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"emily upjohn" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"About you? I was quite keen on Tuesday, actually. I think conditions out at keeneland will suitor much better than certainly they did a long shot last time when it was soft ground. And. You go back to that oaks run where she beat Emily Upjohn and Emily Upjohn has belatedly confirmed that that was very good for. And a bit of a retrieval mission mission for Tuesday for me. And I quite liked her at the prices that were available and a picture of my 8 to one. That interests me. I think I just think conditions will be much, much better for you than they have been on the last two steps. Okay, I should clarify now. Kaluki will give you 7s. So maybe ask nicely and see if you can get bigger price because that is the general price at 7s. There is a firm who are going tens. I don't know how much you can get on. But there's a firm going tense. But she's a general 7 to one shot. Now that you mention it, I remember saying in the arc review, I'd be very interested in her for the British cup. The back on a firm surface at kingland, I'd be all over Tuesday. Why did I go offer then? All of a sudden. Maybe it was just being blinded by the fine run from above the curve, but that ground was, she was given a brutal ride on trials day. Brutal. And the ground was completely against her. And the draw wasn't good either. On our day in the pedal opera. So let's roll with Tuesday, shall we? 7s? But if you ask really nicely, it's tense. By the way, it's changed this year. Breeders cup is going to be on, it used to be just exclusive to sky. Now you've take your pick, ITV, sky, racing TV. Book a date with racing TV for me though. Thanks very much. I hope Willoughby zone. That would be cool if he is. We have got one of the goats on the show, by the way. Not only the great Mark Milligan, but we've also got the legend Barry faulkner. Fox X actor Barry is back. Back in the big leagues, baby. So we always do the British cup with Barry and Whitney Naomi. And Naomi Tucker has banged in some big winners and confident bets over the years as well. So Naomi's back. Barry shot a lights out last year. And he's back again. So I'm looking forward to that. That's going to be fun recording that on the Thursday. So yeah, you can take your pick, you'll have it on sky. ITV racing to be no excuses to maybe send the British cup this year. What did you make of the mile? Saw the mile was really, really tricky. Interesting that bayside boy is turning up. Modern games. I think the track will really play to kin Ross strengths. Domestic spending coming back off is long way off. I thought it was interesting as well. Being perfectly nice haven't really made up my mind. On the mail yet, I think it's really, really competitive. And I may not make up my mind until we see the draw because the drawer could be crucial. Got a short run to that first turn. You end up on wide would be very, very difficult. Yeah, I meant to ask you that actually, just how crucial is the drawing? Where do you want to be drawn on a kingland? Yeah. Certainly over a mile on the turf, the track is sort of just over a mile round you start in very close to the first turn. So if you're drawn 13, 14 or whatever, you're going to have to drop in, ride for look, or you're going to end up way, way, wide on that first turn, tricky, very, very tricky to overcome a wide draw in the mile in particular. So if he gets a nice draw, I will be, well, I might take a swing anyway. It's entirely possible that I'm just going to take a right old swing at this race. But I'd be intrigued to know what you think, what do you think of completely last my mind? But you mentioned kin Ross. And how the track will suit. And that was my thinking for pogo. Who might be my favorite horse in training? I love this fellow. The performance of new market was really good last time out. Buick won't be available because he'll be booked for modern games. So I'm not sure I'd like to think Kim Schumacher is going, isn't he? I'd like to think that he will be back on board. He's 25s. Like, if he gets a nice draw, because keenland is such a tight track, this will be his best opportunity to get the mile. He's definitely a 7 for a long horse, but 25s is big, I thought. Yeah, he's similar makeup to Ken Ross, isn't he? That he's in all probability over a trip that will stretch him. But around the tight track such as keenland as long as the ground is decent and looking at the long-range forecasts that doesn't seem any reason to suggest the ground won't be on the good side at the moment. He certainly would have the kind of running style that will keep him up there and out of trouble in a race that could get a little bit messy.
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"I landed on Brad the brief who will come here fresh having had just the two runs this season both those rooms were back in May, beat Glen shield, a previous winner of this race convincingly at hey Doc events stepped up into group two company at the Cora, beating municipal by half a length, but producing a performance that puts him right on the cusp of group one level for me. Now it wouldn't necessarily have been the plan that he would be off from May until now. That would just be crazy, presumably had some kind of setback in the interim. But I'm happy enough that Hugo Palmer wants to come into this race without a preference under the briefs belt. He's going to be fresh he's going to be a lot fresher than some of them in here. And on a small set forward makes him a big player in here. So I wanted to get away from the established horses in here. The ones that are established at this level, the likes of creative force Rowan, naval crown, et cetera and go with a relatively new phrase and brought the brief fit that for me. And I've been hoping that they'll drop ten of them back into sprinting company. Basically for most of the season, I would have loved to have seen her in the Commonwealth cup. I understood why they wanted to go. For the coronation, I would have loved her in the July cup. We get to see that now, and I think 11 to one is too big. She's fast. It wasn't Ryan Moore's finest hour last time out, a parry long sharp, the ground wasn't ideal either, but he pushed her for home way too far out. And I think speed is more of her thing. They've tried it at a mile. Let's see what you can do here. She's had a busy season. And that's the point that I've seen Murphy made as well, but she's tough. She's very classy. And this division is crying out for new blood, so I'm hoping tenebrism. Who has been backed 14 since 11s with kaluki in today, hopefully she'll be able to take advantage. This brings us to the kipco British champions Phillies and mayor steaks. Emily Upjohn in the first time hood is your three to one market leader from maternal pearl, 9 to two, a shada six's Mickey 30 to do that very quickly. The winner on arc weekend at Paris longchamp seila rossa is 7. You're very sweet on Emily Upjohn Mark. Yeah, I am and I can give you the clear reasoning behind that as well. For me, she
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"Just. She just doesn't do it for me if that kind of makes sense. I think she solid isn't she? But she doesn't have any of that sort of wow factor for me. That was exactly the place I was going to use. She's one full group ones in a row and it's had to knock a Philly, isn't it? That's one four group ones in a row, but she's been exceedingly well placed to win those four group ones. I think she can't talk about her tassel. Last August, she's then beaten in cologne and Munich and Miriam and mendecino and they're hardly names that trip off the turn out and last time out at St. Cloud. She beat baratti in a race where several of the leading players underperformed to definition bombed out hurricane lane. Yeah, she can win, but she's not for me as favorite. Now, my way into this race was to look at magical lagoons beating of toy last time. She beat toy by half a lens, didn't she? In the Irish oaks. Now, my feeling is and I'm sure you can tell me if I'm on the right road here or not Emmett. But my feeling is that at bally Doyle, they wouldn't have toy in anywhere near the same bracket as Tuesday. No. Magical lagoon only beat about half a Lin. Were you an I got away to a murder because we both put up Choi for the Irish oaks as a scumbag each way better 25s. When Ryan Moore was declared, but the bookmakers never reacted. Everybody seemed to think that she was going to be on board history or Emily Dickinson. And then there was the farcical situation where the flight was canceled and Emily Upjohn couldn't go. So there was an odds on favors, and she suddenly gets sliced, but we had gotten the 25s. In an anti post, which was given to us, and we kind of got away with murder that day. That was an account closer. Thankfully nothing kaluki, but from certain other firms who weren't exactly pleased with this. And she's gone after 5 to one shot. But if Tuesday was in that race, Tuesday would have given her a proper