noted, involved in some pro Palestinian causes and Once referred to you Jewish billionaire Sheldon Adelson as a naked mole rats worth noting, Of course, Emily herself is Jewish. Those social media posts were on Earth by the Stanford College Republicans and sort of spread from the Stanford College Republicans, too, right wing media from there. And she was fired this week. And you say Cuomo should be fired. Can you explain to me why It's true that Cuomo is it is a commentator is an opinion journalist. You could even say that what he does maybe straddles online with entertainment. But you know, I'm an opinion journalist myself, and I don't always get everything right. But I do believe that the standards ought to be rigorous as rigorous for opinion journalists as they are for any other sort of journalist. And I think Chris Cuomo just objectively failed to meet those standards. And he was also allowed almost nightly to be on CNN together in the early days of the pandemic with his brother that then governor and there's also been other reporting that Chris Cuomo seemed to have gotten special medical attention during the pandemic s O. I mean, there are a lot of potentially a lot of lines being crossed there. What do you think? It says more broadly, though, about the way journalism rules do and don't get enforced. I think it shows us that these rules these definitions of objectivity are often very poorly defined. They very wildly from outlet outlet and there doesn't seem to be a universal standard at all. He also seemed to be poorly in forest, the very unevenly enforced as a matter of fact. One could argue, though, that Chris Cuomo is being transparent that he does have an opinion, and it's in favor of his brother, who he's related to We also have to think about corruption is while these standards aren't just in place to protect impartiality, aspire his opinions go. They're meant to make sure that somebody isn't using their platform to enrich or two popular is somebody else Now you could make the argument. Of course that is Governor of the State of New York. Andrew Cuomo's already very powerful But his appearances on Chris Cuomo, his brother's show really did help make him more of a household name to the nation at large, And that's really good for Andrew Cuomo. I'm not convinced that's good for anybody else. That's journalist Sarah Jones from New York magazine. Thank you very much. Thank you. Mm hmm. The Biden administration has pledged to pump for billion dollars into Central America to address the root causes that are driving immigrants to the U. S border. But that's a tall order. NPR's John Burnett visited hundreds recently and examined one struggling program that's trying to lower the homicide rate and convince people to stay. Rivera and Hernandez is one of the most violent neighborhoods and one of the most violent countries in the Americas. It's here that a Christian based nonprofit with the high sounding name the association for a more just society is helping to solve unsolved murders. Ah, young Honduran.
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"I've been teaching online at the same time that I'm teaching my kids in the class. So I have a special bond with all of my kids this year, like a bond that I'm probably never gonna have with another class. Just because of the circumstances. Yeah, roomies and zoom eases. They're sometimes called. That's great. I love that. Um, the students, you teacher too young to be vaccinated yet? So what's your reaction to that news? It makes me very conflicted as a teacher because I can be vaccinated. I am vaccinated and my kids don't have that choice right now. And so making masks. Optional is really hard pill to swallow. At this point in the school year, we've made it through, you know, 10 months of masks everything following CDC guidelines very strictly, and then you Now, all of the sudden, it's okay to take them off. And so it's very conflicting. What's been their reaction to the news because I know my daughter. You know, she's in second grade and boy, does she want to take that mask off? Yeah, I've got Mixed reaction in my classroom. I've got kids that are ready to take it off and be done with it. And having this news come two weeks before we can do it is actually kind of making it harder for those kids because they know that end is in sight. And then I've got kids that you know they live in multigenerational homes, and they're still worried about picking it up and transmitting it to their grand parents. And so as much as they want to take it off the in fifth grade there kind of thinking about the bigger picture. I mean, do you find it a little strange that this new policy is basically only for the last few final days left in the school year. And what was the thinking? Do you think behind doing it at that time? So the thinking from Spencer Cox is point of view was that it will allow the kids some closure to the school year that will all be able to see each other spaces and they can finally see you know my smile and reactions to things. I think it's very odd that we're doing it and the end of the school year, so we'll have three school days with the optional masks. And so that's another conflicting thing is that it hasn't been okay to take our masks off the whole year. And we've made it through the challenge. We've done it, and here we are just the last three days of school that suddenly it's going to be okay. So that's another kind of hard thing for the kids to understand of. Why suddenly it's okay. Something that you said at the beginning of this really struck me that this is you'll never have another relationship with your students because of everything you've been through, and I'm wondering what your message will be to them on that last day of class. My message is going to be that they have really good heads on their shoulders. And no matter what life throws no matter what the future holds, they're going to make the best choices because they have learned