run until it wouldn't be in her league. Until he has subsequently been beaten in Germany. Yeah, and I think Tuesday would have won the Irish oaks, to be honest. I don't think she was at her best when she took on west over in the Irish Derby. Now, the form of the epsom oaks has taken a few knocks, but you can't argue with what Nash was done subsequently. Now Emily at John has herself has been a little bit disappointing. I still think she's a very good friendly I think she'll prove that in time. Tuesday is an oaks winner and I'd rather have a classic winner coming into this. The group won the Yorkshire oaks than alpinista who's been beating up essentially group two our group three horses in substandard group on races. Yeah, I would a 100% agree with that. I know Rory was a big fan of Al than Easter and put her up on the show many times. He was frustrated when she was pulled out a certain races. There were opportunities. Was she going to go for the coronation last year? And he took her out. I think she was. When Paul driver won, I think that Rory was up to his conquerors under that day. It was a bit annoyed that she came out. He identified a very early on and clearly she is talented. I've had this race in mind for Tuesday for a very long time. I think since she was beaten in the Irish Derby, it's been in my mind that this is the way I still go for. And here we are. I can't quite get away from her. She was given the fact that she wasn't actually officially yes, but she didn't turn three until the oaks, yet she was good enough to place in the 1000 guineas and the Irish 1000 guineas, and then on her birthday windy oaks. And the fact that they supplemented her for the Derby, in what was, in hindsight, a bizarrely run race. Where she just seemed to be very flat westover had complete control of the race. She was out at the back, and when Ryan it really aim at and she didn't pick up. Edinburgh's table was flying. She said 54 days to recover. I think she's a big big player here. She's a huge player. I would tend to believe what I saw at epsom more than what I saw at the car. I think that was a ridiculous Irish Derby. And I think she's going to win. Yeah, I'm done with the completely. And unlike the great voltage, this is a race that age and O'Brien does win and he tends to bring some of his very best Phillies to it. And I would go as far as happy very disappointed to be honest if Tuesday can't be helping us. Yeah. Memories of Tapestry pulling off that massive upset against to grew to back in 2014, but 7th heaven on this race love snowfall. Yeah, he's best. Peeping phone, of course, was a terrific one this way. Alexandrova, his best tend to come here, and I think she is very much the best. There's an argument to be said, she's the best with the exception of Luxembourg. The best three year old middle distance horse at bally Doyle. I think Luxembourg, we didn't do a review. We'll do that with Washington next week. We'll factor in the royal whip, but I actually thought that was a nice comeback. Especially when a brine was warning everybody, he needs this. He badly needs it, and he's going to improve an awful lot from us.
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"Think he'll just be done for a bit of toe to be honest. They don't have anything to lose. They're gone for this. I mean, they may as well roll the Dyson and come on over. And to be fair to them, that's what they said they were going to do last year when he won the arc. So just because it's good to firm ground. I mean, if it would be detrimental to the horse, you're obviously not going to run them. But the fact that they're going to roll the dice and go for it. And he does, he's got form on good. He was second to albanese quick look through his form. Select going good. He's won on good ground at cologne. But this is good to firm. And it's our and it's top class horses against him. I mean, to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if any of these horses won this race. I wouldn't be surprised if Paul driver walks away with this. And it's for that reason. The broom is the one I'm really intrigued by. I take on board the fact that mustard and hurricane lane have been beaten since. To not exactly endorse his royal ascot form. However, that being said, he was very good that day. He took the big step forward as Edna brine sources have been doing from first to second start this season. From the title swords gold cup, a race that has worked out well for boys. To the royal musing. And the king George was mentioned straight away as his target and he comes here and you're getting 20s in a 6 run a race. And I've already laid out the case about westover. I think he's the most likely winner. The price is the issue for me. Emily Upjohn, this wasn't her target. She's in here because she missed a plane, or because the plane was canceled. Mishriff wasn't very good at the start and was being pushed along. At sand down, that was a small field race of 6 runners. You're back into a 6 one race again. It is entirely possible he will take a massive step forward from that because he hadn't run since February. And that's something that needs to be considered as well. He's only beaten the neck at the line by the day, a high class winner. But he was under pressure for ground. That's on my mind. Tokyo tasso, I wouldn't put anybody off. Is he gonna like the ground? That's the question, Paul driver wouldn't put anybody off. So at 20s, I would roll the dice with broom. And hope that he's good enough. I hope that he gets
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"The winner and westover. Has been on the drift evens 5 to four 11 to 8 now with colloquial sportsbook Colin Keane retains the ride after that. Really impressive victory in the Irish Derby. The kura, he will be riding in the race prior to this as well. So 11 to 8 with kaluki sportsbook about westover, Emily Upjohn, who well, I think a lot of people have missed out on holidays at this point. Now she missed out on a mini holiday to the kura because of flight cancellations. 9 to four with Frankie Victoria on board as always forgiven with Chung Austin. Mishra for John teddy Gardner as well with new partner James Doyle after the split from David Egan and the owner of prince fassel. So 130, we then got the arc hero torquato tassa, a 12 to one shot for the Germans, yeah? Piledriver, PJ McDonald on board, I know Martin went to go see Paul driver the other day and he was in flying form 25s and broom. Royal last got here for Edinburgh and run more is a 20 shot. We've only got 6 runners, my friend. And unfortunately, the last two Darby winners miss out, but we do have a very select field. How do you break down the king George 2022? Yeah, it's a very good feel, isn't it? The first thing that I think we should mention is the pace of perceived lack of it because it doesn't look like there's many in here that are going to want to go forward, which me.
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"emily upjohn" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Price with kaluki sportsbook, take it, take as we say, a 130 but rogue who, as Mark points out, gets weight from Maria branwell, as well, given the conditions of the sales race. And good to see so much prize money up for grabs considering the rather controversial no trainers declaring horse for a race in newbury. Story that's going around really supposed to do right, we started at the Cara, we will end at the Cora, the job month Irish oaks, group one, sees the oaks runner up, Tuesday. The oaks runner up, Emily Upjohn, with Frankie Tory on board back. Taking on this time, no Tuesday in her way. A magical lagoon for Shane foley and just Carrington after a terrific performance at the royal meeting. And then three from in the brine starting with Emily Dickinson history and toy, the first two Emily Dickinson history of both 14 to one with cookie sports book, toy is 25 to one and is this selection of run more, which is an interesting story in itself. The supposed first string from is 25s for this race. And jura lines is in there as well with Colin Keane. With godot, let's go with that, shall we? Emily of John. So she fell out of the stalls and basically lost the race at the start. That being said, Tuesday produced a really game performance to hold on and win. Is this where Emily of John picks up a classic and makes it right in the Irish oaks, or is there something like magical lagoon, for example, who will have her in have her licking her wounds again? Well, I still wake up in the dead of night in a cold sweat thinking about that Emily of John books because a lot of my Twitter followers will know. I was on a ten to one. And she fell out of the stalls. And then, frankly, the tour in his infinite wisdom decided to go 80 wider out top and corner and launch his bid fully three and a half furlongs from home and for me. Yeah, Tuesday showed loss of tenacity and lots of battling qualities Emily. She was half an hour the best where I think and I don't, to be honest, I don't think you sent it something I'll ever really get over.
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"emily upjohn" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"One for me because you're quite right. I was big fan of Marge based on her debut win of a believing. She ran really well behind meditate, but it's a really good feeling. I was kind of tied between her and lazy really because obviously I typically do a couple of weeks ago on the pod when she won a new market and I thought she did that in really nice fashion. And wanted to take on Malan C in here because yes, she was second to dramatized at royal ascot last time. Just not entirely sure how much depth there was in behind the despite it being a big field, I preferred the claims of lesue and again, this is similar to the ebert really. I came down on the side of Marge mainly because of the enthusiasm I've had for so far this season but without any great conviction again. She wins. She wins. It's a really interesting race this puts you in. You've got three horses there at the head of the bedding who are very closely, you could see the three of them crossing the line together, but I think that march is going to bless them. I think she's a very, very exciting horse. And in a shocking turn of events, they've patched, they've made up, they've been hugging it out, Frankie, and gosden back together again. It's all going to end horribly and in tears with Gaussian having to pop it yet again. You just wait. You just wait this all ends in tears. Somehow he's going to get inspired me here. That's the end of it. Straight away. So he's going to write Emily Upjohn. And he's on board and spiral to be fair to oshima Murphy. He called this. He said that chiefly park would want Frankie. And Emily Upjohn zona security want him as well. So he's back. He's out of the dark house. And this really should be a case if they go and win and win quite easily. Yeah, I think even if one of me or you was on top of inspiral, she would probably not even I could get this one. She's just, she's different gravy, isn't she to this mob? She's a really, she's just a really, really good Philly. They take him the time with their oven, they weren't pleased with her in the spring. So they skipped the guineas. They've given her all the time that she needed. And I must admit pre royal ascot. I wasn't completely convinced myself that we would see the same Philly. We saw as a two year old, but she delivered and more, didn't she. She was, she was so, so good. At royal ascot and is this the start of a blossoming new relationship between the gaussians and Frankie? This is probably young thing young Frankie the Tory. He's wanted to watch out for I tell you. I still think this ends in tears, but not with this horse. Unless you wanted to be really hypercritical and would say, and listen, I'm not going to put anybody off firing a shot at a 9 to one 11 to one horse in here. Namely, sandrine is a 14 to one shot and then it's 9s after that from prosperous voyage in 11s for two. Starting with premium SEO, but I don't know. Who is dude? Oh my God, a friend of this is this is bonkers. So first of all, apologies to toilet because I should have muted my phone. Professional broadcaster here. Secondly, Mark just told me a story about someone very close to him getting COVID. A very good friend of mine just sent me a message saying he's been taken out with COVID. What the hell is going on? Good news stories from now on on the show, but my goodness. Get well suing Jim, get well soon, my friend. Party hell. It's going through Ireland like wildfire. The big contenders that she took on a royal Alaska. They're not here. She's taking on prosperous voyage and sandrine again, and they have an awful lot of ground to make up to get competitive with her. And then after that, it sources which give her weight. So I don't see it, maybe another day, but not this one. I think she's unbelievably good. And she should go and win. Which brings us to Saturday. Yeah. Yeah. Rolling on through. The supportive stakes victory dance is your current favorite with colloquia two to one. William Buick on board. I say current favorite because it's very intriguing that Alfred Munson is still in this race as we record. 11 to four for 8 O'Brien who's stable is also in red hot form like the constant 76% runners to form percentage. It's 91% for the gardens. So yeah, bellies oil could have a big week and soak at the gardens as well. Line of war for Charlie and Mark Johnston with Kieran felon on board fours and naval power for Charlie appleby is a 6 to one show. That's the current betting for this approach of stakes. How do you see it going my friend? Yeah, we'll get to the house, I fancy. It wasn't in that brief betting show. You gave there actually. We'll get to him. Alfred mullings, Willie won't need to protect his disappointed with him at ascot. And he was very weak in the betting, wasn't he? Bloods on to 11 to not like very weak and he checked out very quickly. So even if he does turn up, I think he's got questions to answer. Naval power of Charlie Applebee's will he run because William Buick's currently, as I'm scrolling through, he's named on victory dance, isn't he at the moment who won a new market novice contest by a head from breasts on while shaping as if he had quite a bit more to come victory dance. Lion of what?
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"He shouldn't have said it. That's the case. Because you're putting pressure on the gazans and you're putting pressure on Frankie. What happened? That's exactly what happened. There was pressure on them as a result of those comments. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't help anybody. And it actually makes it look worse for Frankie. You're not helping your client with that line. No, no, no, precisely. You understand where I'm coming from. With all those facts and the listeners, you can see where I'm coming from. I mean, Emily Upjohn slept in the stores. I think she'd have on the oaks. Lord lord, the blind was tucked in and it happened to me before I haven't talked it out and off. In the gauge and it's taken a second pull to get it off and that's a real nightmare and just eat certain things. They can happen on in classics, cards, and no one notices, but you don't want them to happen in the big races. It doesn't matter who you are. Those sort of things are very frustrating. Very much so. In some ways, there is this line out there, and a viewpoint, which I guess, that, in fact, actually asking Hugo Palmer about it. Just to get his take, because obviously, and very much aware, but I wasn't sure whether or not Hugo was going to lean into it. But he said that Frankie was responsible for two of the best days of his life, obviously we Galileo gold. Obviously, Hugo did an awful lot of work there. But he loves him and he wants to use him as much as he can. But look, the bottom line is most owners like a massive USP is the fact that, you know, you can have one of the best jockeys in the world for me, he's just incredible, he's outstanding. To ride your horses and Hugo and other big trainers will be making full use of that while they can. And at the end of the day, Frankie keeps the right uninspired and wins more group on zoner. Maybe the relationship that was so successful of last few years will rebuild. I mean, that will take time or whatever, but I could see that I could genuinely see that happening if things went right. But let's see. Yeah. You mentioned Frankie keeping the ride on the spiral. Why do you say that? What do you say that the Tom season and tubule park will want to keep him? Yeah, I think he's had a lot of success for them. Over the last couple of years, Ryan obviously has also as have I but yeah, Frankie has been doing it for them for 30 years and I don't think there's the need to really replace them, but I'm guessing I just thought sorry things crossed my mind and I'm obviously not in the situation and just I'm just speaking how I see it, you know? Yeah, it's an interesting viewpoint. I don't disagree with it, but I just wanted you to expand on it. The reason the reason they say that is because there haven't been owners coming out questioning this or saying, well, we still want to use Frankie, like Emily Upjohn's owners, come out and said, well, we trust goslings are the best and we trust them to get the right jockey Bjorn Nicholson doesn't want to mon at all. I mean, that's very clear. I don't think he wanted him on. Even going up to royal ascot and he was fuming. He was seething with what happened in stradivarius. And other owners aren't coming out stepping out of line and going, no, no, no, no. We want Frankie on board. They're trusting the gods to do what's right. And I see that as a very interesting angle in all of this, that no one is putting out to rush to his defense and go, oh, no, we want Frankie still on board. I don't think there's any need to, you know, like there was plenty made of it in the press, and it was the owners that kind of still won Frankie. It won't be an issue. And the owners that would prefer to use someone else, then that's fine as well, you know? And it's fine now, particularly that it's all been made out in the open that he is not going to ride everything. Does that make sense? It does. It does. Do you think you Frankie had come out after the stradivarius ride and said, look, I could have done better there. But what a great horse. Instead, he just talked about what a great horse he was. Last year it was Dylan Brown mcgonagall's fault. A young kid gets bought by one of the greatest of all time. That doesn't help Dylan. I think Dylan just moved on from it was like, whatever. This is the thing jockeys have it's a tough thing with Frankie. Oh, what a legend. And I do that. Hands up here. I have the briefest of cameos in the Detroit documentary on sky. Brief is to come here. Close your eyes for a second. Gone. But still, I'm very honored to do that. I admire Frankie for all that he's done..