to really think beyond themselves this year, and that makes me very proud. Stephanie Gonzalez, fifth grade teacher from West Valley City, Utah. Thank you very much. And congratulations on finishing this school year. Yeah, my pleasure. Thank you so much. We're going to look now at the very different outcomes of two different journalists who breached their company's ethics policies. One is famous and powerful. CNN's Chris Cuomo reportedly advised his brother, governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, on how to respond to allegations of sexual harassment. But CNN said the primetime host will not be punished. The other is not famous, more powerful. Emily Wilder, a recent hire at The Associated Press, who just graduated university was fired for her affiliation in college with pro Palestinian groups after right wing media and politicians unearthed old social media posts. So who is the media? Really? Four? That's the question that Sarah Jones explores in her essay for New York magazine. She's a writer there and she joins me now welcome. Hi. Thank you for having me. Let's recap these two stories and and start with Chris Cuomo. What was the reporting on that? What did he do? So. The Washington Post reported that behind the scenes, Chris Cuomo had taken part in certain strategy sessions to advise his brother, the governor of New York and how to deal with recent sexual harassment allegations on reportedly referred to the phrase cancel culture and discussing those allegations behind the scenes at the time. Um, Emily Wilder. What is her story? Emily Wilder is a recent Stanford University graduate who recently finished a stint at the Arizona Republic and started as a news associate of The Associated Press just a couple weeks ago. While she was in college. Emily was, as you noted, involved in some pro Palestinian causes and once referred to Jewish billionaire Sheldon Adelson as a naked mole rats worth noting, Of course, Emily herself is Jewish. Those social media posts were on Earth by the Stanford College Republicans and sort of spread from the Stanford College Republicans, too, right wing media from there and she was fired this week and you said Cuomo should be fired. Can you explain to me why It's true that Cuomo is it is a commentator is an opinion journalist. You could even say that what he does maybe straddles online with entertainment. But you know, I'm an opinion journalist myself, and I don't always get everything right. But I do believe that the standards ought to be rigorous as rigorous for opinion journalists as they are for any other sort of journalist, and I think Chris Cuomo just objectively failed to meet those standards. And he was also allowed almost nightly to be on CNN together in the early days of the pandemic with his brother that then governor and there's also been other reporting that Chris Cuomo seemed to have gotten special medical attention during the pandemic s O. I mean, there are a lot of potentially a lot of lines being crossed there. What do you think? It says more broadly, though, about the way journalism rules do and don't get enforced. I think it shows us that these rules these definitions of objectivity are often very poorly defined. They very wildly from outlet outlet and there doesn't seem to be a universal standard at all. They also seem to be poorly in forest, the very unevenly enforced as a matter of fact. One could argue, though, that Chris Cuomo is being transparent that he does have an opinion, and it's in favor of his brother, who he's related to We also have to think about corruption is well, these standards aren't just in place to protect impartiality. As far as opinions go, they're meant to make sure that somebody isn't using their platform to enrich or two popular is somebody else. Now you can make the argument, of course that is Governor of the state of New York. Andrew Cuomo's already very powerful, but his appearances on Chris Cuomo. His brother's show really did help make him more of a household name to the nation at large, and that's really good for Andrew Cuomo. I'm not convinced that's good for anybody else. That's journalist Sarah Jones from New York magazine. Thank you very much. Thank you. Mm hmm..
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"Texas Street. I've never I've got a couple dogs never been to a dog park. Have you know? It depends on I had a big baby of a dog. So I got beat up. Yeah, but Albert was telling us the dog park is the new tender. Oh, yes, Single man, go to the dog Park because there's a lot of ladies there and you've got your pickings all right on. And if you're ugly, rich guy than that, they love you. The new study that says we need to get a dog park that new studio. S O. Emily Wilder was hired as a reporter for The Associated Press and and they fired her. Okay. Um, apparently in her previous life, she wrote a number of tweets of advocating the Palestinian people. She was clearly an advocate for the Palestinian side and she was reporting on this issue and she got let go is AP said. You've been showing obvious bias, right? I'll let you go. And she couldn't quite figure out why she was like this is a struggle for young journalists. And you know, I'm enter a few of them. It's a struggle. It's like it's like with corporations. How much do you wade into social justice issues? As a journalist, you know, where are where are some of them? Feel compelled like they have to know that they need to hear The Associated Press. Can you have her as a reporter? Well, No, I mean she's not objective. It's a different It's a whole like journalism has gone through such a generational change. And we could talk about that forever. But I mean, you and I were trained a different way. We're trained to different way way. That's right. I guess we gotta leave it there. Talk about how you saved money. Okay? All right. I love that. I know when we got some really good ideas on that one. Cable news. It's hour after hour of people talking.