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"Ultimately, desert crown is now the flag bearer of the three year olds by Eid is the flag bearer of older horses. Stradivarius is going to be one of the biggest talking points of the entire week at royal Scott. It seems pretty simple that we just sell the sport on our equine talent, yet it almost seems counterproductive to them. They want to look at other ways of promoting the sport. And as Tony McCormick said until export them, thanks to Matty you mentioned in the great British racing Twitter account because I completely forgotten the thing even existed. What are you doing? So just a crown gives you desert crown Tuesday and Emily Upjohn or three horses you can hang your hat on. So use them. Use the resources. Exactly. How concerned were you with the stalls incident for William Buick in the opening race on day one on day two? I told you may have been concussed. Thank God the blow to his head wasn't as severe as it may have looked to our eyes and he was absolutely fine, but yeah, those things, those accidents can happen, or worse next to him, just got a little bit excited. Kind of rare it up. And smashed his head to the side and collided with Williams head and a horse's head I can assure you he's a fair bit heavier than a young man's. And yeah, he was lucky to be to be okay with thank goodness he was. Yeah, this is one of the things about stalls handlers. They're so professional. And they're so good and when you watch racing as much as as much as I do, you get a greater appreciation for them and that goes for every fan of the show as well. We'll understand the incredibly dangerous job they're doing. Just look at hey Doc a few years ago, got between us and all harm. But they tend to get it right. On this occasion, I don't know whether it was just that the horse God overly worked up, but it was a bad situation that could have been a whole lot worse and I don't know how you didn't have a concussion. If that was my head, it would have been popped right open. So fairly to Buick and for being able to go on with the day, but that could have been that could have been really, really dangerous. And that's two incidents then that weren't needed on Derby day. First of all, this one, which you can say things you can get a little bit out of control, but Buick had some presence of mind to be able to grab the souls in the manner that he did. Yeah, yeah, he did. He was thinking quickly. And he managed to step off his horse and let him go. And that was the right thing to do. No doubt in my mind he shouldn't have jumped out of the stores on the horses back. Looked at the starter probably didn't see on William probably didn't show because it all happened so quickly and they were set to jump. I don't think William had the opportunity to say no, no, no, I'm not ready. And that horse didn't cause any issue by going around losing the race. You know, it kind of got its terrible to see and thank God William was fine, but in almost the drama of force chasing that these things, these unpredictable events are happen. And when success comes, how many things you need to go right? That's a really good point. And it also just highlights yet again how dangerous the job of being a jockey is. And yeah. You need to appreciate what you guys put yourselves through. It's bonkers. It's absolutely bonkers. All right, from the oaks, Tuesday, Emily Upjohn, which of the two do you think is a bigger danger or an actual even back in trip? Which of those three do you think is a bigger danger to desert crown over ten or 12 hour longs going forward for the rest of the season? National Ted. Certainly, I was not sure how to judge her from the oaks. She was my fantasy. But she didn't make up any ground in the last word and she wasn't running homes strongly. And that was, that was a touch disappointing, but I think we're seeing her in better life. Back in trip. And of the other Tuesday will be improving. And she's trained by genus. But I genuinely at this over the next coming weeks, I think gambling is this creator of silly. And if desert crown was to meet her, I'm just trying to be where they might meet. I don't think they will, but I think I'm the uptown is the one that's most likely to beat him if they were to meet before September or performance to finish in the matter that she did was just breathtaking. And for desert crown, just to map out his season as you would like to see it unfold now. I think the Irish Derby is an obvious one. Personally, I would love to ride west over in the Irish Derby and desert crowned mysteries and to go for the eclipse. And then to write desert crown and the tread month and then write them in the ice champion and then I would love to ride him in the arc. I would be if dreams could be made this afternoon and someone would hand back my license so that's that would be the dream. Just go to show you what a dream loads ahead for Richard kingsford because one of the best judges in the game is just saying I think he can sweep all these prizes. Thanks very much. But it's Richard's dream and best of luck to him. It's absolutely spectacular to see. Let's not forget native trailer, you know? He's gonna step up to him on the quarter and I suppose he could likely go to the eclipse and I think the track would really suit him, you know, where he'd meet the ground, it's obviously a stiff, my quarter. But I think he'd stay and he lets us he's achieved an awful lot. And Kareem is going to go for the Saint James's palace and I would say try the apple. We're trying to keep them apart as much as he can, you know? Get one piece you can see. Ten for lungs looks like being the right trip for native trail now. Do you think this is any kind of an aspect of pinatubo with him that maybe he was just a brilliant juvenile but not quite as good at three. I think pinatubo was an outstanding juvenile. He wasn't a very big horse though and I would compare him to Charlie's exceptional three year olds this year. Does that make sense? Does it spray just for the horses, you know? It's an interesting thing to say about horse who's finished second in the classic and.
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"Absolutely. I think it is the race that everyone wants to win. And it's at the right time of year. Obviously, we haven't spoken with the Japanese horses that may or may not come, but it's truly it's the one race that I think all the superstars make, you know? We hit the Japanese Derby, the weekend before last, and the owner's colors of broom were carried to victory. Isn't that right? Yeah. And he hasn't committed on a international plan. Tell owner because I'm generally like to go abroad, but the Japanese racing interests firmly international now. And it'll be interesting to see if he can be persuaded. Yeah. Do you think that they would make the decision to come over? Because it is something that your lines talk to us about on talks for a while ago. Slight concern about the British and Irish breeding industry, sleepwalking themselves into trouble and that the Japanese will actually be taken over given the fact that they're investing in style pedigrees and stamina, whereas there's a real fixation on speed in the UK and Ireland. Yeah, maybe but those horses that end up being two miles in Japan, they're running very fast times on quick ground and they're winning their maidens over a mile in the quarter again on very quick ground. They're not. Slow horses. So the breeding thing is probably right on point. When it comes to trying to win our best races and as we saw in Dubai this year, it's only a matter of time. Before they have more success. As well. Deduce is the horse's name we were talking about. So maybe the ark maybe not. And we'll see how the Japanese do when they come to royal Alaska as well. Did you hear from anybody saying to you afterwards that why did they save those fireworks till after racing? Like, why didn't they have the fireworks as the winner is in the enclosure? If you want to do that, was there anyone saying that to you or any anybody in the breeding industry who was left frustrated with what happened? No, I've seen some of the press reports on it. Look at I don't really think there's any need for fireworks. You know, what I don't understand is obviously I've been growing racing quite a bit as a spectator is why there's no live music scattered around different areas of the course. We see it every other sporting event and it creates an atmosphere and really creates a feel good factor that I don't I don't understand why it doesn't cost very much to have a band or a singer or something or a couple of them scattered around the edge of course and I encourage people to spend money in the baths and yeah it just creates a good vibrant atmosphere. It's extraordinary to me. Yeah I would agree with that as well. I don't quite understand why that isn't promoted more why it isn't that there are certain areas at the track that are very much about a big band playing a band, a DJ, whatever and then other areas can be quieter if you want. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I don't mean anywhere near the paid. But like people aren't pitched in one space throughout the day and particularly in those age race cards, you want okay, epsom was incredible and it was a level of racing, but everyone that goes horse racing for the first second time. You want them to go home and say, God, that was great phone and home majestic where those animals and all had a few bets, and I lost 20 cribs, but we had a brilliant day out. You know, and that's the hardest stuff. I think the experience we want people to have, you know? Yeah, Maddy talked to us about her article where she was saying this was a really great opportunity to promote the sport, but also to end the stuffiness and John gosden doesn't want to take any questions about the words that Emily Upjohn garbage with. And that's fine. But when you're in a situation where it's a public get together for breakfast at the stars and it's literally in the racing post anonymous or scallops with them or the Upjohn. Like that's not very satisfactory. It's just not. And secondly, even the price of not just going to the races, but how much it is to buy set alcohol to buy. Food at a race course in the UK. Yeah, it's not cheap. It's not cheap and aren't either, by the way. It costs an absolute mission to go racing at the car. Yeah, I suppose all sporting events seem to be quite expensive, but yeah, I just wonder sometimes how it's expensive to put on the day and create these events. But trying offer people some value because then you get more people in the door, you know? And the last thing you want is a big grandstand with no one in it. That really is on appealing. So trying to get as much people racing and care as much people are interested and appreciating what we've got to offer is the key. Yeah, what you said there is what we've got to offer. That's hugely important because that was the other point Maddie was making. His walking around an underground unless these pictures of beautiful people at royal ascot. No picture for race horse. No mention of bad, but his unbeaten record on the line, and you can see it in person in the queen.
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"He is now the trainer of most classic winners of all time, standing out in his own with 41, interesting side note oshin. The last British classic that sir Michael stat one was in 2010, since that time edelbrock has won 27 classics in the UK. Thank you. Thank you. That's that. It's insane. It's insane to think that that's gone on this time. So Tuesday had the certainly had the pedigree for it. Sister to oaks winner minding. And also it's Irish 1000 guineas winner Empress Josephine and this was her birthday. She was full on the third of June 2019. And she storms through to win. I felt oh, so sorry for Emily Upjohn, though, it went all wrong at the start, and she has run a blinder. Yeah, I mean, Frankie and Eddie came off for the stores. I watched it again last night. She stumbled and is basically ended up being closer to her tale kind of was her with her. And yeah, I mean, I think if you run the race a couple of times, John will be Tuesday, but these things happen in racing and if Tuesday didn't run in the Irish guineas, I suspect she may have nearly been favored for the oaks is not running a new market was very good and she was entitled to improve. We're going a little bit further. Also improve it racing. I know we learned she won the oaks on her birthday so she was quite a late fall. She had imagined she's strengthening and feeling into her frame all the time. So look, yes, I think I'm the uptown should have won. I was guarded for Frankie obviously is a very good friend of mine. Fair play to Ryan. He sat on the inside. He saved ground. He gave the winner the perfect ride. It'd be interesting to see where they go next. You know, the quotes for the accent and stuff like that, obviously I love the dream. I think it's a little bit early to be getting excited for the race. For me, I think does a crown has achieved more than the yolks, for instance and second. I could be very wrong. And the handicapper will obviously have his thoughts tomorrow morning. But yeah, I genuinely felt Emily Upjohn was probably robbed of the race. But through her own misfortune at the start and the fact Frankie had to go around them rather Ryan just rolled up clever race, standing inside, you know? Yeah. She had gotten worked up at York, Emily up John, and that was one of the things that was concerning me in terms of her price. I thought she might have been too keen. And fair play to Frankie and all she jumped their intention wasn't to miss the break like that. When she jumped slowly caught a rush her up and made her keen and she wouldn't have intersected. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. And people saying, oh, messed up. He couldn't do anything different, you know? When she missed the break, basically she must have 5 lens after going a hundred yards. 5 lens last. I mean, what do you do, you know? There's nothing you can do, except by the bullet and just hope that the rice panels are good for you. So I was expecting her to be a little bit worked up, but she wasn't really, but ultimately it did cost her. She does fall asleep and souls or something goes wrong there. So that's where the race is lost. And when you're dealing with horses at these prices, that's why you tend to take them on. Nashville, I think, gives us a very strong look. It's the right horses. Our finishing first second and third. Yes. There's no certainty that Tuesday confirms this form. There's also the possibility that just for your own perspective on this and to get your description of it, the fact that Tuesday was only becoming three on that day, she has missed out on one, two, three, four, 5 months of development and some of her rivals. And yet she's placed in two classics, and now one an oaks. That has to be impressive. Yeah, it's extraordinary. I mean, I ate no brains record in classics as incredible. And his handling of that really is actually this world, considering she's had a few hard races in top class company and classic company. I in her last two stats leading into epsom. And she was able to do that on the big day was, yeah, masterful. Yeah, it was pretty damn impressive. You mentioned the arc and it being one of your favorite races, but that it can be a bit much to be getting overly excited about it now. They have gone and this is from the team of kaluki. Kaluki have gone two to one now about desert crown for the arc. Am I right about that? Maybe it's rather bigger hang on. Now two to one, yes, yes, yes. And then after that you've got Emily Upjohn, it's Tuesday is 16. That's interesting. There's a lot of water to be passed under the bridge between now and then. The French Derby winner vadini as well for crystal sunil. Just to briefly touch on that race as chantilly, so this is Bengal de Monday, that race was yesterday. I was really taken with how you finished the race off. As was I, I don't know if you'll stay a mile and a half story. He's probably Churchill. And I thought he cruise around, he can't turn into the lead, and I loved a ton of fully showed to put away from him. I think modern games may have underperformed a little bit, but he's a good stick. Toddy's keen in front on the ground might have been a touch slow firm, and they went and even pace. So to the eye Christoph source was incredibly impressive, but was there a lot of debt on modern gaze, modern games, I'm not so sure, you know? Yeah, I was disappointed with the likes of Ancient Rome that didn't pick up in the manner that I expected them to. So I would agree with you and the big question mark about whether or not he can actually stay Grand Prix of Paris, maybe next for him. We shall see this. There's a bit of a bit of a gap in terms of the quality. So I'm surprised to Tuesday is this bigger price than she is. Thanks kluki. We'll take that. And Emily Upjohn of course is a may very well turn the form around. Irish oak seems like the sense of a move for both. Sure, yeah, that's the most obvious choice for both of those and it'll be interesting to see what happens there, but I personally feel Emily uptown will be Tuesday if they rape here at the car. Yeah, it's going to be an intriguing one to see just physically has choose their now cut up or is Emily beyond just going to be too much have too much for this is quite a sad PostScript to the coronation cup. Gave lone boroughs these first group on victory, but it has now had surgery on his back and may very well have had his last run, which is a terrible shame because I thought he was very unlucky in Dubai and.
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"Interestingly on the damn side of a pedigree has quite a speedy pedigree. She wouldn't be the sole of horse. You would look at certainly on the disk staff side of a pedigree and say, oh, this Phillies crying out for a mile and a half. But she took her form to a new level when stepped up from a mile to a mile and a quarter last time in the listed company at newmarket beating masha by nearly 5 lengths. And I think she's very much taking after her her dad here. Because we know although frankel himself and frankl's a horse that plenty of people have talked about in the past was, he was never tried beyond ten furlongs. He's imparting a lot of stamina into his progeny. And that obviously hails from his daddy Galileo. And the frankel side of the pedigree tends to supersede everything in these better class horses. And I think with frankel on her side with the moonlight, I think she'll see out this extra two furlongs at epsom despite what the other side of her pedigree is saying. In fact, I think she may even improve for an extra two furlongs. Yeah, I wonder if she's going to be written positively than as well because stamina isn't going to be an issue for her. And it seems as though they think an awful lot of her. So you ride the race, you're not going to write in an oaks to just place. You will with certain horses because you just be like, oh, it'd be great to get a classic black type. But with a horse like her, you're only going to get one shot at this. And that's going to be the viewpoint from the Gaussian team, the O'Brien team, and from Charlie Apollo as well. So tactically, I wonder what Buick does. I'm fascinated by her. She's very high on my shortlist. I decided that I would have a short list of three. And I'll tell you exactly what the short list is. With the moonlight, Nashville, and thoughts of June. That's the short list. And I decided I would on the show come down on who to back on the basis of what you said because we don't talk beforehand. We just say, here's what we'll discuss. In terms of races, but I don't get selections from you beforehand. I don't want that. I want to learn with the audience. What's happening with our lawyer listeners? So I'm delighted that you're putting up with the moonlight, or that you're talking about, or so positively. But I wonder tactically how you feel the race will be run and how you think you will try and we'll try and approach this. I think it's interesting because her two best races in a career so far have been when she's been ridden quite positively. She sat just off the pace at Wolverhampton last September. They then reverted more to hold up tactics at newmarket for her next start and she finished third in terms of actual numbers she ran slightly better than she had done at Wolverhampton, but was still for me a little bit disappointing on the day. They then reverted at newmarket this spring to more positive tactics. She was ridden again just she just tracked the pace. She traveled like the wrath of God that day she really did travel. But then she picked up as well in really good style. And for me, she's just got the profile of a Philly who's better ridden positively and I want to see William Buick make plenty of use of it here. What I don't want them to do as connections is start looking on the damn side of a pedigree and saying, oh, actually the pedigree is suggesting she might be a doubtful stayer. Rider as if you know she's going to get the trip rider as though you absolutely know that that frankel influence is going to be there because I think she's much, much better with a positive ride. Yeah, I agree. I completely agree with you. Todd's of June, I imagine we'll be up at the pace. Given how she ran a Chester, she'll handle the bends and the undulations of epsom. So which has to go down as a massive positive for her, by the way. And Tuesday has to come out of still one. Nashville I think is fascinating. I'm slightly she has the Franco elements as well. I'm slightly concerned more about her pedigree, whether she'd stay and I actually did think fronts would be the bigger thing for her, but I do feel as though she has an awful lot of class. And I actually prefer her to Emily Upjohn. Seriously, I'm quite keen on Nashville. But with the moonlight is ten to one. With kaluki and at the end of the day it comes down to what are you, how much is it to play? How much have I got a paid to play, and if you're getting ten to one, with the moonlight is a very, very attractive proposition. She was also a big raw Philly last year, and she just seems to be the finished product now. She seems as though she's really grown into herself. It was a fine run at newmarket at the end of the season last year. And she just seemed to be transformed over ten for a long last time out. I think the 12 are really similar and ten to one with cookies, very, very attractive. Anything else that shortlist of three that I mentioned Nashville thoughts of June and with the moonlight, was there anything from anything else that stood out for you? Well, you know, I was keen on Tuesday for the Irish 1000 guineas and I thought she ran very well there. I think she's bound to go well again. Here she's got the Galileo influence for her pedigree for all that she might be a bit of a doubtful stayer on the damn side, but you can never discount anything from ballad oil and Ryan Moore in a race of this magnitude. So Tuesday would be another one. I would throw in there. I thought your comments on Nash were interesting. For me, I don't think there's any doubts whatsoever over her pedigree. I think she's got frankel as her sire. She's a half sister to Luke and he who won over a mile and a half. My I'll tell you what my little nagging doubt would be about Nashville. Her two wins have come on good to firm ground or officially good to firm ground as we called it a time form. But a lot of our relatives have been decent with some ease in the ground and I just wonder on an undulating track such as epsom, if the ground does quicken up a bit, whether she'd be quite quick enough to beat one or two of these, but as we're talking at the moment, I think you said the ground at the moment is officially good to software. I think that the forecast is dried up. I don't think we're going to be on fast ground by any stretch of the imagination. I just wonder why John goldston in particular was mentioning the Irish oaks prior to this and it's almost like they're coming here as something of an afterthought. Do you not think? That's a that is a very interesting point. Now, they're not in the same ownership and Holly Doyle will be out all guns blazing to try and win this. Obviously, there was a second favorite. Of course, they will. But it was intriguing that he was saying that. Sorry, my reading of the situation is this and I could be a million miles away here. My reading of the situation is that from Jordan Dawson's perspective, he knows that Nashua is not good enough to beat Emily Upjohn. So he wanted to go to France to maximize his chances of winning both races. But of course, it could be miles off there. You could be spot on. I thought it was intriguing that he was talking about the Irish oaks because surely that's the next destination then for Emily Upjohn or do you think she's so good that you're already thinking about the king George with her? Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? Because you would think that the logical next step should Emily up, John win the oats, would be the Irish oaks, but of course we saw, was it to grudge who went on to the king George? After winning the oaks for this stable, so that they could be looking to supplement enable they throw her in at the last minute,.
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"Used to say, you just go, well, you know, with the base on the basis of new evidence, or with time to consider carefully, I now consider high definition to be a proper group one performer. Yeah, I think that I think they'll be disappointed if he doesn't win this, to be honest. Piledriver is the one they have to be manobo is a fascinating runner and Buick and Applebee can do no wrong. So we'll see how that plays out, but I'll go high definition maneuver reverse forecast and high definition for the win. So there is number one in the patent and you're going manobo as we move on to the oaks. Again, betting with 9 to two high definition, I'd be amazed if he's that price on the day. Emily Upjohn. So this was great for York that there are two classic trials for epsom produced the antibiotics for the oaks and Derby and now she gets put to the test. She turned up a breakfast at the stars. We have no idea who she scalped with, and I'm still uncomfortable with that. I still, how do you feel about that, Mark? Yeah, it's a little bit frustrating, isn't it? That these gallops are often a trade secret. We get to see the horses galloping. We don't know what kind of weeks they carried. We don't know who the galloping with. We don't know what kind of times they've run. In those galaxies, as an aficionado of American racing, American racing is much, much more transparent. When it comes to workouts, we've got workout times each individual horse is timed either from the gate or from a running start. And there's just a lot more transparency in American. I think this is something we could get a lot better at in this country. If a course like epsom and don't get me wrong, I think the breakfast with the stars morning is a tremendous idea. But I think it should almost be packaged as kind of a race meeting in itself, they should tell us who these horses have. The horses are the galloping with. And then just let us form our own opinion as to whether those gallops are worthwhile on. I don't understand what's the need for the secrecy. I don't really get it. I don't get it either. Obviously, it's a different landscape. And it goes back historically in that trainers are training on private land, whereas in America and Hong Kong, they're training on the track. And there's only so many spots in Hong Kong for you to do that. There's only so many spots with tracks in Australia for you to do it. But that means that in the U.S. Hong Kong America, you can go and look at track work. And you and I have spoken about American racing off air. And that is a massive advantage for betters of that sport. The fact remains, though, that if you're going to bring a horse to breakfast with the stars, and gallop that horse, you don't have to tell us how much weight she's carrying, or how much weight the opponent is carrying. But you can at least tell us who the opponent is. Who is she galloping alongside? And to just go, no, I'm not telling you. So has she worked with the second best horse in the yard? The best horse in the yard or the worst horse in the yard. Who is she worked with? Why this cloak and dagger stuff? Like, Willie Mullins, Gordon alias, they Henry bromhead when they're doing their race course gallops before cheltenham. They'll tell you who the horses are. Aidan O'Brien will tell you who the horses are at the Cara when they gallop. On day one after racing, he'll say, oh yeah, this is a lot one will be XYZ. Now, they're not obliged to tell us how much weight is being carried, but at least we get to know. So to just blankly look at you and go, no, we're not telling you. And then Maddie talked about this with me on talks for two on Friday. You then have a picture in the racing post towards Emily Upjohn with anonymous stablemates. It doesn't, it doesn't sit well at all. Anyway, there we go. There's our hot take..
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"And I miss that. But for the brief period of time, when I was younger before my father decided to bugger off, not that I gave a flying flamingo about him, but he did put us through hell. But I'll never forget working with working with x-ray sources and working with children because it gave me an insight into their mentality. And I've said this before on the show as well. I remember reading a book that said, a horses don't have they don't think. They don't have personalities. And I took that book and threw it in the bin. Because I was trying to learn as much as I could about racing. I was reading up on the history of the sport. And somebody recommended this book to me and we're like, you've never been around a horse. Because they very much do, some are absolute. Bastards. Some are tame gentle giants. They're just tame and quiet and lovely and some are in between. There's a fine line between brilliance and madness, but some are right bastards. And they made me do cross country jumping on one such horse and I do remember jumping a stone wall. And just closing my eyes, adding to it. That was for sure it was going to hit this. It was just going to wake up in the hospital. And the horse sailed on over themselves, but it was no thanks to me. I was absolutely useless. But they do have minds. They do have personalities. And if you can get a groom or an assistant trainer or a trainer or an owner to talk about that, then by all means, let's do that. We try and do that on the final furlong. We try and do it on talk sport. I think ITV do a great job of that. They always mention the groom after a race they'll always have a quick word at the groom, and oftentimes you'll see it's emotional. It was amazing seeing the groom of The Kentucky Derby winner. And how emotional he got afterwards and considering the fact that horse wasn't even meant to run in the race and got pitched in at the last second. I mean, that's life-changing for that group. That group will never forget that. For the rest of his life. And world horse racing did a great job on that on social media as well, of promoting that shot of him and the celebrations. That's a way in to promote the sport. That's how you do it. Look at the grandstands of The Kentucky Derby. They were packed full of people. And yeah, a lot of them are going to be just there for the day out, or to say, well, I was at The Kentucky Derby. But you don't know that those fans are going to turn around and then become obsessed with the sport. There's a friend of mine who became obsessed with racing because of dalakhani. And the reason he became obsessed with was crystal sumio. Sue me on's wave to make a man on high Chaparral. Can you come past me? By the way, hi Chaparral, one of my favorite horses of all time, if not my favorite. Along with hurricane fly. I remember being like, you asked, but at the same time being blown away by what dalakhani did. Like phenomenal stuff, incredible race horse. The ride Johnny Morton gave alum Shar to beat him. Amazing. So things like this are what you can hang your hat on. But I don't feel that that's being done properly and it's a great article for Maddie. I strongly recommend if you haven't read it, I recommend that you do. And pop quiz hotshot, seeing as you did watch the. Royal lodge stakes. What was the winning distance for Franco Alaska? Sorry, were you asking me that question? Yeah, we're the only two on the show. I could ask. Listeners right now are going, I think it was 7 legs. What do you think? What was that? The winning distance in the royal lodge for Franco. That your mother said, watch this race, this horse could be a superstar. You're like, yeah, mom. I'll never forget that. She said, Lucy, you better sit down and watch this, right? Yeah, distance. He won by 5 lengths. Ten. Ten. Wow, there you go. She was right, wasn't she? Unbelievable. Yeah, two year old, wasn't it royal lodge at ask but I remember swooping around that bend. Yeah. I was in a pub. The rest is history. I was in a pub in Douglas, having a few pints in the afternoon with some friends. In Driscoll's pub, and I remember frankel's debut and him beating Nathaniel. I shouldn't, because ended up getting blackout drunk that night. It was great fun. Drink responsibly kids. Kids don't forget. Back in my 20s, that's what I love to do. And I vividly remember that and go and those two could be good. Didn't think they'd go on to be as good as they were, but yeah, quite remarkable stuff. It's powerful articles from a strongly recommend that you read it. And unlike Lucy, I think there was more of a hyper the oaks and the Derby a couple of weeks ago. I don't know what the hell is going on. The thing that I'm uncomfortable with is that we had breakfast with the stars. So the epsom gallop. And you end up in a situation where as Maddy talks about and faces his head on. Emily Upjohn does a piece of work at epsom. With an anonymous horse. What the hell? Why can't we be told to that horse was? What is the problem with telling us who that resource is? Because has she done a piece of work with the worst horse in John Gosling's yard? Or is she done a piece of work with the second best horse in the art? I don't know, you don't know, none of us know what was the point of even doing the I get it. It's great to do a gallop at epson because it gives her an education. But why are we not being told who that horse is? It's just for a man who is so.
The Final Furlong Podcast
"emily upjohn" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"By see the out of a bar of the mayor and start high regard very much came through. People were almost talking about, oh, well, we've got the job we winner now and Stone Age, and we've got the oaks winner in blah, blah, blah. Oh wait, York is still to come. And now we have a new favorite for the oaks and a new favorite for the Derby. How impressed were you with Emily Upjohn? I really like the performance. You've got to be impressed, haven't you with a 5 and a half length score there at York of the mile two. And of course it's a decent trial, isn't it that the musidora for the oaks? I think while I like the way she, she traveled. She was very enthusiastic horse, isn't she? And she quick and clear and was in full control from a fairway out. I'm not sure, really, if the bookmakers have got it right. I mean, she's very short in the bet, and isn't she for epson? Obviously, because she's been such a clear and resounding winner of this trial. 5 to four with kaluki, by the way. It's exceptionally tied, isn't it? I think for me, I'm not convinced she'll, I think she'll get a mile and a half, but I'm not convinced she's going to be the oaks winner, to be honest. I think I think she's quite a big Philly. And of course, she's got to navigate away around epsilon. And that would perhaps be a question mark for me. I mean, she's quite, as you say, she's enthusiastic now, she's a keen racer. Will she bid lit up by going round that sort of test of a track? Hopefully they'll be able to take her to epsom for that, the special morning that they have in the build up. And perhaps get her a little run round and see. They're going to do that. So if you're going if you're going to go, yeah, they're going to head to breakfast with the stars with her at epsom. But she, like I said, she's she takes a keen hold and she just she impresses in the clothes and stages. But she's, I think she's going to be a good horse, but I'm not entirely convinced she's going to win. The classic, you know, I think personally from my point of view, I see Tuesday as the most interesting anti post course at the moment. I mean, she's four to one. So for some people, they'll probably even leave it at that price, but she's going to the Irish thousand guineas. She's a sort of late developing horse, which a lot of them in the oaks, recent times. That the winners have been that type of horse. And she's only she's only a baby, isn't she? She's only a she's not even actually a three year old yet. She won't turn three until just before the oaks. Exactly. Yeah, she's a young, she's not, she's a young horse, isn't she? And like say, she's very sort of unfurnished tie. But she's got that classic pedigree being a full sister to minding who, of course, won the classic in 2016. So she's much liked her really. And obviously cache back the format from the guineas in France. Yes. And Tuesday, I thought a little wrong really. Finishing in a finishing effort there, that new market. So yeah, fingers crossed that she can step up. And of course, if she trials well and runs a big race in the Irish 1000 guineas, and she's going to be a huge player, I think. And she still gained in that experience. Of course, she only came into the oaks. Came into the phrase for the oaks for the oaks, sorry. For the guineas at a late stage, didn't she? Adrian was really impressed with how she sort of blossomed, but like I said, she's still a work in progress and I think there's plenty more left under the bonnet with her to go forward with and of course sad and trained 6 of the last ten X winners. So, you know, that's a stat you need up your sleeve and at the anti post prices. I'd be much more taken with her for all the Emily Upjohn was impressive, but she's got a few little doubts, I think. Especially at the price. I agree. I agree. I'm delighted for York that they have produced the oaks favored because York missed out on having a crowd. By a week and it wasn't even a week really, because York is Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. And the Monday, the UK reopened. So that was a real that was a real knee to the nether regions. And of course, we're closed the year before. Now everybody was affected and was hit by COVID, but they're good people who run York, particularly William Derby, who's currently mowing his long listening to this show right now is Melissa and I talk. Hello, William. And it was just for such a great track like that to be to be affected as it was, same for Chester. Same for all of the UK and Irish tracks for that matter. Ireland has gone off a lot longer without crowds, a lot longer. But those meetings are key. They're prime. And you build to them and you do so much promotion, like the promotional work basically starts now for next year. For next year's Dante meeting, the promotional work is already underway. For the ybor festival. So it's great for them that they did that. But Nashua, one of the weekend. And she's a Franco Philly. Would be Holly dolls mount, by the way, that'd be a great story and collusion has made her third favorite for the oaks now. On the back of her one and three length victory, over stay alert. She was the only horse in the race with an oak entry admittedly, but if she did it well enough, she might be more of a ten for a long time. And it might be the John and thee want to keep her apart from Emily of John, so she might go.
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"emily upjohn" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"So that's what I was saying that I can't remember if it's at the mile four or a mile to someone screaming at their smart speaker right now going, how do you not remember that Kennedy? There's a pretty smart mile two mile four group race at the current on Irish kings weekend and I wouldn't be shocked if something emerged from that race to then turn up at the Derby, but we'll see. Maybe it'll be waterville. They might give him another run. But yeah, that's a pretty comprehensive look at thoughts of June and above the curve. She looks like a chaser above the curve. Looks like a gigantic horse. Yeah, but she has the strength to cross her body to carry that height and bone and look maybe I'm making calls here, but I do think she's a good feeling and I think she'll improve plenty from Chester. And if Joseph has a higher opinion of her than I would, I would have confidence in his judgment because he does it overrate and then he's a realist. So if she goes to epsom, it should be going there because he thinks she deserves to be there. So Tuesday having finished third and the 1000 guineas is currently 72 with kaluki who go four to one but Jonathan's Emily Upjohn, life of dreams is 15 to two with the moonlight. Another horse for godolphin. They're both 50 to two, 8 to one. Concert hall whose form was obviously boosted. By tranquil lady, having won it now then for a cement and a brown first time at winter. So concert shows tens, tranquil ladies, the same price above the curve is 12, so they're not taking any chances there and I don't blame Mika luki in spiral who we haven't seen yet. She won't go there. She can't feel surely, but she's in there 12. For those who want to. It's also June has been given a 12 to one price. History, I think, is more of a myler than anything else she wanted to talk about her in a little bit. And toy, who's been highly talked about, but it's probably heading to France. She's 25. Who it's for you, it's probably mostly about Tuesday. And is that correct? Yeah, yeah. If I had the phone call to write, I don't know if you have seen the right to do funny enough. She's actually closely related to magisteria who's in the Dante Tuesday's Dan and magisterial stand magisterial thumb is the DOM of Tuesday's time. So sorry to be confusing there, hoyt tutorial is the damn hostility is the mother of magisterial on horsey tortilla is the mother of the country. So there are obviously closely related and when the amazingness they were both learning up at the same weekend. But anyway, she's my standard for the oaks and I know that I should stay and she should improve a tongue from the guineas bolt with experience and grow up in distance. It's also a quite remarkable if she managed to just to win the Irish 1000 guineas never mind the oaks because that means she'll be following in the footsteps of her full sister Empress Josephine last year and minding. Minding obviously got beaten the Irish Kennedy project. I apologize. Yeah. So she won the 1000 guineas gets beaten in the Irish 1000 games, but then goes on wins the oaks. Yeah, yeah, so look we all remember how special minding was. But the oaks picture is the very open and not fairly coming into the races that I can talk in Australia and I think let it be right back next few weeks and we can stack it there. Absolutely. And we will bring you live coverage of the Musa Dora with me presenting for Lee this week. On talk sport two, along with the Dante meeting itself at York every major race live on talks for two, some big interviews as well. We'll switch it up and talk about the tilt plus Chester cup. This was the culmination of 5 runners 5 owners. I think he was entered in the orman sticks as well, but they elected to go down the handicap route with them. And boy was that a great choice. Aiden doesn't have a whole lot missing from his CV having won the French Derby for the first time last year with saint mark's basilica. This was missing from his CV, no longer a no brain now has the Chester cup on his CV as well with Cleveland, who looks set to go on to bigger things. Yeah, maybe he got a smashing ride. I remember his mother. She used to hold her head quite hard. But this fellow is very different and for a candle. He seems to be quite broad and carries a lot of condition. Camera was the most beautiful specimen. If anyone wants to see what a resource should look like, it was him. He clearly improved for this step up in trip. He got a perfect ride, he enjoyed that little bit of juice in the ground as I think his mother used to and I taught Andrew balding's training performance in the second quarter and he had a nasty injury and he brought him back slowly and he had a couple of disappointing ones on the all weather attack that was just phenomenal really and I just got it from my good friend rob Robbie that he couldn't win a chess club. But it could happen one day. All I can say is Ryan was fantastic on this horse. The trainer was incredibly clever stepping him up and checked by a mile and taking advantage of his handicap mark and there we go. It was just, it was just very good place. It really was. They've talked about the hard work. It's definitely going to royal ascot. It's a question whether or not.